I've always felt it was impossible for anyone to see it as white and gold. I understand the black being gold because of certain lighting, but there is no way in hell that that shade of blue in perceived as white! It makes zero sense.
xombae ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 00:37:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could say the exact same thing, but opposite. That shit is so very clearly white to me I just can't see how anyone can see it differently. And I cannot see the gold as black. I just can't.
im freaking out because i was in the black and blue army back in the day, now i can only see white and gold and cant get my brain back to the way i used to see it.
I had they opposite problem, when the whole ordeal first started I never actually looked at the dress until it was being talked about everywhere. I remember the original post but I guess I never clicked through. Anyway, the first time I finally looked, about a week into the meme, it was white and gold and stayed that way for a good week. Then, I looked for probably my 4th or 5th time and while examining the photo, it's background, etc, it flipped, like a switch, to blue and black. It's never gone back and the more I look the more I'm convinced it never will.
I see it as black and blue, but sometimes I see it as white and gold in the first moment of looking at it. So I've seen what you're seeing, but then my brain changes it.
This just happened to me for the first time. Strange how our brains work!
baddox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:24 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, you can say that, but both of us can open the image in an image editor and verify that, indeed, it's blue. Also, the actual dress is black and blue. The ability to say something is not a very strong argument.
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baddox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually only talking about the blue vs. yellow, and while the blue is fairly desaturated, it's still pretty unambiguously blue in those photoshop screenshots, particularly if the choice is between blue or yellow.
The black bands are much more ambiguous, and I wouldn't have any qualms with anyone describing it as a blue and gold dress.
If I saw it as white and gold I would understand how people can see it as black and blue because literally the colors are actually black and blue. I think the lighting just messes with some people's brains to make it look like white and gold. What happens when you cover the background with your fingers so you only see the dress? Is it black and blue now?
xombae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you can really say how you think you'd see it unless you actually see it that way.
And that's the thing, when I cover up the background and just leave a small bit of the dress exposed, I still see gold and white.
I saw it in white and gold the first time and not even 20 minutes later it was black and blue. Now I see gold and black, no idea what this black magic is.
It's weird, if I squint I can clearly see it as black and blue, as soon as I focus on it, bam white and gold. Complete brain fuckery and I don't understand why.
Depends on the screen you're viewing on. On my pro level calibrated monitor used for graphics work - always blue and black. On my way saturated, contrasty phone, always gold and white. I went with blue and black, and just assumed (correctly) that my phone screen was nowhere near properly calibration.
skftw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, that's whats doing it. I have two different monitors side by side. If i move the window so it's halfway on each, one is very clearly blue/black and the other side is equally clearly white/gold. The colors are close enough with the weird lighting that the difference between monitors is enough to make it change in my head.
I also noticed that even on the "white/gold" monitor it changes to blue/black if i view it in my peripheral vision instead of staring right at it. How interesting.
Seeing those โ ultimately wrong โ colours in the picture is a sign of extra activity in the parts of the brain that deal with decision making and attention, according to the authors of a new study that claims the dress could be a huge new step on the way to understanding how brains understand what we see.
Don't be upset! One day you might reach the heights of gold and white brain capacity... if only you believe in courage, and kindness, and occasionally, just a little bit of magic.
halfar ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:49:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you mean one day we'll be smart enough to not even tell blue from white?
No shit there's more brain activity.
Normal brain: It's a black and blue dress.
Fucky brain: SHIT IDK IT KINDA LOOKS LIKE A WEIRD SHADE OF GOLD, BUT SHIT WAIT IDK MAYBE ITS NOT GOLD BUT LIKE ITS KINDA YELLOWISH IN THAT LIGHTING MAYBE IDK. THE OTHER PART IS WHITE MAYBE? HMM SHIT ITS KINDA OFF MAYBE EGGSHELL WHITE AH SHIT LEMME CHECK WITH LEFT BRAIN AYE YO LEFT BRAIN WHATCHU THINKIN?
This is like saying people who don't get an answer right first time are smarter than those who got it straight away, because they had to work more to get to the answer.
I see how someone might see it as white and gold โ but the rest of the photo is overexposed! If it's a lighting issue, you should look at the ambient lighting, yeah?
I see gold and I know it is gold. You are all trying to make me think I'm crazy. You sound just like my shrink. Take the pills you will start to see things our way.
Mostly commonly being partially colorblind is exactly how it works.
The most common colorblindness is only being unable to tell red and green apart. Only seeing Monochrome is actually one of the most rare colorblindness types.
There's also degrees. For example, within a given set of colors, it's possible to have complete colorblindness (complete inability to see the colors in question), or partial where you lose contrast and ability to differentiate shades of those colors, but you can still somewhat see them. I'm in the latter boat - I have moderate red/green colorblindness, and minor blue/yellow.
Specifically, I have minor Tritanomaly (tied to the blue cones), and moderate Deuteranomaly (tied to the green cones). The latter is actually the most common form of color blindness.
The thing is, if it was gold and white and was on a shadow it'd look the exact same, some people's brains decided the dress must be on a shadow others decided it must be on a light
This is making me laugh at this point. You are basically saying, "how do you see x when it clearly isn't x".
That's the whole argument! You see black and blue which necessities that the dress must be in full light, while white gold see the foreground as being shaded.
Examples where foreground is shaded and background is bright? Someone standing under an umbrella at the beach.
Black blue see the light area as light reflection, white gold see that area as the normal color, while the darker gold area would be perceived as the same gold but more shaded.
Personally, my mind likes to see the foreground as shaded by umbrella, while the background looks like a brightly washed out beach scene.
But if you bring the picture into paint and sample the areas that are "black" and "blue" you get white and gold? It doesn't help your eyesight that the dress is blu irl when the actual colors in the actual picture are gold and blue.
In the picture it is clearly gold and white in dark lighting:
I feel so betrayed. I just can't see it as anything other than white and gold.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like a white and gold dress in a lot of shadow, so the white balance is off. I always thought it was black and blue but I can see how people see it as the other.
I just assumed it was a black and blue dress under bright lights because the background looks bright as hell. And it looks like it's in a department store, which are always well lit.
Anyone that sees it as yellow thinks, for some strange reason, the dress is in a shadow. In the middle of a bright-ass store.
I just got the black and blue after years! Try staring at the bright spot on the right. Your peripheral vision of the dress will change from white and gold to black and blue.
My mind is actually blown right now.
Gned11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:11 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't quite work for me. I started looking at this from the top and followed the images down, white and gold... white and gold... woman wearing black and blue dress. Huh.
Worked back the way, peeping through a gap in my hands and 'forcing' each step to remain blue and black. Eventually I got up to the original image and managed to get it to 'flip'.
It's still much easier to see as white and gold, but these BB peons aren't crazy.
Ok. Holy shitballs. I've always seen the dress as white and gold. When I clicked the first wikipedia article in this thread... there it was in all its white and gold glory. Then I click this new york times article and there is the same picture but now the dress is black and blue to me. And fucking hell if I didn't go back to the wikipedia article and suddenly the dress was black and blue. What the hell brain?!
I don't think there is only one version of the dress. I think it might exist in different colors. Also, the original photo is manipulated and does not show the true colors of the dress.
It changes for me depending on how much I focus on the glare. Seems like there is some kind of brain post-processing going on to try and correct for it.
WeRip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:13 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Either use an image editor and zoom way in, or use your hand to cover all but a small portion of the dress.. make sure to specifically block out the bright background.
I see it as gold and a light blue as well. I have to swing my monitor to an extreme angle to make it look blue and black.
I've even done a color analysis on this monitor using photoshop, and it very definitively fell in the gold/yellow part of the spectrum.
I get that people can see it differently, but if it is black and blue, why do photo tools that are just looking at pixel RGB values showing it as gold?
Put it in an editor and colour-pick the colours. Most see it as a browny-yellow (... gold, I guess) and light blue because that's what it actually is (in the image).
So I'm happy that I can see the image for what it is rather than putting some assumed context on it.
Of course all of this was probably said 2 years ago.
This is what annoyed me about how long this thing went on for. You can color pick this image and isolate the colors to get a factual answer easily.
People can have all the fun they want jerking off about brain interpretations but the fact is that due to whatever lighting conditions the photo was taken in, the dress colors are light blue and a dull gold.
Now if you use a color matching tool to compare these results to both interpretations, you arrive at a 58% averaged match for Black/Blue and a 76% match for White/Gold.
OP's image demonstrates how the dress illusion works under ideal and equalized circumstances, but in the real photo, the dress image favored the White/Gold interpretation by 18% (regardless of the actual color of the dress).
This is exactly how I approached it. Want to get crazy over what color it is? Ok, let's open it in photoshop and use the color dropper to get the exact RGB value. Hey look at that, it's a light blue, and gold. And no, you can't debate that, those are the actual colors of the image, visual illusion doesn't apply.
People got freaking vicious regarding it.
To my eyes it still looks like gold and a light blue.
Nothing pictured in real life is really going to look white under the color dropper in photoshop. shadows and lighting and light reflection is always going skew it.
Yea if people argued it was a dull gold and light blue instead of arguing it is gold and white, it would be less of a controversy.
The entire problem was the apparent color is the result of the actual color + light color.
What you are measuring in Photoshop is the apparent color. What most people argued about is the actual color.
And for the actual color being gold and white the light would have to have a blueish hue.fir the actual color to be a black and dark blue tone the light would have to have a yellow hue.
Which is more common or more likely? A yellow hue light or a blue hue light?
I'm curious of the statistics of photographers and what color they believe it is. To me it looks blue and black because I can tell it's under a warm lighting that most stores are fond of, and the photo is incorrectly color balanced and exposed. To me I can tell these things due to the contrast of the dress and the background so I then qualify the off color of the dress with the context of the background.
So people's brains that see it white and gold take the image for face value while their brains fail to interpret and infer the real color. Their brains are simpler, dumber in a way. Got it.
No, you are seeing what the camera saw. Which is not as good as what human eyes can see. The only reason the illusion exists is because of how poor cameras actually are at seeing full dynamic range.
What I wanna know is how do you live in a world where you don't know the colliquial color for 'gold'? It doesnt neccesarily look anything like actual gold but thats exactly what that "brownish yellow" is.
It's strange because back when I saw this the first time it was white and gold. Could NOT see it any other way until after like a week it just clicked, and then I couldn't go back to seeing it as white and gold.
Now after a 1 yr intermission it's back to white and gold again and I cannot get it to be black and blue. Ah well
I was able to see the black/blue by staring at the bright part to the right of it for a while. It's weird, was clearly white/gold, now I'm seeing black/blue.
But that's the point. The dress may be black but the photo has no black anywhere. If you copy the image into paint and query the colours you'll see the dress in the image is clearly a pale blue and gold.
Are you able to interpret different objects existing in different color contexts? For example, if you were wearing a white shirt and then stepped into a red photo development room, would you describe yourself as wearing a red shirt now?
Or in this picture, would you say the lemon is yellow, or that the lemon is white, yellow and dark orange? Obviously both are true, but there's a difference between describing the lemon in the image and the actual lemon itself.
That's not the context of this situation tho, it's more like if you were wearing a white shirt in a red photo development room and then you show a picture of the situation to another person, if they answer that the shirt is red, then I think that would be the right answer in their case. Everyone knows that the actual dress is black and blue, the photo? the colors (as in if you pick them in photoshop) are the ones that you can see in the picture, that was the experiment.
The picture looks like it was overexposed and taken with a shitty camera. That's the reason the black looks so much like gold. It's obvious from the picture that the camera was of poor quality.
I see white and gold because to me it looks like it's in front of a window, and the camera got overwhelmed by the bright background and underexposed the foreground. I've never been able to see blue and black.
And my color vision as excellent, before you ask. Give me a color vision test, I will fucking destroy it.
The real dress was black and blue but the photo of it was washed out and if you queried the colours with paint was actually whitish pale blue and muddy-gold.
What color do you see the dress as on the left side of the right-hand image? Please note that the color of the "black" portions of the dress on the right side of the left dress is not BLACK. The "overlying" yellow tint makes that color seem black in context but it is not if you see that section of the image in isolation. Likewise the far right is not "white" but appears as a white cloth would with reflected blue light.
This image also does a good job of 'proving' that It's a black and blue dress in an overly sunny and yellow environment (like the yellow filter he puts on it in the animation) not a white and gold dress in a dark and blue environment. Seeing the context of the background in that image, i cannot comprehend thinking it was gold and white.
Copy the image of the original meme dress from that linked wikipedia page into paint and use the eye dropper to query the colours. You'll see that it's pale blue and a muddy brown. The original dress may be black and blue in general lighting conditions but the image of it that was circulating all around the internet isn't.
Well I see it as white and gold, and I brought the image into Photoshop and actually sampled the colors. The colors are a very light blue and a dark gold. So I am seeing exactly the colors that the picture is showing.
I understand that the dress is not actually white and gold, but I can't help the fact that I am seeing the colors that are actually in the picture.
untide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:48 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I started seeing it as gold and white....but now I see it black and blue. I read the article first so I knew it was supposed to be black and blue but still couldn't see it until I enlarged the image. Now all I can see is black and blue.
I feel like someone must have zero sense of the intense background lighting being the cause of the color washing on the dress and assume that everything in the photo is exactly like it would appear in real life, in order to see it as gold and white. Even then, looking at the dress colors without context, it looks even more blue and black... So uh.. idk
I've found that it seems to be (sometimes) on how much someone uses their phone and what brightness they keep it on. Low, it's blue black. Way up, it's white/gold
Look at the dress photo at the same time as you watch the gif above - both on the same screen at the same time. The dress literally switched from blue and black to gold and white, and now I can't get it to switch back. My mind is blown.
I legitimately thought I was being fooled by some really slow looping gif somehow disguised as an image. Kept changing when I'd visit another page. Eventually I just sat and watched it and the damn thing just suddenly flipped.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:53 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I first saw this I could only see white and gold. Then somehow my perception of the colors changed and I saw blue and black. I've been trying to change my perception again but I guess once you go blue and black you can't go back.
My wife and I have literally been having this argument about the color of our cars. Hers is officially silver, but I can see a blue tint to it. Mine is officially charcoal but, again, I see blue in it.
Asking our friends and neighbors about it, it seems like about one in five see the blue - without my suggesting it - but the rest don't see it even if I tell them the cars are blue tinted.
cryo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:18 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not literally. Grab a color picker. The "white/blue" is pretty white, although with more blue in it. The "gold/black" is golden with red, green and less blue.
One study suggests it's based on your sleep pattern. If you're a night owl you see it as gold. If morning person you see it blue. (I feel this is based on if you stay up late or sleep early.
That's because your brain is misinterpreting the context of the image. It looks like the picture is taken in a heavy shadow to you so you see white/gold. Once you realize that it's actually saturated in bright light, it'll look black/blue.
halfar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:35 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how on earth are people seeing heavy shadow, though??
It looks like the lighting is coming from the direction the camera is facing, rather than from behind the camera. I know that's what makes me see it that way, but my brain refuses to see it the opposite way. Not to mention that my brain also refuses to accept that the color black can reflect THAT much light, that it makes it look gold. I don't get it.
It looks like the picture is taken in a heavy shadow to you so you see white/gold.
No, it's appears white/gold because it actually is whitish-grey-blue and a muddy-gold. There's no black or dark blue in it anywhere. Copy the photo from the linked wikipedia page to paint and query its colours with the eyedropper tool.
I'm perfectly aware of the actual color the photograph is presenting. We're talking about what it looks like with varying perceived context.
Your whole argument is going against you anyway. We're talking about whether it's white or blue and you say it's whitish blue, the literal middle ground between white and blue. Muddy-gold (it's really more brown than gold) is basically half way to black too.
Just look how I can turn what you said in the opposite direction:
No, it's appears blue/black because it actually is whitish-grey-blue and a muddy-gold brown. There's no gold or white in it anywhere.
I don't think you understand anything of what I'm saying. The original meme dress was black/blue in normal lighting but if you query the colours of the photo they are very close to 'white' and 'gold' and very far from 'black' and 'blue'. Different colours have names and put simply there is a right and wrong answer to what colour the dress is in the photo. What I'm saying is that calling it black/blue is more wrong than calling it white/gold.
If you actually query the colours in paint, the 'whitish-grey-blue' is extremely low saturation. And the 'muddy-gold/brown' colour is of sufficiently high luminosity that it isn't even remotely appropriate to call it 'black'.
Yes... I understand that. I remember when it all first went viral.
What you're not understanding is that people can see that the dress was photographed in improper lighting and their brains automatically color correct for that. I'm not arguing over the actual color of the pixels on the photograph, I'm arguing that the perceived color of the dress will change because the perceived context of the rest of the photo will vary between people. By querying the colors in paint, you're removing the context of the rest of the photo that makes the illusion work.
I'm not arguing over the actual color of the pixels on the photograph, I'm arguing that the perceived color of the dress will change because the perceived context of the rest of the photo will vary between people. By querying the colors in paint, you're removing the context of the rest of the photo that makes the illusion work.
Facepalm
I can't believe you still don't understand. I AM arguing over the actual colours of the dress. Your original reply to a person seeing it as 'white' and 'gold' claimed that they were 'misinterpreting' the image. I'm explaining to you that they aren't misinterpreting anything, they're seeing what's really there and your black/blue brain is the one doing the misinterpreting.
Jesus fuck. I KNOW. I myself see it as white/gold.
I'm talking about WHY THE ILLUSION WORKS. Illusions don't give a fuck about what the actual color is, why would I be talking about the actual colors when I'm talking about an illusion?
Odusei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell me that it's in bright light, and I can keep repeating that out loud to myself while looking at the image, but my eyes don't seem to receive that message.
It's not your eyes that need to receive the message, but rather the subconscious part of your brain that deals with color perception. You can't really "tell" it what is right, only wait for it to realize it for itself.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:26:13 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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halfar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:08:52 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i get the blue, and the black, an the gold, but i have absolutely zero idea whatsoever how anybody is seeing the blue as white
Imagine that it's under very dim, bluish light, washed out by the bright light behind it. What looks like a pale blue becomes white under those conditions.
On the other hand, imagine that it's under very bright, yellowish light, like the background. Then what looks like a pale blue is actually a rich, darker blue. (This is what is actually pictured, but the cues in the image aren't definitive.)
OR, you can just look at the provided gif, and view the dress on the right, which is clearly white and gold under dim lighting conditions.
halfar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The gif and the dress aren't the same. I can see and clearly identify the illusion in the gif. Not at all with the dress.
The gif uses the same colors as the original image. That's the point of it. If you're a Black and Bluer and you want to see what those crazy White and Golders see, just look right. Vice versa, just look left.
Isord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is the dress is very clearly not in dim lighting based on context so it's weird to me that anybody interpreted it as gold and white.
What context? You see a dress that is in the foreground and you see the background illuminated by bright light. The foreground isn't necessarily lit the same as the background.
For example. This is a white chair in dim light with bright light illuminating the background. If the foreground lighting were a bit more uniform, and the screen weren't there, it could also be interpreted as a brown chair in the same direct sunlight as the background.
Isord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:53 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The left side and right side have the same lighting, and the dress has the same color temperature as the background which makes it appear to be equally washed out.
only those with hyperactive imaginations can image something that isn't then convince themselves it is the truth even when they have no evidence.
for example: "oh man I remember I saw that shadow that one time and everything had a strange blue purple tint to it because the sun's angle and shit. O man that is totally what is happening right now, but fuck what color is it originally? o well it's obviously white because that would be the only thing that makes sense if that shadow that one time I saw was blueish. Yup, totes got dis solved!"
That's funny, because having just heard of this, I'm convinced that people who say they see it as white and gold are just trying unsuccessfully to gaslight. Even seeing OP it's really hard for me to fathom how you could see it as anything other than blue/black.
Real talk, not gas lighting and find it very confusing since the reality is that it is black and blue (looking at the original dress it is clearly black and blue), but I perceive that photo as white and gold. I have no illusions of being right, merely questions at why I know that I'm wrong but still cannot perceive it, if that makes sense.
The upper left corner looks blueish white. I actually just had an interesting realization though, I checked this under different lighting conditions in my room. Under hard lighting with white fluorescent bulbs I can definitely see it as blue and black very strongly. I can also see it as white and gold though if try and concentrate.
Under soft warm fluorescent lighting (yellowish light bounced off a white wall) the dress is white and gold with no easy way for me to perceive it as blue and black. So I have a repeatable way to currently alter my perception of it. The result was so surprising I honestly thought to check if someone had replaced the images on the wiki so I verified the effect with other images from different sources and got the same result.
If you're talking about the original meme dress in the linked wikipedia page then copy it to paint and have a look at it with the eye dropper tool. It's actually a whitish pale blue and a muddy gold colour. The real dress in different lighting conditions may appear black and blue but the photo definitely isn't.
Nope. I tried. Used the eye-dropper; covered the sides of the picture so only the dress was visible; sought my SO's opinion (she's a gold-and-whiter). I cannot see how that blue is supposed to be white. I can make out how the black could appear as gold, though it seems entirely too obvious from context that it's black, but there's absolutely no way that that blue could be construed as white. Humans are weird.
Stop fucking with me. There is no way in hell anyone can confuse that very obviously blue colour as being white. Look at the white-space surrounding the photo (the wikipedia background colour). Does that look like the same colour to you? It is 110% blue and black.
No one is saying the actual color in the image is white. It's clearly blue, and that can be easily measured objectively.
What's happening is that people are arguing over whether the color in the picture means the dress which the picture was taken of is black/blue or gold/white.
The confusion is because either situation is actually plausible depending on whether the dress is being depicted in full sunlight, or in full shade. It is not clear from the context or other cues in the picture which of the following two cases is actually true:
The dress is illuminated by the same sunlight that is behind the dress in the picture. Which would mean it is lightened and washed out in the photograph, and what appears "blue" is actually a darker, less washed out blue in reality. Likewise, the "gold"-like color is actually just a satiny black that is partially reflecting the sun.
The dress is pictured in the shade, and the bright sunlight that is behind it is NOT illuminating the dress, but instead triggering the camera to darken the exposure to compensate. This would take a nice bright white/gold dress and darken it, causing it to appear like a dull gold and light blueish color.
We know for a fact that situation #1 is true, but the visual parts of the human brain don't have access to that fact. They have to make their own judgement based on what they see in the picture, and it turns out that some people's visual process judges the dress as being in the shade. Their brain interprets the dress as white/gold as a result.
I cannot even see a shade of blue. My eyes see something that looks like shiny white vinyl. I can't even force myself to perceive blue anywhere in the picture. It's so strange knowing it's my eyes that are wrong.
Edit: Holy shit! I just held this picture up against my leg in blue jeans, and now I see it blue and black.
Pure eyeball fuckery going on here.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:46:15 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how anyone could think it's gold and white
The best way to force it is to completely close one eye and neaaaaaaaarly close the other. You'll see the blue/black just barely. Otherwise I also just see gold/white.
I've only ever seen it as black in blue but is the white you see like a clean white. Is it about the same as the white on the Wikipedia page or is it a dirty white?
BZLuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:13 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit dude, i never saw it black and blue either until now
What i did was look up the wikipedia article linked above asking myself how people even could see it a different color because it was just so clearly white and gold
UNTIL IT WASN'T. I looked at the picture with the 3 versions for like 30 seconds, opened the wikipedia article again and it was just black and blue....to a point where i feel like that wikipedia article is a troll from the 50/50 subreddit
I'm the same. Every time I see it, it looks gold and white to me.
It's also an ugly dress that I'd never look at twice without the hoopla surrounding its color.
junkk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try covering up all but a small, dark part of the dress. I got the bottom left corner to look blue and black, and then the whole thing was blue and black for a second.
My GF and my neighbor also see it gold and white. I saw it blue and black, then later that night it switched to white and gold on me... I revisit the picture now and again to see what mood it's in because I see it in both.
I see it in gold and white only. But since people said it was black and blue I decided to see what the colors were in Photoshop. Guess what. It's 100% not black and blue. The white is not paper white though. It's actually too dark to be called white. But it's not blue either!
Maybe. I don't know. At least the original photo is very edited. Which makes the true colors completely unimportant. It could be purple for all I care. The photo is edited into brown/grey. That's just a fact. You can look up the colors in Photoshop. There is no blue or black there. People seeing black and blue are seeing something that is not factual. It's their mind playing a trick on them. Unless you are saying that Photoshop is lying to us.
You're missing the point. When people say they see a blue or white dress what they mean is that they are interpreting the picture one of two ways: a blue/black dress with blown out lighting or a white/gold dress in a shadow. The dress is actually blue and black. If anyone sees the dress as white/gold that just means their brain is misinterpreting the scene (people keep saying it's a white/gold dress in the shade). In reality, it's just a blue/black dress with the brightness fucked up in the image.
Take a look at this guy sitting in the shade. Would you say he's wearing a white (or possibly light grey) shirt or would you say it's the color of blue jeans (blue-grey-ish)? If you copy the picture in photoshop or paint and use the eyedropper tool to select a color on his shirt you will find the blue-grey denim color. Because you can see he's sitting in the shade, you know that will affect how you see the color of his shirt and so your brain will try and figure out what color his shirt would really be.
But I see that his shirt is not white on the photo. It's not white. But then again, I don't know how it is IRL. I think it's white because I think the shadows darken it. But I am only like 80% sure.
If someone told me it was grey IRL I would believe that easily. While that dress is clearly not black and blue IRL. Because that's impossible. It would be just as unlikely for it to be purple IRL. Unless... the colors were changed in Photoshop. There is just so much shadows can do to a dress color on a photo. You will never take a picture of a black and blue dress and make it seem white and gold. I can't really see why you would even think it's possible.
That was the entire point of the gif in the OP. It shows how a blue dress under warm lighting produces the same color as a white dress in a cool shadow.
I have always seen the dress as black and blue. I just showed this picture to my son and he repeated three times that it is "white and yellow." I don't know what to feel anymore.
It was a different monitor, but now all I see is blue. When I first looked at the image again I forgot what color it was and it looked yellow, then I clicked it into a new window and it looked blue again.
Same. When it was first a thing I only ever saw black and blue. Just now, looking at it again, I switched and saw the white and gold. It was crazy and I had trouble going back. A minute or so later and I go to double-check and it's back to the correct black and blue. At least I now understand.
Freaking me out. I've always seen black and blue, but saw gold and white for the first time too. Read your comment and went back and looked again. It was black and blue. Thought the whole thing was bullshit til now.
This was the first time I've seen it in over a year, I forgot what color it was island it became gold and white, now I can only see blue and black. You have to forget it's blue to see it.
prozit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same, but then I looked away and back and it was blue and black again.
Get this, I saw gold and white, and while staring at it in the first 5 minutes, it shifted to blue and black. I've only occasionally seen it white/gold for split seconds. My brain is tripped out.
The thing is that to me for example it looks like the light comes from behind the dress so this side we see is on the shadow. It's not true but that's how my brain interprets it.
I got a zero, and initially saw the dress as white and gold under significant shade with strong backlighting behind it - I took it as being in a tent, near its opening, actually. I couldn't understand how anyone could possibly see it as blue and black.
Having seen the actual dress on Amazon as well as numerous comparisons like the one in the OP, I'm no longer able to see it as white and gold at all.
It's not physiological at all, any more than the chessboard illusion is - it's about the assumptions you make in judging how the seen is lit. It's perception, not sensation.
That just means you are in the sunlight camp. I can't help but see that the dress is in the shade and we are just seeing a very bright unshaded background.
I've tried hard, I can't make myself see the dress as being in the light.
If you check out the wikipedia page there are actually a lot of scientific studies about this that could he an interesting read. I haven't checked them out but I might after I finish finals.
Funny enough, it doesn't help at all. I've heard plenty of times that the gold I see is actually black and the white I see is blue, but that information doesn't give me a perspective shift (and I've started at this dumb thing and willed myself for something like 15 minutes).
I think the only time that could let me see it 'correctly' is if somehow the image could be zoomed out showing that the foreground is obviously in full light. Otherwise all my mind sees is a white and gold dress in the shade.
Embla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, That's a distinction I don't really understand and haven't thought about til now. You know it's a dress, you can see it's at a mall, and it's not something sold at hot topic... So it necessarily is taken in the light not the shade. I guess I just don't understand how the assumption would be "my understanding and knowledge of photography tells me the object is in the shade"... But then toss common sense out the window.
It makes zero practical sense for the picture to be taken in the shade.
That said, the first time I saw it I thought it was blue/gold. I can see it as blue/black, but for the life of me I can't see it as white/gold, except in the demos of the phenomenon.
I see white gold, and it looks like the dress is shaded while the background is blown out. I know it's not btw, but no matter what, I can't make my eyes see the dress as being fully in the light.
I'm kind of confused why people can't at least understand why people see it differently. The whole point of this gif is to show how the colors can look different based on different factors, including perceived shade.
I think when people say Gold and White that is usually what they mean. For colors such as its slightly grey off blue people tend to "round down" to colors such as White being how they define it.
Also Gold is an easy word to use for muddy yellows. Seeing it as light blue and dark yellow is indeed simply just seeing it for the literal color values in the image.
Have you never seen a picture of someone standing in the shade, while its a sunny day? The background highlights are usually blown out. That is what it looks like in the original photo, to me at least.
b0w3n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The gradient near the collar shows it almost fully lit head on, though.
Still kinda blows my mind. I seen that picture in your post as white and gold, then read the wiki and seen it was black and blue and then looked at it again and couldnt see the white and gold afterwards....
9DAN2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:46 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i've never been able to see anything but black and blue. maybe because the first few times i saw it, it was accompanied by a picture of the dress on their website as proof that it's really black and blue. now my brain is just like "nah you saw a good picture, it's not white."
I don't understand, for it to be an "illusion" they would have to be the same colour yet they are objectively not.
As with the dress, I think the fairest way to do it is use a computer which will just output the colours as the RGB/CMYK/Whatever values the program uses and its clear that a) the colour in the original picture [right/left] are different and for the dress it's a brown-ish colour and blue-ish colour. any hue is probably due to lighting and camera.
So when I click your link I see the dress as white and gold. Then I click the wiki link above and see the same thing. But if I then scroll down and then back up it becomes black and blue...
rathat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are still simply tricks of the light. It has nothing to do with subjective perceptions. And where you draw a cutoff between blue and purple is wholy irrelevant to actually observing entirely different colors than others.
The way our brain balances colors can be fooled and this is just one of those cases. It just so happens that there are two ways of balancing this image and so we get a 50/50 split on what people report seeing.
Did you even watch the GIF? The input you receive from your visual processing changes in front of your eyes. Your idea of blue and white didn't swap, it was just how your brain balanced the image for you. And nor is it out of focus or over exposed!
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:56 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's not an opinion, you are just factually wrong. This GIF is demonstrating the same exact effect in a way that allows them to show both sides of the effect. In the original photo, your brain can only pick one.
rathat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:24 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more our brain adapts our perception of the color based on context. Those who thought it was in a shadow saw white and gold and those who thought it was in the light saw black and blue. Which is what the example above is showing. Notice the filters on the dress on each side are the colors of sunlight and shadows. Here's a video with some examples https://youtu.be/PN1NAiM55hU
[deleted] ยท 1140 points ยท Posted at 18:11:29 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ph0X ยท 324 points ยท Posted at 19:22:46 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best part is when you move it yourself slowly between the two and see it slowly change in your head. Truly a mindfuck.
Bonus exercise: See how far away from the dress you can convince your brain that the piece you cut is a certain color.
If I look left, the middle one matches the left one, if I look right, the middle one matches the right one. And I can get my brain to switch between the two just like that. But purely looking at the middle, I have a very hard time making it switch by myself.
TThor ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 21:46:32 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, it's pretty easy. Default is hollow mask look, even with the higher quality image. I can force it to be the illusion by choice, but it's something I have to actively do (not all that hard honestly).
TThor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could potentially show some other similar brain abnormality, including other forms of psychosis, alcoholism, and I wouldn't be surprised if lack of sleep could contribute.
I can make these colors sort of melt into the other looking at this one in the middle. But the ballerina one I've never gotten to switch without looking away.
For me the easiest way to make it switch is to look at the shadow of the foot that's closer to the ground, I can sort of 'will' it to switch directions that way.
The linked image doesn't even remotely resemble the right side (white and yellow) dress to me, even if I cover up the left side completely, it still looks like washed out purple and black. Whereas the ballerina slips easily into whatever rotation I try to imagine, the dress illusion doesn't "switch over" until it's literally overlapping the yellow coloring to demonstrate that it's identical.
Similar illusions I guess, but my brain has a much harder time with the color one.
Isord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:23:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can cover up the far left dress and lighting, leaving only the full right dress and the slice visible, and the slice still looks black and blue.
It appears to "jump" and be choppy when it rest literally right above white and gold. Otherwise, its black and blue the whole time. I can spin the shadow ballerina in any direction no problem.
The difference between this (because I just did it and it fucking worked, which blew my mind since I've never seen anything BUT dark blue/black) and the picture of the dress is that you have enough information around the dress with the lighting to know what it should be.
Not to start a whole thing about it, but I saw white and gold because I assumed the dress was in a shadow (for some reason), like it was under a canopy. If they had shown a zoomed out or uncropped picture, I think it would have been more obvious it was in full sunlight, and therefore wouldn't have become such a phenomenon.
I think everyone agrees the background is absolutely bathing in light, no confusion there. But where my brain goes wrong is it thinks the foreground object is in shadow, much like the subjects in this photo, and under this assumption it compensates for an underexposed dress. So where you see a heavily-lit overexposed blue dress, I see a poorly-lit underexposed white dress.
No, I get that, I just.... I guess my real problem with understanding is why that would happen is it's clearly involving heavy flash photography to the point that whateve ris in the background is reflecting the flash. Like, even when I try I can't convince my brain to correct based upon the assumption that the background is the only thing lit because then the rest of the picture would only be interpretable as "for some reason someone has a fucking flood light they're shining from behind the dress and towards the camera" which just... no....
I picture it being midday in some vaguely low-latitude country, let's say Morocco, and the photographer is inside the canopy of a shady street stall, and without thinking about lighting decided to take a shot of the dress against an extremely bright background. Didn't even get the ISO settings right. Amateur!
Yeah, that was the background though. The dress was in the foreground, and as speaking only for myself, I thought the dress was under some sort of canopy. I felt that just based on the colors it looked like it was in a shadow, and it's because of all that bright light that I thought the exposure was messed up.
zanotam ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:04 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Er... but why? Flash photography is pretty standard and the intense washing out of everything but the ground would be reeeeeally hard ot get without flash photography and in this case I've been told it looks like that because there was indeed something reflecting the flash in the background.
This seems to imply that our brain uses surrounding context to determine colors.
S_Bundy ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:53:35 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my cognitive psychology class I learned about some assumptions that we make to deal with stuff like this. Basically, the mind assumes that the brightest object around is white, and the darkest object around is black. So that's why, even though the color is exactly the same, we use the other colors around to perceive how bright or dark it is.
also why if you are drawing or painting a person you should never use white for the whites of their eyes. most of the time the eye will be in shadow and so impossible to be truly white. that's why if you do use pure white it looks uncanny and unnatural.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:00:18 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely does. I've seen pictures of "red strawberries" that had zero red in them, but by contrast appeared it in a heavily green-washed image.
You betcha they do, it's called Color Constancy. Brains are awesome. Your brain wants to know what color (and shape and size) something actually is regardless of context, so it goes through processing kind of like white balancing a camera. When context clues are unclear or misleading like with the dress, it makes its best guess and tends to stick with that until convinced otherwise.
What color is a projector screen? White. Now light it up with a blank projection and what color is it? Still white. Now put up a slide with some plain text on it and what colors are the words and letters? Black. But that "black" is the same color as when we said the unlit projector screen was white.
Yes, it does. A color by itself is just seen by that color, but the colors around it and perceived lighting make us assume it's something else. Artists know this quite well.
As an example, here you can easily tell she has blonde hair and light skin even though the actual colors are orange and dark green
I meant things like the color of a car or the color of the clothing the person was wearing, or identifying the person. Human perception is demonstrably fallible as these illusions show, in addition to human memory also being flawed.
I had to make some weird gang signs with my hands to cover up the rest of the checkerboard and isolate the two boxes, but we came to the same conclusion.
Alternatively, the brain is far smarter than we give it credit for, being able to automatically compensate for shadows like that in a way that makes the thing under the shadows much clearer to see.
Try not to see the change in color. Only realize the truth. There is no color. Then you will see it is not that dress that changes, it is only yourself.
The blue/white color is this one and the yellow/black color is this one. So the answer is I still have no idea, but they seem to be more blue and yellow rather than black and white. At least without another color nearby to mess with your sense of white balance.
I wonder if people with TN panels give different answers than those with IPS / PLS panels.
Deto ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:06:38 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's no original (in this picture at least): it's a completely symmetric situation.
Start with some normal lighting conditions, and you have
A = Blue and Black dress
B = White and Gold dress
Then, let's say that we have lighting which modifies colors. Call this a function on the original color set. Let's call F(x) the act of adding light and G(x) the act of casting a shadow.
Nice. No worries if not, but could you explain why it wouldn't make sense to add or subtract the light/cast shadow instead of multiply it? Thanks!
Deto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:52 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually trying to just be more general than that and represent F(x) and G(x) as functions that alter the input color profile in some way. Adding/subtracting probably makes sense for those functions, though more accurately, you'd have to add/subtract a wavelength-specific amount if you're modeling the color profile of the light-source.
Thanks man! I almost feel like this comment should be on the top. It actually breaks down the confusion surrounding this. I think the main problem people have is they know the solution is simple, but they are not used to explaining simple things in such a broken-down manner.
I saw the website that was selling the dress back when it first happened, it's blue and black. If you notice, the picture that everyone was looking at is really washed out, so it could go either way, but on the page it was being sold from, it was clearly a deep blue and black.
The original cut piece is yellow and blue. The pic on the left is of a black and blue dress, but there's a yellow filter over half of it where the cut in the gif was taken from. That yellow filter makes the black turn yellow and changes the shade of the blue, but it's still blue. Similarly, the pic on the right side is a yellow and white dress with a blue filter covering half. The blue turns the white to blue and changes the shade of the yellow, but it's still yellow. So the piece being moved is yellow and blue and the halves of the dresses with filters over them are the same shades of yellow and blue.
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. There are colored blocks overlayed over half of each of the images. The areas with each of the overlays have the same colors, whereas the areas without the overlays are black and blue or yellow and white.
In the future there will be two religions the church of yellow and gold and the church of black in blue and I imagine the fighting will be never ending
The age of the earth to the contrary notwithstanding ;) the retailer of the Dress has stated it is black and blue, as well as being available in other colors (including white) . . . but not with gold trim.
You missed the point. The Earth has been dated to 4.5 billion years but that doesn't stop people from believing something it's only 6000. So evidence that the dress is blue and black would not necessarily stop people from joining the church of yellow and gold.
Those squares represent shadow/light. If they were filters, the cut piece would change colors/tint along the lines of the "filter." But you can see the colors stay constant as it crosses the lines. Therefore, not filters.
They clearly do not. There is one uniform grey background. You can see the tint of the filter over that background. The one on the left is yellow and the one on the right is blue.
the cut piece would change colors/tint along the lines of the "filter."
That logic disproves your own hypothesis as well because if they were shadows the cut piece would change color as it moved in and out of the shadows as well.
The better explanation for why the cut piece doesn't change color is that the creator didn't bother to animate that aspect of the demonstration.
I misspoke. What I meant to say is that the yellow square represents light, and the darker grey/blue square represents shadow.
You are right in that they are "filters" applied over the girl/dress, but that was only during the original drawing phase, which could be achieved in a sophisticated drawing program like Photoshop, which supports layers.
However, the gif above is no longer in the drawing phase, but in demo phase. This demo could be made in MSpaint if you want, which does not support layers. The gif itself is just cutting out and moving a still image, with no "filters" or layers to change colors as they move. So again, they cut piece does not change because there is no active shadow or layer. Only a single 2D static image.
Edit: I think the point of misunderstanding is that you are assuming that digital filters are active in this gif. But you can check that they are not by taking a screencap of the gif, and trying it for yourself in MSpaint.
Edit 2: I think "the dress" is a great phenomenon to study for conflict resolution. It is a phenomenon that causes nearly incommunicable and different experiences between people ("how can you not see that it's ____ and ____!?") which can lead to arguments between some people. And as we can see here, it can even lead to disagreements about the explanation of the phenomenon.
Edit 3: Well it turns out we were on the same page anyway. Still fascinating how much disagreement and misunderstanding a picture of a dress can cause!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The digital image is static. Cut one piece from anywhere and it won't change. The colors under the filter are the what is shown in the dress. The color seen through the filter are the same. The point of the illustration that different colors can look the same then seen through under different light (through filters intentional or otherwise).
Well it looks like we were talking about the same thing, then. I think the misunderstanding arose when you replied to u/rowanbladex who said that it was caused by "lighting, but not filters," and you corrected him by saying those squares were filters. But I think u/rowanbladex was also saying there were no active filters in the gif, which you seem to agree with.
I guess you weren't using the internet in early 2015? A picture of a dress with this colouration had people freaking out for weeks
surkh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:03 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The big deal about it is the way many people strongly perceive only one version and cannot see the other one, try as they might.
The big deal about it comes down to the notions around "seeing is believing" and this is also why this particular "illusion" feels a lot more troubling to many people than most other visual illusions.
The big deal about it comes down to the notions around "seeing is believing" and this is also why this particular "illusion" feels a lot more troubling to many people than most other visual illusions.
more people show take this class then... it is free.
It's true that the shadowed area of white and gold can be the same, visually, as a weirdly lit area of blue and black, however when we can clearly see both the shadowed AND lit areas of either dress it's painfully obvious it's just blue and black. I've said my peace.
mrgermy ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:00:24 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never say my peace. Just my war. And that's me saying my piece.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:44:26 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this! Different lightings over two different color schemes is not the same as lighting both schemes with one source. I get the brainfart for people who never worked with photoshop blend modes but even then, it's pretty obvious.
Edit: To those who downvote, please explain to me why both dresses under the same lighting (look at the background) are different colors? Yeah that's right: because these are two different color schemes.
But so what that it's different lighting? The point is to try to illustrate what people are seeing when they see it one way or the other.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:57:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The whole point of my demonstration is that even under the same lighting, the two dresses still have different color schemes in the example above. People are implying that the two dresses have the same color scheme (or are identical if you will), and the brainfart just comes from the lighting, which is false. They are different, and have different color schemes, which does not really pays justice to the original "Guess the dress color scheme" debate. It's not the same thing. In the original picture, the exact same background lighting was used, which leaved little to interpretation: either your brain was used to see stock merchandise pictures/could process the usual daylight lighting and could tell the dress was black/blue, or either your brain interprets the lighting wrongly by assuming it's a white/gold dress under some kind of shadow. But in the end, the original dress was still black and blue, and in this example, as I demonstrated, two dresses with two different color schemes were used. Not the same thing. Related to how your brain interprets light as in the original debate sure, but not the same thing. As soon as you add information, your brain will begin to build context around it, expecting things it can comprehend. And there is much more context in this picture than in the original one, given the additional space with both dresses with different color schemes under the same lighting, and then the added simulated lighting squares. And as in the original debate, about half people will see it this way while the other half won't. Also, the original picture was photographed 3D material, not 2D drawing, so there were much more shadow details, which gave your brain different information for interpretation and assumptions, no matter what colour you thought it was.
If you like brain fuckery, try this one. It depicts very well how your brain perceives shapes and colors only using light positioning. It looks like the face is morphing, but the light is simply spinning so your brain tries to fill the missing information as the face seems to change its shape, not very different from a 2D morph effect. If you look at it long enough, you'll soon realize how the light hits her hairs is adding to this perception by creating kind of a visual pan, forcing your attention to left, right, left, right and so on... which brings an even more dramatic effect to the rest of the frame. Because if you concentrate on her face only, avoiding any attention to her hairs, the morphing you were perceiving earlier loses most of its effect.
agree with what you are saying, but the posted image could also be trying to say that two color schemes can look the same at different lighting settings. This would then mean that it depends on our experience, which color scheme we wil eventually perceive.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:40 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back to the old facts/perception debate. You are right, it totally depends on how you perceive it. But only one colour scheme is the true one to the question: what colour is the dress?
If the question was: do you think it's possible that this dress can be perceived as white/gold under some circumstances, my most honest answer would be yes.
I see it this way: if you saw that woman run in a alleyway followed 2 minutes later by the police and they asked, what colour was the dress? The answer is black and blue.
i was more talking about the reverse from what you did in the illustration of yours. What if you get only one of the schemes with the bad lightning, can you figure out what the original color scheme is without any further information. I would doubt it, but i am not that educated on that field.
just chiming in here: The thing about the original dress picture is that we have more than enough extra information to see what the actual color of the dress is. not the least of which we can see how its colors change from highlights to shadows and then on top of that we can see enough of the environment it is placed in and see how the light interacts with things around it.
You just wrote that essay basically saying that the original dress was black and blue, half the people were misinterpreting it as gold and white because their brain came to the conclusion that the dress is gold and yellow in heavy shadow, the other half saw the true colors and understood that the dress is under heavy lighting.
I don't know what your problem is with the gif but any sane person can see that the two dresses are different colors and have a layer of blue or yellow representing shadow and light. What the gif is illustrating is that the blue and black under heavy lighting with context appears as blue and black but when that same piece is moved over to the gold and white under shadows, they're the same color, we see the originally yellow tinted blue and black as yellow and white, with the context of the yellow and white dress.
So it shows the two conclusions people's brains make. We know the two dresses are different colors in the pic.
the whole point is that they aren't the same colour under the same lighting. the gif is showing that the same dress in two different lightings appear to be different colours.
when you say "Different lightings over two different color schemes" you're wrong because they're the same colour scheme.
No, the dresses in the gif were both made first as blue/black and white/gold. Then a colored overlay was placed over half of each dress: gold over the blue dress and blue over the gold dress. The gif is illustrating how the different lighting on the different colored dresses produces the same color.
The issue is that the two camps of people interpret the scene in two different ways. One sees the picture as a blue/black dress with the lighting blown out. The other misinterprets the picture as a white/gold dress that is in a shadow. Both of these people are actually seeing the same dress color, but their brain's interpretation of the scene is what leads to people saying the dress itself is one or the other.
Really? I always thought it was peace. Like you're making peace with yourself for saying the thing you want to say. Though I guess piece makes more sense...
The point is to explain the famous photo, which contained very few lighting cues. So people's brains just took a guess, and many guessed wrong so they saw it as yellow and white.
But the thing is it contained enough lighting cues. The dress has light being cast on it, we have bounce light, shadows, we have an environment that looks a little blown out but otherwise normally colored and we even have other dresses that, if the dress is gold and white, then they do not appear to conform to that same illusion. There are just too many visual cues to misinterpret its color. The Op's gif shows only how with specific color shifting can create the illusion, But there's nothing in the original photo that implies that could be going on.
There are just too many visual cues to misinterpret its color.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make - it's an established fact that a significant percentage of the population did misinterpret the colors in the photo.
It's easy to see the correct lighting cues once you see it the right way. When I look at now I agree it's obvious. But when I first saw it in 2015 I saw it as yellow and white plain as day, and I couldn't see how it could be blue.
That is utterly baffling to me. You can see where the light is hitting the fabric and you can see that the lighter fabric is blue and the darker fabric is turning a bit goldish, The shadows of the lighter fabric are STILL blue and the shadows of the darker fabric are just straight up black. How for the life of me can someone see gold and white in that?? AAAAAAAAAAH
This whole thing makes me irrationally angry. I'm trying not to say mean things.
Instead of just thinking that you're some kind of superior intellect for seeing it the right way, you should look at it as an interesting insight into how human visual perception works. The wiki article has a good summary of some scientific explanations of the phenomenon.
Oh yeah I totally understand the science of how that sort of illusion works and I don't deny that there can be a debate for which is right, but I still can't fathom how the dress picture can be one of those illusions. There's too much information available to instantly see exactly what color it is. And not surprisingly it is black and blue. If it were any other color, under those lighting conditions its highlights wouldn't look like they do. Its shadows might, but not both consistently. I don't mean to come off as a "superior intellect" I've just yet to see an explanation that makes sense as to why someone could see it as anything other than black and blue and so it's maddening me.
I mean the science of how and why that particular photo produces an illusion for some people, which is what you're struggling with. I think it's very interesting that, unlike other illusions, most people are not able to switch their perception of it at will.
For instance, I first saw it as white and gold, but after looking into it and seeing some demonstrations my perception switched to blue and black. Since then I'vee been unable to see it as white and gold, and I agree with your sense of not understanding how anyone could, it's so obviously blue and black. And yet, I know that I myself used to see it that way. Things are happening in the brain below the level of conscious awareness.
nomnaut ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:05:58 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the color of the lighting on the material that is key in the perception of color on the dress. Just like at night under yellow street lights our clothes and cars can look different. One image appears to be gold and white under dark lighting, while the other appears to be black and blue under warmer, yellow lighting.
I can only see it when I invert my phone colors. When I do that I can make out the shade differences, but if I don't then I feel certain that the color of the patch is actually changing. Weird.
rathat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:27 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you can't see shadows and highlights correctly in negative. Sure, the colors still have the same values compared to each other, but our brains no longer compensate for the shadow.
rathat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:46 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The filters represent light and shadow. The original picture is a blue and black dress in bright sunlight. A lot of people perceive it as being a white and gold dress in a shadow.
MapleA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:40 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never once had a person tell me the dress was gold and white. I honestly don't understand why it became such a big deal. It's so obviously blue and black and no matter how hard I try I can't see it as white and gold.
Unfocus you eyes and without context your brain won't switch the colors.
alternatively focus on the outside of the image and try to view the color without looking at the dress.
If that all fails, try the cross eyed method.
MapleA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe you. I just looked at the picture again and it's clearly black and blue, if you can't see that I think you should have your eyes checked. I also took the original picture and inverted the colors and then it becomes gold and white. It baffles me that anyone can see it gold and white.
Ben604 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:56 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe most women usually see the gold. Not certain though.
MapleA ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:34:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It always baffled me because it's clearly black and blue. Don't you think so too?
rathat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:03 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the original picture, I bet it also look like it's in bright sunlight too? Well it is. But to some people, it looks like it's in a shadow, when we perceive it being in a shadow, our brain compensates for the shadow to show us the real color, but in this case, 9ts misleading us because there is no shadow.
MapleA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do people see it in shadow when there's a fucking bright light in the picture?! I guess people that see gold and white aren't that smart or good at picking up visual cues.
WeRip ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:47:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It IS black and blue, but the image is 'gold' and pale blue. It's a bad photo, but some people's brains will pick up the context that it's black and blue. The image is actually 'gold' and pale blue if you extract the colors.
I have seen the dress. But the gif above looks like the colors are changing. I want to know what is going on I just do not believe I have a true understanding
I always saw it as white and gold until one night I looked at it and it was black and blue. I was in shock and did a double take and then it changed back and never returned.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:47 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But is it black and blue or white and gold?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's blue and black dammit
AR35_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:16 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw black and blue for a second and then it snapped back to gold and white
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The left sides of the dresses are different colors, the right sides are The same color. They used the shaded boxes to obscure the color changes and darkened the characters skin on the right to seal the illusion . There's no filter being applied to the colors making them appear different. It's all in the backgrounds.
i still only see a white/yellow dress in the original photo (IT'S A BLUE FILTER BECAUSE IT'S IN LOW LIGHT, IT'S BACK LIT!!) this is 10/10 perfect. My mind's a little blown.
Okay so they have the square boxes to show that in one case it could be a lit up black and blue dress, and in another case it could be a dimly-lit white and gold dress.
But look at the original picture. The lighting is so unambiguous. Everything in the background is so bright, it's clear that there is strong lighting. This should automatically tell your brain to conclude it is black and blue like it does when you see that snippet move to the light square in this gif. I don't understand how this percept didn't kick in for almost half the population when everyone was arguing about this.
Humans are the only species that can perceive the world as consisting of objects with properties independent of their surroundings. Aliens aren't confused that they have the same photons coming off of them, they become confused when the light is equalized and they don't match anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This animation is weird for me because as I watch it move over to the right, I see it changing colors. Specifically as it crosses over the lit part on the right side. But then as it crosses back over, I can't see a color change. For what it's worth, I've never been able to see the dress in the original picture as anything but white and gold, being in shadow in the foreground with an overexposed background.
Can someone who sees blue and black tell me what happens for you when the image moves right? Is it blue and black to start with for you? All I see is white and gold moving from left to right. Even on the left side, it just looks like a dress made in four different colors. My brain just will not see it. I have kind of seen blue/black if I turn the image almost completely flat to my field of vision but it never stays that way.
I simply changed the background to match (they were different colors) and whited out the front of the dress. This has nothing to do with the colors at hand. This is a drawing, the colors are being manipulated with a DIFFERENT shadow overlay color.
Also notice the cartoon lost all it's outlines. If they were in the same lighting, the outline would be as clear and strong in both images.
I took a still image of this. Brought it into a paint program and cut and drag a piece of one dress to the other dress, the colors match. No filter manipulation and no shadow overlay happening. Yes, there's an illusion happening but the pieces of the dress from their respective halves are the same.
I have never seen the dress as anything but blue and black. But in this particular example it feels like I'm being forced to see it as white and gold thanks to optical fuckery.
The dress on the left looks black and blue, whereas the dress on the right looks blue white and gold. So the illusion is that the black and blue dress is still mostly black and blue in the boxed region, and the white and gold is still (mostly) white and gold in the lit boxed region. On the off chance you don't know the context, this is it.
I'm sorry but these are not the same colors. Yes maybe in irl they were but this actually changes. I too a snap of it and analyzed the color gamut. Sorry not same.
Place your thumb over the left side of the left dress. You can turn the illusion on and off like a light-switch. Try it! Despite not being exact, it's still really cool
It drives me nuts man! Did you ever have those two half circle shapes that you put one on top of the other and it would show up being larger? Oh drives me nuts!
It's important for understanding how we perceive the world! Once you realize your intuition can be wrong, you can catch yourself before making a mistake
rathat ยท 2228 points ยท Posted at 17:38:46 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know this is an old thing by now, but this is by far the best example to show what's going on.
imjustjealous ยท 465 points ยท Posted at 19:40:44 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Original picture
scotishstriker ยท 354 points ยท Posted at 20:51:29 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the first time I saw the dress as gold and white.
Trayf ยท 713 points ยท Posted at 20:56:15 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been able to see it as anything other than gold and white.
Bacon_Hero ยท 953 points ยท Posted at 21:00:47 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how some people's eyes see it that way. It's literally black and blue and that's all I can ever see it as
cortesoft ยท 581 points ยท Posted at 21:07:43 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is obviously black and blue, and I feel very vindicated learning that the dress is, in fact, black and blue.
dylvital ยท 239 points ยท Posted at 21:23:49 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know right, like, thank goodness, we have the good eyesight.
goinROGUEin10 ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 00:13:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always felt it was impossible for anyone to see it as white and gold. I understand the black being gold because of certain lighting, but there is no way in hell that that shade of blue in perceived as white! It makes zero sense.
xombae ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 00:37:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could say the exact same thing, but opposite. That shit is so very clearly white to me I just can't see how anyone can see it differently. And I cannot see the gold as black. I just can't.
Brains are weird.
Aden_Sickle ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 00:47:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how holy wars start.
u_suck_paterson ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:13:47 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
im freaking out because i was in the black and blue army back in the day, now i can only see white and gold and cant get my brain back to the way i used to see it.
edit: ahh shit now its blue/black again :S
floggeriffic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:41 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had they opposite problem, when the whole ordeal first started I never actually looked at the dress until it was being talked about everywhere. I remember the original post but I guess I never clicked through. Anyway, the first time I finally looked, about a week into the meme, it was white and gold and stayed that way for a good week. Then, I looked for probably my 4th or 5th time and while examining the photo, it's background, etc, it flipped, like a switch, to blue and black. It's never gone back and the more I look the more I'm convinced it never will.
Random_Sime ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:51:33 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see it as black and blue, but sometimes I see it as white and gold in the first moment of looking at it. So I've seen what you're seeing, but then my brain changes it.
moscow-mule ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:51 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just happened to me for the first time. Strange how our brains work!
baddox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:24 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, you can say that, but both of us can open the image in an image editor and verify that, indeed, it's blue. Also, the actual dress is black and blue. The ability to say something is not a very strong argument.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:36:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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baddox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually only talking about the blue vs. yellow, and while the blue is fairly desaturated, it's still pretty unambiguously blue in those photoshop screenshots, particularly if the choice is between blue or yellow.
The black bands are much more ambiguous, and I wouldn't have any qualms with anyone describing it as a blue and gold dress.
Futhermucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:21 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there's real white right next to it dude
hakkzpets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The animated picture OP linked switches between being black and blue to being yellow and white when he drags that little cut out around.
That is freaky. Then again, I take pride in being a centrist. That way I never have to take a moral stance.
Jambozx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I saw it as white and gold I would understand how people can see it as black and blue because literally the colors are actually black and blue. I think the lighting just messes with some people's brains to make it look like white and gold. What happens when you cover the background with your fingers so you only see the dress? Is it black and blue now?
xombae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you can really say how you think you'd see it unless you actually see it that way.
And that's the thing, when I cover up the background and just leave a small bit of the dress exposed, I still see gold and white.
Samura1_I3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing though. You have to intentionally remove context to get to that assumption.
l_MAKE_SHIT_UP ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:15:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw it in white and gold the first time and not even 20 minutes later it was black and blue. Now I see gold and black, no idea what this black magic is.
Dray_Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:33 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have always seen it as gold and blue
Arctousi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:03:58 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's weird, if I squint I can clearly see it as black and blue, as soon as I focus on it, bam white and gold. Complete brain fuckery and I don't understand why.
Goatcrapp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:04:02 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the screen you're viewing on. On my pro level calibrated monitor used for graphics work - always blue and black. On my way saturated, contrasty phone, always gold and white. I went with blue and black, and just assumed (correctly) that my phone screen was nowhere near properly calibration.
skftw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, that's whats doing it. I have two different monitors side by side. If i move the window so it's halfway on each, one is very clearly blue/black and the other side is equally clearly white/gold. The colors are close enough with the weird lighting that the difference between monitors is enough to make it change in my head.
I also noticed that even on the "white/gold" monitor it changes to blue/black if i view it in my peripheral vision instead of staring right at it. How interesting.
Archmonduu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:07:19 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sampling the image just cannot fathom how anyone sees it as black and blue - And I've seen the black and blue in the original picture for a short bit.
http://imgur.com/qFql9AH
Brauhm ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 21:38:04 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean, there's nothing wrong with your eye sight, it's your interpretation if you see white and gold. Eyes are fine, brain is funky.
halfar ยท 139 points ยท Posted at 23:05:18 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"well, no. it's not their eyes that are fucky, it's their brains."
#blackandblue masterrace
OlivesAreOk ยท 223 points ยท Posted at 00:28:53 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Dress: People who saw it as white and gold had more active brains, scientists claim
gg masterrace
TheMauveAvenger ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 00:41:22 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So your brain expends more energy only to arrive at the wrong conclusion. Sounds like a negative to me.
OlivesAreOk ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:43:56 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The blue and black people see the world as it is, the gold and yellow people see the world as it could be. Higher cognitive function, boyo.
Keegan821 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 00:44:29 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's called hallucinating
OlivesAreOk ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:44:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be upset! One day you might reach the heights of gold and white brain capacity... if only you believe in courage, and kindness, and occasionally, just a little bit of magic.
halfar ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:49:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you mean one day we'll be smart enough to not even tell blue from white?
OlivesAreOk ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:50:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'll understand when you get older and wiser and see the black as gold.
vidboy_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:20:47 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cant wait to be stubbornly wrong with a broken brain when I'm older.
Keegan821 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:59:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw it as white and gold once, after smoking some of the best weed I've ever had and subsequently melting into the couch. Does that count as magic?
OlivesAreOk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:37 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sure sounds like it!
HikikomoriKruge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:34 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people pay good money for something others get for free.
Three_Muscatoots ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:50:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bull, they just wanted to feel better about being wrong
Keegan821 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:44:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More active isn't valuable. More accurate is.
MasterEmp ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:18:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure the schizophrenic, hallucinogenic homeless guy down the street has a real active mind
halfar ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:49:18 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh, you mean the whiteandgold guy down the street?
Samura1_I3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:52:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And efficiency is king.
NinjaRobotPilot ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:05:42 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GG extra effort to still be wrong.
Daniel_USA ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:38:22 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's scientist talk for "these are the kids that have imaginary friends and think there are monsters under their bed until they are 10 years old".
mattrollz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:14:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No shit there's more brain activity. Normal brain: It's a black and blue dress. Fucky brain: SHIT IDK IT KINDA LOOKS LIKE A WEIRD SHADE OF GOLD, BUT SHIT WAIT IDK MAYBE ITS NOT GOLD BUT LIKE ITS KINDA YELLOWISH IN THAT LIGHTING MAYBE IDK. THE OTHER PART IS WHITE MAYBE? HMM SHIT ITS KINDA OFF MAYBE EGGSHELL WHITE AH SHIT LEMME CHECK WITH LEFT BRAIN AYE YO LEFT BRAIN WHATCHU THINKIN?
OlivesAreOk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:20:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quickness to anger is usually associated with lower mental capabilities.
Dranox ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:07:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You seem like a very intelligent, balanced person
kleo80 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:02:59 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! So we are smarter. Take that, blue-and-black-lookers!
OlivesAreOk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:04:41 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I HAVE NEVER FELT MORE VALIDATED ABOUT ANYTHING IN MY ENTIRE LIFE
Keegan821 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:30:37 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, not smarter. Just takes you more thinking to get to an incorrect conclusion. Bravo.
Arctousi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mistakenly read that as hookers and thought that was completely uncalled for.
Destr0p ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:43 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it's them making a wrong decision so they get more attention
Wild_Space ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:15 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that extra activity leads to a wrong conclusion, it's not exactly a positive.
Chelseaqix ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:58:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see how this is in any way definitive proof they're more intelligent.
Couldn't it be equally likely their brains are going into overdrive to try to understand because theyre dumb? /shrug
teamBlackandBlue
baddox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:31 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Busy making up objectively incorrect stuff. Hardly a compliment.
_Chris33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is like saying people who don't get an answer right first time are smarter than those who got it straight away, because they had to work more to get to the answer.
McMiron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/iamverysmart
Dixon_Butte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:03 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seeing wrong colors means a more active brain? Makes a kind of sense, I suppose.
HeartlessSora1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:04 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Extra activity in the same sense as an extra chromosome
Shoelesshobos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:17:39 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS JUST MADE ME REMEMBER MY ANGER TOWARDS YOU BLACK AND BLUE PEOPLE.
LONG LIVE WHITE AND GOLD
halfar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:14 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WOW.
JUST FUCKING WOW.
it's fucking 2016, people. are we still gonna let shit like this slide?
metatron5369 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:41 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your brain is supposed to color correct in this situation though. That's why so many people get tripped up.
Though I suspect it's got more to do with poor color on people's monitors than faulty brains.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:05:02 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phew, it's my brain that's shitty. Thank goodness
Brauhm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same tho I only seen white and gold.
brandotherhymer ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:23:22 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's gold and white Source: am colorblind
Evisrayle ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:59:09 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm colorblind and fuck you, it's black and blue. I knew it THE WHOLE TIME!!
afriendtosave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Colorblind and it's gold and white to me. If I squint my eyes I can see how it might appear blue and black to someone. Weird
Evisrayle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:52 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see how someone might see it as white and gold โ but the rest of the photo is overexposed! If it's a lighting issue, you should look at the ambient lighting, yeah?
CaffeineSippingMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see gold and I know it is gold. You are all trying to make me think I'm crazy. You sound just like my shrink. Take the pills you will start to see things our way.
contrarian_barbarian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:19:53 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, dunno, I saw it as black and blue, and I'm partially colorblind.
FoggyDonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:22 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have perfect (0) colorvision and I can only see gold and white. I'm not sure that has anything to do with it though.
scamp41 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Partially? That's not how it works.
thepotatoman23 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:38:46 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly commonly being partially colorblind is exactly how it works.
The most common colorblindness is only being unable to tell red and green apart. Only seeing Monochrome is actually one of the most rare colorblindness types.
scamp41 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's my point, complete color blindness basically isn't a thing. Color blind is color blind.
contrarian_barbarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's also degrees. For example, within a given set of colors, it's possible to have complete colorblindness (complete inability to see the colors in question), or partial where you lose contrast and ability to differentiate shades of those colors, but you can still somewhat see them. I'm in the latter boat - I have moderate red/green colorblindness, and minor blue/yellow.
Specifically, I have minor Tritanomaly (tied to the blue cones), and moderate Deuteranomaly (tied to the green cones). The latter is actually the most common form of color blindness.
Ponicrat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:35:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it could have been white and gold in different lighting and you'd see exactly the same thing.
threetogetready ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
y'all are crazy
Agus-Teguy ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:20:56 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is, if it was gold and white and was on a shadow it'd look the exact same, some people's brains decided the dress must be on a shadow others decided it must be on a light
snozburger ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:48:39 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It changes colors for me.
El_Impresionante ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:40:26 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just your brain turning on and off.
J0rdian ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:29:10 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can you think its on a shadow when the whole picture is in sun light? I don't understand.
rillip ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:02:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's not. The area behind the dress is clearly much brighter.
Syn7axError ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:05:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The light is behind it, so it wouldn't light up the dress you see at all. It could perfectly be in a shadow regardless.
telcontar42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:11 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is clearly lit from the front as well. You can see shadows casts by folds in the fabric.
Sacrefix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is making me laugh at this point. You are basically saying, "how do you see x when it clearly isn't x".
That's the whole argument! You see black and blue which necessities that the dress must be in full light, while white gold see the foreground as being shaded.
Examples where foreground is shaded and background is bright? Someone standing under an umbrella at the beach.
Wild_Space ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:42 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except you can see the ceiling lights reflecting off the dress.
Sacrefix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:32 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Black blue see the light area as light reflection, white gold see that area as the normal color, while the darker gold area would be perceived as the same gold but more shaded.
Personally, my mind likes to see the foreground as shaded by umbrella, while the background looks like a brightly washed out beach scene.
Archmonduu ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:06:18 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But if you bring the picture into paint and sample the areas that are "black" and "blue" you get white and gold? It doesn't help your eyesight that the dress is blu irl when the actual colors in the actual picture are gold and blue.
In the picture it is clearly gold and white in dark lighting:
http://imgur.com/qFql9AH
LeSpatula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:24:55 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You literally painted a blue and black bar next to it to proof it isn't blue and black?
Archmonduu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:32:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As close as i'll get without loading it up in MATLAB and literally subtracting it from the color black.
http://imgur.com/SDWNSmE
bobloadmire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:03 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that it's gold and white.
This_is_my-username- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel so betrayed. I just can't see it as anything other than white and gold.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like a white and gold dress in a lot of shadow, so the white balance is off. I always thought it was black and blue but I can see how people see it as the other.
Trev_Holland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:54 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just assumed it was a black and blue dress under bright lights because the background looks bright as hell. And it looks like it's in a department store, which are always well lit.
Anyone that sees it as yellow thinks, for some strange reason, the dress is in a shadow. In the middle of a bright-ass store.
amalgam_reynolds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:47 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How was it confirmed? There's no citation on the wiki.
tony1grendel ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:16:14 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's an article with another image of the dress.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/28/science/white-or-blue-dress.html
greengolfballs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:14:52 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even with definitive proof that the dress is black and blue, I can only see it as white and gold.
It's fucking with my head.
groooviee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:06:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just got the black and blue after years! Try staring at the bright spot on the right. Your peripheral vision of the dress will change from white and gold to black and blue.
My mind is actually blown right now.
Gned11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:11 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't quite work for me. I started looking at this from the top and followed the images down, white and gold... white and gold... woman wearing black and blue dress. Huh.
Worked back the way, peeping through a gap in my hands and 'forcing' each step to remain blue and black. Eventually I got up to the original image and managed to get it to 'flip'.
It's still much easier to see as white and gold, but these BB peons aren't crazy.
amalgam_reynolds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
phantacc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:27 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. Holy shitballs. I've always seen the dress as white and gold. When I clicked the first wikipedia article in this thread... there it was in all its white and gold glory. Then I click this new york times article and there is the same picture but now the dress is black and blue to me. And fucking hell if I didn't go back to the wikipedia article and suddenly the dress was black and blue. What the hell brain?!
ARottenPear ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:17:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes there is. The citation linked to this article which contains this tweet from the company that sells the dress.
Crookmeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how it was confirmed. They just went to the dress makers site.
cortesoft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was confirmed by being the way it is.
JurijFedorov ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:58:57 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think there is only one version of the dress. I think it might exist in different colors. Also, the original photo is manipulated and does not show the true colors of the dress.
Syn7axError ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:06:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was only a black and blue version when that photo was taken, however, they did release a gold and white one when it went viral.
MasterEmp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those bastards are trying to trip us up even more.
PlaceboJesus ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:18:35 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly I see it as gold and blue.
I'm assuming the thinner textured lines are the black and the thicker lines are white.
But I see gold and blue. WTF?
Edited: typo, likes to lines
snozburger ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:50:13 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It changes for me depending on how much I focus on the glare. Seems like there is some kind of brain post-processing going on to try and correct for it.
PlaceboJesus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:56:14 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't make it change.
Arctousi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:14 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try squinting, that worked for me anyway.
WeRip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:13 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Either use an image editor and zoom way in, or use your hand to cover all but a small portion of the dress.. make sure to specifically block out the bright background.
xFoeHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But that doesn't make sense to me because the glare is clearly behind the dress and wouldn't be effecting what we see that much.
Bananacheesesticks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:02:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how I see it too. You aren't alone
truemeliorist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:17:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see it as gold and a light blue as well. I have to swing my monitor to an extreme angle to make it look blue and black.
I've even done a color analysis on this monitor using photoshop, and it very definitively fell in the gold/yellow part of the spectrum.
I get that people can see it differently, but if it is black and blue, why do photo tools that are just looking at pixel RGB values showing it as gold?
mdevoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:01 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see the top as a goldish but everything else black and blue. Never could see it the other way.
EatWithPeanutButter ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 22:08:16 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put it in an editor and colour-pick the colours. Most see it as a browny-yellow (... gold, I guess) and light blue because that's what it actually is (in the image).
So I'm happy that I can see the image for what it is rather than putting some assumed context on it.
Of course all of this was probably said 2 years ago.
SillyNonsense ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:40:05 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what annoyed me about how long this thing went on for. You can color pick this image and isolate the colors to get a factual answer easily.
People can have all the fun they want jerking off about brain interpretations but the fact is that due to whatever lighting conditions the photo was taken in, the dress colors are light blue and a dull gold.
Now if you use a color matching tool to compare these results to both interpretations, you arrive at a 58% averaged match for Black/Blue and a 76% match for White/Gold.
OP's image demonstrates how the dress illusion works under ideal and equalized circumstances, but in the real photo, the dress image favored the White/Gold interpretation by 18% (regardless of the actual color of the dress).
Arctousi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:06:33 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet vindication.
Syn7axError ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:07:43 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but the debate was over what the dress actually was, not the colours in the image file.
moush ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:40:39 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it was Black and Blue so some people were right.
truemeliorist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:19:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly how I approached it. Want to get crazy over what color it is? Ok, let's open it in photoshop and use the color dropper to get the exact RGB value. Hey look at that, it's a light blue, and gold. And no, you can't debate that, those are the actual colors of the image, visual illusion doesn't apply.
People got freaking vicious regarding it.
To my eyes it still looks like gold and a light blue.
Chancoop ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:41:02 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing pictured in real life is really going to look white under the color dropper in photoshop. shadows and lighting and light reflection is always going skew it.
KumbajaMyLord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:02:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea if people argued it was a dull gold and light blue instead of arguing it is gold and white, it would be less of a controversy.
The entire problem was the apparent color is the result of the actual color + light color.
What you are measuring in Photoshop is the apparent color. What most people argued about is the actual color.
And for the actual color being gold and white the light would have to have a blueish hue.fir the actual color to be a black and dark blue tone the light would have to have a yellow hue. Which is more common or more likely? A yellow hue light or a blue hue light?
Evisrayle ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:01:15 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The lighting conditions the photo was taken in are clearly bright as day. Literally.
In no situation does the lighting everywhere else in the picture make a gold and white dress look like that.
Hardcorex ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:52:58 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm curious of the statistics of photographers and what color they believe it is. To me it looks blue and black because I can tell it's under a warm lighting that most stores are fond of, and the photo is incorrectly color balanced and exposed. To me I can tell these things due to the contrast of the dress and the background so I then qualify the off color of the dress with the context of the background.
Pistacheeo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:11:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is completely omitting the environment of the photo.
IWantToSayThis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:50:42 on May 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So people's brains that see it white and gold take the image for face value while their brains fail to interpret and infer the real color. Their brains are simpler, dumber in a way. Got it.
s0v3r1gn ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you are seeing what the camera saw. Which is not as good as what human eyes can see. The only reason the illusion exists is because of how poor cameras actually are at seeing full dynamic range.
Aerowulf9 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:33:26 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I wanna know is how do you live in a world where you don't know the colliquial color for 'gold'? It doesnt neccesarily look anything like actual gold but thats exactly what that "brownish yellow" is.
EatWithPeanutButter ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:54:24 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it doesn't tend to be too important unless I'm arguing about dresses on the internet, so I've managed well enough without it
Isord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if you should be proud that your brain is less effective at using context clues to determine reality.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:36:25 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Bacon_Hero ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:37:06 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit that's actually messing with my head
SpaceFrankfurter ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 21:57:10 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just goes to show that the majority of people have something wrong with their brain.
robotjebus ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:13:41 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Buzzfeed users anyway.
youre_real_uriel ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:14:38 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That specific majority especially.
popcornbro02 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:08:02 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this huge disadvantage probably wont let me live a fulfilling life.
Daniel_USA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:19 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How could I ever live with myself.
Daniel_USA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:48 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that just means 2/3rd of buzzfeed poll testers have over-active imaginations.
McBurger ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:11:36 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's strange because back when I saw this the first time it was white and gold. Could NOT see it any other way until after like a week it just clicked, and then I couldn't go back to seeing it as white and gold.
Now after a 1 yr intermission it's back to white and gold again and I cannot get it to be black and blue. Ah well
Visaerian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:43 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I've flicked between seeing the two varients as well, it's kinda weird and makes me feel like I can't trust myself
Awkward_Pingu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was able to see the black/blue by staring at the bright part to the right of it for a while. It's weird, was clearly white/gold, now I'm seeing black/blue.
_Born_To_Be_Mild_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:32 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have only ever seen white and gold the first time I saw it. Ever since its been black and blue. Weird.
zardmander ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:24:42 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk I see gold and light blue...
Andy_Liberty_1911 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:13 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too and I'm pretty offed why everyone else sees the other colors
EnterSober ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:00:39 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, very strange but I see black and blue normally but if I smoke weed it turns yellow and white. It's the oddest thing
gruesomeflowers ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:29:43 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's literally no black anywhere. I don't see how it's possible for you to see that.
Bacon_Hero ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:33:21 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a black dress being affected by lighting
cryo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:55:10 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a very good black, then. I want my dresses made of absolute black bodies.
Crookmeister ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:19:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'sโ definitely a good black. The photo is just washed out.
Someone3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:44:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But that's the point. The dress may be black but the photo has no black anywhere. If you copy the image into paint and query the colours you'll see the dress in the image is clearly a pale blue and gold.
onlyonebread ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:40:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you able to interpret different objects existing in different color contexts? For example, if you were wearing a white shirt and then stepped into a red photo development room, would you describe yourself as wearing a red shirt now?
Or in this picture, would you say the lemon is yellow, or that the lemon is white, yellow and dark orange? Obviously both are true, but there's a difference between describing the lemon in the image and the actual lemon itself.
niicoland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:47:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not the context of this situation tho, it's more like if you were wearing a white shirt in a red photo development room and then you show a picture of the situation to another person, if they answer that the shirt is red, then I think that would be the right answer in their case. Everyone knows that the actual dress is black and blue, the photo? the colors (as in if you pick them in photoshop) are the ones that you can see in the picture, that was the experiment.
Crookmeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just pointing out that the dress is a good black. The comment I replied to implied that the dress wasn't a good black.
sourc3original ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:48 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That color is not gold by any stretch of the imagination.
Daniel_USA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:26 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NO, NO, NOOOOO....
slaps desk That is still white and gold to me!
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it's actually brown and pink
TheCrippleFist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The picture looks like it was overexposed and taken with a shitty camera. That's the reason the black looks so much like gold. It's obvious from the picture that the camera was of poor quality.
lilzilla ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:28:44 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see white and gold because to me it looks like it's in front of a window, and the camera got overwhelmed by the bright background and underexposed the foreground. I've never been able to see blue and black.
And my color vision as excellent, before you ask. Give me a color vision test, I will fucking destroy it.
apsalarshade ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:46:01 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure. Here is your test. What color is the dress?
Hint: not white and gold.
IHateKn0thing ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:48:52 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What color the dress is is irrelevant. What matters is what color the picture is. And it's not black and blue.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:59:04 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Chancoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:16 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That still looks way more white than light blue.
Fishyswaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:27 on May 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is still clearly white and gold to me.
Remi_Autor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:33 on May 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about if I mess it the hell up and put a red rectangle around it?
http://i.imgur.com/L0bs9yl.png
Fishyswaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:43 on May 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very obviously white and gold.
Remi_Autor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:09 on May 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about if I restrict it to the two single most common hues in the image?
http://i.imgur.com/eUWrZBV.png
Fishyswaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:50 on May 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A very light brown and a shaded white.
Wild_Space ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:06:42 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you put the image into photoshop, its gold and blue. Or if you just zoom in it's gold and blue.
IWantToSayThis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:20 on May 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought our eyes and brain were made to interpret and understand the real world based on information. I must have been mistaken.
IHateKn0thing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:08 on May 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Very much mistaken.
lilzilla ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:27:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Har har. You're confusing sense and perception.
Trayf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:53 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Adama0001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:26 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brain is misinterpreting the color based on what it thinks the light is.
Hence why people see it as one or another. Can't remember which one it really is.
Someone3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:47:54 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real dress was black and blue but the photo of it was washed out and if you queried the colours with paint was actually whitish pale blue and muddy-gold.
Adama0001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I remember why it was different. But couldn't recall the specifics of what it was
Oknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What color do you see the dress as on the left side of the right-hand image? Please note that the color of the "black" portions of the dress on the right side of the left dress is not BLACK. The "overlying" yellow tint makes that color seem black in context but it is not if you see that section of the image in isolation. Likewise the far right is not "white" but appears as a white cloth would with reflected blue light.
_tylermatthew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:29 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This image also does a good job of 'proving' that It's a black and blue dress in an overly sunny and yellow environment (like the yellow filter he puts on it in the animation) not a white and gold dress in a dark and blue environment. Seeing the context of the background in that image, i cannot comprehend thinking it was gold and white.
InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:34 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can now only see the as gold and white wtf. This is the most elaborate troll I've ever been bamboozled by.
MasterSandBoxer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:14 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw it gold and white originally and now see blue and black and cant really even remember the gold and white
Someone3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Copy the image of the original meme dress from that linked wikipedia page into paint and use the eye dropper to query the colours. You'll see that it's pale blue and a muddy brown. The original dress may be black and blue in general lighting conditions but the image of it that was circulating all around the internet isn't.
slippy0101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:26 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think my brain is broken as I can only see it as blue and gold.
Firebelley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:54 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I see it as white and gold, and I brought the image into Photoshop and actually sampled the colors. The colors are a very light blue and a dark gold. So I am seeing exactly the colors that the picture is showing.
I understand that the dress is not actually white and gold, but I can't help the fact that I am seeing the colors that are actually in the picture.
I made a gif showing the black/gold color and the fact that it is actually gold in the picture.
untide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:48 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I started seeing it as gold and white....but now I see it black and blue. I read the article first so I knew it was supposed to be black and blue but still couldn't see it until I enlarged the image. Now all I can see is black and blue.
dgdgdgdgcooh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the post we're in right now and cover the right side of the girl in black and blue that might help
IDoThingsOnWhims ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like someone must have zero sense of the intense background lighting being the cause of the color washing on the dress and assume that everything in the photo is exactly like it would appear in real life, in order to see it as gold and white. Even then, looking at the dress colors without context, it looks even more blue and black... So uh.. idk
THEODOLPHOLOUS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is so painstakingly clear-as-fucking-day gold and white to me and I literally do not understand how anyone sees it as black and blue
Like the white part has a light bluish tinge to me but The gold is SO gold and not black
YoshiXIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've found that it seems to be (sometimes) on how much someone uses their phone and what brightness they keep it on. Low, it's blue black. Way up, it's white/gold
I dunno. Sometimes.
Mendican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:18 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the dress photo at the same time as you watch the gif above - both on the same screen at the same time. The dress literally switched from blue and black to gold and white, and now I can't get it to switch back. My mind is blown.
t0m0hawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I legitimately thought I was being fooled by some really slow looping gif somehow disguised as an image. Kept changing when I'd visit another page. Eventually I just sat and watched it and the damn thing just suddenly flipped.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:53 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I first saw this I could only see white and gold. Then somehow my perception of the colors changed and I saw blue and black. I've been trying to change my perception again but I guess once you go blue and black you can't go back.
DThierryD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:02 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine it's in the shadows, and not actually in the same lighting than the background.
porkchop_d_clown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I have literally been having this argument about the color of our cars. Hers is officially silver, but I can see a blue tint to it. Mine is officially charcoal but, again, I see blue in it.
Asking our friends and neighbors about it, it seems like about one in five see the blue - without my suggesting it - but the rest don't see it even if I tell them the cars are blue tinted.
cryo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:18 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not literally. Grab a color picker. The "white/blue" is pretty white, although with more blue in it. The "gold/black" is golden with red, green and less blue.
Bacon_Hero ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:01:15 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes literally. The dress is literally black and blue.
dualaudi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One study suggests it's based on your sleep pattern. If you're a night owl you see it as gold. If morning person you see it blue. (I feel this is based on if you stay up late or sleep early.
https://www.google.com/amp/jezebel.com/the-way-you-saw-the-dress-may-have-something-to-do-with-1794261458/amp
rathat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:59:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a picture explaining it https://i.imgur.com/hxJjUQB.mp4
Douchebag_on_wheels ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:09:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe this will help
Padapoo ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:10:20 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see neither, its just gold and blue to me. Am I Diabled?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:28:11 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've only ever seen blue and gold myself.
PlaceboJesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:41 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see gold and blue too.
I didn't read the full article, but it didn't look like it was a choice.
PM_ME_YOUR_BULBASAUR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:14 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I turn the brightness down on my phone it's blue and black and if I turn it up it becomes gold and blue
Traegs_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:47:21 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because your brain is misinterpreting the context of the image. It looks like the picture is taken in a heavy shadow to you so you see white/gold. Once you realize that it's actually saturated in bright light, it'll look black/blue.
halfar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:35 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how on earth are people seeing heavy shadow, though??
Nick2the4reaper7 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:48:20 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like the lighting is coming from the direction the camera is facing, rather than from behind the camera. I know that's what makes me see it that way, but my brain refuses to see it the opposite way. Not to mention that my brain also refuses to accept that the color black can reflect THAT much light, that it makes it look gold. I don't get it.
Someone3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:33 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's appears white/gold because it actually is whitish-grey-blue and a muddy-gold. There's no black or dark blue in it anywhere. Copy the photo from the linked wikipedia page to paint and query its colours with the eyedropper tool.
Traegs_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:12:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm perfectly aware of the actual color the photograph is presenting. We're talking about what it looks like with varying perceived context.
Your whole argument is going against you anyway. We're talking about whether it's white or blue and you say it's whitish blue, the literal middle ground between white and blue. Muddy-gold (it's really more brown than gold) is basically half way to black too.
Just look how I can turn what you said in the opposite direction:
Someone3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you understand anything of what I'm saying. The original meme dress was black/blue in normal lighting but if you query the colours of the photo they are very close to 'white' and 'gold' and very far from 'black' and 'blue'. Different colours have names and put simply there is a right and wrong answer to what colour the dress is in the photo. What I'm saying is that calling it black/blue is more wrong than calling it white/gold.
If you actually query the colours in paint, the 'whitish-grey-blue' is extremely low saturation. And the 'muddy-gold/brown' colour is of sufficiently high luminosity that it isn't even remotely appropriate to call it 'black'.
Traegs_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:55:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes... I understand that. I remember when it all first went viral.
What you're not understanding is that people can see that the dress was photographed in improper lighting and their brains automatically color correct for that. I'm not arguing over the actual color of the pixels on the photograph, I'm arguing that the perceived color of the dress will change because the perceived context of the rest of the photo will vary between people. By querying the colors in paint, you're removing the context of the rest of the photo that makes the illusion work.
Someone3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:58 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Facepalm
I can't believe you still don't understand. I AM arguing over the actual colours of the dress. Your original reply to a person seeing it as 'white' and 'gold' claimed that they were 'misinterpreting' the image. I'm explaining to you that they aren't misinterpreting anything, they're seeing what's really there and your black/blue brain is the one doing the misinterpreting.
Traegs_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:41 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fuck. I KNOW. I myself see it as white/gold.
I'm talking about WHY THE ILLUSION WORKS. Illusions don't give a fuck about what the actual color is, why would I be talking about the actual colors when I'm talking about an illusion?
Odusei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell me that it's in bright light, and I can keep repeating that out loud to myself while looking at the image, but my eyes don't seem to receive that message.
Traegs_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:33 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not your eyes that need to receive the message, but rather the subconscious part of your brain that deals with color perception. You can't really "tell" it what is right, only wait for it to realize it for itself.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:26:13 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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halfar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:08:52 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i get the blue, and the black, an the gold, but i have absolutely zero idea whatsoever how anybody is seeing the blue as white
rooktakesqueen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:58 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine that it's under very dim, bluish light, washed out by the bright light behind it. What looks like a pale blue becomes white under those conditions.
On the other hand, imagine that it's under very bright, yellowish light, like the background. Then what looks like a pale blue is actually a rich, darker blue. (This is what is actually pictured, but the cues in the image aren't definitive.)
OR, you can just look at the provided gif, and view the dress on the right, which is clearly white and gold under dim lighting conditions.
halfar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The gif and the dress aren't the same. I can see and clearly identify the illusion in the gif. Not at all with the dress.
rooktakesqueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:18 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The gif uses the same colors as the original image. That's the point of it. If you're a Black and Bluer and you want to see what those crazy White and Golders see, just look right. Vice versa, just look left.
Isord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is the dress is very clearly not in dim lighting based on context so it's weird to me that anybody interpreted it as gold and white.
rooktakesqueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What context? You see a dress that is in the foreground and you see the background illuminated by bright light. The foreground isn't necessarily lit the same as the background.
For example. This is a white chair in dim light with bright light illuminating the background. If the foreground lighting were a bit more uniform, and the screen weren't there, it could also be interpreted as a brown chair in the same direct sunlight as the background.
Isord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:53 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The left side and right side have the same lighting, and the dress has the same color temperature as the background which makes it appear to be equally washed out.
Daniel_USA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
only those with hyperactive imaginations can image something that isn't then convince themselves it is the truth even when they have no evidence.
for example: "oh man I remember I saw that shadow that one time and everything had a strange blue purple tint to it because the sun's angle and shit. O man that is totally what is happening right now, but fuck what color is it originally? o well it's obviously white because that would be the only thing that makes sense if that shadow that one time I saw was blueish. Yup, totes got dis solved!"
metatron207 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:12:32 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny, because having just heard of this, I'm convinced that people who say they see it as white and gold are just trying unsuccessfully to gaslight. Even seeing OP it's really hard for me to fathom how you could see it as anything other than blue/black.
Arctousi ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:18:32 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Real talk, not gas lighting and find it very confusing since the reality is that it is black and blue (looking at the original dress it is clearly black and blue), but I perceive that photo as white and gold. I have no illusions of being right, merely questions at why I know that I'm wrong but still cannot perceive it, if that makes sense.
ChamberedEcho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:31 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What color is in the upper right of the original photo?
Arctousi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:48 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The upper left corner looks blueish white. I actually just had an interesting realization though, I checked this under different lighting conditions in my room. Under hard lighting with white fluorescent bulbs I can definitely see it as blue and black very strongly. I can also see it as white and gold though if try and concentrate.
Under soft warm fluorescent lighting (yellowish light bounced off a white wall) the dress is white and gold with no easy way for me to perceive it as blue and black. So I have a repeatable way to currently alter my perception of it. The result was so surprising I honestly thought to check if someone had replaced the images on the wiki so I verified the effect with other images from different sources and got the same result.
ChamberedEcho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:25 on May 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kthanksbye
Arctousi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:29:36 on May 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my bad, I can't read apparently. That upper right looks gold which fades to blue into bright white.
Someone3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're talking about the original meme dress in the linked wikipedia page then copy it to paint and have a look at it with the eye dropper tool. It's actually a whitish pale blue and a muddy gold colour. The real dress in different lighting conditions may appear black and blue but the photo definitely isn't.
metatron207 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I tried. Used the eye-dropper; covered the sides of the picture so only the dress was visible; sought my SO's opinion (she's a gold-and-whiter). I cannot see how that blue is supposed to be white. I can make out how the black could appear as gold, though it seems entirely too obvious from context that it's black, but there's absolutely no way that that blue could be construed as white. Humans are weird.
StoopidSxyFlanders ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:01 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stop fucking with me. There is no way in hell anyone can confuse that very obviously blue colour as being white. Look at the white-space surrounding the photo (the wikipedia background colour). Does that look like the same colour to you? It is 110% blue and black.
cecilkorik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:51 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one is saying the actual color in the image is white. It's clearly blue, and that can be easily measured objectively.
What's happening is that people are arguing over whether the color in the picture means the dress which the picture was taken of is black/blue or gold/white.
The confusion is because either situation is actually plausible depending on whether the dress is being depicted in full sunlight, or in full shade. It is not clear from the context or other cues in the picture which of the following two cases is actually true:
We know for a fact that situation #1 is true, but the visual parts of the human brain don't have access to that fact. They have to make their own judgement based on what they see in the picture, and it turns out that some people's visual process judges the dress as being in the shade. Their brain interprets the dress as white/gold as a result.
bond2016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same
sourc3original ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dress was shown to be actually black and blue???
domsays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:34 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Still can't see it
tony1grendel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the image is small, like in the wiki article and I look away but still see it in the corner of my eye, I see blue and black.
But if I look directly at it again, I see gold and white again.
I know lots of people are probably replying to you. Just wanted to give my insight.
Mickus_B ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I cannot even see a shade of blue. My eyes see something that looks like shiny white vinyl. I can't even force myself to perceive blue anywhere in the picture. It's so strange knowing it's my eyes that are wrong.
Edit: Holy shit! I just held this picture up against my leg in blue jeans, and now I see it blue and black.
Pure eyeball fuckery going on here.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:46:15 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how anyone could think it's gold and white
AlbinoVagina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:01 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see the blue and black if I squint my eyes really hard
cryo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:06 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me tio
eaglessoar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:56 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same, even after this gif
Shalaiyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best way to force it is to completely close one eye and neaaaaaaaarly close the other. You'll see the blue/black just barely. Otherwise I also just see gold/white.
comalin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:01 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you change your perception of how light or dark the room is, you can see both pretty easily.
imadethistoshitpostt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see gold and blue
doovecraig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. Can anyone help me see the black and blue?
jordanlund ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clicked the link - gold and white. Scrolled down, read the article, scrolled back up, black and blue.
Instantbeef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've only ever seen it as black in blue but is the white you see like a clean white. Is it about the same as the white on the Wikipedia page or is it a dirty white?
BZLuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:13 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GET OUT. NOW.
TybrosionMohito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:29 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tfw you think it's blue and gold...
farts_are_awesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was the same way until I squinted real hard and and looked through my eye lashes and it looked black and blue. Now that's all I see.
BeBenNova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:40 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit dude, i never saw it black and blue either until now
What i did was look up the wikipedia article linked above asking myself how people even could see it a different color because it was just so clearly white and gold
Then i took to google and found this picture https://i.imgur.com/tnelgKK.jpg the left picture was still 100% white and gold
UNTIL IT WASN'T. I looked at the picture with the 3 versions for like 30 seconds, opened the wikipedia article again and it was just black and blue....to a point where i feel like that wikipedia article is a troll from the 50/50 subreddit
dusmeyedin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:01 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the same. Every time I see it, it looks gold and white to me.
It's also an ugly dress that I'd never look at twice without the hoopla surrounding its color.
junkk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try covering up all but a small, dark part of the dress. I got the bottom left corner to look blue and black, and then the whole thing was blue and black for a second.
Michaelgamesss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:40 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can only see blue and some pisscolored gold
AlvinGT3RS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:21 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How
hopsinduo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:02 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you blur your eyes at the right distance in can look blue and black
theorymeltfool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed.
Also, if you take the original picture, put it in MS Paint, and use the "match color" option, it comes out with shades of gold and white.
I know the dress is black and blue in real life, but in this picture it's gold and white.
no_prehensilizing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:02 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's gold and white, then what color is that in the upper right hand background?
0xD153A53 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:46 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This fascinates me because I've only seen it as black and blue...Try as I might, I've never experienced the white/gold image.
GenuineDickies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:22 on August 25, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My GF and my neighbor also see it gold and white. I saw it blue and black, then later that night it switched to white and gold on me... I revisit the picture now and again to see what mood it's in because I see it in both.
JurijFedorov ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:57:29 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see it in gold and white only. But since people said it was black and blue I decided to see what the colors were in Photoshop. Guess what. It's 100% not black and blue. The white is not paper white though. It's actually too dark to be called white. But it's not blue either!
manlycaveman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The actual dress itself is blue and black.
JurijFedorov ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:14:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe. I don't know. At least the original photo is very edited. Which makes the true colors completely unimportant. It could be purple for all I care. The photo is edited into brown/grey. That's just a fact. You can look up the colors in Photoshop. There is no blue or black there. People seeing black and blue are seeing something that is not factual. It's their mind playing a trick on them. Unless you are saying that Photoshop is lying to us.
manlycaveman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're missing the point. When people say they see a blue or white dress what they mean is that they are interpreting the picture one of two ways: a blue/black dress with blown out lighting or a white/gold dress in a shadow. The dress is actually blue and black. If anyone sees the dress as white/gold that just means their brain is misinterpreting the scene (people keep saying it's a white/gold dress in the shade). In reality, it's just a blue/black dress with the brightness fucked up in the image.
Take a look at this guy sitting in the shade. Would you say he's wearing a white (or possibly light grey) shirt or would you say it's the color of blue jeans (blue-grey-ish)? If you copy the picture in photoshop or paint and use the eyedropper tool to select a color on his shirt you will find the blue-grey denim color. Because you can see he's sitting in the shade, you know that will affect how you see the color of his shirt and so your brain will try and figure out what color his shirt would really be.
JurijFedorov ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:22:16 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I see that his shirt is not white on the photo. It's not white. But then again, I don't know how it is IRL. I think it's white because I think the shadows darken it. But I am only like 80% sure.
If someone told me it was grey IRL I would believe that easily. While that dress is clearly not black and blue IRL. Because that's impossible. It would be just as unlikely for it to be purple IRL. Unless... the colors were changed in Photoshop. There is just so much shadows can do to a dress color on a photo. You will never take a picture of a black and blue dress and make it seem white and gold. I can't really see why you would even think it's possible.
manlycaveman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:28 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was the entire point of the gif in the OP. It shows how a blue dress under warm lighting produces the same color as a white dress in a cool shadow.
AxezCore ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:35:35 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never seen it as anything but white and gold, but this link it's obvious blue and black to me.
tante_ernestborgnine ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:21:57 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It looks clearly white and gold to me! Crazy.
halfar ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:10:10 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the good news is that it's not your eyes that are fucked up; it's your brain.
nods agreeably
tante_ernestborgnine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:02 on May 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good news everyone!
Kate2point718 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the opposite for me. I've always seen it as blue and black, but when I opened the link just now it seemed clearly gold and white.
Kokosnussi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:00:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
same
noodlez ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:02:49 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FWIW I see gold and white when there's direct sunlight around. Indoors or at night, back/blue
snozburger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:53:16 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar for me, seems like brain trying to correct.
hbgbz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:17:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An hour ago when I opened the thread, the dress was obviously white and gold. I picked up my phone again, and now it is black and blue. WTF
bigmak40 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Room lighting conditions can effect your perception on it.
hbgbz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:28 on May 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured that out later. First time was in full sun, second time was in windowless room.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:57:05 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
looks white and gold to me too but i've never seen it before.
RecurringZombie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:15 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have always seen the dress as black and blue. I just showed this picture to my son and he repeated three times that it is "white and yellow." I don't know what to feel anymore.
wurdtoyer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:42 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, then I went and took a shower, and it was back to black and blue.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:53 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was gold and white, but I presumed it was poor lighting and it was actually white and black.
Wrong on both accounts. I am blind.
jonnyohio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I saw it go from white and gold to gradually blue and black right while I was looking at it. Was the strangest thing ever.
Blesbok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you on a different monitor? I wonder if some of this has to do with the screen color.
scotishstriker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a different monitor, but now all I see is blue. When I first looked at the image again I forgot what color it was and it looked yellow, then I clicked it into a new window and it looked blue again.
flyin3mones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:59 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw blue and gold. I still do.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:53 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. When it was first a thing I only ever saw black and blue. Just now, looking at it again, I switched and saw the white and gold. It was crazy and I had trouble going back. A minute or so later and I go to double-check and it's back to the correct black and blue. At least I now understand.
TakeltSleazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:31 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freaking me out. I've always seen black and blue, but saw gold and white for the first time too. Read your comment and went back and looked again. It was black and blue. Thought the whole thing was bullshit til now.
zaphod42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:56 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only ever see blue and gold...
imnotquitedeadyet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:02 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only ever saw it as black and blue, but once for a split second I saw it as gold and white. Then right back to black and blue. It was weird
AdeonWriter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:46 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please help me see it as white and gold. I've only ever been able to see black and blue no matter how hard I try.
scotishstriker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:56 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was the first time I've seen it in over a year, I forgot what color it was island it became gold and white, now I can only see blue and black. You have to forget it's blue to see it.
prozit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same, but then I looked away and back and it was blue and black again.
x3r0h0ur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get this, I saw gold and white, and while staring at it in the first 5 minutes, it shifted to blue and black. I've only occasionally seen it white/gold for split seconds. My brain is tripped out.
Mikeismyike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:47 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've only been able to force it gold and white once and as soon as I realized I saw it changed it snapped back to being black.
wmil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:37 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if there's daylight in the room I see gold and white, if it's dark I see blue and black.
Feebedel324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First time I saw it, I was adamant it was gold and white. Now I can only see black and blue. It weird me out.
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IGuessIUseRedditNow ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:19:09 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who sees it as light blue and dark yellow?
Sacrefix ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:27:24 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More consistent with the white gold camp I think. For me the distinction is: do you see it as a dress in the shade or a dress in the sunlight.
Wal_Mart ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:48:28 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, but that doesn't make sense because it's pretty clearly overexposed based on the blown out background.
More likely it's a physiological thing
XTornado ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:38:06 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is that to me for example it looks like the light comes from behind the dress so this side we see is on the shadow. It's not true but that's how my brain interprets it.
Wal_Mart ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:35 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting perspective, I could see how it might look like that. I'd be interested to see what your score is on this test.
Sacrefix ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:21:55 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I scored zero; it's a matter of perspective, not some form of color vision deficiency.
Jess_than_three ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a zero, and initially saw the dress as white and gold under significant shade with strong backlighting behind it - I took it as being in a tent, near its opening, actually. I couldn't understand how anyone could possibly see it as blue and black.
Having seen the actual dress on Amazon as well as numerous comparisons like the one in the OP, I'm no longer able to see it as white and gold at all.
It's not physiological at all, any more than the chessboard illusion is - it's about the assumptions you make in judging how the seen is lit. It's perception, not sensation.
XTornado ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:43 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My score is 0.
Daniel_USA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:01 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
got a zero. male 30. black and blue
Fishyswaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:26 on May 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is clearly useless 0 and I see it as white and gold.
Sacrefix ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:17:54 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That just means you are in the sunlight camp. I can't help but see that the dress is in the shade and we are just seeing a very bright unshaded background.
I've tried hard, I can't make myself see the dress as being in the light.
Wal_Mart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:24 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you check out the wikipedia page there are actually a lot of scientific studies about this that could he an interesting read. I haven't checked them out but I might after I finish finals.
Jess_than_three ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does this help? It is the actual, literal dress in question.
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-02/27/12/enhanced/webdr07/original-21409-1425058705-24.png
Sacrefix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:54:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny enough, it doesn't help at all. I've heard plenty of times that the gold I see is actually black and the white I see is blue, but that information doesn't give me a perspective shift (and I've started at this dumb thing and willed myself for something like 15 minutes).
I think the only time that could let me see it 'correctly' is if somehow the image could be zoomed out showing that the foreground is obviously in full light. Otherwise all my mind sees is a white and gold dress in the shade.
Jess_than_three ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird! :)
78523965412369874123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's taken with flash, with a mirror behind it reflecting the flash.
IGuessIUseRedditNow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:40 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shade
Embla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, That's a distinction I don't really understand and haven't thought about til now. You know it's a dress, you can see it's at a mall, and it's not something sold at hot topic... So it necessarily is taken in the light not the shade. I guess I just don't understand how the assumption would be "my understanding and knowledge of photography tells me the object is in the shade"... But then toss common sense out the window.
It makes zero practical sense for the picture to be taken in the shade.
That said, the first time I saw it I thought it was blue/gold. I can see it as blue/black, but for the life of me I can't see it as white/gold, except in the demos of the phenomenon.
Sacrefix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:13 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see white gold, and it looks like the dress is shaded while the background is blown out. I know it's not btw, but no matter what, I can't make my eyes see the dress as being fully in the light.
I'm kind of confused why people can't at least understand why people see it differently. The whole point of this gif is to show how the colors can look different based on different factors, including perceived shade.
chokfull ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:40:32 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, technically speaking, those are the actual colors in the photo, so you're not wrong.
KingCrabmaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think when people say Gold and White that is usually what they mean. For colors such as its slightly grey off blue people tend to "round down" to colors such as White being how they define it.
Also Gold is an easy word to use for muddy yellows. Seeing it as light blue and dark yellow is indeed simply just seeing it for the literal color values in the image.
LaXandro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's not just slightly off-white, it's blatantly blue, like an unclicked link on this sub. But the other half is gold.
k_linz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:13:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always seen it as blue and gold. No white, no black. ALWAYS Blue and Gold. I don't understand how people see anything else.
KingCrabmaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:40 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The color values are exactly what I said it is, a slightly grey off blue. It is quite literally a middle value between grey, blue, and white. Again, a lot of people "round down" to the lighter color description of white or grey.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blue and brownish.
RamenJunkie ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:01:45 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, is that an animated gif? Because it was white and gold then I scrolled down then it was blue and black
x3r0h0ur ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:19:16 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to me the first time I saw this thing.
colovianfurhelm ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:31:57 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see how people can see it as being in the shade with all the bright light around it.
adaminc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:33:26 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you never seen a picture of someone standing in the shade, while its a sunny day? The background highlights are usually blown out. That is what it looks like in the original photo, to me at least.
b0w3n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The gradient near the collar shows it almost fully lit head on, though.
adaminc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:19 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dress is wavy, so the gradient comes from a shadow being cast by the left side of the dress being more forward, or "higher" if it was laying down.
If it was lit head on, and I see it as gold and white, I would expect the white to be much brighter.
InsidiousMind15 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:07:11 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just had the weirdest mindfuck when I opened that, saw it as gold and white, read a bit of the wiki, scrolled back up and it's black and blue.
FUUUUUUUIUUUUCL
CowZix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:40 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw it as gold and blue. Iunno
bluejaysfan21 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:03 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one that sees blue and gold?!?!?!
xFoeHammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No matter how hard I try I can't see it as gold.
Comet5050 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you respond to his comment with that instead of making your own new comment?
imjustjealous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually did both. Because I am a dirty karma whore.
Comet5050 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:08:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, enjoy the karma
Lokol187 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:48 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still kinda blows my mind. I seen that picture in your post as white and gold, then read the wiki and seen it was black and blue and then looked at it again and couldnt see the white and gold afterwards....
9DAN2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:46 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not this again...
coldfusionpuppet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone own the freaking dress and have they worn it on the news somewhere to silence that half that swears it's black n blue?
whiskeydreamkathleen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:55 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i've never been able to see anything but black and blue. maybe because the first few times i saw it, it was accompanied by a picture of the dress on their website as proof that it's really black and blue. now my brain is just like "nah you saw a good picture, it's not white."
GenuineDickies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Black magic fuckery. I first saw it as black and blue, now I see white and gold. My GF sees white and gold and my son sees blue and black. WTF?!?!
Lyberatis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:28 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to see white and gold but looking at it now after so much timeโฆ I can finally see the truth.
ScienceGaveMeAHadron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand, for it to be an "illusion" they would have to be the same colour yet they are objectively not.
As with the dress, I think the fairest way to do it is use a computer which will just output the colours as the RGB/CMYK/Whatever values the program uses and its clear that a) the colour in the original picture [right/left] are different and for the dress it's a brown-ish colour and blue-ish colour. any hue is probably due to lighting and camera.
http://i.imgur.com/GINzqPn.png
OldSchoolRPGs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:46 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So when I click your link I see the dress as white and gold. Then I click the wiki link above and see the same thing. But if I then scroll down and then back up it becomes black and blue...
rathat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what you mean.
ScienceGaveMeAHadron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for it to be an illusion the colours would have to be the same left and right however they aren't the same. Therefore it isn't an illusion.
ssigea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it really the same color, or does the gif change colors?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:45 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FG_Regulus ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:38:30 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? No, it's an optical illusion that plays off how our brain balances lighting in images. It has nothing to do with the "qualia" of color.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:48 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FG_Regulus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:06 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are still simply tricks of the light. It has nothing to do with subjective perceptions. And where you draw a cutoff between blue and purple is wholy irrelevant to actually observing entirely different colors than others.
The way our brain balances colors can be fooled and this is just one of those cases. It just so happens that there are two ways of balancing this image and so we get a 50/50 split on what people report seeing.
Did you even watch the GIF? The input you receive from your visual processing changes in front of your eyes. Your idea of blue and white didn't swap, it was just how your brain balanced the image for you. And nor is it out of focus or over exposed!
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:56 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FG_Regulus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:37:12 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's not an opinion, you are just factually wrong. This GIF is demonstrating the same exact effect in a way that allows them to show both sides of the effect. In the original photo, your brain can only pick one.
rathat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:24 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more our brain adapts our perception of the color based on context. Those who thought it was in a shadow saw white and gold and those who thought it was in the light saw black and blue. Which is what the example above is showing. Notice the filters on the dress on each side are the colors of sunlight and shadows. Here's a video with some examples https://youtu.be/PN1NAiM55hU
[deleted] ยท 1140 points ยท Posted at 18:11:29 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ph0X ยท 324 points ยท Posted at 19:22:46 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best part is when you move it yourself slowly between the two and see it slowly change in your head. Truly a mindfuck.
Bonus exercise: See how far away from the dress you can convince your brain that the piece you cut is a certain color.
Inimitable ยท 313 points ยท Posted at 20:00:44 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/4ojzKlX.png
Ph0X ยท 311 points ยท Posted at 20:02:06 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When it's the middle, for me, it works almost like the "spinning ballerina illusion gif"
If I look left, the middle one matches the left one, if I look right, the middle one matches the right one. And I can get my brain to switch between the two just like that. But purely looking at the middle, I have a very hard time making it switch by myself.
TThor ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 21:46:32 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbKw0_v2clo
Fun fact, if you have difficulty seeing the illusion, you might have schizophrenia :D
https://www.wired.com/2009/04/schizoillusion/
otterom ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 21:52:22 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was pretty fun! Haha!
...haha
...ha
cough
_tylermatthew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:11 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The article also mentions drug use can sometimes cause the illusion to lose it's effect, so if you're high, you might not be crazy.
TwizzlerKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:02:40 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that would explain it then.
petertree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:19 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/totallynotschizo
TobiasCB ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:11:24 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing! I'm not schizophrenic. :D
JimmerUK ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:48:53 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, we are.
Artyloo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:52:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
schizophrenia does not equal split personnalities
waltjrimmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:31 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, sure, YOU'D SAY THAT! Always trying to tell me what to do...
DooDooRoggins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:11 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure you're not! We're just your loner friends who only talk to you.
Ph0X ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:21:34 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A much better demonstration of this is when it's static and you move your head, and it looks like it's following you wherever you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4QcyW-qTUg
secaedelcielo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:40 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank jeezus I'm not high right now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:28 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I have to make one of these to mess with my kids.
semperverus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so if I'm not high, and can't see the illusion unless I'm specifically forcing myself to, do I have schizophrenia?
TThor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:52 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch this and try to make yourself not see the illusion. http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/fcs-hollowFace/chaplin.mp4
If you can easily ignore the illusion, it might be worth looking at if you show any symptoms of schizophrenia
semperverus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:54 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, it's pretty easy. Default is hollow mask look, even with the higher quality image. I can force it to be the illusion by choice, but it's something I have to actively do (not all that hard honestly).
TThor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are probably fine, but do take a minute to look over the symptoms of schizophrenia, https://psychcentral.com/disorders/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-symptoms/
It could potentially show some other similar brain abnormality, including other forms of psychosis, alcoholism, and I wouldn't be surprised if lack of sleep could contribute.
semperverus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:04 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lack of sleep would be my first thought because I sleep like shit when I have to follow "normal people schedule".
This is how I feel most of the time when work doesn't force me to get up at 8am.
Inimitable ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:05:47 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can make these colors sort of melt into the other looking at this one in the middle. But the ballerina one I've never gotten to switch without looking away.
DoesNotChodeWell ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:22:44 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me the easiest way to make it switch is to look at the shadow of the foot that's closer to the ground, I can sort of 'will' it to switch directions that way.
youre_real_uriel ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:19:48 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The linked image doesn't even remotely resemble the right side (white and yellow) dress to me, even if I cover up the left side completely, it still looks like washed out purple and black. Whereas the ballerina slips easily into whatever rotation I try to imagine, the dress illusion doesn't "switch over" until it's literally overlapping the yellow coloring to demonstrate that it's identical.
Similar illusions I guess, but my brain has a much harder time with the color one.
Isord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:23:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can cover up the far left dress and lighting, leaving only the full right dress and the slice visible, and the slice still looks black and blue.
Christyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:52 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This fucked me up...
JennyBeckman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is doing my head in.
Ermaghert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:29 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
F* ME! I've been staring at this for 5 minutes and I am so amazed on HOW STRONG this illusion is!
ThatOtherGuy_CA ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:59:52 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fuck, now it's blue and yellow
theseekerofbacon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:18 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This has literally been the only time it's worked for me.
But I only see blue and black briefly before it fades to yellow and white
Squibbles01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:37 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, if I look at it with my peripheral vision it looks black and blue and my center vision loss like white and gold.
sugardeath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:59 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's opposite for me.
untide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone needs to fix this obvious bug.
SmokeFrosting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:55 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking kill me if this isn't a gif
Javanz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Schroedinger's Dress
Vandechoz ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:49:59 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got around 90% of the way. Then I got it stuck as the other color and made it 90% of the way back. Damn it.
clocks212 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:48:35 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. My color is sticky and changes pretty fast.
apsalarshade ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:38:19 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should consult a doctor.
SnideJaden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:31 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It appears to "jump" and be choppy when it rest literally right above white and gold. Otherwise, its black and blue the whole time. I can spin the shadow ballerina in any direction no problem.
fritz236 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:12:40 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The difference between this (because I just did it and it fucking worked, which blew my mind since I've never seen anything BUT dark blue/black) and the picture of the dress is that you have enough information around the dress with the lighting to know what it should be.
rnelsonee ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:29:00 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to start a whole thing about it, but I saw white and gold because I assumed the dress was in a shadow (for some reason), like it was under a canopy. If they had shown a zoomed out or uncropped picture, I think it would have been more obvious it was in full sunlight, and therefore wouldn't have become such a phenomenon.
zanotam ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:56:17 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the background is blaring with light? LIke, washed out and shit.
greengolfballs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:48:39 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think everyone agrees the background is absolutely bathing in light, no confusion there. But where my brain goes wrong is it thinks the foreground object is in shadow, much like the subjects in this photo, and under this assumption it compensates for an underexposed dress. So where you see a heavily-lit overexposed blue dress, I see a poorly-lit underexposed white dress.
zanotam ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:11:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I get that, I just.... I guess my real problem with understanding is why that would happen is it's clearly involving heavy flash photography to the point that whateve ris in the background is reflecting the flash. Like, even when I try I can't convince my brain to correct based upon the assumption that the background is the only thing lit because then the rest of the picture would only be interpretable as "for some reason someone has a fucking flood light they're shining from behind the dress and towards the camera" which just... no....
greengolfballs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I picture it being midday in some vaguely low-latitude country, let's say Morocco, and the photographer is inside the canopy of a shady street stall, and without thinking about lighting decided to take a shot of the dress against an extremely bright background. Didn't even get the ISO settings right. Amateur!
rnelsonee ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:37:14 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that was the background though. The dress was in the foreground, and as speaking only for myself, I thought the dress was under some sort of canopy. I felt that just based on the colors it looked like it was in a shadow, and it's because of all that bright light that I thought the exposure was messed up.
zanotam ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:04 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Er... but why? Flash photography is pretty standard and the intense washing out of everything but the ground would be reeeeeally hard ot get without flash photography and in this case I've been told it looks like that because there was indeed something reflecting the flash in the background.
fatclownbaby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:59 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is in a shadow and it straight up looks like it's in a shadow. Why you getting all over this dudes dick for thinking it's in a shadow?
78523965412369874123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's taken with flash, with a mirror behind it reflecting the flash.
Cendeu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. It's like people have never taken pictures or something.
I understand seeing gold/white immediately, but once you look at the background it's obvious. The picture is completely washed out hardcore.
asdhgfadf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:24 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So? That just means it's brightly lit, it says nothing about whether it's 10 am or 2 pm (sun-wise).
iamonlyoneman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
being that the picture is absolute shit. Shadows on a white sidewalk in daylight are light blue. Fuck this picture.
Panda_911 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:31:58 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I juts want to try and coming to comment section is always a good idea before trying. You saved the time.
kyle1elyk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did the same on my phone, I had moved it back and forth maybe 50 times trying to make my mind accept it
postmodest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What you should do is isolate:
If you flip through them right, you can get half-blue dress or blue legs.
Mikeismyike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:32 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could have just put a screenshot into paint...
XERXESai ยท 191 points ยท Posted at 19:48:49 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this one illustrates the same concept quite well too - the brain is mad yo.
GlassActress ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 20:23:41 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit
Edit: holy fuck http://i.imgur.com/Xkef1zV.png
ehood182 ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 20:33:33 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This seems to imply that our brain uses surrounding context to determine colors.
S_Bundy ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:53:35 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my cognitive psychology class I learned about some assumptions that we make to deal with stuff like this. Basically, the mind assumes that the brightest object around is white, and the darkest object around is black. So that's why, even though the color is exactly the same, we use the other colors around to perceive how bright or dark it is.
thwartted ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:39:42 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also why if you are drawing or painting a person you should never use white for the whites of their eyes. most of the time the eye will be in shadow and so impossible to be truly white. that's why if you do use pure white it looks uncanny and unnatural.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:00:18 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely does. I've seen pictures of "red strawberries" that had zero red in them, but by contrast appeared it in a heavily green-washed image.
LoZfan03 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:31:58 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You betcha they do, it's called Color Constancy. Brains are awesome. Your brain wants to know what color (and shape and size) something actually is regardless of context, so it goes through processing kind of like white balancing a camera. When context clues are unclear or misleading like with the dress, it makes its best guess and tends to stick with that until convinced otherwise.
no_prehensilizing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:10:58 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the best example is a projector screen.
What color is a projector screen? White. Now light it up with a blank projection and what color is it? Still white. Now put up a slide with some plain text on it and what colors are the words and letters? Black. But that "black" is the same color as when we said the unlit projector screen was white.
_Lady_Deadpool_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it does. A color by itself is just seen by that color, but the colors around it and perceived lighting make us assume it's something else. Artists know this quite well.
As an example, here you can easily tell she has blonde hair and light skin even though the actual colors are orange and dark green
helix400 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 23:05:17 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one still amazes me.
GlassActress ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 00:15:33 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay no way, I'm not that stupid
Edit: oh goddammit http://i.imgur.com/N7QO1ef.png
tickettoride98 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:03:37 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why eyewitness testimony is often highly suspect. Sometimes what you saw isn't reality, as strange as that sounds.
Bidonculous ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:50:46 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, many times a witness will give testimony of a robbery or a murder but not realize it was actually an optical illusion
tickettoride98 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:56:03 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I meant things like the color of a car or the color of the clothing the person was wearing, or identifying the person. Human perception is demonstrably fallible as these illusions show, in addition to human memory also being flawed.
perplex1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:38:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what the fuck
Tensuke ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:47:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn my eyes!
Twitch92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:03 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too late.
tombkilla ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:07:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
omg you are so much fun today
Remi_Autor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's the color if you remove the surrounding context.
http://i.imgur.com/2bTj1wN.png
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I focus on the one above they look the same color to me.
But this one fucks with my brain.
wbbeeson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:09:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait...so what color are they actually?
Mintastic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's gray pretty much.
NeonBodyStyle ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:26:24 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to make some weird gang signs with my hands to cover up the rest of the checkerboard and isolate the two boxes, but we came to the same conclusion.
LeSpatula ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:00:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those will blow your mind.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:10 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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GlassActress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:42 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have 2 minutes before it applies the asterisk
CaffeinatedGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:40 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Colloquially called a ninja edit.
kyle1elyk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
thepotatoman23 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:48:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alternatively, the brain is far smarter than we give it credit for, being able to automatically compensate for shadows like that in a way that makes the thing under the shadows much clearer to see.
Velaurius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:54 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit dude,
MY MIND !!!@!@!@
dircs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:21 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
gthrift ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 17:44:37 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what color is it originally?!?!?
GroceryRobot ยท 552 points ยท Posted at 18:12:06 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try not to see the change in color. Only realize the truth. There is no color. Then you will see it is not that dress that changes, it is only yourself.
Schrockwell ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 18:16:09 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa.
RanoseValcross ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 18:19:50 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know color theory.
Dryu_nya ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 18:45:50 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Show me.
vancity- ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 19:44:05 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stop trying to paint me and paint me!
walksalot_talksalot ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:30:14 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe it.
Saucyminator ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:09:30 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paint this.
flukshun ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:34:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...No.
color illusions stop
parsonskev ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:25:37 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it possible to learn this power?
swinefluis ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:39:44 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not from a Jedi
Roland1232 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:48 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know kung fu.
El_Impresionante ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:15 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have a cookie.
dhgaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:57 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. My mind just wrapped around a spoon.
soulstealer1984 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 18:40:47 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/iamneoandthisisdeep
novaMyst ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:37:12 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disappointing.
Ree81 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:06:37 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:17:43 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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woahmanitsme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah i think he knows... the subreddit link is "i am neo and this is deep", its possible your brain filled in "14" instead of neo out of habit
cortesoft ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:14:26 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the original 'the dress' picture, it was black and blue.
lazyslacker ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:37:33 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The blue/white color is this one and the yellow/black color is this one. So the answer is I still have no idea, but they seem to be more blue and yellow rather than black and white. At least without another color nearby to mess with your sense of white balance.
Unidangoofed ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:11:28 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The physical dress itself is actually blue and black.
rathat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:04 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And in bright sunlight.
Redditis4virgins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:54 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if people with TN panels give different answers than those with IPS / PLS panels.
Deto ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:06:38 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's no original (in this picture at least): it's a completely symmetric situation.
Start with some normal lighting conditions, and you have
Then, let's say that we have lighting which modifies colors. Call this a function on the original color set. Let's call F(x) the act of adding light and G(x) the act of casting a shadow.
This image just shows that:
alsyapal07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:40 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice. No worries if not, but could you explain why it wouldn't make sense to add or subtract the light/cast shadow instead of multiply it? Thanks!
Deto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:52 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually trying to just be more general than that and represent F(x) and G(x) as functions that alter the input color profile in some way. Adding/subtracting probably makes sense for those functions, though more accurately, you'd have to add/subtract a wavelength-specific amount if you're modeling the color profile of the light-source.
alsyapal07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:31 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man! I almost feel like this comment should be on the top. It actually breaks down the confusion surrounding this. I think the main problem people have is they know the solution is simple, but they are not used to explaining simple things in such a broken-down manner.
zombieregime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or throw a square of tint over it till they match, like they did with this image.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:52 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blue and black
AdmiralMikey75 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw the website that was selling the dress back when it first happened, it's blue and black. If you notice, the picture that everyone was looking at is really washed out, so it could go either way, but on the page it was being sold from, it was clearly a deep blue and black.
PerfectlyCromulent ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:31:56 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The original cut piece is yellow and blue. The pic on the left is of a black and blue dress, but there's a yellow filter over half of it where the cut in the gif was taken from. That yellow filter makes the black turn yellow and changes the shade of the blue, but it's still blue. Similarly, the pic on the right side is a yellow and white dress with a blue filter covering half. The blue turns the white to blue and changes the shade of the yellow, but it's still yellow. So the piece being moved is yellow and blue and the halves of the dresses with filters over them are the same shades of yellow and blue.
buzzcuttt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong, take a picture from this gif and drag it yourself, there is no filter
PerfectlyCromulent ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:17:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. There are colored blocks overlayed over half of each of the images. The areas with each of the overlays have the same colors, whereas the areas without the overlays are black and blue or yellow and white.
SuperSmokingMonkey ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 19:13:55 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cross your eyes and align the images.
same color.
s4in7 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:49:16 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Annnnd I'm crosseyed forever now.
ForceBlade ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:42 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did the wind change?
My parents said that all the time lol
Taalen ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:17:48 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still see them as being different colors when I do.
FolkSong ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:42:53 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just tried it, saw a 3D sailboat.
jama211 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:27:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for this, this was an interesting experiment, I could get them to switch from one to the other this way.
Velaurius ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:50:30 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fUCK THAT dress,
When I went to sleep I saw it yellow and white started to post that,
When I woke up I saw it black and blue and I was 100% sure that someone changed the picture,
Pls let it die.
SoundOfDrums ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's literally someone showing us something under a colored light, people ignoring visual context and memeing about it. So frustrating.
justinkasereddditor ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:47:31 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the future there will be two religions the church of yellow and gold and the church of black in blue and I imagine the fighting will be never ending
iamonlyoneman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well it was confirmed as black/blue so
FolkSong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:38:26 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people today hold religious beliefs that have been disproven, such as the Earth being 6000 years old.
iamonlyoneman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:33 on May 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The age of the earth to the contrary notwithstanding ;) the retailer of the Dress has stated it is black and blue, as well as being available in other colors (including white) . . . but not with gold trim.
FolkSong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:59 on May 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You missed the point. The Earth has been dated to 4.5 billion years but that doesn't stop people from believing something it's only 6000. So evidence that the dress is blue and black would not necessarily stop people from joining the church of yellow and gold.
waltjrimmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:19 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does the church of black and blue get to beat people up?
justinkasereddditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:46 on May 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It can be what ever kind of church you want it to be just so long as it hate gold and white
cascer1 ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 16:45:35 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't be starting this shit again
slick8086 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:30:55 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get what's confusing.... the blue dress with a yellow filter looks the same as a yellow dress with a blue filter? Makes sense to me.
rowanbladex ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:46:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no filter though. Its just lighting/surrounding light/color
slick8086 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:56:21 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you see those rectangles? Those are filters. If it was real life they would be tinted plastic film. These are digitally simulated filters.
piano_room ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:24:59 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those squares represent shadow/light. If they were filters, the cut piece would change colors/tint along the lines of the "filter." But you can see the colors stay constant as it crosses the lines. Therefore, not filters.
Edit: i meant shadow and light, not just shadow
slick8086 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:43 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They clearly do not. There is one uniform grey background. You can see the tint of the filter over that background. The one on the left is yellow and the one on the right is blue.
That logic disproves your own hypothesis as well because if they were shadows the cut piece would change color as it moved in and out of the shadows as well.
The better explanation for why the cut piece doesn't change color is that the creator didn't bother to animate that aspect of the demonstration.
piano_room ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:58 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I misspoke. What I meant to say is that the yellow square represents light, and the darker grey/blue square represents shadow.
You are right in that they are "filters" applied over the girl/dress, but that was only during the original drawing phase, which could be achieved in a sophisticated drawing program like Photoshop, which supports layers.
However, the gif above is no longer in the drawing phase, but in demo phase. This demo could be made in MSpaint if you want, which does not support layers. The gif itself is just cutting out and moving a still image, with no "filters" or layers to change colors as they move. So again, they cut piece does not change because there is no active shadow or layer. Only a single 2D static image.
Edit: I think the point of misunderstanding is that you are assuming that digital filters are active in this gif. But you can check that they are not by taking a screencap of the gif, and trying it for yourself in MSpaint.
Edit 2: I think "the dress" is a great phenomenon to study for conflict resolution. It is a phenomenon that causes nearly incommunicable and different experiences between people ("how can you not see that it's ____ and ____!?") which can lead to arguments between some people. And as we can see here, it can even lead to disagreements about the explanation of the phenomenon.
Edit 3: Well it turns out we were on the same page anyway. Still fascinating how much disagreement and misunderstanding a picture of a dress can cause!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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slick8086 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:32 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't seem to get it...
The digital image is static. Cut one piece from anywhere and it won't change. The colors under the filter are the what is shown in the dress. The color seen through the filter are the same. The point of the illustration that different colors can look the same then seen through under different light (through filters intentional or otherwise).
piano_room ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it looks like we were talking about the same thing, then. I think the misunderstanding arose when you replied to u/rowanbladex who said that it was caused by "lighting, but not filters," and you corrected him by saying those squares were filters. But I think u/rowanbladex was also saying there were no active filters in the gif, which you seem to agree with.
slick8086 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:25:34 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
correct.
Snoopy_Hates_Germans ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you weren't using the internet in early 2015? A picture of a dress with this colouration had people freaking out for weeks
surkh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:03 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The big deal about it is the way many people strongly perceive only one version and cannot see the other one, try as they might.
The big deal about it comes down to the notions around "seeing is believing" and this is also why this particular "illusion" feels a lot more troubling to many people than most other visual illusions.
slick8086 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:18 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
more people show take this class then... it is free.
https://www.edx.org/course/science-everyday-thinking-uqx-think101x-4
Pistacheeo ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 17:48:29 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's true that the shadowed area of white and gold can be the same, visually, as a weirdly lit area of blue and black, however when we can clearly see both the shadowed AND lit areas of either dress it's painfully obvious it's just blue and black. I've said my peace.
mrgermy ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:00:24 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never say my peace. Just my war. And that's me saying my piece.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:44:26 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this! Different lightings over two different color schemes is not the same as lighting both schemes with one source. I get the brainfart for people who never worked with photoshop blend modes but even then, it's pretty obvious.
Edit: To those who downvote, please explain to me why both dresses under the same lighting (look at the background) are different colors? Yeah that's right: because these are two different color schemes.
Edit #2: Here is a picture that illustrates what I mean
lilzilla ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:32 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But so what that it's different lighting? The point is to try to illustrate what people are seeing when they see it one way or the other.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:57:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The whole point of my demonstration is that even under the same lighting, the two dresses still have different color schemes in the example above. People are implying that the two dresses have the same color scheme (or are identical if you will), and the brainfart just comes from the lighting, which is false. They are different, and have different color schemes, which does not really pays justice to the original "Guess the dress color scheme" debate. It's not the same thing. In the original picture, the exact same background lighting was used, which leaved little to interpretation: either your brain was used to see stock merchandise pictures/could process the usual daylight lighting and could tell the dress was black/blue, or either your brain interprets the lighting wrongly by assuming it's a white/gold dress under some kind of shadow. But in the end, the original dress was still black and blue, and in this example, as I demonstrated, two dresses with two different color schemes were used. Not the same thing. Related to how your brain interprets light as in the original debate sure, but not the same thing. As soon as you add information, your brain will begin to build context around it, expecting things it can comprehend. And there is much more context in this picture than in the original one, given the additional space with both dresses with different color schemes under the same lighting, and then the added simulated lighting squares. And as in the original debate, about half people will see it this way while the other half won't. Also, the original picture was photographed 3D material, not 2D drawing, so there were much more shadow details, which gave your brain different information for interpretation and assumptions, no matter what colour you thought it was.
If you like brain fuckery, try this one. It depicts very well how your brain perceives shapes and colors only using light positioning. It looks like the face is morphing, but the light is simply spinning so your brain tries to fill the missing information as the face seems to change its shape, not very different from a 2D morph effect. If you look at it long enough, you'll soon realize how the light hits her hairs is adding to this perception by creating kind of a visual pan, forcing your attention to left, right, left, right and so on... which brings an even more dramatic effect to the rest of the frame. Because if you concentrate on her face only, avoiding any attention to her hairs, the morphing you were perceiving earlier loses most of its effect.
malfunctionconfirmed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
agree with what you are saying, but the posted image could also be trying to say that two color schemes can look the same at different lighting settings. This would then mean that it depends on our experience, which color scheme we wil eventually perceive.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:40 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back to the old facts/perception debate. You are right, it totally depends on how you perceive it. But only one colour scheme is the true one to the question: what colour is the dress?
If the question was: do you think it's possible that this dress can be perceived as white/gold under some circumstances, my most honest answer would be yes.
I see it this way: if you saw that woman run in a alleyway followed 2 minutes later by the police and they asked, what colour was the dress? The answer is black and blue.
malfunctionconfirmed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:39 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i was more talking about the reverse from what you did in the illustration of yours. What if you get only one of the schemes with the bad lightning, can you figure out what the original color scheme is without any further information. I would doubt it, but i am not that educated on that field.
Apart from that i agree with everything else
Pistacheeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:57 on May 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just chiming in here: The thing about the original dress picture is that we have more than enough extra information to see what the actual color of the dress is. not the least of which we can see how its colors change from highlights to shadows and then on top of that we can see enough of the environment it is placed in and see how the light interacts with things around it.
FlameDragonSlayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just wrote that essay basically saying that the original dress was black and blue, half the people were misinterpreting it as gold and white because their brain came to the conclusion that the dress is gold and yellow in heavy shadow, the other half saw the true colors and understood that the dress is under heavy lighting.
I don't know what your problem is with the gif but any sane person can see that the two dresses are different colors and have a layer of blue or yellow representing shadow and light. What the gif is illustrating is that the blue and black under heavy lighting with context appears as blue and black but when that same piece is moved over to the gold and white under shadows, they're the same color, we see the originally yellow tinted blue and black as yellow and white, with the context of the yellow and white dress. So it shows the two conclusions people's brains make. We know the two dresses are different colors in the pic.
woahmanitsme ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:16 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the whole point is that they aren't the same colour under the same lighting. the gif is showing that the same dress in two different lightings appear to be different colours.
when you say "Different lightings over two different color schemes" you're wrong because they're the same colour scheme.
manlycaveman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:17:14 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, the dresses in the gif were both made first as blue/black and white/gold. Then a colored overlay was placed over half of each dress: gold over the blue dress and blue over the gold dress. The gif is illustrating how the different lighting on the different colored dresses produces the same color.
The issue is that the two camps of people interpret the scene in two different ways. One sees the picture as a blue/black dress with the lighting blown out. The other misinterprets the picture as a white/gold dress that is in a shadow. Both of these people are actually seeing the same dress color, but their brain's interpretation of the scene is what leads to people saying the dress itself is one or the other.
The actual physical dress itself is blue and black.
woahmanitsme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:51 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ohhhh i see. thanks!
iamonlyoneman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:22 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the link. That photograph was terrible.
Snoopy_Hates_Germans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:14 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*piece
Pistacheeo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:45 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I always thought it was peace. Like you're making peace with yourself for saying the thing you want to say. Though I guess piece makes more sense...
Snoopy_Hates_Germans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:18 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're probably confusing it with the wedding phrase "Speak now, or forever hold your peace."
FolkSong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is to explain the famous photo, which contained very few lighting cues. So people's brains just took a guess, and many guessed wrong so they saw it as yellow and white.
Pistacheeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:43 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the thing is it contained enough lighting cues. The dress has light being cast on it, we have bounce light, shadows, we have an environment that looks a little blown out but otherwise normally colored and we even have other dresses that, if the dress is gold and white, then they do not appear to conform to that same illusion. There are just too many visual cues to misinterpret its color. The Op's gif shows only how with specific color shifting can create the illusion, But there's nothing in the original photo that implies that could be going on.
FolkSong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make - it's an established fact that a significant percentage of the population did misinterpret the colors in the photo.
It's easy to see the correct lighting cues once you see it the right way. When I look at now I agree it's obvious. But when I first saw it in 2015 I saw it as yellow and white plain as day, and I couldn't see how it could be blue.
Pistacheeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is utterly baffling to me. You can see where the light is hitting the fabric and you can see that the lighter fabric is blue and the darker fabric is turning a bit goldish, The shadows of the lighter fabric are STILL blue and the shadows of the darker fabric are just straight up black. How for the life of me can someone see gold and white in that?? AAAAAAAAAAH
This whole thing makes me irrationally angry. I'm trying not to say mean things.
FolkSong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of just thinking that you're some kind of superior intellect for seeing it the right way, you should look at it as an interesting insight into how human visual perception works. The wiki article has a good summary of some scientific explanations of the phenomenon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress#Scientific_explanations
Pistacheeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:03 on May 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah I totally understand the science of how that sort of illusion works and I don't deny that there can be a debate for which is right, but I still can't fathom how the dress picture can be one of those illusions. There's too much information available to instantly see exactly what color it is. And not surprisingly it is black and blue. If it were any other color, under those lighting conditions its highlights wouldn't look like they do. Its shadows might, but not both consistently. I don't mean to come off as a "superior intellect" I've just yet to see an explanation that makes sense as to why someone could see it as anything other than black and blue and so it's maddening me.
FolkSong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:37 on May 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean the science of how and why that particular photo produces an illusion for some people, which is what you're struggling with. I think it's very interesting that, unlike other illusions, most people are not able to switch their perception of it at will.
For instance, I first saw it as white and gold, but after looking into it and seeing some demonstrations my perception switched to blue and black. Since then I'vee been unable to see it as white and gold, and I agree with your sense of not understanding how anyone could, it's so obviously blue and black. And yet, I know that I myself used to see it that way. Things are happening in the brain below the level of conscious awareness.
nomnaut ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:05:58 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't take a shitty picture with shitty exposure.
jayjayde24 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:01:07 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the color of the lighting on the material that is key in the perception of color on the dress. Just like at night under yellow street lights our clothes and cars can look different. One image appears to be gold and white under dark lighting, while the other appears to be black and blue under warmer, yellow lighting.
YutyrannusRex ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:33:15 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who cares about the dress, I want this artwork!
muchtooblunt ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:33:41 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had the same thought. Took me a bit. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfINXByUYAAPCbE.png:large
YutyrannusRex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man!
I don't care if you're white and gold or black and blue, you're great!
I personally see light blue and muddy yellow.
muchtooblunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:28 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see white and gold, but that's cool. You're great too.
KorvisKhan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:06:33 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't do this again. DON'T YOU FUCKING DO IT
imjustjealous ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:40:57 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Original picture (Wikipedia)
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TONKAHANAH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im trying to find OP's original pic.. whats the drawing..
Zayin26 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:47 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can only see it when I invert my phone colors. When I do that I can make out the shade differences, but if I don't then I feel certain that the color of the patch is actually changing. Weird.
rathat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:27 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you can't see shadows and highlights correctly in negative. Sure, the colors still have the same values compared to each other, but our brains no longer compensate for the shadow.
hunter8790 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:34:19 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it. Why two yellow and white dresses?
gntc ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:20:53 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dress is blue
Jonathan_the_Nerd ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:45:47 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THE. DRESS. IS. BLUE!
ForceBlade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:47 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stupid reddit mobile doesn't even support the formatting. I just see your *'s everywhere :(
Jonathan_the_Nerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:42 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What interface/app are you using? It looks correct to me on both the regular and the old interface.
MrDurden93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:42 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this one though there's filters on both sides, doesn't seem to explain why the original picture is different depending on the person.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MrDurden93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:13 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean there is no filter? What do you think those blue and yellow rectangles are?
buzzcuttt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:59 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rectangle of a different color
rathat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:46 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The filters represent light and shadow. The original picture is a blue and black dress in bright sunlight. A lot of people perceive it as being a white and gold dress in a shadow.
Sacred_Soil ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:10:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not this again.
jmill155 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I said the same exact thing only I added shit to it.
rossbcobb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:42 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I an idiot? I have no idea what is going on here.
rnelsonee ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:34:42 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Context. It was a big thing two years ago (well, an internet thing, so the story lasted a week at most).
byttle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:59:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's as big as it gets
Pistol-PackinPanda1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:42 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or as Neil Degrasse Tyson would call it "BRAIN FAILURES!!!!"
billwashere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:40 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see either by just covering up half of the original pic. See the other color by covering the other half.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:14 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is essentially the statement: "context matters"
tante_ernestborgnine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:48 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see gold and white. I asked my husband and one of my sons; the boy sees gold and white and my husband sees blue and black. Crazy!
re1mon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:04 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The nemesis of all painters, that's why it is key to isolate parts of the paint with a cardboard to get the values and hues right.
MithranArkanere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:49 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stop making me aware of color persistence!
looperhacks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:07:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not this shit again
cutthecrap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:11:14 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is pissing me off to no end for some reason.
casingrgrl16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:23:55 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still white and gold to me.
MapleA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:40 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never once had a person tell me the dress was gold and white. I honestly don't understand why it became such a big deal. It's so obviously blue and black and no matter how hard I try I can't see it as white and gold.
wampdawg22 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:42:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never been able to see the dress as blue and black no matter how hard I try. It is always gold and white.
Zetalus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfocus you eyes and without context your brain won't switch the colors. alternatively focus on the outside of the image and try to view the color without looking at the dress. If that all fails, try the cross eyed method.
MapleA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe you. I just looked at the picture again and it's clearly black and blue, if you can't see that I think you should have your eyes checked. I also took the original picture and inverted the colors and then it becomes gold and white. It baffles me that anyone can see it gold and white.
shupack ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:33:47 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gold and white to my eyes.
MapleA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:13 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Take the original picture and invert it.
shupack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:58 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now it's upsidedown....
/s
Ben604 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:56 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe most women usually see the gold. Not certain though.
MapleA ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:34:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It always baffled me because it's clearly black and blue. Don't you think so too?
rathat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:03 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the original picture, I bet it also look like it's in bright sunlight too? Well it is. But to some people, it looks like it's in a shadow, when we perceive it being in a shadow, our brain compensates for the shadow to show us the real color, but in this case, 9ts misleading us because there is no shadow.
MapleA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do people see it in shadow when there's a fucking bright light in the picture?! I guess people that see gold and white aren't that smart or good at picking up visual cues.
WeRip ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:47:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It IS black and blue, but the image is 'gold' and pale blue. It's a bad photo, but some people's brains will pick up the context that it's black and blue. The image is actually 'gold' and pale blue if you extract the colors.
oh_ok_i_guess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It looks gold and white to me every time I look at it.
AdeonWriter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ask more people
wakka54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maybe you don't know any mentally ill people
MapleA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaha have an upvote. If you can't pick up the visual cues which tell you it's a well lit room and not a darkened shadow then yeah you may be dumb.
DarkKing97 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:35:15 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sam I the only one who saw blue and gold ๐
AncientSwordRage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:13 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think if I mention this one more time to my wife, she might hit me...
rossbcobb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:49 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen the dress. But the gif above looks like the colors are changing. I want to know what is going on I just do not believe I have a true understanding
arahabaki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:24 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Noooooooooooo
bazoos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:03 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit. I don't believe you. Burn the witch!
Monstoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:54 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, this is one of the best mind fuck material..
rideride ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:22 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I finally understand :D
asparagas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:01 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Tele_Prompter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:39 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NOT THIS AGAIN!!!!
AdmiralMikey75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:37 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This hit, that ice cold
Michelle Pfeiffer, that blue black
GameKyuubi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always saw it as white and gold until one night I looked at it and it was black and blue. I was in shock and did a double take and then it changed back and never returned.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:47 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But is it black and blue or white and gold?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's blue and black dammit
AR35_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:16 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw black and blue for a second and then it snapped back to gold and white
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:12 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boy Photoshop is a great thing, huh?
wrenagade419 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:01 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's gold and blue..
AceCase2D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:11 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here. We. Go.
warpfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:30 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh dear god no, I can't go through this again.
mt2oo8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:16 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah February 2015 we meet again
rowanbladex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:32 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NO
Saintmikey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ha I like pop culture ha
Isaywhatiwannasay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:09 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The left sides of the dresses are different colors, the right sides are The same color. They used the shaded boxes to obscure the color changes and darkened the characters skin on the right to seal the illusion . There's no filter being applied to the colors making them appear different. It's all in the backgrounds.
SailorRalph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sick of your shit Tom! The dress is gold and white! It's plain as day!
moschles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/blackmagicfuckery
Solid_Waste ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:56 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DONT BELIEVE HIS LIES
ilre1484 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:33 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I. Hate. You.
DemonWTF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:29 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OH my god
flaminx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:54 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got to love a karma repost
randykent855 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:37 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Enough with this dress already!
Daniel_USA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:36 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jokes on you all. It was brown and pink all along!
carolinax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:11 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is amazing.
i still only see a white/yellow dress in the original photo (IT'S A BLUE FILTER BECAUSE IT'S IN LOW LIGHT, IT'S BACK LIT!!) this is 10/10 perfect. My mind's a little blown.
ChewsOnRocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay so they have the square boxes to show that in one case it could be a lit up black and blue dress, and in another case it could be a dimly-lit white and gold dress.
But look at the original picture. The lighting is so unambiguous. Everything in the background is so bright, it's clear that there is strong lighting. This should automatically tell your brain to conclude it is black and blue like it does when you see that snippet move to the light square in this gif. I don't understand how this percept didn't kick in for almost half the population when everyone was arguing about this.
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ulyssessword ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prompt for /r/HFY or even /r/WritingPrompts :
Humans are the only species that can perceive the world as consisting of objects with properties independent of their surroundings. Aliens aren't confused that they have the same photons coming off of them, they become confused when the light is equalized and they don't match anymore.
PsychicKitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:31 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone know the source of the uncropped image?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:57 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This animation is weird for me because as I watch it move over to the right, I see it changing colors. Specifically as it crosses over the lit part on the right side. But then as it crosses back over, I can't see a color change. For what it's worth, I've never been able to see the dress in the original picture as anything but white and gold, being in shadow in the foreground with an overexposed background.
bebaebae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:17 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must be the yellow light on the left pic that makes the yellow on the right pic looks blue. Just guessing.
Baiiista1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:20 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To put it bluntly: This shit is wack yo.
cjtnegrete ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:13 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lies.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:10:52 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pls dont
TheCerealKillar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:54 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is the pic he is using to compare the dresses
Paltenburg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:04 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does someone have the original drawing of OP?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:50 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How has no ad agency picked this up anyways?
stargazercmc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone who sees blue and black tell me what happens for you when the image moves right? Is it blue and black to start with for you? All I see is white and gold moving from left to right. Even on the left side, it just looks like a dress made in four different colors. My brain just will not see it. I have kind of seen blue/black if I turn the image almost completely flat to my field of vision but it never stays that way.
keeegan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:25 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes you wonder what the CIA does to your brain without your knowledge.
BRi7X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:23 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here we go again.
lostintransactions ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:55 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit "illusion", it's trickery and dishonest.
see how it's done
I simply changed the background to match (they were different colors) and whited out the front of the dress. This has nothing to do with the colors at hand. This is a drawing, the colors are being manipulated with a DIFFERENT shadow overlay color.
Also notice the cartoon lost all it's outlines. If they were in the same lighting, the outline would be as clear and strong in both images.
loopie120 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:35:05 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bullshit "illusion", it's trickery and dishonest."
WTF do you think an illusion is, moron?
alsyapal07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Isaywhatiwannasay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:26 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I took a still image of this. Brought it into a paint program and cut and drag a piece of one dress to the other dress, the colors match. No filter manipulation and no shadow overlay happening. Yes, there's an illusion happening but the pieces of the dress from their respective halves are the same.
Behrman7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:10 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough, I can get the image on the right to switch from Black/Blue to Gold/White over and over, but not with the right.
Isaywhatiwannasay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:29 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the dark background really make the right one appear to be a brighter yellow than it is.
_Scarcane_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:45 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Metamerism
AfterShave92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:19 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never seen the dress as anything but blue and black. But in this particular example it feels like I'm being forced to see it as white and gold thanks to optical fuckery.
Agus-Teguy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:33:26 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the same optical fuckery except this time you have context, with the dress your brain made up a context and stuck with it
SupriseDankMeme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just here for the loli.
iamedisonlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:22 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can someone ELI5
masoe ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:13 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
White and gold. The left dress just looks like blue and brown/yellow. There's no black.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:54 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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BuildingComp01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:35 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I checked. While both the color sections of both dresses vary slightly across the field:
Left Dress:
Right Dress:
Against a white field of color, the "black" is clearly a dull gold, and the "white" is clearly light blue. This is different from the original dress.
EDIT: Demonstration
Firegivesme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:44 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was getting wildly different numbers than that, maybe due to screenshot?
BuildingComp01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:06 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here
Firegivesme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:52 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't doubt you, but I did get vastly different numbers from a screenshot.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:47 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did that have to illustrate it on some paedo shit though smh
AdeonWriter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:11:08 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you see a cartoon of a little girl and your mind immedately goes to "paedo shit", then you are the one with issues.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:49:37 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paedo apologist spotted
Athrul ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:36:00 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean, illusion?
These are literally the exact same colours.
rnelsonee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:06 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dress on the left looks black and blue, whereas the dress on the right looks
bluewhite and gold. So the illusion is that the black and blue dress is still mostly black and blue in the boxed region, and the white and gold is still (mostly) white and gold in the lit boxed region. On the off chance you don't know the context, this is it.Snoopy_Hates_Germans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:38 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
White and gold, not blue and gold.
SamL214 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:36:49 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry but these are not the same colors. Yes maybe in irl they were but this actually changes. I too a snap of it and analyzed the color gamut. Sorry not same.
RealBACONATOR2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:00 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Place your thumb over the left side of the left dress. You can turn the illusion on and off like a light-switch. Try it! Despite not being exact, it's still really cool
SamL214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:26 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It drives me nuts man! Did you ever have those two half circle shapes that you put one on top of the other and it would show up being larger? Oh drives me nuts!
RealBACONATOR2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:17:07 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's important for understanding how we perceive the world! Once you realize your intuition can be wrong, you can catch yourself before making a mistake
SamL214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:32 on May 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed!
Sauctoritas ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:58 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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snoozeflu ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 23:59:54 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lame. It changes color when it crosses the line in the middle of the image.
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