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ChadMcRad ยท 1905 points ยท Posted at 01:17:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Would be amazing if you needed a moderators permission to enter

AlphaNathan ยท 665 points ยท Posted at 01:32:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're not allowed out until you've made someone's day.

ViscousRat ยท 191 points ยท Posted at 01:46:53 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do you want to create a trolling paradise?

instantrobotwar ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 05:31:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's hard work and sacrifice

Livin in a troller's paradise

TenaciousJP ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 06:00:23 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We sell memes at discount price

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The_Sgro ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:47:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Stirrin' the pot just won't suffice

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Hexxington ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 03:01:21 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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fiftyfifth ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:18:42 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Hexxington ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:32:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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millennial_engineer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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armchairnixon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:05 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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armchairnixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:57 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good bot.

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braintrustinc ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:45:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Freundlichkeit macht frei

mixmastermind ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:49:20 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know how to feel about this

randomness217 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:59:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Auschwitz ist fรผr alle Leute! Junger oder รคlter!

AnalyticalParrot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:08 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

as defined by "google translate" my response must be "fuck you" until other wise determined

WarningTooMuchApathy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:41 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Es ist sehr gรผte! ^(please forgive my german)

[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:47:13 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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DiscountSupport ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:46:06 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Somehow you missed the joke and the fact that google translate exists. It means "Friendliness sets you free"

Hotel_Arrakis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

/u/DefectiveLizardAnus sprechen Sie Deutsche btte.

dirtycurt55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Even if that someone is yourself ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

no-running ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 02:22:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

April Fool's Day prank for this sub? Like, on April First, this subreddit goes private and there's some snarky message about needing to be a REAL Redditor to gain access?

Dunno if it's been done in the past since I wasn't subscribed here last year, but it sounds like it could be an amusing meta-joke for the sub.

LothartheDestroyer ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 02:35:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I nearly got sucked in. What a novel sub.

juustgowithit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:45 on February 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it was such a calming and relaxing experience ๐Ÿ˜„

hingadingaburgen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:53 on February 20, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have fallen victim to it. Save yourself from the human kindness you will soon see.

Kilazur ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 06:32:52 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
ToastedMemes12321 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:01:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

!redditgarlic

garlicbot ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:01:41 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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daria_arbuz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:57:43 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I want that too ):

etskinner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:06 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

!redditgarlic

daria_arbuz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

thank you kind man, i hope you live a long healthy life and have many kids

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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daria_arbuz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:44:36 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

am i an ogre now

stillphat ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:18:50 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh that's a real positive sub, i like that.

Dr_fish ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:44:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
stillphat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:24:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seent it, but thanks โค

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:09:52 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œ2K Subscribersโ€ โ€œ6K People Onlineโ€ lol

Lan777 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:44 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Open the gate a little

anandy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:11 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, that turns into shitposting fast

Polar_00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:18 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This subreddit genuinely put a smile on my face

Johnny_Cunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:36 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thought this was bonehurtingjuice Oof owie I think it is

squiddyaj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:02 on June 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
xmintyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:21 on June 25, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think my comment made it a thing

rustymiker ยท 2250 points ยท Posted at 00:57:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But mad respect for coalminers what a shitty job

tronald_dump ยท 1154 points ยท Posted at 01:44:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

this is why ill never understand why people want to prop up the coal industry!

if they actually cared about the workers, theyd push to retrain them for other jobs, so these people dont have to do decades of backbreaking labor, only to die of mesothelioma at 52 years old. no one should have to sacrifice their well-being for menial wages.

CaptainUnusual ยท 530 points ยท Posted at 01:48:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But keeping the industry alive may entitle them to financial compensation.

nomnivore21 ยท 238 points ยท Posted at 02:16:20 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

IF YOU OR A LOVED ONE

destructor_rph ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 03:20:56 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

F I N A N C I A L C O M P A N S A T I O N

k1d_5h31d0n ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 18:05:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH M E S O T H E L I O M A

ChickenWithATopHat ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 03:08:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oof you were so damn close

nomnivore21 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:17:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha fixed

tronald_dump ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 01:51:22 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

just call 1-800-MESO-BOOK

HawkMock ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:45:50 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

!redditsilver

RedditSilverRobot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:46:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
epic_pig ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:45:20 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Explain how

Morella_xx ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 03:55:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's a joke about the sketchy lawyers who advertise on TV by saying things like "if you or a loved one suffer from mesothelioma, you may be entitled to financial compensation."

rayne117 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:11:27 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Non attorney spokesperson

tronald_dump ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:25:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Money can be exchanged for goods, and services.

JayEster ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:26:48 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Woo hoo!

HottestManGravy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:55 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy crap, this is the best comment Iโ€™ve read on reddit since I started visiting here. This is the perfect comment and it made le laugh like an idiot in the break room at my work.

Olyvyr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:09:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get the joke but let's not blame the lawyers who are recovering for these folks. They're making a shit ton of money but if that's what the system needs to push back again the actual problem, sure.

MoreIronyLessWrinkly ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:02:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who lives in coal country, while your idea of retraining sounds grand, youโ€™re underestimating that many of them would not leave their hometown in order to find other work. Sad but accurate.

SimpleCoalMiner ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:56:08 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know what is sad about wanting to live in a rural environment and be around your friends, family, and community.

MoreIronyLessWrinkly ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:38:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I live in one and want to live here... I am as referring to the fact that coal miners donโ€™t have a lot of job opportunities outside of what they do unless theyโ€™re willing to move.

S3V9 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 03:32:58 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mesothelioma is an absetos-related cancer though, you might be thinking of Black Lung disease.

tronald_dump ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:26:52 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i actually knew that haha. i just wanted to use the meme-disease :/

jonnywoh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:51:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Memesothelioma

S3V9 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:31:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ohhh hahahha fair enough, sorry!

IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:01:34 on February 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What TV commercial lawyer do I call for Black Lung

S3V9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:06 on February 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Slater and Gordon :')

Jusfidus ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:51:46 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Last I checked, a coal miner earned far more than a menial wage.

OMGSPACERUSSIA ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:33:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder if it's enough to support a man laid up with black lung, a homemaker and 3 kids going to college?

SimpleCoalMiner ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:53:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Backlung is rare, particularly when you follow ventilation rules and it doesn't show up anymore till your kids are already well out of college. Also, why would you pay money for your kids not have jobs, when you could get them jobs in the mine.

mmuncy09 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:25:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

LOL, what mine are you working at that follows the vent plan when inspectors are around? Not to sound like a dick but seriously, I've worked in the mines over 7 years and have never had a job that cared about the air/. I did a lung capacity test that showed I have the lungs of a 41 year old. I was 26 when I took the test.

SimpleCoalMiner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

When inspectors aren't around i suppose you mean. Mines don't follow ventilation plans workers do. If a continuous miner operator gets blacklung because he didn't follow ventilation plan as I'd his miner's right, who's fault is that? I

tronald_dump ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:27:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

whats 90k a year when the cost is your LIFE

[deleted] ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 02:03:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Beerphysics ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:27:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just to add to your first point. I'm a science teacher and sometime, I have older students going back to school after having some kids and working some part-time jobs until their children start school. Mostly women. A lot of them drops after a single semester of a ~3-years program. For various reasons.

First, it puts stress on the relationship with your partner. Now, you have to go to school in the day, do homeworks, lab reports and stuff in the evening and in the weekends. You can't help as much with chores as before and you have to sometime get away from your home to study in a silent place (kids are noisy). So, both partners are going to put in a lot more work because he'll have to pick up what you've left.

Secondly, you lag behind your classmates. You still have more responsabilities than them even if your partner is helping at home, and it's been a while since you've learned anything new so you're kind of rusty in that area. What did you learn in your math class 10 years ago? Well, it's far away and you didn't pay attention in math back then, so you need to re-learn that thing very quickly while you're already struggling to learn what you're seeing right now. And you don't have time to learn everything perfectly, because that would need a lot more of study. That will lead to some problems later on, but anyway.

Third, you don't know anyone and are out-of-phase on current memes and games, so you don't automatically fit right in, so it's harder to find a suitable lab partner.

What plays in their favor though is that sheer motivation they have to go back to school. If you have that kind of drive, you can do it. But you need a very understanding partner and family, good social support and be somewhat good at school.

serious_sarcasm ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:08:19 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So youโ€™re saying we need better safety nets?

Iโ€™m not sure why you think any of that contradicts the need for America to get away from hypervocationalization.

Soundtravels ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:52:03 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You just described my current struggle perfectly. I like school and like you said, I'm highly motivated since I have a lot on the line. So it's not all bad, but it feels nice to know some people have empathy.

plu7o89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:04:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, you hit the nail on the head. One year of community college went exactly how you explained and now Im back working a field job in this little oil boom were having.

Majiwaki45 ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 02:12:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which is exactly why the US should have more social safety nets and services, so that all people, be it those who have been poor for their entire lives, or those who find themselves at the end of their rope due to macroeconomic changes they couldnโ€™t have predicted, can get assistance to adapt and survive.

Instead right wing politicians, knowing thereโ€™s a large number of people who got stuck in single-commodity local economies, are now suffering due to a changing world, and often never sought higher education or training because they could live financially comfortable lives without it, are manipulating these people into becoming the backbone of regressive politics and policies in the US, and self-sabotaging.

The people who could now most use social services to keep them afloat as they diversify and retrain, are instead digging deeper into their doomed position, and threatening the entire nation.

bigragingrondo ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:36:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wow very well said!!

Rumps02 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:16:15 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wait a second. You mean to tell me right wing politicians are preventing individuals from diversifying their vocational skills?

Nobody is stopping anyone from achieving whatever it is they want to do. If you live in a town with only one viable financial option, then youโ€™re not trying hard enough. These towns you speak of have hospitals, veterinarian offices, restaurants, grocery stores, and other job opportunities available.

Lack of social services is not the issue here. This is the land of opportunity and there are a ton of feel good stories of people who made their own way by rolling up their sleeves and taking the difficult path to creating their own success.

I am tired of the narrative that it is the fault of someone else (especially politicians) as to why someone chooses to be an 18 year old coal miner. over a struggling minimum wage employee attending night classes at a nearby college. That is short term thinking and someone young and immature who only are counting money in hand now vs. possibly more money in hand in the future. Sure there are outliers where people have to supports a sick family members or have a pregnant 18 year old girlfriend and they need money for doctor bills, but I can debunk that narrative as well. My best friendโ€™s uncle knocked up his 17 year old girlfriend with twins. For six years he worked during the day making very little money and attended night school and received a BS in Business. Got a job working construction and started to learn the business from both sides. He saved money and got a loan and opened his own construction business and is now a very successful local businessman.

ST07153902935 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 06:12:22 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, right now if you get laid off in the US you get 6 months of pay, free housing (section 8), free food (SNAP), usually free or discounted transportation (depends on municipality), free healthcare, free phones, free cash (if you have kids through tax credit), free cash through TANF, and subsidized wages if you start to work through EITC.

The majority of government spending in the US is on transfer payments. The government (state, federal, and local) spends more per capita than many european nations. This myth of the US does not have social safety nets is stupid.

US: (36% of gdp is gov ) 57,466.79=20.7 k

UK: (42.1% of gdp is gov)39,899.39= 16.8 k

That is a HUGE difference.

Before you start going on this rant about the military, we can subtract military spending from % of GDP that is gov:

US: (36-3.3% of gdp is gov)57,466.79=18.8 k

UK: (42.1-1.8% of gdp is gov)39,899.39= 16.1 k

dontsaynlgger ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 03:04:04 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Why is it up to the the government(people) to protect an industry, or somebodies wallet. The only reason we should have a government is to protect peace, not market.

The market(the people) already decided, we don't want your crap service anymore! We want clean energy! and the stubborn fools, they refused, and thus, lost their jobs and lively-hood. Well, boo fucking hoo.

ScottsdalePD ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:26:19 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So what are the people in Eastern KY and WV supposed to do? All the jobs in their towns revolve around coal. It's not that simple.

Mattkittan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:35:55 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There should be an investment in those areas in order to find a way to help out those towns.

ScottsdalePD ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:38:31 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

By who? Because the guy I responded to said that the government shouldn't step in.

Mattkittan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:39:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, fortunately Iโ€™m not that guy :P

movzx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:22 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're working under the premise that every town must exist in perpetuity. That may not be the case. If these towns only exist to support a mine, and that mine goes dry, then these towns don't necessarily need to be propped up until kingdom come.

Mattkittan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I partially agree with you. If the town exists only to support a mine, if that mine becomes obsolete, then the town needs to change. They should absolutely not be propped up by trying to keep that mine viable, because thatโ€™s completely unsustainable in the long run.

That being said, the town exists, and if it were โ€œabandonedโ€, then all the capital invested in that townโ€™s infrastructure is essentially wasted because it still functions; if the town was completely ruined, then thereโ€™d be no point in staying there, but because it isnโ€™t, the townโ€™s economy will need to change, and to do so, people would need to train for different jobs: jobs that are able to keep the town sustainable in the long run.

Basically, the reason for the townโ€™s existence needs to change, otherwise money used to โ€œcreateโ€ that town will have been wasted. Investing in that townโ€™s long term sustainability is much cheaper than building a new one.

movzx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:14 on February 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is that these mining towns were built around the mine which means they are in the middle of nowhere.

There aren't going to be any other industries in the area that can support the workforce. You're not really going to get factories that want to open up there because the infrastructure is shit and they'll be away from the shipping and warehouse hubs in the cities. This isn't like Detroit going tits up and us working to bail it out.

You're also assuming we need to build new towns to make up for these lost ones. Why? Again, these towns were built around mines. That is a practical reason to build the town there, but the work opportunities have moved into more concentrated areas that already exist. These people need to move to existing places, not to new places.

These towns are a sunk cost at this point. We invested in them, realized our investment, and no longer need them.

Or to make a comparison:

We had a construction job. We needed a truck for that job, so we bought one. Eventually the construction job was done, we got a new job where we don't need the truck any longer, and that truck is on its last legs anyway. Is it smart to pay for a new engine, transmission, etc for a truck we don't need simply because it was a truck we did need at one point? Not really.

dontsaynlgger ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 03:52:43 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not that simple.

It really is as simple as doing nothing and letting them figure it out.

currently the government intervention is to save the jobs so, there is your government for you!

Mattkittan ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:06:04 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Investing in retraining for people in that town helps them find a new job. The government doesnโ€™t give them the job, it just gives them the ability get that job by teaching them new skills. Not exactly government intervention if itโ€™s the market providing the job.

dontsaynlgger ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 04:18:10 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

talk about "it's not that simple" lmao. Retraining for what, you're going to force these people into a career path? You're going to give them limited options of things they might not give two shits about?

So free schooling for people who lose a job because their business went out of business? Hi yes I got fired from my job, 1 free retraining please, government!

talk about "it's not that easy"! LOL. daddy government plwease protect me! I lost my job even though I saw it coming and didn't prepare!

Mattkittan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:19:44 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t recall saying anything about forced retraining or free retraining.

sparhawk817 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:29:18 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also, I totally think that if a company goes out of business the employees should be entitled to some kind of subsidized education system, or you know, community colleges could be affordable or something again.

dontsaynlgger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

why?

sparhawk817 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:39:50 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because if those people are employed, they're paying taxes. If, for example, there were additional student loans and grants specifically for retraining from unemployment, I think it's a wonderful idea. Loans have to be repaid.

You should too. Every person who has a job, and every person who has the slightest bit of post secondary education? They benefit you, and they benefit Society. They pay taxes, and they do their jobs, and while they also contribute to traffic and everything else, SO DO YOU. You should support helping people out of hard times, because those times will come for you, and even if you don't need the assistance, the option for it? That is something I doubt you'll regret.

dontsaynlgger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:47:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So you think it will be a good idea but, do you have any real kind of evidence that it would be or an argument other than your feelings?

sparhawk817 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:51:21 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Um... The paved and lit road outside my house. Paid for by tax dollars. Taxes? Are paid by people with jobs. Not by subsidizing dying industries, or letting people lose their jobs and homes and possibly lives because of the dying industry. Taxes. Money. Is this your language? Money.

Also you haven't provided any evidence to the contrary?

dontsaynlgger ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 08:18:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't need any evidence because I'm not advocating a stance, just questioning yours. And you didn't provide an argument. In fact I don't find your comments relevance, it was kinda retarded.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:42:46 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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dontsaynlgger ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

do you know what the word commerce means?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:20 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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dontsaynlgger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:10 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

so you don't?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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dontsaynlgger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:05 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

didn't think so, dumbass.

Jusfidus ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 03:59:03 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which is exactly why we have safety nets that are taken advantage of every single day. There are families in America who have lived off the government for generations.

People apply for disability for every minor injury and end up getting it because they find some sleazy lawyer who will pull strings to get it approved in exchange for half the disability check each month for a few years.

Kids in poverty can get enough grants to get a four year degree, yet they don't want to. Why would they do that when they can shack up with a single mother in section 8 who receives checks for her kids every month? You are severely underestimating the laziness and lack of desire to succeed that cripples any kind of social "safety net".

Sloppy1sts ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:30:18 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Retraining often times isn't free nor is it nearby. Finding paid retraining is even rarer. It's highly unlikely someone can just take several months off of work.

We're talking about the people who would fight government programs to retrain them for free.

โ€ขThere's a high likelihood of having to move, which is expensive and not every company assists in the process, especially lower paying jobs. It's easier to do so if you're single, but if you have a family and you've only lived in one place your whole life it's an entirely different story

Lots of people have to move for work. Suck it up because coal is dying.

Familiarity. It's a paycheck and kids right out of high school can start making some decent money. People generally don't like change.

If someone is offering you free training for a job that's a billion times less likely to give you cancer and otherwise destroy your body, and you say no because you've been brainwashed by right wing propaganda, I can't really feel that bad for you.

movzx ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:21:10 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not would fight. Did fight. That is part of the solution the Dems had for the coal miner issue. Retrain those folks, at a cost to the taxpayers, into an industry that wasn't dying.

The whole "they'd have to move!" thing really rustles my jimmies given the attitudes the right wing had about progressives looking for work not a few years prior. "Can't find work? It's your fault! You're not doing whatever it takes! muh bootstraps!" Now they can't find a coal miner job in their shit town paying 80k/yr with no education required? "I need my government handouts!"

skooterblade ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:22:20 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

An entry level mining job pays 60k? Really?

mmuncy09 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:28 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I started out in the mines making 25$ an hour, free insurance and working ATLEAST 50 hours a week...

ArcadianGhost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:20:54 on February 21, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

60k off the bat? Fuck this college shit where do I sign up?

riotcowkingofdeimos ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:48:50 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It pays well.

gradeplg ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:58:28 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So does programming or green energy.

RightHyah ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 02:16:15 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That requires actual skill. B4 downvotes am miner.

gradeplg ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:35:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The government is offering free retraining lessons in certain areas, and some companies will pay for retraining. I tried learning how to program as a hobby , and I couldn't get no matter what (it was like learning a foreign language, which was my worst subject in school), so I understand that aspect being impossible for many people. That's why I mentioned green energy, it's mostly construction, operating machinery, and wiring which (imo) is much easier.

Fistful_of_Crashes ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:25:48 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Downvoted. Am bitcoin miner

RightHyah ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:26:50 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The silicon mines are a terrible place

Bentaeriel ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:58:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's the sound of a man

working on the (block) chain

gaaaaaaiang.

CashCop ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:38:04 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What kind of green energy jobs do you look at? I know many people in environmental engineering and bio resource engineering and their salaries are truly insulting and honestly unjust.

Bless their hearts, we need them.

But yeah holy shit programming

gradeplg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Which energy are the people you know working in? It honestly depends on geographical area and which energy you're working with (wind, solar, hydroelectric, ect.)

Seldarin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I keep hearing green energy pays well, and I've never seen it.

I was going to jump from industrial to green, but after multiple offers to pay me half what I make now and expecting me to stay in a room with a half dozen other dudes instead of being given a per diem, I figured someone else could have it.

The companies that win the contracts to do the installations are largely shady af.

The only real fix for it is stronger labor laws and stricter enforcement of them.

throwawayxyzabc1239 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:25:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That requires a college education

gradeplg ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:39:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not really. If you're any good at learning new languages, you can teach yourself programming, and green energy covers a wide variety of jobs. Construction, operating the machinery, and (to a lesser extent) the wiring can be done with retraining/shadowing a mentor.

rxvf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:56 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There are lots of places that'll hire you if you have skills.

Wonkey_dong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not everyone has an interest in programming though

netmier ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:20:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes. But thereโ€™s little room for advancement and little job security.

I live in coal, gas and oil country, the great state of Wyoming. I see first hand how people live depending on fossil fuels. Itโ€™s shit, total shit. Hundreds of guys scraping by into their sixties on just enough to pay their rent/mortgage and a 12 pack of beer when they need it. Sure, there are some guys with 20 year old (read:shitty) corvettes from the days of oil booms, but most of the the hands and roughnecks are barely surviving and canโ€™t deal with the myriad health issues that come with that life.

Our community college is full of 40-50 year old former oil/gas/coal guys doing retraining because they were either pushed out due to injury or quit to get a better job to save for retirement.

Preston1138 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:24 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like it's really hard to avoid here. I tried to stay out of the oil field but still ended up going into as a casing hand.

netmier ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:41:11 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™ve avoided it pretty well. Iโ€™ll make minimum wage and deal with that before I end up in the fields.

OMGSPACERUSSIA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:32:18 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It also kills you slowly and painfully. Or quickly an painfully if you worked in a mine run by our current secretary of commerce.

RightHyah ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:16:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

High paying low skill jobs.

TheManWhoPanders ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:35 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not that simple. Industries don't just pop out of existence. There needs to exist a market first.

waitwheredoesthisgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:28 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most miners make 70-90k. And benefits.

dingus_king_69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:25 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get what you're saying entirely, but most, if not all, are NOT making "menial wages". Their pay is pretty high as a function of the danger and environments of the job.

ReaLyreJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thing is, they are offered retraining and education. They turn it down. At this point it's their own fault.

BlindBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:09 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Because the coal industry is what fuels certain parts of America? If you cut that out, you have just butchered thousands and thousands of jobs. I donโ€™t understand what is so hard for people to understand about this. People work these jobs because they have no other choice. If you destroy the industry, youโ€™re destroying their lives as well.

There is a reason major tech regions push renewable energy while coal and oil regions donโ€™t. The tech regions make bank off of renewable energy (someone has to make solar panels and wind turbines, and itโ€™s generally them). Whatโ€™s funny is that the tech regions are wealthier as is. So basically the wealthy regions want to starve out the poorer ones so that they can make even more money. The rich get richer.

peypeyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:16 on February 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's not easy to get another job in a coal mining town.

dontsaynlgger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:58:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

the workers have a will, and I think some of them would be bummed the mines close. So, don't forget to take them into consideration when you think you know best.

You know, I would never work in a coal mine, or an oil field, no matter the cost cause fuck the labor. If everyone was like me, well, nobody would mine coal, bud.

BrodyKrautch ยท -35 points ยท Posted at 01:50:28 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck off.

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:52:36 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol well that was intelligent

omtopus ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:51:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What an interesting, and thought-provoking, counterpoint.

BrodyKrautch ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 02:28:18 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't realize you had to sound interesting and thought provoking when telling someone to fuck off.

tronald_dump ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:55:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

why :/

41BottlesOf ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 01:37:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Underground coal mining is tough. Source: Am coal miner. 11 years underground, 0.5 years surface.

TheGreenGibus ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:01:50 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In theory, and without minding the hard work aspect, living underground might seem kinda cool.

41BottlesOf ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:28:50 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The camaraderie is huge and the hard work is kind of fun and builds teamwork. Like many aspects of a job, you can get used to it.

Some of the more interesting parts of work were watching the older guys roof bolt. Roof bolting can be hell on a person, but if one can learn the machine well, he can make it very easy on himself.

Iโ€™ve seen dozens of young, dumb, full of piss-and-vinegar kids get partnered up on a roof bolted with the old veteran and the old guy will look like heโ€™s hardly moving and outright smoke the kids on that machine. Pouring their sweat and energy out trying to move as fast as they can and not keep up with the old guy is a sight to see.

Thereโ€™s tons of great things about it and frankly, most miners wouldnโ€™t want to do any other line of work.

Day shift during the winter time can get a little depressing sometimes. Imagine going underground before daylight and getting back on top after the sun sets. Definitely changes your mood when you donโ€™t see the sun for a week straight

MattcVI ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:02:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

How does one get into that sort of work? Do I just look for "coal miner" on Indeed

SimpleCoalMiner ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:58:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Just ask your dad or uncle to get you a job down at the local mine.

MattcVI ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:36:44 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ah yeah can't forget that local mine every city has lol

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:16 on June 27, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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SimpleCoalMiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:51 on July 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey! That is neat. Thanks.

41BottlesOf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:12:46 on February 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you go to an area where there are mines you will see ads run in the paper or online. The best bet is to sign up at a local training school/ community college for your โ€œ40 hourโ€ new miner training and then get with a temporary staffing agency.

Most mines pull their men from temp agencies, work them like slaves for a few months to weed the duds out and hire the good ones.

kodyodyo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:26:38 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dwarves seem to enjoy it

modusvitae ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:15:52 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

In theory, and without minding the hard work aspect, living underground might seem kinda cool coal.

FTFY

Icyrow ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:55 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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yฬดoฬทuฬธ ฬดfฬตeฬทeฬดlฬด ฬดaฬต ฬทtฬตeฬตnฬทtฬดaฬธcฬถlฬธeฬธ ฬด bฬถอŒฬฬฬŠฬฝฬ†ฬ‹ฬฟอ‚อŠฬ“ฬฬŽฬ–ฬ˜ฬฎฬงอŽrฬถฬฬ‹ฬ‰ฬกuฬถอ›ฬ‡ฬ”ฬŠฬŠฬ’ฬฬกsฬธอ ฬ‰ฬ„ฬ‚อƒฬšฬฬ”อ’ฬŽออฬœฬžฬจhฬดฬอ ฬ…อ‹ฬฟฬšฬ€ฬพฬอˆฬผฬกฬฅฬŸฬฎฬ–ฬชอ™ฬฉ ฬทฬ‘อ†ออŠอ€ฬอŒฬ‘อ€อ‹ฬ†ฬŠฬ†ฬ‘ฬฉฬฉฬผฬฬจฬคฬคpฬตฬŠฬฬƒอ„อŠฬ…อ†อ†อ„อƒอƒออ†ฬฬ“อšฬŸฬขอ–อˆฬคอ•ฬคฬฐaฬธอƒฬ„ออฬ†ฬŽฬฟออ†ฬ‘ฬ”ฬ„ฬฟฬกอ”ฬคฬ–ฬขsฬดอ ฬฬ›ฬ›อ„อˆอฬฅอšฬฉอŽฬฃฬ™ฬ™ฬฎอštฬถฬ€ฬพอ—ฬ“อฬ€อ’อ‚ฬฬ”ฬฬฝฬšฬคฬป ฬดอ‹อ‚ฬพฬ‡ฬฬฝอ ฬซอ‰ฬชฬชอ”ฬบอ‡ฬฒอ–ฬ—ฬ™ฬŸyฬธออฬฝอ„ฬ‘ฬ›อ—ฬพอŒฬฅฬขฬบฬนอšฬนฬจอˆoฬทอ—ฬอฬฬŠฬ”ฬฟอ’อŠฬอ‰อˆอ‡อšฬฎฬขอˆฬฬผฬชฬปฬฆฬ˜ฬ—uฬธฬˆฬฬƒฬ‚อ˜อ†ฬฑฬฑฬจฬฅฬฆอ•ฬจ ฬดฬ†อ€ฬฝฬ‰ฬอ—อฬนฬžฬกsฬดฬƒอ„ฬ‰ฬŠฬฬ‚อ’อŠฬ‰อ˜อƒอฬˆฬ‡ฬฬผฬฬปฬœอ”อ”ฬฐฬ™lฬทฬฬขฬœฬฎอ–ฬปฬ–ฬฌอˆoฬทอƒฬฐฬ™wฬตอ›อœฬคฬจอ™ฬ˜ฬฃฬฌฬญฬ—ฬงอฬ˜อŽอlฬตอ›ฬฝอŠอ˜ฬ”ฬฬฝฬˆฬฝฬ–yฬตอ’ฬ‹ฬˆอ˜ฬฑฬขฬอ”ฬปฬ—ฬ อ™,ฬทอ€ฬ‡ฬ•อ„อ„ฬ›ฬ›ออฬ†อ€ฬ‹ฬพฬ‘ฬˆฬ‹ฬ†ฬฝอ„ฬ†อ‹ฬฬ›ฬ„อ›ฬ•อ’ฬ‘อออ˜อŠฬ€อ„อ˜ฬฝอฬ†ฬ’อ˜อ‹อฬออ„ฬƒอ†ฬฬšฬŽอฬ†ฬฑอ‡ฬฃอ•ฬกฬขฬฉฬŸฬฌฬอ‡ฬฐฬซอ–ฬฉอ“อ–ฬคฬฒฬกฬฉอšฬฐ ฬทฬ‹ฬฬ‡ฬ…ฬฝฬŒออฬ•อ†อ‹ออ อƒฬ€ฬ€ฬ“ฬ…ฬ„ฬอ›อ›อ‘อ˜อ›อ›ฬฬ†ฬ”ออ’ฬฬ“ฬ…อออƒฬŠอ˜ฬˆฬˆอ€อ˜อฬจอ–ฬฏฬžฬฌฬœฬฏฬฉอŽฬปฬณฬคอ…ฬผฬฏฬญฬžอฬฉฬซฬฉฬžอ‰อœฬฬžฬชฬปฬชฬŸอˆฬฆอ•อ‡ฬ–ฬคฬฎอšฬ—อ…ฬคอ•ฬฆฬงอ™ฬฑฬฒฬผฬŸฬ™ฬฬนฬณอ…ฬผaฬทฬ•อŒอŠฬ‘อ—ฬฬŒฬ’อŠอ‘อ‘ฬ’อ‹อƒฬŠอƒอ‘อ†ฬพฬ’อ›ฬ„ฬ”ฬ‹ฬฟอ—ฬƒอ„ฬ‹ฬ’อฬฬ‰อ›อŠฬอ‹ฬ‹อ„อ‚ฬ€ฬ‚ฬ‡ฬ„อฬ…ฬฬ•ฬฝอ‘อ•ฬ–ฬผฬฐฬ–ฬฌฬนฬ˜ฬฑฬผอ™ฬฏอ‡ฬ ฬคฬจฬชฬ˜อ–อ“ฬณฬฬขฬณฬ ฬฏฬฅฬ—ฬญฬนsฬดฬƒอ„ฬ‰ฬŠฬฬ‚อ’อŠฬ‰อ˜อƒอฬˆฬ‡ฬฬผฬฬปฬœอ”อ”ฬฐฬ™ ฬตอ˜ฬ€ฬŽฬ‹อฬšฬŠฬญอ™อ™อ“ฬฃฬŸฬœฬžฬอ“ฬฅฬผฬฆอ…ฬชฬผฬนฬฅฬœฬนฬฒอˆฬฬบฬžฬฬขอ…อ…ฬฬฒอšอ…อšอ‰ฬฑฬนฬ–ฬฃฬฉฬฐฬขอฬจฬญyฬดฬŠอฬƒฬพฬŽฬŽอ‹ฬ›ฬ…ฬ’ฬฬฬ”ฬ€อ ฬˆฬ“อฬออ—ฬฬ‹อ˜ฬ‰ฬพฬฝฬอ’ฬ’อ’อŒอ˜ฬ‘ฬฝอฬˆฬ…อ อฬ“อ‹ฬฟฬŽอ€อ อ‚อ˜อ˜ฬฟอ“ฬกอšฬ ฬบฬฑฬชอ”ฬนฬžอˆฬฎฬŸฬ–ฬฃฬฅฬงฬžฬ˜ฬŸอ–ฬฬผฬฏอœฬนฬฏฬญoฬทอ—ฬอฬฬŠฬ”ฬฟอ’อŠฬอ‰อˆอ‡อšฬฎฬขอˆฬฬผฬชฬปฬฆฬ˜ฬ—uฬธฬˆฬฬƒฬ‚อ˜อ†ฬฑฬฑฬจฬฅฬฆอ•ฬจ ฬดออ€ฬŠฬฟฬ“ฬอƒอ€อ›ฬ‹อ ฬ’อŠฬ‰ฬ†ฬ”อ„อ ออŠฬพฬ•อ„อ—ฬ•ฬ’อ‚ฬ‘ฬŽอŠฬŽฬฬฃฬซฬขฬ ฬ—ฬฅฬฐฬฏฬฒฬญฬ ฬ—ฬขฬŸฬฉฬปฬ˜ฬณฬฆฬฎฬฐฬญอ–ฬŸอšฬฬบฬฅอ‡ฬชฬฉฬปฬ™อ™ฬฏฬคฬ™อˆอ•อ•ออŽอ™ฬขอ•ฬปฬจfฬถฬพอฬอ‘ฬ€ออ’ฬƒฬ›ฬอ’อ‘ฬ‘อ†ฬฬพฬ‘ฬ’อฬ‰อƒฬ„ฬ“ฬ›ฬ‡อŠฬ‡อƒฬฝฬงฬญอˆฬชฬนฬบฬฃอ–eฬทฬ‡ฬฬ›ออ„อ‚ฬ‰ฬ’ฬ€ฬ’ฬ›ฬšฬ…ฬ‰อ‹อ„อ‘ฬ‡ฬ›อฬ‚ฬ‘อ‹ฬ‘ฬฟฬฟฬ†ฬ“อŒฬŽฬ™อ‰ฬคฬกอˆฬฆฬฐอœฬ–ฬนอ”อ–ฬอ”ฬกฬ—ฬฒอฬฏอ“อ–ฬฅฬชอ“อ‡อ‡อ–ฬŸอ•ฬฉอ–ฬŸฬฌeฬทฬฟอ†ฬˆฬ„ฬ›อŒอ—ฬˆฬอ‘อ’อ†อ›อŠอ‚อƒฬอ„ฬ…ฬŒฬ“อ—ฬ‰ฬ›ฬ”อ‹อŒฬอ†อ„ฬ’ฬ”ฬ‰อฬƒฬ†ฬŽฬ‚อ„ฬšฬˆฬนฬชฬ ฬณอ–ฬฌอ“ฬคฬŸฬณอ–อ™ฬฬขอœฬขอ…อ”ฬžฬžฬŸอ•อ‰ฬชฬซอšอœฬผฬฉฬผอ•ฬฐฬฑฬœฬผฬ™อŽอ”อ‰ฬปอ–ฬบฬบฬญฬฉอ‡ฬ—ฬฏฬขฬŸlฬธฬ‘ฬ‘อ˜อŠฬ‘อ€ฬ€ฬ„ฬฬฟอฬ†ฬ‘ฬ”ฬŠฬอ„ฬ‚ฬ…ฬŠอ‹อ‹ฬ“อ„ฬŠฬšอ‹อ„ฬ”ฬ…ฬ’อฬ…ฬšฬ‡ฬšฬออŠฬฬŒฬ‡ฬอ ฬฟฬŠอƒฬ•ฬฑฬจฬ–ฬฏฬซอ…ฬซฬ— ฬดฬ’ฬ‚อ‚อŒฬฟอ†อ˜อ€ฬฬฬฬ”ฬ”ฬพอฬฟฬ€ฬ”อออƒอ›ฬ†อƒฬ„อ‘ฬฟอƒฬ‰ฬพฬฬ›ฬ•ฬ€ฬฆฬฌอ‰ฬฃอˆฬขอ•ฬชอˆฬผฬ–ฬคฬฒฬบฬ–อ‡อ•ฬฅiฬดฬ’ฬšอ‘ฬฝฬˆฬญฬฬ–ฬคฬฃฬฏฬงฬฏฬŸฬขฬฌฬขฬขฬฑฬฑฬ™อœฬ™ฬชอšฬ–ฬกฬบฬ—อštฬทฬฬพอ—ฬฬ‡อ„ฬฟฬฟอ„อฬŽฬ›ฬ”ฬ…ฬฟอŒอ„อ€ฬฬ‘ฬŽฬ’อฬ•อ„อ ฬŠฬ‹ฬ‰อŠอ€อŠฬอŒอ’ฬ‹ฬ†ฬ’อ˜ฬ•อŠอ„ฬฬžฬ– ฬตอ—อ„อ’ฬฝอ ฬ…ฬšฬ•อ›ฬˆอฬ“ฬˆออ’อŠอฬฟฬ‘อƒฬˆอ†ฬ†อ‘อ ฬ„ฬฬฐอ‰ฬฑฬ™ฬฏอฬ™ฬญอ…ฬฐฬ ฬนฬŸฬซฬ–อ™ฬผฬฃอ”ฬ ฬปอ“ฬฒฬคฬจฬŸฬŸฬผฬปฬฅฬจอŽฬซฬบอ“อ™อ”ฬฏฬญฬ—อˆฬบอ“อ…ฬฆฬปฬซอ…ฬขอ”ฬฏอ‰ฬฑฬฎsฬธฬ€ฬฬ‘ฬฬพฬ“ฬ’อ†อฬšฬƒฬ“ฬฟอ‘อŒอ’ฬฬ„อฬอ€อฬฬƒอ—ฬฝอƒอฬ‡ฬฏอ–อŽฬฑฬ—อœฬญฬฆอ…อŽฬซฬบฬฉอ‰ฬฆฬฆอ•ฬชฬณอ”อ“ฬนฬฏอ”ฬฅอฬฆฬขฬฆoฬทอ—ฬอฬฬŠฬ”ฬฟอ’อŠฬอ‰อˆอ‡อšฬฎฬขอˆฬฬผฬชฬปฬฆฬ˜ฬ—wฬทฬˆฬ›ฬ„อ„ฬšฬฬอ›อฬ‡ฬ’อ อŒฬ€อ„อœฬฉฬอ‰อšฬคฬžฬฎฬ–ฬฬฉฬฐอŽฬฐฬผฬจฬ˜ฬกอ–ฬบฬขอœอ•ฬฬ—ฬนอ‰อ“ฬจฬกฬฆฬบฬฆฬคฬฆฬบอŽฬกอ•ฬŸฬบฬ˜ฬขอœฬกอ‰ฬ อ…ฬฅอ‡ฬœอ‡ฬฉฬฆฬฃฬคออšฬŸฬซlฬตอ„อฬอ‘ฬŠอ˜ฬ‡ฬ€ฬ•ฬ„อ€อ อ›ฬŒฬฟออฬพฬ‡อฬšฬ“อฬƒฬ„ฬ„ฬ›ฬ‡อ อฬ‰ฬˆฬ“ฬอ„ฬฟอ‹อƒฬ‹ฬพอŠฬอ˜อ อ„ฬ”ฬŒอ‚ฬฏฬผฬซฬ˜ฬฑฬญอˆฬŸฬ ฬ–ฬฃอ™ฬฏฬจฬฐฬบฬฒฬ˜ฬณอŽอ‡ฬ อ™ฬกฬบฬบฬกฬฆฬบฬนฬปอšอœฬฐฬฅyฬตออฬฬฬ›ฬฝฬ‹ฬฬฬอ˜ฬ€ฬพออ„อ€ฬ’ฬ‹ฬ›อฬšอฬ•อ‚อ›ฬ†อ†อ‹อŒฬอ˜อ‘อ€ฬฬ‡อ†อ‘อฬ•อ‘อ†ฬ”อ’ออŒอ„ฬ’อŒฬฬ’ฬนอ‰ฬชอœฬจฬบฬ™อšฬซฬ—ฬฃฬชฬฎฬปอ–อ“ cฬถออฬฝอ„ฬ‹อ‹ฬฬ‘ฬŽอ‹อ„ฬ†ฬฝฬ‹ฬŽฬ‰อ›ฬˆฬ„ออ†ฬฬƒอŠอฬ‡ฬ›ฬ†อฬ‡อฬ„ฬ›อฬ‘ฬ‹ฬ„อ‹อƒฬอฬฟฬˆฬพฬอ„ฬ€ฬƒฬ‘อ ฬšฬฝออƒอฬฬ‡ออฬŽฬ‡อฬ…ฬฏฬกฬผฬปฬบฬฐฬฒอŽฬซอ‡ฬฬฉฬณฬคฬฌฬญฬฅฬฒอ‰อŽฬฬฑฬฎฬ™ฬฬฎฬนฬ–ฬฎฬฉอˆฬ ฬฑอˆอ…ฬ™อ‡อ“ฬฑฬฑอ‰ฬ—ฬฌฬชฬ ฬญฬซฬฒฬฬบฬ™อ”ฬคฬ—ฬ˜อ•ฬ—ฬนฬคฬ–ฬฬฌฬกฬนฬ™ฬ™อ•อ•ฬผฬจฬฉอ–ฬฉอ•ฬฏฬงฬฉฬฏฬœฬกฬ อ‰ฬฆฬฎฬฬ˜ฬŸฬฅอ•ฬบฬฅฬคฬซฬชฬฅอŽอˆฬฒฬนฬขฬ˜ฬปอ‡อ–ฬžฬฎoฬทอ—ฬอฬฬŠฬ”ฬฟอ’อŠฬอ‰อˆอ‡อšฬฎฬขอˆฬฬผฬชฬปฬฆฬ˜ฬ—nฬดฬ‡อ€อ อ‘ฬ›ฬ’ฬฬ‚อ’ออ’ฬŽฬฟอ’ฬ„ฬฝอ‚อฬŠฬ‰อ‘ฬฬˆอ‘ฬ€ฬ…ฬ˜ฬฎฬฏฬฉฬฒฬนฬ—อ‡อ™ฬกฬฌฬซฬฌอˆฬอšฬ–ฬœอ‰อ‡ฬ™ฬŸอ–ฬฉฬซฬ˜ออ“ฬ—ฬฉอ”ฬฏฬปฬฎฬฉฬขฬณอ•ฬกฬ–ฬฃฬนฬœอ”ฬžฬซอฬฅอ…ฬอšฬฉออŽฬผฬอ™ฬฬฌฬบอ“ฬ™ฬ–อšฬฎอœอ™ฬžฬฏอ–ฬปฬ–อฬงฬผฬฌฬผฬจฬผอšฬ–ฬอŽฬฏฬปอ•ฬฅอ‡ฬœฬฐอˆฬฅอšอ–ฬฒอ“ฬนอ‡ฬ ฬ–ฬฎฬœฬฆฬกอŽฬžอŽฬœอ“อ™ฬซฬซฬฌฬœอœฬœฬฆอ–ฬžอ™ฬซฬงฬจอ•ฬฒฬงฬงฬฒฬบฬ—ฬฎฬจฬชฬฐฬกฬนฬฒฬฎฬœอŽอˆฬฅฬญฬ™อ”ฬขsฬดฬ€ฬ›อฬ‹ออ€ฬ“อŒฬ‹ฬ‹ฬอ‚ฬ†ฬ•ฬ‹อ’อฬŒฬ†ฬŒฬˆฬ‰อƒฬŠฬƒฬ”อฬฝอ‚อ‘อ˜ฬ‚ฬ‰อ‚ฬ…ออ„อ„อ‚ออŒฬฬˆอŒอ‚ฬ’ฬ“ฬ‰อ›ฬ‡ฬ…ฬฝอ’อƒอ›อฬ‰ฬ‡ฬŒฬ‘ฬฟอ›ฬ‡อ อ ฬ“ฬ•ออŒอฬ‹ฬ„ฬ’ฬอ˜ฬ‹ฬ”อŒฬ“อ€ฬ”อ†ฬ‰อฬ“ฬฬฝอ›ฬ•ฬ‚อฬ‹อฬ‚ฬŽฬ‘ฬ€อ†ฬ†ฬ‡ฬ•ฬอ›ฬ€ฬ†ฬ’ฬ†ฬŽอ›อ„ฬ„ฬˆฬ“ฬ…อ†ฬ‚อƒอ€ฬ„ฬพอ‹อ‚ฬฟอƒฬฬƒฬ–ฬ—ฬงฬ ฬฐฬขฬนอ™อ•ฬขฬฐฬขฬบฬกฬฅฬžอ‡อฬซอšฬปอฬ™อ‰ฬฎอšอฬ—อ‰ฬ–ฬจฬ˜ฬฐฬฌฬนอ–ฬญฬฃฬนฬฑอ”ฬบอ‡ฬ–ฬฎฬนฬฐอ™ฬฏฬฑฬžฬฐฬฬอšฬฬญฬ–ฬฉฬ—ฬขฬœฬฎฬฐฬŸฬกฬ˜ฬžฬจฬกอŽอฬฐuฬดฬ‡ฬšฬอฬŠอ˜ฬ‡ฬŽฬ“อฬฟฬ’ฬฬฟอ˜ฬฃอšฬ อŽฬซฬฑฬญฬ™อ…ฬปฬฌฬ—ฬฃอŽฬฃฬปฬœฬžฬขฬฏฬงฬปฬฌอ‡ฬฑฬงอ‡ฬคอ”ฬžฬฌฬณฬฉฬฃฬฌอšอ™ฬฉฬ™ฬปฬฒฬปฬ–ฬงอ“อ‰ฬ ฬ—ฬฬขอ‰อ–อ•อ™ฬณอ“ฬงฬญฬบอˆฬ—ฬฆฬชฬ™ฬฐฬฃอ”ฬงอ“ฬ ฬฆฬฑฬฑฬคฬฑอ–ฬซฬฅอ•อฬฉฬฎฬฑฬฆอ”ฬณฬฆฬฑอ•ฬจอŽฬ˜ฬซฬฐอ–ฬ™ฬžฬฃฬฬฅอŽฬคอ•ฬฐอฬŸออŽฬŸฬฎอ”ฬฐฬกฬนอ‰อ–ฬบอ‡ฬฌฬงอ“ฬงฬฒอšฬฐฬงอ…ฬ˜ออ•ฬฎฬฑฬซฬ–ฬบอ‰ฬซฬฆฬ—ฬปอ–อ–ฬผอˆฬฒฬชฬ ฬงฬจฬฌอ…ฬปฬงอ“mฬถฬ„ฬŒฬ†ฬ•อƒฬšฬ‰ฬ€ฬˆอ„อ„อ„อ˜ฬ…ฬ‘อ—ออŒฬฬ‚อ‚ฬอ อŠฬอ’ฬอƒฬŠฬŽอƒอฬฬˆฬฝฬƒฬšอ€อ†ฬŒฬฬŽฬ›อ‚ฬŒฬ”อ‘ฬฬ€ฬ„อ‘อŠฬฬ•ฬ”อŠฬ„ฬ‰ฬ…ฬŠฬฬ‡ฬ‹อ‘ฬ‚อฬ‰ฬƒอ‚อŒฬ†ฬ•อฬฟฬˆฬ›อออ€ฬ†อƒฬŒอŠอ‘ฬˆฬŒอ›ฬอ„ฬ“อ„ฬฬŒอŒฬ‹ฬฬŠอ—ออฬŠฬˆฬ›ฬ“อ†ฬ‡อฬ…ฬ†ฬ‰ฬŒฬออฬฟฬฝฬฬ…ออ‚อ†อฬŒอ‘อฬ“ฬ‹อ‹อ€อ‚ฬฬฝอฬ‡ฬอ‹ฬ„อ’ฬฬพอฬ•ฬ›ฬพฬ”ฬพฬออ’ฬˆฬอ ฬ†ฬ‹ออƒอ ฬฟฬฬอฬ‡อ ฬƒฬ€ออฬ›ฬŽฬ‹อ‚อœฬ—ฬฬผฬญฬฅฬนอ‰ฬชฬ™อ‡ฬฉอ‡ฬปฬฬนฬฬซฬปอ”ฬชอ‡ฬณฬฬฆฬฎอ…อ‡ฬฒฬฅฬ—อ–ฬฏฬขฬฐฬงฬ˜ฬฌอ•ฬฎฬฏฬกฬขอ™ฬฆฬ—ฬนอˆอ™อ…ฬžฬปฬœอ”ฬผฬฏอ“ฬซอšอ–ฬคอ™ฬจอ•ฬกฬฎฬฆอ…อ“ฬซอŽฬœฬกฬออ–ฬžฬฆอ”ฬ™ฬฆฬฎฬŸฬฐฬฒฬซฬฆอ‰ฬปฬผอ™อŽอˆฬฃอšฬ˜ฬžอ…อ“ฬอ‰ฬ–อœอ”อŽฬ—ฬจออ…ฬฎฬนฬงอˆอ“ฬผอšฬคฬนฬžฬฬ–ฬจอ–ฬขอšอ‡ฬ™อšอŽฬซฬซอ”ฬอฬฏฬžฬ—อ™ฬฃฬ˜ฬขฬกฬฒอšอˆฬฐฬฉฬปฬนฬญฬฎฬœeฬทฬŠฬ•อ†อ‘ฬ‘อŠอฬ’อ˜ฬ‚ฬˆฬšอ—ฬˆอƒฬฟฬ‰อ‘อ อ†ฬŠอ‘อ„ฬอ’ฬ‹อŒฬฬฝฬอ‘ฬŒฬพออ‚ฬฬŠอ‘อ˜ฬŠอ‘ฬฟฬ†อ—ฬŒฬ€อ–ฬฑฬ™ฬ–อšฬ™ฬฒฬฒฬชฬฒฬซอˆฬชฬ ฬŸฬฬŸอ‡ฬนฬกฬฎฬ˜ฬฉอ“ฬ อ™ฬฒฬขฬžฬฉฬŸฬ˜อšฬฉฬฅฬงฬœอˆอšฬฐฬขฬชฬฉฬกฬณฬปอŽฬชฬฌอ…อ‰อ…ฬนฬกฬคฬนอœฬกฬžฬ™อ“sฬตฬพฬ‡ฬ‡ฬŠอ‹ฬ‡ฬ‹ฬ‡ฬฟฬ’อ ฬฬŠฬพฬ’อŒอ ฬˆออ‹ฬฟฬ“ฬ•ฬˆอ›อ€อ‹ฬ‡ฬšฬ‰ฬ‡ฬพอ„อ‘ออ—อฬอŒฬ„ฬƒฬˆฬŽอ‚ฬ‘อฬอฬ›ฬŽออƒอฬšฬƒอ˜ฬ€ฬŠฬˆอฬšฬƒฬŠฬอฬƒฬ‘ฬพอ˜อ ออ‹อ€ฬšอฬ‚ฬŠฬอŒอ„ฬฬอƒฬ›ฬšฬฬ€ฬ‡ฬ‹อฬฟฬ…อ€ฬฟฬ›ฬ›อ‚ฬ’ฬ„ฬˆฬอŒฬฟฬ‡ฬˆอ‹ออƒอ‘ฬ”อ›อฬฟฬ”ออฬอ„ฬŒฬออ€ออ„ฬ„ฬƒฬšอ€ฬพอ ฬฟอŠฬŽอ’อ˜ฬ†ฬอŒอ›ฬ€ฬ„ฬƒอƒฬŠฬ‚อ—อ—ฬŒฬŽฬฑฬงอ”ฬบฬฬ—ฬ—ฬ–ฬฎฬคฬŸฬชฬนฬ—ฬจฬ˜อ–ฬณฬซอฬฃฬฉฬนอ‡อ“อ–อ‡ฬขอœฬฆอ‰อ‰อ…อ•ฬจอ•ฬฅฬจฬŸฬฑอ–ฬฃฬนฬฃฬฑฬฉฬฃฬ™ฬฒออ™ฬขฬฅฬขอŽฬฎฬ ฬฐฬณฬฎฬชอ‰ฬกฬนฬฐอ‡ฬฑฬฃฬฆอฬœฬฉฬฏอŽฬžฬฑอ‰ฬ–อ…ฬปฬฅฬคฬžฬกฬžฬปฬกฬฉฬ™อ“ฬฎอŽฬฅฬจฬซฬ–ฬบอ–อ“อ‡ฬ—ฬผฬฏอ–ฬฬณฬฑฬปฬซฬฎฬœฬฎฬœฬอ…ฬฒฬ™ฬปฬ ฬฎอ…ฬ™อˆอ–อ–ฬ™ฬคอ•ฬฉฬฬฏอšฬžฬœฬณ ฬดอ—ฬ‹อŒฬ†ฬŠอ„ฬ€ฬŠอ’ฬ„ฬพอ‘ฬ‡อ‚ฬ…อŠฬ‡ฬ‰อ›อ’ฬŒฬ‚อ ฬ•อ’อ‚ออ ฬพอฬ‡ฬ†ฬ”ฬšอŠฬ‚ฬ…อ„อ„ฬฟอ‹ฬ‘ฬ”ออˆอ“อ”ฬŸฬฑฬขฬŸอ‰อ•อ…ฬฌฬฏฬŸอ“ฬฐฬฆอ‰อ“ฬžฬผฬญฬ อ”อ™ฬฌฬฉอฬ อŽฬฌฬซฬฉอ‰อˆฬฒฬบฬนอ•ฬ—ฬฬฌฬฅอ“ออˆฬชฬฆฬจฬชฬฉฬชฬจฬฎฬบฬปฬฎอ™ฬขฬฏอ“อ“ฬฅอ“ฬœฬœอฬขฬ ฬคฬกฬฌฬฃฬกฬจฬฉอ”ฬคฬญอ™ฬนฬฒฬฃอ–ฬนฬขอ“อšอˆอ‰ฬฉฬ–อ”ฬขอ”อŽอ•ฬขอ‡อœฬœอ…อ‡ฬฅฬคฬฏอ”ฬกอฬงฬขอšอšฬฎฬ ฬฉอ“ฬญฬฌอŽอ‡ฬฌฬฅฬจฬ ฬฑฬฃฬณฬซอ™อ”อœyฬตอƒอ„ฬ€อ‹ฬ‡ฬฬ‡ฬŠฬ‘อ—ฬอ‘ออ‚ฬฬšอ‹ฬ‘ฬฬšอ‹ฬ‹ฬŠฬฬ’อฬพฬฟอ‹อออ„ฬšอฬˆฬฬฟอ€อ—ฬ’ฬฬšอ—ฬฬ‘อ ออ„อ‘ฬฟฬƒฬ†ฬ›ฬ€ฬ‘ฬ”อ˜อ†ฬŠออ›อŒฬ€อ€อ†ฬŽฬ‘ฬอ‚ฬƒฬฬ”อ†ฬƒอ’อ—ฬฬ‰ฬ…ฬ›ฬ‹ฬ‡ออ—อ†อ„ฬšอ‹ฬ’ฬ€ฬ‘ฬƒฬ€ฬอฬ‡อฬŒฬŠออ‹อ€ฬ•อ‹ฬ‚ฬอ’ฬ“ฬŒฬ‚ฬอฬ‚อฬ•อ‚อ›ออฬ„ฬŠฬฝอ„ฬšอ อ‚ฬšฬˆอ—ฬ‡ฬจฬฃอšฬผฬ อ‰อŽอœฬกอ“อˆฬผอŽอœฬฎฬ˜อ“อ•ฬŸอ‰อ…ฬผฬฃฬงฬŸอŽฬ–ฬ™ฬฌฬซฬฑฬฒอŽฬฬฃฬ—อ•อ“ฬŸอ‰อ‡ฬ˜อœอ“ฬฒฬฉฬฃฬฒอ™ฬฬฌฬขฬžฬฆฬบฬบฬŸฬ–อ…อ™ฬกฬŸอ…ฬงฬŸอšฬŸฬงฬฐอšฬญฬกอˆฬฆฬ ฬคอ•ฬผฬ–ฬณฬงอŽอ…ฬžออšฬ–ฬฃฬฉฬ อ“ฬฉฬ™อ‡ฬžฬญอ…ฬชฬจฬปอˆอ…อ”ฬณฬณอ™ฬญฬผอ‰ฬฒอ…อ•อ“อ‡ฬญฬบฬงฬฎฬฌฬขฬขฬฅฬกฬกฬฬฃฬฃฬอŽฬฎฬขฬŸอŽฬ อ•ฬฌอˆฬฌฬบฬ—ฬฬœอฬ˜oฬดฬ‹ฬอ‹อ€ฬ‘อ‹ฬ’อ‹อ„อ‚ฬ’อ†อ’อ‹ฬฝฬ„อŠฬƒฬ‡ฬ“ฬŽฬ•ฬŠฬ‘ฬ’ฬ’ฬ†อ—ฬ‘ฬฬอ€ฬƒอŒอ„อ˜ฬ‡ออŠฬ‚อฬฬ€อ€ฬ€ฬšฬ‘ฬ‘ฬ€ฬ•อ‹ฬฬ‹ฬอฬออ„อ อ†อฬŽฬอ˜อ‘ฬฬ“ฬ…ออ‚ฬŠฬ†อ ฬ’ฬ†อฬƒฬ†อ›ฬŽฬ“ฬƒฬอ˜ฬ€ฬ›อ—ฬ„ฬณฬซฬฏฬชฬนฬณฬœฬงฬ ฬฃฬ–ฬœฬฌอ–ฬปฬ–ฬฅฬฃฬฉอ“ฬฆอ‰ฬชอ“อŽฬฬบฬฌอ…อšฬขอ•ฬฎฬซอ‡อ–ฬผฬ™อšฬงอ‰อ‰ฬฅฬ—อŽอšฬฬบฬ ฬงฬฒฬฉอ“ฬฏฬขอŽฬฐฬปฬฃฬ˜อ‡ฬคอฬจอ•ฬซอ•ฬฒฬžฬฆฬ ฬจอšฬ–ฬคฬŸฬžอ”ฬœฬฏฬผฬจฬ–อ…อ™ฬฎฬชฬ ฬบฬฌฬจฬœฬฆอ”ฬœฬ™ฬฬฒฬฆฬขฬ˜อฬฉอœอ™ฬœฬฑฬ–อšฬคฬ—ฬบอ“อ•ฬฎฬชฬฐฬนอœอ–ฬ อ–ฬฅฬจฬญฬชฬ อ“ฬ™ฬžฬปฬ™อฬขอšฬผฬฎฬฐฬงฬœฬ ฬฬซฬฌอœฬขฬฎฬบuฬทอ˜ฬอฬ…ฬ‡ฬ“อ€อ†ฬ‘ฬšฬ†อ›ฬ†อ‘ฬ‡ฬฝอŒอฬฝอ ฬฝอ—ออŒอ€ฬฝอ˜อ ฬ•อ†ฬ„อ„ฬ…อ—อ ฬšอ€ออฬ”อฬพอ›ฬอƒอŒอฬอ‚ฬฟฬ”ฬ‹อฬˆอ‘ฬ„ฬ€อŠฬŽฬฐอ•ฬญอฬฆฬกอœฬงฬงอ‰ฬผฬปrฬทฬ†ออƒฬ‚อ€ฬŒออ„ฬ’อฬฝอ‚ฬ€อ อƒฬ†ฬ“ฬŒฬฟฬŽฬอŠฬˆฬฬƒฬ„ฬฬ…ฬ’ฬ‘อ›ฬ“อออ˜ฬฬ’ฬอ˜ฬŽอ‹ฬฟอ ฬฝอฬอŒอ›ฬŽฬ›ฬšอ‹อ’อ‘ฬ›ฬ‚ฬŒอ ฬฬ…อออ—ฬ•อ˜อ‚ออ›ฬ€อ„ฬฎ ฬทอ‚ฬ„ฬพอ’ฬ„อŠฬฬฟฬ„อ›ฬอ˜ฬŽอ‹ฬ€อ˜ฬฝอ‹ฬŠอ•อฬคอ•ฬคอ•อ“อ“ฬงฬžอ–ฬฒฬ˜ฬอฬกฬžอšอฬบอ‡อŽอ‰อ™อœฬฏฬฉฬปอ“ฬ ฬฎฬขฬญอ–อœฬ™ฬ อ‰อ“ฬฌฬ—ฬฒฬชฬฉอ–hฬทอ„ออ‘ฬšฬŽฬฬ…อŒฬŠอ„ออ„อ‚ฬ“ฬ‘ฬ•ฬŠอŒอฬฟอ„อƒฬอ›ฬ…ฬฬฟฬฬฟฬ‚อ†อ›ฬŽอƒฬšอ’อ†ฬ‡อ„อŠฬอ†ฬ‡อ—ฬˆฬšฬพฬฝอ†ฬขฬ—ฬงฬซฬฆอœฬ˜อˆฬปอ“อ‰ฬบฬณฬคอ…ฬฎฬ˜ฬงอ…ฬญฬฅอ‰ฬฎอฬฃฬผอˆฬคฬŸฬฐฬผฬŸฬซฬฏฬ˜ฬ˜ฬฏฬฎฬฅฬฐอšฬžฬฎฬจฬจฬ อ™ฬคฬฅฬ˜ฬ–ฬฏฬขฬซอ”ฬฏฬœอ‡ฬŸอˆอ•ฬฅฬกฬฐฬฆอˆฬฆฬคฬ–ฬซอˆฬญฬฅฬ˜ฬžฬžฬŸฬปฬกฬกอ•eฬดอ‹ฬˆอƒฬƒอ›ฬŠฬ€อฬ›ฬŽฬ„ฬŒฬ“อ ฬฝฬŒอฬšฬฝฬŠฬ’อ—อฬƒอฬฟอฬŒฬ„ฬฟฬฬŠอ›ฬ…อ„อ†อ›ฬ’ฬฬŠอ‹ฬˆอฬพฬฬพอ—อ—ฬ”อฬ€ฬ›ฬ‡ฬ‚อ˜ฬอ อ›อƒอ‘ฬ‘ฬŽฬ”ออ อ‹ฬŽฬ‹อƒฬบฬฆฬฆอ“ฬ ฬ–อœฬ˜อ”อŽฬฬชฬฆฬฌฬซฬฏอŽฬฎฬฆฬขฬฃaฬทฬ’ฬออ ฬฝอŠอ„อฬ‹อƒอŠฬ’ฬŽอƒออ’ฬฝออ›ฬ‰อƒฬ‚ฬ‚อฬ‚อ’อ—อฬ„อ‘อ›ฬ†ฬƒฬฬ’ฬ“อ„ฬ‘อ’ฬ”ฬ‘ฬŒฬ€ฬˆฬŒฬ“ฬ„ฬ’อ€ฬพฬ‹ฬออ€ฬ‰ฬ‹ฬ€ฬ•ฬฟอ ฬ‡อ˜อฬอ„ฬฟอ›ฬŠออ‹ฬˆอŒฬ“อ‚ฬŠอŒอ ฬฝฬ‚ฬ„อ„อ‚ฬ‘ฬŠฬ„ฬฬพฬ‘อฬฝอ†ฬ“อ„ฬšฬ›อ„อ‘ฬพฬพฬ€ฬฟอŠฬอฬพอ›ฬ“อ˜อ‹ฬ‡อŠอ›ฬ‡อŒฬฟอ‚อŠฬ‚ฬŽฬพฬ‹ฬ‹อ„อ„ฬŒฬ•ฬพอ„ฬ›ฬ„ฬฬ‡ฬฬฬšฬ’ฬพฬฬ‰อ‘อฬ•อ—ฬฬ‚อ’อ„อ‹ฬ‚ฬ’ออ‚ฬ„ฬ‰อ‹อ’อฬ…ฬŠฬšฬออŒอ อ‰ฬชอ–อ”อ“อŽอ‡ฬณอ™อ•อ“ฬœฬจฬซฬปฬฎฬฒฬ–ฬ˜ฬฏฬณฬญฬŸฬนฬบฬฑฬซอ‡อ”ฬฃฬปฬผฬฎอ‰ฬฏฬฐฬฏฬคฬผฬบอšฬ™ฬ—อ…อ•ฬจฬกฬžฬคฬฬฅฬฅอ‡ฬ™ฬกฬคฬปอ™ฬผฬฑฬฑอšฬผฬปฬฌฬฅฬฉฬ อ–ฬฏฬฬ–อ•ฬกอฬ˜ฬฌฬปฬปอ…ฬผฬผอ“อœอ‡ฬงฬกฬชฬ˜ฬฉtฬธฬพฬŠฬ’อ—ฬšอ’ฬ‘ฬ‹อ„อฬฬ‰ฬŒฬˆอ‹ฬอŒฬŽอ„อ˜ฬ’อ†ฬฬ„ออ„ฬ‚ฬ…อฬ„อ‘อŠออฬ”ฬ„ฬ’ฬƒฬ›ฬฝฬ‹ฬ†ฬ„ฬ•ฬƒฬŽฬˆฬ›ฬ„ฬƒฬฬ„ฬ›ฬฝอ†ฬ…อฬ†อฬ›อ—ฬฬ“ฬ‡ฬŠอ‘อ˜ฬฬฬŠฬ‹ฬ•อฬˆอ‹ฬ€อ‚ฬŽฬ“อฬˆอ—อ„ฬ†ฬˆอฬ‡อ„อ‹ฬฬ†อ’ฬ‹ฬšฬ”ฬฬ‰ฬŽฬ‘ฬฟอ„อ‚ฬ•อฬˆฬ›อฬ‹อฬšฬŽฬอ ฬฝอŒอ„ฬ‹อ‘อ†อ—ฬ’ฬฬ•อ อ„อ†ฬŽอ‚อ„อ˜ฬ‰ฬ‘ฬฝฬฝอ‘ฬ€อŠฬฌฬฉอ‰ฬขอ–ฬซฬ™ฬžฬฑฬ˜ฬฅฬœอ”ฬปฬ ฬ–ฬ–ฬฆอœฬชฬžฬผฬฒฬ—อ…ฬขอœฬปฬ ฬ อ™ฬงฬฑฬ–ฬ˜ฬฏฬผฬขฬจฬฑอ”อšฬฎอ‰ฬผฬœฬฏอ‰ฬบอ‡ฬ—ฬ™ฬจอ‡อ…ฬ อ‰อ–อ‰ฬฅอ‡ฬฏฬฌฬกฬ–ฬซฬงฬฅฬจอ‡ฬญอ”ฬ™ฬงฬปฬ™อฬผฬฑฬŸฬปฬซอšฬฏอ”ฬ ฬบฬœอŽอ‡อˆอ•ฬžอ”ฬบฬปฬขฬœฬกอ–อ™อ‰อ™อฬฉฬ ฬจฬฅฬฅฬซอ…ฬฌอ”ฬกฬฒฬœฬ–ฬญฬฒฬฅฬผฬฉฬชฬณฬฉอ…ฬฑฬฐฬฎฬกอ”ฬœฬ˜ฬฎฬกฬนฬŸฬนฬก,

TheUglyBarnacle42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:19 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Check out Coober Pedy

jpizzle1232 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:09 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It absolutely is cool. It can get pretty scary sometimes though because of how dangerous the work can be.

FalconsSuck ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:27:23 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œbeautiful โ€˜cleanโ€™ coalโ€

โ€” POTUS

smh

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:57:05 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was looking at this thinking "nah, my job is pretty chill. Great pay, benefits, unlimited coffee and lemonade, nice office."

teacher_mom53 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:04:35 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My husband is a coal miner. Yes it is! We joke that I have a college degree (teacher) and he makes more money than me. His job sucks a whole lot more than mine though.

asteroidkicker ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:26:13 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

mine

kybernetikos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:50 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Fig-2-A-fireman-igniting-firedamp-In-Catholic-countries-the-fireman-was-sometimes-called-the_266855119_fig1 Now that's a job I wouldn't want - dressing up in wet rags and igniting flammable gas in flimsy tunnels below ground. No wonder they called him 'the penitent'.

Dakdied ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:04 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking seriously! Have you seen how deep they go? I have nothing but respect. Couldn't do it to save my life.

Rift3N ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:21 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

At least they make a fuckton of money

one_game_will ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:46 on February 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Electricity goes down and you're trapped underground for 30 hours.

WaterMagician ยท 1582 points ยท Posted at 21:32:26 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Tehnoobbrothers ยท 404 points ยท Posted at 21:46:47 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Tbh I thought this was r/wholesomememes lol

AluminumJacket ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:07:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ditto

manza5012 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:35:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The literal Play-Dohยฎ Pokรฉmon.

TheRealCJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I always thought Ditto had a texture more like Gak or Silly Putty...

CheetoMussolini ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:45:08 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The man in the picture looks very kind and wholesome.

WEIGHED ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:51:11 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If he ain't a meme yet, he should be. Maybe like Unexpected Encouraging Miner or something.

Rockadudel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:42 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You gain nothing by adding 'tbh' and lose nothing without it

Tehnoobbrothers ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Rockadudel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:24:36 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

K. But most folks don't actively beg for responses. Maybe just step your language diversity up.

Tehnoobbrothers ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:38 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not begging for responses. Nice troll, though.

Tehnoobbrothers ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:21 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Rockadudel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:22 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's something there about saying you don't want a response and then continuing the conversation, but I am not sure what to call it.

Tehnoobbrothers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's called baiting.

Rockadudel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So you're baiting, ah okay.

splitSeconds ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:28:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. Someone should x-post.

[deleted] ยท -37 points ยท Posted at 00:57:48 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

/r/WholesomeMemes doesnโ€™t deserve this

vitoriobt7 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:12:52 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thats so not wholesome

[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:37:27 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nope.

monkwren ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:27:43 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
g0_west ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:04:19 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I read the bottom text sarcastically.

_logic-bomb_ ยท -38 points ยท Posted at 01:07:55 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is sarcastic. They are just too caught up in the wholesome fad to see it for what it is.

Flashman_H ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:18:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a cynical person by nature and I didn't read it that way. Guess it's subjective

remedyremedy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry buddy i guess that logic bomb was too much for you?

Flashman_H ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:43:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bad day huh bro? It'll be better tomorrow

remedyremedy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Doubt it

NotAMinecrafter ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:05:40 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

downvotes

heyyyyyy Wait a minute....

looks at name above

upvotes

gruesomeflowers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:55:53 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There's literal nothing sarcastic abt the bottom statement, you absolute piece of spinach in the teeth of an otherwise pleasant smile.

_logic-bomb_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:01 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

you absolute piece of spinach in the teeth of an otherwise pleasant smile

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜

vitoriobt7 ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 01:13:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

There should be a sarcasm tag on reddit. Like srsly

Welcome_Reddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:53 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Are you being sarcastic right now?

vitoriobt7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:24 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

See what i mean? Hehuhehe

TheRealDuHass ยท 569 points ยท Posted at 22:43:30 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
dawizard2579 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 02:03:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
ABircch ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 00:46:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That would be an amazing sub for reposting this image every day :D

bionicstarsteel ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:06:18 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We could even make slight variations by changing the photo and switching the color of the text.

aluminumdome ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:18:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
StupidQuestionAskers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But this isn't gatekeeping. It's just /r/wholesomemems

lax_incense ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
ElConvict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"You cannot access this subreddit."

Ironic, isn't it?

b4ux1t3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Drfilthymcnasty ยท 535 points ยท Posted at 01:57:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The thing is, if you are a good/hard worker, every job is tough. You either give 100% or you donโ€™t. I grew up working construction, primarily masonry, with my father and now Iโ€™m a pharmacist. Each job is equally difficult because in each job Iโ€™m trying my absolute best to succeed.

[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:24:57 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I hate dem memes "if your boyfriends hands don't look like this, you have a girfriend" with a picture of greasy hands.

Omggggg

bPhrea ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:09:34 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"If the person giving you a handjob doesn't have hands that look like this, then find someone who moisturises their hands."

PkHutch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:55 on June 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I almost got a blister from vacuuming my apartment. I'm a dude current studying Computer Science and my hands are soft as hell, moisturize people!

teacher_mom53 ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 02:13:38 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Best comment I've read.

Drfilthymcnasty ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 02:57:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. Was worried I would come off pretentious or preachy, which is not my intention. The great thing about it is anyone can give 100% ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:43:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

MORE EMOJIS!!! but seriously, you didn't. We all have to give it our all to succeed!

PoncioPilatos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ†

teacher_mom53 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:35 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not at all!! It was refreshing to read. My husband's a coal miner and his job is way more physically demanding than mine, and I'm a teacher so mine is more mentally demanding and stressful. We are both hard workers and appreciate each other's occupations. They're all hard if give it your best effort!

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:34:20 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nah. It was just straight nonsense. I didn't sense pretension.

It all depends on your skill sets, mindset and how much you enjoy your job. Giving it 100 does not change that.

YungEducatedBuffMan ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:55 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you did come off that way.

shyphon ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:27:18 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is honestly the truth. I worked for a grocery store and sure, lifting a ton and putting stuff on shelves for 40 hours a week is rough. Now I work as an assistant at a funeral home, and I spend all day giving 100% to comfort families, help grieve, make sure the services go smoothly, drive the hearse, etc. Both jobs were hard, one physically and one emotionally, and I respect anyone doing any job to its fullest.

Calevara ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:51:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno, I work as a network engineer, which I bust my ass driving a lot, and do my best to kick ass wherever I go, and would agree mostly with your statement, but I work in hospitals, and let me tell you I often feel like I'm an overpaid layabout when I watch nurses at work. Tough takes on such a deeper more psychological inflection when you are watching a nurse in the nicu (neo-natal intensive care unit) rushing to a room with a bunch of alarms and screaming parents. Doctors often have the ability to put a little distance between them and the personal, nurses seem to embrace it. They are all amazing and a little insane and have taken the top spot in my hero pantheon.

downy_syndrome ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:46:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can you explain "busting your ass driving a lot", please. I want to know if it pertains to me....

Calevara ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:48 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol my specific job requires me to provide support at hospitals all over the three or so states I cover.

downy_syndrome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Busy and driving a lot? or insane maneuvers in a ambulance with an insane man and an arrow in his head.

Calevara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:01 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn... Now I want that job....

downy_syndrome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:11 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Alright. Just checking. I'm only good at one thing and since dominoes cancelled 30 minutes or less, it's not a viable option.

emtreme5856 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:47:56 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love this. My boyfriend is a construction worker and Iโ€™m an academic. We both have such respect for each otherโ€™s jobs. I always comment on his strong work ethic and how hard he works. He doesnโ€™t feel attractive when he gets home because heโ€™s dirty, but I tell him it just shows how hard he worked that day. And when Iโ€™m stressed about everything I have going on and all my interactions with people and fall asleep at 8:30 pm, he says my job is tiring because I use my mind all day. And when we talk about our diets, he says I should eat more because mental expenditures cost a lot of calories. We both work hard in this life, and we appreciate what the other gives. But I hate seeing him come home sore and injured, and I hope one day it wonโ€™t be so.

dillcoq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:04:48 on February 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I like this, exact same situation.

Cannot tell you how I wish I took school seriously.

Don't get me wrong, I respect all hard working jobs especially construction workers like myself but damn getting up at 5am everyday and shovelling shit 10 hours a day can be rough some times.

I only hope I am smart enough to have a go at tertiary education and "escape" one day if you will haha.

LtVincentHanna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:43 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for this comment. I always find myself whining to myself about greener grasses elsewhere, but I think I'd have the same work concerns anywhere. Makes me appreciate where I am :)

bassman2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Totally with you on this. Prior to college, I worked in both construction and maintenance. I came home every night physically exhausted and covered in cuts.

I'm now a professional programmer. I can say with honesty that I love my job, but equally, I regularly put in more hours than I've ever put into any other job. In the end, it is even more draining than those physically intensive ones purely because of how much effort I exert on a daily basis.

You're absolutely right, it's about putting in 100%. The activity itself makes little difference, it's all about the resolve.

The_Real_Stannis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wew, that's the best comment i've read in months

Butthole_Alamo ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 01:07:09 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

To be honest, Iโ€™m sure his job is much harder than mine.

41BottlesOf ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 01:53:13 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

One of the toughest jobs underground is working on the โ€œbull gangโ€. Advancing belt and power to keep the units as close to the coal face as possible.

Ran a bill gang crew for a few years and I wouldnโ€™t wish that job on a prison chain gang.

I still have mad respect for some other professions, especially guys working out in the weather... we donโ€™t have that problem underground.

AWFUL_COCK ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:29:04 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, itโ€™s safe to say his job is exactly as hard as mine.

jesustakedakeyboard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:38:19 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Idk it looks like a pretty coal job to me

GemstarRazor ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:52:15 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yeah but he gets paid very well to do it with no outside education

tronfunkinblows_10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Great keep it accessable to everyone, I don't want to do that job.

RockPaperGun ยท 299 points ยท Posted at 23:28:09 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
bdbdhdhdhfbdjbd ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 03:24:48 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
icantfindaun ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 01:55:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've worked everything from concrete and other construction jobs to retail to restaurant work (server, expo, etc) and I'd go back to the construction type jobs but it'll be a cold day in hell before I work in retail or the service industry again. That shit is hell. Respect to the people who can put up with that level of bullshit for any length of time.

ekcunni ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:17:01 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Food service job in high school, retail for 5 years. (Part-time during college, full-time after it.)

When I got my first office job, I joked about creating my own version of those cheesy motivational posters for bad days. Mine would have been - Perspective: You could still be working retail.

EthiopianKing1620 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:04:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I just got off work at this local BBQ joint. I hate it but itโ€™s money on my pocket. Just gotta keep on keepin on.

icantfindaun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:34:15 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got fired from my last job (retail) because one of the managers decided to schedule me for a day outside of my availability then fire me for no call/no show. Less than a month later I got a job in the medical field with starting pay almost double what I was making there after 10 months of being there.

EthiopianKing1620 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:55:34 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking a man worked out well for ya.

XxDrummerChrisX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:03:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I worked two years in retail before becoming a police officer. There's just nothing like being treated like the lowest of the low. Beyond that, retail is endless, mind numbing work in my experience. Sure I bitch about my job now but I'll never work retail again.

icantfindaun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:11 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've been thinking about becoming an officer. I'm currently in EMS and college but it's looking more and more like college isn't the right way for me. Right now it's a toss up between going for paramedic or cop.

XxDrummerChrisX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:22:46 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a college drop out myself but I would recommend getting your degree. I have a few friends in EMS and honestly here being a medic isn't worth what they're paid. We make way more on the police side and I personally like the job much more than what I've seen for EMS. I know you work alongside PD so I'm sure you've got enough exposure to know, although if you haven't already do a ride along and see if you like it.

icantfindaun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:56 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My brother is an officer and my mom's a paramedic in my area so I have a pretty decent idea of what to expect. Paramedics around here don't make much in regards to bas pay either but most places around here you have your week pay rate and your weekend pay rate (you make a shitload more on weekends) and you get all the overtime you can handle. As far as college I really don't think it's for me. I've never been good at this blue collar shit and I don't want to sit behind a desk for the rest of my life.

XxDrummerChrisX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:04:02 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you've got quite the stories at the dinner table from both sides. Either job is good man and it caters to that excitement of everyday is a surprise. Hopefully whatever you choose you enjoy man and good luck on the decision.

icantfindaun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:42 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you! Stay safe officer and continue your good work!

CollectableRat ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:46:04 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Actually I'm always thankful I work in an air-conditioned office. But a lot of the guys out there are thankful that they aren't stuck cooped up indoors all day working at a computer under an egotistical manager.

emtreme5856 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:50:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So true. I love my job and hate how hard my SO works in cold and hot conditions, but he says he could never be cooped up inside.

HaloFiend95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:29:44 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The order you placed the words hot and cold disturbs me just a little

emtreme5856 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:21:19 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha. It does read back weird! Iโ€™d had some wine ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™€๏ธ

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:44:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. I'm not just thankful, I love my job because I work outside and talk to my boss for a grand total of 3 minutes everyday.

I don't know how you office people do it.

CollectableRat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:31 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

talk to my boss for a grand total of 3 minutes everyday

You just made me moist.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Believe it or not, I actually overestimated. I probably have spend 5 minutes talking to my supervisor this entire week so far. I clock in and get everything prepared for my day. Boss comes over and asks how long it will take, I tell them, and our interaction is over for the day. Our conversation is only longer if I need to assist someone else or we are in our peak season.

jethro2011 ยท 584 points ยท Posted at 22:05:51 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"I have the hardest job in the world, everyone else is lazy." -Average American

DontFuckWithMyMoney ยท 274 points ยท Posted at 01:10:18 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

-every mother

Sohtak ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:47:19 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's my dad.

My mom works 10-14 hour shifts 5 days out of the week, he works 7 hours 6 days out of the week.

"No one works as hard as I do"

"I WORK for a living"

"I have REAL JOB unlike those pencil pushers in the government"

etc

HyruleVampire ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:35:16 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is your mom a nurse?

Woodit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My dad used that same expression "I work for a living" constantly my whole life (he puts in a lot of hours but it's not a difficult job, at all). Now he whines about why I don't spend more time with him. Think I'll say the same thing.

xitzengyigglz ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 01:55:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Bill Burr's but about them is fucking glorious

thatchers_pussy_pump ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:04:42 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Plz link for lazy

xitzengyigglz ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 02:06:23 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
gotchabrah ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:18:24 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was absolutely hilarious. Thanks for posting!

Kingnewgameplus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:43 on May 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He nailed the mother voice.

epicazeroth ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Real question: I've never really "gotten" standup. Can someone explain to me (as much as is possible) how this is funny? It was amusing for a minute or so, but after that it just seems kind of mean-spirited.

xitzengyigglz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:19:24 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, it's a glimpse into someone's brain. How they percieve the world. Usually with Bill burr especially for me I identify with it but also laugh at how fucking angry and crazy he sounds haha.

shawnisboring ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:52 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I get it, but I don't usually identify with the mean spiritedness, which is why I prefer more aburist comics like Eddie Izzard.

xitzengyigglz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:40:23 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Different strokes for different folks

LezardValeth ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:38:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of comedy is kinda mean-spirited but still entertaining. It's not 100% serious and it's just enjoyable to hear someone say what is going through a lot of people's heads with zero filter sometimes.

epicazeroth ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:13 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe that's it. I don't really have a filter (yes I'm aware how clichรฉ that sounds) and don't expect it from others, so I don't see this kind of speech as just "what's going through people's heads".

hutzelcats ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:20:10 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not every mother, I'm a mom and I fucking love it! My husband works hard to support the three of us, he pays all the bills and because I don't have the skills or a degree to earn enough so that we can afford afford child care- which is insanely expensive- I am a "full-time mom." Sometimes it's not easy, but I recognize how lucky I am to get to love my daughter full time, it's pretty awesome. If anything, leaving her with strangers every day to do something I wouldn't willingly do for free seems like it would be much harder than taking care of her and maintaining my home. I get the cliche of the joke though, some moms are self-righteous as fuuuck.

SamNash ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:48:06 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
  • temporary non-millionaire
jansre16 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:39:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I N J E C T

C L A S S

C O N S C I O U S N E S S

eskamobob1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I think you would be shocked at the number of people that think their job is bullshit

StarSwarm345 ยท -168 points ยท Posted at 23:37:09 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

-Person who lives off benefits

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท -124 points ยท Posted at 00:36:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

So, average American?

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 00:37:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I doubt most Americans do.

Source : work at grocery store and don't see toooo many food stamps users.

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท -149 points ยท Posted at 00:38:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah well youโ€™re wrong

Source: am American

BrianLemur ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 00:45:11 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Also American. Work with some of the most underprivileged in the country, at an incredibly vulnerable time in their lives. Less than 5% use food stamps. The closest to welfare is Medicare and social security--both of which they already paid for, so...

Wppf ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:14:38 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oof, get those facts outta here! This bandwagon is headed straight for Hatin' Station.

gandeeva ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:08 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You got the memo right? Gotta hate on someone who uses the safety nets made available to them when they need them!

jethro2011 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:21:42 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

OnLy RePubliCans woRk DeMs JuSt liVe oFf weLfaRe.

Graynard ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 00:48:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You really think the average American lives off of unemployment benefits? I'm American too btw, so you can go ahead and keep that argument in your pocket.

StarSwarm345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I was talking about British people. I didnโ€™t even know you guys had benefits.

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท -69 points ยท Posted at 01:05:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah well youโ€™re wrong

Source: am actually American

DisterDan ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:11:28 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did your parents or guardians tell you that most people are poor so you didnโ€™t have to feel bad about being poor or something?

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 01:11:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

MagicalTrevor09 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:34:34 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah well your parents are wrong

Source: wasnโ€™t raised to be a twat waffle

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:34:58 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

*your

;)

MagicalTrevor09 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:35:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Edited the second I posted it, but thanks Mr. Waffle

teacher_mom53 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Twat waffle?

Graynard ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:23:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah well my dad can beat up your dad

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:23:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Jokes on you I donโ€™t have a dad

grillinmyjewels ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:51:21 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lmao this was actually the first response of yours I laughed at. Gg

Graynard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:20 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Jokes on both of us, I don't either :(

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:46 on February 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

:(

amped242424 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

We have 4% unemployment moron

PimpedKoala ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 01:11:31 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder when people will step back and actually interpret what you're saying rather than just reading it

just_a_random_dood ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:12:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like you're trolling

alexjordan98 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:44:16 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Good source

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:50:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like 15% of the US population is in poverty rn. That is definitely not a majority nor is it worse than other developed nations.

Source: am American and know how to look things up.

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 01:05:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah well youโ€™re wrong

Source: am actually American

Brandon_la_rana ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:12:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Eventually you have to give a real source. You can't just keep saying that.

PolyNecropolis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:34:46 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Don't feed the mentally ill trolls, their parents pay for services to do that.

morningsunbeer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:37:53 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

stop feeding the trolls...

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:08 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

non-American detected

nutznguts73 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:57:06 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol youโ€™re a dipshit. Love you though champ

UnsavoryCrocodile ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:40:41 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The average American makes $50k a year. Unless you have 15 kids you aren't even going to be able to get benefits.

You must live in extreme poverty if you think the average American uses benefits.

SamNash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:48 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who let you down in life?

uber1337h4xx0r ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 00:44:31 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fair

EGG_PLANT_MAN ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:05:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This guy gets it

PM_me_your_pastries ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:54:36 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ha. Both of you suck.

StarSwarm345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:31 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

*Average British person

Commissar_Genki ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:23:52 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fun fact: A modern miner's cap-lamp can run $500 because of the ridiculous testing and standards for products introduced into the mine.

41BottlesOf ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:41:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

More fun facts: The average Underground coal miner carries more than $5,000 worth of gear on him every day. Cap lamp, tracker, special cell phone for underground, self rescuer(20 mins of oxygen), spotter (for methane, CO2, and other gasses. And then some miners carry $11,000 CPDMs on them to monitor dust.

RightHyah ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:19:02 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Spend money to make money.

teacher_mom53 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:11:56 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Wish my husband had the special cell phone for underground at his mine. His light is pretty badass though.

41BottlesOf ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:30:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah some mines havenโ€™t adopted the tracking system that uses those cell phones for several reasons, including expense. They donโ€™t work well, and only work in certain areas of the mine.

reisenbime ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:38:44 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And still, all that fancy equipment will be useless against the morlock hordes..

jpizzle1232 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:05 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It wont be long til they are carying continous diesel particulate monitors on top of the other stuff

41BottlesOf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:10 on February 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can totally see this coming, and when it does, ventilating the neutrals will be even more problematic.

Itโ€™s already difficult enough to keep the intakes higher pressure than the neutrals, everyone will need boatloads more CFMs just to keep the particulates diluted.

SimpleCoalMiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:19 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Fun fact: over the 5000 hour life of that caplamp that works out to 10 cents an hour, and thank to the riculous testing and standards of msha the chance that the caplamp comes up from underground at the end of the shift are the highest ever.

CrackaDon_YT ยท 355 points ยท Posted at 23:17:48 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you're not gonna post actual gatekeeping memes, you shouldn't be allowed to post on r/gatekeeping at all.

The_Ambush_Bug ยท 415 points ยท Posted at 23:20:30 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is this r/gatekeeping gatekeeping?

StarSwarm345 ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 23:37:45 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit shut it down shut it down

anyholsagol ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 23:51:34 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Shut 'er down Zeke, she's burning oil!

The_Ambush_Bug ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:09:38 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ABORT ABORT ABORT

[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:54:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know he's joking, but no, it wouldn't be. Saying people are posting irrelevant content isn't gatekeeping, like if somebody is posting about soccer in /r/guitars. It just factually wouldn't belong there.

The_Ambush_Bug ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 01:09:20 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Is this r/gatekeeping gatekeeping gatekeeping?

gandaar ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:27:04 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

we must go deeper

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:33:11 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Recursive gatekeeping my boys. It was an honor to know you all

OhneBremse_OhneLicht ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:25:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, you know us?

Name three of our albums.

S3V9 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:37:00 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

GeetKaping

KapeGeeting

and Keep on gatin'

ReaperX24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:46 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I would say this post is indeed relevant, though.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:48 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It's arguably relevant because it's an anti-gatekeeping post, but it's not actually a post where somebody is gatekeeping, which one could argue this sub is about. So somebody could make the case that saying it doesn't belong here is not actually gatekeeping.

wooly_mittens ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:56:46 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

M E T A E T A

keyonte0 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:38:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If a job was easy, people probably wouldn't be paying you to do it.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:41:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not exactly true. If a lot of people can do the job then they wouldn't pay you well.

If you are really good at something that most people suck at then you can get an easy well paying job.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:41:22 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

A job can be easy but not worth someones time so they hire someone else.

Tds142 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 00:00:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
UltraMagnus0001 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:10:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But not all jobs are the same, so learn YOUR trade

Moonstoner ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:58:10 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Most jobs are a pain in the ass one way or another. Ya you work at a desk and not on a hardcore oil rig. That doesn't mean you job is a cake walk. That oil rig guy doesn't have consist calls from Stacy in QA to deal with. Or magic staplers disappearing on him everytime he looks away.

Iceimp ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:14:25 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My father was a coal miner since he was 16 until the 00's when it closed. He actually misses it because there was a lot less BS. Companies now try cut costs and treat employees like shit.

Teh-Piper ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:59:02 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Short_Classy_Name ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:06:08 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I posted it there lmao

mightylordredbeard ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:14:41 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is very true. I spent 8 years in the Marine Corps and I don't consider that my "hardest job" at all. My hardest job was working at JCPenney because it fucking sucked. I hated it and had no desire to be there, but I needed the job. The military, while physically and mentally challenging, was fun so I enjoyed it and looked forward to work each day and looked forward to seeing the great friends I worked with.

ixiduffixi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:43:55 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I know someone who is a tradesman and posts the "my job so hard" memes all of the time, shits on millenials with desk jobs, etc. But, guess who he turns to for computer help.

Go figure it out, shit's easy right?

rocket_raccon ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:34:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Whoa. I thought he was going to say โ€œif your boyfriend doesnโ€™t work 26 hours a day on an oil rig while chewing tobacco and cleaning his AR-15, then you have a girlfriend. โ€œ

SynisterSilence ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:08:08 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've worked plenty of physically-trying jobs. Ones where you come home and go to sleep hurting -- the whole deal. Some of my worst jobs were the ones who beat down on you mentally/emotionally. The effects of those jobs I still deal with today. At worst working hard for very long will land you in a hospital, you get a surgery and a bottle of pills and you're good. We don't have the technology available to fix those mental problems. Now, I say this not to put one over the other but to reinforce the idea of this meme. Some jobs simply look a lot easier, a lot better than they really are.

jebond93 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:58:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Coal Mining is harder than a desk job

Crabmonster70 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:03:03 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

On your lungs ha ha

jebond93 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:03:46 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, just in general.

Crabmonster70 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yea gonna be harder to find one.

jebond93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What do you do?

creepybookshelf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:03:34 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

He sure doesn't seem to make a big deal about stupid shit on the internet, so that's one

metalfabman ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:00:19 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Physically, perhaps.

jebond93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:11 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone likes to pat themselves on the back. I do finance and business management, Iโ€™m not a firefighter or a cop or a military man.

DrLeftCrRight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:24 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you, I was a Marine, and I'm in public accounting now. I would take a busy season over boot camp (or any three-month period in the Marine Corps) any day.

SimpleCoalMiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is psychologically challenging as well. Deskjob workers don't usually. worry about losing limbs at work. Count the whole fingers in your workplace and divide by the number of people. You work in an office and that number is probably 10, in a large mine it probably is not. If it is less than 10 in an office, someone hired on that way or it isn't workplace related.

Also there are quotas and production goals and people screaming profanities.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:38 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I used to work for a vendor to the US Military. Our equipment was used in-theatre and I can't go into much more detail than that about what it was.

My job was remote break/fix. When our shit went down, people literally could die. How do I know this?

They'd send us reports as part of our contract. I know how many soldiers died on my watch. I know their names and ages. They died because equipment designed to help them survive failed and I couldn't get it fixed in time to save them.

But sure, it's not possible that an office job is in any way more difficult than mining coal.

jebond93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Very anecdotal, Iโ€™m talking about on a macro level.

grindingvegas ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:11 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

POTUS is a desk job. Being a coal miner is not harder than being POTUS.

jebond93 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:01:15 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Umm, no it the fuck is not. How in the world is POTUS a desk job when 99.9% of the time heโ€™s not at a desk

grindingvegas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:23 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s a paper pusher.

jebond93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:34 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Youโ€™re right, Lincoln, FDR, Kennedy, Washington, Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt, just a bunch of paper pushers.

reisenbime ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're right. Some of those men were, although very briefly, bullet catchers, too.

jebond93 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 04:42:14 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Youโ€™re hilarious, make sure to put that in your new stand up special. Did you get that from a teenager?

reisenbime ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:50:52 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

ZINNGGGG, sure got me this time, Grumpy Joe!

jebond93 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:42 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Another classic, truly inspirational

reisenbime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely what I was trying to do.

jebond93 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:55:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Iโ€™m so proud, I think I just shit my pants

berserkergandhi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Relax

jethro2011 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:47:10 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
gregny2002 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:15 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well I guess if my job was fun I would be paying them

TitanJackal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:14:09 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Says the quality control tester for the rectal thermometer factory.

theotherhigh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:22:41 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If my job was a person I would beat the shit out of them. Actually, I'd probably do even worse things to them. I really hate my job...

Imissmyusername ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:49:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously. I work in a woodshop, with sawdust getting in everything, carrying 50lb+ pieces of outdoor furniture. I do this because I mentally can't handle dealing with customers like with retail or food industry. Anxiety way too high for that shit.

LasicaPrasica ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:01:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Psych! I can't even get a job

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:34:55 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Although I'd honestly say that a miner has it harder than me. There are elements to my job that are hard, but I picked this over mining for a reason.

thesimple_dog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:36:56 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can someone define gatekeeping for me? I kinda get the concept, but I want a solid definition and am too lazy to go to the subreddit about page

tronald_dump ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:48:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œoh you like _______ ? yeah well, name three of their albums!!โ€

thesimple_dog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I see, thanks!

jebond93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:34 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No, just in general

Audric_Sage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:43:28 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But then that brings up the fact that some jobs certainly are tougher than others.

Perhaps we'd be better off not worrying about this in the first place then.

Gh0stP1rate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:45:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Think about it this way: your job is so hard that they had to pay you X thousands of dollars per year just to do it.

masterxak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:49:25 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I mean if it was easy and fun they wouldn't pay you to do it?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:16:12 on March 26, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Person who mad this meme probably isnt a coal miner

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:39:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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GemstarRazor ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:50:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

everyone gets that, and some people actually are bigger Tool fans than the average Tool fan but it's a dick move to say that all jobs but mine are for pussies or all fans but me are posers

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:06:40 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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Dark_Lotus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

5 members of my family die. 6 members of yours die. Does that mean that I have no right to mourn?

kevkev667 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:23:26 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

how about, 6 members of your family die and I stub my toe. Aren't I an asshole to try to say that my life is pretty hard too?

Metaright ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:41 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Aren't I an asshole to try to say that my life is pretty hard too?

No.

kevkev667 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:41 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

... ok then

anxious_ibex ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:54:38 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I fucking hate people like this.

I work with an ex air Force guy who acts like he's the only one who ever gets any work done. Other people are dumb and lazy. Damn you millennials. Blah blah blah.

QuillVance ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:18:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did you.... did you read the second half of the post...?

DeepDishPi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:16 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Joke's on him - I'm retired!!

Rothaarig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
dragonthemagicpuff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly though, I have mad respect for engineers. They're the backbone of our society.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:36 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

R/wholesomememes

Sub_Corrector_Bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:40 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You may have meant r/wholesomememes instead of R/wholesomememes.


Remember, OP may have ninja-edited. I correct subreddit and user links with a capital R or U, which are usually unusable.

-Srikar

fredman3000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:54:21 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish I could pay bills with kudos.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:38 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Am I the only one who read the bottom text as super sarcastic?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:05 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Doubtful. I canโ€™t think of many situations where โ€œkudosโ€ wasnโ€™t said sarcastically.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:44:24 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

All jobs are tough in their own way. My first job was working at a large boarding kennel. Boss was a total abusive bitch, and imagine cleaning up dog shit all day in 100 degree heat. After that I've worked a string of retail jobs. Going into retail, I figured it would be easier than the kennel work. I was very mistaken. The shit (sometimes quite literally) I would have to clean in fitting rooms is disgusting.

why_pretend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:05 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey buddy, my job is fucking easy, so lay off!

thiccwhale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:52:40 on February 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ok this one is a huge plot twist. I can see writers actually trying this season

IQDeclined ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:25 on February 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Did this man recently return to his job mining beautiful clean coal?

rustymiker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:59:57 on February 5, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

TIL that after checking why my karma went up a k and a half. I had started many a fights.

Master_Vicen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:21:10 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If you're not sweating while your brain is basically in sleep mode, it ain't a real job...

Seldarin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:43 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If your brain is in sleep mode on pretty much any mine or industrial job you're going to get hurt or get someone else hurt pretty quickly.

SimpleCoalMiner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:22:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Amen.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:07:13 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Who even is a miner like this anymore? Like honestly, does this exist? I don't mean to be insensitive. Like with mine shafts and coal dust and whatnot?

Archlinder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, for a quick look here ya go. If you want to learn a little more, here is a website from National Geographic that explains a bit more.

imguralbumbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:42 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Woah that's fascinating. I thought it wasn't relevant anymore! I was very wrong apparently!

FatJesus13908 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:23:01 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. WV and KY still have mines.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:42 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

But like with mine carts? And dudes with pickaxes?

FatJesus13908 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:28:38 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Electricity only runs so far. When you have a billion tons of rock over your head you'd be asking to die without a backup plan.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:30:35 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That's really interesting. TIL! Thanks!

FatJesus13908 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

No problem!

SimpleCoalMiner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:27:23 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Mostly belt lines with a few older electrical trolley lines. Majority of the coal wasn't pick axed for many decades.

waitwheredoesthisgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:25 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha no. Well except for a few homemade renegade mines in KY. They also have a certain seam of coal there that only exists there and a place in Columbia and burns hotter than hell. Blue Gem seam I think?

berserkergandhi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:23:06 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Dude what rock are you living under? Most of the miners in the world just get a light. That's it. Remember a lot of these mines are in underdeveloped and developing countries.

Shit there are mines where the workers are basically slaves with gun totting superintendents.

Donkeybongdong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:36 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

this really isn't r/gatekeeping

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Short_Classy_Name ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:08:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. I think whoever posted this should get BANNED for disrespecting the gatekeeping code

simjanes2k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:15 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Reported. This didn't make me feel superior to other people at all.

btcftw1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:40 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Can someone define gatekeeping for me?

ljkharmony ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:22 on February 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Only if they are a qualified English major.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:58 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Got a light?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
NefariousLynx13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
SoundCloudWanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

/u/TyperSniper keep up the work mate.

negative_four ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:44 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well God damn. Thank you OP.

CastleKhan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:53 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, I should of read this before quitting...

Stealthman13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:30 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
ryanwhite14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:48 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Haha

slumaqueducts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
retired9gagger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:48 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I teared up

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:43 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

based

Khmerkelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:04 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I donโ€™t know how do I feeling this

DocDerry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:53 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My job isn't tough. That's why I'm looking for a different one.

almightyjewfro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I got laid off today.

I sure tried to stick with it :(

maseuz_33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:05 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
dzoefit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:16 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Do not stick with anything that does not give you any type of satisfaction, there's simply no kudos for that...

all-base-r-us ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Like a tall glass of fresh, cool water. I've got to say this really made my night

DrBeePhD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:36 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oof

Michaels_Memes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:27 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah my job is tough...im a hitman

C0SM1C-CADAVER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:21 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"Got a light?"

eclectro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

The inspiration for this might be here - motherhood is the most difficult job on the planet

BuildAutonomy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:08 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Kill your boss.

Lietenantdan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:23 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nope, my job is super easy

ktehpotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:15 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hello from snowcat stream m8

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Short_Classy_Name ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hi there! :)

dkyguy1995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:21 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well that was pleasant

ImOnMyRetail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

This is just like the โ€œIt could be worseโ€ quote.

That doesnโ€™t matter. If you have it bad, you have it bad, it doesnโ€™t matter if someone has it worse. Your tragedy is still tragedy.

omeleteCake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:25 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

where did this sub come from and wat is it

Dumguy1214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:41 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I accept.

โ€œThere are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.โ€œ A fundamental explanatory concept for such โ€œthingsโ€œ spoken of by Prince Hamlet is the Platonic concept of World Soul alias Our Ever-living Poet of the Dedication of Shakespeares Sonnets.

Troy64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:46 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I sleep for a living. So you're wrong.

DrRedditandMr9gag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:35 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

shouldn't this be for one of the wholesome subreddit

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:25 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Ty

crackedpaint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:55 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

According to my uncle, my job is considered "easy work" and "useless." Well, without me and my coworkers, you and your workers wouldn't have a place to sleep when you're away from home.

He honestly thinks I sit behind a desk and wait for people for 8 to 10 hours. No.....I have a whole list of shit to do which takes up about 6 to 7 hours of my time that I have to work around the customers who are normally a pain in the ass because they had to wait.

Most companies like his can't even get their payments/reservations in order over half of the time, which causes people like him to be mad at people like me for no reason.

AnalyticalParrot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:58 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

*especially the first few months of a job. Theses are especially difficult

michaelballston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:31 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Think I've got the black lung Pops cough cough

Tigolebizzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

My job is not very hard actually. It just doesn't pay well (as compared to others in the industry) and you have to not be bothered by doing a lot of work for very little result.

miraoister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

i wonder if Harold could be dressed up to look this manly?

Crank_Clack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:07 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I have to wake up at 3am on my carwash and then get out at 9pm. I'm usually way too tired to do anything after I'm out

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alecg8or ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Remember kids, if it's not manual work, it's not hard work.

janeusmaximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Lol!!!

Oreeds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:56 on March 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

r/bonehurtingjuice oof ouchie my link

iCorrosiveArrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:48 on June 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It is supposed to be condescending and sarcastic I think.

Canโ€™t really tell.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:12 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Rhett?

[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:45:56 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish people would stop confusing boring jobs with difficult jobs. Writing down orders and carrying food back and forth isn't difficult, it's boring. Being a waiter isn't difficult. Don't be mean or tip poorly, though

Same thing with motherhood, you hear mothers bitch about how hard they have it. Literally trillions of people have accomplished what they do. How many engineers have ever existed? Lol

Bob_Vila_did_it ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:32:52 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

It varies a lot. I've worked boring security jobs that make you wanna drill screws in your feet so you can feel something and I've worked ones where I could sit around and play video games. I've worked restaurants jobs that were harder than digging ditches in the summer heat because of the level of stress. It's difficult to become an engineer but some of the jobs are fairly easy especially when you've done it for years.

An engineer screws up and it cost millions. Pizza Hut manager screws up and it cost thousands. Both lose their job. Manager guy loses half his income, has to start back at the bottom, loses their home and car. At least the engineer has a degree to fall back on. Psychologically people can be really screwed up about to break behind their smiles.

I had a manager snap during a failed corporatew inspection with his job on the line. He threw pots and pans, dough in the deep fryer, broke the door off the hinges, screamed, banged his head against the wall, cry and begged for his job back. His failed inspection meant he was losing everything. He was a nice, polite, calm, mr.Rogers type

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:45:39 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

That was a completely reasonable response and I concede. I need to rethink my original statement, sorry bro

nevercatdogaruff ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:42:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You work with pizza, you don't know "hard" bud

Bob_Vila_did_it ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:58:27 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I've worked in pizza. I've worked digging ditches laying water line, on the side of the road, in temperatures so hot the machinery melts and damages asphalt so we have to cut the day short. I've worked a few different manual labor jobs. I know hard. You don't have enough life experience to understand.

Oh and I get what you mean lots of pizza jobs are easy but you'd be surprised which ones and how many aren't.

nevercatdogaruff ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:49:29 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

hard

LMFAO thanks for the good laugh!

Bob_Vila_did_it ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:27:45 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I've worked both and you'd be surprised how hard it can be. "Hards" relative and you might think it's easy. Personally I've had restaurant jobs harder than excavating and some of the carpentry work I've done. Roofing was a lot harder, so if you've got a job like that I can totally see your point.

nevercatdogaruff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:49 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you can't hold a job. Enjoy being poor.

Bob_Vila_did_it ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:46 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nope and nope. Do you realize the jobs I named are often carried out by one company, on one project, at the same time? Don't see why being poor would matter if I was and why you think it would be an insult. I averaged $16 an hour after taxes at a busy successful independent pizza shop, so I wasn't even really poor when I worked there. Don't be so quick to pre judge.

nevercatdogaruff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:01 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

16 dollars an hour......yea poor

Bob_Vila_did_it ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:25 on February 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

16 net, not gross and not poor for a 20 year old a few years back. It actually puts you in the middle class. It's sad you think poors an insult, proves you lack real life experience along with the 16 net being poor.

nevercatdogaruff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:07 on February 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Nobody calculates gross income hourly

You're lying

16 is poor, grow up

Bob_Vila_did_it ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:31 on February 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What country are you from? Everyone calculates gross income hourly. Minimum wage is $7.25 gross.

I made minimum wage plus averaged around $80 in tips a night after gas which is high for a pizza place but common at the better independent stores.

That's around 16 an hour net 20ish gross. That's $40,000 a year.

I guess you're so out of touch $40,000 is poor. You need to do some growing up yourself.

skooterblade ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:10:44 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're a douche on the internet. You don't know anything.

skooterblade ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:09:54 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wish people would stop confusing boring jobs with difficult jobs. Writing down orders and carrying food back and forth isn't difficult, it's boring. Being a waiter isn't difficult. Don't be mean or tip poorly, though

Same thing with motherhood, you hear mothers bitch about how hard they have it. Literally trillions of people have accomplished what they do. How many engineers have ever existed? Lol

Ha. Getting a degree isn't difficult, its boring. Memorizing information and regurgitating it isn't difficult, it's boring.

gary_greatspace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:52:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Waiting tables is incredibly difficult for some servers, and involves much more than writing things down and bringing you food. Allergies, pairings, wine etc and menu changes happen frequently. I bet a server at a 4-5 star restaurant has more tacit knowledge necessary to do their job than some engineers- plus the pressure of performance. Your being tested every hour by 10-15 guests and thinking on multiple levels for all the variables mentioned above.

You can argue the merit of the types of work, but your comment is just broad and untrue.

untitledthrowagay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:56:03 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder why they are so against the memo that covers their investigations into Hrc. Theyโ€™re so vehemently against it, changing up their reasoning as to why it shouldnโ€™t be published. hm...

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:03:36 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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rupert_jr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:34 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Not every needs to go to school to get a job they love though :P (Your local uneducated secondary school drop out, hydro dam operator)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:31 on February 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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rupert_jr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:06 on February 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I'm not against people getting educations, in NZ(Where I am) we actually have a shortage of well trained tradesmen, however the industry is dying quickly due to the fact that higher education seems to be something most people are forced into nowadays, I keep forgetting the US has horrifically low wages in a lot of fields, here the minimum wage is something around 16 an hour so for most people in most of the cities here it isn't necessary to save forever to get a half decent house.

Scienscatologist ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 01:55:09 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I love it when working class heroes act like they're the glue holding the company together, when the reality is that they're a bunch of replaceable chumps with poor social skills and a real talent for making bad life choices.

There's a reason managers make more money. We keep the clown car going.

edit: lol, so much salt, I love it.

metalfabman ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:04:47 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You sound like a fun and awesome manager. How do you mask the contempt during meetings?

Scienscatologist ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:06:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I don't.

FooLyCooLie ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:24:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What, for the hour you come in during the week so you can do nothing but stand over us, micromanage, and remind us how we're failures because our parents don't own the business like your mommy and daddy do?

People like you are making the world turn even further into shit.

Scienscatologist ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:55:17 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, it's not all bad. Remember, if you work really hard, do what you're told, and keep your nose clean, I'll get an even bigger bonus at the end of the year! :)

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:15:24 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You literally just posted this week that youโ€™re a jaded old man.

Scienscatologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:28 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

your point?

FooLyCooLie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:23:55 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not convinced you are not just trolling at this point. Your original comment, and your response both seem real... trolly for a lack of better words. You just fucking with us, or are you actually this narrow-minded?

Scienscatologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Am I narrow-minded or are you just very naive?

Being totally serious now: from your other comments, you sound like you're currently at the bottom of the food chain. If you have your shit together, in a few years you'll move up the ladder, take on more responsibilities, and you'll find that you have less and less patience for the assholes under you that constantly make your job more difficult, probably more than you'll dislike any incompetents above you.

If you look back at my op, you'll see that I didn't say all workers are fools, just the ones that think only physical, dirty labor is "hard work," like the douchebag in that photo.

Seriously, fuck that guy. There's a fuckton of office people and managers in his company that work just as hard, if not harder. It's just that they paid attention in school and have some basic social skills, so they don't have to dig around in the fucking dirt for a living.

FooLyCooLie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:04:09 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, yes because every low wage worker is an asshole trying to make your job harder. It's very simple. Run a clean smooth-running ship, don't be a dick, and treat your employees like people. That's what we are.

Why are you looking through my comment history? Yes, it's there for the internet to see, and yes I could set on private. I just don't understand why you had to go poking through my history to find some ground to argue on.

Physical labor is hard work. I did work as a groundsman for a tree cutting service. That was the hardest work I've ever done in my life. Your "It's not hard work because I've never done it" logic doesn't cut it.

I believe that people in offices and managers of companies work hard. It's the elitist attitude you displayed in both your OP and all of your responses that make the working environment shit. It's what makes people loathe coming into work.

You never said anything about people thinking certain work is "hard work" in your original post. You stuck your middle finger up at all the low-wage workers in the world. We are the glue, without us you have no business. What, are you going to run the entire business yourself? I don't think so. Just... go fuck yourself.

Scienscatologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:57 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

every low wage worker

Oh, sorry. I thought you had actual reading comprehension skills. Turns out you're a dumbass. No wonder you're upset.

Why are you looking through my comment history?

Paranoid, too, I see. I was referring to your comments directed towards me in this thread. FFS, pay attention.

FooLyCooLie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:51 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

"working class heroes" - "low wage workers"

Isn't that what you meant? You're one to call anyone a dumbass. Just keep changing that narrative so you have some ground to argue on. As if I really care what some neck-bearded troll on Reddit thinks. You probably don't even own a business. You're probably 16, a virgin, and waiting for mommy to finish cooking dinner. Don't you have school tomorrow, champ?

Scienscatologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:19 on February 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

yawn

Well, that was boring. For a moment I almost thought you were worth talking to.

FooLyCooLie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:38 on February 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

You're pathetic. Kill yourself.

skooterblade ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:11:40 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

And you'll still be afraid of us.

Scienscatologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:33 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

lol no. You're the least frightening people on the planet. The ones among you that have their shit together will act out of self-interest and work towards getting promoted to management, while the rest of you will do as you're told, so you can pay your rent and buy your groceries.

Some of you will continue to be resentful children, always blaming others for your failures, wondering why you have to keep moving from job to job. (psst: it's because you're an asshole who isn't very productive.)

It's not pretty, but that's how it is.

skooterblade ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:47:05 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. That's why you guys build gated communities and have security. Because you aint afraid of nithin.

Scienscatologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:59 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I want you to think about how tough you are the next time your boss tells you to get your lazy ass back to work, and you don't kick his ass.

dillcoq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:26 on February 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

What is your story Scienscatologist? I hate to say but you are probably right.

dog-pussy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:40 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Thatโ€™s a new approach to selling pickup trucks, work boots, or mass produced lager/pilsner beers. Iโ€™m for it.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:00 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Keep feeding your delusion reddit.

MasVonBoxen ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:37 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

If jobs were nothing but easy.. they'd be call a hobby and nobody would pay you to do it.

[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:06:06 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

Guess everyone's favorite anti-intellectual Mike Rowe hasn't aged well.

EDIT: Really does look like him if he was older and had a beard

EDIT: whatever, downvoter. This is exactly the sort of patronizing "I work a tough job" rhetoric Mike Rowe would use.

[deleted] ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 23:23:24 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

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dagdegan ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:50:04 on February 1, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I am down voting you for gatekeeping

DifficultAssociation ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 13:49:32 on February 2, 2018 ยท (Permalink)

I can tell whoever made this is both a liberal and a millenial - they expect equal praise for less work. This is why our world will come screeching to a grinding hault in a few decades while they play on their tablets and expect above minimum wage