From "Hey, want to play Pokemon?" to "Let's battle our pocket MONSTERS!"

Calm down Rocky.

the ice cream turned from being cute to looking like it would murder you in your sleep, and a lot of the other ones look a whole lot cooler with those eyes

And that's the thing, not every pokemon is meant to be an utter aggressive badass. They are highly intelligent and compassionate creatures and their eyes reflect that.

Especially the giant ice cream cone

Oriocorio goes from 'awww cute' to 'oh god you're going to stab me'

No wonder I find a lot of the newer pokemon cuter, its the eyes, I thought that Tentacruel looked cuter with the Espurr's eyes.

"You want some flippin' Ice Cream?? I'll give you some Ice Cream!"

I think Lycanroc was the biggest difference, but Greninja was the only one I'd say looked BETTER with classic eyes. Poor Rockruff, my baby. :(

Yeah, I'm developing a game that is similar to pokemon but with more agressive creatures. It's huge how much difference the eyes can make!

You're in the minority. Kawaii ruined Pokemon for westerners.

I think greninja looks better with his default eyes because of the demeanor change that the eyes cause. With his default eyes, he give off a serious but relaxed kind of vibe; the older version just screams straight up aggressive, a water-ninja version of primape

And gen 1 mons were totally ecologically researched when being designed right? You're letting your nostalgia goggles cloud ur view

There's no reason as to why they can't be both.

Looks like someone's on team Valor

Yeah the current ones look like NeoPets.

For most people in the pokemon world, they are pets. I think it completely makes sense to have the default look of an animal not be a grizzled fighter or angry.

notpets

Pokémonlivesmatter

Isn't this the whole mentality they're trying to move away from?

In the most recent games, the villain has a library of frozen Pokémon that she keeps as trophies. Tell me that's not brutal.

EDIT: also in Y the villain tries to kill everyone with a giant laser.

They really jumped the shark with that God-is-pokemon nonsense.

I feel like they're trying to figure out how to re-write this.

They really jumped the shark with that God-is-pokemon nonsense.

Maybe humans are pokémon as well and Arceus is as much their god as the other pokémon's god.

Have you played Sun/Moon? It has the darkest main game and two villains that rival Giovanni for the best in the series.

I completely disagree. I love having more lore to the Pokémon universe and being able to explain exactly how things came to be. I like having explanations. And anyway, those stories are legends, that's why they're legendary Pokémon. Not necessarily truths. Humans have legends about giant birds being the sun and creating the earth. It doesn't mean that's how things went down. And think gen 5 had a great story with dangerous villains, who, for once, actually had an ideology that made sense. It was concrete and imo the only team in the series with a sensible plan and code of ethics.

i agree with everything cept that last sentence. Arceus is bad ass, if they had just gone through with the azure flute then people would realise...

Well in japaneses culture there are multiple gods. A god being a pokemon isn't that crazy in a world with pokemon. There are multiple pokemon gods responsible for the creation of the earth, time. It seems like you're saying that they are making the Abrahamic god a pokemon because otherwise I don't see there being anything to object to.

God-is-Pokemon? What's that all about?

I think they look cuter 👀

Welp, now I'm late for work.

Gen 1 Pokémon are the predator alpha Pokémon.

That was a really interesting article. Thanks for posting that!

Tl;DR - horizontal pupils and side mounted eyes are bad at pinpointing an object, but good at spotting movement. Horses have large horizontal pupils with eyes set to the side of their head to give a nearly 360* view at all times. (Most large domesticated animals. Sheep, cows, horses, donkeys, etc)

Narrow pupils and front facing eyes give excellent depth perception, helping to spot moving prey and tell how far away they are. (Alligators, snakes, ambush predators generally)

Rounded pupils and front facing eyes give good depth perception and pinpoint vision, helping to spot camouflaged prey and judge the distance. (Humans, dogs)

Goodra has side mounted, large pupils, which look like the pupils of prey. Onix has front mounted narrow pupils, which looks like an ambush predator.

I just want'd to pet the Bunnelbies George, I dinn mean it.

What about the rabbits George?

Jots down nickname idea...

I could see someone creating an animation about this it would be hilarious.

Ohh

It is known

So say we all.

As is tradition.

I love bang his mom, though.

FTFY

1) No they're not 2) The first gen literally had THREE separate Pokémon that were literally just purple sludge with arms. Grimer, Muk, and Ditto. Edit: spelling

Cant forget such imaginative monsters as literally a purple snake, literally a mouse but its purple, and of course, ball but upside down

Yes some of the newer designs arent that good, but guess what gen 1 had pretty shitty designs too.

Yeah I got that from the other 3 commenters that said so, thanks

You're right. "Seel" the Seal was so catchy. "Garchomp" or "Zygarde" or even "Rowlet" are too hard to pronounce.

There are no Pokemon or league of legends characters with the names you're attacking here.

The shape is good, but the colour should remain. Pretty good job, bro.

Almost like a reverse "Kirby is Hardcore."

please don't make fun of my favorite pokemon, purple rat

Hey now! He didn't turn into a bigger pokeball, he turned into a bigger up-side down pokeball!

I think the point is that pokemon now a days look less aggressive. You know for the children.

Woah woah, that pokeball evolved into a bigger pokeball AND switched the colors

I've seen a lot of people make this argument, but I think it was different back then. All of those things are either based off of some kind of ancient, naturally occurring entity, or some kind of mass-produced machine. I can believe that they evolved or were created as some kind of AI that went wrong. Muck is the odd man out, but his design is simple, and it's not a huge stretch of the imagination to say that he's some kind of mutated monster created by pollution. No amount of suspension of disbelief can get me to believe a fucking Dairy Queen ice cream cone is an animal. Same with a trash bag (Jesus...), or a sarcophagus (how many of those could there possibly be?). A sand castle is in that realm of ridiculousness too. It just doesn't seem like something that would come out of nature, and none of them are meant to be man-made, so they all seem ridiculous. So does that candelabra one. People say it's a ghost that possesses the candelabra, but what ghost? Ghastly? And does it only possess that specific style of candelabra. What if all of those were melted down? Before you could at least say "this is an animal or a machine," but now I don't really think you can.

Or the seal that was called "Seel".

Don't forget the mime/clown, and whatever the hell Jinx is supposed to be (other than racist).

Hey the pokeball got larger AND turned upside down!

dont forget the sea horse named horse sea.

And mimikyu is fucking awesome.

Like the lantern pokemon. It purposely goes over to sick and dying people to steal their souls when they die.

Yeah you'd be like what the fuck? A pokeball Pokémon? Really?

Tangela, a pile of blue vines? With red shoes. Wtf is koffing even? Voltorb/electrode... lickitung creepy af. Most evos are just cramming 3 pokes together doduo/dodrio magnemite/magneton diglett/dugtrio. These are the things people would be crying about for gen 1 if it came out today.

It's a culture thing, really. Japanese folklore has a lot of monsters that are inanimate objects turned to life, so the idea of sentient eggs/magnets/keys/gears isn't out of the ordinary for them. But in western folklore, the only non-animal monsters/possessions are plants, dolls, suits of armour, swords, books, and that one piano in SM64. So those 'lazy ideas' like ice cream cones and sandcastles seem way out of touch - while stuff like Bellsprout and Aegislash don't even get the slightest complaint.

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To be fair, though, Gen 5 did have a literal bag of trash Pokémon that evolved into a bigger bag of trash. Not only is that kind of uninspired, it's fucking trash, who the hell wants to play with a litteral trash Pokémon? I get that it was supposed to evoke New York City but come on, a fucking TRASH Pokémon??

Even removing nostalgia, that's by far the worst idea for a Pokémon in the series. Doesn't disprove your point, though.

Well no shit. The thing is they didnt. Ome out in opposite order. Thats like saying "if the order of eating and shitting were reversed, youd think shitting made you eat"

Yeah, going from Sandcastles and Donkeys with 1980s bangs to Normal Pigeons and Caterpillars is definitely the same.........

Right? Exeggcute is literally 5 eggs. Lol

JINGLE JINGLE MOTHERFUCKERS!

You weren't kidding, lol

They've been doing this from Gen 1. Voltorb is literally a pokeball with eyes while Electrode is an upside down pokeball with eyes and a mouth.

since the days of Mew and MewTwo,

The good old days of Gen 1 back when we had a magnet that evolved into three magnets, or the pile of eggs.

I find it hard to complain about a pokemon made of sand when Gen 1 had pokemon that is a literal pile of eggs.

Klefki is actually a fairy that collects keys

yeah but wait until you see what it turns into

it genuinely weighs over a ton, making it heavier than every other non-legendary (and most legendary) pokemon

Ponyta was a horse. Seel was a seal. Spearow was a sparrow. Take off your rose-tinted glasses

I agree that gen 3 had designs that were confusing not being able to tell what type a pokemon is but gen 3 also had some of the best and most original designs.

Take for example Altaria.

While you probably can't tell that it's a dragon, a pokemon that is a bird with cotton wings is very creative and it's design is excellent.

That may be true in a gameplay sense, but aesthetically gen3 is awesome

Go run into the jungle and ask yourself if that panther or group of giant golbats is attacking you because they love to battle, or because they're hungry lol

Ahh yes, the perfect propaganda. /s

Come to think of it, the cavemen of the Pokémon world must have been supermen of sorts, to be able to domesticate those walking weapons without getting annihilated in the process.

Maybe because the pokemon are hungry?

to save their pokemon brothers from slavery and bloodsport

Do you really want to fuck the girl of your dreams only to watch her melt into an amorphous pink blob when you're done?

That last word really changed where this comment went.

A "mimic" clam always seemed like a logical choice for Pokemon. Instead of pearls it has other precious stones or gold.

I was able to find something in Japanese lore about Yokai mimicking inanimate objects.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yōkai

both

Yep! Key-shaped fairy that steals people's keys.

I never noticed that before and now I can't unsee it. WHY!?!!

I'd want to see that Pokemon.

Just trying to get into that boys soul

Drifloon's Pokédex entry:

Stories go that it grabs the hands of small children and drags them away to the afterlife. It dislikes heavy children.

The games are full of this stuff.

Sun/Moon has some fucking metal Pokedex entries.

Gengar's entry in Sun.

Should you feel yourself attacked by a sudden chill, it is evidence of an approaching Gengar. There is no escaping it. Give up.

Froslass has a creepy one

When it finds humans or Pokémon it likes, it freezes them and takes them to its chilly den, where they become decorations.

Or how about Mega Glalie?

The excess energy from Mega Evolution spilled over from its mouth, breaking its jaw. It spews endless blizzards.

Pokemon Moon's entry for Bewear is pretty scary

This Pokémon has the habit of hugging its companions. Many Trainers have left this world after their spines were squashed by its hug.

It is but it was always kind of dark, gengar and drowzee who eat dreams, slowpoke who gets his tail cut for weird medecine and cubone who wear his mother's skull.

Nah, Pokemons been like this since the first gen. Cubone wears its dead mothers skull on its head.

A game about putting animals inside poke balls and sending them into storage to pretty much never be opened again. The few powerful enough to deserve your attention are then repeatedly battled to the point of unconsciousness for the rest of their lives.

It's a pretty dark game if you remove the rose veneer and ask too many questions, it's better to just suspend it into happy colours and goal oriented gameplay.

Pokemon had creepy dex entries since 1st games were released.

Lol, a lot of nursery rhymes and popular children stories actually have very dark origins/meanings.

Check out Hypno's backstory. Creepy thing.

That was your first mistake.

Only on the surface.

Don't worry, man, Sandygast only has 15 base speed. Not quick at all.

Because dual types didn't exist before?

The horror of a Ghost/Ground type! What's next, a Ghost/Poison (Haunter, Gengar), or a Water/Ghost (Jellicent)!

Bruh. Ghost/Ground isn't even unique, that's also Golurk who's based on the Jewish Golem.

and then it turns back into 1 magnet.

People always forget Gen 1 had literally just a crab named Krabby.

Well those eggs are not eggs... they are seeds

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Exeggcute_(Pokémon)#Biology

"Despite looking like eggs, Exeggcute is actually more closely related to plant seeds."

And now a Dragon.

Voltorb, jigglypuff, electrode, venonat, oddish, mankey, geodude, graveler, golem, poliwhirl, poliwag, gastly, koffing, tangela. All are decorated spheres.

And that's being kind and ignoring things like clefairy and chansey as not being spherical, just round-bodied, and magnemite because the magnets are almost as big as the sphere.

You could end one of the original series shows just by naming all the near-spherical pokemon in the original 150. "Who's that Pokémon" is unanswerable if they show you a circle.

Upside-down pokeball.

At least the keyring tries to justify it by being possessed. Goofy explanation of how people always lose their keys.

Upside down pokeball has no justification. It's the size of a human. What, is it special camouflage to hide in pokemart for sale displays next to the giant novelty pokeball sign?

One is goofy and amusing even if it looks a bit stupid, one is just dumb and nonsensical.

Rock with arms...

See one of my other responses. Upside-down giant pokeball beats possessed keyring for dumb ideas.

You mean like the magnet made of a metal orb with a screw in it? Or how about the pokeball pokemon? Every generation has a couple Pokémon based off of inanimate objects. If gen 1 came out today people would be calling magnemite and voltorb stupid, especially since magnaton just becomes three magnemite stuck together and electrode is just upside down.

They're called Pocket MONSTERS, not Animals.

Grimer/Muk is literally toxic waste. No different than Trubbish/Garbador. You can't pull that "at least they looked like animals" bullshit, because most new gen pokémon still do, but people love to jerk themselves off over a few cherrypicked examples. And they don't use lube.

Gen 1 had the mime Pokémon and the blackface Pokémon.

Refer to list above. None are animals, all are dumb, all are gen1.

I think the pile of eggs is stupid itself, and magneton will never make sense. It's not nostalgia, I just don't like the concept of a key ring being a Pokémon.

But fuck me for having an opinion right?

Grindr

heh.

Its shiny is pretty neat too. Not only does the black color suit a Ghost Type a bit more but it's a nice throwback to the black sand beaches of Hawaii.

The idea is that it's a ghost Pokémon

the idea is pretty solid

Naaaah.

You don't think they spelled other names backwards, do you. I mean I might be way out in left field by myself chasing butterflies but you know, pipes, "sludge," life form, teenage boys! Oh my!

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Spanish. I meant spanish not french. I'm an idiot.

Lots of fantasy settings have objects that are actually creatures in disguise. D&D alone has monsters that mimic floors, walls, ceilings, and even houses.

And really, lazy and unoriginal? "Bag of trash that comes to life" is much more creative than "more dogs and cats".

So, what's your excuse for the pokemon that was literally just a magnet? Or the pokemon that was literally just a seal with one letter in the name changed?

The whole franchise is designed to appeal to children primarily and there's dozens of Pokemon in every gen that are designed to be childish. Prime examples dating back to gen 1 are the Jigglypuff, Clefairy and Pikachu lines.

As to why it's an ice cream, take a look into the lore. What real life area is Unova based on? (Hint: New York)

Is ice cream popular in America? Yes. In fact many of the designs introduced in each generation are characteristic of the region in real life. Same logic applies to Garbodor in gen 5, Furfrou in gen 6, the Tapu in gen 7 and so many more.

Dont forget gen 1 also have a plain bull with 3 tails and a horse on fire. And spagetti with eyes and feet.

To be fair, the rocks-with-eyes pokemon at least had arms and/or legs.

The keys aren't part of Klefki. It's a kleptomaniac fairy who is a prankster that steals keys from people and collects them. When if faints in game its arms come apart and it drops all of the keys to the floor as well.

I guess you could compare it to Hypno or Cubone where the medallion and club are accessories and not the actual Pokemon.

Hey, I've got an idea! How about a car-pokemon that can transform into a robot? Kids would love it. Maybe call it a transvroom or trucksform or something.