I had a horse steak in the Netherlands that was mind-blowing, and here in Japan it's served raw as sashimi at fancy banquets (and is one of my favorites).
Wild horse populations are exploding unchecked across much of the west and herds could readily be culled to reduce the strain the large herds have on other animals in these areas. A lot of hungry people could be fed from those animals if there wasn't such a stigma against consuming horse meat.
Nothing exact but I'll give you what I have. I used a store bought pie crust because it's too much hassle to make that shit yourself. Sliced carrots, diced potatoes (quarter inch cube or so), sliced onions and frozen peas (I used frozen because that's what I had. The other veggies were grown in my garden.) I usually throw the rabbits in the slow cooker and season them with salt, pepper, and garlic powder. Let them cook on low for 4-5 hours or until done. When they are you pick the meat off the bones and mix it in with the veggies. Mix in a nice dark gravy and put in the pies (we used largish ramekins). Put the top crust on and throw those babies in the oven at 375 or so until golden brown and the gravy is bubbling.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 03:30:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I just realized how rude i was not sharing my Stew Recipe when you provided your pot pie one!
Take a whole rabbit and rub it with salt and pepper and place it in a slow cooker, Place sliced onions, apples and jalapenos peppers over it. Add two cups of vegetable broth to make sure it stays moist and cook, i usually put it on the lowest setting for 6-8 hours until it shreds off the bone.
After wards pull the rabbit and shred all its meat, i usually save a cup of broth for the stew, but thats completely optional.
Make a typical stew, Vegetable broth, veggies, potatoes/barley, Diced onion, carrot, celery, whatever you preference is. Add the rabbit to the stew and then slow cook it again until all other ingredients are cooked soft enough for your liking. I usually go with a basil, parsley, oregano, Garlic and a basil leaf for seasoning
Bam done! Takes a little while but the sweet and spicy Rabbit really makes it a winner.
How do you tell whether the rabbit was mean or nice? That seems awfully judgmental of something you're going to eat. On a side note, I need to try a rabbit stew sometime. I'll have to ask the cook about the rabbit's temperament before I eat it.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:45:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Meat Rabbits are always mean. I like to think me covering them in jalapenos and onion as i slow cook them adds to this.
PD711 · 1 points · Posted at 04:59:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse eater!
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 05:04:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love horses, always have a place in my home. Right next to the mashed potatoes.
PD711 · 2 points · Posted at 05:43:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would have to say neigh to that.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:14:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
How do you keep it tender? Every time I cook rabbit it becomes very stringy, even when I slow cook it for 9 hours.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:16:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
low heat seems to help, depends on your crock pot as well. But overcooking it will make it very stringy. Salt and acids help soften meat.
I had an acquaintance once who swore he was a vegetarian. Ate fish almost every day. Justified it by cold blooded things not being animals or some other ignorance.
And plain stupid. Or made by someone that didn't agree. The fact that they had to repeat cat and dog so many times to make their point says a lot about the artists position.
The order is also telling. Actually vary the species, mix them up, then ask people to draw the line would have made a statement versus easily made into a joke.
There was a great post not too long ago about a family that had pigs for pets; they were full fledged family members right up until they became food. The post had many cuddling pictures, adventures taking them for walks and such, followed by a long list of all the pork products they produced wasting nothing (iirc).
Why is the duck all the way right? I know some cultures eat a lot of duck but for the ad to be in English the cow or chicken would have been more relevant.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:30:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bushmeat, in both South America and Afric, is a problem for conservation of endangered primates. Part of the reason some of the conservation efforts in those areas also focus on education and generating jobs. Hard to tell someone not to eat something and expect them to starve instead
I went to a fancy restaurant in Hangzhou and it was like they took a big comb and scrapped the sea floor clean and on their way back to the restaurant they proceeded to club anything with a pulse and toss it in with the rest. If some one pulled out a piece of Coral and proceeded to gnaw at it I wouldn't be surprised in the least.
TLDR: The Chinese don't eat animals, they eat ecosystems.
[deleted] · 120 points · Posted at 04:32:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
that which isn't considered a delicacy, is believed to be an aphrodisiac.
Yep, just grind it up and put it in a gelcap
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 15:38:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If it's got four legs and isn't a chair, the Chinese will eat it. I made the mistake of letting a friend choose a "unique dining experience" in Guangzhou. One resto... Over 60 species. I shit you not!
Jorask · 3 points · Posted at 09:24:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
God damn you I actually laughed loudly at my workplace and now I'm in trouble
Have you read about the china sea disputes? China has basically said the ocean south of china is all theirs. The link below shows what china is claiming as their ocean territory. They have started making manmade islands and are basically just dredging the ocean and taking everything they pull up.
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 03:12:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its funny that we live in a world where it's easy NOT to be that hungry, but people still continue to eat meat like agriculturally-inept cavemen anyways.
PurpEL · 3 points · Posted at 04:45:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
really?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:57:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Found the Vegan.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:48:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Found the karma whore.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 06:06:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Interestingly enough, Prince Phillip said similar things, "If it has four legs and is not a chair, has wings and is not an aeroplane, or swims and is not a submarine, the Catonese will eat it."
There are a lot of bad things in China but there are good ones too. I loved living in China. I made a lot of money and lived like a rock star. Of course I had to put up with a lot of dumb shit also.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 10:05:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not. If you are not being sarcastic than this is for you.
China is not one race so talking about the country and its customs is not racist. It is also not stereotyping as I never said that EVERYONE in China felt this way.
I also did not single out China. I said I lived in China and this is the norm there. If I had lived in another country I would have mentioned them too.
could happen anywhere
But it does not. The fact we are talking about it proves that. China and many Asian cultures feel this way about food. It is not a good thing or a bad thing. It is just a fact. You do not see this happening in European countries. This is also not a good thing or a bad thing. Just a fact.
So kiss my ass for being a dumb ass.
If you were being sarcastic than disregard the above.
ATF628 · -4 points · Posted at 01:53:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Grill'd occasionally does a promotion for Australia Day called the "Coat of Arms Burger", which contains both Kangaroo steak and Emu breast, the animals on our coat of arms.
Grocery store near me sometimes has kangaroo meat. I'll have to get some eventually.
aj4000 · 4 points · Posted at 03:53:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shame. Kangaroo is actually healthier than beef. Better for the environment too.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:02:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Roo meat isn't really suitable for burger patties as there is virtually no fat so it easily dries out. You probably weren't missing much.
That being said I have had some good ones. They just need to be served quite rare and I'd hazard to guess the chefs at Jack in the Box probably didn't come out of Le Cordon Bleu so I don't know that I'd trust them.
Do the meat up kind of like meatloaf before making the patties. Egg yolks, Westchester sauce, salt and pepper, garlic, spicy mustard, touch of olive oil.
Then you're set.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:30:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why? Then you're just using the meat as a vessel for all the other flavours. If you specifically want kangaroo meat then that's what you should be tasting.
Yes. Be damned with salt and pepper. Don't ever season your food. Don't BBQ it either because smoke adds flavor. You should only steam your food over water to cook it. All food.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:40:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I see you left out all the other ingredients you listed previously. Funny that.
To anyone who's confused how there could be a scandal about undeclared horse meat when it's a good meat, it's about an antibiotic that horses handle just fine, but is dangerous to humans. Pet horses are treated with it regularly, while those destined for consumption aren't, of course. As a consequence of that, the meat of the latter is fairly expensive, the meat of the former is dirt cheap because no one wants it.
Having eaten Horse was never the issue; rather that the horses weren't bred for eating, and may well have been medicated or fed with something containing chemicals that would pass on to anyone eating them.
Horse meat is a bit sweeter in taste than beef, but otherwise it's very similar in my experience.
I probably wouldn't deliberately serve it to guests, for one because I have nowhere local to buy it outside of expensive specialty butchers shops, but it also just isn't normal practice here and it might weird people out.
I loved that IKEA's response to "Swedish Meatballs made with horse sold in US" was "Sorry, those were supposed to go to France" where they like eating horse. That's cool, got no problem with equine ingestion. Just thought is was funny that for a second everyone thought it was a big scandal and then realized it was just a shipping error.
I remember trying to explain to people that the issue wasn't that it was horse meat, the issue was that it was sold as beef with no controls. Horse is bloody tasty.
Whales are not being hunted in Iceland any more. Not because of any new laws, but because of costs. Any whale meat you get in Iceland now is from previous hunts. Getting whale meat now doesn't mean supporting the hunting because there is no more hunting.
In any case, those types that were hunted were not endangered in the Atlantic Ocean.
They're also really intelligent. It's believed they actually have a pretty complex language, we just can't understand it. It would be awesome to somehow figure out how to meaningfully communicate with them. They may oral history passed down from generation to generation. Anyway, I refuse to eat whale and will openly shame people that do.
Huh, makes sense though. Methyl Mercury permeates the entire ocean and affects everything, from the smallest creatures to the largest. Long lived, apex predators (Marlin, Swordfish, Whales, Sturgeon, Shark, Porpoise etc...) will accumulate more in their system, since it is a chemical that once in the body, doesn't leach out.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:48:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So, delicious?
Vexxt · 12 points · Posted at 03:12:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well, considering japanese whaling is an incredibly sketchy business, "scientific research", hunting of at risk species, and consistent refusal of the japanese to come to the table on any real agreement to conservation, it's fair not to support it.
Aside from the mercury content mentioned(from us asshole humans dumping our waste in the ocean) they're also really intelligent, rivaling even ours in brain structure and neurons. Whales and dolphins have complex languages we can't understand very well at all, we can recognize they even have unique names and respond to when called. They may even have oral history like humans had 10's of thousands of years ago. So what makes us seem sooo much more intelligent? Maybe it's our writing system to pass all our information down to the next generations. We also have fingers and thumbs with high dexterity to build devices. But if you go back 30,000 years the humans living in caves had nearly identical brains to modern humans, but didn't have a writing system. People may view cavemen as being stupid but that's just because they didn't have the tools to reach their potential like reading/writing. Same thing may apply to whales, they may be very intelligent (and the evidence suggests so based on their brains and complex languages) they just appear stupid because they don't have technology and we can't talk to them.
So why should you care if you're killing other intelligent species? Compassion. Compassion is a form of intelligence. Some people have it, some don't. Anyway, you may not give a fuck about the intelligence of whatever you kill/eat in which case, you may be very lacking in intelligence and empathy. Or maybe you're not lacking in intelligence at all and are a borderline sociopath.
Here's a quote by Albert Einstein: "A human being is part of a whole, called by us the ‘Universe’ —a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts, and feelings, as something separated from the rest—a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circles of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."
Thanks for your input. You appear to know what you are talking about on most points but you saying "So why should you care if you're killing other intelligent species? Compassion. Compassion is a form of intelligence. Some people have it, some don't. Anyway, you may not give a fuck about the intelligence of whatever you kill/eat in which case, you may be very lacking in intelligence and empathy. Or maybe you're not lacking in intelligence at all and are a borderline sociopath." was extremely uncalled for.
Maybe you should look into some of that empathy stuff you were talking about. I have never eaten whale and I didn't plan to and I just wanted more information on what made /u/Ieatmung decide to not eat the whale. So maybe take a step back and not be such a matter-of-fact preachy A-hole next time. Thanks for trying but you lack compassion where-as you preach it to others.
It was an if. I was saying IF you don't care about the intelligence of the animals you eat, then you should learn some empathy because that is sociopathic tendencies. If you DO care about the overall well being of people you've never met, or living creatures and nature in its entirety, then that was not directed at you. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that, I was speaking generally. You know how when someone's giving a speech and they say things like, "so why should you care?" to everyone to grab your attention? It was supposed to come off like that, but it's a lot harder to convey your true thoughts over text obviously. Lots of human communication is through body language and tone of voice, which is obviously lost here.
However, I don't believe compassion involves holding back the truth to spare someone's feelings from being hurt. If my words actually had any type of lasting negative impact on you, I am sorry, that wasn't my intent. I wasn't trying to call you stupid or anything. But if someone(not you specifically) only ever looks to benefit themselves, and thinks something like human tradition take precedence over things like slaughtering thousands of whales and dolphins, while obdurately pretending animals don't have emotions, then they are dumb. Hope all is well with you
Let me repeat myself. Having compassion doesn't mean sparing your poor sensitive feelings from being hurt when i'm speaking the truth. If someone's candid words on the internet actually impacted you negatively, then you need to reevaluate yourself because you're always going to have your feelings hurt if you're on the internet, or even reading a book. Get some thicker skin. Comprende?
Hahahahaha I didnt expect to see my island named on this thread, I guess the kind of restaurant you are refeering too is a "Guachinche" where they serve traditional Canary Islands food, and the meat is called "Carne Fiesta" (Party Meat)
reerg · 5 points · Posted at 02:17:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Haha! I didn't really have any specific in mind and I don't think I've ever eaten carne fiesta! It just reminded me of some steaks I've had during childhood vacations at some "dodgy" restaurants and I needed to come up with an example.
[deleted] · 26 points · Posted at 01:28:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The stuff I had was like a mix of venison and beef. Little gamier than any beef I've had, but much more tender than any game animal I've had. Good combination, I'd probably eat it more often if it were popular.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:38:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So... like grass-fed beef?
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:50:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My family farm has grass fed cattle, and grass fed horses... no, they're still different. Grass fed, pasture kept cattle is still very tender, and ultimately it isn't really obvious you're eating the inside of an animal. Horse is like a game animal that doesn't leave a bloody aftertaste.
Not him, I personally find it worse than cow, it's not as smooth and refined as regular beef but it lacks the wild factor and intense flavour of other meats like Venison or Boar (If you ever get the chance to try a good boar dish, do it).
I personally don't find horse meat remarkable.
knvf · 1 points · Posted at 02:56:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten horse... only because I'm not American and horse is normal to eat in most of the world.
I'm confused, you can't buy horsemeat where you live?
daemyn · 79 points · Posted at 23:57:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
The slaughter of horses for meat is prohibited in the US. While it's not technically illegal to have, sell, or consume it, the meat is really pretty difficult and expensive to get.
This despite the massive wild horse population here that wreaks havoc on both natural and for production agriculture rangeland
Don't forget the fact that the united states government population controls 50k+ horses per year and exports the meat to other countries for consumption.
Well, pretty much all throughout the meat industry all Hemoglobin is drained from the carcass, and is generally pumped into a recycling system that will recover most of the blood which they then will sell for other products such as blood meal. It usually isn't marked for human consumption though, and thus Would be very difficult to acquire for the Lay man. You can always check your local slaughterhouse to find out what they may charge for blood (Though you would most likely be asked to pay by the drum/tote which can be as high as 330Gal/1250KG)
In regards to army, The Russian army had me somewhat concerned right up until we saw how they were handling everything in the Saudi Arabia right now. There bungling of their part showed me that they just aren't nearly experienced enough to truly challenge the U.S. The Chinese are currently the only Military I have concerns about at this point, but that mostly stems from them being aggressive but we haven't seen how well organized they truly are.
There's a pretty well established truth that the shift to a much higher level of military training in the early 80s pretty much made the Soviets decide they wouldn't win. Nothing is better in the Russian era.
I always figured the line was the Mississippi River. That said, I'm a Missouri resident and don't think of Missouri or Kansas "the west". Maybe Colorado is the west.
Yeah, I guess Midwest is more accurate. I just remembered Kansas as having a whole lot of empty space when I drove through and wanted to throw a dig their way
Shit, there's populations of them in Maryland as well out near some of the beaches (I think Ocean City?). Not uncommon to see em if you pass by some wetlands early morning around there.
They aren't truly wild horses, most are descended former domesticated horses. They have been here a few hundred years so that's why most people consider them wild. But I don't believe coming from domestic stock makes you a truly wild animal. It's mostly splitting hairs
Redebo · 2 points · Posted at 03:40:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Here in Montana there are herds that they try to keep in check by slaughtering and sterilization. They are wild, but they're not native but they are herd grazing animals that compete for food with native species like the elk. And most people like their elk because of hunting, but some groups get all, "Save the mustangs" and cause a big stink because precious horses are getting slaughtered and turned to glue or whatever. It's got to be hard for Fish and Game sometimes I think when everyone becomes armchair biologists.
Fun fact ! The wild horses in America are technically feral, not wild. They are classed as domestic horses that aren't yet tamed.
There are only a few truly wild horses left in the world, mostly located in Mongolia. They are called Przewalski’s Horse. (Scientific name - Equus ferus przewalskii)
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 00:08:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
From my understanding it was federally defunded so while not banned it was 'frowned upon' that's why if you go to horse sales you'll always see the worthless ones go for pennies on the dollar to get shipped down to Mexico for slaughter. Which I think is good. It provided an incentive to dispose of an unwanted horse humanely. Now people will turn them loose or keep them locked up to suffer because it isn't worth your time to try and sell them
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 11:09:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I swear someone led me once it was supposed to be a very stringy meat, but with all the talk I'm seeing now I'm starting to want to try it. But besides that there's alot of other uses for it like pet food. Just seems a waste when you hear about abandoned horses that get hit by vehicles or die of malnutrition
If they're invasive and numerous, can't you blast away at them just like you would with coyotes or white-tailed carkillers?
Rudy69 · 1 points · Posted at 02:38:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They sell it in most grocery stores around here (Quebec, Canada)
Liempt · 1 points · Posted at 06:33:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just come up to Canada if you're near the northern border - my town has a lot of Dutch-Canadians (including me) and it's pretty easy to just go grab some rookvlees (smoked horse meat) from the local ethnic food shop.
You would need to order it specially as it won't just be on the shelf. Eg. In Australia there is generally once place to get it and you have to order it directly from them as it's not a common meat in most countries.
Ehhh, there are several companies online that ship raw steaks and stuff to you. They are just shipped in a cold container with dry ice or something usually. Someone shipped my dad some steaks before and they were good. Not really super informed about it but it's not really a hassle. Maybe expensive though.
Maybe we could fatten them up, feed them some high fructose corn syrup, not let them get any exercise, give them the veal treatment; see if that helps move things along.
I don't like it. 100% nothing against it on an ethical-sort of basis, I just had it and I didn't like it. Wouldn't spit it out, but would never go out and buy it.
I'm guessing I didn't have the best quality the 1-2 times I tried it, though.
I really wonder why they're not more available. I can get New Zealand red deer, wild boar, elk, camel, gator, antelope, bison, and I think lion, and that's just at one burger place. But I've never seen horse on the menu anywhere
I "had" a cow as a kid. Got to name her, and all of her calves and the whole line, until I grew up and didn't keep track anymore. It was my cows, although they lived at my grandparents' farm. I always knew we ate them, it never even seemed weird to me.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:51:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd imagine horse meat to taste good. Most herbivores taste good. Dogs and cats, my Chinese friend told Me, taste like plastic skin or something like that. Yuck!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:27:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Every few years I commit genocide at the family ranch for a large rabbit bar b que. God I look forward to it. It's been 2 years, I'd give it another one or two.
I'd prolly go with that tasty looking bulldog as well
Ozzah · 1 points · Posted at 06:37:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
As a mathematician, we do this pretty frequently. You raise your initial space into a higher dimension and draw a straight line (or 'hyperplane' as we call them) that separates your points. Then project your higher dimensional space back down and you have your wibbly wobbly line that effectively separates the points. One well known example of where this is used is Support Vector Machines.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 07:06:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is edible.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 08:08:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Kuges · 22 points · Posted at 00:54:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
When i was a kid we use to raise rabbits and sell them like this at the Eastern Market in Detroit. Usually the Saturday before Easter. It was probably about half and half live vs butchered sales.
During the depression it was very common to have a cage in the back yard with some rabbits to eat. Rabbit stew with veggies can feed you for a long time.
That's if you had a yard to put them in at all, a lot of homeless drifters then too.
I feel like I'm the only one that's ok with eating w/e animal you choose as long as it had a painless death. I don't care if you have sauted Pomeranian, just don't drop the thing in hot water to kill it.
[deleted] · 76 points · Posted at 00:22:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I personally try to avoid eating predator meat... exception being fish, of course, because that's a vegetable according to Catholics.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 02:59:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe should have said cattle, because the ones that are put in feeding camp(or whatever they're called LUL) and killed when they reach 2 years/3 years tops, are very dumb and lack any personality.
Milking cows, like the one you posted, are a whole different story they are living the highlife as far as bovine society goes.
Also you posted the same pic twice, and cats are objectively smarter than cows for being a predator.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 04:21:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd say the real reason I don't eat predators is because I don't like Prion diseases, but statistically your just as likely to get one from a cow as from a cat if you eat equal portions of both... If you're British.
Cats are objectively smarter than cows for being a predator.
Neither cats nor cows choose their station in life. But so far as predators go, cats are really, really stupid. They've got a kit of instincts that make them fantastic predators, but they're terrible at problem solving and learning skills.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 04:12:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cows are gorgeous creatures to look at but they are in fact really, really stupid fucking animals.
Sheep too. Very nice to look at but horrendously stupid.
Not sure about beaver, but Catholic priests in Venezuela at one point declared capybara to be a fish so they could eat it on meat-free days. When your primary fish alternative is piranha...
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 05:00:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Agreed. Granted, Im kind of one of those people that is willing to try anything once, but if put in front of me knowing full well what it is, I would try dog. I have a dog, and absolutely love them, but I dont see how it would be different than another animal in the end.
With that said, dont know if I could do cannibalism.
have had dog, the way it was prepared [cubed, breaded, fried] it could have been pork or chicken or poor quality beef, wouldn't have known the difference.
I don't understand. In what way is it "wrong" other than offending personal sentiments? There is someone somewhere in the world who is breeding almost any particular animal to be a pet. Some people breed chickens to be pets, and some people breed dogs specifically to be food.
Yeah I worked at an allpet HQ that required us to come over to their house for a pet owner "interview" as well as giving them a $300 store deposit to buy essentials (pure bred puppies were going for $1500). It sounds a bit over board, unless you work at a shelter and realise how many animals are quickly brought back because the owners truly had no idea what they got themselves into. Sheltors are left throwing pets at people (and often in the trash..) while pet mills continue making money because people would rather have an 8 week old rather an 8 month old pet. But who am I to control what pets people have?
OK my rant is over
hedic · 3 points · Posted at 02:05:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have always thought that there should be shelters/butchers. It seems a waste of meat knowing how many animals they kill anyway.
reerg · 10 points · Posted at 01:01:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It’s a red meat, quite fatty, and extremely fragrant. Take a cross between beef and mutton, add extra meaty flavoring, and you’ve got the taste of dog.
Sounds fucking delicious. I'm not opposed to the concept but something tells me the dog meat industry in Asia is a pretty shitty industry.
It is a very shitty industry. You can pretty much guarantee that whatever animal you eat, especially small ones like dogs and cats, were treated horrifically in life and during death.
You want a source because you don't think it's true. The few sources that exist are undercover footage that's hard to get a hold of. These companies doing this don't openly broadcast their practices.
Like what this other fella said, if the way animals being treated here are that bad, a place that supposedly has animal cruelty laws for farm animal, imagine how bad it is in s country where there is zero regulations.
I don't ask for a source because I don't believe you, I ask for a source so you can back up your hard claim. Unless you can tell me how you've personally seen these circumstances or somehow have other proof, speculation is all it is. You can't "pretty much guarantee" anything, be it for small animals or otherwise. I have no problem with speculation, hell I'd speculate a huge amount of animals raised for slaughter in China are treated inhumanely as well. However I can't "pretty much guarantee" anything because I have no evidence.
I can understand that. Awhile back I saw several pieces of footage of foxes and dogs being skinned alive. The source claimed it to be an Asian fur manufacturer. There were several other videos. One of metal crates of cats used for meat being thrown off a loading truck. Their limbs were twisted. It was extremely hard to watch, but I think it's important to face the reality of some animal products.
I wish I could find the videos again, but it wasn't up for very long.
I guess you didn't read it? No. The videos aren't on live leak anymore. They are probably still on the internet somewhere, but I'm not going to search high and low for them to prove something very believable. Feel free to do your own research if you are that interested in it.
It's good for them that they don't usually live all that long.
wait for the puppies to wean and then maybe a week or so more then they're about ready.It's same concept with veal.
In a kind of sick, twisted way, animals eaten that are young live almost completely cruelty free lives (as short as they are) because it's generally cheaper that way.
I can agree with that, but not the almost humane part. Some of the worst abuse happens in the first few weeks of life. But I'll agree that it's better to live a short life of misery than a long one.
It's easier to confine them to a smaller space than big animals. You can fit dozens in a small cage (chickens) if you cram them together. They usually require "less maintenance" by the factories standard. That's not always the case, don't get me wrong.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:17:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
korean dog slaughterhouses have given more than 1 of my friends night terrors just because of the sounds emitted from the warehouses. String them up by their rear paws, slit their throat, onto the next. Its brutal
I'm not a fan of dog or cat meat. But I've eaten just about any common animals out there, and some exotic ones. So I wouldn't eat cat or dog because I'm not a fan of the feel, but the same could be said about snakes, alligator, and certain birds or rodents. Everything is a possible dinner, or at least snack.
vandoh · 1 points · Posted at 05:22:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
they skin animals alive
vandoh · 1 points · Posted at 05:21:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
When it comes down to it humans are on top of the food chain. IMHO as long as there is no suffering and as long as the species is not endangered, I don't have a problem with the fundamentals of killing an intelligent animal for food. I do think it's a waste of life if it's for sport, but if you get a few meals out of it, it's not a complete waste.
It's all what ifs at that point. I'm talking about wild game, if you want to twist it and say you could hunt humans as well, it's not exactly making a point. Cannibalism/murder is obviously something entirely different, also eating a retarded version of ourselves is no better of a picture and completely irrelevant. But there's even some cultures (endocannibalism) that eat their relatives/friends once they pass away. You know what? I say fuck it, allow it because it's their bodies, their culture and a world away from what I'm doing/what concerns me. It's all so subjective.
Thought I was pretty direct the first time, but I'll try again. I have no problem with people killing intelligent wild life as long as they don't torture it and it's not endangered. I think it's more about you not accepting it.
Because that's incredibly stupid and immoral, and you avoided my question about humans.
You said you'd eat someone that 'passed away', but didn't say whether you'd murder someone and eat them.
I'd assume you wouldn’t, but I can't say for sure given your other answers.
So, would you murder and eat a Neanderthal, but not a human? What's the difference? What about an Australopithecine? If no, they why would you murder and eat a Chimp?
You still haven't articulated where you draw the line at all.
Meat that comes from animals that were under duress while being killed is tough. You want unsuspecting lobsters for tender meat, not ones grasping to get out a pot before they go.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 00:29:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't know why you were downvoted. It's called PSE meat (pale, soft, exudative) and it occurs when the PH in the meat is off due to lactic acid buildup caused by short term stress before slaughter. It ruins the meat quality. But please sheeple keep believing we are mean and torture animals for fun before we kill them.
Ever had venison from a deer that was killed with an unclean shot compared to one that immediately died? It's why hunters go for the heart and shoulder. Best case scenario the heart stops pumping, worst case you still hit them in the shoulder so they can't run away, making it easier for you to end the torment fast.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:27:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:14:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
For lobster I would agree. I don't tend to take it out of shrimp or crawfish though, unless it is near bursting full. Too much trouble otherwise and adds a bit of extra flavor.
I don't see how pain is that significant. If you were going to be killed when you had decades of healthy life left otherwise, would you be more worried about weather it took 0.5 second or 10 second, or would you be more worried about not living? Why would animals judge that differently?
Really? Like you would not be ok with a minute of pain to have a reasonable chance of avoiding it and living another day?
I get that no one likes pain, but the point is that being killed is probably worse than the pain of being killed, so I don't get why people would care about pain but not death.
Yeah, even though the pig is still squealing and gurgling as it is hanging by its back legs getting its throat slit, I hear it's a "painless death" so it's totally OK to kill it.
Did I miss something? Only third world countries and hick farmers slit animals throats for slaughter, that's been out of commercial farming for quite some time. I'm not saying the current way pigs are "stunned" is any better, there's been research done that brings up the real possibility many of them are still conscious when they are put into scalding tanks to soften their skin, basically going the same way lobsters do. Many private farmers have a tool called a bolt gun that shoots a piston out of the end with a blank, they set it up against the animals head and it's basically an instant headshot, it's just too slow for mass production (average commercial farm kills 1k pigs per hour).
Go on YouTube and watch 'Earthlings'. That's all I have to say about it. Those aren't third world countries in that video. Those are the largest slaughterhouses in the US.
Horse is actually quite good. The horse meat my parents would get from Holland was always thinly sliced and salted well, it was almost like prosciutto but much darker in colour. It was an every day item in my fridge growing up as my parents are from Holland and the dutch happen to love it.
I had a pet pig a couple of times growing up. One was named Porkchop, one was named Ham. I think there was even one called Bacon. And they tasted as good as they were named.
Rabbits taste great, and they can be major douchebags when they're alive.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:19:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pigs are really clever too- people go on about not eating dogs because or cats because they think they're clever, but they're pretty dim (cats especially) relative to pigs.
Aema · 26 points · Posted at 23:20:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, this billboard makes me wonder if I should reevaluate my stance on horse...
When I was a kid my mom would tell me we were eating chicken when we were actually eating rabbit. I was a teenager before I realized that chickens don't have four legs.
I like how they include 3 breeds of cat and 4 breeds of dog, but don't show the various breeds of cows, chickens, ducks, pigs. Sure, they show a dairy cow, but we don't eat dairy cows until they're too old to produce milk.
They are all technically edible (and probably all delicious). The line is drawn by culture, but the board obviously wants you to believe it is drawn by morals. It's important to realize culture and morals are not the same things. Failing that just makes you sound elitist, like the board.
I think your comment misses its point, which is actually remarkably similar to yours. The line, you are quite right to say, is drawn by culture; there isn't really any logic to it. It seems in most cases it is an imprint of prehistoric necessity or preference, rather than any kind of valid distinction. I'd say that this is what the advert wants you to think about (and presumably its author prefers that you conclude from this that none of those animals should be eaten, as opposed to the alternative that all of them should).
Thats better than the "i love all animals" stance imo. The only difference between you and me now is how i dont agree with the suckish lives they have to go through and the unsustainability of the meat industry as the human population grows (especially environmentally.)
Cannibalism gives you some crazy sicknasty diseases.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 06:09:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't it generally bad to eat too much of a top of the food chain animal in general though? I could be wrong, but isn't there a lot of crap that doesn't get filtered out, and the further up the chain you are, the more condensed it gets in your system?
I may just be spouting some old wives tale bs I heard somewhere, but I would like to be set right if it is incorrect.
It's more about mass consumed (by all members of the food chain leading to you) than being top of the chain though, if I understand it correctly.
Like, you have an opossum eaten by a carnivorous dog, who'll go on to consume say 50t of biomass over his lifetime. the thing is, multiply that by the 5t~ of biomass [all the things he's eaten] have eaten, and now you're looking at 250t of biomass vs 10t of biomass from a chicken, or something like that.
Point being, Whales are supposedly not too hot to eat not because they're top of the food chain but because they manage to rack up one hell of a biomass consumption total even by themselves.
Biomass here is sort of a catchall for critters/plants eaten, and the important thing is you can expect a certain amount of unfilterables per quota of biomass. Since those stick around unlike the rest, the dog's got 25x as much bad shit hanging around in his meat as the chicken, rather than the expected 5x just from how much they eat directly.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 09:07:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thank you for writing it out so plainly. I actually understand the concept a hell of a lot better now. I am also glad to know that at least my thoughts were in the right direction, just not quite on the mark.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:21:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Only if you eat brain matter that's infected with Kuru/ Creutzfeldt jakob disease.
You don't just magically get ill from it.
That doesn't take in to account the info from your own comment on concentrations of stuff in predators however, which is pretty interesting.
You can get the same illness from infected cattle, there was a big scare about it in the UK in the 90s.
If meat wasn't indirectly subsidised and the environmental costs not externalised, the resulting realistic prices would bring consumption down to sustainable levels. And there wouldn't be much rejoicing anymore
over eating rabbit meat is called rabbit starvation. It's also bad, but can be fixed by eating other things along with the rabbit, like large amounts of starches and veggies, basically a good rabbit stew.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 23:55:55 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
There is also the co-evolution argument for dogs and cats
Which could also be made for pigs and cows to be honest. Nothing like the ones we have ever existed before we selectively bred them for domestication (and optimum tastiness)
hedic · 4 points · Posted at 02:12:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Man, pigs are smart and piglets will bond with you. Finding that out and seeing them in action made me not want to eat pork anymore. Wild boars and giant hogs can be massive assholes though.
Seriously, +1 for you. People saying others are horrible for eating a certain animal are just fucking stupid. By that logic, we're horrible too because we eat beef as cows are sacred animals in India.
I don't really mind. I found that whatever argument you put up, people will never change their mind about such things. Especially on Reddit. So I chose to not give a fuck
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:22:13 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm on my.phone at the moment but isn't it something to do with their carnivorous diet? Like how you can eat beef almost completely raw because cows eat only grass whereas pork has to be cooked and can still make you I'll because pigs are omnivores.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 00:18:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
actually the thing you (used) to get from eating raw pork- Trichinosis, Hasnt been an issue in North america for a very long time. Technically you can eat pork raw and be fine, its just pretty gross thing to do.
Pretty much tastes like pork. Not too bad dipped in Korean BBQ sauce and cooked at your table. 7/10, would eat again if offered, wouldn't order myself.
I tried rabbit for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was really disappointed. It seemed like white meat chicken without the flavor. However, I did prepare it myself (braised with beer, thyme, and onions) and I'm sure that many more experienced chefs could have done more with it.
Yeah, no way horse beats rabbit in tastiness unless you're counting dog food.
idma · 1 points · Posted at 00:59:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
tried dog. its not half bad. Rabbit is pretty damn awesome when done right
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:03:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hells yeah. If you're ever in Portland head to Katchka for their braised rabbit in clay pot. You'll order an entire loaf of bread to sop up the braising liquid when you're done and hate yourself for hours after ... but it's so worth it.
Fucking delicious. It had become a sort of tradition to have fresh rabbit and rabbit stew on Thanksgiving. Also I've only had the opportunity to taste it once, but horse is really tasty as well. There are very few animals I wouldn't try at least once
Yeah I'd move the line over to include rabbit. I'm not that excited about eating horse, but other countries eat it, how bad could it be? Horse and rabbit stew has got to be tasty.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:17:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Came here to say switch the horse and the rabbit
CRISPR · 1 points · Posted at 02:41:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had a funny story. Acquaintance of mine was looking to buy a sheep for a traditional Kurbani slaughter. He found a family who were selling sheep. He came to a lovely American house, the young daughter opened the door, and he it was - her house pet they wanted to sell.
He said he changed his mind to buy. He found some Muslim farmer family later who sold him the Qurbani
It is also the most efficient at turning grains/grasses into protein. I will be raising meat rabbits in my backyard once my kids are old enough to do the chores.
We don't eat predators on a large scale because it's just incredibly inefficient (energy wise) to raise animals to feed to animals to eat, when you could just cut out the middle man and eat the first set of animals you raised. Carnivores are much less suited as livestock than herbavores for this reason, so when they're domesticated it tends to be for the purposes of companion/service/work animals.
Horses (while not a complete exception) have both practical and hobby uses beyond just eating, and that's really what keeps them off the chopping block for the most part. Other traditionally food animals are useful in other ways as well, but not so useful that we'd avoid eating them altogether.
Another reason not to eat carnivores is a process called biomagnification, due to which certain substances (e.g. some toxic chemicals, heavy metals) tend to appear in higher concentrations in higher trophic levels.
Rule of thumb from what I've read would be don't exceed a can of light tuna every other day or tuna sushi once or twice a week.
Tuna has 20 times the mercury concentration of salmon, which in my opinion, is even "meltier". So, go crazy on salmon sushi. I believe you'll be sending it back the way it came from before you can eat enough to get mercury poisoning from salmon.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 00:33:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They also taste different. I duck hunt and diving ducks that eat fish, such as a Hooded Merganser tastes much different (nasty) than a puddle duck like a mallard or a shoveler
Consider too that the idea of raising herbivores for food (prior to that, hunting them) was so that they can turn things we can't eat (grass, leaves, etc) into things we can eat (meat and milk).
That might have been the idea and it was probably true at some time. But today that's not really true in the majority of cases. A third of all crops gown is used to feed livestock.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:49:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lol wut? Humans can eat those things no problem.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:59:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I mean, technically we can eat anything but try eating just grass for even two days and see how you feel. Human stomachs can't break down and digest grass so you'll just get really sick and suffer malnutrition since you're not getting the nutrients you need from digesting the grass
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:45:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You'll also get sick and malnourished if the only thing you ever eat is cow. There isn't any one food item capable of fulfilling all your nutritional requirements, that's not really a sufficient critique of eating or not eating something.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:20:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah but you can digest cow
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:22:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You can also digest grasses. Ever eat bread?
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 06:26:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We can't digest cellulose, not grasses specifically. So, we also can't digest wood.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:25:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We can eat them, but we can't digest cellulose. Ruminants can, hence the four stomachs. You need to catch up on your basic human biology.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:56:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We can't digest cellulose but we can still break down and absorb nutritional contents from other portions of the grass. Though I was more of laughing at the concept that we can't eat leaves because people eat lettuce all the time. Also, this thing called wheat which is type a grass is part the largest food group we eat that all the time.
Bonus: Before you say "oh well we can't eat it raw therefore it's still better to eat the cow" Keep in mind we don't eat cows raw either. So whether or not something can be eaten raw isn't really a critique of it's digestibility compared to the digestibility of a cow.
Dogs are omnivores and not obligate carnivores, and cultures that ate dogs often fed them a vegetarian diet plus table scraps. Examples include Hawaiian poi dogs and some of the Mexican hairless breeds.
This versatility of diet is actually one reason why dried dog food contains a greater amount of grain content than cat food. They can handle it, while cats can't, and it's much cheaper. It's probably a product of their earlier domestication and a greater reliance on human-provided food.
[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 00:45:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well dogs aren't obligated carnivores, meaning their bodies retain the ability to turn a lot of amino acids and vitamin A into their usable states. Now obligated carnivores such as cats and dolphins have lost this ability and require the formed amino acids, vitamins, and oils from other animals, and also have shortened digestive tracts that can struggle to break down plant matter. One of the many reasons to not feed your pet dolphin your dog food. It will miss out on several important dietary needs and can lead to serious health consequences.
Dogs are now omnivores, correct, but wolves are considerably less flexible, and it stands to reason that dogs became more omnivorous as a result of their co-evolution with humans. By the time they were capable of subsisting on vegetarian diets, their role had been more or less cemented.
Back in country we only feed our dogs meat.. sometime cooked.. sometime raw. sometime rice and noodles.
Our cat eats fish and meat only as well. The cat won't even touch any rice or anything.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 04:40:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Borat? Is that you?
[deleted] · 22 points · Posted at 01:15:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's also incredibly inefficient energy wise to raise any sort of animals for food because we need to grow all of the plants they eat during their life time as well as the animals themselves. Animal farming, especially free-range farming is the primary contributor to deforestation and one of the largest contributors to greenhouse gases on the planet. You could cut out the middle man and just eat plants.
Under what definition is that efficient? It's not even sustainable.
Not when the question is "when it pertains to animals, how do we determine which are food and which are pets" obviously the answer isn't absolute, but it's also rooted heavily in history. It's not just a comment on contemporary farming practices or logical boundaries, it's about what our ancestors decided the animal was useful for and why.
This is true, and crop rotation can be used to make sure the soil maintains the right minerals (especially nitrogen). That being said, grasslands need ruminants to be sustained.
Horses (while not a complete exception) have both practical and hobby uses beyond just eating, and that's really what keeps them off the chopping block for the most part. Other traditionally food animals are useful in other ways as well, but not so useful that we'd avoid eating them altogether.
No it's much simpler. If horses tasted good, we would eat them. They don't taste good, so we don't eat them.
Having never tried horse, I couldn't speak to that.
Jimmni · 3 points · Posted at 12:35:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whole heap of countries eat horse and think it's delicious. Most of the countries that don't don't eat it because they consider eating horse "weird," it has nothing to do with taste.
We should eat or process old horses. It's a shame that we killed all the abatoirs in the US. Now people abandon old horses because it costs money to dispose of an old horse.
And salmon farming is horrendously detrimental to the ocean's fish stock. Especially populations of anchovies, herring, and sardines.
I wasn't specific in my post, but I was mostly addressing why we perceive some domestic animals as food and others as pets. I mentioned it responses to other people, but I was focusing on just domestic animals, wild caught animals don't really conform to that definition, but none of those were included in the sign either. Salmon farming is more recent, but I wouldn't exactly call them domestic animals.
Regardless, you're right, they are an exception to the rule, but they are terribly terribly inefficient animals to farm (as opposed to other livestock, that are just really very inefficient).
I don't know if there are large scale farming operations for mako.
Salmon farming is some places based on fish protein, other places based on soy protein (where I work). But we're working to develop more sustainable feeds such as growing tunicates, algae and seaweed.
Salmon isn't as inefficient as land predators though. Being cold blooded, their metabolism makes them way more efficient than land animals. But compared to cod or similars, it's inefficient.
thr3sk · 0 points · Posted at 02:09:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Add tuna and swordfish to that list too. However I think you are missing the point - taste is irrelevant, eating a predator is extremely wasteful since humans could simply eat the initial prey item. Considering the massive environmental damage we are causing that needs to be a big factor in our dietary choices.
Horses are incredibly inefficient at turning plants into horse meat, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't utilize some form of quantum digestion like a schrodingers gut.
I'm fine with people eating animals in principle, but practically speaking it's not very sustainable.
Like on a small scale, some people have some sheep that eat the grass on rocky hills that you could never cultivate crops on anyway, and they want to eat them? Sure. But not everyone can have a handful of sheep and a rocky hill. The livestock industry isn't sustainably managed, and it's not great for a number of other reasons; but I can't very well argue that the only people who should be allowed to eat meat are the people who raised the animals. I guess in my ideal world meat consumption would be reduced, largely for practical environmental reasons, but I don't object to meat consumption on ethical grounds.
I just ask because recently I had a conversation with a vegan and in the end my only defence was that I choose to still kill animals and eat their meat ,even though we can live (as well from what she thought) without it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:35:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This kind of supports the point of the billboard, we feel its wrong to eat those animals but not chickens because of conditioning not any sort of inherent moral issue.
Yeah, it's mostly down to historically which animals were best to eat, so it's almost entirely a socially conditioned response. That said, the billboard itself is making a moral argument here, which I don't think is a particularly strong position to take.
Wouldn't another reason be that carnivorous animals, at least the wild ones, have far less fat on them? I mean there's a lot of meat you can get off a cow. There can't possibly be that much meat that you can get from say a wolf. I'm sure it's possible but in the long run I'm sure our nomadic ancestors found it easier and more economic (in terms of how much meat is returned for the work) to hunt an elk or buffalo. Of course, maybe I'm wrong but I always thought that was the reason we ended up with the livestock we have.
I know predators also accumulate more toxins from their food, which will often make then unsuitable for consumption.
Jimmni · 1 points · Posted at 12:34:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wonder if the number of countries that eat horse (or would do so without stigma if more horses were available) is greater than or fewer than the number of countries that do not eat horse.
alawa · 1 points · Posted at 14:54:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We don't eat predators on a large scale because it's just incredibly inefficient (energy wise) to raise animals to feed to animals to eat
Compared to eating plants, raising animals is incredibly inefficient.
At one point sure it was efficient to eat anything, through technology and advancement we were able to make it more efficient by cutting it down mostly herbivores. We've come even farther now and really the meat and dairy industries are the least efficient sources of food. The 'most efficient' argument doesn't really work. The only real reason that people consume animal products is because they taste good to them. Literally no animal product are required for a healthy life yet we still raise living beings just to have billions of animals raped and slaughtered so we can get a nice oily slice of their corpse on our dinner tables because our temporary pleasure is worth the life, happiness and freedom of others
I should have perhaps clarified for meat. Of course the livestock industry isn't efficient, I'm just saying it would be doubly inefficient if we made a habit of eating carnivores, which is the main characteristic that divides food and pet animals (historically) besides generally being reasonably edible at all.
thcinc · -1 points · Posted at 00:08:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This human gets it. Thank you for making myself feel a little less alone around this place.
it's just incredibly inefficient (energy wise) to raise animals to feed to animals to eat, when you could just cut out the middle man and eat the first set of animals you raised.
Raising any animals large scale is inefficient. We use tons of land and water to grow feed for livestock and then use more land and water to raise the livestock. Way more energy goes in than we get out.
Rather, not industrially. Cats can be eaten large scale in areas where their feral populations run rampant (usually because the rodent populations are also booming), but no one (to my knowledge) runs a cat farm for meat production.
You're basically hunting wild animals at that point, which is out of the scope of domestic animals and the livestock industry.
[deleted] · 73 points · Posted at 21:16:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Socially acceptable and tastes good might be reasons, but the point of the billboard is to specifically force you to answer that question of why you would draw the line right there.
force you to answer that question of why you would draw the line right there.
Because anything to the left of my line is not sold at the grocery store. Otherwise I'd try anything and continue to eat what tastes good. I would not slaughter and eat my cat, because I derive more pleasure from her being alive and a source of purr noises and cuddles.
Some might empathize with the conscious experience that exists in other species, and therefore find it difficult to unnecessarily kill them for pleasure (hunt/tastes good).
I just ate a juicy double butter-burger from Culver's, so I have no money on the race (God DAMN it was good). I'm just one of those odd people that respects both answers. shrugs
I don't like veganism being advertised like this, because it perpetuates the "preachy vegan" stereotype. I'd rather the topic be discussed through argument and reason. But other than this sign, I can't attest to ever having met a vegan who was pushy or preachy about their veganism. The trope seems to be a myth. It usually goes, "Want some meat?" "No I'm a vegan." "Oh, okay." But almost daily do I encounter a meme where someone who eats meat makes a tongue-in-cheek comment about how silly or lame vegans are. I do not understand the hostility towards vegans. Why do you care that vegans don't eat meat, unless you're harboring some guilt about it yourself?
Because abstaining from something another person enjoys is easily interpreted as a value judgement against that person. The implication is that they're doing something morally wrong. That's why the hostility is almost exclusively one directional: Meat eaters -> non-meat eaters. Vegetarians and vegans, with some extremely rare exceptions, don't aggressively push their agenda on others because the blowback would be extreme.
It's really frustrating because I have literally never gone up to anyone and shamed them for eating meat. On the other hand, I have been teased and hassled multiple times for being vegetarian. Somehow vegetarians/vegans get the bad name for being aggressive/smug/pushy, though. Being vegetarian, vegan, or a meat eater is a personal choice, I think it would be really nice if everyone respected each other's lifestyle on this issue.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:59:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In real life this has never been an issue for me actually but online it has, oddly enough. I have veggie friends (mix of vegan, vegetarian & pescatarian) and I've never seen or heard them getting hassled OR hassling anyone about animal rights. Honestly at most it comes up when we selected what restaurant to meet at.
I have teetered on the fence, but I'm not presently a vegan. However, I seriously respect you lot for your dedication to a cause, even if it's not one I agree with 100%. People who get worked up over vegans display a serious lack of conviction, imo.
It's similar in ways to how the average atheist will get called out as militant for some snarky Internet post, while the theists go about hacking up bloggers with machetes and beheading non-believers.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:42:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I once went on a date with this girl who was vegan,I had no idea because she never said anything. I took her to a place to eat, ordered myself a dish with meat. She scolded me and went to the nearest bus stop to go home. Like wtf, if you're a vegan or vegetarian and I'm taking you out to eat, please tell me or I won't know. I know she is an oddball but those people do exist.
Seriously what the hell is with the daily vegan jokes on this subreddit lately? Not a single day has passed in about a week where I haven't seen a stupid vegan joke at the top.
Ehhh.... Its just one of those things where people remember the worst example of some group. I was vegetarian for a few years and met a lot of vegans. 9/10 of them were pretty chill... But its just that one self-righteous whiny person who gives everyone else a bad name.
We like to keep to our containment sub for the bitching and reserve the understanding and logic for when we go out in the community. A lot of the preachy vegan stereotype comes from people listening to vegans talk amongst themselves and imagining that they would talk the same way in public. Most vegans disagree with meat-eaters, but we recognize that it's ultimately your decision. We would like to convince you to join us, amd sometimes we get enthusiastic about that, but we're not trying to step on any toes.
Isn't this a logical argument to westerners though? Is it fair that a veg- can't put up a billboard asking where the line is yet there will be 50 billboards and restaurant signs in the vicinity advertising meat? Why isn't that preachy? Because its accepted as the norm.
ibbity · 0 points · Posted at 22:41:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Advertising a product for sale is not the same thing as making a public statement that you think that people should reconfigure their habits to your specifications on the basis that you personally believe they are morally repugnant for the ones they currently have. If the "meat for sale" signs were saying "Buy our meat or you're doing something wrong and are therefore a bad person," the comparison would be more apt.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:28:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm constantly, seeing posts putting down these 'preachy vegans' too- and yet despite having met loads of vegans, I have never had one preach about their beliefs to me.
Just loads of defensive omnivores lashing out against an entirely imagined threat.
At my university they were very pushy. We even had meatless mondays in the dining halls. I don't care what you do, but when you take away the food I enjoy eating so you can send your message that's when I get angry. It especially pissed me off because i was weight training and needed to consume a lot of protein. Now i know you can get a good amount of protein from some vegan dishes but they usually had dishes either with shit I didn't like or straight up couldn't eat. So of course after a day of classes, studying, and hitting the gym all I want is a good meal. So eat your veggies and I'll have my chicken breast and we can coexist peacefully.
That was a quick response! I reread my message and it sounded a bit bitter so I just wanted to state that I'm completely fine with vegans. I just hated how they pushed it so hard on us there. Outside of school though I never experienced anything even close to preachy.
Just an opinion, not a judgement but I think a lot of alpha males look at non meat eaters as lesser than,or beta males if you will. Who's more likely to be a vegetarian, the big muscle bound athlete looking guy or the skinny guy with glasses? Now who is the easier target to pick on? That's why people fuck with you. It's wrong, and maybe it doesn't apply in all cases, but I think that's where it stems from.
I'm 6'4" and 240 pounds. I've been a vegan on and off all my life (not currently right now, too much other shit going on in my life). Maybe your hypothetical is true for some vegans, but come to think of it, every vegan I've known IRL, including one marine, has not been the "nerdy" type.
I don't understand the point you're making. Who said I disagree with them being insecure? The OP asked why people look down on vegans and I simply noted the types of people that I've noticed that do.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:22:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Or you could be like my ex girlfriend who knew I liked meat, would never be vegan, and yet still got pissed when she brought up howbad eating meat was. It was always little things that brought it up.
"I don't think I will live with someone that is not vegan".
"Except me of course."
"commence her telling me facts about why meat is bad and getting mad that I don't change my way of life overnight"
So because you've never seen one it must be a myth? Granted it doesn't happen everywhere every day but it does happen enough to warrant these posts. Maybe they even helped some of the overly preachy vegans see how annoying they were being and most of them stopped. Who knows.
I'm not saying all vegans are that pushy type, I'm just saying they exist enough that these posts happen so much.
Are you talking about dirt cake? It's great. Last I had a good dirt cake was my ex coworker's last day on the job. Late 20's here. The whole office kept saying that we like eating dirt, ha
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:22:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's super common. Baskin Robbins sells/sold it as dirt and worms.
sfoxy · 5 points · Posted at 00:56:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
American here. I visited my gf family in Trujillo, Peru and they served guinea pig. It's very similar to rabbit. If you haven't had that I would say it tastes like dark chicken meat but greasier and more flavorful.
point is a "feed dog" is not fundamentally different than a house pet. All domesticated Canis Lupis are basically the same, especially in the brain. It's just the outward appearance that varies superficially.
True, but I don't think I have any fundamental problem eating most animals if they are raised and killed humanely. About the only things I'd draw the line at are Great Apes and other higher primates, and maybe dolphins and whales. About anything else is low enough on the intelligence/sapience scale for me that as long as they are treated humanely in life and death, I'm ok with it.
-edit- I'll add that in our culture, the larger moral problem with eating animals that we traditionally consider pets is not from it's impact on the animals but it's impact on the humans who keep them. If you kill and eat someones pet dog, it causes a whole mess of emotional harm to the pet owner, and dogs and cats are so ingrained in our social conciousness (in this country and in most of the west) that eating any dog or cat, an owned pet or otherwise, causes similar harm.
[deleted] · 15 points · Posted at 00:01:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
You are right of course, a lot of animals in this country aren't treated humanely but that just means you need to be more selective about where you get your meat and be willing to pay higher prices.
One valid complaint about China and its dog and cat meat festivals, consumption, and animal consumption in general is how purposefully cruel it is. Dogs and cats are skinned alive, boiled and blowtorched alive, butchered alive and fully conscious, beaten, etc. they claim it makes the meat taste better and they throughly enjoy torturing the animal. (Not all Chinese, many people try to stop this).
I mean, that's pretty clearly wrong no matter what species it is. I don't pull the wings off flies for no reason either, and I'm pretty sure they lack any sapience let alone sentience
That's a big IF.
But I sort of do make a distinction between historically bred feed animals like cattle and chickens, and the domesticated dog, which this Nureongi isn't any different from. We've bred farm animals to be docile and essentially dumb (relative term). That's not to say these animals don't have mortal fear, but I think they don't crave human attention nearly as much as dogs, which we've carefully bred into them over 50k years. We selectively bred dogs to love and respect us, so it feels like kind of a betrayal to me to abuse that trust. Cows and chickens I suspect couldn't really care less about us (in general, of course some probably do). It's not about the manner of their death, its their happiness in life to me. And I think a dog raised in a farm cage is less happy than a cow.
Pigs I know have at least a superficially more advanced type of intelligence than the average farm animal as far as I've heard. If I have a problem eating any farm animal it's that one (but I still eat them).
I understand most of this is speculative, it's just my feeling and how I justify having a larger moral problem with feed dogs.
Other people may have the opposite opinion, or more likely that there is no difference. That's fair if that's what they honestly feel.
I always heard that whale tastes awful which fuels the controversy with Japanese whaling. The younger generations aren't keen on it but they fish it (is it still fishing if it's a mammal?) anyway.
I'm sure different whale has different tastes and textures, but I thought the whale I was served in Gifu had a better taste and texture than tuna sashimi. (I was drinking/eating with members of the older generation.)
I'm not against whaling, but it needs to be done in a humane way, regulated so it's not over-fished, and Japan needs to stop lying about it being for research. If this doesn't happen (it won't), I doubt I'll be eating whale again.
brain size has nothing to do with intelligence. The chihuahua and german shepherd's brains are wired the same way.
Was Andre The Giant twice as smart as Stephen Hawking?
Besides men's brains are generally slightly larger than women's, corresponding to body size. To suggest that bigger brains are more intelligent has extremely profound implications were it true. But it's not.
People generally don't farm carnivores for consumption. It is extremely inefficient when compared with herbivores. Most people also don't grow/hunt their own food and they want to pay as little as possible for it. That's why we mostly eat herbivores.
That's not real dog meat, that's filler meat. Not advertized as dog meat.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:17:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
When people eat dog it's not your house dog but a breed of dog for eating
What difference does that make to the dog? I gaurantee you both breeds of dogs have the exact same desire to live and be free from harm, so why is it justifiable to cause that conflict of interest if you have other sources of food that aren't capable of suffering?
Most of those animals eat animals too
They don't have access to a grocery store and can't contemplate the moral consequences of their actions.
What is your problem with people eating meat? Beyond the questionable farming practices of some industries. I live rural and raise much of my own produce and buy from local butchers for meat. I also hunt deer, boars and fish.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 04:21:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Because of the environmental and ethical implications, I think it's preferable for humanity to make a shift from animal to plant products. I'll explain further.
Animal agriculture is one of the primary contributors to greenhouse gases, even edging out forms of transportation. This is a study by the United Nations Environment Programme I think you'll find interesting. it is also the primary contributor to deforestation worldwide.
On top of this, practices like chick culling and gestation crates just to name a couple horrific devices use in the animal agriculture industry, are inescapable realities of our desire to consume animal products. Animals are sentient and have interests and desires of their own. Whatever moral value you decide to give them, they deserve at least the right to be free from harm.
If we are a just species, and if we want to protect our planet, we will take these issues seriously, don't you think?
Edit about your edit:
Beyond the questionable farming practices of some industries
Look, you can't just handwave this issue like that. I know every single meat eater on reddit gets their meat from a local butcher and never buys animal products at a grocery store or restaurant, but you can't ignore the reality that if we want animal products on a regular basis at any sort of affordable price (and that's with ridiculous subsidies), cruelty is the price we pay.
Please explain how we get eggs without chick culling. Please explain how we get milk & cheese witout separating calves at birith, selling the young. Please explain how you get a steak without slitting a cow's throat at a fraction of it's natural lifespan, ignoring it's clear desire to live. This is not "some industries", this is the reality of animal agriculture.
If you want to here about factory farms, where 99% of our animal products come from, I can talk about that. But I'm not.
I specifically said that large meat industries had questionable practices. That's why I but local from butchers. Sorry but you are never going to stop people from eating meat and you are retarded to try. You are better off reforming the meat industry practices and finding better ways to mitigate carbon. Sorry but I and every other meat eater WILL NEVER stop eating meat.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:36:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Can you please read my edit? I addressed that point specifically and you seemed to have skipped over it. There are inherent conflicts of interest in making animal products that go beyond the shit that goes on in factory farms.
I'll ask again: how do we get eggs without chick culling, how do we get dairy without calf separation and artificial insemination? If these don't go on where you local butcher gets his animal products this should be easy for you to answer.
Beyond that, why is it justifiable to take a concious life at a fraction of it's natural lifespan, no matter how well you treat them?
finding better ways to mitigate carbon
We have a solution that nearly everyone can participate in now. Climate change is an immediate threat and your solution is "yeah, lets put it off tho because bacon"
jorvay · 8 points · Posted at 23:31:49 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Leaner. The Dutch make a smoked horse meat that is shaved paper thin and extra salty. It's a bit like prosciutto but lean and it falls apart in your mouth. So Damn good.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 23:38:41 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Most of those animals eat animals too.
Yes you're right about that. But in those cases, the animals eaten are given the chance to live in nature. The animals you eat are not. They live short miserable lives. There's a big difference between hunting for food and mass producing it.
Why must an animal's life be miserable just because they're raised for slaughter? Every farmer I know who has livestock cares deeply about his/her animals. They spend time out in the field with them, know them by name, and are tearful when they're sent off for slaughter.
Rostin · 3 points · Posted at 00:34:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Really? I grew up on a farm. A real farm that was my parents' sole livelihood, not a hobby farm or something they did after walking away from successful careers as something else. They hauled grain to an elevator in a truck, not organic vegetables to sell to yuppies at the farmer's market.
No farmer I ever knew formed
emotional attachments with livestock. In general, they had a completely unsentimental attitude about animals, which extended even to pets. I remember my dad once shooting a family pet, Old Yeller style, to put it out of its misery after it'd been hit by a car.
I personally did not grow up on a farm (although I technically live on one now), but at least 3 generations back of my family up my mother's side have been farmers. It may have gone back further but that's as far as my knowledge goes. My grandmother was a pig farmer and she absolutely loved her pigs, more so than she loves her current animals (some geese) and she's in tears if a fox gets one.
It may well just be one of the differences between American and English farms.
Because they were raised as food... If you put a human in a cage from birth and raise it as nothing but a food source with no interaction other than force feeding and cruelty they will be nothing like me or you. It doesn't mean that they aren't human, it means that they never had a chance.
I just don't think that it's possible that the meat dogs are so genetically removed from all the rest of dog-kind that they cannot be kept as pets. In fact, these dogs get rescued and rehomed all the time if they're young enough to be socialized.
Dogs are the only animal that require the social contact of another species (humans) for proper mental health. Loving humans is in their bones.
Not exactly crazy, but domestication, in a way, stunts development. For instance, wolves don't really bark for no reason unless they're pups. Dogs do. You're basically getting a wolf pack run by teenagers, no one knowing exactly what to do.
Domestication replaces innate behavior, or enhances certain behaviors that we deem valuable, but that prevents other behaviors natively found from presenting themselves, and those are if not essential at least extremely helpful to surviving without human interaction.
Oh, I see what you mean. I mean...I suppose so, but then couldn't you make the point that cows and horses and goats are basically all "stunted" in their developments and need human contact as well? That doesn't refute anything you said, but that seems like a rather odd conclusion.
Also from your comment above:
I just don't think that it's possible that the meat dogs are so genetically removed from all the rest of dog-kind that they cannot be kept as pets.
I agree with this statement, but I don't think it would be a large stretch to say "this breed of dog that is bred for eating is likely poor in temperament and would be a poor pet for most families".
Although I guess I don't really know why we care if the distinction between meat and pet dogs is cultural or not. Is the point to make people sympathise with meat dogs more and to stop the consumption of dogs as a whole?
You're confusing two posters. There are tons of feed animals that would cease to exist without human intervention. They are domesticated and breeding in the wild would be difficult. For some dogs, like the English Bulldog, it would be impossible.
If the dogs used solely for food have been domesticated in a manner that makes them optimal to the task of being eaten, then their domestication would not necessarily be in line with other breeds of dogs.
I mean, the fact is a border collie makes an awful pet. They were designed to work. You put them in a normal pet environment and they will eat your house out of boredom.
Domestication is a catchall term. The reason why breeds exist, ideally, for the most part, was so they could do very specific tasks.
But I was just replying to the feral dogs bit. I can say that Chow Chows, a breed that is used as a pet but was originally food stock, tend to be awful creatures. They tend to be dog aggressive, poor with children, and quick to bite. There are exceptions. Training can mitigate this behavior, but they are not golden retrievers.
But I also can't attest to how they taste, although the adage is, the blacker the tongue, the better the meat.
Uh, ok? I don't really see how that's relevant. Meat dogs are still dogs, it's not like they've reverted to wolves or anything. They can be perfectly good pets as long as they're not tortured from birth.
You're making a leap of logic by saying that just because those dogs are bred for meat, they do not retain the characteristics of pets. I do not see any evidence that that is the case. Those dogs can be and are rehabilitated and kept as pets. They have not lost the ability to have a normal relationship with humans.
Yeah idk where he is getting that. Dogs bred for meat are bred because they taste a certain way. It isn't like they are wild dogs that are incapable of being pets, its more like black labs seem to have tasty meat so people keep black labs as meat dogs.
The domestication isn't bred out of them or something. The overwhelming evidence would be that any other given breed with a job is still a domestic dog capable of being a loving loyal pet. Dogs for hunting, fighting, herding, etc all are totally capable of not doing any of those things, they are still domesticated dogs and a "meat dog" is no different.
That is only because they are raised in tiny cages without companionship. There is nothing inherent about these dogs that makes them less of a potential pet other than the unfortunate conditions that they are raised in.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:20:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whats cool is that in some countries that also don't really regard animal life as valuable if it is a desirable meat, is that they'll actually hang the "special breed" of dog from a rope and beat it with a stick because they believed traumatized meat is better.
Perhaps there is more adrenaline in the blood, or other hormones, that are released just before death that give it an extra kick. I don't know the science but the proof is in the meat!
In either case, I really just think this is all funny. Glad that reddit is always making fun of vegans (what a bunch of assholes anyways). People get so worked up about eating animals and meat and I just don't know why!? lol It's so dumb, meat tastes good! So I eat it. What other reason could you need!?
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 00:14:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Uh, where is the human meat?
sai911 · 3 points · Posted at 01:59:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well dogs are food in Asia.
I just remembered a thing that happened in my home town about dogs. Where I live we dont have animal shelters and stuff like that so we sometime have dog manifestation in some area. The government decides to move all Philippines workers to that area, in less than 2 months I swear to God the dogs all disappeared. They got eaten by them and im not joking about that lol.
In all seriousness, most people say that but I hardly ever see their behavior reflect it. It's more just a "yeah, someone should do something about that eventually" sentiment. At most they'll buy "free-range", which is a marketing term that essentially means the animals aren't kept in battery cages their entire lives and has nothing to do with the slaughter itself. This idea of rolling green hills and happy cows is essentially a fantasy, sure it exists, but it's not what you find in grocery stores or restaurants, you have to seek it out. And even then, they are still supplied with chickens from corporations that utilize practices such as chick culling and artificial insemination.
So theoretically, is it possible to farm animals without suffering? Sure, you can give them nice belly rubs and euthanize them in their sleep. But in a practical sense suffering is an inherent part of the production of all animal products. The only consistent viewpoints to have are "Fuck it, animals are cool but my taste buds are more important" or "I care about animal suffering so I'll stop buying animal products."
But in a practical sense suffering is an inherent part of the production of all animal products.
This is only true because we made it so. We could have mandated humane treatment from the very start of modern animal farming and not bitch about it at all now.
Humane in this sense BTW means a good, dignified life and a quick death. Not killing isn't on the menu for me either. At least until we grow meat in the lab at a cheap price.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 09:46:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So how do we feed the world's hunger for animal products without factory farms? How to you get cheap bacon without gestation crates? How to you get cheap eggs without chick culling? Never mind that, how do you get expensive animal products without these practices (and these are with massive subsidies)? It's impossible. That's what I mean when I say inherent. You say "mandate treatment" but that's just lip-service. We have laws that prevent "unecessary suffering" but they do noting because in a capitalist society "necessary suffering" is any suffering that increases efficiency.
These practices exist because we think it's acceptable to harm animals for reasons of pleasure and convenience. They won't go away until we speak with our wallets and stop buying this shit. Animal products require a conflict of interest with the animals they're made from. Either be comfortable that or don't eat them.
Also what about the rampant deforestation? Do you realize how much more land free-range farms take than factory farms? Free-range farms are already a massive strain on the environment.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:31:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
All this is why lab grown meat will be so great when it's more available- and it's price is falling at a fantastic rate.
You can't make half the world turn vegetarian based on values that they just don't have, most people do not give a shit about the animals.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 02:19:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 15 points · Posted at 02:23:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Let's do a thought experiment. Imagine all of the millions of vegetarians and vegans in the world are convinced by your airtight argument and decide to start eating meat overnight. Do you think the animal agriculture industry will make more animal products? Do you think they will make less animal products? Or do you think the production will stay the same?
Take your time.
This is a cheap way to take responsibility away from the consumer. We are all culpable in this.
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[deleted] · 14 points · Posted at 02:42:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Individuals make up those millions. This attitude stunts any sort of moral progress.
It's hard for me to imagine that they are all idiots.
They're not idiots. I never said you were an idiot, and I certainly wasn't an idiot for 19 years of my life. There's a difference between indoctrination and idiocy. I thought factory farming was the exception. I thought you needed meat, dairy and eggs to be an athlete, or at least an elite one. I thought vegans were loonies without any rational argument to their credit, I thought the food would be shit. I just wasn't aware, that doesn't mean I was stupid.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:57:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 03:02:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So you concede that it's morally problematic!? Everything's comin' up Leafheart.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:06:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 03:07:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah well I was m8
Still, I disgagree that this is not inconsistent. You are participating and funding an industry you see as immoral.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:31:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 01:38:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Read it three times then?
My point is there is no practical way to have an industry relying on the exploitation of animals while simulataneously prioritizing their well-being over production efficiency. Practices like chick culling, dehorning, removing babies from mothers, and artificial insemination are required to make animal products and those cannot possibly be called "treating animals right".
Think about it for a moment, why do you think factory farms have become so prevalent since the 60s? Because some supervillain thought it'd be neat to torture animals? No, because that's the only way the world can get animal products at any sort of affordable price on any sort of regular basis with it's current population (a population which is only increasing). Either reduce consumption drastically, or be fine with causing animals suffering. There is no middleground.
Basically what I'm saying is people who think animals should be treated well and still consume animal products want to have their cake and eat it too.
That's completely bullshit. I buy from a local butcher and have visited the farms they buy from. My grandfather was a farmer and raised cattle, pigs, and chicken in a very ethical manner. The farmers that supply my local butcher have the same ethics. The local restaurants buy from the same farms.
[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 02:08:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Where did your grandfather purchase his chickens? Did that corporation utilize chick culling? What about his cows, did he leave the calves with their mothers? Did he ever sell them to be made into veal? Did he utilize artificial insemination or purchase animals from corporations that did? What about the piglets, did he purchase them from corporations that ripped their testicles off or were they still there? Are you even aware of the answer to half of these questions?
I'm sure your grandfather's farm was much better than a factory farm, but the conflicts of interest are inherent and ubiqitous.
Edit: Also, notice how you say "local butcher" and not "restaurant" or "grocery store". Surely that's because you don't buy your animal products anywhere else, right? That always the case when an animal lover such as yourself buys from their local butcher.
My grandfather purchased all animals from the neighbors offspring. He would typically only buy females, with a single bull and boar for breeding. The factory farms are pretty nasty, and that's known to small farmers. You seem pretty adamant about either being for the ethical treatment of animals or eating meat, but I've seen plenty of places that produce meat in a very ethical manner. I've also driven across the country a dozen times and have seen many places that do not. The secret is to seek out local food, and if it isn't local, find a reputable source. I trust intelligentsia with coffee, and askinosie with chocolate. I can visit about 10 nearby farms for cheese, meat, and produce. The price is a bit higher, but honestly, it should be.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 02:33:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
neighbors offspring
And did they do any of the things I asked you about or not?
I've also driven across the country a dozen times and have seen many places that do not
By "seen", you mean you've seen their operation and made certain that they don't utilize any of the practices I mentioned?
You're moving the goalposts. But if you paid attention in the previous post, small farmers tend to despise factory farm procedures. So, the neighbors probably didn't do shitty things to animals. That's a pretty stupid qualification for ethical treatment. "Yeah, this animal was treated ethically, but what about the rest of its bloodline?" As for the second question, read my post again. I have indeed seen many places that do not treat animals in an ethical manner. I didn't need to take a tour to see that the animals were locked in stalls for the majority of their lives.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 03:06:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Moving goalposts
But... I literally just asked you to answer the questions I asked in my previous comment. Isn't that the opposite of moving goalposts?
But if you paid attention in the previous post, small farmers tend to despise factory farm procedures.
Oh, I see the misunderstanding. Those aren't "factory farm procedures." Factory farm procedures are keeping animals in cages where they can't turn or move their entire lives. Slamming piglets into concrete when they won't grow fast enough. Dehorning and debeaking without anesthetic. You know, the sort of living hell we've come to expect from the animal agriculture industry.
My questions were more related to the, like I keep saying, inherent practices across all animal farms.
probably didn't do shitty things to animals
probably
Hahaha. Yeah. That sure is convenient.
what about the rest of it's bloodline
More like
what about the industry I supported and funded when I made my purchase
I have indeed seen
No you haven't, because you just said "probably".
were locked in stalls for the majority of their lives.
Not one of the questions I asked.
Edit: You know one of my original points was that the farm you're describing is something you have to seek out and is not what you find in grocery stores and restaurants. It kind of sounds like you would agree.
At this point you've probably confused posts and responses. Your current response doesn't really make sense, and it makes it difficult to continue an intelligible discussion.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:18:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Only if you count responding to out of context portions of a statement as responding to the points of a post. Try again when you're sober.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:36:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You think the questions I asked were referring to factory farming practices when that is not the case. When asked if the farms you've seen or the farm your grandfather purchased his livestock from used the ubiqitous practices I asked you about, you essentially said "probably not" and couldn't specifically state whether those farms artificailly inseminated their animals, separated calves at birth, sold calves to veal farms, culled chicks etc. (or if they purchased from corporations that did). And I don't know what the hell you mean when you say I moved goalposts.
I'm sorry if my post was incoherent, I genuinely am high and you caught me on that, but I'm pretty sure I'm responding to the right person.
But factory farms are the only way the world can get animal products!
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 04:58:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not the only place we as individuals can go to purchase animal products, no. But it's what supplies virtually all of our grocery stores and restaurants.
If you think the world's population can be fed animal products on a regular basis with free-range happy joy joy sunshine organic family farms, you're fooling yourself.
Tell me, how would you go about creating an egg industry without chick culling? Or a dairy industry without veal? Go on.
There's suffering in all things. You clearly have an agenda here. I, for one, vote with my dollar and buy my beef from a local farm where I've seen how the animals are treated, but in the end it's just a fucking cow. If he didn't want to get eaten he shouldn't have been made out of steaks.
[deleted] · 17 points · Posted at 02:28:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's suffering in all things
What an inane thing to say. No shit, but why not reduce the amount of suffering in the world if we are capable of doing so?
You clearly have an agenda here
To share my opinion on the animal agriculture industry with my good friends on reddit?
I, for one, vote with my dollar
So do I. I vote for them not to be killed. And nice use of irony to mask your lack of rational arguments at the end there, lad!
Most meat does not come from blue collar middle class ranches, most meat comes from giant factory farms that treat chickens worse than most people treat inanimate objects.
[deleted] · 35 points · Posted at 01:00:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The reality is that a lot of commercial store and restaurant meat is supplied by livestock conglomerates that do not provide a good quality life for the livestock, nor quality work environments for the humans.
But small scale farms cannot afford to just have a cow or two die. Which is why ya'll care more about the animals. Tasty tasty animals.
Just because butchers do it one way doesn't mean that's the only way. They slaughter animals in these horrible ways because it's efficient, not because it's the most humane way. No one is saying that we must end all suffering; there is no way to do that and still get our meat. But we can make it a quick death and not this ridiculous torture we put animals through nowadays. This kind of slaughter isn't even close to the worst thing we systematically do to animals. But we can and should fix all of those problems.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 20:38:15 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
When I said to respect them and care for them, I meant to treat them as living things. Most, if not all factory farms beat, and torture those animals before killing them. However, in some family farms, the farmers care for the animals and kill them humanely to ensure a quick ans painless death.
moskie · 0 points · Posted at 13:28:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
treat them as living things
But what do you mean by this? Why should living things, like farm animals, be treated well and with respect?
Most people think that but nobody wants to put the burger down
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:34:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Doing that also insures it is better for us. If they live in good conditions when raised then there is less of chance something will be wrong with the food products. When you look at the way we mass farm cows in the US to feed our over consumption of meat (people in the US eat way too much meat in unhealthy proportions) the cows stand and lay around in their own feces all day, are fed food that is not natural for them and doesn't give them proper nourishment, are giving hormones and antibiotics (the latter of which is just stupid, are companies trying to create super bacteria?). There is no way all of the stuff we do to those animals does not affect us in some negative way. This is why I try to buy locally raised meat, because I know they were not kept in a cage, they were given hormones or antibiotics, that they were grass fed, etc. All of that insures that the cow is most likely healthy and it also taste better that way as well.
Which is why I can't understand why people get so angry about others eating horse meat. Horses aren't bred for their meat, they get to do all kinds of other stuff and when they die the meat is used. Much more ethical if you compare to cows for instance, plus the meat can be as good as beef tenderloin.
"But, but, horses and dogs are our friends!" you say. So? That doesn't make it worse to eat them, it just demonstrates that you only care about them because they're YOUR friends and you like them. It's not about their lives, it's about your feelings.
Is there any actual factual study done on this? Because most stuff I see is opinion pieces. Same thing with the shot people give hormones, but i understand the science better behind hormones than antibiotics. Anyways I was just curious.
I was under the impression that you were saying eating meat that was fed antibiotics can lead to resistance in humans. But rather it seems that you were saying that it can lead to resistant bacteria or "superbugs".
Both really. According to the CDC, the overuse of antibiotics in livestock can create resistant bacteria within the livestock. If that livestock is killed and then it's undercooked meat is served to you, those resistant bacteria could grow in your own gut. Also if the livestock's manure is used to fertilize crops, those resistant bacteria can live on crops that when unwashed, are consumed by humans.
They are rapidly speeding up the evolution of some bacteria and making them immune to antibiotics, which could have disastrous effects in the near future.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:49:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is more due to irresponsible use of antibiotics in livestock. The key to resistance is you have to leave some alive. As long as you use a proper dosage you don't have much to worry about. It's when using too low of a dose or not finishing up that weeks worth your doctor told you to take is when the stronger ones survive and you end up creating things like super bacteria AIDS.
Yes, you are right, commonly farmed animals are capable of emotions like fear, joy, empathy, etc. just like dogs are. They can also obviously feel physical pain as well so the way they are treated is absolutely horrendous.
Why not just give them a good life and not kill them? There are many benefits both morally and environmentally, and we don't need meat to survive anymore.
And before anyone says "because it tastes good", you obviously haven't had buffalo cauliflower "wings" yet. :P
Why not just give them a good life and not kill them?
Not many people would keep a cow as a pet nor will there be enough shelter like places for them. Plus they're rather big and need a fair bit of land like a horse. Sure their are some people out there that do have a pet cows, but they won't be able to hold all the ex-meat cows. Pigs might have a higher chance for being pets do to how intelligent they are, and there is indeed already pet breeds of pigs like pot belly or pygmy pigs. But again farm pigs used for meat are rather large and most people would not want them nor will there be enough shelter like places. Depending on how far we take this only plant food idea chickens might still be good for egg production, but male chicks aren't treated the best in that practice. Plus you still have all those anti-chicken fighting laws in non-rural areas that would be a hold up or prevent you from owning pet chickens, and again not enough shelter like places. On a final note farmers will not just keep their ex-livestock animals. It's their business and way of life, and they're not running a charity.
Possibly, but I don't really see that happening though. Even if we slowly fazed it out they would still butcher the cows and not fill in the void with new cows. Plus I don't think they would offer incentives to keeping cows alive/maintain current population do to the points above. And in my opinion I think it would be rather cruel as well to offer incentives to try and keep cows from being butchered if they don't have homes.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:04:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Without use a species would go extinct. Most farm animals have limited use outside of being food. Their gene pool would shrink, then you would end up with stupid breeders making sick animals sold at stupid high prices because they are "rare". Either that or they go extinct.
Cows and many other farm animals are hella expensive to maintain and care for. This ain't your city shelter pet!
While domesticated, they are not on par with cats and dogs. Cats and dogs have evolved to become compatible with modern human lifestyles. Yours typical cows, sheep, pigs, and so on tend to be much less tolerant of such lifestyles.
Speaking of, Cows and pigs are HUGE. The largest dog breeds in the world have nothing in terms of weight, power, and aggression capable of the commercial pig and cow breeds. Don't even get started on bulls. Dwarf versions of these animals would be much more ideal to try to breed towards a domestication more like dogs and cats, but again, that takes time, money, and a motivation most people don't have. Why spend time, money, and effort on a newly bred animal, when the city shelter has free adoption day and there's a doggy just ecstatic to see you? Let's solve our current homeless pet problems before we try to introduce farm animals into the mix.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:30:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wasn't trying to be aggressive if I came across that way. Why would you get anemic? Lack of iron? Plants are a great source of iron if so.
Also I'm not sure food chains really matter anymore. Humans aren't at the top. We're below lions on the food chain for instance, we just don't let them eat us.
It's hard for me to talk about this and not sound like a preachy vegetarian or w/e. I eat out with people all the time who eat meat and I don't scream at them for murdering something. It's just that I ate meat for 24 years before learning that I didn't have to, and if I don't have to, what's the point of killing something. Cows are cute, man!
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:42:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I respect your opinion, and I'm not the one downvoting you. I've never heard of people having to eat meat, so that's interesting. I've read a lot about non-meat diets and that never came up. I do see a lot of misinformation out there about how people need to eat meat so I just assumed that's what you were talking about.
Less that they have to eat meat and more that they need certain levels of protein they can't get otherwise for various reasons - my friend, for example, has Celiac's, lactose intolerant to the point of illness, and can't have nuts for dental reasons. Once you knock out all of those options, he pretty much eats meat, some veggies (he's allergic to a pile of those too) and rice.
I have another friend who's allergic to dark green veggies, something that gives them that color. Broccoli, some lettuce, collard, etc. She probably couldn't be vegetarian easily either. Folks who eat no meat sometimes have hormonal issues (lack of testosterone, specifically), but that's probably sorted out with a balanced diet. And then there's financial reasons some folks can't be vegetarian - it's more expensive, and some people don't have the money and/or access to vegetarian foods that will fulfill the niche nutrient needs. Maybe, at some point in the future, but right now it's not possible for a lot of people.
We never did find out why vegetarian didn't work for me when I tried it - We think it was a combination of medication side effects and endometriosis/period issues. I haven't really tried again because I have other related beliefs - back to the (domesticated) apex predator thing, and that really we just need to be damn kind to the animals in the first place, and the US really just eats way way too much meat in general.
I don't really care about downvotes, I didn't even notice. But thank you for the sentiment. :)
Why? The people eating them arnt necessarily having great lives? Sure we shouldn't straight up torture them, but lets not bleed our hearts for them, when we are just going to bleed their hearts and eat them.
Plenty of animals dont even wait for their prey to die, most done care if they die or not before hand and others just kill non nonchalantly and then store it for later.
By a lot of wild living standards, our meat has decent lives. Sure we dont see it that way because we personify them pretty heavily. The majority of what we raise at least lives to adulthood. The same can not be said for most animals. Very fine line here.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 01:39:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So what is so wrong with eating a person who you didnt know, died of natural causes, and allowed you to eat their corpse after their death? I get murdering a person for the sole purpose of eating them is wrong, but why in this scenario should it still be wrong?
Zigora · 8 points · Posted at 20:46:35 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've heard everything from chicken to pork to veal.
But I think the majority of folk say pork.
Either way, protein is protein.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 21:02:36 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is it true you go crazy or is that just silly talk from a crazy person that ate too much human?
[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 21:22:21 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yup, that's true, although it's generally from eating the brain matter or bone marrow since they can carry prion diseases (think brain affecting stuff, like mad cow disease).
from brain tissue you can get a disease along with some other parts (mostly organs) but if you eat the same parts as you would on a cow or a pig then you ought to be fine.
It is 100% true... but it also used to be 100% true that 1 puff of marijuana will make you go insane so take that with a grain of salt... or alot of salt, human steaks probably need salt.
ltethe · 2 points · Posted at 02:09:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Pasole. Is an amazing Mexican pork stew.
Back in the day, it was made with human flesh, and when the Conquistadors came through and banned fun things like cannibalism, so the Aztecs substituted pork, because it was most similar to man meat.
Try Spam Lite. I read a Reader's Digest article when I was a kid that claimed a cannabalistic tribe was given various meat products to try and they declared Spam Lite to be the closest tasting to human flesh.
I'd look for a non-anecdotal source but I'm on mobile and two Scotches in.
Out of curiosity sure. In a survival situation definitely.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:15:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If I had to live through a situation that my last choice was cannibalism; I would probably choose to go on a starvation vision quest. because all hope would be lost.
Prions are the only thing you have to worry about, so long as the meat's properly prepared. They're defunct proteins that have a "healthy" version naturally produced by the host. The characteristic feature of prions is that they will deform their healthy cousins to become prions as well, ice-9 style.
Mad cow disease is a good example of a prion. It spread because some European farmers were feeding their cows small amounts of beef. Humans use the same protein as cows do, and so human health was compromised as well.
I imagine that the prion count follows an S-curve relationship. You'll be fine if you eat only a couple people (provided they aren't cannibals themselves), because while the prion count increases very slowly at first, ingesting too many of them will jump-start the process.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:46:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Prion diseases are so interesting and terrifying.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:29:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't that mainly a concern if you're consuming the brain and spinal chord? You'd probably be fine of you ate a big chunk of thigh meat.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:06:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Viruses, too. Lot more will be able to survive in a human body than what you would usually find in meat.
All ethics aside, this may be bad for chemistry reasons. Sort of like how you're not supposed to give cows feed containing cow by-product due to risk of crutchfeld-jacobs (sp?) aka mad cow disease.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:42:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I definitely would, providing it was from a healthy person and I wasn't about to be arrested for it.
I'v heard the palms of the hand are supposed to be good.
I burned my hand with a soldering iron once and I smelt great.
I'v been told by people who've dealt with burned corpses that they smell just like gammon too.
Zigora · 1 points · Posted at 18:01:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So you're saying you would try it?
BUT YOUR NAME CONTAINS "BABIES ARE TASTY"?
Guys, we got a big fat phony over here!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:30:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
As long as you dont eat the brain (I think another organ as well), nothin happens! Tastes like chicken
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:37:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well I mean... if it was legal and willingly donated, I would try it just to know its taste then probably proceed to feed sick, paranoid, and like a traitor because I ate one of my own species.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:29:40 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yea probably
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 22:00:29 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:41:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depends on the circumstances. Starved and having nothing to eat, also not killing the human myself? Yes. Otherwise risking diseases and killing human life and having a lack of respect for the dead are more than enough to drive me away.
If you flip the Horse and the rabbit i'll draw the line at the rabbit, also this is bullshit, Cat-dog-cat-dog-cat-dog-bunny-horse-chicken-cow-pig-cow-duck? what fucking order is this in? Firstof all 1 cat, 1 dog, and 1 cow: as to not skew your fucking data. Also, it makes no sense either, just because I would eat the rabbit does not mean i'm going to eat the horse and pig! To shame of whatever morons tried to create this ridiculous add.
lexfry · 3 points · Posted at 08:17:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
we dont have to draw the line, people figured out who tastes best a long time ago and if dog tasted good and pig tasted like crap we'd have hogs on the couch and dogs on the dinner plate.
Btb557 · 7 points · Posted at 03:03:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I thought this was pretty sad actually. I'd love to stop eating meat.
Take shrooms and watch planet earth, that's what did it for me lmao
Btb557 · 1 points · Posted at 10:04:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Taken plenty lol, it's just a big step. I'll eventually graduate to doing so, as of now I've already eliminated chicken from my diet. I think I'll go to the point of all meat minus fish since Kurt Cobain said it was okay.
Btb557 · 3 points · Posted at 06:51:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I dunno really, laziness mostly if you'd like the truth. Lack of diet knowledge and somewhat based off of my income. Meat is fairly cheap and a large meal goes for days, regardless of that I guess other options would too. Maybe just the enjoyment, I'll never transcend to greatness.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:58:58 on May 29, 2016 · (Permalink)
A little late, but try Meatless Monday!
It's one of the easiest ways to start making any kind of transition. Just ease into it.
When I started, I used to bite my nails until midnight and then order chicken wings because I was craving meat so bad! But don't worry, get in the routine of Meatless Monday and the cravings start to go away.
Send me a PM if you wanna know anything about anything!
The veg*n lifestyle is a hot topic over the last few days. Use it to your advantage, and make a good impression. A lot of people are curious and interested, so the opportunity is ours to show why giving up meat doesn't have to be a sacrifice when they ask.
If they believe their diet gives them the moral highground, yes they are.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 05:00:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a carnivore that put up the stupid sign asking to be made fun of.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 03:23:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its really surprising how irrational reddit gets about certain issues. I don't think ive ever seen a popular reddit post that says something intelligent (or intelligible) about the ethics of eating animals. I've also seen a fair amount of shaming anyone who attempts to bring up the topic.
I personally think the vocal majority of reddit just doesn't want to talk about it because they don't understand it. Getting in a discussion about it gives them the option of either (a.) Use vitriol and Trumpian logic to feel like they've "won" or (b.) Admit that real ethicists probably know more about it than their own gut instinct. I see a whole lot more of option (a.) mostly because it doesn't require any effort or positive qualities.
This whole thread leads me to wonder if Reddit isn't just all bots. It's literally just the same two or three posts repeated with slightly different wording ad infinitum
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 16:38:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It bothers me the way they intentionally skew the results of the line position by putting in four dogs and three cats. That's completely unfair not having three to four breeds of all the others.
If I went to a foreign country and was served cat or dog meat, I would eat it. It was never my pet, I've never had an emotional attachment to the animal. Food is food. I draw the line at cannibalism.
Well if you live in the UK and ate any food containing processed meat in the last decade chances are you've eaten a lot of horse
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:31:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I flat out don't like meat. If given the choice between meat and anything else I'll take almost anything else but horse is the one meat I've tried that I can honestly say is super tasty.
Is there a huge difference between horse and beef? I figured it would be very similar with horse being leaner. I really like lean meat, but steak aficionados insist that flavor is in the fat.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 03:37:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have an awful sense of taste and I can tell a difference. Horse is for sure more flavorful. Added bonus that you aren't at risk of mad cow disease.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:00:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would eat horse. Can't find it in the US, though.
It should be at rabbit, although I'd swap the horse with the rabbit. Horse is delicious though, but admittedly not that popular.
The first half of only cats and dogs is reductive.
In all stupid.
Should slaughtering be part of public education or is it just me? Seems like an important life experience and skill. Like "Oh yeah, by the way, you are a predator. Don't forget." Well, at least they do dissection usually.
Oh sure, but if one of them eats one of your babies, you people lose your shit. We have tons of excess humans, and lots of hungry animals. Give them a shot, I say!
One, I draw that line much more to the left, and two I find it hilarious they had to use so many different breeds of two species to skew the line so far right.
Seriously if you are going to eat dog or cat why does it matter if it's a Sheppard or a chihuahua. Chicken is chicken I can't imagine one dog tastes different than another.
For my college graduation, I got a trip to Southern France with a bonus week in Italy (because it was my dad and step mom's favorite country). I spoke French pretty well at that time, and I had taken some Italian in high school, so I could speak a little of that too. We were eating at a restaurant in Italy, and I was trying to translate the menu. One item on the menu translated as 'horse'. I was just sure of it. My parents were sure I was getting it wrong. Then the waitress came and was helping us out and said that we probably didn't want to order that because it was horse, and we probably weren't used to eating horse. I felt vindicated! So, horse is definitely food in some places. Rabbit too. I guess dogs and cats too, so really, is there even a line?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:35:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Typically, carnivorous mammals don't taste as good as herbivorous mammals. Omnivores (pigs, bears, some monkeys, etc.) also mostly follow this rule; a more plant based diet makes them taste better than a meat based diet.
Edit: I should read the rest of the comments before coming in this late.
Can anyone rearrange the animals based on their cultures custom? Where do you draw the line? Is there anyone here from Ethiopia who knows how to photoshop? Im curious as to which ones you eat
Even the sign imbalances this argument... a cow, chicken, pig, bull (?) and duck: to 3 cats, 4 dogs and a rabbit... (as an uneatan?) Dumb post, very dumb.
So I guess plant-life doesn't want to live? I thought we needed those green things to breathe.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:17:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We do, but when we eat them we put new ones in the ground so we can eat new ones again. However, mass plant farming comes with the fuckery of fertilizer runoff.
If they were more honest, they would have put the pig next to the dog. My guess is—bacon notwithstanding—a piglet is going to survive the cut before a cow or chicken.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:28:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would not eat my cat, but I would eat cat. In the same way that, if I had raised a cow from a calf, as a pet, I would not eat that cow... but that would not stop me from eating other cows. It would not even stop me from taunting my pet cow with the hamburger I was eating, because I feel confident that cows do not realize what beef is, and because that would be hilarious.
On that note, I would not eat anybody else' pet cow, or cat, either. It's actually a very simple line to draw: Animal raised as food? Eat it. Animal raised as pet? Don't eat it.
There is no line. Reason I don't eat dog or cat is cause carnivore meat is super tough and just not tasty enough. Also, I know tons of folkwho have pigs as pets
Idk... horse and dog taste really good... I like making puppy jerky it is not to good because the flesh is not muscular enough but the flavors good in broths
The lines is right in the middle... I only eat horse because its a lot less expensive than beef and in Canada horse are transform into meat only when they die naturally or it needs to be killed for some specific reason (injury, sickness, etc)
But cmon, Chicken is tasty and I think the person to chicken ratio is like 1:9 or something like that. All I'm saying is chicken heavily outnumbers people
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:41:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm so hungry I could eat the arse out of a low-flying duck? Does that somewhere on the line?
One of the most hilarious Web court cases was the "people eating tasty animals" case. In the early days of the Internet, some jokers registered Peta.org for their organization, "people eating tasty animals" so that anyone looking for "people for the ethical treatment of animals" would land on their site and be horrified.
Sorting algorithm is incorrect. Needs to be applied regionally
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:50:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Since when is duck higher on the food-o-meter than cow, pig or chicken? I mean, sure, people eat duck, but cow, pig, and chicken are probably the three most consumed animals on the planet.
Majed0 · 1 points · Posted at 06:54:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I occasionally like to remind my Vegan acquaintances that the only reason they are smart enough to be all superior is that their ancestors ate meat. Their brains just simply wouldn't have grown large enough without the protein from meat.
Why so many dogs and cats? They have only one of each of the ones we're supposed to feel pity for.
There is in all honesty though no problem with eating any animal... The hypocrisy here isn't that we're eating cow/chicken etc. It's that we won't eat dogs and cats.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:25:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well I would move it a couple of spots to the left because horses and rabbits are fucking delicious.
Never understood this Anglo-saxons thing against horse meat.
As many sketchy oriental restaurants as I've eaten at I'm sure I've eaten cat and possibly dog too. I just don't want to know it. As long as it's flavored well.
If I were legitimately to a point where I needed to kill to eat, I'd eat anything in that picture.
Hoinah · 1 points · Posted at 14:33:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This billboard makes some pretty dangerous assumptions. Without speech or complex neural interfacing, how can you be sure that they want to live? Perhaps animals are like Meeseeks, they exist to no longer exist. Survival instinct could simply be a built in destiny seeker, requiring that animal to exist until the appointed time when their chosen was in need of their sustenance?
Why do people complain about PETA's kill shelters so much? I personally think PETA is one of the stupidest organizations, but they have it right when it comes to euthanasia. One feral cat or dog is an ecological disaster. Since it isn't legal to "hunt" these overpopulated animals, that was the next best thing to do. Sure it's sad as hell and it's not the animals' faults, but there just aren't enough people and resources to care for all of them.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:54:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why no rabbit and horse? Horse meat is my favorite and I eat it at least once a week. Rabbit not really my taste but a lot of people like it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:58:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We've all had horse mixed in our mince at one point or another, we've all mostly survived so far, nay?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:16:27 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
Technically if you've eaten some burgers in the UK, you might be able to draw the line left of the horse...
Btb557 · 1 points · Posted at 10:59:03 on May 29, 2016 · (Permalink)
So what are you saying? Basically just slowly make the transition? Say take a day monthly you stop eating meat entirely? Like for an example, May you're not eating meat Monday of every week then June you're doing Monday and Tuesday?
This actually explains my take on vegetarianism pretty well. The only differences is that I see it as "All living things want to live", a line up that extends from humans to yeast, and I draw my line two animals to the left to include rabbits and horses while vegetarians draw their line somewhere way down to the right.
The line is typically drawn at organisms that have conscious experience. It's arguable that a yeast, while it may be designed to perpetuate its existence, doesn't have the conscious experience of having a desire to survive.
It really depends on what you define as a desire to survive. Protectorates and unicellular Eukaryotas do fight to survive - which would imply a desire wouldn't it? It really is only a difference in perspective if we want to truly be respectful to life.
A vegetarian also consumes living beings that fight to survive - it is just where you draw the line.
My point was not to get into semantics about what the word "desire" means, it was to point out what the reasoning behind veganism is typically based on, which is consideration of the interests of conscious beings.
Of course, and my point is that consciousness as criteria is in and of itself just another arbitrary line. There is no moral high ground in this. Just high ground on the food chain - which thankfully we have.
Of course, and my point is that consciousness as criteria is in and of itself just another arbitrary line.
That's a highly specious claim. Most moral theories take conscious experience into account in some manner or other. It certainly seems like a better criteria than simply "it's okay to eat animals because we have the power to do so."
Hmmm...yep, arbitrary definition of consciousness - which is increasingly apparent as little more than a construct of chemical signals - that is a much better line to use.
I'm sure you'll consider it just as arbitrary if you have to have major surgery some day and need to decide whether or not you want to be conscious for it.
Your analogy doesn't make much sense - a more apt or fitting one would be to imply i will look at the world differently if a giant man eating plan decides to eat me.
For what's it worth - I will probably feel on some level the same way that vegetable feels when you rip it out of the ground to eat it.
Then your side point doesn't make sense to me - we clearly see this differently. If i can show you where your consciousness becomes little more than proteins triggering other proteins that trigger ions to move across a wall - and then show you similar but less involved mechanisms in plants, would you concede? I doubt it - descartes right?
Would I concede what? That's a completely different argument. That's saying that plants have consciousness as well, not "that consciousness as criteria is in and of itself just another arbitrary line." If it does turn out that plants are conscious (a claim that does exist in the scientific community, but is based on very limited, preliminary research at this point) that would certainly pose a problem for vegans who believe they aren't eating conscious things, but that wouldn't mean that the line was chosen arbitrarily, just incorrectly.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:56:43 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit and horse are delicious. That line isn't far enough.
At least we draw a line. Before humans, life on earth was one giant, unadulterated killfest. Mammals eating reptiles, reptiles eating mammals, mammals eating fish, fish eating other fish... just animals endlessly eating other animals for 99.9999% of life's existence.
This shit really isn't a joke. You might as well put human beings on that billboard. What would be the difference? Animals suffer just like us and eating meat isn't something humans need to do to survive. There are vegan bodybuilders, power lifters, athletes, doctors, scientists, and philosophers. It won't make you weak. It won't deprive you of any vitamins if planned for appropriately. It won't take anything away from you. It is a conscious choice we continually make when we turn a blind eye to this inhumanity.
Vawnn · 2 points · Posted at 13:15:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Life consumes life. That's the way the world works. There are actually studies showing plants have reactions to stimulus and communicate with one another as well. In 30 or 40 years, when we understand plants better, your moral philosophy will limit you to eating nothing other than your own body hair.
The problem with this theory is that although plants are living they do not have a central nervous system and cannot feel pain and are not conscious. It's absurd to suggest plants have evolved to do so when they have not developed a survival instinct. For example if you hurt an animal it will cry out and run away. If you hurt a plant it does nothing. These are completely different. In addition, you can harvest parts of a plant with out "killing" it. If you are suddenly so #PlantLivesMatter think about this: The plant food grown specifically for animal agricultural far out weighs the amount of food needed to feed humans. Therefore, causing the least amount of harm would still be adopting a plant based diet (e.g. less plants would have to die) also fuck you for even suggesting such a retarded theory and wasting my time. You wouldn't feel the same way as if you decapitated your dog or cat as you would feel cutting your grass.
An argument can be made to put rabbit on the other side of that line. I mean, come on, who doesn't like a brace of coneys with their taters, precious?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:00:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh people will vehemently speak out about eating animals but then have no problem killing and devouring plants. Life is life, their line is just drawn at things that are further down the food chain.
Even if you became an oxygenarian for the rest of your (now short) life, your body will still murder bacterial life inside your body.
Honestly I don't think there is a line. The difference between the animals I'll eat and the ones I won't is the individual animal, not species. They're all meat. Maybe I'm just more pragmatic than most on this issue.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 00:42:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I feel like the people who insist animals like cows, pigs, ducks, and chickens are pets, have never had them before.
I've had ducks, geese, and chickens. They are definitely not pets. Fun to have around, at times, yes, just like your crazy neighbor. Roosters and geese are the most bipolar assholes on the planet. Tasty bipolar assholes. Chickens and ducks tend to be more mellow, but still aren't very trainable, and are very very stupid. Wonderful tasty eggs though.
Pigs fall in that perfect half pet half food gray area. They are trainable enough that they can make a very good pet to an experienced pet owner. However, they aren't as domesticated as cats and dogs, so a large breed is very dangerous. Like working dog breeds, pigs are not a typical ideal pet for someone getting their first or second animal.
Rabbits as pets are dependent on if they're bred for pet or bred for food (the latter being known as farmed or meat rabbits). Rabbits specifically bred as pets are of course not going to have the same meat and fat quality as meat-rabbits. They also grow too slow or require a lot more care than is feasible for a farm. Meat-rabbits tend to be a lot like chickens actually. They grow fast and fat, a lot of meat, and have high reproductive rates. They also have very short hair, normal sized legs, and non-floppy ears - all necessary to allow for minimal care, just like commercial farm chickens don't have the fancier plumage of heritage breeds and exhibition fowl. And just like commercial farm chicken, temperament wise, meat-rabbits are not ideal pets. Very not-docile and more willing to bite.
I'm not patient with veganism or "save all the animals!" types. To me, those people don't have a fucking clue about animals, their characteristics, or the required care. They're like the people who have romantic ideas of giving up everything and sailing around the world - without the experience necessary to operate a sailboat and keep yourself from sinking or getting lost! There's a HUGE difference between the fantasy of Babe and Charlotte's Web, and the reality of farm animals.
I get that a lot of people are clueless about livestock or how to raise animals but that doesn't mean there is no merit to going vegetarian or vegan. I firmly believe the environmental benefits of going vegan are significant and if more people did it we would be better off in a lot of ways. That being said, I'm not vegan nor do I ever see myself giving up meat. It is something worth considering if you have the fortitude to do so, and you shouldn't write it off just because some vegans are a little preachy.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 01:29:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Uh huh. I'll go vegetarian/vegan when the sun consumes the Earth. I don't hate myself to give up, milk, cheese, eggs, bacon, honey, beef, tendon, shellfish, BBQ, pulled pork, roasted chicken, turkey, turkey gravy, meat loaf, oxtail, balut, rabbit, chicken wings, and all the other wonderfully tasty cuisines from the plethora of cultures we have on this planet.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:27:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think you're misunderstanding the reasons behind veganism/vegetarianism, and also the reason behind this billboard.
I'm not patient with veganism or "save all the animals!" types. To me, those people don't have a fucking clue about animals, their characteristics, or the required care.
Vegans/vegetarians don't care about which animals require what amount of care or which make good pets. They just don't want them killed or harmed.
The billboard isn't saying farm animals make good pets. It's asserting that the reason we don't eat certain animals is more cultural than logical. THAT'S what we should be arguing.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:33:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The idea that we can all just stop eating meat is as logical as vaccines causing autism. It's also very disrespectful of the many many cultures around the world. Food is a very important part of culture and religion, you can't just expect people to give that up.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 01:54:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lots of terrible things are "important part[s] of culture and religion". Female genital mutilation, animal or human sacrifice, self-flagellation, suicide bombing etc. So the fact that something is culturally or religiously important doesn't make OK to do.
As far as the making everyone be vegetarian: it could happen given a long enough time. Same with any other idea like evolution or religions or politics. The goal of anyone with an agenda is to spread it to everyone. So there's no reason to dislike people trying to spread their agendas. Unless they try to force the issue, of course.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:01:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Suicide bombing and genital mutilation is not part of normal culture - those are perversions of culture purported by religious extremists and terrorists. You're just making racist shit up to justify veganism.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:46:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Now you're misrepresenting what I'm saying. I listed off those things and followed it with "so the fact that something is religiously or culturally important doesn't make it OK to do". I didn't follow it with "so veganism is good". I'm not even a fucking vegan.
What I'm trying (and failing) to say is that vegans/vegetarians think that the animals we eat are a cultural choice, and that cultural choices are not necessarily good choices (for example, the other two example in my list that you didn't mention) Do you take issue with any of that? We can argue about FGM and suicide bombing another time.
Giving it up isn't the problem. Not giving a rat's ass about its treatment while it's alive is the problem. If everyone respected the animals they raise for food, and gave them some form of a good life (no matter how small) things would be okay.
But when chickens are having their legs broken, pigs are having their testicles burned off, and cats are being skinned alive and thrown around, some of us are going to have a problem with that. The fact that everyone doesn't is a whole new problem.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:05:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You need to look up the definition of strawman argument, seriously. Because that's what you're doing. I have no interest in arguing with someone who doesn't stay on topic.
I wasn't intending to be off topic. I was just explaining how although expecting the world to stop eating meat is ridiculous given peoples cultures and preferences (like you said), it wouldn't a problem if the animals were raised humanely to being with.
Well I guess since some animals are less domesticated, harder to train, or unintelligent, we should just kill and eat them inhumanely. They don't deserve a life because they aren't easily domesticated.
Edit: Feel like I should clarify that I'm not vegan or vegetarian. Just wanted to point out how silly that logic is.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:01:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You fail at strawman arguments, since it's pretty obvious I never said any of that.
I'll correct myself. You never directly said anything about those animals being used for meat, but that doesn't make your argument any less bullshit. No one said these animals should be pets like cats and dogs. The fact that they aren't domesticated or are hard to maintain doesn't make them any less entitled to a good life.
You either think otherwise or you fabricated this thought that people think cows are pets and wanted to disprove that. No one said anything about a cow using the litter box.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:06:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That line seems pretty well placed. Exept for the rabbit.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:59:45 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Good line placement. Maybe bypass the horse and add some rabbit ;)
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:01:51 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Prove to me my cat wants to live and simply isn't living!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:30:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Prove to me that you want to live and aren't just a flesh automaton following conditioned scripts.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:15:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I want to live. There. It's an I think therefore I am situation. I cannot empirically prove my cat does not desire to live, or more important has an awareness of its own consciousness like we do, but I can empirically prove that humans are distinctly different just in our ability to write, and ponder existence. Meanwhile my cat is simply living. Full of emotions, full of desire for companionship and indulgence, but never has left behind something to empirically show questioning it's own existence and purpose.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:04:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That you say I want to live doesn't prove anything. You can't objectively prove to anyone that you have a subjective experience. For all I know (and you), everyone besides me (you) doesn't have a subjective experience, and is just a biological machine that may have evolved to say things that make it appear otherwise.
Human beings just attribute a consciousness and subjective experience similar to their own to others that resemble them enough.
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 01:27:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
People kill animals and eat meat because we are generally gross and terrible by nature. A vegetarian can't escape man's basic nature no matter what they do.
"...generally..." So, you're saying there are exceptions! :)
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 20:44:09 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 22:35:54 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Damn, you're the coolest of the cool. Thanks for the story.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 22:50:16 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Way to be a dick for no reason. I'm sure that will get you far in life.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:52:19 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
It already did actually, but my reason was you're bragging about not being empathetic. I thought that was worthy of derision.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 22:54:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not empathetic towards creatures that don't feel empathy. Perhaps their big, sad eyes pluck your heartstrings, but perhaps you are an idiot.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:13:28 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Man, you aren't funny or clever either. I'm sorry. You drew a shitty hand.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 23:15:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lol, I wasn't trying to be funny or clever. Life isn't a big joke to me like it is for hippie burnout losers like you. Sorry the band isn't working out but find a better coping mechanism.
[deleted] · -7 points · Posted at 20:49:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's an anthropomorphism. There is no "higher" on the food chain, and diverse diet is just one of the quirks of being an intelligent species. Several apex predators have specialized diets.
Evolution doesn't dictate anything. It's just a process of adaptation to an available ecological niche.
"It will be a gradually changing spectrum..." "but you put cats and dogs in there multiple times in different spots" "fuck you, you just don't love animals"
That is where my line would be drawn too. If I was literally starving though, anything that doesn't walk on two legs normally will be on the menu. Amputees and wheelchair people are exempt.
Yeah but you don't need to boil a cat or dog alive to eat it. That is not a necessary part of eating the animal. It makes me uncomfortable that people needlessly torture the animal in the process of getting its meat, but I have no problem with them eating the animal.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:13:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That makes me uncomfortable, but it doesn't make me think there's something wrong with eating dogs or cats, it makes me think there's something wrong with Chinese people.
This thread is full of idiots, just look at one of your replies. It makes that person more uncomfortable that you may be telling a lie than the actual act of boiling a sentient being alive. Your statement is true not only of China but other Asian countries. These people all turn a blind eye to animal abuse, pretty pathetic. Animal rights groups are more hated than factory farms, wrap your head around that
Bebinn · -3 points · Posted at 20:45:35 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just switch the rabbit and the horse put the line between them and we are done.
when it comes to meat I eat anything that mostly eats vegetables, predators is where I draw the line for land critters, anything in the water is fair game. also there is the food that my food eats that tends to be quite tasty if prepared correctly.
Depends. How hungry am I, and how hard is food going to be to find in the near future? Because that line moves further left the hungrier and poorer I get.
Phocas · -1 points · Posted at 22:03:28 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:48:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Switch around the rabbit and horse and then start there. I would eat horse in a pinch but typically more useful alive. Rabbits are just a plentiful source of good protein.
I generally would not eat an animal that would upset most people in my community, and I would not eat someone's pet animal except under dire circumstances.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:31:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Like I said on Facebook: depends on what country I'm in and how hungry I am.
noneof · 0 points · Posted at 01:32:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depends if I'm starving to death or not. If the only thing to eat is a rat then I'll eat a rat. If your hungry enough you'll eat worms or grubs. Bottom line is if you have a choice you'll choose your favorite. If not then eat what is available or starve.
Draw the line through the middle of all of them. If a food animal is treated humanely during it's life, I have no issues with any of them being consumed.
Vextin · 0 points · Posted at 01:34:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why are ducks considered to be food more than chickens or cows or pigs or horses? I suppose duck is a very common food some places, but cow is a common food MORE places.
Tabnam · 0 points · Posted at 01:36:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nice way of cutting off the caption and stealing the joke OP.
I see no line i see both food and pet, just because our culture does not eat animals that we deem as "pet animals" that doesnt really make it wrong. After all we are animals just like them, yes more sentient but still animals
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:24:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is fucking delicious. Easily my favorite meat. I also love going to the track and horseback riding is super fun. I do it whenever I can. Horses are just all around great at everything.
Except living outdoors isn't really an option for humans unless you are going feral. Living outdoors also doesn't prevent the suffering and death of animals. You might as well say you could live on Mars with proper planning.
I fucking hate billboards like this. What the hell kind of point are they trying to prove? I have pet rabbits but I will still eat rabbit. I know plenty of people who keep chickens more as pets and they still eat chicken. These people really need to get a fucking life and spend that money on something more constructive.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 01:16:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Either this is trying to say we should eat all animals, or entirely stop eating animals.
Entirely stopping would probably kill half the population on earth.
ki299 · -1 points · Posted at 01:54:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Um.. if i am starving and there is only an animal that is typically a house pet.. i am going to eat it.. sorry but that cat or dog... it comes down to survival of the fittest.
typing · -1 points · Posted at 01:58:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's simple, animals that eat meat we keep as pets, animals that eat veggies we eat. :)
Lol, I knew it would be misconstrued. Take me for instance, I've never had to eat left of the line, but some folks do. I would say I've got it pretty easy. So I was just wondering how well a sign like that would do in China, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Switzerland, Cameroon, Ghana or Liberia, that's all. I probably could have said it better the first time but ¯\(ツ)/¯
Interesting, this has caused me to read and find that I might not be the lucky one after all because cat and dog meat can be delicious. The privilege is on the other foot it seems...
Nayowi · -2 points · Posted at 00:36:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I am happy to see that many of us know how delicious rabbits and horses are!!
someone needs to stop PETA. there basically saying that we shouldnt eat things that humans have been eating for hundreds of years. why the fuck is a bigger species speaking for a species that will kill you if you hurt it a little. i dont condone torturing animals but i do condone eating what ever you want and wearing what you want, its not a organizations job to create shitty shock campaigns and get a couple celebs to pose nude. they should be focusing in animal abuse and the fact that some people torture their animals, not telling the populus that eating animals is wrong
New-ish to Reddit so not sure where to park this comment. I want to address HORSE MEAT
... first, though ...
I have been vegetarian and now vegan for many years. There will be something to eat at basically any restaurant. At home it is so easy. I am not one of those mythical vegans who preach and rant and shame. If a friend asks about my choice, happy to share. Otherwise I leave it alone.
As a teen I thought vegans were weird, angry hippies with a superiority complex. To that I now say the flip is mostly true ~ most vegans think we are destroying the planet with factory farming (which causes more methane & emissions than traffic does in the US). I don't want to kill a living being in order for me to survive because it's not necessary. Cowspiracy is a great film on this topic and there's no gore. Earthlings will make you a vegetarian or at the very least consider it. Many say they can't bear to watch it and they just wanna keep eating their fast food burgers.
The taste I thought I loved in steak, ribs and burgers etc is sauce & seasoning.
I do believe ~ world wide ~ the suffering we inflict on animals is sickening and despicable. There really is no 'humane slaughter'. Animals raised "organically" are typically butchered at the same facility as non-organic.
I live in Vancouver, Canada and there are MANY superb athletes who are vegan or at least vegetarian. It is a real hot spot for health, sports, wellness ... so I live in a great city with tons of choices for food. It is a myth that you need to eat meat to be well-muscled. I am female and most people think I am 10 years younger than I am. I am fit, fast, and happy. My blood pressure and cholesterol and all that jazz are on point. But seriously, to each their own. I grew up in a small farming town and never thought I would give up steak and ribs. One day I was eating a steak and it just tasted wrong. Realized I was eating muscle and just about puked. Random & unplanned diversion to not eating meat anymore.
Okay, onto horse slaughter / meat. The US does not currently slaughter horses. Over 70,000 are slaughtered in Canadian facilities every year. Most come over the border from the US. The same amount go to Mexico from the US where they are killed with a knife to the spinal cord. It is not a quick death. I have seen it as I work in animal rescue.
Canadian horse processing is also barbaric. I will just say, Google it instead of me rambling.
You still want to eat horse meat? Okay. Almost every horse has Bute in its system. Think of it as human aspirin. It is a proven carcinogen to humans.
Some restaurants and countries will lie and say the meat is organic etc ~ bullsh*t. Forms are almost always falsified by the shipper / slaughter plant. Again, I have witnessed this and it's the norm.
So, that's my bit. Sorry for going on but please put some thought into animal welfare. Who are we to decide we are superior and must pillage every animal? Pigs are typically smarter than dogs. Think differently. Try a few meatless meals ~ there are great recipes online. With the hundreds of thousands of acres we use to raise cattle and other livestock, crops could be grown to feed more 3rd world citizens as well as N. America.
Have a great night, everyone & thanks to any who read this ;) Please don't be rude if you don't agree with me. I am not deliberately rude to others. Just scroll by if you don't like me :)
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tdelet · 1268 points · Posted at 21:03:28 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why are we more likely to eat a golden retriever than a basset hound? How did the gray cat end up all the way on the left?
Shouldn't there really only be one dog and one cat? And then maybe a series of chimps, monkeys and apes?
[deleted] · 659 points · Posted at 01:37:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm wondering why there aren't any fish on there. The people that made this sign are fucking racist.
lasercat13 · 410 points · Posted at 02:08:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm wondering why the rabbit isn't further to the right. I've had rabbit. It's tasty!
biglebowski55 · 138 points · Posted at 02:42:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's right after horse, and lots of people eat horse.
martphon · 60 points · Posted at 03:22:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm so hungry I could eat a horse.
timotab · 143 points · Posted at 04:15:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ever have that moment when you're halfway through eating a horse and think to yourself "Huh, I guess I wasn't as hungry as I thought I was"?
jimschubert · 33 points · Posted at 04:35:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Every day.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 06:52:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
OH MY GOD! YOU EAT HALF OF A HORSE EVERY DAY?
That's just plain wasteful. You should invest in a fridge, you'd make it back pretty quick on the cost of a horse every other day.
jimschubert · 2 points · Posted at 10:42:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was just horsin' around.
funkysmellbear · 2 points · Posted at 05:32:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thanks dad
martphon · 1 points · Posted at 01:43:57 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah. Next time make it a pony.
edwurtle · 1 points · Posted at 05:43:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bob sacremento agrees.
Darth_Paratrooper · 2 points · Posted at 03:48:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It is known.
ClockworkAeroplane · 2 points · Posted at 11:28:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had a horse steak in the Netherlands that was mind-blowing, and here in Japan it's served raw as sashimi at fancy banquets (and is one of my favorites).
lersday · 2 points · Posted at 13:16:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lots of people eat dog too
WizardOfIF · 1 points · Posted at 03:27:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wild horse populations are exploding unchecked across much of the west and herds could readily be culled to reduce the strain the large herds have on other animals in these areas. A lot of hungry people could be fed from those animals if there wasn't such a stigma against consuming horse meat.
ElderlyPeanut · 1 points · Posted at 05:36:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well, can anyone tell me why it tastes like? I'll have a go at it.
shanknitrate · 1 points · Posted at 10:10:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It tastes a lot like beef. But is not as tender (depending on the standard of beef you are used to, of course).
ledivin · 1 points · Posted at 04:59:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would argue that more people eat rabbit than horse, but I'm making it up. Pretty sure I'm right, though...
Probably...
Ta2whitey · 1 points · Posted at 05:22:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The Native Americans did.
Yield85 · 1 points · Posted at 05:32:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's a great receipe in a book on Waterloo. Fry it in axle grease and season with French gunpowder.
pyrrhios · 1 points · Posted at 05:43:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Needs guinea pig.
Tillinn · 1 points · Posted at 19:30:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horses are delicius!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:17:10 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
In Korea, they eat dog.
PMme10dolarSteamCard · 0 points · Posted at 05:56:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ya salami has horse in it
[deleted] · 36 points · Posted at 02:16:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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The_Funki_Tatoes · 2 points · Posted at 04:56:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
"You ruins it!"
The__Artificer · 2 points · Posted at 02:22:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit pot pies are the shit man!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ya know ive never tried em, got a good recipe?
The__Artificer · 9 points · Posted at 02:44:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nothing exact but I'll give you what I have. I used a store bought pie crust because it's too much hassle to make that shit yourself. Sliced carrots, diced potatoes (quarter inch cube or so), sliced onions and frozen peas (I used frozen because that's what I had. The other veggies were grown in my garden.) I usually throw the rabbits in the slow cooker and season them with salt, pepper, and garlic powder. Let them cook on low for 4-5 hours or until done. When they are you pick the meat off the bones and mix it in with the veggies. Mix in a nice dark gravy and put in the pies (we used largish ramekins). Put the top crust on and throw those babies in the oven at 375 or so until golden brown and the gravy is bubbling.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 03:30:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I just realized how rude i was not sharing my Stew Recipe when you provided your pot pie one!
Take a whole rabbit and rub it with salt and pepper and place it in a slow cooker, Place sliced onions, apples and jalapenos peppers over it. Add two cups of vegetable broth to make sure it stays moist and cook, i usually put it on the lowest setting for 6-8 hours until it shreds off the bone.
After wards pull the rabbit and shred all its meat, i usually save a cup of broth for the stew, but thats completely optional.
Make a typical stew, Vegetable broth, veggies, potatoes/barley, Diced onion, carrot, celery, whatever you preference is. Add the rabbit to the stew and then slow cook it again until all other ingredients are cooked soft enough for your liking. I usually go with a basil, parsley, oregano, Garlic and a basil leaf for seasoning
Bam done! Takes a little while but the sweet and spicy Rabbit really makes it a winner.
The__Artificer · 1 points · Posted at 04:26:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nice. Now I gotta try this!
pukesonyourshoes · 1 points · Posted at 06:30:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit pie is fucking delicious.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:59:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ill have to give it a try, seems simple enough! Thanks!
The__Artificer · 0 points · Posted at 03:01:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sure thing
MatrimRivers · 0 points · Posted at 02:38:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Seriously, I'd love that recipe too
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 03:39:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
He replied!, i also dropped my Rabbit Stew recipe for anyone interested as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/4kvl4p/about_right_there/d3in8ei
Amara313 · 1 points · Posted at 04:37:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
How do you tell whether the rabbit was mean or nice? That seems awfully judgmental of something you're going to eat. On a side note, I need to try a rabbit stew sometime. I'll have to ask the cook about the rabbit's temperament before I eat it.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:45:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Meat Rabbits are always mean. I like to think me covering them in jalapenos and onion as i slow cook them adds to this.
PD711 · 1 points · Posted at 04:59:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse eater!
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 05:04:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love horses, always have a place in my home. Right next to the mashed potatoes.
PD711 · 2 points · Posted at 05:43:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would have to say neigh to that.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:14:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
How do you keep it tender? Every time I cook rabbit it becomes very stringy, even when I slow cook it for 9 hours.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:16:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
low heat seems to help, depends on your crock pot as well. But overcooking it will make it very stringy. Salt and acids help soften meat.
Athilda · 1 points · Posted at 08:28:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Recipe, please!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 09:21:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Posted it a couple comments down!
Athilda · 1 points · Posted at 12:23:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You're awesome! Thank you.
silkysmooth99 · 3 points · Posted at 03:39:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Also a mating pair of rabbits will produce 100 lbs of meat in a year through their young. So efficient!
unomar · 1 points · Posted at 02:49:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sounds like you've never had Pferdewurst.
emerson7x · 0 points · Posted at 03:14:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Swiss bundefleisch! ...it's delicious!
burnswhenipoo · 1 points · Posted at 03:29:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5bGvv2VUP_8&autoplay=1
WuTangGraham · 1 points · Posted at 03:41:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah but can be a pain in the ass to prepare. I think that knocked it a few pegs on the "better meals than pets" scale
Takbeir · 1 points · Posted at 10:50:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Out of an elephant and a donkey/mule, which is more right? I don't get U.S. politics
bayou_billy · 1 points · Posted at 11:30:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would definitely eat a rabbit before a horse.
B0NESAWisRRREADY · 0 points · Posted at 02:38:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
He needs to get his tasty ass back on the right side of the line.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:40:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes! Nothing wrong with a coney stew!
Tahl_eN · 0 points · Posted at 03:19:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've had horse. It can also be tasty!
yuumai · 7 points · Posted at 02:15:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Specieist?
LikeWolvesDo · 2 points · Posted at 03:31:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Really it would be classist, but like taxonomic class not social class. so it gets a bit confusing.
RipeningBanana · 4 points · Posted at 04:24:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's no such thing as a fish.
It's also a great podcast.
BlasphemousArchetype · 2 points · Posted at 02:34:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You can eat fish and still be vegetarian. Shows how much they care about fish.
drharris · 2 points · Posted at 15:05:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had an acquaintance once who swore he was a vegetarian. Ate fish almost every day. Justified it by cold blooded things not being animals or some other ignorance.
BlasphemousArchetype · 1 points · Posted at 16:54:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think it's a specific sect of vegetarians. They told me it was something like fish don't feel pain or something. I don't think they really know.
Saskyle · 1 points · Posted at 01:52:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's okay to eat fish
thinkfast1982 · 1 points · Posted at 01:54:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They don't have any feelings
Darth-Stalin · 1 points · Posted at 03:12:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's okay to eat fish cause they don't have any feelings.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:16:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's funny you say that, because I want to mention that the look a fish gives you and the look a cow gives you before they die are both delicious.
snoozieboi · 1 points · Posted at 03:45:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fucking Picists!
RadioactiveCarrot · 1 points · Posted at 03:57:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fish doesn't want to live.
ryjohn · 1 points · Posted at 03:57:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Specieists*
Vettro88 · 1 points · Posted at 04:20:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well someone (to avoid uproar I won't point fingers) at some point very strategically chose to make fish not a meat so they obviously don't count.
soggydoggyjake · 1 points · Posted at 04:23:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They aren't animals, duh
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:44:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
MY SAFE SPACE IS TRIGGERED
1pt21jiggawatts · 1 points · Posted at 04:58:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Racist?
shniken · 1 points · Posted at 07:38:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not one southern hemisphere animal. I'll eat kangaroos, kiwis and llamas. Fucking hemispherists.
Jkal91 · 1 points · Posted at 10:34:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fishes are not cute.
PM_ME_BIGGER_BOOBS · 1 points · Posted at 13:49:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Right fish vs dolphin. And while we're at it throw that rabbit over the line too.
them1lfman · 1 points · Posted at 17:19:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think you mean specist, but I concur. Riot! Rabble Rabble Rabble!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:44:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Throw a turtle in there
adelie42 · 1 points · Posted at 23:47:02 on September 4, 2016 · (Permalink)
And plain stupid. Or made by someone that didn't agree. The fact that they had to repeat cat and dog so many times to make their point says a lot about the artists position.
The order is also telling. Actually vary the species, mix them up, then ask people to draw the line would have made a statement versus easily made into a joke.
There was a great post not too long ago about a family that had pigs for pets; they were full fledged family members right up until they became food. The post had many cuddling pictures, adventures taking them for walks and such, followed by a long list of all the pork products they produced wasting nothing (iirc).
berylmonkeys1 · 1 points · Posted at 02:12:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or iguanas, Frogs, Turtles & Snakes.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:04:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pheasants, ducks, deer, elk... nah man. Only puppies, kittens, cows and chickens. This has to be the work of some ignorant big city hipster.
WizardOfIF · 1 points · Posted at 03:28:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Iguana is a little too chewy for my taste. The flavor is fine but it is very tough meat.
berylmonkeys1 · 1 points · Posted at 19:31:46 on June 7, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had iguana when I was on a vacation when I young. I don't remember much about it. I remember the goats milk icecream more.
[deleted] · 234 points · Posted at 01:43:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cuz golden retrievers look like fried chicken.
http://imgur.com/h4GoT5r
StreetDreams56 · 54 points · Posted at 02:08:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think those are golden doodle chicks.
atbobick · 53 points · Posted at 02:19:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fried puppers
Tortugas12 · 6 points · Posted at 02:31:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Good fry, pupper
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:21:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hush, puppy.
Stackhouse_ · 3 points · Posted at 03:00:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mini doggos
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 02:20:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hush puppies?
im_so_money · 1 points · Posted at 09:59:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hush puppies
Fancy_Pens · 1 points · Posted at 02:55:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What's a pupper?
atbobick · 1 points · Posted at 10:01:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
A mini doggo
nolanator · 1 points · Posted at 02:20:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not doing that again
Seakawn · 1 points · Posted at 02:50:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, I think. Roommates have a golden retriever / doodle mix that looks exactly like all of them.
jerimiahhalls · 1 points · Posted at 04:04:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't it Groodle? Golden Doodle sounds like a pornography award.
Seakawn · 1 points · Posted at 02:50:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Are its hind legs stuck in the grate, at the bottom left? Or do you think that dog just pulls them straight out without getting the foot stuck?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 13:44:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depends on if you want your fried chicken to escape. :)
zdiggler · 1 points · Posted at 03:21:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
the chicken joint open right now?
HaakenforHawks · 125 points · Posted at 23:23:18 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Gray cats are especially adorable, this is a proven fact.
Source: I like gray cats.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:48:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well if that's the source then it might as well be law.
way2manycats · 5 points · Posted at 23:58:29 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Do grey tabby cats count?
Idothatswimmingthing · 5 points · Posted at 00:14:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Of course
sammybeta · 1 points · Posted at 01:47:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh, how you cooked them though?
JaredLetoApproves · 4 points · Posted at 02:47:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Have a grey cat, can confirm.
Critterkhan · 1 points · Posted at 05:54:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Had a gray cat, can confirm... they're tasty!
rdyoung · 3 points · Posted at 01:30:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Are they also tasty?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:33:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Of course!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:50:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Real reason: gray cat will kill you before you kill it
crazy-carebear · 0 points · Posted at 01:37:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They are soo tastey though...
abagofdicks · 0 points · Posted at 01:48:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So adorable
trajon · 0 points · Posted at 02:05:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think not baby puppy.
vne2000 · 35 points · Posted at 01:38:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They filled the left space with pets to make it look more disproportionate, PETA loves their bullshit imagery.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 07:01:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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zw1ck · 0 points · Posted at 14:38:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I can just imagine the horrified looks of the protesters as the meat processing employees cat called the blood covered naked women.
It's hilarious.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:49:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The rabbit should be next to the chicken
Neutronova · 2 points · Posted at 01:48:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
thank you!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:25:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why is the grey cat HUGE compared to the other cats is what I'm wondering.
adl17 · 1 points · Posted at 05:05:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's not a cat!! That's a puma!
FubarOne · 1 points · Posted at 12:37:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Damnit Griff, I thought I told you to stop making up animals!
maxout2142 · 2 points · Posted at 04:09:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or how the rabbit is before the horse. People regularly eat hunted rabbit.
soggydoggyjake · 2 points · Posted at 04:23:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why is the duck all the way right? I know some cultures eat a lot of duck but for the ad to be in English the cow or chicken would have been more relevant.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:30:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why not eat all of them?
TravisPM · 2 points · Posted at 05:39:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Especially since the gray cat looks delicious.
manawesome326 · 2 points · Posted at 06:02:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And why is the duck on the far right? I'd put him a few spots over to the left.
IdontbelieveAny · 2 points · Posted at 08:46:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Seriously! There's 3 or 4 each of cat and dogs! Also Duck is fucking delicious
Thrannn · 2 points · Posted at 11:39:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
the cat payed the designer to but it to the very left.. his name is also in the panama papers
Eleglas · 2 points · Posted at 13:26:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because then they'd get people saying like "Fuck it, hell yeah I'd eat a chimp!"
chriscrowder · 2 points · Posted at 13:46:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
These people throw logic out the window. We have canines, we were meant to eat meat.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 13:53:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Peta just can't afford a decent marketing team.
benskinic · 2 points · Posted at 17:58:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/8f2P5yJFQKw Relevant.
tdelet · 1 points · Posted at 21:31:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Troy is always relevant
jajaclitsndicks · 2 points · Posted at 18:08:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dolphins, octopus, cuttlefish, should also be present if we are changing to an intelligence spectrum.
Sibraxlis · 1 points · Posted at 01:35:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They look grosser maybe?
Magicteapotbeliever · 1 points · Posted at 01:53:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh man I saw a monkey roasting on a spit on tv. I'll never be able to un-see that
SurrealSuppository · 1 points · Posted at 01:53:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd rather eat a cat than a dog.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:15:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Came here to make this comment. Best I can come up with? Because fuck golden retrievers that's why
PolishRobinHood · 1 points · Posted at 16:02:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But golden retrievers are amazing
h34dyr0kz · 1 points · Posted at 03:42:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
that gray cat is massive.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:56:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe the other cats are assholes.
Bladelink · 1 points · Posted at 04:08:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I also don't see any people.
Rough_Cut · 1 points · Posted at 05:11:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why do the cats and dogs alternate? Shouldn't they be generally grouped together?
And I know people eat duck, but is a duck really 'more food' than a cow?
FubarOne · 1 points · Posted at 12:38:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not more food, it's more "foodie" than a cow
babygxxo · 1 points · Posted at 05:47:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
but not too many people have chimps, monkeys and apes as pets !
iSimplicity · 1 points · Posted at 00:42:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nureongi
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:42:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had some Kegogi in Korea. It was alright, Kinda like lamb.
LordZeya · 1 points · Posted at 01:35:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why is there a duck at the far end? I mean, we definitely eat them, but I feel like it should be touching the line more than anywhere else.
Flandersmcj · 1 points · Posted at 02:06:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Grey cats: Nature's on the go snacks.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:13:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This confused me as well. The list is 2/7ths canine and 3/14ths feline. You can also play musical instruments containing parts of half the list.
OwenMerlock · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The gray cat will eat you first, bitch.
Warpedme · 0 points · Posted at 02:18:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cat should also be after dog. I'd eat a cat long before I'd eat a dog.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:41:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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chupanibre25 · 0 points · Posted at 03:13:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bushmeat, in both South America and Afric, is a problem for conservation of endangered primates. Part of the reason some of the conservation efforts in those areas also focus on education and generating jobs. Hard to tell someone not to eat something and expect them to starve instead
coachbradb · 1293 points · Posted at 19:46:40 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I lived in China for 6 years. There is no line.
tastyscavenger · 446 points · Posted at 02:50:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I went to a fancy restaurant in Hangzhou and it was like they took a big comb and scrapped the sea floor clean and on their way back to the restaurant they proceeded to club anything with a pulse and toss it in with the rest. If some one pulled out a piece of Coral and proceeded to gnaw at it I wouldn't be surprised in the least.
TLDR: The Chinese don't eat animals, they eat ecosystems.
[deleted] · 120 points · Posted at 04:32:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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digitalhate · 56 points · Posted at 05:11:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But on point. And that which isn't considered a delicacy, is believed to be an aphrodisiac.
relayrider · 6 points · Posted at 17:29:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yep, just grind it up and put it in a gelcap
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 15:38:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If it's got four legs and isn't a chair, the Chinese will eat it. I made the mistake of letting a friend choose a "unique dining experience" in Guangzhou. One resto... Over 60 species. I shit you not!
Jorask · 3 points · Posted at 09:24:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
God damn you I actually laughed loudly at my workplace and now I'm in trouble
FubarOne · 3 points · Posted at 12:39:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Gotta feed a billion and a half people somehow
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 14:22:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just feed half the population to the other half. Kill two birds with one stone.
Koalapottamus · 4 points · Posted at 15:32:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Good old soylent green
C-hound · 3 points · Posted at 14:49:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That tldr. I laughed really loud and obnoxiously in public. Thank you
Comrade_Nugget · 3 points · Posted at 15:40:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Have you read about the china sea disputes? China has basically said the ocean south of china is all theirs. The link below shows what china is claiming as their ocean territory. They have started making manmade islands and are basically just dredging the ocean and taking everything they pull up.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea
darkmeatchicken · 3 points · Posted at 15:41:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There is a popular seafood chain literally called: 海底捞 (Hǎidǐlāo) which literally means: sea floor scrape http://www.haidilao.com/
Its delicious. Oh - and they dance when they make your noodles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BQKfJstGYQ
Critterkhan · 2 points · Posted at 05:56:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Username checks out.
ericl666 · 2 points · Posted at 13:06:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I describe it as 'dinner with the Beverly hillbillies'.
derpado514 · 1 points · Posted at 13:13:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Soylent green can't come soon enough...
ska_robot · 109 points · Posted at 23:23:16 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Anything is food if you're hungry enough.
[deleted] · 20 points · Posted at 01:35:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why do you think manatees have spent so much time on the endangered species list? They don't call them sea cows for no reason.
IronBallsMiginty · 9 points · Posted at 04:39:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Haul me in a dewgong boys. Then clear the decks for ten minutes.
Hatandboots · 2 points · Posted at 05:02:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its like pre salted beef I assume.
heefledger · 1 points · Posted at 05:24:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Manatees live in fresh water
Edit: I checked to make sure and they can hang in salt water too I guess. And brackish water, whatever that is.
totesnotarobot · 2 points · Posted at 05:29:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Brackish is slightly salty, like where the river meets the ocean and the water starts to mix
Hatandboots · 1 points · Posted at 05:25:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Waaat? TIL
superJarvis · 1 points · Posted at 02:04:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or curious
TheNerdyCountryBoy · 1 points · Posted at 04:32:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ok mom
coachbradb · 1 points · Posted at 01:21:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Exactly. It is only cultural norms that change what is normal.
Super_Satchel · 1 points · Posted at 01:23:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Edible /= food.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 03:04:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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chocolatechoux · 1 points · Posted at 04:30:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah. It's delicious.
Seriously though try to tone it down. Right now you sound like you want an excuse to sound pretentious more than you want more rights for animals.
BotnetSpam · 0 points · Posted at 05:17:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Anything is anything if you're anything enough.
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 03:12:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its funny that we live in a world where it's easy NOT to be that hungry, but people still continue to eat meat like agriculturally-inept cavemen anyways.
PurpEL · 3 points · Posted at 04:45:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
really?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:57:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Found the Vegan.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:48:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Found the karma whore.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 06:06:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Relevant
[deleted] · 132 points · Posted at 20:35:10 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Regurgitates Chinese food into trash can
Zigora · 150 points · Posted at 20:49:36 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
sniffs Hey, you gonna finish that?
[deleted] · 42 points · Posted at 21:02:06 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Throws up into garbage can
Nope. All yours.
64682 · 24 points · Posted at 23:19:39 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mongolian Barf-acue! -Francine Smith
thisismy20 · 1 points · Posted at 04:30:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
HORCHATA!
Zigora · 1 points · Posted at 23:49:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Everyone knows chinese food is just as good the second time you eat it. Or is that just with take-out...?
carltoncarlton · 1 points · Posted at 06:32:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Regurgitate means the same.
skarby · 2 points · Posted at 00:06:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Zoidberg?
Notsodarknight · 1 points · Posted at 05:57:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I mean. It is technically still food.
Super_Satchel · 23 points · Posted at 01:22:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If it's American style Chinese food it is less Chinese than I am.
I am not Chinese.
shoelie · 2 points · Posted at 01:08:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That stuff isn't from China why are you worried?
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 22:16:07 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
digs through trash can because Chinese food
viz0rGaming · 1 points · Posted at 01:47:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If it makes you feel better, pigs and dogs are pretty similar.
zubie_wanders · 1 points · Posted at 04:27:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/lgugWED16PQ?t=2m15s
greygreygrey · 50 points · Posted at 00:13:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I agree: there is no line.
Source: local Chinese take-out place is located between a veterinary office and a pet store.
coachbradb · 37 points · Posted at 01:20:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They have a saying in China. If its back is to the sky than you can eat it.
baked_salmon · 32 points · Posted at 01:55:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My Taiwanese friend said something similar: "If it has four legs and isn't a table, you can eat it."
Hysterymystery · 28 points · Posted at 03:10:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mmm...chairs...
qiezidaifuer · 3 points · Posted at 03:55:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
... and has two wings but is not an airplane
LikeWolvesDo · 1 points · Posted at 03:24:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've had Kangaroo. Do their top limbs count as arms or legs?
NOE3ON · 34 points · Posted at 01:43:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I thought it was illegal to eat ass in China.
superdirtyusername · 2 points · Posted at 01:51:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Get the fuck out of here, Shrek.
coachbradb · 2 points · Posted at 13:11:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have been told many times by my Chinese friends and family that they will eat anything except chicken ass.
Notsodarknight · 2 points · Posted at 05:58:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Vet: we have a very humane way of dealing with our deceased animals.
Owner: oh thank you so much.
owner leaves
Vet: call the Ngo's and tell them I have their special tonight!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 03:59:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Anything with four legs except the table.
remuliini · 2 points · Posted at 04:38:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I read that with Homer's voice: "There Is No Line."
coachbradb · 1 points · Posted at 13:06:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
DOH!
bluebooby · 2 points · Posted at 04:39:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Interestingly enough, Prince Phillip said similar things, "If it has four legs and is not a chair, has wings and is not an aeroplane, or swims and is not a submarine, the Catonese will eat it."
varikonniemi · 2 points · Posted at 05:48:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is the only logical stance.
Graoutchmeuh · 2 points · Posted at 14:36:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Probably because what people see as a line is actually a snake.
coachbradb · 1 points · Posted at 14:52:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes a yummy snake.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 15:00:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fire up the grill boys!
nlpnt · 2 points · Posted at 23:26:47 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
...There's a cat in the kettle at the Peking Moon, the place where I eat every day at noon...
ShadyG · 6 points · Posted at 00:18:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is so not Weird Al.
nlpnt · 1 points · Posted at 00:22:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Didn't post the video, just clicked on the first result a title search came up with.
cypherreddit · 1 points · Posted at 01:03:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bob Rivers, performer of many That-is-so-not-Weird-Al Weird-Al songs
sighs__unzips · 1 points · Posted at 02:39:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The line goes the other way.
compstomper · 0 points · Posted at 00:28:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
how are the panda steaks?
baconair · 2 points · Posted at 18:33:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They tend to be very rare.
coachbradb · 2 points · Posted at 01:20:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have not eaten one but I am sure you can find someone in China who has.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 04:53:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Every time I read about China online I start hating it more
coachbradb · 2 points · Posted at 13:06:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There are a lot of bad things in China but there are good ones too. I loved living in China. I made a lot of money and lived like a rock star. Of course I had to put up with a lot of dumb shit also.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 10:05:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah there is. It's just at the cash register.
PistolMancer · -2 points · Posted at 04:30:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
i dont appreciate the blatant racism and stereotyping. could happen anywhere you dont have to single china out.
coachbradb · 2 points · Posted at 13:10:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cant tell if you are being sarcastic or not. If you are not being sarcastic than this is for you.
China is not one race so talking about the country and its customs is not racist. It is also not stereotyping as I never said that EVERYONE in China felt this way.
I also did not single out China. I said I lived in China and this is the norm there. If I had lived in another country I would have mentioned them too.
But it does not. The fact we are talking about it proves that. China and many Asian cultures feel this way about food. It is not a good thing or a bad thing. It is just a fact. You do not see this happening in European countries. This is also not a good thing or a bad thing. Just a fact.
So kiss my ass for being a dumb ass.
If you were being sarcastic than disregard the above.
ATF628 · -4 points · Posted at 01:53:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
*rine
vahntitrio · 2224 points · Posted at 20:20:26 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit is pretty tasty.
Dunyvaig · 1139 points · Posted at 21:38:39 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/Req6JmZ.png
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OurSponsor · 603 points · Posted at 22:05:37 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is pretty darn delicious too.
awesomewookiee · 217 points · Posted at 22:09:46 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I honestly prefer it to cow. It's like beefier beef.
krackbaby · 138 points · Posted at 00:58:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My entire life is a lie. I need to get some horse now!
[deleted] · 96 points · Posted at 02:00:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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btribble · 34 points · Posted at 02:49:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Jack in the Box almost sold kangaroo burgers, but alas it was not to be.
JayLuvLL · 43 points · Posted at 04:02:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Kangaroo meat is fucking good too
Grill'd occasionally does a promotion for Australia Day called the "Coat of Arms Burger", which contains both Kangaroo steak and Emu breast, the animals on our coat of arms.
One_Dull_Tool · 2 points · Posted at 08:39:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ya'll cook prisoners of war? Aussies are more hardcore than I thought.
austeregrim · 1 points · Posted at 06:39:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ostrich are also a good meat.
stonedkayaker · 1 points · Posted at 15:00:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
On the Fourth of July, every McDonalds in America sells bald eagle burgers.
MrEmouse · 1 points · Posted at 15:30:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Made me wonder if there's a kiwi on New Zealand's coat of arms. Someone could make kiwi sliders.
They'd have to farm raise a ton of kiwis though. People would be upset if they trapped and cooked all the wild kiwis.
Microthrowaway64 · 26 points · Posted at 03:17:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
New Zealand tried Kiwi burgers but we ran out of birds, now its endangered.
markender · 4 points · Posted at 04:48:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
For real? Can you give me a source on this?
fandamplus · 3 points · Posted at 05:43:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
no
WeaponsGradeHumanity · 5 points · Posted at 06:01:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's a joke. What really happened was that the kiwi burger had kiwi fruit in it and now gardening is illegal.
Microthrowaway64 · 2 points · Posted at 16:48:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
....
qyiet · 1 points · Posted at 06:09:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They are still on the menu, but with beef now.
https://mcdonalds.co.nz/menu/kiwiburger
Pullo_T · 1 points · Posted at 06:06:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In New Zealand that is considered humor.
SexualPredat0r · 1 points · Posted at 04:41:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The only thing New Zealand has ever done that could be considered bad.
saffir · 5 points · Posted at 04:32:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I ate kangaroo burgers in Australia... damn tasty
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 03:56:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Jumbo Jumping Jack w/ cheese.
blamb211 · 2 points · Posted at 04:00:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Grocery store near me sometimes has kangaroo meat. I'll have to get some eventually.
aj4000 · 4 points · Posted at 03:53:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shame. Kangaroo is actually healthier than beef. Better for the environment too.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:02:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Roo meat isn't really suitable for burger patties as there is virtually no fat so it easily dries out. You probably weren't missing much.
That being said I have had some good ones. They just need to be served quite rare and I'd hazard to guess the chefs at Jack in the Box probably didn't come out of Le Cordon Bleu so I don't know that I'd trust them.
ColeSloth · 1 points · Posted at 04:57:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Do the meat up kind of like meatloaf before making the patties. Egg yolks, Westchester sauce, salt and pepper, garlic, spicy mustard, touch of olive oil.
Then you're set.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:30:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why? Then you're just using the meat as a vessel for all the other flavours. If you specifically want kangaroo meat then that's what you should be tasting.
ColeSloth · 2 points · Posted at 12:03:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes. Be damned with salt and pepper. Don't ever season your food. Don't BBQ it either because smoke adds flavor. You should only steam your food over water to cook it. All food.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:40:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I see you left out all the other ingredients you listed previously. Funny that.
ColeSloth · 1 points · Posted at 23:26:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The point just whizzed by you, it seems.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:44:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They should try kangasausages at IHOP.
ColeSloth · 1 points · Posted at 04:54:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Had roo jerky before. Not that great.
NewbornMuse · 2 points · Posted at 03:46:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Barbara Streisand Effect!
To anyone who's confused how there could be a scandal about undeclared horse meat when it's a good meat, it's about an antibiotic that horses handle just fine, but is dangerous to humans. Pet horses are treated with it regularly, while those destined for consumption aren't, of course. As a consequence of that, the meat of the latter is fairly expensive, the meat of the former is dirt cheap because no one wants it.
Amentes · 2 points · Posted at 12:42:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Having eaten Horse was never the issue; rather that the horses weren't bred for eating, and may well have been medicated or fed with something containing chemicals that would pass on to anyone eating them.
Horse meat is a bit sweeter in taste than beef, but otherwise it's very similar in my experience.
I probably wouldn't deliberately serve it to guests, for one because I have nowhere local to buy it outside of expensive specialty butchers shops, but it also just isn't normal practice here and it might weird people out.
otiswrath · 1 points · Posted at 05:29:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I loved that IKEA's response to "Swedish Meatballs made with horse sold in US" was "Sorry, those were supposed to go to France" where they like eating horse. That's cool, got no problem with equine ingestion. Just thought is was funny that for a second everyone thought it was a big scandal and then realized it was just a shipping error.
boomerxl · 1 points · Posted at 07:56:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I remember trying to explain to people that the issue wasn't that it was horse meat, the issue was that it was sold as beef with no controls. Horse is bloody tasty.
Ieatmung · 21 points · Posted at 01:43:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I tried some while I was in Japan, didn't like it that much. I was also offered whale, but I declined
retardborist · 12 points · Posted at 01:50:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had whale tartar in Iceland. It was fantastic!
sperglord_manchild · 3 points · Posted at 05:51:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fuck you
retardborist · 2 points · Posted at 12:55:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/E39WWj_RpBc
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 06:07:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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Spekingur · 2 points · Posted at 11:26:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whales are not being hunted in Iceland any more. Not because of any new laws, but because of costs. Any whale meat you get in Iceland now is from previous hunts. Getting whale meat now doesn't mean supporting the hunting because there is no more hunting.
In any case, those types that were hunted were not endangered in the Atlantic Ocean.
Ieatmung · 1 points · Posted at 00:10:04 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
They're also really intelligent. It's believed they actually have a pretty complex language, we just can't understand it. It would be awesome to somehow figure out how to meaningfully communicate with them. They may oral history passed down from generation to generation. Anyway, I refuse to eat whale and will openly shame people that do.
Saskyle · 5 points · Posted at 01:55:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why did you decline the whale? Don't like seafood?
sryii · 24 points · Posted at 02:50:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Probably doesn't like high mercury content. It is something like 900 times the legal limit often. Depends on the type of whale though.
Saskyle · 10 points · Posted at 02:52:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Damn, good to know.
sryii · 2 points · Posted at 03:20:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eating it once in a little amount is probably fine for say blue whale but Minke is very high.
humplick · 3 points · Posted at 03:32:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Huh, makes sense though. Methyl Mercury permeates the entire ocean and affects everything, from the smallest creatures to the largest. Long lived, apex predators (Marlin, Swordfish, Whales, Sturgeon, Shark, Porpoise etc...) will accumulate more in their system, since it is a chemical that once in the body, doesn't leach out.
ironwolfpack · 9 points · Posted at 04:17:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Whale doesn't even take like fish: it's a mammal, tastes more like beef that never walked, and spent it's life floating in brine.
physchy · 2 points · Posted at 08:18:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Holy shit that sounds delicious tbh
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:48:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So, delicious?
Vexxt · 12 points · Posted at 03:12:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well, considering japanese whaling is an incredibly sketchy business, "scientific research", hunting of at risk species, and consistent refusal of the japanese to come to the table on any real agreement to conservation, it's fair not to support it.
remuliini · 5 points · Posted at 04:43:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And quite a lot of the whale meat ends up frozen and sent to schools etc because not too many ppl want to buy that.
mightylordredbeard · 0 points · Posted at 03:30:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
He doesn't like feminist.
SHlTFAGGOT · 0 points · Posted at 00:34:01 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
Aside from the mercury content mentioned(from us asshole humans dumping our waste in the ocean) they're also really intelligent, rivaling even ours in brain structure and neurons. Whales and dolphins have complex languages we can't understand very well at all, we can recognize they even have unique names and respond to when called. They may even have oral history like humans had 10's of thousands of years ago. So what makes us seem sooo much more intelligent? Maybe it's our writing system to pass all our information down to the next generations. We also have fingers and thumbs with high dexterity to build devices. But if you go back 30,000 years the humans living in caves had nearly identical brains to modern humans, but didn't have a writing system. People may view cavemen as being stupid but that's just because they didn't have the tools to reach their potential like reading/writing. Same thing may apply to whales, they may be very intelligent (and the evidence suggests so based on their brains and complex languages) they just appear stupid because they don't have technology and we can't talk to them.
So why should you care if you're killing other intelligent species? Compassion. Compassion is a form of intelligence. Some people have it, some don't. Anyway, you may not give a fuck about the intelligence of whatever you kill/eat in which case, you may be very lacking in intelligence and empathy. Or maybe you're not lacking in intelligence at all and are a borderline sociopath.
Here's a quote by Albert Einstein: "A human being is part of a whole, called by us the ‘Universe’ —a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts, and feelings, as something separated from the rest—a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circles of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."
just something to think about
Saskyle · 0 points · Posted at 00:45:40 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thanks for your input. You appear to know what you are talking about on most points but you saying "So why should you care if you're killing other intelligent species? Compassion. Compassion is a form of intelligence. Some people have it, some don't. Anyway, you may not give a fuck about the intelligence of whatever you kill/eat in which case, you may be very lacking in intelligence and empathy. Or maybe you're not lacking in intelligence at all and are a borderline sociopath." was extremely uncalled for.
Maybe you should look into some of that empathy stuff you were talking about. I have never eaten whale and I didn't plan to and I just wanted more information on what made /u/Ieatmung decide to not eat the whale. So maybe take a step back and not be such a matter-of-fact preachy A-hole next time. Thanks for trying but you lack compassion where-as you preach it to others.
SHlTFAGGOT · 0 points · Posted at 10:45:06 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
It was an if. I was saying IF you don't care about the intelligence of the animals you eat, then you should learn some empathy because that is sociopathic tendencies. If you DO care about the overall well being of people you've never met, or living creatures and nature in its entirety, then that was not directed at you. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that, I was speaking generally. You know how when someone's giving a speech and they say things like, "so why should you care?" to everyone to grab your attention? It was supposed to come off like that, but it's a lot harder to convey your true thoughts over text obviously. Lots of human communication is through body language and tone of voice, which is obviously lost here.
However, I don't believe compassion involves holding back the truth to spare someone's feelings from being hurt. If my words actually had any type of lasting negative impact on you, I am sorry, that wasn't my intent. I wasn't trying to call you stupid or anything. But if someone(not you specifically) only ever looks to benefit themselves, and thinks something like human tradition take precedence over things like slaughtering thousands of whales and dolphins, while obdurately pretending animals don't have emotions, then they are dumb. Hope all is well with you
SHlTFAGGOT · 0 points · Posted at 01:04:17 on May 28, 2016 · (Permalink)
Let me repeat myself. Having compassion doesn't mean sparing your poor sensitive feelings from being hurt when i'm speaking the truth. If someone's candid words on the internet actually impacted you negatively, then you need to reevaluate yourself because you're always going to have your feelings hurt if you're on the internet, or even reading a book. Get some thicker skin. Comprende?
kokopoo12 · 1 points · Posted at 03:17:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I know where to find at least two.
FunkSlice · 1 points · Posted at 03:30:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You'll end up looking like Overeem.
Flavourized · 1 points · Posted at 03:31:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just head to your nearest IKEA and pick up some meatballs!
CoffeeFox · 1 points · Posted at 04:38:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If you want to try some alternatives to beef that taste better, try bison, too.
It's expensive but it's good.
buddascrayon · 1 points · Posted at 02:49:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You've had Taco Bell haven't you?
IdontReadArticles · 1 points · Posted at 14:27:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's mostly circus animals. Very few horses.
reerg · 19 points · Posted at 00:57:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eh. Tastes like a discount version to me. Alright though. Like the meat you get in a restaurant on Tenerife with plastic chairs.
Coldshek · 19 points · Posted at 02:04:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hahahahaha I didnt expect to see my island named on this thread, I guess the kind of restaurant you are refeering too is a "Guachinche" where they serve traditional Canary Islands food, and the meat is called "Carne Fiesta" (Party Meat)
reerg · 5 points · Posted at 02:17:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Haha! I didn't really have any specific in mind and I don't think I've ever eaten carne fiesta! It just reminded me of some steaks I've had during childhood vacations at some "dodgy" restaurants and I needed to come up with an example.
inthedrink · 2 points · Posted at 03:22:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Can you explain to us what party meat is? Or is that an unsolved mystery?
Coldshek · 2 points · Posted at 03:38:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I know its a bit dissapointing, but its just pork meat.
relayrider · 1 points · Posted at 17:32:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
was my nickname in undergrad
IHatloWomen · 2 points · Posted at 01:55:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is such a specific decription and it perfectly depicts everything I need to know.
ardoin · 2 points · Posted at 02:27:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's very lean meat.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/eat-horsemeant-french-chef-martin-leman_n_2695567.html?utm_hp_ref=business
Ameisen · 1 points · Posted at 02:41:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They missed a golden opportuneighty.
btribble · 1 points · Posted at 02:53:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a whinnier.
[deleted] · 26 points · Posted at 01:28:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The stuff I had was like a mix of venison and beef. Little gamier than any beef I've had, but much more tender than any game animal I've had. Good combination, I'd probably eat it more often if it were popular.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:38:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So... like grass-fed beef?
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:50:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My family farm has grass fed cattle, and grass fed horses... no, they're still different. Grass fed, pasture kept cattle is still very tender, and ultimately it isn't really obvious you're eating the inside of an animal. Horse is like a game animal that doesn't leave a bloody aftertaste.
onewaybackpacking · 2 points · Posted at 01:44:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It is in some countries. Try Iceland for instance.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:04:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Quebec too. Cheaper than beef as well.
Tahl_eN · 1 points · Posted at 03:21:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had some delicious horse tartar in Poland.
delli · 1 points · Posted at 04:30:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Slovenia and Central Europe too
LikeWolvesDo · 1 points · Posted at 03:18:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sounds a lot like Alpaca. Which can be quite delicious.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:30:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's the thing, beef doesn't need to be wholly beefy, for the fat in it makes it very succulent. I guess that's what you're talking about.
speshnz · 1 points · Posted at 02:03:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
better for you too, leaner
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:04:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Venison would be right up your alley
DRACULA_WOLFMAN · 1 points · Posted at 04:07:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So uhh.. where do I go to try horse? You've got me curious now, and I'm pretty sure I need to try beefier beef before I die.
satanicwaffles · 1 points · Posted at 05:47:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse: The Beefier Beef
Notsodarknight · 1 points · Posted at 06:00:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Think that each steak is named after the horse too? That way snobby rich people can pick their steak according to how good the horse was?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:01:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The line is basically carnivores- they don't taste fantastic, herbivores are all perfectly edible.
adelie42 · 1 points · Posted at 23:48:44 on September 4, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where is the goat and sheep, all delicious and lean.
jonbyars06 · 40 points · Posted at 23:29:03 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten horse, only because I couldn't read Portuguese.
SyKoHPaTh · 56 points · Posted at 23:56:25 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I ate glue as a kid, does that count?
ukiyoe · 12 points · Posted at 00:25:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hey man, no shame if you're still eatin' glue.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 01:45:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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Microthrowaway64 · 2 points · Posted at 03:19:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
*I used to eat glue, I still do. But I used to too.
FTFY
Ieatmung · 2 points · Posted at 01:45:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
charlie?
Ellacey · 1 points · Posted at 00:04:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Really sticks to your ribs.
SaintJimmy1 · 2 points · Posted at 23:47:41 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
How was it?
Sergiotor9 · 2 points · Posted at 02:25:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not him, I personally find it worse than cow, it's not as smooth and refined as regular beef but it lacks the wild factor and intense flavour of other meats like Venison or Boar (If you ever get the chance to try a good boar dish, do it).
I personally don't find horse meat remarkable.
knvf · 1 points · Posted at 02:56:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten horse... only because I'm not American and horse is normal to eat in most of the world.
Yagihige · 1 points · Posted at 11:46:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where was it and what was it called?
derwolfanwalt · 40 points · Posted at 22:26:11 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
All I came to say is that I wish I could come by some horse meat and now I'm sad.
spays_marine · 24 points · Posted at 23:24:47 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm confused, you can't buy horsemeat where you live?
daemyn · 79 points · Posted at 23:57:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
The slaughter of horses for meat is prohibited in the US. While it's not technically illegal to have, sell, or consume it, the meat is really pretty difficult and expensive to get.
This despite the massive wild horse population here that wreaks havoc on both natural and for production agriculture rangeland
Crazymoose86 · 58 points · Posted at 00:24:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Don't forget the fact that the united states government population controls 50k+ horses per year and exports the meat to other countries for consumption.
Butthole__Pleasures · 11 points · Posted at 00:47:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Do you know what they do with the blood? I'm looking for a connection...
Crazymoose86 · 4 points · Posted at 00:57:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well, pretty much all throughout the meat industry all Hemoglobin is drained from the carcass, and is generally pumped into a recycling system that will recover most of the blood which they then will sell for other products such as blood meal. It usually isn't marked for human consumption though, and thus Would be very difficult to acquire for the Lay man. You can always check your local slaughterhouse to find out what they may charge for blood (Though you would most likely be asked to pay by the drum/tote which can be as high as 330Gal/1250KG)
Butthole__Pleasures · 9 points · Posted at 01:56:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Don't worry, it's not for human consumption.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:28:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Username checks out
Butthole__Pleasures · 3 points · Posted at 03:30:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Uhhh...
K
fandamplus · 1 points · Posted at 05:45:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
usually
neurons4me · 1 points · Posted at 06:28:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Given your username I am hesitant to ask what you intend to do with a drum of horse blood.
fatherramon · 3 points · Posted at 01:53:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hey FBI.... I think we found that serial killer you were looking for
Callingcardkid · 1 points · Posted at 05:52:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What the hell do you need horse blood for
Butthole__Pleasures · 2 points · Posted at 07:03:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Stuff
I_worship_odin · 2 points · Posted at 04:53:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Apparently you can adopt them. 235,000 have been adopted since 1971.
http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/whbprogram/history_and_facts/quick_facts.html
Magicteapotbeliever · 6 points · Posted at 02:02:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wow America is so f-ed up in some situations. Yet your army and entertainment industry are second to none.
Crazymoose86 · 9 points · Posted at 02:15:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In regards to army, The Russian army had me somewhat concerned right up until we saw how they were handling everything in the Saudi Arabia right now. There bungling of their part showed me that they just aren't nearly experienced enough to truly challenge the U.S. The Chinese are currently the only Military I have concerns about at this point, but that mostly stems from them being aggressive but we haven't seen how well organized they truly are.
a_lumberjack · 2 points · Posted at 02:41:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's a pretty well established truth that the shift to a much higher level of military training in the early 80s pretty much made the Soviets decide they wouldn't win. Nothing is better in the Russian era.
jobbarsmart · 2 points · Posted at 06:03:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So, what are they doing in Saudi Arabia?
schwagnificent · 1 points · Posted at 02:16:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Those bastards just want to keep their monopoly on delicious exported US horse meat.
theregoesanother · 1 points · Posted at 02:26:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Which comes back through IKEA.
pmMeYourBoxOfCables · 15 points · Posted at 00:13:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There are still wild horses in the United States? I don't think there is any reason why there shouldn't be any but this still surprises me.
bigfish42 · 72 points · Posted at 00:18:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's a lot of empty land in the west.
fisticuffsmanship · 19 points · Posted at 00:40:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Anyone who has ever been to Kansas can attest to that.
DukeofPoundtown · 19 points · Posted at 00:47:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Kansas is not the west. Wait, KC is in the AFC West and Kansas is West of Missouri, so I guess that counts.
jwinn35 · 2 points · Posted at 02:07:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Props for not lumping us in with Kansas and knowing your city/States
DukeofPoundtown · 3 points · Posted at 03:04:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
No one needs to show me where the Show Me State is! Also, lots fam from Oklahoma. They hate that I'm rooting for the Warriors.
Diabeticon · 2 points · Posted at 15:20:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
All I know about Kansas is what I read in this research piece.
bitches_love_brie · 1 points · Posted at 04:36:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I always figured the line was the Mississippi River. That said, I'm a Missouri resident and don't think of Missouri or Kansas "the west". Maybe Colorado is the west.
DukeofPoundtown · 1 points · Posted at 16:15:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
It has mountains in half and is mostly flat in the other half, so it's half-West, half Midwest.
Edit: Brie, that's what I need to add to my game. It all makes sense now.
fisticuffsmanship · 1 points · Posted at 00:54:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I guess Midwest is more accurate. I just remembered Kansas as having a whole lot of empty space when I drove through and wanted to throw a dig their way
TheCatWar · 2 points · Posted at 00:58:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm from Kansas. It's beautiful and ugly. I love it. It sucks. Too hot. Too cold. Windy. Dusty. Tornado-ey. Wet. And it's only Tuesday.
deadsoulinside · 2 points · Posted at 02:27:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Kansas: Where it can snow in the AM, then by the PM, your taking cover in a Tornado shelter.
TyrKiyote · 1 points · Posted at 03:32:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
All those giant fans should keep you cool.
DukeofPoundtown · 1 points · Posted at 01:47:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I gotcha. More tornadoes than people lol
SqueegeeDinoToy · 2 points · Posted at 01:56:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Try North Dakota, Wyoming, or Montana. Kansas is just flat as fuck and not the west.
beholdsa · 1 points · Posted at 14:12:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If you think Kansas is empty, then you should see Utah, New Mexico or Nevada.
Source: Grew up in Kansas and then moved to New Mexico. Holy fuck it was empty compared to Kansas.
DukeofPoundtown · 3 points · Posted at 00:45:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But getting water to it is the expensive part right now
Doritos2458 · 1 points · Posted at 05:20:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shit, there's populations of them in Maryland as well out near some of the beaches (I think Ocean City?). Not uncommon to see em if you pass by some wetlands early morning around there.
kazneus · 3 points · Posted at 00:44:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://www.chincoteague.com/ponies.html
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:32:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
After reading your commend and replies, I'm amazed. I had actually assumed wild horses were everywhere for some reason...
SqueegeeDinoToy · 2 points · Posted at 01:57:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Look up North Dakota badlands
JaredBanyard · 2 points · Posted at 02:51:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Vieques Island, Puerto Rico has 5000 wild horses and they are a pain in the ass.
sryii · 2 points · Posted at 02:51:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The are and they are protected.
varothen · 4 points · Posted at 01:30:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They aren't truly wild horses, most are descended former domesticated horses. They have been here a few hundred years so that's why most people consider them wild. But I don't believe coming from domestic stock makes you a truly wild animal. It's mostly splitting hairs
Redebo · 2 points · Posted at 03:40:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So we're back to the rabbit again, got it.
remuliini · 1 points · Posted at 04:47:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Soooo... Not wild herd you said, escaped domesticated you said? Now, where's my rifle again..
ineedtotakeashit · 3 points · Posted at 00:50:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
A bunch in Nevada
About 33k nation wide
Sleth · 2 points · Posted at 01:06:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eastern Oregon has wild horses. Mustangs I think.
Porphyrius · 1 points · Posted at 01:34:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There are some around the Chesapeake Bay.
3point1415NEIN · 1 points · Posted at 06:31:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Technically they are feral (descended from domesticated horses that got free somehow). North America's native wild population died off a long time ago
SincerelyNow · 1 points · Posted at 01:16:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
BLM and Indian reservations in the West are full of wild horses.
SnowedOutMT · 1 points · Posted at 03:50:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Here in Montana there are herds that they try to keep in check by slaughtering and sterilization. They are wild, but they're not native but they are herd grazing animals that compete for food with native species like the elk. And most people like their elk because of hunting, but some groups get all, "Save the mustangs" and cause a big stink because precious horses are getting slaughtered and turned to glue or whatever. It's got to be hard for Fish and Game sometimes I think when everyone becomes armchair biologists.
Jumpinjackfrost · 6 points · Posted at 02:47:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fun fact ! The wild horses in America are technically feral, not wild. They are classed as domestic horses that aren't yet tamed.
There are only a few truly wild horses left in the world, mostly located in Mongolia. They are called Przewalski’s Horse. (Scientific name - Equus ferus przewalskii)
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 00:08:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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generic93 · 1 points · Posted at 10:53:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
From my understanding it was federally defunded so while not banned it was 'frowned upon' that's why if you go to horse sales you'll always see the worthless ones go for pennies on the dollar to get shipped down to Mexico for slaughter. Which I think is good. It provided an incentive to dispose of an unwanted horse humanely. Now people will turn them loose or keep them locked up to suffer because it isn't worth your time to try and sell them
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 11:09:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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generic93 · 2 points · Posted at 11:17:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I swear someone led me once it was supposed to be a very stringy meat, but with all the talk I'm seeing now I'm starting to want to try it. But besides that there's alot of other uses for it like pet food. Just seems a waste when you hear about abandoned horses that get hit by vehicles or die of malnutrition
krackbaby · 1 points · Posted at 00:59:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If they're invasive and numerous, can't you blast away at them just like you would with coyotes or white-tailed carkillers?
Rudy69 · 1 points · Posted at 02:38:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They sell it in most grocery stores around here (Quebec, Canada)
Liempt · 1 points · Posted at 06:33:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just come up to Canada if you're near the northern border - my town has a lot of Dutch-Canadians (including me) and it's pretty easy to just go grab some rookvlees (smoked horse meat) from the local ethnic food shop.
ScriptThat · 1 points · Posted at 07:57:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
dafuq? I can't imagine why it would be that.
Spekingur · 1 points · Posted at 11:30:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cheap in Iceland, especially when compared to beef.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:00:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why is horse meat forbidden? It doesn't make any sense, the animal is not even near extinction.
unicorntrash · 1 points · Posted at 11:27:05 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thats funny because the by far cheapest horse meat we have here is the import stuff from the U.S.
derwolfanwalt · 6 points · Posted at 23:34:52 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
If I can I'm unaware as to how. I live in New England. I'm fairly certain if I asked at the local grocery store meat department I'd get a weird look.
SharksCantSwim · 2 points · Posted at 23:43:43 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
You would need to order it specially as it won't just be on the shelf. Eg. In Australia there is generally once place to get it and you have to order it directly from them as it's not a common meat in most countries.
DinaDinaDinaBatman · 1 points · Posted at 00:52:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
yeah but when in Australia why eat horse meat when kangaroo meat is even tastier...
SharksCantSwim · 1 points · Posted at 00:55:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I honestly don't like the taste of kangaroo. It's got a weird gamy taste and smell. I like other game meat but kangaroo just doesn't do it for me.
DinaDinaDinaBatman · 1 points · Posted at 01:33:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
to be honest, i've only ever tasted it prepared for me.. in restaurants or pies, i need to get some and cook it myself for final judgement...
Jumpinjackfrost · 1 points · Posted at 02:48:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where can you buy it in Aus? Don't tell me bloody Woolies have it and I've just never seen it.
SharksCantSwim · 1 points · Posted at 02:54:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Apparently the only place is in WA and you have to order it from there.
hortence · 4 points · Posted at 23:49:44 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
You can't here. In Canada it is only really available in Quebec, though you will find it in every large grocery store (though with a small selection).
squeakywall · 2 points · Posted at 23:54:07 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have had it in London, Ontario. Dutch friends of mine use to eat horse meat sandwiches quite frequently.
hortence · 2 points · Posted at 00:11:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Interesting. I never saw it elsewhere, but special order possibilities make sense.
ArroganceHoTS · 1 points · Posted at 00:41:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fellow new Englander here and would love to find me some horse meat!
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Multi_Grain_Cheerios · 3 points · Posted at 00:02:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not true. Illegal in some states but legal in most.
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Multi_Grain_Cheerios · 1 points · Posted at 00:54:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not too hard to get just can't get it in the supermarket. Online or something wouldn't really be bad. Never had it myself.
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Multi_Grain_Cheerios · 1 points · Posted at 01:14:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ehhh, there are several companies online that ship raw steaks and stuff to you. They are just shipped in a cold container with dry ice or something usually. Someone shipped my dad some steaks before and they were good. Not really super informed about it but it's not really a hassle. Maybe expensive though.
Wood_Warden · 9 points · Posted at 01:00:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse Sashimi.. mmmmm it's amazing.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:01:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Basashi
WentoX · 2 points · Posted at 02:39:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They're also useful for making things stick together.
Ask_me_about_adykfor · 2 points · Posted at 03:50:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dog is great if prepared correctly
cos1ne · 1 points · Posted at 04:30:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eh...I mean it doesn't taste too bad, almost like beef, but it still retains the dog smell even after being cooked.
gwarsh41 · 2 points · Posted at 13:38:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I'll eat horse. Kangaroo though, not that good. I hear hippo goes right through you.
Source on hippo, south african granfather in law. Apparently hippo meat is good for pranking, but he is very old, so I don't know.
Qapiojg · 2 points · Posted at 17:20:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's just wrong. You wouldn't eat a car would you?
joshing_slocum · 2 points · Posted at 00:20:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've heard it can be amazing: http://www.foodbeast.com/news/horse-meat-sushi-is-a-new-delicacy-in-japan/
infinitevalence · 2 points · Posted at 00:40:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse was one of my top ten meals this far in life. Worth the trip to Iceland.
st0815 · 1 points · Posted at 11:44:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We have that in Munich, too: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Pferdemetzgerei_Vitualienmarkt_M%C3%BCnchen_DSCF6951.jpg
Butthole__Pleasures · 1 points · Posted at 00:46:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Right? So good.
piri_piri_pintade · 1 points · Posted at 00:52:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think it's too lean compare to beef.
Saucermote · 1 points · Posted at 01:28:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe we could fatten them up, feed them some high fructose corn syrup, not let them get any exercise, give them the veal treatment; see if that helps move things along.
priorit · 1 points · Posted at 01:14:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pretty good raw too, with some ginger and soy sauce.
iizuna · 1 points · Posted at 01:46:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I eat raw horse meat on a weekly basis... its too damn delicious
BlasphemousArchetype · 1 points · Posted at 02:29:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And one hell of a fuck.
btribble · 1 points · Posted at 02:47:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In France, both of these are accepted sources of meat.
sionna · 1 points · Posted at 03:16:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is so damn good. I had it for the first time a few weeks ago in Japan. It was a lot more sweet and a lot less gamey than I was expecting.
mightylordredbeard · 1 points · Posted at 03:30:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't it illegal to kill and eat horse in the US?
DVteCrazy_UVteS-hole · 1 points · Posted at 03:39:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't like it. 100% nothing against it on an ethical-sort of basis, I just had it and I didn't like it. Wouldn't spit it out, but would never go out and buy it.
I'm guessing I didn't have the best quality the 1-2 times I tried it, though.
Good lean meat though.
JoshSidekick · 1 points · Posted at 03:47:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I remember an episode of MASH telling me differently.
bitches_love_brie · 1 points · Posted at 04:34:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Got a pizza in when I was in Italy with shredded horse meat. Wasn't bad.
ummtheguy · 1 points · Posted at 06:26:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
To shreds you say?
LurkerOrHydralisk · 1 points · Posted at 04:51:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I really wonder why they're not more available. I can get New Zealand red deer, wild boar, elk, camel, gator, antelope, bison, and I think lion, and that's just at one burger place. But I've never seen horse on the menu anywhere
HamiltonIsGreat · 1 points · Posted at 06:12:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh hey there Mr. Overeem
JoeyJoeC · 1 points · Posted at 06:17:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Having eaten horse, in the form of a tesco spaghetti bolognaise, I couldn't tell the difference.
ummtheguy · 1 points · Posted at 06:24:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sounds espensive.
fholcan · 1 points · Posted at 09:44:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I tried it once, I found it a bit too acidic (I don't know if that's the right word)
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:58:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I totally agree. And it doesn't have much fat and a bunch of proteins so it's both delicious and healthy food.
vietloc1 · 1 points · Posted at 18:04:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Found the Dothraki's official reddit account.
PTgenius · 16 points · Posted at 23:54:48 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse meat is quite common as well.
Jack_BE · 1 points · Posted at 05:04:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
shhh, yanks and brits have heart attacks at the mention of horse meat
sarabjorks · 2 points · Posted at 01:06:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I "had" a cow as a kid. Got to name her, and all of her calves and the whole line, until I grew up and didn't keep track anymore. It was my cows, although they lived at my grandparents' farm. I always knew we ate them, it never even seemed weird to me.
gautarinn1 · 9 points · Posted at 23:41:44 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
we eat horses in Iceland :D
scottyb83 · 2 points · Posted at 00:36:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is it Iceland where reindeer is very popular as well or am I thinking of somewhere else? All I could remember was it was a Nordic country.
Butthole__Pleasures · 1 points · Posted at 00:49:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think you're thinking of Finland
remuliini · 1 points · Posted at 04:49:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Come to Finland where reindeers are plenty and tasty!
FatUglyProp · 5 points · Posted at 23:56:52 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Icelandic horse meat is delicious!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:51:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd imagine horse meat to taste good. Most herbivores taste good. Dogs and cats, my Chinese friend told Me, taste like plastic skin or something like that. Yuck!
dianthe · 2 points · Posted at 23:53:45 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sums it up for me!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:27:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Every few years I commit genocide at the family ranch for a large rabbit bar b que. God I look forward to it. It's been 2 years, I'd give it another one or two.
doctormcwombat · 1 points · Posted at 00:11:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I disagree. Horse would make fine sausage.
SvenExChao · 1 points · Posted at 00:13:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Technically still a line. I like the way you think.
capt_0bvious · 1 points · Posted at 02:40:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
thats not a line
Creature_73L · 1 points · Posted at 03:54:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why wouldn't you eat a horse?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:44:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
LOOK AT THE BONES!
No_utilities · 1 points · Posted at 05:47:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd prolly go with that tasty looking bulldog as well
Ozzah · 1 points · Posted at 06:37:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
As a mathematician, we do this pretty frequently. You raise your initial space into a higher dimension and draw a straight line (or 'hyperplane' as we call them) that separates your points. Then project your higher dimensional space back down and you have your wibbly wobbly line that effectively separates the points. One well known example of where this is used is Support Vector Machines.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 07:06:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is edible.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 08:08:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What about IKEA meatballs?
franzee · 1 points · Posted at 08:09:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse meat is great as well.
read_eng_lift · 0 points · Posted at 22:03:24 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
bravo...
kvltsincebirth · 302 points · Posted at 20:30:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
All we need is a few good taters.
Triple-vision · 260 points · Posted at 20:38:37 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
What's taters, precious?
[deleted] · 84 points · Posted at 21:01:14 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Smeagol doesn't know of such things as these 'taters', tell me Precious what is these?
spanflow · 197 points · Posted at 21:10:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
PO TAY TOES. Boil em. Mash em. Stick em in a stew.
bassxtrees · 63 points · Posted at 21:19:21 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I alway lose my shit at the PO TAY TOES
IgoRStripes · 66 points · Posted at 21:57:42 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sorry... I thought you said... this.
Zombie_Jesus_ · 13 points · Posted at 22:17:26 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd eat that.
NitroBubblegum · 9 points · Posted at 23:14:23 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
My man!
BowjaDaNinja · 3 points · Posted at 01:23:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Slow down!
ScarletBegonias1965 · 5 points · Posted at 01:43:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lookin good!
CreamSoda64 · 5 points · Posted at 01:45:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes!
Live_Z_Or_Die · 1 points · Posted at 03:45:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes!
ThePantryMaster · 0 points · Posted at 00:54:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You don't know me
SmoothButta · 3 points · Posted at 23:21:25 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
You like to see homos naked?
CharlieOscar · 2 points · Posted at 01:27:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
naww homiwhayumakkit
passwordismittens · 1 points · Posted at 02:04:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bout tin, twell yeargo.
metalhead4 · 1 points · Posted at 01:51:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Used to be PO TAT OWNS
kurisu7885 · 17 points · Posted at 22:42:45 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihMMw0rnKz4
Tjaden4815 · 1 points · Posted at 01:04:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is a video I have not heard in a long time. Obi Wan
bannable01 · 1 points · Posted at 01:18:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
OG video from YTMND
Which was, of course, originally just a gif with sound.
NDaveT · 1 points · Posted at 00:43:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But Precious, Middle Earth is an analog for Iron Age Europe and potatoes are native to the Americas.
kurisu7885 · 8 points · Posted at 22:42:10 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
PO-TAY-TOES!
doctormcwombat · 2 points · Posted at 00:09:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Boil 'em mash 'em. Put 'em in a stew.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:39:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Who is precious, tater?
krackbaby · 1 points · Posted at 00:56:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
PO-TA-TOES
darrellbear · 1 points · Posted at 02:21:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
On the other hand, Potatoes Are What We Eat:
https://youtu.be/S17S2SiEfLs
0ringer · 2 points · Posted at 02:16:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Then, Baby? We got a stew going...
ShirePony · 68 points · Posted at 20:53:53 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pets or Meat
Kuges · 22 points · Posted at 00:54:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
When i was a kid we use to raise rabbits and sell them like this at the Eastern Market in Detroit. Usually the Saturday before Easter. It was probably about half and half live vs butchered sales.
LikeWolvesDo · 6 points · Posted at 03:21:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'll take one of each please. One for the kids to pet while we eat!
purple_pixie · 2 points · Posted at 10:09:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ready to eat or ripen at home, I like it.
SexualPie · 2 points · Posted at 02:51:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
thats fantastic. i wonder if people bought it just to prevent it from being eaten
Phayke · 1 points · Posted at 03:03:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This sign says a lot with few words.
LolerCoaster · 14 points · Posted at 00:00:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah say rabbit is the fulcrum, those fuckers are cute and delicious
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:52:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I can't see a bunny as anything other then a pet.
SplitArrow · 4 points · Posted at 03:51:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Try rabbit meat it is delicious.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:52:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbits are friends not food.
SplitArrow · 2 points · Posted at 04:09:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Squirrel is tasty too are you friends with them?
gearpitch · 5 points · Posted at 03:51:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
During the depression it was very common to have a cage in the back yard with some rabbits to eat. Rabbit stew with veggies can feed you for a long time.
That's if you had a yard to put them in at all, a lot of homeless drifters then too.
merecido · 1 points · Posted at 05:21:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbits for sale!
Cuddly or delicious.
amostad · 43 points · Posted at 22:45:39 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
horse is good as well.
extracanadian · 5 points · Posted at 00:26:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Now I'm craving horse.
pontoumporcento · 3 points · Posted at 00:36:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not the only one :(
1BigUniverse · 1 points · Posted at 01:33:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hey you dropped this
Skittle-Dash · 1 points · Posted at 03:42:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whynotboth.jpg
viz0rGaming · 1 points · Posted at 01:45:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You must be soooooooo hungry!
Coffeebiscuit · 1 points · Posted at 10:12:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eat beef, great chance that it's actually horse meat.
kevinc69 · 2 points · Posted at 01:14:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just for Amostad
MYTBUSTOR · 112 points · Posted at 23:01:39 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like I'm the only one that's ok with eating w/e animal you choose as long as it had a painless death. I don't care if you have sauted Pomeranian, just don't drop the thing in hot water to kill it.
[deleted] · 76 points · Posted at 00:22:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I personally try to avoid eating predator meat... exception being fish, of course, because that's a vegetable according to Catholics.
krackbaby · 35 points · Posted at 01:01:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ahhh mercury, sweetest of the transition metals!
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 05:27:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But it has nothing on the sweetest of all metals, the post-transitional metal lead, which the Romans used as Lead-acetate to sweeten wine.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:07:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hell yeah. Tendernizes the meat!
Peanut_The_Great · 2 points · Posted at 03:54:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I see it's already effecting your speech center.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 03:57:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
daisy, daisy give me your answeeerrrrr er ...
glonq · 1 points · Posted at 06:34:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whoa, it's contagious!
Peanut_The_Great · 2 points · Posted at 14:09:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pls to help, my left frontal lobe is kil
Notsodarknight · 1 points · Posted at 06:01:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've always wanted my food to make me go insane and poison me!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:31:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
yes, they overall have less energy in them compared to herbivores, I'd decline doing so because of that alone.
Also kittens are adorable, but cows are dumb and dirty
Naf5000 · 3 points · Posted at 02:30:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I don't think that's fair. Cows are only dirty 'cause people don't take basic care of them,. They aren't really that dumb, either. Not compared with house cats anyway. If you actually get to know a cow, they have distinct personalities.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 02:59:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe should have said cattle, because the ones that are put in feeding camp(or whatever they're called LUL) and killed when they reach 2 years/3 years tops, are very dumb and lack any personality.
Milking cows, like the one you posted, are a whole different story they are living the highlife as far as bovine society goes.
Also you posted the same pic twice, and cats are objectively smarter than cows for being a predator.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 04:21:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd say the real reason I don't eat predators is because I don't like Prion diseases, but statistically your just as likely to get one from a cow as from a cat if you eat equal portions of both... If you're British.
Naf5000 · -1 points · Posted at 04:37:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fixed the link.
Neither cats nor cows choose their station in life. But so far as predators go, cats are really, really stupid. They've got a kit of instincts that make them fantastic predators, but they're terrible at problem solving and learning skills.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 04:12:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cows are gorgeous creatures to look at but they are in fact really, really stupid fucking animals.
Sheep too. Very nice to look at but horrendously stupid.
Grimmner · 1 points · Posted at 01:35:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Don't the Catholics also consider beaver as fish?
yellowstone10 · 4 points · Posted at 02:16:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not sure about beaver, but Catholic priests in Venezuela at one point declared capybara to be a fish so they could eat it on meat-free days. When your primary fish alternative is piranha...
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 05:00:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/once-upon-a-time-the-catholic-church-decided-that-beavers-were-fish/
HipHoboHarold · 8 points · Posted at 03:59:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Agreed. Granted, Im kind of one of those people that is willing to try anything once, but if put in front of me knowing full well what it is, I would try dog. I have a dog, and absolutely love them, but I dont see how it would be different than another animal in the end.
With that said, dont know if I could do cannibalism.
relayrider · 2 points · Posted at 17:41:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
have had dog, the way it was prepared [cubed, breaded, fried] it could have been pork or chicken or poor quality beef, wouldn't have known the difference.
Ameisen · 4 points · Posted at 02:42:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ahh, Pommerschschnitzel.
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 00:56:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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Pappy091 · 35 points · Posted at 02:38:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
To play devil's advocate, you could have a pig as a pet. Their intelligence and behaviour is EXTREMELY similar to dogs.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:16:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Slight problem there in that, while agreeably very intelligent and in my opinion very cute, pigs tend to get pretty big... Like REALLY fucking big.
CR0SBO · 2 points · Posted at 05:33:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
More to cuddle
Pappy091 · 1 points · Posted at 13:19:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not all pigs do and some dogs get really big as well.
SplitArrow · 1 points · Posted at 03:48:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah but Fido doesn't make bacon.
itsFelbourne · 13 points · Posted at 02:07:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't understand. In what way is it "wrong" other than offending personal sentiments? There is someone somewhere in the world who is breeding almost any particular animal to be a pet. Some people breed chickens to be pets, and some people breed dogs specifically to be food.
MYTBUSTOR · 8 points · Posted at 01:20:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah I worked at an allpet HQ that required us to come over to their house for a pet owner "interview" as well as giving them a $300 store deposit to buy essentials (pure bred puppies were going for $1500). It sounds a bit over board, unless you work at a shelter and realise how many animals are quickly brought back because the owners truly had no idea what they got themselves into. Sheltors are left throwing pets at people (and often in the trash..) while pet mills continue making money because people would rather have an 8 week old rather an 8 month old pet. But who am I to control what pets people have? OK my rant is over
hedic · 3 points · Posted at 02:05:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have always thought that there should be shelters/butchers. It seems a waste of meat knowing how many animals they kill anyway.
MYTBUSTOR · 2 points · Posted at 03:20:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like that mentality is a little too matrixie for people to handle it.
alawa · 0 points · Posted at 14:52:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Couldn't you defend slavery saying that?
SnuggleBunni69 · 8 points · Posted at 00:26:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten dog in Asia. Really not bad.
reerg · 10 points · Posted at 01:01:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sounds fucking delicious. I'm not opposed to the concept but something tells me the dog meat industry in Asia is a pretty shitty industry.
Tatortot15 · 7 points · Posted at 01:29:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It is a very shitty industry. You can pretty much guarantee that whatever animal you eat, especially small ones like dogs and cats, were treated horrifically in life and during death.
Aquadian · 2 points · Posted at 01:53:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Source?
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 02:01:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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hurtsdonut_ · 2 points · Posted at 02:41:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I believe it was on either No Reservations or Bizarre Foods where a tribe in Africa raises dogs as pretty much pets and then one day they are dinner.
Seelenkuchen · 1 points · Posted at 08:18:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Apart from it being dogs this isn't that uncommon in more rural and agricultural areas. I mean, rabbits are cute,jumpy,cuddly and a good eating.
Forever_Awkward · 1 points · Posted at 09:28:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's not some kind of unusual or exotic trait. It's pretty much the norm for people who farm meat.
reerg · 1 points · Posted at 02:18:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbfakStnlZk
Here's a video that I haven't watched and is probably horrible.
Tatortot15 · 0 points · Posted at 02:07:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You want a source because you don't think it's true. The few sources that exist are undercover footage that's hard to get a hold of. These companies doing this don't openly broadcast their practices.
Like what this other fella said, if the way animals being treated here are that bad, a place that supposedly has animal cruelty laws for farm animal, imagine how bad it is in s country where there is zero regulations.
Aquadian · 2 points · Posted at 03:00:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I don't ask for a source because I don't believe you, I ask for a source so you can back up your hard claim. Unless you can tell me how you've personally seen these circumstances or somehow have other proof, speculation is all it is. You can't "pretty much guarantee" anything, be it for small animals or otherwise. I have no problem with speculation, hell I'd speculate a huge amount of animals raised for slaughter in China are treated inhumanely as well. However I can't "pretty much guarantee" anything because I have no evidence.
Tatortot15 · 2 points · Posted at 03:11:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I can understand that. Awhile back I saw several pieces of footage of foxes and dogs being skinned alive. The source claimed it to be an Asian fur manufacturer. There were several other videos. One of metal crates of cats used for meat being thrown off a loading truck. Their limbs were twisted. It was extremely hard to watch, but I think it's important to face the reality of some animal products.
I wish I could find the videos again, but it wasn't up for very long.
StillLetto · 1 points · Posted at 21:29:06 on May 28, 2016 · (Permalink)
sooo you have no source?
Tatortot15 · 1 points · Posted at 18:06:50 on May 29, 2016 · (Permalink)
I guess you didn't read it? No. The videos aren't on live leak anymore. They are probably still on the internet somewhere, but I'm not going to search high and low for them to prove something very believable. Feel free to do your own research if you are that interested in it.
chaogomu · 2 points · Posted at 02:48:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's good for them that they don't usually live all that long.
wait for the puppies to wean and then maybe a week or so more then they're about ready.It's same concept with veal.
In a kind of sick, twisted way, animals eaten that are young live almost completely cruelty free lives (as short as they are) because it's generally cheaper that way.
Tatortot15 · 1 points · Posted at 02:52:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I can agree with that, but not the almost humane part. Some of the worst abuse happens in the first few weeks of life. But I'll agree that it's better to live a short life of misery than a long one.
chaogomu · 2 points · Posted at 03:00:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
there's a large difference between cruelty free and humane.
Cruelty free is not beating you every day.
Humane implies a little bit more than a lack sadism.
Tatortot15 · 1 points · Posted at 03:07:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's very true.
Ask_me_about_adykfor · 1 points · Posted at 04:02:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just curious, why do you think small animals are treated worse than bigger ones?
Tatortot15 · 2 points · Posted at 13:31:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's easier to confine them to a smaller space than big animals. You can fit dozens in a small cage (chickens) if you cram them together. They usually require "less maintenance" by the factories standard. That's not always the case, don't get me wrong.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:17:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
korean dog slaughterhouses have given more than 1 of my friends night terrors just because of the sounds emitted from the warehouses. String them up by their rear paws, slit their throat, onto the next. Its brutal
DevinTheGrand · 2 points · Posted at 02:59:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I doubt the dog meat industry in Asia is worse than the chicken meat industry in Asia, so go for it.
Cha-Le-Gai · 2 points · Posted at 01:19:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not a fan of dog or cat meat. But I've eaten just about any common animals out there, and some exotic ones. So I wouldn't eat cat or dog because I'm not a fan of the feel, but the same could be said about snakes, alligator, and certain birds or rodents. Everything is a possible dinner, or at least snack.
vandoh · 1 points · Posted at 05:22:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
they skin animals alive
vandoh · 1 points · Posted at 05:21:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thats what ive head from travelers
TheCatWar · -1 points · Posted at 01:00:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If you eat a lot of Asian food you've probably eaten dog in the United States.
is-that-a-thing-now · 1 points · Posted at 00:30:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So crawfish and crabs are out?
You could argue killing a crab first, but it is hard to do with hundreds of crawfish/dozens of crabs.
krackbaby · 2 points · Posted at 01:02:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I know how to kill the crab
manly_lumberjack · 2 points · Posted at 01:20:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You don't say
is-that-a-thing-now · 1 points · Posted at 01:08:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Only works on softshell crabs.
TheWrongHat · 1 points · Posted at 04:26:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Humans are animals too.
Even ignoring humans though, you'd really kill and eat an otherwise happy and healthy Chimpanzee? Dolphin? Bonobo?
I don't think you're really thinking this through.
MYTBUSTOR · 1 points · Posted at 08:19:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
When it comes down to it humans are on top of the food chain. IMHO as long as there is no suffering and as long as the species is not endangered, I don't have a problem with the fundamentals of killing an intelligent animal for food. I do think it's a waste of life if it's for sport, but if you get a few meals out of it, it's not a complete waste.
TheWrongHat · 1 points · Posted at 09:24:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So.... you're okay with murdering and eating a human for food, so long as they don't suffer and we aren't endangered?
If not, then what if Neanderthals were still around? Or Australopithecines?
MYTBUSTOR · 1 points · Posted at 09:34:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's all what ifs at that point. I'm talking about wild game, if you want to twist it and say you could hunt humans as well, it's not exactly making a point. Cannibalism/murder is obviously something entirely different, also eating a retarded version of ourselves is no better of a picture and completely irrelevant. But there's even some cultures (endocannibalism) that eat their relatives/friends once they pass away. You know what? I say fuck it, allow it because it's their bodies, their culture and a world away from what I'm doing/what concerns me. It's all so subjective.
TheWrongHat · 1 points · Posted at 10:10:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My point is it's hard to find a good place to draw a line, and there are plenty of relatively intelligent animals that I think it's wrong to kill.
You do recognise that there's a difference between killing a Chimpanzee for example, and killing a clam, right?
Don't accuse me of twisting things though, you're the one avoiding the difficult questions.
MYTBUSTOR · 1 points · Posted at 10:26:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thought I was pretty direct the first time, but I'll try again. I have no problem with people killing intelligent wild life as long as they don't torture it and it's not endangered. I think it's more about you not accepting it.
TheWrongHat · 1 points · Posted at 10:56:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because that's incredibly stupid and immoral, and you avoided my question about humans.
You said you'd eat someone that 'passed away', but didn't say whether you'd murder someone and eat them.
I'd assume you wouldn’t, but I can't say for sure given your other answers.
So, would you murder and eat a Neanderthal, but not a human? What's the difference? What about an Australopithecine? If no, they why would you murder and eat a Chimp?
You still haven't articulated where you draw the line at all.
free_beer · 1 points · Posted at 04:46:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So no lobster then.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:25:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I agree. I wish people would think more about quality of life over sanctity of death.
alamuki · 1 points · Posted at 00:06:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So lobster is out? That's a shame, I love me some lobster.
ShadyG · 5 points · Posted at 00:16:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Knife through the brainstem, instant kill. Then cook.
MYTBUSTOR · 3 points · Posted at 00:13:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Meat that comes from animals that were under duress while being killed is tough. You want unsuspecting lobsters for tender meat, not ones grasping to get out a pot before they go.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 00:29:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't know why you were downvoted. It's called PSE meat (pale, soft, exudative) and it occurs when the PH in the meat is off due to lactic acid buildup caused by short term stress before slaughter. It ruins the meat quality. But please sheeple keep believing we are mean and torture animals for fun before we kill them.
extracanadian · 0 points · Posted at 00:26:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
myth
MYTBUSTOR · 2 points · Posted at 00:40:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Ever had venison from a deer that was killed with an unclean shot compared to one that immediately died? It's why hunters go for the heart and shoulder. Best case scenario the heart stops pumping, worst case you still hit them in the shoulder so they can't run away, making it easier for you to end the torment fast.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:27:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But that's best way to eat Lobster.
PM_ME_HOT_DADS · 2 points · Posted at 00:52:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Don't forget to remove the shit sack
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:14:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
For lobster I would agree. I don't tend to take it out of shrimp or crawfish though, unless it is near bursting full. Too much trouble otherwise and adds a bit of extra flavor.
XVengeanceX · 1 points · Posted at 03:50:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I personally don't care if the animal died painlessly or not. Food is food, caring about lesser creatures seems pointless to me.
Conotor · 0 points · Posted at 02:09:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't see how pain is that significant. If you were going to be killed when you had decades of healthy life left otherwise, would you be more worried about weather it took 0.5 second or 10 second, or would you be more worried about not living? Why would animals judge that differently?
TheGreatSzalam · 2 points · Posted at 03:42:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would prefer it to be painless, thank you.
Conotor · 1 points · Posted at 13:18:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Really? Like you would not be ok with a minute of pain to have a reasonable chance of avoiding it and living another day?
I get that no one likes pain, but the point is that being killed is probably worse than the pain of being killed, so I don't get why people would care about pain but not death.
TheGreatSzalam · 1 points · Posted at 15:53:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd rather live, but if I must go, let's do it fast.
Cosmocalypse · 0 points · Posted at 02:30:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, even though the pig is still squealing and gurgling as it is hanging by its back legs getting its throat slit, I hear it's a "painless death" so it's totally OK to kill it.
MYTBUSTOR · 3 points · Posted at 03:07:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Did I miss something? Only third world countries and hick farmers slit animals throats for slaughter, that's been out of commercial farming for quite some time. I'm not saying the current way pigs are "stunned" is any better, there's been research done that brings up the real possibility many of them are still conscious when they are put into scalding tanks to soften their skin, basically going the same way lobsters do. Many private farmers have a tool called a bolt gun that shoots a piston out of the end with a blank, they set it up against the animals head and it's basically an instant headshot, it's just too slow for mass production (average commercial farm kills 1k pigs per hour).
Cosmocalypse · 1 points · Posted at 12:48:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Go on YouTube and watch 'Earthlings'. That's all I have to say about it. Those aren't third world countries in that video. Those are the largest slaughterhouses in the US.
AdmiralSkippy · 20 points · Posted at 00:07:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've never had horse or rabbit but I wouldn't say no to try it.
The stupidest thing about this billboard is that all the animals until the rabbit are just dogs and cats. I guess they needed to fill the space.
Also, some people have pigs as pets.
Crazydutch18 · 2 points · Posted at 01:44:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is actually quite good. The horse meat my parents would get from Holland was always thinly sliced and salted well, it was almost like prosciutto but much darker in colour. It was an every day item in my fridge growing up as my parents are from Holland and the dutch happen to love it.
Grimmner · 3 points · Posted at 01:37:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had a pet pig a couple of times growing up. One was named Porkchop, one was named Ham. I think there was even one called Bacon. And they tasted as good as they were named.
Also helped raise a cow called Hamburger head.
nothing_clever · 1 points · Posted at 03:27:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whoa, I read the sign from right to left.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 07:08:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse was a bit disappointing. Sweet and not that tasty as the legend carries.
Rabbit is excellent, but there isn't much meat on the corpse.
jbippy1 · 1 points · Posted at 15:43:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So eat multiple rabbits. There will never be a shortage. They breed like rabbits.
relayrider · 1 points · Posted at 17:42:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
depends on the rabbit! there are lots of giant rabbits in the Benelux countries
notanartmajor · 1 points · Posted at 14:34:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbits taste great, and they can be major douchebags when they're alive.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:19:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pigs are really clever too- people go on about not eating dogs because or cats because they think they're clever, but they're pretty dim (cats especially) relative to pigs.
Aema · 26 points · Posted at 23:20:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, this billboard makes me wonder if I should reevaluate my stance on horse...
skoolhouserock · 1 points · Posted at 04:16:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This had better be a kung fu joke
dawninghorror · 1 points · Posted at 01:35:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've had horse. Not really worth it. Very tough. Of course, it was served raw, it might be different if you grill it...
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 04:30:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bad cut by the sound of it.
ablino_rhino · 10 points · Posted at 23:31:08 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
When I was a kid my mom would tell me we were eating chicken when we were actually eating rabbit. I was a teenager before I realized that chickens don't have four legs.
Michamus · 15 points · Posted at 23:22:09 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I like how they include 3 breeds of cat and 4 breeds of dog, but don't show the various breeds of cows, chickens, ducks, pigs. Sure, they show a dairy cow, but we don't eat dairy cows until they're too old to produce milk.
LikeWolvesDo · 7 points · Posted at 03:22:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And even then we mostly feed them do our dogs...
Valdrax · 19 points · Posted at 22:26:08 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://theoatmeal.com/story/eat_horses
Mwunsu · 14 points · Posted at 21:04:41 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
My foreign friend says dog isnt too bad either.
hatgineer · 50 points · Posted at 23:05:22 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
They are all technically edible (and probably all delicious). The line is drawn by culture, but the board obviously wants you to believe it is drawn by morals. It's important to realize culture and morals are not the same things. Failing that just makes you sound elitist, like the board.
BarrySands · 29 points · Posted at 01:46:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think your comment misses its point, which is actually remarkably similar to yours. The line, you are quite right to say, is drawn by culture; there isn't really any logic to it. It seems in most cases it is an imprint of prehistoric necessity or preference, rather than any kind of valid distinction. I'd say that this is what the advert wants you to think about (and presumably its author prefers that you conclude from this that none of those animals should be eaten, as opposed to the alternative that all of them should).
ValAichi · 10 points · Posted at 02:57:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Honestly, all these sorts of things have done is convinced me that all animals should be eaten.
Never tried dog or cat, but if I was in a region that provided them I might.
Sir_Floating_Anchor · 2 points · Posted at 03:10:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thats better than the "i love all animals" stance imo. The only difference between you and me now is how i dont agree with the suckish lives they have to go through and the unsustainability of the meat industry as the human population grows (especially environmentally.)
Add human to the list too.
ShaxAjax · 3 points · Posted at 03:38:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Don't.
Cannibalism gives you some crazy sicknasty diseases.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 06:09:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't it generally bad to eat too much of a top of the food chain animal in general though? I could be wrong, but isn't there a lot of crap that doesn't get filtered out, and the further up the chain you are, the more condensed it gets in your system?
I may just be spouting some old wives tale bs I heard somewhere, but I would like to be set right if it is incorrect.
ShaxAjax · 4 points · Posted at 08:53:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nah concentration does happen.
It's more about mass consumed (by all members of the food chain leading to you) than being top of the chain though, if I understand it correctly.
Like, you have an opossum eaten by a carnivorous dog, who'll go on to consume say 50t of biomass over his lifetime. the thing is, multiply that by the 5t~ of biomass [all the things he's eaten] have eaten, and now you're looking at 250t of biomass vs 10t of biomass from a chicken, or something like that.
Point being, Whales are supposedly not too hot to eat not because they're top of the food chain but because they manage to rack up one hell of a biomass consumption total even by themselves.
Biomass here is sort of a catchall for critters/plants eaten, and the important thing is you can expect a certain amount of unfilterables per quota of biomass. Since those stick around unlike the rest, the dog's got 25x as much bad shit hanging around in his meat as the chicken, rather than the expected 5x just from how much they eat directly.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 09:07:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thank you for writing it out so plainly. I actually understand the concept a hell of a lot better now. I am also glad to know that at least my thoughts were in the right direction, just not quite on the mark.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:21:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Only if you eat brain matter that's infected with Kuru/ Creutzfeldt jakob disease.
You don't just magically get ill from it.
That doesn't take in to account the info from your own comment on concentrations of stuff in predators however, which is pretty interesting. You can get the same illness from infected cattle, there was a big scare about it in the UK in the 90s.
loggerit · 1 points · Posted at 05:43:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If meat wasn't indirectly subsidised and the environmental costs not externalised, the resulting realistic prices would bring consumption down to sustainable levels. And there wouldn't be much rejoicing anymore
chaogomu · 3 points · Posted at 02:54:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
An important note with dog (and any predator really) do not eat the liver, not even with fava beans.
Most predators have build ups of Vitamin A. In large doses Vitamin A will kill you, painfully.
hatgineer · 1 points · Posted at 03:14:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I knew about overeating rabbit meat, but not this. Good to know.
chaogomu · 2 points · Posted at 14:20:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
over eating rabbit meat is called rabbit starvation. It's also bad, but can be fixed by eating other things along with the rabbit, like large amounts of starches and veggies, basically a good rabbit stew.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 23:55:55 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
There is also the co-evolution argument for dogs and cats
lizardlike · 15 points · Posted at 00:46:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Which could also be made for pigs and cows to be honest. Nothing like the ones we have ever existed before we selectively bred them for domestication (and optimum tastiness)
hedic · 4 points · Posted at 02:12:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wonder what a food bred dog would look like.
Nukethepandas · 2 points · Posted at 02:50:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or dairy dogs.
_Autumn_Wind · 0 points · Posted at 02:07:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Man, pigs are smart and piglets will bond with you. Finding that out and seeing them in action made me not want to eat pork anymore. Wild boars and giant hogs can be massive assholes though.
hatgineer · -1 points · Posted at 03:32:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Then don't read this post if you want to keep eating chicken.
_Autumn_Wind · 4 points · Posted at 03:57:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nah, I've been around chickens. Dumb as fuck. My problem with chicken are all those horrid industrialized farms where they're treated like shit
IcyOrio · 1 points · Posted at 01:05:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like that might be similar to my way of thinking when it comes to eating animals. Posted above.^
owlbrain · 1 points · Posted at 00:37:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe for dogs. I'm pretty sure the alien creatures we know as cats haven't evolved during the time they've ruled earth.
zdiggler · 2 points · Posted at 03:17:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
ALF eats cats.
GoodHunter · 2 points · Posted at 01:31:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Seriously, +1 for you. People saying others are horrible for eating a certain animal are just fucking stupid. By that logic, we're horrible too because we eat beef as cows are sacred animals in India.
Shitgenstein · 2 points · Posted at 16:44:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why can't we be horrible for eating cows?
GoodHunter · 1 points · Posted at 18:13:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well I sure as don't feel horrible. I'll eat any animal I please
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 19:59:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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GoodHunter · 1 points · Posted at 20:26:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not really making an argument, just saying I couldn't give a single fuck
Shitgenstein · 3 points · Posted at 20:45:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Huh, that sounds like something a horrible person would say.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:56:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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GoodHunter · 1 points · Posted at 00:15:54 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't really mind. I found that whatever argument you put up, people will never change their mind about such things. Especially on Reddit. So I chose to not give a fuck
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:22:13 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
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GoodHunter · 0 points · Posted at 00:41:35 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have my reasons, I'm choosing not to bother explaining it. Especially to people on Reddit.
zdiggler · 1 points · Posted at 03:17:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We don't eat animals that also eat meat.
tolderoll156 · 1 points · Posted at 15:00:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pork, bear, chickens...
Trinitykill · -3 points · Posted at 23:48:18 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well, there is somewhat of a moral line when it comes to eating endangered species.
But also eating dog is considered wrong because it's not good for us due to their diet being carnivorous
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 23:56:03 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Citation needed
SavvySillybug · 4 points · Posted at 00:08:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
-/u/Trinitykill
Trinitykill · 0 points · Posted at 00:15:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm on my.phone at the moment but isn't it something to do with their carnivorous diet? Like how you can eat beef almost completely raw because cows eat only grass whereas pork has to be cooked and can still make you I'll because pigs are omnivores.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 00:18:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dogs are omnivores.
ganglepuss420 · 1 points · Posted at 01:46:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
actually the thing you (used) to get from eating raw pork- Trichinosis, Hasnt been an issue in North america for a very long time. Technically you can eat pork raw and be fine, its just pretty gross thing to do.
TylerBourbon · 26 points · Posted at 22:23:58 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I heard it can be kind of ruff.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 01:32:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Try removing the collar before cooking
alamuki · 3 points · Posted at 00:07:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pretty much tastes like pork. Not too bad dipped in Korean BBQ sauce and cooked at your table. 7/10, would eat again if offered, wouldn't order myself.
Amnerika · 1 points · Posted at 00:49:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Apparently people also taste like pork, but more "harsh". Of course I am only speaking from a thing I read about Armin Meiwes
Seakawn · 1 points · Posted at 03:01:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wouldn't we taste like other primates? So do monkeys and apes taste like a harsh pork, too?
Amnerika · 1 points · Posted at 03:05:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not sure if we would. I know our skin is similar to pig skin and that might have something to do with the similarities but I am not entirely sure.
Cunt_zapper · 1 points · Posted at 00:03:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've never tasted it, but I have a friend who just wolfs it down whenever he gets the chance.
extracanadian · 2 points · Posted at 00:27:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
"I say we eat THAT dog"
CoolStoryBro_Fairy · 7 points · Posted at 23:29:50 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I agree, i'd swap rabbit and horse and draw the line one back
Janus408 · 4 points · Posted at 23:38:23 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, I vote +2 to the left. Horse is good too.
Snapthepigeon · 2 points · Posted at 23:38:03 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tastes like chicken
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:39:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Same texture, better flavour
Wood_Warden · 2 points · Posted at 01:09:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit has a unique taste that no other meat (I've tried) has. It makes amazing soups and broths. Just the smell of it is intoxicating to me.
God damnit.. off to the farm I go.
extracanadian · 1 points · Posted at 00:24:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The French like eating horse. I'll give it a shot.
beancounter2885 · 1 points · Posted at 00:30:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So's horse.
askmeaboutmysciatica · 1 points · Posted at 00:34:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I tried rabbit for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was really disappointed. It seemed like white meat chicken without the flavor. However, I did prepare it myself (braised with beer, thyme, and onions) and I'm sure that many more experienced chefs could have done more with it.
Shabba-Doo · 1 points · Posted at 00:34:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not as tasty as the front left hoof of a horse. Mmmm, mmm, thems good eats.
Not the rest of it, though. The other 95% is pet, you monster.
jasongnc · 1 points · Posted at 00:34:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
yeah, the rabbit should be to the right of the horse.
Tunaluna · 1 points · Posted at 00:42:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And horses are close enough to deer which is damn good as well. I would throw them both in the pot so to speak.
DukeofPoundtown · 1 points · Posted at 00:43:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Came here to say this. Dog isn't terrible either if you are in the right culture.
Butthole__Pleasures · 1 points · Posted at 00:46:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So is horse
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:50:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit is also a loyal and cuddly companion.
jwdjr2004 · 1 points · Posted at 00:56:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit goes on other side of horse though
idlefritz · 1 points · Posted at 00:59:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, no way horse beats rabbit in tastiness unless you're counting dog food.
idma · 1 points · Posted at 00:59:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
tried dog. its not half bad. Rabbit is pretty damn awesome when done right
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:03:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hells yeah. If you're ever in Portland head to Katchka for their braised rabbit in clay pot. You'll order an entire loaf of bread to sop up the braising liquid when you're done and hate yourself for hours after ... but it's so worth it.
SalmonDoctor · 1 points · Posted at 01:10:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse too.
snakesoup88 · 1 points · Posted at 01:13:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Snake is missing
Ocdar · 1 points · Posted at 01:14:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, but kids eat paste as well, so the order could go either way.
k0uch · 1 points · Posted at 01:14:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Some of it is. Cotton tails are a treat, jackrabbits are terrible.
Side note, Iv had horse before, very lean and tasty meat. 9/10 would eat again. I feel like I should mention I'm a Texan who has owned horses
Erutious · 1 points · Posted at 01:20:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You should try horse. It ain't bad if it's done right
Goodguystalker · 1 points · Posted at 01:29:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fucking delicious. It had become a sort of tradition to have fresh rabbit and rabbit stew on Thanksgiving. Also I've only had the opportunity to taste it once, but horse is really tasty as well. There are very few animals I wouldn't try at least once
TinyB33 · 1 points · Posted at 01:31:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, dude, rabbit definitely be to the right of horsey
Papajon87 · 1 points · Posted at 01:34:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes they are
PandaCodeRed · 1 points · Posted at 01:36:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
As is horse...
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:45:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So is everything. Thats the point. Can you imagine how good fried baby would be? Like tender veal pork bacon.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:55:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
dont knock horse 'till you tried it
shillkilla · 1 points · Posted at 02:06:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Considering how fast they reproduce why don't we farm rabbits for meat like we do chicken? Seems like a whole avenue has been ignored.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:10:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
so is horse.
schwagnificent · 1 points · Posted at 02:14:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah I'd move the line over to include rabbit. I'm not that excited about eating horse, but other countries eat it, how bad could it be? Horse and rabbit stew has got to be tasty.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:17:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Came here to say switch the horse and the rabbit
CRISPR · 1 points · Posted at 02:41:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had a funny story. Acquaintance of mine was looking to buy a sheep for a traditional Kurbani slaughter. He found a family who were selling sheep. He came to a lovely American house, the young daughter opened the door, and he it was - her house pet they wanted to sell.
He said he changed his mind to buy. He found some Muslim farmer family later who sold him the Qurbani
socrates_scrotum · 1 points · Posted at 03:06:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had a rabbit for a pet, so not going there. And I don't see a sheep in the ad.
negative_four · 1 points · Posted at 04:18:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah but they're adorable
becomearobot · 1 points · Posted at 05:05:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Most Asian and Eastern European cultures have no problem eating horses.
IDoThingsOnWhims · 1 points · Posted at 05:07:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This would be more convincing if they didn't need to put 4 dogs and 3 cats on the left...
poprover · 1 points · Posted at 05:16:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fuck the cat and the horses too. Dog master race.
Cahnis · 1 points · Posted at 05:35:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It doesn't have much meat. It is not worth eating rabbits, cows on the other hand...
ThruPinholeStars · 1 points · Posted at 06:26:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah I'm like 2 over to the left. I'd give horse a shot.
YerrytheYanitor · 1 points · Posted at 07:37:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So is kangaroo.
uhaul26 · 1 points · Posted at 12:10:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Their is not an animal on that sign I have not eaten. Canned rabbit is so tasty.
joe_bank · 1 points · Posted at 17:04:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Asian food is good too so better move that line to the left
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:52:07 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Smeagol would beg to differ.
Roderickje · 1 points · Posted at 22:33:41 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is as well.
Cliffhanger_baby · 1 points · Posted at 23:01:12 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is also veru tasty. And it's leaner than beef. It's very tasty. Mmmmm
GamerKiwi · 1 points · Posted at 23:06:53 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've heard dog is delicious.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:56:26 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
They are young! They are tender and nice. Yes they are! Eat them. Eat them
stealing_thunder · 1 points · Posted at 00:15:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yup thats where my line is, I've had rabbit since I was little, and I've had horse meat. Now I'm hungry.
Grn_blt_primo · 1 points · Posted at 00:47:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It is also the most efficient at turning grains/grasses into protein. I will be raising meat rabbits in my backyard once my kids are old enough to do the chores.
gnarledwood · 0 points · Posted at 20:54:26 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Came to say that.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:00:18 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Some tomatoes, and nice, Crispy bacon.
Causality-wow · 0 points · Posted at 22:53:05 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit belongs squarely in the food category.
xiipaoc · 0 points · Posted at 22:21:50 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Meh. I really don't think so. It's usually too... white. Rabbit paté is great, though, but it's just like any other paté.
ipissonkarmapoints · 0 points · Posted at 22:31:13 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
and you get 4 lucky feet, that is like 4X the luck
FluffyUnicorns27 · 0 points · Posted at 22:57:01 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, can we switch the horse with the rabbit and move the line?
Tapoke · 1 points · Posted at 00:04:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse meat is good, too.
cyberst0rm · 0 points · Posted at 23:19:01 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
yeah, rabbits shouldn't be behind horses. That's weird.
QuickStopRandal · 0 points · Posted at 23:49:27 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, why the fuck is the horse closer to being food? Is PETA both crazy and retarded? Don't answer that, we already know, but still.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:23:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well some companies have been known to sneak in horse meat into their beef.
tomalator · 0 points · Posted at 00:33:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, but I wouldn't eat horse
spays_marine · -1 points · Posted at 23:33:16 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
It is, but apparently also an empty food. If you had nothing but rabbit to eat in the wilderness, you'd die from malnutrition after a few weeks.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation
ELEMENTALITYNES · 463 points · Posted at 21:32:29 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Original post from BPT: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/4krfii/speak_for_yourself_bit/
Charod48 · 90 points · Posted at 00:40:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wow, he literally just cut off the punchline from the picture and used it has his title.
[deleted] · 128 points · Posted at 00:37:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Posted 23 hours ago? Jesus Christ /r/funny, you can't even wait a single day.
NoShameInternets · 50 points · Posted at 00:57:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dude, it's usually a 2-3 hour difference between the source and /r/funny. 23 hours is borderline polite.
redbull209 · 7 points · Posted at 01:27:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's exactly what I thought
FuckOffINeedToStudy · 0 points · Posted at 06:12:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
x/posts are valid, especially from a nondefault sub. Probably should have mentioned that in the title though.
alt-ctrl-del · 9 points · Posted at 00:50:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And the next comment is basically the same as well
The_Rolling_Stone · 1 points · Posted at 05:53:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And that thread is similar too. I got some deja vu shit going on
Icil · 56 points · Posted at 00:15:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
White people take everything. They took Tina Turner, they took Michael Jackson, they took James Brown (they gave him back though).
-- Paul Mooney
ukiyoe · 24 points · Posted at 00:23:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
"They're takin' our meeeemes"
pepesilvia9797 · 3 points · Posted at 01:51:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Another relevant Chappelle Show skit...the Racial Draft
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:06:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If you think /r/blackpeopletwitter is not majority white then you live in a fantasy world.
askmeaboutmysciatica · 6 points · Posted at 00:36:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't get it
bewk · 8 points · Posted at 02:04:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They took him, then gave him back. I hope that clarifies things.
TheLexDude · 1 points · Posted at 00:32:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
After Rick James/Tyrone Bigums/Prince, had to be best skit.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:50:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The Toros stole their routine from The Clovers.
maxstolfe · 18 points · Posted at 01:47:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fuck yourself /u/Ikidware
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 06:11:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 17:50:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
r/iamverysmart will not go hungry today
t0xic4ttraction · 1 points · Posted at 06:08:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not even posted as a cross post. What a guy.
Tanukigat · -17 points · Posted at 22:54:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Proving the only difference between the two subs is some racist commentary.
DubTeeDub · 10 points · Posted at 23:07:13 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Just proves that the post there are humorous. But please tell me more about the racist commentary
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 00:32:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The similarity between the two is that they're will always be salty white people.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 00:56:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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DVteCrazy_UVteS-hole · 1 points · Posted at 03:40:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ohoo.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:53:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The whole mod team are racist white people lol
0876 · 0 points · Posted at 04:01:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Which was stolen from twitter user @Guzzie_. Usually you'd expect someone to give credit to the original creator...
stops_to_think · 356 points · Posted at 21:26:49 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
We don't eat predators on a large scale because it's just incredibly inefficient (energy wise) to raise animals to feed to animals to eat, when you could just cut out the middle man and eat the first set of animals you raised. Carnivores are much less suited as livestock than herbavores for this reason, so when they're domesticated it tends to be for the purposes of companion/service/work animals.
Horses (while not a complete exception) have both practical and hobby uses beyond just eating, and that's really what keeps them off the chopping block for the most part. Other traditionally food animals are useful in other ways as well, but not so useful that we'd avoid eating them altogether.
SuurSieni · 153 points · Posted at 21:55:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Another reason not to eat carnivores is a process called biomagnification, due to which certain substances (e.g. some toxic chemicals, heavy metals) tend to appear in higher concentrations in higher trophic levels.
stefantalpalaru · 67 points · Posted at 23:48:06 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's also the much higher risk of getting parasites from a carnivore or an omnivore.
ubspirit · -6 points · Posted at 01:00:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's why you cool the food, dope.
ubspirit · -6 points · Posted at 01:00:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's why you cook meat, dope.
stefantalpalaru · 7 points · Posted at 01:05:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We don't want to cook our steaks to a rubbery "well done", which is what's needed to make sure the parasites are all dead.
tastyscavenger · 2 points · Posted at 02:56:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I just spit the parasites out when I am eating.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 03:59:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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ubspirit · 1 points · Posted at 04:55:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You don't actually gain caloric value from cooking meat. If anything you lose it.
Gitmaw888 · 24 points · Posted at 00:09:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tuna is a good example of this! It has quite a high concentration of mercury.
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 00:32:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But raw tuna is sooo good. It melts in your mouth with a little soy and a tbsp of wasabi.
Jmjonkman · 34 points · Posted at 00:47:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
A whole tablespoon?
Aethermancer · 45 points · Posted at 00:59:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
He didn't say how much tuna. Maybe he is the reason they are in decline.
ice_nt · 2 points · Posted at 09:46:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
"It melts your mouth" FTFY
Johnny_Dev · 1 points · Posted at 01:01:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rule of thumb from what I've read would be don't exceed a can of light tuna every other day or tuna sushi once or twice a week. Tuna has 20 times the mercury concentration of salmon, which in my opinion, is even "meltier". So, go crazy on salmon sushi. I believe you'll be sending it back the way it came from before you can eat enough to get mercury poisoning from salmon.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 00:33:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They also taste different. I duck hunt and diving ducks that eat fish, such as a Hooded Merganser tastes much different (nasty) than a puddle duck like a mallard or a shoveler
sweet_tea_pdx · 2 points · Posted at 00:59:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Plus you know, they will try and eat you
TopographicOceans · 86 points · Posted at 22:04:44 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Consider too that the idea of raising herbivores for food (prior to that, hunting them) was so that they can turn things we can't eat (grass, leaves, etc) into things we can eat (meat and milk).
pryoslice · 7 points · Posted at 02:11:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So, mostly corn these days.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:23:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wheat is the number 1 crop grown worldwide and is a grass. Corn is also a grass. Just FYI.
pryoslice · 3 points · Posted at 10:11:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Both are things we can eat, to counter the statement above.
zdiggler · 4 points · Posted at 03:24:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Meat eaters are very expensive to keep and their shit stinks and filthy.
jobbarsmart · 3 points · Posted at 05:30:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That might have been the idea and it was probably true at some time. But today that's not really true in the majority of cases. A third of all crops gown is used to feed livestock.
SqueegeeDinoToy · 9 points · Posted at 02:03:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thank you for blowing my mind.
positive_electron42 · 1 points · Posted at 05:06:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My second favorite body part to be blown.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:49:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lol wut? Humans can eat those things no problem.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:59:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I mean, technically we can eat anything but try eating just grass for even two days and see how you feel. Human stomachs can't break down and digest grass so you'll just get really sick and suffer malnutrition since you're not getting the nutrients you need from digesting the grass
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:45:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You'll also get sick and malnourished if the only thing you ever eat is cow. There isn't any one food item capable of fulfilling all your nutritional requirements, that's not really a sufficient critique of eating or not eating something.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 16:20:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah but you can digest cow
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:22:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You can also digest grasses. Ever eat bread?
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 06:26:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We can't digest cellulose, not grasses specifically. So, we also can't digest wood.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:25:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We can eat them, but we can't digest cellulose. Ruminants can, hence the four stomachs. You need to catch up on your basic human biology.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:56:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We can't digest cellulose but we can still break down and absorb nutritional contents from other portions of the grass. Though I was more of laughing at the concept that we can't eat leaves because people eat lettuce all the time. Also, this thing called wheat which is type a grass is part the largest food group we eat that all the time.
Bonus: Before you say "oh well we can't eat it raw therefore it's still better to eat the cow" Keep in mind we don't eat cows raw either. So whether or not something can be eaten raw isn't really a critique of it's digestibility compared to the digestibility of a cow.
Valdrax · 27 points · Posted at 22:17:26 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dogs are omnivores and not obligate carnivores, and cultures that ate dogs often fed them a vegetarian diet plus table scraps. Examples include Hawaiian poi dogs and some of the Mexican hairless breeds.
This versatility of diet is actually one reason why dried dog food contains a greater amount of grain content than cat food. They can handle it, while cats can't, and it's much cheaper. It's probably a product of their earlier domestication and a greater reliance on human-provided food.
[deleted] · 12 points · Posted at 00:45:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well dogs aren't obligated carnivores, meaning their bodies retain the ability to turn a lot of amino acids and vitamin A into their usable states. Now obligated carnivores such as cats and dolphins have lost this ability and require the formed amino acids, vitamins, and oils from other animals, and also have shortened digestive tracts that can struggle to break down plant matter. One of the many reasons to not feed your pet dolphin your dog food. It will miss out on several important dietary needs and can lead to serious health consequences.
stops_to_think · 20 points · Posted at 00:25:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dogs are now omnivores, correct, but wolves are considerably less flexible, and it stands to reason that dogs became more omnivorous as a result of their co-evolution with humans. By the time they were capable of subsisting on vegetarian diets, their role had been more or less cemented.
zdiggler · 3 points · Posted at 03:26:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Back in country we only feed our dogs meat.. sometime cooked.. sometime raw. sometime rice and noodles.
Our cat eats fish and meat only as well. The cat won't even touch any rice or anything.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 04:40:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Borat? Is that you?
[deleted] · 22 points · Posted at 01:15:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's also incredibly inefficient energy wise to raise any sort of animals for food because we need to grow all of the plants they eat during their life time as well as the animals themselves. Animal farming, especially free-range farming is the primary contributor to deforestation and one of the largest contributors to greenhouse gases on the planet. You could cut out the middle man and just eat plants.
Under what definition is that efficient? It's not even sustainable.
stops_to_think · 21 points · Posted at 02:59:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Uh, I never said raising herbivorous livestock was efficient, just that it was more efficient than raising carnivorous livestock.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:00:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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shoe788 · 0 points · Posted at 03:01:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But now you're drawing more lines using efficiency as your scale
stops_to_think · 8 points · Posted at 03:06:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not when the question is "when it pertains to animals, how do we determine which are food and which are pets" obviously the answer isn't absolute, but it's also rooted heavily in history. It's not just a comment on contemporary farming practices or logical boundaries, it's about what our ancestors decided the animal was useful for and why.
klethra · 6 points · Posted at 01:40:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is true, and crop rotation can be used to make sure the soil maintains the right minerals (especially nitrogen). That being said, grasslands need ruminants to be sustained.
HoneyBucketsOfOats · 1 points · Posted at 02:13:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or you could let grazing animals turn inedible grass into tasty steaks.
wilderthanu93 · 5 points · Posted at 21:39:08 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Plus Elmer's Glue
someguy945 · 2 points · Posted at 00:40:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
No it's much simpler. If horses tasted good, we would eat them. They don't taste good, so we don't eat them.
iheartgiraffe · 4 points · Posted at 03:16:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is pretty common in Quebec, Canada. Apparently it's pretty lean and high in protein.
stops_to_think · 3 points · Posted at 00:42:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Having never tried horse, I couldn't speak to that.
Jimmni · 3 points · Posted at 12:35:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whole heap of countries eat horse and think it's delicious. Most of the countries that don't don't eat it because they consider eating horse "weird," it has nothing to do with taste.
someguy945 · 1 points · Posted at 14:47:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Okay, but it's still ridiculous that the guy is saying we don't eat horses because they are useful.
If we wanted to eat them, we would eat them. If we also needed them to be useful, we would raise some for eating and some for being useful.
We may or may not eventually eat the useful ones, sort of like how dairy cows may or may not eventually be eaten.
zaphod777 · 1 points · Posted at 11:50:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is pretty damn good, we eat raw horse sashimi here in Japan. That shits expensive though.
mcSibiss · 1 points · Posted at 19:45:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I eat horse. It tastes great!
Aethermancer · 1 points · Posted at 00:57:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We should eat or process old horses. It's a shame that we killed all the abatoirs in the US. Now people abandon old horses because it costs money to dispose of an old horse.
SalmonDoctor · 1 points · Posted at 01:12:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Salmon and shortfin mako shark. Both are carnivores and they taste great.
stops_to_think · 1 points · Posted at 02:56:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And salmon farming is horrendously detrimental to the ocean's fish stock. Especially populations of anchovies, herring, and sardines.
I wasn't specific in my post, but I was mostly addressing why we perceive some domestic animals as food and others as pets. I mentioned it responses to other people, but I was focusing on just domestic animals, wild caught animals don't really conform to that definition, but none of those were included in the sign either. Salmon farming is more recent, but I wouldn't exactly call them domestic animals.
Regardless, you're right, they are an exception to the rule, but they are terribly terribly inefficient animals to farm (as opposed to other livestock, that are just really very inefficient).
I don't know if there are large scale farming operations for mako.
SalmonDoctor · 1 points · Posted at 12:48:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Salmon farming is some places based on fish protein, other places based on soy protein (where I work). But we're working to develop more sustainable feeds such as growing tunicates, algae and seaweed.
Salmon isn't as inefficient as land predators though. Being cold blooded, their metabolism makes them way more efficient than land animals. But compared to cod or similars, it's inefficient.
thr3sk · 0 points · Posted at 02:09:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Add tuna and swordfish to that list too. However I think you are missing the point - taste is irrelevant, eating a predator is extremely wasteful since humans could simply eat the initial prey item. Considering the massive environmental damage we are causing that needs to be a big factor in our dietary choices.
Kcoggin · 1 points · Posted at 01:43:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Energy wise...and the fact they too would wanna eat you.
tastyscavenger · 1 points · Posted at 02:55:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horses are incredibly inefficient at turning plants into horse meat, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't utilize some form of quantum digestion like a schrodingers gut.
iamjustyn · 1 points · Posted at 04:32:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's incredibly inefficient to raise animals of any kind for meat with the demand being what it is.
markender · 1 points · Posted at 04:52:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well said! Hey what's your perspective on humans not eating animal protiene?
stops_to_think · 1 points · Posted at 05:09:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm fine with people eating animals in principle, but practically speaking it's not very sustainable.
Like on a small scale, some people have some sheep that eat the grass on rocky hills that you could never cultivate crops on anyway, and they want to eat them? Sure. But not everyone can have a handful of sheep and a rocky hill. The livestock industry isn't sustainably managed, and it's not great for a number of other reasons; but I can't very well argue that the only people who should be allowed to eat meat are the people who raised the animals. I guess in my ideal world meat consumption would be reduced, largely for practical environmental reasons, but I don't object to meat consumption on ethical grounds.
markender · 1 points · Posted at 05:51:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I just ask because recently I had a conversation with a vegan and in the end my only defence was that I choose to still kill animals and eat their meat ,even though we can live (as well from what she thought) without it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:35:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This kind of supports the point of the billboard, we feel its wrong to eat those animals but not chickens because of conditioning not any sort of inherent moral issue.
stops_to_think · 1 points · Posted at 14:14:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, it's mostly down to historically which animals were best to eat, so it's almost entirely a socially conditioned response. That said, the billboard itself is making a moral argument here, which I don't think is a particularly strong position to take.
BabyDoll1994 · 1 points · Posted at 07:31:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wouldn't another reason be that carnivorous animals, at least the wild ones, have far less fat on them? I mean there's a lot of meat you can get off a cow. There can't possibly be that much meat that you can get from say a wolf. I'm sure it's possible but in the long run I'm sure our nomadic ancestors found it easier and more economic (in terms of how much meat is returned for the work) to hunt an elk or buffalo. Of course, maybe I'm wrong but I always thought that was the reason we ended up with the livestock we have.
stops_to_think · 1 points · Posted at 14:10:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I know predators also accumulate more toxins from their food, which will often make then unsuitable for consumption.
Jimmni · 1 points · Posted at 12:34:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wonder if the number of countries that eat horse (or would do so without stigma if more horses were available) is greater than or fewer than the number of countries that do not eat horse.
alawa · 1 points · Posted at 14:54:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Compared to eating plants, raising animals is incredibly inefficient.
the_choking_hazard · 1 points · Posted at 23:22:59 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tuna?
Kal_Sitrix · -1 points · Posted at 23:42:51 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
At one point sure it was efficient to eat anything, through technology and advancement we were able to make it more efficient by cutting it down mostly herbivores. We've come even farther now and really the meat and dairy industries are the least efficient sources of food. The 'most efficient' argument doesn't really work. The only real reason that people consume animal products is because they taste good to them. Literally no animal product are required for a healthy life yet we still raise living beings just to have billions of animals raped and slaughtered so we can get a nice oily slice of their corpse on our dinner tables because our temporary pleasure is worth the life, happiness and freedom of others
stops_to_think · 5 points · Posted at 00:36:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I should have perhaps clarified for meat. Of course the livestock industry isn't efficient, I'm just saying it would be doubly inefficient if we made a habit of eating carnivores, which is the main characteristic that divides food and pet animals (historically) besides generally being reasonably edible at all.
thcinc · -1 points · Posted at 00:08:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This human gets it. Thank you for making myself feel a little less alone around this place.
youareaturkey · 0 points · Posted at 23:47:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Raising any animals large scale is inefficient. We use tons of land and water to grow feed for livestock and then use more land and water to raise the livestock. Way more energy goes in than we get out.
TheeSamuelColt · 2 points · Posted at 00:05:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
His point is that raising herbivores(or feeding omnivores a vegetarian diet) is much more efficient than raising carnivores.
youareaturkey · 0 points · Posted at 00:16:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, I understand. I am just saying we don't choose certain animals over others to eat just because of efficiency.
DontFuckWithDuckie · 3 points · Posted at 00:03:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The argument is that at any scope, we'd get less 'energy' out of the system if we raised carnivores than we would if we raised herbivores
youareaturkey · -1 points · Posted at 00:15:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, I understand. I am just saying we don't choose certain animals over others to eat just because of efficiency.
stops_to_think · 0 points · Posted at 00:38:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
No arguments there. Just saying carnivores are worse.
youareaturkey · 1 points · Posted at 00:47:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But carnivores (like cats) are eaten large scale in some places. I don't think efficiency is the biggest reason we eat the animals we eat.
stops_to_think · 1 points · Posted at 02:41:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rather, not industrially. Cats can be eaten large scale in areas where their feral populations run rampant (usually because the rodent populations are also booming), but no one (to my knowledge) runs a cat farm for meat production.
You're basically hunting wild animals at that point, which is out of the scope of domestic animals and the livestock industry.
[deleted] · 73 points · Posted at 21:16:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where are infants on this scale?
HoneyBucketsOfOats · 52 points · Posted at 02:14:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have a modest proposal for you.
minasmorath · 9 points · Posted at 02:31:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ah, Swift vengeance. Those babies had it coming to them.
chrisfrat · 3 points · Posted at 02:42:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Irish you would lighten up a bit
cappz3 · 1 points · Posted at 17:01:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And how come there are no transgender animals?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:33:56 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
And why do they have GMOs?
Rustnrot · 0 points · Posted at 00:38:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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[deleted] · 50 points · Posted at 00:46:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In Vietnam people would think this a sign for a buffet
socokid · 12 points · Posted at 02:10:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Socially acceptable and tastes good might be reasons, but the point of the billboard is to specifically force you to answer that question of why you would draw the line right there.
Yes.
Dag-nabbitt · 6 points · Posted at 13:05:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because anything to the left of my line is not sold at the grocery store. Otherwise I'd try anything and continue to eat what tastes good. I would not slaughter and eat my cat, because I derive more pleasure from her being alive and a source of purr noises and cuddles.
jbippy1 · 3 points · Posted at 15:47:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Next time you're buying meat, look for rabbit. It is there and it is tasty.
Dag-nabbitt · 2 points · Posted at 16:39:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was mostly referencing the dog and cat part. I've had rabbit a few times. It's ok, but not my favorite. Compared to say duck or lamb.
socokid · 1 points · Posted at 00:19:50 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is one answer of many. Agreed.
Some might empathize with the conscious experience that exists in other species, and therefore find it difficult to unnecessarily kill them for pleasure (hunt/tastes good).
I just ate a juicy double butter-burger from Culver's, so I have no money on the race (God DAMN it was good). I'm just one of those odd people that respects both answers. shrugs
Tsorovar · 2 points · Posted at 06:25:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes?
socokid · 1 points · Posted at 00:13:42 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
Indubitably.
cnstarz · 15 points · Posted at 00:54:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
"Pets are just animals we don't eat."
Cymen90 · 2 points · Posted at 13:05:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Actually, pets are breeds of animals we don't eat. There are dogs bred for their meat.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 13:40:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
we call these "Children"
edit: reference to the Croods but nobody seems to know it
AccidentalMonster · 121 points · Posted at 00:25:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't like veganism being advertised like this, because it perpetuates the "preachy vegan" stereotype. I'd rather the topic be discussed through argument and reason. But other than this sign, I can't attest to ever having met a vegan who was pushy or preachy about their veganism. The trope seems to be a myth. It usually goes, "Want some meat?" "No I'm a vegan." "Oh, okay." But almost daily do I encounter a meme where someone who eats meat makes a tongue-in-cheek comment about how silly or lame vegans are. I do not understand the hostility towards vegans. Why do you care that vegans don't eat meat, unless you're harboring some guilt about it yourself?
Meta_Digital · 48 points · Posted at 00:59:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because abstaining from something another person enjoys is easily interpreted as a value judgement against that person. The implication is that they're doing something morally wrong. That's why the hostility is almost exclusively one directional: Meat eaters -> non-meat eaters. Vegetarians and vegans, with some extremely rare exceptions, don't aggressively push their agenda on others because the blowback would be extreme.
resilience0405 · 74 points · Posted at 01:18:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's really frustrating because I have literally never gone up to anyone and shamed them for eating meat. On the other hand, I have been teased and hassled multiple times for being vegetarian. Somehow vegetarians/vegans get the bad name for being aggressive/smug/pushy, though. Being vegetarian, vegan, or a meat eater is a personal choice, I think it would be really nice if everyone respected each other's lifestyle on this issue.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:59:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In real life this has never been an issue for me actually but online it has, oddly enough. I have veggie friends (mix of vegan, vegetarian & pescatarian) and I've never seen or heard them getting hassled OR hassling anyone about animal rights. Honestly at most it comes up when we selected what restaurant to meet at.
AccidentalMonster · 10 points · Posted at 01:44:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have teetered on the fence, but I'm not presently a vegan. However, I seriously respect you lot for your dedication to a cause, even if it's not one I agree with 100%. People who get worked up over vegans display a serious lack of conviction, imo.
positive_electron42 · 3 points · Posted at 05:15:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's similar in ways to how the average atheist will get called out as militant for some snarky Internet post, while the theists go about hacking up bloggers with machetes and beheading non-believers.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 02:42:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I once went on a date with this girl who was vegan,I had no idea because she never said anything. I took her to a place to eat, ordered myself a dish with meat. She scolded me and went to the nearest bus stop to go home. Like wtf, if you're a vegan or vegetarian and I'm taking you out to eat, please tell me or I won't know. I know she is an oddball but those people do exist.
AccidentalMonster · 1 points · Posted at 03:37:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sounds like an unpleasant person all around.
sillyvijay · 1 points · Posted at 07:20:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It would be interesting for meat eaters to visit a predominantly vegan/vegetarian place and see how that works :)
algot34 · 1 points · Posted at 12:42:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's the same reason people who drink alcohol can get mad when others abstain from drinking when going out
IAmATroyMcClure · 7 points · Posted at 05:49:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Seriously what the hell is with the daily vegan jokes on this subreddit lately? Not a single day has passed in about a week where I haven't seen a stupid vegan joke at the top.
ChecksUsername · 4 points · Posted at 04:25:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ehhh.... Its just one of those things where people remember the worst example of some group. I was vegetarian for a few years and met a lot of vegans. 9/10 of them were pretty chill... But its just that one self-righteous whiny person who gives everyone else a bad name.
AccidentalMonster · 1 points · Posted at 04:28:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's always one.
klethra · 8 points · Posted at 01:51:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We like to keep to our containment sub for the bitching and reserve the understanding and logic for when we go out in the community. A lot of the preachy vegan stereotype comes from people listening to vegans talk amongst themselves and imagining that they would talk the same way in public. Most vegans disagree with meat-eaters, but we recognize that it's ultimately your decision. We would like to convince you to join us, amd sometimes we get enthusiastic about that, but we're not trying to step on any toes.
Jfjfjdjdjj · 2 points · Posted at 17:12:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't this a logical argument to westerners though? Is it fair that a veg- can't put up a billboard asking where the line is yet there will be 50 billboards and restaurant signs in the vicinity advertising meat? Why isn't that preachy? Because its accepted as the norm.
ibbity · 0 points · Posted at 22:41:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Advertising a product for sale is not the same thing as making a public statement that you think that people should reconfigure their habits to your specifications on the basis that you personally believe they are morally repugnant for the ones they currently have. If the "meat for sale" signs were saying "Buy our meat or you're doing something wrong and are therefore a bad person," the comparison would be more apt.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:28:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm constantly, seeing posts putting down these 'preachy vegans' too- and yet despite having met loads of vegans, I have never had one preach about their beliefs to me.
Just loads of defensive omnivores lashing out against an entirely imagined threat.
Makefunofeveryone · 1 points · Posted at 18:32:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not many people care that you don't eat meat. The problem is the "have you accepted Vegan Christ as your lord and savior?"
Jezus53 · 1 points · Posted at 02:57:25 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
At my university they were very pushy. We even had meatless mondays in the dining halls. I don't care what you do, but when you take away the food I enjoy eating so you can send your message that's when I get angry. It especially pissed me off because i was weight training and needed to consume a lot of protein. Now i know you can get a good amount of protein from some vegan dishes but they usually had dishes either with shit I didn't like or straight up couldn't eat. So of course after a day of classes, studying, and hitting the gym all I want is a good meal. So eat your veggies and I'll have my chicken breast and we can coexist peacefully.
AccidentalMonster · 1 points · Posted at 03:01:29 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
Seems totally fair, friend.
Jezus53 · 2 points · Posted at 03:09:53 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
That was a quick response! I reread my message and it sounded a bit bitter so I just wanted to state that I'm completely fine with vegans. I just hated how they pushed it so hard on us there. Outside of school though I never experienced anything even close to preachy.
AlphakirA · -1 points · Posted at 03:48:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just an opinion, not a judgement but I think a lot of alpha males look at non meat eaters as lesser than,or beta males if you will. Who's more likely to be a vegetarian, the big muscle bound athlete looking guy or the skinny guy with glasses? Now who is the easier target to pick on? That's why people fuck with you. It's wrong, and maybe it doesn't apply in all cases, but I think that's where it stems from.
AccidentalMonster · 6 points · Posted at 04:01:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm 6'4" and 240 pounds. I've been a vegan on and off all my life (not currently right now, too much other shit going on in my life). Maybe your hypothetical is true for some vegans, but come to think of it, every vegan I've known IRL, including one marine, has not been the "nerdy" type.
AlphakirA · 3 points · Posted at 04:16:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Stereotypes don't have to be true 100% of the time for people to use them as if they were.
It's anecdotal, like your example, but every vegan or vegetarian I know looks like the standard 'hipster'.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:22:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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AlphakirA · 2 points · Posted at 06:04:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't disagree, and I think you think I'm judging you, which I'm not at all.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 04:47:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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AlphakirA · 2 points · Posted at 06:03:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't disagree with that... Who would?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:38:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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AlphakirA · 0 points · Posted at 13:48:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't understand the point you're making. Who said I disagree with them being insecure? The OP asked why people look down on vegans and I simply noted the types of people that I've noticed that do.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 18:22:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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AlphakirA · 0 points · Posted at 18:55:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/iWKad22h.jpg
nuggnugg · -1 points · Posted at 05:06:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or you could be like my ex girlfriend who knew I liked meat, would never be vegan, and yet still got pissed when she brought up howbad eating meat was. It was always little things that brought it up.
"I don't think I will live with someone that is not vegan".
"Except me of course."
"commence her telling me facts about why meat is bad and getting mad that I don't change my way of life overnight"
Orangebeardo · -1 points · Posted at 09:26:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So because you've never seen one it must be a myth? Granted it doesn't happen everywhere every day but it does happen enough to warrant these posts. Maybe they even helped some of the overly preachy vegans see how annoying they were being and most of them stopped. Who knows.
I'm not saying all vegans are that pushy type, I'm just saying they exist enough that these posts happen so much.
davidlyster · -1 points · Posted at 13:41:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hey guys, I found the vegan!
AccidentalMonster · 1 points · Posted at 15:01:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not a vegan.
sillyvijay · -2 points · Posted at 07:19:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Should guilt result in changed behavior? Nope. There we go :)
Mefreh · -2 points · Posted at 11:02:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The percentage of preachy vegans is too damn high.
SuperNinjaBot · -22 points · Posted at 01:32:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Even if you are not a vegan, you are definitely pushing an agenda here.
No one does, but signs like this all over the world show that they definitely care.
Also, dont get pissed off when I say you eat like a rabbit. You do.
AccidentalMonster · 17 points · Posted at 01:39:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I have no agenda to push. I'm merely sharing an observation.
Didn't know rabbits ate deep-dish mushroom and sausage pizza, or that they drank vodka 7. Thanks for sharing!
HappyFunMonkey · 231 points · Posted at 19:35:44 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse and rabbit are good. When people eat dog it's not your house dog but a breed of dog for eating.
Most of those animals eat animals too.
[deleted] · 164 points · Posted at 20:35:48 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
These guys are pretty cheap. They put dogs and cats but not any other pets. What's wrong with goldfish, the snack that smiles back?
YourLocalWeatherMan · 56 points · Posted at 20:53:48 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
They even excluded gummy bears
[deleted] · 17 points · Posted at 23:36:11 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
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ghostpoopftw · 17 points · Posted at 00:40:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I believe the dish "worms in dirt" is traditionally made with chocolate pudding with crushed Oreo cookies and gummi worms crawling about in it.
denno87 · 2 points · Posted at 00:31:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Are you talking about dirt cake? It's great. Last I had a good dirt cake was my ex coworker's last day on the job. Late 20's here. The whole office kept saying that we like eating dirt, ha
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:22:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's super common. Baskin Robbins sells/sold it as dirt and worms.
toeonly · 1 points · Posted at 02:24:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
until you bite there heads of. Video of that line in the song
Orangebeardo · 1 points · Posted at 09:18:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
lmao I actually laughed.
Waveseeker · 30 points · Posted at 00:21:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What about Guinea pig?
In Peru the eat it but in the US it's strictly a pet.
It's all relative to how weirded out we get from it.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:05:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Friend of mine has extensively traveled south America and seen many potato sacks filled with guinea pigs.
tastyscavenger · 2 points · Posted at 02:57:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would like to know what kind of noise that sack would make being swung into a small child.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:13:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
squeak squeak squeak thwack!
jadedargyle333 · 2 points · Posted at 01:54:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's crazy how much they look like little pigs when the hair is burned off.
flying-sheep · 1 points · Posted at 05:55:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They were intentionally introduced as food in some places of the world, where they're now pets.
HappyFunMonkey · -2 points · Posted at 00:38:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think it would be crap meat, like racoon.
sfoxy · 5 points · Posted at 00:56:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
American here. I visited my gf family in Trujillo, Peru and they served guinea pig. It's very similar to rabbit. If you haven't had that I would say it tastes like dark chicken meat but greasier and more flavorful.
pdxscout · 25 points · Posted at 20:15:18 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had a dog who was bred to be food. I used to joke that when she expired I would rotate her on a spit with an apple in her mouth. I did not do that.
[deleted] · 10 points · Posted at 20:35:39 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's not the image I wanted in my head of me eating my puppy.
bonerofalonelyheart · 28 points · Posted at 21:54:25 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Which image of you eating your puppy were you hoping for?
cynoclast · 9 points · Posted at 22:43:54 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well you don't eat the puppies, you let them grow up first.
intentsman · 1 points · Posted at 05:32:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Arapahoes (and Sioux) eat puppies too. For some ceremonies, puppy is preferred.
LtG_Skittles454 · 1 points · Posted at 22:47:25 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
What about the puppy equivalent of veal?
cynoclast · 4 points · Posted at 23:15:10 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Needs a more appealing name than 'puppy meat".
jaspersurfer · 3 points · Posted at 23:35:57 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Puppy patte.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:11:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
.... Peal?
twodogsfighting · 2 points · Posted at 01:54:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Roast puppy.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:53:29 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
We used to have a cat that was supposed to be left for "the darkest hours" because it was dark as the night
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 22:16:54 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
You disappointed the lineage.
GlamRockDave · 15 points · Posted at 21:00:13 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's still the same basic dog they're eating, it's just a slightly chubbier one that they don't allow to get much exercise
HappyFunMonkey · 6 points · Posted at 22:12:37 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nureongi
That's not a chubby Lab.
GlamRockDave · 19 points · Posted at 22:41:00 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
point is a "feed dog" is not fundamentally different than a house pet. All domesticated Canis Lupis are basically the same, especially in the brain. It's just the outward appearance that varies superficially.
DangerouslyUnstable · 4 points · Posted at 23:57:49 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
True, but I don't think I have any fundamental problem eating most animals if they are raised and killed humanely. About the only things I'd draw the line at are Great Apes and other higher primates, and maybe dolphins and whales. About anything else is low enough on the intelligence/sapience scale for me that as long as they are treated humanely in life and death, I'm ok with it.
-edit- I'll add that in our culture, the larger moral problem with eating animals that we traditionally consider pets is not from it's impact on the animals but it's impact on the humans who keep them. If you kill and eat someones pet dog, it causes a whole mess of emotional harm to the pet owner, and dogs and cats are so ingrained in our social conciousness (in this country and in most of the west) that eating any dog or cat, an owned pet or otherwise, causes similar harm.
[deleted] · 15 points · Posted at 00:01:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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DangerouslyUnstable · 2 points · Posted at 00:03:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You are right of course, a lot of animals in this country aren't treated humanely but that just means you need to be more selective about where you get your meat and be willing to pay higher prices.
Jfjfjdjdjj · 1 points · Posted at 17:09:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3134937/Gorging-dog-meat-fans-China-s-Yulin-festival-ignore-global-fury-annual-feast-call-ban-eating-TURKEYS-Christmas.html
One valid complaint about China and its dog and cat meat festivals, consumption, and animal consumption in general is how purposefully cruel it is. Dogs and cats are skinned alive, boiled and blowtorched alive, butchered alive and fully conscious, beaten, etc. they claim it makes the meat taste better and they throughly enjoy torturing the animal. (Not all Chinese, many people try to stop this).
DangerouslyUnstable · 1 points · Posted at 17:45:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I mean, that's pretty clearly wrong no matter what species it is. I don't pull the wings off flies for no reason either, and I'm pretty sure they lack any sapience let alone sentience
GlamRockDave · 0 points · Posted at 00:03:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's a big IF.
But I sort of do make a distinction between historically bred feed animals like cattle and chickens, and the domesticated dog, which this Nureongi isn't any different from. We've bred farm animals to be docile and essentially dumb (relative term). That's not to say these animals don't have mortal fear, but I think they don't crave human attention nearly as much as dogs, which we've carefully bred into them over 50k years. We selectively bred dogs to love and respect us, so it feels like kind of a betrayal to me to abuse that trust. Cows and chickens I suspect couldn't really care less about us (in general, of course some probably do). It's not about the manner of their death, its their happiness in life to me. And I think a dog raised in a farm cage is less happy than a cow.
Pigs I know have at least a superficially more advanced type of intelligence than the average farm animal as far as I've heard. If I have a problem eating any farm animal it's that one (but I still eat them).
I understand most of this is speculative, it's just my feeling and how I justify having a larger moral problem with feed dogs. Other people may have the opposite opinion, or more likely that there is no difference. That's fair if that's what they honestly feel.
jmw6773 · -2 points · Posted at 00:21:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Dolphin isn't too bad in a stir fry and I've only had whale twice as a burger and raw, but it was terrific. I also draw the line at higher primates.
MalHeartsNutmeg · 1 points · Posted at 01:05:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I always heard that whale tastes awful which fuels the controversy with Japanese whaling. The younger generations aren't keen on it but they fish it (is it still fishing if it's a mammal?) anyway.
jmw6773 · 2 points · Posted at 03:57:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm sure different whale has different tastes and textures, but I thought the whale I was served in Gifu had a better taste and texture than tuna sashimi. (I was drinking/eating with members of the older generation.)
I'm not against whaling, but it needs to be done in a humane way, regulated so it's not over-fished, and Japan needs to stop lying about it being for research. If this doesn't happen (it won't), I doubt I'll be eating whale again.
Rebootkid · -5 points · Posted at 23:25:01 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Enh. I'd eat it.
Plus, the intelligence level between a Chihuahua and a German Shepherd is rather large. There's just such a disparity of brain size there.
That said, I'd eat a chicken I raised as a pet. So, maybe I'm not the best person to be commenting on this.
GlamRockDave · 5 points · Posted at 23:49:28 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
brain size has nothing to do with intelligence. The chihuahua and german shepherd's brains are wired the same way.
Was Andre The Giant twice as smart as Stephen Hawking?
Besides men's brains are generally slightly larger than women's, corresponding to body size. To suggest that bigger brains are more intelligent has extremely profound implications were it true. But it's not.
PandaCodeRed · 2 points · Posted at 01:42:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But Chihuauhuas are annoying as hell. I'd eat one to make one less on the planet.
GlamRockDave · 2 points · Posted at 01:44:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
seems like more trouble than it's worth for a tiny amount of meat
Jfjfjdjdjj · 1 points · Posted at 17:07:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3134937/Gorging-dog-meat-fans-China-s-Yulin-festival-ignore-global-fury-annual-feast-call-ban-eating-TURKEYS-Christmas.html
Scroll through you'll see a yellow lab there. All breeds are eaten.
tastyscavenger · -1 points · Posted at 02:59:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looks more like-a doge to me.
Super_Satchel · 2 points · Posted at 01:27:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
People generally don't farm carnivores for consumption. It is extremely inefficient when compared with herbivores. Most people also don't grow/hunt their own food and they want to pay as little as possible for it. That's why we mostly eat herbivores.
HypeNyg · 3 points · Posted at 22:33:26 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's not necessarily true. There's a surprisingly large population of dog cooked forfood that have been stolen from people's homes
HappyFunMonkey · -1 points · Posted at 22:43:38 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's not real dog meat, that's filler meat. Not advertized as dog meat.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:17:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What difference does that make to the dog? I gaurantee you both breeds of dogs have the exact same desire to live and be free from harm, so why is it justifiable to cause that conflict of interest if you have other sources of food that aren't capable of suffering?
They don't have access to a grocery store and can't contemplate the moral consequences of their actions.
SplitArrow · 2 points · Posted at 04:07:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I don't care. Plain and simple. I will continue to hunt and fish and eat bacon cheeseburgers and lick my fingers when I'm done.
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 04:09:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'll do it for you.
SplitArrow · 2 points · Posted at 04:14:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
What is your problem with people eating meat? Beyond the questionable farming practices of some industries. I live rural and raise much of my own produce and buy from local butchers for meat. I also hunt deer, boars and fish.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 04:21:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Because of the environmental and ethical implications, I think it's preferable for humanity to make a shift from animal to plant products. I'll explain further.
Animal agriculture is one of the primary contributors to greenhouse gases, even edging out forms of transportation. This is a study by the United Nations Environment Programme I think you'll find interesting. it is also the primary contributor to deforestation worldwide.
On top of this, practices like chick culling and gestation crates just to name a couple horrific devices use in the animal agriculture industry, are inescapable realities of our desire to consume animal products. Animals are sentient and have interests and desires of their own. Whatever moral value you decide to give them, they deserve at least the right to be free from harm.
If we are a just species, and if we want to protect our planet, we will take these issues seriously, don't you think?
Edit about your edit:
Look, you can't just handwave this issue like that. I know every single meat eater on reddit gets their meat from a local butcher and never buys animal products at a grocery store or restaurant, but you can't ignore the reality that if we want animal products on a regular basis at any sort of affordable price (and that's with ridiculous subsidies), cruelty is the price we pay.
Please explain how we get eggs without chick culling. Please explain how we get milk & cheese witout separating calves at birith, selling the young. Please explain how you get a steak without slitting a cow's throat at a fraction of it's natural lifespan, ignoring it's clear desire to live. This is not "some industries", this is the reality of animal agriculture.
If you want to here about factory farms, where 99% of our animal products come from, I can talk about that. But I'm not.
SplitArrow · 1 points · Posted at 04:32:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I specifically said that large meat industries had questionable practices. That's why I but local from butchers. Sorry but you are never going to stop people from eating meat and you are retarded to try. You are better off reforming the meat industry practices and finding better ways to mitigate carbon. Sorry but I and every other meat eater WILL NEVER stop eating meat.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:36:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Can you please read my edit? I addressed that point specifically and you seemed to have skipped over it. There are inherent conflicts of interest in making animal products that go beyond the shit that goes on in factory farms.
I'll ask again: how do we get eggs without chick culling, how do we get dairy without calf separation and artificial insemination? If these don't go on where you local butcher gets his animal products this should be easy for you to answer.
Beyond that, why is it justifiable to take a concious life at a fraction of it's natural lifespan, no matter how well you treat them?
We have a solution that nearly everyone can participate in now. Climate change is an immediate threat and your solution is "yeah, lets put it off tho because bacon"
yabacam · 2 points · Posted at 22:44:40 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is horse similar to cow?
jorvay · 8 points · Posted at 23:31:49 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Leaner. The Dutch make a smoked horse meat that is shaved paper thin and extra salty. It's a bit like prosciutto but lean and it falls apart in your mouth. So Damn good.
yabacam · 3 points · Posted at 01:10:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
sounds delicious. I'd try horse meat.
HappyFunMonkey · 2 points · Posted at 00:37:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Deer.
nextdoorelephant · 2 points · Posted at 01:15:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I once had a plate of horse sushi in Japan. Eight pieces total, each a different cut. Was really good...
Tatortot15 · 1 points · Posted at 01:35:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not every country has a specific breed that is used for meat. Some slaughter any breed (usually the cheaper meats) can be from any dog breed.
Not that that makes it any less awful.
hellschatt · 1 points · Posted at 02:05:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit is alright and I draw the line right after horse. But dogs man... you can't do that. It feels wrong morally.
I probably wouldn't eat horse too if I had more interactions with horses in my life. But until then... Horse kebab is pretty ok.
Jfjfjdjdjj · 1 points · Posted at 17:02:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
bullshit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3134937/Gorging-dog-meat-fans-China-s-Yulin-festival-ignore-global-fury-annual-feast-call-ban-eating-TURKEYS-Christmas.html
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 23:38:41 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes you're right about that. But in those cases, the animals eaten are given the chance to live in nature. The animals you eat are not. They live short miserable lives. There's a big difference between hunting for food and mass producing it.
code0011 · 8 points · Posted at 23:57:52 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why must an animal's life be miserable just because they're raised for slaughter? Every farmer I know who has livestock cares deeply about his/her animals. They spend time out in the field with them, know them by name, and are tearful when they're sent off for slaughter.
Rostin · 3 points · Posted at 00:34:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Really? I grew up on a farm. A real farm that was my parents' sole livelihood, not a hobby farm or something they did after walking away from successful careers as something else. They hauled grain to an elevator in a truck, not organic vegetables to sell to yuppies at the farmer's market.
No farmer I ever knew formed emotional attachments with livestock. In general, they had a completely unsentimental attitude about animals, which extended even to pets. I remember my dad once shooting a family pet, Old Yeller style, to put it out of its misery after it'd been hit by a car.
code0011 · 3 points · Posted at 00:53:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I personally did not grow up on a farm (although I technically live on one now), but at least 3 generations back of my family up my mother's side have been farmers. It may have gone back further but that's as far as my knowledge goes. My grandmother was a pig farmer and she absolutely loved her pigs, more so than she loves her current animals (some geese) and she's in tears if a fox gets one.
It may well just be one of the differences between American and English farms.
deanbmmv · 2 points · Posted at 23:57:53 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure cat and dog food isn't made from wild angus that roam the plains.
ptarmiganaway · -4 points · Posted at 20:39:32 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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HappyFunMonkey · 6 points · Posted at 20:41:06 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes it does.
The dogs they use to eat are not as close, dependent or loyal as the family pet dog is.
JTtheLAR · 7 points · Posted at 23:44:19 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because they were raised as food... If you put a human in a cage from birth and raise it as nothing but a food source with no interaction other than force feeding and cruelty they will be nothing like me or you. It doesn't mean that they aren't human, it means that they never had a chance.
HappyFunMonkey · -2 points · Posted at 00:36:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
A Person in a cage, isn't a human like you and me.
JTtheLAR · 4 points · Posted at 01:38:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It doesn't take much mental energy to figure out how dangerous that form of thinking is.
Tatortot15 · 3 points · Posted at 01:40:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That doesn't make their life worthless, especially if WE put them in that cage, and caused them to be so different.
ptarmiganaway · 5 points · Posted at 21:05:19 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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alandbeforetime · 4 points · Posted at 22:03:28 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Domestication is present on a genetic level, I believe, so it's very possible the distinction isn't entirely cultural
ptarmiganaway · 4 points · Posted at 22:14:08 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I just don't think that it's possible that the meat dogs are so genetically removed from all the rest of dog-kind that they cannot be kept as pets. In fact, these dogs get rescued and rehomed all the time if they're young enough to be socialized.
Dogs are the only animal that require the social contact of another species (humans) for proper mental health. Loving humans is in their bones.
alandbeforetime · 2 points · Posted at 22:31:11 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wait, like...feral dogs are all crazy? Can you expand on this point?
nordic_barnacles · 3 points · Posted at 22:43:45 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not exactly crazy, but domestication, in a way, stunts development. For instance, wolves don't really bark for no reason unless they're pups. Dogs do. You're basically getting a wolf pack run by teenagers, no one knowing exactly what to do.
Domestication replaces innate behavior, or enhances certain behaviors that we deem valuable, but that prevents other behaviors natively found from presenting themselves, and those are if not essential at least extremely helpful to surviving without human interaction.
alandbeforetime · 3 points · Posted at 23:03:04 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh, I see what you mean. I mean...I suppose so, but then couldn't you make the point that cows and horses and goats are basically all "stunted" in their developments and need human contact as well? That doesn't refute anything you said, but that seems like a rather odd conclusion.
Also from your comment above:
I agree with this statement, but I don't think it would be a large stretch to say "this breed of dog that is bred for eating is likely poor in temperament and would be a poor pet for most families".
Although I guess I don't really know why we care if the distinction between meat and pet dogs is cultural or not. Is the point to make people sympathise with meat dogs more and to stop the consumption of dogs as a whole?
nordic_barnacles · 4 points · Posted at 23:20:34 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
You're confusing two posters. There are tons of feed animals that would cease to exist without human intervention. They are domesticated and breeding in the wild would be difficult. For some dogs, like the English Bulldog, it would be impossible.
If the dogs used solely for food have been domesticated in a manner that makes them optimal to the task of being eaten, then their domestication would not necessarily be in line with other breeds of dogs.
I mean, the fact is a border collie makes an awful pet. They were designed to work. You put them in a normal pet environment and they will eat your house out of boredom.
Domestication is a catchall term. The reason why breeds exist, ideally, for the most part, was so they could do very specific tasks.
But I was just replying to the feral dogs bit. I can say that Chow Chows, a breed that is used as a pet but was originally food stock, tend to be awful creatures. They tend to be dog aggressive, poor with children, and quick to bite. There are exceptions. Training can mitigate this behavior, but they are not golden retrievers.
But I also can't attest to how they taste, although the adage is, the blacker the tongue, the better the meat.
alandbeforetime · 2 points · Posted at 23:35:16 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh whoops, my mistake. Thank you for the enlightening post though!
I will keep this in mind if I ever try dog
HappyFunMonkey · 2 points · Posted at 22:19:49 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wolfs are the same basic thing as a domestic dog, but the dog through many, many, many generations has become a different animal.
ptarmiganaway · 2 points · Posted at 22:24:34 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Uh, ok? I don't really see how that's relevant. Meat dogs are still dogs, it's not like they've reverted to wolves or anything. They can be perfectly good pets as long as they're not tortured from birth.
HappyFunMonkey · 2 points · Posted at 22:39:44 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Only in the technical way. A wolf is not like your pet, neither is the dog breed that's for eating. But they are all canines
ptarmiganaway · 3 points · Posted at 22:50:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
You're making a leap of logic by saying that just because those dogs are bred for meat, they do not retain the characteristics of pets. I do not see any evidence that that is the case. Those dogs can be and are rehabilitated and kept as pets. They have not lost the ability to have a normal relationship with humans.
sidescrollin · 1 points · Posted at 04:11:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah idk where he is getting that. Dogs bred for meat are bred because they taste a certain way. It isn't like they are wild dogs that are incapable of being pets, its more like black labs seem to have tasty meat so people keep black labs as meat dogs.
The domestication isn't bred out of them or something. The overwhelming evidence would be that any other given breed with a job is still a domestic dog capable of being a loving loyal pet. Dogs for hunting, fighting, herding, etc all are totally capable of not doing any of those things, they are still domesticated dogs and a "meat dog" is no different.
Eurospective · 1 points · Posted at 22:46:44 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yet you can have a wolf as a pet just as much as a dog.
HappyFunMonkey · 2 points · Posted at 00:37:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
No, No ,No
I lived in Alaska where people tried. Don't even think it's a easy to have a wolf as it is to have a dog.
ToolBoyNIN39 · 1 points · Posted at 08:04:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where's that Craigslist ad about a guy selling a house trained cow???
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 21:06:18 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
No, but it is less a pet than a family dog.
ptarmiganaway · 5 points · Posted at 21:08:09 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is only because they are raised in tiny cages without companionship. There is nothing inherent about these dogs that makes them less of a potential pet other than the unfortunate conditions that they are raised in.
wilderthanu93 · 0 points · Posted at 21:37:05 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
yea and cows are smart. But tasty and delicious.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:20:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whats cool is that in some countries that also don't really regard animal life as valuable if it is a desirable meat, is that they'll actually hang the "special breed" of dog from a rope and beat it with a stick because they believed traumatized meat is better.
Perhaps there is more adrenaline in the blood, or other hormones, that are released just before death that give it an extra kick. I don't know the science but the proof is in the meat!
In either case, I really just think this is all funny. Glad that reddit is always making fun of vegans (what a bunch of assholes anyways). People get so worked up about eating animals and meat and I just don't know why!? lol It's so dumb, meat tastes good! So I eat it. What other reason could you need!?
[deleted] · 8 points · Posted at 00:14:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Uh, where is the human meat?
sai911 · 3 points · Posted at 01:59:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well dogs are food in Asia.
I just remembered a thing that happened in my home town about dogs. Where I live we dont have animal shelters and stuff like that so we sometime have dog manifestation in some area. The government decides to move all Philippines workers to that area, in less than 2 months I swear to God the dogs all disappeared. They got eaten by them and im not joking about that lol.
Sinanovski · 4 points · Posted at 05:26:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You should draw it between dog and rabbit. rabbits are edible. Horses too.
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[deleted] · 94 points · Posted at 01:12:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I just love humanely slitting some throats!
In all seriousness, most people say that but I hardly ever see their behavior reflect it. It's more just a "yeah, someone should do something about that eventually" sentiment. At most they'll buy "free-range", which is a marketing term that essentially means the animals aren't kept in battery cages their entire lives and has nothing to do with the slaughter itself. This idea of rolling green hills and happy cows is essentially a fantasy, sure it exists, but it's not what you find in grocery stores or restaurants, you have to seek it out. And even then, they are still supplied with chickens from corporations that utilize practices such as chick culling and artificial insemination.
So theoretically, is it possible to farm animals without suffering? Sure, you can give them nice belly rubs and euthanize them in their sleep. But in a practical sense suffering is an inherent part of the production of all animal products. The only consistent viewpoints to have are "Fuck it, animals are cool but my taste buds are more important" or "I care about animal suffering so I'll stop buying animal products."
But nobody wants to hear that shit.
Orangebeardo · 2 points · Posted at 09:35:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is only true because we made it so. We could have mandated humane treatment from the very start of modern animal farming and not bitch about it at all now.
Humane in this sense BTW means a good, dignified life and a quick death. Not killing isn't on the menu for me either. At least until we grow meat in the lab at a cheap price.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 09:46:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So how do we feed the world's hunger for animal products without factory farms? How to you get cheap bacon without gestation crates? How to you get cheap eggs without chick culling? Never mind that, how do you get expensive animal products without these practices (and these are with massive subsidies)? It's impossible. That's what I mean when I say inherent. You say "mandate treatment" but that's just lip-service. We have laws that prevent "unecessary suffering" but they do noting because in a capitalist society "necessary suffering" is any suffering that increases efficiency.
These practices exist because we think it's acceptable to harm animals for reasons of pleasure and convenience. They won't go away until we speak with our wallets and stop buying this shit. Animal products require a conflict of interest with the animals they're made from. Either be comfortable that or don't eat them.
Also what about the rampant deforestation? Do you realize how much more land free-range farms take than factory farms? Free-range farms are already a massive strain on the environment.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:31:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
All this is why lab grown meat will be so great when it's more available- and it's price is falling at a fantastic rate.
You can't make half the world turn vegetarian based on values that they just don't have, most people do not give a shit about the animals.
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Let's do a thought experiment. Imagine all of the millions of vegetarians and vegans in the world are convinced by your airtight argument and decide to start eating meat overnight. Do you think the animal agriculture industry will make more animal products? Do you think they will make less animal products? Or do you think the production will stay the same?
Take your time.
This is a cheap way to take responsibility away from the consumer. We are all culpable in this.
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Individuals make up those millions. This attitude stunts any sort of moral progress.
They're not idiots. I never said you were an idiot, and I certainly wasn't an idiot for 19 years of my life. There's a difference between indoctrination and idiocy. I thought factory farming was the exception. I thought you needed meat, dairy and eggs to be an athlete, or at least an elite one. I thought vegans were loonies without any rational argument to their credit, I thought the food would be shit. I just wasn't aware, that doesn't mean I was stupid.
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[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 03:02:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So you concede that it's morally problematic!? Everything's comin' up Leafheart.
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[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 03:07:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah well I was m8
Still, I disgagree that this is not inconsistent. You are participating and funding an industry you see as immoral.
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[deleted] · 13 points · Posted at 01:38:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Read it three times then?
My point is there is no practical way to have an industry relying on the exploitation of animals while simulataneously prioritizing their well-being over production efficiency. Practices like chick culling, dehorning, removing babies from mothers, and artificial insemination are required to make animal products and those cannot possibly be called "treating animals right".
Think about it for a moment, why do you think factory farms have become so prevalent since the 60s? Because some supervillain thought it'd be neat to torture animals? No, because that's the only way the world can get animal products at any sort of affordable price on any sort of regular basis with it's current population (a population which is only increasing). Either reduce consumption drastically, or be fine with causing animals suffering. There is no middleground.
Basically what I'm saying is people who think animals should be treated well and still consume animal products want to have their cake and eat it too.
jadedargyle333 · 1 points · Posted at 02:03:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's completely bullshit. I buy from a local butcher and have visited the farms they buy from. My grandfather was a farmer and raised cattle, pigs, and chicken in a very ethical manner. The farmers that supply my local butcher have the same ethics. The local restaurants buy from the same farms.
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Where did your grandfather purchase his chickens? Did that corporation utilize chick culling? What about his cows, did he leave the calves with their mothers? Did he ever sell them to be made into veal? Did he utilize artificial insemination or purchase animals from corporations that did? What about the piglets, did he purchase them from corporations that ripped their testicles off or were they still there? Are you even aware of the answer to half of these questions?
I'm sure your grandfather's farm was much better than a factory farm, but the conflicts of interest are inherent and ubiqitous.
Edit: Also, notice how you say "local butcher" and not "restaurant" or "grocery store". Surely that's because you don't buy your animal products anywhere else, right? That always the case when an animal lover such as yourself buys from their local butcher.
jadedargyle333 · 1 points · Posted at 02:31:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My grandfather purchased all animals from the neighbors offspring. He would typically only buy females, with a single bull and boar for breeding. The factory farms are pretty nasty, and that's known to small farmers. You seem pretty adamant about either being for the ethical treatment of animals or eating meat, but I've seen plenty of places that produce meat in a very ethical manner. I've also driven across the country a dozen times and have seen many places that do not. The secret is to seek out local food, and if it isn't local, find a reputable source. I trust intelligentsia with coffee, and askinosie with chocolate. I can visit about 10 nearby farms for cheese, meat, and produce. The price is a bit higher, but honestly, it should be.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 02:33:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And did they do any of the things I asked you about or not?
By "seen", you mean you've seen their operation and made certain that they don't utilize any of the practices I mentioned?
jadedargyle333 · 3 points · Posted at 03:01:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You're moving the goalposts. But if you paid attention in the previous post, small farmers tend to despise factory farm procedures. So, the neighbors probably didn't do shitty things to animals. That's a pretty stupid qualification for ethical treatment. "Yeah, this animal was treated ethically, but what about the rest of its bloodline?" As for the second question, read my post again. I have indeed seen many places that do not treat animals in an ethical manner. I didn't need to take a tour to see that the animals were locked in stalls for the majority of their lives.
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But... I literally just asked you to answer the questions I asked in my previous comment. Isn't that the opposite of moving goalposts?
Oh, I see the misunderstanding. Those aren't "factory farm procedures." Factory farm procedures are keeping animals in cages where they can't turn or move their entire lives. Slamming piglets into concrete when they won't grow fast enough. Dehorning and debeaking without anesthetic. You know, the sort of living hell we've come to expect from the animal agriculture industry.
My questions were more related to the, like I keep saying, inherent practices across all animal farms.
Hahaha. Yeah. That sure is convenient.
More like
No you haven't, because you just said "probably".
Not one of the questions I asked.
Edit: You know one of my original points was that the farm you're describing is something you have to seek out and is not what you find in grocery stores and restaurants. It kind of sounds like you would agree.
jadedargyle333 · 1 points · Posted at 03:17:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
At this point you've probably confused posts and responses. Your current response doesn't really make sense, and it makes it difficult to continue an intelligible discussion.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:18:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I directly responded to the points in your post.
jadedargyle333 · 2 points · Posted at 03:32:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Only if you count responding to out of context portions of a statement as responding to the points of a post. Try again when you're sober.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 03:36:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You think the questions I asked were referring to factory farming practices when that is not the case. When asked if the farms you've seen or the farm your grandfather purchased his livestock from used the ubiqitous practices I asked you about, you essentially said "probably not" and couldn't specifically state whether those farms artificailly inseminated their animals, separated calves at birth, sold calves to veal farms, culled chicks etc. (or if they purchased from corporations that did). And I don't know what the hell you mean when you say I moved goalposts.
I'm sorry if my post was incoherent, I genuinely am high and you caught me on that, but I'm pretty sure I'm responding to the right person.
fucklawyers · 0 points · Posted at 04:48:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Woah. They invented meat in the sixties?! No shit.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 04:51:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That reading comprehension is adorable.
Factory farms became prevalent in the 60s.
fucklawyers · 1 points · Posted at 04:55:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But factory farms are the only way the world can get animal products!
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 04:58:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's not the only place we as individuals can go to purchase animal products, no. But it's what supplies virtually all of our grocery stores and restaurants.
If you think the world's population can be fed animal products on a regular basis with free-range happy joy joy sunshine organic family farms, you're fooling yourself.
Tell me, how would you go about creating an egg industry without chick culling? Or a dairy industry without veal? Go on.
fucklawyers · -3 points · Posted at 05:06:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm American. I have all the land I need for cows. More than I need.
You sex the eggs, turn the male eggs into egg beaters. You eat the veal and don't cry about the age of animal. I bet you eat bean sprouts.
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[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 03:10:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm annoyed by you brah
HoneyBucketsOfOats · -4 points · Posted at 02:25:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's suffering in all things. You clearly have an agenda here. I, for one, vote with my dollar and buy my beef from a local farm where I've seen how the animals are treated, but in the end it's just a fucking cow. If he didn't want to get eaten he shouldn't have been made out of steaks.
[deleted] · 17 points · Posted at 02:28:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What an inane thing to say. No shit, but why not reduce the amount of suffering in the world if we are capable of doing so?
To share my opinion on the animal agriculture industry with my good friends on reddit?
So do I. I vote for them not to be killed. And nice use of irony to mask your lack of rational arguments at the end there, lad!
ProfessorThursday · 3 points · Posted at 03:00:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well, that's kind of a stupid statement. It's not like cows really have a choice, do they? They're basically kept as slaves.
HoneyBucketsOfOats · 3 points · Posted at 03:33:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That part is obviously a joke. Lord.
Kakabaka- · 39 points · Posted at 20:31:24 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I agree as well. The animals should be respected and well cared for before they are killed for food.
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DevinTheGrand · 15 points · Posted at 03:01:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Most meat does not come from blue collar middle class ranches, most meat comes from giant factory farms that treat chickens worse than most people treat inanimate objects.
[deleted] · 35 points · Posted at 01:00:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The reality is that a lot of commercial store and restaurant meat is supplied by livestock conglomerates that do not provide a good quality life for the livestock, nor quality work environments for the humans.
But small scale farms cannot afford to just have a cow or two die. Which is why ya'll care more about the animals. Tasty tasty animals.
Orangebeardo · 1 points · Posted at 09:40:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just because butchers do it one way doesn't mean that's the only way. They slaughter animals in these horrible ways because it's efficient, not because it's the most humane way. No one is saying that we must end all suffering; there is no way to do that and still get our meat. But we can make it a quick death and not this ridiculous torture we put animals through nowadays. This kind of slaughter isn't even close to the worst thing we systematically do to animals. But we can and should fix all of those problems.
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grrangry · 8 points · Posted at 23:03:49 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why does your Google search query start with
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:07:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I want this to be a thing.
moskie · 0 points · Posted at 05:37:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What logic do you use to inform yourself that animals should be respected and cared for?
That same logic should also inform you that it's wrong to unnecessarily kill them.
Kakabaka- · 1 points · Posted at 12:35:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
When I said to respect them and care for them, I meant to treat them as living things. Most, if not all factory farms beat, and torture those animals before killing them. However, in some family farms, the farmers care for the animals and kill them humanely to ensure a quick ans painless death.
moskie · 0 points · Posted at 13:28:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But what do you mean by this? Why should living things, like farm animals, be treated well and with respect?
PrimeIntellect · 11 points · Posted at 00:57:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Most people think that but nobody wants to put the burger down
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Doing that also insures it is better for us. If they live in good conditions when raised then there is less of chance something will be wrong with the food products. When you look at the way we mass farm cows in the US to feed our over consumption of meat (people in the US eat way too much meat in unhealthy proportions) the cows stand and lay around in their own feces all day, are fed food that is not natural for them and doesn't give them proper nourishment, are giving hormones and antibiotics (the latter of which is just stupid, are companies trying to create super bacteria?). There is no way all of the stuff we do to those animals does not affect us in some negative way. This is why I try to buy locally raised meat, because I know they were not kept in a cage, they were given hormones or antibiotics, that they were grass fed, etc. All of that insures that the cow is most likely healthy and it also taste better that way as well.
SimonCharles · 2 points · Posted at 09:25:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Which is why I can't understand why people get so angry about others eating horse meat. Horses aren't bred for their meat, they get to do all kinds of other stuff and when they die the meat is used. Much more ethical if you compare to cows for instance, plus the meat can be as good as beef tenderloin.
"But, but, horses and dogs are our friends!" you say. So? That doesn't make it worse to eat them, it just demonstrates that you only care about them because they're YOUR friends and you like them. It's not about their lives, it's about your feelings.
Cardinal_Llama · 4 points · Posted at 21:08:10 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Agreed. Also stop the overuse of antibiotics in livestock.
Merlunie · 1 points · Posted at 23:18:25 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is there any actual factual study done on this? Because most stuff I see is opinion pieces. Same thing with the shot people give hormones, but i understand the science better behind hormones than antibiotics. Anyways I was just curious.
Cardinal_Llama · 3 points · Posted at 01:17:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Are you curious about how many livestock are fed antibiotics or the repercussions of antibiotic overuse?
Merlunie · 2 points · Posted at 01:34:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I was under the impression that you were saying eating meat that was fed antibiotics can lead to resistance in humans. But rather it seems that you were saying that it can lead to resistant bacteria or "superbugs".
Cardinal_Llama · 2 points · Posted at 01:43:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Both really. According to the CDC, the overuse of antibiotics in livestock can create resistant bacteria within the livestock. If that livestock is killed and then it's undercooked meat is served to you, those resistant bacteria could grow in your own gut. Also if the livestock's manure is used to fertilize crops, those resistant bacteria can live on crops that when unwashed, are consumed by humans.
StickitFlipit · 2 points · Posted at 23:34:58 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
They are rapidly speeding up the evolution of some bacteria and making them immune to antibiotics, which could have disastrous effects in the near future.
Merlunie · 2 points · Posted at 23:45:45 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I mean, you can't blame me for asking but source?
Cardinal_Llama · 2 points · Posted at 01:28:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://www.cdc.gov/drugresistance/about.html
StickitFlipit · 2 points · Posted at 23:54:37 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimicrobial_resistance You can find a lot more by googling.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:49:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is more due to irresponsible use of antibiotics in livestock. The key to resistance is you have to leave some alive. As long as you use a proper dosage you don't have much to worry about. It's when using too low of a dose or not finishing up that weeks worth your doctor told you to take is when the stronger ones survive and you end up creating things like super bacteria AIDS.
cakedayin4years · 1 points · Posted at 00:52:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Winner winner pasteur-raised chicken dinner
idma · 1 points · Posted at 01:00:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
bovine university
robshookphoto · 1 points · Posted at 03:32:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If they have great lives leading up to slaughter, it is impossible to meet the world's demand for meat without dramatically reducing the population.
DrTurnAndBurn · -1 points · Posted at 22:34:04 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why?
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co0ldude69 · 12 points · Posted at 23:32:00 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, you are right, commonly farmed animals are capable of emotions like fear, joy, empathy, etc. just like dogs are. They can also obviously feel physical pain as well so the way they are treated is absolutely horrendous.
Say-It-Aloud · 3 points · Posted at 00:19:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure any animal can feel uncomfortable
cookedbread · 1 points · Posted at 23:17:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why not just give them a good life and not kill them? There are many benefits both morally and environmentally, and we don't need meat to survive anymore.
And before anyone says "because it tastes good", you obviously haven't had buffalo cauliflower "wings" yet. :P
ProfessorThursday · 3 points · Posted at 03:08:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We can't exactly let cows run wild anymore, they're too domesticated. They'd eat themselves to death if anything.
Wolf0_11 · 2 points · Posted at 00:56:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not many people would keep a cow as a pet nor will there be enough shelter like places for them. Plus they're rather big and need a fair bit of land like a horse. Sure their are some people out there that do have a pet cows, but they won't be able to hold all the ex-meat cows. Pigs might have a higher chance for being pets do to how intelligent they are, and there is indeed already pet breeds of pigs like pot belly or pygmy pigs. But again farm pigs used for meat are rather large and most people would not want them nor will there be enough shelter like places. Depending on how far we take this only plant food idea chickens might still be good for egg production, but male chicks aren't treated the best in that practice. Plus you still have all those anti-chicken fighting laws in non-rural areas that would be a hold up or prevent you from owning pet chickens, and again not enough shelter like places. On a final note farmers will not just keep their ex-livestock animals. It's their business and way of life, and they're not running a charity.
cookedbread · 2 points · Posted at 01:17:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It definitely wouldn't be an easy lifestyle switch, you're right that it's so ingrained into society.
Maybe I'm a dumb optimist, but couldn't all the issues you listed be slowly resolved given enough time and effort?
Wolf0_11 · 1 points · Posted at 01:29:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Possibly, but I don't really see that happening though. Even if we slowly fazed it out they would still butcher the cows and not fill in the void with new cows. Plus I don't think they would offer incentives to keeping cows alive/maintain current population do to the points above. And in my opinion I think it would be rather cruel as well to offer incentives to try and keep cows from being butchered if they don't have homes.
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cookedbread · 4 points · Posted at 01:08:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wasn't trying to be aggressive if I came across that way. Why would you get anemic? Lack of iron? Plants are a great source of iron if so.
Also I'm not sure food chains really matter anymore. Humans aren't at the top. We're below lions on the food chain for instance, we just don't let them eat us.
It's hard for me to talk about this and not sound like a preachy vegetarian or w/e. I eat out with people all the time who eat meat and I don't scream at them for murdering something. It's just that I ate meat for 24 years before learning that I didn't have to, and if I don't have to, what's the point of killing something. Cows are cute, man!
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cookedbread · 2 points · Posted at 03:07:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I respect your opinion, and I'm not the one downvoting you. I've never heard of people having to eat meat, so that's interesting. I've read a lot about non-meat diets and that never came up. I do see a lot of misinformation out there about how people need to eat meat so I just assumed that's what you were talking about.
AiliaBlue · 2 points · Posted at 04:49:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Less that they have to eat meat and more that they need certain levels of protein they can't get otherwise for various reasons - my friend, for example, has Celiac's, lactose intolerant to the point of illness, and can't have nuts for dental reasons. Once you knock out all of those options, he pretty much eats meat, some veggies (he's allergic to a pile of those too) and rice.
I have another friend who's allergic to dark green veggies, something that gives them that color. Broccoli, some lettuce, collard, etc. She probably couldn't be vegetarian easily either. Folks who eat no meat sometimes have hormonal issues (lack of testosterone, specifically), but that's probably sorted out with a balanced diet. And then there's financial reasons some folks can't be vegetarian - it's more expensive, and some people don't have the money and/or access to vegetarian foods that will fulfill the niche nutrient needs. Maybe, at some point in the future, but right now it's not possible for a lot of people.
We never did find out why vegetarian didn't work for me when I tried it - We think it was a combination of medication side effects and endometriosis/period issues. I haven't really tried again because I have other related beliefs - back to the (domesticated) apex predator thing, and that really we just need to be damn kind to the animals in the first place, and the US really just eats way way too much meat in general.
I don't really care about downvotes, I didn't even notice. But thank you for the sentiment. :)
SuperNinjaBot · 0 points · Posted at 01:29:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why? The people eating them arnt necessarily having great lives? Sure we shouldn't straight up torture them, but lets not bleed our hearts for them, when we are just going to bleed their hearts and eat them.
Plenty of animals dont even wait for their prey to die, most done care if they die or not before hand and others just kill non nonchalantly and then store it for later.
By a lot of wild living standards, our meat has decent lives. Sure we dont see it that way because we personify them pretty heavily. The majority of what we raise at least lives to adulthood. The same can not be said for most animals. Very fine line here.
mattkrueg · 69 points · Posted at 19:39:47 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Meat is meat.
Zigora · 55 points · Posted at 20:25:35 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Would you try human flesh?
kvltsincebirth · 87 points · Posted at 20:29:14 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would. It's been a curiosity of mine for couple years now.
seven3true · 25 points · Posted at 20:34:01 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
One of my toes spontaneously fell off. wanna cook it?
[deleted] · 52 points · Posted at 20:39:23 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
No, it's probably diseased.
seven3true · 23 points · Posted at 20:41:00 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Doctors don't know that yet.
Zigora · 9 points · Posted at 20:48:34 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Looking forward to hearing the test results, I will keep my mailing info at the ready
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 20:54:01 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
For those of you grossed out by his joke
PmMeYourUnclesAnkles · 2 points · Posted at 22:56:28 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Diabetes? Sweet!
tastyscavenger · 1 points · Posted at 03:01:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nah mang.
ImNotTheZodiacKiller · 13 points · Posted at 20:37:12 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
And I thought I was a psycho.
totallywhatever · 10 points · Posted at 22:17:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
As long as the person donated their meat willingly after they died naturally, I don't think it's crazy.
Aerowulf9 · 2 points · Posted at 01:55:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But itll turn you into a Wendigo! /s
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:43:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
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totallywhatever · 1 points · Posted at 02:35:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, that's a famous story. Wouldn't call that a natural death though.
It'd be like organ donation. On your license it could say you are both an organ and a meat donor.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:39:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I mean... do you guys see where this gradual leads?
Eventually the chain of meat leads here.
Herbivorasaurus · -1 points · Posted at 23:40:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cannibalism is still pretty fucked up man.
[deleted] · 7 points · Posted at 23:58:53 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why? What makes human meat any different than any other meat?
Rustnrot · 4 points · Posted at 00:37:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 01:39:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So what is so wrong with eating a person who you didnt know, died of natural causes, and allowed you to eat their corpse after their death? I get murdering a person for the sole purpose of eating them is wrong, but why in this scenario should it still be wrong?
Rustnrot · 2 points · Posted at 01:45:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:50:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh man i actually feel dumb right now. Totally misread your comment. I get the joke now, believe me.
quivering_manflesh · 2 points · Posted at 01:45:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ha. Took me a moment. Nice.
PearlTheGeckoGirl · 0 points · Posted at 23:39:48 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Same here.
Zigora · 2 points · Posted at 20:47:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Same.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 20:35:55 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I've heard it tastes like chicken, pork, or veal.
HappyFunMonkey · 10 points · Posted at 20:42:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pork actually....
Zigora · 8 points · Posted at 20:46:35 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've heard everything from chicken to pork to veal. But I think the majority of folk say pork. Either way, protein is protein.
[deleted] · 5 points · Posted at 21:02:36 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is it true you go crazy or is that just silly talk from a crazy person that ate too much human?
[deleted] · 11 points · Posted at 21:22:21 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yup, that's true, although it's generally from eating the brain matter or bone marrow since they can carry prion diseases (think brain affecting stuff, like mad cow disease).
wilderthanu93 · 1 points · Posted at 21:38:21 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
cannibals can get the shakes, which is an early symptom of neurological damage.
Scaletta467 · 7 points · Posted at 23:17:27 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Which would be a symptom of a prion disease, yes.
Roxnaron_Morthalor · 1 points · Posted at 21:51:51 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
from brain tissue you can get a disease along with some other parts (mostly organs) but if you eat the same parts as you would on a cow or a pig then you ought to be fine.
IAmASeeker · -3 points · Posted at 21:58:34 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
It is 100% true... but it also used to be 100% true that 1 puff of marijuana will make you go insane so take that with a grain of salt... or alot of salt, human steaks probably need salt.
ZulaRuvsTrees · -7 points · Posted at 21:21:42 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd imagine it's more of a mental breakdown from eating another person rather than 'poisoned meat'
Scaletta467 · 6 points · Posted at 23:19:23 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
No, it's because of prion diseases, like Kuru.
Zigora · 1 points · Posted at 23:46:28 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think you bring up a valid point.
SuperNinjaBot · 1 points · Posted at 01:26:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ive got some protein for ya.
ltethe · 2 points · Posted at 02:09:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Pasole. Is an amazing Mexican pork stew.
Back in the day, it was made with human flesh, and when the Conquistadors came through and banned fun things like cannibalism, so the Aztecs substituted pork, because it was most similar to man meat.
cynoclast · 0 points · Posted at 22:42:53 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
There's a reason it's called "long pig" and a reason you have to cook both pig and human thoroughly, it's close enough that we can share diseases.
TheLastOneWasTooLong · 0 points · Posted at 21:13:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mmm long pork
SquidSledge · 0 points · Posted at 21:40:50 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's called "long pork" by Caribbean islanders.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:53:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
People taste like pork.
Somnio64 · 1 points · Posted at 22:56:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
im pretty sure you get a nasty mental disease for eating human flesh
PostYourSinks · 3 points · Posted at 00:27:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's from eating brain matter
alamuki · 1 points · Posted at 00:15:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Try Spam Lite. I read a Reader's Digest article when I was a kid that claimed a cannabalistic tribe was given various meat products to try and they declared Spam Lite to be the closest tasting to human flesh.
I'd look for a non-anecdotal source but I'm on mobile and two Scotches in.
OptixEye · 6 points · Posted at 20:35:04 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Out of curiosity sure. In a survival situation definitely.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:15:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If I had to live through a situation that my last choice was cannibalism; I would probably choose to go on a starvation vision quest. because all hope would be lost.
2centsPsychologist · 1 points · Posted at 22:37:48 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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Bahamute · 2 points · Posted at 01:26:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Absolutely. I want to know what it tastes like.
mattkrueg · 5 points · Posted at 21:26:47 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would. I'll eat anything twice.
[deleted] · 3 points · Posted at 21:24:35 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's a good way to get sick
vanasbry000 · 13 points · Posted at 22:53:57 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Prions are the only thing you have to worry about, so long as the meat's properly prepared. They're defunct proteins that have a "healthy" version naturally produced by the host. The characteristic feature of prions is that they will deform their healthy cousins to become prions as well, ice-9 style.
Mad cow disease is a good example of a prion. It spread because some European farmers were feeding their cows small amounts of beef. Humans use the same protein as cows do, and so human health was compromised as well.
I imagine that the prion count follows an S-curve relationship. You'll be fine if you eat only a couple people (provided they aren't cannibals themselves), because while the prion count increases very slowly at first, ingesting too many of them will jump-start the process.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:46:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Prion diseases are so interesting and terrifying.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:29:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't that mainly a concern if you're consuming the brain and spinal chord? You'd probably be fine of you ate a big chunk of thigh meat.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:06:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Viruses, too. Lot more will be able to survive in a human body than what you would usually find in meat.
H2Sbass · 1 points · Posted at 11:48:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
All ethics aside, this may be bad for chemistry reasons. Sort of like how you're not supposed to give cows feed containing cow by-product due to risk of crutchfeld-jacobs (sp?) aka mad cow disease.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:42:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I definitely would, providing it was from a healthy person and I wasn't about to be arrested for it.
I'v heard the palms of the hand are supposed to be good.
I burned my hand with a soldering iron once and I smelt great.
I'v been told by people who've dealt with burned corpses that they smell just like gammon too.
Zigora · 1 points · Posted at 18:01:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So you're saying you would try it? BUT YOUR NAME CONTAINS "BABIES ARE TASTY"? Guys, we got a big fat phony over here!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:30:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I got fat off eating babies too.
wolfydude12 · 1 points · Posted at 20:39:41 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
As long as you dont eat the brain (I think another organ as well), nothin happens! Tastes like chicken
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:37:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well I mean... if it was legal and willingly donated, I would try it just to know its taste then probably proceed to feed sick, paranoid, and like a traitor because I ate one of my own species.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:29:40 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yea probably
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Dhoulmaug · 0 points · Posted at 23:40:24 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tastes like chicken.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:41:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depends on the circumstances. Starved and having nothing to eat, also not killing the human myself? Yes. Otherwise risking diseases and killing human life and having a lack of respect for the dead are more than enough to drive me away.
PmMeYourUnclesAnkles · 0 points · Posted at 22:55:22 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Vegetables want to live too.
Glorthiar · 17 points · Posted at 00:08:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If you flip the Horse and the rabbit i'll draw the line at the rabbit, also this is bullshit, Cat-dog-cat-dog-cat-dog-bunny-horse-chicken-cow-pig-cow-duck? what fucking order is this in? Firstof all 1 cat, 1 dog, and 1 cow: as to not skew your fucking data. Also, it makes no sense either, just because I would eat the rabbit does not mean i'm going to eat the horse and pig! To shame of whatever morons tried to create this ridiculous add.
ms-infinity · 1 points · Posted at 05:58:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is pretty damn tasty.
basado · 12 points · Posted at 01:23:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Did anyone even laugh at this post?
curmudgeonlylion · 3 points · Posted at 00:10:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not in Quebec, they like their horsemeat and their rabbits/hares.
whipsorrow · 3 points · Posted at 05:17:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Slide that rabbit over to the right a bit
lexfry · 3 points · Posted at 08:17:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
we dont have to draw the line, people figured out who tastes best a long time ago and if dog tasted good and pig tasted like crap we'd have hogs on the couch and dogs on the dinner plate.
Btb557 · 7 points · Posted at 03:03:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I thought this was pretty sad actually. I'd love to stop eating meat.
NoGod4MeInNYC · 2 points · Posted at 07:17:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Take shrooms and watch planet earth, that's what did it for me lmao
Btb557 · 1 points · Posted at 10:04:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Taken plenty lol, it's just a big step. I'll eventually graduate to doing so, as of now I've already eliminated chicken from my diet. I think I'll go to the point of all meat minus fish since Kurt Cobain said it was okay.
NoGod4MeInNYC · 1 points · Posted at 16:43:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Good luck :D
If you're serious about it definitely check out the documentaries Earthlings, Forks over Knives, and Cowspiracy. Crazy shit.
Tsorovar · 1 points · Posted at 06:28:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So what's stopping you?
Btb557 · 3 points · Posted at 06:51:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I dunno really, laziness mostly if you'd like the truth. Lack of diet knowledge and somewhat based off of my income. Meat is fairly cheap and a large meal goes for days, regardless of that I guess other options would too. Maybe just the enjoyment, I'll never transcend to greatness.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:58:58 on May 29, 2016 · (Permalink)
A little late, but try Meatless Monday!
It's one of the easiest ways to start making any kind of transition. Just ease into it.
When I started, I used to bite my nails until midnight and then order chicken wings because I was craving meat so bad! But don't worry, get in the routine of Meatless Monday and the cravings start to go away.
Send me a PM if you wanna know anything about anything!
10_Virtues · 16 points · Posted at 22:48:59 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Move the line 2 more spaces to the left and we're good.
resilience0405 · 23 points · Posted at 01:03:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wow a joke about meat eating. So edgy.
Vegetarians are dumb, right? /s
klethra · 7 points · Posted at 01:55:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The veg*n lifestyle is a hot topic over the last few days. Use it to your advantage, and make a good impression. A lot of people are curious and interested, so the opportunity is ours to show why giving up meat doesn't have to be a sacrifice when they ask.
Ebelglorg · 3 points · Posted at 10:06:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They put the sign up. They're asking for it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:57:41 on May 29, 2016 · (Permalink)
Asking to be ridiculed with zero substance? No.
Asking to be criticized and objected to? Yes.
But making dumb jokes is not a criticism or objection.
Cymen90 · 3 points · Posted at 13:04:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If they believe their diet gives them the moral highground, yes they are.
[deleted] · 4 points · Posted at 05:00:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure it wasn't a carnivore that put up the stupid sign asking to be made fun of.
[deleted] · 9 points · Posted at 03:23:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Its really surprising how irrational reddit gets about certain issues. I don't think ive ever seen a popular reddit post that says something intelligent (or intelligible) about the ethics of eating animals. I've also seen a fair amount of shaming anyone who attempts to bring up the topic.
I personally think the vocal majority of reddit just doesn't want to talk about it because they don't understand it. Getting in a discussion about it gives them the option of either (a.) Use vitriol and Trumpian logic to feel like they've "won" or (b.) Admit that real ethicists probably know more about it than their own gut instinct. I see a whole lot more of option (a.) mostly because it doesn't require any effort or positive qualities.
ViperT24 · 0 points · Posted at 05:34:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This whole thread leads me to wonder if Reddit isn't just all bots. It's literally just the same two or three posts repeated with slightly different wording ad infinitum
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 16:38:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The subtext is even scarier.
TheZombieHolocaust · 2 points · Posted at 00:03:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
good job on making the line red
OMG__Ponies · 2 points · Posted at 00:39:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The short sci-fi story about meat.
JayKaye · 2 points · Posted at 02:06:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Move the line to include the horse! You are discriminating against the Dothraki!
Dioxism · 2 points · Posted at 02:22:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In Korea, this would be a menu.
Le_Skill · 2 points · Posted at 03:50:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's six dogs and cats what about gerbil and my pet rhino and my dinner giraffe
beastx24 · 2 points · Posted at 03:57:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What about the animals that we don't keep as pets or eat? Like honey badgers.
bdstrelkov · 2 points · Posted at 04:04:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
/r/CrappyDesign
huhwhatohhellnahohok · 2 points · Posted at 04:19:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fuck you chicken and fuck you cow!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 04:20:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If you were really hungry, that horse would feed a town.
imtoonewforthis · 2 points · Posted at 04:57:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where the fuck are the frog and squirrels...
jhuitz · 2 points · Posted at 05:22:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The rabbit goes on the righthand side...
Stormdancer · 2 points · Posted at 05:24:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
These are friends... those are food.
maxitobonito · 2 points · Posted at 05:24:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why stop at the chicken? Horse and rabbit are delicious, too!
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:24:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit should join the other side of the line I've seen them eaten enough to validate that.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 05:25:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love rabbit.
Greatgrowler · 2 points · Posted at 05:26:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Two to the left of that line.
FlappyFlappy · 2 points · Posted at 06:38:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In Europe that line seems to be two animals to the left.
linux1970 · 2 points · Posted at 12:09:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten horse and rabbit.
But seriously, generally we eat vegetarians. We don't eat carnivores and omnivores.
Dogs and cats are carnivores, so we don't eat them because it would be too expensive to raise.
Cows and chickens are herbivores, so they are cheaper to raise.
bob_mcd · 2 points · Posted at 12:30:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I recently had a rabbit ragu with gnocchi. It was lovely.
J0kerr · 2 points · Posted at 13:26:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would...try all of those.
Ferro_Giconi · 2 points · Posted at 14:20:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It bothers me the way they intentionally skew the results of the line position by putting in four dogs and three cats. That's completely unfair not having three to four breeds of all the others.
MrPresident17 · 2 points · Posted at 16:25:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit and horse are pretty damn tasty.
Xeonit · 2 points · Posted at 17:11:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Never tried horse meat? It's quite good. Rabbit meat is meh
duetmasaki · 1 points · Posted at 18:21:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I prefer rabbit but I've never had horse meat as I've never eaten at burger King in Europe.
Xeonit · 1 points · Posted at 18:27:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
lol :) by the way, are you implying that horse meat isn't good? In my experience it has always been pretty tasty, especially with spicy sauces
duetmasaki · 1 points · Posted at 23:42:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't know how it would be, plus, I like horses.
screwikea · 2 points · Posted at 17:32:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depends on how hungry I am.
coleosis1414 · 2 points · Posted at 17:08:24 on July 11, 2016 · (Permalink)
If I went to a foreign country and was served cat or dog meat, I would eat it. It was never my pet, I've never had an emotional attachment to the animal. Food is food. I draw the line at cannibalism.
crazyrandomnerd · 14 points · Posted at 20:23:37 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit stew is tasty
Pale_Kitsune · 4 points · Posted at 20:46:04 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, but some good ol' Carolina BBQ rabbit is pretty much one of the best things there is to be had.
TopographicOceans · 3 points · Posted at 22:02:11 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
You misspelled "wabbit".
Brakethecycle · 10 points · Posted at 20:40:40 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Swap the rabbit and the horse and then move the line over one.
_ThisIsAmyx_ · 5 points · Posted at 21:34:49 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hey, horse is pretty good if cooked right. Don't knock it til you've tried it.
code0011 · 12 points · Posted at 00:00:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well if you live in the UK and ate any food containing processed meat in the last decade chances are you've eaten a lot of horse
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:31:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I flat out don't like meat. If given the choice between meat and anything else I'll take almost anything else but horse is the one meat I've tried that I can honestly say is super tasty.
Evictiontime · 1 points · Posted at 03:34:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is there a huge difference between horse and beef? I figured it would be very similar with horse being leaner. I really like lean meat, but steak aficionados insist that flavor is in the fat.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 03:37:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have an awful sense of taste and I can tell a difference. Horse is for sure more flavorful. Added bonus that you aren't at risk of mad cow disease.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:00:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would eat horse. Can't find it in the US, though.
intentsman · 1 points · Posted at 05:37:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Might have to hunt and kill it yourself.
_ThisIsAmyx_ · 1 points · Posted at 15:38:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If you go to stores that sell wild game you can usually find some. I know the store Jungle Jim's sold it at one time because that's where I got mine.
bonerofalonelyheart · 1 points · Posted at 21:59:13 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
More like one half. Splitting rabbit down the middle seems appropriate.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:11:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Only meat-rabbits are good for food. Rabbits bred for fur, exhibition, or pets are not good for eating.
Benolio · 2 points · Posted at 01:47:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It should be at rabbit, although I'd swap the horse with the rabbit. Horse is delicious though, but admittedly not that popular. The first half of only cats and dogs is reductive. In all stupid.
jobbarsmart · 1 points · Posted at 05:55:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why should it be at rabbit?
noddwyd · 3 points · Posted at 23:22:18 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Should slaughtering be part of public education or is it just me? Seems like an important life experience and skill. Like "Oh yeah, by the way, you are a predator. Don't forget." Well, at least they do dissection usually.
co0ldude69 · 10 points · Posted at 23:41:59 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd wager most westerners don't hunt their own food. As humans we are also capable of transcending our instincts for a more equitable world.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:25:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Speak for yourself, city boy.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:04:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cows are the predators of grass.
chargoggagog · 3 points · Posted at 20:35:05 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbits are definitely food and not pets to me.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:55:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Opposite to me.
Microchaton · -7 points · Posted at 00:13:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
monster
Mstoxwastaken · 4 points · Posted at 00:43:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So you just cropped out the original persons tweet and made this your own? Shithead OP.
Ham-Demon · 3 points · Posted at 22:30:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depends on how hungry you are.
OmicronPerseiNothing · 2 points · Posted at 00:28:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh sure, but if one of them eats one of your babies, you people lose your shit. We have tons of excess humans, and lots of hungry animals. Give them a shot, I say!
PearlTheGeckoGirl · 2 points · Posted at 23:30:12 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
They didn't include anything besides mammals and birds. SPECIES-IST! Or maybe order-ist?
PandaCodeRed · 2 points · Posted at 01:46:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where can I get lizard meat? I'd like to try it.
PearlTheGeckoGirl · 1 points · Posted at 02:23:52 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't know exactly... some places in South America and Africa
japskunk · 2 points · Posted at 20:01:15 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse should be included! The original steak tartare! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
grapesoffun · 2 points · Posted at 01:10:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It is delicious and pretty available in Europe.
Not allowed to be sold in the US because the USDA doesn't allocate funding for the inspection of horsemeat. (Scroll to page 13 or ctrl + F for "horse.")
kuroninjaofshadows · 0 points · Posted at 23:39:25 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
One, I draw that line much more to the left, and two I find it hilarious they had to use so many different breeds of two species to skew the line so far right.
Snakeater20 · 1 points · Posted at 00:29:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Seriously if you are going to eat dog or cat why does it matter if it's a Sheppard or a chihuahua. Chicken is chicken I can't imagine one dog tastes different than another.
Aethermancer · 1 points · Posted at 01:03:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not all chickens are the same, but the US Is practically a monoculture when it comes to a lot of our livestock.
Nitrate6 · 0 points · Posted at 20:55:47 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is delicious.
redheadmuffin · 1 points · Posted at 23:31:15 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'll have a horse coke.
Xelevant · 0 points · Posted at 21:28:58 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse and garlic sausage is pretty tasty! And rabbit is to. (source : welcome to France)
wilderthanu93 · 2 points · Posted at 21:40:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Anything Buried in garlic and butter is tasty. That was how my escargot was dressed.
shyguy256 · 2 points · Posted at 00:08:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten horse, rabbit, and dog.
No ragrets.
hehbehjehbeh · 1 points · Posted at 01:24:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Whats wrong with rag rats?
berra2k · -1 points · Posted at 20:39:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd eat the horse too..
Makabajones · 1 points · Posted at 21:33:55 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'll eat both rabbit and horse. just saying.
K3R3G3 · 1 points · Posted at 00:32:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Am I taking crazy pills or was this posted this morning or yesterday in another subreddit with the same title?
Hamer098 · 1 points · Posted at 01:29:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Isn't the line already pre-drawn with the change in color of the arrows?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:37:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What breed is that gray cat?
ryan2point0 · 1 points · Posted at 01:54:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd eat any of em if I were hungry enough.
bdylan39 · 1 points · Posted at 01:57:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ehh, i like rabbit, and horse isn't that bad. A bit to much grease, but add some salt, cracked pepper, and garlic.
passwordismittens · 1 points · Posted at 02:04:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That horse is gonna eat that chicken!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:11:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They switched the horse and the rabbit. I always see rabbit on menus, it's great
notevil22 · 1 points · Posted at 02:12:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
that's about right. we do eat rabbit, but only if you hunt it yourself, I'm not aware of anywhere that you can buy it or get it in a restaurant.
running4mylife · 1 points · Posted at 02:14:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
that horse is going to eat the chick
hedic · 1 points · Posted at 02:14:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It should be a big grey block. I know people have had those animals as pets and I know people that have eaten all of them.
toeonly · 1 points · Posted at 02:17:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The rabbit and the horse need to trade places then the line can be moved back one animal.
catsarebetterthanppl · 1 points · Posted at 02:18:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This ad would've been more effective if they jumbled up the animals so that no one could draw a line.
On another note, I love chicken.
Connectitall · 1 points · Posted at 02:25:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And for the Chinese and Koreans it's the whole billboard and some
zachpoz · 1 points · Posted at 02:26:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
All things considered, I'm pretty sure I would rather eat a basset hound than a golden retriever.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:26:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Add a second line to the left of the rabbit. Within that zone they can commonly be food or pets
Kentopolis · 1 points · Posted at 02:28:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I take it you've never had a brace ah coneys before.
jbrittles · 1 points · Posted at 02:28:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would eat rabbit before a horse. I had some rabbit fried boudin balls at a wedding last weekend and they were the best boudin I have ever eaten.
esoper1976 · 1 points · Posted at 02:30:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
For my college graduation, I got a trip to Southern France with a bonus week in Italy (because it was my dad and step mom's favorite country). I spoke French pretty well at that time, and I had taken some Italian in high school, so I could speak a little of that too. We were eating at a restaurant in Italy, and I was trying to translate the menu. One item on the menu translated as 'horse'. I was just sure of it. My parents were sure I was getting it wrong. Then the waitress came and was helping us out and said that we probably didn't want to order that because it was horse, and we probably weren't used to eating horse. I felt vindicated! So, horse is definitely food in some places. Rabbit too. I guess dogs and cats too, so really, is there even a line?
Borderlesss · 1 points · Posted at 02:31:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
To the left of the rabbit, actually
RedditWolves · 1 points · Posted at 02:32:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
rabbit is pretty commonly eaten where im from, probably needs a circle around it followed by an arrow over to the line.
qpazza · 1 points · Posted at 02:33:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would switch the horse and bunny, then move the line over to the left one spot.
TheMaskedGorditto · 1 points · Posted at 02:33:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wonder where unpopular animals would be placed like spiders, cocroaches and skunks? Oh and fucking mosquitoes
ZiiHusk · 1 points · Posted at 02:34:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ehh, I'd probably stop at rabbit.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:35:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Typically, carnivorous mammals don't taste as good as herbivorous mammals. Omnivores (pigs, bears, some monkeys, etc.) also mostly follow this rule; a more plant based diet makes them taste better than a meat based diet.
Edit: I should read the rest of the comments before coming in this late.
Lotharofthehillpeple · 1 points · Posted at 02:36:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What about vegetables and plants?
They are alive?
imsecretlyadog · 1 points · Posted at 04:11:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Plants are not sentient nor can they experience pain. You knew that, though.
Sirjohniv · 1 points · Posted at 02:38:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Can anyone rearrange the animals based on their cultures custom? Where do you draw the line? Is there anyone here from Ethiopia who knows how to photoshop? Im curious as to which ones you eat
Dermannfrankverter · 1 points · Posted at 02:38:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not sure. Cats can be assholes sometimes....
gibson_guy77 · 1 points · Posted at 02:39:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Squirrel and Rabbit gumbo is delicious if you haven't tried it. They taste better than they look.
klaq · 1 points · Posted at 02:39:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
i eat the animals that we have bred to eat and im friends with the animals we have bred to be friends with us
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:40:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Slide it two more to the left, and you are good.
AtticaInTheAttic · 1 points · Posted at 02:40:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Let's be real. draw it after the retriever
pkonoff1234 · 1 points · Posted at 02:40:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit is eaten wayy more than horse
intentsman · 2 points · Posted at 05:40:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
To be fair, one horse has as much meat as hundreds of rabbits.
Glicerine · 1 points · Posted at 02:41:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why not both?!
mufinn119 · 1 points · Posted at 02:41:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I wouod eat all of them put a human on there and that would be where i draw a dotted line.
jobbarsmart · 1 points · Posted at 06:33:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes, but why would you draw the line there?
thetigerandtheduke · 1 points · Posted at 02:41:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd eat a horse. I'd give dog a try too.
redpillorkillme · 1 points · Posted at 02:44:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Even the sign imbalances this argument... a cow, chicken, pig, bull (?) and duck: to 3 cats, 4 dogs and a rabbit... (as an uneatan?) Dumb post, very dumb.
BJ_Farm · 1 points · Posted at 02:48:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Swap horse and rabbit, then move the line between the two
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:48:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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DrZed400 · 1 points · Posted at 02:49:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Keep going
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:49:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit taste like chicken.
CallingYouOut2 · 1 points · Posted at 02:51:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbits are totally on the wrong side of that line.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:53:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Move it two over, and it's fine.
hound1025 · 1 points · Posted at 02:55:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So I guess plant-life doesn't want to live? I thought we needed those green things to breathe.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:17:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We do, but when we eat them we put new ones in the ground so we can eat new ones again. However, mass plant farming comes with the fuckery of fertilizer runoff.
hound1025 · 1 points · Posted at 03:29:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That sounds sustainable... hmm, if only there was a way to have animals reproduce.
XperiMental21 · 1 points · Posted at 02:59:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Idk Rabbit is pretty tasty
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:00:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Circle that rabbit though, it should be on the other side of the horse..
jaketrunk · 1 points · Posted at 03:06:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't know rabbit can be pretty tasty
jubub52775 · 1 points · Posted at 03:06:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I need to live too. To live I need food. Animals be good eatin. Problem solved.
MarshallAlex919 · 1 points · Posted at 03:07:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I dunno man, you ever ate rabbit?
jaydogggg · 1 points · Posted at 03:11:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would have both horse and rabbit... Hell i might try dog too if i was alone on an island
Johannes_silentio · 1 points · Posted at 03:17:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If they were more honest, they would have put the pig next to the dog. My guess is—bacon notwithstanding—a piglet is going to survive the cut before a cow or chicken.
Ryulightorb · 1 points · Posted at 03:18:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
anything but the cat
BallShapedMan · 1 points · Posted at 03:22:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The rabbit is on the wrong side of the line
AChieftain · 1 points · Posted at 03:22:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've always found it pretty funny how people complain about other cultures eating dogs, horses, etc while America destroys cows, pigs, and chickens.
weedfarts · 1 points · Posted at 03:22:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They forgot Lamb
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:22:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit stew is supposed to be good! But then I'd have to accept that eating a horse is OK... Eh why not
sandleaz · 1 points · Posted at 03:25:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
People eat horsemeat in Iceland.
garyzxcv · 1 points · Posted at 03:26:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
funk so brother
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:28:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would not eat my cat, but I would eat cat. In the same way that, if I had raised a cow from a calf, as a pet, I would not eat that cow... but that would not stop me from eating other cows. It would not even stop me from taunting my pet cow with the hamburger I was eating, because I feel confident that cows do not realize what beef is, and because that would be hilarious.
On that note, I would not eat anybody else' pet cow, or cat, either. It's actually a very simple line to draw: Animal raised as food? Eat it. Animal raised as pet? Don't eat it.
CerberusC24 · 1 points · Posted at 03:32:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten rabbit before. Should be closer to the line than horse that's for sure.
Dominicmeoward · 1 points · Posted at 03:33:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cambodians draw the line all the way on the left...
JangoM8 · 1 points · Posted at 03:33:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My friend Jay Riemenschneider eats horse all the time! Gets it from his butcher.
silkysmooth99 · 1 points · Posted at 03:38:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'll eat rabbits though
spiritbx · 1 points · Posted at 03:43:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Put that bunny up there too, makes a nice stew.
allenme · 1 points · Posted at 03:49:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There is no line. Reason I don't eat dog or cat is cause carnivore meat is super tough and just not tasty enough. Also, I know tons of folkwho have pigs as pets
daggomit · 1 points · Posted at 03:49:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Swap the horse and rabbit and draw the line in between them.
DouJiYanLoL · 1 points · Posted at 03:50:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm Chinese we never cared for lines.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 03:59:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The fat tasty ones. Some animals make great pets. Others make great dinner.
huxrules · 1 points · Posted at 04:02:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Actually I was snuck some horse by some sneaky Icelanders once. It was pretty fucking good.
ImaginaryStar · 1 points · Posted at 04:13:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't draw any lines. You should be able to eat/pet anything you bloody want.
Yeah_I_Read_It_Did_U · 1 points · Posted at 04:13:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I glad you got the horses hoof in there i love jello
teamrudek · 1 points · Posted at 04:22:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think the bunny is on the wrong side of that line.
hooberjabber · 1 points · Posted at 04:25:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would honestly draw the line after the golden retriever
TeddyRichtofen · 1 points · Posted at 04:26:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But where does the horse draw the line?
chris1096 · 1 points · Posted at 04:31:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Am I weird that my line would be all the way to the left?
highrun00 · 1 points · Posted at 04:41:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not even a fair comparison. One example of a species would be right.
Moral_Gutpunch · 1 points · Posted at 04:45:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Chicken and duck are on the wrong side. Make 'em lay eggs for years, then eat them.
Savage_Dorn · 1 points · Posted at 04:48:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Idk... horse and dog taste really good... I like making puppy jerky it is not to good because the flesh is not muscular enough but the flavors good in broths
complexevil · 1 points · Posted at 04:50:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Between the dog and the rabbit.
thespianbot · 1 points · Posted at 04:57:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Damn! I could kill a horse right now! EAT, I meant eat. I could eat a horse right now.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:05:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Screw that! EAT EVERYBODY
Chabshaile · 1 points · Posted at 05:05:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Said it before duck is the most food of anything to eat.
centopus · 1 points · Posted at 05:07:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nowhere... i do not disciminate... i eat them all.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:08:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
"We're all about protecting animals, but fuck those plants they're too different from us so we only revere life we can relate to."
Goddamned hypocrites.
skreww_L00se · 1 points · Posted at 07:00:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Plants aren't sentient
mefumeducrack · 1 points · Posted at 05:09:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The lines is right in the middle... I only eat horse because its a lot less expensive than beef and in Canada horse are transform into meat only when they die naturally or it needs to be killed for some specific reason (injury, sickness, etc)
charreddit · 1 points · Posted at 05:10:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's just a question of taste.
Off_And_On_Again_ · 1 points · Posted at 05:11:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The cat on the left is fucking huge
Kroto86 · 1 points · Posted at 05:12:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would circle the rabbit as they can be delicious
cedarpark · 1 points · Posted at 05:13:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Europeans - one animal to the left.
CYRIAQU3 · 1 points · Posted at 06:55:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
2
PorcupineTreeClimber · 1 points · Posted at 05:14:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But rabbit?
jimjamiam · 1 points · Posted at 05:16:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ya, that was pretty easy actually
vandoh · 1 points · Posted at 05:21:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Im just curious which tastes better... cat or dog?
quindraco · 1 points · Posted at 05:28:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've always wanted to try horse.
AusMaverick · 1 points · Posted at 05:47:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Definitely tried horse in Japan. Shits all muscular and gross yo!
ChixChix · 1 points · Posted at 05:31:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
But cmon, Chicken is tasty and I think the person to chicken ratio is like 1:9 or something like that. All I'm saying is chicken heavily outnumbers people
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:41:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm so hungry I could eat the arse out of a low-flying duck? Does that somewhere on the line?
skoorbevad · 1 points · Posted at 05:45:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd be willing to go farther.
chucara · 1 points · Posted at 05:46:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Between the brown cow and the white cow..
tomsup4 · 1 points · Posted at 05:46:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'll take the bunny too though.
varikonniemi · 1 points · Posted at 05:48:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You never ate horse meat? Weird.
CaptIncorrect · 1 points · Posted at 05:51:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nah. Rabbit and horse are common in the grocery store here.
Kojima_Ergo_Sum · 1 points · Posted at 05:54:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Drop it back two. Horse and rabbit are both delicious
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 05:56:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why is chicken before cow?
yakayasub · 1 points · Posted at 05:57:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
People eat rabbits and horses...its common. The rabbit more than the horse, but still its..
TFJesusClaus · 1 points · Posted at 05:57:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That line needs to move left by two animals
Comtesse_de_Lancret · 1 points · Posted at 05:58:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is exactly where I draw the line.
traditions · 1 points · Posted at 06:01:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I drew the line after the retriever because bunny and horse meat is delicious.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:08:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In Italy we eat horses and rabbits too.
UzerNameChecks0ut · 1 points · Posted at 06:10:32 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What line?
fetchlycosfetch · 1 points · Posted at 06:10:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In France we eat horses and rabbits. And snails. And frogs. Hedgehogs. Almost anything, in fact.
SavageDark · 1 points · Posted at 06:11:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
id eat like any animal once
acerebral · 1 points · Posted at 06:13:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would actually draw it to the left of the rabbit. Yes, horse meat tastes good.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:13:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd consider going two more to the left.
ashter87 · 1 points · Posted at 06:15:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Move the line two animals to the left. And put some antlers on that horse.
Isaacvithurston · 1 points · Posted at 06:15:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pretty sure it should go duck-> rabbit -> horse -> cat if they are ordering it by edibility.
BigSteffen · 1 points · Posted at 06:17:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Naaahh - horse steak and bunny are pretty tasty too :)
D-Dangerous · 1 points · Posted at 06:21:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Two of the cats look like the internet sensations, Maru and the one whose owner makes funny videos of his emotions.
imaynoticethings · 1 points · Posted at 06:32:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is supposed to be pretty lean if I'm not mistaken
armorine · 1 points · Posted at 06:34:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
that line needs to skip 2 places to the left.
User_oz123 · 1 points · Posted at 06:39:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This sign
grewapair · 1 points · Posted at 06:44:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
One of the most hilarious Web court cases was the "people eating tasty animals" case. In the early days of the Internet, some jokers registered Peta.org for their organization, "people eating tasty animals" so that anyone looking for "people for the ethical treatment of animals" would land on their site and be horrified.
PETA sued and won the domain name.
HettySwollocks · 1 points · Posted at 06:46:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sorting algorithm is incorrect. Needs to be applied regionally
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 06:50:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Since when is duck higher on the food-o-meter than cow, pig or chicken? I mean, sure, people eat duck, but cow, pig, and chicken are probably the three most consumed animals on the planet.
Majed0 · 1 points · Posted at 06:54:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would eat rabbit and horse actually.
ISBN0916291456 · 1 points · Posted at 06:54:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
2.7 million unwanted shelter cats and dogs were euthanized last year. (Source: ASCPA website). They could have at least been food; what a waste.
on1879 · 1 points · Posted at 07:03:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit and horse are pretty tasty...
sebwise · 1 points · Posted at 07:05:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's mean... And by that I mean the mean. I'd happily eat a rabbit and a pet pig would be awesome.
YakiVegas · 1 points · Posted at 07:06:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I occasionally like to remind my Vegan acquaintances that the only reason they are smart enough to be all superior is that their ancestors ate meat. Their brains just simply wouldn't have grown large enough without the protein from meat.
DerNeander · 1 points · Posted at 07:15:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd eat horses. And cute little bunnys. But not dogs. That's where I draw the line.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 07:16:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I eat both rabbit/hare and horse meat quite often so I'd move the line two animals to the left. Mmmmmmhorse.
Corruptyyy · 1 points · Posted at 07:27:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Accuracy is key
ITGSeniorMember · 1 points · Posted at 07:27:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten everything to the left of that line except cat.
ManlyMrManlyMan · 1 points · Posted at 07:29:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Mine is two snippets to the right. Horse is delicious and rabbit too.
teamsacrifice · 1 points · Posted at 07:30:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Idk. Fried rabbit is rather good.
Kamon23 · 1 points · Posted at 07:35:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
In china the line is much further to the left. Check mate world.
YerrytheYanitor · 1 points · Posted at 07:38:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah I saw this on Facebook earlier too!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 07:40:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
A man draws no line.
eve1511 · 1 points · Posted at 07:42:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What a pity ! It cannot be a line between them!
eve1511 · 1 points · Posted at 07:42:12 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What a pity ! It cannot be a line between them!
openly_curious · 1 points · Posted at 07:44:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
y are there 4 dogs and 3 cats and only one of the others? thees meals are rigged.
mackenzor · 1 points · Posted at 07:44:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
How many vegans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
2, one to screw it in, the other to Google if the bulb was vegan
skylorddragon · 1 points · Posted at 07:46:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yuo can keep a chicken or a pig for a pet. Though when you get bored with them eat them
Baconaise · 1 points · Posted at 07:46:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eyebrows dave, eyebrows.
KneelDatAssTyson · 1 points · Posted at 07:52:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Move the rabbit to the right please, delicious
eve1511 · 1 points · Posted at 07:53:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
you are crazy. There should not be a rank!
BizarroCullen · 1 points · Posted at 07:53:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I like how the the arrow turns pink under the lab, like "it can be" food
Zebrakiller · 1 points · Posted at 08:15:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
OP dos way better than me. My red line would have been before the grey cat.
hirimaru · 1 points · Posted at 08:26:41 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Am i the only one who was like i would eat all of them.
cha0sweaver · 1 points · Posted at 08:33:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
horse and rabbits are delicious too
Welsh_Pirate · 1 points · Posted at 08:38:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://cdn-webimages.wimages.net/051a60c5501495955733189d5f46df274c619-wm.jpg
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 08:57:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Include the horse and rabbit, bruh.
dimmidice · 1 points · Posted at 09:07:59 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
not me, horse and rabbit is delicious.
Adan714 · 1 points · Posted at 09:08:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse sausages kazy are strange but good. I would eat rabbit - why not?
After 6 months in India I cannot eat cows. :< They are too nice. Also, my guts protesting every time after I ate beef.
wartes · 1 points · Posted at 09:08:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
it's true ((
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:12:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nah, two animals to the left.
Orangebeardo · 1 points · Posted at 09:15:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why so many dogs and cats? They have only one of each of the ones we're supposed to feel pity for.
There is in all honesty though no problem with eating any animal... The hypocrisy here isn't that we're eating cow/chicken etc. It's that we won't eat dogs and cats.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:25:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well I would move it a couple of spots to the left because horses and rabbits are fucking delicious.
Never understood this Anglo-saxons thing against horse meat.
chambertlo · 1 points · Posted at 09:41:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I read once that the only thing with legs a Chinese person won't eat is a chair. So, apparently, the line does not exist for some people.
samamp · 1 points · Posted at 09:42:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
bunny and horse is still good meat.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 09:45:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten rabbit and horse. Both are delicious.
stromm · 1 points · Posted at 09:49:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse meat is much better than beef.
Sorta like Bison, but with a sweetness to it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 10:17:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why was the horse left out?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 10:44:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
To be honest, if you haven't eaten a horse or rabbit you're missing out.
Both are delicious.
Frank_DaBoss9 · 1 points · Posted at 10:52:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd eat horses and rabbits too
NbKirk · 1 points · Posted at 11:08:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit is delicious tho..
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 11:15:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We need to make a cow that wants to be eaten.
AlexWantsToWatch · 1 points · Posted at 11:18:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not if you are asian
dontneeddota2 · 1 points · Posted at 11:26:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Three cats and four dogs but only one of each of the tasty ones? Yeah that's not a proper representation at all!
Also move the line two to the left.
ClockworkAeroplane · 1 points · Posted at 11:27:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You're missing out, then. Horse and rabbit are both delicious.
brunobits · 1 points · Posted at 11:36:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
never eaten a horse, but I'd eat the bunny
GlennyBears · 1 points · Posted at 11:43:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit legs taste good though
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 11:54:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I always tell them : if meat's bad for you, then howcome it's food?
That usually shuts them up.
Benolio · 1 points · Posted at 12:04:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well eating dog/cat not only breaks western social sensibilities, but also tastes disgusting. Well dog does, and the process was also very unpleasant.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:08:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
"On a scale of cat to duck, how food is this?"
clackercrazy · 1 points · Posted at 12:11:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd put it two to the left.
Keydyek · 1 points · Posted at 12:23:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
About right at the bunny.
Gruntypellinor · 1 points · Posted at 12:41:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bulldogs are too gamey.
load231 · 1 points · Posted at 12:47:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What? Horse and rabbit are quite common meat to eat.
FosterTheFool · 1 points · Posted at 12:54:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've traveled quite a bit in my life. So yeah, move that line two to the left for me.
Vawnn · 1 points · Posted at 13:13:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
At the Golden Retriever. Horse and Rabbit are delicious.
Jantte · 1 points · Posted at 13:14:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hmm? Why not eat horse and rabbit? I eat those.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 13:26:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd move it two steps to the left
Pink_Skink · 1 points · Posted at 13:33:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The horse should be on the other side of the rabbit cause rabbits are tasty af
ajn19 · 1 points · Posted at 14:22:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
So is horse so it's all good.
Pink_Skink · 1 points · Posted at 14:32:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Never tried it! Somehow I would find it weird to eat horse but love eating rabbit, duck, boar, etc.
hermitxd · 1 points · Posted at 13:35:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is that a rabbitt on the left side? I love rabbit.
I'd probably try horse too if i'm being honest.
joalro · 1 points · Posted at 13:42:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've tasted everything to the right of the retriever.
Awkn · 1 points · Posted at 13:42:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This is 2 positions too far to the right.
thelink4444 · 1 points · Posted at 13:43:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
World line chart : https://imgur.com/6SRLnIm
vze33jng · 1 points · Posted at 13:44:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I want to eat that horse-sized rabbit! Yum!
jabateeth · 1 points · Posted at 13:48:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would move that line to the left 2
arguile-king · 1 points · Posted at 13:51:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabits are actually excellent food! They taste delicious
JonnyP1114 · 1 points · Posted at 13:53:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I dunno, they all look pretty tasty to me.
bungle-for-president · 1 points · Posted at 13:53:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't discriminate. All are welcome
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:01:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Flip the horse and rabbit and stick the line there
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:05:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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scgoodolboy · 1 points · Posted at 15:39:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
As many sketchy oriental restaurants as I've eaten at I'm sure I've eaten cat and possibly dog too. I just don't want to know it. As long as it's flavored well.
InverurieJones · 1 points · Posted at 14:25:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Two places to the left.
misterwizzard · 1 points · Posted at 14:26:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If I were legitimately to a point where I needed to kill to eat, I'd eat anything in that picture.
Hoinah · 1 points · Posted at 14:33:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This billboard makes some pretty dangerous assumptions. Without speech or complex neural interfacing, how can you be sure that they want to live? Perhaps animals are like Meeseeks, they exist to no longer exist. Survival instinct could simply be a built in destiny seeker, requiring that animal to exist until the appointed time when their chosen was in need of their sustenance?
PES1985 · 1 points · Posted at 14:37:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would be willing to eat the rabbit... so I guess according to this I should be willing to eat the horse as well. OK, if they say so...
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 14:42:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
rabbit and horse are both delicious.
zerbey · 1 points · Posted at 14:48:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I dunno, there's good eating in a rabbit if cooked well.
scgoodolboy · 1 points · Posted at 15:35:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit is great. Turtle stew is pretty good. Rattlesnake ain't bad. Of course venison is one of my favorites.
Pestnumerouno · 1 points · Posted at 14:50:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is it just me or does anyone else wanna know what horse tastes like
eldare · 1 points · Posted at 14:52:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I' so going to hell for upvoting this
eldare · 1 points · Posted at 14:53:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They should post it in China
tmoney645 · 1 points · Posted at 15:14:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I will take it down to the rabbit.
JeFTSJ · 1 points · Posted at 15:31:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse meat is incredibly tasty, and rabbit is fair game. Two places to the left for me
Rbox · 1 points · Posted at 15:32:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd like to believe I've eaten more rabbit than horse, but maybe that's not true.
MistaJenkins · 1 points · Posted at 15:43:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why do people complain about PETA's kill shelters so much? I personally think PETA is one of the stupidest organizations, but they have it right when it comes to euthanasia. One feral cat or dog is an ecological disaster. Since it isn't legal to "hunt" these overpopulated animals, that was the next best thing to do. Sure it's sad as hell and it's not the animals' faults, but there just aren't enough people and resources to care for all of them.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:54:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why no rabbit and horse? Horse meat is my favorite and I eat it at least once a week. Rabbit not really my taste but a lot of people like it.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 15:58:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Swap bunny and horse. Bunny is food too.
echo_61 · 1 points · Posted at 16:43:30 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd go two to the left.
Drum_Stick_Ninja · 1 points · Posted at 17:16:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bunny should be on the other side of horse.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 18:06:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The islander in me is begging it to go a few more to the left. haha
Shadoe17 · 1 points · Posted at 18:17:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit is on the wrong side of that line. Mmmm, MMmmmm Good.
Abrannan00 · 1 points · Posted at 18:44:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tesco wouldn't draw it there...
u_n_d_e_r_s_c_o_r_3 · 1 points · Posted at 23:34:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We've all had horse mixed in our mince at one point or another, we've all mostly survived so far, nay?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 23:16:27 on May 27, 2016 · (Permalink)
Technically if you've eaten some burgers in the UK, you might be able to draw the line left of the horse...
Btb557 · 1 points · Posted at 10:59:03 on May 29, 2016 · (Permalink)
So what are you saying? Basically just slowly make the transition? Say take a day monthly you stop eating meat entirely? Like for an example, May you're not eating meat Monday of every week then June you're doing Monday and Tuesday?
laxdstorn · 2 points · Posted at 22:58:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
They can all be pets and they can all be food. It all depends on the circumstances.
TKean · -2 points · Posted at 20:33:57 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Repost
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:24:04 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit's pretty good. Plenty of people eat horsemeat. Carnivores tend to taste like shit but some people eat dog. Not sure about cats
Crayshack · 1 points · Posted at 23:27:54 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
This actually explains my take on vegetarianism pretty well. The only differences is that I see it as "All living things want to live", a line up that extends from humans to yeast, and I draw my line two animals to the left to include rabbits and horses while vegetarians draw their line somewhere way down to the right.
hpdefaults · 8 points · Posted at 00:16:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The line is typically drawn at organisms that have conscious experience. It's arguable that a yeast, while it may be designed to perpetuate its existence, doesn't have the conscious experience of having a desire to survive.
knightshade2 · 0 points · Posted at 00:30:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It really depends on what you define as a desire to survive. Protectorates and unicellular Eukaryotas do fight to survive - which would imply a desire wouldn't it? It really is only a difference in perspective if we want to truly be respectful to life. A vegetarian also consumes living beings that fight to survive - it is just where you draw the line.
hpdefaults · 4 points · Posted at 00:44:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My point was not to get into semantics about what the word "desire" means, it was to point out what the reasoning behind veganism is typically based on, which is consideration of the interests of conscious beings.
knightshade2 · -1 points · Posted at 01:27:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Of course, and my point is that consciousness as criteria is in and of itself just another arbitrary line. There is no moral high ground in this. Just high ground on the food chain - which thankfully we have.
hpdefaults · 2 points · Posted at 02:48:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's a highly specious claim. Most moral theories take conscious experience into account in some manner or other. It certainly seems like a better criteria than simply "it's okay to eat animals because we have the power to do so."
knightshade2 · 0 points · Posted at 04:39:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hmmm...yep, arbitrary definition of consciousness - which is increasingly apparent as little more than a construct of chemical signals - that is a much better line to use.
hpdefaults · 1 points · Posted at 20:40:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm sure you'll consider it just as arbitrary if you have to have major surgery some day and need to decide whether or not you want to be conscious for it.
knightshade2 · 1 points · Posted at 20:50:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Your analogy doesn't make much sense - a more apt or fitting one would be to imply i will look at the world differently if a giant man eating plan decides to eat me. For what's it worth - I will probably feel on some level the same way that vegetable feels when you rip it out of the ground to eat it.
hpdefaults · 1 points · Posted at 21:31:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It wasn't an analogy, I was just making a side point that consciousness isn't just some arbitrary construct.
The vegetable most likely doesn't feel anything. Are you saying you wouldn't feel anything?
knightshade2 · 1 points · Posted at 01:12:30 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
Then your side point doesn't make sense to me - we clearly see this differently. If i can show you where your consciousness becomes little more than proteins triggering other proteins that trigger ions to move across a wall - and then show you similar but less involved mechanisms in plants, would you concede? I doubt it - descartes right?
hpdefaults · 1 points · Posted at 18:52:35 on May 26, 2016 · (Permalink)
Would I concede what? That's a completely different argument. That's saying that plants have consciousness as well, not "that consciousness as criteria is in and of itself just another arbitrary line." If it does turn out that plants are conscious (a claim that does exist in the scientific community, but is based on very limited, preliminary research at this point) that would certainly pose a problem for vegans who believe they aren't eating conscious things, but that wouldn't mean that the line was chosen arbitrarily, just incorrectly.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:56:43 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit and horse are delicious. That line isn't far enough.
thimblyjoe · 1 points · Posted at 20:59:59 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
The line shifts depending on hunger levels.
Bike_Mechanic_Man · 1 points · Posted at 21:50:10 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm sure they ordered the horse and rabbit as they did on purpose just to keep it from being an easy answer.
headius · 3 points · Posted at 23:02:50 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'll eat anything with or without a face.
youngbloood · 0 points · Posted at 22:33:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Two more to the left.
youngbloood · 2 points · Posted at 22:34:39 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Probably three if I'm eating questionable street tacos.
offthewall93 · 1 points · Posted at 20:51:03 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why is the golden retriever so close to food? And so much more food than other dogs?
patentspatented · 1 points · Posted at 21:09:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Right? that bulldog clearly has a lot more meat on him. I'd eat him over the golden any day.
AccordionORama · 1 points · Posted at 21:34:50 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Drawing the line at carnivores works pretty well most of the time. It greatly diminishes the parasite risk.
LysergicOracle · 1 points · Posted at 03:13:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
At least we draw a line. Before humans, life on earth was one giant, unadulterated killfest. Mammals eating reptiles, reptiles eating mammals, mammals eating fish, fish eating other fish... just animals endlessly eating other animals for 99.9999% of life's existence.
curiousjogo · -1 points · Posted at 02:03:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This shit really isn't a joke. You might as well put human beings on that billboard. What would be the difference? Animals suffer just like us and eating meat isn't something humans need to do to survive. There are vegan bodybuilders, power lifters, athletes, doctors, scientists, and philosophers. It won't make you weak. It won't deprive you of any vitamins if planned for appropriately. It won't take anything away from you. It is a conscious choice we continually make when we turn a blind eye to this inhumanity.
intentsman · 3 points · Posted at 05:37:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You keep humans as pets?
Vawnn · 2 points · Posted at 13:15:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Life consumes life. That's the way the world works. There are actually studies showing plants have reactions to stimulus and communicate with one another as well. In 30 or 40 years, when we understand plants better, your moral philosophy will limit you to eating nothing other than your own body hair.
curiousjogo · 0 points · Posted at 19:01:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The problem with this theory is that although plants are living they do not have a central nervous system and cannot feel pain and are not conscious. It's absurd to suggest plants have evolved to do so when they have not developed a survival instinct. For example if you hurt an animal it will cry out and run away. If you hurt a plant it does nothing. These are completely different. In addition, you can harvest parts of a plant with out "killing" it. If you are suddenly so #PlantLivesMatter think about this: The plant food grown specifically for animal agricultural far out weighs the amount of food needed to feed humans. Therefore, causing the least amount of harm would still be adopting a plant based diet (e.g. less plants would have to die) also fuck you for even suggesting such a retarded theory and wasting my time. You wouldn't feel the same way as if you decapitated your dog or cat as you would feel cutting your grass.
joshualander · 1 points · Posted at 02:11:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I could also live outdoors with the proper planning, knowledge and infrastructure if I wanted to.
Doesn't mean I'm going to.
[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 02:26:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
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curiousjogo · 2 points · Posted at 02:38:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Found the carnist.
PearlTheGeckoGirl · 1 points · Posted at 23:26:36 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah... if you live in the USA.
brettyrocks · 1 points · Posted at 00:03:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If I were to get hungry enough, there wouldn't be a line.
ukiyoe · 1 points · Posted at 00:27:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
We almost had hippo too, if it weren't for those crafty beef farmers.
Skaterk1ng · 1 points · Posted at 00:32:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
There are 3 dogs too many. Their point had been lost
Baker9er · 1 points · Posted at 01:03:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Im pretty sure its more about what animals and which meat is viable as food. We keep EVERY animal as a pet, we only eat certian animals though.
sniker77 · 1 points · Posted at 01:37:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
An argument can be made to put rabbit on the other side of that line. I mean, come on, who doesn't like a brace of coneys with their taters, precious?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:00:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Oh people will vehemently speak out about eating animals but then have no problem killing and devouring plants. Life is life, their line is just drawn at things that are further down the food chain.
Even if you became an oxygenarian for the rest of your (now short) life, your body will still murder bacterial life inside your body.
JustVan · 1 points · Posted at 02:27:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've eaten horse and rabbit, so I guess my line is a bit more to the left....
John_Bot · 1 points · Posted at 03:25:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The line is 2 over to the left for me...
IT'S A DELICACY IN PARTS OF BELGIUM, OKAY?
degenerateman · 1 points · Posted at 03:56:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I eat rabbit all the fucking time
Animals either give you emotional support, help you get food or they are food; they're all edible
zitfarmer · 1 points · Posted at 03:56:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Id draw the line horizontally, animals are delicious.
Bon_of_a_Sitch · 1 points · Posted at 04:05:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Swap the bunny and the horse, put a potbelly pig between them and draw the line centered on the swine.
Every animal has it's place in this world and for most it's between the mashed potatoes & green beans and under the gravy.
Vend_tech · 1 points · Posted at 04:13:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
God fucking dammit I hate activist vegetarian flawed logic.
Sheeps drink sheep milk,
Goats drink goat milk,
Humans drink..... Cow milk?! WHAAAATTT?!!!!!!
Crocodilefan · 1 points · Posted at 04:25:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If they didn't wanna be eaten why were they so delicious?
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:33:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd push it two to the left. I've eaten horse and rabbit, gotta say, not too bad.
xxViesczy · 1 points · Posted at 12:38:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Chickens exist solely to be eaten, if they aren't getting eaten by us they are getting eaten by other animals.
Vineyard_ · 1 points · Posted at 13:26:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Same with cows.
HankRHenry · 0 points · Posted at 20:29:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Keeping the horse foot in there. Nice.
Brett42 · 1 points · Posted at 23:20:29 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eat glue but not horse meat?
RefinerySuperstar · 2 points · Posted at 23:05:09 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think i draw the line if the animal is self conscious. Like chimps, elephants and dolphins.
ladymoonshyne · 2 points · Posted at 03:11:23 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Octopus and pigs?
Half-Assed_Hero · 1 points · Posted at 23:03:27 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Honestly I don't think there is a line. The difference between the animals I'll eat and the ones I won't is the individual animal, not species. They're all meat. Maybe I'm just more pragmatic than most on this issue.
mattro933 · -1 points · Posted at 23:12:58 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Swap horse and rabbit and i'll eat from the rabbit to the duck
zveroshka · -4 points · Posted at 20:24:16 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah, basically draw the line where animals were domesticated for food and not as pets.
SemolinaPilchards · -1 points · Posted at 20:55:21 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
If wr weren't meant to eat animals, then why are the made from food?
co0ldude69 · 3 points · Posted at 23:35:23 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
You tried.
Tatortot15 · 2 points · Posted at 01:50:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
And failed
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 00:42:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I feel like the people who insist animals like cows, pigs, ducks, and chickens are pets, have never had them before.
I've had ducks, geese, and chickens. They are definitely not pets. Fun to have around, at times, yes, just like your crazy neighbor. Roosters and geese are the most bipolar assholes on the planet. Tasty bipolar assholes. Chickens and ducks tend to be more mellow, but still aren't very trainable, and are very very stupid. Wonderful tasty eggs though.
Pigs fall in that perfect half pet half food gray area. They are trainable enough that they can make a very good pet to an experienced pet owner. However, they aren't as domesticated as cats and dogs, so a large breed is very dangerous. Like working dog breeds, pigs are not a typical ideal pet for someone getting their first or second animal.
Rabbits as pets are dependent on if they're bred for pet or bred for food (the latter being known as farmed or meat rabbits). Rabbits specifically bred as pets are of course not going to have the same meat and fat quality as meat-rabbits. They also grow too slow or require a lot more care than is feasible for a farm. Meat-rabbits tend to be a lot like chickens actually. They grow fast and fat, a lot of meat, and have high reproductive rates. They also have very short hair, normal sized legs, and non-floppy ears - all necessary to allow for minimal care, just like commercial farm chickens don't have the fancier plumage of heritage breeds and exhibition fowl. And just like commercial farm chicken, temperament wise, meat-rabbits are not ideal pets. Very not-docile and more willing to bite.
I'm not patient with veganism or "save all the animals!" types. To me, those people don't have a fucking clue about animals, their characteristics, or the required care. They're like the people who have romantic ideas of giving up everything and sailing around the world - without the experience necessary to operate a sailboat and keep yourself from sinking or getting lost! There's a HUGE difference between the fantasy of Babe and Charlotte's Web, and the reality of farm animals.
Flyingpigfriend · 1 points · Posted at 01:19:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I get that a lot of people are clueless about livestock or how to raise animals but that doesn't mean there is no merit to going vegetarian or vegan. I firmly believe the environmental benefits of going vegan are significant and if more people did it we would be better off in a lot of ways. That being said, I'm not vegan nor do I ever see myself giving up meat. It is something worth considering if you have the fortitude to do so, and you shouldn't write it off just because some vegans are a little preachy.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 01:29:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Uh huh. I'll go vegetarian/vegan when the sun consumes the Earth. I don't hate myself to give up, milk, cheese, eggs, bacon, honey, beef, tendon, shellfish, BBQ, pulled pork, roasted chicken, turkey, turkey gravy, meat loaf, oxtail, balut, rabbit, chicken wings, and all the other wonderfully tasty cuisines from the plethora of cultures we have on this planet.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:27:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think you're misunderstanding the reasons behind veganism/vegetarianism, and also the reason behind this billboard.
Vegans/vegetarians don't care about which animals require what amount of care or which make good pets. They just don't want them killed or harmed.
The billboard isn't saying farm animals make good pets. It's asserting that the reason we don't eat certain animals is more cultural than logical. THAT'S what we should be arguing.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 01:33:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The idea that we can all just stop eating meat is as logical as vaccines causing autism. It's also very disrespectful of the many many cultures around the world. Food is a very important part of culture and religion, you can't just expect people to give that up.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 01:54:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lots of terrible things are "important part[s] of culture and religion". Female genital mutilation, animal or human sacrifice, self-flagellation, suicide bombing etc. So the fact that something is culturally or religiously important doesn't make OK to do.
As far as the making everyone be vegetarian: it could happen given a long enough time. Same with any other idea like evolution or religions or politics. The goal of anyone with an agenda is to spread it to everyone. So there's no reason to dislike people trying to spread their agendas. Unless they try to force the issue, of course.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:01:06 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Suicide bombing and genital mutilation is not part of normal culture - those are perversions of culture purported by religious extremists and terrorists. You're just making racist shit up to justify veganism.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:46:36 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Now you're misrepresenting what I'm saying. I listed off those things and followed it with "so the fact that something is religiously or culturally important doesn't make it OK to do". I didn't follow it with "so veganism is good". I'm not even a fucking vegan.
What I'm trying (and failing) to say is that vegans/vegetarians think that the animals we eat are a cultural choice, and that cultural choices are not necessarily good choices (for example, the other two example in my list that you didn't mention) Do you take issue with any of that? We can argue about FGM and suicide bombing another time.
Tatortot15 · -1 points · Posted at 01:59:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Giving it up isn't the problem. Not giving a rat's ass about its treatment while it's alive is the problem. If everyone respected the animals they raise for food, and gave them some form of a good life (no matter how small) things would be okay.
But when chickens are having their legs broken, pigs are having their testicles burned off, and cats are being skinned alive and thrown around, some of us are going to have a problem with that. The fact that everyone doesn't is a whole new problem.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:05:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You need to look up the definition of strawman argument, seriously. Because that's what you're doing. I have no interest in arguing with someone who doesn't stay on topic.
Tatortot15 · 0 points · Posted at 02:17:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
I wasn't intending to be off topic. I was just explaining how although expecting the world to stop eating meat is ridiculous given peoples cultures and preferences (like you said), it wouldn't a problem if the animals were raised humanely to being with.
That is not off topic.
Tatortot15 · 0 points · Posted at 01:54:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Well I guess since some animals are less domesticated, harder to train, or unintelligent, we should just kill and eat them inhumanely. They don't deserve a life because they aren't easily domesticated.
Edit: Feel like I should clarify that I'm not vegan or vegetarian. Just wanted to point out how silly that logic is.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 02:01:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You fail at strawman arguments, since it's pretty obvious I never said any of that.
Tatortot15 · -2 points · Posted at 02:04:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'll correct myself. You never directly said anything about those animals being used for meat, but that doesn't make your argument any less bullshit. No one said these animals should be pets like cats and dogs. The fact that they aren't domesticated or are hard to maintain doesn't make them any less entitled to a good life.
You either think otherwise or you fabricated this thought that people think cows are pets and wanted to disprove that. No one said anything about a cow using the litter box.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:06:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Straw man
Tatortot15 · -2 points · Posted at 02:10:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yes I can see that. Glad you felt the need to define a word for me.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:27:24 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
If dog, cat or horse were delicious there wouldn't be any line... and I'd eat the fuck out of that rabbit.
Iamwomper · 1 points · Posted at 21:11:34 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
People eat horse all the time
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 21:13:57 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Indeed they do. I did not find it to my liking... though it may not have been the best cut of meat. Give me bison or elk anytime.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 20:44:14 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
OP is from the colonies. Europeans eat horses.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 19:52:42 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
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Zigora · 5 points · Posted at 20:26:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
You've obviously never known real hunger. But that's okay, it's a good thing :)
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:32:46 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Or the delicious taste of dogmeat.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:29:07 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
And in China?
renrenzi · 0 points · Posted at 20:47:49 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That line seems pretty well placed. Exept for the rabbit.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 20:59:45 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Good line placement. Maybe bypass the horse and add some rabbit ;)
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 21:01:51 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Prove to me my cat wants to live and simply isn't living!
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 00:30:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Prove to me that you want to live and aren't just a flesh automaton following conditioned scripts.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 04:15:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I want to live. There. It's an I think therefore I am situation. I cannot empirically prove my cat does not desire to live, or more important has an awareness of its own consciousness like we do, but I can empirically prove that humans are distinctly different just in our ability to write, and ponder existence. Meanwhile my cat is simply living. Full of emotions, full of desire for companionship and indulgence, but never has left behind something to empirically show questioning it's own existence and purpose.
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 12:04:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That you say I want to live doesn't prove anything. You can't objectively prove to anyone that you have a subjective experience. For all I know (and you), everyone besides me (you) doesn't have a subjective experience, and is just a biological machine that may have evolved to say things that make it appear otherwise.
Human beings just attribute a consciousness and subjective experience similar to their own to others that resemble them enough.
Aeolean · 0 points · Posted at 21:05:22 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Because "Fuck Fish"
NekoStar · 0 points · Posted at 21:09:50 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Honestly I'd eat horse... and i've eaten rabbit before, so... two spaces over to the left.
Bluedemonfox · 0 points · Posted at 21:44:51 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbits are actually really good, idk about horses but their meat is also eaten a lot.
DnDCattivo · 0 points · Posted at 21:59:29 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is great in gullasch, just saying.
PastaPappa · 0 points · Posted at 21:59:53 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where are the other birds? Goose, Turkey, Pheasant, Chucker, Peacock, etc. Also, goat, sheep?
HighOnTacos · 0 points · Posted at 23:29:08 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd totally eat horse, if it were raised for food and not a rider. Rabbit is delicious.
Hold3n · 0 points · Posted at 23:36:20 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd switch the rabbit and horse, THEN that's a pretty accurate line-up
elonardo · 0 points · Posted at 00:50:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
why does it need a line?
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:09:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit is on the wrong side of the line!
Lollipop165 · 0 points · Posted at 01:47:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Notice they use a piglet. Cause a real hog just isn't as cute!
[deleted] · -7 points · Posted at 21:06:16 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
The problem with vegetarianism is that it presumes that there are human beings with even a shred of decency.
FacetiousFenom · 3 points · Posted at 23:57:08 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
What's this supposed to mean?
OmicronPerseiNothing · 1 points · Posted at 00:25:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That comment doesn't make sense.
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 01:27:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
People kill animals and eat meat because we are generally gross and terrible by nature. A vegetarian can't escape man's basic nature no matter what they do.
OmicronPerseiNothing · 1 points · Posted at 01:33:52 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
"...generally..." So, you're saying there are exceptions! :)
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 20:44:09 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
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[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 22:35:54 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Damn, you're the coolest of the cool. Thanks for the story.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 22:50:16 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Way to be a dick for no reason. I'm sure that will get you far in life.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 22:52:19 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
It already did actually, but my reason was you're bragging about not being empathetic. I thought that was worthy of derision.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 22:54:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm not empathetic towards creatures that don't feel empathy. Perhaps their big, sad eyes pluck your heartstrings, but perhaps you are an idiot.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 23:13:28 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Man, you aren't funny or clever either. I'm sorry. You drew a shitty hand.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 23:15:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lol, I wasn't trying to be funny or clever. Life isn't a big joke to me like it is for hippie burnout losers like you. Sorry the band isn't working out but find a better coping mechanism.
[deleted] · -7 points · Posted at 20:49:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
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Valdrax · 10 points · Posted at 22:23:54 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's an anthropomorphism. There is no "higher" on the food chain, and diverse diet is just one of the quirks of being an intelligent species. Several apex predators have specialized diets.
Evolution doesn't dictate anything. It's just a process of adaptation to an available ecological niche.
Tatortot15 · 1 points · Posted at 01:49:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Thank you for teaching this fuckwad a thing or two. People who think like that are so out of line and clueless.
[deleted] · 6 points · Posted at 22:34:36 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
There is no such thing "supposed to." You're the one romanticizing things.
TacoRecon121 · 0 points · Posted at 20:35:43 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
What exactly is this an ad for?
intentsman · 1 points · Posted at 05:48:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Toying with people's emotions
lightknight7777 · 0 points · Posted at 20:45:05 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yep, that's the line though the horse should have been to the left of the Rabbit for complete and correct lining up.
To be honest though, I hear horse steaks are good.
PuppySnuppy · 0 points · Posted at 20:49:40 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Care for some Gopher?
blades46 · 0 points · Posted at 22:16:53 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
If we eat all the golfers who's going to play golf?
DonLow · 0 points · Posted at 20:49:58 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Gotta eat??
Jetatt23 · 0 points · Posted at 21:03:54 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
They even conveniently color coded the billboard to help draw the line.
colterpierce · 0 points · Posted at 21:04:50 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Maybe move the duck too.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 00:59:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Duck is actually pretty tasty. Not something you eat normally, but surprisingly good.
NeuroticTendencies · 0 points · Posted at 21:09:02 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just gotta swap the horse & rabbit. Lapin Liégois is possibly the TASTIEST dish I've ever had.
TaintedSpuds8 · 0 points · Posted at 21:25:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
"It will be a gradually changing spectrum..." "but you put cats and dogs in there multiple times in different spots" "fuck you, you just don't love animals"
brucetwarzen · 0 points · Posted at 21:50:38 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That silly horse is on the wrong side.
Nerdsbenerds · 0 points · Posted at 21:54:21 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well I shouldn't eat the horse (unless I had to). But rabbit is pretty good.
NeuroDeus · 0 points · Posted at 21:57:01 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit could might as well be our national dish and horse is considered a delicacy here when cooked correctly. (Malta)
IAmASeeker · 0 points · Posted at 22:00:26 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
My line is a little further back... I'd love to eat a rabbit and if other people were eating horse, I'd probably try it.
mkglass · 0 points · Posted at 22:44:17 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
TIL that Golden Retrievers are the best dogs to use as food.
PearlTheGeckoGirl · 1 points · Posted at 23:31:56 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I've heard it's Shar-Peis.
mkglass · 0 points · Posted at 02:14:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Not according to this billboard.
sufferpuppet · 0 points · Posted at 22:54:24 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd eat that rabbit, the horse, and probably a couple of the dogs too.
LordFlashy · 0 points · Posted at 23:05:50 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Move the line over a couple spaces. I've had horse and rabbit.
the_JohnLocke · 0 points · Posted at 23:06:01 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Well I dont know about horse meat, but rabbit is pretty tasty..
DPSOnly · 0 points · Posted at 23:14:10 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would say between the dog and the rabbit.
HaakenforHawks · 0 points · Posted at 23:21:42 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I had horse at a sushi restaurant once. It wasn't half bad.
mythroatisdying · 6 points · Posted at 23:26:00 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I once had a centaur at a Pho restraunt. It was half brad.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 23:22:16 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Honestly I'll try just about any food once as long as its, you know, "food" somewhere to somebody.
13thmurder · 0 points · Posted at 23:23:48 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
I bet these hypocrites have house plants.
pesmerga2007 · 0 points · Posted at 23:28:47 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Eh. I would eat horse.. From what I understand American Mustang used to be a real delicacy until the social stigma happend.
TheonsPrideinaBox · 0 points · Posted at 23:32:04 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
That is where my line would be drawn too. If I was literally starving though, anything that doesn't walk on two legs normally will be on the menu. Amputees and wheelchair people are exempt.
IdoBelieveSoYes · 0 points · Posted at 23:32:12 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse and rabbit are both delicious... try a couple more things and you are on your way to more protein options!
thepager · 0 points · Posted at 23:35:24 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Where's the bison? You can't forget about the delicious bison!
ImOnHereForPorn · 2 points · Posted at 00:32:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bison meat is SOOOOOO good. If anyone has never tried it I recommend you do so. It's like beef but much much better!
PM_Fake_Tits · 0 points · Posted at 23:50:25 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
What's wrong with horse and rabbit?
oonniioonn · 2 points · Posted at 00:24:34 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nothing. OP drew the line in the wrong place.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:03:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would eat the rabbit.
Ri7e · 0 points · Posted at 00:06:02 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
leftmost before the first animal, am Chinese
AKSasquatch · 0 points · Posted at 00:16:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
switch rabbit and horse, line to left of rabbit. yum yum in my tum tum.
fuckingnoshedidint · 0 points · Posted at 00:50:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have no qualms eating a cat or a dog, I'm just not convinced they would taste good. The other animals though, delicious.
NerdENerd · 0 points · Posted at 00:53:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I will eat rabbit and horse. Had horse sashimi in Tokyo and it was pretty tasty.
Imissyourgirlfriend2 · 0 points · Posted at 00:56:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depends on how hungry I am.
DrDudeManJones · 0 points · Posted at 01:18:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pop that line two to the left. I've eaten rabbit and I'd eat the shit out of a horse. Both are dumb animals.
Sibraxlis · 0 points · Posted at 01:35:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Shift that line 2 animals left please
StanleyDarsh22 · 0 points · Posted at 01:49:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
i feel like the duck should be next to the horse, i don't see people eating duck every day. chicken on the other hand should be in the ducks' spot.
this graphic sucks...
ZFrog · 0 points · Posted at 04:02:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit and horse are great meats. Horse isn't any more special than a cow. The horses for horse meat are raised like cattle.
felipusrex · 0 points · Posted at 04:20:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit and horse are tasty! So, after the dog.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 23:43:15 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)*
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[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 00:10:49 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Your thinking isn't black/white enough for these comments. Escape while you can.
[deleted] · 2 points · Posted at 01:22:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
The problem is, when I try to be really black or white I usually get voted down to hell because I picked the wrong side. :P
[deleted] · -3 points · Posted at 23:45:25 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
In China, they boil dogs and cats while they're alive because they think torturing them makes them taste better.
If that doesn't make you feel uncomfortable in some way, there is something wrong.
Ntghgthdgdcrtdtrk · 1 points · Posted at 00:02:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What makes me uncomfortable is bleeding heart unsubstantiated claims.
SuperFreddy · 1 points · Posted at 02:12:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yeah but you don't need to boil a cat or dog alive to eat it. That is not a necessary part of eating the animal. It makes me uncomfortable that people needlessly torture the animal in the process of getting its meat, but I have no problem with them eating the animal.
intentsman · 1 points · Posted at 05:51:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lobster also get boiled alive
[deleted] · 1 points · Posted at 02:13:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That makes me uncomfortable, but it doesn't make me think there's something wrong with eating dogs or cats, it makes me think there's something wrong with Chinese people.
Cristian888 · 0 points · Posted at 01:31:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
This thread is full of idiots, just look at one of your replies. It makes that person more uncomfortable that you may be telling a lie than the actual act of boiling a sentient being alive. Your statement is true not only of China but other Asian countries. These people all turn a blind eye to animal abuse, pretty pathetic. Animal rights groups are more hated than factory farms, wrap your head around that
Bebinn · -3 points · Posted at 20:45:35 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just switch the rabbit and the horse put the line between them and we are done.
rrrrickman · -1 points · Posted at 21:48:47 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Works for me,
kevknow · -1 points · Posted at 21:50:53 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Is that a Cat on the far Left? It's as large as the Bulldog!
Roxnaron_Morthalor · -1 points · Posted at 21:54:50 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
when it comes to meat I eat anything that mostly eats vegetables, predators is where I draw the line for land critters, anything in the water is fair game. also there is the food that my food eats that tends to be quite tasty if prepared correctly.
Slave_To_The_Siren · -1 points · Posted at 21:55:54 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Some were bred for their looks or abilities.. Others.. To fill my stomach.
DadJokesFTW · -1 points · Posted at 22:00:52 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
"Where do you draw the line?"
Depends. How hungry am I, and how hard is food going to be to find in the near future? Because that line moves further left the hungrier and poorer I get.
Phocas · -1 points · Posted at 22:03:28 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Reposting already? GFY OP
whatthewhattheshit · -1 points · Posted at 22:07:59 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Add horses for Japan, dogs for Korea, and... well everything except for the table for China.
[deleted] · -4 points · Posted at 20:56:36 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lol. Stupid.
FuckMyJobCC · 0 points · Posted at 22:37:23 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTwdg5nqscc Move that line over an animal!
lazyfrenchman · 0 points · Posted at 23:14:31 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Gross dairy cows are stringy.
rick2497 · 0 points · Posted at 23:24:42 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Move the horse next to the Goldy and the line will be right on. I draw the line at horses, though. To tough.
lurk-moar · 0 points · Posted at 23:37:56 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Actually rabbit should be on the other side of horse. They are by definition prey animals.
thekindred · 0 points · Posted at 23:46:29 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fuck that rabbit and horse are delicious.
rtfmnoob · 0 points · Posted at 00:00:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
One of the best culinary experiences is Basashi in Kumamoto.
choochy · 0 points · Posted at 00:01:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My friend Jay Remenschneider eats horse all the time, he gets it from his butcher!
mrmdc · 0 points · Posted at 00:01:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
i'd even move it over two places.
Oops639 · 0 points · Posted at 00:06:16 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It depends on how deep the snow is and when is spring coming.
7Mantid7 · 0 points · Posted at 00:06:44 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bitch right after the Rabbit! I want my spicy Second Aunt's Rabbit Chunks... wait that sounds way better in Chinese
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:08:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse fat makes the best french fries.
smokingbarrel · 0 points · Posted at 00:10:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would have never guessed that is how pets evolve into food.
Lithium7 · 0 points · Posted at 00:11:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would draw it much further to the left.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:16:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Can't say I've ever eaten yak. Seems like it would be greasy.
ShitiestOfTreeFrogs · 0 points · Posted at 00:17:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbit and horse should be switched. Maybe duck and chicken too.
evertith · 0 points · Posted at 00:23:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
They could have at least started off a bit more unique than cat,dog,cat,dog,cat,dog,dog
Supatroopa_ · 0 points · Posted at 00:29:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Hey glue is pretty tasty...
lg8urnt · 0 points · Posted at 00:29:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
this subreddit is sad, repost in less than 24 hours from blackpeopletwitter
Woah_Moses · 0 points · Posted at 00:31:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I would eat a rabbit and a horse....
Captain_Weezy · 0 points · Posted at 00:35:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If those guys don't got collars I say meat is meat! I love Chinese food!!
Sylvester_Scott · 0 points · Posted at 00:37:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Although a nice Hassenpfeffer once in awhile is kinda nice.
ajf104 · 0 points · Posted at 00:41:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is delicious and so is rabbit. Fuck the haters!
iamdoug · 0 points · Posted at 00:42:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
why is rabbit before horse...
drunkallwinter · 0 points · Posted at 00:47:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Two more to the left
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:48:09 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Switch around the rabbit and horse and then start there. I would eat horse in a pinch but typically more useful alive. Rabbits are just a plentiful source of good protein.
TheGoat_Eater · 0 points · Posted at 00:49:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My only issue is where they placed the duck :/
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:51:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
A little further to the left..
sfoxy · 0 points · Posted at 00:53:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Switch rabbit and horse, move line one to the left.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 00:57:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Bring it to the left two more. Rabbits are yum. Horses not so much.
ubspirit · 0 points · Posted at 00:58:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Funny, I draw the line two to the left.
Because rabbit stew is great and horse burgers are literally the best ever.
Brian3613 · 0 points · Posted at 01:00:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
....But a dog's got charm and personality. Personality goes a long way.
elshizzo · 0 points · Posted at 01:02:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd eat rabbit, but not horse. Hard to draw the line unless they swapped spots.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:04:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That's a pretty giant cat.
mad_nut91 · 0 points · Posted at 01:05:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Most food animal is duck. Got it.
irishink · 0 points · Posted at 01:05:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Ol' Bugs needs to be to the right of that line.
Kalzenith · 0 points · Posted at 01:05:43 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Move that line 2 to the left
edit: i'm downvoted, yet you can find horse and rabbit in god damn supermarkets..
FleaBass101 · 0 points · Posted at 01:06:26 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I get hungry enough I'll eat it.
wazzupo1 · 0 points · Posted at 01:06:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Put the horse to the left of the rabbit and we have a solid line.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:07:21 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why even draw the line ;) kappa kappa
brzk · 0 points · Posted at 01:11:01 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Glad the horse hoof was included, can't miss out on jello.
Lextauph12 · 0 points · Posted at 01:14:31 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wow they made that easy and not drawn to scale.
esteflo · 0 points · Posted at 01:18:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Sweet /r/blackpeopletwitter repost.
Bubbles_the_Titan · 0 points · Posted at 01:19:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I feel like rabbit and dog are more commonly eaten than horses. Cats too.
Elfere · 0 points · Posted at 01:19:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Rabbits really do taste like chicken.
sheldoneousk · 0 points · Posted at 01:20:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If I'm hungry enough any and all would look like supper.
Hepheastus · 0 points · Posted at 01:22:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
How did the rabbit get on the left side? That's the only animal up here that I have personally killed cleaned and eaten (grandmother cooked it).
zaphodava · 0 points · Posted at 01:23:03 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depends how hungry I am.
I generally would not eat an animal that would upset most people in my community, and I would not eat someone's pet animal except under dire circumstances.
Littlewigum · 0 points · Posted at 01:25:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love cats. I love eating good pussy.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:31:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Like I said on Facebook: depends on what country I'm in and how hungry I am.
noneof · 0 points · Posted at 01:32:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depends if I'm starving to death or not. If the only thing to eat is a rat then I'll eat a rat. If your hungry enough you'll eat worms or grubs. Bottom line is if you have a choice you'll choose your favorite. If not then eat what is available or starve.
SirDontavius · 0 points · Posted at 01:32:38 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'm so hungry, I could eat a. . .
littlebangerz · 0 points · Posted at 01:33:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
2 days in a row 2 repost on my front page :/
crunchymush · 0 points · Posted at 01:34:17 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Draw the line through the middle of all of them. If a food animal is treated humanely during it's life, I have no issues with any of them being consumed.
Vextin · 0 points · Posted at 01:34:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Why are ducks considered to be food more than chickens or cows or pigs or horses? I suppose duck is a very common food some places, but cow is a common food MORE places.
Tabnam · 0 points · Posted at 01:36:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Nice way of cutting off the caption and stealing the joke OP.
uberpwnzorz · 0 points · Posted at 01:38:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
PSA: Don't eat the cute ones.
LaughAlongWithMe · 0 points · Posted at 01:40:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I love rabbit. This line is wrong.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 01:42:08 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
All plants want to live, too. What's the difference?
Nocolas · 0 points · Posted at 01:42:46 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
All plants deserve to live
iizuna · 0 points · Posted at 01:44:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
theres a big jump from dog to rabbit... thats where my line is...
CrunchHardtack · 0 points · Posted at 01:45:07 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That was easy!
rockhopper74 · 0 points · Posted at 01:45:20 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That rabbit is on the wrong side fo sho!
milkandcoffee · 0 points · Posted at 01:46:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
in europe at least italy people eat horse
SpaceShipRat · 0 points · Posted at 01:48:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
two steps further left
fifteen_two · 0 points · Posted at 01:48:45 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
That cat is gigantic. It stands almost at tall as the cow on the other end. And that chicken. Fuck. I'd eat the shit out of some giant wings.
kentusmc · 0 points · Posted at 01:52:05 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd try the all once. Eat like Darwin!
ryan2point0 · 0 points · Posted at 01:54:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Yo that's discrimination.
TroofSaya · 0 points · Posted at 02:03:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Vegans. The other white meat.
ZsaFreigh · 0 points · Posted at 02:04:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tell it to the fucking lions, billboard. They kill more animals than I ever will.
Toker840 · 0 points · Posted at 02:06:19 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cats are stringy.
headgivenow · 0 points · Posted at 02:10:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Pretty sure dogs and cats are eaten in China...so they are all food. Mexicans eat horses. Rabbit is delicious.
Comradespectre · 0 points · Posted at 02:12:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I see no line i see both food and pet, just because our culture does not eat animals that we deem as "pet animals" that doesnt really make it wrong. After all we are animals just like them, yes more sentient but still animals
oldoldoak · 0 points · Posted at 02:13:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I draw it after the dog. For me, it's okay to eat rabbits and horses.
Polaris2246 · 0 points · Posted at 02:14:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If I was starving I'd eat any one of them.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:18:37 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
If they put some hippos and lions in there, that line might be a lot different. . . I would eat a fuckin lion.
bjnshannon · 0 points · Posted at 02:20:11 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I have a pet pig. But I still eat the shit out of pork. https://i.imgur.com/xCNhsWT.jpg
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 02:24:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horse is fucking delicious. Easily my favorite meat. I also love going to the track and horseback riding is super fun. I do it whenever I can. Horses are just all around great at everything.
Kelsadar · 0 points · Posted at 02:28:50 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My line is two to the left. Horse is actually pretty tasty...
curiousjogo · 0 points · Posted at 02:28:51 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Except living outdoors isn't really an option for humans unless you are going feral. Living outdoors also doesn't prevent the suffering and death of animals. You might as well say you could live on Mars with proper planning.
neohampster · 0 points · Posted at 02:30:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Does it have a name? Is it legal to eat where i am?
If the answers are no and yes then I will eat it, any other combination and it isn't food. Simple.
Niadain · 0 points · Posted at 02:32:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My line is all the way on the far left- so long as I dont have to be the one to do it. If I do, then its wayyyyyyyyyy over on the right.
Because we are animals. Because I expect the same for me. And because god damnit im a fuckin softy and have trouble hurting insects ;_;
Roastmonkeybrains · 0 points · Posted at 02:34:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cats not bad. Especially if you don't like your neighbours.
AssBusiness · 0 points · Posted at 02:35:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I fucking hate billboards like this. What the hell kind of point are they trying to prove? I have pet rabbits but I will still eat rabbit. I know plenty of people who keep chickens more as pets and they still eat chicken. These people really need to get a fucking life and spend that money on something more constructive.
Hoch101 · 0 points · Posted at 02:39:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just matters where you live
pelvicmomentum · 0 points · Posted at 02:49:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
OP u cheap whore
wtf_is_taken · 0 points · Posted at 02:54:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
so meta
Hobby_Man · 0 points · Posted at 02:57:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd move it 2 to the left. All the way left if hungry.
B0SS47 · 0 points · Posted at 02:57:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I think it should be only cats and dogs
socialphant · 0 points · Posted at 02:58:14 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
+2 on the left..
hermanmango · 0 points · Posted at 02:59:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
horse is soooooo delicious.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 03:05:24 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Wait, horse and rabbit, yummie!
douchecannon · 0 points · Posted at 03:11:13 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Golden retriever goes way left of cat, don't be ridiculous.
EZpwnage · 0 points · Posted at 03:23:57 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It only took a single day for this to be reposted from /r/blackpeopletwitter. Nice job, asshole.
Jacob_C · 0 points · Posted at 03:25:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I'd go a couple notches left.
soybeandog23 · 0 points · Posted at 03:48:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Reverse the order for Asians
tylerjo1 · 0 points · Posted at 03:53:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I draw the line on the very left. If they need killing I'll get it done.
Creature_73L · 0 points · Posted at 03:53:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Make that line 2 more to the left.. unless in real need of food, then all are on the table.
nliausacmmv · 0 points · Posted at 04:42:47 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Come on, are we stealing jokes from bpt now?
swaggman75 · 0 points · Posted at 04:59:58 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Jeasus you guys are getting slow i saw this on fb hours ago
Ps. Rabbits taste good
NoticedGenie66 · 0 points · Posted at 06:09:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/EV8xasW.png
Come on. Can't you at least word it differently from what you stole it from?
Anesred · 0 points · Posted at 08:04:48 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Taken straight off r/blackpeopletwitter
badmankelpthief · 0 points · Posted at 11:26:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
fuck off with your shitty repost. this has been on the front page 3 times in the last week
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 12:06:04 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Cats. They're over-populated, make terrible companions, and are bad for the environment, but do they also taste good? Peta wants you to find out.
[deleted] · 0 points · Posted at 12:15:27 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Horses and rabbits are great too!
metacoma · 0 points · Posted at 12:23:54 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)*
Rabbit "à la moutarde" is awesome, and a horse steak tartare is also very good. soooo... after dog please.
edit: SO, VEGANS or HORSE LOVERS are DOWNVOTING THIS COMMENT. I STAND BY THIS, RABBIT AND HORSES ARE DELICIOUS AS FUCK ! deal with it !
[deleted] · -5 points · Posted at 20:42:59 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
agree
MattP-14 · -8 points · Posted at 20:41:33 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
If it's an animal . . . I'll eat it.
[deleted] · -2 points · Posted at 23:21:56 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Just like all other animals, we gotta eat.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 23:43:27 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
If it's a pie, probably all the way at the left.
Derasun · -1 points · Posted at 23:55:59 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
In China this line is waaay more to the left ;).
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 23:59:55 on May 24, 2016 · (Permalink)
Tbh I'd draw it at rabbit. I'll eat rabbit.
But I'd be willing to try yellow dog, like they serve in China.
ImNotRealJesusChrist · -1 points · Posted at 00:07:56 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You're missing out on a lot of good meat.
[deleted] · -1 points · Posted at 01:16:22 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Either this is trying to say we should eat all animals, or entirely stop eating animals.
Entirely stopping would probably kill half the population on earth.
ki299 · -1 points · Posted at 01:54:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Um.. if i am starving and there is only an animal that is typically a house pet.. i am going to eat it.. sorry but that cat or dog... it comes down to survival of the fittest.
typing · -1 points · Posted at 01:58:42 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
It's simple, animals that eat meat we keep as pets, animals that eat veggies we eat. :)
FlowersForEveryone · -1 points · Posted at 15:27:28 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Fuck every asshole here who pays to have animals slaughtered.
scgoodolboy · 2 points · Posted at 15:33:18 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't pay I hunt.
FlowersForEveryone · -1 points · Posted at 15:38:55 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
You are a little bitch.
Glass_The_Planet · -2 points · Posted at 00:34:39 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Depending on your privilege, you might draw it all the way to the left
zxj4k3xz · 1 points · Posted at 03:47:33 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
What does that mean?
Glass_The_Planet · 1 points · Posted at 04:04:29 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Lol, I knew it would be misconstrued. Take me for instance, I've never had to eat left of the line, but some folks do. I would say I've got it pretty easy. So I was just wondering how well a sign like that would do in China, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Switzerland, Cameroon, Ghana or Liberia, that's all. I probably could have said it better the first time but ¯\(ツ)/¯
zxj4k3xz · 1 points · Posted at 11:05:15 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I don't think it's a poverty thing in a lot of those countries, I think it's cultural.
Glass_The_Planet · 1 points · Posted at 11:38:10 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Interesting, this has caused me to read and find that I might not be the lucky one after all because cat and dog meat can be delicious. The privilege is on the other foot it seems...
Nayowi · -2 points · Posted at 00:36:00 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
I am happy to see that many of us know how delicious rabbits and horses are!!
Vetememe · -3 points · Posted at 00:23:35 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
someone needs to stop PETA. there basically saying that we shouldnt eat things that humans have been eating for hundreds of years. why the fuck is a bigger species speaking for a species that will kill you if you hurt it a little. i dont condone torturing animals but i do condone eating what ever you want and wearing what you want, its not a organizations job to create shitty shock campaigns and get a couple celebs to pose nude. they should be focusing in animal abuse and the fact that some people torture their animals, not telling the populus that eating animals is wrong
ElmertheAwesome · -2 points · Posted at 00:59:25 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
My vegan FB friends are having a ball with this one...
CarinaBellaCarina · -3 points · Posted at 04:38:40 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
New-ish to Reddit so not sure where to park this comment. I want to address HORSE MEAT ... first, though ... I have been vegetarian and now vegan for many years. There will be something to eat at basically any restaurant. At home it is so easy. I am not one of those mythical vegans who preach and rant and shame. If a friend asks about my choice, happy to share. Otherwise I leave it alone. As a teen I thought vegans were weird, angry hippies with a superiority complex. To that I now say the flip is mostly true ~ most vegans think we are destroying the planet with factory farming (which causes more methane & emissions than traffic does in the US). I don't want to kill a living being in order for me to survive because it's not necessary. Cowspiracy is a great film on this topic and there's no gore. Earthlings will make you a vegetarian or at the very least consider it. Many say they can't bear to watch it and they just wanna keep eating their fast food burgers. The taste I thought I loved in steak, ribs and burgers etc is sauce & seasoning. I do believe ~ world wide ~ the suffering we inflict on animals is sickening and despicable. There really is no 'humane slaughter'. Animals raised "organically" are typically butchered at the same facility as non-organic. I live in Vancouver, Canada and there are MANY superb athletes who are vegan or at least vegetarian. It is a real hot spot for health, sports, wellness ... so I live in a great city with tons of choices for food. It is a myth that you need to eat meat to be well-muscled. I am female and most people think I am 10 years younger than I am. I am fit, fast, and happy. My blood pressure and cholesterol and all that jazz are on point. But seriously, to each their own. I grew up in a small farming town and never thought I would give up steak and ribs. One day I was eating a steak and it just tasted wrong. Realized I was eating muscle and just about puked. Random & unplanned diversion to not eating meat anymore. Okay, onto horse slaughter / meat. The US does not currently slaughter horses. Over 70,000 are slaughtered in Canadian facilities every year. Most come over the border from the US. The same amount go to Mexico from the US where they are killed with a knife to the spinal cord. It is not a quick death. I have seen it as I work in animal rescue. Canadian horse processing is also barbaric. I will just say, Google it instead of me rambling. You still want to eat horse meat? Okay. Almost every horse has Bute in its system. Think of it as human aspirin. It is a proven carcinogen to humans. Some restaurants and countries will lie and say the meat is organic etc ~ bullsh*t. Forms are almost always falsified by the shipper / slaughter plant. Again, I have witnessed this and it's the norm. So, that's my bit. Sorry for going on but please put some thought into animal welfare. Who are we to decide we are superior and must pillage every animal? Pigs are typically smarter than dogs. Think differently. Try a few meatless meals ~ there are great recipes online. With the hundreds of thousands of acres we use to raise cattle and other livestock, crops could be grown to feed more 3rd world citizens as well as N. America. Have a great night, everyone & thanks to any who read this ;) Please don't be rude if you don't agree with me. I am not deliberately rude to others. Just scroll by if you don't like me :)
911child · -9 points · Posted at 00:13:53 on May 25, 2016 · (Permalink)
Vegans are funny, "don't eat meat!" -proceeds to eat animal's food-