dm_0 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:20:26 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Religion 101.
"He was better than you so you should probably shut up, disengage any critical thinking and write your tithing checks. We have some $18k rugs to buy for the temple. Stupid Philistines."
"I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I."
Wait, I don't remember making the decision to become one, yet I definitely was a mormon for the majority of my life. Can you help me solve this puzzle and figure out when I chose to join? I'm too stupid.
Y'all actually stupid enough to become mormons in the first place.
By "become" you mean "born into it and given no choice to leave until I was already out of the house, and doing so caused significant estrangement from my family for years?"
I think the humbling thing that we learn is even very intelligent people fall for this stuff. Especially if it's all they ever knew. I didn't question for years because no one encouraged me, too.
Bottom line I'd encourage you to expand your worldview a bit farther and ask yourself why intelligent people are religious instead of just assuming they're all stupid.
How did JW start? What similarities does it have to Joseph smith?
wiscbro ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 05:54:26 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
haha the people who were defending the church in replies to this tweet are ridiculous. Based on their replies they all never heard the church leaders tell people not to research countless times, or they only read the preface of the CES letter and only researched using fairmormon lmao.
KingCalad ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 06:58:48 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Questioning your own beliefs is the only way to know if theyโre true or not. Same as proving a scientific theory right or wrong, and anyone who tells you otherwise is, what I like to call, an idiot.
(NB - not a Mormon): Isn't greatest commandment is to love the Lord with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind. If you aren't applying the intelligence God gave you to your own belief system then how are you following that commandment?
if you are referring to the passage in deuteronomy, the word is ืืืื, which means โyour mightโ or โyour strengthโ. there is also a connotation of โmonetary strengthโ.
your point is not wrong, but that isnโt a source for it.
Last year's youth theme was "ask" and the amount of fucking gaslighting was out of control. "Hey guys, just ask" then a kid asks a question and in comes the nervous laughter and the ring-around-the-rosy and a deflection and distraction then finally - "see just Ask!"
jr-junior ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:22:57 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
marimoso ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:58:28 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I was 12 when I told my dad I didn't believe in God. I went to meetings with my bishop for weeks after church. My final meeting my dad and bishop both told me I was too young to have those kinds of thoughts. I wish I was brave enough at the time to point out that their entire religion was founded by a 12 year old who thought he saw angels
That's why they keep so many church history books locked away in the 'special collection' area of the BYU library. Don't want those impressionable kids to get a look at what Really happened in the early years of the church.
Correct me if im wrong, but living in Utah and its mormon history. I was told that Joseph Smith had a revelation when he was a child, and the mormon church adopted that you didnt have to be of high clerical hierarchy to have a revalation. And that the mormon church is rather run democratically.
"Everyone raise your right hand to indicate whether you support the leaders. Anyone opposed? You there, the one who stood up - meet us in the back hallway to discuss things."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:45 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs very authoritarian, from the top down. Mormons who believe otherwise are like marionette puppets who claim to operate independently because they love there strings and they would never have a reason to not do what their strings tell them...
Edit: word order tweak
Edit 2: I would say you are right many Mormons would say this (I.e. that they are democratic or similar, because they do things by โcommon consentโ (the rubber stamp of the sheeple, where those who disagree are persecuted one way or another), but the claim doesnโt stand the slightest bit of scrutiny. Itโs just demonstrably false.
namtokmuu ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:41:02 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
999 of 1000 active Mormons have never witnessed an opposing vote in any meeting theyโve ever attended. Mormon democracy!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:34:52 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Thatโs part two. Dissent usually means youโve not โaligned yourselfโ with the inspired leaders and taking an opposing position put you at odds with the community. Thus, there is zero incentive to ever voice โopposed.โ
When JS started this monstrosity he preached/claimed anyone could receive revelation.
Small problem with that, other people randomly started speaking in tongues and prophesizing and it distracted from JS "gifts" and minimized his power and authority. Because if anyone could receive revelation and other spiritual gifts he wasn't as necessary.
So with other people getting attention and followers because of their gifts, he changed god's mind and came out with new revelation that these other people were really influenced by Jesus' big brother, Satan.
This allowed him to reign power back into his hands.
โDid research in search of truthโ... I mean yeah if putting some fucking rocks in a hat and talking to god about Native American angels somehow now counts as research.
Yassss! This was something that always bugged me. The church is built upon this idea of questioning and seeking answers! Why should we not get to do that?
Links to twitter are disallowed. You can create a static screenshot with names/faces of non-famous persons blanked out/obscured and submit that instead.
Towel-ie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:32 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Gordon B. Hinckley said something to this effect years ago, that it's either true or it's not. There is no "eh, kind of, sort of, somewhat" area. I thought it was a remarkably confident statement coming from him. To this day I still respect the guy, because he showed some transparency and honesty in coming out and saying that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:52 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm involved with a different religion now and they have never counselled me not to read anything they do not personally teach. They have never tried to keep me from learning truth on my own. They have never been afraid of things I might learn.
Are you suggesting Mormons โcanโ ask questions of their religion and search for truth? I would challenge anyone who thinks this to read the CES letter and bring up any and all relevant questions during church meetings and see how it goes ๐ Or read the countless quotes and note the countless times such people have been publicly belittled or flat out excommunicated.
If that is not what you meant I apologize for misreading ๐คฃ
You can as long as you do so quietly and come to the approved conclusion in the end.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:34:38 on February 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. When I was on my mission we always taught people to study and pray for themselves if they believe or not. Pretty sure that hasnโt changed.
๐๏ธ bluhEwanka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:06 on February 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Jeffro_the_exmo ยท 322 points ยท Posted at 02:45:39 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Perfectly said
[deleted] ยท -52 points ยท Posted at 03:31:07 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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cIaster ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 03:36:57 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
judge not lest ye be judged
frozetoze ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:42:29 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
"The bible says a lot things. Shove her!"
dm_0 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:20:26 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Religion 101.
"He was better than you so you should probably shut up, disengage any critical thinking and write your tithing checks. We have some $18k rugs to buy for the temple. Stupid Philistines."
AcutePriapism ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 03:39:14 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How would you know unless you ask?
dougmantis ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 05:16:14 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
God himself came down just now and personally told me to tell you that there are flaws in your argument.
thegraveyardcat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:04:00 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Woah dude! Are claiming to be a prophet?
Can you ask God if I can have ice cream for breakfast?
HellyHailey ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:17:19 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
God told me that I am now the goddess of ice cream. You are welcome to consume ice cream for any meal on any day. Amen.
thegraveyardcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:26 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Can I also have a pony or is that pushing it?
HellyHailey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:10 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No ponies. Amen.
thegraveyardcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:37 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
But... but ... please?
dougmantis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:14 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Go ask the folks at r/TheMonkeysPaw for one.
thegraveyardcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:33 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No I want the goddess of ice cream
HellyHailey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:40 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โIโm sorry your number cannot be completed as dialed, please hang up, and ask another god(ess)โ
thegraveyardcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:25 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever, your not even my real mom
BYU_atheist ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:33:15 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Are you for real? No Mormon I know would call Joseph Smith "the Messiah".
the-red-wheelbarrow ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:33:09 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Look at his history, all his comments in tons of subs are downvoted. Probably gets off on it
ov3rcl0ck ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:52:28 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What about the time Joe said that he was better than Jesus?
https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/volume-6-chapter-19
"I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I."
emmas_revenge ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:58:15 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, Joe had a bit of a superiority complex, didn't he?
the-red-wheelbarrow ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:33:20 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Obvious troll is obvious
ovenstuff ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:39:51 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Your last comment was making fun of people for living in the Stone Age lmfao
cIaster ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 05:21:36 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
lol hey it's me
TheChurchOfDonovan ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:39:01 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin legend
berserkerich ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:07:26 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How are you protecting your coffee filter full of taco meat from El Diablo if you're on Twitter?
GuccciSocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:02 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lol the peopleโs responses to the tweets are funny
AbsolutelyMuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:47 on February 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
ye gods the replies though >>
cIaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:12:46 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
we brawled & i won
theycallmejethro ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:50:12 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I love the "We're not a cult" / "uh yah we can totally investigate!" twitter responses.
This is my list responding to that.
Plenty of evidence in official doctrine & culture that shows how one-sided "investigating" is.
I'm sure there's loads more. Anything else should I add?
webdisaster ยท 181 points ยท Posted at 03:02:34 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this was what started my shelf breaking back in high school ~25 years ago.
le_renard_americain ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:56:52 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Mine as well. I still remember sitting on my phone in the church lobby scrolling through MormonThink on my phone instead of going to quorum meetings.
[deleted] ยท -72 points ยท Posted at 07:31:33 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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AlluringAlliterator ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 07:55:10 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, I don't remember making the decision to become one, yet I definitely was a mormon for the majority of my life. Can you help me solve this puzzle and figure out when I chose to join? I'm too stupid.
zr0gravity7 ยท -64 points ยท Posted at 08:13:08 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What are you on about?
Your sarcasm is lost on me, I legitemately have no idea what you are talking about. I guess im too stupid as well.
Diorama42 ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 09:55:27 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You are
captainfluffballs ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 10:11:26 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
People are born into this shit and indoctrinated by their parents, it takes years to realise how messed up it is and leave
VicIsSoRad ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 10:37:51 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
yeah man your fucking brain dead
Geno_is_God ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:26 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You're*
VicIsSoRad ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 11:21:58 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
thanks i really needed that
Destroyer_of_wombs ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:43:21 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You dense motherfucker
Danyboyblue ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:59:53 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lol he really doesnโt get it though.
PayLayFail ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 13:04:03 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
By "become" you mean "born into it and given no choice to leave until I was already out of the house, and doing so caused significant estrangement from my family for years?"
Sodomize yourself with a cactus, you fucktard.
edible_starling ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:39:17 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think the humbling thing that we learn is even very intelligent people fall for this stuff. Especially if it's all they ever knew. I didn't question for years because no one encouraged me, too.
Bottom line I'd encourage you to expand your worldview a bit farther and ask yourself why intelligent people are religious instead of just assuming they're all stupid.
EatShitDieOld ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:05:03 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Born Mormon dipshit, no choice
jomjohns ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 04:54:56 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Replace โMormon Churchโ with โWatchtowerโ and โJoseph Smithโ with โCharles Taze Russelโ and this also works for JWs!
hyrle ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 05:35:09 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait - his name was Taze(rface?) :D
DarkSylver302 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:49:49 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What kinda name is Tazerface?!
AnguillaAnguilla ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:45:58 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the ThunderDome bitch
Still-ILO ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:14:37 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly.
It's this simple folks....if theydon't want you to study it out on your own, it's because there are things they don't want you to find/know.
They're a cult!!!
JN_Lawrence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:36 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How did JW start? What similarities does it have to Joseph smith?
wiscbro ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 05:54:26 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
haha the people who were defending the church in replies to this tweet are ridiculous. Based on their replies they all never heard the church leaders tell people not to research countless times, or they only read the preface of the CES letter and only researched using fairmormon lmao.
bearcheese ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:41:21 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Link to tweet?
wiscbro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:34:02 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt think I can post links to twitter on this forum. You can just look up his username on Twitter I believe to find it
Supervixen73 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 03:57:18 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well I certainly wouldnโt โsuggest research is the answerโ as itโs not popular this year.
NuriaAlicia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:25:20 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
๐
KingCalad ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 06:58:48 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Questioning your own beliefs is the only way to know if theyโre true or not. Same as proving a scientific theory right or wrong, and anyone who tells you otherwise is, what I like to call, an idiot.
UlteriorCulture ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:41:25 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
(NB - not a Mormon): Isn't greatest commandment is to love the Lord with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind. If you aren't applying the intelligence God gave you to your own belief system then how are you following that commandment?
InfCompact ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:08:20 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
if you are referring to the passage in deuteronomy, the word is ืืืื, which means โyour mightโ or โyour strengthโ. there is also a connotation of โmonetary strengthโ.
your point is not wrong, but that isnโt a source for it.
UlteriorCulture ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:11:59 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I am referring to when Jesus gives the commandment in Matthew, Mark, and Luke. The Greek word ฮดฮนฮฑฮฝฮฟฮฏแพณ definitely refers to mental faculties.
doctor_no_nonsense ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 09:57:51 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Last year's youth theme was "ask" and the amount of fucking gaslighting was out of control. "Hey guys, just ask" then a kid asks a question and in comes the nervous laughter and the ring-around-the-rosy and a deflection and distraction then finally - "see just Ask!"
jr-junior ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:22:57 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This needs to be on the front page
sushivodka93 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:43:26 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It is.
marimoso ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:58:28 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I was 12 when I told my dad I didn't believe in God. I went to meetings with my bishop for weeks after church. My final meeting my dad and bishop both told me I was too young to have those kinds of thoughts. I wish I was brave enough at the time to point out that their entire religion was founded by a 12 year old who thought he saw angels
dannydomenic ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:48:23 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That was literally said to me. Like almost word for word
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whistleridge ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:27:10 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
As a historian who has encountered a few too many folks trying to find historical evidence of the Book of Mormon (hint: it doesnโt exist)...this.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:28 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's right. They CONTROL the narrative.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:08:22 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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CakeDay--Bot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:26:07 on February 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Woah! It's your 1st Cakeday BrotherJethro! hug
filipinawebcam ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:42:06 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's why they keep so many church history books locked away in the 'special collection' area of the BYU library. Don't want those impressionable kids to get a look at what Really happened in the early years of the church.
BadJuju8274 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:01:50 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Correct me if im wrong, but living in Utah and its mormon history. I was told that Joseph Smith had a revelation when he was a child, and the mormon church adopted that you didnt have to be of high clerical hierarchy to have a revalation. And that the mormon church is rather run democratically.
Barth_Burger ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 11:01:50 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's run democratically when compared to, say, North Korea.
Word2daWise ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:34:17 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
"Everyone raise your right hand to indicate whether you support the leaders. Anyone opposed? You there, the one who stood up - meet us in the back hallway to discuss things."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:45 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
LOL!!!
MasterChiefJudge ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 11:37:42 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Itโs very authoritarian, from the top down. Mormons who believe otherwise are like marionette puppets who claim to operate independently because they love there strings and they would never have a reason to not do what their strings tell them...
Edit: word order tweak
Edit 2: I would say you are right many Mormons would say this (I.e. that they are democratic or similar, because they do things by โcommon consentโ (the rubber stamp of the sheeple, where those who disagree are persecuted one way or another), but the claim doesnโt stand the slightest bit of scrutiny. Itโs just demonstrably false.
namtokmuu ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:41:02 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
999 of 1000 active Mormons have never witnessed an opposing vote in any meeting theyโve ever attended. Mormon democracy!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:34:52 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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namtokmuu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:33 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Thatโs part two. Dissent usually means youโve not โaligned yourselfโ with the inspired leaders and taking an opposing position put you at odds with the community. Thus, there is zero incentive to ever voice โopposed.โ
EvaporatedLight ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:33:58 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You are absolutely correct.
When JS started this monstrosity he preached/claimed anyone could receive revelation.
Small problem with that, other people randomly started speaking in tongues and prophesizing and it distracted from JS "gifts" and minimized his power and authority. Because if anyone could receive revelation and other spiritual gifts he wasn't as necessary.
So with other people getting attention and followers because of their gifts, he changed god's mind and came out with new revelation that these other people were really influenced by Jesus' big brother, Satan.
This allowed him to reign power back into his hands.
sushivodka93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:45:22 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds about right, for a Cult.
J0HNHANC0CK ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:44:14 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โDid research in search of truthโ... I mean yeah if putting some fucking rocks in a hat and talking to god about Native American angels somehow now counts as research.
itsfinalgirl_ ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:11:51 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You are not a prophet of God. Just an ordinary member ๐
verynearlydying ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:09 on February 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
how do you know?
itsfinalgirl_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:28 on February 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
He is not a member of the 12 yet. It's necessary now
verynearlydying ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:32:39 on February 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
why is that necessary?
itsfinalgirl_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:10 on February 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Because, in the present day, you need to be an apostle before. And you need to be the oldest of them.
verynearlydying ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:39 on February 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
according to the church
Wondergirl91 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:25:07 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This sums it up perfectly!
AgnosticPsyche ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:06:09 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I bring this up all the time to people who want to argue. They just dont get it.
JS was a rebel.
Well guess what? So am I. Not to say I'm trying to be like JS though. Haha.
Word2daWise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:50 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing you aren't - we'd hide all the teenaged girls from you.
YeeGad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:40:35 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
James 1:5. if any of you lack wisdom then STFU and stay in the boat because we know better than you morons. (RMN and co. translation)
roundpeg_squarehole ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:54:29 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Youโd think it would be encouraged based on the foundation of the religion.
nanosquid ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:52:42 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
He alteady questioned and researched, so you don't have to! Noice.
lonelytheonly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:09 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or, more like, he already questioned and researched, so you better not or else!
lacooljay02 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:39:48 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
seems legit
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:45:04 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How many TBM's got this tweet?
I LOVE IT! IT points out the hypocrisy without any questions.
rainforestdude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:56:32 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well when you put it that way...
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PostMo_Mama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:01 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my gosh. Perfect.
Birthjunkie98 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:48 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yassss! This was something that always bugged me. The church is built upon this idea of questioning and seeking answers! Why should we not get to do that?
ultracraptapular ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:57 on February 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โSon of Korihorโ
FIFY
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Towel-ie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:32 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Gordon B. Hinckley said something to this effect years ago, that it's either true or it's not. There is no "eh, kind of, sort of, somewhat" area. I thought it was a remarkably confident statement coming from him. To this day I still respect the guy, because he showed some transparency and honesty in coming out and saying that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:52 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
PogWeird
Asburydin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:30 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm involved with a different religion now and they have never counselled me not to read anything they do not personally teach. They have never tried to keep me from learning truth on my own. They have never been afraid of things I might learn.
Gator052 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:49:45 on March 1, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Neither does the LDS church. Iโm pretty sure one of the core principles is โseekโ. Which means read. Research. Ask. Question. Learn.
It doesnโt mean shut up and only read what we allow.
zapper125 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:31:25 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
but you can...
MasterChiefJudge ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 11:46:01 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Are you suggesting Mormons โcanโ ask questions of their religion and search for truth? I would challenge anyone who thinks this to read the CES letter and bring up any and all relevant questions during church meetings and see how it goes ๐ Or read the countless quotes and note the countless times such people have been publicly belittled or flat out excommunicated.
If that is not what you meant I apologize for misreading ๐คฃ
kimballthenom ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:20:21 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You can as long as you do so quietly and come to the approved conclusion in the end.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:34:38 on February 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. When I was on my mission we always taught people to study and pray for themselves if they believe or not. Pretty sure that hasnโt changed.
๐๏ธ bluhEwanka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:06 on February 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โDoubt your doubts.โ
Gator052 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:28 on March 1, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. The church doesnโt look down on you for having doubts or asking questions.
They encourage you to ask questions.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 02:58:34 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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wheresmyheadphones ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:00:04 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Happened to me yesterday but ok!
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 03:02:09 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Your post history tells us โwhere women belong.โ
Wonder why youโre defending the Church of LDS?
Edit: love that he deleted his comment. Proof heโs a coward.
whyhasgodforsakenus1 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:04:07 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What was the comment?
PM-ME-RABBIT-HOLES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:28 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
(found here)
Chanceral ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:49:44 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt have much of a backbone do they?
IDidntKnow-TheLies ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:07:45 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Happened to me