Roses are red, Mormonism is deplorable; Differences are punished, Unless they are exploitable.

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Hey, now. I don't know where I'd be without Al Fox.

I know nothing about Al Carraway, but every time I see her book I think "why is it actually a big deal?" I've seen plenty of tattooed mormons. I was one. Why are they making it a thing??? And seriously the strap over the pants is horrible.

That Christofferson book is a joke. Everyone knows the church is completely incompatible with homosexuality. They found the one person in 15 million who did enough mental gymnastics to make it work, and published a book on it to make it seem normal. Ugh!

Beautiful poem, I think I felt the Holy Ghost

I typed this up when I forst joined reddit. It didn’t seem loke it got put up. I think it belongs here... It's hard to take issue with progress in the Church, but it's hard not to be extremely frustrated with how agonizing it is to watch (like waiting for my 5 year old to recite the Gettysburg Address; hint: he doesn't know what the GA is yet). I feel some measure of appreciation for Tom Christofferson in that he will at a minimum get some TBMs to think about gay differently, and undoubtedly will open some eyes and provide ways to have productive dialogues. Yet, he is the brother of an apostle, and won the leadership roulette game. Plus, he had almost 2 decades to experience love. For him to choose a church over the man he supposedly loved casts a shadow on that love. Like with so many situations in the Church, people cast aside known and tangible things that are good, healthy, and loving, in favor of intangible and suspiciously unprovable things. "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." The Mormon God wants Tom to eat dinner alone for the rest of his life, to sleep in an empty bed, and thank God for it. That's way more disgusting of an idea to me than any kind of whisper "gay sex." I hope we get his partner's take on the matter some day. How betrayed and confused he must be.

I should be the first cannabis endorsing Mormon. Imagine all the green. I could wear a green apron and $tart a YouTube channel.

So many people have tried to get me to read Al Fox's blog after I've told them or they've sensed that I have all but removed my name off the records. I suppose they think I'll think, "Oh this obviously very rebellious girl with tattoos who is "hip" and "cool" found her place in the Church, I guess I'll give it another shot." Because I have a very non-traditional backstory. My friend even gave me her book for my birthday. Worst. present. ever. I read some of it and it depressed me. She essentially broke ties with her family (who she was very close to prior to joining) so she could be a Mormon and move to Utah. I honestly feel bad for her. What a waste of your life to give up your family for a false sense of eternal safety. And her writing style annoys me.

Ugh, used to work for Deseret Book and when books like these came in it made me cringe

Why do I feel like Tom Christofferson had a 'change of heart' right around his retirement age? When, you know, he could write a book endorsed by the church and probably make a good chunk of money to sail off into the sunset with. Gotta get in on that Zions Book authorship gravy train.

And it is funny to see this woman being embraced on a church wide level, while you have to wonder how it works locally. I mean, I have a relatively small tattoo on my calf, and there was basically a revolt among youth parents when I was called to the bishopric and wore shorts to YM activities. Seriously, bishop mentioned to me that a couple mothers in the ward came to him and asked him to tell me to wear long pants to all activities so the kids couldn't see my tattoo.

I sometimes think about the situation of the "Celebrity Mormon."

It almost feels like they've made the conscious decision to sell out.

Think about the attention you'd get if you were a prominent exmormon/atheist who posted on reddit exmo for years and all of a sudden one day you "finally saw the light!"

If you came up with some holy vision or dream and told it at every Stake Conference for the rest of your days?

Can you imagine the publicity and celebrity status you'd achieve within the cult? You could write a book and make some big money, not to mention all the "friends" you'd make!

One of you should do this.

For science.

Edit: IIRC there was an atheist who did this in mainstream xtianity, and is now a successful blogger or something, but my memory is faint on the topic. To my knowledge there hasn't been a Mormon leave and come back yet (or at least they didn't play their hand right if they did...).

What?!? You mean she had other traits and qualities other than being tattooed?!

Whenever I see shit like this, I think of when Doctor Evil was trying to show his son how hip and cool he is.

I'm with it

I don’t know the book about the gay finally helped my dad understand and accept me more. So I can’t hate.

Doublespeak.

Even when I was a TBM, I hated when the TSCC would trot out "sinners" as these great repenters who were forgiven. They advertise their "sin" over and over again, then in some benign manner say they repented. It drove me ... and still does ... CRAZY !

I need to find a good hook so I can get my tithing money back.

Thinking something like this: Exmormon Grandma returns with tattoo's, piercings, gay grandkids, and all.

I'll need to have some work done so I can be a bit more credible, like this lady:http://www.damncoolpictures.com/2007/05/worlds-most-tattooed-woman.html

Coincidence that both of their smiles remind me of vampires?

I honestly thought speaking would have been voluntary. I understand reimbursing travel expenses if it’s a far trip. Since you mentioned tapes, I remember having several of Mr. Bytheway’s tapes. The church certainly didn’t hand those out, my parents would buy them as a Christmas present from Deseret Boom (probably because I never would have bought them with my own money).

They're both getting paid by the church.

I'll bet Tom is making a really good living pretending mormonism is better than being in a loving relationship.

Honey let your brows grow out, sheeesh.

Priestcraft. Fuck em.

During conference the cameraman always seems to find Token in the choir.

I’m pretty sure the tattooed Mormon is an exmormon now

How does this make any fucking sense?