Can you try refreshing your client, and seeing if you still have this high CPU issue? If you can, open console in Discord and let me know what your BUILD INFO line is. Lastly, do you have hardware acceleration on?
Must be around 20, most of them over a 1k members.
What's the largest server you're in?
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Are these replies over a few years? Why DO I have a feeling these replies are years apart. I've seen a lot of "we're looking into it" or "submit a feedback" and then the same replies 2 years later. It's quite a bad business they're doing. They seem to not really care about their users
Shohdef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:56 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Unsure. I think it's currently in closed beta though so hopefully soon. There was also some updates made to the main website. Usually a good sign point.
lauriys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:13:33 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
pivoting
AXDZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:44:10 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'll probably make my own chat client in the near future. I'm still learning to code. atleast users will get some privacy there and maybe options to make their own custom theme. I'm not against it :)
I like the idea of it tbh but I think that itโs constantly being rendered. You have to remember that Discord is a web-based program. Itโs a client but itโs still web-based. With that being said they should make it to where youโre able to disable certain features. For example if you were able to disable the store page/tab entirely, you wouldnโt be rendering as much (and downloading data?). Itโs also worth noting that if youโre in a call and screen sharing or being screen shared to, your CPU, for some people, sky rockets (my friendโs does this and heโs unable to do anything while I share my screen until I turn it back off). Iโm not saying these are bad features by any means, I love it personally and I could never go back to Skype. But you should be able to disable some features in some way so the client doesnโt become unusable.
According to the developers themselves, nothing is actually loaded into memory until you open it, everything is segmented off and ready to be โincludedโ as needed. So, the store should never be loaded unless you open it.
ANd I switched to discord cause skype was making my games perform worse. Though I did just score a free laptop, so maybe IT's just a dedicated discord machine.
I donโt want another launcher. I donโt care if this is a chat client with a launcher, I want text/voice chat, keep the overhead low.
Fraerie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:30:52 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We've noticed the power consumption on iOS to have gone through the roof in the last 4-6 weeks and the on phone reporting is attributing it to Discord.
I went from my phone usually being at around 70% battery by the end of the day to around 25% with no significant change in usage patterns.
21 hours later and no staff replies to this comment... ๐ค
Cephell ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:01:43 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Based. Last time I pointed this down I got slammed with downvotes. I didn't have a link though.
STM1993 ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 13:29:08 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
While I didn't see the same high usage of CPU/memory/power on my own desktop, the latest update has still caused extremely heavy slowdown for me. It lags to scroll, type or to even highlight buttons that I mouse over.
The only thing I can do to remedy it so far is to change the Discord app's window size.
(EDIT: Enabled hardware acceleration and that worked for me, but its still pretty unacceptable that it runs slow when its disabled)
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 13:45:28 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Hardware acceleration makes games unplayable by using up insane amounts of GPU time and RAM, has done for months now
No, same here. Mine doesn't exhibit any of these issues, but I did a fresh install of windows after 1903 hit , so I have a fresh install of discord as well.
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 21:10:45 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
spairus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:10:33 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
It is going to sound silly, but try uninstalling and reinstalling. In my setup, every about 3-4 updates, discord completely breaks. It's not on the update, but the update procedure. it's random, and the issue is known for years (the forum post that I found to fix this was very old). If your comment describes my problem, this might just fix it, although yours seems different a bit. In my case, it straight up also slows down everything else until I fix it, not just discord. In the last 3 years using discord, I had my first occurrence 1 year in and had to fix it about 4 times since. Clearing caches and stuff didn't help, but this did.
alluran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:42 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Enabled hardware acceleration
Just to make sure /u/Shuu37 knows too - Hardware acceleration isn't the solution to everything either - there are thousands (millions) of Microsoft Surface and other integrated devices out there which will throttle almost instantly the second anything starts using the onboard GPU for hardware acceleration.
For proof - go download Intel XTU and watch the throttles kick in when watching YouTube videos in Chrome (with HA) vs IE11 (no acceleration) - ironically due to the way Chrome has aggressively chased out the competition, but that's a whole different story.
Discord is built with a technology called Electron which essentially allows people/companies to make desktop apps using web tech like HTML, CSS, JS instead of native programming languages. Itโs a great idea (faster developing, costs less, etc) but unfortunately the performance is bad. Electron bundles Chromium (which is the base of Chrome) into every Electron app therefore you can use Inspect Element like in Chrome.
OPโs issue isnโt caused entirely by Electron though.
HellnoRO ยท -28 points ยท Posted at 16:49:05 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have an application named Space Engine that's supposed to simulate the entire universe with a ratio of 1:1 scale. Now, keeping that in mind, I am very patient with it, and it does use a lot of CPU and Memory.
DISCORD STILL USES MORE CPU AND MEMORY THAN THAT. HOW DOES A CHAT APPLICATION NEED MORE RESOURCES THAN A UNIVERSE SIMULATOR!?
Space Engine is great. It has all known astronomical objects and will randomly generate to fill in gaps. You can even land on the surface of planets and they look pretty damn good.
Space engine knows exactly what it has to load and when. Discord is a client to dynamic media filled conversations. Comparing a very focused non multiplayer application to one that has to load multiple media types on demand is a futile task.
Did you know that the Discord you launch is not actually Discord? It's actually and updater that launches Discord afterwards. If you launch Discord from install location, it won't update. Perhaps...
We need a Discord Lite, for the original reason Discord was made for "voice and text chat for gamers" and nothing else.
I'd be capable of sacrificing video calling, the store, custom emojis, gif keyboard, screen sharing, image previews, search option, maybe even file transfer although it's really useful. Heck I could even sacrifice the nice gui that Discord has and replace it with something from the early 2000s.
xieso ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 15:46:29 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Totally agreed. Either a Lite version, or some way to disable a bunch of the unnecessary features that have been added. I think Discord was at its best 2-3 years ago. No store, no "server boosts", just a good chat client with great functionality that was funded by loyal patrons paying Nitro.
Its a shame how bloated it's become :(
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:13:31 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really have a problem with them adding features, it's just sad that they implement updates in such a lazy way.
Honestly I donโt think the new features are the issue... Ditching Electron and developing Discord without it would bring huge performance improvements.
That would be pretty much impossible. The only issue here seems the cpu usage which they can seems to be a bug. For an Electron app Discord is pretty well optimized actually, especially compared to Slack. If your computer isn't a potato the client runs fine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:44 on June 21, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
dat wouwd be pwetty much impossibwe. de onwy issue hewe seems de cpu usage which dey can seems to be a bug. Fow an Ewectwon app Discowd is pwetty weww optimized actuawwy, especiawwy compawed to Swack. If yuw computew isn't a potato de cwient wuns fine. uwu
synackk ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:10:41 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Allow people to write their own clients without breaking the TOS. I wouldn't be offended if there was a Nitro-only feature that allowed you to use your own client without violating the TOS. I'm sure some people would write a lightweight client.
We don't need a Discord lite client, the current situation is heavily misunderstood.
This is NOT an electron issue, it is a bug to do with React Native, a fronted library used for rendering. A developer from Discord has recently confirmed this bug of heavy CPU usage is related to when they upgraded React Native.
Another issue is that people think the store and activities tab is bloat and it slows down the program. This is a completely made up issue derived from personal feelings and the tendency to place blame on something people don't know about.
To give you an idea how stupid this so called blaming of performance degradation due to the store page, imagine a website like Wikipedia. Their developers decided to place a link to their merchandise store at the bottom of the page. Do you think the website will slow down? Of course not, its a link to a separate web page that only loads when you click on it.
The same applies to Discord which is essentially a website. The activities page/store is not constantly in the background or in RAM. It only loads when you click on it. It is just a link on the client.
In times like this where the Discord client has not been performant is the recent update, we need to continue giving feedback and bug reports to the devs without knee jerk, threats, misinformation and speculation.
Iโd love a discord lite. I really only need speech and text tbh. The overlay would be nice too but that would need some work too. Donโt know who the problem lies with, but if Iโm trying to play apex it takes like 5 seconds (or more) to actually activate voice via PTT if the overlay is activated.
2000s design is way better than 2010s design. The latter is zero details, zero depth cues, missing elements, oversized elements, inadequate labeling, poor contrast, poor flows, obscene amounts of padding, and infuriatingly large text. It's a devolution paraded by inept devs that somehow couldn't figure out basic graphic design software during the 2000s (despite the thousands of tutorials) and just made up reasons to use this zero-effort-zero-detail design ("it's faster/easier to make!"). Even calling it "design" is giving it too much credit; it's nothing more than a draft, the graphic design equivalent of a napkin drawing.
It has been for years, probably even since day one (I didn't use it back then). A chat client shouldn't need a loading screen and use nearly 200 MB of RAM. It's one of the many reasons that reasonable people consider it and its cousins like Slack to be cancer.
Anu8ius ยท -43 points ยท Posted at 15:31:07 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, fuck features that many asked for and that are super helpful to run servers!
I think that's a pretty irrational perspective, and probably not relevant to this issue..
For a lite version I would disable things such as the Activity panel, the game store, animated emojis, etc. I don't use them ever, I see no use for them.
But for people who want these features, they can keep them; this is the advantage of having a somewhat modular discord, while appealing to those who want a lite version, and those who want every feature.
Anu8ius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:27 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well then problems would arise if a server depends/expects you to have certain features on. Not to mention that it woild be confusing for new users when they can/cant do things others can.
Discord Lite coild be a cool idea in theory, but getting it to work on a server basis sounds like a nightmare, theres already enough people out there that dont know how to press a reaction...
Andnopo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:34:21 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For me discord desktop is so unusable, I have to use discord on web or on mobile
Is it me or discord started to deteriorate over the past few mounths ? The server lags pretty often and now the client is fighting to death with chrome to earn the right to consum the mighty ram
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:10:06 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
weird, at least for me, discord almost never even uses 1% of my CPU and pretty much never more than 30MB of memory, my computer isn't a beast either, it's pretty low-grade, less than $700 probably, never knew it used to so much for some people, wonder why
Hardware acceleration is already on. It's a completely vanilla client with no third party modifications, either internal or external. It does this to me consistently on multiple machines.
Shuu37 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:13:52 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Does it stay at 50% or is this a spike after doing something in the app?
Can you figure out if the usage goes this high in some cases and not others (what you are viewing in the app)
Can you capture what CPU usage you have in different tab types. (Friends Tab, Different Channels, Channels with a lot of gifs / emojis)
Are you in any servers that are appearing as "unavailable" ?
That spike there was after just moving the mouse around a bit, it settled down a bit afterwards but is still undesirable. And no, I'm not in any unavailable servers right now.
CPU usage will generally hover around at least 5-10% for me in most text channels. In the Friends tab and an inactive channel I see around a 3-5% utilisation. Viewing lots of emoji at once either in a channel or in the emoji picker will cause this to jump to around 25-30%. Interacting with the client in any way (moving the mouse especially) will cause the CPU usage to reach 30% and above almost immediately and consistently, sometimes up to nearly 100% depending on the server I'm in.
A render job using a maximum of 25% of my CPU, Edge Anaheim with a good few tabs open and a large selection of background Windows processes doing Windowsey things.
This is an electron problem, you'll notice something similar happens in all electron/chrome based apps
Eg try this in steam friends
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:02 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Have used hardware acceleration both on and off, with it on I get really bad stuttering in games and the CPU usage is still ~10%, the client renders at something like 10-15FPS as well. With it off the client renders at like 5 FPS and the usage when typing or moving the mouse anywhere over the window is as in the screenshot.
Shuu37 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:21:56 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hi there, I notice that for me hardware acceleration is actually part of the problem - turning it on seems to allow discord to run at an uncapped framerate, which on a 240hz monitor is quite problematic
Simply mousing over discord can cause cpu usage to spike up to 80% usage which sucks
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 20:14:49 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Shuu37 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:17:22 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hence why we are investigating it. :)
alluran ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:21:20 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey /u/Shuu37 - I get that you're not going to be the only decision maker in a company the size of Discord, but some feedback to take back to your management:
Discord is a chat client targeted at Gamers. Gamers are a set of users who build entire second PCs just to offload the overhead of streaming their gameplay. They run custom software and windows tweaks to disable every non-essential service, and care far more about performance than any other set of users out there, except maybe high-frequency traders.
This isn't a "minor inconvenience, we'll get to it in the next few patches" - this is an existential crisis for the platform, right as it's attempting to pivot and monetize itself.
Right now, many would say that Discord is in a strong position, but it's not. It is weak. It's right at the point between becoming ubiquitous, and becoming a flop. If it nails its next few months, it may cement itself in place in similar fashion to Steam. If it doesn't sort out performance soon however, it's going to lose the good will of its target audience, and then all it would take is an efficient competitor with a bit of marketing money behind it, and Discord will find itself in a very vulnerable position.
It's already starting to build a reputation as a resource hog - that's toxic to the platform, and you need to curb that now
Shuu37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:49 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Can you try refreshing your client, and seeing if you still have this high CPU issue? If you can, open console in Discord and let me know what your BUILD INFO line is. Lastly, do you have hardware acceleration on?
brinmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:46 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Refreshed it ~2h ago, was in VC all the time, now it's at 25% and 1GB.
[BUILD INFO] Release Channel: stable, Build Number: 39827, Version Hash: a71659d861020493fcff753e5288bc627036c948
This happens when HW acceleration is either on or off.
Shuu37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:32 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How many servers are you in? How big are the servers you are in?
brinmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:08 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Must be around 20, most of them over a 1k members.
Shuu37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:47 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Must be around 20, most of them over a 1k members.
What's the largest server you're in?
brinmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:26 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
you're just gonna tell everyone in the thread that the reason your chat client constantly uses excessive resources (203mb of ram for a chat client? telegram uses 21) is 100% definitely not because it's actually a web browser with a chat client's UI, with no evidence?
This link was upvoted to the top of the page for a reason. Don't ignore it.
On top of that, we have a thread full of screenshots with Discord eating gigabytes of ram and chewing through GPU to the point games lag. There is no need for it.
zuudo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:07:58 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Electron, despite being heavier than most would like in terms of resources, certainly does not cause the performance issues mentioned in this thread.
I maintain a fairly large Electron app which sits comfortably at 75 MB RAM usage and ~0.1% CPU time when idle, with a small increase when actively processing data. I have never seen issues like this appear in real world usage, which indicate either a bug with a stable release of Electron, or (more likely) poorly written code on the part of the developer.
Blindly quoting articles without understanding context is counterproductive, as this is clearly not a problem with Electron itself. A well made Electron app will never be able to match the performance of a "true" native app, but just look at VS Code - there are practically no complaints about performance, yet whenever someone has an issue with Discord, it's always Electron's fault, and anyone who says otherwise gets downvoted into oblivion (even if they're an actual employee of Discord)
I'd love to see a future where Electron doesn't require so much bloat, but for now, we have what we have.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:34 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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zuudo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:57 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't used any custom clients, but I imagine it's either due to a smaller feature set (less room for error) or, dare I say it, better testing before release. I can't be certain as I have no insight into the development of any client, custom or not.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:43 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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zuudo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:07 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You'd need to ask Discord themselves about it, I'm just a random person.
SupDos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:28:39 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Please open the link and read it before you keep downvoting these comments, Electron/CEF is a massive resource hog, whether you like it or not, and it feels like now every single program is using it. Chrome itself already is a massive Ram eater, imagine having 5 different chrome installations eating Ram and using your CPU like its nobody elses business.
You can argue that it "makes cross platform development easier" or "makes devs coding easier", but what's the point in doing that if the end user has to suffer for it?
I mean it's an electron app, it's going to be bloated and slow to begin with. That's why I've tried to find stuff like franz to try and minimize the number of "chrome windows" I have open. It sucks, but until one of those guys on github who has a half functional discord CLI client picks up the slack this is just how it'll be for a while until electron figures out how to slim down
yeah turn on hardware Acceleration and maybe also try reloading your client with CTRL + R cause with that amount of ram itโs possible youโre experiencing the memory leak issue
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:11:03 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
See my replies to other comments, hardware acceleration is not a fix, it just replaces one problem with another.
So I run two versions of discord at the same time on a ten year old junk laptop and don't seem to have problems. Sorry I can't give you power usage, task manager doesn't have that checkbox for whatever reason, but you can clearly see the CPU and memory is way less than yours. Why is Discord so hit and miss with this sort of thing?
That's odd, I am only getting 109MB. I wonder why it is so high?
ssj4VB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:26 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Set priority of app to very low if the high usage is consistent, if itโs only happening for a few seconds then goes down the back up etc then go for below normal, if itโs more of a medium with the occasional high then go for low
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:24 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't really fix the fact that it's a text client being an insane resource hog... It's almost the same CPU usage as CSGO...
ssj4VB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:29 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Disable hardware acsilliration (spelt wrong)
ssj4VB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:35 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve heard the suggestion of โlite modeโ here but in my opinion they should just make it so whenever your not on discord and your in another app or game then discord would be blacked out and if your using more then one monitor then you can make it extremely slow
I'd be inclined to agree with you on the resource usage if it was solely a chat client. We all know Discord is trying to be everything at once and I don't mind the extra resource usage for it to be able to do that.
It saves me having multiple apps open to do the same thing
That's fair enough but what do people expect from an app that does more than just voice chat. If they're that concerned then there are other options for lightweight VoIP services like Teamspeak or Mumble. Both are primarily for voice chat and don't use much of people's precious resources.
I've left hardware acceleration off. My 8 core/16 thread processor handles it pretty well, group calls only take around 1% of CPU, but Discord has noticably slowed down in the past updates.
i still trying to figure out what some of you guys are doing with discord never used more than 100 MB of ram or 3% CPU on a i5-4590 with only 4 cores and 4 threads.
just like Chrome never used more than 600MB of RAM but i mostly only have 2 Windows of it open and around 10 Tabs. One window is YouTube with 1080P video and the rest is Reddit or some forums
Enable hardware acceleration. Discord barely goes above 2-3% CPU and 0.5% GPU.
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:23:19 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Disabled hardware acceleration a while ago because it becomes a memory hog and uses way more than 0.5% gpu usage... It turns all of my games into a stutterfest.
it's because of chromium. If they wrote it without electron they wouldn't have that problem, but the client would be theoretically buggier and less cross platform
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:50:16 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I have a few dozen tabs of chrome open and I switch through most of them quite regularly, I think it's pretty understandable that it uses a lot of memory, especially considering I have the better part of 16GB available for it to use.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:53 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Don't now if its related but while playing CS:GO (cpu heavy) and talking in Discord my game or discord crashes randomly and i observed heavy spikes at my gpu/cpu. With smaller spikes and framedrops in-game (playing with net_graph 1 and checked the shadow play video if its actual fps drops), then mostly when there is alot of action goin and fast mouse movement, one of them just crashes.
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600
Edit: *fps
Rzn732 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:58 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey guys, so I notice my discord is laggy / choppy when I type in chats & navigate servers. Is this because the client uses a lot of CPU usage because of all the extra bullshit the app has nowadays? Ie. Activity tab, Store, Nitro etc etc. All the shit I could totally do without.
Discord even in my browser takes up a lot of resources. The client itself keeps app stacking itself usually it can run up to 8+ clients at the same time. I'm using Windows 1903 Insiders Preview.
ZJCD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:42 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It is crazy
XerixSS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:12 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When you have 2gb's of ram and complain about discord.
Unfortunately the devs at discord decided to add tons of unnecessary features at the cost of efficiency. Many times & suggestions have come up for a "Lite" version of discord - that would be extremely light on your computers resources, and scrap the resource heavy features altogether.
sadly, that has been denied or ignored time and time again. Maybe one day..
It frequently kicks up my laptop temps into 80c, only chrome running 60fps video gets that bad. I don't know anyone who uses it for anything than just basic text chat, that's all it should ever be running for me. There is no reason it needs 4 processes to display one single text chat, and there is no reason whatsoever a chat client would need so much juice to run it can only be compared to process intensive video...yet that is the situation. Something that is basically modern IRC is chugging my computer more than high definition video being played. It is quite literally unusable, and frankly an embarrassment to anyone who has even heard the word 'optimized'.
This is why you don't build your app on top of electron~
For those of you that aren't developers, Electron is a framework that allows you to build desktop apps just how you would web apps, however, by doing this it runs a modified version of Chromium, so essentially you're just running a dedicated instance of Chrome just for Discord.
On top of this Electron also implements another Framework, NodeJS, which brings JavaScript (the programming language behind pretty much anything interactable on the web), to the desktop, intended for use in programming web servers, however Electron uses it to allow apps built apon it to hook into the system they're being ran on, so; on top of essentially launching it's own instance of Chrome, it also starts it's own NodeJS runtime.
Now, this isn't really entirely Discord's fault, Electron is a wonderful place to grow your app, since you're essentially developing the same as you can for the web, it allows them to push their app both there, and to the desktop, and add features much easier than they could traditionally, however, this becomes a problem when your app has over 2 million users, and they really should've began to make the switch a long time ago. But that's also quite difficult considering how small their development team is.
Hozene ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:11:03 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You know what's unacceptable? Having Chrome open while playing Siege
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:52 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Chrome doesn't have insane background CPU usage at the very least. I don't really care if it uses a lot of RAM because I have more than enough to feed it, at least it doesn't use a bunch of CPU and GPU time just for existing...
The heavy resource consumption, centralisation, privacy issues and constant trouble with sound quality made me switch back to IRC and Mumble. Sometimes Google Chrome consumes less RAM than this god abandoned chat application.
I have seen threads like these a lot so I will try and explain what you are seeing with an image of my own. https://imgur.com/Gk5kShv this is a screenshot on my system and as you can see, Discord is using low power for me. The screenshot OP posted can be recreated under a certain condition, if you quickly move the mouse around in Discord.
This observation is no fault of Electron. Discord uses a lot of DOM listening for the effects that you see and that requires CPU power which in turn MOMENTARILY raises power consumption.
But don't believe me. Do try this out yourself. Having observable evidence is the best way to go around the internet instead of up-voting posts without any skepticism and commenting without verifying.
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:09:11 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The screenshot was made while I was typing a message in a server that has 5 total channels and <20 users...
I have yet to see another program that uses this much CPU time on any processor to just render letters appearing in chat.
This is exactly what it is. Unfortunately, its going to get buried in a heap of posts from people who've never profiled a web front end in their lifetime. Have an upvote for visibility.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:35 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that.
There's a memory leak going on with Discord, and they're trying to fix it.
Playerl ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:47 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think that is pretty normal since Discord is based on Chromium and that open-code project uses so much RAM, also, Discord haven't every took that memory and CPU usage from my computer, maybe try downgrading?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:55 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's definitely not normal for Discord to use THAT much RAM, even if its based on Chromium.
It's a memory leak issue; many programs have it, unfortunately.
56Bot ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:24 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Y U still on 32bit system ?
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Zelinkondorf ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:09:21 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Are these replies over a few years? Why DO I have a feeling these replies are years apart. I've seen a lot of "we're looking into it" or "submit a feedback" and then the same replies 2 years later. It's quite a bad business they're doing. They seem to not really care about their users
thanks-nowiamdumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:13 on December 6, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
and yet the problem has only gotten worse.
YOUTUBE-ItsXavLol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:38 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Tuff
Sh4dowCode ยท 348 points ยท Posted at 15:09:20 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just gonna leave this here.
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https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/
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Electron is flash for the desktop
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 15:13:33 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, read that back in the day, it wasn't particularly problematic back then but the last few months it's gotten way worse.
HippieAnalSlut ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 20:17:35 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
ever since the store came out discord's quality has been shit.
xXbluecubeXx ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 20:50:24 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly forgot the store was a thing til you mentioned it, and I use discord daily. Ha
HippieAnalSlut ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 21:27:55 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I just wanted a chat client. I wonder what we'll migrate too.
Shohdef ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:00:31 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Probs TS5 with me and my boys.
NaanBread13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:41 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When does TS5 release?
Shohdef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:56 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Unsure. I think it's currently in closed beta though so hopefully soon. There was also some updates made to the main website. Usually a good sign point.
NaanBread13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:02 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome, thanks!
lauriys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:13:33 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
pivoting
AXDZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:44:10 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'll probably make my own chat client in the near future. I'm still learning to code. atleast users will get some privacy there and maybe options to make their own custom theme. I'm not against it :)
ScrapTank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:58 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Eh Iโll probably make my own shit if discord ever eats dirt
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:10 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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ScrapTank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:00 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I mean itโll probably be like a homemede discord/ts hybrid
-aWildEevee ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:04:11 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I like the idea of it tbh but I think that itโs constantly being rendered. You have to remember that Discord is a web-based program. Itโs a client but itโs still web-based. With that being said they should make it to where youโre able to disable certain features. For example if you were able to disable the store page/tab entirely, you wouldnโt be rendering as much (and downloading data?). Itโs also worth noting that if youโre in a call and screen sharing or being screen shared to, your CPU, for some people, sky rockets (my friendโs does this and heโs unable to do anything while I share my screen until I turn it back off). Iโm not saying these are bad features by any means, I love it personally and I could never go back to Skype. But you should be able to disable some features in some way so the client doesnโt become unusable.
DiscoveryOV ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:18 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
According to the developers themselves, nothing is actually loaded into memory until you open it, everything is segmented off and ready to be โincludedโ as needed. So, the store should never be loaded unless you open it.
Brainiarc7 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:01:37 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Discord, as is at the present induces heavy stuttering in games that hit the CPU hard.
Hope they fix this.
HippieAnalSlut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:49:21 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
ANd I switched to discord cause skype was making my games perform worse. Though I did just score a free laptop, so maybe IT's just a dedicated discord machine.
Skatedivona ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:34:18 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This.
I donโt want another launcher. I donโt care if this is a chat client with a launcher, I want text/voice chat, keep the overhead low.
Fraerie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:30:52 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We've noticed the power consumption on iOS to have gone through the roof in the last 4-6 weeks and the on phone reporting is attributing it to Discord.
I went from my phone usually being at around 70% battery by the end of the day to around 25% with no significant change in usage patterns.
Gevroska ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 17:04:25 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that electron is flash, because when I used flash, it was for doing something.
Electron is just consuming ressources for nothing.
literallyfabian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:38:53 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Windows have nice libraries for a reason
CyanRyan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:32 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
21 hours later and no staff replies to this comment... ๐ค
Cephell ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:01:43 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Based. Last time I pointed this down I got slammed with downvotes. I didn't have a link though.
STM1993 ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 13:29:08 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
While I didn't see the same high usage of CPU/memory/power on my own desktop, the latest update has still caused extremely heavy slowdown for me. It lags to scroll, type or to even highlight buttons that I mouse over.
The only thing I can do to remedy it so far is to change the Discord app's window size.
(EDIT: Enabled hardware acceleration and that worked for me, but its still pretty unacceptable that it runs slow when its disabled)
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 13:45:28 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Hardware acceleration makes games unplayable by using up insane amounts of GPU time and RAM, has done for months now
Articfire17 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:40:31 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is it weird that I have none of these problems and mine is always updated
deathtech00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:34 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No, same here. Mine doesn't exhibit any of these issues, but I did a fresh install of windows after 1903 hit , so I have a fresh install of discord as well.
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 21:10:45 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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SuperSupermario24 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:46:34 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
...huh?
spairus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:10:33 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
It is going to sound silly, but try uninstalling and reinstalling. In my setup, every about 3-4 updates, discord completely breaks. It's not on the update, but the update procedure. it's random, and the issue is known for years (the forum post that I found to fix this was very old). If your comment describes my problem, this might just fix it, although yours seems different a bit. In my case, it straight up also slows down everything else until I fix it, not just discord. In the last 3 years using discord, I had my first occurrence 1 year in and had to fix it about 4 times since. Clearing caches and stuff didn't help, but this did.
alluran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:42 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just to make sure /u/Shuu37 knows too - Hardware acceleration isn't the solution to everything either - there are thousands (millions) of Microsoft Surface and other integrated devices out there which will throttle almost instantly the second anything starts using the onboard GPU for hardware acceleration.
For proof - go download Intel XTU and watch the throttles kick in when watching YouTube videos in Chrome (with HA) vs IE11 (no acceleration) - ironically due to the way Chrome has aggressively chased out the competition, but that's a whole different story.
MapleFckingSyrup ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 15:22:41 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Chrome VS Discord โ Battle For The RAM
Islamism ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 16:23:14 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Chrome Vs Chrome (2) you mean?
Steffi128 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 17:02:22 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Chrome 2: Electr
icon BoogalooHellnoRO ยท -40 points ยท Posted at 16:36:15 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
chrome doesnt use that much ram. the new memory leak in discord is simply a bug that will be fixed. thats all
CalicoCatalyst ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 16:44:56 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
discord is (essentially) built on chrome
Vesk123 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:01:23 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why you can "Inspect Elements" like in a browser. I accidentally pressed the shortcut and it appeared. I always suspected something was up...
nightc0d3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:44 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Discord is built with a technology called Electron which essentially allows people/companies to make desktop apps using web tech like HTML, CSS, JS instead of native programming languages. Itโs a great idea (faster developing, costs less, etc) but unfortunately the performance is bad. Electron bundles Chromium (which is the base of Chrome) into every Electron app therefore you can use Inspect Element like in Chrome.
OPโs issue isnโt caused entirely by Electron though.
HellnoRO ยท -28 points ยท Posted at 16:49:05 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
what does that have to do with my reply
Anew20034 ยท 193 points ยท Posted at 15:12:04 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have an application named Space Engine that's supposed to simulate the entire universe with a ratio of 1:1 scale. Now, keeping that in mind, I am very patient with it, and it does use a lot of CPU and Memory.
DISCORD STILL USES MORE CPU AND MEMORY THAN THAT. HOW DOES A CHAT APPLICATION NEED MORE RESOURCES THAN A UNIVERSE SIMULATOR!?
Infidel_Eraser ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:38:11 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How detailed is the solar system lol
Dannyx51 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 16:52:23 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty detailed from what i remember of it
JonaldJohnston ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:58:30 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Space Engine is great. It has all known astronomical objects and will randomly generate to fill in gaps. You can even land on the surface of planets and they look pretty damn good.
Dorito_Troll ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:48:31 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
dude Space Engine is incredible, so happy it has VR support now too
EpicWolverine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:37 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No way, is it just an update to the main application?
Dorito_Troll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:56 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
yep, go look it up on steam!
EpicWolverine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:41 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I didnโt know itโs on Steam now either. Now I just need a Vive...
Dorito_Troll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:35 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Works on the Rift and all the mixed reality headsets also :]
EpicWolverine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:52 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but none of those seem to be worth getting at the moment unless something new has been released.
HellnoRO ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 16:32:55 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i assure you it doesnt simulate the universe as it is, at once. that would be impossible. so it makes sense.
AwkwardNoah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:13 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but have you heard of Space Engineers which will literally cause a nuclear meltdown
ScionoicS ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:51:29 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Space engine knows exactly what it has to load and when. Discord is a client to dynamic media filled conversations. Comparing a very focused non multiplayer application to one that has to load multiple media types on demand is a futile task.
fortniteinfinitedab ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:20:56 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do you guys not have ram????
[deleted] ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 16:34:47 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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MisterSpak ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:12:51 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Especially when chances are good your laptop doesn't even have upgradeable RAM (looking at you, Apple).
Edit: Apple is not alone in this, but it's their fault this shit is widely accepted by the industry
fortniteinfinitedab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:47 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
But muh apple pro stand!!!!
N0tHimAgain ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:33:31 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I mean... There's a difference between "get more RAM" to someone with 2gb of RAM and someone with 16gb of RAM
tdavis25 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:28:35 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Never played Star Citizen have you?
ChubbyCookie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:53 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
do you guys not have phones ?
JjTheHusky ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 19:23:10 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hello everyone,
We have decided to leave this thread up for people to report similar bugs here, instead of opening new threads.
This is to help the Discord Developers fix the issue.
Thanks for the help!
Maximd1122 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:28:00 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a bug..? Iโve always had very high battery drain on my laptop while using Discord, not just on the latest version
JjTheHusky ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:56:29 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think the power usage status in task manager is accurate, but I believe it's to do with a module update that discord uses.
Yourw0rstfriend ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 12:52:49 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Gonna keep my discord not updated.
deadmeme__ ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 15:22:35 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
how can you? it forces you to update everytime you restart your pc or the client itself.
bigpunk157 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 15:24:55 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep mode. Never restart it. Problem solved (until you have too much memory leaked)
mynameajeff69 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 15:42:53 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
does it? i usually am like 7 updates behind lmfao. I have to click the green updater in the top right
Accomplished_Square ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:36:25 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Mine autoupdates when it opens, regardless if I click the green update button or not.
mynameajeff69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:55 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
weird, maybe a setting somewhere?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:20:50 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Go to the shortcut settings and remove the update parameter
Lustrissan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:51:46 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know that the Discord you launch is not actually Discord? It's actually and updater that launches Discord afterwards. If you launch Discord from install location, it won't update. Perhaps...
VampyMaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:23 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or ... Just never close it. It won't check for updates if it isn't closed xD
DeadWarriorBLR ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 15:23:43 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When you use Electron as a framework for your program
X_Shadow101_X ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 14:53:24 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
OwO
Im boutta cook some steak on your PC brb
getintheVandell ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 15:19:51 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Discord is getting so fucking bloated.
Chaski1212 ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 15:38:52 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We need a Discord Lite, for the original reason Discord was made for "voice and text chat for gamers" and nothing else.
I'd be capable of sacrificing video calling, the store, custom emojis, gif keyboard, screen sharing, image previews, search option, maybe even file transfer although it's really useful. Heck I could even sacrifice the nice gui that Discord has and replace it with something from the early 2000s.
xieso ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 15:46:29 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Totally agreed. Either a Lite version, or some way to disable a bunch of the unnecessary features that have been added. I think Discord was at its best 2-3 years ago. No store, no "server boosts", just a good chat client with great functionality that was funded by loyal patrons paying Nitro.
Its a shame how bloated it's become :(
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:13:31 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really have a problem with them adding features, it's just sad that they implement updates in such a lazy way.
Maximd1122 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:26:48 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I donโt think the new features are the issue... Ditching Electron and developing Discord without it would bring huge performance improvements.
lantaarnappel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:45 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That would be pretty much impossible. The only issue here seems the cpu usage which they can seems to be a bug. For an Electron app Discord is pretty well optimized actually, especially compared to Slack. If your computer isn't a potato the client runs fine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:44 on June 21, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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uwutranslator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:10 on June 21, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
dat wouwd be pwetty much impossibwe. de onwy issue hewe seems de cpu usage which dey can seems to be a bug. Fow an Ewectwon app Discowd is pwetty weww optimized actuawwy, especiawwy compawed to Swack. If yuw computew isn't a potato de cwient wuns fine. uwu
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kurlicue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:15 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately loyal patrons paying Nitro isn't enough
ValueNull ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:35:12 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Keep an eye on Volt
LegendaryLocksmith ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:04:00 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this!
Narked-Pegasus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:32:09 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Switching to this immediately. Thanks
Anu8ius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:48 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Isnt that breaking TOS tho?
ValueNull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:17:36 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shhhh
synackk ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:10:41 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Allow people to write their own clients without breaking the TOS. I wouldn't be offended if there was a Nitro-only feature that allowed you to use your own client without violating the TOS. I'm sure some people would write a lightweight client.
ColonialReddit098 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:00:39 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We don't need a Discord lite client, the current situation is heavily misunderstood.
This is NOT an electron issue, it is a bug to do with React Native, a fronted library used for rendering. A developer from Discord has recently confirmed this bug of heavy CPU usage is related to when they upgraded React Native.
Another issue is that people think the store and activities tab is bloat and it slows down the program. This is a completely made up issue derived from personal feelings and the tendency to place blame on something people don't know about.
To give you an idea how stupid this so called blaming of performance degradation due to the store page, imagine a website like Wikipedia. Their developers decided to place a link to their merchandise store at the bottom of the page. Do you think the website will slow down? Of course not, its a link to a separate web page that only loads when you click on it.
The same applies to Discord which is essentially a website. The activities page/store is not constantly in the background or in RAM. It only loads when you click on it. It is just a link on the client.
In times like this where the Discord client has not been performant is the recent update, we need to continue giving feedback and bug reports to the devs without knee jerk, threats, misinformation and speculation.
LegendaryLocksmith ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:59:42 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโd love a discord lite. I really only need speech and text tbh. The overlay would be nice too but that would need some work too. Donโt know who the problem lies with, but if Iโm trying to play apex it takes like 5 seconds (or more) to actually activate voice via PTT if the overlay is activated.
YourBobsUncle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:11 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I mean at that point it be better to just use IRC and then install a terminal client like weechat or something
alphanovember ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:48 on October 24, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
2000s design is way better than 2010s design. The latter is zero details, zero depth cues, missing elements, oversized elements, inadequate labeling, poor contrast, poor flows, obscene amounts of padding, and infuriatingly large text. It's a devolution paraded by inept devs that somehow couldn't figure out basic graphic design software during the 2000s (despite the thousands of tutorials) and just made up reasons to use this zero-effort-zero-detail design ("it's faster/easier to make!"). Even calling it "design" is giving it too much credit; it's nothing more than a draft, the graphic design equivalent of a napkin drawing.
MirRelevant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:58 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when one of the selling points against Skype was that discord wasn't as power hungry?
alphanovember ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:19 on October 24, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It has been for years, probably even since day one (I didn't use it back then). A chat client shouldn't need a loading screen and use nearly 200 MB of RAM. It's one of the many reasons that reasonable people consider it and its cousins like Slack to be cancer.
Anu8ius ยท -43 points ยท Posted at 15:31:07 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, fuck features that many asked for and that are super helpful to run servers!
dani3l_554 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 15:55:21 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or perhaps you could have those features but be able to disable them if you don't want them?
myshoeisbpafree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:20 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a pretty irrational perspective, and probably not relevant to this issue..
For a lite version I would disable things such as the Activity panel, the game store, animated emojis, etc. I don't use them ever, I see no use for them.
But for people who want these features, they can keep them; this is the advantage of having a somewhat modular discord, while appealing to those who want a lite version, and those who want every feature.
Anu8ius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:27 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well then problems would arise if a server depends/expects you to have certain features on. Not to mention that it woild be confusing for new users when they can/cant do things others can. Discord Lite coild be a cool idea in theory, but getting it to work on a server basis sounds like a nightmare, theres already enough people out there that dont know how to press a reaction...
Andnopo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:34:21 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For me discord desktop is so unusable, I have to use discord on web or on mobile
Orangepolarity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:20:05 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I use web discord and it still eats RAM and CPU like crazy. Close the tab, immediate cliff-face in resource use.
Beginning to think this isn't a bug and it's just got a fucking bitcoin miner in it or something.
Andnopo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:09 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For me, the web version works perfectly
WShibe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:09:58 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Electron.
Superalbix ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 14:38:38 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Chat client? Since they added that store everything changed. It's still the best video chat app out there but is not that discord from 3 years ago.
Infidel_Eraser ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:36:38 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ok thatโs cool and all but how is siege not eating up ur resources
whatthehckman ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:15:09 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
E L E C T R O N B A D
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 15:03:33 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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myshoeisbpafree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:21 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
who is teamspeak?
ReversDeath ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:21:04 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is it me or discord started to deteriorate over the past few mounths ? The server lags pretty often and now the client is fighting to death with chrome to earn the right to consum the mighty ram
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:10:06 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's worsened a lot in the last few months.
-TheDoctor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:54:58 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You know what's not acceptable is that R6S uses less RAM than Chrome....
Alaeuwu ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:35:13 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hate electron
TheTrueInsanity ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:06:24 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
weird, at least for me, discord almost never even uses 1% of my CPU and pretty much never more than 30MB of memory, my computer isn't a beast either, it's pretty low-grade, less than $700 probably, never knew it used to so much for some people, wonder why
MrZerodayz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:42:25 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
insert Electron/Chromium joke
NorincoSKS ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:27:17 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm getting like 2% usage max while in a call, could it be a machine specific thing?
itscara_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:39 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah.. I literally canโt even call and play Minecraft at the same time, itโs that bad.
Shuu37 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:14:49 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
We are aware of the issue and actively investigating.
Edit: Fix has been deployed, please restart your client (CTRL/CMD + R). If you are still having the issue please reply to this post.
Castletorch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:35:53 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
On an i5-6600, after restarting. Will Canary be getting the same treatment at some point?
Shuu37 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:47:28 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have hardware acceleration on or off? If it's off, try turning it on to help lower CPU usage.
Castletorch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:55:00 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hardware acceleration is already on. It's a completely vanilla client with no third party modifications, either internal or external. It does this to me consistently on multiple machines.
Shuu37 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:13:52 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Does it stay at 50% or is this a spike after doing something in the app?
Can you figure out if the usage goes this high in some cases and not others (what you are viewing in the app)
Can you capture what CPU usage you have in different tab types. (Friends Tab, Different Channels, Channels with a lot of gifs / emojis)
Are you in any servers that are appearing as "unavailable" ?
Castletorch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:58:58 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That spike there was after just moving the mouse around a bit, it settled down a bit afterwards but is still undesirable. And no, I'm not in any unavailable servers right now.
CPU usage will generally hover around at least 5-10% for me in most text channels. In the Friends tab and an inactive channel I see around a 3-5% utilisation. Viewing lots of emoji at once either in a channel or in the emoji picker will cause this to jump to around 25-30%. Interacting with the client in any way (moving the mouse especially) will cause the CPU usage to reach 30% and above almost immediately and consistently, sometimes up to nearly 100% depending on the server I'm in.
Here's a quick screencap of me just clicking through channels and wiggling my mouse around in DTesters.
Shuu37 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:12 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What other processes are running pinging you to 100% cpu usage?
Castletorch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:06 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A render job using a maximum of 25% of my CPU, Edge Anaheim with a good few tabs open and a large selection of background Windows processes doing Windowsey things.
James20k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:07 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is an electron problem, you'll notice something similar happens in all electron/chrome based apps
Eg try this in steam friends
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:02 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Have used hardware acceleration both on and off, with it on I get really bad stuttering in games and the CPU usage is still ~10%, the client renders at something like 10-15FPS as well. With it off the client renders at like 5 FPS and the usage when typing or moving the mouse anywhere over the window is as in the screenshot.
Shuu37 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:21:56 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same questions I asked /u/Castletorch.
Does it stay at 50% or is this a spike after doing something in the app?
Can you figure out if the usage goes this high in some cases and not others (what you are viewing in the app)
Can you capture what CPU usage you have in different tab types. (Friends Tab, Different Channels, Channels with a lot of gifs / emojis)
Are you in any servers that are appearing as "unavailable" ?
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:23 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
James20k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:38 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hi there, I notice that for me hardware acceleration is actually part of the problem - turning it on seems to allow discord to run at an uncapped framerate, which on a 240hz monitor is quite problematic
Simply mousing over discord can cause cpu usage to spike up to 80% usage which sucks
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 20:14:49 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Shuu37 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:17:22 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hence why we are investigating it. :)
alluran ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:21:20 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey /u/Shuu37 - I get that you're not going to be the only decision maker in a company the size of Discord, but some feedback to take back to your management:
Discord is a chat client targeted at Gamers. Gamers are a set of users who build entire second PCs just to offload the overhead of streaming their gameplay. They run custom software and windows tweaks to disable every non-essential service, and care far more about performance than any other set of users out there, except maybe high-frequency traders.
This isn't a "minor inconvenience, we'll get to it in the next few patches" - this is an existential crisis for the platform, right as it's attempting to pivot and monetize itself.
Right now, many would say that Discord is in a strong position, but it's not. It is weak. It's right at the point between becoming ubiquitous, and becoming a flop. If it nails its next few months, it may cement itself in place in similar fashion to Steam. If it doesn't sort out performance soon however, it's going to lose the good will of its target audience, and then all it would take is an efficient competitor with a bit of marketing money behind it, and Discord will find itself in a very vulnerable position.
It's already starting to build a reputation as a resource hog - that's toxic to the platform, and you need to curb that now
Case in point -> See here
brinmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:01 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's gotten worse: https://i.imgur.com/1IJCqVl.png
Shuu37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:49 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Can you try refreshing your client, and seeing if you still have this high CPU issue? If you can, open console in Discord and let me know what your BUILD INFO line is. Lastly, do you have hardware acceleration on?
brinmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:46 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Refreshed it ~2h ago, was in VC all the time, now it's at 25% and 1GB.
[BUILD INFO] Release Channel: stable, Build Number: 39827, Version Hash: a71659d861020493fcff753e5288bc627036c948
This happens when HW acceleration is either on or off.
Shuu37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:32 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How many servers are you in? How big are the servers you are in?
brinmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:08 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Must be around 20, most of them over a 1k members.
Shuu37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:47 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What's the largest server you're in?
brinmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:26 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
101k...lol
cyberpunk 2077
in the last 2h it was fine, no changed settings.
in_the_bubbleicious ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:30:23 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Electron is the issue. Until you are serious about removing it, these problems will continue. You already know that.
Shuu37 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:48 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is not an electron issue.
CyanRyan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:11:42 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
you're just gonna tell everyone in the thread that the reason your chat client constantly uses excessive resources (203mb of ram for a chat client? telegram uses 21) is 100% definitely not because it's actually a web browser with a chat client's UI, with no evidence?
ok
in_the_bubbleicious ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:39:46 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/
This link was upvoted to the top of the page for a reason. Don't ignore it.
On top of that, we have a thread full of screenshots with Discord eating gigabytes of ram and chewing through GPU to the point games lag. There is no need for it.
zuudo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:07:58 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Electron, despite being heavier than most would like in terms of resources, certainly does not cause the performance issues mentioned in this thread.
I maintain a fairly large Electron app which sits comfortably at 75 MB RAM usage and ~0.1% CPU time when idle, with a small increase when actively processing data. I have never seen issues like this appear in real world usage, which indicate either a bug with a stable release of Electron, or (more likely) poorly written code on the part of the developer.
Blindly quoting articles without understanding context is counterproductive, as this is clearly not a problem with Electron itself. A well made Electron app will never be able to match the performance of a "true" native app, but just look at VS Code - there are practically no complaints about performance, yet whenever someone has an issue with Discord, it's always Electron's fault, and anyone who says otherwise gets downvoted into oblivion (even if they're an actual employee of Discord)
I'd love to see a future where Electron doesn't require so much bloat, but for now, we have what we have.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:34 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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zuudo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:57 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't used any custom clients, but I imagine it's either due to a smaller feature set (less room for error) or, dare I say it, better testing before release. I can't be certain as I have no insight into the development of any client, custom or not.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:43 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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zuudo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:07 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You'd need to ask Discord themselves about it, I'm just a random person.
SupDos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:28:39 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Please open the link and read it before you keep downvoting these comments, Electron/CEF is a massive resource hog, whether you like it or not, and it feels like now every single program is using it. Chrome itself already is a massive Ram eater, imagine having 5 different chrome installations eating Ram and using your CPU like its nobody elses business.
You can argue that it "makes cross platform development easier" or "makes devs coding easier", but what's the point in doing that if the end user has to suffer for it?
GuardianAnal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:55 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
pphhhfffttt
sks316 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:10 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it is. Electron is essentially just a stripped-down Chrome.
midved ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:16 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Electron is chrome in app form ๐
extracc ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:59 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Restarted and it's still bloated laggy electron, just like before.
itsw1ndy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:35:16 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My discord is up to date and consistently uses <1% of my CPU, idk where these problems are coming from
gregjay03 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:57:54 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Discord is using a chrome wrapper, no surprise
Sarenord ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:42:43 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's an electron app, it's going to be bloated and slow to begin with. That's why I've tried to find stuff like franz to try and minimize the number of "chrome windows" I have open. It sucks, but until one of those guys on github who has a half functional discord CLI client picks up the slack this is just how it'll be for a while until electron figures out how to slim down
GlenMerlin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:11 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
yeah turn on hardware Acceleration and maybe also try reloading your client with CTRL + R cause with that amount of ram itโs possible youโre experiencing the memory leak issue
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:11:03 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
See my replies to other comments, hardware acceleration is not a fix, it just replaces one problem with another.
BranflakesYT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:02 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I was using discord yesterday and it was so Laggy I couldn't even type. I have no idea what's going on
supremecrafters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:33 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So I run two versions of discord at the same time on a ten year old junk laptop and don't seem to have problems. Sorry I can't give you power usage, task manager doesn't have that checkbox for whatever reason, but you can clearly see the CPU and memory is way less than yours. Why is Discord so hit and miss with this sort of thing?
ItsCommonEra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:46 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My boy playing siege. Also 250 mb of ram isnt a lot...
BilboDaBoss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:39 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's odd, I am only getting 109MB. I wonder why it is so high?
ssj4VB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:26 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Set priority of app to very low if the high usage is consistent, if itโs only happening for a few seconds then goes down the back up etc then go for below normal, if itโs more of a medium with the occasional high then go for low
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:24 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't really fix the fact that it's a text client being an insane resource hog... It's almost the same CPU usage as CSGO...
ssj4VB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:29 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Disable hardware acsilliration (spelt wrong)
ssj4VB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:35 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve heard the suggestion of โlite modeโ here but in my opinion they should just make it so whenever your not on discord and your in another app or game then discord would be blacked out and if your using more then one monitor then you can make it extremely slow
Niko_Boban ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:44 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine having a old computer but you need to have Discord, true pain everybody knows for...
Alortania ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:59 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How'd you get power usage to show up?
Mine only has CPU/Memory/Disk/Network/GPU
deadBuiltIn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:21 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just download more GHz for your PC, not that hard
Smithy5995 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:18 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be inclined to agree with you on the resource usage if it was solely a chat client. We all know Discord is trying to be everything at once and I don't mind the extra resource usage for it to be able to do that. It saves me having multiple apps open to do the same thing
Dimbreath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:49 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Some people mind the extra resources usage.
Smithy5995 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:05:25 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's fair enough but what do people expect from an app that does more than just voice chat. If they're that concerned then there are other options for lightweight VoIP services like Teamspeak or Mumble. Both are primarily for voice chat and don't use much of people's precious resources.
Minighost244 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:32:49 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've left hardware acceleration off. My 8 core/16 thread processor handles it pretty well, group calls only take around 1% of CPU, but Discord has noticably slowed down in the past updates.
DerFette88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:26 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i still trying to figure out what some of you guys are doing with discord never used more than 100 MB of ram or 3% CPU on a i5-4590 with only 4 cores and 4 threads.
just like Chrome never used more than 600MB of RAM but i mostly only have 2 Windows of it open and around 10 Tabs. One window is YouTube with 1080P video and the rest is Reddit or some forums
rust-ezeeeee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:17 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
windows xp error
ScumbagScotsman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:05:57 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Enable hardware acceleration. Discord barely goes above 2-3% CPU and 0.5% GPU.
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:23:19 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Disabled hardware acceleration a while ago because it becomes a memory hog and uses way more than 0.5% gpu usage... It turns all of my games into a stutterfest.
scarystuff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:58:04 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
wtf are you doing to Discord? Mine uses less than 1%. I have hardware acceleration disabled.
its_not_monarrk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:38 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
it's because of chromium. If they wrote it without electron they wouldn't have that problem, but the client would be theoretically buggier and less cross platform
TheDownDiggity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:44 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit.
BeepBeepImASadFuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:18 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Discord is one thing
But Google Chrome is something else
Bluethefurry ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:14:38 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
noone tell him electron is chromium-based
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:50:16 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I have a few dozen tabs of chrome open and I switch through most of them quite regularly, I think it's pretty understandable that it uses a lot of memory, especially considering I have the better part of 16GB available for it to use.
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jannemann420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:18 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Don't now if its related but while playing CS:GO (cpu heavy) and talking in Discord my game or discord crashes randomly and i observed heavy spikes at my gpu/cpu. With smaller spikes and framedrops in-game (playing with net_graph 1 and checked the shadow play video if its actual fps drops), then mostly when there is alot of action goin and fast mouse movement, one of them just crashes.
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600
Edit: *fps
Rzn732 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:58 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey guys, so I notice my discord is laggy / choppy when I type in chats & navigate servers. Is this because the client uses a lot of CPU usage because of all the extra bullshit the app has nowadays? Ie. Activity tab, Store, Nitro etc etc. All the shit I could totally do without.
M3meL0rd1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:10 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It happens when im in a call and we are sharing our screens
Nymrinae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:08 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
my Discord took almost 0.5 Go RAM. purely shit
theoxygenproject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:09 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Rainbow Six :omega:
zemuf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:03 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same, I lose like 60-90 fps in every game with discord open
iCoExist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:03 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why I've started using Mumble/TeamSpeak just when I need voice while gaming. Discord just sucks up too much resources to be usable.
vai2iant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:25 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Discord even in my browser takes up a lot of resources. The client itself keeps app stacking itself usually it can run up to 8+ clients at the same time. I'm using Windows 1903 Insiders Preview.
ZJCD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:42 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It is crazy
XerixSS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:12 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When you have 2gb's of ram and complain about discord.
korosi420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:45 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, i see you're a man on culture as well. Fellow Siege player.
Timewarp76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:17 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
True, discord is bloated give us discord lite!
Vox_Populi98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:10 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Unrelated but I see Siege, what servers do you play on?
nFs_Naz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:56 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ah.. i see , the Rainbow Six one u mean ? agreed !
On a side note , mine doesn't hog that much memory to even make me notice i have it open at times -_-
pieteek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:20 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is really not acceptable... For a game.
gamerg_yt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:42 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
im legit gonna stop using client for now and use the browser instead
myshoeisbpafree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:30 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is not a new issue at all..
Unfortunately the devs at discord decided to add tons of unnecessary features at the cost of efficiency. Many times & suggestions have come up for a "Lite" version of discord - that would be extremely light on your computers resources, and scrap the resource heavy features altogether.
sadly, that has been denied or ignored time and time again. Maybe one day..
tkburis1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:29 on June 19, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
iTS mOre thAN a cHat cLieNt
ManBearPigIets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:16 on June 21, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
It frequently kicks up my laptop temps into 80c, only chrome running 60fps video gets that bad. I don't know anyone who uses it for anything than just basic text chat, that's all it should ever be running for me. There is no reason it needs 4 processes to display one single text chat, and there is no reason whatsoever a chat client would need so much juice to run it can only be compared to process intensive video...yet that is the situation. Something that is basically modern IRC is chugging my computer more than high definition video being played. It is quite literally unusable, and frankly an embarrassment to anyone who has even heard the word 'optimized'.
thanks-nowiamdumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:15 on December 6, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
welp now I am convinced just to uninstall and use browser if I need to chat with people on discord.
Its been a problem for months and only has gotten worse.
SkolViking944 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:11 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do a full reinstall or something, dont have this issue
ramond_gamer11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:47 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
This is why you don't build your app on top of electron~
For those of you that aren't developers, Electron is a framework that allows you to build desktop apps just how you would web apps, however, by doing this it runs a modified version of Chromium, so essentially you're just running a dedicated instance of Chrome just for Discord.
On top of this Electron also implements another Framework, NodeJS, which brings JavaScript (the programming language behind pretty much anything interactable on the web), to the desktop, intended for use in programming web servers, however Electron uses it to allow apps built apon it to hook into the system they're being ran on, so; on top of essentially launching it's own instance of Chrome, it also starts it's own NodeJS runtime.
Now, this isn't really entirely Discord's fault, Electron is a wonderful place to grow your app, since you're essentially developing the same as you can for the web, it allows them to push their app both there, and to the desktop, and add features much easier than they could traditionally, however, this becomes a problem when your app has over 2 million users, and they really should've began to make the switch a long time ago. But that's also quite difficult considering how small their development team is.
in_the_bubbleicious ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:19 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Doubt
ramond_gamer11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:18 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I gave reasons why.
Kaspyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:06 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to Chromium...
NyandeloNyaximus ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:40 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
lol, u use windows.
alexzim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:38 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What did you expect him to use? That's a messenger with the targeted audience of gamers.
chickmagnet3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:00:15 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, because Linux doesn't have games, or Steam...
alexzim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:38:35 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Enjoy 2.5 mainstream games you've got then
NyandeloNyaximus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:38:46 on June 18, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
XD sure, 2.5
Will enjoy them, alright!
Hozene ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:11:03 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You know what's unacceptable? Having Chrome open while playing Siege
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:52 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Chrome doesn't have insane background CPU usage at the very least. I don't really care if it uses a lot of RAM because I have more than enough to feed it, at least it doesn't use a bunch of CPU and GPU time just for existing...
98otiss03 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:37:56 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
E l e c t r o n
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:47:55 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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alluran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:58 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe? See here
Ack_Ack_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:23:57 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is why i use the mobile or the bowser version. The app is the same like the bowser, really no point. Just wastes space.
devfrankie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:40:00 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Discord is bloated
Kuronuma ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:02:48 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The heavy resource consumption, centralisation, privacy issues and constant trouble with sound quality made me switch back to IRC and Mumble. Sometimes Google Chrome consumes less RAM than this god abandoned chat application.
thefirstwave_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:45:56 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This shit is just becoming Skype. Remember how Skype ended?
It was originally a reliable, useful chat service which usually ran quickly and efficiently.
Then, Microsoft bought Skype, and it became bloated, the servers were shit, and it used CPU cycles like a video was rendering in the background.
Discord is better than Teamspeak or Skype? Soon, it'll be in the same boat.
OverMighty ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 14:39:31 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How does Rainbow Six Siege only use 400 MB of RAM while Minecraft 1.14.2 eats all of the maximum 2 GB of RAM that the -Xmx2G flag allows it to eat
iLikeDreaming ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:49:50 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
because Java.
you_got_fragged ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:22:00 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
the recent updates seem to have worsened the performance as well. not sure what they did
UndeniableDork ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 15:01:39 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Use the website on chrome.
Edit: why would I be downvoted for this?
Oetii ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:57:44 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
even worst chrome eats more ram
alluran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:15 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Discord runs it's own instance of Chrome, PLUS an instance of Node.JS - it's called "Electron"...
SilentGarud ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:21 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen threads like these a lot so I will try and explain what you are seeing with an image of my own. https://imgur.com/Gk5kShv this is a screenshot on my system and as you can see, Discord is using low power for me. The screenshot OP posted can be recreated under a certain condition, if you quickly move the mouse around in Discord.
This observation is no fault of Electron. Discord uses a lot of DOM listening for the effects that you see and that requires CPU power which in turn MOMENTARILY raises power consumption.
But don't believe me. Do try this out yourself. Having observable evidence is the best way to go around the internet instead of up-voting posts without any skepticism and commenting without verifying.
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:09:11 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The screenshot was made while I was typing a message in a server that has 5 total channels and <20 users...
I have yet to see another program that uses this much CPU time on any processor to just render letters appearing in chat.
aribaren ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:42:27 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly what it is. Unfortunately, its going to get buried in a heap of posts from people who've never profiled a web front end in their lifetime. Have an upvote for visibility.
i_devour_glue ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:37 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Chrome is eating ur memory
Ocean_Sky ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:00 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Whelp im on desktop so i dont gotta worry about batteries
Stoneriley ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:57 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just get more RAM 4head
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:35 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that.
There's a memory leak going on with Discord, and they're trying to fix it.
Playerl ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:47 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think that is pretty normal since Discord is based on Chromium and that open-code project uses so much RAM, also, Discord haven't every took that memory and CPU usage from my computer, maybe try downgrading?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:55 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's definitely not normal for Discord to use THAT much RAM, even if its based on Chromium.
It's a memory leak issue; many programs have it, unfortunately.
56Bot ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:24 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Y U still on 32bit system ?
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:05 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Your face when 32-bit binaries run as 32-bit on a 64-bit system
56Bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:29 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
32-bit binaries run on 64-bit systems, but aren't optimised.
ChemicalGraph ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:45 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. You're running a 32-bit system?!
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:09 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Your face when 32-bit binaries run as 32-bit on a 64-bit system
ChemicalGraph ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:13 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oof. Maybe I shouldn't be on these Reddits. Lol
๐๏ธ qhfreddy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:58:17 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Today u learned ;)
TLR_Spartan ยท -32 points ยท Posted at 15:02:45 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's because you have 4 instances of Discord running.
Kyr4l ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:13:17 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
did you ever opened a task manager ?
alluran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:37 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait till /u/TweeFriend and /u/TLS_Spartan open task manager and see Chrome sitting there, with 50 "terminals" or "instances" running!
Veradragon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:48:33 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
All 4 of those instances are actually just one. All do different things.
IWillBeNobodyPerfect ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:07:30 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Then enable hardware acceleration, stop making your CPU do stuff that can be done with dedicated hardware
alluran ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:26:20 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Great - now my CPU drops to 1.9GHz or lower every time I use Discord.
Thanks for the tip professor PC!
(TIP: Some people use Discord on computers with an integrated GPU, and all that HA does there is result in the CPU throttling almost instantly)
IWillBeNobodyPerfect ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:33 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Your welcome.
ethereal-mist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:56 on June 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Haha
TweeFriend ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 15:24:05 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You have 4 discord terminals running dumball
Veradragon ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:49:00 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's just 1 instance :v
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:21 on June 16, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
All 4 of those are actually one instance. You close one, the whole client closes.