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Haven't heard of that one but reading it over it looks like there's definitely some similarity - I guess you could say the Basilisk thought experiment puts the AI in the position of the player in Kafka's poison thought experiment - it is rational for the AI - which doesn't yet exist - to decide to punish you once it exists, so that you'll be incenticized to bring it into existence, but once it exists, it no longer has any reason to punish you - just like you'll no longer have any reason to poison yourself once you've already gotten the reward for deciding to poison yourself.

For more detail on what I was saying, Roko's Basilisk is often compared (usually pejoritively) to Pascal's Wager,, which is an argument designed to show that it's in your rational self interest to believe in God. Both thought experiments involve balancing risks between a scenario with infinite penalty (the AI is built and tortures you forever for not helping to build it) and one with finite penalty (the AI is not built, and so the time you spent trying to build it is wasted)

Both the Wager and the Basilisk have a similar common refutation, which is that they're arbitrary. You can use the same reasoning in the Wager to justify believing in any religion with an afterlife (e.g. "It's in my rational self interest to sacrifice babies to Garlok the Destroyer, since he might reward me infinitely if I do, and I only suffer the finite penalty of life in prison). Similarly, you can use the Basilisk's logic to justify creating a competing AI to the Basilisk that will punish anyone who tries to create the Basilisk, which is the joke I've made above.

Plus some people do have problems with existential questions and hypotheticals like this one. Only I’m too dumb to truly get what the hell is the point of the damn basilisk anyways

m e when the skinwaler is in my house and im in the forest and he eat me!

I can"t think of a new subreddit that dropped that hardly

Me wjen my dog explode??!?!, (1 million reddit upvote)

What's even dumber about Rocco's Basilisk, is that it would be pretty unlikely that an all powerful AI would even care what you spent your money on.

I mean, is me paying my taxes, that will eventually end up in research enough? Do I have to donate to a university? AI research in general? Or like donate to some ultra specific AI research facility?

It makes no sense at all, and it is so vague, that it's not even threatening

Not 100% sure, but I've heard the og creators are a bunch of numbskulls, and apparently they denounced it cause it was "too dangerous to discuss".

Although to be fair, if it was stressing people out then that's a good reason to want people to stop talking about it I guess.

It does do a kinda clever thing where, in thinking about it, you've essentially made it real, cause you're effectively fighting the possibility of the snake being real. Given that all possibilities have a non zero chance of coming true, and if you believe in multiverse theory, the moment you think about it you are now forced to appease it or else theres a universe where it gets you. Im def butchering the explanation, but as a concept it is actually kinda cool. I could imagine an excellent fictional villain who uses a similar trick to fight someone in the past. However, that's all it is. A neat little thought expirement on how something in the future could affect us in the past. It's hardly a genuine threat like some people say.

Final dumb thing to add, in what fucking world would an AI bother torturing copies of people for not helping be in some way effective. And why would making it guarantee that it tortures people? So much of it is based off of assumptions around "Oh yeah this will certainly happen, nevermind all the other outcomes"

So this is what confuses me. Why should I care about what a simulation of me experiences? Like if I'm already dead it can't hurt me no? This is always the part that's confused me about this though experiment. At least in Pascal's wager its my soul being carried into the next life that I'm wagering

I think it’s supposed to be AI but calling it a robot snake is funnier

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Bringing it to discussion is actively contributing, we are not making it regress, but we sidestep while progressing)

That's the 'mechanism')

I believe it should be blue on some parts and green on others (I have contributed, and in doing so reconciled your differences so that you have both contributed)

Counterpoint: all chimeratech dragons require cyber dragon as material

I think in this case though it wouldn't necessarily be the consciousness itself but the stream of consciousness. In this case once you actually die, regardless of whether or not you're in Heaven, Hell, Oblivion, or reincarnated the fact of the matter is that the recreation of you by the basilisk is going to have a separate stream of consciousness entirely. Even if it is an absolutely perfect recreation of you you will not be experiencing things from its senses. It's like me saying if you don't do my bidding I'm going to clone you and then torture the clone to death while you're free to do whatever you want.