Here's a useful comment I've saved from /u/0102030405
Hey OP... I used to be the guy who worked for insurance companies, and determined the value of every little thing in your house. The guy who would go head-to-head with those fire-truck-chasing professional loss adjusters. I may be able to help you not get screwed when filing your claim.
Our goal was to use the information you provided, and give the lowest damn value we can possibly justify for your item.
For instance, if all you say was "toaster" -- we would come up with a cheap-as-fuck $4.88 toaster from Walmart, meant to toast one side of one piece of bread at a time. And we would do that for every thing you have ever owned. We had private master lists of the most commonly used descriptions, and what the cheapest viable replacements were. We also had wholesale pricing on almost everything out there, so really scored cheap prices to quote. To further that example:
If you said "toaster - $25" , we would have to be within -20% of that... so, we would find something that's pretty much dead-on $20.01.
If you said "toaster- $200" , we'd kick it back and say NEED MORE INFO, because that's a ridiculous price for a toaster (with no other information given.)
If you said "toaster, from Walmart" , you're getting that $4.88 one.
If you said "toaster, from Macys" , you'd be more likely to get a $25-35 one.
If you said "toaster", and all your other kitchen appliances were Jenn Air / Kitchenaid / etc., you would probably get a matching one.
If you said "Proctor Silex 42888 2-Slice Toaster from Wamart, $9", you just got yourself $9.
If you said "High-end Toaster, Stainless Steel, Blue glowing power button" ... you might get $35-50 instead. We had to match all features that were listed.
I'm not telling you to lie on your claim. Not at all. That would be illegal, and could cause much bigger issues (i.e., invalidating the entire claim). But on the flip side, it's not always advantageous to tell the whole truth every time. Pay attention to those last two examples.
I remember one specific customer... he had some old, piece of shit projector (from mid-late 90s) that could stream a equally piece of shit consumer camcorder. Worth like $5 at a scrap yard. It had some oddball fucking resolution it could record at, though -- and the guy strongly insisted that we replace with "Like Kind And Quality" (trigger words). Ended up being a $65k replacement, because the only camera on the market happened to be a high-end professional video camera (as in, for shooting actual movies). $65-goddam-thousand-dollars because he knew that loophole, and researched his shit.
Remember to list fucking every -- even the most mundane fucking bullshit you can think of. For example, if I was writing up the shower in my bathroom:
Designer Shower Curtain - $35
Matching Shower Curtain Liner for Designer Shower Curtain - $15
Shower Curtain Rings x20 - $15
Stainless Steel Soap Dispenser for Shower - $35
Natural Sponge Loofah - from Whole Foods - $15
Natural Sponge Loofah for Back - from Whole Foods - $19
Holder for Loofahs - $20
Bars of soap - from Lush - $12 each (qty: 4)
Bath bomb - from Lush - $12
High end shampoo - from salon - $40
High end conditioner - from salon - $40
Refining pore mask - from salon - $55
I could probably keep thinking, and bring it up to about $400 for the contents of my shower. Nothing there is "unreasonable" , nothing there is clearly out of place, nothing seems obviously fake. The prices are a little on the high-end, but the reality is, some people have expensive shit -- it won't actually get questioned. No claims adjuster is going to bother nitpicking over the cost of fucking Lush bath bombs, when there is a 20,000 item file to go through. The adjuster has other shit to do, too.
Most people writing claims for a total loss wouldn't even bother with the shower (it's just some used soap and sponges..) -- and those people would be losing out on $400.
Some things require documentation & ages. If you say "tv - $2,000" -- you're getting a 32" LCD, unless you can provide it was from the last year or two w/ receipts. Hopefully you have a good paper trail from credit/debit card expenditure / product registrations / etc.
If you're missing paper trails for things that were legitimately expensive -- go through every photo you can find that was taken in your house. Any parties you may have thrown, and guests put pics up on Facebook. Maybe an Imgur photo of your cat, hiding under a coffee table you think you purchased from Restoration Hardware. Like... seriously... come up with any evidence you possibly can, for anything that could possibly be deemed expensive.
The fire-truck chasing loss adjusters are evil sons of bitches, but, they actually do provide some value. You will definitely get more money, even if they take a cut. But all they're really doing, is just nitpicking the ever-living-shit out of everything you possibly owned, and writing them all up "creatively" for the insurance company to process.
Sometimes people would come back to us with "updated* claims. They tried it on their own, and listed stuff like "toaster", "microwave", "tv" .. and weren't happy with what they got back. So they hired a fire-truck chaser, and re-submitted with "more information." I have absolutely seen claims go from under $7k calculated, to over $100k calculated. (It's amazing what can happen when people suddenly "remember" their entire wardrobe came from Nordstrom.)
xpkranger ยท 2514 points ยท Posted at 02:31:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus - That would take me literally months to inventory my house like that. I mean I see why you suggest all of it - and I'm saving your post. But wow...
What about Antiques? Historical or family documents? Electronics that came with the house that you don't have a receipt for?
waltpsu ยท 2370 points ยท Posted at 02:49:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Take 10 minutes, and go all throughout your house (fairly slowly) with a video camera. Back it up to the cloud. If you ever have a house fire, then you can watch that video and spend all of that time compiling an inventory list.
sceIIaux ยท 1103 points ยท Posted at 02:58:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit... solid fucking idea. Add that with a receipt scanner and bank statements. You've got your whole house back.
โI painted over them to protect the gold. And Iโll have you know that that is no ordinary โsteelโ paint, itโs dull platinum, which can only be made with 10,000 pounds of platinum.โ
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:20:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
You can double or triple that if you include external locks.
We recently had our front door lock replaced because the one I installed broke (it was a tiny piece of plastic that prevented the handle from springing back above vertical when you let it go) so I called on the warranty to get a new part. The company had discontinued the line and couldnโt find a replacement part. After a bit of back and forth I made a joke that we could be persuaded to trade in our $170 lock for their newest $700 computerised one with Bluetooth, NFC cards, heat sensitive keypad and a heap of other features I havenโt actually figured out and absolutely stunned when they agreed AND insisted on having their locksmith install it.
Download Google Cardboard Camera, stand in the middle of the room, hit record and do a 360* spin. Repeat as needed. Throw on a VR headset and be amazed. Also works well for inventorying gramma for when sheโs not around anymore. Reach out and touch someone!
Toger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:19:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Beware taking the photos in a format that might be difficult to recover, or to make available to adjusters.
They are just stored as JPEG. Iโm pretty sure that JPEG is widely supported.
Itโs a stop gap measure anyways to remind them of what they have in each room until they can make a proper inventory with individual photos of important items. Itโs better to have something than nothing.
Upload them to the cloud too so you have offsite storage. If your house burns down it doesnโt help much if the only copy was a phone or camera left on an end table.
I take a pic the SN of any electronics I buy, if it's ever stolen I can get it back and if it burns down I can prove I owned a specific model. Even individual computer parts, my blender, I just go through my automatic backups every once in a while and move them over. I took a picture of my DVD collection.
I have a couple of things from YEARS ago. I suppose this day in age you can control + F key words on bank statements and find it for major items.
Stuff like my TVs, laptops, gaming systems, DBZ collection, etc etc I wanted to take photos of. The rest like pots, pans, clothes, I just took pictures of.
ClaudiuT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Some people receive laptops / consoles or other valuable stuff as gifts. So you won't find those in your bank statements...
But on the other hand, if you buy stuff for other people, you can say that the bank statements prove that you owned that stuff too and should get reimbursed for it!
When my friendโs house burned down, they contacted me asking if I had taken any photos in the house. They literally just wanted any evidence at all of what they owned to help substantiate their claims.
NedryOS ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 05:13:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My eldest brother was in the Air Force when I was a teen, stationed in Germany. Because he relocated often, he took to video recording and photographing his possessions before movers took over with each deployment. He taught us the value of that back in the 80s, and as we lived in Florida at the time, we started doing it at the beginning of every hurricane season, or some years on New Years Day after we got new things for Christmas.
Also, nowadays there are apps that allow you to scan in the UPC on books, dvds, video games, etc which the keeps an updated insurance record of your collections and their retail value at the time you add it.
How important are serial numbers? When I moved, I took videos of all my appliances running in case the movers broke them, but don't have any serial numbers.
Serial numbers, like model numbers, give you the ability to better match features and prices of the item rather than a generic item that may or may not have the features you previously had.
Probably not. Sometimes there might be minor changes in a specific model of a device, but as for electronics, that is typically firmware/software related. S/N also indicates the date of manufacturing (only the manufacturer would have that information) which could potentially help pinpoint the age of the device, but again, likely not useful in this scenario. A picture/video of the item with the model number will give you all you need to know (receipt/proof of purchase would be the only accompanying info that could assist).
Ahielia ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:51:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You mean how Reddit as a whole works?
waltpsu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs ok, hopefully more people see it and it helps some people. Not really an original thought, Iโve probably seen that 20x here on Reddit (and I personally just did the video inventory a few weeks ago so it was top-of-mind). Thanks for the heads up, and I do appreciate your comment in that thread giving credit to exactly where OP got the idea!
Chaise91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Also, another pro-tip is don't burn your fuckin house down tomorrow and go and say to your adjustor "oh i just happen to have this video from yesterday". Might raise some flags......
As a photographer and videographer SLOWLY is a huge keyword. I had a friend try to show me her apartment via video but she just kept moving and everything was a blur. Panoramics of each room would also work well as nothing in the room moves.
I do this once a year with my phone. Making โmajorโ and โminorโ videos for each room. And each compartment of each room. And last year i started keeping a running list. It takes time to get started but once you do it is usually easy to keep it up to date every 6months.
n3cr0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:34 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have a really crazy neighborhood around 4th it July every year with tons of (illegal) mortar style fireworks. I do an annual video inventory every July 3rd because of this. Iโll go into every closet and even open some of the drawers with expensive items.
kathios ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 03:00:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
There's an app called Encircle that let's you take multiple pics of an item and label it for this very reason.
bostess ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 04:25:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i always took pictures when i visited home so after our home burned i was the only one that could basically put together panoramic shots of our house and the contents.
having said that, my mom had an antique cabinet full of blue onion dishes. i forget why theyโre valuable, but theyโre old, made in germany(?), and expensive. $100/plate kind of expensive.
she had full sets, soup tureens, etc. the picture i had couldnโt definitively prove they were originals so they did what the person above said. found the closest and cheapest match (aka imitation/reproductions) and that was that. thousands of dollars whittled down to a few hundred bucks, if that. i wish we had known about the above information because we really got screwed by not naming exact name brands and specifics.
RexDraco ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:26:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Historical and family documents have value, financial value, and you can easily find out based on age what that is to collectors. Even old photographs sell for some money.
I recommend a bulky (ie: couldn't be carried out of the house) fire-proof safe for critical documents (birth certificate, house deed, whatever essential documents you may have collected.)
The town of Canadian. 1000โs evacuated, it was a complete loss.
Pnohmes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:39 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, thatโs what I thought you were saying. From Amarillo, so I remember that well. Freakinโ insurance screwed everybody and even the charity outreach from United way and such was highly ineffective. Pisses me off to think about.
Gorshiea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Antiques and exceptionally valuable items should be appraised. Get a certificate and make electronic copies. Add them as individual items to your insurance. The appraiser usually keeps records, so they can be cross-referenced in a dispute (to demonstrate you're not trying to scam the insurance company by making up expensive items on the fly).
ace425 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey OP, I'm pretty familiar with this topic. Many homeowners / rental insurance policies specifically do NOT cover things like artwork, antiques, firearms, jewelry, and cash. These items typically require a separate riders policy to be covered. As for electronics you have to show proof that they were in working condition before the claim. Basically just take a quick video on your phone with your TVs, computers, tablets, etc turned on and working. Make sure to also get a clear view of the serial numbers as well.
Toger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
>antiques
Valuable antiques may require a supplementary rider on your insurance and some form of pre-claim valuation. The insurance company is not going to just take your word for the fact that the vase in a picture is actually a $2M ancient vase, and pay that out on a standard homeowners policy. If they don't have outright exclusions in the standard policy for antiques it'll be a low limit. Same for jewelry.
>electronics
Your policy will have an electronics limit; if you have an entertainment den with $20K in gear you'll need a rider on your policy. Receipts are not necessary (the vast majority of people don't keep them, insurance would never have to pay out) but showing you owned the item is the important bit. I suppose a receipt would be useful to show that you owned an item seemed otherwise totally out of character for the rest of your claim; in case the insurance company suspects you borrowed some pricy items during the picture taking to beef up your claim.
Historical or family documents should be stored at a minimum in a local fire/water proof safe (as it wouldn't do for the safe to keep the papers from burning only to have them dissolve in the suppression water); a bank safe deposit box is also a great place for these. Irreplaceable documents should probably have a digital copy in cloud storage somewhere remote from the location of the original.
Historical or family documents should be stored at a minimum in a local fire/water proof safe (as it wouldn't do for the safe to keep the papers from burning only to have them dissolve in the suppression water); a bank safe deposit box is also a great place for these. Irreplaceable documents should probably have a digital copy in cloud storage somewhere remote from the location of the original.
The problem is I have dozens of boxes full of letters, pictures, family bibles and scrapbooks and stuff dating back to the 1840's. Fireproof safes for all of that stuff would cost a fortune. Ugh...
Toger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thats quite a collection. A digital copy of everything that can be reasonably placed in a scanner or on a camera table is a good idea. Thats a tough one.
This happened to me when I was 12 and it took my parents so long to inventory everything, they spent so many nights with the insurance people it was crazy!
I would do it a room at a time before anything happens and keep it somewhere safe( and nonflammable) that way you donโt have to figure it out while dealing with something like this and also because you can write down the brands and all that
In the UK, house insurance doesn't normally include extremely valuable items unless you specifically include them. For example, I had to tell the insurers about my wife's engagement ring and what it's worth.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 02:56:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the advice
bertcox ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 05:33:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We lost our house 3 years ago. Treat it like you lost a loved one, with that same amount of care and attention to your family. Its stressful as hell. Do check over your paperwork very carefully, and ask lots of questions.
Considering at least my dad wants to be cremated and spread through the woods, I'm not sure I want to treat it like losing that loved one...
bertcox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My house was in the country, with no fire hydrants. The firemen stopped fighting once it was going to be a loss, they then asked if we wanted them to dump all their remaining water or let it burn, as the more that burned the less you have to haul away. So the firemen kind of helped cremate my house that was then spread across a nice dump.
This advice is spot on, I imagine you're overwhelmed right now but definitely save it for later.
I lost my house in a fire last year and am almost (fingers crossed) done dealing with the "contents" part of the insurance claim.
Don't rush yourself, this is a long and tiresome process. You're going to want to quit because listing every damn thing in your house is tiresome, but don't.
Pictures are a great help for jogging your memory when the time comes.
Glad you got out safe, sorry this happened to you. If you have any questions or anything feel free to PM me.
That's exactly what I did when I read the original comment. I walked around my home photographing everything, and I took pictures of the most valuable things (electronics, mostly) and their original boxes and serial numbers. Then I saved videos and pictures to the cloud.
I live in a 4-story wooden building that's 100+ years old. My neighbors are old and use gas stoves. I hope nothing ever happens, but if it does, I hope we're safe at work, because I can totally see this building burning instantly. No fire-resistant walls or ceilings here.
87jj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:31:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just make a video of you slowly walking around your house recording everything, and then save it to the cloud.
How much time do people have to compile and submit such a list after a catastrophic event like this? If it comes in too quickly (like if youโre type A and actually have it ready to roll), does that trigger any suspicion? Like the person who just happened to have all his important documents in the glove compartment of his car.
[deleted] ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 03:48:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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notLOL ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 05:28:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I left my wife and her secret boyfriend in the house by accident. How much for the clothes on their bodies?
"Queue" means a line of people waiting for something, or the act of standing in such a line.
"Cue" means "now is the time for X to happen or for this person to say this thing", and it's a theater term. That's where we get the expression "as if on cue" ("We started talking about Thor and, as if on cue, a lightning strokestruck the telephone pole"). It means "the timing was so perfect, it felt like a theater director had told them to do that just then".
Erantius ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:41:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm dealing with the aftermath of a bad kitchen fire right now, and we've got two years to settle everything. This is good, since it's been seven months, we're still at least two months from moving back into the house and getting our cleaned items back, and we still haven't managed to secure a list of the items that were disposed of by the asbestos abatement crew. Other than what we saw destroyed, what we took with us, and what was in the basement, how much of our stuff is left is anyone's guess. Smoke damage and asbestos contamination are a bitch.
As long as it's part of your policy they should have to. I believe people high risk areas have to pay more. My dad pays more than the people across the street because he has a creak in the backyard that (doesn't) has the ability to flood
Yes, but only if you have the right coverage for it. If you don't have flood insurance and the storm doesn't add a hole to your home then it's not covered, but if you have flood plus home owners or renters in Florida from a legitimate insurance Co, then you're covered entirely.
1-1-78, 2am, I found myself standing naked in 8 inches of snow in my parents back yard holding my brother's stereo amp. Everyone was ok. I don't know how their claims eventually worked out. I took it as a sign it was time to get my own place.
Today, fire safe in the basement. In addition to paper records, there are scans of receipts and pictures of virtually everything of value I've bought or acquired since on a hard drive in that safe. A less extensive set of documents is on a thumb drive in my son's fire safe.
While they should do that, they should also keep the drives safe. They will last a long time in case the cloud corrupts or the password is lost. A digital AND physical backup.
Fire safes are designed to withstand certain temperatures for only a specific amount of time. Some may only be rated for a half an hour. If the fire started in the basement (say, the furnace), it is possible your fire safe and the contents will be destroyed. I suggest looking into a safety deposit box as a way to safeguard anything of high value (if you don't trust cloud storage).
Heat rises. Survived a first hand look at a basement fire. Current house is 400m from a fire station. Short of nuclear war, my fire safe and contents will survive (water tight as well).
A house across the street from a fire station can burn down completely. There are many components that will impact a house fire, and many components that will dictate how long your safe will actually last. The only true way to guarantee safety of [digital] assets is backup offsite. There's a reason that is a critical step in every security/disaster recovery plan in existence.
You had to be there. 2am new years day. Asleep, more than a little buzzed. Younger brother tore the door off my room in the basement and announced "Time to leave... take this" Handed me the amp. Flames licking at my heels on the way up and out. It took a few seconds standing in the snow to realize what was happening. Fortunately, clothes in my unlocked van in the driveway.
Not criticizing. Thatโs the kind of thing Iโd likely do. Iโve never been in that situation so I imagine Iโd grab the first thing I saw that I valued, think about taking the second, then come to my senses and run.
Donโt count on the fire safe working all that well. Some relatives had one when they lost their house in one of the California fires, and all the papers inside were destroyed. Some gold coins/jewelry survived inside though.
mhswift ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:34:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Another thing that I thought that guy said, but I don't see it: When you are making lists, including links to replacement items because that is part of the approver's job and they get a bonus for doing the lists fast - so if you do it for them, you have a high chance of getting approved because they get a bonus for doing it fast.
I never would have thought of this kind of thing, this is really good information. Is it the same process for all insurance companies? What about in different countries outside of the USA?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
In the uk itโs very similar on the consumers end of them finding like for like only if you give them details. Friend had a claim that involved a mulberry hand bag for example and they had a photo of it but they no longer made one at the price point. Insurance paid out on an as close to replacement that was ยฃ1000+ more expensive.
Iโm glad u/dumbledoor saved this but everyone should really be giving gold and the other coins to u/0102030405 who actually wrote the post. Are you people even paying attention?
Actually it was /u/1020304050 (confusing, I know, with me the zeroes start first). So the person above credited me, but should have credited the person with my mirror username. I don't want any fame or gold or to have my inbox blown up with mentions haha.
Scrolling down to see it someone had posted this yet!
Blue2501 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:39:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How does it work with stuff that depreciates relatively quickly? For example, my PC. It's homebuilt, and I'd assume I should list every component. But the processor in it is an i7-2700K, which launched in Q4'11 at $350ish and the only way to replace it now is to buy a used one at $130-ish on ebay or elsewhere. Should something like that be covered at its MSRP ($350), cost for an equivalent-performance modern part (several new parts you could pick between $150 and $250, depending on how you measure), cost for the equivalent part in Intel's lineup (aka the best 'consumer' i7, which would presently be the i7-9700K at $400), or something else? There's just so many ways you could go with that, and that's not even getting into equivalent parts from AMD. And that's only one component out of more than a dozen if I itemize it out.
From what I gather, they only have to provide you with the cash value of a currently available equivalent.
In Other words, if you documented that you have an i7-2700k 3.5ghz quad core processor... they might give you enough money for the cheapest possible current equivalent. I.e. somewhere in the neighborhood of $200 for a new quad core i5 @ 3.5ghz.
They won't actually buy the item. they're only obligated to provide enough money to purchase a new functionally equivalent item (or so it seems to me).
mark every specific part. in this case you would want 'replacement cost' insurance which would be the cash to replace the item, not the current depreciated price of the item.
many policies offer this but it is not the standard, you might have to opt for it and pay a higher premium. it is almost ALWAYS the way to go for computers if you are building them yourself. i have a 10 year old i7 which is a beast and it cost me $4000. im fairly sure to replace it would be $4000 even today. so i would get to build whatever i want since on my policy i have replacement cost for electronics.
same goes for my video games. i have original games nintendo - present. some of the JRPGs on psx sell for $200-$300 a piece. i dont want a $5 voucher for a download. i dont want the 'greatest hits' version' i want it replaced. so i have that coverage on all my electronic type of stuff.
you dont want cash value coverage which is cheaper. you want it replaced and functioning just as before. since its a custom build and they cant just buy one they will prolly fork over the full original cost or close to it.
Also do this professionally and 70% of what this person says is accurate.
Not really sure what side of the insurance business this commenter was/is on, but it doesnโt really make sense. Unless it was a direct writer, if he/she was working at an insurance company, with this mindset, Iโm not sure what their role would be. Maybe Loss Control services? It sounds like he/she is/was a claims adjuster... the same person the commenter vilified...?
Regardless, definitely inventory everything you have thatโs of reasonable value. Good fucking luck pegging the insurance company for every tiny value - they will get annoyed and shit WILL happen. Write $5 soaps down and it will cost you in mental anguish and potentially with your claim payout - guaranteed.
I would recommend keeping an up to date inventory that is updated roughly 4 times a year or when big purchases are made.
The real remedy is working with a broker/agent you trust who manages your risk adequately while keeping information current. If you have the right broker/agent along with the right policy, youโll be fine.
Tl;dr Also in the insurance space. Slightly confused with the comment. Inventory shit over ~$50 depending on what policy you have and what shit you have. Have people you trust. Duh.
Edit - Really surprised how many people werenโt aware of maintaining personal inventories for their insured property. If anyone has questions, feel free to reach out and slide in the DMs. Would love to help anyone I can with this!
Hi everyone! I didn't originally write this, thanks for posting it but I should try to find the original person! Sorry if I misrepresented that way back when.
Edit: I thought I copied the old post for someone else, but it turns out our usernames are just similar. Please reach out and credit /u/1020304050 not me thanks!
He's a much cooler person (and likely older with more life experience) than I am. So he deserves the gold.
Also happy cake day!
Javad0g ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the clarification, I reached out to him to thank him for that original post. It made a huge difference in our own personal lives during the Santa Rosa northern California fires.
Thanks! I was SO confused and didn't know if maybe I copied this one (or commented on it or something) from way back when, because I know I didn't write it. It's just a mirror username issue, makes sense.
fadedabc ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:21:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
sraperez ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:13:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for forwarding this post. My girlfriends house caught on fire a few months ago and we used this copypasta to deal with her insurance company. Really came in handy as we had no idea how to go about properly itemizing everything she lost.
Now, thanks to you, OP will also have the same invaluable information : )
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Question, how do they deal with things that are unique 1 off things, but have a MSRP, liek some collectables. Would they just give the MSRP value of the item or the aftermarket value.
If what the post says is true, though, isn't it better to not have serial numbers and reciepts?
I mean, I just bought a 4k tv on sale for $230, but it ordinarily retails at $450. If I had the receipt, it sounds like I would only get $230 regardless of the retail price. If I have the serial number, and not the receipt, they might give me the exact value of this now outdated tv which could be say.. $200. Which isn't going to be enough to get a new equivalent replacement.
Like, I'm not interested in massively screwing them out of money, but after a fire I'm needing / wanting / hoping for equivalent replacement. Im not trying to get a new 20k super tv twice the size of my current one. I just need a replacement 40 (?) Inch 4k. After all, that's what I thought I was paying my insurance company for.
After my house was destroyed by a rampaging roommate. (We were homeless for 5 weeks because it was so trashed) it took months to get the insurance to pay and they fucked me hard. Do what this guy says. Be meticulous. I found out when I took my ruined/shattered makeup to the Lancรดme counter at Dillardโs that I had $3000 worth of make up. That made up for a lot of stuff they just blew off. Plus we had to kennel our 8 pets At their $15 a day figure, but my folks sheltered them so I was happy to present them with that fat check (4 months later).
Also you want to check BEFORE anything happens to see if you stuff is insured for Actual Cash Value or Replacement Cash Value. ACV is going to give you what that 5 year old TV is worth today, not what it will cost to get a new one. RCV is going to get you money to buy a new TV and donโt get me started on depreciation.
Tkade14 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:00:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
There's an important step missing here... Before there is a fire or a claim... You need to make sure your insurance has adequate coverage. It may only cost 100$/year to move your personal property coverage from 70k to 120k. Which can make a huge difference come claim time.
Not all heroโs wear capes.
This guy just wears a 1x fleece cape w/ wool from Blessed Nordic Sheep, but also from Nordstrom, engraved silk hood w/ built in leather cowl, led shoulder buckles with incremental flash oscillators, and limited edition seamless polyester weed-bag holster.
from what I understand, he had a piece of hardware with an obsolete feature that wasn't present on anything that was being manufactured at the time except for some high end industry-level machine as a catch-all. The insurance company was required to provide a new replacement with all of the listed features of the damaged item, so they had no option but to shell out 65k for the one thing on the market that had that specific feature. I might have misinterpreted though
LyrEcho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:48:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
GOod god man Ihope i never have to use this post. But damn it if I don't save this my place is burning down tomorrow.
Darkid94 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:21:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre the honest Saul Goodman Iโve always needed.
Actually, now that I think about it he voiced a insurance agent named Chase on Bobโs Burrgers.
Also crooked character.
But thatโs not you, you handsome son of a motherlover.
Thank you for being professional yet straight forward.
As someone who has no idea how the insurance world really works and didnโt feel like reading a bunch of Mumbo jumbo and getting finessed by insurance.
Just wanted to chime in and say thank you for this. I'm closing on a house in a few weeks and I plan to start itemizing as I move in and keep a running list as I acquire unnecessary things in my life.
If you said "toaster- $200" , we'd kick it back and say NEED MORE INFO, because that's a ridiculous price for a toaster (with no other information given.)
cuisinart brick oven master race reporting in. once you try it you wont use any other toaster oven.
i am a forensic accountant too which seems like what you do but a bit different. i do business losses not personal. occasional fires and hurricanes but mostly business losses and interruption.
for people who have not had a fire yet i got some more protips. this write up was very good and i enjoyed seeing that side of the business. i figured id share some ways to be proactive.
i keep a spreadsheet. it has all furniture, home items, and electronics i have purchased in it and the date of purchase, store used, and price. sometimes i mark how i paid too. i dont bother with all receipts, but i will mark down things that are customized. my credit card has a bulk of the purchases and very rarely will i take a picture of a receipt. i do save them tho but they would burn up if it was a huge fire. on my electronics i will mark hard drive size, or for a computer i will list full specs and the price i paid for each part. this also helps me decide how much coverage i need.
i keep pictures and videos for other items. for my video games (way to many) and books (also way to many) i just take a photo every few months so you can clearly see the names and types. i like deluxe editions and i will get the hardcover over paperback so i make sure that shows. i also do pictures of artwork and memorabilia and have those prices memorized because i dont have a ton of it. if you are buying a lot of that type of stuff plus paying for framing etc i would spreadsheet it.
for clothing i just do short videos of my wardrobe every few months. i never buy anything too expensive but i have my clothes separated in the closet work/fancycasual/tshirts so its easy to see roughly how many nice/mediocre/cheap stuff i have. sneakers/ties too that stuff adds up. it also has my linens. if you spend thousands of dollars on that stuff you should want to replace it all so document it.
im in a condo so i have no tips on home improvement type of stuff. but again i would think heavy documentation and spreadsheets are the way to go. with good tables you can even put the photos of the receipts in there and link them to the main spreadsheet. even have a photo of the item (say fancy wood cabinets) for proof.
of course the most important thing is to have that folder auto save to cloud or just do it on google docs.
read and understand your policy. know if your getting replacements or the cost or what and how much coverage you have. once you understand how policies work its easy to skim through them each time you need a new one.
homad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:55:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Can you speak to digital losses at all]? photos/movies/[whole season of the series MTV's "The head" or every episode of Nickelodeons' Rocko's Modern Life or The Adventures of Pete and Pete "collectible content" etc.?
Dude I have to give you credit. That was a solid write up and a cool thing to do.
Javad0g ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:48:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I saved this exact same thread comment back when he made it as well. And I have shared it multiple times especially being out here in California where we personally have had many friends and family in the last couple years lose everything.
That post has made a huge difference in some of my own family and friends lives and I am eternally grateful he took the time to write it.
I really need to reach out to him personally and thank him.
Thanks so much for this info. Not only is it great for OP but for everyone to know! Iโm glad I have renters insurance for this kind of thing and would never think of not having coverage for my home. Itโs to valuable and loosing it all is so deveststing.
I've saved few comments here and there over the years and this is one I always remember. I'm glad I could help.
shea241 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:59:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I have a workshop with electronic components, modules, super specialized tools, and so on. Literally thousands of items in one room, from $0.10 to $1500.
Have you ever seen a claim with that kind of ... specifity? Should I just take pictures of everything?
Also how does it work with things like prototypes, factory test runs, things that were never on the market but were certainly valuable ... but not sentential. Are they just set to $0 or do you try to find the nearest functionality item on the market?
I'm currently at this stage in dealing with a kitchen fire that's had me out of my house for the last seven months. This is all really good to know right about now. Thanks!
Been there, gone through this. Crazy ex of the guy my mom was dating torched our house when I was in high school. Was structurally ok, but smoke damage gutted the inside and destroyed all the stuff.
The insurance company gave us sheets to list all our belongings. Specifically, they gave us like 5 sheets, each with lines for maybe 15 items. Lol to that. We put everything on a spreadsheet, down to the tubes of chapstick.
heiny002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget all the damage from smoke (odors too). You can get new carpets and drapes and clothing and towels if simple dry cleaning won't suffice as fabrics hold onto the smells.
What always perplexed me is what happens with collectible items? Like if someone had one of the first edition rare Charizard Pokemon cards, would the insurance company be able to pay for a replacement?
Some insurance companies require you to either have a separate policy rider for these sorts of things or you have to have them well documented and shown on file with them.
If like 90% of whatโs in your house was ordered from amazon would your buying history and a quick walkthrough video of your home count as a legitimate list?
Well I live in a loft and yeah...easily 90% was bought online. Even a lot of my clothes (though usually not from amazon). And my desk and chairs and things are from amazon. All my video games and systems, and stereos, appliances, yeah, they have a shit ton of stuff on there Iโm really thinking at least 90%. Not my couch or carpet or bed or mattress but mostly everything else
yea im in the same sort of business as this poster so i think my advice is solid.
i would say to be safe take some photos. if you make a list now you can just add on to it as you grow into bigger living spaces and more items.
its better safe than sorry, and you dont want to be questioned on actually owning it or not. if you have the photos/list you can use the receipts as proof of price etc. just bite the bullet and take a few hours one weekend to mark it up. especially if you like your stuff.
yea its not a big deal if you are young... but if you get in the habit now it will be super easy to maintain later.
I actually had my house catch on fire and my great uncle owns an insurance company. He actually stated these exact points but if you can hire a reputable third party to do a through inventory they usually take 10% off the top of the total claim or so therefore they will try to get the maximum value. Took a lot of stress off my parents especially because we had to replace a bunch of important documents and we lost our animals in the fire.
So question, because Iโm young and know nothing about insurance: is this reimbursement on top of the value of your house? Like if my house was valued at 300K and then I claim everything in the house, that is is provided as well?
valiamo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on the insurance you purchase, you should have a value to replace the physical dwelling (does not include the property value), and then a value to replace the contents of your house.
Mine, I think, is $500 K total - $360K for my house and around $90K for possessions, $40K for additional living expenses, $10K for outside structures.
There is a big difference between "replacement value and insured value"
Wait- I'm confused. You could claim all these things, sure... but doesn't it depend on the amount of coverage you pay for? i.e. to totally rebuild your covered up to XX amount. To replace its content you are covered XX amount. So you could list up to that amount, but after that you are SOL.
Any info is appreciated, I just thought that's how it worked??
Seconding this as someone who had an insurance claim due to storm damage. It helped I moved less than a year before and did an overly itemized list of everything that went into each box. Explicitly laying out most items you have is a treasure trove when it comes to replacement. Being detailed is a smart thing to do!
To tackle this, set up a GDoc spreadsheet and go room by room in your house. You can combine this with decluttering/spring cleaning. Don't try to tackle the project in an entire weekend, but doing it as you tidy up and can commit a solid one to two hour block is key.
You'll also be surprised how much stuff you own afterward. Readjust your insurance based on value accordingly. This is especially true if you've not adjusted your house insurance/renter's insurance in a while and lived at your home for more than two years or had a major life change (like a spouse/partner joining you, new kid, etc.).
Wow thanks. What would you do if most of your furniture is hand made. Like my coffee table for example, I spent 70 hours at least making it out of scraps. Also if you need a few extra bucks, just say you had a few Pendleton wool shirts.
mscogna4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Props to you for offering help but talk about short and concise.
I've got a question for you, do email receipts count when it comes to getting the value of an item? Like say if I have the exact items bought for a computer, could I provide pictures of those invoices to prove I actually payed that much?
FWIW-- a few years ago we had flooding and had an insurance claim. We had a wall's worth of Ikea bookcases that were damaged. it was easy enough to document their replacement cost. But there was the building of the things.
When we had acquired them the first time, my spouse was on furlough and was happy enough to spend three days putting them all together, but now we were both working, full time. Our adjuster added some money that would cover hiring some cheap labor to put them together.
Interesting how you call the โfire truck chasersโ evil, but go on to say how your company tries itโs hardest to fuck over people who have just lost everything and had insurance, meaning you legitimately owe them the proper value.
Iโve seen this exact advice play out. Somebody I know went from having a shithole TV to a curved 70inch display without dropping a dime, because there was a mini-fire that ruined his basement.
Thatโs just one item, itโs crazy how much stuff he got upgraded because of it.
If I had the money, Iโd give you Gold for this. Thank you for taking the time to write out this advice!
namedan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is like Mr. Incredible not saying how to claim insurance. Amazing.
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Angie_MJ ยท 1230 points ยท Posted at 00:35:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It is. They listen to the police scanners and a bunch of these so called insurance adjusters just show up passing out cards and trying to insert themselves on the scene. Itโs really unsettling. Also listening, are people who work in the business of boarding homes, demolition, and clean up. Theyโll have you agreeing to jobs and contracts while youโre still emotionally reeling from your loss.
I've seen board ups charge o&p, I've seen public adjusters forge insureds signatures to say they're representing them, I've talked to people who claim to be the fire marshal...some people are jackals. Insurance companies aren't just out to screw you over. They're there to protect you as well. Source: former property claims adjuster.
Talk to the insurance company directly. Sometimes shady contractors will show up and say the insurance sent them. They'll get you to sign stuff or will start working. Anytime someone claims to be from the insurance company, call and verify.
For getting a contractor, look locally. They should be licensed and insured. They should be willing to show you both. I'd recommend getting three quotes to see the range. Make sure the quotes are itemized. Square feet, line by line breakdowns, labor costs. So many of my insureds would turn in a piece of paper that said "repair roof, $8600" and would be mad that I needed more info.
The best analogy I can say is if you go to a grocery store, buy a cart of various groceries, but they don't give you a receipt, they just give you a post it that says $500. Would you pay that? No. So don't let a contractor do the equivalent when they're telling you what repairs will cost. They came up with that number from somewhere, they should be able to prove it.
This is just big red flag stuff. Theres a hundred other ways my insureds have gotten taken advantage of that I've seen. If you have a specific question, I can try to answer it.
Cornpwns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Primarily by being the first to show up and having their dudes do the work(and get paid for it). Instead of allowing you to find a reliable contractor. Some more shady ones will steal your shit and bounce or ask for down payments and never show up.
The Santa Rosa fires were near where I live and people had to stand with guns to keep the scumbags at bay. I read that they do everything from identity theft to looking through the rubble for jewelry and bullion. The worst one was this really cute tiny Spanish style home across from the clover stornetta dairy processor had a handwritten sign saying โplease donโt go through this, whatever is here is all my parents have left.โ
TonyHK47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They make money by taking you on as a client and fluffing up everything you own to increase the insurance pay out, they then take a cut. Typically you will end up better off, but it will take a lot longer to get the claim sorted
Mainly it's to get you to accept a contract for "clearing debris" or "demolition". That is at an exorbitant rate that "Don't worry the insurance company will pay it"
Or it's I am from Cyaz consulting for a small fee I can be a 3rd party to insure you get the most out of your insurance claim you can never trust them ya know.! At Cyaz we keep overhead low and don't want to pass on payment processing fees on to you. So we accept cash only as payment.
Thank you for your payment CYAZ BITCHES! HAHAHAHAhahahaha...
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PM_GPOY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The second was when he was laughing all the way up the stairs.
Usually the insurance people who show up are public adjusters - they take a percentage of the payout by guiding people through how to get as much money as possible from the victims actual insurance company, the scam is theres no real need for them so ultimately they just take part of the payout.
When we had a small house fire, two restoration vultures showed up and started peddling their services to us as there was still smoke pouring out of our house.
Broduski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:58:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Also listening, are people who work in the business of boarding homes, demolition, and clean up. Theyโll have you agreeing to jobs and contracts while youโre still emotionally reeling from your loss.
I work in this business. To be fair, the work has to get done at some point, and the faster you sign a contract the faster it goes. And there's really nothing to take advantage of, since we really wont do work that insurance doesn't approve and pay for anyways.
I work for an insurance co and let me tell you they can absolutely save your life. I know no one likes us but as you said if thereโs a fire and you need your house rebuilt, a place to stay and need to buy new stuff most of it gets covered with the right policy
I'm so sorry you don't understand. This can be so confusing and I'm glad I'm here to help. Name's blundercrab, I'm a Professional Explainer on Reddit. I can use my years of experience to guide you through the process of this scam. Just sign this comment saying you'll give me an updoot and several Reddit currencies for my work and you'll never hear from me again cause that's a fake phone number and this is my alt account.
Okay can you please explain this scam to me now??? The public adjusters have my wife and kids, and they said that if I don't tell them about the scam, they'll kill my family. Please sir I'm so thankful to have found you, can you help me out???
skinnah ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:28:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well first thing to understand is... hey what's that over there?! ๐๐จ
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u-no-u ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:24:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They're trying to get you to pay more for the work while you're still vulnerable. There's people that can help you get more money from your insurance claim as well and they charge you money for that service.
crd3635 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing I can think of is people trying to loot your shit under the guise of being an insurance adjuster
Yup, and then they sue your grandmother because she left a pot on the stove but technically sheโs not a resident so she isnโt covered. So now your grandmother has to sell all her belongings to pay back your insurance company and is destitute. Thank god for insurance!
EZ-PEAS ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:55:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The important factor isn't whether your grandmother is a resident or not, its whether she was negligent. If the homeowner and policy holder is negligent in burning down their house then most insurance policies aren't going to cover that either.
Insurance policies aren't a "get out of responsibility free" card. Most only cover accidental and unforeseeable damage. If someone causes damage that could have been foreseen, regardless of who that is, then they will probably be held responsible for the damage. That sucks when it's your family members, but that's how the world works.
Yea thatโs not how it happens. Itโs not about people in those situations, itโs the even itself. If thereโs a fire regardless of fault (unless arson of course) itโs gonna be covered
The 2 companyโs Iโve worked for have never done anything like that. Whatever company that did this is clearly a bottom feeding piece of shit co. Sorry this happened to you or whoever you know but fuck the co that did it
Nobody minds you guys, itโs the upset that gets buggy. I get life insurance through work. I get random calls from my agent trying to get me to sign up for million dollar life insurance, at โonly $200 a month.โ
Like yeah I appreciate the offer but I donโt have a million dollars worth of stuff and $200 a month is quite a bit extra right now. However Iโm happy to pay for insurance because when I needed it it was worth the pay.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:53:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you and no worries I'm in a good neighborhood
MCG_1017 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A good neighborhood doesnโt matter. The grifters will fund you.
After his house was gutted by fire, my dad's separate and un-burnt garage was totally ransacked. They also went through the house looking for any jewelry to sell for gold/silver weight.
Living through this right now. Insurance is paying for everything. House should be finished with restore in September.
notLOL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not on the day of the fire I suppose
MCG_1017 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it is a thing. The house next door to me burned, and we have to watch that place all the time because all sorts of weird people show up.
s0laris0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:12 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
the company we hired to clean our house after a fire almost ten years ago was a scam too. they were a well known company, so who could have known the "cleaners" were absolute shit human beings? they charged us for cleaning the most mundane things, very clearly didn't actually clean the soot off the walls, they stole thousands of dollars worth of toys and other items and the lawsuit against them never went anywhere. absolutely frustrating people.
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MuadD1b ยท 1249 points ยท Posted at 02:12:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No one hurt though? Youโre familyโs life is going to be real stressful and shitty for awhile but as long as everyone is alright thatโs what matters.
Could have happened while you were all in your beds.
If you have any photos from inside the house backed up on the cloud start going through them, save them in a file for the insurance, and start cataloguing all your belongings. Youโre family has paid for insurance, do your best to get every god damned cent from them.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 766 points ยท Posted at 02:50:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody got hurt thank god but half of house trashed
I'm glad no one was hurt. I hope you didn't suffer a total loss for contents of the house. Use any resource available to you and accept help as you can, this is what those resources are there for.
I followed this post when I had to make my own claims. A+, could not have been more satisfied.
Mr_TheKid ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 02:59:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And rest of house very smelly forever.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 223 points ยท Posted at 03:05:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Idk yet may have to tear it down due to smoke and water damage
[deleted] ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 03:42:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I used to work for a Fire and Flood Restoration company. All of our clients were insurance jobs with checks cut from the insurance company.
We would go in and remove all salvageable personal items including clothing and furniture. Everything was meticulously cleaned and stuck in a ozone room for several days to get rid of the smoke smell.
All of the carpet was tore out and any walls with water damage the drywall was removed. Everything was sprayed with microban (to kill mold) and contractors renovated the house.
All of the personal items that were unsalvageable were listed by us. If there's anything that you own that you really want to try to salvage the insurance company can pay a restoration service to remove the smoke smell and clean up the soot.
If you guys need any other assistance Reach Out to* Red Cross they will hook you up with clothing vouchers, grocery store vouchers and even a couple weeks in a hotel.
Make sure when you list items for the insurance company that were in the house and are damaged on your official forms... that you write the price it would cost to replace them, not what you actually paid for them.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 03:44:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This, so much this.
A good restoration company is going to be on your side, especially when it comes to dealing with your insurance. That's how they get paid, after all.
I can't tell you how many times I got to a job and spent the entire first day dealing with a hostile homeowner.
Work with them and they will do everything they can to make things as painless as possible.
Uxoguy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:44:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You'll be surprised what a good restoration company can salvage. Keep your head up
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah
Uxoguy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:54:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For real, I was a firefighter and also a remediation project manager. We saved a LOT of homes that owners thought would be torn down. As long as the masonry isn't cracked and spauled up the framework can be cleaned and deoderized, drywall can be cleaned and repainted, even belongings can be restored.
I'm sorry this happened to you but please try to keep a positive attitude, your family will only benefit.
If you guys need insurance help or especially remediation help, please contact me anytime. I can look over adjusters quotes and remediation quotes, I know all the necessary billing codes and I'm fire restoration certified.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or maybe they could have blown on it really hard. I mean, blacksmiths used bellows to put out the coals at the end of the day. Why not just use air compressors instead of water? We could even use the same hoses
Yeah, that little /s is nearly invisible on mobile. But a lot of people probably don't consider the fact that the water it takes to put out a massive fire can do almost as much damage as the fire itself.
True. We had a fire on our roof and parts of the 2nd floor walls, but the firemen still had to douse the whole house. When we went inside after the fire, it looked like it was raining indoors from the flood upstairs :/
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ywBBxNqW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hate that that's a thing. I hope we find a more innovative way to put out fires in the future. Successfully quelling a house fire only to demolish it later due to water damage seems like such a Pyrrhic victory.
We had the exact same thing happen last year. A company called servicemaster oxidized a lot of personal belongings and we got them back, hopefully thatโs the same for you. As in furniture, books, clothes, etc. They had to take our house down to the studs and it was a long year, but if you have good insurance youโll be ok. Sorry this happened to you.
peeves91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Tip, the water damage will be there forever. You will never get rid of it. It will always be there. Get a fresh start.
Haha my dude my house recently went on fire very similar to how yours looks. Your WHOLE house is going to be gutted and rebuilt. Absolutely nothing will be left of the original.
This is an important point! Go through any and every picture you can find and document your belongings. But when you document your belongings don't just say "toaster" because you will get some $10 goodwill price of shit toaster. Be a bit more specific. Especially on your expensive items.
And if you do most of the insurance companies work and xatelogue nearly everything they are more likely to approve your write offs due to the amount of time you saved them from having to deal with it.
This exact thing happened in my buddies barn. He had a huge barn that he stored EVERYTHING in. From his winter tires to his ice fishing rods. Lucky for him he had parties in his backyard that also involved his barn so he had tons of recent photos of everything. He spent a few weeks going through every photo and pulling all his Amazon orders/receipts and documented everything. He ended up making out very well because they just approved nearly everything he catelogued
It's shitty but well worth it.
Tagging /u/tardmcgee so you see this incase it's helpful. Sorry about the shitty situation tho
mreid74 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 03:03:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This! List EVERYTHING you can think of that you owned, even if you didn't care about it. All of the things you hated or didn't care about turns into $ and you can turn $ into things that you do care about. Take care and I hope your situation gets much better very soon. We turned out much better after our fire, but I definitely would NOT do it again.
250 xbox one and 360 games/ps3 at full price an xbox one a ps3 2xbox 360s 4 controllers per console,a nintendo switch, an original in box sony playstation my nintendo gamecube with 45 games, nintendo wii with 14 games, an partial collection of around 115 skylanders figures at 14.99 a piece, random anime figurines, posters 200 dollar bed 150 dollar memory foam matress a cheapo 100 dollar futon, 500 bucks worth of books
a 1200 dollar gaming computer fuck 150ish games on that alone
3 lcd tvs of varying sizes from 36" to 64"
50 dollar furlined hoodie, my desk ive had since i was 6 a black snap together shelf, my cabinet with all my socks and stuff in it. 200-300 bucks worth of clothes (i mean i dont really need many clothes but if your replacing ALL of my clothes i lost and not the outfits i wore kay) nice silk sheets (maroon) 2 fur blankets (ones fake fur ones supposed to real but it definetly feels fake af)
and thats just in my room! my money when i was working went exclusively to food and gaming in my offtime.
mreid74 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
List it all and don't amazon list it. Put the recent retail values of all the stuff you lost. If you have half a decent insurance company, the replacements are not what you paid, but what it would cost you to replace the same exact things. Cite your sources just like writing a college paper.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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mreid74 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:18:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We got a smaller, cozier home and furnishings. I wouldn't ever go through the process of being homeless, having to gather whatever was salvageable, having a near death experience, redoing everything, experiencing crazy stress, and my kitty died. You happy now? Conspiracy theorist. Screw you right now for making me remember that. I don't know why I replied.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:05:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Best bet is to look for an online listing of something similar but a bit pricier. Insurance won't give you 100% of the list price. Had to do this when my converted garage room flooded a few years back.
If I wasnโt so lazy, and actually had that many valuable things to worry about... this day and age, I would just take pictures along with the list...lots and lots of pictures. Not only documents somewhat the make and model, but added benefit of being documentation it was in the House.
Fuck, you can't imagine how much this scenario worries me. I always worry about coming home to my house burned down and learning that my cats died a painful and frightening death.
Edit: Apparently euphemistic agreement is unacceptable.
jimlee13 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:49:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Im really confused why you got downvoted so quickly. Thanks reddit
Hope everyone was safe though, you guys gotta stay positive. Always bring one postive to every negative.
1jl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:53:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit loves a good stoning
jimlee13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
As horrible as this situation was, the point of insurance is to indemnify the OP for the damages they incurred. The notion that people should suck every cent out of insurance is the exact reason people end up complaining about high prices of insurance in the first place. That mentality is part of the problem.
The definition of indemnification is to make one whole, the term is not associated with either one exclusively. Whether it is liability or property as in this case, insurance served to indemnify.
I don't think anyone suggested they exaggerate their loss. Pictures, receipts, and specific brand/models of items lost help to recoup exactly what was lost, not make a profit.
I donโt see anyone advocating doing anything like that. You absolutely should hold the insurance company accountable to replace anything that was damaged or destroyed with something as similar to the original item as possible, and having documentation of what those items were helps do that.
The insurance company isnโt your friend. Theyโll happily take your premiums year after year but will try to lowball replacement items if you arenโt specific. If you lost an 82โ Samsung TV you should get money to replace it with an 82โ Samsung TV, not a 55โ Vizio.
Building contractor who is currently repairing his own house after a fire here. This sucks. PM me if you'd like some friendly advice. Maybe I can help make it suck a bit less.
They might have some kind of program. I belong to a veterans non-profit organization, unfortunately we stick to helping veterans. I would've reached out to your local chapter.
I'm truly sorry about what you are going through.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:29:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When listing all the stuff you had to be replaced by insurance be incredibly specific. A toaster could be a $5 nothing from wal mart, but if it was a cuisinart compact cool touch toaster it would have been $50. They will give you the least they possibly can so you have to do the best you can. I'm sorry for you and all you lost, and all the things you can't replace.
I had a fire back in August 2017. Really sucked, especially since I was the one to discover it. You never fully recover from it but trust me, things will get better. Also I was 13 at the time sooo... not fun. I know how you probably feel! Best of luck to you!
15 actually and yeah eventually maybe. But itโs pretty rough and everyone is different!
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 03:37:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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sh0uri ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:50:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Seemed like an adult perspective to me. "You never fully recover" from a now-15 year old. Little dramatic. Him and his roommates will be setting their dorm on fire trying to make popcorn in 3 years.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:56:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
True it is too early, Iโve just also met former victims who felt the same way. Trauma is different for everyone so I could fully recover and so could OP!
RZYao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait you're like the same age as me hopefully my house doesn't burn as a curse or something
No neighbors? That thing would have been going for quite a while in that pic, and the fire department isn't even there yet.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:10:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's in the middle of winter and in work hours so it took a while for people to notice
aridax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. How did you and your family find out?
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:24:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We have a potion of our house as an office with a Fulltime employee, she heard the fire alarm and went to check and saw the house pitch black with smoke.
aridax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no! That's terrifying! But also it sounds like maybe that was good--was she the one to call the fire department?
When she was nine, my fiance lost 3 of her siblings in a tragic house fire. She was away when it happened, but her step father went into the kids room while they slept and lit their mattresses on fire and burned the house down. This was in Georgia 1999.
It was in the local news and was sentenced to life in prison, though he died in prison sometime after 2011. I cannot fully remember the outcome after the trial, but the state of Georgia revamped their efforts to protect children of parents with violent criminal histories. I believe it was the fourth or fifth brutal event like that for the state to change it's policy.
She says at least some good came out in the end knowing that other people can be safer after what happened to her family. We visited their grave sites last year, she hasn't visited in nearly 10 years. It was a very emotional day.
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๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wish upvotes could be cashed in for real money. Best of luck to you and your family.
el-smoko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dam bro that sucks, house I was renting a couple years ago completely got burnt down. Fucking nightmare. Hope you got insurance and all your shit didnโt burn. Good luck brotha
DrXenu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
good luck on the new house. If I am not mistaken everything should be written off to smoke damage or the fire itself if everything is insured properly. Frankly I am surprised the house wasn't a heap of ash when you got home and firefighters weren't there to help as the last house fire I saw quickly overtook the structure and burned everything so badly even neighboring houses were damaged due to the heat of the fire.
Emfx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We just went through an electrical fire three months ago, itโs a fucking headache but make sure you donโt let insurance push you around because they will try. Just be ready for a lot of nonsense and waiting around... ours was a small fire (one room) and we are just now moved back in after, like said above, 3 months. A total of maybe two weeks was actual contractors working, the rest was insurance trying to get out of paying for shit.
My parents lost their home that I grew up in two years ago, and last year we had a small fire at the house we were staying at that lead to a crazy amount of life changes. If you need someone to talk to about what its going to be like, both emotionally and practically, please reach out.
Kind of a weird question- was your cable working before the fire? I'm a cable dispatcher and sometimes the electric wiring in the house go bad and start to use the cable wires as a ground. Definitely a sign of a big problem.
Josvys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely set up a GoFundMe. There's plenty of us on Reddit that would contribute. It's going to be a while until you get insurance money and some cash now will help. Hang in there.
The house up the road from me went up in flames at about 3 in the morning. I woke up because I heard glass smash.
The guy who lives in there is an old fella. He didnโt wake up. Myself and another neighbour kicked his door in to get him out, then did what we could with as many garden hoses as would reach till the firies got there.
Itโs like house fire PTSD now lol. I wish the very best for you. Hopefully nothing inside was too badly torched. Houses are replaceable though. Life isnโt. As long as youโre all alright
[deleted] ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 23:15:28 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The chicken barn down the road went up, and my dogs told me about it. They were barking weird, not in their usual way. It made me more comfortable to know they'll flip out if there is a fire, but I'm also scared there will be a fire when I'm away and they'll get killed.
Also leave as many doors open as possible so they got rooms to go to. If it's a two story though block off the dogs access to the 2nd floor whenever you are not home.
They also have smoke detectors that can connect to your wifi and send you an alert on your phone.
blythed ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:35:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I spent a few years as a fireman and I have tons of candles in my house. Iโd be MUCH more worried about space heaters, dryer lint, kitchen accidents, dusty furnaces, and cigarettes than a candle contained in a glass jar. Not to mention CO. Do you own any fire extinguishers?
I have a very sensitive nose. To the point that I think I annoy my partner by being in another room while they are cooking and loudly announcing that the bottom of the pot is sticking and burning before they have even noticed.
Story:
I have a OTG adapter to go from Android device -> HDMI cable in the back of the TV. It doesn't have any power cable because it draws straight from the connections. It stayed connected to the HDMI cable semi-permanently because that's what we'd use most of the time for media.
One day, out of the blue right before we're going to bed I get this whiff of that distinct cuprous smell, like if there was a smelter operating somewhere nearby but far enough away not to really notice it.
I hate the smell. It always screams electrical fire to me. Whenever I get that smell I start going through a mental inventory of anything with wires, anything electrical and I check them.
So, like a madman who is hunting for a mouse which exists only in their imagination, I start frantically waking sniffing around and pulling out cables and checking things to see if they are melting or burning on the inside. I'm just about convinced that my partner is thinking "This is it. I knew this day was coming. He's finally snapped."
I can't seem to find the source of the smell and everything seems fine but purely by chance my hand momentarily passes over the adapter and it feels too warm. I stop. It's a eureka moment for me. Something's not right there. I come back to the adapter and it seems fine. I touch it. It's hot. Way too hot. I turn it over, the underside of the plastic housing is starting to melt and deform. I unplug it immediately and pull off the damaged housing.
Inside, some small piece (a capacitor, I'm assuming, with my near-zero knowledge of electrical components) has burnt out and left charred marks on the board. It's hot. It must be 200 degrees, or at least that's how it felt - such a little piece which wasn't that "Ow, that's hot!" sort of hot but the sort of hot where your brain goes straight to "Ah, fuck that's burning me!!"
Obviously, I allowed it to cool outside before throwing it away the next morning.
...and that's the story of how I probably avoided a house fire out of pure luck because I stay up too late and I have a keen sense of smell. Check your dongles and other devices, not just your chargers, people!
Same situation here but with a lightbulb, one of those twisty ones. I called the fire dept out several times, trying to make sure the house wasn't burning down. I couldn't trace it, no matter what I did. One day it got bad enough that I called them again, and right as they showed up the overhead lamp caught fire.
Found out later it was a really bad outlet, but the chief was like "those bulbs are the worst, and I do not allow them in my house." Apparently they're one of the things to cause problems. Maybe I wouldn't have found the back socket if it hadn't, though.
I know people bag on companies for charging a lot for their OEM chargers, but you can rest assured you wonโt have those issues. And if you do and it comes back on the company, well, you will have to suffer temporarily for a very fat stack of cash.
Yes, just spend the extra money on an official power charger. Yes, for a phone that's like $30 instead of the cheapo $3 one from the gas station. The difference is that your house doesn't burn down and you don't die.
I know quite a bit about electronics and you couldn't buy wholesale the USB power regulator chips used in name brand chargers for the prices you see cheap chargers for on eBay
Good point. My dad had one over heat and caught on fire AFTER he unplugged it.
_procyon ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:13:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I smoke. Years ago I dumped my ashtray in the garbage and there was a cigarette still going. I then fell asleep. Woke up to a room full of smoke and a hole burned in the garbage can. Dumped a glass of water in the garbage and it was fine...
I live in an apartment. This could have been a bad situation. Learned my lesson from that...
Whenever I'm drinking I always use the tail end of a drink, since that way there's always some liquid and it's pretty much self contained in the bottle.
if youre smart thats not a problem. i once lit my back on fire (yes my back) by leaning over a tiny candle on a table while trying to hit on a girl. (i am not smart)
That girl was like "Damn you're hot boy. You're on fire! No really dumbass YOU ARE ON FIRE"
EZ-PEAS ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:00:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I once tried to repair a clothes dryer and ended up making sparks. The entire inside of the dryer was coated in a fine layer of lint that I didn't even notice to start. The whole bottom of the compartment immediately caught fire but because it was just lint I was able to smack it out with my hands.
But one stray spark when someone wasn't right there would have easily been enough to catch the inside on fire, and from there it would have been anything sitting on or near the dryer (and there's no way that anyone would leave dry clothes in/on a clothes dryer, right?), and from there it would have been the house.
Dryer lint is some of the most flammable shit out there. Back in my younger Boy Scout days, I loved it as a tinder material for starting camping fires. But I would always make sure that it was stored super safely.
I just bought a new (14 year old) house with an electric furnace. Apparently the inspector never turned it on, because a month later it got cold and would not turn on.
Called local AC man. He couldn't figure out why thermostat wasn't kicking furnace on, so he bypassed it and turned it on manually.
Que me sitting at computer, suddenly smell an awful smell. Red hot embers start to fall from the vent directly below the furnace (in attic). Smoke starts to fill house and all fire alarms start to go off. Wonder if man is ok in attic, but I rush outside with my bird for a momentary meltdown.
I was about to call 911, but I ran into the garage and up the ladder. The guy was freaking out too but turned the furnace off in time and said "wow, heater must have not ran for a few years, there was soooo much dust and debris on it. I should have checked first. It combusted." Oh. Ya think.
After a while of me pacing thru the house checking if things were on fire or not, AC man found PO had unplugged thermostat furnace wire for some.... reason. Inspector never turned it on obviously, even though it was stated as operational in the report. I'm just glad it didnt burn down the house.
The joys of homeownership.
iBryguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My parents use space heaters during the winter. Any tips/recommendations related to space heaters?
Space heaters need SPACE. They need to be far away from anything flammable. Youโd be surprised at what these things will start. Maybe suggest that they look into sealing around the windows with double sided tape and plastic. You can even warm the plastic with a hair dryer to get the wrinkles out. Itโs a cheap and easy winter fix. Look into insulating the attic space. Itโs not very expensive if you do it yourself unless itโs a huge area.
Pro tip for dealing with that stuff, rub some Vaseline on yourself and wear long sleeves. Shower in cold water after. That stuff can get ITCHY
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:04:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to a family down the street from us on Christmas day when I was growing up :( We lived in shitty townhouses so their stuff and their neighbours stuff was gone. Luckily all the people made it out okay.
Yes! I had a fire in the computer room in my house and got everyone out. For years after seeing car tail lights flash on a wall through the window would put me in full flight mode.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:19:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same, I hate house fires. It scares me to even look at pictures of them. I just hate to think of having it happen to my house since I have so many memories and important pictures in it of people I rarely talk to anymore.
When my dad was probably 7-8 years old, there was a fire in an old store, apparently it burnt in the middle of the night and the discovered the remains the next morning. Mind you this was way before even house phones were a thing, and they lived way out in the country.
Well anyway being the kids they were, they were looking through the remains and found the store owner who just so had happened to be sleeping there for the night. Yes she was dead.
Hey, I had a total burnout once. Beware of crime tonight. My shed was emptied of $15k worth of tools the night after the fire. Apparently itโs a common strategy especially in rural areas.
just focus on yourself and family! and when you can't think of anywhere to vent or ask for help you know reddit is here for you! I can see lots of helpful tips in all the comments already and I'm sure many are willing to donate supplies and necessities or point you to a place that can. You take care now
I had a shit retail job, my friend had a great job for home insurance. I applied at my friend's workplace and got the job. Through a few promotions, I get great money and get to work from home. Since I didn't have any skills beyond the jobs I've had, and school was too expensive, those became my only options.
That's brutal and emotionally taxing to the max. A few years ago, my wife accidentally set our apartment on fire while trying to deep fry chicken. A little of the oil must have run down the side of the pan.
Our infant daughter was making noise in another room. Moments after checking on the kid, my wife returned to the kitchen to find the pot in flames. Ultimately, the sprinklers did more damage than the fire. With the help of a neighbor, thankfully they had the fire out before water started spraying everywhere. Burning oil and water are a really bad mix.
They used five fire extinguishers. All were years out of date, and the first couple just fanned the flames.
The last one extinguished the fire right before the sprinklers went off. The fire was out, but the sprinklers ran for half an hour, and the apartment was six inches deep in water...on the second floor.
My wife used to call me at work several times a day. It gets tiring. When one of my employees held out the phone for me when I was about to clock out, I just told him to tell my wife I was on the way. He passed on the message. I saw his eyes grow wide.
"She says your apartment is on fire!"
I followed the fire trucks to my home screaming profanities at the complete idiots who couldn't figure out how to get out of the way of freaking fire trucks. That's a really terrible feeling.
My moms house burned down sept 2017 and my brother was home with the dog & my mom was away with me & my kids 3 hours away. The drive from the hotel to the shock trauma to see my brother were the longest 3 hours of my life.
1 am in the morning we saw a glow outside our 2nd story window, my neighbors house was totally up in flames and the owner was ready to run back in and get his other dog. We had to stop him since the house was completely up at this point.
Turns out it was a ceiling fan fire in the back porch.
My brother ran back in for the dog when my moms house was on fire. There was no one there to stop him because it was just him and a neighbor that came to try to help. Thankfully he found her quickly & got back out ok. He thought she was dead at first, but miraculously they were both ok. A firefighter friend of mine said thatโs how a LOT of fire victims die - going back in for someone or something.
Tbh if it meant even a chance of saving my cat, I'd go back in for her regardless of the risk. I'm kinda crazy though, so people should probably listen to the firefighters and not go into burning buildings.
rl_guy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:02:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If you think he gave away where he lives, why don't you try to find the answer & prove your theory right?
I think you're just a paranoid Nancy. Good luck sifting through the other hundreds of articles about house fires at 1 AM where the dog dies & the owner tried to go back & get them.
LOL are you gonna show up at the location of the fire & set up trajectories to find the window of OP?
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M_lKEY ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:57:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The comment is edited. It sounds like he linked an article about the house fire before deleting after it was pointed out.
D8ON ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:14:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The guy posted an article that had the address on it. Fuck off mate
A similar thing happened to me in 2011, I was out walking my dog and when I came back the house was on fire. It sucks. I still live in the rebuilt house on the original lot today.
We don't know for sure, but my dad ran a music instrument repair shop in the garage and we think he might've left one of his machines on by accident. Not to place blame on anyone, of course, we all make mistakes.
Iโm super paranoid about leaving on my soldering iron. Always double checking... then one time I discovered I had left it on an entire night. Itโs a good quality one, but I still get sick to my stomach thinking how my small oversight could have burned my family alive.
As long as it's in the coil base and the base is sturdy the iron should be fine. This being said, leaving the iron on for too long without using it is not good for the iron and can wear out the tip, so shutting off your soldering iron when you're done with it is a good habit to get into, even if you have to turn it right back on when you realize something you missed.
I wish you the best of luck. My family's house burnt down while we were vacationing in Florida. Nothing was salvageable. Thankfully all our animals were able to escape. It was a long road to recovery, and I'd say we are still recovering five years after the fact. It will be hard and very stressfull moving forward, but be grateful no one was harmed. I wish you and your family the best during this awful time.
substorm ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:03:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Man, things like this scare the heck out of me. No matter how many safety measures are in place, there is always that one chance in a million that shit goes sideways. Hang in there OP! I am sure everything will get better.
You're getting a lot of comments on this and some are helpful and some are not.
I went through a house fire 14 months ago. Total loss of contents due to smoke and soot and water. The house had to be gutted. I'm a lawyer who is familiar with insurance and bad faith lawsuits. I knew what to look for and I was still flabbergasted by the process. Call your insurance agent. Depending on your coverage, you could have a lot of options on Day 1. If you feel like you need advice or extra input, send me a PM and we can talk. Im glad to offer any advice or guidance that I can.
The Number One Rule - this is a business dealing between you and your insurance company. They are NOT looking out for you. They are NOT your friend. They know what they owe you and will try to keep their payout low. You're going to have to fight for your rights under the insurance contract. Email your agent for a CERTIFIED copy of your policy with all addendums.
ywBBxNqW ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:26:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know you're getting inundated with shit but I just wanted to say I'm sorry this shit happened to you. I've lost all my shit twice growing up (because of flooding, twice) but at least I had a roof over my head.
Good luck dude.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:27:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Woke up at 6am to get my kids up for school. House full of smoke. Dehumidifier in the basement caught on fire. Not uncommon per the Fire Marshall. Terrifying, especially since you smell nothing when sleeping, but it was acrid plastic smell for weeks. Tg it happened when it did and I woke up when I did. Good luck!! Things can be replaced, people can't. ๐
Check out this post on how to not get fucked by insurance, I've had this saved for a while and I feel like you could use it. Hopefully this won't get buried
"Hey OP... I used to be the guy who worked for insurance companies, and determined the value of every little thing in your house. The guy who would go head-to-head with those fire-truck-chasing professional loss adjusters. I may be able to help you not get screwed when filing your claim.
Our goal was to use the information you provided, and give the lowest damn value we can possibly justify for your item.
For instance, if all you say was "toaster" -- we would come up with a cheap-as-fuck $4.88 toaster from Walmart, meant to toast one side of one piece of bread at a time. And we would do that for every thing you have ever owned. We had private master lists of the most commonly used descriptions, and what the cheapest viable replacements were. We also had wholesale pricing on almost everything out there, so really scored cheap prices to quote. To further that example:
If you said "toaster - $25" , we would have to be within -20% of that... so, we would find something that's pretty much dead-on $20.01.
If you said "toaster- $200" , we'd kick it back and say NEED MORE INFO, because that's a ridiculous price for a toaster (with no other information given.)
If you said "toaster, from Walmart" , you're getting that $4.88 one.
If you said "toaster, from Macys" , you'd be more likely to get a $25-35 one.
If you said "toaster", and all your other kitchen appliances were Jenn Air / Kitchenaid / etc., you would probably get a matching one.
If you said "Proctor Silex 42888 2-Slice Toaster from Wamart, $9", you just got yourself $9.
If you said "High-end Toaster, Stainless Steel, Blue glowing power button" ... you might get $35-50 instead. We had to match all features that were listed.
I'm not telling you to lie on your claim. Not at all. That would be illegal, and could cause much bigger issues (i.e., invalidating the entire claim). But on the flip side, it's not always advantageous to tell the whole truth every time. Pay attention to those last two examples.
I remember one specific customer... he had some old, piece of shit projector (from mid-late 90s) that could stream a equally piece of shit consumer camcorder. Worth like $5 at a scrap yard. It had some oddball fucking resolution it could record at, though -- and the guy strongly insisted that we replace with "Like Kind And Quality" (trigger words). Ended up being a $65k replacement, because the only camera on the market happened to be a high-end professional video camera (as in, for shooting actual movies). $65-goddam-thousand-dollars because he knew that loophole, and researched his shit.
Remember to list fucking every -- even the most mundane fucking bullshit you can think of. For example, if I was writing up the shower in my bathroom:
Designer Shower Curtain - $35
Matching Shower Curtain Liner for Designer Shower Curtain - $15
Shower Curtain Rings x20 - $15
Stainless Steel Soap Dispenser for Shower - $35
Natural Sponge Loofah - from Whole Foods - $15
Natural Sponge Loofah for Back - from Whole Foods - $19
Holder for Loofahs - $20
Bars of soap - from Lush - $12 each (qty: 4)
Bath bomb - from Lush - $12
High end shampoo - from salon - $40
High end conditioner - from salon - $40
Refining pore mask - from salon - $55
I could probably keep thinking, and bring it up to about $400 for the contents of my shower. Nothing there is "unreasonable" , nothing there is clearly out of place, nothing seems obviously fake. The prices are a little on the high-end, but the reality is, some people have expensive shit -- it won't actually get questioned. No claims adjuster is going to bother nitpicking over the cost of fucking Lush bath bombs, when there is a 20,000 item file to go through. The adjuster has other shit to do, too.
Most people writing claims for a total loss wouldn't even bother with the shower (it's just some used soap and sponges..) -- and those people would be losing out on $400.
Some things require documentation & ages. If you say "tv - $2,000" -- you're getting a 32" LCD, unless you can provide it was from the last year or two w/ receipts. Hopefully you have a good paper trail from credit/debit card expenditure / product registrations / etc.
If you're missing paper trails for things that were legitimately expensive -- go through every photo you can find that was taken in your house. Any parties you may have thrown, and guests put pics up on Facebook. Maybe an Imgur photo of your cat, hiding under a coffee table you think you purchased from Restoration Hardware. Like... seriously... come up with any evidence you possibly can, for anything that could possibly be deemed expensive.
The fire-truck chasing loss adjusters are evil sons of bitches, but, they actually do provide some value. You will definitely get more money, even if they take a cut. But all they're really doing, is just nitpicking the ever-living-shit out of everything you possibly owned, and writing them all up "creatively" for the insurance company to process.
Sometimes people would come back to us with "updated* claims. They tried it on their own, and listed stuff like "toaster", "microwave", "tv" .. and weren't happy with what they got back. So they hired a fire-truck chaser, and re-submitted with "more information." I have absolutely seen claims go from under $7k calculated, to over $100k calculated. (It's amazing what can happen when people suddenly "remember" their entire wardrobe came from Nordstrom.)"
This needs to go to the top. By far the most informative thing I've seen in this thread. Thank you.
I actually just got my insurance adjusters license. And because I was foolish and just went with a license mill. I actually just learned more about adjusting a claim from your post than I did in the entirety of the online course/test.
sigh Gotta go sign up for some vale courses now and look up conventions.
I have not entered the industry in any real way yet. I'm literally just licenced about to start applying for jobs and pray someone will take me in and train me.
Most likely I'm going to have to visit some conventions/take more online courses before employers are even gunna want to touch me. But I dunno yet. I'm gunna try and see if I can get in with Chubb or Geico or basically anyone who will take me.
Without any other knowledge I would say: don't use damaged cords; ensure cords are correctly and completely plugged in at each end; uncoil cords before use
My parent's house burned down from a lightning strike on Mother's Day in 2000. It burned all the way to the ground because the fire trucks couldn't make it up our driveway (we lived on a hill back in the woods). :\
I'm sorry for you and your family. I had a friend who passed when her house caught fire a few years ago. I don't wanna be another person who says 'as long as everyone is okay' but it's true. Material things can be replaced, life can't. Good luck, try to keep the blood pressure down.
Iโm so sorry!!! House fires are really scary. I remember when I was 14 our rental house next door burned down (nobody was living in it at the time). I woke up to the fire chief knocking on the door in the middle of the night and saying the house next door is on fire. It still freaks me out to this day. Everything will be okay and God bless you and your family.
Dude, i saw that you posted a picture of your pc setup. I wonder if you could get insurance claims for your broken pc. Maybe if you forgot the specs (you could upgrade it). I know it sucks that your house burnt down, but you gotta look towards the positive side of things. I'm not sure if thats how those home insurance things work, but i really hope everything turns out great for you!
Call Red Cross too! They will help with temporary funds. My FILโs house just burned down and they came out.
Also, try ASAP to start an itemized list of every item in your house that you can think of. When the insurance agency calls make sure to be specific I.e. 60โ Samsung TV not just TV in living room.
JHawkInc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:09:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Bummer OP. In... 2009? Junior year of college. We had fall break. For my university, we had Monday/Tuesday off. I went home for the weekend, then back to school (parents working, sister in school, I'd be home alone during the day, chose to spend that time in my dorm cleaning my room and getting a head start on a research paper, but really I watched like three seasons of Lost on Netflix).
Wednesday was a normal day of classes. Wednesday afternoon the science department lit up some thermite because a new professor cleaning an old storage room found some, and the department thought it would be fun (and it was!). Immediately after I get a phone call from my dad. Sister got home from high school, opened the door to go inside the house, wall of black smoke.
She got to grandparent's house (almost across the street), called 911, dad got home, sometime during that stretch our two cats (indoors 100% of the time) were located and safely... moved to a car or something, I don't remember. Mom was on her way out of town for something, she came home when she found out.
tl;dr, old TV (big HD screen, but the last of those big monsters that took several people to move, before big flat screens became a thing) caught fire at the base, burned hot enough (burning the floor and wall) to bust the end of a fish tank (living room and dining room were kinda one big open space, fish tank was on a counter in the dining room, which put it at a 90 degree angle from the edge of the TV). Fish tank emptied onto the fire, putting it out (mostly). So like 99% of our damage was smoke damage. Family lived at my grandparent's house. I was there over Thanksgiving. I was the first to move in back home, I had to come home from college in the morning, clear space and assemble a bedframe, so my sister's mattress could be delivered and set up in her room, so I could sleep on the air mattress (otherwise one of us wouldn't have a bed that night).
Almost a full decade later, we still find things that have these little purple tags on them, tags used by the cleaner to identify our stuff (because literally everything with fabric in our house was loaded into a truck and driven an hour away to a big industrial cleaning place to get the soot and smoke smell out of it). We trashed a lot of stuff (those big long dumpsters that go on the back of an 18-wheeler? filled 2 or 3 of them, because mattresses and sofas had to go, and then we did some spring cleaning while insurance was paying for those big things to be hauled on/off our property). Some of the books on my bookshelf still have a tiny bit of black on the edge of the pages (as my room was least touched by the smoke, I think what got into my room went up into the crawlspace, so they didn't put as much effort into "deep cleaning" things like my bookshelf; side note, fire department took forever to find the source of the fire because it was mostly put out and there was so much smoke they kept looking for a bigger fire, and they busted through my closet ceiling into our crawlspace, and until that was fixed my room was like thirty degrees colder than the rest of the house... thankfully that was done within a few days of us moving back in). I'll never forget just how black the interior of our house was, and the nasty "soot spiderwebs" that stretched across the house (imagine cobwebs, but as black as you can possibly imagine, and larger, and just more scary looking). Or the feeling of coming into the house just to look around and assess the damage, and not having a clean spot to set down your car keys. Or going through, not touching anything, and still having black smudges on your clothing when you left.
In 2012 I had graduated college and was delivering pizza. One day my boss told me "This family has had a fire, someone (in their church, I think) is paying for their lunch, they don't owe you anything when you get there." So I knew not to ask them about money (or for anyone to sign for using a credit card, the cardholder wouldn't be there). I was glad to help out, I knew what it was like. What my boss didn't tell me was "they had a fire THIS MORNING." I had to move my car when I got there so the fire department could exit the neighborhood. I was delivering pizza to the family (parents, 3-4 kids, at least two grandparents also lived there, maybe an aunt or uncle, many more people effected than when my family of 4 went through it) while a representative of... the Red Cross? was talking to them about getting set up at an extended stay hotel nearby, as well as covering costs for things like toothbrushes and other base need essentials. They hadn't even left their house after the fire yet, they hadn't even been inside somewhere else yet, to get cleaned up or anything.
I'll be honest. Yours looks worse than ours. And we still feel the effects a decade later. It'll be rough. But it'll be okay. And it'll give you some valuable perspective on the world, just having a grasp of what it's like to go through some shit. I'm just now reading that insurance adjuster post... I wish I could comment more on that, but my mom took care of that (I was still living on campus at the time, I wasn't near as "displaced" as my family, because a lot of my stuff was with me at school, and my daily routine didn't change even though they didn't live at home for two months, you know?). All of that about taking pictures and itemizing everything? That's good advice. It'll be worth the effort.
Reach out if you have any questions, or just need to vent.
Your detailed, kind and interesting as hell post is appreciated, my Good Redditor
unkyduck ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:15:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lawyer up. Record everything. The adjuster is NOT your friend, they work for the insurance companies. For example: The additional living expenses (ALE) may be a separate pool from the contents.. so watch out for the first place they put you ..our insurance company put us in a shithole apt/hotel... that was charging $5500 a month for an unserviced furnished box. The 60K ALE disappears really quickly at that rate- forcing you to settle at a disadvantage... and that's just on day one...again LAWYER UP NOW ! EDIT: I have MUCH more... packers putting 2 plates in a box.. then charging for 2 cubic feet of storage, and shipping.. it is relentless, and they do it while you're traumatized...
We had a house fire when I was thirteen, scariest thing thatโs ever happened to me and it still messes with me to this day. I wish you the best of luck and Iโm so sorry this happened!
Thatโs terrible. I came home to a much smaller house fire several years ago and it took me a solid year to not expect to find another when I entered the door. Be well.
stuetel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:53:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm incredibly sorry for you! This is probably one of the worst things that could happen to someone. I really hope the damage isn't too bad and that you have the funds/insurance to fix everything! All the good wishes to you and your family
Canโt imagine how you must be feeling right now but Iโm sure itโs a emotional time so best of luck to you and yours and I hope youโre able to rebuild you life quickly and easily if possible. Take care.
ffatty ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:12:19 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If my house burned down I would probably tell reddit before my family or the police
When I was in middle school(80โs) I was out riding my bike during winter. It was pretty cold out, I was bundled up.. as I rode by my buddyโs house I noticed him standing in his front yard holding his cat in a a pair of shorts and a T-shirt. I rode up and was like โWazzz uppp?โ. He said โ my chimney is on fire and Iโm waiting on the FD. I was like โcool, laterโ .. just a little chimney fire cause they hadnโt had the flue cleaned in years...
Hey if it makes you feel any better, our house burned down on move-in day. Someone put a box on the stove, mustโve accidentally turned the stove top on. We went to eat lunch, came back homeless. Lmaooo
House fires are such a shitty thing to happen. All that you love and cherish is for the most part all in that house, and fire completely wipes all that. I can't do much more than hope you make it through okay.
I am so sorry this happened to you. Thank God no one was hurt. If you need someone to talk to, reach out to a therapist near you. They work wonders and can help you through this.
So sorry op! I lost my family home growing up due to a fire caused by lightning. Hope things get better โค๏ธ
mc395686 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hope that any personal belongings werenโt destroyed. Family items, collectibles; and while yes the first priority should be is everyone okay but loosing that kinda stuff is hard
haistv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Can we start like a charity for this guy or something?
Very glad for you no pets or people were inside. Things can be replaced, though sorry for the loss of sentimental items. Think of this as a sudden start to a new beginning
Naganine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did you live the oven on?
Wdf1987 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Every day I drive by a big white house. This house is nearly identical to the 100+ year old house that stood on the same foundation about 10 years ago. Every time I see that house I think of the girl that died in that old house the night it burned to the ground. I met her a few times, I never knew her well.
Her family still lives in the new house. I can't imagine what it's like moving into a house that looks just like the one you had a few months before, but with that one empty bedroom that looks just like where your daughter used to sleep.
Hey im here if you need someone to talk to. I went through a house fire one year and 3 days now ago. I lost nearly everything and I know how horrific it can be. Please don't be scared to reach out, im here if you need someone to talk to.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hang in there. It happened to me when I was in 11th grade. Most house burned.
What did not was smoke damaged. We stayed in an apartment for six months while it was rebuilt.
Thatโs a lot of damage !! ... sorry for your loss . Hope everyone was okay . U can replace possessions but you canโt replace loved ones . keep that chin up OP!!
ad479 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh that sucks so much, I'm so sorry your family has to go through this! My grandparents lost their house to a fire last year, everything was ruined. Tons of family heirlooms, furniture that had been in the family for decades; we were able to save some things, but almost everything was gone. Its incredibly devastating :(
Iโm so sorry. That must be so horrible to experience. Hopefully the insurance company will cover you. Be careful with fake contractors and fraudulent people.
Hey my house burnt down this summber and it fucking sucked. Best thing you can do is keep your head up. One thing I learned is that you'll always think you have something and then you'll do the classic "fuck it was burnt in the fire". Anyway hope things get better from here.
I feel ya. I was 2 in my little crib sleeping and my little brother set my house on fire and my mom saved me just before my roof collapsed. We lived on a farm and she was out in the yard before the fire got bad apparently.
Another time I was sleeping in my apartment and my roommate came home drunk and changed before going back out. She threw her shoe into the kitchen area. It landed on the stove and hit the element dial to 9 and landed on that element. It set the shoe on fire after a while and then the cabinets. I had a building maintenance guy walking around at 4am and he heard my alarm going off. I had been drinking so I didnโt hear it. He saved my life and put out the fire.
aciara ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Gosh, Iโm so sorry that happened to you :( Iโm glad your family is safe
kozsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gods, my little sisters house went up in flames on December 30th. Everything lost, from her kids Christmas presents, to her last work shirt.
Unfortunately that was her trailer that was uninsured. It's a good lesson on why everyone needs insurance.
xubax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:28:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When filling out claims for insurance, be specific.
If you had a four slot toaster with electronic controls, don't just just "toaster", because they'll assign a value for the cheapest 2 slot piece of shit toaster available. They can only go by what they're told, and then they err on the side of saving money.
Not hurt, in school but have a house? This was a shitty day for you but you're going to survive I promise.
I'm willing to recreate every family photo you lost with you. It won't be the same but will be fun.
Just remember to quote every item you lost as the most expensive on the market. You didn't have a toaster you had the most expensive one on the market, same with tv stove what have you.
Best of luck, I'm so sorry for your shitty day. <3
Good luck with everything, I had gone to the grocery store to get groceries and on my way home got a call that my house was on fire from my fiancรฉe, and saw smoke as I was heading down the road, lost all of our house and everything inside and our cat, took quite a few months to actually finish the list and turn it in and about a couple months for the money to come in, all in all probably spent about a year and a half from when our house burned down to when we moved into our new one and got our check.
I've been through 2 myself. If I've learned anything it's this:
Stuff is just stuff. It may have sentimental value, which hurts, but in the end, the $5 shirt burns the same at the $50 shirt.
Never take anyone for granted. I have thankfully never lost a family member, unless you're including dogs. Just recognize things could be a lot worse, losing a parent or sibling.
God bless! Will keep you in my prayers.
My childhood home burned down a couple of years back and my mom didnโt make it. I understand your pain and if you need to talk or vent, pm me anytime. Insurance will definitely be a useful resource if you read what your exact coverage is.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks I'll keep you in mind
dehlias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Insurance pays amazingly well. For what itโs worth, youโre about to get a check for over $100,000 to replace just your stuff. (As well as another check for the replacement value of the house!)
ideally, yes, but They donโt just hand you a check. they go through whatever they can in the house and compare it with an inventory you have to create of every. Single. Belonging. Then they decide whether or not theyโre going to pay you per item as you repurchase or if the numbers get high enough, they give you a lump some. When my moms house burned down, they ended up giving her a lump some because the value of her belongings was worth more than whatever their threshold is. They rebuilt her house (well, sheโs hopefully moving in this month. Fire was in sept 2017), so she didnโt get a check for that. She just kept paying her mortgage and they put her in a โcomparableโ house, which was actually crazy nice and much bigger than hers, probably twice my moms mortgage, but she didnโt pay any more. Then the other thing you have to keep in mind is things that canโt be replaced, you know? Thatโs been a real struggle for us. Fire is such a scary traumatic thing.
Wish you the best. Happened to my family while I was away at school. Electric blanket. Lots of patience necessary ahead but remind yourself that youโre all okay. Family is a very precious thing. Hang in there. Youโll be ok.
As long as everyone got out, itโs ok. I know people mourn โthingsโ, but theyโre just things. Iโm so sorry, but Iโm so happy it was only a house.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well I mean.. I mourn things too. In my house, I have photos of friends and gifts from people I love. Most of the people involved in them I donโt talk to that much anymore because theyโve moved on. Iโd hate to lose those.
I was never afraid of a house fire until I woke up one morning to my neighborโs house on fire. Looking out the window at 5 am the week after I graduated high school to a house engulfed in flames was actually terrifying.
Good luck, OP. I can imagine how difficult it is to lose everything, but at least youโre safe.
Scared to death of house fires ugh. Our rental burned to the ground some years ago and we lost everything with no rental insurance (first time renters, forgot to pay the annual fee, learned our lesson real hard). We live with my significant otherโs father now because he canโt take care of himself well due to age and alcoholism. Came home from work yesterday to a house filled with gas. Drunk ass left the burner on and passed out in his room. Second time heโs done it.
snoho2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hi, Iโm your hair straightener and I just looove living on the edge, of your sink. Ooopsie, looks like I leaned a little too far and you hair clogged sink doesnโt drain fast enough. ~flames~
Get Allstate and be better protected from mayhem, like me.
fbivan4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When you write up the claim be very detailed on every single belonging. I saw a post a while back that you need to say exactly what brand and model of item you had. Example donโt say โa toasterโ say โElectrolux premium double side toasting 200XL with integrated DVD player toasterโ
Hwangso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know your pain. Hopefully things will work out for you and yours. Prayers are with you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thats lit
C_Bowick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, bud. My house burned down like a month ago. Everything will be fine, I promise. Thankfully everyone got out safely. We lost everything and I'm sure you did too. From fire and water damage from the firefighters. But itll all be alright hang in there.
Happened to me in September of 18. Except I wasn't away, I was asleep at 5 in the morning when it started. Thank smoke detectors for waking us up.
mreid74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Don't hesitate to ask the Red Cross for assistance. They can give you vouchers for all kinds of things almost instantly like hotel rooms and clothing. My house burned in 2007, and I had offers from the Red Cross, but I didn't think I needed them. It would have made life a lot better for about a week because I had nothing but good friends and a couch to sleep on. Most of my belongings still existed, but were ruined. Not having shoes for a day or two sucks, and when recovered, I couldn't stand the smell. I have a better than average insurance company according to the comments. The only thing that sucked was I had to put money up for a room for a day at a hotel, but every dollar I spent was instantly reimbursed. I didn't have much money, but a local hotel owner cut me a rate of 50 percent. The fire happened on a Sunday night and my insurance company cut me a check for the full amount of the policy for the house by Thursday minus the 3K deductible. They paid for displaced housing when I rented an apartment and paid for the full six month lease even though I stayed only a month and bought another house. Everything I lost, except my Kitty, was paid for for replacement value. Even if something was obsolete, the new version was paid for no questions asked. Who are some of you people getting insurance from that delay payments or fight you? I hope you do well. It looks cold there. I hate to tell you, but you may have dreams about this for years. I still do. It happened very quickly. I woke up to the fire, but coming home to one might be just as rattling.
Ttoca420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I immediately thought about A series of Unfortunate Events
I feel for you! Had a random arsonist set our apartment/studio on fire. We werenโt home but only one of the kitties survived. A firefighter crawled under the smoke and brought Juju out, but Spock, who loved to sleep in the rafters, died from smoke inhalation. My poor baby. It was an incredibly shitty several weeks and we had no insurance. Typing this brings back all the feelings.
Iโm so sorry this happened to you man, God I couldnโt imagine what you and your family is going through. I wish you the best of luck and hope you get through this. Did anything significant besides the house get destroyed?
theatm11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hired an insurance adjuster. They got 10% but did a much better job than I ever could. They dealt with insurance company and the stress went from 100% to 15%. Highly recommend.
Gage88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I always feel bad upvoting a post like this... but hereโs your upvote! If thereโs anything I can help with PM me. If your a gamer I have some games for Xbox and PlayStation. Or if you just need a beer and a slice of pizza let me know! I wish you well and hope your doing ok!
There is no good way to describe the gratitude no one got hurt with the simultaneous feelings of total violation and vulnerability. Went through this two years ago. Stuff can be replaced, memories are with you forever
Koof99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Can OP legally make a GoFundMe and get insurance money?
Nice. Hopefully you had good coverage. You're about to get a lot of shiny things. Make sure to look at previous "how to claim" post so you know how to get that flagahip 100 inch TV that burned.
My deepest sympathy to you and your family. I truly hope you guys get back on your feet as soon as possible.
SAFVoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn getting roasted while at school just got a new meaning
wasted10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So sorry...Having been through a house fire I know how devastating it is....Everything, gone, just like that.
I haven't perused the rest of the comments but I hope everyone in your family is ok, including pets. I was fortunate enough to not lose any human family members in the fire, but did lose 3 pets(RIP).
Scar555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like my neighborhood haha, hope everyone is ok
My house caught fire two years ago while we were asleep inside. I can relate to the swing of emotions you may be feeling. Iโm so so sorry that you had to go through this but very glad you and your family is safe.
jehraf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I remember getting home from school one day shortly after my uncle had moved across the state. My mom was watching the news, and on screen there was a house on fire. She asks me "You know how your uncle moved recently?". I respond, "Yeah, why?"
"That's his house."
My house caught fire a few years ago, everyone was safe except a lot of family pictures and things I had from my grandfather who had passed away. We couldnโt afford the repairs so we had to leave. Spent most of my childhood there
It sucks - there is a huge emotional toll that comes with a disaster like this. I feel for you and your family right now. I pray you and your family find peace and a place to stay. It hurts my heart seeing people go through things like this
Iโm so sorry that this happened to you and your family. Itโs such an awful thing to be displaced like that. Everyone here is giving great advice, itโs wise to make a list, go through your bank records and price out every item that was lost. It will save you a lot of time in the long run.
This happened to my family the Christmas before last and we had an intense ordeal in which the insurance company refused to respond to any of our communications regarding temporary housing, estimates for the structural and personal loss. We finally got lawyers involved and received the settlement last November. Make sure to pester the insurance company often, it isnโt normal for a settlement to take several months. Good luck!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Edit: Also, my deepest and sincerest sympathy for you and your family. This is awful and I wouldnโt wish it upon my enemies. Hope everythingโs okay (havenโt read through the comments yet).
renrioku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry about your house mate, I am still financially recovering from my house burning down on June 4th 2018. It was devastating and wiped out my savings. There are a LOT of organizations that can help you out, but it is going to be very stressful for a while.
dehlias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What a great learning experience! I'm sure God has some awesome things in store for you!
EndVry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Cue a series of unfortunate events.
cort133 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This has happened to me!! My garage is a separate building from my actual home and I got a call saying there was smoke near my house. Turns out my entire garage was on fire by the time I got home.
When I was 17 I came home from school to find the same scene... my house engulfed in flames and completely destroyed. It took me about three years to stop dwelling on it - and another two years to stop blaming my mother for causing it. She left a candle burning and it somehow spread and sent the whole house ablaze.
Now, 18 years later, I look at it as a valuable learning experience. I learned that material possessions are rather meaningless. I learned that the people in your life are what makes a home - not the physical dwelling. It has ultimately made me focus more on โexperiencesโ and less on accumulating โstuffโ.
The next few years may be tough on you, but donโt lose faith. Lean on your friends and family, this is an event that can bring you all much closer.
My mom had an attic fire about 7 years ago. her old ass dog was sleeping in the front room with embers falling on him and he still didn't wake up. She woke up for some reason and went out to figure out why she woke up and could see shit falling on the dog (he was old as fuck). Called 911 and went outside. Didn't do TOO much damage really, but her insurance gave her money for anything that had "soot" on it. So she got new flooring for the kitchen and front room, new TV, etc. I told her to get a bigger TV at the time and she didn't think she needed one and now.... she looking for a bigger TV. Insurance took care of shit really well, but I felt bad she had to stay in a hotel for like 3 months or so.
Had this happen 12 years ago and although I was only 8/9 I still remember everything so clearly. House fires are one the worst experiences. I wish you the best and hope that you are able to be back in your home soon!!
I had a house fire (also electrical) in December of 2016. I'm sure things seem really overwhelming and shitty right now, but it will get better. I just remember standing on the side of the road with nothing, a million things running through my head thinking what am I am going to do... but try not to think about the big picture too much right now. Just be happy you are safe and your family is safe. Things could be so much worse. All the best to you, I hope things go smoothly with insurance and the rebuild.
Man, so sorry. Always my worse nightmare to be driving home and see smoke, and the closer yoi get the more you realize itโs your place. I hope you have good insurance, but I know youโve likely lost things that are irreplaceable
I remember my apartment complex had caught on fire when i was a kid it was in 09. The fire started 2 building from mine and I was asleep but my parents woke me up after someone started banging on the door telling us there was a fire so I quickly got up and left while my dad grabbed the important stuff we couldn't lose. The whole night we watched the fire department try to put out the fire. After they had put it out we lost pretty much everything. I hope you bounce back from this op!
urskrubs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yo this happened to me a year ago! It really sucks
TheKappp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So sorry to hear that! My house burned down when I was in high school. I hope no one was hurt. From someone who went through it, I know youโll get through it, too. Some stuff is hard to lose, but it is all just stuff. Your parents undoubtedly have homeowners insurance, so youโll be able to replace your things. I know not everything can be replaced, but Iโm glad youโre ok.
For perspective, by the next year or so after we had rebuilt the home (with insurance money), everything was back to normal. Itโs a stressful blip (way more for my mom than for me), but life goes on.
Woten333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
why is that wheat not already harvested???? Itโs winter!!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
u a music producer by any chance?
Edven971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs horrible!!!!
jvt0199 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My family home burned when I was 11-13 I was sleeping at a friend's house a few houses down. Did not believe my mother when she came and told me. I only realized the scope of the situation at school the following week.
I'm so sorry about what happened to you. it will take a long time to get 100% back to normal but just by y'all having insurance will make thangs go plot smoother trust me not having insurance on your house/stuff will be really hard. So everyone please get insurance, you'll regret it if you don't( speaking from experience of hole house being flooded).
Flat next door to ours caught fire. We lived in a really bad part of the South LA "hood" so glass breaking was normal to us. The flash of orange right outside the window terrified us. I'll never forget looking out our bedroom window to an arm of flame literally eight feel away.
Turned out to be an arson case from a salty ex-tennant but I'm afraid it'll happen again one day. I hope I'm wrong.
I'm glad you all are okay OP. I hope you all get back on your feet soon. Be well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Man dude that sucks stay in there dude! In high school this house caught on fire and exactly 1 year later on the same fucking day it burnt down again. They rebuilt it and it hasn't burnt down yet and it's been 5 years haha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When my dad was back in highschool in SoCal. One day they could see smoke coming from a nearby neighborhood, and he jokingly said that someone house was on fire. End of school hes walking home with friends and it just happened to be his house that caught on fire lol. Nothing serious thankfully, grandma was just burning to much stuff in the fireplace and it caught the roof on fire.
OP ... El Paso TX right here... If you need and give an address and well send some suplies or materials whatever I can to help you out.
Vaeghar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When i first went of to live in my own house, 2 weeks later a roof 2 houses down had lit on fire.
Now, there's a webcam on the churchtower i can see my house from.
After that incident i was checking that webcam multiple times a day for weeks to see if my house was not on fire.
Now, my house is 150 years old, but everything was stripped and renovated after i bought it.
So everything electrical is up to code.....but still...
Sometimes there's multiple house fires in a month where i live, ans most are old buildings..
Get a notebook and pens and start writing everything down that you have that got damaged. From electronics, to silverware, from cushions to toothbrushes. Everything.
Add brands if you know them. Otherways they will find a crap new toaster for $3.99 in some obscure www site and that is all you will get for a toaster. If you say Cuisinart 4 toast toaster stainless steel, now you are probably getting $50.00 to replace the toaster. You get the idea.
Ask your family members to do the same.
You will need a record of the items for the insurance company to figure out compensation.
If you got pics or video records, even better.
Best of luck to you!
Zeke1902 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing it was electrical issues?
EonNeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
treegood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
upvoteing this in a good way
831827 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
im so sorry :( i hope everything gets better and your family and you find a new house
SamL214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And this scares the shit out of me...my dad was a huge amateur film photographer. We have thousands of photos. I have scanned some, but itโs a massive undertaking and Iโm not confident enough in the postal system to send them out for professional scanning.
Not to mention the myriad of textbooks I have gotten over the years. I really need things appraised and backed up.
Plan on being out of your house for a long time. we have friends staying with us who've been here close to 12 weeks for a tiny little fire in a guest bathroom. They never thought in a million years it would take so long
Granted we can't see the full extent in this picture, it does at least seem better than it could have been. I mean it still sucks but it could have been a pile of embers. Wish you the best going forward
This was always my fear and why I was so paranoid if I accidentally left my hair straightener on or not lol
gladysk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is a post I saved long ago! Most valuable info on reddit!
PowMom01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:03 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I am typing this comment from my tiny temporary home while my home is being repaired from a fire on 12/22/18. The fire was the easy part, waiting to go home is the worst. Hope it goes quickly!!!
_J-Dot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:41 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shit man, donโt know what Iโd do if my house caught on fire with my dog in it while Iโm at school
nickf714 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:13 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey bub! Same thing happened to me in 7th grade! I'm mid 20s now. My heart and positive vibes go out to you! Best of luck. It's uphill from here!
OP? If your family has a house that size, your family has insurance. It will suck for a bit and you'll lose some sentimental items, but you're not going to be homeless.
Everyone laughs when a trailer home burns down but guess what? That person has "lost" a lot more than the upper middle class person would.
Saved comment
dumbolddoor ยท 14157 points ยท Posted at 02:09:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a useful comment I've saved from /u/0102030405
Hey OP... I used to be the guy who worked for insurance companies, and determined the value of every little thing in your house. The guy who would go head-to-head with those fire-truck-chasing professional loss adjusters. I may be able to help you not get screwed when filing your claim.
Our goal was to use the information you provided, and give the lowest damn value we can possibly justify for your item.
For instance, if all you say was "toaster" -- we would come up with a cheap-as-fuck $4.88 toaster from Walmart, meant to toast one side of one piece of bread at a time. And we would do that for every thing you have ever owned. We had private master lists of the most commonly used descriptions, and what the cheapest viable replacements were. We also had wholesale pricing on almost everything out there, so really scored cheap prices to quote. To further that example:
I'm not telling you to lie on your claim. Not at all. That would be illegal, and could cause much bigger issues (i.e., invalidating the entire claim). But on the flip side, it's not always advantageous to tell the whole truth every time. Pay attention to those last two examples.
I remember one specific customer... he had some old, piece of shit projector (from mid-late 90s) that could stream a equally piece of shit consumer camcorder. Worth like $5 at a scrap yard. It had some oddball fucking resolution it could record at, though -- and the guy strongly insisted that we replace with "Like Kind And Quality" (trigger words). Ended up being a $65k replacement, because the only camera on the market happened to be a high-end professional video camera (as in, for shooting actual movies). $65-goddam-thousand-dollars because he knew that loophole, and researched his shit.
Remember to list fucking every -- even the most mundane fucking bullshit you can think of. For example, if I was writing up the shower in my bathroom:
I could probably keep thinking, and bring it up to about $400 for the contents of my shower. Nothing there is "unreasonable" , nothing there is clearly out of place, nothing seems obviously fake. The prices are a little on the high-end, but the reality is, some people have expensive shit -- it won't actually get questioned. No claims adjuster is going to bother nitpicking over the cost of fucking Lush bath bombs, when there is a 20,000 item file to go through. The adjuster has other shit to do, too.
Most people writing claims for a total loss wouldn't even bother with the shower (it's just some used soap and sponges..) -- and those people would be losing out on $400.
Some things require documentation & ages. If you say "tv - $2,000" -- you're getting a 32" LCD, unless you can provide it was from the last year or two w/ receipts. Hopefully you have a good paper trail from credit/debit card expenditure / product registrations / etc.
If you're missing paper trails for things that were legitimately expensive -- go through every photo you can find that was taken in your house. Any parties you may have thrown, and guests put pics up on Facebook. Maybe an Imgur photo of your cat, hiding under a coffee table you think you purchased from Restoration Hardware. Like... seriously... come up with any evidence you possibly can, for anything that could possibly be deemed expensive.
The fire-truck chasing loss adjusters are evil sons of bitches, but, they actually do provide some value. You will definitely get more money, even if they take a cut. But all they're really doing, is just nitpicking the ever-living-shit out of everything you possibly owned, and writing them all up "creatively" for the insurance company to process.
Sometimes people would come back to us with "updated* claims. They tried it on their own, and listed stuff like "toaster", "microwave", "tv" .. and weren't happy with what they got back. So they hired a fire-truck chaser, and re-submitted with "more information." I have absolutely seen claims go from under $7k calculated, to over $100k calculated. (It's amazing what can happen when people suddenly "remember" their entire wardrobe came from Nordstrom.)
ArsStarhawk ยท 1009 points ยท Posted at 03:13:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My basement flooded with about 8" of water in Spring '18.
This post was instrumental in setting my frame of mind. In that we gave them no quarter when they came back with prices.
Some choice examples:
A full-size art easel was assessed as a 12" high desk ornament.
3 6 foot high heavy steel file cabinets assessed as 2.5ft. press board drawers.
antique pressure system "recorder' to be replaced with $5 recorder... as in the musical instrument.
took weeks if nagging to get them to even add the stove and freezer.
Remember, this was a flood. So everything still existed. And was photographed.
At the end of it all (7 months) our nitpicking increased the compensation from $11,000 to almost $20,000.
s1h4d0w ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 01:00:59 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Man that sounds frustrating.
SnakeyRake ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:40:01 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How many hours did you spend of your time to correct their low-balling?
ArsStarhawk ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 05:34:10 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
8-12 correcting the low balling.
Countless more hours trying to babysit and chase down all the contractors involved.
Every single contractor was a disappointment at best. And fraudulent at worst.
0/10 would not recommend.
toggleme1 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:37:02 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโd bill them fit my time too.
xpkranger ยท 2514 points ยท Posted at 02:31:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus - That would take me literally months to inventory my house like that. I mean I see why you suggest all of it - and I'm saving your post. But wow...
What about Antiques? Historical or family documents? Electronics that came with the house that you don't have a receipt for?
waltpsu ยท 2370 points ยท Posted at 02:49:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Take 10 minutes, and go all throughout your house (fairly slowly) with a video camera. Back it up to the cloud. If you ever have a house fire, then you can watch that video and spend all of that time compiling an inventory list.
sceIIaux ยท 1103 points ยท Posted at 02:58:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit... solid fucking idea. Add that with a receipt scanner and bank statements. You've got your whole house back.
-Jive-Turkey- ยท 367 points ยท Posted at 05:00:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
well 80% at least
WiggleBooks ยท 613 points ยท Posted at 05:14:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
With some clever loop-holing you could even get it to 150% apparently lol
collapsing_sanity ยท 313 points ยท Posted at 07:48:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โI swear our house had 12 bedrooms !โ
PlatavsPlomo ยท 209 points ยท Posted at 08:08:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โSir, do you have a receipt for those solid gold doorknobs? Because they look like anodized steel in the photo.โ
AtaturkJunior ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 08:48:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's.. uh.. white gold.
Tsorovar ยท 223 points ยท Posted at 10:03:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
"They're steel plated to protect the gold"
Summoarpleaz ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 12:58:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
... and the 10 carat diamond inside.
Rippy56 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:55:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
SkollFenrirson ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 09:25:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's the lighting
The_Multi_Gamer ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 12:31:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โI painted over them to protect the gold. And Iโll have you know that that is no ordinary โsteelโ paint, itโs dull platinum, which can only be made with 10,000 pounds of platinum.โ
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:20:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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Bigted1800 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:18:04 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You can double or triple that if you include external locks.
We recently had our front door lock replaced because the one I installed broke (it was a tiny piece of plastic that prevented the handle from springing back above vertical when you let it go) so I called on the warranty to get a new part. The company had discontinued the line and couldnโt find a replacement part. After a bit of back and forth I made a joke that we could be persuaded to trade in our $170 lock for their newest $700 computerised one with Bluetooth, NFC cards, heat sensitive keypad and a heap of other features I havenโt actually figured out and absolutely stunned when they agreed AND insisted on having their locksmith install it.
coalcoalcoal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:50 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We didn't get that fancy, but who knows. You're right though, it's really expensive to change it all out.
sknnbones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:02 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Pfft, youโre getting the $9.97 set with no keylock from walmart (You know, the brass flimy garbage knobs that are harvested from TwoStar Motels)
coalcoalcoal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:55 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, I'm talking about nicer ones from Lowes/HomeDepot but still.
Blk_shp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:51:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You canโt anodize steel (sorry I couldnโt help myself)
PlatavsPlomo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:19:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I could have chose a different metal which is more commonly anodized but you definitely can anodize steel
Field_Sweeper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:13 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
technically you can anodize ANY object that would hold a charge or at least be conductive.
nygibs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My house has 14. But can only be insured to 2/3 value, alas!
suitology ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 08:28:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
my tiffiny dog waterbowl!
advertentlyvertical ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:45:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
here's your $6 petsmart bowl. Tiffany the cashier helped us pick it.
CaviarMyanmar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:20:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Soo borrow some expensive gadgets and jewelry and take pics of them around the house?
Nala666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:24 on February 9, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
yes.
Scaramouche15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Minus the house
Waht3rB0y ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:12:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Download Google Cardboard Camera, stand in the middle of the room, hit record and do a 360* spin. Repeat as needed. Throw on a VR headset and be amazed. Also works well for inventorying gramma for when sheโs not around anymore. Reach out and touch someone!
Toger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:19:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Beware taking the photos in a format that might be difficult to recover, or to make available to adjusters.
Waht3rB0y ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:51:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They are just stored as JPEG. Iโm pretty sure that JPEG is widely supported.
Itโs a stop gap measure anyways to remind them of what they have in each room until they can make a proper inventory with individual photos of important items. Itโs better to have something than nothing.
Upload them to the cloud too so you have offsite storage. If your house burns down it doesnโt help much if the only copy was a phone or camera left on an end table.
toxicatedscientist ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:55:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You can probably use the same camera to "scan" documents. There's definitely apps that will digitize text
dwhite21787 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 13:47:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A $65k camera, which you need to show in a mirror
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Adobe do one and i think a one google scans to pdf too
LacidOnex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:22 on February 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I take a pic the SN of any electronics I buy, if it's ever stolen I can get it back and if it burns down I can prove I owned a specific model. Even individual computer parts, my blender, I just go through my automatic backups every once in a while and move them over. I took a picture of my DVD collection.
MikeFromSuburbia ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 03:33:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I took photos and videos along with the serial number of major electronics in my apartment.
angelsandairwaves93 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 04:00:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I like your username
MikeFromSuburbia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:26:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The first time anyone has commented on it! Thank you so much!!
btw your is cool as well
ThatCrazyBrazilian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Now kith
advertentlyvertical ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
oh, you crazy Brazilian!
Motolav ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:15:03 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm planning on doing the same and making an excel doc of it
666pool ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 08:14:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do it before you go to school tomorrow.
MikeFromSuburbia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:27:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not a bad idea. I'll have to make an excel document as well with prices and such then back up on a USB along with photos / drop box
JayDnG ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:51:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldnt all the orders and bank statements be enough proof? Like, I can check my order history for everything that I have.
MikeFromSuburbia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:29:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have a couple of things from YEARS ago. I suppose this day in age you can control + F key words on bank statements and find it for major items.
Stuff like my TVs, laptops, gaming systems, DBZ collection, etc etc I wanted to take photos of. The rest like pots, pans, clothes, I just took pictures of.
ClaudiuT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Some people receive laptops / consoles or other valuable stuff as gifts. So you won't find those in your bank statements...
But on the other hand, if you buy stuff for other people, you can say that the bank statements prove that you owned that stuff too and should get reimbursed for it!
toggleme1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:38:13 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Cool?
VintageJane ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 04:11:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When my friendโs house burned down, they contacted me asking if I had taken any photos in the house. They literally just wanted any evidence at all of what they owned to help substantiate their claims.
NedryOS ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 05:13:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ill just leave this here
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:13:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A year ago the guy was wondering why it would become copypasta.
smoothie-slut ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:30:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Was I supposed to do this before or after I set my house on fire?
mrkramer1990 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
While itโs burning
ProfessorHardw00d ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The only way to prove that your things did actually burn in the fire.
BigFuckingTroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
With this comment you just invalidated your claim
ladydanger2020 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 05:03:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yep I did this when I bought my house! I should probably do it again now that there have been upgrades to the kitchen, foundation, new plumbing etc
kaoticfox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:21 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs a really good idea
foolishDoughnut ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 07:31:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My eldest brother was in the Air Force when I was a teen, stationed in Germany. Because he relocated often, he took to video recording and photographing his possessions before movers took over with each deployment. He taught us the value of that back in the 80s, and as we lived in Florida at the time, we started doing it at the beginning of every hurricane season, or some years on New Years Day after we got new things for Christmas.
Also, nowadays there are apps that allow you to scan in the UPC on books, dvds, video games, etc which the keeps an updated insurance record of your collections and their retail value at the time you add it.
iknowCatMan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:52:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How important are serial numbers? When I moved, I took videos of all my appliances running in case the movers broke them, but don't have any serial numbers.
necromantzer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:23:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Serial numbers, like model numbers, give you the ability to better match features and prices of the item rather than a generic item that may or may not have the features you previously had.
iknowCatMan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:26:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, but if I have a picture/video of the device with its model number, does the serial number matter?
necromantzer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:31:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not. Sometimes there might be minor changes in a specific model of a device, but as for electronics, that is typically firmware/software related. S/N also indicates the date of manufacturing (only the manufacturer would have that information) which could potentially help pinpoint the age of the device, but again, likely not useful in this scenario. A picture/video of the item with the model number will give you all you need to know (receipt/proof of purchase would be the only accompanying info that could assist).
iknowCatMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! That's really helpful info.
drakebillion15 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:16:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Commenting because you guys are fucking brilliant, thanks.
myUsername4Work ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man, this guy jacked your comment for karma.
Ahielia ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:51:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You mean how Reddit as a whole works?
waltpsu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs ok, hopefully more people see it and it helps some people. Not really an original thought, Iโve probably seen that 20x here on Reddit (and I personally just did the video inventory a few weeks ago so it was top-of-mind). Thanks for the heads up, and I do appreciate your comment in that thread giving credit to exactly where OP got the idea!
Chaise91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Also, another pro-tip is don't burn your fuckin house down tomorrow and go and say to your adjustor "oh i just happen to have this video from yesterday". Might raise some flags......
Qwerky_Name_Pun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
As a photographer and videographer SLOWLY is a huge keyword. I had a friend try to show me her apartment via video but she just kept moving and everything was a blur. Panoramics of each room would also work well as nothing in the room moves.
Little_Baron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:04 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I do this once a year with my phone. Making โmajorโ and โminorโ videos for each room. And each compartment of each room. And last year i started keeping a running list. It takes time to get started but once you do it is usually easy to keep it up to date every 6months.
n3cr0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:34 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have a really crazy neighborhood around 4th it July every year with tons of (illegal) mortar style fireworks. I do an annual video inventory every July 3rd because of this. Iโll go into every closet and even open some of the drawers with expensive items.
kathios ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 03:00:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
There's an app called Encircle that let's you take multiple pics of an item and label it for this very reason.
nomadofwaves ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:19:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Saved
bostess ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 04:25:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i always took pictures when i visited home so after our home burned i was the only one that could basically put together panoramic shots of our house and the contents.
having said that, my mom had an antique cabinet full of blue onion dishes. i forget why theyโre valuable, but theyโre old, made in germany(?), and expensive. $100/plate kind of expensive.
she had full sets, soup tureens, etc. the picture i had couldnโt definitively prove they were originals so they did what the person above said. found the closest and cheapest match (aka imitation/reproductions) and that was that. thousands of dollars whittled down to a few hundred bucks, if that. i wish we had known about the above information because we really got screwed by not naming exact name brands and specifics.
RexDraco ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:26:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Historical and family documents have value, financial value, and you can easily find out based on age what that is to collectors. Even old photographs sell for some money.
20000Fish ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:09:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I recommend a bulky (ie: couldn't be carried out of the house) fire-proof safe for critical documents (birth certificate, house deed, whatever essential documents you may have collected.)
sevinhand ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:18:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
take pictures of everything - open closets. open drawers. be thorough.
our town burned in 2011, so we had hundreds of horror stories about insurance companies. but that was the biggest thing - take pictures (or video).
Pnohmes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You arenโt in the TX panhandle are you?
sevinhand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i'm canadian.
Pnohmes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
As in the town Canadian that burned down in 2011, or a person from Canada?
Unincrediblehulk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:52:12 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The town of Canadian. 1000โs evacuated, it was a complete loss.
Pnohmes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:39 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, thatโs what I thought you were saying. From Amarillo, so I remember that well. Freakinโ insurance screwed everybody and even the charity outreach from United way and such was highly ineffective. Pisses me off to think about.
balthazar_nor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs why you do it beforehand
Gorshiea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Antiques and exceptionally valuable items should be appraised. Get a certificate and make electronic copies. Add them as individual items to your insurance. The appraiser usually keeps records, so they can be cross-referenced in a dispute (to demonstrate you're not trying to scam the insurance company by making up expensive items on the fly).
ace425 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey OP, I'm pretty familiar with this topic. Many homeowners / rental insurance policies specifically do NOT cover things like artwork, antiques, firearms, jewelry, and cash. These items typically require a separate riders policy to be covered. As for electronics you have to show proof that they were in working condition before the claim. Basically just take a quick video on your phone with your TVs, computers, tablets, etc turned on and working. Make sure to also get a clear view of the serial numbers as well.
Toger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
>antiques
Valuable antiques may require a supplementary rider on your insurance and some form of pre-claim valuation. The insurance company is not going to just take your word for the fact that the vase in a picture is actually a $2M ancient vase, and pay that out on a standard homeowners policy. If they don't have outright exclusions in the standard policy for antiques it'll be a low limit. Same for jewelry.
>electronics
Your policy will have an electronics limit; if you have an entertainment den with $20K in gear you'll need a rider on your policy. Receipts are not necessary (the vast majority of people don't keep them, insurance would never have to pay out) but showing you owned the item is the important bit. I suppose a receipt would be useful to show that you owned an item seemed otherwise totally out of character for the rest of your claim; in case the insurance company suspects you borrowed some pricy items during the picture taking to beef up your claim.
Historical or family documents should be stored at a minimum in a local fire/water proof safe (as it wouldn't do for the safe to keep the papers from burning only to have them dissolve in the suppression water); a bank safe deposit box is also a great place for these. Irreplaceable documents should probably have a digital copy in cloud storage somewhere remote from the location of the original.
xpkranger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is I have dozens of boxes full of letters, pictures, family bibles and scrapbooks and stuff dating back to the 1840's. Fireproof safes for all of that stuff would cost a fortune. Ugh...
Toger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thats quite a collection. A digital copy of everything that can be reasonably placed in a scanner or on a camera table is a good idea. Thats a tough one.
TheRealSlimErie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to me when I was 12 and it took my parents so long to inventory everything, they spent so many nights with the insurance people it was crazy!
kaoticfox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:57 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I would do it a room at a time before anything happens and keep it somewhere safe( and nonflammable) that way you donโt have to figure it out while dealing with something like this and also because you can write down the brands and all that
WWMRD2016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
In the UK, house insurance doesn't normally include extremely valuable items unless you specifically include them. For example, I had to tell the insurers about my wife's engagement ring and what it's worth.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 02:56:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the advice
bertcox ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 05:33:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We lost our house 3 years ago. Treat it like you lost a loved one, with that same amount of care and attention to your family. Its stressful as hell. Do check over your paperwork very carefully, and ask lots of questions.
AnotherBoredAHole ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:50:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Considering at least my dad wants to be cremated and spread through the woods, I'm not sure I want to treat it like losing that loved one...
bertcox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My house was in the country, with no fire hydrants. The firemen stopped fighting once it was going to be a loss, they then asked if we wanted them to dump all their remaining water or let it burn, as the more that burned the less you have to haul away. So the firemen kind of helped cremate my house that was then spread across a nice dump.
hashtag_pickles ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:48:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This advice is spot on, I imagine you're overwhelmed right now but definitely save it for later.
I lost my house in a fire last year and am almost (fingers crossed) done dealing with the "contents" part of the insurance claim.
Don't rush yourself, this is a long and tiresome process. You're going to want to quit because listing every damn thing in your house is tiresome, but don't.
Pictures are a great help for jogging your memory when the time comes.
Glad you got out safe, sorry this happened to you. If you have any questions or anything feel free to PM me.
Gypsierose8 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 02:36:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well then. I'm going through and taking pictures of absolutely everything I own now
Jormungandrrrrrr ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 07:15:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what I did when I read the original comment. I walked around my home photographing everything, and I took pictures of the most valuable things (electronics, mostly) and their original boxes and serial numbers. Then I saved videos and pictures to the cloud.
I live in a 4-story wooden building that's 100+ years old. My neighbors are old and use gas stoves. I hope nothing ever happens, but if it does, I hope we're safe at work, because I can totally see this building burning instantly. No fire-resistant walls or ceilings here.
87jj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:31:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just make a video of you slowly walking around your house recording everything, and then save it to the cloud.
quiet_locomotion ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Itll be like a 4gb file dude. Pictures will be easier.
87jj ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:12:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
4gb isnโt that much to ensure the safety of your house and your funds.
AsInOptimus ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 03:00:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How much time do people have to compile and submit such a list after a catastrophic event like this? If it comes in too quickly (like if youโre type A and actually have it ready to roll), does that trigger any suspicion? Like the person who just happened to have all his important documents in the glove compartment of his car.
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notLOL ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 05:28:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I left my wife and her secret boyfriend in the house by accident. How much for the clothes on their bodies?
System: *triggered *
Jormungandrrrrrr ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:26:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
"Queue" means a line of people waiting for something, or the act of standing in such a line.
"Cue" means "now is the time for X to happen or for this person to say this thing", and it's a theater term. That's where we get the expression "as if on cue" ("We started talking about Thor and, as if on cue, a lightning
strokestruck the telephone pole"). It means "the timing was so perfect, it felt like a theater director had told them to do that just then".Erantius ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:41:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
*struck
Jormungandrrrrrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:13 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Muphry's Law strikes again!
Thank you for that. I should really revise my conjugation, I swear I've forgotten a few irregular verb forms.
ENrgStar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:16:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Queue? Maybe.
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briannasaurusrex92 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:24:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
*Cue
ZooterOne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's the word that you've heard It's got groove, it's got meaning
Emaknz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Queue is a time, is a place, is a motion
Queue is the way we are feeling
deflation_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:39:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
GuruGuru214 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:41:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm dealing with the aftermath of a bad kitchen fire right now, and we've got two years to settle everything. This is good, since it's been seven months, we're still at least two months from moving back into the house and getting our cleaned items back, and we still haven't managed to secure a list of the items that were disposed of by the asbestos abatement crew. Other than what we saw destroyed, what we took with us, and what was in the basement, how much of our stuff is left is anyone's guess. Smoke damage and asbestos contamination are a bitch.
crypticedge ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 03:37:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shit like this is why when we evacuated for a hurricane we videotaped our entire home, including the contents of every drawer.
We had a full record of every single item that way
IIIpl4sm4III ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:22:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do insurance companies even cover wide spread disasters like that?
Qwerky_Name_Pun ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:22:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
As long as it's part of your policy they should have to. I believe people high risk areas have to pay more. My dad pays more than the people across the street because he has a creak in the backyard that (doesn't) has the ability to flood
crypticedge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but only if you have the right coverage for it. If you don't have flood insurance and the storm doesn't add a hole to your home then it's not covered, but if you have flood plus home owners or renters in Florida from a legitimate insurance Co, then you're covered entirely.
silverbullet52 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 03:45:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
1-1-78, 2am, I found myself standing naked in 8 inches of snow in my parents back yard holding my brother's stereo amp. Everyone was ok. I don't know how their claims eventually worked out. I took it as a sign it was time to get my own place.
Today, fire safe in the basement. In addition to paper records, there are scans of receipts and pictures of virtually everything of value I've bought or acquired since on a hard drive in that safe. A less extensive set of documents is on a thumb drive in my son's fire safe.
sheerluck_holmes ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:36:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's 2019, get that shit on the cloud
dragonlover02 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 12:32:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
While they should do that, they should also keep the drives safe. They will last a long time in case the cloud corrupts or the password is lost. A digital AND physical backup.
moonkeymaker127 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:15:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is the way to roll, on site back up, off site back up, and cloud back up.
MiataCory ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:27:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
321 backup.
3 copies of all your data. 2 are local (but on different devices). 1 is offsite.
Standard strategy for IT departments everywhere.
Ahielia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:57:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It should be, sometimes it's not. I immediately thought of this video.
necromantzer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:36:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fire safes are designed to withstand certain temperatures for only a specific amount of time. Some may only be rated for a half an hour. If the fire started in the basement (say, the furnace), it is possible your fire safe and the contents will be destroyed. I suggest looking into a safety deposit box as a way to safeguard anything of high value (if you don't trust cloud storage).
silverbullet52 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:56:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Heat rises. Survived a first hand look at a basement fire. Current house is 400m from a fire station. Short of nuclear war, my fire safe and contents will survive (water tight as well).
necromantzer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:13:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A house across the street from a fire station can burn down completely. There are many components that will impact a house fire, and many components that will dictate how long your safe will actually last. The only true way to guarantee safety of [digital] assets is backup offsite. There's a reason that is a critical step in every security/disaster recovery plan in existence.
silverbullet52 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thumb drive at my son's house
HuckleCat100K ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Amp but not your clothes? Love your priorities.
silverbullet52 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:40:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You had to be there. 2am new years day. Asleep, more than a little buzzed. Younger brother tore the door off my room in the basement and announced "Time to leave... take this" Handed me the amp. Flames licking at my heels on the way up and out. It took a few seconds standing in the snow to realize what was happening. Fortunately, clothes in my unlocked van in the driveway.
HuckleCat100K ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:48:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not criticizing. Thatโs the kind of thing Iโd likely do. Iโve never been in that situation so I imagine Iโd grab the first thing I saw that I valued, think about taking the second, then come to my senses and run.
mrkramer1990 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:01:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt count on the fire safe working all that well. Some relatives had one when they lost their house in one of the California fires, and all the papers inside were destroyed. Some gold coins/jewelry survived inside though.
mhswift ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:34:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Another thing that I thought that guy said, but I don't see it: When you are making lists, including links to replacement items because that is part of the approver's job and they get a bonus for doing the lists fast - so if you do it for them, you have a high chance of getting approved because they get a bonus for doing it fast.
VaginalOdour ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:58:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I never would have thought of this kind of thing, this is really good information. Is it the same process for all insurance companies? What about in different countries outside of the USA?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
In the uk itโs very similar on the consumers end of them finding like for like only if you give them details. Friend had a claim that involved a mulberry hand bag for example and they had a photo of it but they no longer made one at the price point. Insurance paid out on an as close to replacement that was ยฃ1000+ more expensive.
WorkForce_Developer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:19:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm glad u/dumbledoor saved this but everyone should really be giving gold and the other coins to u/0102030405 who actually wrote the post. Are you people even paying attention?
0102030405 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:54:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Actually it was /u/1020304050 (confusing, I know, with me the zeroes start first). So the person above credited me, but should have credited the person with my mirror username. I don't want any fame or gold or to have my inbox blown up with mentions haha.
dumbolddoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
THANK YOU. Sorry /u/0102030405
copemakesmefeelgood ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:27:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Scrolling down to see it someone had posted this yet!
Blue2501 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:39:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How does it work with stuff that depreciates relatively quickly? For example, my PC. It's homebuilt, and I'd assume I should list every component. But the processor in it is an i7-2700K, which launched in Q4'11 at $350ish and the only way to replace it now is to buy a used one at $130-ish on ebay or elsewhere. Should something like that be covered at its MSRP ($350), cost for an equivalent-performance modern part (several new parts you could pick between $150 and $250, depending on how you measure), cost for the equivalent part in Intel's lineup (aka the best 'consumer' i7, which would presently be the i7-9700K at $400), or something else? There's just so many ways you could go with that, and that's not even getting into equivalent parts from AMD. And that's only one component out of more than a dozen if I itemize it out.
Arammil1784 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:43:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
From what I gather, they only have to provide you with the cash value of a currently available equivalent.
In Other words, if you documented that you have an i7-2700k 3.5ghz quad core processor... they might give you enough money for the cheapest possible current equivalent. I.e. somewhere in the neighborhood of $200 for a new quad core i5 @ 3.5ghz.
They won't actually buy the item. they're only obligated to provide enough money to purchase a new functionally equivalent item (or so it seems to me).
dumbolddoor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:16:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ask /u/0102030405 lol. Sorry /u/0102030405 for tagging you so much.
SuspiciousParsley ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:09:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Could you just say PC - I7 Intel processor. And you demand that you want an I7 - What I7 they replace it is not your problem??
edit: for punctuation
BernieSanders46 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:03 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
mark every specific part. in this case you would want 'replacement cost' insurance which would be the cash to replace the item, not the current depreciated price of the item.
many policies offer this but it is not the standard, you might have to opt for it and pay a higher premium. it is almost ALWAYS the way to go for computers if you are building them yourself. i have a 10 year old i7 which is a beast and it cost me $4000. im fairly sure to replace it would be $4000 even today. so i would get to build whatever i want since on my policy i have replacement cost for electronics.
same goes for my video games. i have original games nintendo - present. some of the JRPGs on psx sell for $200-$300 a piece. i dont want a $5 voucher for a download. i dont want the 'greatest hits' version' i want it replaced. so i have that coverage on all my electronic type of stuff.
you dont want cash value coverage which is cheaper. you want it replaced and functioning just as before. since its a custom build and they cant just buy one they will prolly fork over the full original cost or close to it.
sticky_lemon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:59:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I had the money to guild you, you absolute legend. This is great information
dumbolddoor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:20:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
/u/0102030405 is legend
CommercialAd ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:39:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Also do this professionally and 70% of what this person says is accurate.
Not really sure what side of the insurance business this commenter was/is on, but it doesnโt really make sense. Unless it was a direct writer, if he/she was working at an insurance company, with this mindset, Iโm not sure what their role would be. Maybe Loss Control services? It sounds like he/she is/was a claims adjuster... the same person the commenter vilified...?
Regardless, definitely inventory everything you have thatโs of reasonable value. Good fucking luck pegging the insurance company for every tiny value - they will get annoyed and shit WILL happen. Write $5 soaps down and it will cost you in mental anguish and potentially with your claim payout - guaranteed.
I would recommend keeping an up to date inventory that is updated roughly 4 times a year or when big purchases are made.
The real remedy is working with a broker/agent you trust who manages your risk adequately while keeping information current. If you have the right broker/agent along with the right policy, youโll be fine.
Tl;dr Also in the insurance space. Slightly confused with the comment. Inventory shit over ~$50 depending on what policy you have and what shit you have. Have people you trust. Duh.
Edit - Really surprised how many people werenโt aware of maintaining personal inventories for their insured property. If anyone has questions, feel free to reach out and slide in the DMs. Would love to help anyone I can with this!
0102030405 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:29:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Hi everyone! I didn't originally write this, thanks for posting it but I should try to find the original person! Sorry if I misrepresented that way back when.
Edit: I thought I copied the old post for someone else, but it turns out our usernames are just similar. Please reach out and credit /u/1020304050 not me thanks!
pilotdog68 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at that guy's post history, he's apparently had a lot of very different jobs.
I forget not everyone on the internet is 25.
0102030405 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
He's a much cooler person (and likely older with more life experience) than I am. So he deserves the gold.
Also happy cake day!
Javad0g ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the clarification, I reached out to him to thank him for that original post. It made a huge difference in our own personal lives during the Santa Rosa northern California fires.
0102030405 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:13 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Im so glad to hear, I hope you and your family are safe and rebuilding.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:51 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
30-ish. Still haven't figured out what I want to be when I grow up.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:21 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
https://tenor.com/XE21.gif
0102030405 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:21 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha love this!
lovellama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It was from u/1020304050. Here's their original post. :)
0102030405 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I was SO confused and didn't know if maybe I copied this one (or commented on it or something) from way back when, because I know I didn't write it. It's just a mirror username issue, makes sense.
fadedabc ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:21:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for taking time out to say this.
gvyledouche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
it's a copy pasta, but yeah it's good info
sraperez ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:13:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for forwarding this post. My girlfriends house caught on fire a few months ago and we used this copypasta to deal with her insurance company. Really came in handy as we had no idea how to go about properly itemizing everything she lost.
Now, thanks to you, OP will also have the same invaluable information : )
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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delciotto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:12:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Question, how do they deal with things that are unique 1 off things, but have a MSRP, liek some collectables. Would they just give the MSRP value of the item or the aftermarket value.
Arammil1784 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:50:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If what the post says is true, though, isn't it better to not have serial numbers and reciepts?
I mean, I just bought a 4k tv on sale for $230, but it ordinarily retails at $450. If I had the receipt, it sounds like I would only get $230 regardless of the retail price. If I have the serial number, and not the receipt, they might give me the exact value of this now outdated tv which could be say.. $200. Which isn't going to be enough to get a new equivalent replacement.
Like, I'm not interested in massively screwing them out of money, but after a fire I'm needing / wanting / hoping for equivalent replacement. Im not trying to get a new 20k super tv twice the size of my current one. I just need a replacement 40 (?) Inch 4k. After all, that's what I thought I was paying my insurance company for.
ningirl42 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:20:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
After my house was destroyed by a rampaging roommate. (We were homeless for 5 weeks because it was so trashed) it took months to get the insurance to pay and they fucked me hard. Do what this guy says. Be meticulous. I found out when I took my ruined/shattered makeup to the Lancรดme counter at Dillardโs that I had $3000 worth of make up. That made up for a lot of stuff they just blew off. Plus we had to kennel our 8 pets At their $15 a day figure, but my folks sheltered them so I was happy to present them with that fat check (4 months later).
inanycasethemoon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:57:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Also you want to check BEFORE anything happens to see if you stuff is insured for Actual Cash Value or Replacement Cash Value. ACV is going to give you what that 5 year old TV is worth today, not what it will cost to get a new one. RCV is going to get you money to buy a new TV and donโt get me started on depreciation.
Tkade14 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:00:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
There's an important step missing here... Before there is a fire or a claim... You need to make sure your insurance has adequate coverage. It may only cost 100$/year to move your personal property coverage from 70k to 120k. Which can make a huge difference come claim time.
TheSwoleSurgeon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:49:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not all heroโs wear capes. This guy just wears a 1x fleece cape w/ wool from Blessed Nordic Sheep, but also from Nordstrom, engraved silk hood w/ built in leather cowl, led shoulder buckles with incremental flash oscillators, and limited edition seamless polyester weed-bag holster.
MiNdOverLOADED23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Does amazon archive carry any weight? What about credit card statements?
Estraxior ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:32:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wow wth this is actually really neat. Thanks for bringing up the comment again!
PhantomOSX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:40:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't quite understand that loophole about the camera thing.
Arch__Stanton ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:35:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
from what I understand, he had a piece of hardware with an obsolete feature that wasn't present on anything that was being manufactured at the time except for some high end industry-level machine as a catch-all. The insurance company was required to provide a new replacement with all of the listed features of the damaged item, so they had no option but to shell out 65k for the one thing on the market that had that specific feature. I might have misinterpreted though
LyrEcho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:48:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
GOod god man Ihope i never have to use this post. But damn it if I don't save this my place is burning down tomorrow.
Darkid94 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:21:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre the honest Saul Goodman Iโve always needed.
Actually, now that I think about it he voiced a insurance agent named Chase on Bobโs Burrgers.
Also crooked character.
But thatโs not you, you handsome son of a motherlover. Thank you for being professional yet straight forward. As someone who has no idea how the insurance world really works and didnโt feel like reading a bunch of Mumbo jumbo and getting finessed by insurance.
superminaren ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:25:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For someone who has lost two houses in arson I can tell you that this is the way to go.
dumbolddoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Man, who did you piss off?!
PlagueDrsWOutBorders ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:30:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just wanted to chime in and say thank you for this. I'm closing on a house in a few weeks and I plan to start itemizing as I move in and keep a running list as I acquire unnecessary things in my life.
BernieSanders46 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
cuisinart brick oven master race reporting in. once you try it you wont use any other toaster oven.
i am a forensic accountant too which seems like what you do but a bit different. i do business losses not personal. occasional fires and hurricanes but mostly business losses and interruption.
for people who have not had a fire yet i got some more protips. this write up was very good and i enjoyed seeing that side of the business. i figured id share some ways to be proactive.
i keep a spreadsheet. it has all furniture, home items, and electronics i have purchased in it and the date of purchase, store used, and price. sometimes i mark how i paid too. i dont bother with all receipts, but i will mark down things that are customized. my credit card has a bulk of the purchases and very rarely will i take a picture of a receipt. i do save them tho but they would burn up if it was a huge fire. on my electronics i will mark hard drive size, or for a computer i will list full specs and the price i paid for each part. this also helps me decide how much coverage i need.
i keep pictures and videos for other items. for my video games (way to many) and books (also way to many) i just take a photo every few months so you can clearly see the names and types. i like deluxe editions and i will get the hardcover over paperback so i make sure that shows. i also do pictures of artwork and memorabilia and have those prices memorized because i dont have a ton of it. if you are buying a lot of that type of stuff plus paying for framing etc i would spreadsheet it.
for clothing i just do short videos of my wardrobe every few months. i never buy anything too expensive but i have my clothes separated in the closet work/fancycasual/tshirts so its easy to see roughly how many nice/mediocre/cheap stuff i have. sneakers/ties too that stuff adds up. it also has my linens. if you spend thousands of dollars on that stuff you should want to replace it all so document it.
im in a condo so i have no tips on home improvement type of stuff. but again i would think heavy documentation and spreadsheets are the way to go. with good tables you can even put the photos of the receipts in there and link them to the main spreadsheet. even have a photo of the item (say fancy wood cabinets) for proof.
of course the most important thing is to have that folder auto save to cloud or just do it on google docs.
read and understand your policy. know if your getting replacements or the cost or what and how much coverage you have. once you understand how policies work its easy to skim through them each time you need a new one.
homad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:55:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Can you speak to digital losses at all]? photos/movies/[whole season of the series MTV's "The head" or every episode of Nickelodeons' Rocko's Modern Life or The Adventures of Pete and Pete "collectible content" etc.?
angelsandairwaves93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Post saved. Thank you young lady
sanzo2402 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, this is amazing. I'm saving this comment.
Hockeyboy540 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:54:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I save that comment every time I see it. Amazingly helpful and itโs our job to keep it handy in case anyone needs it.
danzig-queen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Tl dr but saw "insurance" so it's some useful shit, gonna upvote
DannieJ312 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve seen this posted before. Itโs a great reminder to have. Iโm going to save it this time.
melloyello51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dude I have to give you credit. That was a solid write up and a cool thing to do.
Javad0g ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:48:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I saved this exact same thread comment back when he made it as well. And I have shared it multiple times especially being out here in California where we personally have had many friends and family in the last couple years lose everything.
That post has made a huge difference in some of my own family and friends lives and I am eternally grateful he took the time to write it.
I really need to reach out to him personally and thank him.
dumbolddoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. See /u/0102030405 - you're still helping so many!
DeadlyMidnight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks so much for this info. Not only is it great for OP but for everyone to know! Iโm glad I have renters insurance for this kind of thing and would never think of not having coverage for my home. Itโs to valuable and loosing it all is so deveststing.
You are a hero for sharing
dumbolddoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:06:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've saved few comments here and there over the years and this is one I always remember. I'm glad I could help.
shea241 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:59:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I have a workshop with electronic components, modules, super specialized tools, and so on. Literally thousands of items in one room, from $0.10 to $1500.
Have you ever seen a claim with that kind of ... specifity? Should I just take pictures of everything?
Also how does it work with things like prototypes, factory test runs, things that were never on the market but were certainly valuable ... but not sentential. Are they just set to $0 or do you try to find the nearest functionality item on the market?
GuruGuru214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:05:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm currently at this stage in dealing with a kitchen fire that's had me out of my house for the last seven months. This is all really good to know right about now. Thanks!
Dyolf_Knip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Been there, gone through this. Crazy ex of the guy my mom was dating torched our house when I was in high school. Was structurally ok, but smoke damage gutted the inside and destroyed all the stuff.
The insurance company gave us sheets to list all our belongings. Specifically, they gave us like 5 sheets, each with lines for maybe 15 items. Lol to that. We put everything on a spreadsheet, down to the tubes of chapstick.
noa01101000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Also have this saved, such a great bit of information.
MissusBeeAlmeida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thats some good info right there. Saving this, god forbid I ever need it. So sorry OP.
Fyrestar333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Would they get reimbursed for their "updates"?
notLOL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So take pictures now and store it on Facebook. Which ulpt would end up getting stolen by facebook stalkers
decoste94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm gonna save this and hope I never need to use it...
359noscope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just going to prepare a 10 pages long list in case anything like this happens now..
flamethekid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeeeeeep I'm just gonna save this post for now good advice
aeiousometimesy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. I mean I hope my house never burns down, but thank you for this. Truly a champion of the people.
Rekkas_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You are a Boss sir! Good info
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Will receipts be the ultimate trump over all of this stuff? Or are they irrelevant ?
ZeroMasters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You...you have inspired me to take a shit ton of photos of my shit and catalog everything I own that doesn't spoil.
Brotosteronie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Saving this
hotpinkrazr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:03 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Brb burning my house down
HeadlineINeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely saving this.
heiny002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget all the damage from smoke (odors too). You can get new carpets and drapes and clothing and towels if simple dry cleaning won't suffice as fabrics hold onto the smells.
FightTheFallen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Saved. This is extremely helpful knowledge.
MythicTy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a bit late, but is this a thing in England or only the US?
FreeSammiches ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've been looking for this old post. I couldn't remember what they key words were.
havocgoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They're experts, Bob! Experts!
Method6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Helping out a stranger in need - priceless
Zalek1n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Commenting to retrieve later if needed - Insurance advice.
BrainbellJangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:03 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Came here looking for the cause of the fire. If itโs in the comments, I didnโt scroll down far enough. Yet, I left much wiser.
Thank you for this information!
uGotaBeCritingMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So that's why insurance is so expensive.
hundrafemtio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
but this only applies to America doe..
jadoug02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm going to burn down my house.
backtoril ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What always perplexed me is what happens with collectible items? Like if someone had one of the first edition rare Charizard Pokemon cards, would the insurance company be able to pay for a replacement?
aspenglade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Some insurance companies require you to either have a separate policy rider for these sorts of things or you have to have them well documented and shown on file with them.
VikingUthred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dude u gonna be a blessing for this dude.
Pimp_Master_Flex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The higher the claim is, will that increase your insurance payments?
WhaleLord_OverLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think Iโm going to take pictures of my entire house to document this shit now
AintNobodyReally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Such a great comment.
Solid advice.
I applaud you and the guy that originally created it.
pacoman432 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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nocontroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If like 90% of whatโs in your house was ordered from amazon would your buying history and a quick walkthrough video of your home count as a legitimate list?
BernieSanders46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
with credit card receipts yes. i can almost guarantee 90% of your house is not amazon tho.
you buy furniture computers and clothes from amazon too?
nocontroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well I live in a loft and yeah...easily 90% was bought online. Even a lot of my clothes (though usually not from amazon). And my desk and chairs and things are from amazon. All my video games and systems, and stereos, appliances, yeah, they have a shit ton of stuff on there Iโm really thinking at least 90%. Not my couch or carpet or bed or mattress but mostly everything else
BernieSanders46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
yea im in the same sort of business as this poster so i think my advice is solid.
i would say to be safe take some photos. if you make a list now you can just add on to it as you grow into bigger living spaces and more items.
its better safe than sorry, and you dont want to be questioned on actually owning it or not. if you have the photos/list you can use the receipts as proof of price etc. just bite the bullet and take a few hours one weekend to mark it up. especially if you like your stuff.
yea its not a big deal if you are young... but if you get in the habit now it will be super easy to maintain later.
Gemini_Gypsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I actually had my house catch on fire and my great uncle owns an insurance company. He actually stated these exact points but if you can hire a reputable third party to do a through inventory they usually take 10% off the top of the total claim or so therefore they will try to get the maximum value. Took a lot of stress off my parents especially because we had to replace a bunch of important documents and we lost our animals in the fire.
foolishnhungry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So question, because Iโm young and know nothing about insurance: is this reimbursement on top of the value of your house? Like if my house was valued at 300K and then I claim everything in the house, that is is provided as well?
valiamo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on the insurance you purchase, you should have a value to replace the physical dwelling (does not include the property value), and then a value to replace the contents of your house.
Mine, I think, is $500 K total - $360K for my house and around $90K for possessions, $40K for additional living expenses, $10K for outside structures.
There is a big difference between "replacement value and insured value"
NorthernLaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Saved
brewhead55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait- I'm confused. You could claim all these things, sure... but doesn't it depend on the amount of coverage you pay for? i.e. to totally rebuild your covered up to XX amount. To replace its content you are covered XX amount. So you could list up to that amount, but after that you are SOL.
Any info is appreciated, I just thought that's how it worked??
dumbolddoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not my original comment, I tagged /u/0102030405 who was the original writer
lovellama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
u/1020304050 (zero at the end, not the beginning) was the OP. :)
Here's the original post from /r/personalfinance .
dumbolddoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
THANKS
davethegamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when the was first posted! I think I save it too years ago!
KingKudzu117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
OP hire this dude.
dazzan2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not all heroโs have capes
The-Scarlet-Witch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Seconding this as someone who had an insurance claim due to storm damage. It helped I moved less than a year before and did an overly itemized list of everything that went into each box. Explicitly laying out most items you have is a treasure trove when it comes to replacement. Being detailed is a smart thing to do!
To tackle this, set up a GDoc spreadsheet and go room by room in your house. You can combine this with decluttering/spring cleaning. Don't try to tackle the project in an entire weekend, but doing it as you tidy up and can commit a solid one to two hour block is key.
You'll also be surprised how much stuff you own afterward. Readjust your insurance based on value accordingly. This is especially true if you've not adjusted your house insurance/renter's insurance in a while and lived at your home for more than two years or had a major life change (like a spouse/partner joining you, new kid, etc.).
DankestAcehole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've already saved this two times but I'll save this one as well. Can never be too careful and prepared. Thanks
Arktiki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
r/vip
boredjustbrowsing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
looks like you've redeemed yourself with this post and have gotten some good karma. *nudges you on the chin*
littlejack59 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well that sucks
shwudifrurb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Wow thanks. What would you do if most of your furniture is hand made. Like my coffee table for example, I spent 70 hours at least making it out of scraps. Also if you need a few extra bucks, just say you had a few Pendleton wool shirts.
mscogna4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Props to you for offering help but talk about short and concise.
xkyouchoux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a question for you, do email receipts count when it comes to getting the value of an item? Like say if I have the exact items bought for a computer, could I provide pictures of those invoices to prove I actually payed that much?
FeatofClay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
FWIW-- a few years ago we had flooding and had an insurance claim. We had a wall's worth of Ikea bookcases that were damaged. it was easy enough to document their replacement cost. But there was the building of the things.
When we had acquired them the first time, my spouse was on furlough and was happy enough to spend three days putting them all together, but now we were both working, full time. Our adjuster added some money that would cover hiring some cheap labor to put them together.
beingforthebenefit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting how you call the โfire truck chasersโ evil, but go on to say how your company tries itโs hardest to fuck over people who have just lost everything and had insurance, meaning you legitimately owe them the proper value.
Inorganicx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Does this information hold up in Canada? Iโm from Saskatchewan and have thought about doing this and this post is a great motivator.
Zupheal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do people offer this service? Because I would pay for this service to not have to do this myself.
Naked_Melon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you spend so much time typing all of that?
dumbolddoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't . I copy pasted .
porelamordelsol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:10 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey I think this is the job I would get with my degree in risk management and insurance!
JackieBronassis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:20 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
R/bestof
gabe4000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:58 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! What a master piece! Bravo bravo I say! Definitely going to save.
WW-OCD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:12 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for saving and reposting this comment I too am gonna save this comment this was super informative and useful information! Thanks guy!
bronzecarrot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:49 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is beautiful thank you.
hitaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:33 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I saw this comment like several months ago. Didnโt know some comments last and get circulated so long on reddit
marke812 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:08 on January 21, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
๐๏ธ<-- poor man's gold for you
Unknown-Tru7h ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:16 on January 23, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve seen this exact advice play out. Somebody I know went from having a shithole TV to a curved 70inch display without dropping a dime, because there was a mini-fire that ruined his basement.
Thatโs just one item, itโs crazy how much stuff he got upgraded because of it.
SinghinginNYC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:24 on March 7, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
hibellagrace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:34 on March 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If I had the money, Iโd give you Gold for this. Thank you for taking the time to write out this advice!
namedan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is like Mr. Incredible not saying how to claim insurance. Amazing.
[deleted] ยท 3882 points ยท Posted at 23:19:55 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Angie_MJ ยท 1230 points ยท Posted at 00:35:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It is. They listen to the police scanners and a bunch of these so called insurance adjusters just show up passing out cards and trying to insert themselves on the scene. Itโs really unsettling. Also listening, are people who work in the business of boarding homes, demolition, and clean up. Theyโll have you agreeing to jobs and contracts while youโre still emotionally reeling from your loss.
JawaharlalNehru ยท 238 points ยท Posted at 02:22:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What's the scam though? How do they make money?
Conical ยท 291 points ยท Posted at 02:25:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My guesses are collecting and selling information, asking for upfront payments for 'fees' and straight up looting under the guise of investigating
zdark10 ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 03:32:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine they try and convince people to pay insurance deductibles too
ecodude74 ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 02:44:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โAlright, we just need a $100 filing fee, and an extra fifty for processing your claim and weโll be all set!โ
KoolKarmaKollector ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 02:25:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You pay them money for "insurance" and they run off
Bearsandgravy ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:33:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen board ups charge o&p, I've seen public adjusters forge insureds signatures to say they're representing them, I've talked to people who claim to be the fire marshal...some people are jackals. Insurance companies aren't just out to screw you over. They're there to protect you as well. Source: former property claims adjuster.
Jezzibylle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:46:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Any tips on what to look out for or how to avoid being taken advantage of?
Bearsandgravy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:23:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Talk to the insurance company directly. Sometimes shady contractors will show up and say the insurance sent them. They'll get you to sign stuff or will start working. Anytime someone claims to be from the insurance company, call and verify.
For getting a contractor, look locally. They should be licensed and insured. They should be willing to show you both. I'd recommend getting three quotes to see the range. Make sure the quotes are itemized. Square feet, line by line breakdowns, labor costs. So many of my insureds would turn in a piece of paper that said "repair roof, $8600" and would be mad that I needed more info.
The best analogy I can say is if you go to a grocery store, buy a cart of various groceries, but they don't give you a receipt, they just give you a post it that says $500. Would you pay that? No. So don't let a contractor do the equivalent when they're telling you what repairs will cost. They came up with that number from somewhere, they should be able to prove it.
This is just big red flag stuff. Theres a hundred other ways my insureds have gotten taken advantage of that I've seen. If you have a specific question, I can try to answer it.
PM_ME_YOUR_FUGACITY ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:45:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
"as well", GOOODDD BLLEESSS AMMEERRRIICCAAAA
foxiez ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:33:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They could be legit but also being super predatory too I guess
FROZEN_TURD_DILD0 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:41:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to Wells Fargo.
Cornpwns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Primarily by being the first to show up and having their dudes do the work(and get paid for it). Instead of allowing you to find a reliable contractor. Some more shady ones will steal your shit and bounce or ask for down payments and never show up.
Ay-Dee-AM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Obtaining SSNs is one thing that happens, I believe.
UrDeAdPuPpYbOnEr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The Santa Rosa fires were near where I live and people had to stand with guns to keep the scumbags at bay. I read that they do everything from identity theft to looking through the rubble for jewelry and bullion. The worst one was this really cute tiny Spanish style home across from the clover stornetta dairy processor had a handwritten sign saying โplease donโt go through this, whatever is here is all my parents have left.โ
TonyHK47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They make money by taking you on as a client and fluffing up everything you own to increase the insurance pay out, they then take a cut. Typically you will end up better off, but it will take a lot longer to get the claim sorted
Room_Temp_Coffee ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:22:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How exactly are they trying to scam us? What information are they trying to get?
USSLibertyLavonAfair ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 02:40:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Mainly it's to get you to accept a contract for "clearing debris" or "demolition". That is at an exorbitant rate that "Don't worry the insurance company will pay it"
Or it's I am from Cyaz consulting for a small fee I can be a 3rd party to insure you get the most out of your insurance claim you can never trust them ya know.! At Cyaz we keep overhead low and don't want to pass on payment processing fees on to you. So we accept cash only as payment.
Thank you for your payment CYAZ BITCHES! HAHAHAHAhahahaha...
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:33:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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PM_GPOY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The second was when he was laughing all the way up the stairs.
classicaudrey ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:19:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Usually the insurance people who show up are public adjusters - they take a percentage of the payout by guiding people through how to get as much money as possible from the victims actual insurance company, the scam is theres no real need for them so ultimately they just take part of the payout.
brownmagician ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:01:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
just like tow truck drivers.
The scum of the highway.
Trabethany ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:28:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When we had a small house fire, two restoration vultures showed up and started peddling their services to us as there was still smoke pouring out of our house.
Broduski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:58:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I work in this business. To be fair, the work has to get done at some point, and the faster you sign a contract the faster it goes. And there's really nothing to take advantage of, since we really wont do work that insurance doesn't approve and pay for anyways.
XeroSync13 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:30:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You da bad man? ๐
Darthvegeta81 ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 00:43:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I work for an insurance co and let me tell you they can absolutely save your life. I know no one likes us but as you said if thereโs a fire and you need your house rebuilt, a place to stay and need to buy new stuff most of it gets covered with the right policy
Lindt_Licker ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 01:54:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, but wouldnโt one need to have insurance before the fire to be covered? The leeches the OP was talking about are phonies, no?
Drewstom ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:13:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even get the scam, are people trying to sell you insurance after the fact or something?
blundercrab ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 02:21:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry you don't understand. This can be so confusing and I'm glad I'm here to help. Name's blundercrab, I'm a Professional Explainer on Reddit. I can use my years of experience to guide you through the process of this scam. Just sign this comment saying you'll give me an updoot and several Reddit currencies for my work and you'll never hear from me again cause that's a fake phone number and this is my alt account.
SuicideBonger ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:48:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
SuicideBonger
Updoot
Okay can you please explain this scam to me now??? The public adjusters have my wife and kids, and they said that if I don't tell them about the scam, they'll kill my family. Please sir I'm so thankful to have found you, can you help me out???
skinnah ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:28:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well first thing to understand is... hey what's that over there?! ๐๐จ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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SuicideBonger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no, I knew what it was, I was just making a funny!
TonyHK47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My bad
Lindt_Licker ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:19:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly Iโm lost in the sauce here.
u-no-u ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:24:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They're trying to get you to pay more for the work while you're still vulnerable. There's people that can help you get more money from your insurance claim as well and they charge you money for that service.
crd3635 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing I can think of is people trying to loot your shit under the guise of being an insurance adjuster
you-are-not-yourself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like they're trying to sign you up for services at fraudulent rates that insurance might not cover.
Justagreewithme ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:12:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, and then they sue your grandmother because she left a pot on the stove but technically sheโs not a resident so she isnโt covered. So now your grandmother has to sell all her belongings to pay back your insurance company and is destitute. Thank god for insurance!
EZ-PEAS ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:55:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The important factor isn't whether your grandmother is a resident or not, its whether she was negligent. If the homeowner and policy holder is negligent in burning down their house then most insurance policies aren't going to cover that either.
Insurance policies aren't a "get out of responsibility free" card. Most only cover accidental and unforeseeable damage. If someone causes damage that could have been foreseen, regardless of who that is, then they will probably be held responsible for the damage. That sucks when it's your family members, but that's how the world works.
Darthvegeta81 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:48:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yea thatโs not how it happens. Itโs not about people in those situations, itโs the even itself. If thereโs a fire regardless of fault (unless arson of course) itโs gonna be covered
Justagreewithme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, they will cover it. Then they will go after the party that caused the damages. This isnโt a made up story. It literally happened.
Darthvegeta81 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:59:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The 2 companyโs Iโve worked for have never done anything like that. Whatever company that did this is clearly a bottom feeding piece of shit co. Sorry this happened to you or whoever you know but fuck the co that did it
BrewsTheSkank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Please cite. Thx
mans_best_comrade ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:15:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you
Mochigood ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:33:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's shitty.
WaidWilson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody minds you guys, itโs the upset that gets buggy. I get life insurance through work. I get random calls from my agent trying to get me to sign up for million dollar life insurance, at โonly $200 a month.โ
Like yeah I appreciate the offer but I donโt have a million dollars worth of stuff and $200 a month is quite a bit extra right now. However Iโm happy to pay for insurance because when I needed it it was worth the pay.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:53:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you and no worries I'm in a good neighborhood
MCG_1017 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A good neighborhood doesnโt matter. The grifters will fund you.
Mochigood ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:31:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
After his house was gutted by fire, my dad's separate and un-burnt garage was totally ransacked. They also went through the house looking for any jewelry to sell for gold/silver weight.
Lord-Kroak ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:00:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Use to work with a guy who made it his thing to drive up to wildfires and rifle through peoples homes looking for valuables that survived.
I USE to work with him because he got arrested engaging in his lil' hobby. I wonder how prison is treating him.
Blackneto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:54:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Living through this right now. Insurance is paying for everything. House should be finished with restore in September.
notLOL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not on the day of the fire I suppose
MCG_1017 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it is a thing. The house next door to me burned, and we have to watch that place all the time because all sorts of weird people show up.
s0laris0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:12 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
the company we hired to clean our house after a fire almost ten years ago was a scam too. they were a well known company, so who could have known the "cleaners" were absolute shit human beings? they charged us for cleaning the most mundane things, very clearly didn't actually clean the soot off the walls, they stole thousands of dollars worth of toys and other items and the lawsuit against them never went anywhere. absolutely frustrating people.
[deleted] ยท 4606 points ยท Posted at 22:34:40 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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MuadD1b ยท 1249 points ยท Posted at 02:12:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No one hurt though? Youโre familyโs life is going to be real stressful and shitty for awhile but as long as everyone is alright thatโs what matters.
Could have happened while you were all in your beds.
If you have any photos from inside the house backed up on the cloud start going through them, save them in a file for the insurance, and start cataloguing all your belongings. Youโre family has paid for insurance, do your best to get every god damned cent from them.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 766 points ยท Posted at 02:50:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody got hurt thank god but half of house trashed
thrombolytic ยท 635 points ยท Posted at 03:05:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
There's a personal finance post from a year ago detailing how to get top dollar from insurance. Save this post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/a3zhsq/parents_house_burnt_down_now_what/ebaawnc
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I'm glad no one was hurt. I hope you didn't suffer a total loss for contents of the house. Use any resource available to you and accept help as you can, this is what those resources are there for.
HowTheyGetcha ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:17:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I followed this post when I had to make my own claims. A+, could not have been more satisfied.
Mr_TheKid ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 02:59:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And rest of house very smelly forever.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 223 points ยท Posted at 03:05:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Idk yet may have to tear it down due to smoke and water damage
[deleted] ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 03:42:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I used to work for a Fire and Flood Restoration company. All of our clients were insurance jobs with checks cut from the insurance company.
We would go in and remove all salvageable personal items including clothing and furniture. Everything was meticulously cleaned and stuck in a ozone room for several days to get rid of the smoke smell.
All of the carpet was tore out and any walls with water damage the drywall was removed. Everything was sprayed with microban (to kill mold) and contractors renovated the house.
All of the personal items that were unsalvageable were listed by us. If there's anything that you own that you really want to try to salvage the insurance company can pay a restoration service to remove the smoke smell and clean up the soot.
If you guys need any other assistance Reach Out to* Red Cross they will hook you up with clothing vouchers, grocery store vouchers and even a couple weeks in a hotel.
Make sure when you list items for the insurance company that were in the house and are damaged on your official forms... that you write the price it would cost to replace them, not what you actually paid for them.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 03:44:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
franklinbroosevelt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:09:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god Microban! Just reading the word makes the back of my throat itch
kilgoresparrot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For real.
kilgoresparrot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:24:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This, so much this.
A good restoration company is going to be on your side, especially when it comes to dealing with your insurance. That's how they get paid, after all.
I can't tell you how many times I got to a job and spent the entire first day dealing with a hostile homeowner.
Work with them and they will do everything they can to make things as painless as possible.
Uxoguy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:44:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You'll be surprised what a good restoration company can salvage. Keep your head up
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah
Uxoguy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:54:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For real, I was a firefighter and also a remediation project manager. We saved a LOT of homes that owners thought would be torn down. As long as the masonry isn't cracked and spauled up the framework can be cleaned and deoderized, drywall can be cleaned and repainted, even belongings can be restored.
I'm sorry this happened to you but please try to keep a positive attitude, your family will only benefit.
If you guys need insurance help or especially remediation help, please contact me anytime. I can look over adjusters quotes and remediation quotes, I know all the necessary billing codes and I'm fire restoration certified.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you I'll keep you in mind
AdjectiveNounCombo ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 03:06:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Water damage? But it was a fire.../s
Bombingofdresden ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:10:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The snow got in the holes the fire made
BitcoinOfTheRealm ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:24:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
wooosh
nahog99 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:51:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ironic.
troophtellah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:52:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
and the wind?
gilligan1050 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:53:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It was a wet fire
toodleroo ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:09:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fires have to be put out
gazetta22 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 03:14:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
But the firemen could've used their boots to stomp it out instead.
Tagracat ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:21:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or maybe some rakes.
UrectumAstronaut ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:27:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or maybe they could have blown on it really hard. I mean, blacksmiths used bellows to put out the coals at the end of the day. Why not just use air compressors instead of water? We could even use the same hoses
sh4rp5h00ter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Theyโre firemen, not wolves.
Gorillaz_Noodle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure if you're serious.
But introducing air / oxygen to a fire is a bad idea.
You're going to push fire and intensify it.
Just google what a wind driven fire is.
zalgo_text ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Narrator: he wasn't being serious
Gorillaz_Noodle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think it's common sense.
But I see firefighters on instagram try to re-invent the wheel and go with high PSI, low gallon per minute attack lines.
Or some other dumb shit like positive pressure ventilation.
https://www.firerescue1.com/videos/originals/1480477-Training-Positive-pressure-ventilation-mishap/
zalgo_text ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I mean that's nice and all but the entire thread was a joke
mac2861 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We usually go for leaf blowers.
DrXenu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Finally a republican comes in to give the real sensible answers to problems.
StopClockerman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:30:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone gets this wrong, but the best way to put out a house fire is to stop drop and roll around in it
tunedketamine ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 03:12:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, maybe that's why he put the /s there...
toodleroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that little /s is nearly invisible on mobile. But a lot of people probably don't consider the fact that the water it takes to put out a massive fire can do almost as much damage as the fire itself.
kate_L019 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:49:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
True. We had a fire on our roof and parts of the 2nd floor walls, but the firemen still had to douse the whole house. When we went inside after the fire, it looked like it was raining indoors from the flood upstairs :/
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 03:31:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Pinter_Ranawat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:47:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just glad we're at the point where we can all appreciate your tongue-in-cheek irony without you having to add the stupid /s.
auto-xkcd37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Bleep-bloop, I'm a bot. This comment was inspired by xkcd#37
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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AnewENTity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Actually the one you left was the pointless one
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Actually no. Thanks for not understanding how bringing attention to a negative thing isnt pointless. Wow. People are really something on this site.
jerkularcirc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Pipes also melt/burst
MISTAKES_were_MADE_2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Firefighters do use water to extinguish fire
1080ti_Kingpin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:40:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The amount of water required to put out a fire will always do more damage than the actual fire.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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MyClothesWereInThere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:12:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Whoosh to you
timmaaa710 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yea when my house went up it only got a couple rooms on the upstairs bad. But the water damage from the firefighters putting the fire out was crazy
KarmaChameliano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Looks pretty chilly too.
Water to ice damage :(.
Iโm so sorry, friend. :(
Hope you can regain the important things.
ywBBxNqW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hate that that's a thing. I hope we find a more innovative way to put out fires in the future. Successfully quelling a house fire only to demolish it later due to water damage seems like such a Pyrrhic victory.
glacierfanclub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We had the exact same thing happen last year. A company called servicemaster oxidized a lot of personal belongings and we got them back, hopefully thatโs the same for you. As in furniture, books, clothes, etc. They had to take our house down to the studs and it was a long year, but if you have good insurance youโll be ok. Sorry this happened to you.
peeves91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Tip, the water damage will be there forever. You will never get rid of it. It will always be there. Get a fresh start.
Treworthya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Haha my dude my house recently went on fire very similar to how yours looks. Your WHOLE house is going to be gutted and rebuilt. Absolutely nothing will be left of the original.
trippingchilly ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:03:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So it's half as smelly as my house
MuadD1b ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โThis too, shall pass.โ
Whenever I find myself beset by difficulty I remember where my Gramps was when he was my age, being bombarded by the fucking Germans in World War 2.
Always remember that you are descended from some tough stuff.
free112701 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Glad no one got hurt. I sooooo hope you have decent insurance
---Help--- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Smoke damage. 100% of the house got trashed.
DongWithAThong ยท 187 points ยท Posted at 02:55:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is an important point! Go through any and every picture you can find and document your belongings. But when you document your belongings don't just say "toaster" because you will get some $10 goodwill price of shit toaster. Be a bit more specific. Especially on your expensive items.
And if you do most of the insurance companies work and xatelogue nearly everything they are more likely to approve your write offs due to the amount of time you saved them from having to deal with it.
This exact thing happened in my buddies barn. He had a huge barn that he stored EVERYTHING in. From his winter tires to his ice fishing rods. Lucky for him he had parties in his backyard that also involved his barn so he had tons of recent photos of everything. He spent a few weeks going through every photo and pulling all his Amazon orders/receipts and documented everything. He ended up making out very well because they just approved nearly everything he catelogued
It's shitty but well worth it.
Tagging /u/tardmcgee so you see this incase it's helpful. Sorry about the shitty situation tho
mreid74 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 03:03:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This! List EVERYTHING you can think of that you owned, even if you didn't care about it. All of the things you hated or didn't care about turns into $ and you can turn $ into things that you do care about. Take care and I hope your situation gets much better very soon. We turned out much better after our fire, but I definitely would NOT do it again.
PossiblyFuckReddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:12:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
250 xbox one and 360 games/ps3 at full price an xbox one a ps3 2xbox 360s 4 controllers per console,a nintendo switch, an original in box sony playstation my nintendo gamecube with 45 games, nintendo wii with 14 games, an partial collection of around 115 skylanders figures at 14.99 a piece, random anime figurines, posters 200 dollar bed 150 dollar memory foam matress a cheapo 100 dollar futon, 500 bucks worth of books a 1200 dollar gaming computer fuck 150ish games on that alone 3 lcd tvs of varying sizes from 36" to 64" 50 dollar furlined hoodie, my desk ive had since i was 6 a black snap together shelf, my cabinet with all my socks and stuff in it. 200-300 bucks worth of clothes (i mean i dont really need many clothes but if your replacing ALL of my clothes i lost and not the outfits i wore kay) nice silk sheets (maroon) 2 fur blankets (ones fake fur ones supposed to real but it definetly feels fake af) and thats just in my room! my money when i was working went exclusively to food and gaming in my offtime.
mreid74 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
List it all and don't amazon list it. Put the recent retail values of all the stuff you lost. If you have half a decent insurance company, the replacements are not what you paid, but what it would cost you to replace the same exact things. Cite your sources just like writing a college paper.
JessesEGOisYUUUGE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You need to be way more specific
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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mreid74 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:18:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We got a smaller, cozier home and furnishings. I wouldn't ever go through the process of being homeless, having to gather whatever was salvageable, having a near death experience, redoing everything, experiencing crazy stress, and my kitty died. You happy now? Conspiracy theorist. Screw you right now for making me remember that. I don't know why I replied.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:05:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
superfucky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Best bet is to look for an online listing of something similar but a bit pricier. Insurance won't give you 100% of the list price. Had to do this when my converted garage room flooded a few years back.
Stymie999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If I wasnโt so lazy, and actually had that many valuable things to worry about... this day and age, I would just take pictures along with the list...lots and lots of pictures. Not only documents somewhat the make and model, but added benefit of being documentation it was in the House.
StartsWithFuckYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, you can't imagine how much this scenario worries me. I always worry about coming home to my house burned down and learning that my cats died a painful and frightening death.
Cthula-Hoops ยท -35 points ยท Posted at 02:39:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Just one of lifes little adventures
Edit: Apparently euphemistic agreement is unacceptable.
jimlee13 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:49:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Im really confused why you got downvoted so quickly. Thanks reddit Hope everyone was safe though, you guys gotta stay positive. Always bring one postive to every negative.
1jl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:53:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit loves a good stoning
jimlee13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dont we all?
Cthula-Hoops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:21 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't realize this is where all the autistic kids hang out.
coonhoundrebel ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 02:56:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
As horrible as this situation was, the point of insurance is to indemnify the OP for the damages they incurred. The notion that people should suck every cent out of insurance is the exact reason people end up complaining about high prices of insurance in the first place. That mentality is part of the problem.
MrQuizzles ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:04:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What? No. The point of it is to make you whole again.
This isn't a personal liability claim, so there's no indemnification going on.
coonhoundrebel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The definition of indemnification is to make one whole, the term is not associated with either one exclusively. Whether it is liability or property as in this case, insurance served to indemnify.
ontopofyourmom ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:05:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Insurance fraud is a problem.
Ensuring you get what is contractually owed to you is not a problem.
That's what the insurance companies themselves do.
katiriehl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think anyone suggested they exaggerate their loss. Pictures, receipts, and specific brand/models of items lost help to recoup exactly what was lost, not make a profit.
tutetibiimperes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt see anyone advocating doing anything like that. You absolutely should hold the insurance company accountable to replace anything that was damaged or destroyed with something as similar to the original item as possible, and having documentation of what those items were helps do that.
The insurance company isnโt your friend. Theyโll happily take your premiums year after year but will try to lowball replacement items if you arenโt specific. If you lost an 82โ Samsung TV you should get money to replace it with an 82โ Samsung TV, not a 55โ Vizio.
Diarrhea_Dragon ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 02:33:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Building contractor who is currently repairing his own house after a fire here. This sucks. PM me if you'd like some friendly advice. Maybe I can help make it suck a bit less.
LoquendoLauta ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 02:21:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is everyone OK?
razors99 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:33:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
OP said thankfully nobody was hurt in another thread
Chilipepah ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 02:53:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
But what if someone is hurt in this thread?
GiverOfTheKarma ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:02:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I stubbed my toe this morning :/
crackeddryice ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:05:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My walkway is a bit icy, I almost slipped when getting the mail.
razors99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Then I hope they get better :)
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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CompDuLac ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:19:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a veteran by chance? Or someone who lives in the house?
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:23:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No but my mother is a former federal Marshal
CompDuLac ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:28:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They might have some kind of program. I belong to a veterans non-profit organization, unfortunately we stick to helping veterans. I would've reached out to your local chapter.
I'm truly sorry about what you are going through.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:29:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you anyway
CompDuLac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome. I wish you the best.
PissedSCORPIO ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 03:28:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just look on the bright side...you heating bill was a tad bit cheaper for a moment.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:30:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Rip
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:30:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What caused the fire?
logan5156 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:36:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When listing all the stuff you had to be replaced by insurance be incredibly specific. A toaster could be a $5 nothing from wal mart, but if it was a cuisinart compact cool touch toaster it would have been $50. They will give you the least they possibly can so you have to do the best you can. I'm sorry for you and all you lost, and all the things you can't replace.
bigboi1310 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:32:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I had a fire back in August 2017. Really sucked, especially since I was the one to discover it. You never fully recover from it but trust me, things will get better. Also I was 13 at the time sooo... not fun. I know how you probably feel! Best of luck to you!
CornTransplant ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:13:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre 14. Youโll recover dude.
bigboi1310 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:19:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
15 actually and yeah eventually maybe. But itโs pretty rough and everyone is different!
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 03:37:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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sh0uri ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:50:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Seemed like an adult perspective to me. "You never fully recover" from a now-15 year old. Little dramatic. Him and his roommates will be setting their dorm on fire trying to make popcorn in 3 years.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:56:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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CornTransplant ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:20:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Bingo
bigboi1310 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not likely, Iโm terrified of fire and am too much of a loser to have friends.
CornTransplant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When you're 15 everything seems like the worst thing in the world and you'll be scarred for life because of it.
If life were a novel, high school would be the prologue.
Or if you like video games...
It would be the tutorial.
Nemesis519 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, you're young. Life gets better.
bigboi1310 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, Iโm at the age of self loathing so itโs hopefully just a phase, so wish me luck! ๐
CornTransplant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt think you know what gatekeeping is.
Iโm saying theyโre young, itโs too early to say you never really get over something
bigboi1310 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:00:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
True it is too early, Iโve just also met former victims who felt the same way. Trauma is different for everyone so I could fully recover and so could OP!
RZYao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait you're like the same age as me hopefully my house doesn't burn as a curse or something
InsaneAsFuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
There's alot of people his age. Don't think when have an arson armageddon either right now so you're probably going to be okay!
RZYao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hope so
ColeSloth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:04:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No neighbors? That thing would have been going for quite a while in that pic, and the fire department isn't even there yet.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:10:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's in the middle of winter and in work hours so it took a while for people to notice
aridax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. How did you and your family find out?
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:24:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We have a potion of our house as an office with a Fulltime employee, she heard the fire alarm and went to check and saw the house pitch black with smoke.
aridax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no! That's terrifying! But also it sounds like maybe that was good--was she the one to call the fire department?
khaotickk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:02:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My heart goes out to you OP.
When she was nine, my fiance lost 3 of her siblings in a tragic house fire. She was away when it happened, but her step father went into the kids room while they slept and lit their mattresses on fire and burned the house down. This was in Georgia 1999.
It was in the local news and was sentenced to life in prison, though he died in prison sometime after 2011. I cannot fully remember the outcome after the trial, but the state of Georgia revamped their efforts to protect children of parents with violent criminal histories. I believe it was the fourth or fifth brutal event like that for the state to change it's policy.
She says at least some good came out in the end knowing that other people can be safer after what happened to her family. We visited their grave sites last year, she hasn't visited in nearly 10 years. It was a very emotional day.
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๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We do have some but nothing they could really do
rootfiend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody noticed it until it got this bad? Do you have neighbors?
TheSnugglerrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey this happened to me growing up too. My family was okay, but we lost both of our cats. You'll get through this. I promise.
stinkyEyesMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey bro!
walking_it_off ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry youโre going through this, but Iโm very glad to read that your family is safe!
wellshitiguessnot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wish upvotes could be cashed in for real money. Best of luck to you and your family.
el-smoko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dam bro that sucks, house I was renting a couple years ago completely got burnt down. Fucking nightmare. Hope you got insurance and all your shit didnโt burn. Good luck brotha
DrXenu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
good luck on the new house. If I am not mistaken everything should be written off to smoke damage or the fire itself if everything is insured properly. Frankly I am surprised the house wasn't a heap of ash when you got home and firefighters weren't there to help as the last house fire I saw quickly overtook the structure and burned everything so badly even neighboring houses were damaged due to the heat of the fire.
Emfx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We just went through an electrical fire three months ago, itโs a fucking headache but make sure you donโt let insurance push you around because they will try. Just be ready for a lot of nonsense and waiting around... ours was a small fire (one room) and we are just now moved back in after, like said above, 3 months. A total of maybe two weeks was actual contractors working, the rest was insurance trying to get out of paying for shit.
RydalHoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My parents lost their home that I grew up in two years ago, and last year we had a small fire at the house we were staying at that lead to a crazy amount of life changes. If you need someone to talk to about what its going to be like, both emotionally and practically, please reach out.
MetalIzanagi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that, with your username you should try to get a reality TV show.
"TardMcGee Needs A New House"
BridgetteBane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of a weird question- was your cable working before the fire? I'm a cable dispatcher and sometimes the electric wiring in the house go bad and start to use the cable wires as a ground. Definitely a sign of a big problem.
Josvys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Gofundme please, also read the top comment
iknowCatMan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:54:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely set up a GoFundMe. There's plenty of us on Reddit that would contribute. It's going to be a while until you get insurance money and some cash now will help. Hang in there.
its-ya-boi-uhhh ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 02:31:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Was it at least lit
Karlo_Made ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:34:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon.
sorrrrbet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:34:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Straight fire, Iโm told.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
New years gift I guess you could say
iwanttodie95 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:48:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No.
A_Cuddly_Burrito ยท 809 points ยท Posted at 23:07:26 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
House fires terrify me now.
The house up the road from me went up in flames at about 3 in the morning. I woke up because I heard glass smash.
The guy who lives in there is an old fella. He didnโt wake up. Myself and another neighbour kicked his door in to get him out, then did what we could with as many garden hoses as would reach till the firies got there.
Itโs like house fire PTSD now lol. I wish the very best for you. Hopefully nothing inside was too badly torched. Houses are replaceable though. Life isnโt. As long as youโre all alright
[deleted] ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 23:15:28 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs so courageous of you to get him out!
balderdash9 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 02:00:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Cuddly Burrito is Spiderman
[deleted] ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 02:19:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Yeetgodknickknackass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:23:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Noooooooooo
Shadowchaos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's just his username, it's not like a novelty account or anything
Mochigood ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 02:35:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The chicken barn down the road went up, and my dogs told me about it. They were barking weird, not in their usual way. It made me more comfortable to know they'll flip out if there is a fire, but I'm also scared there will be a fire when I'm away and they'll get killed.
USSLibertyLavonAfair ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:50:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Good decal to fill out and put on your front door
Free one https://secure.aspca.org/take-action/order-your-pet-safety-pack
Also leave as many doors open as possible so they got rooms to go to. If it's a two story though block off the dogs access to the 2nd floor whenever you are not home.
They also have smoke detectors that can connect to your wifi and send you an alert on your phone.
blythed ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:35:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Free pet window sticker from the ASPCA
https://secure.aspca.org/take-action/order-your-pet-safety-pack
USSLibertyLavonAfair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanx
BewareTheKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:23:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't opening doors make the fire worse since it's improving air circulation?
pixelcookie11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's because the firemen can get in the house and rooms easier. IDK though I might be wrong
Medaforcer ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:48:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm about to leave my cats for two nights to go out of town and now I'm terrified. Greatttt
adimapamida ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We cut the breaker to everything but the kitchen when we go on trips. In the kitchen we unplug everything that's not the fridge
alphawolf29 ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 23:46:53 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I cringe internally when I see people with tons of candles or cheap dollar store extension chords
ToCareOrNotToCare ยท 123 points ยท Posted at 01:59:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I spent a few years as a fireman and I have tons of candles in my house. Iโd be MUCH more worried about space heaters, dryer lint, kitchen accidents, dusty furnaces, and cigarettes than a candle contained in a glass jar. Not to mention CO. Do you own any fire extinguishers?
pseudopsud ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 02:15:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Cheap phone chargers worry me. Especially counterfeit major brand chargers
They might burn down your house or they might just electrocute you
Randolf_Schnitzler ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 02:42:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have a story for you!
Backstory:
I have a very sensitive nose. To the point that I think I annoy my partner by being in another room while they are cooking and loudly announcing that the bottom of the pot is sticking and burning before they have even noticed.
Story:
I have a OTG adapter to go from Android device -> HDMI cable in the back of the TV. It doesn't have any power cable because it draws straight from the connections. It stayed connected to the HDMI cable semi-permanently because that's what we'd use most of the time for media.
One day, out of the blue right before we're going to bed I get this whiff of that distinct cuprous smell, like if there was a smelter operating somewhere nearby but far enough away not to really notice it.
I hate the smell. It always screams electrical fire to me. Whenever I get that smell I start going through a mental inventory of anything with wires, anything electrical and I check them.
So, like a madman who is hunting for a mouse which exists only in their imagination, I start frantically waking sniffing around and pulling out cables and checking things to see if they are melting or burning on the inside. I'm just about convinced that my partner is thinking "This is it. I knew this day was coming. He's finally snapped."
I can't seem to find the source of the smell and everything seems fine but purely by chance my hand momentarily passes over the adapter and it feels too warm. I stop. It's a eureka moment for me. Something's not right there. I come back to the adapter and it seems fine. I touch it. It's hot. Way too hot. I turn it over, the underside of the plastic housing is starting to melt and deform. I unplug it immediately and pull off the damaged housing.
Inside, some small piece (a capacitor, I'm assuming, with my near-zero knowledge of electrical components) has burnt out and left charred marks on the board. It's hot. It must be 200 degrees, or at least that's how it felt - such a little piece which wasn't that "Ow, that's hot!" sort of hot but the sort of hot where your brain goes straight to "Ah, fuck that's burning me!!"
Obviously, I allowed it to cool outside before throwing it away the next morning.
...and that's the story of how I probably avoided a house fire out of pure luck because I stay up too late and I have a keen sense of smell. Check your dongles and other devices, not just your chargers, people!
MetalIzanagi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:48:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I check my dongle every day but I don't think it's starting any fires.
Randolf_Schnitzler ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:52:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Avoid all unnecessary friction on your dongle.
SuicideBonger ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:52:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I always knew your nose would be good for something other than sniffing dog butts. You must be very proud.
Chemicalbagel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:52:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same situation here but with a lightbulb, one of those twisty ones. I called the fire dept out several times, trying to make sure the house wasn't burning down. I couldn't trace it, no matter what I did. One day it got bad enough that I called them again, and right as they showed up the overhead lamp caught fire.
Found out later it was a really bad outlet, but the chief was like "those bulbs are the worst, and I do not allow them in my house." Apparently they're one of the things to cause problems. Maybe I wouldn't have found the back socket if it hadn't, though.
WaidWilson ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:01:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know people bag on companies for charging a lot for their OEM chargers, but you can rest assured you wonโt have those issues. And if you do and it comes back on the company, well, you will have to suffer temporarily for a very fat stack of cash.
cocobandicoot ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:44:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, just spend the extra money on an official power charger. Yes, for a phone that's like $30 instead of the cheapo $3 one from the gas station. The difference is that your house doesn't burn down and you don't die.
pseudopsud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:51:03 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know quite a bit about electronics and you couldn't buy wholesale the USB power regulator chips used in name brand chargers for the prices you see cheap chargers for on eBay
ToCareOrNotToCare ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:19:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Good point. My dad had one over heat and caught on fire AFTER he unplugged it.
_procyon ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:13:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I smoke. Years ago I dumped my ashtray in the garbage and there was a cigarette still going. I then fell asleep. Woke up to a room full of smoke and a hole burned in the garbage can. Dumped a glass of water in the garbage and it was fine...
I live in an apartment. This could have been a bad situation. Learned my lesson from that...
The_Real_John_Titor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I'm drinking I always use the tail end of a drink, since that way there's always some liquid and it's pretty much self contained in the bottle.
athos45678 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:15:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
if youre smart thats not a problem. i once lit my back on fire (yes my back) by leaning over a tiny candle on a table while trying to hit on a girl. (i am not smart)
MetalIzanagi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That girl was like "Damn you're hot boy. You're on fire! No really dumbass YOU ARE ON FIRE"
EZ-PEAS ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:00:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I once tried to repair a clothes dryer and ended up making sparks. The entire inside of the dryer was coated in a fine layer of lint that I didn't even notice to start. The whole bottom of the compartment immediately caught fire but because it was just lint I was able to smack it out with my hands.
But one stray spark when someone wasn't right there would have easily been enough to catch the inside on fire, and from there it would have been anything sitting on or near the dryer (and there's no way that anyone would leave dry clothes in/on a clothes dryer, right?), and from there it would have been the house.
So now I vacuum out my dryer every six months.
HawkeyeFLA ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:27:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dryer lint is some of the most flammable shit out there. Back in my younger Boy Scout days, I loved it as a tinder material for starting camping fires. But I would always make sure that it was stored super safely.
Megamega96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Can you elaborate on dusty furnaces?
Emirii_Mei ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I just bought a new (14 year old) house with an electric furnace. Apparently the inspector never turned it on, because a month later it got cold and would not turn on.
Called local AC man. He couldn't figure out why thermostat wasn't kicking furnace on, so he bypassed it and turned it on manually.
Que me sitting at computer, suddenly smell an awful smell. Red hot embers start to fall from the vent directly below the furnace (in attic). Smoke starts to fill house and all fire alarms start to go off. Wonder if man is ok in attic, but I rush outside with my bird for a momentary meltdown.
I was about to call 911, but I ran into the garage and up the ladder. The guy was freaking out too but turned the furnace off in time and said "wow, heater must have not ran for a few years, there was soooo much dust and debris on it. I should have checked first. It combusted." Oh. Ya think.
After a while of me pacing thru the house checking if things were on fire or not, AC man found PO had unplugged thermostat furnace wire for some.... reason. Inspector never turned it on obviously, even though it was stated as operational in the report. I'm just glad it didnt burn down the house.
The joys of homeownership.
iBryguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My parents use space heaters during the winter. Any tips/recommendations related to space heaters?
ToCareOrNotToCare ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Space heaters need SPACE. They need to be far away from anything flammable. Youโd be surprised at what these things will start. Maybe suggest that they look into sealing around the windows with double sided tape and plastic. You can even warm the plastic with a hair dryer to get the wrinkles out. Itโs a cheap and easy winter fix. Look into insulating the attic space. Itโs not very expensive if you do it yourself unless itโs a huge area.
Pro tip for dealing with that stuff, rub some Vaseline on yourself and wear long sleeves. Shower in cold water after. That stuff can get ITCHY
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:04:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to a family down the street from us on Christmas day when I was growing up :( We lived in shitty townhouses so their stuff and their neighbours stuff was gone. Luckily all the people made it out okay.
72APTU72E ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or the dreaded daisy chain.
---Help--- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Time to throw out that dollar store multiplug....
AchillesNutz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:04:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
*cords
Nice_Dragon ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:33:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I had a fire in the computer room in my house and got everyone out. For years after seeing car tail lights flash on a wall through the window would put me in full flight mode.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:19:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same, I hate house fires. It scares me to even look at pictures of them. I just hate to think of having it happen to my house since I have so many memories and important pictures in it of people I rarely talk to anymore.
WaidWilson ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:59:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When my dad was probably 7-8 years old, there was a fire in an old store, apparently it burnt in the middle of the night and the discovered the remains the next morning. Mind you this was way before even house phones were a thing, and they lived way out in the country.
Well anyway being the kids they were, they were looking through the remains and found the store owner who just so had happened to be sleeping there for the night. Yes she was dead.
CoffeeCupScientist ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:10:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry you wont sleep through a fire now, you're so full of anxiety you will probably wake up to the sound of a mouse fart.
A_Cuddly_Burrito ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Somebody gave me silver! Thanks :D first silver
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
StateOfSublime ยท 237 points ยท Posted at 00:09:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Any idea how it started? I've always been paranoid about this especially with dogs in the house.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 197 points ยท Posted at 02:56:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Firefighters think it was electric
CHESTER_C0PPERP0T ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 03:40:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Boogie, woogie, woogie.
Fetish_Death ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:59:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I feel really bad for laughing at this...
---Help--- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:46:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Take your upvote and get out.
mackass17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:07:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
clap
StateOfSublime ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 03:56:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh well I guess I'll keep being paranoid haha
MetalIzanagi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:46:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
haha
RDwelve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afcFRz81yTg
deathsaidhello ยท 869 points ยท Posted at 22:28:21 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck... I wish you the best of luck with your situation
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 403 points ยท Posted at 22:31:53 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 00:15:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks man, sorry
ScrotalAttraction ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:12:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
Basically_Zer0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:05:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
sonny_flatts ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:58:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I had a total burnout once. Beware of crime tonight. My shed was emptied of $15k worth of tools the night after the fire. Apparently itโs a common strategy especially in rural areas.
sweerpea200 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:15:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So sorry for you. Did they know what started it?
oreosncarrots ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:33:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Read it as fuck you had to double take lol
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 02:51:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry if I've not really been active on my post I've had to sort out the situation all day and have temporary moved into a hotel
Thousand_Sunny ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:03:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
just focus on yourself and family! and when you can't think of anywhere to vent or ask for help you know reddit is here for you! I can see lots of helpful tips in all the comments already and I'm sure many are willing to donate supplies and necessities or point you to a place that can. You take care now
chihuahualoco13 ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 22:39:22 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, that's horrible. Hope things get sorted quickly.
Squeaky_Is_Evil ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 01:12:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I work in home insurance. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll help the best I can.
[deleted] ยท -37 points ยท Posted at 02:35:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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Squeaky_Is_Evil ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:36:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It was that or retail. I chose the better option.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:45:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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Squeaky_Is_Evil ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:53:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I had a shit retail job, my friend had a great job for home insurance. I applied at my friend's workplace and got the job. Through a few promotions, I get great money and get to work from home. Since I didn't have any skills beyond the jobs I've had, and school was too expensive, those became my only options.
Baebeedraygen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:39:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have a question.
Why do you ask shitty questions?
dont_judge_me_monkey ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 01:45:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
hey op here is some food for thought for your parents and submitting insurance claims
https://np.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/43iyip/our_family_of_5_lost_everything_in_a_fire/cziljy3/
Gingerstop ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:48:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! I just posted a link to the same thread!
dont_judge_me_monkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
let's hope he sees it. now did you have it saved or did you have to search for it like I did
Gingerstop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Searched personal finance for it. ๐
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:57:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
PlatypusFighter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:31 on January 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs actually the top comment in this thread lol
dont_judge_me_monkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:03 on January 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
yeah I know they posted it after me and stole all my sweet karma.
PlatypusFighter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:22 on January 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Probably just that people would rather read the comment right here than click the link
moving0target ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:55:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's brutal and emotionally taxing to the max. A few years ago, my wife accidentally set our apartment on fire while trying to deep fry chicken. A little of the oil must have run down the side of the pan.
Our infant daughter was making noise in another room. Moments after checking on the kid, my wife returned to the kitchen to find the pot in flames. Ultimately, the sprinklers did more damage than the fire. With the help of a neighbor, thankfully they had the fire out before water started spraying everywhere. Burning oil and water are a really bad mix.
They used five fire extinguishers. All were years out of date, and the first couple just fanned the flames.
The last one extinguished the fire right before the sprinklers went off. The fire was out, but the sprinklers ran for half an hour, and the apartment was six inches deep in water...on the second floor.
My wife used to call me at work several times a day. It gets tiring. When one of my employees held out the phone for me when I was about to clock out, I just told him to tell my wife I was on the way. He passed on the message. I saw his eyes grow wide.
"She says your apartment is on fire!"
I followed the fire trucks to my home screaming profanities at the complete idiots who couldn't figure out how to get out of the way of freaking fire trucks. That's a really terrible feeling.
pinkpenguin87 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:06:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My moms house burned down sept 2017 and my brother was home with the dog & my mom was away with me & my kids 3 hours away. The drive from the hotel to the shock trauma to see my brother were the longest 3 hours of my life.
moving0target ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine. I have an idea, but not knowing would be the worst.
4pokeguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Mama mia
Leed_the_Fastest ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 01:34:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
1 am in the morning we saw a glow outside our 2nd story window, my neighbors house was totally up in flames and the owner was ready to run back in and get his other dog. We had to stop him since the house was completely up at this point.
Turns out it was a ceiling fan fire in the back porch.
iwanttodie95 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:49:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Was the dog ok?
Leed_the_Fastest ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:08:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, no
iwanttodie95 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 03:09:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
God fuckin dammit
tjs17pct ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:23:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:57:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Weird how the smallest thing can destroy so much
pinkpenguin87 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:19:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My brother ran back in for the dog when my moms house was on fire. There was no one there to stop him because it was just him and a neighbor that came to try to help. Thankfully he found her quickly & got back out ok. He thought she was dead at first, but miraculously they were both ok. A firefighter friend of mine said thatโs how a LOT of fire victims die - going back in for someone or something.
MetalIzanagi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:54:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh if it meant even a chance of saving my cat, I'd go back in for her regardless of the risk. I'm kinda crazy though, so people should probably listen to the firefighters and not go into burning buildings.
pinkpenguin87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:21:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the dog belonged to our other brother who passed away so I donโt know anyone couldโve stopped him anyways.
DepressedBagel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:33 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yea same. For me itโs a win-win, either I save my pets or I donโt and I get to die.
D8ON ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 02:04:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You pretty much just doxed yourself mate, you might want to be careful posting something so close to your house on the front page of Reddit.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:22:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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ChiefPipes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
r/rimjob_steve
Leed_the_Fastest ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:07:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
(edited)
rl_guy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:02:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If you think he gave away where he lives, why don't you try to find the answer & prove your theory right?
I think you're just a paranoid Nancy. Good luck sifting through the other hundreds of articles about house fires at 1 AM where the dog dies & the owner tried to go back & get them.
LOL are you gonna show up at the location of the fire & set up trajectories to find the window of OP?
ANONYMOOSE FOUND SHIA LEBOUF'S CAMERA, WATCH OUT THEY CAN FIND YOU WITH YOUR SHOE BRAND
M_lKEY ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:57:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The comment is edited. It sounds like he linked an article about the house fire before deleting after it was pointed out.
D8ON ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:14:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The guy posted an article that had the address on it. Fuck off mate
Workingbo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:10:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn this scares me, live in a house where the outlets wont work some days, the bathroom light wont work for a month, then work straight for a month.
CentaurOfPower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Was his dog ok?
Hidesuru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:26 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Op said no. I mean the house was fully on fire and they stopped the owner from going back in for the dog so...
Heavens_Sword1847 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Thank you for clarifying that it wasn't the 1 am in the afternoon.
EDIT: Is a joke.
Leed_the_Fastest ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:06:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
greenebean18 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:26:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
People canโt handle humor
Heavens_Sword1847 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:32:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
reddit doesn't know what sarcasm is unless there's a "/s" thrown in somewhere.
JGFootball8 ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 22:34:12 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks man, Iโm praying. Was anyone hurt?
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 22:36:02 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully no
GuidoVido ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 00:49:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know it sucks, but almost everything can be replaced except life. The important thing is no one was hurt. Good luck to you.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:57:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
SteveTheTuba ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:05:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A similar thing happened to me in 2011, I was out walking my dog and when I came back the house was on fire. It sucks. I still live in the rebuilt house on the original lot today.
Andrew4568_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:53:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know how it caught? So weird, you go to walk the pupper and then poof magic your house is on fire :(
SteveTheTuba ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:08:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We don't know for sure, but my dad ran a music instrument repair shop in the garage and we think he might've left one of his machines on by accident. Not to place blame on anyone, of course, we all make mistakes.
Nomandate ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:38:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm super paranoid about leaving on my soldering iron. Always double checking... then one time I discovered I had left it on an entire night. Itโs a good quality one, but I still get sick to my stomach thinking how my small oversight could have burned my family alive.
MeEvilBob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:34:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
As long as it's in the coil base and the base is sturdy the iron should be fine. This being said, leaving the iron on for too long without using it is not good for the iron and can wear out the tip, so shutting off your soldering iron when you're done with it is a good habit to get into, even if you have to turn it right back on when you realize something you missed.
Beardedrugbymonster ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:28:55 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck man...sending some well wishes your way.
travissm2 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:26:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I wish you the best of luck. My family's house burnt down while we were vacationing in Florida. Nothing was salvageable. Thankfully all our animals were able to escape. It was a long road to recovery, and I'd say we are still recovering five years after the fact. It will be hard and very stressfull moving forward, but be grateful no one was harmed. I wish you and your family the best during this awful time.
substorm ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:03:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Man, things like this scare the heck out of me. No matter how many safety measures are in place, there is always that one chance in a million that shit goes sideways. Hang in there OP! I am sure everything will get better.
Cakeinthebreakroom ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:42:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You're getting a lot of comments on this and some are helpful and some are not.
I went through a house fire 14 months ago. Total loss of contents due to smoke and soot and water. The house had to be gutted. I'm a lawyer who is familiar with insurance and bad faith lawsuits. I knew what to look for and I was still flabbergasted by the process. Call your insurance agent. Depending on your coverage, you could have a lot of options on Day 1. If you feel like you need advice or extra input, send me a PM and we can talk. Im glad to offer any advice or guidance that I can.
The Number One Rule - this is a business dealing between you and your insurance company. They are NOT looking out for you. They are NOT your friend. They know what they owe you and will try to keep their payout low. You're going to have to fight for your rights under the insurance contract. Email your agent for a CERTIFIED copy of your policy with all addendums.
ywBBxNqW ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:26:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know you're getting inundated with shit but I just wanted to say I'm sorry this shit happened to you. I've lost all my shit twice growing up (because of flooding, twice) but at least I had a roof over my head.
Good luck dude.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:27:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
FrostyPresence ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:12:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Woke up at 6am to get my kids up for school. House full of smoke. Dehumidifier in the basement caught on fire. Not uncommon per the Fire Marshall. Terrifying, especially since you smell nothing when sleeping, but it was acrid plastic smell for weeks. Tg it happened when it did and I woke up when I did. Good luck!! Things can be replaced, people can't. ๐
laxaddict11 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:22:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/43iyip/our_family_of_5_lost_everything_in_a_fire/cziljy3?utm_source=reddit-android
Check out this post on how to not get fucked by insurance, I've had this saved for a while and I feel like you could use it. Hopefully this won't get buried
pinkpenguin87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, this was a good source!
Briggy1986 ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 00:42:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Put it in a bag of rice.
rvm98 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:55:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 02:59:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Didnt work I even tried to turn it on and off
bwaredapenguin ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:28:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well there's your problem, you turned it back on.
RockLaShine ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:24:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
To quote u/1020304050
"Hey OP... I used to be the guy who worked for insurance companies, and determined the value of every little thing in your house. The guy who would go head-to-head with those fire-truck-chasing professional loss adjusters. I may be able to help you not get screwed when filing your claim.
Our goal was to use the information you provided, and give the lowest damn value we can possibly justify for your item.
For instance, if all you say was "toaster" -- we would come up with a cheap-as-fuck $4.88 toaster from Walmart, meant to toast one side of one piece of bread at a time. And we would do that for every thing you have ever owned. We had private master lists of the most commonly used descriptions, and what the cheapest viable replacements were. We also had wholesale pricing on almost everything out there, so really scored cheap prices to quote. To further that example:
I'm not telling you to lie on your claim. Not at all. That would be illegal, and could cause much bigger issues (i.e., invalidating the entire claim). But on the flip side, it's not always advantageous to tell the whole truth every time. Pay attention to those last two examples.
I remember one specific customer... he had some old, piece of shit projector (from mid-late 90s) that could stream a equally piece of shit consumer camcorder. Worth like $5 at a scrap yard. It had some oddball fucking resolution it could record at, though -- and the guy strongly insisted that we replace with "Like Kind And Quality" (trigger words). Ended up being a $65k replacement, because the only camera on the market happened to be a high-end professional video camera (as in, for shooting actual movies). $65-goddam-thousand-dollars because he knew that loophole, and researched his shit.
Remember to list fucking every -- even the most mundane fucking bullshit you can think of. For example, if I was writing up the shower in my bathroom:
I could probably keep thinking, and bring it up to about $400 for the contents of my shower. Nothing there is "unreasonable" , nothing there is clearly out of place, nothing seems obviously fake. The prices are a little on the high-end, but the reality is, some people have expensive shit -- it won't actually get questioned. No claims adjuster is going to bother nitpicking over the cost of fucking Lush bath bombs, when there is a 20,000 item file to go through. The adjuster has other shit to do, too.
Most people writing claims for a total loss wouldn't even bother with the shower (it's just some used soap and sponges..) -- and those people would be losing out on $400.
Some things require documentation & ages. If you say "tv - $2,000" -- you're getting a 32" LCD, unless you can provide it was from the last year or two w/ receipts. Hopefully you have a good paper trail from credit/debit card expenditure / product registrations / etc.
If you're missing paper trails for things that were legitimately expensive -- go through every photo you can find that was taken in your house. Any parties you may have thrown, and guests put pics up on Facebook. Maybe an Imgur photo of your cat, hiding under a coffee table you think you purchased from Restoration Hardware. Like... seriously... come up with any evidence you possibly can, for anything that could possibly be deemed expensive.
The fire-truck chasing loss adjusters are evil sons of bitches, but, they actually do provide some value. You will definitely get more money, even if they take a cut. But all they're really doing, is just nitpicking the ever-living-shit out of everything you possibly owned, and writing them all up "creatively" for the insurance company to process.
Sometimes people would come back to us with "updated* claims. They tried it on their own, and listed stuff like "toaster", "microwave", "tv" .. and weren't happy with what they got back. So they hired a fire-truck chaser, and re-submitted with "more information." I have absolutely seen claims go from under $7k calculated, to over $100k calculated. (It's amazing what can happen when people suddenly "remember" their entire wardrobe came from Nordstrom.)"
USSLibertyLavonAfair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This needs to go to the top. By far the most informative thing I've seen in this thread. Thank you.
I actually just got my insurance adjusters license. And because I was foolish and just went with a license mill. I actually just learned more about adjusting a claim from your post than I did in the entirety of the online course/test.
sigh Gotta go sign up for some vale courses now and look up conventions.
pinkpenguin87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do you get to do the inventorying in the houses?
USSLibertyLavonAfair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have not entered the industry in any real way yet. I'm literally just licenced about to start applying for jobs and pray someone will take me in and train me.
Most likely I'm going to have to visit some conventions/take more online courses before employers are even gunna want to touch me. But I dunno yet. I'm gunna try and see if I can get in with Chubb or Geico or basically anyone who will take me.
PinkSpartan226 ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 22:27:47 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs how mafia works
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 22:29:43 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's how life works
Shitsonallthings ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:23:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Who got the last shit?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:58:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The house was ๐ฅ
669-666-9828 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:24:58 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Man you had a nice house
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:00:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah had
MetalIzanagi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
:( It's okay man just start working on making a new one with a fine lady. Wait shit that's babies.
TreezyTreezy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
oof
lemonadest ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:21:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
oof. iโm sure you mean well but itโs not the time
669-666-9828 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Law to have insurance so the house will be back to normal eventually. What sucks is the stuff lost, but insurance should cover most of it, hopefully.
No lives seem to be lost and that's all that matters.
DeadBabyDick ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:29:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's a basic lower middle class house.
Nothing special or nice about it.
shadowyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
r/humblebrag
darranbt1986 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:10:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What the cause of the fire and how can it be avoided?
pseudopsud ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:19:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
He says elsewhere "extension cord"
Without any other knowledge I would say: don't use damaged cords; ensure cords are correctly and completely plugged in at each end; uncoil cords before use
MetalIzanagi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Also don't chain cords together.
karazy45 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:13:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I am so sorry! This is one of my very worst fears ever.
gigalongdong ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:27:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My parent's house burned down from a lightning strike on Mother's Day in 2000. It burned all the way to the ground because the fire trucks couldn't make it up our driveway (we lived on a hill back in the woods). :\
Best of luck to you!!
MetalIzanagi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is why we need fire APCs.
Mellowjoat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:49:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I saved a thread about an insurance adjuster with phenomenal advice. Let me grab it.
Edit : Here it is
LuluTheLemon89 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:57:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry for you and your family. I had a friend who passed when her house caught fire a few years ago. I don't wanna be another person who says 'as long as everyone is okay' but it's true. Material things can be replaced, life can't. Good luck, try to keep the blood pressure down.
americannnnn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:33:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry!!! House fires are really scary. I remember when I was 14 our rental house next door burned down (nobody was living in it at the time). I woke up to the fire chief knocking on the door in the middle of the night and saying the house next door is on fire. It still freaks me out to this day. Everything will be okay and God bless you and your family.
AsianNoodL ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:29:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, i saw that you posted a picture of your pc setup. I wonder if you could get insurance claims for your broken pc. Maybe if you forgot the specs (you could upgrade it). I know it sucks that your house burnt down, but you gotta look towards the positive side of things. I'm not sure if thats how those home insurance things work, but i really hope everything turns out great for you!
666moonchild666 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:46:49 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Omg Im so sorry
coldcoffeehottea ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:23:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is literally my worst nightmare.
lawschoollorax ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:46:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Call Red Cross too! They will help with temporary funds. My FILโs house just burned down and they came out.
Also, try ASAP to start an itemized list of every item in your house that you can think of. When the insurance agency calls make sure to be specific I.e. 60โ Samsung TV not just TV in living room.
Iโm sorry youโre going through this :(
SellerOfWorlds ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:35:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oof. Uh. Have an upvote.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yay
Jessicajf7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:29:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Im sorry
JHawkInc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:09:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Bummer OP. In... 2009? Junior year of college. We had fall break. For my university, we had Monday/Tuesday off. I went home for the weekend, then back to school (parents working, sister in school, I'd be home alone during the day, chose to spend that time in my dorm cleaning my room and getting a head start on a research paper, but really I watched like three seasons of Lost on Netflix).
Wednesday was a normal day of classes. Wednesday afternoon the science department lit up some thermite because a new professor cleaning an old storage room found some, and the department thought it would be fun (and it was!). Immediately after I get a phone call from my dad. Sister got home from high school, opened the door to go inside the house, wall of black smoke.
She got to grandparent's house (almost across the street), called 911, dad got home, sometime during that stretch our two cats (indoors 100% of the time) were located and safely... moved to a car or something, I don't remember. Mom was on her way out of town for something, she came home when she found out.
tl;dr, old TV (big HD screen, but the last of those big monsters that took several people to move, before big flat screens became a thing) caught fire at the base, burned hot enough (burning the floor and wall) to bust the end of a fish tank (living room and dining room were kinda one big open space, fish tank was on a counter in the dining room, which put it at a 90 degree angle from the edge of the TV). Fish tank emptied onto the fire, putting it out (mostly). So like 99% of our damage was smoke damage. Family lived at my grandparent's house. I was there over Thanksgiving. I was the first to move in back home, I had to come home from college in the morning, clear space and assemble a bedframe, so my sister's mattress could be delivered and set up in her room, so I could sleep on the air mattress (otherwise one of us wouldn't have a bed that night).
Almost a full decade later, we still find things that have these little purple tags on them, tags used by the cleaner to identify our stuff (because literally everything with fabric in our house was loaded into a truck and driven an hour away to a big industrial cleaning place to get the soot and smoke smell out of it). We trashed a lot of stuff (those big long dumpsters that go on the back of an 18-wheeler? filled 2 or 3 of them, because mattresses and sofas had to go, and then we did some spring cleaning while insurance was paying for those big things to be hauled on/off our property). Some of the books on my bookshelf still have a tiny bit of black on the edge of the pages (as my room was least touched by the smoke, I think what got into my room went up into the crawlspace, so they didn't put as much effort into "deep cleaning" things like my bookshelf; side note, fire department took forever to find the source of the fire because it was mostly put out and there was so much smoke they kept looking for a bigger fire, and they busted through my closet ceiling into our crawlspace, and until that was fixed my room was like thirty degrees colder than the rest of the house... thankfully that was done within a few days of us moving back in). I'll never forget just how black the interior of our house was, and the nasty "soot spiderwebs" that stretched across the house (imagine cobwebs, but as black as you can possibly imagine, and larger, and just more scary looking). Or the feeling of coming into the house just to look around and assess the damage, and not having a clean spot to set down your car keys. Or going through, not touching anything, and still having black smudges on your clothing when you left.
In 2012 I had graduated college and was delivering pizza. One day my boss told me "This family has had a fire, someone (in their church, I think) is paying for their lunch, they don't owe you anything when you get there." So I knew not to ask them about money (or for anyone to sign for using a credit card, the cardholder wouldn't be there). I was glad to help out, I knew what it was like. What my boss didn't tell me was "they had a fire THIS MORNING." I had to move my car when I got there so the fire department could exit the neighborhood. I was delivering pizza to the family (parents, 3-4 kids, at least two grandparents also lived there, maybe an aunt or uncle, many more people effected than when my family of 4 went through it) while a representative of... the Red Cross? was talking to them about getting set up at an extended stay hotel nearby, as well as covering costs for things like toothbrushes and other base need essentials. They hadn't even left their house after the fire yet, they hadn't even been inside somewhere else yet, to get cleaned up or anything.
I'll be honest. Yours looks worse than ours. And we still feel the effects a decade later. It'll be rough. But it'll be okay. And it'll give you some valuable perspective on the world, just having a grasp of what it's like to go through some shit. I'm just now reading that insurance adjuster post... I wish I could comment more on that, but my mom took care of that (I was still living on campus at the time, I wasn't near as "displaced" as my family, because a lot of my stuff was with me at school, and my daily routine didn't change even though they didn't live at home for two months, you know?). All of that about taking pictures and itemizing everything? That's good advice. It'll be worth the effort.
Reach out if you have any questions, or just need to vent.
Ellexoxoxo33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:42:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Your detailed, kind and interesting as hell post is appreciated, my Good Redditor
unkyduck ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:15:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lawyer up. Record everything. The adjuster is NOT your friend, they work for the insurance companies. For example: The additional living expenses (ALE) may be a separate pool from the contents.. so watch out for the first place they put you ..our insurance company put us in a shithole apt/hotel... that was charging $5500 a month for an unserviced furnished box. The 60K ALE disappears really quickly at that rate- forcing you to settle at a disadvantage... and that's just on day one...again LAWYER UP NOW ! EDIT: I have MUCH more... packers putting 2 plates in a box.. then charging for 2 cubic feet of storage, and shipping.. it is relentless, and they do it while you're traumatized...
barebladed98 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 22:28:06 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry to hear that. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 22:30:03 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Might be totaled
barebladed98 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:36:03 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's terrible. Do they know the cause of the fire yet? Was anyone inside?
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 22:36:47 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Extension cord or something
microwave333 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Extension cord or power supply?
I'm now frantically examining the electric set up around my entire house.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 03:27:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Send money you bum
canyooubelieve ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We had a house fire when I was thirteen, scariest thing thatโs ever happened to me and it still messes with me to this day. I wish you the best of luck and Iโm so sorry this happened!
Poland2985 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:31:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs terrible. I came home to a much smaller house fire several years ago and it took me a solid year to not expect to find another when I entered the door. Be well.
Skystrike7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Put some ice on it
Redd-san ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:45:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
any idea what caused it?
DavidN1234 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:29:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck I never realized I couldโve used my house burning down for karma...Iโll just wait a week till everyone forgets and use some old pics
Plasym ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:38:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โr/wellthatsucksโ
That doesnโt suck thatโs just completely devastating.
wassupDFW ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Always nice to come back to a warm house on a cold winter day.
Feel sorry for you buddy. Hope you are covered.
waltk918 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least the weather is nice.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't call snow good heh
waltk918 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I keed obviously! Sorry to see that this happened to you. Hopefully if you had any pets they're ok!
Janus1289 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:14:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ay bruh do you live in the house from Drake and Josh? I am getting deja vu here.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lived* and no it's just generic suburban house
thebestatheist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just wanted to share this comment I saved once about filing an insurance claim with you. Itโs by far the best advice Iโve ever read.
https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/43iyip/comment/cziljy3?st=JQRJAO8Y&sh=16467cb1
dehlias ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yo how can we as a community help fam?
2percentgay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did your Juul explode?
GrimaceIVXX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:50:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
hey at least you got 31.7k in karma.
LegendaryWenisWaxer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:18:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least the spiders are dead.
sorrynotsorryxq ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lesson learned. Never go to school.
stuetel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:53:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm incredibly sorry for you! This is probably one of the worst things that could happen to someone. I really hope the damage isn't too bad and that you have the funds/insurance to fix everything! All the good wishes to you and your family
MiKAaAaAaAaAaAaAaAaA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:22:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Press f to pay respect
drift_summary ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:50 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
F
fedora-laura ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:29:25 on January 13, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Canโt imagine how you must be feeling right now but Iโm sure itโs a emotional time so best of luck to you and yours and I hope youโre able to rebuild you life quickly and easily if possible. Take care.
ffatty ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:12:19 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If my house burned down I would probably tell reddit before my family or the police
KrshnaIII ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:44:39 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The big bad wolf finally had enough of the brick house
Also I'm sorry man that genuinely sucks
surfnskate72 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in middle school(80โs) I was out riding my bike during winter. It was pretty cold out, I was bundled up.. as I rode by my buddyโs house I noticed him standing in his front yard holding his cat in a a pair of shorts and a T-shirt. I rode up and was like โWazzz uppp?โ. He said โ my chimney is on fire and Iโm waiting on the FD. I was like โcool, laterโ .. just a little chimney fire cause they hadnโt had the flue cleaned in years...
ohsocheesy123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:02 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry this is awful
Scx10Deadbolt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:02 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shite man! Hope you'll be alright. Best of luck to you!
bltrvns9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:25 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my gosh. Sorry to see this. Thinking of you and your family!
SignalMushroom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:45 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hope for a quick recovery for you and yours
as1126 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dude(ette) good luck. Keep us posted.
ibdt161 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt think houses are supposed to do that
SubparMeteorologist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey if it makes you feel any better, our house burned down on move-in day. Someone put a box on the stove, mustโve accidentally turned the stove top on. We went to eat lunch, came back homeless. Lmaooo
aronenark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit dude. Im sorry. Hope you get whatever help you need.
IReallyLikeAvocadoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
House fires are such a shitty thing to happen. All that you love and cherish is for the most part all in that house, and fire completely wipes all that. I can't do much more than hope you make it through okay.
elvispresley1313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I am so sorry this happened to you. Thank God no one was hurt. If you need someone to talk to, reach out to a therapist near you. They work wonders and can help you through this.
artdecozebra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A little bit of paint and it will be fine...
SquidZillaYT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that REALLY sucks
tbribri33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Happened to me once too while I was in the 7th grade (though not as severely, we just lost our kitchen)
Iโm sorry this happened to you and your family, know that it will get better.
Landon_da_meme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no
bellamakenzie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So sorry op! I lost my family home growing up due to a fire caused by lightning. Hope things get better โค๏ธ
mc395686 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hope that any personal belongings werenโt destroyed. Family items, collectibles; and while yes the first priority should be is everyone okay but loosing that kinda stuff is hard
haistv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Can we start like a charity for this guy or something?
DarkSoulsExplorer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What did you leave on?
Gimmegimmegunshots ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:46:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
His mixtape
lindsalei ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you live?
MetalIzanagi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:06:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not in a house
OsamaBeenBloggin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Odd alibi, but okay
Velocity_2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ah man that sucks so much. Good luck I hope everything gets back on track ASAP!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well, on the bright side youโre on the right sub. Hope the best
OkayMolasses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My heart goes out to you. I cannot even imagine losing everything. You're in my thoughts are with you and your family during this difficult time.
anotherguy252 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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henrybex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Vurondotron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Get_off_critter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Very glad for you no pets or people were inside. Things can be replaced, though sorry for the loss of sentimental items. Think of this as a sudden start to a new beginning
Naganine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did you live the oven on?
Wdf1987 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's the only way to live, bro
ChipChipington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did your Nintendo survive
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:31:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My pc is fried
ChipChipington ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
F. Iโll pour a shot on my carpet for you.
enjoy this photo of a chunky boy while you recover
https://i.imgur.com/yyULX8X.jpg
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
Wicck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Any idea if you can get anything off the hard drives?
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I will have to see what's left after insurance has tallied up the damage but yeah
Eggcelent4ever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Rip man
BarfTheChicken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What about the inside is it there ? Partly burnt ? Fine?
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Porch is fried and my room is trashed along with the entire roof
MetalIzanagi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:02:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is why my room is at the back of the house,so it'll burn last.
Death_to_Everything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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MeEvilBob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Every day I drive by a big white house. This house is nearly identical to the 100+ year old house that stood on the same foundation about 10 years ago. Every time I see that house I think of the girl that died in that old house the night it burned to the ground. I met her a few times, I never knew her well.
Her family still lives in the new house. I can't imagine what it's like moving into a house that looks just like the one you had a few months before, but with that one empty bedroom that looks just like where your daughter used to sleep.
ronaldnj82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear that man. That sucks. Thank God for HO insurance
lXManBearPigXl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks man. I know the feeling. When I was on holiday someone set fire to my car which melted the front of my house and drive. People are dicks.
WhyMore18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Glad you and your family are safe OP!
ChunkierMilk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, at least only Part of it.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This was an early pic there's more damage
ChunkierMilk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn Iโm sorry to hear that, I didnโt see your update comment before I posted.
I see that everyone is safe though, everything else is just temporary
p8ntballa11223 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I see a little bit of snow. If this is somehow a few hours from Albany NY area I can bring you stuff if needed.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you but I think I'm fine for now
p8ntballa11223 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ok well hang in there. It'll be a process but better things are ahead.
Paintguin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How much of the house is damaged?
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least half the roof and some rooms
Paintguin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my!
ChocolatteBoss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay.. At least you got some reddit karma ๐
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Too bad it cant pay for a new house haha
gablelarson333 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey im here if you need someone to talk to. I went through a house fire one year and 3 days now ago. I lost nearly everything and I know how horrific it can be. Please don't be scared to reach out, im here if you need someone to talk to.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
zebraquick22888 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hang in there. It happened to me when I was in 11th grade. Most house burned. What did not was smoke damaged. We stayed in an apartment for six months while it was rebuilt.
Esoxgab01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:02:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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jeefray ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry for the loss of your home.
harlequinxoxo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
this is the most โwell that sucksโ post ive ever seen on here
HanginLowNd2daLeft ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs a lot of damage !! ... sorry for your loss . Hope everyone was okay . U can replace possessions but you canโt replace loved ones . keep that chin up OP!!
ad479 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh that sucks so much, I'm so sorry your family has to go through this! My grandparents lost their house to a fire last year, everything was ruined. Tons of family heirlooms, furniture that had been in the family for decades; we were able to save some things, but almost everything was gone. Its incredibly devastating :(
str4b3rryb1tch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've been there, OP. I'm so sorry.
guzman_hemi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
OP left his mixtape playing
littleredcamaro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry. That must be so horrible to experience. Hopefully the insurance company will cover you. Be careful with fake contractors and fraudulent people.
sandyclams101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey my house burnt down this summber and it fucking sucked. Best thing you can do is keep your head up. One thing I learned is that you'll always think you have something and then you'll do the classic "fuck it was burnt in the fire". Anyway hope things get better from here.
Natedukes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I feel ya. I was 2 in my little crib sleeping and my little brother set my house on fire and my mom saved me just before my roof collapsed. We lived on a farm and she was out in the yard before the fire got bad apparently.
Another time I was sleeping in my apartment and my roommate came home drunk and changed before going back out. She threw her shoe into the kitchen area. It landed on the stove and hit the element dial to 9 and landed on that element. It set the shoe on fire after a while and then the cabinets. I had a building maintenance guy walking around at 4am and he heard my alarm going off. I had been drinking so I didnโt hear it. He saved my life and put out the fire.
aciara ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Gosh, Iโm so sorry that happened to you :( Iโm glad your family is safe
kozsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That is not very epic :(
Shadywells ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:21:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gods, my little sisters house went up in flames on December 30th. Everything lost, from her kids Christmas presents, to her last work shirt.
Unfortunately that was her trailer that was uninsured. It's a good lesson on why everyone needs insurance.
xubax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:28:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When filling out claims for insurance, be specific.
If you had a four slot toaster with electronic controls, don't just just "toaster", because they'll assign a value for the cheapest 2 slot piece of shit toaster available. They can only go by what they're told, and then they err on the side of saving money.
LackLusterLIVE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That house looks like they got all the after school snacks.
storebrand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not hurt, in school but have a house? This was a shitty day for you but you're going to survive I promise.
I'm willing to recreate every family photo you lost with you. It won't be the same but will be fun.
Just remember to quote every item you lost as the most expensive on the market. You didn't have a toaster you had the most expensive one on the market, same with tv stove what have you.
Best of luck, I'm so sorry for your shitty day. <3
AUGSOME47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck with everything, I had gone to the grocery store to get groceries and on my way home got a call that my house was on fire from my fiancรฉe, and saw smoke as I was heading down the road, lost all of our house and everything inside and our cat, took quite a few months to actually finish the list and turn it in and about a couple months for the money to come in, all in all probably spent about a year and a half from when our house burned down to when we moved into our new one and got our check.
ThePrettyBeebz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:09:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hope youโre safe and everyone in the house. Sending love for the next steps after this.
ChampWould ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've been through 2 myself. If I've learned anything it's this: Stuff is just stuff. It may have sentimental value, which hurts, but in the end, the $5 shirt burns the same at the $50 shirt. Never take anyone for granted. I have thankfully never lost a family member, unless you're including dogs. Just recognize things could be a lot worse, losing a parent or sibling. God bless! Will keep you in my prayers.
Michalusmichalus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
On the bright side, you were safe!!
1h8fulkat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
God damn...that sucks man.
I hope there were no pets inside.
lordofslam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:02:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus. I'm sorry to hear this, dude. I hope you can rebuild soon.
ActualSpring ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oof
ZRusskie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This should be a roast me post!
N0DuckingWay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:56:00 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The upside: you weren't in it when it did!!
LitleMisOstentatious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:39 on May 22, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I had a similar situation a few weeks ago, day before going back to school though
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:57 on May 23, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear
SamwiseGryffindor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:27:20 on January 10, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโll buff right out.
PinheadLarry2323 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:42:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least it cleared the snow off your roof
SamuraiJakkass86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:16:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure you don't comment about what you think happened or not. Your insurance company will somehow find out and use it against you.
-Xenogetraloxic- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Play soundcloud playlist with caution next time.
Vitaeamor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My childhood home burned down a couple of years back and my mom didnโt make it. I understand your pain and if you need to talk or vent, pm me anytime. Insurance will definitely be a useful resource if you read what your exact coverage is.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks I'll keep you in mind
dehlias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry to hear
cannedpeachess ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:05:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Mr TardMcGee I believe thatโs more than a Wellthatsucks
sherry2012 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Insurance pays amazingly well. For what itโs worth, youโre about to get a check for over $100,000 to replace just your stuff. (As well as another check for the replacement value of the house!)
pinkpenguin87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
ideally, yes, but They donโt just hand you a check. they go through whatever they can in the house and compare it with an inventory you have to create of every. Single. Belonging. Then they decide whether or not theyโre going to pay you per item as you repurchase or if the numbers get high enough, they give you a lump some. When my moms house burned down, they ended up giving her a lump some because the value of her belongings was worth more than whatever their threshold is. They rebuilt her house (well, sheโs hopefully moving in this month. Fire was in sept 2017), so she didnโt get a check for that. She just kept paying her mortgage and they put her in a โcomparableโ house, which was actually crazy nice and much bigger than hers, probably twice my moms mortgage, but she didnโt pay any more. Then the other thing you have to keep in mind is things that canโt be replaced, you know? Thatโs been a real struggle for us. Fire is such a scary traumatic thing.
DeadassBdeadassB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wow
chunkumm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
But on the bright side . 24k karma. Not bad OP , NOT BAD A TALL.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:18:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Worst trade deal in history
LifeSad07041997 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:04 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... So ain't it a trade with the devil?
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Suppose so
lostinthesauce42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man!! That really does suck! Iโm glad that no one was hurt, at least. Hope all is well.
WhamBamWhigWam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wish you the best. Happened to my family while I was away at school. Electric blanket. Lots of patience necessary ahead but remind yourself that youโre all okay. Family is a very precious thing. Hang in there. Youโll be ok.
RagAppled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shoot man, sorry.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to me in primary school. Still can't wipe it from my memory
SkootchDown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So very sorry.
Lusfm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Woof that sucks! Best of luck OP!! Itโs just things. I know itโs an easy thing to type from afar but itโs true.
Pedadinga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
As long as everyone got out, itโs ok. I know people mourn โthingsโ, but theyโre just things. Iโm so sorry, but Iโm so happy it was only a house.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well I mean.. I mourn things too. In my house, I have photos of friends and gifts from people I love. Most of the people involved in them I donโt talk to that much anymore because theyโve moved on. Iโd hate to lose those.
UpTheGunners ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck op ! Wishing you the best
_CoachMcGuirk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wellthatsucks
forumwhore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Where's the Fire Dept?
PussyWrangler46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry, I hope you didnโt lose any pets ๐
kinda-guy-kinda-sly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I was never afraid of a house fire until I woke up one morning to my neighborโs house on fire. Looking out the window at 5 am the week after I graduated high school to a house engulfed in flames was actually terrifying.
Good luck, OP. I can imagine how difficult it is to lose everything, but at least youโre safe.
chucklezdaccc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Insurance I hope! Terribly sorry.
SleepyNaikou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking hell. I wish you the very best and hope you'll be able to recover from this.
79-16-22-7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Was the cause of the fire lemons?
friggen_epic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well that sucks
eag1969 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least it wasnโt a California wildfire. You would have nothing left, not even the toilet! No DEWโs in your state, I guess.
GeneralSamson22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know the feeling
banryu95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh man.... Sorry about that. My dad's business burned down when I was in HS. It's not exactly the same, but you will recover.
MCipriani17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to hear no one was hurt! Did they figure out what started it?
railbro666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Siiiiiick
mattsfdg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Good job on covering your base. "I was at school" wink wink nod nod
Velour313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hopefully no one was hurt..
FamousBlacksmith8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks man. Had my house burn down in 1993 and I wouldnโt wish that on my worst enemy.
princess_snowwhite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry!
DOTplanet68 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Your house is LIT!
CharlieJYo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why'd you do that?
Nova_or_logan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Mythologicalcats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Scared to death of house fires ugh. Our rental burned to the ground some years ago and we lost everything with no rental insurance (first time renters, forgot to pay the annual fee, learned our lesson real hard). We live with my significant otherโs father now because he canโt take care of himself well due to age and alcoholism. Came home from work yesterday to a house filled with gas. Drunk ass left the burner on and passed out in his room. Second time heโs done it.
snoho2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh Iโm sorry :(
EricCartmayne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
RustScientist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hi, Iโm your hair straightener and I just looove living on the edge, of your sink. Ooopsie, looks like I leaned a little too far and you hair clogged sink doesnโt drain fast enough. ~flames~
Get Allstate and be better protected from mayhem, like me.
Grim_Reaper_O7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I want update on the cause of this fire.
The_400076th_pawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's rough, buddy.
betamalesforlife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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EggyBoyZeroSix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs hot
vayaconeldiablo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shits lit
BeeBanner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Congrats man!
ipoopedon911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I left my mixtape playing in there, sorry.
fbivan4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When you write up the claim be very detailed on every single belonging. I saw a post a while back that you need to say exactly what brand and model of item you had. Example donโt say โa toasterโ say โElectrolux premium double side toasting 200XL with integrated DVD player toasterโ
dcthomas82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Where are you? What do you and your family need?
brogab613 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So what's a fair market price now?
Hwangso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know your pain. Hopefully things will work out for you and yours. Prayers are with you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thats lit
C_Bowick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, bud. My house burned down like a month ago. Everything will be fine, I promise. Thankfully everyone got out safely. We lost everything and I'm sure you did too. From fire and water damage from the firefighters. But itll all be alright hang in there.
YerDedBud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is so sad
Blackneto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Happened to me in September of 18. Except I wasn't away, I was asleep at 5 in the morning when it started. Thank smoke detectors for waking us up.
mreid74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Don't hesitate to ask the Red Cross for assistance. They can give you vouchers for all kinds of things almost instantly like hotel rooms and clothing. My house burned in 2007, and I had offers from the Red Cross, but I didn't think I needed them. It would have made life a lot better for about a week because I had nothing but good friends and a couch to sleep on. Most of my belongings still existed, but were ruined. Not having shoes for a day or two sucks, and when recovered, I couldn't stand the smell. I have a better than average insurance company according to the comments. The only thing that sucked was I had to put money up for a room for a day at a hotel, but every dollar I spent was instantly reimbursed. I didn't have much money, but a local hotel owner cut me a rate of 50 percent. The fire happened on a Sunday night and my insurance company cut me a check for the full amount of the policy for the house by Thursday minus the 3K deductible. They paid for displaced housing when I rented an apartment and paid for the full six month lease even though I stayed only a month and bought another house. Everything I lost, except my Kitty, was paid for for replacement value. Even if something was obsolete, the new version was paid for no questions asked. Who are some of you people getting insurance from that delay payments or fight you? I hope you do well. It looks cold there. I hate to tell you, but you may have dreams about this for years. I still do. It happened very quickly. I woke up to the fire, but coming home to one might be just as rattling.
Ttoca420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I immediately thought about A series of Unfortunate Events
canadiangirl_eh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shit that is awful. Iโm sorry you have to go through that. I hope your future is way brighter mate!
iMaskos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Atleast your house is made outa brick
raje86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like someoneโs forming an alibi
funkytown623 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least your driveway is cleared
leezymcceazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same
DatsHim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No one believed his porn collection was fire.
DeadassBdeadassB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lots like it was pretty LIT... im sorry Iโll see myself out
Brosif101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear about the house man, thank God no one was hurt and for house insurance
TheDonBot420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I told you to listen to my mixtape outside for a reason fam.
Thatters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How
Commander_Delta_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is the Xbox ok tho
Fuzzarelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I feel for you! Had a random arsonist set our apartment/studio on fire. We werenโt home but only one of the kitties survived. A firefighter crawled under the smoke and brought Juju out, but Spock, who loved to sleep in the rafters, died from smoke inhalation. My poor baby. It was an incredibly shitty several weeks and we had no insurance. Typing this brings back all the feelings.
AsIfIShouldKnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fun, haha, I had the same thing happen to me today only I was at work and all the damage was contained to my bedroom. Fml right op?
Monsterdagger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry this happened to you man, God I couldnโt imagine what you and your family is going through. I wish you the best of luck and hope you get through this. Did anything significant besides the house get destroyed?
theatm11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Feels Bad
free112701 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hired an insurance adjuster. They got 10% but did a much better job than I ever could. They dealt with insurance company and the stress went from 100% to 15%. Highly recommend.
meatyman55555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Gage88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I always feel bad upvoting a post like this... but hereโs your upvote! If thereโs anything I can help with PM me. If your a gamer I have some games for Xbox and PlayStation. Or if you just need a beer and a slice of pizza let me know! I wish you well and hope your doing ok!
jukeboxer64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs litty
/s
Mizzleittwice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did you see the smoke from far away and think: boy, I hope that's not my house.
jukeboxer64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey now you can make charcoal chicken!
Umbra427 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs what you get for leaving your mixtape in the garage.
Seriously though, hope everyoneโs ok.
ocm506 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that was a nice house
powerfulsquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Quick, somebody link OP to that insurance adjuster post explaining how to properly put a claim in with as much description as possible.
ithinkoutloudtoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nice brick house too. I love brick houses. Iโm sorry for your loss and the aftermath that you will have to deal with.
plateishot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You didnโt leave your Xbox card remote on did you?
A-E-I-O-U_sometimesY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Aayeee, it's fucking lit
aburns678 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
There is no good way to describe the gratitude no one got hurt with the simultaneous feelings of total violation and vulnerability. Went through this two years ago. Stuff can be replaced, memories are with you forever
Koof99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Can OP legally make a GoFundMe and get insurance money?
sneaky1922 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You mean your parents house?
Siphyre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did someone through a cig into your dried brush? Cause that is what it looks like.
Wdf1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've been there. Bad times.
trolololoz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nice. Hopefully you had good coverage. You're about to get a lot of shiny things. Make sure to look at previous "how to claim" post so you know how to get that flagahip 100 inch TV that burned.
Vurondotron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:03 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My deepest sympathy to you and your family. I truly hope you guys get back on your feet as soon as possible.
SAFVoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn getting roasted while at school just got a new meaning
wasted10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So sorry...Having been through a house fire I know how devastating it is....Everything, gone, just like that.
I haven't perused the rest of the comments but I hope everyone in your family is ok, including pets. I was fortunate enough to not lose any human family members in the fire, but did lose 3 pets(RIP).
Scar555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like my neighborhood haha, hope everyone is ok
doggoborkmaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is your pet okay?
Requiem2247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oof
saltandsassbeach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, so sorry OP
tlrams01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Does it not look like the garage (?) At left is still on fire?
Wicck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is everyone okay? That seriously sucks, man. ๐
Joeeybaggadonutss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You got burned boiii
Taintly_Manspread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
.... well, guys, I think the pizza's ready.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ahah well fuck
mallison945 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How has nobody made a pun of the user name?
Cilantroduction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry this happened, glad you guys are okay, nobody hurt.
-jspace- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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LDHolliday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother died last month in a house fire, 1 week before Christmas.
Itโs a strange thing, but losing the house which she raised a lot of us in makes mourning all the harder.
Sorry for your loss OP, I wish your family luck in recovering from this.
LePepe64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well that sucks
reddot_comic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My house caught fire two years ago while we were asleep inside. I can relate to the swing of emotions you may be feeling. Iโm so so sorry that you had to go through this but very glad you and your family is safe.
jehraf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I remember getting home from school one day shortly after my uncle had moved across the state. My mom was watching the news, and on screen there was a house on fire. She asks me "You know how your uncle moved recently?". I respond, "Yeah, why?" "That's his house."
nastyboner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So?
WillSpeticSkywalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
F
CBSh61340 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My home burning down while I'm gone terrifies me. My poor pup would be stuck in her crate ๐ฑ
Auntbirdsez1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh so sorry
euphonious_munk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's a nice home you have there. Shame something happened to it :(
Nerdykatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My house caught fire a few years ago, everyone was safe except a lot of family pictures and things I had from my grandfather who had passed away. We couldnโt afford the repairs so we had to leave. Spent most of my childhood there
It sucks - there is a huge emotional toll that comes with a disaster like this. I feel for you and your family right now. I pray you and your family find peace and a place to stay. It hurts my heart seeing people go through things like this
imonlygayontuesday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
im sorry man
ChriskiV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oof
HardskiBopavous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well that sux
blackw311 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You must've gotten my mixtape then
etotrainspotting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry that this happened to you and your family. Itโs such an awful thing to be displaced like that. Everyone here is giving great advice, itโs wise to make a list, go through your bank records and price out every item that was lost. It will save you a lot of time in the long run.
This happened to my family the Christmas before last and we had an intense ordeal in which the insurance company refused to respond to any of our communications regarding temporary housing, estimates for the structural and personal loss. We finally got lawyers involved and received the settlement last November. Make sure to pester the insurance company often, it isnโt normal for a settlement to take several months. Good luck!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
oh geez, sorry man
Olivier520100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Neighborโs house caught on fire, took a long time to get back on track. Good luck, hope your familyโs safe.
UnthawedAge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So you've got your alibi, good! Next, you're gonna want to make sure... jk, sorry about your home dude :(
masterosama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
๐
WhiteLightning1102 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Back in 2002 my house burned down. We lost everything even both of our dogs. The only thing that helps is time.
TimMarkel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh! This post is lit
Edit: Also, my deepest and sincerest sympathy for you and your family. This is awful and I wouldnโt wish it upon my enemies. Hope everythingโs okay (havenโt read through the comments yet).
DeadBabyDick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
*caught
renrioku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry about your house mate, I am still financially recovering from my house burning down on June 4th 2018. It was devastating and wiped out my savings. There are a LOT of organizations that can help you out, but it is going to be very stressful for a while.
dehlias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry bro!
thirdmetacarpalbone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What a great learning experience! I'm sure God has some awesome things in store for you!
EndVry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:40 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Cue a series of unfortunate events.
cort133 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This has happened to me!! My garage is a separate building from my actual home and I got a call saying there was smoke near my house. Turns out my entire garage was on fire by the time I got home.
PM_ME_YOUR_1080 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
On the up side you now have a very big pizza oven.
I'm sorry. I hope everything is OK and you didn't lose anything important.
bigbuddhaproductions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Pacety1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I blame fire
vtec3576 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What? It was lit or there was a cause other than human? Caught on fire, maybe? How? Make some sense here. Either way, sorry for your loss.
Leviathan1110 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is weird. My family woke up today to a house fire across the street. So much smoke... Anyways, I hope you recover gracefully.
Yamche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, do I up vote this, because clever title. Or down vote because bad fire, bad BAD fire!
Grant4743 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks
NinAmuro57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, that sucks. Hope everyone is okay and that everything goes well.
dugglesdad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When I was 17 I came home from school to find the same scene... my house engulfed in flames and completely destroyed. It took me about three years to stop dwelling on it - and another two years to stop blaming my mother for causing it. She left a candle burning and it somehow spread and sent the whole house ablaze.
Now, 18 years later, I look at it as a valuable learning experience. I learned that material possessions are rather meaningless. I learned that the people in your life are what makes a home - not the physical dwelling. It has ultimately made me focus more on โexperiencesโ and less on accumulating โstuffโ.
The next few years may be tough on you, but donโt lose faith. Lean on your friends and family, this is an event that can bring you all much closer.
wangsneeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is no joke.
OP, youโre going to have a shitty time for a while even with the best of luck. And I do wish you the best of luck.
I hope everyoneโs ok, and that you get max coverage.
pinkpenguin87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I am so sorry. My moms house burned down sept 2017 and it was horrific. I hope everyone is ok!
twitchosx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My mom had an attic fire about 7 years ago. her old ass dog was sleeping in the front room with embers falling on him and he still didn't wake up. She woke up for some reason and went out to figure out why she woke up and could see shit falling on the dog (he was old as fuck). Called 911 and went outside. Didn't do TOO much damage really, but her insurance gave her money for anything that had "soot" on it. So she got new flooring for the kitchen and front room, new TV, etc. I told her to get a bigger TV at the time and she didn't think she needed one and now.... she looking for a bigger TV. Insurance took care of shit really well, but I felt bad she had to stay in a hotel for like 3 months or so.
daisysatellites ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Had this happen 12 years ago and although I was only 8/9 I still remember everything so clearly. House fires are one the worst experiences. I wish you the best and hope that you are able to be back in your home soon!!
thegreatmaster7051 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It happens
Deezybcha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I had a house fire (also electrical) in December of 2016. I'm sure things seem really overwhelming and shitty right now, but it will get better. I just remember standing on the side of the road with nothing, a million things running through my head thinking what am I am going to do... but try not to think about the big picture too much right now. Just be happy you are safe and your family is safe. Things could be so much worse. All the best to you, I hope things go smoothly with insurance and the rebuild.
jelly_blood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
SEYMOUR! THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE!
boshnack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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babbchuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Man, so sorry. Always my worse nightmare to be driving home and see smoke, and the closer yoi get the more you realize itโs your place. I hope you have good insurance, but I know youโve likely lost things that are irreplaceable
Sergio808 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I remember my apartment complex had caught on fire when i was a kid it was in 09. The fire started 2 building from mine and I was asleep but my parents woke me up after someone started banging on the door telling us there was a fire so I quickly got up and left while my dad grabbed the important stuff we couldn't lose. The whole night we watched the fire department try to put out the fire. After they had put it out we lost pretty much everything. I hope you bounce back from this op!
urskrubs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Life do be like that sometimes
funcpl4acurvyunicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:36 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Condolences
misdirectedarrogance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Cheeeeseyboi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well that really sucks
theythrottledthesite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yo this happened to me a year ago! It really sucks
TheKappp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So sorry to hear that! My house burned down when I was in high school. I hope no one was hurt. From someone who went through it, I know youโll get through it, too. Some stuff is hard to lose, but it is all just stuff. Your parents undoubtedly have homeowners insurance, so youโll be able to replace your things. I know not everything can be replaced, but Iโm glad youโre ok.
For perspective, by the next year or so after we had rebuilt the home (with insurance money), everything was back to normal. Itโs a stressful blip (way more for my mom than for me), but life goes on.
Woten333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
why is that wheat not already harvested???? Itโs winter!!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
u a music producer by any chance?
Edven971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs horrible!!!!
jvt0199 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck OP. Glad your family is safe!
Andrew109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that sucks
samgilmet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My family home burned when I was 11-13 I was sleeping at a friend's house a few houses down. Did not believe my mother when she came and told me. I only realized the scope of the situation at school the following week.
jasonfromcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:28 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why can't things like this happen the other way around--when ppl stay at home, and schools on fire.
filbruce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Happens a lot in my country 'cause kids can't buy guns.
vigorosomoon48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry about what happened to you. it will take a long time to get 100% back to normal but just by y'all having insurance will make thangs go plot smoother trust me not having insurance on your house/stuff will be really hard. So everyone please get insurance, you'll regret it if you don't( speaking from experience of hole house being flooded).
ellensundies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Huh
playr_4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least it's made of bricks.
I_died_again ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Flat next door to ours caught fire. We lived in a really bad part of the South LA "hood" so glass breaking was normal to us. The flash of orange right outside the window terrified us. I'll never forget looking out our bedroom window to an arm of flame literally eight feel away.
Turned out to be an arson case from a salty ex-tennant but I'm afraid it'll happen again one day. I hope I'm wrong.
I'm glad you all are okay OP. I hope you all get back on your feet soon. Be well.
urmomgay99887766 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why not the other way around??
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Man dude that sucks stay in there dude! In high school this house caught on fire and exactly 1 year later on the same fucking day it burnt down again. They rebuilt it and it hasn't burnt down yet and it's been 5 years haha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hope everything and everyone is ok <3
lilsnayke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
In the 5th grade I came home on the school bus to see my whole house in flames. Can relate.
Flyingdutchman2305 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
it looks mostly external damage ??? good luck though
joeblo1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well, at least you did the right thing and take a picture with your phone before you made a call to the fire depot with your phone.
The internet thanks you.
cutelord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And that's why you should quit school!
endlesstravels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When my dad was back in highschool in SoCal. One day they could see smoke coming from a nearby neighborhood, and he jokingly said that someone house was on fire. End of school hes walking home with friends and it just happened to be his house that caught on fire lol. Nothing serious thankfully, grandma was just burning to much stuff in the fireplace and it caught the roof on fire.
doggogetbamboozeld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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worstideaever2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
OP ... El Paso TX right here... If you need and give an address and well send some suplies or materials whatever I can to help you out.
Vaeghar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When i first went of to live in my own house, 2 weeks later a roof 2 houses down had lit on fire. Now, there's a webcam on the churchtower i can see my house from. After that incident i was checking that webcam multiple times a day for weeks to see if my house was not on fire.
Now, my house is 150 years old, but everything was stripped and renovated after i bought it. So everything electrical is up to code.....but still... Sometimes there's multiple house fires in a month where i live, ans most are old buildings..
Zucc-ya-mom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs hot. That is hot.
Derryb25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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ForeignSmell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
hope you have insurance and sorry for your loss
forwhombagels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is this Medford ma???
SensitiveLeading2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You left the iron on didnt you?
Funntastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
GIVE THIS MAN some upvotes for his troubles
fondlebus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Basically be specific with what youโre listing and try to just get back the equivalent of what you lost.
TBeard1914 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thats lit
Timbad20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:43:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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gullywasteman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:59 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hope my upvote helps fix it
RadicalSky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:03 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so sorry that happened to you.
Darkid94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Op, this is terrible and Iโm sorry, I canโt imagine the distraught you must be going through.
Prayers no one was injured, fur babies included.
DifferentThrows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Your fam is so lit dude
xxoites ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I am so sorry this happened to you. It happened to me once too.
Damn!
I can smell the fucking smoke.
vggb1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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springmell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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finkirk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I am so sorry. I had a house fire once. Hope everything turns out well.
jayelliott73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's heartbreaking
MaXKiLLz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did they determine the cause?
styli1000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that sucks.
pasquirlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i'm sorry about ur house, at least you got 43k upvotes lol
facundosoft ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:38:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
45.9k now
HASJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ That was lit!
ThattRam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao thatโs not funny
HASJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We ought to laugh when life does us low. It helps to wake up the next day.
Captainbabygirl767 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I am so sorry. I hope everyone and any pets you have got out safely.
AC_PecanPie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
School is literally destroying are lifes
cezzoboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks man, hopefully everything will be okay
findhumor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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Darklorel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Goes back to home, sees house on fire
karma
Jk tho hope ur fine
gh1ggs239 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's lit fam
danknotdull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:29:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That FUCKING sucks
FuckBagMcGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
"So turns out..." Just so casually
Sp4rr0w1944 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Bro thatโs TOUGH
blackasfugg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:47 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well that sucks pretty hard
MonokumaV3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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simple_barista ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I am so so sorry! My families house was caught on fire over the summer on the 4th of July by our neighbor, so I understand how shitty this must be!
michaob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's lit!
saeglopur12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn bro your house is lit af
watergo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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TheHaloNerd675 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You house burned down but at least you got fake internet points!
the_cat_has_no_legs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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MemeBoixD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well thats not epic
PRNAVY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit
Slyseth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you don't go to school
crazycanucks93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I want to know how it happen..
mellamoreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So sorry you are going through this.
Get a notebook and pens and start writing everything down that you have that got damaged. From electronics, to silverware, from cushions to toothbrushes. Everything.
Add brands if you know them. Otherways they will find a crap new toaster for $3.99 in some obscure www site and that is all you will get for a toaster. If you say Cuisinart 4 toast toaster stainless steel, now you are probably getting $50.00 to replace the toaster. You get the idea.
Ask your family members to do the same. You will need a record of the items for the insurance company to figure out compensation. If you got pics or video records, even better.
Best of luck to you!
Zeke1902 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing it was electrical issues?
EonNeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's not good, but it's pretty lit.
Hope you and your family are doing fine, OP.
robloxisdabaest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
C A L I F O R N I A I I N T E N S I F I E S
fatherCJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've been through a house fire before and it wasn't fun so I hope you do alright man beat of luck
GoogleGooshGoosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least you got a warm place to stay
treegood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:22 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
upvoteing this in a good way
831827 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
im so sorry :( i hope everything gets better and your family and you find a new house
SamL214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And this scares the shit out of me...my dad was a huge amateur film photographer. We have thousands of photos. I have scanned some, but itโs a massive undertaking and Iโm not confident enough in the postal system to send them out for professional scanning.
Not to mention the myriad of textbooks I have gotten over the years. I really need things appraised and backed up.
KaiSimple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:32 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hope no one was hurt
exotitanmale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My house burned down a few years ago it absolutely sucks. Sorry
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:06 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
U really overclocked this one too much...
LewSchiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:31 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Plan on being out of your house for a long time. we have friends staying with us who've been here close to 12 weeks for a tiny little fire in a guest bathroom. They never thought in a million years it would take so long
RealPewdsnigga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Should've been the school really
porcupinedeath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Granted we can't see the full extent in this picture, it does at least seem better than it could have been. I mean it still sucks but it could have been a pile of embers. Wish you the best going forward
pyrosbiggestfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:11 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Like comment subscribe And turn on notofications
coolplate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
well fuck. I feel sorry for you and your fam. Good luck getting things straightened out!
soqr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
my house was broken into and robbed on wednesday while nobody was home :(
TheSilentA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:51 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just get a house 4House
coalcoalcoal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Used my fireplace for the first time last night in our new to us home (without a hitch). This situation terrifies me.
AJarOfMayonnaise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit I'm so sorry I know how you feel the same thing happened to me while i was at school in october I hope everything goes well for you good luck
onlyartist6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least you're alive.. Thank God for that!
cyclopsunderground ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Crazy. I wonder what the cause was?
ASSTHETICC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
One heck of a party that must've been
PM_ME_HUEY_MEMES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Man, that's horrible. PM me if you need someone to talk to.
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KhaleesiOfCleveland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This was always my fear and why I was so paranoid if I accidentally left my hair straightener on or not lol
gladysk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is a post I saved long ago! Most valuable info on reddit!
PowMom01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:03 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I am typing this comment from my tiny temporary home while my home is being repaired from a fire on 12/22/18. The fire was the easy part, waiting to go home is the worst. Hope it goes quickly!!!
_J-Dot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:41 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shit man, donโt know what Iโd do if my house caught on fire with my dog in it while Iโm at school
nickf714 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:13 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey bub! Same thing happened to me in 7th grade! I'm mid 20s now. My heart and positive vibes go out to you! Best of luck. It's uphill from here!
ducktronboss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:41 on January 12, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is way to sad
Missladi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:31 on January 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Glad you were safe at school. Hope your family is well.
JeffieTheCoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:45 on January 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit af
Spider_Dimwit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:16 on January 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs lit
whitebread111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:47 on January 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shit my house... but think of all the karma I can get
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:23 on February 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
haha same, i went to school and when i came back my entire hometown was gone in the california campfire
Electrikmelon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:58 on July 7, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Stay in School kids.
forksinyoureyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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HillDrag0n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
that's a RIP. gl, mate.
Gab252 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:58 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
at least it's a brick house
Patticakepop66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. And sheโs mighty mighty...
theshaeman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:37 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just letting it all hang out.
Kairus00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Probably wood frame with brick facade.
Gab252 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I sure hope not
MyComicBox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did you try turning it off and on again?
In all seriousness, this sucks and I wish you better days.
Gingerstop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This might be useful to you -- nice long post... https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/a3zhsq/parents_house_burnt_down_now_what/
raadlove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/R7UrFYvl5TE
STMSnibby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
House: Burns down
Me: KARMA
but seriously hope all goes well.
Paretio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Been there, man. Take whatever Red Cross offers and sign nothing without a lawyer. I'm still out 9k on antique furniture.
PepeSilvia105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I was outside sittin in the chair then I open the do and I said man my house is on fire.
Omny87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:42 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No TardMcGee, it's just the Northern Lights.
spectreoutreach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Op, hope you and your family is unharmed
Talonize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It feels weird upvoting this. If you start a gofundme, Iโll send a few dollars your way. Wonโt be much, but itโll make me feel better.
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:24 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Idk man just seems surreal
elboogie7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This. This is why I can't enjoy movie theaters. lol
RemoisHB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
He can say the N-word now
Gerbal_Annihilation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My first text would be to my family "It's lit fam".
Veeoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:06 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
*caught fire
m0nkeypantz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:28 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit comment
mslowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
So sorry for your family's loss. Prayers for you and them
3575 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:23 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm i see if i burn my house down i can get 13k internet points
VictorZiblis ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:04:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
OP? If your family has a house that size, your family has insurance. It will suck for a bit and you'll lose some sentimental items, but you're not going to be homeless.
Everyone laughs when a trailer home burns down but guess what? That person has "lost" a lot more than the upper middle class person would.
eric987235 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:57:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do people laugh when a trailer home burns down? Sounds like some shitty people.
hail_jefe ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 00:52:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No offense and sorry for your loss but was it by chance your fault. Just based on user name
Nova_or_logan ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:27:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
what the hell
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Based on the downvotes I'd say yes
AnotherHamster ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 02:12:20 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Your parents dont appreciate you posting their house on the internet for points after a tragedy.
photoguy9813 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh? How do you know?
HercBRX ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:51:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'd send some money your way to help out but my house looks worse
ScagWhistle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:32:33 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It'll buff out.
astralduelist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:41:07 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just rebuild the house 4Head
popcolarsgrill ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:14:21 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well,i guess i have to say it...
That's lit.
_-__-__-__-__-_-_-__ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:20:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit AF
loodog ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:23:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is that Pampas grass ok!?
F4R13Y ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:25:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry about that I hope yโall get it back up soon. Wish you the best of luck and may god bless you
F4R13Y ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:26:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I will be praying for yโall
dehlias ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:29:35 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
LIT
CahkShlap ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:36:12 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Did you leave a candle lit?
Goku_Kakarot91 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:48:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
r/funnyandsad
biblesilvercorner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:56:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn thatโs lit
R66mukypsis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:03:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fucki'n christ!!!
miloszonreddit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:08:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well that sucks
Laurensmatthijs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:45:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I love that your first thought was: Oh, redditโs gonna love this!
HellaBrainCells ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:26:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Quick lemme post this on Reddit
sidneydancoff ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:37:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs lit fam.
Also, do you guys gave insurance?
qwerteto ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:44:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
lit
corylaflamme ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:26:26 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
IT WORKED!!
t40rn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:57:25 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey... that's pretty... LIT.
kych19 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:29:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hehe it's lit fam hehe
LxkeO ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:41:09 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ur house must be a lit spot
The_common_sixniner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:50:13 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
Pipin_Hot_Chili ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:38:54 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thats lit
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:20:05 on January 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck school
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 03:54:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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DeadBabyDick ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:28:34 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What makes you think they have money?
vigorosomoon48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf dude
BubbaBacon ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 01:46:05 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit ๐๐๐๐ผ๐๐ผ๐๐ผ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
vigorosomoon48 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:52 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
so this is a joke to you?
Kyidou ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 02:02:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit-erally
plaf05 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:50 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Silver Lining: sweet sweet karma
๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:35:19 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yeah wasn't really thinking my post would gain this much attention
shoeshackeddie ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:16 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Shits lit ๐ฅ
McSp4zzatr0nn ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:58:08 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
that's what happens when you put on my mixtape
luibot ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:46 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hate it when people overcook Eggos too
elxclusivlyonline ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:30 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I hate when that happens. Why it happened to me a couple times today! Best of luck to you
nitr0zeus133 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:29 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โMight as well farm some karma out of it.โ
hentailover1600 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:44 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This makes Sal tonightโs biggest loser
saconomics ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure it's too late to establish an alibi.
cooperthor_ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
In November I was in the Camp Fire in California, my entire town burned down.
ILikeVancouver ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Look at you, trying to establish an alibi!
simon96peter ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
f
wop1312 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:10 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit
WarioIsStalinsFather ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:14 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Le epic
Nevercheckingmyinbox ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:57 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Forgot to unplug your curling iron again?
Mammoth007 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:38 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you could say last night's party was.... Lit.
steve2166 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:00 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
wow that looks lit
makenonono ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:53 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thats lit
lillabofinken ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's lit
MardGeer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit
JohhnyQuasar ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ooof. At least you will be warm this winter
Emil1w33455678 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you could say thats.. LIT
ImaginPenguins ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That happened to me when I was 12. We lost everything except two pictures of Jesus in the Bible. Everything happens for a reason
c_beararms8 ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 01:39:49 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least you have a house
ImCuriousYouSee ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:40:18 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
About that... you see it caught fire..
c_beararms8 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:45 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And you have heat. Rub it in why dont you
Eclipse2989 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:09:02 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
How? Its covered in snow...
notracist12345 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:45:27 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think you meant to title this โI got high before class, left the stove on, and burnt my house down.โ
TheLeviathan918 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:48 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Your house burned down? That really sucks, have some worthless internet karma
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 05:32:56 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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๐๏ธ TardMcGee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:35:15 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
B8
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:44:39 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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lightnessdarknessfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:01 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Reported for being offensive as fuck. They lost their home, be glad that you have one and don't treat others like this.
Salty__chips ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 06:19:17 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Haha loser ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
badwolf_83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:09:55 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You're a real asshole, aren't you?
Splittsky ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 02:08:41 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lit
Sycoskater ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 02:13:43 on January 11, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that really does suck..
Not as good as yo momma ;) Ba-da bum, Tss