Not cool dude. If it's not okay for them to do it, it's not okay for you to do it.
๐๏ธ JGV_BL_YAOI ยท -111 points ยท Posted at 18:10:06 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
No! I'm tired of blacks thinking they can get away with being racist savages! Why cant they just act like normal civilized people and stop being 55% of crime when only being 13% of the population? What the fuck is wrong with them?
It's usually super obvious one way or the other, so points for being ambiguous at least
๐๏ธ JGV_BL_YAOI ยท -98 points ยท Posted at 18:26:13 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not a parody it's all truth. Seriously, why are blacks just terrible? Why do they have to glorify crime? Why is it that when I got on the bus yesterday it was quiet but then a group of 6 blacks got on suddenly it was loud and I could barely hear my music through my ear buds turned up loud?
tweez ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 21:54:46 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve had two negative run ins with black guys who desperately wanted to start a fight for some reason but I donโt think thatโs indicative of a whole race. The black college students who are on social media seem overly entitled but so do most of the vocal college age kids and most probably people wouldโve said the same about my age group if social media was more of a thing then. The black people Iโve worked with or know to talk to all hate the gangster culture thatโs promoted and have been at pains to point that out (not that they should have to explain themselves if their actions arenโt anything to do with that kind of thing).
How old were the people who got on the bus? You sure that a group of white girls that age wouldnโt be as loud?
People from all groups online are usually the most extreme as theyโre the voices that people point to. A reasonable comment isnโt going to get as much attention as some insane rambling. Donโt let people posting more extreme positions online colour your real life interactions. Most people are ok and couldnโt care less about you one way or another they just want to keep their head down and spend time with people they care about and do what they can to get by. Most people donโt want to make your life worse.
The only logical position is to treat people as individuals and not as a group as Iโm sure you wouldnโt want to be judged by the worst of whatever social group you belong.
White, Black, Asian, middle eastern, we are all one people and should come together as one
I should have warned you that you'll get a lot of pushback for even suggesting a partisan lean in this sub... even though, at the same time, they will justify some of the overt racism by claiming there is a lot of natural crossover between KiA and T_D... oh how the irony is lost on most people.
I've been in this sub for three years, did you really think that your pathetic talk of "subtle shifts" like the average conspiracy theorist was going to convince me you were the sole holder of all truth or something?
You're correct for once: "conspiracy theorist" is overestimating your intelligence.
Just look how many transphobic and FPH posts get posted.
Examples? Oh, right, transtrenders and fat people who are assholes and entitled about it shouldn't be criticized... because you say so, I assume. Because this sub only mocks transtrenders and "fat acceptance" morons.
Pathetic and incorrect, the funniest kind of pathetic.
This isn't coming from nowhere. I never said trans/fat people shouldn't be mocked if they deserve to be mocked. But there are comments that get upvoted in posts about fat people that are shittalking them just because they're fat.
You keep making strawmen that I'm not even saying. You're fighting something that isn't there. You're acting like a 15 year old.
Alright, smart guy, do tell me, what makes that guy in any way a veritable source? He isn't and that you even pretended otherwise is... I probably shouldn't say "idiotic" but I just can't think of another word.
But that goes without saying at this point.
This isn't coming from nowhere. I never said trans/fat people shouldn't be mocked if they deserve to be mocked. But there are comments that get upvoted in posts about fat people that are shittalking them just because they're fat.
Again, examples? And don't think I missed that you went from "posts" to "comments" because your case gets weaker with every comment and you can't even help yourself.
Delightful.
You're acting like a 15 year old.
And you don't even get to that level... with all due respect to actual children who do know the value of backing up what they say.
The dude created an app, as clearly written, that just crossreferences different subs. The info you're looking for is right there.
Posts and comments are both present. Next time one pops up I'll make sure to send it your way.
Why are you so grouchy? You're so aggressive. Chill out. You're acting like I'm attacking you personally by saying that a sub that makes fun of people also has a high amount of racism and other -isms. It's not hard to believe.
Edit: After checking your post history, I can see you're one of the racists and transphobic people I'm talking about.
The amount of posts you have passing pseudoscience that's been disproven for 100 years as fact is baffling. You're bringing up information proven false and that was used to push eugenics. You're also wrong about the genders, and that's provable.
You're also extremely bitter and seem to fight with everyone. I wouldn't be surprised if you were subbed to /r/braincels.
Edit 2: Also, holy shit, stop using greentext. This isn't 4chan. No one thinks you're cool.
The dude created an app, as clearly written, that just crossreferences different subs. The info you're looking for is right there.
Give me the source code, as far as I saw, the guy just read some old post in, IDK, buzzfeed or something that compared subs and decided that the article was right and so his "app" just returns whatever the article compared.
Posts and comments are both present. Next time one pops up I'll make sure to send it your way.
So you had no evidence for all the stupid bullshit you have said up until this point. Shocker.
It's not hard to believe.
You really don't get it, do you? You guys are great. No, pal, whatever you think is or isn't hard to believe doesn't even remotely matter.
Your perception is worthless, you're nobody and nobody has to agree with you. For that matter, whatever you think, negate it and you're more likely to be right.
Claim is made, then evidence is collected to support claim. We are in step 2 of that process. I don't know why you're having a hard time with that. You think people do studies after evidence has already been collected? lol
Go outside. You seem really unhappy. Also, you can have the last word. I can tell you need it so you can feel good about yourself for 'telling off those EssJayDubbyahs.' Go on. Make it a good one. Show everyone how much you need attention and to feel superior.
Claim is made, then evidence is collected to support claim. We are in step 2 of that process. I don't know why you're having a hard time with that.
That's for hypotheses, genius.
You made a statement of fact about a noticeable trend that, according to you, has been going on for years; the only way that claim makes sense is if you actually have examples of this trend showing itself.
Also, you can have the last word.
Hahahahahahaha never, never not a transparent attempt at precisely trying to get the last word.
You guys usually think that'll deter the other person from replying, and maybe it works in whatever echo chamber you crawled out of. But I'm having way too much fun.
Show everyone how much you need attention and to feel superior.
"Everyone"? Nobody's reading this thread pal, it became a link in the main one like 6 comments ago, seriously, how self-important are you? A lot, obviously, all SJWs are.
to feel superior.
"Feel superior"? Compared to what? You? You really think yourself a bar?
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Arizth ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:23:28 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I'm conflicted.
On the one hand, this is the sort of racist shit that we really shouldn't be accepting of.
On the other hand, this matches up with my anecdotal experience of mass transit in black dominated neighborhoods, and I'm not certain how I feel about that.
If you get 6 good friends of any ethnicity together odds are it will be a ruckus.
Just because I roll my eyes when I see a loud group of stereotypical white teenage girls coming, doesn't mean it is reflective on anyone but that specific group.
Su-zan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:42:44 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Of course they do. When it supports their beliefs reality has a liberal bent. When it conflicts with their world views facts are racist and truth is a social construct.
Onithyr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:32:29 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It won't matter that we all disagree and downvote it to hell, it's here therefore it "represents" us.
What's wrong with them is a victimhood mentality beaten into them by the left. That being said it's not even close to all of them. We are speaking about a loud minority. The crime statistic can be explained through looking at the financial and cultural status of the perpetrators. Poverty breeds crime sadly. You still shouldn't make generalizations about a group of people for the actions and words of the people we see here. You looked far to long in the abyss.
zartolos ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:12:16 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Poverty may breed crime, but it's rather disproportionate. Cultural factors definitely play a role, but it wouldn't matter if they were any race, just that as a race, they happened to create that culture.
It doesn't help that a legal system with entrenched anti-black biases still exists in many places (looking at YOU Alabama), and existed explicitly until constitutional amendments arose in the 1960s.
My gf is in law school and brought up one case of the death penalty in the 1980s where a white guy falsely accused a black man of murder. The black man was at a home bbq with 12+ witnesses at the time, and was rebuilding the transmission of the "getaway car" in his driveway with his father. A white guy came to collect a credit payment on furniture and reported seeing him as well. The false accuser then said he wouldn't lie on the stand, but was then compelled by police to do so when he wanted a way off death row. This was in Alabama.
When the black man's lawyer motioned to move the case to a different county to secure a racially diverse jury, they moved to the only county with a largely white (9% black) population because they KNEW they'd secure a death sentence - and did so in 1 day. This happened in the mid 1980s! I can only imagine this shit still goes on all over the place, even if it isn't as obvious.
tweez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:59:10 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Did the guy get executed then? I get police being corrupt when theyโre making money or gaining personally from the corruption like in the documentary about the precinct in New York where the police were essentially enforcers for cocaine gangs, but how can someone live with themselves knowing theyโve made someone lie to get a person the death penalty?
But there are more poor whites in the us than blacks but blacks commit more crime so it can't just be poverty (or slavery) It's about time people stopped excusing people for their shitty lifestyle choices. You would think the best way out of poverty would be to get a good education and thus a decent job, but for some reason being poor makes you drop out of school more than another type of poor people and poverty also seems to make an awful lot of single parent families. Now i'm not trying to claim that racism doesn't exist but to blame all your communities problems on poverty (and white people as it's obviously white people keeping them down) is not helping the problem whatsoever.
No! I'm tired of you thinking you can get away with being a racist savage! Why can't you just act like a normal civilized person and stop contributing 55% of the racism on this sub, we all know you have less than 13% of the braincells that an average ape has. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Red580 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:54:11 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
This separates the racists and the normal people, because the explanation is simple, the ghetto, even parts of the ghetto with mostly white people have the same increase in crime.
Is there a way to contact mods? Someone help me out. Iโve seen this dumbass on 3+ posts talking smack about everything besides white people. He hates blacks, trans people, and whatnot and he harassed those who defend it
Exactly this would be my guess. Real rascists have their own Hangouts and don't step out if their echo chamber just to get smacked down by average shitlords.
I could almost believe it if it was a rascist triggering the more sensitive subs.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? Iโll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and Iโve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Iโm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youโre fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thatโs just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little โcleverโ comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldnโt, you didnโt, and now youโre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youโre fucking dead, kiddo.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? Iโll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and Iโve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Iโm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youโre fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thatโs just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little โcleverโ comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldnโt, you didnโt, and now youโre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youโre fucking dead, kiddo.
โMy faith says if I tell someone theyโre banned, they will stop responding.โ
Then the person continues responding.
How do you ignore the fact that you saying banned did not, in fact, have any effect?
Also, I know you say โcheckmateโ when youโve said something you THINK is so amazing youโve won the argument. You say checkmate waaaaaaaay too often, as demonstrated by the fact that the argument continues after many, many โcheckmates.โ
Ever notice how after I issue a ban the other person ALWAYS eventually stops commenting? Ask yourself if they will still be commenting 20 years from now in the year 2038. If you are truthful your answer will be: no, they wonโt still be commenting. Do you think thatโs coincidence? The answer is: no, itโs the work of the LORD and they are following his BAN command.
People get bored eventually. And theyโll still use Reddit after your โban.โ When they no longer use Reddit, theyโll still use the Internet. Who knows if Reddit will still be relevant in 2038. They probably wonโt be commenting on Reddit, specifically, because I doubt Reddit will still be around. I am VERY confident that theyโll be using the internet, or whatever worldwide information sharing system has taken its place. I do not for an instant believe your attempted ban will deter anyone from anything.
And I can ban you. Doesnโt mean itโll do anything. Even though you say that only you can ban people, my โbanโ would be exactly as effective as yours.
Besides, I like swears. A watered down, censored internet would be sad.
I disagree with you. I grew up in a very sanitized, swear free environment. We didnโt even say fart, butt, or shut up, much less acronyms like WTF or words that were derived from swears, like dang or gosh (derived from damn and God.)
It was MISERABLE. I swear now, and I am much happier, my mental health is better, and itโs easier to express myself because I donโt have to think about censoring myself in every conversation.
Also, youโre right. I canโt ban you. You also canโt ban me. You say you can ban me, but that doesnโt make it the case. You may even believe you can ban me, but itโs still not true.
Again, not REMOTELY what I have experienced. I might rather die than go back to the church. I was so miserable I nearly committed suicide a few times over. I feel extremely lucky to have gotten out.
As for your โbans,โ you havenโt successfully banned anyone. People you โbannedโ within the last week are still commenting on Reddit and still swearing. Just because they arenโt interacting directly with you doesnโt mean you accomplished anything.
At my lowest point, I swore occasionally, but I limited myself to โminorโ swears. I realized I enjoyed speaking that way, and realizing that living a life contrary to the things I had been told was rough. It made me feel like my whole life had been terrible for no reason. So I stopped limiting my language at all, renounced my religion, and became happier. When Iโm around my parents and have to pretend to still follow their values (which seem similar to yours) itโs exhausting.
Iโve done that. Up until Iโd say my second semester of college, I used zero swears. It was awful. It was NOT ultimate happiness. And yes, I was briefly a little less happy when I started to be less rigid, but that was not because of my so called sins, it was because I was realizing that I had lived a dull, constructed life that made me unhappy for no reason other than someone told me to. Iโd liken it to pulling out a splinterโ pulling out the splinter might hurt, but after itโs gone you feel so much better. Religion based restrictions on how I could live my life were a splinter.
Ok think about it like this: if you walked out of your house and got hit by a truck and died, and you found yourself in front of St. Peter at the pearly gates, would you walk up to him and scream the F-word at him and spit in his face, or would you calmly and politely ask him if you were being admitted into heaven? If you answer honestly you will have to admit that you would never swear at St. Peter because you know it would effect your own happiness level negatively.
Firstly, I donโt believe in St. Peter. However, Iโll address this.
You have to consider context. I wouldnโt scream anything at anybody. If I were meeting a stranger or an authority figure, of course I would be polite and appropriate. Cursing would be inappropriate there. I could scream โbeef jerkyโ and it would also be unprofessional.
In the right context, swear words can add to a conversation. You donโt believe there is any appropriate context to swears, I know. I disagree.
As for โwholesome talk only,โ I think intent is much more important. If I met a friend I hadnโt seen in a long time and they said โbuddy, I missed you so fucking much!โ that would make me happy. Not only did they say they missed me, they did it emphatically and in a way that indicated they were comfortable being emotional with me. If they said โI wish you werenโt here because youโre annoying and I hate your face,โ that would make me sad, because though it didnโt have swears, it was a mean and hurtful thing to say.
Ok think about it like this: would you waterboard a vegan with pigs blood until they choke on it and are forced to injest it? If you answer honestly the answer is no because you respect their beliefs. Then donโt waterboard Decent Christians with swears that their brains are forced to process and injest. Respect all beliefs. Simple as that.
I do respect beliefs. Thatโs why I havenโt cursed at you. However, water boarding someone is actively trying to hurt them, while cursing around someone who doesnโt like it is not malicious. Itโs just not changing something from the standard. If I hated the color blue, thatโs my problem. The world has no obligation to stop using blue.
To use your analogy: cursing around someone who doesnโt like it is like eating meat in the presence of a vegan. The vegan might not like it, and may even find the sight and the odor offensive. However, the person eating isnโt doing it to harm the vegan. Thatโs just what they eat.
I see your point but itโs not quite right. Once a swear word enters your ear, where does it go? Your brain. And what does your brain do? Process that swear, and you literally have no choice in the matter. Using swear words is the moral equivalent to hog tying a vegan and water boarding them with pigs blood until they swallow some of the blood and their body processes it.
I disagree. Firstly, I disagree because I believe intent matters a great deal. Secondly, a vegan smelling meat, technically, has to inhale meat particles and have them bind to odor receptors in the nose. It would still be unreasonable to ban eating meat in public because a vegan might have to process some. If the vegan is so against it, then the onus is on the vegan to avoid situations in which meat might be eaten. Similarly, if curse words are so offensive to you that you believe anyone using them in your presence (Not at you) is hateful, then the internet might not be the place for you.
You canโt ask others to alter their behavior for you, if their behavior isnโt about you. Hunting down and force feeding a vegan is very different than inadvertently exposing them to meat through your normal day-to-day activities.
I see your thought process, but you still havenโt quite grasped the concept. Think about it like this: not everyone is a vegan, but some people are. Does that mean we are free to drive around in a van and kidnap random people off the street and handcuff them and waterboard them with pigs blood until their stomach fills with pigs blood on the off chance that they are not vegans? No we canโt do that because itโs not kind to do to ANYONE, just like itโs not kind to swear at anyone.
And I think there are lots of people who donโt mind swearing at all. There are people who I would totally swear at. And there are people who would swear at me. I know you think this โwaterboarding with pigโs bloodโ thing is a great analogy, but it really, really isnโt, because it greatly exaggerates the intensity and it completely ignores context and intent.
Think about it like this: if you were a lifelong vegan would you care about โcontext and intentโ if you were strapped on to a table and a group of masked men waterboarded you with the warm blood of a pig they just slaughtered in front of you until your stomach literally burst open and you died from sepsis? If you answer truthfully you will be forced to admit that you wouldnโt care about the context they were waterboarding you under, and you should adopt a swear-free lifestyle.
Again, what youโre describing is NOWHERE NEAR being exposed to swear words, and if you truly believe it is, youโre actually delusional. I donโt say that as an insult. If you believe swearing around you is the same as a horrific murder, there is actually something wrong with your brain and therapy might be healthy.
Are you even listening to me? I dont have a problem, Iโm saying we SHOULDNT waterboard vegans with animal blood even if our baser instincts tell us we should. Just like swearing.
Iโm listening. Of course we shouldnโt waterboard vegans with blood. What kind of person would even think of that? Thatโs not a thing people do.
Swearing IS NOT morally equivalent to whatever twisted scenario youโve drummed up as an analogy. If you have a problem with me swearing, thatโs not my problem. If you think itโs so morally repugnant you need to compare it to murder, youโre wrong.
Think about it like this: picture a smug vegan, constantly judging and looking down on others for eating meat. Most people would jump at the chance to handcuff them and drip just a little bit of pigs blood into their mouth in order to knock them off of their high horse a little bit.
The reason I said checkmate was because of the fact that you were judging me for wanting to waterboard vegans with pigs blood in order to get revenge, and Jesus said not to judge others lest you be judged, and that was such a good point that I won the argument.
Think about it like this: if you forcibly waterboarded a vegan with pigs blood wouldnโt they be less likely to use swear words afterwards? And wouldnโt this increase their chances of getting into heaven? And if thatโs the case wouldnโt they see the error of their ways and thank you eventually?
....no, there are no benefits to waterboarding a vegan with pigs blood. It has nothing to do with their swearing, unless youโre torturing them for the sake of behavior modification, and it has no bearing on their potential afterlife.
Right but it still represents the LORD. Can we at least agree on the fact that swearing is a sin, and that sinners should be forced to change their ways by the use of physical force and coercion, and part ways as friends?
We cannot agree on that. I do not believe swearing is a sin, and I do not believe it needs to be changed, and I CERTAINLY do not agree that physical force is an acceptable option.
Firstly, Iโd like to be clear that I donโt think I should compel anyone to speak in any way, and if thereโs a situation where language I donโt like is commonly used, I would remove myself. Itโs not my job or my right to tell others how to speak.
If I were compelled to try and stop them, my strategy would be education.
Education! Thatโs what Iโm trying to do on reddit every day. I knew we would find common ground. I message people every time they swear on reddit and educate them about the dangers of using cuss words.
Your education comes off as condescending and borderline deranged, as well as inaccurate. Itโs as if I tried to โeducateโ people that eating lemons would send them to hell. Itโs not true. And providing proof that is meaningful only to me, such as my Holy Book of Donโt Eat Lemons, it wouldnโt change anything. It would make me look loony.
Edit: I typed โaccurateโ when I meant โinaccurateโ
Mhm. I hadnโt considered that I come across that way to people. I just figured it was sinners desperately holding on to sin and denying the truth at all costs.
The vast majority of people genuinely do not believe what you believe. Your attempts to force them to live the way you think they should just leaves a bad taste in their mouth.
Iโm Buddhist. I donโt go around screaming it or trying to force others to live by Buddhist tenets, or point out when their actions have bad karma. I just take care of people who need it in visible, tangible ways. I feed them. I give them clothes. And if they ask, Iโll teach them what I believe or tell them where they can go to learn it. I donโt focus on changing people. I focus on helping them. People are capable of finding their way.
Ok letโs revisit the water boarding analogy for a minute. Think about the amount of personal satisfaction you would achieve if you tied a vegans hands and ankles together and poured warm pigs blood into their mouth until they inadvertently swallowed some of it. A lot of personal satisfaction right? Now picture saving your fellow brothers and sisters from a sin even greater than smugness: swearing. Thatโs the amount of satisfaction I feel every single day my friend.
Seriously. Normal people donโt get that satisfaction from sadism. Especially not sadism as twisted as what youโre describing. Seriously. Thatโs just sick.
Wait, your god wants to waterboard people with pigโa blood? Or are you just saying your god enjoys causing pain? Because those are the people I called sadists. I didnโt put your god into those categories, but you responded as if I did.
As far as I know the Bible doesnโt go into specifics on whether he enjoys stopping sin by force so I canโt be certain, but something tells me he gets a little twinkle in his eye ;)
No he wouldnโt, because Iโm not worthy of worship and a god wouldnโt worship a human.
A suggestion: before you try to be clever with your reversals, actually think about what you wrote. You just wrote that your god would worship me. That sounds like blasphemy.
Oh right. Sorry I didnโt mean it that way. I said it because sometimes when people say โI donโt believe in godโ I respond with โbut he believes in youโ and 99% of the time that checkmates them and I win the argument.
Oh yes I can. I plan on getting several laws passed that would make swearing on the internet punishable by heavy fines and harsh jail sentences. Letโs see who is swearing then pal!
Thatโs not going to happen. I know itโs your goal, but itโs just not going to happen, both because itโs unreasonable and because laws enacted solely for religious reasons are frowned upon. Separation of church and state and all that.
I think free will is the idea. Plus, you canโt force people to believe things. How would you like it if Buddhists joined forces with the government and you had to become a vegetarian and listen to sutras and meditate to achieve enlightenment?
Right but most major religions in the world are based on the origins of Christianity (treating others with kindness etc) seems like Chinese people today have forgotten their roots.
Thatโs not at all true. Christianity, like Judaism and Islam, is an Abrahamic religion. Christianity itself has only been around about two thousand years. Lots of religions are older.
Iโm saying they are based on pre-Christ Christianity. The Bible starts at the creation of the world. Donโt try to pretend that any religion pre-dates the creation of the world.
The world did not begin six thousand years ago. I used to believe it did, and I doubt you can give me any argument that I have not considered, studied, and ultimately rejected. If you say that the universe is only a few millennia old, you are factually incorrect.
Also, pre-Christ Christianity has a name. Itโs called Judaism.
The dinosaurs lived over sixty million years ago. We can tell based on how deeply buried their fossils are and through carbon dating. The dinosaurs support an old earth, not a young earth.
Thatโs one theory, but science also proves that God placed dinosaur bones in ancient burial grounds to test our faith. Looks like you failed the test :(
Can you cite your sources? Peer reviewed and reputable, please. Because I can find scores of research backing up the age of the dinosaurs. Or are you suggesting your god was purposefully deceptive in his alleged creation of the earth?
I do not accept that source. It is not a scientific source. Were your theory about the young earth scientifically valid, it would have multiple sources of evidence.
Also, I would not accept any sort of relationship with someone who set out to trick me. That person would be deceptive, and I do not like deceptive people. If your god tricks us, I reject him.
You arenโt really grasping this concept. Think about it this way: what if I told you I was going to give you $1.00, but instead I tricked you and handed you 1 million dollars cash in a duffle bag. Would you reject that trick? Didnโt think so.
And you donโt seem to understand my concept. I would accept the money, sure, but I would also think you were trying to be funny and just were very bad at it. Whatโs godโs motivation for lying? Also, isnโt lying a sin? Sounds like youโre accusing your god of lying.
I think this is more like staging a crime and then laughing at the police for spending resources investigating it.
You havenโt been able to connect the dots so far. Let me spell it out for you in simple terms: vegan. Waterboarding. Pigs blood. How is that a trick, and donโt you think if the LORD did something this extreme he must have a good reason for doing so?
Youโre connecting dots that donโt connect. I think thereโs something wrong with you. Iโm sorry to be blunt, but the things you are saying do not make sense.
If god enjoys causing pain, heโs a sadist.
If god tries to deceive us, heโs a liar.
In addition, you have some weird views:
You believe all people would like to hurt other people.
You think swearing is on par with a torturous murder.
You think a theocracy would be good, but wonโt even consider what it would be like to live in a theocracy that didnโt line up exactly with your very specific views.
All of that demonstrates a shocking lack of empathy.
No. Your fixation on what YOU deem to be immoral indicates some abnormal psychology. Your dividing line is arbitraryโ โdamnโ is a sin, but โdangโ is fine, for example. The King James Bible is the translation that you cling to, even though itโs not the most accurate translation, the most readable, or the most relevant.
You make connections that donโt exist. Thatโs something that points to delusion.
Again, you donโt seem to have true empathy beyond your idea that youโre โsavingโ people, even though you arenโt.
Iโm not calling you a bad person. But something in your mind isnโt wired right.
While I appreciate this discussion very much, I do not appreciate you typing dirty swear words at me at all. I will not hesitate to bring the full power of my bans down on your head the next time you type the D-word at me.
And the president always swears on a King James Bible when becoming president, so the King James Bible is quite literally his source of power, and the source of power for the entire United States Of America. And guess what: You wont find a single swear word in the whole dang book!
Iโm not swearing at you. The word is relevant. For that matter, โdamn,โ โdamned,โ and โdamnnationโ are all in the King James Bible. Would you like the references?
Roosevelt didnโt swear on a Bible. Adams and Pierce swore in on law books. Johnson swore in on a Catholic missal. You are factually incorrect.
Right, but George Washington swore on the Bible and that was what gave America it's initial power. Not every single president has to do it, but once in a while they have to because the power levels would go down with time. This is written into the constitution and is mere tradition.
Please show me where in the Constitution it says the nation gets its power from the President swearing on the Bible. Article and line, please.
And again, I would like you to acknowledge that the Bible has variations of the word โdamn.โ It also says โass.โ
It does not, however, contain the word โkangaroo.โ Therefore, if the Bible not using a word makes it a swear, then the word โkangarooโ is a swear.
The Bible technically says those words, but the Bible was written by the finger of God and he does a lot of things we can't do like smiting people. So when he uses the D-word he is doing it in his infinite wisdom, and humans do not have infinite wisdom, therefore we can NEVER use the D-word.
The King James version of the Bible was written by the finger of God, not Paul himself. This has been proven time and again by the best archaeologists in the world and at this point is no longer up for debate to reasonable people who accept reality.
And God can't sin. I see how you would be confused because his finger wrote what appears to be dirty harmful swears to the untrained eye. Please keep in mind that it is the LORD writing them, and he works in mysterious ways.
The King James Version of the Bible was a translation commissioned by King James to distance the newly formed Church of England from the Puritan churchโs doctrine. The translators were given instructions to make sure that their translation upheld political views of the time.
I do not believe the Bible was written by a god. Parts of it were written by Bronze Age tribes in the Middle East, and other parts were written in the latter years of the Roman Empire by a then-minority religion trying to distinguish themselves from the polytheistic doctrines of the time. Please show me the papers from these โbest archaeologists,โ as well as the archaeologistsโ credentials.
While youโre at it, you still havenโt shown me where in the Constitution it says that America gets its power from the President swearing on a specific bible translation. The entire text of the Constitution is accessible online, so it should t be hard for you to find.
Constitutional proof: "Whereas Four hundred and eighty-one years ago the rediscovery of this Family of Islands, Rocks and Cays heralded the rebirth of the New World; And Whereas the People of this Family of Islands recognizing that the preservation of their Freedom will be guaranteed by a national commitment to Self-discipline, Industry, Loyalty, Unity and an abiding respect for Christian values and the Rule of Law; Now Know Ye Therefore: We the Inheritors of and Successors to this Family of Islands, recognizing the Supremacy of God and believing in the Fundamental Rights and Freedoms of the Individual, Do Hereby Proclaim in Solemn Praise the Establishment of a Free and Democratic Sovereign Nation founded on Spiritual Values and in which no Man, Woman or Child shall ever be Slave or Bondsman to anyone or their Labour exploited or their Lives frustrated by deprivation, and do Hereby Provide by these Articles for the indivisible Unity and Creation under God of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas."
Biblical Proof: and in acknowledgment of our obligations to God, our obligations to the homeland and the citizens, and our commitment to fundamental principles and our responsibility to Mankind, ... we have amended the existing Constitution"
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saywee123 ยท 301 points ยท Posted at 17:15:20 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Well I suppose it was only a matter of time.
Lord-Black22 ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 20:10:37 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, we've come full circle. Making fun of people who say everything that white people do is racist is now itself racist...
NeVeRwAnTeDtObEhErE_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:59 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Summed up perfectly!
๐๏ธ JGV_BL_YAOI ยท -128 points ยท Posted at 17:15:45 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Blacks are truly a mess
DoctorDark3 ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 18:07:27 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Not cool dude. If it's not okay for them to do it, it's not okay for you to do it.
๐๏ธ JGV_BL_YAOI ยท -111 points ยท Posted at 18:10:06 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
No! I'm tired of blacks thinking they can get away with being racist savages! Why cant they just act like normal civilized people and stop being 55% of crime when only being 13% of the population? What the fuck is wrong with them?
HinkieGivesMeCummies ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 18:19:44 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if this is parody or not.
It's usually super obvious one way or the other, so points for being ambiguous at least
๐๏ธ JGV_BL_YAOI ยท -98 points ยท Posted at 18:26:13 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not a parody it's all truth. Seriously, why are blacks just terrible? Why do they have to glorify crime? Why is it that when I got on the bus yesterday it was quiet but then a group of 6 blacks got on suddenly it was loud and I could barely hear my music through my ear buds turned up loud?
tweez ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 21:54:46 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve had two negative run ins with black guys who desperately wanted to start a fight for some reason but I donโt think thatโs indicative of a whole race. The black college students who are on social media seem overly entitled but so do most of the vocal college age kids and most probably people wouldโve said the same about my age group if social media was more of a thing then. The black people Iโve worked with or know to talk to all hate the gangster culture thatโs promoted and have been at pains to point that out (not that they should have to explain themselves if their actions arenโt anything to do with that kind of thing).
How old were the people who got on the bus? You sure that a group of white girls that age wouldnโt be as loud?
People from all groups online are usually the most extreme as theyโre the voices that people point to. A reasonable comment isnโt going to get as much attention as some insane rambling. Donโt let people posting more extreme positions online colour your real life interactions. Most people are ok and couldnโt care less about you one way or another they just want to keep their head down and spend time with people they care about and do what they can to get by. Most people donโt want to make your life worse.
The only logical position is to treat people as individuals and not as a group as Iโm sure you wouldnโt want to be judged by the worst of whatever social group you belong.
White, Black, Asian, middle eastern, we are all one people and should come together as one
...to hate the Jews
HinkieGivesMeCummies ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 19:00:37 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
That's gonna be a YIKES from me dawg
[deleted] ยท -33 points ยท Posted at 22:28:55 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
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HinkieGivesMeCummies ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:54:52 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's gonna be an even bigger YIKES from me dawg
AchieveDeficiency ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:35:44 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for confirming that there are more than 1 avowed racist in this thread.
Holoichi ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:28:08 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
yeah its a little concerning.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 03:04:05 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
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limeyptwo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:17 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
No. Just right-leaning subs tend to attract the worst of Reddit. But not everyone is like that.
phylosacc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:40 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
You haven't been in subs like r/LateStageCapitalism, huh?
phylosacc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:42 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
As evidenced by how they all got downvoted?
xDrSchnugglesx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:07:39 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It's a subtle shift, but if you dig through the comments of threads since this subs creation, there is a growing bigoted leaning.
AchieveDeficiency ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:22:37 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I should have warned you that you'll get a lot of pushback for even suggesting a partisan lean in this sub... even though, at the same time, they will justify some of the overt racism by claiming there is a lot of natural crossover between KiA and T_D... oh how the irony is lost on most people.
phylosacc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:24 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Again, as evidenced by how they get downvoted?
I've been in this sub for three years, did you really think that your pathetic talk of "subtle shifts" like the average conspiracy theorist was going to convince me you were the sole holder of all truth or something?
If so, keep trying. It's fucking hilarious.
xDrSchnugglesx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:10 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
You're painting me as something I never claimed to be. I think this sub is going the direction of /r/CringeAnarchy.
phylosacc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:42:56 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
... Of course you didn't claim to be anything, a conspiracy theorist does actually believe its bullshit.
And you're claiming that this sub is going in a direction it isn't going.
It's like you don't even realize how you shoot yourself in the foot... because you don't.
xDrSchnugglesx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:06 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre reaching. Saying Iโm a conspiracy theorist is giving me too much credit.
The sub is definitely going in that direction. Just look how many transphobic and FPH posts get posted. Itโs slow but happening.
phylosacc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:20:31 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, because you say so, it has be true.
You're correct for once: "conspiracy theorist" is overestimating your intelligence.
Examples? Oh, right, transtrenders and fat people who are assholes and entitled about it shouldn't be criticized... because you say so, I assume. Because this sub only mocks transtrenders and "fat acceptance" morons.
Pathetic and incorrect, the funniest kind of pathetic.
xDrSchnugglesx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:28:43 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you so rude. No one was rude. I wasn't rude. Why are you being rude.
https://trevor.shinyapps.io/subalgebra/
If you see here, and input "tumblrinaction," you'll notice the top subreddit that's similar is /r/CringeAnarchy, which is now a hate subreddit. You'll also notice /r/KotakuInAction. Further down the list, you'll notice /r/punchableface (deleted for being a bullying sub), /r/MensRights, and /r/FatPeopleHate.
This isn't coming from nowhere. I never said trans/fat people shouldn't be mocked if they deserve to be mocked. But there are comments that get upvoted in posts about fat people that are shittalking them just because they're fat.
You keep making strawmen that I'm not even saying. You're fighting something that isn't there. You're acting like a 15 year old.
phylosacc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:40 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa
Alright, smart guy, do tell me, what makes that guy in any way a veritable source? He isn't and that you even pretended otherwise is... I probably shouldn't say "idiotic" but I just can't think of another word.
But that goes without saying at this point.
Again, examples? And don't think I missed that you went from "posts" to "comments" because your case gets weaker with every comment and you can't even help yourself.
Delightful.
And you don't even get to that level... with all due respect to actual children who do know the value of backing up what they say.
xDrSchnugglesx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:44:20 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, take a chill pill.
The dude created an app, as clearly written, that just crossreferences different subs. The info you're looking for is right there.
Posts and comments are both present. Next time one pops up I'll make sure to send it your way.
Why are you so grouchy? You're so aggressive. Chill out. You're acting like I'm attacking you personally by saying that a sub that makes fun of people also has a high amount of racism and other -isms. It's not hard to believe.
Edit: After checking your post history, I can see you're one of the racists and transphobic people I'm talking about.
Taken from your post history:
"There's no "in between" male and female any more than there's "in between" man and woman." https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/94peka/hell_yeah_sanity/e3nj63n/?context=3
"[blah blah blah race is a social construct delusion blah blah blah]
Yes, yes and mastiffs and chihuahuas are also identical." https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/94peka/hell_yeah_sanity/e3on22e/?context=3
"Your pretense of there being more than two genders has no evidence." This is wrong. https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/94peka/hell_yeah_sanity/e3nhr7e/?context=3
"Yes, there is, you mentioned it, and dismissed it by saying it is "superficial" as if the skin being superficial makes it somehow not matter." https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/94peka/hell_yeah_sanity/e3ng75u/?context=3
"That's species; pretending otherwise is only in some PC circles, and it's as delusional as saying that a chihuahua is exactly the same thing as a malamute." https://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/8zza0y/im_not_white_im_irish/e2pb7s1/?context=3
The amount of posts you have passing pseudoscience that's been disproven for 100 years as fact is baffling. You're bringing up information proven false and that was used to push eugenics. You're also wrong about the genders, and that's provable.
You're also extremely bitter and seem to fight with everyone. I wouldn't be surprised if you were subbed to /r/braincels.
Edit 2: Also, holy shit, stop using greentext. This isn't 4chan. No one thinks you're cool.
phylosacc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:58:16 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Give me the source code, as far as I saw, the guy just read some old post in, IDK, buzzfeed or something that compared subs and decided that the article was right and so his "app" just returns whatever the article compared.
So you had no evidence for all the stupid bullshit you have said up until this point. Shocker.
You really don't get it, do you? You guys are great. No, pal, whatever you think is or isn't hard to believe doesn't even remotely matter.
Your perception is worthless, you're nobody and nobody has to agree with you. For that matter, whatever you think, negate it and you're more likely to be right.
xDrSchnugglesx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:04:09 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit you're such a bitter twat lmao
I'll keep you posted when I find examples. No, I don't have every example I've ever seen on hand. That's a nonsense expectation.
Edit: Love the last comment. Insatiable need to get the last word so he can feel right. You're a sad little buddy.
phylosacc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:11:21 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
"I believe this!"
"Why?"
"Because shut up! I don't have any examples"
A typical exchange between a resident of a mental ward and his/her therapist.
But I don't even have to go that far: the scientific method is a "nonsense expectation"... as said by moronic SJW lost in TiA #1834
De-lightful.
xDrSchnugglesx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:15:16 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Do you understand how proof works?
Claim is made, then evidence is collected to support claim. We are in step 2 of that process. I don't know why you're having a hard time with that. You think people do studies after evidence has already been collected? lol
Go outside. You seem really unhappy. Also, you can have the last word. I can tell you need it so you can feel good about yourself for 'telling off those EssJayDubbyahs.' Go on. Make it a good one. Show everyone how much you need attention and to feel superior.
Edit: As if on cue, lmao
phylosacc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:49 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
That's for hypotheses, genius.
You made a statement of fact about a noticeable trend that, according to you, has been going on for years; the only way that claim makes sense is if you actually have examples of this trend showing itself.
Hahahahahahaha never, never not a transparent attempt at precisely trying to get the last word.
You guys usually think that'll deter the other person from replying, and maybe it works in whatever echo chamber you crawled out of. But I'm having way too much fun.
"Everyone"? Nobody's reading this thread pal, it became a link in the main one like 6 comments ago, seriously, how self-important are you? A lot, obviously, all SJWs are.
"Feel superior"? Compared to what? You? You really think yourself a bar?
stevema1991 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:15 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
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Arizth ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:23:28 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I'm conflicted.
On the one hand, this is the sort of racist shit that we really shouldn't be accepting of.
On the other hand, this matches up with my anecdotal experience of mass transit in black dominated neighborhoods, and I'm not certain how I feel about that.
Krynique ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:57:19 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
You can agree with his point, but not how he makes it.
Tempestblue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:53:16 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
If you get 6 good friends of any ethnicity together odds are it will be a ruckus.
Just because I roll my eyes when I see a loud group of stereotypical white teenage girls coming, doesn't mean it is reflective on anyone but that specific group.
AnnoyingScootMain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:14 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I would shut up before you dig your grave even deeper .
MonkeyWithMachete ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:25:48 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I can't wait to see your greenext rant on /pol/.
nBoots ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:14:25 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Is this what professional Russian race-baiting looks like?
no1skaman ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:55:13 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a cunt.
DrunkWino ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:25:02 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to TiA, Stormfront?
Ragnrok ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:01:46 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Welp, this is gonna get screencapped and used as "proof" that we're all a bunch of racists.
DrunkWino ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:05:45 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Like those kinds of people care about proof.
Su-zan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:42:44 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Of course they do. When it supports their beliefs reality has a liberal bent. When it conflicts with their world views facts are racist and truth is a social construct.
Onithyr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:32:29 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It won't matter that we all disagree and downvote it to hell, it's here therefore it "represents" us.
regalAugur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:30 on August 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
someone gonna screencap it and edit the massively negative scores or what
Ragnrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:50 on August 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
"The scores changed after we linked it and a bunch of people went there and down voted it. When I first saw it it was still up voted"
That's what they usually insist, at least
regalAugur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:08 on August 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
i almost just find it funny when they call me, a tiny japanese lesbian, a straight white male supremacist anyway
Canadiancookie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:52:25 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
/r/stormfrontorsjwortia
DoctorDark3 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:48:14 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with them is a victimhood mentality beaten into them by the left. That being said it's not even close to all of them. We are speaking about a loud minority. The crime statistic can be explained through looking at the financial and cultural status of the perpetrators. Poverty breeds crime sadly. You still shouldn't make generalizations about a group of people for the actions and words of the people we see here. You looked far to long in the abyss.
zartolos ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:12:16 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Poverty may breed crime, but it's rather disproportionate. Cultural factors definitely play a role, but it wouldn't matter if they were any race, just that as a race, they happened to create that culture.
UrethraFrankIin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:15:21 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't help that a legal system with entrenched anti-black biases still exists in many places (looking at YOU Alabama), and existed explicitly until constitutional amendments arose in the 1960s.
My gf is in law school and brought up one case of the death penalty in the 1980s where a white guy falsely accused a black man of murder. The black man was at a home bbq with 12+ witnesses at the time, and was rebuilding the transmission of the "getaway car" in his driveway with his father. A white guy came to collect a credit payment on furniture and reported seeing him as well. The false accuser then said he wouldn't lie on the stand, but was then compelled by police to do so when he wanted a way off death row. This was in Alabama.
When the black man's lawyer motioned to move the case to a different county to secure a racially diverse jury, they moved to the only county with a largely white (9% black) population because they KNEW they'd secure a death sentence - and did so in 1 day. This happened in the mid 1980s! I can only imagine this shit still goes on all over the place, even if it isn't as obvious.
tweez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:59:10 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Did the guy get executed then? I get police being corrupt when theyโre making money or gaining personally from the corruption like in the documentary about the precinct in New York where the police were essentially enforcers for cocaine gangs, but how can someone live with themselves knowing theyโve made someone lie to get a person the death penalty?
tiredteachermaria ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:33 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I think this might be the case in question.
If this is him, he did escape death row. However, he also lost 30 years of his life.
superprez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:17 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
But there are more poor whites in the us than blacks but blacks commit more crime so it can't just be poverty (or slavery) It's about time people stopped excusing people for their shitty lifestyle choices. You would think the best way out of poverty would be to get a good education and thus a decent job, but for some reason being poor makes you drop out of school more than another type of poor people and poverty also seems to make an awful lot of single parent families. Now i'm not trying to claim that racism doesn't exist but to blame all your communities problems on poverty (and white people as it's obviously white people keeping them down) is not helping the problem whatsoever.
AchieveDeficiency ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:08:58 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Red580 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:54:11 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
This separates the racists and the normal people, because the explanation is simple, the ghetto, even parts of the ghetto with mostly white people have the same increase in crime.
Stattholder_Cramer ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:43:59 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Twats like you are why people think this sub is a hate subreddit.
backfire10z ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:31:46 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a way to contact mods? Someone help me out. Iโve seen this dumbass on 3+ posts talking smack about everything besides white people. He hates blacks, trans people, and whatnot and he harassed those who defend it
LordOfTurtles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:26:59 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Send them a message or report the post
KennyHam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:44:00 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I have a feeling this dude is just a troll trying to get the sub nuked
Tempestblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:32 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this would be my guess. Real rascists have their own Hangouts and don't step out if their echo chamber just to get smacked down by average shitlords.
I could almost believe it if it was a rascist triggering the more sensitive subs.
lajer-reddit ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:43:51 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
dude, stop.
SubtleMockery ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:51:57 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Get the fuck out of here. Mods?
Dark_Novak ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:25 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Not to gatekeep too hard, but how new are you? The mods have literally only banned one person. You fuck outta here.This is the wrong sub. I thought this was CA. My fault.
SubtleMockery ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:18:36 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
You want to gatekeep against someone telling a racist to fuck off?
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 06:21:58 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Truth
webbaboo ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 17:09:57 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Damn white people and their
shuffles cards
Memes
lazybeedrill ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 17:39:12 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Why we lettin yts get way wid this?
JakeDC ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:10:42 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin' wypipo.
Krynique ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:58:53 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
lmaooooo
fedorcallahan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:55:43 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The D-word counts as a swear word so stop typing it.
greenphilly420 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:38:40 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? Iโll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and Iโve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Iโm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youโre fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thatโs just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little โcleverโ comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldnโt, you didnโt, and now youโre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youโre fucking dead, kiddo.
peeisstoredinmeballs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:23:58 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
gorilla - nice, take your upvote
fedorcallahan ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:14 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
BANNED
Holoichi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:29:03 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
at this point im just convinced you are a super dedicated troll. and if so, I respect that.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:43 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I respect uplifting people.
greenphilly420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:22 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? Iโll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and Iโve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Iโm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. Youโre fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thatโs just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little โcleverโ comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldnโt, you didnโt, and now youโre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youโre fucking dead, kiddo.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:05 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
BANNED
Dreamcast3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:47:15 on August 6, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
D***
fedorcallahan ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:56 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs fine.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:51 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, youโre still here?
fedorcallahan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:30:46 on August 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:06 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I saw you a while ago ranting against curse words and proclaiming people banned. It was hilarious. I figured you would have given up by now.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:32 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I will never surrender to sin.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:34 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Youโve picked a bizarre hill to die on, amigo.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:50 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I didnโt pick it. I was cursed with this burden.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:15 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
oooOooOOoo spooky
Iโm curious. When you ban someone, do you genuinely believe they will somehow be forced to stop commenting? Or do you just hope they obey?
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:25 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I know they will obey.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:00 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Okay but they donโt. Iโve creeped your comment history. They curse, you say BANNED, they keep right on posting. It does nothing.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:33 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I have faith that it will.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:42 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Your faith is directly contrary to reality. Youโre just plain wrong.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:51 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Faith IS reality.
Checkmate.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:25 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
โMy faith says if I tell someone theyโre banned, they will stop responding.โ
Then the person continues responding.
How do you ignore the fact that you saying banned did not, in fact, have any effect?
Also, I know you say โcheckmateโ when youโve said something you THINK is so amazing youโve won the argument. You say checkmate waaaaaaaay too often, as demonstrated by the fact that the argument continues after many, many โcheckmates.โ
Yahtzee.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:33 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Ever notice how after I issue a ban the other person ALWAYS eventually stops commenting? Ask yourself if they will still be commenting 20 years from now in the year 2038. If you are truthful your answer will be: no, they wonโt still be commenting. Do you think thatโs coincidence? The answer is: no, itโs the work of the LORD and they are following his BAN command.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:28 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
People get bored eventually. And theyโll still use Reddit after your โban.โ When they no longer use Reddit, theyโll still use the Internet. Who knows if Reddit will still be relevant in 2038. They probably wonโt be commenting on Reddit, specifically, because I doubt Reddit will still be around. I am VERY confident that theyโll be using the internet, or whatever worldwide information sharing system has taken its place. I do not for an instant believe your attempted ban will deter anyone from anything.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:12 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Well wherever people go, if they are using swear words I will follow them and ban them. They can run but they canโt hide!
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:13 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
And I can ban you. Doesnโt mean itโll do anything. Even though you say that only you can ban people, my โbanโ would be exactly as effective as yours.
Besides, I like swears. A watered down, censored internet would be sad.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:43 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
True happiness is a life without sin, and a truly happy internet is an internet without swears.
And you could never ban me because I never swear.
Checkmate.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:39 on August 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree with you. I grew up in a very sanitized, swear free environment. We didnโt even say fart, butt, or shut up, much less acronyms like WTF or words that were derived from swears, like dang or gosh (derived from damn and God.)
It was MISERABLE. I swear now, and I am much happier, my mental health is better, and itโs easier to express myself because I donโt have to think about censoring myself in every conversation.
Also, youโre right. I canโt ban you. You also canโt ban me. You say you can ban me, but that doesnโt make it the case. You may even believe you can ban me, but itโs still not true.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:22 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Sin is never happiness. You might trick yourself into thinking it is temporarily, but your swears will always catch up to you in the end.
And how do you explain the fact that I have successfully banned dozens and dozens of reddit users?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:09 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Again, not REMOTELY what I have experienced. I might rather die than go back to the church. I was so miserable I nearly committed suicide a few times over. I feel extremely lucky to have gotten out.
As for your โbans,โ you havenโt successfully banned anyone. People you โbannedโ within the last week are still commenting on Reddit and still swearing. Just because they arenโt interacting directly with you doesnโt mean you accomplished anything.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:19 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Let me ask you this, and please answer honestly: when you were at your lowest point were you routinely saying swear words out loud?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:24 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Full honesty. You have my word.
At my lowest point, I swore occasionally, but I limited myself to โminorโ swears. I realized I enjoyed speaking that way, and realizing that living a life contrary to the things I had been told was rough. It made me feel like my whole life had been terrible for no reason. So I stopped limiting my language at all, renounced my religion, and became happier. When Iโm around my parents and have to pretend to still follow their values (which seem similar to yours) itโs exhausting.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:55 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Limit yourself to exactly 0 swears, not even minor ones. I personally guarantee you will achieve ultimate happiness.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:25 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve done that. Up until Iโd say my second semester of college, I used zero swears. It was awful. It was NOT ultimate happiness. And yes, I was briefly a little less happy when I started to be less rigid, but that was not because of my so called sins, it was because I was realizing that I had lived a dull, constructed life that made me unhappy for no reason other than someone told me to. Iโd liken it to pulling out a splinterโ pulling out the splinter might hurt, but after itโs gone you feel so much better. Religion based restrictions on how I could live my life were a splinter.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:29 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Ok think about it like this: if you walked out of your house and got hit by a truck and died, and you found yourself in front of St. Peter at the pearly gates, would you walk up to him and scream the F-word at him and spit in his face, or would you calmly and politely ask him if you were being admitted into heaven? If you answer honestly you will have to admit that you would never swear at St. Peter because you know it would effect your own happiness level negatively.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:39 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Firstly, I donโt believe in St. Peter. However, Iโll address this.
You have to consider context. I wouldnโt scream anything at anybody. If I were meeting a stranger or an authority figure, of course I would be polite and appropriate. Cursing would be inappropriate there. I could scream โbeef jerkyโ and it would also be unprofessional.
In the right context, swear words can add to a conversation. You donโt believe there is any appropriate context to swears, I know. I disagree.
As for โwholesome talk only,โ I think intent is much more important. If I met a friend I hadnโt seen in a long time and they said โbuddy, I missed you so fucking much!โ that would make me happy. Not only did they say they missed me, they did it emphatically and in a way that indicated they were comfortable being emotional with me. If they said โI wish you werenโt here because youโre annoying and I hate your face,โ that would make me sad, because though it didnโt have swears, it was a mean and hurtful thing to say.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:09 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Ok think about it like this: would you waterboard a vegan with pigs blood until they choke on it and are forced to injest it? If you answer honestly the answer is no because you respect their beliefs. Then donโt waterboard Decent Christians with swears that their brains are forced to process and injest. Respect all beliefs. Simple as that.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:42 on August 9, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I do respect beliefs. Thatโs why I havenโt cursed at you. However, water boarding someone is actively trying to hurt them, while cursing around someone who doesnโt like it is not malicious. Itโs just not changing something from the standard. If I hated the color blue, thatโs my problem. The world has no obligation to stop using blue.
To use your analogy: cursing around someone who doesnโt like it is like eating meat in the presence of a vegan. The vegan might not like it, and may even find the sight and the odor offensive. However, the person eating isnโt doing it to harm the vegan. Thatโs just what they eat.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:27 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I see your point but itโs not quite right. Once a swear word enters your ear, where does it go? Your brain. And what does your brain do? Process that swear, and you literally have no choice in the matter. Using swear words is the moral equivalent to hog tying a vegan and water boarding them with pigs blood until they swallow some of the blood and their body processes it.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:50 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. Firstly, I disagree because I believe intent matters a great deal. Secondly, a vegan smelling meat, technically, has to inhale meat particles and have them bind to odor receptors in the nose. It would still be unreasonable to ban eating meat in public because a vegan might have to process some. If the vegan is so against it, then the onus is on the vegan to avoid situations in which meat might be eaten. Similarly, if curse words are so offensive to you that you believe anyone using them in your presence (Not at you) is hateful, then the internet might not be the place for you.
You canโt ask others to alter their behavior for you, if their behavior isnโt about you. Hunting down and force feeding a vegan is very different than inadvertently exposing them to meat through your normal day-to-day activities.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:21 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I see your thought process, but you still havenโt quite grasped the concept. Think about it like this: not everyone is a vegan, but some people are. Does that mean we are free to drive around in a van and kidnap random people off the street and handcuff them and waterboard them with pigs blood until their stomach fills with pigs blood on the off chance that they are not vegans? No we canโt do that because itโs not kind to do to ANYONE, just like itโs not kind to swear at anyone.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:09 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
And I think there are lots of people who donโt mind swearing at all. There are people who I would totally swear at. And there are people who would swear at me. I know you think this โwaterboarding with pigโs bloodโ thing is a great analogy, but it really, really isnโt, because it greatly exaggerates the intensity and it completely ignores context and intent.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:12 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Think about it like this: if you were a lifelong vegan would you care about โcontext and intentโ if you were strapped on to a table and a group of masked men waterboarded you with the warm blood of a pig they just slaughtered in front of you until your stomach literally burst open and you died from sepsis? If you answer truthfully you will be forced to admit that you wouldnโt care about the context they were waterboarding you under, and you should adopt a swear-free lifestyle.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:21 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Again, what youโre describing is NOWHERE NEAR being exposed to swear words, and if you truly believe it is, youโre actually delusional. I donโt say that as an insult. If you believe swearing around you is the same as a horrific murder, there is actually something wrong with your brain and therapy might be healthy.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:33 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
You still arenโt grasping the concept. Obviously they arenโt literally the same act, but the principal is the same. Morally they are equivalent.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:58 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Morally, they are not. And if you think they are, then you have a problem.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:58 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Are you even listening to me? I dont have a problem, Iโm saying we SHOULDNT waterboard vegans with animal blood even if our baser instincts tell us we should. Just like swearing.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:07 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm listening. Of course we shouldnโt waterboard vegans with blood. What kind of person would even think of that? Thatโs not a thing people do.
Swearing IS NOT morally equivalent to whatever twisted scenario youโve drummed up as an analogy. If you have a problem with me swearing, thatโs not my problem. If you think itโs so morally repugnant you need to compare it to murder, youโre wrong.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:39 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Think about it like this: picture a smug vegan, constantly judging and looking down on others for eating meat. Most people would jump at the chance to handcuff them and drip just a little bit of pigs blood into their mouth in order to knock them off of their high horse a little bit.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:11 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
What?? No! People would NOT jump at that opportunity. Oh my god, do you really believe that about humanity? Are YOU like that? Thatโs horrible!
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:19 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Checkmate.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:49 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Not a checkmate. Barely even relevant. And you may be a psychopath if thatโs what you believe the human mind is like.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:24 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The reason I said checkmate was because of the fact that you were judging me for wanting to waterboard vegans with pigs blood in order to get revenge, and Jesus said not to judge others lest you be judged, and that was such a good point that I won the argument.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:21 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I definitely judge anyone who wishes harm on another. Definitely.
And I think judging someone for wishing harm on another is miles different than judging someone for using vulgar language.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:22 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Think about it like this: if you forcibly waterboarded a vegan with pigs blood wouldnโt they be less likely to use swear words afterwards? And wouldnโt this increase their chances of getting into heaven? And if thatโs the case wouldnโt they see the error of their ways and thank you eventually?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:27 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
....no, there are no benefits to waterboarding a vegan with pigs blood. It has nothing to do with their swearing, unless youโre torturing them for the sake of behavior modification, and it has no bearing on their potential afterlife.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:58 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Agree to disagree, but the Bible is pretty clear that the only way to salvation is through His blood.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:06 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
And I do not believe the Bible is true. So thatโs probably gonna be irreconcilable.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:48 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
But the Bible believes that you are true :) ๐
PeppersPizzaria ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:40 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The Bible is an inanimate object.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:09 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Right but it still represents the LORD. Can we at least agree on the fact that swearing is a sin, and that sinners should be forced to change their ways by the use of physical force and coercion, and part ways as friends?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:25 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
We cannot agree on that. I do not believe swearing is a sin, and I do not believe it needs to be changed, and I CERTAINLY do not agree that physical force is an acceptable option.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:42 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Ok letโs try to find some common ground here. In a perfect world, how would you force people to stop swearing on the internet?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:31 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldnโt. I wouldnโt stop people from swearing on the internet.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:13 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I know you wouldnโt in real life, but this is a thought exercise in order for us to find common ground.
What strategy would you implement in order to compel people to use wholesome uplifting language at all times and in all places?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:59 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Firstly, Iโd like to be clear that I donโt think I should compel anyone to speak in any way, and if thereโs a situation where language I donโt like is commonly used, I would remove myself. Itโs not my job or my right to tell others how to speak.
If I were compelled to try and stop them, my strategy would be education.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:51 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Education! Thatโs what Iโm trying to do on reddit every day. I knew we would find common ground. I message people every time they swear on reddit and educate them about the dangers of using cuss words.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:44 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Your education comes off as condescending and borderline deranged, as well as inaccurate. Itโs as if I tried to โeducateโ people that eating lemons would send them to hell. Itโs not true. And providing proof that is meaningful only to me, such as my Holy Book of Donโt Eat Lemons, it wouldnโt change anything. It would make me look loony.
Edit: I typed โaccurateโ when I meant โinaccurateโ
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:20 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Mhm. I hadnโt considered that I come across that way to people. I just figured it was sinners desperately holding on to sin and denying the truth at all costs.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:41 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The vast majority of people genuinely do not believe what you believe. Your attempts to force them to live the way you think they should just leaves a bad taste in their mouth.
Iโm Buddhist. I donโt go around screaming it or trying to force others to live by Buddhist tenets, or point out when their actions have bad karma. I just take care of people who need it in visible, tangible ways. I feed them. I give them clothes. And if they ask, Iโll teach them what I believe or tell them where they can go to learn it. I donโt focus on changing people. I focus on helping them. People are capable of finding their way.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:33 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds noble, but technically itโs the LORD screaming at people on the internet. He is just doing it through me.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:01 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that you believe that. I donโt believe that itโs true. I believe youโre wrong.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:40 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Ok letโs revisit the water boarding analogy for a minute. Think about the amount of personal satisfaction you would achieve if you tied a vegans hands and ankles together and poured warm pigs blood into their mouth until they inadvertently swallowed some of it. A lot of personal satisfaction right? Now picture saving your fellow brothers and sisters from a sin even greater than smugness: swearing. Thatโs the amount of satisfaction I feel every single day my friend.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:32 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
WHO WOULD GET SATISFACTION FROM THAT?
Seriously. Normal people donโt get that satisfaction from sadism. Especially not sadism as twisted as what youโre describing. Seriously. Thatโs just sick.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:40 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Calling the LORD a sadist is disrespectful to my beliefs and you know it.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:14 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, your god wants to waterboard people with pigโa blood? Or are you just saying your god enjoys causing pain? Because those are the people I called sadists. I didnโt put your god into those categories, but you responded as if I did.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:30 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm just saying God will do all that is necessary to force us to stop sinning and that doesnโt make him a sadist thank you very much!
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:25 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
In your worldview, does he enjoy doing it? Because thatโs the definition of sadism.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:01 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
As far as I know the Bible doesnโt go into specifics on whether he enjoys stopping sin by force so I canโt be certain, but something tells me he gets a little twinkle in his eye ;)
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:23 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
That disgusts me.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:34 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
If the LORDs twinkling eye brings shame to you then you need to re-evaluate your lifestyle.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:11 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who enjoys suffering is disgusting to me. If there were a god like that, I would choose not to worship him.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:18 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
But he would choose to worship you :) ๐
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:55 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
No he wouldnโt, because Iโm not worthy of worship and a god wouldnโt worship a human.
A suggestion: before you try to be clever with your reversals, actually think about what you wrote. You just wrote that your god would worship me. That sounds like blasphemy.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:40 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Oh right. Sorry I didnโt mean it that way. I said it because sometimes when people say โI donโt believe in godโ I respond with โbut he believes in youโ and 99% of the time that checkmates them and I win the argument.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:47 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Loose definition of checkmate, but sure. If you think god believes in me, thatโs fine, but you canโt make me change my life based on your beliefs.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:59 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yes I can. I plan on getting several laws passed that would make swearing on the internet punishable by heavy fines and harsh jail sentences. Letโs see who is swearing then pal!
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:10 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs not going to happen. I know itโs your goal, but itโs just not going to happen, both because itโs unreasonable and because laws enacted solely for religious reasons are frowned upon. Separation of church and state and all that.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:46 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs why the church and the state are currently joining forces to form the ultimate power.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:32 on August 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
No they arenโt. And a theocracy would be a horrible place to live.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:41 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Think about it like this: whatโs better, 1 person getting into heaven or 300 million people being forced to go to heaven?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:59 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I think free will is the idea. Plus, you canโt force people to believe things. How would you like it if Buddhists joined forces with the government and you had to become a vegetarian and listen to sutras and meditate to achieve enlightenment?
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:09 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Do Buddhists condone swear words?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:06 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs no rule against it.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:42 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Doesnโt sound very Christian then.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:38 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
...itโs not Christian? Thatโs the point? Buddhists arenโt Christian.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:57 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Right but most major religions in the world are based on the origins of Christianity (treating others with kindness etc) seems like Chinese people today have forgotten their roots.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:36 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs not at all true. Christianity, like Judaism and Islam, is an Abrahamic religion. Christianity itself has only been around about two thousand years. Lots of religions are older.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:59 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm saying they are based on pre-Christ Christianity. The Bible starts at the creation of the world. Donโt try to pretend that any religion pre-dates the creation of the world.
Checkmate.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:42 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The world did not begin six thousand years ago. I used to believe it did, and I doubt you can give me any argument that I have not considered, studied, and ultimately rejected. If you say that the universe is only a few millennia old, you are factually incorrect.
Also, pre-Christ Christianity has a name. Itโs called Judaism.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:49 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
If the earth is one million years old then how do you explain the dinosaurs?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:50 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The dinosaurs lived over sixty million years ago. We can tell based on how deeply buried their fossils are and through carbon dating. The dinosaurs support an old earth, not a young earth.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:58 on August 11, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs one theory, but science also proves that God placed dinosaur bones in ancient burial grounds to test our faith. Looks like you failed the test :(
Checkmate.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:51 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Can you cite your sources? Peer reviewed and reputable, please. Because I can find scores of research backing up the age of the dinosaurs. Or are you suggesting your god was purposefully deceptive in his alleged creation of the earth?
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:07 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
My peer reviewed source: the dang King James Bible. Itโs reviewed by my peers daily.
And he just tests our faith by tricks of love.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:16 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I do not accept that source. It is not a scientific source. Were your theory about the young earth scientifically valid, it would have multiple sources of evidence.
Also, I would not accept any sort of relationship with someone who set out to trick me. That person would be deceptive, and I do not like deceptive people. If your god tricks us, I reject him.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:44 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
You arenโt really grasping this concept. Think about it this way: what if I told you I was going to give you $1.00, but instead I tricked you and handed you 1 million dollars cash in a duffle bag. Would you reject that trick? Didnโt think so.
Checkmate.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:46 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
And you donโt seem to understand my concept. I would accept the money, sure, but I would also think you were trying to be funny and just were very bad at it. Whatโs godโs motivation for lying? Also, isnโt lying a sin? Sounds like youโre accusing your god of lying.
I think this is more like staging a crime and then laughing at the police for spending resources investigating it.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:53 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
You havenโt been able to connect the dots so far. Let me spell it out for you in simple terms: vegan. Waterboarding. Pigs blood. How is that a trick, and donโt you think if the LORD did something this extreme he must have a good reason for doing so?
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:04 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre connecting dots that donโt connect. I think thereโs something wrong with you. Iโm sorry to be blunt, but the things you are saying do not make sense.
If god enjoys causing pain, heโs a sadist.
If god tries to deceive us, heโs a liar.
In addition, you have some weird views:
You believe all people would like to hurt other people.
You think swearing is on par with a torturous murder.
You think a theocracy would be good, but wonโt even consider what it would be like to live in a theocracy that didnโt line up exactly with your very specific views.
All of that demonstrates a shocking lack of empathy.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:43 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Having empathy for swearers is the first step on the slippery slope that ends with you saying swear words yourself.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:16 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
And thatโs the kind of statement that leads me to believe thereโs something wrong with your brain.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:22 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
That is a rude and dismissive statement, and demonstrates a clear lack of empathy.
Checkmate.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:28 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I do empathize. Mental illness is difficult, especially if you donโt recognize it.
And I have made my judgements based on the evidence you have presented. I donโt say it to be rude, I say it to point out how you appear.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:32 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
So a demand for uplifting language = mental illness? Thatโs a sad commentary. The world truly has descended into swear.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:12 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
No. Your fixation on what YOU deem to be immoral indicates some abnormal psychology. Your dividing line is arbitraryโ โdamnโ is a sin, but โdangโ is fine, for example. The King James Bible is the translation that you cling to, even though itโs not the most accurate translation, the most readable, or the most relevant.
You make connections that donโt exist. Thatโs something that points to delusion.
Again, you donโt seem to have true empathy beyond your idea that youโre โsavingโ people, even though you arenโt.
Iโm not calling you a bad person. But something in your mind isnโt wired right.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:02 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
While I appreciate this discussion very much, I do not appreciate you typing dirty swear words at me at all. I will not hesitate to bring the full power of my bans down on your head the next time you type the D-word at me.
And the president always swears on a King James Bible when becoming president, so the King James Bible is quite literally his source of power, and the source of power for the entire United States Of America. And guess what: You wont find a single swear word in the whole dang book!
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:22 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm not swearing at you. The word is relevant. For that matter, โdamn,โ โdamned,โ and โdamnnationโ are all in the King James Bible. Would you like the references?
Roosevelt didnโt swear on a Bible. Adams and Pierce swore in on law books. Johnson swore in on a Catholic missal. You are factually incorrect.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:53 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but George Washington swore on the Bible and that was what gave America it's initial power. Not every single president has to do it, but once in a while they have to because the power levels would go down with time. This is written into the constitution and is mere tradition.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:11 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Please show me where in the Constitution it says the nation gets its power from the President swearing on the Bible. Article and line, please.
And again, I would like you to acknowledge that the Bible has variations of the word โdamn.โ It also says โass.โ
It does not, however, contain the word โkangaroo.โ Therefore, if the Bible not using a word makes it a swear, then the word โkangarooโ is a swear.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:02 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The Bible technically says those words, but the Bible was written by the finger of God and he does a lot of things we can't do like smiting people. So when he uses the D-word he is doing it in his infinite wisdom, and humans do not have infinite wisdom, therefore we can NEVER use the D-word.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:27 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
So you allow your god to sin? You hold him to a lower standard than you hold random Internet strangers?
Also, you see โdamnโ most often in the various Pauline letters, which were written by Paul. I donโt think Paul was god, was he?
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:56 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The King James version of the Bible was written by the finger of God, not Paul himself. This has been proven time and again by the best archaeologists in the world and at this point is no longer up for debate to reasonable people who accept reality.
And God can't sin. I see how you would be confused because his finger wrote what appears to be dirty harmful swears to the untrained eye. Please keep in mind that it is the LORD writing them, and he works in mysterious ways.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:47 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The King James Version of the Bible was a translation commissioned by King James to distance the newly formed Church of England from the Puritan churchโs doctrine. The translators were given instructions to make sure that their translation upheld political views of the time.
I do not believe the Bible was written by a god. Parts of it were written by Bronze Age tribes in the Middle East, and other parts were written in the latter years of the Roman Empire by a then-minority religion trying to distinguish themselves from the polytheistic doctrines of the time. Please show me the papers from these โbest archaeologists,โ as well as the archaeologistsโ credentials.
While youโre at it, you still havenโt shown me where in the Constitution it says that America gets its power from the President swearing on a specific bible translation. The entire text of the Constitution is accessible online, so it should t be hard for you to find.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:41 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Constitutional proof: "Whereas Four hundred and eighty-one years ago the rediscovery of this Family of Islands, Rocks and Cays heralded the rebirth of the New World; And Whereas the People of this Family of Islands recognizing that the preservation of their Freedom will be guaranteed by a national commitment to Self-discipline, Industry, Loyalty, Unity and an abiding respect for Christian values and the Rule of Law; Now Know Ye Therefore: We the Inheritors of and Successors to this Family of Islands, recognizing the Supremacy of God and believing in the Fundamental Rights and Freedoms of the Individual, Do Hereby Proclaim in Solemn Praise the Establishment of a Free and Democratic Sovereign Nation founded on Spiritual Values and in which no Man, Woman or Child shall ever be Slave or Bondsman to anyone or their Labour exploited or their Lives frustrated by deprivation, and do Hereby Provide by these Articles for the indivisible Unity and Creation under God of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas."
Biblical Proof: and in acknowledgment of our obligations to God, our obligations to the homeland and the citizens, and our commitment to fundamental principles and our responsibility to Mankind, ... we have amended the existing Constitution"
Checkmate
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:17 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Dude. Thatโs the Constitution of the Bahamas, not the US.
Edit: and the second part is from Bahrain, a Muslim nation. Theyโre referring to Allah.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:59 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but it applies to all nations under God.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:30 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Constitutions only apply to their own nation. And the second quote is from Bahrain, a Muslim nation. So that would be Allah.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:34 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but the Christian God is the Lord of all the other Gods.
PeppersPizzaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:11 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
The only evidence you have for your god is the Bible. And the only evidence you have for the Bible is your god. Circular logic.
fedorcallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:01 on August 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)