Yikes. Not even historical figures are safe.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ wtf01152015 ยท 197 points ยท Posted at 23:58:16 on January 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)


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Lithuim ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 00:42:25 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So when people say I'm literally Hitler, they may not be exaggerating?

Hmmmm....

Spamakin ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 12:35:51 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cis = Heil-kin confirmed

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:24:57 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Lithuim ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:26:03 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I also identify as Poland, so it gets a little testy sometimes.

Gathenhielm ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 05:22:32 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting that none of them identify as Frdwr, the Welsh farmer who lived a completely unremarkable life and died of consumption in 1288 AD. No, it's always some highly notable person that they've just happened to have heard of beforehand.

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:40:22 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well if they're actually mentally ill, then yeah. Usually these types of things involve taking on the identity of someone important or famous as a form of a delusion of grandeur, but not always.

There are people who genuinely suffer from DID and other related disorders who believe that they're completely fictitious but anachronistic personas like a random runaway slave or a farmer or soldier from the Middle Ages. It's just less fantastical, so you don't hear about it as much, and people faking the disorder don't copy it.

TheAlbinoWatermelon ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:10:15 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd like to buy a vowel.

Castabar ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:15:34 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best not go shopping for them in glorious Cymru.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:55 on January 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the 'w' is a vowel.

wllmrdmnd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:31:44 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Come on guys, where are all the Chinese peasants? Where are the German toilet cleaners?

[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:13:01 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Genghis Khan was murderpunkgender. Tamerlane was hemidemisemiSKULLMINARETgenderkin-fluid. Nader Shah's headmates, naturally, included both Genghis Khan and Tamerlane.

I personally identify as Babur during the Mughal siege of Chanderi in 1528.

Binuclear ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:08:45 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is nothing about that sentence that I understood.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:43:23 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SJW-ifying noble conquerors of the steppe.

Castabar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:40 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

High five for the Babur reference! He was a pretty cool guy who didn't afraid of anything.

Plus he's a steppe warlord who wrote pretty poems and that makes me smile.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:26 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

He also didn't think highly of brown people, especially if they were unbelievers. But that just makes him a product of his time and culture. I refuse to vilify the Timurids just as I refuse to vilify the Spanish Hapsburgs

He was pretty swell for an Islamicate steppe imperialist [again, nothing wrong with this given the milieu--human beings conquer, dominate, settle, appropriate, and parasitize regardless of race {if only SJWs would accept this}] with Genghisid and Timurid origins...

Babur's cousin Mirza Muhammad Haidar Dughlat, who notoriously invaded "Tibet," is interesting, too.

Castabar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:37 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haven't heard of Mirza Muhammad. Gonna have to look him up :P And yeah, we're in total agreement on the wrongness of vilifying the past. People are people. Regardless of time or region. We can condemn things, but only in the context of no one being exempt. Every society has the potential for great good and terrible evil.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
os_kaiserwilhelm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:37:13 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I identify as Tokhtamysh.

GoldenAssasain8 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:06:50 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I identify as William the Kinquerer

[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:07:28 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder how his currently living descendants feel about the fact that their beloved colonial antecedent has resumed living.

midnight_riddle ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:20:49 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like how none of these fucking morons will bother to actually prove this by submitting information that only the real person would know. It would be such a ground-breaking discovery, to learn that some form of reincarnation exists (or at least have your soul become trapped in the mind of a 15 year old girl). But nope, you'll never see them volunteer to prove their outrageous claims.

GodEmperorNixon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 12:13:31 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guaran-fucking-tee you that if we manage to prove that your soul may end up trapped in a 15 year old girl, we'd have a cure for cancer in about 20 minutes and functional immortality within a year.

cassie_hill ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:48:56 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate that god damned spoons bullshit.

PirateMud ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:18:23 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, it's a concise way of addressing disability-related "if I do this today then I'm gonna be too knackered to do this" problems. But when combined with tumblr-variety special-snowflake-itis it's very awful indeed.

I really enjoy Lin Manuel Miranda's work, but god, the Hamilton fans on tumblr are complete arseholes.

kinder_teach ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:48:12 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spoons can be a good analogy, but you can't use Spoons as a synonym for energy. The point of the origin was that the poster had spoons on hand, but to use it in this context is just morbidly frustrating

I'm running out of forks to give

robocondor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:11 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I don't understand. I assumed "spoons" was some reference to spoon-feeding a conclusion to someone.

What analogy is happening here?

kinder_teach ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:09:31 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory/

tl:dr - people have limited energy, and spoons are energy. 'Normies' take for granted not having to consider the energy required for simple tasks (shopping, dealing with neighbours, talking to family, etc). People with disabilities often find that every day work drains them of energy and they don't have what it takes to function.

Eg; So you know you'll need 10 'spoons' for work, and you'll need 2 spoons to deal with public transport, and that leaves 5 spoons for when you get back. But that sexist comment on the train took a spoon so you only have 4 left to enjoy after work. You want to gym but that takes 6 spoons usually, so fuck it lets bitch on tublr.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:04 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I don't believe this whatsoever.

Navi_King ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:21:14 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad suffers from fibromyalgia and there are days when he does lack enough "spoons" to do all the things he wants. I hope tumblr doesn't turn my dad's condition into a joke too...

urcool91 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:01:36 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meh, most of them seem alright. I've seen less of the usual fandom stupidity, and stuff like this tends to stay isolated instead of getting attention like in some fandoms. Maybe I'm just oblivious.

Doomnahct ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well at least you can take solace in that fact that:

There is no spoon.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:51:41 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it cultural appropriation if I identify as Scipio Africanus?

Jackmono ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:21:49 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. But I identify as Hannibal Barca so you and I are gonna tangle.

CocknoseMcGintyAgain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:39 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then Tumblrinas are going to ship you. While M Porcius Cato the Elder watches disapprovingly, eating porridge.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:18 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Check your Carthaginian privilege

TheBlonkh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:52:16 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White people have no culture!

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:20:36 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

shakespeare pls

TheBlonkh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:38:42 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He also clearly stole his entire work from a POC woman, who was suppressed by this Cishet man.

gotboredwithrest ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:51:13 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Woo hoo! My flair is vaguely relevant!

KishinD ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:53:08 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it too soon to be literally Bowie?

SLOTH_POTATO_PIRATE ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:54:16 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If someone told me they were David Bowie other than David Robert Jones himself I don't know if I could control myself

DoctorMcTits ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:41:39 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

PLEASE REBLOG THIS

NOT BECAUSE I AM DESPERATE FOR EVERY BIT OF ATTENTION I CAN POSSIBLY RECEIVE

OR BECAUSE I LITERALLY THINK THIS IS THE DEEPEST THING ANYONE EVER WROTE AND WANT THE WORLD TO SEE HOW BRILLIANT I AM

BUT BECAUSE I AM CONSTANTLY BEING ASKED TO EXPLAIN THIS STUPID HORSESHIT A BUNCH OF NERDS MADE UP OBVIOUSLY

wowgoldfarmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:50:12 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can I be a fictive of a living person? I think we could build some pretty deep recursion here.

Half_Gal_Al ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:59:47 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone get on tumblr pretending to be cosbykin

KishinD ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:50:20 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relevant (youtube)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:14 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always knew this was relevant!!1!!?!

SLOTH_POTATO_PIRATE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:27 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am a fictive of you. I didn't decide it, it was always meant to be. This is not a choice, people. I don't want to spoon this out all of the time if you have any questions ask me/OP

rainydaywomen1235 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:16 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm confused, are these people claiming to identify as actual people from history? Like, I'm not rainydaywomen1235, I'm actually John F Kennedy?

santagoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:45 on January 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, one of your headmates would be John F Kennedy, yeah.

Volfgang91 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:52:50 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You ever get the impression they're all just giggling behind their hands and whispering "holy crap, can you believe people actually think we believe this stuff??

anotherdumbcaucasian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:09:02 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Jackmono ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:10 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ChaserofChub ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:22:11 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If that's the case, I'm totally Slash from Guns n Roses.

BVTheEpic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:34:49 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They couldn't just say "reincarnation"? Unless I'm missing something.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:04 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is that what this is? Because I didn't understand a damn word of that mess.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:26 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But they have like 5 different people reincarnate into them. That's not how Samsara works.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:49:04 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So it's make believe.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:56 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically.

eplrus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:33:59 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't you know? Ever since the Hamilton play came out it's been SJW Central. I personally know people who ship historical figures and have gender/sexuality headcanons for them.

At least some of them try to defend it with "I'm shipping the play characters and not the real people" but they still use historical documents and shit to defend themselves.

I'm a history major so it pisses me off much more than it should. Tumblr is disgusting. Why can't I make myself delete my blog.

ElBiscuit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:24 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ship?

eplrus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:31 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pair them together romantically.

There are people who think Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr being together romantically makes a great not-at-all-a-joke fanfiction.

ElBiscuit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:35 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay. That's what I was afraid it meant.

pokemon_fetish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:17 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It all makes so much sense now!

DerTrickIstZuAtmen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:08:08 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I give it a few years and you won't recognize the "I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter" paste as satire anymore.

Epsilia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:36 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A few years? People are already crossing the line these days. The line between satire and reality are thin.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:01 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is literally a form of psychosis. If they sincerely believed this to be true (and acted on it in a way that demonstrated credible threat to their own or the well-being of others), their family (or anyone who knows them) could have them committed to a mental health treatment facility against their will and held there indefinitely pending result of treatment.

All they have to do is make one threat like "I'm non-violent but x personality is going to kill you when he comes out," and blogs like this are literally sufficient cause for indefinite confinement.

REndymion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:37 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spoons? I'm pretty sure cracker barrel sells spoons if ze/she/he needs more.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:49 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, if it isn't the Hamilton nuts on Tumblr. They continually claim that Hamilton and Laurens had a sexual relationship, for which there is absolutely no evidence. Doesn't surprise me to see them getting into otherkin bullshit too.

They also sent me a torrent of verbal abuse for being interested in Thomas Jefferson. >_>

perpetual_nom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:52 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh. I mean to be fair their is evidence that exists that suggests that Hamilton may have been romantically interested in Lauren's but the majority of their letters have been censored by Hamilton's grandson and son in order to preserve his legacy. Many historians agree that there was something between them. Even if most likely unrequited. You should read up on it. It's fairly interesting.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:53 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, it's definitely possible, I agree. I don't think it's as clear as tumblrites will say though.

DeepInTheSherwood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:39:17 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These people are delusional. And when a schizophrenic starts calling you delusional it's BAD, okay? It's very very BAD. At least I can take my meds and (mostly) know when my thoughts aren't fucking logical.

jocchi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:13:11 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everybody on Tumblr is obsessed with this musical called Hamilton (yes, they made a musical about the story of Alexander Hamilton), so now this person and apparently others believe that they are historical figures because of this musical. Hamilton attracts the most chromosomal fans because there's a lot of black people in it, so if there are black people, that means it's great and deserves attention because Tumblr. (Also, that "spoons" bullshit is an autistic thing so the person in the pic is saying that they're genuinely autistic, which I feel explains a lot).

NSArbiter ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:40:21 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a great production tbh

10/10 I'd recommend

MobthePoet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:01 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saw this post while listening to Hamilton on Spotify lol

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ wtf01152015 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:27:17 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I actually am a fan of the musical myself, which is how I came across this post. The musical itself is great, but someone always has to take it way too far and make it weird...

edit: Also is chromosomal a way to say female? I didn't know that was a thing

BenjaminGeiger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:42:47 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

(Also, that "spoons" bullshit is an autistic thing so the person in the pic is saying that they're genuinely autistic, which I feel explains a lot).

Actually, "spoons" has more to do with chronic illness. Or had, at least.

Alabastercrab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:35 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Makes perfect sense

Ketonal_Scale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:06 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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All your favorite figures from history as you've never seen them before! And how you'd better see them from now on, if you know what's good for you! See Historical Figures Queer Headcanons, this summer, unless you're white!

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ wtf01152015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:50 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry to tell you this but that's already a thing :(

Ketonal_Scale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:25 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:( indeed. I just spent my life savings on my transgendered plantkin vs herbivorekin retelling of WWI. What will I do? What will become of me????

Ctlz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:55 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's called jealousy and insecurity.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:51 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

His son is in his head?

CustodianoftheDice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:31 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...

what

dashieundomiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:12 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hamilton fandom, really? You're already taking over the musical fanbase, which I'd be okay with if you weren't obnoxious assholes.

Mitsuki_Horenake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:53 on January 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just use reincarnation. It sounds less stupid.

Misterbrownstone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:39 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT: I am so fucking lost

ASideKick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:47 on January 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder what a tumblrina would say to a white cis who's fictive is some like Martin Luther King Jr.