You mean people don't want to hire 17 year olds at fifteen dollars an hour?

That's a fine image.

I honestly welcome 15 dollar an hour minimum wage. It will spur corporations to make leaps and bounds in automation technology.

birdboy can't make high energy trade deals that will actually bring back the american economy and abundant good paying jobs. trump will do more for the black youth in 1 year than obama ever fucking did.

The ban hammer is swift and deadly wow.

I couldn't even reply with facts to those who were crying that executives make more.

Anyways I still would like to add to the discussion that. The biggest group of employers is the small business sector (under 500 employees).

The small business sector do not have access to corporate welfare on the level the multinationals do.

So raising min wages to $15 is raising costs to a small business owner.

Small businesses cannot outsource their employees in most cases. They can't automate their workers to robots because it's not effectively maximizing capital.

Raising min wage to $15 will only raise inflation and %%% of taxes collected. Only winners? The multinational corporations and government tax collectors. Why do you think the big corporations stay quiet and let the small business owners cry about $15 min wage and let the media portray mom and pops stores as the bad guys for being greedy?

It makes me laugh when fast food workers want $15 an hour, I mean do they want to get replaced by machines?

But it's 'lifting all boats'!!! How can you be against that?!?!?! What could go wrong??

You know what's going to happen if thy all of the sudden raise the minimum wage to whatever absurd number they want? The Dunkin Donuts technique will be adopted, the companies will go automatic and fire thousands of workers. Employment will go DOWN because these whiny college students wanted more money for less work.

If we gradually increase the wages to stay in unison with inflation, that'll be fine, but we can't just raise it to 15$ out of the blue, it won't work.

Fun fact, companies like Walmart actually lobby for the increase of minimum wage. That way any small company trying to compete with Walmart is forced to pay their employees more, and when they can't afford it they shut down, eliminating Walmart competition.

Increasing the minimum wage actually allows for large companies like Walmart to get even bigger and stronger, and makes it even harder for the average joe to start their own business.

Unfortunately, a liberal wouldn't be able to follow what I've said so it doesn't really matter anyway.

Why do commies never separate teenage wages from an adult minimum wage anyway?

Fucking $15 in this shit hole of a state. Fuck me.

There is no better stimulus for automation than raising the minimum wage. They are shooting themselves in the foot these deadbeats.

The real minimum wage is zero.

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Investors and businessmen aren't the same thing.

Ban me.

ThIs meme is not a trump position.

Even worse it makes it appear trump is against higher wages which he isnt. Trump wants to bring higher wages back to the usa.

This makes trump seem like all the old republican candidates that failed because they didn't care about unlivable wages.

Trump isn't Romney. Don't turn him into Romney.

The problem with minimum wage isn't that it makes it harder for for employers to hire you.

The problem is that, if the minimum wage is $X per hour, and Joe's work provides less than $X of gross before-tax value, then the law is actually FORBIDDING Joe from finding a job. You're taking away Joe's rights, and then tellim him it's for his own good. (BTW, This is actually the economic justification for welfare)

Also, when Joe gets his welfare check, he is forced to purchase goods and services of inferior quality (due to labor shortage), and at a higher price (because of inflation).

On the other hand, there is a valid counter-argument against this point. The left will often argue that economics is cold, hard science. And since science has no morals, it sometimes reveals truths that are unpleasant. And if a fact makes me feel icky, then it must not be true.

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Here's the logic...

1. Entrepreneurs start businesses
2. Businesses create jobs
3. Entrepreneurs choose businesses which are profitable
4. Government has to pay for impact of people without a living wage
5. Businesses which cannot provide a living wage to employees are unattractive to government
6. Government discourages certain types of business to increase the incentive for entrepreneurs to turn their attention to other types of business

There's only a problem if you don't believe in the intelligence and capability of american entrepreneurs.

so true

For fucking real! So sick of these dumb fucking cucks

Don't ever try and explain this to a liberal. Math is too hard. Then they'll just say "basic income" as if that was a viable solution to anyone.

Double the wage, people need to work half as long so they can employ twice as many, great idea.

The real wage won't rise. It's why nearly all of North America has found a stagnant wage - at best - at the lower-middle and lower income levels. Despite increased nominal wage increases, the real wages stagnate or decrease.

But can he see why kids like cinnamon toast crunch?

Whoever said if they get hired at that rate that they have to give them full time?? Two to three hours a day for three days a week. Let's them focus on school instead of work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j01L69eXdI

This video does a great job of explaining why high minimum wage hurts the economy

Y'all heard of econonomics, I mean economics? Infation? Save me baby Jesus.

http://www.businessinsider.com/asher-edelman-endorses-bernie-sanders-2016-3

Real life Gordon Gecko talking about the velocity of money

Wake up sheeple. A living wage is a great thing.

wages should at least be raised to account for the rising inflation rates. I dont know how you can disagree with that

The only reason minimum wage needs to be raised is because of inflation.

Washington state seems to be doing just fine after their minimum wage was raised.

Washington state ranks No. 1 for combined job and wage growth

^{Originally published February 15, 2016 at 8:00 pm Updated February 16, 2016 at 4:18 pm}

“Washington is really overperforming on employment growth,” said Ahu Yildirmaz, head of research for ADP, a payroll services company.

Nationwide, employment and wages both increased by 2.1 percent year-over-year during the fourth quarter of 2015.

In Washington, however, employment climbed by 3.7 percent. Much of that came from hiring in construction, information technology, professional services, and leisure and hospitality industries

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Do people not understand what a pitiful amount of money is spent on wages in most industries?

Doubling Walmarts workers wages would only increase the average Americans bill there by not even a cent on the fucking dollar.

Low margin is not the same as all your costs are in labor.

Would the cost of framing a house go up and getting lawn care services? Undoubtedly.

Lower employment? There is very little evidence of that, we were 50% of world GDP with full employment with much relative higher minimum wages and tax rates less than 100 years ago.

Less Americans could hire maids and they'd have to mow their own lawn. Maybe pay a living wage for fruit, what a tragedy.

Why can't we be more like Saudi Arabia and have an underclass scrub our toilets for nothing? lol

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It's worse than this, double the minimum wage for LEGAL citizens. And then broadcast loud and wide that illegals won't be stopped.

Soo you can now get 3 illegals for the price of one legal worker. Congrats, you just done played yourself.

What Berniebots do not understand is that when illegals are deported and banned businesses will have to pay a liveable wage or go without workers. Getting rid of illegals will increase the minimum wage.

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This is bullshit. The real economics is that when more people have more money businesses make more money. Someone working 40 hours a week really should be able to live in a reasonable apartment and be able to afford to eat.

What I don't get about the people who oppose this is that they don't seem to understand that the taxpayers are currently paying to subsidize the income of all the people making 5-7 dollars an hour. Wouldn't it make more sense to stimulate the economony, increase the available cashflow, and use those tax dollars for something better?

There may be a few businesses that have to change how they operate but the vast majority will see increased revenue and the truly rich who are benefiting most from low wages will have to pay their fair share.

It is the short-sighted self-interests of business that shepharded this economic decline in the first place... offshore manufacturing brought down goods pricing but it also destroyed the disposible income levels of the middle class, reducing the buying power. A few corporations moved manufacturing overseas to increase profits and the rest had to follow to remain competetive but it was not for the greater good of North America at all.

Lololol

My question is how do we increase wages. Or are they to high and we should work to bring then down?

I actually learned exactly this in economics class, Bernie must of skipped his class

But if you double minimum wage their mom's income goes up and they don't need a job.

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Minimum wage may not be bad, but minimum wage with a weak border control is 100% a disaster. I'd say a better solution is to bring back the jobs.

A rising tides raises all boats.

Raising minimun wages motivates the youth to work, the reason they arent working is because it isnt worth it, not because the employers cant afford them.