Duck Hunt would win, since the duo is in fact a trio. Being the dog, the duck and a fourth-wall-breaking player, which would make him an omnipotent character

I nominate Rosalina, Duck Hunt, and R.O.B for being the strongest due to having elements that come from the real world.

Steve is hitting Kirby because he in second place

There are a couple of characters that can beat Creative Mode Steve.

The first is Sonic, providing we use the Archie Comics. In that medium, he not only has incalculable speed, but he also has what are essentially wish granting powers via the Chaos Force. With those he can bend reality and wish Steve out of existence long before he tries any commands.

The second is arguably Mewtwo. The reason for this is that we know that certain potions and items affect Steve even in Creative Mode, several of which mess with the mind or Steve's perception of reality (Nausea is the most notable example). This means that his brain can be affected even in Creative Mode, and therefore Mewtwo would have no trouble in wiping Steve's memory and ending the fight. True, it's not a kill but it still gives Mewtwo the win. This argument also applies to any character that has sufficient psychic power (Sephiroth comes to mind), but Mewtwo's abilities are the most likely out of them all to win.

The third is Zelda. We've seen that Steve can die if he's placed in some kind of void, which Zelda has an equivalent to via sealing her opponent in the Triforce of Wisdom.

The most logical counter-argument to most of these would be kill commands, but there's a huge problem - even in Creative, Steve is pathetically slow in comparison with 90% of the Smash Roster. Most characters have feats or scaling that puts them far above Steve, who can at best be put at peak human reaction speeds. So Mewtwo and Zelda would be able to pull off their win-conditions far faster than Steve can input his kill commands.

Steve doesn’t activate creative mode or do commands, the player does, so ultimately the most powerful being in Smash, as the SNES classic >! Earthbound !< tells us, is the player, since they are a step above the reality of the characters. If the player / the skill of the player decides Steve loses or Kirby loses, he does.

Saying Steve is the strongest because of creative mode is like saying mario is the strongest being in the universe because every time he dies, he just respawns.

What the fuck is a "Coffee with Milk mode"?

I mean if we’re cheating half the roster has access to a GameShark and is thus also immortal

DK is obviously the strongest because he has a godly singing voice

I don't like this argument. As much as I like Steve and wish he was the most powerful, this is clearly referring to their canonical forms, and Steve's canonical form is Hardcore mode. Even with that, he's probably still top 10. He's got insane control over magic, near-infinite durability, and massive damage output with enchanted weapons.

Saying Steve can use creative mode is like saying Mario can use Mario Maker Mode and delete his opponents from the level, or like saying DoomGuy is immune to all damage and has infinite ammo because of cheat commands, or saying that Link can use OoT Stale Reference Manipulation to rewrite reality. None of these things make sense when comparing canonical power levels.

I nominate Sephiroth, his abs can fuck creative mode

Isn't comic sonic insanely strong

Well this is talking canon. While canon Steve is pretty strong, activating cheats makes you stop gaining achievements, implying that you’ve gone off the canon.

R.O.B. is the only fighter that’s a physical object, and thus the only one capable of closing the Minecraft application

Mii Doom Guy Costume

The way I like to look at canonical tiers, it isn't EXACTLY about "who is stronger canonically," it's more like "who is capable of defeating what % of the roster."

This is because I firmly believe the highest tiers are perfectly capable of going toe to toe with one another and victory isn't certain for any one of them.

Mario if you give him his full bullshit. Mario maker hand could probably just delete Steve.

If we can give Steve his games cheats, everyone else should get GameShark/GameGenie/Action Replay.

Joker and Persona's broken ass lore: bonjour

Joker can become immune to instant death by having a persona with immunity to both mudo and hama, was able to slay a being that could warp reality akin to a god, is able to acess other dimensions and has access to attacks with the almighty element which cannot be resisted to or nullified/repelled. I would argue that he could actually take on steve given those tools

So in Creative Mode, you are literally unable to get hurt by any form of attack, no matter how powerful it is. There's only two ways you can die in Creative Mode: falling into The Void, or getting killed by a Kill Command. However, none of the other fighters (with the exception of Alex, but she's just an alt. so I won't count her) have access to Kill Commands, meaning that their only method of killing Steve in this form is to bring him down to The Void.

Additionally, could characters like Kirby inhale him to gain his powers, can someone trap him in another dimension, could someone like Byleth rewind time to kill him before he can enter Creative Mode, or would Steve simply /kill them or /teleport away too fast for them to do so? Could endgame Shulk or Pneuma erase him from existence, or is Creative Mode beyond the Monado III and Hatsune Miku 2.0's powers?

Does Steve have resistance to transmutation, or have a way to escape Black Holes? Because otherwise Bowser can take him down. And even if Steve can get Bowser down, Bowser can use a retry clock.

I mean, by that logic Sonic should get Debug Mode

Creative Mode isn't actual Steve with standard feats, so you can't put that on canon tiers. If you did, though, he would beat anything. Kirby's belly being a void doesn't mean he would be able to actually suck Steve in, because in a flying state in CM nothing really affects Steve at all.

Hence - /kill @e

Creative mode isn't canonical, and commands literally are called cheats in-game, so steve would be survival mode at most and more likely hardcore mode, meaning that anyone that moves faster than walking speed with a ranged attack could easily kill steve

What about the Mii Doom Slayer?

All hail the god Steve!

Ganon not even mentioned, pssh.

Steve will set your universe on fire, then crouch dance on the ashes

Yoooo I can have a creeper in Doomguy’s armor les gooooo

Math time:

Steve’s full inventory is 2,368m³ The densest item in the game is gold (19,300kg/m³⁾

This means Steve can hold about 45.7 million kg of gold.

In Minecraft the gravity is higher (~2.9 x Earth Gravity = 28.42m/s²⁾

Steve can jump 1m in game.

Gravitational potential energy is U=mgh

U = 45,702,400kg * 28.42m/s² * 1m

U = 1.3 million kJ of energy per jump

To put this in perspective that is the equivalent of about 1,000 sticks of dynamite every jump.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

if Steve has cheats or creative he is the strongest, if not it's Kirby

Seriously this has always been something that pissed me off about world of light. Like there's the entire Triforce, several God's/Godkillers, people that can see the future, sonic can run at the speed of light for fucks sake. Despite this Kirby is the only one that survives, and sure Kirby is powerful but the fact that they were the only survivor is kinda shit.

I don’t know man, Mario’s got Mario Maker tools and Cappy

It’s probably shulk

But they can all get into minecraft if someone just changes their skin to them, I don't see why Steve is unkillable. Just change skin, and type /kill

wheres rosalina

Kirby has taken on gods and space time itself he also has basically insane lives what's a god to a steve what's a steve to a kirby

But what if Herobrian joined smash?

So..... just something I should probably point out but Gannondorf can freeze time canonically if I’m not wrong... doesn’t he just win

Also yes I’m saying GANNONDORF is the best canonical character cry about it tier whores

Yah I mean if we’re using cheats I’ll just max Mewtwo’s stats and 1 shot Steve

Kirby is immune to reality erasure, in case some people didn't know ;)

Last I checked breath of the wild Link can destroy a giant demon with a stick

Kirby kills god, survives getting removed from existence, hero recreates reality in his image ect Steve isn't the strongest

Joker would probably be the best at beating steve, all he has to do is hop into the metaverse and shoot his shadow, and boom! Dead.

You're all wrong, the strongest character is...

You, the player, behind the character.

Because you're real, and they're fictional, and can be deleted/uninstalled by you.

...I'm kinda joking but I'm also kinda not.

The third member of the duck hunt duo. But nah in reality I think Steve is unbeatable in creative mode. The only way to die is if you purposefully do it.

Me sitting here maining snake with a bazooka

Steve Is The Best Character In The Roster No Matter What Move Set He Has.

when you're fighting a steve and he starts typing /gamemode creative

Yea Creative mode Steve

I'd say it's between Kirby and Steve. Steve is basically a god, but kirby has killed countless gods and even absorbed their powers. Let's say, theoretically, Kirby inhaled Steve while creative was turned on... It would destroy the whole universe

Even in survival mode he can lift mountains of fucking gold and still be fine

Bro Steve if he gets sucked in by Kirby when he is in creative will only be stronger than Steve he’s become admin of every Minecraft server and world and all will have to bow down to him

Kirby can still to absorbe Steve 😎

Sephiroth could stall out time matches with one of his attacks which is a two minute cutscene

I suppose that kinda makes Steve strong in a sense, but it's a lame discussion to have.

"Who's stronger? This character, or this other character but he's completely invincible and can do whatever he wants?"

I'd make the argument that "Creative Mode" is non-canon to Minecraft's "Narrative," and is merely a function of the game. We could say most games have cheat/debug modes, which make them omnipotent too. Mario-Maker Mario has "Maker" mode or whatever in which Mario can control time, space, has infinite lives, and can summon just about anything he wants from his games, among other functions. That's not Mario's "canon" powers; it's just a function of Mario Maker. That's how I see it. Plus, as I mentioned before, it makes for a boring discussion when characters are completely invincible and can do whatever they want.

Sonic in debug mode would fuck them all up

Full power shulk is literally a god, full power bayo is literally a god, full piwer byleth is a god, steve ceative mode is literally a god. Sephiroth is a good contender because his power is that of a god. But steve creative is just untouchable unless he allows it

Top 3 are 3. Kirby 2. Steve 1. Kirby with the Steve copy ability

Shulk could use Monado bullshit to un-Creative Steve, not even the grim reaper can kill Kirby so I doubt kill commands would work on him, Bayonetta is Bayonetta, etc.

How does that work? Isn’t it the mode that is creative not Steve? Therefore it’s more of a “home advantage” type thing and not necessarily himself?

Kirby still wins because his stomach is a void, the one thing that can kill a creative mode player.

can’t he use like “kill @e” or something and kill all spawned entities? So... yes?

Steve can mathematically skull fuck everyone being able to carry billions of pounds of weight without even breaking a sweat

Based

Are we going to forget that the whole Smash roster prior to Sephiroth's reveal couldn't take down Galeem together? Sephiroth only needed one hit.

..... Then there is Sora, who handled Sephiroth more than once...

not sure if people realize this but kirby can still outdo everyone no matter what since in kirby super star we have access to every copy ability despite not sucking anyone, which means that he has access to everyone's ability that he can suck and has ever sucked in any other universe, since kirby's abilities are basically another universe yet he still has access to it that means that if he had access to your ability in one universe then he has it in all of em.

so with steve's example, while there is a universe where he can use commands and creative mode there's also one where he js restricted to hardcore rules, which makes him vulnerable to being copied, and keep in mind that kirby has a copy ability that allows him to copy abilities so he doesn't even need to suck you to get your ability.

also also keep in mind, that kirby can choose what traits he wants from certain abilities as seen in kirby 64 so if there's pros and cons to having a certain ability he can simply just not take the cons, and can combine them with other abilities. meaning that kirby can always outdo you no matter what

/kill

Realistically, Smash Canon, I believe Sephiroth is the strongest. Look at his reveal, look at how he just disrespected Galeem like that

Steve doesn’t have creative mode or commands. The PLAYER has creative mode and commands.

I mean Sephiroth has come back from the dead twice just out of sheer willpower so I think he could give Steve a run for his money. Especially if he infects him with the geostigma from Advent Children

But he isn’t creative mode, now is he?

Steve in creative is essentially god. He can create any entity at will through mods as well so take down the smash roster with an army of Minecraft versions of them

Yeah,I'm pretty sure no amount of spamming Up-B,inescapable combos,Monado shenanigans,Nair spam, supersonic speed,Gigaflares,Disables,and long combo chains can hope to fight against /kill

the doom slayer

Archie Sonic: Allow me to introduce myself

Wait, wouldn't /kill e kill him too?

It’s still kirby

What does Kirby do that makes him op?

Duck Hunt. Specifically the player holding the zapper gun. He can simply turn the game off

If we're being serious though joker solos the entire roster knowing the persona verse

No

Despite creative mode, everyone else is so much faster, and kirbo could just inhale Steve gaining his creative mode powers making him the strongest again, also I’m not sure what kirbys stats are but his power is like anywhere from solar system to multiversal and I’m pretty sure he’s multiversal

I'd argue that commands aren't Steve's power, but the players or a property of the world of Minecraft.

So I'd say this: Steve (just spawned) probably starts with one of the lowest power levels in the game. However, he has basically no power cap - everything he touches basically becomes another tool for him. Give him a week and he'll take on gods.

For those who say that it's not fair to give him time to prepare, it's like giving Pokemon the time to level up instead of being lv1 all of the time, Samus time to get her suit upgrades, or Joker time to learn to use his persona.

So who could beat Steve? Well, I would've said Mewtwo, except in-game, Mewtwo can't move blocks psychically, it has to break them. Same with Sonic. Even Kirby can't just eat the blocks. He mines them. So, we must assume that the blocks are static, and unless they have gravity in Minecraft, they are nearly unmovable and remain fixed to the grid.

So I'd say: if Steve has a fortress, he basically wins. If Steve does not have his fortress, but does still have his tools, he's on par with Link and Ganon, Beats Bowser, but loses to Sonic or Mewtwo. If Steve has no tools, that's a bit unfair, take away Link's sword, Mario's fireball, Sonic's shoes (he'd burn his feet fast), Samus's gun, suit, whip, etc. And every tool every character uses, where Steve beats every muscular character with diamond-shaping strength, but loses to basically any magic or psychic character.

Okay but Steve’s typer, since he doesn’t have access to a keyboard himself…

It’s one randomly selected 7 year old child who is playing Minecraft pocket edition on their moms iPhone. Whoever can kill creative Steve faster than the child can type it in, wins.

kirby could suck him and then it's a fight of keyboard mashing

isn't respawning canonical in Minecraft? or Minecraft story mode is a different thing?

Creative mode Steve is still susceptible to the void and only has control over certain elements

Kirby eats and copies Steve's power. Steve, you had a good run, but none can defeat Void's most powerful incarnation.

Kirby eats Steve and gains access to those commands, thus making them equal in strength

If any character can use dark energy and kill Steve beforehand then they could beat him since the only thing that can kill Steve in creative mode is the void

I like Kirby as strongest character because of Kirby game design. He’s way too powerful an avatar for a platformer in order to help new players get into gaming. He’s suppose to feel like a power fantasy and have abilities that give him very many options in his games. This way anyone can try a Kirby game.

Also it’s got the amusing factor and it makes me roll my eyes less to just think that “yeah Kirby is strong so ppl can play Kirby of all levels“ then when nerds start getting into making graphs about abilities and and ”omega level” titling or whatever.

I think it’s the most inoffensive choice . Ppl dig Kirby.

granted I’m a biased but it’s not like I love Kirby because of any perceived power levels between characters that would never fight outside of smash brothers.

Kirby can probably eat Steve. Gravity still affects Steve In creative, showing enough force will move him.

In creative mode, Steve still dies in the void and is affected by currents and the like, so Kirby could inhale him.

What if cheats are disabled

i agree. creative mode is something official in minecraft, and he becomes invincible for basicly everything

Most of the roster could beat Steve like a ragdoll but noone could reasonably compare them without having played every game of every entry of the games featured by the smash roster. Most are also main characters and not just a default character like Steve so in a battle that was canonically given by someone they would win over Steve most likely. If something like this was made by Nintendo (Sakurai) with canonical accurate powers then Kirby would win against steve anyways by sending him into the void. I obviously don't have knowledge about every game but my run for the total victor would be on Shulk by just uncreative the entire smash fight that makes them battle. But I think in general who is the strongest is not possible to 100% decided

Sora cause he can seal Steve into the void

Kirby inhales him, copies him, gets command abilities, win

I don't know. Reality warping with the imagination as its limit is quite powerful

Can he beat goku tho?

Even without cheats or creative, Steve is like the Batman of smash. With enough prep time to build his resource farms and giant machines of death, he can beat anyone.

He isn't the strongest, but he is capable of carrying billions of tons on his back without breaking a sweat, so in physical strength, maybe

Steve has a limited amount of ressource so he’s not in creative mode in smash

I never played xenoblade 2, but wtf is coffee with milk mode?!

Yeah but he doesn't have creative mode (cuz he doesn't have infinite weapons and he still needs to mine) and the void still kills in creative (same void as stages' void) and he sometimes has /kill moments but those are rare and just are haha Steve 0-death

sora can use disney to sue steve, gg

Canonically sephiroth is the strongest cause he one shotted galeem

even if he isn't in creative mode, he is still incredibly strong. he can carry about 36 stacks of an item in his inventory. imagine that, but it's all shulker boxes filled with stacks of gold blocks. gold ain't exactly light.

however, this doesn't make him the strongest character. literally everybody in that image could kill him.

Does "/kill @e [type=!steve]" mean kill every entity excluding Steve

Doesn't Kirby just obliterate a Universe he wants to and rebuild it from scratch?

If he wanted to?

Steve can't use commands since he doesn't have a keyboard to write them with tho. Even if he did, you'd just have to kill him before he can do that. If not, just get kirby to eat creative commands Steve, so that kirby would also have creative and commands. Also some of the characters have the possibility of infinite lives e.g. corrin in phoenix mode

Love that I beat Xenoblade 2 before I saw this post so I can understand Coffee with Milk

“Is it CaNnOn ThO?!?!?!?!”

I stand for Kirby supremacy, he's canonically a being with infinite power

Wario cuz smelly fart

I love the universal codename

Consider the fact that Steve can carry hundreds of cubic meters of stone in his pockets and still run at a full sprint and jump.

Commands and creative mode aren't canon. Steve still has stupid feats, but counting those is just silly.

There is a problem Cheats arent on

Funny block man

"Coffee with milk mode"? Is that a reference to her blue air form?

But the power of monke is more then he could ever wish for!

Doom slayer

doomguy. he's so pissed off i dont think commands will work, creative is god mode, doomhuy has killed gods

Sonic's his name speed's his game

What about Game Genie Mario, invincible, unlimited lives, super jumps, and most important of all unlimited time

The Steve that's in Smash Ultimate isn't creative mode Steve, he has to mine stuff before using it.

I mean Steve with creative mode is invulnerable to knockback and damage. He can also destroy anything with the move of a finger. /kill allows him to instakill anything including objects that count as entities. He can fly and move at ludicrous speeds. We’re not gonna even mention commands besides /kill.

There’s only one fighter I can possibly imagine that could potentially tie with him

If Kirby can get close enough to Steve to inhale him, he could inhale him to take his abilities and become (almost) invulnerable. Then it’s just a test to see who can type faster.

On the other hand, even in creative mode Steve dies to the void, and since Kirby’s insides are just a void, he could potentially just die to getting inhaled

i mean i think kirby using steve’s copy ability could do the same thing steve does

What's coffee with milk mode?

Why can only Steve change the gamemode?

Shulk kinda gets creative mode for a bit at the end of Xenoblade

Yhea Steve wins he can just become immortal

It's Bayonetta. Period.

If bayonets slows him down, super Sonic could distract him for long enough for Kirby to eat him, after that he’s gone

If we aré talking character in smash, then gallem or dharkon.

If fighter, then rob ir duck hunt.

That's a fair point...

However Joker Persona 5 is out there actually killing literal gods of creation

Bayonetta's a hoe and she sucks.

kirby is f tier, why do some people say he's the best

How can that work if they're not in minecraft? Seems abit sus

pov: nobody here has played xenoblade 1 and knows shulk's full power