๐๏ธ ClysmiC ยท 28684 points ยท Posted at 17:14:59 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
horsht ยท 1471 points ยท Posted at 21:33:06 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When the CPU fans start spinning like crazy, as if a jet is about to lift off, the RAM usage spikes to 99% and everything crawls to a halt... That's when you know it's coming... Visual Studio, oh lawd it's coming...
My bedroom with my desk and computer is in the corner of the building and ordinarily freezing. It's nice and toasty when I've got my computer up and running though.
Winter climate means I can bump my CPU up to 5 GHz, so there's another plus.
I have an old phenom and a single 480. Can confirm that it heats up the room. But not from VS, that's too easy for it. Cities Skylines with all the DLCs and mods? Ou boy. I had to mount a fucking Dark Rock Pro 4 on it to get it under control.
It doesn't really spike mine at all 9700k @4.9 on a nh-d15 with two low rpm fans. I don't hear anything :) my work laptop screams the moment I try do any builds
Clone the roslyn repo https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn. It's the open source repo for visual studios backend. The solution has a 150 or so projects.
Now, I dare you to open it... If you didn't disable unit test scanning or full solution analysis, it will eventually just crash before it becomes usable. Or will crash as soon as you try to edit something. You can get by with code lens still enabled, but expect frequent near minute delays and "not responding" dialogs. When doing work in that solution, the devenv process will easily consume close to 3.5GB of ram. All in all, with the additional helper processes, you'll start swapping if you only have 16GB of ram. Consider 40% CPU usage your new idle usage. And 100% if you do anything.
I just find it funny that the software built with that codebase can barely run itself
I've got the same cooler, all it does is heat the room quicker compared to a bad one (more heat in the room, less in the CPU) once my 7600k gets anywhere up near or over the 4.7 GHz mark.
b1e ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:08:31 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I've got a Samsung 970 Evo Plus and not even those NVMe SSD speeds make a difference. It probably does help speed things up when VS starts dipping into the swap file though, considering even 16GB of RAM isn't enough for that greedy bastard.
hax34123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:06:31 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Visual Studio Code is a text editor, while Visual Studio is a much heavier full IDE which serves a different purpose. I once got ridiculed by a coworker who thought I was using the full IDE to edit HTML because he didn't know VS Code was something different. The name doesn't help.
I built a desktop for my remote work because I couldn't deal with the laptop they gave me anymore. The POS was pegged at 99% when running our azure service.
I think the main performance comes from the ipc improvements + clockspeed, my processor scored a measly 66 in cinebench r15 where as 6500 scores 541 (according to google),
But yeh 4gb ram vs 8gb could also be why, approx 6-8gb is usually reserved* on ssd which from that ~4gb is used for page filing,
Except bigger fans spinning at lower rpms don't make the sound of a jet engine?
You can optimise a desktop for silence and still keep performance up or you can buy a laptop with no fans :)
hughk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A laptop also allows you relocate to outside in Northern Canada or something.
I mean sure but I still generally need access to a socket if I'm working all day unless it's an ultrabook. But then I've no room for a mouse and keyboard. Just personal preference really I prefer a desktop because they are quieter , faster and I like to work at a desk.
An innocent click, LED starts to blink,
Disk's going crazy and you start to think,
what have you done - CPU nears meltdown.
Hug your loved ones - Visual Studio comes to town!
harshael ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:39:23 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or you're installing Node.
SamSlate ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:48:00 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wat.
How many times do you.. what version are you.. what?
Also it takes no time at all to install Node. I think they might have been trying to make an npm install joke.
harshael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:55 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That too, but no. Every time I have had to install node on my work machine, sounds like the end of the world. I have never installed it elsewhere. Maybe it's just that machine? It is noisy in general.
nojox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:15 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Visual Studio is just as bad as Photoshop when it comes to RAM usage. We're just lucky that it normally open files with small physical sizes.
You don't notice it as easy as the program that regularly manipulates 100MB+ images, but if you have 16GB of RAM or less you're going to be swapping it to disk with some code repositories in VS.
tcpukl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:23 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well yes. Our game engine uses alot of memory to link.
And, it's time to go to lunch since you won't be able to get anything done for 20+ minutes.
xxfay6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:27 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When we were finishing up the semester, I opened up all of the projects at once, ended up being about 12 instances. My Core m tablet didn't like that, took like 20 minutes to get back to usability.
dzrtguy ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 21:42:01 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It'd be a shame if you were forced to update that IDE without option and then be forced to reboot...
ericonr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:08 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Of all Windows issues, the incapability of modifying files on NTFS while they are open is one that I can't understand why they haven't fixed. Requiring a reboot to be able to use the newest version of quite a few pieces of software bogles my mind.
livens ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:06:18 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This was an even more terrifying event 20 years ago. Slow college PCs that VS took a good 20 minutes to load up on. I can still hear the hard drive grinding away.
I had this but with MATLAB 5 years ago. You had to arrive 30 minutes before the exam to make sure at least one PC had a loaded MATLAB ~5-10 minutes into the start of the exam.
Yeah this happens to me when I forget to right click and either open with code or notepad++. Maybe one day I'll change the default program. Probably not though. ๐
I'm not using VS, but how I know, Jetbrains has CLion for c/c++ and I have a question-what better for c and c++? VS or CLion?
DasEvoli ยท 697 points ยท Posted at 19:05:06 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing worse than clicking on visual studio instead of your browser in the taskbar (yea i should remove it)
k-pattern ยท 380 points ยท Posted at 20:10:13 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've got at least 3 different CAD packages on my computer I regularly use and each one loading slower than the other. When I click the wrong one I may as well have taken an extra coffee break.
Zamundaaa ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 21:27:46 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very concerned about you. These obscene amounts of coffee aren't healthy.
SirLich ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 22:16:01 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know the /r/blender circlejerk is strong on Reddit, and I'm not trying to contribute to that... but, I've always been so impressed with how fast it loads. Often 10 or 15 times faster than even a low end premium software like Fusion360.
nannal ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 22:24:56 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know the /r/air circlejerk is strong on Reddit but have you ever tried breathing anything else, fucking sucks man
SirLich ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 22:28:45 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know whether you're agreeing with me, or being ironic, or making fun of me. But have an upvote, and have a wonderful day :)
nannal ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 22:30:53 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really not sure where I was going with it either but it seemed funny to me.
a waste of red pill, it's just weaker when snorted. Everyone knows you need to crush it up and then roll it up in a small piece of paper and swallow so it all goes off at once when it gets to your stomach and opens up.
mapooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:03 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Weak, what you really need to do is crush it into a fine powder, dissolve in water to a syrupy consistency (heat may be required to speed up the process), then use a syringe to get it straight into your bloodstream ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
I'm 50% sure half of an Autodesk CAD program's loading times is the software cycling through 30 different obsolete DRM schemes that never got removed. Then when that's done it runs the same check for every included add-in. Then it sends the entire directory to the license server to make sure no one stripped those checks. Then it finally starts loading, and everything is great until it crashes twenty minutes later because it forgot it can use more than 1.5GB of RAM.
Story of my life. Never thought about it that way, makes sense now. I enjoy the features I get with Autodesk's engineering software, but man they can do with a little optimization.
And after it loads, you are modelling for 2 hours, then bam, after a ctrl-z it crashes and you haven't turned on autosave...
douira ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:15:06 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
tbh, blender is super fast if you have a computer that is suited for even using it properly in the first place
Jezza672 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:30:07 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Blender is a very different market to CAD packages. If you were to say this on a thread about say cinema 4D it would be fair play but fusion isnโt even comparable to blender really
SirLich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:53 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's fair. Although blender does have some good CAD add-ons
I Revits, Civil 3Ds(ugh, please kill me now, it's the worst of the lot), Infra(doesn't)works. I'm used to it though and I think you'll be hard-pressed finding packages from other companies as comprehensive and all-in-one; in terms of civil engineering and infrastructure design that is.
You really shouldn't run random programs as admin.... Especially VS which runs code dynamically. I have had it glitch and execute my code while running the code analyser before.
Encyphus ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:25:35 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's fun. But I have to run as admin to perform some functions. I've never had any problems anyway - not with code analyzer, or ReSharper.
I use VS for 6 hours a day every day and have for years. I can think of maybe one time I had to run it as admin and I can't even remember what it was for.
I remember a few years having all so many problems when not running as admin that I now just ensure it always is. I can't remember the original reasons anymore. Just that it made life hard not to
We use IIS express to debug locally and full fledged IIS on our web servers.
I run full IIS locally sometimes when I need to debug concurrency issues and such.
All right, figured out one of the errors immediately after opening a solution. The project in question won't even load.
The Web Application Project xxx is configured to use IIS. You do not have permission to access the IIS configuration file. Opening and creating web sites on IIS requires running Visual Studio under an Administrator account.
Strangely I donโt have any load time issues with VS. I click the icon and it pops up in about 3 seconds, ready to go. Opening a file / project takes 5 seconds.
Dregre ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:11:26 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure that isn't VS Code, not regular Visual Studio? Sounds way to quick for regular VS
Depending on how often you use it, Windows could be prefetching it into cache to make it load faster.
djinfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:50 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have VS pro 2017 on my work computer. They have 8gb of ram and a 3.4ghz 6th gen i7. No GPU. I've honestly never had any issues with it. Boots within seconds. I usually run 2 instances of it.
I dont actually notice any performance difference whether I'm using it at work or on my personal/school laptop which has much better specs.
The work desktops feel rather subpar so I'm genuinely confused about what everyone's talking about.
bannik1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:40 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have VS 2015 SP2 with analysis services, datatools, VB, C# and Python language packs installed.
I just benchmarked and it took less than a second to open the application, then 3 seconds to open a solution from my Azure TFS.
My PC is a little over 4 years old.
Are you running your applications off an HDD or logging onto a network based virtual machine?
If it's the former, get a SSD, they're cheap and worth the expense.
I have my OS and all my applications on one, then all my user settings and files on another that I have scheduled to automatically back up to an HDD every night.
glider97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:22 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
get a SSD
Tell that to my boss.
bannik1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:36 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They're 50 bucks, and if your boss doesn't want to do things that would improve your productivity why are they even there?
Well government for one. Everyone must be on the same machines for maintainability, and that means everyone must on the same machines as the people who only use Outlook and Excel.
In my experience, VS is fast, it's the extensions people pile up (especially ReShaper) that are slow to load.
t00sl0w ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:29:44 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Accidentally clicking on SSMS pisses me off more than VS because SSMS takes like a solid 900yrs to even show the splash screen and I have it running on a NVME. My VS loads to the base home screen pretty quickly if I accidentally click that
Is it really considered to be in the same family of software as the likes of Sublime, Notepad++, and nano? It has way more features than any of those three out of the box. I've always considered it an IDE, but maybe it's like a mini-IDE.
I feel like tacking on the word "a very well featured one" can turn anything into anything else. So a nuclear bomb is just a very well featured firework.
I feel like in order to be an IDE it needs to be able to build code on its own, which as far as I know it can't, you have to use the console or an extension to do so, at least in all the languages I've used it for.
glider97 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:40:15 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, possibly the only thing significantly differentiating it from ST is the debugger, and even that could probably be added via extensions. VS Code was designed to be a text editor first.
VSCode has a debugger out of the box. I don't know how fully featured it is because I haven't used it (to my regret) but it exists. I see the debug menu on my screen all the time.
glider97 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:02:12 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, not really. It relies on debugger extensions and third-party apps like Chrome and Node.js to debug anything. Try debugging .NET code without installing any extensions and you'll understand. Like I said, it's a text editor on steroids.
VS is an entirely different beast that was specifically designed for active development with features like out-of-the-box debuggers, code analysis tools, etc. There's a good reason why VS takes more time to load than VS Code, even though VS Code is written with Electron.
I feel like it doesn't speak to highly of dotnet. You can get about the same functionality out of vscode, an editor that uses electron, with much better performance than you can using an editor built on dotnet.
Where did they go wrong. Why is Javascript so much faster in the real world.
glider97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You can get about the same functionality out of vscode
Ehhh, not really. You'll have to do a shit ton of set up before you get there, and even then it will not be as smooth as VS on an SSD. Plus all the nuget packages...
The vscode guys really optimized the hell out of Electron, that's why it is so fast. Your run-of-the-mill startup does not have that kind of manpower or talent so you get these ram gobbling apps.
Yeah but if we hold the VS Studio debs to the same standard as Vscode's devs, why can't studio devs optimize the hell of of c#?
glider97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:04 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
First of all, VS Code is open source - on top of being extremely well-managed. Secondly, as I've mentioned before, their goals of text editors and IDEs are different so we'll basically be comparing apples and oranges.
conancat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:20 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
very. VS Code is usually for higher-level languages like JS or Python, while VS is usually for lower-level languages and projects like C# or Dotnet. lots of compiler and runtime and debuggers to load. VS users don't do console.log debugging like us plebs.
Been a while since I've used an actual IDE I suppose. But VSCode has a debugging feature which I've neglected to use since I usually just run a docker build and docker run which runs my unit tests, compiles my Go files into a binary, and then allows me to test the functionality from my browser (designing webapps for work mostly.)
BobDogGo ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 20:30:05 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't care if VS is already running either. We're going to get a whole new instance fired up.
Can't it open another window with the existing instance or is that not a thing?
JBatjj ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:57:16 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Mine just opens a new tab...
Varelze ยท 331 points ยท Posted at 19:38:05 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I associate everyting with a .bat file that either sends it to visual studio if it's running or opens it in notepad:
@echo off
for /f "tokens=2 delims=," %%I in (
'wmic process where "name='devenv.exe'" get ExecutablePath^,Handle /format:csv ^| find /i "devenv.exe"' ) do set "exepath=%%~I"
if %errorlevel% NEQ 0 (goto notepad)
"%exepath%" /edit "%*"
exit
:notepad
start /b "" notepad.exe "%*"
exit
Replace notepad with any other text editor (NP++, Sublime Text, Atom, VSCode, vim, emacs, or whatever else you might prefer) and this will be acceptable.
g27radio ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:08:58 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
.xml, .config, .log, and .bat should always open Notepad++ (or one of those other editors)
Edit: "always" is probably not the right word and I'll get beat up for it, but more to the point, this meme is accurate. I mean correct. Fuck it, gonna get beat up anyway.
Definitely not the only person; I do this too. I'll usually Right click > open with > Other program and find NP++ and reassociate the file if I know it's a text-based file.
It's nice that NP++ usually just shows up as an option before having to go the "Open With." I use Sublime and wish it would just show up after a right click.
Irl, That is not problem of windows but VS how is responding for api call.
But Enlight me, how VS should react to request for opening file which is not part of project? Itโs NOT file editor. Itโs IDE. Everything in one window is related to that particular project so current behavior is correct.
st_bf ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:15:40 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why open XML with VS although there are clearly better defaults?
Whatever sets the file type association is at fault.
conancat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:32:52 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
me: i need a knife
vscode: here's a knife
vs: please wait while i put together the whole fucking kitchen next to you right now. please wait while i look for something that resembles a knife in your new popup kitchen. here's are 26 different knives available in your kitchen, which knife would you like to use? please wait while I rearrange the kitchen's layout according to your knife selection.
Varelze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:01:42 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I would just love an option for visual studio react by opening a file using the command line arguments I'm sending it in my batch file, specifically /edit (file). Just my preference that if I already have it open I'd like to just edit a file using it rather than opening a whole new IDE instance. I have visual studio open all day and I use VSVim, so its pretty much my everything editor.
I graduated in computer engineering and not once were batch files ever mentioned.
TarmacFFS ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:08:27 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
The syntax is something only its creator can love, but they're useful. You can use bash scripts in Windows 10 by installing the Ubuntu subsystem though.
Nolzi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:20:59 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
better use Powershell instead
sunzoo ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:03:50 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Power shell execution policies is such a PITA.
Nolzi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:18 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Set-ExecutionPolicy Bypass
ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
sunzoo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:33:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is getting someone else to do that. I end up having the script then a bat that calls the script w/ the execution policy set. Life is hard.
Interesting! What kinds of limitations are there? I always mean to learn how bash works, but I'm always on Windows environments. Would be awesome learn without having to run Linux.
Anything you want to do in batch or ps scripts can be done in bash. The difference is it takes about 5% of the effort and it will continue to work forever.
You're willing to write and use a batch file to do this, but you choose the default notepad application to open things? Not a text editor like sublime or even notepad++ if you really want the lightning fast opening?
Windows programs can do that too. It's just they normally ask. Plus the default file association menu in settings has been pretty easy to get to since Windows 8, so you can normally change it back.
xxfay6 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:22:44 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Plus the default file association menu in settings has been pretty easy to get to since Windows 8, so you can normally change it back.
Disagree, having the new default programs be some obtuse categories and tons of whitespace makes them harder to navigate, this is one of the few things that I never liked when it was changed.
Although I do like how it asks when there's a new default, instead of just setting it.
Oh it got worse for default programs in general, especially default browser and mail client, but I think the file association was one of the few upgrades that win 8+ has over win 7, especially given how poor the rest of the settings menu is
Programs can't change things like the default web browser any more. If feels like Windows is moving away from allowing people ways to do this that aren't explicit to the user.
Also, Markdown files. I try to open a Readme and have to frantically cancel Xcode before it starts installing updates. For the love of all that is holy, just open it in VSCode. I even have it open already. Iโd even accept TextEditor or freaking Notes.
Menblock ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 21:39:43 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I just hard rebooted my pc today because Wine had made an association with .xml files. I clicked on the file, and then Wine started to boot Internet Explorer. Couldn't abort, so I had to kill the system. Pure trauma.
douira ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:17:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
that's just the worst, an emulated OS starts just to open a stupid xml file. Edit: TIL wine is not an emulator
The name is a recursive acronym: Wine Is Not an Emulator. My understanding is that it works as an intermediary between the kernel and Windows executables, re-mapping system calls to their posix equivalents.
douira ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:15 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
cool. TIL
I never used wine really so this is new. interesting concept.
ericonr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:55 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's a bit weird. I don't get why Wine associates itself with half the mime types. Even stuff like PDFs, when I have a perfectly good PDF reader like Okular.
I've got a closely related story from about five years ago. At my work, I deal with obnoxiously large JSON files. There was one in particular - it's contents automatically generated as part of the output of a much larger set of data - that was somewhere around 200mb.
I opened it in Notepad++ to look something up, as we didn't have much in the way of toolsets abstracting this data at the time. Somehow I accidentally hit a shortcut that caused the current document to "print now". There was no UI indicator that I'd done this, no notification - just a very long pause in the UI. I didn't think much of it.
Two days later, someone in IT came by with a stack of at least a thousand sheets of paper. "This yours? It only stopped because the printer ran out of paper."
Niyok ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:01:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
There needs to be some kind of stop confirmation on large print jobs like this. I've done something similar as well. Printed an executable across 200 pages full of random garbage. Panicked and ran to the printer. Staff at the time couldn't stop it coming through.
Naoik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:29 on November 5, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Username bros
VID44R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:32 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Couldnt one cancel it in the Spoolsv? On Windows at least.
Naoik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:52:59 on November 5, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse my meaningless question but did that happend while you in bungie ?
If you use the API, you may know that the Item definitions are particularly large: and back in D1, they had reached hundreds of MB in size. Sure enough, I printed out those item definitions. Whoops.
I like how software like IDEs has become so bloated that we talk about it no longer as just "opening" but as "booting up" and no one even questions it.
Totoze ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:37:57 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
On my machine it takes around one and a half seconds at most. All I'm using is a 4 core Intel cpu and a normal sumsung SSD. I think you can't call it a lightweight program but it's really nothing special in terms of loading time.
Maybe for some people on low end laptops opening visual studio is a big deal
I love accidentally opening some other program I never use and it has to take five years to awaken from the depths of Hell only for me to immediately kill it
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:48 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Life tip: Set every code file default to Notepad++ VSCode Vim. Don't open code files through your file manager
FTFY. For real, I literally only open code using vim filename or even plain vim, then navigating to the file from there.
folkrav ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:53:59 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I get where you come from and that's exactly how I work, but let's not pretend everyone loves the CLI. I don't understand it, but it's true.
ericonr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:53 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Emacs can work as a GUI application, allows you to navigate to whichever file you want, and can be configured to work as a proper text editor with Evil Mode. You don't have to love the CLI to have proper editors.
Though even when I used sublime I constantly used subl to open stuff on the CLI.
folkrav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:14 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i have no idea what's going on in my mechanics of programming class but i sometimes see my professor use :wq and i just bask in knowing i have superior knowledge of :x
Out of curiosity, if you had an extremely large log file and wanted to efficiently open, read and regex it, what would you use on Linux? I'm in the habit of importing logs to my desktop, which happens to be a Windows machine, so I haven't really had to worry about it.
Efficiently? I'd learn some command line, probably. If I have all the time in the world and a graphical interface, then VSCode can regex search in large files but might take some time to colorize the file, if it decides to colorize it.
Otherwise, some Google search, a cheat sheet, and an hour later, I should have a solution that's easily reproducible to save time later.
I guess I could open the file, find what to filter out, egrep - v and pipe to a new file to reduce the number of lines. But Notepad++ can do all of that without much overhead. I've never seen a better solution for log files outside a dedicated DBMS.
And not a recent VS either, but that copy of VS 2005 that gets installed because of that one application no one should waste time updating but is critical it keeps working.
have you guys experienced the 'feature' where WIN10 will revert all your associations the minute a selected program fails to open a file? Like say you have PHotoshop set to open jpgs, gifs etc, if for any reason that fails it will revert all to defaults
Niyok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still on win7. I keep seeing things like this, and I think I'll never upgrade. More cons than pros.
ampdecay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:48 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
good luck keeping your system protected when win 7 has known security exploits that Microsoft said will not fix.
at least you still don't use XP, fuck those people are the worst
loofy2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:25:17 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
vscode on macos is very light. Itโs comparable to Sublime or Notepad++. Not sure about intellisense tho
This scenario is literally why I started using vim. Started learning it while waiting for VS to start. Now I live in Vim, and VS very rarely gets launched for debugging.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:28 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I learned in Windows. Then I got snarky and only coded in Linux for a few years. Now I do both and I hate the toolchains equally. The only thing worse is osx. Iโd rather program on my TI-89 than in osx.
minsin56 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:13 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you manually change the link to a different subreddit? If you just type something like "r/TheStopGirl", Reddit will automatically link it. You don't need to manually do it, and in fact if it's the same place Reddit won't count it.
I use Windows because outdated Macs cost about 3x as much as my PC did, and because it's not like a Linux user is going to use something they didn't make anyway.
For a second I was like "Man I'm not sure I remember this line - is it from The Hobbit?"
Then my brain started working and I did a forehead whap.
It's likely from after Pippin checks out the Palantir.
ender89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:44 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Associate everything with vs code (or a similar light ide/text editor) and rely on project files to open things in your real ide. That way you don't end up launching something that will crash when trying to open up a 9gb csv file.
The struggle is real. I have a weak SP4 (M3 processor, 4GB of memory), and if I accidentally open some Goliath of an IDE like IntelliJ or VS, trying to open even the task manager often causes the whole thing to seize up.
jstyler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well go get a blood test and supplement accordingly
fozzie33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:20 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same with a .sql file in a txt editor and sql server management studio opens
Me opening a 1.5 gb csv somehow thinking it will help me
Edit: nvam sorry I was thinking of VS code
jstyler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:08 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle didnโt fire you your quit
Ildigrub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:57 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They're trying to make us use visual studio for our HTML/JS class in college and I've been as resistant as possible in sticking with notepad++ as long as I can
alakani ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:58 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, or even worse, opening something starts booting a VMware box. Fuck apps that automatically associate themselves with random filetypes. This is why I never reinstall a machine after I get my environment set up :P
jstyler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:04 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Clear your inventory to get a perfect result ;)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:11 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I had to install ProjectLibre for a class on my work laptop. It automatically associated XML with itself. Does this program really think that any xml file should be used with ProjectLibre? Pissed me off.
rrjamal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:13 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My fucking JSON files keep opening in VS.
I so rarely have to open them that I never bother changing the file association. I keep telling myself I'll just do it next time.
Skyrmir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:05 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno what microsoft thinks a .Def file is, but none of the ones on my hard drive are them. And damnit I'm getting tired of closing studio every time I open one of our proprietary .def files.
Visual studio is comparatively lightweight.. Try accidentally opening Android Studio and kick off a Gradle sync.. I swear Google has hidden a cryptominer in there, and that's how they make their money.
I've recently learned on Windows 10, if you right click the app icon in the task bar and click close, it'll close the app immediately before it finishes loading
asiyehh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:32 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or Xcode or SSMS starts
Lobanium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:53 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Who says "booting up" when taking about applications?
๐๏ธ ClysmiC ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:04:29 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Some applications take long enough to load to warrant the term.
atimholt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:51:34 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
(Windows) ctrl-shift-esc, click the process, click โend taskโ.
morb6699 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:09 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's if and when you manage to get task manager to open.
You'll be crawling begging with each jerky motion of the mouse that the kill dialog pops up soon as you take off towards the moon.
jlamothe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:29:18 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't used Visual Studio in many years. I had an old job that forced it on me. This subreddit gives me zero reason to start. I don't even know if they make it for my OS.
Iohet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:42 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Only if the file is saved with the formatting. A lot of autogenerated XML is inline, no line breaks, no tabs. Notepad++ with XML Tools allows you to reformat the file with the appropriate line breaks and tabs in one click
Snow88 ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 19:31:37 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
horsht ยท 1471 points ยท Posted at 21:33:06 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When the CPU fans start spinning like crazy, as if a jet is about to lift off, the RAM usage spikes to 99% and everything crawls to a halt... That's when you know it's coming... Visual Studio, oh lawd it's coming...
BustedBaneling ยท 256 points ยท Posted at 21:53:09 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
See this is why I prefer a desktop
ThePretzul ยท 552 points ยท Posted at 22:50:02 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You act like Visual Studio runs any differently on a desktop, but I swear my room temperature spikes by 5 degrees whenever I launch that unholy beast.
imperiusdamian ยท 189 points ยท Posted at 22:56:41 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I need your desktop, it's fucking freezing in here.
PM_ME_NBSP ยท 216 points ยท Posted at 00:21:26 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
[https://m.xkcd.com/1172/](Relevant xkcd) (or at least the alt text is)
Edit: idk wtf is up with formatting, [https://xkcd.com/1172/](here)
Edit 2: fuck
Edit 3: god dammit I'm an idiot, I got it, here
24pepper ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 02:28:07 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Every programmer knows what you just went through.
imdefinitelywong ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:06:37 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You are describing my pain and I don't like it.
imperiusdamian ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:24:20 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That is epic.
Silentrizz ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:21:00 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the true workaround is always in the comments
Zer0ji ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:00:12 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I love your username, do you get lots of PMs?
PM_ME_NBSP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:17 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A few, but not a lot.
jhthenerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:58 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh yes, the joys of markdown
PM_ME_NBSP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:02 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not even that, the app I use HAS A BUTTON, AND SAYS "URL" AND "TEXT". I'm just blind apparently and twice in a row put them in the wrong box lol.
Proxy_PlayerHD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:54 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
you know you can remove/rewrite stuff right... you don't need to add more things to it...
Afflictare ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:57:09 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they want others to follow along their painful journey?
PM_ME_NBSP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:10 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I like to usually mark when I put edits for some reason. I could just replace it, you're right.
ThePretzul ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:10:22 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My bedroom with my desk and computer is in the corner of the building and ordinarily freezing. It's nice and toasty when I've got my computer up and running though.
Winter climate means I can bump my CPU up to 5 GHz, so there's another plus.
ihatehappyendings ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:51:55 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up an old phenom processor with two 480s in SLI
georgewesker97 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:09:15 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have an old phenom and a single 480. Can confirm that it heats up the room. But not from VS, that's too easy for it. Cities Skylines with all the DLCs and mods? Ou boy. I had to mount a fucking Dark Rock Pro 4 on it to get it under control.
BustedBaneling ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:24:17 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't really spike mine at all 9700k @4.9 on a nh-d15 with two low rpm fans. I don't hear anything :) my work laptop screams the moment I try do any builds
8lbIceBag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:10 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Clone the roslyn repo https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn. It's the open source repo for visual studios backend. The solution has a 150 or so projects.
Now, I dare you to open it... If you didn't disable unit test scanning or full solution analysis, it will eventually just crash before it becomes usable. Or will crash as soon as you try to edit something. You can get by with code lens still enabled, but expect frequent near minute delays and "not responding" dialogs. When doing work in that solution, the devenv process will easily consume close to 3.5GB of ram. All in all, with the additional helper processes, you'll start swapping if you only have 16GB of ram. Consider 40% CPU usage your new idle usage. And 100% if you do anything.
I just find it funny that the software built with that codebase can barely run itself
And by god don't try it if you have ReSharper
ThePretzul ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:41:25 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've got the same cooler, all it does is heat the room quicker compared to a bad one (more heat in the room, less in the CPU) once my 7600k gets anywhere up near or over the 4.7 GHz mark.
b1e ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:08:31 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but thatโs very much the point.
ThePretzul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:17 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely. CPU temps are good, room temps are warm.
tcpukl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:26:28 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that the point?
ThePretzul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:31 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely. CPU temps are good, room temps are warm.
poopyshoot420 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:56:45 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My room spikes at least 5 degrees just by turning my desktop on. It doesn't even need to be running anything
FarhanAxiq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:02:49 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
true, even with ssd and top of the line cpu wont help
ThePretzul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I've got a Samsung 970 Evo Plus and not even those NVMe SSD speeds make a difference. It probably does help speed things up when VS starts dipping into the swap file though, considering even 16GB of RAM isn't enough for that greedy bastard.
hax34123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:06:31 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Android studio would like a word
Tyfyter2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What version are you using? I'm pretty sure I use the 2017 community version and it doesn't cause much lag for me.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:59:12 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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sveach ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:27:38 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not VS Code the text editor. Visual Studio, the full fledged IDE. I swear it takes 30 seconds to start up. If youโre lucky.
MaxDPS ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:29:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Visual Studio is different from VS Code
AMathMonkey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:34:55 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Visual Studio Code is a text editor, while Visual Studio is a much heavier full IDE which serves a different purpose. I once got ridiculed by a coworker who thought I was using the full IDE to edit HTML because he didn't know VS Code was something different. The name doesn't help.
ThePretzul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:32 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The kind that only opens Visual Studio once a year when we misclick, and then it goes through 30,000 steps to start up and update.
gambit700 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:23:58 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I built a desktop for my remote work because I couldn't deal with the laptop they gave me anymore. The POS was pegged at 99% when running our azure service.
Ghost_Syth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:15 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, It opened up hella faster on a 4c4t system than 2c2t celeron ;-; (uni computers 6th gen i5 vs n2840 laptop + ssd)
ericonr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:57 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Double the threads shouldn't make such an enormous difference for compile times. You could be RAM bottlenecked as well.
Ghost_Syth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:40 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think the main performance comes from the ipc improvements + clockspeed, my processor scored a measly 66 in cinebench r15 where as 6500 scores 541 (according to google),
But yeh 4gb ram vs 8gb could also be why, approx 6-8gb is usually reserved* on ssd which from that ~4gb is used for page filing,
Cameltotem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:41 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What if I told you a desktop is the same as a laptop?
BustedBaneling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:20:44 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Except bigger fans spinning at lower rpms don't make the sound of a jet engine? You can optimise a desktop for silence and still keep performance up or you can buy a laptop with no fans :)
hughk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A laptop also allows you relocate to outside in Northern Canada or something.
BustedBaneling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:58 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I mean sure but I still generally need access to a socket if I'm working all day unless it's an ultrabook. But then I've no room for a mouse and keyboard. Just personal preference really I prefer a desktop because they are quieter , faster and I like to work at a desk.
Cameltotem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:02 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If you have shitty cpu fans it will sound bad too yeah. Sure laptops are usually a lot worse
BustedBaneling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:59 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well yes that's obvious but it much easier to choose which fans I'm putting into a pc I'm building vs a laptop I'm buying
Mad_Jack18 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:26:26 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Have you heard Android Studio?
Shlkt ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:19:14 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That, or Visual Studio is already running and I just forgot to close the XAML designer.
SwissPatriotRG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:51 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta change it to open the text editor by default. The xaml designer is basically a useless resource goblin.
swissfizz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:00:14 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
An innocent click, LED starts to blink, Disk's going crazy and you start to think, what have you done - CPU nears meltdown. Hug your loved ones - Visual Studio comes to town!
harshael ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:39:23 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or you're installing Node.
SamSlate ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:48:00 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wat.
How many times do you.. what version are you.. what?
uneditablepoly ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:25:12 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Also it takes no time at all to install Node. I think they might have been trying to make an
npm installjoke.harshael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:55 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That too, but no. Every time I have had to install node on my work machine, sounds like the end of the world. I have never installed it elsewhere. Maybe it's just that machine? It is noisy in general.
nojox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:15 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
8GB RAM on a desktop and the thing still hangs.
robbert_jansen ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:07:48 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
8GB isn't a lot in 2019.
douira ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:15:36 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
*starts swapping RAM to hard disk*
tcpukl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You need more ram.
ThePretzul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:17 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Visual Studio is just as bad as Photoshop when it comes to RAM usage. We're just lucky that it normally open files with small physical sizes.
You don't notice it as easy as the program that regularly manipulates 100MB+ images, but if you have 16GB of RAM or less you're going to be swapping it to disk with some code repositories in VS.
tcpukl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:23 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well yes. Our game engine uses alot of memory to link.
superxpro12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:28 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Off in the distance, a black hole forms
notperfectworld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:47 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And, it's time to go to lunch since you won't be able to get anything done for 20+ minutes.
xxfay6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:27 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When we were finishing up the semester, I opened up all of the projects at once, ended up being about 12 instances. My Core m tablet didn't like that, took like 20 minutes to get back to usability.
poophole3423 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:50 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
we are no longer the knights who say "ni"
we are now the knights who say ".ncb"
warpedspockclone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:44 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That is just normal Windows behavior, whaddaya mean? Add in 100% disk usage.
Knudsenmarlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:58 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
"You have opened a portal to the ancient gods. You must pay the price"
TortoiseGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:34 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Put it on an SSD
ThisTakenIsUsername ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:05:14 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Mine used to do that from Chrome, probably all the spyware starting up. Fuck Chrome.
R2CX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:37 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Literally what happens when alt+tabbing into Chrome.
Inqe ยท 1268 points ยท Posted at 18:33:14 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
These tears in my eyes are from laughing too hard, not from the PTSD this post triggered!
BaseballCDC ยท 303 points ยท Posted at 19:26:37 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Some real post traumatic stress disorder
del6022pi ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 20:20:40 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I get it.
daftmaple ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 21:46:50 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I want to delete all of these puns
Agent-008 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 21:48:30 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Don't push the delete button
Chroneis ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:26:04 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
*holding the button* okay I'm just going to put that aside
tatloani ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:37:40 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
im gonna need to rest after all these puns.
vancity- ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:00:06 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I dont GET it.
Edit: It was DNS
cuplizian ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:08:45 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
now I can't get it all out of my head
Chroneis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:30:41 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, I'll patch things up for ya
Ninjafox724 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:09 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
don't delete them, just put them away
SuspiciouslyElven ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:49:37 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Post triggered stress disorder
dzrtguy ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 21:42:01 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It'd be a shame if you were forced to update that IDE without option and then be forced to reboot...
ericonr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:08 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Of all Windows issues, the incapability of modifying files on NTFS while they are open is one that I can't understand why they haven't fixed. Requiring a reboot to be able to use the newest version of quite a few pieces of software bogles my mind.
livens ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:06:18 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This was an even more terrifying event 20 years ago. Slow college PCs that VS took a good 20 minutes to load up on. I can still hear the hard drive grinding away.
kirmaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:38 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I had this but with MATLAB 5 years ago. You had to arrive 30 minutes before the exam to make sure at least one PC had a loaded MATLAB ~5-10 minutes into the start of the exam.
tstephansen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:42 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this happens to me when I forget to right click and either open with code or notepad++. Maybe one day I'll change the default program. Probably not though. ๐
Zelourses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:37 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not using VS, but how I know, Jetbrains has CLion for c/c++ and I have a question-what better for c and c++? VS or CLion?
DasEvoli ยท 697 points ยท Posted at 19:05:06 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing worse than clicking on visual studio instead of your browser in the taskbar (yea i should remove it)
k-pattern ยท 380 points ยท Posted at 20:10:13 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've got at least 3 different CAD packages on my computer I regularly use and each one loading slower than the other. When I click the wrong one I may as well have taken an extra coffee break.
Zamundaaa ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 21:27:46 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very concerned about you. These obscene amounts of coffee aren't healthy.
SirLich ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 22:16:01 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I know the /r/blender circlejerk is strong on Reddit, and I'm not trying to contribute to that... but, I've always been so impressed with how fast it loads. Often 10 or 15 times faster than even a low end premium software like Fusion360.
nannal ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 22:24:56 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
SirLich ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 22:28:45 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know whether you're agreeing with me, or being ironic, or making fun of me. But have an upvote, and have a wonderful day :)
nannal ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 22:30:53 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really not sure where I was going with it either but it seemed funny to me.
IamImposter ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:55:03 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have same problem. Things seem funny in my head but when I open my mouth, it all goes south.
WhiteKnightC ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:51:30 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think most of the users on this sub have this same problem, a nice lack of social skills I think that's why Stack Overflow is so passive-agressive.
A_Light_Spark ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:26:08 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do you think it's really air that you are breathing?
nootnootimagus ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:34:46 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
... woah
heyeveryone2 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:10:05 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You took the red pill too huh?
Lord_Of_Millipedes ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:28:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Crushed the red pill then snorted it
SpitfireP7350 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:18 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
a waste of red pill, it's just weaker when snorted. Everyone knows you need to crush it up and then roll it up in a small piece of paper and swallow so it all goes off at once when it gets to your stomach and opens up.
mapooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:03 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Weak, what you really need to do is crush it into a fine powder, dissolve in water to a syrupy consistency (heat may be required to speed up the process), then use a syringe to get it straight into your bloodstream ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
SuperSupermario24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:39 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Are you telling me you don't like trying to breathe water
the_aquacadet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:15:24 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Counterpoint: nitrous
MiLlamoEsMatt ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 00:03:26 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 50% sure half of an Autodesk CAD program's loading times is the software cycling through 30 different obsolete DRM schemes that never got removed. Then when that's done it runs the same check for every included add-in. Then it sends the entire directory to the license server to make sure no one stripped those checks. Then it finally starts loading, and everything is great until it crashes twenty minutes later because it forgot it can use more than 1.5GB of RAM.
I'm going to scream.
streusel_kuchen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:45:12 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Part of me wishes autodesk would port their software to Linux, another part makes me wishes they'd burn it all.
k-pattern ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:08 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Story of my life. Never thought about it that way, makes sense now. I enjoy the features I get with Autodesk's engineering software, but man they can do with a little optimization.
TortoiseGod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:13:23 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And after it loads, you are modelling for 2 hours, then bam, after a ctrl-z it crashes and you haven't turned on autosave...
douira ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:15:06 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
tbh, blender is super fast if you have a computer that is suited for even using it properly in the first place
Jezza672 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:30:07 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Blender is a very different market to CAD packages. If you were to say this on a thread about say cinema 4D it would be fair play but fusion isnโt even comparable to blender really
SirLich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:53 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's fair. Although blender does have some good CAD add-ons
kilogears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:14 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Blender is an amazing piece of software. It used to actually fit on a floppy disk (late 90s).
And yes the contrast to autodesk is crazy.
alkrun ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:26:25 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This guy Revits
k-pattern ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:45:25 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I Revits, Civil 3Ds(ugh, please kill me now, it's the worst of the lot), Infra(doesn't)works. I'm used to it though and I think you'll be hard-pressed finding packages from other companies as comprehensive and all-in-one; in terms of civil engineering and infrastructure design that is.
UnidentifiedTomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:41 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You guys are killing me
ICantSeeIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:56 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Use Creo at all? I always found it was quick relative to SolidWorks or any of the garbage AutoDesk puts out.
nlofe ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 22:13:20 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wonder how much time I lost accidentally opening GIMP and waiting for fonts to load
tet5uo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:54:19 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
here comes that script-fu.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:03 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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JakobMoeller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:15 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why not?
IjonTichy85 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 21:56:29 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... and then you're like 'fuck it now I'll just write my own browser'... We've all been there
MiLlamoEsMatt ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:09:08 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
TheImminentFate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:46 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And the whole time VS will complain that it canโt find your WpfApp1 namespace
PulseInstance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:01 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait till you start thinking about creating your own email client
mustang__1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:20 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
With blackjack! And hookers!
Encyphus ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 22:11:09 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Good trick:
If you accidentally click it, click "no" and it will close the program. I do this all the time with CMD in my taskbar
AlwaysHopelesslyLost ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 22:22:23 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You really shouldn't run random programs as admin.... Especially VS which runs code dynamically. I have had it glitch and execute my code while running the code analyser before.
Encyphus ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:25:35 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's fun. But I have to run as admin to perform some functions. I've never had any problems anyway - not with code analyzer, or ReSharper.
Sandlight ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:50:57 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well I did it once and my girlfriend got pregnant. Crazy, I know!
WiggleBooks ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:11:51 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
kirmaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:04 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
rm -rf
conancat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:12:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
your girlfriend likes it micro and soft?
8lbIceBag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:21 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure you can't debug or do some other super common dev things if you don't run it in admin.
AlwaysHopelesslyLost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:36 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I use VS for 6 hours a day every day and have for years. I can think of maybe one time I had to run it as admin and I can't even remember what it was for.
8lbIceBag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. Do you use IIS?
I remember a few years having all so many problems when not running as admin that I now just ensure it always is. I can't remember the original reasons anymore. Just that it made life hard not to
AlwaysHopelesslyLost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:06 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We use IIS express to debug locally and full fledged IIS on our web servers. I run full IIS locally sometimes when I need to debug concurrency issues and such.
8lbIceBag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:41 on October 31, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
All right, figured out one of the errors immediately after opening a solution. The project in question won't even load.
AlwaysHopelesslyLost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:24 on October 31, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do you actually need to use IIS? That is why they made IIS express
adamits ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:09:32 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Better trick: use emacs for everything
xynixia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:48 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
laughs in nano
Encyphus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:19 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
laughs in Vim
Actually I like Nano a little better. Don't tell the purists though.
BrisingrAerowing ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:38:11 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Strangely I donโt have any load time issues with VS. I click the icon and it pops up in about 3 seconds, ready to go. Opening a file / project takes 5 seconds.
Dregre ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:11:26 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure that isn't VS Code, not regular Visual Studio? Sounds way to quick for regular VS
PyroKnight ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:25:30 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
He could be running a nvme SSD. I know both VS code and VS open pretty quick (VS code being instantaneous though).
xxfay6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:01 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Only if it's a 905p.
BrisingrAerowing ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:34:25 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, itโs normal VS. And I do have an SSD.
TheImminentFate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:15 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on how often you use it, Windows could be prefetching it into cache to make it load faster.
djinfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:50 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have VS pro 2017 on my work computer. They have 8gb of ram and a 3.4ghz 6th gen i7. No GPU. I've honestly never had any issues with it. Boots within seconds. I usually run 2 instances of it.
I dont actually notice any performance difference whether I'm using it at work or on my personal/school laptop which has much better specs.
The work desktops feel rather subpar so I'm genuinely confused about what everyone's talking about.
bannik1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:40 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have VS 2015 SP2 with analysis services, datatools, VB, C# and Python language packs installed.
I just benchmarked and it took less than a second to open the application, then 3 seconds to open a solution from my Azure TFS.
My PC is a little over 4 years old.
Are you running your applications off an HDD or logging onto a network based virtual machine?
If it's the former, get a SSD, they're cheap and worth the expense.
I have my OS and all my applications on one, then all my user settings and files on another that I have scheduled to automatically back up to an HDD every night.
glider97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:22 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to my boss.
bannik1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:36 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They're 50 bucks, and if your boss doesn't want to do things that would improve your productivity why are they even there?
jevans102 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:22 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well government for one. Everyone must be on the same machines for maintainability, and that means everyone must on the same machines as the people who only use Outlook and Excel.
TSP-FriendlyFire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:38 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, VS is fast, it's the extensions people pile up (especially ReShaper) that are slow to load.
t00sl0w ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:29:44 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Accidentally clicking on SSMS pisses me off more than VS because SSMS takes like a solid 900yrs to even show the splash screen and I have it running on a NVME. My VS loads to the base home screen pretty quickly if I accidentally click that
Musojon74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This.
RemysBoyToy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:05 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Get SSDs bro
kabrandon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:01 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've not used VS. Is it that much different from VSCode? The latter opens near instantly for me.
wil_is_cool ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:09:23 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They share a name, and well, that's about it.
VSCode is a text editor (with lots of extensions, you can turn it into whatever you want)
VS is an IDE out of the box
kabrandon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:16:25 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is it really considered to be in the same family of software as the likes of Sublime, Notepad++, and nano? It has way more features than any of those three out of the box. I've always considered it an IDE, but maybe it's like a mini-IDE.
raltyinferno ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:17:56 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It really is a text editor, it's just a very well featured one.
kabrandon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:07 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like tacking on the word "a very well featured one" can turn anything into anything else. So a nuclear bomb is just a very well featured firework.
raltyinferno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:27:20 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like in order to be an IDE it needs to be able to build code on its own, which as far as I know it can't, you have to use the console or an extension to do so, at least in all the languages I've used it for.
glider97 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:40:15 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, possibly the only thing significantly differentiating it from ST is the debugger, and even that could probably be added via extensions. VS Code was designed to be a text editor first.
kabrandon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:43:00 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
VSCode has a debugger out of the box. I don't know how fully featured it is because I haven't used it (to my regret) but it exists. I see the debug menu on my screen all the time.
glider97 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:02:12 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, not really. It relies on debugger extensions and third-party apps like Chrome and Node.js to debug anything. Try debugging .NET code without installing any extensions and you'll understand. Like I said, it's a text editor on steroids.
VS is an entirely different beast that was specifically designed for active development with features like out-of-the-box debuggers, code analysis tools, etc. There's a good reason why VS takes more time to load than VS Code, even though VS Code is written with Electron.
kabrandon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ah fair enough. I was not aware that the baked in debugger relied on extensions to actually debug.
8lbIceBag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:12 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I feel like it doesn't speak to highly of dotnet. You can get about the same functionality out of vscode, an editor that uses electron, with much better performance than you can using an editor built on dotnet.
Where did they go wrong. Why is Javascript so much faster in the real world.
glider97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ehhh, not really. You'll have to do a shit ton of set up before you get there, and even then it will not be as smooth as VS on an SSD. Plus all the nuget packages...
The vscode guys really optimized the hell out of Electron, that's why it is so fast. Your run-of-the-mill startup does not have that kind of manpower or talent so you get these ram gobbling apps.
8lbIceBag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:37 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but if we hold the VS Studio debs to the same standard as Vscode's devs, why can't studio devs optimize the hell of of c#?
glider97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:04 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
First of all, VS Code is open source - on top of being extremely well-managed. Secondly, as I've mentioned before, their goals of text editors and IDEs are different so we'll basically be comparing apples and oranges.
conancat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:20 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
very. VS Code is usually for higher-level languages like JS or Python, while VS is usually for lower-level languages and projects like C# or Dotnet. lots of compiler and runtime and debuggers to load. VS users don't do console.log debugging like us plebs.
kabrandon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:47 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Been a while since I've used an actual IDE I suppose. But VSCode has a debugging feature which I've neglected to use since I usually just run a
docker buildanddocker runwhich runs my unit tests, compiles my Go files into a binary, and then allows me to test the functionality from my browser (designing webapps for work mostly.)BobDogGo ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 20:30:05 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't care if VS is already running either. We're going to get a whole new instance fired up.
Michaelmrose ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:03:33 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Can't it open another window with the existing instance or is that not a thing?
JBatjj ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:57:16 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Mine just opens a new tab...
Varelze ยท 331 points ยท Posted at 19:38:05 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I associate everyting with a .bat file that either sends it to visual studio if it's running or opens it in notepad:
randomuser8765 ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 20:24:29 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Replace notepad with any other text editor (NP++, Sublime Text, Atom, VSCode, vim, emacs, or whatever else you might prefer) and this will be acceptable.
g27radio ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:08:58 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
.xml, .config, .log, and .bat should always open Notepad++ (or one of those other editors)
Edit: "always" is probably not the right word and I'll get beat up for it, but more to the point, this meme is accurate. I mean correct. Fuck it, gonna get beat up anyway.
8lbIceBag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:01:46 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck? Are implying that it should NOT Always be opened in notepad++? Think we gotta teach you a lesson!
You also forgot: hosts, .json, .ini, and 'new (some number)'.
phoenix_sk ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 20:49:47 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
But.... why??
Varelze ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 20:52:21 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
BC Windows is a dummy and doesn't check if visual studio is already open, so when you associate a file type directly it opens a new visual studio.
Amasteas ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 21:39:12 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Am I the only person who opens files by right clicking then using 'open with'
Genesis2001 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:50:12 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely not the only person; I do this too. I'll usually Right click > open with > Other program and find NP++ and reassociate the file if I know it's a text-based file.
sinkwiththeship ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:44:31 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's nice that NP++ usually just shows up as an option before having to go the "Open With." I use Sublime and wish it would just show up after a right click.
mathmuser ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:16:19 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
when installing sublime 3 there's actually a way to get "Open with sublime text" as an option in the right click dropdown.
sinkwiththeship ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:08 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Guess I should reinstall.
Genesis2001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The downside is this doesn't let you set Windows' file associations, sadly. :(
biscutnotcrumpet ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:58:21 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Either this or explicitly open the program I want first then drag the file into it.
phoenix_sk ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 21:02:15 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Irl, That is not problem of windows but VS how is responding for api call.
But Enlight me, how VS should react to request for opening file which is not part of project? Itโs NOT file editor. Itโs IDE. Everything in one window is related to that particular project so current behavior is correct.
st_bf ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:15:40 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why open XML with VS although there are clearly better defaults?
Whatever sets the file type association is at fault.
numerousblocks ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:55:52 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's the VS installer prolly
conancat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:32:52 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
me: i need a knife
vscode: here's a knife
vs: please wait while i put together the whole fucking kitchen next to you right now. please wait while i look for something that resembles a knife in your new popup kitchen. here's are 26 different knives available in your kitchen, which knife would you like to use? please wait while I rearrange the kitchen's layout according to your knife selection.
Varelze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:01:42 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I would just love an option for visual studio react by opening a file using the command line arguments I'm sending it in my batch file, specifically /edit (file). Just my preference that if I already have it open I'd like to just edit a file using it rather than opening a whole new IDE instance. I have visual studio open all day and I use VSVim, so its pretty much my everything editor.
FridgesArePeopleToo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:22:39 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
accidentally opens .bat file in visual studio
PaulRyansGymBuddy ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:36:12 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I graduated in computer engineering and not once were batch files ever mentioned.
TarmacFFS ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:08:27 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
The syntax is something only its creator can love, but they're useful. You can use bash scripts in Windows 10 by installing the Ubuntu subsystem though.
Nolzi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:20:59 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
better use Powershell instead
sunzoo ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:03:50 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Power shell execution policies is such a PITA.
Nolzi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:18 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
sunzoo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:33:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is getting someone else to do that. I end up having the script then a bat that calls the script w/ the execution policy set. Life is hard.
diet-Coke-or-kill-me ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:34 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting! What kinds of limitations are there? I always mean to learn how bash works, but I'm always on Windows environments. Would be awesome learn without having to run Linux.
ThePoultryWhisperer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:29 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs like this:
Anything you want to do in batch or ps scripts can be done in bash. The difference is it takes about 5% of the effort and it will continue to work forever.
imperiusdamian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:57:27 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Whippersnapper!
Clairvoyant_Potato ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:52:07 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You're willing to write and use a batch file to do this, but you choose the default notepad application to open things? Not a text editor like sublime or even notepad++ if you really want the lightning fast opening?
wat
ProfessorFakas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:40 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Great idea. Saving this.
runningoec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:59 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You're brilliant, I could apply this to so many things in my day to day! Thank you!
AlphaWhelp ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 20:12:22 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/03/13/the-unexpected-default-program/
bawaaal ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:09:04 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
omg, the comic was posted in 2014
TheHerndog ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 19:43:08 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is the stuff that keeps me subscribed
PgSuper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:33:01 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ikr, I can relate so deeply to this post
bigmac_nopickles ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 20:24:44 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason package.json defaults to Xcode for me :( rip
danopia ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 21:19:39 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The easiest way to win is never agreeing to the xcode terms. When it pops up asking if I agree, I hit decline and it gets out of my sight immediately
AFRUITPIE ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:26:18 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Cries in iOS developer
archivedsofa ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 21:54:47 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the absolute mos crappy things about macOS.
It's possible to associate a file type with a certain software but then you install another a new app and it can freely change that. So annoying.
blehmann1 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:33:01 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Windows programs can do that too. It's just they normally ask. Plus the default file association menu in settings has been pretty easy to get to since Windows 8, so you can normally change it back.
xxfay6 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:22:44 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Disagree, having the new default programs be some obtuse categories and tons of whitespace makes them harder to navigate, this is one of the few things that I never liked when it was changed.
Although I do like how it asks when there's a new default, instead of just setting it.
blehmann1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:31:57 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it got worse for default programs in general, especially default browser and mail client, but I think the file association was one of the few upgrades that win 8+ has over win 7, especially given how poor the rest of the settings menu is
therearesomewhocallm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:03 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Programs can't change things like the default web browser any more. If feels like Windows is moving away from allowing people ways to do this that aren't explicit to the user.
1MillionMonkeys ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:39:36 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the next update will make the OS ask permission for that. Someone just needs to figure out a way to exploit this to force them to act.
AegisToast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:04 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Also, Markdown files. I try to open a Readme and have to frantically cancel Xcode before it starts installing updates. For the love of all that is holy, just open it in VSCode. I even have it open already. Iโd even accept TextEditor or freaking Notes.
Menblock ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 21:39:43 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I just hard rebooted my pc today because Wine had made an association with .xml files. I clicked on the file, and then Wine started to boot Internet Explorer. Couldn't abort, so I had to kill the system. Pure trauma.
douira ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:17:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
that's just the worst, an emulated OS starts just to open a stupid xml file. Edit: TIL wine is not an emulator
hibernating_brain ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:39:23 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait you don't spin off a new instance on AWS to open .txt files?
echo_drops ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:32:46 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
But.....but....wine is not an emulator
sorry
douira ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:46:50 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
\t e l l m e m o r e*)
echo_drops ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:10 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The name is a recursive acronym: Wine Is Not an Emulator. My understanding is that it works as an intermediary between the kernel and Windows executables, re-mapping system calls to their posix equivalents.
douira ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:15 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
cool. TIL
I never used wine really so this is new. interesting concept.
ericonr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:55 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's a bit weird. I don't get why Wine associates itself with half the mime types. Even stuff like PDFs, when I have a perfectly good PDF reader like Okular.
But such is life ๐คท
ManIkWeet ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 21:44:19 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes the piece of software that can only make other apps perform, but never itself
flexibledoorstop ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:44:56 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a story the GNU Foundation would tell you.
dedzip ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:16:36 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just put it into itself
velrak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:10:31 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
infinite performances with this one simple trick! developers hate him!
8lbIceBag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:29 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever tried cloning the roslyn project (vs studio backend) and opening it in vs studio, you'll find this to be really accurate.
Mitoni ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:01:17 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I open all text, xml, json, sql, dockerfile, yml, and similar in VSCode. Visual studio is for opening projects, solutions, and nothing else.
Noobtber ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:24:55 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
All praise VSCode
AmericanFromAsia ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:17:42 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
VS Code is like VLC for text files
spacesleep ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:24:24 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
No that's np++. Vscode is the daum potplayer of text files
notpregnantcantjuggl ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:03:02 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
what does that mean?
SingularReza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:54:00 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
VLC works for everything but not really the best. Potplayer can play everything as well and plays them better
spacesleep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:09 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
VLC is pretty amazing in a pinch and does everything decently.
Potplayer does everything I need and a way nicer interface, with the trade-of of being a bit more resource heavy.
fukalufaluckagus ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:08:37 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I try to open id_rsa.pub and fucking Microsoft Publisher loads up and gets confused
EdgarVerona ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:28:32 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a closely related story from about five years ago. At my work, I deal with obnoxiously large JSON files. There was one in particular - it's contents automatically generated as part of the output of a much larger set of data - that was somewhere around 200mb.
I opened it in Notepad++ to look something up, as we didn't have much in the way of toolsets abstracting this data at the time. Somehow I accidentally hit a shortcut that caused the current document to "print now". There was no UI indicator that I'd done this, no notification - just a very long pause in the UI. I didn't think much of it.
Two days later, someone in IT came by with a stack of at least a thousand sheets of paper. "This yours? It only stopped because the printer ran out of paper."
Niyok ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:01:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
There needs to be some kind of stop confirmation on large print jobs like this. I've done something similar as well. Printed an executable across 200 pages full of random garbage. Panicked and ran to the printer. Staff at the time couldn't stop it coming through.
Naoik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:29 on November 5, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Username bros
VID44R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:32 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Couldnt one cancel it in the Spoolsv? On Windows at least.
Naoik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:52:59 on November 5, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse my meaningless question but did that happend while you in bungie ?
EdgarVerona ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:05:33 on November 5, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, yes it did!
If you use the API, you may know that the Item definitions are particularly large: and back in D1, they had reached hundreds of MB in size. Sure enough, I printed out those item definitions. Whoops.
CountQuackula ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 21:31:56 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Change "Visual Studio" to "XCode" and you've got mac dev in a nutshell
savageronald ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:37 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I felt this in my soul.
The_Baked_Buddha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:06 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
VSCode is available on mac now and I love it
DetroitPeopleMover ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:39:57 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
VSCode has been available on Mac since the beginning. Maybe youโre referring to Visual Studio for Mac?
ToasterBotnet ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:44:32 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I like how software like IDEs has become so bloated that we talk about it no longer as just "opening" but as "booting up" and no one even questions it.
Totoze ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:37:57 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
On my machine it takes around one and a half seconds at most. All I'm using is a 4 core Intel cpu and a normal sumsung SSD. I think you can't call it a lightweight program but it's really nothing special in terms of loading time.
Maybe for some people on low end laptops opening visual studio is a big deal
your-robot-overlord ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:37:18 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I love accidentally opening some other program I never use and it has to take five years to awaken from the depths of Hell only for me to immediately kill it
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:48 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Overlord on deck! Atten-tion!
your-robot-overlord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:23 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This one knows
OwnStorm ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 20:19:29 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Life tip: Set every code file default to Notepad++ , don't forget dark theme.
NatoBoram ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 21:35:27 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
atimholt ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 21:53:29 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
(Though I am thinking about checking out Kakoune.)
ProgramTheWorld ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:37:11 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
TimVdEynde ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:29:40 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY. For real, I literally only open code using
vim filenameor even plainvim, then navigating to the file from there.folkrav ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:53:59 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I get where you come from and that's exactly how I work, but let's not pretend everyone loves the CLI. I don't understand it, but it's true.
ericonr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:53 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Emacs can work as a GUI application, allows you to navigate to whichever file you want, and can be configured to work as a proper text editor with Evil Mode. You don't have to love the CLI to have proper editors.
Though even when I used sublime I constantly used
sublto open stuff on the CLI.folkrav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:14 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
"Proper" editors being?
ThePoultryWhisperer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:10 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Some people also like to shake babies. Those are probably the same people.
Badya122 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:03:19 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is the correct answer. You win 10 internets
lkraider ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:07:57 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hah, win 10
MagneticTeeth ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:00:50 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
:wq
fortniteinfinitedab ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:43:45 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ok now do emacs
ericonr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:14:34 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
C-x C-cor
:wqfor the Evil users.fortniteinfinitedab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:14 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh you calling spacemacs users evil??!
ericonr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:06:28 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Vim keybindings on Emacs are provided by Evil Mode :)
AmericanFromAsia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:16:42 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
:x
ThePoultryWhisperer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:41 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
wq annoys me to no end. x is obviously the way to go.
AmericanFromAsia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:39 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i have no idea what's going on in my mechanics of programming class but i sometimes see my professor use :wq and i just bask in knowing i have superior knowledge of :x
JohnLocksTheKey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:29 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
ALL GLORY TO THE
HYPNOTOADVIM!gambit700 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:50 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Must I bust out Pico?
glider97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
cries in ST
zensational ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:43:01 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Notepad++ is really good for reading log files.
NatoBoram ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:45:21 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
True, but it's also not on Linux, where the most useful log files are in the first place.
zensational ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:50:54 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity, if you had an extremely large log file and wanted to efficiently open, read and regex it, what would you use on Linux? I'm in the habit of importing logs to my desktop, which happens to be a Windows machine, so I haven't really had to worry about it.
NatoBoram ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:41 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Efficiently? I'd learn some command line, probably. If I have all the time in the world and a graphical interface, then VSCode can regex search in large files but might take some time to colorize the file, if it decides to colorize it.
Otherwise, some Google search, a cheat sheet, and an hour later, I should have a solution that's easily reproducible to save time later.
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/using-grep-regular-expressions-to-search-for-text-patterns-in-linux
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=IBM.output-colorizer
zensational ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:51 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I could open the file, find what to filter out, egrep - v and pipe to a new file to reduce the number of lines. But Notepad++ can do all of that without much overhead. I've never seen a better solution for log files outside a dedicated DBMS.
8lbIceBag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:34 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's one thing lacking with vscode though. It's search regex engine sucks and is extremely limited.
I can't find an extension either. Often I just launch notepad++ and use find in files.
JoeScotterpuss ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:11:13 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Where would society be without Notepad++?
PyroKnight ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:26:55 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Notepad.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:44:23 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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AwesomelyHumble ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:06:19 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Textpad?
JoeScotterpuss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:56 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that makes sense.
Iohet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:09:26 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Notepad++ with the XML Tools plugin, mind you
Totoze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:26 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or VScode
nomnaut ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:41:47 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
A mistake you only make once.
randomuser8765 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 20:28:22 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... Anyone who makes this mistake more twice, let alone dozens of times, must be really dumb!
cries in stupid
ThePoultryWhisperer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:07 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lol for real. Classic.
stangytangy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:09:14 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
each day
ampdecay ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:34:04 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
yo legit, I've had notepad++ crash opening huge XML files but VS handles them with ease.
dirtyhappythoughts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And it has good auto-formatting, unlike most editors. Overkill as it is, I use VS to debug XML.
ampdecay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:47 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
thank you, haters in here never had to open a 30mb XML in notepad++. and like you said formatting.
dirtyhappythoughts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:49 on October 31, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or never had to generate XML files (the superior data serialization in advanced scenario's) and debug the output.
Flannel_Man_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:17:16 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I havenโt laughed like that at a reddit post in a while. For Mac users, itโs xcode.
enderstenders ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:09:59 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Screw those bloated IDEs. Sublime Text ftw
heywoodJablomey_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:09:48 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I set notepad++ as the default for pretty much everything on my pc
ScienceThrowinMonkey ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:24:25 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And not a recent VS either, but that copy of VS 2005 that gets installed because of that one application no one should waste time updating but is critical it keeps working.
mcgee-zax ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:26:22 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
have you guys experienced the 'feature' where WIN10 will revert all your associations the minute a selected program fails to open a file? Like say you have PHotoshop set to open jpgs, gifs etc, if for any reason that fails it will revert all to defaults
Niyok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still on win7. I keep seeing things like this, and I think I'll never upgrade. More cons than pros.
ampdecay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:48 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
good luck keeping your system protected when win 7 has known security exploits that Microsoft said will not fix.
at least you still don't use XP, fuck those people are the worst
loofy2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:25:17 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
vscode on macos is very light. Itโs comparable to Sublime or Notepad++. Not sure about intellisense tho
NoahJelen ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:46:30 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Laughs in vim
be_the_spoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:15 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This scenario is literally why I started using vim. Started learning it while waiting for VS to start. Now I live in Vim, and VS very rarely gets launched for debugging.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:28 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Almost as bad as hitting steam big picture mode
SlinkyAvenger ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:33:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
As well as XCode for us Mac devs!
MrMcKizzle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:38 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
At least it isn't xCode.
MonsterSphaget ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:57:30 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lol imagine coding on windows
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ThePoultryWhisperer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:59:45 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I learned in Windows. Then I got snarky and only coded in Linux for a few years. Now I do both and I hate the toolchains equally. The only thing worse is osx. Iโd rather program on my TI-89 than in osx.
minsin56 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:13 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
ALL HAIL THE WINDOW OPENERS
DannyGamerDude ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:01:57 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's when you quickly open up task manager to make it stop.
Enklave ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:25:22 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
r/TheStopGitl
Bioniclegenius ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:33:05 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you manually change the link to a different subreddit? If you just type something like "r/TheStopGirl", Reddit will automatically link it. You don't need to manually do it, and in fact if it's the same place Reddit won't count it.
Tyfyter2002 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:27 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
r/BeCarefulWhenOpeningSubLinks
Bioniclegenius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:31 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
r/TwentyCharacterLimit
grungies1138 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:45:01 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Still better than it causing Internet Explorer
Tyfyter2002 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:34:38 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent phrasing for opening IE.
Not "opening", not even "booting up", causing.
NatoBoram ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:34:14 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's what you get for developing on Windows! >:)
Tyfyter2002 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:20 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I use Windows because outdated Macs cost about 3x as much as my PC did, and because it's not like a Linux user is going to use something they didn't make anyway.
NatoBoram ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I certainly didn't make Linux and I'm using it!
minsin56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:32 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i only use windows because i don't like the ui of linux and mac
robinkooli ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:14:03 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
UI of what Linux DE?
minsin56 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:55 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
most of the linux versions im not sure if it's because ive been using windows since i first used a pc or if it's just me
robinkooli ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:46:48 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Linux is a kernel like the Windows NT kernel. You probably have used Ubuntu, a Linux distribution.
Here is photos of different distributions and their desktop enviroment software:
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:01:00 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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minsin56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:18 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i forgot to add i can't play alot of games when i get bored
LoadInSubduedLight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:14 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Cries in Xcode
hobk1ard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:36 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Alternatively, I can't count the number of times I have right clicked word/pdf documents and opened them in notepad++.
HowIsntBabbyFormed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:27 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Recently had a
.tsvideo file... No visual studio code, that's not a typescript file.SmashBusters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:06 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For a second I was like "Man I'm not sure I remember this line - is it from The Hobbit?"
Then my brain started working and I did a forehead whap.
It's likely from after Pippin checks out the Palantir.
ender89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:44 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Associate everything with vs code (or a similar light ide/text editor) and rely on project files to open things in your real ide. That way you don't end up launching something that will crash when trying to open up a 9gb csv file.
Tyfyter2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I just open projects from whatever IDE I use for the language (usually VS or IDEA)
disbelivehomosapiens ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:07 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
XCode with JSON is also horrible
carcigenicate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:34 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The struggle is real. I have a weak SP4 (M3 processor, 4GB of memory), and if I accidentally open some Goliath of an IDE like IntelliJ or VS, trying to open even the task manager often causes the whole thing to seize up.
jstyler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well go get a blood test and supplement accordingly
fozzie33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:20 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same with a .sql file in a txt editor and sql server management studio opens
lizardturtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:32 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is when you recline your seat, sip your drink, and maybe secure a 15 minute power nap.
CreamliumPrices ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:02 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Me opening a 1.5 gb csv somehow thinking it will help me
Edit: nvam sorry I was thinking of VS code
jstyler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:08 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle didnโt fire you your quit
Ildigrub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:57 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
They're trying to make us use visual studio for our HTML/JS class in college and I've been as resistant as possible in sticking with notepad++ as long as I can
DigitalCrazy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:12:51 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I was just now trying to open a json file and Xcode started booting up.
bside85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:10 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Never double click an. Xml
PinkPoppies4171 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:28 on October 31, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Laughs in visual studio code
Guy1524 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:32 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Visual ๐ Studio ๐ Code ๐ has ๐ replaced ๐ Visual ๐ Studio
ampdecay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
no
Sam1256734 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:07 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
See also https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/content/problem/26397/disable-context-menu-for-open-in-visual-studio.html
BorjeoVonDingle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:06 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The struggle is real.
fraxybobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:15 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What year is that from?
battlet0adz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:57 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I always right-click and Open with... Notepad++
oklujay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:40 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fans spinning up...
TigreDeLosLlanos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:34 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Set every single file extendion to open with your favourite text editor.
jstyler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:10 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, stop trying to find anything sugar-based.
thelehmanlip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:15 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Protip- make a hotkey to kill devenv.exe
IBJON ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:38 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's almost as bad as windows deciding Word is the absolute best choice to open html files
foobarfault ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:37 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
...Clicking? What's that?
lefl28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:23 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine using Visual Studio
This post was brought to you by the glorious vim gang
postmodest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:38 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For those on MacOS: *double clicks on .md file*
Golden_Lynel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:51 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
laughs in NVMe
Same-Soup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:16 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
And you can set any other custom associations there with ease. Just for those who care to do it. And this is in Win10.
BlaCoiso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:12 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You can also use the assoc and ftype commands instead of directly modifying the registry
SkyBlueDaPon3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:09 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao, you havent seen shit. I installed wine and literally every file's default application in including PNGS AND TEXT FILES BECAME WINE
and wine constantly tries to install gecko or configure shit on startup that i cannot stop without using htop
nahidtislam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:46 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
itโs easy!
chibiace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:26 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
sudo reboot
snarfy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:41 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I always assume file associations are broken and never double click anything. Right click -> Edit with Vim
ponyboy3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:51 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
same as mac os and xcode
boognishbeliever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:04 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Doesnโt anyone in this thread know about โforce quitโ?
Elder_Joker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:18 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking AutoCad man...
montezuma909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:40 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Finally a quality post!
FraudGuarantee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:28 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
File associations. lol
The world still has not caught up to the Amiga.
alakani ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:58 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, or even worse, opening something starts booting a VMware box. Fuck apps that automatically associate themselves with random filetypes. This is why I never reinstall a machine after I get my environment set up :P
jstyler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:04 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Clear your inventory to get a perfect result ;)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:11 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Out Of Memory error, system rebooting.
W1nterKn1ght ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:32 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I had to install ProjectLibre for a class on my work laptop. It automatically associated XML with itself. Does this program really think that any xml file should be used with ProjectLibre? Pissed me off.
clubby789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:55 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Meanwhile visual studio code boots and you donโt notice for half an hour
second_to_fun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:38 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to open an STL in Cura and having it open in Solidworks instead
GET_OUT_OF_MY_HEAD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:46 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When in doubt, set it to open in Notepad. Works for most file extensions.
eGORapTure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:52 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I always right click > open with everything.
agentrsdg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:24 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Is this some HDD joke I am too SSD to understand?
rrjamal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:13 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
My fucking JSON files keep opening in VS.
I so rarely have to open them that I never bother changing the file association. I keep telling myself I'll just do it next time.
Skyrmir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:05 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno what microsoft thinks a .Def file is, but none of the ones on my hard drive are them. And damnit I'm getting tired of closing studio every time I open one of our proprietary .def files.
ZestyPepperoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:55 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Vscode is super lightweight and awesome if you don't need a form editor
gHHqdm5a4UySnUFM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:04 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
VS Code has been awesome for a good while now. Itโs frustrating when I have to go back to the ghetto that is Visual Studio.
namelesshonor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I use visual studio code for most projects now because it's so fast
WCzar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:53 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I associate everything with Notepad++
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:24 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I associate You with good feelings
WCzar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:22:02 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is a very nice random thing and I now associate you with good feelings!
plantmaterial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:44 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
>not opening the xml in vim
KraZhtest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:46 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This was a nice journey, but as usual, i am back with Geany.
DoctorWaluigiTime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Everything is assigned to Notepad++.
KraZhtest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:39 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Never trust Microsoft
Tymonr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:18 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Thats why you shouldn't install it in first place
jstyler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:38 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Friendly fire is always tragic for everyone.
ScottGaming007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
vim ftw
makanar56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:08 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
laughs in gaming pc
mpete98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:14 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
noob question, how can I change the default program for files in Win10? Like opening .txt in Notepad++ instead of Notepad.
๐๏ธ ClysmiC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:12 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Right click a text file -> Open with -> Choose Default Program...
mpete98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:53 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
oh wow, I feel dumb for not seeing that before. Thanks, friend!
blue_paprika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:21 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
laughs in monstrous desktop
Teknoman117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:42 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
laughs in linux
blue_paprika ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:42:05 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
laughs in both
Teknoman117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:57 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
laughs in agreement
vivek_kumar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:51 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or worst in my case internet explorer...
bugurlu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:52 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Use Total Commander and press F3 to view / F4 for notepad (or whatever you set it up to open for editing)
pphhaazzee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:42 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
indeed
guky667 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:54 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
hah, just happened today, accidentally opened a config .json of a few mere lines and it took SO LONG
noXi0uz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:05 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I open my xml files with Android Studio
irodoku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
[opens a sav file]
fucking gta 5 start loading
Random_Deslime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:20 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I only code in Notepad
Knudsenmarlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:28 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You have messed with the ancient gods. You must pay the price
Palmario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:31 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same with Xcode.
PojntFX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:32 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Use Linux.
madjarov42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:51 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is the sub that gives me the most lolz
CeeMX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:29 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse, XML is default associated with Internet Explorer, so your computer gets cancer every time you click a XML
phunkygeeza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:13 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
If I could Upvote this twice I would.
I have the time, I'm waiting for VS too.
VincentVancalbergh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:45 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Hey now. VS2019 is pretty snappy. And not just compared to previous versions.
ufoludek_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:16 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Laughs in VIM.
iillegally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:07 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Start task manager -> kill proccess
ScaredyCatUK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:35 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
...."and Visual Studio starts booting up" .. WTAF
crimson_med ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:43 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
When XCODE associated json files to itself....
pgkk17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:44 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
FLEX
brace1101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:17 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same for Xcode on a Mac
EvgAta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:10 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm UsInG vIm
JiveTrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:14 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Visual studio is comparatively lightweight.. Try accidentally opening Android Studio and kick off a Gradle sync.. I swear Google has hidden a cryptominer in there, and that's how they make their money.
SomeMagicHappens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:03 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer this over the XML opening in IE for some reason. Ew.
egoego2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:33 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I don't double click on files anymore. Right click -> open with...
I use too many different applications for the same file formats to have a reliable default.
FriendlyJordy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:21 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Question: I'm not a programmer, but how can I find where a resource points to in an xml file if it's not a path or a url?
For example, I want to know where a line called:
Goes. Any possible options?
justin2taylor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:04 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing!!! ๐ญ
modaareabsolutelygay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:48 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This is me in Unity though
e-moil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:27 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or worse: android studio.
timeslider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:26 on November 2, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I've recently learned on Windows 10, if you right click the app icon in the task bar and click close, it'll close the app immediately before it finishes loading
SU-MOVIE-SCRIPT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:47 on November 17, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Like
asiyehh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:32 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or Xcode or SSMS starts
Lobanium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:53 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Who says "booting up" when taking about applications?
๐๏ธ ClysmiC ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:04:29 on October 30, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Some applications take long enough to load to warrant the term.
atimholt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:51:34 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
(Windows) ctrl-shift-esc, click the process, click โend taskโ.
morb6699 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:09 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
That's if and when you manage to get task manager to open.
You'll be crawling begging with each jerky motion of the mouse that the kill dialog pops up soon as you take off towards the moon.
jlamothe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:29:18 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't used Visual Studio in many years. I had an old job that forced it on me. This subreddit gives me zero reason to start. I don't even know if they make it for my OS.
shadow--guardian ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:09 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Or even worse, it opens up Xcode
szsleepy ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:13:52 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just putting this out there, but, you're a fucking moron if you think VS is bad.
Michaelmrose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:54 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Next time you feel the need to put something out there consider shutting up.
dedzip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:03 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Nah it just takes a lot more system resources than notepad, making it annoying to close of you didnโt intend to use it.
szsleepy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:42 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Because using notepad for XML is perfectly acceptable. Fucking seriously, mate.
imperiusdamian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:55:44 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Notepad++ is fine for XML.
Iohet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:42 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Only if the file is saved with the formatting. A lot of autogenerated XML is inline, no line breaks, no tabs. Notepad++ with XML Tools allows you to reformat the file with the appropriate line breaks and tabs in one click
Snow88 ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 19:31:37 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What so you have to wait like 2-3 seconds?
skygrinder89 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:45:05 on October 29, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Visual Studio, not VSCode.