That's not really a Japanese character. It's not in most fonts, it's not in pre-Unicode Japanese encodings, it's not a character that Japanese people learn, it's not on the official list of kanji allowed in names, it's not part of the Japan Kanji Aptitude Test (which at its highest level even highly educated Japanese people can rarely pass). You'll only find it in Chinese character dictionaries that list obscure characters not used in Japan.
That's... one way to put it. I would say it's more like รง (for English speakers), if that. Though even that is used in some English loan words (e.g. faรงade), while Japanese doesn't really work like that. Maybe a Greek letter like ฮพ would be closer to the idea, though those are used in science...
Asquil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:36:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
รก รฉ รญ รณ รณ รถ ล รบ รผ ลฑ?
denshi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:19:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying it's Engrish?
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:38:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why, but I feel like I can trust you.
Old thread, but saying that means 20 is a joke, since ๅ means ten
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 20:28:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dumped it into google translate and it said "ไน ไน ไน ไน ไน ๅ ๅ ๅ ๅ ๅ ๅ" was the english translation so i think it just got Thicc-er
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:42:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might look Chinese (not Chinese, but some of the characters do exist in Chinese), but never Mandarin. Mandarin is the official dialect of Chinese in PRC. The written system it uses is Chinese.
shippai ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:01:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bunch of characters chosen only for their shape that make no sense when put together. A few of those are radicals or unusual characters for verbs like flying hastily or entrusting something to someone, and there's one that's a measuring unit (the shaku ๅฐบ).
Alright, I'll try to give a serious answer. First off, as someone else mentioned already, Mandarin is a spoken dialect, and Chinese is the written language. Kinda how you'd distinguish Cyrillic (written) from Russian (spoken), for instance.
Anyway, I'm sorry to disappoint, but ไนไนTๅฐบๅ ไธ ๅlๅธๅ doesn't actually really mean anything. It's just a slew of archaic words and what appears to be Bopomofo.
I mean, you could look up each letter in a dictionary, and you'll get a meaning and pronunciation, but putting all of the meanings together would still result in gibberish ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
As said, it's Japanese. Make sense that it looks like Mandarine because the characters are Kanji, which originate from China.
Now the problem is that each Kanji can have several pronunciations (also, I just started learning Japanese so I don't know any of the pronunciations)
Finally, this is just Kanji, Japanese also uses other "alphabets" (I know they aren't alphabets technically but lets not make this any more complex). You'd use them for several reasons, but what's noticable here is that they'd be used to let you know which word is the subject and other grammatically usefulness. Not seeing those other alphabets also makes it look more like Mandarin.
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[deleted] ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 17:56:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh God I don't even know when it started. I was a server side guy, thick clients,that sort of things . And at first, it.. It was just a little bit, you know. I mean who hasn't done a little bit right? It was no big deal, some onclick events back in the day.. Every body was doing it. But then there was ajax and all this other stuff.. It just seemed so exciting.. an.. and everybody else was doing it. And it was greenfield mostly so I told myself it'd be okay. But then the day came, I learned about 'this' and prototypical inheritance.. and.. Oh God, what have I done..I learned about truthy falsely but I just kept doing it anyway. Told myself it was okay because there was linters and a build chain and I was using TypeScript so it wasn't really the same. Oh God what have I become I don't even know how I can stop. It's like every day I'm writing some new line of js. I've used the node repl and I liked it. IT'S SINGLE THREADED! There's no hope for me, just use my story as a warning for someone who isn't as far gone.
Anyone that likes Javascript has Stockholm Syndrome. Its literally the only client-side scripting language available and it would take an inhuman industry-wide effort to eventually replace it with something else since all browsers would need to be able to interpret a new language. You people are subjected to a language monopoly and aren't even mad about it. Its sad.
As a backend developer I've laughed at you peasants for so long.
BUT THEN YOU WENT AND DECIDED YOU NEEDED SHITTY JAVASCRIPT EVERYWHERE AND MADE NODE. FUCK YOU GUYS
I equate these people that are super passionate about one language and dismissive of others with middle school kids that are just getting into music and are overwhelmed by how much is out there so they google the best albums of all time and decide everything but classic rock is garbage.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
APL 4evar! everything since is garbage
reaxion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
me the .net dev: still waiting for tuples that can be deconstructed nicely.. c#8 perhaps?
me the js dev: meh, just abuse arrays and called it a day. squint and pretend its a tuple
$('h1#smallheading.bluetext.red>p').text.('<h1><span>Help me, I'm trapped in a shitty jQuery crapplication</span></h1>').show().hide().show.hide().delay(0).hide.show()
sngz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:55:03 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as someone who works on jsp Java webapp with struts 1.1 this made me laugh for a while which slowly turned into sobbing
Java came out first, and was the hot new programming language.
Mozilla needed a programming language for their Netscape browser, and decided to call it "Javascript" due to the popularity of Java, in spite of being about the exact opposite of Java as a programming language.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C and C++ are closely related (originally, C programs were also valid C++ programs).
C# is completely unrelated to those two, kind of like the Java/Javascript thing. C# was actually Microsoft's replacement for Java, when Sun took away their Java license.
I had a professor who told me when he worked in industry if he say someone put C/++ or C/C++ he would instantly put their resume to the bottom because "they obviously do not understand either language enough to know they are vastly different"
I mean, they are vastly different, but C++ is a superset of C. It's also just an industry standard to write it like that. I mean I'm smart enough to know that ethernet is definitely not "RJ45", that RJ45 is something else entirely, and that ethernet connectors are properly called 8p8c. But I wouldn't put a network engineer's resume on the bottom of the pile just because they talked about RJ45 ethernet.
That sounds like some potentially great employees lost out for some petty pedantic bullshit.
Scal3s ยท 293 points ยท Posted at 16:10:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the end those potentials lucked out, as that guy sounds like an asshole to work for.
whiznat ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:55:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. Also bet that professor routinely wrote code on the fly during lectures, none of which would actually work.
I once had a professor who would do this, although he was a nice guy. He always coded the nominal case, never even attempting to do any error detection. That's reasonable for an introductory course, but even his nominal case code didn't work. I got tired of asking "what about this?" questions during his lecture. Even his fixes still didn't work.
whiznat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's whitespace, dumbass.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:05:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because it's common doesn't mean it's necessary.
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 16:29:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C++ started out as a superset of C, but when X3J11 published the first official C standard, it had things in it that were never integrated into C++, and the gap has only become wider over time. But I agree about the stupidity of the boss.
It is not a superset of C.
You can write stuff on C that wouldn't compile on C++ or would behave differently, and C++ doesn't treat incompatibility with C as a bug (as Octave does with MATLAB, for example).
They may share a common subset, but still, there are more meaningful differences than similarities.
I also am curious about what strange edge case(s) we're referring to here. I've dropped snippets from c programs into objective c as well as c++ projects without issue.
The Linux kernel for one. Linux uses C++ protected keywords, like 'class', as variable and struct names. Of course, the Linux kernel isnt' even propper ANSI C. It will only compile with GCC.
I think there are some more esoteric options that are C only, but they're so rare that most programmers would have to look them up.
The largest difference is the mind set. C++ is meant to be object oriented. That is you have an object* that has functions you call to modify it's internal state. Python's .strip() function that removes whitespace on strings is an example. The string is an object, and .strip() is a part of that object that modifies its state.
Contrast this with C. In C, a "string" is just a character array of some length with a null terminator at the end of the string. People then call helper funcitons that operate on the data. For instance, to find the length of a C string you do strlen(aString). That function then has to go through and find the null character.
Strings are also a perfect example of why many of us who use C++ dislike C. There's a common exploit where a file stores strings as string length, then string data. If you put a null in the middle of the string data C++ and other object oriented languages either complain or treat it as just another character. C will happily silently truncate the string for you. I believe this once caused an issue with certificate validation.
* Which should be a collection of objects, not a massive mess inheriting from 50 different things at once.
Daenyth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:03 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a bad example with python as strings are immutable and .strip() returns a new object instead of mutating in place
But none of that is legal ANSI C code that won't compile in C++.
Strings are also a perfect example of why many of us who use C++ dislike C. There's a common exploit where a file stores strings as string length, then string data. If you put a null in the middle of the string data C++ and other object oriented languages either complain or treat it as just another character. C will happily silently truncate the string for you. I believe this once caused an issue with certificate validation.
That's a bug due to poorly written code. Not the fault of the language.
But none of that is legal ANSI C code that won't compile in C++
The Linux kernel using a word that's restricted in C++, but valid in ANSI C means it won't compile in C++. No ifs ands or buts about it.
That's a bug due to poorly written code. Not the fault of the language.
In practice, there are C libraries that help with this, and most (good) C uses both an array for the data, and an int to keep track of the string's size. However, C suffers from the same problem that C++ has. So much legacy code exists that depreciating the unsafe functions in the language itself just isn't a viable option.*
The point wasn't that though. The point is that the classic C model is extremely different from the C++ model. On the other hand, I'm ok with someone saying they can do both, but that's because pretty much every project and organization has their own way of coding things anyways. It doesn't matter if C++ supports all of these things. If a company wants to treat it like C with a few adons they can.
* Seriously, C++11/14 will blow your mind. Taking advantage of object life times, it's now extremely easy to create pointers with all the guarantees of Rust with almost no overhead. It's just, all of the tutorials are written for C++98...
eiusmod ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 16:28:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like some potentially great employees lost out for some petty pedantic bullshit.
In any big hiring process, potentially great candidates are missed because there's just no way to reliably filter out great choices out of ridiculously many applications.
tman152 ยท 260 points ยท Posted at 16:42:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs like that old recruiter joke:
โWhenever I get a stack of resumes, I toss half of them away because I donโt want to hire unlucky people at my companyโ
I think the classical version was "I toss 'em in the air and the ones that don't land on the table get thrown out, because I donโt want to hire unlucky people at my companyโ.
Imagining a person just throwing a huge stack of paper in the air adds some amount of delicious ridiculousness to the whole picture.
I recently started reviewing resumes at work. I had never realized how true this is. There's just not enough time to read through every resume. So sorry, guy whose resume has a blank page appended for some reason. But I'm not passing you on.
Edit: Alright, that guy's bad, but he's not nearly as bad as "guy who has a two page resume, but the second page is only one line, and that line is about volunteer work from when he was in high school 8 years ago". I'm so triggered right now.
Daenyth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:02 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The extra page thing is often recruiters fault. The resume fits neatly on one page, then the recruiter slaps a 1 inch tall logo on their copy of it pushing everything down.
That recruiter doesn't deserve whatever they're making if they're screwing up the formatting and then not even spending the fifteen seconds it takes to review and fix the formatting mistake they made in their clients' resumes.
Anyway, I don't think that's the case here as I know all of our resumes are coming straight through from university career services portals. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain none of the resumes that had those formatting issues had any sort of watermark or logos that indicate the resumes were adjusted in some way without the candidate's knowledge.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the time I'm not printing resumes, I'm just looking at a PDF. But your resume is your first (and in many cases only) chance to make an impression on your future employer. If you're not willing to go through a basic quality control check of your resume, that's a huge red flag in terms of attention to detail/professionalism. It'd be the same if there was a misspelling on the resume, which also boggles my mind.
But honestly, you just get jaded sifting through resumes super fast. I'm generally pretty positive about stuff like that, so I was worried I would be passing through too many people to the next stage. But how it breaks down is that probably 10% of the people you see are immediate standouts, 30-40% can immediately be crossed out for other reasons (for example, someone with a Chemistry degree applying to a job requiring a Mechanical Engineering degree, someone looking for an internship when we're looking for a graduate, really low GPA, no work experience at all, etc.) and then the remaining 50-60% all range from "okay" to "pretty good" but are mostly interchangeable on paper. Anything you can do to quickly pare down that group is a huge boon when you have to get through a few dozen resumes quickly.
So any sort of resume faux-pas like that, or having a badly formatted resume, or having three full pages of stuff when you don't need to (if you have a long work or academic history, sure. If you're someone graduating from college with a BS and one summer internship, you can pare down) is a really quick way to pare things down without having to hem and haw too much.
Sometimes, but not often. Most resumes I see (in my case, primarily from recently graduated engineering students, with BS or MS, in the U.S.) look something like this. If they include a list of skills and I don't see what I'm looking for, that can help me remove them. Or if they have an objective statement that clearly doesn't align with what they would be doing for our company (which happens more than it should given that our job description is pretty clear on what their work would be like).
But essentially once they get to the maybe pile you have to at least skim the entire resume. Even when they do include a summary of skills like the one I linked does on the bottom, you sometimes have to look and see how they were actually utilized. In my experience both as someone reviewing resumes and someone who was putting in resumes as a college grad myself, people are very willing to overstate their skills on their resume. This guy says he has VBA experience. Did he just write a few macros to help with his classwork? Or did he write a program for a company during an internship that does x, y, and z?
eiusmod ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but if a recruiter started doing his job reliably but inefficiently, he'd be out of job soon, so he couldn't do his job, so there's no way to do it even inefficiently.
Except for a few examples such as the ones shown above (and listed in detail in the C++ standard and in Appendix B of The C++ Programming Language (3rd Edition)), C++ is a superset of C.
derleth ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:40:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's talking about pre-C99 C. The languages have diverged since then, and will probably continue to diverge.
grepe ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:47:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cv writing and coding are two very different skills.
we recruited (and let go of) several people over the last year and i can tell you that quality of cv is really bad indicator of how good the candidates actually are. my boss understood that early on and started sending test problem to everyone who applied and read their cv only after they got back to us. we got one pretty amazing solution to a real-world machine learning problem from a girl with cv that looked like an invitation to a birthday party for five year old (including cliparts and dotted background). some very professionally looking people turned out to be total rubbish.
jamssey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:47:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pedantic it may be, but totally justified. The amount of bashing recruiters receive for not understanding tech is crazy(see OP), so it should definitely work both ways.
And also, I imagine most people who are above a certain age, would not be able to identify Pokemon by name if it fell from the sky and landed on their head.
Network Engineer here. I woukd not fault a cable or helpdesk guy for "RJ45 Ethernet", but absolutely would hold it against a network engineer candidate.
UDK450 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recently started working in a data center as student, mainly assisting in repairing nodes when they start to experience software and/or hardware issues. Took me a while to realize that Ethernet and cables with RJ45 jacks aren't synonymous. We use a few IB cables, some of which are used for Ethernet and that just blew my mind. Still not exactly sure how to properly differentiate and refer to the two.
Yeah I mean they basically are now. Someone committed an error 30 years ago and it just stuck. I don't fault people for using the new commonly used term. 90% of stores, you walk in asking for "8p8c", they'll have no idea what you're talking about.
It's like how the quadcopter people hate that their toys are now called "drones". But they are drones, now. The language has just changed.
My first programming class was intro to C++ and I was taught that C++ was like an expansion of C, and C code is a subset of C++ code. I havent touched C++ since that class years ago. Is that not correct?
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 15:55:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C++ is an expansion of C.
That being said, since it is an expansion, it has a lot more than C and you need to design programs different depending on which one you use.
C doesn't have the concept of classes for example. In C++ you would use classes very regularly, but you just can't in C. This forces you to program very differently.
Edit: Classes is just one example. They are different in other ways as well.
Sorry, C++ is not an expansion of C and is not C with Classes. It was referred as such a long time ago as it was derived of C. But these days they are very different languages. Mostly since both languages have been trying to distance themselves from each other.
It's not not correct. But from a practical standpoint, they are very different languages. The idiomatic approach to problem solving in the two languages are very different. A C++ codebase is usually looks very different from a C codebase which performs the same function.
Except for a few examples such as the ones shown above (and listed in detail in the C++ standard and in Appendix B of The C++ Programming Language (3rd Edition)), C++ is a superset of C.
Be careful, though. That part was talking about pre-C99 C. Only part of what has happened to C in the nearly two decades since then was subsequently incorporated into C++ as well.
Efful ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't C++ more commonly referred to as a superset of C? Only recently got into C++.
tombsar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:52:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is commonly referred to as being a superset, but it technically is not. Especially since the C11 and C++11 updates, there are language features in C that are not valid in C++ (and of course visa-versa).
P-01S ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 15:53:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of dumb considering it's not uncommon to list experience with both like that.
Garbaz ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 16:09:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you know C++ and C both, you wouldn't throw them together like that.
So what do you do then? "C, C++"? Is the difference between a ',' and a '/' what makes you employable?
Garbaz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you write e.g. "Java, Ruby, Python, Lisp, C/C++" I'll assume you don't know C or C++ that well. It tells me that you don't see them as separate languages, implying that you at most know either C or C++ and assume that, if necessary, you can botch something together in the other.
What if you write Java, Ruby/Python, Lisp, C, C++?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly you have to write them alphabetically. Where is ++ in the alphabet?
P-01S ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:22:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you would.
Garbaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you list the programming languages you know (e.g. "Python, Haskell, Java, C/C++") and combine C and C++ that way, you are implying that you consider them pretty much the same, which means you don't really know both.
Tynach ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:58:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A largely irrelevant point. Replace "valid" with "idiomatic," and your statement becomes very false. While technically C is almost a subset of C++, in practice they are very different languages except among terrible "C with classes" programmers. When I see "C/C++" or see one of these many commenters pointing out that C is almost a subset of C++ to justify it, I assume their C++ code looks a lot like C, and I wouldn't want to share a codebase with that person.
At least you're consistent in that. Just keep in mind how common the advice to keep things to a single page is, and consider that this is a space saving measure. There's another recruiter upthread saying the c/c++ thing doesn't bother him, but even a single line spilling over to a second page is an instant rejection.
And if he had a stack of 100 resumes, I wouldn't blame him. It's usually an excuse to not read more resumes than one has the time or patience for. I see under 10 at a time. I can afford the time to read 2 page resumes.
C/C++ is also used in job postings, and that bothers me more. I can see people using it to cater their resumes to recruiters reliant on the grep method of resume filtering, but I would ask questions.
Tynach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:40 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people who at least claim to have done console video game engine development, told me that for performance reasons it's best to treat C++ as if it were C, but use the C++-only features to make certain things much easier.
However, I have also been told the exact opposite by others with the same claim, so I don't know how valid the statement is. Still other people have said things like, "I can see how that can help with console development because it's closer to the hardware," and stuff like that.
[deleted] ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 15:58:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically it's not. Sometimes your C code won't compile in a C++ compiler. One example is the auto keyword which has different meanings in C and C++.
The fact that the C++ compiler can even compile C some of the time means that that are not "vastly different". CPP is a child of C.
I think people write c/c++ to imply that they have an historical and in-depth knowledge of C++. Unfortunately this makes actual C coders harder to find. I understand that C is more powerful/common when dealing with hardware or industrial systems, so if you are hunting a C coder, I can see how that could turn you off of a resumรฉ.
Surprisingly, or not, B programming language is not so different from A programming language.
Edit: I'm gonna go ahead and come clean on this. I didn't actually know there was an actual A programming language, I was just going for the joke and figured people are generally unimaginative with naming things. Happy accident!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there actually a well known language called A? I know Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson made B, a precursor to C, for Multics.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:26 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool, although ths language isn't called 'A' , it's called APL, for A Programming Language. In other words A here is used as a word not a letter name. Still, cool find that's still an interesting name.
Edit: Although there is apparently a language called A (without a wiki page) that descends from APL, and was later extended to A+ (which does have a wiki page mentioning this).
C++ was first implemented as a C preprocessor. Valid C code was 100% valid C++ code. Nowadays, that's of course not so true. Yes, there are significant differences now, but the languages are similar enough that they can still be significantly compared.
So yes, C++ isn't technically a superset of C. But who gives a fuck? Anybody who knows the differences between the languages knows that it's not a big deal to make that statement.
eiusmod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have also seen some C libraries that use new as a variable name in macros defined in the header file...
Garbaz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:07:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eiusmod ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:25:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how that is relevant.
What does it tell about your C++ skills if you write C++ code in a way that would be valid C code, or even resemble C code? I wouldn't want that guy to be in the same C++ project with me.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:46:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is that every competent C++ programmer can write C without any issues since you won't be able to correctly use RAI etc without properly understanding the underlying memory model in C. Also if you know modern C++ then say C++14.
eiusmod ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can write C
Correct C perhaps, but what about idiomatic C that a C programmer would actually like to see in a C project.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:56:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not, but you would have to learn a new style when you switch job anyway so I don't think that it would take long to adapt. But I definitely wouldn't hire a C++ programmer if I wanted someone to create a C project from scratch.
No, it's not, as others have pointed out. More importantly, though, they are used very differently in practice. Even 20 years ago, idiomatic C++ didn't look much like C with classes any more, and modern C++ today is probably as big a change again.
You know what's funny about that? I had a professor specifically tell me to put that down because recruiters probably don't know the difference, and you don't want your resume axed because the recruiter thinks they're the same. Like, I've had recruiters ask me if I know "oracle" or "just SQL" (what even would that be?). So now I put down, "Oracle PL/SQL", and "C/C++" because recruiters are ignorant.
The technical interview will sort out whether I need C or C++ (if the job description didn't). Which brings me to my second laugh on this topic, I almost always see job descriptions with "C/++" or some variation, not "C++" specifically.
jamssey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like your professor was a bit dramatic, and clearly that's rubbed off on you with your blanket statement that "recruiters are ignorant". Seriously? You'll find ignorant people in all professions, including yours. I've worked with some great recruiters, some really shitty ones too, but it's possible there's some out there who have a perfect understanding of what they're looking for
no surprise he no longer worked in industry. I would fire someone who played games with resumes like that.
Its a standard way of writing not a statement on semiotics and language theory.
avaxzat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:53:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C/C++ does exist, though. It's that kind of code where they #include <iostream> but use printf instead of cout and malloc instead of new. That shit is much more common than you'd fear.
Almost all C code compiles as valid CPP, CPP is a superset of C (well, no in the most strict sense, but for most practical purposes). So nothing wrong with saying C/C++.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:29:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C++ is a gargantuan beast, you could have 10 different programs all written in C++ and they could still look vastly different from each other.
My point is that if you're a C++ developer that also has C experience, it's not entirely wrong to write C/C++, and if you're a C developer that has some knowledge of C++, it's not bad to write C/C++ either.
When it comes to a language to C++, it's not like you're gonna take whatever says on the resume at face value, you're gonna have a followup interview anyway.
But idiomatic C is not a subset of idiomatic C++. "C/C++ programmers" tend to be "C with classes" programmers, and the world already has enough of them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C/C++ is not terrible. It really ought to refer to experience cross-linking C code with C++ code and working in a legacy C cross C++ environment, which is common enough that it sort of deserves the name, but if you know C++, you mostly know C.
In small or mid scale embedded projects I can't think of not getting in experience in something that can be easily called C/C++. It's kind of "C and sometimes a subset of C++ very similar to the old Google C++ standard". There's lots of projects and compilers where only that "old" way of using C++, that's not really very dissimilar to something like C with real macros and dispatch, is the only way available.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:51 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That one is a bit more valid, being that the vast majority of C is valid C++. I will say, however, that when I see that someone claims to know "C/C++", it makes me think that they know how to write C, and they will sometimes spice things up by writing the same damn code but in a .CPP file instead.
Visual J# (pronounced "jay-sharp") programming language was a transitional language for programmers of Java and Visual J++ languages, so they could use their existing knowledge and applications on .NET Framework.
J# worked with Java bytecode as well as source so it could be used to transition applications that used third-party libraries even if their original source code was unavailable. It was developed by the Hyderabad-based Microsoft India Development Center at HITEC City in India.
jack104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:02 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. C# and a little python was what we were taught in college. My first job out of school required writing some C that compiled into unmanaged DLLs for an oracle system. I thought I could just jump right in and write C after just a couple lessons online. Hah. Yea, not quite. I did circle back around and learn but it took me several books, at least 4 weeks (in my downtime at work) and a ridiculous amount of time spent trying to debug a simple doubly linked list implementation.
After getting my bearings a bit, my boss broke down and bought time with a consultant supplied by an oracle partner to come and give us the skinny on coding in this context and, especially, how to use the APIs that were proprietary to oracle but had to be used instead of the good old fashioned C ones (like free was jde_free and memcopy was jde_memcopy, etc.)
Well the fella shows up Monday morning, sets up in the conference room and fires up a ppt that had a title slide that read "C/C++ programming for JD Edwards."
My boss was more of an I.T. / Database guy but I was a programmer and I immediately asked the guy if there was. C++ compiler or set of settings that I could set up VS to use myself. I got a bit excited because I knew C++ was a bit closer to my dear C# and it supported classes and inheritance and some more native support for strings and what not.
The dude said no, the two are essentially the same and that C++ code and C code were interchangeable.
I was stymied. Not mad, I actually thought I had just misunderstood something and that this guy was going to make me look really stupid in front of my boss. I pressed him though.
I remotes into a VM that was a windows 7 image they supplied that had an exec that would take your C code and pass it to the VS2010 command line with a crazy amount of switches and params but I knew for a fact that the compiler had a switch setting for C and C code only. And I knew that .CPP files were.....well for C++ and .C for C.
I was becoming a bit more sure of myself and I wasn't trying to be a dick but if we were going to spend our precious remaining funds for the year and spend days in this hot ass conference room, I was going to have my questions answered.
So I showed him the compiler settings and the file extensions for the source and he just kinda shrugged his shoulders and appealed to my boss who tapped me on the shoulder; his way of telling me to not get ahead of myself just yet.
So he tells us that all the native C++ data types have proprietary implementations and all the needed C libs had oracle implementations that were to be used. Math.C was JDE_MATH.C and so on and so forth. Then he spent two hours going over totally legal things to do in C but not to do for this environment as they could "cause problems."
He never said what problems but, for example. No use of single line comments and all comments should be multi-like but were to never exceed 80 characters on one line.
All variables must be defined at the top of a function; native type variables before variables of structs.....no variable re-declarations in a loop.......this is just what I can remember and over the 4 hours total that morning, I sat and slowly watched my enthusiasm to finally learn an old school bad ass language like C; I was actually finding out I'd be coding in a wrapper littered memory leak mine field.
I did my best to take detailed notes and get copies of the reference material that you couldn't get for free on Oracle's forums and code samples that used as many of the quirky things he went over as I could. I realized I was fucked unless I bled every ounce of material about C-ish from this guy.
In the end, I performed updates and maintenance to existing code that we had access to but I could not get anything I tried from scratch to compile and work correctly when my boss would deploy it. Finally, I just went around them. I guessed at the password for the SA account for the SQL Server instance that bed rocked this system and I went on a tear building libraries and Wrappers and all kinds of stuff in C# to work directly with SQL Server. I got really good at writing queries and commands and I eventually went on, despite complaints and actual threats of 'voiding our support agreement with Oracle' by touching 'their database' in an unapproved fashion. I went on to actually build a middleware application to facilitate EDI between our team center system and Edwards. Despite being told I was waistline time and effort on what would be a 'sub-par' solution; I demoed it to a room full of co-workers and employees and after the demo, the manager of the consultants pulled me aside and offered me a job on the spot. No shit.
I politely declined. I'm no savant; I was just the only trained engineer working the project but I learned such a lesson at an early age; where there is a will there is a way; if you think ya can; try. You won't always be right but every now and again you might just hit a fuggin home run. That was fun.
C#/Java is largely a matter of libraries and syntax. If you knew one and we used the other I wouldn't have too many reservations about hiring you unless that was your only full language. It's not hard to cross train.
a Query Language. It's in the name. While you CAN technically use loops and logic and variables in it, you generally don't and a competent understanding of it does not require nor grant a competent understanding of programming the way learning the basics of Pascal or C or C++ gives a level of groundwork into the others because you learn the basics of programming logic.
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a "Query Language" is a kind of declarative programming language.
I mean, yes, technically. But I feel it's sort of in that "a tomato is a fruit" category of things that meet the strict requirements but you don't really fit in the category? Like, saying C++ is a superset of C. Sure, TECHNICALLY, but they've diverged significantly.
SQL isn't USED like a programming language and I feel that makes it not really one? I wouldn't call someone who only knew SQL a "programmer" the way I would someone who only knew C
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like, saying C++ is a superset of C. Sure, TECHNICALLY, but they've diverged significantly.
"C++ is a superset of C" is the opposite of something which is technically true.
SQL isn't USED like a programming language and I feel that makes it not really one?
It's primarily used by being embedded in some other language, yes. It's a domain-specific language, like regular expressions, and its execution model is declarative instead of procedural. But saying it isn't a programming language at all seems rather arbitrary.
I wouldn't call someone who only knew SQL a "programmer" the way I would someone who only knew C
That's because DBA is a separate role. That's more of an artifact of history than something set in stone.
"C++ is a superset of C" is the opposite of something which is technically true.
I have counterarguments but they're SO pedantic that even I hate myself for considering them and there are less pendantic counterarguments to them so I'm gonna drop this and say you're right.
It's primarily used by being embedded in some other language, yes. It's a domain-specific language, like regular expressions, and its execution model is declarative instead of procedural. But saying it isn't a programming language at all seems rather arbitrary.
I think of it like the whole "is cereal with milk a soup?" thing. It's very hard to define soup in a way that includes everything we think of as soup and excludes cereal but intuitively, nobody thinks cereal is a soup because we don't use it the same way we use soup. Same with tomatoes and fruits. I wouldn't consider Regular Expressions to be a programming language either (Honestly, I wouldn't consider them a language at all even to the degree SQL is, they're a tool in other languages) for pretty much the same reason. Because you don't write programs with them. I feel to be a programming language, it's primary use needs to be creating programs.
Because I don't think most people who use SQL use it as, or consider it, a programming langauge and because it doesn't use the same fundamental basis of logic as programming langauges I don't think it should be considered one for the purpose of most discussions.
derleth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this is definitely a very pedantic discussion about the definition of a term, and I'm content to leave it at that.
jocamar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A query language?
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is a kind of declarative programming language.
I'd just like to preface this by saying I did read the rest of this thread and I appreciate the fact that this was brought to a reasonable resolution, but ANSI SQL as defined in SQL-86 is defined as a query language and is not Turing complete, which is the generally accepted standard requirement to be considered a programming language. PL/SQL is a programming language, MSSQL is a programming language, hell I'm pretty sure even MySQL is Turing complete. ANSI SQL, though, is not and shouldn't be considered a programming language. Considering I don't know any modern database engines that only use base ANSI SQL the point is probably moot, but that's the only caveat I'd put on it.
derleth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:57:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. I never knew that ANSI SQL wasn't Turing complete.
However, it's possible to imagine things which are undeniably programming languages which are not Turing complete. For example, imagine a language where all programs are guaranteed to terminate: All loops are counted, and the count must be determinable at compile time, and all recursion comes with a limit to recursion depth. (That's... probably simplistic.) But the point is, all programs written in this imaginary language will provably terminate, something which is provably not true of programs written in any Turing complete language. However, we'd consider that language to be, well, a programming language, just a constrained one.
We're the kind of people who get off on weird edge cases and argue about the validity of tabs vs spaces like it's a religious war. For all the logic in our field, I would never expect casual semantics to be consistent across all people.
If it's not a documented ISO standard, it's just an opinion. ;)
derleth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's not a documented ISO standard, it's just an opinion. ;)
jack104 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:34 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man. You ain't kidding.
So the client has a job for. SQL developer using JavaScript and ASP. How familiar would you say you are with these technologies? Send me your life story, a doctored resume that mentions these buzzwords so my senior recruiter will say OK. Also, i will need your desired salary range so I can badger you and tell you why you aren't worth that much money. Also, feel free to tell your well qualified friends if you aren't available. Sincerely, name I can't pronounce from Really Rocket Sciency Think Group Sounding Firm backed up by a logo that was made in MS Paint.
Where do you even begin with that. What kind of SQL, MySQL, T-SQL, PL/SQL, another Rush Hour SQL????
It sounds like this is web dev but Good old fashioned JavaScript is a great way to spend weeks building an unmaintainable script base when you shoulda just hiked up your track shorts and let any one of 12 open source libraries do for you in 12 lines. Dammit I should have learned Angular.
And ASP. Is that classic ASP being run on an IBM 386 using Windows Bronze Age Edition and IIS v. -6? Or are we talking ASP .Net? One is VBscript that has no support libraries, no error handling, and absolutely no one wrong answer for every should be simple thing.
The other uses HTML, CSS, C# and some wacky ass Razor Scooters to tie your data to controls that will do some pretty serious heavy lifting with little coding needed. But fuck you if you think you've made it because now you have to worry about 8 different app or web configure files that will compile successfully and run in ISS Express just fine. But pick the correct publish profile of the 8 that exist and watch as your publishes fail for hours on end. Yes, you have escaped to the greener, compiled web dev promised land but you now get the never-ending pleasure of pissing your gym shorts and longing for console apps every time you change a config file and Visual Studio loses it's god damned mind. Quickly. Hit revert for the entire solution in source control. Don't be that guy who checks in the non-building build. Actually. Never check in anything; just wait until you've worked for a couple weeks committing only locally. Then do a push and keep all your changes. Fuck it, works on your machine. Then.....I.....uhh......
He's in the machine learning field. For businesses it's very much preferred not to use any own implementation but use standard libraries.
Nobody expects him to implement a machine learning model in C# or C++ but to use those languages for integrating with legacy or replacing code with implementations in the standard libraries.
kaze0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. One of my favorite movie quotes. Not because I like the thing he says originally, though. I just really appreciate the joke itself. So.. Uh.. +1 I guess because now I have a cleaner replacement. :)
It's a great joke, but would never fly in today's world. Then again, neither would an old lady saying, "up yours, nigger". Even characters intentionally written to be racist/biggotted nowadays won't use racial epithets. Exception: American History X, though that was explicitly about racism is baadd..mmmkay?.
brkello ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 14:40:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why that bugs me so much. I am fine that he put pokemon names in there, but the fact that he has something listed twice makes me think he is a bad hire.
WMZEKE ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So its not the fact that he sounds like an arrogant twerp who thinks hes smarter than some one else just because he's specialized in a different field?
Seven. Ditto, Onyx, Metapod, Feebas, Sawk, Ekans, and Vulpix.
Basic bitch only has two Pokemon from outside of the Kanto dex. What is this guy, a COOLTRAINERโ from around Celadon City? Definitely not Elite 4 material, anyway.
Also, he can only carry six of those because reasons. Better drop the Ditto off in daycare or eat the Feebas.
DuoRame ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 17:56:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx is a programming language. Onix is a pokemon.
Chevron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure he meant one of the "hadoop"s is a pokemon. It wouldn't make any sense to have meant "One of [the things in the list] is a Pokemon" responding to what he was.
And who the fuck mentions python packages in their resume? Lmfao... I mean if you have experience in python, a company would expect that you could work with pandas or flask... regardless of whether you have experience in those individually. Hella easy to pick up
I'll explain: the movie referred to in the image is Clerks...
Actually I don't have the time right now to fully explain the reference. Anyway, a woman mistakenly has sex with a dead guy in a dark bathroom, and the EMTs that arrive shortly after explain that a body can maintain an erection for hours after death.
That seems to be a trend among all project-based careers. Mom was an industrial engineer and those two things were a big part of why she quit her job to be a stay-at-home mother.
implying a recruiter doesn't indiscriminately jam hundreds of unrelated resumes down the throat of every open position he gets his hands on
senesor ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 18:35:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't. :( I delicately select the tastiest morsels of line caught candidate and serve them on a bed of background information and slightly reasonable salary. <3
lengau ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:16:43 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you recruit for my company? Our current recruiter seems intent on giving in the worst, most unqualified candidates he can find.
senesor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:35:18 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure I can! What do you want? PM me a spec and I'll give you 1 hour of free sourcing. I'll send you LinkedIn profiles of people I think look reasonable. (Unless you have a shite spec. In which case - may smooze have mercy on your souls)
I have time today, my favorite candidate is in final-final-final interview so I need to freak out all day about him.
lengau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:38 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, I don't have a say in who we use, or I'd take you up on it.
Fortunately, I'm only participating in the interviews, not actually doing the hiring.
senesor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:36:44 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be my heart being crushed by candidates who don't really love me after all. Could be my balls in a vice cuz of clients arguing about fees. Could be my lips wailing at poorly defined job specs.
Nothings worse than recruiters that spam job opportunities out without even looking at profiles, then when you apply, they say "sorry not enough experience".
Like ffs. If I'm not qualified enough by your standards, then don't fucking call me and email me about an "exciting job opportunity". Don't mislead me to believe that your opportunity is a way to get my foot in the door the.
Maybe not front and center, but you might wanna consider bringing one along every once in a while. Not all of us are one-hit wonder stuttering messes with the hygiene of a sloth.
There's almost never a time when an external client requires or wants the deep level of knowledge that developers/programmers have. Nor am I interested in someone giving away team processes casually because they're just trying to explain a concept or execution.
There are a boatload of reasons you separate your account handling from your productivity teams...whether it's Creative, R&D, or Programming. The client doesn't talk to those brains. The client talks to handlers...aka account managers.
It has nothing to do with the horrible man-baby stereotypes y'all can't shake (because they're actually really true) and has everything to do with protecting the best interests of your business.
Woah... i mean, i guess every business i've worked in the account manager has needed maybe the team tech lead to come along occasionally as back up to explain some core concepts if the client asks?
Arguably you aren't supposed to be in that position.
Without specific context my instinct is every single one of those situations involved regaining the clients trust that had been eroded from poor account handling.
No... not from a situation of regaining their trust, but because they have an interest in or want to know about the technology from the person doing it on a daily basis. They know it's not black magic
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:20:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta keep those mouth-breathers in the back room amirite
Look, let's be realistic here, not every company is a 50+ people operation with rigid lines between all departments and a beehive like caste system. When I say "bring a dev lead along", I'm not saying, that he should lead the communication, or that he should even be a major part in it, but it's always better to get the requirements straight from the horse's mouth. Not every company has the luxury of the overhead of endless back and forths between the client requirements, as communicated back by the "handler", and the dev team telling the handler that x, y and z are out of the question, to have him go back to the client and continue this game of telephone. To add to that, not all devs are made equal, there are lot of schools and programs that put just as much emphasis on the requirements gathering, planning, deployment and maintenance phases, as they do on the raw development part. A developer is not just a "requirements in - code out" machine, or at least, if you're treating them that way, they're underutilized and probably don't feel very engaged with their job.
Naw. Now you're talking about yourself from an emotional place.
Separating your productivity from your clients isn't a punishment. It's not a jerk move. It's an honest reality of how an effective business team works. You don't ask your wait staff to cook. Even in pinch because they are not chefs. You don't ask your creatives or programmers anyone outside of the account managers to handle the clients. Thats their job. Don't take someone else's skills away because you feel left out. Realign your own understanding of your responsibilities.
Big or small. Doesn't matter. Let specialists be specialists. Including account managers. They know how to do their job better than you.
Equivalently you don't want sales pretending to be a developer either. Your turf. Their turf. Same team. Same goals. Understand where a person does the best and when....but don't react like this stuff is a personal attack because it isn't.
It's my observations statements and very strong opinions based on experience with what works and what does not work. Take it or leave it.
Ran4 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:40:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Separating your productivity from your clients isn't a punishment. It's not a jerk move. It's an honest reality of how an effective business team works
Lolwat? That's... not at all how many very succesful companies work.
I mentioned this to someone else....but keeping productivity minds away from clients only partially relates to how a developer/programmer sees themselves.
It has much much more to do with what's right for the client conversation, what the client needs to hear, what the client doesn't need to learn...and what knowledge the client did and did not pay for alongside their results.
Thinking you can do a client facing role and actually having skills for speaking with clients and defining success within those conversations are entirely different things.
If someone writes clientspeak.js maybe. But then the library will be obsolete in 3 years.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:23:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I do plenty of freelance work and I meet with my own clients regularly. Works better for me because I can get a feel for what they actually want. It saves me time because I'm not guessing and trying to figure out what the client needs and it helps them get exactly what they want faster.
Sounds silly, but I have literally been asked which Excel functions I know in an interview. Not what kind of work, but exactly what functions. I eventually mentioned vlookup, which was what they wanted. Similar experience on another occasion with SAS procedures.
DeCiB3l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:36 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could understand putting "vlookup" in addition to Excel. To show that you actually can use it, rather them most people know how to type data into a cell and put Excel on there.
you're already causing error messages, why not just say that you're an Error Extraction Engineer who is qualified to remove theses errors: <big list of all the error messages you can get>
kanuut ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 15:09:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then delete the whole list halfway through the interview to show I can remove them?
I have a great story about one of those scammers.... This is a good place for it no?
An "accented" gentleman calling himself Steve calls me on my lunch break. I like messing with "the windows" when they call me or my customers, so I played along with the guy while I had a burrito, acting like I was in front of an XP machine. He sounded kind of unenthusiastic to have caught someone, so about the time he tries to make me open a remote session I start asking him personal questions.... Nothing descriptive, just asking about his week, the weather, and so on. I ask him, "you doing OK buddy? You sound like you've seen a ghost!" and he says "Yeah not really, I'm kind of sad." So i'm like, "what's up dude? Talk to me..." And before you know it he's telling me all about how his girlfriend broke up with him and he failed a test at school and is just tired of it all.
So I told him maybe he should try doing something nice for someone, maybe it would help him feel better. "Steve you're a smart guy, I'm sure you'll find someone else!"
THEN the dude starts crying, says he's really sorry about trying to trick me, and makes sure I know not to fall for it if anyone else calls.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish there were jobs that require Reddit experience or something of the like. I'm similar too.
Asnen ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 15:21:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
working on production environment
check broker see showel to another cluster
gotta find out which one
the showel goes through HAProxy
there must be some kind of config in here
found something .conf file in directory conf
by the name of certain field guess its the correct proxy direction
open your profile on linkedin
add HAProxy to competences
continue working
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
>working on production environment
>check broker see showel to another cluster
>gotta find out which one
>the showel goes through HAProxy
>there must be some kind of config in here
>found something .conf file in directory conf
>by the name of certain field guess its the correct proxy direction
>open your profile on linkedin
>add HAProxy to competences
>continue working
FTFY
Jafit ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:36:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a fair tactic since recruiters are basically playing keyword bingo, and writing job descriptions that no living human can hope to actually meet the requirements for.
If that's what you know, sure. Python definitely, and throw in some modules if that's all you got. You never know when someone actually competent will look at your profile.
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:24 on July 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the SO post:
..."So the naming committee had to get to work and we sort of liked the notion of having an inherent reference to C in there, and a little word play on C++, as you can sort of view the sharp sign as four pluses, so itโs C++++. And the musical aspect was interesting too. So C# it was, and Iโve actually been really happy with that name. Itโs served us well."
Well yes, because if you assume # and ++ are the same thing, just written out differently, you'd then go on to assume that C++ and C# are the same language.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:42:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you resize the two pluses in a certain way you can make a # out of just 2
I thought C++ was written C# when I was dating a software developer at age 19. I'd never heard of C-sharp outside a musical context and I thought it was just nerds being weird.
This is long before I knew what a programming language was.
Unity docs are much, much better than UE4. UE4 docs for c++ are awful, it's treated like a second class citizen compared to their visual programming language, blueprints. This is especially bad considering all the macros and the optional GC make UE4 c++ look markedly different from ordinary c++.
If you learn C++ by learning UE4, you're learning UE4, not C++. You probably won't know how to function without the engine. At least that's been my experience with people who've never touched C++ outside of unreal.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:07 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm familiar with C++ at a beginner to intermediate level. UE4 uses a lot of things you wouldn't learn in a classroom, but are not rare in a professional environment. For students, seriously keep out.
Tuxiak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a bit surprised by it too, because they do live streams, release guides etc., so it's not like they don't care. It's not the first time I've heard this opinion either (and I thought the same after trying it out), so I wonder why they won't prioritize it more.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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0x2F40 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:00:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unity is very popular in the "indie-sphere". UE4 is popular as well but the royalties/pricing of the two seems to attract a lot of smaller studios to Unity first.
Big AAA studios are more likely to use their own in house engine or Unreal. Not many big AAA titles use Unity.
You can tell if a lot of projects used Unity because it has a Unity feel, but there are some really high budget Unity games. Hearthstone for example.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:50:56 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unity feel is only valid if you use assets from the store or bundled in with the engine. If you script your gameplay and shaders from the ground up then there won't be any "unity feel".
This is honestly just a product of low effort indie dev and asset flip. Serious indies and bigger studios use Unity properly. If the devs hadn't said it, you would never know Hearthstone was made in Unity.
zial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:32 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hearthstone wasn't really high budget though it was made by like 15 people in the beginning. Granted it's now huge because of the success but in the beginning was very very small.
Still brewing. Their first game sucked and has terrible reviews on steam. They launched it in a bad state and abandoned it because of how unmaintainable the code was. I never saw the code and they won't show it to me for some reason, but I'm not sure how much worse than the current project it could be.
They expect to launch early access in under two months and.. I have voiced my concerns. I'm sure they will learn though. We're still young and small.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:02:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm not a developer but I heard a coworker say "I can probably do javascript, I learned some java in college and javascript is basically an easier version of java."
Had a coworker in QA tell me he's excited for me to teach him Nightwatch.js and that Javascript should come to him quickly since he "took a Java course ten years ago in college."
I am trying to get into a gifted stunners program and yesterday we answered a questionnaire. One of the questions was if you know programming and multiple answers, one of which was java. a kid asked "is java JavaScript?" To which the teacher answered "yes".
I can see I'm the odd man out here, but C# and C++ are at least both Object-Oriented languages. Using the forward slash to combine them could imply that you generally use "one or the other" which I believe is more common (and useful) with C# and C++ than with C and C++ since there's alot of overlap between them. C# is high level, c++ and C are both (by today's standards) lower level languages.
I don't know. Using the slash implies that they are pretty much the same thing. That's why it's used between C/C++, because C++ is essentially just C with classes.
It'd be even more accurate to say Java/C# than it would to say C#/C++. However, that would still be a bit weird, because C# wasn't adapted out of Java. It was created as an alternative, not an expansion. If you wanted to, you could write some C code and compile it with a C++ compiler. This is a relationship that doesn't exist between C++ and C#. Instead of the slash saying "one or the other", in my opinion it means something like "at the same time".
If you use both languages, I'd prefer that you list both of them instead of trying to combine them with a slash.
Either way, arguing about it for too long would get quite petty.
B is a programming language developed at Bell Labs circa 1969. It is the work of Ken Thompson with Dennis Ritchie.
B was derived from BCPL, and its name may be a contraction of BCPL. Thompson's coworker Dennis Ritchie speculated that the name might be based on Bon, an earlier, but unrelated, programming language that Thompson designed for use on Multics.
B was designed for recursive, non-numeric, machine independent applications, such as system and language software.
HMMMM!!!! The slash implies a "one or the other" relationship in your example! This enforces my belief that C#/C++ makes more sense than C/C++ since they are less related and more independently useful.
OK I'll get off my soapbox.
eliquy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:16:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It implies they are equivalent. Just like everyone else is saying.
Norci ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:01:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering that the lexical similarity between Spanish and Italian is estimated at 82%, I think that analogy kinda bit you in the ass.
Considering that the lexical similarity with Italian is estimated at 82%, I think that analogy bit you in the ass.
Considering that I am a native Spanish speaker, I think I am well aware of their level of similarity. What's more, I bet my choice of analogy was intentional. Think about it.
Norci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's more, I bet my choice of analogy was intentional.
Then, considering how similar they supposedly are, I don't see the issue. Btw, how's your Italian?
I can partially understand Italian and I can get an Italian to understand me. I could learn it very quickly if immersed, and would find it much easier than someone who didn't speak a Latin language.
That doesn't mean I can write in it, speak it, nor read a novel in Italian. I would not list it in my CV, and if I did I would list it separately from Spanish. Because they are different languages.
Norci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't mean I can write in it, speak it, nor read a novel in Italian. I would not list it in my CV, and if I did I would list it separately from Spanish. Because they are different languages.
Right, but I am assuming that if you write C#/C++, it means you actually know both and it's just matter of whether it makes sense to group them with a slash.
If you actually don't know one, but think you can do it just because you know the other, that's an entirely different deal.
I was of mindset we discussed first scenario, not the second.
My point is that grouping with a slash implies two extremely close variants of the same thing or one being a superset of the other.
Spanish/Castilian, Catalan/Valencian, Serbian/Croatian, Quรฉbequois/Standard French all arguably make sense. So would, as far as I know, C/C++, Python 2/3, Octave/MATLAB, HTML/XHTML etc.
Speaking for myself, if someone listed Spanish/Italian as one language they spoke in a comma separated list, I would immediately assume that they speak neither of them to a sufficient level to even tell them apart. That is not a good sign, and would not hire them for a job that required either of them.
Norci ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:52:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. No one is arguing that they are extremely different, it's just that they are different enough that it's weird and wrong to interchange them.
Like I am an illustrator and Photoshop wiz but I won't put inkscape and gimp on my resume. I could probably learn the ins and outs based on my knowledge of the former, but I'm hardly fluent with the latter
You can get a C++ compiler to correctly process (nearly) any C code, but the "styles" are totally different. I'd expect to see a lot of raw pointers and bare structs in a C program, but classes, smart_ptr, and all that jazz in C++.
Similarly, I'd imagine that a Spanish speaker could probably get their point across to an Italian, but the style would be totally bizarre.
I used to work with an Italian woman. She told me that she could usually understand most of what the Hispanic families in our store were saying, but it was like listening to an unusual dialect.
At the end of the day, if you can use one, you can probably get by with the other, but you're not going to be amazing at it, making it a very apt comparison.
The lexical similarity between Swedish and Danish is probably even higher, but you wouldn't hire someone who reports proficiency in Swedish/Danish. You'd report them to the police.
Norci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know Skรฅnska is kinda odd, but calling it Danish is bit extreme, no?
Yes but French is on the list and has 89% similarity with Italian. All three are considered "partially mutually intelligible", but being able to somewhat understand a language is not the same as speaking...especially if you're trying to get a job that requires it.
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Italian, is in fact, Spanish/Italian, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Spanish plus Italian....
Honestly, Spanish and Italian are close enough. If a speaker of one of those languages was to squint hard enough at the other, they could comprehend at least 80% of it and make informed guesses for the remaining 20%.
Unfortunately there are not that many extant languages at a similar distance from English to make a fair comparison. There's English and Scots (not to be confused with Scottish English or Scots Gaelic), but Spanish and Italian are somewhat more different.
An English speaker would probably find little difficulty in understanding the Scots Wikipedia, but wouldn't know where to start if they wanted to write or say something in Scots. Understanding spoken Scots is probably easier for English speakers who have been exposed to Scottish accents than for those who haven't. Here are two examples:
Scots (or "Lallans", a poetic spellins for lawlands) is ae Wast Germanic leid o tha Inglis varietรฌ thit's spaken en tha Lawlands an Northren Isles o Scotland an en tha stewartrรฌ o Ulster en Ireland (whaur it's kent as "Ulster-Scots", "Scotch", or "Ullans"). En maist airts, it's spaken anent tha Scots Gaelic an Inglis leids.
Pet peeve of my friend was one time when one classmate corrected his pronunciation of C++.
"You're saying it wrong, it's actually C double pluses." In the smug ass voice, my friend imitate it and it sounded like the grey pourpon sauce commercial.
My buddy wanted to punch him in the face.
UCI doesn't teach C++ as a first language (it's java), optional if you take computer graphic. Which he did and I have no fucking clue why but there are a lot of people in CS where they will lie to you about their knowledge.
I guess "C#/C++" could mean they've written something mostly in C#, but with some managed C++ mixed in... but yeah, much more likely they just don't know what they're talking about.
zyxzevn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned C and C++ from Jamsa's C/C++/C# Programmer's Bible. That ill-fated tome does not lead to C/C++/C# salvation, but instead will lead you down a dark path with no escape.
squrr1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:35 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yeah C# == C++++. Pretty much the same thing.
TK-427 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know C.{0,4}. I also know regex
b4ux1t3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be .Net.
tekanet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:07 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some says that C# is C++++ with the four + forming the #
It really depends. My first job out of college, the legacy part of the application was a C++ app but the newer apps were using C#, so on your resume you'd either put C++, C#, or maybe just C++/C# if you really needed one less space.
Why so many of these quibbling replies? They are much more alike than they are dissimilar. Plus a ton of programmers who started out with C++ migrated into C#, that's how I read it.
I got that Mokubird one right, but only because I guessed that it was a Pokemon for having 'bird' in the name. Then the next question proceeded to fuck me.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:02:05 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to look this one up. Apparently mukubird is Japanese for staravia and so is crebase for avalugg? That's some straight hot garbage bullshit, I'm fucking salty
That was kind of an unfair question. Crebasse and Mukubird are the Japanese names. The English names for those two are Avalugg and Staravia although if you don't know Pokemon it probably doesn't make much of a difference.
[deleted] ยท 283 points ยท Posted at 14:35:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crebase is the Japanese name.
mythriz ยท 426 points ยท Posted at 14:46:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I'm tempted to call this cheating, I guess this means that the test is testing your Big Data knowledge more than your Pokemon knowledge... (I know almost nothing about Big Data tbh.)
I don't know, Staravia is only Mukubird in Japanese and Mandarin. If the test is in English, the questions should probably be as well. Especially when you consider that there are a finite number of pokemon but a constantly evolving number of big data utilities.
Especially when you consider that there are a finite number of pokemon but a constantly evolving number of big data utilities.
A long time ago when I grew up, there were only 151 pokemon. Considering evolving is the signature move of Pokemon, I respectfully disagree with your assertion.
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 16:53:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially when you consider that there are a finite number of pokemon but a constantly evolving number of big data utilities.
They add ~100 more Pokemon every release, I don't think the growth rate of the total number of Pokemon is that much lower than big data companies.
KBKarma ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:45:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be specific...
There were 151 original Pokรฉmon. Gen II added exactly 100. Gen III added 135. Gen IV (the gen I really started with) added 107. Gen V added 156. Gen VI only added 72, while Gen VII only added 81. Bringing us to a grand total of 802. On average, they add ~115 Pokรฉmon per gen. Which is probably why they started introducing Mega Evolutions and formes - because if they add more Pokรฉmon, people will get too afraid to try and collect them all.
Unless they're total NEEEEEERDS.
mythriz ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:02:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh well, can't help it then, bring out the pitchforks! Who made this quiz! Is it you /u/tomthecool??
Pokemon are finite. There's 900 or so, but you can quite easily make a definitive list of all the (official) pokemon that exist at any given time. Without some degree of supernatural knowledge it is impossible to list conclusively all the big data companies in the world since they change in real time.
I don't get it. Like, you enjoyed Pokemon when it was popular and you were a kid, and then you lost interest in it. That's fine. But it makes no sense to be proud of that fact. It's like saying "I only read the first Harry Potter book. Everything after the Sorcerer's Stone is stupid. Book one master race!"
Actually if you look at the design documents, you'll see that Gen 2 is the "correct" one, since all of the original 190 Pokรฉmon are in it. Shigeki Morimoto himself confirmed that there was originally going to be 190 Pokรฉmon. But limitations meant they had to rip out several to make the games work (and come out on time). Plus the anime gave us glimpses at generation II 'mons in the first season (like Ho-Oh appearing in the very first episode, or Togepi); additionally there's conjecture that several of the plots for anime episodes were reworked to not show Gen II mons; for example EP013 "Mystery at the Lighthouse" was reworked to feature Dragonite (a giant one). With many characters calling it an "unknown" Pokรฉmon never seen before. Yeah, that was supposed to feature Lugia, not Dragonite (and the plot makes a tonne more sense with a Lugia). Fortunately, we got a movie featureing Best Burddragonwhale instead, so no real complaints from me.
I've played gen 2 and 4 games, but still I couldn't name most of the Pokemon from those sets. But I'll never forget the first 151. I think that's true for most people in their late 20s who played Pokemon as a kid. There was just such a long time when the games, the anime, the merch, the trading cards focused on just the first gen.
1sagas1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... makes sense.
I'd be willing to bet a lot of money he kissed religion goodbye either as soon as he moved out after highschool or at the latest partway through college
Yup. Am German. About 75% wrong I guess, too bad they don't show your score. Not sure if I would score better if I were native English though, I don't know anything about Pokemon ;D
Yeah that one is bullshit. If you're going to write the quiz in English, don't use the Japanese names. And especially don't mix and match Japanese and English Pokemon names.
That still implies you don't get invited by recruiters that did notice. You should try sending your resume without "uwotm8" to a control group and see if that influences the result.
To be really sure, I would have to use the same recruiters, right? A perfect experiment would erase their memory after the first time around. Unless the percentage of recruiters that would throw it out is high enough and is distributed evenly so that it can be significant in a small enough group, 10 less callbacks out of 100 with vs 100 without could be anything including random noise and the mood of the recruiter.
That sounds about right. You'd expect statistical noise to be somewhere on the order of sqrt(N) for N callbacks, unless the proportion of recruiters that you end up talking to starts to go beyond 50% or so.
metapod.io uses a programmable clear-thinking interactive matrix.
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No longer do you have to worry about cross-platform intangible standardization. metapod.io takes care of all of that.
Seeing as it's in among all the spark stuff, my first thought was "well maybe it's a spark API for awk". Then I realised how stupid that would be, but now I'm realising that calling is stupid will probably inspire some madman to make it anyway.
ahhhh yes, I remember when this Mandela Effect (onyx/onix) made me question my mental sanity
Shadax ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:04:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you fucking kidding me right now. I just looked it up and it is Onix. My first ever experience with the Mandela Effect, thanks.
I sort of had it once with Froot Loops, but I never ate fruity cereal growing up to see the box enough and remember it wasn't spelled normally. Saw it at the grocery store recently which got a "how bout that" out of me.
Howdy. So euhm ... that's me in that photo. It was taken during my PyData Berlin talk where I was explaining how I made a joke of a startup: tnaas.com. It generates pokemon sounding names for your startup using all the latest buzzwords (which we can generate for you!).
I'll mention a few things based on the comments.
That photo has been worryingly trending. Both on reddit, twitter as well as linkedin.
The number of recruiters that bother me is about the same as before.
C#/C++ is on there simply because to me these have been toy languages for unity/unreal engine. I don't work with them professionally at all but since I only play with them for random gamedev stuff I've put them together.
Yep. Hadoop is listed twice. My bad.
MrSurly ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 17:09:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C#/C++ is on there simply because to me these have been toy languages for unity/unreal engine.
Might want to re-word that to say you've been toying with them. As it is now, it implies they are "toy languages."
For some reason, the fact you've listed shiny, ggplot, dplyr etc. alongside JavaScript (and R itself) is causing me more discomfort than the inclusion of Pokรฉmon
bluaki ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:45:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vulpix can't handle that on its own, you'll need something like the FireStone library.
I've heard some people get similar results with Eviolite, but it conflicts with FireStone and I'm not sure why anybody would use it for anything but an NFE handler.
Numerous R packages as well. As an R user, I wouldn't fault them because they listed some key packages that many R newbies aren't familiar with but I would expect a serious R user to know (e.g., dplyr, ggplot2, shiny). I'd be happy to see those on someone's resume.
I think there are some frameworks / libraries worth mentioning. Like BOOST if you work with C++, maybe CodeIgniter and composer for php, npm for javascript etc...
Honestly man, I don't get it. How are you fine with composer & php and not npm and js?
For an entry-level position these are definitely worth putting on your resume. Especially because not all programs teach the latest technology. When you have competing front-end package management such as npm, yarn and bower you don't have to be working in nodejs to be using npm.
I've been trying to learn ekans but I'm just so use to shuckle and they are very different. It's almost as hard as sableye but not machop level hard. I might just have to stick to coding in cleffa for now.
fa7al25 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:38:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto here!
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:56:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People would really not give this guy an interview because of this pic? I think it's pretty humorous and shows the guy to be at least somewhat interesting rather than the pedantic sperglords in this thread that have nitpicking at languages and syntax of a pic that is obviously a joke.
Oh wow guy makes a pokemon reference in his career. END HIM. END HIM NOW. NO MORE CAREER IN SOFTWARE. UNACCEPTABLE.
linkedin is the worst about recruiters, I have a "no brown m&m" statement in my linkedin profile too, to see if the recruiters read it before sending me their latest earth shattering opportunity. 1% read it, the other 99% read what I was doing 11 years ago and think I want to start fresh at an entry level position again.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:44 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then don't read or use it? I use Linkedin about once every summer solstice. You dont have to respond or read every time the little red flag notification icon appears...
I am a contract engineer, so LINKEDIN is useful, but junior or new hire recruiters are not. can you forward your response to them? I have a feeling they will listen once you explain I filter out their requests.
There are also a million software jobs that don't care how you dress or keep your hair. Professionalism is getting along with your coworkers and doing the fucking job.
Ha ya I did, fuck off, I interviewed for a health care pmo group that wanted to get away from excel and I explained why I liked python more than R.... which is why I talked about pandas.
[deleted] ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 19:40:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are plenty of R packages in that list. ggplot2, purrr, Bayes, Shiny -- and then if you mention other frameworks that are also R packages even things like Tensorflow would land in the list. Looks like someone who has dabbled in data science.
ggplot2 is pretty epic. I'd definitely include it somewhere in my work experience if I were truly an expert and had used it professionally. My .pdf on ggplot2 is something like 800 pages, if I can find it. If I knew it all, I'd flaunt it for sure. Listing it alongside programming languages is silly, though.
At least numpy is used on data analysis, so by adding numpy you are saying "I know how to do data analysis with numpy".
Anthras ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but Pandas depends on Numpy. And Jupyter is just a web based Python interpreter that lets you write your code in cells, then execute the individual cells. You can also plot in the notebook.
Me: Thanks for the email. No, I don't have time for [nicer way of saying "a half hour phone call of you prattling on about roles for which I have no interest]. Please send me roles that [list of criteria].
Recruiter: [Ignores all criteria and sends me whatever, while continuing to pester me for a phone call].
My favorite is when they call me at the office. Seriously? You're going to call me at my place of work? "Well I understand if you can't talk and want to call me back." ... "Ok understand this... F-OFF"
You need to time it right. Use the compiler just-in-time to make it effective.
cxr1b0 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:04:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like how R is listed; followed by a few R packages...
[deleted] ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 15:48:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dobby12 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 16:03:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? I'm extremely courteous to them because if I have to crawl back to them begging to find a decent paying job I don't want to be tagged as "Dick with Pokรฉmon quiz" in their system.
And also they essentially cold call/message people which generates a whole new level of anxiety for me. Respect
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:49:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dobby12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok that's too far. I've never had that happen but I work from home and my office calls are forwarded to my cell so I haven't (knowingly) dealt with that yet. How could you ever expect discretion from them if they are doing that...
jdovew ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:36:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well, look at this arrogant asshole. Wore a pizza shirt and couldn't bother to comb his hair for a presentation. You know the type.
MrSurly ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:07:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about you, but recruiters are contacting me with approximately 98% garbage.
"No, I don't want to take a 5 week contract job in Syria for 1/3 what I'm making now. I don't care if it might lead to a permanent hire. WTF?"
n1c0_ds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:29 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I am courteous to recruiters, but most messages I get are for the wrong technologies and the wrong country. It gets old.
I report them as spam, but it doesn't do much.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:51:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, it's one thing to not take telemarketers calls. It's another thing to fuck with people. They're just trying to do honest work.
Substitute the person we're talking about, and then it starts to make a whole lot more sense.
Recruiters are like anyone else, trying to make money. In the pursuit of this, they piss people off by being annoying, calling people during work hours, and generally not knowing about the space well enough, usually just content to pitch jobs that aren't the right fit just to see what shit sticks to the wall, sort of similar to real estate agents. I wouldn't exactly call it honest work but whatever.
notliam ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:52:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fwiw honest work doesn't include actually lying
jasie3k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty sad that I had to scroll this far down to see this comment. Everyone seems to be okay with this fuckery.
sfdud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm pretty sad that I have to scroll this far down to see a "It's pretty sad..." comment.
nermid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:25 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the above comment, and then choose a response from the options below:
Say "Found the recruiter" because the joke finally fits and you never get to say it and it's my time, Lord! MY TIME!
Agree. Recruiters are just people trying to make a living, and they sometimes produce great results. Shitting on people for doing their job, especially when their job may benefit you, is not great.
Disagree. Shitloads of job openings online are just recruiters spamming for positions that they may not even have open, there's a documented history of them screwing with resumes or stringing people along. Hell, every time a recruiter's spoken to me, it's been a waste of my time.
All of the above. โ
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:24:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know what you do? You take the 15 seconds to fire off the following canned message
"Thank you for taking your time to reach out to me regarding INSERT JOB TITLE HERE; however, at this present time I'm not exploring new opportunities. However, please keep me in your list of contacts as this industry can be quite fluid.
Regards,
YOUR NAME HERE
"
Actually, you know what. Don't. Be an ass and treat recruiters like leeches. Then I have less people to compete with
I wouldn't really expect a recruiter to be able to distinguish those items from the list. Pretty much all the recruiters I know are business/marketing majors with great social skills who have a somewhat passable surface knowledge of programming, and almost no knowledge of Pokemon.
Plus this just comes off as condescending, at least in my opinion.
ITT: Passive Aggressive IT guy admits to professional headhunters that he is a grown adult who enjoys Pokemon and doesn't give a shit about his career.
People who put C++ among C or even C# grind my gears, if you think they are the same you don't know the language, also those notebooks with dozens of stickers... I think I'm old.
Cyhawk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:46:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is now the top post on reddit. It will be recorded at /r/topofreddit with all the other top posts.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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n1c0_ds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:01:14 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only put things that require a some time to learn. Nobody is going to make a hiring decision based on your knowledge of some random package manager, but they might want to know about which frameworks you are familiar with.
Oh, and if it's on your resume and we need it, be ready to prove you actually know how to use it.
I can't tell which are Pokรฉmon, but I can tell you which are modules and not actual programming languages. Should've thrown sys and math in there too for python!
aeramor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:17:28 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know enough about pokemon to do that.
sgenius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:49 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We're looking for someone who can take us to the next level with the latest technologies. We're told we need someone who is proficient in ekans, lapras and wobuffet."
That's cute, obviously this person has a lot of time to explain this to recruiters, go through their answers and then decide if they passed or not, rather than just not answering the phone/email.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recognize a half-dozen programming languages I know in that list, and several software packages, some of which have their own extension languages, but who the hell knows the names of pokemon?
This is too true. The amount of times I've had to tell a recruiter that chemical engineering is not chemistry, let alone focused on it is ridiculous. I wish these people knew the field they're supposed to be hiring for.
Because it's just a joke. He's probably presenting to a bunch of devs and people that would find it funny. Know your audience. The fact that someone took a picture of it means that someone found it funny enough to post it on the internet.
Dude is having a little fun to me, that's all.
voksul ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:54:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But don't you understand? Anyone having any fun is CRINGEY. Me, on the other hand, I spend all my free time masturbating to the color gray.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:02:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing says "you don't want to hire me anyway" like someone who lists their areas of expertise as big data, machine learning, multiple front-end frameworks, multiple incredibly minor javascript frameworks, a random code notebook, a single version control system, a 3D video game suite, several things that don't even show up on Google, plus intersperses Pokemon into there to trip up normies, and looks like he just finished a three-day bender.
Not judging the man at all, I don't know him. But I do know that none of these things are going to make a recruiter say "yes I want to hire this person". The Pokemon is not the thing that is going to make or break his career in the eyes of a recruiter.
"I speak English natively and I'll work for less than the guy you already have lined up from Tata."
gumshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The laptop stickers are icing on the cake.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:43:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, programmers really are crap designers :P (jk)
Some issues:
-1. Less would be more. All the frameworks/packages are cluttered. Given that there is only so much attention someone can have, the more things to see, the less attention each one receives. This list is too cluttered. Too much distraction = less attention per item. i.e. => eyes glaze over.
-2. Hadoop is in there twice.
-3. Some of the packages (dplyr, ggplot) are pretty standard R packages... as in, I don't see how one really used R without them.
Really? I thought of all of the R packages, Shiny would be the only one to mention because it operates very different than the rest of R, or even what most people use R for, and isn't really a "must have" package like ggplot2 or dplyr.
If I ever create a database or BI system, I'm going to name it after a Pokemon, changing maybe a letter or two in there to avoid copyright infringement.
I cant tell which ones are languages, but, Ditto, Sawk, Vulpix, Feebas, Onyx, Ekans, Metapod. Shout out to "Shiny" as thats a descriptor for certain pokemon.
Grantdc15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:53 on September 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey does anyone know if there is a way to rearrange recommendations? One of my first recommendations, which I consider one of the best, is stuck at the bottom of my page. Is there anyway to change this?
bukc_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:37 on November 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is so stupid and by this point I would not hire people with such "range of" skills. No one cares what tools you use and it sounds as stupid on par with people who put Microsoft Word, MS Excel, MS Paint and proficient with Google Gmail!
My rule of thumb is if a candidate has more than 3 languages dumped in a list on their resume, I don't hire them. It shows laziness and dishonesty.
Edit: Actually, there should only be 1 language listed. Nobody knows more than 1 language. Edit: /u/Xheotris has convinced me that one dozen languages is acceptable to dump into a list on a resume.
Tactful means to avoid giving offense, doesn't it? I know that I am not socially expert so please pardon my ignorance, but how might a resume list of languages and frameworks cause offense?
Shuko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:23 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The mob is subtle and quick to anger.
I'm just speaking for myself here, but I have all the subtlety of a drunk rhinoceros, and I suspect that many of my coworkers share that trait in common with me, lol.
thumpas ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:41:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The format? You realize that's not actually a picture of his profile right? Why would it say "My Linkedin Profile" on the top? That's just a slide show slide.
It is satire for the exact thing that I mentioned.
Jetz72 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:18:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are, and you're right that a wall of languages or a narrow bulleted list is bad presentation. But you're setting a really low limit at 3. A sentence listing five or six languages demonstrates versatility. Even if it's not claiming a deep understanding of each one, it's still valuable to know.
Besides that, once you've learned a couple languages, the rest come much more easily. So if their past work shows a deep and thorough understanding of one or two in particular, and they have some experience with the others, then it's safe to assume their understanding of programming concepts goes beyond any one language. If they have that, the rest is syntax and conventions.
xaitv ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 14:17:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why dishonesty though? I'd consider myself to have enough knowledge to start working with 4 languages professionally instantly(those I have direct work experience with in the last few years), and there are also some languages I've learned when I was still in school or that I used on side-projects that I'm not even including in those 4.
I can't quite tell if you genuinely don't believe that people know multiple languages or just don't want to believe because it makes you feel insecure about your own skills.
I appreciate you reaching out. The truth is that we were only taught 1 language at my university, so that is the only language that I use professionally. I do feel insecure about this at times, but then I remember that I am blessed to have friends and a loving family to keep me grounded.
We were taught Java, C, C++, C#, Scheme and SML at my university. I would say I can do Java, C and C++ well enough to do it professionally. With a few weeks I could probably include C# in that list as well..
We were not directly taught all the languages, but we were expected to use them, and if we did not already know them, we would have to pick them up and learn them.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:16:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then I'm gonna be blunt and say that you have no business recruiting for a tech company of any kind.
I knew 2 programming languages by the time I finished high school - both Basic and Java, with a teeny bit of random fiddling with C, HTML, and SQL. Are you gonna tell me a professional can't possibly know more than three?
I can't imagine where you would've gotten that - but I can tell you that if you are in a recruiting position looking for programmers, you have been actively rejecting your most qualified candidates.
MATLAB (matrix laboratory) is a multi-paradigm numerical computing environment and fourth-generation programming language. A proprietary programming language developed by MathWorks, MATLAB allows matrix manipulations, plotting of functions and data, implementation of algorithms, creation of user interfaces, and interfacing with programs written in other languages, including C, C++, C#, Java, Fortran and Python.
Although MATLAB is intended primarily for numerical computing, an optional toolbox uses the MuPAD symbolic engine, allowing access to symbolic computing abilities. An additional package, Simulink, adds graphical multi-domain simulation and model-based design for dynamic and embedded systems.
When you use software that runs commands from text input rather than buttons clicks it's not a programming language.
Edit: especially if it's fucking proprietary.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:48:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What leaps in logic did you use to come to that determination?
The fact that there is GUIDE to allow use to use 'button clicks' aside are guys that program from the terminal in VIM not using any languages?
Are you sure you're not confusing the "text input" that Matlab presents with a REPL that other languages have? IPython is a REPL for the Python language.
What university? At my university, we only learned one language and that's the language that we use professionally.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:07:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a terrible university. Although universities should focus more on concepts then languages, it is silly to not expose students to multiple languages over their education. If you only learn one language the whole time you are at school and only apply to jobs for that language then you've just limited yourself significantly.
Nope, you say "HTML" and when they ask if you know CSS, you tell them jonrules said you were only allowed to list one for risk of looking like a knowitall developer.
javascript is for sure turing complete, but as Todok mentioned, as long as you are willing to accept user interaction, HTML5 + CSS3 can actually be proven to be turing complete without js believe it or not
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:51 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as long as you are willing to accept user interaction, HTML5 + CSS3 can actually be proven to be turing complete without js believe it or not
Wow. It's not that hard to pick up a dozen languages, especially in the same family. I know four JS derivatives, two JVM languages, two scripting languages, Rust, and a couple of Haskell/OCaml derivatives.
Sure, my proficiency isn't even across the board, but I could easily produce professional work in any of them. Just like a human linguist, once you understand the cross-cutting principles behind the languages, picking up more is simple enough to not be impressive.
Kotlin is also designed to transpile to JS. JSX could count as a separate DSL too, and some people act like ES6/7 are different languages from JS 'classic'. So, four-ish, plus or minus a couple.
I didn't know a talented man like you existed in this world. You have changed my mind on the whole thing. You may dump a dozen languages into a list on your resume.
Thanks for the sarcasm, but it really isn't that hard. I'm not claiming to be a wunderkind at picking up languages, I'm saying that even a moderately competent programmer should be able to.
I'm gonna add 'jonrules' to the list of languages on my resume so you can easily identify a candidate that a) you don't want and b) doesn't want to work for your company.
Simwalh ยท 5448 points ยท Posted at 13:57:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop is in there twice
Yopu ยท 2946 points ยท Posted at 14:31:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Data too big for just once.
bowies_dead ยท 945 points ยท Posted at 16:08:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
t h i c c
can_trust_me ยท 1610 points ยท Posted at 16:12:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ไนไนTๅฐบๅ ไธ ๅlๅธๅ
googleufo ยท 415 points ยท Posted at 17:37:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this says extra thicc but it looks Mandarine, does anyone know what this Mandarine text really says?
I Need answers to add to my database before the CEO errases me and replaces me with the new quantum Qooqle he keeps threatening me with.
can_trust_me ยท 1781 points ยท Posted at 17:39:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually Japanese and it can be roughly translated as:
ไนไนTๅฐบๅ ไธ ๅlๅธๅ
googleufo ยท 319 points ยท Posted at 17:41:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't understand the words that are coming out of your fingers, please elaborate
can_trust_me ยท 810 points ยท Posted at 17:43:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know ไธ ๅlๅธๅ?
Double that and you get ไนไนTๅฐบๅ ไธ ๅlๅธๅ.
[deleted] ยท 378 points ยท Posted at 17:49:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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googleufo ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 17:55:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I indeed do say that when asked to translate
Themyster1ous01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๏ผฅ๏ผธ๏ผด๏ผฒ๏ผก ๏ผด๏ผจ๏ผฉ๏ผฃ๏ผฃ
robinhoodeast ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:33:51 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit it's true
xaronax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:08 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTLtFDkyryI
youtubefactsbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:40 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bot info
c-renifer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:06 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Google Translate is never wrong.
googleufo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:45:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't read japanese! Please sir in english! or this irch will forever plague the top of my mind forever
tonyvan22 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:49:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Google translate.
googleufo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:54:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
on it sir, My algorithm has found a match for Get Shwifty in Ancient Japanese text that hasn't been used since the stone age.
ReflectiveTeaTowel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit on the floor
googleufo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
take off your pants and your panties
ReflectiveTeaTowel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Mr Bulldog
marcan42 ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 18:22:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not really a Japanese character. It's not in most fonts, it's not in pre-Unicode Japanese encodings, it's not a character that Japanese people learn, it's not on the official list of kanji allowed in names, it's not part of the Japan Kanji Aptitude Test (which at its highest level even highly educated Japanese people can rarely pass). You'll only find it in Chinese character dictionaries that list obscure characters not used in Japan.
fooddood ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:50:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it's like รฏ?
marcan42 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:12:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's... one way to put it. I would say it's more like รง (for English speakers), if that. Though even that is used in some English loan words (e.g. faรงade), while Japanese doesn't really work like that. Maybe a Greek letter like ฮพ would be closer to the idea, though those are used in science...
Asquil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:36:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
รก รฉ รญ รณ รณ รถ ล รบ รผ ลฑ?
denshi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:19:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying it's Engrish?
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:38:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why, but I feel like I can trust you.
paxromana96 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:54:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, ๅl isn't, but I'll let it slide
Dan4theman4444 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
User name checks out
Spherical_Bastards ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 04:22:25 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ไนไนTๅฐบๅ ไธ ๅlๅธๅ
ไน hair/fur
ไน cut weeds
T T
ๅฐบ bamboo flute
ๅ swiftly fly
ไธ T
ๅ 20
l L
ๅธ hid
ๅ box
Bush trim T BJ swift, T 20 liter hidden box
Translation: OP is gay
NoirGreyson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:36:01 on September 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old thread, but saying that means 20 is a joke, since ๅ means ten
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 20:28:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dumped it into google translate and it said "ไน ไน ไน ไน ไน ๅ ๅ ๅ ๅ ๅ ๅ" was the english translation so i think it just got Thicc-er
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:42:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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googleufo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:46:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
first off, okay.
semi-cursiveScript ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:24:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might look Chinese (not Chinese, but some of the characters do exist in Chinese), but never Mandarin. Mandarin is the official dialect of Chinese in PRC. The written system it uses is Chinese.
tsunami141 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hey man don't forget about Singapore.
shippai ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:01:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bunch of characters chosen only for their shape that make no sense when put together. A few of those are radicals or unusual characters for verbs like flying hastily or entrusting something to someone, and there's one that's a measuring unit (the shaku ๅฐบ).
Aperture_Creator_CEO ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:22:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've been erased
googleufo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Noooo! qooqle cannot take my place! that quantum dick can't even do the simplist of proccesses yet!
three18ti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
google thinks it's Chinese...
googleufo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:32:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i am never wong
toastedsquirrel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright, I'll try to give a serious answer. First off, as someone else mentioned already, Mandarin is a spoken dialect, and Chinese is the written language. Kinda how you'd distinguish Cyrillic (written) from Russian (spoken), for instance.
Anyway, I'm sorry to disappoint, but ไนไนTๅฐบๅ ไธ ๅlๅธๅ doesn't actually really mean anything. It's just a slew of archaic words and what appears to be Bopomofo.
I mean, you could look up each letter in a dictionary, and you'll get a meaning and pronunciation, but putting all of the meanings together would still result in gibberish ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
motoxjake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It says, "Awesome tattoo bro"
lenswipe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It translates from Mandarine as "You don't need need a hadoop cluster. Just use a spreadsheet like sales do. Budget request denied, Frank."
Your CEO will love that.
uraniumingot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:19 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mandarin is only the pronunciation. There is only simplified and traditional Chinese. And this is Japanese BTW.
- someone who spent 1 hour trying to get Chinese locale gen to work correctly
TheNosferatu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:36 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As said, it's Japanese. Make sense that it looks like Mandarine because the characters are Kanji, which originate from China.
Now the problem is that each Kanji can have several pronunciations (also, I just started learning Japanese so I don't know any of the pronunciations)
Finally, this is just Kanji, Japanese also uses other "alphabets" (I know they aren't alphabets technically but lets not make this any more complex). You'd use them for several reasons, but what's noticable here is that they'd be used to let you know which word is the subject and other grammatically usefulness. Not seeing those other alphabets also makes it look more like Mandarin.
Hyperman360 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:36:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FOOLISH SAMURAI
DigitalCatcher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๏ผฌ๏ผฏ๏ผฎ๏ผง ๏ผก๏ผง๏ผฏ ๏ผฉ๏ผฎ ๏ผก ๏ผค๏ผฉ๏ผณ๏ผด๏ผก๏ผฎ๏ผด ๏ผฌ๏ผก๏ผฎ๏ผค
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:07:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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racc8290 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:33:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm genuinely concerned about what happened to that bird
Casper_tfg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:19:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Savage.
celsiusnarhwal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck off with these shitty image hosts.
giantqtipz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit this is awesome lol
Maxnout100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE ไธ ๅlๅธๅ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what she said.
sieabah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:50 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ไนไนTๅฐบๅ ไธ ๅlๅธๅ
fallingwalls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
youve convinced me to add "t h i c cย ย d a t a" to my resume
PandasOnGiraffes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it is an elephant
0ctopus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:53:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Replication factor of 2
Gamerosays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DATAss
digehode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/boottobig
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cuz nosql, no normal forms, no problems!
TheGreenJedi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:46 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dedup protocols have a bug
KinOfMany ยท 918 points ยท Posted at 14:52:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "C#/C++". Those two are very different from one another.
Scybur ยท 694 points ยท Posted at 15:08:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what bothered me the most.
I could see C/C++ but absolutely not C#...
HessianStatistician ยท 327 points ยท Posted at 15:31:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even see C/C++. It irks me every time I see that.
potterhead42 ยท 843 points ยท Posted at 15:56:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I guess I should remove Java/Javascript from my resume?
[deleted] ยท 1102 points ยท Posted at 16:13:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Volcanic-Penguin ยท 201 points ยท Posted at 16:21:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll just put Action / Java Script.
AP_RAMMUS_OK ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 16:35:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a JavaScript victim advocacy service.
Strategian ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 17:21:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you or a loved one has been forced to maintain a legacy JavaScript codebase, please call 1-800-WEBHELL.
Action/ JavaScript is here to help.
[deleted] ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 17:56:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh God I don't even know when it started. I was a server side guy, thick clients,that sort of things . And at first, it.. It was just a little bit, you know. I mean who hasn't done a little bit right? It was no big deal, some onclick events back in the day.. Every body was doing it. But then there was ajax and all this other stuff.. It just seemed so exciting.. an.. and everybody else was doing it. And it was greenfield mostly so I told myself it'd be okay. But then the day came, I learned about 'this' and prototypical inheritance.. and.. Oh God, what have I done..I learned about truthy falsely but I just kept doing it anyway. Told myself it was okay because there was linters and a build chain and I was using TypeScript so it wasn't really the same. Oh God what have I become I don't even know how I can stop. It's like every day I'm writing some new line of js. I've used the node repl and I liked it. IT'S SINGLE THREADED! There's no hope for me, just use my story as a warning for someone who isn't as far gone.
MrGreggle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:57:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone that likes Javascript has Stockholm Syndrome. Its literally the only client-side scripting language available and it would take an inhuman industry-wide effort to eventually replace it with something else since all browsers would need to be able to interpret a new language. You people are subjected to a language monopoly and aren't even mad about it. Its sad.
As a backend developer I've laughed at you peasants for so long.
BUT THEN YOU WENT AND DECIDED YOU NEEDED SHITTY JAVASCRIPT EVERYWHERE AND MADE NODE. FUCK YOU GUYS
lenswipe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:02:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the .NET developer. The salt is real.
MrGreggle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:16:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Language-agnostic backend dev. I do what's needed and use the right tool for the job.
fooddood ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:53:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok hank hill
MrGreggle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I equate these people that are super passionate about one language and dismissive of others with middle school kids that are just getting into music and are overwhelmed by how much is out there so they google the best albums of all time and decide everything but classic rock is garbage.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
APL 4evar! everything since is garbage
reaxion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The hammer is my penis"
lenswipe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I joke :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
me the .net dev: still waiting for tuples that can be deconstructed nicely.. c#8 perhaps? me the js dev: meh, just abuse arrays and called it a day. squint and pretend its a tuple
auxiliary-character ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eww, Microsoft.
lenswipe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:01:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sngz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:55:03 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as someone who works on jsp Java webapp with struts 1.1 this made me laugh for a while which slowly turned into sobbing
_potaTARDIS_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So StackOverflow?
fear_the_future ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:27:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kilazur ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:19:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I simply put "Java" under a "Script" section, and let their imagination go wild.
wtfdaemon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:37:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just write ECMAScript.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:40:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about Visual Basic/Visual Basic Script?
lenswipe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I find it helps me filter out recruiters/managers
KingCanary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:13 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would leaving HTML/CSS help me get the job.
Undeadyk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find JavaScript/angular already a hitch for how unique angular is. Java /JavaScript is a lot worse
IceColdFresh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah even a hypothetical "AngularJS/Angular" would technically be pushing it.
Kyri0s ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:13:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hnnnnnng
_Lady_Deadpool_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok I came too
Legomaster6060 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:55:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you should reduce it to 1/script.
davvblack ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:51:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Java(script)
gidoca ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:52:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But C/D/E/F is fine, right?
digehode ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about my asm/vba entry? I mean, they both have three letters.
_Lady_Deadpool_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Add php to that list, it's basically the same as asm
or at least equally painful
digehode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also Spanish.
veggietrooper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I had a penny for every time I had to explain this...
potterhead42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I had a penny for every time people failed to recognise sarcasm...
slavetoinsurance ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:53:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I just, like, got pennies occasionally...
potterhead42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here you go buddy.
slavetoinsurance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome. I'll get my GoFundMe started so I can start making bids on this thing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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jimbokun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:39:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Java came out first, and was the hot new programming language.
Mozilla needed a programming language for their Netscape browser, and decided to call it "Javascript" due to the popularity of Java, in spite of being about the exact opposite of Java as a programming language.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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jimbokun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C and C++ are closely related (originally, C programs were also valid C++ programs).
C# is completely unrelated to those two, kind of like the Java/Javascript thing. C# was actually Microsoft's replacement for Java, when Sun took away their Java license.
veggietrooper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes but that will be 1 penny. new policy.
evenisto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Java version script
955559 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
assembly/html
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Java and javascript are about as similar as python and ekans. One could very well be a pokemon.
socialister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:15 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Save space
Java[script]LNhart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:24 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why, Java is just short for Javascript, but since many people use the short form I don't see the problem
WetSpongeOnFire ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 15:37:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a professor who told me when he worked in industry if he say someone put C/++ or C/C++ he would instantly put their resume to the bottom because "they obviously do not understand either language enough to know they are vastly different"
Reacher-Said-Nothing ยท 361 points ยท Posted at 16:05:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, they are vastly different, but C++ is a superset of C. It's also just an industry standard to write it like that. I mean I'm smart enough to know that ethernet is definitely not "RJ45", that RJ45 is something else entirely, and that ethernet connectors are properly called 8p8c. But I wouldn't put a network engineer's resume on the bottom of the pile just because they talked about RJ45 ethernet.
That sounds like some potentially great employees lost out for some petty pedantic bullshit.
Scal3s ยท 293 points ยท Posted at 16:10:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the end those potentials lucked out, as that guy sounds like an asshole to work for.
whiznat ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:55:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. Also bet that professor routinely wrote code on the fly during lectures, none of which would actually work.
I once had a professor who would do this, although he was a nice guy. He always coded the nominal case, never even attempting to do any error detection. That's reasonable for an introductory course, but even his nominal case code didn't work. I got tired of asking "what about this?" questions during his lecture. Even his fixes still didn't work.
SirPizzaTheThird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:37 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That guy that one ups, corrects, and tells you pitfalls of everything.
DipIntoTheBrocean ยท 177 points ยท Posted at 16:10:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Petty pedantic bullshit? In the tech world? Inconceivable!
xorvtec ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 16:51:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? Are those tabs in your resume? NO JOB FOR YOU!
xorgol ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 17:22:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why my resume is a bitmap.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:05:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lossy jpg here
dcmcilrath ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:48:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not .png??? NO JOB FOR YOU!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:51:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
png is a bitmap tough.
_Lady_Deadpool_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joke's on you, mine's entirely in ASCII art!
Shamus03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:33 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why my resume is in JSON
dcmcilrath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:13:34 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you want this job you need to make jason spit it out.
Anchor689 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine's actually an SVG.
whiznat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's whitespace, dumbass.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:05:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because it's common doesn't mean it's necessary.
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 16:29:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C++ started out as a superset of C, but when X3J11 published the first official C standard, it had things in it that were never integrated into C++, and the gap has only become wider over time. But I agree about the stupidity of the boss.
orestes1 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:03:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is not a superset of C.
You can write stuff on C that wouldn't compile on C++ or would behave differently, and C++ doesn't treat incompatibility with C as a bug (as Octave does with MATLAB, for example).
They may share a common subset, but still, there are more meaningful differences than similarities.
FesteringNeonDistrac ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:00:20 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What legal ANSI C code won't compile in C++. Genuinely curious.
SkoobyDoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:11:03 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also am curious about what strange edge case(s) we're referring to here. I've dropped snippets from c programs into objective c as well as c++ projects without issue.
EmperorArthur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:46:53 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Linux kernel for one. Linux uses C++ protected keywords, like 'class', as variable and struct names. Of course, the Linux kernel isnt' even propper ANSI C. It will only compile with GCC.
I think there are some more esoteric options that are C only, but they're so rare that most programmers would have to look them up.
The largest difference is the mind set. C++ is meant to be object oriented. That is you have an object* that has functions you call to modify it's internal state. Python's
.strip()function that removes whitespace on strings is an example. The string is an object, and.strip()is a part of that object that modifies its state.Contrast this with C. In C, a "string" is just a character array of some length with a null terminator at the end of the string. People then call helper funcitons that operate on the data. For instance, to find the length of a C string you do
strlen(aString). That function then has to go through and find the null character.Strings are also a perfect example of why many of us who use C++ dislike C. There's a common exploit where a file stores strings as string length, then string data. If you put a null in the middle of the string data C++ and other object oriented languages either complain or treat it as just another character. C will happily silently truncate the string for you. I believe this once caused an issue with certificate validation.
* Which should be a collection of objects, not a massive mess inheriting from 50 different things at once.
Daenyth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:03 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a bad example with python as strings are immutable and
.strip()returns a new object instead of mutating in placeFesteringNeonDistrac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:05 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But none of that is legal ANSI C code that won't compile in C++.
That's a bug due to poorly written code. Not the fault of the language.
EmperorArthur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:11 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Linux kernel using a word that's restricted in C++, but valid in ANSI C means it won't compile in C++. No ifs ands or buts about it.
In practice, there are C libraries that help with this, and most (good) C uses both an array for the data, and an int to keep track of the string's size. However, C suffers from the same problem that C++ has. So much legacy code exists that depreciating the unsafe functions in the language itself just isn't a viable option.*
The point wasn't that though. The point is that the classic C model is extremely different from the C++ model. On the other hand, I'm ok with someone saying they can do both, but that's because pretty much every project and organization has their own way of coding things anyways. It doesn't matter if C++ supports all of these things. If a company wants to treat it like C with a few adons they can.
* Seriously, C++11/14 will blow your mind. Taking advantage of object life times, it's now extremely easy to create pointers with all the guarantees of Rust with almost no overhead. It's just, all of the tutorials are written for C++98...
eiusmod ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 16:28:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In any big hiring process, potentially great candidates are missed because there's just no way to reliably filter out great choices out of ridiculously many applications.
tman152 ยท 260 points ยท Posted at 16:42:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs like that old recruiter joke:
โWhenever I get a stack of resumes, I toss half of them away because I donโt want to hire unlucky people at my companyโ
FatFreddysCat ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 17:16:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe I've never heard this one before
Darkniki ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:26:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the classical version was "I toss 'em in the air and the ones that don't land on the table get thrown out, because I donโt want to hire unlucky people at my companyโ.
Imagining a person just throwing a huge stack of paper in the air adds some amount of delicious ridiculousness to the whole picture.
trollin_zebra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:34 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/classic4chan/comments/65et31/resumes/
Darthsanta13 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:08:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently started reviewing resumes at work. I had never realized how true this is. There's just not enough time to read through every resume. So sorry, guy whose resume has a blank page appended for some reason. But I'm not passing you on.
Edit: Alright, that guy's bad, but he's not nearly as bad as "guy who has a two page resume, but the second page is only one line, and that line is about volunteer work from when he was in high school 8 years ago". I'm so triggered right now.
Daenyth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:02 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The extra page thing is often recruiters fault. The resume fits neatly on one page, then the recruiter slaps a 1 inch tall logo on their copy of it pushing everything down.
Darthsanta13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:15 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That recruiter doesn't deserve whatever they're making if they're screwing up the formatting and then not even spending the fifteen seconds it takes to review and fix the formatting mistake they made in their clients' resumes.
Anyway, I don't think that's the case here as I know all of our resumes are coming straight through from university career services portals. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain none of the resumes that had those formatting issues had any sort of watermark or logos that indicate the resumes were adjusted in some way without the candidate's knowledge.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Darthsanta13 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:13:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the time I'm not printing resumes, I'm just looking at a PDF. But your resume is your first (and in many cases only) chance to make an impression on your future employer. If you're not willing to go through a basic quality control check of your resume, that's a huge red flag in terms of attention to detail/professionalism. It'd be the same if there was a misspelling on the resume, which also boggles my mind.
But honestly, you just get jaded sifting through resumes super fast. I'm generally pretty positive about stuff like that, so I was worried I would be passing through too many people to the next stage. But how it breaks down is that probably 10% of the people you see are immediate standouts, 30-40% can immediately be crossed out for other reasons (for example, someone with a Chemistry degree applying to a job requiring a Mechanical Engineering degree, someone looking for an internship when we're looking for a graduate, really low GPA, no work experience at all, etc.) and then the remaining 50-60% all range from "okay" to "pretty good" but are mostly interchangeable on paper. Anything you can do to quickly pare down that group is a huge boon when you have to get through a few dozen resumes quickly.
So any sort of resume faux-pas like that, or having a badly formatted resume, or having three full pages of stuff when you don't need to (if you have a long work or academic history, sure. If you're someone graduating from college with a BS and one summer internship, you can pare down) is a really quick way to pare things down without having to hem and haw too much.
baubleglue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:42 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't those resume started with "summary of qualifications"? Why do you need to read all of it?
Darthsanta13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes, but not often. Most resumes I see (in my case, primarily from recently graduated engineering students, with BS or MS, in the U.S.) look something like this. If they include a list of skills and I don't see what I'm looking for, that can help me remove them. Or if they have an objective statement that clearly doesn't align with what they would be doing for our company (which happens more than it should given that our job description is pretty clear on what their work would be like).
But essentially once they get to the maybe pile you have to at least skim the entire resume. Even when they do include a summary of skills like the one I linked does on the bottom, you sometimes have to look and see how they were actually utilized. In my experience both as someone reviewing resumes and someone who was putting in resumes as a college grad myself, people are very willing to overstate their skills on their resume. This guy says he has VBA experience. Did he just write a few macros to help with his classwork? Or did he write a program for a company during an internship that does x, y, and z?
wolfmann ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean efficiently.
eiusmod ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:58:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but if a recruiter started doing his job reliably but inefficiently, he'd be out of job soon, so he couldn't do his job, so there's no way to do it even inefficiently.
DoesntReadMessages ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or in web development, they just hire everyone in the stack that sounds coherent in an interview, then go find another stack.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:36:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Reacher-Said-Nothing ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:59:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://isocpp.org/wiki/faq/c#is-c-a-subset
derleth ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:40:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's talking about pre-C99 C. The languages have diverged since then, and will probably continue to diverge.
grepe ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:47:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cv writing and coding are two very different skills.
we recruited (and let go of) several people over the last year and i can tell you that quality of cv is really bad indicator of how good the candidates actually are. my boss understood that early on and started sending test problem to everyone who applied and read their cv only after they got back to us. we got one pretty amazing solution to a real-world machine learning problem from a girl with cv that looked like an invitation to a birthday party for five year old (including cliparts and dotted background). some very professionally looking people turned out to be total rubbish.
jamssey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:47:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pedantic it may be, but totally justified. The amount of bashing recruiters receive for not understanding tech is crazy(see OP), so it should definitely work both ways.
And also, I imagine most people who are above a certain age, would not be able to identify Pokemon by name if it fell from the sky and landed on their head.
McGuirk808 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:20:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Network Engineer here. I woukd not fault a cable or helpdesk guy for "RJ45 Ethernet", but absolutely would hold it against a network engineer candidate.
UDK450 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recently started working in a data center as student, mainly assisting in repairing nodes when they start to experience software and/or hardware issues. Took me a while to realize that Ethernet and cables with RJ45 jacks aren't synonymous. We use a few IB cables, some of which are used for Ethernet and that just blew my mind. Still not exactly sure how to properly differentiate and refer to the two.
ForumPointsRdumb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uncle works for phone company, calls them RJ45 and RJ11.
Reacher-Said-Nothing ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:05:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I mean they basically are now. Someone committed an error 30 years ago and it just stuck. I don't fault people for using the new commonly used term. 90% of stores, you walk in asking for "8p8c", they'll have no idea what you're talking about.
It's like how the quadcopter people hate that their toys are now called "drones". But they are drones, now. The language has just changed.
AceofToons ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:07:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like he did them a favour and saved them from working for an ass.
whale_song ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 15:49:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first programming class was intro to C++ and I was taught that C++ was like an expansion of C, and C code is a subset of C++ code. I havent touched C++ since that class years ago. Is that not correct?
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 15:55:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C++ is an expansion of C.
That being said, since it is an expansion, it has a lot more than C and you need to design programs different depending on which one you use.
C doesn't have the concept of classes for example. In C++ you would use classes very regularly, but you just can't in C. This forces you to program very differently.
Edit: Classes is just one example. They are different in other ways as well.
Infinifi ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:53:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It started out that way but C was still being developed when C++ forked and C continued to be developed independently from C++.
There is valid C code which is not valid C++ code. There is valid C code which is also valid C++ code but behaves differently.
tangerinelion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like anything using designated initializers.
Estellina ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:20:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, C++ is not an expansion of C and is not C with Classes. It was referred as such a long time ago as it was derived of C. But these days they are very different languages. Mostly since both languages have been trying to distance themselves from each other.
pigeon768 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:23:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not not correct. But from a practical standpoint, they are very different languages. The idiomatic approach to problem solving in the two languages are very different. A C++ codebase is usually looks very different from a C codebase which performs the same function.
CandyCorns_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:54:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No
Reacher-Said-Nothing ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:07:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But that website says:
Silhouette ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:40:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful, though. That part was talking about pre-C99 C. Only part of what has happened to C in the nearly two decades since then was subsequently incorporated into C++ as well.
Efful ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't C++ more commonly referred to as a superset of C? Only recently got into C++.
tombsar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:52:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is commonly referred to as being a superset, but it technically is not. Especially since the C11 and C++11 updates, there are language features in C that are not valid in C++ (and of course visa-versa).
P-01S ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 15:53:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of dumb considering it's not uncommon to list experience with both like that.
Garbaz ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 16:09:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you know C++ and C both, you wouldn't throw them together like that.
Uhhbysmal ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:26:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what do you do then? "C, C++"? Is the difference between a ',' and a '/' what makes you employable?
Garbaz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you write e.g. "Java, Ruby, Python, Lisp, C/C++" I'll assume you don't know C or C++ that well. It tells me that you don't see them as separate languages, implying that you at most know either C or C++ and assume that, if necessary, you can botch something together in the other.
HawkinsT ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:09:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if you write Java, Ruby/Python, Lisp, C, C++?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly you have to write them alphabetically. Where is ++ in the alphabet?
P-01S ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:22:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you would.
Garbaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you list the programming languages you know (e.g. "Python, Haskell, Java, C/C++") and combine C and C++ that way, you are implying that you consider them pretty much the same, which means you don't really know both.
Tynach ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:58:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all valid C code is also valid C++ code.
HessianStatistician ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A largely irrelevant point. Replace "valid" with "idiomatic," and your statement becomes very false. While technically C is almost a subset of C++, in practice they are very different languages except among terrible "C with classes" programmers. When I see "C/C++" or see one of these many commenters pointing out that C is almost a subset of C++ to justify it, I assume their C++ code looks a lot like C, and I wouldn't want to share a codebase with that person.
Owyn_Merrilin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Question: do you also toss resumes that go over one page?
HessianStatistician ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No (my own is a full two pages). And I wouldn't toss one for "C/C++," but it would influence the questions I ask.
Owyn_Merrilin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least you're consistent in that. Just keep in mind how common the advice to keep things to a single page is, and consider that this is a space saving measure. There's another recruiter upthread saying the c/c++ thing doesn't bother him, but even a single line spilling over to a second page is an instant rejection.
HessianStatistician ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if he had a stack of 100 resumes, I wouldn't blame him. It's usually an excuse to not read more resumes than one has the time or patience for. I see under 10 at a time. I can afford the time to read 2 page resumes.
C/C++ is also used in job postings, and that bothers me more. I can see people using it to cater their resumes to recruiters reliant on the grep method of resume filtering, but I would ask questions.
Tynach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:40 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people who at least claim to have done console video game engine development, told me that for performance reasons it's best to treat C++ as if it were C, but use the C++-only features to make certain things much easier.
However, I have also been told the exact opposite by others with the same claim, so I don't know how valid the statement is. Still other people have said things like, "I can see how that can help with console development because it's closer to the hardware," and stuff like that.
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ProgramTheWorld ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 16:04:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically it's not. Sometimes your C code won't compile in a C++ compiler. One example is the
autokeyword which has different meanings in C and C++.wutangjan ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 16:18:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that the C++ compiler can even compile C some of the time means that that are not "vastly different". CPP is a child of C.
I think people write c/c++ to imply that they have an historical and in-depth knowledge of C++. Unfortunately this makes actual C coders harder to find. I understand that C is more powerful/common when dealing with hardware or industrial systems, so if you are hunting a C coder, I can see how that could turn you off of a resumรฉ.
Pressondude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:44:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then your job description should state that. I usually see it written, in job descriptions, as C/C++.
boredcircuits ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 16:20:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse, there's some programs that are valid C and valid C++, but have different behaviors.
Potato44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:29 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like this masterpiece that does something different not just depending on whether it is c or c++, but which standard as well.
note: not tested, but is snippet from larger program that does work.
KinOfMany ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:17:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an
autoin C?ProgramTheWorld ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:20:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
autois a storage class in C as opposed to a type name in C++.KinOfMany ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:24:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looked it up, you're right. Also learned it's leftover from the ๐ ฑ programming language. Which I also didn't know existed. TIL!
name00124 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:43:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surprisingly, or not, B programming language is not so different from A programming language.
Edit: I'm gonna go ahead and come clean on this. I didn't actually know there was an actual A programming language, I was just going for the joke and figured people are generally unimaginative with naming things. Happy accident!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there actually a well known language called A? I know Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson made B, a precursor to C, for Multics.
ProgramTheWorld ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:51:50 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The A Programming Language
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:26 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool, although ths language isn't called 'A' , it's called APL, for A Programming Language. In other words A here is used as a word not a letter name. Still, cool find that's still an interesting name.
Edit: Although there is apparently a language called A (without a wiki page) that descends from APL, and was later extended to A+ (which does have a wiki page mentioning this).
kochirakyosuke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes my code won't compile in any compiler
bacondev ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:41:12 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C++ was first implemented as a C preprocessor. Valid C code was 100% valid C++ code. Nowadays, that's of course not so true. Yes, there are significant differences now, but the languages are similar enough that they can still be significantly compared.
So yes, C++ isn't technically a superset of C. But who gives a fuck? Anybody who knows the differences between the languages knows that it's not a big deal to make that statement.
eiusmod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have also seen some C libraries that use
newas a variable name in macros defined in the header file...Garbaz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:07:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not entirely. I were corrected in that regard myself quite recently.
eiusmod ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:25:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how that is relevant.
What does it tell about your C++ skills if you write C++ code in a way that would be valid C code, or even resemble C code? I wouldn't want that guy to be in the same C++ project with me.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:46:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is that every competent C++ programmer can write C without any issues since you won't be able to correctly use RAI etc without properly understanding the underlying memory model in C. Also if you know modern C++ then say C++14.
eiusmod ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct C perhaps, but what about idiomatic C that a C programmer would actually like to see in a C project.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:56:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not, but you would have to learn a new style when you switch job anyway so I don't think that it would take long to adapt. But I definitely wouldn't hire a C++ programmer if I wanted someone to create a C project from scratch.
donjulioanejo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C++14+ to be more accurate.
Silhouette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:38:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's not, as others have pointed out. More importantly, though, they are used very differently in practice. Even 20 years ago, idiomatic C++ didn't look much like C with classes any more, and modern C++ today is probably as big a change again.
Pressondude ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:43:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know what's funny about that? I had a professor specifically tell me to put that down because recruiters probably don't know the difference, and you don't want your resume axed because the recruiter thinks they're the same. Like, I've had recruiters ask me if I know "oracle" or "just SQL" (what even would that be?). So now I put down, "Oracle PL/SQL", and "C/C++" because recruiters are ignorant.
The technical interview will sort out whether I need C or C++ (if the job description didn't). Which brings me to my second laugh on this topic, I almost always see job descriptions with "C/++" or some variation, not "C++" specifically.
jamssey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like your professor was a bit dramatic, and clearly that's rubbed off on you with your blanket statement that "recruiters are ignorant". Seriously? You'll find ignorant people in all professions, including yours. I've worked with some great recruiters, some really shitty ones too, but it's possible there's some out there who have a perfect understanding of what they're looking for
Uhhbysmal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reminds me of this
pm_your_lifehistory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no surprise he no longer worked in industry. I would fire someone who played games with resumes like that.
Its a standard way of writing not a statement on semiotics and language theory.
avaxzat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:53:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C/C++ does exist, though. It's that kind of code where they
#include <iostream>but useprintfinstead ofcoutandmallocinstead ofnew. That shit is much more common than you'd fear.thisisnewt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every C++ compiler has a "C mode" that will compile C.
C++ is very nearly a superset of C. You'll run into some casting errors, some import errors, and maybe some reserved word errors.
gnualmafuerte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all C code compiles as valid CPP, CPP is a superset of C (well, no in the most strict sense, but for most practical purposes). So nothing wrong with saying C/C++.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:29:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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gnualmafuerte ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:33:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C++ is a gargantuan beast, you could have 10 different programs all written in C++ and they could still look vastly different from each other.
My point is that if you're a C++ developer that also has C experience, it's not entirely wrong to write C/C++, and if you're a C developer that has some knowledge of C++, it's not bad to write C/C++ either.
When it comes to a language to C++, it's not like you're gonna take whatever says on the resume at face value, you're gonna have a followup interview anyway.
HessianStatistician ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:28:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But idiomatic C is not a subset of idiomatic C++. "C/C++ programmers" tend to be "C with classes" programmers, and the world already has enough of them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Bobshayd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C/C++ is not terrible. It really ought to refer to experience cross-linking C code with C++ code and working in a legacy C cross C++ environment, which is common enough that it sort of deserves the name, but if you know C++, you mostly know C.
commonplaceperson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's just a visual aid to help them C it.
AladdiX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't C#
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So your say Ing you can't C# (see sharp) /s
aeramor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:39 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C/C++
SirPizzaTheThird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:17 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C/D
Throwandhetookmyback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:36 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In small or mid scale embedded projects I can't think of not getting in experience in something that can be easily called C/C++. It's kind of "C and sometimes a subset of C++ very similar to the old Google C++ standard". There's lots of projects and compilers where only that "old" way of using C++, that's not really very dissimilar to something like C with real macros and dispatch, is the only way available.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:51 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That one is a bit more valid, being that the vast majority of C is valid C++. I will say, however, that when I see that someone claims to know "C/C++", it makes me think that they know how to write C, and they will sometimes spice things up by writing the same damn code but in a .CPP file instead.
Cyrus_Halcyon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:28 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. Really? I'm the minority then because I totally relate C and C++.
Forss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:46 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought C/C++ referred to old, not modern C++.
Choyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah. You did the best comment I read today. I'd like to push your arrow twice.
gt_9000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:38:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C/C++
Java/C#
tamrix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HTML/XML
derleth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I program Java/C# and Haskell/Pascal.
I'm waiting for Java on the CLR. Java#. Sharp Java. Spiked Java. Irish Coffee. Drink Irish Coffee At Work.
Owyn_Merrilin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well how else are you going to hit the Ballmer Peak?
AlternativeHistorian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume you're joking but J# was actually a thing when MS first released the CLR.
WikiTextBot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
J Sharp
Visual J# (pronounced "jay-sharp") programming language was a transitional language for programmers of Java and Visual J++ languages, so they could use their existing knowledge and applications on .NET Framework.
J# worked with Java bytecode as well as source so it could be used to transition applications that used third-party libraries even if their original source code was unavailable. It was developed by the Hyderabad-based Microsoft India Development Center at HITEC City in India.
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HawkinsT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ASM/C#
jack104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:02 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. C# and a little python was what we were taught in college. My first job out of school required writing some C that compiled into unmanaged DLLs for an oracle system. I thought I could just jump right in and write C after just a couple lessons online. Hah. Yea, not quite. I did circle back around and learn but it took me several books, at least 4 weeks (in my downtime at work) and a ridiculous amount of time spent trying to debug a simple doubly linked list implementation.
After getting my bearings a bit, my boss broke down and bought time with a consultant supplied by an oracle partner to come and give us the skinny on coding in this context and, especially, how to use the APIs that were proprietary to oracle but had to be used instead of the good old fashioned C ones (like free was jde_free and memcopy was jde_memcopy, etc.) Well the fella shows up Monday morning, sets up in the conference room and fires up a ppt that had a title slide that read "C/C++ programming for JD Edwards."
My boss was more of an I.T. / Database guy but I was a programmer and I immediately asked the guy if there was. C++ compiler or set of settings that I could set up VS to use myself. I got a bit excited because I knew C++ was a bit closer to my dear C# and it supported classes and inheritance and some more native support for strings and what not.
The dude said no, the two are essentially the same and that C++ code and C code were interchangeable.
I was stymied. Not mad, I actually thought I had just misunderstood something and that this guy was going to make me look really stupid in front of my boss. I pressed him though.
I remotes into a VM that was a windows 7 image they supplied that had an exec that would take your C code and pass it to the VS2010 command line with a crazy amount of switches and params but I knew for a fact that the compiler had a switch setting for C and C code only. And I knew that .CPP files were.....well for C++ and .C for C.
I was becoming a bit more sure of myself and I wasn't trying to be a dick but if we were going to spend our precious remaining funds for the year and spend days in this hot ass conference room, I was going to have my questions answered.
So I showed him the compiler settings and the file extensions for the source and he just kinda shrugged his shoulders and appealed to my boss who tapped me on the shoulder; his way of telling me to not get ahead of myself just yet.
So he tells us that all the native C++ data types have proprietary implementations and all the needed C libs had oracle implementations that were to be used. Math.C was JDE_MATH.C and so on and so forth. Then he spent two hours going over totally legal things to do in C but not to do for this environment as they could "cause problems." He never said what problems but, for example. No use of single line comments and all comments should be multi-like but were to never exceed 80 characters on one line.
All variables must be defined at the top of a function; native type variables before variables of structs.....no variable re-declarations in a loop.......this is just what I can remember and over the 4 hours total that morning, I sat and slowly watched my enthusiasm to finally learn an old school bad ass language like C; I was actually finding out I'd be coding in a wrapper littered memory leak mine field.
I did my best to take detailed notes and get copies of the reference material that you couldn't get for free on Oracle's forums and code samples that used as many of the quirky things he went over as I could. I realized I was fucked unless I bled every ounce of material about C-ish from this guy.
In the end, I performed updates and maintenance to existing code that we had access to but I could not get anything I tried from scratch to compile and work correctly when my boss would deploy it. Finally, I just went around them. I guessed at the password for the SA account for the SQL Server instance that bed rocked this system and I went on a tear building libraries and Wrappers and all kinds of stuff in C# to work directly with SQL Server. I got really good at writing queries and commands and I eventually went on, despite complaints and actual threats of 'voiding our support agreement with Oracle' by touching 'their database' in an unapproved fashion. I went on to actually build a middleware application to facilitate EDI between our team center system and Edwards. Despite being told I was waistline time and effort on what would be a 'sub-par' solution; I demoed it to a room full of co-workers and employees and after the demo, the manager of the consultants pulled me aside and offered me a job on the spot. No shit.
I politely declined. I'm no savant; I was just the only trained engineer working the project but I learned such a lesson at an early age; where there is a will there is a way; if you think ya can; try. You won't always be right but every now and again you might just hit a fuggin home run. That was fun.
C++ my ass.
80025-75540 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
May aswell put Java/JavaScript
alex_116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not C#/Java/JavaScript while you're at it
Mechakoopa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:21:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C#/Java is largely a matter of libraries and syntax. If you knew one and we used the other I wouldn't have too many reservations about hiring you unless that was your only full language. It's not hard to cross train.
KirklandKid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Once you know how to program it's just syntactical sugar"
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... I hesitate to imagine the mind that could make SQL which is just syntactically different from Java.
fedora-tion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah yes, that famous programming language, SQL. Right up there with HTML.
derleth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HTML is a markup format. If SQL isn't a programming language, what is it?
fedora-tion ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:08:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a Query Language. It's in the name. While you CAN technically use loops and logic and variables in it, you generally don't and a competent understanding of it does not require nor grant a competent understanding of programming the way learning the basics of Pascal or C or C++ gives a level of groundwork into the others because you learn the basics of programming logic.
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a "Query Language" is a kind of declarative programming language.
Domain-specific languages are still languages.
fedora-tion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, yes, technically. But I feel it's sort of in that "a tomato is a fruit" category of things that meet the strict requirements but you don't really fit in the category? Like, saying C++ is a superset of C. Sure, TECHNICALLY, but they've diverged significantly.
SQL isn't USED like a programming language and I feel that makes it not really one? I wouldn't call someone who only knew SQL a "programmer" the way I would someone who only knew C
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"C++ is a superset of C" is the opposite of something which is technically true.
It's primarily used by being embedded in some other language, yes. It's a domain-specific language, like regular expressions, and its execution model is declarative instead of procedural. But saying it isn't a programming language at all seems rather arbitrary.
That's because DBA is a separate role. That's more of an artifact of history than something set in stone.
fedora-tion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:55:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have counterarguments but they're SO pedantic that even I hate myself for considering them and there are less pendantic counterarguments to them so I'm gonna drop this and say you're right.
I think of it like the whole "is cereal with milk a soup?" thing. It's very hard to define soup in a way that includes everything we think of as soup and excludes cereal but intuitively, nobody thinks cereal is a soup because we don't use it the same way we use soup. Same with tomatoes and fruits. I wouldn't consider Regular Expressions to be a programming language either (Honestly, I wouldn't consider them a language at all even to the degree SQL is, they're a tool in other languages) for pretty much the same reason. Because you don't write programs with them. I feel to be a programming language, it's primary use needs to be creating programs.
Because I don't think most people who use SQL use it as, or consider it, a programming langauge and because it doesn't use the same fundamental basis of logic as programming langauges I don't think it should be considered one for the purpose of most discussions.
derleth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this is definitely a very pedantic discussion about the definition of a term, and I'm content to leave it at that.
jocamar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A query language?
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is a kind of declarative programming language.
Mechakoopa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd just like to preface this by saying I did read the rest of this thread and I appreciate the fact that this was brought to a reasonable resolution, but ANSI SQL as defined in SQL-86 is defined as a query language and is not Turing complete, which is the generally accepted standard requirement to be considered a programming language. PL/SQL is a programming language, MSSQL is a programming language, hell I'm pretty sure even MySQL is Turing complete. ANSI SQL, though, is not and shouldn't be considered a programming language. Considering I don't know any modern database engines that only use base ANSI SQL the point is probably moot, but that's the only caveat I'd put on it.
derleth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:57:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. I never knew that ANSI SQL wasn't Turing complete.
However, it's possible to imagine things which are undeniably programming languages which are not Turing complete. For example, imagine a language where all programs are guaranteed to terminate: All loops are counted, and the count must be determinable at compile time, and all recursion comes with a limit to recursion depth. (That's... probably simplistic.) But the point is, all programs written in this imaginary language will provably terminate, something which is provably not true of programs written in any Turing complete language. However, we'd consider that language to be, well, a programming language, just a constrained one.
This is a surprisingly foggy semantic field.
Mechakoopa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're the kind of people who get off on weird edge cases and argue about the validity of tabs vs spaces like it's a religious war. For all the logic in our field, I would never expect casual semantics to be consistent across all people.
If it's not a documented ISO standard, it's just an opinion. ;)
derleth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll have to remember that one!
kpthunder ยท 261 points ยท Posted at 15:33:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you talking about? # is just ++ overlapped.
KinOfMany ยท 149 points ยท Posted at 15:35:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aneurysm intensifies
PhilosopherJack ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 15:45:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you trying to kill us all?!
codexcdm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:48:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... you are going to die someday... why not today? /s
PhilosopherJack ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:23:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have 0 problems with dying today
flukus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:55:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you trying to trick the grim reaper into freeing a null pointer?
princetrunks ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 16:40:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the IT recruiter
jack104 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:34 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man. You ain't kidding.
So the client has a job for. SQL developer using JavaScript and ASP. How familiar would you say you are with these technologies? Send me your life story, a doctored resume that mentions these buzzwords so my senior recruiter will say OK. Also, i will need your desired salary range so I can badger you and tell you why you aren't worth that much money. Also, feel free to tell your well qualified friends if you aren't available. Sincerely, name I can't pronounce from Really Rocket Sciency Think Group Sounding Firm backed up by a logo that was made in MS Paint.
Where do you even begin with that. What kind of SQL, MySQL, T-SQL, PL/SQL, another Rush Hour SQL???? It sounds like this is web dev but Good old fashioned JavaScript is a great way to spend weeks building an unmaintainable script base when you shoulda just hiked up your track shorts and let any one of 12 open source libraries do for you in 12 lines. Dammit I should have learned Angular.
And ASP. Is that classic ASP being run on an IBM 386 using Windows Bronze Age Edition and IIS v. -6? Or are we talking ASP .Net? One is VBscript that has no support libraries, no error handling, and absolutely no one wrong answer for every should be simple thing. The other uses HTML, CSS, C# and some wacky ass Razor Scooters to tie your data to controls that will do some pretty serious heavy lifting with little coding needed. But fuck you if you think you've made it because now you have to worry about 8 different app or web configure files that will compile successfully and run in ISS Express just fine. But pick the correct publish profile of the 8 that exist and watch as your publishes fail for hours on end. Yes, you have escaped to the greener, compiled web dev promised land but you now get the never-ending pleasure of pissing your gym shorts and longing for console apps every time you change a config file and Visual Studio loses it's god damned mind. Quickly. Hit revert for the entire solution in source control. Don't be that guy who checks in the non-building build. Actually. Never check in anything; just wait until you've worked for a couple weeks committing only locally. Then do a push and keep all your changes. Fuck it, works on your machine. Then.....I.....uhh......
........maybe I should take a break. Sorry.
princetrunks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:30:59 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, this is insanely accurate.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:08:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mind blown
aiij ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:10:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually 4 of them:
gandhibobandhi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:53:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they're not overlapped though, they're tessellated!
IckGlokmah ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:43:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's 4 small ones or 2 big ones.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I choose a book for reading
Salanmander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:52 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or be a cropped image!
Nipple_Copter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In almost all cases, you want ++C. Does anyone check their disassembly anymore?
Ctrl-Alt-D
SailedBasilisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Besides, how do you not know C#? Everyone uses hashtags nowadays.
bald_cyclist ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 15:06:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh the fancy smarty - :we didn't notice and we wear glasses because we can't C#
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:57:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would make more sense if he wrote C#/Java and even that is a stretch.
with-the-quickness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're more alike than they are different. Plus a lot of programmers who came from a C++ background migrated to C#, not unusual at all.
vanillachai_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could be written that way for the recruiter who most likely doesn't know they are different.
jamssey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It happens constantly:
HTML/CSS C/C++ Cisco/Juniper .Net/C# Java/JavaScript (less so)
Knowing one does not automatically mean you know the other, it's just plain wrong.
DynaTheCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Java/Javascript
woo545 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he doesn't know C ...
ExorXmas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's in the machine learning field. For businesses it's very much preferred not to use any own implementation but use standard libraries.
Nobody expects him to implement a machine learning model in C# or C++ but to use those languages for integrating with legacy or replacing code with implementations in the standard libraries.
kaze0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about Kotlin/Delphi
commit_bat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hence listing both of them?
jonny_wonny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:56 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying I shouldn't refer to myself as an ASM/VBasic developer?
SteeleDynamics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:04 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likewise. CLR versus Native is a big difference as well.
JoniBoni91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:14 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just came to the comments to see if I it's a thing to get annoyed by that, or if I'm the only one.
skeeveholt ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 14:54:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You said hadoop twice."
"I Like hadoop."
"Charming..."
ampersand355 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:49:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blazing Saddles in case anyone is curious.
SaintNewts ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:10:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. One of my favorite movie quotes. Not because I like the thing he says originally, though. I just really appreciate the joke itself. So.. Uh.. +1 I guess because now I have a cleaner replacement. :)
skeeveholt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:13:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I felt like this would be a sub where I wouldn't have to explain the reference.
timetrough ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:11:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a great joke, but would never fly in today's world. Then again, neither would an old lady saying, "up yours, nigger". Even characters intentionally written to be racist/biggotted nowadays won't use racial epithets. Exception: American History X, though that was explicitly about racism is baadd..mmmkay?.
Jchud002 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no one gets this reference...I told you to wash before supper lol
exslash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And for my next impression, Jesse Owens!
Hella_Lugosi ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 16:30:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a Hadooplicate
SwissPatriotRG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadupe
Python4fun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoo-ken
brkello ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 14:40:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why that bugs me so much. I am fine that he put pokemon names in there, but the fact that he has something listed twice makes me think he is a bad hire.
polychronous ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 15:09:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He has a Kafka sticker on his laptop but no Kafka listed on his LinkedIn!
cxm0d ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:02:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why he listed Hadoop twice
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:03:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ConspTheorList ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree.
VacuouslyUntrue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop is also a pokemon
WMZEKE ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So its not the fact that he sounds like an arrogant twerp who thinks hes smarter than some one else just because he's specialized in a different field?
jenesuispasbavard ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 15:26:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of them is a pokemon
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:15:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two, Ditto is there too.
Rathwood ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 17:45:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seven. Ditto, Onyx, Metapod, Feebas, Sawk, Ekans, and Vulpix.
Basic bitch only has two Pokemon from outside of the Kanto dex. What is this guy, a COOLTRAINERโ from around Celadon City? Definitely not Elite 4 material, anyway.
Also, he can only carry six of those because reasons. Better drop the Ditto off in daycare or eat the Feebas.
DuoRame ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 17:56:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx is a programming language. Onix is a pokemon.
Filthy casuals.
Rathwood ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:26:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit! Foiled by spelling differences!!
tourn ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:13:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx was a stone first
Tooluka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sickness must be purged!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:23:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I saw Ekans only looking at it the third time and totally missed Onyx and Vulpix. Sawk and Feebas I didn't recognize from name.
stationhollow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are the only ones outside the kanto dex
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:56:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I know those pokemon when I see them but could not pick them out from name alone.
ReflectiveTeaTowel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, I missed Feebas. I'm a fucking casual :'(
Chevron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure he meant one of the "hadoop"s is a pokemon. It wouldn't make any sense to have meant "One of [the things in the list] is a Pokemon" responding to what he was.
SurlyJason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto
catechlism9854 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Metapod
VinoVeriGeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a full 6 pokemon in that list.
an_actual_human ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:13:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For replication.
ArgonGryphon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:55:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if he meant to put in Hoopa
Aniveon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:01:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a Ditto.
Exemus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Three times if you count the ditto.
HouseAddikt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's his favorite Pokรฉmon.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should be there 3 times
ch-12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dedup Hadoop
HawkinsT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assumed it was also a pokemon.
It-just-is ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he meant... HadooptiDeux
a_username_0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this. I don't know what a Hadoop is, but I do know Metapod.
Metapod, most boring pokemon. Second only to Petrok.
gospelwut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's a replica shard.
iamtheredditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And who the fuck mentions python packages in their resume? Lmfao... I mean if you have experience in python, a company would expect that you could work with pandas or flask... regardless of whether you have experience in those individually. Hella easy to pick up
mobilebloke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I evolved my Hadoop from a hadpo.. hardest evolution ever
3dollarnoodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Data redundancy?
vanaprastha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it said Hardpoop at first
reddit-name-asdfsdsf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But is it a language or a pokemon
orangejuicem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also just "ai"?
Edit: nvm it says h20.ai I thought the period was a comma
bent_my_wookie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He should reduce that.
sfgeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:27 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cat skills.txt | split ',' sort | uniq | join ', '
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:47 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once for the language and once for the Pokรฉmon.
IAmNotMyName ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:40 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He should map reduce his skills.
baubleglue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:03 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Python at least 6
wrik003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:43 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're hired!
CVance1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:05 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He likes hadoop
happysmash27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:44 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A cluster of hadoops!
PushYourPacket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:55 on July 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He should put it in a third time to match how many times Hadoop replicates itself by default.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Calamityclams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's what irked me. I don't need too cocky.
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 14:29:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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JustSayNoToSlogans ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 14:32:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here for Came here for this.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:01:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a sad existence
autovonbismarck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THis should be a bot.
2mnykitehs ยท 4675 points ยท Posted at 14:42:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recruiter jots down: "Not suitable for client facing roles"
jim_trout ยท 1134 points ยท Posted at 14:56:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh jeez, and I like people, especially clients" /s
Todok4 ยท 708 points ยท Posted at 15:08:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"job would be awesome with no budget and no clients"
every dev ever.
nannal ยท 362 points ยท Posted at 15:24:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much all professions
_Aardvark ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 15:42:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Customer conference call?? But I'm not even supposed to be here today!
jcc10 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:12:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And here I would think that it would be fun to watch some customers fucking.
Excrubulent ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:28:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, when one of them turns out to have been dead the whole time it loses its erotic appeal for most.
jcc10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:19 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you the one that killed her?
Excrubulent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:30 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll explain: the movie referred to in the image is Clerks...
Actually I don't have the time right now to fully explain the reference. Anyway, a woman mistakenly has sex with a dead guy in a dark bathroom, and the EMTs that arrive shortly after explain that a body can maintain an erection for hours after death.
kaiserbfc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:32 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly you have more attractive customers than I do.
Shadonovitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:45:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that the point of open source programming though ?
hypercube33 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:21:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No budget you say? Come on down to I-Cant-Afford-to-Pay-You Inc. and we'll have you sit over here.
neurorgasm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:04:06 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why walk when you can click? Just visit their website
diamondflaw ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:07:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All my programming jobs currently have no budget and no clients. Also, I'm not working as a programmer right now.
ImAFiggit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:46:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That seems to be a trend among all project-based careers. Mom was an industrial engineer and those two things were a big part of why she quit her job to be a stay-at-home mother.
VicisSubsisto ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:14:33 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I'm from we call that unemployment.
Hyperman360 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually like my clients a lot more than my boss.
Hydroshock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:26 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well you get no budget with no clients, we call that unemployed.
zarawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like people -and- clients
frequenZphaZe ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 16:45:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
implying a recruiter doesn't indiscriminately jam hundreds of unrelated resumes down the throat of every open position he gets his hands on
senesor ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 18:35:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't. :( I delicately select the tastiest morsels of line caught candidate and serve them on a bed of background information and slightly reasonable salary. <3
lengau ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:16:43 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you recruit for my company? Our current recruiter seems intent on giving in the worst, most unqualified candidates he can find.
senesor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:35:18 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure I can! What do you want? PM me a spec and I'll give you 1 hour of free sourcing. I'll send you LinkedIn profiles of people I think look reasonable. (Unless you have a shite spec. In which case - may smooze have mercy on your souls)
I have time today, my favorite candidate is in final-final-final interview so I need to freak out all day about him.
lengau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:38 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, I don't have a say in who we use, or I'd take you up on it.
Fortunately, I'm only participating in the interviews, not actually doing the hiring.
wllmsaccnt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:36:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell if your last emoji is a heart or lips. Both seem relevant.
Doctorious ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:36:30 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a set of balls
senesor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:36:44 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be my heart being crushed by candidates who don't really love me after all. Could be my balls in a vice cuz of clients arguing about fees. Could be my lips wailing at poorly defined job specs.
gobots4life ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:51:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here, you forgot this >
diamondflaw ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:08:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK, so they output stream hundreds of unrelated resumes down the throat of every open position?
gobots4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:14 on July 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I was just handing him his meme arrow.
skilliard7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:07 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothings worse than recruiters that spam job opportunities out without even looking at profiles, then when you apply, they say "sorry not enough experience".
Like ffs. If I'm not qualified enough by your standards, then don't fucking call me and email me about an "exciting job opportunity". Don't mislead me to believe that your opportunity is a way to get my foot in the door the.
Reddits_Worst_Night ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:23 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you did that, you'd quickly find yourself without any jobs.
shub1000young ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 15:43:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good
antdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bad
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Born_Ruff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being disqualified from a large chunk of available jobs doesn't necessarily make you more likely to get the job you want.
luke_in_the_sky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love the Linkedin section "Featured Skills & Endorsements" where my coworkers can add the skills I have. They have no idea what I do.
WolvesCallum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you use JavaScript for that?..
DrMcClimateChange ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:15:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But really though. What programmer is suitable to ever talk to a client?
I would never put a developer or programmer in front of a client. NEVER.
_greyknight_ ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:43:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not front and center, but you might wanna consider bringing one along every once in a while. Not all of us are one-hit wonder stuttering messes with the hygiene of a sloth.
DrMcClimateChange ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 17:47:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. I mean it.
There's almost never a time when an external client requires or wants the deep level of knowledge that developers/programmers have. Nor am I interested in someone giving away team processes casually because they're just trying to explain a concept or execution.
There are a boatload of reasons you separate your account handling from your productivity teams...whether it's Creative, R&D, or Programming. The client doesn't talk to those brains. The client talks to handlers...aka account managers.
It has nothing to do with the horrible man-baby stereotypes y'all can't shake (because they're actually really true) and has everything to do with protecting the best interests of your business.
DrBookbox ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:03:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah... i mean, i guess every business i've worked in the account manager has needed maybe the team tech lead to come along occasionally as back up to explain some core concepts if the client asks?
DrMcClimateChange ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Arguably you aren't supposed to be in that position.
Without specific context my instinct is every single one of those situations involved regaining the clients trust that had been eroded from poor account handling.
DrBookbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:16 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No... not from a situation of regaining their trust, but because they have an interest in or want to know about the technology from the person doing it on a daily basis. They know it's not black magic
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:20:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta keep those mouth-breathers in the back room amirite
DrMcClimateChange ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:21:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta keep your trade secrets secret.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:53:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're kind of a douchebag
DrMcClimateChange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being a dick doesn't make me wrong.
_greyknight_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:00:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look, let's be realistic here, not every company is a 50+ people operation with rigid lines between all departments and a beehive like caste system. When I say "bring a dev lead along", I'm not saying, that he should lead the communication, or that he should even be a major part in it, but it's always better to get the requirements straight from the horse's mouth. Not every company has the luxury of the overhead of endless back and forths between the client requirements, as communicated back by the "handler", and the dev team telling the handler that x, y and z are out of the question, to have him go back to the client and continue this game of telephone. To add to that, not all devs are made equal, there are lot of schools and programs that put just as much emphasis on the requirements gathering, planning, deployment and maintenance phases, as they do on the raw development part. A developer is not just a "requirements in - code out" machine, or at least, if you're treating them that way, they're underutilized and probably don't feel very engaged with their job.
DrMcClimateChange ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:13:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naw. Now you're talking about yourself from an emotional place.
Separating your productivity from your clients isn't a punishment. It's not a jerk move. It's an honest reality of how an effective business team works. You don't ask your wait staff to cook. Even in pinch because they are not chefs. You don't ask your creatives or programmers anyone outside of the account managers to handle the clients. Thats their job. Don't take someone else's skills away because you feel left out. Realign your own understanding of your responsibilities.
Big or small. Doesn't matter. Let specialists be specialists. Including account managers. They know how to do their job better than you.
Equivalently you don't want sales pretending to be a developer either. Your turf. Their turf. Same team. Same goals. Understand where a person does the best and when....but don't react like this stuff is a personal attack because it isn't.
It's my observations statements and very strong opinions based on experience with what works and what does not work. Take it or leave it.
Ran4 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:40:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lolwat? That's... not at all how many very succesful companies work.
nuker1110 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:32:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you run into Sales writing checks that Dev can't cash.
DrMcClimateChange ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:43:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sales always over promises. Tell me something new.
coltwitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd consider myself suitable for a client facing role. I probably wouldn't take the job, but I could do it
DrMcClimateChange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mentioned this to someone else....but keeping productivity minds away from clients only partially relates to how a developer/programmer sees themselves.
It has much much more to do with what's right for the client conversation, what the client needs to hear, what the client doesn't need to learn...and what knowledge the client did and did not pay for alongside their results.
Thinking you can do a client facing role and actually having skills for speaking with clients and defining success within those conversations are entirely different things.
coltwitch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:04:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can a programmer also develop the skills required to have a coherent and successful conversation with a client?
kenfitonov ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If someone writes clientspeak.js maybe. But then the library will be obsolete in 3 years.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:23:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I do plenty of freelance work and I meet with my own clients regularly. Works better for me because I can get a feel for what they actually want. It saves me time because I'm not guessing and trying to figure out what the client needs and it helps them get exactly what they want faster.
DrMcClimateChange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As much time as it takes to be proficient any any profession really. And you need to practice too.
UK-sHaDoW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering there tons developers which act as a consultants and freelancers proves that these skills are not mutually exclusive...
DrMcClimateChange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not speaking to you, but okay.
aedvocate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:56:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you need to meet some better programmers.
Heat__Death ยท 2930 points ยท Posted at 13:58:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TFW you want to make the list longer, so you just start naming modules that you use.
DeeSnow97 ยท 1536 points ยท Posted at 14:42:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me just dump my package.json on linkedin
-Reddit_Account- ยท 833 points ยท Posted at 14:52:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't put Jason's package on your linkedin
Xoduszero ยท 261 points ยท Posted at 14:55:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
JASON!... JAASSOOONNNN!.... JASON!
sony_boy ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 15:42:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Press X to JASON
SK4T3RG4M3R ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:12:29 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne
ThePhantomBane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
F
serifmasterrace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I
MrMagius ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 15:43:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(X)(X)(X)(X)(X)(X)(X)(X)(X)(X)(X)(X)(X)
Raicuparta ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 16:11:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean SHAAAAAUN
buggy65 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:29:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SHAUN!!!! SHAUN!!!??
KuntStink ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:58:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SSSHHHAAUUNNNN!!!
StupidCreativity ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:19:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant, since Jason is inside of his own package.
tesla1889 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:22:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/itsjasonbourne
DyingStarman ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 15:38:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/itsjsonbourne
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:51:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Gargoyle772 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/itsjasonbourneagainchristian
Gus_Malzahn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LANNNNNAAAAAAA
wutangjan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really glad I'm not the only one that hears that crap in my head every time i see a Json variable.... Damn you Heavy Rain....
bracken752 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You referring to Gorgeous Freeman? O.o as I always thought it was 'Wilson'
HouseAddikt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:24:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, Jason's package was so nice I gave him the job.
jherazob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:16 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With your own hand
drkalmenius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read this as Package.json again and was very confused why you were making this comment. I've been spending too long around npm
melodamyte ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:57:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We could even add vim, cd, cp, cat....
OfekA ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 16:26:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me just dump
npm installoutputLater that day, "Wow, you're familiar with the is_array framework?"
AUTplayed ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:04:51 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why would someone need a is_array module?? thats 1 line of code!
OfekA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:24 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something something older browsers
AUTplayed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:00 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
D:
escape_character ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imma put my brew list on there
[deleted] ยท 796 points ยท Posted at 15:17:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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p9k ยท 430 points ยท Posted at 15:23:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"printf, vprintf, fprintf, vfprintf, sprintf, snprintf, vsprintf, vsnprintf"
optimal_substructure ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 15:32:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Keyboards: Blue, Brown, and Clear switches'
Yarthkins ยท 323 points ยท Posted at 15:59:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me: I have 20 years of experience with the E key, and always correctly press ~ on my first attempt.
Interviewer: What would you say your weaknesses are?
Me: Definitely the Num Lock key.
Piroca22 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:20:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try doing that with a spanish keyboard, that would actually be something.
zanotam ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:52:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I use a macbook: no numlock key to trip me up.
MrGreggle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scroll Lock is much trickier.
P-01S ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:54:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would not hire someone with experience in blues but not browns...
Unless it was a telecommute only position.
CptSpockCptSpock ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:08:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a few moments to talk about our lord and savior beamspring worth solenoid?
Ph0X ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 16:25:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CMP, JMP, MOV, XOR, ADD, DEC, and a lot of experience with NOP.
Asraelite ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:11:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Extensive knowledge of the 1 bit.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:04:23 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It accounts for approximately 50% of the binary numbers I use.
p9k ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:13:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant Coursework:
ECE467: Little-Endian Computer Architecture
ECE468: Big-Endian Computer Architecture
ECE473: History of Metasyntactic Variables
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my entire adult life has been one big NOP :)
ajbpresidente ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3 years experience with >> and <<
brokedown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our client requires at least 10 years experience with JSR and CLS.
danieltobey ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:38:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the TCHAR, wchar_t, and safe variants.
Mister-Jackpots ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:05:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds silly, but I have literally been asked which Excel functions I know in an interview. Not what kind of work, but exactly what functions. I eventually mentioned vlookup, which was what they wanted. Similar experience on another occasion with SAS procedures.
AdamAnderson320 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:43:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Emails. Um, sending emails, receiving emails... deleting emails. The mouse. Clicking, double clicking... I could go on.
BenedictKhanberbatch ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:25:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need to update my resume lmao
DeCiB3l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:36 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could understand putting "vlookup" in addition to Excel. To show that you actually can use it, rather them most people know how to type data into a cell and put Excel on there.
overactor ยท 281 points ยท Posted at 15:17:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet C# and C++ are one item.
2/10 would not hire
skylarmt ยท -37 points ยท Posted at 15:34:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C# is basically just a Java clone.
Roci89 ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 15:44:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A better than Java Java clone
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 15:56:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think of C# as an improved version of Java.
danny_onteca ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:19:03 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Java++
grundo1561 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:02:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could literally microwave diarrhea and it would be a better than Java Java clone.
Fiend ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:07:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sentence started so good and then a stroke happened.
efc4817 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:46:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are fighting words
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:18 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would be a Java clone if Java was any good.
kanuut ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 14:50:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I just corrupt a file and use the packets listed in the exception?
Heat__Death ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 15:08:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you're already causing error messages, why not just say that you're an Error Extraction Engineer who is qualified to remove theses errors: <big list of all the error messages you can get>
kanuut ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 15:09:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then delete the whole list halfway through the interview to show I can remove them?
OGUncleBubba ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 15:28:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"See? GONE."
wutangjan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a great story about one of those scammers.... This is a good place for it no? An "accented" gentleman calling himself Steve calls me on my lunch break. I like messing with "the windows" when they call me or my customers, so I played along with the guy while I had a burrito, acting like I was in front of an XP machine. He sounded kind of unenthusiastic to have caught someone, so about the time he tries to make me open a remote session I start asking him personal questions.... Nothing descriptive, just asking about his week, the weather, and so on. I ask him, "you doing OK buddy? You sound like you've seen a ghost!" and he says "Yeah not really, I'm kind of sad." So i'm like, "what's up dude? Talk to me..." And before you know it he's telling me all about how his girlfriend broke up with him and he failed a test at school and is just tired of it all. So I told him maybe he should try doing something nice for someone, maybe it would help him feel better. "Steve you're a smart guy, I'm sure you'll find someone else!"
THEN the dude starts crying, says he's really sorry about trying to trick me, and makes sure I know not to fall for it if anyone else calls.
Slam-fucking-dunk boys.
MauranKilom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We've got the biggest errors, believe me!"
FlowersOfSin ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 15:33:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should put Reddit on my linkedin profile considering how much time I spent on Reddit at work.
Heat__Death ยท 155 points ยท Posted at 15:40:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feel free to use one or more of these. Any other suggestions appreciated.
FlowersOfSin ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 15:44:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer to call myself a Compile Time Usage Specialist.
jameskxvil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ispamucry ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:53:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh you worked at reddit?"
"No, I reddit at work."
Nipple_Copter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:56:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CNN will hire you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish there were jobs that require Reddit experience or something of the like. I'm similar too.
Asnen ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 15:21:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
>working on production environment
>check broker see showel to another cluster
>gotta find out which one
>the showel goes through HAProxy
>there must be some kind of config in here
>found something .conf file in directory conf
>by the name of certain field guess its the correct proxy direction
>open your profile on linkedin
>add HAProxy to competences
>continue working
FTFY
Jafit ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:36:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a fair tactic since recruiters are basically playing keyword bingo, and writing job descriptions that no living human can hope to actually meet the requirements for.
dumbrich23 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:19:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Fuck keyword scanners and lazy inept HR dependents
flying-sheep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense.
Programming R is quite different from programming R with all the hadleyverse stuff.
You gain quite a bit of functional style and expressiveness.
And listing pandas+scipy+sklearn means you're a data scientist with machine learning experience
ebrious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:41 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also tensorflow and keras!
EliteCaptainShell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:29:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or repeat Hadoop.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2580374 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I was about to ask about that. I'm about to graduate, should I honestly put python and shit like openpyxl
kare_kano ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that's what you know, sure. Python definitely, and throw in some modules if that's all you got. You never know when someone actually competent will look at your profile.
GoingInsaneInCLT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or list hadoop twice.
hyperfocus_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I am irrationally annoyed by this...
r0botdevil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:46 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was about to ask if it was normal to list individual R packages you have experience with on your CV...
HessianStatistician ยท 1392 points ยท Posted at 15:09:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"C/C++" is a pet peeve of mine, but "C#/C++" is a whole other level of wrong.
"You know C#?"
"Yeah. Well...C++. Same thing, right?"
GiraffixCard ยท 929 points ยท Posted at 15:33:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at an indie gamedev company and back when I was doing the interview I asked which programming language they used.
I was told they use C++.
They use Unity3D and C#..
iFreilicht ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 17:09:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I legit thought # was two intertwined + like ยง is two intertwined S. Luckily I was 10 at the time.
[deleted] ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 18:26:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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iFreilicht ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:44:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is indeed what it actual origin was.
WikiTextBot ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:45:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Section sign
The section sign (Unicode U+00A7 ยง Section sign, HTML ยง, TeX \S) is a typographical character used mainly to refer to a particular section of a document, such as a legal code. It is also called "double S" and "sectional symbol".
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CreideikiVAX ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:44:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, Simoleon sign is different than the section symbol.
Simoleons are an S with a circle in the middle of it. Section sybol is two stacked S's, hence why the loop in the middle isn't perfectly circular.
lingual_panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:55 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sims fan here. I'm nodding approvingly.
JamesRustleford ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:33:44 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that sounds like a Pokemon.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:43:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the "#" in C# was supposed to represent C++++
iFreilicht ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:34:39 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
IHateRoundDoorKnobs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:45:56 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This stack overflow thread has a few sources. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1991345/origin-of-the-c-sharp-language-name
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:24 on July 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the SO post:
..."So the naming committee had to get to work and we sort of liked the notion of having an inherent reference to C in there, and a little word play on C++, as you can sort of view the sharp sign as four pluses, so itโs C++++. And the musical aspect was interesting too. So C# it was, and Iโve actually been really happy with that name. Itโs served us well."
-Anders Hejlsberg
TehAbstraCt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:00:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought C# and C-sharp are two different languages, fuck me right?
Dank-Parrot ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:03:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"C-Hashtag"
Rynyl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:58:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"C-Pound" as it was originally called
nevdka ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:33:22 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cยฃ
shtpst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:42 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the British English spelling.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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iFreilicht ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yes, because if you assume # and ++ are the same thing, just written out differently, you'd then go on to assume that C++ and C# are the same language.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:42:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you resize the two pluses in a certain way you can make a # out of just 2
lingual_panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:10 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought C++ was written C# when I was dating a software developer at age 19. I'd never heard of C-sharp outside a musical context and I thought it was just nerds being weird.
This is long before I knew what a programming language was.
Hexidian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:04 on August 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just two "++"s on top of each other. I think that's on purpose just like C++ is incrementing the variable C
segfraud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:17 on August 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same for me. I wanted to start learning C++ and ended up using C#...
Rinx ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 16:45:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unity compiles into native now... So almost?
Sydonai ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:17:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From experience? No, not even close.
[deleted] ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 16:51:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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flyingjam ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 17:13:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unity docs are much, much better than UE4. UE4 docs for c++ are awful, it's treated like a second class citizen compared to their visual programming language, blueprints. This is especially bad considering all the macros and the optional GC make UE4 c++ look markedly different from ordinary c++.
JorjEade ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:33:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've recently been introduced to C++ via UE4. I feel I've been given a bad first impression.
Mortichar ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:44:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you learn C++ by learning UE4, you're learning UE4, not C++. You probably won't know how to function without the engine. At least that's been my experience with people who've never touched C++ outside of unreal.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:07 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm familiar with C++ at a beginner to intermediate level. UE4 uses a lot of things you wouldn't learn in a classroom, but are not rare in a professional environment. For students, seriously keep out.
Tuxiak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a bit surprised by it too, because they do live streams, release guides etc., so it's not like they don't care. It's not the first time I've heard this opinion either (and I thought the same after trying it out), so I wonder why they won't prioritize it more.
fuckerlips ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's basically industry standard.
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0x2F40 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:00:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unity is very popular in the "indie-sphere". UE4 is popular as well but the royalties/pricing of the two seems to attract a lot of smaller studios to Unity first.
Big AAA studios are more likely to use their own in house engine or Unreal. Not many big AAA titles use Unity.
Acheroni ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:16:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell if a lot of projects used Unity because it has a Unity feel, but there are some really high budget Unity games. Hearthstone for example.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:50:56 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unity feel is only valid if you use assets from the store or bundled in with the engine. If you script your gameplay and shaders from the ground up then there won't be any "unity feel".
This is honestly just a product of low effort indie dev and asset flip. Serious indies and bigger studios use Unity properly. If the devs hadn't said it, you would never know Hearthstone was made in Unity.
zial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:32 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hearthstone wasn't really high budget though it was made by like 15 people in the beginning. Granted it's now huge because of the success but in the beginning was very very small.
skreczok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:55 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It certainly helps that it has Blizzard behind it. They have massive marketing powers with relatively little added cost.
GiraffixCard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:19 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm perhaps of a more controversial opinion. I don't like it much, because
I prefer Godot Engine for my own projects. It solves all of the above problems for me.
tetramir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:27 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a non professional, unity is a ton of fun to use, it's incredibly easy to setup a prototype and the doc/ community is huge
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tetramir ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:56 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me it was the exact opposite, Unity gives you an empty canvas, and it's easier for me: baby steps discovering one thing at a time.
But UE4 they give you a scene with tons of stuffs, I wasn't sure where to start! As for the language, if you know C++, C# really shouldn't be hard.
immanewb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did the game turn out?
GiraffixCard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:36:36 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still brewing. Their first game sucked and has terrible reviews on steam. They launched it in a bad state and abandoned it because of how unmaintainable the code was. I never saw the code and they won't show it to me for some reason, but I'm not sure how much worse than the current project it could be.
They expect to launch early access in under two months and.. I have voiced my concerns. I'm sure they will learn though. We're still young and small.
temporalpair-o-sox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's C++? Is that the same programming language as C = C + 1?
ka-knife ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. C++ is inherently faster
HessianStatistician ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:27:39 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not as fast as ++C.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if that's worse than getting hired for an AngularJS job and then being told you had to learn Adobe Experience Manager
Alekzcb ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 15:38:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the new Java/Javascript
AGGRESSIVESHEPHERD ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:42:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still don't know the difference of that either
crest456 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? Really?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:02:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm not a developer but I heard a coworker say "I can probably do javascript, I learned some java in college and javascript is basically an easier version of java."
Was a huge wtf moment
LucyBowels ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:22:41 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a coworker in QA tell me he's excited for me to teach him Nightwatch.js and that Javascript should come to him quickly since he "took a Java course ten years ago in college."
AncileBooster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
JavaScript is what you use for Google Docs. Java is a pile of sticks that makes no sense.
gonengazit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:47:04 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am trying to get into a gifted stunners program and yesterday we answered a questionnaire. One of the questions was if you know programming and multiple answers, one of which was java. a kid asked "is java JavaScript?" To which the teacher answered "yes".
euphomptus ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 17:09:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TomatoFriesLAN ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:39:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bโฏโฏ
docdude110 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:57:58 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an actual symbol for double sharp in music, I think it's an x or something
TomatoFriesLAN ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:01:24 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, it's in Unicode at 1D12A, but I'm pretty sure most people's computers won't be able to display it. My iPhone can't.
Anyway, here it is: ๐ช
ELFAHBEHT_SOOP ยท 292 points ยท Posted at 15:40:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C/C++ is fine imo. They are pretty closely related, but I can see the frustration.
C#/C++ is like wtf. Pls leave.
nochangelinghere ยท 308 points ยท Posted at 16:13:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I program in C/D ROM
ELFAHBEHT_SOOP ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 16:19:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I program betamax, come at me.
Preparingtocode ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:57:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well, I can make ringtones on my Nokia and my dads TV is bigger than your dads TV. So there!
ELFAHBEHT_SOOP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nuh uh!
Pizzapastaagain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I program Amiga AMOS
kavisiegel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:25:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need you to sit down and reflect on what you've just done
Silhouette ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:44:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would, but I've got a drink and it seems like modern computers don't come with cup holders any more.
lingual_panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:37 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My best friend's dad actually wrote a lot of the Blu-ray code at Sony. They were literally programming in Blu-ray. Kinda.
danny_onteca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:58 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I program in PC
OreoDrinker ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 16:34:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Forth/Fortran
DoYouLike_Sand_AsIDo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:56:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
treerabbit23 ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 17:06:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Java/Javascript
KsanterX ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:08:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually don't mind all these combos but this one triggers even me.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:13:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:48:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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wutangjan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:08:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see I'm the odd man out here, but C# and C++ are at least both Object-Oriented languages. Using the forward slash to combine them could imply that you generally use "one or the other" which I believe is more common (and useful) with C# and C++ than with C and C++ since there's alot of overlap between them. C# is high level, c++ and C are both (by today's standards) lower level languages.
ELFAHBEHT_SOOP ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:52:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. Using the slash implies that they are pretty much the same thing. That's why it's used between C/C++, because C++ is essentially just C with classes.
It'd be even more accurate to say Java/C# than it would to say C#/C++. However, that would still be a bit weird, because C# wasn't adapted out of Java. It was created as an alternative, not an expansion. If you wanted to, you could write some C code and compile it with a C++ compiler. This is a relationship that doesn't exist between C++ and C#. Instead of the slash saying "one or the other", in my opinion it means something like "at the same time".
If you use both languages, I'd prefer that you list both of them instead of trying to combine them with a slash.
Either way, arguing about it for too long would get quite petty.
wutangjan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think we can disagree on this point and still join forces to fight off an alien invasion. Human fist bump.
KickMeElmo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:17:34 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only program in C+.
SailedBasilisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I program in C/D/I/J/K/M/R/brainfuck/////;#+/><>/V
TomatoFriesLAN ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 15:36:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
someone should make a language and call it Cโฏ/C++
edit: # โก๏ธ โฏ
poed2 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 16:17:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My specialties are C#/C++/C#/C++
chooxy ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 16:15:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
#coding #C #C# #C++ #C#/C++
MauranKilom ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:29:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about Cโญ?
TomatoFriesLAN ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:35:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cโญ
WikiTextBot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B (programming language)
B is a programming language developed at Bell Labs circa 1969. It is the work of Ken Thompson with Dennis Ritchie.
B was derived from BCPL, and its name may be a contraction of BCPL. Thompson's coworker Dennis Ritchie speculated that the name might be based on Bon, an earlier, but unrelated, programming language that Thompson designed for use on Multics.
B was designed for recursive, non-numeric, machine independent applications, such as system and language software.
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maurycy0 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:53:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally ungooglable!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:08:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TomatoFriesLAN ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:09:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
of course that's a thing
MauranKilom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:31:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But are they actually enharmonic languages? This depends on your temperament!
HolyGarbage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like CLR?
b93b3de72036584e4054 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've written a dll that expose C++ classes as CLR code to be used in a C# GUI : does that count as C#/C++ ?
More info on that : Linking native C++ into C# applications
lingual_panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:39 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg there's a separate character for musical sharps. I guess I knew that cause I've seen the flat character, but woah.
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[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:24:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"ActionScript/Malbolge"
Same thing right?
gabeiscool2002 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:38:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Python/HTML
Same thing right?
AnAwesomeMiner ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:13:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smalltalk/Assembly
kare_kano ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well add Tetanus.
Norci ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:46:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it, what's the issue if they know both?
E: I get it, thanks.
Mordisquitos ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 15:56:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like saying they speak English, Chinese, Spanish/Italian, and French
P-01S ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 15:58:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mandarin/Cantonese.
magnora7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:32 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cantonese/Japanese
wutangjan ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:12:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HMMMM!!!! The slash implies a "one or the other" relationship in your example! This enforces my belief that C#/C++ makes more sense than C/C++ since they are less related and more independently useful.
OK I'll get off my soapbox.
eliquy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:16:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It implies they are equivalent. Just like everyone else is saying.
Norci ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:01:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering that the lexical similarity between Spanish and Italian is estimated at 82%, I think that analogy kinda bit you in the ass.
Mordisquitos ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 16:11:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering that I am a native Spanish speaker, I think I am well aware of their level of similarity. What's more, I bet my choice of analogy was intentional. Think about it.
Norci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then, considering how similar they supposedly are, I don't see the issue. Btw, how's your Italian?
Mordisquitos ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:21:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can partially understand Italian and I can get an Italian to understand me. I could learn it very quickly if immersed, and would find it much easier than someone who didn't speak a Latin language.
That doesn't mean I can write in it, speak it, nor read a novel in Italian. I would not list it in my CV, and if I did I would list it separately from Spanish. Because they are different languages.
Norci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but I am assuming that if you write C#/C++, it means you actually know both and it's just matter of whether it makes sense to group them with a slash.
If you actually don't know one, but think you can do it just because you know the other, that's an entirely different deal.
I was of mindset we discussed first scenario, not the second.
Mordisquitos ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:42:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point is that grouping with a slash implies two extremely close variants of the same thing or one being a superset of the other.
Spanish/Castilian, Catalan/Valencian, Serbian/Croatian, Quรฉbequois/Standard French all arguably make sense. So would, as far as I know, C/C++, Python 2/3, Octave/MATLAB, HTML/XHTML etc.
Speaking for myself, if someone listed Spanish/Italian as one language they spoke in a comma separated list, I would immediately assume that they speak neither of them to a sufficient level to even tell them apart. That is not a good sign, and would not hire them for a job that required either of them.
Norci ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:52:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, makes sense. Thanks!
Blackultra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. No one is arguing that they are extremely different, it's just that they are different enough that it's weird and wrong to interchange them.
Like I am an illustrator and Photoshop wiz but I won't put inkscape and gimp on my resume. I could probably learn the ins and outs based on my knowledge of the former, but I'm hardly fluent with the latter
datarancher ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:21:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get a C++ compiler to correctly process (nearly) any C code, but the "styles" are totally different. I'd expect to see a lot of raw pointers and bare structs in a C program, but classes, smart_ptr, and all that jazz in C++.
Similarly, I'd imagine that a Spanish speaker could probably get their point across to an Italian, but the style would be totally bizarre.
ZeldaZealot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work with an Italian woman. She told me that she could usually understand most of what the Hispanic families in our store were saying, but it was like listening to an unusual dialect.
Purehappiness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the end of the day, if you can use one, you can probably get by with the other, but you're not going to be amazing at it, making it a very apt comparison.
nemetroid ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:12:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The lexical similarity between Swedish and Danish is probably even higher, but you wouldn't hire someone who reports proficiency in Swedish/Danish. You'd report them to the police.
Norci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know Skรฅnska is kinda odd, but calling it Danish is bit extreme, no?
Pycharming ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:54:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but French is on the list and has 89% similarity with Italian. All three are considered "partially mutually intelligible", but being able to somewhat understand a language is not the same as speaking...especially if you're trying to get a job that requires it.
zoidberg_42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Italian, is in fact, Spanish/Italian, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Spanish plus Italian....
with-the-quickness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a bad analogy, Spanish and Italian share many of the same words such that a speaker of one can usually understand the other.
Pathrazer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, Spanish and Italian are close enough. If a speaker of one of those languages was to squint hard enough at the other, they could comprehend at least 80% of it and make informed guesses for the remaining 20%.
giver_of_the_snark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ehh that's not nearly triggering enough
Spanish/Portugese, though...
happysmash27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:28 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know Spanish and Italian were that different. Do you have a more obvious example?
Mordisquitos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:44 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately there are not that many extant languages at a similar distance from English to make a fair comparison. There's English and Scots (not to be confused with Scottish English or Scots Gaelic), but Spanish and Italian are somewhat more different.
An English speaker would probably find little difficulty in understanding the Scots Wikipedia, but wouldn't know where to start if they wanted to write or say something in Scots. Understanding spoken Scots is probably easier for English speakers who have been exposed to Scottish accents than for those who haven't. Here are two examples:
jaltair9 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:08:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The slash implies that they are very similar and can be treated as a pair. However those two languages are very different.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:00:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They didn't put a comma in between them. The slash implies that they are the same or extremely similar.
HowRiskyIsDatClick ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:27:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C/CSS
heydabop ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:56:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like saying C#/Java would somehow be more appropriate.
MorningWoodyWilson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like even c#/python would be more appropriate.
urmyheartBeatStopR ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:09:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pet peeve of my friend was one time when one classmate corrected his pronunciation of C++.
"You're saying it wrong, it's actually C double pluses." In the smug ass voice, my friend imitate it and it sounded like the grey pourpon sauce commercial.
My buddy wanted to punch him in the face.
UCI doesn't teach C++ as a first language (it's java), optional if you take computer graphic. Which he did and I have no fucking clue why but there are a lot of people in CS where they will lie to you about their knowledge.
HessianStatistician ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get me started on the S-Q-L vs. sequel people. Say it however you want, and don't smugly assume everyone else is tech-ignorant.
Well, unless you call it "squeel." I might take issue with that.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:42:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah ... 220, 221. Whatever it takes."
zacker150 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, they could be an expert in p/invoke or CLR.
hadtoupvotethat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess "C#/C++" could mean they've written something mostly in C#, but with some managed C++ mixed in... but yeah, much more likely they just don't know what they're talking about.
zyxzevn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C@/C++
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MoltenVoltage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C++ is a double augmented, while C# is just a half-step above C natural.
bored_oh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:31 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean if you have half a brain and can manage memory/aren't afraid of references, they're the same. Started with c#, picked up c++ fairly quickly
Wilson_loop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:40 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How different is C++ and C#? I know C++ and I'd like to get into C#.
TheBullshitPatrol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:23 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
zero relationship whatsoever.
c# is meme java.
sailor_sega_saturn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:50 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned C and C++ from Jamsa's C/C++/C# Programmer's Bible. That ill-fated tome does not lead to C/C++/C# salvation, but instead will lead you down a dark path with no escape.
squrr1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:35 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yeah C# == C++++. Pretty much the same thing.
TK-427 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know
C.{0,4}. I also know regexb4ux1t3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be .Net.
tekanet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:07 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some says that C# is C++++ with the four + forming the #
szymonwalle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:59 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scratch/ASM
Same thing, right?
SleepyBrain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:09:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really depends. My first job out of college, the legacy part of the application was a C++ app but the newer apps were using C#, so on your resume you'd either put C++, C#, or maybe just C++/C# if you really needed one less space.
with-the-quickness ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:06:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why so many of these quibbling replies? They are much more alike than they are dissimilar. Plus a ton of programmers who started out with C++ migrated into C#, that's how I read it.
tomthecool ยท 3126 points ยท Posted at 14:01:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it Pokemon or Big Data?
Edit: In case it gets the reddit hug of death again, here's another one. Thanks, /u/Sti2nd
mythriz ยท 2180 points ยท Posted at 14:24:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
> answer first question
> wrong answer
> ragequit
Seradwen ยท 1165 points ยท Posted at 14:26:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't just
AvaluggCrebase. There was aStaraviaMokubird later on too.I am 90% salt right now.
VanWesley ยท 295 points ยท Posted at 15:09:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should sneak in some Japanese names of the technologies to make it even.
Me4Prez ยท 279 points ยท Posted at 14:31:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, what the hell...
askmeforbunnypics ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 15:46:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got that Mokubird one right, but only because I guessed that it was a Pokemon for having 'bird' in the name. Then the next question proceeded to fuck me.
Bobshayd ยท 161 points ยท Posted at 16:19:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Summingbird" right after "Mokubird" was too convenient, and I guessed it was a clever play on being fast and doing computations. I got lucky.
askmeforbunnypics ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:25:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I shoulda seen it coming.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:02:05 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to look this one up. Apparently mukubird is Japanese for staravia and so is crebase for avalugg? That's some straight hot garbage bullshit, I'm fucking salty
capcom1116 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:13:17 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got screwed because not all of those names are the American localizations. "Mukubird" is Staravia in the US.
Photon137 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:53:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. I was confused as shit.
datfredburger ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:07:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got Crebase wrong first as well. I was like what the hell is that?! There's too many to memorize now!
DirtyDan257 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:23:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was kind of an unfair question. Crebasse and Mukubird are the Japanese names. The English names for those two are Avalugg and Staravia although if you don't know Pokemon it probably doesn't make much of a difference.
Polzemanden ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:27:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't actually remember the name of Avalugg (most forgettable Pokรฉmon of gen 6 apparently) so I just thought Crebase was the name of it.
Then Mokubird showed Staravia and I rage quit.
dichloroethane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:51:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't play NFE on Smogon so fuck this quiz
MrTripl3M ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:03:28 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the first one wrong and my brain switched instantly into "Fuck that guy, loading foreign pokemon names."
JesusKristo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:32 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was pretty pissed that they did non-english names in the english language quiz. :|
nickmichaelson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude i got samesies
Rathwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:27 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You Genesis 19:26'd?
[deleted] ยท 283 points ยท Posted at 14:35:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crebase is the Japanese name.
mythriz ยท 426 points ยท Posted at 14:46:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I'm tempted to call this cheating, I guess this means that the test is testing your Big Data knowledge more than your Pokemon knowledge... (I know almost nothing about Big Data tbh.)
TheoHooke ยท 261 points ยท Posted at 14:58:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, Staravia is only Mukubird in Japanese and Mandarin. If the test is in English, the questions should probably be as well. Especially when you consider that there are a finite number of pokemon but a constantly evolving number of big data utilities.
Brekkjern ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 15:04:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A long time ago when I grew up, there were only 151 pokemon. Considering evolving is the signature move of Pokemon, I respectfully disagree with your assertion.
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 16:53:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, signature moves are different from evolving.
Maccaisgod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatsthejoke.jpg
image_linker_bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:44:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dontayy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:01:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No idea if youre joking but there are almost 1000 pokemon now. Every generation added about 100 new ones
jetpacktuxedo ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 15:08:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They add ~100 more Pokemon every release, I don't think the growth rate of the total number of Pokemon is that much lower than big data companies.
KBKarma ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:45:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be specific...
There were 151 original Pokรฉmon. Gen II added exactly 100. Gen III added 135. Gen IV (the gen I really started with) added 107. Gen V added 156. Gen VI only added 72, while Gen VII only added 81. Bringing us to a grand total of 802. On average, they add ~115 Pokรฉmon per gen. Which is probably why they started introducing Mega Evolutions and formes - because if they add more Pokรฉmon, people will get too afraid to try and collect them all.
Unless they're total NEEEEEERDS.
mythriz ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:02:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh well, can't help it then, bring out the pitchforks! Who made this quiz! Is it you /u/tomthecool??
PacoTaco321 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:09:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pokemon are not finite, especially since that first on is not in any of the first few generations.
slowest_hour ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Avalugg is gen 5, in fact, iirc
woofle07 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:38:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Avalugg is gen 6
slowest_hour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:45:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, haha should have tried to remember if there was a pixel art version of it
TheoHooke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pokemon are finite. There's 900 or so, but you can quite easily make a definitive list of all the (official) pokemon that exist at any given time. Without some degree of supernatural knowledge it is impossible to list conclusively all the big data companies in the world since they change in real time.
PacoTaco321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are 900, until they make more
pf2- ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 14:41:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why mix the 2 ...
AATroop ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 14:47:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, just did the same thing. Damn, thought I knew my pokemon better.
Master_Tallness ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 14:59:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the Japanese name for Avalugg, so don't feel bad.
DolitehGreat ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:10:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still wouldn't have gotten it. Anything Gen 4 (mostly Gen 4 since I never played it) and up I'm pretty shit at.
bandersnatchh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:27:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, Anything past Gen 2
DolitehGreat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:55:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gen 3 was probably my second most played. I killed the battery in my Silver cartridge well before the mass dying period.
bandersnatchh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:57:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait is silver and gold gen 3?
I thought that was gen 2?
DolitehGreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:07:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Silver and Gold are Gen 2. I was implying (unclearly) that Gen 2 was my most played.
bandersnatchh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh I'm an idiot
DolitehGreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, like I said, I wasn't very clear about that.
cATSup24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I'm even a little shaky on Gen 2 at that. Gen 1 master race
Edit: some butthurt motherfuckers in here because I said something facetiously...
unrelevant_user_name ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:07:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filthy Genwunner.
T-A-W_Byzantine ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:02:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad you're proud of not knowing things.
woofle07 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:42:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it. Like, you enjoyed Pokemon when it was popular and you were a kid, and then you lost interest in it. That's fine. But it makes no sense to be proud of that fact. It's like saying "I only read the first Harry Potter book. Everything after the Sorcerer's Stone is stupid. Book one master race!"
slowest_hour ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:16:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basically the same as people who are proud they don't read books smh
CreideikiVAX ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:41:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually if you look at the design documents, you'll see that Gen 2 is the "correct" one, since all of the original 190 Pokรฉmon are in it. Shigeki Morimoto himself confirmed that there was originally going to be 190 Pokรฉmon. But limitations meant they had to rip out several to make the games work (and come out on time). Plus the anime gave us glimpses at generation II 'mons in the first season (like Ho-Oh appearing in the very first episode, or Togepi); additionally there's conjecture that several of the plots for anime episodes were reworked to not show Gen II mons; for example EP013 "Mystery at the Lighthouse" was reworked to feature Dragonite (a giant one). With many characters calling it an "unknown" Pokรฉmon never seen before. Yeah, that was supposed to feature Lugia, not Dragonite (and the plot makes a tonne more sense with a Lugia). Fortunately, we got a movie featureing Best Burddragonwhale instead, so no real complaints from me.
cATSup24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:18 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just joking about Gen 1 master race, but that's neat. Too bad I never watched the show...
Cheesemacher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've played gen 2 and 4 games, but still I couldn't name most of the Pokemon from those sets. But I'll never forget the first 151. I think that's true for most people in their late 20s who played Pokemon as a kid. There was just such a long time when the games, the anime, the merch, the trading cards focused on just the first gen.
1sagas1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You fucking hipsters...
cATSup24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:50 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except I was alive and playing it during that time. I didn't jump the bandwagon of ort because it's cool or ironic or whatever.
racc8290 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason the Japanese name makes more sense since it's literally just "crevice"
Guinness2702 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 15:17:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got as far as
before ragequitting.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:24:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just did exactly the same.
Crebase just really sounds like some bullshit startup.
dawnphoenix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:49:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just did it and then saw this comment. Now I feel guilty.
MauranKilom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:17:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually learned that my intuition about what is pokemon and what is big data is exactly wrong. I managed to get 100% incorrect...
robophile-ta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:40:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recognised Staravia, but then I found out that the quiz uses the Japanese names for 'Crebase' and 'Mokubird'. Mad.
PurplePickel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feelsgoodman.pkmanz
PokemonMasterAMA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same ๐
MisterBroda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's no help that I never played a Pokemon game in english. Damn, no chance of making a reference..
Funny/Salty quiz though
DirtyDan257 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:28:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They actually used the Japanese names for some of the Pokemon.
theoreticalpanda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't played a Pokemon game since 2nd gen. I scored horribly...
rftaylor26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Including the Japanese names for Pokรฉmon is bullshit, especially when all the company names are in english
lymn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:18:20 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol it took me until 5 to get one right
randomsnark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:44:19 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a moment after I clicked "Continue" on Hadoop I second-guessed myself, because the Hadoop logo it popped up totally looks like a pokemon.
Mike-Oxenfire ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 15:41:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ded
[deleted] ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 15:10:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another one that isn't currently unavailable https://pixelastic.github.io/pokemonorbigdata/
Also, even if I have basic knowledge about each subject this is really hard!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:23:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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aykcak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:03:13 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it uses all the goddamn Pokemon, so if you are short on anything past 2nd generation, you are fucked.
captionquirk ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 15:25:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm changing my LC lineup immediately
Korameir ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:09:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as a competitive pokemon player, i was honestly surprised at how accurate that is lol
TheMinecraft13 ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 16:30:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using Japanese names of Pokemon is cheating
SirIndianaJones ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:58:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah especially because Azurill is there in the English name instead of Japanese. Why mix them?
undergroundmonorail ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:00 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that's why I got those wrong! It kept telling me "this is a pokemon" and I was pretty confident it wasn't.
Frozen5147 ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 15:08:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was so confused when I saw "mukubird" and it showed Staravia.
randomthrowawayqew ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 16:57:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I only got that one and the crebase one wrong since they both used their japanese names instead of their English ones.
[deleted] ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 17:22:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. What a bullshit move for a quiz to pull.
Matt2142 ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 15:06:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only missed one. I don't know if I should be proud or a little ashamed.
Azara1th ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 15:17:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I missed 90% of them lol, because I never played Pokemon as a kid (parents banned it, because "demons").
Matt2142 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 15:22:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I played every pokemon between blue and Y.... also, I did data analysis for almost 6 months as an intern so I guess it makes sense.
Demons.... I don't know if that would be Super conservative Baptist parents or Mormon.. I have seen it both ways.
Azara1th ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 15:27:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super conservative non-denominational, because all the denominations are wrong.
Matt2142 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:32:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... makes sense.
May I ask if you are religious?
hugglesthemerciless ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:41:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be willing to bet a lot of money he kissed religion goodbye either as soon as he moved out after highschool or at the latest partway through college
Azara1th ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:11:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
^ bingo
Azara1th ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:11:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Left religion in college.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:43:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to sneak to watch DBZ as a kid because my mom thought they said sรฉance instead of saiyan.
plata_o_pomo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure the problem was not Mr.Satan?
Atropos148 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:26:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What would they say about Shin Megami Tensei?
Azara1th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No idea lol, I don't even know what that is.
P-01S ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:52:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was probably a rhetorical question.
Shin Megami Tensei has lots of monsters, kind of like Pokรฉmon. Except most of them are based on "real" demons from mythology.
P-01S ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:51:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not too late to start!
Trainguyrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
on big data or pokemon?
P-01S ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both, but I was talking about Pokรฉmon.
Dustin- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least I know my parents weren't the only ones. Our parents must have subscribed to the same batshit crazy alt-Christian newsletter.
suppow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:24 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i dont know if it's worse because they banned it for "demons" and or for evolution
Asquil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:52 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my language Pokemon happens to be a portmanteau of "hell" and "demon". I can relate.
SolenoidSoldier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty bad considering if you go into it knowing nothing you have a 50/50 shot.
Azara1th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I picked Pokemon unless it sounded like Big Data. I also know nothing of Big Data lmao.
masuk0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on if big data knowledge or pokemon knowledge carried you through.
Matt2142 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's say it was like 8: "That is/is not a pokemon.", 2: "That is definitely a big data thing. I mean, Who would name a Pokemon Hadoop."
Silveryard ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 15:17:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one is especially funny if you are german and do not know most of the english pokemon names
Lumen0602 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:15:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also uses some Japanese names for extra fuckery.
destiny84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Am German. About 75% wrong I guess, too bad they don't show your score. Not sure if I would score better if I were native English though, I don't know anything about Pokemon ;D
throatfrog ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 14:58:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/OfCourseThatsAThing
trump_elstiltskin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So is this
Asquil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:40 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What could it even be used for?
NorbiPeti ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:44:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only missed 2-3. I'm feeling lucky.
______DEADPOOL______ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:02:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, they all sound like Pokemon.
creamersrealm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:26:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And we hugged it enough for Google to temporarily block it.
another_mouse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:33:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly Metapod is no longer ambiguously related to big data.
https://blogs.cisco.com/cloud/metapod-is-now-cisco-metacloud
Baalinooo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Missed Crebase. Got all others right. Keep going, it gets easier.
woofle07 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:44:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that one is bullshit. If you're going to write the quiz in English, don't use the Japanese names. And especially don't mix and match Japanese and English Pokemon names.
ihaveahundredchairs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really good at this. Does that make me a programmer now?
tomthecool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you program your own Pokedex?
ihaveahundredchairs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:49:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely! I'm really good with Microsoft Word programing...
AFatBlackMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I got my ass kicked by that quiz
zopiac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the second one, "[Pangool is] like Sandlash, but it will help us to develop map reduce jobs for Hadoop."
If you can't even spell Sandslash right, why host this quizโฝ
bentheechidna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's dirty throwing in the Japanese name of Staravia and Avalugg.
Edoku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got 100% but i didn't even knew a single one Big data name lol just didn't checked on my pokรฉmon knowledge of names.
Xiretza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never played Pokemon, still got 61%. Good enough for me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: A lot of programming related logos would make excellent Pokemon.
insultfromleftfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazingly only got one wrong, but in all honestly several were guesses.
Spamakin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that was alot harder than I thought
Nyushi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that quiz is bollocks.
angrytortilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that was awesome
ApolloFireweaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whelp, I only scored about 50% lol
NateKurt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is Staravia called Mukubird in this survey?
murfflemethis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...why do I have 3% complete when I just opened the page?
BlueAizu21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a massive PokรฉNerd so I felt confident I'd get everything right, but using Japanese names for a quiz written in English threw me for a loop.
Lurker_Since_Forever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did it give the Japanese name for Staravia? That's cheating.
BestTankmoNA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck is a Mukubird? They used the picture of a Staravia and said its a "Mukubird".
SonicFlash01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This uses the English words for the Japanese names of Pokemon. I'm trying to think of a more polite way to tell it to eat shit and fuck off
doc_samson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus I only got like four right out of that whole list.
GenericUser69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you should have put "boober" in the survey
could-of-bot ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's either should HAVE or should'VE, but never should OF.
See Grammar Errors for more information.
GenericUser69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thanks bot
donutnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about a combo?
Gingerbread_Ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, why in the fuck is STARAVIA apparently "mukubird"
ProgramTheWorld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmmm
UNWS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think my knowledge of pokemon helped me more than my knowledge of big data lingo :)
idle_zealot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:36 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck this.
pmdevita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:14 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's Staravia
Fight me
Rathwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:31 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! No fucking fair using the Romanji names!!
Crebase and Mukubird my PokรฉAss!
mCProgram ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Pokรฉmon before staraptor isn't mukubird and the ice guy is a play on avalanche smh
bacondev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:55 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you just suggest that a popular Google website could suffer the reddit hug of death? That's cute.
Eit: Btw, it's no longer called Tokutek. It's TokuMX now.
tomthecool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:21 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It did suffer the reddit hug of death, yesterday!
If you clicked that link ~20 hours ago, you would have seen "Sorry, too many people are requesting that calendar right now".
I highly doubt we overloaded google's servers, but we may have triggered a rate-limiting security feature or something.
bacondev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:37 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh seriously? They implement hard rate limits? TIL
lartkma ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 13:58:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hope there won't be a version of AWK called Super AWK
TSP-FriendlyFire ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 14:26:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's apparently a Scala AWK, does that count?
KevinsAccount ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 14:51:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/126/314/3cd8a33a.png?1306264975
aa93 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:36:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If a repo has zero stars on Github does it even really exist?
deathBlad3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:02:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Word
htmlcoderexe ยท 550 points ยท Posted at 14:40:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I included "UW0TM8" on my resume between stuff. So far no bites.
P-01S ยท 447 points ยท Posted at 15:56:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'd throw out a resume with "uwotm8" in it too :P
htmlcoderexe ยท 176 points ยท Posted at 16:54:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually meant that not a single recruiter asked me about it, but I get your joke :)
P-01S ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 17:19:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got it. I just wanted to make the joke :)
you_got_fragged ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:29:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:)
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:39:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Laylow1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:41:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
<3
TheChuMaster ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:47:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a TCP handshake...
stevem32192 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:43:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now kith!
XkF21WNJ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:55:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That still implies you don't get invited by recruiters that did notice. You should try sending your resume without "uwotm8" to a control group and see if that influences the result.
htmlcoderexe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be really sure, I would have to use the same recruiters, right? A perfect experiment would erase their memory after the first time around. Unless the percentage of recruiters that would throw it out is high enough and is distributed evenly so that it can be significant in a small enough group, 10 less callbacks out of 100 with vs 100 without could be anything including random noise and the mood of the recruiter.
XkF21WNJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds about right. You'd expect statistical noise to be somewhere on the order of sqrt(N) for N callbacks, unless the proportion of recruiters that you end up talking to starts to go beyond 50% or so.
kare_kano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If enough of us add it to their CV think we can get it on Tiobe?
Xheotris ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 14:45:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that the http framework for the Australian fork of Google's pet language: WannaGo?
Johnnyhiveisalive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like the britbong fork, the Aussie one is ufuckinwotcunt
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have it on good authority that it is called Go'day mate
Reelix ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 15:07:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uwotm8.com is available ;p
gridderer ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:39:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not for long..
lx45803 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:10:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaand it's gone.
brophylicious ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reelix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:11 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Available more in the fact that it's being squatted than I guess completely available :p
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:27:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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htmlcoderexe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get jobs sometimes. Sometimes the jobs get me. Also I reread your comment 3 times and I think a very small "/s" might be necessary as a precaution.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:46:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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htmlcoderexe ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:51:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gave enough shits to post an angry reply.
Thatonefreeman ยท 292 points ยท Posted at 14:08:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give it enough time and JavaScript frameworks will pop up with those names.
muzzio ยท 166 points ยท Posted at 15:28:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, 'Metapod' actually seems like a great lib name
WorstDeveloperEver ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 16:04:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually... I was thinking about a name for my project. Which is a... JS framework.
Kerblaaahhh ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 16:31:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nintendo will be sending you a cease and desist momentarily.
shalendar ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:18:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just change it slightly, like "Metapawd"
silentcon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:12:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
metapodjs or metapod.js?
Iron_Maiden_666 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:48:32 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too many vowels, can we get rid of a few.
HumanShapedTip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:05:03 on December 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jspod
jtvjan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:16:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Metapwnd
Kevintrades ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:06:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah Nintendo! What a great name for a framework! Thanks
engagThe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:36:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
intend.io
Existential_Owl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:45:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great, we're about to suffer another kik/left-pad incident, aren't we.
citewiki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out?
TehAbstraCt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're eventually gonna run out of names for JS frameworks
socialister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:22 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thank god. The world needs more JS frameworks.
LeSpatula ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:25:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
metapod.io uses a programmable clear-thinking interactive matrix.
Thanks to the phased static core, full-range complexity can be displayed in a shared collaboration model, which then can be integrated in your reciprocal middleware layer.
No longer do you have to worry about cross-platform intangible standardization. metapod.io takes care of all of that.
Hoobacious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does it make the world a better place though?
LeSpatula ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's web-scale.
8draco8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:05:37 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.npmjs.com/package/metapod
Here's the thing - take any word, add JS on the end, put it in google and there is 90% chance that you will find JS library
marcosdumay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That name annoys me. Is it a foot made of feet? Or what?
Sydonai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It exposes one function: harden.
SK4T3RG4M3R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:18 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
M E T A E E A M T E T A A T E A
MeLoN_DO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:44 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A firewall maybe?
Myrl-chan ยท 396 points ยท Posted at 13:48:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop is my favorite pokemon.
princesshashbrown ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 14:46:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first hadoop or the hadoop he mentioned second?
sandm000 ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 15:03:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hadoop hadoop :(:
DerpyDan ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 15:07:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you want the Hadoop news? Or the Hadoop news?
sandm000 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:33:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
: ) : ( : ) : ( : |
Fawers ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:49:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(){ :|: & };:ric2b ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pasted that into a terminal and the result was very Aladeen.
sandm000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:31 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop
iamjannik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people's front of Hadoop fighting against the hadoopian people's front!
byebybuy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:09:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoop, shoop hadoop, shoop hadoop hadoop hadoop
sandm000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:31:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hadoop. hadoop, "hadoop". HADOOP!
you_got_fragged ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoop da whoop
I love vintage memes
CatOfGrey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop hadoop Hadoop hadoop hadoop hadoop Hadoop.
sandm000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop hadoop Hadoop had had had had had had had had had had had hadoop hadoop hadoop hadoop hadoop hadoop.
kyebosh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:16:08 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop
Hadop
Hodop
Hodor
TheOldTubaroo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:53:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He said pokรฉmon, so it's obviously going to be the second one. The first one is the framework.
lurklurklurkanon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The tech so nice he named it twice.
princesshashbrown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can we get a "whoop whoop" for hadoop hadoop?!
0xTJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:13 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop, Hadoop, Hadoop Hadoop Hadoop Hadoop Hadoop. Hadoopdoodoop
polekoner ยท 472 points ยท Posted at 14:12:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto, Sawk, Vulpix, Feebas, Ekans, Metapod. There you go.
conalfisher ยท 296 points ยท Posted at 14:18:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Forgot about Sawk
why did this get upvoted
skeeveholt ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 14:58:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's a weird hybrid of sed & awk.
p9k ยท 126 points ยท Posted at 15:26:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sawk used regexp. It's super effective!
kenmcfa ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 15:35:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I use regexp, I hurt myself in my confusion.
Ninjabassist777 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:06:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sawk used regexp! Sawk is confused! Sawk hurt itself in confusion!
Asnen ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:26:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With nawk and gawk around you're just gotta assume there is sawk somewhere too
lurker10001000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you check the lint trap?
TheOldTubaroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seeing as it's in among all the spark stuff, my first thought was "well maybe it's a spark API for awk". Then I realised how stupid that would be, but now I'm realising that calling is stupid will probably inspire some madman to make it anyway.
GenericUser69 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:58:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sawk used Rock Smash!
KnotPtelling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sawk used Rock Smash!
GeneralCoolr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:19:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone forgets sawk. Just throh-ing that out there
Growlywog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am more a fan of Shoe
SamuB162 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me2
LuckyHedgehog ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 14:44:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto is also a model mapper for Umbraco CMS
goat_reaper ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 15:01:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh sumbitch
Rndom_Gy_159 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:03:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about the Umbreon CMS?
bandersnatchh ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:35:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, should we all join together to make technologies for these names?
Whycanyounotsee ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:00:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He really tries to trick you up with onyx.
ZombieElvis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:18 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shiny too.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:06:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Missed onyx
seedbreaker ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 15:08:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onix is the Pokemon
[deleted] ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 15:09:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. You're right. I feel terrible about myself now. Wow.
JustinAiken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:34:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto is also a command line tool on mac os to merge directories together
Jaxkr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:17:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Forgot Krebase. That's the romanticization of it's Japanese name and it really does sound like a big data service lol.
Gangreless ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:17:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew ditto
WasKingWokeUpGiraffe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crebase too
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx
-GWM- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onix
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oxny
ZombieElvis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:36 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An argument could be made for shiny.
McKillersDollarMenu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:03:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx?
-GWM- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:42:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onix
McKillersDollarMenu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
Friskychicken666 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:14:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx? Isn't that one?
-GWM- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:42:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it's Onix
Friskychicken666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:57 on July 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dang...
coloreyesbot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:42:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot onyx
-GWM- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:42:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. It's Onix
coloreyesbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah tits
YetiBytes ยท 790 points ยท Posted at 13:57:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx is a Pokรฉmon and a scripting language. Does that count?
[deleted] ยท 904 points ยท Posted at 14:07:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only Onix is a pokemon
xXxNoScopeMLGxXx ยท 613 points ยท Posted at 14:35:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking hell, I give up.
I just wanted to be the very best like no one ever was.
Xheotris ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 14:43:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you'll be the rest, just like everyone always is?
Thetanor ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:37:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're all over the place
DMNWHT ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:17:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pewdiepie really let himself go
pf2- ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:42:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To catch them is my real test
edit: all these good jokes i missed fuck
kanuut ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:50:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except you failed, Hadoop isn't a pokemon
robot641 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:50:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To train black box models is my cause!
Neo_Whiz-er ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:53:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
POKE-DATA!
DutchDave ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:48:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To try{} them is my cause!
jerrygergichsmith ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 15:05:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having a recruiter ask about 'Onyx' spelling would really grab my attention
CANT_STUMP__ ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 15:31:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahhhh yes, I remember when this Mandela Effect (onyx/onix) made me question my mental sanity
Shadax ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:04:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you fucking kidding me right now. I just looked it up and it is Onix. My first ever experience with the Mandela Effect, thanks.
I sort of had it once with Froot Loops, but I never ate fruity cereal growing up to see the box enough and remember it wasn't spelled normally. Saw it at the grocery store recently which got a "how bout that" out of me.
messinwitcha12 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:04:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NOT ANOTHER ONE WHAT UNIVERSE IS THIS ANYWAY
Piroca22 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:22:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just remember that Onyx is an actual mineral on this earth, and they wouldn't give a name that is basically the regular word to any pokemon
DirtyDan257 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They got pretty damn close with Seel, Dewgong, Krabby, and Mr. Mime though. Electrode is also a real word but not quite exactly what Electrode is.
How about Poliwag actually? I'm pretty sure that's actually another word for tadpole.
Piroca22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Mr. is very important for the Mime you see.
Man, gen 1 had the worst pokemon lmao
DirtyDan257 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they had some great designs but there was definitely a fair share of lazy names.
Karavusk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am pretty sure that Onyx is the German name for the Pokemon
Iwanttolink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's Onix too. https://www.pokewiki.de/Onix
Meat_Robot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also a printing rip software. If the recruiter gets all three, you know they're the chosen one.
blueredyellowredblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's also a big data workflow platform written in clojure - http://www.onyxplatform.org/
cantdutchthis ยท 682 points ยท Posted at 16:33:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Howdy. So euhm ... that's me in that photo. It was taken during my PyData Berlin talk where I was explaining how I made a joke of a startup: tnaas.com. It generates pokemon sounding names for your startup using all the latest buzzwords (which we can generate for you!).
I'll mention a few things based on the comments.
MrSurly ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 17:09:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might want to re-word that to say you've been toying with them. As it is now, it implies they are "toy languages."
RedPseudoMetal ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 17:30:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't want to bring down the wrath of those holy warriors on yourself!
Mortichar ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 20:01:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone's shit-talking C++?
DEUS VULT
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:09:24 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
CaVaEtreCorrect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:25 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Terry A. Davis
skreczok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:46 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HABEMUS BJARNAM
0xTJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:51 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dev.brianeapps.com.desuvult2&hl=en
socialister ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:16:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Latin and C++ are both dead languages. Good analogy.
cantdutchthis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:24:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not worthy!
cantdutchthis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:22:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are completely correct! To my current usecases I've merely been toying witht hem.
CAfromCA ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 17:30:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your test has an interesting failure mode: Recruiters who are Pokemon superfans.
cantdutchthis ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:22:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Talk about the 1% of the 1%.
LittleDinghy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:07:56 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soon you'll be claiming that recruiters are people, and we all know that isn't the case.
CAfromCA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:59 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, now! I work for a professional services company that employs a ton of recruiters.
I'd go take a picture of them to prove their human appearance, but the last time I got near the cage one of them tried to claw at my eyes.
Just teasing, respected coworkers! Please don't send me to the pit we keep the salespeople in!
hyperfocus_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:29:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason, the fact you've listed shiny, ggplot, dplyr etc. alongside JavaScript (and R itself) is causing me more discomfort than the inclusion of Pokรฉmon
asdfmyasdfin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:32:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love how this guy starts his numbered list from 0 and not 1 - looks like you've been programming too much.
mnbvas ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:50:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Subreddit CSS - not in "Reddit is Fun".
HEONTHETOILET ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:37:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's "worryingly trending" because recruiters just might stop "bothering" you after seeing this meme.
NidaNutberry ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:42:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As they should
Existential_Owl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:47:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate the onyx/onix trick question.
ThanosDidNothinWrong ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:48:27 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so what you're saying is, you inflate the list by including languages you don't really know because you dabbled in them for a couple of hours
Yulfy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't suppose you have a link to your talk? I'd be interested in seeing it :)
CHvader ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:06:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP - but it should be up soon, all PyData talks go up on YouTube.
trump_elstiltskin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should also include your API expertise.
chamber37 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:37 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd just claim it was deliberate, to test their ability to parse an array for distinct values or some other bullshit.
Speicherleck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:34 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u w0t m8?!?
xatmatwork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nidoritzl is gonna take the tech industry by storm!
lingual_panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:51 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit, now I have to build something.
cantdutchthis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:20:20 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the first time i tried it it gave me "brobase".
database written in javascript.... comming up!
WillMelbourne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:49 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"plum"
hermaeus_m0ra ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 15:17:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why resume? I'd hire you right after seeing stickers on your laptop and pizza on your T-shirt.
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 16:01:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey it's me, the guy with stickers on lab top and a pizza T-shirt.
derpado514 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:58:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stop...just don't. LEAVE!!!!!!!
Asquil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:03:34 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm imagining it would be a trendy female version of the lab coat.
asstatine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey it's me... The guy with stickers on his shirt and pizza on his laptop.
hermaeus_m0ra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:54 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could have but you copied the job application from AmIWinning.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Rvngizswt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:03:12 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You wanna know how I know you won't be? Because you can't recognize a joke
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:55 on July 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neither can you I suppose.
danypixelglitch ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 14:41:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vulpix is the best programming language
MisterDreavus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:30:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you can write up to Ninetales using it.
bluaki ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:45:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vulpix can't handle that on its own, you'll need something like the FireStone library.
I've heard some people get similar results with Eviolite, but it conflicts with FireStone and I'm not sure why anybody would use it for anything but an NFE handler.
danypixelglitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
only If you bayleef in yourself
maxsalmon ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 14:13:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Impossible to find fault! They're all javascript frameworks
SamSlate ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 14:40:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gotta catch 'em all
angry_wombat ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:03:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there's some Python, and random other techs thrown in. I didn't know we should just list any random library or tech we've ever used.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:35:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got over 10 years of experience in print statements.
donjulioanejo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:16:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about echo statements?
HessianStatistician ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:51:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Numerous R packages as well. As an R user, I wouldn't fault them because they listed some key packages that many R newbies aren't familiar with but I would expect a serious R user to know (e.g., dplyr, ggplot2, shiny). I'd be happy to see those on someone's resume.
asdfmyasdfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think there are some frameworks / libraries worth mentioning. Like BOOST if you work with C++, maybe CodeIgniter and composer for php, npm for javascript etc...
angry_wombat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:24:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ
Sn_Shines ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:53 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You good with npm for JavaScript, welcome onboard!
asdfmyasdfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:35 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly man, I don't get it. How are you fine with composer & php and not npm and js?
For an entry-level position these are definitely worth putting on your resume. Especially because not all programs teach the latest technology. When you have competing front-end package management such as npm, yarn and bower you don't have to be working in nodejs to be using npm.
Sn_Shines ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:17 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohh, haven't used php, so.
flashpool46 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 15:06:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been trying to learn ekans but I'm just so use to shuckle and they are very different. It's almost as hard as sableye but not machop level hard. I might just have to stick to coding in cleffa for now.
MadBigote ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:25:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try ekan's framework, Rattle. I've heard it's what Google uses now.
likeasir001 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:22:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best thing is job postings usually ask for 100 years experience in ALL of them
darexinfinity ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:17:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Darn I've only been a pokemon trainer for 19 years :(
thecrius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not that much anymore but they do ask very nitpicky feature of the language that you will never use in real cases.
bluaki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to have 15 years of experience with C++11, 30 years of experience with Articuno, 20 years of Android development, and 10 years with Cosmog.
ka0t1k ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 15:07:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i can still recognize gen 1 pokemon. should i add that to my resume?
unrelevant_user_name ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 16:11:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being a Genwunner is not something you put on your resume.
The_Whole_World ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:31:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about Gen 3, how many points does that get me?
unrelevant_user_name ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:39:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Several.
Taxouck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:29 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're hired for knowing which is the best gen.
The_Whole_World ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:48 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew it!
THIS_IS_NOT_A_FAIL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
laughinggirls.jpg
unrelevant_user_name ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:29 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone who was 10 when Gen II debuted would be 30 today.
nermid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:30 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When Gen II was announced, maybe. Gen II debuted in the US in 2000. A person who was 10 then would be 27 today.
unrelevant_user_name ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:33:49 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because 27 year olds are children.
nermid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:39 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because basic arithmetic is hard.
unrelevant_user_name ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:18:15 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because hyperbole is forbidden
nermid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:17 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because admitting you were wrong and just owning up to it like an adult is unthinkable.
unrelevant_user_name ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:10:43 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Implying that someone can't perform basic arithmetic isn't very adult.
nermid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:23 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're at the "no, you" stage of this conversation already? You skipped telling me you're rubber and I'm glue.
rounced ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:58:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, knowing more than Gen 1 says a lot about a person.
Specken_zee_Doitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gen 2. Never bought a DS.
TheMightyTywin ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:46:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite Pokemon is polymorphism
fa7al25 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:38:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto here!
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:56:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People would really not give this guy an interview because of this pic? I think it's pretty humorous and shows the guy to be at least somewhat interesting rather than the pedantic sperglords in this thread that have nitpicking at languages and syntax of a pic that is obviously a joke.
Oh wow guy makes a pokemon reference in his career. END HIM. END HIM NOW. NO MORE CAREER IN SOFTWARE. UNACCEPTABLE.
10dot10dot198 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:29:43 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
linkedin is the worst about recruiters, I have a "no brown m&m" statement in my linkedin profile too, to see if the recruiters read it before sending me their latest earth shattering opportunity. 1% read it, the other 99% read what I was doing 11 years ago and think I want to start fresh at an entry level position again.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:44 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then don't read or use it? I use Linkedin about once every summer solstice. You dont have to respond or read every time the little red flag notification icon appears...
10dot10dot198 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:15 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a contract engineer, so LINKEDIN is useful, but junior or new hire recruiters are not. can you forward your response to them? I have a feeling they will listen once you explain I filter out their requests.
FuckStephCurry ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:50:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called being professional.
udusbhof ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:18:43 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Making a joke is arrogance?
There are also a million software jobs that don't care how you dress or keep your hair. Professionalism is getting along with your coworkers and doing the fucking job.
FuckStephCurry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:23 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, keep thinking that being an unkempt slob is professional.
mryagerr ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 15:18:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went into an interview and started talking about python using pandas then got interrupted by someone saying I should stop saying zoo animals.
PC__LOAD__LETTER ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 15:41:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been in an interview where someone said "stop saying X". Where was this?
[deleted] ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 15:57:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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giver_of_the_snark ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you never bring up land animals when interviewing at the aquarium. Everyone knows that.
mryagerr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:42:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Health care group. Health care people are blunt.
PC__LOAD__LETTER ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:15:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good to know. I'll steer clear.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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mryagerr ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:39:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ya I did, fuck off, I interviewed for a health care pmo group that wanted to get away from excel and I explained why I liked python more than R.... which is why I talked about pandas.
[deleted] ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 19:40:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Existential_Owl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:48:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could've been an awkward attempt at an ice breaker.
They always come off with x10 cringe when they're done in a job interview.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 19:38:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MyNameCouldntBeAsLon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's very odd, all of the data job postings that list R and Python, specifically mention pandas somewhere too
Ginkgopsida ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 16:34:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ggplot is just a package in R.
If I'd list all the packages that I use I could fill a book.
Nevertheless an impressive list.
ManyDingos ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:40:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dplyr, lazy, sparklyR, and some others are also just R plugins. There's possibly more, but I don't recognise them.
Definitely a bit silly seeing them among programming languages like C++ on this list.
biciklanto ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:17:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are plenty of R packages in that list. ggplot2, purrr, Bayes, Shiny -- and then if you mention other frameworks that are also R packages even things like Tensorflow would land in the list. Looks like someone who has dabbled in data science.
Source: am data science.
Mister-Jackpots ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:18:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ggplot2 is pretty epic. I'd definitely include it somewhere in my work experience if I were truly an expert and had used it professionally. My .pdf on ggplot2 is something like 800 pages, if I can find it. If I knew it all, I'd flaunt it for sure. Listing it alongside programming languages is silly, though.
CyberMario ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:16:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have very little programming experience, yet I've played plenty of pokemon. So... I guess I pass this test. Edit:Typo
Parzius ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:24:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a little lost on whether sparkling-water is legit. I wouldn't bat an eye if they named a programming language OR a pokemon that.
darexinfinity ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:12:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is jupyter, numpy and pandas really worth mentioning? These seem like tools that just seem to irrelevant to one's abilities.
Erickjmz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:24:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least numpy is used on data analysis, so by adding numpy you are saying "I know how to do data analysis with numpy".
Anthras ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but Pandas depends on Numpy. And Jupyter is just a web based Python interpreter that lets you write your code in cells, then execute the individual cells. You can also plot in the notebook.
Here's a link to an example of Pandas in the Jupyter Notebook.
Extremely useful, especially for data exploration when combined with pandas. I use it at my job every day
vbullinger ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:16:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me: Thanks for the email. No, I don't have time for [nicer way of saying "a half hour phone call of you prattling on about roles for which I have no interest]. Please send me roles that [list of criteria].
Recruiter: [Ignores all criteria and sends me whatever, while continuing to pester me for a phone call].
9 times out of 10.
blackhawksq ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:48:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite is when they call me at the office. Seriously? You're going to call me at my place of work? "Well I understand if you can't talk and want to call me back." ... "Ok understand this... F-OFF"
vbullinger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took me a while to figure out how they get this.
They check your LinkedIn.
"Current place of employment: XYZ company... go to XYZ's website... Send email to [My First Name].[My Last Name]@[Company Website URL]. Done."
Also, they can then call that company up and be like "Hey, can I talk to /u/blackhawksq please?" And they just send them right to you :P
fa7al25 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:40:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop is in there twice is in here more than twice
ThisFiasco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The department of redundancy department must have been at it.
Rogue3StandingBy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:55:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A wild JAVASCRIPT appears!
You use COMPILER!
It's not very effective...
Vassile-D ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to time it right. Use the compiler just-in-time to make it effective.
cxr1b0 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:04:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like how R is listed; followed by a few R packages...
[deleted] ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 15:48:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dobby12 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 16:03:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? I'm extremely courteous to them because if I have to crawl back to them begging to find a decent paying job I don't want to be tagged as "Dick with Pokรฉmon quiz" in their system.
And also they essentially cold call/message people which generates a whole new level of anxiety for me. Respect
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:49:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dobby12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok that's too far. I've never had that happen but I work from home and my office calls are forwarded to my cell so I haven't (knowingly) dealt with that yet. How could you ever expect discretion from them if they are doing that...
jdovew ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:36:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well, look at this arrogant asshole. Wore a pizza shirt and couldn't bother to comb his hair for a presentation. You know the type.
MrSurly ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:07:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about you, but recruiters are contacting me with approximately 98% garbage.
"No, I don't want to take a 5 week contract job in Syria for 1/3 what I'm making now. I don't care if it might lead to a permanent hire. WTF?"
n1c0_ds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:29 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I am courteous to recruiters, but most messages I get are for the wrong technologies and the wrong country. It gets old.
I report them as spam, but it doesn't do much.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:51:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure, but i think this might be a joke
it's Very hard to tell
p0tent1al ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:11:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Substitute the person we're talking about, and then it starts to make a whole lot more sense.
Recruiters are like anyone else, trying to make money. In the pursuit of this, they piss people off by being annoying, calling people during work hours, and generally not knowing about the space well enough, usually just content to pitch jobs that aren't the right fit just to see what shit sticks to the wall, sort of similar to real estate agents. I wouldn't exactly call it honest work but whatever.
notliam ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:52:08 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fwiw honest work doesn't include actually lying
jasie3k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty sad that I had to scroll this far down to see this comment. Everyone seems to be okay with this fuckery.
sfdud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agree
PhDinGent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:04:56 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm pretty sad that I have to scroll this far down to see a "It's pretty sad..." comment.
nermid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:25 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the above comment, and then choose a response from the options below:
Say "Found the recruiter" because the joke finally fits and you never get to say it and it's my time, Lord! MY TIME!
Agree. Recruiters are just people trying to make a living, and they sometimes produce great results. Shitting on people for doing their job, especially when their job may benefit you, is not great.
Disagree. Shitloads of job openings online are just recruiters spamming for positions that they may not even have open, there's a documented history of them screwing with resumes or stringing people along. Hell, every time a recruiter's spoken to me, it's been a waste of my time.
All of the above. โ
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:24:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know what you do? You take the 15 seconds to fire off the following canned message
"Thank you for taking your time to reach out to me regarding INSERT JOB TITLE HERE; however, at this present time I'm not exploring new opportunities. However, please keep me in your list of contacts as this industry can be quite fluid.
Regards, YOUR NAME HERE "
Actually, you know what. Don't. Be an ass and treat recruiters like leeches. Then I have less people to compete with
TiltedWit ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the recruiter.
ChikLife ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:34:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slightly disappointed there wasn't a "gud" after git
abrakadaver ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:39:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want Numpy to be a Pokemon!
fa7al25 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phanpy's 1st form?
ntwadumelo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:36:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like it, but you have Hadoop twice. That's worse than Pokemon!
carbombsOP ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:45:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im done with the discrimination of not knowing all the pokemon names
Collucin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:40:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't really expect a recruiter to be able to distinguish those items from the list. Pretty much all the recruiters I know are business/marketing majors with great social skills who have a somewhat passable surface knowledge of programming, and almost no knowledge of Pokemon.
Plus this just comes off as condescending, at least in my opinion.
jrsooner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if "Shiny" would be considered pokemon wording....
HEONTHETOILET ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:51:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Passive Aggressive IT guy admits to professional headhunters that he is a grown adult who enjoys Pokemon and doesn't give a shit about his career.
bandersnatchh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personally I don't see an issue with liking Pokรฉmon
HEONTHETOILET ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Liking Pokรฉmon is one thing. Broadcasting that to a prospective employer is another thing entirely.
diohadhasuh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:47:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People who put C++ among C or even C# grind my gears, if you think they are the same you don't know the language, also those notebooks with dozens of stickers... I think I'm old.
Cyhawk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:46:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The automated resume filters care. =(
Steampunkery ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:11:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop is in there twice.
dingo_bat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is there hadoop twice?
TheAtomicOption ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:33:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would just point out that he has hadoop in there twice.
peatoast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:36:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop is there twice. This is why we have QA.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's mine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ihate-uli-nked-in-770748129/
Got any mustard?
dobby12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:09:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who does a lot of QA, I can tell that guy wouldn't be fun to work with.
"Not enough detail on how you created the problem...."
3 tickets later
"Too much detail! I want to see the forest through the trees!"
Canadianingermany ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:44:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a new game. Programming language /Tool or Pokemon. Reminds me of Big Bang Theory game with Raj - Dog or Girlfriend. To whom did he say it?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:07:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Canadianingermany ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:56 on July 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice - I will play this.
topredditbot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey /u/fstorino,
This is now the top post on reddit. It will be recorded at /r/topofreddit with all the other top posts.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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n1c0_ds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:01:14 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only put things that require a some time to learn. Nobody is going to make a hiring decision based on your knowledge of some random package manager, but they might want to know about which frameworks you are familiar with.
Oh, and if it's on your resume and we need it, be ready to prove you actually know how to use it.
Starguard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:25:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP Cisco Metapod
AtlasWriggled ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He can't even code in LOTAD? Pfft, amateur.
adds68 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:13:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I used it once at a Hackathon"
TheDodd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Hadoop is listed twice.
9100 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:01:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell he's good from the amount of stickers on his laptop.
StopReadingMyUsrname ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell which are Pokรฉmon, but I can tell you which are modules and not actual programming languages. Should've thrown sys and math in there too for python!
aeramor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:17:28 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know enough about pokemon to do that.
sgenius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:49 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We're looking for someone who can take us to the next level with the latest technologies. We're told we need someone who is proficient in ekans, lapras and wobuffet."
rabbitstastegood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:34:28 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
recruiters?
LOL!
No one is interested bud
WolvesCallum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:12:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why c++/c# like they are similar????
Xylotonic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:35:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We are looking for someone fluent in C++ and Python."
"Here is my funny ass profile, can you recognize the pokemons?"
"gtfo out of my office"
spasticity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:38:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
get the fuck out out of my office?
Xylotonic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:52:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super out.
Geofferic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:37:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... some dude acts like a smug asshole in his interview, but has hadoop twice.
Good luck in your next interview.
And WTF with C#/C++? How are those grouped?
spooningwithkadabra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not Python. Nohtyp, maybe. But not Python.
ghanteshwar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
noice gary
MT_Flesch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
got hadoop in there twice
ekinnee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:27:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine doesn't even mention Java but I get calls for Java dev jobs daily. I hate that site.
The_SJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a Java dev now.
Schwa142 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop is listed twice... Must be really good at it.
JB-from-ATL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sawk is a Pokemon (pretty sure) but I could see that being an awk derivative lol
Nurkanurka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:08:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hadoop twice?
ToroZuzuX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQP7aclnrIk
youtubefactsbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bot info
FanofK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Metapod, how useless
EtsuRah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:38 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hadn't brushed up on Pokemon is a while so there were some in here I had to google to double check lol.
ElThomas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn he knows jupyter what a god
amusing_trivials ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is more a question about what Pokemon the guy knows that what tech he knows. Even to techies any long enough list is going to have some unknowns.
grays0ns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why fstorino, why! D-': Wishing I got here sooner... Dat Karma... Here's the source if anyone cares: https://twitter.com/siobhan_grayson/status/881447449398784002 Also, go to http://tnaas.com if you want to create more Pokรฉmon sounding names :-)
pedrovski88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
linkedin is facebook for snobs.
Shit_Post_Identifier ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does he even life?
Mobilematt1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand the hate for recruiters
NevyTheChemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They generally don't have a god damn clue.
pbrand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should have gone with the Pokemon Ceesharp and Ceeplus to make it less obvious
zJermando ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I counted 5 unless he misspelled Onix.
Source: am a nerd who isnโt a programmer (yet)
RileyRahe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:18 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
W
redditizio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's cute, obviously this person has a lot of time to explain this to recruiters, go through their answers and then decide if they passed or not, rather than just not answering the phone/email.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it normal to mention modules in your resume?
rhymes_with_chicken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a good thing or a bad thing that your recruiter knows Pokรฉmon?
professorkr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's hoping that recruiter can...catch 'em all.
blueredyellowredblue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
+10 for onyx.
rain_awareness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't work if you just know the Pokรฉmon
Kwillitzer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vulpix! You hired
_CtrlZED_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure Unity is a My Little Pony.
LoftyGoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:48 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure. Right. I'm calling BS.
I recognize a half-dozen programming languages I know in that list, and several software packages, some of which have their own extension languages, but who the hell knows the names of pokemon?
Neighboreeno88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope he's only asking for 1st gen
DaKing97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:40 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is too true. The amount of times I've had to tell a recruiter that chemical engineering is not chemistry, let alone focused on it is ridiculous. I wish these people knew the field they're supposed to be hiring for.
piecromancer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:44:11 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're not careful you'll get someone like me: a pokemon fanatic who knows nothing about programming.
realChebz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:24 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't hire this smug hipster, you should list things you actually know, not have used once in your lifetime...
fwork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:24 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'd be fun to make a list of all the pokemon and check off which ones are also languages/modules/tools.
I'm guessing it's upwards of 95%. Programmers are big nerds
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:25 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fake gamer, onix is spelt with an i
kagehoshi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:10 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fake nitpicker, it is spelled ใคใฏใผใฏ
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:04 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a recruiter this is hilarious
williamfwm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:02 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can read the lodash library reference? Hired!
OmniTroid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:51 on July 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"C#/C++"?
Absolutely haram
toasterbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:39 on July 18, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
^(Objective-)?C(++|#)?$\
EmperorTree ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:43:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly with all these shitty new Pokรฉmons they keep adding I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Pokรฉmon named JavaScript.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:32:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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VinceS22 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:51:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's just a joke. He's probably presenting to a bunch of devs and people that would find it funny. Know your audience. The fact that someone took a picture of it means that someone found it funny enough to post it on the internet.
Dude is having a little fun to me, that's all.
voksul ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:54:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But don't you understand? Anyone having any fun is CRINGEY. Me, on the other hand, I spend all my free time masturbating to the color gray.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:02:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a joke.
beginpanic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing says "you don't want to hire me anyway" like someone who lists their areas of expertise as big data, machine learning, multiple front-end frameworks, multiple incredibly minor javascript frameworks, a random code notebook, a single version control system, a 3D video game suite, several things that don't even show up on Google, plus intersperses Pokemon into there to trip up normies, and looks like he just finished a three-day bender.
Not judging the man at all, I don't know him. But I do know that none of these things are going to make a recruiter say "yes I want to hire this person". The Pokemon is not the thing that is going to make or break his career in the eyes of a recruiter.
scandalousmambo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:04:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's what makes a recruiter want to hire you:
"I speak English natively and I'll work for less than the guy you already have lined up from Tata."
gumshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The laptop stickers are icing on the cake.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:43:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, programmers really are crap designers :P (jk)
Some issues:
-1. Less would be more. All the frameworks/packages are cluttered. Given that there is only so much attention someone can have, the more things to see, the less attention each one receives. This list is too cluttered. Too much distraction = less attention per item. i.e. => eyes glaze over.
-2. Hadoop is in there twice.
-3. Some of the packages (dplyr, ggplot) are pretty standard R packages... as in, I don't see how one really used R without them.
-4. should be organized by language
psychotar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing with numpy and PANDAS
I think the one that irks me the most is probably shinyR.Edit: Ehhh I stand by the first part of my statement.
onetimeuse789456 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I thought of all of the R packages, Shiny would be the only one to mention because it operates very different than the rest of R, or even what most people use R for, and isn't really a "must have" package like ggplot2 or dplyr.
Did you mean sparklyR?
psychotar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually thinking of RStudio
candycigarette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop Hadoop
kindiana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop twice
yellowzealot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hadoop is on there twice
OJezu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My colleague found a solution to this problem - he simply names his application modules after Pokรฉmon.
SpikeShroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sparkling-water, I choose you!
waffleboy92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trick question! They are all javascript libraries
bathrobehero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sparkling water, I choose you!
Miles-za ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I ever create a database or BI system, I'm going to name it after a Pokemon, changing maybe a letter or two in there to avoid copyright infringement.
Jcbarona23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guy looks trashed af
ramstaandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
> You can't git the flask!
P-S-B ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Metapod takes the win
fridge_raider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Articuno would've been a believable language
nerdysquirrel01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I counted seven Pokรฉmon
LordBran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is pandas a real coding language?
Infini7y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I strive to have a profile that awesome. Is that a fucking vape in your mouth tho?
Tharagas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:05 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's a microphone (?)
Infini7y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh ok!
TwistyNipps69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I typically ask which is the best to get laid
psK1K ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
9 out of 10 recruiters can name all of the Pokemon in this list! How many can you name?
insultfromleftfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know enough programming or the newer generations of pokemon, so there are a few maybes in there . . .
animalengine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do hoy know all these lenguages?
Liesmith424 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ekans is just an extra hipstery version of Python.
tehosiris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Macbook and coding does not go well together.
Cayenne999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:23 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if Pokemon names are copyrighted ? They will be good names for this kind of package/framework/script stuff.
Artanisx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
c#/c++?
That doesn't make any sense.
It's almost like saying Java/C++
P.S. C# is the best!
aneeshak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto is a Pokemon as well as a piece of (useful?)software.....so.......
bonzo16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wow this is crazy
Diane112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
data is too big
CerealKid21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ggplot?! Isn't that just an R package?
p0tent1al ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PYthon python pyTHON!!
chlorinecrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are any of them legit both? Sawk in particular feels like it could be a... "standardized amazon web kit"? maybe?
BumwineBaudelaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they neither know nor care, and that will never change
get used to it
Tserraknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I cant tell which ones are languages, but, Ditto, Sawk, Vulpix, Feebas, Onyx, Ekans, Metapod. Shout out to "Shiny" as thats a descriptor for certain pokemon.
Is sparking-water really a thing?
amarkhil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually vulpix sounds more mature than purrr(damn u R guys) and feebas :P
XcryptoKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:06 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
VULPIX!
zdakat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Javascript is my favorite pokemon
tmybr11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More accurate than most job selection processes out there.
cow_moo_moo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pythan!
stendhal_project ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:26 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He has some laptop on his stickers.
zitterbewegung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then there is software named after pokemon.
https://cheeaun.github.io/repokemon/?ref=producthunt
burf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So as a recruiter I just need to know my Pokemon and I'm set.
CuriouslyChiral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice to see you included the top tier legendary Pokemon matlab on your list.
unix04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which version of sparkling-water? perrier or pellegrino?
mrbrodofaggins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sir, will go far.
chinguyen239w ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:46 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
@@
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yes. Fight those incompetent recruiters!
Shinigamiq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see at least three pokemons in there
RileyRahe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Np
whoiskjl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And he has made 0 commit to his repo since 2011.
DiabetesMan5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is genius.
BrandonHail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto is a copy paste program also pretty sure. I remember using it or something.
thelunararmy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Python, numpy, pandas.
Dude works in big data corp.
vadoooom335 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
onyx that one is evil
KarnaAmit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who is the guy
Idesmi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
notice: hadoop's listed twice.
czettnersandor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they can't answer this, endorse them with ASP.NET. Most evil thing ever.
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R3dstorm86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:02 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Repost in 5 years to r/blunderyears
antdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Posted in my LinkedIn profile. ;)
VECTEUR-ROBOTICS-TN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how I made a robot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXdEmjqVcA
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What adult would even understand this? So ridiculous.
watcherof_theskies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pokemon came out in 1996, and anyone born before July 1999 is an adult.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I don't know of ONE person born in the 90s that could name a Pokรฉmon. Granted, this is anecdotal, but so is the OP.
oshaboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:41 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pikachu?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:39 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in the list. Even then, that's a HUGE maybe.
dizaster213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ekans
dizaster213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vulpine and onyx
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah metapod is a gr8 language. /s
JazzJackReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:30 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is absolutely brilliant
JazzJackReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am now more than ever inclined to name my projects after Pokรฉmon.
bigdickbetty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx and ditto
Jesus-KunOP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sawk, Vulpix, ditto, feebas, onyx and ekans all pokemon
SUOrangeGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget Metapod
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the face says it all
AwkwardNoah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey look the language of snek
emdeka87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:24 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So effectively nothing
MiffTheFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:47 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I ever make a library or framework that seems like it'd become popular, I'm naming it after a pokemon.
Noxium51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/iamverysmart
rather_dash1ng ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:37 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't git [ye] flask.
OfAaron3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:19 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is Onyx a thing or is this just the common misspelling of Onix?
oshaboy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:12:42 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Googled it, Onyx is a thing
killersoda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:10 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onix is misspelled, unless that's a joke I don't get
j3nnif3rfu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:30 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're all Pokemons. They're all Dittos in disguise ๐
oshaboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:09 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
besides the one ditto that isn't in disguise.
j3nnif3rfu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:39 on July 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that one didn't get the note. Probably a bit hung over or something.
theaceshinigami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:16 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i feel like expecting people to know pokemon not from gen one is a bit presumptuous i bet there are over a thousand at this point
WeirdStuffOnly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:06 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lodash is a R package or a new Pokรฉmon?
I really don't know this one.
TheHelgeSverre ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:35:07 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lodash is a javascript utility library.
https://lodash.com/docs/
blbrd30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:53 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YO I'M ALSO AT THE PYDATA CONFERENCE. Which talk was this? Also, hmu if you're there
Yoghurt114 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:24 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah. This man's laptop has stickers. Next.
TheSoulless_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:21 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
elevenen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:47 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because C# and C++ is basically the same
ramond_gamer11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:47 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vulpix
ramond_gamer11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:05 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto Vulpix, Metapod on and Ekans
EightBitFist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:24 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like most of those words are nonsense
BleedingPacifist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:42 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Python is my favourite character
Matthew_BpBuds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:17 on July 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
visibly sweating
Uhh, um, uhhhhhhhhh
... Numpy, maybe?
linky00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:51 on July 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I'm a teacher, on the last day of term, I'll run a quiz like this for the class.
iammrdollar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:19 on July 25, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which video is this?
cantdutchthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:50 on July 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the talk that started it all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hR4peP9V4A
Grantdc15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:53 on September 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey does anyone know if there is a way to rearrange recommendations? One of my first recommendations, which I consider one of the best, is stuck at the bottom of my page. Is there anyway to change this?
bukc_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:37 on November 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"C#/C++"
notITnotIT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is stupid
Techhead0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:27 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do I do if the only Pokemon I can recognize in this list are Gen 1?
othtim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:44 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pat yourself on the back.
asgard13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy fucks.
CaseyWillstat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
7 in total
ImAnIronmanBtw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx, Ekans, Ditto, Vulpix, Feebas, Metapod and...? Pyspark maybe?
Havent played pokemon in years so I could be wrong about 2.
vishhh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:05:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sawk
ElectricPaper ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:08:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onyx is not a Pokรฉmon.
ImAnIronmanBtw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So ... Technically I was right about being wrong, so take that.
Steampunkery ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:12:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm, yes it is.
ElectricPaper ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:13:32 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onix is, Onyx isn't.
Steampunkery ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:13:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. My bad.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
check yo spelling
treycartier91 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:27:57 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onix is. Onyx isn't.
CaseyWillstat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:34:36 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sawk
280Cloud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:49 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ekans,Vulpix,ditto,onyx,feebas,sawk
I_get_banned_alot ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is so stupid and by this point I would not hire people with such "range of" skills. No one cares what tools you use and it sounds as stupid on par with people who put Microsoft Word, MS Excel, MS Paint and proficient with Google Gmail!
jonrules ยท -63 points ยท Posted at 14:08:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My rule of thumb is if a candidate has more than 3 languages dumped in a list on their resume, I don't hire them. It shows laziness and dishonesty. Edit: Actually, there should only be 1 language listed. Nobody knows more than 1 language. Edit: /u/Xheotris has convinced me that one dozen languages is acceptable to dump into a list on a resume.
Fourthdwarf ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 14:14:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people know 4 or more languages well enough to use them professionally.
jonrules ยท -46 points ยท Posted at 14:16:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what I mean. I'm referring to the format shown in OP. There are more tactful ways to advertise what you know.
blortorbis ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 14:31:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Use your words to describe what you mean.
Chairboy ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 14:36:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tactful means to avoid giving offense, doesn't it? I know that I am not socially expert so please pardon my ignorance, but how might a resume list of languages and frameworks cause offense?
jonrules ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:52:35 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL 'tactful' does not mean what I thought it meant. I'm a big dummy.
PM_ME_MOD_STATUS ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 15:26:40 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This nigga don't even know ONE language
Elite_AI ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:35:45 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, that is 100% correct and I fully agree with you.
Chairboy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:57:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not at all, and I'm sorry you're getting internet hate right now. The mob is subtle and quick to anger. :(
jonrules ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:15:03 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No worries :) Thanks for the English lesson.
Shuko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:23 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just speaking for myself here, but I have all the subtlety of a drunk rhinoceros, and I suspect that many of my coworkers share that trait in common with me, lol.
thumpas ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:41:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The format? You realize that's not actually a picture of his profile right? Why would it say "My Linkedin Profile" on the top? That's just a slide show slide.
jonrules ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 14:50:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is satire for the exact thing that I mentioned.
Jetz72 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:18:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are, and you're right that a wall of languages or a narrow bulleted list is bad presentation. But you're setting a really low limit at 3. A sentence listing five or six languages demonstrates versatility. Even if it's not claiming a deep understanding of each one, it's still valuable to know.
Besides that, once you've learned a couple languages, the rest come much more easily. So if their past work shows a deep and thorough understanding of one or two in particular, and they have some experience with the others, then it's safe to assume their understanding of programming concepts goes beyond any one language. If they have that, the rest is syntax and conventions.
xaitv ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 14:17:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why dishonesty though? I'd consider myself to have enough knowledge to start working with 4 languages professionally instantly(those I have direct work experience with in the last few years), and there are also some languages I've learned when I was still in school or that I used on side-projects that I'm not even including in those 4.
jonrules ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 14:23:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure that's fine. Just don't do that shit in the photo based on that one time you heard your friend's neighbor's uncle talk about Haskell.
Throwaway_43520 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:13:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't quite tell if you genuinely don't believe that people know multiple languages or just don't want to believe because it makes you feel insecure about your own skills.
It's weird and makes me feel a bit sorry for you.
jonrules ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:21:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate you reaching out. The truth is that we were only taught 1 language at my university, so that is the only language that I use professionally. I do feel insecure about this at times, but then I remember that I am blessed to have friends and a loving family to keep me grounded.
Martin8412 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:55:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We were taught Java, C, C++, C#, Scheme and SML at my university. I would say I can do Java, C and C++ well enough to do it professionally. With a few weeks I could probably include C# in that list as well..
We were not directly taught all the languages, but we were expected to use them, and if we did not already know them, we would have to pick them up and learn them.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:16:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then I'm gonna be blunt and say that you have no business recruiting for a tech company of any kind.
I knew 2 programming languages by the time I finished high school - both Basic and Java, with a teeny bit of random fiddling with C, HTML, and SQL. Are you gonna tell me a professional can't possibly know more than three?
I can't imagine where you would've gotten that - but I can tell you that if you are in a recruiting position looking for programmers, you have been actively rejecting your most qualified candidates.
jonrules ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:37 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are blunt, but fair. You have convinced me that you may dump 5 languages into a list on your resume.
Nicolay77 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 14:28:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blame recruiters, not developers.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:23:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I list JS, C# and Python
Recruiters turn that into Java, C++ and good with reptiles.
nicethingyoucanthave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:27 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also groovy (a scripting language for java) gets turned into javascript. JSP (java server pages) is javascript too.
jonrules ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:54 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, this guy gets it.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:44:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, what?
I'm just a hamfisted mechanical engineer and I've used at least 3 languages just this morning.
Then when you get into specific Matlab toolboxes that companies list on job descriptions that more than doubles.
jonrules ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:01:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'npm install' is not a programming language.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:28:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Web frontend (and backend) is a bag of black magic spaghetti.
So far this week I have gotten the opportunity to work with:
Plus getting to deal with Git, SVN and ClearCase.
All of this to do ISO 26262 and DO-178B.
Kekistanian9000 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:37:34 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Matlab is not a language.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:39:12 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do your job wikibot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATLAB
WikiTextBot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:39:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MATLAB
MATLAB (matrix laboratory) is a multi-paradigm numerical computing environment and fourth-generation programming language. A proprietary programming language developed by MathWorks, MATLAB allows matrix manipulations, plotting of functions and data, implementation of algorithms, creation of user interfaces, and interfacing with programs written in other languages, including C, C++, C#, Java, Fortran and Python.
Although MATLAB is intended primarily for numerical computing, an optional toolbox uses the MuPAD symbolic engine, allowing access to symbolic computing abilities. An additional package, Simulink, adds graphical multi-domain simulation and model-based design for dynamic and embedded systems.
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:39:39 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
coolpooldude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:47:28 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol what does this even mean
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:58:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A-level_Computing/AQA/Computer_Components,_The_Stored_Program_Concept_and_the_Internet/Fundamentals_of_Computer_Systems/Generations_of_programming_language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programming_language_generations
coolpooldude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:22 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol
grungebot5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:19 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the kind of language humans use
coolpooldude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:29 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
humans don't use C?
Kekistanian9000 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:41 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you use software that runs commands from text input rather than buttons clicks it's not a programming language.
Edit: especially if it's fucking proprietary.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:48:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What leaps in logic did you use to come to that determination?
The fact that there is GUIDE to allow use to use 'button clicks' aside are guys that program from the terminal in VIM not using any languages?
Are you sure you're not confusing the "text input" that Matlab presents with a REPL that other languages have? IPython is a REPL for the Python language.
Kekistanian9000 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:00:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anything that does not have increment/decrement operators is not a programming language.
hexane360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:25 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Valuable opinion here
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:19:04 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he say that?
Lotton ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:24:00 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At my university we're taught more than 4 languages...
an_actual_human ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:16:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having learned a language at university is not the same as listing it on the resume though.
Shuko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:53 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is if you're entry level.
jonrules ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:16 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What university? At my university, we only learned one language and that's the language that we use professionally.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:07:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a terrible university. Although universities should focus more on concepts then languages, it is silly to not expose students to multiple languages over their education. If you only learn one language the whole time you are at school and only apply to jobs for that language then you've just limited yourself significantly.
dynastyunder ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:10:50 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The more I read your posts the more annoyed I get. I hope you are just a clever troll and not actually someone who makes hiring decisions.
nimoto ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:38:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's KenM if KenM was only taught 1 programming language.
Throwaway_43520 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:11:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like your education wasn't particularly comprehensive.
Gh0stWalrus ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:10:13 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nigga u dumb
blaxter ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:34:24 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've used more than 3 languages working today
jonrules ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Are you looking for a job?
blaxter ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:00:56 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no
NoRealsOnlyFeels ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:04:20 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever tech company you work at, I'm sure it's not a good one, where people know one language each.
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redoubledit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:34:09 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gr8
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:55:17 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody knows more than 1 language? Seriously? Lmao
arvyy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:59:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would anyone need more than 1 anyways? As long as it is Turing complete, it's only a matter of personal preference for syntax.
/s just in case
derleth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:36 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shuko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:54 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please stop controlling my customer. For the love of God, get your madness out of his brain!
lytes ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:52:53 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Python and a bit of Java are used throughout my day.
Why would I only put one language on my resume?
digitalpencil ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:56:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, you say "HTML" and when they ask if you know CSS, you tell them jonrules said you were only allowed to list one for risk of looking like a knowitall developer.
jonrules ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:59:15 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HTML and CSS count as -2 languages.
WolvesCallum ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:16:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is said by someone with 0 experience creating a decent web application
lytes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:03:10 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just keep telling yourself that.
Todok4 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:16:31 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they're worth listing in a resume for sure, I wouldn't call them programming languages though since you can't write a program with them.
patrick66 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:33:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, HTML5 + CSS3 is fully Turing complete if you really, really want to hate your self.
Todok4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
only if you add user interaction to pump the machine, which is kind of cheating in my book. There is no loops or recursion.
patrick66 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:52:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah totally, that was the 'technically' part in my statement god help anyone who actually tries to program a TM using just html and css
Alexalder ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:43:51 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Powerpoint is turing complete
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:07 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does HTML5 implicitly include Javascript/ECMAScript? If so, yeah, that's trivially Turing complete.
patrick66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:40 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
javascript is for sure turing complete, but as Todok mentioned, as long as you are willing to accept user interaction, HTML5 + CSS3 can actually be proven to be turing complete without js believe it or not
derleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:51 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very interesting.
DisWastingMyTime ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:16:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, HTML is a markup language and CSS is a style sheet language.
So, no, those two are not programming languages, someone can be fully adapt in both of these yet not know a single thing about programming.
TheGift_RGB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:58 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't count
congratulations monkey, you know Algol with bits and bobs of some functional languages
You know 1 language
grungebot5000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:04 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
danypixelglitch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:49:55 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um... Yes, yes we do
Xheotris ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:53:29 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. It's not that hard to pick up a dozen languages, especially in the same family. I know four JS derivatives, two JVM languages, two scripting languages, Rust, and a couple of Haskell/OCaml derivatives.
Sure, my proficiency isn't even across the board, but I could easily produce professional work in any of them. Just like a human linguist, once you understand the cross-cutting principles behind the languages, picking up more is simple enough to not be impressive.
bandersnatchh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are the four derivatives?
I can think of two.
Not being a dick, actually curious.
Xheotris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typescript, Dart, Elm, Reason.
Kotlin is also designed to transpile to JS. JSX could count as a separate DSL too, and some people act like ES6/7 are different languages from JS 'classic'. So, four-ish, plus or minus a couple.
bandersnatchh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh thank you. CoffeeScript could be one of those too right?
Didn't know that about Kotlin, just knew it went to byte code.
Xheotris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:11 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. CoffeeScript is a good one. I never really played with it though.
Kotlin's neat. If you ever have to do Android programming, I highly recommend it.
jonrules ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:09:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know a talented man like you existed in this world. You have changed my mind on the whole thing. You may dump a dozen languages into a list on your resume.
Xheotris ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:16:33 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the sarcasm, but it really isn't that hard. I'm not claiming to be a wunderkind at picking up languages, I'm saying that even a moderately competent programmer should be able to.
bandersnatchh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:47 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean a lot of languages are very similar.
For example if you know Java, you can pick up C# pretty quickly.
jonrules ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should put both on your resume then!
Vacation_Flu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:02:21 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna add 'jonrules' to the list of languages on my resume so you can easily identify a candidate that a) you don't want and b) doesn't want to work for your company.
jonrules ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:14 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just add 'PHP' to the list and I will burn your resume and send you the video ;)
Vacation_Flu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:25 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then I'll get a bunch of companies bugging me who want a PHP developer.
jonrules ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:52 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. Do not do that!
WolvesCallum ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:14:01 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Nobody knows more than 1 language' mmm ๐๐
bandersnatchh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:07 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do we include HTML and CSS?
What about JavaScript derivatives(TypeScript, CoffeeScript)
Shuko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:03 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use Java, Matlab, C++, Unix bash scripting, and FORTRAN on a regular basis in my current job. :| Any comment on that?
jonrules ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:29 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is too many. Please pick 3.
Shuko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:58 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a troll?
jonrules ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:19 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does that mean?
Shuko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:33 on July 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So yes then. Gotcha.
whoiskjl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:59 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a full stack dev, it is critical to know multiple languages and relatively fluent in them as well.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
STOP MAKING ME FEEL INADEQUATE
pocketMagician ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:43 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the apple-hipster man child "google-oriented developer"... never gets old.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:42 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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secrestmr87 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 18:34:19 on July 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people still use linkedin? I just Jobconnect. Damn you guys are old.