Shit! Forgot to commit it to the main trunk and another client has just been released the non fixed version. Balls.
cestith ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:01:07 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen this typed into a conversation almost verbatim. It turns out he did fix it and it was somewhere else in the code. The code was copypasta from one place to another rather than factored into a subroutine.
The programmer doing maintenance initially found and fixed one copy and not the other. This caused the bug to be fixed in one code path, for which he tested after the fix, and not the other. When it was discovered the other code was identical to the previous version he'd fixed, he requested a full two days to modularize the whole project. The decision was made to just factor out this part using the fixed logic and to keep an eye out for future redundancies.
Fuck, reminds me my boss. It is 8 pm already, boss leaves home saying exactly this.
"Yes, sir. I have no private life, no family and no other interests other than programming and thinking about how this critical bug may affect company's overall reputation and make me look as a shitty programmer who can destroy everything by simply overlooking some shitty bug.". Shit, what am I doing with my life?
Vakieh ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 13:21:15 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Lolwut? 8pm?
If I'm working at 8pm and my boss isn't heading out to bring a 6-pack and pizza back, guess who's heading out at the same time... this guy.
pcopley ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 13:28:56 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
If it's 8pm and my boss is leaving I'm asking my boss what the hell he's doing in my house.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 13:42:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Your wife
pcopley ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 13:47:31 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He was supposed to be done by 6.
Vakieh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:50:10 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, normally I'd be the same, but I've worked places I enjoyed what I was doing enough that crunch time overnighters (with the boss pitching in and supplying said beer + pizza) weren't out of the question.
Made for some nice overtime pay on top too.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 13:22:18 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He's hinting you should go home, probably saying it sarcastically. Typically bosses will want you to get decent personal time so you won't burn out. When they're actually mad at you, they'll yell, have a heart to heart meeting, or just fire you.
He usually says that knowing exactly that the issue won't be fixed today. And for the last 7 years, he is ok with this. But it just leaves you in a bit shitty mood, though.
I agree if there is a real fuck up, it is different. It is usually a tough talk with top management. But I have to admit, boss usually defends me and the rest of his team in such talks and most of the time takes all the responsibility. And this makes you as a human to care more about your work. And it goes deeper and deeper, until you realise that it is 8 pm, and you don't want another fuck up like it happened 2 months ago.
I don't know. Just swap out regular flour for coconut flour and you should be good. That sounds like it would taste better. Also, I've noticed those gluten-free areas look like they have better-tasting food. Gluten is always found in filler junk, not high-quality food.
I would actually love to make it to senior developer or project manager one day just so I can mess with the juniors like that. Or maybe do a code review and nail them because it's not valid Turbo Pascal code.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
If you give a bug a cookie...
Nulono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:05 on November 22, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
The first computers had massive light bulbs that worked as transistors. Bugs would fly to the light, get fried and mess up the computer, because there was a "bug"
In 1946, when Hopper was released from active duty, she joined the Harvard Faculty at the Computation Laboratory where she continued her work on the Mark II and Mark III. She traced an error in the Mark II to a moth trapped in a relay, coining the term bug. This bug was carefully removed and taped to the log book. Stemming from the first bug, today we call errors or glitch's in a program a bug.
[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 16:18:06 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a myth! The term bug predates that by a long time.
Here's Thomas Edison, 1878:
It has been just so in all of my inventions. The first step is an intuition, and comes with a burst, then difficulties arise โ this thing gives out and it is then that bugs, as such little faults and difficulties are called, show themselves...
Even the term 'debugging' dates back to the 1920s, to describe the diagnostic processes of aircraft mechanics.
If you read the logbook that the Hopper bug is taped to, it actually says "First actual case of a bug being found!" -- they were already familiar with the term 'bug' to describe a mysterious glitch in a device and were laughing that this time, the bug was actually a physical bug. The guy who found the bug, taped it down, and wrote the note was a colleague of Hopper's called Bill Burke. Hopper recounted the story, and people recounted Hopper recounting the story, and magazines recounted people recounting Hopper recounting the story, and over time it went from "Hopper's colleague found a bug that was literally a bug, how funny!" to "Hopper found a bug that was literally a bug!" to "Hopper coined the term bug!"
hax_wut ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:08:45 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
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Uh no. Actually "beuhg" is an Amharic word that means "problem".
It's famous for being used by Bahri Negassi Yeshaq during the Adal-Ethiopia war, when he first saw Ottoman armies approaching; the Empire was at that time the biggest world power.
There are some sources that say that "debugging" comes from that time, but "de" isn't Amharic at all. I think it's a made-up story to try to link our modern usage of the "debugging" word, when it's in fact a new word made-up of the "de" preposition of the English language (and Latin languages too), added onto the "beuhg" root that has been anglicized so as to not look weird to Anglo eyes.
hazju1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:30:13 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha! I never knew the bug was actually taped into the log book.
galorin ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 13:58:59 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
In 1946, when Hopper was released from active duty, she joined the Harvard Faculty at the Computation Laboratory where she continued her work on the Mark II and Mark III. Operators traced an error in the Mark II to a moth trapped in a relay, coining the term bug. This bug was carefully removed and taped to the log book. Stemming from the first bug, today we call errors or glitches in a program a bug.
Your quote comes from a quotation inside the article which the article is using as an example of an often-repeated but incorrect. Right before your excerpt it says
Use of the term "bug" to describe inexplicable defects has been a part of engineering jargon for many decades and predates computers and computer software
'Bug' as a term for mysterious and unwanted problem in a machine dates back to the 1870s and 'debugging' as a term for discovering and fixing those problems dates back to WW1.
The entire reason they preserved and joked about the Mark II bug was because that time the bug turned out to literally be a bug.
galorin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:21 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Adds to the charm, don't you think?
-Rizhiy- ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:31:16 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
While that incident did occur it clearly says beforehand that term 'bug' was used to denote small mistakes long before-hand, so the second part of the quote is incorrect.
Title-text: Hi! Someone call for me? I'm a superhero who specializes in the study of God's creation of Man in the Book of Genesi-- HOLY SHIT A GIANT BUG!
i know it as: bugs would come and eat the punchcards used in calculating. The holes would then be on the wrong place or not readable for the computer, messing with the calculations.
nemec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:26 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I always thought it stemmed from programmers staying up through the night like Vampires (bats) and making mistakes because they were so tired.
ELI12: /u/bretfort 's code sucks because he does not check his code for errors on the same day he writes the code. So the next day people find many bugs in it.
bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Those bugs include:
Sync in Progress when we plug in iOS Cable
Application crashes when phone battery dies
After application crash the application doesn't relaunch automatically
etc.
After QA check whenever new issues/UI cosmetics are logged, he usually thinks this is something which happened overnight. And most of those aren't even linked to my development as we work in a collaborated environment, and I am the lead.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:03 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Better than not having anyone do QA. I finish my QA and no one ever makes a peep. Then we launch and have to rollback because X didn't work.
bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:27 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:37 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He tries to fit in by using tech terms, he's an intelligent guy but an Industrial Engineer, he takes software life cycle as if something is on a container belt and requirement change is something he totally forgets.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:01:11 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
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bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:18 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
wimpykid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:10:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you lying?
bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:06 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
good ol times, the bug reports we used to see you won't even believe. And the QA would pass most builds and whenever there's an FC or RC they'll come up with shitload of unresolved issues which they've been hiding in their armpits.
Oh, of course, that wasn't my point. My point was that my boss was assuming that we didn't test our code. We do. However, module A and module B can be flawlessly coded on their own, it doesn't mean that there won't be bugs in their interaction. Now add to this module C, D and E made from worker 2 and module X, Y and Z made my worker 3, then add all the freak cases like lost of connection at a very specific moment or weird device specs... You are bound to have bugs.
LWdkw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:06 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
sp106 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:14 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I get what he's saying there and it's completely correct.
Extrapolating that to mean that programming is easy is incorrect, but the fact that most mistakes and oversights can be safely self-caught later is a luxury that a lot of jobs don't get.
Carve too deep in a piece of wood and you need to start the fuck over. Spill paint on a car and the whole paint job is ruined. Drop a piece of machinery and it breaks. Use the wrong syntax then compile?
You could handle some exceptions by error message, id, etc and let others that don't match pass through to a higher level. Also it might be arguable to do so, but you could also use methods with effects such as logging or conditional returns for debug vs release etc
It's just syntactic sugar though, you could do all of this just with an if statement inside the catch and a throw; in an else
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:38:31 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
of course its just syntactic sugar, but it looks like it might do more harm than good.
As far as I understand from the article, the difference is only relevant if investigating a crash dump of the application.
While this can hold interesting information, this would only become relevant if the exception is completely uncaught, thus causing the program to crash.
wievid ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:07:34 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
... what was it again about great power and responsibility?
mrhhug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:47 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Why use a handshake when you have a nuke?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:29:33 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, he's gonna love the null chaining operator.
Null chaining, nameof, and auto-property initialization are all things that almost any project can find great use for. My most recent project had tons of OnPropertyChanged calls that nameof would have made much cleaner.
a_kogi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:14:53 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of using nameof you can use [CallerMemberName] of C#5.
Put this in your base viewmodel and then simply call OnPropertyChanged(); from the setter. It will resolve calling property name, null-check event and fire it with correct args.
Qwirk ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:41:13 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
If this is true, you need to sell yourself to your boss better. I would suggest starting slow with a broad overview of what you have been doing and how you have been completing tasks.
If they don't see your correct value to the company, your promotions, bonus or pay increase will reflect this.
Kusibu ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 14:49:07 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
presses second switch
"Stanley glanced at the clock in his office. My goodness, it was nearly six, and he was supposed to be done with his job at five! He got up from his desk and stepped out of his office."
presses second switch
"But as he was leaving, he remembered a very important project that he simply had to get done before the deadline-"
presses second switch
"yet Stanley didn't return to his office. His wife was waiting at home, and he didn't want to keep her waiting, now did he?"
presses second switch
"But after standing there for a moment considering what he had done, he decided that having a job would help his wife much more than getting home early."
"He returned to his office, sat down in his chair, and awaited the next command."
I remember someone reported a bug in the school app of our school (which I made) in the morning right before class and I had class with him the last block and he was like "Hey, have you fixed yet?" and I was like "No" then he was like "Go fix it now then" as if I can just press a button and fix everything.
027915 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:57:41 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
came from /r/all and i have no idea what i'm looking at.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:04:52 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
So those buttons in the picture are to turn on and off something. It's a joke because the boss just imagines it's as simple as turning off a bug and turning another one on. When in fact debugging is a pain
๐๏ธ SweanS ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:08:43 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
My boss literally thinks I put in bugs on purpose.
Brarsh ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:30:29 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, you're a programmer. How do you not know how every line of code will work with every other line of code in every feasible situation?
Sounds like you need to go back to coding camp.
tashtrac ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:28 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, proper encapsulation, robust interfaces and generally following good design practises should shield you from most of bugs coming out of nowhere.
I am probably naive but I refuse to do a job where my supervisor is incapable of doing that job. I am not saying they need to be able to step in and immediately be able to do the job, but if they flat out can't do it, I don't want them judging my ability to do said job
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:35:29 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
In many instances, there's no need to re-invent the wheel. In fact, adopting large peer-reviewed open source software is beneficial in the aspect that 1. It's literally free, and 2. A large community behind it can detect and squash bugs from miles away/ and provide support for no cost.
TuxGamer ยท 479 points ยท Posted at 11:18:09 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
In fact what you are coding is a super-smart algorithm that detects new switches and turns them off.
[deleted] ยท 279 points ยท Posted at 11:42:50 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
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๐๏ธ SweanS ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 11:53:45 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
How else am I going to have job security while still being lazy?
LogicalEmotion7 ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 14:13:57 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
The secret curse of automation is that you cannot tell anybody that you automated your job until they promote you.
Jake323021 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 15:39:54 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Unless telling them that you automated your job is what gets you promoted
Admiral_Akdov ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 15:59:59 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Automate the job but make it intentionally inefficient. Tell the company that if they promote you, you can "refine" the process.
5225225 ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 17:04:52 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
http://thedailywtf.com/articles/The-Speedup-Loop
Admiral_Akdov ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:06:08 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That is awesome.
cestith ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:49:27 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
BPFH
LifeWulf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:09 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I remember this! Always entertaining to read.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:51 on November 5, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I have to say, wayne is a genius.
PBI325 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:56 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Ethics!!1!11!!! /s
Admiral_Akdov ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:07:32 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Ethics? I think I had those once.
phaseMonkey ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 14:14:16 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That takes a lot of effort.
I think I'll tattoo eyes on my eyelids and just take a nap.
learnyouahaskell ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:40:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
tatooing your eye....
phaseMonkey ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:50:23 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It's got to be up there on the pain scale, just below "pee hole"...
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:41:54 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
/r/sounding
phaseMonkey ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:52:53 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Thank RES for letting me know what that sub is before clicking...
NSNick ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:25:29 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the FBI solution.
octnoir ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 12:00:07 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I created a button that tells other buttons whether they should press other buttons or not.
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 12:00:53 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Hi, my name is octnoir and I work in a button factory.
MrJohz ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 12:13:49 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a wife and two kids, and one day my boss came up to me.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 12:19:48 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
You wouldn't believe what happened next. Find out after the break.
01hair ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:18:55 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He said, "Octnaoir, are you busy?" I said, "No." He said, "Goooood..."
MrJohz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:43:49 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He said "Push this button with your right hand!"
teknogeek1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:14:43 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Hi octnoir. Welcome to factory workers anonymous. :)
Sean1708 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:36:52 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, what happened to your face?!
bcgoss ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:13:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit uses Markdown for formatting. The Carrot symbol translates the following word into superscript
:^) -> :)
Sean1708 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:22:23 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Actually reddit uses an extended markdown format, the original implementation doesn't support superscript.
cestith ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:08 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually "caret" (or "circumflex") and "carrot" is an old ASCII art pun.
Also, you didn't point out that one can backslash-escape Markdown special characters.
:\^) gives us :^)
nuclearwaffle121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
And :\\\^) gives us :\^). Because you have to escape the caret AND the backslash.
BostonianLoser ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:44:58 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He had a stroke, and is very sensitive about it, asshole.
Sean1708 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:50:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
We all masturbate occasionally, it's no excuse to go round pulling faces like that!
PM_ME_BALD_BEAVERS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:49 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
IK Enemkpali sucker punched him.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:39:36 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
somebody should have told joe about macros. shit.
NorbiPeti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:34 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
/r/thebutton
theredcameron ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 12:22:03 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
"You can get this done today, right? Right?"
๐๏ธ SweanS ยท 189 points ยท Posted at 12:22:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah sure!
click
bretfort ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 13:21:17 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
There there, you just turned on that other bug.
SleepyHarry ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 14:34:47 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It's like that fucking team rocket basement with all the switches.
Jay_Go_Hard ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:42:32 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Too close to home man...
Too close...
phaseMonkey ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 14:18:36 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Next week:
"Huh... I thought I fixed that. Must have been somewhere else in the code..."
๐๏ธ SweanS ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 15:16:41 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
This is too close to real life...
taylorha ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:19:25 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
This was me for the past 2 days until about 5 minutes ago. I look forward to discovering what new and exciting ways I've broke it with this fix.
AGenericUsername1004 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:14:38 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Shit! Forgot to commit it to the main trunk and another client has just been released the non fixed version. Balls.
cestith ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:01:07 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen this typed into a conversation almost verbatim. It turns out he did fix it and it was somewhere else in the code. The code was copypasta from one place to another rather than factored into a subroutine.
The programmer doing maintenance initially found and fixed one copy and not the other. This caused the bug to be fixed in one code path, for which he tested after the fix, and not the other. When it was discovered the other code was identical to the previous version he'd fixed, he requested a full two days to modularize the whole project. The decision was made to just factor out this part using the fixed logic and to keep an eye out for future redundancies.
phaseMonkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly... "Keep your branches in order, kids"
DrummerHead ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:34:32 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
You just have to flip the switch
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:24:25 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
i like this guy, i shall watch more from him, the end.
DrummerHead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:51:59 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Brian Regan is one of the best comedians, you can't go wrong
desmonduz ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 13:07:01 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, reminds me my boss. It is 8 pm already, boss leaves home saying exactly this.
"Yes, sir. I have no private life, no family and no other interests other than programming and thinking about how this critical bug may affect company's overall reputation and make me look as a shitty programmer who can destroy everything by simply overlooking some shitty bug.". Shit, what am I doing with my life?
Vakieh ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 13:21:15 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Lolwut? 8pm?
If I'm working at 8pm and my boss isn't heading out to bring a 6-pack and pizza back, guess who's heading out at the same time... this guy.
pcopley ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 13:28:56 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
If it's 8pm and my boss is leaving I'm asking my boss what the hell he's doing in my house.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 13:42:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Your wife
pcopley ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 13:47:31 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He was supposed to be done by 6.
Vakieh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:50:10 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, normally I'd be the same, but I've worked places I enjoyed what I was doing enough that crunch time overnighters (with the boss pitching in and supplying said beer + pizza) weren't out of the question.
Made for some nice overtime pay on top too.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 13:22:18 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He's hinting you should go home, probably saying it sarcastically. Typically bosses will want you to get decent personal time so you won't burn out. When they're actually mad at you, they'll yell, have a heart to heart meeting, or just fire you.
desmonduz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:39:20 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He usually says that knowing exactly that the issue won't be fixed today. And for the last 7 years, he is ok with this. But it just leaves you in a bit shitty mood, though.
I agree if there is a real fuck up, it is different. It is usually a tough talk with top management. But I have to admit, boss usually defends me and the rest of his team in such talks and most of the time takes all the responsibility. And this makes you as a human to care more about your work. And it goes deeper and deeper, until you realise that it is 8 pm, and you don't want another fuck up like it happened 2 months ago.
phaseMonkey ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:19:38 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That's why they hire young programmers vs older programmers
bretfort ยท 822 points ยท Posted at 12:27:03 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
My boss once asked me to secure my code when I leave the office because it seems a lot of bugs get inside at night.
edit: no he was not joking, was not being sarcastic, he was just trying to fit in. he's not a technical guy.
DrummerHead ยท 524 points ยท Posted at 12:37:20 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I always clear the cookies when I leave, they attract a lot of bugs
debazthed ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 13:47:01 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Have you tried gluten free? The bugs hate those.
phaseMonkey ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 14:16:14 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Woman programmer in your area used this one weird trick to remove her bugs.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 14:24:16 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
*single working mum
phaseMonkey ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:26:28 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
... of 3
trixter21992251 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:40:06 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
3 orphans
lenswipe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:22 on November 10, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
and their wrinkle cream
SpinahVieh ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:13:13 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
And debuggers hate her.
ketralnis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:00 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That's because everyone hates those
vbullinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:20 on September 14, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. Just swap out regular flour for coconut flour and you should be good. That sounds like it would taste better. Also, I've noticed those gluten-free areas look like they have better-tasting food. Gluten is always found in filler junk, not high-quality food.
hungry4pie ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:44:13 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I would actually love to make it to senior developer or project manager one day just so I can mess with the juniors like that. Or maybe do a code review and nail them because it's not valid Turbo Pascal code.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
If you give a bug a cookie...
Nulono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:05 on November 22, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
*;
phaseMonkey ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:14:57 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Either your boss has a sense of humor, or was a McDonald's manager before becoming your boss.
bretfort ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:29:08 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
My Boss is an Industrial Engineering Bachelor, and he applies same strategies over here.
CursedJonas ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 13:32:55 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
This is where the word bug came from originally
The first computers had massive light bulbs that worked as transistors. Bugs would fly to the light, get fried and mess up the computer, because there was a "bug"
threevaluelogic ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 13:59:50 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Actually true:
In 1946, when Hopper was released from active duty, she joined the Harvard Faculty at the Computation Laboratory where she continued her work on the Mark II and Mark III. She traced an error in the Mark II to a moth trapped in a relay, coining the term bug. This bug was carefully removed and taped to the log book. Stemming from the first bug, today we call errors or glitch's in a program a bug.
http://ei.cs.vt.edu/~history/Hopper.Danis.html
[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 16:18:06 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a myth! The term bug predates that by a long time.
Here's Thomas Edison, 1878:
Even the term 'debugging' dates back to the 1920s, to describe the diagnostic processes of aircraft mechanics.
If you read the logbook that the Hopper bug is taped to, it actually says "First actual case of a bug being found!" -- they were already familiar with the term 'bug' to describe a mysterious glitch in a device and were laughing that this time, the bug was actually a physical bug. The guy who found the bug, taped it down, and wrote the note was a colleague of Hopper's called Bill Burke. Hopper recounted the story, and people recounted Hopper recounting the story, and magazines recounted people recounting Hopper recounting the story, and over time it went from "Hopper's colleague found a bug that was literally a bug, how funny!" to "Hopper found a bug that was literally a bug!" to "Hopper coined the term bug!"
odraencoded ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 16:36:57 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
History fight!
Dlgredael ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:36:18 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Bring it bitch
AfterLemon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Emancipation!
hax_wut ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:08:45 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
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rgarrett88 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:02:54 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Source I remember seeing this when I visited Harvard. Luckily the whole exhibit is online.
bob_johnson_44 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:44:24 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It is still the first recorded use of the term in relation to programming, so in a way you're both right
Sabrovitch ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:00:33 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Uh no. Actually "beuhg" is an Amharic word that means "problem".
It's famous for being used by Bahri Negassi Yeshaq during the Adal-Ethiopia war, when he first saw Ottoman armies approaching; the Empire was at that time the biggest world power.
There are some sources that say that "debugging" comes from that time, but "de" isn't Amharic at all. I think it's a made-up story to try to link our modern usage of the "debugging" word, when it's in fact a new word made-up of the "de" preposition of the English language (and Latin languages too), added onto the "beuhg" root that has been anglicized so as to not look weird to Anglo eyes.
hazju1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:30:13 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha! I never knew the bug was actually taped into the log book.
superspeck ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 15:36:54 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
These days, we'd scan it and attach it to the JIRA ticket.
-Rizhiy- ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:33:48 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
While this might be true, the term 'bug' was used to denote small mistakes long before first computers.
MoreCowbellPlease ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 15:12:13 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes a bug is a feature.
http://i.imgur.com/MdzkRcR.jpg
PolygonMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:48 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
"A fly in the ointment"
tonydrago ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:51:43 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard this is an urban legend
galorin ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 13:58:59 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Etymology
ryanplant-au ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:21:15 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Your quote comes from a quotation inside the article which the article is using as an example of an often-repeated but incorrect. Right before your excerpt it says
'Bug' as a term for mysterious and unwanted problem in a machine dates back to the 1870s and 'debugging' as a term for discovering and fixing those problems dates back to WW1.
The entire reason they preserved and joked about the Mark II bug was because that time the bug turned out to literally be a bug.
galorin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:21 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Adds to the charm, don't you think?
-Rizhiy- ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:31:16 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
While that incident did occur it clearly says beforehand that term 'bug' was used to denote small mistakes long before-hand, so the second part of the quote is incorrect.
akatherder ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:11:36 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Entomology?
phaseMonkey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:17:26 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Quick, let's bring in /r/Entomology for a webex to discuss why our project is full of bugs!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:11:41 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/Cartoon.jpg
chateau86 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:32:39 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Proper source
xkcd_transcriber ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:24 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Image
Title: Wrong Superhero
Title-text: Hi! Someone call for me? I'm a superhero who specializes in the study of God's creation of Man in the Book of Genesi-- HOLY SHIT A GIANT BUG!
Comic Explanation
Stats: This comic has been referenced 79 times, representing 0.1041% of referenced xkcds.
xkcd.com | xkcdย sub | Problems/Bugs? | Statistics | Stopย Replying | Delete
galorin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:22:57 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Entomology is the study of insects.
There was an episode of Phineas and Ferb with that distinction in it.
maxitux ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:44:27 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Whoosh
galorin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:06 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I think I deserved that. It's late, coffee supplies are dwindling, and I've been fighting with OSG::matrix translations and scrolling all day.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:51 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/Cartoon.jpg
bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:08 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
thanks /u/unidian of ProgrammerHumor, * wipes tear drop *
5225225 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:25 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Quick, register the account /u/CursedJonasX!
Maddin143 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:24 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
i know it as: bugs would come and eat the punchcards used in calculating. The holes would then be on the wrong place or not readable for the computer, messing with the calculations.
nemec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:26 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I always thought it stemmed from programmers staying up through the night like Vampires (bats) and making mistakes because they were so tired.
___WE-ARE-GROOT___ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:57:22 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if that's actually true though.
phaseMonkey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:17:43 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
/r/thatreallyhappened
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:15:10 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
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PantsB ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:25:16 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I can just imagine this story being told and no one having the heart to translate it to "Stop being a fuckup" from courteous boss-ese
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 13:20:15 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
gods bless stupid people with a lot of money.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:45:24 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
sounds like he was joking,
NorbiPeti ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:06:40 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
God bless me with a lot of money. I want lot of money.
krokodil2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:02 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
ELI12: /u/bretfort 's code sucks because he does not check his code for errors on the same day he writes the code. So the next day people find many bugs in it.
bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Those bugs include:
etc.
After QA check whenever new issues/UI cosmetics are logged, he usually thinks this is something which happened overnight. And most of those aren't even linked to my development as we work in a collaborated environment, and I am the lead.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:03 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Better than not having anyone do QA. I finish my QA and no one ever makes a peep. Then we launch and have to rollback because X didn't work.
bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:27 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
appropriate username.
krokodil2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:01 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
So he wasn't actually joking? Jesus.
bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:37 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He tries to fit in by using tech terms, he's an intelligent guy but an Industrial Engineer, he takes software life cycle as if something is on a container belt and requirement change is something he totally forgets.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:01:11 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
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bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:18 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Happens all the time.
frank26080115 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:27:10 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually somewhat reasonable if the rest of your security is horrible
Neapolitan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:07 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Note to self: Install mosquito netting over workstation.
note-to-self-bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:51 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
A friendly reminder:
Install mosquito netting over workstation.
wimpykid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:10:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you lying?
bretfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:06 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
good ol times, the bug reports we used to see you won't even believe. And the QA would pass most builds and whenever there's an FC or RC they'll come up with shitload of unresolved issues which they've been hiding in their armpits.
FlowersOfSin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:23 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Here I thought my boss was an idiot for telling me to test my stuff along the way so that we won't waste time with a debugging sprint at the end.
LWdkw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That... is actually a very good practice.
FlowersOfSin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:46:28 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, of course, that wasn't my point. My point was that my boss was assuming that we didn't test our code. We do. However, module A and module B can be flawlessly coded on their own, it doesn't mean that there won't be bugs in their interaction. Now add to this module C, D and E made from worker 2 and module X, Y and Z made my worker 3, then add all the freak cases like lost of connection at a very specific moment or weird device specs... You are bound to have bugs.
LWdkw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:06 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, that part I agree with :).
I_like_turtles_kid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:42 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
At least your boss doesn't pretend she knows what she's talking about like mine does
Swampfunk ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 13:47:08 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Someone needs to make a working version of this...and every time you flip one of the bugs to off, another one turns to on.
That's more like development.
๐๏ธ SweanS ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 14:55:55 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I tried my best
scratchisthebest ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 16:40:43 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is more accurate โ http://codepen.io/quat/full/BNbeaV/
Swampfunk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:30:30 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Also very awesome! Well done!
lingual_panda ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:13:40 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I died
scratchisthebest ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:44:46 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That isn't good! Might wanna go get that checked.
Excrubulent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:10 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
I feel like I'm missing out here, when I click on that all I get is a white page with
in the top right corner. What am I doing wrong?
EDIT: Top left corner. We read from left to right, don't you know.
scratchisthebest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:55 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that's weird. Is Javascript enabled?
Excrubulent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:38:01 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, apparently Firefox was protecting me from insecure content. Maybe it just knew the evil that awaited.
kisspunch ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:57:56 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It's bugged. It'll sometimes flip the same switch you clicked.
Please handle this. I promised the client a killer app.
PirateMud ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:14:13 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
When he changed that, it started flipping other switches in directions not unflippable.
Swampfunk ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:17:48 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually pretty darn good! Thank you!
SystemicPlural ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:10:29 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Muwhahaha
flacflac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:15 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That was evil.
icomputertinker ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:53:59 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god NO!
So accurate
barcodescanner ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:30:10 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Brilliant!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:15 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That's a fancy site. What's the point? To run web stuff without fucking with linking files?
suicidal_lemming ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:23:11 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
To demonstrate or play around with code snippets. Similar sites are used a lot on stackoverflow and such to show someone what a bit of code will do.
wowmuchbased ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:34 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
now when a button is clicked, trigger a random number of buttons to change
YM_Industries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:16 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
Sometimes the bug it turns on is already on, so I kept clicking for a while and got it down to one bug. Kinda like actual programming.
Nikoli_Delphinki ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:46:19 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It is like playing "Lights Out"
HookahComputer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:51:44 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Many have.
ipretendiamacat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:58:58 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I find hitting random buttons as quickly as possible to be the optimal strategy for that game and programming.
threevaluelogic ยท 177 points ยท Posted at 13:58:17 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
My boss told me once "programming can't be that hard. It is just a load of 1s and 0s on a computer somewhere!"
[deleted] ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 14:30:24 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
My top kek boss comment is:
"Programming is pretty easy, right? I mean, you always have the backspace key."
Frank2312 ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 14:59:24 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, let me put my finger on the backspace key and lay it there for hours.
Then you can say "Good bye" to your very niche and complicated software your company can't live without.
TheSlimyDog ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 15:44:42 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Well a real programmer would automate that process... With a tequila bottle or something.
PM_me_account_names ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:24:03 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Tres comas. You know what that means?
DoesntWearEnoughHats ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:59:15 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That gets you kicked out of the triple comma club
ajsadler ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:13:24 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
http://i.imgur.com/4tbs1lo.gif
Fetrinol ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:06:45 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Hate to be this guy but what is the reference?
ajsadler ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:40:05 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Silicon Valley
Fetrinol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:28 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit, I watched that episode too...
butler1233 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:28 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
And then you can delete the 1s and 0s faster than anybody else could have
TedFartass ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:24:42 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
this guy fucks
5225225 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:10:28 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
20 characters per second backspace, (20 * 60 * 60 * 4) / 25 =
~10k lines deleted in 4 hours. Assuming an average of 25 characters per line.
ImAPyromaniac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:29 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Umm... I'd say lots more than 25 characters per line.
5225225 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:01:48 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Including blank lines. I was going off some linux kernel source code, and it averaged out to ~25 characters per line.
ImAPyromaniac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:25 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, so that was like a scientific type thing, huh?
5225225 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:08 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
cat *.c | wc -c/cat *.c | wc -lYeah, that's basically it.
ImAPyromaniac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:14 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I have a strange desire to run that on the whole npm registry.
5225225 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:41 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I just ran it across the entirety of the linux source code, and not just some random folder. 27.0 characters per line.
isurujn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:46:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me you didn't feel like this at that time.
tesla1889 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:32:29 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
or this
NeverGotWhooshed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:22 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
can't undo irl
sp106 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:14 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I get what he's saying there and it's completely correct.
Extrapolating that to mean that programming is easy is incorrect, but the fact that most mistakes and oversights can be safely self-caught later is a luxury that a lot of jobs don't get.
Carve too deep in a piece of wood and you need to start the fuck over. Spill paint on a car and the whole paint job is ruined. Drop a piece of machinery and it breaks. Use the wrong syntax then compile?
gospelwut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:45 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I wish there was an algo called top kek.
randumbaccount_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:52 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Brarsh ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:26:41 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah, we're only dealing with a few billion so it's not that bad. Let me take a look through them and I'll have it fixed by lunch time."
laaanis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:37:38 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Top quote in my team: it's just code, right?
hahahahastayingalive ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:52:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I quite like this way of thinking actually. "It's just money, right?" "It's just a contract, right?" "It's just personal data, right ?"
It's the best way to put things back into perspective IMO
Chizbang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:01 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I think I might live my life by this from now on... Think of how trivial everything could be!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:52 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I blame the school system not keeping up with technology.
DrKC9N ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 12:30:15 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Then what business does he have managing programmers?
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 13:10:05 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
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nevus_bock ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 13:40:30 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That's oddly poetic
LeftFo0t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:35 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
lol
garfunkle21 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:14:51 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
In some places, unless you're a rockstar programmer you plateau anyway.. I guess the answer is.. find somewhere else!
01hair ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 13:20:27 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
No, you don't plateau, you sleep with a Greek philosopher!
paperziggurat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:41 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Plato?
[deleted] ยท -45 points ยท Posted at 13:34:17 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
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garfunkle21 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:03:00 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
What's up with you? Your post history is so aggressive.
Sean1708 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:47:30 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Even the positive ones are aggressive.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:15:28 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Understanding good management doesn't require deep understanding of the tasks, so long as there is trust between management and the workers.
endlessmilk ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 13:22:34 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't require a deep understanding, but it certainly requires some understanding.
DrKC9N ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:33:19 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, but viewing bugs as on/off switches means the manager doesn't trust the worker's estimate of how complex a fix is.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:56:42 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
haha this guy
BlahYourHamster ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 12:34:07 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
He's probably make use of the new features in C# 6.
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 14:12:55 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Hang on, is that a real thing? Catching exceptions conditionally?
Cogniphile ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 14:18:17 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Yes they're exception filters new in c# 6.0
Obviously they're not supposed to be used in that way
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 14:27:24 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Whats their usecase then?
Cogniphile ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 14:33:49 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
You could handle some exceptions by error message, id, etc and let others that don't match pass through to a higher level. Also it might be arguable to do so, but you could also use methods with effects such as logging or conditional returns for debug vs release etc
It's just syntactic sugar though, you could do all of this just with an if statement inside the catch and a throw; in an else
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:38:31 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
of course its just syntactic sugar, but it looks like it might do more harm than good.
JoshVarty ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 15:36:09 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It's more than syntactic sugar actually. It preserves the stack where as conditionally rethrowing does not.
For more: http://www.thomaslevesque.com/2015/06/21/exception-filters-in-c-6/
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:45:39 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
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MultiplePermutations ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:28 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
As far as I understand from the article, the difference is only relevant if investigating a crash dump of the application.
While this can hold interesting information, this would only become relevant if the exception is completely uncaught, thus causing the program to crash.
wievid ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:07:34 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
... what was it again about great power and responsibility?
mrhhug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:47 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Why use a handshake when you have a nuke?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:29:33 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, he's gonna love the null chaining operator.
Cogniphile ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:37:27 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Null chaining, nameof, and auto-property initialization are all things that almost any project can find great use for. My most recent project had tons of OnPropertyChanged calls that nameof would have made much cleaner.
a_kogi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:14:53 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of using nameof you can use [CallerMemberName] of C#5.
Put this in your base viewmodel and then simply call OnPropertyChanged(); from the setter. It will resolve calling property name, null-check event and fire it with correct args.
Cogniphile ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:31:32 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Mind... blown. Thanks man, that's really awesome.
Daniel15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:56 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
For what it's worth, VB.NET (and thus CIL) already supported it, Microsoft just added C# syntax for it.
gospelwut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:14 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
That's probably what they said about TCP/IP and media streaming/jumbo frames.
Maddin143 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:21 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
new meta!
Qwirk ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:41:13 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
If this is true, you need to sell yourself to your boss better. I would suggest starting slow with a broad overview of what you have been doing and how you have been completing tasks.
If they don't see your correct value to the company, your promotions, bonus or pay increase will reflect this.
Kusibu ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 14:49:07 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
presses second switch
"Stanley glanced at the clock in his office. My goodness, it was nearly six, and he was supposed to be done with his job at five! He got up from his desk and stepped out of his office."
presses second switch
"But as he was leaving, he remembered a very important project that he simply had to get done before the deadline-"
presses second switch
"yet Stanley didn't return to his office. His wife was waiting at home, and he didn't want to keep her waiting, now did he?"
presses second switch
"But after standing there for a moment considering what he had done, he decided that having a job would help his wife much more than getting home early."
"He returned to his office, sat down in his chair, and awaited the next command."
AGenericUsername1004 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:19:56 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
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Kusibu ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:25:26 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
88888888 "Eight"
HaulCozen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:36:01 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 14:23:50 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
I LIKE KITTENS.
qervem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:38 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
But... your lines of code don't necessarily increase with the errors...
ameoba ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:38:39 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
So you're a project manager?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:16:39 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I use this program.
peter_bolton ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:46:45 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny how what you say and what the manager hears can be two completely different things.
Zennistrad ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:44:40 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Is this one of those puzzles where toggling each switch causes two more to toggle and you have to find out how to get them all toggled off?
Nvrnight ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:37:42 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
It's like the game of Lights Out right? You turned one switch off, and the adjacent switches flip?
dimsuz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:06:59 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Often "What I actually do:" can be described by the same image...
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:32:08 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
What I actually do
lingual_panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:09 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
If we switch off all the features I'm sure that'll get rid of all the bugs.
Pdb39 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:23:07 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
--Uncomment and run on the day you finally move on for greener pa$tures
-- UPDATE tblBugs SET Is_Active = 'Yes'; -- COMMIT;
gospelwut ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:41:14 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
We promised a client. Gonna need you to fix it ASAP.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:10:20 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I thought this was going to be another one of those six panel, "This is what my friends think I do, this is what my mom thinks I do, etc."
Thank god.
rscarson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:05:56 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Oooh I know this game; It's the one where the switches control a random set of other switches too, right?
HRHill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:15:33 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
"Ok, QA states that whenever someone enters a decimal number in the third field the receptionist shits her pants."
"Well switch that bug off, then."
calthegeek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:48:37 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I remember someone reported a bug in the school app of our school (which I made) in the morning right before class and I had class with him the last block and he was like "Hey, have you fixed yet?" and I was like "No" then he was like "Go fix it now then" as if I can just press a button and fix everything.
027915 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:57:41 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
came from /r/all and i have no idea what i'm looking at.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:04:52 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
So those buttons in the picture are to turn on and off something. It's a joke because the boss just imagines it's as simple as turning off a bug and turning another one on. When in fact debugging is a pain
๐๏ธ SweanS ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:08:43 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
My boss literally thinks I put in bugs on purpose.
Brarsh ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:30:29 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, you're a programmer. How do you not know how every line of code will work with every other line of code in every feasible situation?
Sounds like you need to go back to coding camp.
tashtrac ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:28 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, proper encapsulation, robust interfaces and generally following good design practises should shield you from most of bugs coming out of nowhere.
programming_monkey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:30:11 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Wait...you don't?
027915 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:02 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
gotcha! thanks for the clarification.
Sylanthra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:26 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget that switches are linked and flipping one will also flip the adjacent ones.
igorgl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:10 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
And here is what I actually do.
Brarsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:21 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It's really more like this.
southerncrossnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:11 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I had one ask me "Do you compile?"
labdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:54 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
And in fact... He's right.
yyjd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:00 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I like bug #420
ecbuffalo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:28 on August 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I am probably naive but I refuse to do a job where my supervisor is incapable of doing that job. I am not saying they need to be able to step in and immediately be able to do the job, but if they flat out can't do it, I don't want them judging my ability to do said job
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:35:29 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
he thinks you makes ugly shit user interfaces?
fatdaddy1954 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:57:37 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
we need one of these for IT
gnovos ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:32:25 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Here's my version:
Bug #420 [YES]
SeerUD ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:58 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Funnily enough, you actually did do this, this time.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 16:22:25 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)*
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OrShUnderscore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:00 on August 11, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
In many instances, there's no need to re-invent the wheel. In fact, adopting large peer-reviewed open source software is beneficial in the aspect that 1. It's literally free, and 2. A large community behind it can detect and squash bugs from miles away/ and provide support for no cost.