๐๏ธ w2555 ยท 140881 points ยท Posted at 23:48:09 on February 19, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I had a phone interview scheduled this morning, but accidentally slept through it. When I got up and saw that I missed it, I had the desperate urge to call and offer up excuses, in the hope that maybe, just maybe, they'd be understanding and give me another chance.
Instead, all I did was apologize and ask if we could reschedule. That's it, one sentence, no additional information, no explanation or excuse as to why I missed the first interview.
They replied within 20 minutes, apologizing to ME, saying it was probably their fault, that they'd been having trouble with their computer system for days, and of course I could reschedule, was I available that afternoon?
Don't ever volunteer information, kids. You never know what information the other party has, and you can always give information if asked for it later.
Edit: what the shit. 107k upvotes and top post of all time on LPT, all because I overslept
keepthetips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:11 on February 19, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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Joyful_Fucker ยท 13534 points ยท Posted at 01:21:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best advice ever.
โMake a simple, concise statement. And then STOP TALKING.โ
Brillegeit ยท 2531 points ยท Posted at 03:55:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
RIP Sir Galahad of Camelot.
rarity101x ยท 466 points ยท Posted at 08:25:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
HAHAH.. that was great! I've never actually seen that film before. Perhaps ill watch it
TheArtofWall ยท 427 points ยท Posted at 08:39:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There is no doubt, if anyone likes comedy they should watch it at least once. It is a true classic that so many fall in love with. In the 8th grade alone, I probably saw it 100 times. If you don't know them, the Monty Python comedy troupe had a sketch- comedy series called "Flying Circus" that was massively influential.
DerPelzer ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 09:54:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
hi should I watch the series "flying circus" or the film "holy grail" first?
Harkekark ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 10:31:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'd start out with Holy Grail, then watch Life of Brian, and after that watch Flying Circus and Meaning of Life in whatever order you like.
AgitatedLiverMan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 11:07:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What about "And now for something completely different?"
Harkekark ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 11:19:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not really necessary if you've seen Flying Circus, but it's a good option for when you want to do a rewatch without going through the full series.
cjg5025 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:59:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I IMAGINE YOUD RATHER BE AT HOME, WATCHING MONTY PYTHON INSTEAD OF MARCHING UP-AND-DOWN THE SQUARE?!?!
Thenewdazzledentway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:03:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
All right, off you go!
ImpendingSenseOfDoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, I probably did it in the exact reverse order of that. Still great!
Spacelevator420 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:01 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I rewatched the life of Brian recently and the humour has aged poorly. Not so funny anymore
TheArtofWall ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 10:38:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Holy grail. It's the most universally loved. Also, it is the entry point of nearly everyone that was born after their heyday, such as myself. I don't even think I've seen the whole Flying Circus, just seen it a bunch over the years.
Oh wait, there are some particular classic skits you can watch, they are short so doesn't matter if you watch them first or later.
Dead Parrot, Ministry of Funny Walks, Argument Clinic, and singalong fav The Lumberjack Song. The latter one might be a little dated, though still a classic and still funny. The first three will never be dated.
enjoy! I'd love to see these for the 1st time, again, haha!
bibliovalkyrie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:54:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I 100% agree with your assessment!
And The Spanish Inquisition is another amazing skit that I feel is worth a mention.
zwiiz2 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:36:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This comment was totally unexpected.
jaidit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:54:15 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cheese Shop.
Itโs the platonic absolute of comedy, if you ask me. Even Dead Parrot has lines that, out of context, are clearly from a comic sketch, but Cheese Shop? Rarely has even the simplest of jokes, such as the reference to Venezuelan beaver cheese. โNot today, sir.โ
โHave you got any cheese?โ
โItโs a cheese shop, sir. Finest in the district!โ
โExplain the logic underlying that distinction.โ
โItโs so clean.โ
jeremyhoffman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:46 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Well it's certainly uncontaminated by cheese."
One of my favorite lines of all time. Brilliant absurdity. Love John Cleese's dry British disdain.
Loved your write-up of what makes Cheese Shop so great, u/jaidit.
Cheese Shop on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Hz1JWzyvv8A
jaidit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:17 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I considered including that line. Again, out of context it isnโt funny. In context, itโs uproarious.
There is a story that during the premiere performance of The Importance of Being Earnest after the actor playing Jackโs butler spoke the line โA Mr. Ernest Worthington to see you, sirโ Wilde encountered him backstage and said, โIโm so glad you got the laugh. It shows theyโre following the plot.โ
Again, out of context there is nothing funny about the line. In context it gets a laugh.
jeremyhoffman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:11 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm intrigued. I'll have to see it some time.
TheArtofWall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:38 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah. I forgot about that one. Great one!
Grantoid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:32:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They are unrelated but I'd watch Holy Grail as it's much shorter to watch a movie than an entire series
bastardson9090 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:33:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Holy Grail. After that the Life of Brian. Then if you realllly like them, watch the show
alabasterwilliams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:41 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
After you've watched everything else, finish with Fawlty Towers, John Cleese is a genious in that show.
OscarRoro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When watching Flying Circus don't expect much. There are some funny moments but a lot of the episodes are pretty boring. I love The Monthy Python but sometimes people go watch them and they are disappointed because they were told other things by friends.
chippingsodbury ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:28:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The albums they recorded in the '70s are better than the tv shows or the films imo. They are extremely well recorded, they sound far better rehearsed, there's no boring bits (or hardly any)..... and they're absolutely hilarious.
Monty Pythons' Previous Record
Another Monty Python Record
Matching Tie and Hankerchief
Live At Drury Lane
....are the main ones to look out for.
doctorproctorson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard any of their albums. I'll find out if you're lying or not about them being good though
Seriously though thanks, gonna give em a go today
chippingsodbury ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:00:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, I'm serious. I find the albums very very funny. When they came out it was the only way to routinely experience Python. The TV series weren't repeated that often and videos and dvds didn't exist ... so we used to play the albums over and over.
Another thing about the vinyl editions - they all had strange and surreal sleeves. You have to see them in real life to get what I mean. Someone worked hard on the design. The whole concept of weirdness was carried though.
If you like the songs they did then there's a 'Monty Python Sings' compilation. Eric Idle wrote some extremely clever songs .... the Philosophers Song and Eric The Half A Bee spring to mind.
I bought all the albums all on CD recently as I saw them cheap ........ but you have to see the original vinyl editions for the real Pythonesque trip.
OscarRoro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never knew about them, where should I go to watch them 'cause for the moment I usually used Netflix.
Thanks!
chippingsodbury ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They are recorded albums, so you don't watch them - you listen to them. They might be on a streaming service I suppose, like Spotify. Or you can find cheap CDs quite easily. I bought a bunch recently for a pound or two. The best way is to find the original vinyl records.... the sleeves are masterpieces of surrealism and you get a lot of weird extras with them. If you google those titles I mentioned you can see what they look like.
HULK_SIZED_DILDO ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:54:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Your subdued and to-the-point explanation of Monty Python is an intelligent strategy to entice potential new enthusiasts. I usually become loud, irate, disturbed, and fanatical while I attempt to verbally describe a silly walk.
BuildMajor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a reference?
HULK_SIZED_DILDO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Silly walks is a reference to one of their famous sketches called โministry of silly walksโ
Batman0127 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 08:53:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
it's imo the greatest comedy of all time. truly a masterpiece. first time I see it was with a bunch of friends and we were in stitches the entire time. fantastic
gnomhild ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:29:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget Life of Brian
Notorious4CHAN ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:50:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or The Meaning of Life. I don't know that it's as good as the others, but it has some great moments.
TabulaRasaNot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:03:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When you're a human, you have to know these things.
TheArtofWall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Name checks out
I_just_made ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:20:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Life of Brian" was an excellent one as well!
tobaknowsss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:29:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โWe are no longer the knights who say Ni! We are now the knights who say ekki-ekki-ekki-pitang-zoom-boing!โ
TheArtofWall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, man. I can see why some might not find that funny. But it works for me!
tinyfisch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I never found monty python very funny, and its because of stuff like this. The silliness really gets old quickly for me. Its all cross-dressing funny voices zany characters comedy which isnt really my thing.
illthatbeast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โThat rabbitโs dynamite!โ
DivinePhoenixSr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I cant find it anywhere, I've wanted to watch it for years:(
doctorproctorson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When you say "cant find it anywhere" what do you mean? It's in Netflix in the US at least(idk where you live tho) but it is on a lot of streaming sites if you google it.
Also, you can buy the boxset for like $30-40.
Hope you get the chance to watch it though. I'll be honest, a lot of it isnt that funny but the parts that are funny, are hilarious
DivinePhoenixSr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been able to find it on Netflix and I'm from the South.
doctorproctorson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
South as in the US, right? I'm in NC and netflix has like every Monty Python movie/show on it. Life of Brian, Holy Grail, Flying Circus...
For some reason they dont have the Meaning of Life tho
sprite333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Things like this almost, almost make me understand boomers. My knee jerk reaction is to get angry when people haven't heard of Monty Python but then I realize that it's literally just a generational gap. Nobody's fault. We were just born at different times.
Bunsy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:36 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My 10-year old son loves the Flying Circus and the Holy Grail. Thanks to Netflix! Heโs now one of those people who quote Monty Python lines with a British accent, like: โGet on with it!โ and โThey are not coconuts!โ
sprite333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:24 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Haha that's awesome
alabasterwilliams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:07 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong comment, sry
macsydh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There are people that don't know Monty Python?
Seicair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:15:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant XKCD
TheArtofWall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone's young once.
CJT124 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 11:36:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never saw the hype tbh. It and life of Brian were absolute slogs to get through. Only watched them because I had a flight
gardnsound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
oof, ur karma is gonna have a bad time.
tinyfisch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah i agree with you at least. I hate all the funny voices and silliness, really just drags on in my opinion. Of course it was quite groundbreaking at the time, but it holds up poorly imo.
tomesenior ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:52:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with Monty Python is that it isnโt actually funny (some bits of the life of Brian excepted).
Voyaga2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If I recall correctly, I saw it way back in 8th grade, it was stupid/silly funny. Ya know, like the kind of fun you have when you're purely just fucking around.
Idk, I've never seen it as an intelligent comedy, but more of a pure enjoyable journey of absurdness and irony
Edit: im gonna go watch it again to see if my new perspectives gives me any insight on the film! After this Lord of the rings stuff tho
Laranna ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:05:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Life of Brian is also great hut that one pokes fun at religion so its a harder pill for some to swallow. But i was in stitches for a huge chunk of the whole thing, both on Netflix
Definitely start with Holy Grail
wedonotglow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:30:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Incontinentia Buttocks!
doctorproctorson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
It seems like the whole Monty Python collection is on Netflix in the US. They got Flying Circus too and (I believe) some of their other collections of skits too
Edit:they have some live shows and "the best of"s No The Meaning of Life tho
kanakaya ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:06:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's on netflix if you have it, its probably on YouTube somewhere, or at least every clip in individual parts
Hardened_Demon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:35:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're in for a treat.
nadalofsoccer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:50:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's better in snipets IMO I liked it but every joke kind of drags a bit. Just so you know.
CurryMustard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a movie that should be watched once. I felt the same way the first time I saw it. It literally got funnier with each subsequent viewing.
Needmeawhip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Its one of my fav movies of all time
mako-jaeger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is not seeing the film even legal?
teasus_spiced ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It is, without doubt, my favourite film of all time. I rarely watch anything more than once, but I've seen it so many times I can recite great tracts of it.
East2West21 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:02:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably the best film ever made
mikelray91 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:37:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I love how the seemingly irrelevant and ridiculous conversation from earlier in the movie ends up macguffining them through to the end of the film.
StonyTark3000 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:36:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Blue. No yelllooooooow!"
TheArtofWall ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:35:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That cliffhanger, though
Harkekark ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:33:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cliffhanger? It's the resolution to the murder investigation that's been ongoing for the full length of the film.
PlasticMac ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:10:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It was quite literally โa cop outโ. They ran out of money and needed a way to finish the film.
drad1980 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:43:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One of the best movies I've watched in my life. I just adore Monty Python :)
Skeith23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:24:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
100% this
thyghlander ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:53 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When king arthurs gold was being developed one of the community nominated steam awards is "what.. is your favourite colour?"
I was the one that nominated it, amazingly it got in and now you get that achievement for changing teams
Markdekw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Accurate
vEnoM_420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:06 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ROFL! Funniest shit I have seen today. Thanks.
dukenheim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:35 on February 27, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ni!
commodore_kierkepwn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:30 on February 27, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought โHow do you knoewww so much about swallows?โ Was hilarious
republican_oyster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:22:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
cumming lots was his issue, don't close things
CandidCandyman ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 07:32:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
This is especially true when handling any kind of a government or city official, regardless of a country, ESPECIALLY at customs. Those guys will piss all over your plans for a mere suspicion.
BeakMeat ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:59:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Went to Canada.
Had a piece of pottery in my bag that I had made for a friend.
"What's in your bag?"
"A pot"
"POT!?!?!?!?!?!?" (ugly face)
"A pot. Pottery I made. To give to my friend I am visiting..."
"Let's see inside that bag then...."
CandidCandyman ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 08:17:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Q1. A customs officer asks you what is in the bag. Choose the correct answer:
(a) My belongings
(b) My underpants
(c) Pot x
Bodhisattva9001 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:34:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
SO THERE WAS POT! I KNEW IT!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:02:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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t3hnhoj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:26:48 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes hello this is Canadian FBI. Open up.
lofibunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:06 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But how did they react when it was actually just a pot lmao
Also, a friend of mine and her bf ended up in America by ACCIDENT a few days ago. Both of them fell asleep on the bus and woke up in Buffalo. Neither had a passport and both had weed. I truly donโt understand
Noobdefeater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:27 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How the heck do you fix that since they likely wont let you back across the border without a passport? Just fall asleep on another bus?
agoia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Flew into Germany. Was about to go through customs reading the list of prohibited items. Many of the snacks and stuff I was bringing from the US to my brother in the Army probably counted on that list. I walk through customs, they ask if I have anything to declare or whatever, I smile and shrug, they wave me through.
CandidCandyman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:07 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually what I do as well, but more often they just direct you straight to the x-ray. You got lucky.
MilkyLikeCereal ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 07:22:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am declining to speak first.
gemininightmare ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:34:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedoffice
TRichisGOD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:54:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is it really ever unexpected though?
NetRiff ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:01:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be brief, be bright, be gone.
slightlyblighty ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:17:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
THOT
akinso ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:07:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt violate your own privacy!!!
PM_ME_YOUR_CHESTHAMS ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:40:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to my girlfriend...
TENTAtheSane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:25:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, give me her number, I'll tell her
Tommysrx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:48:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Man: where should we go to eat
Woman: ( insert 45 minute rant )
Edit : I know the women who do this are the ones downvoting this , and itโs staying up regardless.
PM_ME_YOUR_CHESTHAMS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:41:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's a trick to that. Just say to her "guess what we're having for dinner tonight?" And whatever she first guesses is what's for dinner.
Littleman88 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:22:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lawyer speak has gotten me out of more than one jam. Say only what needs to be said. Chances are your boss won't care about your reason for being late anyway. They'll either understand or they'll be a total dick about it.
thedecibelkid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:15:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Aka The Pocahontas rule. In the first ten minutes of the film a load of shit goes down, then the captain comes on deck and demands an explanation. Mel Gibson just says "Jimmy fell overboard, sir" ... Short, simple, consise and a cherry on top. Changed my life when I figured that out
DemoHD7 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:30:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
KISS - keep it simple stupid
Koolbreeze88 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:27:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes when I do this it blows some peopleโs minds and they have to stop and analyze how to respond.
giant_lebowski ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:13:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"no" is a complete sentence
Deadsuooo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:01:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tested in several real life scenarios: whoever talks first, loses. Keep your cool, kiddos.
De-Hond ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:29:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One of the biggest interviewing tricks is having silence. Most start yapping and volunteering info just to fill the silence. Stay quiet, smile.
electric_ocelots ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:56:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why use many word when few do trick
vacindika ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:40:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also with cops! Polite, coherent statements. No talking back, no argueing. They're trained to talk you into some BS justifying searching your car etc.
gigibuffoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:34:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
WiseSeagul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:23 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never pass up the opportunity to shut up
krzykris11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Other than the 'never talk to the police' advice. https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
CountSudoku ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:07:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It may not be Friday...
FlixFlix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a non-45-minute version of this?
AlphakirA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:09:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
TLDR: Don't give an explanation for anything without a lawyer. Even if you were just taking a shit it can be turned into exactly how you murdered someone whilst shitting.
I've seen this video in the past, if you have time I do recommend it, he gives some excellent examples you wouldn't normally think would incriminate you.
dafckingman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I need to do this
Mirai44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not ever . But rally good advice
TheDucksTales ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โLet silence carry the weight of the conversationโ
Cyclesadrift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This works in sales, i sell cars. People have a tendency to give too many options. State facts, agree with customer, and sell car.
evr- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"What are you going to do? Stab me?"
munguba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just like Chandler Bing.
Triesaccents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly it should be stickied
Noob_umbrella ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to live by this today. I always talk too much
OMGWhyImOld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Keep telling that to myself, and sometimes I listen and yes it works every time.
Zzess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
KISS - keep it simple stupid!
pancakelife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also brevity is the soul of wit. In case you're trying to be funny.
what_who_is_this ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs the one thing in life Iโm trying to get better at
muscleupgyal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My 2nd husband was a jerk, but he did teach me that. Excellent advice.
PhantomStranger52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fully agree. It took me more time than it should have to learn that. Now my inner voice will scream STOP TALKING.
Madouc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And hold the silence for at least 10 seconds.
realcevapipapi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never get fooled by pregnant pauses!
Mdgt_Pope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This applies to speaking with cops too
DogInMyRisotto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I make this mistake every time. I'm kind of socially awkward but can manage a few minutes conversation with a customer. When I get an annual inspection (there's usually three people who come along to check different aspects of my business), they say very little apart from "show us around." I always end up saying too much. I can't stand the silence so I fill the gap with whatever is going through my head and that is usually incriminating information.
Wolf_Noble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โI killed the president.โ
missionbeach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lawyer up.
classyinthecorners ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
you should make t-shirts this is up there with stop-drop-and-roll but I've never actually been on fire. I have however dug myself a hole with my words?
cannotfoolowls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Every boss i've ever had: You should really open up more. You come off as not very trustworthy.
whineybubbles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Never miss an opportunity to shut the fck up." Dr. Phil
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have spoken.
_SP3CT3R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But, if you do get called out on it, own the mistake and apologize!
TheKrs1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
mumbalakumbala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Story of my life :( been working on this for ages. Super hard yet super effective.
Kurotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I never start talking to begin with. Has worked for me so far.
scootscooterson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But should I smile more?
enemyoftoast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is key in insurance. People call in 'i got a speeding ticket and I want to know how it will impact my rates'..... Like shut, TF up. for current customers, I never would have asked nor but I have run your motor vehicle record. Same with claims. Answer direct questions, but don't lie and STFU.
baldhaggi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/insta_nudess
AgreeableBus5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When it comes to people you donโt trust, or who have power over you.
If youโre talking to friends and loved ones you should open your heart and let the words flow!
rf97a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just like Donald Trump?
broncotate27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Working in renovation, this is key for me...not saying to omit the truth or anything. Sometimes though, the less complicated details the better.
ihada_petlion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You've got two ears and one mouth, that's a ratio. Listen twice as much as you talk.
thisnewsight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It really is. Imagine yourself as the boss reading excuse after excuse on a daily basis? Eye rolls.
I learned this recently as well when I texted my front desk, โUnable to come in today.โ
โI hope everything is ok??โ Lol. Never volunteering info again.
sam_I_wasnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
1 rule in sales - when customer says โYesโ, shut up.
fancy-footling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best advice for lying also.
rsplatpc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:20:33 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
this video is about the police, but really applies to life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
erox70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:27 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm taking this advice! My girlfriend has always told me I โsay just a little too much.โ
I had to write a summary for a paper I was doing, and my professor gave me feedback that said โyou should summarize your summary.โ My girlfriend LOVED that and hasnโt let me live it down.
Iโm trying. I really am!!
cardellmitchell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:12 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bow wol wol how do a dog chase a cat๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
alleycat2-14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:21 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Goes tripple if the police are involved. Name, Rank and Serial Number.
alexmunse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:24 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
On the other hand, if you need info from someone, just leave a pregnant pause in the conversation. Theyโll keep talking, trying to fill the awkward silence. Flustered people will talk about ANYTHING with a little bit of goading!
HansChuzzman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:56 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Admit nothing, deny everything, make counter accusations.
Joyful_Fucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:19 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, I did not suggest that. Thatโs dishonest and devious.
KunningDrooger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:58 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then wait for lawyer.
TopHatGary ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:36:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In my job, people who complain often get earlier appointments. "We have you in for the earliest available. Is this okay?" 7/10 they say yes. The other three "Okay, I will let the right people know and if something opens up, they will call you to see if you're available." I don't even offer the other option unless they press for it.
CocoMonkeyBank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never hurts to ask ๐คทโโ๏ธ
hein_4412 ยท 8892 points ยท Posted at 00:40:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like my dad always says. The more you say, the more youโre responsible for.
FirstAccountCreated ยท 2507 points ยท Posted at 01:41:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Touche.
I_devour_your_pets ยท 662 points ยท Posted at 03:41:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
His dad talked so much that his son is now embarrassing him on reddit.
tiddervul ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:46:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
An old political rule: if youโre explaining, youโre losing.
FirstAccountCreated ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:40:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But Officer, she nodded before passing out!
Jinzot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:28 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
At no point after passing out did she protest!
gullaffe ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:21:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's always tho. He says nothing else. So this statement is his only responsibility.
This-Cartographer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:51:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
If silence equals death, your father is ten words away from Thanatos
throwawaycuzp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:13:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
happy cake day!
CastinEndac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like my dad always said, โGo take...money...from...my walletโ
-Dad (02/11, 04/12)
nikovegaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:34 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
He must seek more responsibility.
Nicaol ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 08:10:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Old guy i used to work with used to say โnever answer a question you havenโt been askedโ. Works a treat!
Anam_Cara ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:13:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But... Nobody asked.
thenoogler ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:45:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like my dad always says "if you offer people advice, tell them it's what your parents always advise, they'll give what you're saying more value"
Sumopwr ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:06:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My grandadโs been saying this for years.
Pink-Freud- ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:09:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like my dad always said: Iโm just heading out for a pack of smokes.
Skaterpunk ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:38:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If he always said it meant that he kept coming back. What a great dad
Perfectsheep13 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:45:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like my dad always said, "I'm going to get milk"
tmit6449 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:59:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tell this to the Astros PR team
HYThrowaway1980 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:16:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The less youโre responsible for, the harder it is to prove your worth.
buzyb25 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:37:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Eh as long as you consciously speak should be okay to talk a lot or a little. Otherwise would you want to be at a workplace where you constantly feel like you have to walk on eggshells, or curtailed in all speak and action?
TheArtofWall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:43:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wait, there's a great one my HS friend didn't make up, but l told me he did. Something like, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
Obsillius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:40:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of an old saying we have in my country which translates directly to: โFewest words carry the least responsibility.โ
MrBogardus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:48:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I like that... so many times people just keep rambling in situations
GordonFreeman1998 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And like my dad always says: "Put that down before you hurt yourself, what are you, five?"
Nocz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And like my dad said one time, โYou do know you arenโt a fucking redneck, right?โ
I never wore camo again
Cogs_For_Brains ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:33:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
at the same time, continously showing those around you that you shouldn't be held responsible for things usually results in people never giving you responsibilities and viewing you as a burden.
sm0gs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad always said โgive me the headline, not the articleโ
germdisco ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:38:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nice.
Also happy day of the cake!
BoobybearCandles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:45:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is your dad a lawyer by chance?
DankTaco67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa says that all the time.. that you dad? U said u would be right back
YoujizzIjizz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like my dad always says:
BeautyJester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
True
kytheon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
He never talks about you
ChrizTaylor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tell your dad, Chriz says hi!
BrewTheBig1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, my dad wonโt ever stop talking... Every piece of my history is fascinating to tell everyone ever...
ryanooooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like your dad always says. You can have your cake day and eat it too.
leglesslegolegolas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:21:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like my lawyer always says. "Shut the fuck up."
DeltaKT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like my dad always said:
..
RaidenIsCool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase that sticks into my head from my dad is โLoose lips sink ships.โ
He was a navy guy, so Iโm sure he got it from that industry, but it really applies to everything in life.
VDJ76Tugboat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:56 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That one is from the war.
NinjaWorldWar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
With great many words comes great responsibility.
crisstiena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Least said soonest mended.
Soren_Camus1905 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
...
ItsReallyDotty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Create no evidence
FenrirApalis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Meanwhile my dad talks for an hour giving the other person everything while gaining fuck all in return
QuickAnything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โWhen in doubt, leave it out.โ I recently discovered this applies to conversation as well.
ObjectiveBurn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You said too much. Now we all know you have a dad.
insignifiyesican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I tip my hat to your dad.
poprock19000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why he never said your name
Dyllbert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:22 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like Dad say: "more you say, more you responsible"
FTFY
littledottie123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:25 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โIf youโre going to do something dumb, donโt put it in writingโ -My Dad.
ButtermilkDuds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:31 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think Jeff Foxworthy has a bit that says โif your wife says you need to talk, just like with the cops. Donโt say anything until you know what it is youโre being accused of.
franksauce18y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if he wants me to talk more or less now
really-drunk-too ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like my dad always says... Never laugh when your hidinโ, never smile when youโre lyinโ, and ffs keep your big damn mouth shut.
RobAD2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'll be holding your dad responsible for those thoughts
R_glo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:20:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Your dad is a wise man. Happy cake day my friend
mathmuser ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:58:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's why he never talked about me.
iloveyousweetiepie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:06:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like an unknown person may or may not have said "The more you say, the more youโre responsible for"
infinite_minute ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:59:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's Mr. hein_4412 Sr's statement at Hein 4412 Lane? Interesting, didn't know he felt that way.
places in blackmail folder
Lootychav ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:17:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Now that is subtle. Underrated comment
jimmyfromtheuk ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Loose lips, sink ships.
megs0114 ยท 6979 points ยท Posted at 00:55:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to an interview an hour from my house for a hospital and didnโt realize that the bridge a mile and change from the hospital was down to one lane. Called the nurse manager 15 minutes before my interview and told her that I was going to be late and that was it, and when I walked in she told me she appreciated that Iโd communicated with her and I still got the job
grimwock ยท 3544 points ยท Posted at 02:48:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also don't make your self late twice in a row. If you're 15 minutes away don't say you'll be there in 10 minutes to make them feel better, say you'll be there in 20 mins to give you some breathing room to find parking or run to the bathroom.
BHAFA ยท 2358 points ยท Posted at 04:29:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always fuck myself with this one and I dont know why I constantly do it
blzy99 ยท 1577 points ยท Posted at 05:28:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably for the same reason I do, because youโre a people pleaser and by telling them initially itโll be less time than it actually will be youโre satisfying them as well as relieving the burden on yourself temporarily
brmgp1 ยท 715 points ยท Posted at 05:40:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck why did I just feel this in my soul
Propenso ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:36:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Give me my soul back you monster
blastanders ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:21:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, you
mawesome4ever ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:42 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It has already been consumed, the eternal veil now has a soul more worth of power to keep it running
SweetEmiline ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 05:51:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm terrible at estimating time so unless it's a route I've taken before I'll definitely underestimate how long it'll take.
HopelessTractor ยท 194 points ยท Posted at 08:51:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule of thumb is to double your estimate. Or you can send a text message "I'll be there in 5 minutes, if I'm not read this again". Gives you infinite time.
Johnnius_Maximus ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:11:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I learnt this quite quickly when doing my own field service pc etc repairs.
You gonna be 20 minutes? You say 40.
That way if you are 20 minutes people will more than often be appreciative.
If you say 20 minutes but it takes you 40+ minutes then they'll likely be a bit pissed.
SeaGroomer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:12:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A short-hair chihuahua bath/nail/etc can be done in like, 30 minutes if the dog behaves, or an hour and a half if they don't. I give them the longer estimate unless I already know the dog.
Johnnius_Maximus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My pomapoo is definitely more towards an hour.
He's a great boy but once I leave he is completely anxious, I'm considering one of those mobile deals for his sake.
Unfortunately his back hair will never grow back, a family member initially had him and just buzzed him all over so he has a strip of hair (like a skunk) that never grows.
SeaGroomer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pomapoo is going to be a long-hair (except for the stripe) so drying time alone will make it take much longer. An hour is a good time for a long-hair small dog.
Pretty much every dog is anxious to some degree. I bet the dog is better when you're gone than you expect, unless your groomer told you otherwise. Most dogs do a lot better once their owners leave.
Johnnius_Maximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're probably correct, I can just hear him screaming until I'm out the door but no groomer has actually said he has misbehaved.
It's possibly more anxiety on my side.
SeaGroomer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It usually is ๐ we know it's because you love your pups.
Gadgetman_1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:14:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have a simple rule... TTT...
Things Take Time.
So doubling up what you 'know' the job will take is a good start.
Shortendo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:45:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is perfect
YdocS ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 12:23:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How is this perfect? Iโd be pissed if someone said that and showed up 20 minutes later. โBut I said 5 minutes aNd ThEN AdD 5 MiNiUteS iF iM nOt ThErEโ
That really sounds perfect? Am I missing something?
Miyelsh ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 13:11:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's a joke
YdocS ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 13:24:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fooled me
dkelly54 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:28:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure much does.
YdocS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Got him
dkelly54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The joke
โโโโโโ
You
(Illustration of your daily life)
t3hnhoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:58 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
16 years later.. Dad still hasn't come back from the store.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
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HopelessTractor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you just don't like your job and/or work environment so you don't put in any effort to show up on time.
AMasonJar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:58:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well thanks for understanding why I'm chronically late to my current job before I did.
l-a-c-h-r-y-m-o-s-e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
let lateNotice = function lateNotice(receiver) {if (!arrived) {receiver.notify(โIโll be there in 5 minutesโ)}lateNotice()}badbatchofcontent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Haha
TheIrishGoat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:47:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have this problem, and then overcompensate to a ridiculous degree. Eample; I don't know the route, think it'll be about 20 minutes, I tell them an hour, and I'm there in 30 mins. Leads to waiting around a lot, but I'd rather wait, than make someone else wait.
Gadgetman_1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Scout out the route the workday before your appointment...
Cogs_For_Brains ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:35:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
gps is a lifesaver for things like this. google maps ETA + 10 min.
Faldricus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:39:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay. As a former people pleaser, I can tell you that it's possible to evolve and learn how to put your own happiness before every tom, dick, and harry you deal with.
Just be vigilant and try to think about conversations before you have them, as much as possible. I still rehearse conversations if I know they are coming - saves me a lot of potential headache, because my first instincts usually suck.
greg19735 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:56:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
also probably because you're late AF constantly
Kiwiteepee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:29:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, I work in a time sensitive setting and I always tell my techs to tell the patients 10-20 minutes longer than they think it'll take. It gives you the buffer in case something goes wrong, AND the patient is generally pleased when something is done earlier than they were expecting.
PleasureToNietzsche ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:55:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
God damn this resonated right through to the center of my bones.
My work has me meeting with 5-6 people a day in various locations and a lot of time I get delayed etc. I used to hate telling people that it would be 2-3 days out for that appointment and would try to shmooze em over saying that this date would be worst case but I can probably try to make it earlier, and then it blows up in my face when I had to push it another day back due to delays.
Now I tell em an extra day and whatever grief youโre gonna have about it will last three minutes. โHi canโt make it till x, k?โ
โReeeee I wish it would be sooner!โ
โTerribly sorry, I wish it was too but Iโve got a schedule to keep to and multiple appointments to keep for people who are in the same situation. Iโll see you xโ
Fuckin a, that alone made my quality of job-life so much better
bakkunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:31:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's called anxiety my dude. You should speak to someone about it.
bunnylove5811 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:45:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a people pleaser too and I've recently found that what really pleases people is if you are straight up with them.
reptar-on_ice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:00 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They do this at restaurants and for the lines at Disney land too. Itโs usually at least 10 min less than they say.
GonadTh3Barbarian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:52:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Had a manager tell me something that's always stuck with my when I did that regarding a customer's order. Never over promise and under deliver.
Edit: just realized someone already said that further down.
accountwithnoname1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:27:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But you're already late, by saying you'll be 10min when it's actually 15 is just going to disappoint them twice. By saying 20min and then actually being 15 you'll please them in the end. I learned this at one of my first jobs, I usually started at 14:30 but occasionally would get a phone call in the morning asking if I could come in early. I'd say I'll get there for X time and always be 10 minutes early. They loved me. It also doubles that if you are ever late you have a good reputation and they are very understanding.
Heterophylla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is, they usually don't give a fuck how long it is.
FieelChannel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly never whad a job
funnylookingbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Its a hard lesson to learn to budget your time. I do alot of travelling for work and you have to give yourself extra whilst navigating random road conditions. Especially hard in the face of pushy supervisors. As the great Scotty once said 'tell 'em 2 hours, do it in one.' Or something to that effect.
Petsweaters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This does not please people, though; it does the opposite of please people
AphexLambda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I need to copy this into my notes and never forget to not be like that ever again.
jayster22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I related to this too hard. Anyone have tips on how to stop doing stuff like this.
motoxscrub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Note to self: donโt let self want to please others.
Imaginationrunzwild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hate being a people pleaser now. It may be the center of my I hate myself so much. Please everybody and when you get absolutely shit on in life, I tell myself itโs just cause Iโm a nice guy getting fucked. And that sucks cause I legit do like to help people. I wish I was a recluse asshole sometimes
Uniqniqu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you me with more understanding of how the inner people pleaser works?
thrasha666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Under promise, over deliver bro. If something will take you a day to accomplish, tell them 2-3 so that when you beat the agreed deadline, you look awesome and people are more pleased
Sancho90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:52 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is so me am a people pleaser, any advise on setting up healthy boundaries.
rfeather ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When people tell me they will take 10 minutes and arrive 20 minutes later, that pisses me off more than telling me the truth.
I don't understand how being a people pleaser works here since you are lying and the other person will know it. It does not please anyone..
higgledypiggledy33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you were a people pleaser you'd arrive on time.
Thumbholes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Being the other person, this is way more upsetting. Now I think youโre intentionally lying or at least a little stupid.
urzayci ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol people pleaser. Whoever does this is an asshole.
thatG_evanP ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:55:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Back in my late teens through my early 20s when I was a small time drug dealer, I did this all the time (which is apparently common among drug dealers). I would tell someone I'd be there to meet them in five minutes, knowing there was no way in hell I was gonna make it. Countless times I would ask myself why the hell I did that. Why didn't I tell them it was gonna be a little longer than I thought it would be? Then the next time, I would do the same exact thing all over again. I just couldn't stop doing it.
johannthegoatman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:08:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yup that's 90% of drug dealers
speeding_bullitt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:33:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure they teach this in dealer school
Corbismom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! Why do I do this???
brad-corp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:52:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Man - not doing that has done wonders for my business. Whenever I have a piece of work to hand over, I ALWAYS tell them it will be ready one day later than I anticipate it will be. This means I either:
Razzmatazz13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
SAME it's awful
Trumps_left_bawsack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:35:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always do this cause I terrible at estimating travel times
RosyRaichu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:37:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I'm late for work I call up and say "probably 20 minutes but don't quote me on that." I live in London and the trains are a nightmare here, so they understand.
Chexmax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably for the same reason you're late to begin with: there was some study that successfully theorized chronically late people had difficulty estimating time. Unless you know you're straight lying to them, in the split second you're on the phone you probably think: if I hurry, I can be there in 5 minutes!
thegurujim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Classic under promise over deliver. Keep it in mind.
Jasong222 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Because you're promising on hope and desire, not on reality. Being accurate and honest is better than 'making them feel better' or pretending 'it isn't so bad'.
denardosbae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You think of time optimistically, like if there's a range of 20-30 minites for arrival, you are optimistic to be there in 20 min. However from working at a pizza joint I learned: Always give the pessimistic time, if it will take 45 min for delivery tell them 50-70 min, then the person is thrilled when/if the delivery is early.
Aleventeen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
meirl
trippy_grapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah, I'm 2 minutes away."
Hasn't left the house yet ๐ถ
kesp01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:39 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never tell anyone anything unless you stand to benefit. Simple.
TigreDemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:34 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a fetish at this point
racksandracks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:33 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This fuckery
ChubbyCox2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:15:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you black by chance?
EllieD0113 ยท 454 points ยท Posted at 04:30:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt overpromise and under-deliver. Under-promise and overdeliver.
harlequinnx ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 05:22:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How else can you keep your reputation as a miracle worker?
SeaGroomer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can't give 'er any more power captain. ;)
TheVicSageQuestion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:44 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You could teach Helen Keller to read.
HoneyBadgerninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Working actual miracles comes to mind.
harlequinnx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like traveling back in time to bring whales to the future?
amillionbillion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You could over promise and sometimes deliver
Heterophylla ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:41:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The Mr. Scott strategy.
marzenmangler ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:31:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Set the bar low and then jump over it. Managing expectations 101.
random_anonymous_guy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:11:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Aye! That's the ticket, lad!
ssatyd ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:51:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Though I admire this stance (and would love to be able to live by it in the workplace) I don't think this is universally good advice.
You can do that when you are safe and settled in your position. When you still (try to) climb the ladder, underpromising makes you not get the chance to overdeliver as the task will be handwd to someone "more ambitious". If your work includes applying for public funding or contracts, underpromising is actually bad advice. Again, this will lead to not getting the funds/contract, so you will never get the chance to deliver. This is how we got crap like BER and Stuttgart 21 in Germany...
If there's no chance that the task gets taken from you, or you're in a position where you just don't have to care if that happens, great, go for it. But the again you probably don't need to promise at all, "I'll see what I can do, and it will take as long as t takes."
EllieD0113 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yes, I think it goes without saying that there are times where the sentiment doesnโt apply.
squirrelybitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:39:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I call it the Mr. Scotty Approach. โI cannot do it, Captain!โ
ZEPHYRight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:54:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or.. you know... promise and deliver?
EllieD0113 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but there are many cases where you need wiggle room. I used to work in retail and yes, I could probably do an engraving in 20 minutes. But working alone, what if I have more customers? What if something happens and I have to redo it? Iโd give myself plenty of time, then the customer would be happy if I messaged them in 40 minutes saying it was done.
DutchDouble87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:44:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learned this simple rule early on in my career. Although donโt consistently work your ass off on every project to finish early or with over expected results. Eventually working your ass off just becomes the expected and isnโt seen as an ada boy any longer.
JOOOOOOCY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is only true - if you are in a situation where you can under promise.
TrashCanBaseballPro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How do the Republicans run for office then?
EllieD0113 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm Republican and thatโs hilarious! (No sarcasm)
ragelark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I do at work. I say a job will take me two weeks to do even though it'll take me two days. I finish up then jerk around for the rest of the 2 weeks.
Binsky89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's one thing that really bothers me about my IT counterparts in India. They will promise the client that they'll move heaven and earth by close of business, for things they have no clue how to do, and never bother to ask the people who will actually do the work for an eta.
If I'm ever asked how long something will take, I always add 200% to it, minimum, or how long it will take if every possible thing that could go wrong does. I've told people that it would take 3 hours to figure out if something was even possible to do, when in reality it was simple enough to implement in 15 minutes.
But, way overestimating has saved my ass when what should have been a 15 minute update took 45 minutes, but I told everyone it would take an hour.
ofimmsl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:29:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But if you do make yourself twice, lawyer up and shut your mouth
funffunfundfunfzig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:54:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Under promise and over deliver.
Melting_Beardcicle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My wife does this constantly. I get home from work before her and always cook dinner. She calls and says she's leaving work and will be home in 30 minutes. Great I'll start dinner. Guess who's eating cold dinner again tonight?
geon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My brother once did this to me for over an hour. Had he just told me itโs going to take a while, I could have done something else, but he kept me sitting on my ass waiting.
grotevin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My customers always do this, I hate it.
They say sorry, I'll be there in five but take 20/25 minutes to arrive. I could have done something useful in that time.
theoffalo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:33:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And definitely donโt do this with your kids. If you tell them โ5 more minutesโ (until whatever) and thatโs inaccurate or a lie, they wonโt be placated in the future if you use it again because theyโll know itโs BS.
WiganLad82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:59:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
" If you're going to be late, then be late enough to make them happy you just showed up at all" Kevin Nash
random_anonymous_guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:10:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Scotty would approve.
woooter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:25:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Underpromise, overdeliver. People will be happy you got there in 15 minutes instead of 20!
Also, this gem from Picard S01E04: "A promise is a prison...do not make yourself another's jailer."
Gadgetman_1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:09:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This. Nothing worse than having to take a bathroom break during an interview to mark yourself as 'loser who can't plan and definitely shouldn't be left in charge of patients or expensive equipment anywhere'.
It's even better, though, to scout out the location the day before so that you're aware of exactly how to get there, where parking is and so on, so that you can be there in good time. If the reception tells HR that you arrived early and took the time to look over yourself and papers while waiting for the appointed time, then they know that you take this seriously. Coming in more than 5 - 10 minutes early may be a mistake, though. You may end up fidgeting or doing something else stupid, such as using a vending machine and messing it up. (Buy a cup of coffee and not notice that the machine is a model that you need to place a cup underneath, instead of one dropping down automatically, or placing your travel cup under a machine that does drop a cup down... )
And yes, the reception will know that you're there for an interview. And may be questioned by HR unless they're very busy.
Harnisfechten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:06:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
it's always worse when people BS how late they are.
one of my in-laws does this so constantly it's basically expected and a running joke. if you tell them to be somewhere at 6, you can call them at 5:55 and they'll say "I'm on my way now", which really means they haven't left yet and just remembered they had to go. then they will say "I'll be there in 20 minutes", which means they'll show up at 6:40.
scificionado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This describes my teenage nephews to a T.
TortoiseTaintTickler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:27 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is notorious for doing this exactly. Whenever he says "be there in 20" everyone knows it's going to be double that. We call it running on "Tony Time".
Harnisfechten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:28 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
yep. it works out as long as they are consistent in their lateness
TrackingMud ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:32:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This.
If the first delay didn't feel like an inconvenience the second delay sure as hell will
skwerldom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
YES
kccrumb31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wisdom
KidDisaster83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt commit to a time if you donโt need to. Just say running late and then show up without the stress of catching up to your dumb estimation.
gobstopperDelux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As we always say at work - under promise and over deliver.
De-Hond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Under promise and over deliver.
nerdwine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
THIS! I do this sometimes and kick myself as soon as I hang up. You're already late just ride it out. Don't set yourself up for failure.
Au_Struck_Geologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad I saw this here, I explained this to my boss once while we were running late.
Never be late twice.
If you say 20 minutes, maybe they go take the dump that they were holding and didn't think 10 minutes could handle. If you say 10 and it's really 20, the whole time they are with you they will be thinking "goddamn, I had enough time to go but this asshole was late"
Aresyen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt even tell them a time, your on your way and you will be in when you can...
raja777m ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Under promise and over achieve.
HallonPajen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Better to promise less and over deliver than promise more and under deliver
surfacing_husky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Damn i hate when people do that! Just give me a decent time, id rather you be early from being late than double late!
__Christopher__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Underpromise overperform
YouCanBetOnItMs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's called under-promise, over-deliver.
If you tell them you will be there in 20 min, and then arrive in 15 min, then you've arrived "early" (despite running late) ;)
Randyhokari1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:31 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To add to this, don't tell them how many minutes, tell them how many miles out you are if they must know.
Jinzot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:44 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My supervisor employs this and it saves my ass lol. Just today he asked me when I would get a job done, and I said tomorrow. He said, โokay, Iโll tell the boss Iโll get the results next Tuesday, and itโll probably take a while for quality control review, so weโll be able to wrap things up around early March.โ
Realistically, I will finish the job tomorrow afternoon, but now itโll look impressive for all of us.
desertedstreets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:07 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. If you are going to be late, might as well take your time.
thyghlander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:54 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just ask Scotty
KunningDrooger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:11 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Under promise, over deliver.
KNYCE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:15 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm really big on realistic time estimates. Great advice.
ButtermilkDuds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:28 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work for a mobile dialysis service. People always wanted to know when I was going to show up but the work is erratic and itโs impossible to say. If I had said Iโd be there at 2, but then my day went sideways and I didnโt make it until 4 theyโd be furious.
So what I did was when I knew I was headed their way I said Iโd be there in 2 hours. Then when I got there in 45 minutes they were thrilled. Nothing changed. I just set up their expectation and then beat it. Even though I still showed up at 4, I set it up to make it look like I was ahead of schedule.
hanr86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh I was supposed to meet a contractor at 8:30am. I call him at 8:45am and he tells me he'll be there in 10 minutes but finally shows up at 9:30. I hate when people don't value others' time. No apologies either, just excuses.
throwawayacct600 ยท 1279 points ยท Posted at 01:41:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nice work. Letting someone know you're running late is a common courtesy that isn't very common anymore. I hope you're that courteous if you're running late in any situation, even if there isn't much at risk for you.
WhitestKidYouKnow ยท 393 points ยท Posted at 03:29:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ive always told my technicians "if you're late 5-10 minutes. Dont call me when you're driving. I start to get nervous at 15 minutes after, and ill likely call you.. If you're more late than that I expect a call. If it's shitty weather, just get here safe and call ahead if you can."
On that same note, if you're not planning on coming in (and decide this the day/night before) because you're last day of work is 1-14 days away, just tell me ahead of time so i can at least start calling other people for coverage. I dont even care what your excuse is, a simple "i wont be there" the night before is fine I can call others. Just dont leave me high and dry.
LimpNoodle69 ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 06:06:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're a decent boss. My last two jobs demanded I call to let them know I'm going to be less than 5 minutes late. It was infuriating they wanted me to call knowing I'm most likely on the road, wasting their time and making my drive less safe, just so they'd know I'd be the slightest bit tardy. I lived 5 minutes from both those jobs and most days I got there slightly early, while some days I had to wait 3 cycles at a particular light and would be negligibly late.
Darfoot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:31:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They dont want to know that you're going to be late. They want to make it difficult/painful for you to be late so that you're encouraged to be on time to avoid the pain...
Also, any long form with many questions on (doctor office) is a deterrent to make you go away... you know this because anyone you submit the form to ALWAYS asks you the same questions verbally and have not read the form. Only people willing to fill out the tedious form really want to be there.
oopswizard ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:47:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That was a wild leap in medical care logic. ๐ค
keithrc ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:33:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely applies in other settings, but I'd hesitate to apply it to medical care. Not an unreasonable leap, though.
badbatchofcontent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Imma start telling them โread the form.โ
hooperDave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Son, thatโs what we call CYA paperwork, not so much a triage filter.
product_of_boredom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:49:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My job doesn't require you to call if you're running late, but I've discovered that sometimes if you do call in they'll count it as requested time off. This means you can be a few minutes late without a penalty on your record.
LimpNoodle69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:12:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say lucky you, but if that counts as a PTO day, I'd be slighted. I already considered it a power-trip to council me about being less than 5 minutes late, that'd only further extrapolate the issue. If they were willing to put a penalty on my record for these actions, same thing, I'd take it as a slight.
I always called(not necessary in the instance of these last two jobs) if I thought I'd be more than 10 minutes late. Anything else is negligible and only furthered my hate towards my managers if they scrutinized me for occasionally arriving within under 10 minutes late of my shift.
Not that it matters, sometimes things can't be helped when someone is driving to their job, but both of these were under minimum wage jobs. Delivery driver and bus-boy. The importance they put on me, acting like if I wasn't there on 100% on time it would dissolve the company, even if I was literally 1 minute late. This only furthered my disdain for the company. I'd quit on the spot if they decided to take further disciplinary actions about that.
Funny thing is, I considered both those jobs my potential "future" and took them seriously. The lack of a human element within my managers made me lose faith in the workplace. I feel if they treated me as a human, things would of been better between the both of us.
product_of_boredom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:33:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, bosses are power tripping assholes. Its crazy to me that they can look at an employee of thrirs and just not see a person.
PanchoxVilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:49:59 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Living 5 minutes away you should be at work 10 min early minimum, no excuses
LimpNoodle69 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:00:48 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had my arrival down to a science and was typically 5 minutes early, but like i said occasionally I had to wait 3 cycles at one light which would mess up my rhythm. I said it later, these were both low tier jobs where me being slightly tardy wasn't the end of the world. I never got praise or pay for being 5 minutes early 90% of the time, but would get scrutiny for being less than 5 minutes late on occasion.
PanchoxVilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:46 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're still not getting it, dude. Being 5 minutes early is BARELY scraping by acceptable.
In the grand scheme of things, of course being tardy isn't the end of the world, and your supervisors sound like anal micro-managing assholes...It's not about your devotion to the position or the company or anything like that...idk how to articulate this but it is important.
Living 5 minutes away you should plan to be in the immediate area at least 10 before your shift.
Then again I'm used to fine-dining restaurants in Miami, Florida (no fault state) that were extremely strict on punctuality. In that world "10 min early is on time. On time is late. Late is fired"
LimpNoodle69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:29 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Idk I think it is about devotion, personally. If a company treats me well I have no problem trying to get there earlier like that. I always go the extra mile on other things but that generally decreases as my devotion does. Also if it were a higher-stakes job or at least one where I felt cared for, I may be more willing to get there 10 minutes early.
I think we're just kinda from two different worlds job-wise. I've luckily never had to deal with that level of punctuality.
Kiwiteepee ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:27:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. And to expand on the first part, this applies to people that don't make it a habit of being late, right? Like, if you're late 5 minutes every day, we have a problem... but if you're on time the vast majority of times, it's perfectly acceptable and like you said DON'T call me while driving (and likely speeding) here. If someone were to die, just because they were afraid of being late, I couldnt ever live with that.
WhitestKidYouKnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fine if someone is habitually 5 minutes late. Im salaried so i show up on time (usually early), but my techs are hourly. If they want to come in 5 minutes late, it's their paycheck that suffers. The one person i can think of that comes in 5 minutes late every shift is also amazing at her job. She also opens with me, so the pharmacy isn't too crazy in the first 5-10 minutes (usually...)
bradmc136 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:35:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My 17 year old cousin is now my apprentice he put an address into his maps wrong and at 7am (start time) he was an hour away and he only knew because I called asking where he was. He was certain he was at the right address, rather than doing the classic old school dick boss move telling him to hurry up and get here right away, I told him to take his time donโt speed just get here how ever long it takes. Work is important but life is more important
badbatchofcontent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Work is usually life for most bosses. Props to you
weggaan_weggaat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:17:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One time a coworker called off then still showed up to work because he knew there was no one to cover him. He was right, we weren't mad at all.
LoveTheBombDiggy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:05:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you leave me high, you better get me wet. If you leave me dry, you better get me high.
1violentdrunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:59:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Iโve never been late to anything in my entire adult life. I donโt understand how people can show up late habitually. Being late is almost always preventable...
Mostly talking about people who are late more than a couple times a year, I understand things like flat tires and engine trouble do happen from time to time.
azsonnenblume ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:21:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have ADHD and one of my comorbid disorders with that is dyscalculia. I literally do not understand time and canโt conceptualize how long a task should take, how much time has passed, or how to estimate timelines. I also have a lot of anxiety around time based tasks and somehow feel disproportionately stressed by deadlines AND unable to start tasks because I feel like i have sooo much time to finish them so I can definitely do something else right now.
I used to be late all the time to everything until I started going to therapy for executive functioning skills and learned ways to cope with it. Iโm still sometimes late but itโs less frequent and the amount of time Iโm late by in those rare instances is a lot less.
UnbalancedDreaming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's good you got help and are working on it. When you are an adult and working a job, this is by no means an excuse. It just doesn't cut it. You will, and should be fired if you are habitually late to a job as an adult. It is as simple as taking a test drive to work to see how long it takes days before you have to work. If you want to be safe, just set an alarm 30 minutes before you have to leave everyday and leave right then if you want to be safe. If there is a crazy wreck or something on the highway, normally you can call and explain it. If you always come in late and say it is because of ADHD and you can't keep track of time, your ass is going to be gone. People in.the professional world will not put up with this kind of conduct and have every right to let you go. I'm not sure what age you are but you definitely need to have this worked out before you get a real job. Don't expect to use this as an excuse. Sounds like you are working on fixing and you should be fine. Phone alarms are your friend. Use multiple ones.
azsonnenblume ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am 30 years old and married with 2 children, Iโm not sure why you seem to be assuming Iโm a teenager or have never had a job.
WaffleLightHouse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:45:56 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
cringe
KelSelui ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:53:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Another respondent with ADHD, here, but comorbid with ASD and OCD. I try to utilize my time efficiently. Issue is, I also experience a compulsive need to finish tasks. When this task presents itself as a rabbit hole (studying, reading, or even browsing reddit), satisfying that itch becomes a tangential approach. I will often set myself in motion within five minutes of the necessary timeframe, which lands me at my destination within five minutes of the scheduled mark. Sometimes five minutes before, sometimes five minutes late, but typically in between the two.
Although I am aware that planning to arrive early is the safest method by which to ensure punctuality, there is some part of me with which this wasted time is hard to reconcile. If I average ten minutes of early arrival time each day, I lose 60 hours every year. In 30 years, I will have lost 76 days of my life to this commitment.
This is somewhat irrational, since all time is spent, and none of it intrinsically wasted. But these are the calculations my mind makes whilst squandering the three minutes by which I end up late to work.
azsonnenblume ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:59:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm comorbid with ASD too.
Yesss to the โwasted timeโ. Itโs especially hard for me to plan things at the start of my day because I will prioritize sleep over pretty much anything else and if I donโt time a commitment to be there right on time thatโs sleep Iโm missing! Iโm scared to overestimate how long it will take me to get ready + get there cuz if Iโm sitting there for a half hour Iโm just mad thinking I could have slept 20 minutes longer.
I HATE making plans before 10am.
WhitestKidYouKnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the times where my techs are late it's either because they were traveling from a college class to work, or they have kids and the babysitter was late or dropping them off at daycare took longer than anticipated.
But that's a "life" thing that happens, so I don't penalize people for that.
badbatchofcontent ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:27:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Letโs talk about public transportation baby, letโs talk about the difference between you and me.
One of us will be habitually 5 minutes late because she canโt afford to save for a car while she works two minimum wage jobs and keeps losing them because of habitually being 5 minutes late but always great at her job.
The other one of us likely has a car and has no excuses other than โtraffic. My alarm.โ
porkchop2022 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:21 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I tell every single one of my employees at orientation the same thing: if youโre going to be late, Iโd rather you call and tell me youโre going to be an hour late then just show up 15 minutes late without a call. Iโd rather know your safe and just running late rather than think that something horrible has happened.
megs0114 ยท 211 points ยท Posted at 01:42:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I personally always give whoever it is thatโs expecting me a heads up if Iโm running late, but my parents taught me that young
RedditIsNeat0 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:37:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do that too. Not something my parents taught me, but it's pretty easy nowadays that we all have cell phones. I'll send a text when I'm running late and a text before I start the car.
Osovaraxsis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:52:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My rule of thumb as an employer was I want to know youโre going to be late AS SOON AS YOU KNOW, which is virtually always before your actually late. If you are an hour away and itโs ten minutes past already, you knew a LONG time ago you were not going to make it. The exception being oversleeps. It sucks, it happens, just tell me whatโs happening!
alex84903 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:48:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I on the other hand am just a shit person. No body askes why im late to the bar any more. They just know i didnt want to be on time. In my defence im on time for other things. Its just that i really struggle with the early part of parties where your not with the people you like most because theyr yet to arrive so you have to make small talk with almost strangers. I chose to skip it and be an hour late
vnangia ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:20:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on the situation. I was going to be five minutes late to a doctorโs appointment - had already been on the road for 35 min at this point, was 10 min away and crawling because of a crash. They tried to reschedule me. I had to be rude AF which made me feel terrible but I got there and surprise, the doctor was two appointments (30 min) late. I never bother with doctorโs offices any longer unless itโs likely Iโm the first patient of the day or itโs going to be 30-40 minutes, in which case Iโd prefer to reschedule anyway.
Quadruplem ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:30:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I still recommend trying to call. Sometimes we swap out patients when one is early and we know someone is late. Ps trust me doctors never like running behind but sometimes things happen.
Insectshelf3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:04:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
i always let people know if i think iโm going to be late and then feel super awkward when i show up on time because i overestimated
so itโs a risk/reward thing haha
scottycameron815 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:16:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always consider anything less than 10 minutes early to be late...my wife on the other hand
CruncheroosREX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:45:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also tell them the exact time you'll arrive, or 5 minutes later than you think.
Sxcred ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:08:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
If people could just let you know that they were going to be late it usually wouldn't be a problem. Punctuality is obviously important but tardiness happens, you can't always control it. Being courteous and proactive to let whose expecting you know the problem is all they need.
jobuggles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:47:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People do this to me all the time. I hate sitting and waiting for someone who is running late and they dont call or text, cause then I am just sitting around wondering if they forgot or if I got stood up. At some point I'll grow balls and just leave. "Oh? You are wondering where I am? I'm gone because I was at our meetup point at the time we decided on and waited ten minutes and you weren't there and did not message me to tell me you were late."
Automatic-Pie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:00:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also of the feeling that you should plan on being on time by arriving a little early. Things happen. There is traffic. If you haven't been there before, you may get a little lost (although this is less likely now with GPS on our phones... but I've been given the wrong address before when someone told me it was N. Main st instead of S. Main St. type of thing.)
You have 1 chance to make a first impression. For something like an interview - arrive early. Sit in the parking lot. Walk in on time.
idrive2fast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I like my doctor, but his office is always running behind on appointments no matter what time of day you're seen. So about an hour before my appointment I'll call and ask the nurse how far behind they are, then tell her I am 100% coming to my appointment but won't be there till slightly before the number she just gave me (ie. if 30 min behind, I'm gonna be 20 min late).
Powered_by_caffeine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:36:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For sure. I had trouble Monday at work for exactly that. Got a bit late, did not warn anyone. A meeting had to be rescheduled and heard from my boss a lot. For me a 5 min delay was no issue. But she just told me. How do I know it's 5 min if you're not here. If you see you're going to be late, warn us. Your presence was important to the meeting, if we don't know you're going to show up we had to change the meeting.
Yesterday we had the meeting and I was there way before starting time!
_Credible_Hulk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry Iโm late on replying, but I agree with you.
madlyalive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even if I am going to be a few minutes late, I always let the organizer or everyone on the meeting know. I appreciate the same from participants, especially those who NEED to be in the meeting. It doesnโt matter why...you could be takin a shit, finishing up another call, or just need a couple of extra minutes by yourself...common. fucking. courtesy.
Nicaol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:13:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I phone in to my work if Iโm goin to be anything over five minutes late. My team leader is like a friend to me and doesnโt but I still do it out of courtesy anyway.
lithium142 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโd call about it at work, but I get there before my boss lol
new2bay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Back before cell phones were a thing, it might not have been possible.
dibblah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even now, at least in the UK, there can be hefty penalties for using your phone while driving, even in standstill traffic. I'll pull over if I can, but if you're stuck on the motorway there's nothing you can do.
_Kramerica_ ยท 186 points ยท Posted at 01:45:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Communication is a skill that FAR too many people lack.
throwaway_adgiyrwc14 ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 04:19:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Some of it is I think just bad parenting. I know for myself, that the minute I had to tell my parents something (Iโm going to be late), I was going to get punished somehow. So now if I feel like Iโm going to get on somebodyโs bad side, the urge to keep quiet and try and wing it is huge.
notyoursocialworker ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:22:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A variant on "oh look who decides to join us!". Encourage the behaviour you want to see, but it's so easy to berate someone when they do right.
throwaway_adgiyrwc14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:32:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. I always try to do my best to be understanding towards others. Iโm not perfect but I do what I can =P
ComeOutDaBushesOnEm ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 12:22:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you're irresponsible and would rather make excuses than be held accountable. To top it off you're blaming your parents?
throwaway_adgiyrwc14 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:53:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I do. Because how you were raised is one of the biggest influences in behavior. I have to work hard to undo the damage from my childhood and Iโm not always successful.
For the record though, I realize that my actions are no one elseโs direct fault but mine. Iโm actually very good at being on time, but I make mistakes and I fall into behavioral patterns that I developed to get by, even if they arenโt healthy.
ComeOutDaBushesOnEm ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 14:09:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That should've been your original response. Taking some ownership goes a long way.
throwaway_adgiyrwc14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:11:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was offering a reason why some people may lack what seems to be a common sense trait. They can exist while still taking ownership.
jnd-cz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:59:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bad communication is the source of vast majority of world's conflicts. Which clashes with OP's advice. Sometimes it's ok to be brief but more often you could avoid trouble by explaining yourself better.
suchedits_manywow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:13 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learned in a corporate training class decades ago: โMisunderstandings are at the heart of many or most disagreements .โ There can be great value in clear and direct though - more words donโt always mean more clarity.
mtman56 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:07:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
School barely teaches it as a life skill. Let alone parenting.
Phazon2000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They spend years in highschool and university rocking up late, not showing up, changing plans etc and donโt tell anyone and it comes biting them in the arse when it comes to employment.
Lack of communication in the workplace is a career killer.
Semajextah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I blame social media, its easier for some people to type/text than it is to use their words/voice.
ArthurMorgan_dies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:27 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Especially on reddit!
SFOtoORD ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 01:44:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This. Notification can often make the difference. Things come up, but when people know what to expect they can accommodate.
SpacemanD13 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:26:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I did this same thing from a cab in NYC that was being blocked in traffic by a protest. Got to the interview 20 minutes late and was told by the interviewer that it was clear I didn't want the job enough and he was annoyed I didn't take the process seriously.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:52:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
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SpacemanD13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
very true... and gave me the freedom of having a little fun in that interview.
mydoingthisright ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:30:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I bought a snickers bar at 7-11 this morning and tried paying with a $20 bill. The cashier asked me if I had anything smaller. I told him no. He was able to make change and I still got my snickers bar.
tuckertucker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:34:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine called in sick to an interview and still got the job lol
megs0114 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I mean thatโs fair, I wouldnโt wanna interview someone that potentially get me sick
pharlapdagoat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:52:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This one makes no sense. In your example you have a legitimate and understandable reason you will be late. In OP's example, they were unprofessional and slept through an scheduled appointment.
I'm glad it worked out for you, but if i was the nurse manager and got that call, i would have been more forgiving on the person who explained they were late because of unexpected traffic conditions, than one who just offered no reason.
In OP's example the less information the better, because THEY fucked up
ben_abuyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Was looking for this comment. Why the fuck be opaque and evasive about a really good excuse? Iโm glad it didnโt affect their job offer but they had nothing to gain here by not explaining themselves.
QuickAnything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Right? Iโve done some hiring and that excuse would not have been sufficient and I would have asked why. Context matters and just โIโm going to be lateโ without a valid reason makes you look suspicious and unprofessional.
humhallelujah1993 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like the I-74 bridge going into Peoria ๐
megs0114 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Jefferson Barracks Bridge going into south county STL. My uncle has some words about that bridge though ๐
humhallelujah1993 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
YIKES even worse! I lived in stl for a long time. Good luck with your new job! โบ๏ธ
megs0114 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! Funny story though, I actually donโt work at that hospital anymore, I moved to one closer to home when I heard they were shutting down a decent stretch of 255 for like a year
SurvivorProbstdMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just saw your post about nursing school. WAY TO GO!!!! โค๏ธ go get that BSN, MSN, OMG, RN! ๐
megs0114 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! Iโm super excited about it!โค๏ธ
bobby1625 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had to travel via bus from my campus to downtown and told the nurse I was going to be late. This was when I was new to the whole bus system in the city.
Instead of accommodating, I got charged for 60$. Either show up right NOW or fine ...
Ckigar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And the governor was Christie
ChiefPyroManiac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hire around 50-70 seasonal employees every 6 months or so, and the majority are teenagers. Of those who are late, the ones who call or even text ahead saying traffic was bad/anything else show me that they're going to be responsible employees. The ones who just stroll in casually 3 or 4 minutes late are showing me they're gonna take some work if I hire them.
PM-for-bad-sexting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, using public transport this occured to me a couple of times too, and while I am late by only 5-10 mins, it shows that you are dedicated to leaving a good impression. It worked out well for me most of the times.
Herry_Up ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I called my physical therapists office the other day and told them not to cancel or reschedule cuz my dumbass fell asleep (I only slept 1 hour before 6 hours of classes!) after school and I didnโt know what time it was so Iโll be there but 10 minutes late! I said this all in one breath and she was just like...who are you?
Boy, I wanted to laugh but she said okay and sheโll see me in a little bit. Lol I donโt think they wouldโve rescheduled me but Iโm never late to anything on purpose
lomo-saltado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Something similar happened to me recently. I was set to arrive thirty minutes early to the site of my interview and left on time, but there was a bad accident on the freeway that made my ETA jump up immensely. I called the person interviewing me giving them a heads up that there was a bad accident, there's a chance u might be late, and I was sorry. They said no worries. I nailed the interview and now I have the job.
And_Justice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like QMC if recently..?
MOLLY_WATER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One time I smoked meth underneath a freeway near my house
Bullied_at_Bingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations on becoming a hospital, happy for you mate.
omenbeliever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cute story
Rawrplus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The "I'd" changes the entire meaning of the sentence.
appreciated that I communicated with her - what you meant
appreciated I'd (would have) communicated with her - in a negative connotation - She would appreciate if you would have done this thing
Had to re read it twice to understand what you meant
azsonnenblume ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโd is โI hadโ. Iโdโve would be the contraction for โI would haveโ.
They said โappreciated I had communicated with herโ which is entirely correct.
DontBeMadJustThink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I called ahead to an interview to say I was running late. They said that was ok but I could tell they werenโt happy. When I got there they didnโt ask directly for a reason, but it was alluded to. My response was - โIโm sorry I was late. I have good qualities, and some things I can work on. For example, I always get my work done on time and donโt let people down. And sometimes I underestimate how long it will take to drive in peak hour traffic.โ
Excuses donโt always have to be groveling messes.
m945050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When I had a big interview, I would always go do a dry run the day before. If I was driving I would check the area for parking, public transit I would check the times and ride it and see how long it took to walk to the site and if it didn't require I'd where the office was. Then on interview day I would arrive at least 30 minutes early.
Cali_Ali ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably got the job because she knows that your going to at least call if something comes up rather than leave em hanging
wilsonism ยท 27261 points ยท Posted at 23:52:31 on February 19, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never say more than you have to. Don't lie, but don't offer up extra details.
vanslaughter ยท 4334 points ยท Posted at 01:18:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is my weakness. I feel I need to explain everything from the beginning of time.
wilsonism ยท 1748 points ยท Posted at 01:22:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And the more you do it, the more people think you're full of shit
Edward_Nygma ยท 887 points ยท Posted at 01:54:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly hate people for this.
yeti5000 ยท 676 points ยท Posted at 04:05:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I feel it's respectful if I offer a genuine explanation rather than a shrug a "sorry, I'll work on it"
However I've been told that's not professional.
ASDFzxcvTaken ยท 575 points ยท Posted at 04:35:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think of it like a fart. It happens, say excuse me and move on. If you go on talking about having eaten beans and broccoli, you're drawing more attention to it, wasting time, and it sounds like youre making excuses for and its not doing anyone any favors.
Just close your holes and dont let it happen again.
EvilZEAD ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 04:43:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, I farted.
ramobara ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 05:07:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Close your hole smh.
DamnDurtyApe ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:03:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had so much beans and broccoli last night
Pm-ur-butt ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:54:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then, Joan from purchasing bought 2 ham and cheese sandwiches from the cafeteria and all they had left was cabbage.
mvanvrancken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And then there was the onion ring delivery
Ug_Lee ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:54:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, we could taste it.
groutrop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think the nasty fart I just farted happened because the beans and broccoli didn't digest properly cuz it wasnt actually organic? I mean I thought it was organic with the label but who the hell knows right? Wait let me Google that company and see if it is....and so on and so forth...
God Im so good at this.
New_user_Sign_up ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Last night? Sir, youโre still eating them right now. Could you at least stop?
KingSqueeksII ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse me
OffbeatDrizzle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:32:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did you eat beans and broccoli perchance?
PMAKCMO ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:58:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt be. Iโd much rather you fart than see you explode.
startagarageband ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:24:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That was beautiful
skiiiwalker_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:48:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
better out than in I always say
Jerryofberry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:40:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or just fart and donโt say anything. No extra information than is needed some people donโt know it was u who farted
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:18:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A true poet
goosegirl86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:35:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Two life lessons learned today. Thanks
rkamm31 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:15:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Close your holes ๐
Sirspiderhands ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:04:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually brilliant.... As.... Odd as it is. Lmao.
Botosaurus_Rex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:08:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just fart, chuckle, and pretend it didnโt happen.
besttopguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:42:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is gonna be what I take away from this entire post
meraki101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:10:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's a really good way to look at it!
DonaldsMushroom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
what should I do if I intend to keep farting?
Figmar_J8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite comment. Should be higher
desertedstreets ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:00 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Shut your hole, for chrissakes
ggjsksk________gdjs ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 05:17:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's the golden rule of social anxiety: no one cares as much as you think they do
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:06:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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MikeInDnvr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:38:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What about it?
Gotta work harder to remove those thoughts, especially since you know they arenโt true and itโs just convenient to dismiss it all
Convenience doesnโt make it right
ree-or-reent_1029 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Theyโre not true?
MikeInDnvr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:37:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, itโs not even social anxiety. Itโs just people trying to play down what happened.
Accept responsibility, apologize, say it wonโt happen again, and keep your word. Thatโs it.
Thereโs no anxiety aspect to it. Plenty of people without clinical anxiety do the exact same thing...because anxiety has nothing to do with it
Dangerous_Protection ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think OP was bringing up anxiety because for people that have it, they can feel anxiety around being disrespectful and believe that (over)explaining the truth is a respectful way to handle the situation, but because no one cares that much it comes across poorly to most.
Sure, many people with and without anxiety can also try to downplay things, which no one appreciates.
PersistENT317 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How do I remind myself of this sentence every 2 minutes while around people? Anyone got some sticky notes I can put in my brain?
kingersoll90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:02 on February 27, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I felt this.
ColourfulFunctor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:13:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt think itโs about being professional. Offering an explanation (in most cases the word โexcuseโ is more accurate) can make it seem like youโre not willing to admit that you made a mistake. Just saying โsorry, Iโll do better next timeโ shows maturity.
KingGorilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Keep it concise, sincere and own up to it.
woppa1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:20:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Because most don't give a shit about your reason. People only need to know what they need to know to carry on the rest of their day.
pm_ur_duck_pics ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:42:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In a professional setting, no one wants to hear excuses. If they ask for a reason, then give it, otherwise itโs kind of a waste of time.
Antitheistic10 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:34:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Regardless of your intentions in explaining it, it comes off as an excuse, and makes it look like youโre trying to deflect blame. Itโs always better to just accept it and affirm that it will be done correct in the future
harlequinnx ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:49:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I never can figure out the difference between an excuse, an explanation, and a barrier/limitation. It seems like if the person likes you, it's an explanation. If they don't, it's an excuse.
Antitheistic10 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:53:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly true in some situations. But in general your supervisors donโt want to hear explanations, they just want to know that it will be done correctly in the future.
harlequinnx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I was thinking of times where it can't be done correctly really ever. Like if your boss wants you to drive a work vehicle at night but you can't safely because you have poor night vision die to an eye problem. Or they want to call you in on a half hour's notice but you've just taken a sleeping pill and laid down for the night. I guess it's a mismatch in expectations.
Antitheistic10 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:01:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I would say if youโre giving a reason before hand, thatโs certInly a different situation than giving a reason after the fact.
MikeInDnvr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Those are both things you should have discussed beforehand, the former before you even accepted the job.
KlausVonChiliPowder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:24:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My boss said I'm good at doing this with customers. I usually just own up to anything that's my fault first thing, even if it's minor. "Not reaching out sooner" is a good one if you've done nothing wrong. Then keep the explanation very brief and matter of fact. It doesn't come off like an excuse this way if you're being genuine. I spend most of the conversation telling them our options or my plan of action.
Think about what the other person wants to hear. Usually it's not even "sorry I'm messed up" but how it's being corrected.
yeti5000 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:26:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
OMG this. Lol
elsjpq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
See this is what I don't get.
People treat explanations and context as excuses when they're clearly not used to avoid responsibility. Telling you what caused an accident obviously isn't the same as claiming it wasn't my fault, but it's like they're totally blind to the difference.
And context is always important in any situation, and giving someone the whole picture is a gesture of trust and respect. I only withhold information when I'm trying to get away with it.
But it's like people just want someone to point a finger at, and don't even care about fixing the problem, which requires understanding the underlying causes.
MikeInDnvr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:42:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The context really isnโt important in most situations. I donโt need to know it, and I donโt care. I care that there was an issue, that you realize the issue, and that youโll take steps to avoid it in the future. Thatโs it. Thatโs all I care about, and all my boss cares about, and so on.
It seems like it would matter but it doesnโt. The sooner you accept that, the easier work will be.
And no, we donโt want to just point a finger. We want you to accept responsibility, address the issue, and move on.
Martelliphone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Right but you're doing exactly what he's talking about, as you said "we don't want to just point a finger. We want you to accept responsibility" ignoring context. Implying you don't care what actually happened you just want someone to take blame and make you feel better by saying it won't happen again. But if I was late bc a tractor trailer tipped over on the highway, then I'm doing neither of those things and it will likely be treated as an excuse by my boss.
MikeInDnvr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You've missed the point again, unfortunately.
We don't want to point the finger. There's no value in that. What we want is for you to acknowledge your role in the issue and take the necessary steps to ensure it won't happen again. Period. The end. That's it.
You could have left earlier. You could have taken a detour. You could have called and said you'll be late. If this isn't the first time this has happened, there's a pattern that shows a fault on your part.
You can try to pretend the world is as simple as you're trying to state but it isn't, and you won't be considered professional until you stop.
Martelliphone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I fully get your point, but what you're missing from mine is that even in situations where there is no improvement to be made or blame to be taken, you expect it.
The tipped semi was a real life example from my last job, I hit traffic miles ahead of the next exit and was guaranteed to be late. I called and let my boss know and he said "ok let me know when you get here" and completely understood that I'm not psychic (implying I should leave an extra hour early everyday when I live an hour away is in no way a reasonable solution to avoiding such rare occurrences) and shit happens. However my manager (two separate departments with shared use of me) was very upset still and asked how this could've been avoided on my end.
Both sides need to be reasonable, I leave early as it is to avoid being late, this makes me early on a regular day. Me being late one time bc of something very obviously out of my control is nothing to expect an explanation for.
Sorry for the wall of text, I just can't help but explain things too much.
elsjpq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Just because you forced someone to "accept responsibility" doesn't mean it's possible for them to fix it. That's the whole point.
There exist situations where the problem lies not with the person but with a broken system or external forces, and you will never get a satisfactory solution if you can't accept that. You do need to understand why a problem happened before you can fix it. If you don't care, then it doesn't get fixed.
I get that we all want easy fixes and "just do it" should be enough, but it isn't. The world isn't always as simple as you'd like it to be.
MikeInDnvr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If they accept responsibility, they can fix it. If you can't, don't accept responsibility because you aren't responsible.
It is extremely common, almost guaranteed, that you could have been more involved, communicated better, etc., and the situation could have been avoided. That's the responsibility. That's the mistake.
We don't want that. We want the right solution, and we want people to stop trying to deflect. Accept blame, accept your role in the issue, and fix it.
The world isn't as simple as you'd like it to be. It's quite complex. Trying to boil it down to "other factors were to blame" is overgeneralistic and simplificatory to the point of detracting from the conversation at hand.
elsjpq ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:23:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone everywhere can always do better. That's not a mistake, that's a meaningless observation of the obvious. Expecting 100% all the time isn't reasonable. And even at their best, people make mistakes.
It doesn't mean the solution is to just "try harder". That's almost never the right solution. There is always a reason some mistake happened, a bad decision was made, a failure occurred, and it is almost never purely single persons fault. Ignoring that is just putting a band-aid on the the symptoms, not fixing the issue.
hiiiiiiiiiiyaaaaaaaa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:04:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're assuming people care more than they do. My friend is an over-explainer/over-sharer at work. She often gets the brunt of the blame when things go with because of it. She knows it would help her to be less talkative, but she won't change. And her career suffers.
gardnsound ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:42:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Over-Explaining takes longer than a simple explanation; which is more respectful of the other party's time.
Bunnythumper8675309 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:54:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A perfectly good reasonable explanation from your perspective seems like the same bullshit excuse they have heard a thousand times before from their perspective. Plus, who cares why really? Shit happens. Keep moving forward.
frangelean ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:51:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
haha this is exactly the kind of approach employees use to protect their career. It ends up in a hateful divisive shift backstabbing shithouse workplace where everyone is looking to sideeye and kill the other employee. it's great!! It's the standard work environment for any good profession. There's a Harvard study which attributes this exact attitude to the disaster that is the Wuhan Flu virus. Humanity needs to go extinct asap.
yeti5000 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:54:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I've learned real fast that "professionalism" means whatever the supervisor goddamn wants it to mean, and no matter what, I'm doing it wrong lol.
Niallism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I hate that word. I do corporate training and I say that if you have a good reason, you should be able to articulate it. If the only reason you can give is โitโs professional/unprofessionalโ - then you donโt have a good reason.
bobstay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:13:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Got a link?
MikeInDnvr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Show us how we should go extinct and weโll follow your lead
Artist850 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same.
PhoneSteveGaveToTony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:53 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it feels backwards to me too, but when you think about it it makes sense because:
1) The truth usually doesn't require much in the way of a qualifying statement, it's just true. Adding more details often makes it seem like you're trying too hard to sell it.
2) It's like when a kid falls, but you just smile and act like it's not a big deal so they don't freak out like they hurt themselves. Often people are willing to move on from something quickly if you don't give them a chance to dwell on it too much.
Niku-Man ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:33:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For what?
MAGAMAN525 ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 03:45:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People may assume you're lying because of how detailed your excuse is. Where people may just take a simple 'sorry, won't happen again' and never think twice.
DaisyDondu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:31:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Think it might be that the person needs to know you're able to admit when you're wrong.
You're not going to do it again, sweet.. Wrong acknowledged, solution created.
Oh you're wasting my time for your wrongdoing and i don't know if you're going to learn from this.. Hmm.
elsjpq ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:40:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
See this is what I don't get.
People treat explanations and context as excuses when they're clearly not used to avoid responsibility. Telling you what caused an accident obviously isn't the same as claiming it wasn't my fault, but it's like they're totally blind to the difference.
And context is always important in any situation, and giving someone the whole picture is a gesture of trust and respect. I only withhold information when I'm trying to get away with it.
But it's like people just want someone to point a finger at, and don't even care about fixing the problem, which requires understanding the underlying causes.
hippi_ippi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:58:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think similar. But I've learnt that people dont give a shit. Unless you massively fucked up, the only right response is "Sorry " combined with "I'll fix it now" or "won't happen again".
This is mostly for professional settings.
AndrasKrigare ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:54:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think it really depends on the context and scale of the fuck-up. If it's something really major, yeah, lots of details are needed to prevent it in the future and understand what went wrong.
But if it's something harmless that could be chalked up to regular human error, I don't really care. The difference between knowing that they just forgot or there being a long chain of crazy exigent events doesn't really affect any decisions I'm going to make, so it isn't useful information.
I might just be salty because I have some people who give long-winded explanations to simple questions, and it adds up to really taking a big chunk out of my day.
DaisyDondu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:25:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or they just want a quick fix.
I thinks it's admirable that you respect ppl that much to want to discourse to solution, but most ppl are ready to move on and leave it. I don't agree with it, but that's the working world. Quicker and easier.
Ppl got shit to do, focus on getting the now done and bring up the sorting out later or something.
It works better in your favor if you go for the short option. Ie. Thank you, sorry am late, long morning, won't happen again. Either way, they'll ask for an explanation or you can ask if they'd like one or take them aside later for a chat.
All imo ofc
Attila_22 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:05:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you volunteer information if they ask for it, only then. And try not to make it sound like excuses either. You end up looking pathetic or like someone that can't accept responsibility. 99% of the time there was something you could've done better. Your alarm didn't work? Maybe shouldn't have been playing video games till 3am the night before etc.
PetyrBaelish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:32:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Also socially this applies. Professionally I always keep my cards close but took a few bites in the ass to learn that it's important over all. Sometimes over divulging can create an impression of yourself(or worse yet-rumors) that you had no idea was created because you decided to be honest about something vulnerable. Obviously it's good to have friends and people to help work through issues consequences be damned, but with lesser acquaintances it can hurt later.
MutantGodChicken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:22:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Generally, whenever I do this (which is almost every time [I guess unfortunately]) I say something like:
IcebergSlimFast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Any other self-declared shortcomings aside, youโre a master of punctuation (which is to say: nice parentheses and brackets!).
TasteTheRaimbow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Damn I hope I never meet you
Attila_22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A bit more lenient with friends but working in IT and girlfriend is a doctor, if people at work make excuses/shift blame/hide when they screw up then that's when things go very, very wrong.
RonaldDumbsfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This
Master-S ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:02:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You hate people for over explaining things, or hate people that think over-explainers are full of crap?
griel1o1 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:22:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't and here is why:
No stranger will ever be able to see the entire picture of your life. So your explanations, however thorough will always be incomplete.
What you really hate is the inability for human to know a stranger so completely that they will be able on the spot to tell that this stranger is an honest person.
You don't have these powers and others don't have it either.
People meeting for the first time, in ancient times, was always a stressful event for this precise reason. And simply assuming the other person is a good guy when to you have no tangible proof that these strangers are decent people ( or better yet, a documented history of good behavior) could be a costly mistake.
Accept people taking precautions when they don't know you as natural and think of it as a relationship building process. Sometimes you will prove yourself to be decent and reliable other times you will fuck up. But over time they will get a good picture and hopefully it will be positive.
Edward_Nygma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well that made me think. Ty for your frankness. Is some much needed added perspective.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, coworkers aren't always strangers
elleohehle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:33:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
the coworkers that are friends are usually the most evil of all
Avatar_of_Green ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:59:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Its subconscious, not even on purpose. Its evolved behavior.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What would be the evolutionary benefit to not wanting people to explain themselves?
Avatar_of_Green ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:58:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Man, honestly, I'm not a scientist. (Well, I have a degree in Political Science). But evolution is easy. If we are susceptible to some sort of psychological tricks its because we evolved that response.
Usually when someone isnt being honest they keep talking themselves into a hole. The less you need to say to prove yourself the better. The best papers I ever wrote in college were short, because it was easy to prove my theories.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it could be cultural too, I'm sure in other cultures they might appreciate an explanation for whatever reason, I honestly don't know
KingsConsent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:01:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And people hate honesty
time_to_nuke_china ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't. There are more liars than truthsayers. Steel yourself.
Koss424 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People, in general donโt care about your life. If mess up but seem competent people will give you a other Chance for the most part.
-Pre_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Same. learning to run a tighter ship in order to counteract it. Iโm too wide-eyed and all over the place for people and them perceiving the opposite of what Iโm trying to emit essentially is when I stop, adapt, and with that another chunk of my soul is pissed to the abyss.
seemonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't. Excessive explanations are usually a good indicator of bullshit.
serious_sarcasm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:40:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, people tend to be full of shit.
ob_gyn_kenobi3412 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:39:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People = shit
my_dogs_a_thot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:41:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedslipknot
Iusedtobeonimgur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty annoying. I don't want my coworker to tell me how he needs to feed his pet rabbit between x and y time frame and can't make it for drinks. Just say no man. When you're down, say yes.
Romanulus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Please explain.
pinkpeach11197 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Natural deceptions fml
Schrodingers_Pelosi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same.
Yeah, I tell the same story about what I'm going through right now. Because I did rehearse it. It's so I don't break down when I tell it.
RonnieFuckster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Supervillian origin story confirmed?
blampersand ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:06:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hate this so fucking much. My parents would scream and take shit away if I didn't tell them every minor detail of what I was doing at all times. Now when I have to explain to my girlfriend what I'm doing she gets mad sometimes and says I'm pulling shit out of my ass. It's never a lie and I'm conditioned to over explain all the time, yet somehow I'm always the bad guy
wilsonism ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:39:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You had shit parents too.
blampersand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:20 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh agreed, just I see them once or twice a month as opposed to my girlfriend who I see most days
Raigeko13 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:00:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
well, shit
that paints a bad picture for me because I'm the same way as that guy ๐
StopReadingMyUser ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:53:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I used to feel the need to explain things all the time. I think one of the biggest changes was realizing that when someone is upset with me or something of that nature, I have 2 responses. Mentally, I can know I didn't do anything wrong; and spiritually/emotionally I can still feel as if I did. So there's a conflict or an imbalance.
In those moments people can feel the need to Justify, get Angry, become Defensive, or Explain. Forms a nice little JADE acronym. For me personally, I just had to realize I had nothing to explain or justify that was going to help or change that person. I have to relinquish that responsibility because it's not mine to hold. If they ask, I'll explain. Other than that, I have to let them alone.
This doesn't work for social roles where people are higher than you (bosses, teachers, parents, etc.). This is just on equal grounds.
MrsFoober ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:11:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think it applies in those situations as well. I used to feel the need to explain myself as well. But I've noticed that it doesn't help at all. I've you fucked up you fucked up. 9/10 times it won't make a difference if you explain why. So save your breath unless you think it would actually help the situation in the future.
Maybe this might help people: if something happened and you feel the urge to explain why, try to count to 3 or 5 and breathe. Then ask yourself if it will change the situation in 3sec, 3min, 3hours etc Blabla. I feel like it's usually a nervous reaction when people want to explain. So take a moment to calm yourself down (if counting & breathing doesn't work think of puppies or kittens) that way you can start thinking rationally again.
Just how it worked out for me. And yes, it's fine if you don't answer a person within 0.002 seconds. So think before you speak simply.
garfnodie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:19:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When you grow up having to explain and defend to your parents everything you've ever done or are doing, it becomes so ingrained into your being that it becomes hard to break. It goes beyond simply being a habit and is just who you are like being right handed. Yes, it can be changed, but it takes time and much effort.
Caedro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Honest question, maybe Iโm on the spectrum. Why would people think Iโm full of shit for trying to explain something?
MrsFoober ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:15:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For once it's usually the same behavior of people who try to get out of it and make excuses. For another it usually wastes time and is just not helpful to the situation anyway therefor just putting more stress towards a probably fucked up situation anyway.
Try to think this way: will the explanation actually help the situation? Aka will it help find a solution? Or will a simple "sorry won't happen again" be enough already? If people do want an explanation they ask. If they don't believe you it's sadly on them and not on you.
llewd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think when you try to explain or over-explain, it makes the receiver think (probably even subconsciously)... Why does this person feel they need to convince me they're telling the truth? Oh, because they're lying.
RedHillCat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or they use you next time, or they blame you, or they start to disrespect you because of you kindness..
This is probably the most valuable tip I learned in my life. Too bad I figured it out in my 30s and not earlier.
Unless someone asks you, keep it to yourself and don't care about what and how others do.
SixthSinEnvy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:12:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or they'll always expect an explanation and become angered when you fail to provide one.
I've recently stopped all my extra unnecessary explanations in the past year/year and a half and it's causing quite a bit of problems. People really begin to think you owe them one even when the issue is truly none of their business. I refuse to give in though, I feel it's done wonders for my mental health.
Kiwiteepee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily. I work with a gurl who will give me an excuse and why she did something for EVERY question I ask, no matter how innocuous. Ill simply ask where something is, and she'll have to describe where she thinks it might be and why, when she last saw it, and then if I don't immediately find it... she's next to me helping me look for it. Like, okay i know you want to help, but relax...
I don't think she's full of shit, I just know she's super neurotic.
RealTalk_IDK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Story of my life brother
SerRikari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Has happened too many times.
asmodeuskraemer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
....well shit.
CorporalSpoon31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
thanks for this, you're 100% correct and I needed this, I gotta save this post
Petsweaters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same with saying no. If you offer up an elaborate reason why you're saying no, it seems contrived. If you just say "no, that won't work for me" then you can come just bow out
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, I can't do that.
Hopelesz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you do it all the time, chances are that you are full of shit.
OhioJeeper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think a lot of people are missing the "more you do it" part.
I'm unfortunate enough to know a few people like this. Apparently they have extremely bad luck because all the bad things happen to them and only them, and nothing is ever their fault.
If you make a mistake take ownership of it and take corrective actions to prevent it happening again. People care a lot more about something negative not happening again instead of the dozen things that were totally out of your control which caused the mistake in the first place.
LaurAuD ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:14:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I feel everytime I try to explain to the Girl Scouts that I already bought ten boxes of their cookies. I should just say no thanks. But I feel the need to explain myself so Iโm not an ass hole. Even if I did buy ten boxes, I still feel like they think Iโm a liar
Daratus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:22:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So there I was, bbq sauce on my titties
Deivv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
go on...
Madame_Blaque ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was totally unprepared for this...please continue.
IAMDREW671 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Care to embellish?
StarburstWho ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:15:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same! Friends and family usually say "we don't need the entire nine months just give us the baby" during my stories! LOL
Galadriel298 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:57:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do this because my mom was untrusting of anything I did or say. I could have video proof of me just sitting in a chair for hours and she would say I altered it. Now I constantly over explain to people in authority. It sucks and it's so hard to stop when you think everyone thinks you're lying.
fragilelyon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:08:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I will justify why I own the car I'm driving if they'll let me. I'm a lawyer's worst nightmare.
Enigma_Stasis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Because it's what I can afford."
That usually shuts people up for me.
Sparkly_Garbage ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:41:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Think about this scenario
Question... โhey do you know what time it is?โ
Answer... looks down at watch โyes I do.โ
Answer only the question being asked; use judgment though because this actual scenario obviously will make you look like a jerk lololol but the idea is there.
BassAddictJ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:42:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Plight of the rambly adhd's
thesingingknives ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:10:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Let me tell you why I do exactly the same thing
RambleLikeALeaf ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:48:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It drives me nuts when having a convo with somebody and every statement has a long trail of qualifying โbecauseโ statements. Brevity is a virtue, to a degree. Thereโs a sweet spot.
oaks4run ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:42:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have trouble with the brevity thing in emails, but phone convo or face-to-face Iโm good
BringbackSOCOM2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Emails are garbage because you can't read the situation or other person. Can't get a feeling about anything. Just emotionless contextless text on a screen. Its not natural.
whitt_wan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:32:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel the same way! It's probably because my father was a morman and i am still a chronic bed wetter, but I always feel the need to overshare. Just like I was telling the woman I'm cheating on my wife with, that I just have trouble keeping information in. Like my urine at night. /jokes
My_hilarious_name ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:40:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can you tell us more about that?
a-breakfast-food ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:56:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well see. I woke up late. Then I spilled my coffee on my shirt. My wife didn't fill up the tank in the car and there was traffic from an accident. So that's why I'm 2 hours late.
But if I really think about it none of this would've happened if my dad had just told me he loved me when I was a kid.
ColorMySorrow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just met my doppelganger.
I blame mostly all of my shortcomings on my parents and how they decided to "raise" my sister and I.
IM_SAD_PM_TITS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:29:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. My messages, emails, and text messages are always so long. Before spending it I always try to find ways to shorten it but usually I can't find anything to leave out. I feel like I always have to be detailed about everything.
goatofglee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This! I'm always afraid I'll leave something out that might be relavent. I have a question: spends three paragraphs explaining the question, why I want to know, and all the factors someone may need to consider.
angethebigdawg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is my sister! Iโm always telling her to keep to just keep it to herself and she turns it on me saying Iโm too private! One guess who is always in some kinda situation and who isnโt!?
kinipela_1015 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mine too. Iโm also awkward and tend to stutter while explaining ๐ฉ
010000110100111101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
you owe no one anything.
yeti5000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit same.
pneumatichorseman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Then the Earth cooled..."
CyberKnight1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and turned into oil. Then the Arabs came, and they bought Mercedes Benzes.
pneumatichorseman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man!
WaidWilson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same homie.
Had to testify for someone and I had to train my brain real hard for yes and no for those gotcha questions
skatetilldeath666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, me too.
4bsarrexbn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel ya bro
Briar01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel that.
Boner-b-gone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Guilt makes you weak. Be honest, but laconic.
h3fabio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Go on...
Skitzofreniks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. Iโm going to need to stop this.
saulgoodemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
First the earth cooled..... then price Charles started wearing all of lady Di's clothes.
ryanbmf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Go on.
PawelW007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yep me Iโve been trained from small business to apologize for everything from the second you walk in to the second you walk out. I finally just landed my first semi-corporate environment and Iโm having trouble adjusting but am adjusting
DaisyDondu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Eep, that's what i was going to say! Hate to admit it, but maybe its finally time for a few of those annoying youtube seminars
free-the-butthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you do give excuses they'll consider those excuses as a reason not to hire you.
"My car broke down, I can't make it."
This will be interpreted as you not having reliable transportation or being a good problem solver.
RecklessSand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That works against you a lot. (Especially if youโre talking to police)
bluelevelmeatmarket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Go on...
Needleroozer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Dad, how do locks work?"
"Well, son, everything is made up of atoms, which are so tiny we can't see them, and atoms are made up of protons, neutrons, and electronsโฆ"
LoudMusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's all you had to say. You say too much.
Narrative_Causality ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you volunteer even more info with that second sentence when the first was enough?
Roadrunners3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah me too. I always face a lot of nasty situations 'cause I'm not just able to shut the fuck up
grundlebuster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My employees will call and say they are going to be at work soon. I say ok thanks. Then they proceed to tell me the million reasons why and I have to cut them off bc I'm just happy they communicated. see you when you get here!
Generation-X-Cellent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People don't like excuses, only results.
Nimalla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I felt like that too. I started to learn how to hold back after watching VEEP.
StaticChocolate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve always done this because it was how I was brought up, only just snapping out of it and I donโt feel quite as annoying any more (:
MilkManMikey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, sorry Iโm late, but you see when I was 4 the postcode to my house was EH6 6QA and we had a neighbour next door called Jed.
seathbydnudnu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"So.. I was 15 minutes late cause the conditions were ideal for a chemical reaction that created a molecule that could replicate itself, and then a few million years later, more complex organisms built on top of these molecules which lived in the primal oceans decided that they could move to land, and then.."
ninnins89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh me too Iโm an oversharer and I forget people donโt care and I get walked all over ๐
siler7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:11:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
pier4r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
jw3b21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Everything? Okay.
crisstiena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People that go around and around the trees and houses and donโt get to the point make me want to commit murder!
Dearmstro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mom? Is that you?
rtc824 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bad trait
Gimligetsthering ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's common the younger you are and the more average your social class. I was the same and probably the vast majority of other people here. You really need that guidance and opportunity to not talk.
This is also especially true for say dealing with law enforcement. If you're privileged you never even have to deal with questions, if you're not, you might get badgered. Law enforcement walks a far wider berth in rich neighborhoods than poor ones, as just one example.
thalasi_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same, it hurts me at work every time I do it. Constantly over-explaining my way into additional work. Just stop talking, man.
SeaGroomer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"OMG, I'm so sorry I'm late. You see, 65 billion years ago the first single-cell lifeforms came to be..."
BullGooseLooney904 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can understand, but think of it this way: if you say you made a mistake, people will think, โoh, I too have made a mistake before.โ The mistake will probably be forgiven outright.
But if you start making excuses, those people will think youโre lying. Even though theyโve lied before, theyโll think youโre full of shit.
Admitting to a mistake is far better than hemโing and hawโing to explain why you werenโt in the wrong or why you should be given a break.
onetimerone ยท 7024 points ยท Posted at 00:35:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
^ Goes triple for any interface with law enforcement
[deleted] ยท 2299 points ยท Posted at 00:41:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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dbx99 ยท 2205 points ยท Posted at 00:44:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well I was in a hurry because I left my meth cooking on the stove and I need to get back before the cartel men come and pick up the drugs and hand me the cash so I can purchase the humans Iโm trafficking into the country to run an illegal prostitution ring thatโs fed to the Epstein network.
And thatโs how you get the police to let you be on your way with no further hassle.
egnards ยท 765 points ยท Posted at 01:23:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
....and speeding (big gasp)
BeGood981 ยท 398 points ยท Posted at 01:31:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Anything else? Yup....unpaid parking tickets! LOL - great scene!
Redtwooo ยท 161 points ยท Posted at 01:48:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Littering and... littering and...
SexyMonad ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 01:54:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Littering and... littering and...
towntown1337 ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 01:55:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking the reefer.
bamfsalad ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 02:01:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
YOU BOIS LIKE MEX-I-CO? WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
dudeitsscott ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:05:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Snozberries taste like snozberries!
PoleFresh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:10:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Do we make liter-a-cola?"
timmy6169 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:35:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I don't know what that is."
"Litre is French for give me some fucking cola before I break boo's fucking lip!"
mregner ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:37:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey does this look like spit to you?
that_stoner_guy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:40:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, fuck it.
timmy6169 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:44:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I got a good feeling about this one."
pull
"Damnit you burger punk! You son of a bitch!"
"Ahhhhh!"
Rospiden ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Ok outta the car mister! Now spread your cheeks and lift your sack!"
i_swear_this_isnt_me ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โก
WrongAgainBucko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Who wants a mustache ride?"
revolutionarylove321 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:08:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
๐ผ avocados from Mexico...
that_stoner_guy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And as punishment, we're gonna watch you guys smoke the WHOLE bag...
Jarred5842 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:33:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And acting like clowns
Easymmk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:59:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got this one!!
"......and smoking the reefer"
Fucking classic
84thProblem ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:15:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
... and everyone on the Group W bench slid away from me.
the_flippy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad someone else was thinking this too.
genericname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:03 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And causing a nuisance. And they all came back and we was having a real good time smoking cigarettes and playing with the pencils
Offroadkitty ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:52:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be gentle.
Desktop_Ninja_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:13:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What movie is this? Lol
Cypherex ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:24:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Here's the scene.
Desktop_Ninja_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, sweet! Thank you!
deedeebobana ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:17:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Liar, Liar with Jim Carrey
Desktop_Ninja_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:49:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
Bugman657 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:18:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think itโs Liar Liar but Iโm not sure.
Desktop_Ninja_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:50:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's it! Thanks!
boogrhookbangtriggr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:11:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
pops open glove box
SpankWhoWithWhatNow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Be gentle."
theerowantree ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Such an underrated movie
Dribbleshish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Big agree!! It's weird, I feel like I remember it being all over the place back then, but I never seem to run into anyone who has seen it anymore. It's definitely silly, but so good.
ArtemisShanks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be gentle...
ImmortalHitman720 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
lmao this is exactly what I was thinking of.
dontbemaddontbemean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, car is overloaded... too heavy... I have a big dick.
Tanski14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've had better
DeathrippleSlowrott ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 01:33:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... IN YOUR BRA!
Mmaibl1 ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 01:39:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
The pen is blue. The pen is blue.
The goddamn pen is blue!
๐คฃ
cacchip ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:52:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've had better
MgoSamir ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:44:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a little upset about a bad sexual episode I had last night.
KrullTheWarriorKing ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:53:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've had better.
antbaby-machetesquad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I use this all the time and nobody ever gets it.
Glomgore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite part of this is when the movie was made self expressions like this were considered faux pas, but nowadays you ask folks like 'what's up' and they reply with some shit like this. what am I supposed to say? 'sorry bro, maybe text her about it?'
MgoSamir ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:47:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The judge's response was great.
I still remember going to a Friday lecture, I was in the bathroom at the urinal and the TA was right next to me, he looked at me and said, "How are you doing?" Without thinking my response was, "Dude I'm hungover AF" and he gave me a shocked look and said, "Well thank you for coming, don't worry about participating."
Dribbleshish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bahahaha when you said that he said 'thank you for coming, don't worry about participating,' I thought you meant at the urinals! I thought it was funny as hell of him to say, but I was still a bit bewildered. It took me a good few moments to realize what you actually meant.
Tentaclarm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:10:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The pen is reeee
The pen is reeeeeeeeee
The pen is rrrrrrrroooyal blue!
gr8day82 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:53:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This pen that I hold in my hand, is rrrrrroyoal blue!
Zwischenzug32 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:51:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Someone at my highschool made that rant the windows logoff sound. It played the entire thing before logging off completely and it was glorious
MaxmumPimp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOzTbVVZW8Y
icematt12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Stuff like that is why he is a perfect fit for the Sonic movie. Just the right amount of crazy.
griftertm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is that it?
gravitas-deficiency ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
...and smoking the reefer.
OddFloyd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:12:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If I had gold I would give one, sir
egnards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Buy yourself a beer instead.
OddFloyd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cheers, I'll drink to that bro
N_word_pass_enabled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
liar
bobschneider24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hilarious
hoscheit44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Liar Liar
xAkMoRRoWiNdx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM
The_Lurking_Archer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah dont forget to mention that you're on speed good point
rainygirl559 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Liar
Veni_Vidi_Legi ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 01:58:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
BAD CIA! BAD!
dbx99 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:02:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Protecting American interests by giving unmarked guns to the cartels and losing them.
dgafuan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In their defense, the guns are unmarked.
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs an honest mistake. Anyone could have made it.
Aro769 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:19:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of that old speeding ticket joke.
pedantic-asshat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:44:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Wish l could remember how it goes.
grubas ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 01:52:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Guy gets stopped for speeding, goes on a rant about how heโs speeding because he has to bury the body in your trunk because (invent a long story here about illegal shit and how you violently murdered somebody), the cop is dumbstruck and radios in for backup. Backup arrives, SWAT, helicopters, everything. They pop the trunk, find nothing.
Captain goes over to the driver, โHe said you had a body in your trunk, but thereโs nothing thereโ.
โYeah, I bet that asshole said I was speeding too!โ
But you make it ridiculous and can draw it out as long as you want.
pedantic-asshat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much
grubas ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:24:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm just giving the skeleton, you can flesh it out as you want. One of my friends is very, very good at just going insane and turning these into 20 minute long jokes.
MagillaGorillasHat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:27:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Guy regularly sees a cop in his neighborhood. Cop is just a real prick. Giving people tickets for the smallest infraction, hassling kids, and just being an all around ass.
One day the guy is driving and sees the cop parked near an intersection. It's raining cats and dogs, it's super cold and it's crazy windy. Just absolutely miserable.
Guy blows through the stop sign and predictably gets pulled over. Cop drags himself out of his car and he's instantly soaked through. He' shunched over and huddling to try and stay warm.
Cop taps on the guys window. Guy barely cracks his window with the heater blasting. Cop says "Do you know why I pulled you over?" The guy nods and says "Yeah. Do you know why I ran that stop sign?"
pedantic-asshat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Different joke but l fucking love it!
bruhaha420 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:00:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom. The end.
Wishbone_508 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a rookie cop stop me on my motorcycle for going 110 in a 45mph zone. When he got to my bike he asked for my license and registration. I told him my license had been suspended and the registration is unknown because it's stolen. He then asked to look in my saddle bags. To which I replied no, because of all the loaded guns with no serial numbers inside. He then asked to search my person. I also declined this because I was on meth and a little gittery and I didn't want him to mess up my bag of cocaine. This made the lad visibly shaken. He asked me to sit on the curb until he could call for his superior officer. To that I complied. When his sergeant showed up the rookie gave him the run down and he came up to me to start the questions. He said that the patrolman told him I have drugs in my system and on my person, an expired license, stolen bike and illegal firearms. And asked if he could search me. I responded in shock and said that's crazy! I bet he said I was speeding too.
dbx99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs a good one
Joba_Fett ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โOh I see. Normal state business. Carry on, Senator. Sorry to bother you.โ
maysranch18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But Epstein definitely didnโt kill himself
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No he was safely transported to a secure location and some death certificates and coroners reports were fabricated.
Why-did-i-reas-this ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ok grown up Chunk from Goonies.
Befriendjamin ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:04:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Two questions. Where do we come from? Are we alone in the universe?
Halleyโs comet. Before Edmund Halley it was just a comet. Kepler looking through a telescope observed that regardless of whether or not Halleyโs comet was receding or advancing from the sun its tail always pointed away from the sun. He guessed sunlight was pushing it away. He theorized, 400 years ago, that one might sail in space using sunlight the way we sail on the ocean using wind. Weโve proven that it works. Our solar sail went up on a SpaceX rocket (Here Bill Nye stops speaking for 5 seconds to make rocket noises with his blown-up cheeks. Anyone who has seen Bill Nye the Science Guy knows what I mean.) It cost us 7 million dollars. Some 50,000 donors. If this was done at a government agency it might have cost over 20 times that. Thatโs 150 million dollars! I think, said Bill Nye, this is the future of space travel.
Thirty minutes ago someone asked me if I was really Bill Nye, said Bill Nye to an audience of some three thousand people at the Paramount Theatre in Oakland.
I said, Yes, I was.
He said, Whatโs your real name?
I said, William.
He said, Whyโd you change it?
Dude, said Bill Nye to the audience. Dude!
He danced on the stage. There was a giant screen behind him and he showed a picture of his father. My father left Johns Hopkins Law School in 1941, decided to become something other than a lawyer. He headed to Wake Island. Wake Island is as far from Hawaii as Hawaii is from California. Itโs right over there, he said, pointing at a map of the Pacific. He worked as a civilian constructing an air strip. He worked there in the spring of 1941, the summer. Then on December 8th Pearl Harbor was attacked. Ah! I can see some of you know it was December 7th. But my father was on the other side of the international date line. My father was a prisoner of war. The Japanese took all their watches so heโd place a stick in the ground and make a sun dial. After that he became obsessed with sun dials.
He wanted to make the Washington Monument into a sun dial. Sun dials out of everything. The angle of the gnomon is the same as the angle of latitude. Sand dials. Bill Nye shows a picture of a sand dial on the large screen behind him. He points at it with his laser pointer. My father created that. Sanddial. Get it. I went to the beach a year ago, was sitting there, and decided Iโd make a sun dial on the beach. Hereโs a picture of me, you can see me making a sand dial out of a pizza box, wine corks, and a barbecue skewer stick. I can quit whenever I want to. I just donโt want to.
My mother was a cryptographer. He shows the audience a picture of his mother. She worked for the government during World War 2. Objectively I can say she was very good at puzzles, logic games, crosswords. She never told me what she did there. Not even decades later.
Shadows hold the color of their sky. If you look closely at a shadow during the day, outside, youโll notice a hint of blue. That blue tint I call cerulescence. And this is the Viking lander. When they took a picture of the Martian sky it was off color at first. Theyโd thought it was bluer, until they looked at a shadow on Mars, realized it was beiger, oranger. Orangescence.
People always ask me what my favorite planet is. They expect me to say Jupiter or Pluto or something. No. Itโs earth. Itโs where all my friends are, man. I like it here. I think Iโll stay. You know whatโs on Mars? No food. No oxygen. Thatโs really what youโll notice first. The lack of air. Itโs earth for me. But we canโt look inward. We have to look outward. Itโs important that we do.
This is not Saturn. This is a picture of Saturn. And that little blue dot, that is Earth. Thatโs it. Thatโs all there is. You know why I have hope for the future? The overview effect. Weโve had a space station orbiting the earth for 20 years. And all the astronauts who go up there, when they come back, they say the same thing. They have more appreciation for the earth, for what we have, they have a larger perspective. Going out farther into the universe will only heighten that appreciation.
I once had a teacher named Mrs. Cochran and she told us there were more stars in the sky than grains of sand on the earth. I still remember that moment. It blew my mind. It should blow yours. But I began to feel as if I were only a speck. A speck on a speck orbiting a speck of specks. SPECKS!
He shows a picture of a silver-gray speck. Did you read about this? They discovered it recently. A piece of a meteorite that struck the earth a few years ago. It is 7 billion years old. Thatโs almost twice as old as our solar system. We are made of starstuff. Weโre the way the universe knows itself. Woh man!
He is asked what young people can do for the world. He says weโll need scientists, engineers. He says tell your parents not to vote. He says build a battery. He says build a more efficient solar panel. Youโll save the world, and youโll get rich. RICH! But save the world! And get rich! He spreads his hands wide. He takes a sip of water. This man is Bill Nye. This man taught me science.
Boarderdudeman ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 01:20:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you on the right thread?
wasalurkerforyears ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:37:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I read your comment in the voice of Sarge from Red vs Blue. "Am I talking to the right base?"
As an aside, I can't believe I read the whole thing waiting for it to relate.
floatzilla ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:43:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The real question is, are WE on the right drugs?
Rengiil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is there even a right thread for this shit?
ChefAtRandom ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 01:21:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am way too high to be reading this right now...
itsasecretidentity ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 01:33:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am not high enough to be reading this right now...
Rabies_Cat ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:36:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I literally only read that because Iโm high...
Stuck_in_the_VCR ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:39:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I need to get high....
crewchief535 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
am high
Theogram5280 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
High
i_swear_this_isnt_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna get high and read it again
SparrowDotted ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dude fucking same. Can't stop thinking about specks
Rocka101_86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am not high enough to be reading that right now...
Boarderdudeman ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:21:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you on the right thread? Or is this some copypasta I'm unaware of?
EnPii ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/birthofacopypasta
Anastariana ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:40:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/lostredditors
spicediver ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:35:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk about volunteering too much information!
ThaneOfCawdorrr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:38:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you okay, bro?
therealwillywatson ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:52:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What in the blue fuck are you rattling on about?
james-c-m-kim ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:21:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm.
But it wasn't in iambic pentsmeter, and now I am nonplussed.
DonQuixotel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:37:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care what is going on, this was a great read.
Grundy26 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:44:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely infectious enthusiasm. All teachers should aspire to be like Bill Nye
InfiNorth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting the announcer's table to come up at the end.
DickButtPlease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs Johns Hopkins.
protosquirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
... but don't let this distract you from the fact that in nineteen ninety eight The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
CthragYaska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Read the whole Bill Nye thing expecting this to be at the end...
midnightdoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Does this happen to be a video you can share the source with? Interested to actually see him explain...
the tail of a comet always pointing away from the sun... Iโve never thought of that, maybe he is onto something there..
But Iโd want to see for myself, itโs perplexing that if the comet were to orbit the sun it makes sense the tail is behind on its way to the sun, but where is the tail during the orbit when itโs beside the sun etc.. does the tail move kind of like a shadow that the comet is going straight and the tail sideways.. ๐คฏ
mariahcarter13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
also my 2 year old child is home alone so I was rushing to get back before the macaroni on the other burner is finished cooking. Sorry I thought I put my turn signal on back there but that entire taillight is busted
midas_1988 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not if you're black...
dbx99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair Iโm pretty sure Jeffery Epstein didnโt recruit african Americans into his exclusive pedo racket business
ACaffeinatedWandress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, I'm worried that my 8 year old will get her dirty little hands on it, officer. I do my best to belt right and wrong into her, but every damn time I leave her in the house alone with my drugs...
DefendedCobra29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot the most important part:
"And yes, officer, I am 100% white."
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Got my thin blue line American flag sticker right here
jooshpak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a good reason, carry on sir
bored-on-the-toilet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Annnnnd your on a list
bPhrea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, thanks for the reminder to watch Ozark again! :)
SpecOpsAlpha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckinโ lololol!
Mafzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cop: uhhh I pulled you over cuz your tail light was out
dbx99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:12:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well officer you sure know a lot of sensitive information now. Can I interest you in our oligarch billionaire pedophile protection network? We may need some people suicided once in a while. It pays well.
Leonos8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If i have a lot of money in the future, Iโm gonna say this when i get pulled over, i promise you that
Cant_Do_This12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Anything else?"
"I also have a bunch of unpaid parking tickets"
- Jim Carrey
Furyian13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Shame on you!! You neglected to mention the bodies in the trunk & the knock off hand bags & DVD's in the back seat
TubaDeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I was on my way to this gay Gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled, when I suddenly thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think I'll kill the Fuhrer'. Who's with me?
Lmb1011 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm too tired to be on Reddit because I just read "I left my math book cooking on the stove"
Which to me seemed like a weird yet valid reason to be speeding
Top_Rekt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Epstein you said? Alright well let you off with a warning.
dennis_dennison ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sir, I asked if you had seen the stop sign a mile back.
dbx99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Am I free to go or am I being detained!
pokey_bum_wannk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just so y'all know this guy โฌ didn't kill himself
SpeedycatUSAF ยท 554 points ยท Posted at 01:23:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"do you know how fast you were going?"
"Within the margin of error of your speed measuring device."
I guarantee you will either get a chuckle out of the officer and a warning. or a ticket. Or both.
Dcarozza6 ยท 217 points ยท Posted at 01:44:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Either a warning or a ticket
At least one of them is guaranteed
PM_GPOY ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 01:59:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
60% of the time it works every time
Tanski14 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:30:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to be honest, that smells like pure gasoline
WWhataboutismss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"It smells like bigfoot's dick."
beatlefreak_1981 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:15:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"It smells like a used diaper filled with Indian food."
chickensaredecentppl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:15:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's got real bits of panther, so you know it's good
hammer166 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The best answer, 5/7!
T-T-N ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:51:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or get a null reference exception because the officer didn't have a speed gun
pknk6116 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
no chance for a courtesy bj at least?
man cops are the worst.
All-Top-This-Hour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, there's no guarantee you'll receive a warning or ticket. As long as you have your police courtesy card handy!
Aprufer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"A ticket?? Can I get a blowjob instead?"
LilFingies45 ยท 312 points ยท Posted at 01:58:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Jokes aside, never do or say anything memorable like this. They pull over dozens of people every day, and when they testify months later if you contest the ticket in court (and they show up, since sometimes they don't and then the case is typically thrown out), they're more likely to remember you. It's easier to make a case if they can't honestly remember it.
If you go to court and it's a speeding ticket, ask the cop for documentation on when the radar gun was last calibrated. They grow inaccurate over time and need to be recalibrated frequently to keep them within a reasonable margin of error. And, if the officer hasn't been properly trained or used the gun while your car was not on a flat road or when the line of sight was obstructed.
Anyway, just be polite and unremarkable, but of course don't apologize or admit any wrongdoing. Play dumb if you have to.
EDIT: To people saying this wouldn't work, I saw this exact strategy work while sitting in the courtroom awaiting my own speeding trial. You (or your lawyer if you bring one) are allowed to cross-examine the police officer, who is a witness. If they don't have documentation showing a recent calibration, then the case for speeding becomes very weak very fast.
acu2005 ยท 159 points ยท Posted at 03:01:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Back in 2010 Ohio ruled that an officers estimate is enough to convict a speeding ticket. Dude got pulled over and his lawyer got the radar evidence thrown out but even then the court ruled an officer is trained enough to know if someone is speeding. Went all the way to the state supreme Court and the court ruled 5-1 against the driver.
Complete bullshit if you ask me.
Edit: did a bit more digging and found out the state legislature passed a bill that made it so this situation wouldn't happen again, turns out this would still work in Ohio.
LilFingies45 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:17:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that sucks. I mean it all depends on individual jurisdictions. That totally is bullshit, though.
paul-arized ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:06:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So YMMV. Literally.
LilFingies45 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:12:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. Sure. I mean, research your local laws before going to court, of course. But, in most parts of the country you're still afforded enough justice to make your case in traffic court. Pretty sure that scenario is an outlier, and notice the edit where the Redditor says they did away with that legislation. (Unsurprisingly, because it's pretty unconstitutional to not have a fair trial.)
paul-arized ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:22:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Been watching The Good Wife. If they want to pull you over for other reasons, e.g. civil forfeiture, then they will. I believe Obama tried to make that illegal (thanks John Oliver!) but not sure if local and state jurisdictions have.
LilFingies45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but then the burden of proof increases wrt probable cause. Doesn't mean you shouldn't defend yourself in court...
Yeah the whole system is corrupt af. Trust me I know that. Doesn't mean you shouldn't do what you can to defend yourself.
Lookslikeitsmellstoo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:57:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sad part is, from what I've heard on the news, some places have to register speed limits, or something along the lines. I remember someone getting out of a speeding ticket in Saranac, MI because the city hadn't handled something properly and the speed limit was null. It was all over the news for a week because of how obserd it seemed. Maybe someone has the time to find it.
MadsenLFC ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:57:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey I don't mean to be the annoying guy correcting others (and hopefully won't)... It's spelled "absurd". :-)
Gen-Pop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Now you're being obserd
111122223138 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:02:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And to think, in order to wield that kind of ludicrous power over another citizen, you need just four months of training.
A third of a year! And you can be the bully you've always wanted to be.
chennyalan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck
johnpatricko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:24:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a police officer when I was trained on RADAR/LIDAR I had to successfully identify the speed of passing vehicles to the exact number (ie 51mph, not 50mph) 20 consecutive times without failure. This was recorded and stored in a file to support my ability to accurately gauge speed of passing vehicles without my equipment if the equipment came under scrutiny.
This was many years ago. I've taught at the police academy since then, and have not seen this practice. But I can still prove in court that I have enough training to know the speed of a vehicle without equipment.
LilFingies45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Very believable...
johnpatricko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah well it's recorded, so...
LilFingies45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure it is. Cops never lie or turn off their recording devices!
johnpatricko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ACAB amiright
LilFingies45 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely.
johnpatricko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
;)
LilFingies45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:44 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Aww that's cute.
LeftHandYoga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hell here in Virginia you can be convicted of a DUI just on officer testimony alone. I've seen it, so I don't want any know-it-alls to come in here and tell me it doesn't happen
LilFingies45 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:15:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A DUI is not the same thing as speeding, however, and I was in a Fairfax, Virginia court when I witnessed this strategy being effectively deployed, just in case you're implying that I'm a "know-it-all".
LeftHandYoga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:20 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wat
LilFingies45 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:06:19 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Believe whatever you want, fool.
LeftHandYoga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:45 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I watted you because you're being ridiculously confrontational for no reason.
Take your little penis complex somewhere else
freds_got_slacks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We have this up in canada as well. A police officers subjective judgement of speed is given an accuracy of something like +/- 20 km/h, which seems reasonable for school zones, but maybe not as much for highway speeds
LagCommander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that sounds like a complete load, definitely no way to have any oversight or bias there..
In a similar story, I was pulled over after getting into a honk war with my at-the-time GF, along with some fast take-offs as we went our separate ways (late at night).
Cops got a complaint and/or heard the noise and then just gunned it down the road and caught up to the "suspect" (i.e. me), and one of the things they tried saying to get me to admit to speeding was "Well I had to go so fast to catch up with you!" and the arse in me wanted to say how that makes sense since he'd have to go faster than me to...catch up with me.
Notsohiddenfox ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:34:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I met a person who lost control of a vehicle at speed. The vehicle was toast but the person was fine minus minor injuries. Emergency personnel and highway enforcement both kept asking for the speed. The person always responded with "highway speeds", "catching up to traffic", and "65". When asked excessively the person would act as if the stressful event was clouding memories. This person got scot-free and received s large insurance payout on a vehicle requiring major repairs.
Never answer more than required.
Phantom_61 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:54:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt they also need recertifications every year for usage?
LilFingies45 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They certainly need recalibrations far more frequently to be accurate, from what I read when I was researching this. More like a monthly basis to not have a significant margin of error. Idk what department policy or legal statute would typically call for, and I imagine that differs by jurisdiction.
This was a few years ago, and it's entirely possible that newer radar tech requires less frequent recalibrations.
jennRec46 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What happened in your speeding case ?
LilFingies45 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:15:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I wanted to use the same strategy and probably could have gotten at least a reduced fine if not a case dropped (as mine was with the same officer), but I honestly just chickened out at the last moment. I would have been braver and definitely gone through with my plan today, but I was young and felt intimidated by the courtroom back then.
Was apologetic and explained how it was a speed trap. Got a reduced penalty. I think I was able to avoid the normal penalty in exchange for doing some stupid one-day "traffic school" test (which was just a Web app test at some random, weird business that offered it), since it was my first traffic offense. Don't remember what the final fine or point penalty was.
Anyway, I'm a Web developer by trade and that "traffic school" test was so fucking easy, but they penalize you by making it take like 2 minutes before you're allowed to answer each question, of which I could solve most in like 15 or 20 seconds. I viewed the source and noticed the timeout was implemented very simply in JavaScript, so I was able to zero out the timeout value in console on each question and get out of there in like 45 minutes. The test was designed to take like 6 hours lmao.
SheepD0g ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ELI5 on how to do this
LilFingies45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
How to do what? Hacking the JavaScript?
EDIT: Idk if I'll check replies or feel like replying until tomorrow, but in case that's what you meant I basically searched source for "timeout", since most variables are descriptively named. At least they should be for readable code. I found it easily and reset its value to 0, by using browser tools which made it trivial to assign values to JavaScript variables, since it was a "timeout", which is a countdown.
Can provide more context tomorrow if you want. I'm drinking and getting tired now. ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
PizzaRevenge ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:35:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most places require the radar to be calibrated every day, so that argument isn't likely to work
dust-free2 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:05:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The argument can work because humans make mistakes. In fact you can ask for the manuals, service record for the device, notes the cop took and other information being used against as evidence. Guess what happens when the records show the calibration was not done when as often as the manual states? Case dismissed. You also can get off the gun was off often thus create doubt the gun was defective. Evidence is powerful.
Discovery is still valid for traffic cases because it's still a court case. The case can dismissed for them failing to give you the evidence you asked for. Many tickets have a portion for discovery and many cops and offices will neglect to pay attention to this. Furthermore, bring a copy of your ticket to the court. It is needed if that was where you requested discovery of evidence.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/beat-ticket-book/chapter9-3.html
GeenMachine ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:47:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dead on, balls accurate?
It's an industry term.
Nick_named_Nick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That was a powerful scene. Wow.
MyThickPenisInUranus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That actress looks good.
GeenMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Marissa Tomei -She won a best supporting actress Academy Award for the role. The movie is My Cousin Vinnie
MyThickPenisInUranus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was really not referring to her acting skills.
DisappointedBird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What movie is that?
Yorkaveduster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin Vinny
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/my_cousin_vinny
DisappointedBird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you sir
regarding_your_cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I guess the fuckinโ thing is broken
JacksonDesigns ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:48:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen that work out for exactly that reason. One model in use is allegedly supposed to be calibrated after every stop, and of course they never are.
ALoneTennoOperative ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:53:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but do they actually always do it?
LilFingies45 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:41:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I've seen this work. Cop brought in the calibration document, and it was like 6 months since the last calibration. Where are you even getting this idea from?
There may be a policy to require frequent calibrations, but people often get lazy or are incompetent, police officers not excluded.
Starfireaw11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:01:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Testing is different to calibration.
savetheunstable ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably depends on the state, or maybe even county. My gf got out of a speeding ticket in Oregon using the calibration argument and the officer had to admit it hadn't been checked in over 6 months. Judge dismissed the ticket as soon as he heard this. The downside is having to fight this took hours out of the day, not sure if it's standard but you basically get a number and wait your turn to go up.
Cinnamon79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fight it by mail if you can. The police at least in Los Angeles don't get paid overtime for going to court, but have to prepare a written report. So if you appeal by letter first and the cop does not contest it, then you get the ticket reversed.
slipperypills ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This point! My wife was pulled over in the morning taking a short cut through a neighbourhood-against a street sign that said no turning during X hours.
She had the kids in the car and pulled the โIโm a mother late for workโ card. She challenged the ticket. A year later he remembered her vividly.
willsagain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As fast as you were going when they nicked you?
LilFingies45 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Think I was going like 37 or 38 in one of those areas where the limit keeps going back and forth between 25 and 35. I thought the limit was still 35. Honestly that road should have been 35 the whole part.
Darth-Obama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I successfully defended my self in court against a ticket once...it was awesome...
LilFingies45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I chickened out last second. :(
Wish I had more bravery when I was young. Congrats!
Darth-Obama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One of my greatest stories ever... trial by bench, meaning no jury and I busted the cop and prosecutor for hearsay...
When I was pulled over, one cop came up an did first interaction/interview...but the second cop came back to give the actual (fucker gave me 3) tickets.
Trial day: I see only one cop so I pled not guilty and requested a bench trial (so that it would be right then n there...no 2 cops coming back for jury trial)
The prosecutor asked the cop what happened and he told the story but he told both sides...
When it was my turn I said "officer you keep telling us what the other officer said and did...is he here today?"
"No"
"You honor isn't everything he just said...uhhh what's the word.....hearsay?"
Judge: "that absolutely is hearsay and I find all of that testimony inadmissible."
"Uh ok"
Judge: "any further questions Mr. Darth-Obama?"
"Uh no ma'am?"
Judge: "I find reasonable doubt in this case all charges dismissed"
Holy shit
The judge looked at me and pointed to the clerk lady about 10 feet away...I walked over an said "DID I WIN"?
Clerk lady as she uses big stamp on my paperwork: " Yea good job counselor" in a kinda funny kinda smart ass way.
Best part is my totally honest and trustworthy buddy went with me so I had a witness...otherwise none of my fuckwit friends would have believed a word of it...
saltymotherfker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You think officers dont make notes for this reason? Lol. Their notes are used against you and they can record whatever you said, whether or not you made yourself memorable.
LilFingies45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
What? Their notes are pretty useless for making their case if their radar is dysfunctional, by virtue of not being properly calibrated, or if you can demonstrate they weren't trained properly or didn't use the radar gun properly. And if there's nothing memorable about the stop, then there's not much to write down, is there? Cops aren't judges, justices, and executioners. At least not yet in America.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:20:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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DavidLovato ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:41:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god youโre not a judge, then. Witness asks a valid question and your response is to fine them?
And your counsel is to instead lie and say everyone else was also speeding, as though that isnโt still a crime you just admitted to in court.
Also, pleading โno contestโ is the same as pleading guilty. Itโs just a way for you to save face and plead guilty without using the actual words โIโm guilty.โ If you plead no contest on a speeding ticket, the penalty is almost always going to be paying the ticket.
annul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:17:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
in my jurisdiction if you get a ticket and plead guilty you pay a fuckton more than if you plead not guilty and then show up to the hearing and change your plea before trial. the magistrate basically comes out and announces anyone who changes plea to no contest will pay like $50 and get no points. it's all a racket and just a revenue generator but if you dont know what the deal is you could just plead guilty and be fucked even harder
savetheunstable ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah the equipment law enforcement uses must be up to standards that can be verified. Most people are too apathetic, uneducated, or simply just don't have the time to defend themselves in court, sadly.
LilFingies45 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:25:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
You're allowed to cross-examine the witness (the cop). It wouldn't be seen as a challenge to the judge. I've seen this done when I was in the courtroom awaiting my own case to be called. A guy got his speeding charge dropped, because the calibration documentation showed that it was outdated which rendered a margin of error higher than how much he was speeding by.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:26:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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Phag-B0y ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:41:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How is the court supposed to know if itโs in calibration or not unless the prosecution presents evidence that it is?
penatbater ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:58:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't make sense. If the idea of a judge or the court is to dispense justice fairly, how is it fair to be given a speeding ticket by a machine that may not even accurately capture your speed? For all you know you could be going 65 on a 70, but the machine, because it's not calibrated well, reads it at 78.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:05:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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penatbater ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Conversely, if you didn't do the crime, you don't wanna do the time. Asking for sth like this in no way demonstrates guilt. And how does it show you're lying? All you asked was to see the calibration records. No lie there.
It's clear you're projecting your own biases and what you think a judge would do, when it's clear you actually don't know, and also when folks here have already stated that stuff like this works.
LilFingies45 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't. It looks like you didn't know you were speeding that much, which can easily happen. It's trying to set the record straight. You're allowed to defend yourself in court, even a traffic court.
jewww ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay buddy.
dust-free2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:07:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You do this before the case. It's called discovery and they are required to honor this request or the case is dismissed.
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/beat-ticket-book/chapter9-3.html
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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port443 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even if it is true that you look like you're trying to weasel out of a ticket (which maybe it is, maybe it isn't), so what?
Consider the risk/reward here.
Risk: You look like a smart-ass.
Reward: You don't pay hundreds on a ticket (and associated insurance costs).
Is there another risk you're concerned with, or is the only risk on the table how some strangers perceive you?
small edit: And I realize my question looks like a bait question, but I am actually curious about that. It's hard to convey tone in text =/
dust-free2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You don't look like a smart ass, you look smart because you are trying to verify the facts against you.
If you get stopped by a cop saying they cost your wearing is stolen you don't go to jail, you ask for evidence of that assertion. Do you look dumb saying what the proof is that the coat was stolen?
Never shy away from questioning evidence because the facts may not be correct and that is the purpose of court.
LilFingies45 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:27:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What does this even mean?
VannatyReyne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You think actually using evidence in a court of law is someone being a smart ass?
That makes no sense. As a judge you'd just essentially find anyone accused of anything guilty just because they can't defend themselves.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:36:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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LilFingies45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LOL CALM DOWN MY GUY NO ONE IS YELLING
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:47:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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VannatyReyne ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No what you're saying is you think corruption in court is justifiable.
LilFingies45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I understand that is frustrating, but it's not like you're being brigaded by trolls. It's just that you seem determined to dissuade people from defending themselves in traffic court, which is a pretty unpopular opinion.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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LilFingies45 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:41:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! Or just don't allow a cop to give you a ticket based on a dysfunctional radar gun's readout, ya criminal bastard!
gingasaurusrexx ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 02:07:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Last time I got asked that, I answered truthfully. "Not until I saw you." I was running late, and on a highway that crossed county lines going from 50 to 35. The moment I saw him I realized I was on the wrong side of that speed limit sign and slowed down. Fucker followed me halfway through town before turning his lights on, but I did get off with a warning.
earthwormjim91 ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 02:52:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
He followed you to run your plates and stuff. He had probably already decided to give you a warning and just wanted to run your stuff before stopping you.
gingasaurusrexx ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:00:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I get that, but it was like 2.5 miles of me constantly checking my mirror not sure if he was gonna do it or not. It was a little overkill, imo.
dgafuan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:41:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Time to air out the cockpit, if you catch my drift. He was being cool.
Bobzilla0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well its possible that they were being considerate by doing all the stuff before pulling you over you wouldn't be stopped for as long.
probably not though
Generation-X-Cellent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Guilty people will get nervous and drive under the speed limit, make lots of body movements, or attempt to turn off the road when police follow them. You passed the guilty test.
Grieve_Jobs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:43:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he is just dark skinned?
Generation-X-Cellent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pick 1
oramaj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It doesnโt matter how guilty or not, I drive like ass whenever thereโs a cop behind me.
LilFingies45 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:38:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's what they do. They like to intimidate you into making a mistake like not staying fully in your lane or rolling through a stop sign, etc., so they have the option of racking up the charges.
Maybe they're running plates, like the other guy said, but I've had this happen and they still made me wait for like 10 minutes while I'm sitting in my car, which was perfectly above board and I had zero prior traffic incidents. Intimidation is a very fundamental tactic employed by American police.
Rising_Swell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't take more than a couple seconds to run plates.
LilFingies45 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:43:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. There is a vest video that made r/all recently on here of a judge getting pulled over by an unwitting cop, and dude was all "Do you know wtf I am?!?!?" Plates were run immediately, in a few seconds like you say. It actually blew my mind. An apology and a "Have a good day, sir!" was immediately issued thereafter.
lifeofry4n52 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:27:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That kind of attitude pisses me off, I mean, yeh, you're a judge and you up hold the law but you're not immune to it and you're certainly not immune to being pulled over.
Rising_Swell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:01:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Any issue attached to the license can literally be done in the time it takes to do a uturn, it's nuts.
earthwormjim91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely does. Radio in to dispatch, read off the plate, dispatch runs the plate for current status on that, takes the registered owner's name from that and runs that to see if there are any outstanding warrants, then radios back.
It's the same thing they do you're actually speeding too fast and they just pull you over immediately. They take your papers and go back and run them. It takes a minute or two, which lines up with what they said going about 2.5 miles.
Rising_Swell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh... no. Camera on cop car sees plate, plate is run. Under 5 seconds, no problems. I've been pulled over because I just bought a car from a guy with a suspended license as I drove past a cop around a corner. Opposite side of the road, they didn't follow me, just instant lights and whipped around.
earthwormjim91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Some places sure. Not the majority of places.
Rising_Swell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Limiting factor would be data connection. Anywhere there's a decent data connection (North of 500KB/s) would have 0 problems doing this at all. The basic idea is that because you have to register your vehicle, it's tied to the name of who registered it last, and if there's any issue it'll be known effectively immediately.
arpan3t ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:18:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
which can be a large margin, a lot of variables at play when it comes to accurate radar speed detection.
AryaStarkRavingMad ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:56:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
100% chance you're white.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:01:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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SlipNotIntoSleep ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:12:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try! That's what the devil would say!
/s
AryaStarkRavingMad ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:18:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not calling you the devil...
ALoneTennoOperative ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:54:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You leave upstanding members of the community out of this.
Weird_Fiches ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Do you know how fast you were going?"
"Yes" Then stare silently.
captain_pandabear ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:45:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โWouldnโt you like to know ticket boyโ
Cleavon_Littlefinger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
User name checks out.
KumaAsshole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're better off saying something like "the speedometer said x" with x being within the speed limit. You diminish intent if you followed the law but were victim of a faulty guage, and you might make them question the accuracy their reading if there's a competing one being given by the vehicle.
usherzx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
how do you get a warning and a ticket?
SpeedycatUSAF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A warning can be either verbal or an official one on paper.
darkdonnie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got pulled over and had no idea how to answer that question properly.
CultofCedar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol within the margin of error? Iโve had an Arizona state trooper go on a 15 minute rant about how his speed gun was just calibrated and how the brand new car with 300 miles I rented was clearly reading wrong on the speedometer. 0% chance it was the other guy he clocked that sped off into the sunset since there was only me him and the trooper who exited to get onto the overhead ramp to clock โmeโ even though Iโd spent the last 5 miles behind both of them.... absolutely mind boggling shit. God bless cameras though since I had 3 inside the car including one pointing at the speedometer lol
dgafuan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That trooper sounds like a doofus if he can't even tell who he's pointing the radar at. That said, what do you do that you have 3 running cameras with you while you drive?
CultofCedar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yea he said heโd let us go easy with a warning after I showed him the recording through my phone. I guess he just couldnโt admit he was wrong. It was just luck I had them running since we were on a road trip and I own many cameras. Iโm pretty sure we were being targeted since it we were driving a nice Camero and weโd been pulled over 2 other times previously (0 tickets). Ive never even gotten a parking ticket before that trip... so yea I avoid sports cars now for rentals lol.
We were going 70 on cruise control (speed limit) and he said we were going 90+
Dash cams are cool though. Four on my current car (front back and both sides) and I have tracking that shows my speed but I donโt know how well that data would go with the authorities but at least I have video proof.
Wheel_redbarrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got pulled over by a cop my first day back to work from maternity leave. He asked me if I knew how fast I was going. Speed limit was 65 there and my best guess was honestly 70/75? Cop got FURIOUS at me, told me I was going over 95 miles an hour and how the HELL could I possibly think that kind of speed is normal?! Do I just ALWAYS drive that fast and I'm just somehow used to it?ย
I was already nervous about going back to work, and in a new car, no less, and now here's this cop yelling at me like an angry-disappointed parent. I just completely broke down. Crying, panicking, verbal diarrhea about maternity leave and postpartum anxiety and how my old car was a bucket of bolts that would start rattling like a paint shaker if I went any faster than 70, and we got this new car so it'd be safer for the baby but I haven't even driven it because I've been scared to leave the house with her because she's just so tiny, and I had no idea how fast I was going and oh God, how long was I going that fast? Oh God, what if I'd hit someone? Oh, God, what if I'd had my baby in the car? I started hysterically thanking him for pulling me over because oh God what if he hadn't, which sent me into another panic spiral--I'm going to be so late, it's my first day back, I'm going to get fired. Maybe I SHOULD be fired, how the hell could I go back to work when my baby is just an infant and oh God I've never been away from her for a whole day before, it's like a part of me is just ripped outโฆย
I vaguely remember fumbling for my meds and panic-explaining that I have an anxiety disorder, I have a prescription for these, and he said, "Wow, yeah, uh, I can see that."
Oh, and all this crazy emotional drama triggered letdown, so I was leaking breastmilk through my shirt throughout all of this.ย
He didn't give me a ticket or even a written warning. (paperwork for him writing me just a warning for going, like, 96 mph would have looked REALLY bad for him so I think he decided "this never happened.") He apologized (??!?!), told me to calm down, pay attention to what I'm doing and go by what the speedometer says, instead of how the car feels.
TLDR: You CAN volunteer too much information to the cops, but only if you're a genuinely-panicking white female (I acknowledge my unearned privilege) and the TMI you're volunteering is so uncomfortably personal that they just want to not think about it anymore and get the hell out of there.
canoeguide ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:14:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to look in your rear view mirror to check that you're white before making this joke. Otherwise you might end up making the officer feel scared and get yourself killed.
MaxCharger24 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:28:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT, there's no margin of error on radar guns. If it says 56 and you're in a 55, you can get a ticket.
pandemonious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
.... that's just wrong bud. Any device has a margin of error built in. Nothing is 100% accurate. Things need to be calibrated, tested, and verified on a regular schedule.
MaxCharger24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Whether or not there is actually a margin or error, according to the law, the radar gun is correct. Go ahead and test it if you like the next time you get pulled over.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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SpeedycatUSAF ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"he's delusional, someone take him to the infirmary."
Travy93 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:57:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Too much blind hatred in this comment.
IntelligentForce6 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 03:23:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-Offers 3 outcomes
-Says "Or both"
What a FUCKING moron.
SpeedycatUSAF ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:50:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I guess subtle humor is lost on you.
oramaj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well he is a VERY intelligent force cโmon you know heโs right.
ParisGreenGretsch ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 01:26:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Technically, officer, I pulled myself over."
askingforafakefriend ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 01:59:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Better hope office is a Dad
HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:18:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hi, Dad. This is office.
ParisGreenGretsch ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:22:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Office, step into my dad.
TFC1234 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:23:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dad?
HalfSoul30 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:35:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Son?
paul-arized ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If your dad's name Jim? And is he slim?
IfItWasntWhoItIs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:26:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"13 billion years of infinite coincidences guided that steering wheel over, officer. It's not like I had a say in the matter."
jtl3000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Classic
YesImKeithHernandez ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 01:51:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Cause I'm young and I'm black and my hat's real low?"
rockinout2silence ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 02:24:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do I look like a mind reader, sir? I don't know
PM_ME_UR_SYLLOGISMS ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:38:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Am I under arrest or should I guess some more?
jrHIGHhero ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:44:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well you were doing 55 in a 54.
JJsnuuskanen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:28:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
License and registration and step out of the car
rockinout2silence ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:02:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Are you carrying a weapon on you? I know a lot of you are"
Wnc1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got 99 problems....
JJsnuuskanen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Damn you, broke the chain. "License and registration and step out of the car"
greebly_weeblies ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:16:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The Benz too.
Wannabkate ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:29:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Because you're bored and fishing. Aka try to catch anyone doing anything close to wron.
Chalino69 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 01:02:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always tell them I have no clue, twice they let me go with a warning. Twice they gave me the speeding ticket. I still like those odd.
RenterGotNoNBN ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:50:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Have you tried not speeding? Works for me 100% of the time.
Chalino69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:55:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well I was a dumb teenager I havenโt had a ticket in years.
Buckiez ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:57:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"To be old and wise we must first be young and stupid."
alyssgreyheart ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:24:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or we must be young and read the LPT comments.
orionescens ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:36:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Done both, being stupid is a lot more effective
Blue-Steele ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My MIL got pulled over for doing 1 mph over the limit. On the other hand, Iโve passed multiple highway patrol cars while doing 80 in a 70, and not one of them even bothered to look at me. My general rule of thumb is youโre generally safe doing 10% over the limit, ie 44 in a 40, 55 in a 50 and so on. But on the highway you can typically get away with 10 over as a lot of people do 10 over and the cops are more interested in the people doing 15 or 20 over.
Chalino69 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:04:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Plus MPโs will pull you over for going a mile over. Fuck MPโs.
eseehcsahi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:44:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Members of parliament?
nolo_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Redcaps.
Pitchfork_Party ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always say I just passed a big truck or camper or something.
1337GameDev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ehhh.
I just am honest and up front.
If I was speeding, then I shouldn't do that. They don't make the rules for no reason.
ambermage ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:59:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you forgot, I'm not going to remind you officer.
UhPhrasing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:20:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
haha I like this one a lot, itโs cute enough to not warrant aggression, if youโre white
Killtrend ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:52:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This was a good one. Innocent enough to say, will probably get a laugh, wonโt cause them to repeat the question. If they do repeat the question:
โOk now I know you forgot. Iโm definitely not telling you.โ
Aprufer ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 00:43:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Except they'll ask "Did you know you were doing 65 mph in a 45?"
skylarmt ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 01:31:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"This pile of garbage can go 65?!"
CosbyQuaalude ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:28:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got pulled over once for speeding and the officer claimed I was doing 85 in a 65. I know he was lying because my 96 Cherokee's speedometer only went to 85 and I was not pinned. I got a ticket but it was so far from my house it wasn't worth my time to fight it.
WingedGeek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I could have sworn the XJ went to 120, but apparently that was only the last ('97-01) iteration. Odd, I guess I misremember our '91 4.0L Limited going past 85. My '95 Wrangler, with a slightly detuned version of the 4.0L that's in the XJ, is marked to 100 mph.
Septopuss7 ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 00:47:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I didn't know I couldn't do that officer."
BG40 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 01:33:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs funny, because I did know I couldnโt do that.
Crazy_Melon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:49:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Chip, no! Chip! Don't do it!"
droppedyourdingo ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:55:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm sorry officer, I'm trying to get away from a deranged shooter that's about to come into contact wi---"
ScrubKaiser ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:56:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you under the influence of alcohol or any other controlled substance?
FUBAR_Inc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well if it's controlled howd I get it?
skankunt ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:18:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes you gotta race
justwanttopost1thing ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:14:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dave Chappelle reference?
Putins_Kumquat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:33:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
....you didn't know you couldn't do that....?
washbeo2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The Tom Brady defense: "I misinterpreted the rules"
LeighWillS ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 01:50:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Actual correct answer is something like. โSorry officer, if I was, I wasnโt aware.โ
Keep polite, but donโt admit guilt.
grissomza ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:05:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Lack of road awareness, reckless driving, GET OUT OF THE CAR AND ON THE GROUND!"
Psych_Law ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:21:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
"STOP RESISTING!!"
itanimullIehtnioJ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:16:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No lie, thats the equivalent of saying you either dont know the speed limit or dont know how fast you were going. Actual correct answer is โNo.โ and waiting for them to ask for your ID and registration.
DavidLovato ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:55:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What? If an officer says โdid you know you were going 85 in a 65?โ And you answer โNoโ how is that any better? Youโre still just admitting you either donโt know the speed limit or donโt know how fast you were going. The question is framed so that both โyesโ and โnoโ are admissions of guilt. Thatโs the entire point of the question and why they usually ask it first.
Correct answer is to either say nothing or politely tell them you arenโt answering questions about your day.
RedsAnatomy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:00:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, I did not know I was going 85 in a 65, because I was going 65.
DavidLovato ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:01:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That is one million percent not how your statement will be presented in court.
Not to mention if you were actually going 64 or 66, youโve now also falsified information and committed another crime.
Edit: in general, donโt approach police or the court system with the mentality that youโre going to use syntax or a technicality to free yourself. The opposite is way, way more likely to happen.
RedsAnatomy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:17:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"youโve now also falsified information and committed another crime."
No, you haven't, unless you knew that you were going 66 and said you were going 65. But it's also impossible for you to know the exact moment which the radar caught you, and speeds always fluctuate slightly (whether due to your speedometer or your actual car), it's just about impossible to be certain about your exact speed, and thus impossible to lie about it within a certain range. Any information you give would be a best guess. Imagine how many witnesses would be in jail right now if they were charged every time they got a fact slightly wrong.
Now, if you were literally going 85, then probably shut up. But if you were going 65 and the cop is lying to trick you/the radar is horribly miscalibrated, then your statement would not be wrong at all. Seriously, would love for a cop to try to convince a judge that you're guilty because "he almost fell for my trick statement and began his response with no!" Bonus points if you or the cop has a recording.
DavidLovato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:23:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Have you never heard the saying โignorance of the law is no excuse?โ
You not knowing how fast you were going means they can claim how fast you were going. They have a radar gun, you just admitted you donโt know how fast you were going. Youโve just handed them a blank check.
This isnโt a hard concept. If youโre being stopped or detained, just donโt say anything concrete and donโt answer questions. It can and will be used against you, the police themselves will tell you this.
They arenโt going to assume youโre just giving your best guess because the entire reason they stopped you is to cite you for a crime they believe youโve committed. They arenโt stopping you to hear your side of the story, theyโre stopping you to give you a ticket, and you telling them how fast you think you were going or telling them you donโt know just fast track the process.
Edit: For the record, youโre absolutely right semantically. But that isnโt how it works in court; the police can simply say they asked you what speed you were going and you answered incorrectly. Sure, if your lawyer is smart theyโll cross-examine and make them specify it was by a negligible amount, but itโs not smart to bank on that. Even then, your fate is still in the hands of a judge or jury, who almost universally side with the police.
dontFart_InSpaceSuit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:16:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
you just come on reddit and talk our your ass for fun? What's the deal here? No, as the person you're responding to mentioned, just keep the information you give an officer to the BARE MINIMUM. period. "are you aware?" no. That doesnt mean anything like you implied, and that wouldn't have any bearing on your case. if youre caught going 20 over, whether you say 'no' isn't going to help you or not. Just say 'no' because that wont hurt you anymore. you hav eno idea what you're talking about, but you blow air thorough your lips as easily as your asshole.
DavidLovato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, is that why every officer in America asks the exact same question the exact same way? Theyโre just legitimately curious?
Police are trained to make you admit guilt, almost always through some kind of verbal tomfoolery. Another common one is saying they have you on camera or have a witness when they donโt. They want you to change your story or admit guilt and make their job easier.
dontFart_InSpaceSuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
you are a child guessing at things about which you know nothing. Officers asking 'the same question' comes down to their training. if someone is guilty, why shouldn't you want the cops to figure that out? you seem like youre railing against legit investigation techniques. For example, you don't have to worry about 'your story changing' IF YOU'RE TELLING THE FUCKING TRUTH. Funny how that works, huh?
fungiinmygarden ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โDid ya like that, Dave? Because I DID know I couldnโt do that! Ah hah hah hahโ
Jews_up_hoes_down ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pssh, whatevs bruh.
Yavin4Reddit ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:08:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I accept the question."
SmeggySmurf ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:57:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Only 65? I was trying for 88
Thebigbeerski ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:08:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Where we're going, we don't need roads.
Edit- First ever silver, thank you kind stranger!
Wookiepuke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre gonna need 1.21 jigga watts
BRO-jsimpson ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Poll1t0 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:01:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"No."
Killtrend ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:51:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โNo? You donโt know how fast you were going? Itโs reckless driving to not know how fast you were going in your automobile.โ
Da_G8keepah ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:09:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is why you respond with a question of your own. If you say "yes," then you've just admitted to breaking the law. If you say "no," then you weren't paying attention while driving, which is against the law.
MrCheapskate_toyou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:46:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Politely refuse to answer.
surelynotcool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:16:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What question could you ask here?
RiddlingVenus0 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:23:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โWant to see my tits?โ
_nicely ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You win the internet for today.
Killtrend ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:48:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
โIโd like you to tell me so if I can see if my dash cam is calibrated.โ
Seriously. An officer was gonna give me a ticket for โfailure to passโ in the fast lane when really heโd been following me a while and just wanted to tell me my crown vic looks like a cop car. Whatever. Anyway, told him I was passing, had a dash cam with audio and Iโd just like whatever ticket he was going to give me so I can bring it to court with my SD card. He came back to my car saying โI decided to not give you a ticket this time. But! (Here it is) this car looks a lot like a cop car. You didnโt add any of this back did you?โ
โThis car is legal, officer. Please cite me or tell me whatโs illegal and Iโll have it removed.โ
โI just canโt believe... blah blah.โ
Anyway, no ticket.
condor_gyros ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:17:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How are you, officer?
tateland_mundane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
well, how fast do YOU think I was going?
mAdm-OctUh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What are YOU doing in Canada, man?!
Remmock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โDo you know why I pulled you over?โ โCould you tell me, officer?โ (Polite tone)
โDid you realize that you were (insert crime here)?โ โWas I?โ (Surprised tone)
Da_G8keepah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you can manage to speak first, open with something like "what seems to be the problem, officer?" If you're responding to their open-ended question, you can say "could you tell me?"
MostEpicRedditor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:15:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What seems to be the officer, problem?
Evilsj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think there's an exact law against that. It's too vague.
serious_sarcasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
15+ over the limit is reckless driving in most states anyways.
Poll1t0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I was watching the road."
cortanakya ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:51:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a crime to be forgetful. Just answer "I keep a very close eye on my speed but I couldn't tell you exactly how fast I was going when you saw me because I was paying attention to the road rather than looking out for police officers". Make it less standoffish than that, though. Maybe "as far as I know I was sticking to the speed limit... I'm hoping you're not here to disagree with that because I'm not a big fan of fines".
Killtrend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cops donโt ask questions they donโt want answers to. They want you to incriminate or give a reason to dig further. They donโt pull over innocent people for fun.
MrKittySavesTheWorld ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck convincing anyone on Reddit that.
These hateful, ignorant bastards would still say "ACAB, good riddance pig" even if an officer threw themselves in front of a bullet to save their child and died.
MegatonMessiah ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I thought the speed limit was 60 officer. I thought I was only going 5 over, I apologize."
That way you're not pretending like you didn't do anything, but you make it seem much more innocent and it's a believable lie. Defuses and mentally lowers the severity of your infraction.
MeTheFlunkie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:20:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You just admitted to speeding and will now get a ticket.
MegatonMessiah ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:25:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, ironically enough, it worked for me before in a situation where I actually thought I was doing 5 over (doing 50, 45 had turned into a 30 without me realizing it), for similar reasons cops won't pull you over if you're actually doing 5 over.
It's not a guaranteed way to get out of one, but it makes more sense than blatantly saying you intended to drive 20 over or acting completely unaware of what you were doing.
Long story short, you can do little things to help you when you get pulled over, but at the end of the day there's a chance you'll get a ticket.
Usually it depends on your demeanor and the cops' mood.
MeTheFlunkie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
OnyDeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The same thing happened to me and I think your right. No answer will be good (especially to Reddit) but this is the most reasonable. You were aware of your own speed. It's not as 'reckless driving' as knowing the speed limit and not your own. "So you admit it" umm yeah, the opposite is to tell a cop in their face that you weren't speeding? Good luck!
RiddlingVenus0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You still admitted to speeding even with your made up speed limit. How is this any better?
bigtimesauce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:44:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You execute a high speed, hundred and eighty degree turn
-oOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:48:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
AM I BEING DETAINED?!?!
diamondmx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Officer, I was not driving, I was TRAVELING.
exoalo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:08:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Speeding tickets are just tolls for rich people
PM_ME_CUTE_SMILES_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:08:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, tickets need to be adjusted on income or they can both be ignored by richer people and be way too impactful for others which both have dramatic consequences.
Countries such as switzerland are already doing this. There is the occasional news article about a well-deserved 5 figures speeding ticket.
Polygarch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/showerthoughts
BitInvader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm have never paid a toll
AmishCyb0rg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:36:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I was personally travelling, not commercially driving and even though virtually everyone doesn't know/use that legal terminology, that's UCC law and I'm not in your jurisdiction for this matter. So, am I under arrest for an actual crime, do you need my assistance with something, or are you illegally harassing me?"
Gilthoniel_Elbereth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:47:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โAm I being detained!?โ
excelwithexcel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:07:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's a great way to get arrested for resisting arrest.
I hope you can afford a lawyer.
AmishCyb0rg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Of course this will go to and be solved in court, but not with a lawyer...I'm not a ward of the court.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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AmishCyb0rg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No. Uniform Commercial Code (law). It helps a lot to know your rights.
Jews_up_hoes_down ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is this some sovereign citizen shit?
AmishCyb0rg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's not an oxymoron like the words sovereign and citizen being put together.
Jews_up_hoes_down ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
All the references I've found to individuals applying UCC to their daily lives have referenced sovereign citizen shit. Do you have some references that separate out the two?
AmishCyb0rg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't apply to U.S. citizens since that status is an agreement to live inside of a fictitious jurisdiction. Research United States Corporation vs United States of America.
thwinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Objection: leading the witness
MrCheapskate_toyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then they follow it with "Did you know you were going that fast?"
zman9119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know how fast YOU were going to catch up to me, because I'm sure you are the one endangering lives now.
_Abefroman_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"is that so?"
Gotta answer questions with questions.
caffeine-junkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Possible answers:
"Well, that's just your opinion. Officer. Sir/Ma'am'"
"Depends, is that the speed you're saying I was doing?"
"It wouldn't be inaccurate to assume that I couldn't exactly not say that it is or isn't almost partially incorrect about what speed I was going"
fourpuns ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:59:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How did you know I fucked your mom in that old Chevy?
skaliton ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:34:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
there is a double edged sword here. some officers really appreciate honesty and will give you a warning...look if you were going 85 in a 60 zone and they had a radar set up chances are it is properly calibrated and went through the testing but your best chance of not getting a ticket is the officer's discretion
daftvalkyrie ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:30:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This. Ran a stop sign (really... Rolling stop, no complete stop, at an intersection two blocks from my house that there's no traffic at 99% of the time) and when pulled over I was upfront about it. At court was given the minimum fine because judge clearly read that and approved of the honesty.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:15:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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daftvalkyrie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:24:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure I didn't miss work.
badnewsgoonies ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:23:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
As opposed to a much larger fine and losing points? Boy you sure tried to show him lmao
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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Zreaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They could have dropped it to something random that wasn't a moving violation. That's extremely common.
badnewsgoonies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:29:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So you are assuming this person lives in one of those states for sure and he also missed work for sure interesting? And also because of those things then nobody should do what he did... again you really are going against this for no reason
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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iamkeerock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
User name checks out
Cummyummy68 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hang yourself.
daftvalkyrie ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Glad somebody gets it.
serious_sarcasm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:36:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
lol
dontFart_InSpaceSuit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:12:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
'chances are' doesn't matter. it's about proving what you can in court. you're betting on them not caring enough about your particular ticket with this defence, and, accordingly, it varies.
ScumEater ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:47:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got pulled over recently, going "almost 40" in a 25mph zone, was also in a 20mph "when children are present" (which there weren't). The cop let me off with a warning and said, "I appreciate your honesty". I still am not sure exactly why he said that since I only admitted I didn't know how fast I was going and didn't say much else. But I'll take the warning over a ticket.
LPT: Occasionally look at your speedometer. It's super easy to go over the speed limit if you're not paying close attention.
surge_of_vanilla ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:57:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โWell hopefully itโs because you had probable causeโ
xmindallas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:25:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think "reasonable suspicion" is the term you're looking for. If they have probable cause, they can legally conduct a search too.
Marquetan ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:04:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, the old admission of guilt. Works 60% of the time, every time.
GueroPerdido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
the other 40% of the time the person is on trial for murder.
2wheeloffroad ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:55:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The 3 kilos of coke hidden in my trunk?
XxxKurtzsxxx ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:45:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Valuable info when interacting with police.
PicklesAreTheDevil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is cool and helpful, but be sure to check state and local laws. In some places, you can refuse a breathalyzer, but the cops can then take you in to get a blood sample without your consent. This includes DUI checkpoints. It shouldn't be legal, but so far, it hasn't been challenged and overturned in court, as far as I'm aware.
gingasaurusrexx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One time I was driving a friend home and was on my phone doing something (I think it was for her, I normally don't fuck with my phone when I'm driving) and I had a vape in my other hand (another thing I don't typically do, lol) when lights went on behind me. I kinda laughed at my own stupidity, already saying "yeah, you got me" as I pulled over. He asked if I knew why he stopped me. I had a few ideas, but played dumb. Tail light was out. Got a warning. Off on my merry way.
Don't volunteer info, kids.
Muleshoe450 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:19:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But If youโre speeding and it was obvious, itโs much better to tell them that you were speeding because then they know you were in the wrong. If you brush it off and act like it was no big deal then they might see you as a prick who speeds mindlessly
AbominableAbsol ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:32:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or someone incompetent who can't monitor their speedometer, neither situation works in your favor. I've been pulled for reckless driving, going way over the limit, and it would've looked worse for me to not say that I at least knew what I was doing.
skylarmt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:34:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The cop doesn't set the ticket price, so unless you're trying for a warning it doesn't really matter.
"You tell me, officer, or what are my taxes even for?"
DoctorWaluigiTime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Because being a smarmy git to them will surely go over well.
Muleshoe450 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One time a said I had to go poop really bad and I was speeding home because it was unbearable and he let me off Scott free down the road to my house. I wasnโt lying though, I actually had to and thatโs why I was speeding
Isord ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:49:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Really just depends on the cop so as long as you aren't a prick I think it's just a dice roll anyways.
Twal55 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:26:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do police still ask people that very often? Seems a tad dated (like 5-10 years) tbh, at least where I live it is more 'I am Officer Lastname, I pulled you over because..."
Raithix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, the "do you know why" stop introduction is quite out of date. The new one (which cops in my city use too) is better for both parties, since the citizen gets to actually know why they got stopped, and the cop gets to say why they stopped them on body camera, so there's less confusion later in court.
gingasaurusrexx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've been pulled over twice in the last year and both times got the "do you know why" line.
Raithix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then those cops work for a department that's behind the times.
Edit: Or, more likely, the cops themselves are behind the 8-ball.
finest_bear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got pulled over last week by a statey, he asked me if I knew why as well.
Finnignatius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU"
ottacon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Its not just that. I remember watching something on youtube a few years ago about someone who was having a friendly conversation with a police officer about going fishing earlier in the day...
Long story short the guy unknowingly transported a fish across state lines that was prohibited for some reason (that escapes me right now). He got thousands of dollars in fines.
Literally never talk to the police unless required to do so, and then only give as much information as required. Be polite, say hi, whatever. But never start chatting up a police officer. They are not there to help you.
peekay427 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I answered once with saying I assumed they didnโt see the kids in my back seat and I must have looked like I was abusing the carpool lane. He didnโt like me assuming it was him making the mistake...
ItWorkedLastTime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I heard you can also say "Is my tail-light broken?"
ComfyBrah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"......,because I'm black?"
"....now that you mention it..step out of the vehicule...NOW!"
Alpha_pro2019 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't mean lie, just know you don't have to say stuff.
QueefofPolice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:07:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't volunteer shit to cops. It ain't my job to incriminate myself, bruh. How about you tell me why you pulled me over so I can deny it?
mrcurtiswilson77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how long you were following me.
chewtality ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"'Cause I'm young and I'm black and my hat's real low? Do I look like a ming reader sir? I don't know"
2ndwaveobserver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always love when they take your license and run it to see your record, they ask โhave you ever been arrested/ in trouble before?โ Which they already know the answer to. If you have been in trouble but say no, youโre instantly a liar and you will almost be guaranteed to get asked to step out and theyโre going to search you like theyโre looking for the holy grail. On the other hand, if you say yes, next they ask you what it was for. Hereโs your chance to tell the truth but it doesnโt matter. Youโre a liar now. If you donโt tell them, theyโre going to weasel their way into stripping you of your rights.
โYou mind if I search?โ
โYes I do mind actuallyโ
โWell if you donโt let me search Iโm going to call in a K-9 unit and weโre going to find whatever it is youโre hidingโ
(which is illegal if they donโt have actual probable cause or if they pulled you over for something completely unrelated and are taking longer than it takes to write the initial ticket)
If he is a cop that already travels with a dog then he can probably do a little run around on the outside but thatโs it. There was an actual Supreme Court case, (US v Rodriguez I believe) that states if a cop pulls you over for speeding, for example, and there arenโt any illegal substances in the open that can be seen from the window, and you havenโt obviously been using drugs or under the influence, itโs against the 4th amendment barring unreasonable search and seizures for them to make you wait for a k9 officer to show up. The judge ruled that without probable cause, you canโt extend a traffic stop longer than it takes to write the ticket. Never consent to searches and always know your rights. Donโt be one of those douches that purposefully looks for reasons to flex their rights on cops but you also donโt have to bow down to them. Itโs way easier to just be cool but if a cop tries to search you for no damn reason, say no.
phishtrader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Terrible Answer: "Is it the dead hooker stuffed with heroin in my trunk?"
Cocky Answer: "I can't read minds, so just go ahead and tell me. The suspense is killing me, Officer Geller."
Safe Answer: "I don't know, sir."
showmeassandtitties ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cause I'm young and I'm black and my hat's real low.
Do I look like a mind reader, sir? I don't know.
XplodiaDustybread ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Every now and then Iโll cringe at the time I was stopped and the cop asked if I knew what he stopped me for. When I said Idk he said, โcmon, just be real with meโ. I had a broken tail light and thought โhey, Iโll be honest and maybe heโll be nice and let me goโ. Turns out I had run a red (I didnโt stop at a yellow) and I told him about the tail light. He tells me I ran a red or whatever and he goes back to his car. He comes back with two tickets - one for a red light and one for the broken tail light. I felt so fucking stupid and even when as I was telling him, I was screaming at myself โstfuโ in my head. This happened 4 years ago and I still think about how stupid I was but I learned a huge lesson. Donโt be like me people, never admit to anything just cause you think itโll get you some donut points with the police.
thetalltyler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
OK.... Iโll talk! In 3rdย grade, I cheated on my history exam. In 4thย grade, I stole my uncle Maxโs toupee and I glued it on my face when I was Moses in my Hebrew School play. 5thย grade, I knocked my sister Edie down the stairs and I blamed it on the dogโฆ When my mom sent me to the summer camp for fat kids and then they served lunch I got nuts and I pigged out and they kicked me out. But the worst thing I ever done โ I mixed a pot of fake puke at home and then I went to thisย movie theater, hid the puke in my jacket, climbed up to the balcony and then, t-t-then, I made a noise like this: hua-hua-hua-huaaaaaaa โ and then I dumped it over the side, all over the people in the audience. And then, this was horrible, all the people started getting sick and throwing up all over each other. I never felt so bad in my entire life.
JoyousCacophony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:01 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, Chunk
BreadyStinellis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:50 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is by far my favorite response out of more than 100. Excellent work.
LivingstoneInAfrica ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs why they say โanything you say can and will be used against you.โ You will not be given brownie points for offering up information.
schtiktoit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've never asked anyone that and my department it's very against that kind of idiotic question. Then again they're also fine with the fact that most of us rarely write citations and some of us may only write one or two a year, pretty much just for someone driving recklessly. Generating funds is not our job.
NextUpGabriel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wherever you work, I wanna move there.
BreadyStinellis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You have to know that's fairly rare.
schtiktoit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've moved and traveled a lot and seen the wide range that exists. And with my work I've had the opportunity to get to know officers from around the country. Some great, some awful. It takes a department being very careful about the kind of dynamic they encourage and the people they hire. I lucked out with this agency, and I see that more and more as I talk with coworkers about the corruption they've seen in other agencies, some to the extent that they were in fear of being framed by leadership.
The common factor is usually the leadership. You can have amazing people coming in but if the good ones are in constant fear they get burnt out and transfer or find another line of work. The ones working the street need to feel like they're doing something good. They need to know that as long as they're working hard and doing things right their leadership will back them, if they're wrong they'll be corrected, and if they're corrupt they'll be rooted out and indicted. That's the dynamic we have.
But not every agency works like that.
Arcology_Designs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
there is no reason a cop would ask you that question other than incompetence. They are explicitly trained not to ask this question.
Source: did the job right Edit: grammar
speedytrigger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If Iโm speeding, and a cop pulls me over and asks โdo you know how fast you were goingโ what do you say? Say you didnโt know?
junkeee999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And if you are in an accident, donโt try to explain it like โI just looked at the dashboard for a secondโ or something similar. You just admitted to distracted driving. Tell the truth about the basic bare facts of the accident, but donโt offer ANY information about what you were doing at the time other than driving and it just happened.
tb2186 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โOfficer do you want the full list or just a summary?โ
Warlordnipple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always prefer to open with "what is the problem officer?"
rojan-rando ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes itโs better to just fess up if itโs not a big deal, to be accountable for your actions. Got pulled over for making an illegal u-turn and the cop said he appreciated my honesty, that I have no clue how many times a day he gets lied to, and let me go witg a warning.
Just_Some_Man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I learned at 17 that asking โwas I speedingโ will get โadmitted to speedingโ on your ticket. A fantastic lesson to learn young.
ILIKESPORTSGUY5555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Littering and
ButtWieghtThiersMoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When I was about 16, pulled over in the back of a rich kids car, Officer asked rich kid/driver "Why are your eyes red?"
rich kid: "I did some bong hits earlier"
Instantly rich kid is pulled from the car and handcuffed.
I knew my rights, they got violated anyway, and I was searched without warrant.
I'd already had LE point a gun at me at least twice, and I've never been violent.
It's even worse today, I'd be in fucking Gitmo. Some kids made dry ice bombs here and the sheriff basically called them terrorists.
MyNameThru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly true, though one time I was doing 68 in a 55 and the cop asked me that question, and I knew I was probably fucked anyway so I said it's probably because I was doing 68 in a 55. Dude was so surprised by my candor that he gave me a warning. Not that I would advise this approach, but it did work that one time.
DoctorWaluigiTime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most don't. Of course it happens but most cops will tell you it's a dumb thing for them to ask in the first place these days.
UnlivedPhalanx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One time I said that if he didn't know he shouldn't have stopped me. He did not find it funny.
EBHighlander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how long youโve been following me.
xrayjockey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You thought I had doughnuts in the car? Got a ticket for this one, but worth it.
Krogg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same goes for "Do you know how fast you were going?"
That went from a speeding ticket to an inattentive driving ticket with "No."
tilman2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was concentrating on the developing road conditions in front of me and they take precedence over staring at my speedometer, officer
MrsSgtTeddyBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Was I speeding? Is always my response. Because I probably was.
somedood567 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โRevenue?โ
atleastIwasnt36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I saw in another thread cops are taught not to ask this anymore, it's bad practice.
CommunistNo2735 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Objection, call for speculation"
lurkinggoatraptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well honestly sir I thought you were after someone else and was getting out of your way
onkel_axel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"You better tell me o I'll go" Don't even say no.
intensely_human ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The cocaine? The illegal mods on my engine? The pedestrian I ran over?? How long have you been following me??
shewy92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had a cop ask me why he pulled me over. That's just something Hollywood likes to do. They usually just tell you straight up or say something like "Did you know your tail light is out/I pulled you over because your tail light is out" (I forget which one I was told) or "You were going a little fast there" when they don't use radar and just matches your speed behind you.
BreadyStinellis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've been pulled over twice and was asked that both times.
Nhansen94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, the reason for that question is that they are looking for an admission of guilt. That way, if you admit you were doing something wrong, it will be more difficult for you to fight a ticket in court.
BigBubsBoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly.
renaissance_weirdo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure, but it's definitely not for the cocaine in the trunk. You'd have no way of knowing about that!
peon2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Well if you don't know either officer I think you're wasting both of our time!"
laughs in handcuffs
Balmung6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Do you know what I stopped you for?"
"Yes I do.....but you gotta figure that out all by yourself!"
igotigotigotigot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know about that. When Iโve attempted that, I always get a ticket. When I admit what I have done (usually speeding 10-15 over) I always get a warning.
wharlie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Officer "Do you know fast you were going?" Reply "You're the one with the radar, you tell me"
Officer "Have you had anything to drink" Reply "You're the one with the breathalyzer, you tell me"
Fuck_You_Downvote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am not here to discuss my day with you officer.
acid_etched ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"yes but I sure ain't gonna tell you"
10000_Spoons_Irony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"AM I BEING DETAINED?!" -Redditors' advice about talking to cops
Bitchtonne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They ask,at minimum, to legitimize quotas? Harassment, because it was a pretty girl? Generally a bad day and looking for someone to take it out on? Incompetence? Main hope, the poor bastard they stopped is too dumb to think? Hiring practices and the union have too low of standards for education? Police should have to have personally paid liability insurance to carry a deadly weapon. In sum, the threshold to be a police and carry a weapon should be on par with passing the state bar exam. Otherwise, carry a whistle.
Bitchtonne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They ask,at minimum, to legitimize quotas? Harassment, because it was a pretty girl? Generally a bad day and looking for someone to take it out on? Incompetence? Main hope, the poor bastard they stopped is too dumb to think? Hiring practices and the union have too low of standards for education? Police should have to have personally paid liability insurance to carry a deadly weapon. In sum, the threshold to be a police and carry a weapon should be on par with passing the state bar exam. Otherwise, carry a whistle.
kolikaal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What if you reply "yes" and nothing else?
FishFireTritonBoyYT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"depends on how long youve been following me"
log-normal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โDepends how long youโve been following me!โ
uniquepassword ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I heard, "Son, do you know why I'm stopping you for?" "Cause I'm young and I'm black and my hat's real low" Do I look like a mind reader, sir? I don't know Am I under arrest or should I guess some more? "Well you was doing fifty-five in a fifty-four" "License and registration and step out of the car" "Are you carrying a weapon on you, I know a lot of you are" I ain't stepping out of shit, all my papers legit
Reddit-JustSkimmedIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I know I was speeding, officer, but the body is going to start stinking if I donโt get it to the wood chipper soon. Oh, and sorry I didnโt signal that turn back there.
adriatic_sea75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Answer this question with a question: "Why did you stop me?" Don't offer up any ideas about why they stopped you; they're likely writing your response down and can use it against you.
TheCommonFear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I see this typed online a lot, but its legitimately not really a thing. In most academies nowadays, they instruct differently.
In my most recent refresher, they recommend offering the opportunity to specifically excuse the action instead of asking what the action was.
For example, Hello I'm Officer TheCommonFear with the Common Police Department. How are we today? Great, the reason I stopped you is for the stopsign back there at x/y. Is there a reason you didnt come to a complete stop?
Cops have to witness infractions. If I see one, I dont care much for your testimony unless you have a legitimate reason for getting somewhere such as a dying person in the backseat. Someone stating they committed an infraction doesnt do anything for me.
Sorry for possible formatting, on mobile. Cheers.
DonutOlympian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually taught not to ask that. I donโt think modern cops ask that as much as itโs portrayed in TV.
WearyCub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got flat-out busted running a stop sign once leaving for work at 5am in the morning. Saw the cop car and before they even put on the sirens I started to pull over.
When they asked me why they stopped me I said because I ran the stop sign. Asked me a few other questions including whether the address on my licence was correct (it wasnโt) and said theyโd be right back.
In the end I got a $160 fine for having incorrect information on the licence and they said they wonโt book me for running the stop sign (>$300 fine and lose of 3 demerit points).
In the occasion where youโve been flat out busted sometimes honesty is the best thing.
Sirsog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"because i was kickin ass behind the wheel, officer."
TheFuzz201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thats not true. It's your chance to be honest with me. I'm asking you because I already know what you did. You lie = ticket Honesty = warning
tilman2015 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:51:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Although, what you know and what you can prove to the required standard in court are two completely different things.
Someone voluntarily incriminating themselves makes things much easier on that front! ;)
randacts13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Traffic stops are different. The police have discretion. Anything more serious, and you shut the fuck up.
omegacrunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The answer, " you got tired of shooting black people?"
SpecOpsAlpha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What you say can be used against you but never FOR you (Mrs is practicing attorney).
Donโt even put your window down except for a sliver . Turn on interior lights and slide out paperwork. Tell the cop first what you are doing.
uniptf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"You mean you don't even know why you stopped me?!?! Then I must be free to go."
WittyWest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cops should stop ending sentences with prepositions
JoeWaffleUno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always say no
Hites_05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. It's a simple yes or no questions, so just answer "Yes." and leave it at that. Don't break eye contact either.
mikeofarabia17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest I had a problem with speeding and over the course of about a year I was pulled over about 4 different times for driving 10-20mph above the limit. Each time I acknowledged that I was speeding but didnโt know exactly how fast I was going. The officer would tell me what they clocked me at and I would say that it sounds right. I was always polite and compliant and I never received a ticket.
Contributing factors are that I have a completely clean record, wasnโt breaking any other laws, and that Iโm a man in my 30s who looks presentable.
When I was a teen in similar situations but with people violating other minor laws in addition to traffic laws, I was treated much worse including having a gun to my back and being thrown against the police car.
PurpleSunCraze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โCanโt be too bad, your weapon is still holstered.โ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hopefully not for the two dead hookers in my trunk.
skippy1110 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Well it depends on how long you were following me, officer"
UglyBgsOfMstlyWtr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The dead body in the trunk?
Snowman78af ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I told the truth and still didnt get a warning or a ticket. "You know why I pulled you over?" Yup. Doing 81 in a 65 when I whizzed past you or atleast what my speedometer said. He ran my plates and my license. We talked a little and then he told me to be careful there was two more cops ahead. This happened in Maryland on Kent Island before I made it to the bay bridge.
I dont remember if it was 65 or 55 mph.
ajmcwhirk ยท 737 points ยท Posted at 00:53:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Last time I was pulled over:
Cop: โdo you know how fast you weโre going?โ
Me: โyesโ
Cop: โdo you know what the speed limit is?โ
Me: โyesโ
Cop: โwhere are you going?โ
Me: โworkโ
C: โwhere do you work?โ
Me: insert city
C: โAt what company?โ
Me: insert obscure company initials
C: โwhat do you do there?โ
Me: insert very specific job title
C: โ...good day sir.โ
PhilipWaterford ยท 460 points ยท Posted at 01:09:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In Ireland that would nearly guarantee you a problem. I'm not saying you should volunteer anything silly but if they don't know what you wore to your grandfather's funeral and your cat's name in the first three minutes you must obviously be hiding something.
MasonInk ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 07:24:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
But the legal system in Ireland is far simpler. Everything falls into one of three categories:
1) That's grand
2) Careful now
3) Right, you're taking the piss.
Edit: here's a link to Dara on YouTube explaining it far better than I
MongArmOfTheLaw ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 11:00:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Grew up in Ireland.
10/10 accuracy, can confirm.
It's all fine till you get to stage 3, at which point things get fairly robust.
MasonInk ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 11:01:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can't take credit, it's part of a Dara O'Briain routine.
scificionado ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:23:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dara O'Briain, one of my favorite comedians. I'm in the USA so I have to look for Mock the Week on YouTube.
Gravewarden92 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:20:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I wish someone would tell me "that's grand" It sounds nice, i could be wrong but it sounds nice.
MasonInk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It means "everything's ok" or "great"
AMasonJar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:11:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It sounded kinda like what "bless your heart" means in southern speak.
TrashCanBaseballPro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You got those peeky blinders$
squigs ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 08:39:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Had a crash in Ireland (fairly minor - no injuries). Other driver's boyfriend, and both Garda officers extremely friendly and wanted to know where I was from, where I'd been on holiday, and general chat. I think if it was a more serious accident I would have ended up as godfather to one of their kids.
Made it a surprisingly positive experience 10/10. Would crash again.
PhilipWaterford ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 09:17:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You just haven't seen all the whiplash claims against you yet, including the guarda whose hand you shook a bit too vigorously and the eyewitness who turned her head too quickly. Pretty sure I got injured there too just reading this. Sorry but it's the only way we can afford the rent.
several_bees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:22 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a car crash with my grandma in Ireland and it turned out the driver of the other car was her cousin near their house so we stopped by for some cake. Best car crash Iโve ever been in.
SamSkelly ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:10:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tbf if the guard where pulling me over I'd be a lot less worried than if some American cop was. I'd also be extremely surprised to actually see a Guarda doing their job too
mashtato ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:30:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do the Gardaรญ even carry guns?
tavitavarus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:24:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No. Only detectives and specialist Armed Response Units carry guns.
LordHussyPants ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:59:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but this is only an issue if a garda actually sees you. my friend and i drove across ireland doing 140 the whole way, while being passed by grannies doing 150 and soccer mums doing 160. not a single garda to be found, idk what they do
Faldricus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:45:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My guess: they watch everyone via high-powered cam sats - bending time and space right before any potential accidents occur - so everyone believes they're safe and can still get to their destinations as fast as humanly possible.
But that's just a preliminary assumption. Don't read into it too much. Probably.
UnauthorizedFart ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 01:32:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just pour them a pint of Guinness and youโll be on your way
Put_It_All_On_Blck ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:04:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If the officer isnt pouring them a pint, they better call for backup.
UnauthorizedFart ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:05:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Backup is called โchaserโ over there
Highman399 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:34:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Since you said Ireland I read it in a irish accent and it was kinda difficult to read. Im sorry.
IrishMilo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:21:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I would volunteer information to a Garda over a US Cop any day.
MrCheapskate_toyou ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:49:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have the right to remain silent in Ireland? In the US, for now, we have the right against self incrimination.
FrankyZola ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:09:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Technically we do but remaining silent can be used against you in court under certain circumstances.
Enearde ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:05:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The whole of Ireland is like the smallest US hillbilly town. Everyone knows each other and if they don't know you personally they probably know your uncle twice removed and drink with your boss once in a while.
TrashCanBaseballPro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just tell the cops I am a Billionaire. If they ask for my taxes. I tell the cop to stop being such a crooked Hillary.
The cops knows he is out match by my wit and his admiration of my vast wealth.
Murderino86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And for godโs sake be relaxed and friendly but donโt over do it. Youโre chill, theyโre chill. Apologise immediately. Theyโll usually tell you to cop yourself on if itโs a reasonable mistake and leave it at that to be fair.
taytayssmaysmay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So if you follow it up with a mock accent it'll probably go worse.
pknk6116 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:09:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ohh ta ti ta ta I'm a leprechaun (heavy fake accent) <-- doesn't go over well with Irish cops
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 09:31:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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PhilipWaterford ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:37:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Huh? Quite the opposite, most of them are genuine and we don't have to spend much on sunscreen.
PhinsFan17 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:31:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds of an exchange in The West Wing.
Babish: Do you know what time it is?
CJ: Itโs [insert time of day].
Babish: Okay, Iโm gonna need you to stop doing that. CJ: Doing what?
Babish: Answering more than youโre asked. Now. Do you know what time it is?
CJ: Yes.
Eligiu ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 01:02:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try, FBI.
paul-arized ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:10:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That was the obscure company's initials.
lfod13 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 01:25:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When a cop pulls you over, what do you say? "Why did you pull me over?" When the cop asks questions, what do you say? "I'm not discussing my day." When the cop continues to ask questions or press, what do you say? "Am I being detained or am I free to go?" When the cop detains you, what do you say? "I invoke the Fifth Amendment." And, then, what do you do? Say it loud for the people in the back...
smegmaroni ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 01:48:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Seems kind of dickish. You gotta feel out the situation, read the officer's demeanor. I don't think that would be the optimal dialogue path every time.
captainAwesomePants ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:05:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think one of the things that gets overlooked in these discussions s lot is that all too frequently taking advantage of your rights is a privilege of the well-to-do. A cop can pretty easily tie you up for hours if they suspect you of something, and of you're on your way to work that's gonna cost you at best a few meals and at worst your job. Good job avoiding the illegal search of your car, though.
DemascusSeal ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:21:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are we able to sue the state/city for that missed income and/or unemployment issues?
Notmybday ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:46:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No
DemascusSeal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:58:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Revolt!
TerraOrdinem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
AreYouActuallyFoReal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You definitely can, especially if it happens to be a wrongful arrest and/or they happen to overstep and violate rights. The odds of winning depend on your state/city and how clear-cut the case is though.
JmamAnamamamal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:56:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention the people mostly impacted by this type of behavior are the least able to defend themselves legally
loanshark69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well you can sue for deprivation of rights under color of law. Ie. right to travel or 4th amendment. But good luck getting anywhere with that unless they did something like drag you out of your car. Cops and judges are unlikely to convict their buddies.
renaissance_weirdo ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:43:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a white guy, driving a lifted truck, in rural Missouri, and you pulled that on a cop, you'd get a hard time.
Instead, if you drawled out, "Oh dang sir, did I have a lead foot back there? I didn't even realize I was goin' to fast." And he'd probably say, "well yeah, you were doin a good 15 or 16 over the limit. Probably need to get your speedo adjusted for these new mud tires you got here" and then you'd say, "You're right, my cousin helped me put the lift kit on and he warned me about that. I'll get it taken care of this weekend" And then he'd probably say, "yeah, you do that, now tell your momma I said to save me a slice of her pumpkin pie at the next baptist/methodist flag football game. It always goes too fast for me to get a piece".
And then you'd complain about Mizzou's football team for a while and be on your way.
shaxxmedaddy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:55:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
My buddy got pulled over running 75 in a 45 with 2 AR-15โs (one of which is unregistered) in the backseat and the state trooper told him to be more careful during running season cause he would hate to see such a nice truck get messed up by a deer. No ticket, no asking to look closer at the rifle cases he noticed in the backseat where he wouldโve found one with no serial number or markings, just asked if the rifles were legal and left that comment
Edit: this was a seriously corrupt cop, I donโt think all situations are this extreme but this was just a really bad one. Iโm also not anti-gun at all
BajingoWhisperer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:04:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rifles aren't required to be registered in most states. And there's a very good chance his gun with no numbers was home built which is also perfectly legal in most states.
shaxxmedaddy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:39:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I know itโs home built because I drilled the lower out for him but I was under the impression it wouldโve been an issue because of him crossing the md/de state line with the rifle, turns out I am not as up on maryland laws as I thought and thatโs one of the states where ghost guns are legal, at least for now. I still think the traffic stop shouldโve been handled better but thanks for prompting me to do some extra research, I learned something new today lol
BajingoWhisperer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Crossing the line should be fine but you drilling for him is likely a issue
Scorps ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:03:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is not a good plan for say a speeding ticket or minor traffic infraction where he obviously pulled you over for that reason, but there is a lot of bullshit reasons they can say to pull you over if they want to check if you are drinking etc.
Devilishmikel23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:50:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ever speak to a cop without a lawyer.
RyuNoKami ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:55:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
never be interviewed by a cop without a lawyer. some idiot is gonna take this advice completely literally and not say anything.
just identify yourself and then say i won't say anymore without a lawyer.
Demons0fRazgriz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:50:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even when you're being friendly, you can quickly become the next suspect in a case.
There's almost never a situation where talking to the police openly will end well for you. It's their job to prove you're guilty of something and to protect rich people's stuff. That's it.
DrZelks ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, so if your average Joe Schmoe calls the police on a robbery, they're going to ask for his net worth before coming? Like how does this work in practice?
Lethena_LoL ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:23:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They're going to come to his house, say dang that sucks, we will keep an eye out if anything comes up, and you'll never hear back.
If you are rich or powerful enough to be able to get in contact with someone really high up in the police force then they'll do more because their boss told them to, because his boss told him to, because his boss told him to.
DrZelks ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good one. Thanks for the chuckles. Got any more?
Lethena_LoL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Do you honestly think cops jump into action over a basic robbery for a random person? You think they're going to, what, pull fingerprints? Look for DNA, for a robbery? Lol.
DrZelks ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my God, you're having me in stitches! Bravo, bravo.
Lethena_LoL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No answer to the question?
DrZelks ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:08:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations, you figured it out.
Lethena_LoL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There was nothing to figure out. You asked a question, I replied, your mind 404d and you replied with bad trolling.
DrZelks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad you're so confident in your intellectual prowess.
In case you actually think this, you can go back to the very first comment I made in this thread. If you didn't catch that as trolling, then I don't know what to say.
I don't engage with ACAB tards.
MeatSweatHill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Engaging with boot lickers is way worse than any ACAB.
DrZelks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. Considering that according to your ilk 99% of the population counts as "bootlickers" I won't be losing any sleep.
Go fight the good fight my dude. May I suggest some direct action too?
MeatSweatHill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:18 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah there should be kore pig culling.
DrZelks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:48 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent! You really should go ahead and be the leading example for all those brave fighters against oppression. It would truly make the world a better place. :)
MeatSweatHill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:59 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely (:
Devilishmikel23 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:59:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly.
rincon213 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:03:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you drive?
tafor83 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do, and I won't say a word anymore other than 'Here's my information, sir/ma'am. Thank you.'
That's it. Anything else doesn't matter. If he's going to give me a ticket for whatever for not wanting to talk I was going to get a ticket anyway. It's not worth it to me to open my mouth for the chance of getting off with a warning when it comes with the risk of being screwed.
this_is_my_alt_act ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:17:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Give your name, date of birth, and required items in a traffic stop. Don't talk to the police. Ever.
arose_byanyname ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:58:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This irritates me because they donโt say what to say. The cop says donโt say โI was going 38โ in a 35 because thatโs admitting to speeding even if you were going 50 but do you just sit silent? Seems like a real good way to escalate a situation. AND most of the examples given are criminals incriminating themselves, not a lot of examples of innocent people incriminating themselves except for like 1 hypothetical
this_is_my_alt_act ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I plan on saying, "I've been advised to use my fifth amendment right and not discuss my day with you".
Cops are legally allowed to lie, and cannot speak in your defense in court at any point. There's zero benefit talking to a police officer
MasterSandBoxer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Expecially because they don't even know what the fifth amendment is
DemascusSeal ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They are counting on this thought process, makes you easily susceptible to questioning if you don't see the push.
skylarmt ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:39:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcZoCY7fUXg
gingasaurusrexx ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:10:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can't breathe?
MirrorNexus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:07:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I invoke the Fifth Element!"
thedoucher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just saw this video for the first time today
tireworld ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Somebody follows the Pot Bros at Law..
sexywrexy91 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:13:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a reference? If not, it's a surefire way to definitely get a ticket.
Catrik ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:32:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why do americans always insist on being difficult just because "i have a right to!!"? Do you only hire abusing people as police or what is the deal with this?
PeeingCherub ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:16:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Police do tend to be abusive in the US, yes.
dhighway61 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:44:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The vast majority of police in this country are nice, normal people just doing a job. They don't get national press coverage, though.
Snake-N-Roses ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:31:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs honestly good advice the way legal stuff works here. Iโm not young nor trying to be edgy. Thereโs a difference between confrontational and not offering information. And politely declining information (while coherent- if youโre fucked up on something youโre still going to face it) is the best way to encounter law enforcement- most times they are not there for you. So donโt offer anything that can be used against you. Youโll have a day in court under more controlled circumstances so take advantage.
Dont-be-a-smurf ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:09:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Because people here are hyped on rage media, alongside with a rich history of government distrust.
People consume the very worst stories of police interaction all day on this website because โhundreds of thousands of officers conduct routine police work without any issue whatsoeverโ is never a news story. Most people rarely interact with police and so some horrific story of an officer shooting someone without justification becomes their schema (mental picture) for police.
Generally, if things are serious and youโre sensing youโre being cased as a suspect - you shouldnโt be talking to police without a lawyer.
You also shouldnโt just volunteer information to convict yourself during any investigatory encounter.
But being polite and reasonably cooperative has gotten me off with a warning every time Iโve been pulled over. Three times total.
MasterSandBoxer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I invoke the fifth"
I'm not a lawyer but I am 90% sure that is not what the 5th amendment has anything to do with
The fifth amendment says that you don't have to self incriminate yourself in a criminal court case. Has nothing to do with being pulled over
So what ever this is quoting from is not very trustworthy
this_is_my_alt_act ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:24:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that goes without saying. Here's the Fifth Amendment, emphasis mine:
The bolded line is key. By speaking to the cop, a citizen is forfeiting their right to not be a witness against themself.
CyonHal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:15:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It means you have the right to remain silent and you intend to in order to not self incriminate.
xPurplepatchx ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
yourself
Traveshamockery27 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations, they just hacked your hotmail account
ajmcwhirk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They can have it. Probably 12,000 spam emails by now.
ChuckMauriceFacts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:12:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
C: โCan you describe your job?โ
Me: โyesโ
C: โhow would you describe your job?โ
Me: โcleverlyโ
TTT334 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:38:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always baffles me when I see people be stubborn fucks around police for literally no reason.
Cop: can I please see your drivers licence and insurance
Person: no you canโt, I know my rights blah blah fuck you
How hard is it to just follow simple instructions lol
ajmcwhirk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:12:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ya I wasnโt trying to imply I support being difficult or stubborn. I have a high respect for police. But Iโve also learned you offer the bare minimum information to still be cooperative.
CentiPetra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:51:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Your first answer should have been no though. And you donโt. Your speedometer gives you an estimate, but it is usually at least a few tenths of a mile off. Also, you donโt know how fast you were going at the exact second he clocked you. It could have been 68 mph or you could have eased off the gas for a second and he only clocked you at 66.
Nalukai ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:19:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
here is an update version of how this should have gone per lawyer
Cop: โdo you know how fast you weโre going?โ
Me: โ.....โ
Cop: โdo you know what the speed limit is?โ
Me: โ.....โ
Cop: โwhere are you going?โ
Me: โI'm not discussing my day with you.โ
C: โwhere do you work?โ
Me: "Am I being detained?"
C: โAt what company?โ
Me: "remains silent"
C: โwhat do you do there?โ
Me: "I reserve my right to remain silent."
silvernikki ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 01:21:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations, you're now under arrest for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.
pedantic-asshat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:43:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You can beat the rap but not the ride.
Twal55 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 01:28:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol let him play out his fantasy
Heavy_Drinker ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:36:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Under arrest for resisting arrest?
silvernikki ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 01:36:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol you must not know about American cops
digihippie ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:47:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Before or after they steal all your cash?
Raventhornicorn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:52:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
CRASH took all my paper, man. Left me with nothin' but small change.
Nalukai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:07:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
POLICE in the US can use you credit cards in your wallet they confiscate to un-wantingly donate to their police fund at their discretion ( at ANY amount they see fit). if you get pulled over, throw your wallet in the floorboard, because not only will-they hijack your CC, but they will also take all your money in your wallet and refuse to give it back. when you get bailed out, they will give you a cashiers check or money order to get cashed from the jail- so extra fuck you trying to get your money back trying to cash a jail cashiers check. This is how they make their extra revenue for the city- people are too embarrassed to get their money back because they dont give them cash but a jail check. its a fucking scam
Nalukai ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:11:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
also- NEVER gives these fuckheads your PIN number when they say they need to turn your phone off. you can do that by holding the power button. they use that to unlock your phone and search your photos and text for more incriminating evidence.
they are not allowed by law to force your PIN form you, if you have fingerprint they can fore biometrics from you per supreme court- so use a PIN and know your rights agasint these assholes
tunersr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I swore there was a loop hole in that for phones with thumb print or iPhone face scan since that is not an actual"password" that can/can't be divulge.
Language of the law hasn't caught up with tech.
Nalukai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
it is- they are considered bio-metrics through the supreme court. your PIN number is under illegal search and seizure and 5th for incrimination. anything your body gives is legal, but anything in your mind is illegal for them to try and get, ya dig?>
aquaticlettuce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:47:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs some lawfully evil genius shit
RedsAnatomy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:04:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not, but you'll probably get a ticket.
TopangaTohToh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:29:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My brother got sucker punched downtown once because he told a guy to let go of his girlfriend who he was holding by the neck. Just said "Hey, dude let up" as he walked by. Cops came. Brother was in handcuffs. Got arrested and held over night because he swore at the cop. The guy who sucker punched him walked. My brother asked why he was in handcuffs when he obviously had a "fucking shiner" and the other guy is fine. Boom. Disorderly conduct. Absolute bullshit.
silvernikki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit that's fucked up
TopangaTohToh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:05 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my brother went to his court date with a black eye. It was so dumb. My brother is a massive dude. If he had hit the other guy at all, it would have been obvious. My brother has been in trouble for fighting before and really had no desire to go to prison so he didn't touch the guy. I avoid that city like the plague now. I don't trust the police down there and the whole downtown drinking scene is a fuckshow.
sexywrexy91 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:16:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
More likely they'll just ticket you into the ground. A speeding ticket is now speeding, unsafe lane change, tire debt, failure to signal, and whatever they can find.
notapunk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You also have about a 50/50 chance of getting your ass beat at this point, probably higher if you're not white. Your car and anything else on your person is getting confiscated and may not be returned, and if it is definitely not in the same condition.
Rankstarr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
and if youre lucky enough to live in the US; shot in the head twice before being tased.
Scorps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's not illegal to not answer questions
Koufle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, and it's also not illegal for cops to hand out fines for illegal stuff, and they might even have a "probable cause" for other stuff "because of your behavior."
The best thing you can do is act like a normal, reasonable person, answering reasonable questions in a reasonable tone.
skylarmt ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:44:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What is disorderly about not talking to the cops? What is resistive about not talking to the cops? Nothing, that's what. There's this thing called rights that you have, and they include the right to remain silent when the cops are trying to trick you into confessing to a crime or violate your privacy.
If the stupid pig actually arrests you for not answering questions, you get to watch a judge chew out the arresting officer for wrongful arrest and the prosecutor for pressing stupid charges while she signs the paperwork to dismiss the case. There's a chance you won't have to pay the speeding ticket either.
Hell, in some places you can (and arguably should) kill the cop, since you were being kidnapped for no reason. Self defense doesn't stop because the criminal has a piece of metal pinned to his shirt.
digihippie ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:48:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You must be young
skylarmt ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't mean I'm wrong. Ask literally any lawyer and they'll tell you to never under any circumstances talk to the police.
splinter1545 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:04:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're taking the advice literally. There's a difference in not talking to the police when being interviewed for a crime, in which case that advice makes sense. That advice makes no sense when being pulled over; all you're doing is making yourself seem more suspicious over a speeding ticket.
Like yeah, they don't have to k ow everything when they pull you over, but being a dick is just wasting both you and the cop's time.
flyingwolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:16:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't talk to the police.
Nalukai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
you cant tell these dipshits this.
flyingwolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 911 operator down further in the thread telling me how a cop deciding to give you a harsher punishment because you chose to remain silent and assert your rights is perfectly fine and in no way wrong.
Some folks are just completely lost.
Nalukai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
let your lawyer argue that- these people are completely ignorant of the law and know jack and shit. and jack left town when this thread was made.
Nalukai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
you can sue later in a civil court to get the cop fired after you are proven innocent
flyingwolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, shut up, do not hinder, but do not help. Keep your mouth shut, admit to nothing, assert your rights but do not resist.
Your lawyer will kiss you on the mouth for this.
loanshark69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When pulled over you are quite literally being suspected of a crime. And if not then the stop was illegal.
digihippie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:08 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No technically it doesn't, but one day you will understand.
TaruNukes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:56:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's also a thing called being polite and having common courtesy for other people. Using this ingenious tactic I've been given warnings on 90% of my interactions with police.
JeffreyPetersen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:50:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you kill a cop, youโre going to federal prison, if you donโt accidentally shoot yourself on the way to jail. There is no way in hell youโre getting away with murdering a cop because you feel like he was โkidnappingโ you.
skylarmt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If some random person with a gun, taser, pepper spray, and a baton is attacking you with the goal of taking you prisoner against your will and against the law, would you comply? Of course not. A badge makes no difference.
omegaweaponzero ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:09:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Try it and let's see how well it works out for you.
DrZelks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Please try this. Please. The world be better for it.
skylarmt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, who knows how many other innocent people that criminal would have attacked if nobody stopped him.
DrZelks ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:16:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! You can be a hero, buddy! I believe in you.
texag93 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you're wrong and here's the proof.
https://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Man-Charged-With-Killing-Burleson-County-Deputy-No-Billed-by-Grand-Jury-243993261.html
JeffreyPetersen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:22:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One guy got away with it because his home was being invaded in the middle of the night during a no-knock warrant.
No jury is going to say you were acting in self defense if youโre being questioned and the officer decides to detain you and you just shoot them because you donโt feel like they should be able to do that.
texag93 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is probably true, but it's not what you originally said.
JeffreyPetersen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was replying to the guy who said to shoot a cop if you choose not to say anything and you get arrested anyway.
ACEPATS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:09:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao good luck with that buddy.
allothernamestaken ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit
TaruNukes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol.. that's the idiots version I guess
chevymonza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Last time I got pulled over, it was for passing a police car on the highway, on the left. He said "don't you think that was a stupid thing to do?" I said, "actually, yes, I agree, it was very stupid. I've been on this road for nearly two hours and must've zoned out listening to the radio."
He let me go with a warning. Whew!!
DonaldsMushroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
SlickRicksBitchTits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that saying yes to 'do you know how fast you were going?' was just incriminating yourself
The_Golden_Warthog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah man that worked in that situation but you should never tell a cop you knew how fast you were going when you get pulled over. If they ask you if you know why they pulled you over, say no. That's it. If they ask you if you knew your speed, say no. That'll block any chance of them going, "Oh so you knew you were speeding?" Especially if you just said yes on a body cam. There goes any chance of deniability in court. I guess it just depends on the situation and cop, but that's why my family LEOs tell me.
mfkap ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 01:53:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The famous instructional video. https://youtu.be/JTurSi0LhJs
UDontKnowMeLikeThat ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 02:40:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
this is my favorite one
Putt-Blug ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:06:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I was hoping it was the one with Rap
Spiker985 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:46:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was this. https://youtu.be/uj0mtxXEGE8
romansamurai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to make sure someone posts this :)
Friggin_Grease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking of this reading this entire thread.
BadUsernam3 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:59:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I love this but this is since white people shit ๐
Wuh_Happen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What
bumbuff ยท 341 points ยท Posted at 01:14:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're forgetting the golden rule:
Don't be a dick about it. Give them your ID and you'll probably go on about your day just fine.
_TheConsumer_ ยท 172 points ยท Posted at 01:41:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You mean I shouldnโt scream at that officer that he has no constitutional authority to pull me over?
pedantic-asshat ยท 166 points ยท Posted at 01:48:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, you should explain in detail that you are traveling and he has no jurisdiction. If he protests show him your handmade license plate and unsigned SS card. Heโs then constitutionally required to release you. If he doesnโt, depending on the flag in the courtroom you can sue the judge.
JJohn8 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:58:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I see you're a sovereign citizen
Bluebies999 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:49:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. r/amibeingdetained is leaking.
pedantic-asshat ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Go on
pedantic-asshat ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 03:06:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol l was hoping youโd respond, anyway, l see youโre a tard who wouldnโt recognize satire if it bludgeoned you in the face.
-Anyar- ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:08:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're not the only person allowed to use sarcasm on Reddit. The person you replied to also has the capability.
xmindallas ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:29:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's how he could tell you're a sovereign citizen -- by the bludgeon marks on your face from the officer's baton.
hereforthebob ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:29:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. You'd think with the level of satire you used that you'd be able to detect the thick sarcasm there.
TaruNukes ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:57:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
iateyourpickles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The ole gold fringe defense.
KingsConsent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Strawman ftfy
InterdimensionalTV ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:47:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot the most important part: be sure to scream โAM I BEING DETAINED?!โ at every opportunity.
Millenilol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never given gold but that gave me a laugh. Have the best I can offer ๐ฅ
w_rezonator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Im not driving, im travelling ffs.
Joey__stalin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I wish someone would point me to a website that explains these sovereign citizens, rather than just reddit threads about them.
annul ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:24:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
AM I BEING DETAINED?
MrBurnz99 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:05:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am a sovereign citizen! You have no authority over me!
expiredeternity ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:07:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Calmly explain that you are a sovereign citizen and he has no authority over you. Works almost all the time.
limping_man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
AM I BEING DETAINED?
Nerfed_Nerfgun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
RoAD piRaTes
sakara123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Except they literally do...
bumbuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You'll have to explain that to me a bit harder.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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_TheConsumer_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:22:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Because telling an officer that he has no right to pull you over is possibly the dumbest thing you could do. The law is well settled - police have authority to pull you over/ask you questions.
Aarakocra ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 01:38:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is the big thing. No, you donโt need to tell them all about you, but they do need your identifying information via the card. You are under no obligation to assist them, but you do have to identify yourself. Unless itโs an area where they profit off tickets, the biggest priority is checking whether you are actually someone they need to be concerned about, such as existing warrants or previous suspicious behavior. Like kids getting pulled over late at night for snall things; they donโt really care that your headlight is out while you are driving in a well-lot area, they care about a possible drunk driver or similar issue and this is a foolproof probable cause to pull you over. Worst case, they give you a warning after making sure the teen isnโt doing something bad.
willyofhousewonka ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 02:12:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I once had an officer pull me over at midnight for an โillegalโ U-turn and when I asked where it was posted that I couldnโt flip a shitty, he said โI was really just checking to see if you were sober. Have a good evening.โ
iamkeerock ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 04:00:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โFlip a shittyโ? I have never heard this before... what region of this planet is this slang from?
keepwatchingtheskis ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 05:47:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In suburban areas of NY we always said โflip a bitchโ to indicate a U-turn.
Ann_OMally ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:03:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same in Minnesota. Flip a bitch for u turns. Whipping a shitty is spinning around in snow. Sometimes on purpose and sometimes before going in the ditch.
Needs_supervision ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:54:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same in Kansas. I'm pretty sure that my kids may actually think "flip a bitch" is the technical term.
bibliovalkyrie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:06:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Meanwhile, elsewhere, my family calls them "Bat Turns."
nananananananana BAT TURN!!
FatFrenchFry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:24:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In AZ I have always said flip a bitch too. Never heard of flipping a shitty.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:51:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We say that here in semi-rural Missouri too.
TKHunsaker ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:38:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also here in urban Seattle
weliveintheshade ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:58:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sound similar to "chuck a U-ey" we'd say in Australia.
harlequinnx ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:19:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I say that in Kansas too!
Oski96 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:09:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I figured you'd work boomerang in there somewhere
Shadoze_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:52:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Northern California here and Iโve never heard it either, in these parts many people say flip a bitch
kimshade123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:05:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Utah and a lot of us say flip a bitch.
BlockIsHot80 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:47:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Minnesotan here - while it's not a popular saying, I've definitely heard it before/recognize it.
Edit: Thought on this some more, here in MN it's definitely "Whip a shitty" as I've heard it!
willyofhousewonka ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:39:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Has to be a Midwest thing. The first time I heard someone not know what it meant, I thought they were from another country.
LOTRfreak101 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:43:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from the midwest and I'm completely baffled. Might be a great lakes area thing.
willyofhousewonka ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:52:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm from small town Nebraska. Pretty sure that I thought it was more common than it is based on all of the responses so far.
hereforthebob ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:26:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I guess Chicago is the edge of that area, but we say "U-ey"
Ug_Lee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:56:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
North Dakotan here, itโs definitely a northern Midwest thing.
willyofhousewonka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:05:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
North Dakota, eh? We should get some pounders in to-go cups and flip some shitties.
SchwiftyMpls ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:53:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I immediately knew this was a Minnesota thing.
sdh68k ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:55:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A girl I dated from Wisconsin used to say "whip a shitty"
OutlawJessie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:43:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do hope there's a mammoth comedy-misunderstanding first date story coming.
sdh68k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:03:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to disappoint
willyofhousewonka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:29:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Small town Nebraska. Which is just another way of saying not Omaha or Lincoln. We flipped shitties on main every day after practice. Up until the street lights came on and we knew we had to get home for supper.
mmmmmarty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We say "Whip a shitty" in NC, USA
CreamyAltruist9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In Wyoming. "Flip a bitch, flip a u-ey, flip a shitty" would all be clearly understood here.
Pakhtoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:51:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In Germany we say โTรผrkische Kampfkurveโ, which roughly translates to โturkish fightcurveโ.
lairdisonfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Spin a tasty"
-StarJewel- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Western Canada as well. Also used for doing donuts.
FuckingCanadian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not in BC.... or maybe I'm just old now. Shit....
Heterophylla ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:47:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from BC and I say it, but it's not common. I think I picked it up from an Ontarian.
northernabguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Northern Alberta....โwhip a shittyโ โhang a shit hookโ and โbustin a bitchโ are all ones I have heard, but the last one only from Texans...
sawyouoverthere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:54:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
never heard it, I'm in Alberta.
We used to say "hook a cookie" for a U turn.
maybe it's an age/stage/life choices thing, given who else is saying they have heard it.
-StarJewel- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in Alberta too. Lol I've never heard hook a cookie. We have lots of weird slang tho so ya lol. Learning! :)
thwinks ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:20:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Abuse of power
Harmless abuse of power in this case, but still abuse
tafor83 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:25:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's not even harmless, honestly. We get upset when people waste law enforcement's time on fake/menial crap. This is law enforcement wasting their own time. It should be looked down on far worse.
DemascusSeal ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:40:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention they stop our run on the thread mill leaving us behind in the economic position we were in before confronting the law enforcing officer that abused his power. Where is the justice in that?
thekoggles ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:25:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There are no harmless abuses of power.
acid_etched ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:42:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Only precedents.
GroovingPict ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:32:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
that you couldnt what?
willyofhousewonka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:46:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Make a U-turn. โFlip a shittyโ is so much more fun to say! Lol. I knew it wasnโt all that common but didnโt realize the saying was so obscure. You all need to come hang out in the Midwest for awhile and expand your horizons!
gidget_white ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:49:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm from Iowa and we always said โflip a bitch.โ
willyofhousewonka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:57:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, thatโs because youโre inbred in Iowa.
Alacatastrophe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Alabamian here. We say "pork a sister."
OmenQtx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:04:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I once got pulled over for a sobriety check because I was driving exactly the speed limit with both hands on the wheel. Small town Oklahoma cop thought he should find out why I was so intently following the law.
I had been driving for 11 hours or so. I just wanted to get home in one piece.
WanderingWillshaper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, good cop. If only all cops were like that, no power tripping, just genuine public interest
yeahwhuteva ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:59:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bust a U-ey in Miami
seaturtle79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol! I have never hear it called this b4! Love it
Nuf-Said ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was once pulled over in a little town named Buena, NJ. where itโs almost impossible to not get pulled over. I used to refer to it as the gauntlet. The township apparently makes a huge % of its budget from traffic fines. Anyway, since I knew the score, I was always extra careful to not to commit even the slightest infraction. One night I was pulled over for no apparent reason and after I produced all the necessary paperwork, I was informed that I was pulled over because my license plate light was out. They told me there would be no ticket, I thanked them and promised to fix it first thing in the morning. When Ingot home I walked around the back of my car while the headlights were still on, and guess what? My license plate light wasnโt out at all. It took me a second to figure out why I was stopped. They were just hoping to smell either alcohol or weed and needed any excuse to pull me over. Yup, thatโs the gauntlet for you.
KingsConsent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm I have a record and warrants but none in the state I live no drivers license only an I'd and they see it and give it back scold me a little and lemme go. They wanna make sure my truck ain't stolen and I havnt commuted any local crimes. I have not been commiting crimes locally so I'm good.
CharlieHume ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Randomly searching people just going about their day hoping to catch shit is terrible police work.
ACEPATS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Youโd be surprised what you can find from a simple traffic stop for a headlight out.
kshulman001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:54:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
perhaps but itโs not justifiable
ACEPATS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is it a violation of traffic law? If so, thatโs the definition of justifiable.
kshulman001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
after rereading, youโre right. idk why i was thinking you were saying itโs okay to stop someone for no reason. it probably means i should shut up and go to to bed.
ACEPATS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bud, this has been the most polite back and forth Iโve ever had on this website. Sorry for being snarky in my previous comment.
CharlieHume ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:07:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No I wouldn't because having a headlight out isn't PC and no amount of bullshit caught because of searching someone without PC is justifiable.
ACEPATS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah I never said that a headlight is PC. It is, however, reasonable suspicion for a traffic stop. Once at that level, I can ID the person driving and request ID from a passenger. If something seems off, I can have a K9 do a sniff around the car. If the stop changes and I develop PC for a search, then I can. Someone could be wanted on an active warrant, and the area theyโre sitting in can be searched incident to their arrest. The driver could be DUI or DUID, and itโs a great way to find out.
A headlight out is a good reason to stop a car and try to conduct interdiction. Never once in my reply did I state that it was okay to search someone without consent, a warrant, or probable cause.
Valsury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule number 4 from my teen years, only break one law at a time.
OneBrickShy58 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Worst case? I donโt think youโre using that term correctly.
Aarakocra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm saying worst case from the LEOโs perspective. Pull you over for something insignificant but thatโs cut and dry, then they can check you for more important things while you are stopped.
Now a true worst case would be the person they pulled over being a SovCit nutjob who ends up trying to kill them, but Iโm working off the assumption that they are pulling over a normal person.
finest_bear ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:21:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Got pulled over last week for doing 75 in a 55 (okay for real though it's like a highway and traffic was doing 70).
Before he could get to my window I already had my ID, insurance, and registration in my hand. The second thing he pulled me over for I politely ask him for clarification on the rule. He checked on the rule and then apologized that he was wrong, he then let me go on my merry, speedy way
lord_of_bean_water ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:36:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful on digging around while a cop walks up.
amkingdom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
right?
Tadhgdagis ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 02:10:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've found it depends less on what I'm doing and more on what they're doing.
Did I get pulled over at a speed trap? I'm absolutely getting a ticket.
Did I get pulled over on <insert high traffic & crime problems area>? I'm gonna get hassled, almost certainly get a ticket.
Did I get pulled over anywhere else? It's fine, no ticket.
My favorite was when I was doing something like 60 in a 30 trying not to miss a flight after being diverted to the far terminal due to a parking ramp closure.
":looks at ID: Parking?" :relief as I know he understands: "Yes" "Your car?" "Huh? Oh, yes." "Slow down." I literally had a 30 second interaction for going 30 over the speed limit. I can only imagine what that guy's day was like.
Edit: plus I'm white, so that helps...an uncomfortably large amount.
Tyndoom ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 05:22:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm black and get fined every time so check your privallege. You will never understand our struggle. Imagine having your race that you were Born into be the only reason you can't succeed in life then you'll understand.
Tadhgdagis ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:41:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I...did?
JustTrustMeBro ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:03:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The second you say โcheck your privilegeโ people are gonna stop listening mate.
BhMhWh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:47:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck do you want him to do, stop being white?
RyuNoKami ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:00:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"don't be a dick."
is a lesson that needs to be learn by everyone in pretty much most situations. don't make a problem when there isn't one.
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WaterBear9244 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:27:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you get pulled over by highway patrol. Then youre furshur getting a ticket.
leviathonlx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:27:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got pulled over here in Ohio about a month and a half ago going 80 in a 60 by a Highway Patrol. I considered the seat belt ticket I got a warning (I was wearing my seat belt) since the alternative was several points on my license and a very expensive ticket.
mel-tillis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:00:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve gotten pulled over before for โnot wearing my seatbeltโ which I was wearing. Wasnโt speeding though. I think the dude just had nothing better to do than to bother people.
a_corsair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not always... I've been let go with a warning more often than I've gotten a ticket
CodeLevelJourney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Opposite way around here in Florida. I can get pulled over by police doing 50 over the limit and walk away with a warning if Iโm polite. Highway patrol will fuck you over here going 10 over.
True story, one night I was out with friends were weโre drinking and smoking weed. Our DD was being egged on by me to drive crazy (I had a nice sports car and wanted to show off to him) any way we hit a corner go across the median and destroy the car into a ditch after sliding through opposing traffic.
2 cop cars come up behind us, make sure we are ok, and tell us they smell weed. Now keep in mind in this county at least itโs decriminalized (not sure in specific about the state) we admit we had been smoking but do not have any on us and they ask if we have a ride, they wait around till our ride and tow truck arrive and they leave. Apparently because airbags didnโt deploy they didnโt have to file anything or something like that.
tterb0331 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This. Most use traffic violations or whatever as probable cause to pull you over in hopes to catch a bigger fish. If you donโt have anything to hide, and youโre not a raging penis, most of the time youโll get off with a warning. Not the case with all officers obviously. The Troopers, especially here in South Texas, are all looking for that big drug bust.
You can talk your way into a ticket if you want to though
Muffstic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:59:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely don't be a dick, but don't kiss their ass just because.
I was pulled over for a license plate light supposedly burned out. While she was running my license I got out and checked the lights. She told me "next time don't get out of your car, I don't know if you're getting a weapon."
I responded "you didn't identify yourself, for all I know you're some random person trying to murder me."
Her next response was "fair enough, here's your warning, have a nice day"
For all who might wonder: it was obviously dark so I couldn't tell for sure it was a cop car. I made sure not to reach in my trunk and stood to the side so my hands were visible at all times.
newagain20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just comply. However, as a grown adult, you should know when the line is being crossed between compliance and dealing with a fresh-out-of-the-academy with a bad attitude. This is the place where a person's race/gender/other outward identifiers becomes very touchy.
I"m a white guy, and never encounter law enforcement with an attitude. But I truly feel that minorities, the youngest of us that are considered adults, and women, get some inconsistent treatment, and it's not fair, and it needs to be called out.
pknk6116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've tried all of the recommended stuff. Radio off, hands on steering wheel until cop asks me to roll down window. Being polite and courteous and straightforward.
Never gotten a warning, ticket every goddamn time. My wife is the exact opposite.
TheGreatBwaBwa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
After the desk ticket/fine (NYC).
Arrokoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was pulled over in a part of town that's famous for handing out tickets like candy.
I came around a bend doing 29 mph, speed limit 20. Oops. As soon as I came around, I saw him stopped at the opposing curb and he made a u-turn as I passed.
I knew I was caught so I pulled over and had my license and insurance ready as he walked up.
When he came back after running my license, I pointed to all the people that very obviously slowed down when they saw his lights and made a joke about how at least I am serving as giant caution sign to the rest of them.
He cracked up and asked me to drive safer and let me go with a warning.
I suspect not being a dick helps a lot.
bumbuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently it does.
A good video to watch that shows both sides:
https://youtu.be/k0Y35EpOiFc
Narrative_Causality ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:24:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't know. I've never had issues with cops before just doing what they asked. I'm white, so maybe that has something to do with it?
Anyway, fuck pigs. ACAB
whatphukinloserslmao ยท 210 points ยท Posted at 01:33:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wise words from my stepfather. "If you didn't call the police, the police are not your friend"
OnlyHereToUplift ยท 250 points ยท Posted at 01:53:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you do call the police, the police are not your friend.
dra39437 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 02:05:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Unless youโre rich, the police mostly serve to protect property owners
The_Singularity16 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:12:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In America, they have no obligation to actually serve or protect you.
NewAccount4Friday ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:06:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You are correct, sir. SCOTUS ruled their job is only to enforce law. Consequently this ruling also strengthened the gun-right arguments on self protection.
The_Singularity16 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:49:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This alone is why I understand pro gun. Especially if you are a woman. Police don't care much about if you're being assaulted, sexual or otherwise. They'll come to your house look around if it doesn't look suss they'll leave. Hopeless. There's a reason there's more employed in private security than in police.
feta_morgana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:58:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thing is, anti gun means all the others have no guns either, i prefer it this way around. Of course guns exist here aswell, but faaaar less
PaisleyPig2019 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You mean people prefer to work in industries where they are not hated and continuously spoken poorly about. How shocking....
TKHunsaker ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:40:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then they shouldnโt be so piss poor at their jobs. A badge should be earned, not handed out with hoods and torches.
PaisleyPig2019 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:31:44 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit is a worldwide forum, and you are generalizing about millions of people.
assspelunkers ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
DV calls are the most dangerous for law enforcement.
The_Singularity16 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:05:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You know, wars are dangerous for soldiers. They still soldier. DV is dangerous for police. Why don't they police? Is it not dangerous for the victims?
assspelunkers ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:18:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I'm not taking a position. But I believe more police are killed or injured on those calls than anything else. It's a systemic problem. Societal thinking is that it's just a couple trying to work things out.
chuckdiesel86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And im the grand scheme of things being a cop isn't all that dangerous. There's lots of "normal jobs" that are more dangerous.
Afk94 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:13:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That isnโt true either. They protect whoever feel like protecting at the time. If itโs too much work they just let it go.
Malconal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Aht aht they protect nobody he said
treebeard318 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:14:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
also they wonโt bother you if you are contributing to commerce.
loitering around a nice shopping center in your sweatpants with no shirt? you are deterring money spenders from shopping.
drunk and causing a fight at a restaurant? prepare for arrest.
drunk and spending money? โenjoy your evening sirโ
Same principle with trump and co.
NoAirCon ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:16:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more the bar's call on that one. If the barman is happy to rake in a load of money from a drunk guy, they will. But if they get fed up and call the cops for drunk and disorderly the cops will turn up and deal with it. The cops don't care about how much money the bar is pulling in that night, it makes no difference to them.
treebeard318 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:19:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, canโt be disorderly, unless itโs your own beauty pageant
IncredibleHamTube ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Na they'll kill you regardless. They serve and protect themselves.
Jamia-Millia-Islamia ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:15:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. They will sieze your shit even if you are rich.
BingoBimmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:02:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In their defense they deal with criminals 90% of the time so they just assume you are one too. The job warps their impression of society.
endlessly_curious ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:13:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That isnt in their defense at all. They should be smart enough to avoid that warp or they arent qualified for the job. Plus, the percentage is not that high.
BingoBimmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy to say that, but they fall into the trap subconsciously. Imagine day after day watching the hurt people can do to one another. See perfect looking families only to find out dad beats mom and the kids. Or, the local guy mentoring the youth is actually selling them drugs.
endlessly_curious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:22 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For everyday like the one you describe, they have days where they do nothing but write speeding tickets, attend to wrecks or run radar. I have friends who are cops and they spend a lot of time on paperwork or bullshit like arresting people for a quarter of weed.
I get what you are saying but part of the job is to serve the community, not be suspicious of every person they come across and try to find a way to ticket or arrest them. If you are not smart enough to not make assumptions, they need to find a different profession. Assumptions are more often wrong than right.
Arrokoth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:42:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you call the police a "fucking pig", they are most certainly not your friend.
scificionado ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
True. See Justin Damond. She was killed for her good intentions.
Amithrius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be polite. Be cooperative if it is in your interest to do so.
davchana ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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ActionScripter9109 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:53:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And even then, there's a pretty good chance they're still not your friend.
010000110100111101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:04:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
the police are not your friend. that's all anyone needs to know.
whatphukinloserslmao ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:56:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but there point I was being taught is... if you didn't call them for help, don't tell them anything.
stickyvonicky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a problem and you call the police, now you have two problems
pleasetellmeimwrong0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Simpler version: The police are not your friend.
incubusfc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:53:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This. So much.
GroverWeaveland ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:07:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of a friend whose car ran out of gas. A cop offered to take us in his car to a gas station to get a can and some gas. Friend proceeds to mention the plate on his registration was wrong bc it was printed with a wrong digit and that he didn't have his license on him. I'm like bro, we're already on the back of a cop car, don't volunteer shit!
Detective_Cousteau ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:06:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's plenty cause for anxiety in these situations, and anxiety will make you do detrimental shit, like motor-mouthing or indulging anxiety out loud. I'd advise everyone to learn some breathing exercises and grounding techniques for situations like these.
WentOutForSmokes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:27:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never say anything to the cops without an attorney. Nothing. Ever.
Botryllus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And insurance representative
bobtnelis99 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:14:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's always an exception. Way back when I was 16 I had a cop pull me over for crossing the centerline. I reached to grab something out of the backseat after making sure there was no one in front or behind me. When I sat back up I had drifted over the line. I corrected and then I saw the lights. He asked me if I knew why he had stopped me and I laughed and was honest with him. Turns out the cop that stopped me was something of a local right of passage. To this day I'm the only person I've heard of who attended my school that he didn't give a ticket to. That day he asked me to come have a seat in his car and he wrote me out a warning. He thanked me for being honest and told me to drive safe before he let me go on my way. That was 25 years ago and despite being in half a dozen accidents, that's the closest I've ever come to actually getting a ticket.
Commentnotcomment ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:18:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just dont talk to the cops
ChandlerMc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the spirit of this thread I'll leave this here without further comment. Don't Talk To The Police
martyr_mouse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:01:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Anything you say can and will be used AGAINST you..." Not on you behalf.
vegetarianrobots ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
Neo_Saigon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Except if you have a job interview with law enforcement.
So you received your diploma at Boston U?
Yes ...
settledownguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You have the right to keep your god damn mouth closed.
EvTerrestrial ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And human resources. They are not your friends.
batsybatsybatsy16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"son, I'm pulling you over for beating the red light"
"geez, i thought it's for the dude I kidnapped on the trunk."
craftierspace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learned this the hard way when I falsely admitted to street racing out of panic/anxiety (first time getting pulled over). Stupid me had no clue what to tell him and decided to call overtaking street racing like an idiot.
Nattylight_Murica ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the people who constantly say this shit are boring white people like myself who never have this issue in the first place but are parroting advice like theyโve been somehow repressed.
leelougirl89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I laughed HARD when I read your comment.
When I was 20, I worked at the reception desk of my office. A giant police officer walked in and starting asking about a specific co-worker, "Bob". Bob was really nice, but he was into some shady shit. 100%. The cop asked if Bob came into work today, where he was, etc. I answered truthfully but wasn't OVERLY helpful. Like when he asked for Bob's number, I said, "Uhhhhhhhhh I'm so sorry but I don't think I can give that out, really, I'm so sorry."
He was understanding, super polite. Started writing something in his pad.
When I'm nervous, I try to say lighthearted/funny things. It's a natural response. So I jokingly said, "Oh man, I feel so nervous right now. But I have no reason to be. I'm like one of those people who gets scared of failing a drug test even though they've never taken drugs before. Haha." He kept writing. I started to panic that he was writing about me. "Like, I've never taken drugs in my life. I mean, not even marijuana. Seriously, in high school I-" He cut me off and said,
"You're giving me too much information."
My coworkers teased me for WEEKS. They'd walk by me, put their hands up and yell, "I DON'T DO DRUGS."
Oh and Bob was a witness to an accident, that's why they were looking for him. They needed his help.
ShiftyBid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Unless you work for law enforcement. Then you better be 100% honest the first time you're asked about something.
Edit: not sure who or why, but three people have replied and then deleted said comment before I could open it to read
onetimerone ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:41:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think you should be honest either way but you should remain silent whenever the opportunity presents.
0lancity ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:58:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah its really about not oversharing, or giving more than you have to.
They have to fill out paperwork that either justifys their cause, or make themselves look important. just give them the bare details.
Edit: oh yeah, be polite - if you make their job harder they're going to come down harder.
onetimerone ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:01:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And do it politely, be courteous, it's not always going to go in your favor but it increases the chances significantly. Put your hands on the wheel where they can see both of them too.
0lancity ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:07:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good point, I updated my comment to reflect that.
They deal with some pretty tough people, and being polite can sometimes make a big difference to how smoothly things go.
The hands on the wheel might be an american thing
but understanding what your local authorities are expecting is important
Aarakocra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It might be a lesser issue in areas where weapons are less readily available. It doesnโt need to be hands on the wheel, it needs to show you arenโt a threat, so they know if you were to pick out a weapon.
SmeggySmurf ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 00:59:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pig: Where you going
Me: That way
Pig: Why
Me: Because I was there *points backwards* and I don't want to be there anymore
Pig: What's down where you are going
Me: I don't know. That's why I'm going to see it
kfite11 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:12:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And that's when a traffic stop that should have been done with in 2 minutes and a warning turns into a 25 minute thorough search where your car gets torn apart. LPT: being cheeky with authority figures will never make your situation better.
SmeggySmurf ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but I was walking. Can't search my car if it's not there. And don't ask to strip search me. I'll do it right then and there with wiggles and giggles
ShiftyBid ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:01:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure that's not relevant to my comment
I said work for law enforcement, as in internal investigations.
Also, being a smart ass to a cop is a good way to change the warning they were gonna give you into a ticket.
Source: 9-1-1 operator that frequently talks with department officers about dumb people they stop.
flyingwolf ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So you are a member of the police force.
And you have no issue with a police officer choosing to punish a person for not kowtowing to them and licking their boots.
Say it with me.
ACAB
ShiftyBid ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:19:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I understand that officers are lenient when the law says they should not be.
flyingwolf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:23:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So they are breaking the law then?
Laws should be enforced fairly for all, not picked and chosen based upon how much you flirt with the cop.
ShiftyBid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
The matter has nothing to do with flirting.
People make legitimate mistakes, and officers are aware of that and are lenient to people they believe may have made a genuine mistake.
If you're rude and belligerent, you more than likely knew exactly what you were doing to get pulled over.
When you break a cookie jar as a kid you don't tell at your parents and be rude to them. You're respectful and understand that what you did was wrong and they go easy on you. It's the same situation with law enforcement officers. You did something you know is wrong, and it's up to the officer to give you a warning or discipline. If you're rude and belligerent, the choice to be lenient looks a lot less favorable.
I have officers that write citations every single time there is a citable offense. I also have officers who prefer to let people making honest mistakes off with warnings because just being pulled over will most likely correct their behaviors.
Law enforcement officers are given authority to issue citations based on local, state, and federal laws. They are given the authority to also waive penalty of those laws when deemed appropriate. I've talked to many officers who said they had every intention of giving somebody a warning until they ran their mouth. So the officers gave them the full punishment allowable under the law. They've also had people theyve been lenient with because they were respectful and obviously knew what they did was wrong, which is also allowable under law.
duck-duck--grayduck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When I broke a cookie jar as a kid, I cleaned it up and apologized for being careless, and that was that. I did not worry that my parents wouldn't "go easy on me," because as shitty as they were, they didn't punish me for accidental breakage of objects. WTF is the matter with your parents.
Also, cops aren't analogous to parents. That's some weird authoritarian boot licking creepiness.
ShiftyBid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Why can't you just do that for a cop that catches you breaking the law?
With my children, their punishment is cleaning up their mess. They apologize and move on.
If they refuse to clean it up they are given a time out, and then clean it up.
Accident or not, they caused the jar to break. Therefore, it's their punishment to receive.
A cop has 2 paths of punishment, citation or written warning. Your attitude decides which you receive.
Parents are authority figures to children.
Cops are authority figures to adults.
Pretty sure they are analogous. I'd like to hear who you believe is the adult authority figure analogous to parents if not cops though.
Edit to clarify: if you apologize for what you did and show remorse (just like you did as a child accidentally breaking a cookie jar) most officers let you off with just that. An apology and written warning, just like your parents.
Im quite sure if you threw an attitude and screamed at your parents because you were mad you got caught accidentally breaking the cookie jar, it would've been more than "apologize and move on"
flyingwolf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:35:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Judges you fucking walnut, judges.
flyingwolf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:53:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We all know the trope of showing a cop your tits to get out a ticket, that's why it is a trope because it is true.
And so long as the person strokes the cop's ego enough they will not charge them, but even if it was a genuine mistake, if they piss the cop off the cop will absolutely fuck them over as much as possible.
Funny, since when is being silent and upholding your rights all of a sudden turned into rude and belligerent?
My parents weren't known to randomly kill people and get away with it or shoot my puppy when I disobeyed. I respected my parents. I tend not to respect cops.
Wow, this is a perfect example of the ignorance of law enforcement, it is not the cop's job to decide punishment and discipline, that is up to the legal system and the judge. The cop's job is to enforce the law.
Why? First of all, how is remaining silent and asserting your rights construed to be rude and belligerent? and secondly, how do you justify giving different results for the same action to different people based on how well they pleased you?
and how in the hell can you look at that and not see how it is absolutely ripe for abuse? "Suck my dick and I won't give you a ticket" comes to mind.
As they should, an offense was committed, it should be cited, if there was no offense, you do not cite.
If the honest mistake they made was not a crime or a citable offense then fine, but if it was a citable offense then they need to be treating everyone the same, otherwise you run into situations in which friends are let off and others are not, showing favoritism or racism is how this shit turns into massive internal investigations for corruption.
Which they should do equally and fairly without regard for whether the citizen stroked their ego or not.
And since when is exercising your rights a good enough reason to not exercise the ability to waive a penalty?
And you consider this sort of punitive response as extrajudicial punishment perfectly acceptable?
So like I said, stroke the cop's ego and you might get a lesser warning.
ShiftyBid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna say it one last time so you can mull it over and understand it fully.
Law maker says speeding is illegal, be it 1 mph or 15 mph above limit.
Officer sees someone driving 56 mph in a 55 mph zone.
According to you, that person deserves a citation. In my area, that citation is $125 for speeding 1-9 over the limit.
They were still committing an illegal act, but they admitted fault or kept quiet and so they got a warning and moved on.
Let's say the next person is driving 56 in a 55 as well.
Officer stops them, they are immediately belligerent and rude to the officer, shouting slurs and being generally rude. The officer gives them their fully justified ticket for speeding.
They could have gotten a warning and saved $125, but they decided it was more important to assert their right of free speech and be rude. So the cop asserted his right to issue the citation.
There are corrupt cops, but they are far more rare than most of society believes.
It comes down to this. If you make a mistake and admit to it and show you're remorseful and understand that you did something wrong, officers don't think you need a $125 fine to learn your lesson. If you're screaming obscenities at them, you most likely aren't remorseful over your illegal action and just angry you got caught. You probably need the $125 fine to learn what you did was wrong, because you're not showing you learned a lesson from being pulled over.
Law enforcement is not black and white. If you want it to be that way, go sign up for law enforcement academy and become the officer that cites each and every person no matter their situation or offense.
If you don't want to do that, I would hope you never complain about receiving a citation regardless of your situation or offense.
flyingwolf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:33:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This should be fun.
No speeding laws are written this way, they are written with tolerances in mind. Hence the need for calibrated speedometers in police cars and calibrated testing equipment to actually issue a citation which is upheld in court.
The law recognizes that speedometers are not perfect and as such the laws are written with such tolerances in mind.
An officer cannot see this, they would need to either pace the person for a period of time, use a calibrated machine to determine the speed or have a confession.
And the fact that there is a possibility of the police car being half an MPH off and the persons car being half an MPH off meaning they were both in fact within the 55 MPH speed but due to the confounding of the differences made it look like one was speeding, the ticket would never make it to court.
This is not officer discretion, this is basic physics and 101 law.
If a person can be proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt to have been going 56 in a 55 knowingly, then yes, they should get a ticket for 1mph over the speed limit.
Known commonly as a "contempt of cop" ticket.
Why? If they were breaking the law, why were they let go with a warning, oh that's right because they stroked the cop's ego.
I love that you have to add in some bullshit about shouting slurs and being rude when the "rudeness" you responded to what shutting the fuck up and not speaking to the police.
It shows your bias so clearly that not stroking the cop's ego is considered rude, that exerting your rights is considered rude.
"The citizen did what he was legally allowed to do so I fucked him over even though I wasn't required to".
And you see nothing wrong with that. Hence, ACAB.
Really?
One bad apple spoils the bunch.
I bet you think you are a good cop, but you have spent the past hour arguing that asserting your rights is grounds for extrajudicial punishment by the police.
When did it become the job of a cop to teach lessons?
Notice this strawman you keep arguing? Notice no one said anything about screaming obscenities at the cops except for you? You have to make something up in order to make your point.
Again, when did it become the job of the police to teach lessons?
No thanks, I would prefer not to end up killed, put in a mental asylum, have my children murdered, have my info looked up and death threats sent to me, have my career ruined, etc, you know, the things that happen to good cops that ticket bad cops.
I would be happy to write a citation for a cop anytime I see them break the law, unfortunately, I am afraid of the retaliation I would receive.
After all, look what happens when you just tell a cop to slow down.
And I will absolutely complain if my citation was bogus or illegal. I love your attitude, you honestly think that no matter the circumstances, even if the charges are blatantly false, that I can't complain about them unless I am willing to police the police.
I wil say it again, ACAB.
Chalino69 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:02:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao this is just asking for trouble if youโre a minority
Nalukai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
STOP RESISTING!
SmeggySmurf ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:06:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'm about as white as you can be in a town full of lily white Mormons. Didn't stop the pigs from harassing me though for no reason
nucumber ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:22:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
next you're going to tell us the cops have a lousy attitude, right?
sheesh
SmeggySmurf ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Killing dogs does make you shitty
Nalukai ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:20:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
no- your best bet is to stfu and remain silent. period
PapagenoRed ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:56:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're a republican.
flyingwolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't talk to the police.
TNSepta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's why law professors recommend that you don't talk to the police!
Wearenotme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This. So much this.
FjohursLykewwe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And corporate auditors.
StoreCop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or your wife.
IAmDreams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For a second I figured this is what the topic was.
jed313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My father in law is a retired police officer, and he has always said "so many people talk themselves into trouble instead of out of it."
Krambazzwod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/7XeJJtgbm2s
Mikehunt0004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also works with your wife/gf.
HURCN_hugo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or just donโt speak and call a lawyer
askingforafakefriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And depositions!
cacarson7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this, then saw your comment right after
cbs5090 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This angers the FBI.
Theodarius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This video explains it best.
https://youtu.be/7XeJJtgbm2s
MagillaGorillasHat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know.
And my lawyer's gonna tell you the same thing.
420BongHitsForJesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing you need to say to law enforcement is โlawyerโ
Fubo1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Been pulled over twice. Was completely honest about why (I knew both times).
Didnโt get a ticket either time.
MajesticPonie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
^ Goes quadruple for any interface with girlfriends.
Twotimesman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or OSHA/other government inspectors.
doodlewacker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Loose lips sink ships.
yesyeskittens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also applies to nosey inlaws...
LaneKiffinsAlterEgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And auditors!
cheesedip244 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When they say tell them the truth and you'll be fine, don't listen to them they're lying fucks.
floggingsnogging ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This rule should be taught in school and by all parents.
I_am_Nic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs
topoftheworldIAM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or on reddit
LiquidDreamtime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
trudge_o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It happens to be if you can get them talking itโs great.
MaracaBalls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs
Silvea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For law enforcement just donโt say anything. Answer questions they have and leave it at that
Telemere125 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Correct in every way. Iโve had more clients confess when theyโre trying to talk their way out of some shit. Mouth shut = less chance of prison.
MoeHockey24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. The โshut the fuck upโ method is best.
DooDad-DontMother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Triple double in you're in a construction zone.
Fuckyeah7734 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. "I don't know nothin', I didn't do nothin, why'd you stop me and am I free to go?"
sybersonic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't say anything to LEO. Ever. Again, don't say anything to LEO, EVER.
Source : https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
Halftone-KoolAid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/JTurSi0LhJs
Swvfd626 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a cop, this guy is right.
Everything you say is admissable in court. I'm a friendly guy and alot of people tell me shit on the way to the jail and guess what....it goes in my report.
Ekudar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you have to use your right to remain silent and get a lawyer. Ever seen the confession tapes? Those fuckers will play with your head to get you to confess shit you didn't do
TIErant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't talk to the police unless you are reporting a crime or have a lawyer.
JakeSmithsPhone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And audits.
Malconal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This here
ctudirector ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That includes law enforcement employment.
timo_tay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One of the best videos on this topic is this onethis one.
jackssmile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never forget LEOs are not your friend.
32eugop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Better yet, never talk to the cops ever.
Suibian_ni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a defence lawyer once told me: 'The worst thing you can say to a cop is ANYTHING.'
mailman-zero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
An old, good lecture: Donโt Talk to the Police
Gnisha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hah. Yup, I was in cuffs about 2.3 seconds after I volunteered information.
Soylent_gray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was travelling, sir.
bigdon802 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There is only one good answer to a question from a police officer: "I'd like to speak to a lawyer."
lhamil64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or auditors
warm_slippers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Saw this on FB yesterday. โI know thereโs coke because I just bought someโ
https://i.imgur.com/UC0RI9v.jpg
welldiggersass888 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That didnโt take long. Reddit could take a post about koala bears and turn it into a cop bashing marathon.
MPeti1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same with online services
killerrobothippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Also (or specifically) border/customs agents. Be concise. The more you elaborate, the more they suspect.
LeftHandYoga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Every time this is rehashed over and over and over on this website I always disagree.
I grew up in extreme poverty and I have tons of experience with law enforcement.
What you said works great(mostly) if you are white, but following this rule as a minority will likely get you beat up, shot, and/or framed. Even as a white man I would not take this strategy because all you are going to do is piss off someone who has an undue amount of power over you in a situation you have no control over.
Go ahead, be an asshole, piss that cop off. See what happens.
Orrr, you could be mildly Cooperative without incriminating yourself, showing respect to authority and the law while simultaneously signaling that you are not nervous and you have nothing to hide, and most likely drive away just fine.
ree-or-reent_1029 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
STFU around law enforecement is the greatest advice ever.
Muad-Dass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:39 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Let us say Amen. As my old man once said:
โIf they donโt have a video tape or audio recording, you didnโt do it.โ
Cabalagent1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Two years ago, I rolled my travel trailer on the highway. Big mess. Sheriff's deputy rolls up first, sees my destroyed trailer and my wife running up and down on the shoulder, freaking out. As he walks up, I just hand him my driver's license, registration for the truck and trailer, and insurance cards and don't say anything.
The accident report I filled out was a masterpiece in brevity. Almost word for word it was "Doing 55 in the right hand lane. Guy in black car got on the highway while talking on his cell phone. I changed lanes to avoid a collision with him. Hit some black ice. Trailer rolled"
He was more pissed off that he failed to frisk me before putting me in the back of his car to *ahem* "fill out the paperwork" (yeah, you're way too wily for me, deputy) and then freaked when dispatch radioed back that I had a CCW. I didn't even look up from the accident form and just mumbled "not armed".
TheGiantTurd ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Entitlement.
Cabalagent1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:57:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
randallAtl ยท 297 points ยท Posted at 01:19:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a lawyer explain this to me once and it applies outside of legal issues. If your neighbors want to know why your yard is a mess. Or if your relative wants to know about your kid's grades. Or if a cop wants to know if you are friends with a known drug dealer. You don't have to tell them shit. You can just ignore them or delete their email/texts.
Et12355 ยท 199 points ยท Posted at 02:06:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My yard is a mess because Iโm too busy to properly take care of it. I would hire someone else to do it but I donโt have the money for that, what with Johnโs karate lessons and Alice learning piano. Speaking of John I worry that heโs spending too much time focusing on martial arts. His grades are starting to slip, he has a D in math and Cs in spelling and history, but I guess at least heโs still doing well in PE. Heโs really made some good friends in there, Matt in particular. Good kid, but I met his dad, David I think was his name, the other day, and he gave me sketchy vibes. I think he might be a drug dealer.
bonellia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:23:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf I hate reading myself
eskaps ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:06:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mom, is that you?
RememberTheKracken ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 02:03:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And you don't have to answer your door ever. Had a friend who got busted because his house smelled like pot (neighbor complained). Once the door was open the officer could smell pot and entered the house to search it. The first question his lawyer asked was "Why did you answer the door?" If you just act like you are not there they can't enter unless they already have a warrant. Then they'll enter anyway regardless of what you do.
bbleaker ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:03:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So if they know you are there cause you were making noise and pound on the door to say open up, and we ainโt leaving you donโt have to respond?
proddy ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:09:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Something something this is my own private domicile and I don't have to open the door unless you have a warrant, bitch!
Daaakness ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:35:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Jesse Pinkman in the house. Bitch.
The_Singularity16 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:17:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely!! What are they going to do set up a tent outside and a bucket to go dodo in? Later if you intersect paths, you were not home or you can't recall that day.
assspelunkers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:32:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was pulled over many years ago after having been out with friends. I had maybe 4 beers and waited a good half-hour before I left. Asked if I had been drinking, I replied "yes". All that was written on my ticket was "Admitted to drinking". My lawyer said I was dumb (his words) and that he could have got it dismissed if I had shut the fuck up.
Gadgetman_1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:27:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As soon as they smell drugs, or see drug use paraphernalia they have 'just cause' to search the premises.
ButtermilkDuds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:43 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I havenโt answered my door in years. Everyone has a phone now and will let me know if theyโre coming over. Anything else at my door is something I donโt want. Even before cell phones I asked people to call before coming over. I think thatโs just common courtesy. No one likes I unexpected guests. Maybe some people. But I donโt.
wilsonism ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 01:21:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Courts can't make me incriminate myself, you won't either.
johnnybiggles ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:40:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
angry dad stare
nakedsexypoohbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't do anything incriminating. Problem solved.
JabaDabaDew ยท 166 points ยท Posted at 02:49:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My wife lies when her sister asks questions that aren't her business.
I say ask a more intrusive, belligerent and offense question back. I've NEVER had this fail to stop anyone from asking me questions that are none of their business.
Why is my yard messy? (I would never get asked that but anyway)
I don't know Bob is your daughter having a hard time picking her way through it when she sneaks out to go whoring?
No more questions.
Heterophylla ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:00:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I read this in Red Foreman's voice.
Boomshockalocka007 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:52:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why is your yard messy though?
forthe_loveof_grapes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:05:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, serves Bob right
Gimligetsthering ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:36:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yep. I think it's almost a form of animalistic testing for dominance. People want to inquire and pressure others, when you respond back and show you're stronger they back down.
People forget humans are still animals and are driven by the same biology and instincts. If your mind doesn't overcome that, it will find a way to manifest itself. Hierarchy is one of the most fundamental animal traits, and humans do that through speech.
KrombopulosDelphiki ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:18:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why would Bobs daughter be sneaking out thru your yard? Is Bob your neighbor? Or is his daughter sneaking into your house to have threesomes with you and your wife?
(I'm just being silly, not picking apart the logic of your fictitious scenario btw)
T_M_F_K ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:13:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone left the chat
Jakemali ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well that escalated quickly.
desertedstreets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:49 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. We teach people how to treat us by showing what behavior we will allow or not.
mxt144 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:59 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And that's a KO for Bob...
pharlapdagoat ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 09:57:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a fun guy to be around...
JabaDabaDew ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:34:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like someone who doesn't understand jokes on a level on par with most people. Likely easily offended and generally annoying.
skylarmt ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:47:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Silence is also a form of expression, which is protected under the first amendment.
Sinfall69 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:03:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You should know that you must tell the police you are using your right to remain silent and you want a lawyer present for any questioning.
DISCARDFROMME ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:29:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can I do it in the form of an interpretive dance?
HandsomeKiddo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:32:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well yes, but he could interpret it as an admission of guilt
DoctorWaluigiTime ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 02:01:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be prepared for the consequences of being a tight-knit asswad though.
It's not you vs. the world most of the time. Thankfully most of us are normal people who have average lives that nobody cares about.
Not saying you have to be an open book, but don't have to be completely isolated either.
MrCheapskate_toyou ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:52:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Anything we say, WILL be used against us.
pleasetellmeimwrong0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
The_Singularity16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:15:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
See though, especially with the family example, you may get riposted for a time, but that time ends. Typically these people then latch onto the next thing, or associate closer with gossipers than otherwise. Overriding point is time usually means people forget.
swahzey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:30:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Back when I was wild, i kept my car from being towed multiple times by immediately stating that I have no insurance and possibly a suspended license before the cop said a word. they respect that, especially when you don't actually have a suspended license.
BarkinBear ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:05:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what? How was saying you were uninsured with a suspended license help the situation, or earn the cop's respect?
velocious ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:14:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you serious? Are people too dense to realize a good LPT can apply to 98% of scenarios instead of 100%? Obviously talking to the police is not beneficial, but if I get popped going 80 in a 60 Iโm going to just fucking admit it. Iโm not trying to sovereign citizen my way into 45 minute encounter that could have taken 5 minutes. fucking use common sense should be stickied at the top of this sub jfc
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:51:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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whimsyNena ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:16:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Um, r/hydrohomies would like a word.
IIRC itโs Finland and birds that arenโt real.
swahzey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:17:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't consider blunt honesty with police common sense unless you're getting pulled over for expired tags or fix it ticket type stuff
velocious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you not consider those examples akin to being 20mph over the speed limit? I'm not advocating you should tell police you have weed in your trunk
swahzey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Personally no, because 20 over is a hefty ticket in my area and it's risky hoping the cop is in a good enough mood to drop it to 19 mph over because I was cooperative. I rather stay quiet and fight it hoping he doesn't show at court.
velocious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough
swahzey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cops deal with a lot of people that think they can talk their way out of trouble with them so when you make their job as easy as possible they usually return the favor by not completely fucking you over. I still got a ticket though but he let me keep my car. Also I didn't have a suspended license either, just told him it might be
supahrank ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:08:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably white?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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supahrank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Meant to be more of a cheeky joke than anything, sorry for assuming!
swahzey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No apology needed when you're right! Not much of a joke either since you're right :(
mac224b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:37 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Were you a pretty girl? Would explain.
swahzey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:48 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was an ugly man, maybe the pity angle helped
kciuq1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:40:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always think of an episode of the West Wing where Babish is explaining that to CJ.
"Do you know what time it is?"
"It's 2:30"
Banish explains this concept.
"Do you know what time it is?"
"Yes"
EpsilonRider ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/Whyisithardforadultstomakefriends
Clareto ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:53:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Congrats, now you have no friends
Emuuuuuuu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty much the only thing we do have control over. Somebody can hold you down and move your limbs for you, but nobody can force you to speak... it's always your choice.
nakedsexypoohbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But for real, stop having a shitty yard, kids, and friends.
Worstname1ever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Caveat. If a detective calls you. Say you'll be happy to talk in the presence of your attorney. That's it. Then immediately get an attorney. Even if you don't know why. Don't say anything. Don't talk on jail phones other then to say please bail me out.
fromcj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The best way Iโve heard it explained:
If youโre wearing a watch and someone asks if you know what time it is, you answer โYes.โ
capebretonpost- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You needed a lawyer to explain this?
TurbulentDivide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad had a good saying to nosey people, he would say: "Now if you're writing a book, why don't you just leave that chapter out?"
ObsidianLion ยท 240 points ยท Posted at 00:43:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a marriage destroying way of approaching communication. XD
ValorousVagabond ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 02:54:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't how you communicate with loved ones. It's a good, strong policy for communication in your professional life or in important matters. Who doesn't know how to modulate their tone to fit the situation?
Yallsomehoes1776 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:07:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the adult public, I think. Not disagreeing with you, just saying most people arenโt too bright.
clubsoda420 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:17:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That much is clear by the almost intentional misunderstanding of OPs point.
rusty_people_skills ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:29:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The "Careers & Work" tag is very relevant. In relationships (established relationships, not a 1st date), trust is really important and you, the other person, and your relationship with each other will all benefit from the other person knowing how/why you think/do things. Unless you've got that level of personal investment, though, brevity is your friend.
sillypickle09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
WELCOME TO REDDIT
Emuuuuuuu ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 01:38:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In a successful marriage you gotta build and maintain trust... which often requires saying things that are hard to say.
I guess that means you are still only sharing what you have to, but you kind of have to share a bit more if you want it to work.
ObsidianLion ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 01:58:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Disregarding honesty and problem solving, Iโm talking about fun conversation and engagement! I WANT my partner to tell me the silly things that go through her mind. The mundane thoughts. Thatโs how I know I am being trusted and leaned on. I myself like to throw shocking statements to see peopleโs reactions. Those statements are extras as well. We are talking about crucial ingredients to happiness here. ๐
Emuuuuuuu ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:16:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I was just having fun reframing the idea but I totally agree with you.
In a sense, saying the minimum is the safest course of action but it would be a life deprived of adventure. We learn/grow more when we take risks and make mistakes. Other people get to know us more too!
I find I feel way less lonely when I'm being intentionally honest and open. When I die, people will know who I really am, not some filtered down and naively curated clip show of what I thought was relevant. That's the idea anyways.
untethered_eyeball ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
youโre a breathe of fresh air, oh my god
ObsidianLion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If youโre a girl, I know itโs rough out there finding guys who can paint pictures by talking, and make the heart go through a rollercoaster of fun emotions with proper choice of words and ideas, but I hope you catch one eventually. ๐ค
untethered_eyeball ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
thankfully, iโm a girl, but iโm mainly into other girls lol. still! i can be happy when i see a guy express some genuine affection for their partner. itโs so rare to see that, all you see is negativity and angry, gritted teeth jokes and no one allows themselves to be kind and soft for a moment. so itโs refreshing
ObsidianLion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Do lesbians have this issue where communication is dryer than a desert? One would think with females naturally being more talkative, itโs one of the problems you donโt face as much. I imagine bedtime talks that go on for hours with both of the girls giggling and bonding. ๐
Am I being naive in my assumptions? ๐ค
untethered_eyeball ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
no no actually, itโs the opposite lol. women are mostly brought up to be emotional caregivers, itโs a tough expectation thatโs pushed on us since weโre young. so it follows that many women grow up to have good emotional intelligence and are very competent at sustaining conversations and offering support. (this is obviously generalizing, and itโs a result of an expectation, iโm not saying men are worse at it. just that generally theyโre pushed to close off their feelings instead, so they grow up that way)
mostly iโm just happy that are men out there who are willing to take on that emotional support role as well. and to be honest and take pride in it! it makes me happy just because, even if iโm most likely not about to date them lol. itโs just nice to know for my straight sisters, yknow? iโm happy for yโall
ObsidianLion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre a good person. I wish you all the best, you and your girlfriend, and thanks for satiating my curiosity. ๐
Gpotato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I would end a relationship if I felt the person was being reserved about info. In my book its a serious breach of trust to regularly do this, and it proves shit character to do it in that close of a relationship.
Your boss isn't your friend, your coworker isn't you friend, your family isn't always your friend, your neighbor isn't even your friend. However if you cannot be open with your friends and chosen family?
Yup you better find some good close-minded people because that shit is the bread and butter of toxic people.
jooshpak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
She still doesn't know my real name hehe
Emuuuuuuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's Joseph isn't it!
majorawardwinner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Umm, do you guys know each other?
Emuuuuuuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hope not? Although they seem like an honest decent fella to me.
johnfox13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What the OP is suggesting isnโt good with relationships- lie through omission
https://www.aconsciousrethink.com/6477/lie-of-omission/
Emuuuuuuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree. Even the examples given were taking advantage of a situation through dishonest means.
I was just playing around with framing their idea in different ways.
wilsonism ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:46:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Trust me. They don't want to know everything.
a-breakfast-food ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:54:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If your spouse is going to be upset when they hear it. You should tell them it.
Though be mindful of the timing. And if there's drama in motion sometimes it is best to let it settle instead of needlessly stressing them.
wilsonism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh timing is everything. But if you're doing bullshit to fuck up your marriage, you're not exactly shooting for a fairytale ending.
MrBurnz99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just deny everything, even when confronted with irrefutable evidence. Do so confidently that they start to question their own perception of reality.
wilsonism ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:11:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gaslighting
SpookyNinjas ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:58:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Right, as if my wife wants to know about all the hookers I'm banging
limonlemons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
She'd probably be furious if she knew I hooked up with some guy's dead wife
PokeYa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ehh... that seems a little forced. After thoughtful deliberation, I have decided that I will not upvote or downvote you. Although the neutrality of my decision had no direct impact, let it be known that my judgement was passed.
wilsonism ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:11:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I know, right?
PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I thought this was professional sector...
ObsidianLion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:31:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the professional sector as well. No one will trust and promote someone they donโt know.
TheBestRapperAlive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think weโre more talking about things like calling in sick.
Good example: โI apologize for the inconvenience but I will not be making it to the office today as I do not feel wellโ
Bad example: โI canโt come in today because Iโve been up all night puking and shitting my pants.โ
Unnecessary info is just that: unnecessary. It doesnโt make me know you better because you described in detail how many times liquid came out of your ass last night.
ObsidianLion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs true, but OP didnโt talk of it like that, specifying a unique place for such wisdom.
Lt-Dans-New-Legs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As with most pieces of advice, you can't apply that to literally all facets of your life.
xXGuyFieroXx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
are you married to the police?
ObsidianLion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, I just know how it feels to date people who make you feel like you are pulling their teeth when you ask questions, and they act as if talking hurts them.
paul-arized ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Spouse 1: "did you take out the trash?"
Spouse 2: [silence]
MrsFoober ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People need to learn to know when to apply what. People think way too much in "one size fits all" kind of way. Context matters people. Of course you're gonna explain yourself to your partner if it's needed.
noratat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, this is how you communicate with people you care about, it's how you communicate with people you're in potential conflict with. I.e. professional/business, legal, people you don't want in your life, etc.
PineappleRainbowBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's a reason this wasn't posted in relationship pro tips.
The_cogwheel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but a wife or girlfriend wont have a vested interest in using the information you give them to screw you over. And if they did, then the relationship was doomed long before it got there.
Cops want you to confess to crimes - that makes their job easier.
Coworkers want you to admit that you smoke pot - that gives them an edge when its time for a promotion.
Insurance companies want you to admit to that speeding ticket you got 10 years ago - it gives them a reason to raise your rates.
Your girlfriend wants to know your secrets - because it makes it easier for her to trust you with hers.
ObsidianLion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People think I meant that you should be a blabbermouth, but I meant that being secretive is bad. I never said you should reveal things that make you look bad, just that you wonโt get far by sticking to what you are asked.
IShitOnYourPost ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:57:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not if you start from the beginning like this. There won't be any unrealistic expectations of openness.
ObsidianLion ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:23:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Man, no one likes to date the guy who acts like a military member under interrogation.
She:โHmm, I really love this juice they call calamansi. It reminds me of my grandmother. Itโs soothing in a way. Do you ever feel like that about a food?โ
Him:โYes. Bacon.โ
She:โI loved John Wick 3! Halle Berryโs scenes offered a refreshing take on combat, mixing up the established shoot-kill action scenes the franchise is known for. He shot my dog! -I get it. Hahahahaha, hilarious! Did you love a certain scene?โ
Him:โThe part where they stitch his shoulder.โ
People who stick to the necessary are boring as fuck long-term. Opinions flesh you out.
Warped25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah! I couldnโt agree with you more! Iโve found the tight lipped folks mostly to be either control freaks, ultra competitive people, or apathetic. I stay away from all 3. No warmth, no color.
flyingwolf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:20:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing I am not married to a cop.
After all, if I was there would be a 40% chance I would be getting my ass beat.
ruthbuzzi4prez ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:30:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What you tell your wife isn't admissible.
SlimyScrotum ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:47:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think it needs to be made clear that this is a good rule for legal/professional matters, but not great advice to carry into relationships and interactions.
A lot of people might read this thread and interpret it as, "don't let anyone in, and act as if everyone wants to hurt you." This mentality has been very harmful, so I think the distinction should be made.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That is for loved ones. This one is for people outside the circle
mnmkdc ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:41:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're actually trying to build any sort of relationship with people. I feel like this tip is pretty specific to ops scenario
momcitrus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:20:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still trying to master this.
Psypherus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:48:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In order:
Does it have to be said?
Does it have to be said by me?
Does it have to be said by me now?
RoboNerdOK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:12:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Care to elaborate on that?
michaelpaulbryant ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:20:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Discretion, not deception.
They overslept and missed their interview. What is pertinent is the missed interview so by simply being discrete they were able to reschedule without provoking any unnecessary conflict.
PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a similar situation once : overslept and missed phone interview.
I called back, apologized in my voicemail, and gave them new availability. They ghosted me.
Fucking accleron
wilsonism ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:19:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nope
RoboNerdOK ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:24:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
PASS
snora41 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The answer to โDid you eat breakfast this morning?โ is โYesโ, not โYes. I had Cheerios.โ
UlyssesRambo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Check out The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene. Itโs the one book I recommend to people when one of the Laws I remember from his book comes up.
Hereโs an image of the laws.
Book Summary
Thebigbeerski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:07:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Plausible deniability!
abombweiabu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:29:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
this is something I'm working on. I do comedy, so truth is so much a part of it, but there's still a razors edge balance between truth and discretion that I need to walk.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Comedy? You have my attention.
abombweiabu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
All I'm saying is that in the field of entertainment, it's hard to be discrete, as comedy and tragedy come from truth. Artists naturally are more public due to their discipline. Yet it's still important to try and be discrete.... sigh, what a hard balance.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense. The best comedy is brutally honest. Make privacy a real bitch.
BeyondEthereal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:36:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lying by omission is a thing and is often just as damning as outright lying.
Foothpick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your words short and sweet, youโll never know which ones youโll have to eat.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking love it. Never heard it like that.
hugganao ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a person currently working, this 100%.
wilsonism ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's life changing.
Funkshow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And donโt be afraid to apologize
wilsonism ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:30:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always admit fault if it's yours.
Rocka101_86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One Republic Enters the chat โItโs tooooooo laaaaaaaaaateโ
Justsin7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who has been deposed a lot because of my job... I have always compared it to playing a game called โmarbles.โ Basically...... your job is to hang on to S many as you can in any exchange that can be litigious.
BoutTreeeFiddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And definitely never tell them where you hid the bodies
eldoctoro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
cries in ADHD
44problems ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oliver Babish:ย Do you know what time it is?
C.J. Cregg:ย It's five past noon.
Oliver Babish:ย I'd like you to get out of the habit of doing that.
C.J. Cregg:ย Doing what?
Oliver Babish:ย Answering more than was asked.
Oliver Babish:ย Do you know what time it is?
C.J. Cregg:ย Yes.
BigBobby2016 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I had to lose thousands of dollars to learn this. I couldn't sell my first house in 2008, but wanted to move to a town with a better HS for my son. I pulled permits and was getting the house ready for renting after I moved.
While getting the rough inspections I mentioned to the inspector I'd moved to a nearby town with an amazing high school. At that point he took my permit away because an owner could only do the work if they occupied the house.
Once I'd moved I had to hire professionals to do the work, costing literally thousands. I was pretty much broke having spent everything on moving too, so it took a long time to be able to afford to make it rentable.
But he never even asked a question about it during the inspection. I was just babbling to kill time while he checked stuff
Sneakysteve ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's important to clarify this should definitely NOT be a rule of thumb for general social interaction.
Specific circumstances like job interviews, police interactions... pretty much any situation where technicalities matter, absolutely do this. In personal relationships the omission of information can be just as bad as lying.
If you cheat on your GF, you're not being "honest" if she just never asks you explicitly if you're cheating or not.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but if you're that kind of person, you're pretty much a piece of shit anyway. Life is mostly about what works in the situation. There's no 100% perfect strategy.
Drizzt-mislahd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Depends what context you're talking about. If you do this in a friendship or intimate relationship, or even professional relationships, there is absolutely such a thing as "lying by omission"
arvhult ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is also a common realization one gets somewhere between one's early twenties and one's late twenties. I used to be strong opinioned and stand up for justice a LOT, and voice my opinion freely, but later it became routine to ponder consequences more before speaking
500dollarsunglasses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โDo you know why I pulled you over? Because I havenโt got a clue.โ
ISaidGoodDey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/relationshipadvice
FishLampClock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great example they explain to a potential witness in a lawsuit, for example, "do you know the color of my shirt?" the answer is, yes, not the color of the shirt.
FallingPepper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Slowly learning this one lol. Unfortunately, my personality is obsessed with understanding/explaining things... A one-second pause sometimes feels like several, and I suddenly start spewing information to fill the silence ๐คฃ
Professor226 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Youโve said too much.
Sumocolt768 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What if they ask a specific question?
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's up to you.
ButtWieghtThiersMoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
....
migf1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
MrPeppa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thats why my resume out of college just said B.S. from my university. Everyone assumed it was in Comp Sci given the jobs I was applying for. Little did they know they hired someone with a B.S. in Biology!
wilsonism ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:52:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. Biology. The bastard stepchild of stem degrees.
babaganate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Applies to everything except discharge permits
allothernamestaken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an attorney, and it feels like this sums up 90% of my job.
Ihaveaboot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Likewise when dealing with auditors. I have to provide evidence and answer questions during my companies yearly IT process audit. I learned to be concise and only answer the exact question being asked. Offering and additional detail just gives them more strings to pull at.
SnoopDodgy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Know when to hold em, know when to fold em.
wilsonism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Know when to walk away, and know when to RUN!
saladTOSSIN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
100% opened this thread expecting OPs story to be related to law enforcement. Truly does apply to everything
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not your solemate, or anyone you truly care about, but everything else, yeah.
saladTOSSIN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wife asks how poker night went last night do you say "fun! Had a good time" or "we got obliterated and had a little fight club in the backyard" A lil omission in that regard never hurt anyone
DoctorWaluigiTime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
At the same time: Don't be a dick and go full Sovereign Citizen on everyone. Judge the situation and don't just be "herp derp I will achieve maximum efficiency if I treat every interaction like some high-stakes Poker game."
snora41 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Am attorney - more or less my first piece of advice to any client being deposed
adprom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Who shot you,
No one shot me.
sidepart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is pretty much the rule when dealing with any contract design review or audit. Yes, no, good question, I'm not 100% sure so I will take that down and follow up with you.
PlainBlackTs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for repeating the post
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It was super effective
whydoyoucrysomuch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially true when talking to any form of law enforcement. Anything you say can incriminate you.
Boggfog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Technically if you dont say the whole truth you are still lying by omission.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, how much detail does the whole truth need?
urmumbigegg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Personally I think the bigger omission is India.
emotional_alien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've been learning this recently. I'm especially bad about apologizing for things I didn't do, but I'm getting better.
SouthernCricket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
P-p-p-poker face, p-p-poker face (mum-mum-mum-mah)
P-p-p-poker face, p-p-poker face (mum-mum-mum-mah)
kliff916 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah just like that tv show about candadian border patrol
Some idiot told the cops he smokes weed and got a fucking lifetime ban for volunteering information lmao.
I shit u not, he was labeled a drug user and banned from entering country without doing extra shit in the future like filing paperwork etc.
I laughed my ass off, he answered truthfully and got fucked. Look it up
Itโs hilarious
Edit: from my hazy memory of a few years ago
It went something like this.
CBPO( Canadian border patrol officer) WG (weed guy)
CBPO: have you ever done drugs? WG: yeah I smoked some weed here and there CBPO: do you still buy weed or offer to any friends? WG; I have sold some to my friends mom and my friend.
Something like that and he got labeled a drug user and lifetime banned from entering Canada.
It was obviously a bit different, the encounter, but thatโs the gist of it. He didnโt have to say anything but offered up information that was extra and unnecessary. In his case it got him anally fucked lol
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that one.
kliff916 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You mean youโve seen it ?
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't see it, but I've heard the story before.
kliff916 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh haha. Man that was the most memorable episode from that tv show.
Like this dude was being honest and offering up so much extra info that it did him more harm then he expected. I bet you his honest days are over lol
ProbablyHighAsShit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Day 1 training for sales reps.
surp_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't know the person, only offer up information that is requested, not information you think might be helpful.
ShadowHawk045 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you write for CNN?
established1983 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Advice someone gave me, ironically from a guy who wonโt quit talking. โAnswer the question directly as possible, no elaboration, then stop talkingโ. We were in a self assessment interview from corporate. I have a bad habit of justifying things when not required.
That being said. When you do interview for a job, often these behavioral type interview questions are designed to get you talking to find your tru character and motivations. These type questions cant be dodged, thoughtful and responses are required.
StandardVandal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so bad at this. How do I get better?
SpaceJackRabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
This. I'm in the U.S. where by law, most types of discrimination are illegal, yet remain rampant.
My advantage: I'm a white male. But I never mention my family before, during and after the interview (where small talk may happen). Sometimes, if I feel the culture is biased towards younger uncommitted workers (which is often the case as I work in tech), I don't even wear my wedding ring.
Work, professional experience, styles, skills, accomplishments, sure. Anything outside work I keep to myself, and I will only provide some personal information if I feel it will give me a leg up, for instance allowing me to relate to the interviewer.
Oh, saw you drove a Subaru. So do I! I Have the same shoes! Family-oriented company? I might disclose I have a kid. Companies where volunteering is part of the core values? I'll mention a few non-profits I help with (in fact if you're pretty committed in that department it generally is seen as a major plus).
But those are exceptions. OP is spot on, and never go into too much detail. Same with your location, for instance. Some companies want people who are close to the workplace. If they ask where you live, you can try "Oh, it's an easy 30 minute drive", even if it's a fucking lie. You can always relocate if you get the job. Unethical? Maybe a bit. But don't expect most employers to grant you the same courtesy. I know so many people who lost their job because they were told "Now you can't work remotely anymore", or "Your job is moving to Nebraska, so if you want to keep it, you gotta move there within a month".
tannerdanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's a scene in the tv show the west wing that nails this concept. The chief white House Counsel asks the press secretary if she knew the time. She said "3:00" and he said the correct answer is "yes".
I'm paraphrasing but it always stuck with me.
DemascusSeal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Um, today's humanity complex is to lie to get ahead as long as you do it right. No one that's a CEO / high level management has and will lie to keep their status. Only way to beat them is to become them, that is if you don't believe in any meta physical situation. And still we wonder how we fucked this up so bad...
awesomeone6044 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โDonโt use seven words when four will doโ -Rusty Ryan (Oceans Eleven)
ishouldjustreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule 8: Tell the truth or at least dont lie.
airplane-driver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Negotiating 101
DomLite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a D&D player, Iโve mastered the art of saying exactly the truth in ways that will pass a lie detection spell when in actuality the whole truth would have us arrested on the spot. โWeโre here on private business for the captain of the city guardโ gets us in. They donโt need to know that this private business is a mission to assassinate the queen.
Likewise in my everyday job Iโm very fond of the phrase โWeโre addressing the issue to the full extent of our abilityโ. You donโt need to know that the full extent of our ability is โwe wrote an email asking the offending party to knock it off and thatโs all we can do.โ
ATXBeermaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of one of my favorite jokes:
arachno10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I wish I had read this two hours ago.
Just got back from an interviewer that had me talking about my drinking problems in the military within like 2 minutes.
Ironically now I REALLY want a drink.
Ugh.
wilsonism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hang in there, live and learn.
Dev0rp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminder that not telling the truth is not lying.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not being super chatty is a thing.
mdizzle872 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can I upvote times 100?
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My inbox is on fire
ThreeDubWineo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Speak low, speak slow, and don't say too much
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most people stop listening
ourdystopia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This can easily ride the fine line of deception though, and is that technically a form of lying? By leaving out certain information you could totally change the context of something and deceive somebody intentionally, which is no different than a lie.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Perception vs truth
bambina999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Me in therapy lol
ICameHereForClash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm pretty sure thatโs omission, though.
Pro tip, but not quite ethical
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Intentional omission of important facts is one thing, but I'll rarely offer more than is asked.
anooblol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had an acquaintance in college that was going through legal issues with the school. She asked me for advice. I told her, โJust donโt say anything, you didnโt do anything wrong, and thereโs no proof anyway. Just say absolutely nothing.โ
She was concerned that they would come to an incorrect conclusion if she didnโt provide context.
She provided โcontextโ, got nervous, said the wrong things, and got expelled from school.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yep
Sbhill327 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This has helped me at work a lot. Good tip!
pounceapex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Despite what my mother told me as a child.
Non-disclosure is not a lie.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't lie, but don't offer more than they asked. If they are concerned about a detail, they'll ask.
pm_ur_cameltoe_plz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man. I have a great story about that. When I was 18, I filled out a ton of online applications one day. Nothing pans out, so I keep trying and living life. Months later, I get a call from Circuit City and they want me to come in for an interview. I go in for the interview and halfway through, the interviewer asks me about the story behind me saving someoneโs life while at a restaurant. I have no clue what heโs talking about, so I kind of play it coy and fish for more information. He says, โyea, here on your paperwork you told a story of how you saved a guys life while eating at a restaurant. Says you gave him CPR!โ
I had been smoking a lot of pot at the time of applying, so apparently I thought itโd be funny to make up some story with the thought process being Iโd be able to remember and fill in the details if asked. So I just started going off what he said and added a bunch of extra made up shit, making me sound like a hero. He bought it and I got the job, but I learned a valuable lesson that day. If youโre gonna lie, make sure you have the story down pat going in. On second thought, itโs probably best to not lie at all.
PinacoladaSauce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And if you lie... lie in the arms of the one you love
Coldfyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm gonna be a teacher. This sounds like a horrible idea.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Delete all social media now, future teacher.
Coldfyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Facebook is set to unsearchable and Iโm very careful to not give any identifiable information on other mediums. Thanks for the tip though!
james___bondage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
lies of omission are still lies
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If someone is concerned about a detail, they'll ask about it. I don't know what's important to you.
james___bondage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
would you use this logic to justify not telling a spouse you were seeing someone else? because they didn't ask?
c'mon, this is bull. in most social situations it's somewhat obvious when certain information you have is relevant or pertinent. withholding something you know would be something the other person would want to know and would damage your reputation is a lie of omission. that doesn't mean you should be an open book and always tell everyone everything about you because that's just not realistic, but you're kidding yourself if you try to pretend like it's not lying
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Context is everything.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You know, given your awesome screen name, I was a bit disappointed by your posts.
james___bondage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well Iโd be committing a lie of omission if I didnโt say that made me a little sad
How did I disappoint you?
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was half expecting kinky stuff. Also, you see a lie of omission. In the context of selling real estate, or dealing with relationship issues, sure.
Late for work? Sorry, I running late I'll be there as soon as possible. Vs. I got drunk/ high and was still fucked up this morning, that's why I'm late. One context, you're a sociopath, one you're an idiot.
james___bondage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I mean sure, and thatโs why I said I donโt recommend being an open book, we must recognize that lies of omission play a legitimate part in our lives, but they are still lies
Kingsley93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The โneed-to-knowโ principle.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly.
Elwalther21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was driving one afternoon and stumbled a upon a bad accident on a bad road. I pulled over and tried to help. These two cars hit head on and it was bad. One car traveling north on the road made a left turn into her driveway cutting of a car driving south.
The south bound driver was completely unconscious. He woke up a few minutes after we were knocking on his door. Once the police arrived the passenger in the north bound car kept saying that it's the driver in the south bound cars fault because he didnt slow down when his mom went to turn into their driveway.
The teen didnt really know that he was essentially putting his mom at fault by telling this to the police. I'd I remember she broke her nose on her airbag and didnt remember much either. Anyways just answer what you're being asked.
zomboromcom ยท 2144 points ยท Posted at 00:41:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Further: if you must offer a reason, offer one. If you're late because of traffic, a sick cat, and a miscommunication, pick one. You know what three sound like? Excuses, even if they're all true.
datheffguy ยท 587 points ยท Posted at 01:55:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My boss will get annoyed at people making excuses for being late, but once I texted him โI fucked up and overslept, I will be in asapโ and he just thanked me for my honesty and didnโt care.
As long as you arenโt consistently late being honest works unless your boss is a dick.
ninjaelk ยท 200 points ยท Posted at 02:32:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
True, but in most circumstances "I'm running late, I will be in the office in ~20 minutes" works just as well. The problem with giving un-prompted excuses is the onus is now on your boss to make it clear that your excuse does not absolve you of responsibility, and that's obnoxious to have to do. In your case acknowledging your responsibility with "I fucked up" has a similar effect, but it's usually in your best interest to avoid saying overly negative things about yourself.
In your case it sounds like it might have helped, definitely a judgment call depending on how well you know your boss.
elsjpq ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 06:28:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
See this is what I don't get.
People treat explanations and context as excuses when they're clearly not used to avoid responsibility. Telling you what caused an accident obviously isn't the same as claiming it wasn't my fault, but it's like they're totally blind to the difference.
And context is always important in any situation, and giving someone the whole picture is a gesture of trust and respect. I only withhold information when I'm trying to get away with it.
But it's like people just want someone to point a finger at, and don't even care about fixing the problem, which requires understanding the underlying causes.
ShillerFSU ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 07:01:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so happy Iโm not the only one that feels this way. All my life this has bugged me. There is a difference between an โexcuseโ and a โreasonโ. Saying โI forgot to set an alarmโ isnโt excusing your behavior, itโs just literally the reason you were late.
Faldricus ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 08:51:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the word 'excuse'. I don't 'give excuses', I 'provide reasoning'.
What really grinds my gears is those exchanges where someone literally asks why a thing occurred, and then when you give them an answer, they call it an excuse.
I just... I wanna throw them out the window. Honestly. Why even ASK me that? Makes me wanna tear my hair out.
ninjaelk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:45:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone views things the same way though, there are plenty of people who think "well as long as I presented an excuse that could be interpreted as not my fault, it therefore is not my fault". And these people aren't often terrible people all around, sometimes otherwise good workers can have some quirks.
It certainly does require understanding the underlying causes to fix a problem, however a manager only has so much willpower/focus to get through the day and when there's plenty of job related issues at hand that adds up quick before adding the reason why you're late. Ideally you want your manager to be able to trust that you will fix your issues and that she doesn't have to be involved in every last one of them.
Limiting your manager's exposure to problems that their attention isn't required to fix is one of the most efficient ways at making their lives easier. Making their job easier I think is the greatest gesture of trust and respect. If they want to know more, for whatever reason, they'll ask. When they do feel free to dump the whole picture on them.
Elesday ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:50:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When a student comes late to class and just tells me "Sorry I'm late", I don't have anything to add. When it's "sorry I'm late, I overslept and then the traffic was terrible" it's either an excuse but not a good one, either context I don't need or care about.
It can only be used to paint you in a bad light. But I suffer the same thing: I had to send an email to the whole class right this morning because I was running late. I initially typed "I'm gonna be late, sorry buses are on strike." but changed it because it really isn't useful except giving the impression that I have valid excuses to be late.
elsjpq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I see the first response as an admission of guilt. Because oversleeping is their responsibility. And I wouldn't voluntarily admit guilt to someone I don't respect.
The second is only interpreted as an excuse if you don't trust the speaker. If you do, then it explains why you couldn't've come earlier, as opposed to oversleeping or you just don't care which is what I'd assume if you just said nothing. So I'd actually respect you more for that, not less.
When people only give the bare minimum of required information, I feel like they're hiding something incriminating.
CactusPearl21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If we're talking about the late form work scenario, then it depends on your boss.
If your boss is me, then giving me explanations and context is either A) irrelevant and you're wasting my time, or B) trying to make excuses.
If your boss cares, then maybe sharing is best. But I don't care.
VoxDolorum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:59 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Super late response but this thread popped up in my feed. Iโve been on the end of being โin chargeโ of others in a work environment and think I can offer some insight here. The problem with explanations, even great ones that offer context, is that it can be difficult to determine if itโs in good faith or not.
And ultimately what matters to the person in charge are actions. First action; are you taking responsibility for whatever happened, weather it was within your control or not? Second action; are you going to fix it / what are you doing to fix it? Third action; is this going to happen again or are you talking steps to prevent it from happening again?
All three of these might not apply perfectly to all situations. But it just really doesnโt matter what the context is, it doesnโt change what actions need to be taken. If it was a family emergency or a meteor blew up the bridge during your commute or you simply just overslept it ultimately doesnโt matter. If you just say that you acknowledge there was an issue, that youโre fixing it actively and it wonโt happen again then thatโs all they need to hear.
If anything offer context later on after everything has been resolved if your working relationship is appropriate for it. And of course this isnโt be all end all, judgement according to the personality of the person youโre dealing with and your relationship with them is always necessary.
I just donโt think that bosses are always trying to be unempathetic by not wanting explanations. Itโs just that you have some employees that you trust and some you know are going to be full of shit 99% of the time, and itโs far better to just treat everyone similarly than to pick and choose who youโre going to give the benefit of the doubt to in what situations. If you already trust someone then you really donโt need a bunch of extra context and explanations anyway. Youโre just going to trust that they had a good reason for whatever happened and that theyโre going to do what they can to resolve any issues.
theycallmebelle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:52:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To add to this, if you are consistently late, maybe it's time to ask about shifting your working hours later in the day.
I know not all companies allow for this, but if someone on my team is regularly having trouble coming in on time or is always exhausted when they get in, I'll of course talk with them about it, but often it's just that they have a different sleep schedule and need to come in 10-6 instead of 9-5 or whatever. Really it's just honest communication I think most managers want. We're humans too!
Nmvfx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I missed an interview because I overslept (I was supposed to be the interviewer rather than the interviewee). I was totally honest and said exactly what you did and it's been an ongoing joke since that nobody worries about. I've never missed another interview.
Gavcradd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:24:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This - I'm a UK teacher and have some students consistently late to class, every single day. Often someone who is late will moan at me that I'm treating them differently than someone else who arrived at the same time and is therefore also late - too right I am, you're late for the 3rd time this week, this is the other person's first late mark this year.
somewitchbitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had something similar happen. I once slept through all of my alarms to get up for work (I had to get up at 3:30am for work) and woke up right as my shift was staring. Called to say I would be late, got there and apologized for it. I never got in any trouble for it because it was a one time thing in the entire 2 years I worked there.
dpc_22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:28 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's a fine line between reasoning and excuses and most people just don't get it. They ask you why and you tell them the reason and they'll still consider that you are making excuses. Last time it happened I just said "if you want to believe, you believe it. Can't help you with that."
Heartbypass5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:43 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I walked into work late once and the boss yells out โhey, your five minutes lateโ, and I snapped back โok, Iโll leave five minutes earlier to make up for itโ.
podcastman ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 02:11:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I ran outta gas. I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from outta town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, a terrible flood, locust's. It wasn't my fault!! I swear to God!!"
Fischkaster ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:06:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This! Thank you for using this classic scene as an example. It demonstrates OP's intent perfectly. RIP John Belushi.
honeybeedreams ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:46:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โawwww jakeโ
Minirogue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I recognized this, but couldn't place it without the context. I guess it's time to watch this movie again.
CptGia ยท 389 points ยท Posted at 01:42:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is something that bothers me so much. The problem was not in any other mild inconveniences, it was in the combination!
ninjaelk ยท 361 points ยท Posted at 02:20:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then say that.
"Why were you late?"
"Three different relatively minor things that wouldn't be problems on their own combined to make me late"
GCPMAN ยท 139 points ยท Posted at 02:54:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I find "I had to take a massive shit" works well.
GraveSalad ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 03:53:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've said "I took time to wipe today" and have never been questioned on being late again.
Bluelabel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:55:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It was like wiping a magic market
digitalmofo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:11:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do they sell carpets?
Waffle_bastard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:31:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Look at this fancy asshole over here.
hotpajamas ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:24:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I have diarrhea as we speak, goodbye".
TabbyFoxHollow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the old โwomanly issuesโ card - works equally well with male and female superiors for different reasons
TheGreatRandolph ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:17:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Got out of a speeding ticket for that.
Also was followed to the nearest exit, into the gas station, and luckily for me, I indeed needed to take a post massive amounts of tequila shit. Iโm sorry for what that officer walked into when I left the bathroom.
MediocRedditor ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:40:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the other day I was late to work. Funnily, I had gotten up early that day because I wanted to be early.
First came the fire poops. I was on the toilet forever. No big deal, Iโve still got time.
Then my wifeโs car had a flat. NBD, plenty of time
Then there was an accident on the freeway. Getting close...
Then there was a second accident. Presto. Now Iโm late for work.
20-random-characters ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:59:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
*An unspecified number of different relatively minor things...
cinnamoncassia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
*stuff
northernlightsorbust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also acceptable: ยฏ\(ใ)/ยฏ
Iggyhopper ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:48:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"When it rains, it pours, and everything had to happen today at the wrong time." Works too
eveningsand ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:10:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A: You wouldn't believe me if I told you.
Vitalstatistix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:32:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, donโt say that. Itโs weird. If someone said that to me I would be inclined to think they were prone to being unreliable.
ninjaelk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone's got their own type of rapport, what might seem weird to you and your boss may be perfectly reasonable to me. Use your own words, maybe something like "All kinds of shit happened, i'd be happy to lay it all out for you", or whatever else seems normal to you (again, only if you don't feel comfortable only naming one of the things as your reason).
Spenge ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:39:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I arrived at the wrong time. I assure you this is uncommon thank you for covering.
Nodebunny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
that's still saying too much
Fluwyn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:56:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I say 'It's a combination of factors' and usually people leave it at that.
ColourfulFunctor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:19:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The truth is that it doesnโt really matter why youโre late. Itโs more important to give the impression that you care about being late and are willing to take responsibility for being late. Giving reasons accomplishes neither of these. I know you want to give reasons because you think it makes you look better, but it does the opposite most of the time.
Energylegs23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:07:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gestalt
carlsberg24 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:24:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is, if so many bad things happen you at the same time then the common denominator is you.
gracem5 ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 00:58:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Old boss rule: more than one reason is always a lie.
a-breakfast-food ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 02:07:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's a dumb rule. Most things are caused by a combination of factors.
Not to say you should list them all out. But assuming something is a lie because someone did is not helpful.
oicnow ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:32:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
a lot of people seem to want to over simplify complex real world truths into these bite sized axioms and cute phrases that may or may not actually be accurate
TabbyFoxHollow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:06:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve heard when people are lying they tend to add more unnecessary details. Part of it is to flesh out the story, especially if theyโre lying on the spot. The other part is almost like a mindfuck to convince themselves thatโs what really happened, and they add the details because it sounds more believable to them but it actually doesnโt sound organic.
digitalmofo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, sounds like my boss.
YouJustReadBullShit ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:56:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same with amending a story.
The_Ruke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:02:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Only one reason is "because you planned poorly"
ThatSmokedThing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:52:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, I got hit by a couple of cars...
Taminella_Grinderfal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:21:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I attended a training recently that touched on โvictimโ mentality. Blaming traffic is โvictimโ because you could have left earlier. I donโt know that I totally agree because unexpected shit happens, but I did make me more thoughtful about โexcusesโ
SkulletonKo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:12:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best excuse I've heard by a colleague - sorry I'm late, I didn't leave early enough.
saranowitz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Common for liars to offer multiple reasons too.
galient5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be scared to take one on the chin. If you messed up, apologize, give a reason if necessary, and say you understand the problem at hand. Everyone makes mistakes. Offering up excuses, and trying to downplay the severity of your roll in the mistake almost never works out.
When I was promoted to a shift manager at my current job, there was a bit of a shift going on. The boss sent a message to everyone saying that he had seen little, if anything to be impressed about at our store. Even though I had been a manager for all of two days, I was the only one that texted back. I said that I understood the issues he brought up, and that they wouldn't be issues going forward. I could have easily ignored the text, because it wasn't really directed at me, and more at the other managers, but I heard from other people that he really liked that I accepted the blame, and showed that I would work towards fixing the problems he had.
Shadopamine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is so true.
LAXbro___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Look alive Halpert
pknk6116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"my phone died in the night"
"plus your message was garbled when I listened to it."
"wait shit.'
theRealBatman21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
sorry i had to take a huge dump then ran out of toilet paper, threw up cause of the smell, showered. then feel asleep... are you still hiring?
dpc_22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:26 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Once entered a lab session 30 mins late in uni.
Lecturer: "why are you late?"
Me: "woke up late"
She didn't ask anything after that. Everyone giggled but meh I didn't have to have a long conversation
olaisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:56 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Let them ask you why youโre late. Until then, donโt bother with excuses. If they ask you, only give an excuse if itโs a real excuse - sick kid, left something at home. Traffic is not an excuse.
Also, everyone misses things and everyone is late once in a while, itโs only a problem if itโs habitual. Donโt allow them to get off on their lateness, make it clear they have also been late if they make it seem like your one off is habitual. Make sure they understand theyโre on equal footing if itโs a coworkers and respectful if itโs a boss.
If youโre habitually late, you suck.
PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Man I've been saying the same thing: there's too many excuses in the workplace these days.
If something came up I would always keep it simple and apologize to my boss for being late or request a day off, etc. That's it.
Now if the conversation continued to an informal one and my boss was curious if everything is alright then I would go ahead and divulge more info. But that was off the record.
beatofblackwings ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Since when do jobs not require an on the record reason for being tardy?
PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It was flex hours at pfizer, and in this situation I was late for a meeting.
refreshbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
If you offer even one, people still think you're full of shit. Don't speak on advice you're not qualified to give.
BizzyM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I always have to preface my answers with "Do you understand the difference between an excuse and an explanation?"
Cause most people don't know the difference. They assume any reasoning given is an excuse. I can't stand these people.
little_shop_of_hoors ยท 7633 points ยท Posted at 01:29:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why say lot word when few word do trick
Deeper_Into_Madness ยท 2875 points ยท Posted at 01:56:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Few word best
donth8urm8 ยท 1830 points ยท Posted at 02:10:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gold
that_stoner_guy ยท 958 points ยท Posted at 02:44:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
yo-homie-big-nesh ยท 541 points ยท Posted at 02:55:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โ
N64_Grill ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:20:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โโ
reydrian88 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:14:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Empty string wins
DecentraNet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:05:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/decreasinglyverbose
the_loose_thread ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:56:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's probably the best conversation I've seen on reddit so far.
Great minds battling it out... and I've got a front-roll seat
DaddyKro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:37:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LukariBRo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:49:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You say that like they aren't on a ton of mdma right now
the_loose_thread ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:39:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LOL thanks for pointing that out. my bad English showing itself to reddit
Pupupupupupupupu3000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Man, do i have a sub for you:
r/decreasinglyverbose
dylangolfcode360 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:11:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I agree
bibasik7 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:14:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yupnt_boi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:47:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
NutStalk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:53:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โ
IveGot2Words4YouSTFU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
needhelpmaxing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:08:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Jokes on you, that's one acronym!
really-drunk-too ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:26:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is like watching a chess match!
I-POOP-RAINBOWS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
thekingofthejungle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:16:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mistallus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is it possible to learn this power?
b_ootay_ful ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:25:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A blank character can be made by pressing Alt 0160 (using the numpad)
Some places still recognize this and black it.
In reddit, you need to switch to markdown and place a ^ first.
^Alt0160 = ย
that_stoner_guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:34:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or just use a "#"
b_ootay_ful ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
orangejuice_vitaminC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:28 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
alto160=
AiedailTMS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โ
TENTAtheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hellendogman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's none of your business.
Squidmaster2013 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:01:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
^
krashmoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am impressed
DrMeepster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Blank space
MomentaryStability ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I see!!!
porple_eggplantBoi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hear!
Cant_Do_This12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:27:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What the hell did you just call me?
ImportantGuide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How can this be possible?
Thrasher1236969 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The ironic part is you didnโt even get gold, you got silver and platinum.
jmorfeus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
๐
_the_chosen_juan_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Platinum?
VinceDC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Platinum
HappyNoCakeDay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Au
sgtyzi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Plat
BoyBopBeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:59:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gld
only1allowed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Platinum
the_retart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
๐ฅ
Hollowbound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Plat
jmorfeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try lol
gunsasses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โ
doingthedogdance ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:23:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Flour
SlappaDaBiss ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:10:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
'num
Worm_Whompurr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:12:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fail
Plargverp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:16:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Doge
enochxarr ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ye
Dogsy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:46:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
et
The-caucasity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedoffice
poisondart90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Word
Arboristador ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fewer better
chiggersinmydiggers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No word less
SamL214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs a subreddit for that.
Arrow_Maestro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They see. They see.
justaguy8289 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
*letters FTFY
Brutally_Sarcastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Das good
jackyboy679 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
All time I save I see(sea) world
Middle_Class_Twit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Say little
TheOneWhoKnowsNothin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Less is more
1eho101pma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tim appple
rush2017 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Beb & vegana pls
dokter0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Brevity.
AnimeNationalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/yourjokebutworse
-ShaiHulud- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Less better
nondece ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Def
YippieKayYayMrFalcon ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 02:17:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ocean. Fish. Jump. China.
A_TeamO_Ninjas ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 03:01:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you going to SeaWorld or going to seethe world?
MrEdj ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:11:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fine, Iโll talk normal.
When I become President, they see. They see.
sdhaja ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:00:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When me President, they see. They see.
Oddity83 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:43:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Kevin
rockies2626 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:10:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Many small time make big time.
CarsenEdwardsMVP ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:47:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Kevin was beyond his time. He's actually a genius.
Assassinatrix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:49:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
car no go
desire_in_disguise ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:31:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
/r/UnexpectedOffice
Evilijah39 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:48:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nike. Do
Dsgorman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:30:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Here, we have a word code, the same way we have a dress code. And what weโre talking about isโฆbasically the speech equivalentโฆ to just wearing underpants. Sometimes words, you no need useโฆbut need need for talk talk.
benbernards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:03:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Give chili recipe pls
Whitesecan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Few words
Lots awards
Reddit
misterflyyy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why say lot when few do same
Phil_Da_Thrill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/Decreasinglyverbose
janspeedbapper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You beat me too it!
PuppieWayne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
fuuckimlate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The rules of ASL
majorawardwinner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Word
nathanxgarcia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk small, save time
TheOnlySafeCult ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Brevity is.....wit
motorcyclesfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
๐ฅ
JoeDiesAtTheEnd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Four words is plenty.
manipulativeproxy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Life speedrun min words any% no glitch
Super-green-thing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why say a big word when a diminutive one will suffice?
PhattyReba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Marklar.
om54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Kemosabe
jupetsu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
T H A N C C
themior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Today you tomorrow me.
zifero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
C world
hey__its__me__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
donscron91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Kevin has a masters degree in marketing.
cocobear13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
F
DemonCipher13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It me Jez.
who_aryu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
yes
dtuck15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sea world.
crazyfreak316 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why say lot, when few do trick
Dr_Janmeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/witcher
GraemeMor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Omit needless words.
eljefe37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Some people have a way with words, others have not way.
Rddet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You las(two)rds can 1
NovicaneZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why you problem make when you no problem have to make
GwenCocoUgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedoffice
FewW0rdDoTrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
danieegirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedoffice
illmoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
่ฐข่ฐขๅญๅญ
deepsea333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Kevin Malone from the Office?
julherb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/expectedoffice
SamKool159 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/decreasinglyverbose in a nutshell
oxymo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:26:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tldr; shutup
couragethebravestdog ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:30:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedTheOffice
p_o_n_d_s ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:17:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/decreasinglyverbose
blisteringbarnacles_ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedoffice
BrutalFuckingTruth ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
/r/unexpectedoffice
groovysmooothie ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedoffice
a_onaplane ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedoffice
Limp_Distribution ยท 3314 points ยท Posted at 00:28:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know the time?
Yes, itโs 3:30pm
Stop doing that!
What
Answering more than was asked.
Huh?
Do you know what time it is.
Yes
Well, done.
FelixFromTheDub ยท 1083 points ยท Posted at 01:03:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of that family guy episode with the psychic. Adam West comes in "can I ask you one question?" The psychic replies "yes" West "Thank you very much"
HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 437 points ยท Posted at 02:22:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My brother always says โYou just didโ to this question. Heโs blown off so many hucksters and mall kiosk people beautifully this way, because then he just keeps walking.
Iโve trained myself to do the same thing. Itโs now involuntary and becomes really annoying when watching movies/tv.
GennyGeo ยท 468 points ยท Posted at 02:48:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I used to walk into my college advisorโs office and timidly say โI donโt mean to bother you but-โ and heโd say โThen why are you?โ
Ruined my day every time bucko
mister_buddha ยท 242 points ยท Posted at 03:14:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My advisor would have answered "hey that's what I'm here for! What can I do for you?"
HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 05:02:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good advisor
sol6mwatney ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 03:24:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
the correct greeting should be "we need to talk" in an loud aggressive voice and with a scowl on your face
c-it ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:47:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is the only way I start conversations. It gets people's attention.
HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:02:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Close the door."
EiNyxia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:31:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably spikes their anxiety too.
SeaGroomer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:25:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Why is the Jimmy Johns guy so mad??"
M85t ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:48:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always do this when I talk to someone above me at work. I walk in their office, make eye contact, and say "we need to talk" as I close the door. Then I sit down and get relaxed and ask them my incredibly normal question. Read them as you do it, let them sit in the silence for a few seconds. There's a million things you can pick up on in that short time but you'll pick up on something.
You can also do this in reverse, when I was young I knew my manager had a problem with me and how I completed my work. He was a long time army guy. He walked up and told me he wanted to talk with me. I said "great, I was just about to come find you because we need to go over some things. I'll wait for you in your office" then walked past him and took a seat in his office and waited for him to walk in. I knew his head was spinning trying to find out what I needed to talk to him for. It definitely took the edge off the conversation since I took the upper hand away.
Confidence is key.
Ikari1212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What if I can't provide a scowl but an Owl on my race ? Does that suffice ?
EyelandBaby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:13 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://raceowl.com
Ikari1212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:59 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Darn auto correct
EyelandBaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:05 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but hey, now you know about race owl.
Elijafir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My ex (mother of two children) does this to me once or twice a month. Usually in a text message. Then I'm stressing until the conversation happens and it's almost always something that doesn't concern me and I don't care about.
PeriwinklePitbull ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 03:05:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Man my heart hurts for you. I'm impressed you went back, I wouldn't have been able to
WhitestKidYouKnow ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:09:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like a person who doesnt want to actually advise..
I was lucky to have an awesome advisor for 2 years in undergrad. Once i got into graduate school i didnt talk to her much during her office hours. Found her on Facebook and saw she was friends with a few students I also knew (this was 2-3 years past undergrad) so i sent her a friend request.
She's a language/English major that posts hilarious "ask the audience" questions and weird thoughts that you never think about (one that sticks out is, wet boots always squeak on floors, but the two shoes make different noises. That's weird right?"). And know I cant unhear it.
But we've had some exchanges over the years after I graduated. Her husband started chemo ad she had some health issues come up.. And she came to me, now a pharmacist, to ask about weird potential side effects or for advice, or alternative treatments.
It's a really cool interaction to have with someone that saw you previously as a student but now sees you as a professional. She is so great.
nonamethewalrus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:30:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโll just straight up ask my manager โCan I bother you for a minute?โ He never minds.
Stick_and_Rudder ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:50:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"because what I need is more important than your convenience"
pushingbeyondlimits ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a good answer
Linusami ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So, you're accidentally bothering me?
you_did_wot_to_it ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the parks and rec episode where Ben meets Leslie's mom for the first time.
pknk6116 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
goes to show there's assholes everywhere
talithaeli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:45:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โWell I was about to tell you, if youโd let me finish my sentence.โ
iamheero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to bother you but it's your job so get over it, I'm here.
doctor-doodoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you're lying. You did mean to bother him because you thought whatever you were bothering for was worth it.
GennyGeo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:01:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I meant to say โI hope Iโm not bothering youโ, as English can be a tricky language. But, as a confused freshman college student, it was hard enough to approach figures of authority
thesuper88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps changing it to "I don't want to bother you, but..." could work. You do MEAN to, but you don't WANT to. Then if you asked "Then why are you?" one could give an honest answer like, "Because I am not sure which of these two courses I need to take first, or if I can take them at the same time" oracle whatever your reason to be there is.
Now you've conveyed that you know you're requesting something of them, you don't desire to be a bother, and the reason for your coming to them. Polite. Truthful. And unapologetic with regards to the fact that you're making a reasonable request.
ashok36 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:02:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The shortest sentence in the English language is, "No". It's also one of the most effective.
Say No. Keep walking.
raznog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:28:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer the just keep walking without bothering with the no.
ihunt0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
E
TopangaTohToh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Telling strangers no is one of life's simplest pleasures.
iwannabeaproperwoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:08 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The shortest complete sentence in the English language is โI amโ, which makes the longest โI doโ
18randomcharacters ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:55:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My rule is to just keep walking. Talk freely to them as long as they're in range, but don't stop walking.
wokesysadmin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:02:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I did this in Vegas with some sketchy dude except my response was "I don't have any answers" and I kept walking. His facial expression was priceless.
dotdioscorea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Surely they have comebacks to that, itโs like standard dad jokes 101 material
bobstay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:32:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
"Can I ask you another question?" (as the opener)
HooptyDooDooMeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โYou just did.โ
bobstay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As the opener.
Will edit for clarity.
RobertdBanks ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:09:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to break it to you, but thatโs not exactly some smooth as silk way to blow them off, I promise you they just think heโs an ass. Because itโs an ass response.
GoronCraft ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:16:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of something that happened in a Dungeons and Dragons campaign I ran. The players got to ask a spirit a question. They asked "how many questions can we asked"
...
"One"
They got pretty mad at me lol
leroyyrogers ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 01:29:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you really the owner of kwik-e-mart?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
You?
Yes.
pennyroyalTT ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 01:54:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hope this has been enlightening for you.
Thank you, come again!
paintbucket7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No
paintbucket7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No
zion_hiker1911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Twss
treat-yo-selff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:07:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Her?
EyelandBaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:19 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Upvoted for Arrested Development comment made by Parks and Rec username in a comment thread from the Simpsons
treat-yo-selff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:53 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just glad someone got the reference.
Flower_Boogerface ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
UPDOOT!
Love4Mizzou ยท 131 points ยท Posted at 01:11:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It look me a minute to remember where Iโve heard this. https://youtu.be/H5YqX0ewEnY
MendicantFoo ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 02:10:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I knew it right away. Babish was the man
NotALicensedDoctor ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:02:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
God damn the west wing is so good. If anyone hasnโt seen it, you need to!
MyRushmoreMax08 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:01:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oliver reads Le Monde
Only he can make reading French papers cool
DoctorWaluigiTime ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:03:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For me it was ER.
Wheels16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same, crazy how some random scenes stick in your head for twenty years
samwood1234 ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 01:43:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Literally am watching west wing for the first time ever and just watched this episode two nights ago!
Tigergirl1975 ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 01:52:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I envy you.
I wish I could watch it for the first time again.
BunnyPerson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Does it hold up?
ccwithers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:39:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, mostly. America hasnโt solved any major problems in the last 20 years, so politicians are still wrestling over them. Some of the problems that the show deals with like polarization and quick news cycles have certainly been amplified lately, but not so much that the show seems completely out of touch.
One thing thatโs missing is social media, and the one episode that involved an Internet forum actually holds up fairly well, even though it just scratches the surface.
FatalStrik3x ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
loved the santos debates -- just like having that real debate. so good
Splyce123 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:17:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Classic West Wing.
Mddcat04 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure itโs Newsroom (unless Itโs also WW and Sorkin is repeating himself).
lady_lilitou ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:31:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sorkin loves to repeat himself.
This is just a sample: https://youtu.be/S78RzZr3IwI
marmosetohmarmoset ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:47:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I love Kevin T Porter and his obsessed encyclopedic knowledge of everything Aaron Sorkin has ever written.
SinstarMutation ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:27:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's both. In West Wing it's Oliver Babish talking to CJ Cregg about stuff of a spoilery nature.
Sorkin repeats himself a few times between the shows. 'Ave Maria' has a moment of import in each, as well as a 'Muhammed el Muhammed al Muhammed bin Bazar' joke. There's defijitely more, but I can't think of them atm.
Splyce123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:32:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Alison Janney and Oliver Platt in the West Wing.
FaceFive ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:33:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Unexpected West Wing... Oliver Babish & CJ Cregg
tuckertucker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that scene was Babish and Mrs Bartlett?
the_murder_of_crowe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:38:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor Bartlet
HiHoJufro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:10:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did I just get West Winged? I feel like I just got West Winged.
Paging /u/OliverBabish
Activedesign ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:52:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a teacher in college (one of my favorites of all time) who drilled this in us from day 1. He said when we are asked a question to just answer it, no runaround. We got pretty good at it by the end of the semester
idrive2fast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:25:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You've either been prepped for a deposition by an attorney who did well getting the point across, or you're quoting something.
I like to use "What kind of shirt are you wearing?" If they respond with anything other than "I'm sorry, you're going to have to be more specific," I haven't done my job properly.
etcpt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:34:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They're quoting The West Wing
tzucon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:16:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
West Wing, I do love that show.
davisonmp28 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In all my life I have never found anything cute
etcpt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
*charming
PigsWalkUpright ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is that from The West Wing? For some reason I I hear CJ Cregg saying that.
Edited to say ignore the question, Iโve read all the other comments.
FoxMuldertheGrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I love this interaction between both characters
I really like Oliver babish
FLJohnnyBlue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:26:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
IAL and use this exact question as part of my witness prep for depositions and trial as an example of paying attention to the question and only answering the question asked. Then I explain that it normal communication it is courteous to answer the question we know is actually being asked depute the language used.
Dasterr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
while on topic, still pretty stupid
intensely_human ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is basically how you solve the first few koans
TheMightyBattleSquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like my last job.
Wuz314159 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://i.imgur.com/IiGuYLm.gif
TheRedGerund ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Babish doesn't say "well done" tho
renaissance_weirdo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You've been in a deposition, haven't you?
emeraldleighw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/expectedwestwing
DontGiveMeGoldKappa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know the time ?
:
ZeroByter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh, the West Wing.
niall_9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I know this... is this West Wing?
FataOne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a professor use this as an example in a litigation class just a few hours ago.
kittybarclay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I came here to see if someone had done this!!
StaticChocolate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But if you apply this in an exam, youโd probably walk out with 0
maqusan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And don't mock the Big Hammer
bigwilly311 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do this to my students daily.
โDo you have a pencil I can borrow?โ
Yes.
โDo you know where I can find it?โ
Yes.
โCan you tell me where it is?โ
Yes.
โ...โ
...
โCan I borrow a pencil?โ
Here.
lizzolemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nature, like a woman, will seduce you with its sights and its scents and its touch, and then it breaks your ankle, also like a woman
Mostefa_0909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:20:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Marge: HOMER
Homer : Marge I don't wanna lie to you.
proceed to walk away
MadCalBad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
First thing that came to mind for me as well
BeefSupremeTA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
God I wish they'd done more with Babish.
MiddleRook ยท 14318 points ยท Posted at 00:46:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs two rules to success.
Rule #1 never tell anyone everything you know.
Levester ยท 1758 points ยท Posted at 01:24:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna use this the next time I'm being interrogated by Batman and he asks me to tell him everything I know
SuspiciouslyElven ยท 518 points ยท Posted at 01:36:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Batman: drops you off building feet first
bstephe123283 ยท 354 points ยท Posted at 01:46:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"You're not very good at this, that fall isnt nearly enough to kill me!"
-guy who doesnt care about broken ankles
-BoBaFeeT- ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 01:54:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
He is rich. He has good insurance.
EnginerdCantSpell ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 01:59:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'll be back on my feet with pins in my ankles in no time.
ZarathustraV ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:00:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhhhh, real nice pair of ankles ya go there Tony, it'd be a real shame if something should happen to that them there ankles you got....eats pastrami sandwich menacingly
notaburneraccount ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:02:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Er, gabbagool!
hellohoundd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:19:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
gabbagool!!!
The_Singularity16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
He is poor. He lives in a country where, astonishingly, having insurance is a joke because healthcare in the public system is equivalent to private for all intents and purposes.
Jooshmeister ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:20:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm counting on it."
Rainbow_Plague ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:34:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh he knows. He doesn't kill. Just severely maims and makes the rest of your life a living hell.
Arrokoth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:45:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
/r/Neverbrokeabone would like to revoke your membership.
Tydy11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mr. Falcone, why do you have that limp?
undermark5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean usually it isn't the fall that kills you anyway. It's generally the sudden change of velocity at the end the kills you.
RyuRoxas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"That's what the mallets for."
Rickmundo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Heโs counting on it
etilauqa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I literally just watch Dark Knight on Netflix. I just saw this scene lol.
BlindTurtles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But Batman doesn't kill so you know you're safe
Al_Swedgen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Swear to me!!
Deuce_GM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:55:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nah nah that's all wrong
Batman: Crushes suspects legs with batmobile, then proceeds to forcefully step on the suspect's shoulder
Batman: "Now talk"
MrShankles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Swear to me!!!
PillowsSleepTonight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
turns around mid-fall and beyblades head-first to heck
clearkryptonite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
SWEAR TO ME!
Stupid_Triangles ยท 326 points ยท Posted at 01:37:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Batman: tell me what you know!
Me: pluto isnt a planet anymore, due to it's size, eccentric elliptical revolution, and that it's too far away! Those 3 factors prevent Pluto from clearing it's region of other spacial debris, which prompted the callcto downgrade Pluto from a planet to a dwarf planet! Puto is Spanish for bitch!
frakkinreddit ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 01:50:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Funny thing is that if Pluto had an interaction with another body that caused it to migrate to a lower orbit it could be a planet again.
Stupid_Triangles ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 02:01:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pluto just doesn't want to settle down because it hasn't found the right one yet. Let pluto do pluto. It s a strong independent celestial body that dont need no orbit lowering mother fucker messing with her groove. you do you pluto! We love you!!!
Pluto: continues existing as it has for the last billion or so years
jokzard ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:27:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pluto is a millenial?
death_of_gnats ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:28:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cold and distant?
Sounds like my parents
Rickicookie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:47:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Plutoโs a fucking planet bitch!
dapper-kitty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:34:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm just wondering if Sailor Pluto gets to stay in the squad or is she kicked out, Mean Girls style
GrimpenMar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:58:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's still more similar to Haumea, Makemake, and Eris. Ceres (which one to be considered a planet) got a promotion under the new IAU classification from asteroid up to dwarf planet.
Really, however we want to categorize things is only so meaningful as it helps us to understand the world around us. This is just a way of grouping similar planets together for our own convenience.
frakkinreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure that its really made anything more convenient. Another funny twist that surprises a lot of people is that there are no planets around other stars now. Size and composition doesn't matter, none of them are planets.
jakethedumbmistake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, this is Reddit so EMOJI BAD!
billbill5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:10:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's messed up, right?
hiphopnurse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard it both ways
Stupid_Triangles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like a bisexual.
Nick2the4reaper7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You know dat's right.
here_to_stay_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're gonna be Spanish for bitch if you don't tell me everything you know!
Sensino ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"...Pluto is Spanish for bitch! Just like you Mr Batman"
TheMightyBattleSquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was punto for some reason.
azab189 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So that's why no one tells Batman where Rachel is
EuphoricOnesieHugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Arenโt all giant space orbs with its own atmosphere a planet? Regardless of its orbit? I mean... we are only in one solar system. Definition being solar to our giant sun.
Stupid_Triangles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A planet needs a star to circle around. There are different levels of classifications based on different attributes. I dont know all of them (who does that isnt paid for it) but i know a body needs a star to revolve around in order to be considered a planet. Otherwise, it's space rock AT-9274A0
EuphoricOnesieHugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ya fair enough.
Poor Pluto. Itโs like the loner outcast.
ScreamingDizzBuster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
its * 2
Bahndoos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Batman: WHERE IS HE?!!
Stupid_Triangles: who?
Batman: PLUTO! WHERE IS HE!!??
Stupid_Triangles: Pluto is not a man...
Batman: ๐ค ... WHAT IS HE???!!
Stupid_Triangles: A dwarf planet in the Kuiper Belt, beyond Neptune
Batman: WHERE IS NEPTUNE
Stupid_Triangles: 4.6 billion km away in deep space
Batman: ๐คจ calls Alfred ALFRED! I NEED TO GO TO NEPTUNE
Alfred: Why sir?
Batman: I HAVE TO FIND PLUTO
Alfred: Sir, is that the Joker with you?
Stupid_Triangles: removes mask to reveal the Joker
Joker: Surpriiiiissssssssssse.....๐คก.... Why so seriousssssssss......?
Batman: JOKER! WHERE IS NEPTUNE???!!
Joker: Right. Next. To ...... URANUS!
Batman: POW! BIFF! SPLAT!
Alt/end
Vindexus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:22:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
it is size
LUMPIERE ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:38:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The next time? If batman interrogated you once he doesn't need you anymore.
BruceWayne_Batman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Correct...
batsybatsybatsy16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Found Thomas Elliot's reddit acc
BruceWayne_Batman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Title, is Dr.
RedditIsNeat0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But what if I learn new things after I escape from Gotham prison?
Tels315 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not if you're one of Batman's informants.
Lasdary ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:39:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
the second rule is not to play smartass with Batman
bitironic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hear the intensive care unit in Arkham is reeeaal nice this time of year.
downtimeredditor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah use it man.
Worse thing that could happen is broken bones and broken soul but you'll still be alive since Batman doesn't kill anyone due to his moral code
eighthourlunch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Wherrrizit???"
-Badman
Pisforplumbing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:43:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is every superhero plot. Give tiny bits of information to keep the suspense and give them a higher probability of failing.
"Yes batman I stole two ppl." "Yes batman they are in different locations. "Yes batman the timers are offset so choose the right one"
Villainy 101 duh
BruceWayne_Batman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Coming for you...
Calvin--Hobbes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you're good at something never do it for free.
DoctorCrocker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What happened last time?
Razor1834 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
He will probably just put you to sleep
paul-arized ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Riddled with [blank], multiple choice:
A) bullets
Argybargyass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When Batman faced it off against The Green Hornet Cato had to fight Robin you know Batmans girlfriend. Well Bruce Lee who was Cato refused to take a dive to Robin so the they had to draw just to placate Bruce Leeโs ego! True Fact!
4K_VCR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
WHERE WERE THE OTHER DRUGS GOING?!
gayddit- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Batman died from Corona Chan
CXNNEWS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Batman: EHY ARE THE CHINESE EATING ALL MY BATS?
theRedRedditer ยท 748 points ยท Posted at 01:36:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ever, for any reason, do anything, to anyone, for any reason, ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been, ever, for any reason whatsoever.
[deleted] ยท 229 points ยท Posted at 02:02:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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ajohan97 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 03:16:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just hope I find it along the way.
Kurbitsims ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:36:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Improversation.
i_throw_rocks_ ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:54:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You have no idea how high I can fly.
Csquared6 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:59:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was with you right up until the moment you opened your mouth.
Pheonixi3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:17:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
if you did what i did, you might have misread it because the journey was the things we did along the way
Dmillz648 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes i start talking and have no clue how my sentence is going to pineapple.
kassell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Troy Aikman? :D
mydogsnameisbuddy ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:49:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That is a philosophy to live by.
n_reineke ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:18:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But what are the 10 rules of business?
batsybatsybatsy16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:56:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dont start a fire
TobiasCB ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:17:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ryan started the fiyah!
Snuggle_Fist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:38:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You mean the 285 Rules of Acquisition?
JitGoinHam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
n_reineke, what a delicious surprise.
PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:31:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is going to sound high maintenance, but could we have it, like, three degrees cooler in here?
pickyourflick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What say we order up some pasta?
HauntingDaylight ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:38:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What say we do
EnginerdCantSpell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In short, stay home
batsybatsybatsy16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
shor'nt
oxymo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ever, admit to doing anything, to anyone, for any reason, no matter where you are or who you are with, or where you may be going, much less where you've been.
Next!
veovix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-Michael Scott
Kemerd ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:16:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
.. And that child was Albert Einstein.
realboabab ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:40:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
good bot
oxymo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did you have a stroke?
70camaro ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:02:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a scientist. I hate working with people with that mentality.
deelyy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:48:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We all hate working with people like that.
FlaccidCamel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a technician but work with a lot of scientists. Itโs pretty bad at my company. Weโve found papers published in the 70s by our own company about stuff we were trying to figure out this year. So much knowledge gets lost.
70camaro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One of the programs our group is working on is to basically rediscover a technology that was perfected in the 70s. One guy basically knew how to do it, and when he retired he took the secret sauce with him. Dumb. I know exactly how you guys feel. It makes me wonder how much money is wasted because of this.
oatbergen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:18:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had this backfire on a friend of mine in the navy. As he was close to getting transferred off his ship. He would constantly brag to us how his ship was so screwed when he left because he was the only guy who knew how the newest communication system worked. I told him he should train someone just before he left because the navy owns you until you leave.
Well he didnโt and when he was about to check off his ship days before they deployed for half a year he was told in no uncertain terms he was coming with because he knew the most about the comms system. He was furious and when I found out I laughed.
Edit cuz I no spell gud
AccNum134 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:10:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind, while you might be successful because of this, it's generally a pretty shitty thing to do.
Skissored ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:28:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ok but jokes aside, how would we progress if we didn't share knowledge? I work in an industry that is extremely elitist and if it wasn't for "the godfathers" of their craft sharing their information, it would still be a boys club of a small few.
sweetestblessing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:31:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I like this
BangingABigTheory ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:00:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What if I have a desperate need for everyone to like me?
IncognitoErgoCum5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:47:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then you'll follow the spirit of his advice. People, like cats, can feel when you are desperate for their favor. That behavior is unbearable to be around.
Packers_Equal_Life ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is hard at work. Hoarding information is rampant in at my company
LemonTeaCool ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:56:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My real estate agent?
812many ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:46:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I follow the Rules of Acquisition.
THATDUDE-with-a-dot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:57:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Step one: never tell anyone everything you know
Step two:???????????????
Step three: profit
PlainSimpleRyMo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:48:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There are two types of people in this world:
Tunago_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
...And!!?
nick8Tart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Where's Rule #2? Wait... You're not gonna to tell me?!
cheezemeister_x ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule #2: You do NOT talk about fight club.
brickboy13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Except in video games.
jooshpak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was about to ask what number 2 is, then I realized what you just did here. Well done sir
stratogy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So what's the second-ohhhhh
prisonbuttsex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule number 2 have fun
pccarl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yesterday I made a comment after turning in my rental car that I heard a funny sound for a few moments. Today they asked for my insurance policy number.
Shouldnโt have said that.
TheBologna132 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's how you get murdered by your apprentice. Chances are, you couldn't save yourself from death.
RowBoatyGirlyMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting fact; this is a huge USSR mindset and was one of the reasons why they struggled with many of their unsuccessful projects. They viewed it as knowledge=power, so the more you knew, the less likely you were to be replaced. So, might as well make sure your job that only you know how to do never gets done, because that way you will always be needed
cstar4004 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Knowing something is a commodity. Think about it. Professors know stuff and sell the knowledge.
DarwinsMoth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Say less than you know, have more than you show.
ulyssessword ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:11:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What's the second rule?
GetoBoii ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:14:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
why would he tell you?? He would have told you EVERYTHING he knows about success..
Generic_DummyFucker ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:19:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule 34.
BusterMcBust ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:14:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think youโre missing the joke...
red-bot ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:27:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah itโs because itโs number 2 and OP isnโt coughing it up!
TXR22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There are two kinds of people:
DogEsq ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:15:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
timing
Monkibizness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I canโt tell you that
Disrezpectful ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:15:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Read : rule 1.
remarqer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The third rule is the key.
PhantomShadow18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm did you just woosh or did I just double woosh?
gHHqdm5a4UySnUFM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Second rule is to talk to everyone you know about fight club
eajay_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs ze joke.
Meatbag37 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:16:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/wooosh
NearquadFarquad ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:17:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/woosh
tansuit_dijon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:50:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The most important rule is having gratitude for your coworkers and clients.
Share everything and be someone who adds value to the team, not some schmuck who hoards information in the hopes of โjob securityโ.
What you mention is the mindset of the 90s era cubical workers. Today, you gotta be open and agile. Support each other and be someone people want to work with.
yorddt123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let me holding... what is the second rule!!
Just_Hide_Me ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:35:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just cmomenting for in case OP delivers.
theaussiewhisperer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What are the other rules?! What are you hiding now?
Plothunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My job got outsourced to India. I had to train my 6 replacements. Yea, I left more than a few things out. In my defense, all they wanted to know was how to open a ticket and where the M&Ps were. I told them over and over I'm an engineer that's not what I do. They realized far too late that they were fucked.
JohnKlositz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also there's two types of people.
Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data sets.
PhattyReba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't leave me hanging, man. What's the other type?
/s
OhmItOut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
ImaFrakkinNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule of Acquisition 190: hear all and trust nothing.
DownVotingCats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I struggle with this, I wanna brag.
16arms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But whatโs rule two???
spliffiam36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also don't ever, for any reason, do anything to anyone for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever...
stormhunter2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule #2 if you're good at something, never do it for free
FluffyNinjaPancakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What's #2?
UbiquitousBagel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But whatโs #2????
Rhamni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The secret ingredient is crime.
LaurAuD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This
Reddit-Is-Anonymous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Darth Plagueis made that mistake, and so his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Count Dooku told Savage Opress once that "A wise master does not reveal all his secrets at once"
doodubutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, I'm stealing this
ueeerrrrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you pay someone to give you info? Ie a coach?
WalfieOnYouTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh ho ho, I like this a lot!
ShowAbe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Logically that means thats all you know
Ug_Lee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There is however, a modification to that rule, and that is โDonโt be the senior guy with the secret.โ
Itโs mostly a military thing but it can apply to a professional setting as well. That is to say, if thereโs a problem that will cause delays or affect the job in any way, give your boss a heads up. Because if theyโre reporting to their boss that everything is on track or going as planned, when the problems suddenly cause delays you donโt want to be the one who knew about it and didnโt warn anyone. Best way about it is an email, that way if your boss kept the problem under wraps and tries to play off that he didnโt know anything about it you have proof that he definitely knew.
topsecreteltee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
*for free
kornslug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Apply this rule in science and mankind will never progress.
knots_cycle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
He taught me everything I know.
Yeah but did he teach you everything he knows?
Just-In-Development ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's one rule. Downvoted
CaptaiNiveau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule #2 don't talk about the fight club.
pier4r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But I love open knowledge. Of course not those that can be used against you.
TheGlobglogabgolab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Clever.
tkstrozy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:27 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rule #2 sometimes you have to break rules, and help your under informed peers
ThatOneNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No no, rule 1 is be good looking. Rule 2 is don't be ugly. Rule three is safety and THEN it's don't tell everything you know.
KillerOfLight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Does this also apply when you talk with your doctor?
justwanttopost1thing ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Whatโs the second
soohvascon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:25:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/whoooosh
iforgotusrname ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:54:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's rule #2 not #1
Displaced_Yankee ยท 2473 points ยท Posted at 00:44:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Advice I live by. People think Iโm smart because I donโt talk much. Boy do I have them fooled.
6pt022x10tothe23 ยท 1375 points ยท Posted at 01:26:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โBetter to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.โ
-Gandalf, or something
Hoon1gan1 ยท 290 points ยท Posted at 01:30:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gannondorf actually
foursix77 ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 01:35:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-Abraham Lincoln
ethicalthrowaway2 ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 01:50:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-Michael Scott
Craazy_dave ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:06:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
WILLEM DAFOE
TheMillenniumMan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:35:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
TheyTokMaJerb ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:30:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-Wayne Gretzky
InstaxFilm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:59:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpectedoffice /s
boiwutrthos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me think of Michael Scott
Bacon_n_Eggies ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:38:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-My Grandad
Stick_and_Rudder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:51:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-Lisa Simpson
I_AM_AN_ASSHOLE_YES ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:24:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-Hitler
Tels315 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:53:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-Abrahannondorf
Dogtag009 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:03:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โYou can find all sorts of dumb made up information on the Internetโ -Abraham Lincoln, 1924
PlasticSentence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-Abradorf the Greynkoln
schoolyjul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
His Twitter was so full of wisdom.
findaway5627 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:08:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean Dumbledore Calrissian.
LetsSynth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
DORIYA!
Staticn0ise ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:45:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Actually Gannondorf was just quoting Belgarath.
collapsing_sanity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gannondorf the White or Gannondorf the Grey ?
Hoon1gan1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:16:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The Grey, obviously
VonBlorch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I believe you mean Dorf (on golf)
Bpesca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
-DMX
JKDS87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gannondarfl
Gaardc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bowser
DarthZartanyus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:20:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/GannonBanned
Frogten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good old Crenando won't give a bad advice.
StaticasaurusRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
gandalfdorf
thempokemans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ghandalfdorf
Slightly-Artsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And this is what they mean by that.
Hoon1gan1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And that is what they call a joke.
Slightly-Artsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was continuing the joke.
MountainManWriterFan ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 01:40:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Uh oh, what did that mean? Better say something or theyโll think youโre stupid.
Takes one to know one!
Swish!
Faldricus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:53:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Money in the bank!
im_a_tumor666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
...words.
TediousNut ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:38:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mark Twain!
And before him, a derivation of this is found in Proverbs.
Psychast ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:07:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've always hated this saying so much. It's better interpreted "It is better to wallow in ignorance with a facade of intelligence than to risk being judged by others." Don't let what others may think of you stop you from stating an opinion. ASK STUPID QUESTIONS.
I guaran-fucking-tee you nobody cares if you do or don't know a thing, if you say something and it's wrong, people that care will correct you, or debate you. There is no better joy than teaching someone something new. Be the fool, remove all that fucking doubt, own that shit and get better from it.
A silent fool, is still a fool, even if no one else knows it.
ResolverOshawott ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:15:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The real advice is in the replies
micasubs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yesss. Thank you for putting it so eloquently. I was going to say this could be true... assuming every quiet person is actually intelligent. ๐คท๐ฝโโ๏ธ
RememberTheKracken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
The real trick is you better say something smart when you do open up your mouth. If you're quite all the time and only say dumb things, well then you look like some of my coworkers who are just mostly silent idiots. On top of being dumb they also get dinged for not contributing anything. You really got to be able to gauge the situation.
vagrantjo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โThose who say don't know. Those who know don't say. That holds up over time.โ - Robert DeNiro
micasubs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Idk man, I prefer โThose who mind donโt matter and those who matter donโt mind.โ But also, how else would we learn from each other if we never spoke about shit we are atleast passion about? We all learn from each other... staying quiet can be perceived as arrogance.
vagrantjo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm not Robert DeNiro. But heโs just saying that tends to be how things work in his experience.
Anything can be perceived as anything. If someone thinks your arrogant for being quiet, thatโs a reflection of the person perceiving arrogance.
In my experience, you can tell people what you know all you want. But until they figure it out for themselves, they wonโt really internalize it. Everyone can tell you, exercise everyday, it makes such a big difference to your mental and physical health. But it wonโt matter until you actually do it and go, wow everyone else was right, this was so simple I canโt believe what a difference it makes.
PM_ME_UR_BEST_STORY_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Next time I walk into an interview late I'm gonna hit 'em with the "a wizard is never late. Nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to"
catbutz88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Damn I need to listen to this
DeltaBetaBeta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โ Jason Mendoza
ei8hts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre a good person
LustIssues1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
SlyCooper218 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Taciturnitas stulto homini pro sapienta est." -Publilius Syrus
Roughly translated from Latin; "Let a fool hold his tongue and he will pass for a sage."
Al_E_Borland ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 01:43:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I generally only open my mouth at work when I have something to add to the discussion.
In one of my performance reviews the only feedback given for where I could improve was to speak up more.... join calls, talk a lot, and fix everything for everyone. I told my boss that I wasn't going to talk for the sake of talking, we already had too much of that on the calls. I wasn't going to cheapen what I had to say by surrounding it with bull shit, because I want people to pay attention when I speak up. I know exactly what people do when the talkers start talking.... they tune out. His only real response was, "fair enough..".
otterom ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:17:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, can you come lecture my fucking company?
Wait, even better, can we work together? I would love to not chit-chat with you all day. Our meetings will would last 5 or fewer minutes. It would be awesome!
Al_E_Borland ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:28:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Got any openings? I currently have a job, but for the right offer I could be convinced to leave. I wouldn't recommend you come to my place, the culture is broken.
The guy who used to run our team (not the guy that gave me that feedback) would make every meeting 60-90 minutes long, even it was scheduled for 15 or 30. No one could take it anymore, so I took over. Our meetings generally took 5-10 minutes. If they took longer it was because the team was really engaged discussing the various trade offs of a solution we were looking to implement. No one was talking just to talk. It was glorious.
Timzy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:24:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Had the exact same discussion. However the one that did talk a lot of crap was give. Their own team. They left fairly quickly after that as they couldnโt cope but Iโve no doubt they will do the same thing at the next company.
nomoredrivinginLA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:18:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Some people just don't know when to shut the fuck up.
JCsuperska ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 01:27:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nah theyโre right. Knowing when to shut up is a way more intelligent character trait than thinking youโre the smartest person in the room.
lfod13 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:27:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
nivlac22 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:24:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Until now
hlodnb ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:10:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
happy cake day
MrStealYoPillow ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:26:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How can we use this against him...
fleta336 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
crazyeight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:50:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Speak low, speak slow, and don't say too much." - John Wayne, universally regarded as a genius
Jacsmom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:49:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And you donโt learn anything by talking.
suibhnesuibhne ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:32:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Paradox, though. People who think they're intelligent are usually anything but. So you saying you're not, might mean you are, or you're playing coy, which might mean you're not.
Happy digital cake day.
CoolJumper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My problem is I'm naturally a talkative person. I just like to chat and always end up find myself talking to much. Then I'm left with the opposite problem where some people think I'm dumb because I'm just chatty and like to ramble...
So OP's advice and your comment hit home right now h I really need to learn to control my mouth/words.
myusernameis2lon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:30:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Being talkative is not a problem, it's more that Reddit is just an echo chamber where people think being introverted makes you superior. But being communicative is definitely not a bad thing, so please don't try to change that, especially if that's part of your personality.
Obviously, just rambling on about something while ignoring the person you're talking to is not good but there is a difference between that and enjoying having conversations.
dynamic_unreality ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:49:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta admit, I have a quiet friend who I used to think was super smart, and then he got a facebook account and started posting his actual thoughts. Turns out hes dumb, petty and violent, but just too quiet to say anything normally, so I suppose I assumed the best
jooshpak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was wondering why the cactus in the corner always gets promoted...
Tibri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A little bit on/off topic. Ever get annoyed with people that ask questions that basically recap everything that was just said? My boss started just making that person take notes and recapping our meetings in an email right afterward. Pay fucking attention. You look like an idiot.
GuessImNotLurking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Better to remain silent and thought a cool y than to speak and remove all doubt.
WaffleMiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Have more than you show, speak less than you know.
Insectshelf3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
wait a second
Veni_Vidi_Legi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Should have stopped here. :D
whowanttobeonreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Happy cake day!
rmsprs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Happy cake day brother
Raisinbrannan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There was awhile I was talking kinda cryptichally and eventually my friends started thinking everything I said had a hidden meaning. I bet it made me seem rather smart, but I stopped doing it cuz I'm sure it got tiring
Experts-say ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Its important to look smart while doing this
CharlieJuliet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You just talked too much.
sidneysaad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Jason from the good place is the best example of this. While he was Jianyu, he was the wise one.
merlin401 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oof: one sentence too much!
TheGreatRandolph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Happy cake day!
no_work_throwaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:55:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cake
-x610z- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
me:
people:he smart.
Chipmunkfunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That you Jarrod Kushner?
HRWells ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:30:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
...but by commenting on this LPT, aren't you volunteering information?
Corp_T ยท 273 points ยท Posted at 01:10:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was getting motorcycle insurance, they asked me if I wanted to go ahead and list any traffic violations Iโd had in the past 5 years while we waited for the system to update, of course I said sure. I listed a speeding ticket and an accident Iโd had a few years prior. They quoted me $256 and a minute later my record came through and what I had reported as an accident was actually in my record as a moving violation, not an accident. So, I end up with 3 traffic violations because of my โself reported accidentโ and another $100 added to my bill.
ThePretzul ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 10:04:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Giving insurance information about tickets and accidents is literally you asking for higher rates. It can never help you, only hurt you.
The same goes for talking to the police.
hiddenproverb ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 12:18:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same goes for joining the military lol
Naive-Beef ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:23:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But not telling them this information is likely to lead to them not providing you cover and making it harder to get cover in the future for non-disclosure. In the UK at least anyway.
wtyhindaa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:59:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like this in America as well
wk-uk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:10 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Usually not telling them wont be a problem until one of several things happens:
1) You mess up and tell them accidentally at some point because you forgot what you hadnt told them
2) Their records update and show you have points on your record or a previous accident.
3) You have an accident and try to claim
1 & 2 usually arent a problem, just pay the price delta and carry on.
3, however, especially if its a fault claim, or theres some legal issues involved (like you were speeding at the time) will usually result in the insurer voiding your insurance. So not only have you paid for insurance that was meaningless; you are also in a whole world of shit because you have now been driving without valid insurance. Which is illegal. So that just piles on to whatever other issues you have as a result of the claim. And trust me, insurance assessers will find ANY loophole to get out of paying for a fault claim.
tl;dr; always declare everything, and suck it up, but also shop around.
shawster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you fail to report accidents or moving violations you may get coverage but if you have to use it and they discover it, which they easily can and will, they can drop you.
ThePretzul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's the insurance company's job to pull your driving record and give you a price based on that information. Every violation that affects insurance will appear on this driving record that they pull. You won't suddenly, 6 months down the road, have another violation from 3 years ago show up on this driving record because the insurance companies use the same source every time they pull your record.
Telling them about stuff not on your record makes the price go up. Not telling them about stuff that isn't on the record has literally zero consequences because if it's not on the record, it won't be added later.
The only exception to that is if it was an incredibly recent violation, and we're talking like within a month or two. That's the only time a violation not on your record could later appear, because there is some delay in reporting those violations and them filtering through the system. If it's more than 6 months old and not on your record, then it's never going to be added to the record and you're an idiot if you tell insurance about it so they can raise your rates/potentially deny coverage because of it.
Corp_T ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But if itโs not on your record because your court date hasnโt come yet, itโs not technically there. Had an agent tell me that, until the ticket is paid or court session over youโre still good.
ThePretzul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:25:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Correct, because you are not guilty of doing anything wrong until you have either plead guilty/no contest or been found guilty in court after a fair trial. That's part of the fundamental nature of the U.S. justice system, being innocent until proven guilty (though it doesn't protect you from the social consequences of arrest/prosecution).
In most states paying the fine for the ticket instead of going to court counts the same as pleading no contest in court. It's always worth your while to go to court or hire a lawyer if you can though, simply because reducing or eliminating the ticket altogether will save you money in the long run with lower insurance premiums. That right there was reason enough for me to carry legal insurance, since personally I'd rather not have to fork out $750+ at once for the best result from a lawyer if it ever happens to me. Through my work it was dirt cheap anyways.
Point still stands though, unless you were convicted of a violation (or plead no contest by paying the fine) in the last few months it would be stupid to tell the insurance company anything about your driving record. It can only hurt you, and only the very recent items have consequences if you don't tell insurance about them.
awndray97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So do you just say no?
CelebiChansey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:02:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hate this because I did the same, but with health insurance. Screwed myself out of 50k coverage which I then had to pay out of pocket. They asked me about my medical history while their system loaded, and I gave them all of it. Later the dude says to allow him to update all that because in his system he had me clear of medical issues.
xojaz87 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:15:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Must be from the US
CelebiChansey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:05:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually not, I'm from Mexico. We have paid healthcare and IMSS (like universal healthcare) but they take forever and give no options. So I ended up paying for the surgery I needed since with IMSS they wanted to give me extended treatment instead of surgery right away
agoia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I moved between states and had to switch insurance.
"Do you have any recent tickets or violations?"
"I do not believe so."
"Lemme check real quick.... and it looks like you are good." (Not finding the 9mph or 18mph over speeding tickets from Virginia)
coordinatedflight ยท 3528 points ยท Posted at 00:18:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bonus pro tip: when interviewing, donโt ever forget that the interviewer probably wants you to succeed.
Itโs in the companyโs best interest to stop the hiring process as soon as possible, so if you miss an interview like OP, itโs very likely rescheduling is a very good move and likely to happen.
ohyouknowhangingout ยท 400 points ยท Posted at 01:48:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. Every time I walk into an interview, I hope to god that this is going to be the person I hire. Itโs so important to hire the right person but I always want it to be over as soon as possible because of how time consuming it is and because it means weโre a person down and everyone else is picking up the slack. Itโs also not something I particularly enjoy doing.
Also, I have rescheduled interviews for people that missed them because sometimes shit does legitimately happen, but itโs not a good way to start things off and I also donโt think Iโve ever hired someone that did miss the originally scheduled interview.
marvelman853 ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 03:54:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did you not hire them mainly because they missed the interview or were there other factors that contributed and they just happened to also miss the originally scheduled interview?
TabbyFoxHollow ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 06:12:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve never not hired someone because of lateness issues, especially if it was very plausible. Like getting the first call scheduled can be tricky, especially if itโs video. Iโve run into technical difficulties and been late when Iโve been on the hiring side so I understand (course I send a courtesy โrunning late, sorry!โ Message)
The last person I remember who was late, I walked in completely open minded and willing to pretend it didnโt happen. She tank the interview because she barely let us get a word in edgewise. Shame because she was knowledgeable and qualified, but between her lack of perception of social cues (we tried to interject several times, her role would be employee facing too) + her lateness, I formed the opinion that she was bad at time management and the type of person who would take an hour to explain something that a reasonable person could do in 5min
AMViquel ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:39:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you were in the youtube video business, that would be a very important quality. Also first level support, you need to teach the customers to not even bother calling.
TabbyFoxHollow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:33:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Corporate payroll and benefits. We want to answer employee questions, but our workload is not budgeted to spend half a day directly speaking with employees. Especially when most of it is off topic, like employee asks question A, she talking about scenario Z 25min later.
Ikari1212 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:13:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey. Hijacking your thread. I am about to finish uni in double the time it would normally take for a person to finish. A question that has been bothering me for a few weeks now is how much information in an interview should I give to explain of why ? It's been a mix of bad decisions (time management and subject scheduling since subjects overlapped and I needed to split them doubling the amount of semesters for that certain subject), me prioritizing my job over uni and family matters (my sister got diagnes with paranoid schizophrenia so i had to take it slow for about 1 year to take care of all the things my parents couldn't because they aren't socially and mentally equipped to both accept and deal with the diagnosis). I know that answering the question with 'it was a mixture of bad decisions making and family issues' might be too honest but also just naming the illness of my sister would only be half the truth not explaining why it would have taken the double time and might sound an awful lot like a bad excuse. More time yes but not double. Are employers even interested as to why ? What do you think might be a wise answer in that direction of questioning ?
langlo94 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:52:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I would just say that you were delayed because of health issues in the family. It's generally best to not mention mental health issues during an interview.
RegularOwl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:34:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think anyone would ask you about it, but if they do just say you were working your way through school.
Ikari1212 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:07:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks to everyone that answered. I really appreciate it.
littlenogin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:26:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine you can go wrong with stating that you had a lot of personal problems at the beginning, so had to work harder afterwards to make up the lost time
Don't bother admitting to your past personal failures in an interview, especially if you've already learned from them.
ohyouknowhangingout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:40:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No one is going to know how long it took you to complete unless you volunteer that information. You donโt need to list your start date on your resume and an employer isnโt going to ask. If itโs required on the application then list it but no one will ask you about it. They really only care that you have the piece of paper, not how long it took you to earn it.
If for some reason it does come up, just explain that you were also focused on your job so it took you longer to complete. If you do feel like you need to mention the other factors, only mention that a family member had health issues that you had to take some time off of to help with but that it is now resolved. Donโt mention the illness. Itโs none of their business anyway. Both of those things are totally understandable and happens more than you probably realize. Donโt mention any of the other stuff or go into too much detail. Short and to the point is best.
Ikari1212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay thanks. I think in Germany the amount of semesters is displayed on the graduation. But I will keep the tips in mind. Stay honest and vague
ohyouknowhangingout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I really wouldnโt worry about it. The fact that youโll have earned your degree while working and completed it despite having taken time off, shows dedication and a commitment to following through on things you start.
โI took time off to focus on my job since I was supporting myself financially while in school and resumed my education once I was able to because I was committed to earning my degree.โ
Now itโs a strength. If the job youโre interviewing for is related to your degree then you can also add that your passion for the field was a driving factor in earning your degree because itโs something you want to do long-term, which shows that you are actually interested in the position and view it as a career opportunity rather than just a job.
Ikari1212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:48 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm my biggest critic. Gotta dial that one back in a job interview ! Thanks again.
ohyouknowhangingout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It was other factors (not prepared for the interview, not being a good fit for the team/position, difficulty discussing experience on resume, generally bombing the interview), but missing an interview seems to be a good indicator of how the interview will go and the persons general professionalism. If I wasnโt going to hire because of the missed interview then I wouldnโt reschedule it.
MysticalKittyHerder ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:38:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny cause someone who was hired recently at work was late for their first interview
Well it will come as no surprise to anyone that he's always late for work and calls in sick quite often
langlo94 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:54:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing, if you show up on time on the interview they'll start expecting you to show up on time for work as well. Best to nip that in the bud.
EpicNight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:21 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey are you hiring :D
Dr-Rjinswand ยท 698 points ยท Posted at 00:34:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the time, interviewers donโt care because they have applicants in waves. They will interview the whole group regardless โjust in caseโ there is someone better.
If youโre the only person in the hiring loop - youโre either a perfect fit in a job with ridiculous requirements or the company is atrocious.
nucumber ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 01:29:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
the managers i know don't have time to interview any more people than they must.
say we get 50 applications. there might be 10 that look good and we'll talk to the top three or four of those. if none of those work out we'll talk to the next three.
Mike312 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:39:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty much been my experience. Helped with hiring for a graphics studio I was lead designer at, so whenever we were hiring designers, I'd be brought in to evaluate them.
Basically, we'd post a job and by the next day have 120+ resumes and shut the posting down. Right off the bat, 3/4 of them would be junk, like we posted for someone with 2 years of experience with Photoshop, and we'd end up with a bunch of resumes that didn't have any Photoshop experience. So 90 right out.
The other 30 or so we'd actually look at to see if they met all of the qualifications as well (like, Illustrator, or even just any actual job history). Usually of those 30 we'd end up with 10 or 15.
Of the remaining 10-15 we'd call to set up an interview time. Basically every call would go to voicemail, you leave a voicemail, and about half would call back to set up an interview.
So basically every time we'd post a job, we'd get 120+ resumes over night, but only be able to set up around 3-5 interviews.
And even then 1/3rd of people were no-shows to the interview with no call or message, and another 1/3rd we'd find out were grossly unqualified when they brought in a portfolio. So usually we'd end up with 1, sometimes 2, candidates.
Total shit-show.
oftentigre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
Scharei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:02 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel sorry for you.
Hopelesz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:45:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's job dependant.
mrfurion ยท 590 points ยท Posted at 00:59:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure what field you're in, but when I interview to fill a role I'm usually shortlisting a maximum of 6-8 people. My field is fairly specialised and there's no way I'm wasting days of my time interviewing people who don't already look really good on paper.
If one of my top 3 candidates missed their interview because they slept in, I would reschedule their interview because I'd rather have someone really competent who sleeps in occasionally than someone unqualified who shows up on time.
exoalo ยท 398 points ยท Posted at 01:09:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Eager but unqualified. The golden retriever candidate
TDAM ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 01:12:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So many golden retrievers.
YouJustReadBullShit ยท 172 points ยท Posted at 01:52:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not actually a bad thing. I am a PMP/CSM and had it out with our CEO and National Sales Manager for hiring people in their 50's who have been making 100K a year for 2 decades. Put up a fight for a bit to hire 3 complete newbies to replace the ones we were getting rid of. I got 2. Those two outsell 8 of the other 9 combined.
You can train skills for your field, you can't train eagerness. Great for sales, business admin. Horrible for chemistry and accounting.
Both have their benefits. This is why people who are changing careers make some of the best employees. They are fresh and eager, not overly qualified but passed whatever needed to be passed to honestly apply for that job so they are capable.
snaxolotl7 ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 02:08:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
looks at username
Tabanese ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 02:12:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. Funny. If you normally read the username before the comment, then they are saying 'You just read bullshit. Here is the real information.' However, if you read the username after the comment, then they are saying 'What I just said is what is bullshit.' :)
PM_ME_UR_SPACECRAFT ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:22:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
mind goes pop
MarioBangsLuigi ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:23:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
sometimes it be like that
annul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
everything that guy just said is bullshit
uh, thank you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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GivePuppiesBazookas ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:55:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Getting a PMP is one of the lengthier certifications to get, it's why they can make 80k+ to start at mid size companies. You have to either have a bachelors and a few verifiable years of basically being an acting PM or you have to be an acting type PM for 5 years and like 40 hours of training. A PMP is a far cry from a weekend course. It takes a lot of hours, literal years.
jnjd8gbhjdqwd3 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:11:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hire for attitude, train for skill.
NonStopKnits ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I've known a few managers in the service industry that prefer to hire eager and inexperienced people because you can train good habits to an eager person pretty easily, but someone experienced that has formed bad habits is gonna be harder to break the bad habits and form good ones. This is obviously not a standard, just something I've noticed from some managers.
relykdota ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:12:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Amen to this. Give me an wager, but unqualified person over a lazy qualified person any day. I can train and mentor anyone who is willing.
jd8001 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:18:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When I hire I have a three criteria test:
If they're interviewing they are at least minimally qualified.
fleta336 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:43:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nailed it. Havenโt seen someone write this down but thatโs how I have felt about my mentors but never put their process so succinctly, thanks.
TDAM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or they embellished on their resume. But you make a good point either way.
fleta336 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:43:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nailed it. Havenโt seen someone write this down but thatโs how I have felt about my mentors but never put their process so succinctly, thanks.
fleta336 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:43:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nailed it. Havenโt seen someone write this down but thatโs how I have felt about my mentors but never put their process so succinctly, thanks.
3-methylbutylacetate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I recently switched fields and was chosen for my position over a handful of internal candidates who had YEARS of experience more than I did, because they wanted someone who would be motivated and content for a few years. They definitely got it; I love my job so much and intend on staying for a long while. I was really shocked though, considering I have no experience, but Iโve met the internal people who wanted my job and theyโre all a bit jaded so it kind of makes sense now.
TDAM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sure. Depends on the role.
I hire for a very specialized technical role. The few golden retrievers I have hired have blown up in my face.
Eagerness to get the job is not the same as eagerness to excel at the job.
Sawses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. I just got hired for a biology role and while I have a degree, I don't know dick about what I'm doing.
They're basically training me from almost the ground up.
3-methylbutylacetate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs true of most people fresh out of college, and they know what theyโre signing up for when they hire someone like you. It can actually be desirable because they can train/specialize you the way they want to, rather than having someone come in who is rigid in their way of doing things. Use all the training to your advantage and take every opportunity to learn new things. Itโll help you at the next step!
WTPanda ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:45:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They can be taught!
Octaro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:48:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
From experience, not always.
flumphit ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:53:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The dachshund candidate.
โShould I bark at this?โ
โHow about this?!?โ
โMUST KILL MUST KILL!!โ
moehoesmowoes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:50:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The real issue is, once they get comfortable and past permanent hire status, they become the Basset Hound candidate. Lazy, shiftless, but can sniff out a way to bend rules or save their ass like a fiend.
Z0rya ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be willing to offer up a kidney at this rate for just an entry level. :(
HipsOfAViolin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've had interviewers flat-out tell me they're talking to other candidates who are more qualified and have years more experience than I do (for entry-level jobs). They then ask why I should be hired > others. I always want to ask them "Well why did you waste both of our time by calling me in here if you're obviously not going to consider me for the position?"
It makes me feel unenthusiastic about job interviews, nevermind the tedious and repetitive applications online.
APBpowa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: don't show up on time to interviews.
Boy times have changed since I was a teenager.
MsWhatsit83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I call them human labradors. Sometimes you can mold them into a decent employee, but usually end up having to send them in their way eventually, which always feels like shit.
DiscretionFist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:59:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you're not very good at molding them?
Rottendog ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:25:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not the previous poster, but for us, honestly it depends on the job we're filling.
If it's a highly skilled job, we might select 8 or 10 to interview of which we are already eyeballing 2 or 3 as the top candidates based off the resumes.
Sometimes the job requires more than 1 position to be filled of the same job type or lower skill type. Then we might do the waves. Get as many people interviewed as possible to fill in the multiple open slots, so we can fill them quick.
captainAwesomePants ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 02:20:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I interview programmers. We always need thousands of them, the resume pile is mostly a mix of optimism and lies, the pay range for the profession ranges from $40k to $400k depending on surprisingly little, and the most popular hieing techniques seem to mostly involve skimming resumes for buzz words, having candidates solve a series of 45 minute academic exercises in a row that have little to do with the job, and then flipping 4 quarters and offering them a job if they all come up heads.
debbiegrund ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:35:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm going through this right now. Looking for a new programming job. I feel like I am needing to inject more buzzwords because my resume is too simple. Iโm good at what I do and I get shit done. But everyone wants to see modern buzzwords and tech that no one fucking understands and probably donโt need. Just over it, ready to become a teacher haha.
captainAwesomePants ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:23:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Network. Get people to refer you. Helps you mostly skip the buzzword detectors. Practice for the whiteboard exercises; they're a skill and it can be greatly improved with some practice. Then repeat over and over until the quarters come up heads. It can be disheartening, but try not to take it personally. I've failed several, and once I got asked to leave before the day even finished because I failed too badly in the first half. But I've also passed some.
Gimligetsthering ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:45:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I know a lot about tech hiring practices from my occupation, and I'd say you basically got it. For the bigger tech it's usually networking although they do take resumes from top prospects (schooling, other tech firms), and then the main thing is the whiteboard exercises and talking through it. They want you to be able to code out whatever the problem is, and really work through it. Consider different ways to do it and what's most efficient, possible issues, and then the code has to be solid too.
But they're primarily looking to see the thinking behind it and that the skills are legit there. Where people fail is when they just rush through it quickly, thinking it's timed and they get more points being fast. The interviewers instead like the deep dive and to have everything explained, to see how you think. And of course this stuff will go through panels and there are different levels "confident, not confident, etc." from that panel, so it doesn't even matter if one person doesn't like you.
There's also the fact that there are multiple different roles. You have to know what you're interviewing for, but if you hit it out of the park for another role you WILL be considered for it and might even be outright told to apply and you'll get the job. For instance the coding is less important if your career trajectory has you moving into management, at that point your ability to see the issues and then manage people under you becomes a bigger deal.
scattersunlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Look into triplebyte
nomoredrivinginLA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:39:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever hired anyone, and then realize later that they were completely full of shit both in their resume and their interview? My idiot of a manager finally hired someone to help me and this person doesn't even know the most basic elements of my job. I would think that this is grounds for dismissal, but he wants to keep her around to do the tedious stuff. I've never worked with anyone who is as unqualified as she is. It's almost like hiring a programmer who doesn't know what variables are. It's so stupid.
captainAwesomePants ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:17:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It happens. There are two scenarios: they're new at this, and they're dumb as bricks. If they're new at this, it's not so bad. It won't actually speed you up, but you give them very small tasks and treat it as a mentoring exercise. They get better. One of the best engineers I've worked at came in at basically zero and made zillions of mistakes that we constantly corrected him on. But he only made each mistake once, and within a couple of years he was fantastic.
If they're dumb as bricks, you just try and survive.
For either scenario, code reviews are critical.
forthe_loveof_grapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha I lost it at the quarters!! It is really like that sometimes
a-breakfast-food ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:00:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For me it'd be a red flag.
But one red flag doesn't disqualify a candidate if they look good otherwise.
Now if they were over 10 minutes late for the rescheduled interview then they are out.
PracticeSophrosyne ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:22:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. I've done a small amount of hiring in a very NOT specialised field (libraries) and we sat down to talk to maybe 8 people max.
Every step of the hiring process was about weeding people out. If we sat down and weighed each and every of our 200 applicants against each other it would have taken a month of full time work - and when you're hiring multiple people a year, nobody has that much time for a single role!
So hiring is (or at least was for us) about whittling down the list to the final few. And the criteria used are pretty arbitrary and based on some major assumptions, but it's a necessary evil.
There may be folks out there who are AMAZING at their work, but if they have a lot of typos in your CV, it reflects low attention to detail, and it's likely going on the 'no' pile. If the instructions for applying said to submit certain documents but these documents haven't been submitted, it shows a failure to follow instructions. If it's a generic CV with no mention of our company in the goals or objectives or cover letter, or the skills listed have nothing to do with the work that we do, it suggests that the applicant is just throwing hundreds of CVs out there and doesn't really care about the work we do. If they've just finished high school we may say no or yes depending on the situation and the level of role were hiring for. Likewise if somebody is way overqualified we may say no. Unsure why, but I assume it's about anticipating that this person will be under-stimulated and likely to quit due to boredom.
These aren't hard and fast rules, and these are coming from a very brief hiring experience I had, so I might be totally wrong! But I hope it gives folks some idea of how it worked for me, and how important it is to ensure you're showing the company that you want the job!
Sammystorm1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:02:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sleeping in can be an indication of a bad employee though
-Ernie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:51:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely, but thatโs the beauty of the LPT, the interviewer in this case doesnโt know why he didnโt answer the call, so they donโt have any basis to pass judgement.
white_genocidist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There are many different scenarios for interviewing so what they said is not wrong. I've experienced many interviews in structured setting and/or processes where they have to see a set number of people in one day or over the next several days, and I have had interviews where I knew that once they found the right person they would stop and make an offer before interviewing another.
For example, the interview process in law school or right after is very much the former setup. It's a structured process where law firms interview a fuckton of candidates of several days or weeks, sometimes in 20 mins of half hour intervals.
TheGreatRandolph ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:06:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know what field youโre in, but lately I call people wishing they would take the job. Also we donโt really interview, theres a short phone convo at most. We are nearly 100% word of mouth.
But we do not deal with lateness. Yes, I was at the Rat too late again. Weโre all hungover, and no one actually wants to be here except the golden retriever... and heโll learn soon. If youโre late, you get a plane ticket home. Bye. I ainโt got time for that. (But Iโll probably call again next season!)
FastWalkingShortGuy ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 01:03:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That might be true for entry-level positions, but for more specialized roles, requirements and qualifications winnow out the wheat from the chaff in the recruiting stage, before it even gets to the hiring manager's desk.
The person who actually hires for those roles sees maybe only three or four resumรฉs come across their desk.
DenseGeologist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:33:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs how it is for my field in a late-game career role. Recruitment at this stage is just setting up a conversation with the hiring manager to see if itโs a good fit for everyone and, if so, itโs pretty easy to find mutually agreeable compensation. My peers already did the filtering before I got the first email from HR.
When I interview candidates for peer positions, or something somewhat adjacent to my group, thereโs a good bet someone already decided theyโre getting hired. Iโm not interviewing for qualifications. Iโm mainly looking for red flags the others might have missed.
Bozorgzadegan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:25:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I wish. My recruiters don't understand what my team does so their recommendations -- positive or negative -- are not good indicators of good candidates. (Large company ; tons of business units)
ItsKrakenMeUp ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 01:09:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Applications in waves? Are you referring to a fast food job or an actual career job?
Krogsly ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:17:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I read that to mean, "HR has 6 candidates. 2 scheduled to interview each if the next 3 days. If 1 misses a day, you can group the interview into your next day's schedule."
As opposed to " I have 6 interviews today and that's all I have room in my schedule for. You miss interview day, you have no shot."
I could be wrong though, since I can't read minds.
2813308004HTX ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:21:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I work in banking, we have โsuper daysโ, 1 day of in person interviews (after two phono interviews) with 6-10 candidates. And we all circle up that afternoon and choose the candidate or two to offer. If a candidate misses that then theyโre SOL
jfurt16 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:26:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Similar in the accounting industry as well. For us, that tends to be only on the campus recruiting side though. Experienced hires don't usually have super days
2813308004HTX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good point and fair caveat, tends to be same for us as well
LiquidSean ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:04:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yup same here. Much more convenient (and arguably more fair) to get it all done at once
TugPhelps ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:59:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This kraked me up, thanks for the laugh
Paratwa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What? Dude have you ever interviewed people? Itโs seriously the most exhausting thing I do, I am actively hoping to find a good person with the right skills AND attitude, attitude being a far bigger weight than skill.
liquid_diet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:50:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not true at all. Hiring a new employee costs more than retaining an experienced but well paid employee.
FromGreat2Good ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:57:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a big firm. When I had a job posting for a project manager and told HR Iโll do all the screenings, just send over all resumes I received 150 of them. I basically spent 20-30 seconds on each resume on the first pass, got about 15 of them and then spent 2-5 minutes to short list those down to maybe 3-5.
No way in a corporate environment do people have the manpower to interview whole groups or waves of people...definitely not for specialized roles.
larki18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
*or alternatively they could be an internal candidate!
well-its-done-now ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talked with a hiring manager on reddit a few weeks ago. He said when he puts out an ad, although he might get 100+ applications, after he throws out everyone that didn't follow simple instructions in the description (he asked them to include a cover letter) and people who are completely unqualified, there are typically only a handful of applicants.
MathTheUsername ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:15:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe in entry level cashier/retail/customer service positions. I can promise you no one is hiring in waves for any meaningful role.
Sawses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got hired recently... Pretty big company too, so a name most would recognize, though I'm hardly in a prestigious role.
They interviewed me and offered to hire within two days. It's a month later and apparently they haven't found another candidate despite being a fairly desirable role. It's...uh, kinda surprising. Because I am decidedly not exceptional.
Decisive_EmuVictory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or you already have an 'in' with the company
PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Idk I missed a phone interview once, didn't give an excuse, and they never responded again.
Freaking acceleron pharma.
misselletee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, I was likely the only applicant for my role (I also an internal lead that referred me into the role). Company is a shitshow.
a_canteloupe1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on your field. In my field, interviewing is a huge process and might include bringing people in that aren't local. Nobody wants to spend even more time interviewing candidates because it's such a time consuming process. Usually a few receive phone interviews and 2-3 get in person interviews.
artvandelay7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's a generalization that is not even close to true. Please be more conservative with the info you share unless you have the credentials to support your claims.
eof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Depends. I interview 5-10 people a month minimum as we are pretty much always looking for developers
idrive2fast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's really gonna depend on the job. I got the offer for my current job while walking back to my car from the interview - they didn't want me to interview anywhere else.
Ruski_FL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Eh it depends if hiring is their full time job or if itโs a manager who has their shit to do
Gadgetman_1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Some companies reduce the number of applicants to less than 10 before inviting candidates for interviews. (I know we do. Sometimes there's as few as 3. but because we're a government agency, sometimes one of those is not even qualified, because 3 is the fewest we're allowed to interview. )
In those situations it's better to assume that you're competing against other people just as qualified as you. You really don't want to be the one that had to reschedule.
RuralRedhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not always true, I work in a specialized field in a rural area, our applicant pool is usually very slim and hiring is difficult.
flacopaco1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Perfect fit with ridiculous requirements. Everything I know I learned on the job and it's so god damn boring. I tell people I push a button and that's my purpose. Pays the Bills but dear God I am not dying at this job.
TheGreatRandolph ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:13:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was recently on a boat for a job, slept 2 hours, went out in below 0 weather to work, and a wave swept the deck and slammed me into the wall on the far side. I could die at this job.
Sometimes I wish I was a better button pusher. Unfortunately offices and I donโt get along. Maybe itโs the false authority figures? Middle management too big for their britches?
flacopaco1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not gonna lie man I would rather die at your job.
superkeer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:45:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Make no mistake, though, being late to or outright missing an interview definitely puts your candidacy on the back foot. If my very first impression of someone is their inability to meet a significant life obligation, there better be damn good reason for it, otherwise it's an uphill battle.
Vitalstatistix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I would notice and I would never hire someone who missed an interview without explaining what happened. And unless their excuse was a legit emergency I would never hire them. They are clearly unreliable and rude.
cmcewen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I love this entire comment section. Itโs such standard delusional Reddit. Shocked they canโt get ahead in the world while constantly making excuses for why unprofessional behavior should be embraced.
โInterviewers donโt Care that you missed it!โ
Yes, yes they do. Any professional job will absolutely care that itโs your first professional interaction and you were late or not present. Itโs absolutely a bad look. Iโm in the 1% of earners, I once just rescheduled an interview half way across the country weeks before it was to happen. I lost the job because they said they thought if represented that I didnโt really want the job and so they interviewed another candidate the week before me and hired them.
Yes, it matters
swampfish ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:03:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I interview a lot of people for professional positions. I can say that the applicants who donโt show or donโt show on time absolutely donโt get a second chance. That is just about the worst first impression you can make.
I often schedule three upper level staff to sit in on your interview. Now I am paying professionals to sit and twiddle thumbs because you couldnโt get your shit together.
If you miss your interview you will have zero chance at most jobs.
Hiring is really risky. I will repost the job over hiring someone risky. Itโs next to impossible to fire crappy employees.
FastWalkingShortGuy ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:59:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, 90% of a job interview is dependent upon the work you did in the years leading up to it. If you're getting called in for an interview, you're already on the short list. 9% is whether or not there's someone better qualified than you in the running. The last 1% is how you conduct yourself in the interview.
Dress your best, speak clearly and answer questions to the best of your ability.
The hiring manager has likely already made up their mind and is just confirming their choice face to face.
So take a deep breath, relax your shoulders, and consider being asked to come in a complement, and you'll do fine.
moehoesmowoes ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 01:54:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a hiring manager, no.
The vast minority of candidates are just social checks. Can they speak, are they real, do they have any glaring deficiency.
The rest of them are a game of deciphering whatever bullshit they wrote on paper vs what they actually know or can contribute. People will fluff up resumes and think that they are getting away with whatever lies they put on there, but if you can't answer basic open ended questions with any specialized knowledge everybody in the room knows what they're looking at.
FastWalkingShortGuy ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:02:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a hiring manager as well, the phone interviews usually weed out the impostors (I know when people are googling the answers to my questions, and yes, I have had people very obviously do that before).
The face to face is really just to make the final pick, which I've usually already made in my head.
UltraRunningKid ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:50:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ya, I don't know if I would bring in a candidate unless I was already nearly certain his previous work was enough for me to hire him. The phone call is what that is for.
It's usually pretty obvious when someone is bluffing about things on their resume, especially when you start asking questions about their involvement.
Face to face for me is usually judging their personality and I like to do "The Airport Test". Mainly, would I be ok talking with your for some extended time if our flight was delayed.
That's why my small company and my manager always takes the candidates out to lunch after the interview. We are clear that the interview itself is over, we aren't going to talk work at lunch, we just want to see how to mingle with the team. Is the candidate trying to hard? Are they able to disagree with someone, or are they a yes man?
FastWalkingShortGuy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:58:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, I just realized I have been doing the "airport test" for years without even consciously realizing it.
I like to meet candidates at the security desk when they check in and small talk them in the elevator. You can get a very good bead on someone when it's just the two of you in an elevator.
Plus, I find small talk (How was the drive in? Much traffic? Beautiful day out, isn't it?) can give you a good read on someone's general attitude, and also relaxes them and lets you see a bit of their real personality, and not a facade they put on for the interview.
If you bitch about the commute on your way to the interview, I'm going to lose confidence in you as a viable candidate.
efuipa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like the interview isn't over by lunch, lol
UltraRunningKid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We always joke about that. We are honest when we mean we aren't going to bring up work at lunch, a lot of time the candidate will because its a more comfortable time to ask questions, but we won't.
Then again, it should be a two way street, I assume they are assessing whether or not they would like to join our team as well.
cortanakya ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:01:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever had somebody that was so charismatic and likeable that you changed your decision from somebody better suited but boring?
FastWalkingShortGuy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:11:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but it was early in my career and I learned my lesson.
Always prioritize proven accomplishments over charisma to get the results you want.
Charismatic people can bullshit your pants off if you let them. The key is to be able to smell the bullshit when they start laying it down.
The only exception I can think of to this rule is sales. You want a good bullshitter in sales, as long as they never promise more than they can deliver to a client.
RegularOwl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not who you asked, but I've had the opposite - people who seemed fine on paper but an in person interview made it clear I would NOT want to work with them.
gelinrefira ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:14:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Haha... I'm the opposite. I have anxiety of putting down skills unless I am absolutely sure I can do it. Do I use "proficient in," or "experienced in"?
I did this thing for a number of times with another colleague, pretty sure I can replicate the system or results but I did not receive formal training, so is it a legit skill? Do I need some cert for this? Is there a cert for this? Hmmm...
moehoesmowoes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:16:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Haha you dont have to overthink it too much. Honestly your job and experience are most important, along with a willingness to learn, take feedback, and be proactive. A lot of jobs is just learning the job!
jeopardy_themesong ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:55:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The best resume fluff is up selling true stuff. I once put on my resume that I increased participation in process improvement on my team by 100%. The number of people participating went from 2 to 4...
moehoesmowoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:58:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely true. Know how to sell yourself, if they catch you in little stuff like that they'll probably appreciate it more than anything else
jeopardy_themesong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fortunately nobody asked and it was something I really did spearhead. Did a presentation for it and everything. I was relentless about encouraging participation. Thatโs what I focused on. And it was technically true.
beenherebefore24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey that works completely and shows that you are someone that can motivate groups of people.
GoodAtExplaining ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well damn if that's how you approach interviewing me, let me know what company you work for so I can avoid it.
moehoesmowoes ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:41:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm always weirded out by people like you. Like, how ignorant do you have to be to try to leap to the broadest conclusion possible on the least amount of information. Avoid deez nuts.
GoodAtExplaining ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:48:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well damn, thanks for reinforcing that shit now.
Insectshelf3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:02:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
i am saving so many comments in this thread
TangoChill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto
googleduck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol this could not be less true at my company. I mean your past experience is critical to landing the interview but after that point your hire/no hire is basically entirely dependent on your performance in the interview. But that's in tech so maybe it's more true in other industries?
Barrapa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:49:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dress nicely, but appropriately for the role. If someone came to interview with me in a suit, I would assume they don't understand our industry or work culture. Not an immediate reject, but definitely a poor start.
Edward_Nygma ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:57:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You would turn away someone for wearing a suit?
a-breakfast-food ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:04:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've interviewed people for programming positions and a suit shows they don't understand the culture and/or lack confidence in their job skills.
If they were entry level I wouldn't care. If they were experienced I'd be suspicious of their resume and drill them harder.
Over dressing for an interview isn't a red flag but it's a smell.
FastWalkingShortGuy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:42:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously it's dependent upon the sector.
You don't show up to an interview for a senior management position in a polo and khakis.
LordNav ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:30:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The experience part is something I've never considered before. If somebody has (allegedly) worked several similar jobs and still overdresses for the interview, I can see that raising some questions.
bloodyguthrie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's a yellow flag in my field, shows someone out of touch with the industry norms.
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Edward_Nygma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Huh.. I never thought of it like that.
Barrapa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:36 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not at all, but I would assume they didn't do their research or ask the recruiter about how to prepare or dress.
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beenherebefore24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If it says business professional, dress up for sure. A good conservative suit is fine. If it doesnโt say, do some research or ask the hiring manager/ recruiter. They will appreciate that you asked.
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beenherebefore24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck to you!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:46:43 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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beenherebefore24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:34 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs awesome man congrats!
Barrapa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:17 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am glad that helped... I really should have mentioned to always ask the recruiter. They want you to get hired because they are often paid based on filling the position.
s_02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
i like how a random manlet on reddit can just make shit up like he has any idea what is going on. no, this is wrong.
hengehenge ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:03:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also most good interview questions aren't "trick" questions. They're designed to get the most out of an interviewee. Stay calm, answer honestly (within reason) and you'll be alright.
Drunky_McStumble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. I've found one of the hardest parts of interviewing is to not lead the person being interviewed into saying what I want to hear.
All interviewers want the next candidate to walk through the door to be the one. Nobody wants to sift through hundreds of applications and dozens of interviews only to end up with a handful of mediocre finalists you have to reluctantly choose from. If someone comes in and nails it, it just makes everything so, so much easier; both for me personally and for the company's hiring process in general. We're genuinely all rooting for you, honestly.
t_hab ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They almost always have to interview the person. OP was rescheduled because otherwise, it looks bad on the interviewer's statistics. Of course, the interviewer knew that OP missed the appointment and was dishonest, so OP has talked himself out of a job with his horrifically bad advice.
At least he made the front page.
anata_baka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Shit dude, I interview mechanical engineers.
We only bring 2-3 to my company at a time. I've already screened you myself first, as a senior ME, before you even arrive. Your schedule will then last an entire day, and I have to set you up with three 2-hour sessions with multiple principal and chief engineers on my personal recommendation.
You waste my time, you're turbo toast.
syringistic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:02:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying its always the case, but in many industries interviews are entirely for show.
For HR reasons, if a position opens up the management might feel pressure to make it seem like its a free for all, while they already have someone in mind.
95% of interviews I have ever done have felt like just going through the motions so they'd have proof they interview someone random.
blazetronic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:33:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs in the companyโs best interest to stop the hiring process as soon as possible
No itโs not. They need to show they couldnโt fill this job that required 10 years of a programming language thatโs was developed 5 years ago so they can hire an H1-B.
pooperscooper6969420 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:55:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not at all how it works at my company, so ymmv
blazetronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, usually I get better mileage during summer
pooperscooper6969420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No idea where you work, but hiring costs money. As someone that interviews and hires sw engineers, Iโve never felt pressure to say no to people to go after an h1-b. Good luck too you, itโs not like that everywhere if you ever decide to change companies.
tansuit_dijon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:46:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
where do you work?
Not hiring engineers in Silicon Valley Iโll bet.
blazetronic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:47:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A multinational conglomerate that wants to hire internally from other nations and posts ridiculous job reqs
tansuit_dijon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:51:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sound great..lol
Tsuki_Yama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do recruitment interviews, and barring my system actually having an issue, I'd almost never hire someone who missed an interview... Seems to really depends on the situation and neccesity for a candidate.
BlackPresident ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Until they bring in the bad cop co-worker in the same role as the one youโre interviewing for thatโs low key threatened by your presence.
scotch_and_rudder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Interviews are an artificial process, designed to keep people out.
Raisinbrannan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's very helpful advice. It gives me a much better outlook on interviews
Beermedear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think there are probably arguments to be made for select roles in select markets (large hiring pool).
The part 1 of this LPT is probably obvious, but do your best to be on time.
When that fails, this is golden. Apologies > excuses.
i_speak_penguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I'm in the opposite boat here as an interviewer. Interviewing candidates is part of my job, because we're always hiring (I do an average of 2-3 interviews per week). Writing up the justification for why I think we should hire someone takes a lot more time than writing up the justification for why we shouldn't.
If a candidate is clearly not going to cut it, I usually end the interview a little bit early and then I get to do a very fast "nope not this one" kind of feedback. So, secretly, I'm always a little bit relieved when I can tell within the first 5 minutes that a candidate can't even write a line of code. Because then my feedback is easy ("Can't even write code, no hire.") and I get to go back to doing things I enjoy (I really dislike interviewing).
That being said, good candidates seem to happen pretty rarely where I work (like, 1 in 10, maybe even 1 in 20), so when I run across one I actually like I'm always rooting for them, and secretly hope they'll join my team.
shhajuqbejdnnwj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is nuts, if someone doesnโt turn up to a job interview Iโm conducting, I donโt hire them. They have to call beforehand with their reasons or be in hospital before I change my mind.
UnicornT-Rex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to be late to the interview for my last job. I called and told the person interviewing me and she was cool. Still got the job
Gaardc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A long time ago, I was looking for a job or two to pay for college. I got a call from a Subway manager wanting to meet the next day, unfortunately I already had an appointment for something Uni-related (donโt remember what but it was on a deadline thing). I told him I couldnโt that day at that specific time, but I would happily make it earlier or the day after. He hung up.
That location closed months after.
LOLBaltSS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
There's that, but also I've noticed most managers are booked so heavily that they often just assume they forgot about the interview and left you waiting. I make it a point to show up early for interviews (outside of the one time I legit got lost inside a maze of a building that was CMU's tech building) and usually I'm the one waiting for 15-20 minutes after the scheduled time. The managers I've had over the last 8 years have a total shit show of multi-stacked calendars of people vying for their time; so even for non-interview stuff; they have to basically choose which is more important to attend.
ImBonRurgundy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve hired many roles. If a candidate is running late or needs to reschedule itโs no problem as long as they give me as much notice as they can.
If they are running late but donโt say anything making me wait for 20 minutes just in case they show up then I almost certainly wonโt hire them
ColourfulFunctor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Unless theyโve already decided to do an internal hire but are required to do external interviews.
tofublock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of places have trouble hiring. They don't tell you this for obvious reasons, but it can be difficult given the industry. You always need to come in to an interview with the attitude that you are also interviewing the company. Ask a lot of questions and care about the details of how the company handles itself. Not only does this show interest on your part, but it also lets the company know you are evaluating them.
JessterKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My old boss would fire you in a heartbeat if you were late or absent during the probation period, no matter what the issue was that caused it, and she wonders why sheโd canโt keep a full staff
otterom ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:12:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol! Hahahahaaaaaa!
[inserts Jeff Bezos laughing meme]
Man! So good. If you haven't, consider joining a comedy troupe or something.
HR doesn't give a fuck if you succeed. There's a line out the door for that role and, let's be honest, HR needs to keep the hiring process in place to remain relevant.
RegularOwl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been interviewed by someone in HR, have you? All the interviews I've attended have been with the hiring manager or a hiring team which includes the hiring manager (but never anyone from HR).
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:58:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is true unless you're an ugly male.
If you're ugly, they have innate biases against you no matter what.
CumulativeHazard ยท 522 points ยท Posted at 01:32:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a pretty much compulsive over-explainer. I think itโs an ADHD thing. The woman who manages most of my projects at work is always telling me not to give to much info when I email someone asking for clarification. Like sometimes weโll be looking through some data and be pretty sure we know the problem/reason behind what weโre seeing, but when I email them she says to not mention that and leave it very open ended. Because if you ask them โis it because of this?โ Theyโll probably just say โyeah I think thatโs itโ without really looking into it and then later youโll realize they were wrong. But if you say โwhy is this?โ it puts a little pressure and responsibility on them to actually check and be sure.
ShowerMeWithAdvice ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 02:27:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, I do this as well and for me, i think its kind of because I don't want them to think I'm lying or holding back extra needed information purposely..
Like I want to make sure I tell the other person everything that I see and know about a certain situation so they don't have any additional questions later, but ultimately, it's better to say less than to say more in many situations from what I've experienced (I can't seem to break the habit though)
WolfTitan99 ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 03:05:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Omg I do this too with Reddit comments and irl. I just want to explain EVERY aspect about the thing and properly explain myself on whatโs wrong. Probably for fear of being misconstrued or something lol
SteadyStone ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:19:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same, so much. For work I like lots of information right off the bat, and I often provide what I'm currently trying to solve as well as the general goal, to avoid the XY problem. But they keep looking at me funny.
Gaardc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:15:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Saaaameeeeee, omg! I live as much info as possible and I like giving as much information as possible too. Really working on changing it
TeaDrinkingBanana ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:13:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's a grammar/ punctuation/ sentence structure mistake in your comment. But the LPT dictates that I do not tell you what it is.
Bonesince1997 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:05:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This thread is probably good advice. My fear, though, is that some people just want to leave things obscure. Without knowing one's intent it's hard to say exactly, but I think some people here are not being honest by leaving out details, and they know it. While "oversharing" may lead to some troubles, I think being as honest as possible and giving someone everything they should know is often appreciated. I know I feel better about giving someone everything I know, even if it hurts me in the end. Too many others here sound like they just want to give you the good stuff and let you find out the rest on your own. They sound like "read the fine print" people.
thesuper88 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:07:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
While I ethically prefer to give people everything I know, I've learned that doing so can serve me some unfortunate results. People claim my findings and info as their own. Make assumptions based on info I gave that was subject to change. Got annoyed with the "long complicated answer" to a long complicated problem when they just wanted to know if they could choose to stop thinking about it or not.
Now I see the value in the sentiment of this LPT. I give all immediately necessary info. Let them ask me for info later if they need it. I'm always friendly and helpful about it. Plus it seems to make a better impression on people. It took me a LONG time to learn this and I'm still learning to live it.
Bonesince1997 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you got that down! That's good.
lcotemi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:13:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My boss does this too. Today, for instance, a realtor called to find out what kind of building we are looking for, square footage and usage wise. My boss told him a ten minute story about what we have now, why we are expanding, what we hope to find...then got cut off-I wish I was kidding. Then he said, โ10,000 square feet, three offices, a reception area, a showroom area, two bathrooms. Ok. Ok. Thank you.โ
The realtor just didnโt care about the other details.
There was a time in my life when I over-explained. Then I realized people just donโt care. So I learned to hear โthey donโt care, shut upโ in my own voice. It stopped me from over-explaining. Maybe try that.
assspelunkers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do we have the same internal voice?
SilverHairedPenguin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:05:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I get verbal diarrhea because of anxiety and just start going on and on and on...... I am also trying to learn to keep my mouth shut. New Yearโs resolution. Itโs been mildly successful so far. Iโm still working on it. A work in progress.
assspelunkers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:37:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This, plus I can listen to myself talk all day.
Argarath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:48:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same thing for the same reasons! It's really really really hard to hold it back, specially when I'm actually speaking, when I'm doing that I don't really think, I just talk. I have no idea how people think before they talk in the middle of a conversation without completely stopping
Gaardc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:23:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Itโs why I love texting. I canโt be concise either but I can edit myself shorter at least
I always thought it was due to my first language being Spanish and the formal version being extensive (resulting in a convoluted, sort of stilted wording if you try and apply it to English). I guess thatโs not it.
lucky_719 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is me. The few times I haven't done this they've come back acting like I'm an idiot for not checking or trying something that was done. I'm trying to break the cycle but goodness I'm wordy. Starting to realize I enjoy responding to those people like 'of course I did x thing you dumbass, that's why I'm messaging you.'
musichatesyouall ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:53:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You did the thing
hppmoep ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:18:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Today in an email I spent 10 minutes writing out some explanation of why I was sending the email. Finally I just deleted most of it and sent it out. I got a favorable response. 10/10 will do again.
civ_iv_fan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:22:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah i only needed first and maybe second sentence of that big paragraph. I stopped after the third and wrote this comment.
bny100 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:36:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did you notice how much longer your comment is than the others? You just proved your own point
DoorInTheAir ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god this is me. My ADHD is just out of control
assspelunkers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:35:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same; like a mix of my anxiety and add. I've slowly started learning how to stop talking.
sleepsunawareof ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dang this is me too. I also have ADHD and I never really thought about it's connection to my need to chronically overexplain...
CentiPetra ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
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sleepsunawareof ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm not quite but okay.
CentiPetra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:40:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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Kaamii6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Than talk to him about it?
faggface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously we told him its annoying and in where we were possibly dangerous, he didnt care...
a-calamity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:48:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Over explaining also shows up as a trauma response to abuse. It is a really, really hard thing to break.
jajadu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
dang, is this me? did i post this through another personality? dejavu
Randi_Scandi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you me?
Iโm in data management and people are usually idiots that donโt know how to follow procedure....
outfrogafrog ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
i say, "hey, took a look and had some questions regarding this. could you take a look and let me see if you're seeing discrepancies on your side too? thanks"
neish ยท 348 points ยท Posted at 00:37:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, same information applies in an interview. People hate silence and it's a common tactic for interviewers to take their time to respond to you so that you keep talking. People can't stand uncomfortable silence so they will fill the void with chatter, and unplanned chatter usually leads to saying more than you meant to.
NotTreeFiddy ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 01:50:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is why you always accept the offer of a glass of water. Answer the question, allow some silence and the fill the void by slowly taking a sip of water. If there's still silence by that point, just say something to the effect of "Would you like me to expand further on anything?"
Anon10000000000001 ยท 183 points ยท Posted at 02:19:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did this during a police job interview, they took my water away mid way.
Explosion2 ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 02:44:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Were you also handcuffed to the table?
PandorasShitBoxx ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 03:40:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
taking a prolonged, 15-20 second drink before you responded to each question. Power move.
1cculu5 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 05:21:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And then still just reply, โwould you like me to expand further on anything?โ
Big_Ol_Johnson ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:37:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you not entertained?
AskYouEverything ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:53:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gulp chugging the entire glass powerfully and then asking for a new one with each question
EvilSandwichMan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:51:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And blow little water bubbles in the cup.
APBpowa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Drink the entire glass of water after each question, then ask for a refill before answering the next question.
newagain20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can just picture it now. Simple glass of water. Legs crossed, very slightly leaned back in the chair. Not so much to appear a slouch, but just enough to look comfortable and in control. Perhaps a nice cigarette in the opposite hand, smoke wafting gentling upwards from it. Stern eye contact, but not intimidating. Silence, except for the sound of ventilation humming very low.
Background-Wealth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You watch a lot of film noirs I think lol
riley_byrd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, thatโs me at the dentist rn. Theyโre probably so intimidated :0
sharkbait-oo-haha ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:48:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a police job interview would be more like an interrogation. Do they play good recruiter bad recruiter?
Anon10000000000001 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:46:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it was 3 personal panel interview. I was prepared for that kind of โpressureโ. As long as you got nothing to hide, youโll be fine.
sharkbait-oo-haha ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:55:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"As long as you got nothing to hide, youโll be fine." Your already speaking like a cop. I'm sure you did fine.
alexdoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:54:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They saw through your hijinks, and while I believe it's over reactive, I'd rather not have officers goof off when they start a career in law enforcement.
Even if it's a medical condition, what good is a cop on patrol who needs to drink water everytime they're asked a tough question?
Anon10000000000001 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:44:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It was a 6 hour interview process, I think having water is fine. Unless dry mouth is your thing ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Gumorak ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:02:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I like this tactic
jooshpak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:03:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mark Zuckerberg, is this you??
fleta336 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve never taken the water now I think Iโm doing it wrong. Haircuts, everything. Why donโt I take the water?
UnoriginalUse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, taking a sip of water when somebody asks a group you're in for a volunteer gets somebody else to volunteer without making you seem unwilling.
dootdootplot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well it makes you seem like youโre doing what youโre doing - avoiding volunteering by coming up with the extremely contrived โoh I would volunteer but Iโm busy sipping waterโ excuse.
If people are paying enough attention to notice, it wouldnโt work, and if theyโre not it doesnโt matter.
yyertles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:06:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always accept the coffee/water/whatever is offered in an interview - when people have done something for you, even if all they did was get you some water, they become invested in you. That's not limited to interviews either, if someone asks you if you would like them to do something for you, unless you really don't want it, just accept it. Turning someone down when they offer you something doesn't make them feel good, even if it is something as trivial as a bottle of water during a job interview.
goffstock ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:42:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't to trip you up in most places (toxic workplaces being an exception of course)--it's because they want to give you time to think of things to say.
I've been on the hiring side for a long time & hearing an interviewee give engaged responses will get a much better reception than terse answers. For a job of any responsibility, responding with as little information as possible is a good way to get yourself rejected.
The key is to stick to relevant information and not just ramble on about whatever comes into your mind. If you have no more to say, don't just keep talking about whatever comes into your mind.
neish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:50:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, sorryโI was thinking more in the context of interviewing for a news story, or interrogation, for that use of the tactic. For job interviews I should have said to just practice answering succinctly and let your answers breath so they can ask follow-ups.
Taminella_Grinderfal ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:27:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My boss is a master at this and Iโve learned so much. Dealing with a ranting client he will let them go on until they run down and then some, until there is a significant silence, then he will step in and calmly offer a solution. At that point the client has exhausted their bitching and is willing to listen.
cwisteen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And its not just a thin client/terminal?
skennedy27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds bizarre to me. When I conduct an interview, I might ask a question, listen to the response, and take notes. Taking notes can take a few seconds. Or I might have to pause to think of a follow-up question. Or we're done with that topic and your background doesn't make sense to ask my typical next set of questions, so I need to come up with something on the fly.
There's lots of silence, but it's not a tactic. It's just part of a thoughtful discussion.
donscron91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I work in B2B sales and for cold calling and this is gold. I just tell people what we do & how it could potentially help them and hope they talk to me.
I truly believe in what I sell, so that makes it easier.
killerz298 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Look at THIS guy going to interviews with water!
sadeland21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I chant " don't chatter don't chatter " ( to myself) before job interviews. It's so hard !!
Markstone510 ยท 1202 points ยท Posted at 00:31:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My father gave me the greatest advice ever when I was enlisting in the military.
Don't be first, don't be last, and DON'T VOLUNTEER!
It's served me well for decades.
Displaced_Yankee ยท 559 points ยท Posted at 00:42:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was given this same advice, but when they were handing out tasks in basic, all the good ones were going right away. I decided to get in on the action. They asked for another volunteer and I shot my hand up.
โGreat, youโre latrine queenโ
...fuck
fanpeople ยท 166 points ยท Posted at 00:45:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nice we had king shitter.
Displaced_Yankee ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 00:51:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That wouldโve been more appropriate, since we were a male flight (Air Force)
Markstone510 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:54:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't volunteer, became Shoe aligner! Got to show up late for breakfast and eat at an only slightly faster than normal pace(normal civilian pace, slower than the rest of the flight). Advice holds true!
Wjreky ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:43:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I'll bite, tell me about what a Shoe Aligner does
Markstone510 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:54:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone got ready in the morning, then lined up for chow. Bed aligners followed up and made sure beds were all aligned, shoe aligners followed them and made sure shoes were aligned to beds.
Basic isn't about making the best warrior its about making a great follower who will follow orders and a doctrine, ours was to mainly just blindly follow but it's not the brain wash you may think. It was a positive experience... After the fact :)
collapsing_sanity ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:09:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It aligns shoes.
DigitalSterling ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm interested like the other guy, what's a shoe aligner?
Markstone510 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:56:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone lined up to go to chow, bed aligners aligned the beds to to floor to be straight, shoe aligners followed by aligning shoes to be straight. We did it for our flight not just us, there had to be trust placed in your bed and shoe alignerers. No joke, that's a good part of it, trust in others but make sure they are doing there job. I fucked up someone's shoes, trust me, they would fuck me up.
DigitalSterling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the reply, that makes a lot more sense now. I like the structure of things like that in military, I'd like to imitate that in my own life but not nearly as hardline.
jamestere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly what you'd think... He aligned everyone's shoes, or checked that they were in the dorm before heading to breakfast
DigitalSterling ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So he just lined up shoes? It sounds like something you'd call a cobblers apprentice
jamestere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:23:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Watch full metal jacket. It will all make sense.
DigitalSterling ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's been a while, I think I will, thanks man
Markstone510 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You should but it was not like that at all. Yeah there was yelling and yes we all followed orders but remove all the extreme areas of part 1 and my experience with deployment was nothing like part 2.
jamestere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey np just didn't know what kind of comment about the US military I could make wouldn't get me downvoted/ no personal experience.
WtotheSLAM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember right we had like 5 pairs of shoes for various things and all of them had to be perfectly lined up under our beds every day. So a few people would spend time doing that every morning.
Some people would tighten the bed covers, other guys would clean the bathrooms, other guys would be doing laundry, it was lots of busy work every morning
eddnedd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:10:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's a salient lesson even for those of us not in the military - the purpose of the exercise is all about executing the order to the standard expected, no matter how silly, irrelevant or unpleasant it might seem - and not having to be told twice.
anna_isnotmyrealname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:35:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fellow shoe liner here!
Markstone510 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My shoe aligner experience served me well, I became a SNCO and served as a shirt :)
robywar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got pad sweeper. Best job ever!
sprint_ska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got the same advice, and stumbled into the Chapel Guide gold mine. A couple hours essentially off on Sunday mornings, chow with nobody watching... A stern warning to definitely not eat the snacks in that unlocked cupboard that we're going to leave you alone with in the chapel kitchen for an hour...
ImNotScotch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:58:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We had shithouse sheriff.
fanpeople ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:15:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck yes. Hahah
bang__your__head ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:56:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had same advice so I didnโt volunteer and ended up chromer. What is chromer you ask?? Well I had to wipe down the chrome. Which was the water fountain. I was first asleep every night.
SteadyStone ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:13:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I committed to not volunteering no matter what. When the MTI was about to pick the latrine crew, he was scanning the room. I made eye contact, since I was sure he was looking for people trying to avoid it. Didn't get picked; success.
After all the jobs were assigned, he said "if you haven't been assigned a job, then I guess you'll just also be latrine crew." So close.
firdabois ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:36:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I too had the honor of latrine queen. Until you've organized a bunch of mouth breathing slapdicks into a mighty pube removal force you just havent lived.
dannixxphantom ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 01:53:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad said the best compliment he received at the end of boot was one of the officers handing him his papers and asking, "who the hell are you?".
mshaw09 ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 02:35:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a similar experience. During the last day of Basic we got to take turns asking our drill instructor what he thought of us. When it got to me he said โI donโt know who you areโ. I consider that a win.
rRMTmjrppnj78hFH ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:02:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Whys that?
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:21:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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rRMTmjrppnj78hFH ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:55:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks.
montarion ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:01:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You also never impressed him, or opened up opprortunities.
JekTheSnek ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:07:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is irrelevant during basic training.
Gibborim ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:32:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A common rule of thumb is that any kind of instructor spends 80% of their time on the worst 20% of their students. If you've had no interaction with a student, they probably know what they are doing.
Markstone510 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:09:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yep!
Half way through when the drill instructor couldn't name me, I knew I was doing it right!
HGruberMacGruberFace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:47:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can always tell a Milford Man..
Jhuliette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad said the same thing. He said "You don't want any of them to know your name, because if they know it, they're gonna call it."
withparadox2 ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 01:08:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's the best way to keep safe, however, one may miss a greate opportunity if he sticks on this rule.
TDAM ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 01:12:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. It's a good way to always be in the middle of the pack, never failing, never succeeding.
Mattoosie ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 02:04:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, when it comes to the army I think that's a pretty good place to be in lmao
Goodwillflip ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:07:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The military is a job like any other.
PM_ME_YO_TITS_PLOX ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:04:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's still true for Boot camp. When you actually get a real duty station no one will give a shit how high speed you were in basic training. If you actually tried to brag about that people would laugh at you
Goodwillflip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:45 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No matter where you are in life no one gives a shit how good you were in the past. I'm not sure where you pulled anything about bragging of boot camp. In career military life out performing your peers is necessary for continued advancement and also offers many other benefits such as choice of deployments, duty stations and additional assignments.
As I said, in that aspect, it's the same as any other job.
PM_ME_YO_TITS_PLOX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:37 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You dumb fucker follow the thread.
I agree that it's shit advice in general and a terrible motto to live by. The guy said he received this advice right before he left to go to basic training. That's why I brought it up. In that environment outperforming your peers will do nothing but make basic more difficult for yourself.
I only mentioned bragging about it to further elaborate that it neither helps you in basic, or later on.
ooa3603 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:57:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's the tricky thing about success.
You need to be able to do both and know when too.
Balancing the timing of when to keep it safe and when to risk it all is difficult.
Then add to that the aspect of luck and it's no mean feat.
b4dhabits ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:15:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I assume the best of people saying this, but this sounds like the advice someone that wants to be successful would give, not the advice someone actually successful would give.
I once went to an old boss of mine about an opportunity I'd had my eye on and said "this is what I want when I'm ready" and he asked what 'ready' meant. I couldn't answer. He said "nobody is ever ready, just be the person comfortable with change and go for it".
I realized 'ready' was my excuse because I didn't actually want the opportunity, and I switched industry and career path completely two months later.
There isn't much of a balance, there's calculated risk. The kind of person to take those risks will likely fail a few times but it'll be inconsequential. That person is who will eventually succeed
bored-on-the-toilet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:19:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Needed this tonight. Thanks man.
TDAM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:06:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. Take calculated risks. You will fail some. That's fine. That's how we learn. Keep taking risks because you will also succeed with some.
Cunt_Bag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But you also avoid being the Tall Poppy. The more you stand out the more you become a target for ill will.
Mc_Whiskey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably good if you're in the military looking to keep your head down serve your time and get out. Not for a career you're hoping to be good at.
Phone_Anxiety ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:32:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'd prefer to be middle of the pack. Just average, really. Average is less stressful and comes with less responsibility. Less people depend upon you and your fuck ups are less impactful.
Less money? Absolutely. But that doesnt bother me because money is a vehicle to happiness and you can easily cultivate happiness with less stress and less responsibility.
TerminallyTrill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that's true.
If you are always the best you set expectations as well as put a target on your back.
I feel OP has the right attitude 99% of the time, you just need to know when to go all in on an opportunity for that 1% of the time
a-breakfast-food ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never volunteering means you'll never move up to the next position.
Fine of you want to stay in the herd though.
PM_ME_YO_TITS_PLOX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's a good motto for basic training. Not for the real world though
cgvet9702 ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 01:46:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I heard all that from my dad when I enlisted as well, but with one addition. Stay away from the guy who wants to be your best friend on the first day, he's a screw up. That advice works most places.
Beast6213 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:21:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve just spent a considerable amount of time thinking about this statement tonight. Over the 25 years that I have held a job, this has stood up at every single place. I was also a contractor for a number of those years so I worked for an irresponsible sounding amount of employers, at at every one...there was that guy.
cgvet9702 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:07:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, there really is always that guy. Who knew our dads would be right?
DandyBubbles ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:33:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. This one sentenced just recontextualiszed so many aspects of my entire life. I've always known "that" guy, and for some reason he would always attach himself to me cause he knew I would give him chances and bail him out of situations.
cgvet9702 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:15:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Everybody knows that that guy is a screw up and you run the risk of being painted with the same brush.
comicbabe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I heard this applied to office environments too. The person who wants to show you around on your first day and dish all the dirt about everyone else is one day going to be dishing the dirt on you to someone else.
cgvet9702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's a slightly different aspect. I experienced that once though after being hired for a management position. The person who showed me around, introduced me, and also gave me all the gossip about everyone we met was someone I later had to let go.
Chipmunkfunk ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:20:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just reminded myself - don't put your hand up at work to take on extra stuff when you're only part-time. Before you know it, you're getting shat on with tons more work than the full-timers!
Markstone510 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:11:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Give yourself fully to an organization that gives you their all as well. If they are offering half, maybe you should as well.
OneOfYouNowToo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:52:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle gave me similar advice before I went to Basic for the AF. He said โdonโt volunteer for shit and only speak when spoken toโ. I graduated Basic as an Honor Grad because I was basically invisible. Iโm not sure itโs the best advice for life in general, but when you have to survive within the herd, it certainly applies.
Markstone510 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:12:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well said, not for all situations but in the herd (military) it works well.
worstsupervillanever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck is an Honor Grad?
Bobanni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=basic+training+honor+grad
worstsupervillanever ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just don't remember this from basic training in 2002. But, thank you for the link.
Dick
OneOfYouNowToo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It existed in 92. Maybe they did away with it. It was barely more than completely meaningless.
scottycameron815 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:18:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a boss with this meeting philosophy: If you're early you're wasting your time; if you're late you're wasting everyone's time.
postedUpOnTheBlock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was told this to. It doesnโt serve you well. These are the guys we pass over for promotion.
Veeg-Tard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing is 100% of course, but at my agency, the hard working people who volunteer get promoted and the guys who tow the line don't.
I changed my life by working hard and volunteering to do whatever needed to be done.
eddnedd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I volunteer, lead, take on extra projects & responsibilities, work long hours, use my experience to take care of my colleagues. I get things done. The people I report to do only what they absolutely must; Never promoted and poorly considered, but they'll be at their high-paying jobs long after my contract expires.
YouJustReadBullShit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:55:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Your father was a seaman, wasn't he?
itsasecretidentity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Funny. Thatโs what my dad told me when I volunteered to run a school paper. I thought heโd be proud but he told me the most important lesson he learned in the Army was never volunteer.
Goodwillflip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It really depends. Some of the best opportunities come from volunteering.
BaboJango ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So pretty much donโt be a leader?
Markstone510 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:13:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So you haven't gone through basic, that's clear. Go ahead, be a leader in basic, let us know how it works out for you!
youtheotube2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, those who can lead usually do it naturally, itโs not something they can easily turn off. Thereโs a difference between being boot and being a good leader though.
BaboJango ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:15:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be a leader in life my friend. Itโs not a choice, but a way of living.
anon0937 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Before you lead, you must first learn to follow.
BaboJango ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I like that. Learning to be humble is important. Shirking doing what is right and not giving your all is not following though.
smegmaroni ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:16:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Were you drafted? I think you volunteered for at least one thing...
Markstone510 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I volunteered to enlist, it still holds true as good advice. Obviously there are exceptions, like volunteering to enlist... :)
Gaggle-of-Geese ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:35:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Solid advice if you want mediocre life
wilsonism ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Your father is very wise.
worstsupervillanever ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:34:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And very mediocre
wilsonism ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:42:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, most people work their asses off to be mediocre. Some folks just take what they need and do just fine
worstsupervillanever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What does that mean?
wilsonism ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:42:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always be careful about what comes out of your mouth.
worstsupervillanever ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:11:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're not making any sense.
Is this what passes for wisdom now?
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There is no perfect answer for every person and situation. You have to figure out what works.for you. Nobody is gunning for the guy in the middle.
worstsupervillanever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Please stop.
wilsonism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Literally the worst supervillain ever.
Stowaway9876 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:20:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Basic parts of life can be time and energy consuming. A lot of waking up early, going to work, doing chores, taking care of family, maintaining a social life, dealing with interpersonal conflict, health problems. For a lot of people, doing okay takes a lot of work. Some people accept that they wonโt be exceptionally skilled or super wealthy.
worstsupervillanever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tldr
Veeg-Tard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most people I meet definitely don't work their asses off. Most people do just above the minimum.
Vitalstatistix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Solid advice if you donโt want to fail terribly or succeed highly.
7hunderous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good advice, and it always served me well in the army! In basic training all of the duties were supposed to be organized by the bay boss, who was just another enlisted soldier that the Drill sergeants appointed.
Well I learned quickly that he was an idiot and didn't keep track of who did CQ or fireguard each night, and would always ask for volunteers. I just never volunteered, like the blue falcon I was, but by golly, I think I only ever did CQ and fireguard once each in 9 1/2 weeks.
Cant_Do_This12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Hell, I was high when I said that!"
Cluelessindivi_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I wish this would work for guys going certain routes in the military. Theyโll single you out and ask why you arenโt putting out and just barley making it. The grey man phase is dead. This is just how it goes for naval special warfare at least.
For other branches and jobs itโs best to blend into the pack.
Markstone510 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This was generic advice for basic training. I don't think it applies for spec ops or other careers in general even, it was advice for getting through basic.
Bodia01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But you said this advice served you well for decades?
Markstone510 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Many situations have been similar to basic where fitting in is more important than individual skills.
Howard_Campbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but sometimes they say "I need 4 volunteers" and the 4 who get there first are the only ones that don't get smoked.
cocobear13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
NAVY: never again volunteer yourself.
Aengeil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
no one give me this advice, but i always do this. dont want to stand out too much. love being invisible.
lnvisibleGhost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Currently serving in the military. Volunteering makes you a good person. Since you donโt volunteer, someone else gets picked anyways.
You might look better and get more opportunities when you volunteer like Airborne School or a Combat Medic course since your platoon sergeants may be more willing to sign off on a squared away soldier.
Martijngamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's why me and the wife only have threesomes now.
TommyVillain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This might not work for Apex Legends...
Edit: changed from Alex to Apex, for reasons...
BrerMatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this from the book Bill the Galactic Hero when I was like 12. โShut up and donโt volunteer.โ The example: drill sergeant asks if anyone can drive a truck - hand is raised - gets assigned latrine duty.
Plankzt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is shit advice anywhere else.
goodolarchie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:35 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Might keep your ass alive in the battle, but it's a recipe for mediocrity in life
Putins_Kumquat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:35:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And don't do your job too good...
RichardBonham ยท 534 points ยท Posted at 01:15:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is also extremely sound legal advice!
Keep answers brief.
Do not volunteer information.
It is OK to say โI donโt knowโ.
It is OK to say โI donโt rememberโ.
Grizelda_H ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 03:03:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โPlease tell us in your own words what happened.โ
โI was rear-ended at this location by this person.โ
The end.
Make them ask you the questions. Donโt tell a long complicated story about how carefully you were driving or about the traffic or how rude the person that hit you was.
splitfoot1121 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:29:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Show us on the doll where he touched you
darby-dev ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lime is acidic. These people are being rude.
Achiral94 ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 03:28:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Would you like a cup of coffee while you wait in the interrogation room?"
'I don't remember', answered the detainee.
langlo94 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:56:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Would you like to make a phone call?"
"I plead the fifth."
Achiral94 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:23:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You know, the police can actually listen to the phone call if you call anyone but your lawyer
langlo94 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:33:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that phone call should only be used for informing about where you are, arranging a meeting with a lawyer, or asking someone to post bail. Never talk about what and why.
Sky-of-Blue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Translation โ would you like to put your fingerprints on this cup while you wait for interrogation?โ
Aterro_24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"are you sure? It's free"
"I plead the 5th"
RalphieV ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:30:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But it's not even Friday...
https://youtu.be/JTurSi0LhJs
daalsat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or the often quoted phrase "I won't say anything without my lawyer". If it's kind of serious, that's one of the best things you can do. Say you did some stupid stuff when you were drunk. Don't tell the police that you were, but talk to your lawyer.
WeakTryFail ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:39:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Were you in the driver seat or the passenger seat at the time of the accident?"
"I don't remember."
Phoquy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I don't recall"
Tetha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or for audits / sales questionnaires with customers. Too much information often turns a sufficient "yes we do that" into a "Well maybe no but kind of" and then you're in the weeds of discussions. They'll ask for clarification for important parts.
Bluelabel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:56:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even better to say "no comment"
Mostefa_0909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I blead the 5th
GGATHELMIL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of that video that made it's rounds on Facebook of these two older looking gentlemen and the whole 15 second video was..
"Here is some free advice, if a cop asks you where you're going, shut the fuck up."
It lists 3 or 4 other things a cop might ask you and Everytime they just say "shut the fuck up"
Heavy72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I have no knowledge of the aforementioned incident, at this time"
Beelzebutthurt ยท 322 points ยท Posted at 01:20:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Back when i was 17 i was working at a golf course that was going under. Some old dude walked up to me and asked how business was. Weekends were always still busy, but really no one came on weekdays until twilight hours. Which was fine, i just played my GBA at my stand waiting for people to show up.
I said, slow! Youโre one of the first people to show up today!
Turns out he was the owner of the course. I no longer worked weekdays after that.
nor0- ยท 178 points ยท Posted at 03:14:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always say โsteady, you came at a good time.โ They donโt have to know that any time would have been a good time.
medizins ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:52:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The usual answer everyone gives where I work is "off and on," but "steady" is a way better answer.
coalcoalcoal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:20:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And "steady" can mean super ridiculously constantly slow.
LurkerAtHome ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:59:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't play golf. But if I did, I think I'd rather play on a course with fewer people, than one packed with other golfers. You should've been been given a bonus!
Beelzebutthurt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:19:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If only lol
UneasyEspeon ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:55:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I mean if you didn't even know who the owner was..
Beelzebutthurt ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 03:18:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fair. Dude was some multimillionaire and was rarely in the state let alone at the course. Wasnโt really a way to know him, obviously i knew my manager and my managers manager.
I didnโt get fired though, they just cut our hours to the weekends which honestly was pretty fair, i just helped show him where to cut costs lol.
Was still a sweet gig, worked 4:30am-11:30a, usually made ~$100 cash plus my paycheck, so like $200 cash plus my check every weekend which as a teenager living rent and cost of living free was pretty great.
youtheotube2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a benefit of working for a huge corporation. The chain of leadership is usually very well defined and available for employees to see. I learned my leadership chain all the way up to the CEO by name and face through their bios on the company website. They occasionally come though from out of state to tour the facility, and itโs not always announced to everybody.
donscron91 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:14:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's shitty. You were just being honest.
What were you supposed to say? "Tiger and Phil Mickelson just finished this hole so you are good to tee off."
neon_slippers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:55:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks, but in most cases I think you're better off being honest with the owner of the company rather than lying to him.
eggbert194 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:39:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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silentclowd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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dootdootplot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:53:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What an asshole.
goodolarchie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:35 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that guy's an asshole. It's his job to get people in there.
redgreenapple ยท 349 points ยท Posted at 00:57:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Your teacher: Do you know why I called you up here?
Your GF: Do you have something you need to tell me?
Your boss: You know, honesty is the best policy...
Your wife: Is there anything you'd like to say to me?
Where was this LPT 35 years ago?
Jhov12 ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 02:30:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know why I pulled you over?
ShardFish ยท 384 points ยท Posted at 03:10:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Was it because of the kidnapping?
I laugh
cop laughs
trunk laughs
The_Lurking_Archer ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 03:38:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
guy in trunk is scared by the trunk laughing
DrSteveBrule_FYH ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:02:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dead body in the trunk laughing would have been the threepeat.
Phone_Anxiety ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the distance, sirens.
mangokisses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I really needed that laugh.
Vefantur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:06 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It would be difficult to talk while we are both still driving?
notyourmatebuddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Because you think that that blue costume and glock gives you the power to be a road pirate ?"
danieljohnsonjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gabriel Iglesias has this story: https://youtu.be/a77Dw3tNv8o
a-crack ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:46:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Look at this guy he has a girlfriend AND a wife.
FroTimes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
He don't need no LPT
peechieekeen ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:37:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine they all happened to be there at once
redgreenapple ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:38:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
TIHI
Sunsh1neTheWerewolf ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:34:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
With your girlfriend or your wife, honesty is always the best policy. No relationship is good when you hide things from the other person. Besides, they'll find out anyway.
De-Hond ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Do I look fat in this?"
"Do you think my friend is attractive?"
Sunsh1neTheWerewolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I mean.. there's exceptions to every rule.
I guess the moral of the story is, don't be stupid, stupid.
De-Hond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I know, was just making a joke.
Eruptflail ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:09:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same with your teacher. They'll unleash holy hell if you start playing dumb.
Eruptflail ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:08:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This tip does not work against people who care about you like parents and teachers.
If you play dumb with me as your teacher, I am going to drag you. If you just tell me you were being a shit and will try not to be a shit again, I'll nod and we'll go on with the day.
Always be upfront and honest with people who are acting in your best interest, especially when they want you to grow as a person.
UnoriginalUse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:25:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
While I agree with your point, there's a big difference in body language between playing dumb and showing unwillingness to offer up information. I've trained people for interviews, and one of the best tactics when being accused of something is to refuse to answer to broad generalizations, so the interviewer has to get so specific you can deny on a technicality or detail.
Wannabkate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To answer the question.
I love you.
It is.
And I really love you.
1403186 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you actually make your gf interrogate you to have a conversation, it wonโt last long.
Bejaysis ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 00:56:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's an Irish saying that I go by "Say nuthin 'till you hear more."
GuttiesMagee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And then say less
Madkr4ze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:29 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
sae nufin til ye 'ear mor
brettins ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 02:43:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You never really need an excuse for anything.
If you're always late, or unprepared, no excuse is going to mean anything.
If you're always on time and prepared, you don't need an excuse because it's obvious there's a damn good reason.
flixieboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then why is Santa always late?
yyertles ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:00:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, no one is perfect. If you're always on time and prepared, you can still have a slip up, whether it is your fault or not. Making excuses is not the answer though - own the fact that you messed up an move on. If you truly are always on time and prepared, you will almost certainly get a pass for a misstep. People also respect honesty and ownership, but you don't need to give them the complete history of why the situation happened.
Valleygirl1981 ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 02:10:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I had a 930 interview. It was nine. They asked about it, I told them I thought it was 930.
Killed interview. Got job.
Realized the moment they said nine, I fucked up. Told the truth, no extras.
not_from_here123 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:41:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I read that like you had 930 interviews.
voidthursdays ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:36:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People say things wrong all the time, if one of my customer's says "Oh I thought it was at x time" I just assume it was an honest mistake. Maybe I said the wrong time, maybe they wrote it down wrong, but does it really matter?
Valleygirl1981 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:08 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And if they told the truth, why bust their chops. If they lied, who cares, that's on them.
Beerded1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:53:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly it can be confusing for those that do the interviews too. The recruiting team sets things up for me but doesnโt always give me all the details so I tend to be a bit more lenient on such things.
rabid_briefcase ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:00:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on the people that can be a better choice if you screwed up and were significantly late.
Instead of walking in at 9:15 for a 9:00 appointment, wait outside a few minutes, calm yourself, walk through the doors at 9:25, and say you are a few minutes early for your 9:30 interview.
LeonardSmallsJr ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 00:55:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
/Proverbs 17:28, sort of
Dcarozza6 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:46:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โ John 3:16
Limitfinite ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:42:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was Steve Austin
PHOTO500 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:57:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Totally underrated comment.
tacklebox ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Close. Its shut up stupid worthless woman and don't say shit. Tim 2:11
megajoints ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Genesis something something
donscron91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Helen Keller lived by this shit
masaaav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And my father dwelt in a tent. -sombody i don't remember
socrates1975 ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 23:59:51 on February 19, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Life is like chess....shut the fuck up and wait your turn
api10 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:07:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Life is like swimming...open your mouth only for breathing
DrWhiteApe ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:09:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Except, don't breathe with your mouth, use your nose.
wmartin2014 ยท 327 points ยท Posted at 23:55:26 on February 19, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I once showed up a few minutes late to an interview due to sleeping in. I made sure to wear nice clothes hoping it would make up for it. I would have been better off showing up on time in basketball shorts and a tshirt. My friend that set me up with the interview said the managers biggest issue with people was showing up late and if I couldnt be on time for the interview there was no way she would hire me. This was for a crappy PT gig in college so no big deal but it still sucked.
higherlogic ยท 259 points ยท Posted at 01:05:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Something similar happened to me. They originally had the interview schedule as a phone call but failed to update it. I woke up, didnโt shower, shave, or get dressed, and dialed in. No one was there. They called asking where I was and I said I was waiting on the line but no one else was on. They said it should have been updated and I was supposed to come in. They asked how fast I could get over to do an in person interview and I said 30 minutes. I showed up but didnโt shave and the older owner was like โthis is how you show up to an interview, with jeans and not shaven?โ My suit was being dry cleaned. They asked how fast I could get there, not how long it would take. Iโm a programmer so itโs pretty irrelevant anyways but I was like โyeah, I didnโt have time because you didnโt update the meeting and it is what it is.โ Got hires but knew Iโd continue to look for jobs anyways since thatโs not a place Iโd ever work in my life after being called out like that for their mistake and trying to accommodate them.
meursaultvi ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 01:51:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had an webcam interview once where something like this happened. I get ready and then see that there was a rescheduling of the interview. I call the hiring manager and he instantly assumes I "screwed something up" and asked if I wanted to still have the interview. I was like of course and he's says to give him a second to see what I did wrong. He calls back to tell me the supervisor that was going to be on the call did it because he had a dentist appointment. I got no apology for accusing me of trying to get out of an interview or screwing something up. I didn't get the job thank God.
HumanPersonMan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:14:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You dodged a bullet there.
pnutbuttercow ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:56:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They were just training you for the inevitable โI need this moved up to (near impossible deadline) I donโt care if itโs polished or scalableโ and then of course follow up complaining when itโs not totally polished or fully scalable because of the adjusted deadline.
higherlogic ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:08:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Worked out for the best anyways. They were only paying $96k and went on to a job paying $125k that bumped to $200k in less than 1.5 years. Always a silver lining.
pnutbuttercow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Alright I gotta ask what languages/title? I switched from C# to java full stack and it tops out at like 120k (but easier to get experience/foot in the door) from what Iโve seen.
higherlogic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:25:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Senior PHP Developer pulls $125k no problem (I could easily find you a $150k job with just PHP and Laravel experience, remote work too). Iโm full stack so have experience in frontend, backend, PHP, JS, HTML/CSS, Vue, Laravel, Bash, Perl, DBA, SysAdmin and DevOps (used to own a hosting company), etc. (Iโm 36 so Iโve been doing this for 25+ years and 20 years professionally and I have no degree or certifications besides my HS diploma); but my primary language and what I get hired for is either that, API development, consulting, or director positions where Iโm leading multiple departments in multiple companies with multiple teams around the globe.
angry-dev ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dang, I need to figure out what I'm doing wrong. I feel I've been stuck at the same PHP job for the past 6 years.
higherlogic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:02:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That might be your biggest issue. I only stay for maybe 3 years max, but usually 1-1/2 to 2 years. Otherwise you stagnate and donโt improve. Always look out for yourself, the company doesnโt care about you. And hone your resume and interview skills.
a-breakfast-food ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:12:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Shouldn't have rushed to be there in 30 minutes to make up for their mistake.
Any change like that to an interview should've been confirmed that you received it.
higherlogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs whatโs funny, I got the updated invite and I confirmed. They just werenโt in sync with what they did.
elleohehle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:02:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a job at a bank for a few years where the interview process was a few steps. I nailed the phone interview and was contacted by a bank manager to schedule one in person. They asked if I would prefer 11am Thursday or Friday. I told them Friday, because Thursday I would be at the retail job I had at the time. They called me Thursday at 11:05am and left a message asking where I was. I called back, and told them I was at my retail job, because the interview was the following day. They disagreed and said it was written down in their own hand as Thursday at 11. I was only allowed a rescheduled interview because the manager above them knew me and my sister, who was a higher up in the bank. The original manager never admitted they messed up, and I didnโt want to rock the boat so I had to let everyone think I was briefly incompetent. Guess which manager was hard to work with โ for everyone.
De-Hond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To judge a whole company by just one guy's dumb comment seems a bit unfair.
rabid_briefcase ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's what we wear every day. If a candidate showed up in a suit, the an early question would be "Why did you wear a suit to this interview?"
Relatively few careers and jobs still require suits. Maybe if you're looking for a job as a banker, or as some type of executive, but even then the modern standard tends to be "business casual", not a full business suit.
higherlogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A suit without the jacket is what I meant. Iโm a Director so itโs what I wear and what I wore even when we werenโt required. Dress for the job you want I guess?
xoxrobot ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 00:56:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs a shitty interviewer. I was ten minutes late to the interview for my current job. I emailed to let them know what was going on and to apologize for the delay.
This actually helped me. They told me they appreciated my honesty and the fact that I let them know beforehand. Apparently it bode well that I kept them in the loop.
If youโre ever late again to an interview just let them know that youโre going to be late and by how much time. In the real world being late happens. Itโs how you handle it that matters.
zoobrix ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:44:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So many people just deal with the fallout after they mess something up instead of getting ahead of it.
Managers at my current work think I'm so responsible because anytime I know I'm going to be late I quickly call the office and let them know. This stops the "where's zoobrix hunt?". Plus by already calling and apologizing there is no need for a "you know you're late" kind of discussion, they know you know it wasn't good to be late, that's why you called. Of course it helps I'm rarely late but I've always found it bizarre you can take times where you've screwed because you were irresponsible to make yourself actually look more responsible.
JillStinkEye ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:57:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or it's a shitty job. When you basically need butts in seats, you need those butts at the time you scheduled them. If it's not a skilled job then probably the biggest skill they need from you is is reliability.
ChocoTaquito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:20:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Not to mention from OP's situation: How on Earth do you call up to "apologize and ask if we can reschedule" without implicitly admitting that it is your fault?
It sounds like OP said something like "I'm sorry the interview didn't happen, let's see if we can do it some other time" which just sounds shady and weird instead of being frank. He's also operating under the assumption that the other party fucked up or thinks they fucked up which is not going to happen, and they won't like such a wry response to a problem that OP started.
Arti241 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe "I had an interview this morning, but I need to reschedule"?
ChocoTaquito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's just me, but that still sounds unnatural if I'm the company. Even if I work there and I know the phones have been acting up, someone saying "I need to reschedule" sounds 100% like it was on them and not on your own company or your phones.
I'm not saying that the person needs to divulge why a reschedule is needed, but I just can't interpret that statement any other way than the person being the catalyst for the interview not happening.
Arti241 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's also more likely to strike you a weird when you are thinking about it critically and in isolation. Usually I have too much on my plate to worry about why an interview didn't happen. But maybe you would have picked up on it, but I'm trying to be honest with myself in saying I don't think I'd pick up on it. I'd be more likely to ask what happened in case we were missing something. But good on you if you would.
greengiant89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:24:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Were you late because you logged onto a computer, into your email, and typed out an email to let them know you were going to be late?
nucumber ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
that wasn't a shitty interviewer.
the thing is, you handled it right. there was a problem and you wouldn't be able to keep a commitment so you let them know etc. that's exactly what i would hope for in an employee
it seems the other guy just showed up late.
a-breakfast-food ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:14:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A few minutes though? Like within 5 minutes of start time is close enough.
Solendor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:21:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You should be there 5 minutes early imo. Anytime you know you are running late, especially to an interview, let people know. It makes you look better than walking in nonchalant 5 minutes late.
Arti241 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this, especially with cell phones. I worked a job when I had sessions starting exactly on the hour so I called if I even thought I was going to be 5 minutes late. It's generally served me well. The last time I was actually late to work (phone with alarm died in the middle of the night) my boss was worried sick and so glad I was okay. I read completely ashamed of myself, but being responsible changes the conversation entirely.
nucumber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
i see. you don't think it's a big deal to be late for a job interview. you think five minutes late is fine.
look, they're hiring you, not the other way around
as a hiring manager, the interview is the only chance i'll have to get a sense of you, your demeanor, your character. i will assume you are being the best you can be, and if that's your attitude toward the job interview.....
nope. the door is right behind you. go
a-breakfast-food ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:53:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Uh no. An interview is a two way street. I'm figuring out if I actually want the job too.
And at any company I've worked at it's normal for meetings to start up to 10 minutes late. People get caught up in stuff or have previous meetings go long.
nucumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
fair enough, but if you think it's fine for you to show up late for the interview i'm not going to give you the choice.
FastWalkingShortGuy ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 01:08:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That was a dick move to your friend.
When someone recommends you to their boss, it reflects poorly on them when you flake. Their boss will doubt their judgement and it can negatively impact their career.
Try to avoid doing that going forward.
wmartin2014 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:17:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I felt very bad. Good advice.
FastWalkingShortGuy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:20:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, as long as you learned from it, that's all that matters.
I_AM_NOT_A_PHISH ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:20:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely why I would never refer anyone for a job with a current employer.
Mark1700 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:54:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This. Don't mix friends with business.
MovingWayOverseas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:36:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Finally, a voice of reason. I canโt believe the other more upvoted comments are putting this on the interviewer.
mikeyHustle ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 00:30:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The worse the gig, the more likely you'll be rejected from it. More willing and able applicants, so they can use whatever arbitrary measure they like.
throwawaychinsurg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sarah-rah-rah ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:18:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're nitpicking and missing out on the larger point.
If you're interviewing for a shitty low paying job, they're looking for any excuse to get rid of you. If you're a minute late, you're out.
If you're interviewing for a nice job, they will give you a lot of leeway so they can capitalize on your expertise.
throwawaychinsurg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:30:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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Lotuscatfood09 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:36:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So someone who made the effort to be at least 15 minutes early or on time should be given the same consideration as someone who's careless and late? What's the point of even scheduling an interview? Hey, I know, how about everyone just shows up whenever they feel like. We all have lives and things to do right? Can't let some pesky job get in the way of that. I'm sure a logical, successful employer would understand.
mikeyHustle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In a lot of fields, it doesn't matter when you start and stop, as long as you get your core hours and projects done. You're not gonna reject a skilled chemical engineer because their bus was 5 minutes late.
ur_opinion_is_wrong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:56:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good companies usually schedule way more time than needed because they know you or the person youre interviewing could run late, maybe has issues getting in the building, maybe the interview goes long, and of course usually you've got paperwork and other stuff to fill out post interview. If I have 6 half hour interviews in a day, thats basically my whole day. The most I did was 8 and I ended up leaving late that day.
grickygrimez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's also going to be incidental things that you can't account for. One time lost a job opportunity after the other applicant said 'thank you' more over the two interviews.
ArthurBea ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I showed up to an interview late. I was wet from the shower with a towel around my neck. I put on whatever was easy, shorts and a t shirt. I apologized when I got there. I donโt remember any of the questions.
I got the job. One of the interviewers saw me and for some reason thought it I was a very interesting person to have shown up late in media bath.
It was in college, though. Donโt try this in the real world, kids.
oneshibbyguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When these sort of things happen, the best thing to do is call ahead and say you will be X minutes late. Don't have to offer up info as to why, but it shows initiative.
Mc_Whiskey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Some bosses are like that. My boss's rules are show up on time and don't cause drama and you will probably work for him for a long time.
WreakingHavoc640 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever Iโm interviewing people it matters more to me that they give a heads-up if theyโll be late, that theyโre courteous and apologize for being late (simply because it shows that they validate other peopleโs feelings, and acknowledge their mistakes and/or that the interviewerโs time is valuable to them), and what matters most is how they conduct themselves after that. Everyone and I mean everyone screws up at some point. If youโre 10 minutes late for an interview and it makes you break down crying, Iโll wonder if youโll handle other stressful situations in the same manner. If you walk in and say thank you for allowing me to interview late, and then go about business as usual, Iโll take that as a good sign youโre cool under pressure - unless something happens during the interview that tells me otherwise.
Nobody likes someone who is chronically late, but not giving someone a chance to redeem themselves is just short-sighted.
mattschinesefood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
On the other side of the coin, I'm that manager. I had a phone interview with a candidate the other day. I called at 10.30am on the dot, no answer. I left a voicemail explaining who I was and why I was calling. I got a call back 14 minutes later. I did not a answer. The candidate left a voicemail saying he was driving through a bad area.
Sorry pal. We had a call scheduled. If you can't dedicate time to sitting by your phone waiting for it to ring, then I can't trust you to be on time to work.
Denied.
saucenutz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:28:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs really not what OP was saying but okay
3gads ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 02:11:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs one of the tenants of the 1980 book โYou Can Negotiate Anything,โ one of the earliest biz books from the Regan era. It focuses on โwin/winโ negotiation strategies. I believe itโs up there with Dale Carnegieโs โHow to Win Friends and Influence Peopleโ and Machiavelliโs โThe Prince.โ All three, though dated and problematic in their own ways, have been very useful to me in negotiating the world.
Alcohorse ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:00:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tenets
Fat_Brando ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:22:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tennis
yeediggity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Regan
warpigs_karaoke ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:42:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Three times in my life my father has gifted me copies of The Art of War for this very purpose.
NightmareIncarnate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What happened to the first two copies?
BrozoTheClown26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:44 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's just one copy they keep regifting to each other
Glubglub57 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:23:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Which one would you recommend someone to read first?
plasticambulance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:19:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How to win friends.
d360jr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:19:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dale Carnegie first, but youโll want to read critically; like itโs a literature class.
Thereโs a lot to learn, but I wouldnโt agree with 100% of it. And itโs worth reading several times.
Glubglub57 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
BretHitmanClarke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Following cause I'd like to know too
solorna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is currently included with Prime membership for anyone who has Prime and wants to read it free.
camelzigzag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine told me once, when negotiating, the person that speaks first loses.
Jhuliette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reagan
Scharei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:54 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Rhaegar
Kamilia666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:06 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
First of his name, ruler of the seven kingdoms and protector of the realm, king of the rhoinar, the andals and the first men.
Splyce123 ยท 154 points ยท Posted at 23:56:38 on February 19, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can you tell me the time? Yes, yes I can.
Brillegeit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:51:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ยซWhat's the time?ยป
ยซTime is the indefinite continued progress of existence and events that occur in an apparently irreversible succession from the past, through the present, into the future, but that's not important right now.ยป
/Movie Airplane, sort of.
TheAlligatorGar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:13:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I only tell my friends what time it is. And Iโm all friended up.
adp18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs two yesses too many
tubahero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A simple yes will do.
ASeaAnenome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, youโre one of those people
nighthawk475 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A good quote in the context of the show, but super dickish in real life.
Splyce123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:08 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not when part of your job involves standing in court as an expert witness.
collapsing_sanity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โWould you tell me the time ?โ
โYes, I wouldโ
Matt7738 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:42:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
<glances at clock> <shrugs>
[deleted] ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 00:37:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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Oxideist ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:21:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You and me both. It finally kicked in sometime in the Navy. Military has a way of teaching you this lesson fairly quickly.
YouJustReadBullShit ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:57:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You volunteered once didn't you?
Oxideist ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:32:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never again.
Beenhamine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah tbh my wiring makes me very honest and blunt, and although this rarely benefits me, I dont like unspoken things floating around and I don't like lying or "withholding information".
Gives me bad anxiety.
venicerocco ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:20:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So true. I find that you can say a hundred awesome gems in a row but the moment you give em one idiotic clanger itโs game over. People are so ruthless socially.
ksyoung17 ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 01:16:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: learn from your mistakes. You overslept and got a second chance. That doesn't happen everytime.
soulsista12 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:03:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This. People are usually willing to give you a 2nd chance. A 3rd though? Nah. Also, only use excuses when you really have something going on. Otherwise its the boy who cried wolf, and no one will ever believe you when thereโs really a problem
TheGreatEgemen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:06:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, this answer is only one that is consistent and true every time.
pongtimeout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
too harsh, wouldn't like to work with people like you
BobbySanchoas ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 00:56:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is manipulation 101, silence can offer millions of answers but mostly the ones the other party is looking for. Being vague while still engaging is like giving a blank canvas to whoever you are conversing with.
Kamilia666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:18 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Let the other person paint your lie for you. Best tactic.
avocadontfckntalk2me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:34 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My friend used to keep her tinder bio blank for this reason. She said that men would just fill in the blank with whatever they wanted her to be
foodank012018 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 02:01:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like these guys said
TaranulaToxxic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:48:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mad I had to scroll so far to find this
HurtPride ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:13:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Instantly knew what video it was going to be
DynamicOnion_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
give this guy gold
Twizzify ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 02:39:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Letterkenny taught me many life lessons, but hereโs the one that you would also like:
The less you say now, the less you have to apologize for later.
Jazzlike_Efficiency ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And that's what I's appreciates about ya, twizzify
louderharderfaster ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 01:13:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We have one motto at my company and it is incredibly effective, "Do not blame, complain or explain" (explain as in making excuses).
I admit it is very difficult some days to apply it but the effort itself really pays off. When someone begins to whine about a customer or vendor or traffic we can gently interrupt, remind the person what the motto means.
OP, I've been in your shoes a few times and have also owned up succinctly, without excuses and it has always worked out better than when I launched into my regret/apology/story.
Good luck with the next round!
_TheConsumer_ ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 01:46:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The greatest lesson I learned was to immediately fess up when youโre wrong. You completely change the dynamic of the conversation.
People who want to roast you for being wrong will be taken aback and will probably find your honesty refreshing.
Example: Ted, you know youโve been late every day this week and it has been noticed. This doesnโt reflect well on you or the company.
Ted: Itโs my fault. Iโve overslept a few days this week because I was playing RD2 when I should have been sleeping. Iโm sorry, it wonโt happen again.
You give them nothing to roast. You were mature enough to take your lumps and move on.
Atiggerx33 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 03:24:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did this with a professor. We were supposed to have our papers completed and ready to hand in, I finished it but just forgot to print it out and bring it in (because I'm a dolt and used to e-submitting shit). He asked me what my excuse was, I looked him in the eye and just said "I don't have one, I just forgot, it won't happen again." He was supposed to take off 5 points, but instead he just said "thank you for your honesty and for not coming up with a thousand reasons why you had a good reason. If you get it printed out from the campus library and hand it in in the next 30 mins I'll accept it with no points off." I thanked him profusely and did just that.
Polybutadiene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
had a similar thing happened except i failed the final for a class my senior year but had a job lined up. talked to the professor and basically just told him my situation without any details as โi failed the exam but i have this job lined up, can you help me out?โ
in reality i skipped/slept thru almost all his classes and kinda bsโd the year buut he said โi know you were a good student and were always on time so ill cut you some slackโ. i sure as shit wasnโt going to correct him so i thanked him profusely for his deal and went on my merry way.
DimiStark ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:23:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Had the same revalation couple of days ago.
Overslept by about half an hour for work. Had a shift with a person who is known for their short temper, and I had the keys for the site; thus they were stuck outside, waiting for me.
On the way there was making up excuses as to why I was tardy; instead I just walked up, apologised and told them the honest truth. Had a great shift with that person, which in hindsight would not have been the case if id started to pull excuses out.
lucasnarsta ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:27:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever had a job? Obviously you apologize and that still wonโt stop you from getting bitched at
NCEMTP ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:55:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's the difference between shitty management and good management.
And their response is also likely dependant on whether you're generally a shitty employee or a good employee.
nomoredrivinginLA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:51:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We hired someone who's the opposite of me/this. She constantly tries to cover up her mistakes even though I can see basically everything that she does. Even her excuses are stupid. I don't care if she's late, but just as an example:
"Why were you late?"
"Oh, uh, I...thought I was supposed to come in later for some reason."
Bullshit. There's no reason why (in this hypothetical) she should have ever thought that. I'm going to quit soon and part of it because she's insanely unqualified and I don't get paid enough to babysit and clean her messes up and my boss refuses to fire her even though he knows she lied on her resume and interview. She cried while I was on vacation because she was overwhelmed without me there to carry the load. It wasn't even busy.
TeaDrinkingBanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And then if you're late again?
ajk5268 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Solid advice. The only caveat is that there are assholes who when you fess up they get upset that you're not letting that hang over your head and will try to run down a list to find something else they can roast you on.
voidthursdays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I find whenever I do this people take me less seriously and I get in more trouble than the guy who always has an excuse and I'm not sure why.
general_sai_sai ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:18:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who sees this as a toxic workplace? Granted, I work for a pretty young (as in employees general age) tech company and this sounds awful.
I wouldn't feel comfortable talking about much with my colleagues and it seems there would be a lot of pent up frustration/feelings.
How about help people to address these things in a healthy manner? And create a workplace where people feel safe to share (to an extent obviously, but that goes back to the office culture). Lord, I wouldn't want to work at your company, sounds like a crock of shit.
Edit: That said, I like the blame part. Own up to your shit. Hold yourself to the same level of accountability as you would with your peers.
catslovebeards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what the "complaining" is about. Routine job duties, typical customer interactions, annoying (but necessary) procedures, etc. would be complaining. A comment here and there on a bad day, no big deal. All the time? Get over it.
However, we just had a team meeting where our boss called us out on our "complaining." Saying that if there was a problem we didnt have to go around telling everyone about it. And yes, that DOES contribute to the toxic work environment, especially with this sitation where we are NOT complaining, we are going to other team mates who are actively involved in the situation and we are working together to find a solution or piece together the parts to find out why whatever is happening is happening. And because we are all involved in each step in separate ways, there have been many times one of us "complaining" to the other has helped solve a problem because it turned out one of us were actually had information on the situation that somehow had not been communicated.
In fact just today a problem WOULD have been solved had a teammate come to vent/complain to me. Turns out the 'missing link' in their info was a conversation I had involving a couple people she talked to, but they NEVER mentioned two very critical steps that I had been involved in. It only came to her attention when I mentioned it was odd that the customer had called earlier, asked for her, yet had not gotten back to me reguarding a previous conversation. Turns out she'd spent a huge chunk of her day going around in circles trying to figure it out.
TheButcherOfYore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to think that it's more about being constructive. Instead of complaining about a customer talk about what's going on and see if anyone has pointers on how to improve the situation.
general_sai_sai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Agree 100%. The traffic example is what got me, not really a constructive approach to that lol. Sure, I'd hate the person who complained about traffic all the time but sometimes you just gotta let it out (in small, appropriate pieces). Maybe I'm just closer with the people I sit around than the average person, who knows!
louderharderfaster ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You are totally misreading the entire reason and application. There are actually much better ways to deal with frustration, issues, challenges, etc than blaming, complaining and making excuses. No one is not allowed to air their grievance or discuss their problem or ask for help. Fuck, you can even whine about your commute and run on about the printer settings and gripe about HR - and get the predictable, pedestrian results.
That this is a turn off for you is maybe one of those "win-win" scenarios.
general_sai_sai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ha I get where you're coming from with your last comment but maybe articulate a little better. Re-read your first comment and tell me if your second explanation could honestly be inferred from what you said.
Also, you literally used traffic as an example and then tried saying that was not "not" allowed lol.
raver6 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:20:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Similar thing happened with me. I was late but they just finished an interview with someone else. When it was my turn they said "apologies for the wait" I was all like "Nah, don't worry about it." Lol.
42nd_towel ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:20:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was let go from my last job, not for anything of my fault, just small company not doing well and had to let some people go. Anyway, when applying for jobs, I didnโt lie about anything, put correct dates on my application and resume, but I was really surprised when it never came up in the interview where I got hired (much better job too, and first place I applied). I was definitely missing a couple months of history. I suppose even if I was fired for cause, Iโd still have gotten my current job. They didnโt ask about my leaving, I didnโt say anything about the gap. Just talked about work I had done in the past and what I was looking for. I guess that was good enough.
agoia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's always bullshit when they ask about gaps. All I've ever said when asked about mine was "that time was spent doing other things that didn't contribute relevant experience for this role"
Denzalo_ ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:25:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Be a deep well of information, not a fountain.
death_of_gnats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No spurting!
aaoch1 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:10:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less, smile more
bitterberries ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:56:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let them know what you're against or what you're for
Mage_Malteras ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:59:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You canโt be serious
gotera ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:25:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fools who run their mouths off wind up dead.
Mage_Malteras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm disappointed in you. You skipped two lines.
gotera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like I said...
mchlzlck ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:32:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What?
OnlyAlec ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:08:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
:))
bibasik7 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:25:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
:)))
Yeyeryeyat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just looks like he has a double chin though
mchlzlck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let them know what you're against or what you're for.
adeiner ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:15:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always good advice! Thereโs a great scene from the West Wing when one of the characters tells the press secretary she needs to get out of the habit of answering more than what was asked and I think about that a lot.
cartesian_dreams ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 01:27:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: Don't oversleep
EckEck704 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:09:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't sleep
api10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt
pleasefeedthedino ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:12:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: Don't post that you overslept your interview on reddit, where the person hiring you might see it
Conker37 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:26:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let employers/co-workers know your Reddit username?
Petah_Futterman44 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:02:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wow thanks Iโm cured.
cartesian_dreams ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Happy to help ;P
plesthier ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 23:57:15 on February 19, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or if you have to give an excuse (maybe for missing work), make it deeply embarrassing and personal. Like violent diarrhea.
Error_404_Account ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 00:26:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always have explosive diarrhea. Quite unfortunate, really. I can't possibly work today.
andyv001 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:56:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"But you're our head of laxative testing!"
Error_404_Account ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:35:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, shit.
andyv001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Literally.
jakethedumbmistake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Smh my head. Youโll see.
Wannabkate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well they aren't working.
JoeDiesAtTheEnd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah, I won't know if its working if the intended results match the control."
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:00:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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lucasnarsta ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:30:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
Markstone510 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:33:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
An excuse for missing work may be very different than missing an interview.
You've already built a rapport with your employer if you are a worker (hopefully at least) , as an unknown there are many areas of excuses you may want to avoid.
plesthier ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:06:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If itโs embarrassing enough but not a potentially chronic problem, then it should still work. A young woman admitting she unexpectedly got her period and didnโt have any pads/tampons on her could even be enough.
It just has to be embarrassing enough to sound like a shared secret theyโre reluctantly being told.
Markstone510 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:15:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Maybe but I know plenty of older bosses who would respond to that with a "why would she share that with me when she doesn't even know me" and lose some trust in the process. Not right but true.
"I had some personal issues going on that I could not predict and I apologise for missing our meeting time, this is out of character for me and I hope you can look past this, I am and will be a reliable individual who values not only my time but that of others". That's what I may say.
username_404_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I agree that'd be way too personal for someone you don't know well at a new company
FingerRoot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:26:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs laying on a thick gob of ass kissing right there. Imagine this sob story for a period โ just say โI had something really embarrassing happen, Iโm sorry I missed the meeting.โ
plesthier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs a personal to TMI range that will fit most bosses. It just needs to be personal enough that no one thinks youโre lying.
TurdWaterMagee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:08:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Call in sick. If they say you donโt sound sick tell them Iโm fuckin my sister, that sick enough? They wonโt let let you come in if you tell them that.
i_deserve_less ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:30:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just say "I'm not coming in". That is all. It's none of their business and you don't have to remember any lies
hokie_high ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:01:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What terrible advice... Just say youโre not feeling well or youโre using PTO or whatever that is short and sweet, thatโs enough. Nobody will ever ask questions. Donโt just tell your work that you arenโt going to do your job today, lmao that is an awful way to interact with people. At least pretend like youโve got some social intelligence.
LIGHTNINGBOLT23 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:44:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: If you want to get fired, just say "I'm not coming in". That is all. It's none of their business and you don't have to remember any lies
plesthier ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: Donโt even bother calling in for at least 3 days and youโll be a โno call, no showโ meaning youโve passively quit.
plesthier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs the original point. Iโm just offering something else that might work.
vandilx ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:58:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Corollary: Do not "friend" / "follow" any coworker on social media unless you have a long-term friendship that existed before you became coworkers.
Anything you post online, no matter how innocuous, can be twisted and used against you at work.
No work "friends" on social media ever.
And keep your shit locked down from non-friends.
elleohehle ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:10:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Further - Donโt become friends with your coworkers in real life, because theyโre not really friends with you.
CarInTheLake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:54:05 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is very sad
elleohehle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:58 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
it is, but itโs spoken from experience. obviously not every coworker turned โfriendโ is really evil personified, but the handful iโve encountered were enough to stop me from doing that again.
CaptainsLincolnLog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:59 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or your boss. Your boss is not your friend. If anything, theyโre your enemy a lot of the time.
Zahn1138 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I second this.
Shenaniganz08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. This is the real life pro tip.
RealnoMIs ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:17:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a /r/shittylifeprotips to me on a macro scale.
If everyone starts scheming to try and get ahead rather than being open and honest about stuff then our society would collapse.
Also, with this outcome from sleeping through an appointment im rather certain you wont make any critical adjustments to avoid it happening again, so sooner or later you will sleep through another appointment.
elleohehle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:16:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think the problem is that there are already so many people scheming and plotting to further their own personal agendas - with work or family or social life - that the people who are honest are being destroyed. The people scheming to get ahead donโt care, and will continue to succeed in this way, even if it is not right.
This advice is for the people at the table who keep showing everyone their cards and wondering why theyโre losing.
RealnoMIs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:45:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So your advice is that we all just become villains since its easier?
elleohehle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Of course not. But if you consider it villainous to keep some things to yourself then maybe youโve got some self reflecting to do.
RealnoMIs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:38:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Keeping things to yourself can be villainous.
Such as keeping the recipie for life-saving medicine to yourself to make a huge profit rather than share it with the general public to make it readily available for everyone who needs it.
With that said, of course its not always villainous to keep things to yourself. What im arguing against is the mentality of "This advice is for the people at the table who keep showing everyone their cards and wondering why theyโre losing".
Sometimes the rules say you should show your cards, sometimes showing your cards is the right thing to do. At these times a person should not keep their cards hidden because there might be profit in it for them.
elleohehle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
your comment purposely misconstrues mine to prove your own point. THAT is villainous.
and itโs spoken like someone whoโs never been in the position iโm referring to. youโve clearly never opened your mouth when you should have shut the hell up and ruined your whole life. i have. lots of times. and from this comment section itโs safe to say many others have, too. showing the wrong people your cards is a mistake, but honest people donโt know they were the wrong people until theyโve already lost the game. i personally am the open and honest person who thinks life should be fair and everyone should get equal opportunities and chances, but there are too many people who cheat and lie and steal so iโve learned to fight against it. you clearly never have. i hope your life continues to be all peaches and roses, and your best friends never share your secrets to get ahead. have a good day.
RealnoMIs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:23:16 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My advice to you: If you for some reason keep ending up in situations where you need to keep your mouth shut or your life would be ruined - change something about your life.
elleohehle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:14 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
i did dude. i learned to shut the hell up. you should, too.
RealnoMIs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:33 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Shutting up sounds like a response to the situation. Not a prevention of ending up in it.
1403186 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs fine. Op isnโt saying lie, just shut up. Your boss doesnโt need to know about your life. If you tell your gf everything the relationship is not gonna last long. Itโs more about knowing when to talk and when not to. You should speak when your gf asks a question. Not so your boss.
metalbark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I agree; this thread is filled with terrible advice. I feel so bad for anyone who takes this to heart. But it is also destroying our community on a macro scale, so there has to be some speaking out. Just wow.
_TheConsumer_ ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:39:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โDonโt volunteer informationโ
Perfect advice. Now extend that same lesson to social media. Stop using social media. All youโre doing is creating a dossier of yourself for the company and the public.
People never use that dossier to say โGee golly - look at how amazing this guy is.โ No. They use it to dredge up your slightest imperfection and use it as a means to destroy you.
jooshpak ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:05:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for volunteering this information
Xelanders ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:06:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Better hope no one finds your Reddit account then.
_TheConsumer_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:29:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing personally identifiable on my account. I make sure of it. I also donโt have Facebook/Twitter/snap/etc.
Added tip: I actively scrub my name and data from google indexing. I wonโt lie, it was a tremendous pain in the ass to manually contact sites like MyLife and about a dozen others to ask them to remove my information. Once they did, I used a Google provided webtool to remove old indexing/caches of the stale pages.
Bonus tip: set a google alert for yourself so you can be notified if any new information about you is indexed by google. That way, you arenโt faced with doing a dozen sites.
princesspeach722 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:43:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tips on how to do this? Or is it really that straightforward?
_TheConsumer_ ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:24:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can give you the basics:
Step 1: Google your name. Youโll probably find multiple sites that have your name, address, phone, email, etc. Theyโll also likely have a list of possible relatives.
Step 2: A โdataโ site like MyLife or Radaris has an opt out page. You can follow its instructions on how to opt out. These are the easier opt outs. If youโre unsure where to find the opt outs, google โopt outโ and the siteโs name.
Step 3: Sometimes a site doesnโt have an opt out page. If thatโs the case, either use itโs โcontact usโ form or itโs email address to get the ball rolling. If you send the site a message/email you should ask that it remove your personal information because you are โdealing with privacy and safety concerns.โ It is important for you to include the URL where your information is in the message to the company.
Step 4: Repeat the above processes for all sites that have your information.
Step 5: After the company removes the page/info, you have one final problem: Google still keeps the information in its search results. Google actually offers a tool for you use to remove the data from stale search results. The tool is โGoogle Search Consoleโ. Make sure you use the option to โremove information from sites you donโt own.โ On that page, youโll be prompted to enter the URL in question. Google will analyze the page. If the page wasnโt taken down (just modified) Google will prompt you and say โPage is still live. Has content on it changed?โ Indicate Yes - and then tell Google what terms are no longer on the page. Iโve found it very helpful to make the terms your First or Last Name.
Step 6: Submit the request to Google. Youโll see a page that indicates your request was submitted and is โpending review.โ
It usually takes google 24-48 hours to respond to these requests. But they absolutely work.
Step 7: After you do the above for all pages in question, set a Google Alert for your name and any other information you had to remove from the web. Google will email you with any new search results that pop up with that info - which means you can start the removal process quickly and only have to do one at a time.
Bonus Tip: I found it extremely helpful to do the above for parents and siblings. Donโt forget - these data sites are creating indexes of โpossible relativesโ and your information will likely pop up on their search results.
Added Bonus Tip: Google your Phone Number to zap any sites that store it for โreverse look upโ purposes. Then follow the above instructions.
I know it seems like a big job (it is). But spread it out over the course of a few days. It is absolutely worth the effort. There is no good reason why your name, phone number, email, political party, religion, Car VIN, etc should be one Google search away.
princesspeach722 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:03:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
THANK YOU! Great info, Im going to work on this
lucky_719 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Saving this for later
wouldyoubesurprised ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:45 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
terdferguson ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:55:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a universal truth. The less you say and gossip the more people divulge information to you. The less you say the more you can observe peoples behaviors, motivations and gauge weather they are trustworthy or not. Important to be able to get along with most people, which isn't always easy.
daikonking ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:13:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: don't take career advice from someone without a career.
CarInTheLake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:49 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Coaches don't play !
DankestDaddy69 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:17:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Life pro tip: don't oversleep when you have a job interview....
kograkthestrong ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:12:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Goes for cops. Not anti cop at all, try my.best to follow the law and be an upstanding citizen but they are not there help you if you get pulled over. Besides too many pieces of shit wearing a badge. There are good ones out there but I ain't risking it and neither should you.
FetaMight ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:25:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a terrible extrapolation. What worked ONCE in this particular situation should not be taken as applicable to every situation.
SquadFamGotHacked ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:16:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Withholding information is something I see as a red flag.
Shenaniganz08 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:52:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I supervise a private clinic. If one of my nurses, MA's etc is late I want to know why. Trying to be sneaky about it is not going to fly.
SquadFamGotHacked ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am about to graduate in management. Telling me the absolute truth is always better than some low excuse
fmwyso ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:37:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is awful advice to live by and will leave you thinking you have to trick your way through life. I'm happy to say I give all information I can when I can and it has found me more success than I ever hoped for. People tend to enjoy my candid honesty about my actions and respect/trust me because of it. Even more importantly, I don't feel like I ever need to select out information just so it provides advantages for me. It's a great way to live life and I'm happy to be excluded for options because of it.
Nimbleturtles ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:05:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had this exact situation happen when I was hiring for my company last month. Guy missed the interview and asked to reschedule with no explanation.
I just rejected him. If he had a good reason I'd have made an exception but not for no reason. Another person messaged me and said they were running late because they were having trouble getting their toddler napping about 2 min after the interview was supposed to start and I said no problem and we pushed it to when they were supposed too.
One person communicated the issue and the other left me to assume he had no valid reason. I'm give my employees a lot of freedom to work. Why would I ever trust someone who won't communicate or admit fault.
Jappie_nl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:26:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to read this here as well. Just had a long interview last week for the last step be be hired in a secure environment and I decided to be open and fair during that interview. This thread made me unsecure if I made the right decision then.
lucky_719 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:09:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more about knowing your audience. Hard to do in interviews and either way it will always be a gamble. If the person values their own time, they don't want excuses. If the person values information, they want a good reason.
PM_ME_UR_SPACECRAFT ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:55:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. :) Reading this thread was getting me worried because I do the same thing
fenderguitar83 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:39:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Loose Lips Sink Ships
goodolarchie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:15 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Loose tweets sink fleets
ECU_BSN ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:20:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm the regional administrator for several Hospices.
This is a huge LPT. Less is more kids!
Quartz_Starbursts ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:14:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt say nuthinโ wonโt be nuthin.โ
Seriously. So much this. Even when you have a scheduled meeting like this, theyโre still not thinking of you, at all, and there is so much power in that.
bloodflart ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:54:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A fool speaks and a wise man listens
QueenOfBoggle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:22:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
GOD I need this too tattooed on the insides of my eyelids.
I am too honest for my own good. Iโm not even saying it in a braggart way. Itโs just fucking stupid at this point, but I just canโt seem to bullshit people and always have this nagging urge to tell the truth about shit that wasnโt even asked.
RagingtonSteel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My old man who was a lawyer for 50 years always says: "Life is a deposition. Yes, no, and I don't recall"
Lucavious ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:08:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like terrible advice for someone who wants to grow. There is no shortage of people in business who donโt want to say anything. Thatโs the standard. The way you stand out as a high performer is going above and beyond; that means volunteering things other people didnโt see or giving context where other people donโt.
Yโall reading this need to remember this isnโt a CEO telling you to do this. It was someone who slept through their interview. Thatโs who youโre taking career advice from.
dobby1999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:44 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most CEOs are sociopaths and not people you'd want to emulate.
Lucavious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:16 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Forest for the trees dude.
JoeyZasaa ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:01:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol this is the dumbest post ever. Why is it on the front page?
JakiStow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Because people are dumb cowards.
krongdong69 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:10:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never let no one know how much dough you hold
Never let them know your next move
Never trust nobody
Never get high on your own supply
Never sell no crack where you rest at
That god damn credit forget it
Keep your family and business completely separated
Never keep no weight on you
If you aint getting bagged stay the fuck from police
If you aint got the clientele say hell no
shirtlooklikedishrag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I find #7 so underrated.
ClockFightingPigeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:48:54 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Whatโs this from?
krongdong69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:06 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ten Crack Commandments by Biggie Smalls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikq5ZmsBd6s
ClockFightingPigeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:09 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I figured it was The Wire or something lol
Karaad ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:16:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lawyer: Do you have the time? Client: Yes, itโs 3:30. Lawyer: Youโre talking to much.
The truth behind it is just enough information to factually answer, respond or inquire.
IcyRik14 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:33:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did anyone see the real learning here:
For an important interview set multiple alarms.
Get you shit together and you wonโt be having to interview in a few years.
Or follow this douchebags life tips and spend the rest of your life begging for jobs and payrises.
WhitePrivilege101 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:02:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs ridiculous that people saw tip/ advice and thought.. great idea! You miss a call interview with me and itโs an automatic rejection. Sure crappy jobs may give you a shot but quality jobs will not.
foxbase ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Have a job offer negotiation Friday. Will try my best.
JunctionDweller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck! Congrats!
foxbase ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
rebelolemiss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:41:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My wife has a saying I love:
โGod gave you two ears and one mouth.โ
ThisNutIsMyNut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:45:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You can always get your shit together and make the call as arranged too.
If you arenโt 15 mins early, MFโr, your ass is late.
soupvsjonez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:12:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, especially when it comes to cops.
Back when I was working security in the Navy, we had a group getting kicked out for drug use. It was 4 guys, and they were all doing it together. One of them never said anything. The other three copped to it.
There was an issue with the chain of custody on the evidence, and it could no longer be used in court. The three that admitted to it were kicked out of the Navy with OTH discharges. The one who kept his mouth shut stayed in.
jstiller30 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:24:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of those golden rules that everyone should learn as a kid. I learned it from growing up as the internet was taking off and playing games rampant with scammers. my parents and grandparents never really formed the habit and almost fell victim to a phone scam for that exact reason.
If you think you recognize a friend online, don't simply ask "ARE YOU JASON?" they can simply reply "yes" and you have gained zero info into that persons identity, and instead given a stranger info to use against you
wawapitsit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad always said โthe person who talks first losesโ. Especially true when bartering over the price of something 2nd hand.
DarnoldMcRonald ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt volunteer information was one of my dadโs all-time favorite things he told me and my brother. He was involved in a lot of business dealings and has countless examples of people screwing themselves by offering up seemingly innocent information.
One example: my dad and mom dinner with the woman who inherited ownership of the company and the subject of cars came up. My mom, trying to add to the conversation with something funny/light said something along the lines of โyou should see some of [Darnoldโs dadโs] classic cars he collects. Heโs almost got too many, weโre running out of room!โ Itโs worth noting that my dad had 3 older cars at the time but heโd collected them over 20 years and the most expensive one wasnโt much more valuable than a mid-price car today.
The owner did not laugh. Her only response was โoh, well maybe weโre just paying him too much...โ followed by some uncomfortable questions about salary under the guise of friendliness my dad had to dance his through.
She couldnโt have foreseen that such innocuous information would lead that woman to such a conclusion, but my dad was still upset because it was a perfect demonstration of his number one rule heโd told us time and time again: donโt volunteer information. Once itโs out there you canโt take it back, and you have no idea what others can/will do with that info.
I always used to think he was over-precautious but Iโve learned now that keeping your mouth shut unless you need it is an extremely underrated skill.
CandidateForDeletiin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter accusations.
SilentVoodooDrew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I made this mistake in the past. Definitely learned from it. Looking back, it was a far commute and Iโm glad it didnโt work out.
99Something ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to me on monday. I was planning on leaving my job (within 1-2 months and was gonna give my notice soon). But they called me up and I admitted to some of the stuff and corrected their inacuracies.
They had planned to fire me before event talking apparently (it was fourth on their list I tried to look at that list and the boss got super defensive) so really I didn't have to say anything. But they where super aggressive towards me and it actually felt really good to be out of that negative enviroment of a work place.
TroPicZ_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs not lying if you donโt say anything
readvida ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:56:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lawyer here. I cannot stress enough how vital this piece of advice is. I negotiate contracts and my strategy is to stay as tight-lipped as is reasonable. I find that this leaves the other party to keep talking and give me a lot to work with. Listen first. Then speak.
nnnm_33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:58:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase your referring to is โambiguity is powerโ
I live by this
neptune3000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:42:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm new in a management position at work and THIS is a lesson I have been learning the hard way.
ardnopathologist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:02:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
always listen to reddit's advice. be deceptive with potential employers asap, if they test you to see if you're a liar and pretend that something which was your fault was actually their fault, you want to fail that test immediately. reprobates
MooseMooseEh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the workplace, never tell any coworker anything that you wouldn't CC everyone in the office, including your boss.
DopestDope42069 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa always told me "loose lips sink ships". Don't say s*** unless you have to
crescen_d0e ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:34:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying that I shouldn't word vomit so hard that my victim now has intimate knowledge of all of my traumas?
That explains a lot tbh
guineaworm88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:38:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never write a letter, never throw one away.
DrAlkibiades ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs funny because you are basically promoting Cheney and Rumsfeldโs ideal of never explain, never apologize. And reddit is like yeah! Protip: donโt sleep through a fucking interview.
Shenaniganz08 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:47:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
This is absolutely terrible advice.
I'm a doctor that works in a private clinic. If my staff is running late, hey no big deal just let me know what happenned. If the same excuses keep coming up then I know it is becoming an issue that needs to be addressed.
If someone tries to be sneaky, you damn well better believe that shit is not going to fly
OP the real LPT is don't be fucking late for interviews. You have no idea how bad that makes you look.
k20stitch_tv ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:39:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We have a saying... the longer your story, the bigger the lie. But for real if youโre looking for a job stop being lazy and sleeping through your interview
ceskopomalu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:40:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโd add one more thing people often forget.
โTake YES for an answer!โ
When youโve asked for something and someone agrees, stop talking! You won. The only thing that can happen now is you talk yourself out of what was agreed.
LucklessLegend ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:46:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes when replying to an emotional email, it helps to type out what you want to say, keep it as a draft for about 12 hours, return to it and delete 90% of the email. The final product is simple as OP suggests, but you get the cathartic release still
sexylegs0123456789 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:16:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Though this can be a merit, it is also a tool for con artists. Donโt be a con artist. And donโt be manipulative.
B3eenthehedges ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
True, it's good advice, but the reasons come across as very manipulative.
Maybe just try to get up.for your interview and if you sleep in, then hope that this happens, rather than using it as a gaslighting "tip" to make rhem feel responsible for your actions.
cocoabiscuits ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:37:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Honey, how big am I?"
Me: yes.
paranoidpoptart ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think you said too much.
paranoidpoptart ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Happy shared cake day!
cocoabiscuits ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:17:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
you too! Thank you!
glasspheasant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โTiny compared to me.โ
mrdonnyjohnson ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:05:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: donโt sleep through an interview
Shnoopy_Bloopers ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:30:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty good advice. You never know when someone will try to use your words against you.
drosten23 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:13:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No offense to OP but I think the real LPT here is to be on time.
rytheFFguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Two very good LPT's here, the first OP outlined in their post, the second is always be prepared, especially for interviews. When I've interviewed I've usually tried to make sure I was available 30 min before, whether it be phone or in person, that way if something delays you you'll more than likely still be on time.
Jamesdavid0 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:03:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
47K upvotes for this.... are people really that stupid..
refreshbot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Many of them suffer the sins of their fathers, or lack thereof.
DropkickGoose ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:09:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
See, I've learned to do this, and now I come across cold and withdrawn from people including people I try and date. Its real hard to open up and just talk about stuff now. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or what.
JoeTait15_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ah, the equivocator
pokey_bum_wannk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone tell my coworker this?
He can't keep his mouth shut about anything.
jerkstor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:39:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It feels so good keeping your mouth shut.
windywx22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent, excellent advice that I wish I had known/listened to a thousand times when I was younger.
fish_taco4u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Loose lips sink ships
Patokwak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm following this but dependent if I know the person. I'm stuck on being more helpful or not as there's a chance someone will abuse you even friends. Also, revealing hobbies may make you a friend or someone requesting to do something for free because it's "just a hobby".
roxifoxi512 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so guilty of vomitus of the mouth....
KCBandWagon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly: Don't keep arguing/talking when you've already won/got your way. You will quickly turn that around.
VinceTanner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Loose lips sink ships.
Sin-A-Bun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the same vein if you get asked yes or no questions just answer instead of immediately giving the reason/excuse. This will get you far at work.
rlDrakesden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's it
The single most useful piece of information I've seen posted. This also applies to many different instances, value yourself and be direct, honest and minimalist. You'll have the highest chance of getting the answer you want, otherwise you'll look like you're giving excuses and are at fault on your own.
A_single_sardine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One time I asked my professor to extend the due date of an online test because I missed it. He extended it and I passed.
angry_1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/DjgJMMAgf2s
cacarson7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This goes DOUBLE when dealing with law enforcement of ANY kind.
Earlwolf84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But here you are on Reddit volunteering this information. You are full on contradictions
nowhereman136 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tip with lying. Only give enough information to explain yourself. Don't make up a whole story to go along with the lie. The more you talk, the more guilty you look.
pewnanner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:07:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I JUST lost my job because I volunteered some information I shouldnโt have.
TheFalseDimitryi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:07:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is so true, Iโm a delivery driver and sometimes weird stuff comes out making me take way longer than expected. When I was first starting I would always offer up why I took longer than usual (even if not questioned or prompted) and my boss and I-workers would just roll their eyes and say โbe fasterโ but after a while I realized they donโt actually notice when youโre gone or show up. If itโs 15 min or 45 min they donโt actually notice or care. Eventually I stopped saying anything and just had a โIโll get back when I get backโ vibe and I was never questioned or bothered. Know Iโm confident I could take like an hour making a delivery 2 miles away and no one would notice. Not that I would, I need my tip money lol
on_dy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โInformation is power.โ
It has been this way for hundreds of years and it will continue to be like this for years to come. Donโt let people use information against you, especially your information.
soulsista12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Love this. People need to stop showing everyone all their cards
cereal-kills-me ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever need to request a day off from work, don't feel the need to tell them why. Your personal matters should not matter to them. If they do, that's a problem on their part.
Droppingbites ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A closed mouth gathers no feet.
upandcomingvillain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is the golden rule in my world. That and when you do have to say something be mindful of whether or not a little ambiguity would be helpful.
yourcousinvinny3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad's advice before he died at 58, keep your mouth shut and your eyes open
Jeff_with_a_J ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best thing Iโve read on reddit, ever.
PresiTraverse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is the most true, real, and important LPT I've seen posted here.
Syaoransbear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've interviewed a lot of people where the first 10 minutes I was pretty confident they would be a good hire, to 20 minutes in being pretty sure I would pass, and then 30 minutes in certain that they had this interview mixed up with their therapy appointment. God damn people spill their guts in all the worst ways trying to impress people.
Drew- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Extra important when talking to police. If you are under arrest, you dont say a word. They are not your friends, they aren't trying to "help you out" or "hear your side of it." The only acceptable word is lawyer.
Source : dads a lawyer and had this talk when I was 16.
TakeMeToFlavorTown95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This advice will drastically reduce the amount of headaches you have at work. Solid pro tip.
Jay_Tee_G ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Miranda rights aren't just for arrests
hryelle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Public service 101. NEVER give up more than legally required.
bulsk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Maaaan I need to practice this skill. I get verbal diarrhea whenever Iโm under pressure.
waffle_raffle_battle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have one DUI on my record because I told a police officer I smoked pot before getting in the vehicle.
Nualkris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We learned this in nuclear power school!
Examiner: Do you know how the turbine converts steam to electricity?
Me: Yes
Interviewer: <sigh> Explain how the turbine converts steam to electricity.
Nappeal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a serious challenge for those of us who live with something of a constant guilty conscience. I've found too that if I get to the point and forget about adding the "fluff" to what I've got to say that I think others will want to hear, chances are much higher I'll get the outcome I want.
Prime157 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yay capitalism! Don't own mistakes.
But yes, absolutely, you have to act like the rest of the psychopaths if you want to get ahead.
I sold my soul too
uCry_iLoL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent advice especially for the workplace
Phloofy_as_phuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best advice I've read on this sub. To add another thing, never start an email with an apology.
BurrSh0tFirst ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less smile more
Humpadilo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:03:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can confirm this from the other side. I am in the military and when I get on to my Soldiers, silence is my weapon. I say a few words about what I am getting on to them for and then I just stop talking and stare at them. Almost 90% of the time they offer up more details about what happened than what I originally knew. Works on my kids also.
Scharei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:18 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't do this to your kids.
Humpadilo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:07 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ok
Ban_this_nazi_mods ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
a lie by omission will also get you in trouble in most cases.
Poseidon-GMK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:26:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Statie: "So... here's the thing, you're driving record is awful... I dont know why I'm not giving you a ticket"
Me: chuckles "yeah it's pretty bad.. I dont know why you arent either, but I appreciate it"
Statie: "You have a fancy truck here, I'm sure it has cruise control, use the damn thing"
To this day is the coolest cop I've encountered while being pulled over.
Somerandomdude97655 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:32:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Iโve taken one sick day in the last 14 months and all I said was โI need to take a mental health day.โ
If I ever actually needed to fake sick for something I have full confidence that Iโd be able to.
Greedy-Lychee2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:51:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes and no. If you need a favor injecting *any* reason why you need it makes it more likely to get what you want.
"Can I cut in line?" NO
"Can I cut in line because because the floor is wet" Yes.
Backed by science, bitches.
TheGreatBwaBwa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, learnt this the hard way when I was 18. Started babbling about something (political for the time) in an interview and was promptly shut down and interview ended.
Their is a power in silence.
Beecher-Frank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:01:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why does this have 99k upvotes???
JakiStow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:36:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/UnethicalLifeProTips
seaturtle79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am an overexplainer for sure... It is because bof how I was raised. Everything I did was put under a microscope... I always "had ulterior motives" for everything. So if I am late I immediately want to explain all the reasons... And make sure they know it was not intentional! I was also consumed with anxiety at my job that I would get fired for any small mistake because of this, and am still this way even if late for a doctors appointment. I have been trying to learn to do this
Dean_Soja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:02:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, donโt talk to the police. They are not your friends.
HerNameIsVoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have a horrible habit of oversharing AND divulging waaaay too much information, unnecessary information. I need to try to remember this. Damn. ASD problems.
cheesypoofs5000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol same. Then when I'm overwhelmed and don't say anything I'm accused of being rude and stuck up. I've learned to preemptively apologize because no one ever tells me when I screw up or they deny when I ask if I did something only to get angrier when I believe them.
I'd rather be weirdly considerate than rude and hurt people's feelings. ๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ
HerNameIsVoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeahhhh, I over-apologize too and I'm really trying to stop but I'm so used to doing that. Sometimes, I won't know what to say to someone so I'll just default "I'm sorry."
cheesypoofs5000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Socializing is hard.
alexbx77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel that most jobs will see being late to the interview as a bad sign and either not reschedule or reschedule but not hire you. I think this tip belongs in the non ethical tips sub. How about LPT: Take responsibility for your fuck ups and tell the truth
chevron_one ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In addition when you're on the job and people think they're "making conversation," don't volunteer more than you want to. No one is obligated to share more than they're comfortable with. It's perfectly fine to want to keep your personal life separate from work because you really can't know who to trust.
dutchmvp33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:37 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excuses, friends donโt need them, and enemies wonโt believe them.
LadyBogangles14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:20 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a recruiter and this is the best route. Just say, Iโm sorry I missed your call, letโs reschedule.
However, donโt be late on that call. If you reschedule 2-3 times, it will look very bad.
Also, never schedule a phone interview when you might be late.
Just take the time to be available.
Recruiters will understand and respect that you are taking the screening seriously.
I had a candidate who was in the grocery store and every two sentences she was stopping to yell at her kid to not to touch things.
It looks so bad
scarredsquirrel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:36 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like when you get pulled over donโt try to guess why.
โDo you know why I pulled you over?โ
โNo officerโ
Thatโs how it should go
Not โI was speedingโ
โYup and ...โ boom now youโre in more trouble dumbass
TheGenie7777 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:27 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm on the other side of this, I work in HR and deal with interviewing frequently. This is spot on, if youโre late donโt panic, just call, apologize, ask if you can reschedule. No excuses. Works 90% of the time. And while on this topic, please never wear cologne or perfume to an interview, you never know if someone there is sensitive to it. Or as in one case that happened last week, guy came in, great resume, great pre phone interview, but he came into the conference room and reeked of cologne. It was over powering I almost gagged. It was a difficult 2 hours. If he was hired our whole office would reek. And I donโt think itโs my responsibility to tell him. We had too many other qualified candidates so we went with someone else.
Jake-L ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:04:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't call people "kids". LPT
me-myself_and-irene ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:50:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even funnier that this dude is sleeping late, looking for a job and also missing the interviews..
And this guy is giving Life Pro Tips?
Nah I'm good.
LPT get out of bed you lazy ass
Gaben38 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:01:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Calling redditors kids is perfectly fine.
Jake-L ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 02:02:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.
Well, it's fine if you're a Boomer douche.
but, that's about it.
OrangeCenter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:43:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a kid lol
Jake-L ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How is that ?
Gaben38 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:07:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ok zoomer.
Jake-L ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:09:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Weak.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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Jake-L ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Weak, again.
ElJamoquio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
kids these days with their lpt
Jake-L ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be such a kid.
ElJamoquio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
just kidding!
i_deserve_less ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:32:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do that all the time. I'm middle aged and work in retail. They are all kids, to me
Jake-L ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 01:33:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Middle aged man that works in retail who sleeps in and misses his interviews.
And the rest of us are kids?
i_deserve_less ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:47:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Who said I slept in and missed interviews?
Jake-L ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 01:50:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In regards to the post , ffs.
brownbluegrey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:05:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then why reply to the other post?
Jake-L ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 02:06:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Huh? I replied to both people. The original post and the comment.
Read Boomer.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:18:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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Jake-L ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:18:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You must be new here.
Do you even know what to do ?
brownbluegrey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:10:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The person who slept in and wrote the post is different from the person who works retail.
Read boomer.
Jake-L ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:10:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I replied to both...
I just said it..
How dumb are you ?
brownbluegrey ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:27:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So you replied to one person with a comment that only had to do with the other person. I am asking why would you do that.
Jake-L ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:30:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Because it was an overview on the OP and a reply to the one commenting as a whole.
I overestimated your ability to think and grasp the concept obviously. You're probably not ready for the internet yet.
PartypantsPete ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:43:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre trying too hard. Obvious troll is obvious.
Jake-L ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Saying someone has tried to hard after two sentences is a clear indication that you're just a dumb shit.
PartypantsPete ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, because I couldnโt possibly be commenting on the entire context of what youโve written here, could I? Which is ironic if you think about it considering youโve been prattling all about context so much...
Either way, again obvious troll is obvious. No point in continuing this. Blocked! :)
brownbluegrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:12:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay boomer. Learn how to properly use reddit to reply to comments please.
Jake-L ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Saying okay Boomer, automatically makes you the biggest fucking idiot around here so far.
Use Reddit to gain a better well rounded understanding of the internet, terms, slang and how people utilise it.
If you can't understand it, then take a step back. You aren't ready yet.
brownbluegrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay boomer
Jake-L ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How old are you ? Lol
Guaranteed, you're older then me. Ha
brownbluegrey ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:09:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay boomer
Jake-L ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha!
You must be older then your average boomer.
brownbluegrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:24:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay boomer
Jake-L ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha yes!
You're living up to the stereotype
brownbluegrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay boomer
azanzel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:12:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You are the idiot here btw. Just admit you thought it was OP and combined both...
Jake-L ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 03:13:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you're to dumb to understand it then just take a step back.
blackgandalff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:25:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay I read โBoomerโ now what?
TardigradeFan69 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:33:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can you stop?
i_deserve_less ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:13:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can try
Rise_Of_War7 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I personally hate this line myself but I can't stop myself from saying it.
Ok boomer
caveat_cogitor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: DO provide more context for your tip in your post title
aj5r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:59:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: Apply this LPT broadly, ignoring context.
SlattTheSlime ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:53:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Half these LPTโs that make it to the top of r/all are just some vague LPT with a long ass story after them. This sub is just turning into r/tifu r/AmITheAsshole or other subs where ppl always fabricate shit for upvotes
psychiatrixx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:15:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Comment section seems to be filled with paranoia & short poppy syndrome. Hiding behind crowd & tip toeing away silently in life is a good way if you are a โfollowerโ type. But if you are a โleaderโ type then do exactly opposite to what majority of the comments suggest. Of course you have to be honest & should have nothing illegal to hide to begin with. Only then you can confidently look the cop or the interviewer in the eye & speak from that vantage point. The hierarchy is soon established after that & you gain their respect from the first sentence forth. Donโt hide. Shine bright. One life. Volunteer. Speak up. Bring bright new ideas into this world. Work hard. Party harder. Donโt care what people would say. Live large & enjoy the fruits of your efforts
Robochumpp ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:58:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What even is this comment.
circusolayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โOur deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.โ
S-K_123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:41 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or you could learn how to lie with confidence. How else do you think American politicians manage to not only do fuck all on the taxpayers' dime but continually manage to hold office for decades while never doing an honest day's worth of work?
psychiatrixx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:52 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It sure is mind boggling to observe how blind delusional confidence (with no real basis in truth) can make you leader/s of the free world. It just proves that just pure confidence can get you to the top (and funny at the same time). But it is known that the less educated/more ignorant one is the more confidence one has; however the more one is knowledgeable the more one doubts their own abilities (the more one knows, the more he/she understands that they only know a fraction of the whole) - high time that the educated (not just literate) ones stand up to the ignoramuses ruling this planet
Narrich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've always found that the people who say shit like this care more than anyone else does lmao
beanbagflake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:24:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think I learnt this from a Dilbert book. And ever since I've always kept things in this kinda situation short and sweet.
Apologise. Don't bother with details cos no one cares and it almost always looks like a buncha lame excuses. (Unless you were decapitated or were rescuing pregnant mothers from a burning building or something, but even then, like op said, give that info later if nessicary)
move on.
???
Profit!
SixStrung ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
This isnโt really sage adviceโyou fucked up an interview time and they took the blame. Try the same silent treatment when youโve slept in for a few work days and see how it goes.
pooreading ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or you know, try to live with some integrity and never have to worry about withholding information. I don't do that of course. I'll rob you of every cent you own and brag about it, but it's still good advice
cb00sh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also: when applying to jobs, don't miss the interview.
What on Earth kind of example is this.
huntnfish77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What I hear in this, is donโt take personal responsibility for your actions/inactions.
Marsupialize ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:32:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, if you canโt even wake up for the interview, you probably wonโt do very well on the job
Austaph ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:31:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They knew you fucked up, they just gave you an out. I'm on the other side of this situation all the time and always give people a few outs. Why? Because people remember how you make them feel, and making people feel lucky & relieved is good business practice.
"We've been having issues with our email lately, would you mind sending your resume over again?" gets used all the time w/people who fuck up that part of the interview.
Take your get out of jail free card and be humble about it, but don't think that they don't know.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:43:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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vanishingtact ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:04:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even when I'm really actually sick, I feel guilty and like my boss might think I'm lying so I feel like I need to be detailed. Lol
DirtyPrancing65 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:09:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that means they're lying necessarily. I'll be honest, as a young person in a work environment where I'm expected to be available near constantly, when I'm sick I always over explain because they make me feel so guilty about it. Like being sick is as bad as lying - so I ramble and promise to come in in the afternoon even though I know I'm too sick.
I suppose you know your work environment and employees best. Are they just feeling guilty for being sick or are they lying?
Auto_Generated_Acct ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you're ever working somewhere that does that shit, you find a less toxic work environment.
InverseConverse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Want to make it believable? Have someone else call for you!
Rosulu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I actually had to have someone else call in for me once. Was a shitty feeling lol
DiscretionFist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just take PTO, no questions asked (but dont abuse your PTO kids)
Auto_Generated_Acct ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:24:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You rather someone come in symptomatic and contagious?
You're trash.
Limp_Distribution ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:28:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know the time?
Yes, itโs 3:30pm
Stop doing that!
What
Answering more than was asked.
Huh?
Do you know what time it is.
Yes
Well, done.
oldDotredditisbetter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
where is this from/
Faldorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The west wing. CJ Craig and the white house chief counsel. https://youtu.be/H5YqX0ewEnY
oldDotredditisbetter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
thanks!
zigafu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Props for the west wing quote!
HawkeyesVision ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is only a Pro Tip if you got the job!
ihambrecht ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is pretty much universal. Hold your cards close to your chest. You donโt know what will be used against you.
genghisKHANNNNN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The three most important words I learned going through a divorce: "I don't recall."
cmcewen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:43:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: Donโt miss appointments and be there early if you want them to hire you. Because thatโs what the competition is doing.
GoBillsGoSabres ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:01:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: dont be a lazy shitbag that cant even set an alarm to have a fuckin phone interview. I dont care how desperate I was for the job I would be way too embarrassed to even accept the job under false pretenses. Fuck I even took a look see into your profile seeing if you were one of the college grads that complain about not being able to get a job when really they expected it would get handed to them on a silver platter. You, however, are fuckin stupid educated. I cant even pinpoint where your degree of expertise lies. Is it quantum mechanics? Is it in fuck knows what specific history degree? I apologize for my initial reaction, it was harsh, albeit deserving. Get yo shit together and dont force yourself to have your tail between your legs for getting kicked when really life just accidentally stepped on you. You seem cool as fuck.
DrAlkibiades ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:36:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Who brags about sneaking out of sleeping through an interview? Who cares that you came out ahead, you are still a total loser.
Auto_Generated_Acct ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:23:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Spoken like an uneducated ditchdigger.
GoBillsGoSabres ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Retorted like a lazy deceiving shitbag. ๐
mareksoon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:56:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Then hop on Reddit and tell everyone because karma > paycheck! ;-)
rpanko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is incredibly valuable advice.
I work as a district manager for a chain of stores, and itโs my job to ensure everyone is compliant with merchandising/service/etc.
I canโt tell you how much I appreciate when an employee just simply apologizes and formulates a solution when something is wrong.
Excuses mean absolute jack shit.
TheWestwoodStrangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt know how many people need to hear this, but this goes damn sure if youโre ever deposed.
carsonnwells ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Right.
ALWAYS control information !
ceejaetee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The value in patience, great pro tip!
BJandtheRV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learned this as a teenager when I thought my mom knew something I didn't want her to know and inadvertently admitted to it (she didn't know).
mookusu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did you get the job?
kynikos19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is definitely something I coach my people when preparing for court. Yes/no answers when you can and only answer what youโve been asked. Thereโs been a few times Iโve had to try to help baby attorneys mostly because they didnโt prep me before court and so theyโre asking for things I canโt answer, but for the most part, donโt volunteer information!
Darwin42SW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is something that Iโve always struggled with. I try so hard to justify everything I do, that I often give more information than necessary. There have been many problems that I could easily avoided if Iโd just kept my mouth shut.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
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Tubesocks4u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And the silver spoon
Daddy_Shark_Doo_Doo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm g Nana use this advice when see if I can still turn in a paper due yesterday
mrshouseofharrison ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I once saw this gal wearing a shirt that said โnever complain, never explainโ and I think itโs so true! So happy for you and this sorry! Iโm a serial over explainer and itโs something Iโm working on. I hope the interview went well!
bdaruna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Contrary to popular belief, placing your cards on the table is a far more successful negotiating strategy. This is game theory, which doesnโt work.
project_rattler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
lol. it reminds me of "The Rock" "know your roll and shut your mouth." I've been down this road too, except they pinned it on the secretary who'd just quit their position for other opportunities.
BigDavesRant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hereโs a LPT for not missing interviews, and I promise Iโm not trying to sound like a dick... I just know that horrible feeling when you oversleep! Set up multiple alarms and in addition, ask a friend to call to make sure youโre up! In this instance, this person got lucky, but imagine you just slept through the interview for your dream job! I know Iโd be physically ill if I blew my only chance and the employer told me to take a hike since I didnโt deem this opportunity important enough to make sure Iโm awake and on time.
Saint_Gretchen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck with the interview!
price101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly never ever make excuses.If you mess up, and they say you messed up, just say sorry, my fault.
jm331107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The old adage, "don't complain and don't explain"
DeeWhee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
God damn, where was this advice 5 days ago...
Thank you for this reminder! :)
pinkbike42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can anyone help shed light on how to over come this?
Offtheheazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Was late to an interview once because of bad traffic and I didn't leave early enough.
I thought about telling them so sorry there was this huge accident and I didn't leave early enough.
When I got there I just said sorry I'm late there was traffic I drove up from pretty far. And everyone was asking me if I was ok and how the drive was since it was 100+ miles away.
shinigamiscall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have become more and more cynical with my age. I can clearly see how bad the decisions people make are and the outcome but if I open my mouth they just get upset. After all, they say "the worst vice is advice". So, I've learned to laugh. To laugh at the easily avoided mistakes they make in life.
BeyondAddiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I like the Chili Palmer approach - say nothing more than you have to, if that.
Everyone who doesn't know who Chili Palmer is or hasn't seen "Get Shorty" and to a lesser extent its sequel "Be Cool," definitely give them a watch.
countmontecristo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The best advise I ever got was from a Bobba Fett side story book when I was a kid "when it comes to money, never tell the whole truth"
thatguytom__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta know when to hold em and when to fold em
suck_it_and_c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Words to live by
snizzletoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. This might be the first useful tip I have read on here. Thanks op!!
sailingexpert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I have been trying to teach my self this for the past year and it has changed my life.
PanchosLegend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This goes back to them early days when one of your parents would be upset at you saying you did something wrong.
Never snitch yourself out, always let them say what they know before you do.
Beastimor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dude this is my rule anymore. My business ainโt nobodies business, and the moment I apologize I have given over authority. I like the phrase โleave it with my pillow and my motherโ no one else needs to know anything about me.
xAsianZombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What did you say exactly?
throwawayacct600 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a similar situation on Tuesday morning. My company gave us Monday off but my (micro)manager sent the team an email invite (on Monday night) for a conference call at 9am Tuesday morning.
I should preface this with the team are all sales reps that do not have a central office. We work on our own territories. I missed the email and noticed at 9:45 Tuesday morning I'd missed the call. I immediately started thinking of reasons/excuses and was about to call my manager when it occurred to me that I should call a teammate first.
The teammate informed me the call was the usual shitshow, our manager tried to lead a conference call from a busy airport gate (nobody could hear her), and hadn't taken roll call. I was relieved to say the least.
hellkyng ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you work with auditors this advice is solid freaking gold.
amykp008 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
this is also excellent legal advice in general
yeetiselitist123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I try to explain this to people, and they donโt get it. When people call in to work they want to tell you why, never do that. You donโt owe anyone an excuse.
Not_sure_if_george ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Works for police interaction too
CrocodileFish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What did you say exactly?
Sorry, can we reschedule? Or sorry I missed it, can we reschedule?
meaniebobeanie09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of when your cooking, go easy on the salt/seasoning you can always add but you cant subtract.
King_Kzare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I didnโt lie to you. I just didnโt tell you everything ๐
Soreqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Youโll always have the power position if you hold more info than the other party
rainee14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Someone once told me in the workplace it's best to ask for forgiveness only when they've accused you of wrong
Granite-M ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oliver Babish: Do you know what time it is?
C.J. Cregg: It's five past noon.
Oliver Babish: I'd like you to get out of the habit of doing that.
C.J. Cregg: Doing what?
Oliver Babish: Answering more than was asked.
Oliver Babish: Do you know what time it is?
C.J. Cregg: Yes.
Semanticss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's true, less is more. Lately I've been going back and trimming off like 30-40% of my emails before I send them.
NoobHunterSpecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the one who employed you. If this was the case then please don't come to work anymore.
tylerden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yip. If you new at a job and you ask to many questions YOU look like the idiot even though you want to understand everything. The ones that just keep there mouths shut are better off.
ElfBingley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never complain
Never explain
Never resign
(note the last one referes to resigning as a protest, not just getting another job)
d00phy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably wonโt be seen, but this reminds me of a scene from West Wing:
Babbish: Do you know what time it is?
CJ: (tells Home the time)
Babbish: I really wish you would get out of the habit of doing that.
CJ: Doing what?
Babbish: Answering more than was asked.
... skip ahead...
Babbish: Do you know what time it is?
CJ: Yes.
Edit: formatting
swaroope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I recently missed an evening meeting because I forgot. I realized after an hour, panicked and wrote a mail to the whole team apologizing for my negligence. Apparently, the call was cancelled. It was informed to my manager who didnโt tell me. If I kept my mouth shut till next morning, I wouldnโt have looked like an idiot.
SevenStringGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If theres anything I've learned from working in environments that frequently get audited by various outside agencies (both government and other) its this: dont lie, but give the bare minimum you need to answer any questions
hanoian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I never give an "excuse" when I call in sick. I just say I won't be in.
oknatethegreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
HR Corporate Recruiter here.
I donโt mind rescheduling ANY phone interview ONCE. If you miss my call twice, Iโm annoyed.
But one reschedule is fine.
SheetShitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In college I had a huge problem with this. My fraternity gave me the nickname โinfobotโ as a pledge. They made me cover myself in tin foil and move like a robot as I cleaned the fraternity house.
I got very good at not offering up information.
Except for this comment of course
caralto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
maybe make an exception if you chatting to your medical doctor
deathleech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Calls everyone kids after s/he just got done doing something very childish by sleeping through their interview
hedgiegod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learned this in the Navy!
Never Again Volunteer Yourself
blud-raven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not only is this really effective for communicating with other people, it will help keep your own thoughts/interior monologue down at a reasonable level.
imaloony8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
At my current job, they specifically tell us that if weโre calling off, just call off. They donโt want to hear a sob story about grandma slipping on ice. Just call in, say youโre not coming in, and hang up.
fgonza0267 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is such great advice in every aspect in life!
Also over explaining your decision. In many circumstances there is no need to explain yourself or your decision, all it does is make you look not confident.
hmiski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse me, are you Aaron Burr, sir?
wikisaiyan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never tell your left hand what your right hand doing.
blazezero25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:28 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the next LPT: communication is key!
-_Flop_- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Along the same line, at work, don't say anything that you wouldn't want repeated, especially if it's about a coworker. Everyone loves to gossip, and they can and will betray your trust at the first opportunity.
WellLatteDa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same goes with apologies.
Starting one with "I'm sorry, BUT..." instantly qualifies the apology with excuses. Know when to stop talking.
middleagedman69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What ever happened to honesty being the best policy?
kiwihavern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โI once worked with a guy for three years and never learned his nameโ
Oncewasinteresting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best friend I've ever had
Veblenomics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I like to say, โDonโt answer a question that isnโt askedโ
news_main ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk Less, Smile more. - Burr
happyapy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always.
Be honest, but exercise restraint.
burningice322 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of this great advice
duncecap_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always give this information to friends about cancelling plans. Just say you can't and be as vauge as you can and people won't question it
BillyBean11111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You can almost always tell the liars by how detailed and willing they are to tell you about how sick they are.
Junction52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Admit nothing, Deny everything, Make Counter Accusations.
The Specialist's Creed!
Southruss000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I missed a mandatory work meeting for the 3rd time last week, which is grounds for termination, and i have not said anything about it nor has my boss said anything about it to me. He did not notice according to mt colleagues and i won't bring it up because I like my job
holmyliquor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just got fired... thanks buddy
Erin960 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I once said I had a script that cleaned up computers and would eventually be implemented in every computer to clean disk space. Never gave it out and never would stop being asked for it.
Mortar_Maggot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're trying to close the trap on someone else. But that's advanced skullduggery.
Packers_Equal_Life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly need to learn this. You are an honest person (excuses aside) but I do the same thing. I have a need to explain the exact situation and even my thoughts behind it.
Trextoasty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've been employing this at work really well lately with arranging for time off. I've got three entirely different appointments that are fairly serious but one is far, far more serious than the others involving the hospital. However, my manager has not asked me which of the three dates I've given is which, so they're treating all three of those dates as incredibly important because I haven't told them and they haven't asked.
truesentence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly the right advice for me in my life. I always think that a true explanation will endear people to me and whatever plight Iโm currently experiencing. Truth is, people are busy and generally donโt care. Say yes, say no, be accountable but brief. Thank you for this.
Mike_Hagedorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It took me SO MANY FAILS to finally figure out this lesson. Point is, Iโll never embarrass myself again.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a lawyer I wholeheartedly agree.
bellamyboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not gonna lie, but in most cases, and with most employers, thatโs not going to fly. Absolutely offer an explanation in these cases if itโs a job you want. You just wasted their time, and not explaining why is just weird.
scobbyrott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was interviewing for a job right out of college. I drove 10 hours to get to the town where I would be working. I ended up showing up to the interview half an hour late, but oblivious because I thought I was in the same time zone when in fact I was in a different one. I nailed the interview despite everyone acting pretty rushed and slightly frantic. Found out about the time zones when I got back to my hotel and had a small panic attack. Ended up getting the job starting at 5k more than they offered and have been working there for 2.5 years.
WhitePrivilege101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Missing a call is an automatic rejection from me when Iโm hiring. The only exception is if there is a valid reason! Iโm glad this worked out for you but itโs not something I would bank on!
AthiestCowboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good advice for people you don't necessarily trust and want to do business with. With those close there is strength in vulnerability and candor. It builds relationships.
aventadorlp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
r/learningtobeanadult, okay kid
chonchi8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hear you loud and clear!
AnswerGuy301 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is fantastic advice. You also learn this in law school, but Reddit wonโt leave you with a six-figure sum of debt.
nicechemtrailsbrah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a better version of this is learn when to withhold information versus when to volunteer information. Sometimes volunteering information before another party is helpful in building trust :)
jervis02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Funny story about this at my work. Rental company called and asked what time we finished working on customer car. We were gunna say Friday so we didn't have to pay for rental over the weekend as it was parked at our lot. I called them back saying yep she returned Friday. And he replied saying o since I left you a message I called the customer and asked her and she said Tuesday morning. Doh. Now we look bad..
scabrousdoggerel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One of the best books on interviewing I read had a line that went something like: Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much.
bruhaha420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never apologize, never explain.
โ Coco Chanel
Punkistador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โ4. Always say less than necessary.โ -Robert Greene (48 Laws of Power)
LykusBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is defintely something I have learned. My mom always tries to get me to stretch the truth and explain everything when I ask her for advice.
For example, I want to call in sick to work.
She'll tell me, "Apologize, tell them you are sick and you have been up all night with a 104ยฐ fever, you've been throwing up and have the chills, so you want to stay home and recover! But that you will be back as soon as you feel better."
Just calling and saying "Hey woke up feeling sick. Sorry, I can't come in today." suffices plenty. No questions asked.
Keep it short and simple. Otherwise you will just sound like you are making an excuse.
Pm_me_your_tits_85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I know this and yet I still canโt help but open my big mouth sometimes.
4dseeall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Man, this totally goes against my "Always upfront honestly" mantra I've been following in life.
To be fair tho, it's gotten me nowhere, and if everyone's cheating and you're not, you're losing.
MiamiPower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Press (1) for dry snitching on the web.
Press (2) for free tree50 reddit high school career counseling,
Press (3) for internet venting.
Press (Snooze) for missing another phone interview.
jedberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And the corollary is โdonโt ask questions you donโt want the answer toโ.
Just got something for free? Donโt ask why if they might take it!
rynplm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
But also, never wake up late for anything. Always be on time. Always.
If youโre late and itโs out of your control, then yes your advice makes perfect sense.
Spencer_62 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So you got lucky?
LPT: get lucky
Come the fuck on Reddit. This is lazy content. Remove this shit moderators
TheBreasticle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am constantly reminding myself of this and appreciate this post.
As an extrovert, I sometimes just dump information... over sharing.
My 2020 New Years resolution is one word, and Iโm committing to standing by it (not joking): BOUNDARIES
jisitu2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a recruiter, confirmed. Please just reschedule
KBHoleN1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My boss does expert witness testimony, frequently opposing corporations with teams of lawyers with questionable ethics. He has told me many times, with these courtroom lawyers in mind, โif someone asks you if you know what time it is, say yes.โ Donโt volunteer more info than they ask.
Wayfall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do this shit all the time. Someone will say something and I'm thinking oh shit good thing I didn't say that thing I was thinking of saying before that related to this otherwise id be deep shit. It's like I dodged a bullet without even knowing.
Evigilant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never be first, never be last, never volunteer for anything.
zandrewz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is debate rule if thumb too. Dont do your enemies work for them. Say nothing but what is necessary.
Enryu84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What % of LPTs are "humble brags"?
ramoizain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with your information. Btw, they may still have a good idea of what actually happened, but they appreciate discretion and good judgement. If youโre just out there volunteering every goddamn thing you know, youโre doing it wrong. Employers care about results, not all your bullshit.
Ravrutu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Had the same experience but not soo related to it. I had an thank you speech to give on an annual festival day at school. There would have been almost 1000 pair of eyes on me. I was preparing for the speech and was extremely nervous. So my uncle said โeven if you by mistake forgot something to speak, just donโt stutter as they donโt even know what you had preparedโ that made me realize that thats it. I am the one who controls what to say and they donโt know what i had written.
TeaSwarm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So I have a tendency to blab and talk to much. Its just part of my anxiety. Usually people don't care. They don't want details. Just get straight to the point. Keep it short and simple.
Cest_lovie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Information is king
44tacocat44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To add to this: If someone gives an excuse, but you want more information, just maintain eye contact and remain silent. They will get uncomfortable and try to ease it by talking more.
pls_send_subway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be aware that you can lie by omission. There's a fine line here and it can get you in trouble.
42Ubiquitous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt let silence be used as a tool to make you talk either. People are often compelled to talk when there is silence to prevent awkwardness. Police use it as a tactic sometimes. Donโt fall for it.
NAGGERDICKEDYA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry but this isnt what makes America the best country of workers. You sound lazy and Iโm not even 35.
usonofabitcimin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
you dont need to give anyone full disclosure, ever
t_hab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a person who hires, careful with this advice.
Iโll happily reschedule with people and I will always give them an out โit was probably my fault for x y or z reasonโ but I know what really happened. And if you lie to me or seem so disinterested that you werenโt aware of our scheduled interview time, you bump yourself way down the list.
Variants of this advice keep coming up to young professionals and it is always wrong. Donโt be full of shit. Other people know and nobody appreciates it. If you are wrong, admit it, apologize, and move on. Thatโs what being an adult means. The exception is when you have legal problems in which case shut up and talk to a lawyer.
the_buckman_bandit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe we should volunteer the best version of the story for you instead of staying quiet and think it will work out for the best all on its own.
midas_1988 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
True, but I'm petty sure I'd be shot as soon as I mention meth.
reeses4brkfst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
On that same token, don't be afraid to be bold.
I just finished presenting a business plan to develop our IT dept. Over 5yrs and monetize our services too. I did this because my boss, whose job is to do this shit, wouldn't do it and I need a career path at this freaking place lol.
It was well received and the message was clear: I want to grow, I have ideas how I can do it, and I want the company to grow with me.
TheyCallMeChunky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's the old saying, better tk keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, instead of opening it and removing all doubt.
Khanscriber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โHow will you pay for โMedicare for Allโ?โ
With money.
Spurrierball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice but to add to it: always give information you want someone to know but make sure you do it tactfully.
When I interviewed for my current job me and my boss really hit it off and he made the comment: โI think that went really well and you might be a good fit with our firmโ to which I replied โyeah this has been one of my favorite interviews so far.โ Which lead to the follow up question of where else I had been interviewing which I disclosed but mentioned that none of them had offered me a position yet. I got the offer for the job the next day and my boss later told me they were quick to give me an offer (and felt more comfortable doing so despite being fresh out of school) because he knew I was being considered by a number of other reputable firms.
NotAnotherFelony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ok! My social security number is 212-37-1272
ryan-g ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Whenever I have an appointment scheduled with someone and I know they missed it, I always act like it was my mistake and that I must have messed it up. I wonder if they actually did have computer problems ๐
Infinite-Yak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Another one of these? It's ok to be honest with your employer. Good lord.
mydarkmeatrises ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Social media apps are in shambles.
jdbozeman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This goes for even mundane things. I swear some people just bump their gums because they like the sound of their own voice.
One instance that sticks out is about a year ago I was at one of those mall Chinese places to get some food to go. There was a few people in line. The lady in front of me started giving her order. She pointed to a tray that had 2 different chicken dishes (it was close to closing so they were combining stuff to start cleaning) in it and said "I want the chicken." The worker took the serving spoon and hovered it over one type of chicken and gave that "this one" look. This woman proceeded to go on a 45 second spiel about how she was allergic to the sauce on that chicken and how if she ate that she'd get hives and might have a reaction and have issues breathing and may have to go to the hospital and on and on and on and.... I just wanted to shake her and tell her that the correct answer is "no, the other one" and to let the worker go on about his day.
(Oh and there wasn't anything dividing the 2 chicken dishes and the worker was using the same spoon to dish out both, so I hope she enjoyed her hives.)
Sgrover50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Canโt upvote this enough. Less is always more
DinoDiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So basically, talk less and smile more. Aaron Burr turned out pretty well as I recall.
SHolmes07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is really an unethical life tip so that you can clear job rivals from the field. Well done, you. Thanks for weeding out candidates who fail to take ownership of something small like a job.
For any first time job seekers - this is crap advice. I wouldnโt advise giving gory details but give your potential employer an opportunity to see how you would handle this situation.
Flaco626 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never snitch in yourself
Legen_______Dary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Actually good LPT.
Dtoodlez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm working giving less info away but Iโm a bit of an open book unfortunately. Still itโs consciously on my mind now, because despite my open nature I have seen quieter people treated differently than me despite me being fairly successful in my job. Sometimes I feel like a bit of a joke despite my self deprecating humour intended to keep people in a good mood.
Nevertheless, when I am being serious and still in my open nature - honesty has been my go to. Not blatant tell on myself honesty, but a respond thatโs rooted in truth.
Taminella_Grinderfal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This applies if you are arrested. The natural inclination is to be โhelpfulโ cause that is how weโre wired. When it comes to cops, the only thing to say is โIโd like a lawyerโ or โam I under arrest or free to goโ. Read up on your rights, because most donโt know them and think by being truthful they wonโt be in trouble.
eist5579 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
-โHonestโ Abe
Lol. I was surprised I hadnโt found this quote yet.
slver6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That is the standar dude
TheElderCouncil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent advice. Even when you're in a meeting. Don't give away all the info if you don't have to.
DickMcCheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ART OF WAR... read it
WhiteSteveNash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
it's a good tip, and i'm working on it, because i talk a lot
Mishura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have a simple motto:
Don't answer a question that wasn't asked.
Wolf_Of_1337_Street ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of the negotiation book โNever Split the Differenceโ by Chris Voss. Full of lessons like this. Great read.
chlowe11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Cop once told me โdonโt plead guilty to what youโve not been accused of, sonโ
Words to live by.
Legobrick100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
While I agree with the LPT, I don't like your example. I wouldn't let someone blame themselves (or their company) for my mistakes.
SweetIsland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the field of medicine they call this Need to Know Basis. And itโs a solid LPT applicable to all fields of life.
Xudda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dont ever let your right hand know what your left hand got
OstritchSports ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How early was this interview?
Noveroh5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This actually works both ways... sort of. If you are having a conversation and come to a โlong pauseโ answer the question and SHUT UP. The long pause is there to get someone to keep talking. They get uncomfortable in the awkward silence and offer up more information than they should. Sometimes... most of the time, itโs better to just keep your mouth shut.
Commodore_Vanderbilt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
POT BROTHERS AT LAW one MINUTE TIP of the day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs
GotRabiesFromABaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I overslept and woke up about an hour before my interview. I considered so many bs excuses before I finally sent an email asking to reschedule. They had absolutely no problem with that. I didnโt get the job though.
warmhandswarmheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talking too much and giving too many details is also a sign of dishonesty. People run their mouth when they are anxious. I could tell when my kids were lying because they wouldn't shut up.
giblfiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This advice only really applies when you are on the bottom of a power dynamic in a single (or first) interaction.
Great advice when the cops stop you, Ok with your boss, Bad with coworkers, Bad advice with your employees, Terrible advice with your wife and kids
firefighting101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Unless itโs your spouse. Thatโs always suspicious.
ImOneToEnvy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I rarely call out of work, but on the rare occasion that I do, itโs always the same. โIโm not coming in today.โ No questions asked.
EHondaRousey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I ain't sayin nothin about your post, see?
Tmmybrbr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less, smile more?
kryptonianCodeMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got fucked twice recently. Carelessly fell for a phishing scam, then when I immediately caught fraudulent card use shortly after before I had a chance to get a new card, I told the woman that I fell for a phishing scam. My fucking bank somehow has apparently never experienced a phishing scam before and decided that because I gave my information to someone else (false pretenses be damned), that I, quote, "participated" in the purchase and so they let it go through and stuck me with the bill. If I had just said that there was a fraudulent charge and said nothing else, they'd have blocked the purchase immediately and neither they nor I would've been out any money. They're no longer my bank btw.
the_retart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
but you just volunteered information..
iLLicit__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When I call in sick to work I offer no explanation other than, "I'm not feeling well enough to go to work", they never ask wtf and if my boss does answer all he says is OK feel better.
Too many times have I heard ppl give this elaborate reason as to why they can't go to work and it always sounds like bs.
Taminella_Grinderfal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
At work or in life if people trust you and tell you stuff, DONโT GOSSIP. if you own the secrets, you have power. I knew days ago that my companyโs top sales person was resigning. I had extra days to prep for the fallout. Sharing stuff is tempting cause itโs โcoolโ to be the first to know, but no one will tell you anything if you canโt keep your trap shut.
ericsinsideout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To quote a probably sketch law firm in my area that specializes in fighting DUI and the like, โJust shut up!โ
materics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've volunteered too much information during interviews just because I rambled on too long. Sometimes you just don't need to elaborate.
Mikey_Medic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I like to say โDonโt try to baffle with bullshitโ
ruthbuzzi4prez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Do you know what time it is?"
"It's about 10:30AM."
"I want you to stop doing that."
"Doing what!?"
"Offering more information than was asked."
The woman stared angrily at the attorney.
"Do you know what time it is?"
Her eyes burned.
"Yes."
(God bless you, Aaron Sorkin)
statepkt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This also applies if you are ever arrested. Get a lawyer and donโt volunteer info to the officers.
Norcal712 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm terrible at this. To the point where I sometimes offer solutions that negatively effect me. Working on it since I noticed last year.
This is vital advice in a corporate world
SiRBob1234543 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
On a kinda related note, if you ever get arrested, abuse your right to remain silent. Acknowledge you understand your rights and keep your mouth shut
PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Dude I've been saying the exact same stuff: enough with excuses, just apologize and move on. Occasionally my last boss would informally ask me if everything is alright, and then I would give info. But excuses should never come first.
I also missed a phone interview once. Didn't give excuses but they still didn't want to proceed.
SirSureSire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's a cynical view of how people should communicate.
lyinggrump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, okay kiddo.
DogsPlan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is good advice. Sometimes, we naturally assume others know things they donโt and slip up into giving them info. I pulled a classic โthatโs not what I heardโ with a coworker and she immediately was like โdid [redacted] tell you?!โ Before that, I knew nothing. After that, I know there was something I needed to know and that [redacted] had all the info for me.
ilovevtecndpooc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Two times its happened I was just cruising on this main road for locals to drive up and down for stuff to do and I was in my ls400 and this guy was tryna race me so I hit the gas for like 2.5 seconds an hit like 60 ish and then I see charger headlights smashing in my rearview and so I pull over and cop was like going kinda fast ...I'm like "yea I'm going to my gfs" sorry my foot got the best of me.. hes like okay ...gives me warning lol same thing again and a warning now I drive much safer.
Southern_Baby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No offense, but I'm not going to take suspect life advice from somebody who sleeps through interviews and calls others kids. It's great that you mitigated a bit of your loserdom but that doesn't mean you have any helpful answers.
krosserdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a good advice. It's not about lying either. It's more about the fact that there are policy that people on the other side have to follow when certain keywords come up. If you don't trigger these policy, you can just get away with whatever.
KepplerObject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this so hard while I was a waiter. Never explain yourself when calling in sick. Those bastards are going to do whatever it takes to guilt you coming in. The dgaf if you had the plague and were handling food they just want you there. It helps that I kicked ass at my job and legit enjoyed it and knew that I was an asset for them. But donโt give them an inch they will take miles from you.
drunkapetheory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I Disagree! "Fake it until you make it" is the motto of the cancer cell.
Be open, honest, and direct - don't play games or manipulate anyone. It may benefit you for a short-while, but it is not sustainable or worthwhile.
5unny51deup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Kenny Rogers said it best... โknow when to hold emโ
Chybs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for volunteering us this information.
Sovngarten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You can always add more salt. But you can't take it out.
Always4am ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a PI, I strongly detest this message.
skittykeypoppop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Farva, whats that place you like to eat at with all the goofy shit on the walls?
Izikren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or just build a reputation for being honest maybe?
ChifundoNani ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This needs to be a mantra
postedUpOnTheBlock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Especially when talking to the police. If youโre going to answer questions, give short and to the point answers. Theyโre looking to trip you up.
oochooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You want some legal advice....STFU.
It's just that easy
Johneffer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt call me a kid when youโre sleeping in when you should be at a job interview bro
z01z ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
read the title, thought this was about talking to cops, like there was one of these last week about exactly that lol
oskyyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you so much for this. Honestly.
CleverNameTheSecond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Information is like cards at a poker game.
QuadraticCowboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like the type that would oversleep an interview
UnholyAbductor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
The 48 Rules of Power actually mentions this actually as Law number 4. And feels a bit redundant since Law 3 is โConceal your intentions.โ
robberviet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's my way of living.
Don't lie, but don't say everything. Sometimes it might twist the truth a bit, but hey, I didn't lie.
niconiconeko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less smile more? Weโre taking our LPTs from Aaron Burr now?
daz3d-n-c0nfus3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I even feel very strongly about that in all social situations (other then very selected few). I find people talk WAY to much. They divulge crazy amounts of personal information to essentially strangers.
Information is power
microwavedHamster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhh you were lucky. Don't take merit from this.
gentlemanlyconducts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve always heard it as โdonโt answer a question that wasnโt askedโ
Nadante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Possible r/UnethicalLifeProTips
TrapCardLol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My first job was at a small town rite aid pharmacy. I applied to be a shelf stalker, but was offered a pharmacy tech job. I didn't want that, but i just kept lying about how excited i was about it. I didn't want it, but ended up their anyways. 6 months of pure hell until i got another. Job, life lesson, dont lie
fraserbgf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Along with this, less talking gives you more time to listen.
benthic_vents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The flip to this is that, as a reporter with 25 years experience, I know when people are holding back and it drives me nuts.
BryanBulaga00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Anything you say can and will be used against you
yodaman1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't volunteer information
QUIT FACEBOOK DUMMIES
mchlzlck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Aaron Burr, sir?
WasteApplication9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You want to volunteer information when they know that information or will find out anyways. It makes you seem transparent and trustworthy esp if it's bad. Sometimes you want to not volunteer info if it's good for you and they'll find out, as people always believe stuff if they think you're trying to hide it from them.
You don't necessarily want to volunteer information if they aren't going to find it out, even if that information looks good for you. That's because if you always volunteer good information, a corollary is that whenever you don't volunteer information it must be bad news, which doesn't leave you much room to maneuver.
You must selectively disclose information if you want to play information politics, sometimes when it's good, sometimes when it's bad. Just keeping your mouth shut like in the OP isn't enough, you have to control the flow of information to others so as to increase other's perceptions of you. This advice is amateur tier tbh, although actively putting effort into trying to control the flow of information & perception of that information is borderline sociopathic.
Canadarm_Faps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is true for so many situations.
rossg876 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Admit Nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counter-Accusations.
JustInvoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds a lot like my ex-girlfriend.
ilike_tuhtles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a fun workplace mentality.
RussianTrumpOff2Jail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thats the job market we're in currently. Recruiters bending over backwards to get qualified candidates.
Sunryzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, everyone is in your same location with your same job market for your same industry. Genius insight. Please provide more helpful tips.
orionescens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wow thats so funny I was just thinking this today. I agreed with it so hard I added it to my personal tenets list. Jobs, friendships, family. The more I shut my fucking mouth the smoother everrrrrrything runs for me
And cops duh
jubbing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Bonus tip: don't fucking sleep through an interview
Swanlafitte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it ironic offering up information as LPT? Is that why this thread is full of people offering up information? does noboby head the advice?
pearsnic000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm currently struggling with this. Iโve been applying to dental school through a process ol that has taken the better part of a year. In the meantime, Iโve gotten married, and felt the financial need to get a better paying job to help support me and my new wife while she finishes up her education.
As a result, I accepted a job within the company I Id bee working for. This new gig paid much better, meaning my income would be enough to support the two of us while she completes her final year of school.
Of course, two days after I was offered/accepted the new job, I was also offered a seat in this next years dental school class, news I wasnโt necessarily expecting.
Iโve been trying to manage my guilt over accepting a job that I know I will be leaving after only 7 months. I know itโs what is right for my family, as we wouldnโt have been able to survive off the income of my old job alone. As such, Iโm just staying quiet about it at work... deciding that Iโll just do my best to contribute while I still can, and coming clean about my educational aspirations when the time is closer to me needing to leave. I wonโt lie if anyone asks me a straight up question, but I also wonโt divulge my future until I need to.
Comanche6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're a fucking loser.
Nakotadinzeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To go with this:
Never apologize unless you have actually wronged someone, thank them instead.
"Welcome to Reddit support, thanks for waiting. How can I help you" Is going to get a better response than "Welcome to Reddit support, Sorry for the wait. How can I help you?"
The first example makes them feel like you respect them, the second example assigns blame to you and gives them a reason to feel like they should be upset.
Now, if you (or something you represent, like your company) has wronged someone, or if someone is clearly wanting an apology, you can apologize. Never do it unprompted.
TAU_doesnt_equal_2PI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT
..he posts on the internet to be seen by millions of people.
Hope the people you're interviewing with don't see this, lol.
butdoesithavestars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Have more than you show, speak less than you know.
superfudging ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I often have to relearn this lesson over and over again. I am tempted to have it tattooed on my hand
jonnysteezz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone else see the irony in this post?
husbandisfat---lol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To shut oneโs mouth?
Mastertexan1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt use 7 words when 4 words will do
clairioed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Another interpretation: donโt offer excuses when apologizing. Often, it negates the apology. Unless they ask for an explanation.
Gongbanza4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Growing up in a rough area this the first thing you learn, and also to make sure you're always looking the other way
Blikemike88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What a bizarre, cynical and immature โtip.โ As someone who works for a large public company, if you canโt manage to keep your basic appointments, I canโt imagine what else youโll fuck up and you have no place on my team.
jenracee50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am learning as an Executive Assistant for more than 25 years the art of providing only the information that needs to be relayed. It's not about being deceptive...it's about providing only the information that needs to be relayed. Not perfect at this skill, but it's learned practice.
LovelyHatred93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've learned the hard way that excuses/extra information is useless to your employer. Be short and to the point. Apologize if needed and nothing more. Lol. They don't care why you did what you did. Just want to hear that you actually are sorry. That's it.
FowD9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As somebody that does interviews, excuses are annoying, a simple apology for being late is usually sufficient for me. However, not even acknowledging it is a huge red flag
ankhtaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pro Life Tip: don't be a jack knob and sleep thru your interview
hopsandhorns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I work as a sort of intermediary between auditors and companies. You have no idea how many companies get into deep shit because they replied to a question with more information than just the answer to it.
This helped me learn very valuable life lessons.
Imsoamerican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about other situations, but I literally just had a candidate miss their phone interview with me then respond later with a reply like that. It was very unprofessional and I didn't extend an invite to reschedule. I also had another candidate that missed their phone interview but called later expressing how sorry they were and gave a valid excuse. I understood and granted a reschedule. I can take a mistake over laziness any day.
itsanarmadillo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Literally this exact same thing happened to me this week. I was so embarrassed I didn't even reply and assumed they were done with me.
They replied and offered to reschedule for tomorrow. I'll take OPs advice and during the interview just apologize and be done with it
highxv0ltage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If that happened to me, I feel like I could definitely ask to reschedule, through voicemail. If someone actually answered, Iโd probably make all kinds of excuses. But this is good I do though. Thanks!
Serennadi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
OMG I missed an interview this morning as well and I was deviated. Luckily they were really cool about it because the time was given in eastern time and Iโm an hour behind and didnโt realize. I told them the truth but youโre not wrong either
dangshnizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5YqX0ewEnY
PJExpat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't agree more. So many times I've found myself in a good position because I kept my mouth shut
CreativeFraud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. I don't want this to get buried. I need serious help. Somebody that works in the Employee Engagement department sent me a survey to rate my Operations Manager. I've got some serious mixed feelings as she is not good at her job at all. She is gatekeeping important information and does not let others do their jobs :/ Reading this kinda helped me decide not to.
DeathFeind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do this when I'm late for work. Am I really late if no one knows about it? (I dont clock in)
Useless_Vladimir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never lie, but never volunteer to tell the truth.
WoodlandxWarrior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sound advice. I have a tendency to be brutally honest and this catches me in hot water quiet often. You don't have to say anything at all and it isn't considered lying.
i69edurmomlastnight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the Futurama where Leela tells Fry to stop his stories one sentence earlier
thelasthadoken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting tip. Did you ever stop to think what you would do if you weren't afraid?
Tinkletyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Brevity.
Tinkletyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Brevity.
thelasthadoken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting tip. Did you ever stop to think what you would do if you weren't afraid?
thelasthadoken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting tip. Did you ever stop to think what you would do if you weren't afraid?
cmern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In work, Iโve always relied on the โWAIT policyโ.
โWhy Am I Talking?โ
Thinking of the word WAIT makes me stop and think before I speak. Then I consider why I am going to say what Iโm about to say, and if it will make a difference or add value to the conversation. Itโs served me well so far.
kallipog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, sometimes you win the lottery. But actual open, real communication is often the thing you need. Be open, be real.
mateogg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever o think of my last interview I want to kill myself. I do not deserve de gift of speech. The world would be better off without me being able to speak. I would be better off without being able to speak.
But also fuck the whole hiring process and how they make you feel.
Nephroidofdoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is tagged Career and Work but equally valid if you ever get arrested or are accused of anything.
G2Seteria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is this an excerpt from sun-tzuโs the art of war?
bertiebees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When you get arrested you know two things. Nothing and nobody
ratusratus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Boss: "Can I ask you why isn't the report on my desk?"
Me: "No."
mwalexxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to me last week and didna similar thing, kept it short and brief and asked to reschedule. Worked out really well :)
roxzillaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice! I'm always being told I say too much. I needed to hear this.
Sunryzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Can we reschedule?"
Why would we reschedule when this person can't even offer a valid excuse why they missed it in the first place?
"No."
Wow excellent advice!
ancap17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I love practical applications of game theory like this
hclear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody speak, nobody get choked
Jwhitx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LAW 4.ย Always Say Less Than Necessary.
JeremyJ-32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This can backfire in a relationship
I_Luv_Barney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
yes spend your life being constantly nervous to speak your mind
MysteriousCry9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Real pro tip is Donโt make excuses. Own up to shit. Now if they ask why you fucked it, give an explanation, not an excuse
LittleWords_please ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't sound like a place you wanna work for though
PantyPixie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to me before!! I had an interview lined up one day that I got from a head hunter/employment agency. I had an exhausting day of travel and took a nap when I got home. I never nap bc I get my days all fd up and lose sense of time and place but alas I fell asleep mid day.
I woke up in panic mode and saw I had a missed call from the agency and thought I slept through the next morning, missed my interview and the agency was calling to scold me for missing the appointment they arranged!
I paced around and came up with a fiblet to tell them as my excuse and I called them but hung up immediately! I figured " let me check the voicemail they left me first".
Apparently the interview was (still) on for THE NEXT DAY as planned and this was just a courtesy call to remind me about it.
Phew!!!!!
lockmc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Totally agree. Everyone these days feels they need to justify everything. If I can't make an event, I just say I'm unavailable... No need to make up excuses.
zephy12321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You were incredibly lucky. You took the right approach but you got incredibly lucky.
4bit_9d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Its funny everyone here is sharing info about not sharing info. Fucking hypocrites.
slaymord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes very much agree, some people can be very frustrating
swill128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had to take this management class once. One credit, required to graduate, couldn't care less about it. One thing I took away though - everyone always has an excuse, it may even be a good one. It doesn't matter, your boss doesn't care what the excuse is. accept the consequences and move on
arsewarts1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Admit nothing, deny everything
lmmyers12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I had a full time at a factory with all the pay and benefits when I had every of intention of returning to school in a couple months. I told some about a month in, when they needed me and I had time to show someone else. I made it very clear when I had a month left that I was shown how to run a machine and no one else knows now because it's brand new. But there's only so much you can do.
JesusNotChristArt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me of this page from Amazing Spider-Man 530
ThePiePieper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Less is more, simple.
zachobsonlives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be brief, be polite, be vague. That is what I was taught at my previous job and it works. Volunteering more information than requested can be damaging.
RichardBreecher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I slept through my alarm once while I was in the Army. It was about a week after arriving at the regiment. I woke up to hear everyone coming back to the barracks after PT. As a stupid new-guy, I got dressed and ran into work and immediately found the Sargent to apologize for sleeping in. As it turns out, no one noticed. The corporal responsible for attendance said everyone was present. He ended up getting shit for not reporting me absent. We were both punished.
Frostfir3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Knowledge is power, guard it well
Left4br3ad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
plot twist, their other interviews went horrible and they were struggling for more meat to add to the grinder XD
TrollTeeth66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Johnny Tiplips agrees
lockedfrogwatercan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice! At first I thought the example was not great (coincidence computer system was acting up) but after thinking about it, it was a perfect example. If you offer up an excuse that the person doesnt find worthy, you are out immediately. Otherwise you could have a shot.
But maybe another LPT to ensure you do not sleep through this. I have slept through very bad things to sleep through but when I had an interview for a great job opportunity the day after I buried my mom, at 0600 too, I set like 10 alarms with different ringers. The interview went horribly, just as I anticipated so another LPT dont not do something because you know it will be bad. I had the most horrible interview I will probably have in my life under my belt now because of it. My most recent interview for the job that I love and have been at for 5 years, I was so much less nervous because I already had the most terrible interview in my life.
HW-BTW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never complain. Never explain.
Saul_T_Naughtz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Especially to cops, in any situation you even remotely, might become even just be a person of interest.
name, rank, serial number, comply and shut your mouth. A possible night in jail for being silent, is much better than risking anything more in the future if they want to try to charge you because you opened your mouth. Even if you did nothing.
Just saying.
BudoftheBeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm a mechanic. I had a customer that wanted to claim his repairs that were needed were related to an accident he was in. I knew that there was no way it was related but I had to show the insurance agent the damages anyways. I said nothing while I let the agent look at the car. Insurance paid for the whole $2000 bill.
For those curious, he has hit on his right rear bumper. And the repairs I did were some torn drive shaft and suspension bushings
jjoe808 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a pretty good tip. Also remember interviewers are people too. They get nervous and many times have not prepped as well as they should. This is why people who are good enough communicators to bail them out of awkward situations do well.
bethmrogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
any extra "explaining" sounds like you're making stuff up... be QUIET.
real_eparker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work at Google which has a notoriously long, difficult, and bureaucratic recruitment and interviewing process. At least twice when I was scheduled for phone interviews nobody picked up at the other end.
Every single time we give them the benefit of the doubt and tried to reschedule
U2EA0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Does this apply to counselling / therapy?
ih8everyth1ng ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A wise man once said. "Its better to keep mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open mouth and ruin all doubt."
Tdavis13245 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey this strategy worked for me once in a lucky exchange. LPT BROS #YOLO #LIVEYOURBESTLIFE.
a1b2c3d45ef6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
To steal my favorite joke from the internet:
Thereโs two rules for life; 1.) Never tell everything you know.
andrewta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In 3 hours this definitely blew up.
coolpumpkinseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most relevant thing I read today. I volunteered information out of good faith recently and it backfired on me.
perusingreddit2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My go-to email to my college professor when I was too hungover for class went something like this:
โProfessor,
I am unable to attend class today. I have made arrangements to get todayโs notes from a classmate. I look forward to seeing you in class next week.โ
Most of the time, they assumed something serious was going on. Lots of โI hope everything is okayโ and โlet me know if you need anythingโ type of responses.
Insteadofsleeping ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I prep my people for FDA audits.
Patanopsis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The devil is in the details
redGrassMoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, am I terrible at this.
moneymarkas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this video explains this well, https://youtu.be/kMfAwICiIzk
clrobertson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A couple of years back one of my work friends was getting married. Heโs a doctor, his fiancรฉ was a nurse. Anyway, my wife didnโt want to go to the ceremony, just the reception (free booze and all), and convinced me to skip, telling me that there will be so many people there and theyโll be so distracted they wonโt even know weโre missing.
So, we skip, and show up at the reception. First thing I do is walk up and congratulate them and say what a wonderful wedding ceremony it had been (lay it on realllll thick). Bride bursts into tears and runs away.
Turns out the groom was stuck in surgery and couldnโt make it to the church in time, so the ceremony never happened. He had just arrived at the reception a few minutes before me.
So, yeah, donโt say any more than you have to.
Gooberdidoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're looking for r/TIFI
Unoriginal_Trash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Now this is advice I can get behind
crack-wolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if you are taking to cops. Rule of thumb I learned the hard way so far in life, is shut the fuck up
blondechic212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They donโt ask, you donโt tell.
wasit-worthit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can attest to this information. I recently slept through a very important job interview. As soon as I woke up, I called and apologized and asked if we could still meet. They were happy to reschedule for later that same day. Of course, if they ask whats up, you shouldn't lie. A different time, I missed a meeting with potential roommates, for same reason. After meeting, they asked what happened, so I told them. I didn't end up getting that room. I did get the job though.
atters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you donโt, no one will.
SpecOpsAlpha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One of the fundamental tenets of President Trumpโs Art of the Deal.
yllwjacket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do not offer details unless it benefits you. 1920-2020 job advice.
chewymenstrualblood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
All defense lawyers -- past, present, and future -- agree.
LucidFir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Better to keep your mouth closed and have people wonder if you're an idiot than to open it and remove all doubt."
I'm being told that frequently. :/
Aegon-VII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So the person who sleeps through job interviews is handing out life lessons?
Upvotespoodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the extra details people add when theyโre nervous is kinda self-serving noise. Who enjoys sitting around listening to that?
Sti8man7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Honesty is its own reward" - David Letterman
nhphotog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also never tell an insurance company anything about any back aches etc. I learned this lesson when I was young. ( I was young and honest) Donโt be that person. They wouldnโt cover any back issues for 5 years or some b.s. Never tell anyone in the medical field that you smoke or were a former smoker cigarettes weed vape ... unless absolutely necessary.
Basically you donโt have to tell everything is a good rule of thumb. Also good advice for personal relationships. Keep some parts of your self to your self. Everyone needs a little mystery.
CC_Panadero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So I should offer minimal information and only after its requested, while buying an alarm clock. Got it!
jooshpak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for volunteering this information
petronski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Another LPT, sort of along the same lines: Never apologize. Instead, thank the person you would be apologizing to for their patience with you.
Instead of "I'm sorry I didn't XXX" say "Thank you for your patience while I worked on XXX".
Apologizing sends the message that you're bad. Thanking them for being patient sends the message that they're good.
Aoditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less
Smile more
Mopsydoll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I need to learn to stop oversharing but it's hard to bite my tongue and when I keep more to myself everyone thinks I'm being a bitch
Lotuscatfood09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Accidentally slept through it" = you're irresponsible, inconsiderate, and spoiled; someone who doesn't deserve consideration for ANY job. If you really wanted and NEEDED this job you would have made sure, 100% that you would be available for the interview. Even if it meant you had to stay up all night to avoid sleeping through it. IT WAS AN -OVER THE PHONE- INTERVIEW. YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE BED AND YOUR PAJAMAS FOR IT. Do you think a starving, suffering migrant who just crossed the border would have so easily neglected such a wonderful job opportunity? God it's so pathetic how you're bragging about weaseling out of your lazy mistake.
lupinemadness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is by far the best LPT I've seen in this sub.
Not only in business, but also in life, keeping you mouth shut works wonders. Yes, sometimes in the moment it has it's challenges and can be frustrating but, in the long run, it ALWAYS pays off.
jakethedumbmistake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Me spilling your popcorn, thatโs at
kadozen1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in law enforcement and I fully support this LPT
wizl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In mental health, we go by the minimum necessary rule. Do the job and give the minimum necessary information when dealing with anyones private information.
Don-Donson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โNever tell someone outside the family what youโre thinking.โ
biznessladybyday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm honestly impressed you could sleep through an interview.. I would wake up every hour in a panic checking the times and get no sleep. Sleep on!
dontFart_InSpaceSuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey OP, there are 2k responses so you wont see this, but dont' take the job. they are desperate. keep looking for a company with more going for it.
SeaBear393 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT- sleep in and make other people feel bad about it.
mrsocal12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This also works for being questioned by the police
PhantomHermitSam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, such an irresponsible, unemployed jackass telling others how to live. With such condescension, too!
azanzel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: donโt sleep through interviews
samsam2525 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve always been told three simple rules when you are encountered by someone asking about something bad you did.
docwyoming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Getting to the point is a secondary benefit. Remember that while this may be life and death to you that it may be trivial to the person you are talking to...
Jamaylay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My old manager taught me that. He always said โdonโt make excusesโ it took me awhile to understand that he meant, apologize and move forward. I still think of him telling me that when Iโm trying to come up with a million excuses until finally I just do what I know I need to do. Definitely has helped me think before I speak.
redielg1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly this is something I need to internalize.
ayy_the_dank_lord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is shit I live by.
RagnarNoDebt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Where's the entry level job at?
32BitWhore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't always apply though. If I know a particular thing about someone, say, like they stole something from me - if they don't come clean about it on their own and I have to call them out, they're probably never going to be forgiven regardless of what they stole. If they come to me and say "I took that thing," even if they don't have it anymore to give back, I at least respect the fact that they owned up to it and repairing the relationship is at least possible, assuming the behavior changes.
lsweetie7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay but also if youโre looking for a job and actually get an interview, donโt miss it. Especially by sleeping through it.
DrZ00lander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What if I got overpaid on my paycheck?
FlatRateForms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yโall are missing the most valuable sales lesson ever next to โhe who speaks first losesโ and that is:
KISS
keep it simple stupid
Kalkaline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I worked as a contractor for a hospital system in my area for 10 years. I left that job and worked for a different hospital system for 1 year, then got a job back with the old hospital system at their main hospital. When I went in to get my parking pass they noted that I had been with them for 11 years. Me being a dumbass corrected them and said I had worked a year with the other hospital system, so they gladly reset my parking privileges to a rookie level.
Paladin935 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less, smile more
Beeslikesteve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds of the west wing. Do you know the time?
Balsamiczebra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You donโt get a medal for volunteering information.
skanones209 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Fair to say you got pretty lucky here.
Holfysit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They already know you're trash. And it's entry level job. Congratulations you showed them.
JustR3boot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Life Pro Tip: be lazy and get extremely lucky.
Am I doing this right?
Belo83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This isnโt badddd advice, but LPT from someone who slept through a phone interview... and anecdotally had it work out?
frieswiddat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
reminds me of a saying my home ec teacher in middle school always said "you can always add more [ingredient] but you can never take it out
eyehate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This LPT above all others.
Volunteering information can be as innocent as explaining something at work to a paying customer. Volunteer more than they need to know and you are going to be explaining more than you might be comfortable or actually finding yourself in a position where you went from an authority figure to somebody that may not know enough to stay employed.
Volunteering information to law enforcement is triple double bad. They are not looking out for your best interests and it is not a cops job to adjudicate. Shut. The. Fuck. Up. You have the right to remain silent. Remember that.
Volunteering information that is not asked is just bad.
Buying a car? Answer only what you are asked. Interviewing for a job, don't answer questions they did not ask you - you might trip on your shoelaces.
Be selfish. Keep that shit to yourself.
anakarenace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is what Iโve learned to do calling out of work works wonders
Gooja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I do when I need to call out of work, so many people panic and try to think of what to say, how to say it, or make up excuses. Literally all I say is "Sorry but I won't be able to make it in tonight (or X date)" I've literally never been asked why or for any details at any of my jobs, although some may ask, most won't.
jakethedumbmistake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT" type outline.com/issues/
Voteforbernie.org
maxc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I take it one step further, I just lie.
calyco81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Right on, sound advise. Ever get this one? People chat you up and try to get buddy buddy with ya. They then steal your idea and take credit for it. This was the past, nowadays I am accustomed to only giving out 10% in general, I've seen this little dance before.
bobbyvale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Shit the fuck up! https://youtu.be/kMfAwICiIzk
2bb4llRG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No Hables mas de la cuenta y verรกs los cuarenta
asidowhatido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Usually if I interview people or talk to them cause they are late I go by a rule that simple answers are true,
Complex answers are usually a lie ...
asidowhatido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Usually if I interview people or talk to them cause they are late I go by a rule that simple answers are true,
Complex answers are usually a lie ...
Based_Ace357 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is my issue. Iโve caught myself a couple times saying unnecessary shit. Iโm going to take extra care in thinking what I have to say before I do.
Lickmychessticles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Frankly, I donโt think that people should take advice from a person who couldnโt even wake up for a job interview.
HRKJCK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Shooooot I learned this from my mom ... "Is there something you're forgetting to tell me?" Newp notta thing ...
jtl3000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This the best sayin out there
ricko_connor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Well I ainโt telling you nothing
seviay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is an A+ pro trip. Nailed it
onewildlife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve gotten out of tickets by answering โdo you know how fast you were going?โ With a simple yes. Nothing more. Then theyโll follow up with a โwell I clocked you going __โ. Just stare at them Then follow up with a โcan I see how you came to that number?โ Likely theyโll ask for clarification and I just bumble around with โcan I see the radar gun you used? Or whatever you used to determine that speed? Doesnโt sound quite rightโ I get a โSUREโ and theyโll go back to the car for a bit Donโt say anything while theyโre back there. No smirking or shit talking, just chill and be cool. They always come back with a warning whether it be verbal or written.
Chezzi_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No Hamilton references? Shame.
mvortex4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sound advice.
I have once slept through a final exam for a course that I had no lates or absences on. When I woke up and saw the time, I hurried to the college in hopes that they'd let me enter, but I was more than 30 mins late and that was the maximum amount for allowing anyone in.
I thought of all the excuses I would say to get to take the exam again, but after a long thought, I decided to just apologize and say that it was my fault. I got to take the exam again at the beginning of the next semester and passed it.
roaches85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sponsored by Saul Goodman
Chezzi_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โTalk less, smile moreโ
OhmItOut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice. Just let it happen bros! Thank you.
fortunate1-4ever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs POT BROTHERS AT LAW one MINUTE TIP of the day - YouTube
AkinyisDowry3000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My department was recently hiring. My supervisor had his mind set on one person that helped train all of us as we were gradually taking over new stations. This person couldn't wait just one more week before he asked for the offer letter to renegotiate with his current supervisor. It looked so bad we ended up not hiring him and all he had to do was keep his mouth shut.
lornofteup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think I remember a story about Thomas Jefferson about speaking little
A woman walked up to him, and as he was known not to speak much, she challenged him to not say more than two words, to which he promptly replied
โYou loseโ
surfmaths ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on the situation, but for job interview absolutely yes.
I had only one candidate that over-shared successfully, he was explaining in details what he was doing in his previous job without us asking for it, and it was great. But most of the time people end up saying something they believed was good but isn't impressive, or finding excuses, etc. Just be direct and strategic in your answers. It feel like you are the kind that gets things done and go straight to the point. Even if you feel you are hiding the truth.
That being said, once you are in the company it's better to be proactively giving information you believe will be useful to others. Unless you want to isolate yourself from interactions (if you can't meet your goals because of people interrupting you with questions).
chickenpow3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Okay sure. But get it together man. Be on time for an interview.
MarchRoyce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Of course. Learned this real young while being taught to be afraid of cops. My coworkers are always amazed when I call off work that I just...say I'm not coming in. No reasons given. It's like a magic trick to them. Feels obvious to me.
iflyfastjets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Silence is always an option.
creepyjake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
get used to awkward silence WITHOUT giving in to the urge to break the silence
mddetroit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt say blah, blah, blah when blah will do.
dubya06242019 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is good. Especially because Iโm getting the impression this did NOT come from a lawyer (who is trained in the โshut your mouthโ field).
Count_Von_Roo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
This took me such a long time to figure out. It comes with practice.
I recently had a coworker try and take a day off from work.. the morning of work..
First it was, "I didn't realize (carpool) is out of town today." (weird because they carpool together and even the rest of the office knew that person was gonna be out of town, and it was on the public online office calendar)
Then it was, "Oh, well, I thought I could work from home like (other coworker)" (who has kids and has been sick with the flu - and works in a completely different department)
So.. oh, you're sick? "No, not sick."
Ok, well. Do what you think is best.
"Well, I don't have a car today, and uber would cost me too much.."
....anyway, they showed up a couple hours later.. in their own car. Because now they felt guilted in to coming in.
Straight up, if they had just said "I'm going to be working from home today." they would have 100% been able to, no questions asked. But instead they passed the blame onto coworkers, painting themselves in a bad light.
hereforthehelpthanks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice for any situation unless youโre needing help. I was involved in a car accident and luckily my wife was recording the damage of the car right after when the other party admitted fault. After going back and forth with her insurance company, they asked for my insurance because she stated it was my fault. That all changed after sending in the video ๐
lastrideelhs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs like in a court case, answer the question that is asked. Nothing more.
They ask โdo you have the time?โ
Look at your watch and say โyesโ
vhdl23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is solid advice. This is something I struggle with early on in my career and I'm only now getting a grasp on it.
haggi585 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Recruiter here. If you need to reschedule due to oversleeping thatโs cool and totally understand. Most of us are busy and probably could use the break.
jayj59 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you followed rules 3 and 4. Be a desirable employee; don't be an undesirable employee. Congratulations!
_lord_of_thunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldnโt have written that
Bukdiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When in doubt, shut your mouth!
BadCryptoQuestions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a major LPT for AUDITS.
freshbeat64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Some people just donโt know how to shut up and own up to mistakes
outrunmyself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is 100% that old adage, less is more.
MBunnyX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hey thanks for this information. I missed an exam just few weeks ago and did exactly the opposite. I've said 2 lies to 2 supervisors in hopes of being allowed to sit. I wish I read this earlier... There was no need for me because the exam was rescheduled. Now I can't show my face in college without the lecturer giving me a hard look and pointing if I was the girl who showed up late.
brtomn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A devil never lies but doesn't tell the whole truth
Sum_Yung_Gy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is also a good tip if youโre in sales. Donโt lie, but answer the question and only the question.
matt20dion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Op: donโt offer up any extra information Also OP: reddit check out all this info about me that my future boss doesnโt know
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redditor_rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The bell rang and I came through the door late while my teacher was standing there and all I said was โIโm sorry Iโm lateโ then got to my seat. He replied saying he was thinking I was gonna make up an excuse and that wouldโve been annoying but for me not doing that, he wasnโt going to count me tardy.
I was using the restroom also. We only get 4 minutes to get to class and my last period coming to the current period took a full 3 minutes. Like gosh
stringsanbu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great tip, but I live off of people who don't follow this. My usual sales technique (B2B sales) involves just sitting in silence waiting for the other person to fill the "awkward" silence and volunteer info.
People feel the need to explain or just never have silence, and I love it.
im_not_your_uncle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best example is when police talk to you. Better just shut up.
Even if you just asked if you witnessed something. Just answer what has been asked and not more.
smitty9112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've gone this route before when a coworker did some questionable shit and I didn't come up front about it because it caused no harm in the end. When asked I did say something but I wound up losing my job for it still for not saying something up front and am making less than half what I used to now. All this in the midst of buying a house and dealing with health issues. I'm still not even close to recovering over a year later. Wish your advice had been applicable in my case.
LordSnarfington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds bad in the context I'm going to use it in but I assure you it's very normal.
I work in a field that is audited by the FDA and when those fuckers come in they KNOW everyone is a little nervous. We are always told to smile and say hello and then STFU. But when they find someone who looks nervous they pounce. They ask leading questions they will actually try to piss you off so you say something in anger. It's a skill when you're asked a yes or no question to actually answer only with a yes or no and not try to defend your answer.
Moral of the story, the more information you give the more chances you have to misspeak or mess up and have it used against you.
ekremhamid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There is one motto in life that I always go by. Always speak the truth but donโt speak every truth everywhere. Goes strongly to say that truth is a powerful tool that when wielded correctly can make or break it.
twelvegaugeeruption ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't give cops your phone!
funnytamilguy10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I tried this once. I went through a recruitment agency. The interview went well but didn't get offered a job, they're response was I showed up late and didn't acknowledge it.
tecampanero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
this goes for the police as well....
IronSnow4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly this applies to everything. I wonโt even give more details here.
emax4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
... Despite everything on LPT being volunteered information. Haha
OakenBones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this from Glengarry Glen Ross. โYou donโt open your mouth until you know what the score is.โ
alpha_order ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
OP, what did you apologize for? That you couldnโt make it to the interview?
PorcelainScrote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is great advice. Especially in this context.
AnyNamesLeftAnymore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever join the Army, don't ever tell anyone that you're good with computers.
Unless you want to spend 5 years doing every illiterate Staff Sergeant's work for them.
PooPooDooDoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I completely forgot about a phone interview and I just sort of casually answered the phone when they called. I was driving home from the gym and just said that a meeting I had ran late and I was heading home, would they mind calling me back in 10 minutes?
They didnโt mind at all, said we have all been there.
LifeSaTripp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is my aunt's LIFE. I can't stand it
Sengura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:40 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
AY, SORRY I MISSED THAT INTERVIEW BUT MY BABY MAMA WANTED ME TO GO OUT AND GET SOME DIAPIES FOR MY BABY MAMA KID, YOU KNOW. HAD TO DO IT TO EM, BRUH. YOU UNDERSTAND, RIGHT?
ANYWAY CUZ, LEMME GO AHEAD AND GET THAT RESCHEDULED INTERVIEW RIGHT QUICK.
X_L0NEW0LF_X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is great advice in the instances that it works.
caseyolney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the most common advice lawyers give to anyone sitting for a deposition. If the other lawyer asks you, โdo you know what time it is?โ Simply respond yes, as opposed to volunteering what time it is. Youโd be surprised how infrequently the right follow up question is ever asked.
zuzi325 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hopefully your applying to an IT position
thanksgive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard people say "They don't need the recipe".
courtnovo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just want to say I'm happy you got a second chance.
Seaguard5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That is a Great story!! Honestly I would probably have done what you were thinking before... man were you lucky though,
HAOHB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
God i hate just about everything about this.
BVB09_FL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is 1000% true and works in most areas of life including business. A major mentor of mine, former CEO of a several Fortune 100 companies, always told me two pieces of advice that he felt was the best advice he can give and secret to his success. He wasnโt smarter or more charming than most people, he just didnโt always feel the need to โyou donโt have to let people know how smart you areโ and โsay what you HAVE to, then shut upโ
Morphling11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I dont understand the meaning of Volunteer information... What is it?
xxvcd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And to add to this, stop apologizing. Especially you, women.
If you legitimately wrong someone, apologize to them individually and specifically, but donโt grovel and donโt carry on with it.
FogeyWan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My first and most important rule: it is always better to sit there and appear stupid, rather than opening your mouth and removing all doubt.
Explanations are just excuses with thought. The more you put in them, the more they smell like BS.
Just admit the TIFU, apologize and move on. And never, EVER, say it will not happen again. Youโre human, trust me at some point you will make another mistake. Pain is and always will be the best teacher, whether it be emotional, physical or whatever. You will learn that FAIL means First Attempt in Learning.
Callaghanman90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm just waiting for a mate"
kgxv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This tip is only applicable in this and a couple other situations (like when asked questions in court or by a police officer), but in many (if not most) situations itโs bad advice. Failing to display an ability to flesh out your answer to a question in a job interview will prevent you from being hired. Have anecdotes prepared for job interviews even if it doesnโt specifically answer the infect question, but helps illustrate or emphasize your answer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
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TomFoolhery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No one is perfect. Itโs a good lesson to learn from your mistakes.
SUBZEROWINS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Better Off Ted
Gemmay84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have gotten better at this. I usually want to be honest and actually give an explanation. In this scenario I might have kept it simple and not go on a ramble about stuff. But yesterday I was about to write an email and I stopped my self. Made it as simple as I could. And even then I felt I had to shorten my email even more. Iโm working on this/ long story short. I wonder if English being the second language for some people makes them want to over explain? Not sure if that makes sense. Iโm just not good at paraphrasing.
PublicWest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Speak less, smile more
Bazzy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The real LPT is in the title?
way2sick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What books can I read that have this type of knowledge?
patrioticmarsupial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As my father used to say when we would get ice cream before dinner, โYou canโt lie to your mom if she asks you, but donโt bring it upโ
ametalslimedrewnear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm late to the party here, but I agree with this information--especially if you have a narcissistic boss. One of my coworkers is in a position where he has some authority over me, and for years, I offered up information (especially my viewpoints). He would never observe how I worked, but he would write reviews based on my comments or his feelings. Now, I only offer viewpoints that I wish for him to hear or repeat. Another thing to consider is that coworkers are not your friends.
circusolayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt understand this apology. They said sorry I missed the call? I donโt understand how the lady could think that it was the computers fault and not the person who โmissedโ the call. Unless they literally just said โsorry can we rescheduleโ as soon as they connected, which at this point is already after the original call. Itโs a good tip though. The only other explanation I can think of is they thought they called them at the wrong time. But wouldnโt that information be written somewhere and make op look sneaky once rediscovered.
TakemySteak_MedWell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs a pro trick that interviewers and probably parents alike use, silence. When thereโs silence in a conversation, most people feel the urge to fill it, often with babbling. Donโt fall for it, itโs a power move.
dboo27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is super good advice that I needed to hear.... Er read.
AuntGentleman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve lost jobs because of this.
Donโt answer anything beyond the question asked. If you start going off on tangents itโll confuse the interviewer and make them think you have baggage. Only. Answer. The. Question.
Oden_son ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, get in the habit of checking your alarm before bed
MysteryChorizo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One day I will learn to STFU.
beerbeforebadgers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I've been trying to teach my girlfriend. Any time there's a need to convey critical information, she wraps it up in filler that only confuses everyone. Like, this one time she shoved a buttplug all the way in and it disappeared and instead of telling me right away she just kept describing how loose and hungry my butt is.
chapert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Completely different situation, but using that same logic, I kept myself out of jail once when I was much younger.
I was working retail and would give friends items for free when theyโd come to my register (stupid, I know). One day, I clock in and am asked to go to office for an annual evaluation. men in suits start asking me questions. All sounded good until it wasnโt. they tell me theyโve caught me on camera stealing. They said the names of friends who I gave the items to, and mentioned specific items I gave away. I was scared and dumb so I admitted to everything they brought up. They then told me that they know thereโs more, and that they have all the recorded evidence. They started asking me to admit what else it was. I couldnโt tell if they were lying or not, so I mention only 2 of multiple other items. They were happy with that, which lead me to believe they actually didnโt know what else I took. If they did, they wouldโve pressured me to keep talking, since it was A LOT MORE. the difference of what I admitted to, compared to what it really was, was misdemeanor vs. felony. So, because I didnโt volunteer more information, I kept myself out of worse trouble than I had already been in.
TLDR; got caught stealing, admitted to less theft than it actually was. Aka not volunteering all the information kept me out of worse trouble. Misdemeanor that couldโve been a felony.
PunchButterCut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Life tip from my pops: "Deny, deny, deny."
WolfSpirit84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad always tells me this. Also, never lie. Give the truth. Just be vague about it and allow people to draw their own conclusions.
grednforgesgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You got to know when to hold em
Know when to fold em
Know when to walk away
Know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin at the table
There'll be time enough for countin
When the dealin's done
Enlargedprostate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great tip!I never thought about it that way. I mean this. Thank you!
MRGLOBBOB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never lie ... witholding the truth thooooo. Yea.
Jason_Parick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of my worst problems, I say too much causing more problems, but sometimes when I say little it finishes the problems quickly, I see movies thinking "Dude, fucking say the reason then finish it" not knowing that it would make it worst. If theres a problem, think of a solution not a excuse or reasons
Ronald_Rump007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Oh definitely. I also play the stupid card too.
badhershey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think what you mean is LPT: Be lucky
This worked for you once. There are instances where someone was straightforward, honest, and proactive about a mistake that resulted in a positive way. This isn't a LPT, just an anecdote.
xubax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same for if you get pulled over.
I got pulled over a few months ago, and the cop asked if I knew why I got pulled over. I said I didn't (I assumed it was the expired inspection sticker).
Nope, I'd been speeding. Fortunately, my speeding distracted him from my expired inspection sticker and he just gave me a warning.
Thatdamnalex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One time my buddy got pulled over and I had weed in my pocket. This was in a small town in Arizona. The cop was basically harassing my terrified friend so I was literally 2 seconds from exclaiming I had weed just so I might get off easier when he inevitably searches us and the car. A few minutes later he let us go. I wholeheartedly agree with this
Bdk48126 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a recruiter, this is actually decent advice. You would get a strike against you in my mind, but I would be willing to reschedule. Itโs life, shit happens, if I blew off everyone that had missed a phone interview, I would have missed out on quite a few good candidates over the years. An apology without an excuse is better than telling me you overslept. Just be on point moving forward in the hiring process.
artboi88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am of this mindset. On my older work place we would be so tired from non stop refreshes on events to set up and mistakes happened quite frequently due to ahor staff. One of my coworkers couldnt shut the Fuck with over explaining his short comings in a project, it was drustrating as this usually involved me too. Just apologize and move on, anything else and you dont give them room to speculate.
pm-me-your-covfefes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โNever miss an opportunity to keep your mouth shut.โ was the wisest piece of advice I ever received from any boss.
And it has definitely saved me a trillion times!
Al123397 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But where I'm confused it what you apologized for? "Did you say hey I'm sorry can you reschedule the call?" That would imply it's your fault
I think even just apologizing is volunteering information.
Also they could have very easily been like we want timely people and don't want people to miss their interviews.
In general I think your advise is good but it doesn't make sense in your context
sadsaddie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Recently leaned something similar with my front door. Use to be compelled to open the door every time I heard the bell or knocking. Now unless Iโm expecting someone or something I donโt open for shit. If itโs management or maintenance they got a key go find it.
UnblendedFuchs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you.
HighRyder18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wow... Searching for jobs now. This seems like the right information to be received at just the right time...
HowlingBanshee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I live in MN and just finished 2 brutal prep days in an east coast state with our lawyers out there because the company suing us is east coast based. I might have to testify next week. My boss has been neck deep in this for over 2 years and the frustration of seeing a slime ball lawyer working for a slime ball company (who was caught red handed WHILE IN COURT deleting evidence from from their website...judge fined them but kept it going) has been driving him insane. Our lawyers canโt believe how trusting weโve been with someone we hired under contract that lives there. The prep questions volleyed at me terrified me but I appreciated them. But man, my nature to want to feel guilty over these tough questions and try to explain myself is a tough nut to crack. And when I read this post, it sounded a lot like the advice from our lawyers. Keep your answers to slime ball lawyers short (mouth shut), tell the truth confidentially and donโt volunteer information! Gave me more confidence to hear this. Wish me luck!!! And f these east coast (Iโd name the state and company if I could) asshats.
A_Stoic_Dude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A coworker today jokingly admitted that the $5 million expansion that we were starting up, and that is already 3 months late, will be another 3-5 weeks behind schedule because he forgot to get a permit taken care of. The whole project is now done and we can't start it because of some paperwork. The worst part is that it was never his job to get the permit done in the first place. He just got it done because the PM dropped the ball over and over and over. It was the PM's fault 100%. But my coworker just got nervous around nicely dressed site visitors or something and threw himself under a bus. God it was so awful and then to say that to a bunch of company directors that you barely know. I was just dumbfounded.
Sure10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Batsman isn't good enough to keep you safe
Pleezhalpp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lpt: donโt give life pro tips when you simply got lucky at your own mistake.
LoreleiOpine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's great advice for helping lazy and less-qualified people get ahead in life...?
MisterMoet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learn to be ok with people not knowing your side of the story
DarkTower19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is generally good advice but I'm calling bullshit a bit on your example. I interview people all the time and if someone misses an interview without a believable explanation you either don't get rescheduled or you're skating uphill from there at best. Granted making up a lie isn't really better so you were kind of stuck.
1615311520191144 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You never open your mouth til you know what the shot is.
ethessing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just had a phone interview two days ago that I thought was my best interview yet (Iโm so bad at interviewing, trying to work on it) but got an email not even 24 hours later that said they were going ahead with another candidate :/
therespectablejc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
DirtinEvE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It literally can apply to almost anything in life in some way. Like that girl over there at the bar? Go say hi. Maybe how's it going. Don't be a dick but don't be overly nice. Don't tell them you play escape from tarkov 12 hours a day right off the bat.
LookAtTheModel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah lying by omission. Clearly good advice.
Xanderfuler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is also a LPT for calling off. Keep it short and sweet, don't need to have an excuse.
ericmruiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never give a reason for doing something. In time, you might think of a better reason. One of my favorite William T. Sherman quote.
Justinv4578 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Words of advice that was given to me many years ago.
Stop digging the hole and drop the shovel.
Learned to keep my mouth shut from then on.
gdbjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do not recall and I would like to speak with my attorney.
Never say anything but those words.
jemidiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a professor, I feel this. I've posted my personal, unpolished lecture notes before, written in my own pidgin format. I put a disclaimer on them saying they were written for me and not students and I was only posting them because it was requested. Course evals come back, and of course some people complain that the lecture notes weren't polished. Now I simply don't post my lecture notes. No complaints on course evals, problem solved.
Similarly, I've tried fighting high average exam grade culture by being very upfront about my exam philosophy and explaining why I strongly believe lower exam averages are objectively better. One of the main reasons is that it's easier to curve to make final score distributions similar to historical distributions. What happens? I get murdered on course evals--everyone says the class is harder than other instructors' versions while acknowledging that it's curved. This despite me explicitly saying final scores will be the same, so it's not "harder" in any practical sense, and statistically I give very slightly above-average grades. It's better if I don't call attention to the issue at all.
Frankly, tons of undergrads are idiots. Just look at their exam grades....
McFreedomWithCheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If somebody asks you what you ate do you throw up the entire contents of your stomach on to the floor to show them? No! Thatโs disgusting. They didnโt ask for that and didnโt need to see it. You just say โcheeseburger.โ And you move on with your day.
beskartuxedo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I tell this to my clients all the time and six different ways to Sunday and somehow one of them always spews once theyโre under oath. Not always damaging stuff, but just offering extra detail, yapping on and on and getting too comfortable with opposing counsel.
DivvyDivet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is great advice that took me way to long to learn. Knowledge is power. Don't give it away for free. Also don't talk to police. And the first call is to your lawyer.
Euphorix126 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Please PLEASE watch this very educational video
https://youtu.be/7XeJJtgbm2s
Sproketz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do this if I have to leave work early as well. I just say "I have to step out early today." I don't say why. Saying why implies that justification is needed, or that it might not be good enough based on your excuse.
FTGKelvin0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People will believe you are telling the truth the less you talk. And most of the time that is true.
potatodrinker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never split the difference (book) goes into the details about this tactic, vs blabbing to fill in silence. Great read or audiobook listen for those interested
Wasaka1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thought this was about police
dethblud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Never explain yourself. Your friends donโt need it and your enemies wonโt believe it."
โ Ziad K. Abdelnour
cwisteen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Theyโre volunteer jobs. Iโll riot
likeaschoolgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Love. This. I have worked for years on not sending 3-paragraph apologies littered with personal details to professors and bosses. Still working on it. Thank you for this, A+ reminder!
bleedblue89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I work in compliance and security and I learned this early... answer the auditors question and never provide any information unless they ask...
KChasthebestBBQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt ask, donโt tell
tigression ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Loose lips sink ships.
dogsblood88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The amount of bullshit I would've avoided in life too now if i had understood this earlier... Great advice.
jaulin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Knowledge is power. Hide it well."
emerywowo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I totally agree. However, if you ARE called out, the BEST thing you can do is own up to it. Do NOT make excuses. Your higher ups will (usually) respect that you are big enough to take responsibility.
MENTALIS7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I second this had a whole line of excuses for a uturn ticket that cause some idiot to side swipe me *he was suppose to yield to me went to court. Ticket dismissed because cop showed up after incident and other party didnโt show up.
couey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why do some people seem to get away with everything? Because their lawyers tell them to shut the fuck up
FetalDeviation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: Listen to me, I'm unemployed and sleep through job interviews!
gimpers420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So they are a Canadian firm eh?
CoalMinersWife69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And never rat on your friends
tallspaces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This same thing happened to me last week, slept through very prominent interview with a high profile employer, said the exact same sentence in an email, and within 30 mins they were apologetic. I could have sworn I missed out on something big, but all in all, they offered me a position
anjan18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Who even gave that bot an award for its comment
Vote4Javier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My wife has the problem of giving a front back and middle story, I always remind her details just muddy the waters.
Archangel_TS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the Game of Thrones, you either win or you die.
LetsNotQuestion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This whole post is so circumstantial it isnt even funny. Humans can be so fickle it amazes me.
Wildcard__7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It worked once for me when I missed a connection on a flight. I had a three hour layover and decided to sit in an area that was a little less crowded than my actual gate. Didn't realize until after the plane took off that the clock on my laptop was wrong. I went to customer service, told them I missed my connection with no further explanation, asked if they had any later flights, and fifteen minutes later I was on my way.
grateparm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the business world it is better to ask for forgiveness than permission
Pheobe228 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thats awesome kudos to you!
justfriendshappens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Doubly so when talking to the police.
MoscowMitchMcKiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As an attorney, that's what I advise to my clients before a deposition. Only answer the question asked. In fact, sometimes I use the uncomfortable silence in a depo to keep silent until the despondent starts unnecessarily speaking and saying things to explain the,selves in order to fill the silence.
There is a famous law school example. Look at the question first, try to answer, and then read the answer.
Question "Do you know what time it is?"
wrong answer: "I'm not sure, I think it's about 2:30, let me check. Oh, it's 2:45."
right answer: "No." (Or "yes," whichever is the truth)
zackthehorrible ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Isnโt that one of the 48 laws of power
MissionComplete5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Hamilton (well Aaron Burr) said it best..
Talk less, smile more
un-natural ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the same vein, HR is not your friend, it has the company's back not yours. CYA (cover your ass)
BeachCruiserLR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's a great YouTube video of a defense attorney speaking at Regent University about why you should never talk to police. Well worth the watch.
I_NEED_APP_IDEAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Related: if you need to tell someone no, say no, and donโt offer excuses.
chowychow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In some companies - interviewing is a process. They're brought in to do a job and leave. So you're right - don't volunteer information, but at the same time realize that you are taking advantage of a system.
capnvontrappswhistle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The question, โdo you know what time it is?โ is a yes or no answer, not the time.
Sabbathius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I find it a little weird, maybe it's being a foreigner, but I don't get why people call it an "excuse" if I explain something.
When I was younger, I was late for work, because my subway train was stuck between stations for half an hour due to an emergency. So when I showed up, all I said was "Subway was stuck for half an hour." And my boss barked that she didn't care about my excuses. At which point I got a little pissy also and said it wasn't an excuse, and that I don't control the traffic in the city. She let it go, and I lasted almost another year on the job, but it still irks me to this day.
Like, I want you to know I didn't just decide to walk in half an hour later than I should have. But at the same time, it's not an excuse, I was providing relevant data. Would it have been better to just walk in and pretend nothing happened and I wasn't late? What's the protocol here?
And it's not like this even mattered at that job, because we had punch cards, and the machine routinely robbed us. Like, if you punch in at 08:01, it'll say you punched in at 08:15, because it only did 15 min increments. But at the end of the day if you punched out at 17:59, it would say you punched out at 17:45. So they routinely tried to steal half an hour of labour, per person, per day. Of course we all got savvy quickly and if we missed the punch-in we would just chill in the break room for 10 mins rather than work for free, but bosses would attempt to chew us out for that also. What a shithole that was.
ReesesManiac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
On the contrary, once I missed an interview call because I was on vacation, and forgot about the time difference.
I called the interviewer back and explained my situation. They were impressed I was willing to interview on vacation, and voiced their appreciation for my honesty. They then encouraged me to postpone the interview until I was back. I postponed it a week, and I ended up getting a job offer from them after that interview!
Robu_Rucchi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was trying to get an old clash of clans account back, so I messaged support and told them my brother wanted his old account back to make it more believable. They told me to have my brother contact them. Problem is I donโt have a brother and itโs done through the app so I canโt contact them as my โbrotherโ
Neemus_Zero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
my old man was a military guy and he imparted many important bits of advice (but also served as a poor role model in many ways); one rule he taught me that I have lived by ever since is:
Treat all information as need-to-know; IOW, never share anything with anyone unless they need to have that info. if they don't need it, you're over sharing.
nxksksnjwwn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is really only something a white man could get away with.
IANALbutIAMAcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happened to me earlier this week, but Iโd actually just been really nervous and procrastinated too long so that I missed a deadline for a video interview.
After sitting at my laptop for half an hour typing and retyping an email to the company, rephrasing how Iโd explain away my laziness, I decided fuck it and just sent a brief email apologizing and asking if they could reopen the web portal. Within a business day, theyโd responded and reopened the portal.
This is a big company too. I really didnโt think theyโd give me another shot. But, less was definitely more here, I think.
WhoAllIll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There are two rules to follow in order to be success in business:
superspud0408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Another LPT... wake up to your alarm when you have an important interview...
Kehaar_rah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Give every man thy ear but few thy mouth.
j3434 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Especially with the cops . If you get pulled over and they say have you been drinking you just say no officer. Donโt explain where you were going while you were there what you had and didnโt have and what for when
carissalynp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have to provide info to auditors as part of my job. Trust that this is drilled into us!
Ben716 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Never say what you can nod.
never nod what you you can grunt,
and never, ever, put anything in an email."
AManIsBusy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's like some people never grew up with parents or teachers... sheesh
agiatezza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs almost always better to say less, in just about any situation
seditious3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a criminal defense lawyer. I should print this on my business cards.
Aristotle_Wasp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know what time it is?
Half past 4
I need you to get out of the habit of doing that.
Doing what?
Answering more than what's asked.
So, do you know what time it is?
Yes.
turtleheadmaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think all these comments are stupid. If you share more, then they'll see who you are. It's almost like you're interviewing them. If they still like you, then it will be a healthy relationship.
If you're desperate for a job, then take the advice. However, I'd expect problems later.
cwisteen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sheโll be damned if you don't nut
lemonloaff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who hires people for a living, just fucking call.
Call if you are going to miss the interview or be late. I donโt care what the excuse is, just call. If you donโt call, you donโt get a second chance, period. If you call and do exactly this, just say โhey sorry I missed the interview something came upโ is more than enough. You will get re-scheduled by anyone who works in my office.
The same goes once you get the job. If you are late, sick, slept in, drunk, flat tire, car trouble, kids held you up, I donโt care just pick up the phone and call, apologize, and tell your supervisor when you will be in. 95% of the time you donโt need an excuse, your boss and coworkers just want to know if they need to cover, hire someone else, whatever. JUST CALL.
...and donโt make a habit of it.
Chivio_Yshtar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never complain, never explain.
uvaspina1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know why the Democratic Party (or George Soros or any other wealthy donor) doesnโt offer to indemnify (I.e., pay off the contractual penalties for) the women for speaking out.
Want2BeCanadian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
.....what?
uvaspina1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Whoops. Somehow I posted to the wrong thread! My comment was in regard to a different post about Bloomberg not releasing former employees from their non-disclosure agreements
Want2BeCanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That makes much more sense! Haha
RobertdBanks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My fucking coworker, every time something comes up or we just slack somewhat will start pouring excuses onto our boss when he hasnโt even asked what happened. Iโve wanted to tell him so many times โdude shut the fuck up, the number one thing that makes people look like their full of shit is when they start making elaborate excuses and giving reasons when no one even askedโ.
Crxtals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Who the fuck gave the auto mod an award?
gammon68 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Works when talking to the police
bertropolis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In the same respect, there are times to get something in writing and times to discuss in person.
redditshy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have to agree, and I am in a position to hire people.
Before I was in this position, I was answering a phone, and a person on the line was calling to say he missed his interview, and wanted to reschedule. The powers that be were very strict, and would normally never agree to a reschedule. I said to them, listen, I talked to this guy, and he sounds really good. You should really give him another chance. He called with confidence, and his personality shone through. He did get a second chance, and was hired, and was a great asset, and is currently a great friend.
Being direct and confident goes a long long way. It is instinctual. It says to your instincts, "if shit goes down, this person will be an asset, rather than a liability." This instinct is why people often respond better to confident but scummy people than they do to well-meaning but insecure and nervous people who can't make a decision. Our instincts want to know who is going to lead, and who is going to get us all eaten, when shit gets real.
SenorCate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Amen. Professional life pro tips.
GeneraLeeStoned ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if you have to call out... it's none of your works business why you're calling out.
"Hi, sorry I have to call out for today"
thats IT
lars1619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The best advice I ever got about teaching is to keep your mouth shut at meetings.
FatBASStard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Advice to live by!
Our unit is audited by the feds quarterly. Our boss volunteers information and data to the auditors without the feds even asking for it in an attempt to selfishly look good and constantly seek praise. โLook at what I can do!โ type mentality. โLove me!โ
We have to tell him all the fucking time to STFU because now they will come to expect it and the support staff have to do extra work now. Itโs really driving morale into the shitter.
perturbaitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
also known as overselling
MOF1fan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When people offer up unnecessary information to me when making an excuse it always just assume they are lying to me
Holeymoleybrother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I showed up over an hour late to the second interview for my current job because I was on 3rd shift trying to adjust to not being on 3rd, I apologized and said sorry I thought I was early the temp agency must have misdirected one of us, the interviewer then went on about how much he hates them and I got hired straight on without the temp agency. Absolute win.
Teapot_Dragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This all the way. Having a bitch of a time mastering this. Been burned.
IAMA_REDNECK_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If there is one thing the military ever taught me, donโt EVER volunteer for anything! Donโt volunteer information, donโt volunteer your time, donโt volunteer you strength, etc. Flying under the radar is the best way to live life.
ObiWanKaStoneMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And now those people know, you with you 60.7K upvotes. Well played.
yummynothing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Was this company Doordash because I had exactly the same experience?
T1_Thotseize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My mom always told me to never give an excuse unless asked. People donโt care. They just want a promise that youโll do better next time.
Surfperch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never apologize, never explain
mvs2527 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you get jammed up don't mention my name-Jezzy
shiroh7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There's a great Spartan Laconic phrase for introverts that I've found is good to throw out at parties or gatherings when you don't feel like talking much;
"He who speaks, knows when."
doritohairfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Lot word bad few word good
Artifycial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had an interview for a scholarship at 8am on a Friday morning. I slept straight through just forgetting about it and woke up at 9. I saw they sent an email apologizing for missing the interview as they didnโt arrive until 8:17, after it would have been over. I met them later that day and they thanked me for adjusting my schedule. The power of not admitting things freely is strong sometimes!
EdofBorg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This advice works with every facet of life you can possibly think of except talking to your doctor.
detrimental2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What if job embraces the talkactive personality.
turbotoast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What is your current salary?
Do they really expect people to answer this?
partofabigsoul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is so important. Most of our issues in life are due to our own fat mouths
kubilayt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This actually saved my job, and probably my whole future yesterday. I made a huge mistake at work, and I was making up excuses in my mind on my way to my supervisor.
When I stepped into his room, I forgot every single thing I thought of, probably because of stress and anxiety. When my supervisor saw me in his room, he was like what are you doing here, you should be at home resting (I had finished a 24 hour duty the day before) and I was like, "Yes, sir I just dropped by if you had anything to say before I leave."
Later, I learned that he (my manager) never learned what had happened, as my supervisors (sub-managers? I don't know, English is my 2nd lang) solved the problem on their own because they were going to be fucked as well, if it was heard by our manager. God bless them.
ALWAYS wait for the story from other side first, boys. LITERALLY ALWAYS.
GroundhogExpert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially true when it comes to police interrogations. Whether you're innocent or guilty, your best course of action is to simply say you want your lawyer present for all and any police questioning.
TjTwinkle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is also true when dealing with the police. Shut the fuck up.
nenoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Knowledge is power. Hide it well. --Blood Ravens, militant artifact hoarders.
zerowastejourney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma has a saying that I think explains this really well. โAlways tell the truth but donโt always be telling itโ
CorporalSpoon31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
100% correct, thanks man, I gotta save this post for future reference
Genji_main420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People at work are always saying why they'll be out tomorrow or the next day and I always think about how it's sufficient just to say they'll be out.
JediGodA3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Works with cops too. Just shut the fuck up and get a lawyer even if you're completely innocent, don't ever trust them.... NEVER.
darby-dev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Now i get it now, shut happens.
Gamecocks91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, talk as little as possible in an interview, let the interviewer do the talkings
miamojef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad says "some things stay between you and God, keep it that way" yes hes italian
isuckatmusictheory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think communication is better. This sounds like a bad habit.
GourmetGardener ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent advice to keep in mind after you've got the job, too.
Iamaredditlady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Further addition: Be responsible and set your alarm correctly.
Herdrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Please do in an emergency
NeuronGalaxy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are we going to turn in our homework doe?
YanDan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never talk to the Police. Got it ๐
idle_voluptuary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The best advice ever given.
SloRed33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Senate Confirmation Mode.
LordranMelonFarmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Keep it short. People love to pretend they are brilliant little movie main characters who can pick out a tiny detail, spin it out to some crazy conclusion and somehow magically be right.
dorgislord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If thereโs one thing the military has taught me, itโs this. This and donโt ask too many questions, honestly. Sometimes you end up with answers that really just cause you more work.
MeganGrace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah this!!!! I slept in for my final interview, but it was an extra interview theyโd asked if I could do last minute right around Christmas so when I called my recruiter whoโd gotten me in with the company, she just called no fuss and asked if they could move it back two hours and of course there was no issue! My recruiter said more often than not people are very accepting of โhuman problemsโ that can get in the way of scheduling but as long as itโs communicated most people will have no problem. Iโve been at the job for a month and itโs been fantastic!
sweetmojaveraiin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was recently pulled over by a cop late at night, thought for sure it was because I was using my phone while driving. One hundred percent sure that's why I was stopped. He comes up to the window and asks do you know why I pulled you over? I said no I'm not sure. And he gave me three (!) reasons, all minor traffic violations none of which included being on my phone. Ended up not getting a ticket in the end either. And yes I suck for being on my phone
DaemonKrog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is really good advice. It kind of goes along with the don't talk to police (if you're being investigated, arrested, etc) advice. In the miranda rights it clearly states that "...anything you say can and WILL be held AGAINST you in a court of law...". Literally anything you say to an officer can and will be used against you and nothing you say can be used to help you in court.
HaggardDad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the better LPT I've seen lately. A LOT of people get this wrong and cause themselves a lot of grief.
Bazzy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The real LPT is in the chimney again."
dydodiem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I say take this even further in most instances and donโt apologize unless you actually did something really wrong. Rephrase it so youโre not inviting blame, โUnfortunately Iโm going to be late/not going to be able to make it/we were unable to connect on the phone/etc.โ
winchestertonfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If an officer stops you:
Why are you stopping me.
If the officer continues to ask you questions:
I am not discussing my day.
If he continues to berate you:
Am I being detained or am I free to go.
If detained:
I invoke the fifth.
Then shut the fuck up. They can't prove what you are doing.
noahsilv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is literally terrible advice
lithium142 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is something Iโve gotten pretty good at with written communication, but somehow still suck balls at face to face. I think itโs an adhd thing.
Domebeers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
youre breaking your own rule
reddiefor_it14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My sister worked as a dispatcher and she taught me if you have to call 911, to only answer the questions they ask. Donโt just rattle off information because they have to enter information into the computer so when I was in a car accident and called 911 I knew to tell them what happened and wait until they asked for further information then told me what to do. So in conclusion; never volunteer information!
Sigma35361 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Got any guns in the car?
Nah, it's at home with the dope!
R.I.P. Robin Harris
PonderWhoIAm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also to note: Don't always have an excuse for everything. Lol It gets tiring hearing BS excuses. At some point we all know whose at fault.
HZCH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I did that dor my last interview, except I knew the school I was applying for had screwed up badly the interview schedule. Got the job.
jellochrist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I never tell anyone why I'm late to anything. People just think I am doing really important stuff. It adds to my mythology.
bengal1492 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And when asked a sensitive question, answer the damn question. Do not answer the question you think they should have asked and do not add details without request.
lrac3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't offer up excuses. No one gives a shit
DrFordsHippocampus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially useful with police involvement. The police aren't your friend, their job is to get as much evidence AGAINST you as they can. Don't make their job easier.
UserNameTag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same if you ever get audited at your job. Only answer the auditors question, short and precisely.
sMilv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do this already ๐คทโโ๏ธ
VDGOD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this after high school. I realized the less you say the less people will talk about you in a bad way. For example, I donโt talk about my job aside from giving them a general idea, money, personal/family problems, and I donโt even to vent to people. I only give people what they need nothing more.
Reason I donโt share too much about my life to other people because they talk. They will talk and talk and all of sudden everyone knows you and your problems and they all want to help. Not only that but they are judging you too. I hate talking to people and trying to get a nice first impression only to know that he/she knows about me already from other.
By no means Iโm telling people to hide your life but to understand that words travel.
qwertyconsciousness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In short: don't lie, and don't self-incriminate
decrypt512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell you how far this exact advice got. Made very little friends from work, especially did not meet make friends with managers. Took me far in one career but I realized I kind of needed to hobnob with the managers to get further.
Edit: This was my first big boy job with a corporation. Started when I was 21, lasted 9 years.
H8ersgivemeSTR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This advice probably is most true for when you're talking to the police.
SWAGOSAURUS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is very good advice!
Another advice is to not give any information about past work experiences or company information even when asked at a job interview.
I was once interviewed for a position at a grocery store when I was 18 years old, and the interviewer asked me if my old workplace did alright in spite of being placed in the outskirts of time. I happily answered and didn't think twice about the information I spilled all over the table.
I did not get the job, and the interviewer told me that it was mainly because I did not think about what company information is ok to forward to competitors and hiring me could potentially hurt the particular store.
So remember to ask yourself if you have any knowledge about an organisation which is sensitive to that organisation, and if it should be kept to yourself during a job interview!
RobotCaptainEngage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much."
-John Wayne, probably.
kkris23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Was gonna be late due to traffic in my last interview, where the owner of company was coming, they said they appreciated it and where able to schedule more work instead of just waiting, for the job!
WannabeeReefRunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The people in the comments are volunteering a ton of information. Listen to OP dammit!
Mr_Bankey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My opinion is
FedsPeople are like mushrooms- feed em shit and keep em in the darkbohenian12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
i also dont make excuses for being late, just a text that. "hey ill be late" then a "thank you for waiting" the moment i come in never fails
general_sirhc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had an interview years ago. Forgot about it, called up and apologised saying I had forgot. Reception told me the manager would call me back.... if they remembered.
The subtle burn had me laughing after the call. I met the person who got the job a few months later, turns out it was a miserable position. So I accidentally dodged a bullet and learned a lesson about saying too much.
hellohouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like in poker, keep checking until you have to fold. Donโt fold when nothing is being bet.
eeggrroojj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"I don't know nothin'." -Joey Diaz
truth-reconciliation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Works great with my wife!
Grxnty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a killer tip for negotiating, let the other person speak and speak and speak
7g7g7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Had who? This is solid LPT.
Bow4864 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh so you're the type that leaves folks hanging for phone screens and relies on recruiting to assume responsibility.
planet_oregon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Truth. Learned this while living in a dangerous rural part of the world. Lots of bandits and criminals that would rob/kidnap. My friend, an ex local militia, told me more or less the same advice. Now that I live back in the states and am working, i try to practice it on the regular. Different stakes then someone ransoming you for sure, but information is power.
Also never put anything in email that you never want as public record!
arkencode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they donโt really care about the excuses and would have felt uncomfortable listening to them.
Seoirse82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Say nathin till you hear more.
King0Horse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant: https://youtu.be/JTurSi0LhJs
ninjacatmom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice! This will get you far in life!
LoveLife96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Love it. Great example. Thank you ๐
acuseme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How to be like Donald Trump...
gimmeallthelasagna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This was the greatest advice ever.
timetopunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No one ever gets rewarded for falling on their sword
Sevnfold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A couple years ago I found a good deal on a good car for my step daughter. An older couple was selling it for $2500. After I drove it and said I liked it the husband was eager to sell. The wife was not. Long story short I offered an extra $100 for it.
It was a nice car for about 6 months until the battery caught fire and insurance totalled the car out.
I dont miss the $100 but I was trying to be nice and accommodating or whatever. If I kept my mouth shut I'm certain the husband would have sold me the car for $2500.
EatShitKindStranger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: Be a responsible adult and wake up before you have an important appointment.
_Floydian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wisdom is not knowing to where/when/what to speak.
Wisdom lies in knowing where/when/what NOT to speak.
PremiumOxygen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good grief... An actual useful LPT?!
Aniso3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
well plus if you start making a bunch of excuses it sounds bad, i agree, what you did was the best thing
Engorged_Vesicle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A closed mouth gathers no foot.
MyCodeNameIsBryan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Don't fill dead air. If you need to say something, say it, and wait until they talk.
I know many people who love to listen to people babble.
One boss told me after a rather embarassing display by an anxious employee that "it was amazing what he learned if he just let people talk uninterrupted."
pickleweedinlet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt complain, Donโt explain. Words to live by.
hunterofspace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
From working in a call centre, i learned pretty quickly that if someone is mad, and you then give them proof that your company was in the wrong, they can get even more mad.
Best to just shut the fuck up.
BreatheYouFckr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Let us know how it goes at your new MLM!
Coink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The lpt applies double when talking to the police
senbetsu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Of she has a history of being obsessive or overall a bitch then by all mrans set boundaries. If you read this subreddit a lot maybe you're being a tad paranoid. That being said, my mom always asked for permission prior to touching my wife's belly.
PhoenixHavoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Alright Burr. talk less, smile more it is.
nakedsexypoohbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This just seems unethical.
exsea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm this is solid advice, the caveat is that when it comes to friends, try not to do this unless you dont want to share too much private info
if you cant make it to an event they invited, you sure as hell don't need to give a full blown excuse. you don't need to give a long tale but SOME info could be nice and imply a little sincerity.
No I can't. - Shit are you a robot? Do you have no time for your friend? Is your "friend only worth a yes/no answer?
No I can't, i ll be out of town/ I have something else on during that time. - Perfect, concise with minimal excuse to why and if the person is curious they may feel free to ask for more info.
No I can't, I have a dentist appointment/ I need to pick up my kids/etc - IMHO if it's a close friend and you don't mind giving more info, shoot for the moon. it furthers any conversation you may have and strengthen the bond. not necessary but always appreciated. as long as you're telling the truth else look at the "perfect" response
Thied ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, you were just lucky. Lucky people make mistakes and still get through. And you checked that box.
You still have a point though. In an interview, you still should not volunteer information. Don't tell them what you've done before if it is not relevant.
admin-eat-my-shit13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
no need to load the gun they will use to shoot you.
FatRainbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't call me kid, punk
0xb00b1e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mom via by phone: what did you eat today? Me: Food. Mom: what kind of food? Me: the kind you eat.
mfw she doesnโt know Iโm a cannibal.
Totale-Substanz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually terrible advice.
It's okay in your context, because a job interview already is a terrible situation in which everyone lies to get what they want, but it's certainly not generally applicable to the way you should communicate.
CleverReversal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I find "ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies" sometimes sort of applies in cases in the ballpark of this.
But it might be even more "If you're wrong and no one notices, there's no need to advertise it." (If nothing is going to explode from your wrongness.)
bigcat93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was offered this advice in the past year and I swear, what a difference it has made
HiSuSure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Go volunteer in a nursing home.
RitsuFromDC- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta love encouraging dishonesty - and getting upvoted for it.
Getthehelloffme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great tip.
Freak_on_Fire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're the master of what you think, and a slave of what you say.
BottledWater90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same applies to work. Unless someone ask you about something or the information you know is vitally important just stay quiet. 9/10 you end up volunteering yourself for something you didn't want to have to deal with. Long term you do this enough and people come and ask you about random stuff about the business you have no involvement in and act disappointed when you can't give them answers.
BrainGrahanam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So much this! The more information you offer, the worse the situation. Never ever give excuses, just be matter-of-fact. Speaking with 20+ years of experience, this is so important.
SonOfSkywalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Very true. Never give up any additional information unless you absolutely have to.
jadedQuail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not tryna be confrontational here or anything, but I am fairly certain that a lot of big companies would know when their interview should have been and would not appreciate such a curt excuse.
ronin4052 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gtfoh your meeting wasn't important
Sirico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A good rule I take away from how to make friends and influence people is let people talk and come to their conclusions.
Just had a job interview where I just confirmed things and asked them questions.
candiice_xo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly why my husband doesnโt let me talk when filing our taxes. I always offer up way too much unnecessary information.
Prob_Pooping ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sleeps through interview. Calls us kids. Psssht!
ZippZappZippty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You could still shut up...?
spankydeluxe69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It took me years to learn this. Very true.
Best_Toe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But wouldn't it be considered rude? or what if they ask why you missed it?
Dave_Rules ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/video/u8wxiadk8cf41
FascinatedQuestioner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Loose lips sink ships.
dicorci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
STFU & get it in writing.
That's my 5 second lfe advice to anyone who asks.
db19bob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is one I know I should do, but oh for the life of me I canโt
BeardyBadger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learning this on this new job I am currently at. My supervisor is a great dude, but I can tell he wants me to add less details to the way I explain to him what I am doing or when I need help. He flat out asked me once "Hey, how are you getting on, I don't need the details, just a general idea." So I started being careful about this and it makes everything so much easier!
Black_Strobe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Modus operandi for politicinas right there.
Tinnis_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
Talk less. Smile more.
Gr1mPulse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโll just drop this here.
I HIGHLY suggest everyone in the USA watches!
airbrat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One life lesson that I hold dearly is K.I.S.S.
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
Kroxicon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I never understood why the fuck i had to offer an excuse to my teacher for coming in late to class, i apologized but giving an explanation for my tardiness ? fuck that.
Ski_cracker21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You volunteered this information
harrismi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs not what you say, itโs what you donโt say. This motto has saved me a lot.
jmanpc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Last night, following a series of unreasonable demands from her boss, my wife was venting to her mother over dinner.
Her mother took it upon herself to contact her boss talking shit about how unreasonable the demands were, without saying a word to my wife. This morning, my wife was contacted by her boss asking about why her mom decided to butt in.
My wife was beyond mortified and asked her mother what the actual fuck she was thinking. Her mom tried to play it off like she was doing the right thing. My wife had none of it and told her mom it was a colossal breach of trust, and that she has no option but to withhold any further details of her professional life.
To clarify why my mother in law would dare to pull such a supremely stupid move, my wife is the director of a church preschool, and as a member of the church, my MiL felt entitled to voice her opinion.
I said all that to say this... When in doubt, SHUT THE FUCK UP.
SaintPaterson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I literally apologised to my boss today saying โsorry I was lateโ and they were like โyou were late? So was iโ - couldโve gotten an extra 1/4 an hour pay :(
Euonymusamericanus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Starting to learn this one now that Iโve started as a hostess at a new restaurant. Iโm naturally really honest, so I instinctually try to tell customers whatโs actually happening instead of just only telling them what I need to. Figured out real quick that โyouโre up next!โ works a lot better than โoh, well you werenโt here, so I had to skip youโ
mvillearock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Late for a meeting? Donโt say โIโm sorry for being lateโ โ thatโs negative. Say โI appreciate you waiting for meโ โ thatโs positive.
demagogueffxiv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is probably my greatest weakness, I'm too honest. One time I talked myself into a higher insurance rate because i admitted to a work accident
silverfang17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
People should do this when communicating something. Be concise. Don't add unnecessary information. And be done with it ASAP.
I always do this on my job since it needs communication with different level of management and many different people.
fuber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also LPT: Don't sleep through phone interviews if you're trying to get a job
negative-creep- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My father has a saying that I've stuck with.
"Sometimes it's okay to just shut the fuck up"
Arobain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You've become the very thing you swore to destroy
BaffleTheRaffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When in doubt,
https://youtu.be/JTurSi0LhJs
hokuten04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always tell this to my work mates "less is more" whenever they're sending out an email.
idiotcrosswalk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Senior year AP Lit I just blanked on a big important essay. Forgot it existed. It was due Friday night and I remembered it on damn Monday morning in class.
I spent three minutes agonizing over excuses. Then I walked up to the teacher and said, โI forgot about the assignment. Anything I can do?โ
Without batting an eye she allowed me to turn it in that night.
MyDopeUsrrName ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
With my luck they'd say "You mean reschedule the one you just missed? Sorry but we already moved on." But, but, but....
deelyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a developer I hate this mentality with passion. Fucking assholes.
Cynik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learning this lesson was like discovering fire for the first time. It changed my professional life dramatically.
kittycronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I did the same thing. It was more of a misunderstanding. I thought she was going to call me, she thought I was going to call her. At the end of the day she texted me and asked if I was still interested. I was a little confused and wanted to apologize for not calling because I assumed she'd call me and I would completely understand if she wasn't interested. But I didn't do that. I simply asked if she still wanted an interview. She apologized and said it was a busy day and she missed my call and was SO THANKFUL that I was understanding. I called her the next day and she hired me.
duckduck60053 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am a god at giving too much information. When I was buying my first car my best friend went with me. After about 10 minutes he was completely bent over with his hands on the back of his neck just shaking his head before saying "dude... just shut the fuck up..."
refrained ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I used this sort of tip last week when I wanted to take a personal day at work. I started to give all this information about why, then stopped, deleted, and just asked for the day off. Only give the information that's required!
LokiBalboa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The more you think about it the better this LPT gets. Thanks!
Blendin_haymaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't say shit to the police
CiernyBocian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just wondering what that one sentence you used was.
Goliath_Gamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is what a lawyer says, too.
fish___taco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Now THIS is a pro tip. Iโm an architecture student, and at the end of the semester we have our final review where we pin our work up to show a jury comprised of faculty and other architects. And I shit you not kids would present and then admit that they didnโt have all of their work pinned up, they would be like โoh I didnโt have time to finishโ or โI have that drawing I just couldnโt get to printโ and it baffled me why they throw themselves under the bus like that. And even some of the jury would reply with โeven if you donโt have it all donโt tell us, because we donโt know the better, and it makes you look badโ.
PreetyKeety420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Now you understand the Art of the Deal
HungryAxolotl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always liked the saying: you are the master of the words you haven't said yet but the slave of the ones you already said
TheFoxtrotIndiaLTH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never miss an opportunity to say nothing.
Voldernort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Talk less. Smile more."
DeDuniel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iยดm pretty sure thereยดs an "Art of War" quote about information that would be really fitting here.
Darphon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You can never un-say something.
1Many ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learned this the hard way.
Sirspiderhands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm trying to help you, mother fucker!
Reafth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Depends, I had a boss once who demanded an excuse for everything. He said I don't care if it's true or not, just don't say sorry as you come up as being unreliable and unrelatable. I think you give a little and try to read from their response on how the convo should progress.
pje1128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less. Smile more. Don't let them know what you're against or what you're for.
Colin_Bowell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is also good advice when you're pulled over by the cops. Answer basic questions that won't incriminate you. Don't offer up information about anything that would help them. Help yourself and keep your mouth shut.
OllieReal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Many times I've regretted saying something, but never once not saying something
fat_mummy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a teacher. I regularly say to kids if theyโre in trouble, even if they want to argue, saying sorry and shutting up will probably mean the teacher wonโt escalate anything
jachumbert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never smarten up a chump and. never give a sucker an even break... W. C. Fields
brad_900 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You say it best, when you say nothing at all
- Ronan Keating
indigo_fish_sticks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna go against the grain a bit and say you got lucky. I work in HR and I wouldnโt typically reschedule an interview unless the applicant had a valid reason for not showing up, or answering if it was a phone interview, especially if they donโt let me know beforehand they canโt make it.
An unethical life tip though, would be to just say something along the lines of having a family emergency, being apologetic, and asking to reschedule. Most employers will be sympathetic for a reason like this and wonโt inquire any further to try to be sensitive.
kjubus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad calls it "You're an adult now, you're not in school anymore. You do not have to explain yourself to everyone".
whydoikeepcounting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother used to always say, โNever complain, never explain.โ Solid advice that has served me well.
AnxietyReality ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am an over information giver. My wife has to constantly remind me.
It is hard I'm too honest.
GenitalTso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think better advice would be โSET YOUR FUCKING ALARMS KIDS. AND MULTIPLE BACKUPS!!โ
0sheikh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โNever rat on your friend and always keep your mouth shutโ - Goodfellas
squigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, people are generally more receptive to "what can I do to fix this" rather than "this is who's to blame". Even better is if you have offer a solution (in this case the rather simple one of rescheduling).
Personally I'm pretty forgiving if people say "I messed up"
fowler1_3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What would your excuse have been had they asked why you werenโt able to make it? Did you have one just in case?
matlab191 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to my wife
sl600rt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always rotate reasons for lateness, even if your always late for the same reason. Things out of your direct control work better than things in your direct control. So you appear to learn from and correct personal errors, but just unlucky and unprepared for unexpected events.
ssshghg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ู ู ุชุงุฒ ุฌุฏุง ุงูุถู ูุตูุญุฉ very good
Keyann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially relevant in the US when encountering the police. Exercise your Miranda rights and don't talk, let your counsel do the talking on your behalf.
seggyyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was living in Japan for a year. Early on I didn't have many friends.
So, one day I was on bumble (dating app) and met this girl who seemed really into me. We decided to plan a date to meet.
She lived a little put of town so she scheduled a time to come into the city on a weekend. That same weekend one of my friends told me about a trail running event he was going to and many people would be attending. It was the perfect opportunity to make friends. I really wanted to go.
Instead of using this LPT, I decided to tell the girk the whole situation and she immediately became disinterested in me.
We ended up talking later on and she told me if I just asked to reschedule it would've been fine. But, because I gave the reason it immediately showed that that was more important than meeting her.
This LPT would've helped me then ๐.
compoface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. I'm a nurse and am always told how calm and reassuring I am because I take this approach, even when I'm a hot mess inside.
albot225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Real gโs move in silence like lasagna.
TurdFurgeson18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad always told me (a very talkative child who thought i was brilliant even though i was not) โwhen you find yourself in a hole, stop diggingโ.
Which can be expanded to, โonly dig if you call your local utilities company can ask about sewer/power linesโ
Betchphase ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is solid advice.
I have a hard time taking this advice. This can literally be about anything. If theres a potential conflict to be had, offer and involve yourself as little as possible. Everyone will use it against you, no matter how well you've scratched their back, how kind you are, how helpful you are - if you offer up to much info, people will use it against you somehow, and you wont know how until they do it.
Black_Magic_M-66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even if this never happened this way, you shouldn't pad your explanation with excuses anyway because that's what they sound like: excuses. Really, we've heard it all, and are tired of hearing it, it's in the past, it can't be changed. Just move forward.
boobiesiheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Answer the question presented.
As a former auditor, we loved talkers. And hated them...as it often widened the scope of our audit, but that's the job.
Just answer the question presented.
Ruraraid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Just goes to show that the K.I.S.S. motto always applies and that is Keep It Simple Stupid.
pricklypineappledick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What exactly was the discourse?
nuclear_wizard_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a similar interview story to this one:
Went in for a round of individual interviews then one big group one with a presentation on some software I'd be selling for this job. Most went fine, but for some reason the marketing guy didn't like me. He went as far as telling me about 5 minutes after I walked into his office that he didn't see a reason to hire me.
Fast forward to the group interview and again this guy is trying to nitpick every response I give and was just generally being an ass. Nobody seemed to take much stock in this because they continued on and said I was a strong candidate. The presentation was about how easy it was to model industrial parts with this software, and I just used some plunger valve I had made during college as an example. Marketing guy was pretty quiet throughout the presentation likely because he knew next to nothing about the product itself and saw that him bashing me in front of the room wasn't having its intended effect. Anyways, I leave the interview with a good feeling about the job but they want me to come back when the president was back from a vacation for a follow-up.
I go back in a couple of weeks later, and the president and I do a one on one interview which goes okay but not great. He insisted we do the group interview/presentation again, so we get everything ready but for some reason someone throws out there that we should pretend that I'm trying to pitch the software to them as some other company. As we role play this pitch/presentation I ask what their company's most sold product was and someone says they make those little roller things that extend from 18 wheeler trailers to unload packages. While I shake off the feeling of being on Whose Line, marketing guy seized on this and just keeps hammering me with questions about why they (as this fictional company) need this software when the product is already made. He finally gets so into his act that he claims it was idiotic of me to even show up to this presentation without a model of their product ("forgetting" that there's no way I could have known what that product was before this meeting...). The president even catches onto this, and also starts questioning why I wouldn't bring a model of something similar to their product to this "sales meeting." Since he wasn't at the first group presentation, I think he assumed this was something already discussed and that I should have been more prepared. I just try to keep professional and say that this is something that we can easily mock up for the company but I don't have anything like that right now. As the president "breaks character" to tell me that this is unacceptable, several folks point out to him that this scenario was ad-libbed and there was no way I could have known what the product was before the meeting. I got to sit back and watch that marketing guy get ripped a new one by the president for practically screeching at me "in character" during the presentation. Me and the guy who would have been my manager had a great talk about the importance of keeping your mouth shut afterwards and basked in the sweet justice meted out that day.
Crimie1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes the instinct to say nothing can save us
boiwutrthos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yet I don't know anything about that.โ
thomas____________ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Kids? Condescending much?
Flowdeeps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
PS Don't talk to cops
DifficultTackle6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing to have and using that little knowledge can backfire for times more than it could play as an assault. So chose words carefully and make an informed decision to how to present with the information and knowledge. More the Knowledge, more the odds to fuck ups.
Bazzy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The real LPT is in the news.
Stjimmy950 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This.
I work in Customer Service and I used to get into awkward situations where I'd be having an extended conversation with a customer. Usually it went like: they ask for something that's out of the ordinary or something I wasnt comfortable with, I'd spend 20mins trying to explain why we couldn't do what they wanted while they'd throw out every excuse they could think of.
Now it's just like "Nah, we dont do that. These are your options" or "Policy is policy bro". Usually they just go "Oh, ok" and proceed to order like a normal human being
leetz0rR_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Are you certain your new bosses arent on reddit or why are you volunteering information?
xylont ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Nice not say many things
natie29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I didnโt lie. I just didnโt tell you.
PM_ME_GAY_WEREWOLVES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That being said, the most annoying thing in any movie or TV show is when characters don't share important information with one another.
So if any fictional characters are reading this, please just tell your husband/wife/family member/friend about the crazy stuff that has been happening to you so that they can stop you from being a dumb dumb for the sake of the plot.
QiyanuReeves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
sounds like a coincidence here that they didnt show up at the same time. happens a lot, this is no way due to you being some kind of master of espionage.
Keno112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the best advices I have seen on this sub.
gottkonig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:41:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the good old deposition advice. When someone asks if you know what time it is, don't answer with the time because that's not what you've been asked. If you know the time, your answer is simple: yes.
thescrapplekid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Especially when it comes to cops. Whether you're innocent or not
Shadowkabs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Especially when you can get to problems this advice is very helpful
Atheist_Utopia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always say less than necessary.
-Law 4
Psychotisis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I live by this. The silent man has the greatest knowledge.
Yardash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Better to remain silent and thought the fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt
BrutalBob1384 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Loose lips sink ships
paloumbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When you are invited to an appointment, never speak first, even if offered to. The other party is the one which wanted to see you, they have to speak first.
Tanduvanwinkle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You're hopeless and don't deserve the job.
HrabiaVulpes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's psychological and very effective on our current generations.
Imagine you were always called the best, the greatest, the special snowflake. Everything went easy, everyone wanted you to succeed. Everyone listened to your complains. But deep down you knew you are a piece of shit. Facebook, Twitter and other social media showed you just how happier and more successful others are than you. You don't want to show it, so you wear your mask and demand world treats you like a special snowflake still.
And then someone doesn't. One person who gives you short, precise answer instead pampering you with nice small-talk before it. You freak out. No one was angry at you before. You don't know how an angry person even looks outside movies and cartoons. Was it something you said? Was it something you did? Your paranoia kicks in. That someone must be important. You don't know who he really is, who he knows. You didn't care before, closed in your own world. You are scared, you are not used to fucking up, every your mistake was accepted and softened by others.
Humans feel vulnerable and insecure when there is silence during discussion, when someone looks them directly in the eyes, when someone acts differently from the group, when they don't know something they perceive important. They panic, lash out or desperately try to fix situation. And being aware of it rarely makes you immune to this.
Sorry for the long comment.
BombBombBombBombBomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ive made mistakes at my job and ive always replied with "yes. Thats a mistake and i can do better"
No reason to apoligize and make up some weird story. Mistakes happen, and learning from them is better than lame stories
lawrencedRepublican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Listen listen levels of learning to behave in order to be able to make these moves in a forward direction in order to distance myself from the past desicions I have let my mouth step in because of not listening in how behave myself,
MarkusPhi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think because of volunteering information I didnt hear back from my last 2 interviews. Really gotta be careful about my mouth as I am a really talkative person.
JollyBroom4694 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The old adage of โdonโt answer a question you havenโt been askedโ.
Neikius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also very true in regards to helicopter/overbearing parents :)
SGz_Eliminated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Suddenly a lot less helpful in the context of a police investigation or medical emergency
ComradeSuperman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut."
Nettie67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You are correct. In the past I would feel guilty for cancelling or postponing appointments and would go on and on about the reason(s). These days I simply call and state that I need to cancel/postpone, with no explanation.
uncognitto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
was born in last days of Soviet Union --- this is not a LPT, it's reality.
justcatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
what???? What happened???? Can someone explain????
OfGodlikeProwess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I realised in first year of 6th form that if I offered my teacher an excuse, she would dissect it, so like you I stopped - we don't owe people our life stories because of a mild inconvenience
letsgetthingsgay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always volunteer info. Been learning to stop that habit for long time.
unlikedemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It works in other ways. Sadly I learned this later in life. If you get invited somewhere you don't want to go or get asked to do something, just say 'sorry, i can't make it." or "sorry, i can't right now". That's all.
softhackle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If someone had an interview scheduled with me and they didn't offer an understandable reason for missing it there's no way I'd reschedule it. Running late is one thing, but missing it entirely? That's a big ole' red flag for me.
Sagelegend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
One time I was supposed to pick up my wife from work, but was really into this part of a video game, and I realised I was going to be like a half hour late. I drove over ready to offer apologies and excuses, only to see she wasnโt where we normally meet.
About a minute later she rushes out quickly apologising for making me wait, and going on about how there was some mix up with the shifts, and she had to stay on until another person could relieve her.
I quietly nodded and assured her it was fine, these things happened, and I drove her home. She doesnโt know to this day.
LightsOut5774 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wait so what did you tell them exactly? โSorry I missed it, can we reschedule?โ?
W4r6060 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:21:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is true even when lieing.
Don't add too much infos, focus on proper delivery.
lofi_addict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is also true when talking to authorities!
cjbeames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always be closing and never open your mouth untill you know what the sell is.
Ohio4455 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: Donโt miss interviews because youโre sleepy-weepy and donโt want to wakey wakey.
Painterly_Princess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I need this tattooed on my brain
jakethedumbmistake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT" type outline.com/p/BbdXQXvgj6j/
@look_its_sadie/
gehsty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Better to have them just think your an idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt!
LutherJustice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or better advice: be disciplined and keep your scheduled appointments and donโt rely on an incompetent third party to get you out of trouble every time.
simat8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
1000% this applies to EVERYTHING. Forgot I'm on Reddit, so disclaimer lol: dont apply this to EVERYTHING
๐คฃ
Kerfilicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:39:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I find it respectful when I am allowed to decide if I want to know or not. So good on ya for respecting their time!
JOHNLUCKPICKERDD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:39:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Perception is more important than reality. If someone perceives something to be true, it is more important than if it is in fact true. This doesn't mean you should be duplicitous or deceitful, but don't go out of your way to correct a false assumption if it plays to your advantage.
โIvanka Trump, believe it or not. Very similar idea. Donโt go out of your way to allow peopleโs perception of you to reflect reality, unless itโs YOUR reality.
bigwilly311 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I applied to a grad school cohort through my school district and misread the due date so it was a day late. I didnโt mention it, just submitted it like everything was good.
Didnโt get in.
MSO4_IVP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing when calling in sick. Just say you're sick. Most people really don't need or want details.
And when they ask you to work on a day off or when a co-worker asks you to work for them or trade a day. Just consider, is this a yes or no question, then answer yes or no. Then s t o p t a l k i n g
Optimassacre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you're going to miss work, just say that. They legally can't ask you why.
HiSuExorcist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Shoot him in his blabber mouth!
Kuronan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"'Tis better to be thought of as a Fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
Good job holding off OP, hope the interview goes well.
mtilhan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Serious question.
I try to abide by this tip generally, but I am a talkative person, so I am only following 50-50 probably.
If I start to follow this by heart, wouldn't everyone around me become more suspicious? Like, if I am gonna be late I generally say the reason to my team leader at work etc., if I just say I will be late, wouldn't that seem more suspicious?
DanialE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta add to this story. My friend and I was studying but we arent from Europe. He has a girlfriend there and wanted to stay a bit longer. He was planning to have a short holiday in Dublin just when his student visa expires then go back to the UK on visitor visa, then somewhere else to visit his brother, then back home. Problem, he has no fight tickets to prove this (plans to leave the UK for good)
And the worst part is, he incriminated himself by just admitting to the customs that he is visiting Ireland to reenter the UK on visitor visa. He got deported, and I wandered Dublin alone like some lost kid with no friends. We hanged out over a burger to chat about the great (mis)adventure we had. Dude has been through a lot lol
maurizze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:59:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to an apprenticeship interview when I was like 17, took the bus there for the first time. The bus with the same number drives two different ways, of course I took the wrong direction and found out about 20 min in. Called and said I took the wrong bus and will be late, got there an hour late. After all I still got the job.
SatisfyingDoorstep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I think that story says a lot about the firm you interviewed for aswell.
ilivedownyourroad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is true in some cases but also very cynical. I prefer a world where you can volunteer and still be ok...though increasingly that's not the case. Also they already have all our information despite what we give them lol
JohnTheBaptiste1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best LPT I've seen in a while. I was an hour late to my interview for my current job, walked in, sat down, nobody asked why I was late until after the interview and they offered me the job a few days later. It's what you don't do that speaks for who you really are.
fishsticks77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't sleep through interviews, kids.
Wonderfur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Semi-learned this advice the hard way...for some reason, still learning it. 100% honesty in life rarely does you any good on a societal level. Stick to your morals and what feels right, but donโt martyr yourself for them.
I have spoken.
Cedarini ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"LPT: keep your mouth shut, you might end helping someone."
North_Shock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happened to me. I missed the first interview call from my current employer which I realized 3 hours later because I was playing Kerbal Space Program. Next morning, I gave them a call and the HR eventually called me back and I missed the call never even came up after like the initial greetings.
time_is_galleons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This LPT is my number one rule when Iโm telling people โnoโ for something. Rather than saying โIโm sick, Iโve got something else on...Im so busy... โ, just say โIโm sorry, I canโt do xโ. Most people donโt actually go looking for a reason, but we often have a tendency to try and come up with excuses. If they ask, you can offer one, but I donโt often find people asking why.
Furifufu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is such a stonks moment
ohno2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Even more important to remember when faced with dealing with the cops. Do not talk to police....
theb777man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So true! The less you say the more people can interpret it one way or another. Chances are, they will not imediatly assume the worst.
stratint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If they ask me what's the reason, do I still tell them or try to divert?
Luke_Tahoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Me: Reading comments of people volunteering information
Inner thought: "Pff, Amateurs"
TheBlackGuard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Talk less. Smile more."
Luke_Tahoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that this is such good advice is reinforced by the amount of comments this post has.
Almost no one can actually follow this advice
raycharles55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Less talk less mistakes
henkelmatthew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes the hardest thing to do. Great advice.
feeryigit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thats a dope experience
TheHancock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also 100% applies to Police too!
uUpSpEeRrNcAaMsEe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Something, something ...Get pulled over by cop... Something, something...
papawam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This thread is about being late and not offering up free information. So here's my relatable story. In high School my girlfriends time of the month was late, (scared shitless) being kids we instantly were sick worrying. I OFFERED UP INFORMATION to my parents about it. All because I jumped the gun thinking this was it. This was the end of my life, I figured my dumb ass got my girlfriend pregnant and I was gonna be a teenage daddy that was still being raised myself. My parents freaked out, my girlfriends parents freaked out and made her take a pregnancy test. Needless to say, false alarm. Incriminating information ALL FOR NOTHING. I was banned from her, she was banned from me. Felt. Like. An. Idiot.
ToxicChronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same goes when talking to cops!!
DancingWithMyshelf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also known as the "snitches get stitches" defense.
midg23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've started to employ a similar philosophy while on the phone. When you get the answer you're looking for - stop talking - there's no need to give more information after the fact.
hldsnfrgr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just say I was on an errand. Is that wrong?
twotall88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Why you should never talk to a cop lol
The_zen_viking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Went to sales training for a new job and essentially they said "get comfortable stating the facts/prices and sitting in complete silence for 20 seconds"
I take it as a personal challenge but I've started noticing how uncomfortable people get in silence and start offering information or nonsense talking. With continued silence you can see it physically build. It's amazing
NkosiKwesi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also works great when talking to the cops.
HellGuardian_MJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You have the right to remain silent, anything you say could and will be used against you
CalangoJango ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the times, in the movies, the villain is defeated because of some information he has volunteered.
Shacrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When I asked my introverted girlfriend about a text I wrote, she said that I could leave out a lot of things. That day I realised how powerful it can be to say less. Now I'm always conscious of it.
ProtegeMikey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The best advice I ever got was donโt say a fucking word to the cops.
UnicornMolestor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is my biggest flaw.. i get nervous if there's silence and just keep talking. I've learned to control it by being an asshole no one wants to talk to
aaron2724 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
thats not really the case, I work in a recruitment agency and if a shit candidate didnt answer the phone and not give an excuse i wouldnt ring him back. Not to flatter you but you are obviously a strong candidate and they will not care if you miss a phonecall if they want you that bad. You'd be surprised the somersaults companies do to get their man
5evrblond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a great teacher in my industry who stressed NMOTSU , it was always written on the board in his room. Never Miss an Opportunity To Shut Up
ViciousP85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This same is true for email. It got so bad at my work that they had a required class on communication.
pomorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same with calling into work...
โHi, Iโm sorry but I canโt make it in today.โ
... usually works like a charm.
Riael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
+1 to that.
Asked a so called friend to go out for a few drinks to which they replied "Sorry but no. I'm short on cash", after I offered to pay they were "No no sorry there's this thing that just came up and" which... yeah, my ass.
Healthforme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I love this advice. I need to start doing this, I always feel like I need to explain myself but its usually not necessary
graphitezor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is great information. You have no idea what the receiving end of thinking or going through that may be particular to your situation.
Pwatapous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:11:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
KISS - Keep it simple, stupid.
Buckminister21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:11:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Like what my Momma always say, "Less is more!".
sirsaltalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got a speeding ticket a few months ago and bought new insurance a week ago. The look of horror on my face yesterday when I realized that the ticket was 1 in my brothers name as it was his car, and 2 two provinces over, Was pure shock. Telling a broker I had a ticket was the dumbest thing I have done probably.
cheeseburgess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is genuinely useful advice, well done
SirFroggyKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This happened at a job I was working at.
I was secretly sleeping with/dating a coworker at the time (stupid, trust me, I know) and my boss came up to me one day and said "hey, I want to talk to you about something. I know what's been going on." Right as I was on the verge of selling myself out, he shared with me something completely unrelated and menial relating to work.
If he had hesitated a second longer I would have fully blown our cover, assuming he had known.
TheStant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less. Smile more.
sirgames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
that is a very good nibble of advice
themeatstaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
For real. Got an email for an audition, told me to reply within 2 days, I didn't reply till like 4 days after only saying "wait I replied to this already right?" He responded, "maybe, my logins acting weird and not emailing correctly, but I have you in now". But you're right, keep it short and quick they'll take care of the rest.
Spaceman_Beard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
TLDR: don't be a snitch?
Sprinklypoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This really depends on the situation.
ItzLegDay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Illusion 100 Speech 100
Titanscape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Late to the party but I wanted to share. Over the weekend one of my employees was 4 hours late. When I asked them about it this week they replied โwell... I had gone out drinking the night before and I didnโt think that I had that much but that and how late we were out made it really hard to get up.โ A sorry and a it wonโt happen again would have sufficed.
crann-darach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Similar idea in sales - don't sell past the close. Once the customer has agreed to buy, anything you say after that point risks them reconsidering. Just give them the contract and keep your mouth shut.
Also in negotiation - make your point and stop talking. Just sitting there, keeping your mouth shut, rather than filling empty space is very powerful. Very awkward but very powerful.
tommybot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's better to be though of as stupid, than to open your mouth and prove them right.
holocyan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.
Plus_Cryptographer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Two exceptions: Lawyers that represent YOU (not your company) and medical/psychological staff. The more they know the more they can do for you.
therealemero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Teachers all over the world are now reconsidering their chosen profession.
Godwin0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm 16 with strict parents so I learned this the hard way
TsuDoughNym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best English professor I ever had was in community college. He told us to call him Bob. His length "requirement" for papers was "write until you're done, then stop." No artificial requirement of 30 pages, single spaced, upside down and backwards, in Latin, in size 8 font.
KISS -- Keep It Simple, Stupid.
option_unpossible ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This advice, while known to me for many years, is still difficult for me to implement all the time. I have a habit of offering too much info and looking bad or getting myself into trouble.
somepoet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learned this in grade school- whenever a teacher asked if I had my homework and I hadn't done it I'd just respectfully say "I don't have it today". It saved me from getting the embarrassing fuss pretty much everyone else got when they didn't bring in their homework because I didn't offer up any BS excuses. We both knew the policy on late work, which varied between classes but usually existed, so why bother making a big deal about it?
zombieinferno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially true with law enforcement.
They know one simple fact about the psychology of people...
Everyone wants to tell their story. So don't. Just give simple on-point responses.
Dmeks1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Gives you an idea of the company you are working for too. Sounds like a company for George Castanza
cuzitsthere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My coworker would straight up admit to murder if I let him talk long enough... I'm quiet, for the most part, and he fills that silence, particularly in front of the bosses, with an endless stream of dialogue covering every single thing we did that day... Drives me insane.
hexernano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โHalf of seeming clever is keeping your mouth shut at the right times.โ
Patrick Rothfuss, The Wise Manโs Fear
QueenAlucia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less, smile more.
dobermanRE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt give them the rope to hang you with
MiseryMantra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Ah this one thing worked for me in one situation so obviously it applies to everyone in all things always." ๐
jean_cule69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They actually forgot as well.
Devils_LittleSister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Another good one for your missed interview call would have been "is everything ok? I have not received a call at the arranged time" and let them do the math to see if they called the correct number or not.
SluttyNeighborGal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely agree. Itโs often what you DONT say that makes all the difference. Learn when to shut up.
Good luck with the interview!
melodysoul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I needed this, thank you. I was going to sit here and explain my whole life story as to why I over explain everything (lol) but letโs just leave it at thank you.
Steam-Meme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"And while we're talking let me offer you some free advice. Talk less, smile more don't let them know what you're against or what you're for." (Aaron Burr)
inconspeakuous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
No, go ahead and keep spitting out information! Fine by me. The more you know, the better!
pier4r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I realized this so long ago. But between realizing something useful and internalizing it , one needs to train a lot.
thnok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Something that keep into mind was the right of silence, โYou have the right to remain silent and refuse to answer questions. Anything you say may be used against you in a court of law.โ
tucker_frump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same with the police...
Silence is golden.
Roland_18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This post reminded me of these guys. https://youtu.be/JTurSi0LhJs
wookie768 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learned this in the army. Dont volunteer information
krone6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Don't interrupt your enemy while they're making mistakes"
devilkitteh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a tough one for people that grew up with overbearing or controlling parents, its an automatic behavior to over-explain because they got questioned/grilled so much by their parents about everything, takes a lot of work to get over. Less said the better!!
SMODomite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Good advice, especially if being pulled over. "Do you know why I stopped you today" "No sir, I have no idea" is a much better answer than admitting guilt to the officer
highboulevard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
.....And thatโs why Iโm not in jail yet
razorrred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
We got our test marks last week and I failed big time. Everyone was asking how I did and I just said I did alright. Now they all think I got the highest mark lol.
BrownAndyeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
103,000 likes? How has this reach 103,000!!?
Nice work, but Iโm baffled.
Conso001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, donโt fill the silence!
Itโs awkward as fuck but if you fill the silence you end up doing shit you really donโt want to do!
When you donโt fill the silence with people who you are speaking to, often they sort the problem out themselves
Joaac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
KISS
Keep it simple, stupid
davedavedotcom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never complain, never explain
fischestix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This, 100000 times this. I take call offs at work as part of my supervisor duties. Just say you are calling off. I don't need a story you will later contradict. Save us all some trouble and keep it to "I need to take a sick day".
Rando404 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was at a job interview. They asked me what I was looking for in regards to hourly wage, I had a number in mind but randomly asked what they were offering instead. They offered me $5 more an hour than I would've said. I've made thousands of dollars more because I got them to play their hand first.
snappytime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped talking for 30 days and this was THE biggest takeaway. I can't emphasize how important that is. I see so many people shoot themselves in the foot when they didn't need to if they had just kept their mouths shut. Also people feel obligated to give you more information when you're not talking, also very useful.
hashtagyikess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also applies to talking to the police or TSA
Shamuthewhaler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get how this is a pro tip when it comes to a job interview over the phone?
Catch_Here__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You got lucky they didnโt tell you to go fuck yourself. Itโs probably a phone interview with a recruiter anyways. This seems more like the behavior of a job recruiter and not talent acquisition at an actual company.
lurkermclurkens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTurSi0LhJs
endlessly_curious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The amount of times I have seen people lose negotiations, lose out on getting hired and more because they dont know when to shut the fuck up is astounding.
Mirewen15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm turning 40 next month and I only recently realized this. I would also dread situations like this and prolong them. Get it out of the way quick and with a little info as necessary. Saves a LOT of stress.
Jakemali ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I stick to this when I call in sick. I just say "I am not feeling well and won't be in today." I never tell them what's wrong, don't elaborate at all and I definitely don't put on a "sick" voice.
sarcazm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of something that happened to me a couple weeks ago at work.
I usually take my time doing uploads for a specific customer and have never gotten questioned about it.
However, I got an email a couple weeks ago asking why it wasn't uploaded and the email also informed me that another person couldn't log in to the site at all.
I wavered between apologizing and admitting I had not uploaded every file yet and just apologizing for the inconvenience and that I would look into it. Then emphasize the email more on the troubleshooting for the other person who couldn't log in.
So I decided to do the "I'll look into it email." And then I quickly uploaded the files. Soon after I finished, the site went down. So I emailed IT and they told me "IBM is working on it." So then I took the opportunity to blame IT. Implying that the new uploads were not showing up because of them. Which worked out because I had already successfully uploaded them before I lost access.
So yeah, don't offer information.
Chevyrider69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As you open your mouth and volunteer information online....contradicting idiots lol
Gavcradd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Silence in general is a very much underappreciated thing. If you're negotiating a new job or a raise? Set out your case and then stop talking - let the fill the silence with an offer. In trouble with the police / another authority? Keep quiet and let them offer up what they have rather than handing the evidence to them.
In general, "tis better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".
CaliTexas619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It took me 30 years to learn this.
pretzelzetzel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"You're guilty of everything you admit to."
Baggowitz18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Jinkies I need to learn this...
profiler56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When applying for a job go in knowing that they have checked your social media. There could be just 1 thing they find to not like
Verbal32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
magicbaers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I call off work by saying โI am not available today.โ Never an excuse.
VryMadHatter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or dont take advice from a guy that sleeps through an Interview
Lightly_Knight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It just depends on the situation at hand. For example: "Are you Korean?" This is a simple yes/no question. But when searching for a lost person, you will have to provide as much information as possible to someone who could have seen the lost person.
Litarider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Trying to teach this to a youth in my life who responded to a request for an interview with, โIโm so sorry it took me so long to see your message and to respond. I was in nearby town getting something that may be of use to you if the interviewer goes wellโmy passport.โ
No, just reply with โThank you for contacting me. I am available ______.โ
constructivCritic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
YSK that some us still feel like we're being dishonest when/if we do this.
shenmekongr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I have counter-examples, though. My partner missed an interview, called the employer, confessed their sons and said they'd overslept, and the employer was impressed by the conscientiousness and initiative. They were hired that afternoon.
Read the situation, I guess.
oxygenium92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My wife have so much problem with it. She might talk just for the sake of talking and overshare a lot.
apercu_consulting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Less is more in business and in life.
El-DiabYolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice on any level.
I worked for a business, and just like any business, we allowed service dogs. Itโs the law.
More specifically, service dogs for physical ailments. Emotional support dogs donโt count. But legally we were allowed to ask was if it was a service dog. We were not allowed to ask what was the dog for.
Sometimes weโd ask โis thatโs service dog?โ And people would respond, โyes, for my anxietyโ. Thatโs already too Much because now we were allowed to kick them out.
halerhoder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I have that urge of justifying all and everything in similar situations, this is a great advice to stop doing it.
GooberMcNoober ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:25 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Pro tip:
oh wait oh crap I fucked up I fucked up
rwter6969 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine taking advice from someone who sleeps through an interview
๐๏ธ w2555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You'd have to be mental to do that
xangelkiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never identify yourself in a crowd. Especially when the speaker/comedian asks a question to the audience. No one needs to know your info.
AlessandoRhazi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs extremely important when dealing with law enforcement, border agents etc.
kofie-popcorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am curious. What exactly did you say?
this_account_is_mt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear. I'll just make sure to oversleep all the time.
npvuvuzela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This advice is good for professional settings no doubt, but if you do this in relationships youโre gonna be divorced in no time
WatchFetish_23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As the saying goes, Loose lips sink ships
boomitsaturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is so accurate it's a little scary lol. Your first instinct will be to provide any sort of information that makes you look better, which makes sense. However, it's incredible how often things went way better if I didn't talk at all really.
DJ_T3DDY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Mike Bloomberg has to be wishing this was posted a day earlier
LethalDoseMLD50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Probably because it was for some shit position that any monkey could do and you are one of 100 people interviewing for the position and they donโt give a shit.
patronizingperv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What do you do?
Shut the fuck up. That's what you do.
chonkypot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is sound information regarding traffic stops, or really any interaction with law enforcement in the US as well
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's Shut Up Friday.
kdods22402 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
At my last place of employment, I was frequently never on time. I was never late enough to cause anyone trouble, but 2 to 7 minutes is noticeable. My manager was always asking me why I was never at work when I was scheduled, and looking down on me for it; especially because I was late for stupid reasons. One time though, he asked me why I wasn't on time, and I replied, "I apologize for my tardiness. I am late because of the poor decisions that I make as an adult."
For some reason, that was the time he ever asked me why I wasn't on time. I guess he just hated excuses. We were cool after that.
agnosticbeliever138 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I wish. Keeping my mouth shut is not one of my strengths.
Sammyscrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your cards close to your chest
FogeyDotage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent advice.
You're not lying but not putting yourself further in the hole either.
SgtWicket1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a loudmouth teen this guy told me โDonโt tell everything you knowโ and it has stuck with me ever since.
bermobaron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This goes for people who ask if they're allowed to do something. Just do it and face the consequences if/when you're caught, because you'll at least be armed with plausible ignorance.
For instance, on school trips, I'd always bring my Walkman and always got away with it, until I changed classes and we had one scheduled and some little nerd asked if we were allowed to bring them. Sure enough, we weren't. Sure enough, I brought mine. Sure enough, the teachers were extra vigilant and I got caught with it and it was confiscated. Keep your mouths shut.
catperzon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I do this when I am about to skip work for a day. I tell my boss โI wonโt be coming to work today, boss. Apologies.โ Thatโs it. And it always works.
nubulator99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ya itโs good to let someone else take the blame for something you did wrong. Dishonesty is great
Calibroncosfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this while in the Military, especially when talking to an Officer. Any side note or stray thought gets blown out of proportion, and suddenly youโre doing guard duty protecting the water cooler from a non-existent threat you speculated about.
Ziddix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's not bad advice in most situations. Don't talk too much. Convey the information you need to convey and then stop talking.
Sniec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Let us know if they picked you.
Jack_Varus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
On my way to an interview I couldn't find the business and the postcode took me halfway doen the road. I had to phone and ask for directions from reception and barely made it in time.
It turned out that it was an initiative test. The person doing the interview was informed and I knew I'd horribly blown it at that point.
Got offered the job and worked there for years. As it happened it is inconspicuous for a reason. It was a commercial microbiology lab dealing in testing various products for contamination and compliance but the lab itself was converted from flats above some shops.
If it became widely known about locally the premises would be inviting for local drug dealers to break into to steal equipment (mainly the scales) which would be extremely costly to replace.
athanathios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to me once, I actually got an interview at a private airport/airline in a field that I wasn't in cus my dad got my brother's father to set it up. I actually didn't oversleep and got to the place @ 10am, the interview was for 10:30am. I told them I thought it was for 10:30am, turns out I didn't get it, but the interview went OK. That worked out for me cus I didn't really want to drive across the city daily to work there. I could have easily come up with a good excuse, but was honest, so that worked out for me.
Tomagatchi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is excellent LPT, took me a long time to learn this information.
Kyari_Mason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My work has auditors come in twice a year. Our #1 rule is to answer the question and stop talking after that. The auditors will stand in silence and there is always that one person who can't handle silence.
Example: auditor asks how to perform a task. We have very specific instructions on how to perform said task. Instead of just saying "I do this" and showing them, someone says "well I do this but I see other people do it this way and my supervisor doesn't care as long as we get it done..."
Suijetsu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta
ATMLVE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less, smile more.
madeupname230 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I donโt use my turn signals. Never give advanced movement info to the enemy.
MrArmbar90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, maybe I should oversleep more - that'll get the good ol' creative juices flowing!
neuromonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is an ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL skill to learn--keep your fucking mouth shut. There are a dozen great reasons for this beyond the example the OP gave, but trust me when I tell you that it is one of the single most important things you should learn. Failing to learn it will definitely (no, I do not mean "probably,") get you into hot water at one point or another.
Absolutely, positively, never volunteer ANY unnecessary information to a police officer.
Really, truly. No matter how friendly you may be with your employer, they ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.
Just shut up.
killerrobothippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Especially when stopped by police or going through customs. Answer their questions as concisely as possible. The more you try to elaborate, the more suspicious they get.
JimAsia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like what every lawyer on every TV show ever made tells every client.
PornMonkey5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A big part of the secret to success is a little luck now and then. So, you have that going for you OP.
shdwghst457 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Edit: what the shit. 107k upvotes and top post of all time on LPT, all because I overslept"
LPT: oversleep
magicone2571 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, don't pay for anything or offer to pay anything unless you are 100% sure you're liable to pay for it. Those credit cards of your father after he passed away? No, you don't have to pay those. The second you send them a dime you just bought the entire bill.
OriginalOutlaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'm always telling my direct reports this when I am speaking to them about an error, or issue they have. Don't give me an excuse unless I ask for one. You aren't in trouble; nothing is going to happen to you. Just need to fix it/figure it out and move on.
goldheadsnakebird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โNever explain, never apologizeโ that is the Royal family motto and has served them well so far
ShillAudition ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This times 1000 if dealing with the police. Just sayin...
Guh-nurt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The coconut post has at long last been dethroned
FunkyRiffRaff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, they teach that when you practice interviewing as some interviewers intentionally leave long pauses to see if you start rambling.
wskyindjar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt volunteer info man
SkyLon_Reset ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I did this and now im in PRISON
bkboggie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โWhy did you cheat on me??โ โYou never asked...Iโm just following what LPT instructed me to doโ
Memohigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This lifepro tips is for anyone who isnt Chinese, they already know it since birth.
EagleTree1018 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this from years of watching Judge Judy.
secondchance4now ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut!
...unless you're playing an RPG and need to complete quests
JaxyRod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for basically confirming, I always seemed to have great luck when I just say it a short way with no actual excuse
Varthredalgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:41 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is it. Things go so much smoother than expected when you don't make excuses. Over-explaining makes everyone uncomfortable.
urbansith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:07 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Upvoted for the edit
eeqqcc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โEverything you say can and will be used against youโ. Or however the correct version of the Miranda rights sounds
economygenius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As an economist I understand the nature of this post. Information is a commodity but you donโt want to give it away for free.
Shutaru_Kanshinji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I very much agree with this advice, if only because I think it reflects poorly on me to make excuses.
mwilleync77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad has a saying that I've tried to stick to and, it's saved me many times and, it's pretty much what you said in a nut shell.
"Tell them what time it is, not who made the watch".
2water ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
OP isnt that what ur doing rn
bigmac22077 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also learn to stop giving excuses. You either did it or you didnโt. If you did, it doesnโt matter why, apologize and or fix it and move on.
xploosiveadooturd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always tell my mom this but she never listens rip
sleeplessknight101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Poker taught me the value of withholding information funny enough.
TheSaadDan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
everyone talking about how this helped is doing the exact opposite of what this just told them to do lmao
cocain_puddin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is the most under rated advice so far I've seen, people are so quick to unknowingly throw themselves under the bus just by trying to do the right thing.
oifev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That is textbook art of the deal. Never trust another man in negotiations.
mr_earthman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is why gossip and news exists. It's a commodity and most people cash in on it, by talking fast and getting that sweet social status, before anybody else. (And lightening awkward silences, I guess ๐ )
RyanTheReginald ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:45 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Attorneys love this advice, and cops do not want you to listen to this advice.
talormanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talking too much will always get you into trouble.
jaywhs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:26 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The quieter you become, the more you hear.
JonasGangsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: Donโt sleep through the fucking interview
ApoptosisPending ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus christ its like the people who liked and commented on it all know a secret and the rest are people who dont know when to stop talking. Knowing which information to divulge is a modern day superpower.
damoreweed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same goes for sales. Keep it simple. If they push, then haggle lol.
If they say yes to your service or product, stop selling. Donโt keep talking.
ClumsyRenegade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always heard this from the other side. If you want to catch someone, give them enough rope to hang themselves. The less you say and the more they do, the more likely they are to admit their stupidity.
bumbes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can somebody show this LPT to Trump?
thiccslop3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Real Talk.
My boys in the military best know this by default. Know your role and shut your mouth.
"I don't know, sir" got me out of trouble 95% of the time. Even though I knew 100% that it was my fault and I fucked up.
Also,
Fuck you Lt. Mohr. Not my fault that the base security didn't check if my plates were expired. How tf was I supposed to know you needed to re-register a car after 1 year. I don't know, sir.
//Signed//
Airman 18-year-old dip shit
genetic_patent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I sat in on an HR call with an employee. HR asked what the employee thought the call was about, and the employee pretty much unraveled. She just wouldn't stop. The call was just a simple reminder to be kind to another employee, instead it became grounds for dismissal.
Dopa123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A bit off topic but always go for minimum effort for maximum reward, that way if you ever need to impress or lift your game at work it will only require a little bit more effort on your part and your extra efforts won't go unnoticed.
Pistol_Bobcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, suddenly everyone is golden tongue, cold blooded charisma artist and self-control master. It's best to find middle ground, people appreciate honesty just as much as not talking too much. There isn't a single key to success in life.
RocknrollReborn1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โNever rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shutโ
friezasephiroth1993 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Was a half hour late to work last week. Didnโt say anything. My boss just assumed I was on time and didnโt look back at the schedule.
RudyGiuliCommie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Once the interview starts you might want to open up a bit tho.
Athuny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had to do this last week when I called in sick. I was only physical unwell because I was having severe anxiety and panic attacks that day. I called the Charge Nurse, said I apologize but I'm not feeling well and will not be coming in today. Charge Nurse said don't worry about it, well handle it. Done. No fuss, no miss, no worry.
welderjeb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This was great advice when I was an automotive service writer. I believe my boss called it disciplined communication. โSay the facts, price, and estimated completion time, then shut up. The first person to talk losesโ. It worked a lot, kind of impressive. Just look someone in the eyes and tell them the bad news and be honest, but donโt ramble.
rvncto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I just watched Hamilton. This is the Aaron Burr LPT
famousdirt96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always say less than necessary. Rule 4
mrbigman3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So true.. act like nothing happened
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So many people have a hard time not over-sharing these days. Their mouth just won't close. It's like they're missing GABA.
Rock0ne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I bought a couple of books online and gave incomplete address.
I called Fedex to see where my shipment is at. I just needed to give them the tracking number at the facility as well to get my package.
If I had mentioned that I gave them the wrong address, the process to contact the shipper and get the address corrected will take up to 5 days.
Yes. I never give any additional infos unless I was asked and it was really necessary.
MaleConfessor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Glen Gary glen ross
Peterx2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Anything you say can be used against you. Donโt give TMI to people.
noppppppppppp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:37 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep is good for you.
lurkeratclub96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You can file this under โthings Iโm still learning.โ
...See? Did it again.
Libby512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is such a good tip. Also applies to answering interview questions
ComradeCrypto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is also the way to go when declining an invitation. "Sorry, I cant make it" is all you need to say. Dont explain yourself, just keep it simple and move on!
huskergirl8342 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know what time it is? Yes. Perfect example of answering a question with not adding details. My cop ex boyfriend repeatedly told me this.
solarifm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You got lucky. I work in HR and Talent acquisition within Telecom and I can tell you that we know when someone misses their IV. Systems dont make mistakes, people do. That Recruiter or HR Manager missed it, human error on their part.
TheBigSqueak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
In general over-talking while giving an excuse just makes you look like a liar anyway. The less info the better and if they donโt ask donโt bother telling.
victorespinola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Another way of saying this: โnever use a second argument when you already convinced someone with just oneโ.
iwellyess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I will try this with my wife
Darqnyz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Only provide information you were specifically asked for... No more no less!
HauntedCoffeeCup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is great advice for every day conversation as well. Want to lengthily explain in an email to someone who hurt you how they hurt you? Do not. Stick to the point and donโt deviate.
Fizanagi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
But you're volunteering information in this post OP, what if they see it now?
AllDatJizzJazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs a reason why there is a stereotype that smart people are generally quiet. Thereโs a reason why weโre quiet ๐
jonesocnosis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There is also the standard "don't talk to the police" only your lawyer should ever talk to them.
S-ShowPodcastDotCom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Highest level tip. I had to learn this the hard way.
bigms1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is most important when dealing with police.
sfzombie13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:13 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
even a fish wouldn't get in trouble if it would just keep it's mouth shut.
Heavy72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:24 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather gave me a lot of advice when I was a kid... one of which was "never miss a good chance to shut up"
MeliodasIsBomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This works when you want things to move seamlessly with the information at-hand, and aren't too concerned with the result. It's generally good practice to prevent over-complicating things and perhaps keep you out of trouble.
However. In ANY case where information sharing is vital to coordination/success, withholding informatuon is BAD. BAD, BAD, BAD!!
So, in short, knowing when and what to withold is also important.
trollboter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
TIFU - I made a post on LPT about over sharing information. 100k upvotes later the company called to cancel the interview.
IWantTheLastSlice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This applies to calling/emailing in sick to work. Not feeling well, need to take a sick day. Thatโs it. No one gives a shit about the details and it ends up sounding like youโre case building.
longgamma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I would highly recommend Malcolm Gladwell's latest book - Talking to Strangers.
UNeed2CalmDownn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Michael always says K.I.S.S. Keep it simple stupid, great advice...hurts my feelings every time.
deepscreazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:15 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Internet wisdom has, unfortunately, hit too little too late.
justmadethisup111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt sleep on this advice!
ralbright25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Say less" learned that from a jock I used to work with. The type to openly have girlfriend and openly brag about how he cheats on her. But hey good advice is good advice
TheDeadlySpaceman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Not just in cop or mistake situations either. Youโre always better off not broadcasting everything you know to everyone around you. They arenโt sharing everything they know or have observed.
GearshiftJB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I tried this LPT with the Evil Overlord. This is how it went.
Wife: Where did you go? Me: Out. W: Okay but where? Me: I can't say.. W: Why not? Me: Reddit. W: ....the fuck are you on about?
Currently on the couch with a blanket and pillows.
don_denti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:44 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of this
https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/ezvml1/best_legal_advice_ever/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
markio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Brilliant LPT... also silence has a powerful effect, somehow causing the other party to fill the silence and be on their heels.
1977thefishguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was taught to think fast and answer slow. It is also a great technique for sales. Often times by not saying something right away people will continue to talk giving you more information.
FiercelyFuzzy206 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is VERY good advice and I give it all the time (especially after this happened to one of my old roommates...store as follows).
Back in college, I had a roommate who was very excited to get into his field and applying all over. In the meantime of finishing up and going to job interviews, he got a job at some fast food place. He originally applied for a supervisor position to make more money and they weren't against it until he said one thing.
"I don't plan to be here long, maybe a year at most as I transition into [field]."
He never got the position. I asked him if they asked him how long he planned on being there....nope, he gave them that information. This is a perfect example of not getting a job because you gave information. NEVER lie to an employer but if they don'tDon't ask those questions that's on them. Dont provide them it for free.
luckyicecream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't volunteer period.
Volboris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I was always told "Never miss an opportunity to shut the fuck up" when it came to dealing with higher-ups.
whysoparanoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did this when I got pulled over and he asked if I knew why. Kept me from getting my car impounded and he let me off with a warning for speeding. This is truly some of the best advice you can give and live by
JacobJustice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less. Smile more.
SynapticAlpha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate how this post in itself is more information than needed. Very meta.
Or is it?
GhostDoggoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had an interview for an agency job and they sent me info on the location of the hiring site but not the location of the training site. Stayed like that for a week leading to the training. Overslept like you did and went to the hiring location instead. They apologized for the mistake and let me train within the hour.
lord_weasel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
100% agree. At my current job, we hired a new person for our team. Every time they leave work earlier than other people, they have to explain why. We come into work whenever we get there, and leave after 8 hours. They will explain that they have to go take care of this or that, etc. Every time they get up from their desk they feel the need to explain why. No one else does that, no one cares. Just do your shit and if someone asks why, then explain further. Usually I don't care, but some of the shit they say makes me roll my eyes so hard because no one needs to know that shit.
Hyperion626 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel this way when people call out if work offering BS excuses. You have sick/personal time, just say "hey I need to call out today". The end. Don't waste my time with an obvious lie when it is not required.
nuffced ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:55 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same goes for email.
Redditaspropaganda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thisnis good advice but people will take it too far. As usual you need to be tactful not just give one word answers
fromsmallthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
The selection process is a window into a company and based on this I would immediately not want to work at a company that is so clearly dysfunctional.
auntjemimahlvr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You keep YOUR mouth shut
MlonEusk2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had to learn this the hard way.
Rambo272727 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:50 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously the less you say the better in almost any situation.
manfishgoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learned this from a co-worker that was a prison guard once. Said you could always tell the ones trying to lie, they had this long story but the honesty ones wouldnt say much more than a few words.
Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought of as a fool than to open it and remove all doubts -- some famous fuck
YouKneeBomber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never ask for permission. Wait and ask for forgiveness.
Internal-Tomatillo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or you could be a responsible adult and just, oh idk, make the call on time. Not even like you had to be anywhere at a certain time. Literally couldve done the interview from your own bed๐๐๐
Oderry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best tip ever. And one of the hardest to follow.
Bubmack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or make it up..my go to is that I was hit by a car crossing the street. Rolled up on the hood but Iโm ok. After that...everything is forgiven.
bsigmon1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best advice for a new job
Stickyjarg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like vague advice, if you followed this advice when calling in sick to work it could easily get you fired
Fleathecreep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My 4th grade teacher Ms.Cooper taught me to take responsibility by scolding you more if you gave her excuses about why you didn't do your homework if you simply said "I dont have an excuse I just didn't do it" you wouldnt be scolded as bad and now that's exactly what I do even if I do have excuses
shotgun883 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:43 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm in the military, itโs better to be not turn up than be late for a parade. Not turning up can be excused by something big, being late is 100% your fault and made worse by everyone seeing you.
If your gonna like be 15-30 mins late for work, donโt run in half cocked past everyone clearly and obviously late in full disorganised panic mode.
STEP 1: Call ahead to HR and tell them your not feeling great and need to stop at the Doctors/Chemist and youโll be in at 1030.
STEP 2: Donโt tell them any BS reason. The chances are they donโt want that stomach bug/cold/aids youโre faking and will tell you to stay at home, docking your pay. Unwell, donโt worry, Iโll be fine after I picked up some meds, see you at 1030.
STEP 3: Chill, stroll into work at 1030, donโt rush, donโt panic, youโve excused yourself and donโt pretend youโre dying of some imaginary disease.
STEP 4: Buy a better alarm, get out of bed earlier, plan your route to work better. Once or twice happens, once or twice a month will get you sacked.
insignifiyesican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:05 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Sage words! And I rather feel like this tip would go over well in r/ADHD. After all, we ADHDers tend to overshare to the max. Thank you for sharing!
EDIT: I wrote โshareโ far too much. sigh
ElmStreetVictim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
What is it with this thread and posts about job interviews and being late for them?
CryingLightning39 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Loose lips sink ships". This goes especially in the workplace and any time you're dealing with people you don't know.
Charnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:39 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Biggest thing Iโve learnt this year. Donโt over explain yourself, most people donโt care and just want to move on
zabuma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:08 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, an actually helpful LPT post lmao
ChiengBang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hope your interview goes well! Best of luck!
MeInUSA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Snitches get stitches
Duckbilling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:28 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"never waste a good opportunity to shut the fuck up"
big_duck_energy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
And don't talk to cops.
TheHonestModerator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs better to keep your mouth closed and let people think youโre a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.
OPasUnicorns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ULPT: Give information, but lie and make it fit a more attractive narrative. People are far more likely to concede to your request when you give them a reason that they resonate with over no reason or with a reason that they feel isn't acceptable.
Ginjor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:12 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Always stuck with "Don't ask don't tell"
TemporaryArt7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I never do. I think the absolute last time I went on a ramble was in front of a judge the first time I was called for jury duty a decade ago. Before that I'd worked in enough "corporate-ish office-ish" type places to know the best policy is to be succinct as fuck, mostly for your own protection.
These days if I ever encounter anyone who seems like they're trying to get me to talk myself into a whirlwind about something (or most importantly, somebody,) they immediately go on my personal "watch list" and it's pretty much absolute at that point that we will most definitely never be friends. I know what you're going to say: "Oh god '48 Laws of Power,' cheesy bullshit," which for the most part it is, but one of a few actually useful laws deals with this sort of thing.
catbread1810 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:11 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes learning to dial back is a difficult one for me. I'll practice it when my life isn't demanding full disclosure on everything!
crickets90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I also do this when calling out to work
โHello, i need to call out today. Thanksโ
I absolutely refuse to give an excuse.
IHScout70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
All this tells us is that you are lazy and are unreliable, yet you think itโs funny. How do you expect to make it to work if you canโt make the interview.
rainsmellssogood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is excellent advice from op. I'm the Recruiting Coordinator for a medium sized sales company with several locations nationwide. We schedule 50+ phone interviews a day. You would be surprised at the amount of people that just don't answer or respond during their scheduled time. If someone takes the initiative to actually reach out to try and reschedule I immediately consider them more professional. I don't want to hear how you had a flat tire, your kid is sick, your dick got stuck in your zipper etc. Just apologize and ask to reschedule and I'm always happy to do so. Just my 2 cents.
Enormousnessness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Upvoting for extra sleep.
XOPrincessG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Look Lips Sink Ships"
an_actual_crocodile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It should be noted that you should only use this advice when you're concerned someone is trying to take advantage of you, like for example with your employer or with the police. If you treat your friends like this then they won't be your friends for very long, as it's a very disingenuous way of communicating.
tek_ad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't complain, don't explain
HornyAttorney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"stop talking" is like the most thing I ever say.
oldfrancis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
It's better to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. -- unsure who to credit this to
AnCircle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I feel this tip is best when dealing with cops
ItsOnlyRizzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Totally agree with this. My rental car was stolen yesterday. Fortunately I found it everything recovered safely also no damage or anything but because I volunteered that I left my purse inside of shopping bags inside the trunk (keys in purse) I can no longer rent. I shouldโve just left that detail out
MillionAir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Be prepared for silence & wait it out.
I had a boss that would ask a question and once you answered he would remain quiet simply waiting to see if more information would spill out.
I saw the same coworker time and again bury himself deeper because he couldnโt wait out the silence.
Me-AAMaadmi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: If your girl thinks you sleeping, don't enlighten her that you are not. Not even if she home alone.
dittany_didnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:51 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs not always true. But itโs true so much more often than any of us, particularly the naive suppose
Fried_Fart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, this is really great, practical advice.
DeathToUsAllGodBless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is so fucking true. I have to remind my wife this all the time.
SimplySpartans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:17 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
New to car sales, been in hospitality my whole life. Realized recently to, how do I say... SHUT THE FUCK UP. People come wanting to buy a car and me talking is more often than not talking them OUT of the car. Donโt tell them more than they want to know, if they ask something, answer it then STFU
purpl3rain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I slept through an interview once too. I had just moved and didn't realize my google calendar wouldn't shift time zones automatically. It 'helpfully' showed my appointment time as 2pm instead of 9am, so when they called at 9:30 to to see why I didn't show I had no idea I had missed it! I did explain what had happened and we all had a good chuckle followed by a job offer.
tinysurvivor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I remember one of my senior engineers at one of my first jobs telling me about a fire code inspector who was coming through. He told me to answer only what was questioned. "If you're asked if you had breakfast, don't say you had bacon and eggs. Just say yes, sir." That stuck with me
ehfuzzball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Can some ask Mrs Moriset if this counts. A stranger volunteers personal info about their circumstances in order to help me. The info is about not volunteering info and keeping quiet. I appreciate it and wish more people would do this
theRealBatman21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
always keep your mouth shut
and never rat on your friends
ghijand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve heard saying โOne word is too little, two words are too muchโ.
Ranger6012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
There are two rules to life
karthaginian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
"Never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut." - Jimmy Conway
FlamingWarPig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
ESPECIALLY with cops. They use this buddy buddy attitude to get you talking but literally everything you say can be incriminating. https://youtu.be/JTurSi0LhJs
StridesMusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is how you go far in life. Work on your patience, be sincere and hold your tongue
beastmodetrucker85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:16 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I would apologize to a prospective employee because they missed an interview and didnt have a good reason for it.
This was an isolated incident please do not follow this advice.
strawberrydoughnuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Or the opposite. Go into a rambling story, confuse everyone, and then they let you off.
mphreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle always says, You can learn more by acting stupid than by acting intelligent.
dartdoug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
I had a similar story 35 years ago. I was a contract computer programmer living in the northern suburbs of Philadelphia. I was looking to move back to the New York City area and wanted a gig in Manhattan. I had a great interview at a bank downtown and they were ready to bring me on, but the position required some weekends on-call. The hiring manager of the group disappeared and came back saying โduty pager wonโt work where you live so we canโt hire you.โ
My next interview was at a pharma company. The manager there thought I would be a great fit but she saw the address on my resume and expressed concern that I would be travelling a long ways and might not be at work on time. I assured her that the trains ran every 15 minutes or so and that I would be on time every day. I was to start on Monday.
I timed everything out so I would be 30 minutes early on my first day. I drove to Trenton, New Jersey where I caught the Amtrak to Penn Station. After a walk across town Iโd be at my desk by 8am.
On my VERY FIRST DAY I got on the train in Trenton It pulled about 100 yards out of the station and then STOPPED. After a long wait the conductor said that there was a problem on the tracks and that it would be a while. No problem. I had those extra 30 minutes. We sat there for 90 fucking minutes. Mind you this was before cell phones existed and the train was away from the station so we couldnโt even get off to catch another train (the local tracks were fine and those trains were whizzing by us the entire time).
Bottom line: I was supposed to be in the office at 8:30am. I got there at 9:30 just knowing that the boss would turn me away saying that this clearly wasnโt going to work out.
Her office door was closed, so I took a seat outside her office awaiting my fate. After about 10 minutes the door opened and Mary came out. She said โI am SOOO sorry I kept you waiting. I got on a conference call that ran for over an hour and I forgot you were starting today. Let me show you to your cubicle.โ
That contract ran for for more than 4 years. It paid for my house.
EDIT: English
PiratusInteruptus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Now if we could get people in the habit of having that same attitude when approached by a LEO.
Goldenmyth5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:56 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
K.I.S.S. Keep it simple stupid
Martin_RageTV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially true for legal matters.
I don't condone doing illegal shit but at NO point admit to anything.
SeethingLlama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:32 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is true in a lot of areas. NEVER tell a cop you "just had a couple drinks". ALWAYS deny, deny, deny. No field tests at all. Make them prove you guilty.
tissue4yuo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:20 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Having a oversharing hangover happens to me every-time I talk to someone new.
katiefurxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve been trying to do more of that lately. I tend to share things that I find interesting/out-of-the-ordinary at work but am noticing that this gets me more work assigned to me. Like, shut up girl!!!
innerpeacethief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:58 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm in sales, the best way it was put to me was like this: if someone asks you the time, donโt tell them how the watch was made, tell them the time...
Turtle_Hermits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I heard that a lot of auto insurance companies get skeptical when people make a claim and talk alot.
"So I was driving, doing about 50, and the guy beside me kept looking over and swerving. Eventually he sped up to overtake me and merged into my lane. At the same time he clipped my front end. And I didn't speed up, he just came out of nowhere."
Compared to "I was on HWY 10 and another motorist hit me."
The latter is generally seen with less suspicion. Because what do the other details matter? At the end of the day, he hit me. Thats all there is to it. It also closes any opportunity to contradict yourself in a few days when more details are asked for.
prodromic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also, never volunteer for a favor when somebody asks. When somebody asks, "can you do me a favor?", always follow up with, "it depends what it is." Dont ever be afraid to say No if you're not comfortable with the favor.
bud1988 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:03 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Larry David makes this mistake in Curb Your Enthusiasm all the time.
All4one10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've learned working in a job where most of my coworkers are 40+ years old to just keep it short and sweet and don't add anything that isn't asked. The more you talk the more of a hole you dig.
MattimusXX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:57 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Boy oh boy where were you for the last 30 years...
dokter0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:23 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I tell people this all the time! Donโt say more than you need. Always aim for brevity. If someone truly listens and wants to know more, theyโll ask.
Verbosity makes people tune out.
tpotts16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:35 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yea Iโm an attorney and this is like rule number one. Take a deep breath, donโt dump everything, anticipate responses.
King_Goron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:10 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less; smile more. Don't let them know what you're against or what you're for.
desertedstreets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:52 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Upon some introspection I've realised I mostly overshare when I'm trying to fill the silence between conversations to keep it going. Later on I always regret saying more than I should have. Now I'm fine with silence and let the other person fill in if they're feeling awkward. Less is always more!
desertedstreets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:27 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Stop supplying people free information or ammo to judge us and then wonder why they judge us
BabaYagasFamiliar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:24 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is really good advice, which I am constantly trying to explain to the people in my life who screw themselves over by offering up too much information. For instance, someone I know could have gotten free college paid for by their parent's employer if the parent didn't offer up the information that the student was attending remotely online (courses operate the same way and it's the exact same degree as attending in person, but offering up that information made the employer reject it.) Students I have known are constantly being screwed by offering too much information in their explanation to professors, for instance about why something was late. So many times I've known people to offer up information they didn't need to and that they didn't know was, for instance, admission of having done something against the rules. They often think giving more information will make someone take more pity on or be friendlier to them, but I find all this tends to do is arm the other party with more ways to find fault in you or your actions.
jjbjeff22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:30 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
โWhy did you leave your last jobโ โWhile I enjoyed working at company xyz, my contract has ended.
Donโt offer a reason why it was ended, especially if you know you are at fault.
hiskias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:51 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My dad always used to say: "Not telling something isn't lying".
Spicetake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:26 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you just keep on and on how you were wrong they will believe it too. I have used this method for some time now.
Also if your friends ask you to do something that you dont want, just say no. Dont make up excuses and go on rambling why, simple no will do or "no, I cant today"
MyChipmunkFace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:08 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I got heatstroke on the way to a job interview once and the next day there was a long email berating me for wasting their time and then an offer to reschedule in the last line. I never contacted them again because if that email was any indication of how they treat their staff then I didnโt want to work there.
TigreDemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:44 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Did you just gave us too much info ?
Protozoo_epilettico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:45 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah during the middle age people used to say "excusatio non petita accusatio manifesta"--> If you give unasked excuses or information you are stating your fault from the beginning.
ChamChala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:41 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
God that reminds me this time at guard practice we were doing a run and I accidentally hit someone during one segment, and my coach came up to me and asked โare you okay?โ To which I replied with whatever bullshit myself self spewed out at the time which was โyeah my drill spot is all the way across the floor so I canโt quite make it and I accidentally hit ____ and then I couldnโt recover-โ and then hit cut me off because all he was talking about what that he thought I could smile more to better sell the performance, oh well.
Crocosaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:50 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this the hard way but its absolutely true
T2is ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:47 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've been like that all my life. Few people know who I am
rockitman12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:41 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I did this TWICE yesterday, after reading this post. Cost me multiple hundreds of dollars. Fuck fuck duck.
Liam_Neesons_Oscar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:43 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This applies for a lot of reasons other than just the fact that they might already have information that negates the need for yours.
It also makes you appear more confident. Being overly apologetic is not a good look. When I'm late to a meeting with a client, I first find out if they are waiting for me or if they were also not ready. Often, when I show up, I'll sit down in the waiting area and have to wait 5-10 minutes before the person I was meeting comes out to greet me with a "sorry to keep you waiting, that phone call ran long" or something similar. But if I show up and they were waiting on me, or it was a large meeting and they had already started, I give a simple "sorry I'm late." I then move the conversation on to the meeting as quickly as possible. I don't publicly berate myself for the mistake, I don't give excuses, and I make the mistake as unmemorable as possible. Every second you spend talking about a mistake you made only reinforces that mistake in the mind of the people present.
When you make mistakes or are late, use different wordings for your apologies each time. Don't give them a phrase to latch onto to associate with you doing something wrong. It'll only make them realize how often it happens, even if it's not that often. By the third repetition, most people will have drawn an association between that phrase and you. The fourth time will get them thinking "he sure says that a lot." The amount of interactions you have with them will not soften the blow. That could be missing a four homework assignments in one year of school, or being late to work by a minute four times, or even apologizing for something you didn't do. When you hit that number, they'll start thinking of you as the person who "always" does that. Using different wordings will help buy you a few extra mulligans.
guy92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:25 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When I joined my previous company, I had a day 1 drug test I didn't know was coming. I'd smoked weed with my friends a few weeks prior, and was brining it thinking it was a definitely fail and fired.
However, it was a saliva test, and then we were given a break afterwards. I was considering going to see the HR last and telling her what had happened, but did some googling around and realised saliva picks up 48 hours of use, so I was in the clear.
Found out later on that the company has an absolute zero tolerance policy, and I would have been sacked even though it was before I had started.
BooPhukinWho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:53 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
My old man ALWAYS said โkeep your mouth shut and you will stay out of trouble.โ
Alan_Smithee_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:40 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually brilliant advice.
We all screw up on occasion, and we can often fix it, if weโre smart (Iโm not advocating downright dishonesty.)
This is even more important with job interviews, negotiations and the like. Sometimes we donโt actually know the figure they have in mind, or other circumstances that we may not be aware of.
Always let the other person go first:
Years ago, my wife and I had just moved countries and purchased a house. We were a bit short of funds, and she/we decided she needed a summer job.
She happened to find an ad for an organisation that was looking for someone to develop an educational program.
Considering she was a teacher, we thought this was pretty much perfect. She wrote them a great cover letter, and they agreed, because they contacted her, excited to conduct an interview.
We discussed what the project would entail; it had a multimedia component that would need to be produced (right up my alley) and we came up with a rough price we thought was doable, but we decided to see what they had in mind, to ensure we were all speaking the same language.
So she asked them, in the course of the discussion, what their budget was, and it transpired they had just gotten a government grant to develop this resource. And told her what the budget was, which was double what we had decided would be an acceptable price for us.
So never put your cards on the table too early. Client was happy, the program was great, everyone was happy, especially us.
elonFusck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:19 on February 21, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - and note that this is NOT the same as lying!
GaryChalmers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:04 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't weave a tangled web, keep your lies short and simple.
bilabrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:46 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
So...you want a job with a company that doesn't have it's shit together?
Detroitaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:55 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm much older than most of the people here & I donโt know how to tag posts yet. However, if someone is familiar with the post of 2 lawyers offering advice ( shut the fuck up , over & over again), please tag it here. Itโs very entertaining & totally makes opโs point.
hanselthecaretaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:39 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yet for some reason we keep listening to politicians who by design do the exact opposite, in hopes of us allowing them into a position of power over us all.
s3Nq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:44 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A wise man once said nothing
AdventureGirl1234567 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:05 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I had a FaceTime interview for my first โrealโ job, and i accidentally pressed something and FaceTime didnโt work. I was about to explain but the interviewer sounded embarrassed and started saying how terrible she was with tech so I let it go and we just chatted over the phone.
Got the job ๐๐ป
laureire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:40 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You donโt have to explain yourself to anyone.
Iowa_and_Friends ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:17 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. word travels fast.
BUTTON YOUR LIP.
When in doubtโzip it.
Xinuka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:53 on February 22, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Theory doesn't hold up well when used towards the girlfriend
SippycupStudios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:44 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
itโs just like when a police officer asks you what they pulled you over for, just give them a short answer along the lines of โiโm not sureโ. the more you explain yourself, the more unbelievable you sound
Nmbr-9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:06 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I've been practicing this for a little while now. Before, when emailing my boss, I would give way too many details. His reply would be maybe 3 words. I always felt stupid after.. Now I am straight to the point and I get these nice solid in depth replies from him. This is great advice and totally deserves all the up votes! Nice one OP
tallpaulmass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:23 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs a saying, it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think that youโre an idiot rather than open your mouth and prove them right.
BarneyStinson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:30 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less, smile more.
Eazy_DuzIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:45 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This advice could have changed my life a few years ago, I had an interview, great opportunity with Mega Corp. and totally botched it because I was traveling and forgot to change my watch to a different time zone. If I had just asked to reschedule I would have been infinitely more prepared.
Jesus_H_Peters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:06 on February 23, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I work in HR - never offer excuses. You did the right thing. You definitely donโt want to say you forgot about it or overslept, and you also donโt want to make up excuses. We sniff that stuff out. Lol
kerkouch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:19 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be like Sheldon Cooper!
almozayaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:25 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I down vote first because of the title, My mind go to something else, that good tip pro
buttfuckery-clements ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:54 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs a nice turn of luck, but I still completely disagree with this. If someone doesnโt fully explain a situation to me/doesnโt provide me with a reason for their poor behaviour, that to me is a show of disrespect. Am I not worthy of an explanation? I always explain my reasoning to the other person if Iโve fucked up or something has fucked me up. And itโs when people just take every reason as an excuse that I get really pissed off. No, Iโm not trying to make excuses. Iโm giving you the full context because I respect you and I want you to be able to make an informed judgement about whether you think that respect is real.
R4NK5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:18 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Wish my wife got this. Only tell them what they need to know.
blackwidowla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:50 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
1000% agreed. Less is more. Absolutely do not ever give people anymore information than is absolutely critical. Has also saved me numerous times. I constantly rag on and on about this to my business partner who rambles and tells everyone everything. Drives me nuts. Regardless of whether youโre the business owner raising funds or the person being interviewed, less is more. Always.
deepthought75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:00 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Law No.4 of the 48 laws of power - Always say less than necessary
Redpikes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:40 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Anything you say can and will be used against you is about everything
Gsgshap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:44 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a threat?
realbigbob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:33 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of a few months ago when I slept through my alarm for an early morning flight. Showed up at the airport roughly an hour and a half after takeoff and simply told the ticket agent โhey, I missed my flight, can you get me on a new one?โ No questions asked, I was on a new flight within the hour
dg72ad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:14 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing applies to lying. The more you talk the less convincing it becomes. Quick confident lies without much explanation often work best.
radioclash86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:32 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This goes triple if youโre being questioned by the police.
accessred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:16 on February 24, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When being asked questions by an insurance company just stick to yes/no answers where you can.
e_cascio2011 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:03 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm not following. So hi just apologized and that was it. What does this have to do with a pro tip?
DereChen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:22 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
very good advice
pussycryptoweed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:54 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Talk less. Smile more.
InattentiveCashier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:13 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As an internal recruiter myself, I can not recommend this enough BUT it doesnโt apply to in-person interviews.
Your phone screen is typically with a member of the HR or recruiting team, and theyโre mostly just โscreening for crazyโ as my boss likes to say.
When it comes to the in-person interviews, it WILL make it up the ladder that you were late for an in-person. It WILL result in questions from the final decision maker (if youโve been late, but werenโt questioned, know that whoever you first spoke to covered for your ass because filling a role is similar to โclosingโ a sale). Depending on the company, it might impact their decision to hire you at all (shows lack of planning ahead, inability to time management, lack of attention to detail, etc...). All of that comes down to the opinions of the final decision maker.
Anyway, my whole point is, you only get ONE first impression and you should make the most of it. If you miss a phone screen and arenโt given a second chance, itโs probably not a company you want to be working for anyway.
Fun aside from the other end of the process: I phone screen highly technical candidates every day. When I first started, I tripped over my words a lot just out of nerves and lack of first-hand experience interacting with these people. Rather than admit this and sound stupid, then say โsorry, what I meant was...โ or โoops, tongue tied, what Iโm trying to say isโ (or any variation of that) I would just fumble over my own words and immediately go silent. The candidates always thought we lost connection and would hang up and call me back. My peers loved it and now itโs become a trick we teach newbies lol. I plan to use it when Iโm eventually back on the candidate side of things as well...
Daddys-Lil-eSlut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:31 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That happens rarely. Iโve had people miss phone interviews with me and I just never call them again.
Fuckpolicy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:24 on February 25, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I totally love this. I had a manager look at what I had worked on, and she began talking shit about it not knowing I had done the work. I kept my mouth shut and let her talk shit until i felt like telling her she just said all that about my work.
Doncale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:02 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Offering excuses very quickly escalates into lying. I see so many people whoโs default reaction is to lie about everything.
gmilk20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:14 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Agree, if itโs not necessary to say, itโs necessary not to say it.
292to137 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:58 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to shit on your great story OP but this doesnโt bode well for the company. This could be a red flag that things are not being run well there.
Reykjavik_Witch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:20 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Omg, I so need to learn to do that.
clarketl29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:54 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Also works great in negotiating with money. Buying a car. Say your price, then wait. Negotiating salary? Put it in the table and wait. Most people are conditioned to be averse to silence in stressful situations and youโd be surprised at how often theyโll end up talking themselves into the number you want.
AdditionalSomewhere2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:12 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I always refer to one of my favourite quotes, โIf you'd kept your mouth shut we might have thought you were cleverโ
nyccollin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:32 on February 26, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This has already been posted on r/youshouldknow
llbrandonsmithll ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:47:19 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, the โlie through omissionโ technique
ThatSmokedThing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:30 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a true Life Pro Tip. I've failed to use it on a few occasions and regretted it, but I learned from it.
brenneckfields ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:52 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Do as I say, not as I do, eh?
Harkat64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:38 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When in doubt, shut your mouth
Coloted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:18 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
They may have made up the โcomputer problemsโ excuse to avoid telling you that the other candidates sucked and theyโre still looking.
OptimusMatrix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:27 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As a loan officer I will say this is absolutely true. Don't tell me what you're really planning on doing with that home equity loan because if it's something outside our guidelines I'm not gonna tell you, I'm just going to notate what you said in the application and wait for the inevitable denial. It's pretty funny when they tell me too much, and we all laugh around the office about the oversharing that our customers tell us about their money.
RealityRifte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This might be the best advice on this sub.
Melrob17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:54 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
As an individual who's been on the "he" side of a "he said/she said" dispute involving cops, investigators, and other bullshit,this is super important. You can quickly and easily incriminate yourself trying to defend yourself. Sit down, shut your mouth, and get the proper authorities involved to keep the shit far from the fan.
ckellingc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:36 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
When I left the banking industry a year or so ago, I had a 1-on-1 with the VP of my department. She asked what caused me to want to leave. I told her my reasons, but then she asked me who did these things. Even though I was leaving, I did not drop names. I'm not giving you a target, its your job to keep the department running.
If I gave her names, she could have a very targeted approach, and other people doing bad things might get away with it. Rather, now she knows that theres shit going on in the department and she needs to look at all levels in our department.
pepelepepelepew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:00 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I am usually late to work but I never offer excuses. If I even get asked about it I say I'm sorry and I get straight to work. I have a coworker who isn't late nearly as often as I am but he offers excuses every time.
My managers complain about his tardiness and never mine. I think it has to do with perception. First they hear his dumb excuses and they are never good, that sticks in your mind. Second it looks like I don't give two fucks and as long as I am a productive employee the management values that over 10-20 minutes.
It is a lot harder to act like a tough boss to an employee who doesn't give a fuck than one who is a grovelling little biatch.
T_Davis_Ferguson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:09 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
thematgreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:33 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I never volunteer information with employers. I'll given pertinent info when needed, but otherwise I don't share...with anyone. I worked at my last job for 8 years, nobody but my one friend, knew I was married, or anything. My desk was devoid of any personal effects to avoid personal conversations, and I didn't participate in anything if I could avoid it.
When I was going on paternity leave I just said I was taking a vacation and got my work spread to back ups, and was then gone for three months. Nobody knew why, and when I came back I shared one picture.
I would bust my ass for anyone when it came to work related stuff. I was friendly, would say good morning, and would chat as long as wanted about work. I'd listen to people who needed to talk, I just didn't share anything personal.
Why? Because at a previous job I was far more friendly. A girl got offended that I didn't let her take over a conversation and went to HR and said I threatened her with a knife. They built a case against me because I mentioned I liked playing GTA: San Andreas, collected swords and knives, and things like that as "proof". There was no proof, I never did that, but I was fired.
It taught me a valuable lesson. Always be professional, always have a great work ethic, be professionally friendly and approachable, and just keep your trap shut.
mediumraresacrifice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:42 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather be honest
venuswasaflytrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a good life Pro tip, but also a big part of the reason why things suck.
It's like saying "don't clean up a mess that isn't yours". It works in principle, but the reality is that we're all constantly making small messes that we don't realise. If we don't habitually try to improve things that weren't our fault, then everything slowly goes to shit.
Similarly, by not being honest with the job, it's possible that someone else is getting a little bit of shit for the phone system causing problems when it was actually not that.
And even if they're not getting shit, they're still working with bad information. Now they might be thinking "well I can't be that setting we changed, because we changed it last night, and it's still dropping calls in the morning, better keep working".
If we all have more (relevant) information, then the world works better. Everything runs smoother. Purposely not sharing knowledge or information for the possibility of self advancement is akin to to saying "I won't pick up that litter because my hand might get dirty".
FelonRusk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:31 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a tip. Don't sleep thru your appointments. Maybe try not to stay up all night gaming and hitting the bong
swinetoucher ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:42:01 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to: Never spread knowledge. Never grow others. Never brainstorm. Never innovate. Sure. Follow this advice.
Being concice and presice is important. But hiding info is not far from lying.
I am a software engineer. The hardest concepts to grasp can be explained in two sentences.
But if you want to have people understand them faster - you have to talk with them verbosely. And boy do you need that if you want your company to survive.
Remember. We have no enemies. Ultimately we want to help each other.
Being altruistic is the highest virtue.
And sometimes uninportant to you information can change someones life.
relykdota ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 02:09:34 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This should be a ULPT. You are the type of scum who lie to your employer during interviews then end up being literal horseshit at the job - assuming you show up.
1NS4N3_person ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:15:29 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: if you schedule a morning phone interview with someone and they miss it, then offer an empty apology. Don't hire them because they are probably lazy. Thanks kids
MangiaBene_StareBene ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:46 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is a stupid fucking subreddit with stupid fucking advice.
Us3ri2e ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:10:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I want my kids to learn, excellent LPT. You learn more and save face when you allow other to do the talking, I've found others are more than willing to fill the void. I never make an excuse if I'm late, just apologize and move forward... It works!
shmorsho ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:37:35 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
How I got my current job:
Boss: whatโs your GPA?
Me: My graduate GPA was 3.9.
This is true. But my undergrad GPA was less than a point lower. But Iโve worked my ass off, Iโve exhibited better work ethic than anyone else in my department, and Iโve brought up morale while doing so.
Heโs seen that Iโm a leader, a diligent worker, and a strong addition to his team.
If youโre going to BS, live up to it.
dasbrutalz ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:06:49 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This, so much this.
Two-fold if you don't know what you're talking about. All too often I see people try to keep talking to prove they know something, when they very clearly don't. Naturally you end up digging a nice hole because it's obvious, no matter how good of a bull-shitter you are, that you have no idea what you're talking about.
PrimePCG ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:03:21 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Best tip in months. Keep your mouth shut. Listen instead of talk.
pm-ur-fav-porn-vid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
You have two ears and only one mouth. Listen more than you speak
GoTakeYourRisperdal ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:53:53 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is the entire premise of the game of poker.
cutejg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:56:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That's one of the first rules in the book The 48 Laws of Power, which is an amazing read as it cites moments in history where those Laws were applied.
S1RWEE5Y ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:08:06 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Something similar happened to me. I applied to two grad schools. I was waitlisted to my second choice school because I gave them a second choice of study(checked an extra box).
Just found out today I got in to my more completive first choice school with a nearly identical application that just didn't include that second choice.
oneheadedboy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:02 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
That almost certainly has more to do with random chance associated with the preferences of the person who reads the application than it does with whether or not you checked a box. I got turned down by a couple of middling state schools for my PhD while also getting admitted to an ivy and a few other top 20s; it just happens.
spacecock-nope2nope ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:01:22 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This is not a common situation. Thinking about it. If you were scheduled to interview somebody and they didnโt call/show/answer, called you hours later with a brief apology and no explanation, and then asked you to reschedule, what would you think? Iโm not so sure that it wouldnโt bias my opinion of their interview. I would rather be honest, vulnerable, and personable in an interview than stoic.
Also, this person just rescheduled their interview. Doesnโt mean they got a job or that they people interviewing them were pumped about how they handled it.
PacoPacoLikeTacoTaco ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:19:48 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
A better LPT might be if you seriously want a job, donโt sleep through the interview.
555_Im_666 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:34:14 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Learnt this the hard way, I put in for a promotion at work. Had an interview and pretty much told them I would be looking to move on from the company within a year or so as I wanted to experience and do different things. The only other person who applied for the position said nothing of the sort and got hired. Problem is she has a one way ticket out of the country in two months time. Management still don't know about it though. I was too honest.
Marswonthappen ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:40:47 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs right everyone, practice as little integrity and honesty as possible. Youโll fit right in with todayโs predatory culture.
JoeyDee9 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:09:04 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
This actually bit me on the butt once back in undergrad. I slept through a final, emailed the professor that I missed it (didnโt say why), and got a response asking for more information. Was super brief and just said I slept through it unknowingly and if we could reschedule. I was literally told that if the reason wasnโt medical he was lowering my A to a C and wasnโt offering anything else. Learned the hard truth that day that in the real world itโs better to just lie than to tell the truth when it benefits you and doesnโt harm others.
laurax112 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:06:59 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
Never apologise, never explain!
LLotZaFun ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)*
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FrumosUniverse ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 00:54:10 on February 20, 2020 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: donโt do that especially with cops (depending)