? And WoW has several thousand quests. That doesn't make a compelling argument for why the game is a shoehorn and not at all relevant to the story in your eyes
It's definitely Ava. Or Skuld, if anyone from that game. Not strelitzia. Strelitzia literally dies in KHUX and that's her heart in the clouds. There's just no way the girl Axel and Saix are after is her.
Yes but this is KH. How many people have actually died and stayed dead in this game? Plus since she lost her heart, itโs possible she formed a nobody and if she did have a novody, she could easily come back as a somebody once it and the heartless was destroyed.
*Ansem literally says he let the girl go. There's basically no reason to hold the truth back from them, and if he wanted to hurt them, he could have said he killed her.
Strelitzia is dead in KH3 and has been dead since KHUX waiting to come back. That still makes it pretty damn clear that she isn't the one who Lea and Isa are after
Okay I just rewatched the scene and Ansem SOD never said he let her go. He says that real Ansem hid her. But either way, this doesnโt rule out that it could be Strelitzia. Thereโs honestly nothing that confirms sheโs 100% dead (not coming back). Yes she lost her heart but so did a lot of other people (Eraqus, Xehanort, all nobodies, Sora). The only one who didnโt come back in some form was that first random NPC that lost his heart in traverse town from KH1
"After Xehanorts heartless retrieves Ansem from the dark realm, it is revealed that Ansemm actually let the girl go, and that her location is unknown to him."
Christ dude. It rules out that it's Strelitzia because Strelitzia is the person who HAS BEEN DEAD since KHUX and is STILL in the sky world.
Iโm guessing this is from the reports? If it is, my bad, I havenโt read them all yet. Anyways, Iโm not saying that the girl is 100% Strelitzia or that it 100% is not Skuld. All Iโm trying to say is that it isnโt IMPOSSIBLE for it to be Strelitzia. For example, what if he let her go and then she somehow lost her heart? (Not saying that I think this is what happened)
For all we know, the star might not even be Strelitzia
This the first i've heard those two mentioned as well, my goodness this girl could be anyone that the rate this is going, how many years til KH4 you think?
Ava is a member of the Foretellers, AKA the group that showed up at the end of KH3, though she wasn't with them at the time. Here's an official render of her. All of the Foretellers are prominent in KHUX, and Ava is the cutest and arguably most important out of them all.
Skuld is seemingly less important, but is in a position that suggests she will probably be one of the big movers and shakers later on. She's the girl to the right in this image and I like her a lot.
I'm pretty sure that Sora is at the least semi-illiterate. He doesn't read the Winnie the Pooh book, he is transported into it. He collects the reports, but there is no evidence that he actually reads them. Hell, he even outsources his journal writing to a sharply dressed insect.
Real talk, I learned a shitton of words from KH. Granted, I was like 6 when I first played it, so there were a lot of words to learn. But KH1 gets credited for bizarre, traverse, terminus, among others
I always think of the bit from Futurama, when the lost city of Atlanta was sinking.
"Knowing their fate, the quality people ran away. Ted Turner, Hank Aaron, Jeff Foxworthy, The Guy Who Invented Coca-Cola, the Magician, and the other so-called gods of our legends. Though gods they were--
(Someone is seen pushing through the crowd to get on the ship)
I remember Luxord taught me a few words when he said โA veritable maelstrom of avariceโ, he didnโt disappoint with โyour celerity is admirableโ in KH3, I thought it was a misspelled โcelebrityโ at first
Do you remember in what scene they pronounce his name? I want to see it since I don't remember where it was but I don't want to watch the whole game again just for that, lol
Way back in the KH2 days when folks were using the Japanese pronunciations of things, that's when I think I learned how things were supposed to be.
Stuff like Maruusha and Rukusodu, so I expected Luke-sore-d. In fact, hearing Xigbar as Zig-bar in DDD was a surprise, i thought it was pronounced Shigbar given the romanization.
he didnโt disappoint with โyour celerity is admirableโ in KH3
Someone didn't play Dark Age of Camelot - melee haste buffs in general were referred to by the name of the earliest unlocked - "celerity".
I love that RPGs teach you words though. Back in the day playing FF7 taught me plenty of words, especially since the game was purely text-based with no VA so you had to look them up to know how they were pronounced.
Oh my god, that was an actual word? I thought it was just some terrible way of writing "you, who also ran away from Organization (like Roxas and Xion)."
kolaida ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:30 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This was how I interpreted it also. I had no idea it was a real word.
It's really not obscure at all. It's not used in everyday speech, but it's a fairly common pejorative. I don't think you can call any term with millions of Google search results obscure.
๐๏ธ uknownada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:12 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sure I can, because those pages would also yield results for "also" and "ran", which are super common words. If you only search for "also-ran" verbatim, you get a little over 6 million. Still a lot but way less results than many other words.
tyriancross ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 03:00:34 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i straight up thought he was namedropping another character or something
smh xemnas why your slang gotta be so obscure
shoot998 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 06:45:25 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
You're such a feckless neophyte
SoraForBestBoy ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:33:53 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Dude loves to give monologues, Xemnas being obscure is part of his life
But yeah I thought it was that girl referenced a few times by Ansem, Ansem the Wise, Lea and Saรฏx before
Redtutel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:29:45 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I always liked Xemnas sure, but after Kingdom Hearts III put all the Xehanorts together, I realized he was my favorite Xehanort
marsil602 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:13:58 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Throw me a bone, was "The Girl" Xion or more KHUX shoehorning with Sterletzia? (sp?)
Nishikigami ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:49:42 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you refer to it as "shoe horning"?
Because you didn't wanna play it lol?
marsil602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:25 on March 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
800+ missions is a little daunting for a new player, forgive me
Nishikigami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:16 on March 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
? And WoW has several thousand quests. That doesn't make a compelling argument for why the game is a shoehorn and not at all relevant to the story in your eyes
marsil602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:49 on March 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you're not forgiving me then
andylong1014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:46 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Not Xion. Most people think itโs Strelitzia
Aqua_Wren ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:44:00 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโd say most people think skuld personally.
Strelitzia is probably the nameless star.
KeybladeSpirit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:56 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Just for the sake of completeness, the other suspects are Ava and Skuld.
Nishikigami ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:10 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's definitely Ava. Or Skuld, if anyone from that game. Not strelitzia. Strelitzia literally dies in KHUX and that's her heart in the clouds. There's just no way the girl Axel and Saix are after is her.
andylong1014 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:05 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but this is KH. How many people have actually died and stayed dead in this game? Plus since she lost her heart, itโs possible she formed a nobody and if she did have a novody, she could easily come back as a somebody once it and the heartless was destroyed.
Nishikigami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:54 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
*Ansem literally says he let the girl go. There's basically no reason to hold the truth back from them, and if he wanted to hurt them, he could have said he killed her.
Strelitzia is dead in KH3 and has been dead since KHUX waiting to come back. That still makes it pretty damn clear that she isn't the one who Lea and Isa are after
andylong1014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:12 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean Xemnas said he let the girl go? I only remember absent talking about the girl
Nishikigami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:17 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Same difference. But Apprentice Ansem is more like Xemnas than Ansem.
And if it's Ansem the wise, you still get my point.
andylong1014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:21 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Okay I just rewatched the scene and Ansem SOD never said he let her go. He says that real Ansem hid her. But either way, this doesnโt rule out that it could be Strelitzia. Thereโs honestly nothing that confirms sheโs 100% dead (not coming back). Yes she lost her heart but so did a lot of other people (Eraqus, Xehanort, all nobodies, Sora). The only one who didnโt come back in some form was that first random NPC that lost his heart in traverse town from KH1
Nishikigami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:54 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
"After Xehanorts heartless retrieves Ansem from the dark realm, it is revealed that Ansemm actually let the girl go, and that her location is unknown to him."
Christ dude. It rules out that it's Strelitzia because Strelitzia is the person who HAS BEEN DEAD since KHUX and is STILL in the sky world.
andylong1014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:52 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm guessing this is from the reports? If it is, my bad, I havenโt read them all yet. Anyways, Iโm not saying that the girl is 100% Strelitzia or that it 100% is not Skuld. All Iโm trying to say is that it isnโt IMPOSSIBLE for it to be Strelitzia. For example, what if he let her go and then she somehow lost her heart? (Not saying that I think this is what happened) For all we know, the star might not even be Strelitzia
marsil602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:45 on March 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This the first i've heard those two mentioned as well, my goodness this girl could be anyone that the rate this is going, how many years til KH4 you think?
KeybladeSpirit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:25 on March 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Ava is a member of the Foretellers, AKA the group that showed up at the end of KH3, though she wasn't with them at the time. Here's an official render of her. All of the Foretellers are prominent in KHUX, and Ava is the cutest and arguably most important out of them all.
Skuld is seemingly less important, but is in a position that suggests she will probably be one of the big movers and shakers later on. She's the girl to the right in this image and I like her a lot.
Santana_Art ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:05:34 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
knowing Nomura he is going to make "Alsoran" a character in Kingdom Hearts 4
_jvc123 ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 03:12:36 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Xemnas is a walking thesaurus.
Daisuke322 ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 05:09:56 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
remember this line:"As your flesh bears the sigil, so your name shall be known as that of a Recusant."
TribalMolasses ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 11:27:46 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
"Pffft fucking nerd" - Sora, probably
declanrowan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:14:28 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure that Sora is at the least semi-illiterate. He doesn't read the Winnie the Pooh book, he is transported into it. He collects the reports, but there is no evidence that he actually reads them. Hell, he even outsources his journal writing to a sharply dressed insect.
Rutgerman95 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:38:29 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
In his defense, when have you ever heard or read the word 'recusant' before?
bhare418 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:27 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he canโt count and is like a sixth grade dropout so it wouldnโt be shocking if he couldnโt read
SoraForBestBoy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:39:19 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
โYoUโrE nUtSโ
NharaTia ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 08:50:37 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
For those that don't wanna look it up, "also-ran" means someone who loses in a competition (like a race), especially by a large margin.
SoraForBestBoy ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 11:35:45 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
I hope Kingdom Hearts continues to use these obscure words/terms in the future, recusant was a word I didnโt know until Xemnas used it
XPeaceChill ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:42:34 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Real talk, I learned a shitton of words from KH. Granted, I was like 6 when I first played it, so there were a lot of words to learn. But KH1 gets credited for bizarre, traverse, terminus, among others
declanrowan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:23:28 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I always think of the bit from Futurama, when the lost city of Atlanta was sinking.
"Knowing their fate, the quality people ran away. Ted Turner, Hank Aaron, Jeff Foxworthy, The Guy Who Invented Coca-Cola, the Magician, and the other so-called gods of our legends. Though gods they were--
(Someone is seen pushing through the crowd to get on the ship)
And also, Jane Fonda was there."
PT_Piranha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:14 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I canโt believe Xemnas is into NASCAR.
Mozilla_Fennekin ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 03:02:48 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Glad that Kingdom Hearts is still teaching me new words after all this time.
SoraForBestBoy ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 11:31:46 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I remember Luxord taught me a few words when he said โA veritable maelstrom of avariceโ, he didnโt disappoint with โyour celerity is admirableโ in KH3, I thought it was a misspelled โcelebrityโ at first
marsil602 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:16:46 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of off-topic, but was anyone else blown away by Sora's pronunciation of LOOX-ERD? I've been saying lux like the khux currency this whole time
alishock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:11 on March 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Do you remember in what scene they pronounce his name? I want to see it since I don't remember where it was but I don't want to watch the whole game again just for that, lol
marsil602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:46 on March 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was before the boat race in Caribbean
Magic_warlock0- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:05:36 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Way back in the KH2 days when folks were using the Japanese pronunciations of things, that's when I think I learned how things were supposed to be.
Stuff like Maruusha and Rukusodu, so I expected Luke-sore-d. In fact, hearing Xigbar as Zig-bar in DDD was a surprise, i thought it was pronounced Shigbar given the romanization.
Mozilla_Fennekin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:05:30 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
"A veritable maelstrom of avarice" is low-key one of my favorite quotes from this series.
declanrowan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:17 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It is the third time I have come across it. Once when studying for standardized tests, once in Final Fantasy Record Keeper, and then KH3.
PupperDogoDogoPupper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:56 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Someone didn't play Dark Age of Camelot - melee haste buffs in general were referred to by the name of the earliest unlocked - "celerity".
I love that RPGs teach you words though. Back in the day playing FF7 taught me plenty of words, especially since the game was purely text-based with no VA so you had to look them up to know how they were pronounced.
WhyThinkSmall ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:41:43 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, he wasn't talking about the celery in the background? I swear it was right after Donald said something about some indeintsch.
๐๏ธ uknownada ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 02:44:45 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
Context: Xemnas called
XionLea "also-ran" and nobody knows what it means so the Google results are really high around a week of KH3's release.nightstarred ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:52:39 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
he was calling Lea that
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:29 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
He goes by "Axel" again now. Got it memorized?
nightstarred ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:33 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
until jiminys entry doesn't say axel/lea I will call him however I want
Iceberg_monster ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 06:51:05 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Xehanort: Feckless neophyte.
Me: What.
PineappleLimonov ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:30:45 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
The word feckless makes me feel uncomfortable
metaherometa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:26 on March 15, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
i always do a double take
PupperDogoDogoPupper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:35 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Mr. Smarty Pants way of calling you a noob, lol.
Azynterrus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:04:06 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, that was an actual word? I thought it was just some terrible way of writing "you, who also ran away from Organization (like Roxas and Xion)."
kolaida ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:30 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
This was how I interpreted it also. I had no idea it was a real word.
Daisuke322 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:08:41 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
did anyone else look up denouement with marluxia and recusant with xemnas/youngxehanort???
Hordaki ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:16:21 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I did for recusant, but I already knew denouement thanks to Lemony Snicket
Daisuke322 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:18:41 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah the snicket books really helped my vocabulary too. Like that's how I learned the word penultimate
suorastas ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:15:34 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Being a fan of Formula 1 I thought also-ran was a very common term. At least in racing it is.
Flameman1234 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:20:50 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Lest we forget " A Veritable Maelstrom of Avarice."
FourEyesWhitePerson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:39:46 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm about to start calling my friends also-ran just for the hell of it
marsil602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:32 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Didnt he use this word in one other game too? Possibly Dream Drop?
Sigils and such
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 03:32:45 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
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ZeroSora ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:44:03 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. It's not a term that is used in everyday speech.
youarebritish ยท -28 points ยท Posted at 05:49:27 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
It's really not obscure at all. It's not used in everyday speech, but it's a fairly common pejorative. I don't think you can call any term with millions of Google search results obscure.
1kingdomheart ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:57:32 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
I have literally never heard it before KH3, and I'm a pretty voracious reader too. It's not common at all.
jrw777 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:46:38 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
r/iamverysmart
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:58:52 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)*
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KilvenDeneras ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:51:07 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
We're just a bunch of intellectual also-rans
๐๏ธ uknownada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:12 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Sure I can, because those pages would also yield results for "also" and "ran", which are super common words. If you only search for "also-ran" verbatim, you get a little over 6 million. Still a lot but way less results than many other words.
SamAsh07 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:31 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
Guess it all depends on your background and where you're from.
Takfloyd ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:52 on March 14, 2019 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that obscure, Kingdom Hearts fans are just not the kind of people who are likely to major in English.