๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 930 points ยท Posted at 20:51:38 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I know a fair amount of these stories are feasible to explain and are basic coincidences at most, but hear me out. This may be long, but I was thoroughly disturbed last night at work, and it seems like a glitch for me to have even found this subreddit the day after my experience. Let me just say that I am known to be a pretty observant guy. All my friends and family who know me even slightly well are aware that I notice everything. It is pretty hard to slip something past me. Not to say I'm proud, or a cocky asshole or anything, but it's just a little background into me before you read this long ass story. Thank you.
I have worked at this sandwich joint for over a year and a half. We run a tight knit crew. I am a good employee, in good standing with the owner and manager, and I am a little bit of a night crew manager myself. The restaurant itself is very slow, as we tend to receive maybe 20-30 customers within my entire 6-7 hour closing shift. This means that I naturally tend to start conversations with customers. I like to figure out where people work their day jobs, where they went to college, how their lives are, and all that stuff. You could say I get personal, but hey, people like it when you're not just a robotic employee. I even met a dude who went to Berkeley Law school and he told me a lot about life and school and all that, but that's neither here nor there. Anyway, I like to talk to people! It gets me through the days you know? And generally people are pretty damn nice about it.
I even have a mini little arsenal of conversation progression. "Just headed home after a long days work huh? Nice, where do you work at? Oh that sounds cool, did you need a degree for that? Oh nice where'd you go to college? Did you like it there?"...Most conversations are extended versions of that, and it usually gets interesting hearing about such diverse backgrounds.
About a week or so ago, this man came in. I would say early 30s, dark hair, dark features. Sweatpants, a Nike sweatshirt and hood up. It was late at night, say 9:30ish, and I was ready to close this bad boy up and get home, but had another half hour to kill. So I said screw it, let's start a conversation with this guy. Maybe his dad is like a congressman or something cool, maybe I'll learn something from him.
Holy hell, this guy was creepy as shit. He wouldn't meet my direct eyeline. He would talk to me by looking above, or between my eyes. He kept his left hand tucked in the back of his pants' waistline. I realize that sentence is a bit hard to visualize, but the best visual I can give is like when people tuck a gun on the back of their pants...it was like he was clutching a gun. He kept his hand there the entire time. He was looking nervous and reluctant, as most people who commit robberies do, and as the sandwich making process progressed, I was becoming more and more sure that I was about to be robbed. He asked for a ham sandwich on white bread. The way we lay the ham is pretty formulaic, but due to his creepy demeanor, I was admittedly feeling nervous. The 8 slices of ham ended up being folded over at different ratios, laid on top of each other sloppily, and did not look like too appetizing of a sandwich. The man asked for swiss cheese. The formula calls for 4 slices, so, as I ALWAYS do, I picked up a stack of the triangularly cut cheese and fan it all out in such a way where I can grab 4 and throw the rest back into the pile. I lay the cheese in a less than orderly fashion, and the sandwich is still clearly missing its picture perfectness that you see on TV. ----These details may seem irrelevant, but I just want you to know the gist of it, you'll see why.----- The man asked if I could toast his sandwich. This means that I would have to turn my back to him for a few seconds to throw it in the toaster.
I was running a lot of shit through my mind, and I was not prepared to turn my back to him. This caused a mini-sort of panic, and I grabbed his sandwich and attempted to stand in such a way where I could keep my eye on him with my waist twisted enough to get the sandwich in the toasted, but still be looking at him. As you may have guessed...I dropped it. I dropped the sandwich. I made a basic attempt to catch it as it fell, you know? Kinda like flared my knee up and tried to use my waist as a sort of cushion to hold up my elbow to catch the sandwich, but to no avail. (I guess just imagine fumbling with your phone and the weird motions your body makes in attempt to catch it right as you realize you dropped it, you get the idea.)
I was panicing hardcore. SPLAT! In the few seconds before I looked up, I was bracing myself for a very angry creep staring at me. But he was gone. He had left. He vanished. I didn't even HEAR the squeak of the door, the footsteps, nothing. I ran outside, I looked left, looked right, looked left again, and no cars were driving away. No cars were even remotely parked close enough for him to be hiding in or behind. He was just gone. The sandwich was still on the ground, fallen faced down, one of the triangles of cheese landed in just perfect angular contrast with the tiles of the floor. Of the 8 pieces of ham on the sandwich, 6 were left betwixt the bread and the floor, while 2 pieces flew off and landed adjacent to the cabinet on top of which the toaster is located.
Fast forward to last night. A man much older than the first comes in. I would say 60s, white hair, dark features, probably about 6'6". Was probably the "tall, dark and handsome" type dude in the 70s or something. Pretty nice man, up until he started ordering his sandwich. Fuck, I just got chills typing that last sentence because I have no idea how to proceed with the story. It just gets unsettling for me.
He ended up asking for white bread. I started to carry on my casual conversation..."How's your night going sir? Just getting off work?" The man answered with a stern affirmative and offered no other information. Okay..clearly this guy didn't want to talk about anything other than his sandwich...weird. "What kinda sandwich for ya sir?" "Ham."
Alright..pretty stern guy. No nonsense. Maybe he's like in the mafia or some shady shit and he got nervous when I asked about work, alright fine. Let me make your sandwich and you can get outta here man.
He then reaches behind his waist...IN THE EXACT SAME FUCKING WAY THE FIRST GUY DID. I SWEAR TO GOD THE GESTURE AND MOTION WERE THE EXACT SAME SMOOTHNESS, TIMING, AND FORM. He kept his left hand there the exact same way the other man did about a week ago. THE SAME WAY. Everything started eerily coming back to me now. It was like the most jolting deja vu moment I had ever had, and I honestly thought it was just that, deja vu.
But wait, there's more. The way I ended up laying the ham looked very very familiar. The distance between each slice, the way each layer peeled off the stack in ratio to the next, the way the slices folded over. I can honestly swear to you that I was building the same fucking sandwich that I built just a week ago. I was having one of those moments where a bunch of shit just passes through your mind all at once, and it's actually kind of surprising just how many thoughts you can have in such a short amount of time. But, I remember telling myself to take the risk, and just reach for the swiss, because I just had the feeling.
"How did you know I wanted Swiss?" I was taken aback. HE ACTUALLY WANTED SWISS. How in the world do I pass it off as a lucky guess? Well, exactly how you would think!
"Lucky guess" I uttered as I let out a meager, pathetic little chuckle.
The man proceeded to say the most spine chilling thing I had ever heard. I read stories on reddit about paranormal or weird shit happening to people...There's actually an AskReddit thread about it right now! I always see variations of the quote "chill down my spine" and have never really experienced that.
I fucking experienced that last night.
The man looks at me as if I told him I knew the winning lottery number for the next win. Very inquisitive look. VERY, VERY strong sense of passion in his words when he said this:
"No...seems like you've...done this before."
HE JUST CALLED OUT MY DEJA VU. He just confirmed that he was aware of my deja vu. At this point, the phrase time traveler just made its first entrance into my mind. I looked at him with the most ridiculously awe-struck impression. I sat there staring at him for a good 5 seconds before I laid the cheese. It was a surreal moment.
It was like the climax of this confrontation had already happened, but I still needed to lay the cheese and veggies, roll the sandwich up and then ring him in at the register. How much creepier is this gonna get? I just didn't get it. I picked up the cheese in the exact same way I always do, fan out the top 4 slices, and lay them down. I was looking down at the same sandwich I had built a week prior. I swear to you the cheese, the bread, the ham, everything was just uncannily similar.
I credit, myself to be a rational dude, so at this point I was just calling it deja vu and trying not to feel disturbed. The man said "Just lettuce and mayo, no toast"
Hmm..phew, not toasted. THANK THE GOOD LORD. He didn't want it toasted, this fucking deja vu is over, and its all just a coincidence right?
Well, some of you all may not know, but there is a thing called a hot food tax in some places, therefor when a sandwich is toasted, there is a button for hot food taxation and its something like 12 cents. So as a force of habit, I read the order back to the customer in this fashion:
"Alright sir, so a ham sandwich, not toasted, with a bag of chips and 2 cookies?"
He looked VERY concerned with why I mentioned it was not toasted.
"Hmm, why did you have to specify that it's not toasted?"
Then I explained to him what I said above, all about the hot food tax and blah blah, force of habit because if a sandwich is toasted, you repeat the order like "Alright a ham sandwich, toasted, with a chips and a drink" or something like that.
After explaining that to him, he was just like kinda inquisitive about it, nothing too weird. I didn't want to keep him any longer, so I took his card, swiped it, and could not wait for him to get the fuck out.
As he walked out the door, he looked back at me with the creepiest fucking smile you can conceive in your reddity imaginations. He turns around, and says what I honestly do not think I will ever forget.
"Just to let you know, I didn't not toast the sandwich because of the tax, I'm not that much of a cheap bastard."
Okay, the guy is trying to lighten the mood right? Sweet, yeah I know he's not a cheap bastard, I mean, it's 12 cents. But he felt the need to tell me the real reason he didn't get it toasted.
"I just didn't want you to drop it." And just like that, he was gone.
HOLY SHIT I HAVE CHILLS EVERYWHERE. This was without doubt the most spine chilling thing I have ever experienced.
I explained this whole thing to my father and he came up with the idea that these two men were probably father and son, and were just fucking with me and I am making up the rest of the details in my head. Impossible. Do you know know why?
The man who owns the restaurant I work at owns one other. Just one other. Halfway across town. When Guy 1 came in, I was at a store that was about 8 miles away from the store that Guy 2 came in.
The realistic chances of these two men knowing each other, and tracking ME down, finding me across town, and fucking with me like this is impossible. I, and 3 other employees (the manager of both stores, the morning shift leader, and my counterpart, the co-night shift manager) are the only 4 employees that jump between the two stores. The chances of this being a planned and methodically prank is absolutely outrageous.
I have no idea what I experienced but if you actually took the time to read all this, please tell me if this is a legit Glitch In The Matrix.
leafhog ยท 139 points ยท Posted at 23:47:30 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Normal explanation: They were secret shoppers hired by your boss. They had a recording device clipped to the back of their pants, but it doesn't attach well and they have to hold it in place so it doesn't fall. The first guy left because you dropped the sandwich and didn't want to get you in trouble. The second guy was told about you dropping the sandwich and was fucking with you.
Normal Prediction: You will get a report from a secret shopper soon. Ask your boss if it was a secret shopper. They aren't supposed to be that obvious or make you nervous like that.
Glitchy explanation: To travel through time, you need duplicate events to occur. The lining up of quantum signatures allows you to travel from one place to another. Places like retail sandwich chains are great for this because of the repetition. Travelers carry devices that help align similar events. They were reaching behind their back to activate the dead-switch on the device (wouldn't want them to activate accidentally). That is why your sandwich came out the same. This guy didn't want to travel back to the place where you dropped the sandwich so he ordered it a different way.
Glitchy Prediction: You are going to experience a lot more time travelers using your sandwich making skills to travel through time. Keep an eye out.
Ixidane ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 16:51:24 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
The year is 2047. My name is clever_username7. I am the chief sandwich maker and Time Travel Destination Controller of the Time Patrol Corps. These are the stories of those I send back in time.
cue opening theme music for Sandwich Time Travellers
Mofrosho ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:56:59 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Mushroom swiss on rye-mey whimey
leafhog ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:55:58 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I love you.
1b8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:54 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
XD
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:57:59 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
The secret shopper scenario is right on.
leafhog ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:33:40 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
No! I so badly want it to be the time travel via sandwich scenario!
hostess_cupcake ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 21:41:44 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Holy cow! That is creepy as hell. My theory: the sandwich, and you successfully making and selling the sandwich, are the catalyst for a significant future event. When the young time traveler (fresh out of the academy and probably on his first assignment) visited and you dropped the sandwich, it screwed up the timeline. The old time traveler (same guy, with a few years more experience and many lessons learned) had to come back and give you an opportunity to make the same sandwich correctly, therefore correcting the space-time continuum.
doctorbooshka ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 23:21:29 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I would watch that movie.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:18:31 on April 30, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Looper.
Murdock92188 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:22:52 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
First, bravo...great fucking storytelling. Loved every bit of it...even the (what I felt necessary) asides where you justify your in depth detailng.
Secondly, I got some intense /r/frisson with his last line...and I don't ever get that from these. Definitely glitch worthy.
Thanks for sharing!
๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:13:27 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Hey thanks man
littlebrocolis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:46:18 on April 10, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit i'm so hungry right now!!
prodigalqueer ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:55:58 on November 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
The first guy was a troubled young man, intending to commit his first robbery at your store that night. But your reactions spooked him and he fled into the dark, only to bump into a stranger, one who was there to offer him a path different from the one he was currently on. That night, the young man became one of the time travelers that save the earth from disaster behind the scenes.
Years and years later (for him), he came back to you and in his own personal (creepy) way let you know he'd changed since that first night. All because you dropped that first sandwich and set into motion a chain of events that changed his life forever.
Lorinius ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:15:19 on January 4, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
100K, for you if my movie hits big with this ideea.
prodigalqueer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:40:26 on January 6, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Not if mine hits big, first. ;)
Clockwrrk22 ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 23:13:50 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This might be a little off topic, but man do I hate when the people making my food try to start conversations with me.
fishpuddle ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:07:51 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. I'll avoid restaurants with employees that try to make conversation with me. Makes me really uncomfortable and anxious. If I'm getting my hair cut and the stylist realizes that talking is making me uncomfortable and either stays quiet or talks to the other stylists, I'll give them a much larger tip.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:23:04 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I just don't understand that kind of view. I'm not saying it's wrong by any means, or bad, nothing like that. I guess growing up in the south has made me appreciate talking to people. Just today I met a guy from England. England! Here in the middle of the south. I never would have had a neat conversation with the first European I've ever met if I didn't just say "hi, how are ya?"
Please don't think I'm being a jerk or anything. I just have the hardest time picturing myself avoiding places just for the sake of not making small talk.
fishpuddle ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 10:28:06 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more about extroverts and introverts and also about social anxiety than cultural. As an introvert, when in extrovert tries to bombard me with conversation, it feels like my energy is being sucked from me. I have to pretend to enjoy the conversation to not appear rude, but inside I want to run away. I usually have to spend a certain amount of time alone to sort of "recharge."
With social anxiety, it's like that, but much stronger. Not only is there the mental side, but some people will actually have panic attacks or feel or physical symptoms due to it.
So in other words, while one person feels better for having started a conversation with somebody, the person on the receiving end may be going through an internal hell and just wishing it would end.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:05:55 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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MissLena ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:26:59 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I grew up in Southern California, and now live in the Boston area. It took me about a year to figure out how to cut the "weird, overly-friendly behaviors" and quit being "that creepy girl who always smiles all the time." Still, about once a month, someone looks squarely at me and says, "you ahn't from heah originally, ah ya? Ya too nice."
Nope.
MercuryCrest ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:14:39 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
There are times when I'm okay with small talk and times when I'm not. It varies, depending on my mood. I've worked plenty of retail, so I know when small talk pays off and when it definitely doesn't.
PerpetualPuffing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:59:07 on November 22, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
For the stylist thing I do the same, I prefer when they don't talk. It allows them to concentrate on the haircut they're giving me.
Eurydice-osen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:08:52 on November 28, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
It really doesn't at all. Sometimes a customer's silence makes it harder to cut because it's so awkward. And this is coming from a quiet, introverted stylist. It's one thing not to blather on endlessly, it's another thing to be so quiet you make your stylist nervous.
PerpetualPuffing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:15 on November 28, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
It's not like I'm giving a rape stare in the mirror or anything, or am not willing to have conversation. But I want a haircut, I shouldn't be obligated to speak during said haircut.
Eurydice-osen ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:08:24 on November 30, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
A rape stare? Are you kidding me?
PerpetualPuffing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:51:47 on December 1, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
What? You're implying that I make my stylist nervous by not talking. By rape stare, I mean I'm not making a frown with my face and staring directly at her the entire time. Usually I just stare at myself until it's over. Stop acting like I killed a kitten.
poopwithexcitement ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 21:48:50 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Here's my stab at an explanation:
First of all, the first story is not the part that's weird, so I'm going to focus on the second story. I'll try to explain why the deja vu was all in your head.
This has got to be an intentional way of standing to make people nervous. It's not exactly a secret that putting your hands out of sight makes people nervous. That's why we wave to greet people... "Hello! As you can see I do not have a weapon!" These two dudes don't need to be related in any way to both recognize that you can make someone nervous by doing that.
I would venture a guess that swiss is the most common cheese to go on a ham sandwich. The way most people say ham-n-swiss, it's practically one word.
As a side note, he seems to be getting much more talkative at this point. Perhaps he has amused himself by making you so nervous you forgot to ask what type of cheese he wanted?
My sense is that he wasn't calling out your deja vu, he was pointing out that you work in a sandwich shop, and have probably made ham-n-swiss sandwiches for dozens of people.
If my theory is correct, and he was intentionally attempting to make you nervous to amuse himself, then this isn't that weird of a thing to say. Even if he wasn't doing it on purpose, it would have been pretty clear to him that you were unnerved. You were laughing pathetically and putting the ham down sloppily... were your hands shaking when your spine was tingling? That would qualify the comment as utterly explicable to my mind.
EDIT: I'm actually just remembering a bit of psychology that I learned recently: once you're in any specific emotional state (but especially one of fear/anxiety) your brain begins to search through your memory for other instances where you've had those feelings. The brain wants to connect separate experiences so you can learn from the older ones and survive the newer ones.
For example, some premodern man is checking out a new cave, but he's feeling some anxiety because he can't see into the cave. His brain makes the connection that the last time he felt anxiety like this, it was when a big fucking bear attacked him. So as he enters the cave, he has his spear raised, and is ready for whatever he might find.
Anyway, it seems to me that your brain did a great job of connecting the two situations, but - at least from the parts of the story you told in this post - a poor job of preparing you to handle the more recent one better.
nickmista ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:49:13 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a plausible explanation. Its pretty tricky though because while superficially your explanation explains most of the events, OP's post implies many non-verbal situations that probably can't be accurately described through the story.
For example without seeing it first hand we don't know how similar the mans body language was or how similar the sandwich was. These are critical parts of the story and without knowing exactly what happened first hand we're just taking his word for it that they were identical. He may have imagined the situation being more similar than it was as you say, but we can't really tell and have to rely on his description that these situations were identical which is very unnerving.
mrzambaking ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:06:00 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
i've been around a lot of different people for my jobs, first working construction and doing a lot of jobs out of town in different cities each week, then later in a different customer's home every day as a painter, and i feel like there are really only so many different patterns of body language. and it seems to me that people who appear to be similar physically also have similar body language and say the same types of things in the same way. so that in itself isn't all that strange to me, and it sounds more like OP got spooked initially and let his imagination run wild.
the part about "just didn't want you to drop it" seems like he knew about the previous instance, but really it's not that odd a thing to say - it's a sandwich shop, you might worry about the person preparing it dropping it, especially if it's happened to you before.
it's an eerie coincidence, but it's really only creepy if you let yourself imagine there are connections that aren't necessarily there.
it is a fun read though.
Swindel92 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:10:24 on March 6, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
The first guy dissapeared without a trace. He obviously came in for something to eat, why would anyone instantly bail the second OP dropped the sandwich?
sneakypedia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:45 on November 26, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
let yourself imagine
[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 04:45:29 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually a pretty good breakdown. Ruins the "magic" of OPs post, but most of us are here to find the logic in these stories anyways.
sneakypedia ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:37:48 on November 26, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself, Actually_a_wizard.
zamfire ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:11:40 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Most commentors in this sub do their damnedest to "ruin" the magic of the post.
poopwithexcitement ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 23:51:43 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I figure that ruining the magic that can be ruined makes the magic that can't be ruined more magical.
...That sentence had like, a half dozen unique words total.
zamfire ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:14:04 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Very well said. Also, my comment came off a bit abrassive. I meant that it's okay to try to bring logic in it. That was why I used quotation marks.
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 21:53:37 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:02:57 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, I wish it was this simple. But the amount of mental deja vu was too much too ignore.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:34:47 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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mouser42 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:02:49 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
If you think KFC is worth time traveling for, you obviously haven't been to a Bojangles.
HawkLexTrippJam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:59:20 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Or a Church's Chicken, or Popeyes
outroversion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:48:55 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
You see son I, I drinks a bit..
outroversion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:33 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
It is that simple. I know you wish it wasn't, but it is.
ranchdepressing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:02 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I thought he was just stoned. This might be the case, too.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:01:52 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like guy number 1 was going to rob you but didn't really want to. The fact that you took an interest, seemed like a decent guy and he made you nervous made him feel bad and bolt. The second guy came in to check you out after hearing the story from guy number 1 because they work together. He couldn't resist harassing you about it a bit before he left. The fact that it was two different stores doesn't matter because guy number two realized who you were either before or after entering the store, based on description. Would also explain why there was a week in between.
Iamhethatbe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:45:09 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say this is the most rational explanation.
greendippypoo ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:03:53 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
It made me think of a drug deal. The type of sandwich combined with the hand behind the back is the signal that they want to buy more than just a sandwich. The guys know each other because they have the same drug connection, and guy 1 told guy 2 that he tried to pickup but you were the wrong guy and didn't know what was going on, and you dropped the sandwich.
bluesgrrlk8 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:03:33 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Oh this is a good one, any of your co-workers potentially selling more than ham and swiss?
allothernamestaken ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:33:11 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
The weirdest part of this story is how your employer keeps a business operating selling 20 or 30 sandwiches in a shift.
๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:19:26 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Oh tell me about it
allothernamestaken ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:26:42 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I think your boss is in the mafia, not the guy buying the sandwich ;)
CustosClavium ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:02 on April 22, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I'm creeping on old posts, but my last job was at a coffee shopped own by a porn producer/owner of lots of porn sites. In most 8-hour shifts I might have served, on average, 8-15 people during the week.
I am convinced it may have been a front for laundering porn money or maybe something shadier, like prostitution (of said porn stars) or drugs. No way to know for sure.
Kmdick3809 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:46 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Sand itches cost like $1 and are sold do $7-11
allothernamestaken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:25:10 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
$11 per sandwich x 30 sandwiches = $330 per shift. That's not going to keep the lights on, much less pay employees.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:27:49 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Why didn't you check the security camerqs to see how the first man just vanished?
SaxonWitch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:26:33 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This story reminds me that I would loooove a sub about 'aliens in disguise'. There was once a thread on the [fortean times message boardhttp://www.forteantimes.com/forum/], that was so interesting. All about odd people trying to behave like humans but doing something completely wrong, as if they didn't quite know how to be humans. Man I'd really want a sub like that. Actually I might start a thread in /r/askreddit and see what comes up.
toomanyfrogs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:25:53 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Nice, this was a good read, and also pretty weird. Sounds pretty glitchy to me. To hell with people and their logic, I like leaving these things as they are, more fun that way.
prodigalqueer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:46:22 on November 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I'm reading all these rational explanations and getting completely bummed out by them, haha. I'll keep believing OP met a time-traveler with a taste for Subway.
toomanyfrogs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:52 on November 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
As will I. high five for fun story friends
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:54:24 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This would be good for a short little video segment story or something like that. We could embellish it a little too and put it on cable tv.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:29:24 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Dude - Glitch in the Matrix would be an awesome TV show. Have funny little reenactments. Then maybe a panel of celebrity C-listers discussing different possibilities.
floydrose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:33:06 on February 18, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I can picture it now, a sandwich shop lit up like a diner, with snow falling outside under flickering neon lights.
casont111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:38 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
A sketch on vhs 3.
redemma1968 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:49:47 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I'm getting kinda bummed that so many of the comments are of the "debunking" type on these stories. The debunking people in this sub often, especially to a cool weird story like this one, seem to be very reductionist and play down things that happen. I don't know, I'd just much rather read some comments that actually try to make sense of these realities, even if entirely speculative and half-serious, rather than simply dismiss things as coincidence
Drapetomania ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:27 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. It could be like, a leprechaun or something. You just don't know.
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carlgrove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:34 on April 26, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I agree absolutely. My theory is that people are reared in our culture in a kind of mindset that treats all phenomena in a simplistic "either-or" way -- "UFOs are either alien or imagaination," "ghosts are either departed spirits or hallucinations," etc. And this becomes the basis of 90% of debates about unexplained phenomena, just excuses for people to express their prejudices. We need to begin by collecting as many of these cases as we can and then scanning them with a completely open mind for patterns and clues as to what is going on. I have reluctantly concluded that "glitch in the matrix," or "program error," or in general terms "virtual reality" may well be the best explanation.
Drapetomania ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:52 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
So it very well may have been a unicorn -- you just don't know!
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Drapetomania ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:44:52 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
What people are basing things on, is the body of human scientific knowledge and what coheres with our current understand, not "story-telling" "make-belief" through a very anthropic interpretation based on layman and armchair theorizing through the lens of the mythology of undereducated of the day. You wave away the body of "human knowledge" in favor of interpretations made through the lens of the contemporary superstitious person.
Listen, David. You're not on our level. You're not on my level. If you wanna step up, you gotta stick to the realm of fact, not the land of fantasy where goblins and unicorns and leprechauns and magic are likely explanations for (more boring, mundane, and thus less of interest to you) other explanations actually rooted to a coherent understanding of the world around us.
I know you like a good story, a "rousing tale" when bizarro mystery entities are put forth to explain what could be easily explained by well-known and documented forces and phenomenon, but that's not good epistemology, little buddy.
pats your head
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Drapetomania ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:17:34 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
chuckles It's ghosts!
Look, you can write a lot of bullshit and sophistry to pretend you're better in the know or have one up on me or are more sophisticated, but you're arguing that magic, ghosts, and unicorns are possibilities worthy of postulating as explanations for people's personal interpretations of events filtered through faulty human memory... so, who has the high road here? You think, that because the remotest of remote possibilities exist, that all human observation and knowledge could be wrong, that it's okay to bring up magic and fairies and such to explain what someone thinks or claims happened to themselves. But I won't do that, because I'm a bit more keen than you are.
I do. You don't. You are beneath me. You're beneath me. Heh. The shit you're advocating. It's just dumb, man. It's stupid.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:19:46 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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Drapetomania ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:29:01 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I do understand what you're saying. You're saying that some remote possibility exists that it could be time travel, so, let's not discount that as a perfectly valid and reasonable explanation instead of the more mundane explanations that fully cohere with the body evidence of current human understanding--fuck da science, maaaan! You don't know, like, everything, maaaaan. Like, you can't, like, see the wind, man, but you know it's there, ya dig brother? YOU DON'T KNOW THE GUY IN THE SANDWICH SHOP DOESN'T OWN A DELOREAN!
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Drapetomania ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:48:34 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's a lot of words for "there's debate about things in science, therefore, you can't say it's not time travel/god/magic/whatever."
I gotcha. But that's not how it works. Sorry. I've debated enough creationists and purveyors of "woo", and you're just taking a page out of their book. You're trying to pull the whole "hey hey hey now, I'm just a moderate here" while really advocating something nutty and out of this world. If you wanna talk about unicorns and time travel, first, show us how these are more likely or even remotely rational and reasonable explanations that even come close to the explanatory power of coincidence, cognitive errors (memory, misperception, etc), fabrication, or something of the sort.
Instead you pop up, being all silly saying "hey guys! It really could actually be time travel, why don't you give that a fair shake?" There's very good reasons.
You're name dropping all the famous celebrity scientists "Hawking, Einstein, deGrasse Tyson") so you probably fancy yourself as "le scientific redditor" but you're still completely couched in pseudoscience and nonsense and don't really get science or how it works. It's an aesthetic to you, a fashion. A way of thinking about yourself and establishing a self-identity without really grasping why scientists aren't going to take these unicorn or time travel explanations you want to allow for consideration. You just don't understand how while something being remotely theoretically possible doesn't mean it's worth bringing up and mulling over heavily at the current time.
If you wanna consider time travel is really at play here, you're going to have to demonstrate how time travel is possible and how it's a more parsimonious explanation than cognitive error or coincidence. I really don't have the time to explain more in depth what I mean by parsimonious, you're just going to have to investigate that for yourself if you want to me on the same level of understanding that I (and others here) are.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:53:53 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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Drapetomania ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:58:48 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I do understand. You think that this time travel narrative is worth a shake. I'm saying it's not.
I'm not trying to debate you. You don't even have a position. Just sort of an opinion with a fedora, a statement, and utterance; "it could be possibly, stop trying to debunk this!" You don't really have an opinion worth debating. I no longer consider creationism a belief worth debating over, either. I'm sorry. That's just how it is. You don't have anything to stand on.
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Drapetomania ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:04:38 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Since you want to bring up psychology, I went through your posts and I'd like to inform you that psychologists don't actually put any weight into dream interpretation like you do :)
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Drapetomania ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:12 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all of them, those that study cognition, dreams, memory, sleep, and so on. I actually have a degree in psychology, so you pretension isn't amusing. I have actual academic knowledge of that topic right on hand You're just using wishy-washy rhetoric to justify saying stupid things. Guess what? Metaphorically, it's nice to place you into the ballpark I fall into and see you try to make up not only the rules, but try to make up and contradict the actual plays themselves.
Again, you do the whole "experts disagree with each other" which sounds an awful lot like creationists saying, "see? evolutionists argue, they can't even get their story straight." You're just taking the same argument from a different angle.
You're just another sophist running on the whole "nothing is truly certain, therefore, you have to consider whatever baloney I spew out."
You're a wackjob.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:56 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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Drapetomania ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:01 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really care, man. I really don't care about your sophistry. We've heard it all before. Nobody is falling for your shit so you can justify whatever your pet nonsense is. Many of us with actual scientific acumen are well familiar with the behavior and rhetoric of cranks.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:41:12 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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Drapetomania ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:00 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't say you were a creationist; I said you borrow similar-style rhetoric. It really doesn't matter. You're either a pedant or a crank, or both. Nobody really cares about what you have to say, dude. chuckles
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:00 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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Drapetomania ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:58 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Making you spend all day type out long diatribes about how intellectually sophisticated you are was kind of amusing, to be honest.
Drapetomania ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:01:47 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
You've come in here saying "we don't really, like, know what's rational, dude, so why rule out time travel?"
If you make a sandwich, and step out of the kitchen, and there's a bite out of your sandwich when you come back, you assume the bite came from the only other person in the house, not fucking bigfoot.
Quit the pretension, the faux "I'm so open minded, I even consider magic and eldritch forces!" It doesn't make you more nuanced.
You really don't have an opinion worth discussing. You just don't. It's just... stupid.
plinth19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:47 on January 8, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
r/iamverysmart
KuribohGirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:15:20 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I'm thinking it's an experiment by a bunch of bored psych students
TheAmazingParnassus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:31:03 on December 2, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Does your sandwich shop have cameras? maybe you can look at them from the 1st guy's arrival and see he disappeared so quickly!
baniel105 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:30:13 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that's incredible! The only reasonable explanation I can come up with is two guys who are good at reading people and stuff, you know? And so they decide to have some fun by messing with some random guy... but even that is incredibly unlikely (I don't even know if those kinds of people exist :P)! Crazy!
redditor_253 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:00:15 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
"...didnt want you to drop it"
I just laughed AND got the chills really hard. Amazing story.
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[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:01:12 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
i would have said the same, except for the part about not dropping it
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:24:11 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:11:19 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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joannchilada ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:58:15 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
It's just outdated enough for me to picture my dad making that joke
๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:23:51 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man, I am not saying I believe in time traveling matrix glutting bullshit. I really don't. Honestly, I HOPE my dad was right, but the chances are just too little. Some of the more logical explanations here, including yours, are easing my mind...not gonna lie, it feels good.
But there's always gonna be this kind of fear or confusion you know?
casont111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:17 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I literally only read where you brought up the veggies. If this is the same popular sandwich place I worked at then you toast it before you put veggies on it. He dropped it turning to the toaster.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:03 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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casont111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:24 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
They were identical as far as can be determined. If the story is true then it's creepy not because of the identical sandwiches (frankly ham and Swiss with any combination of toppings is going to be very popular) but because of the eerie mannerisms and similarities of the customers and the seemingly clairvoyant remark.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:25:32 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
The first was there to rob you.
The second older guy was the first guys boss (or partner).
How did they know you worked in both shops? They've been casing both places for a while now.
Why did you have such strong deja vu? Because the second guy was intentionally doing the same things the first guy, his employee or accomplice was doing.
The only question here is why? Was he just fucking with you. Was he trying to figure out where the first guy tipped off that you were going to get robbed (i.e., was it when he put his hand behind his back). Or another possibility is that this guy whats you to know for some reason that he knows what happened with the other guy.
So you aren't just imagining it. The first guy was going to rob you. You picked up on that. The second guy for some reason is reenacting the first robbery - why? What could he be trying to gain? That's the mystery.
I'd ask your boss for the CCTV footage of both incidents.
Edit: Its possible that this is also some kind of psychological study.
There are also some eerie parallels between what you are describing and people that claim they have been gang stalked. In fact, now that I think about it you should definitely look up gang stalking - its essentially what happened to you here. Basically two or more people fuck with seemingly a random individual for no discernible rational reason.
YouHad2AskDidntU ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:15:50 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
"So you aren't just imagining it. The first guy was going to rob you. You picked up on that. The second guy for some reason is reenacting the first robbery - why? What could he be trying to gain? That's the mystery."
The second guy was looking for intel: Did OP drop the sandwich to reach for a weapon or button behind the counter?
Oh, Crap. That's actually more scary than Time Traveling. Sorry, OP. Be safe!
Edit: Clarity
MariachiPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:48 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
but how would the first guy and second guy know OP dropped the sammich? when OP looked up, the first guy was gone. the guy who had been there a second before, and the reason why OP didn't want to turn his back.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:24 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
"just imagine fumbling with your phone and the weird motions your body makes in attempt to catch it right as you realize you dropped it, you get the idea.) I was panicing hardcore. SPLAT! In the few seconds before I looked up,"
The guy left while OP was fumbling around with the sandwich. It doesn't take that long to leave a subway. A more important question in my mind is why end a robbery just because someone drops a sandwich. In fact, I think that just made something click for me:
The dude wasn't there to rob him at all. He was just a regular guy that wanted a sandwich. He might have even been stoned. He noticed OP was acting weird as fuck (or is he just imagining it because he is high he asks himself), and when OP dropped the sandwich the dude was like "that's it I'm out." Only later did he talk with his buddy (the 6 foot tall second guy). They talk about the whole thing and realize that OP thought he was getting robbed. They think this is hilarious! So much so that they decide to fuck with him, and they get the good idea to send the second guy in to freak OP out! Haha, now that actually makes a lot of sense to me.
ranchdepressing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:14:17 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Here is my explanation:
Guy #1 is stoned. He is now paranoid and anxious, but god damn is he hungry. His dad, not hungry, waits outside as he orders. Guy #1 whines to his dad that you dropped his sandwich, and is too anxious to deal with the ordering process anymore.
Guy #2 is the dad. He comes in, rather amused by the whole ordeal, re-orders the sandwich, but avoids the toasting debacle by getting an un-toasted sandwich.
They have the same nervous tick because one of them picked it up from the other.
prodigalqueer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:27 on November 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
"re-orders the sandwich, but avoids the toasting debacle by getting an un-toasted sandwich"
A week later? Somebody failed at reading comprehension in high school...
i_fart_niggers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:09:44 on November 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
read the story again dingus
heimeyer72 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:18:09 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
These creepy dudes, father and son, why not. Maybe even older brother and younger brother?
It's possible to find guys who are similar to each other, just different age, and know each other / live together.
Now imagine: The younger one comes home and spills a story: "Dad/Brother, you wouldn't believe it! On the way home I went to this sandwich restaurant in the whatever street to get a quick ham sandwich, you know, white bread and with swiss. The guy working there ticked me off real soon with trying to do smalltalk and I tried to stare him down. Seems that worked too good as they guy became visibly nervous... He even dropped the sandwich when trying to put it in a toaster! Outrageous! Sure I was not about to eat that. The moment he turned away I just vanished the fastest way possible!
You know what? I'll go back tomorrow and give him a 2nd chance!"
The next evening he tells his dad "Looks like the guy quit his job: He wasn't there. F' it, I didn't ask around for him."
Next week, by pure chance, the dad goes to the other of the two shops. Half-conciously remembering what his son said, he orders a ham sandwich. Then he notices how the employee react to him. Now full memory kicks in and he decides to play out the story for the laughs, not really knowing that you are exactly the guy his son encountered.
Hilarity ensues.
How about that? There's still a good amount of coincidence involved but that's to be expected, otherwise such stories would unfold twice a year and not once in a lifetime.
The only thing I have difficulties with is that the first guy seemed to vanish in the blink of an eye and you could not figure out where he went to. Hmm, what if... when the sandwich dropped, you were in a state of shock, your mind racing... ... ... Maybe that moment took longer than you thought, maybe even, the panic numbed out your senses and both together left a few seconds more time for the guy to leave, simply through the door, and run off and you were so concentrated on the sandwich that you didn't hear anything?
Edit: Typos removed.
sneakypedia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:31 on November 26, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I saw this part of the scene play out with the guy looking like Billy Bob Thornton in Fargo.
Dude, this wasn't even a glitch. This is gorgeous. Thanks for sharing. We as a people have barely any clue yet as to what we are capable of but apparantly it's pretty amazing.
haha, maybe he knew you'd post it on reddit? they're finally ready for the message to start spreading more rapidly?
Superbignads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:04 on April 3, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
The cool old dude was shitting on you for being awkward about making a ham and cheese. He said he didn't want you to drop it because you're awkward and made a dumb joke that you would drop it like its hot like the snoop dogg song drop it like it's hot.
clouddevourer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:50 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Um, the only explanation I can think of is that the second guy is the first guy in makeup that makes him look older (he's an actor or something), he noticed you getting nervous, realized you're having a deja vu and decided to creep you out some more. Far-fetched, I know.
skeeto111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:44 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I'm inclined to think father and son fucking with you. Are you near LA by chance? Maybe it was an actor and he came back w prosthetic makeup to seem older.
tamrix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:12 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe some divine intervention or aliens recreated that moment so you could get that sandwich right in order to prevent some sort of butterfly effect which caused a catastrophic event in the future.
Who knows maybe you saved the planet from nuclear war.
askolsunburcu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:19:17 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
But how do you explain this part?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:49 on December 25, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
"I just didn't want you to drop it"
My face dropped never mind the Sandwich!
Iknowdumbshit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:33 on January 6, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Great story your recall is fantastic , the man was a time traveler and he thirty years in the future decided to go back in time and get the sandwich he didn't get the first time. He obviously has a great sense of humor and thought it would be funny to point out that he was in fact the same guy , if you think about it it's pretty dam hilarious.
waXec ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:40:44 on April 15, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Bro I fucking need some of these time traveling sandwiches
๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:28:34 on April 15, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Comin right up m8
Cartime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:07 on April 30, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
u avin a giggle?
outroversion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:52:12 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen a thousand made up stories and this fits that genre well- way too much unnecessary and overly detailed explanation, just way too much and a story that is so mind numbingly full logic says no one would even bother making it up.
I mean when you think about it, this didn't happen.
๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:18:32 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Why would I make this up? I put some effort into the storytelling aspect of it to keep the reader interested and engaged, and yes I like to get a little dramatic. I am a screenwriter, so I have an innate nature to explain details well.
Life is hidden in the details, my friend.
doyouevendownvote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:54 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Wait you're a screenwriter who makes sandwiches?
๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:54 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I have written films, yes.
KuribohGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:36 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Oh whilliam...
outroversion ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:04:03 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what I just said! The story is so ass tearingly boring, why oh why would anyone make it up. Don't ask me why, ask yourself.
heimeyer72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:43 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
So, just to make it clear, you think it isn't made up!?
outroversion ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:57:20 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
arse-tearingly so.
sinwarrior ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:50:54 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
well yeah when shit like this is in the story:
Excerpt 1:
Excerpt 2:
MercuryCrest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:12:35 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I pay VERY close attention to details like that. This doesn't surprise me in the least, if true.
tamrix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:25:17 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy to say a story is fake. Can you give us an example of a story from here that you believe could be real?
1986summerfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:42 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking the same... you know? To me it sounds like somebody's just extremely bored at work and likes to make things up to make the whole routine a bit more interesting.
outroversion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:00:33 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
yes! Exactly. Like this guy probably does work in a subway which is why this is even more made up because like 95% of it is true, you know all the really really boring stuff.
1986summerfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:18 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I've been lurking on this sub for so long that I think I can tell if a story is made up after reading the first two sentences. Doesn't really bother me, I usually just ignore those, but it really baffles me how other people always rise to the bait ;)
outroversion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:08 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
So what do you think about this one?
1986summerfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:46 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
To put it in a nutshell, I think it's bs.
Somebody posted that they think that the manager sent two "difficult" customers to test him, that's the most reasonable explanation... or two people just decided to take the piss out of op for shits and giggles. OR the whole thing is just made up, after all it reads like a scene from a very bad sci fi/horror movie.
Sometimes when I read gitm stories, often the most simple stories, there's something about them that really creeps me out for some reason... not the case here. It comes across as a cheap novelette, thanks to op's unnecessary ramblings.
vaguepagan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:26 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Having worked at a sub sandwich joint two years, the details you point out make me seriously believe you! I know exactly what you are talking about. Not the crazy glitch-time traveler bit, but everything else. We've all had a fair share of strange people. I came very close to being robbed on a morning opening shift. So, yeah, I can relate. You have a right to be freaked out. I sure would have been! Great story!
Edit: spelling
butts-and-nails ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:17 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, this is a creepy story! Are you not doubting yourself if it wasn't a dream or something?
Keurigirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:42 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I literally gasped when he said, "I just didn't want you to drop it". Omg!!! Way creepy!!
GravitySkies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:17 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
A lt of people are trying to explain it, but to me that sounds like its too much to be coincidence.
carnivorous_plant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:43 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Was it in October? My theory: it was the same guy. The first time you saw him, he had a wig or some other altered features that made you think it was 2 different guys. He wasn't in a full Halloween costume, but maybe had a partial costume, like he'd gone to a party earlier and hadn't fully taken his costume off.
His hand was tucked into the back of his pants because he was standing with his hand on his lower back due to terrible back pain. Also, he has Asperger's syndrome so he's not good with eye contact or small talk.
anonagent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:44 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Not to hate man, but honestly it could've been a bit of seeing the future into where you dropped the sandwich, I've experienced that a FUCK ton of times. as for the coincidences tho, I have no clue.
1345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:56 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Were you wearing an occulus?
katihathor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:30 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
That was an enjoyable story. Thanks :) I have no commentary at the moment because I'm still processing it.
Kubrick_Fan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:37 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
waaaait, I think i've...read this story before.
Razzamafoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:48 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Can we get a TL;DR version?
Kmdick3809 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:47 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
It's a glitch!!!!!!
missdingdong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:48 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This one has the ring of truth about it.
BlueGhosties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:54 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Is there cameras you can access?
Kaiosama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:32 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Just out of curiosity, how did you find this subreddit?
Perhaps if these events took place as you believe they did, it might've been intentionally meant for you to not only experience it, but to publicize it in a forum like this that would likely be read worldwide.
Who knows... perhaps you might be affecting someone's life or unknowingly giving them some sort of inspiration just by posting this storyline.
Instead of the event just taking place and that being it, now it's reverberating.
RamonaLittle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:53 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
If you watch Secret Service men standing around POTUS, they all stand and move their arms the exact same way because they've had the same training. So maybe the two guys in your story were in the same profession, or group, or cult, or who knows what, and for whatever reason were both accustomed to standing that way?
OR --
They were both the same guy, but wearing a disguise one or both days. That fits with the theory that he wanted to rob you the first day (which would explain a lot of his behavior and the creepy vibe you were getting).
You're a sandwich guy . . . in a sandwich shop . . . making a ham 'n' swiss. It would be a glitch if you hadn't done this before.
It was an entertaining story in any case. Thanks for posting.
sniggity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:25 on November 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely a time traveler. Any cameras in the store?
Trixsterxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:38 on November 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
who cares this is awesome! have an up-vote, now you have a tale to tell any offspring, the slash slinging slasher! and the magic sandwich.
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:46 on January 4, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Best thing I've read on this sub. Thanks.
helpful_hank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:05 on January 25, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Woooooow.
I'm a mod for /r/FringePhysics (to give you a brief glimpse at where I'm coming from), and wanted to say I believe it's legitimately as weird as it seems. Something operating by laws as yet unknown to science. I have no idea what it was, but I absolutely believe it happened and that your feeling of "making the same sandwich" and chills down your spine were accurate perceptions and useful information. If I had any advice, it would be to try interpreting it like a dream and see if you can get any "meaning" from it, get any leads to follow. In the meantime, listen to your feelings and intuitions about it to tell you when you're hot or cold.
fried_eagle_mind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:50 on April 1, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I adore your recall of this amazing story. Man, this is my favorite sub.
2000intentions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:59:07 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Totally think it's a "glitch" of sorts. I think you could be reading to much into the fact the sandwiches look a like, but having worked for a sandwich shop for a few years I think it's totally strange the way he acted. Calling you out on the deja vu, questioning you, and the clincher was the "I just didn't want you to drop it" line. Who in their right mind does this stuff when ordering a sandwich?
Then again I could be reading to much into this too, since I don't like to explain things away with coincidence.
Eiyran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:18 on November 16, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
There are some creepy aspects to this story, but for me the most directly unexplainable part is that the first guy vanished in the time it took you to look down at a dropped sandwich, without you noticing him leaving. How close to the door would he have been standing, and is there any kind of video recording you'd have access to? Maybe if you tell your boss there was a guy who you think intended to rob the place that night, he'd let you look at the footage? I mean, it's definitely possible depending on the layout of the location that the guy just booked it and ducked behind something outside, or went around a corner, but I'd be curious to see a security tape if I were you.
Baroness891 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:19 on November 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Is this legit? Awesome story telling, but are you lying? I mean it's so cool to ponder an actual event like this, would hate to entertain bullshit i guess (even if it's well constructed bullshit).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:03 on February 14, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Great write up. Mind if I use this in a scene? I'm a writer and this is gold inspiration.
gator_feathers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:17 on January 25, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
I would be annoyed beyond belief if I wanted to order a sandwich and some idiot kept prattling on and prying into my personal life
๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:37 on January 25, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Insecure about your personal life are you?
It's okay. You'll make it
gator_feathers ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:08 on January 25, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Im not insecure about anything. Make my fucking sandwich. Focus. I'm telling you everything you need to know. You'd have more customers if you didn't try to interview them all. Who wants to go to a place where some guy won't shut the hell up.
๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:59:00 on January 25, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe people who are secure about their personal life.
gator_feathers ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:08:27 on January 26, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Keep telling yourself that.
AliceWolff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:07:35 on February 14, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously this guy meets dozens of people every day who enjoy it.
0_O_O_0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:57 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Do you work close to any military bases? Or other government agencies like FBI/CIA buildings?
city17_dweller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:06 on November 14, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, trainee surveillance operatives doing a really bad job, but the second one was experienced enough to wind OP up with it. Nice theory.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:44 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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outroversion ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:53:13 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Only comment in this thread I upvoted.
PrimeTimeCrime ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:09:28 on March 12, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
So from what I've read in the comments i have a realistic theory. To be clear i don't have an opinion on which one is right so these are just my thoughts. Your shop sells 20 to 30 sandwiches per shift. That's not that many i'm guessing. if he isn't making much business it's not impossible to get involved in illegal activity most likely selling drugs. I even knew a sandwich shop that regularly took part in drug deals with my father and i watched the deal go down myself. Depending on who your boss deals with this could attract some shady ass individuals. This first guy may have been expecting your boss or someone in on the trade. But saw you and was extremely nervous. And saw that he was making you nervous. So when you dropped the sandwich he bolted and jumped a fence or hid from you. I pictured him as a quick looking guy from your description. If the second guy was his father or boss they could have talked about the situation and you because if this is true then it was a failed deal and he defiantly has to discuss it with his partner, father, or boss. So the older man knows of you and a description of you (especially possible if you have any outstanding features such as glasses, unique hair, etc) so even if he went to the other location to meet with a particular worker at the establishment that wasn't you because you obviously aren't in on the charade he is still aware of you and notices its you. Drug dealers see everything too especially older more experienced ones. Very careful individuals. The similarities in sandwiches would all be your doing and if these guys are father and son they could easily like the same food. He probably bought him his first sandwich. So the rest kind of explains itself he just was messing with you in the end. I honestly don't really believe this theory i just made because i'm more of a romantic and your intuition was telling you something was up. Your boss might me hustling or you just got mind fucked by a reality worper or something aha.
Knights_who_say_NIII ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 21:37:06 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
tl;dr
๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:40:32 on November 13, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I make a sandwich for a creepy guy, drop it on its way to the toaster, and I look up and he vanished.
Different creepy guy comes in a week later, and I have crazy deja vu with the sandwich making process, brush it off as deja vu again, and then he turns out letting me know that he knows about me dropping the other guys sandwich and calling out the fact that I'm having deja vu.
Knights_who_say_NIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:26 on November 23, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks man!
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:24 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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๐๏ธ clever_username7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:48 on November 15, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
ok