How so? I often read news there and I'm a little surprised people here see them as (presumably) dishonest.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 15:04:09 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think they are dishonest in any way, I just have had a bunch of issues with their software before.
indyK1ng ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:13:50 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Having worked on some of their software for an internship, I don't think you know how bad it is.
gx6wxwb ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:59:23 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
I read news on their site often too, for a different perspective.
Not sure I'd entirely call them dishonest, they don't flat-out lie like Fox news as far as I can tell, but they definitely seem to have a large bias in favour of the interests of large corporates and the US and its allies. Their views are usually quoted without question, as if they are facts, while opposing views are given much more careful scrutiny and are often presented in a way so the reader discounts their reliability.
I guess it's only natural to try and fit with the views of their biggest customers. A lot like The Economist really. All news organisations have bias, as long as you're aware of what their bias is it's not such a big deal.
Thanks for explaining! Actually, I read a large amount of different news sources - around 200, Twitter makes this astoundingly easy -, and Reuters et al constantly strike me as the most neutral, fact-centered and sober reporters on a situation. Maybe I'll have to consciously review them, but up until now, I never noticed anything special about them.
It's not that they're dishonest, their products just aren't very good. One of their main businesses is big data. A colleague mentioned that at his old job he eventually started entering financial data by hand because Thomson's data was often inaccurate. Also, I recently had to spend $400 on Office Professional in order to make their API software work for me. In fact, I think everyone in my office who has interacted with Thomson finds them unbearable.
[deleted] ยท -47 points ยท Posted at 12:51:56 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Why? This is actually a very good way to run your business, by not giving importance to those silly 4 ideas, they make their products better, in fact, recent studies show that those 4 ideas actually are the main reason the economy is failing.
kl_926 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:33:09 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody looks at those things. It's like those stupid emails they send out every month about where the company is going yada yada bullshit who cares and the HR bullshit TR values shit you have to fill out every year.
My company came up with "Technovation." And then plastered it everywhere from the design offices, to big banners over the production lines.
It's a bit embarrassing, really.
shedskin ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 14:39:38 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I can never decide if I'm wildly different from other people or if the manufactured corporate culture with buzzwords is really as pointless as I think it is and the managers are the only ones who don't know.
NiKva ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:20:52 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I hate buzzwords, period. I have a textbook that I'm reading right now that's chock full of them; ex. "Investigators must be <list every buzzword you can think of>."
Disclaimer: I purchased a copy of this book once. It was "stolen" from my desk after a random sweep for exposed sensitive or confidential information. Oh! The subtle humor in that alone...
TheNr24 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:06:25 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
It is generally against company policy to leave sensitive information out in public areas, for obvious reasons. We once had an executive that was really strict on that policy, in particular. He had his managers randomly "sweep" the cubicles in attempt to find violators at the end of the day after almost everyone left.
In all reality this is a good thing, albeit annoying.
At the end of the day, associates are expected to drink the Kool-aid. Showing lack of spirit by having materials that do not align with the good nature of Corporate Leadership, may hinder teamwork, performance and quality of work. Setting a good example with proper business acumen is expected at all times.
...
I would imagine that accurately paints the picture of the environment I was in at the time, and why it was a non-issue in my eyes.
In crap jobs, I try and sneak in gross errors like this on a regular basis. In this case, I suspect this was a timid cry for help by some lowly intern or equally exploited bottom-tier employee.
Pro-tip: Inserting errors like this works best when you are working for a suspected sociopath who is completely detached from reality. Determine their perspective on reality and exploit to its fullest. Full satisfaction comes when they look like a complete idiot when they try and sell the idea to their manager. Facepalm when their respective audience actually agrees with it.
I'd rather not. It was an image of an anime-styled prepubescent girl getting her skin burned off, revealing her bones, and then her organs fell off beneath her.
It was pretty gross.
Unless you're into that kind of thing, and even so, I don't have the link.
Dunquits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:55 on January 18, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Could your username get more Welsh?!?
Merlord ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:08:00 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best submission on this sub I've ever seen.
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 11:37:51 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This is hilarious
[deleted] ยท -49 points ยท Posted at 12:53:59 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
Which makes it a good design if you ask me. If this is deliberate it's not crappy at all.
Edit: Woah, you do not agree with me, Reddit. My reasoning is this: I'd actually laugh and buy their product if it was something simple, not like a car or anything. Why? Becuase I like the honesty of it. A lot of companies will give zero fucks about values if it stands in the way for revenues and that's just the way the world works. I'd also be inclined to buy something that said "zero dollars of the profit goes to charity".
[deleted] ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 13:34:28 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
But who would want to send this message? "see those positive values over there? Yeah we're over here and have hardly anything to do with them."
As someone who works in tech there, I can tell you they are as good as it gets as long as you produce.
elh0mbre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:28 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
A bunch of people came over from Thomson Reuters to the place I used to work... If they're any indication of what it's like to work there it's gotta be awful.
Then again, could be some addition by subtraction going on there too...
You place several different things in several different circles. Where the circles overlap, it shows that these things have something in common, or that some things share traits. Two circles not connected have nothing in common, for example.
I'll do a diagram focusing on three people regarding sex, hair and eye colour, hobbies, and sports.
This is so damn funny. I have just spent the last few minutes laughing with my Dad about it. This is the greatest and most (probably unintentionally) honest Venn Diagram in history.
acideath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:48 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Honesty is the best policy.
Deusdies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:18 on September 5, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Is this in Eagan?
Smarsh86 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:44:57 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Ha!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:46:48 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
What you are describing would mean that the orange circle would have to be be entirely inside of a bigger "our values" circle. Then you were correct in saying that "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance" were part of their core values.
The way this is presented is that there is very little overlap between "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance" and Reuter's values.
In fact, 98% of what defines the values "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance" is explicitly excluded from Reuter's values.
This Venn diagram is fundamentally constructed wrongly, I think.
I've never studied Venn diagrams or logic past high school but here's my take on it.
Every thing inside a circle should be a thing that can be decided as true or false (for example Innovation*), rather than a description of something that is indeterminate (Reuters' values).
Maybe I'm getting it all wrong.....but my understanding is that the small circle represents Reuters' Values (RV), and the large circle represents Trust, Partnership, Innovation, & Performance. (TPIP).
The two circles partially overlap, so all that can be said is that there is a case where there is only TPIP, another case where there is only RV, and a third case there is both TPIP & RV.
I should point out that the size of the circles (and their shape for that matter) is irrelevant.
One wonders what the RV-only case is like.
*Innovation isn't really something that can be known as true or false....but you get my drift. Innovative would be a better description.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:09:58 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I suspect it wasn't really intended to be a Venn diagram at all. Just had some circles added as a design.
Design without consideration to message is the epitome of crappy design.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:02 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. I was just making an observation about intent, not defending the design.
Tyranith ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:59:43 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but it in no way indicates what those other values might be, and conveys that their values have very little in common with "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance." It might make sense on scrutiny but the whole point of design is to convey ideas quickly and powerfully. This is truly terrible design.
Either way, its not like "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance" actually means anything. An accurate version would have our goals and taking your money.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 13:24:42 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:08:22 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 14:31:17 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure why this is crappy design. It could be inferred that those traits or values are only part of the values they hold important.
The problem is how tiny the area of overlap is between the two circles. That's begging to be interpreted as "We care very little about trust, partnership, innovation, or performance." Which is exactly the opposite of their intention.
It's not just crappy design. It's brilliantly crappy design. It's not unclear, misspelled, or unattractive. It simply sends exactly the wrong message.
CurlSagan ยท 1765 points ยท Posted at 07:52:57 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I've got to salute Reuters for being brutally honest in this Venn diagram.
czechthunder ยท 229 points ยท Posted at 09:41:17 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Classic Reuters
microchip08 ยท 222 points ยท Posted at 13:32:53 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
No, no, it's pronounced "Reuters".
Jackker ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 14:22:06 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Reuters. I got that right, right?
wheatleyisamoron ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 14:35:27 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Right.
mrjobby ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 15:50:13 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Roger, Rodger.
Shurtugil ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:58:29 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Copy that.
concavecat ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:40:14 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Check your vector, Victor.
1pnoe ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:00:17 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
We have clearance, Clarence.
Dollar_Bills ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:13:58 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Huh?
HeySeussCristo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:15 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I can see your penis, Dick.
Krono5_8666V8 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:48:49 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
And don't call me Shirley
HaulCozen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:56:51 on August 19, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Shirley you can't be serious
iamnickdolan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:31:07 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Really though, Roy-ters?
evasote ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:50:22 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
yes
tivmaSamvit ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 14:41:53 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Royters
otterom ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:34:35 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Puts a new twist on pronouncing Dr. Seuss.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:13:14 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
*Soyss
theunnoanprojec ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:14:21 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, he has public ally stated it was meant to be pronounced "soyce"
LuckyKnite ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:09:58 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
... which is how it would be pronounced in German, same as Reuters
DarkMatterBurrito ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:43:17 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Roto-Reuters
VAPossum ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:31:45 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
If South Park ever makes fun of Reuters, they should have Butters start his own news service and call it Rutters.
noodeloodel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:48:39 on December 23, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Rutters is a gas station chain. Mmmmm good food.
AnnaBonanno ยท -45 points ยท Posted at 11:09:19 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Journalists hate him!
[deleted] ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 12:00:34 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my company uses their stuff. This isn't wrong
genitaliban ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 14:26:27 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
How so? I often read news there and I'm a little surprised people here see them as (presumably) dishonest.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 15:04:09 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think they are dishonest in any way, I just have had a bunch of issues with their software before.
indyK1ng ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:13:50 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Having worked on some of their software for an internship, I don't think you know how bad it is.
gx6wxwb ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:59:23 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
I read news on their site often too, for a different perspective.
Not sure I'd entirely call them dishonest, they don't flat-out lie like Fox news as far as I can tell, but they definitely seem to have a large bias in favour of the interests of large corporates and the US and its allies. Their views are usually quoted without question, as if they are facts, while opposing views are given much more careful scrutiny and are often presented in a way so the reader discounts their reliability.
I guess it's only natural to try and fit with the views of their biggest customers. A lot like The Economist really. All news organisations have bias, as long as you're aware of what their bias is it's not such a big deal.
genitaliban ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:06:36 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for explaining! Actually, I read a large amount of different news sources - around 200, Twitter makes this astoundingly easy -, and Reuters et al constantly strike me as the most neutral, fact-centered and sober reporters on a situation. Maybe I'll have to consciously review them, but up until now, I never noticed anything special about them.
teaoverlord ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:38:34 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
You probably have the same biases as Reuters.
genitaliban ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:12:47 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
... which is why I asked that someone explain them. Nebulous accusations don't help with that.
evasote ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:43 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think of them as a european version of pre-murdoch Wall Street Journal with more politics
Muffinator4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:30 on January 23, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that they're dishonest, their products just aren't very good. One of their main businesses is big data. A colleague mentioned that at his old job he eventually started entering financial data by hand because Thomson's data was often inaccurate. Also, I recently had to spend $400 on Office Professional in order to make their API software work for me. In fact, I think everyone in my office who has interacted with Thomson finds them unbearable.
Myrandall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:56:36 on December 2, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
/r/venndiagrams
[deleted] ยท -47 points ยท Posted at 12:51:56 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Why? This is actually a very good way to run your business, by not giving importance to those silly 4 ideas, they make their products better, in fact, recent studies show that those 4 ideas actually are the main reason the economy is failing.
tiedyechicken ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 13:17:20 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
[citation needed]
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 13:32:04 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly performance and innovation are only detrimental to a successful business.
Strensh ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 13:56:59 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, trust and performance are horrible for any self-respecting news corporation that wants to increase their news' value.
Poor performance and untrustworthy news is the way to go for a better product.
But hey, I'm all for it if you can back your bullshit up. Should be easy to just link to those recent studies, and I'd look like a fool!
[deleted] ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 14:02:07 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.google.com/search?q=why+is+it+better+to+trust+our+own+values&oq=why+is+it+better+to+trust+our+own+values&aqs=chrome..69i57.5894j0j7&client=ubuntu-browser&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
Here, I did my own research, obviously it's much better to trust your own values then what some other people tell you
LePetitChou ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 14:44:01 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Linking a Google search is not research. Not in any way, shape or form.
Let me shown you why: see how ineffective this is at proving a point?
[deleted] ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 14:45:14 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
No
your just wrong
LePetitChou ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:46:17 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
The irony.
Jonno_FTW ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:48:24 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Please ignore the troll
LePetitChou ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:49:33 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I looked at the comment history, and I'm not sure that's the case. I think the person might actually be this stupid.
Strensh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:59:39 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Well, we are a lot alike buddy, because I did my own research too.
https://www.google.com/search?q=why+it+is+not+better+to+trust+our+own+values&oq=why+it+is+not+better+to+trust+our+own+values&aqs=chrome..69i57.5894j0j7&client=ubuntu-browser&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
And to be frank, my research invalidates your research. Now let's see if I can do some research on the cure for cancer with a google search.
_____FANCY-NAME_____ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:33 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I trust this is satire...
EatTheBooty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:18 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Are you that bored? Go sit under a bridge if you're having that much fun being a troll.
[deleted] ยท 278 points ยท Posted at 10:42:44 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Too much trust, partnership, innovation or performance would be a bad thing. They are moderate, I like it.
grizzardofoz ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 14:11:11 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
"None of us are as dumb as all of us."
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 20:56:26 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
"A person is smart. People are stupid."
throwawayreuters ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 13:25:56 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
As an engineer at Thomson Reuters, I'm happy when TR makes the front page but sheesh... I'm not surprised by this.
kl_926 ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 19:22:56 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
We have engineers? I thought all we had was 100 layers of middle management.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 14:37:24 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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throwawayreuters ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:12:44 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Floppy_cum_fart, you work for TR?
UselessUrethra ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:39:30 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Don't answer that FCF.
kl_926 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:33:09 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody looks at those things. It's like those stupid emails they send out every month about where the company is going yada yada bullshit who cares and the HR bullshit TR values shit you have to fill out every year.
throwawayreuters2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:49:18 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
As another (software) engineer at TR, I'm pretty sure someone did this on purpose. I'll be leaving soon. What branch are you under?
Carosello ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 14:29:47 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
My problem with this is less "Venn diagram", and more positioning.
"Our values" should be on the left. And to take away the Venn diagram feel, the little circle should be higher up.
Blacksmith_LLC ยท 361 points ยท Posted at 10:43:21 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I like how the our values circle is significantly smaller than the other.
Stillnotreddit ยท -131 points ยท Posted at 11:18:33 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
See u/CurlSagan
eKletzeK ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 02:21:58 on August 30, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Shut up
iamsofired ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 14:03:39 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I hate these daft buzzwords people plaster their walls with.
RustyToad ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 14:11:31 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
My company came up with "Technovation." And then plastered it everywhere from the design offices, to big banners over the production lines.
It's a bit embarrassing, really.
shedskin ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 14:39:38 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I can never decide if I'm wildly different from other people or if the manufactured corporate culture with buzzwords is really as pointless as I think it is and the managers are the only ones who don't know.
NiKva ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:20:52 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I hate buzzwords, period. I have a textbook that I'm reading right now that's chock full of them; ex. "Investigators must be <list every buzzword you can think of>."
centralcontrol ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:40:28 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
There is, in fact, a book that is completely dedicated to the subject. Imma just leave this here and walk away slowly: http://www.amazon.com/The-Dictionary-Corporate-Bullshit-Enraging/dp/0767920740
Disclaimer: I purchased a copy of this book once. It was "stolen" from my desk after a random sweep for exposed sensitive or confidential information. Oh! The subtle humor in that alone...
TheNr24 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:06:25 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what, elaborate on the sweep thing?
centralcontrol ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:29:29 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
It is generally against company policy to leave sensitive information out in public areas, for obvious reasons. We once had an executive that was really strict on that policy, in particular. He had his managers randomly "sweep" the cubicles in attempt to find violators at the end of the day after almost everyone left.
In all reality this is a good thing, albeit annoying.
crazykoala ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:15:33 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Was there any explanation on why that book was swept up?
centralcontrol ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:28:16 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
At the end of the day, associates are expected to drink the Kool-aid. Showing lack of spirit by having materials that do not align with the good nature of Corporate Leadership, may hinder teamwork, performance and quality of work. Setting a good example with proper business acumen is expected at all times.
...
I would imagine that accurately paints the picture of the environment I was in at the time, and why it was a non-issue in my eyes.
ShellAnswerMan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:14:16 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
The people here also share your pain:
http://www.weaselwords.com.au/home/
graffiti81 ยท 143 points ยท Posted at 12:29:37 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Who knows, maybe they're subtlety telling the truth.
centralcontrol ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 14:47:50 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
In crap jobs, I try and sneak in gross errors like this on a regular basis. In this case, I suspect this was a timid cry for help by some lowly intern or equally exploited bottom-tier employee.
Pro-tip: Inserting errors like this works best when you are working for a suspected sociopath who is completely detached from reality. Determine their perspective on reality and exploit to its fullest. Full satisfaction comes when they look like a complete idiot when they try and sell the idea to their manager. Facepalm when their respective audience actually agrees with it.
Edit: I cannot take credit for the underlying concept. Thanks Michelangelo! (http://royscarbrough.hubpages.com/hub/When-Michelangelo-Made-an-Ass-of-his-Critic)
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 16:42:43 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
What is more than nude!? I must know. You know...for science.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:52:31 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Skin peeling off, exposed bones and organs.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:17:25 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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matthewrobo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:39:56 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's pretty NSFW. You have found a scarily accurate image.
HououinKyouma1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:50 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Link? It was deleted.
matthewrobo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:06:34 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather not. It was an image of an anime-styled prepubescent girl getting her skin burned off, revealing her bones, and then her organs fell off beneath her.
It was pretty gross.
Unless you're into that kind of thing, and even so, I don't have the link.
HououinKyouma1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:08:40 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone else have the link?
matthewrobo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:09:43 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
You're into some weird shit, aren't you?
EDIT: Found it in my history. WARNING: Pretty goddamn NSFL
HououinKyouma1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:38 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
uhh
matthewrobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:14 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
don't get your panties in a knot, i found it
Check the last comment.
HououinKyouma1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:21 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. How did you find it anyway?
matthewrobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:27 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I checked my history.
Sometimes, you just remember it exists.
Cymry_Cymraeg ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:29:41 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Or inadvertently honest design?
Dunquits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:55 on January 18, 2015 ยท (Permalink)
Could your username get more Welsh?!?
Merlord ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:08:00 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best submission on this sub I've ever seen.
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 11:37:51 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This is hilarious
[deleted] ยท -49 points ยท Posted at 12:53:59 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
Which makes it a good design if you ask me. If this is deliberate it's not crappy at all.
Edit: Woah, you do not agree with me, Reddit. My reasoning is this: I'd actually laugh and buy their product if it was something simple, not like a car or anything. Why? Becuase I like the honesty of it. A lot of companies will give zero fucks about values if it stands in the way for revenues and that's just the way the world works. I'd also be inclined to buy something that said "zero dollars of the profit goes to charity".
[deleted] ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 13:34:28 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
But who would want to send this message? "see those positive values over there? Yeah we're over here and have hardly anything to do with them."
Andymetoo ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 13:53:00 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
New corporate strategy: deliberately fucking up your own image. Let's see how this pans out!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:53:23 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Works great so far for comcast. Everbody is talking about them
Andymetoo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:09:39 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Hey that's...kinda true... We're on to something.
Burial4TetThomYorke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:28 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Are you also EdgarAllanNope?
cobue ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 10:13:43 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
good laugh
Fig1024 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:18:29 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I want to work there!
DerpsMcGeeOnDowns ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:29:07 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who works in tech there, I can tell you they are as good as it gets as long as you produce.
elh0mbre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:28 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
A bunch of people came over from Thomson Reuters to the place I used to work... If they're any indication of what it's like to work there it's gotta be awful.
Then again, could be some addition by subtraction going on there too...
DerpsMcGeeOnDowns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:48 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Were they part of the huge layoff TR had?
elh0mbre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:46 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Possible, but I don't think so. It was management first then it worked its way down. This was ~2011-2012.
BringOutTheBeast ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:47:32 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
How'd they miss that?
Nonplussed1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:30:41 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Ummmmm, graphics department needs to get some caffeine going.
LightlessLightbulb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:25 on November 20, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
They recently made the switch to decaf.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:35 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
When the company fucks you over, they just show you this Venn and go "What? you thought we were kidding? or fucked it up?"
Binarytobis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:56 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Someone in the graphic design department is bitter.
relkin43 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:39:24 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
What's a venn diagram? lol
MisterDonkey ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:31:24 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
You place several different things in several different circles. Where the circles overlap, it shows that these things have something in common, or that some things share traits. Two circles not connected have nothing in common, for example.
I'll do a diagram focusing on three people regarding sex, hair and eye colour, hobbies, and sports.
You:
Me:
Girl:
The diagram would look like this.
I left redundant traits in each circle to illustrate how those things are shared in the overlap.
relkin43 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 13:27:43 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I REALLY appreciate this, I do. I also feel very, very bad I didn't include a "/s" after my comment. :(
shaggorama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:42 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Accidental honesty?
TowerTrash ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:33 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
"Bro, do you even Venn?"
SecTrono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:37 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
lol ok this is the first legitimately bad design posted on this sub in a while. SO bad.
EvOllj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:56 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
honest venn diagram
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:24 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This has been the best post I've seen on this sub yet.
thejt24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:22 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
wtf is up with the font
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:23 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
so what are the other values?
Inoffensive_name ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:56 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
.
karlosvonawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:37 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Well at least there's some overlap there.
TaintedKage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:54 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Trust our partnership values.
cuddleskunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:02 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
This is so damn funny. I have just spent the last few minutes laughing with my Dad about it. This is the greatest and most (probably unintentionally) honest Venn Diagram in history.
acideath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:48 on August 18, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Honesty is the best policy.
Deusdies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:18 on September 5, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Is this in Eagan?
Smarsh86 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:44:57 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Ha!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:46:48 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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Purple10tacle ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 11:04:52 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
That's not how you read a Venn diagram, though.
What you are describing would mean that the orange circle would have to be be entirely inside of a bigger "our values" circle. Then you were correct in saying that "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance" were part of their core values.
The way this is presented is that there is very little overlap between "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance" and Reuter's values.
In fact, 98% of what defines the values "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance" is explicitly excluded from Reuter's values.
RAAFStupot ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 11:46:14 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
This Venn diagram is fundamentally constructed wrongly, I think.
I've never studied Venn diagrams or logic past high school but here's my take on it.
Every thing inside a circle should be a thing that can be decided as true or false (for example Innovation*), rather than a description of something that is indeterminate (Reuters' values).
Maybe I'm getting it all wrong.....but my understanding is that the small circle represents Reuters' Values (RV), and the large circle represents Trust, Partnership, Innovation, & Performance. (TPIP).
The two circles partially overlap, so all that can be said is that there is a case where there is only TPIP, another case where there is only RV, and a third case there is both TPIP & RV.
I should point out that the size of the circles (and their shape for that matter) is irrelevant.
One wonders what the RV-only case is like.
*Innovation isn't really something that can be known as true or false....but you get my drift. Innovative would be a better description.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:09:58 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I suspect it wasn't really intended to be a Venn diagram at all. Just had some circles added as a design.
The_Dead_See ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:09:55 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Design without consideration to message is the epitome of crappy design.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:02 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. I was just making an observation about intent, not defending the design.
Tyranith ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:59:43 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but it in no way indicates what those other values might be, and conveys that their values have very little in common with "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance." It might make sense on scrutiny but the whole point of design is to convey ideas quickly and powerfully. This is truly terrible design.
baskandpurr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:27:13 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
Either way, its not like "trust, partnership, innovation, and performance" actually means anything. An accurate version would have our goals and taking your money.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 13:24:42 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:08:22 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 14:31:17 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure why this is crappy design. It could be inferred that those traits or values are only part of the values they hold important.
LePetitChou ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:40:29 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's the problem.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:30 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it depends on interpretation. They could hold other positive values close. Perhaps the crappy design is its ambiguity.
LePetitChou ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:59:15 on August 17, 2014 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is how tiny the area of overlap is between the two circles. That's begging to be interpreted as "We care very little about trust, partnership, innovation, or performance." Which is exactly the opposite of their intention.
It's not just crappy design. It's brilliantly crappy design. It's not unclear, misspelled, or unattractive. It simply sends exactly the wrong message.