"God will invade. But I wonder whether people who ask God to interfere openly and directly in our world quite realise what it will be like when He does. When that happens, it is the end of the world. When the author walks on to the stage the play is over. " - CS Lewis
ixiox ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 00:25:21 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
I think people, especially atheists, imagine god as something similar to zeus and the gang, just with more power, while in reality the guy is closer to stuff out of lovecraft, a being beyond understanding and reality
Not even Lovecraft, but far more unknowable than even that. The elder gods are still mere beings among beings, even if they are unimaginable for us. But God, YHWH, is being itself and totally non-composite and non-contingent.
Cardinal Sarah's book on the power of silence is good. Bishop Barron is like the only one I know of who has any prose. Father ripperger is good, but he has no delivery, he tells fast, is very succinct, and very analytical. So, if you don't like analytical lectures so much he might not be for you, but his information is indispensable, I think. But more to your point, I think the old poets had an era and it may never return.
Iโm not sure if they are what youโre looking for but Mathoma and Classical Theist are some of my favorites. Also, I plan to do Catholic content on my own YouTube in the future, and Iโll hopefully remember to send you those if you might be interested in them as well.
Et12355 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:05:48 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Peterson believes in a lot of the moral and ethical values of Christianity but he doesnโt ever say if he actually believes in God or not. But he definitely writes extensively about the social goods that religion can bring about (as well as the truly evil things misguided people have done in the name of religion). And he has said that he finds religion can often be an effective tool to help people in times of crisis, like the people he treats as patients. But I wouldnโt call his works expressly religious nor do I think you must be religious in order to get the full value from his books and his message.
I would reevaluate your stance on this. Have you seen his discussion with Sam Harris or the various podcasts he has had with church members? He cried when he said he believes in Jesus.
Watch his biblical series. Even if he has some level of faith he still thinks as an atheist. That distinctly sets him apart from people like Lewis and Aquinas whose foundational conceptions are distinctly Christian. Lewis looks at the world through his Christianity. Peterson doesn't.
Look into Josef Pieper. A highly underrated legend. He died in 97, so I'd say modern day philosopher by most standards. Among his influences are CS Lewis.
I read an old article in First Things recently: "The Second Coming of C.S Lewis" (Alan Jacobs, from 1994) -- basically many are looking for a replacement for Lewis, but he was a unique combination of elements unlikely to be repeated. We'd do better to try to speak to our world, rather than his of 70 years ago. People in our time don't believe as much in absolute truth, so are unlikely to be moved by appeals to rational argument such as Lewis provided.
Jordan Peterson hasn't yet admitted to being a Christian.
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DaSaw ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:51:50 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
He tried. Twice. First time he tried to flood it out, but it just came back. Second time he faked himself, and instead of killing everyone except the Only Good Man, just killed the Only Good Man. Weirdly, that worked better than what he'd tried before.
No, basically if God got rid of all the evil in the world he would have to destroy every human because we are all capable of being evil and doing evil things.
fruktkaka1 ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 20:18:19 on August 4, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm gonna use that.
Fair_Jelly ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:39:29 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that, but also this is exactly what's going to happen during the Second Coming.
Paradosiakos ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 20:33:26 on August 4, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
"God will invade. But I wonder whether people who ask God to interfere openly and directly in our world quite realise what it will be like when He does. When that happens, it is the end of the world. When the author walks on to the stage the play is over. " - CS Lewis
ixiox ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 00:25:21 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
I think people, especially atheists, imagine god as something similar to zeus and the gang, just with more power, while in reality the guy is closer to stuff out of lovecraft, a being beyond understanding and reality
russiabot1776 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:15:38 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Not even Lovecraft, but far more unknowable than even that. The elder gods are still mere beings among beings, even if they are unimaginable for us. But God, YHWH, is being itself and totally non-composite and non-contingent.
CommanderCorncob ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:25:51 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually why I like Lovecraft lol
uncle-fresh-touch ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 22:40:58 on August 4, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Are there any modern day people dropping bombs of Christian philosophy like CS Lewis? Might be Jordan Peterson at best right now.
VisciousDolphin ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:54:58 on August 4, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Cardinal Sarah's book on the power of silence is good. Bishop Barron is like the only one I know of who has any prose. Father ripperger is good, but he has no delivery, he tells fast, is very succinct, and very analytical. So, if you don't like analytical lectures so much he might not be for you, but his information is indispensable, I think. But more to your point, I think the old poets had an era and it may never return.
uncle-fresh-touch ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:08:28 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
I pray for another age.
CommanderCorncob ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:32:12 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm not sure if they are what youโre looking for but Mathoma and Classical Theist are some of my favorites. Also, I plan to do Catholic content on my own YouTube in the future, and Iโll hopefully remember to send you those if you might be interested in them as well.
Et12355 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:05:48 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Peterson believes in a lot of the moral and ethical values of Christianity but he doesnโt ever say if he actually believes in God or not. But he definitely writes extensively about the social goods that religion can bring about (as well as the truly evil things misguided people have done in the name of religion). And he has said that he finds religion can often be an effective tool to help people in times of crisis, like the people he treats as patients. But I wouldnโt call his works expressly religious nor do I think you must be religious in order to get the full value from his books and his message.
uncle-fresh-touch ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:06:07 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
I would reevaluate your stance on this. Have you seen his discussion with Sam Harris or the various podcasts he has had with church members? He cried when he said he believes in Jesus.
SleepyandBritish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:52 on August 12, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Watch his biblical series. Even if he has some level of faith he still thinks as an atheist. That distinctly sets him apart from people like Lewis and Aquinas whose foundational conceptions are distinctly Christian. Lewis looks at the world through his Christianity. Peterson doesn't.
Paradosiakos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:33:13 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Just found the quote fitting for this meme.
smallpelican ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:57:33 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Look into Josef Pieper. A highly underrated legend. He died in 97, so I'd say modern day philosopher by most standards. Among his influences are CS Lewis.
Forestpilgrim ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:44:09 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
I read an old article in First Things recently: "The Second Coming of C.S Lewis" (Alan Jacobs, from 1994) -- basically many are looking for a replacement for Lewis, but he was a unique combination of elements unlikely to be repeated. We'd do better to try to speak to our world, rather than his of 70 years ago. People in our time don't believe as much in absolute truth, so are unlikely to be moved by appeals to rational argument such as Lewis provided.
Jordan Peterson hasn't yet admitted to being a Christian.
russiabot1776 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:38 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Peterson did at he believed in Jesus Christ
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I would say Trent Horn, pretty smart guy overall and his works are pretty great.
EmptySeaweed4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:12:58 on August 7, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Dr. Peter Kreeft
RememberNichelle ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 20:05:54 on August 4, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Owwwch. That's a good one.
broji04 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 21:20:36 on August 4, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
Good burn that is theologically accurate.
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I thought we were good, but fallen
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 20:31:55 on August 4, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
I chuckled aloud! x'D Accurate theology and comedy gold in one!
DiddyWahDiddy500 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:29:14 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
OH SNAP!
AnimalLoverx20 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:00:33 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
โYou canโt handle the truth!โ - Col. Jessup
exz20042 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:28:26 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like Death Note handles this very well
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DaSaw ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:51:50 on August 5, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
He tried. Twice. First time he tried to flood it out, but it just came back. Second time he faked himself, and instead of killing everyone except the Only Good Man, just killed the Only Good Man. Weirdly, that worked better than what he'd tried before.
two_womps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:55 on August 20, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
I would argue there is a third. The Garden of Eden was his first attempt and humans crapped on that too.
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LessrPanda ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:23:42 on August 6, 2021 ยท (Permalink)
No, basically if God got rid of all the evil in the world he would have to destroy every human because we are all capable of being evil and doing evil things.