Are you referring to Guiding Light? That show began on radio in 1937 and finally ended its television run 72 years later, in 2009. From 1952 to 1956, the show ran on both radio and TV, with the same actors performing the same story twice.
Lol my mother would watch GL religiously every day. She named my little brother Josh, after the bearded fellow on the show that died and resurrected every so often. Nobody but me knows.
I find it amazing how far soap operas have fallen in the U.S. lately. As recently as the 1990s, most major broadcast networks (except Fox) aired three or four soaps every weekday. Now only four daytime soaps remain: ABC's General Hospital, CBS's The Bold and the Beautiful and The Young and The Restless, and NBC's Days of Our Lives.
There are many reasons for this: Fewer stay-at-home mothers, fewer mothers passing down their favorite soaps to their daughters, cheaper talk and reality shows, competition from cable and the Internet...
spmahn ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:08:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soap Operas are expensive to produce, you have actors, writers, production people, and all their associated unions. Talk Shows and Game Shows are much cheaper to produce and do similar if not better ratings and ad rates.
Radio drama requires a narrator to describe the action, which lends itself to different pacing. I think sound technology and techniques were different for radio and TV, not to mention that in the mid-50s, many radio and television soaps were still performed live. (Almost all TV was live in the earliest days.)
Euchre ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:56:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Foley art was part of the radio soap, too - which isn't needed in TV with its visual cues. (This was a point brought up by my SO, who lives and breathes GH.)
That was when its cancellation was announced. The last episode aired on September 18.
JSiobhan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guiding Light was created by Irma Phillips. Her first radio soap opera was sponsored by Pillsbury. If the company had continued their support of radio daytime drams, we might be calling them "cake operas".
I used to watch GL with my mom when it was on. From what I remember, it was actually pretty entertaining. Not "binge watch on Netflix" entertaining, but "lol what's gonna happen next" entertaining. The other ones on just don't seem to have the same "surprises". The
Bold and The Beautiful, another one on CBS, has ran so long that the romances are borderline incestuous. Not actual incest, but everyone is someone's stepmom's cousin's son or something. It's hilarious.
My grandmother, a WWII-era refugee to the US, first started following Guiding Light when it was still just a radio show. She first listened, then watched it faithfully all those decades.
Her sister, a Siberian deportation survivor, followed it back in their homeland too, but it was aired many seasons behind there. She would always ask my grandmother if the show ever ended, because we'd know in the US years before they did.
(My grandmother lived to see the end of Guiding Light in 2009. Her sister didn't. :( )
The Archers still is a radio show, although Iโm not sure whether it is actually a soap or just a placeholder to act as a convenient joke for BBC comedians.
I'm so glad radio drama is on its way back. Homeland Homecoming is a good podcast and now I've heard that Marvel is doing a Wolverine series. Star Wars did all three original trilogy films as radio dramas in the '80s (Mark Hamill even played Luke Skywalker and also Anthony Daniels and Billy Dee Williams is there) so it would be so great if Lucasfilm could bring that back.
What, really?! Now I really want to find a copy of the Star Wars radio dramas. The BBC LotR radio drama is one of my favorite things ever to listen to -- I probably have most of their Fellowship dramatization memorized at this point. I hope that the Star Wars ones are just as good!
I can also recommend The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy radio drama, which-- I hope you're sitting down-- preceded the novels and are actually the original version of the story.
What???!?!???!? That's awesome. I love radio dramas -- growing up, every Sunday night I would listen to a program where they played radio shows from the 1940s-1960s for 4 hours. Do you have any other recommendations?
aaaaaayy! Me, too! I'm 30 but somehow I grew up listening to radio dramas late every Saturday night.
Podcasts are how they do it nowadays. I've only listened to a couple: Welcome to Night Vale is everybody's favorite, and I really enjoyed the first season of Homecoming, which has the benefit of featuring real actors that you've heard of, like Star Wars' Oscar Isaac. The Truth has some good episodes, especially "Moon Graffiti".
So check those out, check out the Star Wars radio dramas (feat. John Lithgow as Yoda lol) and Hitchhiker's Guide (ever wonder why they chose the song "Journey of the Sorcerer" as the movie's theme song?) radio programme. You're in for several treats!
I'm younger than 30, so I think getting to listen to old time radio growing up was very lucky. Thanks for the podcast recommendations! I really love Oscar Isaac, so I might have to try that one.
It's really good. At the end of each episode, they talk about how they produced each episode, and it's so interesting. Stuff like actually sitting on a park bench or in an office and actually acting together, with physical movement and everything, instead of recording separately on different days in a sound booth. It's a good show with a captivating story. Enjoy!
Related: if you've never listened to a Star Wars audiobook, they're bad ass. They have the licensed sound effects and music and they're a lot of fun to listen to.
I remember STAR WARS being a (longer than three parts) radio drama in the 70s/80s. I don't think they did Empire or Jedi but I might be wrong. You can find it online. I loved it when I was a kid because it was one way you could satisfy the urge to get more star wars in your life, and it really expanded on the characters and situations.
ANH in 1981, Empire in 1983(?) and Jedi in 1996 (it was a whole thing). The shows are, all episodes together, like four hours long!! Granted, you have to describe things you'd otherwise see in the movies, but still lol
If anyone's wondering about their canonicity, they used to be G Canon, since George Lucas helped develop them. Not anymore, however. The first episode actually starts following Princess Leia before the movie starts, but she gets the Death Star plans at "Toprawa", not Scarif. Stuff like that. It's still worth listening to because it's Star Wars but while you ride your bike or whatever lol
I found it, it's stupid:
"No soap radio" is a form of practical joke and an example of surreal comedy. The joke is in reality a prank whereby the punch line has no relation to the body of the joke; that is, it is actually not funny, but participants in the prank pretend otherwise. The effect is to either trick someone into laughing along as if they "get it" or to ridicule them for not understanding.
Same here. I thought it was from some foriegn genre of television.
DaSaw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably when they started, washing with soap was not a universal habit, so soap companies would sponsor shows about how awesome the lives of clean people are, so people would want to buy soap.
jlenney1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:54:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was all consuming, forever present, never retreating from the forefront of conscious thought. The moments before sleep; a feeling of dreaded anticipation, the moments of waking; a terror of realized fears. Days spent pretending life was still worthwhile, nights knowing it never would be because of the shame of forgetting how to google.
Salsa music was music played on radio stations sponsored by salsa companies. The music was a new genre without a name until people started referring to it as such.
Salsa means 'sauce' in the Spanish language, and carries connotations of the spiciness common in Latin and Caribbean cuisine. In the 20th century, salsa acquired a musical meaning in both English and Spanish. In this sense salsa has been described as a word with "vivid associations." Cubans and Puerto Ricans in New York have used the term analogously to swing or soul music. In this usage salsa connotes a frenzied, "hot" and wild musical experience that draws upon or reflects elements of Latin culture, regardless of the style. - Wikipedia
Banjos were originally made by a company that didn't want to sell them to Jo's.
dethkon ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:45:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually rock and roll was named after not only the big rock companies you mentioned, but also bankrolled by Big Roll... you know, companies that make rolls of things (paper towels, tp, uh, yoga mats).
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:47:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Same thing with jazz music. It was exclusively used to promote jazz bands.
I always wondered why there was sexy Herbal Essence ads in my Soap Operas.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:24:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then where does the opera part come into play? Unless I'm wrong I don't think soap operas feature people singing in languages that I don't understand while drawing out the notes for so long I probably wouldn't understand even if I spoke the language.
They incorporated "opera" because the operas were closely associated with drama.
Why didn't they use "Soap drama" instead? No idea.
Sam-Gunn ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:33:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I believe it's because of something more like this definition:
a dramatic work in one or more acts, set to music for singers and instrumentalists.
Which doesn't actually suggest you're wrong, just that it's a tad more involved than simply being drama. And I consider it incomplete. Something better would remove the last bit (as a space opera tends not to have any music unless it's a movie).
For example, a science fiction story, book, or movie that is primarily based in space itself and focuses on ship to ship combat (among other things) is called a Space Opera.
The Who, Pink Floyd, and The Pretty Things all wrote special albums that, when played together, told a story via music. Tommy, The Wall, and S.F. Sorrow, respectively. These are considered some of the best (err, or maybe only) Rock Operas.
Stimonk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:44:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soap operas were actually created because TV/radios were being sold, but there was no content on them. Back then they realized that they had to create content, otherwise the hardware would be useless.
So you had electronics companies creating radio/tv shows and getting soap companies to sponsor/subsidize it.
For TV - there emerged the red channels & blue channel - which would later become NBC & ABC I believe.
IIRC "Space opera" as a term is derived from "horse opera", which referred to Western shows. Lots of drama, not particularly accurate. Star Trek was originally promoted to TV producers by Roddenberry as a sort of space Western.
โJanice! Are you cheating on me? Why?!โ
โBecause you... you bought the store brand soap!โ
โIโm sorry Janice!โ
โNo, itโs too late, John! You wonโt change!โ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You joke, but in the UK a series of adverts were filmed in the style of a cheap soap opera:
Thank you! I've never understood why those shows were called soap opera's!
X0AN ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Procter and Gamble were originally just a soap company and they used to advertise on radio dramas in the 20s/30s.
As they were a soap making company and sponsored the dramas (aka operas) they gaine the nickname soap operas, which carried over when tv came out/took off.
One of my 7th graders pronounces these as โso-poperasโ and I have to repeatedly correct him. He asked why do they have the word soap in them and I didnโt know, but now I can tell him! Haha
Zerotan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always wonder how every detergent can claim to be that much better than the leading brand.
Would that make the shadow a coal opera? Coal radio? Tire opera?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had NO idea they were called soap operas because of that. Perhaps we should name them "dramas" now? I'd feel a lot better saying "My favourite drama is 'Bold and the Beautiful'" as opposed to "My favourite soap opera", lol
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh My God. It weirds me out how I've never wondered why they were called soap operas like just never questioned it
It also wasn't that advertisers necessairly thought of soap as strictly a "feminine" product. I mean, they knew men used it too. But in the 30s and 40s, women were typically the decision makers for household purchases - they were the ones doing the shopping, deciding which brands to purchase. So a lot of advertising was geared towards them, even for men's products ("Ladies, are you tired of your husband's hair looking and feeling greasy? Try new Brylcreem!").
TobiasCB ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:24:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Advertising isn't sexist. Each product has its demographic.
I don't think it's that's sexist. Like advertising certain cars to a man. Women bought soap. They wanted to sell soap.
Edit: Quickly realized that I was thinking in terms of the gender-roles that were relevant at that time. But of course, gender-roles themselves are sexist
Compelling argument. Have you tried "i know you are but what am i" yet?
dethkon ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't an arguement it was a question (which I already answered THANK YOU VERY MUCH). what's your answer, out of curiosity? brb another match is about to start and we have to save this round so we can get aks next round
You shouldn't. But I'm sure the majority of people that do the grocery shopping are women, so obviously that would be their best demographic to advertise too.
I'm sure the majority of pickup truck buyers are men, so obviously that'll be their demographic they advertise to. That doesn't mean that I should buy a pickup truck because I have a penis.
dethkon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:51:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do ALL of my pizza roll, hot pocket, and monster energy drink shopping by MYSELF (A MAN FYI) and I WILL NOT be shamed by you
You got any luck warming the inside of the hot pockets? Mine are always brick
dethkon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but it involves a combination of microwave, toaster oven, and placing them inside your gaming rig for the finish (the key is to make sure it warms nicely on your video card but the cheese doesn't ooze out on to it)
ddaug4uf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:46:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would argue that women tend to have more specific items targeted at them as well.
SOURCE: There are eleven tubes, bottles and containers of stuff in mine and my fiancรฉโs shower; 2 of them are mine (soap and 2-in-1 shampoo/conditioner).
cobrabb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gotta get that 3 in 1 brah
ddaug4uf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Occasionally, when I donโt realize there is no more soap, it is 3-in-1!
The gap is closing but it still favors women as primary grocery shoppers. Now realize that soap operas first came out in the 1950s and ask yourself if traditional gender roles were more prominent in traditional America.
crimeo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:10:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go to grocery stores. Get data. Find out that one gender buys more X. The end.
In the case of soap operas, we don't need to actually do that, because obviously soap executives were not idiots and would have been operating off of exactly that data, as implied by soap operas being a thing.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but that doesn't make targeting genders not sexist. Like it may be justified but it is sexist.
crimeo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:06:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody has to ever say that you SHOULD in order for it to still be true that women usually DID. Lots of things are true without anyone ever having needed to dictate that they SHOULD be true. (I'm sure plenty chose to say women should buy soap anyway, but it's not inherent to the gender roles themselves)
Is water being made out of hydrogen and oxygen bigoted against sulfur?
dethkon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:57:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because I shower once a week at best and your trying to send me a message but SORRY IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MY 70 HOURS OF GAMING PER WEEK IS VERY IMPORTANT JANE AND ALSO THEY DO IT LIKE THAT IN EUROPE YOU HORRID BALL BUSTER YOU'RE JUST LIKE MY MOM
btw can u pick me up a 6 pack of monster and and some totinos? plz make sure they're the right kind this time. Brb another round is about to start.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid we had a maid who would watch her soaps while doing the ironing. Ajax had the commercials I liked. They seemed to have an obsession with making things white:
Great ads. I remember the Ajax liquid was still doing the white tornado thing in the 70s. When my brothers and I wanted to clean our room quickly, we pretended to be the white tornado.
The cc line on an email is an acronym that stands for carbon copy. When I first learned to use a mechanical typewriter as a child, before Xerox machines, my grandfather gave me nice typing paper, but also sheets of paper coated with carbon on one side. To make a carbon copy, you carefully placed the carbon paper in between two pieces of paper, being careful to put the carbon coated side facing down. Each strike of a the typewriter key imprinted a copy on the second piece of paper. A typical typewriter could handle up to 2-3 sheets of paper, layered with carbon. At the end of the letter, proper etiquette required a cc: line. On this line, you would type cc: followed by the names of all the people receiving a copy. Now if you didn't want the original recipient to know that you were sending out copies, you would not type a cc: line, and this was known as a "blind carbon copy" which we now know as the bcc: line.
Banging away. I forgot about that until just now. One of my typewriters didn't give enough force to get through more than one carbon paper. So I had to literally bang away to get each letter to go through.
And God forbid you put the carbon paper in there wrong, you'd have to re-do the whole thing. And don't get me started on trying to use white out over it.
I heard a college student not too long ago saying he was banging away on the computer all night trying to write a last minute essay. I thought to myself, kid you have no idea what it meant to really bang away. Then my next thought was he was banging himself watching porn. But then my daughter told me the correct word for that was fapping away. I'm seriously not even old.
I bet most young people don't realize the Pokemon Ditto is purple because of ditto machines. The most common dye for those was analine purple, also called mauveine.
Car-face ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:43:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're they the ones that smelled great? I remember in early High school our teacher getting the shits because as soon as he walked in the class with a batch of fresh ditto copies, the first thing everyone did was pick them up and smell them.
The more generic term is spirit duplicator. They worked pretty well if you just needed <50 copies of something, since the dye is actually in wax on the original so you couldn't make a ton of copies. My school had one. They smelled great too because of the solvents used to get the dye out of the wax.
Nowadays people say it stands for "courtesy copy"... But we know better.
sykopoet ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:54:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a vague memory of being a small child with black hands from carbon paper. I don't know what I destroyed to get that way, but I'm sure it was fun.
Oh wow I always thought it was some sort of riff on a punishment for noisy kids haha, like โput a sock in your mouth, you noisy cretinโ. This is much better!
I wasn't joking either. My moms boyfriend shoved a sock in my mouth, put duct tape over it, duct taped my hands behind my back and plugged my nose with a clothespin because I had a cold and he didn't like it when I sniffled.
bexyrex ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:40:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
O.o
Even tho I totally get that these things happen and have experienced similar degrees of abuse I just don't get HOW other people do such atrocious things.
Luckily (?) for me I was always tiny and easy to overpower. But when my brother would get beatings my mom used to tie him up in the bathroom and THEN beat him.
Cheers!/s
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just fucking cringe when I hear how people abuse their kids. I canโt comprehend how they can be so torturous to their own babes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kid is only 9 months old, but I've had quite a few frustrating moments with him. I think that every parent has. I've never done anything to harm him though. I always remind myself that he's a baby and nothing is his fault, he's just tiny and defenseless.
I think that some people don't stop to empathize with the child that is in their care and at their mercy. You're the adult, you're supposed to be keeping them safe and raising them. You're allowed to be frustrated, you're allowed to be mad, you're not allowed to harm your kid just because you're angry or frustrated.
Some people are just pieces of shit though and they enjoy abusing their kids.
I haven't even been frustrated with him for quite a few months, I think that it just took some time for my dad instincts to kick in.
Yeah I always thought it was that, probably because when I was a little girl my brother and his friend held me down and stuffed a dirty sock in my mouth and Iโd never felt so helpless in my life before. What a memory.
That is debatable. Also I have never seen any gramophone-contemporary media that has someone doing that, and I consume a lot of gramophone-contemporary media.
In my country they use "change the disc" when a person is being annoying and repeating the same thing. When a vinyl disc is damaged, the needle of the turntable could be locked on a groove and repeat the same part over and over.
Urm, It's still a thing.... That's how bass works on speakers. Does nothing for a tweeter, but if you block the air port (generally with sponges these days, cut to size) it dampens the bass (i.e. woofer) massively. My stereo speakers came with them, but I don't use them because I listen to mainly electronic music. Cheap ones won't (so you'd have to use a sock) but if you spend some money, they certainly will!
Look at the bass drum of rock bands. Sometimes you see blankets and pillows In there. Same principle.
I can see a (load 10 more comments) and below that a (load 29 more comments,) so I won't make the obvious masturbation joke that this comment obviously is.
Speaking of Xbox it named as such to be 'Direct- X Box' which was the Microsoft software that most game engines used for PCs. The Xbox was then created to make a hardware format that wasn't subject to compatibility issues that could be found when running other software in a complete operating system like Windows. Now all Xboxs have Windows 10 so the name meaning doesn't really apply anymore but I the brand stuck.
V2G2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:47:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the book 1984, Orwell has Big Brother placing the listening devices in peoples' homes. He had no clue people would not only put those listening devices in their homes willingly, but pay for the privilege.
Seriously though how self-absorbed do you have to be to think they are using it for anything except how to advertise to you? All they care about is money. Nobody cares what hentai your gross ass masturbates to, or who you voted for.
The concern is never what they want to do now, it's what will be done with that data in the future. Sure, all of your activities may be legal now; however, if in the future a repressive regime wants to expunge certain people from society, it is much easier to accomplish if they have a pre-made list of those people.
At the risk of having you scream, "Godwin Rule" at me: Consider what a Jew in 1930's Europe might have done differently, if they had been aware of what was coming. At the time, while Jews were not exactly welcomed with open arms, there was no reason to hide the fact that one was Jewish. When the Nazi's came to power in 1934, many Jews probably wished they could hide their heritage.
Yes, we don't have anything like that on the horizon; however, can you guarantee to me that it will never happen? We've already had concentration camps in the US once. We've also had the US Government actively persecuting people for their political beliefs. We don't know what information about us will be abused in the future. The only way to prevent the abuse of that information is to not let it be collected in the first place.
Lagduf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huxley predicted this in Brave New World.
dtdroid ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:57:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the question.
Zuzlae ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:28:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shit you not, my roommate called her Alexa a whore the other day, so it turned its volume all the way up and basically shouted "That's not a very nice thing to say!"
No way it turned the volume up. Can anyone else confirm?
magsfran ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:14:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who works on Alexa. It seems like none of that drivel is worth listening to... (people are super boring it turns out)
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:24:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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C4H8N8O8 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:31:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's what the cameras are for.
magsfran ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:14:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon are not selling your information because that information is all for them. They are the product, the business, the customer, and the seller. They don't need to sell to advertisers.
Speech-to-text has gotten really good, storage is cheap, and text doesn't take up too much space. I'm guessing they're just data mining everything said in your house, and tailoring your recommendations accordingly.
B-Knight ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:17:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've put a camera in her now. People will still buy it. They make it easy for the spying agencies.
I was so sceptical about Alexa but got one bundles in with a 4k TV for like ยฃ500. Man, I have no idea what I'd do without her. Tap play on my phone like a peasent? No thank you.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 23:25:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... What rights are going away with voice activated assistants, again? You do know they don't send all the data, right? They send a short preamble to the activation word, then the question until silence. Set up a packet sniffer if you don't believe it.
So as long as you don't say "Hey Google what's the weather gee willikers I can't wait until we kill the president!" it won't get transmitted... right?
People who don't understand technology or packet sniffing think that Alexa/Google Home/whatever are listening in and sending everything to their servers. This, of course, isn't true-- whenever this has happened (due to a hardware or software malfunction) it's been detected within minutes (just do a google search for the google mini always listening bug) and been fixed.
sesor33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people still think that Echos and google homes are constantly sending what they hear to their respective companies? The amount of bandwidth it would take to do that would be very noticeable, and itโs not like they can locally store it either without having a literal hard drive in them.
Notice the first video had her not answering the question with the 2nd video having an updated answer after a software update
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you were really concerned about privacy, you'd dump all of your electronics with microphones in them. Unlike HAL 9000's retarded cousin, it's proven that the NSA listens on you through said devices 24/7.
Lol, I'm aware that it's listening in on you. I actually was very surprised it gave me a legit answer when I asked it, though. They have some gall to lie flat out like that.
Turns off microwave. Goes to the tip. Bins microwave. Drives home. Leaves car. Walks to the woods. Builds hut. Bins black and decker
whats8 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:44:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Binning" will be lost on the heads of many, many users here, as the term has zero existence in the US or CA. Just wanted to point that out, because even though I'm familiar with it your post confused me on my first read.
pdsvwf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use "binning" and I am from the US. Admittedly, when I use the term I mean something more like "clumping data into groups to put on a histogram" rather than "throwing away"...
pdsvwf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found a youtube comment on that video that seems to match my suspicions, so I will quote it here without verification:
Very interesting stuff but one thing that stood out to me is that they mentioned "Loudspeaker" several times in the video. I checked out the PDF on the link provided for the project webpage and according to that, the sounds produced were in the 80 - 110 dB range! I did not find in the PDF a distance measurement from the source speaker to the medium being recorded but by the example photo on page 4, it appears to be 1.5 - 2 feet away. The setup noted also required a 5,000+ FPS camera and professional lighting to get it to work.
This is not to say that down the road the techniques to recovers sound would not be improved but these were by far best possible case controlled tests. The limiting factor of recovered audio would be the quality of the video and the actual volume of the audio to be recovered. In short, if you aren't yelling at the top of your lungs and can notice someone sneaking into your room to setup some pro lighting and a camera then you can consider yourself safe. It stands to reason that this sort of approach is only viable in an indoor controlled environment because the slightest shift in the wind would throw off your results unless you had enough other objects in the frame that were also affected equally from the wind so the processing could compensate for the shifts.๏ปฟ
Credit to youtube commentor Ben Childs.
In short, I think a microphone is still probably a better choice for recording sound.
hm___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:55 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
of course a microphone is better but this proof of concept video is already more than 3 years old so its a safe bet that this stuff works better nowadays and the fact that even soundproof rooms can be wiretapped if theres only a semi soft object in the line of sight inside the room is sort of creepy
Its crazy idk if you have seen but this guy figured out how to use the structural resonance of any electronic item like a printer or anything and turn it into a microphone pretty much with this software and although its not super clear like it doesnt sound as good as a mic it is pretty fucking incredible he can hack into anything plugged in pretty much and relay that signal back.
Yvaelle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or every cell phone. Thatโs why Siri knows when to respond to her name, because she is always listening.
Yeah. I always get ads on fb based on my conversations.
Yvaelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea exactly. Siri is a gossip, she talks about you to all the other big data players. Privacy is a comfortable lie we tell ourselves, the internet knows everything, it sees all, it is God.
I thought of that when I made the post. Unless it's some godlike mic that can listen through concrete that my wifi won't work through I think I'm okay ๐ถ
I used to work with twin-ax.... two coaxial cables used to run data. We sometimes used vampire taps to splice in to the cable, which was a clamp that pierced the cable to add a node. Luckily I didn't mess with that stuff long.
I saw an awesome large scale shade structure that ran power over thick speaker wire, and used vamp taps to put an outlet anywhere they felt like it. Frikken genius.
I used to work for a place maintaining their phone system where I could literally "wiretap" people's lines and listen to their conversations. You just attached a little connector with two prongs to a phone and hooked it up the DN spot on the MDF and then put the phone on speaker and you could hear them talk. I only did it for maintenance though of course!
Euchre ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:10:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you need to learn about the differences between analog and digital. With old analog cell phones, the 'inductive tap' was called an antenna, and anyone could listen. We use digital now, for pretty much just that reason. What people here are talking about is copper conductor based, DC low voltage analog telephony. Being electromagnetic signals sent down a wire, you can easily physically tap into them, or use induction to listen in. For anyone with fiber optic to the house, you're harder pressed to listen in without the help of the telco.
I have a question though, I see "important" people using bar unsmart phone that don't have an internet connection. Does it make it harder for a Telco to listen in on that? Or is it because it only limits the conversation between the caller, the called and the Telco?
Euchre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:32 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it is much easier to compromise a smartphone, because they generally use a few widespread operating systems that are fairly well known, complex, and thus have a lot of access to 'testbeds', and functions to exploit to compromise the software. With Android in particular, most of it is open source, so you can poke through the source to find a flaw. If something gains permissions to listen to your mic or interject itself into a call, then you're pretty much compromised. All this would be at the device level, so no special need to interject yourself as a 'man in the middle', or eavesdropping at the phone network level.
The basic phones (not smartphones) use much simpler, proprietary software (firmware, really). They're not much beyond electromechanical devices. At the device level, it is extremely hard if not impossible to interject yourself into a call. You'd have to interject yourself into the call at the network level, which isn't so trivial.
Modern digital cell conversations are a session based connection, and encryption is a native part of it. By compromising the smartphones, you can get the conversation from the pre and post encryption (outgoing vs incoming) point, so no dealing with breaking the encryption. Since 'dumb' phones virtually can't be compromised, you have to try to break the encryption, or trick the network into doing it for you. Now, the way the encryption is done, even for the telco it isn't trivial. That's by design, to discourage telcos from getting nosy.
Once upon a time, eavesdropping involved physically being in the eavesdrop, which was the area under a house's eaves in order to listen in on the conversations going on inside.
Look up the US Navy โtappingโ of Soviet cables using divers, submarines and big old underwater boxes. They used inductance off the cables to transfer info to reels of tapes they had to sneak in and change out.
Itโs some pretty cool Cold War stuff, the Russians have one of the box thingys in a museum in Moscow
Fuck dude, I've been meaning to watch the rest. I've only watched season 1, and so far it's been some of the best tv I've ever seen. Hopefully once holidays start I can get going again. I miss me some Jimmy fuckin' McNulty!
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The wire was a separate portable recording device that used metal wire as a medium. The common usage of "he's wearing a wire!" name refers to this device rather than a wiretap.
rab777hp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No in the show it's mostly about tapping phone lines
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:16:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The program you're referring to collected metadata (a.k.a phone records), not actual call recordings. It was information the phone companies collect anyway and would have been available to even the local police with a warrant. The issue wasn't the information they were collecting, it was how they were collecting it (i.e. without a warrant).
0_0_0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is fed by fiber optic lines from beam splitters installed in fiber optic trunks carrying Internet backbone traffic and, as analyzed by J. Scott Marcus, a former CTO for GTE and a former adviser to the FCC, has access to all Internet traffic that passes through the building, and therefore "the capability to enable surveillance and analysis of internet content on a massive scale, including both overseas and purely domestic traffic."
The comment I'm replying to:
Now the phone companies just pass all that information straight to government spy agencies.
What I said it still completely accurate. The NSA's surveillance of phone lines was of metadata, not phone calls. I wasn't referring to their internet surveillance program.
bsbbtnh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:30:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WAY more than that. Snowden showed us a lot of the secret surveillance programs. Some of the interesting ones are xKeyscore, where they can search essentially anything done on the internet. From emails, to google searches, who is using VPN/proxy/encryption. They showed that the US government were working very closely with Apple, Google, Skype, Facebook, Microsoft, and many others.
They showed that the US and UK had "broken into" the main communications link of Yahoo and Google. Those companies didn't encrypt their data. (When users would make a search, even with SSL encryption, after google got the request and sent it to their servers for processing, they wouldn't encrypt that. So NSA could see everything.) Those may not have been the only two companies that were compromised.
There are hundreds of sites around the world that were processing over 10 gigabits/s. Some over 2 terabits/s. And they were talking about upgrades to cables that can transmit 100 gigabits/s.
There is the stateroom project, which operated in embassies around the world, and gather information on many people. This is the project that was recording Angela Merkel's (German Chancellor) phone calls for over ten years.
Don't forget that many countries (France, Germany, US, UK, Canada, Australia etc) are "spying" on each other's citizens, and then passing that information on to the citizen's country, to bypass the need for warrants.
Anyways, back in 2013ish, basically everything on the net was being recorded and kept, somewhere, for at least 3 days, and metadata for at least 30. I can only imagine that the amount of time this data is kept has increased significantly.
If you want to read something scary, read about TIA (Total Information Awareness) from 2003 ish, which was basically the US attempt at precrime, some Minority Report type shit. They renamed it Terrorism Information Awareness after it came under scrutiny for being too broad. Then it was shut down, though many of its components were continued, and a successor named "Basketball" picked up about a year later.
Oh, and don't forget that to wiretap people nowadays, all the FBI has to do is point and click. They don't even have to bother the phone company anymore. Of course, they need a warrant..
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
where they split a good chunk of all US internet traffic
The comment I replied to:
Now the phone companies just pass all that information
Analyzing internet traffic and analyzing phone metadata were two separate programs. They didn't have a program in place to record all phone calls, they just collected metadata for phone calls. AT&T mobility is not the same division as the division of AT&T that provided Internet backbone services.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
VOIP is going to be in there, but the conversation is about phone records. If you have VOIP service from a traditional phone company, your phone records would be the same as a standard analog landline. The thing about AT&T you linked refers to their internet backbone services; it's a large chunk of all internet traffic, not just AT&T customers.
But even then, it's still not recording the traffic, it's analyzing the metadata in real-time; that's called Semantic Traffic Analysis, and again, it's similar to what ISPs are doing anyway.
We can be pretty sure that it wasn't recording traffic because it wouldn't have been possible to record hundreds of gigabits per second in 2004. And now, it wouldn't really be feasible to record several terabits per second either.
Now we buy the wiretap for hundreds and give them weird names like Alexa or Siri... also everyone used to say don't use your real name online or talk to strangers, nowadays most emails ARE people's names and we literally not only talk to strangers but we order them and get into their cars haha.. ohhh the future
It's entirely possible to tap fiber optics. It's just not done very much because it's much easier to tap the software sending the signals, and the information on the cables can be encrypted.
pehvbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But 'having a wire' (i.e. a recording device) was because the original spooled magnetically written and read media was made of wire not tape.
Krail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More specifically, sound would be recorded as grooves in the wire, the same way it's recorded as grooves in a record.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:27:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those things are still used nowadays. My buddy uses one with his [secret work]. Digital signals can 'leak' down the power cables of computers etc, so it's possible to 'tap' the wires and make out some details from what's being transmitted. Scary stuff!
Once upon a time, "tapping" referred to putting a pipe in a fluid vessel (like a tree) and putting a spigot into it.
tahlyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And "tapping" is a phrase that literally means what you think it does... you tap into the existing wire to put something on it. Electricians still regularly do Taps (T-Taps, for example) to splice things into existing wires. And for some industries, like fire alarm... T-tapping is NOT the preferred method for adding devices.
sckurvee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People got all bent out of shape when Trump said he didn't mean he was literally wire tapped when he said he was wire tapped... It made perfect sense when you think about it in this sense, but it was a much funnier headline to imply he was being a buffoon.
dk133333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair.....it still works that way, you just have to get into the CO or tap the "port" for their cell phone at the local switch.
jebuz23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I always pictured the process still involved this some how. I know that's dumb since everything is digital and wireless, but I still picture someone physically touching the phone wire for some reason.
Rayfax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this was demonstrated in one of the Fullmetal Alchemist series. I can't remember if it was the original or Brotherhood, but now that scene with Hawkeye and Sheska makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought I was like taping a tree, you insert a listening device in the trunk line but is small enough the leaves don't care.
We still have these. They are basically buttsets in the telecommunications world. I use one all the time at work. It even has sharp teeth in the alight or clips so I don't have to strip the red/green or what ever pair it's on.
mrbkkt1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once upon a time a wiretap required a warrant as well.
squigs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I like to think there was a time where civil liberties meant basic rights rather than what the government thought it could get away with.
mrbkkt1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought we, as a population would fight for our rights. Now we give them up willingly.
jrhooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in computing a "vampire tap" is still taught. Same thing.
I don't really understand what you mean, but I'll try to explain anyway.
If a wire is connected from point A to B and used for communication, it is absolutely secure unless someone physically connects to it.
By landline I meant a wire, not exactly a landline. Those are connected to a central building that does the switching. You still need physical access to the line, but because the place where they make the connection is not secret, it's easy to intercept messages.
RJwhores ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 20:41:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the 1950s when I was a little boy, the movie theater was always a double feature - your ticket bought you two movies (including the drive-in). A couple of cartoons preceded the first movie and trailers were played in-between movies.
And that's where all the Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies shorts came from. They're in color because they were created on film before color TV was a thing.
cyanblur ยท 744 points ยท Posted at 23:01:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also used to be required to include songs from the Warner Bros library.
I wouldn't be surprised if the shortening of "cartoons" to "toons" was aided by the public's familiarity with Looney Tunes. Or it could just be a play on words.
a full-size drawing made on sturdy paper as a study or modello for a painting, stained glass or tapestry. Cartoons were typically used in the production of frescoes, to accurately link the component parts of the composition when painted on damp plaster over a series of days
Classical artists like Raphael and Leonardo Da Vinci created "cartoons".
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:08:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Mandela effect in total is complete pseudoscience. Every single instance is such an extreme jump to conclusions. i know ockham's razor is not a scientific principle, nor should it be the end all say all of claims, however, using it as common sense obliterates these claims.
I find it interesting that many of the pieces of "evidence" are that almost all Mandela effects have appeared in the Simpsons or similar shows.
From this, I like to personally call it the "Simpsons" effect, because my personal hypothesis of the situation (not supported by any evidence mind you), is that the Simpsons or another pop culture satire would make a joke about something, either change the reference to suit the joke, or get the reference wrong plain and simple. And because lots of people would watch this, as well as this being the latest version of the reference/media they remember, they would just assume it matches the original.
I am also a supporter of the idea that it is just the brain filling in the context, thus changing things are for simplicity (i.e. luke i am your father makes more sense out of context than no I am your father) cause the effect.
edit: I don't english well
bsbbtnh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:01:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, the mandela effect isn't pseudoscience unless you see it solely attached to the people who seriously think we're just jumping between dimensions, or w/e. But many don't take it that serious, they just pretend to.
I just see Mandela Effect to mean 'A commonly misremembered detail'. Something similar to Deja Vu.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should have clarified that this post was referenced to those who truly believe the Mandela effect to be proof of alternative dimensions (Mainly the people who hear about this probably from people joking around and take it as fact)(I am also not saying that this means alternative dimensions don't exist (I don't know my stance on this), just that use of the Mandela effect as evidence is crazy). I do agree it is a fun thought experiment, but I fail to see any real value beyond that. I was tempted to add this on as an edit, but thought it was already long enough.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people actually believe in the Mandeka effect as that alternate universe shit? I assume most are joking on them just remembering shit wrongly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am sure there are some who actually believe this, but it is probably a small harmless minority.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Kind of like flat earthers without the conspiracy theory.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there are way to many youtube videos on that for everyone to be trolls. Its really sad actually.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The parsimony principle is a scientific principle, but I am not sure how well it stands outside of biology. I only remember it for evolutionary trees needing to be the simplest they can be, however, that doesn't mean it is not at all used in other sciences. I am also not saying the concepts of simpler answers the better does not apply in science (in regards to including as much evidence as possible), just that it is not as cut and dry as occam's (thanks for correcting me) razor would imply.
edit:clarification
Wikipedia occam's razor in science "In science, Occam's razor is used as a heuristic guide in the development of theoretical models, rather than as a rigorous arbiter between candidate models.[1][2] In the scientific method, Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic or a scientific result; the preference for simplicity in the scientific method is based on the falsifiability criterion. For each accepted explanation of a phenomenon, there may be an extremely large, perhaps even incomprehensible, number of possible and more complex alternatives. Since one can always burden failing explanations with ad hoc hypotheses to prevent them from being falsified, simpler theories are preferable to more complex ones because they are more testable"
Part of the problem is that the later "Tiny Toons" didn't keep with the "Tune" spelling. I was old enough to notice the spelling by the time I was watching Tiny Toons, so I retroactively assumed it was Looney Toons as well.
riss85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whaaaaaat?! I could have sworn it was!
BlueAux ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:07:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure Tiny Toons threw a lot of people for a loop.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:06:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that practically all early TV cartoon shows were also recorded in color, even though they were never in theaters, and played on early TV in black and white. I think the reason is - the "ink and painter" artists had to painstakingly produce each cell for filming, and it's just as easy to 'paint' in color, as in shades of gray. So the only difference in cost would have been the difference between color and B&W film, which I suspect, was not that great.
The big expense for color TV, when the transition came (NBC first in the late 50s, then the other 2 networks in the mid 60s) was in the technology needed for broadcasting in color, not the comparable cost of filming...though there was a difference there, too.
There were a few early live-action TV shows filmed in color, possibly because the producers thought they would be more valuable for sale in the color-future. Oddly, one such show was the otherwise rock-bottom budget "Superman" with George Reeves, in the early 50s.
You can watch a ton of them on YouTube, even the kinda racist ones.
Willziac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why Betty Boop was always black and white?
5bi5 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:50:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ONE Betty Boop was made in color. It was too cost-prohibitive to use Technicolor technology so Fleischer studios figured out how to do it on their own. They really only figured out shades of orange and blue. She has red hair in it instead of black:
Thatโs because the colder weather slows down the air molecules which inhibits the radio waves carrying the audio to the cars. The light from the projector isnโt affected due to light being so fast, so thereโs a lag between the video and audio which makes it unwatchable and I just made all that up.
I thought this was bullshit because I remember going to the drive in when I was a kid in the winter. Then I thought perhaps the fact that I grew up near the equator meant it didn't get cold enough for this to occur, then I read you made it up and I was duped.
I thought this was bullshit because I remember going to the drive in when I was a kid in the winter. Then I thought perhaps the fact that I grew up near the equator meant it didn't get cold enough for this to occur, then I read you made it up and I was bamboozled.
There is a drive-in theater within a respectable driving distance of me. I saw Batman vs Superman before getting to see Deadpool for the fifth time on a fun little date, it was a great time.
We have one too. Used to get there with the BMW of my father. Can you believe that you can't turn off your lights when the car isn't completely shut down? If the battery is running and you turned on AC you can't turn off the lights. I learned that in a very cold night.
It blows my mind how rarely people use their parking brakes. My driving instructor (both in the UK and then in the US) stressed using it by default in basically every circumstance.
These days I never see people using them, and I can't imagine why not.
Even just using the indicator. It's such a trivial, simple motion to use them, but the resulting safety and convenience for everyone involved is so significant.
When driving a manual, put the edge of your foot on the brake and roll it onto the accelerator while letting off the clutch. This is how I learned to drive when I was a teenager, and it became habit. I still don't get why people roll back, even if just a little.
Because nobody taught them how to use a clutch properly, how to stop on a hill without rolling back with a manual clutch, to speed up to freeway speed when merging on to a freeway, one car length is not worth it, etc, etc.
Today one of the best deterrents for car theft is a manual transmission, because the thieves can't drive them. How sad is that?
P.S. What you're describing is called "heel and toe", and is not just used to keep a car on a hill, but also for downshifting while braking and downshifting going into a corner (used a lot, at least by me).
If you use your heel on the brake and your toe(s) on the gas, you have a lot more control overall and you don't have to roll your foot. Imagine your foot like this: / with your heel on the brake and your toes on the gas. Then you can brake with your leg and gas with your foot. Works a treat, I swear it.
Good cars have this in mind when placing the pedals. Cheap cars do not, but you can still find ways to do it.
I have heard some pretty far fetched stories as a tech, but never a car starting by itself. Even if that was possible, the engine running at idle rpm would stall out almost immediately. And for that not to happen the starter would need to be stuck on magically?
Some cars might be able to move at idle in first gear, but probably not be able to overpower the emergency brake. I doubt anything could move in anything other than 1st though.
I fully understand that aspect of it, I just disagree with the need to leave the car in neutral. I've never heard of a car turning itself on automatically, and I've driven multiple cars that have e-brake failures once they get old enough. A loose or broken cable is infinitely more common than a car magically starting itself.
I would rather have my car in first or reverse with the e-brake on. In that case, the gear can prevent the car from moving after the brake fails, and even if the car essentially bump-starts itself, coasting downhill in 1st is better than coasting in neutral anyways (because the car is then engine braking while rolling downhill). Or just throw it in reverse when facing downhill and 1st whole facing uphill. If you're that paranoid, it's extra protection against bump-starts. Even if that somehow destroys the transmission if the brake fails, that's still better than a totalled car.
And if the car automatically turns itself on magically and then drives away while in gear, somehow overcoming the e-brake? Fuck it, I'm pretty sure at that point I'm suing my cars manufacturer anyways.
I don't care what reasons you use for ignoring the recommendations and suggestions of people who know way better than you. You do your thing, champ. Good luck.
Well in that case, I decided to look up the information that my cars manufacturer recommended, since they know so much more than me.
If the vehicle has a manual
transmission, before getting out of
the vehicle, move the shift lever into
R (Reverse) if parking on a downhill
slope. On a level surface or an
uphill slope, use 1 (First) gear.
Firmly apply the parking brake. Turn
the wheels toward the curb for a
downhill slope, or away from the
curb for an uphill slope. Once the
shift lever has been placed into gear
with the clutch pedal pressed in,
turn the ignition key to LOCK/OFF,
remove the key, and release the
clutch.
It's almost like some of us who drive stick actually take the time to comprehend how the engine and transmission work on our vehicles, before making decisions on how to use it.
Thoughts?
E - And now that we are on the topic of thinking, why do you think they developed automatic transmissions with a "park" option instead of just leaving it in neutral? Why can't you remove your key in an automatic until it's in park? Because nothing good can come from leaving a vehicle in neutral with only a brake holding it in place.
I'm sorry, I just assumed you were going to do some abstract thinking here and actually contemplate what we are talking about. I didn't realize your arguments would amount to (a) "I don't care what reasons you use" instead of actually discussing the rationale, and (b) nitpicking a single word out of my owner's manual to hide your lack of understanding of the concepts involved here, and disinterest in using your cognitive abilities.
I guess I was just looking to have someone stop and think about what we are talking about, and use that big old brain of theirs to actually talk things through. Maybe if someone actually came along and gave a rational argument as to why I could be wrong, then I would reconsider. But some trivial comments like yours just reinforce people's opinions, because you aren't actually giving any counter point.
But oh well. Look at the bright side - as long as you personally use an automatic and are forced to use the failsafe that is designed into the transmission, then you won't have to use your brain and think to use the transmission failsafe on a manual that is legitimately the exact same thing.
I'm sure you felt all smug and self-righteous as you labored over the proper words to choose. Since you realized I don't care what you think, how did you fail to take that into account while you lamely tried to insult me? Put the parking brake on, that is its entire reason for being there. The transmission isn't for holding a car on a hill, I don't care what you say. You obviously are great at being rude and snide on the internet, but you suck at knowing anything about the mechanical parts of a car and what their purpose is or how to use them.
Don't bother with another snide remark, you're blocked
Its actually because many people start the car (clutch down) and then immediately lift up their foot. If the car is left in gear, it will lurch forward even despite the parking break and potentially hit something (not to mention the wear on the clutch and transmission).
There have been multiple cases of this happening and causing accidents. I don't care if you believe me. I've driven a car across a farm on the starter with the car in reverse before. Go ahead and tell me I haven't. Jesus Christ, Reddit. Do some damn research, use common sense, stop being so caustic.
I looked it up, very few and far between. Iโm skeptical of many people are claiming this for the shock value alone. I would argue itโs still worth it for everyone else to park in gear if youโre not part of the one in a million with one of these magic cars. If your park brake fails, which it can, it would be nice to have a redundancy in place to keep your car from becoming a rolling projectile. Thatโs not even to mention turning your wheels into the curb on a hill.
The only way the parking brake will fail is some serious mechanical issues. If your car has serious mechanical issues, you shouldn't be driving it, much less worried about the parking brake. Parking brakes are mechanical and do not depend on anything except the lever in your vehicle to function. Cars have started in gear, moved and cause accidents. What in the world is wrong with putting it in neutral and using the brake for its intended purpose, which is what all the vehicle manufacturers recommend anyway? Also, always turn your wheels towards the curb, uphill or downhill.
Cable snaps, stretches, or otherwise loses tension and there you have it. The return springs will release the park brake and now your car is rolling away...
Apparently you don't know as much about braking systems as you think.
Joetato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:45:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father taught me to always use it if the car was being shut off. I mentioned it to my ex once, because she never used it. Her answer was "This is an emergency brake. There's no emergency going on." and never pulled it.
Peil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This could only happen in American suburbs, because everywhere else there is a risk of parking on some form of incline... Seriously, like how did this girl not lose her car?
Joetato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The car still stays in place if it's an automatic and you put it in park, so her car stayed in place because it was an automatic.
I wonder, what kind of emergency would that brake actually improve the situation in? If i'm not mistaken, isn't it often only attached to one wheel anyway?
Well in a manual/standard transmission it could โslipโ out of gear and roll down the hill. But in an automatic that isnโt really a possibility so you donโt have to worry about it. And so many American cars these days are automatics.
I experienced the roll back once when my car rolls out of the drive way and across the street into their yard missing their gas meter for the house by 3 or 4 inches.
MadIzzy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:50:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have one near me in Michigan. We try to take the family there at least once or twice a summer. The kids love being able to watch movies in their PJs out of the back of the mini van. Making memories like the ones I have from my childhood watching from the back of my dad's chevette.
PoiLethe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:56:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was very little I remember sitting in the back if my dads truck in a pile of blankets watching Pocahontas. We weren't big movie goers though. Our local one shut down over ten years ago. My parents tend to do movie theaters backwards too. They decide they want to see a movie that night and then pick what movie they want to see. They are then disappointed by the experience and "movies these days".
Thatโs not so bad, I hate the feeling of getting really behind on all the new movies. I have no urge to keep up with that stuff. Going randomly would be fun, perhaps not already knowing what to expect.
There's still a drive in in Las Vegas. And it's still pretty damn cool. The sound comes over your radio now, in stereo or whatever your auto's sound system can handle. You have your comfy as hell car seats. You can't hear that annoying asshole who won't shut the fuck up during the movie (unless it is the person you brought with you, sorry about your luck). I mean, really... why are these places disappearing?
EDIT: I forgot to mention the luxury seats theater we have close by now. I won't go anywhere else but the drive-in. Those seats are the shizzle, you can drink and eat and watch a movie on a huge screen with incredible sound. Now if I could just eliminate the annoying people who talk and get on their phones at a movie....
The drive-in near me is honestly the place where every teen hangs out on Friday nights. You can watch a movie while being as loud as you want in your own car while maybe tossing around balls before/after the movie. Itโs great. And itโs only $4!
JoeyDJQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's one where I live also. Only 8 dollars a ticket for a double feature. Been open forever. Feels like a blast from the past when I go every few years.
http://www.theshowboatdrivein.com/
ken830 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still have one here in the SF Bay Area. It's really the only way to see and enjoy a movie with really young kids. They can bring their own food, talk loudly, cry, nurse, whatever. Plus, with our Model S and the rear-facing seats, we park with the trunk facing the screen and the kids love the whole experience of hanging out in their own little space.
spmahn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drive Ins still exist, but they arenโt so great anymore in the era of digital cinema. Digital Technology does not lend itself well to outdoor exhibition because the lighting is totally different than it was for film projection, and a lot of the light gets lost outdoor, so you end up with a muddy washed out picture
xiaodown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, at the late night double feature picture show
The drive in where I live only does double features. Its like a football field with screens on either end located way out in the countryside, and the couple that owns it have been running it for close to 40 years now. Its a local treasure.
I worked at a drive-in for a summer a few years ago, they also did double features.
That place had been open for more than 50 years, sadly it recently closed because business wasn't spectacular and they couldn't afford the upgrade to digital.
Same here. They close from October to May I believe here.
JessHex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live near one in central PA and they always do double features! Not many other places where you can pay $8 for two movies. I always try to go a few times each summer.
"B" movies were lower budget movies, although frankly what I remember is that both movies were often very good.
What is amazing to me is how things changed in life overall. When I grew up in the 1950s, virtually all of the moms were home and didn't work. We were middle class - far from wealthy - but our dads made enough money to support our family without our mothers having to work - and that included a full pension in retirement.
So, to me, the "double feature" of the 1950s is an indicator of how good things were then. Today both parents have to work to support a family and that does not include a pension. And we only get one movie at the theater.
Peil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People complain about how movies have gone now, but in actual fact, it's not that far from the golden age of Hollywood. "A" movies were the "tentpole" pictures of the studios, which have evolved into, well, superhero movies. B movies were the smaller budget, fill in the gaps movies. Nowhere in the definition of A or B movies does quality come into it, although of course most B movies make for pretty poor viewing. It's sad that B movies have disappeared, because with studios making absolutely obscene amounts of money nowadays, despite low theatre attendance, they could churn out a dozen dramas, comedies, horrors a year and not even feel it in their pockets. The big spectacles make the bulk of the money, and they always have. The sad part is that it's not being spent any more.
Weird I always assumed b movies were related to b side songs which were named for the side of the record (and then tapes).
MikeKM ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:14:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My only memory of a drive-in during the 1980s was teenagers using their parents SUV to have sex in it and then talk loudly about how it was (the sex) when they opened the doors.
Do you sit on low toilets? Or do you lowly sit on toilets? Currently sitting on a low toilet.
MikeKM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one that sticks out the most was the first time it was announced when two people got out the back of a mid-80s GMC Jimmy, the girl complained about something jabbing her in the back while they were doing it. He said it must have been a screw or something.
Edit - I'm 36, may not be your dad. I grew in up Cottage Grove in Minnesota, used to go to the drive in there where a Wal Mart now sits.
I honestly never thought about people seeing color films on projectors. I just assumed everything was black and white until color television became a thing.
For a long time animation was the only moving pictures in color. The limiting factor was the exposure times required for color film to come out correctly. Required exposure time for animated films didn't really matter, live action was a whole different story.
Jarrgon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First time colour photo was 1861 according to wikipedia.
They did used to show colour movies by painting on the film though.
My memory of drive ins during the early 2000s was going with my friend, his sad & stepmom. Me and my friend would hide in the very back of the SUV under a blanket along with all the snacks. Sometimes my friends sister would come too but his dad only ever paid for 2 tickets each time we went. Last one I remember seeing was Jurassic Park III / Planet of the Apes.
HSerrata ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:49:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:01:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off the subject but I love that Reddit has people of every age commenting. That is what makes it one of the best social media apps.
I bought a personal computer in 1977. I was on the "internet" by 1982 or so (Compuserve). I still program in C and C++ as a hobby. It would be very odd for me not to be on reddit or the internet.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. I don't think it's unusual for you to be on the internet, just most social media apps are geared towards one age group only but Reddit is for everyone. I will read comments from 15 year olds and 60 year olds. Love the perspective from a wide audience.
Don't worry... someone will show up soon to lecture you on how bad things really were back then, in an attempt to make you feel guilty about enjoying simple pleasures.
pgm123 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two movie tickets for two movies and a couple of sodas for less than $10.
I used to work with a guy that was really old and grew up in the town I now live in. He used to tell me that when he was a boy he would take a dime to the movies and after spending 5 cents on the movie and a penny each on popcorn and soda he would still have 3 cents left over.
"Giving someone your two cents" actually is descended from "a penny for your thoughts." They only asked for a penny, but you tell them more than they wanted to hear.
I found a $10 bill once. I was rich kid for six months.
isaacms ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:23:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My step father used to tell me that he would get a quarter as allowance every week. And every week he'd go to the movies and buy a ticket for ten cents, drink for five cents, and snack for five cents. He's in his late 50s. Hard to believe I recently spent FORTY for burgers, drinks, and candy for my girlfriend and I, and that doesn't even include the tickets. And yes, there is a theater here where you can buy food and eat during the movie.
fkuthtsy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Studio movie grill is my shit. I can drink mojitos and order a pizza and cheese fries. What's not to love about it.
pgm123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a few of those near me. One had a discount movie night for $2, but unfortunately raised the discount night to $7.
danchiri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they do this at the New Beverly Cinema in LA! They always play old trailers that fit within the theme of the movie about to be shown and a cartoon or two between/before their feature presentations
Most drive in movie theatres still open these days still offer the two for one deal. I rarely stay for both films though because that's a long time to sit in my car no matter how comfy the seats are and how amazing it is to have surround sound in your car.
A lot of that was a holdover from the Great Depression. In order to keep audiences coming in, theaters often did "double features", or had food for their audiences (sometimes free).
One of those tactics stayed common. The other, unfortunately, not so much.
Surprisingly, yes! Especially with all of the new technology, filmmaking techniques, and more coming out almost monthly, audiences were flocking to the theaters in droves.
Stuff like Universal's monster movies were HUGE, although obviously that is relative, since audiences were much smaller than the modern era. And just a few years before the Depression, talkies came to be, bringing people in from all over to see and hear stories come to life.
And that doesn't count how liberating the industry was, socially. Women had a genuine place in the industry and in the representation, especially in the later 20s/early 30s, pre-Hays code.
Shit was poppin before the Depression. And honestly, the film industry actually was one of the few industries to thrive during the time.
jalleng ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still do this at The Cherry Bowl Drive-in in Honor, MI!
And when I was a kid, I used to go to the movie theater almost every Saturday afternoon (or to the drive-in Sat night - when I was 8-12 years old, our neighborhood used to go to the drive-in as a group of 3-4 cars - what a great time that was - parents would often sit in front of the cars on lawn chairs while the kids went on the swings and see-saw below the screen)
My mom once told me that they played movies in a loop and there were no "start times". You would just go to the movies, begin watching the film and wait for it to loop around to watch the beginning. She said that this was where the phrase "This is where I came in" originated. Did you ever experience this?
The one near me is 10 dollars a person to get in. It's a double feature and there are two different screens so you can watch one and if you don't like the one scheduled to play next you can move over to the other screen for a different choice.
Wow. I've been to a lot of drive-in movie theaters when I was growing up, but never one like that!
BigFish8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still do this in places, such as an drive in in British Columbia (Canada). It's all double headers with the cartoons at the start. You tune into a fm station for the sound instead of the speaker on the car.
But the speaker on the car used to also be a heater!
BigFish8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty cool. Didn't know that. It was a pretty cool experience when I went. I would definitely go again. It's a shame that there are very few places like it left.
I'm not that old. What we did was go to the multi-plex theaters. We'd pay for one movie, the just hang out and watch anywhere from two to four or five movies. We almost always bought popcorn and drinks, though, so those bastards got their money!! (No, I don't feel guilty at all, why do you even ask me such a thing!?!) I mean, umm... Fuck it, I'm leaving, I don't like this place any more.
EDIT: forgot to applaud the cartoons. people these days just never had that and don't get it. I don't know how to explain it, either. all I can say is "Bugs Bunny forever!"
In the early 1970s I saw both Patton and Catch-22 at the drive-in (not sure how they are reviewed now, but they were both great movies. And, if I recall correctly, Patton was a long movie).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Different times. Kinda wish I could experience peak drive-in movie culture, actually.
People's attention spans were a lot longer back when there were fewer entertainment options to choose from. Shakespearean play are hardly ever performed in full these days, because some of them run upwards of five hours.
And thatโs why people largely quit going to the movies today. Now?
For the cost of a movie ticket per month, I can watch any one of thousands of movies whenever I want, can pause anytime, and I can watch them anywhere including on a supercomputer in my pocket.
A billion dollars couldnโt buy that in 1957. Or in 1997.
Rocky Horror Picture Show were usually midnight showings.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A drive in near me does this still. They were able to raise enough money to switch to the digital age and now play new movies as a double feature. I love it.
They also frequently play old classics also double featured
And there were intermissions so you could take a piss without missing something. I don't know why intermissions aren't a thing anymore. I don't want to sit for 3 hours...and I need a refill.
Two features and cartoons. On Saturdays, me and my cousins would spend a whopping 35 cents to see Tarzan and Buck Rogers movies all afternoon while our parents did ...whatever.
KaareX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a cinema near me in the 90s that had a Sunday double feature for $7.50...they went out of business by 2000
This just made me remember the first time a bunch of highschool friends and i got arrested....(throw away because well it won't be hard to figure out who i am from this long story)
We used to have a drive in theatre in my little town! It was awesome! When i was like 14/15 (freshmen in highschool) i used to sleep at my buddys house on friday nights and we'd walk to the drive-ins and meet up with a bunch of our friends. There would always be like 10/15 kids and we'd always sneak in threw the broken fence and walk to the back corner. We'd drink and smoke the devils lettuce lol. It was awesome and soo much fun! Until one night there was a car parked in the back corner, next to where we always sat. We were going to move but said fuck it and stayed. And like any teenagers who are getting fucked up we were being loud and obnoxious. I got super stoned and my friend and i hit up my brother to come pick us up but he wouldnt. So not a half hour later a cop pulls up behind us and just sits there. We're all like shit do we run or stay, we decided to stay and all of a sudden 4'cops came from every angle. They start asking us questions and searchings us...i was soo friggen stoned i decided that i knew if i opened my mouth i'd say something stupid and get myself in more trouble so i didn't say a damn word to the cop (which really pissed him off) well after searching us all, they arrested us and put us like 4 deep in their cars. Bring us to the station and made us call our parents...my mom wasncamping so her & her boyfriend were the last to get there (thankfully my buddy stayed and waited with me) i wish i had a framed picture of my mothers face as she walked into the "interrogation room." My mom thought i was beyond innocent and did nothing bad. Well that was instantly crushed because on the table was the left overs of 2 30 racks of natty ice, a couple bottle of hard liquor in water/gatorade bottles, cigars, cigarettes, a couple rolled blunts and J's, a scale, and a couple other random things like knifes and anbaseball bat. All spread out on the table so when the parents walked in to the room with their son/daughter and the cops they were greeted with that lovely display...the cops obviously made it all sound over-dramatic and made us out to be huge criminals reeking havic when we were really just dumb teenagers trying to watch a movie and flirt with the girls we were with....they didn't charge us with any of it surprisingly but word got around quickly and come monday all the teachers and older kids heard about us all getting arrested and all the crap we had on us...i remember some teachers calling us trouble makers, while the football coach/gym teach joked around with us. If i remember correctly the school made all the freshmen go to the auditorium for an assembly and the dangers of drugs and alcohol...
Exactly what I thought. In all my years of being obsessed with movies, I haven't once thought to wonder why they were called trailers since I was 12 and the world was losing its mind over the Phantom Menace trailer, which is my first real memory of hearing the term in the context of movies. Then, I just accepted it was a word associated with previews of movies and never bothered thinking about it again.
I can't help but notice that his comment is now your most upvoted comment by a factor of 14, beating out a super insightful and heartfelt second place. Oh boy. Reddit is dumb
Is that the FBI one? Whatever happened to that? It threatened something like a $200k fine and it scared me when I was young... even though I did not have the equipment or technical know-how to pull a copy off.
aaronxxx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the term trailer didn't come back until YouTube
strikt9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean not really, if you go on the official YouTube channel of any movie company it is still "So and So Trailer 1/2/3" usually calling it a preview if it is very short but trailer is still very widely used.
gordigor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just watched Ellen show a teaser for the next Jurassic world movie. End of the preview said "trailer Tuesday".
Cow41087 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it was presumptuous of me to say "preview" is the common term now. As u/muscles8252 said, using "trailer" to describe a clip that is shown before a movie is the part that doesn't make sense. It's just about the order of viewing. "Trailer" should only be used to describe a clip of an upcoming attraction at the end of a movie. Clips shown before a movie or on a separate platform should be called "previews" or "teasers" because those terms don't imply a relation to anything other than what they're marketing. Calling a movie clip on YouTube a "trailer" is technically wrong because it doesn't come after anything.
_ESS83_ ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 20:59:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But technically, they're still shown after the last movie, right? The movie ends, and then it's trailer until the next one begins.
No, but by the time it's over, I'm ready to leave. Not that I don't enjoy the film, but at that point the last thing I want to do is think about upcoming movies.
I think it's because many (certainly not all) of the popular movies today are pretty bad and poorly made. So they feel longer because it's like a chore to watch.
And they really need to go back to the end of the fucking movie. My wife took our daughter to see a 4 oโclock movie that didnโt actually begin until 445. Thatโs an insane amount of time to add to a movie when you have little kids.
Same with B-movies. Nowdays its just referred to as a low budget movie, while it was still true before it was more called B-movie cause it was shown after the main feature which was the A-movie.
new_q ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:55:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So people would watch a movie.. And then sit around and watch trailers?
loukitch ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:05:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well firstly the movies back then were often shorter, and going the cinema was a big affair usually where you would dress up for it. The credits of a film were at the start of the film, not the end, so it would be immediately after the film finished you would see a trailer for the next one by the same studio.
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, they would mostly get up and leave. That s why they started running them at the front.
harzem ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Possibly why nobody I know in Australia calls them trailers. They've been "previews" all my life.
ripsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty certain they were called previews in Britain too at least circa 1980s as a kid, and we adopted the American term trailer in the years since especially with the advent of the Internet.
I don't think they were ever played after the movie, but rather were at the end of the physical film. The film engineer or whatever at the theatre would cut them off and put them at the front. I'm too lazy to find a source for this but heard it somewhere.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never knew this, but I guess it makes sense. I had the original Star Wars series VHS release and Empire Strikes Back has a trailer for A New Hope at the end. (I know, "Wouldn't you have seen ANH?" โ I think yes but it was advertising the fact that you could buy a copy)
Clip. I got corrected by a snotty 20-something when I referred to something I saw on YouTube as a โprogramโ. He said, โItโs called a clip.โ Yeah, Mr. 20-something... Do you have any idea why itโs called a clip?
To be totally honest, the ones shown before the move are called "previews" (I know, because my wife has screaming shit fits if she doesn't get to see them ever damn time we go to the movies). I have no idea where the "trailer" came from, because I don't ever recall seeing them after a movie. Not that I stick around after the credits, either.
Makes sense tho in a marketing type way, because most people would just get up and leave after the movie while companies have. Better chance of people seeing their adverts before the movie starts
They've been referred to as previews from any and everyone I know as long as I've been alive. They've always been showed before the movie in my 30 years on this earth. I live in WV so maybe it's a regional thing.
This just blew my mind. Never really thought about why they are called movie "trailers". TIL
Illtema ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a masters in film, lots of work experience and didn't know that
C222 ยท 1048 points ยท Posted at 20:38:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related, Wikipedia has a whole list of Retronyms. Words that were only needed after more modern technology came along.
Things like "eyeglasses" after sunglasses became a thing, as opposed to just "glasses". "Mechanical watch" after digital watches were invented and "pocket watches" after wristwatches came along.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 02:25:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really like how nobody said "Standard Definition" before "High Definition" was invented.
Well, technically the term โmechanical watchโ was made necessary by the invention of the quartz movement, not the digital watch. That being said, most if not all digital watches are powered by quartz movements, but not all quartz movements power digital watches.
There are always niche experts reading every thread, it's just a matter of if their topic of choice comes up that they will show themselves.
SplakyD ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:27:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you by any chance a pool shooting country boy from South Alabama who is looking for a man named Jim, the king of 42nd Street who drives a drop top Cadillac?
Closely related / overlapping with that is how changes of standard technology also lead to changes in the modifiers needed to talk about them.
No one says "color TV" anymore. You needed it at some point because there were regular TVs and the special color TVs. Now black and white TVs are the weird ones and we'd specifie that.
We still need a good term for mobile phones that are not smartphones. "Feature phone" isn't going to catch on, "dumb phone" feels unkind, and "flip phone" works, but only for ones that fold.
E-J-E ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:07:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who says eyeglasses though? It's glasses or sunglasses.
david0mp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When talking about glasses and sunglasses I tend to call glasses "clear glasses." Which, entertainingly, doesn't exactly make sense since my "clear" glasses are Transitions.
It was just "Star Wars" in the original 1977 theatrical release. In 1981 it was changed to Episode IV A New Hope
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hopeย (1977)
When first released in 1977, this movie was simply titled "Star Wars," as it was intended to be a stand-alone film. The sequels were not considered until after it became wildly successful. The name of this movie was changed to "Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope" in 1981 to fit in better with the names of the other films. The later print was the first one to be released on mass market video (an earlier Betamax release did not have the subtitle), and all video, laserdisc or DVD releases have featured the subtitles. The theatrical cut DVDs, released in September 2006, were the first time that the original opening crawl, without subtitle, had been released on home video. The reason George Lucas created the title card "Episode IV" in the first film was as a homage to 1940's Saturday afternoon "cliffhanger" serials, like the Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon. He also used the "text crawl" the same way each of those series opened up new chapters. He did not, at the time, have Episodes I, II, and III already planned. In fact, at one point, 20th Century Fox wanted the "Episode IV" title removed so as not to confuse moviegoers. There are some prints of the film that do not have that title card.
The 1980 sequel, Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back, featured the episode number and subtitle in the opening crawl. When the original film was re-released on April 10, 1981, Episode IV: A New Hope was added above the original opening crawl.
Think that's a regional thing; I've never heard anyone say "Zippo" unless it was an actual Zippo. Mostly because Zippos are way better than the shitty 7-11 lighters you can get for 99 cents, so the distinction ennobles the higher quality product.
Yeah quite possibly a regional thing. Everyone I know calls all metal lighters with a hinged lid a Zippo. And saying "lighter" implies a disposable lighter.
Definitely regional, where I am everyone knows that only zippos are zippos, disposable lighters are either bics or crack lighters/shit lighters, and often people refer to any lighter as a bic, as long as its not a zippo
Or just the term "filming" in general. Also, "taping" something (this is used less frequently now but it was alive and well even 10 years ago).
EDIT: When I think of the word "filming" I think of recording video on a camera. When I think of the word "taping" I think of recording from the TV on a VCR or DVR.
And I agree that "videoing" is not a good substitute for either.
I'm almost positive there is or something similar, perhaps a video with stick dudes, that talks about this. I remember seeing it posted on reddit. Someone must know it. I distinctly remember visuals of a stick dude in a van loaded up with data storage devices and logistics being calculated and compared to tranfering data by wire.
Depends if you measure latency just by measuring the time to start receiving data or time to fully receive all of the data. Computer can't do shit with the first bit of a petabyte of data after all.
Wow, I never realized that, but I was just googling and you're right. Nowadays wagons are mostly German - and another fun fact, apparently wagon owners are really high value customers to the manufacturers.
Also the Volvo V90 looks pretty awesome. When I'm done driving this Outback into the ground, I want a Volvo wagon.
zapman17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:24:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sneakernet is still the most efficient way to move large amounts of data. OVernighting a high capacity LTO gets you up close to a terabyte of bandwidth.
gnarlin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You joke, but in some instances this is the best option. For instance I once had a project where I needed to get a large amount of data from a telescope in Chile to the US. I was told the fastest way would be to fly there with a couple hard drives and get it myself.
This is actually something Amazon does. If you have a huge amount of data you need to backup to their cloud services but donโt have the upload bandwidth, they will mail you a big fancy drive you can copy stuff on to and then you mail it back and they upload it from within the data center. Relatively affordable if you have thousands of terabytes of data!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Image a fully loaded freight train of those!
calvarez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would make RFC1149 actually viable!
Cruxion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And on average it would be faster than your average rural ISP. Ping would be pretty bad though.
Thank you for pointing that out. Might still be impressive but having a terabyte on something less than 2 inches long would be way cooler, especially compared to the 50 or so inches that it would be in reality.
Can confirm this. I work in broadcast media, until recently (and probably still currently in many businesses) magnetic tape like HDCAM was still the biggest delivery mechanism.
We did a lot of digitizing of tape media into file based storage. Ironically anything that wasn't scheduled for play in the next few days was archived onto LTO. Used to hate it when corporate would refer to us "tape free". From tape, to file, back to tape.
teefour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any idea what the read write speed is on that? The article doesn't say.
Depends on what you're reading and writing. If you're reading sequential data it should be pretty fast. At least as fast as a decent hard drive I'd imagine. If you're trying to random access the tape though, the seek times will be extremely slow due to the fact the tape has to wind to where the data is. This is probably why tape drives are mainly used for archiving.
Can confirm, I do all the tape backups for my company.
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nzjeux ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah was bit of a surprise when i got into IT finding that out. Also was told it's a fucking nightmare trying to recover from them as well. Told someone who needed something from backups that it was too old and i had to get the tape, they thought i meant it like this thread is about. Took ten min to explain that no we do still use tapes
Jesus, Doom wouldn't even fill a tape. You could get Doom, GTA5, Fallout 3, New Vegas and 4, Oblivion, Skyrim, Crysis 1, 2 and 3, and Final Fantasy 15 (full 4K graphics and everything) and still have room on that tape. All those games likely wouldn't even fill a cassette that most full-length movies did in the 80s and 90s.
Can confirm. I work at a production company and all of our "archived" footage goes on LTO tapes. And up until a few months ago we were shipping final masters of TV shows to some networks on HDCAM-SR tapes!
I worked for a transit agency that still used an HP3000 Mainframe computer for a few functions up until a couple of years ago. The problem was that the cost of the new digital and windows based software needed to schedule and track the buses was too expensive for them to afford in the late 2000s economic downturn, so they had to rely on the old software and mainframe for much longer than planned.
And with physical camera film the resolution is astronomically high compared to its digital counterpart. A little 1 by 1.5 inch square can have 2k or higher resolution in it depending on how crisp the focus was.
j1375625 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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scapler ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:22:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's not nearly the only one left. Yes digital is the majority of films nowadays. That said, three of the Best Picture nominees last year were shot on film. At least four of the top 15 grossing films this year were shot on film, including Wonder Woman, Dunkirk, and Baby Driver. The new Star Wars films are shot on film. Shooting on film is rarer than it used to be, and the majority is digital, but it's still very mainstream.
As an exhibition format film was never good. Prints aren't pin registered so we lose a lot of sharpness. Digital projection is significantly sharper and clearer.
As a capture format it comes down to preference. A lot of films are still shot on film. Some tv as well. The Walking Dead comes to mind. One doesn't really "look" better. Video is easier to use.
ccdfa ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:28:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right that the versions we generally see are digital copies but you're wrong about Tarantino being one of the last directors to shoot in film. Christopher Nolan, Wes Anderson, Edgar Wright, Stephen Spielberg, and many more directors all shoot on film
Heโs certainly not the only one left. While itโs currently the norm to shoot digitally for sake of ease and expense, most of todayโs iconic filmmakers still alternate between film and digital where needed, either for aesthetic or budgetary reasons. Also, a good number of theaters still utilize 35mm and 70mm projectors for films. I watched an original 35mm print of The Thing just two weeks ago. While digital may be the norm, film is hardly dead, thanks to the passion of many filmmakers and theater owners.
Dude analog film is still heavily in use. Cinephiles can spot the difference between 16mm and 2K digital intermediate. Both film and digital and their own pros/cons.
I'm kind of surprised that the die-hard film-using directors (Nolan, Tarantino, etc) don't refer to other movies as "videos" rather than "films". I mean that would be the technically correct term, and it has a nice snobby "holier-than-thou" ring to it...
Well, I think "video" tends to be used for shorter things-- your typical 5-10 minute YouTube type thing, so they probably want to distinguish themselves from that.
You might think that now because of YouTube and the like, but "Now on Video" used to be a common phrase for advertising movies that were available on VHS tapes. And DVDs and Bluray are considered "digital video" formats as well.
I'm not sure what you mean, video just means electronically-produced moving images as opposed to chemical/mechanical technologies like film. Anything from analog TV to Netflix to computer graphics, including both digital cinema cameras and digital cinema projectors.
Yeah, but if somebody tells me that they saw this cool video online, I'm going to generally assume some short-form content on YouTube rather than an episode of Black Mirror.
I guess I see what you mean, but I do tend to watch a lot of really long YouTube videos so in my mind there is no assumption that a "video" would be any shorter than a movie or TV show.
I was going to say something about already having "cut and paste" in the context of computers, but instead now I'm just realizing how odd it is that "paste" is used in that context as well..
You still hear tape in the context of recording TV shows, especially late night shows. They'll mention when talking about current events, like "we tape at 5 o'clock, so by the time this airs, [event] will have already happened..."
the_eric ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:38:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather hear someone say "filming" instead of "videoing"
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:41:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We Germans still sometimes use to say "auf Zelluloid bannen" (to capture on celluloid), although celluloid hasn't been used for decades...
brad-n ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than "videoing".
RedofPaw ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:10:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We use 'record' now, but this is also from the time when audio was captured to magnetic 'cord'. The process would require the cord be split in two and the 're-corded' while ran through the magnetizer. Although none of that is actually true and it's fun to make things up that sound vaguely like they make sense.
steve_of ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Record is the corrct term. It is media independent. You can even use pen and paper to make a record.
gsfgf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa. Record (the noun) and record (the verb) are not only derived from the same thing, they're literally the same word. I probably should have noticed that at some point in my life before now.
RedofPaw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:00:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed, before the automated devices that would record magnetized cord via a motor, poor people who could not afford a hand cranked recording spinner would use a pen inserted into the spindle and manually turned.
Actually a whole lot of directors still shoot on film. 35mm is still a mainstay recently used in films like Baby Driver. All the Harry Potter movies were filmed on 35mm. The Hateful Eight was a special treat since it used 65mm and thats pretty rare these days. 8mm is making a return with the Kodak Super 8. There is something wonderful about film that has still yet to be repeated by digital cameras. That isnt to take away from those though (Thor Ragnarok was shot in 6.5k and mastered at 2k. Mad Max Furry Road at 2.8k)
No vinyl records are named for the act of recording something.
crimeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of media uses film still. Certainly not anything like the MAJORITY but very much in use. I own and use 3 film cameras, including a view camera (old timey style with accordion body, was manufactured new and on Amazon 2014 or so)
"Recording" is pretty common language on set nowadays.
CWess14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording is also an archaic term for this
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's weird when I hear or read that someone has 'filmed' something on their cell phone. Or they will say they are 'taping' something or someone.
Bane2571 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Recording" is probably the word you need - as in making a record of, not making a vinyl record of.
I work at a television network and when we cut a short video or trailer for a show we often call it a "tape" or even a "reel" even though none of the content has been on either of those formats for more than a decade, and many of us weren't even working in the industry when they were in use.
How about recording? Recording is nice and neutral. You could record something on paper, picture, or video. So it leaves room for any future ways of recording. Plus, its already in use, so it won't take too much getting used to
People definitely still use the term "on tape" to mean "having been recorded." E.g., "They got the Senator on tape admitting to inappropriate behavior with a staffer." or "The mugger was caught on tape fleeing the scene." Even though in neither of those examples was actual tape likely used.
EricT59 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since you are writing digital data to media Poking cause that puts a value into a memory address in BASIC, or writing but that is confusing because the script is also written, or the old stand by shooting
max420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording would be a good substitute. Or Capturing, cause recording kind of harkens back to vinyl records of yore.
Movies are still recorded on film. They are higher resolution than your 4K television, which is why you can get HD re-releases of old shows and you see how shitty some of the sets look.
I asked my kid brother (there's over a decade between the two of us) to tape a show for me and he looked at me like I was nuts. I guess "record" is the more popular jargon? Shit, I'm not even that old!
*edit: I a word
Some movies still use film, but digital cinema cameras have advanced to the point that out resolve most physical film formats and have better dynamic range. They also allow for more creative color grading and obviously CGI and other digital effects.
Personally I still find the visual artifacts of film and the soft colors appealing, but I think both mediums have their merits.
I work in TV production, and we still refer to the process of capturing a live performance as 'taping' it. Another common phrase is 'live to tape', meaning a show that is treated as though it is a live broadcast, even though it's being recorded to be aired later. Everything, of course, is on hard disks/SSD's now, but it seems like it will always be 'tape'.
In the video field we use shooting. Iโm out on a shoot. Iโm shooting this video today.
Aldrea01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording, dude... that's the word that still accurately describes it now. Haha, had a brain fart the other day and heard myself say "film it" when I couldn't find a better word fast enough. It's weird how old and out of place the word felt.
I never thought of that before. "I have like 200 ft of footage of this forest" or something. Everything is digital but I don't really know another term to use. I guess now we say how many hours of footage which actually makes no sense. My mind is pretty blown right now.
chiagod ยท 1419 points ยท Posted at 20:12:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something else to blow your mind. Movies (old reel type) are about a mile long for each hour of movie.
[deleted] ยท 342 points ยท Posted at 20:25:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was having a good day, you know... but now you reminded me of that movie again.... and 2049 is not in cinema anymore so I have to wait for the Blu Ray. I hate you, my feels deserved better.
Haha, I saw it 4 times when it was at my local cinema. Im just waiting for the Blu Ray to watch it frame by frame looking for details and all that stuff.
Since this is required of me, let me just say theatrical cut forever.
I will concede a lot about the Final Cut is better. Hell I can even live with the unicorn dream. What I cannot live with is that that dream was plopped down to replace one of the most mood-setting scenes of the film, when Deckard is alone with his whiskey looking at old photos and the love theme is played. They just wiped that musical cue for a hollow sounding piece played over recycled unicorn footage from Legend.
Also I like the voiceover. The terms 'cityspeak' and 'skin job' are both glossed, as well as the fact that Deckard is divorced, that he regrets 'shooting an unarmed woman in the back' (Zhora) and that Rachael has no set lifespan.
I kinda see it like the Donnie Darko problem since I never gave the theatrical release a real shot (just saw it on TV and didn't like it). With DD though it's backwards; I consider the Director's cut eventually required viewing for fans since it actually explains some things for sure, but the theatrical is better as a sealed package IMHO before and after ambiguity (e.g. wtf ax and why people are crying at the end).
I never felt as if Donnie Darko was a big mystery, or at least the mysterious parts I felt were there I was fine with. The biggest sin of the director's cut of that film is deleting the excellent use of Killing Time by Echo & the Bunnymen as the musical cue in that early bike moment where he bicycles home with, inexplicably, Never Tear us Apart by INXS. Seriously, fuck that choice.
I have both, I like the Final Cut because of the ending and the Theatrcal because of the narration (all of it but the ending scenes, those ruined it for me).
It's like Star Wars/A New Hope, I love the change of having Han run into a hangar full of stormtroopers but hate the CGI aliens.
The ending scenes ruined it? I love the ending scenes. Notably those were footage borrowed from Stanley Kubrick (unused) that he had had filmed for the opening of the film The Shining.
Right, I get that. I never thought his narration was soulless, as you put it. To me it was just the genre film noir detective voiceover.
I've got no issue with anyone who didn't care for it. Sometimes I don't mind a happy ending. After the bleak city rainscape of the entire film that break through the clouds into sunlight and green was just what I needed. Of course I've now seen the sequel (twice) and there's that, but I was/am responding more to the individual narratives of the film(s) than the specifics of the wider story arc.
My wife was raised with Vangelis as bed song, that coupled with the movie's rhythm makes a full watching impossible as a couple...
eksorXx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:44:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was kind of fucking hoping it was a video of a VHS tape blowing in the damn wind. but it's not, it's a GREAT scene and I can't even be mad so fuck it.
scordax ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:35:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I didn't say he said it was the same. I was simply pointing out that that specific detail of those two things were dissimilar, and then I outlined how different those two things were.
I feel like we could do this all day, but I don't know why we would, or why I got this comment to begin with.
edit - Lol, dude downvoted me immediately. Why are some people so weird?
edit - Lol, dude downvoted me immediately. Why are some people so weird?
No I didn't, I didn't even see your comment until just now.
Anyway, it was at least obvious to me that a traditional movie film and VHS tape were not the same, so you pointing out that theyre not exactly the same seems a little redundant unless you're catering to a slower crowd :P
Old audio casette tape. Break in half, tie one end to the bus seat, let the rest stream out the window. Watch all the cars go past with it tangled up in their antennas. Fun times on school trips.
That was my job when I worked at the local Regal theater. Though now that everything is going digital, the movies ship on single HDDs in big shockproof cases.
You can get all kinds of industry reports; I know physical prints have been severely declining but they're still being produced at some reasonable numbers. Companies like Deluxe now just handle a lot of physical printing: posters, popup displays for films, etc.
Now people just have insane anxiety about the decryption keys unlocking at the right time to play the DCPs.
I remember having to deal with the encryption keys... fun times.
I'm sure reels are still printed. Good digital projectors are expensive, so it's not always cost effective to upgrade especially for smaller theaters. Our first one was paid for by Disney and they basically owned us as far as that projector went (what trailers, number of showings, that kind of thing) for a long time.
Ahh, the memories. I never got the chance to be a projectionist as I started at our local theatre only 5 months prior to converting to all digital, but it was incredibly awesome to see how it all worked.
70mm film or 120 film has 12 shots per roll. Every roll is about the length of a second of footage. 120 film is generally shot as 6cmx6cm. When used for cinema though I think it's shot at less than half that.
Film is generally shot at 24fps, 35mm is shot at half-frame so that should make about 2 seconds for a roll of 24. There are a whole bunch of different ways of shooting it though, same goes for 70mm.
Still photography uses more film area than motion photography.
One physical format of film can have multiple aspect ratios. For instance, 120 stills can be shot at 6x4.5 6x6 6x7 6x9 6x12 etc. Motion picture shoots at a different aspect ratio.
When rolling through a movie camera it shoots 24 fps or whatever the dp chooses. Film has no set FPS it's just a medium in which to capture frames. 60 fps film is the same film as 12 fps film.
70mm film stock which is used in motion picture that comes in 100 or 400 foot rolls. It's sold for still shots in 2 1/2 foot lengths. These 2.5 (really 2.3) foot lengths (72mm long) rolls of film generally give 12 shots of 6x6 still images.
A motion picture will use 2.3 feet up in about a second at 24fps. Much faster if its going at 60fps.
Movies are broken up into about 20 minute reels. There's generally 5 or 6 reels in a movie. Source - I work on movies and tv shows
chiagod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
However most theaters I knew combined them into one giant reel on system that had 3 platters. 2 play from platters and a "rewind" platter.
alpain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never thought about how long the video ones were...
I randomly still copy data from old reel to reels to HDD. They are called by type usually, 9track 7track 24track than by length usually like 1800 feet 2400 feet etc
That actually seems really short when you think about how long it takes to walk a mile and how many scenes are in a film, how many frames it takes to fill a scene. I could walk a 2 hour movie in about 20 minutes?
kapu_koa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, i remember moving Mullholland Drive i think it was from one theater to another and dropping it on the state'salong the way. A mile seems like a low estimate.
Ok i just ran some quick numbers and this doesn't make sense.
Ok there are 7200 seconds in a standard 2 hour movie. At 35mm per frame, roughly 32 frames per second that gives a length of 4.6 miles. So 1 hour of film would be well over 2 miles. Even reducing the frames to 20 per second still gets you a mile and a half.
chiagod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should help. In short, 35mm is the full width (picture portion of the film and the side parts that have the holes). 3/4" (number I used) is approximately distance from the top of one frame to the next frame.
The aperture height on the projector is 0.7", adding the distance between frames makes it about 0.75"
Something to blow YOUR mind: On the space shuttle, even with a 99.9% component success rate, that STILL left hundreds of part that could of failed !! WOW
The term I hear is selfies... as much as I hate that word. It is now being used to reference the actual word "picture" or "pics."
Had a nice lengthy argument about this on discord about what a selfie is compared to what pictures are. Apparently, I'm wrong. /s
When I was a kid I thought footage in that context was a different word and was spelled photage. As in photo. Film was still common back then but I didn't understand the origin of the term.
I guess the alternative is to just call it video recording at this point. Like "I have 2 hours of recording of the forest."
Snej15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Measuring footage in hours makes perfect sense: there is an accepted playback speed. If the speed of playback was entirely arbitrary (i.e. not playing at a speed equivalent to real-time), then sure, measuring footage in hours doesn't make sense.
Right? Like โrecorded mediaโ doesnโt quite roll off the tongue the same way and is too broad to begin with, not sure what else to call it though.
In the silent era, films were measured in feet and reels because there was no standard projection speed at the time and theaters could (and did) speed up some films to get another showing in. The studios recommended against it but couldn't control it until sound came in.
Measuring footage in hours is about on par with measuring the length of a road trip in hours, which people do all the time... makes sense when there is a relative correlation between linear measurement and time
When David Attenborough was in the jungle being gradually adopted by gorillas, they had to be super selective about what they filmed, because they only had so many feet of film with them
It makes more sense in that typical home/amateur film formats came in 50foot spools, but the recorded footage could be made with different number of frames/second. Professional film was usually 24 frames, but home film could be as low as 13 frames, or even lower. Some cameras could also take single frames, good for both still photography, or freeze-frame animation.
50foot is often the max length a home processing drum for 8mm/super8/16mm film is capable of handling.
And some super8 used 16mm film, and you had to split it down the middle after processing.
(You filmed the first 50' of film, took the spools out and flipped them over, then recorded another 50'. If the camera used simple spools, not a cassette, you needed to do the operation in darkness. )
I just got hold of such a camera, B/W film and a processing tank, and will try shooting some footage, just as soon as I learn to feed the film correctly into the tank spool. fiddly...
I was just talking to someone about this the other day. Film stock was priced "per foot". (Well, per roll, but with a known number of feet per roll.)
Edit: And one obvious reason is that while 24 frames per second is the mainstream cinema standard, the length of film required for a given period of time would depend on the frame rate you ran the camera at. Hell, going way back to the early days of film, the cameras were cranked by hand.
And even now in the digital world, 1 hour of video could take less than 100MB or could take 10s of GB, depending on the resolution and encoding. While marketers will often try to express digital storage in terms of how many "hours of video" or "libraries of congress", the actual number of bytes (or mega, giga, tera, peta) conveys the most useful information to an informed consumer.
400 feet of 16mm at 24fps gets you around 12 minutes of screen time. The raw footage is $200, and processing will run you that much or more. So around $500 for 12 minutes of raw video, and even if you're a really efficient shooter you're talking at least 4-to-1 ratio of raw to edited material. So film stock alone will cost a thousand bucks per six minutes of final film. (And this is just for 16mm, used by super low-budget films, film students, etc., rather than more expensive 35mm, like the pros use)
It is still extremely common for people in the industry to refer to a digital video file as "footage". OP's observation is not only that the term refers to length of film, but also that it is incorrectly used to refer to shot video files in modern digital workflows.
I remember back in middle school trying to argue that it was pronounced "photage", because obviously it came from photography. Doesn't sound so stupid anymore, does it?
the film industry has tons of these. "Rolling" is still used but no longer applies, as digital cameras don't have film to roll. Hell, even saying that you're "filming" something is inaccurate - you're really recording something digitally.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:16:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ccdfa ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:41:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right but they're referring to the word "footage" which is used primarily on television, usually news stations. "Let's take a look at some footage of the car accident". While movie directors still use film, you wouldn't call a movie "footage". News stations, or anything that could be live on TV is shot digitally, but still referred to as "footage".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still valid, because "filming" is generally used to describe any sort of video recording, and "footage" is used to refer to both digital and analogue media.
mjxii ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Maria Christ! I've always thought this was something about photo. Like photoage or something that became footage. Lordy what an awakening. Or, I mean, maybe overreacting here. I was just surprised. Didn't know. TIL. Coo!. Thanks!
So what the hell do we use? I do videos occasionally, and it kills me to say "I need some more footage of ..." I can use "shot" because that's what I used for still images. It kills me.
TobyCrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In animation your quotas used to be measured in "feet", referencing the length of the physical film. 1 foot=16 frames of animation (played at 24 fps of course). This term is starting to die and most people just use seconds/minutes when talking about how long an animated scene is, but I've had a few old instructors who still hand out assignments this way.
"Going the whole 9 yards" is a reference to the P-52 fighter planes from World War II, whose machine gun belts were 27 feet or 9 yards long for a combat load, to use the phrase means "totally spent" or "gone the distance".
Tiz68 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jareth86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joke's on you! My high-school filming course still trains kids to edit and record on physical film in 2017! The programming course is also in computer basic.
As a videographer...... damn you just blew my mind.
KVirello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
jstead3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about footy for the boys?? Skiers??
xsladex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While not as common as it once was some pretty big companies still use tape for data back up. LTO tape can hold upwards of 10 TB of data making it easy to store and safeguard information. SSD's and HDD aren't as reliable yet
Arvidex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that it came from photons and light
anrii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clip. I was told it came from literal pieces of film that were cutโor clippedโinto smaller bits. Some places even use it synonymously with the word โvideo.โ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The movie industry is full of these terms. Like when a sound recordist says โsound speedโ to confirm they are recording - that term comes from when recording was reel to reel and the machine had to get up to speed before you could start. Also, most terms related to editing video, such as types of edits (slip, cut, etc.) are all directly related to editing with film.
643dp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll that beautiful bean footage!"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The entire industry is called "film" still and just about every bit of terminology involved in film and photo is archaic by nature.
Looking at photographs from a shoot is still referred to as "film review" and a portfolio of work in video is still called your "reel."
Krail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a line in Stranger in a Strange Land where someone asks a guy how much video footage he got of their trip to Mars. The guy responds thousands of feet.
My first reaction, I laughed at the idea of taking a film camera to Mars.
magnakai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some films are still shot on film, and itโs still the most reliable moving image archival format.
Or video tape, and its seedy genesis, the sex tape
Jebbeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When filming Eastbound and Down, it was discussed how many feet of film we used since HBO seemingly gave complete freedom to Jodie and Danny. It was still actual film.
empireit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hijacking this for the related โclipsโ. Clips are/were literal clippings or cuttings from the longer footage.
The more you know.
-Geekier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: the rest of the world actually referred to it as โmeterageโ
Just got off a shoot on RED cameras where the DP (age probably mid-50s) asked if card #3 had exposed footage on it. Exposed like it had to go be developed. That โfootageโ had playback on the client monitor at the same time we were capturing it. Just weird how those terms have and will still carry over into the digital age.
flugbone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:17:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It even "film" like "I'm going to make a film". It's mostly digital
And when they came out there were 'long boxes' because the CDs were so small, they could easily be shoplifted so they displayed them in twice as long paper boxes with even more art on them.
I remember walking into stores with a razerblade and taking the cd cases out of them. Ahh, such easy shoplifting back then. Not like torrenting music nowadays.
Or, somewhat rather, the CD and case had to be put into tall boxes because record stores (a place to go and buy records and tapes), couldn't foot the bill to suddenly change their display cases to benefit the displaying of CDs. CD jewel cases would just be hidden behind the slats, if it weren't for those slipcases.
Wow, I didnโt realize it was because of shelving and totally makes sense. Those were the chains.
Versus at my independent stores, they had the cover art in vinyl sleeves that youโd search and if you wanted it, then theyโd bring the cd and cd case and take the cover out. That was the original frustration free packaging!
iRub2Out ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Music nowadays (torrents) are easy, very easy. The trick is not getting caught, that's where a VPN comes in (a paid one), get that VPN and grow that collection, son!
If you need help with any part of this PM me, I'd be happy to help.
Not that I know anything about torrents (what's that?) or VPNs (STD?) - I'm borderline retarded (but seriously)
ladylei ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean use my coaster to kill a spider. But my drink is on it. I will just have to use my junk mail to start a fire and burn down my house. Then no more spiders or Korn CDs.
Humans have the "Builder" passive. This means we can max out any of our other stats besides HP. Need to move faster? Get a car. Need higher Power? Get a weapon. Need higher defense? Wear some armor. That's why Humans are OP. They are hard carries. Not even fun tbh.
Humans with nearly max level crafting can build massive vehicles that no other class can damage. They named them after the class Rhinos and Hippos fall under: Tanks.
Depends; human agility and strength are both pretty respectable, but the tool-use skill lets them boost their strength to levels that are vastly beyond any other build. Agility is also pretty variable; high-agility humans are extremely agile, but such builds tend to be limited in other ways.
What if spiders had computers and their own internet? Imagine all the millions of spiders around the world using their eight legs to type at far greater speeds than any mortal man could. What would they call this world wide web?
I was with you about not killing spiders but humans are absolutely special, come back to me when you can present any other creature in our known existence than can coherently argue otherwise.
I'm totally against animal cruelty but I am a human supremacist.
Does having an ability that no one else has make you special if everyone has their own ability?
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:19:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Spiders are special because they can build their own home from organic materials that they produce with their own body.
Humans are special because they can reason and conceptualize abstract ideas. And we have like a dozen different ways of communicating those abstracts to others.
Alrik ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:57:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spiders are special because they can build their own home from organic materials that they produce with their own body
zzwugz ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:19:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. All life is equal. Kill that spider, but put its body to good use. Feed another, stronger pet spider to contribute the food chain. Or mulch to feed plants
Of course we are better than other animals. The fact that there is no other animal that can advocate for itself and debate me on the subject proves that point.
No it doesn't. It is a great e and of how amazing human intelligence is, but it, in literally no way, makes us better than other animals.
Not that it would matter, but you can't even claim to have helped in getting humans to this point. You're not better because you happened to be born. That's grossly egotistical.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am. I'm stronger faster bigger smarter tougher braver kinder better.
But you've abused the english language to make it sound like you're talking about moral high ground. In which case, we're exactly equal in terms of intentions, her actions being a result of her instincts and mine a result of my upbringing. And in terms of actions, it's impossible to know if the spider ate the butterfly that was going to make a tornado in china, just as I can't know if I said something that changed the next Lincoln's or Hitler's views and saved or doomed the world.
Saltpunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so if you don't pick the human because that would make them special, why do you pick the chimpanzee? Are you saying chimpanzees are more special than humans?? That's fucking gross, or so I've heard!
They do actually come from the same thing. Cob came from the word coppe, meaning head. Spiders were called "Atorcoppe" meaning "poison heads" eventually shortened to just cob. Corncob meant head of corn, since it's at the top of the corn.
To clarify for Americans, "corn" in this context - the etymology of "corn cob" - doesn't mean ๐ฝ (aka maize or Zea mays) . "Corn" is used in a more archaic way:
The mainย cerealย plant grown for its grain in a given region, such asย oatsย in parts of Scotland and Ireland, andย wheatย orย barleyย in England and Wales.
All of those crops (wheat, oats, barley, rye, sorghum, etc... basically everything but maize) have seed heads, meaning a seed bearing structure at the top of the plant shoot/stem/stalk ๐พ. That's why it's called the "head" and where "cob" comes from. Maize, however is super weird and the seed is not in a structure at the top of the stalk, it's about halfway up the stalk. The tassel at the top is just what sheds pollen (no seeds). So guess what maize "heads" are conventionally called? Ears. You harvest ears of corn. And because this isn't confusing enough, sometimes you'll hear folks talk about "ears of barley" and such. They mean barley head. It's used interchangeably now.
And thus... Although "corncob" used to mean a seed head at the top of a cereal crop, it now just means the thing maize seeds are attached to (which isn't even at the top at all) and doesn't have anything to do with other cereal crops anymore. It really doesn't make any damn sense.
TL;DR Giving plants animal part names to explain what they are... maybe not the best strategy.
in Norwegian spiders are called Edderkopp. I find that the older the word is on English the closer it is to Norwegian, and old Scots is at times nearly the same language.
Klarok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:30 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
brownhues ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 01:26:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewers head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenevs Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. ๐
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid ๐
frotc914 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:32:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the Rick and Morty copypasta. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of the 18th century english literature most of the subtlties will go over a typical readers head. There's also the paragraphs nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into its syntax - its own philosophy draws heavily from the works of Shakespeare, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of its jokes, to realise that It's not just funny- it says something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike the Rick & Morty copypasta truly ARE idiots - of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the paragraphs initial existential phrase "To be fair..." which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenevs Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as /u/Niekisch's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. ๐
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty copypasta tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid ๐
safec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What
sovamind ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:17:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likely that the cob of an ear of corn comes from the corn thread being similar to a spider's silk. I believe some people even call the corn threads silk today.
In point of fact, it was a joke playing off the oft-posted notion that this is an urban legend, relying largely on the absurdity of the mental image of swallowing cobs of corn in your sleep unbeknownst to you.
Corn is an old English term for any large grain of something. Hence corning beef. The large grains of salt were corns. So really its grans on a spider.
Well daddy longlegs look like little copper buttons (particularly the ones on police uniforms) so people used to refer to them a coppers or cops. Cobwebs is the natrual progression of copwebs.
Tomnoddy - someone that is slow, an idiot. I had to look it up, too. Iโd read the books a few decades ago and had no idea either, but since the LotR movies came out thereโs no shortage of information about Tolkienโs works online. Basically heโs calling the spiders slow and stupid to goad them into acting without thinking.
Interesting, though I would only use the word cobweb for an old, dusty abandoned spiderweb. And spiderweb for an active web with a spider in it. So there is kind of a distinction
Wait I though cobwebs were just accumulated dust and debris whereas spider webs were the actual creature creation
Kirbychu ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 20:31:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dust generally doesn't accumulate in perfect strands and webs, it has to build up on top of something. "Cobwebs" are almost always an abandoned spider web that has started to collect dust, making it look different.
While this is correct, in modern usage don't both words now have different meanings? Even if people don't realize "cobwebs" start as spiderwebs, they are still referring to an abandon dusty web.
I don't know, I've never thought of these words as different concepts. I've always felt they meant the same thing. Also I have heard many people use "cobweb" in clear reference to a newly made not dusty spider web
Not really though? Charotte in Charotte's Web for sure refers to her webs as cobwebs... does it seem more natural to refer to disused wens as cobwebs... yeah... but definitely see them used interchangeably.
I don't feel like that means much. Just because it's from the 1950s doesn't mean it is invalid. Has language really changed so much since the 50s that you can use that you would call it too dates to consider?
For what it is worth, if you Google "cobweb vs spider web" the first results say they can be used interchangeably, so you've got an old source of it and a current source. Seems fair to say they're interchangeable
Theyโre just not man. Maybe in the 50s. But not now. And yes language has changed a lot since 1952. Average conversation is decently different. In most peopleโs opinion, a cobweb is an old dusty unused spiderweb, and spiderweb is a current and in use one. Itโs just the way it is. You can use them interchangeably, but it wonโt sound right to people who are familiar with modern vernacular and colloquialism.
Woah, that's literally what happened. The earth is made from dust from an exploding star. If you leave enough dust around for long enough, it turns into animals and society and starts calculating things about itself.
Dust is far too dry to evolve life. If anything, you need an aqueous solution for molecules to freely react in. Which is why all cells to this day are wet on the inside.
I have always been terrified of spiders. So my parents would try to convince me that it wasn't a spider web in my room, but a cobweb, which was an abandoned spider web.
MFCH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought cobwebs were abandoned spiderwebs that accumulated dust and debris.
Just because one word is an archaic word doesn't mean there aren't other archaic words with the same meaning. Atorcoppe developed into coppe which developed into cob.
Word Origin and History for cobweb
n.
early 14c., coppewebbe ; the first element is Old English -coppe, in atorcoppe "spider," literally "poison-head" (see attercop ). Spelling with -b- is from 16c., perhaps from cob. Cob as a stand-alone for "a spider" was an old word nearly dead even in dialects when J.R.R. Tolkien used it in "The Hobbit" (1937).
I know, but I was just replying to the guys statement about whether the two were the same, which they arenโt. I didnโt mention anything about modern or old English.
It's still (sort of) used in some places in the North of the UK. Although they say attercop, which comes from the Old English atorcoppe, meaning venom head.
i3aby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told that a cobweb was made of dust and other gunk - not the same as a spiderweb, despite people often using them interchangeably. I never fact checked it, though. I think I was like 10.
It comes from Old English "ฤtorcoppe" (literally poison-head), which meant spider. It's descended from the same Germanic root as the Danish word, but the English does not come from Danish -- it's a native English word.
Yollom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always said spider web for current webs, and cobweb for webs that have been collecting dust and clearly aren't in use, I want if It's like that because, old term, old web?
I always told myself that spiderwebs were made by spiders and cobwebs were just magically made by dust... but now I know and all basements are now FUCKING terrifying.
sqgl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well back in the day then, did they distinguish between used and abandoned webs?
Honestly, and I'm probably way wrong, but I always thought there was a difference between a cobweb and a spider web. I thought a cobweb was a long abandoned spiders web, no longer is a spider using it and it's probably covered in dust etc. A spiders web was one that a spider was still using to catch prey, sleep, or whatever they do. Is that not the case?
For some reason "cobwebs" in my house were referred to webs that were old and abandoned by the spider, and "spider webs" were always newer and usually accompanied by a fucking spider. I honestly thought that there may have been a difference until now, but nope. Lol
I have a fun nautical one I learned from my uncle when I was young.
"Son of a gun" is actually quite a horrible thing to call a person. Back when ships usually didn't allow women to join (for various reasons), the highlight of docking was allowing prostitutes on board.
And, you know, when a man and a woman have enough time together, children are born and presented to the ship.
In the log it would go. If the man would (ha) man up and claim it as their own, the log would read something like "daughter of Samuel was born" or "son of Johnathan was born ."
If none of the men claimed the child, the ledger would read, "son of a gun was born."
tl;dr: Calling someone "a son of a gun" is like calling them "an unwanted son of a prostitute."
jrhooo ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:56:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alternative, there's the etymology, that "gun" was an informal reference to a sailor or soldier themself.
A "legitimate" child would obviously have his father's name. Thus, "son of a gun" = the unclaimed kid of some random visiting G.I., a bastard.
As far as I know, this was a reference to how the gun rooms (not sure of the proper term, but the areas where the main cannon armament sat) were used for conjugal visits. I would imagine this to be because there's not much going on there when the ship is in port, other than maybe routine maintenance, but this is just conjecture.
Ton of people use "ouvrir la lumiรจre" and "fermer la lumiรจre", which is easy to confirm by googling the two. It's stigmatized, but it's not rare. It's probably more common in certain regions.
Nothing is wrong with it, some people just use "allumer" and "รฉteindre". Stigma in language doesn't come from any objective deficiency. It's just people speaking one variety complaining about people speaking another, or grumps complaining about new usage.
Iโll tell you thatโs very rare. Source: iโm french. Never heard it. And iโve lived in many corners of the country. Maybe old people in the north?
The language thing is why the term shut off the light is common in some places. Everyone in my area says shut off the light instead of turn off the light, even though most people only speak English.
Int the south I hear cut on and cut off used mostly for things that have an auto cut off and auto restart. Like an air compressor, fills up, cuts off, air gets to the low point, compressor cuts on.
This is the only sensible way I've heard it but you'll occasionally come across someone that uses it for everything...
Same in Greek. I went to school with a lot of Greek kids and they would always say (in English) open/ close the lights or open/ close the TV. In Greek, they use the same word.
My kids say "click the lights" and my littlest says "turn up" and "turn down" the windows. But she thinks of the window as the open space so it gets even more tricky...
Eats_Ass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad tried this out when my brother and I were little. Unfortunately for him, my brother was a smart ass and I looked up to him. We'd extend our fingers to the lights and be like "Now what?".
I live in an old house that still has some of the original light switches, which turn to go on or off, probably because people back then were used to the turning on and off from gas lights.
Nix-geek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather, who learned English as a second language late in his life and grew up in a very rural, harsh, landscape used to say, 'shut the light.' Not 'shut the light off.' but just shut it.
As in shut the door or shut the window or shut the curtains.
I always liked the visualization of shuting the light.
"Turning" is also used on TV and Film sets to let everyone on set that they are filming and have to be quiet. It refers to how film used to be recorded on a roll of film and would turn while filming.
It's not a sexual allusion. It refers to a type of governor/speed indicator used on old time drive engines (like steam engines). Weighted balls were attached via a hinge mechanism to a rotating shaft that was synced to the engine speed. As the speed of rotation increased, centrifugal (or is it centripetal?) force caused the balls to swing outward. If the machine was in an enclosed structure, the balls would therefore be closer to the walls, hence, balls to the wall means going at the maximum speed/rpm.
TL:DR - "Balls to the wall" has nothing to do with testicles.
zerobeat ยท 836 points ยท Posted at 19:50:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at google ngram viewer, it most likely comes from aircraft throttles. It didn't come into popularity until the 1960s, well after the time of the steam engine. If it did come from the steam locomotive, I would expect it to come into usage much earlier.
mattgrum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:02:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Ballin the jack" is often falsely attributed to the railroad industry, but actually came from a dance in the American southeast around the turn of the century.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:19:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The procedures for having an engine fail in flight on a multi engine aircraft are:
Balls to the wall, identify, verify, feather, raise the dead.
Source: Am pilot.
Edit:
Balls to the wall -> push the mixture, prop, and throttle controls (literally balls on a stick in older twins) forward to the stops (the wall)
Identify: Figure out which engine died. Usually you'll be using an insane amount of rudder with one foot. So the phrase idle foot, idle engine (the foot not straining is the dead side).
Verify: Reduce the throttle on what you expect to be the dead engine. If you're right, no change occurs.
Feather: Do the same thing to the propeller control. It turns the blade edge-on with the wind so the propeller doesn't windmill. This significantly reduces drag because the spinning propeller is absorbing enough energy to turn over the engine and its accessories, which will cause the plane to rotate heavily in that direction (thus the heavy rudder usage).
Raise the dead: bank into the good engine a few degrees to help counteract the rotational impact of the dead engine (banking into the good engine raises the dead engine -> raise the dead, easy to remember).
Yes - some people still call car accelerators "throttles" - but aren't they the opposite?
KJ6BWB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably aircraft. The old centrifugal speed governors generally weren't used inside a closed tube. You want more air so that they don't just swish around some air.
And yet... I'm sure who-ever coined the term and everyone who popularized it knew exactly what the allusion was. They were just happy to have an explanation for why them being so crass was totally fine. :P
Centripetal force is the force holding a mass in a circular trajectory, like a string holding a ball to a tether or gravity holding the moon around Earth.
Centrifugal force is the theoretical opposite: The force pushing the object away, perpendicular to the center. This isn't a real force, as what "pushes" the object "away" away is simple momentum. The object moves parallel to the center, not perpendicular.
There may be an updated definition, but my science professor always hated the term "centrifugal force" for those reasons.
"Centrifugal force" does exist, it just depends on your frame of reference. From the frame of reference of the spinning object, it definitely exists. From a fixed outside reference, it doesn't, so 'objectively' it doesn't.
It sometimes is useful to consider it as real, though, so it doesn't deserve the hate that it gets sometimes
Incredibly surprised to see someone who knows their shit. Centrifugal force only exists if you shift your frame of reference to inside the system, and is a logical pseudo-force rather than an actual force.
Nice!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:59:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you so surprised, anyone who's taken a mechanics course in physics would know this and reddit is full of STEM majors.
Haven't seen a lot of people know that centrifugal force doesn't actually exist, or that it only seems to exist in a different frame of reference for the problem.
Hold on, so if your reference is inside the system, would your centrifugal force be tension/gravity what have you, or would it be a separate force and if so why?
The reference not only has to be inside the system but spinning with the system. Think of it as putting a camera on the center of a merry go round and one off on the side. If you are watching the feed from the camera on the merry go round, and placed a ball on the floor. It would look like the ball is being moved/accelerated away from the center for no apparent reason. The centrifugal force is used to explain the phenomenon of the ball accelerating away from the center.
However if you are watching from outside the merry go round, the ball is simply trying to follow a straight line trajectory so it naturally moves away from the center of the merry go round since it has nothing to stop it. Thus there is no force that is needed to explain its movements.
5redrb ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:42:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, that's one of the most intuitive explanations I've seen.
I got to see a demonstration of this at a science museum when I was a kid. They had a merry go round with benches on the edge and an open center. They split you up into two groups and one stayed outside while the other one played catch on the merry go round. Then you switched places so you could see it from the other perspective.
The tension in the string provides the centripetal force, which does pull the ball inward, but the acceleration it provides is always perpendicular to the current velocity of the ball, so the resultant velocity vector is at an angle (which is why the ball moves in a circle) around the center.
You're right, I just love mechanics and wanted to chime in
If the object was moving in a perfect circle, the velocity vector would be at 90 degrees from the string at all times. If you analyzed it in time steps perhaps you would come to have it be angled but instantaneously it would not be angled at anything but 90 degrees assuming a perfect circle trajectory.
This phrase always confused me. When I heard a guy say โWe need to go balls to the wallโ, I thought โit must be painful squishing your balls up against a wall like that, but good luck, buddy. Dry hump that wall to your heartโs content!โ
etsba78 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It confused me too & makes more sense as a technical description of an engine at work than what was previously in my head.
Some guy facing a wall, earnest look on his face, hips tilted forward, pants down..
Editted - clarity.
Vivalas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy fucks
etsba78 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I don't want to speculate on the frequency of Lady of Fate's sex life I think it reasonable to presume her gender.
:)
TOGSolid ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:07:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ballhead governors are still used on large diesels so the term is still pretty relevant. The fleet I work in has Woodward ballhead governors on most of its engines.
While plausible, I find this much less likely than the jet fighter explanation; it first appears in writing with any frequency in the 1960s when jets were obtaining prominence. If it were related to steam engines, I'd expect to find it used significantly earlier.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:33:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Congrats, you are the first one here to blow my mind.
Jrook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also he's wrong. It's an aviation term
MIKEl281 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:52:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The adage โBalls to the wallโ came from the spitfire attack plane used during World War Two, the throttle head was in the shape of a ball and when the throttle was pushed fully forward the ball head of the throttle would be fully against the wall of the cockpit
GaySwans ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I drive fast my testicles are closer to the walls for the same reason, so it still works.
Fucking the dog, as a term on industrial sites for slacking off, has nothing to do with bestiality either.
Before hydraulics, heavy equipment ran off cables like the ones that still position the boom of a crane (the cable reels of a modern crane are nevertheless run by hydraulic motors).
In the old machines, when you stopped a machine, you had a lever to put a metal piece, called a dog, between the nearest cogs on the cable reel gears.
When you wanted a machine to stop operating and go into safe mode, you told the operator to dog everything. You still tell him that, but now he just shuts off the power takeoff to the hydraulics.
Now the machine is safed out, the dog's rod is inserted, you can go fuck the dog.
Marine engineer here, they call those a mechanical governor in that industry
Joefaux ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Centrifugal is right (or at least right in this context, even though it's really 'normal' force impeded by the rotating hinge mechanism. Just remember fugue is like fleeing or running away, a la fugitive. Centrifuge - away from center)
I never say these two phrases, but I often say "Balls deep" if I am in the middle of something. Most often it happens when I am just finishing prepping for a task at work and the boss pulls me off to do something else. I am pretty sure it is a sexual allusion.
araxhiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that Accept's song title has more sense.... LOL
(No, I haven't read the lyrics of such song, neither I'm a "relatively casual" Accept fan)
When I first heard the song "Good Golly Miss Molly" many years ago, with the lyrics "You sure like to ball," I assumed it was a sexual reference. Uh no - means "party" - as in "going to the ball."
Banzai51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, they we're thinking it, the dirty old bastards.
VSandsV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I...I didn't know that. Whoa
It's centripetal btw :)
K-Black ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who works with steam engines, i am very annoyed that i didn't know this.
It's almost like once you hit one though, you'll start hitting a lot lol. I hit like 4 main raffles in a row by buying 4-6 spots in each.
Rc41995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would really like to be at around โbreaking evenโ so I can go hard get the win and then go hard some more. Last two I bought 1/3 of the slots and loss then 3/4 of a NM and loss thus putting me in the hole a bit
FrauAway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PANTS ON FIRE
everything has to do with my testicles.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a sexual allusion.
I'm glad to hear this because I always wondered what kind of sick fuck wanted to express his excitement and commitment by hitting his balls against the wall.
hogger85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a governer, as the balls spun the outward spin pulled up on a valve letting some steam escape rather than enter the pistons. This would reduce the speed, so the balls would fall allowing more steam to enter. This ensures the machine ran at a constant speed and would not get too fast and shake it's tits off or too slow and stall.
"Instrument cluster" would still be immediately recognizable, though. If somebody said "instrument binnacle", I would have no idea what they were talking about. Been in Arizona for several years, but I did move here from Washington.
Was getting ready to say this myself. The dashboard is the entire panel that reaches from driver side to passenger side. The instrument cluster is the group of gauges and readouts for the car's status. Other things usually contained in the dashboard are the glove box (used to literally be for your gloves), the radio, and the temperature controls.
Blondude ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:53:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instrument Binnacle Confessional is my favorite band.
I fact-checked this with 8 online sources, and I was unable to find a single instance of โbinnacleโ used to mean โdashboardโ or โinstrument cluster/panel.โ As far as I could see, the word binnacle has one meaning- a standalone housing for a shipโs compass. So if the Brits are using the word as described above, itโs a well-kept secret.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:17:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't wanna sound like a classic culturally insensitive 'merican ... but if I heard someone say "instrument binnacle" I'd be hard pressed not to laugh at them
Damn. U.S. Mechanic here. Calling it a binnacle now. Any other good ones? I am already familiar with boot and yank tank.
ben133uk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:38:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call "the hood" a bonnet. I'm not sure what else you might find interesting. The "gas pedal" is the accelerator. We spell "tire" tyre. Coupรฉ is pronounced 'coop-aye'.
"Accelerator" is pretty common here too. You'd usually hear "gas pedal" or just "gas" though.
"Ok, now put your right foot on the gas and your left on the brake."
"Uh, I thought you weren't supposed to do that?"
"Shut up. We only exist very temporarily to demonstrate car terminology."
"What!? No, but I have a life, and dreams, and I-"
The cluster and binnacle aren't the same thing, the cluster is the collection of gauges, and the binnacle is the housing/shroud around them. Your instrument cluster is housed within the instrument binnacle. Unless you have a hud... Lol
For those losing it on binnacle, it's astoundingly a real thing, it's the small pillar with navigation instruments (compass, timer for speed, etc) on traditional ships.
lhnl ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:40:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But this makes sense - at my job, whenever our clients use the reporting dashboards that were created for them they always complain about the heaping load of horseshit in front of them.
You have clients that use something you made for them? Ours like to change the scope without telling us and then complain that it's not to their liking.
My company is coming out with a new product and they are constantly throwing around the terms "dashboard" and "the cloud". They sound like a bunch of morons. Director asked me once if I thought the new product was innovating - I welcomed him to the 21st century.
"Dashboards" are currently where all the information is on your car, because that's where the literal "dash board" was on carriages.
It's come to mean where all your information is, and it's what we call that area on a computer. At the very least, there's usually some kind of visual representation of a console or board for all this information to be put on there.
What happens when we get to a point when our "computers" are just AR heads up displays that get layered over our vision? Will we call the place all the information is kept the "dashboard" then, even though there'll be no physical item housing the info anymore?
When that information stops being visual and just becomes mental information our brains just have access to, will it become synonymous with the part of our ... "mindspace" for lack of a better word ... where we keep all info about our current position in space and time?
How we navigate information is absolutely bonkers.
Apuesto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a screen dashboard is also keeping a bunch of muddy, cruddy code away from the user.
There is also "firewall." The fire retardant wall separating the dangerously hot engine from the driver of a car.
Then, of course, there is the word "car" itself. It's a shortened form of "automobile carriage."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, the brick walls between old townhouses/rowhomes. Usually if a whole block of them burns down, it's because people built an extension the houses but not the firewalls.
Sort of. The "dashboard" on early cars and carriages was more like the slanted part of your car's floor where the pedals are, the "instrument panel" part that we call the dash nowadays didn't come until later on. Here's a picture of the Curved Dash Oldsmobile, named for its unusually sleek curved dashboard, and you can see it doesn't even come up to the driver's knees and had no instruments mounted to it.
I'm really not sure how the modern usage came about. Very soon after these first "runabouts" were popularized the modern layout with a full instrument panel and hood came along, but somehow the term mutated to mean the thing that sits in front of you rather than the part of the floor by your feet.
Edit: It just occurred to me that there's a much more straightforward way of saying that: what they called the dashboard back then would be called the firewall today, behind and usually below what we now consider the dashboard.
I mean you've got a huge herd of horses up front...
sovamind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well the steel panels used in vehicles today have a similar purpose to keep any heat or a fire from coming into the cabin. They are known as "firewalls" in the automotive industry. They are also often built with other materials to dampen and isolate engine noise too.
My car still has hand crank windows, though. The last place I wotked had trucks from 2015 with manual windows - there still out there in brand new cars.
And the game where we "call shotgun" to claim the passenger seat refers to when banks used to transfer money on a carriage and the man sitting on the passenger side had a shotgun to protect the banks property.
Also, the glove box. When was the last time you put actual gloves in the glove box?
_7POP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboard. Good one!
I will think of the original use of the word next time I create a dashboard at work.
It hasnโt really changed much I guess. Itโs still basically a thing to catch all the muddy information โdashedโ up by the system, so people can view it more clearly.
Ozelotty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny thing: In germany the part above the wheels is called "Kotflรผgel" which literally translates to "poopwing". It was named because of it's purpose to keep the horse dung being flung up by the wheels of the carriage.
Chaff5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of things about a car are old common terminology that doesn't apply anymore. Glove box in a world where almost nobody uses it to store gloves. The trunk was an actual trunk..
Mdumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like you could argue it's still used in the exact same way and still has the same function. Just change your horse for an engine and feet for wheels and the dashboard stops all that road debris from hitting you.
Thatโs a weird bit of synchronicity. I was in a drive-thru absently wondering why itโs called a โdashboardโ literally two hours ago. Thanks, man!
-Dys- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the glove box used to be a place to put the gloves they wore when holding the reins. There used to be an actual trunk they'd put things in the back. Floorboard.. etc, not much has changed about the names haha..
Now dashboards are things every manager thinks you need a million of because the next dashboard somehow is going to fix shit and not be yet another bloated convoluted piece of garbage literally no one but management and the devs ever fucking look at.
Also "fenders" on a car are the front or rear corners - it comes from the location on a ship where a guy with a pole would stand to "fend off" the dock.
Kyoj1n ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:32:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh snap!
Dashing through the snow.
But wait is that the same dash as in to run quickly?
*an additional Oh snap, I swear I've heard dash used to refer to a body being thrown on the ground or something. Like "his body was thrown out of the car dashed onto the road".
I posted this comment a while back, and it seems relevant here...
Ships used to have their rudders afixed to the right side, and this was the side they steered from. 'Starboard' is a corruption of 'steorbord' or 'steer-board.' In fact, the word 'steer' comes from the Old Norse 'stรฝri' meaning rudder.
When pulling into port, ships approached with the land on their left side to avoid damaging the rudder. This is why that side is called 'port side.' It was originally called 'larboard,' derived from 'load-board' (the side you load cargo on), but they decided that the term sounded too similar to 'starboard' and changed it.
When two ships crossed paths, the one on the right side had the right-of-way (hence the name). Since ships often passed in the dark of night, they needed a way to determine the location and orientation of other vessels. So, they afixed a red light to left (port) side and a green light to the right (starboard) side.
If the red light of the other ship was visible, it meant that their left side was facing you, thus they were on the right, and that you should yield to them. If their green light was visible, then you were the one with the right-of-way. This is where we get our modern traffic signal colors: red means stop and green means go. This same color system is still used today on aircraft--look next time you see one fly over at night
If you have trouble keeping it all straight, remember that port wine is red, and that there's never any left in the morning. Incidentally, port wine is named after the Portuguese seaport city of Porto, from which it was originally exported. All three of those uses of port that I just boldfaced are derived from the Latin word 'portus' meaning 'harbor.'
Of course, port wine isn't the alcoholic beverage most closely tied to the sea. For that honor, look to akvavit (sometimes called 'aquavit' in English-speaking countries). The name is derived from the Latin aqua vitae meaning 'water of life.' Norwegians produce a particularly unique variety, called Linie Aquavits. It was traditionally put in barrels and strapped to the sides of ships for transport. This exposure to the sea gives it a unique briny flavor. Today, they still send it to Australia and back just to give it that flavor.
As long as we're hanging out at the water level on the side of an old ship, here's an interesting fact about the phrase, "there's the devil to pay." On old ships, they made them water-tight by caulking the cracks with oakum--a mixture of plant fiber and pitch. Caulking a seam in the boards was known as 'paying' the seam. The lowest seam--the one right over the water--was the most dangerous. Sailors had to hang off the side of the ship from ropes, and when they got right down to the water, there was a chance of being swept off. For this reason, the lowest seam was known as the Devil's seam. It it was your job to caulk it, then there was "the devil to pay."
As much as I'd like to say that's the origin of the phrase, it's not. The first use predates nautical terms by a century; sailors just lifted the term and reused it. The degree to which it was contrived is unknown.
However, a phrase that does have true nautical origins is "three sheets to the wind," referring to a drunk person. While you might think that 'sheet' refers to a sail, it actually refers to ropes. Three of these restrained the sails on a fully-masted large ship. If all three were loose, the sails were fully in the wind, and the ship haphazardly rolled around, like a drunk person does while walking down the sidewalk.
Similarly, the bottom corner of a sail is called the 'foot.' If the foot is let loose, the sail dances around in the wind. It's footloose!
Kevin Bacon starred in the movie Footloose, and you're probably familiar with the "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" system. The idea, in case anyone is unfamiliar, is that Kevin Bacon has been in so many things that you can classify actors by how many 'degrees removed' from Kevin Bacon they are. (e.g. Susie was in a movie with Joe, who was in a movie with Tommy, who was in a movie with Kevin Bacon...three degrees).
Less commonly-known is the 'Erdลs number,' named after mathematician Paul Erdลs. He co-authored so damn many academic papers that you can link most other authors to him by degrees.
What's really cool is that a small number of people have both been in a movie and published an academic paper, giving them a combined ErdลsโBacon number. For example, actress Natalie Portman has an ErdลsโBacon number of 7. In fact, she's quite accomplished academically. She missed the red-carpet premier of Phantom Menace to study for finals.
The surname 'Portman' is also derived from the Latin portus. A 'portman' loaded ships.
Read the business cards. "Lost Items Found. Paranormal Investigations. Consulting. Advice. Reasonable Rates. No Love Potions, Endless Purses, Parties, or Other Entertainment".
I assume you've read the books? It doesn't turn out well for people in my life. My recommendation is get a cat and one of those new phones with the dating things on them. Best of luck.
Hmmm idk maybe wearing those gaming glasses might help, they look like those yellow shooting glasses. Might be the interpretation and processing of all the vibrant colours in that game.
Do you know Dinoflask is he your cousin (if not check him out) :P
I do not always set buildings on fire. Only when people are trying to kill each other, or there are too many computers nearby. All in all, it's my fault about 35% tops.
I almost scrolled back up halfway through to check if it was u/shittymorph, but decided against it as I wanted to be surprised. Was still a great post though.
Yeah, they're normally about 45 min to an hour long, iirc. They might be longer.
jrhooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there was a show on history or dicscover that was decent too. Secret slang or something like that.
A lot of them I knew, but they were still interesting.
Here's an old sea service one. "Scuttlebutt".
Means rumors or word on on the street, etc.
The Navy and Marines have a habit of using sea terms, even on land. Thus why in a building you will still here porthole, bulkhead, hatch, head, deck, etc.
A "scuttle" was a big jug used to store water. The opening you pour water from was the "butt". A bunch of sailors lining up for a drink from the water jug were drinking from the scuttle butt.
Thus water fountains in a navy building are also referred to as "scuttlebutts".
Thus: office water cooler talk --> scuttlebutt
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:38:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. :) I've always kinda gotten a kick out of doing that. Feel free to give me two specific and unrelated subjects, and I'll see if I can connect them!
I'm surprised no-one has taken you up on your offer yet. I'll start.
Table tennis Rule 2.06.02, which reads:
The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16cm after leaving the palm of the free hand and then falls without touching anything before being struck.
and those prolonged bouts of diarrhea that arise from spicy foods.
Funnily enough, the first and second results are both posts by him.
joedl1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you liked that, please give The Etymologicon a shot! itโs a book on the origin of words, and itโs really cool because each word leads into the next in that way. the subtitle is โa circular stroll through the english languageโ
Man, when you said that, I was really helping there was Undertaker/Mankind post at the end of that, but, alas, I was disappointed.
noahboddy ยท 199 points ยท Posted at 20:30:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(e.g. Susie was in a movie with Joe, who was in a movie with Tommy, who was in a movie with Kevin Bacon...three degrees)
Um . . . Are you talking about Susie Bright, who was in Bound with Joe Pantoliano, who was in U.S. Marshals with Tommy Lee Jones, who was in JFK with Kevin Bacon?
Well as every actor is supposedly within 6 degrees of Bacon it's not an exactly stunning coincidence....
umrguy42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:00 on January 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I remember once seeing a study that some university types did, oh, a little over a decade ago or so now, that if you used the concept of the "Bacon number" for all actors, and looked to find who had the lowest average number (i.e., the true "center" as it were), Kevin Bacon was actually (at least at the time) outside the top 1000 lowest averages. I forget who was #1, but it was somebody fairly big like John Wayne.
margotgo ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:49:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Partway through the meaning of colored lights I started to get that old feeling of "this is too cool and informative to be true" quick scroll to end okay this is all completely true.
All great lectures should end that way. Imagine the most historically moving speeches each coming to a glorious crescendo with that infamous line.
Maybe Abraham Lincoln's forgotten speech that was so good that nobody wrote it down ended with it, bewildering all in attendance including a row of time travelers in the back of the crowd.
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here back in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hะตll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table." - Abraham Lincoln, probably
Lincoln, with a keen deftness atypical for men of his era, immediately gazed across the shuffling, murmuring, crowd until his eyes came to rest upon the group of us at the rear. Traveler Holland, beside me, was quick to cover his grin but the tall man was quicker. Meeting our eyes, Lincoln slowly tipped his head in our direction, a subtle gesture lost to the puzzled individuals that divided us. What he saw in us, in our presence, our understanding of his joke--we may never know.
~ From the logbooks of Traveler Perri, ca. 2843 and 1863.
Nearly a century after my parents passed into dark space, I met them for the first and last time on a battlefield more than a millennium gone. I recalled my upbringing--not in person but through the files they left behind--and was enthralled by their insatiable curiosity for 21st century American culture. This became the inspiration for our introduction. I should pause a moment hear to explain to whosoever reads this document that the laws of the 32nd c. strictly prohibit time alteration greater than +/- 0.04%, known as the Hitler Constant. This practice is enforced with a very complex (and gruesome) system of cloning, remote murder, and preemptive end games.
I spent most of the next three decades meticulously planning the encounter, simulating the paths of each possible mistake before alighting upon my eventual actions on the ancient American landscape of Gettysburg. My parents, with the loving quirkiness born of their lifelong scholarship, travelled there for their honeymoon soon after entering into their partnership in the Martian fashion. I have chosen to end my account here, leaving my parents' own recollections above to stand the test of Time.
~ From the logbooks of Traveler Abraham, ca. 3146 and 1863.
From scratch; I had a lot of work to avoid. Technically it can still happen, we'll just have to wait a few hundred years to observe it for the second first time and a few hundred more to set it in motion.
As far as further reading goes, the only time traveling book series I've read from are "The Chronicles of St. Mary's" ("The Very First Damned Thing", "Just One Damned Thing After Another", etc.) and "Oxford Time Travel" ("Doomsday Book", "To Say Nothing of the Dog", etc.). They may not be exactly what you're craving but it's the best I can do.
Or you could post a time traveling theme on the writing prompts sub to see what people come up with.
I thought it was going to be like one of those stories my grandfather used to tell where it was very long and intricate and then at the very end say "I just made all that up, but it made for a great story didn't it?"
Yea I heard from three reliable sources his whole antler thing didn't work out to well. Good on ya' though!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:42:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I scrolled up to check, then down to make sure it wasn't a copy cat and I was about to be asked to give a mythological creature three dollars and fifty cents.
Lol I was in the same boat. I started reading about Kevin Bacon and I stopped to say this better not be shittymorph. I was too enticed to look back up because part of me wished it was.
I started reading then got worried then scrolled to the end. Then I saw it wasn't a /u/shittymorph comment. Then I was thinking of commenting on that and scrolled down to see if someone else had already done so, and found your comment. Now I don't care enough about the original comment to go back and read it.
I wonder who else has been on the same, wondrous journey.
I did it too; the entire time I was reading it I kept remembering back to nineteen ninety eight, when the undertaker threw mankind off hะตll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
Honestly once we got to Kevin Bacon I assumed we were going straight to hell in the cell by connecting bacon to Cena then Cena to undertaker and then straight to him throwing mankind of the cell but it didn't happen and now I'm sad.
Edit, the rich would probably work better than Cena because he was in the right era and has been in more movies
jebuz23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought the same thing halfway through and went to check the username!
He does it well enough that by the time you would start thinking that he'd've already gotten you
ITDad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly my thought! I thought he was really getting invested in this one, but Iโve forced myself not to check the name if Iโm ever suspicious. His comments are good, so he deserved to catch me. Ok ok with that.
Only the Youtube Red series Mind Field. He still posts other videos.
Youtube gives creators grants to make content thatโs specifically made to be Youtube Red exclusive. I canโt really fault him for taking advantage of that.
Oh, I realize now I've been a bit vague there - I assumed everyone kinda knew he started producing a show on YouTube Red which is why his content on the regular channel slowed down drastically. It's not that I wouldn't pay to watch stuff - I totally would but I can't even do that. I have a further explanation in another comment but basically I'm just disappointed as a lot of kids here used to watch VSauce when it was more regular and now they're just back to mobile games and Twitch - trends need constant work to stay relevant. Not that he owes anyone anything, but he started something quite grand and watching it fizzle out in terms of interest is kinda saddening. As a non-Muslim in a officially Muslim country, having my friend's kids or nephews/nieces quietly pull me aside to ask me about VSauce Michael almost completely changed my perspective on where this country was heading. For awhile, at least.
It's only 8 videos that are red exclusive but they're also more like a TV show than his typical videos and definitely worth getting a free trial of red to watch. Very quality stuff (as is expected from VSauce.)
I guess I'm just a bit disappointed as his content has almost come to a halt and I'm not sure he really knows how far reaching his show is - I live in a Muslim country that's become increasingly conservative over the past few decades and the amount of kids that started watching VSauce when he first came about was legitimately impressive. We don't even have a functioning science center here for children to expose themselves to that type of information (a recent survey found that more than 50% of high school teachers didn't even have a high school certificate themselves).
By comparison when I was still in school my peers were the type to get their parents to appeal to the school to skip the chapter of evolutionary theory in the textbook as it offended them too much. And they skipped it. And yeah you read that right - it was the kids that felt offended and got their parents involved. But now those same peers have kids of their own and try as they do to keep them in the local curriculum you can't fight technology, and honestly it was VSauce by itself that started this magnificent trend among those children today where they legitimately thought learning stuff is actually fun and entertaining. With that being said, children are children and when something slows down they move on to other things - now I see a lot of those same kids playing p2w mobile games when they used to be glued to YouTube. I guess for a moment I had hope for this country, but you can't make a good broth without a good long simmer - a short blast of heat isn't gonna even make soup. There's just something about his format that works in the way we were totally glued to Bill Nye; these kids are totally glued to VSauce Michael.
dcnairb ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:01:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vsauce... Sauce... Tomatoes.
Tomatoes are often called vegetables, but are actually considered fruits, not vegetables.
Vegetables... Tables... Microsoft Excel is the most used program....
thesirhc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:29:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would watch Michael read that comment.
Crespyl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:31:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or James Burke?
Dlrlcktd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But ships ship cargo..... and cats have hormonal glands on their face, so are we real?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:50:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me about the Black Metal War of the 90s between Norway and Sweden. It's been forever since I read about it that I don't remember much anymore except one drummer (I think) murdered a member of a rival band and made a necklace of his teeth.
Oh man, that's a long story, and I wouldn't know whose version to tell. If I recall, Varg Vikernes wrote his own account of what happened the day he murdered Oystein Aarseth, but who knows how seriously you can take him, and the documentary "Until the light takes us" tries to tell the other side but its veracity is debatable as well. But yea, the rumor is that before he was murdered, Oystein Aarseth, or Euronymous, found the body of Mayhem's singer, Per Ohlin, after he commit suicide by shotgun, and made a necklace from the skull fragments he collected. Ohlin, who went by the stage name "Dead" likely suffered from Cotard Delusion, the most fitting disorder for a member of a metal band.
"Yeah so if you'll take a look at the figure on page three you can see that I have ranked images of kittens from innocent butternups to sassy royalty .... Oh is that a dog out there?"
Except I won't even mention the dog. I'll just look at it, thinking about it and never acknowledge it. Then I forget what I was talking about or that I was even talking.
This is exactly how stories I tell sound. Tangent after related tangent, for hours if Iโve been drinking. But it always makes its way back to the start to remind everyone why what Iโve been blathering about for the past hour is relevant.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me it's that we're going to get to the conversational destination, but we're going to take every side road detour of explanation before coming back to the main road to continue.
Correspondingly, there is French eau de vie (a kind of fruit brandy), and there's at least a chance that it played into vodka (a diminutive form of 'voda', water) as well.
And for anyone who has read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and remembers the joke about most cultures in the galaxy having a drink with a name that's pronounced "gin and tonic", this is where that comes from.
AlbertR7 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:45:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does the pronunciation of gin and tonic mean?
It's the opposite of the real-world thing where these different words and phrases have the same meaning of "water of life".
Instead, there's "jynnan tonyx", "gee-N'N-T'N-ix", "jinond-o-nicks", "chinanto/mnigs", "'tzjin-anthony-ks", and so on, drinks that vary from tepid water to stuff that 'kills cows at a hundred paces'... but the names all sound like "gin and tonics" does in English.
As to why Adams picked gin and tonic in particular, no idea.
Kimono, kimono, kimono. Ha! Of course! Kimono is come from the Greek word himona, is mean winter. So, what do you wear in the wintertime to stay warm? A robe. You see: robe, kimono. There you go!
zander_2 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 19:42:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very interesting! Quick pedantic note, it isn't technically the ship 'on the right' that has the right of way. It has to do with the direction the wind is coming from. If the wind is blowing from starboard, you are said to be on a 'starboard tack', and similarly for 'port tack'. If two vessels are approaching each other head-on, the one on a starboard tack will have right of way. If they are approaching each other on near-parallel courses, the vessel downwind (leeward) has right-of-way, since the windward boat is basically spoiling the airflow for the leeward boat and making life more difficult for them.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:39:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THANK YOU! I could not make that make sense in my head. Iโm sitting at a (not crowded) bar, and started pushing my wallet and phone around one another on the bar other to help myself visualize how ships passing didnโt both have their port (or starboard) sides facing one another simultaneously.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
xorcon1 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:22:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When two ships crossed paths, the one on the right side had the right-of-way (hence the name).
Didn't the word 'right' already have it's own meaning? I.e. "This is my God-given right"
OK_Soda ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:36:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah unfortunately a couple of these seem like folk etymologies. Right of way obviously just means the right to pass, "footloose" refers to feet that are loose,
Loosely related, and since you did some nice origination research: I'll point out that Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon is itself was jokingly created due to its phonetic similarity to the actual concept of Six Degrees of Separation, which claims that any two humans on earth can be linked within six steps.
Vaulter1 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 18:29:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great writeup
If you have trouble keeping it all straight, remember that port wine is red, and that there's never any left in the morning.
Or you could remember the phrase "Red lights are left in port" which hints at the red-light districts sailors only got to visit when their ships were in port.
Ships used to have their rudders afixed to the right side, and this was the side they steered from. 'Starboard' is a corruption of 'steorbord' or 'steer-board.' In fact, the word 'steer' comes from the Old Norse 'stรฝri' meaning rudder.
Still called Styrbord in Norwegian :) (and Babord for the other side)
Oh and Linie Aquavit is called that because it crosses the line of the equator (Linie meaning Line)
SadCena ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:20:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was expecting the undertaker to throw mankind off the crow's nest or something
When they're at 90-degree angles to each other. If there's a ship at 6 o'clock and a ship at 3 o'clock, then the 3 o'clock ship has nothing "to its right."
It works like a four-way stop intersection.
The_Slad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:13:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well i have question that you might know the answer to.
I was once told that the origin of the word "posh" was an anagram for "port over, starboard home", referring to europeans vacationing to america. Port on the way over and starboard on the way home would give you a sunrise and sunset views bothways and so those tickets were more expensive. Is that true?
The way I've heard it is Europeans travelling around Africa, so that they would have view of the coast rather than the ocean. However, looking for a source it seems like that's not true
By and Large should be added to your spiel. Also, I slightly suspect you're Vsauce Michael.
noejoke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another alcohol that gets its name from aqua vitae is actually whiskey! It was translated to Old Irish as "uisce beatha" which also means "water of life"
Gah, I know, I know... I was simplifying it to common terminology. I felt like I'd already run plenty goddam long enough, and didn't want to add another tangential clarification on terminology. You are, of course, completely right though.
Baranyk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A man once told me you can avoid the captains mast with two shots. One for Poseidon, and one for you. Perhaps a third for me will do the trick.
Damn dog! Great stuff.
I wonder if Kip Thorne had a cameo appearance in Interstellar, but if writing team counts as much as actor, then he probably has such a number.
Considering the influence of sailing on the rules of driving that you pointed out, it seems strange that the UK is the place where they drive on the left side of the road.
quedfoot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should include " the cut of your jib," how the word jib originally was specific type of sail. Nowadays, this phrase isn't so common, but when used like I wrote it, it means: I like your style/look/appearance/attitude.
This is something that is absolutely fascinating when reading on the Internet, late at night holding your glass of selected beverage and nodding รญn acceptance as you absorb the awesome TIL and can't wait to boast with your new information to somebody you know.
However pity the poor sod unloading this story at a party, everybody around him surreptitiously fading away into the nearby bushes Homer Simpson-style, and will try to avoid the poor bastard for the rest of the evening.
It's been 2 years since I originally wrote that comment, but I'm pretty sure that I was, in fact, drunk at the time. I vaguely recall getting a few sentences in and thinking, "Eh, let's see where she goes..."
overkill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see you are a paid up member of CANOE: Committee to Attribute a Naval Origin to Everything.
Bond4141 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bangfu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was beginning to suspect that you were gonna wind this up with some reference to a wrestling match that had some dude falling into a table ala /u/shittymorph...
Todo744 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...when the undertaker threw mankind off hะตll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table. Damn you for ruining my trust in the internet u/shittymorph
You forgot, to me, the easiest way for an english speaker to remember which side is port: Both port and left have the same number of letters. It's how I've remembered it all this time.
MessrV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is beautiful
chickwad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The English names for the skunk, armadillo, and sloth also seem to have somewhat literal meanings. Actually, I guess most probably do, if you go back far enough.
To be fair, though, goldfish and swordfish are types of fish. Also, black bears and grizzly bears actually are types of bears, and right whales are in fact a type of whale.
Jellyfish and guinea pigs still totally count, though
someguy3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:51:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just looked at the Wikipedia article. Not related to pigs, not even from the same continent as Guinea. Wtf?! My life is a lie. Anyways, I get to this part,
The domestic guinea pig plays an important role in the folk culture of many indigenous South American groups, especially
Yes! A culture that truly appreciates the splendor of the Guinea Pig as much as I do. I'll keep reading and see in what amazing ways they worship the loved Guinea Pig
especially as a food source, but also in folk medicine and in community religious ceremonies
:(. I'm done reading about Guinea Pigs for the day. If the first two paragraphs pretty much shattered my worldview on them, I am guessing the rest of the page details how they tie bombs to them and use them as weapons of war or something.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:33:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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max_adam ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:37:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It must be OP's mom [add german equivalent here]
Grembert ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:28:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Es muss OP's Mutter sein.(or OS for Original Sender/Schreiber)
oz6702 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:32:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or "es muss die Mutti der OP sein" if you want to use genitive case. (I'm terrible at genders of German words so who knows if those are the right ones)
Grembert ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:03:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mutti is a "nickname" like mom but isn't really used outside parts of Germany . "Mutter" is "Mother" and it would be "des OP's" unless OP is female or more than one person.
(I'm a native speaker)
Edit: Just realized that he actually said "OP's mom" and you're correct. Don't want to delete all my hard work though.
oz6702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, the des/der difference always throws me off. But you're saying that if OP is male, it would be der?
Grembert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Articles in German make no sense at all.
No in the genitive it's "Mutter des OP's" if it's male and "Mutter der OP" if it's female.
I know it's confusing because "der" is usually used as a male article (Der Mann, Der Junge,...).
Sadly, even though we have male, female and neutral articles (der,die,das), they've somehow been assigned randomly to all the words. For example: It's "Der Mann" and "Der Junge" and "Die Frau" for man, boy and woman but it's "Das Mรคdchen" for girl.
Objects are the worst because instead of all having "das" since objects are genderless, all three articles are used but with no logic behind it. It's "der Lรถffel" (spoon), "die Gabel" (fork) and "das Messer".
And People think the Germans are efficient.
oz6702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, even though we have male, female and neutral articles (der,die,das), they've somehow been assigned randomly to all the words. For example: It's "Der Mann" and "Der Junge" and "Die Frau" for man, boy and woman but it's "Das Mรคdchen" for girl.
I grew up partially bilingual (English/German) and I took German as my elective language for all four years of HS (because, hey, easy class for me!). Even with all of that, I could never keep word genders straight.
Are there any rules that do apply pretty much universally? I seem to recall that most machines are masculine, e.g. der Staubsauger. Is that correct?
Grembert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, do you know where your German side originates from?
I can't think of any universal rules. I never noticed but you're right that most of machines are masculine but then you have "die Mikrowelle" (microwave) or "die Fernbedienung" (remote) or "die (Sound)Anlage" (like a sound set up).
Unfortunately I don't think you can learn them without checking the article for every single word. There are some words though where two articles can be used as people are a bit divided about which is correct, like "der/das Radio" or "der/das Teller" (plate)
oz6702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, do you know where your German side originates from?
Actually yes! My family on my Mom's side were German Jews who emigrated to the U.S. just a few months before their neighborhood was rounded up and moved to a ghetto. My maternal grandmother was, I think, about 12 or 13 years old at the time. I don't actually know where in Germany they lived though. Now you've got me curious. Guess I'm calling my mom this evening.
gorcorps ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:14:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard of how German words are formed like this. Good to see such a nice visual
Flyzo ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 21:43:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fridges are "cooling cabinets", vacuums are "dust suckers", germans are "World Master"
KNO56 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:48:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those examples you gave are literally the same as in Dutch. I believe all Germanic languages work in the way that you can combine words to form new ones.
All languages combine words to make new words, we just don't notice: toothpaste, mouthwash, dishsoap, automobile, all just combinations of words which describe them.
Oh! I used to play this game when I moved to Germany where I would try to guess words I didn't know by making compounds out of the ones I did know. The first time I ever got it right? Floss. I was in Apotheke and I said "Where is the tooth rope?" And the guy was like "Tooth rope's on aisle 5." I was so proud!
I think German gets such a reputation for compound words because they have drastically fewer base words that they build from than English, so there's a whole lot more recycling.
umrguy42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:23 on January 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Although funnily enough (maybe even ironic?), from what I heard, this tendency got so bad when trying to come up with the German for "recycling", they supposedly just gave up and went with it as a loan word...
xxxsur ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:37:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Asshole, dickhead, fuckface...
3226 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vietnamese language does similiar things, a shark is a fish fat a dolphin is a fish pig, sure there's more I don't know a lot of Vietnamese. Course it's a totally different kind of language but same thing.
rnoyfb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite compound word ever is the Korean word ์์ฝ. It means pill or tablet but it's literally "medicine egg."
Well, it's from the Greek dia (through) and rhea (flow), so basically the same.
DanYHKim ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:50:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite German word, lately, is "Eierschalensollbruchstellenverursacher". It's a device for breaking a perfect crack on the top of your boiled egg, so you can eat it from an egg cup. Look it up on YouTube!
I think it works out as: Eierschalen (eggshell) stellbruch (breakage) verursacher (thing that makes it happen), or something like that.
"Sollbruchsstelle" is a spot (Stelle as "place", "spot) that is intended (soll from sollen "should") to break (bruch from brechen "break") first in order to save the rest of the equipment or whatever (like a fuse).
So, the device you are describing creates a weakness in an egg's shell where you can break the egg (you can "kรถpf" an egg, i.e. behead it).
Flyzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It gets even better! Sollbruch means "must break" or "has to break", stelle is a place and Verursacher comes from the verb "verursachen" which means to cause something. A Verursacher is literally a 'causer' so to speak. An "egg shell must-break place causer".
Reddit has been slapping itself on the back for calling Raccoons "Trash Pandas" - but the Germans have been calling them "wash bears" for ages, since they always was their food with their greedy little theiving hands.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:58:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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larvyde ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:20:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A turkey is a kalkoen in Dutch which is shortend version of Calcutta hoen (Calcutta fowl)
It's called...
A "Turkey" in English
A "Hindi" in Turkish
A "Peru" in Hindi
A "Calcutta Fowl" in Dutch
A "Dutch Chicken" in Malay
An "Egyptian Bird" in Greek
A "Roman (Greek) Chicken" in Arabic
An "Indian" in French
A "French Chicken" in Irish
A "Spanish Chicken" in Breton
Itโs still happens in relatively modern times, too. When German prisoners of war locked up in Texas during World War II encountered armadillos there, they named the previously unknown-to-them creatures โpanzerschweinโ, or โtank pigsโ
I was a bit wrong. โPanzerโ doesnโt specifically mean tank, although itโs often used that way. Itโs the German word for โarmoredโ, so they were technically calling the armadillos โarmored pigsโ.
AwSMO ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 21:14:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, that's how german works.
Words can be compounded to form compound words.
I will from now on follow relevant english words with the german translation in brackets.
Captain (Kapitรคn) of a Ship (Schiff)? Schiffskapitรคn.
Now, lets say there's a girl named Barbara. Barabara really likes to bake rhubarb (Rhabarber) cake and it's absolutely delicious so everyone calls her Rhabarerbarbara. Now Rhaberbabarbara realises that she can open a bar (Bar) so she opens the Rhaberbabarbarabar. Some Barbarians (Barbaren) regularily come to visit her to eat the absolutely amazing cake so everyone calls them the Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbaren. Those Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbaren have some gorgeous beards (Bart), a Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbart. Those beards are shaved by a barber (barbier) who is refered to as the Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbier. That Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbier brews beer (Bier) in his free time, the Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbier which he sells in his bar, the Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar and it is sold by a nice little girl called Bรคrbel, although everyone just calls her Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbarbรคrbel.
So, that is the story of Barbara to show the elegance and usefulness of compound words!
They changed that character's name to "Batmanuel" in the live-action version. At first I was disappointed because I hate new things but in the end I think that's funnier since they also made him talk like Antonio Banderas.
Many years ago my great grandmother announced one Christmas that she wanted to watch "Die Fiddlemouse" which was being shown on TV. It's been called Die Fiddlemouse in my family ever since.
THAT'S STILL AMAZING! I've been learning Dutch for like 8 months now and I LOVE finding things like that. My favorite so far is "stofzuiger;" it's literally just "dust sucker!" I've been telling my friends that the Dutch word for "husband" translates back as "really enjoyed" and they think it's just the best thing ever.
I love them in German as well. Planes? Fly Things. Tools? Work Things.
KNO56 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey that's pretty good! Took me a minute there to figure it out. I can see where you are coming from, but "really enjoyed" would translate to "echt (van) genoten". "Echtgenoot" would then translate to something closer to "real/formal partner".
I'm assuming you mean echtgenoot, so I'll tell you the context in which that makes a little bit more sense than "really enjoyed".
In this case, "echt" refers to an old fashioned term for the state of marriage, instead of "really", which is the modern defenition. "Genoot" can be the past tense of "geniet", but here it is a word you can stick onto the end of some other noun to create a term you'd call your companion in regards to the word you linked it to. "Kamergenoot" would mean your roommate, "klasgenoot" would mean your classmate. So a more accurate literal translation of echtgenoot would be like "matrimony mate".
That being said, echtgenoot is dated, and I think the actual modern term we use for husband and wife are funnier and more literal. Usually if someone refers to their husband, it's literally "my man", "mijn man". You could never say that about your boyfriend, in Dutch, it's only for marriage. Same for women, it's "my woman", "mijn vrouw". When people get married, they are "hereby declared man and woman", "hierbij verklaard man en vrouw."
Usually if someone refers to their husband, it's literally "my man", "mijn man".
yeah that was covered too, haha. I guess Duolingo just likes to cover all the bases :)
although while i've got you, why is "boyfriend" the diminutive form of "friend?" I thought that was hilarious that "boyfriend" is written like "little friend"
It's definitely hilarious and to be honest, I have no clue why it is like that, I've always found it weird too and never used it myself. I feel like it's the term people use when they're in their early/mid teens, after that it becomes vriend/vriendin. Ugh, same stuff with 'verkering', pls no.
Have fun learning Dutch! (: May you one day find yourself stumbling upon the Hema to buy supplies for boerenkool met worst.
regendo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:19:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So more of a "play thing", like in German? (Spielzeug)
Grunherz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:32:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The German word "Zeug" has come to mean thing only fairly recently. The real meaning of Zeug is rather equiment or means with which to achieve something. Thus, Werkzeug (equipment with which to achieve work), Zaumzeug (equipment for bridling), Flugzeug (equipment with which to achieve flight, or flight equipment as we even call it in English), and Spielzeug (equipment for playing).
(which is why /u/KNO56 pointed out that "good" in this context is meant as in "Ware"/"Produkt", not as in the attribute "good")
Grunherz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:40:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The German word "Zeug" has come to mean thing only fairly recently. The real meaning of Zeug is rather equiment or means with which to achieve something. Thus, Werkzeug (equipment with which to achieve work), Zaumzeug (equipment for bridling), Flugzeug (equipment with which to achieve flight, or flight equipment as we even call it in English), and Spielzeug (equipment for playing).
I donโt know why this made me giggle uncontrollably...
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:15:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
English has those words, too, but we don't realize it. I can't even think of a good example. But I would have to say it seems like German has many many more of them.
(Actually, here's a funny one: before you're in first grade, in North America, you're in kindergarten. As in the german words kinder and garten. Children garden. What the fuck.)
RFC793 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:45:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, we have compound words, but donโt string 4 or 5 of them together into a single word. Only exception I can think of is antiestablishmentarianism, but that is more prefixes and suffixes than independent words.
You can toss in another prefix for "antidisestablishmentarianism." Medicine does it with Greek and Latin roots for stuff like "myelomeningocele" and "esophagogastroduodenoscopy."
RFC793 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:40 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can we throw an -ology on there? You know, the study of <too lazy to expand it right now on a cellphone>.
Actually, having written a novel-length fanfiction that's full of technobabble and somewhat abstract events, chaining lots of small words together to form new ones (such as somewhen, bareneck, or foxbot) sounds like a lot of fun.
I'm from the US. Used to speak German pretty well, now I don't because I haven't really had a chance to use it, so I don't know how much their adoption of English words has really affected me. I don't think I ever used Oldtimer or Whirlpool, though, so I doubt that has much to do with it.
At least in the US, Whirlpool is a brand of home appliances. If you just said "Whirlpool" to someone in the US they'd probably think of something like a washing machine (for clothing).
In some regions. English is spoken in so many places that it varies wildly. I'm a native speaker and have only ever used the word pullover in German ๐
Eh, English forms compound words in much the same way as German does, they're both West Germanic languages, but we just often write the components of compounds as if they separate because of the influence of French writing norms on English.
Yep. Two of my favorite examples of this are "ice cream" and "ice cream truck". Once you know what a compound is in linguistic terms, it's clear that these two are both compounds (and obviously one is a compound of a compound), and most people don't even realize because they aren't written as one word.
How is ch pronounced in German, like Church or chute? I guess it depends if it's after an s?
katflace ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:39:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neither, it's a sound that just doesn't exist in modern English. If you want to give it a try: put your mouth into the same position you'd need to make a "k", but instead open a little gap between your tongue and the ridge on the roof of your mouth that it's touching (that's called the velar ridge, by the way) and just exhale.
(It also changes on what kind of vowel is in front of it, but you probably don't need that much detail! Also, the different forms of it are allophones - that is, someone fluent in the language would perceive them as being the same. Using the "wrong" one would sound slightly odd, but it'd still recognisably be the same word.)
<sch> is its own beast entirely. Fluent speakers just recognise it as a whole, not as <s> + <ch>. I guess that's indeed like <ch> in "chute". Or <sh> in "sheep".
I don't know if the etymology is shared but that's along the same lines of what the Gaelic "loch" means--a hole in the ground with water in it.
katflace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, the one time I decide to simplify, someone else who also knows the thing I simplified away shows up... :P I think it's fair to say that it's not a major feature of the language viewed as a whole, though. And also, I honestly don't know this - are there a lot of words that only get used in Scottish English and have this sound, or is it mostly words that also exist in other varieties and just get pronounced differently?...
I think it's just that the sound survived in Scotland and didn't in much of England (or beyond). Loch is a standard and quite common English word (never Lake), but an English individual would pronounce it lษk instead of lษx.
It crops up Scottish interjections (och, ach), and it's everywhere in place names. These tend to get mutilated when pronounced by people from areas where English has lost /x/.
It also slots neatly into learning German (or Dutch or whatever else) since everyone can pronounce 'Buch' (or Bach for that matter) satisfactorily without having to be corrected fourteen thousand times.
If it's after an s, it's pronounced like chute. Otherwise, depending on the accent and/or placement in the word, it can either be said like if you said chute with the end of your tongue or like that stereotypical German phlegm sound, like challah bread.
We don't have newfangled things like "airplanes", "vehicles", "drumsets" or "tools". We like "stuff".
An airplane is stuff that flies, so we call it "Flugzeug" (flight-stuff).
A vehicle is stuff that drives, so we call it "Fahrzeug" (drive-stuff).
A drumset is stuff that you beat, so we call it "Schlagzeug" (beat-stuff).
Tools are stuff you use for work, so we call it "Werkzeug" (work-stuff).
When gloves first came around, we saw what they really were: "Handschuhe" (hand-shoes).
We also like to describe what things do directly. So we call the contraceptive pill "Antibabypille". If that one doesn't work, you'll have a toddler in a few years time. Only that in Germany that would be a "Kleinkind" (little child). When you have one you'll probably need a larger car, with a large trunk. Since you put suitcases in the trunk it's only logical to call it "Kofferraum" (suitcase-space). But maybe you'll still use trams by then, since children cost a lot of money. However in Germany you wouldn't ride a tram, but a "Straรenbahn" (street-train), because that's exactly what it is. But actually the part "Bahn" is shorthand for the full word for train which is "Eisenbahn" (iron-way). And where would you go with the tram? To the zoo, obviously, to see some sloths, only in Germany you'd have to look for the "Faultier" (lazy-animal).
When naming animals, we got lazy, though. We like dogs. Dogs are nice. There should be more dogs in the world.
A fruit bat looks kind of like a dog. And it can fly! Why not call it a "Flughund" (flight-dog)?
And what about the ocean? Seals are almost as cute as dogs! Let's call them "Seehund" (sea-dog)!
And if one dog on land wasn't enough. Tanukis look pretty similar to dogs, but also to martens. They're "Marderhund" (marten-dog)!
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:22:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but the literal translation of "glove compartment" being "hand-shoe compartment" isn't really surprising after learning that a glove is a hand-shoe.
Amaroko ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:17:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that "-zeug" as suffix doesn't really mean "-stuff". It's an old word, related to ziehen (to draw, pull), just like Zeugnis (testimony) and Zeuge (witness). As such, it's used for a wide variety of things you "draw on" to perform a task. It can also mean cloth, e.g. "Bettzeug" isn't "bed stuff", but bedclothes.
Anyway, props for not translating "Flug" to "fly", like some people do on occasions like this. Fahren isn't as specific as to drive, but let's not get into that...
"Zeug" and "fahren" having more nuance definitely is true. However the translation as "stuff" and "drive" is the one that works best in one word, although "equipment" would also work for most instances of "Zeug". And I wouldn't translate "Zeug" to "cloth" as a general rule. "Bettzeug" is the equipment for the bed and to me also includes the pillow and the blanket, not just the linens, but maybe that's a dialectal difference.
"Fahren" just is very specific. The most fitting translation would be "moving by means of a vehicle, except heavier-than-air aircraft" and that just doesn't roll off the tongue.
Clothes dryer = Wรคschetrockner
The thingy to clamp clothes in a line to dry = clothes clamp = Wรคscheklammer
Desk = write table = Schreibtisch
Website = website because it's a site on the web, this word actually works like German words.
vjstupid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gloves you say? Ridiculous, these are clearly hand shoes.
English used to do this until the Anglo Saxons started coming into contact with outsiders be they Norse, Norman or others. I guess they figured it was easier to just use someone else's word for something rather than having to keep coining new compound nouns all the time. The disadvantage of this is that other languages' words don't quite work or convey the meaning quite as well as your own sometimes. Someone, somewhere pointed out the example of "perjury" vs "oath breaking." Perjury sounds and looks cool but there's a chance you might not learn this word until quite late in your schooling. "Oath breaker" is pretty direct and could probably be more readily understood to a wider number of native English speakers.
My favourite is "by and large" to refer to a boat or ship that could sail well both 'by' the wind (sailing close to the direction the wind is coming from) and large (with the wind behind you).
I'm from the US, but i recently just realized recently that the term "mates" to refer to friends probably came from "shipmates" because of this reason. Since we don't use the term here, I always thought it was a weird way to say friend, but it makes sense when you think about how important everything nautical has been in the history of the UK.
I believe it's actually the other way around. It's from the Old English word ฤกemetta, which literally meant a sharer of food, like a table-guest. It doesn't seem to have attracted the nautical meaning until its Middle Low German permutation.
Luckily this website is full of illiterate fools that keep the nautical term โpayedโ in high usage
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Listless is not nautical.
listless (adj.)
"languid and unresponsive, slothful," mid-15c., from Middle English liste "pleasure, joy, delight" (see list (v.4)) + -less. Spenser, if no one else, tried listful (1590s). Related: Listlessly; listlessness.
list (v.4)
"to be pleased, desire" (intransitive), a sense now archaic, mid-12c., lusten, listen "to please, desire," from Old English lystan "to please, cause pleasure or desire, provoke longing," from Proto-Germanic *lustjan (source also of Old Saxon lustian, Dutch lusten "to like, fancy," Old High German lusten, German lรผsten, Old Norse lysta "desire, wish, have a fancy"), from *lustuz-, from PIE root *las- "to be eager, wanton, or unruly" (see lust (n.)). Related: Listed; listing.
While a ship listing is a much more recent word and may or may not be related.
"a lean (of a ship) to one side," 1834, from earlier lust, from the verb (see list (v.1)).
list (v.1)
"to tilt, lean, incline to one side," especially of a ship, 1880, earlier spelled lust (1620s), of unknown origin. Perhaps an unexplained spelling variant of Middle English lysten "to please, desire, wish, like" (see list (v.4)) with a sense development from the notion of "leaning" toward what one desires (compare incline (v.)). Related: Listed; listing.
Theatre and film also has some nautical terms (like crew) because as sailing ships became less common, theatres started to become more popular (or so I was told by a guide in an opera house)
I mean, pulling the ropes for the curtains and stuff was similar to what they did for the sails, and the whole lights thing for the ship lights or something. This seems to make sense.
LitZippo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a bit of shameless promotion I know, but I made a video about some common words and phrases and their nautical origin ages ago and the topic has always fascinated me. Anyway this is the video https://youtu.be/Be59jDY9dRI
I just had this come up today at work, we needed to open a very large door that doesnโt like high winds or it tears itself to pieces and I asked how much the door was rated for before we werenโt supposed to open it and they answered โ35 knotsโ. Then I asked how much is that in American because I donโt know how fast that is because Iโm not in a fucking boat you dipshit.
Freeze the balls off a brass monkey- Brass plates with divots called monkeys would hold pyramids of cannon balls. When it got really cold the brass and the cannon balls would contract differently and the pyramid could come tumbling down.
crimeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telltale, POSH (debatably, apparently)
dwkfym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yo people still sail boats
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of your jib.
ejambu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
scuttlebutt!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, learning/showing someone the ropes stems from literally showing someone the location and functions of the individual ropes on a sailing vessel.
Obviously it's still somewhat relevant, as sailboats still exist even if they've been outdated for a while now, but it's rarely used in the context of seamanship.
Aren't words like "shit" and "fuck" considered nautical terminology? I was always told i have the mouth of a sailor when I said them near old people... /s
Gravy Boat comes from the older English (not old English, just the words have been around for awhile) words "boat" and "gravy" to convey a boat filled with gravy.
The term "by and large" comes from the fact that sailing ships were described by how well they sailed "by the wind", i.e. with the wind on their beam, or sailing "large", i.e. with the wind behind them and their sails at their fullest. When a captain was assigned a ship and took it for a shake-down run, if it ran well in all circumstances he would report that "by and large" it was a good ship.
That's what happens when put people on a chain of islands for hundreds of years
okugotme ยท 3758 points ยท Posted at 19:57:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of the opposite thought, but this struck me not too long ago.
I was playing tag with my kids and noticed they'd yell "Pause the game" anytime they needed to stop. Made total sense with video games being a big part of their lives, but it was different enough from the "Time-out" that I grew up with that it stayed with me.
Language is not static...
Edit:. Gotta say thanks for the gold, kind stranger! Way more of a lurker than a contributor, but glad that my thought resonated with all of my global, internet pals. You all are awesome and I hope all of you and your people are happy and well. All the best!
SoIdidit ยท 984 points ยท Posted at 22:16:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This opposite one reminds me of that kid who asked a senator why Trump wanted to delete all the parks. Politics aside, his use of 'delete' was interesting.
I often say I need to edit something when I need to change it or fix it. I guess this is similar.
aughlord ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:44:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife wants me to commit more to the relationship, but that doesn't check out to me. She even said to merge our bank accounts, but I'll rather use another branch than let her be the master.
mooviies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:59:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just need to pull her to you
RDCAIA ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:29:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use "delete" regularly in that way, and it always strikes me as weird when I do, but my brain cannot come up with the right word.
Edit: as was pointed out, this effects a couple national monuments, not parks. The article I listed explicitly says national parks cannot be effected. Whoopsie!
neonKow ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:50:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to note that this is not a big difference. Lots of things we treat as national parks are in fact public land in other ways. BLM land, national forest, national monuments, etc.
It changes what can be done on them a little and who manages them, but you wouldn't always be able to walk into a forest or a mountain or a desert and go, "this is definitely a national park!" They all deserve to be protected, however.
Well, lots of groups wanted various monuments to be allowed to be torn down in the name of politics. Guess they got their wish for various monuments to be allowed to be torn down in the name of politics, they just should have remembered what they were wishing for was on a Monkey Paw.
lmg00d ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:46:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a child with autism who didnโt want to eat the fish on his plate of fish and chips. He didnโt even want the fish on his plate. He said โIโll eat the chips, but can you delete the fish?โ This was at least 10 years ago. Iโll never forget that phrasing.
Sounds like bad parenting if the kid thinks Trump wants to get rid of ALL the parks. Theyโre probably just parroting what their mom or dad told them without learning to think for themselves.
scyth3s ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 23:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or... It's a fucking kid. They can easily hear "he's cancelling these two parks" and think "omg he's cancelling all parks!"
Were you ever a kid? That isnโt how I ever thought of things. Youโre more likely to take things at face value and not extrapolate wildly when youโre a kid. Dollars to donuts he heard it from someone uninformed.
RDCAIA ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:38:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you. I'm always amazed at how different my perspective on life is once I had a kid. It puts your own experiences of life into perspective. Like there's certain events or things that really stuck with you in your memory during childhood...I have no idea what those things are going to be for my kid, even though I may be witness to or have an integral part of those events...and my own parents really don't know what my special memories/events are. Things that really make you into the person you are.
I grew up in a very hectic house and being an odd child myself definitely impacts how I think about treating others. The experience has resulted in my not having children of my own, but I am definitely a favorite aunt to my seven (!) nieces and nephews.
I can't comprehend your worldview because I'm not following your path by having kids, but I'm delighted that you and I have come together on a philosophy.
But it wouldnโt be. Kids donโt understand stuff like that. Thatโs how you can get away with telling them that someone who died has โgone away for a long long time,โ etc. They understand basic ideas but wonโt put it together that their countryโs leader is cutting back on federally protected lands. Not to mention that he isnโt actually cutting out all the parks. Where would the kid get that idea without it being misreported? Parents, obviously.
Whether a kid extrapolated or took his/her parents words literally, it's possible to misunderstand things either way. Why are you fighting over this?
"Did you hear that Trump is getting rid of park land?"
Would be a totally normal thing to say, but a kid could easily interpret that sentence to mean "all park land" without extrapolating anything.
Or it could just as easily be the case that the kid didn't understand a word. "Trump is cutting parks down (in size)" sounds like another accurate sentence that a kid might not fully understand.
It could even be the case that the kid didn't understand the word "delete." The delete button on a computer doesn't eliminate the entire document. It erases one letter at a time. So, depending on the kids understanding of the word, he could have had the totally right idea about what Trump is doing.
leyebrow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:17:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids definitely misunderstand things, and also come to their own conclusions, often abstractly. All the time. My sister after learning about evolution as a 5-year-old asked if our grandparents were fish when they were younger. It happens.
Arto9 ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 21:36:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well pause isn't really a videogame thing... Didn't it originate from music?
Funnily enough, in Poland, a school break would be called a pause in the past. I've only ever heard it used by the oldest teachers in primary school (and I'm 23 now), we just call them breaks now.
Yeah, but in Dutch, "pauzeren" is much broader than "pausing" in English. Pausing is generally something with music or video, while pauzeren is also used as "having a break".
Actually I don't think it's uncommon at all to use 'pause' in English to mean 'take a break.' Hearing "Could you pause what you're doing for a moment?" or "Let's just pause that issue and discuss it later" in a meeting. Or when speaking you might pause for effect. I actually think pause is perfectly valid to use in a real life game.
A quick Google search shows that "pause" originated from the Greek word for a halt. So it's probably fair to assume for hundreds of years now every generation found a new use for the word.
RDCAIA ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:28:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can only imagine that kids are using it these days because of the prevalence of DVR and digital media. They're exposed to that from early ages, and maybe only get into video games later. My 7-yr old son plays video games, but most of his friends dont own game systems. They all say pause during games of tag.
perk11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Russia it's still called "change" as in "shift change". Tells a story about who the schools were supposed to prepare.
langlo94 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:45:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call them "friminutt" (free minute) in Norwegian, thoughvthey do last for more than a minute.
Or going paintballing and saying "I like this map"
Itchycoo ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:50:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a couple of people from Virginia who called video game levels and maps "boards" instead. Like a board game map I guess? I don't know but it struck me as really strange.
It comes from classic arcade games -- Pac Man, Donkey Kong, etc. Levels were often called boards as they were static images on the screen in which the characters would move around. This usage probably came from actual board games in which a player would move their piece around the static board.
I'm guessing...? I'm talking out of my ass but it sounds good.
Sounds about right. Pretty much everyone I knew referred to game levels as 'boards' up until the PS1/N64 era. I still hear it now and then, but usually in reference to more arcade-styled games.
I'm guessing...? I'm talking out of my ass but it sounds good.
Reddit in a nutshell.
Itchycoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha sounds plausible enough to me. I always find it interesting how people say things differently in different regions not too far away in the US. I had never heard that word used like that ever before.
I find myself doing this exact thing. Last time I play airsoft I said multiple times, "Sorry, I don't know this map yet." Everytime I said it I kicked myself, but it was just so natural to call it that.
nyrol ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We used to just say โTโ and put our hands in a T shape, because we were oh so cool.
Time out was used, but in Australia we also called "barleys" if we wanted temporarily out of the game but didn't want play to be interrupted. An example is while getting a drink, or being a sneaky bugger and calling "barleys" then saying you're in again right before you tap someone and run like the wind.
Dimbit ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:41:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We used to say bars, probably short for barleys. I never knew why we said it.
Macquarie Dictionary has contributors discussing usage, but origin is more fuzzy. Even from what I know, it didn't originate from actual barley, but rather from bars. Either poles or monkey bars, as you had to touch them when you said it or cross your fingers of you weren't near one.
Ginix ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:36:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, that's a term that I completely forgot about.
Barleys really doesn't get used much anymore (at least in my circles).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like this.
It's cool to be able to bear witness to that sort of transition.
Jpf123 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:46:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why memes and slang will be ever interesting in the future due to mass media the terms and their meanings change ever more quickly but are also indicative of the times.
RDCAIA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a cul-de-sac. We had a corner house (the x) where two streets met perpendicular. The one street extended alongside our house to a dead-end guardrail/barricade that we used as a backstop for all street games.
I was wrestling with my 5 year old son when he started getting a bit rough. So, I held him back and said, "Wait, wait, we need a time-out." He collapsed to the floor and started to cry. I was super confused until I realized that he thought I was punishing him by sending him to his room.
Time out isn't used in the same way in sports in Ireland or the UK. It's always been pause for me.
rennez77 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freeze tag was a thing when I was a kid in the 80s. Do they play that, and if so do they yell โPAUSE!โ
tipsana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Noticed this with our kids 8-10 years ago. They would be playing a board game, and I'd call one to do a chore or task, and they'd yell out "Pause" before leaving the room. Cracked me up.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But pause is just the word that means pause... has nothing to do with video games.
Along a similar note, when my dad was a kid he played cowboys and Indians. When I was a kid I played cops and robbers. The kids in my neighborhood play Navy Seals and terrorists. Culture, man.
When my brother first learned to ride a bike on his own, my mother was surprised and asked him how he knew how to stop, since no one that she could recall taught him how to apply the breaks. He replied as though it was frankly obvious "I just pushed pause."
I couldn't find it, but I remember reading a study about how modern kids use their thumbs to press buttons like door bells (in the rare case they leave their rooms) instead of index fingers. This is because they learned to use things like video game controllers where you always press buttons with your thumbs.
edit: might as well throw in that index finger comes from using index cards in a library to find a book before computers and databases.
If I called out Time Out with my kids in the middle of a game, they'd all break into tears! Then through red, wet eyes and thick sobs, ask what they'd done to deserve the time out corner.
Not a term but I find it funny when you get someoneโs voicemail on their cell phone and they say โIโm not here right nowโ or something along those lines.
jfb1337 ยท 382 points ยท Posted at 23:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of Seinfeld has been ruined by phones. None of the plots work now.
"Oh there's a quirky misunderstanding, I'm at the wrong restaurant but I'll go to the correct restaurant. What? He just left to go see me at the restaurant I was previously at and we missed each other?"
Fuck all that. Now it'd be "I'm at the wrong restaurant. I texted him that I'll be there in ten, as soon as my uber arrives".
Tiz226 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:40:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had my nephews watch a few episodes and explained that back in the day we had to plan meet times or make a few stops to find our friends because we didn't have the convenience of cells. Then I blew their mind that we memorized our friends phone numbers.
Could definitely go for an episode where George thinks his girlfriend is cheating on him and uses findmyphone to keep tabs on her. Jerry tells him it's stalking he says it's not.
Meanwhile Elaine bumps into a man on the street who invites her to get coffee and it turns out he didn't invite her to get coffee. He thought he was already on his way to have coffee with her because someone is catfishing people by pretending to be her on Tinder.
Msktb ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:42:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the interest of sharing random facts, I think there are a lot of people who don't know that the melody to George's voicemail song is the theme song from Greatest American Hero. Which is still a super fun show.
Iโve wondered about that, since learning it. I was ranging from not existing to very very young while Seinfeld was on, so obviously I donโt know the culture at that time. But was that show from almost two decades before still very popular at the time (like Seinfeld today, lol)? Would people have gotten the reference? Or was George just being particularly dorky
Most people would have caught the reference. That episode of Seinfeld aired in 1997, and Greatest American Hero (which I'll call "GAH") was only about 15 years old at that point. The children of the 80's who were the target demographic for GAH when it was on had grown up to be the late 20s- early 30-something target demographic for Seinfeld. Also, most people in the early 80's only had 4 or 5 TV stations available, so even a relatively less popular show still had millions if not tens of millions of viewers each week. Finally, the theme song for GAH was released as a single, and got up to #2 on the pop charts, I think. So even people who didn't watch the show were probably familiar with the song.
I have no idea but that show was pretty popular around the time George would have been a teenager or college age, so I assume that people in that demographic would get it. Just dorky I'd guess.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:17:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please leave a message.... at the beat!
I must be out or I'd pick up the phone!
Where. Could I. Be??
believe it or not I'm not home!
<Beep>
That just blew my mind, donโt know why it never occurred to me!
[deleted] ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 23:26:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I can't come to the phone right now."
You never come to the phone anymore. The phone goes with you! You just don't want to talk to someone at that moment.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:17:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm too lazy to make an announcement. I just use the default message.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:32:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Teantis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:13:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If i had voicemail, which I don't, mine would be "wtf are you doing don't leave a voice message. Fucking send me a text message idiot." and then I'd just leave the recording on so the beep is whatever the maximum amount of recording time is for a voicemail answering message.
Jracx ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:32:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey this is John from Important job you just interviewed for Calling today you had the job, but we've decided after listening to that atrocious message that we no longer feel youd fit in here. Thanks
I'm sure I'm not alone among Millennials in that literally the only time I've ever bothered to set up or change my voicemail is when I was interviewing for jobs for precisely this reason.
Teantis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's fair. Like I said I don't have a voicemail. Also I haven't had to interview for a job more than two degrees of separation in ten years now so I forgot.
I work at a call center, and when we need to call people back (because all of our agents were on the phone and they left us a message) I hear so many dumb voicemail announcements. The worst one so far was:
"Wassup, you got Brad. SIKE, Brad doesn't wanna talk to you. Leave a message"
I immediately think of situations like the one you just mentioned.
"He sent me to voicemail."
"Maybe he just didn't pick up."
"No - four rings and voicemail is not being there. Two rings and voicemail means they sent you there."
"Okay - I have to review my entire life now..."
csl512 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:55:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I๏ธ love how voicemails say something like lHello, you have reached Bob.โ I have not reached Bob. I have reached Bobโs voicemail. Donโt lie to me.
I make a point of never picking up my phone unless I like the person whoโs calling. I also donโt like when people leave me voicemail. Never call me again.
Well, take a seat on pappy's lap and I'll explain why.
A lonnnnggg time ago, about twenttyyyyy years ago, we used to have something called answering machines. Because telephones, or as you'd call them "cell phones" used to only be available at home. (Insane, right!?). These "answering machines" were basically what you would call "voice mail". So when we said "We're not here" or "I'm not here" it was because we actually weren't here!
Now, this may sound nutty. But sometimes when people have used certain phrases or words for their entire lives, they don't just magically change them for every new technology that comes along. 30 or 40 years of using an answering machine versus 10 years of using a cell phone, it only makes sense to go with the old vernacular.
?? what do you mean, im always talking directly to the person, they just dont respond so i eventually just hang up, and then they call me back, but usually not for some time, which i find odd
"Hi, I'm not answering my phone right now, for at least one of a variety of reasons. Deal with it. You're not my master. I don't need to leap to attention every time someone decides to call me. Also, don't leave a message. What is this, the '80s?"
Actually, come to think of it, thanks to Google Voice, I don't think I've actually listened to a voicemail in years. I just read the transcriptions it sends me.
Actually, come to think of it, thanks to Google Voice, I don't think I've actually listened to a voicemail in years. I just read the transcriptions it sends me.
Fucking this. And I'm so grateful.
At the same time, it makes me seethe at those insipid people who leave a message which consists entirely of "Hi, this is soandso, call me." Like, motherfucker, you took the time to call my phone so clearly you wanted to communicate; at least give me some idea what's going on so I can properly prioritize calling you back. Is my mother in the hospital? I'll be dropping everything to call back ASAP, so you better fucking say so. Just want to shoot the shit and talk my ear off for an hour and a half? Fuck that, send me an email or text.
corso923 ยท 10517 points ยท Posted at 17:07:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Referring to letters as uppercase or lowercase is terminology from when the printing press was still used. Each letter was a die that had to be placed in a frame, inked, and pressed on the paper. These letter dies were stored in drawers or cases. Capital letters were in the top drawers (upper case) and lower case letters were in the bottom drawers.
Also, a lot of tools in photoshop (burn, dodge, mask) are named for the dark room processes that would have had the same effect.
Edit: A lot of you are asking what lower case letters were called before that. I didnโt include it because I hadnโt heard another term for them before; but a number of comments are saying the terms used to be minuscule and majuscule.
mruehle ยท 3246 points ยท Posted at 19:49:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term โclichรฉโ derived from the practice of pre-setting common phrases in type and sticking them together (clichรฉ en franรงais) so it would speed up the process of setting the page. โPeople say it so often, it has become a clichรฉ.โ
"Clichรฉ" was actually onomonopaeic for the sound made when making a stereotype, a block of text set in metal. So, in the original printer's French, clichรฉ and stereotype meant the same thing, but they took on different but related metaphorical meanings and lost the originals.
Now I'm not sure who to believe. It's now up to my own personal biases to choose which origin story fits my narrative better. Yours speaks to the simplicity in humans and our innate ability to misunderstand or even misconstrue words or actions of others we don't fully understand, instead of assuring we have received their message precisely as intended. For that reason, I choose you!
They're both right, /u/discountErasmus just elaborated on /u/mruehle 's post. The technical printing term for "pre-setting common phrases in type and sticking them together" was, indeed, "stereotyping."
Here is an article from the Oxford English Dictionary on the subject.
Two Punic Wars against Carthage, Romans donโt like Carthage very much. Last time, they got damn close to conquering Italy. So, Cato wanted to ensure no more wars against Carthage by removing their capability to exist. Ergo, Carthago delenda est.
Hannibal's legacy stands as one of the foremost in generalship to this day. Fortune smiled on Rome, but Hannibal's name invoked fear in the hearts of generations of Romans.
mr_ewe ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:24:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, the first origin story would make "the" the most cliche word in the English language!
Another valid point! I wonder if u/mruehle can support his claim.
mruehle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:41:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the Wikipedia entryf for โclichรฉโ, under โoriginโ:
โIn printing, "clichรฉ" came to mean a stereotype, electrotype or cast plate or block reproducing words or images that would be used repeatedly.โ
It wouldnโt be used for a three-letter word like โtheโ, which is pretty quick to pull from the case.
I used to hand-set lead type and do letterpress printing on an old hand press in my garage, so old printing terminology is familiar to me. I used to wince a little when I saw โfontโ used to refer to an entire typeface or even a type family, but Iโm mostly over it now. ๐ฌ
I appreciate the assumption that I know "font" is not supposed to refer to entire typeface, however I'm unfortunately undereducated when it's comes to historic and obsolete letterpress-printing lingo. What does "font" mean and how do we now use it incorrectly?
mruehle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:14:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A font is a full set of characters of a specific typeface (e.g. Baskerville) in a certain size (e.g. 12 points) and a certain style (e.g. Roman, or Italic, or Condensed). If you were a printer youโd buy a set of metal type sufficient to set a page of text in it. Old newspapers did not have a lot of variation in sizes or styles and rarely had what we would recognize as headlines because it was expensive and bulky to have a lot of fonts on hand.
A recent post I saw bemoaned the way Hollywood movies always show old newspapers with flashy headlines like โJack the Ripper Strikes Againโ in huge type, whereas newspapers back in the day were actually a dense mass of small print, usually with advertisements and notices all over the front page.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, is this related to the term "boilerplate"?
mruehle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old newspapers would receive entire articles that wer pre-set on a single heavy metal plate that could be dropped into a layout as-is. Subscribing to a syndicated service was a way to fill the page with news cheaply. It was called โboilerplateโ because it looked like a piece of thick, heavy metal from a steam boiler. Originally it meant the actual plate, but later it would be used to describe any piece of text that was standardized and prepared in advance, like a description of a company or a piece of legal text.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:09 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! That is an interesting bit of history. When I first heard the term, I thought it was related to the phrase "set in stone". That is, wording that is impressed into an unchanging format. But this makes much more sense, and relates to an actual business practice.
POGtastic ยท 579 points ยท Posted at 19:39:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly enough, this was not the case at the time of the invention of Italic type. Venice was its own republic for much of history, and only became part of a unified Italy in 1866 following over half a century of Austrian rule.
Absolutely right! However Venice was always understood to be in the geographic area known as Italy. Itโs a complicated thing, to separate the peninsula of Italy from the nation state of Italy.
True, but historically Venice was never considered part of Italy. It's not on the Italian peninsula and was its own republic until the 1860s. The idea of one unified Italian nation-state is a modern invention. Even now "Italians" will often describe themselves not as Italians but rather from the city or region of the historical city-state they are from (i.e. Milanese, Neopolitan, Venetian, etc).
southave ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:48:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Venice is a city in Italy. Italy also has the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Both the Leaning Tower and italic font are at a different angle from everything else around them. Italian writers wanted a way to differentiate important text from regular text, looked at the Leaning Tower and thought, "that'll do."
Yeah, I know. I guess what I actually wanted to write was along the lines of "i think this terms are common to most latin-based languages, which french is an additional example of". But I was damn tired so I make no sense
though the spelling miniscule is slightly more frequent, it hasn't yet become accepted as standard English and you should still treat it as an error to be avoided.
I suspect most people hear it on TV before they ever see it written down, and their brain connects it to mini instead of the Latin minus (lesser).
Literally just learned from watching Kirstie's Handmade Christmas that 'Uppercase' and 'Lowercase' came from the cases (ie: the drawers) the printer kept the letters in.
giantJim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:24:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Majuscule and minuscule are still used in french. Didn't know it was also used in english.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The technical term, yes. But in regular conversation the letters were simply referred to as either "big" or "little".
cibina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have the words "versaler" and "gemener" across the pond? In Sweden most people say "stora" and "smรฅ" bokstรคver, but "versaler" and "gemener" is used too.
And the die used to stamp the lettering to the paper were made from pieces called sorts, which would get used and worn out over the course of printing, often leaving a printer "out of sorts" by the end of a day.
It was often the more ornate letters that would show this wear-and-tear first, leading to the common advice that one ought to "mind their P's and Q's" in order to properly maintain their printing presses.
I understood that "mind your Ps and Qs" referred to a bartender notifying its patrons that the police are arriving: "Mind your Pints and Quarts",... as another way of saying "just keep your mind on your own business"
Huh. That makes much more sense; I always thought it meant "keep track of how much you've had to drink." Keeping your nose down and minding your business is very British indeed.
Volaktil ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:27:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Minding the P's and the Q's refers to paying extra attention to those letters when you're lining them on the press since the print will be inverted.
Then why not "mind your b's and d's"? Or "mind your M's and W's"?
Pretty sure the people citing bartenders reminding the servers to mind their pints and quarts is correct.
It has been used to "mind your pints and quarts," but the earliest recorded usage of it has to do with the actual letters.
That doesn't mean bartenders don't use it in that manner, it just means that it had a different meaning originally, and was adopted by bartenders to have another.
This is how I know I will never have access to a time machine. I wouldn't waste time killing Hitler, I would be travelling through time documenting the hell out of everything so conversations like this would never have happened.
I always thought"mind your Ps and Qs" was just because a small child attempting to say Please and Thank you sounds like "peas" and "nkyoo". It's basically telling the kid to remember to be polite.
Posted this above but literally just learned this 10 minutes ago from watching Kirstie's Handmade Christmas that 'Uppercase' and 'Lowercase' comes from the cases(ie: the drawers) the printer kept the letters in. Capital letters were kept in the top drawer (the uppercase) and little letters in the other drawer (the lowercase)
I believe the opposite of a capital letter is just the name of the letter. So "a" or "capital A". Informally it's "little a" or "small a". I have no idea if that is common, but that's how we spell things out loud round these parts when you're a kid and don't have time for that "upper case" "lower case" mumbo jumbo.
You basically cast a shadow over the appropriate area at the appropriate stage.
natlay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you cover the part of your picture that you want to be lighter by blocking the light being cast on to the photo paper by the enlarger. Since the paper is photosensitive, it becomes darker when exposed to light. If you cover part of the light source for a few seconds out of however long you're exposing your photo paper for, the covered sections will be lighter!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people still use those tools in actual dark rooms?
Yes. Dodging and burning specifically are techniques used when exposing a print. Dodging is when you cover up a section of the print to lessen its exposure and keep that area of the paper lighter, and burning is the opposite effect. You expose that area longer and make it darker.
Yes- you can literally just use a piece of cardstock (or anything stiff and opaque) with a hole in it to burn prints under the enlarger. Dodging is the opposite, it's generally done with a shape on a thin stick or wire to block light from the part you're dodging.
Holy crap, that video was amazing. Thanks for sharing. I never wondered why the burn icon was a hand shielding itself, but they were literally blocking the light from exposing the photograph. DAMN. Same with the feathering technique for a masked selection...jesus that guy was awesome.
To be fair to Photoshop and similar apps, you use those tools to replicate real world/practical effects so it makes sense for these tools to have those names... I mean the same software has a lasso tool! :)
There's lots of terms from typography that stem from the days of letterpress. "Leading", for example, used to be little bits of lead used to space out letters.
Likewise, a "clichรฉ" was originally an onomatopoeia referring to the sound made by placing blocks of common letters/words/phrases in the press that French printers had formed to save time
"Mind your p's and q's" also has its roots in printing presses. Since they are mirrors of each other, when you needed a q, it will look to you like a letter p.
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...and those Photoshop tools are often representing real-world physical effects, such as light "burning" an image onto photo paper, or "dodging" the light, or "masking" the paper from the light.
This fact is interesting because even in the example you give, you refer to upper case letters as capital letters, but lower case letters have nothing else to be called. What did they call lower case letters before that?
Photoshop is also literally named after the photoshop where photos got processed.
natlay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm proud of myself for actually knowing the photo one, since I still develop film for my photography class and have just recently had to burn and dodge some prints for my final.
Also, filters. There's actual contrast filters we put in the enlarger to change the contrast of our prints. Basically, photo filters are actual physical objects, not just instagram effects!
news flash, PRINTING presses are still used. How do you think they make then newspaper and magazines and labels on cans of food? You meant "typesetting". Edit: a word
This is also where the phrase "mind your P's and Q's" comes from as obviously backwards they appear like each other so those who printed in this way had to be careful (not sure how common this phrase is internationally but we use it in the UK as a way of saying "mind your language")
Hollra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly the phrase "wrong end of the stick' is from printing and refers to when a type setter would accidentally forget to reverse a line (stick) of lettering they had prepared. When this happened it was because they had literally started at "the wrong end of the stick'"
There's a lot like this with printing. Spacing between lines is known to designers as "leading", this word comes from the practice of putting different sizes of lead bars between the lines of type when typesetting
Capital letters were in the top drawers (upper case) and lower case letters were in the bottom drawers.
Why? Don't you have to reach the lower case a lot more often?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got to see this sort of thing a long time ago. My ex had an uncle who owned an old printing company but he had retired and simply locked the doors leaving everything just the way it was. It was pretty cool to see all the letters and the press. I have no idea what his intentions were for that business but I'm sure he's dead by now.
Oh neat I've wondered this before. In Sweden we just say small and big letters.
Fraerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a multi-email conversation with a developer trying to explain what I meant by specifying that values in a specific field had to be in uppercase.
That explanation of upper case/lower case is hella interesting. I always that it was because the letters were simply larger, and therefore were up or above the smaller, lower case letters.
I think the tools of photoshop are named as they are for the early adopters of the first editions of photoshop who almost certainly came from the dark room. Since then, not really any reason to change it if people understand what the tool is/does. Then again, you could say the same thing about every word in this thread!
Sirefly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still call it "typing" when we don't use the printing dies called 'type'.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We also get leading from the strips of lead. Em- (as in em dash) is still used in typography and web design - and comes from the width of the letter M.
Calling them Capital letters is even older though. Originally it was just an all-caps font that was the standard font in use in Rome, the Capital. It's the one you can still see carved into stuff all the time and there's no V, just a U that looks like a V. You'd never mix a majuscule font with a minuscule one in ancient Rome.
Technically it references the nickname of television being "the tube". Of course, that nickname was derived from the picture tube, the main component of a television set, as you've pointed out.
Just no reason for me to ever upgrade. TV is a dead medium.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first television my family had was one that had tubes in the back. When one burned out you simply went to the local store and bought a new one.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:32:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm not mistaken, the picture tube itself was a large, specialized vacuum tube. That was why they had the 'exaggerated rounded corners' referenced above.
The rounded corners is from the shape of the tube and manufacturing technology at the time. The actual aspect ratio of the logo comes from the 4:3 ratio of televisions. I have 4:3 CRTs with sharp corners and a 16:9 PVM CRT with rounded corners.
Related. YouTube is also the replacement for public access tv. These were usually a low channel on cable that was open to public use and people would broadcast all kinds of crazy โshowsโ on that channel. YouTube is basically the internet equivalent.
If my meaning wasnโt very clear watch the movie Wayneโs World. Which is about a show on public access tv.
[deleted] ยท 30835 points ยท Posted at 14:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if percussive maintanence works with children. Have you tried confusing it with a logic bomb you then never explain? That usually reboots its cognitors.
I learnt that from the Flintstones. When Fred gets hit on the head by a bowling ball and becomes his 'posh' alter ego 'Frederick' he needs another 'bash to the noggin' to turn back.
It's handy advice. 100% scientifically proven and medically accurate! I've used it many times to restore the personality of my brother.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not your fault you can be careful with the first one, two tops. Then you realize they are actually more resistant than you thought and don't worry as much.
The best bit was after the initial shock and awe campaign of anger and rage perpetrated by the wife in the immediate aftermath of the "event". I was deemed not trustworthy of night feeds for a week so jackpot!.
No chance i think without doubt that split second of half awake and realisation of what had happend was the single most scary moment of my life and I have been shot at and woken by incoming IDF without a similar level of panic.
grumflick ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 23:14:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a disgusting way to talk about someone you love.
Even though this is just a joke, it makes me really upset.
I hope you treat her better throughout her life than the way you are now - making fun of her intelligence and joking about how you dropped her on her head.
You brought her into this world, she did not ask for you as a mother, so you better start respecting her and act like you love her, not insinuating that sheโs dumb to a bunch of strangers on the internet.
Did your baby get knocked out when you dropped her on her head, or did she stay awake?
mrweenus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:04:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if there is "fast forward", why didn't we ever use "fast backward"?
ipodpron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Young son calls chocolate milk 'cold chocolate'. Being that he has had 'hot chocolate' i.e. hot cocoa. Can't argue with that logic, so I've started using it as well.
FrauAway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but it's a portmanteau of fast forward and back
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My son, 5, loves using the term "yesternight", even though neither my wife or I have ever used the word. I was going to correct him but it's such a cool word that we just roll with it.
That is a very common language learning error called "over-generalization". My favorite is "lasterday", which comes from combining the idea of "last night" with "yesterday".
I actually prefer it over the correct phrase: "the-day-before-yesterday"
Wait what does rewind even mean in this context you guys are all talking about? You guys are confusing the shit out of me lol. Do you mean like rewinding a video?
No, what is frightning is that her family nickname is "the beast". She is a year off secondary school here in the UK and they should be affraid, very affraid.
tue2day ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is your child a member of INGSOC? That's doublespeak.
Without DNA evidence i am going to have to say no, but was she dropped on her head as a baby?. There is a scientific link you know!. Well i think there is....well maybe, my highly scientific research via this reddit comments section is still in progress.
You reminded me of a phrase I hear in Spanish by Cubans when they tell you that they will call you back: โTe llamo pa trasโ instead of โTe devuelvo la llamada.โ โPara atrรกsโ means in back/ to the back. So they are saying they will call you in back/ at the back and it sounds super weird and awkward.
In our house we have the " head kid". Once you are the head kid you get to ride in an open front seat and you are head kid until you do something stupid, and you also get to delegate tasks as long as you do it fairly. At that point you are demoted and a new head kid takes over based on recent behaviors.
I'm the just the age that getting vhs movies was on its last breath, and had dvds for most of my child hood, and rewinding tapes was a thing for watching movies for family gatherings was a thing for me
cwall1 ยท 575 points ยท Posted at 19:49:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the save icon being a floppy disc.
I have Photoshop open right now, and all the icons for different tools are steeped in deep history and tradition. The dodge and burn tools for instance represent real implements photographers would use when exposing negatives.
Edit: Just scrolled a little further down and someone has said this one already of course
I once had a lecturer tell me that his younger students referred to it as the "Honda sign". They knew nothing about floppy disks, but had to make an understandable reference to what icon to click when they wanted to save.
related, the fact that the symbol for pressing play is an arrow. (see the youtube logo)
comes from cassette tapes, which could go left or right.
wildgift ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:40:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cassette recorders had only the rightward facing arrow.
Reel-to-reel recorders had left and right arrows.
Both had the double-arrows for fast forward and rewind.
kamomil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pen tool, as a tool to create Bezier curves, is kind of a loose approximation though. A rubber band might have been a better representation.
When I learned Avid editing, all of the tools and menu items, related in some analogous way to physical tape editing. I set in and out points and I was fine. I felt that it was designed for people who were familiar with older technology
cwall1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. In a lot of ways I hope the older tech stays around; at least for photoshop it enhances and enriches my experience to work with the actual tools and mediums while learning the program's functions.
"Bendy bone thing"....haha. You mean the rotary phone ear piece? Hahaha. That's hilarious. The bendy bone thing is something I, hopefully, will never forget.
I liked the early cell phone commercial where dude takes his girlfriend to a Mexican restaurant and gets the Mariachi band to sing โAye, aye ya yaye, Susie I want a cellphoneโ
BravoR2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
34HoldOn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For an added bonus, that commercial uses stock audio for the hospital PA which was old by the time that commercial was filmed. You can hear it on Queensryche's album "Operation:Mindcrime" on the intro track "I Remember Now"
I_am_Bob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sure did
nats15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bula vinaka seaside
34HoldOn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my buddies in high school introduced himself in the senior video with that.
ass2ass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's ironic is that if they actually took the time to dial up one specific friend and tell them that you had a baby it's probably a lot more personal than you'll get with most people these days.
Kaarsty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just about peed my pants reading that
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LK13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who was that dear?
It was Bob, they had a baby... itโs a boy.
iAnimus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*WehadababyEETSaboy
MrCrash ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 17:00:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this guy uses olde tyme telephones.
1mikeg ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:12:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more that sweet spot between when they automated collect call operations and then basically eliminated collect calls. You couldn't get away with this with a live operator.
When I was in high school my parents getting a collect call from one of us kids knew it meant "That kid is where he said he'd be about now and needs you to come pick him up." If the parent wasn't expecting such a call then they'd accept the charges and see what was going on.
vsync ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:23:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would be annoying if you had to let them know of a change to an existing plan. Guess you you could call back again to signal conversation actually required.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my siblings used to call home collect and when the operator was asking my mom if she would accept the call we would say really quickly when we would be home or where we were then hang up.
The first touch tone phones were released in the 60s. Are you saying that your first experience with a handset was before the touch tone phone?
The handset icon probably became popularized with the advent of cordless phones. With corded phones, when you picked up the handset, you immediately got a dial tone in the receiver. With cordless phones, you had to press a button to "pick up" the phone.
My grandma still used a beige rotary dial in the 80s when I was a young little shit
Teantis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:01:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf was with the eighties and beige? It's like they just discovered the color and just started using it on fucking everything out of over enthusiasm. So many beige objects in my childhood.
z500 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We used one in my house in the early 90s. That phone is actually still around somewhere I think.
The first touch tone phones were released in the 60s. Are you saying that your first experience with a handset was before the touch tone phone?
Rotary phones didn't disappear the moment touch tone was invented. In the area I grew up, touch tone was an extra service you had to pay for, so my family only had rotary phones when I was younger. Eventually we got phones with buttons, but still used pulse rather than tone dialing. ("Pulse" emulates the way rotary phones dial, which consists of very quickly hanging up and picking up again: once for 1, twice for 2, all the way up to ten times for 0.) I don't think my parents got actual touch tone until the late 90s.
The handset icon probably became popularized with the advent of cordless phones.
I'm pretty sure pay phones used the handset icon on the side long before cordless phones became popular.
Clearly it receives and also transmits. Where I'm from we just called it the handle.
BikerRay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe; I'm in Canada. Spent 30-odd years in the telecom industry; a whole bunch in the testing/design of station apparatus (i.e., phones) and their acoustics. Nortel, when it existed.
There was a rotary phone ear piece in a lego set we got, and my 2 year old knew it was a phone. How? No fucking idea. My husband and I are still baffled by that one.
It's not just rotary phones that have that shape, though. Further, the change in shape of the phone was an aesthetic difference, not anything that was functionally required.
Handset. Speaker on one side for your ear, microphone on the other for your mouth. Rotary phones as well as touch-tone phones had these. We aren't talking about the ear cup from older phones.
worrymon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the handset - the earpiece is just one of the bends.
"Rotary phone ear piece".... haha. You mean the handset?
The term "ear piece" was more often used for candlestick phones, which weren't even rotary phones originally, and it only goes up to the ear not mouth, and looks like a tall bell shape. The thing that today's icons take their shape from - from traditional rotary and touch-tone phones - is called the "handset".
Can you imagine having a medical emergency and trying to figure out where your cell phone is at the same time? As you get older, that landline is a $15 insurance plan that means that you'll get an ambulance as soon as possible.
gorocz ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 19:05:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
trying to figure out where your cell phone is at the same time
never further than half a meter from my hand to be honest...
I'm the same normally, but I would hate to have that odd time where I've left it on the bathroom counter or charging in the bedroom be the time that I need it right away.. especially as you get older and your memory might not be as sharp.
Oh my God. I had the worse lower back muscle spasm of my life a few months ago. My fiancรฉe was down in San Diego with her sister and I was at home in the LA area. I had just gotten out of the shower and was naked with a towel. I called her on my cell phone in the living room to ask when she'd be back, and she said about 3 or so hours. I placed my phone down on the counter after the call, and bent down to pick up a piece of paper on the floor. Before I got to it, my back locked up and I crumpled to the ground screaming in pain. I couldn't move at all without excruciating, 10+ pain, effectively paralyzing me. I laid still crying due to the pain for the next two hours when I started panicking. I took my towel and slapped it off the counter so i could reach it on the ground, but it fell the opposite way. I was there for about 4 hours and then my girlfriend came home. However, she had lost her key to the apartment and couldn't get in. Her sister had a spare key in her garage, so she went over there and spent another couple hours looking for it. About 6 hours after the spasm started she finally got in the house. She couldn't help me get up or move me without me screaming like a little girl, so we waited til morning time and we called 911 and the fire department came and helped get me to the car to take me to the ER. I felt so helpless being a few feet from my phone but being unable to reach it for hours. At least I knew it wasn't life threatening.
That would be very intense. I'm glad you were okay! I recognize that in a situation like this where you can't move a landline may not be any more helpful if you can't get to it.
I know that crippling pain very well and feel for you. Luckily when it happened to me my wife was home and was able to call for an ambo after 30 minutes of me being completely incapable of getting up off the floor.
To be honest, an Echo or Google Home would be a better solution. You can call any phone and can do so by yelling out. If you're worried about an emergency, even if you remember where a lan line is, you still may not be able to get to it.
This is probably the best solution to the concern.
mbz321 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:33:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the only functional purpose I see if these devices....elderly or people with medical issues. I can't believe so many people buying them up and putting an open microphone in their home. Yeah, my smartphone is spying on me already, but why add something else to the mix?
It's demonstrably false that these are actively recording ambient audio. I would not worry about them being used as spying devices as they are so incredibly limited compared to the NSA dream devices called smartphones.
If anything, the more you do with home assistants and less on your smartphone, the less spying can ultimately happen.
If itโs not a corded phone, you can still just as easily set it down and not remember where. Happened to me loads as a child
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On many, many phones thereโs a button your press on the landline base to make the phone chirp until itโs found
NightGod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A salesman at a company I worked for in the 90s spent four days lying on the floor in a puddle of his own waste because he had a stroke Friday evening and couldn't reach the phone. No family and people didn't get too worried until he didn't show up for work two days in a row.
I hate OP's argument. There are lots of medical emergencies that can leave you immobilized. Having a mobile phone on you (nearly) all the time mitigates some of the danger in a way that a landline can't.
You can register your address with your cell carrier so 911 can access it. Of course that doesn't help if you're at someone else's house, but there's still GPS which can give a very accurate and quick location.
The emergency services by my mom's house use a regular local phone number. They say you should call that rather than 911 because it will lead to a faster response time. Now, idk about all that, but it makes me wonder if that number would bypass the Google Home/Alexa restrictions on emergency calls.
Not in Canada. Your call gets routed to a 911 dispatch center (in Alberta, there's one in Edmonton and Red Deer), they ask the nature of your emergency and then route your call to the correct response.
Damn, I one of those people who constantly loses their phone. I just never really got attached to it so I don't really care about where I leave it half the time, and then I'll get distracted and forget where it was.
deptford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention that with a landline the operator usually can get an exact address even if you're unable to speak. With a cell phone they just can hope to get into the general area depending which cell tower picked up the call.
I might be wrong but canโt the dispatcher track your phone based on gps when you call? not that they have access to i๏ธt all the time but when you call doesnโt your gps activate? I mean itโs 2017 not 2005
vsync ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:25:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Playing Ingress or other location-based games will showcase for you that it's not always completely reliable and severe GPS drift is not that rate of an occurrence.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:28:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to me that still seems like a small concern. I donโt really want to pay for a landline in my house when I already pay for a cell phone that does the same thing and more, ya know
I think there was a study done where people called 911 from cell phones inside the dispatch center and their tracking system thought they were a block or two away, I'll see if I can find it when I'm not at work.
There was a news story done by one of the big 3 and I think they said it depends on your dispatch center having the technology to get GPS data from cell phones. Last I knew, it wasn't federally mandated to have such technology in 911 centers.
My phone GPS is also inaccurate in places with Lots of tall buildings, as gps doesnt like them.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:16:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of my brotherโs crashed into a pond/lake thing in front a neighborhood 2 or 3 years ago and called 911 on her cell phone. Apparently the call bounced off a tower in a different county so emergency services ended up looking for her in all the wrong places and she drowned. No, I donโt think they can read your GPS.
Either that or my area has outdated shit, which is totally possible.
in circumstances like that I agree, i๏ธ was just saying that if I was in a situation where I would need a home phone to call 911, my cell phone would probably work just fine instead.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would hope so
mbz321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she should have tried 911 instead?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, E911 is supposed to be able to automatically pull the GPS from your phone when you call to get you to the correct 911 call center and provide them with your location. The problem is that when you're inside GPS isn't always super accurate. If it can't get a satellite fix it falls back to cell tower triangulation which can have an accuracy as low as a few hundred meters, especially if you don't have good coverage in the area so only one or two towers can see your phone.
evknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately technology has been slow to catch up in this area. Some phone providers and dispatchers having been working to bring the this tech to 911 call someone but it is far from universal.
vsync ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure. Most of the time.
kam0706 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Generally no but thereโs new technology coming through to try to make it more commonplace. The current systems (at least where I live) canโt access that data.
Thanks for this! We've been maintaining our land line even though we all have cell phones now. It's just hard to let it go knowing this has been our "family's phone number" for 30 years! Your comment gives me more justification for keeping it.
This reminds me of my wife. Her main argument for keeping the landline is always "But we've had that number for so long". I can't remember the last time I used it. Hell, I sit and listen to it wring all the time because the only "people" that call it are telemarketers or bill collectors.
Mdcastle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:15:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister and I bought our parents house. We still have the telephone number they were assigned when they bought it in 1967.
Weird, because we have kind of the same deal. The phone number we have belonged to my Dad before we got it (only for 10 years or so). My Dad and I were living in an apartment when I turned 18. Then my now-wife moved in and my Dad moved out and left us with the apartment and the phone number. That was like 18 years ago so I guess our phone number is at least 28 years old. You've definitely got us beat there.
When we moved house, (before cell phones were common) we transferred the land line number. While we were moving, the number worked at both addresses. Since it was the same number, we couldn't call if we needed to ask something of someone at the other location. But... if we picked up the phones at the same time, we could talk like we were on an extension in the other room although we were miles apart! We just planned "pick up the phone on every hour and half-hour" so we could communicate if necessary.
Pro-tip: log the calls, and get the callers to pay you the fine ($1,500 per call, is it?) for calling you when you are listed on the registry, and use THAT to pay your bills.
It's nice when I need to give someone a real phone number, but don't want to give them my cell number. I use my cell phone for business. I expect that there may be calls coming in that I WANT but where I don't recognize the number (new clients!!) So, I generally answer it even when I wouldn't answer my land line. And, I might have clients all across the country. EOD in Washington state or California is well into the evening here. And, a late day there is well into the night. So, I almost never turn my cell phone off. I don't need junk calls coming to my cell phone.
Of course not indeed lol. Hah, the last owners of my house put a bunch of Ethernet ports to all the kids bedrooms from some weird back room where they had the router. Except I don't want the router there, don't have kids, and would rather have an Ethernet jack by the living room and where I put my computer. So I have a bunch of wired Ethernet jacks that are now useless to me and needed to put new ones in anyway. Someday.
In the mean time, I'm planning on giving a set of Powerline adapters a go, and see how they perform in my house.
If it's better than wifi, then that will do a long way toward being able to put off the ethernet project. ;)
Avery3R ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:38:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cell phones have E911. When you call your home address will pop up on the dispatcher's screen, regardless of where the cell tower picks you up at. If the cell tower picks you up close to your home they can pretty safely assume that you are at home
E911 doesn't use your billing address. It uses a location provided by the carrier calculated using the cell towers or, if possible, location data from the handset itself.
Avery3R ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:13:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With t-mobile at least, you can set your e911 address on the website.
In the UK your credit score is positively impacted by having a landline. Implies Stability.
Namika ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good finances also improve your credit score, and spending those ~200ยฃ a year from your landline towards investments or paying down debts would probably be more beneficial.
My landline is $44/mo. The taxes are more than the service. I live in the sticks and the only reason I keep the landline is because cell service is sometimes spotty.
malarky0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the issue with 911 and finding cell phones isn't for the CALLER, but the RECEIVER of the call. When you call 911 from a cell phone, 99% of the time it gets routed to the Highway Patrol, then from there they transfer to local EMS. Then, they can ask you for an address since they can't get an accurate location through a cell phone. Through a landline, EMS call centers get the physical address instantly, like caller ID.
That is the sole reason I have a landline. I lose my phone all the time, and once I thought my dog was having a heart attack and couldnt find my phone to call a vet or figure out where the nearest e vet once (thankfully he was just excited to see me and I was having a panic attack but what if theres a real emergency?)
mbz321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except in a lot of places, landlines are deteriorating and telcos aren't repairing them willingly anymore. The line going into my parents house had issues but Verizon didn't want to fix it, so they dropped the landline for MagicJack.
I recently switched over my internet/cable/phone to a different company. And no, the phone doesn't go through telephone line. But I do remember a disclaimer when I was looking over the paperwork. They have a system in place that will allow a 911 call center to track where the call is coming from and provide your address. But there are slight chances it might fail occasionally (power outage, ect) so they wanted their customers to be aware of that. No idea if it's as effective as telephone line tracking, but it's something.
Also, my plan would have been more expensive without the phone added on anyway.
1mikeg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:42:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto to all of that. The crazy thing is when I signed up with my phone company I had to "digitally attest" that I wouldn't sue them if I didn't have access to 911 service during an emergency because the power was out or the internet was out. Shortly after that, they sent me an ad to buy the battery backup for the modem they sent me that would ensure it would still work in case of a power outage.
JMV290 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have a system in place that will allow a 911 call center to track where the call is coming from and provide your address
Cellphones have this as well though. Both are part of e911
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In most areas cell phones go to a different call center. So it's not that they won't know where you are it's that you could be on hold for a long time. My wife had to call 911 from our house once after a man chased her on the street. She was on hold for like 20-30 minutes on her cell. After that we got a VOIP, be cause those go to the same center as a regular landline. Flowroute can get you a phone line for like $2 a month that's perfect for emergencies.
vsync ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe it sits on a different VLAN with reserved bandwidth and has a backup battery to provide line voltage.
Though mine is Vonage so I can't get smug. Especially since they're obviously going through increasing financial difficulties and nowadays often don't even have trunk lines available.
skrame ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard from a few different sources that the landline will work for 911, even if you don't pay for phone service. Just plug the phone in and it should work.
I've certainly heard that about cell phones. That it doesn't need a service plan to dial 911 so long as it has a signal. A reason why places like women's shelters ask for old phones to be donated.
Because I have nothing better to do I found a rather old article about landlines. I guess it depends on where you live if you would be able to 911 from an otherwise inactive line.
gorocz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've certainly heard that about cell phones. That it doesn't need a service plan to dial 911 so long as it has a signal.
That is definitely true - when you remove your SIM, it says "Emergency Calls Only" same as when you're outside of the signal coverage of your provider.
vsync ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a GSM phone you should memorize 112 because it's required by spec to work everywhere regardless of country/region. Even in the USA.
jimicus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah - it isn't as simple as that.
While there IS a mechanism built into GSM to allow phones to connect to the emergency services even if they don't have a SIM card, there isn't an obligation on the part of network operators to make this happen. I'm not aware if there's any way for your phone to check whether or not it can short of actually placing a call.
Not if they're not active, I think. Dry lines might work.
On the flipside, think there may be laws making telecoms companies maintain older networks to working spec so that most cellphones you'll ever find, plan or no plan, will be able to call 911 from anywhere that has coverage from a lot of networks (hence why most plan less phones show "emergency calls only")
Or also in my case, I want a hard line if I ever need to call 911.
I'm just going to get life alert when I turn 40.
jimicus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, one thing I really needed when I jumped on Reddit this evening was a reminder that (at 38) I'm apparently elderly enough to be 2 years off needing a life alert bracelet.
I guess the next thing I'll be looking for is carpet slippers and haemorrhoid ointment.
This was much more of a self-deprecating joke about my non-confidence in my ability to take care of myself than it is about 40-year-olds being elderly.
Just think about this: If after discovering there's no more toilet-paper in the bathroom, you can still manage a pants-around-ankles shuffle across the house, you're doing just fine.
jimicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know you're an adult when you check there's sufficient bog roll before dropping your trousers.
You need a hard line for Life alert. Or at least digital voice from the cable company. My grandparents got one of the cell tower based landline phones and they said that you can't connect home security or Life alert to it.
When I had a home security system, I had to have a landline (or in my case Comcast)
Many parents of children who employ baby sitters keep home phones for the purpose of 911. With enhanced 911, the panicked baby sitter doesn't have to know the address of the home to summon help.
My internet package with phone line rental is about ยฃ37.50. The package without a phone line is ยฃ39. I don't even have a phone connected to the socket. I am also on fiber so this doesn't really make much sense to me.
Fun fact! In many apartments (and maybe houses, Iโm not sure) you can plug a land line phone into the existing wall port and successfully dial 911, even if you donโt pay for the phone service. I think California has a law that says it must be in place for emergencies.
I have a voip home phone just because it's a shit ton cheaper than having a cell phone plan (we go on prepaid instead). I pay 1 cent a minute for anywhere in North America, and 1-800 numbers and the like are 100% free.
Old article that I had posted in another comment. It depends where you're at if a "soft dial" is required to be left on when service is otherwise turned off.
I actually use our home phone number when calling my parents. It's nice to be able to call a number that both my parents are equally likely to answer. I know it's viewed as an anachronism, but I don't think it should be.
I do the same-- I'm the only person that calls it these days, but at this point it's tradition. It was the first number I ever learned at that last bit of childhood that is still current. So I'll call the house phone until they deactivate it.
You can have a very cheap voip landline if you know how to set it up. About 1 a month to have a number, and 1 cent a minute. I think you can get unlimited minutes for $5. (those prices are voip.ms)
You can also use your voip to call on wifi, which can be useful if travelling internationally.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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phidus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:41:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I was wondering when someone older than 18 would reply to that.
mongcat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:58:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a home phone, I can't get a signal because of the foil-backed insulation in my house
skrame ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:11:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My children (4 and under) have never seen a functional "bendy bone thing", but when they found a play one in my parent's toy box they knew exactly what it was. I'm not sure how; the old receiver looks nothing like the smart phones they knew.
Always ridiculous when applying for jobs, and the website requires you to input both your mobile number and your home phone number...
lmnjello ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:35:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The handset is still completely relevant though. Pretty much every phone you will ever use besides your personal cell phone still looks like that. Every business still uses these phones. Any job you ever have or desk you ever sit at will have these phones.
For some reason I have a home phone. I live with my parents though so it's not TOO surprising. I'm honestly not sure WHY we pay for a home phone, given that the only people who ever use it are telemarketers.
I still have one of those. Living with my parents and working from home sucks. This is just one of the reasons -- spammers have the power to make random loud noises appear in my workplace, and I have to get up to stop it.
I still use one of those. Itโs Bluetooth and connects to my iPhone, sure, but as a kid of the 80โs/90โs that grew up around these, thereโs something nice about having one of those wedged between my ear and shoulder to talk to people thatโs more comfortable to me.
Something about the iPhone makes it so uncomfortable to talk on and, even though I donโt talk on the phone much anymore, Iโd much rather use that old style handset than have an iPhone pressed against my head.
A co worker told me a story about a kid who went to make a phone call and he held the phone on top of his head. I thought the kid was joking because this is something maybe a toddler would do. But the kid was serious.
Are you the middle schooler I heard a story about?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Home phone number?
BearAnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm, you mean a handset? Cause those are still widely used for every phone that's not cellular. In a business for example.
toth42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is it called in English? In Norwegian it's name is "the phone pipe" actually, so we say "legge pรฅ rรธret"(lay the pipe on) for hanging up, because that what you did, lay the handheld thingy down on the table-thingy.
Akyrael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Home is where the heart is.
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nukii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most offices still have the bendy phone things.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or that bendy bone
Good lord. Lol. Wow.
Akuzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best thing I've ever read that has made me feel old lol
Joetato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with home phone number? People still have landlines. I have a landline! I've never so much as plugged a phone into it, but I'm paying for it for some reason.
Strange thing is I don't even know the number and have never given it out, yet I'm somehow still getting calls on it. I can see missed calls every month when I go to pay my bill online, as you can apparently see this stuff online now.
epsileth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Retro bendy bone thing for your smartphone? Bluetooth models exist also.
Dude, my aunt and uncle bought me an adapter for my old iPhone that was literally just one of those bendy bone things on an old school curly cord that you plug into your mic port. It's probably the worst gift I've ever received.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Home phone number
Until recently "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" on NPR offered as the prize for their games "Carl Kasell's voice on your home answering machine."
agoodall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son needed glasses as a child (in 2002). This was before he knew the alphabet, so they used symbols, like cat, car, house, etc. One of the symbols was an old fashioned telephone. He said, "thinking chair!" The optometrist looked at him funny, but I laughed and explained that he was right. It looked vaguely like Steve's easy chair, his "thinking chair", from the kids' show Blue's Clues. The phone handle looked sort of like a chair back and padded arms. He had no other point of reference for the shape.
My dad will give up his home number when you pry it from his cold, dead hands.
He constantly complains that the only people who call are telemarketers and the like, but will he get rid of it? Nope. Just keep on throwin' money down the drain.
I still have a magneto crank phone. Before he died, my grandfather re-wired it so that it would work on modern phone lines (now the crank just rings the bell).
It was the very first phone they got on the farm back in the 1920s. My grandfather went on to work for Bell Canada, and actually installed the first automatic dialing switch in Toronto back in the 1940s.
Yeah we still have them at our family farm between the different houses. They were working up until a few years ago. One ring was Grandma, two was Uncle Clarence.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an old phone where you pick the earpiece up off a cradle and talk into the horn bit on the base that my grandpa rewired to be a lamp. Pick up the earpiece to turn it on
I used to hear it on game shows all the time, when people were cutting to commercials. The announcer would say "we'll be back after a message from our sponsor, don't touch that dial."
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:47:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:59:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of cars still have dials for radio frequency control and volume, it's just not analog.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:30:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And "rewind" currently means to reverse a recording, whether or not an actual tape is being wound back up. Definitions change. That's what the question was about; words that made sense when they were first used, but have been left behind by changing technology/culture.
The phrase "dial a number" originated from the actual dial that was used to enter the number. It currently just means to enter a number. That's the point.
Imagine how old people feel that the dude up top described the phone icon (a stylized receiver) as "the bendy bone thing".
kbg12ila ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow lol. True.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial is shorter than "press numbers on your phone to call someone."
pmacd00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or having a phone โringโ. I know some still mimic the ringing sound but phones donโt have bells on them like they used to.
Vorxious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would even "the phone is ringing" be incorrect? We don't use bells anymore.
JFeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a teenager at work tell me yesterday when I dialed the work phone to hit send. I said this isn't a cell phone. They just looked confused. They have literally never used a regular phone before.
elee0228 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still dial a lot of numbers when I'm at work. But, the phone is a program on a desktop and its quicker to remember the phone number than to scroll through the contact list, even with a mouse wheel.
I have had to teach my kids to dial 911 push 9-1-1-green. It doesn't automatically call on a cell phone and if they are too young they won't realize it...
Very few sounds make any sort of ringing sound anymore.
wpiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See here, stop
The telegraph had many terms, stop.
that we still use today, stop...
iki0o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say dialing a number is still relevant, then I remembered that phones were dials back then.
baoparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
English isn't my native tongue but why is dial not legit anymore? I mean, I still dial numbers on my smartphone? Is dial directly linked to a physical action that I am not aware of?
Dials are surfaces that show numbers/frequencies in a circle, to dial something used to mean to rotate a physical device to select things on that dial.
Pushing buttons isnโt the same thing yet we still say dial.
baoparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaah itโs from those phones! Thanks, gotcha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Growing up my family had a rotary phone on the wall. We also had a party line. It wasn't fun.
What are you talking about? We still dial numbers. The definition of dial is โcall (a telephone number) by turning a disk with numbered holes or pressing a set of buttons.โ
We still โpress a set of buttonsโ to call a telephone number. One of the definitions of button is โan element of a graphical user interface which a user can select to perform a particular action.โ
So yeah...we still dial phones. What did you think we were doing to call people if not dialing? Like why would you think pressing the buttons on your smartphone wasnโt dialing?
beatakai ยท 3344 points ยท Posted at 16:20:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend is a pediatrician and she was telling me how kids these days have replaced this (๐ค) with just a flat hand.
ssseltzer ยท 1357 points ยท Posted at 16:46:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep! The kids I nanny &their friends do this. And they pretend to type on their palm to send texts and emails more than they make pretend phonecalls.
chanaleh ยท 993 points ยท Posted at 18:21:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at daycare, I noticed this a few months ago. And the preschoolers will sometimes get a rectangular wooden block to use as a phone.
This made me laugh as my soon-to-be two year old daughter takes framed pictures off of tables and tries to โswipe left/rightโ with a look of frustration as they donโt โrespondโ to her touch.
Last Christmas we had football on TV on mute while everyone was talking and not really paying attention to the TV. My cousin's one-year-old daughter kept touching the mute ๐ symbol and trying to swipe to get football off the TV. It was adorable.
laz3rman ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:54:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christmas with Football instead of Basketball! The monstrosity!
IlezAji ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I spent an afternoon with my brother's gf's extended family not too long ago. Her nephew was so accustomed to streaming services that he couldn't comprehend TV channels having a schedule. At first it was a little concerning to my old person brain but then I reflected on how little television I watch these days that's not part of a streaming service.
I was at a rest plaza and this kid kept complaining to her parents the map on the wall was broken. After some confusion they explained it's just a Backlot map, not a computer screen.
I've always wondered what astonishment I'd see if I could take one of today's screens in to the past and trick someone in to thinking it was a photo, then hitting play. I guess I get to experience it backwards, where kids only know screens and look astonished at paper.
Kaarsty ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 20:45:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw kids at a spelling bee pretending to write on the palm of their hands or type on a phone on the palm of their hands to remember how to spell a word. That was neat... ONE girl used her foot to draw the letters out on the carpet. Humans are amusing.
boom149 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:46:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did spelling bees in middle school and I would tap my fingers on my thumb as though I was typing a word on a keyboard. I actually still do that, not to remember how to spell words but just to have something to do with my hands when I'm walking or whatever.
atree496 ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 19:39:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too be fair, we did that as kids with the blocks, but that's because it was the closest we has
I work in daycare too. Do your kids also put their block "phones" in their shirt the way some moms put phones in their bras?
chanaleh ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:41:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah! I have not seen this yet. Well, I've seen a few put down shirts, but it's usually because they need two hands and don't want someone to take their phone.
The inventor of the Palm Pilot tested the concept by cutting different sizes of wooden blocks, walking around the office, and pulling them out of his pocket to scribble on them with a pencil.
Out of curiosity, do people still use PDAs? What's the advantage compared to a smartphone?
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:26:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The advantage would probably be the PDA having absurdly long battery life since it can be super low power and still fulfill its purpose. I donโt think theyโre really used though anymore.
I agree. PDAs mostly disappeared as smartphones got their features, and then some.
I think these days the closest non-phone products used instead of PDAs are small tablets or Internet-connected devices like the iPod Touch (which is basically an iPhone without the phone).
I've heard from a friend they use them where he works for security reasons because internet connections and stuff like that. Not sure if that's true although it seems reasonable.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd still use my iPAQ Pocket PC, if it could still work. The software was very good, compared to phone software. I used to be able to create an SQL relational database, including input forms, on it. Also, using "Graffiti"-type handwriting with a stylus was very fast and accurate. I could write things without having to look at the screen. Because it used a sharp stylus (or a fingernail), the interface was very fine-grained. Buttons could be very small, for instance, and so I could have more options at-hand.
I've used PDAs since the time of the Apple Newton, although I never used the Newton. I used the Casio Z-PDA. It was a DOS/Geos based computer with Graffiti handwriting and a PC-compatible NEC V-30 CPU. It had 1 MB of total RAM, of which 640 k was saved for the system.
My 18 month old son likes to use a large flat piece of Duplo to pretend heโs making a phone call. Heโll bring it over to me like โMummy phoneโs for you!โ Bless him.
gigu67 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 18:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
22 here as well. Also feel uncomfortably old after reading this comment thread.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my grandson was just a baby I was playing with him on the floor. I had a plastic thing that had inside, blue colored water and a little boat. The thing was about the size of a phone and sort of shaped like one. The minute he saw it he put it up to his ear.
fishred ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:34:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my four-year-old will use anything as a phone. A couple of years ago he got a pretty cool toy car in the mail from a relative. As soon as he got it out of the box he was running around the room pretending it was a phone and making emergency calls on it.
I thought it was funny because when I was his age I'd've been able to pretend just about anything was a car ...
dramboxf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My now 8-yo granddaughter, when she was a toddler, used to imitate my wife talking into her cell's speakerphone by walking around, holding a playing card in her hand and babbling into it.
OdeeOh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP banana phone
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:03 on December 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends' 3-year-olds has a flat lego base that she moves blocks around on while telling us she's programming on her tablet. I look forward to having her around to explain future technology to me.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 20:34:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've already had to scoff at a younger relative's plight of having to keep a blog with ready-made programs for a college class. In my day, we had to code the damn HTML ourselves!
I'm writing html for a class right now. For some reason, it's making horizontal scrolling for one page, even though all the other pages don't do that.
Te-Rex ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:42:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was with a friend's first grade class a few days ago where they were having a concert and saw a little one with a rectangular foam block. She was holding it up, pretending to record the show. It was hilarious.
It's not that hard to hold your phone so as to type with two pointing fingers instead of the thumbs. It's good to have in case you are typing a lot and wanna switch up fingers.
kuenx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Call me hand"? I thought that meant "hang loose".
laxt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In fairness, I'm in my late 30s and use my phone for data a hell of a lot more than phone calls. In fact even before smart phones, I always have. Flip phone would be used more as an mp3 player with some internet capabilities, rather than a phone.
If you think this is a neat idea, BTW, you should definitely read China Miรฉville's book Embassytown. It's excellent, albeit a huge brainfuck.
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:29:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Star Trek: The Next Generation. Episode โDarmokโ. This is a reference to the Tamarian language which uses only references to stories and myths. โDarmok and Jalad on Tanagra.โ - two historical figures work together on an island. โDarmok and Jalad on the ocean.โ - the two sail together after working together. And so on. If you donหt have the knowledge what those people did, you donหt know what the sentence means.
Rylester ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:29:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Close, it's an episode in the Next Generation series. They run into a species called Tamarian. They have no concept of sentences in a formal sense. They speak purely in metaphor. Every metaphor is a person, or people, and an event it's never literal and has to be given context.
ranma1_5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:30:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, got it. Thanks! Fixed
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:30:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, no. Itโs the Tamarian Language from TNG โDarmokโ, see my other comment.
NX7145 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This entire thread is amazing
Lebagel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:22:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's circa 1 year old step daughter got one of those base flat pieces of lego and held it up to her face saying "blah blah blah" (she was too young to talk).
It was one of those moments for me where I realised there was a big disconnection between me and the younger generations.
I actually think I remember that being something I heard talked about. Like, that being a way that secretaries would motion that there's a call for someone and things like that.
sueca ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:28:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also been asked by a child why I'm holding a phone to my head. He didn't know you can use it to make calls.
Everyone's saying it's weird that children are embracing new technology. I gave an example of myself as a child embracing new technology, so like to people my parents age it may have seemed odd seeing toddler me play with a fake mobile phone just like some people now find it weird to see a toddler pretending to use a touchscreen. It's all totally normal in my opinion!
I hope that made more sense! :)
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:04:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's not that people are saying it's weird because it's an abnormal for children to do that, but moreso because the idea is so foreign to them. Like waking up in a country where people speak a different language from you - it's not weird for them to be speaking the language they know, but it sure would be a shock to your system, something you might describe as "weird".
ksa10 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:46:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're using the wrong gang signs to convey information. It ain't natural, I tell ya.
Really? Wow, that's very interesting. That's honestly something I never thought about. The flat-hand "call me" sign feels so awkward to me, haha. I never thought I'd experience this form of social gap.
[deleted] ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who are these people that hold a phone up to their ear. It's very strange. I can't talk like that for more than about 30 seconds without reaching for the earbuds.
I'm talking flat palm version. I can't figure out how to make it not feel super awkward.
RDCAIA ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:04:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, Im confused too. I asked my son and he made a C-shape with his hand like he was holding a cellphone to his ear. The open end of the C would be facing your cheek. Could that be what they mean by palm? I don't know of any reason a flat palm could serve as a phone.
When I was a kid I'd use my index and pinky as the phone so my thumb could be used as an antenna.
grntplmr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:50:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the point on that page that shaka "does not yet have an emoji representation" and then all the emoji examples of the "call me" hand are totally just shakas.
EatATaco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had no idea it was the call me hand. I was always like "people still use the hang loose hand?"
grntplmr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I've ever used it in text form, but will occasionally employ it physically, generally in a sarcastic manner.
I would not have believed you if a friend had not recently told me that his daughter does that. Actually, I still found it hard to believe until I saw her actually doing it.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:52:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:38:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been doing the same oops
Teantis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 34 and that emoji means hang ten or hang loose not a phone. You do that in real life but it only means a phone if you put it up to your face or mime putting it down.
Teantis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got confused by the emoji too. "kids have replaced hang ten/hang loose with a flat hand? How does that make sense?"
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine doing an eye test with a 4 year old that has that old phone icon. Kid didn't know what it was if his life depended on it, nothing wrong with his eyes though. Wonder how many wrong diagnosis that caused.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:25:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Olly0206 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 16:35:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thumb/pinky sign? In some contexts it's used to symbolize holding a phone up to one's ear/mouth. I don't mean to condescend, but if you were unaware, older phones had a mic and receiver that where shaped in such a way so that when you held it in your hand, each end would be where your thumb and pink are in that gesture. One being at your ear and the other at your mouth. Not too dissimilar from smart phones but without speaker phone capabilities and the mic stretched further out away from the part you held on to.
In another context, in Hawaii it's derived from a guy, who's name I forget, worked for the Railroad company (I think? I forget some details) who had an accident and lost his middle three fingers. Being left with only his thumb and pinky. Instead of letting him go since he could no longer perform his primary function, he was re-purposed as a crossing guard of sorts to keep kids from playing on the train tracks and potentially killed. When he waved he only had the thumb and pinky. So the kids would wave at each other that way to signal to the others that he was or wasn't around and they could cross or play without his interference.
Am I going crazy or do most people still have home phones like these? I definitely do, as do most (young) people I know. People in this thread are talking about it like it's a rotary phone or something.
I feel like these threads are full of people who don't have jobs. Like 99% businesses have at least one landline phone. If you work in an office, you probably still have opportunity to use a fax machine.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:24:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, also sitting at my desk with a corded office phone in front of me. Granted, it has a screen and video-call capability, but still there's the cord. lol
Of the places I regularly go (my home, my friends' homes, my office, my gym, convenience/grocery stores, various bars), the first three categories definitely don't have them, and if the latter three have them they are not in my vision.
Olly0206 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:27:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have one like this anymore. My family got rid of it before I ever moved out 15 or so years ago. We all got cellphones and learned real quick we didn't need a land line anymore.
I'm seeing a variety of things throughout this thread where, presumably, younger people don't know about things that I thought were still very common, like a land line telephone.
I rented a spot in 2001 and the landlord was all quick to appologize for the Rotary phone on the wall. He said he would get it removed asap. I insisted he not. We barely had nokia cell phones, but them days still needed landlines for shit like my AOL dial up. People would love to fool w it when they came over. Often if the cordless was dead or couldn't find it, we'd dive for that wall phone. "Hang on bro I'm stuck to the fkn wall lemme ring u back when i find my cordless." Dialing a number felt like an eternity on that thing but was somehow fun to me. The sound of dialing is what intruiges me. Bzt_bzztztztztztztzt.
Olly0206 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's derived from the Hawaiian origin. I believe it transitioned from kids waving it at each other as a sign that it's ok to play on the tracks to surfers waving at each other to signal that the surf is safe/good. That, I believe, is where the added "hang ten" saying came from as well. I'm not real smart and have no experience surfing but I believe "hang ten" has something to do with surfing.
Namika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh thatโs interesting. My 5 and 3 year old use the old hand sign but then again my wife is deaf so we use ASL in the house.
Samcian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm teaching drama to 12-13 year olds, so this is actually really interesting to me, as kids of those ages still all, without fail, use the thumb/pinky one, is it just with younger kids that they do the flat hand, or is it ones around 12-13 as well?
I saw a video, where somebody hand handed their old gameboy (the classic old school grey brick one) to a toddler, and the kid didn't try the controls. She was poking at the screen getting frustrated it wouldn't work.
This kid knew how to use the touch screen, but the d-pad and buttons were not intuitive to her.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:42:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work as a school based therapist for children in grades 4-6 and I have never seen anything like that. I mean, there's still phones other than smart phones out there. This is just someone/reddit blowing shit out of proportion
I get the mental image of a preschooler being utterly baffled by Bananaphone and Raffi having to re-record it as [insert name of cellphone-shaped food here]phone.
So when im trying to get some moron to hang up the phone in traffic it'll just look like i want to karate chop them. (Which i do, sometimes a good chop can knock some sense into someone.)
Why? We did the hang signal before because we needed to represent a phone. We don't need to do that anymore. We already have our phones. The new signal is to just pull out your phone and point at it.
I was on a trip recently with the basketball team I coach and the cheerleaders came along. Their coach is much younger than me (I'm 40) and I saw her pantomime to one of her kids to check if she had found her phone. She held her hands out in front of her and mimed texting. It dawned on me that I would have made the hang loose hand and put it to my ear for the same effect. Then I realized I'm old.
Children using a flat hand is so weird to think about! I was talking about this thread with some friends and using a flat hand to show example was so awkward. It makes sense because that's essentially how we pick up and use smart phones for phone calls. This is so interesting.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I can understand both gestures. But if you think about it, they both still get the message to everyone. I mean, if you made an ok hand ๐ and held it up to your cheek, people would probably equate it to ๐คor โ.
I mean, yes. They can doesn't mean they will. We can debate the risks associated with black market abortions, and we'll probably agree on most if not every aspect, but proper abortions, legality aside, don't make one sterile in theory, which is enough to negate what the other guy said about abortion patients being all sterile.
Not necessarily. I'm in the same industry as OP, and the vast majority of inbound and outbound contact centers are either already softphone based, or moving towards softphones.
They still have those for some phones. The difference between that, and a regular headset is that the one that lifts it up, allows the user to answer the phone remotely.
If you have a regular headset, or even a wireless headset, you need to hit a button on your phone to answer it. You have some buttons on your headset, but they are for volume up/down, mute, and to turn off the headset.
With the model of headsets that actually lift the receiver, you can be 20' from your desk, and if you hear it ring, you hit a button on the headset, and it lifts the receiver, and then answers the call for you.
Nextiva is fine if you can get a good manager. Our Nextiva manager sucked and we eventually complained to his boss enough that we're now assigned a new manager and he's awesome. We like it for our clients though, because that "20 second answer time" (or whatever it is now) for Nextiva tech help is certainly great.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You worked for them? Or still do? I know James Murphy.
My desk phone at work is at a 45 degree angle, so I'm not sure whether I'm hanging up the bendy bone thing or just putting it down. I might tip it up further to see if it will genuinely hang.
Look at the old phones in the movies, where you held the earpiece in one hand and talked into a little trumpet on the phone itself. When finished, you literally hung the earpiece on the lever which disconnected you.
On the phones at my work, there's a little insert in the earpiece cup that you can remove and put in the other way, doing so makes a little piece of plastic stick out that nest in a slot in the earpiece, so that the phone does indeed hang if you elect to mount it on a wall.
On those desk phones there should be a slot on the bottom of the pocket for the earpiece that a small tab can slide in and out of which allows the handset to hang.
OP meant that the origin of the expression is from when phones were commonly mounted on the wall, and you would literally "hang the receiver up" to terminate the call.
Whilst I can imagine there's the odd wall-mounted phone still around, I can't imagine it's common enough that it's relevant to the "a huge portion of the population".
That's interesting - in English the phrase "put down the receiver" means the same as to "hang up", but just "put down" on its own doesn't have the same meaning.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would still take it a little further to say even more recent wall-mounted phones don't exactly "hang" the way the original ones did. Like originally, the mouth piece could sometimes sway by the cord the way it hung on the mount.
Yeah I would say almost all places of business still use a land-line. The whole point is that it is a fixed location and not moving around. When you call a Doctors office you specifically want to speak with the person who is sitting at the front desk. When you call a retail store you want to know that they are definitely open for business because a human being picked up the phone at the desk.
I work in an office as a software developer & while I technically have a work number, it just forwards to my personal cellphone. We don't have physical phones at our desks.
There is a phone room for taking calls, and several meeting rooms have phone systems, but they're all generally all speakerphones, and even then they're used infrequently compared to video calls via our laptops.
ben_neb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not the person you asked, but I work in IT, and the last two places I've worked, we've done a roll-out of IP phones to replace all physical phones.
I'd imagine the existence of "real" phones in the office workplace is not going to be a thing much longer.
IP phones are still mostly landlines with traditional handsets you pick up and hang up, they just transmit digital audio instead of analog. That's not going away anytime soon because wired audio quality, especially through a network contained in a building, is better and way more reliable than audio over wireless networks.
ben_neb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should have been more clear, IP Phones with software front-ends only. Cisco IP Communicator, and things like that. I guess you could still say that you are "hanging up" your USB headset when you're done with the call, though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This still not the original origin of "hang up the phone." What we do now is more place the phone in it's base. The original terminology was created from phones that had a manual ear piece you held in one hand and the microphone you held in the other. The ear piece had a hook you would hang it from when not in use. I'd be hard pressed to ever think you had a job that used these: old timey telephone
If your referring to "dial", the same applies. a dial is actual a disk, which in this case referred to the rotary dial of old phones. See the definition for further clarification. Also hard pressed to think you've had a job with rotary phones.
This is an example of a second degree semantic shift (I think that's the right term?).
We think of "hanging up a phone" as having shifted from putting a receiver in a cradle to simply any form of ending a call. But it shifted TO putting a receiver in a cradle from literally taking the earpiece and lifting it to a head-level hook of a wall mounted phone. Literally "hanging" the receiver "up". Not to say there aren't still raised, mounted phones, but far far fewer of them than there are receivers.
helix19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you put it down or do you hang it up on the wall? Old phones used to actually hang on the wall.
Are they on the wall? if not, you are not hanging them. You are putting them down.
VDukeIX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But very few phone's still "hang" on the box. Does your workplace have phone's that are mounted to the wall with a hook that the receiver hangs on? They are still out there, but pretty few and far between. Usually you just set the phone down, not hang it up.
Even then most people just push the end call button to hang up. The receiver on the phone doesn't really hang anywhere. It just rests in its resting place. Plus, ear pieces and headsets; most of the time I don't touch my phone's handset.
For years, I've found that few people have phones in my offices. Office landlines appear to be used only by cold-calling recruiters and vendors, and as such wind up being just a liability.
At the desk I use when Iโm visiting the office, a handset exists. Iโve never once used it. Between the attached headset and my mobile, it just has never left the cradle under my power.
Opening a phone conversation by asking "where are you" is also a new phenomenon, as prior to 2000-ish, you generally had to know where someone was in order to call them.
Do you actually hang it up? Like the bottom of the phone is dangling? Maybe youโre not really hanging up either.
meukbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://imgur.com/a/hLfGE is a telephone you hang up (the receiver is hanging) https://imgur.com/a/NxJu6 and everything newer is a telephone that you "put down".
I'm pretty sure you don't hang up the phone, but put it down.
I have worked a lot of businesses where your handset for your phone is replaced with a headset (wireless or not) and you hit a button instead of physically hanging up a phone, so it isn't only mobile phones.
Software Engineer here. I don't asnwer the phone, but we have a few wireless handset floating around and a positively Ancient polycom on the conference table. All of these thigns have real, physical buttons that you push to dial or hang up.
But if we're talking about kids, they probably aren't working in offices or restaurants.
Ryslin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sort of. We don't actually "hang" the phone anymore. The phone used to hang from (typically) metal bars that were attached to the holder, perpendicularly to the wall. The way the phone rested on those bars was in a hanging position. Now, when using landlines, we typically "lay down the phone" in the holder that's on the desk. Sometimes the holder is on the wall, but even then, the phone doesn't hang from the holder. It's placed securely into a compartment.
No. You set the handset down on modern phones. You're not hanging the ear peice "up" onto the switch that literally disconnects the call. You didn't set a handset down back then, you "hung it up".
Semantics, but we are discussing semantics, so I wanted to point that out.
toth42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think hanging up the phone literally
Ahem.. You don't literally hang out up, do you? You lay it down, so you actually just used another term fitting the post :)
I work in a large MNC in nordic Europe, everyone has a company issued mobile phone, no desk phones around. Even at the reception. Although our colleagues in Germany are a bit more old fashioned and still use desk phones. Maybe depends from the country.
The origin of the expressio actually comes from the very old style of phone which had a separate earpiece and mouthpiece. To end a call, you would hang the earpiece back on the vertical piece. Even with rotary phone or modern landline phones, you're not really "hanging" the receiver, so much as you are just setting it on the base.
The type of phone with the earpiece and mouthpiece integrated into the same handle was already popular by the 1940s, so "hang up" is actually like 70 years out of date.
Until wireless audio transmission beats wired audio transmission in quality (which I personally believe will be never), wired telephone systems will always have homes in business. Using a standard Cisco internal phone system is an absolute treat compared to the audio quality we've gotten used to on mobile networks. In most cities, there is a fiber network between most buildings and calls between buildings are also very clear. Wired phones aren't going anywhere they're too nice to use.
NDaveT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in an office and my "phone" is a headset that plugs into my computer. The phone software is Skype.
There are VOIP phones that work with our system, but they cost a couple hundred bucks and the headset is like $15, so I get a headset.
Think about it for a minute. Do you "hang the phone up" or set it down? Original phones hung on the wall. Now, most are counter/desk top and don't hang, so, even though the person you responded to has seemingly never experienced a home/business phone, we don't hang the phone any more.
I work for a Fortune 200 company. We're moving to new offices in the spring, and they're going to issue everyone a cell phone rather than have desk phones.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister-in-law still uses a landline. She has a cell phone but never uses it. I got rid of my landline in 2015 and started using my cell phone for all calls. It felt strange to me at first because I am 63 and have always had a landline.
As a programmer, I've never understood why my office needs VoIP phones at every desk, in addition to a hardwired ethernet connection. Like, there's already an IP network in place, why do you need two of them? Give me a headset and Skype/Google Voice/whatever.
I havenโt had an office phone in 7 years! I donโt have any clients who donโt use an online service like Skype or webex, either. I think the last time I used a phone was to order room service in a hotel
Exactly the same. Every job I've had we at least have 1 landline. Millenials still know what a landline phone is, and picking up the phone is important in most jobs. They aren't extinct. You just don't need to own one personally.
dorky2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never had a job where the phone was mounted on the wall and needed literally to be "hung up" when finished with the call. All of my office phones have been desktop models and my retail and food service jobs have had cordless phones that cradle on a shelf.
Do they still call the thing you hang up non-cell phones on - the "hook?" This is from early phones when you actually hung up the separate earpiece on a hook. But by the 1940s, you hung up the combined ear/mouthpiece (receiver) on a flat platform with 2 buttons.
I know we still use the term "off the hook" for crazy.
Telecommunications companies use software to interface with the phones and rarely touch the physical handset. This is because of advanced integration between the systems and phone network but also because they can monitor everything that way. I worked in a call centre for 4 years. Never hung up a phone because you couldn't. You have to click the end call button.
Landlines are still standard for most businesses yet the number of times adults ask me if I can "just text them" their information is astounding.
KyleGG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Big businesses rely on the switch-style telephone system for internal communications. It allows them to create their own distributed telecommunications network and feed it though to the outside world how they see fit. Whether it be encryption, security safeguards, outside access, etc.
NightGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a huge corporation. One of those ones you've definitely heard of. There isn't a single 'real phone' in our entire building outside of the security desk. The rest of us use soft phones.
Yea but it's been compartmentalized to be common at work. If I'm not there and I think of hanging up or using a phone, the old school version isn't even a passing thought. If I'm at work it is.
Seriously... you don't have auto dial for every person in the world. Not serious.
civex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think hanging up the phone literally is still very common for people at work
The origin is with this phone, where you literally hang the phone.
May I suggest that with modern office phones, you don't 'hang it up,' you return the phone to its cradle. Even the old dial phones weren't literally hung up -- they were returned to their cradles.
Clbull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in two call centres. I donโt think Iโve seen a proper landline phone in ages. Our telephone sets used cheap Plantronics headsets and not actual curve-shaped receivers.
majinspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a truck dispatcher, I'm on the phone all day. People like us use wireless headsets; we don't actually pick up the phone to call unless we forget to put the headset on it's cradle/charger properly.
Hang up was referring to how people would literally hang the phone on the wall back when rotary phones were a thing. The phone would literally hang there, not rest at a 45 degree angle on a desk.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Every office I've worked in has proper desk phones. They're much better for long conversations
Are your phones on a wall? When you end a call and put the phone down, is it hanging, suspended by the speaker? If not, youโre not hanging up the phone, youโre โhanging upโ.
For last 3 years we haven't had phones on most desks in office - we had VOIP phones that look a bit like a traditional phone, but now if you have a phone it is just a piece of software on your laptop that connects via network to exchange. But almost all verbal communication is done via Business Skype or Webex style meetings so no need for phones for most of us.
mrterrbl ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:26:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As soon as quantum clocks are widely available in cell phones, those "hang up" phones will disappear.
spyro86 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:40:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until the age of 18 when are kids going to interact with a corded phone with a base? Home phones are almost nonexistent if my friends and family are anything to go by, so even cordless phones are something rare.
But many kids and teenagers these days have never worked any of those jobs (yet), so they may in fact be pretty unfamiliar with this type of landline phones.
the_agox ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:54:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More and more people with desk jobs don't have phones on their desks. When 90% of my business communication is via email, a desk phone is a distraction device. The conference rooms have phones for conference calls, but it's easier to ignore the handset and use it as a speaker phone.
Surprises me... The rest I get: one place where you don't care which of several people you talk to. But offices? Where I live, everyone has a cell phone and no desk phone.
I work in an office. We have very few โrealโ phones in a building with 1000+ employees. Most use Skype for Business or their company provided mobile phones. Even those โrealโ phones around, use speaker phones or are portable, so no real hang up gesture.
someguy3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just made be realize we're going to get kids entering the workforce that have only ever used cell phones. A work phone might be the first time they see a 'normal' phone.
So you have to close your eyes to use it? No thanks. Display it directly to my retinas and turn off the display with its technopathic signal commanding.
This. I want cybernetics. I want a virtual HUD printed over my vision, so I can always see what time it is, or what temperature, or what my blood sugar and pressure are. I want to watch TV with a streaming video connection directly to my optic nerve.
Belgand ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:54:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This has always been my response when someone would say that wristwatches are pointless and they just tell time with their phone. The wristwatch was developed and became ubiquitous for a reason. It solved a problem. Having to dig a watch out of your pocket and open it was tedious compared to just glancing down at your wrist. In many cases your hands were busy or it would be a challenge to get a delicate, easily-damaged object out of a pocket. Using your phone is recreating the same situation.
Don't discount something just because you think it's "outdated". Try to understand why it came about in the first place and if your new version still solves the same problems.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed that. Lots of people that treat them more as a somewhat inconvenient (having to press a button vs. just looking at it) watch/trendy accessory than... well, a pedometer.
Also, pressing a button is more convenient than fishing a phone out of your pocket and pressing a button, so the pedometer is still a better-ish watch.
"terminal" is a pretty good term, used in sci fi a lot. If you think about it, most of what we use our phones for is accessing information or resources outside of the device itself, much like computer terminals of old.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually what Microsoft is calling their next big thing, the non-mobile, tiny device. If i remember correctly it's being titled an 'Ultraportable PC with telephony capabilities'.
Also, my dad calls smartphones small computers that also call all the time
It's a phone first though. I got rid of my nexus 5 because the phone wouldnt work without earbuds or speakerphone. Just because it can do a million other things doesnt mean it's lost the original purpose. A swiss army knife is still a knife.
telephone - a system that converts acoustic vibrations to electrical signals in order to transmit sound, typically voices, over a distance using wire or radio.
As far as I know every cellular phone (which may also have other capabilities) still does this.
yes, no one is saying that smartphones can't make voice calls, but it really isn't their primary function. I would say it's possibly not even their secondary purpose. They are way more frequently used for internet usage and texting than anything else.
They really are just mini computers that give you the option of voice calling someone
BIRDLIFE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That depends on the user. Both my parent's iphones are primarily used for making calls.
Well, naturally some people make more calls than others and usage will vary from user to user and across demographics, but the primary purpose of a smartphone really isn't voice calling.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I overheard some kids describing a phone - "It's like an iPad, only it makes calls."
If i could run my Steam games on my phone using a wifi keyboard/mouse i seriously would. Running the games on my 4k screen (Whatever my phone has) can't be worse than playing @420p @15FPS
Yeah but you fail to recognize that your association of โdialโ with a push button phone is already outdated. Itโs a callback to when we made the adjustment from operator switchboards to automated switching systems and the rotary telephone. The โdial toneโ replaced an operator indicating that you were connected and able to use the dial on your phone to place a call.
Just like a phreaker in a movie I once used a phone that only had a 0 to push for the operator to make a collect call actually make an outside phone call by tapping the receiver hangup in a series of pushes indicating the number I wanted to call. All that practicing at home as a kid, all those phone demarcation boxes, dicking around with payphones and tone generators, actually causing damage with a brown box... and the culmination of it all was surreptitiously calling my girlfriend from county lockup. I miss the days of pulse dialing, tiny ISPs, and small dial in servers for BBSs and whatnot.
When digital switching started to be implemented everywhere we started to see a lot of old tricks stop working because the infrastructure wasn't simple anymore. Most tricks relied on audible tones, timed voltage drops, or other external means of tricking the system into providing an existing function.
he wasn't responding to dial, he was responding to the hang up the phone comment. Get your shit together
dacoobob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:39:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase "hang up" a phone is also outdated even for landline phones. It comes from the days when the earpiece literally hung on a hook on the side of the phone. For example
stilesja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when I first used a cell phone and it didn't have a dial tone. I pressed talk to get the dial tone and then I started pressing numbers. That didn't work. Had to have it explained that you entered the numbers first then pressed talk.
MrCrash ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:01:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they just took my phone away. saying "just use Skype"
fool! my desktop machine does not have speakers or a microphone.
runasaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep trying to, but being the IT guy it's usually my desk phone that's the first to go when someone breaks one and needs it replaced ASAP. We can't seem to order spares as fast as users can destroy them.
But does it hang on the wall? I think the last time I saw a phone that you could realistically say you were "hanging up" and mean it literally was in a hospital. And even that... I'm not sure that actually is where the term comes from, I think it comes from the old "candlestick" phones that used to have a stand, a microphone at the top of the stand, and a hook for a removable ear piece.
I have a wall mounted phone in one of the bathrooms at my office. The phone there gets โhung UPโ.
Damhna ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:55:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the basement of a tech museum my 10yo encountered a wall mounted pay phone and asked if I thought it was part of the exhibit. I told him...'well, check it for a dial tone and see'
Blank Stare.
The very concept of a dial tone was completely alien to him, he literally did not know how to execute the task I asked him to perform. He's never had or used a communication device that needed one.
Won't lie... I don't know the last time I used an actual phone. I don't have an office and when we call parents we are told to use our personal devices so I rarely make phone calls home. (Teacher)
I think it was over a year ago, but the last time I had to dial the phone from the office I had to hit a number and wait for the dial tone. That felt hard for me to understand momentarily.
At my last school we had a phone that you had to actually dial, like the spinny thing. I had to give up on that thing. I have trouble keeping numbers in order and after I'd spin like four numbers I'd forget which number I'd put in or question if I did them right so i had to keep starting over.
All of this makes me feel stupid. I can FaceTime someone in ten seconds. I can tell my car to call someone and it does. And you give me a real phone and I just stare at it. I haven't even had a house phone since my college apartment and that was for dial up internet because that's all we had around here... and I thought I was cool because I had the hook up for free internet then. That was in 2002.
Now I rarely talk on the phone at all. I mostly text. I just use it in the car since its hands free and if I do voice texting my phone comes up with lots of interesting words in place of what I was trying to say.
Holy shit. It never dawned on me until right now that this meant to hang the phone up literally because most phones were hung on the wall in the 80s. Mind blown...
Came here to say this. I told my three year old to 'hang up' the phone the other day and there was a lot of confusion. She is so use to video chats that she can't understand what a regular phone call is and that people can't always see what she is showing the phone. Hell, she doesn't even know cameras and phones are two different things. I gave up trying to explain and just told her to push the red button.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, this obviously doesn't apply to people who live in historical reenactments.
Edit: Anybody who takes issue with this, please go to zipwhip.com and enter promo code IHATEJOKES to get 20% off your first month of text-from-landline service to text me your complaints.
... but handsets still hang off the base on lots of modern phones... A lot of them still have the weird clip thing you can turn upside down so it can hang vertically like from a wall.
I have a theory that one of the reasons people seem so aggressive and/or easily irritable today is that they can't slam their phones after receiving bad news of any caliber. That used to be a wonderful and efficient way to channel one's anger; truly cathartic. Maybe we took it for granted.
Both of my parents' jobs require them to be "on-call" once in a while, so they still have a regular old copper-pair landline.
My Dad still sometimes calls the phone company "Southern Bell," even though they became South-Central Bell when he was in his teens. They then became BellSouth. Years after AT&T was broken up by the US government, BellSouth bought out AT&T and several former "baby bells" and renamed itself "the new AT&T." So "the new AT&T" is really just "the old Southern Bell."
Gerden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HAHA I ALWAYS CHOOSE TO SAY โEND TRANSMISSIONโ AS A HUMOROUS WAY TO END A CALL. HAHA.
acm2033 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always said "it's engaged" due to where I grew up. I'm not sure the derivation. Maybe this referred to the operator being engaged with managing other connections? Or perhaps just the recipient being engaged in another call?
Have you forgotten answering machines recording messages on casettes? Answering machines have gone the way of the VHS the same way that CDs went the way of the record. Answering machines are definitely a valid comparison.
xyifer12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:19:45 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you forgotten answering machines recording to a memory card?
It's not at all a valid comparison. The answering machine uses a different storage medium and is still around, VHS is completely replaced.
Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory (EPROM) chips had a window on them that exposed the chip to light. You exposed the chip to UV light to erase it so that it could be reprogrammed.
Now we have Electrically Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory (EEPROM), which is much faster and easier to erase and reprogram.
fanboat ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 18:47:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's Read-Only Memory, but you can write to it!
Then why do you call it 'Read-Only' Memory?
Because you can't write to it.
But you said you could.
That's what makes it so great!
PCKid11 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:56:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
((E)EP)ROM is used for situations where the data won't change much, like firmware, and flash memory is used for situations where it will change a lot, like an SSD or your phones storage
fanboat ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:03:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed, it functions as ROM with a modicum of flexibility. I've always thought it was interesting though how ROM which can be edited by internal means is a misnomer on some level; reading is not the only interaction the memory can have.
Tutush ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:16:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything that's read-only can be written to at some point. Otherwise you wouldn't want to read it.
fanboat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:31:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'at some point' though could easily be an irreversible point of manufacture, as with a DVD (no 'R'), and it's more defined in terms of the system that uses it. An N64 cartridge may have save storage, but the portion containing the game won't ever be overwritten by the N64 itself, even if some other hardware could alter it. EEPROM stands apart to a degree since it may be modified by onboard hardware through its lifetime, by the system in which it resides, as a part of that system's continuing operation.
b0mmer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:04:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I built an 8-bit CPU with a friend in college. For the BIOS we developed on a protoboard covered in dip switches. Once we had our final product we swapped it out for a PCB of a smaller form factor with the traces etched in. We recycled the old card into a program card.
b0mmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The BIOS was 10"x20" of standard 0.1" protoboard with just shy of 9400 bits of storage. 1.15KB. Could have placed more DIP switches, but needed room for address and data lines.
The entire system was built on cards inserted in a backplane.
It was about 4 feet high, 1 foot wide, and 2 feet deep.
The rest of the programming was done with EEPROM chips after we spent $350 on dip switches for one KB.
Bios rev 2 on etched PCB was 5" x 10" to fit the rails.
Blue2501 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did you make it do after you got it working?
b0mmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fanboat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, if setting a bit to be what you tell it to be isn't writing then I dunno what is. In theory you could even use the controller to program the ROM and use it as makeshift writable memory. It would just be... outside the design scope.
Schnort ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:47:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uh, PROMs are usually write one. Like literally irreversibly burning fuses. Reprogramming isn't an option.
fanboat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about the Electrically Erasable ones?
Schnort ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
those are EEPROMs, not PROMs
Usually they require an external voltage to program them, though, that isn't supplied on the target.
fanboat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any device that can update its own BIOS on an EEPROM is internally able to modify memory which has been designated Read-Only. This is usually through a reserved process or even dedicated (on-board) hardware, but it is fundamentally initiated and set by the OS. I'm just pointing out that 'Read-Only' is not a literally accurate description of memory which contains information that can technically be set by the very system which calls it ROM, even if the term is a meaningful one from an engineering standpoint. You're right that this wouldn't apply to a fixed PROM, but TriStrange only mentioned E/EPROMs.
ockpii ยท 638 points ยท Posted at 17:00:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EPROM, is that a prom for nerds?
spiral6 ยท 838 points ยท Posted at 17:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just got done with a two month training course in IT for the Air Force. I also understood it. Neat to see it again, though, now that I've seen a lot of the real world uses for it in the military.
Also a pretty rippin bass music producer. If you're into that sort of thing
Ulti ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:53:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eprom is goddamn awesome. I guess bass music producer is a good way to put it, I've always struggled to pin him into a proper genre. He's not trap, despite using a lot of the same noises... but I don't know if I'd be comfortable lumping it in with IDM either, despite it being fairly experimental.
dei8cb ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:55:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Caught him b2b with GJones; That was a killer set!
Ulti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dude, that sounds leeeegit. Last time I was paying attention and he was in town, he was opening for DJ Shadow. Pissed I missed that one D:
dei8cb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went a little out of the way to see it but totally worth it. Probably one of the better shows I've been to. I'm sure he'll be around again!
Ulti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh for sure! Now NEW LP WHEN?!
Jpot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can imagine a gathering of users on Club Penguin (R.I.P.) dressed in their finest black & white tuxedos, awkwardly avoiding chat with the opposite sex.
Sarsoar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually my IEEE chapter renamed our end of year banquet to EE Prom. We are nerds.
Funny story about EPROMS. I had a friend who was tech at a factory a couple years back. One of the machines from the late 1970's in an active production line broke down and needed some repair. The company had been around since... the 80's, and have never replaced the machinery as it was cost prohibitive to do so. So the mechanics had a big light shining into the machine as they worked. No big deal right? However, after they were finished they turned the machine on and the OS was blank. My friend cracked open the machine and saw an erasable EPROM that the label had fallen off and the big light the mechanics were using erased the program one the chip! He told owners that unless they had a copy of the binary code that was on that chip, they had a useless piece of scrap metal. They didn't have the code. The company that made the machine was by was long gone. Oh well...
rtft ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:21:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you usually would use black spray paint for these kinds of machines. Stickers came off way too easy especially if the machines generated a lot of heat or humidity.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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incer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:59:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP but I work in automation. What would happen normally is that you would replace all the control electronics with modern parts and with a modern software. Not ideal when done in an emergency, but it's a pretty standard procedure, and unless the machine had some very special functions, the software nowadays can be written much more quickly.
Actually if you've ever heard the term "burning" a disk, it's similar to that.
Each storage location of an EPROM/EEPROM fundamentally consists of a single field-effect transistor. Each transistor has a floating portion connected to its gate. Since the conduction in a transistor is based on the gate voltage, and the gate is floating, our goal is to charge that floating section in order to force each storage location to always on or always off.
Once we turn it on, it is stuck on -- the charge is put on the floating gate portion and can't go anywhere (except leakage over many years). What we can do to release that charge is shoot photons at it (put it under UV light) in the case of EPROM, or we induce an electric field which can make the electrons tunnel out of the floating node.
The reason we "can't write" to an EPROM or EEPROM once they are written is kind of like the "Pin Art" tool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_Art It's not that you "can't write", but you can only write if you can somehow overwrite what is already in the IC and it happens to coincide with what you were trying to write, if that makes sense. Like, if you push your hand through the pinart, then your face, and somehow you can see your face, then it's good. If you can't, then it's no good.
realjd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:52:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesnโt the term โburningโ come from the CD-R era? You were literally using lasers to burn data into the dye layer of a CD.
While you apparently had it reversed, this still makes it far clearer. Thank you. So you could technically still write to it, but you can't change what's already been written to without writing to it first.
As far as I remember, most writing software for programming EPROM is proprietary (so there's no easy way to just write to it, so you don't need a write-flag) or you flick a switch on the chip itself. For EPROM, you usually use a secondary programming tool to reprogram it. For EEPROM, you can do this all using a program on your PC. I don't think you could flash more than 10 times or so for a lot of the really old chips.
Edit: remembered something
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:29:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid dad had an EPROM programmer for distributing updates to some industrial equipment. And a box with a UV light that would wipe the eproms.
It was such old tech that the programmer required memory addresses c000-cfff to work, so once we got past cga to more advanced graphics cards, we had to abandon that programmer because they've shared the same memory address space.
It was cool. You could literally go in and write whatever to the EPROM.
The same tool is a chip holder. It has the program in on-board memory (I think) that it learned from a PC. After you erase the chip with UV light, put the sticker on and upload new program into the chip. The chip can then go into a two way radio, for example, and have frequencies programmed. You can also just copy a master chip exactly.
My first job out of high school, we sold the electronics for highway scales. We'd write the program in C, pop an EPROM in to the burning machine, upload it, and plug the chip right in to the board. That's how you put the program in to the machine.
If we needed to do an update, the chips came out, the little sticker came off, and they'd get slid in to this little ultraviolet light thingy for an hour. Then you started the whole burning process again.
I miss those days. That was an era where we'd actually diagnose issues on a circuit board and replace the broken components.
God I love learning what acronyms actually mean. I've seen EEPROM so many times and knew it was some kind of chip that ran code, but understanding the context and meaning is so nice. I know I could have googled it, but I think it never actually occurred to me that I cared enough to find out before.
I once had a really shitty job peeling the stickers off EPROMs and lining them up under UV light boxes to 'flash' them. Used acetone to remove the sticky bits, I think my lungs are still permanently fucked from breathing that shit.
...if it can be reprogrammed, it's not really read only, right?
No. The distinction is that the computer can't write to it or update it. That's why its read only. To write to it required removing it, erasing it, and reprogramming it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it can't be programmed it isn't too useful is it?
Amon_Rai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with EPROM chips at my job almost on the daily. Incredibly unreliable when it comes to burning the old stuff out and reloading the program onto them.
Same reason the raspberry pi's earlier models shut dowb if you took a picture with a Xenon flash. Not sure if they still do or if the shielding has improved, I know mine does.
There was a little window, to let light in. You exposed it to UV to set all the bits to 1 (sorry, previously misstated 0), then popped it into a programmer to reprogram it. If it was an EEPROM the programmer could generally erase it too (similar to modern Flash), since often even for EEPROM the circuit that required the ROM couldn't program it itself. There were also PROMs, which you could only program once, so you had to be pretty sure you wanted to do it.
Often you could also get microcontrollers with such a window, if you flashed them with a camera flash the light would crash the CPU.
No, erasing it set it to all 1's (0xFF). You "burned" the bits you wanted to be a '0'. The programming voltage was typically 12V, well beyond the limit of most TTL compatible parts.
I got down to this comment assuming that erasable programmable meant that you could write and delete things at will. Is that the case? How do you program it again when there is physical damage to the chip from burning or from UV light exposure?
Old school read only memory could be erased using UV light. You'd use a little EPROM eraser box to shine a bright light in there and it lets the stored charge dissipate. It's basically magic. They did it that way on purpose because it was cheaper long-term than using the really cheap one time programmable ROM if they planned on updating the firmware.
[deleted] ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 16:34:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:54:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Flash" memory got its name from UV erasable EPROM, not the other way around, because it was originally envisioned to serve the same kind of role. (Sticking it in portable removable memory cards did not happen until much later.)
Triple ?????
Give me ONE source to back that statement up, cuz according to Wikipedia
Flash memory (both NOR and NAND types) was invented by Fujio Masuoka while working for Toshiba circa 1980.[4][5] According to Toshiba, the name
"flash" was suggested by Masuoka's colleague, Shลji Ariizumi, because the erasure process of the memory contents reminded him of the flash of a camera.[6] Masuoka and colleagues presented the invention at the IEEE 1987 International Electron Devices Meeting (IEDM) held in San Francisco.[7]
and
Dr. Fujio Masuoka is credited with the invention of flash memory when he worked for Toshiba in the 1980s. Masuoka's colleague, Shoji Ariizumi, reportedly coined the term flash because the process of erasing all the data from a semiconductor chip reminded him of the flash of a camera.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:00:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a dumbass.
[deleted] ยท 6215 points ยท Posted at 16:50:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, TIL! My dad was an IT guy in the 70s-90s and used to have tons of these around; I recall him having some special light he used on them but figured he was just inspecting them really close. I've used "flashing the BIOS" forever but never put two and two together.
I still have a few today. A strong UV light is used to erase it quickly, but regular light will gradually corrupt data. You may leave them under sunlight for a few hours if you don't have an artificial UV light.
That's not where the term "flashing" comes from. It comes from the type of memory used - Flash. Before flash took over EPROMs and EEPROMs were used, and the term used for writing data was "burning".
linotype ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:55:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This needs to he higher. You are 100% correct.
SirDrexl ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:21:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even the term BIOS is anachronistic with today's computers, as the UEFI has technically replaced it. But even manufacturers still refer to it as a BIOS.
While EPROM is cool, it had nothing to do with this.
As another has stated, it's due to the fact the BIOS is written on flash memory. Flash memory was named so by a Toshiba engineer due to the fact that the action reminded the engineer of the flash in a camera.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:17:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In fact, the name flash doesn't even come from this at all.
According to Toshiba, the name "flash" was suggested by Masuoka's colleague, Shลji Ariizumi, because the erasure process of the memory contents reminded him of the flash of a camera. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory
OP is completely wrong!
GavinMcG ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:08:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Flashing" the bios, for the geeks among us.
My thought process:
What does being a geek have to do with biographies, and why are biographies flashed?
ieilael ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:39:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related: a "core dump" is so named because we used to use magnetic core memory, although it's been obsolete since the 70s.
spilk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is totally wrong, you are thinking of EPROMs. Flash was named for completely different reasons.
My friend, I am dubious of this, I am sorry to say. I'm familiar with UV-EPROMs; believe it or not, they are still commonly used, albeit on older hardware. I have some UV erasers we use, but we never use the term "flash" to erase them. The term we used to use was "burn" to write to one, similar to WORM CDs/CD-RWs, and DVDs. Now, later on, we certainly did start saying "flash" for some things, but as I recall, that was more with EEPROMs.
Actually, the term is actually right again, new bios ain't in eeprom, but in flash memory... So not the same flashing, but still flashing...
As to what /u/CrumpetMuncher refer to is EProm, which is Ereasable Programmable Read Only Memory. They were a chip with a window on top where you can shine UV light and it erase the state of the memory, then you can cover it up and write back data on it. Prom was write once, and EEProm was electronically ereasable PROM... It can be ereased with an electric signal.
As to now, most now use flash memory, which is now cheaper and faster with little downside (most eeprom can be erased on a per byte basis, while flash is per page, and one page can be any number of bytes, like 32 bytes. This is not an issue for the bios application since it just need to erease a big block at once anyway, but could be an issue for a programmable thermostat for example, where you write one byte for the set temp, with flash you write the whole program...)
I'm pretty sure it's called "flashing" because the BIOS is stored on flash memory. I would be interested in any source you have for your explanation, though.
Blrfl ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it isn't. You'll find the actual reason it's called flash further up in the article. (Edit: The original link went here.)
Memory that required light to erase was a specific variety of Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory or EPROM, and it took a lot more than a flash to erase it. You'd put it into a gadget called an EPROM eraser that exposed the chip to ultraviolet light for 5-10 minutes. Source: Erased a lot of EPROMs while developing firmware.
Flashing a PROM is writing the device.
BIOS was typically fusible link PROMs, not EEPROMs
p9k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fusible PROMs weren't common for BIOS anywhere because they're not that reliable over time. ROMs in consumer stuff were usually mask ROMs, OTP EPROMs, or windowed EPROMs.
Huh! All these years and I thought the flashing part was only the writing phase, not erasing the chips. I don't even thing we said "flash" back in the EPROM/PROM days. Just erase (EPROM) and program.
ImYaDawg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My last job still uses a lot of eproms for their older machines. I had never even heard of the technology before starting there...it was like stepping into a time machine with some of our projects. Basically the majority of textile plants that make yarn still run on 20 year automated systems.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who doesn't say this for automatic windows? I do still say it if the vehicle has a manual roller... but for auto-windows, I always say something like "Put the window down". It would just sound weird to say "roll down the window" if it had a button control.
Funny but I just flashed some eproms last week, and ordered some more for another project. This task is still very much alive and well among the arcade community as most 90s and older era games store their code on them.
EPROMS could be written to using a special dedicated chip programmer, EEPROMS could be erased and re-written in the circuit, an example is the updatable BiOS chip on your motherboard.
uvEPROMS, the most common type of EPROM, could be erased with UV light and then rewritten, they have a dome shaped window on the top of the chip.
I'm going from 'memory' on this so there is room for error.
I donโt know how familiar you are with computer technology already, but when I started learning computer hardware and networking it was like showing up to Hogwarts for the first time. So many advanced and incredibly complicated processes running off of soldered silicon boards and everything just kind of works. Computer and communication technology is mind boggling.
Very true, itโs all just a bunch of If/Then processes. But then you get into some crazy stuff like Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiplexing and itโs hard to connect that to the series of 1s and 0s that compose it. I realize wireless networking is itโs own beast, but it just blows my mind that a series of humans made these things possible.
A complicated procedure of Storage/memory/CPUs/GPUs processing data and displaying it onto a screen and sending that data wirelessly through different frequencies that automatically detect the best route, to a server through a series of handoffs and handshakes along a grid of signal towers, to be processed in the server as one of a billion processes per second, then sent back to a device in my hand just so that I can get BMโd by another fucking jade Druid on my lunch break. Weโve come a long way since the 70s.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I realize wireless networking is itโs own beast
Lol, I love explaining science concepts to friends and wireless algorithms are the one thing that I ever just hand wave away as being too complex to describe in conversation
nixt26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We learned how wifi works in college. It was pretty cool tech.
The one thing that I have a very hard time wrapping my head around is computers at the most basic level. The step from 1's and 0's to machine language is what really amazes me. I have played around with games such as TIS100 and Shenzhen I/O and I really struggle with it. Timing is so hard to manage, and keeping a good structure in the system memory is equally difficult.
And all that for a small indie company to continue supplying us with 1000MB updates for the most infuriating mobile-game.
The conversion of 1's and 0's to machine language is just the consequence of where the 1's and 0's go. They're meaningless until you feed them into a specific processor that's configured to do things based on which 1's and 0's you give it. That interpretation by the processor is what gives them their meaning, and that's down at the level of logic gates.
I took a digital electronics course in high school that taught me all about logic gates and really sparked my interest in electronics. That was almost 6 years ago now (damn I just realized how long ago that was, feels like yesterday) I'm now studying electrical engineering technology at university.
PyroAvok ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, not really. I have computer lessons at my school, covering programming, webdeveloping, networking, datastructures and a few more subjects. Everything stays at a very simple level, we've just started to apply some fairly basic algorithms and functions to tour programming. It's all quite easy.
It is not really that I don't understand what is happening, but the complexity is amazing to me. I was more succesful at Human Resource Machine, I completely finished that game, it did take some effort.
I am considering studying CS at university next year, but I am also interested in Electrical Engineering I am currently working on a game with automatically generated mazes as a sort-of final highschool project.
Sr_EE ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:58:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Majority of CS majors never really understand hardware, while it's not completely uncommon for EE majors to help out with coding.
Having said that, there are a ton more CS jobs out there (and a wider variety of those jobs), so if you do consider EE, make sure to learn some programming skills somewhere along the way (either serious home projects, or maybe open source projects, or take classes).
Thanks for the advice. I have definitely gotten better at coding over the past few years. I found that much of it just comes with experience. I also like to do it. The reason I don't want to get into EE is that I am not big fan of uncontrollable factors influencing the thing you make. I know that CS has a lot of job offers, but finding an job with an EE degree isn't hard either.
I was also considering going into game development, as that is apparently a separate study at universities. However, I think CS is a better choice since there is a much broader line-up of jobs available.
In high school I wanted to go for EE and CS. I just changed my major this year to Electrical Engineering Technology since it doesent require as advanced math, calculus and trig are not my friends.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who is interested in networking, I can attest to this. The basic concepts of switching and routing parcels of information from point A to point B and back in milliseconds is astounding.
Close, but NAND is just one of the 7 common gates. The NAND memory you mentioned is named because the transistors are connected in a way that resembles a NAND gate.
DanYHKim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:24:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
. . . and when all seven common gates are opened, the Four Horsemen will ride over the land!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computers are just rocks we struck with lightning and tricked into thinking.
starcrud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now there are working quantum computers. I just learned they have them working. When I was learning about computer hardware it was just a theory and theoretically it would work but no one at the time knew how to implement it.
I started a degree in computer science and consider myself to be really good with computers and understanding software. I still code from time to time in VBA and using SQL (don't know the language) Hardware is still magic to me, It baffles me that electricity stored in certain patterns translates to images on a screen and can affect the images elsewhere through this internet thing.
What is being really good with computers and understanding software? Does that mean you can fix grandma's computer and know how to install software using the "advanced" function?
It means I took classes in computer science in college, worked in a computer lab in college andcode semi-regularly for my job and for fun. Hell video games are my primary hobby. It's hard to convey my level of comfort without sounding like /r/iamverysmart but among people I know my computer knowledge and insight is a step above.
I don't know, something about the way you worded the initial post is strange, why would you say good with software over good with programing? It doesn't make sense.
I was trying to encompass all computer functions really, without being too vague.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:24:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We flew the first plane in 1903. We put a person on the moon only 66 years later. It took thousands of years of human development to get to that first flight in 1903. In 66 years we went from first flight to first man on the moon. It's crazy.
And 48 years later, here we are with fancy computers in our hands, looking at internet frogs.
stfm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:18:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two world wars helped
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:30:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing sparks technological advances like killing one another.
Rob749s ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:52:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear a lot of people say this but I think the real reason is survival. If defeating your enemy is the only way to survive, you work damn hard at it. You use every creative process you have to make sure their guys die more than your guys. That's it. Because in the end, we want to live.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"They are going to kill us, so we have to develop better weapons to kill them first."
Still the same reason.
Rob749s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:23 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily better weapons, often better defences: Moats, Castles, Bunkers, Watch Towers, Radar, Sonar, Warning systems, Missile defence etc. It just so happens that the best defence is a good offence.
The difference lies in wanting to kill and wanting to live. Two very, very different things.
When I see old computer tech that works on magnetic tape or punched paper or whatever, I struggle to believe it actually worked. Yet I have no problem appreciating that ing the tiny transistors inside the phone Iโm typing on works, despite it really understanding how.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:09:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget about "online."
It used to be a word on the power button on electronics: the switch was to activate "line" power (you know, from the powerline). When the electronics were powered up, they were "on line."
term remains accurate even if the context has changed
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The meaning has changed from powered up to connected to the internet. And while the internet does run across communication lines, I think this use makes the meaning a lot more abstract.
stfm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best part is that archaic punch tape and modern blu-rays work on the exact same principles for data storage; it's just a string of alternating 1s and 0s denoted by solid spots and holes in the medium. The only difference is that advancements in technology have allowed us to distinguish finer holes.
Camoral ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. My 1tb hard drive, which is barely 9 inches long, would have been the gargantuan just about 60 years ago. In 1956, a 5mb hard drive IBM developed weighed a literal ton. 20 tons/gb and suddenly my hard drive is 20,000 tons. That's the weight of the giant arch in St. Louis.
Same here, and I'm a professional developer. When I was a kid, punch cards were still used in some places. A PC/AT came with a 20 megabyte hard drive that was about the size of a large paperback book. By the time I was in high school, Pentiums were available, you could get gigabytes of storage for relatively cheap, and the Web was about to transform the world.
Now I have a device I carry around in my pocket that's more powerful than the first supercomputers by about 3 orders of magnitude. Meanwhile, modern supercomputers can fully simulate a rat brain, or a second or two of an entire supernova in progress.
I've followed this stuff my whole life and made it my career, and it still blows my fucking mind.
A PC/AT came with a 20 megabyte hard drive that was about the size of a large paperback book.
Ooooh! Look at Mr. Size Queen over here with his 20 megabytehalf-height drive! Some of us could only afford a 10MB FULL-HEIGHT drive that ate two 5.25" bays!
By the time I was in high school, Pentiums were available, you could get gigabytes of storage for relatively cheap, and the Web was about to transform the world.
Feh! We had the 6502, up hill, BOTH ways!
it still blows my fucking mind.
People are so jaded. They don't appreciate how far it's come in so little time.
I had a Commodore 64, it was the shit. I learned Apple Basic too so I could mess around on the school computers, but I didn't like them as much.
One time I had a teacher who didn't know jack shit about computers, and had us write a program to print our names on the screen. Most of the kids dutifully did something like '10 PRINT "Hi I'm Matt"' or whatever. I was bored off my ass so I drew my name with vector graphics instead. The teacher didn't like that and gave me a C for not following directions. Bitch.
Many, many people still alive today remember the process of patching cards. It's really not that far away. I'd love to see the look on Turing's face when you showed him a smartphone and told him "this has more power than your machines could even dream of having, and it's only been 70 years, and tbh it could have been 55 if the British hadn't decided to make computation a state secret "for national security reasons"".
eyehate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:20:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first computer was a Vic-20. I had to program my games because my mother could not afford them. My 'hard drive' was a cassette tape and my monitor was a black and white television.
toeonly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember if you ever think what you are doing on the computer is a hack it is a rock that we put lightning in and tricked into thinking.
I know how you feel. Watching the whole process of CPU production from sand to chip is amazing. I'm amazed we can manufacture something so small and powerful.
Indie_uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should see how far computers have come
JD-King ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing when you really stop to think about it. I work in IT and can transfer files between our systems at nearly half a GB a second. My first computer had a 750MB hard drive, so I'm transferring the entire contents of that drive in roughly 1.5 seconds. I remember being blown away with desktop computers that had 512MB of memory. Now, most everyone carries around a cell phone in their pocket that has at least 128 times that amount of storage, and it can be stored on a chip that's only 15x11mm. Not even 20 years ago, all of this would be completely mind boggling.
My SO read an article that states we know as much now about Computer Science now as we did about the Physical Sciences 1000 years ago. Not sure how much weight that has, but if it's anywhere near true it's still pretty amazing.
There's more computing power on your smartphone than there was on the entire planet in the 60s.
toekneeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And to think computers haven't really been around for more than 100 years! Cars have been around longer! We are like in the infant stages of computers.
ep1939 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Curiousity: if you tried to mine Bitcoin with a supercomputer from the 60s, you'd solve a block in 3 billions years.
My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, and worked with the ship's primative fire control computer. It was fascinating hearing first hand accounts of how they worked with and repaired those monstrosities, like having to basically climb inside the computer and test/replace individual transistors, whereas modern microprocessors have billions of transistors in a chip the size of a fingernail.
Production quality has fallen in terms of longevity due to current business trends of replacing hardware regularly.
My dad's old brick cell phone is two decades old and still rocking.
Mine broke in two years.
aqouta ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:21:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your dads phone doesn't have to perform modern day miracles to function or run billions of lines of code. It was little more than a radio. It's like saying writing utensils have gotten worse since the stone age because chisels are hardier than pencils.
The fact is, we can produce hardware that lasts a lot longer than it does. It's just cheaper for everyone involved to make, sell, and buy cheaper products.
My two year old vacuum cleaner wasn't somehow performing miracles that the twenty year old one that my parents had wasn't capable of when it broke.
The problem is that people don't want the compromises that buying longer lasting or more durable equipment would involve. If people truly wanted to buy a car that would last forever, it basically exists and is called the Toyota Land Cruiser. Pretty much every part in it is specced to a 300,000 mile service life. Downside is that it gets 18mpg on the highway and is the least luxurious vehicle in its price class (starts at about US$84,000).
So sure, a company could build a smartphone with a 10 year service life, but what's the point when it would result in building the bulkiest phone on the market and when the buyers would find it unbearably slow compared to newer models in 3 years.
Edit: And it is absolutely unquestionable that modern cars are better built by pretty much any conceivable metric than anything your grandparents would have had access to. A Ford in 1955 would start at about $1950 (~$18,000 in today's dollars). The 2017 equivalent gets similar horsepower from a much smaller engine and will go 100,000 miles on little more than oil changes in addition to being much safer and better handling. In 1955, getting a car to 100,000 miles in any sort of drivable condition would have been a major achievment requiring extensive mechanical intervention.
Longevity is not the only measure of production quality. Lots of that old consumer stuff was overbuilt and inefficient because we didn't have the technology to make it any other way.
Production quality has fallen in terms of longevity due to current business trends of replacing hardware regularly.
Bullshit. The average 386/486 from 20 years ago didn't last nearly as long as a modern PC.
My dad's old brick cell phone is two decades old and still rocking.
More bullshit. Analog cell phone networks haven't been a thing longer that that. Maybe it turns on and runs (doubtful since the battery surely has rotted away inside) but there's nothing for it to connect to, and is therefore NOT functional.
Mine broke in two years.
That's because you didn't take care of it. The phone I'm typing on came out four years ago, and still gets carrier updates.
Heck, a good amount of industry software is exactly the same as it was 20 years ago...you can make a good living if you learn early computer languages like COBOL, because there are Fortune-500 companies still running stuff written in it.
I'm pretty sure they were some kind of beetle, as they were too small and dark to be german roaches but I didn't try to get a close look. I was more focused on getting the laptop out of my office, holding it at arms length as I dashed outside.
Looking up different types of beetles, I'd say they looked a bit like black carpet beetles, but after the first few scuttled away I didn't see any others.
If they looked like tiny black ladybugs, probably carpet beetles. Harmless things that eat fibers, like literal carpet and old clothes, and dead hair. I had an infestation earlier this summer. Fix it by bombing my room with D. Earth then going on a work trip. Nothing since.
I do think that they were carpet beetles, glad the office didn't get infested!
anonajn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harmless... unless you have a lot of animal fiber in your wardrobe, or a lot of wool yarn. They can also cause a rash called carpet beetle dermatitis.
DaSaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be willing to bet the business trip had more to do with their disappearence than the bombing. Carpet beetles stick around exactly as long as it takes for them to exhaust their food supply, which is often a dead mouse or something. Most carpets are made from artificial fibers, thus carpets are rarely the culprit. A consistent population is usually the result of being sloppy at cleaning up the dog hair or something (if there's somewhere it can drift/be shoved into where it can accumulate).
Worst infestations is if you have something like stink bugs, your idiot pest control technician decides to bomb the walls during winter, resulting in a ton of dead bugs in the wall... a veritable feast for dermestid beetles. Proper treatment for stink bugs (and other overwintering pests) is to just put up with them until summer, do some major crack and crevice sealing work during the summer, thus preventing them from using that area the following winter. No pesticide application necessary, or even desirable... not that that will stop the average sales tech who's got a quota to fill.
I had cockroaches in my one apartment and they crawled into my electric tea kettle (where the switch is to turn it on). My next apartment the first time I turned on the kettle they came running out to avoid the heat. I immediately murdered them and the tea kettle. I ended up throwing out half of my kitchen appliances because I was paranoid the cockroaches would infest this apartment building and it would be my fault. I am forever paranoid about moving into another apartment with cockroaches.
mr_ewe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:21:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We received a new cable TV box from Charter, hooked it up, and started watching TV. A few minutes later I saw a cockroach, and without thinking much of it, killed it. A few minutes after that I see another cockroach and kill it. Now it has become a little odd, because we had lived in this house for several years and I don't remember many cockroaches, much less two at the same time. Then another. and another. and another. They were all coming from the same source; under the entertainment stand. I am snooping around trying to figure out what is happening until I get to the cable box. I pull the box out and see so many cockroaches moving around inside through the little air vent holes in the frame of the cable box. I unhook and toss the box in the front yard and kill any remaining cockroaches. I wrap the box in saran wrap (It came wrapped in saran wrap from charter) and throw it in the shipping box.
I call Charter and they were so understanding. They offered to send me a new Cable box free of charge.
I no longer have charter.
TL;DR: Cable Company sends me a roach infested cable box and they all flee once the box heated up from use.
Good lord that sounds like something directly out of a nightmare! Roaches are just about my least favorite insect to deal with. I hope your electronics remain bug free (literally and figuratively) in the future!
All I can think of are pinworms/threadworms, but those come crawling out of your butt at night, not laptop keyboards. Unless he was rubbing his asshole all over his keyboard...
Edit: I realize now you most likely meant bugs with actual legs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh they did spend a while poking fun at my reaction (bolting from the room, laptop held as far away from me as possible). But any time debugging was brought up they'd start snickering.
I looked it up and it seems to be because electrical appliances are warm, dark shelters that bugs tend to like, and some older insulated wires may be composed partially of starch they like to snack on.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it must be a southern issue as well. In Canada we donโt get some of those bugs as they do in warmer climates. The only time I saw a cockroach was when I was in the Dominican.
Lucky! I'm in the southeast US and they're inescapable.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, people that live like Oscar the grouch on meth, with garbage all over their home will probably attract roaches, but an average house wonโt see them here.
Most common bugs around here are spiders, ants in the summer, June bugs, flies, mosquitoes. Etc.
Reminds me of when my old DM had a spider living on his motherboard.
[deleted] ยท 2491 points ยท Posted at 15:16:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was about to call bullshit before i googled it. Damn.
Edit: pitchforks at the ready lads. Turns out itโs bullshit.
squigs ยท 1546 points ยท Posted at 16:54:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is some contention over whether this was the origin of the term, or whether the programmers were using the term informally already, and noted it because it amused them.
And when Grace Hopper famously caught a moth in one of her machines (the incident sometimes cited as the first use of the term 'computer bug'), she annotated the moth in her notebook as "the first actual bug caught in the machine," indicating that the term had been in use previously.
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kindall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:18:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To explain the joke: Hopper used to hand out approx. foot-long sections of wire to students and refer to them as nanoseconds. So, picoseconds would be about 1/1000 of a foot, or basically metal shavings or dust. If Hopper throws picoseconds, she's throwing sand in the Master's face.
"One of the first programmers of the Harvard Mark I computer, she was a pioneer of computer programming who invented one of the first compiler related tools. She popularized the idea of machine-independent programming languages, which led to the development of COBOL, an early high-level programming language still in use today.
Hopper had attempted to enlist in the Navy during World War II, but she was rejected by the military because she was 34 years of age and too old to enlist. She instead joined the Navy Reserves. Hopper began her computing career when she worked on the Harvard Mark I team that was led by Howard H. Aiken. In 1949, she joined the EckertโMauchly Computer Corporation and was part of the development team that designed the UNIVAC I computer in 1944. It was at EckertโMauchly that she began developing the compiler. She believed that computer code could be written in English by using a programming language that was based on English words. The compiler would convert that code into machine code that would be understood by computers. By 1952, Hopper finished her compiler, which was written for the A-0 System programming language."
and tons of other legendary stuff when I first discovered her I showed her to my gf and she was like that is like my dream of who to be.
Grace Hopper is awesome. I remember doing a research report on her in the third grade. She did a lot of cool things with programming, and is part of why I wanted to be a programmer.
Alx1775 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually got to meet her and hear her speak live, twice. I hope I still have one of her nanoseconds somewhere.
Thats awesome you got the chance to meet and see her. My mom was a programmer at Hughes in the 70s after majoring in math in college, and she was both appreciative of the women before her and helped pave the way herself for women to get into real engineering roles at companies. My mom actually stopped working there to be a stay-at-home mom for a while, and then eventually went back to school for her masters and taught math for the rest of her life.
I think my mom was the one who recommended Grace Hopper as the subject when I told her about the paper I had to do. I'm a guy but I still consider my mom and grace hopper had my greatest influences in why I'm a programmer now. I'm 30 now but I just always knew I wanted to be a programmer, from like when I was 10.
ronatola ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:18:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was a MILLION dollar question in Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
Fmeson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could just mean that people were afraid of bugs getting trapped.
"actual bug" as if she'd heard of bugs in comps already.
Fmeson ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:08:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point is those bugs could have been in references to computer bugs as we call then today OR in reference to people hypothesizing or joking that bug bugs might get into computers.
E.g. "This is the first time an actual bull has run through a china shop."
Either interpretation is potentially correct without more context.
None of which actually changes that the bug in 'programming' came from actual insects getting caught in the stacking and unstacking of punch cards, which could cover a hole and change the code.
Fishbus ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:10:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now we're getting into some real entomology etymology.
One of my history buff friends says the bug term originated in world war two. When radios were broken in a certain way, they started developing a cricket sound. He says that is where bug came from.
The first person to use the term was admiral hopper, a woman in the US navy who was a mega OG programmer
kindall ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:03:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the positive side, she was an advocate for high-level programming languages and consulted on the design of a popular language that is still in use today.
I just wanna know how that's so common. Like, what are you doing to your console to have there be an active infestation of bugs?
MrGMinor ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:15:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I found out later when I went inside his house and saw who really ran the place. Imagine you turn on the lights in the kitchen and the carpet scatters and you realize it's not a carpet.
scrivs30 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:59:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fourpuns ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:51:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember getting called out to a clients place once to look at a monitor that looked like it had hudnreds of little spiders behind the screen.
It had hundreds of little spiders under the panel. Said it looked like that when they got it which made sense because it was literally the same day they got it.
I assume in the factory a little spider egg got into the thing.
You donโt have to do much. Let your place get infested by cockroaches is step 1. And thatโs about it, roaches take stead in the console since itโs warm, and if youโre like me, it runs for hours and hours.
Any living creature small enough would find the inside of an Xbox or PS4 very cozy
This is a reason why you should keep your console on an elevated surface, and not the floor
I'm now scared to open up an Original Xbox I received while renovating a 100-year old house... the house was filled with drug-abusers... hmm, maybe i'll pay someone else to softmod it...
Computer is the job title for someone who crunches numbers repetitively or operates a manual computer. The first electrical computers that could do work without a human operator were known as Automatic Computers.
The bug story is cute, but it annoys me that this is what Grace Hopper is known for, she invented the compiler for Christ's sake. Without her, modern computing would look completely different, it's possible that we'd still be writing in machine code.
If she didn't come up with it, I'm sure someone would have done something similar, but would it be the same? Regardless, it's a huge accomplishment, and one of the most important in computer science history.
derleth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're thinking of Grace Hopper, who noted it as the "first actual bug". She wouldn't have used the word "actual" if the term wasn't already in use. So no.
semarj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So i've heard this urban legend 100 times and even as a programmer have never really questioned it...until now.
I've decided this is highly highly unlikely to be true. The first bug in computer code coincided with the first line of computer code (or punch holes or whatever) no way in hell an actual physical bug interfered with the operation of software before the stupid programmer's brain did.
I mean I haven't looked it up either, but I would assume since the computers were so large, insects would easily find their way inside the electronics.
I can't remember which one it was, either the 360 or the PS3, but they had a problem with certain spiders getting into the machines and being shipped off. I believe the main culprits were machines produced in Venezuela and I want to say they were funnel web spiders.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:07:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
360 I'm pretty sure.
dot1q ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:18:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It refers to the physical switches that would be thrown for logic. A error occured when a bug was crushed between the switch connect, preventing a connection and giving an unexpected result
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:48:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When running, they were nice, warm, dry & dark environments. Perfect for cockroaches.
Found live nymph cockroaches in a subnotebook I bought off eBay. Or RoachBay as I call it now. They were in the battery compartment and in the internals of the machine via the vents. There is now a protocol for incoming eBay shipments here that involves literal debugging.
The first computers ran off of physical punch cards. If an insect got smushed into a card deck (100s, 1000s of individual cards) and blocked the punch code, the program failed to compile.
arkhound ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, they'd crawl in and short the electronics.
Gnivil ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:32:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just googled it, apparently the first time that it could be considered modern usage was in the 1800s to refer to faults in the factory machines, and it comes from the middle English term bugge which is basically a demon. So it was actually saying that the machine was possessed (though most likely wasn't to be taken literally even then).
In 1946, when Hopper was released from active duty, she joined the Harvard Faculty at the Computation Laboratory where she continued her work on the Mark II and Mark III. Operators traced an error in the Mark II to a moth trapped in a relay, coining the term bug. This bug was carefully removed and taped to the log book. Stemming from the first bug, today we call errors or glitches in a program a bug.
I think it was a million dollar question on "Who wants to be a millionaire" .. but I'm not googling it.
staviq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's neither bullshit nor true, it's just that the first ever written mention of a "bug" in a software was actually a literal bug splashed on a data tape. It's unclear if the term was used before, or if someone dug up this note years later and decided it was funny and continued to use this term and it just caught on.
ktappe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first $1 million given away on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" was on this topic. It asked what type of bug the first computer bug was.
Spoiler: It was a moth.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somewhat - it's certainly true that "bugs in the machine" was used to literally mean insects that had jammed up some precise mechanism causing it to operate incorrectly.
The dispute is the origin of the term, it's unclear if that's the origin of the term of just an inside joke relating to some other incident.
derleth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:10:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's sort of a fable.
A computer scientist named Grace Hopper once famously discovered that a computer fault was due to a moth in the machine. Here is a picture of an except from her report:
Twas a pun, and for it to be a pun, the term "bug" must have already been floating around at the time, basically meaning "something going wrong." Think of the phrase "bugging out" - same etymology.
And generally, real bugs were not the cause of software bugs. Hence "first actual case."
In truth nobody knows where the term "bug" came from, but Grace Hopper cemented it in history.
derleth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:41:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that the term is older, like they used to call little mechanical problems bugs since the 19th century
agm66 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:01:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. "Bug" was used in the sense we mean today by Thomas Edison, and probably before him. Had nothing to do with bugs in the insect sense (or at least there's no evidence of it). When Grace Hopper called a moth found in a relay a "bug" in the system, she was making a joke - after a lifetime of dealing with bugs in electronic equipment and early computers, she (well, a co-worker, really) had finally found a real one.
I'm not sure what to make of this. Edison described problems in development of a product as "bugs" 50 years before computers, but then there's the actual computer bug tale.
wardrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't this just a one-off? Like the very first bug was caused by a moth or something like that? So basically every glitch thereafter was just referred to as a "bug"?
Well, there were lots of bugs, but we got our finest frogs to scour the mainframe and clean things up, no more bugs.... However, now we have a frog problem.
bhardin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because older programmers never had problems in their code. It was perfect when it โshippedโ.
Oh man, do I have a relevant story. In my high school computer engineering class, one kid brought in his computer to work on it with the tools we had. He started out by using compressed air to blow it out.
So many cockroaches came out of that power supply. Like, tons of fucking roaches. It was like a horror movie, but worse because I was there.
The school ended up having to call an exterminator, and needless to say that kid wasn't allowed to bring in anything but his school supplies. He was disgusting anyway, so I shouldn't have been that surprised.
Spudd86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:37:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term came first, that's why the bug is labeled some thing like 'First case of an actual bug in the machine' that label wouldnlt make sense uf the term 'bug' for an error didn't already exist.
Not all bugs used to be literal bugs โ itโs not like programmers didnโt make mistakes back then. It just happened one time that a literal bug was causing a computer to malfunction, and the term caught on.
Well, no, since the dawn of time there has been shitty, bud-riddled code, they just didn't used to refer to errors as bugs. You can't say it "used to be literal bugs" that's misleading on many levels. You're simply referring to a story where Grace Hopper found an actual bug in her computer and that's supposedly how the term was coined. Even that's debatable.
spingus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While she was working on a Mark II Computer at a US Navy research lab in Dahlgren, Virginia in 1947, her associates discovered a moth that was stuck in a relay; the moth impeded the operation of the relay. While neither Hopper nor her crew mentioned the phrase "debugging" in their logs, the case was held as an instance of literal "debugging." For many years, the term bug had been in use in engineering.[35][36] The remains of the moth can be found in the group's log book at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History in Washington, D.C.[37]
Probably not, actually. Consider Grace Hopper's famous "first actual case of bug being found (moth in relay)" from 1947. The fact that she titled the log entry the way she did and physically taped the moth into her journal for comedic effect is strongly suggestive that researchers were already using the term "bug" metaphorically.
Specifically, it originated from a moth that crawled into an engine compartment.
dragondm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term actually predates computers. Telegraph operators used to attribute connection issues to insects on the wires, thus "bugs" became a term for a electrical glitch you cannot find easily. It became indelibly attached to computers when someone actually found a moth in a relay of an early computer. (the logbook note stated "First case of a bug actually being found")
It's funny that I knew this one - we did "load tests" of some micro controller bullshit I was programming in university and the Lab Instructor told us that, and of course, mine started smoking (in fairness, it was cause we put it in some way not safe housing but it was hot as a mother fucker)
Indie_uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly when you refer to bad code as a โliteral dumpster fireโ this goes back to the 30s when code was often used to fuel fires in winter due to the materials programs were stored on
Sinjun13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, "smoke test", a final test to make sure everything works under a full load, was initially literal - making sure the computer didn't catch fire when running at full capacity.
Learned about this in my computer science class. When digital logic was expressed through vacuum tubes, bugs would find their way into the tubes, causing issues for the person(s) operating the computer
Zeruvi ยท 407 points ยท Posted at 15:22:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Original bugs were literal bugs shorting out a massive board or getting smeared on the tape/card
namakius ยท 389 points ยท Posted at 15:36:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tl;dr
Early engineers were able to come up with excuses for why their stuff broke much easier. :p
bizitmap ยท 325 points ยท Posted at 16:32:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God I can only imagine how elated people were when anything worked at all during the earliest computer era
Like I just about shit my pants with glee when my "hello world" python project doesn't throw an error, can you imagine when you've made something the size of a building out of vaccuum tubes and hope and it actually works?
namakius ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 17:28:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It baffles me to this day still. It's crazy to think how some people were able to build computers. They had all these crazy parts and tubes back then. And read paper for input. Just incredible.
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jwm3 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:57:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were modified looms. There were already industrial looms that used rolls of paper with punches in them to control the pattern stitched. They used the same tech for early computers.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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namakius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean computer today are all still run on boolean logic.
What gets me is how they managed to run th original ones and just make all that work. It's crazy. I'm sure if I was in the presence of a working original room sized computer i could get a better understanding.
It's hars to explain the puzzling nature of it I guess. Haha
Now imagine you had to punch a set of cards correctly and you had a special time allocated for your small experiment and that two or three other people were involved while you watched your program failed miserably, with your colleagues waiting for their turn and thinking how you waste everybody's time.
AntmanIV ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:06:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse if you didn't number your cards and dropped the stack...
I'll tell you, once in a while, you run into errors that aren't you, and you pull your hair out. Imagine if your processor couldn't do division properly and gave you the wrong result, you relied on that, and who would believe you that Intel was to blame when your program gave the wrong answer?
mxzf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That happens even now. You start using something from a library and wonder why on earth this weird bug is happening and it turns out that the library is implemented wrong.
I briefly worked with a team developing a tunable terahertz source. When things go right you're almost so shocked you assume your instruments must be having problems.
smrtbomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First message on Arpanet (precursor to the internet) actually didn't work the first time. It crashed mid message.
kindall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And trying to figure out which vacuum tube has gone on the fritz when the machine's not working right? But at least the tubes were more reliable than the mechanical relays used previously.
I'm a graduate student doing analog and mixed signal IC design.
That still happens. We put in months or a year of research, circuit design, and layout, and then three to eight months later get this tiny 1-5mm2 chip back from the fab and it... works. It does things.
This means there was a phase of time where people referred to a computer programming problem as a 'bug' and the person listening probably thought it was a physical bug problem rather than an error in the coding, right?
slnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goes back to when a computer was basically a gym hall filled with electron tubes which occasionally had moths and shit end up inside them to block the flow.
actually the original supposed case dates back before these inputs, which existed in the world of logic boards and microprocessors. The original bugs dated back to WWII or before, when the unit used for a processor's "switch" was a cathode ray tube. These light-based systems were larger than a lightbulb, and attracted moths. Moths in a tube caused the tube to fire inappropriately, resulting in abberant behavior of the computer.
flycast ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:26:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhh.....
What about a patch on fabric? I think people have been doing that a little longer.
Thank you. Everybody lists the punch tape as "the origin" because of that conveniently sharable text/image, which obviously neglects to consider where that industry got it from - fabric and sewing.
The punch tape thing was how we got from the "mending clothes" definition to the "fixing computer clothes" definition. Winding something up was a thing before VHS tapes and cassettes, but those are why the term is synonymous with going backwards in a recording
derleth ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:41:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's also "drive" as a circuit or unit that drives and controls a motor (for speed, torque, load regulation, etc.). A solid-state drive could also be a transistor-based motor drive, as opposed to tube and relay-based one. =P
uzrbin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:23:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think people were patching clothing before patching punch cards.
Belgand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a similar vein, a "patch" in regards to synthesizers and music production used to refer to the need to use short cables, i.e. "patch cables", to connect various modules. A particular setting would have a "patch diagram" prepared for it.
My grandma worked with punched-tape computers for 24 years. Now we're attempting to show her how to use a tablet. It's a challenge, but as long as she can get to her bridge game on it, she's happy.
The actual origin is a fabric patch, sewn over a hole or tear to repair the item. Punch tape patches draw their usage from the fabric term. In looking at how we use the terms patch or to patch, you can see how it went from a kind of colloquialism into regular and established usage as technology developed. From patching fabric to patching a call through, to patching punch tape corrections, to patching with computer code. To find "the origin", you merely go back to the chronological order of the technologies in question - the definition has always been the same.
Wizards were originally expert computer users (people) who could install software or help you with your installation. Now they are software assistants (programs) to help with initial tasks of setting something up.
ryanloh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, despite knowing about the history of computing with Punch cards, I never put it together that patches and bugs were literal patches and bugs.
gmnitsua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps the Qwerty arrangement of letters on a keyboard also counts for this. The arrangement was designed to reduce the likelihood that a typerwriter would jam.
I used to work in QA and every morning weโd do a โsmoke testโ to make sure nothing was broken which originates from...testing to see if anything smoked when you turned it on.
So back then, they'd release patches to software but also holes.
I wish hotfix had as cool an origin.
crimeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's also just a metaphor for patching anything being an ad hoc fix after release. Jeans, upholstery, holes in a boat. Etc. Doesn't seem archaic yet in that sense.
The first synthesizers were all wall-sized arrays, and a sound signal had to be routed with patch cables through a collection of modules.
Compact synths followed with fixed signal paths inside the chassis of the instrument, and the controls on top. Microprocessors came along and sound settings could be stored instead of dialed in manually. Eventually clips of audio were integrated as sources of sound, and new synthesis techniques were developed.
Computing power increased, memory got cheap, and now everything is fully digital --manipulation of audio clips, virtual oscillators, multiple sound engines, etc. -- yet many people still refer to a single synth sound as a "patch".
Iโve heard Apache (computer term) come from โa patch.โ Then again, Iโve also heard that strangers are just friends you havenโt met yet...so always get into their windowless van.
kasahito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother used to program (is that right? Program?) punch tape for my dad's CNC machines back in the late 80's and 90's
I always thought it had to do with how people would patch their clothes to fix them (my grandmother did this for us, a lot), or how patchwork quilts were made (she, and my great grandmother also did these).
BobT21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, have done this.
Source: 73 y.o. First computer I used was a PDP-8, tape punch on ASR-33 teletype user interface.
In that vein, is there any precedent for something like leaving blank space, say after branches or subroutine returns, to allow for adding new instructions in case errors are discovered in a program?
skeddles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but the word patch still means to fix a weak spot which still accurately describes what you're doing...
I๏ธ work in network informatics and deal with patch panels all day. Itโs a fancy way of saying I๏ธ plug in cat 6 cables all day hahaha
devicer2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:46:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"patch" in another sense has an old origin too - synth patches! Most often nowadays they'll be a group of settings in a file for a soft synth but the origin is in telephone exchanges, then used for plugged modular synths and other audio gear, then we came to the current usage where a synth patch means the entire necessary settings for reproducing a particular sound and often used to mean the sound itself e.g- "I really like the patch used for the pads".
[Edit] I forgot about "patch me through" as well - still occasionally used but totally antiquated.
In a similar vein, "coredump" used to refer to the machine literally dropping the magnetic cores that contained the in-memory state of the program after a crash
p9k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
Core memory is nonvolatile unlike RAM, so when your program crashes and you reset the computer, the core still has the contents of your program and data just before the crash. This is helpful when debugging.
A core dump is a copy made of the core to disk or tape so you could return the (back in the day) expensive machine to service and look through the crash on your own time. The concept is kept around because of RAM volatility and modern OSes tendency to free program memory after a crash.
To clarify for everyone: dumb was a synonym for mute; idiot, imbecile, and moron were terms used to describe one's mental capacity. A moron (IQ 51-70) was more mentally capable than an imbecile, and an idiot was the least so (IQ 0-25).
Based on the definition of IQ, there are an expected ~2000 people in the entire world with IQ 25 or lower, and an expected ~0.09 people with IQ 0 or lower.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:12:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are those people even like? Can they communicate?
Iโm a disability carer and I work with some clients who, while physically are fine, canโt figure out how to dress them self, donโt have any reading comprehension, donโt know what day it is nor do they have any concept of time.
Edit: they can communicate basic things such as if they need to go to the toilet or need help with something. They only really say single words.
Yeah, I mean, this is from a time when psychology was barbaric as fuck, people thought masturbation could be "cured" through a diet of corn flakes or graham crackers, and IQ was even more useless as a metric than it is today.
Echo127 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you implying that 0 isn't the bottom of the scale?
Yes. IQ is defined to be normally distributed with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. If you were ~7 or more standard deviations below average, you'd have an IQ below zero.
There are not enough people in the world for anybody to be 7 standard deviations in either direction though. But with a big enough population it could theoretically happen.
cmn3y0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The IQ distribution is sort of bimodal though, specifically because of mental disabilities. So there should be more than that.
Well, yeah. But that mean/standard deviation model doesn't take pathalogical conditions into account, and that far out on the bell curve actual numbers will vary wildly.
It makes you very unintelligent. I don't think anyone has ever gotten an IQ score that low, though, because they're too incapacitated to even take an IQ test.
Well, if there were 70 billion people in the world, the least smart one would have an IQ of around 0 by definition. In practice the IQ scale becomes useless long before then.
In theory (because that's the only way this whole thing works), IQ is a normal distribution defined to have a mean of 100 and SD of 15, right? Then it should definitely be possible, just very unlikely, to have an IQ of less than 0 or (in theory) any arbitrary number. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
[deleted] ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 19:59:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Retarded actually came into use as a more politically correct word to use instead of moron or imbecile or idiot. Now, it too, is considered politically incorrect.
The word "special" is already a derogatory term where I'm from. My ex-girlfriend's sister's reaction to seeing Futurama for the first time was "Wow...this show looks really...special."
Schnort ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:53:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DaSaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's totally gay.
danbfree ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:01:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet, mental retardation is the actual medical term used now (Source: I'm a medical admin)... Sure there is developmental disabled, but that could refer to other conditions as well, so retardation is retardation, officially in medical terms.
cobysev ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:31:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when "mentally challenged" was the politically correct term to replace "retarded." Now that, too, is no longer politically correct.
No matter what word you use, it's overuse in the negative will eventually turn it into a bad word.
DaSaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it was, it only was in the cousinfuckin backcountry or something. I'd never heard it before it emerged on the Internet. I was familiar with the word "cuckold", which was some archaeic word I might see in Shakespeare or something.
That one's actually via Steve Bannon and Breitbart, who used it in reference to the neo-Nazi novel The Camp of the Saints which used it as another way of saying "race traitor" (its literal meaning is something along the lines of "someone who gets off watching their country be raped by nonwhite immigration"). So yeah, whenever you see someone shouting "cuck," that is what they really mean by it; it's neo-Nazi language through and through.
Bullshit, itโs short for cuckold.
noun (archaic): The husband of an adulteress, often regarded as an object of derision.
verb: (of a man) make (another man) a cuckold by having a sexual relationship with his wife.
Take from Wikipedia:
โThe word cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird, alluding to its habit of laying its eggs in other birds' nests. The association is common in medieval folklore, literature, and iconography.
English usage first appears about 1250 in the satirical and polemical poem "The Owl and the Nightingale" (l. 1544). The term was clearly regarded as embarrassingly direct, as evident in John Lydgate's "Fall of Princes" (c. 1440). In the late 14th century, the term also appeared in Geoffrey Chaucer's "The Miller's Tale". Shakespeare's poetry often referred to cuckolds, with several of his characters suspecting they had become one.
One often-overlooked subtlety of the word is that it implies that the husband is deceived, that he is unaware of his wife's unfaithfulness and may not know until the arrival or growth of a child plainly not his (as with cuckoo birds).โ
Um... It's only neo Nazi language in that context. There's a whole demographic of people who derive actual sexual pleasure from the humiliation of watching their partner with another person. Like... Calling an actual cuckold a cuckold would neither be Nazi nor an insult.
But in the context of its modern usage as a generic insult it is restricted solely to neo-Nazis and neo-Nazi adjacent groups, with the extremely rare exception of someone turning it back on them with a more traditional meaning.
If that's even true, I guarantee you 99.9% of the autists using "cuck" on the internet have no clue.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 03:09:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything is Neo Nazi language. Also you're wrong. It started becoming internet slang in 2014 at the beginning of the Gamergate debacle, with 4chan using it to describe Erin Gjoni
And steven bannon started gamergate. Sooooooo same thing basically.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 04:38:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bannon had nothing to do with Gamergate. It was a grass roots movement out of the gaming community. Unless the right wing Steve Bannon convinced several left wing video gaming publications to collude for several years beforehand.
Look up bannons history with world of warcraft and his comments on gamer culture in general. And look what website broke the most gamergate news. Get back to me.
I'm autistic. I'm not a footnote for someone else's insult directed at someone else.
Way I see it, I'm a pretty well balanced and reasonable person, so if someone is getting 'insulted' as being similar to me, it probably isn't very effective. Might as well just denigrate them by calling them 'galactic overlord' or something. Can be good or bad, depending on how much of a twat this overlord is. He'd be rich and powerful, though, so maybe that's a compliment in the end?
In other words, if you get all insulted and butthurt that someone called you autistic, just remember me and realise that you're offended at being compared to me. I figure the only person actively insulting me in that scenario is you. Probably simpler to just be like 'lol is that your best insult?' and then proceed to destroy the fucker.
Yeah, but I find the best way to fight back is to educate.
'umm you know a lot of autistic people are highly intelligent, don't you? Oh.. you don't? Well you know what kind of person doesn't know what they're talking about don't you? Yes, that's right, fucknuts, nobody. Nobody but you could be so impressively stupid. I hope I'm not using to many long words for you'
Etc, etc... The aim isn't to belittle, as much as it is to highlight the lack of original, or even any, thought in their insult. Though it definitely doesn't hurt to throw in just enough belittling to really discourage further comebacks.
...can you tell I got bullied a lot in school and learned a skill I call 'insult chess'?
IIRC, the origin of that is a 4chan thread making fun of a tumblr thread where a few people(kids most likely) were self diagnosing themselves as autistic off some online test or something.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:30:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intelligence-based insults are always going to be like that. How dumb does someone have to be before they stop being a "fucking idiot" and instead are "mentally challenged" and you shouldn't make fun of them for that?
Its the absolute most apt word to use, and is used in a million other contexts to describe something that is slowed. It shouldn't be offensive at all.
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:25:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, none of these terms should be, in a perfect world. But, people co opt them to use as insults so we change the terminology every once in awhile. It's really treating a symptom instead of the problem, but the problem is that people are dicks, so, y'know.
this is the most concise and realistic explanation of the euphemism treadmill I've read, and I am someone who spends entirely too much time on the internet.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
telling someone that they have an inadequate level of intelligence is a bit wordy and not very impactful for an insult though.
Echo127 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:23:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I try to tell people who get hung up on the word. I'm told "disabled" is the proper term now, but "mentally disabled" implies that you are entirely incapable of processing thoughts while "mentally retarded" implies that your mental capacities are merely hindered. Or, more accurately...retarded. Now you tell me which of those two definitions sounds worse.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:02:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point but connotation is a thing, and retarded has a negative connotation now.
snopro ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 20:39:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking autocorrect literally makes me look like an idiot by fixing properly used words...
The other day it corrected "Ill pull out my SSD and drop in an NVME drive" to "I'll pull out my ass and drop in a penis drive" to my fellow sysadmin...
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:25:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like calling things retarded, but I also don't like making fun of autism. It's just as bad. I really can't stand those that take issue with one thing, but are totally apathetic about the other.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like "autistic" (and even "sperg") as an insult tends to have a more specific connotation than "retarded", which is more or less synonymous with "dumb". It's more specific to lack of social awareness and general social ineptitude and other stereotypical autism traits, rather than regular ol' stupidity, probably because of the stereotype that many autistic people are actually savants with no social skills (in reality this only applies to a very, very small percentage).
I find that having my name used as an insult is more hurtful than anything else they could come up with. Being told that your entire identity is a bad thing is a little harder to fix than an individual attribute.
Das_Mojo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I called my journeyman a discombobulated nincompoop the other day
It's a little more complicated than that. Economically, it's a terrible deal paying 6 figures per person per year, but how do you put a price on the peace of mind that comes with knowing everybody in our society will be treated well no matter their circumstance? I wouldn't want to live in a country that murders its own citizens when they stop being useful and the people who are most capable of emigrating (doctors, engineers, etc.) are the ones you most want to keep.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:54:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which is ironic, nobody uses retard to describe the differently abled. We use it exclusively as an insult.We god damn know its offensive janet, that's why we use the word.
Interesting. Reminds me of the spastic society here in the UK. They renamed themselves Scope since spastic became a playground insult for being disabled.
Always reminds me of Buck v. Bell , a Supreme Court case upholding sterilization of mentally handicapped people in which Justice Holmes states, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough."
Dumb is still a synonym for mute, but its usage in such a manner is infrequent; you will still hear people talk about being struck dumb at times, or someone being deaf and dumb. That said, mute tends to be used instead of dumb a lot more often.
Not sure how this fits in, but I have lots of old football (soccer) programmes from the 30s-50s and many of them have adverts for giving money to help โthe spasticsโ. Obviously not okay now but perfectly acceptable then apparently.
Lazek ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:06:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this vein, if someone is "struck dumb" it means they were made speechless, not that they were somehow stupider.
13al42mo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:05:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly, the word idiot is derived from ancient Greek where it means expert.
Similarly, Nimrod was a mighty hunter from the bible but because of Bugs Bunny calling Elmer Fudd 'Nimrod' ironically now most people just use it to mean a dumb or foolish person.
If I remember, he was alive in the period just after the flood when humans were told to scatter and refill the earth, and then he immediately built the Tower of Babel, concentrating as many people into as narrow a place as possible. So that was pretty dumb.
Nimrod was also a God or some sort of figure in most Semitic religions. I think it was the Babylonians who worshipped him.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:26:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Erm... Not so sure about that, bud..
idiot
ORIGIN Middle English (denoting a person of low intelligence): via Old French from Latin idiota โignorant person,โ from Greek idiลtฤs โprivate person, layman, ignorant person,โ from idios โown, private.โ
Snax63 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:31:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't right actually. The Greek word "Idiotes", from which idiot derives, meant a person who doesn't contribute to society and kept to themselves. Like a "loner".
Coincidentally, by ancient Greek terms, I'm a fucking idiot.
Nope. Idiot meant anybody who was not allowed to vote. In that time, that would have included slaves, all women, people who don't have citizenship in general..
coffee_o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it mostly referred to those who could but didn't.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
coffee_o ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're correct that it comes from ancient Greek, but what it originally meant was a person who didn't participate in Athenian democracy by attending the Assembly (plural form, the only one I know, idiotes). So it's always been derogatory.
gorcorps ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh... I've always felt the word "imbecile" was more insulting than "idiot". Now I just feel dumb...
Serious question: can I call somebody stupid without it being a specific IQ range? I certainly don't want to offend someone by calling them an imbecile if they're really only a moron, so to be safe I'm assuming I can just call them "stupid" until their test results get back and I know for sure.
AEsirTro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely is. My dad always used to make fun of me and call me an Autist.
But we're both very likely on the spectrum, so I guess it didn't count. (I pitched the idea of having Asperger's to my shrink when I was 12 and she pretty much said, yeah but you're so high functioning it's not worth testing)
coffee_o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It basically is now, which is pretty gross IMO.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, TIL.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phrenology, eugenics, transorbital lobotomy... there was a lot of terrible shit happening then, yeah.
AEsirTro ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:18:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah considering the time and a lack of social security or general care I can't completely disagree with sterilisation being a bad thing. Having two mentally handicapped people fucking like rabbits and creating 10 kids they can't possibly care for may be a worse situation.
up-quark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I thought idiot originally referred to someone who was uneducated. Not necessarily low IQ, just someone who hadnโt been taught how to do something.
If someone figured out their own way of doing something, then it would be โidiosyncraticโ.
Yeah i remember one of our teachers in middle school called hellen keller dumb, and everyone got mad at her, she explaned it ment mute but i think the people didnt believe her.
Aqua783 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boy I have a hatred for the word dumb ever since my grade 6 teacher told me to go get the dictionary to look up what the word meant. Apparently I used it wrong and telling her I thought it meant stupid wasnโt enough. She got her satisfaction when the first definition was mute and the second was stupid. Spiteful bitch.
Mildly unrelated but Nimrod was originally a biblical Hunter. It came to become synonymous with idiot because Bugs Bunny was picking on Elmer Fudd, using the name as if it were synonymous with the word idiot.
I remember learning about Helen Keller when I was in 2nd grade ('92) and our teacher taught us that she was blind deaf and dumb. And I remember being surprised that being a mute was called dumb. However I never heard it used again, not even when Helen Keller came up a few times years later. My teacher must have been pretty old fashioned I'm assuming.
Dumb was a little different as I learned it. A mute person was biologically unequipped with the required apparatus for speech, and couldnโt produce the sounds needed to talk. A person who is Dumb is biologically capable of speech, but does not know a single language and is thus incapable of doing so for a different reason than the mute.
I thought an "idiot" was someone who didn't vote in elections in antiquity.
[deleted] ยท 814 points ยท Posted at 19:10:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 390 points ยท Posted at 20:29:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mental Retardation already has its name changed a couple years ago. I don't think intellectual disability, the new name, will become a slur, but autistic already has begun to become one in the past couple years.
"Intellectually disabled" has too many syllables and contains the word Intellectually which sounds a bit too nice, but I could potentially see "disabled" becoming the new "retarded" given enough time.
Can confirm, I refer to someone as disabled if they do something REALLY unintelligent and dangerous, particularly if it's likely to hurt others. I'm careful with its frequency though, and I don't use it around kids.
I mean, "disabled" also refers to people of perfectly normal intelligence who are in wheelchairs or blind or have cancer, so that's an even shittier thing to say than normal slurs.
Yeah, and as I said with the other response, I'm taking the other such implications into consideration now as it is a fair point to make, and as I have no justification for it.
Well, in trying to respond to you I have little to excuse it's use other than its more impactful and unexpected than retard or other such terms, so I am certainly reconsidering it's use.
Why not just say "hard of thinking"? The point is not to be nasty to people, not necessarily to use some precise diagnosis, one could use any term which isn't too loaded with venom or contempt.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:02:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:15:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might as well call her retarded, because its the same damn thing.
People have been calling each-other stupid probably since the dawn of man. The treadmill effect is pretty dumb.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when "gay" was commonly used as a term for something that's bad or stupid. While I was in full support of the push to end that use of the word, I didn't really understand then how it felt to have something that describes you used like that. People would give examples like "What if instead of gay it was your name being used that way," but that doesn't do the feeling justice at all.
Now people are starting to use autistic as an insult. It's a lot more jarring than I thought it would be. Takes me totally out of whatever I'm watching/reading/listening to. I'll get to the end of something and all I can think of is how disheartening it is to see an opinion or person I respected followed by an insult like that.
Actually my Ex-wife is a Special Education Teacher for lower functioning students. And they really are starting to keep ahead of the curve on this. What is acceptable to call the students seems to change about every 2 years. I would just get used to the new term and she would say something like "We don't use that term anymore" in a tone as if I being racist. Last I heard they were at "Intellectually challenged"
CWM_93 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:20:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was at school (5-10 year ago), 'special needs', 'special', and 'spesh' were commonly used as insults.
Autistic will remain an insult for the same reason everything on the internet is cancer. It's a long lasting, common(as in there's a good chance you know someone autistic), and awful thing.
Hi I'm autistic and I don't need "lifelong care" thank you very much (and I also use autism as an insult)
xyifer12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:35 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your situation isn't the same as every other autistic person and that does nothing to my argument.
Dolthra ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:48:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't need "lifelong care"
I'm sure your general practitioner disagrees.
Edit: Jesus Christ this was simply supposed to be a joke about how your general practitioner wants you to come in every year, regardless of if you have autism or not.
Wow you're an asshole. So every single autistic person ever needs to be looked after like a 5 year old? Even if they're high functioning (like me and a million other people)? Get fucked
Holy shit thank you random stranger on the internet. You clearly know what's best for them and they should totally stop being a functioning, successful adult. Because anything you are diagnosed with should always define and hinder you! //s
The problem is that autism is also concurrent with intellectual/developmental problems. My sister-in-law, despite always being referred to as "autistic" by her family, was actually described as "mental retardation with autistic tendencies" in her childhood records that I stumbled across while cleaning out her mother's house.
There are different levels of cancer too, same with AIDS. There's plenty of people who have lived normal lives with both of those just like with autism. However, there are also people with all three where it's completely debilitating and they will never live a normal life.
Except autism is not a disease, its part of who they are as a person. The person i responded to made it seem like every single person with autism require lifelong care, i specified that its not true in every case
No one said autism was a disease, and cancer can sometimes be cured with a quick and simple surgery and thus be less debilitating than even mild autism. I get that you don't like the analogy, but that doesn't make it inaccurate.
But when people use it as an insult, they mean those lower on the spectrum who are unable to function independently, with a lot of stress on acting inappropriately towards other people.
xyifer12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:20 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it does, not everyone with autism can take care of themselves.
Cancer has come a long way from the absolute death sentence it was even 10 years ago, which may help it's use as an insult. Not dying to it means you suffer longer. But autism is an awful affliction to have and I guarantee that any austistic person would be glad to be rid of the disorder.
But autism is an awful affliction to have and I guarantee that any austistic person would be glad to be rid of the disorder.
Nah, I work with and know many aspies and autists. They dont consider their affliction a disability, they just see the world differently. Getting 'rid of the disorder' would be getting rid of themselves and who they are- they dont want that.
Now, severely autistic selfharming and completely care-reliant population probably falls under your claim, but definitely not the entire spectrum
I've got strong feelings on this horseshit, do you wanna know what the worst time for me and the effects of my autism was? It was during the time I had these 'carers' during primary school and early highschool, they soften your mind and make you willing to accept mediocrity. Every time someone made a joke about my autism they were the ones that made me retreat further inward by consoling me with "I't's okay, you're perfect and special just the way you are" all the while my mental age is stagnating, and when it all just suddenly stopped at 14 I was left floundering and had to pick up the pieces myself and quite frankly I'm thankful for it because far too many have it stop in their mid twenties and they're stunted for ever. I just wish it had never started. So I'm suspicious of your claim that those autists saying they don't consider it a disability, and I've got a strong feeling they're just parroting their carers. I for one would love to be rid of it, and I'm actively trying to do so. I've even made progress. Crazy the things you can do when you aren't stagnating and allowing yourself to be treated like a child.
I wasnt a "carer" in the medical sense. I was a camp inclusion counselor and eventually the program director for the integration summer camps at the local Y (we served five towns for summer camps).
My experience with children with special needs started when I was 15yo, I was assigned to help a 6yo nonverbal boy with Downs Syndrome have a successful camp experience. My role varied week to week and I was paired up with many different children with many different challenges. Over the next three years it simply came to be that I had a knack for pairing up with children with autism and really helping them have meaningful experiences as campers.
My "methods" (really, just kind of my personality) revolved around genuinely treating my 'little friends' as regularly as possible. I didnt change the inflection of my voice, I didnt coddle them (beyond being aware of triggers and sensory input they were specifically averse to), and I always spurred organic interactions from the other campers.
Often the question came up what was "wrong" with the kids I was paired with, and I'd typically answer that there was nothing wrong about them and that if they pay attention everyone is a bit different and wants the same thing, to make friends and have fun.
The only time I ever disproportionately defended my campers was against a CIT who called them out in front of the group and said something like "theyre not even really our camper" - and I dragged her to the office and set the director on her.
If anything, I had such success in creating and growing the program because I pushed our campers to excel and positioned them towards things they enjoyed & were good at.
I've worked and been responsible for the full spectrum, and many other challenges, and I did not mean to imply the majority or even a large minority of those on the spectrum would not be rid of it given the chance. My comment was mainly to explain that the closer you get towards the higher functioning end, the less absolute the claim becomes. I have at least two friends with aspergers who have made very strong arguements that they dont want to be "cured"
See, that's my problem. There is something wrong with them, if there wasn't they wouldn't need help.
And of course you didn't want to imply they want to get rid of it, because an implication would mean you didn't outright say it thusly
"Nah, I work with and know many aspies and autists. They dont consider their affliction a disability, they just see the world differently. Getting 'rid of the disorder' would be getting rid of themselves and who they are- they dont want that."
And those aspie friends of yours are the same damn problem, anyone who has had to work against the problem themselves and hasn't been surrounded by enablers (y'know, actually living like everyone else rather than having the illusion of it) hates it. You have to do the same things everyone else has but you work at a disadvantage. It's the same perspective as someone who's wheelchair bound but has carers all the time saying it 'defines' them and it's 'part of who they are' because what defines them is someone that even if they could move would still need a carer. Difference between mental and physical disabilities is that there isn't an actual block. I don't get headaches when I act of my own initiative, and I don't pass out when I socialise with people.
I'm talking from the experience of my little brother having autism. If he can't tell you what he wants because he can't think of the word almost immediately, he gets so frustrated that he begins crying. Most of the children in the group we joined seem to be the same way. The autistic people I've talked to online say the same thing. Being able to express yourself properly is like a goose with a golden egg. I can't see how being able to properly communicate with people could ever be a good thing.
If he can't tell you what he wants because he can't think of the word almost immediately, he gets so frustrated that he begins crying
Teach him sign language, let him make up his own signs and you can learn them. Learn HIS language, dont just force him to use pre-existing ones. I understand the frustration of the inability to communicate, my specialty is non-verbal children <6yo.
There are tools that can be used to grow communication skills and simply being autistic is not a death sentence or guarantee of social segregation by lack of communication abilities.
I'm sorry your experience leads you to believe every single autistic individual would choose to remove their autism given the chance, but it doesnt hold up to a larger view.
Anytime you say "every ___ would ____" when you're talking about humans there are always going to be exceptions and exclusions
Teach him sign language, let him make up his own signs and you can learn them.
I'll talk to our parents about teaching him sign language but usually he points to the general area and we can figure it out by asking him simpler questions. It's just seeing how upset he is that he can't just tell us is heartbreaking.
Depending on his age and his needs, it may be prudent to get him communication cards (almost literally just a flash card with a picture + word on it) to help him get his needs across.
Important ones: Food, Water, Toilet, Outside/Inside, Upset/Sad, Happy, Thank you
He's 8. We've taught him the words you've mentioned, but when he tries to get more complicated than basic words(when we tried to teach him reading to see if he could learn to write what he wants) he just shuts down.
You're seeing all this from a neurotypical perspective. Yes, we often find it difficult to communicate with neurotypical people, the same as you find it difficult to communicate with us. But 'difficulty communicating' is subjective. When people see me and my other autistic friends together I frequently hear things like "Wow you're really social (for autistic people)" and "You look so normal". That's because we are normal to each other. We're weird to you, but from our side neurotypical people are weird and autistic people are normal. We can communicate just fine with each other; the gap isn't between one person and the rest of the world, it's between neurotypes. We have our own social rules and cues and body language and we know them, the same as neurotypical people know theirs. Sure, there are still autistic people I/we have difficulty with but neurotypical people also have difficulty with other neurotypical people sometimes.
In your brother's case I will agree with another commenter about sign language and letting him make up his own signs etc. Right now it seems like he's trying to make himself understood to you in a way that makes sense to you. But you don't make sense to him either, and communication has to be a two-way street to work. For example, my sister and I mostly communicate with neurotypical speech, but then we also have a series of gestures and sounds for places where we don't have words that fit, sometimes we mime things, we have certain phrases or references that communicate abstract ideas or feelings, and probably lots of other things I don't even consciously think about. It probably helped that she's the youngest so when she was learning to communicate it was with the influence of two autistic siblings and at least one autistic parent.
Aururian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:01:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, in Romanian, calling someone "disabled" (handicapat) is an actual thing and is used as a mild insult. It's not far-fetched to assume that the same will happen with English.
Handicapped is actually a word in English that's not used much anymore because it's not PC. Disabled parking spaces used to be called handicapped spaces for example.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some places still use the word retard to mean slow, like if a train is going too fast and needs to slow down, the alarm might start yelling Retard! Retard!
bama05 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:13:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve heard โI.D.โ Used as an insult in a school that had an intellectual disabled population.
I met a guy who was way ahead of the trend. He was a pretty well respected psychologist, and he called me autistic way back in '09. Turns out he's been calling people autistic for decades.
Was he saying that to people who actually showed signs of autism? I am not trying to say autism isn't a thing. What is being pointed out is people love to use these terms as generic insults. Not claiming it is edgy or new, in fact as /u/tirrt was pointing on this has been going on for a long time.
The only way to get kids to not use the term for mental deficiency as an insult is to have the term so horribly cumbersome that it doesn't roll off the tongue easily.
Then kids will just keep the far better old word exclusively for use as an insult.
George Carlin has an opinion on the over-complication of language:
I don't like words that hide the truth. I don't like words that conceal reality. I don't like euphemisms, or euphemistic language. And American English is loaded with euphemisms. Cause Americans have a lot of trouble dealing with reality. Americans have trouble facing the truth, so they invent the kind of a soft language to protect themselves from it, and it gets worse with every generation. For some reason, it just keeps getting worse. I'll give you an example of that.
There's a condition in combat. Most people know about it. It's when a fighting person's nervous system has been stressed to it's absolute peak and maximum. Can't take anymore input. The nervous system has either (click) snapped or is about to snap.
In the first world war, that condition was called shell shock. Simple, honest, direct language. Two syllables, shell shock. Almost sounds like the guns themselves.
That was seventy years ago. Then a whole generation went by and the second world war came along and very same combat condition was called battle fatigue. Four syllables now. Takes a little longer to say. Doesn't seem to hurt as much. Fatigue is a nicer word than shock. Shell shock! Battle fatigue.
Then we had the war in Korea, 1950. Madison avenue was riding high by that time, and the very same combat condition was called operational exhaustion. Hey, we're up to eight syllables now! And the humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now. Operational exhaustion. Sounds like something that might happen to your car.
Then of course, came the war in Viet Nam, which has only been over for about sixteen or seventeen years, and thanks to the lies and deceits surrounding that war, I guess it's no surprise that the very same condition was called post-traumatic stress disorder. Still eight syllables, but we've added a hyphen! And the pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-traumatic stress disorder.
I'll bet you if we'd of still been calling it shell shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time. I'll betcha. I'll betcha.
I know that george carlin is god-king around here, but this is just bad. It was loosely called shell shock because no one had a clue what was happening and just assumed it was a temporary thing that you could get people to snap out of by yelling at them, but as time went on we were able to develop medical terminology as we studied, more accurately diagnosed and treated the problem. If you had "shell shock" then you were not sympathized with as much as someone with PTSD now.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:22:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, this is a nonsense comparison. The idea that veterans with PTSD are receiving worse treatment than those coming back from World War I with "shell shock" is completely bizarre. We're also recognising now that PTSD results not just from combat stress but all types of traumatic stress, so changing the name to reflect that only makes sense. "Shell shock" excludes, for example, rape victims.
That's not to say that veterans are getting the treatment that they need or that things shouldn't be much better, broadly, in terms of mental health treatment, but they have certainly improved since the 1920s. It's also worth noting that a lot of the terms people rail against as euphemisms are the preferred terms of the people affected by the condition in question, and I personally feel that should be paramount.
Specifi example notwithstanding, we were talking about the general trend toward euphemism and clinicalization, and the repeated distancing from terms that were well understood.
but euphemisms and clinicalized terms are often completely different, so I don't understand what you're saying.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:40:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, it's not that hard to do both. Listening to people about how they would prefer their condition to be described isn't just compassionate, it also provides some insight into how the condition affects them, which helps in describing the condition accurately.
Also, "shell shock" is not factual. As I have said already, it excludes a huge chunk of sufferers with PTSD including soldiers whose condition is more complicated than simply having been "shocked" by "shells" in battle.
The word 'mongoloid' used to be a name for people with Down's Syndrome. This got shortened to the insult 'mongo' and so was dropped as a politely usable term.
Similarly, 'spastic' used to be a term for someone with cerebral palsy, and then became an insult.
I never knew where 'mong' came from and I used it for years to just mean like dumb person after someone said something especially daft.
turns out its a double whammy slur against mentally retarded people as well as Mongols
kamon123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which originally came from racial classifications. Mongoloid refered to people of asian descent, negroid for african and caucasoid for caucasian
QuietSci ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:08:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I work in the field of IDD (Intelectual and Developmental Disabilities) and the proper term now is just disabled. But you have to use it in the right context, using what's called "People First" language. So you would say that someone was an "person with a disability" not a "disabled person." They are really pushing this to hopefully remove the slow slide into slurs and insults.
Unfortunately I've talked to loads of aspies who dont really care for people first language so I'm conflicted because I try to practice person first language but have conflicted messaging from the people I'm trying to advocate for
Are there any who hate the term "aspie?" I know I wouldn't want to be called that, but my diagnosis was questionable* so I am not sure if I am "allowed" to have an opinion.
*I was actually diagnosed with AS in high school, but I believe my mom convinced my doctor of it by cherry-picking symptoms that sounded like me without fully understanding the condition. I have had doctors say I do and other say I don't. Personally I don't think I do, and that the AS-like behaviors actually stem from a combination of OCD and social anxiety.
Probably. But theyre probably not diagnosed with aspergers. For the most part its about tone and context, and typically its a self ascribed term. I have some aspie friends who use it as their preferred "label", and I've never had any of them tell me not to use it. In normal verbal speech I dont use the term as much, but its a tonal word and if you use it with respect it is perfectly acceptable.
edit: for example, they appreciate the sort of natural sound of "aspie friend" versus the sterile and somewhat rigid "friend who has Aspergers"
Autist here. If a buddhist is a person who practices buddhism, and a racist is guilty of racism, why can't my autism make me an autist?
I even prefer 'sperg' to 'aspie', because it's not a cute disorder and I'm not a cute person. That cute word sounds stupid.
And people first langauge is bullshit.
QuietSci ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose I also have a different view because I work with the very low functioning end of the spectrum both with autism and downs. Most of my clients really can't advocate for themselves in that way, or for most of them even really understand the difference. That being said, I could see the ASD community embracing it much like the Deaf community does. We'll see I suppose.
True, if we look at my direct care population its largely an intersect of children with enough function to come to summer camp (with extra resources devoted to them), and also the capital to afford camp. We could only provide two weeks free camp for families in need, while that sounds nice camp is 10 weeks long..so.
But yeah, most of my exposure came with higher functioning kids. Some were still low functioning, but not in terms of considering the wide range of the spectrum. I feel like you probably understand what Im saying, its just hard to type up.
I used the term 'retards' to refer to a bunch of guys who were being mean to a guy with special needs. For me, 'retard' is someone who's perfectly capable of acting appropriately but doesn't, intentionally.
My Canadian friend gave me an earful for it.
I think 'retard' is on it's way out, and that's fine. It's been surpassed by more proper terms.
I think that is why there is this new push in education to make the term for students with intellectual disabilities not fun to say. Our current term for these students is "exceptional learner."
Now that's just a shit insult through and through, no way that'll catch on.
Here in South Australia we have an organisation called Minda which provides support/services etc to people with intellectual disability. Growing up, calling someone a "minda" was the equivalent of "retard".
We had a similar org called "Jerry's Kids". I was on a bar's weekly shuffle board league years back and when you wiffed on a shot we'd all chorus "aw. Jerrys kids" meaning you were too special to make your shot right
takatori ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never liked the term "retard" since it only implies slowness when in fact they'll never actually catch up.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is why attempting to police language through political correctness is pointless
being unusually dumb is a bad thing --- you have less social status, you are less capable, you're less desirable --- humans are never going to get around that by thinking nice thoughts, it's built into our basic nature
we can rotate the words all we want, but it'll never be disassociated from it's meaning; the word for 'retard' is always going to be an insult, no matter how it's spelled
tirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Totally agree. The more the terms attempt to run away, the more they reinforce the point. People are always going to insult each other by making comparisons to undesirables, and it's never going to be desirable to be mentally impaired or whatever else they start calling it.
You can end the use of something like "gay" as a slur with a change in the society such that gayness is not seen as a negative, and this is part of why I find it so strange to hear the rise of "autistic" at the same time as a better understanding of ASD comes about, but it's never going to be not negative to be less capable of thinking than others, and that's never not going to be an offensive comparison.
not everything gets on the euphamism treadmill. African american and first nations people are terms that have mostly died in favor of just saying black or native. Indian is still a slur.
Same thing seems to happen with references to race.
Offensive terms like the N-word get replaced with words which are more descriptive and less inflammatory. Then the new words get used as slurs and are then also offensive.
eg: 'Coloured people' seems to be an offensive term these days but 'People of colour' is ok.
I've already heard kids use the term "aspie" as an insult. "Are you on the spectrum?" as well. It doesn't matter what we do -- every clinical term will become slang if it's catchy enough.
The suggestion here for the not mentally impaired is that autistic has yet to become mainstream, and will become mainstream till it does out.
tirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're trying to claim that current and next are the same thing? Sure, if you want to completely make up your own language, you can declare that the new thing is the current thing is the next thing and something else can't be the next thing because next no longer has meaning. Go wild.
I never said current trend was "mentally impaired". In fact, I was against that it will ever become a trend. Current trend is and will be "autistic" for a long time, much like yourself. Again, l2r.
tirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that's how you read, then I'm no longer surprised you misuse words when you write as well.
Terms that sound polite or use euphemisms are already insults, like "are you special?" or "did you forget your medication?" or even just calling someone "psychotic".
As long as there is a stigma around mental illness, whatever terms we choose, no matter how sanitized, will become insults.
the irony being that "retard" is possibly the closest in denotation to its object. it's what happens when we address the letter of the law and neglect the spirit of the law. or term, i guess.
My school had to ban that word almost the day it was created because people just used that in a sarcastic tone over calling people retarded(which got you detention).
Old censusโ also have columns that will be for you to check off โidiotโ.
TIL
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I looked it up, and it was actually the term โidioticโ
At the top of this census from 1880 you have columns for โblindโ, โdeaf and dumbโ, โidioticโ, โmaimed, cripples, bedriddled, or otherwise disabledโ
Also for many years they had columns for โcan readโ and โcan writeโ and a large percent of the population was illiterate
All of which were superseded by "retard", after they became slurs, which was superseded by "special education", or sped for a short time, then autistic, and now intellectually disabled.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:14:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "cretin" came from French and literally meant 'Christian'. Apparently it was used as a euphemism for people with deformities as a reminder that people with deformities are still people and not monsters or demons. But obviously it became, you know, an insult.
I'm currently completing a Bachelor of Education in a Canadian university, and we've started to phase out the term "special needs." Referring to someone as "special," "special needs," or a "sped" has become a widely used insult, so it's going the way of the words before it. The new term were using is "exceptional," and we're declaring students to have "exceptionalities."
So in 5-8 years time, expect "exceptional" to be an insult while the school board scrambles for a new, inclusive, un-insulting term to use.
See this is why people need to stop being triggered when someone says retarded. If you're not referring to a disabled person then it's literally the same as using those other words
Reminds me of Bugs Bunny (though more often "maroon".) Anyways, calling someone after the biblical hunter Nimrod would have been a compliment if not for Bugs.
No it isn't. Sure calling someone autistic who isn't is offensive. But so is calling someone anything they are not.
I'm saying in 20-30 years I bet you medically can't call someone autistic. Just as you would never hear a doctor call someone retarded, a moron, or idiot.
This is only true of one of those words. "Dumb" used to mean "mute," and "idiot" has been used to refer to ignorant people since antiquity. It comes from an Ancient Greek term for someone who wasn't qualified for public office.
Yeah, I've looked up a few etymologies and they tend to conflict on whether it referred to someone who was unqualified or just chose not to participate.
It probably implied both, as someone who avoided politics in general would be considered unqualified for office.
More precisely, these terms came from the eugenics movements in early 20th century North America. Few people realize how prevalent eugenics was especially in the western United States and Canada.
Francis Galton proposed the idea in the late 1800s that if we are able to selectively breed livestock and plants we should be able to selectively breed humans in order to strengthen the race and do away with the "feeble-minded" (the idiots, morons, retards, etc). Galton posed the idea that the human species was "trending toward the mean" and essentially degenerating. This movement gained significant popularity as science was becoming mainstream during the 1920s and 30s. This also coincided with the depression and tough times in the west which saw people begin questioning the quality of the people around them. Mass immigration into North America bread further urgency to this cause as Americans considered the immigrants inferior, but race wasn't necessarily the main concern with eugenics.
Eventually government sponsored movements in the 1930s lead to the legalization of sterilization of the feeble-minded in many states/provinces (for example British Columbia in 1933, Canada wide in 1937) The classification of people using the Alfred Binet IQ test became standard to classify people as being worthy of conceiving children or not. Binet had never intended this use for his test and protested against it to no avail.
Eugenicists like Henry H Goddard promoted the concept of separating out deaf, dumb and blind kids and putting them into their own institutions, away from the general public. His book 'The Kallikaks' reveals the way genetics was portrayed at the time. In the book a man of pure, healthy, intelligent lineage with a wife/kids has a child with a "feeble-minded" prostitute, starting a branch of degenerate decedents that are considered to be a scourge on the race. The story was meant to educate people on the decent of human genes if we aren't able to contain the epidemic of feeble-mindedness.
Frightening, yet interesting stuff. I whipped this up in a few minutes while I should be studying, if you want more details on this I suggest you look up Galton, Goddard and the Eugenics movement. Thousands of people Less than 100 years ago were sterilized because a select few people were given the power to decide they were unworthy of having children.
Theres a really interesting documentary about a woman from Alberta, Canada that was sterilized. Honestly hurts to watch.
stygger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what did Republicans and Democrats call each other before those terms weere released to the public?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Retarded is still the official name for someone with an IQ under 40. (People with an IQ of 40 are as rare as people with an IQ of 160, so they're like an inverse Einstein)
3720to1_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โMoronโ was coined in a hospital in my hometown (in NJ). Something Iโll never forget.
I admit an old movie made me laugh really hard during a scene where a doctor closes a door, looks at two parents, and says sadly and with a straight face,
"Unfortunately...your son's an idiot."
Mother bursts out crying, "OH NO!"
Father, "Is there anything we can do?"
Doctor shakes his head in the negative.
Yes the kid was mentally disabled, and no, sadly I don't remember the movie's name. Just that it was black and white and had no famous actors I recognize.
charonco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Along these same lines, "Nimrod" was originally a mighty hunter from the Bible. It became synonymous with idiot when Bugs Bunny used it sarcastically to refer to Elmer Fudd.
6chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just the way "retard" will be someday.
eyeGunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also maniac.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's only a matter of time before 'retard' stops being an insensitive thing to say and back to being a funny word you'd call your friends.
Obscu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also: "cretin", which referred specifically to someone with cretinism which is developmental problems associated with a particular thyroid disfunction.
The term is "mental retardation" or "mentally retarded", when its not qualified with the subject 'mental' its hard to know whats being retarded (slowed down), so using 'retard' on its own is actually just a regular old insult.
Note the difference:
"He's a retard"
"He is mentally retarded"
They are leagues different
phrates ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There were some pretty humorous (in the modern context) facilities for such people in my area, like the Ohio Asylum for the Education of Idiotic and Imbecile Youth.
The same when "retarded" became an insult when it used to be a medical term. Now I think it's "mentally challeneged" which I'm sure will graduate to an insult and we'll have to get a new medical term.
hsilman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure "idiot" referred to someone with seizures, not having to do with a mental disability. Unless Dostoevsky was yanking my chain.
hsilman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems you are correct! It was an ironic meaning, as the main character was seen as simple. His seizure disorder was a part of it, but not the reason he was called "an idiot" like I thought.
History keeps doing this. Retardation or retarded used to be medical. Special-needs isnโt used much anymore. Handicapped or handi is reaching slur-level.
They go through a phase. First they're a medical term. Then everybody uses them. Through time they gain a negative connotation. So then a new medical term is made. Eventually everybody starts to use it. Then it gains a negative connotation. Rinse and repeat.
German word for deaf (doof) just means dumb these days.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lame used to mean someone who couldn't walk
BeeCDN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scope was still called The Spastic Society when I was a child! Weird to think how far we've moved away from the original meanings of these words; I feel strange even typing the word 'spastic' now.
JFeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone posted a TIL some time ago about how there were different grades to these (and imbecile) too. There's no insult that's better than calling someone a third grade imbecile.
Huh, "Dumbfound" just made a lot more sense all of a sudden.
major84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb, idiot & moron.... exclusively medical terms for the mentally disabled/impaired.
They still are..... just look at the 3 eldest drumpf children.
tympano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My high school psychology teacher used to say that these were medical terms until three amateur psychologists became a part of the popular zeitgeist: Larry, Curly and Moe.
chigonzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This move from "refined" to "coarse" usage happens with many words over time.
English and Dutch have diverged on this for the word "wife".
In Dutch, "wijf" was perfectly okay to refer to your female spouse some 100 odd years ago. It was used by the upper class. But as the lower class started using it, the word fell from grace and today is mostly used as an insult (it's very similar to "woman" in e.g. "get me a beer, woman")
Funnily enough, what word do we use for a female spouse now? Vrouw. Which literally means "woman". In Dutch, "vrouw" is both the opposite of "man" and "husband".
So in Dutch, "woman" is the correct way to refer to a wife, and "wife" is an insult to a woman.
Even though 100 years ago, you could've used either without any offense being taken in either language.
That's where the term dumbwaiter came from. People used to be worried about waiters hearing secrets and spreading gossip, so instead they devised this little elevator contraption thingy that could bring your food without spying on you. A mute waiter, so to speak.
sigilvii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What a maroon, what an ignoranimus!"
Also, 'Looney Tunes' created a new definition for the word nimrod, which was originally the name for a mythological hunter. Bugs Bunny was being ironic by calling Elmer Fudd "Nimrod".
bwana22 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I choose not to use them as some people get offended by on a personal level and there are lots of alternatives to use instead.
I mean dumb means mute, doesn't even refer to intelligence.
E: are ppl getting angry over my own personal choice to not use ableist terms haha
Mkjcaylor ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 22:48:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Under your thumb/under your little pinky: refers to when a falconer holds a bird on the fist, tucking the jesses (dangling strips of leather connected to the birds feet) under their thumb, or wrapped around their pinky
Hoodwinked: refers to using a leather hood to cover a hawk's eyes
Rouse: refers to when a bird shakes and fluffs its feathers. Shakespeare gave it the meaning of "waking up"
Fed up: refers to a falconry bird being completely full, and too full to hunt with
Haggard: a wild adult hawk, used by Shakespeare to refer to women
Bate (from "bated breath"): the term used to describe when a bird attempts to fly off the fist and the falconer holds it back. EDIT: Bated breath may actually come from "abate" meaning "to restrain" and not the falconry term
Booze: from the falconry term "bouse" referring to a bird that has drunk too much water to hunt with
Donโt forget โold codgerโ which comes from โcadgerโ, someone whose job was to carry the birds around for the falconer. Cadgering was usually reserved for younger apprentice falconers. Accordingly, an old cadger was a disparaging term for someone who was simple minded and unable to graduate past this fairly novice position
Wierd657 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:25:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Booze referring to alcohol can also be from E.C. Booze, who handed out bottles of whiskey during Lincoln's presidential campaign in the shape of log cabins, connecting Lincoln to the "log cabin, humble beginnings" thing.
'bated breath is short for "abated breath" i.e. a breath you don't let out, because you're holding your breath. When you hold the hawk back you're abating it in the same sense -- the meaning doesn't rely on the other phrase.
TBH for some reason I thought you were saying that "bated breath" came first, and I was pointing out that the falconry term is probably short for "abate" on its own and not directly from "bated breath". Now that I've had some sleep I see I got your meaning backwards. The terms could still be independent shortenings of "abate" but I could also believe Shakespeare got the term from Falconry.
Bate (from "bated breath"): the term used to describe when a bird attempts to fly off the fist and the falconer holds it back
Plenty of birds would try and escape. Which do you think is the best though. I'd say pigeons. They're the rats of the bird Kingdom. I would say they're masters of trying to escape. Pigeons are master baters.
That dates back to the horse drawn (car)riages and the driver controlling the horse would have a person with a shotgun defending and or shooting anything trying to get on the cart
skelebone ยท 7868 points ยท Posted at 18:20:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my car, passengers call "Shogun" and spend the ride protecting from barbarian invasion and quelling peasant uprisings.
Kijafa ยท 962 points ยท Posted at 19:17:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do the other passengers then spend the entire ride trying to find justification to kill the person in the front seat and replace them with one of their kids?
[deleted] ยท 315 points ยท Posted at 20:38:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only as plan B in case they can't arrange an alliance through marriage.
Nice. In my cars they call Chewbacca. They navigate the GPS, while I, Han Solo, pilot.
formlex7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
me and my friends had a similar joke in HS but extended to the whole japanese feudal system. Naturally driver was also emperor, back were samurai and back middle was merchant class
Ltwilk2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As in they control the music?
Obscu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy Shoguns
K4R1MM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my friends call it "Chewie". Because we're all hairy beasts and roar incomprehensibly.
to my knowledge japan faced fairly few barbarian invasions, It's one of the reasons they had such a devil of a time invading Korea. Once they landed they had the advantage, but the Korean navy was quite adept at beating them at sea; creating logistical problems. Also the greatest navel commander in the history of the world also didn't help.
Only invasion I'm familiar with was the mongols, which were defeated by the weather.
I just finished watching the Extra History summary of the Sengoku Jidai (the famous period in Japan), so if anyone wants to learn more about quelling peasant uprisings and peasant shoguns, you should watch it too.
I would prefer not to. We're quite aware of you Massholes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're quite aware of you Massholes
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stuwoo ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:13:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know exactly how true this is but apparently the reason we drive on the left in the UK, is because, back in old horse days, you would then have people coming towards you on your right side which is also the sword arm. Allowing you to fend off attacks from strangers.
Same in regards to the truthiness of my anecdote, but; In the US we drive on the right because the person riding shotgun sat on the right (most people are right-handed) and it's easier to aim to the left than the right when firing.
I read air-quality report that the atmosphere in Chicago is 30% bullets.
jseego ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:30:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chicago is actually 28th in the US in violent crime per capita, and 6th in murders, with most of those being clustered in particular gang-infested areas.
gyrorobo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:01:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who lives inbetween the ol' crime trifecta of Detroit, Flint, and Pontiac.. I have to laugh everytime brings up the crime in their parts of the US. Detroit is such a shithole everytime I have to go down there, sorry anyone who lives down there... but I mean you already know how trash it is.
Whenever I go down there to see something cool like DIA or w/e, the worst part of the trip is always just 'existing' in Detroit when having to do it.
Whenever anyone brings up how terrible Detroit is it always makes me think of RoboCop. The original movie was made when the city wasn't so bad but portrayed it in the near future as the most violent shit hole you'd ever see and then the 2014 remake was made when Detroit in real life was nearly as bad as it is in the original movie but they depict it as a clean and advanced city.
gyrorobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha funny how that works! Deus Ex:HR also takes place in Detroit and suffers from a lot of societal issues as well.
It seems like sci-fi media portrays Detroit pretty accurately.
mugdays ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:54:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: In 1992, East Palo Alto had a murder rate of 172.7 - nearly three times higher than the highest murder rate on that list (St. Louis).
Most shotguns do not have two barrels, only some break-actions.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:22:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but I think when the phrase first became popular, side-by-side break-action shotguns were the norm. Over-under and pump-action shotguns are a more recent development.
I found this explanation in high school. Our English class was going over Westerns I believe and we were watching a bit of a western film with Clint Eastwood in it (can't remember exactly which one).
There was a bit in the scene we watched where Clint's character volunteers to"sit shotgun" to help another main character navigate to some place that had bandits or something along the way. As soon as he said that line, you could hear the whole class let out an audible, "Ooohhh". It was pretty funny.
The driver would be on the left because most people's dominant hand was the right, so the driver would have their right hand near the center of the carriage. The reins or the whip in right hand so he could command the left and right horses equally, and use his left hand to steady himself on the outside hand rail.
The passenger on the right would carry the shotgun, and being usually right handed, would shoulder the gun on his right and wouldn't be firing the weapon in the ear of the driver.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coach. Stage coach.
jaxrose9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father was driving his unmarked police suburban to pick me and a few friends up from a show, when friend 1 called shotgun and slings the front passenger door open to a box sitting in the seat. My dad then jokingly states that the shotgun was under the furthest back seat. Friend 2 then shouts "box". Ever since, when someone hanging out with us calls shotgun, they are then instructed to sit in the back and the person who calls box gets front seat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was walking out to the car with my three daughters and my youngest of the three (9) starts running to the passenger side and yells "gunshot!" ๐๐
We all knew what she meant and got a good laugh out of it. We even let her sit gunshot.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wow, calling shotgun must have been a lot more fun back then
I actually have ridden with a shotgun in the passenger seat. You do odd things when you're bored and live far from civilization.
Also, is "can shoot a groundhog while moving 30mph and hanging out the window of a dofge minivan" a marketable skill? If it is, I've found my career path.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those carriages also had a bit where you could strap a trunk full of your stuff.
We no longer literally "cut" a filmstrip but we do figuratively cut segments out of the digital recording during editing. Cut sounds a lot better than "separate segments" so I think cutting room is still a valid term for the editing room.
ot1smile ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:35:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you're talking about removing sections it does have a kind of figurative logic but that's stretched further when it's used as a noun to refer to 'the cut', as in a particular version of the edit.
Piratian ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:57:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all films are filmed digitally these days. Most are, but I remember last year around this time someone did a movie on film and requested that theaters play it in a specific format.
Edit: it was hateful eight, and 2 years ago. Still in 70mm film
The earliest citation I can find for the phrase "cut it out" is 1914, and the etymology is unclear. It is quite possible that the idiom is itself a reference to film making.
Naedlus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:15:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or audio recording.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:22:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filmmaking predates any form of audio recording that involves cutting anything. Audio was originally on little tubes, then on record disks.
Naedlus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true. Recording images on film-stock preceded work on magnetic wire recording by likely ten years, and it took until the early-mid 1900s for recording magnetically to film to advance technologically to the point of being feasible as a consumer product.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They had scissors before the dawn of filmmaking.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:40:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blooper "reel"
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:19:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even when they film on film they donโt cut the film when they say โcutโ. I think this was always a colloquialism. I donโt think it was ever rooted in a physical act.
As a mind game though, how else would you describe the clipping of digital content? I think cut fits perfectly. You're digitally cutting digital data. Anything else like splice or trim isn't any better - there are no dedicated words for operating on digital content like that. Except maybe crop? But I bet that goes from before digital art too.
Sorry for terrible picture, on mobile and when I search for crop tool I can only find the Photoshop one. I remember it being called a cropping L if anyone can find a better pic
You cut out everything including them saying "Cut" from the video.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:25:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, "we're rolling" when recording video footage
Calling it "footage" is an anachronism when you are not saving measurable feet of anything. Footage is from how many feet long the film was. That carried over to videotape. But now you record mainly on to disks or solid state.
"Check the gate" to make sure you have usable footage before moving on. Though I've heard "check the chip" more and more in a non-jokey way. Which is funny(?), but not what you're actually doing.
Also the term "speed" "speeding," or "sound speeds." It's meant to refer to the physical film taking a second to reach full speed, as opposed to "rolling" which just means on. But digital cameras and sound recorders are always at full speed.
Sound recordist also still says "speed" to indicate he's recording. This is an artefact from the days when the tape recorder reels took time to physically stabilize at the recording speed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related: Saying "sound speed" or "one speed", "two speed", etc, for audio or video recording. There's no film that needs to get up to speed. You hit record and it's fully working.
EDIT: Just saw someone below mention the same thing.
Beheska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's even more prevalent in French: the literal translation of "to roll" is the main verb for making any film/video that is not a simple holiday/candid video, it's sometime even employed for acting in one. People say "to roll a let's-play" for example.
Also video 'footage' itself refers to the length of the recorded tape
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, in live reggae music, which has a strong history of vocalists playing to backing tracks at dance parties, sometimes the singer will say, "WHEEEEL!" and the whole band makes crazy noises and starts the song over.
They are emulating the sound of what used to happen when the MC would call "wheel," meaning "wheel back the spool of audio tape so I can start over".
--Edog-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was shooting (video) a tv spot (commercial) a few years ago and the camera guy still said "speed" to the director to let him know they were filming. "Speed" refers to film getting up to speed in a 35mmor 16mm movie camera.
I feel like 'movie' is just as archaic. "Oh look darling! Look at these wonderful pictures! They move! Moving pictures, well I never. I shall call them 'movies', what fun...Oh! Oh I do say, look out! A train!"
joshg8 ยท 1827 points ยท Posted at 16:18:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's not forget the genius level of a creative revelation that occurred when someone realized that "movies" in which we could hear the actors talk could be called "talkies!"
I must also give kudos to the genius who came up with 'walkie talkies' for that very reason. My rival company Articulate and Perambulate was a financial disaster.
Interesting, how were handie talkies used? At what unit level were radios used by the US?
Morat242 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The SCR-536 "handie-talkie" was the standard infantry platoon-level radio for pretty much the whole war. This would be a very short-ranged (like 1/4 mile or 400m average, maybe 4x that max on land) AM handset. One was in each rifle company HQ, one per rifle platoon, and two in the weapons platoon (I think one for the mortar section and one with the machine gun section). I don't remember whether the UK had a platoon radio, but aside from them no one else did. Way too expensive.
The SCR-300 FM "walkie talkie" (it's even called that in the manual!) backpack became the standard infantry company-level radio starting in mid-43 at New Georgia and Salerno. I don't know offhand what preceded it.
Tanks and artillery each used their own radio systems.
From the same makers of the 'Rooty Tooty Point 'n' Shooty'
TheJBW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first walkie talkie, the motorola scr-300 was literally a backpack with a phone handset on it.
The more portable version that could be held in your hand (and looked like later walkie-talkies) was, sensibly, called a handie-talkie. Unsurprisingly, that name did not catch on as well.
This was an natural naming choice, as it came from Motorola -- who changed their corporate name to that from 'Galvin Manufacturing' after their hit product, an early car radio, the motor (car) - ola (like victrola)
Lukeh41 ยท 660 points ยท Posted at 16:22:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When is this "talkies" fad going to end already? It's been 90 years. Enough now. I miss real films.
If I want to hear actors speak, I'll go out to the theater. Jeez
Virge23 ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 16:34:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously though, they had full ochestral pits and shit.
Not usually. They used enormous 100-200 stop organs instead, you only need to pay one guy to play it.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:27:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone shit in the pit?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh yeah they still do
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ochestral pits and shit... lol. Its fancy as fuck.
soapgoat ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:04:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
films? ahah, what a fad, along with the theater
if i want to hear a story i go to the nearest cave with my friends and we all grunt and rub red clay on the walls in the shape of things in our stories
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to my dad, my grandfather thought that color films were merely a fad that would die out too.
Lukeh41 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:43:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know...
..the first motion picture ever exhibited in public in the United States (@ Koster & Bial's in Herald Square, NYC, April 1896) was in color? It was done by hand-painting each individual frame of film.
Color was always conceptually present in film from the beginning. Just had to wait for the technology for it to become cost-effective.
That sounds awesome. 15fps, each frame painted by a contemporary modern artist (each could do a different frame, or each artist could do all the frames for each scene).
Up until the mid-1980s switch to videotape and then the mid-1990s switch to digital, most low-budget independent films were still black and white because it was cheaper.
emrducks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:00:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sgarfio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny to me that the term "talkies" died out after they all became talkies. That term was only in use for a short while when some films were still silent, and then we went back to calling them "movies" when the novelty of hearing the actors talk wore off.
p3ngwin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โWho the hell wants to hear actors talk?โ Harry asked testily, โThe musicโthatโs the big plus about this.โ - Harry Warner (Warner Brothers 1925)
I was under the impression that talkies referred to plays on the radio that you could hear but not see. Anyone know if that's correct?
Oxideist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Continuing the tradition, in Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" they call their version of the movies "feelies" due to the technology allowing them to feel the emotions of the characters on screen through a sort of haptic device.
glider97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I live, some movie theatres are still called talkies.
In Brave New World they'd have "feelies", which were movies that also delivered physical sensations. I thought it was a dumb name for them until it made me realize how silly "movie" sounds.
ipu42 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:17:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zhu Li, do the thing!
Olly0206 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:40:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Archaic doesn't necessarily mean it's incorrectly used or misnamed. They are still moving pictures after all.
Although, on the other hand, if you want to be real technical about it, they never were moving pictures. Just multiple still pictures that portrayed a sense of movement.
Film may be outdated (although still used by some producers), digital recordings do the same thing as film, it's just saved in a digital format rather than on actual film. Nevertheless, they're still just taking rapid still pictures in succession then playing them many frames at a time over a single second to produce the illusion of movement.
So you mean the horse in my zoetrope isn't for reals walking? Dang. I thought it was magic :(
Olly0206 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:56:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your joke reminded me of the guy, who's name I forget, discovered film (not actual film but using it to create movies). He was trying to win a bet over whether or not a horse had at least 2 feet on the ground at any given time while running. So he set up something like 25 or 30 cameras along a horse track and had them take pictures of the horse as it ran by. After he developed them he noticed how, when flipping through them, it gave the illusion that the horse was running.
I could have some of the details wrong. It's been a while since I learned this in film school.
This is true: nobody quite knew how horses ran until the invention of photography. Go find any painting of a horse from the seventeenth century, and you'll notice *that's not how horses fucking run. *
Exitiumx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just got off the phone to a customer who spoke exactly like that. Just read that comment in his voice, super weird!
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand film history jokes. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of film history most of the jokes will go over a typical redditorโs head. I'm too lazy to do the rest of it.
NPH's song at the Oscar's (someone could probably use the Oscar's themselves as an entry for this thread) referenced the "moving picture" definition.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Flicks" are archaic too. It refers to the old projectors that would shine through the transparent film to project the image on the screen. A "shutter" was needed to "flick" and block out the image between frames consistently at quick intervals to give the illusion of motion instead of just seeing a blobby mess on the screen in front of you.
SnapeWho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I unintentionally call movies "pictures" a lot of the time like I was born in 1923
My favorite is that people who like to see themselves as aficionados of movies like to refer to them as "films," especially when the movie is supposed to be "important." So important in fact, that they refer to it by the outdated tech we used to make a part of the movies with. Calling it a "film" is like calling a car "wheels" or an old person "white-hair."
Modern English is based quite heavily on Old Norse and Saxon languages, with a healthy boost of Norman and some Celtic mixed in for good measure. A lot of the impact of Latin came substantially post-Rome, by people who thought it more 'proper', around 1500 onwards, which in this context does make Latin kind of a modern addition.
soapgoat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fwoooosh
*your head
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still tell people I'm going to the pictures. It just stuck with me from when I was a nipper. The Saturday morning pictures were a thing back then for me and me chums. Me mum would send us there when she went for the greens and tatties.
Why did did I read that in two very different accents? The first half in a British snobby kind of accent and the second half in a southern belle kind of accent.
Ah! Youโve seen that footage of the audience freaking out at the image of a train coming towards them? From very very early days of movies. Possibly in France.
mugdays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like 'movie' is just as archaic
Well, no, because images still move on screen.
Akuze25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Flicks. Because the shutter needed to block the light so that the film could advance to the next frame. So they actually flickered. Shorten it up and itโs a flick.
We, that's my siblings and I, have been offering to do so for years. She wants no part of it!
[deleted] ยท 191 points ยท Posted at 18:31:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dont do it! We did that for my father in law, now my husband is giving him tech support at least twice a week when he mixes up his remotes or cant get Netflix to load. Keep it simple!
pcliv ยท 123 points ยท Posted at 19:36:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - exactly - if it still works for them, don't upgrade until absolutely necessary.
They won't even consider actually trying to pay attention and learn how the new TV works until the old one dies, because they come from a time when everything wasn't "disposable" and "new" every 6 months, and you didn't get something new until you wore the old one slam out.
Once the TV or VCR finally dies - at first, they'll even be more willing to just "stop" watching it than go through the hassle and cost of getting a modern device, and god forbid, having to learn how to use it.
They want everything written down, nice and simple and easy and in-order, and use no more buttons than they had to before. They don't realize that there are a hundred different way to do the same thing, and all depend on the current "mode" the remote is in. You know, the whole "Remember the last time you switched from "SAT" to "AUX" to change the volume on the stereo, and didn't remember to push "SAT" when you finished, then start freaking out and calling customer support and starting a $85 "repair" service ticket, simply because you tried to pause live TV once, but it was in "AUX" mode and didn't do what you wanted it to immediately?" incident.
So, now they call you every time they want to switch an input or change the volume or sometimes even how to turn it on. . . for the 12th time.
Sorry, rant over - My Mom's in her 90's and I go through this at least twice a month, sometimes weekly.
My grandmother used to randomly invite me to dinner and every single time I got there she would ask me to look at the TV while she was cooking. It wasn't until after an embarrassing amount of times that I noticed it wasn't really random... the TV or computer needed fixed every time she invited me over. That sly old bird was paying my ramen noodle eating ass for tech support with home cooked meals.
Skim74 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:23:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was sad when I first went to college my grandparents called me in early October saying they messed up the computer and were looking forward to Thanksgiving when I could fix it for them.
I enlisted my little sister to take over the tech support duties after that.
Happens with my grandparents as well...and my father in law...and my father. Infuriating when all I do is Google it when I don't know what the problem is.
lsguk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:24:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's one thing to just 'google' it (that's amazingly a verb now), it's a totally different thing to both know what to google and understand the results.
If I'm trying to figure out how to do some fancy formula in Excel 1/3 of my time is spent trying to figure it out myself. 1/3 trying to figure out how to explain to Google what I want to do and the remaining 1/3 trying to understand the answer qnd apply it to my spreadsheet.
And then when people ask me how I'm 'so good'at Excel I honestly feel like a fraud because I literally spent and hour farting about trying to make something work.
DaSaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really not a bad deal. You'll think back on it fondly when she ain't there any more.
I think it's a general inability to follow on-screen menus or to understand that a button has a variable, interactive function. If every single operation had a dedicated button, they'd be annoyed but able to cope.
oh man now I remember this.. a thing that used to drive me crazy, when display tech changed from using RF single cables to audio-video white-yellow-red cables? whenever any adult in my house wanted to connect any device they call me to "fix" it and I always find the cables just randomly hooked sometimes from and to the same device! I felt like screaming sometimes, how difficult it's to understand that you just connect the cables by color from device to TV?! Additionally, the AV button on the remote was a total mystery that I have to explain every single damn time. This kept happening for years!!
I felt that it isn't that they don't understand, just that they refuse to accept that it changed.
A lot of TVs even up to the late 90s didn't have any video inputs other than coaxial cable so you had to have an RF modulator and a switch to go between that and the cable/antenna.
I had this yesterday. They called me to complain that since they got a new DVR it has "broken netflix".
Of course all that had happened is that the new DVR didn't magically log them into netflix because DVR's are not cloud based so don't know what you did on a different device.
pcliv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our neighbor, who's only 57, just switched from DirectTV to DishNetwork last week. We heard for 3 days straight how pissed off she was now that she didn't get the "ID" channel any more (she loves her murder mysteries I guess).
We even heard her from next door, raising hell with the Dish customer service on the phone because she couldn't get the ID channel.
She was given a quick reference channel guide with her new system, she won't wear her glasses to read it, and she never even bothered to check if the channels were on different numbers when she switched providers - so she had been looking for the ID network on DISH on the same channel # as it was on on DirectTV. And she wasn't embarrassed in the slightest - she was angry that it was different.
Then, just this morning, she was over here asking me what a "Joey" was and why her living room TV was telling her something about a "Joey" in another room. She actually thought some guy named Joey was supposed to come fix her bedroom TV, when her joey had just timed out and shut down after hours of inactivity.
Some people just should not be allowed to operate technology.
On the flip side of this, my in-laws, for example, at least try to adopt new technology...that they end up calling me 3-4 times a week to explain or fix for them. Not too bad, for me, but calling me at work, or getting all upset that I didn't answer the phone immediately because I was in the shower/mowing the yard/working on something that makes noise/hunting.
MinagiV ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:27:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father in law, who owned a local video store, has a few still brand new in package. When he passes (knock on wood it wonโt be for a while), weโre selling those suckers for real. (He also has original, in-wrapper Disney movies on VHS! Dude isnโt exactly a hoarder, but he knows whatโs valuable and wants us to have a nice little nest egg for our kids.)
MinagiV ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:59:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure he has at least half of these, and also the original print of The Little Mermaid with the โpenis tower!โ Damn. My kids are getting an amazing edumacation!
That's a garbage article, none of those are selling for more than a few dollars on eBay. For example, they claim $17,000 for a Black Diamond edition of Beauty and the Beast, but there are sealed copies as low as $25. If you have all 8 of those in decent used condition you're probably looking at $20, and most of that will go toward shipping costs.
People need to learn that just because someone is asking a ridiculous amount of money for something on eBay/Amazon/Craigslist it doesn't mean that anyone will buy it at that price. It's not difficult to check "sold" listings on eBay, and when one item does appear to sell at a high price while hundreds of others go for a few dollars it's generally a sign of a prank/scam, something fishy like money laundering, or that it was a "best offer" situation (eBay doesn't publish what an item sells for, only how much the seller asked, so it could be that they listed it at $17,000 but someone offered $10 and they accepted the offer).
deptford ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amen to that. If people are content with older systems, why force an upgrade? CRT tv's and VCR'S still work. Picking up a 2nd hand model will not be hard
CptNoble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find after a certain point old technology becomes more expensive. Case in point my sister wants one of those bedside alarm clock/iPod docks but ones that still have a port for an old ass iPod like hers cost more than new ones with a lightning connector.
She's likely declining because she doesn't want her children to spend money on something she sees as expensive and unnecessary, not because she is a tv luddite.
My grandparents resisted HD and DVDs until the family just bought them some LCD tvs.
and she has the basic of basic cable packages. She had never heard of CSPAN and it was quite a challenge trying to explain it to her.
Dotjiff ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:05:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If yesanything's mother is anything like mine, she literally would refuse someone buying her new technology. New technology doesn't mean better quality, ease of use, etc., it just means "another headache" since she has to learn how to use it.
When I got a DVR, I remember telling my Dad that if you explained what it did to my Mum, she wouldn't want one... but if you actually gave her one and let her use it, she'd love it.
My brother bought one for my parents a year or two later and it turned out I was absolutely right.
Old people have been through it all. My grandmother was always a huge Indian soap opera addict. She lived through the radio days, to black and white TV (rented during special occasions), to a modern 4K Smart TV equipped with all kinds of apps. Still watches the same things.
Depends what country you grew up in; in the UK we never called it a VCR, was generally called a video player or video recorder depending on what you were doing with it.
"Video" was also often used to refer to video cassettes, though I don't recall any confusion between the two, so I assume the context must have made it clear.
(Why am I "assuming" that about words I even frequently used myself? Because- like most language you pick up implicitly and which is in common use- I don't think I ever consciously paid attention to it. Also, it's a almost a decade since I last regularly used a video recorder, and I'll have been influenced more by American terms like "VCR" in recent years that- as you say- no-one used at the time).
Driesens ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How else is she going to watch her Night Court reruns?
I gave my 73 yr old mom a tablet w Netflix, Kindle, and Bluetooth speakers as a backup plan because her old stuff - archaic computer, VCR, DVD player, ancient TV - kept having various probs and of course I'm tech support so it was in my interest too. We play games online now and she's learned about grocery delivery and how to Google things. Now at 75 she is considering cutting the cable cord! I'll believe it when I see it but she's come a long way! Still has a landline and a tape answering machine. ๐
This was my mom right up till they cancelled All My Children.
FYF69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do my in-laws. On both counts. Every time I go over to their house and they have the TV on, I wonder how the hell we put up with that garbage for so long.
To be clear, when I was a child, our TV was a 13" B/W.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom is so retro.
laxt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I completely agree. Film is a word I use only when speaking about my education. When people ask me what I think about say Interstellar, I tell them itโs my favorite movie. Otherwise Id sound like a pretentious asshole.
Nah, Americans use "films" pretty item too. Not as much as "movie" but it isn't rare.
We won't say "let's go see a film" but will definitely say "that's the best horror film I've seen in years" or "You didn't tell me this movie was a foreign film."
cgspam ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 16:37:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"film" has a more highbrow connotation, like you can see an independent film or a B movie.
Itโs not from British English though. Hollywood used to shoot on film hence the term. I think the reason itโs seen as more โhigh browโ has more to do with the fact that film had a higher picture quality than digital for a very long time, which attracted filmmakers with high standards and a taste for retro technology like when Tarantino shot the Hateful 8. It has the same โanalog > digitalโ hipster appeal as vinyl and Polaroid, and the word itself just sounds more prestigious than โmovie.โ
JMGurgeh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:54:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a thing pre-digital age. Film was still the highbrow version, movie the more common way of referring to them.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My personal view is that "movie" sounds more casual because it's a diminutive.
I think it's a little more complicated. "Movies" or "Movie" are used to reference the idea. Like, "Let's go to the movies", or "Did you watch a movie last night".
A 'film' is more specific and tangible. "Lets see a horror film" or "It was the best film I had seen in ages".
To me it's about the content of the show. If it's just another blockbuster "give me money," it's a movie (which can still be a great movie, but a movie nonetheless). If it's art, not targeted at everyone that might see it, and not made solely to make money, I consider it a film.
We use "movie" and "movies" when saying "film" or "theater would sound pretentious but using "film" or "theater" is perfectly fine when used to describe those things.
"We went to the movies."
"What theater did you go to?"
joshi38 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:40:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film's a fairly widely used term. All the festivals are known as "Film Festivals", including in the US.
Movies are pictures that move. Talkies were moving pictures with sound instead of caption cards. Move ie is a very American term... Slang... I totally get why British would call them films, since that is what they were recorded on... but Movie makes more sense to me as a less ambiguous term.
For some reason people still say "sex tape" when speaking of celebrities recorded doing the naughty though.
Infobomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in my 40s and I often hear my friends using the verb "tape" to describe what a DVR does.
kindall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A videographer I used to know back in Detroit did lots of candid shooting. People would ask him, "are you filming?" and he'd reply "no," then wait a beat and add, "it's videotape."
Professional recording studios still use analog tape.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:54:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all of them have the equipment and those that do rarely use it. Almost every instance I personally know of it being used in the last few years is essentially as an effect in the signal chain to get that sweet sweet tape saturation, with the end of the chain still being a Pro Tools rig.
But yeah, you're right, the equipment is still owned and used.
A very, very, small and dwindling number do...and as far as I know only one uses a completely end to end analog workflow. Now tape is still used a lot to back up digital data of course, but nobody ever uses "tape" as a verb regarding that.
ot1smile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate that they're both vague and subjective terms but I'd argue that 29 movies shot on film released in 2016 is closer to 'hardly any' than 'lots'. Either way there are definitely fewer movies shot on film than digitally these days. Even Roger Deakins has said that 'it's over'.
The very fact that there is lots of attention paid whenever someone like Tarantino makes a point of shooting on film, or that Kodak have a 'Shot on Film' page, is precisely because they are bucking the overall trend.
I use the term "DVR" now...if I heard someone say "I taped it" I would look at them kind of funny.
nbd712 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:10:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in TV and we still have tape rooms, tape operators, when we go back to the beginning of a digital playlist, we still call it re-racking. That being said...we still use actual tape for some things.
I feel as though "film" connotes an artistic endeavor, or else a really snooty taste in movies
flash17k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many movies are still recorded on film, though. It's not totally digital at this point yet.
flash17k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife always asks me to get my cellphone out and "tape" something cute that the kids are doing. I have tried to get her to start saying "record" to no avail.
cshea71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also the term "filming" something, when film is never actually used.
Calling a movie a film isn't uncommon in the US. It's also not quite innacurate yet. Many big budget movies are still shot on literal filmstock (the new Star Wars movies, for example) and many theaters still project on actual reels (though digital is certainly becoming more and more commonplace).
The simple fact is digital technology is not yet at the same level as high end film stock, and a discerning connoisseur/expert can still identify the different. Probably won't be that way by mid-century anymore, though.
Crash324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's close. Ask Steve Yedlin (who, as it happens, just shot The Last Jedi). His DisplayPrepDemo is incredibly telling about the impact of image preparation in both environments (http://yedlin.net/OnColorScience/). He can essentially replicate the look of film with digital cameras. At the high-end color houses are adding grain plates, but they're not always believable. However, what Yedlin does is a much more involved process that yields incredible results. The large majority of audience members would not be able to tell the difference.
Film stock is still improving too, which is great to hear. And digital noise is getting less ugly, look at Atlanta, tons of noise but still looks beautiful.
ocschwar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Hebrew, the word for a video is "ribbon", for obvious reasons.
And the term for a funny anecdote is "clipping." You have to be real old to understand that part. (Back in the day, children's birthday parties would feature a Super-8 movie projector aimed at a bedsheet, with rented 8 mm reels of scenes from full length movies. (for example, just the slapstick scenes from Herbie the Love Bug))
"Movie" and "film" are used interchangeably here in the U.S. Especially helpful when writing about them.
Personally, I kind of use "movie" generically and "film" for those that are attempting to be something less about entertainment and more about art. Example: X-Men: Days of Future Past is a movie whereas Logan was tying to be a film.
ctmurray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I decided to keep using "taping" instead of "DVRing" when discussing television recordings.
I work in live television production and still call it a "tape" because it's the most unambiguous term to use to describe a video piece. "Get the tape to playback ASAP" works better than "Get the rendered final piece on a USB stick now"
ot1smile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in the same vein mixtapes are no longer cassettes with one song blending into the next song. nor are they a collective of unrelated songs by different artists that convey a similar idea
Well there are a ton of movies still being recorded on actual film. Tarantino and Nolan very famously still use actual film. So it's not as archaic as it seems.
I run into this problem when I want to say a movie wasn't good enough to see in the theaters but they should see it at home when it comes to.. DVD?
Seems like the wrong word to use. I don't think people even buy/rent movies on DVD anymore. Netflix might never have it. So the solution would be to rent it "off Amazon/iTunes/cable provider".. but that's a lot of words to say.
I've switched from movie to film about 90% of the time because that's what my husband says. I think my vocabulary is just super weird now after living in Scotland, marrying a Scottish guy, and then moving back to Canada. Everything is all mixed up. At least I can take comfort in the fact that he says Canadian stuff now too.
Everyone who still says tape will be dead within 20 years. I hardly think this qualifies Uncle Monty you dirty man.
9loabl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am sure some (probably very few by now) movies/films are still recorded using film cameras. You know that celluloid stuff that got replaced by digital.
So the word 'film' is a more recent word than 'movie' which dates back to the 1910s or thereabouts.. The term came from the fact that the images were moving. Like motion pictures.
Also 'caught on tape', sounds like a duck tape trap caught them.
bcm2578 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 9 year old that sometimes says she โtaped a videoโ when sheโs talking about using an iPhone to take a video. I have no clue where she picked that up from.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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xorgol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or pellicola, but it's not exactly in common usage. I only made the connection between the word film, meaning movie, and the word film meaning pellicule when learning English.
To be fair, a lot of movies are still shot in and projected in film, but it's not an industry standard anymore.
kodemage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TV is also anachronistic. At this point they're all just screens. The difference between a TV and a Monitor is academic at this point.
nels5104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DVR is now a verb which is comical.
โIโm DVRing itโ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cinematography refers to the cinematograph, one of the earliest motion picture cameras invented by the Lumiรจre brothers in the 1890s.
aa2051 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Scotland we also say "We're going to the pictures" instead of going to the cinema, which im sure was a nickname when silent films first came about, as they were essentially just rapidly moving frames (well, they still are!)
Never thought about it until now, pretty odd its stuck around after all these years.
RhettS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of movies are still shot or projected on film. Not as many as digital, but still there are some.
ahecht ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But more and more movies are returning to using actual film these days. The new Star Wars movies (but not Rogue One), the DC movies (Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, Justice League), the new Mummy movie, Murder on the Orient Express, Dunkirk, Hidden Figures, La La Land, Fences, Silence, etc. were all shot on film.
Hey! I know a good few people who still tape the football - or get the wife to - if they're working. My dad included, and he's still in his early fifties.
In American, only the more artsy stuff gets called a film. Iโd guess it has to do with it sounding fancier to us thanks to how indie movies are marketed. A movie by a studio like A24 usually gets called a film, while superhero films are always โmovie of the yearโ or some other cliche line of action packed adventure for the moviegoer.
I do a similar thing - "Is that out on video yet?"
The response from some people is like "...noooo?? It's on Blu-Ray" as if I genuinely think someone released it on a fucking VHS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN YOU PEDANTIC ASS.
ot1smile ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not even pedantic, just plain wrong. As I've said elsewhere, the word video doesn't belong to VHS (or DVD). The Blu-rays you get are blu-ray video discs. Video just means visual so in the context you're using it it's obvious that it means 'a digital video format available for home viewing', which could cover DVD, blu-ray or download/streaming services.
ascii122 ยท 791 points ยท Posted at 21:07:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the static at the beginning of an HBO show. Whole generations have no idea why there is static there.
Of course these days most of the static on your screen is interference from earth, but way back when it wasn't so noisy it really was the case that it was mostly CMBR.
Ya it's used for dramatic effect to show that something's conked out but it's becoming a bit of an anachronism.
Also, 'films', lol!
hallettj ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:40:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until people become more accustomed to the blue screen of "no input".
Euchre ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:43:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny thing about the 'blue screen'...
Choosing blue for a screen lacking signal or not otherwise displaying an image was the worst thing for CRT displays. The phosphors used in CRTs do 'burn out' from use, and guess which color is most vulnerable? Yep, blue. Some folks savvy in such display technology propose that this was to wear out displays on purpose, to push for more frequent replacement purchases.
Of course, LCDs don't suffer such a similar issue, so your choice of 'no signal' screen is inconsequential.
Only of you ever use it in TV mode. My TV is permanently on HDMI1 for satellite TV or HDMI2 for Chromecast. I don't even have a TV antenna connected to it.
It must be connected to your cable box over RF and tuned to the signal then. Get yourself and HDMI cable, and enjoy a better quality picture.. And never see static again.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's inaccurate. I clearly remember my Sega Genesis having a channel selection switch. I went from SNES to PlayStation, then to Xbox 360. SNES also had a switch, but PlayStation was composite.
collin-h ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:25:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not that old (mid-30s) but I still remember TV stations that went off air overnight.
OzNTM ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:32:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ABC3 in Australia still does. I also remember probably about 15-20 years ago kids channels on pay tv here used to as well. Nickelodeon (I think?) used to turn into TCM after a certain time of night.
i used to record them on vhs and watch them during the week, if i got up especially early i remember i'd catch the adams family. trying to remember some of my favorites but honestly can't. i do remember the spider man cartoon being pretty good. gargoyles. the tick was okay. i remember street sharks for some reason too lol.
I wonder what very young people think of that stylistic thing were thrillers or 'mysterious' TV shows have subtitles appear as if produced by a a typewriter. I'm explaining this badly but I'm sure you can imagine an episode of the X-Files.
A desert, New Mexico, 1995.
And that appears one letter at a time with a tip - tap - tip - tap sound.
domromer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The X Files ones were silent. Man the ones that made noise on other shows were really annoying though!
nairebis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:39:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you first turned on an old TV, the tubes would have to warm up. So often you'd get that static before it locked into the channel. Note that at the very beginning of the HBO intro, you see it start as a line that grows into the picture. That's what it looked like as the tubes warmed up and got going. And the HBO outro, it shows the TV turning off and a dying signal on the CRT as the capacitors discharged.
In the old days, it could actually take a full minute for a TV to (literally) warm up and start working, though the HBO intro shows a more "modern" TV where it just took a few seconds.
Euchre ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:48:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Forget just the static - I recently had a conversation with a customer who complained that a TV took 13-17 seconds to turn on, due to the boot up process of being a digital, smart TV. You're thinking I'm talking about whiny millennials, right? Nope - old folks, 65+. I had to say it was funny how we've gotten spoiled by technology over time, as CRTs grew capacitors to make them become 'instant on' displays, because before that you had to wait for a CRT to 'warm up' to show a full, bright image. When I was very little, I remember this - and they were old enough to remember it well.
I donโt know if this is relevant, or honestly even how correct it is, but that static is a binary representation of data - ones and zeroes are whites and blacks, respectively.
When old-as-hell computers would crash, they would perform a binary data-dump and flash the contents of memory on-screen in what was called a โsnow crash.โ
(Static used to be called โsnowโ)
In a book by that name (Snowcrash by Neal Stephenson) the author imagines a future in which programmers have become so familiar with speaking in machine languages, and computer interfaces have become so common and direct into the mind, that a personโs brain can be โhackedโ IRL if theyโre shown a bitmap of static in a certain arrangement inside of what he imagined the internet would be. He conceived of it as being a VR instance which was populated with avatars. (edit - Iโve read somewhere that this was one of, if not the first, instances of the idea of a representation of the user in computational space as an โavatar.โ)
This book is from the late eighties / early nineties, and it is way ahead of its time. I still use a lot of words and concepts from it - the tablet Iโm writing this from is called โinfocalypseโ after another piece of code from the narrative. I felt pretty clever about this because ancient Babylonian tablets figure prominently into the storyline, as he suggests that these tablets contained โcodeโ in the form of a basic, universal human language that was processed below the conscious level.
So, my โtabletโ is something like the tablets that the first writing was recorded on. Full. Fuckinโ. Circle.
Iโm constantly amazed by this kind of thing. Maybe itโs just a childish sense of wonder, but I think itโs really cool.
Anyway, anyone who hasnโt read the book should really give it a look. Itโs lots of fun.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ereldar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you read the forward in the 20th anniversary edition of Neuromancer, William Gibson describes how he thinks people miss out on his description of the Chiba sky as the color of a TV tuned to an off the air channel. No one sees static anymore. He was worried that his descriptions have lost their effect over time.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's funny. The first line of Snow Crash has a similar archaic reference: telephone books
The Deliverator belongs to an elite order, a hallowed subcategory. He ' s got esprit up to here. Right now, he is preparing to carry out his third mission of the night. His uniform is black as activated charcoal, filtering the very light out of the air. A bullet will bounce off its arachnofiber weave like a wren
hitting a patio door, but excess perspiration wafts through it like a breeze through a freshly napalmed forest, Where his body has bony extremities, the suit has sintered armorgel: feels like gritty jello, protects like a stack of telephone books.
I was watching Stranger Things, and there are points in that where they show TVs that are just showing static, but it's clearly an effect. It doesn't look how real TV static should look.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an old tube tv. Maybe i'll fire that thing up and let the static rip
I have two out in my garage a 14 inch and a 24 inch. The idea is, eventually, to get them set up and in use for old gaming. You can't beat vintage console gaming on a TV of the time.
Plus the old light gun games work properly on them.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cool. I have an AC/DC one from way back in the day. it's about 16 inch? It still works even on 12vDC
I did have an really old like five inch maybe black and white one that had a DC input. Unfortunately I don't think it works any more, and even if it did, it only has RF input so it's a bit of a faff to get a modern signal into it.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh yeah. I'm so far out in the boonies I don't have over the air signals.. so I'm stuck with satellite or nothing. edit: but it still has coax out so no problemo
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm 20 and I remember that static. The only generation that doesn't is the latest one and even they probably know it from old school TV's.
[deleted] ยท 478 points ยท Posted at 19:45:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, in the UK the pound (ยฃ) refers to a pound of sterling silver (UK currency is often referred as sterling) but hasn't been related to the value of sterling silver for many years.
There's also the expression "penny wise and pound foolish." I live in the United States, so I had no idea what pounds had to do with pennies - I thought they were referring to weight. :-P
We Canadians abolished the penny a few years ago. Our smallest unit of physical money is the nickel (5ยข). Businesses no longer accept pennies (but the bank will exchange them for you).
If you are paying cash and the total comes to $4.63 or $4.64, you pay $4.65. If the total is $4.61 or $4.62, you pay $4.60. It's rounded to the nearest nickel. If you're paying by debit or credit, you pay the exact amount.
I believe every time they bring it up, the penny fans become extremely vocal and it ends up being unfavorable for congressmen to push for it as it disrupts their voter base.
That's like a really old currency in Germany was the Thaler. (Precursor BTW to the word dollar). They changed the spelling to Taler before they changed to Deutschmarks, but any small round flat item, particularly confectionery, is commonly referred to as a Taler.
katflace ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:25:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the way that when the Deutsche Mark was still a thing, people would frequently refer to 10 Pfennig coins as a "Groschen". That's the name of a coin that hasn't been around since the 19th century...
When Austria still had the Schilling, there were technically 100 Groschen to the Schilling but almost no one ever denominated prices in it (I actually managed to see a 10 Groschen coin when I was there, it was made of aluminum and worth less than a cent).
ky0nshi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:00:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
older people still use Groschen as a word, now for ten cents.
On the topic of other languages 'konnichiwa' doesn't originally mean 'hello' or 'good day' in Japanese. I recognise it as 'kon' (this), 'nichi' (day), wa (grammar particle marking the topic), but didn't think about it as a cut-off sentence. Japanese friend told me it's short for "Have you eaten your rice this day?" even though people don't expect everyone else to necessarily have eaten rice for breakfast (or maybe lunch). Apparently most Japanese don't realise this so it's funny for me to know as a white dude.
This is as close to literally 'every day' (as stated in the question) that I think anyone could achieve.
brehvgc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Just checked and looks like it could be a variety of phrases, all starting the same. Wikitionary gives examples of "How are you feeling today?" and "Good weather today isn't it?" So okay, rice isn't the full answer but it fits in the 'genre' and the point remains the same; 'konnichiwa' is just a truncated question. Link is in Japanese.
brehvgc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:29:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not denying that it's a cutoff sentence, but neither of those are tied to eating rice.
I think the point he made to me was that because rice was such a staple food, asking someone whether they'd eaten rice/a meal (gohan) would in the past have given a clear answer as to whether or not the person was okay/well, in the vein of 'How are you?' So in context, they're similar that way. Does that make sense?
actually, that person is probably correct, in Cantonese , many chinese people when greeting , will ask "have you eaten rice yet" or ,Sik Cho (Eaten) Fan (Rice) Mei Aa (Yet).
Zenblend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK, time to eat some rice
brehvgc ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:01:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
French fries and gravy with cheese curds
You eat poutine in Korea?
linksfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Japanese, the counter word for birds, ็พฝ, is also used for rabbits, apparently due to at one time the shogun or a lord declaring that rabbits were his, so people started passing off skinned rabbits as plucked birds
In Germany, and especially Austria, where it was the"cent" until the Euro was introduced, the term "der GROSCHEN ist gefallen", is still heavily used (means, you finally understand something or you sort something out)
Every line in every Windows file ends in a "carriage return" character followed by a "line feed" character. If you're on Windows, the Enter key is in fact a Carriage Return key.
Don't even get me started on line endings. I'm a Linux guy using a Mac in a Windows shop.
Half my life revolves around "CRLF will be replaced with LF on crying.gif"
Which, ignoring the actual file name is a thing that happened. git changed the line ending in a gif because someone had forced it to commit with CRLFs.
Another fun aspect of my life is Unicode errors because half the applications are in Python 2 and "Fucking unicode, how does it work?"
/grognard
ifly6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How dare you insult Python! Python is the best! Guido can do no wrong! rabble rabble rabble /s
I like Python, but I'll be the first to throw some stones at it.
Python 2 is a train wreck and the language is lucky to have survived it:
str is bytes and unicode is...well, broken as shit unless you play unicode whackamole with encode/decode all over because even though you try to be a good dev and decode/encode on IO boundaries, there's always that one library that's just "lol fuk u m8"
1 < {} < [] < set() < "" < () LMFAO
Two different ways to define classes that have different semantic meanings: class Foo vs class Foo(object)
Modifying a variable defined in a closure is needlessly difficult
And then fun stuff like:
x = 'a'
[x for x in range(1)]
print x # 0
Dumb syntax:
except ValueError, e:
print >> fh, "stuff"
Nested with (although, fixed in 2.7)
Now, given all of these were fixed in various 3.X releases, but there are still issues:
Threading is a joke in CPython because of the GIL. People cross their fingers and hope it'll be slain one day but I have no hopes of that. asyncio is a decent replacement, but there's not a good way to do CPU intensive operations in a background thread. You need to use the multiprocessing library (or the concurrent.futures.ProcessPoolExecutor as an abstration) but that comes with the limitation that objects passing process boundaries needed be pickleable. Or something more heavy weight like Celery that offer different serialization formats but also end up requiring a broker such as redis.
I go back and forth on the whole "lambda must be a single expression" thing.
Python's biggest strength is its biggest weakness: Everything is so dynamic that even what type an object thinks it is can change under your feet:
class Foo(object):
pass
class Bar(object):
def hello(self):
print("hello")
f = Foo()
f.__class__ = Bar
f.hello()
I could go on, but I just feel like I'm an angry husband yelling at my wife because I'm actually mad at some dumb shit someone else did at this point. :(
I'm sorry Python, I love you.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:25:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
x = 'a'
tmp = []
for x in range(1):
tmp.append(x)
print(x)
Except the list comp should have its own, nested scope. It does in Python 3, meaning it ends up looking like:
x = 'a'
def tmp():
tmp = []
for x in range(1):
tmp.append(x)
return tmp
tmp()
print(x)
Which is more in line with what I expect.
gsfgf ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:25:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Word, paragraph (ยถ) and carriage return (โ) are different things. Shift+Enter will go to the next line but not start a new paragraph. This is useful if you're formatting with styles like you should but you need a new line for whatever reason.
DanYHKim ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:31:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's called a "newline" in the old MS Word manual, I think. I use it a lot when I need to insert a blank line in a paragraph formatted for auto-numbering or bullets.
Pro Tip: When you do it, don't tell others how it's done. The others in your office will think you're some kind of wizard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ouyawei ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:20:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can not erase a line on a typewriter.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Alis451 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:56:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
technically \n is LF -> Line Feed, and that is a printer command
The reason why order matters
The sequence CR+LF was in common use on many early computer systems that had adopted Teletype machines, typically a Teletype Model 33 ASR, as a console device, because this sequence was required to position those printers at the start of a new line. The separation of newline into two functions concealed the fact that the print head could not return from the far right to the beginning of the next line in one-character time. That is why the sequence was always sent with the CR first. A character printed after a CR would often print as a smudge, on-the-fly in the middle of the page, while it was still moving the carriage back to the first position. "The solution was to make the newline two characters: CR to move the carriage to column one, and LF to move the paper up." In fact, it was often necessary to send extra characters (extraneous CRs or NULs, which are ignored) to give the print head time to move to the left margin. Even many early video displays required multiple character times to scroll the display.
LF: Line Feed, U+000A
VT: Vertical Tab, U+000B
FF: Form Feed, U+000C
CR: Carriage Return, U+000D
CR+LF: CR (U+000D) followed by LF (U+000A)
NEL: Next Line, U+0085
LS: Line Separator, U+2028
PS: Paragraph Separator, U+2029
Windows In Particular uses CR+LF or \r\n in that order specifically.
ouyawei ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but the carriage return and new line commands originate from the Teletype which would print on actual paper - no way to erase a line there.
Neil_sm ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:50:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It says "Return" on my apple usb keyboard too.
Dungarth ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:36:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In most modern word processing software, hitting [enter] doesn't only imply a carriage return, it also includes a paragraph change (ยถ). If you use [shift+enter], it will act as a regular carriage return (โต) and not count as a new paragraph.
Did (non-electronic) typewriters even have a return/enter key? They had a line feed handle that could also be used to return the carriage (and both those actions are still part of the control codes in ASCII and UTF-8), but I'm not sure if there ever was a new line key.
yzRPhu ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it moves the paper a line down but you have to move the paper physically to the beginning of the line.
As far as I know, only electric typewriters have a return key. We had one during the 80's, and so I also called the enter button the return key for a long time.
crimeo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I collect mechanical only typewriters, and no, I've never seen a return key. Only for ones where electricity was available to return the carriage without muscle.
DanYHKim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manual typewriters have a lever on the left side that you sweep your hand to push. Watch a video of someone using a typewriter. As you type, you will approach the right edge of the page. You will have to account for your margin, and estimate if you have enough space to type in the next complete word, or if you can fit in a hyphenated word fragment. Your typewriter will have a spring-loaded bell that will chime when you approach the right edge of the paper.
When you have run out of usable space before the margin, you use your hand to push against the lever, which will advance the carriage (giving you a new line to type on) while you push the carriage across to place the strike target at the left margin of the paper.
This resulted in a characteristic sound of typing: the clatter of keys being pressed and typebars striking the inked ribbon, eventually followed by the chime indicating the end of the line, and then the clunk and ratchet sound of the return lever being swept across, followed by the resumption of the typing sound.
I use it to go to the next line in a document, or to return to the left side of the document.
I use it to input a web search, or to enter my search terms.
I use it as the confirm button on dialogue windows, or to enter my selection.
I use it as the confirm key in video games as well. That's already 3 for "enter" and 1 for "return"
It more often returns the curser than it ever enters into the line, whatever that means.
[deleted] ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 17:33:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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0x564A00 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:12:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
German keyboards have qwertz instead of qwerty. For old software that meant I had to press Z instead of Y when asked for confirmation. Despite very rarely using software that isn't aware of my key layout I somehow press Z when asked to answer with y/n.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 18:56:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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robisodd ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:39:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fubo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:51:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keyboards don't directly generate the code for a particular letter, number, or symbol. They generate "scan codes" that indicate when a key is pressed or released. The computer's keyboard driver interprets these according to a particular configured layout.
The Z key on a German-labeled keyboard generates the same scan code as the Y key on an English-labeled keyboard. That's why without a driver that knows about the German layout, you get a Y there.
Mine has that too. Mid-2012. I thought it was only on MacBooks with the number pad layer on the keyboard (like my old white MacBook) where you use either the fn key or the num lock key to get a virtual number pad in the middle of the keyboard, but I guess not.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:17:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I took a quick look at my MacBook keyboard and the key is labelled as both, but enter is in slightly smaller type.
Dude just needs to make his kids Mac-users.
Retbull ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:23:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Return and Enter do two separate functions for typesetters.
Shift+Return is a soft return, meant for line breaks in long paragraphs of text. These are to shift a word to the next line so it reads or flows better.
Return is a hard return, meant to signify the end of a paragraph.
Enter is used to move the text to the next column, or page.
On the other hand, Mac uses unix line endings in text files, just a newline "\n", while Windows puts a carriage return and a line feed, "\r\n". The Mac return key doesn't actually create a carriage return character.
Retbull ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:26:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you are using confluence which for SOME FUCKING REASON INSISTS ON BEING THE ONLY PEOPLE ON THE PLANET WHO USE IT "CORRECTLY"
wfaulk ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:51:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prior to Mac OS X, Mac text files' lines ended with just "\r". You'll still occasionally run across such text files.
Kered13 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:53:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In college a friend of mine got an assignment from a professor that he wasn't able to open correctly in any text editor. It was readable but newlines weren't printing correctly. When I looked at it I recognized that it had \r newlines (most editors will handle either Unix or Windows newlines fine, not all of them are written to handle old Mac newlines). This would have been around 2008 or 2009, so OS X had been out for a long time.
wfaulk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:08:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, there were utilities that used old-school Mac text encoding long after Mac OS X came out, including, IIRC, some of the stock Mac OS utilities. I can't think of any that are still like that. (I just checked TextEdit, and it uses bare newlines, even when saving in MacRoman encoding.) FWIW, you can get vim to both save and detect Mac line separators by setting fileformat and fileformats, respectively.
japes28 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:26:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is really interesting because my Mac's key says both:
enter
return
while it only does one.
Mikuro ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:45:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The top one is the secondary function of the key. So you hit fn-Return to get Enter. It still doesn't do that, though.
Here is a decent example. Problem is it's all in gibberish (lorem ipsum, a typography placeholder).
1 is a hard return (Return key on your keyboard). It's the end of the paragraph. This example has "space after" defined, so it automatically adds some white space after that hard return character, the red backward mark.
2 is a soft return (Shift + Return). The word "nulpute" could easily fit in the line before, but it reads better on the next line, or it squeezes the text too much if justified.
3 is a column break (the enter key on the number pad on your keyboard). It moves the text to the next page or column.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:27:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, I'm on a late 2011 MBP with a USB keyboard, the one on the laptop has both "enter" and "return" but the USB keyboard only has "return". I wonder what changed
abusmakk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:06:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve had a macbook for nine years. Never realised this and felt pretty dumb. Had to go and check, as I was on my phone when I read it. Thankfully my macbook didnโt say return. It was just the symbol.
However, it still deviates from the standard usage of the "delete" key.
The delete key is a key on most computer keyboards which typically is used to delete either (in text mode) the character ahead of or beneath the cursor, or (in GUI mode) the currently-selected object.
caper72 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:35:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PC
Backspace: remove the character to the left of the cursor.
Delete: remove the character the cursor is on.
Mac
Delete: acts like the PC backspace.
And that's not even the dumbest thing about a mac keyboard. The power button is right above the backs... delete key. So, at some point you're going to accidentally hit the power button.... leaving you thinking "why did my laptop just shutdown?"
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:02:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That power button doesnโt automatically shut down the MacBook though. Iโve accidentally hit it a bunch of times.
caper72 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:04:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It shut down for me once. Other times it didn't do anything.
edit: i'm not lying about the shutdown. just fyi. Yes, I've accidentally hit it a bunch of times and it only ever shutdown once. It's still a poor spot to put it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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caper72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That does make sense and good to know. I'm a touch typist and used to keys being in certain spots. So, when something is different it can be annoying. like the internet search is command-option-f whereas in windows/linux it's ctrl-k.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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caper72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is Awesome Bar a thing or are you just referring to the Location Bar? And yes, I realize cmd-L goes to the location bar and will do a search if it's not a url.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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caper72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I may have forgotten about that. i've always just called it the location bar and this is the first time (that I recall) I've heard it referred to as awesome bar. Been browsing the web since mozaic and netscape days.
The power key, just like the caps lock key, does not engage due to accidental short press unlike windows machines with the same keyboard layout.
dailyqt ยท -33 points ยท Posted at 18:23:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that you're citing Macs makes your case weaker, imho
Edit: Okay but seriously you guys, it was a joke. Also, the only reason most people ever use enter to invoke a carriage return is writing E-mails or posting on social media. URLs, filling out forms, leaving comments, entering information, emulation and coding are all cases in which enter is used to enter a command or information.
Perhaps you can cite some data on how often the key is used to invoke a carriage return vs. how often the key is used to enter a command.
dailyqt ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:08:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about the rest of the civilized world, but the only time I use the enter key to invoke a carriage return is pretty much when I'm on reddit or possibly posting something on facebook.
For literally everything else, I use it to enter information. Whether I'm filling out forms, creating accounts, typing a URL, sending a message or leaving a comment, hell even when I use it in emulating. Nine times out of ten it's to enter information or a command.
Edit: Please debate instead of downvoting, good lord
Google Docs, Microsoft Word, LibreOffice Writer, OpenOffice Writer, Google Slides, Microsoft PowerPoint, Microsoft Outlook, Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Notepad, Notepad++, Atom, Visual Studio, Dreamweaver, Adobe InDesign, VIM, Emacs, Pine...
I could go on.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are all variations of writing tools. I would list all of the apps/programs that involve using it to enter information, but I don't think anyone has that kind of time lmao.
What job do you have where you don't write? It's become a basic requirement for every job around here.
dailyqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:35:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've written a single E-mail(Actually now that I think of it I send about a dozen one sentence E-mails a day) since I got hired about 4 months ago. Most of the jobs in my city are with call centers, so here I am.
Hmm, I guess a call center could get by with one line fields but it sounds a bit odd for most applications. Usually internal notes are paragraph fields.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What jobs, besides creative/freelance, actually do require writing beyond E-mails?
The only tasks that are coming to my mind at the moment are things like writing notes, writing up a report, making a sign (e.g. I make some instructions or information and staple it to the wall), writing resumes and cover letters (important for getting the job), and probably more that I can't think of at the moment. Depending on the job, some might be things you do frequently and some might be things you don't do very often (writing an incident report for example).
The jobs that involve those kinds of tasks are numerous. The only jobs I know of around here that don't require writing skills are jobs that don't seem to expect or require you to have much communication skills at all (fast food for example).
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I think that every job has those things, but using enter to input information is something that everyone does hundreds of times a day whether or not they even have a job, on nearly every single app/program.
Yes, but keyboards were based off typewriters and the function of the typewriter was to write, not quite input information. The word is still used although in some cases it has different meaning.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that literally just saying that "return" is outdated? I know it used to be accurate, but it really isn't that accurate anymore.
"The fact that your siting Macs makes your case weaker, imho"
and I was referring to the first "your".
You first fixed the spelling mistake and said that "your" is still correct, made a snarky response, then realized it was still wrong and edited it again.
dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I had no idea that you cared so much about my every move. It's flattering I guess
Because Macintoshes are "pretend" computers with no industry uses, and people with real jobs use PCs, right?
Maybe consider that you're the one stuck in 2005?
dailyqt ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 19:00:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever actually used a Mac? Granted they're better for things like music/video editing, but for nearly any other purpose they're just not as good. For the price of one you can make your own really good PC. Also, fuck Apple for like, dozens of reasons.
Actually I prefer them to windows for doing any sort of programming (except writing windows desktop applications I guess). The reason is that OSX is actually a flavor of BSD which is basically unix (which is basically linux). This means that if you do any work in the terminal (and if you're writing code you probably want to be) then OSX is going to be more useful.
That being said I totally agree that Apple is a horrible company and fuck them.
Seriously though that's a good point, which I will admit to not knowing.
dailyqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:11:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for being civil haha. I didn't realize that, I've only done coding on a PC.
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dailyqt ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: Computers are literally only used for coding and literally nothing else
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dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See it's funny because although I'm not going to claim to be some coding master, I'm definitely not computer illiterate lmfao. I do plan on making my own PC when I'm not poor as fuck.
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dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God you have a superiority complex. Computer illiterate means, to most people, that you can't make simple fixes on your own computer. Please get off of your high horse before you fall xx
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dailyqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:46:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for being civil haha. I didn't realize that, I've only done coding on a PC.
Yup you definitely got that right.
Don't ever go into CS/CE or anything computer related, you will just waste your time.
Oops, sorry for not asking you first, because it's too late
Uh? I've used a Mac for the past five years. I studied computer engineering. Never once was there software I couldn't use. UNIX is just better for programming applications.
but for nearly any other purpose they're just not as good
name one
dailyqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:17:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely not browsing the internet, seeing as that's literally all that the Mac users I know do with their glorified laptops lmao.
Macs can literally do anything a Windows machine can do. And I mean "literally" in the literal sense. Including run Windows if you really need it for some reason.
Music/video isn't "better" on a Mac just like nothing else is "better" on Windows. They're just different UIs with some pros and cons mixed in. For example, if swapping parts, having a wider range of choices, or integrating with the Microsoft ecosystem is your thing, get a Windows machine. If never dealing with subsidized software out-of-the-box, not dealing with the higher risk of virus attacks, or integrating into the Apple ecosystem is your thing, get a Mac.
Hell, sometimes it just comes down to people preferring a UI design over the other.
This isn't 2005 anymore. That argument died a long time ago. So I guess I'll ask you the same question. Have you ever actually used a Mac?
dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For example, if [pro], [pro], or [debatable], get a Windows machine. If never dealing with [debatable], [you won't have this problem either way if you're not a dumbass], or [fuuuuuuck that], get a Mac.
Yes, I've used them a few times. I don't own one, but yeah, I've used them. It just feels like a shitty Windows.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not claiming to be an expert in the area, honestly I only really dislike the operating system. And Apple, but who does like them anyway?
By replacing every pro of a Mac with childish insults, you've essentially agreed with me that it's "personal preference". But of course you did it in the stupidest way you could possibly come up with.
Who likes Apple anyway? Only like hundreds of millions of people. But whatever.
It's pretty clear you're either incredibly immature or just trolling. Maybe both. Later.
dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know what? You're right. I'm going to convert to Apple. They're such a benevolent company. But yeah, later.
I missed the part where he told you to convert. Just buy what you want and be happy with it. Don't be a dick about it.
Hdmoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever actually used a Mac?
Have you? By the way "PC" means personal computer, so it's really a silly way to talk about Windows vs MacOS.
Your arguments remind me of myself in junior high, so I'll indulge you. Why are Macs "better" for music/video editing? Is it because of the software, like Garage Band? The truth is, video editing and music production need strong hardware, which every Mac lacks to some degree, up to the Mac Pro.
So with that myth covered, why do people use Macs? There's a few reasons. Most importantly, I suspect, is that it's a unix system! Once you get to know Unix (or variants), you'll understand why it's so much more powerful than Windows NT. Second, we've got the ecosystem. Sync your iPhone, iPad, iWatch, whatever, it "just works". The default apps are really nice. iMessage, FaceTime, Notes, etc, and with all that there's ease of use. And finally for Macbooks, portability/power is king.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While these are all fine and dandy, can I just point out
Sync your iPhone, iPad, iWatch, whatever, it "just works". The default apps are really nice. iMessage, FaceTime, Notes, etc,
all for the small price of $4000
Also, while I commend people that actually use it for its pros, the fact is that most people just use them for browsing the internet.
Hdmoney ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
all for the small price of $4000
They're fairly expensive, but that's an extreme exaggeration. The cost of a laptop isn't that much in the grand scheme of things, and if you want to shell out an extra couple hundred for a better user experience, then that's fine. For example, I've put over $150 into just my keyboard, and I couldn't be happier with it. It doesn't have built-in macros, it doesn't have a number pad, and it doesn't have RGB. Despite all that, it's better for me than any similarly priced product with those features.
Also, while I commend people that actually use it for its pros, the fact is that most people just use them for browsing the internet.
That's what everyone uses computers for, really. That's a non-argument from the start. Some people do work that needs strong hardware. Some people don't. What's important to both groups, is user experience.
Edit: I realized this point was a bit weak, so I'd like to iterate on that: I'd be willing to bet that that's what you do on your computer most of the time. For some reason though, you're upset that other people do that on Macs, because they're more expensive? Because you could build a better PC for the price? But most people on Macs are on MacBooks, and MacBook Airs at that. And you're right that a lot of people don't need the power that a Mac supplies, but the obvious counter-argument is ecosystem, portability, and UX. There's not a lot of competition there. Whether you like or can appreciate that is your own (albeit baseless) opinion.
I'd like to say at this point that, no, I never have, and likely never will use a Mac. I'm an avid Linux user.
I've since read your other comments, and I'd like to talk about them.
[MacOS] feels like a shitty Windows.
To me, this reads as "it's an operating system and I don't know how to use it." If you want to be "computer literate" like you say you are, you should learn Unix(-like) systems. That's all I really have to say about that.
Don't ever go into CS/CE or anything computer related, you will just waste your time.
Oops, sorry for not asking you first, because it's too late
Please tell me you're not anywhere near code.
fuck Apple for like, dozens of reasons.
I [...] dislike [...] Apple, but who does like them anyway?
[Apple is] such a benevolent company. [/s]
So, you really, really don't like Apple. But you're A-OK with Microsoft? I understand a lot of the problems with both companies, so I'd like to ask, what makes Apple worse than Microsoft? In my eyes, MS is the worse of the two, but I could be swayed.
Hit me.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, I've already said, like, dozens of times that I'm not an expert. You really don't need my permission to use a Mac, I promise. Bc I'm on mobile, I'll just respond to the points I can remember(don't really wanna go back and forth, y'know?)
1) For all of the things you listed, $4000 is modest lmao.
2) fuck it you can pay a thousand dollars to browse the internet, I suppose.
3) The computers at my last job we're all Linux. God I hated that job for a million reasons, but I reeaaaally disliked that goddamn operating system. To be fair, the computer in question was also an age-old Compaq, my monitor had to be from 2010, and I was only allowed to use Yahoo search.
4) God I'm so sorry for offending you, but I took a video game design class a while ago. 10/10 would take again if I had money.
5) Honestly, I don't even know that much about Microsoft, except that they're losing relevance, gaming-wise. Not great, not terrible. You might know more about them than I do. Apple is just so obviously immoral as fuck. Their products expire pretty much as soon as the next gen is scheduled to come out, their phones are like five years behind Androids, and the fucking headphone jack? They're like EA but with real life things. I shutter to think of how much debt they have floating over their customers.
Hdmoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, I've already said, like, dozens of times that I'm not an expert.
Then don't tout about the inferiority of products you know nothing about?
You really don't need my permission to use a Mac, I promise.
I don't use one, nor do I ever plan on it. If I do need to use MacOS, I can use a VM.
You don't have to buy every single Apple item just because you have a Mac.
You entirely missed the point.
Wow. Yikes.
Okay?
And again with the broad misinformed strokes that started all this in the first place. Please stop commenting about things you don't know about.
And no, I'm not offended. I'm just really not a fan of ignorance and the spread of misinformation.
I think I blew my mom's mind when I explained they were called 'return' on older keyboards because it stood in for the 'carriage return' on typewriters.
And that it found a home again in computer science terminology to refer to basically the same thing (though 'new line' is more common now, so I guess 'carriage return' is going out of style there too)
Rashaya ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:46:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows still uses \r\n rather than just \n, where \r is a carriage return and \n is a newline.
I spent a solid week of my summer sorting out a codebase with mixed line endings and indentation styles. It was such a clusterfuck that git/linters couldnโt even handle it until I manually fixed a bunch of files.
Oh lord dos2unix is an absolute lifesaver. Every grad intake at work there's a wave of broken bash scripts released to production and dos2unix gets its annual field trip.
Even most windows software happily detects and uses whatever the file uses, though I havenโt experimented with powershellโs utilities.
The most important use of DOS line endings Iโve found is when sending plain text to a HP laser printer, since it would correctly use \n and \r to mean move down and move back, so my Unix-format text file didnโt print properly. On the bright side it meant some old ASCII-art comics which relied on overprinting did print correctly.
The characters are called the carriage return and line feed. The reason is that, to continue on the next line, not only does the carriage head have to return (to the left) but you also have to feed one line of paper (vertically).
I have a program I use at work that dates from about 1989 and that has a message on it at one point that says "Press [CRET] to continue". So many young ones through our area see that and haven't a clue what it means.
Interestingly, my keyboard merely has the "Return Arrow" that simulates the direction the type-writer register would go when you press the button. Similarly, the "Shift" key only has an up arrow, and "Tab" is two arrows going opposite parallel directions. I bet this was more interesting for me to discover for myself than most people reading it, but well - there it is.
The lower arrow on the tab key points right because it indents text to the right, or goes to the next form field, when pressed without shift being held down. The upper arrow points left because it de-indents text to the left (at least in an IDE or word processor's list), or goes to the previous form field, when pressed with shift held down.
Well it was return short for carriage return which slid the carriage back to the starting position on a typewriter.
Whatโs really even more crazy is the code for ending a line and making a new line in many systems and code bases is called CR LF carriage return line feed. The CR part as a programming term is even based on the metaphor of the typewriter.
xiipaoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Enter" makes less sense than "return". The key inserts a newline and returns the cursor to the start; how is that "entering" anything? It's its other use, as the key to "enter" commands, that makes that name make sense.
That said, Mac keyboards have "return", with "enter" in small type above it to clear up confusion.
The only time I ever refer to it as a return key is when talking about returns. As in: "On reddit, you need to have two returns between lines for a line break to display properly."
it's okay. somehow i missed the retirement of the "apple" key on the mac, and i can't unlearn my keyboard shortcuts [apple+c, apple+v, shift+apple+4, etc].
Spear99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a computer running Windows, the Enter/Return key actually enters into the text editor โ\r\nโ or carriage-return new-line to tell the computer the line has ended. So calling it the return key isnโt actually wrong at all and still relevant.
I'm in tech support and I commonly refer to the characters as carriage returns when clarifying the input as opposed to the resulting html break.
Aggropop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They arent exactly the same though. Pressing the "enter" key will cause two things to happen (in most cases): a carriage return command (move to far left of the page) and a line feed (advance to next line below). Computers can still recognise both commands separately and this is still relevant when text is being transmitted serially. RS232 ain't going nowhere quick.
Retsyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I might be talking out my ass, but the "enter" written on it is above the arrow that indicates "carriage return" below. So the button should technically and pedantically hold the name "Return" as "Enter" is it's secondary function, and that is why the word is written above the <CR> arrow.
Can anyone confirm this? Because I'm so lazy I'll make up shit instead of Google it on my mobile.
drw16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's return in big text (and enter in small text) on macs
My keyboard actually still says "Return" on the key... and it's less than a year old.
Cal1gula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The invisible character that is created when you push that button is called a "carriage return". Your kids will understand once they are computer programmers.
The computers I used in the early 80s had return keys. I can remember when some said return and some said enter. Then that all gradually shifted as time went on.
I still call it the return key myself on occasion.
But I also call the $ a "string" symbol because of basic programming from the same time. So my usages are clearly irrelevant.
jetmark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Adobe graphics products, there is a distinction.
I tell people they need to put a carriage return in their documents. They have no idea what I mean.
I could understand if they were younger than me. But they're people who tell me about how they had to type their college papers on typewriters. I'm a good 15-30+ years younger than them.
"Taken aback" - This happens to a ship when the wind shifts and the sails are suddenly blown backward into the sailors' faces. The ship loses forward momentum.
"Learning the ropes" - when a new sailor literally learns which rope is connected to which part of the ship.
"Boarding" - Literally getting onto the boards of another ship. We still use this one to describe getting onto an airplane, when very few of them have any wooden parts.
Keeping things on an "even keel" - The keel is the lowermost part of a ship's hull. It's the part that runs down the middle and cuts through the water. Sailors want an even keel so that the ship stays on a smooth and steady course. Nowadays the term is used for any situation where people want to keep things smooth and steady.
"Limey" - Used as a semi-derogatory nickname for British sailors, who used limes and/or lime juice to prevent scurvy at sea. Nowadays it's a semi-derogatory nickname for all British people.
"groggy" - Grog was a mixture of rum and water that sailors drank. If you were groggy, you were either drunk on grog or hung over from the grog the night before. Nowadays we use it to describe being tired and fuzzy-headed.
"loose cannon" - Literally when a cannon wasn't secured in place and started crashing into things. Cannons were heavy pieces of solid iron with wheels, and if they weren't secured, they could roll/slide across a ship's deck whenever the ship leaned from side to side, and they could do some major damage to the ship and to the sailors. Nowadays this term describes a person who is unpredictable and likely to do damage wherever they go.
Terminology from old horse carriages is everywhere too:
"dashboard" - There was literally a board in front of the carriage driver to protect him from mud and gravel that "dashed" up against it from the horses' hooves. Now we use the word to describe any surface covered in controls, including on computer screens.
"hold your horses" - Self-explanatory, you hold the reins of the horses to slow them down.
Terminology from old machines:
to be "keyed up" or "wound up" - Referring to old clocks and clockwork machines that you sometimes had to wind up with a key.
"hanging up" a phone - Old phones, you had to hang up the earpiece when you were done.
"fired up" - Referring to steam engines, now people use it to refer to people being full of energy or starting up a piece of technology (whether it uses fire or not).
"upper case" and "lower case" - The individual metal letters used in a printing press were kept in cases - smaller letters in the lower case so they were in easy reach, larger letters in the upper case because they weren't used as much.
"stereotype" - This was a word used for identical copies of the same document, from the same printing press. Now we use it when we describe characteristics that we think are identical across whole social groups.
EDIT: Formatting.
EDIT2: Etymology corrections.
EDIT3: More sailing terms.
JaronK ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:10:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's worth noting, on "Limey", that limes don't have all that much vitamin C, and were useless for stopping scurvy. Lemons were what was effective. However, limes were cheaper, and when they were introduced sailing speeds had increased so much that scurvy wasn't really an issue anymore, so nobody noticed that the limes they were using weren't actually getting the job done anymore. Limes have about half the vitamin C of a lemon.
Very interesting. Something else on the topic of Vitamin C - I learned that sauerkraut is also a good source of Vitamin C, and Captain Cook had a lot of it on his ship, the Endeavor. Apparently raw cabbage has a little bit of Vitamin C, but sauerkraut has significantly more, as a byproduct of the bacteria involved in the fermentation process. A side benefit is that unlike citrus fruit, sauerkraut has a very long shelf life and will stay edible throughout a long sea voyage.
JaronK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, it is, and was a major way that some folks avoided Scurvy. Works a heck of a lot better than grog, that's for sure.
I was always told that because of the predominance of vessels with German-speaking sailors stocking sauerkraut to prevent scurvy, that was where the slur "kraut" originated for Germans.
But since Germany didn't exactly exist until 1870, and they weren't known for their Navy at that point, I'm not sure if this is true.
Car-face ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could have still been used to describe any sailors/people from that region, since the culture (and the foods) of that region, which comprise what is currently known as germany, have existed for centuries if not millenia.
What Iโm wondering is if limey is ever used for Scottish people, I thought it only referred to the English.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The story was even stranger than the lemons/limes idea might suggest. In the article "Scott and Scurvy", this was written:
". . . in 1860 . . . , naval authorities switched procurement from Mediterranean lemons to West Indian limes. The motives for this were mainly colonial - it was better to buy from British plantations than to continue importing lemons from Europe." Also, food preservation by heat processing in tin-lined cans had been introduced, but the procedure destroyed nearly all of the (then unknown) vitamin C in any citrus juices so preserved.
Thus, by the late 1800's the concept of citrus juice as a scurvy preventative was lost, and scurvy was thought to be a disease of bacterial contamination!
Maybe it refers to the British and their use of limes in the original โgin and tonicsโ the soldiers would mix their quinine (the bitter pill- used to fight malaria) with gin and lime to make it more palatable.
JaronK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it's definitely their use aboard ships for scurvy. It just wasn't something that worked.
I learned recently that "pipe down" is also a nautical term. Before the 1MC, they would use a pipe to signal that it was time for sailors to go below deck to go to bed. It also meant silence about the ship.
lol no, this makes about much sense as saying "the word top derives from the nautical term 'topsail'". These are all (formed from) inherited Germanic etymons that apply to whatever stand in these relationships, ship bits only incidentally. Humans obviously have always had to talk about things being before or after other things regardless of whether they are seafaring.
literally no one in this thread can figure out how to google "<WORD> etymology"
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:12:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After reading those three I scrolled down looking for someone to call bullshit. It made no fucking sense at all.
Fair point, I guess I got carried away with some of these. I should not have suggested that those words originated with sailing, just because they were used in the context of sailing.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:15:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair point? You just made that shit up. You were suggesting that humans had sophisticated seafaring before they had basic concepts of time.
I admitted my mistake and I corrected my original post. I removed the incorrect terms and added different ones that fit the parameters of the discussion. I did not mean to imply anything of the sort you suggested. I simply got carried away with that part of the list by mistakenly including terms that, while widely used in a sailing context, did not originate in a sailing context.
I mean, not humans necessarily, just Germanic speakers. And it's not like inconceivable that special nautical terms could have evolved and then replaced the prepositions/conjunctions that already existed. That's just not what actually happened. And this stuff is very easy to double-check.
On the fiddle: ships had square plates with a board around the edge called a fiddle. If you had more than your share, you were on the fiddle.
Cat out of the bag: refers to a punishment device called a cat o nine tails that was kept in a bag. When it was out of the bag, well, shits about to go down.
Tatts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shits about to go down - only if there's room to swing a cat.
Youโre incorrect about โforwardโ, โbeforeโ and โafterโ. The time/location meanings weโre used to are not derived from nautical terms for the front and rear of ships; the older roots (Old English, Danish, and Proto-Germanic) for directions just stayed in use for ships long after they fell out of direct use in other contexts.
For your etymology to work, English (before it was even English) would have had to develop the names of ship parts before developing words for physical and temporal directions.
"The story goes that cannonballs used to be stored aboard ship in piles, on a brass frame or tray called a 'monkey'. In very cold weather the brass would contract, spilling the cannonballs: hence very cold weather is 'cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey'."
I like โthree sheets to the windโ - when sailing, if a sail is to the wind it means itโs not been tied down. When all three are loose, youโve completely lost control of the ship
the sheets are actually the lines that trim the sails. when the sheets are loose or, "to the wind" it means that the sail is no longer tied down to the boat. on a sloop (standard single-mast sailboat with a fore and aft rig) there are three sheets, two jib sheets for the jib sail and one main sheet for the mainsail. if all three are loose, the sails aren't doing anything.
Also, ropes on ships are generally referred to as "lines". the only actual "rope" i can think of on a ship is a bell rope, which is used to ring the bell.
Very cool, I didn't know that. I just took a trip to Wikipedia and found out a little more:
"Old Grog" was Vice Admiral Edward Vernon. Apparently he introduced the drink into his own naval squadron, and they called him "Old Grog" because his coat was made of grogram cloth.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Waitaminnit . . .
You're going to tell us about the grogram cloth, but not about the rum order itself?
โThe daily allowance of half a pint a man is to be mixed with a quart of water, to be mixed in one Scuttled Butt kept for that purpose, . . ."
A 'scuttled butt' is a kind of cask with a lid, I believe. So the term "scuttlebutt", meaning shipboard rumor, relates to the talk between crewmen as they waited for their allotment of grog by the cask.
It gets better - one of Vernon's sailors retired to the Colonies, bought a plot of land and named it Mount Vernon in honour of his old Admiral. It was later sold to the Washington family.
And "grogram" cloth is a corruption of the French "grosgrain", a cheap, rough cloth which you wouldn't really expect an admiral to be wearing.
thejom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
west_pac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Steady as she goes" and "steady on" are an instruction to maintain course and speed.
"Full to the gunnals" means a ship has been loaded so heavily that the waterline is almost sitting at the gunwale, the uppermost edge of the hull. It can also refer to a load that is level with the gunwale.
"Fluke" is the part of an anchor that grabs the ground, doing so by pure chance.
"Above board" means on the open air top deck, not hiding anything down below.
"Barge in" referring to a barge, a special ship reserved for the Admiral to bring him from his ship to a port.
"By and large" - By means into the wind, while large means with the wind. "By and large" is used to indicate all possible situations "the ship handles well both by and large"
"Clean slate" - At the helm, the watch keeper would record details of speed, distances, headings, etc. on a slate. At the beginning of a new watch the slate would be wiped clean.
"Debunk" is the process of removing fuel from a vessel, stored in "bunkers". So to debunk something is to take fuel out of it, hence debunking an argument.
"Souwester" hat, an oilskin rain hat developed for seafaring which refers to a south westerly storm, the kind of weather that would often necessitate that kind of hat.
"Fetch" means to reach a mark without tacking (zig zagging), so in other words it means go directly to something in a straight line.
"Leeway" is the amount that a ship is blown leeward by the wind.
"Mainstay" is a "stay" (rope) that is analogous to the "cornerstone" of a building.
"No room to swing a cat" comes from the fact that the entire ship's company was expected to witness floggings, assembled on deck. If it was very crowded, the bosun might not have room to swing the "cat o' nine tails" (the whip).
"Overbearing" means to sail downwind directly at another ship, stealing the wind from its sails. See also "knock the wind out of their sails".
"Pipe down" was a signal on the bosun's pipe to signal the end of the day, requiring lights (and smoking pipes) to be extinguished and silence from the crew.
"Rummage sale" refers to rummage, the name for cargo and also the word for it's organization - it was originally done as a way of selling damaged cargo, you had to "rummage" (sort) it yourself.
"Under the weather" is serving a watch on the weather side of the ship, exposed to wind and spray.
In Australia Grog is still used to refer to alcohol
MrDaaark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget "freezing the balls off a brass monkey". A brass monkey is what would hold stacked cannonballs. When it got too cold the metal would condense and the stack would collapse.
Natcur ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:47:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here, have an upvote
anschelsc ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 21:13:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Romans used piles of pebbles as computation aids: a pebble in this pile means one, a pebble in that pile means ten, and so on. If you've ever used an abacus you can see how this would work. So the word for "pebble" began to be used more generally for any kind of counting or reckoning, and eventually just for computation in general.
So how do you say "pebble" in Latin? Well, the word for limestone was calx, which is the root of English words like "chalk" and "calcium". But if you had only a little bit of limestone--a pebble--you used the diminutive: calculus.
EDIT: Needless(?) to say, by the time what we now call "calculus" was being invented in the 17th century, no one was doing math by counting pebbles anymore. It was just a generic word for "solving a math problem".
That's really a coincidence. By the time derivatives and integral were being thought up no one was imagining literal pebbles, any more than you think of horses kicking mud up at you when you say "dashboard".
Like I said, it meant "computation in general". As late as the mid-19th century Boole was still using still using "a calculus" to mean "a system of calculation". It's only in modern times, as the generic term became less common, that we started to think of "calculus" as meaning specifically what used to be called "the differential and integral calculus".
There are lots of different calculii, not just the one involving derivatives and integrals. The full phrase for this calculus is actually "the calculus of infinitesimals." There's also the predicate calculus, lambda calculus, propositional calculus, and many more.
Demistr ยท 231 points ยท Posted at 22:45:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Czech republic we have a phrase "Dรกvej bacha", which means watch out
Originally it was used in 1850s when our country was under Austrian Hungary rule.
Bach was actually a persons name.
That person was chief of secret police.
So when people said "dรกvej Bacha" they would mean watch out for secret police. Today it just means watch out. Didnt lose all relevance but i still find it interesting.
Hope someone understands this despite my terrible english.
Third World. It emerged during the Cold War to refer to countries that were not allied with the United States (the First World) or the Soviet Union (the Second World). Today, we still use it to refer to less developed countries. It is one of those terms that is politically incorrect in the most literal sense, because it refers to a political situation that has not existed in almost 30 years.
Cold War is a twenty-four episode television documentary series about the Cold War that aired in 1998. It features interviews and footage of the events that shaped the tense relationships between the Soviet Union and the United States.
The series was produced by Pat Mitchell and Jeremy Isaacs, who had earlier in 1973 produced the World War II documentary series The World at War in a similar style.
The series was produced by Pat Mitchell and Jeremy Isaacs, who had earlier in 1973 produced the World War II documentary series The World at War in a similar style.
Thank you so much for this! Iโve been searching for tv shows or podcasts about the Cold War but havenโt really found too much of interest.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad someone found it useful! You are so welcome :))
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't wait to watch this, thank you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are very welcome!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in finals week in law school, where I have to wake up, study, take a test if I have one that day, study, sleep, repeat. So 24 hours of documentaries is just what I needed
Hijacking your comment to point out that the english version of third world lost the original meaning of the french expression "tiers-monde".
I'm going to simplify a lot but here we go:
Third world is a direct reference to the french "third estate", as in 1/3rd; the society before the revolution was organized in 3 orders: clergy, nobility and "workers", the so-called third state
In times of crisis, there was an extraordinary assembly called "Etats-Generaux" in which each order was represented, and the 1/3rd state only had as many deputies as the clergy and nobility until the revolution, yet it was the very large majority of the populationthey were bourgeois deputies for the most part but politically the equal of mere peasants
Emmanuel Joseph Sieyes thus wrote: โWhat is the Third Estate? Everything. What has it been hitherto in the political order? Nothing. What does it desire to be? Something.โ
The third world was an analogy, that 90% of the worlds population far outweighed the advanced nations in demography yet had no political say or access to wealth much like the third estate
There is no such thing as "first world", since "Third" is not a ranking but rather a fraction, and deliberately misrepresentative.
Hmmmm but yeah the term second world just morphed to mean countries in between third and first world. Because I am in China and Chinese people will routinely refer to China as a second world country.
As a kid born in 1989, I did wonder why I never heard about "second world countries" on the news. I assumed there was just nothing going on in those places worth talking about, but I figured they were countries less developed than us but more developed than Third World places. Learning this as an adult explained a lot.
as i remember it, second world really wasnt used all that much here in the states.
More often then not,soviet aligned nations were referred to as warsaw pact nations.
Well that answers a childhood question, I always wondered why things skipped from first world to third world. Is there something similar with the term "third party"? We never really use first party or second party.
The way I learned it in school (I live in Bosnia), although Second World doesn't really exist, Bosnia is considered a Second World country because we're still transitioning from socialism to capitalism. Although, Yugoslavia wasn't allied with the US or USSR, so that would technically make us Third World, as an ex-Yugoslavian country.
Porrick ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 18:40:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term has less to do with ideology than affiliation to an international sphere of influence. The USA didn't care about the democratic credentials of its allies, and nor did the USSR particularly care about the communist credentials of its ones. Both sides only cared whose team a given country was on.
Agreeing about ideology made team membership more comfortable, but it was a secondary concern.
Hust91 ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 19:33:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
US moved from 1st to 2nd for many in terms of living standards.
robdouth ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:54:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not true in any meaningful way. I know being in your country you tend to view your problems as horrible or bigger than they are, but if you visit truly poor countries, you realize that the poor in America are so much better off than the vast majority of the world in every meaningful and measurable way.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't expect more, but the floor of living standards in the US is so much higher than virtually anywhere else. You have to actively avoid the ability to be helped to truly be destitute in the US.
So, this might be a shock. Maybe there is a category between the truly advanced developed societies like the wealthier EU countries, Canada etc and the Congo.
Like there are plenty of countries that aren't absolute shit shows for everyone involved, that are really good if you're rich, and really suck if you're poor. Like the US.
We aren't a developing country. We do have an advanced economy. But we are not in the top tier of nations by basically any measure that means anything to real people. We're still in the second tier, don't get me wrong, but we're clearly not in the 1st
robdouth ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:37:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you arbitrarily draw the tiers to put the US in the second tier. Even in the areas we are deficient we are not so deficient as to not be comparable. We would have to provide some kinda evidence other than just saying we are second tier or second world.
All tiers are arbitrary, but we aren't in the top 20 or so nations in the world
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
top 20 in what though? I'm not trying to be a dick to you but we have been discussing generally in terms of "living standards" but what are we discussing? per capita GDP, because we are definitely top 20. Is it some kind of happiness index? Healthcare? if we start using specific numbers I feel like we have to talk about specific measures where we aren't top 20. Also if the difference between 1 and 20 is half a percent, then we also need to clarify the magnitude so we aren't quibbling over a rounding error in difference.
Education. Quality of life. Healthcare outcomes. Paternal leave. Infant mortality. Homicide. Violent crime. Social welfare programs. Minority rights. Human rights in general. Not being militaristic assholes. Rape. Hate crime. Income inequality. Press freedom. Privacy rights. Environmental cleanliness. Safe drinking water. Safe food to eat.
It's a big ass list. We aren't at the top of anything except for military expenditure and aggregate wealth held in a very unequal way.
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Infant mortality I've already explained previously in this sub. It's extremely misleading because the US is the best in caring for infants. If you have a baby born prematurely, you want it born in the US because it will get the best care period. Other countries write off babies born before a certain gestational period as stillborn and don't even bother counting it as "infant mortality" We can save babies born earlier than in any other country and pioneer those field. Healthcare is my background so at least on that one I know that the statistics are at best highly misleading if not outright wrong.
We also generally have better healthcare outcomes that most countries, but it's just not distributed in the same way other countries do it, which is why the WHO rankings ding the US. We would be ranked higher if we had worse outcomes but they were distributed more equally.
Education is clearly a problem, and we spend more in Education per pupil than any other country, so it's not a spending issue, but a standards issue. I've always been critical of the US when it comes to education though so I won't argue with you there.
Most of the rest of those are political issues. Press freedom is still high even if the President is battling with them, because they aren't being restricted. Battling with a politician does not equal no freedom. Safe drinking water is actually a silly one also, unless you are claiming that Flint, Michigan is representative of the entire country. That's a local problem, not a Federal issue.
You'll have to provide some kind of sources on the safe food to eat also, because that is different from people choosing to eat shitty food. Our food is just as safe as the rest of the developed world, and I've never even heard that cited as an issue. Homicide/violent crime/hate crime/rape are all basically the same issue in terms of crime numbers. The US has very different demographics than Europe and Japan though so comparing those is apples and oranges.
Also, for the aggregate wealth in a very unequal way, most people who cite those numbers don't actually explain what the underlying causes of it are. We have record numbers of single parent households. More and more kids are born to single mothers, who don't have the earning potential of dual income households. So by definition as the bottom grows in terms of sheer numbers, the gap between that increasingly large group of single parents and dual income households will grow.
People will incorrectly attribute it to the rich getting rich too quickly, but the facts are that single parent households have a very limited earning potential and we have more of them now than ever across all races. We can't return to the household incomes of the 1960s because we don't have the households of the 1960s. How can anyone expect a single mother with at most a high school degree to earn what two parents with college educations do? Inflation is further eroding that purchasing power, but that again ties to political issues of spending and reducing the power of the dollar.
As to our environment, if you are talking about signing onto environmental treaties, that's a different issue, but our specific environment is not more polluted than other 1st world countries. I understand if you are complaining about our commitment to global efforts, but that's not the same as saying our air quality and water quality are crappy.
http://aqicn.org/map/usa/#@g/18.5898/-31.1977/3z
This gives you a real time air quality map, to which the US is much better than most of the civilized world. The same is true of water quality with the problem being highly publicized issues in Flint and in Charleston West Virginia.
Again, we have real problems, but the magnitude of them is extremely overblown.
There are 195 recognized countries in the world. We are usually between 20-30 in a lot of rankings. 15-20 in the things were better at. In the 50s and 60s of things we arent. We aren't in the top 10%. How can you consider yourself top tier in that case?
We are tied for last in things like parental leave and legally guaranteed vacation.
We are a 2nd tier nation.
Hust91 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:56:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not from the US, I'm looking in from Scandinavia with a kind of slack-jawed sense of building terror at the regulations, the legalized bribes, the democracy that barely deserves the name (and doesn't, according to that one statistical study of how well the people's wants correlate with what congress does), the way of treating poor and mentally ill and the ubiquitous regulatory capture.
And honestly, the US seems a LOT closer to Russia or China than to Germany or Sweden in terms of social infrastructure (overburdened courts, justice system where your ability to get justice is limited by your wallet, etc) living standards and human rights.
And while I admit my bias, I would argue that those living in the US don't understand how bad they actually have it if they have not lived and worked here for at least a year.
So many issues that people in the US just consider facts of life seem like inhuman conditions that we solved decades ago and they somehow just... didn't.
Like some kind of parallel dimension where noone thought of antibiotics or lightbulbs and still die from infections and go to bed when the sun goes down, except it's in the field of democratic principles, human rights and economic science rather than concrete inventions.
And so many just seem to think that there's nothing that can be done about it and no better alternatives because they for some reason only compare themselves with dictatorships and feudal societies that don't even have industrialized agriculture, as if that makes the lack of antibiotics and light ok.
robdouth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:07:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well we aren't a democracy, but a republic, but a lot of your other concerns are valid. Some of the terrors you listed are a bit overblown and if the information you get about the US is mostly from Reddit, then it will definitely seem worse than it really is. Every problem is screamed at volume 11, but having lived in at least 3 different countries, the differences are much more minimal than people would have you believe. Healthcare is a very serious concern where the problems are not being overplayed, because of the cost of the care and the access problems that people have. However, we are also the country that is on the bleeding edge of this innovation in terms of cost. We spend a ton to advance healthcare/medicine etc, and therefore a lot to access it as well. I agree that European countries have designed a system for healthcare that is superior in many ways. I worry that the US culture would take a good system and bankrupt it because of our over-riding principles of individualism over community.
I've said it elsewhere on this thread, but look at the obesity epidemic and opioid crisis which are not crises in European countries. Look at the number of gun traumas which add to the basic cost of healthcare that European countries don't have to deal with. The US has some unique challenges, and a European style fix for healthcare may not work as well with all the other cultural/political problems we have. I don't know which direction the US will go once we get past this Trump chapter, but I don't have a lot of hope for it, because currently in the US, it's devolved to a pretty sad state and I don't see any reason for optimism in the near future.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I realize much is exaggeration, but the impression that the most crucial parts, that of the political system and how it is financed, is not exaggerated and that part is more terrifying than all the others put together because it is the most powerful nation on earth and its politicians are selected in large part based on who gets the most bribes to fund their reelection with.
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a blunt way of putting it, but the fact is that incumbency is what matters most. If you have the seat, it's hard to lose it due to gerrymandering the districts by both parties to maximize returns and as you said, how much money it takes to run an election campaign now.
This to me is one of the reasons I wish for a slightly more limited gov't. When it's gov't for sale to the highest bidder, the only solution IMO is to remove some of the power and push it back to the states (to make it closer to and therefore more accountable to the people), but neither party is very federalist anymore and they both want to do what they want to do with the national levers of power at the Federal level.
I am not optimistic either, but I think that all of this coming to a head in a Trump presidency can create a silver lining where the pendulum swings so far to one direction that we end up cleaning house as a result of this mess. Just like Hollywood is having to clean house after the sexual abuse scandals. It's ugly and terrifying to go through, but what comes out the other end, may actually be a better product. The real tragedy, however, is the setting back of racial relations and the civil tension in the US which isn't at the levels of the 1960's but probably is the worst it has been since then because civil discourse and bipartisanship wasn't as horrible through the 70s-2000s for the most part. But that was a kind of dรฉtente between two flare ups in the culture war.
Don't be too discouraged though, I still don't think every politician is as bad as their opponents make them out to be. It's easy to paint your political opponents as whores and shills, but inside those caricatures there is a person who I believe loves the country and if push comes to shove, most of them won't completely torpedo the country for their own ambitions alone, no matter what people may think. I am fully prepared to be wrong on that, but it's one of the things I hold onto for hope. Hopefully I'm not wrong, but we'll see. Have a good one brother.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:34:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great rebuttal. I'm glad you used facts and logic to refute his claims. /s
You won't win over anyone if this is your argument against the previous comment. This comment makes it seem like you're incapable of forming logical arguments and resort to ad hominem instead.
The floor of living standards in America is one of the lowest in the developed world, and for a long time America had much cheaper menial labour relative to capital than than the rest of the first world.
It is still better than โmost of the worldโ, but it is worse than countries which ought to be comparable.
but if you visit truly poor countries, you realize that the poor in America
But nobody is comparing US to some shithole in Africa. The comparison is between similar developed countries and economies.
robdouth ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:08:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I'm not, I'm responding directly to the specific comment:
US moved from 1st to 2nd for many in terms of living standards.
This is just demonstrably not true. We are still comparable with other 1st world countries. We may not compare favorably in every metric, but we still compare with them, not so far below them as to be 2nd world. That was my very narrow point. 2nd/3rd world has a very specific connotation, and when you see it, you understand that even if you think the US needs to improve, we are nowhere near 2nd/3rd world status.
Okay but maybe visit some of the more advanced European countries before you claim that the US is the best - being good but second-rate isn't something to be ashamed of, and that's where America is right now
robdouth ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:05:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you claim that the US is the best
I'm not claiming the US is the best. You are presenting two separate arguments. Our standard of living basement is higher than the vast majority of the world, with few exceptions. That's a completely different argument than saying that we are the best. I wouldn't argue we are the best, although I would need to see the data behind any meaningful list ranking these things.
For example, as a healthcare professional, we laugh at the WHO rankings of the US in terms of healthcare because it's extremely misleading in terms of infant mortality among other metrics. If you are ranked behind Cuba in infant mortality, you either have truly shitty healthcare, or someone is playing games with the numbers, and given the high quality of NICU services in this country, I can tell you for sure that it's not the former.
girl-lee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a genuine question and I'm not being at all facetious, does everyone have access to those high quality NICU services? Is there a possibility of not being able to afford to go to a hospital with those services available and instead having to go somewhere a bit worse? Or perhaps choosing to avoid a hospital birth altogether because of the prohibitive costs?
I think many of us saw the picture of the hospital bill after the birth of a baby that was on the front page a day or so ago. It just made me wonder.
robdouth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:35:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whether you Can "afford" them or not, you will be provided the service. Hospitals don't turn sick babies away from their ED unless they don't have a pediatric department. The hospital I work for covers tons of cases every year for which we get no reimbursement. Most major children's hospitals in metro areas do.
The hospital not getting reimbursed doesn't mean the service is free for those people - instead, they rack up debts they never will repay
robdouth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:40:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Much of the time, it's written off as bad debt from a hospital perspective and the family files for bankruptcy to get out of that debt. In fact, if your child has a rare disease, you are better off here in AZ, to lose your job and get on AHCCCS than to expect a private insurance to pay for it (if your kid has a rare blood factor disease or extremely expensive genetics infusions, etc.)
This is just another reason why the fee for service model we have is not ideal.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about people outside metro areas?
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they travel to metro areas usually to get that level of specialty care. If you live far from the major cities in California for example, you travel to CHLA, Stanford, UCLA, Rady's for specific children's specialty care. Just as in other countries though the better healthcare services will be provided where there are more patients.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:02 on January 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't seem quite feasible to travel for more than 4 hours if you're going into labor, does it?
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:07 on January 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't but women in rural areas do travel that far to have babies. Usually not 4+ hours, but I live in AZ and the people who have babies in Wickenburg drive the hour and a half into Phoenix to have babies. I'd imagine people a little further out have to drive further. You have an OB that is monitoring and they usually do things like induce for convenience also.
The number of babies being born 4+ hours from a metro area or otherwise capable facility are extremely minimal. You can go to a limited service hospital to have a baby also, however, if there are any complications, they will most likely be flown by helicopter to the nearest hospital with a full service NICU and Trauma center.
People find a way to make it work when they live out in the sticks. However, it's even less feasible to set up full service sub-specialty care like that out in the boonies. It would never be financially viable to have those kind of physical and personnel assets in a low volume area, and you wouldn't be able to find the specialized staff to provide those kinds of services out in the rural areas because largely those doctors don't want to live out in those areas.
edit: Changed babies in the first sentence to women for clarity.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:44:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans might want to get some perspective on how good the poor in the developed counties in Europe have it.
Hust91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Living in Europe, my perspective is naturally skewed - but the lack of rights and safety in the US puts the stories from it a lot closer in my mind to Russia or China than to Germany or Sweden in very many respects.
er-day ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's not too far off the mark. The United States ranks 1st in first in incarceration, not just per gdp but roughly double the next closest country in gross numbers. We're 14th in education, 2nd in ignorance, 101st in peace, 23rd in gender equality, 33rd in internet download speeds, 46th in freedom of the press, 26th in child well being, 24th in literacy, and 17th in happiness. The United States united states rarely breaks into the top 20 in any desirable trait for a country to have.
Now I understand that that would place us still in the top 10-20% of countries in the world, but when Iran and Russia are hot on our heels for healthcare efficiency and Tuvalu and San Marino (countries I've never heard of) are outpacing us by 7% in number of vaccinated citizens I start questions whether we are a first world country let alone a world leader.
But look on the bright side, we're 1st in olympic figure skating medals, 1st in plastic surgeons, 1st in the number of super rich, and 1st in wine consumption... so go us.
The only part of that I instantly objectively disagree with is saying the US isn't a world power. We have military installations on every continent except antarctica.
er-day ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:50:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I think I meant to say world "leader" not power.
Even that seem untrue considering that the US is one of only five nations with UN veto power. Might not be the leader but the US is a leader. At least a boss depending on your opinions to that regard.
er-day ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:02:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hardly think that the United State's position at the end of WW2, once the rest of the world was in tatters, and their ability to negotiate for a position in the United Nations that they created and refused to be apart of without veto power is evidence that we are a leader. I would agree that it makes us powerful, but I would like to think a leader is more than just someone who is powerful, in the same respect that I think few consider Donald Trump to be a Leader. He is powerful, yes, but hardly a leader.
Hence my addendum, we at least can and do boss people around. So if you mean leader like we work with the world to advance everyone, maybe depending on who you ask, but we certainly do have political control over the decisions of many other regions than our own.
Tuvalu and san Marino are both tiny with a combined population of approx 50k, so comparing vaccination rates to the USA is almost entirely meaningless.
er-day ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:59:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Large countries that outrank us: France, South Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Spain, Germany, Russia, Canada, The UK, Vietnam, Argentina... literally every large country besides Brazil. Would it be more helpful to say that the United States is within 1% and 2 places away from North Korea in population vaccinated? We are just shy of being surpassed by North Korea!! They have 25 million people and don't even have the internet!
How does one measure ignorance? Would you be measuring the lack of knowledge? Like a literacy test? Not trying to debate you, just curious if that's a real statistic or a joke you slipped in.
er-day ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reading into it myself now, "A survey of people's knowledge about their own country." and "Participants were asked a number of questions about their society, including their country's population, healthcare spending, home ownership and the proportion of Muslims living in their country. The findings were then collated to create the index.
Oh, ok. That's fair enough. I could see a good portion of the US easily thinking that 20% of our population is somehow illegal Mexican Muslims. It's interesting though. Back in the day, people were ignorant because they couldn't access books or other materials they might need to learn. But in the US, our ignorance seems to be a choice. We have the things we need to in order to not be ignorant, but we choose to be.
er-day ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would argue that makes us even worse. Its a sort of self inflicted censorship much like North Korea. Its the same reason our vaccination rates are abysmal.
Dude, I live in Poland, a country that was somewhat loosely tied to The USSR compared to Ukraine or Lithuania and even in here the quality of life is levels below The US.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:59 on January 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Now, they weren't part of the non-aligned movement which was founded by the leaders of Indonesia, Yugoslavia, India, and Ghana, so the distinction has Somme value for development purposes.
Not quite: the categorisation was economic and political, as Tito originally used the term, so the neutral developed capitalist nations were still lumped in with America and the PRC was counted alongside the USSR in their โworldโsโ, and each of them took โfirst worldโ to mean โusโ and โsecond worldโ to mean โthemโ.
Tito? As in Josip Broz? I always thought Alfred Sauvy coined the term, though I could be wrong.
zywrek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While neutrality was always our official stance (Sweden), we were working very closely with the US during the cold war (and still are). Mainly due to our competence in SIGINT (electronic and signal surveillance) and underwater ability. The baltic sea has very special characteristics, making it very hard to navigate and probe. Examples are varying salt levels and temperature, dividing the ocean into layers that makes it hard to scout.
Basically, nothing happens in the baltic sea without Swedish intelligence knowing about it. One interesting question though, is how we came to ally with the west, seeing as we are a very socialistic country. Even more so during the cold war..
First World was capitalist countries.
Second World was communist.
Third World referred specifically to the African and Asian nations that attempted to band together to form their own faction during the Cold War that would be outside US and Soviet influences. They even coined the term Third World for themselves. The league was pretty much made up of poor countries, which is why the term became generalized.
bgrimsle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:53:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, of course not. I'm guessing some young people who were not alive at the time are posting here. First World did not mean very close military ties with the US. It referred to all prosperous democracies. Western Europe, the US, Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, maybe a few others. Second World included all Communist dictatorships. All other countries were Third World. In the 70's someone proposed the term Fourth World for very poor Third World countries, but this did not catch on.
Yeah I was born in 89. I don't know how people actually used the terms at the time.
I just looked up the origin of "first world" and "third world" and applied logic based on how they were originally defined (NATO = First World, BLOC = Second World, All Others = Third World).
GOODFAM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To reinforce what another user said, the alliance was more of a shared ideology. Ireland and Sweden were not considered Third World because they're apart of Western Europe. On the other hand, Romania, Hungary, and all of the other countries that used to be part of the soviet bloc fall under the old definition of "Third World." With the exception of Greece.
This divide in Europe has been a phenomenon pre-dating the Cold War, and it still exists today. The only thing that's changed is how we label the others.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had always wondered what happened to the "Second World"... TIL! This post is a treasure trove of etymology factoids.
Well, Northern Ireland was pretty third-world what with all the armed conflict, military occupation, psedo-religious war, and terror bombings, but they finally settled down...in the late 1990s.
IngoVals ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, first world as they are NATO members, and Poland wouldnt be third world either since they were aligned with USSR but the second world countries were often called eastern bloc.
The archaic 1952 usage, not the modern usage. Sweden was officially neutral, aligning itself with neither NATO nor the Warsaw Pact, therefore it could be considered Third World.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of them are in fact poor, peasants even. However, I meant more that Australia and New Zealand are two prominent members of the "global north" and are about as far south as you can get besides Antarctica
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except they are literally the only major exceptions.
Some of South America is fairly well off but not on the same level as Europe and NA
Chile and Argentina are both in the "very high" category of the Human Development Index (a UN metric for determining this kind of thing and the closest thing to a quantitative "global north"), same category as the US, Canada, most EU countries, Australia etc so in a literal sense they are on the same level, and they're also the two southernmost countries in South America. Plus Buenos Aires is a pretty globally influential city.
Edit: Don't forget Singapore, South Korea, Brunei, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman and other wealthy Asian and middle eastern states
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chile GDP per capita is 13k, Argentina is 12.5k.
Germany is 40k, the UK is 39k the US is 59k.
They are still a ways behind even if they are catching up.
The question isn't whether they're on par with the US it's whether they're considered part of the "global north". Besides, GDP per capita is only one of many measures the HDI takes into account, including infrastructure, healthcare accessibility, political freedom and other metrics. In fact Chile has a higher score than Saudi Arabia, which is pretty widely accepted as a "developed country" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
This is correct. In my graduate school seminar in Demography and my seminar Globalization, I would say that global south/north was the most commonly used term in the literature followed by developed/developing. "Third world" was definitely criticized.
"Developed" and "developing" are outdated as well and puts countries on a scale that typically favors western capitalist countries. High, middle and low income is probably the closest/fairest.
tiny_son ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:47:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. It also creates a misconception that these "developing nations" don't have major cities, technology etc.
pjr10th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
High Income, Low Income and Newly Emerging Economies.
[deleted] ยท 489 points ยท Posted at 16:24:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then what do you call countries that aren't developing? I've always though of it more as:
First World = developed
Second World = developing (as in their economies are making strides towards being developed and standard of living is lower than first world--think Turkey or Brazil)
second world doesn't have a modern equivalent any more, and sub-saharan African countries aren't "undeveloped", they are less developed. They still have governments, economies, infrastructure, etc.
jimx117 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:39:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nightmare?
According to Barry White, there's nothing quite as sexy as the slither of a lady snake.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:07:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the lamia lover
Chrisl19 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:37:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also goesnon to say that a more accurate estimate was made and is actually 2000 to 4000 snakes, so unless the island is the size of a mansion it ia not 1 snake per square meter. Still waaayy to many for me to step foot on an island like that though.
ninjahhh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that was just in reference to one of the species that inhabits the island, the golden lancehead viper.
Dcjj ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:25:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the article reads as if the use "the snakes" to refer to the golden lancehead.
Well, if you keep reading the very same wiki article you linked you see that the current estimates are much lower than that.
The island was thought to have a population of about 430,000 snakes, but recent estimates are much lower. The first systematic study of the population of the golden lancehead found the population to be 2,000 to 4,000, concentrated almost entirely in the rainforest area of the island. This might have happened because there was a limited amount of resources and the population became level, but in 2015 an estimate by a herpetologist on a Discovery Channel documentary stated that the population remains at 2,000 to 4,000 golden lanceheads.
That paragraph specifically is talking about Golden Lancehead pit vipers which are an endangered species that are only indigenous to that island. However, there are many many other species of snakes as well leading to the estimate i highlighted.
Alaea ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:32:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The article only mentions 1 other species present, in small numbers.
I honestly donโt understand the continued survival of the snakes on that island. I know itโs an estimate on how many but if it was truly 1 per square meter shouldnโt they have all starved years ago? The rats and birds would die off pretty quick if that many snakes existed and they would starve right?
Yeah something like that. Or those uncontacted tribes that live deep in the Amazon that don't participate in modern society at all... but there isn't a whole country that has that level of seclusion.
cvinion ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:28:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except for sentinel island off of India. The sentineleese people have had no outside contact ever....
They've met foreigners and were reportedly quite friendly towards them until the 2004 tsunami. A large portion of the population was likely killed during that event and they subsequently became quite hostile to outsiders. This prevented the Indian government from officially contacting them, so they remain officially uncontacted.
Yeah something like that. Or those uncontacted tribes that live deep in the Amazon that don't participate in modern society at all... but there isn't a whole country that has that level of seclusion.
The term Global South and Global North are also used. As a geographer-in-training I prefer Global South/North because we can also use it when thinking about the United States (I can only talk specifically about this) but probably other countries as well.
"Despite the large spectrum of countries in the world," *draws line in sand * "all of you on this side are first world, and all of you on that side are third world."
Antarctica doesn't really seem to be going anywhere infrastructure-wise.
Of course I cancelled my subscription to 'The South Pole Gazette' because those "Doctor Performs own appendectomy" columns were outnumbered 6,000 to 1 by "Penguin Dad Jokes" columns. So who knows how many Starbucks they've got down there these days.
I was under the impression that the BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) were our modern day equivalent to second world. Is this correct?
Second world is still around, it's the (mostly) post-communist countries that have functioning, stable governments but aren't as developed as the West.
That's sort of like saying prussia is still around we just call it something different now. Without the cold war and the soviet union, there's no use for the term "second world", which is also one of the reason they're tying to phase out first and third world.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:04:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also feel like "third world" opens a lot of doors for ignorance, you know? Like suddenly all developing countries are as bad as the least developed countries. Developing implies there's progress being made in some way, while third world has more of a wasteland vibe to it. This is all subjective, but I do feel there's a bit of truth to it.
Current terminology for poor nations is "developing". Most non NATO and non PACT countries were poor which is why third world is seen as poor. However Sweden and Switzerland are both third world countries themselves.
Perhaps the 'politically correct' way to refer to them is with that, however I still use 1/2/3rd world references.
1st - developed.
2nd - mostly developed, still developing.
3rd - undeveloped/developing.
There's also a bunch of other factors at play, like citizen's rights, healthcare/welfare programs, and GDP.
Sweden and Switzerland would both be considered 1st world under this system.
They would certainly not be 3rd world. Unless you're using cold war definitions, where 2nd world is reserved for communists, 1st is for the west, and 3rd is everything else.
It is not so much a matter of being politically correct as much as avoiding confusion that your definition is not used in the circles of politics and academia. If you want to use your defenitions when talking to your neighbours over the fence go ahead and do that, but you can not expect anyone to understand that anyone beside you would understand what you are trying to communicate.
Because the cold war has lasting economic and geopolitical effects?
rtxan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:12:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you say that, but if you lived in a post-communist, now western-leaning country, you might've changed your mind. here, second world is used as a term to describe countries which remained under the Russian influence after the Soviet Union collapsed, as opposed to the countries who turned to west, and joined NATO and/or EU.
guess why we call such countries Second World..
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:38:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The idea that sub-Saharan Africa isn't developing is ridiculous. Places like Ethiopia and Nigeria have very high growth rates. Most of the continent is catching up - only a couple of exceptions like Zimbabwe aren't.
Vaulter1 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:46:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
only a couple of exceptions like Zimbabwe aren't
And it will be rather interesting to see if this changes in the future. Some people forget that in the early 90's Zim was seen as a shining success story for Africa and was labelled the "bread-basket of Africa" by some economists.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:03:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rhodesia was the bread basket of Africa, Zimbabwe is a different story
Actually he's right. Zimbabwe continued Rhodesia's economic success for a long period into Mugabe's rule. For a long while the UK provided aid to the country on the unwritten condition it didn't touch the white-owned farms until New Labour stopped the payments after 1997. In addition, Mugabe didn't want to hurt white people in Zimbabwe during South Africa's apartheid period, because it would strengthen the hand of the apartheid government to say "this is what happens when you give into black rule". Of course, after 1994 that wasn't an issue.
There is a degree at which an economy advances to and above a certain specified level of growth (~$20,000+ GDP per capita for developed countries), and therefore has "advanced to a specified degree"...which is the literal definition of the word "developed".
Iโm not sure what the person above is stating but I can share some issues with using the term โdevelopedโ and โdevelopingโ to describe countries- Iโm an econ major so I agree with those terms when discussing states from an economic standpoint but when it comes to policy making and trying to understand the world, it can have a really bad effect, mainly because the terms are so value-laden.
This terms imply that there is a linear progression to the ideal state and that one day we will all live in neoliberal democracies with similar structures, despite the cultural, traditional and structural differences that currently exist. It gives โDevelopedโ states an authority over others because if country X is developed it is obviously better than country Y, country X should thereby teach country Y how to be a better country. You can look up the history of the Structural Adjustment Programs in Africa to see how badly this can backfire.
It also dismisses the autonomy and successes of those states. You can see examples in this thread of unaware people stating there are areas that are completely undeveloped or are slowly developing, however the reality is those states have greater economic growth than many โdevelopedโ states. This idea has carry over, when politicians, NGOs or businesses discuss global relations they can have this in the back of their mind, it results in the perception these states need outside help and outside interference as they are unable to do it themselves; and maybe in some cases this is true. But when the interference ignores the local level of issues it will likely backfire or be less successful as even those trying to help donโt really understand the complexity of each states circumstances. By calling a state under-developed or developing it reinforces the idea that the state is unable and ignorant- and ignores any knowledge it does have.
But the commenter originally didn't refer to state, they referred to economies. They the person above chimed in and said "Referring to first world nations as developed is just silly." It isn't and that's not what was even being said. We're talking about economies, not national maturity.
That's true, I wouldn't say it's silly but I'd still argue 'developed' isn't the best term for describing economies, it implies that developed states are done improving.
Although we are quite literally discussing semantics and I guess the terminology is working for now.
Other essential components of development, like household electricity and safe water, are less widespread, but every area that isn't being actively destroyed by warfare is developing. Development is non- linear, with high tech existing in the midst of abject poverty, but communication can do as much to improve people's lives as anything. In fact, poor people themselves demonstrate how highly they value cell phones by buying them when basic necessities are scarce. They gain economic opportunity greater than the cost of cell service.
Vaulter1 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:47:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the most developed parts have an excellent mobile banking system.
Anecdotally, it's a damn sight better than it's been in the US until quite recently.
Edril ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:11:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sub-saharan Africa would definitely resent you saying they are not taking strides to become developed.
Kyle700 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:46:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sub Sahara Africa is most certainly not undeveloped. I mean, there are a rather large amount of people living in SSA. there are governments (albeit corrupt), commercial operations, towns etc etc. It's not really correct to say they are undeveloped. Maybe something like the far Canadian north or Antarctica.
iCUman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:42:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's true that even "underdeveloped" and "undeveloped" have given way to new terminology, but SSA is considered "undeveloped", or to use the updated terminology, "least developed country" (LDC). When someone is referring to an undeveloped economy, it doesn't mean that commerce doesn't exist, rather most commerce is centered around the harvesting of basic resources that are then transported to developed nations capable of converting those resources into finished goods.
Kyle700 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont know. I'm not sure I agree with this. SSA is quite big. How can you generalize the whole region like that? Espeically in 2017, I wouldn't consider almost any country "undeveloped", just varying levels of development.
Iโm not sure if you are trolling me or just stupid.
iCUman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:25 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I guess I must be stupid. Last I checked, there were 47 countries in Sub-Saharan Africa. One country being an emerging economy doesn't make the entire fucking continent emerging.
1312_143 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:04:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "First World" refers to so called developed, capitalist, industrial countries, roughly, a bloc of countries aligned with the United States after World War II, with more or less common political and economic interests: North America, Western Europe, Japan and Australia.
"Second World" refers to the former communist-socialist, industrial states, (formerly the Eastern bloc, the territory and sphere of influence of the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic) today: Russia, Eastern Europe (e.g., Poland) and some of the Turk States (e.g., Kazakhstan) as well as China.
"Third World" are all the other countries, today often used to roughly describe the developing countries of Africa, Asia and Latin America.
The term Third World includes as well capitalist (e.g., Venezuela) and communist (e.g., North Korea) countries, as very rich (e.g., Saudi Arabia) and very poor (e.g., Mali) countries.
Actually a lot of sub-saharan Africa is developing rapidly. They are starting from very far behind but most African economies are growing very quickly.
Sub-Saharan Africa is definitely developing. I don't know why you'd think it isn't.
maran999 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:38:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be surprised at how develloped some places in sub saharan Africa is. I mean of course, you still have slums rampant with disease, war, famine and no electricity, but there are also modern cities with an emerging middle class, even if it is comparatively small. Kenya comes to mind. Pretty much everywhere in Africa we are seeing some improvement, with a lot less people living in poverty.
ma-c ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are no countries not developing in this classification. If a country is not developed, its economy is changing (even if in shambles) hence developing.
almost every non-developed country on earth is experiencing development. There are certainly countries which are experiencing this phenomenon more intensely than others, but North Korea is probably the only country on earth that truly doesn't develop. Maybe a "failed state" like Somalia, but even that isn't truly accurate. Cell phones, cars, automated construction equipment, etc has made its way to almost every corner of the globe. The industry term for countries you're equivocating to the "third world" is "least developed countries" because it isn't accurate to call them undeveloped.
its just developed and developing, with the cut off point between the two being a country having a HDI (Human development index) of 800, which is a quantifiable difference as opposed to a gut feeling of "poor".
No, it's more like:
First World = Developed Countries
Second World = Developing Countries
Third World = Developinging Countries
MrCrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always though of it more as
well, you'd be incorrect, but language is always evolving. People can legitimately use literally as an intensifier for figurative subjects. Maybe someday you'll be right again.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So people can literally use literally in an non-literal sense? That's literally bananas!
MrCrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shudders
Gwinbar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bit of an euphemism, really. I believe the term used to be under-developed countries until they changed it to developing.
Saudi Arabia is a developed country and they are considered part of the classic Third World naming scheming. They are one of the last countries with a monarchy in place.
I think Brazil is classified as "newly industrialized".
MMantis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brazil would be considered a "newly industrialized" developing country, among several others, and that's a way you can make a distinction with the other developing countries that are a lot less developed.
I've took a developmental economics class and the term used was usually "emerging market/economy" for countries like India and developing for countries in sub-saharan Africa
This should definitely be the case. There are levels to "developing" - Vietnam, for example, is still a third world/developing country by definition but they are definitely on the up-and-up and are probably going to end First-World in maybe a few decades' time. South Africa is practically on the cusp on being First World, and actually are by some definitions - they have the infrastructure and industry of a first world country but are kept from officially obtaining that status by their overwhelming income inequality. Cambodia, in contrast, is one of the poorest nations on the planet.
All three of these countries are classed as "developing" but are at very different stages if it. The simple, two-option "developing/developed" classification has always struck me as being overly simplistic.
Nope, the modern term developing countries comes from someone wanting people to donate money to help with projects in those countries. When the term third world countries didn't really appeal to investors the term developing countries was coined.
Undeveloped countries is just a spin-off from developing countries and means the same thing. Second world doesn't have a word for it.
Some use "developed", "developing" and "under-developed" to distinguish between poor countries with growing economies and what one might call "a complete mess of a country".
But all of these are politically incorrect in their own way.
iCUman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a few theories in political science, but I always found the periphery theory to make the most sense. The relevant terms there are core (deveoped) - semi-periphery (underdeveloped) - periphery (undeveloped). The theory is geopolitical in nature (meaning that location is an important factor in political and economic development), so it's rare to have peripheral nations directly border core nations (since the mere proximity to a core would transfer economic benefits that would typically propel a peripheral nation into the semi-periphery).
The exception here is eastern Europe, but it's also a good test for the theory. Most of these economies are only ~30 years old, and their progress over that time has far surpassed what most peripherals are capable of accomplishing in the same period.
So a couple of issues: first and foremost, I think there is a strong case to be made that all countries are changing (whether they are "developing" implies a sort of positive movement, and to avoid arguments about what actually is a "positive" change, I would just use the word change). There are very few countries that are sedentary, so the real issue is not that there are "developing countries" that are not developing, but rather so-called "developed countries" that continue to change. The idea that a country is "developed" implies that it has reached some sort of "end goal" and a cease of changes, which I do not think anybody would say about the United States or European countries that are commonly called "developed." They continue to change (for better or for worse), and a better set of terms (better than 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world or the prevailing "Developed vs. Developing") would more adequately reflect those changes.
Secondly and somewhat building off that, both the "1st, 2nd, and 3rd World" and "Developed vs. Developing" nomenclatures have obvious issues that stem from paternalistic and imperialistic sentiments. But the specific names of "1st, 2nd, and 3rd World" come from a (paternalistic and imperialistic) characterization of the world into the U.S. and their allies, the U.S.S.R. and their allies, and the non-white people of the world. The "meaning" of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd World has changed a bit (although I don't think anyone really will use the terms in the way you're describing) and -- as the original comment pointed out -- the "2nd world" has fallen out of favor because the U.S.S.R. and their allies have fallen apart.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there are no losers, only winners who haven't got there yet
now drink your warm milk and go to bed, little Billy
Nobody wants to call the large bottom tier "undeveloped", so they are called "developing". At this point in history, there are just a handful in the middle tier, so the tier is called by its collective members: BRICS(+TM).
When I was deployed we had people working on the base from different middle eastern countries and they were called TCN's which stands for third country national. So while your definition makes sense and is less insulting that's not how the term is used.
I believe the third in TCN was literally referring to them being from an outside country (not Iraq/Afghanistan or part of coalition forces). A third party. Not a third world country.
Back in elementary school I remember Canada was a 2nd world country and only the US and England and maybe one other were 1st world countries. Not sure where Canada stands now.
Actually, from what I understand from my friends who study international development, these terms are now politically incorrect. Developed indicates a hierarchy, as if developed countries 'have it all figured out' and developing countries are just struggling to catch up. I believe 'majority world' is the new term as these countries make up the majority of the world's people and land.
Don't get me wrong, those things (and others) absolutely gave us the advantage to begin with. But if rich countries buy all the poor countries' raw materials for a pittance, turn those materials into turbines and aeroplanes and laptops (all of which, as you're right to point out, are important if you want to get rich), and sell those manufactured goods back to them at x10 the price, then they'll always be giving more money to us than they're keeping for themselves to spend on hospitals and schools.
Obviously that's just a tl;dr of a huge body of theory that leaves out a whole bunch of nuances and grey areas, and it doesn't mean that rich countries are evil for taking advantage of the opportunities they've had in the past, but it's hard to deny that when it comes to 'development', the deck is stacked against countries that are already poor.
majinspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not what I see. I see vast wealth of natural resources being far more valuable than the labor of the people.
In such a situation a leader can be outrageously wealthy if they just control that resource. The people, to such a leader, are merely a problem to solve with bread and circuses or military force. The wealth of modern democracies is largely in their people. In many other places, it isn't.
We're going over this right now and the three core developmental stages are less developed(third world/Ethiopia/Iran ) newly industrializes(second world/Mexico/China ) and more developed(first world/USA/Sweden)
Cerres ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The in between is called โnewly developed/industrialized countriesโ
StePK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I usually hear "Global North" for developed countries and "Global South" for developing.
majinspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This all feels like attempts to obscure an inescapable truth: Countries that are rich, stable, democratic, mostly free market and generally follow the rule of law, and countries that are poor, corrupt, undemocratic, unstable, and don't have generally free markets.
Developing/Developed are too simple though. What happens when a country regresses? Or what if parts of it are not very developed, but other parts are new and modern like India and China?
Literally every country is developing by definition. Some are more developed or developing at a different rate but every country is developing to some extent. We aren't sat here in the West thinking 'gee we've reached end-stage civilization let's not develop any new things'.
majinspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think developing and developed is worse. It's such bullshit, as if no development is occurring in the West because we've already reached peak development. Yeah fuck it guys, let's not develop any more - let's just stay put and stagnate.
Developing seems rather optimistic. What if it is not improving? It is better to describe where a country is now instead of trying to predict the future.
I work in public health and now our preferred term is low- and middle-income countries as opposed to developing.
Log7152 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow just today I had a geography class on developed and developing countries and my teacher said that those were the replacement terms for first world and third. If there aren't really second world countries anymore then it doesn't make sense to have third ones. What a coincidence.
We now have high, medium, and low income countries.
The Global South isn't fond of being referred to as developing so we try to avoid the term. It's less-developed countries or LDCs if you must.
They're defined terms, they've been assigned new specific meaning so you don't have to use 2 sentences to describe the exact level development the country you're referring to has.
It's about infrastructure. Developing nations literally don't have some of the necessary infrastructure that they need, like roads and hospitals and running water in parts of the country
I mean it kind of is. It's based off of the industrial base and the Human Development Index. Infrastructure and buildings are how you get from A to B. If there was money to make these thing, they'd be made and money would be generated. Development and infrastructure is the physical representation of money
I graduated from school in germany two years ago and my teacher actually discussed this topic. She told us about the history of the term and we discussed if it is a term you should use or not.
The more common terms in use now that were made to replace the outdated 1st/3rd world are the Global North (developed countries) and the Global South (developing/undeveloped countries).
I've heard the likes of Brazil or Venezuela, countries that are mostly developed and modernized but plagued with political and economic strife, referred to as 'second world'
april9th ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mao's Three Worlds Theory and the west's 'Three Worlds Model' are actually two different things even if they use similar terminology.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I was one of the only people aware of this. It has always irked me when people say "third world" as a more politically-correct version of "poor." Or say some shit like, "Estonia is actually a developed first-world nation!"
But now that I see this as a top comment on a popular r/AskReddit thread, I can rest assured most people will be bringing it up any chance they get in about a year or so. Thank you... sort of.
zuul99 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:50:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Global North and Global South is like an all encompassing terms. In between are the BRIC(S) Brazil, Russia, India, China (disagree btw) a South Africa (Although often left out). These are states who have rapidly growing economies and future world powers but still lack the basic necessities to be part of the Global North.
Although China is a weird one. The Free Economic Zones (I.e. Hong Kong, Macau) are much different than the rest of China. But as a whole, China carries more weight than Brazil. China has veto power, Brazil does not.
The term is still relevant, its used to described developing countries but also to describe China. China is described among political scientists as a "first world" in cities and "third world" in rural areas. With China having both elements, its politcal culture becomes very complex... And sadly confusing.
Hmm. I thought it went 'Old World' = Europe, 'New World' meant North America, and so the remainder were all lumped together as the 'Third World', primarily being those countries not belonging to and benefitting from the western expansion across the Atlantic into the Americas.
Siorac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was my impression, too! Are we definitely wrong?
I dunno. To Wikipedia, Batman! We have research to do!
Silaor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:46:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have any proof and I'm probably biased because it's my first language, but I always thought it came from french:
In french, Third World is said "Tiers Monde" instead of "Troisiรจme Monde".
"Tiers" has the same meanings as "Troisiรจme" but is mostly used for fractions : a third = un tiers, two thirds = deux tiers, etc. "Troisiรจme" for position or ordering : Third law of robotics = "Troisiรจme loi de la robotique".
But in old fashioned french, you can find Tiers used to express ordering. One such instance is the French Revolution, where Louis XVI, seeing the country fall apart, called for the "รtats Gรฉnรฉraux" : a call for representatives of all french people to gather. These representatives where divided in three categories : "Noblesse", representing people with titles, "Clergรฉ", representing religious powers, and "Tiers รtat" : the others (from rich merchants to farm hands),those that don't really matter.
So when I heard of third world countries (pays du Tiers Monde), I always took it to mean "Those who are not powerful enough to matter", like the "Tiers รtat" wasn't supposed to.
Donโt forget there is also a concept of the Fourth World. Peoples or cultures that donโt have a national state. Kurdistan comes to mind and the forth world concept might be applicable for Native Americans.
According to this they check one criteria but not all. So I suppose no. But, Iโm no expert in this area. My area of expertise is oversleeping, eating hamburgers and avoiding arduous tasks at work.
No no. They would largely just not be part of the equation.
The OP is wrong about the definition of third world. Third world would be post-colonial countries.... which obviously Sweden and Switzerland are not...
april9th ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One refers to First World West/NATO, Second World Socialist/Warsaw Pact, and Third World Unaligned States. This wasn't just an 'other' category, the 'third world' led by states like Yugoslavia, Sweden, and others did try to forge a path for these states.
The term you're thinking of has more in common with Mao's Three Worlds Theory, which splits the world into a First World of superpowers, a Second World of lesser states, and a Third World of exploited states.
Funnily enough, what we use today in terms of 'third world' is closer to Mao's definition than our own.
Huge pet peeve of mine is when people use "third world" just to refer to poor countries. Like you said, the term never had to do with a country's income.
I thought it had something to do with first person/second person/third person.
First person = "We" = We the western world opposed to communism
Second person = "You" = You the communist world we're stopping
Third person = "They" = We will protect them in the non-allied world from you
I can't immediately find anything to support this online, all the top google hits are just explaining that it came from the cold war era (duh). But it kinda makes sense and I'm not immediately finding any other explanations.
Can anyone out there confirm or deny that's what it came from? Wouldn't be surprised either way.
Wow - I grew up & became an adult in what turned out to be the end of the Cold War, yet I did not know this is where "third world" came from. I thought it was entirely about economics, i.e. "third world" were the ones that were still developing their economies.
Cue "The More You Know" logo (which I also grew up with LOL)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not being old enough during the 80's and 90's this is interesting.
I was taught that it referred to the economic sector the country fell into; raw material collection / farming (3rd world), production and industrial (2nd world) , and finally service based economies (1st world).
And it's basically a claim of superiority over the 'third-world'; basically a new term for 'savage'.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, from what I recall, second world refers to countries that are under the influence of, or are communist. I think that too is a dated term. China has democratic (ish) city spheres that operate nearer to the US or European countries, in addition to a few others.
I would get into Cuba, but my opinion would be biased, not by origin of myself, but in regards to the immigration interventions and enforcement I have been a part of.
I've also noticed a lot of people use it to differentiate between European nations and everyone else with the exception of a few wealthier countries. Even then, they still tend to exclude Slavic and Balkan countries too from the rest of Europe as being "third-world". So in other words it's just become another way to assert certain Europeans/Americans as "superior".
Just like the Left/Right political spectrum harks back to revolutionary France.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer "third world" because "developing" is misleading. Most countries on Earth have been developing forever, and will probably never become "developed" in our lifetime.
You hinted at it when you said "developed", but I believe the sociological terms becoming more popular are developed, developing, underdeveloped, and oil-rich countries.
I recall, in college, using the term โThird Worldโ talking about a documentary on poverty I had seen and one of our professors from the Philippines happened to be walking by and he chewed me out for the term. โWhat world are you talking about?โ
I never really used it again. Itโs probably better to remember we all live in the same world.
It kills me that I can't find a reference to this, but before the third world name became popular, it was in comparison to the old world (firmly established nations) and the new world (newly developed nations).
imlow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in the 80s and was taught that the world ranking was based entirely upon how developed a country was, based on a number of criteria such as mortality, access to healthcare, education, etc.
I distinctly recall a table in a Geography textbook listing out countries and how they were classified, based on how many of the criteria they met. All Western European countries, the US, Canada, Australia, etc were First World, the USSR, a number of Central and South American, and some Asian were Second World and virtually all African and most Asian were considered Third World.
nels5104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So North Korea isnโt third world at all!
iCy619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you.
I've wondered for too long, what a "second world country" would be/is.
Too lazy for Google, I figured it would be a TIL eventially.
I think that there's also the term 4th world. which referred to places that that were semi-countries. territories not controlled by a governing body, or not recognized by other countries. not 100% on this, so don't quote me on it
As many have pointed out, this one definition of a set of terms used by different people in recent history. Our usage is more in line with Mao's references to exploited states.
I find it so bizarre that when I was in elementary and high school (80s to mid-90s), none of my teachers new what the whole First World/Third World thing meant. I remember it getting asked at least a couple of times, and the best response we were given was that the First World represented developed nations like the U.S., Japan, or France (as examples). The Third World, we were told, were poor and undeveloped nations like Ethiopia (at the time). The Second World was considered developing nations, which fell somewhere in the middle.
I honestly believed this explanation for years after I finished high school until I read something in the mid-2000s that actually explained the real meaning.
Chaff5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was always under the impression that first world meant nuclear power and industrial and third world was neither industrial or nuclear. Second world would industrial non- nuclear.
uhlayna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex (from the Netherlands) says that Europe is first world, US is second world. I'd say questionable/localized education but pretty sure it's just assholery.
The term "developing countries" is the correct term for what people mean when they say "third world". I mean Switzerland is (or rather was) technically part of third world, but that's not what people mean...
Thank you for this. I remember learning about the โsecond worldโ in the 1980s. I was explaining this to some much younger colleagues recently and they had no idea what I was talking about. I think it was somewhat outdated even when I learned it.
limmme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In swedish we use the terms I-country and U-country for industrial (industri) country and development (utvecklings) country. Refering to countrys being pre or post an industrial revolution.
This isn't true at all. It refers to parts of the world that are not part of the Old World (Europe/Asia/Mediterranean) or the New World (Americas), but the 3rd world.
jn2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
toeonly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like we may be headed back into a cold war. So this term might come back to its original meaning., or more likely we will come up with a new term for the uninvolved parties.
Russia is working as hard as it can to recreate that same political situation. I think its still appropriate to refer to Russia as 2nd world.. i mean.. they aren't 1st world in terms of economics, politics, or social.
Bullshit. Define something and say it's wrong. That may have been the definition 70 years ago but hasn't been the def. for the last three decades. There are still 3rd world and 4th world countries. Knock the shit out.
I worked in a movie theater about 8 years ago and we used film still. It was a bitch to thread but such a cool experience!
Nerdn1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad worked as a projectionist before everything went (mostly) digital. I remember those huge platters. For really popular new releases they had to run the film feeding out of one projector to another one so they could be viewed in multiple theaters at once (I don't recall how many projectors they could put together like this).
liamemsa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:14:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(I don't recall how many projectors they could put together like this)
Theoretically infinite, or the total number of theaters within the building, if there were the appropriate rollers installed.
Usually, though, this would just be run between the three or four "big screen" theaters (the ones in the middle that housed the best equipment for the newest releases) whereas the other, smaller theaters would be playing the other films.
Films that required multi screen simultaneous plays were once a decade style films. Lord of the Rings, Phantom Menace, etc. There aren't too many of them.
Pirates of the Caribbean on opening night, my friend was a projectionist doing this setup. About 20 minutes in, the film snapped. I and several hundred people had to get refunds. He said it was a nightmare.
liamemsa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's surprising that a brain wrap would have caused a show cancellation. Usually unless there's significant damage it can be repaired in like 5 minutes.
Now, dropping a film, that's a show cancellation (might as well cancel all of the shows for the rest of the day as well).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can get just the development for $4. Still outpriced for me. I get a kit for about $30 and can crank out about 20 rolls from it. I do the scans myself.
Lots of people still use film! Famous directors, photographers, even hobbyists. Come on over to [r/analog](reddit.com/r/analog) to check out the film photography community!
Cygnus- ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:33:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only use film, I like the vintage quality it has.
I work at a gift shop for tourist place where we sell disposable cameras for people that forgot their cameras or whatever.
Sometimes kids come in ask what those are, and I like to ask them if theyโve ever seen one, and approximately 1/20 of them will say yes. The rest will ask me how you use them and how you know if the pictures came out looking good.
Those lucky kids donโt know.
robdouth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the only time I see people handling actual film is in suspenseful movies when it's done by the killer or some creepy weirdo in the movie. It's just an excuse to shoot the creepy character in a red light IMO.
I still use film in my older camera on slim occasions if that helps. CVS still develops it though it's not 1hr anymore it takes a week because not enough people use it so they got rid of their developing station.
I actually worked with a real film reel a few years ago. My grandfather's wife had found some home movies he made on a family vacation and thought my grandmother would want to have them, so they sent the film and projector to us. For some reason my parents thought I'd know how to work the stuff because I'm "real into the technology stuff," so they put me to work on setting it up for my grandmother's birthday party.
csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has nothing to do with that. Ever wonder why we have releases of old movies in 1080p and they look fantastic? It's because film has no limitation to its resolution. Compare that to TV, where it's only fairly recently that they're all recorded in HD. Before that, it was all tape. Try to find Everybody Loves Raymond in anything better than 480p. Doesn't exist.
Actually this isn't true. There is a chemical resolution. Otherwise you could just film the sky and zoom in until you got a clear shot of a rock on the moon.
This guy gets it. An 8mm reel of film won't have the same resolution as a 35mm reel of film, which won't have the same resolution as IMAX or 65mm. Also, saying that old releases of films in 1080p look fantastic is pretty subjective. Not saying I don't like how they look because I do, but they look great because they were shot by professionals and scans of them probably don't look as great as the original prints did when being projected.
35mm movie film is about 5 megapixels while 1080p is 2 megapixels, so it should look good. When they start going to 4K thats 8 megapixels and either we will see grain or they will have to process the noise out.
It's because film has no limitation to its resolution.
First: videotape wasn't "digital," and the reason that old TV looks worse than old film is entirely economic: old film was projected at room size, and so filmmakers needed to pay for a reasonable resolution in order for their work to look decent. TV was sent over an analog signal with 480 scanlines, interlaced, and displayed on tiny, fuzzy screens, and so it made no economic sense to shoot at any higher resolution.
(And 1080p and 4k releases of old films have a ton of manual work done to clean up the film -- it's not like they can just scan the film and slap it on a Blu-Ray.)
Second: the grain in film creates a practical "resolution," although the pixel-equivalents are stochastically placed rather than gridded. IIRC, for 35mm film you can get a practical resolution equivalent to 50-80 megapixels. The latest generations of 35mm digital still cameras are edging into that range. (Motion cameras are a bit behind, but the latest RED cameras are close.) We're still a long way away from getting a film-equivalent digital medium or large format camera; IIRC, medium format film gets you around 480 megapixel equivalent, and the highest resolution MF digital camera I know of is Phase One's 100MP.
Incidentally, the latest digital cameras also have better dynamic range than film.
Third: you hit optical limits, hard. I shoot a lot with a 5DS R, and it is really hard to actually get the optics to resolve down to single pixels: if nothing else, the plane of acceptable focus becomes incredibly thin -- like, thin enough that if I'm shooting a hummingbird in profile, in bright sunlight where I can stop the aperture down, I can focus on either his beak or his eye, but not both at the same time. You also need really good optics before you're limited by the plane of focus. Again, for medium and large format, you can still get a much better result from film, and more cheaply.
Basically, claiming 35mm film is "better" than digital isn't quite as inaccurate as claiming that vinyl is "better" than CDs, but in a few more years there won't be any non-hipster reason to shoot 35mm film. Medium format and (especially) large format film are likely to remain "superior" to digital for a long time, but they have fundamental limits as well.
I never said tape was digital, I don't know why you have that in quotes. Or that film was better. I guess I would have been more accurate saying that film scales better? I was just trying to succinctly explain why it wasn't a "retro hipster" thing. I don't know as as you on the subject, but I do know that many directors prefer film over digital formats.
I saw an episode of The Gadget Show (UK) where they took an analogue image and blew it up to the size of a house, and did the same with a super fancy digital camera. Resolution on the film was better... Realistically though, you're unlikely to NEED that level of detail all of the time, and the film is bloody expensive.
jimicus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film does have a resolution, but it's in grain rather than pixels. Grain isn't uniformly square like pixels are, and so tends to look rather better.
snoopybg ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SLRs, fair play, but Iโm not sure that you can get a digital point and shoot that performs as well as a film one because of the limitations in sensor size. With film, the sensor is the film itself so a 35mm SLR has the same sensor as a 35mm point and shoot.
jimicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
35mm point and shoots (mostly) had terrible lenses.
snoopybg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you trying to convince me consumer film cameras record a better image than a modern 4k dslr?
Thatโs not what Iโm saying there. Iโm saying that point and shoots have better โsensorsโ with film because the sensor is the film itself. So itโs the same whether you shoot an SLR or a point and shoot. Whereas with digital you can have a full frame DSLR and a point and shoot with very different sensors. So with digital, point and shoots have shit sensors when compared to DSLRs, but with film itโs all equal across the board.
It's like vinyl, more expensive and inconvenient than its digital counterpart but can produce a higher quality end result and is more appealing to the hobbyist.
Not really. Digital is technically better in every way. The problem is in the mixing - digital is often mixed at full volume, which results in clipping. Vinyl is often (but not always) mixed at a lower volume, which means more dynamic range.
The tactile feel of vinyl is something people like, though.
You're talking about mixing during recording yes? Then why is there a notable difference between analog and digital versions of the same song/album that use the same mix?
Some studios do things differently for each medium. Vinyl is considered more audiophile, so it might get a different mix. In reality, digital has a full 96db range, vs 70-80ish dB for vinyl. Most recording equipment hits 80ish dB max anyhow.
That's awesome that you develop and process your own film. I've always thought it would be an incredibly fulfilling experience to develop your own pictures.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:28:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a dark bag and my bathroom for most of my processing. About $100 upfront but the. Itโs around $1 a roll to develop. Itโs very satisfying and I can push my ISO to some crazy limits. 6400 tri-x BW. Looks a little grainy but not bad.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the light is very low it does loose a lot. I usually shoot with street lights and those give me a good range. I donโt expect much from 6400 though.
Let's be honest though, that "gain in popularity" is a teeny-tiny bump in an otherwise steep decline.
As in, a couple dozen of the several thousand feature films produced all over the world every year are still shot on film, and maybe it was one dozen more in 2017.
Including in actual films. The trend moved towards digital for a while, but film is coming back again. For example, Wonder Woman was predominantly shot on 35mm
3D less so as it's really tricky to get that to work with film. Much easier in digital. And IMAX do still have their 70mm cameras, but they're mostly used by Nolan. IMAX have a digital camera now, and Arri has one they call Arri65, which is a digital format akin to 65mm film resolution
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The front staff down at the Ritz Camera a few cities away looked at me confused when I asked them where their film was a few months back. They had no clue if they even sold film. At a photography store.
Just no. A couple dozen movies per year are shot on film all over the world, but thousands are shot digitally.
I'm aware that people are saying "film is coming back" all over the place, but put into perspective, that really is just maybe one dozen more this year than last year - again, versus thousands shot digitally.
edit: feel free to prove me wrong if you feel the need to downvote this.
It's not the same volume, but the trend was almost entirely digital for a while. Film is starting to come back a little, but, you're right, in that digital is still the predominant format. Especially since the Arri Alexa camera has come such a long way now, including a mini version, which is great for attaching to people, vehicles, etc
It's not the same volume, but the trend was almost entirely digital for a while. From is starting to come back a little
no - the transition was obviously not suddenly, but film nosedived quickly after the advent of the Alexa in particular. That never changed; if anything, there was said tiny bump in an otherwise steep downward curve for film, which is now celebrated as "film coming back". It's not coming back, it died a tiny bit slower in 2017 than in 2016.
I work in video production, and we say "filming" all the time. "Video-ing" is not a suitable replacement, recording could be but it is not universally understood. "Shooting" is format agnostic - could be a film or video shoot. However saying the word "shoot" or "shooting" unfortunately now has negative connotations. If someone walks up to a security guard at a business and says "I am here to shoot the CEO" is may not end well. If the same person says "I am here to film the CEO" that is well-understood. So in this case we use the old-timey word because it has universal understanding, despite being technically incorrect.
And many art house theaters pride themselves on showing films. A local one had a 70mm festival recently. And they always list what format a movie is showing on and usually post online when they add a new film reel to their collection.
jb4334 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a ton from film grandfathered into the digital age: cut, rolling, mark, flick, film, print, highlight reel, trailers (they used to be played after the film).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I volunteer for a teen science program, and last year the instructor asked the students "how many of you have seen a real floppy disk?" One or two excitedly said "I have!" The vast majority never have.
But then, the weird thing about that program is realizing you're having conversations about calculus with someone born after 9/11, so realizing most teens haven't seen a floppy disk is usually the least of it.
enigmical ยท 1750 points ยท Posted at 16:58:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn kids can't even answer "Where were you on 9/11?"
HaroldSax ยท 2193 points ยท Posted at 17:12:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ais5174 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would be much more sound if he was in Wisconsin and 12.
rlowens ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:54:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, either in both his dad's balls and his mom's ovaries or just his mom's ovaries: men make sperm from scratch as-needed, women are born with all the eggs they will ever have.
So unless he was born around 9 months after 9/11, he was an egg in his mom's ovaries and a glint in his dad's eye.
Isn't one of your mom's eggs a way more likely answer? Men make sperm but women have a set number of eggs. I guess it's doesn't quite roll off the tongue as well.
That's a sizable enough gap, I feel bad for parents who conceived right around 9/11 and have the opposite of a cute "World Series Champions Cubs baby" story.
It's even worse than that: sperm expire and are produced. Many of them didn't even exist in that form on 9/11. However, eggs don't, and you're born with your entire supply. So only 50% of them existed.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:08:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is irrelevant, but I never understand why people make the joke that we started off as sperm, rather than as an egg. I mean, both are incorrect ,yes, but, they're EGGS. Unfertilized eggs, and yet we joke that we were all semen cells first. I wasn't no damn sperm cell, fuck off.
Half your chromosomes came from a sperm cell and half came from an egg. If you want to be really technical, you started off as a "zygote" or an egg that has been fertilized by a sperm.
radwimp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:37:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mitochondria tip the balance in favor of identifying as the egg imo.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because men really like to talk about their dicks and anything related to them
My oldest was literally conceived the week before 9/11. When she was born they were clearing out the whole wing expecting a huge rush of post 9/11 babies. They had 25 rooms with up to 2 mothers for each room.
There seems to be one of those moments about every 20 years, at least among people I've talked about this with. For my grandparents in the 40's it was Pearl Harbor. In the 60's it was JFK assassination, my mom and grandma watched it on tv together. In the 80's it was the Challenger disaster. Again my mom watched it happen live on tv but this time in a library with about 100 kids and several other teachers. The majority of school aged kids and teachers in this country probably watched that live. The 2000's was 9/11.
Every country has their own, I'm sure the nightclub terrorist shooting in Paris is on that level for them, but this is roughly the American ones in my opinion.
Cyno01 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:09:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is probably a better generational divide than anything arbitrary. If you remember where you were when X happened, youre part of Y generation. For boomers its probably JFK, for millennials its probably 9/11, whatever before us (gen Y?) the Berlin Wall coming down...
Nah so millennials are gen Y. Before that is X then baby boomers then greatest generation then lost generation. "Gen z" is people born post 2000. So Berlin wall was Xers. Think about every 20 years.
Edit: ok so i checked out the total list. From oldest to newest it's lost generation(ww1), greatest generation/G.I. generation(came of age in depression, fought in ww2), silent generation(born in g depression, some were in ww2, most on Korean and many in vietnam), baby boomers (post ww2),gen X, millenials, gen z
Gavooon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:38:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait I was born post 2000 and I donโt remember the Berlin Wall
gen z is probably boston marathon bombing for americans?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Columbine was pretty close to gen z and they certainly felt the after-effect on that... that said the Columbia disaster was 2003, Virginia Tech was 2007, Katrina was 2005 (relevant for some areas), Sandy Hook was 2012... If we're talking wordwide the 2015 Paris Attacks, the Coup in Turkey, North Korean nuclear arming, and Fukushima to name a few.
No it wasnโt really a catastrophe or anything so I it wasnโt that big of a deal besides the obvious. There hasnโt been anything significant for Gen Z to remember yet. Me personally, didnโt even hear about the Orlando shooting until about a week until after it happened.
From what,i saw the cut off of millenial was 2000beacuse it's supposed to be people wh o were born around the turn of millennium. Also a generation is about 20 years
I wonder was there one before Pearl Harbor, like the Lusitania or the Titanic? Maybe not due to the speed of information? Abraham Lincoln? Shot heard round the world?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:27:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Titanic probably wouldn't have worked, it wasn't a real time event and the way news traveled would have taken days to fully circulate across the US.
Japan bombs the USA on the other hand spread like wildfire.
Does anyone really ask this question? I never hear older people talking to one another and hear this question. I think it's more of a meme than an actual question real people ask.
I asked this of a 16 year old recently and he said- โI was at the doctors, because when I was a newborn I had problems pooping so the doctor had to massage the poop out of meโ
People my age have answers to this, even here in Australia, but I have no idea. I was 8 years old. I was probably off playing Spyro and not interested in watching the news.
VIIIMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We recently hired a deckhand that just turned 18. The other day I hear him talking to one of the other deckhands about something he did "back in the day". I thought to myself, "what the fuck is "back in the day" for this guy? When I think of "back in the day", I'm thinking 1984 to 1988.
I started college in 2004, and still had a floppy drive in the laptop I got for that which I had until 2008. Though I believe I only used it because I got a floppy disk of games from my cousin at one point that included Tetris!
Fazzeh ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:21:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My school still used floppies in the DT department when I was doing my GCSEs (so like 6 years ago?) but that was less a case of floppies being current and more DT having one piece of ancient tech that was only compatible with floppy disks.
TruIsou ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:22:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was last class in university to use punch cards. Went to PDP-11's after that. Used slide rules in high school.
Fazzeh ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 20:28:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was it hard getting to school with all the dinosaurs blocking the road?
I did DT, literally every piece of equipment was ancient.
Cyno01 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:10:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If i could find a USB floppy drive i could mount internally i would have one in my rig just cuz.
Divio42 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:16:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found an external floppy drive in the old storage closet at work the other day. It still fucking worked.
evilf23 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:18:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still use floppys at work. one of our CNC machines is running an old DOS based firmware and only accepts 3.5" floppy discs to save Z code programs. We tried to upgrade it to accept a USB 2.0 flash drive but none of the conversion kits i tried worked, so we went and bought a brand new 3.5" floppy drive in 2017. It's really, really difficult to find new 3.5" floppy discs, and they go bad pretty quick due to the environment being full extreme dust and heat.
Graduated high school in 2000. We were taught a lot of weird stuff. We all used floppies. Pluto was a planet. We were taught that we had to learn cursive, because no college professor would accept a typed paper.
Heck, my first flash drive was 128 Megabytes, and cost $80.
Zip drives, Jazz Drives, etc.
I actually skipped Blu Rays, because I felt that we were going post-physical on media. I had an argument about this with a friend when the PS3 came out. He told me that there was no way that Blu Ray was going anywhere. I told him 5-10 years tops, and here we are....
I grew up with VHS and the switch to DVD. My family never got on board with blu-ray and as an adult Ive never had a reason to own a dvd or blu-ray player. Crazy what changes in 22 years.
I was having a conversation with a coworker about movies, and when he offered to let me borrow a couple, I declined because I've never had a blu ray player before and never really wanted one. Except that was a lie because I own an Xbox One... Never even considered that until then, and I bought the thing years ago haha.
...still buying blurays every other week because streaming isn't lossless and Comcast can't get their shit together long enough for me to watch more than 10 seconds at a time?
Seriously though, I still buy media all the time. The reason is shit disappears from Netflix, Crunchyroll, Amazon, Hulu, etc., but my discs don't. Said services also almost never tell you the length of their license, so you can't even properly plan out a few dozen series to watch, otherwise before you know it your 100 episode series you decided to watch after the one you're currently watching is going away at the end of the month, and you have no hope of ever watching it all before then.
I can also rip blurays to my PC so physical damage won't be a thing either, then use handbrake to compress them so my entire library fits on one external drive. Then I stream them using Plex which doesn't rely on my shitty ISP to give me good bandwidth as long as I'm in the house...So, yeah I guess I "skipped" bluray by buying them and converting them? IDK.
Elubious ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:55:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even know where we can go from downloading and streaming. What if we started putting movies in some sort of box, we can use some sort of tape moving quickly and light to project that image onto a larger screen.
Netflix does use x265, or at least they tried since it's named in their benchmarks. Streaming has some constraints that you don't need to worry about when ripping (not that these are also true for BluRays, with the only exception being the bitrate limit that can be higher):
The bitrate can't go over a specific "burst" value, at best averaged over a few seconds. This is because you want to allow cheap devices to play your stream correctly without needing to buffer too much (memory requirement and time requirement)
The average bitrate also needs to be smaller than the transmission speed so you can play it in real time, similar to the previous point.
You want to allow people to jump through the stream easily, which means mostly not requiring to download and decode 10 seconds of content to start playing at a random location. This means you're going to use a smaller GOP (group of pictures), and usually force an I-frame every second, which reduces efficiency. Rips can get away with 10 seconds between I-frames, which is going to make random access slower but you might not care much.
BR and streaming needs to be compatible for hardware players, which imposes additional restrictions, some mentioned above like the bitrate, but also resolution, chroma subsampling, color depth, frame rate, number of reference frames, etc.
Though I want to say this doesn't excuse at all why pirate rips suck so bad lately, obviously the bitrate is to blame but it's surprising that the average 1080p rip size has been divided by 4 instead of like improving the quality of it. You can do a very good stream with 4k and x264, the bitrate will be huge but it is possible (though many hardware players won't play it). x265 can hardly achieve real time HEVC coding for 4k, but it's something to blame on HEVC itself I think. There are things you can't easily parallelize so you lose a lot of efficiency.
I'm well aware . also yes , "typical" common pirated rips are shit .
I don't download from "typical" places though lol .
And modern video cards and the latest Intel and amd cpus and latest mobile SOC's can hardware decode hevc .
But IMHO streaming is just not close yet . The quality and espeicallyt he sound quality that comes from a PHYSICAL blueray is better then netflix's supposed 4k streaming .
I'm disappointed by the supbar encoding on many BluRays, but they are still superior to any streaming option (or even illegal option that isn't the full ISO), though it may change once 4k streaming becomes mainstream. From my own experience BluRay > Netflix > Amazon Prime > ..... > Youtube
It's funny... I'm not. Probably because I'm older and grew up with tube TVs and 400 line resolution. I can appreciate a high end sci fi or fantasy movie at really high res, but most other movies are just fine at lower res for me.
Shoot, come to think of it, I think I remember seeing 8" floppies too. Dad was an engineer and had to use a lot of legacy software from the 70s and 80s (this was in the 90s).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
5.25โ and 8โ are โfloppyโ floppies.
The 1.2 MB 5.25โ was king when I was first into computers. I still have my SQ IV (greatest game) and KQ V sets.
My computer science teacher had some 8" for show back in the early 90s, and we had 3.5" in high school. I cut my teeth on 5.25" on an Apple 2c as a child.
35, and I do remember using them in elementary school. You had to lower a small lever on the drive to secure the disk. I never got why 3.5" were called "floppy" because they are rigid and stiff.
I bought an unopened box of 5.25" floppies at a thrift store years ago just to own a piece of mint condition history.
I remember a project in 5th grade where we were required to bring our work to school on floppy disks, but my family had just gotten a brand new PC that didn't have a floppy drive. I think we ended up spending $60 on like a 4 GB thumb drive.
I had to beg my mom for one when I was in high school because it would make carrying files around so much easier. I got one for my birthday and was stoked. Was a 32GB. Was pretty pricey back in the mid-aughts.
I got a job at Walmart in the electronics department in early 2001. Digital cameras were just starting to become affordable at this point, and they all used either CompactFlash or SmartMedia cards. We sold two sizes, 32MB were $50 and 64MB were $100. Literally thousands of times more expensive than what you can buy today.
I remember paying $125 for a 1GB Compact Flash card in 2003. A GIGABYTE! Massive!
USB sticks would have been amazing in college (98-02). We had ZIP disks (or remember JAZ disks that were larger capacity?). Obnoxious because they were never prevalent enough to be anything but external drives.
I remember in high school all the computers had floppy disks, but my dad gave me a 64mb usb key - it was awesome, but windows 98 didn't have a driver, so I first found a universal usb mass storage driver, kept that on a floppy disk and I would install it whenever I wanted to use the USB key. I got in shit every time I went to plug it in because the librarian couldn't understand what I needed at the back of the computer.
Harddrives used to be rarities. Computers first came with no storage at all, the first drives were floppy drives.
I never used cassettes though, I don't know how they were addressed.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:42:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then where is the OS stored? Or was there no OS at all, it would only run whatever floppy was in? The first computer I had ran on DOS, so Iโm not familiar with earlier setups
My first computer, you'd insert the DOS disk while the system was off, press the power button, and the computer would load the operating system from the floppy.
Then, if I planned on using an application that used the mouse, I'd have to load the mouse driver from a floppy, too. So I'd insert that, type A:\mouse, and that'd load the mouse driver into the Operating System.
Then I'd finally have to insert the floppy for the application I wanted to run (usually Carmen Sandiego or Wolfenstein 3D) and launch that the same way.
It was a rush.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:52:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But without a hard drive, where are you loading the mouse driver, etc to? Was it all stored in RAM?
The BIOS/UEFI are in charge of launching the OS. Thereโs a boot loader in a specific location that gets read. That in turn loads the OS and then that executes the boot of the OS and it loads.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Memory is dealt with in pages. So if you need more data than the available RAM, itโs a little more intricate, but the oldest page of memory gets sent to disk. Then new data is loaded.
Thereโs a threshold and data pages that havenโt been accessed after X time or after Y limit is reached, get dumped.
When you need data that was pages out, a page from RAM is sent to disk and the old page from disk is loaded to RAM where it can be accessed.
That operation is why you ideally donโt want a system to swap and want more RAM.
True, but at least it can directly address the RAM and doesn't need to go through a drive controller to get its data. And you have random access.
wildgift ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There wasn't a mouse. There were some hardware devices supported by the BIOS. I think they were they keyboard, floppy disk, hard disk, video card, serial ports, printer port. So the BIOS would bring up enough of the computer to start the boot process, and could load from the MBR on the floppy, or hand off to a card (which could then boot from the hard disk).
I should also add that, early on, many hard disks had specialized controller cards. So even the BIOS support for hard disks was bypassed. Later, IDE drives became popular, and the BIOS booted those directly, like we do today.
you'd load the OS from floppy, and it'd remain in volatile memory until it wasn't needed anymore
wildgift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cassettes predated the IBM PC. The main systems that used cassettes were Atari 400 and 800, Commodore Pet, Vic 20 and 64, Apple I and II, TI 994/A, Sinclair ZX81, TRS-80 and Color Computer.
I know of them... I've just never used them, and I don't know how they were used. As far as I know you set up a terminal to listen and played it through, so you wouldn't address it in a DOS anyway.
Because the "permanent disk" as you call it, didn't show up in DOS computers until long after the floppy disk. Hard drives were extremely expensive add ons. The first hard drive for PCs was introduced in 1980. In 1979, the first 1GB hard drive was introduced by IBM. It cost $40K and was the size of a refrigerator. In 1980, the first PC hard drive was introduced, and cost $1400 and was 5MB. In 1983, IBM introduced the PET, the first personal computer that came standard with a hard drive. It was $5000 (in 1983 money, which would be about $12,000 today!) and came with a whopping 128K of RAM and a 10MB hard drive!
Allso, DOS, the precursor to windows, was programmed using sensibilities of people who were looking at one of the major computer OSes that preceded it... CP/M.
One more weird tidbit: The first 40MB drives exposed a weird quirk of DOS... 32MB was the maximum partition size. If you had a 40MB drive, you had the choice of either splitting it or losing 8MB. I had an 80MB drive on my Atari ST, and had to split it into 3 drives. I had a 32MB C: a 32MB D: and a 16MB E: drive.
To be more specific the issue comes from FAT, a very simple partition type that was very limited. FAT32 ended up solving most issues, with the main annoyance that started showing up was the 4GB file size limit.
hbk1966 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:12:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because early PC's didn't really have permanent disk drives because they were incredibly expensive. You would insert a floppy with the software you wanted to run. For example the Commodore 64 didn't get a hard disk drive till about 2 years after it launched.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not if they didnโt exist, lol.
Photog77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would guess that it has to do with defaults in your computer's bios selecting which drive to boot from. When the defaults got set computers still had floppy drives and there was a good chance people were still booting from floppies.
I've also encountered software that wouldn't let you install it anywhere not on the c:. Then the industry got to big to make a non-critical change.
I still find it a pain when I want to safe files not on the c:. I like to keep my photos/documnets on a drive not with my OS, apparently that's weird.
30, and I remember A drives but not B drives. I always wondered why the drives go A, C, D and skipped B. Was the B drive another 3.5" floppy drive or was it used for those 5.25" disks I barely remember?
You could plug either type into either floppy port, I had a 286 where A: was 5.25" and B: was 3.5" (as I didn't get that drive until later, so being able to access 3.5" was an amazing novelty). It also had a 20MB MFM hard disk at C:, and later another 20MB hard disk at D: recovered from another machine. At one point I also had a two-slot Bernoulli Box that took 8" cartridges with 20MB capacity, plugged into the parallel port.
There's really no reason they would. They've never used an A: drive in their lives. It's second nature to us err.... seasoned computer users... yeah! Seasoned!
I started very young with 5 1/4" floppies. We got a 3 1/2" drive around the time I started hearing about hard disks (what we now just call hard drives).
It took a while for me to figure out that 3 1/2" weren't hard disks, even though they started printing 'HD' on them at some point.
Edit: Yes, I know the HD on floppies stands for High Density and I understand the difference between standard density and high density. It was simply irrelevant to my comment so I didn't tack it on.
Over the summer, I had a tech support internship at a local company working on their computers. One of the laptops still had a My Briefcase link on the desktop. It was Windows 10, so the feature was removed and it acted as a regular folder. Still neat to see.
Just wait until some greybeard whips out a floppy old 8-incher right in front of you.
Ultie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:55:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend and I have been rewatching the old Futurama episodes. While the writing is still hilarious, I find myself laughing more at the outdated tech of the year 3000. Super chunky monitors, robots backed up on floppies, ect.
At first I was extremely confused - I watched Futurama in college and I'm not THAT old (27) - but then it hit me. Damn show started in 1999. Zip drives weren't even a thing - big ol' external hard drives were SUPER expensive and had barely any storage by today's standards. Hell, the first digital camera were just hitting the market and were only 1 mega pixel. When my mom bought one, she was specifically told by the camera dealer that digital cameras would not catch on. Now you can't find anyone to develop film.
I'm 35 and got into tech early (though not nearly as early as children do now). Got our first family computer when I was 8, and it was the top of the line model because it included a whopping 1.44MB 3.5" diskette drive. Before that I had been using Apple IIs with 5.25" diskettes. Never worked actively with the 8" version, although we did have a Commodore and a TI-4/99 that stored their programs on cassette.
I still carry both an external and an internal 3.5" floppy, although most of my diagnostic utilities are WinPE images I have to burn to CD or thumb drive. But sometimes you run across an old systems controller and the only diags that will run on it are on floppy.
Dlj529 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:49:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 19 and I've never seen a floppy. (I don't think)
kirkom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:24:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 21, my brother is 19, and it's like we grew up in totally different worlds. I remember using Netscape Navigator, AskJeeves, and floppy disks - all totally foreign to him.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 22 and I remember having to use floppy disks to put documents and pictures on.. That's really odd lol
Serious question, but did you grow up in a smaller town? I think that for a while it took smaller/remote towns to "catch up". In 2009 I drove to Anchorage, Alaska and the people I met there were amazed at my Tom Tom GPS.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Trinidadian, so you could say that LOL
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trinidad is in the Caribbean tho =p
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All good haha
efkey189 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 23 and I remember using 3,5" floppy through elementary school grades 1-5. We stored some poems and pictures in there to watch at home. We even had to bring and donate 3 pieces to school every year for our school projects of sorts. That was fun. I guess we were far behind after 1989(Slovakia, Eastern Europe).
I recently built a PC for the first time and intentionally installed a 3.5 floppy drive to confuse people.
McDog3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:53:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really just goes to show how rapidly technology evolves. Those three years can make all the difference between tech being commonplace and obsoleted.
She let us use flash drives the next semester for the next class. All my other classes used a website to upload our projects to, but for some reason that one teacher wanted the 3 1/2in floppies.
I know there was a famous programmer (I want to say it was Dijkstra?) that said programming should not be taught on computers. Maybe your professor was a less strict relative of his?
Wait, you can actually fit a Java program on one of those things? /s.
FiliaDei ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:00:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 22 and I remember playing the original Oregon Trail on a floppy with our giant clunker computer (which, at the time, was quite modern). I was already far more used to CDs, though.
Oregon trail is universal no matter your age. By the time I was in elementary school, Windows 7 was hitting the market, and we still played it using Dosbox.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:40:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 23, and I remember both the mini floppies and the big floppies. We had some old video games that were on the big ones, and my middle school sold the 3.5" floppies in the library for like 25ยข each through at least 2008.
einTier ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in my twenties when the transition happened. It happened very fast.
The original G3 iMac in 1998 was the first factory PC I'd ever seen that didn't have a floppy drive. I couldn't imagine how that would work. There was too much software that required a floppy drive at least for the initial install, particularly operating systems.
But they had already been largely obsolete for a long time, we just didn't have a better solution. The largest ones could only hold a megabyte and a half and files were routinely exceeding that size, making them difficult to move off one system and onto another. Zip drives and Superdisk and a few others proliferated around this time, but it was CD-Rs and usb keys that eventually sounded the death knell for the old floppy.
I purchased my first home in 2001 and built a custom PC shortly after. I remember putting in the floppy drives and wondering if I was ever going to use them. I never did, other than reading old floppies I had stored. The PC that came after it in 2004 didn't have one at all and I didn't miss it. From the time of "they're everywhere and you have to have them" to "no one is putting them in PCs now" was no more than five or six years. The time between "I use them at least a few times a week" to "I can't remember the last time I used one" was even shorter, maybe three years. In comparison, the ditching of optical media seems very slow.
I'm 26 and don't think I ever used a floppy myself as anything other than a coaster. The 3.5" floppies make great coasters, btw. I still have a bunch of CDs, but I'm in the process of backing them up to my hard drive. I think most of my old games are free now, though.
All the computers at school were set up so that students didn't need to know how to use a floppy (either the systems were prepped before class or the programs were done as a full install so the disk wasn't necessary, I'm not sure) and my dad was an early adopter of CDs.
Elubious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 21 and when I was a child we had some around and used them once in a while. I also remember my parents referring to DVDs as a fad on our way to Blockbuster to get VHS tapes. Oh how times change.
Our first home computer had Windows 96. My dad had a coworker with a computer hobby that lived nearby, and he cobbled some of his extra parts together for a machine for us.
Windows 96 was installed with stacks of floppy disks.
Fuck, you're right. It would have been 95 or 98. It was a long time ago, I can't remember that well. I remember the seemingly endless floppies, though!
Windows 95 did have a floppy version (13 disks I think), but it was also available on CD, it included the music video for Buddy Holly by Weezer (presumably to demo 'multimedia').
I recall it had a floppy-based boot/recovery, but I haven't seen a full installation from floppies. And I feel your pain if you need to put over 200 floppies in order.
hbk1966 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm younger than that, and I've seen plenty of floppy disks.
I haven't used any though, since all the floppy disks I've seen are old ones that my parents never threw out.
I even have a USB floppy drive so I could still use them if I wanted to.
xombae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 26 and not only used floppy disks for games (back when putting a game on your computer took 17 floppy disks and three hours) and saving files, but I also used a DOS computer for many years. It's crazy to me that some kids that are fully drinking age may have no idea what a floppy disk is.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found one in my attic once. Not as floppy as you'd expect.
h2man ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:21:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm 37 and still get excited when I run across a 5 1/4 inch floppy in the companyโs safe.
It must be interesting to talk with someone that hasnโt experienced the world pre-9/11.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a year older than you and I remember my grade school's computers using the 5 1/4 inch floppies (which, iirc, were literally floppy--as in, it was possible to bend them. I mean, you probably shouldn't, but it was possible).
I find this pre and post 9/11 thing rather odd. I get that it was a horrible thing and must have been awful for anyone involved but did it really have that big of an effect on the average person?
h2man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm not American and did not know anyone that died on that day and felt the overall impact.
Up until that point the western world was fairly peaceful and free. There were terrorist attempts, but always in some remote places.
Flying was nicer... granted, there werenโt that many low cost airlines bringing a race to bottom, but it wasnโt the nightmare it is now with security.
After that, a war came on. Which is never nice... particularly when it turned out that it never solved the problem.
The โsecurityโ tightened, and a lot of it feels like a power grab nowadays.
The war turned out to be a personal vendetta from the Bush clan and the result has been morphing into the shit show we have today in the Middle East and radicalization and islamization of western societies.
So there is a difference between pre and post 9/11. It may not affect everyone, but it certainly made a big difference.
A few years back I showed my 6 year old a VHS tape and asked her if she knew what it was. She examined it, pondered for a while, and finally answered "an old fashioned DVD?"
you could say the term was being used even though it lost its core relevance. TIL in South Africa they called the 3.5 stiffy.
G8kpr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, now I feel old.
I remember working at my high school store in 1992/3 and 3.5โ floppies were the thing to use for many classes, desktop pub. Computer science, accounting, and word processing etc. so we sold a lot of them. Had a girl come down and say she wanted to buy โa hard diskโ (which at the time was another term for hard drive)
I said โI think you mean floppiesโ.
She said annoyed โno, a hard disk. Not a floppy one, a hard oneโ
I said โok, okโ got some floppies from the shelf and she said โyeah, see, hard diskโ
I slid open the window and said โyeah, the plastic is hard, but thatโs just holding this flopping disk inside see?
That's still very surreal to me. 9/11 was a such a landmark "where were you when it happened?" moment and I'm not even American. Canada pretty much shut down that day as well.
pjabrony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve seen 3.5s and 5.25s, but I never used 8s.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I've used both but have never even seen an 8".
Iโm in a freshman-level CS Class this semester, and a couple weeks ago my professor asked the whole class who was born after โ84. Then last week he said that he was pretty sure that most of us were born after โ89. I was born in โ96 and Iโm one of the oldest people in the class.
I still find floppy disks when I clean out desks in my office. Actually, we just did a round of computer replacements earlier this year, and the computers they took out (good, powerful CAD machines from a few years ago) still had floppy drives.
So floppy disks are still around here and there. That said, I nor anybody I know has actually USED one in quite a few years.
I asked my 11-year old daughter what object was pictured in the save icon, and she had no idea what it was.
Alis451 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
most hilarious part is the "Floppy" from floppy disk is in reference to the black circle INSIDE the rectangle.
Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At thanksgiving we handed my cousins 18mo old a disney vhs in a case, he opened it exclaiming "book!" and after discarding the cassette he was really frustrated there werent any pages.
Damn Iโm 21 and I still remember playing civ off like 5 floppies lol
DrHugh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back when there was a Computers merit badge, I used to bring in a 3.5" floppy, a 5.25" floppy, and an 8" floppy. Most of the boys thought an eight inch floppy disk was a novelty item.
even those few... did they see an actual "floppy" disk, or was it the 3 1/2" that hung around a bit longer that IMO doesn't do any flopping. I the term was already a misnomer at that point, and those came out in the early 80s.
I was going through a rarely used cupboard at work some months ago cleaning it out and found a set of floppy disks with Windows 97 on it. Took it into the restaurant where teens are and they asked what it was.
csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The AskReddit question of "people who are old enough to remember 9/11..." was a bit mindblowing.
It's ok, most people our age are likely to have never seen a phonograph cylinder. Not those newfangled disks which became popular with the kids, but the old-school tubes!
Iโll never forget how stupid I felt when I was in high school (age 15, 2008) and I saved a paper I typed on a floppy disk and I went to put it in the computer and it had some type of formatting error. I asked someone for help and they were like... why are you using a floppy disk? I didnโt even know flash drives existed tbh.
In grad school we still had some 8" floppies lying around, which I doubt many people have seen.
robitj11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was cleaning out old files for my training center and ran across an old floppy disk that read "ACLS Exams 1994." I was so struck by nostalgia that I hung that thing up in my office.
I still have a load of floppies lying around somewhere with stupid teenage bullshit saved on them. If I ever come across hardware I can use them with, that will be a treat.
zap_p25 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:16:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sprog is an artist with words, and refrigerator - whom I didn't know - is planting his flag next to the master's stall. The two artists are now crossing (s)words in a friendly tit-for-tat.
Pretty cool.
Obscu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The future
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Refrigerator.
iWest625 ยท 522 points ยท Posted at 19:22:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LAMBKING ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:58:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This thread was EPIC! I always love finding u/Poem_for_your_sprog in the comments, and now I have the newcomer, u/RefrigeratorHaikuGuy to look for as well! Glorious times to be had!
And on that day, we all gained a twinkling memory of The Meeting of Sprog and Fridge to settle into our hearts for the winter days of grey and sparing sun. During the clouds and the dimness and the dirty snow, as we pulled our coats tighter to our throats: we remembered.
Wyvern39 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah, I see my phantom n syndrome acted up again my apologies. It's a debilitating disease caused by being exposed to the English language too much. It's very similar to the phantom g and the phantom h syndrome.
They don't believe you ever existed either, young child. But it's okay, we the slightly older generation know of the Floppy and his salvation. He saved my book reports once, a true hero.
Even more interesting: Iโve worked at 3 different embroidery places. 2 of them use floppy disks. Iโm amazed every time I have to use it (like 10+ times a day) haha
-zimms- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Embroidery sounds like a wholesome and satisfying job. But I'm sure you also have "those" days, like everyone else. :D
wlane13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying that... The Floppy disk was like Jesus (in that it died to become our icon)?
Or were you saying...
"Like... JESUS... the floppy disk died to become our icon of saving"
As in an exclamation...
Because I can read this sentence either way in my mind and it kind of works.
My younger sister keeps thinking the floppy disk icon is a printer, and keeps pressing it to print... then proceeds to ask me why printer isn't working.
I read an (online) story a few years back. "Ra" by Sam Hughes. A major plot point was a cosmic-level supercomputer. The heroes "saved the world". Literally. Not as in they spared its destruction, it was absolutely destroyed, along with billions of lives. But they literally saved it. Like you save a spreadsheet, they saved the entire population of the planet as data to be restored at a later time.
So I was in a thread the other day when someone said that a younger person thought the floppy disk icon was a refrigerator. When OP asked why he thought that, the kid replied that when you want to save something for later you put it in the refrigerator, duh.
[deleted] ยท 740 points ยท Posted at 16:03:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Loads of icons have this - thephone icon is an old timey phone, record icon an old fashioned microphone, the paste icon is a clipboard, the recycle bin for deleted files, a letter for emails etc.
They're called skeuomorphs iirc
EDIT: I didn't recall correctly skeuomorph is the wrong word
This is Reddit in 2017; you have to assume, unless presented with direct evidence otherwise, that anyone you interact with is too young to have ever held a job in their life.
SkyPork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not, if what I hear about most companies' current hiring status is accurate.
All of those make sense except for the recycle bin. Most places still have one.
What else would they use for the symbol?
Edit: and actually, mail is still totally common. Most people get mail. And again, what other symbol would you use for electronic mail?
[deleted] ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 16:35:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Microphones aren't uncommon, but most people outside of broadcasting or podcasting won't likely interact with a mic this shape much, if at all. So it's less that microphones are uncommon and more that that style of microphone is uncommon to most of the people who are using a cell phone.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:04:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:15:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I still see floppy disks in movies, but that's because I love re-watching Hackers...
beirch ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:12:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of streamers use that kind of microphone, I think it's quite recognisable tbh
[deleted] ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 18:14:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That assumes that you watch streamers; lots of people don't watch them. Plenty do, most don't, from a sheer percentage of the total population of cellphone users.
Ok...but everyone still knows exactly what a microphone is. It's not like all of a sudden less people are using microphones like that, if anything it's probably more now.
The only thing that has changed is that MORE people are likely to be using a mic shaped like that icon.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddammit, I linked the wrong picture. That microphone, yeah, more modern.
Ones that look more like this with the big vents are the ones I'm thinking of; stylized versions of these sorts of microphones, which are only really used for retro buffs.
hitemlow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With how popular Twitch is and how much dosh some streamers put into their setups, they'd still experience it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hitemlow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, a desk mic. You can see those from time to time. Most modern desk mics can also be mounted on a boom arm, and most people do. They can be the same shape and everything, they're just upside down.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am aware of what a desk mic is and I have one. I'm talking about that particular style, with the all-metal exterior with vents, that the other icon is mimicking. That style of microphone hasn't really been around for a while, but some icons mimic it.
Yeah, these stand out as still being 100% relevant icons to me. Just because they're figurative and not literal doesn't mean they're obsolete... all icons are figurative. As you said, what else would the bin be??
The delete icon should be nothing, blank space. To represent deletion and the ensuing eternal nothingness.
fatpad00 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:39:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But delete doesn't permanently get rid of the file. It tosses it in a place that you have to empty later. Or you can rummage through to fund that thing you accidentally got rid of
All except the folders & save icons;
As an icon designer, it worries me when designing these things. I did a project where the key demographic was young kids. I mean, sure they'll probably have to learn it at some point anyway...but how do you explain the floppy-disc icon is how you save the file, to someone who has never heard of a floppy disc, and will almost certainly never see one in real life.
I've seen it just refer to as the "save icon"...because people have never seen the origin of it.
Folders are the same, to a lesser extent, because some older type places still use manilla folders to store paperwork.
I think this is a limited situation where skeuomorphic designs fail, if the original object has ceased to exist.
In offices I've worked in, it tends to be ring-binders with poly-pockets now.
Secure files are scanned into the network and paper either archived securely or incinerated.
I was in local government though, where info-sec is seen as a little more important I guess than a lot of industry...
I was in local government though, where info-sec is seen as a little more important I guess than a lot of industry...
Ha! Did they ever have their IT infrastructure pen tested? Local municipalities are the butt of jokes in the infosec community.
Anyway, you shouldn't worry about icons being inspired by obsolete objects. The icons have come to embody the meaning without the need for a familiarity with the original object. You can just learn the meaning of icons exactly the way you learn the meaning of words. I personally don't see the floppy disk icon and think, "that must be the button for saving my work because that's a floppy disk which I used to save files on in a bygone era."
Maybe to a degree, but my locality was regularly pen-tested, and fairly secure...in Scotland - I've no idea what local authorities over the pond are like. Here, they have to meet the (not amazing, to be fair) standards of UK Government to access shared resources etc. so they are inspected and practices must be in place and proper.
Doesn't mean they're brilliant, but as it happens our IT dept. was headed by some fairly rational folks and it was pretty good. All network access was MAC-address limited etc., only authority-owned devices allowed on (which I always bitched about because I wanted my iPad on the network, dammit!), no user-installed programs, passwords must be rotated on a fortnightly/monthly basis (no reuse either! Had a random generator!)..
Re: icons, eh, I mean, I get where you're coming from, but the trouble is, those icons need to have a meaning based on that original object...if you're not at all familiar, to the point where you don't know WHAT the icon is actually based on...it's different if you recognise it's a a floppy disc, and that means save, even if you don't really know why...and someone who has never sen and will never see the actual thing, so all they have is a pictorial representation to go by, because each icon is different...now it's just a symbol, and as symbols go, a (usually blue) square with a white lined bit at the bottom and a grey shiny bit at the top isn't exactly much to go by...
I would think folders were still relevant enough. Kids would see folders of some kind in school. They might not recognise a manila folder right away as an object they've seen. But they may have done and putting paperwork in a folder is something they will have done or seen. I hadn't seen specifically a manila folder as a kid in the 90s/00s because they're more associated with grown-up admin and filing cabinets. But I had seen envelopes and rings binders and plastic document wallets so probably being told "that icon is a folder that you put documents in" was enough for me to easily understand both what the icon was for and what object it depicted.
Floppy disks, I suppose there's no reason they would have seen them and explaining that the icon is that was because 'a long time ago' you used to use this object as removable storage but no one uses them any more... seems a bit silly. Perhaps the save icon should have become a hard disk or CD a long time ago. Maybe now it should be an SD card, although obviously these aren't used quite the same way as floppy disks were.
Skipachu ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:12:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of those make sense except for the recycle bin. Most places still have one.
What else would they use for the symbol?
A trash can? All kinds of weird stories in IT support. I once helped a lady who would pull Word docs out of the bin, delete all the text inside the file, and then start typing up a whole new thing. ... Because it's a Recycling Bin and she wanted to re-use the files instead of just deleting them. I was called in to help because she couldn't figure out how to re-use a PDF file. She thought the bin had somehow locked or corrupted it.
stromm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think working in an office.
Before computers, everything was on paper. When you made a mistake or just wanted to get rid of a file (that being a document or set of pages making up a document), you would literally toss them in the trash can.
You could "recover" them up until the cleaning people came along and emptied the trash can into their cart. That almost always happened at night when no workers were around.
As people became more eco-friendly, businesses placed recycle bins alongside trash cans.
A fucking trash can, which is what it was before Microsoft stole Windows. And don't give me that "but Xerox PARC" bullshit; that was a negotiated deal. While we're at it, recall that code from Quicktime was stolen, copied verbatim, and used inside Windows MediaPlayer.
IIRC, Windows used the recycle bin symbol instead of the trash can for deleting files because they didnโt want to be seen as ripping off MacOS too literally.
I don't think there is an item that would reflect recycling or e-mail, but the recycle symbol and an @ sign are both effective at conveying the meaning of a recycle bin and an e-mail client.
I do think it more odd that we call it a recycle bin, rather than just a bin, because we're not actually recycling data like we do paper.
Maybe a papershredder is a better metaphor for deleting?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technologically this is apt, because you're not even really changing the contents of the hard disk when you delete things most of the time, you're telling the drive that that space is OK to re-use when it needs to.
Which is why we have recovery software that can restore, or at least partially restore deleted data. Also why those who want to scrub a hard drive have to take extra steps beyond just hitting delete.
Noclue55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:07:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'skeuomorph' refers to an icon mimicking a physical object.
That's a virtual skeuomorph and skeuomorphs are not limited to just icons. It could be anything from electric candles being made in the form of old wax ones or wood-paneling on cars/80's basements that isn't made of wood.
From wiki: "a derivative object that retains ornamental design cues (attributes) from structures that are inherent to the original"
It's not just one, but the entire UI. E.g. the Notes app on iOS has a paper texture.
Scott Forstall, who was in charge of iOS until iOS 6, was a huge fan of skeuomorphism. That's why the Calendar app had a leather and stitching texture among other things. Then when he was fired, after Job's death, they removed most of these textures in iOS 7.
But it's a concept that it isn't required in a digital setting. Lines are useful for aligning words when handwriting. This isn't an issue with typing. Designers do it anyways to create a sense of familiarity.
It was also one of the main early iOS design philosophies. Itโs why the notepad was yellow and had lines, or why game-center used the green felt background, draws users into the experience with familiarity.
drysart ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:24:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
skeuomorphs
What you're describing isn't skeuomorphism. Skeuomorphism is when a derivative object retains ornamental design cues from the original. For instance, if you had an address book app and its background was made to look like leather, that would be skeuomorphism because an actual address book might have a skin made of leather. A notepad app might have a paper texture as a background to mimic an actual paper notepad; even though in both cases there's no need to have that leather texture or paper texture in an app because there's no leather or paper involved.
Icons aren't an ornamental design cues in this way. There is no physical object that a computer clipboard derives from that the button having a clipboard on it is trying to mimic. It's not pretending to be a physical clipboard, it's just using the imagery of a clipboard to inform to the user what that button is and what it does; it's merely being used as a symbol to represent the meaning of the button.
Basically, the difference is in whether something is trying to look like something else for ornamental purpose. If it is, that's skeuomorphism. If it's not, if it's just using the image of something else for instructional or descriptive purpose, then it's simply symbolic ideography.
monarc ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:06:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
simply symbolic ideography
Fuck, you're right - they're just ideograms. Thank god there's still so much wood paneling out there to prompt me to show off my knowledge of the word "skeuomorph"...
Euchre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But there's a term for when an ideogram uses an obsolete reference object to describe its function. No, I can't find or figure out what that term is, and /u/drysart didn't offer it up, either. However, the bulk of the replies here are about the linguistic version of that idea.
Receivers, yes, but they're made by Cisco and they look a bit different from the icon on my phone. The icon itself looks just like the receivers from phones from the 80s and 90s.
battles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw something the other day, which I cannot find, but if you ask a child to pretend to talk on a phone they will hold their hand flat up to the side of their head, palm towards their ear.... not the 'hang loose' gesture commonly used.
ssfsx17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Studio microphones still look like that
Recycle bin can still look like that
Clipboards still exist
Floppy disks and telephones are definitely out-of-date though.
cidrei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like that people keep calling the phone "old timey." When I hear that term I think of something like this or this, but most people are clearly describing a rotary style handset.
Kind of like the camera icons being digital cameras and the video icon being a camcorder. Kind of strange thought how it used to be camcorders in the audience and reflective housing flashes/clicks from a digital camera or disposable camera. Now it's all on our smart phone.
Proper microphones, that is. And the "just a tiny hole in the surface of the device" type has also been around for decades (my old tape deck in the 80s had one already).
GayFesh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
record icon an old fashioned microphone
Isn't one of the gold standard professional recording mics like pretty much unchanged for a hundred years and looks like that?
smrtbomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The concept for the infamously copied Xerox Alto was an analogy of the physical desktop. All the icons and terminology was meant to mimic real desk items that people would be familiar with (file cabinet, trash bin, etc.)
A lot of the imagery, analogies, and terms created for the Alto are still used today.
Actually, professionals use the classic looking mics. They do waste a lot of space, but the audio quality can't be beat. Less noise, pick up better range, etc.
And mail? Letters aren't extinct yet. Less common, but a lot of things are sent by paper mail, all my bills that aren't for apps are on paper.
And recycle bin? WTF you haven't seen a recycle bin recently???
I train staff at work at various tasks. Many of them are young. I'll tell them - Just click on that icon to save it. "Oh you mean the tv?" TV - what are you talking about? "The picture of the little tv." That's not a tv - that's a floppy disk. "What's a floppy disk?" Never mind - just click on the tv.
I believe that is specifically for saving to the cloud.
gerusz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:50:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An arrow pointing down towards some grayish flat rectangle or a cloud if that's where the file is on computers. The same, but with a smartphone symbol in landscape on phones. Replace the arrow with one pointing up for loading.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of features in digital technology are like this. There's a word for it, not anachronism, but something else. Somebody please remind me if you know what I'm looking for.
Like how camera apps make the shutter sound. There's no reason for that other than it reminds you of an actual camera. But now fewer and fewer people have actual cameras unless they're photographers, so you associate that sound with the digital technology.
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The shutter sound is also so that people can't take sneaky creepshots of other people as easily.
Iโve got 3 of them knocking around in my apartment.
I๏ธ want to make them into coasters, but the guy at the FedEx store said their laminator would break them, so Iโm stuck trying to figure out a way to give them a clear seal.
Iโd actually really appreciate suggestions on this.
Maybe use Sellotape or something. Might work, might not.
queenoreo ยท 245 points ยท Posted at 19:55:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The little girl I watch asked me to โcharge the Christmas treeโ. What she wanted was for me to plug it in; but she literally has never plugged anything in, everything she touches gets charged.
xilstudio ยท 200 points ยท Posted at 20:30:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nyrol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you not get jokes?
Alx1775 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theyโre to keep cows in, right?
collin-h ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:26:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when my oldest kid was probably 1-2-ish. She was somewhat familiar with iphones/ipads, enough so that she picked up a magazine and tried to scroll around on the page with her finger, haha.
That's just because she's young, not because we don't plug stuff in any more.
Oxideist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:53:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
His point was that she thought the Christmas tree had an internal battery like every other device around today (ie. Phones, laptops.)
So she thought the tree just needed "charged" because it had run out of battery, as she isn't familiar with old school tech that requires constant energy from an outlet.
My point still stands, it's just because she's young and doesn't understand how electricity works yet or doesn't use certain appliances yet, not because plug in electronics are a thing of the past. Does your TV run on a battery? How about your microwave and oven?
Oxideist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
His original comment was things she had contacted, she's too young to have messed with those appliances
Huh, I think it's odd since her chargers would need to be plugged into a wall socket or into a computer to charge her devices. Maybe she thought the Christmas tree was wirelessly lit and that's why it needed charged.
The newest example I can think of that might qualify is 'podcast', as a noun or verb.
I imagine there are at least as many people still 'rolling' their windows up and down as using a dedicated iPod.
SirDooble ยท 469 points ยท Posted at 17:21:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there an alternative name for them not related to the iPod?
Podcast is a pretty nice name though, and I like that it's not overly descriptive.
"Online Digital Radioshow" is perhaps the best I can describe them, without being too specific, but it's an awful name.
I like 'podcast' too. "Digitally Distributed Long-Form Radio-Like Audio Recording For Your Enlightenment Or Entertainment, Brought To You By Squarespace" never really caught on.
Brawndo91 ยท 422 points ยท Posted at 17:53:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I've always called them "Digitally Distributed Long-Form Radio-Like Audio Recording For Your Enlightenment Or Entertainment, Brought To You By Me Undies".
I almost thought about browsing the MeUndies selection, but then I listened to an episode of SYMHC where Holly Fry had to read an advert for them and talk about how Me undies cradles your balls so well, and I couldn't.
Bill Burr does the best Me undies reads. Somebody took one where he was singing and gave it a piano accompaniment. I never looked into them because I hate the name.
What episode was this do you remember? I only started listening a few months ago and I always skip through the adverts (and feel kind of guilty about it)
theSeanO ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS episode of the Rooster Teeth Digitally Distributed Long-Form Radio-Like Audio Recording For Your Enlightenment Or Entertainment is brought to you by Squarespace
Podcast being a play on broadcast is pretty great. Easy to understand and transition into, and now it's taken a life of its own. Probably here to stay just like rewind.
Yeah, radioshow is a bit of an awkward one! It's the most similar medium, and a lot of radioshows are recorded as podcasts too.
But it still doesn't fit the bill.
Even broadcast is iffy because most podcasts have never been broadcasted anywhere, just hosted online.
The rest of the world uses that term to mean a medium like radio (i.e. real-time) distributed via the Internet.
MonaganX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:15:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If this thread has proved anything it's that it's perfectly cromulent to just stick with podcast. Most people don't know jack about etymology beyond the past few decades. Give it another couple of hundred years and no one but etymologists will even care where the word "podcast", which at that point probably describes holo-novels or something, originally came from.
I don't mind telling people that I listen to otters on my way to work.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:25:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the idea that a podcast is broadcasting not to your iPhone but to your own personal anti-outside world pod. Wherever you are โ overcrowded bus, loud office, gridlocked motorway, or living room โ as soon as you start listening to a podcast, you are in your pod.
It's a bit too broad. Radio and Television are also broadcasted, and are actually transmitted via radio waves, whereas podcasts on the internet are mostly disseminated via wires.
Shows on the radio are sometimes called podcasts though, I don't think the term has to be exclusive to the medium.
PigSlam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:34:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Webcast is one I've seen used, since regardless of the device you use to experience the content, it's disseminated via the internet, or world wide web.
I've now seen webcast and netcast as alternatives, and they're both pretty accurate but not too descriptive.
I think I prefer webcast, as it has a nice sound to it. I don't know if I prefer it to podcast as a word, but that might be because I'm very used to the word podcast.
"Online Talkshow" would describe most of what I listen to cause I mainly listen to the "two dudes talking" genre of podcasts. But it doesn't come close to describing the NPR/Radiotopia/Freakonomics style podcasts. Those would be "Online Audio Documentaries".
Not true. Shoutcast was their protocol for multicast streaming audio over WANs. Still is, I guess. A "podcast" was Apple's term for downloading an audio file every so often based on an RSS subscription.
I agree "NetCast" might be the best term, but that people will probably ignore it because they don't don't know or care what they're talking about.
"Online Digital Radioshow" is perhaps the best I can describe them, without being too specific, but it's an awful name.
They used to exist before podcasts. I can't remember what they were called. Real Player had a bunch of "radio" stations. I think it was just called internet radio.
Well to be fair the Journalist that came up with "podcast" combined broadcast and iPod and it was before Apple iPod supported podcasts. Back in 2004 /5 ish you had to download them from a site that did podcasts and then load them onto your iPod.
Jetboy01 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:45:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some generations of iPod still sell for a premium second hand because you can refresh or upgrade the storage with a simple laptop hard drive or compact flash card.
cmetz90 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:13:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The idea behind the name is that it is in opposition to broadcast: Broadcast media is impersonal, designed to catch as many listeners as possible so itโs kind of bland and generic. Podcasts are small, close, and personal. You donโt just have to catch whateverโs begins flung out over the radio waves for any Tom, Dick, and Harry. You can pick your own content to your own tastes and carry it with you in our iPod.
i'm still using my 160 gig Ipod classic, and i will until it stops working. I have way too much music and I've seen how my phone works when there's a lot photos on it. So, i'm holding out on switching as long as i can.
Nixflyn ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:54:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a 30GB 4th gen iPod from 2005. Lasts about 15 min off the charger and it's on its 3rd battery and 2nd hard drive. Sounds better playing that over my car's USB port than Bluetooth by a long shot.
I still have my 5.5gen โiPod Videoโ (I think 60GB) that I got in 8th grade. That iPod is still one of the sleekest products Apple created. Thatโs back when Apple innovated by adding features instead of taking them away.
When it comes to music nothing beats the battery life, storage capacity and general usability of an iPod. When they stopped making iPods Apple was dead to me.
Does anyone have an alternative MP3 player suggestion?
Oh shit, I drive an old car with crank windows and I use an old iPod. Does that make me old? Or just cheap? I can't be old yet, I'm only in my twenties!
Interestingly, the term โpodcastโ actually pre-dates the iPod. When I get home and am off the mobile Iโll look up my source.
Edit: Looked up my source - something I wrote a good few years ago now - and turns out I'm wrong; /r/zably links the Wikipedia article that says that the term wasn't coined or indeed used by Apple for a while - I must either have misunderstood it when I first read up about it, or misremembered as the years after reading up about it passed!
zably ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:44:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a source for that? Wikipedia disagrees, and says it does come from "iPod Broadcast," with a few sources that seem to back it up.
As a bit of further evidence, Google trends also doesn't really show any results for podcast before February 2004, which matches the date of the cited article.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:37:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the claim was that it pre-dated the ipod, not that it was an Apple-created term.
explohd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[iPod] was the first major digital music player.
False, there were a few major digital music players released prior to the iPod. What set the iPod apart was the beautiful sleek and simplistic design; suddenly owning an MP3 player was not seen as being a geeky thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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explohd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The others were widespread as well. Perhaps the word you're looking for is "mainstream"?
Took me a minute to realize the "pod" referred to iPod, which no one usues anymore.
Come to think of it, iPods (mp3 players in general) are one of few pieces of mainstream technology that came out and went obsolete within my adult life.
Guess I'm in there...I've got two iPods that I still use regularly (the older one is for on the water) and my car has roll-down windows. My car is a 2014 model though.
I imagine there are at least as many people still 'rolling' their windows up and down as using a dedicated iPod.
Aren't teenagers the people most likely to still be manually rolling up their windows?
drbudro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iPod + Broadcast = Podcast is interesting because 'broadcast' itself is super archaic. It comes from sowing seeds in farming by literally casting them broadly before being used figuratively in the 20s to mean a widely spread radio signal.
In the same vein, I hear a lot of podcast hosts refer to themselves as being "on air" when they're recording. I suppose it's not a completely antiquated term since some people stream podcasts wirelessly, but I'm usually playing them from my phone's internal memory so there's no air involved.
I have no idea when podcasts diverged from pods. It was probably like this year that I first realized they existed separately.
kryonik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a dedicated ipod in my car :(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing to live in a time when a particular consumer product can completely overturn a multi-billion dollar industry (i.e. the music industry), and then be practically obsolete within 10 years.
I've been into podcasts since I was young, and I've always thought the term "podcast" seems premature. I've never listened to a podcast on an iPod, but I guess the term was coined in the very early days of internet 2.0 when they couldn't see ahead that iPods would be just one of many ways to enjoy online audio shows.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds insipid, antiquated, and does not convey the fact that they are simply audio files you listen to at your convenience. It sound's like a radio show you can only get on your iPod. The term is, what, 10 years old, and already completely wrong. Podcasts have nothing to do with either "pods" or "casts."
hoodie92 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:05:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it is a cast. A broadcast.
The pod part... Who cares? It's just a name. You say it's 10 years old and completely wrong? Are you familiar with the English language? It's centuries old and it's full of stupid, useless, "wrong" words. But language doesn't work by what was originally right, it works by how people use it.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you familiar with the English language?
Fascinating ๐ค
cheeset2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:05:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whats wrong with it sounding like a radio show on my iPod?
Sure, I can get podcasts on other devices now, but whats the big deal? They are still basically radio shows.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:25:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, see, that's the whole problem in a nutshell. With "podcast" being similar to "broadcast," it evokes what you said: "a radio show on my [device]."
It's so insidious because it's kind of accurate and yet nearly the opposite.
I'd argue the two main qualities of a radio show are (1) it's live (or at least ephemeral in nature) (2) it's local to its broadcast area
Whereas a podcast is (1) always pre-recorded, even when recorded before a live audience (2) available on the Internet
Basically opposites.
Now sure, you might argue that "Listening To [Something]" is really the main quality of the mediums. I'd say that's too general to be a defining characteristic. Is a bedtime story, church sermon, or a classroom lecture similar to a Radio Show? In a way yes, but let's be real: Radio is defined by its medium.
Sure, there are things like "This American Life" which are indistinguishable whether Radio or Pod - but I'd argue that's the exception. If you compare Morning "Zoo-Crew" Radio Shows that intersperse local traffic reports with classic rock with 'funny' banter to something like "The worst idea of all time" it becomes pretty clear that certain Radio Shows could never be podcasts and vice versa.
Which leads to the problem: There's a lot of people who like radio and would like podcasts, but think "Podcast? So basically radio for dumb millennials on their phones? No Thanks." They don't get that it's sort of like radio, but really a different thing that has its own unique qualities.
cheeset2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry but I'm just going to have to disagree. I don't see an issue with relating a new medium with a past one to provide those who have no idea what it may be an idea of what it is.
I think it does a perfectly fine job of describing it in terms of what people actually know, and when you become more familiar obviously you learn how they are different.
You're acting like ones a movie while another is a book, and that simply is just not the case. Podcasts share more with a radio show than any other previously existing media.
Do you just want to the name to be completely meaningless until people learn what they are?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you make a good point. I'm really just stretching here.
At the end of the say I don't like "podcast" just because it sounds silly. A lot of the podcasts I listen to (UYD, HDTGM, CTown) make fun of the term 'podcast' pretty often, that's where I got it I guess.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:52:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The r/iamverysmart part would be if I said that it was a really banal comment and I can only imagine the level of intelligence a person would have to interpret it as an attempt to seem intellectual...
Podcast doesn't come from iPod. They both come from the same, separate acronym: "Personal On Demand". Which seems perfectly relevant still, even if no one knows that that's what it means.
Huh. TIL. That'll teach me not to dash off a quick reply when I'm working and don't have time to look something up!
[deleted] ยท 2089 points ยท Posted at 15:20:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-Side is still used when talking about CD singles.
E: And yes as everybody is saying, this came from records where the main single track went on the a-side, and the extra ones (typically that didn't make the album) on the b-sidw. That was my point really, that it no longer really makes sense when talking about CDs, should have probably been clearer.
I agree. Apples fine, whatever. Use the ecosystem you prefer. But that โwhatโs a computerโ bullshit doesnโt do anyone any good.
karethon ยท 615 points ยท Posted at 18:12:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"A computer is what you have to plug your iPhone/iPad into when the iOS update fails and the device goes into Recovery Mode." -someone that doesn't work for Apple
Oh God. I think I just had an aneurysm. I... I'm dying. Are you happy? Your fucking stupidity has killed me. Now my goddamn cat is homeless. I'm no longer alive. I'm dead.
Macs are cosmetically similar to computers and share much functionality, but you have to pay for permission to program them, which is like being able to sound out the Taco Bell menu but unable to express your thoughts in complete sentences.
...smartphones, tablets, notebooks, watches, and glasses. they compute. you give them input, they produce output. they're self-contained pieces of technology that have more power in them than the computers on which we typed our essays in the late 90s if we were so fortunate.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make to me here. I know they're all computers. That's why the commercial irritates me. Other people ought to understand that too.
crawfin ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 17:26:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My roommate and I lost our collective shits the first time we saw it. The thought that a kid that age would say that either means she's woefully ignorant or just a huge prick.
Not to mention, APPLE SELLS COMPUTERS. It's not like iPads are their only product. They are literally advertising against themselves and don't care because people will buy it anyway.
They used to be a computer company that also sold some products, now they're a product company that also sells some computers. I wouldn't be surprised if they totally phase out the computer division in the next 5-10 years.
If those iPads in 5-10 years can be as reliable and do everything my MacBook Pro can do, then I won't really care. I like MacOS too much to switch to Windows
Seriously, if you are competent with and used to OSX, you could totally install any linux distro you want to name, on any hardware you want really, and be comfortable from a CLI perspective, the rest is all justgraphical tools you can install at any time
Also, iPads ARE FUCKING GOD DAMN COMPUTERS, APPLE, STOP FUCKING SHITTING AND PISSING ALL OVER LANGUAGE WHILE YOU RAPE WHAT'S LEFT OF TECHNOLOGICAL COMPETENCY.
robdouth ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:44:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate how she's able to do so much on the iPad but is so stupid she doesn't know what a computer is. iPad's aren't replacing my dual screen monitor computer at my office job.
I'm glad to find a kindred spirit because that commercial annoys the hell out of me. Probably way more than it should.
There's plenty of real work being done on apple computers. Just not much on iPads. Macs are still heavily used in things like video and audio editing, and they're actually a great platform to program on if you do multiplatform software; they work with OSX and iOS basically by default, it's a Unix platform so it's halfway to being compatible with Linux, and you can easily run Windows, Linux, and even Android in a VM. You can dual boot at least the first two, for that matter.
You can also do most of this on non-Apple computers, except for the apple compatibility part, because Apple are a bunch of anti-competitive assholes. The unix environment is nice, though; Windows has some official support now, but it's hacky and you're really better off with actual Linux or OSX if you need Unix support.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, programmers seem to be a roughly 50-50 split between Linux and Macs.
And she lives in a brownstone and goes to the deli and dresses hip and has a gender neutral style (not saying there's anything wrong with being gender neutral, just that this is definitely part of the carefully tuned, cynical image-crafting of the advertisers)
Are you serious? i didn't even know that. I hate it even more didn't think it was possible
ATLjoe93 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:19:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Listen to the beginning when she's leaving the house. Her mom says it.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:05:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This especially pisses me off because an iPad is a computer!
nx6 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL no. An iPad is not a computer. That's exactly what Apple/Microsoft wants people to think, so they will be more accepting to the tablification of computer interfaces and enclosing people in ecosystems of "approved apps" and not having control of their own machine.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"A computer is a device that can be instructed to carry out arbitrary sequences of arithmetic or logical operations automatically. The ability of computers to follow generalized sets of operations, called programs, enables them to perform an extremely wide range of tasks."
An iPad is a computer by definition. It carries out arithmetic and logical operations automatically to follow instructions written by programmers. The methodology of these instructions making it to the computer is irrelevant to its state as a computer.
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That kid is fine. Would love to have that kid in my neighborhood, just a cool techy kid biking around and taking pictures of bugs, doing homework in the backyard....
The brat is the advertising creative director behind the commercial.
As a teenager, Iโm afraid to say that quite a lot of people from my generation donโt consider tablets and smartphones to be computers.
In my Year 11 IT class, most of the other students have barely figured out that a mouse is an input, a printer is an output, and a touchscreen is both.
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Oh thank god - thought it was only me! I'm always yelling The damn thing they make you use at school, you ignorant little twatwaffle!
Mr_Xing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think calling it arrogance is a little far-fetched...
Itโs to demonstrate that the overall relevance for your traditional desktop computer has somewhat diminished in the light of the smartphone and tablet market.
Itโs a little distasteful, but I donโt think itโs arrogance that drove them to make the commercial.
i haven't had a computer with an optical drive in like 6 years
nx6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but you still recognize a CD-ROM when people mention it. It's completely stupid to say "what's a computer?" at a time when PCs still outnumber tablet devices (all tablets, not just iPads). Hardly anyone uses floppy disks, but most people still recognize the term.
Di0nysus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, my PC has an optical drive but I haven't used it in years. Even when I get physical copies of PC games you can still just download them with the code that comes in the box instead of using the discs. I agree though I hate Apple commercials lol.
QCMBRman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iPads are computers. Just in a different shaped box
they think that computers won't exist because of the iPad
well, it's partly true as long as Apple is concerned, because they focused too much on the iPad and the iPhone they don't seem to be able to make decent computers anymore...
(source: been working on a mac for 5 years, was very pleased, wanted to buy a new one last year, noped my way out when I saw the specs and limitations of what they build nowadays)
You don't have to like the commercial, and it makes me feel old too, but I don't think it's in the wrong. It is a valid point that people are not using CDs. It's damn near the equivalent of VHS tapes which is the conversation that started this entire thread. I know they still sell them in stores, but I am not sure they would be missed if they didn't And apple is one company that absolutely want's this to be the case.
And though I swear I will never not have a desktop. Most people really don't anymore (that I know).
As an aside, I dislike most things Apple as well :)
well your quoting the marketing. An iPad may not replace a computer.
But the trend most certainly (like over 20 years) is from point A to point B. Point A being a screen attached to a mouse, keyboard, speakers and computer and hard/disk drives (tower) with a specific table or desk... or similar. We used to think of all this when you heard computer or PC. Point B is pretty much just a screen. The screen has the computer/drives inside of it and effectively eliminates the mouse and keyboard and any other buttons really, with a touchscreen, and the need for attached speakers or other peripherals vanishes. You can carry the thing around is so tablet like.
You can argue for laptops, but is it really crazy to call them an intermediate step?
And in Apple's defense, though I've never owned a thing they make since the IIgs, they were the first mainstream all-in-one computers (remember all those cool colors?). They were not first in laptops but became a staple with the macbook. They were certainly the driving force behind commercially eliminating buttons (even on that dumb-ass mouse), keys, popularizing touchscreens, tablets, smartphones... to that commercial, the iPod was HUGE in the demise of physical CDs.
Meh... I am going to stop. The work days over, and I can't believe I am making Apple sound good. But I honestly can see the connection. It is sort of their cup of tea or marketing platform and has been for ~40 years.
To be fair, I can't remember the last laptop I owned that had an optical drive. Maybe a decade ago?
Worse, I can't remember the last time I used a computer's optical drive at all. Drivers? Just download them. Software? Cloud downloads. Games? Steam. Play a movie? Why when my TV runs Amazon Prime, Vudu, Hulu, Netflix, and has an attached blu-ray player?
And that girl is WAY the fuck too addicted to her iPad. Like, get a life. And it's okay and even preferable to make your stupid bug city map on actual paper and coloring material.
lawre179 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:08:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"comments are disabled for this video" I wonder why
lawre179 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the exact same thing. I hadn't seen the commercial before /u/curtisthayer mentioned it, but it seriously made my blood boil.
RKRagan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:11:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worse for me was that this kid was using an iPad Pro. WTF. That is way too expensive for some kid to be carrying all across town just so she can draw something on a picture of a cast with a stylus.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen the Apple commercial where the little boy is laying in the grass looking at his iPad and the neighbor lady asks him what is he doing on his computer. The boy says, "What's a computer?" Duh.
They allow sales tactics that would be illegal here. Boy bands market to teenage girls that if they buy a certain threshold number of a specific CD single that day, then they release another one or have a concert on TV or release a new promo photo. People buy the singles 10 at a time to be sure they'll 'win'.
It's much less so teenage girls, and much more so adults with jobs. Kids don't have money. Adults have money, and are still willing to spend thousands of dollars on things like phone games and incentivized merchandise.
Also, what part of that is illegal? The marketing to children part or something to do with having sales bonuses attached to merchandise?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:57:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Promo items for albums. They still get made, I still buy them. You get some extra music to the album and they are rare and will raise in value.
You can still get CDs of music in the EDM world, at least. DJs prefer to have a high fidelity copy of a song for performance and production, and most home burners and compression just don't cut it.
Outside of that though? I can't think of any other CDs.
I'd say CDs aren't even really a thing anymore. I know they are in stores, but I enjoy vinyl far more than CDs if I need something for the art or hard copy or feel.
If they are not a fan of one special band, they usually don't know it. If I talk to fans of my favourite band, they know what it is, as the b-sides of the band are great. But especially people who his listen to the radio or to nospecial band don't know it
skaterrj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen lyrics online for Blue Oyster Cult's Burning For You that say, "Time to play besides," which doesn't make sense. The first time I read it, it took me a minute to realize the line was, "Time to play B-sides." It makes a LOT more sense that way!
Not really, CDs nowadays never need to be flipped over, and plenty of laptops don't even have cd drives in them anymore. If the concept of flipping the cd doesn't exist then it's harder to make the connection to a b side
Just to add a fun anecdote, in the early 2000's I had a few CD albums that utilized double sided CDs that needed to be flipped over. These were longer albums that opted for a single double sided CD instead of having two separate CDs to accommodate its length.
Oh man, this just reminded me of having to make due with my cheap Diskman that only had a 10 second skip protection while riding in a school bus with no noticeable shock absorbers. On bumpy roads, I was listening to songs in 5 second fragments.
It came from vinyls right? Those small (6"?) ones? Those were before my time but I definitely remember having to flip cassette tapes over to side B to hear the end of Adventures in Odyssey.
And when someone said the same thing over and over, we used to say he sounded like a broken record, because a scratch in a record would cause that part to repeat. I guess people don't say it anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't make me mad, it's just a fact that I have to explain it whenever I mention it (to someone who's not fan of a special band, those often know what it is). I like sharing this bit of information and don't care that many people don't know
That reminds me, in the news industry we still call "random extra footage for the story" B-Roll. There's no long "rolls" of film and everything is on the same device not an A or B.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So is this just a term that is actually used amongst people in the news industry? I have never heard that before!
I think it's most commonly news, but any sort of filming job uses it. A related term is "stock footage." Stock footage is basically a collection of B-Roll people can use, but for news you generally get your own because you want things local and related to the story.
Another good one is "cut" as in cut (stop rolling... hey rolling too since there's no film canister spinning around) or jump cut or any of that. That comes from the days where film editing wasn't "load the editing software" but more "get the scissors and some tape."
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:11:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Time to play B-Sides!"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a reference to something?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:22:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uh 'Burnin for you' by the Blue Oyster Cult.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh OK I don't feel bad for not recognising it then lol
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you sort of should, because its a really badass song.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:28:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there are many 'badass' songs, and so I will feel alright about having never heard of the ones by obscure bands...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relatively obscure, certainly where I am... I have certainly never heard of them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you live?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
England. Most of my friends are into various types of hard rock/heavy metal, never heard them mentioned, and I like to think I would have heard of most major bands anyway.
Shows your age then and there is nothing wrong with that. Blue รyster Cult are far from obscure and were decently popular. Their hayday was in the 70's. You will probably be more familiar with Don't Fear the Reaper
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well i guess they are one of those that aren't as famous now as they used to be. Cos I have heard of a lot of bands from that era I have heard of.
But yeah that song is familiar, although I don't know where I have heard it.
It was used in several games and movies and is probably the one song most people will know from them or rather know of but not know the band. But I guess you are right saying "obscure" despite them not truly being obscure. But they have had a lot of influence on today's metal and rock.
Though that is kind of the joy of this kind of thread. There are things that are only ~15 years that have had their meanings and uses falling into obscurity purely due to time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well quite, probably more well known within their genre, which I am not a massive fan of. Still, am curious to ask my friends who do like that style of music if they know them.
quedfoot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-Sides are usually included as a bonus to CD singles. Regular CDs are all A-sides. B-sides basically now mean "Songs that didnt make the cut". But they still use them to push Singles sales. A-B Sides refer to 2 different sides of a Record or Cassette. A-side songs where all of the good songs and B-side was the lesser liked side or less marketable side. This is because it sucked to fast forward or flip media back in the day.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:38:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they are still effectively the same thing as from my experience record b-sides also tended to be songs that didn't make the cut. Like you say they were physically on the b-side, but I think they still were seen as bonuses, an extra track for added interest, and I guess to make use of the b-side.
Of course another major difference is now maxi singles are quite common because previously you would need a 12'' to hold multiple b-sides I think.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's what I mean, it made snese with records because it referred to tracks of side b, but now with CDs the term doesn't actually make sense any more.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well quite, I have never had or known of any... In fact, why would they be? Unless for a long album, in which case they wouldn't even have any b-sides on them.
I had a cd single by bsyd3 (a very bad local band from the early 2000s) where they specifically did it for marketing purposes. Given their current outrageous success you can imagine how that turned out.
You're right. There is no reason to do it for anything digital.
gcam_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bon Jovi's slippery when wet remaster is double sided.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK, is that to fit extra tracks on.
But anyway presumably that is an LP anyway, meaning you wouldn't term any of the tracks b-sides.
Clayh5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did people even really do B-sides that much after CDs came around? I know U2 did their CD singles in the 90s as like one or two new songs and then like 3-5 remixes of the main song, but they're the only artist from that era I really listen to. Singles since I've been around (mostly iPod/streaming era) have been mostly just single songs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With digital music, they aren't really a thing, but I am pretty sure the majority of CD singles still have b-sides on, so still a bit of a while ago, pre digital music.
Carly Rae Jepsen released some B-sides for her album Emotion under the title, Emotion Side B, about a year after the album came out. This was a year ago, most recent thing I know of that references B Sides
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of bands did tbh, usually bands would record 15-20ish songs for their album and put the best ones on the album and threw the rest on singles.
Every now and again you'd get bands that recorded so many good songs during sessions that people made alternative tracklists for their albums or released compilation albums of B-sides. Hell, Muse even released TWO b-sides albums (Hullabaloo and Random 1-8) and still didn't include every good track.
aew3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:37:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people seem to refer to any rarities as B-sides now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good point! I have noticed it lately when referring to tracks for a potential bonus disc, which I guess in days gone by would have ended up as b-sides.
EP (extended play) is a good one. People still use that to mean 'mini album'. We still call albums records too. Audio formats were so romanticised once upon a time. And people on TV still call CCTV footage 'the tapes'.
I wonder why double-sided CDs don't (or barely) exist. Double-sided DVDs are a thing, but it never really caught on for CDs.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the time it isn't really needed I guess. After all, most of the time you buy a CD it fits on one side quite nicely. Plus, I guess one sided ones have more info on the front. Never seen a double.sided DVD before.
The term "cut" is used by djs to refer to a version of a song, referencing tracks that were "cut" in vinyl (actually, pressed, but cut used to kinda make sense when it was a physical medium). For instance, you call a high dynamic, intense remix a "power cut" - that term used to literally refer to the first track on the B side of a rock album, in the days of "album-oriented rock" radio. The first track on side A is the single, but the first track on side B is the one that the band thinks is the coolest/wants the DJ to notice.
B-side being used for CDs when you only listened to one side of the actual disc. A record or a tape had a B-side. CDs, not so much.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's exactly what I mean. I had forgotten about cassettes, but yeah I do often have to explain to people where the term b-side actually comes from.
EEENK! Wrong. CD Single had additional tracks, 45s and 12" "Singles" had b-side, the actual reverse side of the "hit" single side. CDs were, generally, only printed on one side.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, that's exactly the point. They are still called b-sides even though they are only printed on one side.
Yeah but vinyl sales have been way up recently, so maybe it's going to be relevant once more?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, certainly has stayed relevant, but all the same it doesn't make sense when referring to a CD single if you see what I mean. Like hanging up the phone still is relevant to some phones, but it is still a weird one when using a mobile.
Thresh is the non edible parts of grains and was often used to cover flooring back in ye olden times. There would be a plank of wood at the bottom of the door to hold in the thresh so it wouldn't fly outside every time you opened the door.
Also the tradition of carrying the bride over the threshold was because their dress would get caught on the plank.
Edit: apparently I am wrong. Please disregard this comment.
Martbell ยท 830 points ยท Posted at 18:40:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was unlucky for the bride to trip over the threshold so the groom would carry her over just to be sure she didn't stumble.
That's interesting, I had always heard it as it was bad luck to cross a threshold with your left foot. A woman (being in such a state of emotional stupor after her big day) would be more prone to making such a mistake. So, the mature, levelheaded man would pick her up and carry her across, ensuring a fortunate household and marriage.
Tutush ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:18:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Starts off innocently enough. By the end it's... quite disturbing. Especially because if you think about it, it's exactly what you'd expect from that time.
Martbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:37 on December 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw this one on Snopes. It was fabricated by modern writers.
The earliest known use of "threshold" in the English language is from Alfred the Great's Old English translation of the Roman philosopher Boethius's De consolatione philosophiae. In this translation, which was written around 888, "threshold" appears as "รพeorscwold" (that first letter is called a thorn and it was used in Old English and Middle English to indicate the sounds produced by "th" in "thin" and "this"). The origins of this Old English word are not known, though it is believed to be related to Old English "threscan," from which we get the words thresh, meaning "to separate seed from (a harvested plant) using a machine or tool" and "thrash," meaning, among other things "to beat soundly with or as if with a stick or whip."
So the words are probably related, but not that way. It sounds more like it meant "separate" or something of the sort. Also thresh isn't a noun, the inedible parts are called chaff.
The two meanings for "thresh" being discussed (the act of separating parts of grain, or to โstamp the feet noisilyโ) are not unrelated.
"Threshing" (also called "thrashing") is the act of loosening the grain from its husk (the chaff). One common method of threshing grain was by stomping and scraping it with your feet along the floor (another method was to use a tool called a flail - interesting that in their modern usage, "thrashing" and "flailing" are relatively synonymous).
A "threshold" does refer to a raised boundary at a door intended to keep grain from being blown outside, but it wasn't named because people put "threshes" on the floors of their homes.
Threshing was done either on a stone or earth floor outdoors, or in an area of a barn referred to as a "threshing floor" or simply a "thresh."
Why did you need a raised barrier to keep the grain from blowing outside? Because the next step after threshing is "winnowing," the act of actually separating the "wheat from the chaff." Most traditional methods of winnowing use wind in one way or another to blow away the lighter chaff while leaving behind the heavier grain. Barns are traditionally built with two large sets of doors or openings on opposite walls, which makes it easy to move animals and equipment, and is also a great way to create a draft.
You'd thresh your grain in the barn, then open the barn doors to create a breeze to do your winnowing. But you still have grain all over the floor, so you're going to need some kind of barrier to hold the grain in the thresh while the wind blows through. Some kind of thresh...hold.
felesroo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:03:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although the English, to the disgust of much of the rest of the world, did cover their floors with woven mats of either reeds or thresh. These would invariably become infested with vermin and parasites, especially through the winter when such creatures would seek warmth.
And to this day, the English still have carpeting in their kitchens and bathrooms. Sigh.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:37:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
kayelles ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:41:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Outdated national stereotypes, sigh.
No one whose house I have been into in my life have had a carpeted bathroom or kitchen.
(I am English, have visited many English houses)
felesroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we were looking at flats in London, we ran into a couple. One of our friends up in the West Midlands had carpet in both kitchen and bathroom. Most don't have them anymore, no, but they are still out there.
drumstyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carpet in the bathroom? What? I mean, those small mats that get washed weekly are alright, but just like...carpeted?
felesroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:35:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Wall-to-wall carpeting.
As others have pointed out, this is far less popular now than it was in the post-War years, but carpeting the bathrooms and kitchens is definitely something the British used to do.
I have seen many houses in England with carpeted bathrooms. Tbh, I dont see whatโs wrong with that, and it keeps the feet warm. Iโve never seen a carpeted kitchen though.
felesroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still exist. Seen them myself. But they are more uncommon now, thank god.
Even though I play that game too goddamn much my mind went to Hunger Games first. Panem would never have been liberated if it weren't for his repatriation of Rue. :(
Jazco76 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:54:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And his district harvested grain.
limabone ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:01:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought he was a guy who was really good at Quake
Relevant part:
"As stated above, the reeds used on floors were typically changed daily. Besides, who ever heard of calling reeds, rushes, or sheaves of grass โthreshesโ? Oneย threshesย plants to separate stalk from seed, but no part of the plant is called the โthresh.โ
The โthreshโ part ofย thresholdย apparently comes from a prehistoric source that denoted โmaking noiseโ and is related to the Old Church Slavonikย tresku, meaning โcrash.โ By the time it reached Germanic (thresk-), it was probably being used for โstamp the feet noisilyโ (something thatโs a good idea to do in a doorway if youโre wearing muddy boots)."
SUPERSTITION:ย ย The lore and symbolism surrounding the custom of carrying the bride across the threshold.
ORIGINS:ย ย Even the most unsuperstitious and least tradition-bound will stoop to observing the custom of having the groom carry his bride over the threshold.
Nowadays, that threshold has come to mean the doorway into their hotel room, but those who are going to an actual house should play it safe and treat both the main door and the door to the bedroom as important thresholds to hoist the new Mrs. over.
This tradition comes down to us from Roman times when observing it indicated that a bride sacrificed her virginity with appropriate reluctance in that she had to be carried to her deflowering lest she get away if set down. These days, most people just see the practice as a general luck-bringer, one possibly linked to any number of cautions against tripping over a threshold. By carrying the bride over this barrier, she at least is spared the possibility of tripping and thus triggering this particular brand of ill luck.
Merlord ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:45:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to this source, that etymology is incorrect:
"It is true that floors of the period were sometimes covered with a layer of rushes or reeds (known as โthreshโ in the 17th century โ Snopes is wrong on this one point). But โthresholdโ has nothing to do with โthreshesโ on the floor. The word โthresholdโ first appeared in Old English as โtherscoldโ or โthrescold.โ The first part of the word carried the meaning of โto stamp with the feet, to stomp noisily,โ which is, of course, what one does when entering a room with mud or snow on oneโs shoes. The second part of the word is a mystery, but it is fairly certain that it was something other than our modern word โhold,โ and it was transformed into the more familiar โholdโ over time."
The crazy thing is I know what that word means but I could never explain it to someone.
Trazac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your use of "ye" reminded me of the letter ร, which is pronounced "thorn." It was an old English character which was replaced with "th" and over time became indistinguishable from the letter Y. So "ye" is supposed to be provided as "the."
I thought that Y was used in place of thorn for printing purposes (I can't remember of the top of my head why exactly) but was still pronounced as the voiceless dental fricative (th in thought)
Edit: Source from a quick wiki search, though wiki states no citation.
the substitution of Y for thorn soon became ubiquitous, leading to the common 'ye', as in 'Ye Olde Curiositie Shoppe'. One major reason for this was that Y existed in the printer's type fonts that were imported from Germany or Italy, while thorn did not.
Trazac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The letter deformed over time to resemble Y. You are correct that typsets made use of the Y for double duty however signs and whatnot that came before the use of a typewriter would still use Y in place of a thorn. Around the same time, the digraph th was taking place of the thorn widely. Since the letter was so out of use, there was no real reason to make special type when space was limited and typewriters were pretty good at getting jammed with few characters anyway.
Interesting. I edited my originally comment from a wiki article including more information. Admittedly, the quotation stated from wiki doesn't have a citation unfortunately.
The English language and its history is quite interesting and always something more to learn about it.
Also the tradition of carrying the bride over the threshold was because their dress would get caught on the plank.
This tradition actually goes all the way back to early Rome and the rape of the Sabine women. The Romans needed some ladies and couldn't get the neighboring tribe to give up their daughters. So they held a big festival, invited the Sabines, and on a certain signal they all grab the nearest young lady and ran off with her. Since the women were taken forcefully, the Romans had to carry their stolen bride into the house, hence the tradition. There are several really amazing sculptures and paintings of this story from the Renaissance.
EricHart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That first bit comes from that "Life in the 1500s" copypasta that's been floating around the Internet for years and which is almost entirely nonsense. The word first appeared in Old English as "therscold" or "threscold". The first part of that word means "to stamp with the feet; to stomp noisily."
carputt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried carrying my wife over the threshold when we married, buuuut I was too drunk. Luckily my father got pictures of me dropping her!
Literally no more than thirty minutes ago I was wondering if it was "threshold" or "threshhold" because of the way it's pronounced. (At least around here) it's pronounced "thresh-hold".
So the fact that it had to do with thresh makes a ton of sense.
'Ye' isn't a 'Y' and an 'e'; in this context, the 'Y' is used in place of 'ร', which is a 'thorn', and has the 'th' sound. 'Ye' is actually 'รe', pronounced 'the'.
I remember reading somewhere that it was something to do with a pagan religion and having her appear like she'd been kidnapped to the ancestral gods. Someone that's been kidnapped doesn't walk in willingly. I didn't remember much about it, but it was something along those lines.
Stimonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wonder how many brides had to die from a plank related injury for this to become a tradition.
I still call a remote a clicker because the first one we had actually clicked. It was also connected to the television with a cord.
Hanging up the phone.
People around here still use the term "redd up" when itโs time to clean. It comes from a Scot or Northern English dialect I think. It also shows how isolated my little area of Ohio was.
phillip_u ยท 609 points ยท Posted at 16:01:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting note - some early remotes were called clickers because they actually used metal rods of different lengths to generate ultrasonic tones that the TV listened for and reacted to. Pressing the buttons snapped a small hammer against these rods which produce a clicking noise. No batteries or wires were needed since they were purely mechanical.
The clicking of other ones was simply due to mechanics of the button but they were otherwise electronic and the wired ones existed because IR tech and protocols weren't around yet and existing wireless methods including ultrasound and visible light didn't support enough commands or were too subject to interference from ambient conditions.
pakron ยท 525 points ยท Posted at 16:17:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had one of these tvs and it just so happened that when you spun a ratchet I had around in circles, the tv volume would go down. I showed my friends and they were all convinced I was tricking them somehow but couldn't figure it out. It was no trick.
LOL! Yep. My father had a giant cabinet CRT television - I think it was either a Zeinith or Magnavox. Either way, that was the first "remote" TV I had seen. It actually had one of those "clickers". If you jangled his key chain the right way, you could turn it on or off, change the channel, and once in a while, change the volume.
TV picks up a particular frequency sound for each particular remote command. The ratchet he had, when spun, produced the same frequency that the remote would to reduce volume. So when spun, the TV picked up the sounds coming from it and interpreted them as the clicks from the remote.
Captain crunch. And it was more like around the early 70s (possibly late 60s)
kabflash ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:51:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had an old payphone in the area around 20-25 years ago that we teens had figured out you could get free calls by holding the '9' button down half way. It produced a tone that for whatever reason allowed us to make free calls.
You could change the channel on some TVs if you used a Slinky just right in front of it. You had to try slower and faster and I guess at some it would hit the right frequency it needed to 'hear'.
The T.V. I had when I was young (around 1986 or so) used an ultrasonic remote. I remember that my parents got me a Star Wars toy ship that when you pushed one of the buttons it would turn off the TV. One night when I was supposed to be in bed I hid behind a rocking chair and used my toy to turn of the TV over and over. When I told my parents how I did it when I was caught (or revealed myself, I don't remember) they returned the toy.
My dad had a friend that had one of those TVs. We were at his house watching TV and he started sneezing and the TV would change 2 or 3 channels with every sneeze. We thought it was a trick but even when we had control of the remote it would happen again when he sneezed.
When I was a kid we had some kind of early light based remote that looked exactly like this. It would activate actual motors in the TV that would physically turn the channel and volume knobs.
We also discovered, by accident, that if you swung one of my mom's pendant necklaces in front of it you could get it to change channels too. I imagine it was some kind of timed/pulsed light reflection that did it, but it looked pretty mystical and freaked some friends out.
Friend had one of those. His dog learned to shake his dog tags to change the channel when he did not like what we were watching. So either we watched what the dog wanted, or had to turn the TV off.
It used to be that a 6 penny nail dropped on a tile floor would ccause the sound thatt changed the channel. I used to hide the remote and then throw a nail on the floor during the climatic scene. Drove my parents nuts, and earned me more than one beating.
dragondm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, my parents had one of these when I was growing up. Zenith Space Command. The mechanism in the TV physically turned the knobs. Fun part was the tags on our family dogs collars would emit the same sounds, so if the dog was scratching an itch in the family room, the TV went bananas.
I had friends when I was a kid (in the 70's) that had a tv with a different type of clicker remote.
It had two metal strips that were curved, and when you pressed one button it pushed on a strip to bend it the other way, and when it did it made a fairly loud click. Kind of like a metal tape measure does if you bend it the wrong way, or a metal lid from a jar when you push in the middle. I think that one changed the channel up one. Press it again and it bends back, making another click to go up another channel. There were only 13 channels.
The other button caused another metal strip to bend and when you let go it snapped back, making two clicks in quick succession. That turned the tv on or off.
Holy crap you made me think of that Tonka Truck my uncle got me that was controlled by a clicking remote. I was even able to make the clicking sound myself so I didn't need the remote :D
My grandfather had one that was like a squeaky dog toy. You would squeeze it and it would turn the tv on or off.
gorcorps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me get this straight... back in the day we had the technology to input TV commands with nothing but sound. Over time we developed this technology into an IR signal, and eventually into an RF signal. And just recently, one of the quicker growing technology trends involves smart devices that can control your TV and other things via audio commands.
What... what are we doing as a society? Are we even moving forward? What does it all mean? What else don't I know about the old ones? I wonder if having an existential crisis is enough of a reason to skip work, I need to go lie down (you know, after asking Alexa to play something soothing)
Why wasnโt the ultrasonic tones approach also susceptible to ambient conditions just like the visible light spectrum? Is ultrasound just generally uncommon?
It totally was but like you say, they're less common. It is because of ambient sounds that I first learned about how such remotes worked. I had a screwdriver set that when I dropped one of the drivers, the channel changed. This spooked me at first but when I realized I could repeat it by dropping the driver on a particular surface, I started looking into how the remote worked.
I call it clicker, but I never knew what it meant. Thanks!
9bikes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they actually used metal rods of different lengths to generate ultrasonic tones that the TV listened for and reacted to. Pressing the buttons snapped a small hammer against these rods which produce a clicking noise.
We had a TV like that when I was a kid. It was an antique by then (a Muntz!). You could change channels by jingling a ring of keys.
As a kid, we had a TV with a "clicker" and sometimes the tags on our dogs' collars would make the TV change channels as they walked by clanging tags on their collars
BradC ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 16:19:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We never had a remote that clicked but one of our early VCRs had a corded remote control on it.
The VCR I had hooked up to the TV in my room when I was younger was very much like an audio cassette player. The buttons were ones where you'd have to press the button/lever down to engage (like on a tape player). Big, heavy son of a bitch.
We used to get second-hand VCRs from an uncle who worked for a company that recorded television commercials.
They were huge and metal and had similar buttons.
But the most magnificent thing is that they could rewind a two-hour movie in about 15 seconds and it sounded like a plane taking off. On rare occasions, the speed of the spools would rip the tape apart and it would get caught up in the machinery and we'd have to toss the VCR if we couldn't pull it out easily.
But there was always another used VCR to replace it.
I went to visit my uncle at work one day and there was a room with about 500 of these VCRs and we had to wear ear protections because it was so loud.
BradC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd forgotten about the speed of rewind but yeah mine was totally like that too. Very loud.
This is why we bought a separate rewinder. They were marketed as a device to reduce wear and tear on your VCR. That was nonsense, as far as i know, but they did rewind a hell of a lot faster than our vcrs.
BradC ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:25:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in a video store and we had a bank of rewinders behind the counter so that we could rewind the movies that people didn't.
1mikeg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not BS, actually. Rewinding in your primary VCR would eventually wear down the tape heads.
Chrthiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you pressed the square stop button the tape head disengaged
1mikeg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not on all models. There were plenty of VCRs where basically the tape head was always engaged and the stop button simply "turned off" the signal from the tape head.
Banh_mi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:02:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when you had to manually set all the stations?!
We had one. It was the Fergerson Videostar. It was a top loader too.
G8kpr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a couple weeks we had one of these. It was our first โremoteโ. Long before we had a vcr, those things were expensive.
So the story went that my a guy at my dad's work was selling it, my dad brought it home for us to try out for a week. My brothers and I loved it. Then one day it was gone.
โWhat happened to the remote????โ I asked, my dad said he returned it to his coworker who sold it to someone else.
WHAAAAAAATTTT?
My dad said โoh, I didnโt think anyone used itโ
Holy shit, at the time it was the greatest invention.
I think our first vcr had buttons like that. We had a camera, too, and you had to carry the whole vcr from a strap over your shoulder with the cameraconnected to it.
Right? That's one of the least odd things we say. And it's not just the word choices, it's the pronunciation of certain sounds too. I can instantly pick out a native when I hear them say "McDonald's."
LEIllum ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:07:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs pretty close to the Danish โryd opโ to clean up.
lbelsby ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:04:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in Norwegian "rydd opp", and the Swedish for tidyness(ish) "reda".
Guessing this term is one of those Old Norse origins of English. That or Scandinavian immigrants..
Well, it's "rydde op" in modern Danish, so it's probably a norse term. Scots is full of those "half-way" Danish words, like "Kirk" ("kirke") and "Bairn" ("barn") and "Ken" ("Kende").
Seems to me early cable boxes were called cable converters, so hence the remote to it was called the converter. I'm having vivid flashbacks to my Grandfathers "boob tube" (his words) setup. (WTF was it called a boob tube anyway?)
freaque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where was your ex from? I live in Toronto and a lot of people here still call a remote a converter.
Those moms are grandmas now. Current moms are more likely to call all consoles "playstation"s or "X-box"es than "a Nintendo"
Dom3y ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:56:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know it's just because you're using a different shortening of the same term right? Originally it was "remote controller". Some people shortened that to remote. Which is actually shorter than controller.
Are they middle aged or older? That was a pretty common name for controllers after the home Pong consoles caught on back in the 20th century.
Martipar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:42:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why? it is remote. it isn't directly affixed to the machine.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:30:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from the north-east of Scotland and we say 'redd up / rid up', but use it to mean something that is a mess (as opposed to the act of tidying up).
Jabronee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to say redd up, and I also am from a small town in Ohio. I never thought about it til you said something but I have not heard it anywhere else.
Again, my husband is from middle Georgia. He looked at me like I was insane when I told him I was making stuffed mangos for dinner. He asked what I was stuffing them with and I said, "ground beef, tomatoes, rice, and garlic."
I think he truly questioned the future of our relationship.
Jabronee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:06:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I just asked my mom and she said when she was young that's what everyone called them!
Itโs not common anymore with younger kids but I still do it sometimes.
Jabronee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:42:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hilarious. I'm going to ask my wife if she's ever heard that. We're from the middle of Amish country though, I doubt half the Amish even know what a mango is.
I just found out that I don't like either type of mango, lol. It always weirds out my friends when I take them to my favorite mom and pop restaurant for a stromboli and have to request no mango.
See if there is a clicker exchange in your area. If there is, you can pay a deposit, borrow the clicker, and then return it at the end to get your deposit back. If there isn't one, you should start one.
Yeah, we don't have one, but I'll look into that! The university co-op has like full control of clickers rn, and even if you buy them used, the registration fee basically makes it the cost of a brand new one. :( It's $50 spent on a glorified remote.
People around here still use the term "redd up" when itโs time to clean. It comes from a Scot or Northern English dialect I think.
As many other words in Britain, this term originated in Norway/Scandinavia I suspect. We say "rydde opp" (well, not the Swedes, but that's because they are Swedish. Swedes are strange).
joshi38 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:45:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the clicker. I've heard loads of terms for the remote control, but the one I've never heard outside of my family is "The Button".
No clue why we called it that, it very clearly has more than one button on it, but for some reason that was our word for it and and the term still gets used today.
My husband and family are from middle Georgia. I was living with them and my mother in law asked me what my plan for the day was. I told her I was going to redd up in the living room the read. Oh the looks I got!
basher09 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Norwegian term for "clean up" is "rydd opp". I'm not sure if it's exclusively a Scandinavian term, or if it has origins in other languages.
Itโs old Scots-Norse to be very clear. My tiny part of Ohio is deeply Scottish, Irish, and German and was isolated for a very long time. Old words and terms still mingle into every day language.
tdt0005 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's parents always called the remote "the box" for some reason. My friend now refers to is as such. I'm not sure where that term came from but I always found it amusing.
Blake001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents do too! And do I do as well, having grown up listening to them. Always have to catch myself or people donโt know what Iโm talking about. Maybe itโs a regional thing?
tdt0005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well his parents and grandparents are both local to the same region as me (southeast) and they are the only ones Iโve ever heard say it so Iโm not sure.
Blake001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, New England here so that doesnโt explain it. Oh well!
Iโm in my late 30โs. We were just poor and had an old television.
Horzzo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard 'redd up", but when I joined the ARMY I first heard people say "put something up" to put something away. I never heard the phrase growing up in the north. I think it is a southern thing mostly. That, or no one in Michigan used it.
What's confusing is when you ask someone to put something up, but the object belongs in a lower cabinet and it's sitting on a table. Children that are painfully literal do not understand this phrase.
Getting stuff "redd up" is really common here in northern ireland. Usually means to get stuff sorted out or cleaned up, but we use it for lots of reasons other cleaning. (E.g I'll be there once I get this work redd up)
Also dont really know how to spell it since its only ever spoken, just using "redd" because you did.
The first remote I used (way back when the Earth's crust was still cooling) was a Zenith TV remote that was purely mechanical. It "pinged" aluminum rods to send a signal to the TV.
Ah, that explains why my university calls that thing a clicker! The little remote control thingy you use to give electronic responses during a lecture... That thing didn't even click when you push its buttons...
My first TV had a wireless remote, but the TV had just a dial with 2-13 channels on it. The remote had two buttons, on-off and channel. When you pressed the channel button, the dial physically turned, and made a distinct "chathunk" sound, and only went in one direction.
Oh! Another good one is, "Donโt touch that dial!" at commercial breaks.
We had an old television with actual dials and horrible reception. We would fight over who had to get up and finagle the dial when it was time to change to one of the other three channels we got.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my house we call the remote the "teek teek" because that's the equivalent of clicker from an Arabic speaking family growing up in the 80s.
(And I guess I should clarify that isn't an official Arabic slang, just something my wife's family made up)
Itโs definitely Norse in origin but since there isnโt a huge Norse/Scandinavian population here itโs assumed we got it from Scottish, Irish, or English dialect. They stole it from you lot.
Yes, it does seem that the more northern parts of the UK has a more Scandinavian loan words. Also "kirk" for church in some parts. I assume those parts were hit harder by the early medieval cross-Northern Sea tourist industry.
My Dad calls it a "Blooper", I looked into the history of the term and apparently it has something to do with the way old radios worked. I don't think it's a common term even amongst older people, might be a Canadian thing.
cgriboe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alive just long enough to commonly see TVs with dials instead of remotes when I was younger (born 1992) and I've never seen a remote/clicker connected via a cord. Was this common in the past or just for certain brands?
The earliest television I remember in my house was from the seventies. It had a corded remote. Our next one didnโt even have it... we were stuck fighting over who changed the channel.
To clarify the "redd up" thing, it is a term used in Doric, which is a Scottish dialect in the North East. Being so close to Norway, we had a lot of Norwegian settlers when Scotland wasn't a thing, so that is likely how we got the term. I guess a bunch of Scots moved to Ohio, which is neat.
Huge Scottish and Irish population. Most of the old names from here can be traced back to when Ohio was a territory/colony. Iโd say 90% of them are Scottish or Irish.
I have an aunt and uncle who call it a beeper. It drives me up the walls every time I hear them say it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents had an ongoing play argument most of my life, mom called it a clicker, dad would reply "you mean the remote?"
Then one day I was reading the comic strip Foxtrot and Paige was fighting with Jason. She yells "Gimme the clicker!" I showed it to mom and she laughed so hard she was nearly in tears.
Ancguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where in Ohio did you use that term? We used "redd off the table" for clearing it after a meal. This was in Northeastern Ohio, but I always thought it was a western PA thing, since that's where my mom's family was from.
Does every family call it something different. I had a few mates call it the clicker, one who called it the twitcher and for some reason I call it he doobery and I have no idea where that comes from
I have to get one of these, because my dog in the rear seat has learnt that if he hits the knob with his paw, he can open the window to get some fresh air.
Don't bother. I have window locks. When I put them on and my dog can't get the window down she farts. She's always excited about car rides which apparently messes with her digestion which leads to eye watering dog farts. Suffice to say, the windows go down anyway.
I wouldn't they are nice to drive just they aren't cheap to run, a service cost me ยฃ160 the other week and I needed 3 tyres which then cost me an extra ยฃ270
I guess most peopleโs back windows donโt move either by that analysis. I drive a four-door SUV and the rearmost side windows also donโt move (theyโre mostly in the luggage compartment)
My one back window doesn't go up or down sometimes unless I got to the back door, press the window button, and either push down or pull up on the window. the weather stripping folds over and gets caught. I've tried and tried to find some way to keep it from doing that, but the car is all but 25 years old, so there are some things that you just have to accept.
graebot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never think of Crown Vics as a POS. I had a 95 Crown Vic Police Interceptor. I deliberately beat that car to shit and it never died. Granted the body was rusting, and the door panels had all fallen off at least once, but fixed that with some screws straight into the door frame. I still say that was the best car I ever owned. Sold it few years back to upgrade to a newer car..... I still miss it
302HO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had 4 (88 Grand Marquis, 90 Crown Vic, 96 Crown Vic, 08 Grand Marquis) as daily drivers and I don't ever want to be without one. It'll be harder since they stopped making them in 2011 but I'll always have one.
I'll replace it as a daily driver with a truck but I'll always have a full size Ford - It's the only way to drive.
I've had mine for about 10 years now. It's a POS but it is my POS. Luckily for me the car is effectively worthless right now, so when I get another car I'm going to keep the Vic and try to rebuild it. I tried to trade it in on the last car I tried to purchase and the vendor told me he'd give me the 500 KBB value (independently verified) not to leave it on his lot!
I guess it depends on what you call automatic locks. My last vacation to France I rented a Peugot something or other and so long as you had the key fob with you, the car would unlock when you approached. It would also lock itself as you walked away. Literally brilliant. I'm not thinking that's what we have been talking about though. I was envisioning just remote locks, kind of like OP meant power windows, most likely.
I mean, if he wants to lock his car he has to hit the little tab on each door by hand, if he wants to unlock them he has to go and pull each one up by hand.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Where do you live? I've never seen a car with power windows where not all the windows were powered. They're either all powered or all manual windows.
I just looked up Opel and it turns out they were owned by GM from 1929 until just recently when a French automaker bought them on August 1st, 2017. But yes, Opels are Buicks in the US. They are suppose to be a luxury car brand here but really only grandparents drive Buicks.
What part of the world do you live in? In the US I haven't seen a manual window in many years, and definitely not in any car made after the mid 2000s. Even the absolute lowest base model of every vehicle comes with motorized windows, and manual ones would likely have to be some kind of special custom aftermarket modifications.
I live in the US, my 2009 Nissan Versa had manual locks, manual windows, and the stereo could only play uncompressed audio cds (no mp3 cds, also didn't have an aux port). It was admittedly a basic model, but manual windows were definitely a thing in stock models even in the late 2000s.
Toyota 4 Runners had them as far back as the 1980s. Your mileage may vary.
Drew707 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am unsure if you mean your car has electric front and mechanical back, or you haven't seen auto electric back. My 1999 RX300 has auto up and down on all four doors. That is pretty standard for Lexus since that time.
What country are you from? I haven't seen a new car with window cranks for at least 10 years, except for pickup trucks and a base model Hyundai Accent around 2013.
some-dev ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:00:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UK, I mean almost everyone I know drives second hand cars and I don't own a car at all, but I've definitely been in cars built in the last 5 years. My brother has a Mercedes which he got brand new about 3-4 years ago and even that has manual windows in the back.
UK here, too. Not sure I've ever seen electric back windows. Never really been in a very fancy car but my mum's approx. 4yo Audi A1 has manual back windows. My girlfriend's work car is a 17 plate with manual back windows, too.
Wow, my '93 Buick has all power windows. Of course, that was more the exception than the rule back then, but I must admit I've literally never seen a car that has electric windows only in the front. I've only ever seen cars that either have all electric windows, or all hand-crank windows, never both. That's just super weird to me.
That's not a thing in the US. We refuse to believe that a Mercedes can be an everyman's car, to the point that Daimler designed two new classes, GLA and CLA, to sell here because we wouldn't touch the A-class. "Hatchback" is a dirty word here, and German cars must only be upmarket.
Screw the rest of you, I love my 190, despite it having fewer amenities than the Toyota I had before it.
Itโs funny though. Volkswagen is generally seen as cheaper in the US than in Europe. GTIs can be had for ~21000 USD compared to like ~ยฃ29000 I think at the cheapest
"Hatchback" is a dirty word? Why, though? I love hatchbacks. I never understood why everyone else I know hates them. I think they're convenient; I loved my Spark when I still had it. R.I.P., Blossom. :(
I love hatches, too. Soccer mom's won't touch them, though. America is big-- why would I buy a small car to get Kayden and Aidan to practice if I could get a Tahoe?
If you only have 2 kids, you don't need some huge monstrosity of a vehicle. I never understood that. My family only ever had me and my little brother, and we never had anything bigger than a regular sedan, except for a few years when we had this really nice van that was almost a camper, but we only ever used that when we went to Canada. A Chevy Sonic or something similar in size is plenty big enough for a family of four, and it comes in hatchback. Let me tell you, just judging from my Spark, the trunk space in hatchbacks are ridiculous. I couldn't believe how much room was in the back of that tiny Spark! And my best friend's Fiesta (a piece of junk, actually, but we won't go there) has more room than she could ever fill up unless she decided to pack up her whole house. So I don't understand why soccer moms would refuse a hatchback. They're extremely convenient, not to mention the gas money saved because they are much more efficient, usually, than a minivan or an SUV. That, and I think they look pretty awesome, too. I'd love to be able to find a cheap, reliable hatchback when I have to look for a new car come the new year. crosses fingers
There is nothing that a family car needs to do that a Subaru wagon won't do... Except for the head gaskets and timing belt, but that's really just the EJ-series motors.
My suggestions for a cheap, reliable hatch would be a Honda Fit (not first generation), Toyota Yaris, any of the Scions, a Prius, a Civic, or a Corolla hatch if you can find one.
Having worked for "American" car companies, I can't urge you enough to buy Honda or Toyota.
Ahahahaha. You just listed pretty much all the car manufacturers I am not a fan of. My dad has been a mechanic all his life; he owns his own business. He literally works on whatever people bring him, so he's worked on pretty much every make of car you can get in the States. He prefers Chevy, and generally domestic over imported, but he's not averse to non-American vehicles. When I have to look for a new car come the new year, though, I'll only be able to use what I get as a tax refund for it, as my credit is not all that great. It's in the "fair" range, so I'm guessing it will be difficult to find a loan. That, and I really can't afford another monthly bill right now, unfortunately. So, basically, I'll just have to find the best cheap car in the area, under $1500. :/ I had bought a brand-new 2013 Chevy Spark from a local dealership toward the end of 2013; the dealer actually had to order it for me, because they couldn't keep them on the lot. It was, hands down, the BEST car I could have wished for: amazing mileage, small but safe, and I loved how it looked, too. I was planning on keeping it for forever, but literally 1 year and 2 days after I got it, as I was driving to work in the winter, a lady going the opposite direction hit a patch of black ice and skidded, hitting me and slamming me into a road sign. My poor Blossom was totaled. I would love to get another Spark someday, but right now I just can't. :( So, what I would actually like to get, if I can find one, is a Chevy Cobalt. They're reliable and easy to fix, and they're pretty good on gas, which is what I especially need, as I drive 100 miles/day 5 days/week. But I basically have to take what I can get come new year. :/ Oh, well, it is what it is. I don't really want to retire my beloved Bessie, though, but she just needs too much work to pass inspection, and she's not worth more than $500 at this point; she's all but 25 years old.
Thanks. I will definitely keep that in mind. I have notice, though, that they're hard to find at decent prices. People seem to always want more for them than they're worth. -_- I honestly have no clue what I'll end up with, though, unfortunately.
Uk here as well, I seem to have a quite different experience to some-others here as the majority of cars I have seen have electric back windows. A few don't but most I have seen do.
But forreal though, the lowest spec models of German cars is usually pretty poor, you skimp on the day to day niceties to be able to say you own a Merc.
The automatic transmission systems that have been used in fiestas and focuses for the past several years are known to have first gear issues. Cars will often shudder or shake when accelerating from a stop; it feels as if the car is going to stall sometimes.
Instead of addressing the issues years ago, Ford has continued to use the faulty transmission in their cars and have "fixed" the problem by allowing people a one time replacement of a transmission part, which helps temporarily, but the shuddering returns.
Here's a class action investigation into the problems. For some it seems to have been an issue with brand new cars, and for others it seems to pop up 60,000 miles in or so.
Crank windows, yea, but not powered in the front and crank in the back. Not in the US at least. Most base models even come with power windows all around, too, though.
Wow, what year was that? Even my brand-new, 2013, lowest level Spark had power windows, but it did not have power locks, or even a key fob to open the locks. Still LOVED that car and miss it every single day. (Some person hit me when they hit a patch of black ice, and it totaled my car. :( It was literally 1 year and 2 days old that day.)
Strange. Maybe they started skimping after 2013.... And thanks; it did suck. Hopefully someday I'll be able to get another. I just want another 2013, though, not a brand-new one. :)
The motors can get weak. That's what happened in my car, and I kept forgetting and putting the window down and then was never able to put it back up again. So my dad disconnected the window button. According to him, "Now you can push that button all you want, and nothing will happen. Have fun." So, yeah, the motors can get weak, and then you essentially have an immobile window.
Oh. I've seen it happen to more than just my car. But, then I again, I live in the land of "if it still gets you from A to B, don't get rid of it yet". It's a regular occurrence to see cars that are probably worth no more than $200-$300 driving around. My car is 25 years old and only worth about $500, and that's being generous. Ahaha!
We have a lot of salt here, too, in the winters, but, surprisingly, only the bumper is rusting out. I'd have to get a new one to pass my next inspection, but there's too much else wrong with her, anyway, so I have to retire her come March 1st. :( I'll miss poor old Bessie.
As a mechanic...they break more than you might realize and much more often than a manual crank. Switches go bad, wiring can go bad or get messed up, the motor/regulators can fail...in a manual crank its pretty simple and if it starts getting hard to turn just lube up and clean the mechanism.
Automatic windows almost never break down anyway. Thatโs like buying a double barreled shotgun because youโre afraid a pump action one will jam. Sure itโs more reliable in theory, but at a certain point it doesnโt matter anymore.
Dodge neon? That's the only car I have seen partial power windows on. Tell me there aren't more.
Zedoack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well aren't you lucky... All my windows are manual! And I drive a 2012!
I'm sure it cost the company more to put in manual windows than it would have been to put automatic ones in. It's just that by putting manual windows in, they encourage people to get the higher model car.
lizbia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My front windows are manual!
funkyb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ideal car would have a manual driver's window and the other three automatic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husbands truck was manufactured as a work utility truck everything is manual (it also has a temp gauge for the transmission which i think is pretty cool)
Nprguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait just the back ones? I mean I was only born in the early 90s but I've never seen a car with only the front windows being powered. Either all manual or all power.
newloaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! Seems like this one is never going to die.
Also, brand new cars are being produced today with 4 manually controlled windows.
Same here, and I'm glad they are. When buying my truck (used) a lot of owner reviews mentioned the electric motors were specific to that model and year of truck, making them hard to find and expensive, and usually died every 30k miles or so. One reviewer said he just bought a box of em and only swaps out the driver's door and says screw the passengers.
Even if they are manual I would say the term Rolling Up or Rolling Down is probably related to the canvas style coverings. Such as rolling out a canvas tent. Some Jeeps could be argued that they still have to "roll' their windows up or down but even the hand crank isn't really rolling.
bonjones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2016 truck at work has manual windows. My 1998 car has electric windows front and back and sunroof, and they all close automatically when I lock the car.
[deleted] ยท 414 points ยท Posted at 15:27:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some brand new base model f150s still have the manual windows.
GTE520 ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 16:39:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing stopping me from wanting that trim package is no cruise control.
[deleted] ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 16:40:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live up north so I can't even use cruise control for half the year, the extra $6,000 for cruise control isn't worth it
Imaskeet ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:22:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I must be missing something. What would weather/time of year/location have to do with being able to use cruise control or not?
[deleted] ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 18:24:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't supposed to use cruise control when roads are wet or when they could be icy because if you start to hydroplane/slide the car actually accelerates to maintain the same speed.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:37:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless it has traction control, that will disable cruise.
Until your traction control system shits the bed in a less than 7 year old car and it cancels your cruise constantly and FUCK YOU SVC TIRE CONTROL MONITOR. I WANT TO CRUISE DAMNIT. I hate newer cars and their damn electronics so much sometimes.
Disable tcs. I have a relay in my car that automatically 'presses' the 'tcs off' button so I don't have to do it every time.
Demache ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SVC TIRE MONITOR is a TPMS error, likely because the battery on one of the tire pressure sensors died (7 years actually sounds about right for lifespan). That's an entirely different thing. Generally when your traction control system has issues, ABS will too, since they share wheel speed sensors.
Also, it sounds like you have have a GM. They can make amazingly durable powertrains but lord have mercy when it comes to their electronics, especially if its from the 90s or 00s.
AJRiddle ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:08:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's just exagerrating on the half-the-year.
If you live anywhere where snow doesn't melt during winter you shouldn't use it from late-December to early-March.
So basically the coldest fifth or so of the USA and all of Canada except for BC.
lesonj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How come BC is exempt?
AJRiddle ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because the part where people live in British Columbia is warmer than half of the USA in winter.
Just like Seattle is the northernmost major city in the USA but it rarely snows.
Roevhaal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:08:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't Anchorage count?
AJRiddle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:09:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean major city in the USA generally means top 30-40 largest metropolitan areas.
The Anchorage metro area ranks 133rd in the USA. It would be 11th if it were in Canada though lol.
Roevhaal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, I though they be ~50th
lesonj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just wondering because I live in the interior of BC and our winter months are definitely cold/icy enough to deter the use of cruise control. I'm guessing you're talking about the Vancouver area.
AJRiddle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean what's the population of BC on the coast vs inland...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AJRiddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Appalachians or northern edge of PA? Pretty sure Philly and Pittsburgh doesn't stay cold enough consistantly for it to not melt.
Roevhaal ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:18:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Late december to early march usually have good driving conditions, it's the constant melt and freeze prior and after that which makes the road slippery.
I bought a 2016 Nissan Frontier that had manual windows and locks but has A/C and cruise (and, weirdly enough, steering wheel audio controls). Simplicity in a work truck is really nice but I gotta have my cruise control.
we have a 1999 corolla LE with auto everything, cruise control AND AC (that still mostly works fine except when over 30 deg C or so where it can't keep up).
two years ago a neighbour backed into it with his ram (talk about poetic justice) on the street when getting out of his spot forgetting he was in reverse, and our insurance company tried to convince us to total it. we fought tooth and nail for it to have it repaired, and now are still driving it.
With only 180k kms, at this pace its probably still gonna last 7 years at least.
the gas mileage sucks however: probably worse or just on par with a modern CRV with CVT... :P
On Chevys you can just buy the buttons and plug them in and bam, you got cruise control. Same with steering wheel audio controls.
TeamJim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My old work truck (2013 f-150) had crank windows and it sucked because it was wide enough that I couldn't reach over and roll the other window down while I was driving, and with only one window down it got the coke bottle effect. So I never used the windows. My new work truck has power windows and it's great.
Iโve had it in my vehicles for years and have used it here and there. Iโm not a fan. And this is from someone who drives about 40-50k miles a year.
Yoshi_XD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you're on a road trip with nobody else on the road for miles, it's great. You maintain the same speed, can take your foot off the pedals you give it a chance to relax, fuel economy goes up. I use it any time there's no cars ahead of me when I'm going to be in the interstate for more than 30 minutes.
No. The gearing in the doors is clearly meant to have a (relatively) high rpm electric motor, instead of the manual crank, so you turn and turn and turn that crank, and the window barely inches down in them.
Gets suuper annoying
TeamJim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a completely different mechanism. The gearing isn't the same. They put a low gear ratio in them to reduce the amount of force required to move the window.
I don't know about the newer ones, but you could get cruise control with manual windows/locks on 2010 f150 models
ascii42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2006 Mazda B2300 (Same thing as a Ranger) has manual windows and locks and has cruise control. Which is particularly interesting because it also has a manual transmission.
Oh for sure. It's just a crank vs. wiring, fuses, and a motor.
Edit - also at least one switch.
TeamJim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true at all. My company's old work trucks for instance were 2007-2013 F150s. A Motorcraft manual window regulator was about $80. An electric one with the motor was about $8 more. You can get just the motor (the part that usually goes bad) for about $45. Installation is about the same, you just remove a plug instead of the crank.
when fleet owners sell there old trucks is a good time to get a exspincive truck cheap.
like this company my dad worked for uses 2010 ford f150s in a few years there getting new trucks again. they auction off the old trucks the last time they sold trucks my buddy picked up an 04 that was like new. yea it had 400k miles on it but its fleet they get serviced once a month or more.
Having been around guys who drive work trucks, and seeing how they treat those trucks, i tend to avoid fleet trucks like the plague. They're cheap as fuck because they have maybe 10k miles left in them before they throw a connecting rod through the block.
Sure man, or you can spend the money from the work truck + New drivetrain you just installed and buy a truck that actually works, and not have to do a drivetrain swap.
It will be a drivetrain swap, too. The transmission won't be far behind the engine in failure since the truck was romped on like it was a sports car.
My girlfriend has a 2016 Chevy Spark and she requested them because she's seen too many electric windows break so she prefers the old style roll up windows. You can also roll up your windows when the car is off.
You can also roll up your windows when the car is off.
This. I really like this feature of manual windows.
Also I like being able to just roll the window down an inch or less to get a little circulation. In my stupid van, you touch the thing and it automatically rolls down the entire way, unless you hit the up button. Annoys the hell outta me.
TeamJim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of cars you can roll the windows up and down with the car off until you open the door. Some vehicles (I know VW is one) you can simultaneously roll all of the windows and sunroof open or closed by putting the key in the driver's door, and turning it to lock and holding it to close, or unlock and holding it to open.
Pretty sure you can get manual windows on every trim with the Jeep Wrangler, except maybe the Sahara. Iโm not even sure if my generation came with power windows, and mines an 06.
TeamJim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No power windows in Wranglers until the JK. I'm pretty sure you can get any trim level wrangler with crank windows still
Even F-250s and F-350s. My boss's ~2016 F-350 still has manual windows. I think they're more common as fleet vehicles in construction where the company doesn't care at all about the extra comforts, every dollar saved is reason to buy a Truck.
The_Bald ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:52:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once saw a total fuck nugget in a silver jeep wrangler drive onto the sidewalk of a street corner so he could yell at the elderly couple in front of him about how "you aren't supposed to go straight in this lane, you're blocking people like me who need to turn" even though this intersection didn't have turn lanes, only 2 lanes going east/west and north/south. He then proceeded to go around the elderly couple's car and merged with the east/west traffic after driving off of the grass/sidewalk.
I think of this man often and how much of a absolute turd that he is and then I think about the kinsmanship I see on the road when two jeep drivers see one another. I think about how I don't think many of them would approve of how he tarnished the Jeep name that day like he no doubtedly does every other day of the year.
This is not a dig on jeep drivers, it's just my observation of how this buttmunch has bought his way into a road club that I do not think actually wants him.
only recently did i learn how damn slow even the modern jeeps are. walking them in my miata is a guilty pleasure because the only other thing i can do that to is a minivan
ItsLSD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Miata brethren :) Save me from these jeepanderthals
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:49:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like my slide windows. How quickly they can be opened and, even better, watching people try to figure out how to open them makes up for the fact that they only open half-way.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt mind them. The visibility is kind of a pain sometimes though
Same here, bought a brand new 97 TJ, soft top with half doors. Zippers for 14 years. Finally traded in for new 13 JK Umlimited with a hard top. I didn't get all fancy with the upgrade; manual windows and locks. ;)
You're not cool until you have to open the door to roll the window down because the A-pillar of your roll cage prevents the knob from rotating all the way around. '93 YJ, slightly built.
Jeep owner here. But now it's a grand. I miss not having doors sometimes....but then I get on the highway and its just so darn quiet. Also, I'm old now.
I spent many a year with my old wrangler in college that at zip up windows. Now that graduated i took my spot up on this glorious ivory tower and Iโm not coming down
I love manual windows. If vehicle ownership has taught me anything it's that power windows are the first things to go on any vehicle. Manual windows will outlast power ones always.
That, and I can roll them up and down while the car is off!
I fucking love manual windows.
VVillyD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had power windows go out in any vehicle I've owned. I've seen it in others' vehicles, though.
I like mine because you can roll them up or down without having to turn the car on. Plus it's one less cheap electronic part to break. But you're right, the passenger side window is a pain.
2012 Nissan Versa: Manual transmission, Manual Windows. The most technologically advanced thing in the car is the air bag system. Do you have issues with your exhaust welds? I noticed my car was LOUD one day so I ended up having to JB weld the fittings on the exhaust pipes. Additionally the skid plate only lasted a year cause I hit a puddle that was up to the bumper and tore all the clips off. had to re-snap the front and rear bumper onto the car. Replaced the clutch after 50k miles. Basically had the worst time with this car so far. I'm at 80K miles now.
Or the trunk. Have to walk outside and use the key to open the trunk
Myolor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I had problems with the exhaust welds, my muffler was left hanging loose some time last year and had to get re-welded on. I have an automatic, currently at 70k miles, still runs great. Do you have ABS? It really sucks in Minnesota not having it.
Regardless of the effect on the economy, it incentivized people to destroy vehicles that were capable of being used to commute to jobs that could be afforded by the poor, and ultimately caused a large inflation of cost for the used vehicle market.
My dad and his wife recently purchased a 2016 Nissan Versa. Super bare bones: manual transmission, manual locks, and manual windows. But they're happy with it and it was CHEAP for a newer car.
Myolor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep I have manual locks too, mine didnโt even come with a radio, fully wired with speakers but no head unit.
Same. I literally paid 16k for my car brand new. I just tell people to lock the doors. It was honestly worth it for me to get a manual transmission. I know it is the price I pay for manual transmissions. They are either is super expensive cars or cheap ones.
pittipat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our 2015 Versa has manual windows...and door locks. Don't mind the windows. the door thing sucks!
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:17:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The funny thing is that this isn't even referring to manual windows, it's referring to wayyyyyyy back when windows were covered in fabric and you would "roll down" the fabric to open the window up.
Around 6 weeks ago my 9 year old son was riding in a moving van with me. He asked how to put the window down and I pointed out the rolling mechanism. It was kinda surreal when he said "so that's what that means."
My 2013 Kia Rio is all manual. It would supposedly have cost $1500 for the power package. I didnt realize it wasn't standard on all vehicles by then. Saved myself $1500!
Vlarm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Utility" vehicles, such as full size vans, still often have manual windows.
Doesn't the mechanism still use rollers? We don't use a hand crank very often anymore, but I think they're still rolling up and down.
Firate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ellen Degeneres has a bit about this in one of her stand ups.
Itโs interesting that we still use the โrollingโ hand gesture when you want someone to lower their carโs window. It would look silly to mimic holding down a button for that request.
My husband bought a new car a few years ago. Didn't want to pay for all the feature packages the place was pushing. Fully manual window controls and he has to unlock his car using the key instead of a remote!
111uhh1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is turn up/down the window common for anyone else? I don't think we've ever used "roll" as the term here.
I mean, itโs still relevant. My 2012 Econoline work truck still has manual windows.
wardrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, I was actually watching a Christmas Movie the other day from 20+ years ago where they showed a cop rolling down the window in their car. I wonder if kids today even know what the hell they were doing
Skytuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering how old the average car on the road is this term is definitely still used literally.
what would the alternative even be? just โput the window downโ. itโs not necessarily enough to just say โopen the windowโ because thatโs a different thing.
hmmmm
fishkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These will never go away. Neither will manual door locks. Companies and universities buy them in particular for their vehicle fleets so there is less to break (and then fix) on the car.
bulletv1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 2017 you can still get a Ford Super Duty truck with manually cranked windows. It's a one of the F-250XL chassis cab models. I like calling it my boss is a dick package. No radio, no ac, manual locks, and manual window cranks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until 2013 I was driving a '94 Civic with manual windows. My nephew got in the car and had absolutely no idea how to open the window. I'm old.
jdehnke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this!! My youngest step brother had no idea how to roll down the window of my 97 jeep, and I was like what?? How do you not know this?!?! He's always had power windows and was confused there was no button. We're 10 years apart.
I absolutely hate manual windows. Surprisingly, I drive an '85 Celica, but it has power windows.
Who wants to have to reach over to roll up or down the passenger window? Need to roll up your passenger window on the freeway? You technically can, but it's super unsafe. What if you're passing by an area where something smells terrible? What if there is a bunch of a dirt in the air?
I was trying to instruct my son to get the driver next to us to roll down his window. I told him to move his arm like this, and then made it in a circular motion. And he looked confused and asked me "Why would I do that?"
A solo commentator on Eurosport was musing about this on Saturday when referring to the arm motion skiers do when they catch some air. He said โif youโre too young to know what means, go ask your mum.โ
My niece asked me why we say that the other day and I had to explain to her that way back in the 1900's we had to manually roll up the windows with a crank. She called me old :(
shred1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid and learned how to ice skate we called that arm motion when you were falling and waiving your arms around in a circle "rolling down the windows". Now that I'm older and I use that phrase the young guys on my hockey team don't get it.
When I was a kid it was really exciting when we got to ride in a car with electric windows. My kids get excited when they find themselves in one with manual winders.
If I ever bought a new car I would insist on manual windows if I could get them. I've never had a car with electric windows where at least one didn't go bad and I've never seen a manual window fail yet.
Going way back with albums I don't recall a lot of people calling songs tracks. I think it's more likely it came from the usage of the word in recording studios and eventually carried over.
Multitrack recording (MTR)โalso known as multitracking, double tracking, or trackingโis a method of sound recording developed in 1955 that allows for the separate recording of multiple sound sources or of sound sources recorded at different times to create a cohesive whole.
"Track" makes more sense coming from a tape background using trains as an analogy. I'm imagining the rollers and head of the playback machine as the "track" and the tape as the train. I have absolutely no basis for this comment though, just a thought.
It's more about where on the width of the tape the data is recorded. On a standard audio cassette there are 4 tracks each taking up a quarter of the width of the tape. Two of the tracks are the left and right audio and the other two are left and right for the other side. A 4 track cassette recorder (used for audio mixing) simply uses all 4 tracks as mono audio tracks, thus these cassettes are considered one sided despite being no different than any other audio cassette.
I should have actually written "recording" head instead of playback head, also I was referencing reel to reel tape recording in multitrack productions as opposed to a standard cassette tape.
It works the same way, cassette tape is a bit narrower than the standard 8mm reel to reel tape, but if it's stereo there's still at least 2 tracks.
They went with a cassette for production because they figured that most people (of which I am not) wouldn't enjoy threading the tape through the machine like I do.
Since we're on the subject and I'm drunk and love this kind of stuff, a VHS tape has 4 tracks, 2 for left/right audio, one wide one for the video, then a control track to tell the VCR how much time is left until the end.
On 35mm projection film, there's the image frames that take up the majority of the width of the film, but then there's the optical audio tracks along the edge which appear as waveforms, basically these waveforms define how hard the amplifier needs to push on the speakers. In this case, the waveforms also contain digital data to be processed by a Dolby or THX receiver for surround sound.
In IMAX there are no audio tracks on the film because the audio runs off a computer synced to the frame count from the projector. Before the computer system they used a 35mm reel to reel tape with 6 tracks, one for each speaker, front left, front right, rear left, rear right, center front and center front top (above the regular center speaker). The sub-bass is between the two center speakers and is driven by a mix from all 6 channels. The computer system (called DTAC for Digital Theater Audio Control) drove the system the same way as the tape with 6 separate WAV files playing simultaniously.
Modern IMAX systems are 100% digital with no film likely use a proprietary audio system that I know nothing about but assume is similar, but the old school system is still found in some museum theaters which have yet to go digital, such as the dome at the Mugar Omni Theater at the Museum of Science in Boston.
So what we really need to determine is if the term "track" was being used widely during the decades of mono leading up to the introduction of stereo recordings.
when i was doing college radio, frequently played songs and commercials were recorded onto 8 track cartridges and played thru a tape deck built into the mixing board.
wildgift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were probably mono carts. Similar to 8-track cartridges, except they had only one or two audio tracks, and another track with a tone to indicate the end of the audio. That way, you could queue up multiple carts and run them in sequence.
youre right now calling them CUTS was definitely due to the cuts in the vinyl. but tracks came from the studio track recording and artists going in to lay down a track.
I'm going to beg to disagree strongly. While technically there's only one 'track' on an LP record, if you look at the surface, individual numbers were laid out in "visual" tracks in order to let users choose where to drop the needle -- which track they wanted to play. see image here if you (or any reader) has never really contemplated playing vinyl.
That was seriously common DJ talk, though. I'd bet anyone listening to Casey Kasem on satellite radio these days can still hear him say "this is the latest hot track from the Thriller album" or something like that.
Magnetic tape also has parallel tracks. Cassette tapes have four tracks, two for stereo channels on side one and two for stereo channels on side two. You can also use all four tracks in the same direction to record four different mono sources concurrently for mixing later.
Just imaging the possibilities if there were 8-tracks.
sovamind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also when magnetic tape technology advanced to be able to record multiple lines of data onto a single tape, each line was called tracks, called multi-track recording. In some uses each track would contain a separate song/recording and the tape would be used one direction, then reversed for the next song/recording, then continue until out of songs/tracks. When CDs arrived you could instantly jump to individual songs and they kept the term track to differentiate because each track wasn't necessarily a song.
Another later use was to record multiple instruments or microphones on each of the tracks. This could be done simultaneously or have each track done one at a time. This allowed bands or performances to do each part separately and then combined later. This allowed the ability to record songs without all the performers in the same place for a single performance and revolutionized the recording industry. You could also have each part recorded over and over and then select the best one, "taking" if for the final song to be "mixed" on the mixing consoles. We still refer to "takes" and "mixes" today.
They used to refer to this as "cutting a side" because the grooves were literally being cut and you only had enough time on one "side" for a single song (5 mins on a 78? Don't remember)
I think you're thinking of a 45 - it held just enough for one pop song. I presume that's why most singles are 3-4 minutes long, even today.
doglks ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:30:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This also has an origin in dance music. When house music was just getting started the songs were referred to as "tracks" because the stripped down nature of the music meant they weren't initially seen as full songs.
Really? It seems highly inefficient. Electrical motors still have speed ranges where they are most efficient, so it would make sense to use those. Especially when the variation can be quite big.
skippygo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's interesting... not that I've never heard that phrase, but to me it seems like would make more sense to be "put it in first".
I think the idea is that 6th gear is your highest gear, which you do at your highest speed I guess? I've heard put it in first to refer to getting started doing something.
jfb1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manuals are common in the UK but I've never seen one with a 6th gear
The brake pedal is also an accelerator pedal. Hell, the steering wheel is an accelerator, too.
MarlinMr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:31:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You realise you are going back to the original term? A battery is a unit of artillery firing units. It has x amount of charge. That is where the electric battery got its words from.
Similarly I've heard people referring to the accelerator as a 'gas pedal'. No gas involved (doubly wierd in the UK as 'gas' means literally gas.. we don't use the term for petrol).
Still trips people up. It's about people's interpretation of things. If I tell someone my car is at 67%, they're going to think I have a weird way of tracking fuel use. Might even ask me how I know it so precisely.
If I say I have two thirds if a tank, I don't get follow up questions, it's just generally understand that I have two thirds of travel distance remaining.
I have a Volt so I say charge for the battery and tank for the gas (since it does both). However, I still refer to the accelerator pedal as "the gas" even when it's on electric only power.
My wife drives a van, so if I need to go far, then we use that. This car is a commuter car. I put a solar array on my roof and reduced my commute fuel costs from a $100 gas bill to an extra 500kWh a month, which equates to about $17 more on my power bill.
The Leaf has a Quick charge port, which gets me 80% of battery in about 30 minutes. Had one get me from 30% to 99% in about 25 minutes.
So, I just add time to longer trips. Charging is free in some areas too, so you save there.
I can get from Tampa to Port Canaveral and only stop to charge twice. Adds an extra hour to the trip, but it let's me stretch my legs and such.
I have no issues with this. But 90% if the car's driving is a single 30 mile, round trip, commute back and forth to my office at sub 60mph speeds.
Leaf also has an 8 year battery warranty, so if the battery drop below 60% of its original capacity I get a new one.
It depends, and it varies. The best source for charging information is Plugshare.com.
But it also depends on the vehicle you own. Teslas, for instance, use Superchargers, and are unique to Tesla. They will work with other chargers, but you need to get an adapter. They have the most compatibility though, technically, once you get the adapter in place.
Other EVs all have J1772 connectors on them, at the very least. J1772 is used for Level 1 and level 2 charging. Level 1 charging is at 120v and charges at 6 miles an hour, while level 2 charging is at 240v and charges at 20 miles an hour.
Then we move on to CHAdeMO and Combined Charging System (CCS). CCS is also referred to as the "Franken plug" as it combines J1772 with DC fast charging. These two standards will charge a vehicle up to 80% in about 30 minutes. But, they're unique to certain vendors. Chevy, for instance, uses CCS on their Bolts, while Nissan Leafs use CHAdeMO.
Now, "How common are charging stations around the country?"
Depends on the type of charging your trying to use. J1772 level 2 charging is what most places put in place, and is relatively common. Tesla's superchargers exist about an average of 100 miles apart. CHAdeMO and CCS chargers are less common, with CCS being the super uncommon ones.
I cannot drive my Nissan Leaf north of Gainesville, or south of Naples, at best. I could conceivable get to Miami, but it'd be a hell of a trip, on back roads at sub 60 miles an hour speeds.
So, "it varies" is the best answer. If you're not buying a Tesla, you're buying an EV with limited range, not because of the batter, but because of the charging infrastructure, which is really where Tesla shines. But, Tesla's chargers only work for Teslas. My Leaf can't use them, sadly.
plugshare.com is really the best resource for where chargers are though. Some areas are barren, while others are not.
I don't drive long distances in the car to begin with. I have owned it since March and had no reason to go beyond Port Canaveral. And that was a fun road trip. Hell, when I stopped to charge at a Nissan dealership, they were selling someone a Leaf and brought me in on the sale as an owner of Leaf. Was fun. Got to speak to the positives of the car and help a sale.
But, yeah. I haven't had a reason to go far. And if I do, just rent a car with the
And it sounds complicated, but I just keep an eye out for J1772 connectors or CHAdeMOs. My biggest challenge will start next month. For three months my commute will be 60-80 miles a day, which will tax my Leaf's range. I have a plan, but it'll chew up some time. But it's temporary, so it won't be an issue for long.
It's a fun car to drive too. And it was cheap. Got it for 15k, used, with 91 miles on it.
Eh, I've been driving a Leaf for a few years, I've gotten into the habit of telling people so they understand when I can't go somewhere because I "don't have enough charge" to get there and back, or I have to charge my car for a couple hours, etc. I also say accelerator rather than gas pedal. I've pretty much moved on from gas/fuel and mechanical terms. I just make sure everyone knows my driving situation. Of course, living in the Midwest, my friends frequently tease me about driving a "glorified golf car," but then I remind them I drive for free and win that discussion.
Not a term, but a sound. The camera shutter. smartphones obviously don't have them but we all sure as hell understand what the sound is. (I am aware DSLR's etc and old cameras still exist, but majority of everyday people probably wont use them or not straight away)
I once had someone at a wedding reception ask me to turn the "sound" off on my DSLR. I then had to explain how a camera works to them. Also, it was the fucking reception. Go somewhere else if I'm annoying you.
csl512 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:50:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Silent'/quiet shutter is pretty great for the ceremony. Shutter lag is a bit longer, IIRC.
The version of this on their FX cameras is really convenient. Press shutter down to snap the photo (quieter than usual), then move away to a safe place before releasing to slide the shutter and mirror back to the starting position.
Juniebug9 ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 18:24:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "photography" was created from the Greek roots ฯฯฯฯฯ (phลtos), genitive of ฯแฟถฯ (phลs), "light" and ฮณฯฮฑฯฮฎ (graphรฉ) "representation by means of lines" or "drawing", together meaning "drawing with light".
Whether it's reflecting light off of different inks or displaying a combination of millions of colors on a screen, I think it still works.
domromer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly enough the iPhone shutter noise is just reusing the sound designed by Jim Reekes for Mac computersโ screenshot function. I heard him interviewed on a podcast recently saying how weird it was to constantly hear this piece of work of his (carefully recorded from a real camera back in the day) out in the wild.
No their point is that camera shutter is a different "song" from the one with the film advance.
Heroicis ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 21:13:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not-so-fun fact: In Japan, iPhones and most smartphones do not allow you to turn off the shutter sound while taking a picture, in order to deter unwarranted up-skirt photography.
Less manufacturers and more telecoms that sell the phones. You can get same model phones that have the option, or flash to international firmware and get the option back on a lot of phones sold by Japanese telecoms.
SmokePot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoโs got two thumbs and a ticket to ups kit photography town? This guy!
When digital cameras first came out, they didn't have this shutter sound (duh). People didn't like it, "How do I know if it captured the photo on film?"... so the digital shutter sound was born.
On a related and slightly less dickish note, I have a fond memory of when someone gave a presentation at school on analog photography. He started by asking if anybody knows what analog photography means, and someone yelled "Old photography".
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:32:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think they're confusing mirror slap and shutters. It still amazes me that we haven't really found a better way to properly expose a digital sensor than with a mechanical shutter, but we haven't!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mirrorless cameras have been making their way into the high end camera market as of recent. From what I gather, they're pricier than a comparable DSLR though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, they're not necessarily more expensive, and some like the Sony A7R have excellent image quality.
It's the way forwards, but there are some kinks and ergonomics still to work out. For some styles of photography plus for nostalgia and familiarises sake the DSLR still has its place.
But even mirrorless cameras have mechanical shutters!
Design limitations, really. It's something we're hoping becomes more common in the film industry. Most digital cinema cameras employ a rolling shutter and the motion doesn't look quite right unless the scan-rate is fast enough.
My stills camera actually has a silent electronic shutter mode that also employs a rolling shutter. It can be incredibly useful for dead-silent moments, but if there's any fast motion in frame it gets all wonky.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:54:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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angruss ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:54:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My s6 had that. It's a broken mechanical auto focus. Samsung fixed it under warranty.
The (often non-functional) imitation or inclusion of features from older technology within newer forms is known as skeuomorphism. The sound of a shutter clicking on a digital camera is a great example.
bobbfwed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny story: I was at Hearst Castle taking photos with my DLSR. Someone on the tour with us, in all sincerity, commented on how realistic the shutter sounded on my camera.
I tried to explain it was actually making that sound, but it was lost on him that it was a mechanical sound, rather than an artificial one. I was very surprised by the comment, so I probably wasn't as articulate as I could have been. Even so, it's not even like he was a young kid. This was probably about 10 years ago, and he was likely in his thirties.
macgilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smartphones have the clicker sound by law here in Korea (and Japan I think), to prevent pervs taking upskirt photos. Classy
In some countries, it is required that the cell phone camera has an audible shutter sound to help prevent people being unknowingly filmed such as up-skirt pics.
Extempo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Due to an epidemic of upskirt photography in the early days of cellphone cameras, that shutter sound was made mandatory by law in Japan. Fear of getting caught slowed things down for an hour or two
This is true for most button pushes gone digital/touchscreen. We still need some sort of fake sound or feedback to know that we actually pushed it. It still makes me chuckle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I notice that most generic photo sound effects include not only the click of the shudder, but the brief whine of the film being rolled forward in an automatic camera.
I've heard that at least in Korea, phone cameras are required to make the shutter sound when they take a photo and you can't disable it, as a way to deter upskirt photos/creepshots.
Those fake sounds are showing up everywhere. Fancier modern cars play a turn signal sound then you use the signals. In reality they make no noise at all, but they want drivers to know theyโre in use.
Even ones like canon mark 1d? I always thought theirs was mechanical
orlet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 750D is still quite audible even in "silent shutter" mode. All it does, really, is separate the mirror flip-up and shutter activation in time and flips the mirror slower, resulting in longer but quieter activation sound. Still fairly easy to hear.
I haven't personally used a 1d Mk ___, but I shoot with 7D, 70D, and 5D mkiv, and you can silence the cameras. They're mechanical, but you have the option to silence.
Yeah I saw the zoom on that and I was somewhat creeped out, but also like holy shit. I can imagine that itโs a professional photographers dream. And unlike 1D itโs actually possible to carry normally.
Driver. Itโs used when you operate a car, but the term comes from controlling live stock, like being on a cattle drive. Horse drawn carriages had a driver that drove the horse to where they wanted to go. We really only operate vehicles now but the term driver has stuck around for a century past its core relevance.
Arod3235 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to say I agree
few23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thirty Helens Agree
firmly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And we still say โhorsepowerโ, which was a convenient conversion factor for marketing the โhorseless carriageโ to those coming from an, umm, horseful carriage and were used to having say 2 or 4 horses worth of power.
Isn't the word based on the verb 'to drive' which means to urge something, generally with a force involved. It's core relevance is just as valid for driving cattle as it is for driving cars, or driving screws.
jeegte12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:37:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you don't drive a car anymore than you drive a computer. there is simple mechanical input, no force or coercion required. you don't drive screws, you operate a screwdriver, which drives screws.
But if I operate a screwdriver, you could say I'm a screwdriver driver. Then you could say my boyfriend is going to screw a screwdriver driver. Now if he's going to have a dom tell him how to fuck me, that person would be a screwer driver driving a screwer screwing a screwdriver driver.
pyreon ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:59:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call using the computer driving. Like when I'm playing a single player game with a friend and I want to trade off the controls, I'll say "do you want to drive for a bit?"
jeegte12 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's clearly a joke
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:02:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is kinda more complicated then that. Look at the German words for drive; fahrt, gefahren, auto fahren and so on. It doesn't just mean drive in the sense that you are driving a car, but more along the terms of to lead, propel, ride or move.
Then take a look at a closely related word, fuhrer, like as in Adolf Hitler was the Fuhrer of Nazi Germany. A lot of people just think that this was the term for dictator or tyrant but it actually has more to it. By calling Hitler the Fuhrer, it was almost like literally calling him the driver or moving force behind the country.
I may be a little off on it, but this is how it was explained in my German language courses. The English word driver works in a lot of the same ways and can be applied to more than just "driving a car". You can have a driver for your computer, you can be far beyond driven, you can drive a nail into a board. It works in a lot of the same ways.
pHScale ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:27:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Admittedly the only 'knowledge' I have of this is from the Hugh Jackman movie 'Australia', but in that movie they call people who drove cattle 'drovers' because the drove the cattle from one place to another. Do you know how this changed to driver/how driver changed to drover?
And the Teamsters union, which now includes a lot of professions, was originally teamsters/truck drivers. They're known as teamsters because they used to drive teams of horses.
Mutoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also for that matter, "pull" in reference to moving a car in or out of a particular spot
civex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likewise, but perhaps less used in the English language than it is French and Dutch, is 'chauffeur'. It's now used for someone who drives a car but also originated from the time the chauffeur ("the heater") had to manually warm up the car engine before you could drive it.
To add to that calling out "shut gun" today to clam the front seat. Comes from the man next to the driver who actually carried a shot gun. For robbers and bears and other unforeseeable danger. But mostly for native Americans.
Cut and paste. From back when we physically cut up paper with text on it and glued it back down in a new place. Page layout used to be much harder!
MuseHill ยท 178 points ยท Posted at 19:29:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly "clipart" refers to the drawings that came in a book of full of stock images. You'd "clip" them out of the book (cut them out with scissors) and place them onto a page.
Even more similarly, 'lightbox' was an actual box of light that illuminated things (usually photos but also sometimes print layout compositions for magazines) from behind.
When I started in newspapers in the mid 90s we were still doing actual cut and paste. When we switched to desktop publishing several of the older editors said, "Yeah, I'm just gonna retire..."
I still have my roller and xacto handle. I miss the hot wax burns. sometimes.
sufjams ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:18:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked for a small paper, maybe 8000 circulation that reported a few isolated towns. They had their old printing press in the back garage, super cool.
One cool thing about cutting and pasting was everyone involved with editing could draft the layout throughout the week. I miss seeing the paper come together on the wall.
I do too. Ive worked for corporate papers, and Ive worked for small ones.
Actually, as I type this, Im laying out our weekly edition... and sitting where the original press was. Single-sheet printing press. Ahhh... the olden days!
What did you do there?
sufjams ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:45:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Started at 16 typing legals and taking photos of high school sports. But worked my way up to full time reporting until I quit at 21. Intended to study journalism and would go back to my paper in the summers. Buuuuuut started partying and gave up on school, fuck loans.
I once made a wax/office supply motorcycle.
Paperclips, nickels waxed together for wheels... best way to kill time. I even got one of those little bendy guys to put on it so it looked like it had a rider.
some asshole who thinks making a letter sized poster in PowerPoint is going to work.
Tell me about itโฆ
(I work for an equine breed-organization magazine, and some of our advertisers are less-than-savvy. The ones who are good and make things to spec are my favorite, as all I have to do is open our camera-ready InDesign template, place the file, and export.)
When you cc someone an email those two letters refer to the phrase carbon copy.
When letters were typewritten, a sheet of carbon stained paper was placed between two pages so that what was typed on top struck through to make a copy on the second page.
I remember my mom helped design my elementary school yearbook and it was literally her & another mom cutting out pictures of kids and gluing them as collages onto the pages. It's so weird to think that a lot of printed media was made this way.
Hot wax. Not glue. I used to literally do pasteup on a literal lightboard for a literal newspaper. With older people who had stories about the days of hot lead. And on that note: leading
ParksVS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet you had a ton of Letraset and the other company that did type setting materials but whose name escapes me, too!
Somewhere in my apartment, thereโs a pica pole and a blue pencil. Donโt think I have a proportion when, though
ParksVS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I grew up playing with so much cool (mostly outdated at the time) graphic design stuff. Bankers boxes full of Letraset, those really heavy duty markers, stock photo books, rollers, wax, shears. My mum is a graphic designer and has been since before computers were super prevalent in the industry.
Unrelated, but the amount of people who refer to copy and pasting as "cut and paste" irks me more than it should. It's quite literally two separate actions, and when you do that action, you actually click on the word cut or copy. How do you click the word "copy" and think "cut"?!?
You know what though? It perfectly describes what's happening on your screen. Unlike "hang up the phone" which makes no freaking sense, digital terms tend to make perfect sense. Cut and paste for life baby.
And modern keyboard shortcuts refer to this mnemonically.
To copy text, highlight said text, and press Control-C. C, of course, is the first letter of Copy.
To cut the highlighted text, press Control-X. X, of course, looks like a pair of scissors, which cut things.
To paste the text, press Control-V. The capital V looks like the shape of the nozzle on a bottle of paste held perpendicular to a sheet of paper.
Why not use Control-P to paste text, since paste begins with the letter P? Because in the olden days of personal computers, Control-P was already used to send the current work to the Printer.
craazyy1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:17:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also x, c, v are right next to each other, which is convenient
That's super interesting. I always thought copy/cut and paste was named that way because people would understand the function by analogy even though I assumed it was never done with actual paper.
My mom literally had a dictionary sized book full of pictures you would cut out and paste to make fliers and invitations.
kelaar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was how we edited our newspaper in middle school journalism class. And how we edited stories and such in grade school, until our teachers caught up to the times and learned how to use ClarisWorks so we could do it digitally.
I remember back when I was a kid many teachers were using literal cut and paste and photocopies (or even the manual one where you have to turn it yourself).
I'm actually on my first playththrough and it's only been about 5 hours since I started enchanting. I was like "holy fuck, yes". Now rides through the countryside swinging soulbound daggers at wolves is pretty therapeutic, hopping off the horse when I see "Ooo, butterflies!".
Very appreciative of the depth to this game beyond hack and slash dungeon raids.
You can become a god if you exploit a few small alchemy and enchanting mechanics. I have a set of armor that gives me so much health I can jump from The Throat of the World and not die.
Most TV stations will, if anything, say "don't touch that remote." Also, plenty of radios are still operated via dial.
MikeKM ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:43:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is 77 and I always heard the phrase "hand me the dial" as a kid when she wanted to change the channel...this was in the 1980s. We did have a tv with actual dials at one point (VHF/UHF), but that TV wasn't used much and we had others that used a remote. My wife makes fun of me for asking for the dial, sometimes I ask for the clicker too which gets extra chuckles.
Ratoara ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 20:45:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know if this fits the mold but โNimrodโ is occasionally used to refer to an unintelligent person. It is a reference to Nimrod the biblical king who was great hunter and who was never considered particularly dumb. The reason it is now used to refer to a dumb person is due to a Looney Toons episode in which Bugs Bunny calls Elmer Fudd โNimrodโ. It was misinterpreted as meaning stupid and the rest is history.
My children have misinterpreted "genius" (when Woody calls Buzz one at the gas station) and "dictator" (?) as insults. That last one makes me laugh every time I think about it.
I think this is more widely known in England than in the U.S., where the word carriage is typically only used in the context of a horse-drawn vehicle. In England, for example, they refer to a divided highway as a dual carriageway, and passenger train cars are referred to as carriages.
In my part of the UK at least, a bus and a coach are not the same thing. Coaches are for long distances, often private hired and don't have standing space, whereas buses have lots of standing room and not that many seats, and are used for short journeys.
Pohatu_ ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 18:03:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I'm from in the US, a coach is a specific type of bus like the one you mentioned. Any automobile meant for carrying lots of people is considered a bus. People usually don't make a distinction as to what type of bus unless its necessary. (For example, I get around my college town on a bus but take a coach bus home for the holidays, and my siblings ride a school bus every day.)
As far as I know, everyone around me calls a bus meant for long distance travel a Greyhound, after the company. It's like how Ziplocs are synonymous with zip closed plastic bags.
That's true. If there's no possibility of confusion everybody would just say "Bus" to a "Reisebus", too. But if a "coach" and a "bus" would stand next to each other, you'd call one "Reisebus" and the other "Linienbus" or "Nahverkehrsbus" or something similar.
Pohatu_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:26:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, my grandpa and his close family does the same thing but its always a Megabus.
fezzuk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never take a mega bus unless you have no choice, turns a 4 hour journey in to a 12 hour journey with a bunch of changes and needless stops, it's painful.
Pohatu_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then what would my grandpa have to complain about?
fezzuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she is anything like mine, everything?
Pohatu_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably would just complain about it being Megabus even if it isn't though, and you've got a good point.
Alx1775 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you are on a direct route, Megabus is awesome and cheap. Favorite way to get to NYC from Baltimore.
fezzuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's america I have no idea, in the UK you are better off building your own plane from scratch, it would take less time.
MattcVI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:54 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Megabus is hit or miss in the US too. Sometimes it's faster than Greyhound (fewer stops) but other times it's painfully slow. It's worth it for the quiet upper seats though, and not as many druggies in the back
I always assumed the greyhound thing was more of a southern U.S. thing because of the dominance of Greyhound coaches. Up in the north east Iโve almost always heard coach used for long distance bussing
I moved from Scotland to the US 6 years ago, and even now whenever I see a Greyhound coach driving around (around once a year at most) I think "Wow! Just like in the movies!"
Ha, I never really realize the difference of culture must be so interesting to foreigners and immigrants, being how diverse the world is yet, Hollywood has a dominant spot in world film culture. Like I always find films from the UK to be so interesting for this exact reason
America is a really interesting place as a Brit. It feels so familiar, because of the shared language and how much culture crossover we get, but at the same time almost every day I'm there (I've visited 5 or so times the last 4 years), something happens where it feels totally alien.
Weirdly, Japan gave me the total opposite experience - obvious strange and alien on the surface, yet I kept stumbling across things that just made sense to me despite having no reason to
I always kinda think of like Lane Pryce from Madmen, I think itโs probably similar to if you went to australia, canada, of new Zealand, like our countries have the same origin of the British Empire, I guess itโs just different because how early we became independent, yet how tight knit our nations are,.. like England and U.S. are both from the same father but two rebellious siblings... we get to see how things could have been
I'm a lifelong New Englander, but from what I've seen they're interchangeable up here. Coach is slightly more common, but no one will bat an eye at Greyhound.
In Scotland, we do the same except calling them Stagecoaches, after the company Stagecoach, which itself gets its name from the old fashioned stage coaches.
Mithent ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:25:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are long-distance buses (which I might call coaches?), generally National Express or Megabus, but I'd say that taking the train is more common for long-distance public transport in the UK. Maybe it's just where I live, but when I've considered using one of those other services, they've generally turned out to be significantly slower and often run infrequently at inconvenient times. Makes sense if they're a lot cheaper and you're not in a hurry, but usually I just go straight for the train.
Pohatu_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:30:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trains are fairly common, but not always a feasible form of transportation. There are a lot of really spread out areas not connected to major train lines, and you basically have to take some sort of bus either to your destination or a train station. Of course, this doesn't apply to everywhere. Plenty of places are connected by train here.
girl-lee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:06:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot more places used to be connected by train. I've seen a map of the UK railways around 50 years ago compared to now and it's been decimated.
Fucking Beeching cuts. Ripped out so much infrastructure. My hometown is slowly trying to rebuild the trainline now, but more as an attraction. We do have a lot of bike paths, though.
Same in america. The Official Guide to the Railways, a book that listed timetables for every passenger train in America and Canada, used to number over 1000 pages. The Amtrak System timetable is at less than 100 pages.
Iโm still blown away that two people from thousands of miles away from one another just a super interesting casual conversation that changes absolutely nothing about my life. How freaking cool are the times in which we live?
Pohatu_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It absolutely changes something! Broadening your worldview certainly changes something about your life, even if its something as trivial like this.
brearose ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:57:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in Canada. Coaches are more comfortable, for longer distances, everyone gets a seat, usually there's a luggage compartment, and there's a washroom. A bus is only for short distances, lots of standing room, nowhere for luggage, and no washroom
When compared to a city bus, they are pretty damn comfortable.
brearose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ones where I am are fairly comfortable, but they're all super expensive. But even if they aren't comfortable in the way your bed or couch is, they're more comfortable than regular buses.
School buses don't exist in the UK. At least, those single decker yellow things with stop signs you guys have don't exist over here. School buses here are usually just regular "city" buses travelling a different route.
rawbface ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:32:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
single decker
It's hilarious to me that you had to make this distinction.
Ahahahaha yeah it was probably unnecessary but I just wanted to make sure you guys knew I was talking about the actual vehicle itself not existing over here, rather than the whole concept of school buses
We don't have the traditional yellow school buses here at all. Most schools either use the public bus services or they hire their own coaches, or occasionally hire an actual bus. Or if the route doesn't get a lot of use then they might use a minibus.
A coach was any carriage designed to carry more than a couple of people. The first buses were sometimes called "motor coaches", because that was what they were.
Incidentally, the word bus is a shortening of omnibus, meaning "for everyone" in Latin - because the first such omnibus (a horse drawn carriage) was an experiment in transportation completely open to the public. Today, private, for-hire "bus" companies often still refer to themselves as coaches because "bus" traditionally implied anyone could board.
In the US, people used to refer to the cheapest seats on an airplane as "flying coach". Airlines don't really use this term any more (at least I haven't seen it in recent memory), but it's still common knowledge and you still occasionally hear people use the phrase.
The word coach actually comes from the name of a Hungarian town called Kocs (pronounced kind of like coch). The first carriages with dampening springs were produced here, and the Holy Roman Empire used them for postal service. Hungarians called it the "kocsi szekรฉr" meaning carriage from/of Kocs. The name quickly spread through Europe with the vehicle so most European languages use it in some form. Hungarian is no exception but "kocsi" means car instead of a kind of bus. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kocs
Buses and coaches are two different things in the UK
warpus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Canada and when I take greyhound the bus driver uses the term "coach" when referring to bus rules and such. Nobody else seems to use the term anywhere else. English is my 3rd language so maybe I'm way off here but my guess is that Greyhound (the company) forces bus drivers to use the term "coach" because it makes their service seem less shitty somehow
From the UK didn't know that! Also carriage is not widely used other than the aforementioned "dual carriageway" or "hackney carriage" which is the official name of a licensed taxi/black cab.
Yep, back in the days when coaches/carriages and chassis were built separately! I bet there's a way to figure out when the word carriage started dropping out of everyday usage and started being replaced by "car".
glatdos5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:45:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. Studying for a driving test in holland (im american) and the translated book was in english english. Took me a few extra googles to figure out what precisely was going on.
Passenger train cars are referred to as carriages in the US as well. Most Americans never interact with a passenger train in their life, though, so itโs not terminology they ever need to learn or use.
The opposite almost - Many people in England would refer to train/metro cars as "carriages". Thats just what we call them.
Carriageway is used to refer to roads ocasionally. Dual carriageways are named so because there's a central embankment seperating the two carriageways of traffic.
They tend to use railcar or railroad car. Which is more or less short for carriage anyway.
Here in the UK 'railcar' has a specific definition though, that's a carriage that is self propelled, i.e. it doesn't need a locomotive of some description to pull it along.
Also the proper word for a cab is โHackney Carriageโ and appears written on the back of most of them saying โLicensed Hackney Carriageโ.
YevansUK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A taxi is also called a Hackney Carriage (Hackney being a place in London). For a taxi driver to be allowed to drive they need a Hackney Carriage license.
In some parts of India taxis are called "Contract Carriages".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Legally in the UK they are "mechanically propelled vehicles". This is one of the reasons freemen (British sovereign citizens) aren't as successful because all the laws refer to "a mechanically propelled vehicle being used or kept on a road" rather than "driven". In addition, legally we don't drive whilst drunk. We are "drunk in charge" or "operated a mechanically propelled vehicle whilst under the influence". It doesn't stop them trying, but it does mean they aren't tolerated as much.
9loabl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that easy. We have 'Motorways' which are, as far as I've seen, always 3 lanes for each side. There is a crash barrier between the 3 lanes going the other way. Motorways have a speedlimit of 70 MPH. And motorways are called things like the M25 or the M6. There are exceptions, see third paragraph.
Dual Carriageway on the other hand are NOT Motorways in that they 'usually' have two lanes on each side. The speed limit on a dual carriageway is 'usually' 60MPH. These are usually the busier A class roads. Examples include the A1.
There are of course exceptions that will blur the boundaries that define the differences between what a motorway is and what a dual carriageway is. You have the A55 that runs along the North Wales coast, it's not a motorway, it's a dual carriageway but it's speed limit is 70 MPH. Then you have the A1(M). That is a motorway after it's a dual carriageway. And you have inner city roads like the A406 in London, it's a busy one so it has 3 lanes like a motorway. But the speed limit is probably something like 40MPH, maybe 50MPH in some parts. The names, class and speed of the roads might be different because of historical or geographical reasons.
aj240 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, but I don't think many people here make the connection between car and carriage despite that. I don't think its a widely known thing.
That is super wrong. They come from the same root word, the latin word carrus. "Car" and "Carriage" meant different things, and have both been around since the 14th century.
I looked them up on Oxford Dictionaries. According to it, the two words originated from different words. Are you sure you're not mistaken? Here's the link to the page.
Edit:
It appears OP is definitely mistaken. Car most certainly is not short for carriage.
I mean, using it in the modern sense isn't wrong. Language changes. And in this case, it only held the original sense for a minute to begin with - the sense of "a small bit of interesting trivia" gained currency almost immediately, and it's had that ubiquitous mean for far longer than it was predominantly understood to refer to something true-sounding but false.
Gars0n ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:35:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean they came from the same root word, but one is not short for the other
Gars0n ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:34:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually according to that link they are connected. Car comes straight from the latin word "carrus" while carriage comes from a French word "carier" which comes from carrus as well.
You're right. I should have been more thorough when I looked up the words. Thanks for pointing it out. OP's statement is still not correct, I'm afraid. Car doesn't seem to be short for carriage.
(I'll edit my reply to include your comment. It'll be more informative.)
:)
sua_mae ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:56:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually both are based on Latin carrus.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:51:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
c. 1300, "wheeled vehicle," from Anglo-French carre, Old North French carre, from Vulgar Latin *carra, related to Latin carrum, carrus (plural carra), originally "two-wheeled Celtic war chariot," from Gaulish karros, a Celtic word (compare Old Irish and Welsh carr "cart, wagon," Breton karr "chariot"), from PIE *krsos, from root *kers- "to run."
"From 16th to 19th c. chiefly poetic, with associations of dignity, solemnity, or splendour ..." [OED]. Used in .S. by 1826 of railway freight carriages and of passenger coaches on a railway by 1830; by 1862 of streetcars or tramway cars. Extension to "automobile" is by 1896, but from 1831 to the first decade of 20c. the cars meant "railroad train." Car bomb first attested 1972, in reference to Northern Ireland. The Latin word also is the source of Italian and Spanish carro, French char.
ate 14c., "act of carrying, means of conveyance; wheeled vehicles collectively," from Anglo-French and Old North French cariage "cart, carriage, action of transporting in a vehicle" (Old French charriage, Modern French charriage), from carier "to carry," from Late Latin carricare, from Latin carrus "two-wheeled wagon" (see car).
Meaning "individual wheeled vehicle" is c. 1400; specific sense of "horse-drawn, wheeled vehicle for hauling people" first attested 1706; extended to railway cars by 1830. Meaning "the business of transportation" is from 1520s. Meaning "way of carrying one's body" is 1590s, hence also "behavior, conduct, manners." Sense of "a part of a machinery which carries another part" is from 1680s. Carriage-house attested from 1761.
fsdgfhk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:32:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lots of automotive terms are from horse and carriage days. Coupe, cabriolet, sedan, roadster, even truck- auto manufacturers just borrowed terms from the pre-existing mode of transport.
lollytop ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dashboard comes from the same place. a board to keep mud from being thrown(dashed) at you from a horses hooves. From a TIL about a week ago.
It's not correct. The word car has been around for as long as carriage. They both come from the same or similar latin root but car generally referred to any wheeled vehicle while carriage was specifically a wheeled vehicle that carried people.
In Quรฉbรฉcois they call it un char short for chariot
Also what they call tanks in French
cchuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mind is sort of blown. It seems so obvious now that you say it but it has never once crossed that a word I use every day derived from a word that I am familiar with and know the origins of.
This makes much more sense to me when I think about the fact that early cars were often called "motorcars" - to distinguish that you're talking about a motorized carriage instead of a horse-and-buggy
This would explain why in the video game โFableโ at the begging of the game a kid makes mention of a โcarโ..... everything makes more sense now.
roho1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
interesting, that makes total sense but given how the A sound in Car and the A sound in Carriage are so vastly different I never made that connection.
Certain parts of the south still say "get down" when you're getting out of a vehicle.
"Are you going to get down?"
This is supposedly a holdover from climbing down out of a carriage, but still fits pretty well with jacked-up pickup trucks.
Related, the words taxi and cab (and taxicab) are short for taximeter cabriolet!
kindall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
taxicab is short for taximeter cabriolet. taximeter being the device that tracks the distance and time traveled to calculate the cost, cabriolet referring to a a light carriage drawn by a single horse. taxi and cab are further shortenings of this of course.
Pressing the gas pedal is going to be the same way. I drive an electric car, and pressing the gas pedal doesn't make sense, but it's easier to say then pressing the accelerator.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck. How did I never know this.
paross ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trunk would be just as irrelevant, as it referred to actual trunks strapped to the back of the carriage.
i love that taxi cab is short for taximeter cabriolet. who uses those anymore with uber tho?
Usakuun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going even further back, the Latin (Roman) word 'carrus' ('kar.rus/sa) is used as the definition of wagon, or cart. You can use the root 'car' in the way we used it today for 'automobile', or something that 'carries' someone from one place to another, or 'moves automatically' or 'autonomously'.
Latin is awesome because once you start looking, you can find bits and pieces of the language in all sorts of words in "Romance Languages", Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and variations of English (actually closer to Germanic) and Eastern European versions of Catalan and Romanian.
Using it to disect different words is like a rabbit hole. Scientific fields of study are classified by a Latin Root and Affix (at the end, opposite of Prefix, 'pre = before' or 'affix/after = post') with the part of -ology or 'study of' on the end.
As far as I know, there is no specific Latin Root for the concept of 'car' in the modern sense. In college, we would use carrus instead, but even keeping that in mind, it still seems strange to say: "Julia took the cart to the mall." Next time, she can take a horse = equus. She just loves equestrian events.
Edit: been awhile since college, but as a dead language, at least that part is consistent.
Yes! The dash board in a car is a term from the carriage too. When it was muddy, you put up the dash board in the carriage, so the horses wouldn't kick the mud up on you.
Fun fact: When the automobile came to Denmark (danish: automobil) a newspaper made a competition where the readers would compete to name the new thing. Winner was the reader who just took the last part of the word bil. Later it became the official word for the vehicle.
epwnym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Quebec they will use the term โcharโ (derived from chariot) for car. However char in Europe means a tank.
On the subject, two interesting titbits on coach-related words:
A "coach" is derived from the Hungarian town of Kocs (pronounced roughly as "coach"), which became synonymous with the manufacture/design of a particular light, fast coach with steel suspension in the late middle ages.
In the US, a popular make of heavy wagon was the Conestoga Wagon, whose drivers were said to favour smoking cheap cigars to help keep themselves warm - the cigars became known as "stogies" after the drivers.
And "carriage" comes from "chariot", so, oldest school.
4152510 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't, it comes from the word "carry"
cubosh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:59:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
etymologically they are connected indeed
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:29:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video
Confi07 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:48:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In America down south, I visiting a friend and they call shopping carts carriages as well, crazy when I first heard it.
kcho99 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:57:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word 'plumber' comes from the Latin 'plumbum', so it technically just means someone who works in lead. The word's origins date all the way back to the Roman empire, where the pipes were made of lead.
Of course, we've known since then that lead pipes makes your water give you lead poisoning. Nowadays, plumbers are very specifically not supposed to use lead for drinking water pipes, but we still call them that.
Also, plumbum is the reason the symbol for lead is Pb on the periotic table.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:42:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My chemistry teacher took an inordinate amount of joy in saying the name of the compound plumbus plumbate.
Also, a plumbline is a piece of string with a plumb-bob (traditionally a lead weight) at the end, used as a vertical reference, to ensure things are plumb (vertically in line).
This has survived the act of turning a dial being replaced by pressing down on physical buttons, and then that being replaced by smooshing your finger around on a touchscreen.
I think my favorite db fact is that the main guns of a Iowa Class battleship weigh in at 210 db. Meaning they're so loud they kill anyone within 100 feet or so.
Wert688 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:36:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't Iowa landlocked? They must really care about defending the Mississippi.
NZNiknar ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:32:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually a sound tech so I geek out about this stuff.
Sound is air pushing against other air. There is really no real difference between a sound and the shockwave a bomb makes, except for some super high level fluid dynamics stuff that basically creates a high pressure wave with a vacuum immediately following it.
Basically, the Iowa Class Battleship is the loudest thing humanity has ever made where there would be a chance of people hearing it (rocket motors and stuff like that are on that level too), but it actually hasn't quite reached that level where it creates the vacuum (and technically is not sound but a shockwave).
BUT, the sound is so loud that it would immediately rupture your eardrums and blood vessels. You ever heard of the bends/diving sickness? The air pressure of the sound of the blast would be like that, but in a millisecond.
The actual sound rating of the guns is about 210-220 db. Your eardrums instantly rupture at 160-170 db. Decibels are kind of logarithmic, meaning 90db is roughly double 80 db.
Here is a cool picture of the pure power of the sound.
telionn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:52:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Decibels are kind of logarithmic, meaning 90db is roughly double 80 db.
It's worse than that where it counts. The energy of the sound wave is 10 times stronger every time you go up 10 dB. Your puny eardrums don't care about perception of loudness.
The maximum OSHA-approved noise level for an 8-hour work day without hearing protection is 85 dB. This means a 215 dB sound is literally 10,000,000,000,000 (ten trillion) times more powerful.
Thank you for the reply, this is fascinating. But I still require clarification... So this means that people on the ship itself must be 100 feet away from the guns at all times when firing? Because there doesn't seem to be enough room to allow for every crew member to remain a safe distance in that case, given how spread across the surface of the ship the guns are. Does being inside the ship muffle the sound to safe levels and it's just people standing on the surface that are at risk?
I'm sorry for all the questions but I'm just finding it hard to imagine how a technology like this would be in use if it killed every friendly person within 100 feet of it. With something as loud as 220dB I'm not aware of any hearing protection that could even remotely bring the sound down to safe levels, so I assume I'm missing something.
The USS Iowa is 887 feet long. They very rarely fired all main batteries at once.
But more importantly, the sound is mainly focused forward, and the barrel of the gun is 66 feet long. The main epicenter of the sound is the end of the barrel.
Here's a rough mockup, red is the dead zone and yellow is the hearing loss zone (without hearing protection and/or being inside the ship). I'm eyeballing it pretty hard (and my original 100 feet estimate was based on what I know about jet engines, so it might be a bit off too because frequencies are different, although low frequency sound like guns actually goes farther), but those guns and those ships were fucking massive.
You are correct, being behind the bulkhead of a ship or being below deck would considerably dampen it, although I would still personally wear ear protection.
Thank you so much for the explanation. I was going to ask if it was only the area in front of the barrel that was the danger zone. The mockup helps visualize it, and in addition the ship is larger than I realized. I can see now based on the size of the ship and the direction of the sound that there would be safe zones to allow for a technology like this. I also hadn't considered that the image you linked with all the cannons firing simultaneously might not be the most typical use-case.
For what it's worth I upvoted all your comments and wasn't trying to dispute you, I was just genuinely fascinated and dumbfounded by this new information I'd never heard before. I agree with the other guy who asked something like "how is information this amazing not more widely known?".
I think /r/JDHannan's line had seven notches, of which one was taller than the rest. That would be 180 dB.
Also, dB by itself is meaningless. You're referring to some scale where dB is based on acoustic pressure relative to 20 micropascals (e.g. dB SPL, dB(A)), but many amplifiers describe electric potential levels or power levels as dB with some arbitrary origin (e.g. dBV, dBu, dBW, dBm).
My TV has pretty normal volume intervals, except when you go all the way down. Volume 2 is too loud in the middle of the night when the baby is falling asleep, but 1 might as well be mute. There's such a big jump between the two; I don't understand it. Lately, we just keep the subtitles on.
nope the first 30 notches are .5 db and then the 31st is 200db
narfidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our AMP at home has been in the negatives since we got it when I was 3. It was how I first learned about negatives and positives long before school. It's been 17 years and the tv is routinely at -46db. And if we all watch a movie together we can bump it up to -16 db. 0 is unbearable
Many (superior) processors and amps will show the volume has how much they're attenuating the signal before pushing it to the amp. Max volume is letting it go through at full power, thus -0db. To get 10db quieter, you'd pull the power back, so -10db.
narfidy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. TIL
emilydm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this the hard way when I tried to play the beginning of Side B of Pink Floyd's The Final Cut through my aunt's powerful audiophile amplifier, marked thus. I figured the volume knob was just backwards, and 2 or 3 was reasonable.
...
"Hey!Getyourfilthyhandsoffmydesert!"
("What'd he say?")
(JET FLIES INTO LIVING ROOM, ENTIRE HOUSE REDUCED TO RUBBLE)
rawbface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah fucking right. Not a single digital tv I have owned has had linear volume control.
This is something I've wondered about for a while.
My television volume display is a bar at the bottom of the screen, with a vertical bar at the beginning and end: |------------------|. The volume level is set with another vertical bar: |--|---------------|. In all the time I've had the television, never once has the volume been raised higher than were I've shown it here, not even to the quarter point of the potential volume of the television.
Why is there so much extra "loudness" available? If I turn it up to a quarter of the potential volume, the television is loud enough that I can hear it when I'm outside the house, with all the doors and windows closed, with a lawnmower running. I can't imagine anyone who is so deaf that they'd need to have it heard a few blocks away.
My parents and I have TVs from the same manufacturer purchased less than a year apart. On my TV that first volume would blow out the speakers and your eardrums. On my parentsโ TV the top one is where it becomes audible at 5 ft.
My Inlaws, I think they're all deaf or want the neighbors to hear what they're watching. I keep my tv at about 12 at max out of 50. It's at 10 right now. They keep theirs around 40-45 out of 50.
Notches are indentations. Many knobs had indentations that you could feel as the knob settled into one of many settings. Lines on the screen are not indentations.
hitemlow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still wish TVs would just tell you the volume in dB and let you adjust it in 0.01 increments.
Sometimes 12 is too quiet, but 13 is too loud...
And don't get me started on the TVs that only have odd numbers.
My volume bar needs more notches. I can only set it to even numbers but 12 is often too quiet and 14 is too loud, and there is no way in hell I can bring myself to set it to 13. (My therapist says this is nothing to be terribly concerned about.)
Yeah but you're not actually turning anything. You used to actually TURN the volume up or down, or turn the channel by turning the dial.
rush22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't literally turn it though
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rotary encoders actually have physical notches which they click into. You are taking the abstraction of that as a synonym for any quantized incrementation.
JDHannan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The question was not "which terms are not abstracted into a synonym for quantized incrementation?"
It was "lost their core relevance"
I'm claiming its still relevant because the notches are just different now
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naw dude, the little bars on TV are not "notches". A rotary encoder has literal notches cut into the surface, which is where the contact will engage and the circuit will close. Your idea of "a notch" as a unit is itself an abstraction of the idea of something with notches cut into it. I'm just pointing out that you're missing the origin, because you associate it as an abstract unit rather than a literal notch cut into something.
Also "turn the channels". It was literally a knob you turned to one of the 3 channels you had...at least until the knob broke and you had to use a pair of tweezers or pliers.
My grandfather used to have a screwdriver soldered into his (80s) computer for that purpose. The man was an engineer and could have easily replaced the original potentiometer with a new one with a sturdier knob, but I guess the screwdriver was easier. It really was odd, because I know he opened the computer up anyway when he soldered his turbo mode switch in, but the screwdriver stayed.
slnz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:23:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd call the times simpler when you don't have to fetch the toolbox just to turn on the news to be honest
Yeah, me either. "Turn it up" or down as in volume for sure, but not channels.
stilesja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't have 3 channels. You had 12 on the VHF Dial (2-13) and something like 69 channels on the UHF dial. You would turn the VHF dial to to UHF and then turn the the UHF channel to the one you wanted to watch. I know this because when I was a kid I had to go change the channel for my parents so they didn't have to get up.
Of course there were more channels on the dial. But most Americans only received 3. The shitty UHF channels weren't even worth looking at in my broadcast area.
Cardo94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this, I still say 'Turn over to something else'
or referring to the remote as a "clicker:...the first remotes used sound to change the channel. the sound made by the remote "clicking" when pushed.
this was in the early 60s and was replaced by the IR remote in the 80s. only 20 years but the term is cemented in our collective memories.
oddly enough the remote control was an attempt to come up with something to help the public fight the proliferation of commercials on TV. which in the 60s/50s was 13 to 19 %......in 2017 it is now at 31%
Nodak70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You had three channels!? you must have been rich!!
I think the phrase "turn on / off" a light also comes from these type of switches, right? At least that what they looked like here in my country. Don't know about the States.
Also some people call tv remotes clickers. Since one of the first remote literally made a clicking sound. When you click the button a spring will hit a rod inside the remote. The rod then vibrates and the TV will listen to its frequency to know which button was pressed. https://youtu.be/LOlBAH3Auis
I had no idea there were wired remotes till I watched The Wall. I had heard about clicking remotes though.
ottyk1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how widespread this is, but around here (Northern England) some people still refer to channels as "sides". I.e. "check the other side" means "see what's on the other channels". I guess this is a throwback to when the UK only had two channels?
Pretty much a year "turn" like "turn your phone off" as well. Of course cell phones never had cranks to turn, but it's neat we just adopted that from either knob TV's or cranks (like old cars).
Seanrps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my amplifier still has a knob that i can turn! i use the remote most of the time but i still can change it with a knob.
Considering how little I really understand this process, the oversimplification is very appreciated.
Virus64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My current TV doesn't even have buttons, that I'm aware of. Everything has to be done by remote.
Wyn6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a phrase that came along with radio and transferred to TV. The knob only gave you the "turn" part of the phrase as the knob itself neither went up or down. The up/down comes from the increase/decrease of the volume.
I'm pretty sure some commercial breaks will still say something like "don't touch that dial," too, but that's probably intentionally anachronistic to be goofy.
Is up/down any more relevant to a knob than it is to a remote? Knobs go round. I'm confused by air conditioners. Does turning it up make it colder or hotter?
Fen_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't really a valid one since "up/down a notch" exists outside of that context anyways. Applying it to TVs would have always been fine even if that tech wasn't used on TVs physically. It's the way people understand interacting with those sorts of systems in general and doesn't have to rely on a knob or dial.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I head a couple of teenagers on the local high school radio station yesterday talking about videotaping the Halsey concert they just went to with their cellphones.
HugoM ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They probably got it from their parents and they don't even know why.
It's not actually that far off. People believed that the bodily fluids influenced your mood. In that sense, "humour" was synonymous with "demeanor." It's even used that way today in some cases. Therefore, humorous could very well mean that you were funny, if applied in a certain context.
They also believed lunar activity was the reason people were lunatics. And that a woman's uterus was the source of hysteria. Ancient medicine was weird.
They were mostly just guessing and having fun, and at the end of the day, isn't that what medicine's about? People these days are too hung up on facts. I say we bring back leeches.
And the historic treatment for female hysteria was manual stimulation until the woman experienced "hysterical paroxysm" (i.e. orgasm). The vibrator was invented in the 19th century to help automate this treatment because doctors of the era found administering it to be so tedious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:30:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a causal link between mania and the full moon. Emergency centers, hospitals and call centers have to have extra staff on hand.
Nope.
There is a more serious problem for fervent believers in the lunar lunacy effect: no evidence that it exists. Florida International University psychologist James Rotton, Colorado State University astronomer Roger Culver and University of Saskatchewan psychologist Ivan W. Kelly have searched far and wide for any consistent behavioral effects of the full moon. In all cases, they have come up empty-handed. By combining the results of multiple studies and treating them as though they were one huge studyโa statistical procedure called meta-analysisโthey have found that full moons are entirely unrelated to a host of events, including crimes, suicides, psychiatric problems and crisis center calls. In their 1985 review of 37 studies entitled โMuch Ado about the Full Moon,โ which appeared in one of psychologyโs premier journals, Psychological Bulletin, Rotton and Kelly humorously bid adieu to the full-moon effect and concluded that further research on it was unnecessary.
Personally I'm not so quick to dismiss the idea that a full moon affects behavior. The placebo effect is a very real thing. It might not increase the number of X and Y events happening, but that doesn't mean it has no effect whatsoever
The moon's gravity also effects the tide which effects the wind.
Combine that with its varying brightness on certain nights, and if you sleep outside it can significantly affect your mood. I assume.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are you measuring "effect"?
It's also not being quick to dismiss something if, after a meta-analysis, it is shown not to have any effect. There is no research which supports the idea that the full moon has any effect on human behaviour.
Or calm if you are phlegmatic or sanguine if you are upbeat.
pjjmd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sanguine is still used today, although generally with a more negative connotation. Someone who is sanguine is incorrectly optimistic. 'I'm not overly sanguine about that bargain being struck' or 'He was sanguine at the opportunities for advancement during the layoffs.'
I always thought of "sanguine" as a synonym for bloody, though it's a quite rare word so I was never exact on its meaning. I just know "sang" is blood in French.
pjjmd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does mean blood, but it's modern use is associated with the 4 humours school of medicine. So Black Bile, Phlegm, Blood, and Yellow Bile, which were thought to control peoples tempermants. Keeping these 4 humors in balance was thought to be optimal. Someone with 'too much blood' was considered 'Sanguine' and had the associated traits.
It's kinda archaic now, and you definitely aren't the only person who mistakes it for meaning 'bloody' in a more literal sense. I've seen some bad fiction writers describe a 'sanguine' crime scene, or a vampire's 'sanguinary lust'.
Yeah. Sometimes it just seems to mean "relating to blood".
pjjmd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not going to say folks are wrong to use it that way, but it does cause some confusion. It's an odd word choice if you are just looking to say something is covered in blood. It's archaic and it has a bunch of unrelated connotations. I know some folks do it, but it always smacks as thesaurus abuse, not careful word choice.
Kolaru ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm assuming thatโs the connection to having dry humour
Alis451 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:31:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good Humor actually, "You are Full of Good Humor Today" You look like you are doing well/felling happy
Dry Humor is afterwards describing your Funny joke like a Dry Wine, it is good, but makes your mouth pucker a little bit
Hacking this thread to tell you in Dutch we have the word humor which means the same, and humeur which means mood.
araxhiel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who speaks Spanish natively, I couldn't help myself to read (and pronounce in my mind) humor as in Spanish and humeur as if it were a French word, so, I'm genuinely curious:
How both words sound in Dutch?
(And considering that a while ago a swedish guy told me how to pronounce a Dutch name (Arjen), I'm must say that in pretty clueless)
The eu has the same sound as in french. Like รถ in German. So I guess, try to imagine a German pronouncing those words? Maybe like Spanish and French but the h is an actual sound? Sorry don't know how else to explain it. I don't know IPA :)
araxhiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I got what you mean, I mean, I can imagine (more or less) the German pronunciation of those words.
Also terminal itself. It used to refer to a dumb end user interface (the "terminal" part, as in terminus) of a shared mainframe. A terminal emulator just emulates that on the same machine you're going to execute the command at.
Also, X.org still uses the server-client paradigm because it was designed with terminals and mainframes in mind. That's why in *nix programs still need an X client (nowadays integrated on the DE like Gnome and Mutter, but there are also standalone clients like i3) to provide a GUI, and the OS needs to run an X server on boot.
i3 is not an X client, but a window manager. Every window's content is its own X client. This is why you don't have to get yourself a whole desktop via the network, but can run a single program remotely, managing it in your local machine's window manager
I still really like X's client/server approach. It's always fun to set DISPLAY to my SGI O2 and launch Firefox so as to have it appear on the IRIX desktop. Much better than the bundled Mozilla/Netscape, or the (buggy) port of Firefox 3.
Just to be pedantic, the program the user wants to run is an X client, which might be run locally or on a remote host. And the computer displaying the program to the user is running the X server.
It's kind of backwards compared to how we usually think of client-server communications where the client program is running where the end user is and the server is remote.
So the X server that you're running on your local computer might be displaying a mix of programs running locally and on any number of different hosts.
That's used all the time in the South of the US. At least where I live. In fact "drawing water" is pretty much understood even if it's a bit more uncommon for me to hear someone say they've drawn water for tea or soup or their cattle.
razzdraz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I use that when referring to my toddler's bath. The first time I said this to my partner she was confused...
ie. "Can you draw him a bath while I get dinner ready?"
I think I remember being old enough to think to myself at some point โwhy is she saying that? We arenโt drawing anything! you canโt even draw in the tub, itโll get wetโ
I say that but for some reason only when I draw a bath for someone else, which I almost never do but my mom did for me all the time as a kid when I was sick and she always said it that way. But she is from the south so maybe it is just a southern thing as another commenter said and I picked it up from her.
Aspalar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From southeast US... What else do you say when you want someone to draw you a bath?
I mostly still here it fairly frequently about beers. Though, I think it's more recent with the massive resurgence of local craft breweries in the US over the past 5-10 years.
Lessa22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say that. Didnโt occur to me until this moment that it was probably out of common usage.
I hadnโt thought of that. I say โdraw a bowl of waterโ but really Iโm filling the sink - from the tap. The sink in the bathroom is still called a hand basin.
Maybe I am 95 years old. Shit.
CGB_Zach ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 17:20:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A hand basin? Wtf, I don't think I've ever heard a sink referred to as this. Just curious, where do you live?
Northern England (at least thatโs where I grew up). My mum was very hot on us not calling it a sink, so I guess it was the polite, middle class name for it.
Iโm currently drumming it into my children, so it lives for another generation.
Bless her. But they were doomed well before that. My dad worked in a garment mill, he did the sums. He said that towards the end, the only way they could compete with factories from the Far East would be not to pay the workers, or the utilities.
levigu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in home building for 14 years. Basin is the technical term for the bowl of a sink. Like you can have a cabinet sink or a pedestal sink. They will both have basins but one will be on a pedestal and one will be recessed into a cabinet. Or in a master bath, it's more common to set the basin in a countertop. But the generic term that regular people use is just sink. It covers all these options.
CGB_Zach ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:33:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh ok, I've heard wash basin before and just thought of those as the deep sinks that we used when I worked in a deli. Didn't know it was more commonly used than that and never would've referred to my bathroom sink as a hand basin. Now I've thought about the word basin so much it doesn't sound real. Thanks for the info though.
If it makes you feel any better, I heard all those terms growing millennially in rural Alabama. Though, we did have well water, so that might be part of it.
Really? I say drawing a bowl of water of drawing a bath. I'm 41 and in the UK - definitely not 95 yet ;-) My mother would correct me if I said 'run a bath' when I was a kid (a bit like when I'd ask 'can I have' something and she'd say 'Yes, you MAY' have whatever it was.
So the "save icon" is simply some "save savior" sign?
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:44:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OP is using a super narrow definition of icon here and I'm inclined to say he's wrong. A quick look at my Greek-English lexicon shows that the Greek word for image (eikone) is used in contexts of describing, referring top scribes/copyists, to referring to portrait makers and images in general.
Exactly. And icon just means an image that refers to something. An icon of Jesus refers to Jesus. And icon of the save image refers to saving. An icon of Facebook refers to the Facebook app, etc.
If you are trying to see what the Greek "Eikona" means, its the equivelent of "image" in english, and in a more strict term means specifically religious paintings.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:24:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point moreso is that the term is quite broad in ancient usage.
Granted, it is contentious as to whether or not compound words can be strictly understood by strictly referring back to their individual components, but image shows up in interesting ways. It seems fair to suggest that it had connotations outside of images.
Added: even in the religious usage elements of this broader usage remains. People who create icons do not "draw" or "paint" icons, the proper terminology is they "write" icons.
I do not understand what you are trying to day with the "added". In Greek, the modern at least, the words for "to paint" and "to write" are completely different.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A) I did not claim they were, I said that the verb used is to write when it comes to icons, not that to write and to paint are the same
B) In some quick research (including flipping through what little texts I have on Eastern Orthodoxy), it seems that the concept of writing icons is likely an peculiar aspect to the Orthodox as it exists in North America. I have heard from a variety of sources, from within the Orthodox tradition (Greek Orthodox priest) from second-hand (a classmate of mine is good friends with a Greek Orthodox iconographer), that icons are written not drawn. A quick look reveals that Orthodox theologians outside of North America favour the language of painting icons (it is at least more intuitive) while North Americans are more likely to talk of writing icons.
There seems to be some debate on whether this use of the verb is helpful. Some say it's just a bad translation of the Greek, I saw one source that suggested that this is actually a Russian Orthodox influence in North American religious expression, but also saw that this is true to the Koine usage of the term -- namely that there would be a distinction because painting as something non-serious while serious artistic works were written (regardless of whether or not they were text). An iconographer's profession is literally image-writing, but whether or not breaking down compound words like that is helpful is (of course) debatable.
But, the lexicon I'm referring to notes several pre-Christian usages of the use of "grapho" as meaning "caused to be painted" (citing as noteworthy examples Leonidas Tarentinus' and Herodotus) in Middle Greek. My less-than-academic Googling suggests that this usage might have continued into Koine Greek.
I think the confusion stems from miunderstanding the verb "Grapho" witch means "to write" and the similar compound word (probably from the same root) for the guy that makes holy paintings/icons = "Hagiographos" . However that second compound also exists on the Greek word for the normal painter = "Zohgraphos" and ofcourse the verb for "to paint" = "Zohgraphizo" . The ending "-graphos" is used with almost anything that has to do with painting/sketching something, another example, "Hartographos" meaning "Mapmaker".
From that you also get the english word "Graphics".
I've heard "draw a bath" used before, but I've never heard "draw a bowl of water" before. Mind you, I use "pour", which isn't really accurate to getting it from the sink either.
If you use the right Windows theme an icon can still be a small representation of Jesus or a saint.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:36:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre all talking about the floppy disk icon, but an icon itself used to be small representation of Jesus or a saint.
The usage is MUCH older. While icons in the Christian world have typically meant this, but here's some other words from the ancient Greek world that use the same root (eikone, or image):
eikonizo -- copy a document; verify the identity; mould into form
eikonikos -- representing a figure, copied from it; counterfeit/pretended; belonging to or employing images
eikonismos -- delineation; description
eikonistes -- scribe/copyist
All of these usages are ones that predate the New Testament, let alone the Christian practice of icongraphy (which Tradition dates backs to Luke, IIRC).
I get your meaning - draught beer, but I think it is older than that: drawing a bow, drawing a carriage, drawing water from a well. A pump draws water up a pipe.
I literally have never head anyone say that. Draw a bath I have heard but even that is old. Technically you're still "drawing" by the way by pulling it from the pipe. The process is automatic but it still happening.
I have never left Appalachia. Just moved from northern to southern and I actually know we have a lot of odd words. Like referring to the trunk of the car as the boot and calling bathroom sinks basins. It's not even universal here, just more common than apparently it is in the rest of the US.
I've never heard of anyone drawing a bowl of water. In fact, that's a silly example I'm thinking, what do you need a bowl of water for? To freshen the towel on someone's forehead when they have a fever?
Sorry, I wasnโt clear. To draw a bowl of water is to fill the bathroom sink with water. The action, and indeed the object has changed, but the intent hasnโt.
Right? I immediately thought this when reading along - tomorrows buzzfeed headline, then poorly written versions by all the other half a sentence a page list websites like click hole
Every once in a while I see architects and engineers in movies act like they're drawing on a blueprint. That's not how it works! Clearly, we've forgotten that a blueprint is a copy.
That's exactly how it works. You work on a blueprint and when you figure out where the lines go and what crosses where, then you change the original drawing.
Even with modern CAD software, scribbling on a big printout together is amazing to get ideas going.
Himekat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I did theater lighting design in college, we had a blueprint machine that took your pencil-and-tracing-paper plan and made it into a blueprint. I remember being shocked at how it was done.
I donโt know how 18-year-old me used to think blueprints were made, but that sure wasnโt it.
I remember a friend's kid pointing at a "phone" symbol at the airport and asking what it means. When he told him it's a symbol for telephone, the little girl was quite confused, because she had never seen a telephone that looked like that.
[deleted] ยท 497 points ยท Posted at 16:17:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first time my oldest daughter ever saw a telephone toy, she was 2 1/2 and picked up, put it to her ear and said "Hello, Mommy?" And then pointed at my phone to make me answer. I still don't know how she immediately knew what it's purpose was, but it made sense to her.
SonicN ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 16:28:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"regular phones"
Killzark ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:26:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm currently holding and typing this on what we now refer to as a regular phone.
Aellus ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:00:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, kids have old school phones on their toys but they don't know what they are. I have a 1 and a 3 year old. They've never picked up the toy phone handsets on some of their toys and used it like a pretend phone. Usually it's just something to use as a drum stick. But anything rectangular/glassy (baby monitor, remotes, etc) they will hold to their ear and pretend to talk to people.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda like people who still call a manual transmission a "standard transmission" even though fewer and fewer cars in the US offer them as an option, much less as standard equipment.
My best friend's toddler has a toy phone. He drags it around by the hand-piece. He plays "phone" with a flat piece of duplo.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:41:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need a very old phone for it to actually look like a telephone symbol. Most landline phones have been cordless for ages, and don't normally have the characteristic bend. The kid might have seen a toy phone but not realized what it's supposed to be.
Roupert2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my kid is 4 and has known since age 2 that regular phones exist and how you hold them up to your ear. Sure, they see cell phones a million times more, but they don't grow up not knowing what an old school phone is. That being said, I could see my 4 year old potentially not recognizing a symbol.
Yeah who has never seen a landline phone? Payphone, every single office I've ever been in, etc all have phones. Even kids toys like you said have regular old phones.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Assuming a kid would understand what an old phone is, even though they've never seen one, because they saw an icon of one on some toy is a bit like expecting you to be able to read Greek text of an object that you picked up once, even though you've never seen Greek before.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:33:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not going to argue with you that these toys aren't common, but even if they're available to half of kids, then the other half of kids might not see them (or not see them often enough to be really familiar with them). Searching amazon for "kids kitchen set", lots of these do include phones, but toy cell phones seem just as common as landline phones in them. I have two daughters (the oldest is six), and I don't remember owning a toy landline phone.
Lots of kids don't see cows in real life, but see them in books or as toys. Why is it unreasonable to assume the same for phones?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:19:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because kids see cows in books about cows where they teach kids that "cows say moo" and that farmers own cows, etc. There are comparatively few picture books about landline phones.
this might be the worst analogy i've read all day. Good job, you're an idiot
MarlinMr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give a child an old phone toy. What is he going to do? He has no idea what it is. Give him a smart phone toy. What is he going to do? He has no idea what it is. Except, he will se his mommy and daddy using a similar device to talk to and look at videos. He will emulate that.
rawbface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am sitting at my desk at work looking at one right now. My building has hundreds of them.
My daughter sees these all the time at her grandparents' houses (both sets) and great grandmother's house. Living in rural areas requires the use of landline phones still. Desk phones are still extremely common at offices. I don't think they ever declined much.
1840_NO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im 28 and even though I saw them occasionally growing up, they weren't common enough for me to associate them with the typical look of a phone. By the new millennium, cell phones were affordable and even before them, the shape of home phones had evolved into a more streamlined design.
I'm in my late 20s and seriously had to have someone show me how to fax from our multifunctional device at work when I started my job at 23. I obviously knew what a fax was, but had never needed to or known how to send one.
That's one of the design touches on the Nextbit Robin that I thought was clever - instead of an old-school phone handset, the dialer icon is a picture of the Robin itself.
Something somewhat similar. One of my friend's little brothers asked if the 911 emergency number was named after 9/11.
Horzzo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:04:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lost my phone and had to make a call last year. I could NOT find a payphone for the life of me. There are the spots for them at gas stations but none of them have pay phones.
I know quite a lot of people who only have cordless phones, or keep the wired phone in their bedroom or home office. My office phone doesnโt look like a traditional phone either.
Little kids are creative though. Here's a list of what my son has used as a phone: my actual smartphone, the remote for the TV, a toy remote, my lipstick, a sock, and the ripped half of a board book. A phone is whatever he can grab when he wants to play pretend.
Lousy24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that now when kids pretend they are talking on a phone that they just hold their hand flat up to their face, imitating what a smart phone looks like, instead of holding their pinky and thumb out, like the "hang loose" hand symbol.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My niece couldnโt understand why my ancient Nokia didnโt have a touchscreen or colour.
Usually, kids learn about phones and phone booths from 80s-90s movies. Is your friend not showing his kid the movies he watched as a kid? That's kind of sad.
nukjam ยท 161 points ยท Posted at 18:05:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a family friend from Germany visiting. While out on an errand and having forgotten his phone, he said the following to me in English:
Him: "I need a handy."
Me: "[Uhhhh] What was that?"
Him: "My cell phone. We call them 'handys in German."
His response when I informed him what a 'handy' meant in American English was very German:
"Ah yes, of course."
[deleted] ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 18:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:14:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also you could have been asking for rain boots. Rubbers.
collin-h ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:30:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid we always referred to sandals (specifically the ones that would have that one bit that would go between your big and middle toes) as "thongs". I don't really hear that much anymore.
Had an Australian girl in my high school english class. We were talking about movies and I said my favorite movie was a "spoof" of a fameous film. She lost her shit laughing.
Turns out "spoof" is slang for cum
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:58:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do call it Natel, and I'll continue to do so until cell phones aren't a thing anymore.
rmeas002 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mommy can I get a handy for my birthday
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your grandfather has one but grandmom says sheโs gonna give him one for his birthday so you can have his. Itโs and older model but if you really want it you can have an old handy from grandpa.
rmeas002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grandpa's handy is too slow and too big for my pockets
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Japanese it's a "Portable". In Chinese it's a "Hand machine." I feel like there's more amusement to be mined here.
Right, but to OP's actual question, this doesn't meet the criteria. The term has not lost its core relevance. The thing that it referred to in the first place is still the thing that it refers to today, even if people aren't concerned with the technical details. And it still distinguishes the technology; nobody refers to non-cellular devices (satellite phones, wifi only phones, etc) as cell phones.
When I visited Holland in 2002, they referred to them as mobiles, of course, and we called them cell phones. My Dutch relatives got a little confused and started calling them self-phones. We still refer to them as self-phones in my family now.
Cellular refers to the collection of towers that receive the signal. You are always "connected" to one "Cell Tower." As you travel, your connection is switched to the closest tower behind the scenes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have cellular shades on my windows. It's strange to describe them to someone. The shades have 'cells' on them.
Cellular refers to how the phone acts as cell in reference to the tower. Towers cover areas called cells. Cell phones get their signal from what ever nearest cell tower provides it.
I realize that at this point, I just call my cellphone my phone, since it's the only phone I use when I'm not using the landline on my desk at work (which I call my work phone/landline).
I feel like landline phone and "basic"/"feature" phone (i.e. non-smartphone cellphone) are going to join acoustic guitar, black-and-white movie, analog watch, and brick-and-mortar store as new retronyms.
Well sure, but they're still making those calls using "cellular" radio signal.
The term comes from the charts of a broadcast coverage map, which looks like biological cells. The term "cell phone" isn't exactly right though, it's the network that is being described as cellular and not the phone.
The term cell predates the discovery of the biological cell, coming from the Latin 'cella' meaning small room. Hence cellular radios, prison cells and biological cells are all named after that root word.
The territories covered by a cell tower, when seen on a map, resemble cells (plant or animal). That's why they're called cellular. I believe this is still very relevant.
I said this to someone else already, but I'll say it again...
It's still a phone first. Would you carry it around (without a phone) if it had no phone in it? I wouldn't. I know this because I replaced my nexus 5 when calling people required being on speaker or using headphones.
My 16 year old (much younger) brother was describing an iPod touch to my 3 year old and called it "basically a phone that doesn't do calls"
It made me feel very old that, from his perspective, he could use "phone" to describe something that didn't do the thing that a phone is supposed to do.
Yeah so this one is all over the place.
They use cell-switched network radios to make calls with 10 digit circuit addresses soooo... still a cell phone.
A computer being anything that does math for you, every cell-phone ever qualified. A programmable digital computer being something that can be given arbitrary instructions to carry out in binary math well... probably every cell phone ever qualifies as that too?
Most of them now would also be considered a "personal computer" because they have an x86 or ARM based processor and run a Unix-based OS. Funny because originally Unix was developed for running phone switching equipment.
The more you think about it, we just make words up and whatever sticks, sticks.
Cell phone. Nope, theyโre now just computers that happen to be able to make and receive phone calls.
That doesn't mean they're not cellular. They most certainly are. The architecture of the networks have remained cellular from the earliest days of analog cell phones to today's 4G networks. Only the modulation and data formats have changed.
Unless I'm mistaken, the "cell" in cell phone means a phone that uses a cellular wireless network to communicate rather than a wired landline, and that is still true in today's smartphones as it was when they first came out.
"Cell" is an older technology anyway, the proper term is Mobile Phone, or Mobile Device. If it can make phone calls, it can be called a phone. I wouldn't call Skype or Hangouts a "phone call" even though it uses the phone symbol... its an IP call...or teleconference.
But yeah, Cell should be outdated anyway even if the phone part isn't.
I think the term 'dotting your 'i's and crossing your 't's' comes from cursive writing, where you don't actually dot your i's and cross your t's until you're done writing the word, thus dotting i's and crossing t's is putting the finishing touches on something.
jrhooo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also, those dots and crosses are "tit's and tittles".
Iโve looked into this before, and thereโs no evidence for it. Especially as quarts arenโt normally sold in bars. OPโs pโs and qโs is dubious too.
Again, thereโs no proper evidence, but Iโve always liked the theory that it is an abbreviation for โmind your please and thankyousโ - ie be polite.
jfb1337 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
_gnasty_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always thought that "mind your p's and q's" was from rowdy taverns referring to pints and quarts. Meaning don't spill your drinks. Live and learn!
I thought mind your Pโs and Qโs refereed to Pints and Quarts and originated from bars in the sense to tell someone they are drunk or are drinking too much.
evhan55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When saying a web address, people still say "WWW" even though it's completely unnecessary. Occassionally I find a website that doesnt have a DNS entry for www though so it's only necessary if you dont know what you're doing.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewerโs head. Thereโs also Rickโs nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that theyโre not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldnโt appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rickโs existential catchphrase โWubba Lubba Dub Dub,โ which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenevโs Russian epic Fathers and Sons. Iโm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmonโs genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. ๐
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. Itโs for the ladiesโ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that theyโre within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid ๐
Or three if you just say triple dubs like the cool kids do.
deFleury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've only ever heard " triple-dub", don't people feel stupid saying all three "dubs " out loud? By the time you've enunciated the second one, surely your audience knows what's coming next and is like "hurry up, get to the point"?
This comment legitimately made me feel embarrassed about my accent. Iโm a Texan and I was just sitting here trying to figure out where they were getting 9 syllables from. Dammit.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:50:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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whtml ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None that I've come across. Everyone I know says "dub dub dub".
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:17:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard anyone say that
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading this in The Salmon of Doubt by Douglas Adams, but I don't think it's true. English is not syllable timed, it's stress timed. This means we tend to compress unstressed syllables, so that each stressed syllable appears on a similar beat.
The phrase world wide web actually looks longer, this is probably related to the standards I used to measure the b at the end of the phrase, which counts the end of the word as the end of the puff of air from that sound being audible. WWW was measured to the last vocal chord flap.
Regardless, the times for me were very similar. Around 1 second long, with .93 being the shortest measurement and 1.09 being the longest.
Now if you mean something other than time, I can't help you there :).
Why would you say world wide web? You're typing www. If people said that you'd get millions of people actually typing it, just like how there's people who can never seem to find the 'any' key
When I was a kid and dial-up was still new, I started just saying "dub dub dub".
If I'm feeling lazy, I still say that. So far, nobody has been confused; or at least, they never admitted to it.
Himekat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a software developer, everyone I know at work says โdub-dubโ. Like, โsomething wrong with the dub-dub servers?โ if the servers hosting the website are acting up.
epwnym ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:43:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically no. Practically yes.
We shouldnโt conflate the Internet and the web.
In the early days those subdomain prefixes help identify to users and clients which type of resource it was. People were already connecting to non-www URIs.
Creshal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:54:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a mere convention, but people are so trained to put www. in front of fucking everything that you have to add it to your DNS because someone will put it in front of a domain even (and especially) if you never told them to. And more often than not that mouth-breathing imbecile will be in charge of seven-figure budgets and threaten to cancel their company's contract because "you broke the internet".
don't know if you have control over this but that is bad practice for a webserver. it can (and should) be configured to handle with/without www & http/s redirections.
Slepnair ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:48:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, they're internal sites and don't care. Lol I spoke with the head of or infrastructure team about it a while ago.
I remember back in the 90s when I first saw someone reading a URL on TV. It was like they were reading a phonetic transcription of a foreign language: aitch tee tee pee colon slash slash double-u double-u double-u dot ...
ccooffee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should have used "web." instead. Would have made things a lot easier.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:14:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Web" alone doesn't imply that it's running on the Internet, could be a web on a LAN. "www" implies that it's THE web that's running on THE Internet.
I never say www, though I hear them do it on ads because theyโre appealing to many demographics. Iโve also stopped adding the โ.comโ when verbally giving my email address. Both should be a given.
www. is necessary if you're setting cookies on the domain. A www'less site will share it's cookies among all subdomains, which can result in a large amount of data being included with every request if you have a lot of subdomains. It's an edge case, but a real possibility.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:13:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Plorntus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:56:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do browsers automatically add it? That'd be pretty bad if they did.
Most of the time its the servers enforcing www redirecting the user to a single sub-domain.
Braxo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:19:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Browsers don't add it, the web proxy where the site is adds it or removes if they want.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Braxo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't work for Google and I write code to implement https and www for sites. Saying that's not needed?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Braxo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if the site is in chrome's cache and the site has the Strict-Transport-Security header set up in their web proxy.
A site may also set all that up and submit that to Google for review and if Google accepts it will preload the browser's cache to redirect to those endpoints.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Braxo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The http:// - now Chrome may add that automatically if it determines that the string you put in the browser's url bar looks like a web address.
But the https:// and www - would be site specific and saved in the browser's cache for your next visits.
gekkobob ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:56:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always hoped saying "triple u" would catch on, instead of three double u's. Like saying "triple u dot altavista dot com". But alas.
skewrr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:24:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is how the letter W came to be named, and "Triple U" wouldn't really be inaccurate.
In medieval Latin, U and V were interchangeable and writing style was distinct to different regions. Depends on who is doing the writing and how they learned to write.
U or V was to represent a "you" or "uh" sound like in Unicycle or Just
UU or VV was written to represent a "wuh" or "wih" sound like in Window or What
And the letter combination was so common that it kind of became its own letter over time, called a "Double U".
I've run into many (also major) websites that don't have a redirect from the base domain (domain.com) to their www url (www.domain.com). Then you get a blanc page or some error. Years ago I thought we should get rid of that stupid www, especially for all you english people, but now I see that it has its purpose, especially for the big websites that need spread traffic over different servers.
Makes you wonder why www was ever a part of the URL to begin with. Like oh wait, I didn't want the world wide web, I wanted the city-wide web. Silly me.
Could be one of the many other protocols on the internet. The world wide web is just one of the services.
Examples:
mail.example.com - Mail
gopher.example.com - Gopher (an early alternative to the world wide web, also hypertext based) www.example.com - World Wide Web
telnet.example.com - Remote access to computing resources
ftp.example.com - File transfer protocol
blueg3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Host, not protocol. The protocol part of the URL (e.g., http) designates the protocol. (If you're not using a URL, it's the client program and its configuration that designates what protocol you want).
The part before your domain (e.g., www) is the host. By convention, the primary server for a particular high-level service is given the name of that service. So your main Web server is www, your mail server is mail, your gopher server is gopher, etc. This is separate from protocol: mail can run Webmail (http/s), POP, IMAP, and SMTP all at once. You also can host non-primary services on other machines. Say, toaster.domain.com can host the Web site of your toaster. Still HTTP, still Web, but not the primary Website of domain.com.
These days, since most people incorrectly think of the Internet as nothing but the Web, black-box HTTP services, and second-class clients, usually you CNAME your domain to www for better end user usability. Even though it's kind of wrong.
Excellent clarifications. And certainly any host name can be used with any protocol. There were just conventions that people had where you would have a different host name for each common service.
blueg3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. For the primary service of that type. For that domain. Certainly you can -- and even now, do -- have dozens of hosts in a domain that are all serving different Web resources.
I remember when the internet was first becoming used in the typical home, we typed out the "http" even. Then it was a miracle when we could just put "www".
I still type "http://". Well, not exactly, I type "https://" for the occasional website that still serves plain HTTP instead of just redirecting you to the SSL site
Strictly speaking that isn't true. www is a subdomain, because www became a defacto standard we assume that www is desired by default, we use it by default for most things, however while we are redirected to www by default we don't have to be. For example, you may have come across a school or company that had it's own email server and provided you an address which you accessed by going to email.(whatever).com. You might also encounter blog.(whatever).com
Most of the time you can leave it off, but that doesn't mean completely unnecessary.
Drew707 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a carry over from the 90s. Websites all started with www. Ftp servers with ftp. Archie servers with archie. nntp servers with nntp or news. gopher servers with gopher.
A simpler time online. No spam. Just a bunch of geeks and nerds staring at a green screen exchanging ideas and ascii porn. I miss the days when Usenet hosted an amazing array of discussions, and for the most part people were civil to each other.
buckus69 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:05:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still completely necessary from an infrastructure standpoint. But browsers have abstracted that detail away, as if you put in something like reddit.com, it automatically tries www.reddit.com first.
kalmakka ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:05:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not correct.
When you enter reddit.com your browser will do a DNS lookup request to find the IP address of reddit.com, then connect to that IP address and send a request. The response from that server tells the browser "This page has moved to www.reddit.com". The browser then does another DNS lookup to find the IP address of www.reddit.com and then connects to that IP address. Two things to note: the browser does not try www.reddit.comfirst, and the browser only tries www.reddit.com because reddit.com told it so.
At least back in the days, it was common for browsers to try to resolve the IP address of www.[something].[other] if just [something].[other] did not resolve, and automatically redirect the user www.[something].[other] if it found something there.
slnz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:29:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention the zone apex (no www) is annoyingly different from operating within the regular 3 level domains from a DNS infrastructure standpoint (the reason you can't just CNAME and have to redirect).
This is why we hate dealing with shitty users. You're not listening. It's not automatic. It has to be set up right. If the site on the other end isn't set up right, you may have to add/remove the www.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except he is wrong and explicitly stated that the browser is doing it. It's not, the DNS server is responsible. If he had written "but DNS servers have abstracted..." it'd be a different story.
Not sure why you thought a technically correct explanation of the process needed a sugar coating using a condescending explanation like "magic internet box" but it's not needed.
Yes, they are. It's the DNS system doing it by design, not the browser doing it "automatically." Saying the browser does it automatically would be like saying that your phone automatically dials your area code when you make a local call.
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Edit: Holy fuck, I get why people hate dealing with computer people.
The problem isn't how you're being responded to; it's being confidently wrong about things in a condescending way.
Jesus fucking christ, are you fucking serious? Do you have absolutely no self-awareness? You're bitching about "computer people" being rude to you when they're correcting you, but you just started a fucking comment with
...hey that's cool and all, but the user you're responding to isn't really wrong.
while at the same time being completely and totally wrong.
If you don't want people to be snarky when they respond to you, how about you don't start comments in the snarkiest possible way when you're discussing topics that you know nothing about?
Completely necessary is a stretch. I host all my services on the same domain, no probs. There are some good reasons not to if you have high load concerns, just to be able to have a CNAME record. But for that purpose the domain could as well be whateveryouwant.reddit.com
abcPIPPO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still type www when I type from my computer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if this is anywhere else, but in Finland we say it as if it was "VVV". It's a lot quicker and efficient.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but everyone uses it so everyone also knows the meaning.
EdvinM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same in Swedish. W is called "double V", so it's akin to saying "UUU" in English. Still wrong, but it makes more sense.
VAPossum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a colleague who calls me for internet and computer help. He knows I'm quite computer savvy, but when he's reciting a web address to me over the phone, he still starts out by spelling, "h-t-t-p, then the two slashes--I'm not sure if they're right to left or left to right, just try one and see if it works--and then a colon, then w-w-w, then dot, then..."
prodevel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're lucky you weren't around when the Internet first came around. Every radio ad would include the http://www. So annoying because it took 3-5 years for it to go away.
Iksuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only place I see it missing now is Amazon Smile.
I was listening to an episode of Coast to Coast from the 90s and Art Bell's guest gave the audience her web address thusly: "just go to HTTP colon forward slash forward slash ..."
eyeGunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually like it in conversation. It gives a clear indication that what I am about to say is a web address and it starts here and WWW is so distinct it can't be confused with anything you would normally say in conversation.
For a while, my school's website took forever to load if you didn't put the 'www'. If you added, it loaded like any other web page. Also, where do you live that people still say 'www'? Even from elderly people, I don't hear it anymore apart from a joke.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than the first days of the web when people used to spell out the whole darned thing. "Visit our website at H-T-T-P colon back-slash back-slash W-W-W dot N B C dot C-O-M."
And do you know why it was WWW in the first place? It was common in the 80s to name computers that served data, "hosts," with the data they served. A DNS host might be named dns.domain.tld. Similarly, the FTP server might have been ftp.domain.tld. But, the hostname could be ANYTHING. Campuses commonly had snoopy.domain.edu and linus.domain.edu, for instance. The "http:" at the front was what declared the desired service; the "www" just became the conventional name for your hypertext transfer protocol computer doing the web serving.
esumike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned when I was like 8 that you don't need "www" at the start of a web address. I always assumed it's included at the front because it's maybe necessary in rare cases or something. Like certain websites need a "www" at the front, but 95% of websites don't.
Interestingly, here in Germany they don't say the www in TV or radio ads as it's just implied with the .com or .de
it was quite weird listening to american radio the first time and hear them spell out the www everytime.
On or above the deck, in plain view, not hiding anything. Pirates would hide their crews below decks, thereby creating the false impression that an encounter with another ship was a casual matter of chance.
Bitter end
The last part or loose end of a rope or cable. The anchor cable is tied to the bitts; when the cable is fully paid out, the bitter end has been reached.
Cut of his jib
The "cut" of a sail refers to its shape. Since this would vary between ships, it could be used both to identify a familiar vessel at a distance, and to judge the possible sailing qualities of an unknown one. Also used figuratively of people.
Jury rig
Both the act of rigging a temporary mast and sails and the name of the resulting rig. A jury rig would be built at sea when the original rig was damaged, then it would be used to sail to a harbor or other safe place for permanent repairs.
Keelhauling
Maritime punishment: to punish by dragging under the keel of a ship.
Know the ropes
A sailor who 'knows the ropes' is familiar with the miles of cordage and ropes involved in running a ship.
Loose cannon
An irresponsible and reckless individual whose behavior (either intended or unintended) endangers the group he or she belongs to. A loose cannon, weighing thousands of pounds, would crush anything and anyone in its path, and possibly even break a hole in the hull, thus endangering the seaworthiness of the whole ship.
Rummage sale
A sale of damaged cargo (from French arrimage).
Shanghaied
Condition of a crewman involuntarily impressed into service on a ship.
Slush fund
The money obtained by the cook selling slush ashore. Used for the benefit of the crew (or the cook).
Square meal
A sufficient quantity of food. Meals on board ship were served to the crew on a square wooden plate in harbor or at sea in good weather. Food in the Royal Navy was invariably better or at least in greater quantity than that available to the average landsman. However, while square wooden plates were indeed used on board ship, there is no established link between them and this particular term. The OED gives the earliest reference from the US in the mid-19th century.
Three sheets to the wind
On a three-masted ship, having the sheets of the three lower courses loose will result in the ship meandering aimlessly downwind. Also, a sailor who has drunk strong spirits beyond his capacity.
Under the weather
Serving a watch on the weather side of the ship, exposed to wind and spray.
arcxjo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an alternative theory that "three sheets to the wind" comes from four-bladed windmills, where if one blade or "sheet" broke off, the other three arms would be weighted off-centre and would wobble as they spun.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a subway entry will always be a result of a "swipe", no matter what the action.
Edit: Yes, I know alternate forms exist. I mean no matter if Iโm โtappingโ or gaining telepathic entry, I think there will be a guy next to me asking โYo can I get a swipe?โ. Believe the term will stick, at least in NYC.
Yeah, but I think there are ambitions to allow access via phone tap, or maybe just a card that you tap rather than swipe. Thinking ahead, but "swipe" is so ingrained that I don't think it will go away.
The 'Oyster' card as an alternative to paper tickets has been around in London for about fourteen years. I think most regional lines in the UK have adopted a smartcard system of some sort.
Funnily enough, the Oyster card itself may well end up going this way, as Apple/Android Pay and Contactless bank card compatibility was added a few years ago, and most people have a Contactless card nowadays.
joechoj ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:02:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans are deeply suspicious of transit, and any changes to transit that approach efficiency, and really any social program that benefits the masses.
Seriously, transit systems here are 20-30 years behind the state of the art. Exceptional, indeed.
romple ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:26:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're not. But we don't exactly have the power to implement efficient mass transit systems. We pretty much all want it. But what people want and what government tries to do and what government actually ends up doing are not nearly as correlated as we'd all like.
joechoj ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:01:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're not.
You as a citizen may not be. But car-first transportation policies are baked into funding mechanisms at the federal, state & regional levels. On top of which most of suburbia and a surprising number of city-dwellers would rather give up their first-born child than one of their multiple family cars.
Lots of people like the idea of transit, right up until the point where they personally have to actually make a lifestyle change to make it happen. At that point, political discourse devolves into "Giveaways to the poor!" and "Why should I pay higher taxes?" and "You'll take that parking space out of my cold, dead hand!"
I don't dispute that you really do want better transit, as do many others. But by and large antiquated notions of individualism still guide urban transport policy. The exception that proves the rule is Minneapolis, with its expansive and well-developed transit system and Scandinavian & socialist heritage.
Things are changing a bit, but unfortunately the biggest changes seem to be coming from the private sector (car-share, bike-share, private shuttles) rather than the public sector. As such, the benefit is limited to those private sector interests.
romple ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:10:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You as a citizen may not be.
That was my point. Most citizens are not against public transit we just don't have the power to do anything about it. I live in DC, your choices are a broken transit system or 2 hours of gridlock to commute. We have 2 states and DC worth of politicians to ensure any transit programs are terrible and everything is slowed down by constant arguments about funding. But literally everyone here would kill for better transit and already pays a shitload in taxes for it.
The bigger arguments tend to be "I don't live anywhere near DC, why should my state taxes fund a DC transit system?" from people that live in VA and Maryland but nowhere near DC.
You just can't say "Americans" and imply that the average person commuting to work hates public transit.
I live less than a quarter mile from a metro stop and I work literally on the same corner as one. But if I took the metro it'd take 3 times longer than if I drove. It's faster if I bike to work (I do) than to metro to work. I'd love to not have to drive every day (which is why I bike) but mass transit is a non-option for me, unless I want to pay more to take 3x longer to get to work.
It has nothing to do with some conservative strawman who doesn't want to pay taxes.
And that's DC, every metro area is different.
joechoj ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:51:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just can't say "Americans"
With respect, I can and I do.
and imply that the average person commuting to work hates public transit.
I don't mean to imply anything of the sort. The root comment was from a non-American querying American transit. From this perspective, 'Americans' is writ large, referring not just to citizens but to our retrograde transit policies ... which Americans do own, whether we like it or not.
Taxes & parking are main points of resistance to transit expansion in every single city around the country. That's hardly a strawman.
The biggest reason for lack of transit improvements is cost. Just keeping up with maintenance, which all systems in the US struggle with, costs a fortune. Let alone upgrading anything.
joechoj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We seem to find a way to keep shelling out for highways, however.
You say that as though we shouldn't. Like you could possibly do everything needed via mass transit. And as if the country can't pursue both.
joechoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's to refute the notion that we don't have money to build & maintain transit. We do have that money, we just choose to spend it almost exclusively on car-based infrastructure.
That's ridiculous. All infrastructure is in bad shape right now. Unless you want to pay a lot more in taxes there simply isn't enough with what things cost. Especially in NYC and similar cities.
joechoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:50 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and it's in bad shape because of the overexpansion of highways in the first place, due to planners' baked-in assumption that transportation = cars. Individual cars have their advantages, but efficiency of user throughput is not among them. It's the system you get when you build for individuals rather than building for a society. The problem is that we as a society end up paying for a system that doesn't meet our transportation needs very well.
Your perspective on societal needs is just that, your perspective. There is a lot to be said for improvement of public transit in many places but it's hardly as simple as you seem to think it is.
joechoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:59 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool man
Upnorth4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My town's buses are around 20-30 years old, so your right there. Some towns near me just have those short buses as their form of public transit
Seattle has a total daily ridership of about 390,000 people. In New York itโs 5.7 million just on the subway and another ~2.5 million on buses. New York has an insane number of bus stops, buses, subway stations, and transit options that make it difficult to deploy any new system quickly.
For reference I just checked the stats and London is 1.37bn/year, so ~3.8m a day.
Don't have the stats for stops there, but I agree it's gonna be a fair few so it's certainly not impossible to bring in a new payment method. The problem NY has is the lack of will to do so.
I think in New York it's a lack of political will, money woes, and the fact that the subway system is 24/7, whereas save for a couple of lines, London does shut down for part of the night, which means that there's a little more time to do work. And while I lived there, it seemed like they were much more OK with shutting down large portions of the system for repairs, refurbishment, and expansion. It was annoying, of course, especially when parts of the lines I used shut down, but when I walked through the nice, clean stations and got onto the nice, clean (before you post cynical comments in response, I'm from New York, so my bar is low) Tube cars that went to lots and lots of places, I understood why. A little investment and sacrifice go a long way.
London:
270 Stations on the Underground, with 3.8m journeys per day - Approx 14,000 journeys per station.
19,000 bus stops, with 6.5m journeys per day. That's 342 journeys per bus stop.
NYC:
468 stations, 5.7m journeys daily. 12,000 journeys per station.
16,350 bus stops, 2.5m journeys daily. That makes 152 journeys per stop.
So the subway/tube networks deal with broadly the same volume of passengers per station, but the buses in London are dealing with over double the number of passengers per stop. Fittingly, London has around twice as many actual buses as NYC (8,000 vs ~4800).
Overall, I'd say the two systems are broadly comparable, so I'm fully in agreement that if London can have smartcards across the network, so can New York, and that the lack of will is the real barrier.
Actually, technically we still don't. We have chip and sign. Less secure but just as expensive to implement. Also still does not allow us compatibility with the rest of the developed world, as the blank-faced stares from the cashiers in London told me so plainly when their system asked for something so archaic as a 'signature'. Sigh.
Really? Which card? I've got three chip cards and none of them allow for PIN access (except at ATMs, which barely counts).
Fritzed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:32:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Officially, Visa and Mastercard have left it up to individual card issues to choose between preferring PIN or signature in the US. However, they both strongly recommend chip and signature for some reason.
Really? My Visa card strongly recommended chip and PIN. I still don't understand how the chip is more secure, though, honestly. If someone grabbed my card from me and used it, say, online, the purchase would still go through just fine, because they have the entire card's information right there, except for address. How is that more secure?
I am genuinely asking, as Google has been no help, and I have always wondered: Exactly how is a card with a chip more secure than a card without a chip? I could still swipe my mother's card and buy something with it, and she'd still get charged. I truly want to know. Also, for the record, I would never actually use my mother's card unless she first gave me permission to do so.
Fritzed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:32:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As for your personal experience, remember that you don't get your Visa card from Visa, you get it from an independent issuer (someone like capital one or your bank). Visa's official stance is that chip and signature is preferred in the US, but an issuer is fully free to disagree and prefer chip and pin. I'm not aware of any major issuers to have done this, but I'm sure there have been at least a couple of smaller ones.
In regards to chip card security, there are a few things that make it more secure. For chip and PIN, obviously the PIN is validated in real time and serves as an additional means of authentication.
As for the chip card itself (or chip and signature), the primary security advantage is a lack of replayability. That means that if someone were to intercept the card data either in transmission or at the reader, the data is mostly useless to them (for physical purchases). Every time that the card is dipped, the chip generates a one-time signature. Without the actual chip, you can't generate a valid signature.
An important caveat is that the reader does still get access to the card number. So somebody could theoretically get that card number and put it on an old fashioned mag-stripe only card or key it into the internet for an online order. Each of these is protected against in other ways.
For making a physical replica card with only mag-stripe, the card authorization network will recognize that there should be a chip on the card and merchants with chip capable hardware will rightly reject it. (and according to the current rules, merchants without chip capable hardware are nearly defenseless against chargebacks)
For online purchases, every site of any value at all should be validating the Card Code from the back of the card. This value is only physically printed on the card. It does not exist in the chip or the mag stripe, so it isn't available to skimmers.
Ok, but let's say I did steal my mother's card. I could still use the chip and sign method with it and make a purchase quite easily and successfully. Then all I'd have to do is toss the card so it's not found on my person, and, depending on where I used the card, if there are no cameras I could get off scot-free. Where I live, it is not uncommon for stores to have chip readers but not necessarily security cameras, not to mention small vendors or people that have a business in their home. I just feel like the chip is only more secure in certain instances, and even so, you can still make fraudulent purchases with them. My friend Laura has had that happen multiple times since she got her chip card. She's on her 3rd or 4th completely new card now.
Fritzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:16 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's correct, but physical card theft is by far the least common type of fraud.
Even with a chip card, though, if someone manages to get ahold of your card numbers (code on the back included), they can still use that. And then you still have a fraudulent charge that you have to contact the bank/credit card company about. It seems to me it only really offers protection against skimmers, at least, if I'm understanding correctly what you wrote in your original response.
Fritzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:17 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's correct. There really isn't any protection against somebody physically having your card. For the most part, this is considered an acceptable risk in the industry. Large scale skimming and leaks are the bigger problem for most people.
That being said, it is something that chip+pin indirectly protects against because the chip+pin flow requires that the card status in your presence as you enter the pin. At that point, you are really only worrying about having your wallet stolen.
tmiw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:13:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
every site of any value at all should be validating the Card Code from the back of the card
In my experience, Amazon definitely doesn't do that--at least on the US site, anyway. They may still be verifying the billing address, however.
tmiw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might be legally required there? Since I don't think it is in the US, Amazon probably crunched the numbers and realized they lost more from people abandoning their orders than they saved on fraud.
Of course, this calculation could eventually change at some point.
It might not be a legal requirement, but the card issuers could all require it... I guess either way that's certainly plausible.
Fritzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been a while since I put a new card in Amazon, but I believe that it does require the card code on the first attempt. I know for certain that they do validate billing address and new customers are restricted to shipping to their billing address.
tmiw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember the latter part but I've had an Amazon account for a while, too. It's also possible the code thing's changed recently.
I will have to click this link at home. I can't get on YouTube on our work computers, sadly. We used to be able to when I first started here, but then they blocked it, which is sad, because I used to use YouTube for background music at my desk, so I didn't have to wear down my phone battery. shrugs Oh well; I've got a much newer phone now, and the battery more than holds up, so I really shouldn't complain now. Lol.
But thanks for this information! I was truly curious, and, as I said, when I Googled, all I could find was articles saying that they ARE more secure, but none explained the how or the why.
tmiw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turns out a lot of people extremely dislike stuff like portable card terminals at restaurants that would end up becoming necessary if PIN was common. It's no surprise that mandating PIN on a card could be a hassle for both the cardholder and the bank, or even worse, make it so that restaurants and other merchants simply don't bother with the chip at all.
(I have one of the few cards that require PIN and have had merchants outright reject it before because of that. Others insert my card the wrong way so that their terminal would let them swipe or even just manually enter the card number to get around the PIN prompt. I don't use that card much anymore.)
I use a portable terminal in restaurants all the time. Never had a problem using it. Never seen anyone else complain either...if it's under ยฃ30, I just use my phone...
tmiw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I have to guess, I bet it's the tipping culture in the US that makes those disliked. It's a lot easier to implement elsewhere when there's no pressure coming from the server standing there while you enter a tip into the terminal.
Can't see even then why they'd be disliked, but hey ho. I mean, I use them to tip...when they're standing there and tell you the bill, if I feel like they warrant a tip, I'll say ten.;
e.g. "OK sir, that will be ยฃ24.30, please" "Sure, thanks, just round it up to ยฃ30" "OK, thank you. Either tap your card, or insert and type your PIN number" "Sure. Thanks" as I mentally regret the tip because it ALREADY SAYS NUMBER IN IT!!!ARRGHHHHHHH...
And, breathe...
I don't think I've even signed my last few cards...
I get a bit surprised if I have to use my PIN. Usually I just use Apple-pay on my phone, and occasionally because it's over the retailer's limit, I have to use my actual card and type the PIN!
Quite a lot of the time, I leave my wallet at home. Don't need it. Change is in the car if I need coins (rarely, if ever), and I have my phone for card payments...
When I was in London, whenever I paid with my card, the cashier would actually ask to see my Photo ID to match the signature with the one i wrote on the receipt.
Then I figured out that contactless was everywhere and just used Android pay for everything
Washington, DC has had SmartTrip tap cards for a while as well.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:25:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only place in the US with actual functional public transit is New York (no DC, Boston, Chicago - please sit down - you still own a car and you know it.)
We used tokens on the MTA (NYC Subway) until the early 00's. I moved here right as they were being phased out and I don't really remember the term people used for employing one.
But since the introduction of the MetroCard, people have always said "swipe." They've been talking for years about replacing MetroCards with a system where you can pay with your credit card. But knowing how the MTA operates, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Arguing that MTA could add X feature because they already have it in Philadelphia/Miami/Duluth metro is like arguing that the U.S. could adopt universal healthcare because Scandinavian countries have it.
I've lived in both NYC and London. I LOVE the Oyster card, simply because "touch or hover card on big yellow thing" takes so much less effort and dexterity than swiping a MetroCard. You're only very rarely stuck behind tourists or drunk people (or you're not holding up the line while drunk/tired) who just can't get their card to work.
Though when I came back to NYC, it took me about a month to stop taking my MetroCard out again when I got off the train and was getting ready to leave the subway station.
Haven't downloaded it yet, but I see advertised on tele yesterday oyster have released their own top up app. Wonderful really if it works. Where I live all the busses are TFL and the trains are one zone out and there's literally one shop in the whole place that will top up your oyster and If you didn't know the area you'd never find it. I wonder if that'll be something like paying with your phone and you'd be able to tap with the phone not the card, or buy tickets through it.
My home town has no smart card but has an app you can buy tickets on.
I stopped using my Oyster card about a year before I left London. I used Southern's Key Smartcard for my journey to work, and contactless debit for the tube/buses.
I actually can't believe it took this long for TfL to release an app for topping up Oyster. I had Auto-Top Up on mine, but so many people didn't know that was a thing, and it was really fiddly to set up and manage. I was also in Zone 3, so never far from a station. It would have driven me barmy not being able to top up that easily!
Is key any good? is it more cost effective than oyster? They take that at my stop but I donโt really know anything about it, I donโt take the train as regularly as I used to. Iโd like to go places more.
Itโs pretty useful if the alternative is a paper ticket - you can manage it online and you donโt need a photo card.
You can either buy specific tickets, or put credit on it. You can do both at the same time.
PAYG only seemed to work at exclusively Southern stations though - if you tried to use it at Balham (where I used to live) and you only had credit and not a ticket, it wouldnโt work.
Prices are the same as regular tickets, so no savings really. Is just easier to use a tap card than fanny about with paper tickets.
Martipar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:48:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, Oyster was an almost complete failure. It was only adopted by the TFL for transport payment when it's original goal was a pre-paid card similar to the current contactless payment systems around now, able to pay for anything anywhere.
I actually think it would be kinda nice to have some stored value you could use for other stuff on the Oyster Card. When I lived in London, I'd go running with just my house keys, my phone, and my Oyster Card so I could run as long a distance as I pleased and not have to think about looping back, and I remember thinking it would be so convenient if I could just use my Oyster Card to buy a drink or a snack on my way home, instead of remember to bring my debit card/some cash, or just suck it up until I got home. I think the Beijing transit card (Yikatong) can be used at KFC and a couple of other places.
It's kind of comparing apples to oranges, but the Boston subway has a free tap card that feels like a credit card. If Boston can do it, why not NY? Oh right, the absolute massive scale of the system and the urgent need for more essential repairs.
MrCrash ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair, the boston subway also needs a serious overhaul and systemic repairs. But they prioritized overhauling the system that gets them your fucking money as fast as possible.
Once they have your money, you can sit on the platform while disabled trains go by and the loudspeaker tells you that the track switches are offline. Get ready for adventure!
Wierd657 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MTA has cell and WiFi in most stations now, not in the tunnels however
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was resistant to Ventra at first because I would always lose my CTA passes very quickly and enjoyed being able to get a new one free of charge at any time lol.
In DC, we tap our cards. You don't even have to wait for the gate to close before the next person taps theirs. Our metro may be literally on fire, but at least we don't have to swipe.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're planning on beginning integration tests for cardless entry in 2021 or 2022, I believe. It'll support NFC MetroCards, NFC enabled mobile phones, and even mobile payment systems like Apple Pay and Android Pay.
In Madrid you just tap your regular state ID (which has a chip for such things) on the thingy and off you go. My friend just sets his wallet on the turnstyle and it works.
The CTA in Chicago has been switched over to plastic cards you load value on to and tap on the turnstile as you enter. Way more convenient than shoving the old mag stripe paper cards through a card slot
Pretty sure everywhere else has gone 100% contactless. DC and Chicago and Montreal have. Seems like it's less prone to failure from the card getting demagnetized or bending.
If you've ever slammed your pubic bone into the turnstile when the card reader didn't read your Metrocard, you'll see the flaw in their design.
Vaulter1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:23:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have two choices then:
Approach the turnstile at a walking speed of 3.1 mph and at a distance of approximately 1 ft from the start of the chutes slow your walking pace to approximately 1 mph. Simultaneously extend your right hand, accelerating it to 2.1 mph relative to your body, and swipe your card through the reader. At this point there should be 1.5 ft between your leading foot and the actual turnstile barrier. As you shift your weight on to it, glance over at the card reader to ensure the swipe was valid. This is your go/no-go point where forward motion should be slow enough that you can stop before hitting the turnstile, should the swipe be rejected. If your calculations were correct, the swipe should be valid and you can then accelerate back up to 3.1 mph, casually rotating the barrier and going about your daily commute.
alternatively
Just do what everyone else does and stop right in front of one of the chutes then rummage in your wallet/purse for your metrocard. After you've found it, stand flat footed in front of the turnstile and swipe the card at varying speeds until it accepts the swipe. Don't move yet though - you've got to get back on your phone and finish typing that urgent Facebook post. OK, now you can proceed through the turnstiles at the blistering 1 mph and continue annoying everyone around you.
Lol yesterday a lady did just that. Starbucks in one hand, rummaging around in her purse with the other, standing IN the turnstile. I have no problem calling these people out though idgaf
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:16:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In NYC, if you need to swipe more than once THEN YOU FAIL AT BEING A NY-ER. Everyone judges you, they're mad at you, and either secretly or directly call you a tourist.
True! I just visited for the first time last month and was so proud of myself when by the end of the week I had it down to just one swipe. Legit new yourka here!
I call my Clipper card a slap card, but they're experimenting with putting the payment system on smartphones, so that'll be outdated soon.
sykopoet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I can't wait until they finally put Clipper on smartphones. Then I never have to stand in line at the 1 in 6 BART machines currently working while being hassled for change...
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:03:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we kind of cram our charlie tickets into holes here in Boston, or smash your wallet with your charlie card in it against the fucking turnstile until you give up and throw your backpack over the gate.
VAPossum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find that so weird, since tokens were used 40 years before swipes were, but I don't know what they'd do to replace swipes. Taps, maybe, like tapping a card, phone, or a smart watch thing?
People used to make records
As in a record of an event
The event of people
Playing music in a room
Now everything is cross-marketing
It's about sunglasses and shoes
Or guns or drugs
You choose
That's what I was paraphrasing, subconsciously. I knew that I had heard it before but couldn't remember exactly where. I used to listen to "So Much Shouting, So Much Laughter" all the time. I love the drumming on the first disc.
lfantine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody buys cds anymore, they're outdated. Records are outdated as well but they at least have advantages ovet digital music. CDs are already digital but almost as inconvenient as records.
benisimo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:49:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself. My physical collection is literally all CDs, even though I just rip them anyways and put in my ipod. Though I might start collecting vinyl in the near future.
Is it really worth it though? The price inhibit of LP is understandable. But for a few extra bucks for a CD you get a format that sounds better and provides the added benefit of extractable MP3s for infinitely more compatibility options. From what I remember, they jam and get scratchy after many playthroughs. They just seem like a complete headache.
A lot of cassettes nowadays also come with digital download codes. Regardless, ripping a cassette is very easy. Most problems with cassettes arise due to poor maintenance of playback equipment. You're right in saying that audio quality of often worse, but depending on the nature of the music that may not be an issue.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The advantage of cassette is they're easier to store and a lot cheaper, so they're easier to collect.
temp0557 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least vinyl sounds good.
Subjective.
Accuracy however isn't subjective. Frankly, I believe you can fake the sound of vinyl by running it through a post process filter.
PS: Got a feeling I'm poking a hornet's nest here. LOL
Edit: Just remembered, I believe a lot of vinyl records nowadays are created from digital masters. ๐คฃ
Records are just cooler and more fun to collect than CDs.
temp0557 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:48:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quite sure it's MP3s and AAC files that have killed of CDs - for mainstream use.
CDs never had "vintage" appeal like vinyl and cassette tapes as they just aren't old enough - yet.
Ironically, CDs and digital files store music better as they degrade less (if at all) compared to vinyl (physical groves in plastic subjected to wear and tear) and cassette tape (magnetic strips can "wear out" over time).
That makes sense. I'm pretty sure vinyl sales are as high or higher now than they have ever been. With Bluetooth and spotify being so prevalent and more convenient than CDs, people that are looking to buy physical most likely prefer a larger, more complete work of art with a vinyl record.
No way are sales "as high or higher now than they have ever been." They are just outselling other mediums, people are still buying music but nowhere near the amount we were buying "pre-file sharing". Music industry used to outperform Hollywood, that power is looooong gone.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:53:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm curious why you thought of this one specific band without any extra info?
1mikeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only reason to buy a CD was because of the digital format. That format has been replaced with the MP3, so CD's are basically dead at this point. Vinyl is the only source for analog format at this this point.
Pretty much no one wants cds anymore. A lot of smaller bands use cassette and bigger bands use vinyl. I feel like The only people who buy cds are people who don't have aux ports in their cars
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And cassette tapes are coming back! At least in the rock world. The latest While She Sleeps, Enter Shikari, Nothing But Thieves & Don Broco albums have had limited addition tapes as part of pre-order bundles.
The word "album" too. It referred to a cardboard booklet that contained records, like a photo album.
2PhatCC ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 16:00:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, the dictionary definition - for musical purposes - is a collection of recordings issued as a single item. So album is usually quite accurate unless everyone's releasing singles.
Yes. That's the definition now. Before vinyl LP records were introduced in the 1940s, records were made of shellac and could only store about five minutes of music on each side. Collections of pop songs, as well as longer classical music pieces, were sold as sets in a printed "record album" which had sleeves for each record and was bound together like a book.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:59:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And EP is extended play which is confusing to us now since we're used to albums - why would a shorter version be called extended? Because when singles were the norm, having 4-6 songs was an extension.
We're gonna have similar problems when people realize we didn't cover the entire conceivable scale of resolutions when they invented the terms "standard definition" and "high definition", and already have to some point with shit like "Ultra HD". If the societal collapse wasn't imminent, in 20 years we'd have "Hyper mega ultra super makes-ultra-hd-look-like-cave-paintings HD" and people will be sad if their 3000" 5D TV with natural solar reaction backlight only supports Mega ultra super makes-ultra-hd-look-like-cave-paintings HD.
Pretty sure you're right but you're point doesn't contradict mine. 12" 45rpm EPs play longer than 6" 45 rpm singles but, despite the name, are shorter than 12" 33rpm LPs. Although nowadays you can just do whatever you want, I have a couple 10" 33rpm EPs and a 12" single.
Interesting, especially looking at the derivation being from an older meaning of "blank tablet" or something. Emphasis on the blank. I always viewed it as being the collection itself, not the container then used for a specific collection. Etymology is fascinating. I'd have fought you on this, but read up on it. I think you are right.
So often, you see things like this that are just flat-out wrong. The belief that a word's origin being one thing is so strong, that it effectively becomes the truth, and the REAL origin is made out to be a myth. I guess you see similar things in religion; just look at Christmas, for instance. "Remember the reason for the season!" Okay, let's remember axial tilt.
By about 1910,[note 1] bound collections of empty sleeves with a paperboard or leather cover, similar to a photograph album, were sold as record albums that customers could use to store their records (the term "record album" was printed on some covers). These albums came in both 10-inch and 12-inch sizes. The covers of these bound books were wider and taller than the records inside, allowing the record album to be placed on a shelf upright, like a book, suspending the fragile records above the shelf and protecting them.
In the 1930s, record companies began issuing collections of 78 rpm records by one performer or of one type of music in specially assembled albums, typically with artwork on the front cover and liner notes on the back or inside cover. Most albums included three or four records, with two sides each, making six or eight tunes per album. When the 12-inch vinyl LP era began in 1949, the single record often had the same or similar number of tunes as a typical album of 78s, and was still often referred to as an "album", as they still are today.
rawbface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see this as using an antiquated term. A music album is supposed to literally be a collection of art, not much differing from a photo album. The album is in the collection, and not the form of media.
A music album is supposed to literally be a collection of art, not much differing from a photo album
A photo album is a physical book used for storing photos, not just a collection of photos. A bunch of photos hanging on the wall, or glued into a scrapbook, are not a photo album. A stack of photos sitting on the table is not a photo album. The word was co-opted by software companies because the "albums" in your phone's photo library are the digital equivalent of a physical photo album. It's just like the word "file" used to refer to a physical file drawer full of punch cards, or a bug was a literal insect inside the computer.
Similarly, the phrase "record album" referred to the book with protective sleeves to hold several records. When the format changed and the physical albums weren't required anymore, people kept saying "album" because it was a word people had already been using for decades.
I'm not saying that the word "album" is incorrect. Words change in their meaning over time. The etymological history of the word, though, has nothing to do with something being a collection of anything. The origin of the word is entirely due to the physical format that was used 100 years ago. It's the exact sort of thing that OP was asking for examples of when he/she created this thread.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if he/she will continue to deny it.
badcgi ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:18:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The origin of the term Album for music came about because early records only held a couple of minutes per side. So a collection of recordings were released in a book of sleeves like a photo album.
Really? A photo album has a bunch of photos presented together. A song album has a group of songs presented together. Doesn't have anything to do with the "booklet" format. Tapes, CDs, are still albums.
Believe it or not, sometimes the current meaning of words is completely different from their origins. In fact, that's what this entire thread is about!
When the medium was 78 rpm 10" shellac records, they were basically all "singles" in that they had one song on each side usually. An artist often still released albums, which were then literally an album of several records, under a common title. Just like the person you are responding to said. That is the origin of the term album in the musical sense. Of course since then the meaning has shifted a little, but only because several songs could be fitted on one record all of a sudden: it is still a collection of several songs grouped together under one title. So in that sense the meaning hasnt changed.
Also while we don't usually say LP, we do still say EP for CD's when referring to a release with only about 4-6 tracks.
(LP - Long Play, EP - Extended play)
Not really. The obsolete part of a record was the word vinyl, not record itself. A vinyl record was a recording (or record) that happened to be pressed on vinyl, but to save time people just called them records. But no matter what it's recorded to (tape recorder, for instance, video recorder, digital recorder) it's still a record, so that part never became obsolete, and its usage far predates vinyl records (think a written record of the proceedings).
temp0557 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know ... if I'm right, a lot of vinyl records nowadays are actually created from digital masters. :P
kkehoe5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the Grammys has record of the year and album of the year awards. Record for a single song and album for the whole....album.
IMLOwl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm speculating, but in 1959 when the Grammy's began, most songs were sold as stand-alone singles, so what you think now as a 'record' was originally just the one song and sometimes a b-side. Just like in the original case, I think it's just the vernacular changing.
ChadHahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Albums originally meant a book of 78 records. Each 78 would have a song per side and if the company had a a group of songs they'd put them in an album.
I see that this has already been said numerous times. :(
โPeople used to make records, as in a record of an event: the event of people playing music in a room.โ (Thatโs a line from Ani Difrancoโs โFuel.โ)
Ennhh, I'd say this one is still somewhat accurate. What we used to call a "record" as in a vinyl record was only called that because something was "recorded" on to it. Modern day music even streaming or mp3's are still "recorded". Only now, they are more likely to be recorded on computers.
didn't the concept of "recording" something exist before vinyls were referred to as records?
civex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Albums. Original albums were containers for collections of things: photograph albums, record albums from when records had two songs on a single 78RPM shellac disc, stamp albums.
When 33 1/3 records came out with maybe 6 songs on each side, the disc was called an album because it had a collection of songs, even though it was still one disc.
A record is the single. There's a Grammy for Record of the Year, which goes to a song, and Album of the Year, which goes to a completed work of multiple songs.
In the late 80s/early 90s, a lot of people started albums "discs" for obvious reasons. I remember my brother telling me about a disc I had to listen to. The trend seemed to die out and album came back into fashion. People used to refer to albums and "tapes" also when the compact cassette was at it's heyday.
Record connotes vinyl, which is a synecdoche for a phonograph, but it started as shorthand because phonographs were for many years the only way to get a recording. Technically, a "record" is still correct for any released music media, regardless of format, and the Grammy's still use "record" in the original sense. That's why there's an Record of the Year (single track) in addition to Album of the Year category.
Uh no. There are things called vinyl records that many people called records, but that alone doesn't change the meaning of the word "record" which is just a documenting of something that happened.
Connotation is not definition. The definition of record is a document of something that happened. But when discussing music, if someone says "record," most people think of the thing actually named a phonograph.
What about EDM assembled from samples in something like Ableton? It spits out piece of music but nothing actually happened. If I press that to CD, do I have a record?
The thing that happened was the assembly -- whatever maintains that assembly is the record, be it project file or the output file or a CD. I'm too lazy to go check, but I bet the Academy would agree an all sample track would still be a "recording". And it wasn't anyone's point, it was someone else's basis for their point, both of which are correct. And a "zing" is not trolling unless I didn't mean it (I did) and just want to argue (merely a side perk).
jefuchs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Album is another one. I own a couple of antique albums. They're like a photo album, with individual pages for each single record. A collection of singles were stored together in an actual album. Later, the songs were all pressed onto a single record, but the name remained.
They are both considered pound signs. Sorry I did not specify for a phone, but it is still referred to as the โpoundโ or โnumberโ sign/key when referring to the symbol on a phone.
Though technically the # symbol is called an octothorp, so the deception and changing of information continues!
Hat probably is how Twitter got it then. Where are you from?
Itโs interesting because even my mom uses # to replace lbs when she is talking about weight because it was just customarily called a pound sign or number sign.
From what I know in US itโs mostly referred to as a pound sign or number sign, so I wonder how some American programmers in California discovered some Australia slang. It would be interesting to see where else itโs called a hash because Iโve never actually heard that before.
So that's why it's called a pound sign- sincerely 19 year old guy
If you had it before the 24 like this: "#24" I would have known it meant "number twenty-four" but I have never heard of it being used that way to denote weight.
Wow, I've never seen # as 'pound'. I'm from the UK, and # is just 'hash'
It iritated me so much when people started calling it 'hashtag'. It's only called tag because it's used to tag things on twitter. The symbol itself is just 'hash'
My mother does this too, I thought she was the only one ๐
Emtreidy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:36:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Pop did, too. But then he grew up during the Depression, so he actually had an ice box.
deFleury ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom grew up with a literal ice box too, and milk delivered by a horse.
Emtreidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:37 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, he had the same! Actually, my uncles (my motherโs brothers) stole a Budweiser wagon being pulled by Clydesdales. My Scottish gran had to go get them at the Precinct & the desk sergeant mistook her accent for an Irish brogue. He let them go. Not sure which she felt worse about...them being thieves or her being mistaken for Irish!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is funny because most freezers don't even make ice any more. I mean like frost on the inside of it.
wildgift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ice boxes were these wooden boxes where you would put a block of ice into a compartment on top. They predate the kind of refrigerators, with compressors, that we use today.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:50 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know what an icebox is sonny.
rennez77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I regularly say this because my parents and grandparents often did/do.
Calendar comes from "the kalends", which for the Romans meant the first day of any month. The fifteenth of any month was "the ides". Beware those.
January is named for Janus, the god of new beginnings and transitions.
February is named for the rawhide strips used in a religious festival held that time of year.
March is for Mars, the god of war. This time of year and the honoring of Mars weren't coincidental. This is when the weather permitted the easy movement of troops, hence the launching or continuation of military campaigns.
Skipping to the end, September through December mean Seventh-month through Tenth-month, which is interesting in English today because our last four months are off by two. We're in December now, and "dec" means ten, not twelve. September means seventh month (sept comes from the Latin word for seven, and is the French word for seven today), but it's our ninth month. The shifting is due to Julius Caesar and his adopted son and heir, Augustus. Julius, after becoming dictator, decided to insert a month at his favorite time of year and named it after himself, hence July. Augustus did the same thing after becoming emperor, hence Augustus. The remaining months kept their names because tradition trumped accuracy (another way Romans are just like us).
Testimony -- this is our word for speaking on the record in a court of law. The word's meaning can be seen in its roots -- testes and testicle. This is because in ancient Rome, when you spoke on the record in a court of law, you swore on your balls. This is not a joke!
Saturday is named for Saturn, the the Roman god of wealth, agriculture, and a few other things.
Candidate comes from the clothing of a Roman standing for election, which was an especially white toga called toga candida.
Emperor is our word for the leader of an empire, but that's not what it meant to the Romans of Augustus' world in the first century. In Latin, it's Imperator, which means a person who has been granted imperium by the Roman senate, and imperium meant that you held the legal right to levy and train soldiers and conduct warfare on behalf of Rome. It was perhaps the most powerful honor the senate could bestow on an individual, and it signified immense trust because the Romans were fearful of tyranny. Augustus led the nation of Rome and held imperium, as well as those who came after, and over time, the two meanings blended together, and eventually the "nation of Rome" part fell away to become generic for any large, powerful country with an eye to expansion.
Subjugate -- to us this means to enslave or control. It was the same for Romans, but it was more colorful and symbolic. In Latin it means under (sub) and yoke (jugate); literally, under the yoke. An ox is controlled because he's under the yoke, and if you do that to people, you've conquered them. Welcome to Rome.
Circus -- to a Roman this was a stadium for chariot racing, not a place to exhibit animals (some were multi-purpose, and the meaning changed somewhat over time). The Circus Maximus in the city of Rome could host 150,000 people, and chariot racing for Romans was the equivalent of F1 or NASCAR today. The teams and drivers were famous and there was betting on the races.
Gladiator -- the true meaning had already fallen out of use by the time of Ceasar and Augustus. It originally meant swordsman (gladius = sword), but it came to mean the person who fought in the games, regardless of weapon.
Ring -- we all know what a ring is, but to an ancient roman, the word for ring was anus. Think about that the next time you're ramming home a Michelob bottle. :/
It's funny how few people seem to remember that name. It seems like once DVD players became common, at least younger people started calling them "VHS players" instead.
It is. I had to look it up though, because in my 37 years on this planet I've never known what it was and didn't care until this discussion. Learning something every day :-)
Speaking of CRT, people still sometimes talk about the "beam" and related terminology like "scanning" "scan rate" etc. when talking about display systems that do no such thing. Too obscure to warrant a top level post IMO, but since you mention CRT...
bizitmap ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:41:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "record" comes from the french word "to remember" so you're literally using a machine to remember a show. Even the world the french word "recorder" comes from the latin "cor" meaning heart. As in "to take to heart".
All words at their root come from things they weren't originally used for.
Manual transmissions used to be "standard" when automatics came out. Now you have to specify "manual" because if you say standard some people assume an automatic transmission because it is becoming (has been for a while now) the standard equipment.
I wonder if my kids/grandkids will be in the same position with self-driving cars. What we now think of as standard and automatic automobiles, will maybe soon have to be specified as a "manual" car.
Lan777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for the first time ever we actually have real auto-mobiles.
Virge23 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:43:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really hoping that people start calling them autos and not cars. called it a car for so long that we'd forgotten that it was originally shorthand for horseless carriage. Maybe next we could replace the term horsepower with a measurement that actually means something and doesn't fluctuate wildly.
drakeg4 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:59:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower is actually advertised in different measurements depending on your country. The alternatives are Kilowatts and "PS" which is just a weird metric tweak of horsepower that only vaguely relates to the metric system.
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought of it as coming from the word "trawl" as in fishing. As in you would be trawling for emotional responses.
That is the ethymological root of Internet trolling. However, the double meaning of Nasty ugly creature popping its head up all over the place - ended up being to enticing.
You are correct, except trolling is actually a separate but similar fishing term from trawling.
People used to say they were trolling for newbies or flames or something, meaning hey we're pulling their metaphorical fishing line along and hoping someone would bite (respond).
Trolling and trawling are actually both fishing terms by different methods. Trawling is with a net, trolling with a baited line. I always assumed that it came from "trolling" for trouble or attention, but then it was convenient that a person doing the act was a "troll" because of it being an ugly unsavory thing to do.
OK, thanks, I didn't realize that "troll" was a fishing term as well. That definitely makes sense then.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. Ignore the trolling idiots; if you're trolling for fish or if you're on the internet playing juvenile games to elicit impassioned replies, you're "trolling."
Nope. It's directly from bridge troll. You can trawl the internet for information. I've actually heard people say they were trolling the internet for information. I think it's a common misconception.
I find it more likely that it's trolling for trouble or a fight and the fact that a "troll" is an ugly unsavory creature is a convenient coincidence. Trolling is dropping a baited line as opposed to trawling with a net. I think I'm right and am trolling for a fight :).
My workplace had a functional punch clock that I used until a few months ago when we switched to an online timeclock. It's still there, clacking away, I think one employee still uses it.
scroom38 ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 19:15:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My work (4 years ago) used a punch clock so they could shortchange people on hours by rounding.
If you didnt pay attention you lost a few bucks a month.
Speaking of bucks. A buck (deer) skin used to be worth about $1, hence the alternate way of saying dollar.
My place uses Kronos to clock in or out. We get docked 15 minutes if we're 1 minute late. We don't have to clock in and out for lunch though which I didn't know before now but I am so glad for.
A lot of mechanic shops do where you use a time punch on individual jobs to show your time on them. Most dealers are computerized but small shops often use cards with many removable stickers.
CyanBlob ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:03:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used one at my previous job not even 6 months ago. It was a software company. I was definitely surprised when I found out that the still used punch cards.
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A punchcard is not a time card. A time card keeps track of hours worked. A punch card (or an IBM card, or Hollerith card if you want to go full retro) contained up to 80 digits of data and were usually a line of code or an element of a file.
Your geek credibility is on pretty shaky ground there!!
I employ contract workers and temps from time to time. We have a punch clock. Select which in/out function and load the card. It slides in and punches the time in the proper block.
Way easier than trying to setup accounts for every new person or trying to trust their handwriting or "estimated" times.
I know you've probably gotten a bunch of responses saying the same thing, but my company still uses punch-cards. Hell, my last job was even more low-tech; the boss just added up our hours in his head.
Disclaimer; before people start telling me I was probably being cheated, I definitely wasn't. I always kept a running tally of my hours, and come payday I was overpaid more often than not.
Ehcksit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My employer uses punch cards.
Decimal-minute 24-hour clock with a lever to punch ink onto a paper time card. I've been trained on changing the ink roll and the time.
I used to work in a machine shop. Most of the stuff there (including the owner) was about a century old. The time clock was no exception. Works well enough and it's easy for an old man to wrap his head around.
I usually agree when this is said about me but why on this comment?
tavis73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha well I wasn't being totally serious and more about the parent comment than the post, but he tried to make a point and you pretty much shot it down saying it still happens
At my work we have a digital machine, and our phrase is to 'clock in/out'.
I like that, but I dislike that we call the machine the 'clocking in machine'. It deserves a better name, not just a description of what it does.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve had two jobs where I had to punch in and out, but the younger ones called it โloggingโ in. But on that note, signing in came from literal signing your name as present in the building as opposed to using an email and password.
mrdude05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think some companies still have a time clock. At the company that I retired from we didn't punch in and out. All we had to do was sign in on a sheet of paper. When so many people took advantage of it then the company went with the card and slider method.
araxhiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother said the saying came from cord phones hooked to the wall and needing someone to physically hold the phone until they can get to it-- cord phones are rare at homes now, most are used in work settings. Nonetheless, I shall continue to use this outdated saying with great enthusiasm :) :)
Timeworm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hate it when these "concierges" have a silent door unlock without any visual cue. Noisy environment - don't hear the subtle 'click'. Pulling the door does not always release when unlock activates.
ebbomega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if you pull too early it won't unlock. Door strikes need to have no pressure on them in order to unlatch, so if you're pulling on the door while you get buzzed, the door won't actually open.
Patjay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still say "clock-in"/"clock-out" even though all done on computers now
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the buzzer is only an alert for the person looking to go through so they know the lock has disengaged. A light or a click is essentially the same thing so wouldn't the phrase still be appropriate? I still say my phone is ringing even though it's playing the music from the Witcher 3 rather than a bell sound.
You can also spot people that learned to type on a typewriter when they send you double-spaced Word documents.
EDIT: I guess it's a little too old to be obvious (which is actually pretty appropriate for this thread), but different from the traditional academic use, "double spacing" when used as typing term used to refer to adding an extra space at the end of each sentence.
Copied from below so I don't have to type it again:
"Not line spacing, two spaces after punctuation marks. The blank space on a typewriter was about half the width of the characters, so you would have to push the space bar twice to make the spacing between sentences look correct. Software has made this unnecessary, but people that learned on typewriters tend to still do it that way."
I learned to type on a computer and was still taught this in the early 2000s, although I now follow the accepted one space rule. I work in an office with a lot of people who are my parents' age or older though, and most of them still do it.
I learned to type on a pc and i was taught to double space.
However the first time i had to type an essay to hand in i didn't realize that double spaced meant lines. I turned on the character visibility mode and manually counted 2 spaces between each word lol. My teacher cracked up at me when he realized what i'd done. In my defense I was 11 and it was like, 1998
That's why that's a thing? I had teachers through high school who demanded that and i thought it was the most ridiculous thing on the planet.
Wierd657 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned on a computer and I was always told by my mom, teachers, and IIRC formatting rules that suggest a double space after a period at the end of a sentence.
And another thing... most virtual keyboards (onscreen/smartphone) insert a period and a space when the space bar is double tapped.
Double spacing is definitely a thing taught in the 2000s. I don't think my English teachers ever actually checked, but not double spacing was definitely considered improper formatting.
And yes, I mean two spaces after a full stop.
clubby37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned to type on a computer. I have always put two spaces at the end of sentences because it makes the text easier to read. I'm not convinced that typewriters are the source of this convention, but even if they are, the practice still serves a purpose today.
Also, when I learned to type, on a computer, all those years ago "double-space" did not refer to the two spaces after a period, but to leaving blank lines in between each typed line. This is the first time I've ever seen "double-space" (in the context of typing) used to describe horizontal space.
nyrol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was always taught in school to add two spaces after a period when using MS Word and such.
I still push the space bar twice. I had no idea....
Indenting paragraphs: We also had to do the 2 (or 3?) finger rule for starting a new written paragraph. Now I just hit the space bar 5 times, because that's what we did on a typewriter. I'm probably doing that wrong too huh? I noticed it'll automatically try to do this for me when I'm starting a new paragraph. But oh no, I'm back spacing to the beginning of the line to MAKE SURE there are 5 space bars. I don't trust "shift" or whatever button it is I'm pushing to indent my paragraph damn it.
xAmerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My god... I always wondered why my mom (60 yo) always double spaced her documents. TIL!
Don't buy it. Double space inserts a period in Android and iOS autocorrect. There was a large bit of time for doublespace to die off between the intro of the word processor, the death of the typewriter, and the intro of the smartphone.
Not line spacing, two spaces after punctuation marks. The blank space on a typewriter was about half the width of the characters, so you would have to push the space bar twice to make the spacing between sentences look correct. Software has made this unnecessary, but people that learned on typewriters tend to still do it that way.
That's not why. Using more pressure makes it easier to move quickly without being floaty. eg I was taught to jam the hell out of my saxophone keys whenever I play. Part of that is that extra pressure can stop micro leaks, but it's mostly because it makes your technique less sloppy.
PCs use unprintable characters to represent carriage return and line feed. On Windows, BOTH these characters must be used in the proper sequence to represent a new line, just like on a typewriter. IIRC Linux just uses line feed and Mac just uses carriage return.
jrhoffa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OS X is *nix-like so it uses LF. Older Mac OSes used CR.
I think that they still have use. They "shift" what the key does. For example it "shifts" from small letters to capital letters. Or from a 7 to an ampersand. So you could still make a case for it being a shift key.
That and basically everything else about email. It's based on the Post Office Protocol, and a lot of terminology is from classic ways of sending and receiving mail.
Thatโs a double one because when the RFC was written the meaning was a backronym from the abbreviation cc, meaning multiple copies not necessarily carbon copies, in the same way that you might use pp to mean pages.
OzNTM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was there ever an actual blind carbon copy? Or is that just an email term?
Wikipedia said they would actually pull the ribbon away from the typewritter when typing the name of the second, unknown recipient. It would not leave ink on the top copy, but the impression would be made on ones touched by the carbon paper.
And the โtubeโ part of YouTube referring to a television cathode ray tube. I just realized... people used to call TV the โboob tubeโ which sounds like YouTube. Of course the term โboobโ here was not a breast, but a buffoonish person. So you can see a bunch of โboobsโ on YouTube. Think Keemstar.
I've never heard it used in a video game context. Does it have roughly the same definition as the sports use? That is, "revealing your ultimate strategy through the actions leading up to it"?
Chieron ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:41:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely. If a boss flashes before a certain attack, he's "telegraphing" that attack.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes if a boss has a slow windup to a powerful attack such as loud sound for a second before firing a huge laser beam. People when discussing how to defeat said boss would say to get behind cover when the boss starts to telegraph his attack by making that sound. So basically yeah.
Yes - and definitely apparent in, say, MOBAs like League or DotA if youโre familiar with. Player characters can have windup animations or need to position in a certain way to pull off moves that can make obvious what their next step is, e.g. Fiddlesticks is sighted standing in the wraithraptor camp two feet from your team with his team nearby, and very probably is going to come ulting over the wall.
This is one that I think gets better the farther we move from the technology. I mean, if they could see it coming by way of telegraph instead of fax or email, then that pass was SUPER slow.
Telegraphing a pass doesn't mean it was slow. It means that the defender knew the pass was coming because the passer inadvertently "tipped him off" which allowed him to anticipate the pass. In other words, there was a message from the passer (e.g. body language or a predictive tendency) that the defender noticed.
While it hasn't completely lost its relevance, the word "computer" technically refers to any device that aids in calculations. An abacus, for example, can be considered a type of computer. Originally, computers were created as a way to reduce time spent doing large amounts of number-crunching. (In fact, people whose job was to do tedious number crunching were called computers.) Nowadays, computers do way more than just computations.
EDIT: Clarification- Yes. I am aware that modern computers are still at their core computational devices. However, most people think of computers as communication devices, gaming devices, vectors for the Internet, ect. first before they think of them as, well, computers. Of course all of those things exist thanks to number crunching.
EDIT: Grammar and word choice. Removed redundancies.
mop-92 ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 16:32:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
at a basic level they are still just doing binary calculations
Try to think of the most complex computer program. Now imagine the mass of math in this mess. And now imagine only beeing capable of adding, substracting and maybe multiply. That's how much the ALU in the CPU in your computer can do. If you get deep into the matter you really start to understand how far computers have come. Jeeze I had to learn assembler in highschool, it scared me away from computer sience. lol
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:07:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's even worse than that. Those ALUs, made up of adders and subtractors, are made up of CMOS. All of the logic in a computer is made up of these guys organized in a novel fashion to enable all of it. Just small electric switches, nanometers small, turning on and off.
This confused me a little cause that's the main characters job title in Hidden Figures and they have an actual computer. But yeah both were right at one point.
Well yeah, because technology computers were still a new thing the time in Hidden Figures people had to figure out, so number crunching was still done by hand. Love that movie!
When you had really complex maths to do, you'd hire a chief computer to split you maths up into smaller chunks to hand out to a room of computers, and later combine it.
[deleted] ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 16:48:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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0x564A00 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:56:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interpretting conditional jumps, pops, moves, io instructions and so on as only calculating formulas, which is quite a stretch, although an argument could be made for that.
Except they don't really compute formulas. If you are going to be picky at the base level they aren't calculating anything. At most, you can say conditional statements are being evaluated.
Ah, the classic response of the "so-desperate-to-be-correct-that-they-lose-sight-of-the-point" Redditor.
Sometimes, you don't need to go out of your way to be technically correct. You, me, and /u/TheRationalDove all know that, at their most basic level, computers are just doing vast amounts of calculations. But that doesn't mean /u/TheRationalDove was incorrect when they said computers "do more than just computations".
In the past, computers were mostly used only to do calculations. Had a big problem that needed working out while you do something else? Have the computer whirr and click for a while until it punches out a result.
Nowadays, they're used for so much more. Entertainment, design, education... you name it. Computers are at the core of modern society. Yes, these functions are, at their core, are all controlled by mathematical computations. No one's arguing that. But you're so concerned with being right on an internet forum that you jump the gun and take everything literally. Might be a sign of lacking social skills.
ThePaSch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:18:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Nope."
Ah, the classic response of the "so-desperate-to-be-correct-that-they-lose-sight-of-the-point" Redditor.
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But you're so concerned with being right on an internet forum that you jump the gun and take everything literally. Might be a sign of lacking social skills.
Ah, the classic response of the "so-full-of-themselves-that-they-have-to-act-like-they're-above-everyone" redditor.
Adding a completely pointless ad hominem to an already completely pointless comment (because a non-inflammatory comment pointing this out already existed at that time) in order to make some kind of misguided point or seem like you're above it all. Yeah! Look at those sheeple, only caring about being right on the internet! Naturally, I would never fall to such kinds of banality - no, since I only care about looking smart on the internet!
You're so concerned with acting superior on an internet forum that you kick someone who's already down just in order to get a shitty sermon over internet behaviors in. Might be a sign of lacking self-confidence.
In fact, people whose job was to do tedious number crunching were called computers.
I remember some 1930's science fiction (the Lensmen series) where the bad guy attempted to seize control of the computers on the heroes' spaceship - and by that, meant that they were using a hypnosis ray to control the minds of the people who were doing the calculations to steer the ship.
The word "computer" itself is actually an example of this. It used to refer to a human job (running numbers through calculations for things like weapon firing tables). Since this is one of the first jobs electronic computers were used to perform, they inherited the name.
Computers still perform millions of calculations a second. You may not use the calculator function, but there are serious algorithms on your CPU and GPU
"Computer" has been more of a job description throughout the majority of the history of the word. A computer is someone who calculates, and well into the 1900s this usually meant a girl with a spreadsheet doing the work of Excel
AS A MEDIEVALIST I FEEL LIKE IโVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS QUESTION FOR YEARS! OMG I AM SO EXCITED. WE STILL USE MANY TERMS AND PHRASES FROM MEDIEVAL FALCONRY. EVERYONE KNOWS THE TERMS BUT NOT THE 800-900 year old origins in falconry terminology. Sorry for yelling; I am just very excited. Yes I am a total dork.
Some of the terms and phrases we use now that are from falconry are listed below. I think everyone will know the modern meaning. The cool part is discovering that it comes from medieval falconry (and honestly Iโve always been amazed by just how many of these terms have survived into modern English โ Shakespeare used a lot of these terms, and I have no doubt that has something to do with it). I wonโt list all of the original meanings here but I will link to some great pages that list terms and phrases that are still in use.
Iโll link to a few websites that discuss medieval falconry after this list:
โFed-upโ (one gets better results with a hungry raptor not a full one)
โwrapped around my fingerโ (his, her, your finger etc) (falconers held their falcons in check by wrapping their leather leg straps around their finger โ see also โunder my thumbโ)
โwith bated breathโ
hoodwinked
codger (โcodgerโ was a term for aging birds that were kept in their cages/eyries and socialized younger birds โ the birdโs an old cager (codger)โ
to check (as in โto hold in checkโ)
to wind up (Technique used to encircle a training hawk and hold it in place by winding a leather strap around the legs)
to weather
bare-faced
lure
pounce
rouse
to turn tail
haggard
preen
having someone or something โunder thumbโ or โunder my thumbโ (the falcon was controlled by a leather strap that the falconer pressed down with his thumb until release)
โhaving bells onโ (bells were put on the falcon to keep track of its location). We use this phrase in expressions like โIโll be there with bells on.โ
Skeuomorphos don't have to be references to dead or historical items, just to physical items to help make digital interfaces more welcoming. Many qualify for this thread, but not all.
RobAlter ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:55:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freelance - which means a mercenary/solider who uses a lance to kill. A free lance is available to kill for you. A lance is a pole weapon or spear. So if you are a freelance you are a solider who is not currently with any army and is available for hire.
zerbey ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:15:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perfectly valid if she has a gas oven. I still say it too and I've not owned a gas oven in my entire adult life. My Mum does, and I learned to cook on it. Some habits are impossible to break :)
I just noticed it a few weeks ago and asked her about it. She had a gas oven when she was younger and never got out of the habit when she got a new oven. It's little pieces of history like that, that I want to know about. :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I lived in Montana I cooked on a wood burning stove. It's not bad once you get the hang of it.
Fair enough. It just strikes me as kind of weird; I mostly had gas stoves growing up, and never really thought of "lighting" them so much as turning them on. Unless, of course, the starter was bad and I had to get the fireplace matches out.
I also just realized that the only times I've said "Light the stove" was when I had to use a lighter for a camp stove whenever I'm cooking at camp.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The oven that used to be in this house (was my family house) was gas and the pilot light had to be lit with a match. I used to love it when my mom would open the oven on cold mornings to warm up the kitchen. The house still has gas but only for the range top. The oven is one of those convention ovens. I hate it.
I don't know about ovens anymore, but I know that at the highschool I took cooking classes in the stove tops are gas (granted not lit by a lighter)
TitanJS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant for barbeques though.
MgFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We also "turn off" the lights, even though we're not turning anything. I know there were switches that turned once, but I'm going to guess the term was in use when most home lighting was done with oil lamps and you "turned up" the wick (actually raising the wick) to make it brighter and "turned it down" to make it dimmer. Gas lighting would have had turning valves to do the same thing.
Haywire... or Hay wire. "Things are all haywire, The Doctor said, while beating on the Tardis." Meant to mean screwed up. Originally hay wire, or bailing wire, was used often to put things back together, like your tractor, or your muffler. Like Duct Tape now, hay wire, is a term for "wow that things held together with a lot of hay wire, must be not in the greatest of shape."
Also, Block Buster, was a bomb that was capable of blowing up an entire city block. Then it was a Hollywood Movie that was popular.... then a video rental store that was popular... then not popular... and now it means, I guess a big Hollywood Movie again.
Personally I like the original meaning the best.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:19:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Hammand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in the National Guard and activated to big army, I got in an argument with a civilian contractor who insisted that I needed a new bank account despite mine having worked with the payroll system that big army shares with the guard. Eventually she rolled her eyes and said "you're not with the guard right now, and when in Rome..." I asked her if she knew the original meaning of decimation and it's use in the Roman army.
When I first heard about this it was a rapper I listened to who was releasing a mix tape and everyone was super excited. I thought he was making a compilation of songs he likes and was wondering what the hype was about.
mrmdc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:48:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How so?
The word tape is irrelevant, but the mix part is still perfectly acceptable.
romafa ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 16:36:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-gate. I'm sure a majority of people don't even know where it originated. It just means scandal to them.
TitanJS ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:13:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean wasn't it originally related to the Watergate scandal.
I hate this. Come up with something original for your scandal name, please. It's even worse than 'naming' a terrorist attack after the date it happened on.
This is funny as hell, but it's more commonly remembered as the plebgate scandal.
R961ROP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs a conspiracy intended to flood the people with references to watergate so that political scandals hold less weight. The politicians can get away with more and the people care less because the next '-gate' is happening the very next day. People are calling it Watergategate.
(Sort of a plug but I'm not affiliated with them in any way so I'm more just pointing it out)
MHG73 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:56:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Misnomers are not always created in this way. For example, Greenland is very icy and Iceland is very green, because the people who named them wanted people to go to Greenland and not Iceland. The names were never accurate.
A rancher in the early days of cattle drives by the name of Maverick refused to brand his cattle so he could claim any unbranded cattle as his. Any cattle not belonging to a specific herd started being called mavericks. Eventually the term jumped to people who refused to be associated with a group.
deuceice ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:53:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SOOOOO... How long until this is some 30 page Buzzed thingy on Facebook?
(in music) a MIXED TAPE used to be a cassette tape that a musician would use to showcase their work in hopes of getting signed to a label.
the term still lingers today
MrCrash ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:26:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still make mix tapes for girls I'm dating.
now it becomes like a fun little mission. they have this object that contains data they want, and they have to go hunt out a place where they can retrieve that data.
In the 80s, I always referred to a mix tape as a cassette you would make (often for a friend or a girlfriend) by recording a mix of different songs from different album and bands. It used to take over an hour to make.
The tape a musician would make of their band was simply called a demo.
A mixtape has been a bunch of music you copied from different sources for at least as long as compact cassettes existed. You're talking about a demo tape. Maybe in hip-hop there is some degree of ambiguity here.
No. That's entirely wrong. A mixtape is a tape featuring multiple, or a mix of artists. For some godforsaken reason it's been repurposed to refer to what you described, which is a demo tape.
Interesting enough, we are both correct depending on where you are from and age range. My mind was more angled towards the use of the word TAPE, as in a cassette. Music artist in 2017 do not use cassettes anymore to put out music.
Music artist in 2017 do not use cassettes anymore to put out music.
The cassette tapes I just bought from two localish indie bands, one of whom is blowing up and getting attention everywhere from celebrities to NP-fucking-R, Charly Bliss, would disagree.
I remember the time and anticipation that went into making a mixed cassette tape in the 80's.
Sitting there, with your fingers on the record button (wasn't it record and play buttons at once?) so you could hit it the second the song you wanted came on the radio. Sometimes you thought it was the song you wanted and pushed record. But nooooo, then you fucked up, and had to rewind the damn thing to the end of your last song you had, to erase and record the song you wanted.
Very tedious work. It meant a lot to give someone a tape like that. I'd also peel the white sticker off the paper, where I had neatly printed each song, in order, that was on the A and B side of the cassette, and carefully place it on the cassette.
khendron ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:10:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now we have to sit there while they swipe through each picture on their phone. At least with a slide show you could space out.
But when someone's sitting there beside you swiping through all those vacation pictures on their phone, you have to look and seem interested. If not, somehow they'll make a post about #rudepeople on FB who don't like looking at your 200+ pictures.
I actually have started printing out all the pictures I take and put them in photo albums. It's such a different experience looking at pictures that way. I love laying in bed and flipping through all the old pictures of family. Especially the super old pictures that have survived and handed down to me. You can't get that feeling from swiping through the pics on a phone or computer.
I prefer printed photos, too. Itโs nice to sit back and relax while flipping through pages of memories. I hate swiping through stuff on other peopleโs phones. I donโt want to hold your phone!
DubEnder ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:43:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of a niche one but, some physicians still request radiologists to do a "wet read". Referring back to when there was still film that needed to develop in a Radiology department. Essentially the requesting physician is asking for a STAT read, but the old timers still call it a wet read from time to time.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Car-face ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mind if I ask - where does STAT come from? I hear it on medical shows all the time ("I need 10cc's of xenoephonephodorclahydrazine, Stat!")
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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lfantine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nil per os, the motto of anorexic society.
Car-face ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife still uses the phrase "I'll just MapQuest it" even though she's using Google Maps on her phone. I stopped correcting her a couple of years ago.
(I'm aware MapQuest is still used, I just don't know anyone that has in at least 10 years)
Awit1992 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:18:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but an image. The save icon is still a floppy disc. How many middle schoolers just think it's an obscure image that means "save?"
xcarex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true of a lot of icons! Like, the camera and phone apps have icons with outdated tech.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:17:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To "debug" your software goes back to when computers had vacuum tube transistors. These got quite warm when operating, which attracted bugs. You would literally have to sweep out the dead bugs every once in a while.
Tennis scoring with "love". The score 40 - 0 (said "40 love") is love because a score of zero, or a "goose egg" in French is "eouf" pronounced <<uff>> which over time took on the less harsh, more pleasant sounding "love"
Similar to pilots yelling "mayday". Story goes it was because in French, "help me!" is "m'aide", pronounced "may dee" and between radio static and a panicked pilot, over time i guess it became mayday.
Neighbors met us at a restaurant for dinner. Started to rain just as we arrived. I ran back to close the sunroof -- had to turn ignition switch (on my gas-powered car) to on position to do so.
Came out to a dead battery. Asked neighbors if they could give me a jump start. However, they had a Prius, which as far as I could tell did not have any 12 volt connectors to jump me.
Or gas pedals, but I will feel a little weird calling my upcoming EV's pedal the accelerator. I'll probably still say "turn up the volume" as well, despite the fact it's all touchscreen.
Here in the UK most of us call it the acceleration pedal anyway, no one I know calls it the "gas"
KZedUK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of driving instructors do, but that's mainly because it's easier to shout when the twit you're teaching has stopped in the middle of a roundabout.
My EV has a physical key. It's ironic because it was probably more expensive to create than a push button start.
Olly0206 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More and more cars now days are moving away from actual keys that you'd insert into an ignition to "turn" on. Even many that you do don't actually turn an ignition. Many are just for show. It'll still be a long time before "turn" becomes an outdated use of the word when starting a car but it's already moving that way.
On a similar note, there are more more cars that are moving to a belt driven transmission so the car doesn't actually "shift gears" anymore. Some manufacturers (I know Chrysler did this) even fake shift points because people were so unnerved by the fact that their car didn't shift. They thought something was broken.
They have electric components, but the drive is not electric. That being said, most of the engines in the world are electric. Fuel engines are practically only used in transport, most other machines use electric or hydraulic.
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was taught that it was a motor if the energy was produced elsewhere and it was an engine if the energy was produced inside. A jet engine, a gasoline engine, and a diesel engine are internal combustion engines, while rocket, electric and hydraulic motors release energy that was generated outside the confines of the device.
I'm not native English speaker, so my terminology might bexpect off.
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a problem! Your point was correct. Fueled systems are pretty much just used for transport and only a few have no electrical systems. A diesel can be run without any wiring, but no modern ones do. Same with steam.
hysteria. "hyster" means uterus, and it was thought women were going crazy because something was wrong with the uterus. The recommended treatment was sex. In medieval times, the this meant they would marry someone off if they were "hysteric"
In the 19th century, doctors would masturbate women. This is actually why vibrators were first invented, because doctors could increase their patient load without wearing out their hands. The thought was that by stimulating the clitoris, they could relieve whatever was wrong with the uterus. The women would shake after a while, and that was a sign that they were cured. Doctors at the time did not consider this a sexual act, and they also believed that women did not orgasm.
That is completely untrue. Back when the word appeared, it specifically referred to psychological problems of women, and had nothing to do with the modern definition. In the medieval times, sex was certainly not seen as a cure for hysteria, although the companionship of marriage is indeed a cure for depression in both genders.
In the 19th century, hysteria changed definition to signify sexual dysfunctions (such as the inability to orgasm). Although there are anecdotes of doctors inducing orgasms to their patients, it was first certainly not standard or morally approved practice, and secondly those doctors knew what they were doing.
I don't think there has ever been a period in the history of mankind where people thought women unable to experience an orgasm. You can find countless literature about sexuality throughout the ages, including the Victorian era.
They made a movie all about this. It was called "Hysteria" for some reason I never really understood. Until now. I saw Maggie Gyllenhaal was in it and bailed. It's a 6.7 on IMDB.
Playing your trump card suddenly has a whole different meaning. Could be good if youโre playing Cards Against Humanity - otherwise, maybe not so much.
Volume: It was originally a word to mean to set the volume of your room to best replicate the original sounds. The thought being you need more sound to fill out a larger room.
supermats ยท 308 points ยท Posted at 17:39:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their point may be more so referring to the fact that volume as a term to describe loudness is not as technical of terminology as the word amplitude. That's just my take; I'm not disagreeing with your point or arguing the etymological aspects.
That doesn't reneg what he said though. The fact that volume was used to describe how much sound it would take to fill up the room is preciesly the thing he is saying.
Yawehg ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:25:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...this seems like a lie but I really don't want it to be.
What is the actual volume of a car or SUV? and what is the equivalent to 1 - 10 scale on a radio/stereo volume? Once these questions are answered I will be able to approach the a-holes who blast their car stereos in my apt's parking lot at midnight.
A lot of audio terminology is left over from the early days. A patch bay in a studio is named after the OG physical patches the operator would make to connect phone calls way back when.
Today you also learn that the above guys doesn't know what he's talking about. The term bug was used well before computers and can be dated back to at least Thomas Edison in the 1800's. If you even just stop and look at the note from Grace Hopper that is often cited as the origin of that meaning of 'bug' you can tell that's not how it started since Grace's note says this is the first time it was an actual bug, meaning that all previous bugs were just glitches or other problems and not insects.
DrNO811 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:30:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's not nearly as much fun. I had actually googled this after reading the OP comment, and it said the phrase came from someone at Harvard who had found a moth in the computer causing problems back in the early days of computers, and that they coined the term "debugging."
According to this short Wired article the Navy has been promoting the idea that the term originated with Grace Hopper and the moth so they're at least partly to blame for the spread of misinformation.
Grace was far more important than just coining the bug and if they really want to use her to promote the navy they should use the clip of her explaining how long a nanosecond is. That clip will hopefully also restore some of the fun you lost by my killjoy fact checking.
"Videotape" might be less common, but "taping" something is very common, even though it has nothing to do with tape anymore.
OUTFOXEM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I still use "tape" in reference to recording a video with my phone and cringe at myself every time I say it. I've occasionally said "film" as well.
I have a distinct memory of being little (3 or 4 maybe?) and having trouble opening a bottle. I asked an adult which way I had to turn the lid to open it and they said "righty tighty, lefty loosey."
I looked down at the lid for a moment, then back up to them. "Does that mean turn the top side of the lid to the left or the bottom side?"
"Well that's for you to figure out!"
Thanks for the help, dickhead.
pcy623 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this example, the direction of travel at the end of the full rotation is left. But this would tighten the cap, rendering "righty tighty, lefty loosey" useless without additional information (i.e. top or bottom of the lid, when looking at it from a top view as shown).
SethQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, that's what I get for believing everything I read. I used to have the same problem and that's what someone taught me. I never questioned it. And it always worked for me, but I always started from the top.
I wonder if I mis-remembered what they taught. Either way, good catch.
Ancguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:37:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of mine relates this to politics as well- going to the political right tightens shit down, going left loosens stuff back up again.
That's not a particularly good analogy, though. The right wing is looser on certain things (e.g. regulations on financial institutions) and the left is tighter on them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think of it as what ever side is facing you/the tool. So if you're holding the tool in your hand, looking down (or up) on something, turning it right will tighten and left to loosen.
Mine doesn't. My last few places of employment didn't.
I'm not trying to say it doesn't exist.
Tearakan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:50:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wrist watches are becoming man jewelry so I think this one might stay around.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:26:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean becoming?
Tearakan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:49:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point lol
nicmos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the point is that the less proficient people get at reading analog clocks, the less useful they will be, up to the point where they really do not have any function. at that point their only purpose will be decorative. hence jewelry.
believe me, there's still a lot of people (including myself) who use analog watches and use them for their intended purpose. so in that sense they are decidedly not jewelry.
I don't think smart watches are considered quite as elegant or classy as an old school mechanical watch, though. But the day we get mechanical smart watches that could go out the window.
rn10950 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Define good? If we're talking about a luxury watch, I'd say having your own in-house automatic movement is the bar. For mass-market, that means them, Omega, and Breitling. The rest is getting into boutique manufacturers.
When it comes down to it, these things are jewelry that happen to tell time, with an intricate amount of specialized detail going on inside the thing. That's the reason they're expensive.
Rolex isn't a fashion house that buys their movements from ETA. They design and make their own. Also the Submariner is iconic, how many companies have icons like that JLC Reverso etc
Yup, a digital display is fine for an alarm clock or on the stove or your VCR but my kitchen clock is analog and checking websites like Ikea show a distinct lack of digital clocks.
At first I wanted to disagree as the meaning still works, but then I realized you're right (and I'm getting old), that analog face clocks are getting fewer. However most people still wear wrist watches that aren't digital, at least in my experience, making it fairly easy to understand still
My mom made fun of me when I got an Infiniti. Not only did it have an analog clock, but it only had lines and no numbers and I have a lot of trouble with those.
Those cars have lots of features which are just for show. A GT3 has cool center-lock wheels but I don't think they expect any owner to ever touch them.
Not in my world. Everywhere I go I see new analog clocks all the time. Most Trader Joe's use them and at work every clock on the walls are analog.
You know why? Because they are easier to see from a distance, use less power and they hold up better. Plus, if the power goes out most aren't affected because they run off of batteries.
I was around when "digital" clocks became a thing 35 years ago and people made the same "dying out soon" claim.
Analog clocks are also much better for "check time" than digital clocks. It takes way longer to glance at a digital clock that reads 4:23 and know you have 22 minutes til your next thing vs. An analog and seeing the spaces and realizing you have plenty of time to jerk off before you leave.
I think watch wearing is inversely related to smart phone addiction. If you're constantly on your phone you don't need it. But if you only pull out your phone when it rings/you get a notification then a watch serves a very real purpose. I have worn a watch everyday for the last 10 years. But I also only pull out my phone if i need it, never to check social media or what ever.
Even the people I know that are watch lovers have been switching to "smart watches" and fitbits. My father and fiance were the last ones I knew who still had a wrist watches (which were digital) and they both recently changed over to fitbits.
Mechanical watches will not be replaced by digital ones for a very long time yet. Mechanical watches are a status symbol and a fashion statement. The smart watch market doesn't compete with them.
digisax ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:09:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mechanical watches are a status symbol and a fashion statement
They're also an interesting piece of engineering, which is why I like and wear one.
Agreed. They will always be there. But in the sense that Vinyl is still around. It's becoming "niche."
asc6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear this said often and I'm not quite sure if I agree. Just as an iPhone can be a status symbol, an Apple Watch can be too. Especially when it's noticeable that it's cellular and/or ceramic. You know they paid a pretty penny for it. I couldn't tell you the price of any mechanical watch. But maybe that's just because I'm more inclined.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even think cost is the most important factor. While I am sure it is one, I think its just a sign of the finer things in life. You can get some really nice well made mechanicals for a few hundred dollars that are just as refined as the big boys. Such as orient. I think mechanical watches are about feel, soul and personality. Sort of like fountain pens.
joegekko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
an Apple Watch can be too.
Everyone I work with that bought an Apple watch has stopped wearing them. YMMV, but I don't think the smartwatch, as a gadget, has staying power.
VAPossum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk if you could call someone who wears a digital watch a watch lover. That's like saying someone is a foodie because they eat at burger king. No offence intended. Just my opinion.
We haven't reached the tipping point yet AFAIK, but I expect that somewhere within my lifetime, "telling the time on an analog clock" will stop being a skill taught in elementary school. It has already gone from "absolutely necessary" to "handy just in case".
Actually I've gone the opposite direction, I finally retired my old Pebble where I mostly used the digital watch faces for a new Asus Zenwatch 3 and all the really cool watch faces are analog style. It takes me an extra half second to figure out what time it is because I haven't done it in so long, that's a little scary.
Yeah I was going to disagree as well then realized the only analog clock in my house is an old coo-coo clock I have for no other reason then it being cool that it is old... and even then I have only had it up for about a year and before that probably didn't really have an analog clock for a decade maybe... wow...
I haven't worn a watch in years, over a decade. And I get annoyed when I see an analog clock now. Sigh.
VAPossum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At first I wanted to disagree as the meaning still works, but then I realized you're right (and I'm getting old), that analog face clocks are getting fewer.
They're still very present, though, especially in collectible watches and public clocks (public buildings, schools, stores, etc.), partly because they're almost always more aesthetically pleasing. "Clockwise" might fade because fewer people will be able to instinctively know what that is (at least without stopping and thinking), but analog clocks aren't going away just yet, and probably won't as long as people value their form over ease of function.
I knew someone that didn't know how to read is Rolex watch. It was a really sad moment for everyone involved.
ttsb1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think ur right to disagree, because I think its one of those terms that is going to stick around even tho clocks are becoming digital. Simply because its so heavily used. I dont think ive ever used another word to describe rotational direction.
It'll always be relevant in polar graphing. And anyway, most "classier" appearing watches are analog. And then there's stuff like tightening screws and wrenching on things.
arkhound ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about that. I still see it in constant use.
Just last night I was raiding in WoW (a younger raid based on the voices in discord) and we were using clockwise and counterclockwise to determine pathways.
Analogue clocks will probably stay around, I think. I mean, there's really no reason for them to exist now, but they do. They're more aesthetically pleasing than digital clocks are.
Nope. The analog wall clock is much cheaper to make than a digital one. As long as that remains true, you will see analog clocks on most walls of this world.
neoslith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone in the healthcare field, analog watches are best.
When do you live? There's several face clocks around in my office and if I click on the time in the corner of my PC it shows me a picture of a face clock. The majority of nice watches still use a face and hands.
analogue clocks are like books, sure the digital version is technically better but people prefer the character and style of the original, I don't think they will die out.
Things like this are so ingrained in the common culture that even if they do lose context for a lot of newer generations, I don't they'll be done for any time soon
Clockwise to be changed to mean "ascending numbers"
roh8880 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โFar out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-two million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.โ
not necessarily. Although not as practical as digital clocks, analog clocks are preffered for their look.
steve233 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Clockwise' and 'counterclockwise' are still used in mathematics to talk about direction of rotation. I think they have a good chance of sticking around even if analog clocks disappear.
My boss told me to place something down facing 6 o' clock. He looked at me like I was an idiot because I had to motion a clock in the air to figure out what direction he meant. I'm not a damn fighter pilot! No one talks like that. I haven't had to stare at an analog clock since grade school.
Maybe in the 80s there was a half-decent reason to believe that circular clock faces would eventually become irrelevant, what with the popularity of digital clocks and wrist watches. But they have been proven relevant, as fashion and as practical representations of the passing of time. Ultimately they are a very natural, low level abstraction that represents the rotation of the earth around its own axis.
Yeah man. It wasnโt a good example. I get it. I had about 60 messages saying how stupid I am. I should delete it, but maybe Iโm a glutton for punishment
shred1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "husband" originally meant a man whose profession was in husbandry. They were often considered ideal partners for a woman to be with, which is why women wanted not just a partner, but a "husband" to marry.
True! And the occupation of husbandry involves cultivating crops, so basically a farmer, which goes in hand with tiller of the soil. Husbands were considered ideal because they had land, a house, food, and income. Basically all the necessities.
That's amazing! I really, really enjoy the Australia/NZ/SA habit of giving nouns an "ee" suffixed nickname (bbq->barbie, sunglasses->sunnies, university->uni, etc.).
Zeruvi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:27:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 20 years when floppy disks are actually forgotten (not just joked about) I wonder if that'll hold up, if kids will wonder where the save symbol came from
Burnie Burns from Rooster Teeth said on their podcast that he was playing the Lego Movie videogame with his son (who I think was 8ish at the time), and there was a big floppy disk you had to move. His son said, "go grab that giant save button".
I was going to remark that in 20 years maybe they will move on to something more modern like a CD for saving but then I realized they're more associated to music CDs.
Then it dawned on me that music CDs are going the way of the dodo also. I'm getting old.
Also, "way of the dodo". Nobody knows what a dodo was anymore either.
Emtreidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every EMT I know does. Including me. Not just for stopping at accident scenes, but I gotta protect my manicure when I check my engine fluids or add wiper fluid.
I live in the desert and I once saw a lady driving in the summer while wearing oven mitts. Kinda genius, really..
Hammand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:36:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep a pair of leather work gloves in the glove box and they're super handy. I also routinely use driving gloves. In the winter when the steering wheel is frigid and sometimes in the summer when the steering wheel is too hot.
This is normal behavior where I live. You seem like the odd one out.
I wear gloves in my car in the winter cuz my hands freeze on the steering wheel. :โ) But I keep them in my purse so theyโre not icy cold when I get in the car. (Also letโs face it, Iโd be too lazy to do anything with them but toss them in the front seat.)
Listening to books on tape. Even though the first one I listened to was actually on CD, and now they are digital. I just can't say "audiobooks" naturally yet.
Hearing that phrase makes me think of the read-aloud picture books on tape we'd get to use early in elementary school. When you hear the ~bing~, turn the page.
Interesting observation. I store my sheets in the linen closet.
My grandmother would iron her sheets (I think she called them sheets) after the dried outside on the line. I decided to iron mine, just to see what ironed sheets would feel like. Not nice enough to ever do that again.
I missed this reply. There are so many awesome things about this. Youโve raised a good kid if she;s helping a neighbor with laundry like that. Especially ironing her sheets.i would probably do it again but king size sheets were just too much.
Same in audio... Also we โcut a track,โ despite not recording to vinyl in decades
minttyy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:09:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite thing to do is ask young kids if they know why we say "roll up the window". Now that all cars mostly have automatic windows they don't know about the crank.
Not a common term really, but a movie quote from Star Wars:
Admiral Motti: Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes ...
It was weird watching the plot of Rogue One falling over backwards to create a scenario in which the Empire keep all its data on one planet on physical media that could be stolen just to make this line still relevant.
mycelo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:56:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Snapshot it's a hunting term, meaning to shoot something very quickly, like a reflex.
Marine (and aeronotical) vessels moving at an amount of "knots".
In the days of sailing ships, the shipmates would throw out a long rope at the stern of the ship, with a hydrobrake at the end of it. This prevented the rope from following along with the ship, so that the ship's movement would cause it to unwind. Now, on this rope, there were knots tied with a set distance between them. Someone would turn an hourglass, and count the number of knots passing through the fingers of the person holding the rope during a set amount of time.
The distance between each knot was 8 fathoms, and the time counted was 30 seconds.
The term โShit-facedโ and its historical Scottish origin to reference a state of drunkenness.
In medieval UK there was no indoor plumbing yet. So naturally people would do their business in chamber pots. When the chamber pot was full one would simply empty it out of their window into the street where (hopefully) the rain would eventually carry it away. There were only certain hours of the day in which it was legal to dump ones chamber pot. Usually between the hours of 10pm and 7 am the next morning. Coincidentally bars/pubs in many cities closed at 10pm. So of course many people made it a game to hit the drunken patrons of the bars with the contents of their chamber pot as they were making their ways home. It was courteous when dumping ones chamber pot to call out the phrase โGardyloo!โ (Which is taken from a French phrase meaning โmind the waterโ) to warn passers-by. Naturally the most drunk of the patrons upon hearing someone shouting from above them would look up to see where the noise is coming from. Only to be met with a face full of shit. They would get home and their wives would scold them for coming home shitfaced again.
Hence the term โshitfacedโ
MrCrash ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:30:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: 1/3 of the comments are repeats because no one bothers to read any of the thread before posting the same shit about floppy disks, telephones, and car windows.
r0baj0b ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today, this refers to an unwanted problem with a computer program.
Back in the day, computers were HUGE. They used vacuum tubes, and gave off a lot of heat and light. This was perfect for bugs like moths. They would be attracted to the heat coming from the machine.
The first computer bug was a moth flying into the computer, and creating a circuit when it touched two vacuum tubes at once. This caused an unexpected error in the program. After digging through the code, Dr. Grace Hooper went through the machine inch by inch until she found the bug that caused all of the problems.
Is it not possible that the majority of those resurgent record sales are the same people who were buying them before, resulting in a younger generation that still wouldn't know?
Not to mention, records and record players are being produced with more durability and fidelity, so the idea of a "broken record" might not be intuitive even to someone who is new to vinyls as part of this wave.
dro13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk about that. It seems like the majority of people buying records these days are on the younger side. The recent surge seems to be a hipster-vintage type of trend. If it's someone that's 55+ they've either caught up to digital or still purchase CDs. But I could be wrong.
For real, I've seen records in relatively recent movies and I think most people would know about it at least as an example or archaic technology even if they've never seen or used one. I think record player is perhaps the most popular representation of obsolete there is.
I heard record sales jumped again but I honestly don't know anyone who has a single record. I don't know why you would when you can just use Spotify or iTunes.
Because they're a physical thing. You can collect them.
A friend of mine has been collecting the different pressings of The Living End albums. Done in different colour vinyl and such, so he's got like three or four of some albums because in addition to the regular black there's white or patterned or transparent red or what have you.
But mostly the jump is because hipsters.
Jargen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. My 4yo heard a cd โskipโ for the first time the other day. He asked what was wrong with it and I said that itโs just skipping. He had no idea what I was talking about.
Angel: It used to mean messenger or courier. Somebody that was hired to deliver something to somebody else. That's why the Bible phrases it as "an angel of The Lord."
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:41:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cop (as in police officers)
From what I understand, police in Britain years ago used to have copper buttons on their jackets. They were called coppers, or cops for short. Might be an old wives tale but it kinda makes sense
Redkirth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:45:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true.
Also they are called "Bobbies" after Robert Peel who remformed the police department into what it is now. The USA based it's entire policing policy on Peelian Reform.
It was more feasible though when there was an actual hook that a phone went on. There's no hooks on cell phones. Also, even most landline phones don't have a hook either.
Being a "T-Totaler", which means to give up drinking. Most people think it means drinking tea instead of alcohol, but actually means joining the Temperance movement.
"Down to brass tacks", which means to completely refinish furniture (had to explain that to someone once).
Calling a tv remote a "clicker', even though they don't actually click any more.
Pretty much everyone owns handheld computing devices we carry around with us everywhere. We choose to refer to these devices, which are capable of performing a million different functions, as telephones, even though vocal communication likely is not the primary, secondary, or even tertiary purpose of these devices for the majority of people.
The phrase "would you like some cheese with that whine" is commonly thought to be a pun for cheese and wine/whine. In fact the phrase was coined by the Wild West photographer Tom McVale. Photographs at that time cost on average of one weeks pay and most customers only had enough funds for one flash. He would give cranky children cheese before a photo in order to stop their crying. Hence why we say cheese before pictures.
Cut and paste โ Back before computers, when you took your typing to the secretarial pool (I did this), you would literally cut out relevant passages from related documents and paste them to a sheet of paper. You them took this to the secretaries to type up the new document.
Texting is kind of an anachronism already. You do a lot more than just send text messages.
some-dev ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 15:30:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean? Texting is still very much texting isn't it? I mean you can send pictures/videos too, but I would still refer to standard text-only messages as "texting".
People do say "text me that picture" though, to mean send by sms/mms.
pilvy ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:39:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, who the fuck uses MMS?
Why spend (what used to be 50p) per fucking picture when you could just whatsapp it for free.
Jettrode ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 16:51:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone I know in the US has unlimited sms/mms included in their cell plan.
pilvy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not US, hence the 50p (62cents eqv) per picture.
Jettrode ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand. I was just pointing out why people in the US still uses mms as apposed to whatsapp or some other app.
pilvy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My bad, it was rarely used here by people I knew as it was so relatively expensive just for single and at the time low quality pictures in comparison to now.
Over here in Venezuela Whatsapp is so common and basically essential that people will mostly say "Hey I wrote to you" meaning I sent you a Whatsapp message
"Texting" is technically SMS, for Short Message Service, and pictures and video don't travel over SMS, they use MMS, the Multimedia Message Service.
SMS actually uses kind of a hack, and sends the message on normal control packets when there isn't any actual control information to send, so it's essentially "free" (and this is also why they're limited to 160 characters). MMS obviously can't do that unless you want it to take hours to send a JPEG, it uses an entirely different system. But your messaging app makes it look the same.
Just wait until you're getting all smily and winky face with some girl. Next thing you know, your ass gets sucked into the shadow realm and she's dueling the shit out of you.
The only thing I don't like is that emojis don't look the same on all platforms. Like on Samsung phones, a bunch of emojis look absolutely awful while they look good on iPhone or PC or something.
Iโm just disappointed they didnโt use combining characters to assemble the people emojis. Then there wouldnโt be the demand for separate code points for variants (female, realistic skin, etc) because you could just assemble the parts you wanted. Also, you could combine the hair and clothing โaccentsโ with the emotion ones, to make an angry policeman or whatever.
Olly0206 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"lol" acknowledges something funny because it literally means "laugh out loud."
So one - if you sent me a text with a Korean symbol I wouldn't be like, oh, right, cat sentinel. I'd be super confused why you were typing to me in Korean.
Two - when the heck have you ever needed to say to someone, cat sentinel?
nagol93 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:31:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We "roll" down the window. Still implying we're turning something
Wyn6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because there were (and still are) a set of rollers which pressed on either side of the glass, when a handle was cranked, and rolled clockwise or counter-clockwise to raise or lower the window.
I'm in central Pennsylvania, and we use both "roll" and "wind" pretty equally. I've heard people from all over the place say "wind"; I never knew it wasn't the common thing to say. Fascinating!
ITT: People who can't take 2 seconds to see that "roll the windows (up|down)" has been mentioned two thousand times already.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:18:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm alarmed by the use of "melt" to incorporate the concept of dissolution, e.g. "Put two teaspoons of sugar in the tea and stir until the sugar melts". I've heard this from a couple of different sources, and am hoping it's just coincidental ignorance, and not a US trend.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:20:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:47:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you put sugar in the microwave to melt it, it's going to melt all over the oven. You need to put it on a metal spoon.
You can lazily and often crappily ?temper? sugar in the microwave for various levels of candy (hard being easiest) if you mix it with corn syrup. Or I suppose minimal moisture, since you wouldn't be boiling off the water
I mean good luck getting it out of the container after it's been raised to that temp and hardens, but she could accidentally kind of make candy
It's also not actually that awful (mostly it's wasteful in my experience because of incomplete disso-?lution? idfk words, too tired) compared to making candy on a stovetop if you heat, stir, repeat as advised by Google-able recipes, and then throw in an envelope of your favourite koolaid flavour when it's not so hot it will burn the powder
Again tho, seriously difficult to clean up without some effort, thanks to the need to use glass and it ending up coated with tempered sugar
And useless for tea, but hey - microwave candy!
drakeg4 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:09:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I've never heard anyone use melt in that way.
mr-death ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make simple syrup and keep it in the fridge!
Equal parts sugar and (almost) boiling water. Mix the two a little and let stand for a few minutes, then pour into a squueze bottle, and you have a perfect sweetener for iced tea!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in the early 20th century, the 78 RPM record was the most popular way to play recorded music. These records only held about 5 minutes of play time per side though. If you wanted to have an entire symphony, for example, you would need several discs. The discs would be sold in "albums" - several record sleeves bound on one edge like a book, similar to a photo album.
It came from the term Jay-driver. This initially referred to a driver of horse-drawn carriage or automobile who refused to follow traffic laws. More specifically driving on the wrong side of the road.
A good chunk of English (especially in the UK) is made up of idioms and sayings derivedfrom the age of sail.
Chock a block, three sheets to the wind, freeze the balls off a brass monkey, three abreast, keep an even keel, try a different tack...
And loads more all have nautical origins.
Ofreo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:03 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure the owners' manual will instruct him as to which lever is the velocitator and which one is the deceleratrix
ekvivokk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bit late to the party, but everything that you "turn" on, before, you actually had to turn, as in twist, a wheel to well, turn something on. Now we just push it on really.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we say someone is in the limelight. It is a reference to a Victorian-era type of stage light that used calcium oxide, aka "lime" to produce a bright light.
The term "balls to the wall" or "balls out" comes from the centrifugal governors on steam engines. These worked by attaching a pair of spinning (usually ball-shaped) weights to the throttling mechanism. As the motor speed increased, the centrifugal force would pull the weights apart, partially closing the throttle and slowing the motor down. When running at full speed, the weights would extend to their outermost position, meaning the "balls" would be "out" or "to the walls."
The word coach actually comes from the name of a Hungarian town called Kocs (pronounced kind of like coch). The first carriages with dampening springs were produced here, and the Holy Roman Empire used them for postal service. Hungarians called it the "kocsi szekรฉr" meaning carriage from/of Kocs. The name quickly spread through Europe with the vehicle so most European languages use it in some form. Hungarian is no exception but "kocsi" means car instead of a kind of bus. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kocs
Havenโt seen this one anywhere yet: the names for our ninth, tenth, eleventh and twelfth month come from the Latin words for seven, eight, nine and ten. Years used to start on quite different dates throughout the history of keeping time.
highyak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling up the windowsโ of your car back when they actually had to be cranked. Now itโs just pushing the button!
B-sides. I guess these are still a thing on vinyl singles, but so much of music is distributed on digital formats or CDs these days that it's no longer really a thing.
gnarlin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone", where once we had phones with 2 miles of coiled chord that would turn into a tangled ball of frustration when you stretched it too far.
Roll down the window. Windows have been electric for a while
gMoneytz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"logging on" to the internet to "surf the web".
leb111 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a term but the disc icon to save a file is pretty cool
lme1125 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:46:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHanging upโ the phone
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:06:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nimrod used to mean a valiant hunter, after a man in the bible. Until Bugs bunny used it sarcastically against Elmer Fudd and now it basisly means idiot
nico1647 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The return key on a QWERTY keyboard
On manual typewriters, the piece of paper you were typing on physically moved horizontally from right to left after each keystroke. Once the "carriage" (the box that held the paper that moves sideways) reached the far right and near the end of the page, a bell would ding indicating you were reaching the limit to which the carriage could move to the left. Once the bell dinged, you would "return" the carriage by pulling a lever on the left side of the carriage, which would both advance the page upwards and physically move the carriage back to the right side, "returning" it to its original position and starting a new line.
Dashboard originally comes from horse buggies where the board at the front was to protect the passengers from dirt dashed up by the horses. When cars came about it's where we stuck a lot of the car controls so now it has come to be synonymous with a control panel.
Threshold. Back when floors were made of thresh they needed to be held down by a plank of wood under doorways. We no longer use thresh, but the name stuck.
bpaps ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the "film industry" we still use lots of terms like "rolling" but nothing is rolling. It's all digital.
"Letting the cat out of the bag" refers to the removal of the cat 'o nine tails from its traditional red carrying bag when a sailor needed to be punished
I saw a tube tv thrown in the street the other day. I couldn't just say "there's a tv in the street". I had to specify it was a tube tv because it was big and blocky and much more dangerous than a flat screen laying there.
Ofreo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:27 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually you are thinking of flat panel TV's. Tube TV's used to be curved. CRT monitors as well. Then they started making flat CRT's, and then TV's, that had better clarity, so many people wanted them for computers, because they were usually the smaller sizes. And those old projection TV's. So when you saw an ad for a flat screen, it meant a tube monitor or tv, and flat panel meant what we think of today.
Now you can't buy a tube TV new, that I know of, so the distinction isn't needed. But now many new TV's are curved. I have a 65" Samsung that is curved, but inward, not bowed out in the middle like CRT's.
I miss the days of angrily slamming the phone down when you got into an argument. Angrily poking the end button just isn't the same. Even with flip phones, you could at least get a satisfying click when you flipped them closed.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:39:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"God bless you" when you sneeze. People used to say it during the the Black Plague because it meant that Death may be on your door step. It was supposed to mean like a "God help you" type of thing.
Itโs funny how many different interpretations this one has. My favourite has to be people who thought โgod bless youโ after sneezing was to stop your soul escaping through your nose.
Not sure where I read that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually heard that one too!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:33:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My younger sister asked me why we "taped" shows and didn't just record them.
mdickw ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:45:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fucking Christ, reddit can be a pile of shit these days. Can't people take five minutes to skim through these before posting about windows and save icons and hanging up the motherfucking phone for the hundredth goddamn time?
Hup234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol! You see this kind of knee-jerk replying all the time. Somebody needs to design a bot or something that filters out all the repetitive comments.
Out of curiosity, what do they mean? I have used the BCC functionality only once because my bossman asked me to. I call CCing "copying" people to emails.
Yeah but not enough for it to be relevant in my mind! I mean we arenโt still manufacturing them, and itโs been a long time since we have, so I think itโs an appropriate candidate! What would we call it now with automatic windows? Click down the windows?
Roll up the car window - Modern cars, more often than not, use an electrical mechanism to close/open windows instead of the manual crank older models, and/or basic versions carry.
lc7926 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If youโve ever entered North Carolina from another state, youโve probably seen the โMotorcycles must burn headlightsโ sign, even though headlights havenโt been burned in quite a while.
Cut/copy/paste. Editing paper documents involved cutting part of the article out with scissors and pasting it in the new location. Paste as in glue, so it would stay there.
caden728 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have not heard anybody minus my English professor use the term "Dank" for anything other than weed. My professor is also surprised by the term "Salty" coming back. She said it used to be something her grandparents would say, now it's coming back
I tell my wife to "warm up the tubes". Meaning turn on the TV and let those old timey vacuum tubes warm up so we can watch the old boob-tube. Much more like turn on the tv so it can find the video sources we have hooked in. Haven't had a tv with tubes in like 33yrs.
I remember when my dad would take a bad tube out of our TV and send me to the drugstore on my bicycle to buy a new replacement tube. The drugstore had a tube tester to make sure the tube was bad. There used to be at least one TV repair shop in every town and they sometimes sent a repairman to your house to work on the TV.
Boy have things changed.
zpp1213 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. I recognize that cars stillhave this, but it's starting to become the minority.
Damn, askreddit has been on nostalgia/retro kick lately. Still good topic though.
catbirb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The movie industry is full of them. Movies themselves are still occasionally called films, or the "film industry". The act of recording something is still called filming. Saying something is "rolling" to mean the recording has begun, even though there is no film reel to roll. Saying we'll "cut" something to mean we'll take it out even though there's no film to physically cut. The list goes on.
Has anyone seen that Apple commercial for the new Ipad and the little girl is sitting in her backyard playing with it and the neighbor goes, "What are you doing on your computer?" and the girl responds, "What's a computer?" Like wtf? Is the term computer going to be irrelevant?!
Edit: is switched for in
taeg1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of. People just say things like desktop, PC, or laptop instead of saying computer.
One i haven't seen yet I point out all the time is "Roll down your window" when in a car. I know some cars still have rollers on them but it is a dying term.
Eduki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Dial'. It didn't even really make sense in the 70s with touch tone.
Dial is called that due to actually rotating the rotary dial on an old timey phone.
sockmess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rotary phones was still being produced in the 80s.
Fixed used to mean 'make permanent' the opposite was 'temporary, fleeting, or momentary' now fixed is the opposite of broken.
It went from 'I choose my courses and they are fixed in the system' to 'I fixed the cabinet'.
When people say "clicker" referring to a TV remote (it varies by region what people call it) but remotes actually used to make a click sound the TV would respond to.
Typing. The term literally refers to 'movable type', the cast metal letters which were used for printing from about 1450 onwards (in the West, anyway). The typecaster would cast the piece for each letter from the same mould (one mould for 'a', one for 'b', etc.) โ so every 'a' would be the of same 'type'.
Similarly the word 'font' comes from 'fount' (pronounced the same), the name given to a complete set of movable type. The fount would be inked, and, when pressed onto paper, would result in its appearance โ its 'face' โ being printed on the page. That, incidentally, is where we get the term 'typeface', meaning the appearance of a specific set of letters. Technically, 'font' only refers to the method of production: formerly metal type, now digital software. Try telling that to Microsoft Word though.
Originally, upper and lower case letters were referred to as 'majuscule' and 'minuscule'. The terms 'upper case' and 'lower case' come from the physical cases in which the fount would be stored. The more easily-accessible lower one would contain minuscule (small) letters, while the upper case was reserved for majuscules (capitals).
This is all a bit of an oversimplification โ the history of type is nebulous and complicated to say the least โ but I hope it was insightful.
Not a term but I'm trying to break the habit of double-spacing after a period in a sentence when typing. My typing teacher drilled this into us (like using home row and not looking at your hands or keyboard when you type) but with today's fonts, it is no longer necessary. Dammit!
Saying "bless you" when someone sneezes. Drives me crazy i dont want to have to say thank you every time i sneeze, we have know for a long long time there arnt evil spirits leaving the body
Namhaid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"track" as a reference to different songs on a record.
Though, "record" hasn't lost its core relevance, contrary to what someone else on this thread has said. After all, songs are still recorded. The format is just different.
Odd i don't see "cut and paste" in the top responses. Once upon a time in newspapers, if you wanted to move paragraphs in a typed story, you literally cut the story into pieces and took an uncut piece of paper and pasted the paragraphs in the correct order using glue or rubber cement. Ergo, you would "cut and paste" to move paragraphs around.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was asked by my young nephew why I say "ROLL up your window" while in the car. Many cars don't have the little turny-lever thingy any more.
Solid state drive. This comes from hard drive, where there was a spinning disk or drive. Ssd has no actual drive. Also c:\ is commonly referred to as c drive, but again if it's on an ssd, there's no actual drive.
ekkopop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Referring to your Facebook page as your "wall" is an interesting one. "Post it to my wall" has mostly given way to "Tag me in it," but not entirely.
Facebook no longer has a wall, yet people still use the term pretty often. This is an example of a term that is very recent and yet is obsolete. We'll see if it sticks around for any length of time.
FAHQRudy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crews still talk about filming when all we shoot is video now. Also terms like "check the gate" which doesn't mean what it used to mean, "roll sound," "rolling," etc. The tech has changed, but most of the habits haven't.
Words that once wore their heart on their sleeve: a freelancer was a knight-adventurer who used his lance for anyone who paid him; a secretary kept secrets; illustrators added lustre; and a heathen lived on the (โuncivilisedโ) heath.
The Carbon Copy or "CC" feature in your email. In the old days there was this special kind of paper called carbon copy and if you placed it under a document while it was being written on, it would essentially make an exact duplicate of that document. The carbon copy was then used to send the same document to multiple people, hence why we say "CC" / carbon copying now in emails.
Words like stereotype and clichรฉ originated as printing terms. IIRC, a stereotype is a master printing plate used for the mass production of documents, and โclichรฉโ is old-fashioned French onomatopoeia for the sound an ink roller made as it flew across the metal stereotype. Though printing presses and roller printers are still around, theyโre obviously far less common than digital printers, so I suppose these terms have lost their core relevance.
I think the terms uppercase and lowercase are also old printing speak, as majuscule and minuscule letters were kept in boxes at different heights, depending on how frequently theyโd be needed.
daixso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Net Neutrality
kootrell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down your window."
dallken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phoneโ should be kinda dead.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This whole comment section is just one big mind-fuck, holy shit. The internet did good today.
Glovebox! Where else would you put your driving gloves? I don't think there's even an equivalent word or phrase that's not extensively long. "Passenger storage compartment?"
Mix'tape' for an album that's not on a tape like a cassette.
BYUtka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kids all call "Rewind" "Fast-Back"
We have Fast Forward and "Fast Back"
Yes, I laugh at them every time... but it makes sense. Rewind is, as OP noted, no longer relevant. Fast Back makes sense...
Carriage Return (Return) on your keyboard. I suppose it still sort of does what it says, but nowadays it might be more appropriate to name it "next line" (although a lot of keyboards now name it "Enter").
No, my Grandparents had a HUGE TV with a wireless remote. Controls where Channel Up, Volume Up, Power.
Three buttons. Each with what I remember as a 1 inch throw. There were three metal bars inside that I assume we're the antennas. Keep in mind I'm not "Young", so this was a long long time ago!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โScoreโ - originally comes from making an incision
Obscu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hanging up" the phone.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most modern keyboards label the carriage-return key as "Enter" these days, but the label still persists today; even though keyboards do not "return" the carriage head to the beginning left typing position like typewriters of old did.
Pissed I am so late for this but "Running the Gamut" or as some would say "Gambit".
In Medieval music, a gamut is a scale of notes. Due to the lack of paper and whatnot back then, people had to come up with pretty unconventional ways to remember and teach things. Enter Guido of Arezzo.
Now he was a musical theorist who came up mnemonic device using the different parts of the hand to represent different notes. This "Guidonian Hand" as it was called would be used to instruct singers on which notes were to be sung based on the position of the fingers and joints which represented hexachords.
So essentially "running the gamut" just means running the musical scales.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term Broadcasting. Now used in media was originally a term for agricultural means. You would originally broadcast seeds over your land.
sprucay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The floppy disc as a save icon
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Sammy1Am ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And "terrific" inspired terror.
arcxjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Terrible", as in "Ivan the", is similar.
Ketmandu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone
strack94 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought about this a lot. In Film, people use the original industry standard terms for everything.
Even though most of the industry has gone digital, people still use terms that date back to actual film.
Things like โRolling!โ or โPrint that!โ can be heard constantly.
Somethings just never change because they donโt have to.
FYI, just in case nobody has mentioned this in the other 7,000 comments I cannot bring myself to scan through, the term for this kind of word (and also for items which retain the appearance/form of something for recognition's sake when the original reason for it being that shape is obsolete) is skeumorph.
Not a term but the floppy disk image/thumbnail is used to save and is commonly known amongst youngsters for that... Most people these days have know idea how awesome floppy disks were.
Tasgall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Pull out all the stops", usually used in a, "don't hold anything back" sense, originally came from when an organist would pull all the little handles (stops) by the organ keyboards (manuals) to activate different ranks and sets of pipes.
Pulling all the stops would activate all the pipes, giving the loudest and most intense sound you can make with that organ.
"Balls to the wall" - originally had something to do with the engine room of the ship you were on. I don't recall the specific names, but apparently feeding the ship more coal caused the engine to work faster, thus spinning a piece of metal that was weighted with two balls on the end. The faster the ship went, the further out these pieces of metal would extend , thus the phrase balls to the wall.
"Ok" originally was military code for "zero kills" with respect to allied troops and was considered good news.
I think that "Under the Weather" was originally used in reference to somebody who was seasick. The rocking motion of the boat was relatively less if you went below deck to the bottom of the ship. Hence if you were sick you were considered to be "under the weather" because if you were below deck you were out of the elements.
pandy32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still call a remote control a converter and when something is recorded on the pvr, I call it taped.
Some people still say "Turn the channel" or "Turn the TV off" when there was an actual knob you turned to change channels. And the volume knob was turn to left till it clicked to "turn off" the TV or vice versa to "turn on" the TV.
Chrisrus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Werewolf". The Old English word for "man" was "were".
woodowl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Posh: when rich English people went to India for the winter, their ticket was stamped P.O.S.H. meaning Portside Out, Starboard Home. The least sunny sides of the ship.
welniok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, this story did not make its appearance until the 1930s, by which time the term had already been in use for some twenty years.
~ Oxford Dictionary
Wow, welnick, youโre a wealth of knowledge. Does this mean it was never used this way? Or that youโre the etymology police?
welniok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:21 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
P.O.S.H. stamped tickets weren't a real thing. Journey to India was so long (at least over 2 weeks one way) that people didn't make reservation for return trips when they were still at home.
Also, it's very unlikely that not a single P.O.S.H. stamped ticket would have not survived to our times - trip to India was a life's trip, people would keep such memorabilia.
The word "posh" probably comes from a gypsy word meaning half-pence from XVII century. Then it changed it's meaning to money -> the thing that costs a lot of money -> someone who can own such things.
The story was made up, same goes just SWAG as "secretly we are gay" acronym.
Men used to look for sticks to beat their wife with and would say a good one was the size of their thumb. Too much and they were abusers. Too little and they wouldn't learn their lessons
Try not to giggle, but "boner" used to mean a mistake. If you messed something up, you "made a boner". I think we all know what it refers to these days.
Trunk of a car. Used to be an actual wooden trunk strapped to be back of a automobile.
2stangs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Nose to the grindstone."
In old mills, you used your sense of smell to check if you were over-milling the grain (because it would start to burn). You literally had to keep your nose to the grindstone.
Hang up (place the phone handset back on the cradle)
Dial (turn the dial on a rotary phone)
Xjph ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Drive", in the sense of a device for data storage, is actually in progress toward this right now. It originally referred to the physical action of the motor in the device that would drive the disk so that it would spin. (You put a disk in a drive to use it.) Now it's used for all types of storage, which more and more frequently have no moving parts at all.
wrongtim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up a phone
SM60652 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the windows in the car.
jxnfpm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too late to be noticed, but carbon copy.
Carbon paper used to be more regularly used to make a second copy of whatever you were writing. When e-mail messages were sent to someone who wasn't a primary recipient, you were sending them a "carbon copy", or CCing them.
I haven't seen carbon paper regularly used anywhere for a long while, but everyone uses the term CC for including someone as a non-primary recipient on an e-mail.
for graphic designers, "leading" between lines of text. pronounced like the metal, today means "the amount of blank space between lines of text" but back in the day of type setting, it meant how much lead was placed to separate lines of text.
dphung ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down/up
daklew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dodge and burn in photoshop, the terms were used in the darkroom where you would add more or less light on part of a photo but adobe brought the terms to modern photoshop
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man...I'm really not smart because I read rewind as re-wind and thought you were talking about some antiquated term that had to do with refilling hot air balloons or zeppelins! Haha!
Getting the 411 on something. Back in the day, we would call 411 (or "information") if we needed a phone number and didn't have a phone book. There was a small fee per call.
Having someone on "speed dial." Better-model house phones had a few buttons that would allow you to save important numbers that you presumably used a lot.
Found out this evening they come from the old printing presses where the capital letters were in the Upper 'Case'. The cases were literally stacked cases of letters
โRoll up the windowโ referred to the hand crank of some carsโ windows. Now with electric cars and automated windows, its no longer necessary but still used.
sar231 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was originally from the custom of paying lawyers that represented you at court what you could afford to pay, they had a pocket in the backs of their gowns that you put your payment in. The idea was that because they didn't know how much you paid them they wouldn't be biased in the amount of effort they put in to representing you.
N02AJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"you sound like a broken record" I said, only later realizing I have no idea how a broken record sounds. I imagine it should just sound like silence...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A broken record will repeat a certain part of the track over and over again, which is why someone who repeats themselves is called a "broken record."
taifoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind down the window in a car.
Like_a_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Done and dusted. When writing with ink you used to put special powder / dust over the document to soak up excess ink.
"Punching in." Closest i've come to that was when I had to take a "class" (aka do free work selling food) and the world's loudest goddamn automatic stamper had to stamp my bigass cardstock sheet when I started and ended my shift. That was in ~'14
The actual Real McCoy talks about the McCoy automatic oiler on steam engines. The oiler had a lot of knock offs and look alikes for it. But, the McCoy oiler was always the best. Thus, leading to the real McCoy.
As someone who has worked on steam engines, restoring rolling stock, and is a historian. I think I can properly verify it. Google it if you dont believe me. And it's a phrase.
I did google it and wikipedia lists several possible origins. Its fine if your partial to the train related one, it's just that i know there are other possibilities.
Wireless. My battery powered electric razor is wireless but we don't call it a "wireless razor." Calling something wireless is like calling a car a "horseless carriage."
I'm not much of a fan of wine, so I remember my ship sides like this: port and left both have 4 letters; right and starboard both have more than 4 letters.
xcarex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My windows still have cranks, haha.
hoss103 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Balls out" used to refer to the mechanical speed governor on steam engines, in which the weights (balls) would be flung outward the faster the steam engine ran.
"Balls to the wall" originally meant full throttle in old multi-engine airplanes. The balls were the throttle handles which were pushed all the way forward against the instrument panel.
The most interesting thing about this thread, is all the use of these words that still exists from their practical uses back in the day shows how learning English as a language actually makes no sense as half the words are based on what used to happen but are no said for other things.
How the language will change in the next 20 years will be so complex as slang words of slang words of slang words will then be normal speak. All referring to a use of a word in ancient modern English
My favourite is 'noon'. It's such a good useful word to use for midday but it wasn't always the case.
Noon comes from the Latin 'nona' meaning 9. Noon was the nineth hour of the Roman day which was measured only daylight hours. The sun comes up at around 6am would place noon at around 3pm.
The church, very Latin focused, would conduct prayers at this time and were known as noon payers. Over time these payers moved to midday and with them so did their name. Noon payers lead to midday being known a noon.
TL;DR Noon meant 9, which was 3pm and is now 12:00 midday
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"i'll just tape it and watch it later". My coworker says this all the time when referring to DVRing his shows.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freelance. Referred to a knight without a lord, hence a "free lance" or lance for hire, as a knight's primary use on the battlefield was as heavy cavalry with a lance.
tL1ght ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine calls โtime outโ during every day conversations and I always have to tell her there is no time out.
slane421 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, but talking about taping things, having something taped, having tapes, with reference to digital recordings. It actually really irrationally iritates me
A more recent one is the floppy disc icon for saving things. It's completely out of date and people now know it as the save icon and don't know what a floppy disc is. I know this as I have to train people to use a hospital computer system
The save icon on office and other programs is a 3.5 inch floppy drive.
Bizrrr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Representative Official
basquenv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this counts or not because it is actually the inverse of the question posted: my daughter, she was 7, I was 43 at the time, says โlet me see your flashlightโ.
Me: โI donโt have a flashlightโ
Daughter: โyes you do, itโs on your phoneโ.
I think she lost a bit of confidence in me that day. BTW, is it even a phone anymore, or do we all have a micro-computer that has the ability to send/receive calls? I hate calling anyone because they might actually answer the damned thing.
Kortalh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personally, I very rarely use the telephone app on my Android.
The โCha-chingโ onomatopoeia. The machine that made the sound is nearly non-existent unless you stop at a few gas stations in rural areas.
pbzen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "saved by the bell" was originally used for bells above the buried dead. It used to be hard to determine if people were indeed dead, and mistakes were made, so inventors came up with an idea to connect the inside of the coffin with a tube. If the person, in fact, woke up buried alive then he/she could yank on the string and ring the bell and be saved. I learned this on the first episode of 'Lore' and I'm pretty sure nobody does this anymore.
ffzero58 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtape.
I still get offered one when I walk around the city.
This may have been said already, but threshold comes to mind. We no longer have thresh on the floors that needs to be kept in place.
Velvis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone said car windows yet? Or taping something? WTF people, why not peruse the comments a little before being the 400th person to say "roll down the windows"
Not quite applicable I guess - but my understanding is that "freeways" on the West Coast got that name because "expressways" on the East Coast were often toll roads, while in the west, they were 'free'...except over major bridges.
"Scroll" as a verb originally refers to rolling a scroll around two pins as you read it continuously.
"Love" in tennis, which means a score of 0, likely comes from the French "l'ลuf" which means "the egg." Just like how we call a score of 0 a "goose egg" in more modern English.
โHit the headโ means to go to the bathroom, From the times of old ships people did their business right off the bowsprit right on the figure head. Think pirate ships.
This might be my favorite topic.
The "save" icon for most applications is still a 3.5" floppy disk, I haven't seen one of those for at least 15 years. My kids have no idea what it represents.
Rynneer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You sound like a broken record" and
"Hold your horses" come to mind
I still hear โI left a message on your answering machine โ
all4gibs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โroll up the windowโ
SD_Guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tablet
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Suspenders used to be called 'braces'. Nowadays, braces refer to the things dentists fix to your teeth.
zyphlox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and Paste. Before computer word processing people would physically cut and paste (glue) portions of text to edit manuscripts as it saved having to re-type whole sections.
hapkiman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial. As in dial a phone number.
milerky2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just thinking about this today... get out of my head hivemind!
There are two terms we still use today that originate from medieval millers who would grind flour from grain. Rule of Thumb used to refer to how you would check the coarseness of the flour you were grinding, by rubbing it with your fingers.
And other one is Grind to a Halt, from when mills were wind powered, and the wind would stop blowing, the stone would grind to a halt.
Jaiyk79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "rule of thumb"-It is often claimed that the term rule of thumb is derived from a law that limited the maximum thickness of a stick with which it was permissible for a man to beat his wife
Didnt pan out. Not like weโre panning for gold much these days
Wierd657 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put the lights out, as if they are still candles/flames.
Turn on. Sorta kinda still perfectly relevant but TVs don't have dials or switches to turn them on. Other things of course still do. However with new cars, they're push button. There's no key to turn, no engine to turn over or crank. Going back farther, the electric starter replaced the hand crank to turn or crank the engine over.
CC'ing into emails refers to 'carbon copy', a process that's still used in some places to get multiple copies of a paper form just by pressing hard enough on the top sheet.
The examples must be very numerous. Here's one of my favorites - a harrowing experience.
The harrow is an agricultural implement consisting of many spikes, tines or discs dragged across the soil. Needless to say, if you happen to be in its path, you'd have a very bad day.
Riiiiiiight. Thatโs why I submitted this as an example of something thatโs lost itโs core relevance. We used to actually cc each other prior to e-mail. Then we switched to e-mail but, kept using cc even though it was no longer relevant.
WryBones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower.
When the term first came to use, describing the power of a steam engine with how many horses it could replace was a valid marketing strategy and an analogy pretty much anybody could understand.
This reminds me, I was showing my kindergarten class an extreme dominoes video today (their reward for a good day) and at the end they rewinded the video and it all played in reverse. And blew their damn minds. They couldn't figure out what rewinding was or how it worked. It was magic.
scothc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 8 year old told me I needed to let the CD buffer because it was skipping (it was scratched)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was โtaped.โ
gurkdjur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Photoshop, the shadow and highlighting tools do the exact opposite to what they say: the highlight tool darkens and the shadow tool lightens. I think it can be traced back to the days of polaroid.
kelaar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โWatch the tubeโ for when the tv was made with a cathode ray tube, though anymore I only hear people my grandparents age using it, although my parents did use it when I was young.
bguy74 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the things we see on a "monitor" aren't "monitoring" anything - they aren't seeing a real thing, they are seeing things that are generated by a computer. The word "display" is an accurate attempt, but "Monitor" is widely utilized.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"click this link" when referring to a link on smartphones (that don't have mice).
Actually, my family and I haven't used "rewind" since VCRs. Ever since DVDs came out weve been saying "back it up" or "go back 10 seconds" etc. Especially now that everything we watch is downloaded or streamed... we haven't even bought a DVD in over a decade.
Raising your right hand when being sworn in in court.
Back in the day, establishing one's identity (and thus one's criminal record) wasn't easy. Therefore courts would brand convicts on their right hand with a marker of their crime. Suspects would be asked to raise their right hand so the judge could inspect their criminal record.
"To get one's wires crossed" dates from when, if you used a telephone, you'd be connected to an operator who'd connect you by physically plugging wires into a switchboard. If you got put on a line with the wrong person, it meant the wires had been mixed up or crossed.
Mheft95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Krinks1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Half-cocked: originally for flintlock weapons. You would pull back the hammer and get a click...then pull further and get a second click. If you only cocked the hammer half way, it wouldn't be enough to fire the weapon.
Going off half cocked means you do something only half prepared and it would fail.
Flash in the pan: Flintlock weapons had a pan that contains powder that was ignited by the spark from the flint. That powder would then set off the charge in the weapon and fire the ball.
When the ignition failed to set off the charge, you'd get a small flash and smoke, but nothing else.
Now it means something that causes a lot of fuss, but doesn't last or make any significant impact.
โKeep your nose to the grindstoneโ.
Pretty old but still neat.
Two mill stones would be rotated opposite one another to grind wheat between them. The resulting flower from the grinding is not only the product but also the โlubricantโ for the two stones. If there isnโt enough flour between stones, or if the stones are too close the stones could cause a spark (flour powder can be explosive).
To prevent an explosion or fire, the mill worker would regularly have to get his nose down near where the stones meet to smell for something burning.
ITT people who donโt know that pushing the button to roll up a window is still rolling up the window.
Just because there isnโt a crank to do it manually doesnโt mean the mechanism changed. Hell some cars have a cap over the location that you can take off to see a motor that spins in the same way that manual window cranks spin.
compacto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love you
blue_27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:16:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most things to do with a phone.
It needs a cradle to hang up.
It needs a dial to ... dial.
It needs a bell to ring.
I know those phrases are all vestigial from when phones actually had those things, but most people don't remember the long, long ago; and even fewer people still have or use these devices.
This is an idiom but pull out all the stops comes from pipe organs. Stops dampen the sound level. If you pull the valves and open them all the organ will be as loud as it can be. Which for a pipe organ tends to be loud enough to deafen a church congregation
Turbo is a genus of sea snails from the Cretaceous period that predates the supercharger by 100 million years. So uh, petty sure that's the Turbo everyone talks about.
"Below the fold" for less prominent front page news stories hidden when the paper was folded in half. "Galley Proof" for the first proof of a book for the authors final edits- in the days of metal type, a few sets of prints could be quickly made by hand with the type on metal "galley trays" instead of setting up the big production press.
bpaps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you "CC" someone in am email, you don't actually make a carbon copy, but the name still sticks.
โComputer Bugโ or "bug in the system" used to mean literal bugs were inside the machine back in the days when computer's had vacuum tubes and moving parts!
Pussy (as in, don't be a pussy). Most people today assume it a derogatory connection to female genitalia, but it's not. The word far predates the modern slang use.
In fact, there's no clear origin for what the term originally meant. There are three or four possible origins, but none of them are sexual or gendered insults.
I'm lazy, so I'll just post a link to where someone else already made a great, succinct list.
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/100990/how-does-pussy-come-to-mean-coward
MrAshh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โPulling out all the stopsโ
Itโs a term from music, pipe organs to be precise. Organs have stops, everytime you pull out a stop, it will turn on a new set of sounds. When you pull out all the stops, you will hear all the available sounds at once, making it really loud.
Hanging up the phone by placing it back on the reciever.
Having to manually roll up the car windows. I told my daughter to roll the window up and she had no idea what I meant.
Hup234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These have probably been mentioned but...
Nope, you're the first.
klaehsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canโt believe I havenโt seen it on here yet (maybe I havenโt gone down far enough) but to โroll down a windowโ in a car. Cars not have electric windows and donโt have to be โrolled downโ by hand
cj9jones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Stay tuned for the next episode!" from radio shows where you actually had to tune your radio to different channels using a knob.
os2mac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really word or term but it's related to the sort of Anachronism you are discussing and it's a fun story so here goes:
The Space Shuttle Story:
Back when the Space Shuttle was being designed NASA's had the idea of spreading the manufacturing wealth around to a lot of companies. This is not really a new idea, it's done in DoD procurement quite often to stave off potential cuts by Congress. Nobody will cut a program that causes job losses in their own district.
The job of manufacturing the Solid Rocket Boosters was given to a small firm in Utah. Now the most convenient way for this company to ship the completed boosters to NASA was via railroad. Unfortunately the closest rail line had tunnels on the route leaving town so the design of the rocket boosters was limited by width the of the tunnels.
Here's where it get's interesting. The width of those tunnels was determined by the average width of rail car. The width of the rail car was in turn determined by the width of the tracks. The width of the tracks was determined by the width of wagon wheel ruts. The width of a wagon was determined by the width of two horses.
So therefore, the worlds first reusable space craft was in a small part designed to the specification of the width of two horses asses.
September, October, November, and December should, of course, be the seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth months of the year. As they were originally. Their core relevance lost because we tossed in a couple of extra months and rather than put them in at the end of the calendar, we put them at the beginning and didn't bother renaming anything. Silly.
That's all right. We'll soon be to January. Most folks won't bother to even consider the core relevance of that name. A few will get it wrong - thinking it has something to do with the two-faced god Janus looking both forward and backward. That would be poetic. The real meaning is more prosaic: the door month.
Most people associate February with Valentine's Day without considering that the month is named for a purification ritual held at that time of year. The ritual, februum, was held on February 15 and given what often happens on February 14, maybe we should still give it some thought.
March comes in like a lion. And how. It was named for the god of War. As was the planet, Mars. I'd wager far more people know about the Mars-Mars connection than the Mars-March connection, though.
April... Well, we're totally screwed on this one. We're not at all sure what the core relevance was. So, yeah, I guess we forgot about it.
May takes her name from a Greek goddess. Probably. Most folks couldn't even tell you what Maia was goddess of.
June for Juno, a Roman goddess this time. Most likely.
July for Julius Cรฆsar - something more than a few people know. Few know that it's the month of his birth. Which was then called Quintilis because it was the fifth month.
August for Augustus. All right, I think most folks know this one. But do they spare a thought for poor old Sextilis which lost its place on the calendar?
Sure, we know that Sunday is named for the sun and most folks can guess that Monday is named for the moon. American Gods fans know that Wednesday is named for Odin (Woden) but often miss that Odin was considered the Germanic Mercury. So the core relevance slides from one god to another.
Which might give you pause over Thursday (Thor's day) and lead you to remember another god of Thunder. Yeah, Thursday at its core is Jupiter's day.
Call her Frigg or Frija or Frea or Frige, she's the namesake of Friday. But, once again, the day is really referencing another goddess: Venus.
All that one deity standing in for another apparently got to be too much. So Saturday really is just plain old Saturn's day.
Finally, we might just want to hold on a moment and wonder how long a moment is. Gets a bit tricky since a moment references a shadow moving across a sundial. But we can give it a nice average length of about 90 modern seconds. A bit longer than most people think they need to wait when they give you a moment.
โHang up the phone.โ Iโm pretty sure my 81 year old grandmother is the only person who still has a phone on a wall with a 30 foot cord so you can pace around the house in comfort.
Jmich96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flat screen TV. CRT's stopped production about 10 years ago... All TV's are flatscreens (in the terms original meaning).
In the word โcollectโ the โlectโ comes from the latin โligna,โ which means firewood. So every time someone says โcollectโ when talking about something else, like coupons for example, theyโre really saying โdo to coupons what we used to do to firewood.โ
Pretty late to the party but I didn't see it yet so here it is. "Roll down/up the window". Originally was phrased that way since cars had the crank handle to roll down or up the window. Now most people say it but simply press a button
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ down the window. You just push a button now and donโt have to crank it lol
I know I am late, and this may have already been said, but the origin of the term "saved by the bell" was an expression about people being buried alive. The concept of this term is that if someone were mistakenly pronounced dead while unconscious, then they could ring the bell that was attached to their coffin if they awoke.
I have always heard of this in regarding being buried alive. There was a mortician that did an AMA and he had also mentioned this term being related to being buried alive. It could definitely have multiple meanings!
None of the lights in my place are actually bulbs anymore but I'm not going to get anywhere asking my spouse to put diodes on the shopping list.
I took my 3 year old to the optometrist and instead of letters the pediatric vision chart has symbols: Bird, hand, horse and rider, jeep, birthday cake but then one of the symbols is a rotary phone. The last time I saw one was about ten years before the kid was born.
Rebreok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always disappointed that no one mentions "dead center" - its a pointed tube that goes on a lathe, and is specifically set up so that it points right smack at the center of the part being turned. Depending on the lathe and operator, these are usually aligned to within 0.0001", or 0.01 mm
LaBoogar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nilok1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:28:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Photoshop has processes that are based on old darkroom (I guess even that term is dated) terms.
For example 'dodge' and 'burn'. It refers to projecting an image onto photosensitive paper and increasing or decreasing the amount of light hitting it. Even the icon for it resembles the old tools used for doing it.
HyFikz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:58:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The distinction of archiving a document to preserve it for it's historical relevance is too often conflated with the term archive used in computers. As technology becomes more pervasive and prominent in our lives, to archive something from a modern perspective is to consolidate many computer files and compress them into one unit.
Not so much a term, but the icon to Save is a picture of a floppy disk. I'm sure the vast majority of people under 35 have never seen any type of floppy disk IRL.
Er, no, podcast as opposed to broadcast/narrowcast. A sound recording in a 'pod' (i.e. independent container) which can be accessed or downloaded from the internet at will, not reliant on it being 'sent' by any other means. (Source: BBC engineer)
*edit: a rogue letter
AncientJ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:21:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"posh" comes from when the wealthy would take steamships for vacation purposes. if you were wealthy enough, you would get a room on the port side on the way to your destination (usually the Mediterranean) and starboard side on the way back. this was because the sun would shine on the starboard side on beginning of the journey, heating up the room, and on the port side on the way back. since the ships didn't have air conditioners but they did have heaters, you could heat up a room but you couldn't cool it off. porters would pencil POSH on the luggage tickets meaning, "Port Outbound, Starboard Home" to signify where the patron was staying on the ship. since only the truly wealthy could afford to be that picky about rooms, it became synonymous with wealth - living the posh life.
This is a well known myth unfortunately. It was actually first made up about British passengers wanting to see India on the way in and out of Mumbai. Still not true though :D
There was a case where a moth got into a Russian computer and started messing stuff up. Tons of people tried to figure out what the problem was and no one could figure it out. It turns out it was a moth inside the computer. They started looking for โbugsโ to debug computers.
Skrap93 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:03:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word โliterallyโ has literally lost its meaning.
Bugs (the programming term) referred to actual bugs who would be attracted by the old computersโ heat and subsequently be squished by a closing relay. Its corpse prevented the circuit from closing when needed and resulted in wrong outputs, so some poor bastard had to check and clean the relays regularly.
Television literally means visual stuff that is transmitted from one place to another, so any video material on TV or the Internet is tele-vision. Old word still works for new meaning.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:46:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're correct about that. When I said "on TV", I meant that the shows are aired on TV networks, like ABC, NBC, etc. Movies, after they're in theaters, are also showed "on a TV screen", but we don't usually call them TV shows.
Maybe it doesn't quite fit the OPs question, but I think the notion of "watching TV" is going through a bit of a transition.
I don't have cable since I started using online streaming stuff. So instead of saying "I'm watching TV" I say "I'm watching the internet". If there's nothing in particular I want to watch, I say "There's nothing on the internet" instead of "There's nothing on TV"
arkhound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix becomes entirely synonymous with watching shows online.
bambamtx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It comes full meta because all those products are sold on Amazon. Amazon is killing Amazon.
heymaa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:33:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Punch the clock" or "Punching in" referring to the hole punch/time stamp a machine would press onto your physical timecard. I know some place still use these, but even with new electronic services the term punching in is still used.
Even DVR at this point sounds ancient to me. Haven't had cable for years and then decided to get Vue last year, which has no specific DVR as most people know it. I haven't DVR'd anything in about 7 years.
Meldrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think 99% of the time I hear the word "binge" it's related to something other than binge-eating and drinking, which was pretty much the original connotation before terms like "binge-watching" came to fruition.
Two birds with one stone, if you are trying to kill birds with stones you got issues.
blipsman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
referring to a band's group of songs as an album
calling a movie for home viewing as a video
BatBurgh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial the phone
DrNO811 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go on vacation. In the United States, there's no such thing as vacation anymore - you take your work with you or you work your butt off on either side of the "vacation" in order to make up for lost time. (and rarely is there such a thing as relaxing)
illpoet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
riding shotgun. no one has had a guy with a shotgun next to the driver in 120 years.
Radical... I was born in the 80s and that was a popular term thanks to TMNT, The Simpsons and everything else... Now when you hear it... It doesn't quite mean the same thing.
September, October, November and December mean 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th month; respectively.
FarazR90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer/programming "bug".
The use of the term bug originated from when computers were the size of an entire room with a lot of wire and buttons and what not. It something didn't work well or malfunctioned, it was most likely due to a physical bug (fly and things like that) that went into the wires and short-circuit or malfunctioned something. Hence the term "it's a bug".
It comes from the horse and cart days where it was a literal piece of board that sat between the horse and rider to protect the the rider from being hit by dirt being flung up when the horse "dashed". It was a literal "dash board".
It was then put into cars where various indicators were added to assist the driver. Now "dashboard" is synonymous with those indicators which lead to its use on computer "dashboards".
Hang up the phone. We no longer have phone receivers to โhang upโ on the phone cradle that activated the button or lever to end the call. We just press the โendโ button.
Not a term, but does have everyday use: the save icon is a floppy disk which is obviously not in use anymore.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging code, which derives from the time code was punched on 'paper' which when read by the machine sometimes would read bugs sitting on paper as code, which would have to be manually debugged for the machine to continue.
can anyone tell me where the term, "swing by" (ie: swing by my place") comes from? is it a term we used to use when we were still swinging on vines as monkeys? i think that ones the oldest in that case
hellarar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not words but icons: The save icon in most applications is a 3.25โ floppy disk, the email icon is a stamped envelope, the phone is an old curved handset.
sumuji ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bless you" after someone sneezes. In olden times they said this because they thought the person was expelling demons when they sneezed.
It's used in place of "good luck" due to superstition these days. It used to refer to the mechanisms to open and close the main stage curtain, these cranks/levers were called 'Legs', and to "Break a leg" meant to do a performance so amazing the stagehands would have to open and close the curtains so much (for encores, cheering, etc.) that they would break/snap the Leg from putting that much stress on the curtain cranks.
PvtToonz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sounding like a broken record" to describe someone repeating themselves a couple times.
Erik831 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still hear, and am guilty of using the term โmovie trailerโ sometimes.
They used to put previews of upcoming films at the end of a movie, but that was almost immediately recognized as a bad idea since everyone was leaving the theater.
pwebster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goodbye - is a contraction of god be with you
pwebster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This post has given me alot of TIL comments
onogur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre all talking about the floppy disk icon, but an icon itself used to be small representation of Jesus or a saint.
Also, I still โdrawโ a bowl of water even though we have neither a pump or a well.
Dagonus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering rewind has its first recorded use in the 18th century, I'm not really sure it's fair to say is core use is gone. Rather, its recent use is gone.
Even further, "genius" was a description for an idea in particular, not the individual who thought of it. E=MC2 would be considered "genius", not Einstein himself.
Part of the reason "geniuses" can have stress and anxiety issues: They feel they must constantly put forth intelligent ideas to meet expectations.
Same concept and function but it's got an older style analog camera on it. No one really uses those anymore except specialists or hobbyists because we all have one in our pocket now and don't care about super good quality as much as portability and convenience.
Ahhhh fuck there's a word for this and I forgot what its called. The word basically describes when a symbol used to represent something is no longer actually used, like a floppy disc save icon, a picture of a phone handle for when you make calls even though most children have never used a phone that wasnt a smart phone. Ughhhh what was the word for this.
Not so much. James Watt determined that a horse could turn a mill wheel 144 times in an hour (or 2.4 times a minute). The wheel was 12 feet (3.7 m) in radius; therefore, the horse travelled 2.4 ร 2ฯ ร 12 feet in one minute. Watt judged that the horse could pull with a force of 180 pounds-force (800 N). So:
P = W t = F d t = 180 l b f ร 2.4 ร 2 ฯ ร 12 f t 1 m i n = 32 , 572 f t โ l b f m i n .
Watt defined and calculated the horsepower as 32,572 ftยทlbf/min, which was rounded to an even 33,000 ftยทlbf/min.
We have to have a comparative method of evaluating power output from engines, and horsepower is it.
OhHiGCHQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn on the light refers to the days light switches were modelled after gas valves.
Carbon copy. I don't know if it is used much anymore outside of cc: on emails. I wonder where the average age cutoff is for remembering the days of carbon paper.
Really? I never see it anymore. It seems to have been replaced with paper that has some reaction to pressure rather than needing separate carbon paper.
The words "calculator" and "computer" used to refer to people who computed numbers and complex equations before the invention of the electronic substitutes we use today.
Shot gunning weed is when you take a hit, hold it in, and then transfer the smoke from your mouth to another persons mouth, usually by kissing, but it can be done by making your hands into a funnel, or using a toilet paper roll.
Soldiers in Vietnam (maybe earlier wars? I only saw a video of this happening in Vietnam) would turn their shotgun into a makeshift bong where they'd rip the bowl by the ejection port, and then blow down the tube while another soldier sucks the smoke out of the end of the barrel.
That's where that came from apparently, we just don't use weapons anymore :P
sserium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โI donโt want to be a broken recordโ Meaning someone doesnโt want to keep repeating what theyโre saying, like how a broken record would repeat the same thing.
Calling out "shot gun" to get the front seat. Originally riding "shot gun" ment being up next to the driver on the wagon and actually having a shot gun.
"Rolling down the windows" in a car. My older model still has the crank but I'm willing to bet in a few years you'd be hard pressed to find a kid that knows where the saying comes from.
To have a quarrel with someone is basically to attack each other with crossbows, quarrel referred to a particular type of bolt head.
Similarly "out of the blue" is an archery term, fairly self explanatory given the context.
As is "keeping it under your hat" when you're aware bow strings were made from dried animal produce and would lose their tension when wet, hence archers would keep a spare under their hats.
My favorite is that one of the origins of the two fingers hand gesgure (similar to Churchill's victory V) comes from archers taunting one another as any captured could be effectively and permanently disarmed by cutting them off.
"Analogue" comes from audio recording, where the literal vibrations of the voices going into the mic would be amplified and etched onto vinyl records. (and before that, wax cylinders)
"Digital", on the other hand, comes from watches, where a traditional watch would use the big hand/little hand to display the time on a radial dial, while a digital watch would use, well, numerical digits to display that time.
Basically, the two terms come from entirely different fields.
Also, "air conditioning" comes from "yarn conditioning"; AC originated in the textile industry, as it made it easier to keep cloth production quality independent out the outdoors air quality.
Although itโs true that there were โdigitalโ watches in the early 80โs, the origin of โdigitalโ does not come from that.
โIn the late 1930s and early 1940s, the work of mathematicians and engineers led to the development of a new type of computing machine. As opposed to earlier analogue devices, which used a continuous quantity (such as voltage) to compute the desired quantity by analogy, these new machines operated upon data that was represented as a series of discrete digits. For example, in such a system the letter A might be represented as the binary sequence โ01000001โ (as it is in the ASCII encoding scheme).โ
"intelligence quotient": It used to be a quotient, but it's not anymore (quotient = a quantity produced by the division of two numbers).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When sports teams study "film". Come to think of it, the whole film industry, which does a majority of its business without using any actual film whatsoever.
Sysion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we say something was "just a flash in the pan" it related to flint lock firearms. The pan is where the sparks from the flint would land and ignite the charge. Flash in the pan meant the gun had no powder in the barrel and instead of firing, just the priming powder would go off in the pan and nothing would shoot out.
Cut and Paste. You could do that with a typewriter, but I don't think you're supposed to take scissors and paste to a computer screen to get the text right
cchuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's raining cats and dogs.
EDIT: Sorry, I should have explained where this term derived from. In the 1500 and 1600's London and probably most other cities didn't have animal control. So you had a lot of animals that while not domesticated would live among people and of course be fed by people. In those days, many of the cats and dogs would climb onto the roofs of the buildings and live. In London it rains a lot so when it would rain the cats and dogs would fall off the roof and thus the term was born.
444izme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For TVโs. We used to say. โTurn it over to another channelโ or just โturn itโ because you would have to turn the knob to do so.
legice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go ti the tape, gonna tape it... you get it.
Im not a US citizen, yet because of older movies, shows and so on, I use those words when talking to other people in english
Newspaper. Back in olden times, when something "new" happened, it was printed on "papers" that used to be delivered to your doorstep every morning. So a collection of new articles or "news" on papers became "newspapers". Also used to line birdcages, and train puppies.
Movies are still referred to as flicks, i.e. Netflix. The term comes from the early machines that had a quick flickering effect because of the way the film past through the projector.
"Book" your ticket, meaning pay and reserve a seat. Everything is recorded electronically - no longer a master book where this information is kept.
Speaking of which, "record" is Middle English: from Old French record โremembrance,โ from recorder โbring to remembrance,โ from Latin recordari โremember,โ based on cor, cord- โheart.โ The noun was earliest used in law to denote the fact of being written down as evidence. The verb originally meant โnarrate orally or in writing,โ also โrepeat so as to commit to memory.โ
While driving, checking your blind spot with a "head check." You usually look for the car, not the head. I believe it's because cars used to almost always be open.
Using the word "click" when interfacing with your phone! Every time I see a review on YouTube of the latest device or app and the person says "click" it drives me nuts! Only a mouse can "click" please use the word "tap"!
Hit me on the hip - old pager phrase
Catch you on the flip side - old 45 singles phrase
Cyber - use to mean dirty talk in chat rooms. Now Cyber Monday is all about the sales.
I still use the VHS player so I still rewind things.
tatricia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hold your horses" is a term used today, but it was originally used for the horse carriage driver that literally had to hold the horses when they needed to stop or hold the journey.
SonOfNod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging. In the original computers bugs would crawl in and cause shorts in the system. Someone would literally have to debug the computer and get the bugs out.
jfsindel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Snapping" a photo isn't truly correct anymore since everything is digital or on phones. Cameras with film actually made a snapping noise and it's sort of my perception that digital ones only make it that loud because you wouldn't believe the picture took otherwise.
"Ring tone" was an actual "ring" tone but it now has symbolized music or beats that alerts to calls. I don't think kids have heard a real ringtone and maybe you can find a close watch on ringtone downloads.
Same note, we still say "I'll ring him up" or "It's ringing" but truthfully, there's no actually ringing going on. That might be semantics though.
"Really cleaned his clock" I don't hear this outside of boxing anymore but we don't clean clocks or watches anymore (for the youngins, it means someone knocked your ass out flat).
I will say that a friend of mine loves Jim Carrey and we were quoting lines from his movies. The line was "Tone, put on a big ass size 13 and kick it for the homies." A teenage cousin of mine did not understand it at all, even after we explained it so I guess "kicking it with the homies" isn't a phrase anymore?
Jklopper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window in your car
Numarx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wallpaper
Borkton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of computer terminology is ultimately descended from printing terms.
"Turning" the volume (or the temperature) up or down, even though many people today perform those tasks without rotary dials or knobs.
jjaoyj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Room and Board" is one that's still here, although one could make a case that the room bit is still relevant. The "board" here refers to an actual board that was used like a dining table. Originally, there weren't dining tables, just a giant board of wood on which the various dishes containing food would be placed. This board would be laid across the thighs of everyone sitting down to eat (the chairs would be arranged to balance the board properly). I personally think this might also be the origin of the rule "keep elbows off the table". If the elbows were on the dining board, then the board itself shakes while people eat, making it hard any individual diner to have a comfortable dinner.
"Lightning in a bottle" is another one. It's used to describe an impossible task, the achievement of which would lead to great renown. But when you think about it, it's really just a fancy, poetic definition for a battery. I suppose a capacitor is probably more technically apt as the item being defined, but either way,the phrase is still not really relevant anymore.
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To ring someone up.
Most cash registers are electronic nowadays, and don't make an actual bell sound when you complete a transaction. Older cash registers had a bell that would ring when the drawer opened to make change.
aagpeng ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down windows
Betypan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went through the transition from 5 1/4" floppy disks to 3 1/2" floppy disks, alongside a hard drive, and I've never heard them called a hard disk other than by people that didn't know better. The term is referring to the media inside, not the outer case.
No, it was never called that. It was an incorrect term when it was being used by non-savvy people. It's like someone incorrectly identifying a PC tower as a hard drive. That doesn't mean the tower was ever called hard drive in the grand scheme of things. It wasn't a term that was used and lost it's relevance. I was merely pointing out that 3.5" floppies weren't "called a hard disk until hard drives came along." They were always floppy disks from the start. That said, it doesn't affect your comment regarding the save icon being represented by a floppy disk, that part of it is exactly correct.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shotgun. Referring to riding in the passenger seat. Back in the days of horse drawn carriages, the person riding next to the driver would carry the shotgun for defense. Hence why the seat next to the driver is called shotgun. Since people who drive do not need defending from bandits or wild animals anymore, the original meaning of the term has lost its core relevance.
nl1004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the midwest. Passengers here still carry shotguns lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Psylent0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your elbows off the table. It is said to have come from sailors who would use their elbows to stabilize their plates in rough seas, but typically anyone who felt the need to guard their food while eating.
For cars, the "trunk" used to be an actual trunk attached to the back
k3dabra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely, all language has obscure origins? Its metaphors built on contracted metaphors all the way back to the stone age....Like the verb "to be" comes from the sanskrit "bhu" meaning "to grow" or "make grow".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find myself saying "I read in the paper" even though I really saw it online....I'm old....
nl1004 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always say "I read somewhere..."
FarazR90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down/up the window
The_Gnar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people still refer to photos that were digitally altered as "airbrushed".
"Turning" the volume up or down when there's no knob to turn.
felesroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Miniature.
Today, the word Miniature means something very small, like a dollhouse, but the word derives from pictures painted in medieval manuscripts and, before that, Roman scrolls. These pictures were often illustrative of the text nearby or they showed an author portrait. Regardless, compared to paintings like frescos, which would cover a wall, the paintings in books were very small and hence the word used for a small painting came to mean any very small version of something else.
The word Miniature itself comes from Minium, a mineral used for making red pigment. Paint made from this pigment would be used as a frame around the little pictures in books to separate them from the text, thus giving rise to the word Miniature - a thing within a minium border.
KL1FF0R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up/ down Windows in a car. When we had the hand crank Windows it was accurate. Now we just "switch" up the windows
Shalth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bug -
In 1946, when Hopper was released from active duty, she joined the Harvard Faculty at the Computation Laboratory where she continued her work on the Mark II and Mark III. Operators traced an error in the Mark II to a moth trapped in a relay, coining the term bug. This bug was carefully removed and taped to the log book. Stemming from the first bug, today we call errors or glitches in a program a bug.[9]
Akyrael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going to catch a flick. "Flick" has been outdated for close to a century now. It's from the very first movies that looked like the light was flickering while being played. Because it was. The camera would shut off the light between frames of the movie being played.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is like pretty much standard etymology, but within the last hundred to two hundred years
Bozacke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Very few cars have manual rotary windows, most have power windows. Except roll down the window and let the wind blow back your hair.
ocschwar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blueprint.
It's an old process for making cheap copies of large schematic drawings. Got that: COPIES. If you use "blueprint" to refer to the original master of a drawing, you're using it wrong.
Camera roll. Used to refer to literal rolls of films, now itโs just where your phone keeps your photos.
bgrimsle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the 1800's the most popular form of gambling was a game called 'faro'. Many of its terms are still in use. Poker players will say 'the case Ace' to refer to the last Ace that is not yet in play. It comes from Faro's use of a 'case' that kept track of how many cards of each rank were left as the game played out, which was important to that game. No one plays Faro anymore but its language still lives.
No_Skilz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just said this to a girl in the bar the other night. She was blabbering on about something while I was watching the game. I asked her to rewind in my attempt to not be rude.
lymaro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's rare for an average person to actually rewind anything nowadays, especially in the context of a video or a song. They aren't actually rewinding anything even though they'll still say they are.
A little bit old school, but nigh, as in "the end is nigh". Nigh had comparative and superlative forms (nigher and nighest). These corrupted into "near" and "next".
German still uses all three forms (nach, nacher und nรคchste).
javoss88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He is finally NIGH!
Jake4251 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto - is repeating something. Early in paper copying to "ditto" was to copy the paper on a hand cranked machine (duplicator). So the action of making the copy was called ditto, but the copy itself was also referred to as a ditto.
ETA: The duplicator was alongside the mimeograph machine, which worked similarly.
The biggest icon would be the save button in Word. Canโt wait for the day my kids ask what it is (for those of you who are youngins, itโs a floppy disk). If you need to know what a floppy disk is, Google it while I go contemplate my impending death from old age.
When people refer to writing you a check (or printing a check at a business for a vendor), they still it โcutting a checkโ, or โIโll cut you a checkโ.
"Rolling" down a window even though many cars now powered windows. There are still cars with manual windows, but there are a good amount of kids out there that never have even seen a window knob...thingy.
Restroom. The term once referred (in the US) to a place for women to literally withdraw and rest out of the public sphere. They could loosen their corsets, breastfeed, freshen cosmetics, etc without being a โvulgarโ sight to onlookers.
Prerolls used to be the part where you let the tape speed up before writing a commercial or film to digi/tape. Now it's what we call those YouTube ads.
Online forms and other types of electronic interfaces often use "radio buttons". They are really hard to describe if you are trying to define them to someone who has never used that old school type of radio
suhayma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hold on, let me tape this." I say it all the time and have to remind myself to use "record" instead.
IAmAlexE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows (except mine are not automatic even though it is a 2008 model. I still roll up the windows and I love it)
"Shotgun" unless you literally ride with a shotgun in the passenger seat, and you're on a protect from damage mission that you will end up doing 5000 times for a little bit of XP and your companion will just whine the ENTIRE TIME about how life is hard and they never get the time they want and then they need help being boosted up a ledge even though at the beginning the jumped up the tallest ledge in the game solo but now they can't walk up a freaking step without your help and boom you failed.
kuz_929 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen kids pick up an older corded phone, look at the buttons and flip out when they see a "hashtag" button. They can't fathom that the pound symbol had meaning before Twitter.
On the flip side of this, my sister and I were talking on the phone and she was getting into her car. She said "hold on, my car is about to pick up". I immediately knew she meant the Bluetooth in her car would transfer from her phone to her car but how odd would that phrase be to hear from someone 10 or 15 years ago??!! "Wait, your car is picking what up??!?"
It what context? I'm older by the the way. Only time I can think of using it anymore is reminiscing about Blockbuster. Maybe watching a dvr, but doesn't come up for me much.
nymo80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use it all the time using Netflix, blu ray..any sort of media really. Anything I watch.
I guess I started using "back that up" over of the years without even realizing it. Rewind makes me think of "please be kind and rewind". Looking back it makes me chuckle about how mad we were when a VHS wasn't rewound. It took like 1-2 minutes tops. Lol
nymo80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've no idea why I haven't let it go. Old habits! :-)
scirio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about Television? If not already, soon it'll not really be television but just a monitor for whatever computer-like device (or maybe built-in) in connected to it.
To pull the string = flush the toilet in norwegian.
It made sense a long time ago when toilets had a water tank by the ceiling so gravity could flush the water down when you pulled a string. What is weird is that everyone says it, even though most people today dont even know why.
I guess it's not really so much a term, but just an observation about technology; "swiping" as we know it today.
A few years back my cousins had come to celebrate christmas with us and we got the whole family together at my grandma's house. I was sitting with my cousin's young daughter looking at some pictures on a regular camera (My mom insisted we take pictures both on my phone and with a regular camera that was already outdated) and I was going through the pictures with the directional button. The camera didn't have a touch screen (but still a digital screen on the back to view pictures) and my little cousin reached out to try to "swipe" through the pictures as you'd traditionally do on a phone/tablet.
It still resonates in the back of my mind because of how quick our habits change in the realm of technology. I mean like damn kid i'm only 25 i don't need to feel old yet.
Pull the chain when referring to flushing a toilet, they used to commonly have the tank high up so the way you would flush the toilet would be by pulling a chain rather than pushing a button or handle. Not sure but this might just be a British thing idk.
pandemik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term came from horse drawn wagons/carriages in the 1800s where you would have a driver to steer the horses and a person sitting to his other side with an actual shotgun used to protect what they were transporting, whether it was people, valuables, or themselves.
I was just reading about Cranberry Morphemes yesterday, they're interesting. A Cranberry Morpheme is a compound word in which one of the words isn't really used anymore. The 'cran' in cranberry, the 'rasp' in raspberry, the 'cob' in cobweb, the 'twi' in twilight, the 'mit' in permit, commit, transmit, etc., the 'ceive' in receive, perceive, deceive, conceive, etc., the 'luke' in lukewarm, are all examples of cranberry morphemes. Those compound words have a half that isn't in the language.
kilorat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Page.
This isn't purely on topic, but I felt like sharing in case it was interesting to anyone.
I told a coworker to page me the address of a customer, and they're like, "Do you mean texting? Nobody has a pager anymore!". I guess I should be glad that a newer word caught on. To me, page is a synonym for SMS.
mrmoo232 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Track" when talking about music, I.e. "put the next track on". I assume this terminology comes from vinyl records because they utilise a needle which sits inside a track full of microscopic ridges which cause the needle to vibrate thus creating sound.
khast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Multi track recordings, think 8-track. (However in the recording process, each part is recorded independently, then combined in the finishing process.)
I enjoy the floppy disc โsaveโ icon personally. Also, most of the kids in my classes donโt know what a walkman is... thought that was unfortunate.
Onemax1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife (62) still refers to 'the chain being pulled' when she means flushing the cistern in the bathroom. In 40 years of marriage we have never had a cistern that required anyone to pull a chain to flush, but it still sticks from when she a young girl I suspect.
The word "epic." It's dropped off pretty hard since the mid 2000s, but it's supposed to mean something that is massive beyond belief in it's length, story-telling, reach, etc...
Cell Phones / Cellular Phones
The term is a bit of a misnomer, if not obsolete.
Cellular technology original referred to the layout of network / relay towers and the corresponding coverage area, that when visualized, resembled an actual cell. The term really has nothing to do with the phone itself, but rather the physical layout of the network towers.
Even then, that principle is no longer completely valid.
dnizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the windows." Today I was chaperoning a six grade field field trip. The 11 and 12 year olds wanted to "roll down the windows" on the bus because it's hot (in Texas). I don't think any of them ever rolled down a window.
Play. It used to be something that musicians did and somehow made it onto piece of technology as if you're allowing for improv and performance when really it's just a recording and nobody is contributing the the live nature of intellectual 'playing'.
Somehow 'play' has become some sort of synonym for 'go' or 'start'.
Hell it makes more sense to say I'm going to go play my car, then say go play a CD.
On the beginning there were literally bugs messing around in the transistors of a machine, nowadays, we even have a ladybug icon for a code syntax error ๐ค
oxy160 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know this one is in the stages of death, but, "roll the window up/roll up the window" referring to the handle in a car used to literally roll the window up or down.
Biggest difficulty in the summer without AC trying to reach to all four doors and get each individual window rolled down
"Turn on" and "shut off" these are terms that are still used but literally obsolete. When you "shut" off a light you are no longer closing a gas valve.
In movies the criminal always asks "Are you wearing a wire?"
Before tape recorders and radio transmitters were small enough to conceal easily, the only concealable recording device would work by magnetically saving the audio onto a thin strand of wire. The audio quality was terrible because the wire is prone to stretching and corrupting itself. That's why nobody records on wire anymore.
Highly recommend "America's Secret Slang". It was on the History Channel and you can probably find it on YouTube. Hours of great stuff.
Fizzlerr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In computer science when a storage device is made visible and accessable to the operation system it is called "mounting" the storage medium. For example your USB drive probably mounts automatically when you insert it.
This is an old term from back when all storage was on heavy tape reels that needed to be physically mounted on the machine to be read and written to.
Same reason we say "computer bug" or "hang up the phone". The language developed when our the function the technology performed was new. Then, new tech comes along that replaces it, but the language changes because changing what you call the same feature is more work.
Similar idea behind "sunrise" and other weird language features as well. I doubt we would have come up with that term if we started with the knowledge we have now.
ZippoS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked /r/linguistics about this a couple years back. These words are examples of semantic change, or more specifically, semantic expansion
A lot of words follow this, especially those associated with technology are still use today... because they have changed relatively recently.
Taping or filming something, rewind... it's really not that long ago that we used VHS tapes for everything.
We still dial numbers on a phone, despite them no longer having rotary dials.
We copy, cut, and paste on computers, whereas a couple decades ago, you'd physically cut and paste pieces of paper to make an ad or document.
The term font derives from Middle French fonte "[something that has been] melted; a casting". The term refers to the process of casting metal type at a type foundry.
The terms to boot or reboot a computer originates from the early says when the process was likened to an old saying, "picking yourself up by the bootstraps" โ referring to a horseman who lifts himself off the ground by pulling on the straps of his boots. This set of initiating punch cards was called "bootstrap cards". Thus a cold start was called booting the computer up.
Devices are turned on or off, from when we used to physically turn a switch.
Music tracks used to be different physical tracks on recording material.
"roll up the window(s)" for cars etc... when is the last time a new vehicle in North America came with roll up windows standard or optional after 2002?
The audio world is full of them. Now theyโre not necessarily 100% obsolete, since people still roll tape and cut records on vinyl, but even in fully digital studios they still hang around.
Phrases like โWeโre rollingโ obviously refers to tape, and โwe just cut a recordโ goes back to physically cutting vinyl on a cutting lathe. โCuttingโ or โsplicingโ something (in editing) comes from when your edits were actually physically on tape. To โpunch inโ a recording over the top of an already-recorded part is a little more ubiquitous, but it did used to be a matter of having your tape op โpunch inโ and then โpunch outโ the record button on the remote.
Similarly, a lot of the functions in audio software or digital mixing desks just kept the old names from tape machines. The โtransportโ functions (locate/shuttle, rewind, play) just came straight off the tape machine remote, where they โtransportedโ the tape. Any input/output rearranging you do is still a โpatch,โ despite not having a physical patch bay. You still record-arm or record-safe tracks, despite not having to actually engage write heads anymore. Some DAWโs like Pro Tools let you set VCA masters to control groups, despite Pro Tools obviously not even needing a voltage control amplifier.
Canโt tell you everyone calls everyone else โcatโ though... Those cats are odd
Iโm only 37 but it used to be album, tape, and then CD. Now we have MP3s, downloads, and digital copy. Iโve decided to be stick with album to cover every thing music related.
Iโve worked with a number of teens and young adults over the years that laugh when I describe an album. Depending on where some kids grow up, albums just arenโt a part of their lives.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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lonemonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We always called it beige-box but the concept is identical
avroots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and Paste. Similarly if you work in photoshop you may become familiar with terminology like โdodgingโ and โburningโ to lighten or darken areas of an image. Cut and paste refers to literally physically cutting parts of a document and gluing it to new drafts. Dodging (making lighter) and burning (making darker) refer to darkroom techniques used with photo prints with an enlarger where you manipulate the light exposure on your print to change the final image.
I miss, sometimes, dodging and burning in the darkroom. Plus locking myself in there for a couple of hours at the paper to get away from the rest of the staff :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โmotor carriageโ (now just โcarโ) as opposed to horse drawn . Not so much a nickname as necessary disambiguation.
Ginkodes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs not really a word, but most people still use the pinky and thumb out thingy handsign for โcall meโ or signaling to use the phone, even tough we donโt have cellphones with antennas anymore
stravant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Drivers" even for computer hardware that's entirely solid state and doesn't have any motors / other moving parts to drive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, a lot of computer terminology is meant to be symbolic I think. Same thing with terms like "kernel", "slave" and "master"
Khelek7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the Nautical Terminology post below, there is a whole slew of phrases that refer to how people think that are left over from various ages of technology!
Steam Power:
* Steamed up.
* Hot headed.
* Let off some steam.
Electricity/Early Computing
* Short Circuit
* Brain fried
* Caught in a Loop
There are some others from pre-steam, but at the moment I am blanking on them... (maybe that is one?). Its interesting as these phrases enter our lingo with the technology, and how we map our minds on to the new new thing. Then still use these phrases even though we don't interface with the technology so much anymore.
Dibiddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a director, I say โfade to black, roll cart.โ The technical director then pushes a button to fire off the computer. โCartsโ for commercials havenโt been used for a very very long time.
Videotape. Video used to be analog media (e.g. video tape, 8-track tape, audio cassette tape, etc.), hence linear, requiring rewinding and fast forwarding. Digital media has eliminated the requirement of fast forwarding and rewinding, as it is non-linear (able go to any point in the media with a click of button, and not having to wait to scroll through to a point on the "tape").
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videotape it.
Waitdev_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โI bags thisโ Iโve heard kids still saying this. It was from mid last century. Woman would put their handbag on a chair and that was a way of claiming that seat at a movie, dance, show etc
jbsgc99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In show calling for events we still say 'go vt' even though it's all digital.
halkyra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to google RECORD after seeing your rewind. I was hoping its origins had to do with rope but...
Middle English: from Old Frenchย recordโremembrance,โ fromย recorderย โbring to remembrance,โ from Latinย recordariย โremember,โ based onย cor,ย cord-ย โheart.โ The noun was earliest used in law to denote the fact of being written down as evidence. The verb originally meant โnarrate orally or in writing,โ also โrepeat so as to commit to memory.โ
โSaved by the bellโ. This term actually originated centuries ago, when we lacked the technology to determine whether someone was dead or not. To prevent folks being buried alive, people would be buried with a bell on the tombstone and a string going through the ground and into their coffin, which would ring if the body moved, letting gravediggers know that the person was still alive. Hence the term, โSaved by the bell.โ
arcxjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people don't realize this, but the heartbeat wasn't invented until 1936.
Almost everything? Etymology is basically one set of humans relating to their environment attempting to find utility in communication and doing anything they can to achieve it.
MgFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Broadcasting" was originally something you did with seeds.
hvyboots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The clock is ticking.
Sconn13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not necessarily a "term", but the floppy disc used as the save button. Kid's just know that icon as the save button, but not what it actually is.
xerker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The print screen key on a keyboard was originally for printing out a copy of everything on screen.
Now it's just for screenshots. It's not a coined term but it certainly has evolved from its original use.
Freeagnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taped
odimus32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dvali ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a word but the save icon in almost all software is still a floppy disk even though they haven't been in common usage for well over a decade, and many computer users have never seen one.
b0atFan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A computer bug. We call it this, because sometimes old computers, the room-sized ones, sometimes wouldnโt work properly because bugs would crawl into them.
Sammy1Am ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "bug" actually predates computers, and predates the first recorded instance of an actual bug being found in a computer.
Rolling up the windows. With almost all cars having electric windows nowadays, the term is kinda outdated. Some of us still remember having to reach halfway across the car to crank the knob while swerving through traffic to let the bee out of your car
judgej2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter mentioned something about our hoover the other day. We don't have a Hoover. We have a Dyson and a Meile. We have never had a Hoover in the house for her entire life, and I've always talked about the vacuum cleaner (yes, fun times) but it's still got that name left over from two generations ago.
They're losing relevance. They're still here in good quantity, but they'll the way of the blockbuster video rental stores in 5 or so years. It's kind of neat watching it happen.
In current times, you can order pretty much anything online and just have it Brought to you. This is actually fairly significant in the long term. As brick and mortar stores become less and less relevant, it'll have huge impact over things like city planning and land development. There will always be stores, just like how you sometimes see privately operated video stores, but they'll be a novelty.
Think: people can either take out a massive risky business loan to start up a business that'll just get crushed my Walmart or Amazon, or they just sell stuff on eBay, Etsy or even Amazon itself. Physical locations are being allocated to the Internet.
This is important, because we're going to need space to accommodate more and more people as we inch closer to another billion people.
Hell, give it enough years, and the idea of "going to work" will be going down the hallway from your bedroom to your office.
The idea of "checking out" will become obsolete. The shopping cart will go the way of the floppy disk. A universally understood symbol from a bygone era.
That's the way I see it, anyways.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's just a lot of stuff humans use on a daily basis where waiting 2-3 days for shipping just isn't viable though. Like food. Check out is here to stay man
โTurn offโ the light referred to actually turning off the gas that used to be used to light a home. Iโm in a class at my university currently where all we do is explore this sort of thing. Itโs called the power of precedent.
moo4mtn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone. The majority of calls are ended by a button, not physically dropping a phone on its base.
Ggodhsup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang" up the phone.
Bowlamat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up/down the window.โ Very few new vehicles still have a hand crank.
BenLoren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In TV production (UK at least) any part of a live show recorded prior to broadcast is called a VT because the pre-recorded segment used to be on Video Tapes. Now it is, of course, digital but "VT" is still around.
Also, lower thirds or supers can be referred to as Aston / Aston Straps because that used to be the name of the machine that made them.
Roll up the window. With the exception of a few old vehicles that are still on the road, most cars no longer have a manual crank to adjust the height of the window.
Literally a setting on a machine which causes it to not "fault".
I've been told that 'default' has French origins and is not a root word 'fault' with the prefix 'de-', but seeing as 'fault' is short for 'falter' and French and English share common Latin origins, I'm disinclined to believe the 'default' doesn't literally me to remove faults from a machine.
Trell3k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Default is the basic setting programmed by the manufacturer de - without, and fault - failure
A brass plate was used to hold cannon balls on some ships. It was called the monkey. In colder weather, it would contract, causing cannon balls to fall off.
arcxjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard it only tastes def when you pour it on ice, though.
k3nnyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Paraphernalia" used to mean the property owned by a married woman.
Scoopie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We Still "dial" telephone numbers, even though it's no longer a dial.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say Iโm going to โtapeโ a tv show even though Iโm 30 and have had DVR for years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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arcxjo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma died about a year and a half ago. Up until the day before, she had a single (once-)blank VHS cassette that she would record Days of Our Lives on every day, then rewind it on Friday and begin taping over on Monday.
The astute reader will notice I never mentioned anything about watching it.
โBugsโ In computer terms. My grandfather used to work with facility-sized computers in the 70s and there would routinely be literal moths nesting in the computers.
jpef0704 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
Most people know how the phrase originated but it would be reasonable for someone who has never ridden a car with roll up windows to not know how the term originated.
Grunvagr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tape it". Used like DVR'ing / TIVO/ or recording something to watch later. VHS tapes were used everywhere in the 80s-90s.
"I'm missing Must-See-Tv tonight!!!!! I guess I'll have to tape it."
Source: Am old, apparently.
ithilkir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tape" something off the TV (might be a more British one)
I asked my 5 year old what does "rewind" mean? She said it means to go back to the beginning. I thought that was a good answer for someone who has never seen a cassette or VHS. But I also realized in gaming we use "rewind" time as a game mechanic like in Dirt 2 so the concept is still there it just does not refer to tapes anymore.
Threshold. It used to be literally a raised portion of the door to prevent the straw floor from being tracked out.
DeadRinger was someone who was buried alive due to poisoning (Tomatoes were relatively new to Europe, and the pewter dishes got eaten away by the acid in tomatoes. Combined with drinking, this often lead to black out drunk that looked like death. So when they dug up caskets for re-use, they found claw marks on the roof of some of them. This lead them to install a bell when they buried someone, in case it was a false positive. Someone would have to stay all night after burying someone, to listen for the bell. This spawned 2 other phrases, saved by the bell and graveyard shift.
It is also of note that they moved to a better method of checking to see if someone was dead or not - they'd put them on a table and throw a huge party to see if they would wake.
Cellular refers to the antenna infrastructure. As in a specific tower servers a cell shaped area and if you transition to another tower it serves another cell shaped area. As we are not using a single monolithic antenna to serve the entire region, it is still cellular. The frequency and transmission types don't have anything to do with the concept of cellular networks.
Not exactly the same thing, but the word โbroadcastโ was appropriated for the then new technology, but originally described a way to throw seeds for farming.
Though we still use the term in the athletic sense, itโs use in colloquial speech has become the norm for the aforementioned phrase.
sirgoofs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pickup trucks with 4 wheels in the back instead of just 2 are still referred to as "one tons", even though they can haul around 4 tons. It's just that when they first came out it was a big deal that with the extra tires they could support the weight of one ton of payload.
nerr0t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โroll down the windowsโ
itโs not so common to manually roll a window down as it is to simply push a button
Xeroxing things, the return button on a keyboard, floppy disks... We were just talking about this at work today lol.
Fplata98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In spanish the word "mareo" (motion-sickness) comes from the latin word for sea "Mare". Itยดs belived that is a direct relation of the spanish travels to the new world and the colonies to the spanish society.
Not sure if this really counts but in my area (UK) most of the names derive from Norse words. However, there hasn't ever been any archaeological proof that they were in the area. SO the only proof we have is the names which are still in use and are very similar to Germanic and Dutch words of today.
emrducks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Play that video."
Town10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Correct weight' in reference to money handling.
'That'll be $7.50, sir.'
'Yep, I've got the correct weight.'
It's an old horse racing term. It least that's what the regulars tell me.
Clockwise -- from pre-digital clocks, whose had hands went in a circle. And why in that direction? because that's how time goes around a sundial (in the northern hemisphere).
Log in โ from logbook, a book for recording readings from the chip log, which showed a shipโs speed.
Roll up the window โ from cars with crank handles.
Whet your appetite โ from whetstone, used (when wetted) for sharpening blades.
''Pulling'' a shot of espresso. Back in the days they use steam pressure to extract espresso and had to pull an lever. nowadays most machines are automatic with a button.
The trunk of a car. Back when, they used to be actual trunks attached to the back of a car, not built in.
five01st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone is one I hear often
Jessee75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something being "beyond the pale" refers to an ancient use of pale as a boundary marker that may date as far back as the ancient Celts but definitely dates to Old English usage.
AUGA3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fax. Most businesses now use a web based service to send a fax, and the receiver usually is too. Itโs just that some industries still see a fax as a secure method of transmission,like for medical docs.
BlackV8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best answer is literally the word "literally"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the save icon
TieWebb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filming
rmeas002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hysterical usually means something was extremely funny now.
But it literally means someone suffering from hysteria, a person suffering from uncontrolled and extreme emotion. Female hysteria was once a medical condition and it comes from "hysterika" which is Greek for uterus. Women would sometimes be admitted to insane asylums and even had hysterectomies performed on them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being on tenter hooks (usually said as tender hooks now) was a reference to children walking on cloth to stretch it. The cloth was held on hooks over machinery, if it broke the child faced serious injury and so was very worried.
Shutter. Cameras now, at least ones that don't use film don't have shutters, but a lot do make a shutter clicking noise and have shutter icons. I'm 21 and worked with film cameras in a high school class. I don't think people know how much work went into developing film or how easily you could mess stuff up. I can only imagine being handed an entire roll of vacation photos to develop. Fuck that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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5Skye5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rewind refers to actually winding the tape of a VHS back to where it started... aka โre-windingโ. There is no physical tape to rewind in any of our devices anymore.
The term "just desserts." Dessert in this context refers to something someone has earned-- think the same origin as "deserve." It's used exclusively to refer to post-meal treats and not in the literal sense anywhere else.
You're mixing up two words. Although the pronunciation is the same as the word meaning post-meal treats, the expression referring to what someone DESERVEs is "just deserts". Spelled the same as the hot sandy place, but with a different pronunciation.
Instead, "dessert" meaning what you eat after the end of a meal is a calque from French "desservir", meaning "to remove the dishes from a table".
I donโt know anyone who answers the phone like that, unless they donโt know the number/itโs blocked. They usually just say โHiโ the way you would in person.
Ooh, I have a good one. Correct this if itโs wrong, I got it from a secondhand source, but the term โnimrodโ originally meant hunter. It was used this way initially in the Bible, and fell out of style for a while. However, in Looney Toons, bugs bunny would call Elmer Fudd a nimrod, ironically, since he was literally a hunter, but it took on the meaning as someone who was an idiot.
"Log on." I hear this in commercials all the time. "Log on to www.ilivein1995.com to learn more." No one "logs on," this isn't Prodigy. I'm always connected. Just say "Visit www.iliveinthepresent.com"
A 'threshold' I believe in super-old houses/huts was a length of timber along the entrance that would literally 'hold' the 'thresh' (straw) that was used as a floor covering for comfort.
There are a lot in finance. They say a trade "hit the tape" when it is recorded officially by an exchange, because there used to be literally a ticker tape they were recorded on. There's another - a stock has a "ticker symbol" though of course there are no tickers anymore. Nonstandard trading venues are called "OTC [Over The Counter]" because there used to be store front brokerages where you could put your orders in with the man behind the counter if you weren't entitled to trade at the actual exchange. When you send money between financial institutions it's called "wiring" because they used to be standardized telegraph instructions that went over a wire. Etc.
The saying "You sound like a broken record" - a lot of young people don't know what it's like to listen to a scratched record that keeps repeating itself.
Photographs. The word was created in the 1800's, roughly meaning from "drawing with light" (sourced from the Greek language.)
The process at this point in time involved exposing asilver-plated copper sheet to iodine vapor, creating a layer of light-sensitive silver iodide; exposing it in the camera for a few minutes; developing the resulting invisible latent image to visibility with mercury fumes; then bathing the plate in a hot salt solution to remove the remaining silver iodide, making the results light-fast.
We still use "photographs" even though the process and quality has changed so much.
This one is impressive because even to some of the kids too young to have ever sat on a car with lever windows (I know, I feel old too), both the term and the accompanying gesture are universal.
coberst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite is roll the windows down. I told my niece that and she asked what do you mean? I felt old.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mean," in the sense of being unkind. In its original sense it meant "common" (a definition that sort of persists in math), and meant something indicative of people of lower
or "common" social classes.
RylandoS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
welniok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christian comes from ฮงฯฮนฯฯฮนฮฑฮฝฯฯ which means follower of Christ, so if it really meant someone like a Christ, then it just came back to it's original meaning.
Hanging up the phone, from when you physically hung the ear piece back on the microphone stand.
Just wouldnโt be right to say โdonโt you dare press the red phone button on me!โ
You know that this expression is actually an oxymoron? It was used to make fun of anyone who thought that government was inefficient, through free-market capitalism alone you could literally pull yourself up by your boots, which doesnโt make sense, and thatโs the point.
demoran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Threshold - a board of wood placed by the door to 'hold the thresh' in your house, thresh being a common form of flooring in the middle ages comprising of hay/straw/reeds that could be easily replaced once muddied by filthy medieval types
Goddam, I'll never put my faith in a National Trust tour guide again. I was equally gutted last week to find out Corduroy didn't mean 'the King's cord'.
seredin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a phone, Cranking a car, Shooting the bull (people used to actually shoot a bull every time they met for a conversation to appease the hero, Ron Swanson"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine called me out on being old when I said I "taped" something on TV (was actually a DVR recording). I had to remind him that he was the same age as me, along with an obligatory "fuck off".
HairyJo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a mountainous region I still have to cycle through three different, albeit pre set, stations to listen to my radio over an 80km drive. I'd say stay tuned is not yet out of vogue.
Really? I never used that, aside when talking about actual video cassettes. But there's a friend of mine who used to say "CD" when talking about any optical format, including DVD and Blu-Ray, and at first he didn't believe me when I told him that not every video game on an optical disc was on an actual CD. He also used to call DS cartridges "cassettes". Oh, and he was born in 1995.
mavieo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear it allllll the time. TV, family, etc.
ojoemojo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down/up the windows. We don't roll them down/up anymore, we just push a button and they go.
Roll up/down the window. I reme.mber being a little kid and thinking that that phrase woud be obsolete soon, but we still say it even thought now we use a button to roll up the car windows.
Oobinoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video Taping - everything is saved via Cards/HDDs now so saving a video to a tape is kind of dead and gone.
"Rolling down the windows in your car" is one I'm going to have fun explaining to my kids eventually
RJ9225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Videotaping" when talking about recording video on a cell phone. I still say it from time to time myself though.
dmoore13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not one that's used "every day", but along the same theme, my German grandmother used to occasionally say "put out the lights". I'm thinking her brain must have been set to use that terminology in a time and place where candles and lamps were a more common source of light.
balls4xx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blow off steam. It's been a while since we routinely used steam engines for anything other than electricity generation.
exempli gratia: "Blow off some steam, Bennet."
-John Matrix in Commando
"cellphone" still applies. A cellular radio network is a series of transmitters/receivers each serving a small area called a cell. Sure, modern day smartphones do a hell of a lot more than phone calls, but they still communicate primarily via a cellular network.
I would argue that the act of pouring someone a drink and saying "Say when" then getting the response "When" is so ingrained in our culture that it is no longer seen as a joke, but as just the common practice for that situation.
The term "taping" was used for recording a show with a VCR, which made sense because you were putting the show onto a tape. Today I still hear people use it when recording onto a DVR.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ringtone, old phones used to have bells that would "ring". Phones these days just play audio samples (yes, some of them are bells).
The Start and Select buttons on video game controllers. In the past they were often literal functions to the game being played such as scrolling a menu or starting the game.
No offence but Americans these days overuse them way too much. I wouldnโt be surprised if some teenagers canโt speak a single sentence without โawesomeโ or โcool.โ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure words like this in all languages
MCDevoG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Converter instead of remote for your home entertainment devices. It might just be her in Ontario. The first way of switching. Channels from your couch was a device called a converter attached to a cable. It actually converted something to give you 28 channels instead of 13. People still constantly say give me the converter when they mean the remote control.
Typing used to be printing letters on paper. Then came the type writer which let you print them as you go. Now we type on a keyboard and most of what we write will never get printed.
MpVpRb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once a word becomes popular, it persists..for a long time, even long after the context becomes obsolete
EvlDave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa always told me that "The coast is clear" was a term from the bootlegging days.
Valmond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell-O
Or Fuck (Fornication Under Consent of the King, plates on the doors of bedrooms of some English Kings castle)
And of course , you SUCK( a boat term to describe how much your boat 'sucks' the water when moving forward, making that big hole behind it(on the time of sail ships). Bigger suck equals a slower boat all other parameters the same. You suck = you boat slow AF
Rolling down the window. I asked a kid to roll down the window in my car and he didnโt know how to because the windows had the handle and not the button.
told-you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your car window
koolbus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
emjaysea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shoot video now and then. It's hard to talk about it without using terms that have no basis in modern video work, like rewind, as you mentioned, and footage, b-roll, clip, and no doubt more in not thinking of.
Goldving ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tapes are still used all over the place, rewind is still relevant. They're cheap and hold a ton of data, so they're a popular method of backing up data in a corporate environment.
People of all wakes of life use it mindlessly. And is seen as a good manors to use it. I'm sure I won't be possessed by a demon if someone doesn't bless me after I sneeze.
Dodge and burn in Photoshop are named after a technique used in darkrooms while enlarging on paper.
After the first exposure you would use a piece of paper with a hole in it to expose only certain parts more than the rest - "burning" them made only those parts darker.
"Dodging" is the opposite. During the first exposure you would keep light away from certain spots. Often round pieces of paper attached to a stick were used which still can be seen in the photoshop tools icon.
rshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but the save icon is still a floppy disk.
I wish the โroll down the windowโ and โhang up the phoneโ people would read the farking thread before posting the same thing for the 500th time!!!
conrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a large number of English terms derived from baseball. While not quite outdated, they may as well be given the number of people who use them compared to knowledge of baseball.
In emails, to CC somebody. CC stands for "carbon copy," which used to be a literal thing when people needed to letters written on pieces of paper.
Also, when you get a phone call, the phone "rings." Ringtones still refer to this.
brinazee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard people start using "Courtesy Copy" for CC. Its meaning may change over time. But, yeah, I agree on the "Carbon Copy" being the original.
dave70a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"She hung up on me"
unwise32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carbon Copy (CC) and Blind Carbon Copy (BCC) are holdovers from when carbon paper was used for making duplicates of written or typed (typewriter) text.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rolling down the window
danitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Making a "cut" in film or audio editing (as in "director's cut") comes from when you would have to physically cut the reels of film and tape them together to create the final product.
iPerfuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
duffry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, I've gone a fair way down the responses and not seen this so posting it.
Cut and Paste.
I used to work in a pre-press department for the local newspaper between the times of raised letterpress and fully digital. We would print the stories on bromide paper which gave very high contrast and lay out the pages. Sometimes this was a full page at a time as there were basic word processors used (Quark Express iIRC); often it was individual stories in single column widths.
We would then run this bromide paper through a roller machine to apply melted wax to the back of it and apply it to broad sheets of paper that the pages would be laid up on. If the story filled the page we would take out a scalpel, cut under the last line, carry the remainder over to the next page (yes, sometimes on a clipboard) and then paste it to the new sheet with the still tacky wax.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FILM. People say "film a movie" even though most people shoot digital now.
And don't forget the save icon in your word processor. Looks like a 3.5" floppy disk. Only people I know using those still run lighting consoles.
KeenX72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On film sets, when the camera starts recording we say "speed" or "speeding". With old cameras that actually used film you had to wait for the reels to spin up to speed (24fps) before it was actually recording. Now we use digital camera that record instantly.
I think "bury the hatchet" is beginning to see itself out, but I hear it quite often anyways. I feel like people are more inclined to say "settle the issue" or "put it to rest" but all three are quite common with adults.
VIIIMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just bought a brand new work truck with roll up windows.
VIIIMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No shit? I seriously haven't seen a manual window on a vehicle in years. Not including vintage cars of course. I assumed all new models came with electric.
maswell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoddy was cloth manufactured from scraps. They ground it in a mill and then created new cloth. The quality wasnโt as good as the original cloth, thus clothing made from it wouldnโt last as long. We still refer to things not made well or of lower quality as โshoddyโ.
mong0038 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stating engine power in HP and light in candle strength.
bhardin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fruit โroll-upโ. Most people roll down. Also, not made from fruit.
Not sure if this has been mentioned here yet, but the phrase going "over the top" came from WWI and was used to describe the act of charing over the parapet of a trench to launch a wave attack against the enemy lines.
I have come WAY too late to this, but oh well. I was once told on a tour of Salisbury cathedral that the term โtop-dogโ and โunderdogโ originated there. The โdogโ was a tool used to hold the beams of wood slightly open when they were being chopped lengthways to stop the saw sticking. The saws were a two man affair, one on top, one underneath. Being on top was obviously preferable due to the notable lack of sawdust to the face, hence, top-dog. And vice versa. 85% sure itโs bullshit but who knows!
Dylanhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at your phone. Symbols for email (envelope), voicemail (tape). Even the call button is usually a silhouette of an old landline telephone. There's loads of stuff we still cling on from the past to illustrate current tech.
Press office - not all PR /communications departments still call themselves a 'press office's but it's not really 'The press' calling then now. most of us don't work for sonewhere that has a press. Now it's online journalists, broadcast journalists, 'content producers' etc
Xerox since the company is gone but people still call copying stuff Xeroxing. I'm a prime offender of saying I'm going to "FedEx Kinkos" even tho I don't think there are any combo fed ex kinkos anymore lmao
'Hacking' used to involve physically cutting (hacking) into phone or cable wires. I'm sure that this method is still used in some cases, but most of the time people picture hacking as a guy at a computer.
BCECVE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Black balled, Getting the Third Degree. Mason terms. To get into a Mason lodge applicants are voted on by putting either a black ball or a white ball into a box. Two black balls is not good. Third degree is a level most Mason attain. Requires rituals and memorization.
FNFALC2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window, Hang up to the phone...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in dutch we say dickblack (pik zwart) when describing something really dark but this is because pek (tar) used to be pronounced as pik (current day meaning for dick) the whole dick thing just stuck around (hehe) so we still say dickblack instead of tarblack.
When people say "roll down the windows" while they are in a car, this one blew my mind once when someone actually explained to me that people used to have physically roll down the windows in order to open them
I'm in my 20s and what blows my mind is that some people are too young to have been in a car without power windows. Plenty of old cars are still around without them so I'd figure at least everybody knows a friend who drives an old base model Civic or Mustang or something.
Older generations of cars used to have cranks that you manually rolled down the window with. Nowadays most cars have a button you push to move the side windows up/down.
Not really a term, but I'm incorporating a record scratch in a video to indicate the abrupt halting of a scene
fig623 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phone.โ
clemoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm shocked that no one has brought up 'my phone is ringing'. Phones used to have bells. Now they don't. Actually, they haven't in decades, well before cell phones. We still use the reference to describe when someone is trying to contact us via voice. I guess I'm old enough to recognize this, even most thirty year-olds might not even connect the reference.
Log in/on originates from a piece of heavy wood, attached to a knotted rope, which was being thrown out of the board to determine the speed of a vessel by its captain, which was subsequently entered into the so-called logbook.
gerryf19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone number. My brother in law was showing his daughter an old Rotary phone. And she slapped her forehead and said that's why they call it dialing.
Me too, man! I have a Norwegian Etymology Dictionary, even! I mostly google "[word] etymology", but sometimes I actually look it up in the book. It's quite pleasing to read the history of a word.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"camera ready". In print advertising, I believe they used to take a picture of the assembled ad in order to get it ready for the publication. If its 'camera ready', no such assemblage is needed. We still refer to ads that come to us ready to go as 'camera ready'.
osirhc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of video terms. "Filming" or even "shooting" when it comes to capturing video. Everything has been digital for quite some time yet these terms relate back to when video was still all film. If you wanted to be nitpicky you would say "recording video" nowadays. Referring to a video as a "clip." Even the blade tool in FCP and the cutting tool in Premiere relate back to when film editing was literally cut and spliced together. While it could be argued that those terms are still relevant to digital video editing, since you are technically still cutting (sometimes) digital assets - interestingly, these terms predate the programs themselves.
When I ask my students if they watch tv when they are at home they look at me crazy, 'who still watches tv?'. I use it to refer to all types of screen entertainment at home but damn.
And technically, you're right - it's still "television", even if the feed signal stems from the Internet, rather than from the air or land cable (which incidentally is via cable). "Tele-" means from a distance - which is true for stuff on the Internet.
There are lots of obsolete terms that stay in use. They still make "films" even though their digital. I guess it would be awkward to call movies "hard drivers." We still "tape" our TV shows on our DVRs. I try to remember to say, "I DVDed that show...but its 2 extra syllables, so most still prefer "tape." When you call someone, you still "dial" the phone, even though the rotary phone died a couple decades before the cell phone. The key for connecting the call on my flip-phone about 10 years was labeled "dial."
BaubNull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Don't turn that dial..." referring to the dial on a television to change the channel.
koryface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โWiretappโ
njgura87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found a box of "brand new" floppy disks in the cupboard above my new desk. I plan to preserve it to show children it's not just a weird icon! It was a real thing!
I426Hemi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless your an enthusiast or drive an older car for other reaons, you probably have electric car windows, I've always wondered how long it will be till kids don't know why we say "Roll up the windows." Since windows don't really roll anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but you don't hang up the receiver (also, your "receiver" is both the receiver and the transmitter, in one object) in a vertical fashion on a fork=P
yeahok97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" up the window.
starcrud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watergate, or just adding the suffix -gate to something makes it known as a scandal. Watergate was the name of the complex that blew the lid off of illegal activity in the Nixon administration.
Yes, but that's the only exception. "Alcoholic" is a noun made into an adjective by adding the "-ic" suffix. The base word is still "alcohol" - so when people say "workaholic", they forget that the word "workahol" does not exist in any reality (well, we don't know that for sure, but certainly not in our reality).
Rolling the car windows up/down. I just got rid of my 2001 neon and it had manual windows and door locks. It was amazing how many young people had never seen a manual roll down window.
I have a 1993 Ford F-150 that still has the window you have to crank down. When I got it, my sister was 7 (thereโs a big age gap). The first time she saw me use it, she gasped and said โOhhhhh. THATโS why itโs called โrollingโ the windows down.โ She thought it was weird.
TheGarp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll up\down the window....' in a car.
I bought a 63 comet and took my kids for their first ride in it, and they had no clue how to get the windows down because we have always had power windows in our cars. I told my daughter to grab the window crank and start turning it, and she was amazed and said... "OH.. THAT'S what you guys mean when you say 'roll down a window' ".
A record or an album. They are rare to have physical copies now much less a record that plays music with a needle.
pjjtlc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial. As in to dial the phone. Phones haven't had dials in quite a while.
shylocxs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going to film it!
dinghead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radio buttons on you GUI are named for car radios which had physical buttons which would move the tuner to a preset position and also un-select the button that was pushed previously (which is the GUI part)
Beyond- a vestige of yonder, which means neither here nor there. Here indicate where the speaker is and there is the listener's location. Nowadays people use there to encompass both yonder and there. The be in beyond probably came from by. By yonder oak tree --> beyond the oak tree. Hmm the meaning changed somewhat
Holy shit, I never realized where the word "rewind" came from.
I'm old enough to have grown up with VHS too.
caz- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people have mentioned phone related things like "hang up", "dial", etc., but I think the word "phone" itself is in a similar category. Even though a phone is often used for making a call, it's really a multi-functional miniature personal computer. It's only an accident of history that we call it a phone, and that's because it evolved from something that was only used for making calls. The device we call a phone today, could have just as easily evolved from calculators, pagers, cameras, or any of a number of other small electronic devices.
We could very easily be calling these things "calculators", "cameras", or even "gameboys", if things had gone differently.
q-pa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably been said some other time in this thread, but โrolling down the windowsโ as older cars (and some current cars) had a crank to roll down the window. Now itโs just an electric button
Roll the windows down. Car windows were operated by a kind of handle where you had to turn it into a circular motion to lower the windows. They're still seen today in old cars, but most cars these days have buttons that you press down to lower the windows. We still use the term "roll" even though we don't do the rolling motion anymore, though.
merecido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radio buttons on a web page. Remember old radios where you could only physically have one button pressed in at a time? They're clever mechanical devices but not sure if people <40 get the reference.
Chrisfrd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When a phone user โtapesโ something with their phone. Back when people had moving magnetic tape in their cameras
Analog film tape is still used quite often for its warmth and soft grain. people like Quinten Tarantino swear by it
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cranking through a math problem - cranking out an answer: the Curta calculator was a mechanical calculator that allowed rapid multiplication and division of large numbers. It looks something like an old pepper mill with a crank on the end. Each turn of the handle would multiply the entered number. Turn it five times and the entered number multiplied by five is displayed.
hperrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The characters we use in a text file to signify a new line (CR+LF in Windows, LF in Unix) were originally meant to instruct a computer terminal's printer to return the printing carriage to the beginning of the line (Carriage Return) and feed the paper by one line (Line Feed).
Jsg999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ocmiami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Over the Top" - It is a World War 1 reference, referring to going over the top of the trench.
BeeCDN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but I spend way longer than I should wondering what young people think the floppy disk icon is every time they save something. Similarly, the mime those of us of a certain age use to denote rolling a car window down must look so weird!
I know this doesn't count as a term, but the same idea applies to the "save" icon on almost every piece of software looking like a floppy disk. We have long since dumped magnetic tape yet we still keep that icon
COPCO2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US, we call our measurement system the 'standard' system, despite metric being used almost everywhere. It's a holdover from the British Empire, when our system was the standard for all English speaking people.
The guys in r/Formula1 have been losing their shit at me all day over that one.
hperrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Parkways used to be roads surrounded by parks, connecting larger developed areas. In many places the parks have all been developed, but the road is still called a parkway.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. They donโt hang anywhere anymore.
'Hang up the phone' referencing when the early home land-lines had phones that were secured to the wall. You would literally 'hang up' the receiver when done with the call - kids will never know why they say 'hang up' when they press the red 'end' button.
relbaneb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. Phones no longer hang.
mystyry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same reason atheists say "goodbye" (which originally meant "God be with ye"). Language retains the meaning of words beyond their original literal meaning.
kdubstep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a fairly recent one: plug in. I don't usually plug in my phone anymore, I put it on a charger (same with my watch). I still refer to it as "plugging my phone in."
hperrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone's talking about the save icon. I'm just sitting here bookmarking all these websites. Chrome changed their icon to a star, but they still call them bookmarks.
The "dashboard" of your car. Originally, the word dashboard applied to a barrier of wood or leather fixed at the front of a horse-drawn carriage or sleigh to protect the driver from mud or other debris "dashed up" (thrown up) by the horses' hooves.
The obvious opposite to rewind, โFast forwardโ!
chad78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fast Forward doesn't refer to anything mechanical - when you Fast Forward a video or song - you are still moving the media forward more quickly than normal. It's not archaic.
This one is my favorite. My daughter came running out to my car waving her hands up and down, I appointed for her to get in the backseat and when she opened the door she said "I wanted you to roll the window down."
I know iโm late to the game in this, but the first one that came to mind for me was, โback to the drawing board.โ
We use it now whenever we have to start something over from scratch and/or in a new direction.
But it refers to architects and engineers who hand-drafted everything at a tilting board or table, and when they had to change something, they had to physically return to their drawing board to start again.
If we were being accurate about it today, weโd say โback to our laptops and CAD.โ
Sinsid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Box Office. Back in the 1700s theatre admission monies were collected in a box and then the box was stored in the office so as to keep the cash secure.
Anything related to "the bell" in school. New schools use an electronic chime rather than ringing an actual bell. My high school didn't even use an electronic bell sound, it was more like the Windows startup tones.
bguy74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Record", but not quite in the obvious way. A record was once an actual record of a thing that literally happened - people playing music live. It is no longer a record, but it's still a record.
Can't tell you how many times the window motors in my jeep broke before I got a new car. It makes such an awful sound too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Change the TV channel" / "tune in to the show". (referring to the time when you'd literally capture TV signal with an antenna on the top of your house, and manually dial in the signal to whatever station you wanted).
On the same line, yelling "on your 6" or "look towards 9 o'clock" are still used, though sparingly, but give it another 5-10 years and outside of the military and movies, i dont think many will understand what you're referring too.
Most film terms, such as film, refer to old film techniques. Yelling โcutโ and โrollingโ refer to literally cutting the film and rolling the camera.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
forcefx2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going "balls out' is an old term that was used around steam engines. It meant full power, the governator was made of 2 spinning balls centrifugally operator that would bleed the extra steam when reaching the limit - so it wouldn't explode.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down your window. Even better a friend of mine motioned the rolling of the crank arm to me the other day. It immediately got me that that's not really a thing anymore.
Iโm a filmmaker and photographer. I constantly say โfootage,โ โfilm,โ etc.. All these terms I use are kind of meaningless as itโs all digital now.
hm___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Orientation comes frome a time when maps where directed to Jerusalem instead of north, so the top side of the map was the Orient (on worldmaps jerusalem was in the center)
Killybug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โKnotsโ as a measurement of speed.
Originally mariners would throw a rope with knots at regular intervals in water to see how many were pulled off behind the ship per a fixed amount of time to determine nautical speed.
The save icon in most programs (especially MS Office) is still a floppy. I bet most people using these programs dont get the icon association and just "save by clicking on the weird black and purple rectangle icon"
istarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They probably do get the association, except the association is that symbol means 'save' rather than recognizing it as a floppy disk and the thing you save to.
The first ppl to cheers glasses together were knights protecting the king from poisoned drinks. By hitting glasses together, it ensured a little bit of everyone's liquid would transfer/mix to each others glasses and then they'd yell "cheers to the king" or something like that and all drink at the same time before the king.
We still cheers and hit glasses together, but i doubt we're doing it to test if our ale has been poisoned in an assasination attempt.
Agreed. official poison tester? Ooo that would be a toxic work environment. Like, if there was poison and the kings knights drank, then they'd all die. Why do it? Loyalty, i imagine.
I agree that it's hard to figure out a reason they would do this, based on the logic and what I've said.
Here's an article that has a few points around the whole "cheers" and giving a "toast".
From this source at least, there is no original source regarding my put forth "Cheers" claim. but it is one of a few considered theories. The point this article makes that I neglected to include is that EVERYONE in a room would drink (minus the king) so then there's a higher likelihood your attempt at spiking some drink would end in a suicide mission. Kamikaze shots anyone?
What else I found interesting is the article also speaks to why we call it a "toast", which is totally fitting for this thread.
Apparently people used to literally put toast in their drinks before drinking it to soak up some of the high level of acidity that could be commonly present in wine of that time period.
However, there is no real evidence to support either theory. Itโs believed the tradition is a more recent one and is likely done because people enjoyed the โclinkโ of their glasses coming together before drinking.
Probably best to not post things that aren't supported by evidence. Lead with the toast one in future, it's both a more reasonable possibility and actually a cooler fact.
Probably best to make sure you show evidence behind the toast being a cooler fact than the cheers thing, not just what your subjective opinion is. Ya know, don't want to come across as suggesting things just for the sake of conversation.
Roll the window down, back when car windows had handles that you had to roll in a circle to make the window go down or up. Nowadays we just have buttons ๐
This isnโt too old but the hard drive is only hard in relation to old floppy or tape or ribbon or card drives and readers. We called them simply drives for a while
savontt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone
Corb1n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "roll" your car window down gesture. Not many hand crank car windows around anymore.
I find it interesting that many MMO players say they're going to "roll" a new character. Very few MMOs have characters with randomized starting stats anymore.
Dashboards used to be the bar on the front of the carriage that blocked mud (kicked up by horses) from hitting the driver. The mud would dash on the board. Now it's just the place in your car where your radio is, or an app organization feature on your computer.
Itโs not a phrase, but the little โsaveโ button on Microsoft Word, etc. is a floppy disk! Or like the little hard disk after floppy disks. Itโs so irrelevant now
Dad used to say "hold the wire" to a caller when handing over the phone to someone else. Also, many folks called their refrigerator a Frigidaire even if they owned a different brand because it was one of the first refrigerator brands.
cadam43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows. Youโd say this in a car because you had to actually rotate (roll) the handle thingy to move the windows up and down. Do they still make cars with these?
"Video"....hardly anything is on video today. Most of it is digital. Yet we still often use the term video, whether we're talking about Netflix, movies at the theatre, a dvd film...
Y6Y1Y9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:49:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean "film" or "tape". "Video" is simply the act of recording visual imagery. Whether it's on film, tape or digital.
Anyone know where the phrase "smack dab" came from? I've said smack dab in the middle before but haven't really thought what the hell smack dab means until recently.
I caught myself telling my 3 1/2 year old son to roll his car window up. Practically no car, except certain base models (maybe?) still have the crank windows like every damn car in the universe used to have in the olden days prior to now. I suddenly realized he has no frame of reference to rolling up a window. He's not rolling up anything. He pushes a button and the window goes up. End of story. So now I simply tell him to put his window up.
pitb0ss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"pot calling the kettle black"
a phrase used whenever someone is being hypocritical, it makes almost no sense now that just about all kitchen wares are made from stainless steel, which is silver in appearance
The phrase is more ubiquitous now than in recent years for obvious reasons but the initial rotten tomato throwing was so long ago and has been preserved for such a long time without being relevant.
โRolling downโ your windows, even though all youโre actionably doing is pushing a button. Kids will never know the inconvenience of driving and attempting to roll down a back window at the same time.
"Roll up the window"
i'm willing to bet 95% of cars sold have electric windows so rolling the window up doesn't really apply now
cptnslw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ in any relatively new car
DJSkorge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this is on here already but Jaywalking used to be a derogatory term for people who were seen walking on the streets and didn't own a vehicle themselves.
Phase821 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. You don't actually hang up a phone anymore.
Still applies in aviation today, but I think it's interesting. 'Pushing the envelope' refers to flying a plane to (or past) the edges of prescribed flight envelopes such as safe operating speed or weight loading. When operated past its determined parameters the plane becomes less controllable.
jewoods ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told that "bugs" in a computer system were called that because they were literally bugs that short-circuited the electrical components by walking on them... We use that all the time in other things and I'm pretty sure they're not bugs in there
ereldar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial the phone. Roll down the window. Reset the game. Watching the tube. Tune the radio. Connect to the internet. Meet online (used to mean meeting someone in a chatroom, now it means through a dating site).
Just to name the ones off he top of my head.
Gig472 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A "bug" in a computer program originally refered to actual bugs getting stuck inside the interworkings of the first computers ever built.
Ithen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I gotta go tap mac" this term was used indicate to someone that they were going to withdraw money from the ATM when they were called MAC machines. I still hear the reference today
cubenz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunrise and sunset are the two biggies for me. Unless the flat earth crew turn out to be right, I guess.
What should we call them? Facing, and Facingaway?
ea_sky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ down your car window. Most newer cars have electric windows and so the passenger is not physically rolling the handle to lower their window.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of tangential but quite a lot of people use rhyming slang unknowingly.
Things like 'blowing raspberries' to refer to making fart noises with your mouth, usually in reference to baby noises. Not knowing that 'raspberry' is short for 'raspberry tart' which is rhyming slang for fart.
Or calling someone a 'dropkick', which is short for 'dropkick and punt' - two styles of kicking a rugby ball. That's rhyming slang for something else.
jsh1ne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Knock on wood" or to "touch wood" goes back to Germanic pagan beliefs of spirits, gods or supernatural beings living in trees. Its actual purpose is unclear, but scholars think that either you knocked on the tree to frighten off the spirit and thus escape having your good luck cursed, or you knocked in order to ask for the spirit's blessing.
Personally, I think it's incredible that a term/concept has survived with us relatively unchanged for at least a thousand years.
Also, the plot device known as deus ex machina. Literally, god from the machine. The plot lines of ancient Greek plays often became so convoluted that the only way to resolve everyone's issues was to have a god appear at the very end and untangle everything for them. The actors playing the god often appeared through a trap door on the stage, rising from below, or was lowered from above by a crane. Thus, god from the machine.
'That's like the pot calling the kettle black', is a phrase/term for when you call someone out for something that you also do/are. Back in the olden days both pots and kettles were black, hence this term.
A proper name but kids today likely donโt realize that the name ยซย YouTubeย ยป is referring to tube TVs which are pretty much obsolete these days. Or even just calling the TVย ยซย the tubeย ยป.
2 that I know of...I live in New England and we have a lot of 'cod' here in our waters, a teacher once told us, they were named that because when the settlers came here, they kept catching this one type of fish, they had never seen. They named it cod as in 'Catch of the Day' and the second one is when someone is ripped off, they say you got 'jipped' which is a reference to 'gypsies' as they were stereotypically known as thieves. Kinda racist, but thats where it came from.
hydrus8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Book on tape
ToadLake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why so many people I know that played video games over the years would refer to levels in a game as "boards". I remember some of my friends referring to the first level of Super Mario Bros as the first board.
German. The whole thing is full of comical words like your "sick wagon" (instead of a specific word like ambulance) takes you to a "sick house" and your taken care of by a "sick sister".
"Hang up" the phone. We don't hang phone on walls anymore, and almost no one has a land line.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
String beans are called string beans because there used to be a string of fiber that ran through the bean, but it was bred out in the late 19th century.
โHang up.โ In the early days of telephones they consisted of a cradle and a handset, connected by a cord; ending the call required placing the handset in the cradle, i.e, hanging it there, thus hanging up. They havenโt made phones that way for thirty years but people still say โhe hung upon meโ!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up the phone. It still works but it doesn't mean the same
Hang up the phone. The first telephones had the speaker that needed to be hung on the hook after you were done. When land line phones were on the wall you had to "hang them up". Now you just press a button.
ShafieeK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bugs! Computer bugs I mean. And debugging.
Pretty sure this knowledge is pretty common, but I'll just put an article here
On September 9, 1945, a Harvard technical team looked at Panel F and found something unusual between points in Relay 70. It was a moth, which they promptly removed and taped in the log book. Grace Hopper added the caption "First actual case of bug being found," and that's the first time anyone used the word bug to describe a computer glitch. Naturally, the term debugging followed.
The way the phrase โfirst ACTUAL bugโ is used tells me the term โbugโ had been in use before that point.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hangup. When someone ends the phone call. Used to be, you hung the phone on a hook to end the call.
I remember telling a customer I'd release the line of her continued to curse at me. He made fun of me for using s euphemism for hanging up. No, I wasn't going to hang up anything. I was going to click a button on my screen that would release the line.
Digital is generally (inaccurately) used to mean computer-based, originally it meant something relating to one's fingers and toes (digits); as they were frequently used to aid counting, digit came to mean number, and as all computing is based on binary-numbers, digital now means something relating to computing.
I'd throw 'jealous' into the mix. I was taught that to be jealous was to protective of something you own, where to be envious was to covet something someone else owned. Nowadays people seem to use jealous for both and 'envious' has fallen by the wayside. When was the last time you used it?
Degru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I for one will use the correct terms from now on thanks
Kratsas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say Iโm going to tape a show when Iโm recording something on my DVR.
โRolling upโ car windows. When did manual handles for car windows completely disappear- early 90s maybe?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ in a car. Many cars have power windows now.
mcrackin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Balls to the Wall.
I give it a meaning of getting stuff done fast. Apparently the phrase came from a pilots throttle, shaped like a ball, and to increase the speed of the plane you would push it to the firewall as far as it would go. Balls to the Wall.
Wvreb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A gaming term that is kinda meaningless is "Rogue-like" because none of those games tend to have more than a fleeting similarity to Rogue. It's like calling CoD an MMORPG because it's multiplayer, massive, and has progression.
Same way that we still use a floppy disk as the save symbol. I think floppy disks had just gone out of usage when I was young so I remember them. Must be a funny symbol for kids of today though.
People recording a video and you hear them say "I got that on tape!"
dabenu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a term, but an icon: the save button is always shaped like a floppy disk. I bet most people jounger than ~20 have never seen a real floppy disk, yet they click the icon every day.
Not a word, but the fact that we still use a floppy disc for the "save" icon is pretty outdated. I had to explain it to a student recently and it took way too long.
Driving a car vs riding a horse: riding a horse is a more active task than driving a car so why is it the one that sounds passive? We say drive a car because cars used to be carriages pulled by horses. The horses wouldnt move on their own so they had to be driven by the driver (the person who whips the horses). So when horseless carriages (cars) came around, they were still "driven"
This one might not make as much sense since we are so used to the word drive meaning driving a car, but the original meaning was to motivate, and that turned into piloting a car because of what I explained above.
How about the term "literally" it is often used without any reference to it's initial meaning. i.e. it can be used to mean figuratively rather than from the literature.... it's exact opposite.
Why did you need to include the second half of that sentence? Also, why did you add a smiley face to it? The first bit seems needlessly rude, and the second seems insincere. Was that the point?
Ben_Doon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tune in" and "Stay tuned," from the days when you had to manually tweak a dial to find the right frequency for a broadcast. people even use it on podcasts.
JLink100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's totally correct, depending on your frame of reference.
JLink100 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was refering anyway as that the expression was used when the geocentric model was in place. But actually yes, you are right. Thanks for pointing that one out!
Just think about how your parents were setting you up for failure by making you promise to sit still at the dinner table, when in actuality you're moving along at about 18 miles per second, with no choice in the matter.
(Re)wind didn't lose its core relevance with the decline of VHS or audio tapes, because that word has existed for thousands of years before the invention of tapes. The Proto-Germanic windanฤ meant "to cover or surround with something coiled about" (and comes in fact from some even older Indo-European word). At some point it was borrowed for winding clocks. Then suddenly tapes came around and it was borrowed again for that new meaning. And afterwards it was borrowed anew for jumping through the timeline of digital media products. In the future it may be borrowed for other purposes as well.
This borrowing of words is true for nearly every other example in this thread and their core relevance almost always was something that is several thousand years old.
Shipping. Almost everything we send is done by truck or air these days. Trying to put a package on an actual boat is incredibly difficult, or at least very expensive.
It is also something that gets used for things that aren't physical. My father worked for a software company that had a subscription service. He told me that they had "shipped" their latest product. I pointed out that his product would never go on a ship as it was an internet download. He replied that it would be going on undersea cables...
It wasn't the eating of parts, but the bugs getting in the way. For example, a moth's wing getting in between the contacts of a relay, preventing the circuit from completing.
My car still has manual windows but thats because its a 13 year old base model civic. Even the cheapest of cheap cars these days come with power windows, barring very few exceptions.
Just to be a dick, I will point out that "rewind" has been in the language since the 18th century. I don't think it's lost it's core relevance if you think of it in its literal sense.
But I assume you mean in relationship to magnetic tape.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โLiterallyโ used to actually mean Literally, now it Literally doesnโt mean Literally anymore as itโs used in the wrong context most f the time.
Nauseous originally meant that something/someone was causing nausea or disgust.
โWhen the chemicals were mixed, they emitted a nauseous smell.โ
Nauseated originally used to mean physically affected with nausea.
โI ate some bad food and I am now feeling nauseated.โ
Most people use nauseous interchangeably with nauseated. I think the arbiters of ambiguity should be violently pushed into a vat of noxious chemicals. (At least we can agree on that meaning)
Roll down/up your window. Used to have to hand crank a car window. Dial a phone number. We don't use dials anymore, infact that technology is officially dead because phone lines no longer support rotary dials.
I sometimes tell my middle school students to press Return instead of Enter on their computers. I forget theyโve probably never seen a typewriter in real life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saved by the bell. Bells were attached to corpses buried, so that if they were mistakenly buried alive the bells would ring above ground to signal they clearly need to be dug up.
zOSguru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When something is โshippedโ via truck or airplane.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone. I had to to explain it to my niece and I felt super old. I'm only gonna be 26 in February. :'(
IceEye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You see, the cleverness of this post is that nearly every word in the English language can be traced back to something that's no longer relivent. Latin or English.
Therefore nearly everyone has some novel word entomology they know about yet the topic still seems niche and interesting. OP is a tricksy one.
I think the question was less about words that have changed meaning and more about phrases or words that were once literal references to something but are now idiomatic or metaphorical. You used to literally have footage of things that you had filmed, because it was a certain length of film measured in feet. Now those terms have been transferred to similar technologies but to which they don't apply. That's not really the case with "nearly every word in the English language," especially not our core vocabulary.
Upgrade and downgrade... I was driving through some maintains and saw a sign warning truckers of the downgrade ahead. Iโm not sure if thatโs where it came from, but thatโs what came to mind as soon as I saw it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly what I expected. @shadesmctuba is a liberal nut job posting against anyone who they think has conservative values. Who labeled me a bible thumper, when I'm Non-religious, because I said I don't like that people think they can get violent or offended because they think they can change their gender, and the world needs to respect it, and create special bathrooms just for them, and be careful with pronouns around them, because you might offend them. I don't care what others do, or call themselves. If I call you "Sir" it's because you look like a guy. If I call you "Miss" it's because you look like I woman. I'm not going to ask you how you identify first. If you want to be called "Sir" then grow a beard, and I'm pretty sure everyone will call you "Sir".
"Footage" refers to the length of film shot on a reel using a motion picture film camera. Depending on your film size (8mm, 16mm, 35mm, 70mm/IMAX) and the diameter of your reel, the amount of time you can film varies greatly.
zerbey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:17:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used the word videotape to mean I recorded something on my phone and the person I was talking to actually got angry with me for using it. I mean yes, it's technically wrong but you understood what I said!
Uppercase and Lowercase which originally got their meaning from the metal letters being kept in two cases the upper one and the lower one back in the times of the printing press
zeemode ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:19:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DASHBOARD. I learned this on Reddit a few weeks back. It was a wooden BOARD mounted in front of a wagon or open carriage to protect the riders from getting hit my mud that was DASHED up by the horses.
Upper case and lowercase letters. Typesetters stored the capital letters in the higher compartment and the small letters in the more easily reachable bottom compartment.
Do people still say that they've 'taped' something? We used to say that because we were recording video onto film or tape. Now we record onto our digital video recorders, but I feel like some of us old salts still say taped.
"Dash" was debris kicked up by a moving horse. A "dashboard" protected the driver.
Also glovebox I guess.
Howdysf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:06:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Film".
I say stuff like "I got it on film!" when I video something with my phone...
Keilbasa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:11:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "dashboard" comes from a literal board on the front of a sleigh/carriage to block dirt, snow, rocks etc. that would be thrown or "dashed" up by the horses hooves.
TDK716 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:36:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Glove compartment" - technically you can still store gloves, but that's where I keep my stash of receipts if someone should ever try and place me at the scene of a crime.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:37:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window, my 5 year old asked me why we say it that way.
Rewind has always been used to denote going backwards on a recording to an earlier point. Films used to be rewound into a canister to be watched again.
I like your question but don't think rewind has lost it's core relevance.
Reverse isn't any more accurate. I'd say it more denotes watching backwards instead of going backwards for the purpose of watching from an earlier point.
But even in your other examples you're still physically "winding" something. When you're running a digital recording back to an earlier point there's nothing there to be "wound."
Madden. I think its kind of funny that the biggest sport in the US is football. But, everyone refers to the video game for it as Madden. I'm sure plenty of kids have asked there parents if they can go to a real life Madden game having no idea that Madden refers to a person.
Typewriters used to be DVORAK because it was faster, but eventually they started to jam, so they went to QWERTY to purposely slow typists down. They need to bring DVORAK back now that we have electronic typewriters and computers now.
Computer bugs. Early computers used breaker points, and on occasion an insect or spider would get caught between the points and block the current causing a malfunction.
โI need to get gasโ even though we only drive flying saucers and speeders that are electric now..oh wait I went to far back in Time..I thought it was the year 2120
Thatโs a bunch of bullshit that people think is real. Like fortification under consent of the king
Malthus0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is a very old anglo saxon word. Just like many other vulgar English words. Arse, fuck etc.
From the OED
Old English scitte โdiarrhoeaโ, of Germanic origin; related to Dutch schijten, German scheissen (verb). The term was originally neutral and used without vulgar connotation.
a thin plastic disk carrying recorded sound, especially music, in grooves on each surface, for reproduction by a record player.
synonyms: album, vinyl;
a piece or collection of music reproduced on a phonographic record or on another medium, such as compact disc.
"my favorite record"
I know i'm late and this will be buried, but anytime someone tells me to "click" something on my phone, I can't help but think about how it should be referred to as "touch".
Means carbon copy. When you wanted a copy of the letter you were typing on a typewriter. You would place a sheet of carbon paper and another blank piece of paper underneath the top sheet of paper, like a little sandwich, and insert that in the typewriter. When you typed the strike of the keys was strong enough for the carbon to create an impression of the original on the 2nd sheet of paper.
Later they came up with multi-part carbonless forms. It was an exciting time, lmao.
y_o_y_o ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:16:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowsโ always comes to mind in a car.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:17:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
e3crazyb ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:17:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows. Referring to when you had to physically roll them down yourself instead of simply pressing a button as most modern cars have nowadays.
dodbrew ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:23:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone". I believe this comes from back in the day when many phones were wall mounted, and you would literally hang up the phone to end the conversation.
The phrase "roll down your window is still widely used, even though the great majority of current automobiles (I said majority, country boys) have electric operation of windows instead of the roller.
A video refers to any moving visual image, whether it's on tape or stored on digital media. If they say "I got that on tape!" that would be inaccurate and dated, but "I got that on video!" is completely accurate and not dated in any way.
I could see how video tape would be considered outdated as tape is rarely used anymore, but the word video is from the Latin videre "to see" and audio which is from the Latin audire "to hear" and seems to be an ageless term for any form of moving pictures with sound.
Gsgshap ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:48:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure no one says "I got that on memory card!"
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling the TV remote the clicker.
Rolling down the care windows. (including using the hand crank sign language to ask someone to roll down their window)
Ildigrub ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A computer bug used to literally mean there was an insect on your computer room
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck= Fornication Under the Conscent od the King
You know, when the king could fuck girls right before the got married!!
atheros ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "web" or "website". Originally web sites had an obligatory links section. There you found hyperlinks to other somewhat related websites. This was how you found information- by bouncing from site to site. The links of sites conceptually formed a large "web". When you were done for the day you would bookmark your place and disconnect.
But the web stopped existing over a decade ago. Although links still exist, we now use a hub and spoke system. We start on Google or Reddit or Facebook, branch out one or maybe two links, and then come back. But "hub-and-spoke site" doesn't have a good ring to it so we still call them websites.
(This is not to be confused with the 'net' or 'network'. That is hardware and protocol software only. The net still exists.)
Love is wickedly overused. I LOVED that, I LOVE what you did there. No, love is some deep shit and that is not how you feel about a purse you just saw.
bambamtx ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feminism, Liberal, Freedom, Sanity.
theSpire ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You obviously don't know any DJs or go to shows that feature DJs...
REWIND!!!!
Laptop "Charger". The first generation portable computers did have an external box that had two power outputs; one to power the computer and one that would monitor and charge the battery. These were chargers. By around 1993 all of the battery charging circuitry was moved inside of the computers and the batteries (smart batteries). Current "chargers" do not contain any charging circuitry. They are AC adapters that only convert the high voltage AC from the wall into a single fixed DC voltage. The circuitry inside of the computer takes care of all of the aspects of charging.
Even the term "Laptop" is not correct in most cases. Portable computers went from luggable (desktop case with a handle and small CRT), to laptop (took up your entire lap from your gut to your knees), to notebook (roughly the size of a 8.5" x 11" paper notebook). The giant gaming notebooks could be considered "laptops", but the vast majority of portable computers are notebooks.
You don't get it do you, it's the term for turning back cassette and tapes to early times. Literally was a mechanical operation that doesn't occur anymore
mrglass8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Wow, it never occurred to me back in the day that it was called rewind for that reason
leeps011 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bitch- It used to mean a female dog- Now it's a slur and I can't even call a female dog a female dog without the wife smacking me upside the head :/
...but I'm now politically correct which is nice...
ARRRcade ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CedTruz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one confused as to how rewind has lost its relevance? Donโt DJs still wind the record in reverse to go back to the beginning when they play a really hot track?
rewinding was a process that took like 5-10 minutes to get a VHS or cassette tape back to the beginning so that it could be played again. pressing a repeat track button is not rewinding, nor is scratching vinyl.
CedTruz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not listening to 50 minutes of music I dont like to figure out what you mean, so I'm going to assume that it was backmasked like most skilled DJs are able to do.
"Patching" and "Debugging". Patching originally refers to covering up the holes in punch cards for old-school computers. Debugging refers to cleaning out bugs that have started living in the holes in punch cards for old-school computers.
'patching' this predates punch cards by quite a few decades, the term 'patching' comes from the 1940s' and the computer known as ENIAC. you would setup your computation using patch leads ( in a similar way to how old telephone exchanges worked to 'patch' calls through. )
and AFAIK the terms 'bug' and 'debug' predate grace hopper ( aka the mother of compilers. ), which again, predates punch cards by quite a few decades.
"However, the term "bug", in the sense of "technical error", dates back at least to 1878 and Thomas Edison (see software bug for a full discussion). Similarly, the term "debugging" seems to have been used as a term in aeronautics before entering the world of computers. Indeed, in an interview Grace Hopper remarked that she was not coining the term[citation needed]. The moth fit the already existing terminology, so it was saved. "
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who still says rewind? No one still says rewind. You don't have to rewind anything anymore so the term is no longer said! It's not a thing anymore!
K4453N ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:44:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?
You never need to go back 15 seconds?
Or, you think no one in the world ever does any more? What do you call the two left-facing arrows you press to skip backward when you see them on every single remote youโve ever had in your life?
According to Google Trends, the word "rewind" has increased in popularity over the last 13 years even as VHS has died as a medium. (For anyone wondering, the peaks in 2008 are from the theatrical and home video releases of the movie "Be Kind Rewind".)
Yes it is. What do you call it when you are watching something and you want to go back a couple minutes because you missed what happened? I donโt know about you, but I say โHey, rewind that bit. I missed it.โ
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AlmanzoWilder ยท 16250 points ยท Posted at 18:16:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The soap opera. These serials were usually sponsored by soap companies (aimed at housewives). The association has gone away but the name stuck.
DatMaiBienYe ยท 1755 points ยท Posted at 21:11:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Proctor and Gamble had the longest running soap opera, which ended not too long. Also, the first soap operas were radio shows.
moethebartender ยท 894 points ยท Posted at 23:09:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you referring to Guiding Light? That show began on radio in 1937 and finally ended its television run 72 years later, in 2009. From 1952 to 1956, the show ran on both radio and TV, with the same actors performing the same story twice.
ctophermh89 ยท 205 points ยท Posted at 01:04:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol my mother would watch GL religiously every day. She named my little brother Josh, after the bearded fellow on the show that died and resurrected every so often. Nobody but me knows.
physicscat ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:58:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joshua Lewis! I watched the Guiding Light when I was in high school.
https://i.imgur.com/zOqZ2Op.jpg
Goullet ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 02:06:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you have a picture of that guys brother?
WastingMyLifeHere2 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:14:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Billy?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:09:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but I'm not Sharing it. It's in my uh.. Private collection
Series_of_Accidents ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:43:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was really hard for my gramma when it went off the air. She had a stroke a few years prior and didn't understand when her show stopped airing.
braptimusprime ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:16:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was named after Harley Davidson-Cooper
asshair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't Challenge Reddit
moethebartender ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 02:03:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find it amazing how far soap operas have fallen in the U.S. lately. As recently as the 1990s, most major broadcast networks (except Fox) aired three or four soaps every weekday. Now only four daytime soaps remain: ABC's General Hospital, CBS's The Bold and the Beautiful and The Young and The Restless, and NBC's Days of Our Lives.
There are many reasons for this: Fewer stay-at-home mothers, fewer mothers passing down their favorite soaps to their daughters, cheaper talk and reality shows, competition from cable and the Internet...
spmahn ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:08:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soap Operas are expensive to produce, you have actors, writers, production people, and all their associated unions. Talk Shows and Game Shows are much cheaper to produce and do similar if not better ratings and ad rates.
SangersSequence ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:59:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
72 years?! I consider myself lucky if a show I like gets a second season, and a third a borderline miracle.
abraburger ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:28:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldnโt they just play the audio from the tv recording and play it on the radio?
moethebartender ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:37:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radio drama requires a narrator to describe the action, which lends itself to different pacing. I think sound technology and techniques were different for radio and TV, not to mention that in the mid-50s, many radio and television soaps were still performed live. (Almost all TV was live in the earliest days.)
Euchre ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:56:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Foley art was part of the radio soap, too - which isn't needed in TV with its visual cues. (This was a point brought up by my SO, who lives and breathes GH.)
SafariMonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:37:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Foley is still used plenty in film and television! But, of course, its importance to radio is probably greater.
CareerMilk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I listen to a load of radio dramas and none of them have narrators
professorkr ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:44:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of the ones I listen to have dialogue that is adjusted to account for telling the audience when you're doing an action.
"Step over here into my office. Hey, what is that, in your pocket there? Why, it's a gun!"
You don't need these verbal cues when the audience can see the action and the actor's physical response.
CareerMilk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean yhea, I'm not saying you don't need a different writing style. Just you don't need it to be a narrator.
crypticXJ88 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:42:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crappy unrealistic dialogue, in other words.
professorkr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:42:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most radio serials weren't/aren't grounded in reality.
crypticXJ88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just saying it's obvious why they mostly died out after TV came along.
Null_zero ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:46:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to have a radio that could play the audio portion of the TV broadcast signal and listen to soaps that way.
DatMaiBienYe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:41:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Thank you for covering my laziness lol
Slipsonic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:08:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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moethebartender ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:24:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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andrewwithnumbers ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:45:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaha this made me inhale the ice cream I was previously carefully eating
IcePhoenix18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:05:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to watch it with her grandmother!
UltraChilly ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:47:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They cancelled it on the 1st of April? Maybe they announced that as a joke and nobody cared so they did it?
moethebartender ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:54:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was when its cancellation was announced. The last episode aired on September 18.
JSiobhan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guiding Light was created by Irma Phillips. Her first radio soap opera was sponsored by Pillsbury. If the company had continued their support of radio daytime drams, we might be calling them "cake operas".
MarshmallowTurtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:59:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to watch GL with my mom when it was on. From what I remember, it was actually pretty entertaining. Not "binge watch on Netflix" entertaining, but "lol what's gonna happen next" entertaining. The other ones on just don't seem to have the same "surprises". The
Bold and The Beautiful, another one on CBS, has ran so long that the romances are borderline incestuous. Not actual incest, but everyone is someone's stepmom's cousin's son or something. It's hilarious.
codyaf222 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a little fucking ridiculous.
janebirkin ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 23:22:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother, a WWII-era refugee to the US, first started following Guiding Light when it was still just a radio show. She first listened, then watched it faithfully all those decades.
Her sister, a Siberian deportation survivor, followed it back in their homeland too, but it was aired many seasons behind there. She would always ask my grandmother if the show ever ended, because we'd know in the US years before they did.
(My grandmother lived to see the end of Guiding Light in 2009. Her sister didn't. :( )
try_____another ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 22:27:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Archers still is a radio show, although Iโm not sure whether it is actually a soap or just a placeholder to act as a convenient joke for BBC comedians.
Cymry_Cymraeg ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:39:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, have you ever actually met anyone who listens to 'The Archers'? I haven't.
Acyts ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:48:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I listen to the archers. It's terrible and amazing at the same time. Plus it's on when I cook in the evening
dagbrown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So who do you think was driving the car that hit Matt Crawford?
Octopiece ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:05:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both my parents were born in the 50s and they still listen to it. I don't know anyone else who does though.
Lord_Punchings ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:07:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me, I do. It's lovely washing-up ambience.
try_____another ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:41:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I know more about The Archers from Dead Ringers than from ever listening to it.
Paddywhacker ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:44:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only know the theme tune, because it's asked so often in quizzes
u38cg2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:07:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't listen to Radio 4 at that time of day, but I enjoy it when I hear it.
liquidgeosnake ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:10:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad radio drama is on its way back.
HomelandHomecoming is a good podcast and now I've heard that Marvel is doing a Wolverine series. Star Wars did all three original trilogy films as radio dramas in the '80s (Mark Hamill even played Luke Skywalker and also Anthony Daniels and Billy Dee Williams is there) so it would be so great if Lucasfilm could bring that back.justaprimer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:47:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What, really?! Now I really want to find a copy of the Star Wars radio dramas. The BBC LotR radio drama is one of my favorite things ever to listen to -- I probably have most of their Fellowship dramatization memorized at this point. I hope that the Star Wars ones are just as good!
liquidgeosnake ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:39:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can also recommend The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy radio drama, which-- I hope you're sitting down-- preceded the novels and are actually the original version of the story.
justaprimer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What???!?!???!? That's awesome. I love radio dramas -- growing up, every Sunday night I would listen to a program where they played radio shows from the 1940s-1960s for 4 hours. Do you have any other recommendations?
liquidgeosnake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:17:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
aaaaaayy! Me, too! I'm 30 but somehow I grew up listening to radio dramas late every Saturday night.
Podcasts are how they do it nowadays. I've only listened to a couple: Welcome to Night Vale is everybody's favorite, and I really enjoyed the first season of Homecoming, which has the benefit of featuring real actors that you've heard of, like Star Wars' Oscar Isaac. The Truth has some good episodes, especially "Moon Graffiti".
So check those out, check out the Star Wars radio dramas (feat. John Lithgow as Yoda lol) and Hitchhiker's Guide (ever wonder why they chose the song "Journey of the Sorcerer" as the movie's theme song?) radio programme. You're in for several treats!
justaprimer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm younger than 30, so I think getting to listen to old time radio growing up was very lucky. Thanks for the podcast recommendations! I really love Oscar Isaac, so I might have to try that one.
liquidgeosnake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:18:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really good. At the end of each episode, they talk about how they produced each episode, and it's so interesting. Stuff like actually sitting on a park bench or in an office and actually acting together, with physical movement and everything, instead of recording separately on different days in a sound booth. It's a good show with a captivating story. Enjoy!
Related: if you've never listened to a Star Wars audiobook, they're bad ass. They have the licensed sound effects and music and they're a lot of fun to listen to.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember STAR WARS being a (longer than three parts) radio drama in the 70s/80s. I don't think they did Empire or Jedi but I might be wrong. You can find it online. I loved it when I was a kid because it was one way you could satisfy the urge to get more star wars in your life, and it really expanded on the characters and situations.
liquidgeosnake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ANH in 1981, Empire in 1983(?) and Jedi in 1996 (it was a whole thing). The shows are, all episodes together, like four hours long!! Granted, you have to describe things you'd otherwise see in the movies, but still lol
If anyone's wondering about their canonicity, they used to be G Canon, since George Lucas helped develop them. Not anymore, however. The first episode actually starts following Princess Leia before the movie starts, but she gets the Death Star plans at "Toprawa", not Scarif. Stuff like that. It's still worth listening to because it's Star Wars but while you ride your bike or whatever lol
AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! I guess I didn't keep up with it. Inspired, I began re-listening last night. great fun.
Rationalbacon ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:44:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so now we have.....(puts on sunglasses).....NO SOAP RADIO!!!
Deathalo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:42:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it
Paddywhacker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:27:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found it, it's stupid:
"No soap radio" is a form of practical joke and an example of surreal comedy. The joke is in reality a prank whereby the punch line has no relation to the body of the joke; that is, it is actually not funny, but participants in the prank pretend otherwise. The effect is to either trick someone into laughing along as if they "get it" or to ridicule them for not understanding.
Rationalbacon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:55:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
everyone else does, its obvious!
Deathalo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:24:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paddywhacker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:43:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nor do I.
If you find out, tell me
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:49:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Paddywhacker ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:27:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I want to play along, but, it's not actually funny
surpriseanthill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you're allowed to do that.
SybariticLegerity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:23:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lmfao
NotJokingAround ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YEAHHHHH!
Sapphyrre ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The longest running show is General Hospital and it's still going.
otatop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GH won't be the longest running for another ~3 years.
Sapphyrre ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's in the Guiness Book of World Records for being in production but second longest on tv
hilarymeggin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs an 84 yo man in my church choir who was an actor in one of the last radio soap operas!
Phyltre ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:50:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
" the longest running soap opera, which ended not too long"
Get your story straight!
TheRealDTrump ยท 402 points ยท Posted at 20:46:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered why they were called that!
Lanarchy ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:23:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi Mr President!
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:23:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah same! Interesting.
roastbeeftacohat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:05:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
one of the first ones made ivory soap a plot point, that the bad people use heavily scented soap so you knew they were bad people.
dudeAwEsome101 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:17:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I thought it was from some foriegn genre of television.
DaSaw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably when they started, washing with soap was not a universal habit, so soap companies would sponsor shows about how awesome the lives of clean people are, so people would want to buy soap.
jlenney1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:54:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always?
frystofer ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:05:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was all consuming, forever present, never retreating from the forefront of conscious thought. The moments before sleep; a feeling of dreaded anticipation, the moments of waking; a terror of realized fears. Days spent pretending life was still worthwhile, nights knowing it never would be because of the shame of forgetting how to google.
corblestorm ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 20:52:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Salsa music was music played on radio stations sponsored by salsa companies. The music was a new genre without a name until people started referring to it as such.
danielle-in-rags ยท 361 points ยท Posted at 21:35:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds made-up yet credible enough, so I'm just gonna do 0 research and believe you ๐
AFishBackwards ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:42:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Salsa means 'sauce' in the Spanish language, and carries connotations of the spiciness common in Latin and Caribbean cuisine. In the 20th century, salsa acquired a musical meaning in both English and Spanish. In this sense salsa has been described as a word with "vivid associations." Cubans and Puerto Ricans in New York have used the term analogously to swing or soul music. In this usage salsa connotes a frenzied, "hot" and wild musical experience that draws upon or reflects elements of Latin culture, regardless of the style. - Wikipedia
KingGorilla ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Saucy' has a similar connotation, did it come from salsa?
ziggrrauglurr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most definitely
Aiskhulos ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:55:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reddit.txt
astralradish ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:38:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suggest that you do the research :P
TrigAntrax ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 21:35:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because people like to say salsa
xwre ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:55:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where's the salsa? Can you pass the salsa? Do you have any salsa? salsa salsa salsa.
samoorai ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:13:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I like hot sauce."
"I think you mean you like salsa, gringo!"
You may have a point.
Sam-Gunn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dude, you're just as white as I am!"
coleman57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, most of them like to say "sawlzuh", which burns my ears like Holly Payne, yo.
Magookas ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 21:42:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with Rock companies (companies that, you know, mine for rocks n shit). They used to sponsor different types of metal music..
Edit: I should add that metal music was also sponsored by Metal companies (companies that, you know, mine for metal n shit).
corblestorm ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:48:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Banjos were originally made by a company that didn't want to sell them to Jo's.
dethkon ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:45:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually rock and roll was named after not only the big rock companies you mentioned, but also bankrolled by Big Roll... you know, companies that make rolls of things (paper towels, tp, uh, yoga mats).
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:47:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Same thing with jazz music. It was exclusively used to promote jazz bands.
astralradish ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:38:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Untrue
dethkon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:46:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sir, SIR. How dare you.
astralradish ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:51:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bite my thumb at you, Sir!
dethkon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:12:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i cannot abide this insult. i challenge you to a duel, anytime, anywhere (de_dust, de_dust2, cs_assault, etc.)
astralradish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
d1_trainstation_01.
zeroone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alternative facts.
tabletop1000 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:25:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just like how salsa companies were originally sponsored by Big Tomato to sell their rotten tomatoes and peppers to the masses.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:54:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No way! Cool.
mtarascio ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:37:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered why there was sexy Herbal Essence ads in my Soap Operas.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:24:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then where does the opera part come into play? Unless I'm wrong I don't think soap operas feature people singing in languages that I don't understand while drawing out the notes for so long I probably wouldn't understand even if I spoke the language.
Kevin5953 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 21:38:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They incorporated "opera" because the operas were closely associated with drama.
Why didn't they use "Soap drama" instead? No idea.
Sam-Gunn ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:33:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I believe it's because of something more like this definition:
Which doesn't actually suggest you're wrong, just that it's a tad more involved than simply being drama. And I consider it incomplete. Something better would remove the last bit (as a space opera tends not to have any music unless it's a movie).
For example, a science fiction story, book, or movie that is primarily based in space itself and focuses on ship to ship combat (among other things) is called a Space Opera.
The Who, Pink Floyd, and The Pretty Things all wrote special albums that, when played together, told a story via music. Tommy, The Wall, and S.F. Sorrow, respectively. These are considered some of the best (err, or maybe only) Rock Operas.
silmarien1142 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:40:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think itโs called opera bc it involves drama?
PlankWithANailIn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:42:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Overblown ridiculous drama
Stimonk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:44:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soap operas were actually created because TV/radios were being sold, but there was no content on them. Back then they realized that they had to create content, otherwise the hardware would be useless.
So you had electronics companies creating radio/tv shows and getting soap companies to sponsor/subsidize it.
For TV - there emerged the red channels & blue channel - which would later become NBC & ABC I believe.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
very cool.
Nicekicksbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if everything was named after the organisations that sponsor it. Things would get pretty crazy, and unbelievable.
hoggershog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:37:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean life insurance operas?
Paddywhacker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:47:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean injury lawyer serials?
Rolled1YouDeadNow ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:46:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I always thought soap opera was just some kind of drama show. Does the space opera genre have anything to so with it?
AlmanzoWilder ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:53:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet it was derived from soap opera but not being sponsored by space companies.
Painting_Agency ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:31:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC "Space opera" as a term is derived from "horse opera", which referred to Western shows. Lots of drama, not particularly accurate. Star Trek was originally promoted to TV producers by Roddenberry as a sort of space Western.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:51:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
horse opera -- that is great
TessHKM ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:51:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Opera= big dramatic production (in tv-speak anyways)
Soap opera = big dramatic production sponsored by soap companies.
Space opera = big dramatic production set in space.
DaveSenior72 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:39:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They weren't just sponsored by the companies...Procter and Gamble Productions made a few of them
emilyj0y ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:13:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think it's because housewives watched them while they were doing laundry--or at least my mom did!
JapaneseStudentHaru ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:14:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โJanice! Are you cheating on me? Why?!โ โBecause you... you bought the store brand soap!โ โIโm sorry Janice!โ โNo, itโs too late, John! You wonโt change!โ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You joke, but in the UK a series of adverts were filmed in the style of a cheap soap opera:
embracing_insanity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! I've never understood why those shows were called soap opera's!
X0AN ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Procter and Gamble were originally just a soap company and they used to advertise on radio dramas in the 20s/30s.
As they were a soap making company and sponsored the dramas (aka operas) they gaine the nickname soap operas, which carried over when tv came out/took off.
Nicekicksbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I'd have preferred them to be called Soap Dramas lol.
gruffi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically they are now continuing dramas at least here in the UK
PseudonymIncognito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term is even a loanword in Mandarin in spite of that association never having happened in the first place.
physalisx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does that make it an opera though?
MysteriousPlatypus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my 7th graders pronounces these as โso-poperasโ and I have to repeatedly correct him. He asked why do they have the word soap in them and I didnโt know, but now I can tell him! Haha
Zerotan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always wonder how every detergent can claim to be that much better than the leading brand.
elduderino2800 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you watch any modern soap opera, most commercials are still from house-cleaning companies
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh. I haven't seen them in quite awhile.
MegamanDevil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would that make the shadow a coal opera? Coal radio? Tire opera?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had NO idea they were called soap operas because of that. Perhaps we should name them "dramas" now? I'd feel a lot better saying "My favourite drama is 'Bold and the Beautiful'" as opposed to "My favourite soap opera", lol
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh My God. It weirds me out how I've never wondered why they were called soap operas like just never questioned it
An_Oxford_Comma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just blew my mind.
Nicekicksbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same.
RavetcoFX ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:18:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's both fascinating and very sexist and the same, something I never would have thought about. Thanks!
11k_ ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 21:31:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You advertise to people who are likely to buy your products, it's not sexist, it's just common sense.
MattyWorth ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:41:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also wasn't that advertisers necessairly thought of soap as strictly a "feminine" product. I mean, they knew men used it too. But in the 30s and 40s, women were typically the decision makers for household purchases - they were the ones doing the shopping, deciding which brands to purchase. So a lot of advertising was geared towards them, even for men's products ("Ladies, are you tired of your husband's hair looking and feeling greasy? Try new Brylcreem!").
TobiasCB ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:24:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Advertising isn't sexist. Each product has its demographic.
Rolled1YouDeadNow ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 20:45:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's that's sexist. Like advertising certain cars to a man. Women bought soap. They wanted to sell soap.
Edit: Quickly realized that I was thinking in terms of the gender-roles that were relevant at that time. But of course, gender-roles themselves are sexist
pepperonijabroni ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 21:07:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No they're not.
FirstWaveMasculinist ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 21:12:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Compelling argument. Have you tried "i know you are but what am i" yet?
dethkon ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't an arguement it was a question (which I already answered THANK YOU VERY MUCH). what's your answer, out of curiosity? brb another match is about to start and we have to save this round so we can get aks next round
FirstWaveMasculinist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:05:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
???
dethkon ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oops sorry i thought you were responding to "sweeetjane" up there. great you just made me lose another round of counter-strike
sweetjaaane ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:12:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes they are. Why should I buy all the soap in the household just because I have a vagina?
pepperonijabroni ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:21:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't. But I'm sure the majority of people that do the grocery shopping are women, so obviously that would be their best demographic to advertise too.
I'm sure the majority of pickup truck buyers are men, so obviously that'll be their demographic they advertise to. That doesn't mean that I should buy a pickup truck because I have a penis.
dethkon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:51:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do ALL of my pizza roll, hot pocket, and monster energy drink shopping by MYSELF (A MAN FYI) and I WILL NOT be shamed by you
pepperonijabroni ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:51:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You got any luck warming the inside of the hot pockets? Mine are always brick
dethkon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but it involves a combination of microwave, toaster oven, and placing them inside your gaming rig for the finish (the key is to make sure it warms nicely on your video card but the cheese doesn't ooze out on to it)
ddaug4uf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:46:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would argue that women tend to have more specific items targeted at them as well.
SOURCE: There are eleven tubes, bottles and containers of stuff in mine and my fiancรฉโs shower; 2 of them are mine (soap and 2-in-1 shampoo/conditioner).
cobrabb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gotta get that 3 in 1 brah
ddaug4uf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Occasionally, when I donโt realize there is no more soap, it is 3-in-1!
face_doctor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:26:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's step down through this.
Why are you sure that the majority of people that do the grocery shopping are women?
zrrpbulb ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:34:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://plma.com/2013PLMA_GfK_Study.pdf
In the US, at least.
pepperonijabroni ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:36:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.hartman-group.com/press-release/57/food-shopping-in-america-report
The gap is closing but it still favors women as primary grocery shoppers. Now realize that soap operas first came out in the 1950s and ask yourself if traditional gender roles were more prominent in traditional America.
crimeo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:10:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go to grocery stores. Get data. Find out that one gender buys more X. The end.
In the case of soap operas, we don't need to actually do that, because obviously soap executives were not idiots and would have been operating off of exactly that data, as implied by soap operas being a thing.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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pepperonijabroni ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:37:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By my demographic bubble do you mean America?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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pepperonijabroni ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So then it makes sense for American soap operas in the 1950s to advertise to traditional gender roles of America that are statistically backed?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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pepperonijabroni ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with wanting to do laundry well, keep your husband happy, and be accepted by your other female friends?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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pepperonijabroni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sort of like how you're inferring that it's bad to want to do that?
sweetjaaane ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:05:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but that doesn't make targeting genders not sexist. Like it may be justified but it is sexist.
crimeo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:06:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody has to ever say that you SHOULD in order for it to still be true that women usually DID. Lots of things are true without anyone ever having needed to dictate that they SHOULD be true. (I'm sure plenty chose to say women should buy soap anyway, but it's not inherent to the gender roles themselves)
Is water being made out of hydrogen and oxygen bigoted against sulfur?
dethkon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:57:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because I shower once a week at best and your trying to send me a message but SORRY IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MY 70 HOURS OF GAMING PER WEEK IS VERY IMPORTANT JANE AND ALSO THEY DO IT LIKE THAT IN EUROPE YOU HORRID BALL BUSTER YOU'RE JUST LIKE MY MOM
btw can u pick me up a 6 pack of monster and and some totinos? plz make sure they're the right kind this time. Brb another round is about to start.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just learned something new today. :)
GrubGrower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soap operas were weekly stories, written on washing powder boxes. Way before TV and radio.
gnarlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always associated the soap part of soap opera to be the bubbles.
Quaz122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you Uncle John! I still have my bathroom readers too!
DatCancerCell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Jarppakarppa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
SpankableGoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whaaat!? Thatโs crazy. I never knew that.
426763 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still do it in my country.
whyprofessorwhy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes much more sense than what my English teacher said... that it's called that because the dramas are as short and trivial as soap bubbles lol
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ha ha!
BAXterBEDford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid we had a maid who would watch her soaps while doing the ironing. Ajax had the commercials I liked. They seemed to have an obsession with making things white:
The White Knight laundry detergent.
White Tornado floor cleaner.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great ads. I remember the Ajax liquid was still doing the white tornado thing in the 70s. When my brothers and I wanted to clean our room quickly, we pretended to be the white tornado.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make your whites as white as they can be!
Dankany ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real TIL are in the comments.
GPedia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'unno man, here in India more'n half the ads are still face wash and herbal soup ads...
AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should have specified laundry soap.
GPedia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh don't worry, we get a lot of those too.
GunnyH1GHway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still have soap opers bro.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meaning what?
tyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have a source? I tried googling this but only found the Wikipedia article with an unlinked citation to โBowles, p. 118โ.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No source. Just something I remembered hearing from my advertising brother.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered where the term came from! Thank you!
Egglady2000 ยท 223 points ยท Posted at 23:04:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The cc line on an email is an acronym that stands for carbon copy. When I first learned to use a mechanical typewriter as a child, before Xerox machines, my grandfather gave me nice typing paper, but also sheets of paper coated with carbon on one side. To make a carbon copy, you carefully placed the carbon paper in between two pieces of paper, being careful to put the carbon coated side facing down. Each strike of a the typewriter key imprinted a copy on the second piece of paper. A typical typewriter could handle up to 2-3 sheets of paper, layered with carbon. At the end of the letter, proper etiquette required a cc: line. On this line, you would type cc: followed by the names of all the people receiving a copy. Now if you didn't want the original recipient to know that you were sending out copies, you would not type a cc: line, and this was known as a "blind carbon copy" which we now know as the bcc: line.
wildhotdog ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:08:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Banging away. I forgot about that until just now. One of my typewriters didn't give enough force to get through more than one carbon paper. So I had to literally bang away to get each letter to go through.
And God forbid you put the carbon paper in there wrong, you'd have to re-do the whole thing. And don't get me started on trying to use white out over it.
I heard a college student not too long ago saying he was banging away on the computer all night trying to write a last minute essay. I thought to myself, kid you have no idea what it meant to really bang away. Then my next thought was he was banging himself watching porn. But then my daughter told me the correct word for that was fapping away. I'm seriously not even old.
Edit: added stuff
redpandaeater ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:38:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet most young people don't realize the Pokemon Ditto is purple because of ditto machines. The most common dye for those was analine purple, also called mauveine.
Car-face ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:43:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're they the ones that smelled great? I remember in early High school our teacher getting the shits because as soon as he walked in the class with a batch of fresh ditto copies, the first thing everyone did was pick them up and smell them.
redpandaeater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah they smelled great.
Nameis-RobertPaulson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:06 on December 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 25, and I'd literally never heard of a ditto machine before your comment.
redpandaeater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:38 on December 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The more generic term is spirit duplicator. They worked pretty well if you just needed <50 copies of something, since the dye is actually in wax on the original so you couldn't make a ton of copies. My school had one. They smelled great too because of the solvents used to get the dye out of the wax.
SheeEttin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:54:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nowadays people say it stands for "courtesy copy"... But we know better.
sykopoet ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:54:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a vague memory of being a small child with black hands from carbon paper. I don't know what I destroyed to get that way, but I'm sure it was fun.
craftytramp ยท 8558 points ยท Posted at 19:34:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Put a sock in it" - Originally referencing dampening the sound of gramophones with socks (as they had no volume control)
EDIT: we did it Reddit!
niconiconeko ยท 2637 points ยท Posted at 22:58:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow I always thought it was some sort of riff on a punishment for noisy kids haha, like โput a sock in your mouth, you noisy cretinโ. This is much better!
custardgash ยท 149 points ยท Posted at 23:29:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. I always imagined some asshole drunk dad shoving a sock in his kids mouth
Spoon_Elemental ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 23:31:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now I remembered things :(
ferxous ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:44:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooookkk
Spoon_Elemental ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:46:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Monkey want a banana?
ferxous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
alright alright
thc216 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't use the M word around him...he doesn't like it!
Spoon_Elemental ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"It" doesn't start with an "M" silly billy.
paintballer18181 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No... I don't want a banana
ferxous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:16:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Spoon_Elemental ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:29:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't joking either. My moms boyfriend shoved a sock in my mouth, put duct tape over it, duct taped my hands behind my back and plugged my nose with a clothespin because I had a cold and he didn't like it when I sniffled.
bexyrex ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:40:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
O.o
Even tho I totally get that these things happen and have experienced similar degrees of abuse I just don't get HOW other people do such atrocious things.
Luckily (?) for me I was always tiny and easy to overpower. But when my brother would get beatings my mom used to tie him up in the bathroom and THEN beat him.
Cheers!/s
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Spoon_Elemental ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:54:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's not one solid answer for that. Some people like to boil it down as such, but there a really a multitude of shitty reasons to be shitty.
MsAnnabel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just fucking cringe when I hear how people abuse their kids. I canโt comprehend how they can be so torturous to their own babes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kid is only 9 months old, but I've had quite a few frustrating moments with him. I think that every parent has. I've never done anything to harm him though. I always remind myself that he's a baby and nothing is his fault, he's just tiny and defenseless.
I think that some people don't stop to empathize with the child that is in their care and at their mercy. You're the adult, you're supposed to be keeping them safe and raising them. You're allowed to be frustrated, you're allowed to be mad, you're not allowed to harm your kid just because you're angry or frustrated.
Some people are just pieces of shit though and they enjoy abusing their kids.
I haven't even been frustrated with him for quite a few months, I think that it just took some time for my dad instincts to kick in.
echisholm ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:11:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my 1st step father did that to me when I was 8. I hate that fuck.
jambox888 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:35:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I thought that too but didn't realize until just then...
Dason37 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:57:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, yours is much better
Kazu_the_Kazoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I always thought it was that, probably because when I was a little girl my brother and his friend held me down and stuffed a dirty sock in my mouth and Iโd never felt so helpless in my life before. What a memory.
bobthebuilder1121 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:21:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debatable
InformationMagpie ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 00:01:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is debatable. Also I have never seen any gramophone-contemporary media that has someone doing that, and I consume a lot of gramophone-contemporary media.
KernelTaint ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:11:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I actually in all seriousness own an Edison gramophone and have never put a soak inside it.
FlatDerrick ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:23:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a good job too, all that water would surely ruin it!
roastbeeftacohat ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 23:15:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hear I thought it was about useing a sock as a ball gag.
Zanderthaw ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 23:30:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Here I thought it was about using a sock as a ball gag."
zip_000 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 00:09:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're lying about being a bot to avoid being called a grammar nazi aren't you?
TedUpvo ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:21:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/Zanderthaw is a bot.
Beep boop, I'm a bot.
xotyona ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:42:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good Bot
spyfox321 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:51:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone on reddit is a bot except you.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best.
XanaxBlackoutAccount ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:09:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe you.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:21:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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UltraChilly ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:43:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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luke_in_the_sky ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:07:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my country they use "change the disc" when a person is being annoying and repeating the same thing. When a vinyl disc is damaged, the needle of the turntable could be locked on a groove and repeat the same part over and over.
goldgibbon ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:25:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in English we call someone "a broken record" when they repeat themselves
tonydelamancha ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:16:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in Spanish it's "un disco rayado", a scratched record/CD!
CodyS1998 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm for Freedomland
goldgibbon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from America too.
llewkeller ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:06:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure? I always envision a criminal jamming a sock or rag in a captive's mouth to keep them from screaming.
319Skew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Envision " right
Flounder4338 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:20:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still put socks in wind instruments like saxophones to mute them.
DeapVally ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:01:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Urm, It's still a thing.... That's how bass works on speakers. Does nothing for a tweeter, but if you block the air port (generally with sponges these days, cut to size) it dampens the bass (i.e. woofer) massively. My stereo speakers came with them, but I don't use them because I listen to mainly electronic music. Cheap ones won't (so you'd have to use a sock) but if you spend some money, they certainly will!
Look at the bass drum of rock bands. Sometimes you see blankets and pillows In there. Same principle.
George_H_W_Kush ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:51:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, always thought that referred to shoving a sock in someoneโs mouth to gag them for my entire life.
SkyPork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit!
tcpip4lyfe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neat
TheGreatNico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it meant to gag someone work a sock
monamieberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put a sock in the wife when it's freaky friday.
Saint_Oopid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd been wondering how we might mute ours a bit -- it's remarkably loud for having no electricity to amplify it. Thanks for the idea, and the factoid!
grimhawkmusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hate to tell ya buddy but no one says put a sock in it anymore lol
That is interesting though
craftytramp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:02:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wise guy eh?
grimhawkmusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put a sock in it dude
BLTM8192 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Karl?
Theycallmenoone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:15:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's "damping," not "dampening." The sock isn't making it wetter.
RikVanguard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Putting a sock in your mom's mouth certainly makes her wetter
Theycallmenoone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:52:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just happy she's happy.
rennez77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
Secksiignurd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:40:45 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who downvoted us? I didn't know that until now, which makes it a true TIL moment.
rennez77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:17:08 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know but it made me giggle. Reddit is weird.
Secksiignurd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:46 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True.
Secksiignurd ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:01:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
Heroshade ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:15:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see a (load 10 more comments) and below that a (load 29 more comments,) so I won't make the obvious masturbation joke that this comment obviously is.
standardize_human ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:26:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pee wadding. Am I close?
peepay ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard that phrase.
squigs ยท 13280 points ยท Posted at 16:58:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once upon a time, a wiretap required putting a device on a physical piece of wire connected to a phone.
iluvstephenhawking ยท 6979 points ยท Posted at 18:37:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now we just have our microwaves do it.
alamohero ยท 3007 points ยท Posted at 20:32:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Alexa
Elubious ยท 1209 points ยท Posted at 20:43:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xbox, can't forget Xbox.
ixmagine ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 20:56:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, thanks for reminding me to unplug my kinect.
Gulag-Archipenis ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 21:11:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
unplugs Kinect โMy mind is going Daveโ
NiggyWiggyWoo ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:38:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I am a...fraid.
Profoundpanda420 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 21:01:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I canโt let you do that, sir
Why_is_this_so ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 21:05:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please drink verification can of Mountain Dew.
Ianmccarthief ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:24:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've no idea how happy I am to see someone reference that.
nBob20 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 21:24:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's only referenced about 12 times daily.
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:32:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is it referencing?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FreshChilled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't they do something like that in Idiocracy too? I don't remember the scene well, so I get them mixed up
Jehovah___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it just really seems like it belongs
Oxideist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:16:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it also a YouTube video
baswimmons ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:27:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel sick whenever I read it
Ianmccarthief ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's coming... It's coming soon.
NorthKoreanCuisine ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:58:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mountain Dew is for me and you
Lone_wanderer111 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:12:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cortana uses just the mic now...
ixmagine ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:14:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There isn't a mic on the actual Xbox (one) though, is there?
Lone_wanderer111 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 21:15:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not that they tell you about...
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:31:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Lone_wanderer111 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:37:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the one x. It's vapor cooled. Definitely has a mic and a toaster oven
ryan2point0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it had a second ir camera too
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
remember when germany banned it because of the ir camera?
ryan2point0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. In the unit itself. Not the kinect
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:12 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dude one things for sure, no one technically gets away with crime anymore.
JCBh9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cortana uses your soul
Marvelman1788 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:41:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of Xbox it named as such to be 'Direct- X Box' which was the Microsoft software that most game engines used for PCs. The Xbox was then created to make a hardware format that wasn't subject to compatibility issues that could be found when running other software in a complete operating system like Windows. Now all Xboxs have Windows 10 so the name meaning doesn't really apply anymore but I the brand stuck.
V2G2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:47:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ignore Cortana!
--TheLady0fTheLake-- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:58:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Samsung TVs apparently
kingfrito_5005 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its all still so primitive though, my Xbox cant even share information with my microwave about me.
intraumintraum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
happy easter, xbox
robbie0630 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xbox, light!
darksomos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please drink verification can.
TehAlphaMale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PLEASE DRINK VERIFICATION CAN.
TheUplist ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 20:42:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask Apple, Samsung, and Google.
LandOfTheLostPass ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 21:20:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the book 1984, Orwell has Big Brother placing the listening devices in peoples' homes. He had no clue people would not only put those listening devices in their homes willingly, but pay for the privilege.
VRzucchini ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 21:35:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What Orwell failed to predictย is that we'd buy the cameras ourselves, and that our biggest fear would be that nobody was watching."
gnarlin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:56:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only currency still available to the masses is the attention of others that can be sold to the rich. The owners of everything.
RavensHotterThanYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is that a quote from?
VRzucchini ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keith Lowell Jensen on Twitter
Sick0fThisShit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or walk around with them in their pockets.
1pt21jigawatt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:19:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, now everyone knows I'm a badass Russian spy.
Seriously though how self-absorbed do you have to be to think they are using it for anything except how to advertise to you? All they care about is money. Nobody cares what hentai your gross ass masturbates to, or who you voted for.
They just want your money.
RavensHotterThanYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its just regular hentai actually
LandOfTheLostPass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The concern is never what they want to do now, it's what will be done with that data in the future. Sure, all of your activities may be legal now; however, if in the future a repressive regime wants to expunge certain people from society, it is much easier to accomplish if they have a pre-made list of those people.
At the risk of having you scream, "Godwin Rule" at me: Consider what a Jew in 1930's Europe might have done differently, if they had been aware of what was coming. At the time, while Jews were not exactly welcomed with open arms, there was no reason to hide the fact that one was Jewish. When the Nazi's came to power in 1934, many Jews probably wished they could hide their heritage.
Yes, we don't have anything like that on the horizon; however, can you guarantee to me that it will never happen? We've already had concentration camps in the US once. We've also had the US Government actively persecuting people for their political beliefs. We don't know what information about us will be abused in the future. The only way to prevent the abuse of that information is to not let it be collected in the first place.
Lagduf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huxley predicted this in Brave New World.
dtdroid ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:57:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the question.
Zuzlae ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:28:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
STOP LISTENING YOU GODDAMN WHORE
Tower_Climber_ ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:16:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"HEY, Wiretap, what is the capital of Somalia?"
"Okay.. The capital of Somalia is Mogadishu"
mumble... mumble... he's asking it stupid questions again boss...
sndndndndnd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:13:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or our Alexa powered microwaves for god sakes.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:10:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ALEXA! ORDER TWO TONNES OF CREAMED CORN!
NotGmoney5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:33:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NICE TO SEE YOU TALKING TO THE LEXIE OR WHATVER AMYZOON MAKES. AUNT BARB DIED TO LIVER CANCER
kate-plus-self-hate ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:24:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shit you not, my roommate called her Alexa a whore the other day, so it turned its volume all the way up and basically shouted "That's not a very nice thing to say!"
RavensHotterThanYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No way it turned the volume up. Can anyone else confirm?
magsfran ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:14:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who works on Alexa. It seems like none of that drivel is worth listening to... (people are super boring it turns out)
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:24:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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C4H8N8O8 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:31:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's what the cameras are for.
magsfran ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:14:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon are not selling your information because that information is all for them. They are the product, the business, the customer, and the seller. They don't need to sell to advertisers.
illtemperedklavier ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speech-to-text has gotten really good, storage is cheap, and text doesn't take up too much space. I'm guessing they're just data mining everything said in your house, and tailoring your recommendations accordingly.
B-Knight ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:17:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've put a camera in her now. People will still buy it. They make it easy for the spying agencies.
RedditYouVapidSlut ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:16:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was so sceptical about Alexa but got one bundles in with a 4k TV for like ยฃ500. Man, I have no idea what I'd do without her. Tap play on my phone like a peasent? No thank you.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 23:25:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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celsiusnarhwal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:59:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: Alexa isn't sending anything to Amazon until you say the wake word. You can prove this yourself using Wireshark or a similar tool.
They aren't the reason you're "losing your privacy" at all.
Midnight_Rising ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:02:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... What rights are going away with voice activated assistants, again? You do know they don't send all the data, right? They send a short preamble to the activation word, then the question until silence. Set up a packet sniffer if you don't believe it.
So as long as you don't say "Hey Google what's the weather gee willikers I can't wait until we kill the president!" it won't get transmitted... right?
RedditYouVapidSlut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ssssh bby is ok
Miffy92 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:31:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always a relevant XKCD.
KingNandito ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm confused about this one
Midnight_Rising ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:00:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People who don't understand technology or packet sniffing think that Alexa/Google Home/whatever are listening in and sending everything to their servers. This, of course, isn't true-- whenever this has happened (due to a hardware or software malfunction) it's been detected within minutes (just do a google search for the google mini always listening bug) and been fixed.
vladtaltos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Google, or Xbox, or....
CornerFlag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:41:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alexa, play "Digger Digger".
NotGmoney5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:33:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pussy anal cock dildo ringโ ALEXA STOP
themanyfaceasian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WELL I'M ON MY DOWNEASTER ALEXA
RavensHotterThanYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really obscure reference. Ballsy!
themanyfaceasian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recently watched Hangover 2 lol
RavensHotterThanYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:12 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I thought you were referencing the line in the Billy Joel song "the downeaster alexa" off his eleventh studio album, 1989's "Storm Front"
themanyfaceasian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:10 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes that song is in the movie ahaha
sesor33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people still think that Echos and google homes are constantly sending what they hear to their respective companies? The amount of bandwidth it would take to do that would be very noticeable, and itโs not like they can locally store it either without having a literal hard drive in them.
Dr_Golduck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They had the technology decades ago to spy on us through our TVs
info_mation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Androids
OrangeRealname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alexa, play digger digger
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey wiretap what's the weather?"
salamanderme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, I just asked my Alexa and she said she only sends information back to Amazon when I ask her to.
KIDDizCUDI ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:34:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't believe everything that's told to you.
Don't be so naive.
Notice the first video had her not answering the question with the 2nd video having an updated answer after a software update
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you were really concerned about privacy, you'd dump all of your electronics with microphones in them. Unlike HAL 9000's retarded cousin, it's proven that the NSA listens on you through said devices 24/7.
RavensHotterThanYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Proven or suspected?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vault 7 brah
salamanderme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, I'm aware that it's listening in on you. I actually was very surprised it gave me a legit answer when I asked it, though. They have some gall to lie flat out like that.
KIDDizCUDI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is they have to tell us what they're doing.
You just have to be aware
bhaanginkush ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 20:35:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turns off microwave. Goes to the tip. Bins microwave. Drives home. Leaves car. Walks to the woods. Builds hut. Bins black and decker
whats8 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:44:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Binning" will be lost on the heads of many, many users here, as the term has zero existence in the US or CA. Just wanted to point that out, because even though I'm familiar with it your post confused me on my first read.
ElVatoMascarado ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:55:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay well do you mind explaining what it is?
asking--questions ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:08:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chuck it in the bin, of course! Rubbish bin = Trash can
BTW, 'the tip' is a small municipal garbage dump.
ChefBoyAreWeFucked ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:36:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I knew what binning was, but no fucking clue what the tip was.
adantelf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:01:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It means to throw out
jrhooo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and the "tip". I'll be honest, I only know what "the Tip" is because of that Top Gear Episode.
https://www.topgear.com/videos/ultimate-caravanners-car-series-20-episode-5 at 5:10
pdsvwf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use "binning" and I am from the US. Admittedly, when I use the term I mean something more like "clumping data into groups to put on a histogram" rather than "throwing away"...
servohahn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:33:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Writes manifesto. Mails bombs to engineering professors.
notbob1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:54:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bins? You mean discards?
bhaanginkush ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I do. Thought it was a universal phrase tbh
notbob1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:05:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody in the US says bins but I'm sure we will in 5 years
disgusted_quiche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call it a bin. Way faster than "trash can" and I can remember it.
lovestospoogie ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:35:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for reminding me that this happened, it's been a wild year.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 20:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the Hell am I supposed to reheat my covfefe now?!
Therearenosporks ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:46:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama /s
So_Famous ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:19:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or our television.
cuckingfomputer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:58:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe its been less than a year.
Zen_wuzit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:47:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or depending on who you talk to, their toasters do it.
notbob1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:55:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give it 5 years for smart toasters
Veylon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:46:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once I would have laughed at the sheer silliness of such a concept.
WaffleApartment ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:15:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have smart crock pots. You get an app and turn it on/off or adjust it from high/low/keep warm. Real stuff.
Veylon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen them. I also did a search for "Smart Toaster" and there is something called that, but it's not actually a internet or bluetooth device.
RealPutin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Given how crockpots are useful for not being at home while cooking that's actually not fully absurd
czarnick123 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:41:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We joke.
I had a retired intelligence officer who told me they were doing that since the '70s. The technology was older than that too.
floatingwithobrien ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you saying there Friend
PoisedbutHard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All thanks to Snowden! ๐๐ป
Dman2244 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?
iluvstephenhawking ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:23:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ridiculous president of the united states said he thought the previous president was listening to him via microwave.
hm___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or Cameras from across the street: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKXOucXB4a8
iluvstephenhawking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no way I believe that
hm___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The data and code to do it are actually on their site so no need for you to 'believe' you can just reproduce it yourself: http://people.csail.mit.edu/mrub/VisualMic/#data
pdsvwf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found a youtube comment on that video that seems to match my suspicions, so I will quote it here without verification:
Credit to youtube commentor Ben Childs.
In short, I think a microphone is still probably a better choice for recording sound.
hm___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:55 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
of course a microphone is better but this proof of concept video is already more than 3 years old so its a safe bet that this stuff works better nowadays and the fact that even soundproof rooms can be wiretapped if theres only a semi soft object in the line of sight inside the room is sort of creepy
__RelevantUsername__ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its crazy idk if you have seen but this guy figured out how to use the structural resonance of any electronic item like a printer or anything and turn it into a microphone pretty much with this software and although its not super clear like it doesnt sound as good as a mic it is pretty fucking incredible he can hack into anything plugged in pretty much and relay that signal back.
Yvaelle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or every cell phone. Thatโs why Siri knows when to respond to her name, because she is always listening.
iluvstephenhawking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I always get ads on fb based on my conversations.
Yvaelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea exactly. Siri is a gossip, she talks about you to all the other big data players. Privacy is a comfortable lie we tell ourselves, the internet knows everything, it sees all, it is God.
Based_Scoot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like something out of r/kenm
Xandabar ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:20:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't it though? Unfortunately, it was said by the current President of the US.
Based_Scoot ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:31:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to get off Mr. Trumpโs Wild Ride
Veylon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:47:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There will be an opportunity to get off in three years. Don't screw it up.
aseemru ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:38:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't it Kellyanne?
HateBeingSober33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heโs not wrong you know..
Irovesoad ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:33:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still don't trust the mic mute button on my Google home. If I'm not using it for music it's unplugged and hidden away.
chaseoes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:51:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, that's what the hidden internal batteries are for.
Irovesoad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:53:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought of that when I made the post. Unless it's some godlike mic that can listen through concrete that my wifi won't work through I think I'm okay ๐ถ
jake354k12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explain this to me.
iluvstephenhawking ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:11:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obama was listening to him via microwave? Yes. He is wrong and insane.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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iluvstephenhawking ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:51:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was Obama using any type of technology to listen to Trump? No. That part is untrue.
anticusII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait was that one true or not? It's hard to keep it all straight.
Xandabar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:19:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's true that it was said, but the claim was false.
RoadhogBestGirl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:34:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC there were some sort of surveillance devices in Trump tower, but it was for the fucking mobsters living/conducting business there, not Trump.
iluvstephenhawking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:08:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Obama wasn't listening to Trump through microwaves.
robbzilla ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:33:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work with twin-ax.... two coaxial cables used to run data. We sometimes used vampire taps to splice in to the cable, which was a clamp that pierced the cable to add a node. Luckily I didn't mess with that stuff long.
nathanielKay ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:09:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw an awesome large scale shade structure that ran power over thick speaker wire, and used vamp taps to put an outlet anywhere they felt like it. Frikken genius.
Rocky87109 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 20:15:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work for a place maintaining their phone system where I could literally "wiretap" people's lines and listen to their conversations. You just attached a little connector with two prongs to a phone and hooked it up the DN spot on the MDF and then put the phone on speaker and you could hear them talk. I only did it for maintenance though of course!
Irovesoad ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:34:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a hilarious and simultaneously scary episode of black mirror.
Tauposaurus ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:45:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So basically a normal Black Mirror episode.
Irovesoad ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:54:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except for San Junipero. That's my favorite episode.
so-and-so-reclining- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's everybody's favorite episode
FrauAway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because it's about old ladies fuckin
_My_Angry_Account_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:26:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you can just use an inductive amp and you don't even have to touch the wires to listen to a call.
My friends freaked out when I showed them how they work.
niamulsmh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Show us... Can it do cell phones too?
Euchre ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:10:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you need to learn about the differences between analog and digital. With old analog cell phones, the 'inductive tap' was called an antenna, and anyone could listen. We use digital now, for pretty much just that reason. What people here are talking about is copper conductor based, DC low voltage analog telephony. Being electromagnetic signals sent down a wire, you can easily physically tap into them, or use induction to listen in. For anyone with fiber optic to the house, you're harder pressed to listen in without the help of the telco.
niamulsmh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Understood.
I have a question though, I see "important" people using bar unsmart phone that don't have an internet connection. Does it make it harder for a Telco to listen in on that? Or is it because it only limits the conversation between the caller, the called and the Telco?
Euchre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:32 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it is much easier to compromise a smartphone, because they generally use a few widespread operating systems that are fairly well known, complex, and thus have a lot of access to 'testbeds', and functions to exploit to compromise the software. With Android in particular, most of it is open source, so you can poke through the source to find a flaw. If something gains permissions to listen to your mic or interject itself into a call, then you're pretty much compromised. All this would be at the device level, so no special need to interject yourself as a 'man in the middle', or eavesdropping at the phone network level.
The basic phones (not smartphones) use much simpler, proprietary software (firmware, really). They're not much beyond electromechanical devices. At the device level, it is extremely hard if not impossible to interject yourself into a call. You'd have to interject yourself into the call at the network level, which isn't so trivial.
Modern digital cell conversations are a session based connection, and encryption is a native part of it. By compromising the smartphones, you can get the conversation from the pre and post encryption (outgoing vs incoming) point, so no dealing with breaking the encryption. Since 'dumb' phones virtually can't be compromised, you have to try to break the encryption, or trick the network into doing it for you. Now, the way the encryption is done, even for the telco it isn't trivial. That's by design, to discourage telcos from getting nosy.
niamulsmh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:15 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes total sense. Thanks. So I'll be looking for a Nokia 3310...
Pringleville ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:22:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if you only listen to "verify call quality", its not technically wiretapping.
dramboxf ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:40:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a lineman's butt set in my "telcom" knapsack. If I'm in your phone room, I can clip on to a 66-block and listen to any call I want.
cusscakes ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:53:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once upon a time, eavesdropping involved physically being in the eavesdrop, which was the area under a house's eaves in order to listen in on the conversations going on inside.
therevwillnotbetelev ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:49:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look up the US Navy โtappingโ of Soviet cables using divers, submarines and big old underwater boxes. They used inductance off the cables to transfer info to reels of tapes they had to sneak in and change out.
Itโs some pretty cool Cold War stuff, the Russians have one of the box thingys in a museum in Moscow
cole36912 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:44:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do the Russians have it if it was used by the US Navy?
The-True-Kehlder ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:02:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because the US Navy used it on Russian cable. I'm certain a few were found by Russians and they probably kept them.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:02:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THE GARDEN.
The_Nipple_Tickler ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:27:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOU BETTER WATCH YOOO BACK
no spoilers pls ive only seen season 1 so far
ridger5 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:42:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2007: They're listening to our calls! There is no privacy anymore!
2017: Hey Siri/Alexa/Google/Cortana, what was stupid question?
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:01:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Wire is such a good show.
The_Nipple_Tickler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck dude, I've been meaning to watch the rest. I've only watched season 1, and so far it's been some of the best tv I've ever seen. Hopefully once holidays start I can get going again. I miss me some Jimmy fuckin' McNulty!
DrunkRedditStory ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:13:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omar comin!
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The wire was a separate portable recording device that used metal wire as a medium. The common usage of "he's wearing a wire!" name refers to this device rather than a wiretap.
rab777hp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No in the show it's mostly about tapping phone lines
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:16:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Pringleville ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:25:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Buttset.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:30:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SharqZadegi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is this describing?
WhalesVirginia ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:24:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now the phone companies just pass all that information straight to government spy agencies.
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:28:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The program you're referring to collected metadata (a.k.a phone records), not actual call recordings. It was information the phone companies collect anyway and would have been available to even the local police with a warrant. The issue wasn't the information they were collecting, it was how they were collecting it (i.e. without a warrant).
0_0_0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:32:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your Wikipedia link:
The comment I'm replying to:
What I said it still completely accurate. The NSA's surveillance of phone lines was of metadata, not phone calls. I wasn't referring to their internet surveillance program.
WhalesVirginia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what Edward Snowden was on about then?
bsbbtnh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:30:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WAY more than that. Snowden showed us a lot of the secret surveillance programs. Some of the interesting ones are xKeyscore, where they can search essentially anything done on the internet. From emails, to google searches, who is using VPN/proxy/encryption. They showed that the US government were working very closely with Apple, Google, Skype, Facebook, Microsoft, and many others.
They showed that the US and UK had "broken into" the main communications link of Yahoo and Google. Those companies didn't encrypt their data. (When users would make a search, even with SSL encryption, after google got the request and sent it to their servers for processing, they wouldn't encrypt that. So NSA could see everything.) Those may not have been the only two companies that were compromised.
There are hundreds of sites around the world that were processing over 10 gigabits/s. Some over 2 terabits/s. And they were talking about upgrades to cables that can transmit 100 gigabits/s.
There is the stateroom project, which operated in embassies around the world, and gather information on many people. This is the project that was recording Angela Merkel's (German Chancellor) phone calls for over ten years.
Don't forget that many countries (France, Germany, US, UK, Canada, Australia etc) are "spying" on each other's citizens, and then passing that information on to the citizen's country, to bypass the need for warrants.
Anyways, back in 2013ish, basically everything on the net was being recorded and kept, somewhere, for at least 3 days, and metadata for at least 30. I can only imagine that the amount of time this data is kept has increased significantly.
If you want to read something scary, read about TIA (Total Information Awareness) from 2003 ish, which was basically the US attempt at precrime, some Minority Report type shit. They renamed it Terrorism Information Awareness after it came under scrutiny for being too broad. Then it was shut down, though many of its components were continued, and a successor named "Basketball" picked up about a year later.
Oh, and don't forget that to wiretap people nowadays, all the FBI has to do is point and click. They don't even have to bother the phone company anymore. Of course, they need a warrant..
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:35:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The comment I replied to:
Analyzing internet traffic and analyzing phone metadata were two separate programs. They didn't have a program in place to record all phone calls, they just collected metadata for phone calls. AT&T mobility is not the same division as the division of AT&T that provided Internet backbone services.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
VOIP is going to be in there, but the conversation is about phone records. If you have VOIP service from a traditional phone company, your phone records would be the same as a standard analog landline. The thing about AT&T you linked refers to their internet backbone services; it's a large chunk of all internet traffic, not just AT&T customers.
But even then, it's still not recording the traffic, it's analyzing the metadata in real-time; that's called Semantic Traffic Analysis, and again, it's similar to what ISPs are doing anyway.
We can be pretty sure that it wasn't recording traffic because it wouldn't have been possible to record hundreds of gigabits per second in 2004. And now, it wouldn't really be feasible to record several terabits per second either.
vladtaltos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And we did just that to a communication line that ran from a Soviet base in the north sea during the Cold War (operation ivy bells).
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/security/a25857/operation-ivy-bells-underwater-wiretapping/
0_0_0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:16:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the North sea, but the Sea of Okhotsk.
Mud_Landry ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:09:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now we buy the wiretap for hundreds and give them weird names like Alexa or Siri... also everyone used to say don't use your real name online or talk to strangers, nowadays most emails ARE people's names and we literally not only talk to strangers but we order them and get into their cars haha.. ohhh the future
white_android ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hooray for fiber optics!
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:31:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's entirely possible to tap fiber optics. It's just not done very much because it's much easier to tap the software sending the signals, and the information on the cables can be encrypted.
pehvbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But 'having a wire' (i.e. a recording device) was because the original spooled magnetically written and read media was made of wire not tape.
Krail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More specifically, sound would be recorded as grooves in the wire, the same way it's recorded as grooves in a record.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:27:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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outphase84 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:18:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every single thing you typed here is factually incorrect.
MartianPortal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nixon, how'd you get in here?
jrm2007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My understanding was that "wearing a wire" did not have to do with like antenna but rather the wire was the recording medium instead magnetic tape.
congelar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likewise.. the Pen Register used to physically hold a pen to write on paper.
slendernyan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought your suggestion was once upon a Time and you were explaining that its technical meaning is a wiretap
judgej2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A wire tap involved tapping a wire, strangely enough.
P0sitive_Outlook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those things are still used nowadays. My buddy uses one with his [secret work]. Digital signals can 'leak' down the power cables of computers etc, so it's possible to 'tap' the wires and make out some details from what's being transmitted. Scary stuff!
Pgaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once upon a time, "tapping" referred to putting a pipe in a fluid vessel (like a tree) and putting a spigot into it.
tahlyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And "tapping" is a phrase that literally means what you think it does... you tap into the existing wire to put something on it. Electricians still regularly do Taps (T-Taps, for example) to splice things into existing wires. And for some industries, like fire alarm... T-tapping is NOT the preferred method for adding devices.
sckurvee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People got all bent out of shape when Trump said he didn't mean he was literally wire tapped when he said he was wire tapped... It made perfect sense when you think about it in this sense, but it was a much funnier headline to imply he was being a buffoon.
dk133333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair.....it still works that way, you just have to get into the CO or tap the "port" for their cell phone at the local switch.
jebuz23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I always pictured the process still involved this some how. I know that's dumb since everything is digital and wireless, but I still picture someone physically touching the phone wire for some reason.
archiminos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This wasnโt even that long ago as well.
Rayfax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this was demonstrated in one of the Fullmetal Alchemist series. I can't remember if it was the original or Brotherhood, but now that scene with Hawkeye and Sheska makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought I was like taping a tree, you insert a listening device in the trunk line but is small enough the leaves don't care.
theaveragetexan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still have these. They are basically buttsets in the telecommunications world. I use one all the time at work. It even has sharp teeth in the alight or clips so I don't have to strip the red/green or what ever pair it's on.
mrbkkt1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once upon a time a wiretap required a warrant as well.
squigs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I like to think there was a time where civil liberties meant basic rights rather than what the government thought it could get away with.
mrbkkt1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought we, as a population would fight for our rights. Now we give them up willingly.
jrhooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in computing a "vampire tap" is still taught. Same thing.
BelongingsintheYard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have old phones on the chairlifts. Have tapped them. Of course our old phones are basically two cans on a string.
bothunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much anything having to do with phones: "dialing" a number, "hanging up" the phone, or even going "on-line"
vezokpiraka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a landline, a physical device is still needed for a wiretap.
squigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I would have thought that this could be done mostly in software at the exchange.
vezokpiraka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really understand what you mean, but I'll try to explain anyway.
If a wire is connected from point A to B and used for communication, it is absolutely secure unless someone physically connects to it.
By landline I meant a wire, not exactly a landline. Those are connected to a central building that does the switching. You still need physical access to the line, but because the place where they make the connection is not secret, it's easy to intercept messages.
RJwhores ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 20:41:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you've just trigged a bunch of left wing lunatics
1NegativeKarma1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coming from a person who believes Obama spied on the Trump Admin through a microwave, this very much hurt my feelings.
muscles8252 ยท 27955 points ยท Posted at 17:12:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movie trailers used to be shown at the end of a movie. Now they're shown before the movie, so the name doesn't make sense.
elusivefalsetto ยท 5825 points ยท Posted at 21:55:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the 1950s when I was a little boy, the movie theater was always a double feature - your ticket bought you two movies (including the drive-in). A couple of cartoons preceded the first movie and trailers were played in-between movies.
codered6952 ยท 3772 points ยท Posted at 22:14:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's where all the Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies shorts came from. They're in color because they were created on film before color TV was a thing.
cyanblur ยท 744 points ยท Posted at 23:01:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also used to be required to include songs from the Warner Bros library.
thedefinitionofidiot ยท 602 points ยท Posted at 23:29:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hence tunes and melodies.
syanda ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 23:42:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit.
PointyOintment ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 23:43:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were created to promote their companies' music libraries.
Gambit9000 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:50:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, tied in advertising isn't new.
BlueAux ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 23:55:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's exactly why "the Mandela effect" of people thinking Looney Tunes was called Looney Toons is complete bs!
codered6952 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:43:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't be surprised if the shortening of "cartoons" to "toons" was aided by the public's familiarity with Looney Tunes. Or it could just be a play on words.
justthebloops ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:38:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the word "cartoon" originally meant:
Classical artists like Raphael and Leonardo Da Vinci created "cartoons".
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:08:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Mandela effect in total is complete pseudoscience. Every single instance is such an extreme jump to conclusions. i know ockham's razor is not a scientific principle, nor should it be the end all say all of claims, however, using it as common sense obliterates these claims. I find it interesting that many of the pieces of "evidence" are that almost all Mandela effects have appeared in the Simpsons or similar shows. From this, I like to personally call it the "Simpsons" effect, because my personal hypothesis of the situation (not supported by any evidence mind you), is that the Simpsons or another pop culture satire would make a joke about something, either change the reference to suit the joke, or get the reference wrong plain and simple. And because lots of people would watch this, as well as this being the latest version of the reference/media they remember, they would just assume it matches the original. I am also a supporter of the idea that it is just the brain filling in the context, thus changing things are for simplicity (i.e. luke i am your father makes more sense out of context than no I am your father) cause the effect. edit: I don't english well
bsbbtnh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:01:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, the mandela effect isn't pseudoscience unless you see it solely attached to the people who seriously think we're just jumping between dimensions, or w/e. But many don't take it that serious, they just pretend to.
I just see Mandela Effect to mean 'A commonly misremembered detail'. Something similar to Deja Vu.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should have clarified that this post was referenced to those who truly believe the Mandela effect to be proof of alternative dimensions (Mainly the people who hear about this probably from people joking around and take it as fact)(I am also not saying that this means alternative dimensions don't exist (I don't know my stance on this), just that use of the Mandela effect as evidence is crazy). I do agree it is a fun thought experiment, but I fail to see any real value beyond that. I was tempted to add this on as an edit, but thought it was already long enough.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people actually believe in the Mandeka effect as that alternate universe shit? I assume most are joking on them just remembering shit wrongly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am sure there are some who actually believe this, but it is probably a small harmless minority.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Kind of like flat earthers without the conspiracy theory.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there are way to many youtube videos on that for everyone to be trolls. Its really sad actually.
Petrichordates ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:58:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Occam's, but I do believe parsimony is considered a scientific principle, given that it's applicable to all logic.
Arsenic777 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:12:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both spellings are correct actually
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_of_Ockham
mwenechanga ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:59:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna go with the simpler one then.
Petrichordates ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:00 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, thanks.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The parsimony principle is a scientific principle, but I am not sure how well it stands outside of biology. I only remember it for evolutionary trees needing to be the simplest they can be, however, that doesn't mean it is not at all used in other sciences. I am also not saying the concepts of simpler answers the better does not apply in science (in regards to including as much evidence as possible), just that it is not as cut and dry as occam's (thanks for correcting me) razor would imply. edit:clarification Wikipedia occam's razor in science "In science, Occam's razor is used as a heuristic guide in the development of theoretical models, rather than as a rigorous arbiter between candidate models.[1][2] In the scientific method, Occam's razor is not considered an irrefutable principle of logic or a scientific result; the preference for simplicity in the scientific method is based on the falsifiability criterion. For each accepted explanation of a phenomenon, there may be an extremely large, perhaps even incomprehensible, number of possible and more complex alternatives. Since one can always burden failing explanations with ad hoc hypotheses to prevent them from being falsified, simpler theories are preferable to more complex ones because they are more testable"
Petrichordates ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:41 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well of course, no one acts like Parsimony is 100% correct. But it is a very important guiding principle of all of science.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:41 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yah, I agree with that
HenryKushinger ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/iamverysmart
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
insert obligatory modified "to be fair you have to have a very high iq" quote
flichter1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:10:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Part of the problem is that the later "Tiny Toons" didn't keep with the "Tune" spelling. I was old enough to notice the spelling by the time I was watching Tiny Toons, so I retroactively assumed it was Looney Toons as well.
riss85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whaaaaaat?! I could have sworn it was!
BlueAux ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:07:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure Tiny Toons threw a lot of people for a loop.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:06:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Lacriphage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I distinctly remember Loony Tunes
PM_ME_UR_VULTURES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the 90โs spin off is Tiny Toons, which might be where the confusion is coming from?
JCBh9 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:13:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was cool... How you guys were speaking.... until you know WHO fked it up.... :)
Platypuslord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looney Tunes - not toons in cartoon but tunes as in music.
koryface ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:50:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would that also explain Silly Symphonies?
alphaheeb ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:51:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:43:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Merry Melodies.
signedup2comment ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're all "cartunes"
ancientcreature2 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:30:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Space Jam
AlwaysNowNeverNotMe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:19:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Loony Tunes
Starring
The loony toons
codered6952 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep! A lot of folks think it's "Toons" but it's a reference to the music.
HenryKushinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/woahdude
Wheresmyburrito_60 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hence Looney Tunes, not Looney Toons
RayWencube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:30 on December 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HOLY SHIT
RedOtkbr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't make racist cartoons like they used to... sigh.
LHOOQatme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:40:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were actually made to showcase the Warner Bros music library
llewkeller ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:55:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that practically all early TV cartoon shows were also recorded in color, even though they were never in theaters, and played on early TV in black and white. I think the reason is - the "ink and painter" artists had to painstakingly produce each cell for filming, and it's just as easy to 'paint' in color, as in shades of gray. So the only difference in cost would have been the difference between color and B&W film, which I suspect, was not that great.
The big expense for color TV, when the transition came (NBC first in the late 50s, then the other 2 networks in the mid 60s) was in the technology needed for broadcasting in color, not the comparable cost of filming...though there was a difference there, too.
There were a few early live-action TV shows filmed in color, possibly because the producers thought they would be more valuable for sale in the color-future. Oddly, one such show was the otherwise rock-bottom budget "Superman" with George Reeves, in the early 50s.
Dan-de-lyon ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:52:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa
Chopstick2U ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:34:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the incredible Max Fleischer Superman cartoons.
You can watch a ton of them on YouTube, even the kinda racist ones.
Willziac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why Betty Boop was always black and white?
5bi5 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:50:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ONE Betty Boop was made in color. It was too cost-prohibitive to use Technicolor technology so Fleischer studios figured out how to do it on their own. They really only figured out shades of orange and blue. She has red hair in it instead of black:
Poor Cinderella -- 1934
codered6952 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:39:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Betty Boop was pretty early in the 1930's. They may not have bothered to color the cels since even film was black and white then.
neonKow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap. How have I never realized it was spelled this way? I always thought it was "Toons". It's the Berenstain Bears all over again.
critchie1541 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YouTube rewind anyone?
exocortex ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐คฏ
willin_dylan ยท 258 points ยท Posted at 22:23:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Drive-In where I live still does double features
dzzi ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 22:26:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs still a drive in where you live?
willin_dylan ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 22:29:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe they close for the winter but yes there is.
Einsteins_coffee_mug ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 22:48:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs because the colder weather slows down the air molecules which inhibits the radio waves carrying the audio to the cars. The light from the projector isnโt affected due to light being so fast, so thereโs a lag between the video and audio which makes it unwatchable and I just made all that up.
AtariDump ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:06:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/ShittyAskScience needs you
lastnightscorn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:44:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is more /r/explainlikeimcalvin
IAmNedKelly ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 22:53:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn dude you're like the Einstein of fake science.
BlarghBlarg ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:28:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought this was bullshit because I remember going to the drive in when I was a kid in the winter. Then I thought perhaps the fact that I grew up near the equator meant it didn't get cold enough for this to occur, then I read you made it up and I was duped.
Prick.
The_Grubby_One ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:42:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY.
uncanneyvalley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐ Zoop!
PocoCarbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐
UnbiasedAgainst ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:03:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would've been more believable if radio waves and light weren't the same thing, but I liked your confidence.
confuseum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:40:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like his moxie, you'll do fine here kid!
cheapschnapps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I totally fell for it and was confused how the one I went to in Winter possibly could have functioned...
I_Have_Unobtainium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They could just play the audio slightly ahead of the video
InstantNoodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuker
Gambit9000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a drive-in theater within a respectable driving distance of me. I saw Batman vs Superman before getting to see Deadpool for the fifth time on a fun little date, it was a great time.
1212121212121212127 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:32:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have one too. Used to get there with the BMW of my father. Can you believe that you can't turn off your lights when the car isn't completely shut down? If the battery is running and you turned on AC you can't turn off the lights. I learned that in a very cold night.
MontanaIsForBadasses ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:39:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This probably doesnโt do you any good now but setting the parking brake would most likely have turned them off. Thatโs how it worked on my VW.
QuerulousPanda ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:05:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It blows my mind how rarely people use their parking brakes. My driving instructor (both in the UK and then in the US) stressed using it by default in basically every circumstance.
These days I never see people using them, and I can't imagine why not.
Jewsafrewski ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:10:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine doesn't work
Yeldarbris ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:43:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe that people aren't taught the basic things I was taught in high school driver's education.
Push down on the accelerator pedal when going uphill to compensate for the drop in speed.
Let off the accelerator pedal when going downhill to compensate for the increase in speed.
Get on the freeway at freeway speeds.
Always set the parking brake when parked. If driving a manual transmission car, set the parking brake and leave the car in neutral.
Slower traffic keep right. (there are no qualifiers to this, just keep right)
There are so many more, but I'm already doomed for saying what I've said...
QuerulousPanda ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:15:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even just using the indicator. It's such a trivial, simple motion to use them, but the resulting safety and convenience for everyone involved is so significant.
BorrowedInk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When driving a manual, put the edge of your foot on the brake and roll it onto the accelerator while letting off the clutch. This is how I learned to drive when I was a teenager, and it became habit. I still don't get why people roll back, even if just a little.
Yeldarbris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because nobody taught them how to use a clutch properly, how to stop on a hill without rolling back with a manual clutch, to speed up to freeway speed when merging on to a freeway, one car length is not worth it, etc, etc.
Today one of the best deterrents for car theft is a manual transmission, because the thieves can't drive them. How sad is that?
P.S. What you're describing is called "heel and toe", and is not just used to keep a car on a hill, but also for downshifting while braking and downshifting going into a corner (used a lot, at least by me).
If you use your heel on the brake and your toe(s) on the gas, you have a lot more control overall and you don't have to roll your foot. Imagine your foot like this: / with your heel on the brake and your toes on the gas. Then you can brake with your leg and gas with your foot. Works a treat, I swear it.
Good cars have this in mind when placing the pedals. Cheap cars do not, but you can still find ways to do it.
northlane87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not park with your stick shift in a gear such as first, second, or reverse?
Yeldarbris ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:09:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because, if for any reason at all, your car started, it would mean that it would move.
Why even take the chance? (don't make me link instances where cars have started by themselves, just google it)
If the car is in neutral and the handbrake/emergency brake is engaged, nothing at all happens except the engine starts and gas gets consumed.
If the car is in gear and the engine starts, the car will move unless the handbrake/emergency brake is engaged and functioning correctly.
If the car is in gear and the engine starts and the the brake is not engaged or malfunctioning, who knows what might happen?
Two negative results versus one positive with the added bonus of all you had to do was nothing. Why would you even consider an alternative? |
northlane87 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:13:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have heard some pretty far fetched stories as a tech, but never a car starting by itself. Even if that was possible, the engine running at idle rpm would stall out almost immediately. And for that not to happen the starter would need to be stuck on magically?
I_Have_Unobtainium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:06:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some cars might be able to move at idle in first gear, but probably not be able to overpower the emergency brake. I doubt anything could move in anything other than 1st though.
Yeldarbris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the entire point. Engage the brake. Just in case. Not because it's going to happen. Just in case. Why take a chance?
I_Have_Unobtainium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fully understand that aspect of it, I just disagree with the need to leave the car in neutral. I've never heard of a car turning itself on automatically, and I've driven multiple cars that have e-brake failures once they get old enough. A loose or broken cable is infinitely more common than a car magically starting itself.
I would rather have my car in first or reverse with the e-brake on. In that case, the gear can prevent the car from moving after the brake fails, and even if the car essentially bump-starts itself, coasting downhill in 1st is better than coasting in neutral anyways (because the car is then engine braking while rolling downhill). Or just throw it in reverse when facing downhill and 1st whole facing uphill. If you're that paranoid, it's extra protection against bump-starts. Even if that somehow destroys the transmission if the brake fails, that's still better than a totalled car.
And if the car automatically turns itself on magically and then drives away while in gear, somehow overcoming the e-brake? Fuck it, I'm pretty sure at that point I'm suing my cars manufacturer anyways.
Yeldarbris ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:13:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care what reasons you use for ignoring the recommendations and suggestions of people who know way better than you. You do your thing, champ. Good luck.
I_Have_Unobtainium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:24:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well in that case, I decided to look up the information that my cars manufacturer recommended, since they know so much more than me.
It's almost like some of us who drive stick actually take the time to comprehend how the engine and transmission work on our vehicles, before making decisions on how to use it.
Thoughts?
E - And now that we are on the topic of thinking, why do you think they developed automatic transmissions with a "park" option instead of just leaving it in neutral? Why can't you remove your key in an automatic until it's in park? Because nothing good can come from leaving a vehicle in neutral with only a brake holding it in place.
Yeldarbris ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:57:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You used the instructions for parking on a hill, not for just parking. They're more specific and I can't believe you think nobody would notice.
I_Have_Unobtainium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:21 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, I just assumed you were going to do some abstract thinking here and actually contemplate what we are talking about. I didn't realize your arguments would amount to (a) "I don't care what reasons you use" instead of actually discussing the rationale, and (b) nitpicking a single word out of my owner's manual to hide your lack of understanding of the concepts involved here, and disinterest in using your cognitive abilities.
I guess I was just looking to have someone stop and think about what we are talking about, and use that big old brain of theirs to actually talk things through. Maybe if someone actually came along and gave a rational argument as to why I could be wrong, then I would reconsider. But some trivial comments like yours just reinforce people's opinions, because you aren't actually giving any counter point.
But oh well. Look at the bright side - as long as you personally use an automatic and are forced to use the failsafe that is designed into the transmission, then you won't have to use your brain and think to use the transmission failsafe on a manual that is legitimately the exact same thing.
Yeldarbris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:36 on December 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure you felt all smug and self-righteous as you labored over the proper words to choose. Since you realized I don't care what you think, how did you fail to take that into account while you lamely tried to insult me? Put the parking brake on, that is its entire reason for being there. The transmission isn't for holding a car on a hill, I don't care what you say. You obviously are great at being rude and snide on the internet, but you suck at knowing anything about the mechanical parts of a car and what their purpose is or how to use them.
Don't bother with another snide remark, you're blocked
I_Have_Unobtainium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:42 on February 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Alrighty, sounds good.
compounding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its actually because many people start the car (clutch down) and then immediately lift up their foot. If the car is left in gear, it will lurch forward even despite the parking break and potentially hit something (not to mention the wear on the clutch and transmission).
Yeldarbris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There have been multiple cases of this happening and causing accidents. I don't care if you believe me. I've driven a car across a farm on the starter with the car in reverse before. Go ahead and tell me I haven't. Jesus Christ, Reddit. Do some damn research, use common sense, stop being so caustic.
northlane87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I looked it up, very few and far between. Iโm skeptical of many people are claiming this for the shock value alone. I would argue itโs still worth it for everyone else to park in gear if youโre not part of the one in a million with one of these magic cars. If your park brake fails, which it can, it would be nice to have a redundancy in place to keep your car from becoming a rolling projectile. Thatโs not even to mention turning your wheels into the curb on a hill.
Yeldarbris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way the parking brake will fail is some serious mechanical issues. If your car has serious mechanical issues, you shouldn't be driving it, much less worried about the parking brake. Parking brakes are mechanical and do not depend on anything except the lever in your vehicle to function. Cars have started in gear, moved and cause accidents. What in the world is wrong with putting it in neutral and using the brake for its intended purpose, which is what all the vehicle manufacturers recommend anyway? Also, always turn your wheels towards the curb, uphill or downhill.
northlane87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cable snaps, stretches, or otherwise loses tension and there you have it. The return springs will release the park brake and now your car is rolling away...
Yeldarbris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently you don't know as much about braking systems as you think.
Joetato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:45:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father taught me to always use it if the car was being shut off. I mentioned it to my ex once, because she never used it. Her answer was "This is an emergency brake. There's no emergency going on." and never pulled it.
Peil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This could only happen in American suburbs, because everywhere else there is a risk of parking on some form of incline... Seriously, like how did this girl not lose her car?
Joetato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The car still stays in place if it's an automatic and you put it in park, so her car stayed in place because it was an automatic.
Master_GaryQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until that tiny pin snaps...
Peil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't think of that. Again, a mostly american thing, automatics aren't very popular here.
QuerulousPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder, what kind of emergency would that brake actually improve the situation in? If i'm not mistaken, isn't it often only attached to one wheel anyway?
1212121212121212127 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nevern parked without. Common practice in Germany.
BorrowedInk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They freeze in Maine. I know it's too cold to live there, but people still do.
QuerulousPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh yeah that would suck ass
sheepoverfence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most likely need to apply the parking brake before turning on the car. Took me forever to figure that out.
Javorsky77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well in a manual/standard transmission it could โslipโ out of gear and roll down the hill. But in an automatic that isnโt really a possibility so you donโt have to worry about it. And so many American cars these days are automatics.
I experienced the roll back once when my car rolls out of the drive way and across the street into their yard missing their gas meter for the house by 3 or 4 inches.
redpandaeater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would you trust this cute little pawl to hold the weight of your entire car? Use the damn brake.
1212121212121212127 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it wouldn'tยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
FierceDeity_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Modern technology!
MadIzzy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:50:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have one near me in Michigan. We try to take the family there at least once or twice a summer. The kids love being able to watch movies in their PJs out of the back of the mini van. Making memories like the ones I have from my childhood watching from the back of my dad's chevette.
PoiLethe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:56:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was very little I remember sitting in the back if my dads truck in a pile of blankets watching Pocahontas. We weren't big movie goers though. Our local one shut down over ten years ago. My parents tend to do movie theaters backwards too. They decide they want to see a movie that night and then pick what movie they want to see. They are then disappointed by the experience and "movies these days".
northlane87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs not so bad, I hate the feeling of getting really behind on all the new movies. I have no urge to keep up with that stuff. Going randomly would be fun, perhaps not already knowing what to expect.
CoolNameNeeded ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cherry bowl?
soulonfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohh where in Michigan?
MadIzzy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Getty 4 in Muskegon
nadroj105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know there's us 23 drive in that does double features in Flint.
yater4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coldwater Capri Drive In in Michigan as well.
Kristeninmyskin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:48:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live near one of the only ones in Northern California! Double feature yeah baby, yeah!
epicphotoatl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:56:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's one in Atlanta, the starlight drive in
emmak8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right by the dump, right? Thereโs one up in Tiger, too.
northlane87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs what my local one is called too!
miler4salem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah as is ours
Government_spy_bot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:40:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many in rural America
GALL0WSHUM0R ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's two within an hour of me. Both do double features.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:08:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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GaeadesicGnome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw 2001: A Space Odyssey at that drive-in!
pineapple09 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP but I live 5 mins from a drive in, they still exist!
Yeldarbris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's still a drive in in Las Vegas. And it's still pretty damn cool. The sound comes over your radio now, in stereo or whatever your auto's sound system can handle. You have your comfy as hell car seats. You can't hear that annoying asshole who won't shut the fuck up during the movie (unless it is the person you brought with you, sorry about your luck). I mean, really... why are these places disappearing?
EDIT: I forgot to mention the luxury seats theater we have close by now. I won't go anywhere else but the drive-in. Those seats are the shizzle, you can drink and eat and watch a movie on a huge screen with incredible sound. Now if I could just eliminate the annoying people who talk and get on their phones at a movie....
mikey_says ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one closest to me is in St Albans, VT
lame_jane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The drive-in near me is honestly the place where every teen hangs out on Friday nights. You can watch a movie while being as loud as you want in your own car while maybe tossing around balls before/after the movie. Itโs great. And itโs only $4!
JoeyDJQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's one where I live also. Only 8 dollars a ticket for a double feature. Been open forever. Feels like a blast from the past when I go every few years. http://www.theshowboatdrivein.com/
-Im_Batman- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are 3 within 50 miles of me.
All do the double feature.
ken830 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still have one here in the SF Bay Area. It's really the only way to see and enjoy a movie with really young kids. They can bring their own food, talk loudly, cry, nurse, whatever. Plus, with our Model S and the rear-facing seats, we park with the trunk facing the screen and the kids love the whole experience of hanging out in their own little space.
spmahn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drive Ins still exist, but they arenโt so great anymore in the era of digital cinema. Digital Technology does not lend itself well to outdoor exhibition because the lighting is totally different than it was for film projection, and a lot of the light gets lost outdoor, so you end up with a muddy washed out picture
xiaodown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, at the late night double feature picture show
(Oh oh oh)
dividezero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:34:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they're making a pretty solid comeback but WAY out in the burbs usually. keep an eye out, you'll probably get one or already have one.
DiskoBonez ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:54:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did people hold their bladders through two movies? I can barely make it to the end of one!
TheFlip-Side ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:57:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a 15 minute intermission, just for you small bladdered folk.
willin_dylan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:59:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a break between them thankfully
ubersebek ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:38:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In north Denver, the 88 Drive-In still does triple features for 8$/person.
i3aby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:12:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our drive in still does double features, too. You can just see one of the movies or both but itโs still the same price.
AstartesJors ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:15:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Flin Flon?
willin_dylan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No but that place sounds lit
atonementfish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its a small city in Saskatchewan and Manitoba, on the border. Lit may be the last word I'd use to describe it.
willin_dylan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We may have different definitions of the word
CoolNameNeeded ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one I live by does also
born2stab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skyview?
AngeloMonharti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The drive in where I live only does double features. Its like a football field with screens on either end located way out in the countryside, and the couple that owns it have been running it for close to 40 years now. Its a local treasure.
IAmTheGodDamnDoctor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still got one in Sacramento. So that's nice. I've never been to it though...
willin_dylan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the one I'm talking about.
IAmTheGodDamnDoctor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit. small Internet ain't it.
RegulusMagnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked at a drive-in for a summer a few years ago, they also did double features.
That place had been open for more than 50 years, sadly it recently closed because business wasn't spectacular and they couldn't afford the upgrade to digital.
mahavishnunj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the one where im at has THREE sometimes. its brutal when the only movie you want to see is 2nd or 3rd.
shadow763 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have just one left and you get three movies for the price of entrance. Best deal around.
carnageraiser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Southern New Jersey by chance?
Stragnato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you talking about the Vineland theatre?
carnageraiser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah man!
Le_Renard_Subtil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me it ain't the Rustic in Rhode Island.
The_Grubby_One ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You live in a drive-in? Wicked.
thedoucher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same
Irisversicolor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too!
zdw0986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where i live too. Watching a double feature there made me realize I'm old and can't sit through two late movies anymore without falling asleep
NorthernDen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And on long weekends Dusk to Dawn (3 or 4 movies depending)
musty_book_aroma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vineland?
InfiniteOrchid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. They close from October to May I believe here.
JessHex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live near one in central PA and they always do double features! Not many other places where you can pay $8 for two movies. I always try to go a few times each summer.
X-Istence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one not to far from where I live does triple.
Three movies for the price of entrance. It's great!
harpin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you neck with all the foxy dames?
Blue-eyed-lightning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drive ins still seem to be a thing. I remember going to a double feature when I was little. It was the Simpsons movie and Bourne Ultimatum.
MattyP2117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy Shit you live in a Drive-In?? How do you sleep with all that light and sound?
Stolypin26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine does too. But they only play that indoor bullstuff.
DoctorSteelFan ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:24:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is also where the concept of a "B-Movie" comes from, right?
elusivefalsetto ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 22:44:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"B" movies were lower budget movies, although frankly what I remember is that both movies were often very good.
What is amazing to me is how things changed in life overall. When I grew up in the 1950s, virtually all of the moms were home and didn't work. We were middle class - far from wealthy - but our dads made enough money to support our family without our mothers having to work - and that included a full pension in retirement.
So, to me, the "double feature" of the 1950s is an indicator of how good things were then. Today both parents have to work to support a family and that does not include a pension. And we only get one movie at the theater.
Peil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People complain about how movies have gone now, but in actual fact, it's not that far from the golden age of Hollywood. "A" movies were the "tentpole" pictures of the studios, which have evolved into, well, superhero movies. B movies were the smaller budget, fill in the gaps movies. Nowhere in the definition of A or B movies does quality come into it, although of course most B movies make for pretty poor viewing. It's sad that B movies have disappeared, because with studios making absolutely obscene amounts of money nowadays, despite low theatre attendance, they could churn out a dozen dramas, comedies, horrors a year and not even feel it in their pockets. The big spectacles make the bulk of the money, and they always have. The sad part is that it's not being spent any more.
dotlinefever3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-Movie=straight to dvd
mikeysaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird I always assumed b movies were related to b side songs which were named for the side of the record (and then tapes).
MikeKM ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:14:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My only memory of a drive-in during the 1980s was teenagers using their parents SUV to have sex in it and then talk loudly about how it was (the sex) when they opened the doors.
mrsirishurr ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:24:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, how was it?
Edit: Dad? Is that you?
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:27:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ThaPenguinFace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you sit on low toilets? Or do you lowly sit on toilets? Currently sitting on a low toilet.
MikeKM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one that sticks out the most was the first time it was announced when two people got out the back of a mid-80s GMC Jimmy, the girl complained about something jabbing her in the back while they were doing it. He said it must have been a screw or something.
Edit - I'm 36, may not be your dad. I grew in up Cottage Grove in Minnesota, used to go to the drive in there where a Wal Mart now sits.
George_E_Hale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ
mrsirishurr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:23:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally protruding.
FrankieAK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So did they have color cartoons before color photographs? Shown on a projector?
rabidbasher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Color film existed as far back as the 1920s (I think rudimentary versions back to the late 1800s).
Each frame was hand painted by the studio and then photographed frame by frame, and ultimately reproduced onto color projection film for distribution.
FrankieAK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly never thought about people seeing color films on projectors. I just assumed everything was black and white until color television became a thing.
rabidbasher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a long time animation was the only moving pictures in color. The limiting factor was the exposure times required for color film to come out correctly. Required exposure time for animated films didn't really matter, live action was a whole different story.
Jarrgon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First time colour photo was 1861 according to wikipedia.
They did used to show colour movies by painting on the film though.
onsideways ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:30:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My memory of drive ins during the early 2000s was going with my friend, his sad & stepmom. Me and my friend would hide in the very back of the SUV under a blanket along with all the snacks. Sometimes my friends sister would come too but his dad only ever paid for 2 tickets each time we went. Last one I remember seeing was Jurassic Park III / Planet of the Apes.
alexmason32 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:18:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any other stories to tell us kids?
HSerrata ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:49:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time I needed a new heel for my shoe, so, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:01:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off the subject but I love that Reddit has people of every age commenting. That is what makes it one of the best social media apps.
elusivefalsetto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bought a personal computer in 1977. I was on the "internet" by 1982 or so (Compuserve). I still program in C and C++ as a hobby. It would be very odd for me not to be on reddit or the internet.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. I don't think it's unusual for you to be on the internet, just most social media apps are geared towards one age group only but Reddit is for everyone. I will read comments from 15 year olds and 60 year olds. Love the perspective from a wide audience.
elusivefalsetto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed!
Taffythecat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:33:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I wish I was alive in those days.. the idea of driving in to see a movie and stuff like that sounds so fun.
TEH_PROOFREADA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:30:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry... someone will show up soon to lecture you on how bad things really were back then, in an attempt to make you feel guilty about enjoying simple pleasures.
pgm123 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two movie tickets for two movies and a couple of sodas for less than $10.
cplcarlman ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:20:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work with a guy that was really old and grew up in the town I now live in. He used to tell me that when he was a boy he would take a dime to the movies and after spending 5 cents on the movie and a penny each on popcorn and soda he would still have 3 cents left over.
NotYourTypicalReditr ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:34:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, so he could offer someone a penny for their thoughts and after still afford to put his 2 cents in!
Pantzzzzless ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:52:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is now the origin of this phrase.
GALL0WSHUM0R ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:45:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Giving someone your two cents" actually is descended from "a penny for your thoughts." They only asked for a penny, but you tell them more than they wanted to hear.
ZoopUniball ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:19:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
10$ was a lot back then though O.o wouldnt it be less?
pgm123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably. A Lyft driver explained what a date night cost him. I think it included fare on the street car, but that was less than a dollar a piece.
LoneRangerLong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found a $10 bill once. I was rich kid for six months.
isaacms ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:23:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My step father used to tell me that he would get a quarter as allowance every week. And every week he'd go to the movies and buy a ticket for ten cents, drink for five cents, and snack for five cents. He's in his late 50s. Hard to believe I recently spent FORTY for burgers, drinks, and candy for my girlfriend and I, and that doesn't even include the tickets. And yes, there is a theater here where you can buy food and eat during the movie.
fkuthtsy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Studio movie grill is my shit. I can drink mojitos and order a pizza and cheese fries. What's not to love about it.
pgm123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a few of those near me. One had a discount movie night for $2, but unfortunately raised the discount night to $7.
danchiri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go to bed grandpa!
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those terms haven't changed.
X0AN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Japan still do the double movie thing.
Usually you with sad and happy film combo. So graveyard of fireflies was followed by my neighbour totoro.
turkishdelightbribe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they do this at the New Beverly Cinema in LA! They always play old trailers that fit within the theme of the movie about to be shown and a cartoon or two between/before their feature presentations
Harry-Seaward ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ถ let's all go to the lobby! ๐ถ
payperplain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most drive in movie theatres still open these days still offer the two for one deal. I rarely stay for both films though because that's a long time to sit in my car no matter how comfy the seats are and how amazing it is to have surround sound in your car.
UNZxMoose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a few drive-ins near where I live. The two I know of both show double features every night they are open.
mikey_says ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A single ticket still buys you two movies at the drive-in near my house.
tigerbait92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of that was a holdover from the Great Depression. In order to keep audiences coming in, theaters often did "double features", or had food for their audiences (sometimes free).
One of those tactics stayed common. The other, unfortunately, not so much.
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was there much movie theater business before the great depression?
tigerbait92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:59:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surprisingly, yes! Especially with all of the new technology, filmmaking techniques, and more coming out almost monthly, audiences were flocking to the theaters in droves.
Stuff like Universal's monster movies were HUGE, although obviously that is relative, since audiences were much smaller than the modern era. And just a few years before the Depression, talkies came to be, bringing people in from all over to see and hear stories come to life.
And that doesn't count how liberating the industry was, socially. Women had a genuine place in the industry and in the representation, especially in the later 20s/early 30s, pre-Hays code.
Shit was poppin before the Depression. And honestly, the film industry actually was one of the few industries to thrive during the time.
jalleng ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still do this at The Cherry Bowl Drive-in in Honor, MI!
EsteeDees ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:44:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How long did you people used to stay at the movies, Christ. 2 movies plus shorts that's like 4 hours.
elusivefalsetto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And when I was a kid, I used to go to the movie theater almost every Saturday afternoon (or to the drive-in Sat night - when I was 8-12 years old, our neighborhood used to go to the drive-in as a group of 3-4 cars - what a great time that was - parents would often sit in front of the cars on lawn chairs while the kids went on the swings and see-saw below the screen)
luke_in_the_sky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my country they used to show soccer matches before movies and it was very popular because few people had tv at the time.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How old are you, sir?
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old enough to be a young boy in the 1950s.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aight, thanks for nothing you old bastard.
darkman41 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom once told me that they played movies in a loop and there were no "start times". You would just go to the movies, begin watching the film and wait for it to loop around to watch the beginning. She said that this was where the phrase "This is where I came in" originated. Did you ever experience this?
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. I never heard of, nor experienced such a thing. Doesn't mean it didn't happen though.
darkman41 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She grew up in the 40s. Itโs possible that mode of watching had passed by the 50s.
Texas451 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My local drive-in still does a double feature and itโs my favorite place to go on a Friday night
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mostly remember them on Sat morning TV, not in the movie theaters.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice memory!
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you happen to remember the black and white Farmer Gray cartoons on TV where it literally rained "cats and dogs"?
I_WRESTLE_BEARS_AMA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, Bill, your mom lets you get two movies?
googlegobble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it... ?
SkYrUaL125 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I live, thereโs a drive in that operates from may to October.
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still a Double Feature?
watery_b1nt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one near me is 10 dollars a person to get in. It's a double feature and there are two different screens so you can watch one and if you don't like the one scheduled to play next you can move over to the other screen for a different choice.
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I've been to a lot of drive-in movie theaters when I was growing up, but never one like that!
BigFish8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still do this in places, such as an drive in in British Columbia (Canada). It's all double headers with the cartoons at the start. You tune into a fm station for the sound instead of the speaker on the car.
elusivefalsetto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the speaker on the car used to also be a heater!
BigFish8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty cool. Didn't know that. It was a pretty cool experience when I went. I would definitely go again. It's a shame that there are very few places like it left.
Patari2600 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The few drive ins that still exist usually still do this
Yeldarbris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not that old. What we did was go to the multi-plex theaters. We'd pay for one movie, the just hang out and watch anywhere from two to four or five movies. We almost always bought popcorn and drinks, though, so those bastards got their money!! (No, I don't feel guilty at all, why do you even ask me such a thing!?!) I mean, umm... Fuck it, I'm leaving, I don't like this place any more.
EDIT: forgot to applaud the cartoons. people these days just never had that and don't get it. I don't know how to explain it, either. all I can say is "Bugs Bunny forever!"
LouCifer_loves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My local theater used to do that too when I was a kid in the late 90โs.. also, it use to be 3.50 for kids and 6 bucks for adults..
drumstyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't drive ins always double, or even triple features? Maybe that's just here...
IssacTheNecromorph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how it is in Trinidad. Not sure if still like that, it's been about 9 years. But double features are standard.
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In indoor theaters? Or drive-in theaters?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were they shorter films? I don't know if I would set myself up for that much time in a movie theater on purpose.
elusivefalsetto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. They were regular movies.
In the early 1970s I saw both Patton and Catch-22 at the drive-in (not sure how they are reviewed now, but they were both great movies. And, if I recall correctly, Patton was a long movie).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Different times. Kinda wish I could experience peak drive-in movie culture, actually.
dotlinefever3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a lot of movies had an intermission.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GlQlo71S5pY
reusablethrowaway- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People's attention spans were a lot longer back when there were fewer entertainment options to choose from. Shakespearean play are hardly ever performed in full these days, because some of them run upwards of five hours.
WatchOutForCats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And thatโs why people largely quit going to the movies today. Now?
For the cost of a movie ticket per month, I can watch any one of thousands of movies whenever I want, can pause anytime, and I can watch them anywhere including on a supercomputer in my pocket.
A billion dollars couldnโt buy that in 1957. Or in 1997.
itsdefective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like the Alamo drafthouse is keeping oldschool
rhines57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
drive-in - car-toons wow
Tired8281 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, now you're lucky to get to see one movie with your ticket!
halfascoolashansolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't this also where the term B-movie comes from?
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed it is.
chief_check_a_hoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant https://youtu.be/MFlEIQbmr5o
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rocky Horror Picture Show were usually midnight showings.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A drive in near me does this still. They were able to raise enough money to switch to the digital age and now play new movies as a double feature. I love it.
They also frequently play old classics also double featured
Kiyoko504 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would love to see the 1950s! Was such a nice time to live.
HyzerFlip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a couple drive ins around me always a double or triple feature.
reusablethrowaway- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nowadays people don't have the attention spans to sit through two movies in a row. The length of feature films themselves keeps getting shorter.
iv76erson03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And there were intermissions so you could take a piss without missing something. I don't know why intermissions aren't a thing anymore. I don't want to sit for 3 hours...and I need a refill.
ClickClickChick85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our local drive in is still running and does the cartoon shorts in between films!
khegiobridge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two features and cartoons. On Saturdays, me and my cousins would spend a whopping 35 cents to see Tarzan and Buck Rogers movies all afternoon while our parents did ...whatever.
KaareX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a cinema near me in the 90s that had a Sunday double feature for $7.50...they went out of business by 2000
ShortAngryIrishMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just made me remember the first time a bunch of highschool friends and i got arrested....(throw away because well it won't be hard to figure out who i am from this long story) We used to have a drive in theatre in my little town! It was awesome! When i was like 14/15 (freshmen in highschool) i used to sleep at my buddys house on friday nights and we'd walk to the drive-ins and meet up with a bunch of our friends. There would always be like 10/15 kids and we'd always sneak in threw the broken fence and walk to the back corner. We'd drink and smoke the devils lettuce lol. It was awesome and soo much fun! Until one night there was a car parked in the back corner, next to where we always sat. We were going to move but said fuck it and stayed. And like any teenagers who are getting fucked up we were being loud and obnoxious. I got super stoned and my friend and i hit up my brother to come pick us up but he wouldnt. So not a half hour later a cop pulls up behind us and just sits there. We're all like shit do we run or stay, we decided to stay and all of a sudden 4'cops came from every angle. They start asking us questions and searchings us...i was soo friggen stoned i decided that i knew if i opened my mouth i'd say something stupid and get myself in more trouble so i didn't say a damn word to the cop (which really pissed him off) well after searching us all, they arrested us and put us like 4 deep in their cars. Bring us to the station and made us call our parents...my mom wasncamping so her & her boyfriend were the last to get there (thankfully my buddy stayed and waited with me) i wish i had a framed picture of my mothers face as she walked into the "interrogation room." My mom thought i was beyond innocent and did nothing bad. Well that was instantly crushed because on the table was the left overs of 2 30 racks of natty ice, a couple bottle of hard liquor in water/gatorade bottles, cigars, cigarettes, a couple rolled blunts and J's, a scale, and a couple other random things like knifes and anbaseball bat. All spread out on the table so when the parents walked in to the room with their son/daughter and the cops they were greeted with that lovely display...the cops obviously made it all sound over-dramatic and made us out to be huge criminals reeking havic when we were really just dumb teenagers trying to watch a movie and flirt with the girls we were with....they didn't charge us with any of it surprisingly but word got around quickly and come monday all the teachers and older kids heard about us all getting arrested and all the crap we had on us...i remember some teachers calling us trouble makers, while the football coach/gym teach joked around with us. If i remember correctly the school made all the freshmen go to the auditorium for an assembly and the dangers of drugs and alcohol...
elusivefalsetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you still stoned?
jaime-the-lion ยท 8687 points ยท Posted at 20:46:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit.
Sparrow_1029 ยท 839 points ยท Posted at 21:44:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My exact reaction.
Nyrrix ยท 209 points ยท Posted at 21:46:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My exact reply.
t3hnhoj ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 21:47:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My comment precisely
Stalthdan ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 21:48:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too thanks
BlueDogXL ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 21:54:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too
FilthyHookerSpit ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 21:54:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me
mhac009 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 21:55:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
irl
stunt_monkey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:20:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And my axe
pizzabagel2468 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:56:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tgif
Room16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tfti
chairzaird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... It's not Friday...
JackOfTrades11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:00:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's always Friday somewhen.
legonate416 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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juice_in_my_shoes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:12:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Copy pasta
KRaCK_SCHmACK ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:47:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Screenshot
Calvinball88 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:05:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what about Smee?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:30:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SMEE IS ME
Unstable_Maniac ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:17:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not zoidberg?
GIcrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To shreds you say?
Unstable_Maniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And his wife?
luketerr8 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:27:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy whiskers you go sister
weverz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. You did service to my diaphragm.
volcanolam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
iamasuitama ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My response to a T
viritrox ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
T
joeparni ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
HandsOffMyDitka ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:54:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And my axe.
Manuel_Auxverride ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And my re-axe!
WalksOnWalter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My exact...
I've got nothing.
SteveOdds ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:51:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My exact reaction
Room16 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:58:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My X-Acto knife
ThatsAGoudaChoice ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:05:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My eggs act like eggs
Whatdafuarrrrk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My nuts eat nuts
clinkyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
W
IBlameZoidberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your nuts like... deez nuts?
Deathalo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew this, so my opposite reaction
Nastehs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:52:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
unholy urine?
ocean365 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit.
gene_sis420 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 22:43:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL basic English grammar. Seriously didnโt put that together until now.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:55:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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kingmi123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apt name, Carl.
Gremlech ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:00:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OH MY GOD.
theghostofme ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:36:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly what I thought. In all my years of being obsessed with movies, I haven't once thought to wonder why they were called trailers since I was 12 and the world was losing its mind over the Phantom Menace trailer, which is my first real memory of hearing the term in the context of movies. Then, I just accepted it was a word associated with previews of movies and never bothered thinking about it again.
tulutollu ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 01:00:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't help but notice that his comment is now your most upvoted comment by a factor of 14, beating out a super insightful and heartfelt second place. Oh boy. Reddit is dumb
jaime-the-lion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed that too! I guess it's mostly about how many people see it.
Withdrawl ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 22:20:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always called them previews. Maybe i live under a rock.
MathTheUsername ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 23:04:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you're right. Even in the theater you get that green screen that says "This preview has been approved for all audiences" or whatever.
trenlow12 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:14:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The screen I saw was always blue and it said, "Fuck you, you pathetic loser."
When I would ask people around me if they saw it too they would just tell me to please be quiet. :(
Angry_Apollo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:51:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that the FBI one? Whatever happened to that? It threatened something like a $200k fine and it scared me when I was young... even though I did not have the equipment or technical know-how to pull a copy off.
aaronxxx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the term trailer didn't come back until YouTube
strikt9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโd never heard of โtrailers โ pre youtube.
edwardianed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is odd, as the term trailer comes from this very point, they used to trail the movie.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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HamCandlle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prefixes, roots and suffixes man
edwardianed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Based on the very word suffix, why are reviews called reviews and not sufviews? A review is a post-view analysis and critique, not a second viewing.
-hbq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the word prefix has a prefix in it.
littledragon306 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:24:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We should start calling them movie tractors
Aging_Shower ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:56:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's goddamn funny. I'll start doing this.
ModernPixels ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:11:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/todayilearned
soldiercross ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:50:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, what?
HR_Paperstacks_402 ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 22:08:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MOVIE TRAILERS USED TO BE SHOWN AT THE END OF A MOVIE. NOW THEY'RE SHOWN BEFORE THE MOVIE, SO THE NAME DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
PM_ME_YOUR_EGGROLL ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:07:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trailing as in behind, so movie trailers means trailing behind the movie
soldiercross ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:47:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, didn't get it at firstn
ThePrussianGrippe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:02:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it still makes sense in a way.
What do you see first on the highway? The tractor or the trailer?
Michaelmac8 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:08:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movie trailers used to be shown at the end of a movie. Now they're shown before the movie, so the name doesn't make sense.
soldiercross ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:47:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oooooh. I didn't understand what he meant it not making sense. Thanks for clarifying.
01001101_01100101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How long ago where they shown at the end. I donโt ever remember seeing it that way.
Cow41087 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:34:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why they're called "previews" now.
acerackham ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:20:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean not really, if you go on the official YouTube channel of any movie company it is still "So and So Trailer 1/2/3" usually calling it a preview if it is very short but trailer is still very widely used.
gordigor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just watched Ellen show a teaser for the next Jurassic world movie. End of the preview said "trailer Tuesday".
Cow41087 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it was presumptuous of me to say "preview" is the common term now. As u/muscles8252 said, using "trailer" to describe a clip that is shown before a movie is the part that doesn't make sense. It's just about the order of viewing. "Trailer" should only be used to describe a clip of an upcoming attraction at the end of a movie. Clips shown before a movie or on a separate platform should be called "previews" or "teasers" because those terms don't imply a relation to anything other than what they're marketing. Calling a movie clip on YouTube a "trailer" is technically wrong because it doesn't come after anything.
_ESS83_ ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 20:59:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But technically, they're still shown after the last movie, right? The movie ends, and then it's trailer until the next one begins.
thomasmagnum ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 21:05:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah like never feed a gremlin after midnight
Grokent ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 21:52:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This bugs me so much.
bubbleharmony ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:26:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? No, it's that weird pre-show shit before the actual showtime starts, then the trailer reel begins.
ScaramouchScaramouch ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:11:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but if you hide under the seat and cover yourself in discarded popcorn until the next showing then you get free extra-chewy popcorn.
Taleya ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:31:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Separate playlists.
I_m_High ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:06:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about the first movie of the day. You might say but the night before ok brand new theater first movie trailer def before checkmate atheists
goocumber ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:50:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that would be exhausting. After sitting through a movie for 2 hours I just wanna leave not watch some trailers.
scrotumhand ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:07:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well why do you think they show trailers before movies now?
goocumber ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:12:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah exactly.
murder1 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:58:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You weren't handcuffed to the seat.
DrizzledDrizzt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:08:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you aren't doing it right.
goocumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So all I'm saying is it's a bad time to show trailers if people are ready to leave.
icyflakes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:23:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sitting in a room temperature area with a comfy seat for 2 hours and watching a film of your choice is "exhausting?"
goocumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but by the time it's over, I'm ready to leave. Not that I don't enjoy the film, but at that point the last thing I want to do is think about upcoming movies.
umaprincesama ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:06:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies used to be way shorter than they are now
background1077 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:12:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats not true
umaprincesama ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:17:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked it up, you're right. Huh... Why do they feel so long lately lol
background1077 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:21:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Age and maybe the way they are paced. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Aging_Shower ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:58:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's because many (certainly not all) of the popular movies today are pretty bad and poorly made. So they feel longer because it's like a chore to watch.
CaptnYossarian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:02:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Credits used to be at the start, but now they're mostly only the headliners at the start. Movies get topsy turvy.
hulksmashsmash ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:08:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So new term is movie headers?
eurtoast ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:39:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Previews
joshsalvi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if we called trailers "
tailers", then we can call themheaders.qlokas1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:33:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like it. Tho it would be hard to adapt so it wouldnt go through
circling ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:35:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be the opposite of tailers, nor trailers. I don't know what it should be, though.
TheDaveWSC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my line of work, header is opposite of trailer...
Awwsome_Possum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:04:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And they really need to go back to the end of the fucking movie. My wife took our daughter to see a 4 oโclock movie that didnโt actually begin until 445. Thatโs an insane amount of time to add to a movie when you have little kids.
UltraSpecial ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with B-movies. Nowdays its just referred to as a low budget movie, while it was still true before it was more called B-movie cause it was shown after the main feature which was the A-movie.
new_q ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:55:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So people would watch a movie.. And then sit around and watch trailers?
loukitch ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:05:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well firstly the movies back then were often shorter, and going the cinema was a big affair usually where you would dress up for it. The credits of a film were at the start of the film, not the end, so it would be immediately after the film finished you would see a trailer for the next one by the same studio.
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, they would mostly get up and leave. That s why they started running them at the front.
harzem ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies were shorter.
EverythingsFineHere ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:35:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Possibly why nobody I know in Australia calls them trailers. They've been "previews" all my life.
ripsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty certain they were called previews in Britain too at least circa 1980s as a kid, and we adopted the American term trailer in the years since especially with the advent of the Internet.
2hoodrich4me ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if we call them movie bumpers?
SpellingBeeChampeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a mindblow
physalisx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mind blown
eurtoast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We called them previews where I'm from. Trailers only started to pop up in the vocabulary recently
thedarkpath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mind fucking blown. It was always there. I just couldn't see it....
the-terracrafter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think they were ever played after the movie, but rather were at the end of the physical film. The film engineer or whatever at the theatre would cut them off and put them at the front. I'm too lazy to find a source for this but heard it somewhere.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never knew this, but I guess it makes sense. I had the original Star Wars series VHS release and Empire Strikes Back has a trailer for A New Hope at the end. (I know, "Wouldn't you have seen ANH?" โ I think yes but it was advertising the fact that you could buy a copy)
Glassanimal17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blind mown
WithLove_XO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window in the car. Most people drive cars with electric windows. ๐คฃ
majicebe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ho.Lee.Shit. I always wondered what "trailer" meant. Thanks you, Muscles!
generic-user-1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucks sake
lt13jimmy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:30:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, ever hear of previews?
5MoK3 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:49:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theyโre all posted to YouTube as โtrailers.โ
TheKingElessar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:57:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you watch it on YouTube itโs not a preview or a trailer!
luckofthedrew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:31:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you're sorta pre-viewing the movie the trailer's showing
NiggyWiggyWoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure it is, when it's an unskipable ad before your actual video starts, but occurs after the last video you watched; it's both.
kre8if ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:01:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/showerthoughts
Thedarknight1611 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I no understand
Cocimo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movie headers?
Government_spy_bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first time I heard them referred to as "trailers" I was confused, because I had always heard them called "previews."
ItsReverze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
T - I - f*cking - L
Oddie_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I had no fucking idea.
ksa10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're also called previews.
imdougthebug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait wait what? what do you mean explain pls im slow l:
jfoust2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They showed shorts and cartoons before the trailers and before the movie.
JazzyAces808 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know that's why they were called trailers...
NumberOneWithFries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear trailers but I also hear previews used a lot too
TriforceofCake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now due to rampant consumerism they need to make sure we see all of their advertisements before the movie, so we donโt leave.
SexyAssMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trailers are still shown at the end of movies, just look at marvel movies.
Cardsfan1997 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mind fucking blown
houtman87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call them movie โpreviewsโ
not2random ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clip. I got corrected by a snotty 20-something when I referred to something I saw on YouTube as a โprogramโ. He said, โItโs called a clip.โ Yeah, Mr. 20-something... Do you have any idea why itโs called a clip?
SnowmanEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're Marvel
Yeldarbris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be totally honest, the ones shown before the move are called "previews" (I know, because my wife has screaming shit fits if she doesn't get to see them ever damn time we go to the movies). I have no idea where the "trailer" came from, because I don't ever recall seeing them after a movie. Not that I stick around after the credits, either.
Just sayin', seein' who else been there wit meh.
KyberSithCrystals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered why they were called "trailers"
Mlp_Mike_USMC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't they Called previews before a movie? Trailer is used for every other time though
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
30 minutes of advertising now. I make sure I get to my seat like 10 minutes past the so-called start time just to reduce the hell.
badamache ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and why is the entree not the first course in a meal, since it means entrance?
Do_Ya_Like_Dags_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow, just made that connection.
Glacialf_low ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some movies in theaters still have a trailer at the end so it's still relevant.
coleman57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We should call them "snowplows".
Bananapopcicle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense tho in a marketing type way, because most people would just get up and leave after the movie while companies have. Better chance of people seeing their adverts before the movie starts
chthonical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now they're like the movie hit a deer and it got caught in the grill.
Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit TIL where the term movie trailer came from. Never twigged haha
moleratical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never heard the term trailer until I was about 26 (approximately 2004). Growing up we always called them previews.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i never actually wondered why they were called trailers before
grizzlyadam87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've been referred to as previews from any and everyone I know as long as I've been alive. They've always been showed before the movie in my 30 years on this earth. I live in WV so maybe it's a regional thing.
rokudaimehokage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't that make them Movie Cabooses?
neverdoneneverready ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They used to be called 'Previews'
mmotte89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, what's the antonym of the verb "trail"?
spaige1990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just blew my mind. Never really thought about why they are called movie "trailers". TIL
Illtema ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a masters in film, lots of work experience and didn't know that
C222 ยท 1048 points ยท Posted at 20:38:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related, Wikipedia has a whole list of Retronyms. Words that were only needed after more modern technology came along.
Things like "eyeglasses" after sunglasses became a thing, as opposed to just "glasses". "Mechanical watch" after digital watches were invented and "pocket watches" after wristwatches came along.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 02:25:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really like how nobody said "Standard Definition" before "High Definition" was invented.
hilarymeggin ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 05:33:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โUncircumcisedโ
GeorgieWashington ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:24:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this one is weird. At the very least, it should be "non-circumcised". But probably really just "Classic"
JadedRabbit ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:54:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Factory issue
KuntaStillSingle ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:55:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stock cockfiguration
AsmallDinosaur ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:47:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throwback dick
two-number-nines ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 00:25:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, technically the term โmechanical watchโ was made necessary by the invention of the quartz movement, not the digital watch. That being said, most if not all digital watches are powered by quartz movements, but not all quartz movements power digital watches.
Edit: A word
WillyMcCoy ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 03:47:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why am I not surprised your only other post is to /r/watches
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:10:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are always niche experts reading every thread, it's just a matter of if their topic of choice comes up that they will show themselves.
SplakyD ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:27:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you by any chance a pool shooting country boy from South Alabama who is looking for a man named Jim, the king of 42nd Street who drives a drop top Cadillac?
WillyMcCoy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:32:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Down home they call me slim
noticethisusername ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:01:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Closely related / overlapping with that is how changes of standard technology also lead to changes in the modifiers needed to talk about them.
No one says "color TV" anymore. You needed it at some point because there were regular TVs and the special color TVs. Now black and white TVs are the weird ones and we'd specifie that.
HilariousSpill ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:57:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still need a good term for mobile phones that are not smartphones. "Feature phone" isn't going to catch on, "dumb phone" feels unkind, and "flip phone" works, but only for ones that fold.
thisimpetus ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:26:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, we need a better word for smart phones since, today, calling these pocket computers "phones" is like calling a laptop "browser".
Omvega ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:51:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have one, it's PDA. But the connotation is stuck to the old Palm Pilots and stuff, it won't see the use it deserves.
thisimpetus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hunh, that's exactly right, I'd never even considered that... which, to be fair, makes your pointโit will never be adopted.
HardlightCereal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omnitool?
thisimpetus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:23:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You start the trend, I'll follow.
ouralarmclock ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:27:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It used to be a feature phone was something in between a dumb phone and a smart phone. I vote โclassic mobilesโ
Pandamana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:42:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keypad cell phone?
penisrumortrue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Antiques
chuk2015 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:42:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Candybar is the industry term if it has tactile buttons
HilariousSpill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was the term for non-flip phones.
E-J-E ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:07:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who says eyeglasses though? It's glasses or sunglasses.
david0mp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When talking about glasses and sunglasses I tend to call glasses "clear glasses." Which, entertainingly, doesn't exactly make sense since my "clear" glasses are Transitions.
Her_Bitch ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:16:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Before glasses were glasses, they were spectacles though right?
mnorri ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:49:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cordless screwdriver or cordless drill.
hilarymeggin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:34:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the original ones are now called โcorded.โ
Andernerd ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:05:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunglasses, the ones you wear in front of your knees.
matjoeman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:38:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Black licorice
BenedickCabbagepatch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:54:17 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call them analogue watches; am I an idiot?
lepusfelix ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:49:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, rather than just Star Wars, after Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace came along
lewdwiththefood ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:21:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt think this is true. If Iโm not mistaken the 1997 VHS used Episode IV: A new hope as the title. Thatโs two years before the prequels.
lepusfelix ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:45:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So.... When the prequels were already a thing, just not released yet? Makes sense
Dovahkiin_Vokun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were always episodes IV through VI. Nothing changed when the prequels were released.
ledivin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were always Episodes 4-6, they were never just "Star Wars."
Herp_derpelson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:19:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was just "Star Wars" in the original 1977 theatrical release. In 1981 it was changed to Episode IV A New Hope
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/trivia?item=tr0743075
runwithpugs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:41:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.google.com/search?q=when+was+the+title+a+new+hope+added+to+star+wars
Sparkazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read that as wristrockets
rebekha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Corn on the cob (was just corn before corn OFF the cob!)
Most monarchs that are now known as "the first" weren't called that until there was a second
TooSoonTurtle ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 00:41:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Zippo" instead of "lighter" now that we have disposable lighters that have stolen the name.
Extra funny because everyone calls it a Zippo regardless of actual brand.
GentleZacharias ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:09:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think that's a regional thing; I've never heard anyone say "Zippo" unless it was an actual Zippo. Mostly because Zippos are way better than the shitty 7-11 lighters you can get for 99 cents, so the distinction ennobles the higher quality product.
TooSoonTurtle ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:11:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah quite possibly a regional thing. Everyone I know calls all metal lighters with a hinged lid a Zippo. And saying "lighter" implies a disposable lighter.
merlock_ipa ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:33:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely regional, where I am everyone knows that only zippos are zippos, disposable lighters are either bics or crack lighters/shit lighters, and often people refer to any lighter as a bic, as long as its not a zippo
the_excalabur ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:11:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In other places, 'bic' is a generic term for a pen, amongst other things.
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even weirder: some places call tissues kleenex. Sounds like a soap brand, doesn't it?
merlock_ipa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happens here too, but generally its pretty easy to differentiate between when someone is asking between a pen and a lighter ha, language is weird
ecoshia ยท 23991 points ยท Posted at 17:11:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Footage. Used to refer to lengths of film. We don't use film anymore for TV replays
itsamamaluigi ยท 5105 points ยท Posted at 20:09:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just the term "filming" in general. Also, "taping" something (this is used less frequently now but it was alive and well even 10 years ago).
EDIT: When I think of the word "filming" I think of recording video on a camera. When I think of the word "taping" I think of recording from the TV on a VCR or DVR.
And I agree that "videoing" is not a good substitute for either.
Othor_the_cute ยท 1093 points ยท Posted at 20:46:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough magnetic storage tapes are still alive and well if you do large scale data back-ups.
Sony and IBM even made a tape that could store 200GB per inch of tape in 2014.
ChocolateBunny ยท 655 points ยท Posted at 21:02:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
200GB per inch! Imagine how much bandwidth I'd have hauling a stationwagon full of those across a highway.
Othor_the_cute ยท 338 points ยท Posted at 21:06:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine the latency!
NoAttentionAtWrk ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 21:39:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an xkcd what if about this, isn't there
[deleted] ยท 139 points ยท Posted at 21:43:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there is an RFC about a high-bandwidth/high-latency protocol named "IP over avian carrier"...
jtcressy ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 22:06:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RFC 1149 and RFC 2549
Edit: Looks like it was updated in 2011 to include IPv6 over avian carrier with RFC 6214
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:21:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the update! Considering that we have harddisks with several terabytes of space today the bandwidth is crazy! And so is the ping...
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:34:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.quantum.com/products/tapedrives/ltoultrium/lto-8/index.aspx
They didnโt stop making the tapes or improving them.
Current gen is 30 TB compressed/15 TB uncompressed.
You can also store them in a warehouse or ship them via any major carrier.
1ns3rt_n4m3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:41:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a shitty compression...
c0d3br3ak3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Compression is typically 1:4 on tape backup.
Stoppablemurph ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:38:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come on, get on ipv6 already, this is getting ridiculous people, it's been 6 years since this was updated.
SquirrellyNuckFutter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:13:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I initially read this as โIP over ovarian cancerโ and was both horrified and intrigued.
LupusMechanicus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe it was a what if xkcd but yes.
Brianfiggy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm almost positive there is or something similar, perhaps a video with stick dudes, that talks about this. I remember seeing it posted on reddit. Someone must know it. I distinctly remember visuals of a stick dude in a van loaded up with data storage devices and logistics being calculated and compared to tranfering data by wire.
PlankWithANailIn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:44:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends if you measure latency just by measuring the time to start receiving data or time to fully receive all of the data. Computer can't do shit with the first bit of a petabyte of data after all.
sugardeath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For archival storage, latency doesn't matter so much.
the_crustybastard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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thedarkhaze ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:58:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet
zoro4661 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:03:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine how much of it you'd lose if you crashed that stationwagon!
Mechakoopa ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:10:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could be the victim of literal packet hijacking.
zombieregime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"the storage medium crashed..."
gsfgf ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:06:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another thing that's largely an anachronism. But a crossover SUV full of tapes would have similar bandwidth.
half3clipse ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:49:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Station wagons still exist, just not really from north american manufacturers. The Mercedes E-Class has a wagon variant.
They're just not the boxy fake wood paneled oldsmobile your grandpa drove.
thtgyovrthr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and they're arguably not wagons, either...
IntravenusDeMilo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drive a Subaru Outback. They can call it whatever they want but itโs a station wagon.
gsfgf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, it definitely is. But itโs pretty much the only one made outside of Germany
IntravenusDeMilo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I never realized that, but I was just googling and you're right. Nowadays wagons are mostly German - and another fun fact, apparently wagon owners are really high value customers to the manufacturers.
Also the Volvo V90 looks pretty awesome. When I'm done driving this Outback into the ground, I want a Volvo wagon.
zapman17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:24:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true outside the US.
LetMeGetMyAbacus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You joke, but this actually happens sometimes that overnight shipment of an encrypted drive is faster than network transfer of the same data.
PM_ME_CODE_CALCS ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:26:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/
SheeEttin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:11:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I regularly ship drives when people want database transfers, or they just don't want to transfer the data over the Internet.
Most cloud companies also support this. Datto has Round trip units for their backups, and Amazon has Snowball units for their storage.
And if you have a lot of data, Amazon also has the Snowmobile, which is an 18-wheeler full of drives.
half3clipse ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:43:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sneakernet is still the most efficient way to move large amounts of data. OVernighting a high capacity LTO gets you up close to a terabyte of bandwidth.
gnarlin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the old sneakernet.
OMFGITSBECCY ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:55:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who's your ISP?
Ford.
WheresTheButterAt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I first found out its faster to drive large amounts of data some places if your connection is slow it blew my mind.
swanny246 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:48:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read that as just "wagon" and imagined a horse pulling a wagon full of magnetic storage tapes down a highway.
dm80x86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amish internet?
bsbbtnh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine how much I'd have in my pants!
Dozens, upon dozens of GBs!
Trans-cendental ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The power of the SneakerNet
GruesomeCola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, was bandwidth originally a term for cassette tapes?
SheeEttin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe so.
PM_ME__YOUR_HOOTERS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All that porn, imagine the possibilities!
despaxes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bandwidth and storage are completely different. These are very low bandwidth
bordeaux_vojvodina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is that you're storing the data, then driving it somewhere else.
If you have a van containing 10,000 X 1 TB disks, and you drive it somewhere an hour away, your bandwidth is 10 PB per hour or 2.77 TB per second.
JupiterBrownbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might have to call that Plan B after the FCC votes to end Net Neutrality!
HoboTheDinosaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt tell Comcast, theyโll buy the road and lower the speed limit.
snyder005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You joke, but in some instances this is the best option. For instance I once had a project where I needed to get a large amount of data from a telescope in Chile to the US. I was told the fastest way would be to fly there with a couple hard drives and get it myself.
ironmanmk42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you haul it like 50ft to a 100ft across a highway?
Yurishimo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually something Amazon does. If you have a huge amount of data you need to backup to their cloud services but donโt have the upload bandwidth, they will mail you a big fancy drive you can copy stuff on to and then you mail it back and they upload it from within the data center. Relatively affordable if you have thousands of terabytes of data!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Image a fully loaded freight train of those!
calvarez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would make RFC1149 actually viable!
Cruxion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And on average it would be faster than your average rural ISP. Ping would be pretty bad though.
SirRogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine if your penis was like that. What would you use your 50GB for?
Bazzarator ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:59:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The article says it's actually 200 Gigabits, so roughly 25 GB per inch. Still impressive though!
SteamedCatfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for pointing that out. Might still be impressive but having a terabyte on something less than 2 inches long would be way cooler, especially compared to the 50 or so inches that it would be in reality.
chrisbucks ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:28:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm this. I work in broadcast media, until recently (and probably still currently in many businesses) magnetic tape like HDCAM was still the biggest delivery mechanism.
We did a lot of digitizing of tape media into file based storage. Ironically anything that wasn't scheduled for play in the next few days was archived onto LTO. Used to hate it when corporate would refer to us "tape free". From tape, to file, back to tape.
teefour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any idea what the read write speed is on that? The article doesn't say.
Jordaneer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:03:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its rather quite slow, apparently some tape drives have reels that are like a quarter of a mile long in them
FriendlyWisconsinite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what you're reading and writing. If you're reading sequential data it should be pretty fast. At least as fast as a decent hard drive I'd imagine. If you're trying to random access the tape though, the seek times will be extremely slow due to the fact the tape has to wind to where the data is. This is probably why tape drives are mainly used for archiving.
jbrown5217 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:25:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, I do all the tape backups for my company.
Send help
nzjeux ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah was bit of a surprise when i got into IT finding that out. Also was told it's a fucking nightmare trying to recover from them as well. Told someone who needed something from backups that it was too old and i had to get the tape, they thought i meant it like this thread is about. Took ten min to explain that no we do still use tapes
Othor_the_cute ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:51:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just can't beat tapes yet for density of storage.
lawrnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And itโs alive and well. LTO8 just came out.
TheHancock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We've come full circle! Haha
proboardslolv5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:30:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can use this tool to do the same thing with mini cassette tapes https://github.com/collinoswalt/modem
SimonCallahan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, Doom wouldn't even fill a tape. You could get Doom, GTA5, Fallout 3, New Vegas and 4, Oblivion, Skyrim, Crysis 1, 2 and 3, and Final Fantasy 15 (full 4K graphics and everything) and still have room on that tape. All those games likely wouldn't even fill a cassette that most full-length movies did in the 80s and 90s.
InfiniteGrant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda makes real life sense to why the Enterprise used tapes in Star Trek. (Other than it was the 60s.)
Zardif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's impressive.
prettyprettyponys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. I work at a production company and all of our "archived" footage goes on LTO tapes. And up until a few months ago we were shipping final masters of TV shows to some networks on HDCAM-SR tapes!
FromDistance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am fairly certain that the company I work for still does large scale data back ups using tape every couple of months on our data.
llewkeller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked for a transit agency that still used an HP3000 Mainframe computer for a few functions up until a couple of years ago. The problem was that the cost of the new digital and windows based software needed to schedule and track the buses was too expensive for them to afford in the late 2000s economic downturn, so they had to rely on the old software and mainframe for much longer than planned.
Tookie2359 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
itโs gigabits, not gigabytes. so more like 25GB per inch
pancakelife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And with physical camera film the resolution is astronomically high compared to its digital counterpart. A little 1 by 1.5 inch square can have 2k or higher resolution in it depending on how crisp the focus was.
silverskull39 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:27:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think "recording" is a good, neutral replacement.
sounds_n_stuff ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:49:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I give each other shit for saying tape.
Me: "let me grab my phone so I can tape this."
Her:"...tape"
yagaru ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:33:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She really stuck it to you, huh?
sounds_n_stuff ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:05:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I realize now that our version of "giving each other shit" may be somewhat tame by reddit standards.
dangerkitty3000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:38:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully I don't think the term "give each other shit" has ever been anything but a euphemism
plumette ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:25:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or for that matter "rolling" which they still use on set.
LochnessDigital ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Speed" as well. Sound guys don't have to wait for their stuff to get up to speed.
j1375625 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:18:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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wayne_fox ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:13:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kodak still makes film, pretty sure.
maxboondoggle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I believe Nolan, Tarantino and some others got the studios to promise Kodak they would buy enough film to keep them from ceasing all production.
ccdfa ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:34:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite directors still shoot in film. Quentin Tarantino for one
thecolbra ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:32:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IMAX for the most part is still entirely film.
j1375625 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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scapler ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:22:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's not nearly the only one left. Yes digital is the majority of films nowadays. That said, three of the Best Picture nominees last year were shot on film. At least four of the top 15 grossing films this year were shot on film, including Wonder Woman, Dunkirk, and Baby Driver. The new Star Wars films are shot on film. Shooting on film is rarer than it used to be, and the majority is digital, but it's still very mainstream.
maxboondoggle ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:19:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an exhibition format film was never good. Prints aren't pin registered so we lose a lot of sharpness. Digital projection is significantly sharper and clearer.
As a capture format it comes down to preference. A lot of films are still shot on film. Some tv as well. The Walking Dead comes to mind. One doesn't really "look" better. Video is easier to use.
ccdfa ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:28:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right that the versions we generally see are digital copies but you're wrong about Tarantino being one of the last directors to shoot in film. Christopher Nolan, Wes Anderson, Edgar Wright, Stephen Spielberg, and many more directors all shoot on film
cruzercruz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heโs certainly not the only one left. While itโs currently the norm to shoot digitally for sake of ease and expense, most of todayโs iconic filmmakers still alternate between film and digital where needed, either for aesthetic or budgetary reasons. Also, a good number of theaters still utilize 35mm and 70mm projectors for films. I watched an original 35mm print of The Thing just two weeks ago. While digital may be the norm, film is hardly dead, thanks to the passion of many filmmakers and theater owners.
PM_me_ur_FavItem ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:31:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude analog film is still heavily in use. Cinephiles can spot the difference between 16mm and 2K digital intermediate. Both film and digital and their own pros/cons.
obi1kenobi1 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:33:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kind of surprised that the die-hard film-using directors (Nolan, Tarantino, etc) don't refer to other movies as "videos" rather than "films". I mean that would be the technically correct term, and it has a nice snobby "holier-than-thou" ring to it...
IronChariots ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:57:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I think "video" tends to be used for shorter things-- your typical 5-10 minute YouTube type thing, so they probably want to distinguish themselves from that.
LochnessDigital ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might think that now because of YouTube and the like, but "Now on Video" used to be a common phrase for advertising movies that were available on VHS tapes. And DVDs and Bluray are considered "digital video" formats as well.
obi1kenobi1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:43:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what you mean, video just means electronically-produced moving images as opposed to chemical/mechanical technologies like film. Anything from analog TV to Netflix to computer graphics, including both digital cinema cameras and digital cinema projectors.
ephemeral_colors ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:45:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IronChariots ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but if somebody tells me that they saw this cool video online, I'm going to generally assume some short-form content on YouTube rather than an episode of Black Mirror.
obi1kenobi1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I see what you mean, but I do tend to watch a lot of really long YouTube videos so in my mind there is no assumption that a "video" would be any shorter than a movie or TV show.
Cymry_Cymraeg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why have Americans got this weird thing about the word 'film'? In the UK, everything's a film, it hasn't got any fancy meaning at all.
macboot ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:52:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took me a long time to get accustomed to using the word "audiobook" because I grew up on "book on tape" but it just doesn't sound right anymore lol
TegraBytezTTG ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:59:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not just say Recording?
UnreasonableSteve ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:22:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard/use "take a video" as well
NiceMugOfTea ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:11:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mum still says โtaping last nightโs tellyโ, meaning she saved something to her cable box hard drive.
dubbywubbystep ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And when you edit "footage" on a computer, you "cut" it.
probabilityEngine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say something about already having "cut and paste" in the context of computers, but instead now I'm just realizing how odd it is that "paste" is used in that context as well..
Shnakepup ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:13:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You still hear tape in the context of recording TV shows, especially late night shows. They'll mention when talking about current events, like "we tape at 5 o'clock, so by the time this airs, [event] will have already happened..."
the_eric ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:38:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather hear someone say "filming" instead of "videoing"
Techwood111 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Shooting"?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:41:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We Germans still sometimes use to say "auf Zelluloid bannen" (to capture on celluloid), although celluloid hasn't been used for decades...
brad-n ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than "videoing".
RedofPaw ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:10:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We use 'record' now, but this is also from the time when audio was captured to magnetic 'cord'. The process would require the cord be split in two and the 're-corded' while ran through the magnetizer. Although none of that is actually true and it's fun to make things up that sound vaguely like they make sense.
steve_of ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Record is the corrct term. It is media independent. You can even use pen and paper to make a record.
gsfgf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa. Record (the noun) and record (the verb) are not only derived from the same thing, they're literally the same word. I probably should have noticed that at some point in my life before now.
RedofPaw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:00:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed, before the automated devices that would record magnetized cord via a motor, poor people who could not afford a hand cranked recording spinner would use a pen inserted into the spindle and manually turned.
acidRain_burns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a whole lot of directors still shoot on film. 35mm is still a mainstay recently used in films like Baby Driver. All the Harry Potter movies were filmed on 35mm. The Hateful Eight was a special treat since it used 65mm and thats pretty rare these days. 8mm is making a return with the Kodak Super 8. There is something wonderful about film that has still yet to be repeated by digital cameras. That isnt to take away from those though (Thor Ragnarok was shot in 6.5k and mastered at 2k. Mad Max Furry Road at 2.8k)
Kryptosis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording?
Theviktator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've gotta make sure YouTube comes down to tape this
lfod13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about just "recording"?
PoisedbutHard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I film someone on my phone I say โrecordingโ.
SNESamus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah I'm 18 and I still use taping when I'm talking about recording things sometimes and I realize I've never actually taped something in my life.
LikeASewingMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom still says "taped" every time she records something on DVR.
emydoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And videoing something, Or did you get that on video
B-Town-MusicMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the music industry, many artists are still fond of tape. Something about the "warmth"
wndrlst84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yesssss. My mom has had a dvr for years but still tells me about the shows sheโs โtapedโ.
csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was listening to a podcast (maybe a Gimlet one) where they called their audio recordings 'tape' even though they're all digital recorders.
Edit: not all of course but the discussion was about their own recordings.
explosivo563 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video-ing is a term I've heard plenty of kids say these days...
VulGerrity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You use recording now...which is also probably outdated since I assume that comes from making a "record."
Capture video would be the most accurate.
keef_hernandez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No vinyl records are named for the act of recording something.
crimeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of media uses film still. Certainly not anything like the MAJORITY but very much in use. I own and use 3 film cameras, including a view camera (old timey style with accordion body, was manufactured new and on Amazon 2014 or so)
pabupaybe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to mention taping
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i remember skating in my teens with the boys and capturing some rad footy, kept it in a carrying case with extra cassettes too
CindyRidesAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Recording" is pretty common language on set nowadays.
CWess14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording is also an archaic term for this
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's weird when I hear or read that someone has 'filmed' something on their cell phone. Or they will say they are 'taping' something or someone.
Bane2571 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Recording" is probably the word you need - as in making a record of, not making a vinyl record of.
Pickled_Wizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording?
halfslices ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a television network and when we cut a short video or trailer for a show we often call it a "tape" or even a "reel" even though none of the content has been on either of those formats for more than a decade, and many of us weren't even working in the industry when they were in use.
NSA_Chatbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been switching to "recording" instead of "taping" or "filming".
2hoodrich4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about recording? Recording is nice and neutral. You could record something on paper, picture, or video. So it leaves room for any future ways of recording. Plus, its already in use, so it won't take too much getting used to
Abnmlguru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in TV news, and when I record something for later, I still refer to it as taping, despite the fact it goes straight to a hard drive.
In fact, the software we use is called a VVTR, or Virtual Video Tape Recorder.
jimbosaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People definitely still use the term "on tape" to mean "having been recorded." E.g., "They got the Senator on tape admitting to inappropriate behavior with a staffer." or "The mugger was caught on tape fleeing the scene." Even though in neither of those examples was actual tape likely used.
EricT59 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since you are writing digital data to media Poking cause that puts a value into a memory address in BASIC, or writing but that is confusing because the script is also written, or the old stand by shooting
max420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording would be a good substitute. Or Capturing, cause recording kind of harkens back to vinyl records of yore.
definitely_not_cylon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You still see this when there's a celebrity "sex tape."
No there's not, it was digitally recorded on their phone.
Jebus_Jones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We now tend to use shooting in its place but often also still say filming. Plenty of films are actually still shot on celluloid anyway.
LotusPrince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, while less common, calling movies "flicks."
UltraSpecial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always just used the universal word, "Recording"
CaptainNinjaKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording is already a thing, but with the logic of the thread this would mean to obsess over cable management.
1pt21jigawatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies are still recorded on film. They are higher resolution than your 4K television, which is why you can get HD re-releases of old shows and you see how shitty some of the sets look.
Cymry_Cymraeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But we still use film.
Travisx2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say I want to "tape" things when I record video on my phone haha :)
Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I like the French word enregistrer.
loaded_potatoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can we all agree to call it recording?
SeniableDumo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use the term recording unless the other are relevant. But I feel like we should switch rewind and fast forward to frame back and frame forward
threekidsathome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of people still use the word taping for when they record a program on their DVR or something
Provol0ne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm 19 and i sometimes say โtape this/tape meโ instead of โrecord thisโ and people look at me funny
TrashPalaceKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my kid brother (there's over a decade between the two of us) to tape a show for me and he looked at me like I was nuts. I guess "record" is the more popular jargon? Shit, I'm not even that old! *edit: I a word
tubadude2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good lord! I'm on film!
ElectricFeeeling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still do commonly refer to live video replay in sports as "tape". "Rolling" is also commonly used in reference to recording something.
TomasTTEngin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
related, the fact that the symbol for pressing play is an arrow. (see the youtube logo)
comes from cassette tapes, which could go left or right.
AlmostAnal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try 'capturing'.
BouncyLobster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say "we're rolling" when I start recording.
Eshido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of taping itโs now recording.
nuxenolith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We've got it on tape" is alive and well.
Steamstash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording. Digital recording is the modern equivalent to filming.
Do_Ya_Like_Dags_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some movies still use film, but digital cinema cameras have advanced to the point that out resolve most physical film formats and have better dynamic range. They also allow for more creative color grading and obviously CGI and other digital effects.
Personally I still find the visual artifacts of film and the soft colors appealing, but I think both mediums have their merits.
HelloMyNameIsBrad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in TV production, and we still refer to the process of capturing a live performance as 'taping' it. Another common phrase is 'live to tape', meaning a show that is treated as though it is a live broadcast, even though it's being recorded to be aired later. Everything, of course, is on hard disks/SSD's now, but it seems like it will always be 'tape'.
CrystalBlackheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?! Does no one say recording?
SpaceGangsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the video field we use shooting. Iโm out on a shoot. Iโm shooting this video today.
Aldrea01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording, dude... that's the word that still accurately describes it now. Haha, had a brain fart the other day and heard myself say "film it" when I couldn't find a better word fast enough. It's weird how old and out of place the word felt.
pigeonwiggle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
someday people will be like, "why do we still call it Googling even though the internet has been dead for 30 years?"
iluvstephenhawking ยท 2334 points ยท Posted at 18:43:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never thought of that before. "I have like 200 ft of footage of this forest" or something. Everything is digital but I don't really know another term to use. I guess now we say how many hours of footage which actually makes no sense. My mind is pretty blown right now.
chiagod ยท 1419 points ยท Posted at 20:12:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something else to blow your mind. Movies (old reel type) are about a mile long for each hour of movie.
[deleted] ยท 342 points ยท Posted at 20:25:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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galacticboy2009 ยท 384 points ยท Posted at 20:30:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen things.. you people wouldn't believe..
lost.. like tears.. in the rain..
TheSkipRow ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:05:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was having a good day, you know... but now you reminded me of that movie again.... and 2049 is not in cinema anymore so I have to wait for the Blu Ray. I hate you, my feels deserved better.
Photonomicron ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:12:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just upload better feels.
FlexualHealing ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:19:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Noseclams.exe not found
brainburger ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:42:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know what you mean but have upvoted just in case it's clever.
Chief_Givesnofucks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oooh a snortsky!
Pickled_Wizard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:23:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It turns all your BAD feelings into GOOD feelings...its a nightmare!
Formal_Whale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't want no part of this shit
galacticboy2009 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:57:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw it in theaters the day before yesterday for the third time.
Just checked, and it's playing multiple times every day this week at the AMC East Ridge 18 in Chattanooga TN.
So if you want to see it one more time, visit the southern US.
TheSkipRow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, I saw it 4 times when it was at my local cinema. Im just waiting for the Blu Ray to watch it frame by frame looking for details and all that stuff.
OddTheViking ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:54:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8
Such an amazing scene.
OhBuggery ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:57:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only recently watched that film for the first time, one of the most beautiful, immersive worlds I've seen on screen, Vangelis is amazing as well
0_0_0 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:08:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hope you watched the
Director'sFinal cut.TenSpeedTerror ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:31:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Final cut*
0_0_0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, of course, forgot.
George_E_Hale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since this is required of me, let me just say theatrical cut forever.
I will concede a lot about the Final Cut is better. Hell I can even live with the unicorn dream. What I cannot live with is that that dream was plopped down to replace one of the most mood-setting scenes of the film, when Deckard is alone with his whiskey looking at old photos and the love theme is played. They just wiped that musical cue for a hollow sounding piece played over recycled unicorn footage from Legend.
Also I like the voiceover. The terms 'cityspeak' and 'skin job' are both glossed, as well as the fact that Deckard is divorced, that he regrets 'shooting an unarmed woman in the back' (Zhora) and that Rachael has no set lifespan.
That is all.
Victorbob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:21:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have always preferred the theatrical cut.
ATomatoAmI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I kinda see it like the Donnie Darko problem since I never gave the theatrical release a real shot (just saw it on TV and didn't like it). With DD though it's backwards; I consider the Director's cut eventually required viewing for fans since it actually explains some things for sure, but the theatrical is better as a sealed package IMHO before and after ambiguity (e.g. wtf ax and why people are crying at the end).
George_E_Hale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never felt as if Donnie Darko was a big mystery, or at least the mysterious parts I felt were there I was fine with. The biggest sin of the director's cut of that film is deleting the excellent use of Killing Time by Echo & the Bunnymen as the musical cue in that early bike moment where he bicycles home with, inexplicably, Never Tear us Apart by INXS. Seriously, fuck that choice.
TheSkipRow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:44:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have both, I like the Final Cut because of the ending and the Theatrcal because of the narration (all of it but the ending scenes, those ruined it for me).
It's like Star Wars/A New Hope, I love the change of having Han run into a hangar full of stormtroopers but hate the CGI aliens.
George_E_Hale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ending scenes ruined it? I love the ending scenes. Notably those were footage borrowed from Stanley Kubrick (unused) that he had had filmed for the opening of the film The Shining.
TheSkipRow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:54:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just find it silly to have a ''driving into the sunset'' ending combined with Ford's souless narration.
George_E_Hale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, I get that. I never thought his narration was soulless, as you put it. To me it was just the genre film noir detective voiceover.
I've got no issue with anyone who didn't care for it. Sometimes I don't mind a happy ending. After the bleak city rainscape of the entire film that break through the clouds into sunlight and green was just what I needed. Of course I've now seen the sequel (twice) and there's that, but I was/am responding more to the individual narratives of the film(s) than the specifics of the wider story arc.
ziggrrauglurr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife was raised with Vangelis as bed song, that coupled with the movie's rhythm makes a full watching impossible as a couple...
eksorXx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:44:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was kind of fucking hoping it was a video of a VHS tape blowing in the damn wind. but it's not, it's a GREAT scene and I can't even be mad so fuck it.
scordax ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:35:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
galacticboy2009 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-gives you the dove-
You deserve this more than I do
CoffeeStrength ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:36:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harrison Fordโs favorite scene he was ever in.
George_E_Hale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean when he sat there blinking at Rutger Hauer?
TheSkipRow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's right, that scene is my favorite scene in cinema's history! The only one that might top it is Saving Private Ryan's ending.
rickdeckard8 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zedโs dead, baby...Zedโs dead.
MintyTruffle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw spaceships and shit.
btveron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time to die
Skellingtoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"And, no matter how hard you try... you will never get that tape... back in the cassette. Time, to buy."
galacticboy2009 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"-another The Sound of Music box set"
PA_Irredentist ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:34:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The VHS, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The VHS is blowin' in the wind...
OddTheViking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bravo, beat me to it.
proximity_account ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All we are is VHS in the wind
TrollinTrolls ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:28:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly the same thing. A VHS tape is about 1,400 ft long or about a quarter of a mile.
eterneraki ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:42:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didnt say it was the same, but it's very obviously a similar concept
TrollinTrolls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I didn't say he said it was the same. I was simply pointing out that that specific detail of those two things were dissimilar, and then I outlined how different those two things were.
I feel like we could do this all day, but I don't know why we would, or why I got this comment to begin with.
edit - Lol, dude downvoted me immediately. Why are some people so weird?
eterneraki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I didn't, I didn't even see your comment until just now.
Anyway, it was at least obvious to me that a traditional movie film and VHS tape were not the same, so you pointing out that theyre not exactly the same seems a little redundant unless you're catering to a slower crowd :P
mordacthedenier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For 4 hours of playback.
Dr_Apollo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:23:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
U mean blowing in the re-wind.
FireLucid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old audio casette tape. Break in half, tie one end to the bus seat, let the rest stream out the window. Watch all the cars go past with it tangled up in their antennas. Fun times on school trips.
Minecraftfinn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen broken up VHS cassettes, their entrails billowing in the winds off the shoulder of orion
ProFlanker76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We use them as wind direction tools when weโre sailing so yes
Brad_Chanderson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I STILL see audio cassette tape blowing around.
Who the fuck is still using tapes? Why are they then throwing them out the window on I-94?
bananaemporium ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever seen a grown man naked?
ImS0hungry ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 20:19:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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IAmNotNathaniel ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:15:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't say the name came from miles, just that an hour of film was a mile long.
KettleLogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are right, didn't read his post correctly on the train. I'll remove the post so not to further confuse the matter.
ThirdEncounter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happy cake day.
CutNSplice ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:40:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In post production, we still split up the movie in sections of about 12~15 minutes (<1500ft). While there are some practical reasons to do this, like it helps keep re-edits easier to track, it's rooted in how it's delivered to cinemas. The projectionist will receive a box of several reels and then splice them together and play them off a large platter.
kaiserroll109 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:05:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was my job when I worked at the local Regal theater. Though now that everything is going digital, the movies ship on single HDDs in big shockproof cases.
CutNSplice ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:12:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get all kinds of industry reports; I know physical prints have been severely declining but they're still being produced at some reasonable numbers. Companies like Deluxe now just handle a lot of physical printing: posters, popup displays for films, etc.
Now people just have insane anxiety about the decryption keys unlocking at the right time to play the DCPs.
kaiserroll109 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:29:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember having to deal with the encryption keys... fun times.
I'm sure reels are still printed. Good digital projectors are expensive, so it's not always cost effective to upgrade especially for smaller theaters. Our first one was paid for by Disney and they basically owned us as far as that projector went (what trailers, number of showings, that kind of thing) for a long time.
Alonewarrior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh, the memories. I never got the chance to be a projectionist as I started at our local theatre only 5 months prior to converting to all digital, but it was incredibly awesome to see how it all worked.
Bananafanafofana63 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:32:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, a lot of people think โtalkiesโ sounds dumb and childish but they have no problem calling moving pictures โmovies.โ
ThirdEncounter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa! WHOA!
CholentPot ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:39:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about this?
Remember rolls of 35mm film? Each roll is about a second of footage. Cine cameras use a roll of film a second.
Tar_alcaran ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:50:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interstellar, a 2h50min film, was shot on 55*70mm imax film. The movie reel was 72" diameter and weighed about 600lbs.
CholentPot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's 70mm film or about 12 still shots for every second of screen time.
ThirdEncounter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I misunderstanding, or are you implying 12 fps?
CholentPot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
70mm film or 120 film has 12 shots per roll. Every roll is about the length of a second of footage. 120 film is generally shot as 6cmx6cm. When used for cinema though I think it's shot at less than half that.
Film is generally shot at 24fps, 35mm is shot at half-frame so that should make about 2 seconds for a roll of 24. There are a whole bunch of different ways of shooting it though, same goes for 70mm.
ThirdEncounter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So 70mm is shot at 12 fps, if I'm understanding you correctly. Wouldn't it show? Like, wouldn't the audience notice some choppiness compared to 35mm?
CholentPot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still photography uses more film area than motion photography.
One physical format of film can have multiple aspect ratios. For instance, 120 stills can be shot at 6x4.5 6x6 6x7 6x9 6x12 etc. Motion picture shoots at a different aspect ratio.
ThirdEncounter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for all the info. But I still don't know how that answers my original question.
CholentPot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When rolling through a movie camera it shoots 24 fps or whatever the dp chooses. Film has no set FPS it's just a medium in which to capture frames. 60 fps film is the same film as 12 fps film.
ThirdEncounter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I'm beginning to see it now.
What threw me off is your initial quote:
CholentPot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
70mm film stock which is used in motion picture that comes in 100 or 400 foot rolls. It's sold for still shots in 2 1/2 foot lengths. These 2.5 (really 2.3) foot lengths (72mm long) rolls of film generally give 12 shots of 6x6 still images.
A motion picture will use 2.3 feet up in about a second at 24fps. Much faster if its going at 60fps.
ThirdEncounter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:41 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see it now. Thanks!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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screen317 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:48:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...they're much bigger
Toast_Points ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:49:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They used much larger reels of film.
CholentPot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Load up 400 feet of film at a time. That gives about 10 minutes of film.
rustybeancake ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:33:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I guess the film moved through the projector at about 1 mph.
chiagod ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:34:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an average. At a smaller scale, each frame is 3/4" tall and it pulls and stops 24 times a second.
lost_in_thesauce ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:27:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, must be where the term "milage" came from.
biggles1994 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:05:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, I wonder which movie 'marathon' would require a marathon's worth of film reel...
BraveHack ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:47:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A nearby IMAX up until the last couple years used a 70mm projector. It was the size of a small car and weighed nearly 2 tonnes. Here is a picture of the film reel for Interstellar on 70mm.
galacticboy2009 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So they didn't just have footage, they had mileage.
bhowandthehows ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies are broken up into about 20 minute reels. There's generally 5 or 6 reels in a movie. Source - I work on movies and tv shows
chiagod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
However most theaters I knew combined them into one giant reel on system that had 3 platters. 2 play from platters and a "rewind" platter.
alpain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never thought about how long the video ones were...
I randomly still copy data from old reel to reels to HDD. They are called by type usually, 9track 7track 24track than by length usually like 1800 feet 2400 feet etc
1800 on a track is about 92megabytes of data.
Sticky_Teflon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're also called movies because the move.
abnormallookingbaby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And another, movies are called movies because they are moving pictures, just like talkies was the term when sound film came out.
Smithag80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a pretty bad mile time. TBH
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not blown
KettleLogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You literally made that up.
chiagod ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:22:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3/4" per frame, 24 frames per second, 3600 seconds per hour = 64,000 inches per hour or 5,400ft per hour.
5280 feet per mile.
KettleLogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ I'm watching you.
escott1981 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He did the math....
He did the monster math
ethaninseattle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So โThe Longest Yardโ was actually a mile and a half.
anticommon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's 1.46 fps or feet per second.
Which is .73" per frame.
Or 16.36 frames per foot.
Or 0.68 seconds per foot.
Woweee
antoniofelicemunro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, I was expecting a lot more
frothface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actually seems really short when you think about how long it takes to walk a mile and how many scenes are in a film, how many frames it takes to fill a scene. I could walk a 2 hour movie in about 20 minutes?
kapu_koa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, i remember moving Mullholland Drive i think it was from one theater to another and dropping it on the state'salong the way. A mile seems like a low estimate.
mr_punchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok i just ran some quick numbers and this doesn't make sense.
Ok there are 7200 seconds in a standard 2 hour movie. At 35mm per frame, roughly 32 frames per second that gives a length of 4.6 miles. So 1 hour of film would be well over 2 miles. Even reducing the frames to 20 per second still gets you a mile and a half.
chiagod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should help. In short, 35mm is the full width (picture portion of the film and the side parts that have the holes). 3/4" (number I used) is approximately distance from the top of one frame to the next frame.
The aperture height on the projector is 0.7", adding the distance between frames makes it about 0.75"
mr_punchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very cool thanks.
iluvstephenhawking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So 200 footage of reel is only like a minute maybe
Doogleyboogley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something to blow YOUR mind: On the space shuttle, even with a 99.9% component success rate, that STILL left hundreds of part that could of failed !! WOW
screen317 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:48:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
could have*
gutterpeach ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 18:46:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt think you can just go an buy someoneโs forest like that. They usually sell by the yard.
walkclothed ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:07:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If we're dealing with forests, we're usually going by acreage.
_Lady_Deadpool_ ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:11:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or by the national monument
Fluent_In_Subtext ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:13:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon
RabSimpson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Parsec?
safebrowseatwork ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:07:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other terms; data, video, documentation
mr_ewe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have 3mb of video of this forest.
I suppose that works.
LoonAtticRakuro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No indication of resolution, though. That could be 3 minutes of fuzz or 1 second of Not Bad.
jon909 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you know, film
safebrowseatwork ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was assuming digital.
RabSimpson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be digital film.
http://www.alivestudios.co.uk/digital.html
Monkey_painter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film refers back to the old reels too.
jon909 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:44:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry. Was going full circle. Shouldโve put the /s tag
Monkey_painter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah. Ic.
TheCenner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:30:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term I hear is selfies... as much as I hate that word. It is now being used to reference the actual word "picture" or "pics."
Had a nice lengthy argument about this on discord about what a selfie is compared to what pictures are. Apparently, I'm wrong. /s
swattz101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could be wrong, but... A selfie is a picture (or pic) of yourself, but not all pictures are selfies.
TheCenner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was my same argument. But, they kept calling all pictures selfies.
idkwhatiseven ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't it be 200 footage of forest film?
iluvstephenhawking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how i was thinking about wording it but everything sounds so weird.
SpazzzMonkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:45:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now it's "I have 200gb of footage of this forest"
QuinceDaPence ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:51:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imax is still done on film, google Imax reel.
Cohacq ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could say "i have 100gb of footage".
osiris775 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:22:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On a related note, "video-taping"
bolotieshark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the other hand, "record" is perfectly acceptable.
obi1kenobi1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a running joke on Comedy Bang Bang where Scott Aukerman asks guests who are plugging movies how many "reels" it is rather than how long it is.
PigSlam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And to produce that digital "footage," we still call the act of pointing a lense with an image sensor behind it "filming."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, film sounds alot better then digital representation of reality.
NewtAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid I thought footage in that context was a different word and was spelled photage. As in photo. Film was still common back then but I didn't understand the origin of the term.
mtarascio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have 3.6 terabytes of 540fps 4k content to make into a 1 minute timelapse of a flower.
jolsiphur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess the alternative is to just call it video recording at this point. Like "I have 2 hours of recording of the forest."
Snej15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Measuring footage in hours makes perfect sense: there is an accepted playback speed. If the speed of playback was entirely arbitrary (i.e. not playing at a speed equivalent to real-time), then sure, measuring footage in hours doesn't make sense.
underthecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? Like โrecorded mediaโ doesnโt quite roll off the tongue the same way and is too broad to begin with, not sure what else to call it though.
battraman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the silent era, films were measured in feet and reels because there was no standard projection speed at the time and theaters could (and did) speed up some films to get another showing in. The studios recommended against it but couldn't control it until sound came in.
BearChomp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Measuring footage in hours is about on par with measuring the length of a road trip in hours, which people do all the time... makes sense when there is a relative correlation between linear measurement and time
kkodaxeroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hours of footage"
thebonnar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When David Attenborough was in the jungle being gradually adopted by gorillas, they had to be super selective about what they filmed, because they only had so many feet of film with them
Mackelsaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much hourage can that thing take bro?
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. We still refer to "video tape" when talking about video recording, even though it's stored on solid-state memory, and not tape.
kamomil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well 40 frames of 16mm = 1 foot of physical film.
But you would say "I have 2 min of footage"
theyre_cousins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe "coverage"?
Gadgetman_1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:58 on April 4, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It makes more sense in that typical home/amateur film formats came in 50foot spools, but the recorded footage could be made with different number of frames/second. Professional film was usually 24 frames, but home film could be as low as 13 frames, or even lower. Some cameras could also take single frames, good for both still photography, or freeze-frame animation.
50foot is often the max length a home processing drum for 8mm/super8/16mm film is capable of handling.
And some super8 used 16mm film, and you had to split it down the middle after processing.
(You filmed the first 50' of film, took the spools out and flipped them over, then recorded another 50'. If the camera used simple spools, not a cassette, you needed to do the operation in darkness. )
I just got hold of such a camera, B/W film and a processing tank, and will try shooting some footage, just as soon as I learn to feed the film correctly into the tank spool. fiddly...
brush_between_meals ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:05:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just talking to someone about this the other day. Film stock was priced "per foot". (Well, per roll, but with a known number of feet per roll.)
Edit: And one obvious reason is that while 24 frames per second is the mainstream cinema standard, the length of film required for a given period of time would depend on the frame rate you ran the camera at. Hell, going way back to the early days of film, the cameras were cranked by hand.
And even now in the digital world, 1 hour of video could take less than 100MB or could take 10s of GB, depending on the resolution and encoding. While marketers will often try to express digital storage in terms of how many "hours of video" or "libraries of congress", the actual number of bytes (or mega, giga, tera, peta) conveys the most useful information to an informed consumer.
bumblebritches57 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:33:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uncompressed 1080p color 8 bit per pixel video takes up ...
1920 * 1080 * 3 * 60 minutes * 60 seconds * 24 frames = 537,477,120,000 bytes, aka 500GBs per hour.
epwnym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a Rec.2020 colour version would be 50% more
Itโs a good thing we have codecs.
bumblebritches57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
12 bit color != rec 2020.
JesseKeller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film stock is still priced per foot: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1085541-REG/kodak_8003642_vision3_50d_16mm_color.html
400 feet of 16mm at 24fps gets you around 12 minutes of screen time. The raw footage is $200, and processing will run you that much or more. So around $500 for 12 minutes of raw video, and even if you're a really efficient shooter you're talking at least 4-to-1 ratio of raw to edited material. So film stock alone will cost a thousand bucks per six minutes of final film. (And this is just for 16mm, used by super low-budget films, film students, etc., rather than more expensive 35mm, like the pros use)
FinAdartse ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:38:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My god...
jcs1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:03:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
footage
phootage
photo
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:20:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why have I never realized this.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:17:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:19:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheRemonst3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is still extremely common for people in the industry to refer to a digital video file as "footage". OP's observation is not only that the term refers to length of film, but also that it is incorrectly used to refer to shot video files in modern digital workflows.
kronosaurusdev ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:52:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen it
rangkloic ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:01:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stay noided
sexual_pasta ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:13:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seen crazy shit man, crazy shit
obi1kenobi1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:26:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember back in middle school trying to argue that it was pronounced "photage", because obviously it came from photography. Doesn't sound so stupid anymore, does it?
dr_salaharis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:36:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the film industry has tons of these. "Rolling" is still used but no longer applies, as digital cameras don't have film to roll. Hell, even saying that you're "filming" something is inaccurate - you're really recording something digitally.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:16:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ccdfa ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:41:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right but they're referring to the word "footage" which is used primarily on television, usually news stations. "Let's take a look at some footage of the car accident". While movie directors still use film, you wouldn't call a movie "footage". News stations, or anything that could be live on TV is shot digitally, but still referred to as "footage".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still valid, because "filming" is generally used to describe any sort of video recording, and "footage" is used to refer to both digital and analogue media.
mjxii ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BEAUTIFUL BEAN FOOTAGE!!!
thecrazysloth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And in French, "footage" translates as mรฉtrage, because of the metric system.
deception_lies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:43:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check out the big brain on Brett!
thecrazysloth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?
deception_lies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What country are you from?
thecrazysloth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?
skbharman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:12:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Maria Christ! I've always thought this was something about photo. Like photoage or something that became footage. Lordy what an awakening. Or, I mean, maybe overreacting here. I was just surprised. Didn't know. TIL. Coo!. Thanks!
frozenHelen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Additionally, "the whole nine yards."
TableHockey31313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:32:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive seen footage
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, i really never ever thought about it like that. Thank you for giving this to me
photolouis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what the hell do we use? I do videos occasionally, and it kills me to say "I need some more footage of ..." I can use "shot" because that's what I used for still images. It kills me.
TobyCrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In animation your quotas used to be measured in "feet", referencing the length of the physical film. 1 foot=16 frames of animation (played at 24 fps of course). This term is starting to die and most people just use seconds/minutes when talking about how long an animated scene is, but I've had a few old instructors who still hand out assignments this way.
VerticalRadius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film too I guess?
theskadudeguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All things to do with editing film: rushes, cuts, bins, splicing all come from he steinbeck days
bubblingunicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or to rewind a top reddit post of a guy sliding down a railing
VvermiciousknidD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Ireland we still watch "films".. Younger generation call them movies but most people will say film.. (pronounced feel-um)
Mike010117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Footage? I usually just scratch it
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still tell people I'm 'going to the pictures'.
TheRemonst3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever want to change it up, tell em you're going to the talkies.
TonyHxC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh... wow. I never actually knew WHY it was called footage. I just thought that was a legit name for it not slang.
InformalProof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Going the whole 9 yards" is a reference to the P-52 fighter planes from World War II, whose machine gun belts were 27 feet or 9 yards long for a combat load, to use the phrase means "totally spent" or "gone the distance".
Tiz68 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like โRoll that beautiful bean footageโ
boundless88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We use footage in the electrical construction/energy/utilities industries to refer to cable footages, trench footage etc. Nothing is ever just "foot."
NukaWax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โTapping that assโ used to refer to putting shoes on a mule.
mrfunkytown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh idk, I work professionally in the film industry and we use the term footage often regardless of film or digital capture.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh I'm tryna snag some dope footy brooo
Penguinkeith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIFL
Jareth86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joke's on you! My high-school filming course still trains kids to edit and record on physical film in 2017! The programming course is also in computer basic.
liquiciti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a videographer...... damn you just blew my mind.
KVirello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
jstead3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about footy for the boys?? Skiers??
xsladex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While not as common as it once was some pretty big companies still use tape for data back up. LTO tape can hold upwards of 10 TB of data making it easy to store and safeguard information. SSD's and HDD aren't as reliable yet
Arvidex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that it came from photons and light
anrii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call them "rushes" now
PseudonymIncognito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In in similar vein, British people still see "films" even though they aren't shown on film anymore.
Tokkemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gives new meaning to beautiful bean footage.
mappersdelight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean, "Roll that beautiful bean footage," won't stand the test of time?!?!
riskybusinesscdc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "movie," too. It's short for moving picture, but there are no pictures now. They're all digital files.
TTheuns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. I'm not a native speaker and this never occurred to me.
FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck my mind is blown.
PooPooCaCaChips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs weird when using xsheets in animation too.
arthuresque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clip. I was told it came from literal pieces of film that were cutโor clippedโinto smaller bits. Some places even use it synonymously with the word โvideo.โ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same goes for knots
Redkestrel1111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-roll no longer applies either!
ksa10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll it back.
teefour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow... I feel really dumb for never making that connection.
CakeIsaVegetable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an extension to that, when someone says "film it" with reference to digital video recording
skatanic_disciple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say footage all the time, I'm a student in film though
aaronxxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Play that beautiful bean video" doesn't have the same ring to it
Dotmatrix101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And wrap from the phrase 'that's a wrap' is an acronym for wind reel and print. Also not relevant if you're not shooting on film.
DeadboltKB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll that beautiful bean footage
shitty_mcfucklestick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The movie industry is full of these terms. Like when a sound recordist says โsound speedโ to confirm they are recording - that term comes from when recording was reel to reel and the machine had to get up to speed before you could start. Also, most terms related to editing video, such as types of edits (slip, cut, etc.) are all directly related to editing with film.
643dp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll that beautiful bean footage!"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The entire industry is called "film" still and just about every bit of terminology involved in film and photo is archaic by nature.
Looking at photographs from a shoot is still referred to as "film review" and a portfolio of work in video is still called your "reel."
Krail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a line in Stranger in a Strange Land where someone asks a guy how much video footage he got of their trip to Mars. The guy responds thousands of feet.
My first reaction, I laughed at the idea of taking a film camera to Mars.
magnakai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some films are still shot on film, and itโs still the most reliable moving image archival format.
daingandcrumpets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or video tape, and its seedy genesis, the sex tape
Jebbeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When filming Eastbound and Down, it was discussed how many feet of film we used since HBO seemingly gave complete freedom to Jodie and Danny. It was still actual film.
empireit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hijacking this for the related โclipsโ. Clips are/were literal clippings or cuttings from the longer footage.
The more you know.
-Geekier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: the rest of the world actually referred to it as โmeterageโ
My_cat_is_fat_ama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen footage i stay noided
patb2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut: as a change in a movie when they used to splice film together, now, it's just a change in view or scene
The_United_States_of ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just got off a shoot on RED cameras where the DP (age probably mid-50s) asked if card #3 had exposed footage on it. Exposed like it had to go be developed. That โfootageโ had playback on the client monitor at the same time we were capturing it. Just weird how those terms have and will still carry over into the digital age.
flugbone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:17:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It even "film" like "I'm going to make a film". It's mostly digital
JohnWColtrane ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:32:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, "film".
ccdfa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:42:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of movies still are being shot with film.
Edit: I see I was downvoted. Well, here are some directors that anyone who doesn't believe that movies are still being shot on film should look into:
TransitJohn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:44:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And also, film or tape. Nobody is filmed or taped. They're digitally recorded (for the most part).
T-A-W_Byzantine ยท 12012 points ยท Posted at 18:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Cob" is an archaic word for "spider", but we still say "cobweb".
frogman675 ยท 3289 points ยท Posted at 20:30:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does that make corn on the cob?
[deleted] ยท 4815 points ยท Posted at 20:51:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's where you slam your old Korn CD case on a spider to kill it.
Alrik ยท 917 points ยท Posted at 22:56:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, CDs came in cases?
Next you're going to tell me that they had disc art, instead of a white surface with the name of the album scribbled in sharpie.
[deleted] ยท 465 points ยท Posted at 23:03:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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NeonXero ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 23:09:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love you.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:49:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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NeonXero ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:24:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll take it.
spasEidolon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:27:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you will ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
Major_Techie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:44:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meatloaf - Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad
For anyone wondering
Palpable_Charisma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
System of a down or metallicas $9.98 album?
jalkser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how many people actually stole that album.
UnexpectedNickelback ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always was amazed by how ingenious that cover art was.
AmazingJames ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:17:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heck, they used to come in a tall cardboard cover with the CD inside!
Rprzes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:09:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy pirates.
contempt1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And when they came out there were 'long boxes' because the CDs were so small, they could easily be shoplifted so they displayed them in twice as long paper boxes with even more art on them.
I remember walking into stores with a razerblade and taking the cd cases out of them. Ahh, such easy shoplifting back then. Not like torrenting music nowadays.
LifeIsBadMagic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, somewhat rather, the CD and case had to be put into tall boxes because record stores (a place to go and buy records and tapes), couldn't foot the bill to suddenly change their display cases to benefit the displaying of CDs. CD jewel cases would just be hidden behind the slats, if it weren't for those slipcases.
contempt1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:18 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I didnโt realize it was because of shelving and totally makes sense. Those were the chains.
Versus at my independent stores, they had the cover art in vinyl sleeves that youโd search and if you wanted it, then theyโd bring the cd and cd case and take the cover out. That was the original frustration free packaging!
iRub2Out ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Music nowadays (torrents) are easy, very easy. The trick is not getting caught, that's where a VPN comes in (a paid one), get that VPN and grow that collection, son!
If you need help with any part of this PM me, I'd be happy to help.
Not that I know anything about torrents (what's that?) or VPNs (STD?) - I'm borderline retarded (but seriously)
: )
contempt1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:00 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs why I have my VPN. Oh, and for work. Yeah, work.
RonaldDumbsfield ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They had lyrics man, lyrics.
Bostonterrierpug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey the guy who copyrighted the digipack is still rich.
W0oby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy pirates...
Spock_Rocket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ANYONE GOT THE NEW CREED CD?
iRub2Out ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The new Tool would be good.
Wait... Nvm...
ChaosInfest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well...
jesset77 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:46:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's a CD though? Was that the little boxy one with spinny wheels inside that let DJ's make scratch sounds before they invented electricity?
EphemeralFate ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 21:18:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HAAAAANG OOOOONN, YOOUU
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:00:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HANG ON YOU
HAAAAAANG MEEEEEE OOOOOOOON!
HANG ON YOU
Kim_Jong_Unko ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:28:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boooom dap da ooo, dam da di dum
MonkeyWanKenobI ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:09:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Korn on the cob? You need a new job!
ladylei ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean use my coaster to kill a spider. But my drink is on it. I will just have to use my junk mail to start a fire and burn down my house. Then no more spiders or Korn CDs.
ziggrrauglurr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:47:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a 10 years old asks "what is a cd case? "
secrkp789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Haven't heard that name in a long time. Surprised I still remember their commercial from years ago.
KyberSithCrystals ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget to beatbox aggressively while you do it
V2G2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hmmm makes sense
chibbicharmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha then Jon Davis would cry and write a song about it.
plazman30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What would be cob on the Korn.
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Word up
jkovach89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be cob on the Korn...
ocean365 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/KenM
HipnikDragomir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I money wasn't an issue for me, I'd buy/give you reddit gold for this.
butthole_blaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see you have some Issues with spiders ;)
SquareJordan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why but this made me laugh historically. Have an upvote
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท -49 points ยท Posted at 21:53:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's vile. Don't kill spiders. Humans are no more special than any other creature.
neck_crow ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 22:14:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humans are a top tier build. Hopefully they get a nerf soon. Would allow for the octopus to begin dominating the meta.
TasteTheRaimbow ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:39:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humans have a high int gain but their strength and agility are lacking compared to some other hard carries
neck_crow ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:45:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humans have the "Builder" passive. This means we can max out any of our other stats besides HP. Need to move faster? Get a car. Need higher Power? Get a weapon. Need higher defense? Wear some armor. That's why Humans are OP. They are hard carries. Not even fun tbh.
guitarromantic ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:09:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meanwhile, Legs was the spider dump stat.
YungLeanTrapTrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was that a "Smite" reference?
neck_crow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:30:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/TierZoo
TasteTheRaimbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but if youโve got a support with crappy farm roaming the jungle, a lion could easily two or three-shot them
neck_crow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humans with nearly max level crafting can build massive vehicles that no other class can damage. They named them after the class Rhinos and Hippos fall under: Tanks.
HXCpolarbear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humans have a tendency to 322 so other creatures will have the spotlight soon enough
TitaniumDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends; human agility and strength are both pretty respectable, but the tool-use skill lets them boost their strength to levels that are vastly beyond any other build. Agility is also pretty variable; high-agility humans are extremely agile, but such builds tend to be limited in other ways.
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but that constitution though. Wouldn't want a human chasing me.
Simple_Danny ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:20:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if spiders had computers and their own internet? Imagine all the millions of spiders around the world using their eight legs to type at far greater speeds than any mortal man could. What would they call this world wide web?
Little-Jim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine the spider memes
spideyjiri ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 22:05:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was with you about not killing spiders but humans are absolutely special, come back to me when you can present any other creature in our known existence than can coherently argue otherwise.
I'm totally against animal cruelty but I am a human supremacist.
Xandralis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does having an ability that no one else has make you special if everyone has their own ability?
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:19:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Spiders are special because they can build their own home from organic materials that they produce with their own body.
Humans are special because they can reason and conceptualize abstract ideas. And we have like a dozen different ways of communicating those abstracts to others.
Alrik ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:57:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humans could do this, we just don't want to.
TheOneTrueGod69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that where the phrase "brick shit house" comes from?
thel4sthotsuin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the most expensive coffee on the planet comes out of an elephant's ass
pumpkinrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it came from those tiny rodents?
thel4sthotsuin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sure
pumpkinrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohh. So the rodent coffee is no longer the most expensive one. Thank you for the link.
HardlightCereal ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:07:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you see it...
zzwugz ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:19:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. All life is equal. Kill that spider, but put its body to good use. Feed another, stronger pet spider to contribute the food chain. Or mulch to feed plants
drfeelsgoood ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:32:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only use the finest of spiders in my gardens.
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:32:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, don't kill it.
zzwugz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Death is but the beginning of new life -random guy on the internet
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 22:31:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you're still vile. Or intelligence makes us unique. Not special.
Moist4Gnomes ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:02:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Special definition: better, greater, or otherwise different from what is usual.
I'm pretty sure we fit the criteria for that unless any other animal of any species wants to speak up against me
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 22:32:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your intelligence doesn't make you better than another animal. That's just egotisical, and gross.
OneHit1der ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:37:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course we are better than other animals. The fact that there is no other animal that can advocate for itself and debate me on the subject proves that point.
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:44:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't. It is a great e and of how amazing human intelligence is, but it, in literally no way, makes us better than other animals.
Not that it would matter, but you can't even claim to have helped in getting humans to this point. You're not better because you happened to be born. That's grossly egotistical.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am. I'm stronger faster bigger smarter tougher braver kinder better.
But you've abused the english language to make it sound like you're talking about moral high ground. In which case, we're exactly equal in terms of intentions, her actions being a result of her instincts and mine a result of my upbringing. And in terms of actions, it's impossible to know if the spider ate the butterfly that was going to make a tornado in china, just as I can't know if I said something that changed the next Lincoln's or Hitler's views and saved or doomed the world.
Moist4Gnomes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:42:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My intelligence 100% makes us better than other animals
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in the slightest. It only fuels your grossly inflated ego .
MCRatzinger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least they didn't use a limp bizkit cd
Complaingeleno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell if... \s?
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in the slightest.
Complaingeleno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So like... do you tread softly when you walk to avoid killing environmental yeast cells?
computerhater ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:08:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thumbs. humans have thumbs.
onlysquirrel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:13:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But we shouldn't kill spiders because they eat things that are even nastier than they are.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:29:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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valiantfreak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:28:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck orb spiders. They set up webs between my verandah posts and wait at face level for me to walk into them
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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valiantfreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Misunderstood guys just want to get to know us better
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Face level is a fly's favourite level.
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:33:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No animal is nasty.
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:34:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes no difference to how special an animal is, in the slightest.
Also, human hands are more primitive than chimpanzee hands.
Not that it makes any difference. Humans aren't more special, regardless.
Saltpunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um, no, human and chimpanzee hands have both evolved to fit their respective niches. They're not "more primitive".
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:45:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the sense that the current design of them reached maturation sooner, yes they are.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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KarlyPilkboys20 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The chimpanzee. Obviously. Humans aren't special. That's gross.
ClarencesClearance ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:14:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So chimps are special?
Saltpunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so if you don't pick the human because that would make them special, why do you pick the chimpanzee? Are you saying chimpanzees are more special than humans?? That's fucking gross, or so I've heard!
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because humans, as has been displayed with the replies to my comments, are gross.
pumpkinrum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do you consider yourself gross?
KarlyPilkboys20 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:00:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not as gross as some, grosser than others.
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chimps are strong when it comes to pulling, but they can't throw for shit.
TheoneandonlyTate ยท 139 points ยท Posted at 23:24:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do actually come from the same thing. Cob came from the word coppe, meaning head. Spiders were called "Atorcoppe" meaning "poison heads" eventually shortened to just cob. Corncob meant head of corn, since it's at the top of the corn.
squidboots ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:37:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To clarify for Americans, "corn" in this context - the etymology of "corn cob" - doesn't mean ๐ฝ (aka maize or Zea mays) . "Corn" is used in a more archaic way:
All of those crops (wheat, oats, barley, rye, sorghum, etc... basically everything but maize) have seed heads, meaning a seed bearing structure at the top of the plant shoot/stem/stalk ๐พ. That's why it's called the "head" and where "cob" comes from. Maize, however is super weird and the seed is not in a structure at the top of the stalk, it's about halfway up the stalk. The tassel at the top is just what sheds pollen (no seeds). So guess what maize "heads" are conventionally called? Ears. You harvest ears of corn. And because this isn't confusing enough, sometimes you'll hear folks talk about "ears of barley" and such. They mean barley head. It's used interchangeably now.
And thus... Although "corncob" used to mean a seed head at the top of a cereal crop, it now just means the thing maize seeds are attached to (which isn't even at the top at all) and doesn't have anything to do with other cereal crops anymore. It really doesn't make any damn sense.
TL;DR Giving plants animal part names to explain what they are... maybe not the best strategy.
RCcola159 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:08:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...did I just subscribe to Corn Facts?
altonin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:16:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate the illustrative use of emojis here
Erit_Of_Eastcris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very fascinating lesson. Thanks a lot for sharing!
montalvv ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:08:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that whole scene in the Hobbit makes more sense.
bloodfist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:56:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What scene?
PageFault ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:59:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When they were attacked by the giant corn.
Sandslinger_Eve ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:13:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow
in Norwegian spiders are called Edderkopp. I find that the older the word is on English the closer it is to Norwegian, and old Scots is at times nearly the same language.
Klarok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:30 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, Tolkein used this in a poem in the Hobbit.
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Old_fat_spider_spinning_in_a_tree!
quicktolearn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy knows his headwords.
Pathakman ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 21:38:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Corn on the archaic word for spider
mullet85 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:19:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess if you were seeing it for the first time it does have a cobweb-ish pattern
amaROenuZ ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:02:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And is full of silk!
stevencastle ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 21:16:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EVERYTHING'S ON A COB!
Arrian77 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 22:20:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THE WHOLE PLANET'S ON A COB! GO! GO! GO!
Frodo5213 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:21:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GET BACK ON THE SHIP!!
brownhues ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 01:26:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewers head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenevs Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. ๐
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid ๐
frotc914 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:32:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry guy, this pasta is already stale
GruesomeCola ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:46:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the Rick and Morty copypasta. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of the 18th century english literature most of the subtlties will go over a typical readers head. There's also the paragraphs nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into its syntax - its own philosophy draws heavily from the works of Shakespeare, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of its jokes, to realise that It's not just funny- it says something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike the Rick & Morty copypasta truly ARE idiots - of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in the paragraphs initial existential phrase "To be fair..." which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenevs Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as /u/Niekisch's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. ๐
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty copypasta tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid ๐
safec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What
sovamind ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:17:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likely that the cob of an ear of corn comes from the corn thread being similar to a spider's silk. I believe some people even call the corn threads silk today.
AlphaXTaco ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:57:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Terrifying.
Singspike ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horrifying.
Pfthwack ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:03:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scary
King-Jimmy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:04:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A gross thought after reading this comment.
Citizen_Concerned_A ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:54:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tasty Corn of Spider
SeeYouSpaceCowboy--- ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:25:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
absolutely nothing
But fun fact, the average person swallows 15 cobs per year in their sleep.
demonballhandler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:12:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're including Spiders Georg.
strongbob25 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is almost certainly untrue. In point of fact, this is an urban legend that no one knows the origins of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjlKIjLWq-Y
SeeYouSpaceCowboy--- ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:18:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In point of fact, it was a joke playing off the oft-posted notion that this is an urban legend, relying largely on the absurdity of the mental image of swallowing cobs of corn in your sleep unbeknownst to you.
strongbob25 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jokes on you I deep throat corn cobs nightly
SeeYouSpaceCowboy--- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, you're the one driving up the average!
annatheadventurer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's been disproven - thank goodness.
Mr_Biscuits_532 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:07:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or East Midlander for bread rolls?
BearChomp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: corn cobs are actually full of spiders
WaffleMonsters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Delicious
LavastormSW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Terrifying.
Guesty_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
corn on the spider
LoneRangerLong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A spider with a corn on his toe? One of his toes?
You can't see it, but only a wearer knows where the shoe hurts.
Krail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:06:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you see, in the old days conrcobs used to be spiders with corn on them.
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/explainlikeimcalvin
last_minutiae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it has to do with corn silk looking like spider web?
HerePussyFishy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Ty Cob holding a corn on the cob?
dbarkwoof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
disgusting if I think about it too hard
Defavlt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disgusting.
SirMildredPierce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not as horrifying as cob in the corn!!!!
bluelightzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off the table.
aaronxxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't ruin corn for me
Claxamazoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's referencing the similarities of corn silk & spider silk.
Stagamemnon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A dead spider and a ruined picnic.
KingMelray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is where you may actually eat 8 spiders a year.
meghonsolozar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gross
monkeyheadme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Corn is an old English term for any large grain of something. Hence corning beef. The large grains of salt were corns. So really its grans on a spider.
Bitchinbeats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No wonder Rick was so unsettled by the planet on a cob
myoreosmaderfaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A freak on a leash.
decaturbadass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good eatin'
leftsharksdancecoach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean to tell me I ate a spider salad?!
winstondabee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or a cob salad? Aaaaaaaah!
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well daddy longlegs look like little copper buttons (particularly the ones on police uniforms) so people used to refer to them a coppers or cops. Cobwebs is the natrual progression of copwebs.
fcpeterhof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you've ever been in a cornfield...full of fucking spiders.
GenitaliaDevourer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they mate there?
fcpeterhof ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From your username I'm guessing you are a spider looking for some action...
snowboo ยท 321 points ยท Posted at 22:17:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my cousin was little, he called them 'spidercobs' and I still say it because I like it. TIL I'm saying 'spiderspiders'. Still gonna say it.
Jockett ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:14:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spider cob, spider cob. Does whatever a spider cob
Lord_Norjam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no they got them.
snowboo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cobman! Cobman! Does whatever a cob can!
warhorse24 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:52:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit moon moon
nelsonbm ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 20:35:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now when I think of corn of the cob, its just a spider carrying corn kernel.
caulfieldrunner ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:36:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also see: The soot sprites in Spirited Away.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:02:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The kernels are its eggs
HighSpeedCarcast ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:14:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โEverythingโs on a Cob! Everyone, back in the ship!!โ
26_Charlie ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:30:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to scroll, but I found you.
Monsieur_Roux ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 20:51:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the Danish and Norwegian the word for spider is still "edderkop(p)", with the kop(p) being the same as the English cob.
Esc_ape_artist ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 21:56:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, when Bilbo makes fun of the spiders in Mirkwood he calls them Attercop, which is Old English for the same thing.
try_____another ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:31:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently it stuck around in some north-eastern English dialects until within living memory.
Jazco76 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:21:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how many other middle earth hobbit terms are still used today?
WestboroBro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hated that part of the book cause i didn't understand what was going on. I still don't know what a tomnoddy is
Esc_ape_artist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:52:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tomnoddy - someone that is slow, an idiot. I had to look it up, too. Iโd read the books a few decades ago and had no idea either, but since the LotR movies came out thereโs no shortage of information about Tolkienโs works online. Basically heโs calling the spiders slow and stupid to goad them into acting without thinking.
Acid_Tribe ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 22:34:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, though I would only use the word cobweb for an old, dusty abandoned spiderweb. And spiderweb for an active web with a spider in it. So there is kind of a distinction
Tychus_Kayle ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:14:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's great, we use an older word for spiders to refer to older webs.
44problems ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:32:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the common usage.
go_for_the_bronze ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:21:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice one!
RapedBacon ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 20:26:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait I though cobwebs were just accumulated dust and debris whereas spider webs were the actual creature creation
Kirbychu ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 20:31:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dust generally doesn't accumulate in perfect strands and webs, it has to build up on top of something. "Cobwebs" are almost always an abandoned spider web that has started to collect dust, making it look different.
agentlame ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:14:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While this is correct, in modern usage don't both words now have different meanings? Even if people don't realize "cobwebs" start as spiderwebs, they are still referring to an abandon dusty web.
Very_legitimate ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, I've never thought of these words as different concepts. I've always felt they meant the same thing. Also I have heard many people use "cobweb" in clear reference to a newly made not dusty spider web
muddisoap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are absolutely different things.
Koraxtheghoul ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:42:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really though? Charotte in Charotte's Web for sure refers to her webs as cobwebs... does it seem more natural to refer to disused wens as cobwebs... yeah... but definitely see them used interchangeably.
muddisoap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but it was published in 1952. So...there goes that theory.
Very_legitimate ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:03:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't feel like that means much. Just because it's from the 1950s doesn't mean it is invalid. Has language really changed so much since the 50s that you can use that you would call it too dates to consider?
For what it is worth, if you Google "cobweb vs spider web" the first results say they can be used interchangeably, so you've got an old source of it and a current source. Seems fair to say they're interchangeable
muddisoap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theyโre just not man. Maybe in the 50s. But not now. And yes language has changed a lot since 1952. Average conversation is decently different. In most peopleโs opinion, a cobweb is an old dusty unused spiderweb, and spiderweb is a current and in use one. Itโs just the way it is. You can use them interchangeably, but it wonโt sound right to people who are familiar with modern vernacular and colloquialism.
Very_legitimate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's not hard to do a Google source and see plenty of people see no problem using them interchangeably and sounding fine.
rawbface ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 20:46:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cobwebs start as spider webs, then get dusty.
Dust does not form webs on its own.
DeltaVZerda ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 20:49:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give it a few billion years to evolve into a spider and it does.
erremermberderrnit ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 21:15:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, that's literally what happened. The earth is made from dust from an exploding star. If you leave enough dust around for long enough, it turns into animals and society and starts calculating things about itself.
BlenderIsBloated ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 21:25:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We are dust experiencing itself.
astroskag ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:26:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All we are is dust in the wind, dude.
am-i-joking ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:07:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be excellent to each other!
-tar0t- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:56:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We are cobs webbing ourselves
ayyyylalamamao ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:29:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems legit
Crabonok ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:43:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and people say religion makes no sense
erremermberderrnit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:49:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even the bible says man was made from dust. They may have been on to something
jambox888 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:38:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, yo momma so nasty, my dick got to rust.
atonementfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dust by itself wouldn't, and I think water by itself has a way higher chance. Unless the transformers are real.
Sky_Muffins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dust is far too dry to evolve life. If anything, you need an aqueous solution for molecules to freely react in. Which is why all cells to this day are wet on the inside.
whenigetoutofhere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That we know of!
fuckswithboats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to know I'm not alone...
flooopthepigg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have always been terrified of spiders. So my parents would try to convince me that it wasn't a spider web in my room, but a cobweb, which was an abandoned spider web.
MFCH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought cobwebs were abandoned spiderwebs that accumulated dust and debris.
funnyredditnam3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:33:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
crazy. I thought the same thing
awskiski09 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:04:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice that cobweb is the word for archaic spiderwebs.
MattieShoes ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 20:42:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cob is not an archaic word for spider -- atorcoppe was.
ator being poison and coppe being head.
:-)
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 22:05:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because one word is an archaic word doesn't mean there aren't other archaic words with the same meaning. Atorcoppe developed into coppe which developed into cob.
MattieShoes ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:18:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I mentioned it in another comment. I didn't know it was ever just used as "cob". Apparently maybe it was and I was just wrong. :-)
GGLarryUnderwood ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:30:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesnโt have to be that youโre wrong. The real story was just more complex than you assumed.
OmitsWordsByAccident ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:48:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://tolkien.cro.net/else/spiders.html
MattieShoes ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:16:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay apparently somewhere, somewhen it was?
Northcrook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing that "coppe" meaning head has the same roots as capital and capo.
someguy3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:29:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I think it's getting more common to say spider web.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless your from the Midlands in the UK, then it's another word for bread roll.
jambox888 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the old Brummie spiderbread.
Spiderbread, spiderbread, does something something to your head
kurttheflirt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:08:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah so Old Cob in the Kingkiller Chronicles is some reference to a spider. I guess like a spider spins a web, he spins a tale?
MarkovNeckbrace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:28:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is also a word ("cobbenet"), in some dutch dialect (somewhere in Flanders) that my grandmother spoke, Found that quite peculiar.
admiraltarook ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely you mean Bun
SemanticSchmitty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:23:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is called a cranberry morpheme for all you morphologists out there
scoyne15 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like it. Cobwebs refer to old webs that are no longer used, much like the term cob itself.
ArkitekZero ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:21:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I totally thought cobwebs were not the same as spider webs
xeil ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:54:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always used 'cobweb' when referring to old spider webs that have collected dust, fallen apart, and have basically have no spiders living on them.
billebop96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They arenโt. A cobweb is an abandoned spiderweb. At least thatโs what we were always taught at school.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is modern English, cob for spider isn't modern English. Cobweb in the old context is synonymous to spiderwebs.
billebop96 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:14:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, but I was just replying to the guys statement about whether the two were the same, which they arenโt. I didnโt mention anything about modern or old English.
Koraxtheghoul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They aren't necessarily separate. I mean in Charlotte's Web Form example she states she is spinning cobwebs.
AdminEchoNullVoid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:01:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Suddenly I understand why they had to leave that planet-on-the-cob
scienceisanart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered about that.
UserNumber314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wondered what a Damn "cob" was! Thanks!
Lord_Punchings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bread roll, innit?
LemonJongie23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit TIL. Up until this point I thought cob webs were just another word for dust and debris in the air
white_butterfly1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck. I've never even thought about that but now I can't stop thinking about it.
fairlywired ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still (sort of) used in some places in the North of the UK. Although they say attercop, which comes from the Old English atorcoppe, meaning venom head.
Camcamcam753 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe Rick Sanchez is arachnophobic
TheHancock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait a minute... EVERYTHING IS ON A COB!!
generic-user-1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Corn on a spider
theniceguytroll ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever had corn on the spider?
willdempsey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So is the phrase "sweating cobs" about beads of sweat looking like spiders on your skin maybe?
Ghost4000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We always say spider web unless we're talking about an abandoned web, then it's a cob web.
aaryg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cob loaf?
Spoon_Elemental ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's not wrong.
i3aby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told that a cobweb was made of dust and other gunk - not the same as a spiderweb, despite people often using them interchangeably. I never fact checked it, though. I think I was like 10.
RandallOfLegend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually refer to cobwebs as the really dusty old webs, and spiderwebs as the fresh ones that likely contain a spider.
HolyRamenEmperor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Legit didn't know cobwebs were spiderwebs. Thought it was just dust that clung together like protein chains.
cb0e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
Yollom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It comes from Edderkop which is Danish for Spider
YuNg-BrAtZ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:19:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it doesn't.
It comes from Old English "ฤtorcoppe" (literally poison-head), which meant spider. It's descended from the same Germanic root as the Danish word, but the English does not come from Danish -- it's a native English word.
Yollom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
CrimsonGlyph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought cobwebs were abandoned spider webs, but I'm not sure where I ever heard that.
jebuz23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was younger I used to think that cobwebs were different than spider webs. I guess I thought they were just made by dust or something?
Zelotic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My google fu does not agree with you
YuNg-BrAtZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually "cop", but the rest of it's right.
Zhammie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here I was always taught that a "cobweb" was just an old spider web that hadn't been in use for a while
bkaneshiro14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, considering they made the word to specify that it was spiders that made the cobweb, what other kinds of webs were there?
omg__really ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never even thought about this before. Huh, TIL.
stick_fig5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always said spider web for current webs, and cobweb for webs that have been collecting dust and clearly aren't in use, I want if It's like that because, old term, old web?
danipitas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Arachnarchaic
GunnyH1GHway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Cob webs are the dirty non spider webs under your house.
disatisfied1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So...what does "living high on the cob" mean?
Montuckian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call fresh webs 'spiderwebs' and old webs 'cobwebs' because the latter is made by old spiders.*
*may not be entirely accurate
YoureSoStupidRose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always told myself that spiderwebs were made by spiders and cobwebs were just magically made by dust... but now I know and all basements are now FUCKING terrifying.
sqgl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well back in the day then, did they distinguish between used and abandoned webs?
7fingersphil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, and I'm probably way wrong, but I always thought there was a difference between a cobweb and a spider web. I thought a cobweb was a long abandoned spiders web, no longer is a spider using it and it's probably covered in dust etc. A spiders web was one that a spider was still using to catch prey, sleep, or whatever they do. Is that not the case?
Octarine_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happened to the word "cob" be transformed in "spider"? Like, what is the history of those words?
Pugilisdick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Cob" is an arachnid word", but we still say "cobweb". -Shitty subeditor
Imakeboom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason "cobwebs" in my house were referred to webs that were old and abandoned by the spider, and "spider webs" were always newer and usually accompanied by a fucking spider. I honestly thought that there may have been a difference until now, but nope. Lol
Cantaimforshit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought a cobweb was just a dense small web Edit:a word
BorrowedInk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cobman!
Expat_with_cat ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 23:23:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a fun nautical one I learned from my uncle when I was young.
"Son of a gun" is actually quite a horrible thing to call a person. Back when ships usually didn't allow women to join (for various reasons), the highlight of docking was allowing prostitutes on board.
And, you know, when a man and a woman have enough time together, children are born and presented to the ship.
In the log it would go. If the man would (ha) man up and claim it as their own, the log would read something like "daughter of Samuel was born" or "son of Johnathan was born ."
If none of the men claimed the child, the ledger would read, "son of a gun was born."
tl;dr: Calling someone "a son of a gun" is like calling them "an unwanted son of a prostitute."
jrhooo ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:56:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alternative, there's the etymology, that "gun" was an informal reference to a sailor or soldier themself.
A "legitimate" child would obviously have his father's name. Thus, "son of a gun" = the unclaimed kid of some random visiting G.I., a bastard.
sexy_jedi_unicorn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:53:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fascinating.
SharqZadegi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:11:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as I know, this was a reference to how the gun rooms (not sure of the proper term, but the areas where the main cannon armament sat) were used for conjugal visits. I would imagine this to be because there's not much going on there when the ship is in port, other than maybe routine maintenance, but this is just conjecture.
snitchnipple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:37:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I was wondering why the word gun was being used
jherazob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:42:59 on December 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freaking thing, we gotta go to the Captain and say to him "Language!"
Jackal_6 ยท 2236 points ยท Posted at 19:52:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Turning" lights on and off is a vestige of the gaslight era when you would literally turn a valve.
timthetollman ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 21:53:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself I have dimmers. Also in French they say literally open and close the lights.
billypancakes ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 22:49:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is funny because when you "close" the lights, you're actually "opening" the circuit.
WatNxt ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 23:55:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, learned basic electronics in french... really confusing!
buster2Xk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:21:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
รlectronique de base doesn't seem all that confusing to me!
WatNxt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:13:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
circuit fermรฉ = "circuit รฉteint"? Ben non, la lumiรจre est ouverte donc le circuit est fermรฉ.
buster2Xk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh... I know a few of those words... I think I got what you were going for though.
OliMonster ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:16:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you'd be closing the valve on the gas line!
emmerzed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:09:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same in Chinese.
0xTJ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:25:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For closing, yes, but which word is it for turning them on? I use ignite for that in French.
Stoltheds ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:08:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah oui? Allumer et ouvrir arenโt quite the same.
noticethisusername ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:03:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ton of people use "ouvrir la lumiรจre" and "fermer la lumiรจre", which is easy to confirm by googling the two. It's stigmatized, but it's not rare. It's probably more common in certain regions.
FreeInformation4u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would it be stigmatized? Is there something bad about one of them?
noticethisusername ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:48:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing is wrong with it, some people just use "allumer" and "รฉteindre". Stigma in language doesn't come from any objective deficiency. It's just people speaking one variety complaining about people speaking another, or grumps complaining about new usage.
EngineerBill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Former Quebec resident, can confirm that's how we say it...
Stoltheds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโll tell you thatโs very rare. Source: iโm french. Never heard it. And iโve lived in many corners of the country. Maybe old people in the north?
Coltrain_ ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:17:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The language thing is why the term shut off the light is common in some places. Everyone in my area says shut off the light instead of turn off the light, even though most people only speak English.
ramplocals ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:13:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or cut the lights in Southern USA
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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thedancinghamster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Cut the lights on." I am from Seattle but live in Georgia, so I know this sounds ridiculous, but it's true.
QuinceDaPence ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:19:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Int the south I hear cut on and cut off used mostly for things that have an auto cut off and auto restart. Like an air compressor, fills up, cuts off, air gets to the low point, compressor cuts on.
This is the only sensible way I've heard it but you'll occasionally come across someone that uses it for everything...
"Cut t'at motor on"
"No Cletus, that ain't how it works"
Coltrain_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:51:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Turn the lights on."
MairusuPawa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:09:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't?
timthetollman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn on/off
MairusuPawa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Allumer / รteindre
Open / Close would be Ouvrir / Fermer
The_Quibbler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:45:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I encountered this working in Asia. Open the camera or computer, as well. Actually makes intuitive sense, I guess.
Amadan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:00:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, my native language (Croatian) has us "igniting" and "dousing" the light :)
Angsty_Potatos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:10:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We say shut and open the light where I grew up
nyrol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife has always said open/close the light. She speaks English primarily, but also Romanian.
wildgift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ha, my late father always said "close the lights". He was born in the US in 1923.
ferociousPAWS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who spoke yiddish as a first language who would say "close the lights" but I don't know if that was a universal thing or just her
DarthRegoria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in Greek. I went to school with a lot of Greek kids and they would always say (in English) open/ close the lights or open/ close the TV. In Greek, they use the same word.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean like how you open and close a gas valve?
timthetollman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea.
GayFesh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:58 on December 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a dimmer switch on my nightstand but it's a slider, not a dial.
oscbsc ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:01:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I think we're still very much in a gaslight era budy...
Jackal_6 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:02:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heyooooo
Locke_Step ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, you always say that, don't you? Just like you always say so many things about etymological definitions all the time.
3urny ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:15:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk, there is an old kind of light switch (looks like this) where you would literally turn the electric lights on.
CastificusInCadere ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:58:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
makes you wonder how long before "flipping" the lights off is obsolete...
FadedMaster1 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 21:20:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Psh, been obsolete for a while.
Clap on! Clap off!
metalspaghetti ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:21:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kids say "click the lights" and my littlest says "turn up" and "turn down" the windows. But she thinks of the window as the open space so it gets even more tricky...
bishopsanspants ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:19:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Illuminate, deluminate. There, isn't that better?
Eats_Ass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad tried this out when my brother and I were little. Unfortunately for him, my brother was a smart ass and I looked up to him. We'd extend our fingers to the lights and be like "Now what?".
xrumrunnrx ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:16:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me wonder where the term "cut the lights on/off" started. Seems like I've mainly heard that from older rural people.
dirty30foroneyear ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:53:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People say this all the time in the south. I've heard it refers to trimming the wicks of lanterns but not sure if that's bullshit.
Gneiss1too ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:52:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in an old house that still has some of the original light switches, which turn to go on or off, probably because people back then were used to the turning on and off from gas lights.
Nix-geek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather, who learned English as a second language late in his life and grew up in a very rural, harsh, landscape used to say, 'shut the light.' Not 'shut the light off.' but just shut it.
As in shut the door or shut the window or shut the curtains.
I always liked the visualization of shuting the light.
techcaleb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, "turn down the lights"
DeathsIntent96 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure about this one because the usage is so general. What about stuff like "she turned red"?
Not_Cleaver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of this before.
Are you sure youโre not gaslighting me?
Aurorabeamblast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one hit me the most. In action, we always flick the switch but always say "turn". No wonder.
ArrakeenSun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First one here I genuinely didn't know. Have an upvote!
Tadiken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So just the general concept of "turn on" or "turn off" is because of the gaslight era?
kerningmaster42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That just really fucked with my mind
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah no. My grandparents still have turnable lightswitches in their house.
sidd-a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could now be associated with dimmer switches
MrCatFaceMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Turning" is also used on TV and Film sets to let everyone on set that they are filming and have to be quiet. It refers to how film used to be recorded on a roll of film and would turn while filming.
let_them_burn ยท 6766 points ยท Posted at 17:44:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Balls to the Wall/Ball's Out
It's not a sexual allusion. It refers to a type of governor/speed indicator used on old time drive engines (like steam engines). Weighted balls were attached via a hinge mechanism to a rotating shaft that was synced to the engine speed. As the speed of rotation increased, centrifugal (or is it centripetal?) force caused the balls to swing outward. If the machine was in an enclosed structure, the balls would therefore be closer to the walls, hence, balls to the wall means going at the maximum speed/rpm.
TL:DR - "Balls to the wall" has nothing to do with testicles.
zerobeat ยท 836 points ยท Posted at 19:50:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...or potentially has an origin in aviation referencing aircraft throttle. Regardless, now you have to listen to some Accept.
Fuzzyninjaful ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 21:42:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at google ngram viewer, it most likely comes from aircraft throttles. It didn't come into popularity until the 1960s, well after the time of the steam engine. If it did come from the steam locomotive, I would expect it to come into usage much earlier.
mattgrum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:02:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By the same token "balls out" is clearly to do with steam power. Two similar terms with vastly different origins...
hatsnatcher23 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:11:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always heard it as reference to the aircraft throttle, and it makes more sense than the steam engine stuff
RoyceJulius ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 22:42:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Balls out = steam engine
Balls to the wall = old school aviation
hatsnatcher23 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:46:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*The best school of aviation
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:15:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assure you, they are still used in modern aviation instrumentation
RoyceJulius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe Iโm misremembering, but I thought there were balls on top of the engine throttles... they still have giant throttle sticks?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still have throttle sticks, but my pilot father always told me it referred to this which I misread this thread for.
RoyceJulius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just read up on it, the phrase refers to the throttle and mixture plungers.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:56:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freeballing = old school steam
yoooooosolo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Ballin the jack" is often falsely attributed to the railroad industry, but actually came from a dance in the American southeast around the turn of the century.
ryan2point0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know the dance wasnt inspired by railroads?
yoooooosolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because NPR told me so. Therefore, it's indisputable
dapleasa ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:32:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BALLS TO ZE WALL!
Outlaw_Jose_Cuervo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:07:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man!
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:19:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The procedures for having an engine fail in flight on a multi engine aircraft are:
Balls to the wall, identify, verify, feather, raise the dead.
Source: Am pilot.
Edit:
Balls to the wall -> push the mixture, prop, and throttle controls (literally balls on a stick in older twins) forward to the stops (the wall)
Identify: Figure out which engine died. Usually you'll be using an insane amount of rudder with one foot. So the phrase idle foot, idle engine (the foot not straining is the dead side).
Verify: Reduce the throttle on what you expect to be the dead engine. If you're right, no change occurs.
Feather: Do the same thing to the propeller control. It turns the blade edge-on with the wind so the propeller doesn't windmill. This significantly reduces drag because the spinning propeller is absorbing enough energy to turn over the engine and its accessories, which will cause the plane to rotate heavily in that direction (thus the heavy rudder usage).
Raise the dead: bank into the good engine a few degrees to help counteract the rotational impact of the dead engine (banking into the good engine raises the dead engine -> raise the dead, easy to remember).
Average_Sized_Jim ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:27:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't click the link, and the riff played in my head anyway.
CaptainDickbag ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:28:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it did. You can't forget Accept.
Th3R00ST3R ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:49:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was looking for this..thanks, Udo Dirkschneider!
RandyReaver ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:45:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) Never heard that song before
2) I think thats the most homoerotic album cover Ive ever seen in my life
CaptainDickbag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You haven't seen some of the Manowar covers. Look up the cover for Manowar: Anthology.
YoTeach92 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:26:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvotes for Accept!
AKA Please Accept my upvote
11bulletcatcher ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:47:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And mine, faster than a shark!
shardikprime ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:27:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
upvoting for Accept
\m/ ( -_- ) \m/
finotac ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:48:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks \m/
jrhooo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:10:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Believe "push the envelope" was from pushing the flight envelope, the boundaries of an aircraft's safe operating specs.
thrashinbatman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:26:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
upvote and a comment for the Accept reference!
The_Quibbler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:20:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know you like some light, but sorry, there is no lamp.
deathschemist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fantastic tune that is
GLBMQP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:09:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God bless ya
PAUNCHS_PILOT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for Accept!
llewkeller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - some people still call car accelerators "throttles" - but aren't they the opposite?
KJ6BWB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably aircraft. The old centrifugal speed governors generally weren't used inside a closed tube. You want more air so that they don't just swish around some air.
Solesaver ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:07:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet... I'm sure who-ever coined the term and everyone who popularized it knew exactly what the allusion was. They were just happy to have an explanation for why them being so crass was totally fine. :P
spyfox321 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:52:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They Knew.
CrazyJay10 ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 20:18:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Centripetal force is the force holding a mass in a circular trajectory, like a string holding a ball to a tether or gravity holding the moon around Earth.
Centrifugal force is the theoretical opposite: The force pushing the object away, perpendicular to the center. This isn't a real force, as what "pushes" the object "away" away is simple momentum. The object moves parallel to the center, not perpendicular.
There may be an updated definition, but my science professor always hated the term "centrifugal force" for those reasons.
Divine_Mackerel ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 21:09:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Centrifugal force" does exist, it just depends on your frame of reference. From the frame of reference of the spinning object, it definitely exists. From a fixed outside reference, it doesn't, so 'objectively' it doesn't.
It sometimes is useful to consider it as real, though, so it doesn't deserve the hate that it gets sometimes
archon_rising ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 21:19:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Incredibly surprised to see someone who knows their shit. Centrifugal force only exists if you shift your frame of reference to inside the system, and is a logical pseudo-force rather than an actual force.
Nice!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:59:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you so surprised, anyone who's taken a mechanics course in physics would know this and reddit is full of STEM majors.
archon_rising ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:02:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't seen a lot of people know that centrifugal force doesn't actually exist, or that it only seems to exist in a different frame of reference for the problem.
Power_Donkey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:24:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold on, so if your reference is inside the system, would your centrifugal force be tension/gravity what have you, or would it be a separate force and if so why?
TheGreatFez ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:33:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The reference not only has to be inside the system but spinning with the system. Think of it as putting a camera on the center of a merry go round and one off on the side. If you are watching the feed from the camera on the merry go round, and placed a ball on the floor. It would look like the ball is being moved/accelerated away from the center for no apparent reason. The centrifugal force is used to explain the phenomenon of the ball accelerating away from the center.
However if you are watching from outside the merry go round, the ball is simply trying to follow a straight line trajectory so it naturally moves away from the center of the merry go round since it has nothing to stop it. Thus there is no force that is needed to explain its movements.
5redrb ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:42:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, that's one of the most intuitive explanations I've seen.
Power_Donkey ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:35:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah I gotcha. Thanks for the learning boss man
TheGreatFez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No problem!
fullmetaljackass ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:32:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got to see a demonstration of this at a science museum when I was a kid. They had a merry go round with benches on the edge and an open center. They split you up into two groups and one stayed outside while the other one played catch on the merry go round. Then you switched places so you could see it from the other perspective.
TheGreatFez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would love to try that, sounds like I would get dizzy haha but I bet it would show the phenomenon even better!
danielle-in-rags ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:40:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yay, my first relevant xkcd.
archon_rising ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:21:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The tension in the string provides the centripetal force, which does pull the ball inward, but the acceleration it provides is always perpendicular to the current velocity of the ball, so the resultant velocity vector is at an angle (which is why the ball moves in a circle) around the center.
You're right, I just love mechanics and wanted to chime in
TheGreatFez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the object was moving in a perfect circle, the velocity vector would be at 90 degrees from the string at all times. If you analyzed it in time steps perhaps you would come to have it be angled but instantaneously it would not be angled at anything but 90 degrees assuming a perfect circle trajectory.
archon_rising ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, you'll hear no disagreement here.
CrazyJay10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No problem, that's a much better explanation than mine! Thanks.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:24:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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CrazyJay10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps. I'm not going to fight people on it, but it is still a term I avoid using. I brought it up since it was asked about.
Purplehairpurplecar ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:04:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL and this is completely awesome
ladyoffate13 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:29:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This phrase always confused me. When I heard a guy say โWe need to go balls to the wallโ, I thought โit must be painful squishing your balls up against a wall like that, but good luck, buddy. Dry hump that wall to your heartโs content!โ
etsba78 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It confused me too & makes more sense as a technical description of an engine at work than what was previously in my head.
Some guy facing a wall, earnest look on his face, hips tilted forward, pants down..
Editted - clarity.
Vivalas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy fucks
etsba78 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I don't want to speculate on the frequency of Lady of Fate's sex life I think it reasonable to presume her gender. :)
Krasstrout ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Balls out is a related phrase
TOGSolid ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:07:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ballhead governors are still used on large diesels so the term is still pretty relevant. The fleet I work in has Woodward ballhead governors on most of its engines.
The-Most-Happy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:26:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hehe you said shaft
moleratical ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:49:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's a bad motha fu...
badass_panda ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:00:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While plausible, I find this much less likely than the jet fighter explanation; it first appears in writing with any frequency in the 1960s when jets were obtaining prominence. If it were related to steam engines, I'd expect to find it used significantly earlier.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:33:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Congrats, you are the first one here to blow my mind.
Jrook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also he's wrong. It's an aviation term
MIKEl281 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:52:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The adage โBalls to the wallโ came from the spitfire attack plane used during World War Two, the throttle head was in the shape of a ball and when the throttle was pushed fully forward the ball head of the throttle would be fully against the wall of the cockpit
GaySwans ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I drive fast my testicles are closer to the walls for the same reason, so it still works.
kissassination ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:04:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...somebody tell flula
man_with_titties ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking the dog, as a term on industrial sites for slacking off, has nothing to do with bestiality either.
Before hydraulics, heavy equipment ran off cables like the ones that still position the boom of a crane (the cable reels of a modern crane are nevertheless run by hydraulic motors).
In the old machines, when you stopped a machine, you had a lever to put a metal piece, called a dog, between the nearest cogs on the cable reel gears.
When you wanted a machine to stop operating and go into safe mode, you told the operator to dog everything. You still tell him that, but now he just shuts off the power takeoff to the hydraulics.
Now the machine is safed out, the dog's rod is inserted, you can go fuck the dog.
edit: the hand signal "dog everything" shows two hands interlocked so neither can move.
FourChannel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about balls deep?
Can that be what everyone thinks it is?
(Obviously it's a depth gauge for submarines).
(Deep submarines).
erosogol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Centri = center Fug = away, as in fugitive Pet = seek or towards, as in petition
So if the balls are swinging out - away from the shaft - itโs centrifugal.
Also, balls. Also, shaft.
FlyingBadgerBrewery ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:24:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, balls.
tue2day ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:36:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, thanks.
coreanavenger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This seems like the kind of overly elaborate explanation you give your mom when she yells at you for saying "balls to the wall."
smythbdb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was true but someone recently told me it had to do with airplane throttle levers.
Edit: it was here
5redrb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought of balls out as a combination of balls to the wall and flat out. I didn't know it was a legitimate for of balls to the wall.
Bangersss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please tell me thereโs an interesting origin for โballs deepโ.
dmetcalf808 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Marine engineer here, they call those a mechanical governor in that industry
Joefaux ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Centrifugal is right (or at least right in this context, even though it's really 'normal' force impeded by the rotating hinge mechanism. Just remember fugue is like fleeing or running away, a la fugitive. Centrifuge - away from center)
Rockonfoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell me whatever fancy facts you want but I know it means testicles goddamnit that's about the only thing I do know in this world
0xTJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me think of many CVTs
Naznarreb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No. Balls in chair. Now we get some work done."
jrsherrod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess this still applies in small motors with variators.
anachronist214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't tell AC/DC...
enclavesoldier ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you mean Accept?
anachronist214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit. I think you're right...
enclavesoldier ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. You're not too far off though. There are definitely some similarities between them
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah those steam engineers knew what they were saying.
laogoagin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
until the band "Accept" did that song. which changed its association, i guess
Headpuncher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rotating shaft" *nose-grunts*
YoTeach92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OOps. Posted a reply to the wrong person.
Tr1pline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like how you threw the word shaft in there.
TheCapedMoosesader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In familiar with fly ball governors... I never realised this is where balls to the wall came from... that's awesome.
xoites ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good, 'cause that would hurt like hell.
nickoliver86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You lost me again at rotating shaft
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought of โballs to the wallโ meaning โa lotโ.
โThe film had balls to the wall actionโ
hi-jump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So hot.
weedful_things ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never say these two phrases, but I often say "Balls deep" if I am in the middle of something. Most often it happens when I am just finishing prepping for a task at work and the boss pulls me off to do something else. I am pretty sure it is a sexual allusion.
araxhiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that Accept's song title has more sense.... LOL
(No, I haven't read the lyrics of such song, neither I'm a "relatively casual" Accept fan)
karmachameleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always assumed it meant forcing someone to the edge of the wall.
hankisamuppet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda similar: pull out all the stops, I think it refers to the stops on a pipe organ.
llewkeller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I first heard the song "Good Golly Miss Molly" many years ago, with the lyrics "You sure like to ball," I assumed it was a sexual reference. Uh no - means "party" - as in "going to the ball."
Banzai51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, they we're thinking it, the dirty old bastards.
VSandsV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I...I didn't know that. Whoa
It's centripetal btw :)
K-Black ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who works with steam engines, i am very annoyed that i didn't know this.
theghostecho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but you know they were laughing about it
TheSyllogism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next thing you're gonna tell me is that "dicks out for Harambe" has nothing to do with waving my penis around in honour of a dead gorilla.
GunnyH1GHway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Centrifugal
0x2142 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh... I shout this at people on the climbing wall when the need to keep their hips in.
HarveyBiirdman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs centripetal, centrifugal force isnโt actually a thing.
Rc41995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/balls_tothe_walls fun fact
Balls_tothe_Walls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true. But for me it means testicles still.
Jk, my name came from a Joe Dirt quote ๐
Rc41995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐
I thought it was your wild and loose approach to the raffle game back in the day!
Balls_tothe_Walls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is most certainly what it evolved into meaning lol
Rc41995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have yet to win with the patent pending balls to the walls strategy, one day it will work
Balls_tothe_Walls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like once you hit one though, you'll start hitting a lot lol. I hit like 4 main raffles in a row by buying 4-6 spots in each.
Rc41995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would really like to be at around โbreaking evenโ so I can go hard get the win and then go hard some more. Last two I bought 1/3 of the slots and loss then 3/4 of a NM and loss thus putting me in the hole a bit
Balls_tothe_Walls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oof. That's a rough one to swallow for sure. I hate that shit and losing when you easily should've had the win.
Rc41995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
agreed! especially when both of them I was gonna try for a certain number then went randoms and then the number i was thinking landed it
NetherCrevice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steam turbine governers still work this way.
FrauAway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PANTS ON FIRE
everything has to do with my testicles.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad to hear this because I always wondered what kind of sick fuck wanted to express his excitement and commitment by hitting his balls against the wall.
chainguncassidy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought balls to the wall meant destruction like a wrecking ball.
Dracofaerie2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jay Leno is well known for his steam powered machines, and gave a good explanation. Plus, visual aids!
BorrowedInk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just ruined both of these phrases for me. Also, TIL.
Spatula151 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try telling that to my manager.
cyber_rigger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
flyball governor
hogger85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a governer, as the balls spun the outward spin pulled up on a valve letting some steam escape rather than enter the pistons. This would reduce the speed, so the balls would fall allowing more steam to enter. This ensures the machine ran at a constant speed and would not get too fast and shake it's tits off or too slow and stall.
amateur_simian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There has to be a way to explain that without linking to Jay Leno.
this_guy___ ยท 11225 points ยท Posted at 15:32:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboard.
It originally referred to a barrier of wood to protect a carriage of the mud and dirt thrown up (or "dashed up") by the hooves of the horse.
Steaccy ยท 4523 points ยท Posted at 16:28:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And to go even further, we donโt just use it for cars now, but also to refer to data visualizations on a screen.
[deleted] ยท 1413 points ยท Posted at 16:39:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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shevrolet ยท 993 points ยท Posted at 17:31:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paradise by the Instrument Binnacle Light just doesn't have the same ring to it.
Frezzingale ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 21:10:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's quite the Confessional.
Beegrene ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:16:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I kind of want to hear Modest Mouse perform Instrument Binnacles on Fire.
nolotusnotes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:52:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I won't do that.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Before we go any further, do you love me? Will you love me forever?
jamesquirreljones ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:04:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I gotta know right now!
NancyGrancy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโll never forget my promise.....
wordsonascreen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:57:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the way you sing it. Try drawing out the last note, and put a run in the middle.
GaslightProphet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:05:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Binnacle confessional sounds like an obnoxious steampunk band
FreeInformation4u ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instrument Binnacle Confessional*
Big_D_Squirrels ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:53:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neither does Instrument Cluster Confessional
acolyte_to_jippity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ehhh, idk.
firesmacker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instrument Binnacle Confessional sounds cooler honestly
Its_Not_My_Problem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does if you were once a yachtsman :)
JoXand ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 17:10:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do y'all over the pond really call it that? I've been hearing 'instrument cluster' my whole life. Maybe I should hop over and see (hear) for myself.
ColonelYuri ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 19:21:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from the UK and I would say instrument panel, never heard the word binnacle before.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Disk_Mixerud ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:06:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a yank, not even 100% on how to pronounce that word...
Jimoiseau ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:04:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rhymes with pinacle. Still would never use it to describe anything in a car (am British).
try_____another ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nor I, and itโs even less accurate than calling it the dashboard.
NuklearAngel ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 20:00:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody calls it a binnacle, I'm pretty sure someone was just fucking with him.
[deleted] ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 17:30:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Samazonison ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:03:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Instrument panel" in the southwest, too. Born and raised in Arizona.
1989_Style ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:22:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Instrument cluster" would still be immediately recognizable, though. If somebody said "instrument binnacle", I would have no idea what they were talking about. Been in Arizona for several years, but I did move here from Washington.
galacticboy2009 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:21:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gauge Cluster is what I've always heard.
Gateway to the deep south, Chattanooga TN.
LazerX7 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:40:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instrument panel here in California. Never once heard Instrument cluster.
Fumple4Skin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:48:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always referred to it as either "gauge cluster" or "instrument panel".
robisodd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:04:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Michigan, too (southeast), and son of a mechanic. I've heard:
but never "instrument
bioniclebinnacle".beach_bois ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:26:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here
duckbow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:10:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Texas, checking in
"Instrument panel"
UndeadBread ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:26:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here in California. I've never heard the term "instrument cluster".
Stelvioso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call it a Dashboard in the Netherlands which is isnโt a native dutch word at all.
Cymry_Cymraeg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, never heard it in my life. I don't even know what the word 'binnacle' is supposed to mean.
flyingfences ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also heard "instrument panel" or "gauge cluster" used.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:32:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UK here...instrument binnacle?!
GeckoDeLimon ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:47:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dashboard is the thing into which the instrument cluster is mounted.
Equippedchart49 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:47:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was getting ready to say this myself. The dashboard is the entire panel that reaches from driver side to passenger side. The instrument cluster is the group of gauges and readouts for the car's status. Other things usually contained in the dashboard are the glove box (used to literally be for your gloves), the radio, and the temperature controls.
Blondude ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:53:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instrument Binnacle Confessional is my favorite band.
whenrudyardbegan ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:49:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sides are in orbit
Cuchullion ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:21:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which makes the use in the digital realm make more sense: a 'dashboard' is where you look to find the quick overview of everything you care about.
slnz ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:21:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only constant being that it still mostly consists of shit slinged by dimwitted mammals.
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:59:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call it the gauge cluster (South Carolina)
MattieShoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
instrument panel? I've never heard "cluster" used that way (west of the Atlantic)
flon_klar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:43:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fact-checked this with 8 online sources, and I was unable to find a single instance of โbinnacleโ used to mean โdashboardโ or โinstrument cluster/panel.โ As far as I could see, the word binnacle has one meaning- a standalone housing for a shipโs compass. So if the Brits are using the word as described above, itโs a well-kept secret.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:17:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the duck is a binnacle
RainbowPhoenixGirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:47:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instrument cluster sounds like a symptom... instrument binnacle sounds like the uncomfortable 17th century treatment for said symptom.
Dexaan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:03:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MFW Americans call an instrument binnicle an "instrument cluster"
Kered13 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:47:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait'll you hear what we call rooty tooty point and shooties.
KentConnor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:13:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, but irrelevant. I've also never heard anyone use either of those terms anywhere in the US.
The glove compartment and instrument panel (or gauges) are built into the dashboard.
The dashboard is just that long flat piece perpendicular to the windshield.
DoomsdayRabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your dashboard slants down?
KentConnor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where it meets the glass, yeah. It's like a hill, but much shorter after the crest
Step-Father_of_Lies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everywhere is west of the Atlantic if you go far enough.
robisodd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the Atlantic west of the Atlantic?
Strummed_Out ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The East-West Atlantic is
AdvicePerson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What'd you call me?!
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one refers to that part as the dash. The dash board is what encases it, that top piece of material that connects to the windshield.
DutchShepherdDog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't wanna sound like a classic culturally insensitive 'merican ... but if I heard someone say "instrument binnacle" I'd be hard pressed not to laugh at them
Cymry_Cymraeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, you'll never hear it.
mortiphago ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love this word
cowboydirtydan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what if I'm in the Atlantic?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:25:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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den3erw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure it's not just a barnacle?
robisodd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bionicle?
DeadMechanic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. U.S. Mechanic here. Calling it a binnacle now. Any other good ones? I am already familiar with boot and yank tank.
ben133uk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:38:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call "the hood" a bonnet. I'm not sure what else you might find interesting. The "gas pedal" is the accelerator. We spell "tire" tyre. Coupรฉ is pronounced 'coop-aye'.
Disk_Mixerud ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:20:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Accelerator" is pretty common here too. You'd usually hear "gas pedal" or just "gas" though.
"Ok, now put your right foot on the gas and your left on the brake."
"Uh, I thought you weren't supposed to do that?"
"Shut up. We only exist very temporarily to demonstrate car terminology."
"What!? No, but I have a life, and dreams, and I-"
DeadMechanic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spoopy, friendo
robisodd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mr. Burns:
ranma1_5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, it ("instrument cluster") has a better one.
thefuzzyismine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL.
PM_ME_TICKET_STUBS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I train in reporting software and am now going to call the KPIs instrument clusters.
Siorac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The English translation of what we call it in my language would be instrument wall.
darkbreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I do like the word "cluster".
Drew00013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doug DeMuro taught me instrument cluster in his ~10 minute AutoTrader ads.
NfiniteNsight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instrument Cluster Confessional.
jackwoww ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
instrument panel?
Techwood111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recall that these were all separate instruments individually mounted on the dash board.
InvalidNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my profession (auto manufacturing) we refer to it as the prndl(park, reverse, neutral, drive, low - pronounced 'prindle'
dj_sliceosome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instrument Cluster Confessional would be a slick cover band though
Wierd657 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
East of the pond says "instrument binnacle"??? That's great!
depricatedzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's a clusterfuck for sure
Lebenslust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reading all this makes me notice how big the differences between languages are when it comes to the origin of tech terms.
KingOCarrotFlowers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And these days all the stuff they throw into the console where there used to be just a radio is now the IVI system (in-vehicle infotainment)
valiantfreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sell old car parts in straya:
Dash: The metal (old cars) panel running from one side of the car to the other
Instrument Cluster: The bunch of dials
Instrument Binnacle: The hood over the Cluster
Thatmopedguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The cluster and binnacle aren't the same thing, the cluster is the collection of gauges, and the binnacle is the housing/shroud around them. Your instrument cluster is housed within the instrument binnacle. Unless you have a hud... Lol
mankiller27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always heard it called the "gauge cluster."
wannasrt4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Service manuals call it this, but how many people actually read those things? ๐
MyTrueIdiotSelf990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From America, never heard "instrument cluster", but I've heard it referred to as "instrument panel" many times.
fishbiscuit13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For those losing it on binnacle, it's astoundingly a real thing, it's the small pillar with navigation instruments (compass, timer for speed, etc) on traditional ships.
lhnl ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:40:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But this makes sense - at my job, whenever our clients use the reporting dashboards that were created for them they always complain about the heaping load of horseshit in front of them.
Flamburghur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have clients that use something you made for them? Ours like to change the scope without telling us and then complain that it's not to their liking.
MoHashAli ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:02:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboard.
It refers to a barrier to protect a user from overwhelming data being thrown up (or "dashed up") by the back end system.
zonules_of_zinn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:55:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HUD.
KoshofosizENT ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:23:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, it's always been HUD to me. These kids and their new-age terms
WiglyWorm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:04:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a developer, let me tell you that "dashboard" in the archaic sense is totally accurate.
Dread314r8Bob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:53:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, to protect against shitposting.
yepthatguy2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which isn't really a 'screen' any more, anyway.
letuswatchtvinpeace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My company is coming out with a new product and they are constantly throwing around the terms "dashboard" and "the cloud". They sound like a bunch of morons. Director asked me once if I thought the new product was innovating - I welcomed him to the 21st century.
seancurry1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't wait to see how far this goes.
"Dashboards" are currently where all the information is on your car, because that's where the literal "dash board" was on carriages.
It's come to mean where all your information is, and it's what we call that area on a computer. At the very least, there's usually some kind of visual representation of a console or board for all this information to be put on there.
What happens when we get to a point when our "computers" are just AR heads up displays that get layered over our vision? Will we call the place all the information is kept the "dashboard" then, even though there'll be no physical item housing the info anymore?
When that information stops being visual and just becomes mental information our brains just have access to, will it become synonymous with the part of our ... "mindspace" for lack of a better word ... where we keep all info about our current position in space and time?
How we navigate information is absolutely bonkers.
Apuesto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a screen dashboard is also keeping a bunch of muddy, cruddy code away from the user.
PM_ME_YOUR_PROOFS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this is a multiteired one. You have to understand how the technology evolved to understand the word came to mean what it did.
Galaxy_Ranger_Bob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is also "firewall." The fire retardant wall separating the dangerously hot engine from the driver of a car.
Then, of course, there is the word "car" itself. It's a shortened form of "automobile carriage."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, the brick walls between old townhouses/rowhomes. Usually if a whole block of them burns down, it's because people built an extension the houses but not the firewalls.
SlightlyLessHairyApe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, those are also mostly horseshoe.
Inigomntoya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This protects you from the flying horse crapโ is still relevant.
MrWeirdoFace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now the same thing in VR as Oculus Dash comes out tomorrow in beta form.
el_f3n1x187 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is still the firewall or heatwall behind the engine,to shield.the.cabin from the engine heat.
camo750 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids these days don't even know it was responsible for the murder of Princess Diana anymore.
idlevalley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or your favorites on reddit.
ChefGuapo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean like Tableau?
JohnnyMnemo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And obviously โtrunkโ used to refer to an actual trunk luggage that was strapped to a vehicle.
Although I wonder if glove box is just a marketing term.
distant_stations ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glovebox comes from a time when people wore driving gloves. The glovebox was a convenient place to store them.
Warden_Ryker ยท 613 points ยท Posted at 16:24:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL the dashboard on my car was originally designed to stop the horses up front kicking up literal shit into my face.
goldanred ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 17:06:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your car doesn't have a lot of horsepower, you don't need a dashboard.
obi1kenobi1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:47:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sort of. The "dashboard" on early cars and carriages was more like the slanted part of your car's floor where the pedals are, the "instrument panel" part that we call the dash nowadays didn't come until later on. Here's a picture of the Curved Dash Oldsmobile, named for its unusually sleek curved dashboard, and you can see it doesn't even come up to the driver's knees and had no instruments mounted to it.
I'm really not sure how the modern usage came about. Very soon after these first "runabouts" were popularized the modern layout with a full instrument panel and hood came along, but somehow the term mutated to mean the thing that sits in front of you rather than the part of the floor by your feet.
Edit: It just occurred to me that there's a much more straightforward way of saying that: what they called the dashboard back then would be called the firewall today, behind and usually below what we now consider the dashboard.
Shakemyears ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:30:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't you notice the lack of shit being kicked into your face by horses? If so, it's clearly working.
Razzler1973 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:43:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And has a horse ever done that?
Nope! See, it works
XPlatform ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean you've got a huge herd of horses up front...
sovamind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well the steel panels used in vehicles today have a similar purpose to keep any heat or a fire from coming into the cabin. They are known as "firewalls" in the automotive industry. They are also often built with other materials to dampen and isolate engine noise too.
llewkeller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And computer systems now have "dashboards." They've got to find a way to keep those horses out of IT departments and office buildings!
Apatharas ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:42:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then the Glove Box. No one has riding gloves in their car.
firelock_ny ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:10:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually keep a pair of driving gloves in mine. My fingers get cold.
Beegrene ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:17:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried doing that, but then the gloves themselves got cold sitting in my car all night.
defiance131 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haaaaaaaaave you met Ted?
sweetcuppingcakes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:20:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The glove compartment isn't accurately named, and everybody knows it.
Only_random_lyrics ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:01:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so I'm proposing a swift, orderly change
NissanSkylineGT-R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pffffff speak for yourself!
leaky_wand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Japan the glove box is often called the dashboard. I can't even tell who is wrong.
Ldub52 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:10:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And โrollโ down the window while weโre talking about cars.
TalkToTheGirl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:41:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My car still has hand crank windows, though. The last place I wotked had trucks from 2015 with manual windows - there still out there in brand new cars.
billbucket ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:55:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They mean the windows were just flaps of fabric or leather. They literally rolled up or down.
TalkToTheGirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, like an 80s Jeep. Gotcha.
thesdo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:59:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the "trunk" of a car. Literally it used to mean a trunk (box) strapped to the back of the car.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunk_(car)
JustRuss79 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:12:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sooo... where did Boot come from then?
soothinglyderanged ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goofy Brits
wordserious ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about firewall? It still means the fire barrier between the engine and the people in a car.
Hannibal_Horpse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it is from a time before seat belts, but not for the reason I thought...
compwiz1202 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And turnpike was once literally soldiers with pikes stopping people from freely using the paid roads.
Revandude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the game where we "call shotgun" to claim the passenger seat refers to when banks used to transfer money on a carriage and the man sitting on the passenger side had a shotgun to protect the banks property.
Finfunfin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dashboard is melted but we still have the radio.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mud guard?
klousGT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the closest we have on a modern automobile would be the Windscreen or the WheelWell liner?
cindyscrazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, the glove box. When was the last time you put actual gloves in the glove box?
_7POP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboard. Good one!
I will think of the original use of the word next time I create a dashboard at work.
It hasnโt really changed much I guess. Itโs still basically a thing to catch all the muddy information โdashedโ up by the system, so people can view it more clearly.
Ozelotty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny thing: In germany the part above the wheels is called "Kotflรผgel" which literally translates to "poopwing". It was named because of it's purpose to keep the horse dung being flung up by the wheels of the carriage.
Chaff5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of things about a car are old common terminology that doesn't apply anymore. Glove box in a world where almost nobody uses it to store gloves. The trunk was an actual trunk..
Mdumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment
DonnaGail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I just posted this!
LordBrandon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it was the board onto which your brains were dashed, in case of a high speed collision.
SaraBayou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't the glove box literally where the driver of the horse-drawn carriage kept his gloves?
Only_random_lyrics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also see: horsepower
Adgit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now it's used for cars and another name for the home screen on Xbox, lol
Noshamina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like you could argue it's still used in the exact same way and still has the same function. Just change your horse for an engine and feet for wheels and the dashboard stops all that road debris from hitting you.
riverturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow I like this one. I'm a car guy and it never even occurred to me why it's called that.
DuncanIdahoTaterTots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs a weird bit of synchronicity. I was in a drive-thru absently wondering why itโs called a โdashboardโ literally two hours ago. Thanks, man!
-Dys- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And in that dashboard, you have the jockybox.
ExtraAnchovies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same for glovebox. When many vehicles were open aired you had to have gloves handy to keep your hands from freezing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this why the reindeer is named dasher? Because heโs at the back and dashed up shit into Santa?
Bubba_Gump_Shrimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing with tailgate! The gate behind the horses tails.
civex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People wore spatterdashes on their shoes to protect them from spatter during wet times. The name got shortened to spats.
GarrisonFjord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I too saw that TIL the other day.
TheFirstEldanPrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the glove box used to be a place to put the gloves they wore when holding the reins. There used to be an actual trunk they'd put things in the back. Floorboard.. etc, not much has changed about the names haha..
motorusti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
firewall. keeps the heat of the motor from the passengers.
skarro- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling shotgun was the man protecting the carriage beside the driver.
Anon_Logic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now dashboards are things every manager thinks you need a million of because the next dashboard somehow is going to fix shit and not be yet another bloated convoluted piece of garbage literally no one but management and the devs ever fucking look at.
WarGrizzly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboard confessional has a lot clearer meaning to me now
somewhat_random ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "fenders" on a car are the front or rear corners - it comes from the location on a ship where a guy with a pole would stand to "fend off" the dock.
DontOpenTilXmas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. This one is really interesting.
Dotjiff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So frustrating hearing the older people at work refer to the UI as "my dashboard"
A_Fabulous_Gay_Deer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
relevant username ๐
Kyoj1n ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:32:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh snap!
Dashing through the snow.
But wait is that the same dash as in to run quickly?
*an additional Oh snap, I swear I've heard dash used to refer to a body being thrown on the ground or something. Like "his body was thrown out of the car dashed onto the road".
bob_in_the_west ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So Dasher is the last reindeer in the sleigh?
DoomsdayRabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Santa names them from back left toward the front, then from the front right toward the back.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashing through the snow!
Edzell_Blue ยท 12912 points ยท Posted at 16:05:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The English language is full of nautical terminology from the age of sail like leeway, skyscraper or listless.
Whind_Soull ยท 23971 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I posted this comment a while back, and it seems relevant here...
Ships used to have their rudders afixed to the right side, and this was the side they steered from. 'Starboard' is a corruption of 'steorbord' or 'steer-board.' In fact, the word 'steer' comes from the Old Norse 'stรฝri' meaning rudder.
When pulling into port, ships approached with the land on their left side to avoid damaging the rudder. This is why that side is called 'port side.' It was originally called 'larboard,' derived from 'load-board' (the side you load cargo on), but they decided that the term sounded too similar to 'starboard' and changed it.
When two ships crossed paths, the one on the right side had the right-of-way (hence the name). Since ships often passed in the dark of night, they needed a way to determine the location and orientation of other vessels. So, they afixed a red light to left (port) side and a green light to the right (starboard) side.
If the red light of the other ship was visible, it meant that their left side was facing you, thus they were on the right, and that you should yield to them. If their green light was visible, then you were the one with the right-of-way. This is where we get our modern traffic signal colors: red means stop and green means go. This same color system is still used today on aircraft--look next time you see one fly over at night
[1].If you have trouble keeping it all straight, remember that port wine is red, and that there's never any left in the morning. Incidentally, port wine is named after the Portuguese seaport city of Porto, from which it was originally exported. All three of those uses of port that I just boldfaced are derived from the Latin word 'portus' meaning 'harbor.'
Of course, port wine isn't the alcoholic beverage most closely tied to the sea. For that honor, look to akvavit (sometimes called 'aquavit' in English-speaking countries). The name is derived from the Latin aqua vitae meaning 'water of life.' Norwegians produce a particularly unique variety, called Linie Aquavits. It was traditionally put in barrels and strapped to the sides of ships for transport. This exposure to the sea gives it a unique briny flavor. Today, they still send it to Australia and back just to give it that flavor.
As long as we're hanging out at the water level on the side of an old ship, here's an interesting fact about the phrase, "there's the devil to pay." On old ships, they made them water-tight by caulking the cracks with oakum--a mixture of plant fiber and pitch. Caulking a seam in the boards was known as 'paying' the seam. The lowest seam--the one right over the water--was the most dangerous. Sailors had to hang off the side of the ship from ropes, and when they got right down to the water, there was a chance of being swept off. For this reason, the lowest seam was known as the Devil's seam. It it was your job to caulk it, then there was "the devil to pay."
As much as I'd like to say that's the origin of the phrase, it's not. The first use predates nautical terms by a century; sailors just lifted the term and reused it. The degree to which it was contrived is unknown.
However, a phrase that does have true nautical origins is "three sheets to the wind," referring to a drunk person. While you might think that 'sheet' refers to a sail, it actually refers to ropes. Three of these restrained the sails on a fully-masted large ship. If all three were loose, the sails were fully in the wind, and the ship haphazardly rolled around, like a drunk person does while walking down the sidewalk.
Similarly, the bottom corner of a sail is called the 'foot.' If the foot is let loose, the sail dances around in the wind. It's footloose!
Kevin Bacon starred in the movie Footloose, and you're probably familiar with the "six degrees of Kevin Bacon" system. The idea, in case anyone is unfamiliar, is that Kevin Bacon has been in so many things that you can classify actors by how many 'degrees removed' from Kevin Bacon they are. (e.g. Susie was in a movie with Joe, who was in a movie with Tommy, who was in a movie with Kevin Bacon...three degrees).
Less commonly-known is the 'Erdลs number,' named after mathematician Paul Erdลs. He co-authored so damn many academic papers that you can link most other authors to him by degrees.
What's really cool is that a small number of people have both been in a movie and published an academic paper, giving them a combined ErdลsโBacon number. For example, actress Natalie Portman has an ErdลsโBacon number of 7. In fact, she's quite accomplished academically. She missed the red-carpet premier of Phantom Menace to study for finals.
The surname 'Portman' is also derived from the Latin portus. A 'portman' loaded ships.
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Amberhawke6242 ยท 3693 points ยท Posted at 17:42:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow the way you bring that all back around is amazing.
HarryDresdenWizard ยท 1378 points ยท Posted at 19:16:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's turtles all the way down after all. It's all connected.
nursingsenpai ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 21:37:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turtles can swim. Swimming is commonly done in water, a type of liquid found prevalently in oceans.
The word "ocean" has historically been used to describe large bodies of water, which boats sail upon.
TheSuperlativ ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:38:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But how much does 'swim' weigh? Hey, Vsauce, Michael here
canniballibrarian ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a reference to the John Green book Turtles all the Way Down
Night_Marie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:30:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flat earth theory, actually
ArchSchnitz ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:19:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, you're a wizard. Can you make me a love potion? There's this girl...
HarryDresdenWizard ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 21:57:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the business cards. "Lost Items Found. Paranormal Investigations. Consulting. Advice. Reasonable Rates. No Love Potions, Endless Purses, Parties, or Other Entertainment".
PlebasaurusRekt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:58:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking love you. Marry me.
HarryDresdenWizard ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:59:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume you've read the books? It doesn't turn out well for people in my life. My recommendation is get a cat and one of those new phones with the dating things on them. Best of luck.
SmallishBubs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:27:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like a real wizard? Subtle and quick to anger and all that?
HarryDresdenWizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only when people try to be bigger smart asses than me.
PlebasaurusRekt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:05:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you always a smartass?
Enigmachina ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:11:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is he awake?
PlebasaurusRekt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:16:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose so, fuck. Guess I answered my own question.
dir_gHost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are complete now, you have now enabled the question answer mode most people don't even get to unlock.
PlebasaurusRekt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit. Reached that new dialogue tier in r/outside
dir_gHost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait ,what there is an outside to this place???....I thought we had to wait for the humans to die off before went outside. :P
PlebasaurusRekt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, you're a ghost. Do whatever the fuck you want.
dir_gHost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shhh don't scare the kids! :P
So do tell me are u like the plebasaur in the game ARK: survival evolved.
PlebasaurusRekt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love the plebasaur. Unfortunately tho I can't play ark as it makes me violently ill.
dir_gHost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Motion sickness or FOV settings? a friend she get similar issues playing certain games.
Side note: HAAHAH yes glad u call them that too haaha good ol plebasaur
PlebasaurusRekt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure exactly what it is. I've spent many hours tweaking settings, everything from blur to fov to monitor refresh rate.
dir_gHost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm idk maybe wearing those gaming glasses might help, they look like those yellow shooting glasses. Might be the interpretation and processing of all the vibrant colours in that game.
Do you know Dinoflask is he your cousin (if not check him out) :P
rudolfs001 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:11:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll take an endless purse please. Payment upon completion.
HarryDresdenWizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha no.
bontrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about them cubs?
No, seriously, I thought the king was gonna leave it?
HarryDresdenWizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:16:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter if he left it or not now does it? Now excuse me, you've reminded me of a horrible evening. I'm going to Mac's.
OdeToPower ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:28:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like thaumaturgy, its all about making connections.
HarryDresdenWizard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:57:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like thaumaturgy... and biology.
dwhite21787 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or like James Burke's Connections
imsometueventhisUN ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:59:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the building on fire?
Is it your fault?
HarryDresdenWizard ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:01:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do not always set buildings on fire. Only when people are trying to kill each other, or there are too many computers nearby. All in all, it's my fault about 35% tops.
lil-poptart123 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:52:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone get u/thesoundandthefury
RapterTurtle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:23:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even me.
PaleBlueHippo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a layer of elephants in there too.
Kalsifur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything is connected!
isleag07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:33:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you trying to sell a John Green novel? ๐
JimmyJoeMick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:09:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen Jesus play with flames in a lake of fire that I was standing in
infinitefoamies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's all ball bearings this days.
NancyGrancy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Said with your fake buck teeth!
Surfing_Ninjas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like poetry; it rhymes.
TheSuperlativ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Again it's like poetry, if it rhymes
TheSuperlativ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jar-jar is the key to all this
JupiterBrownbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐จโต๏ธโ๏ธ
Jo-Sef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it is all cocks in the end
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This would have flown right over my head except I talked to my friend a few hours ago. Gonna tell her about it hehe.
Arr-istocrat ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 20:36:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is like watching Tom Scott and Vsauce at the same time but also coherent
AlmostAnal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And he doesn't sound like an ass. Not Scott. Scott's fine.
Turmoil_Engage ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 20:29:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I half expected it to be the guy who talks about the Undertaker and the 18-feet-into-the-announcers-table thing.
beastlyjesus ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:54:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting this the whole time and was extremely disappointed when he didnt
Troutfucker5000 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:23:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahem sixteen feet
Rohndogg1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:35:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Troutfucker5000
fox_ontherun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:19:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I almost scrolled back up halfway through to check if it was u/shittymorph, but decided against it as I wanted to be surprised. Was still a great post though.
100dylan99 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:48:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you liked it, check out the History of English podcast. The guy basically does this for like a hundred episodes. It's wonderful.
alienattenborough ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:11:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so happy I saw your comment. Iโve been searching for a good etymology podcast for ages now!
Ser_J ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the Allusionist
5MoK3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are the episodes a good length? Always looking for new stuff to listen to at work, but I prefer longer ones.
100dylan99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they're normally about 45 min to an hour long, iirc. They might be longer.
jrhooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there was a show on history or dicscover that was decent too. Secret slang or something like that.
A lot of them I knew, but they were still interesting.
Here's an old sea service one. "Scuttlebutt".
Means rumors or word on on the street, etc.
The Navy and Marines have a habit of using sea terms, even on land. Thus why in a building you will still here porthole, bulkhead, hatch, head, deck, etc.
A "scuttle" was a big jug used to store water. The opening you pour water from was the "butt". A bunch of sailors lining up for a drink from the water jug were drinking from the scuttle butt.
Thus water fountains in a navy building are also referred to as "scuttlebutts".
Thus: office water cooler talk --> scuttlebutt
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:38:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ThatIckyGuy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:43:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reminded more of Abe Simpson's stories.
badmonkey247 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL my brother-in-law starred in "Family Guy".
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:10:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever seen the old BBC series "Connections." They basically do that for history in every single episode.
Highly recommended.
muideracht ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:24:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly what I was thinking. We've got a regular James Burke over here.
0_0_0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here: Youtube
Whind_Soull ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:13:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. :) I've always kinda gotten a kick out of doing that. Feel free to give me two specific and unrelated subjects, and I'll see if I can connect them!
youre_a_burrito_bud ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mustard Gas chemical weapons
And
The noticable prevalence of "Grey Poupon" in American hip hop lyrics.
(Also your comment was so terrific; a fantastic ride that felt so frantic)
svodiwuejkxlkadfuiop ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:06:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised no-one has taken you up on your offer yet. I'll start.
Table tennis Rule 2.06.02, which reads:
and those prolonged bouts of diarrhea that arise from spicy foods.
Good luck :P
demonballhandler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Renaissance printing and hot babes?
Darth_Draper ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:52:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back to port you mean?
PapaverDreaming ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit I love your username
Darth_Draper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! As a Star Wars fan, a Mad Men fan, and as a copywriter who favors alliteration, I found it to be quite apt.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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zoidberg_42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funnily enough, the first and second results are both posts by him.
joedl1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you liked that, please give The Etymologicon a shot! itโs a book on the origin of words, and itโs really cool because each word leads into the next in that way. the subtitle is โa circular stroll through the english languageโ
CeruleanRuin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:33 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would pick that book up on the basis of the title alone!
joedl1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:08 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
highly recommended :)
Numinak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And no Hell in the Cell mentioned at the bottom.
P0sitive_Outlook ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man he's gone off on a tangent ah no it's cool he's back to ships. :D
VerySecretCactus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As of now it's five hours old and has been gilded 6 times. Holy shit.
OneShotForAll ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:13:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u/shittymorph
WarAndGeese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Dark Souls of storytelling
youre_a_burrito_bud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And subliminally flashed another "red" reminder right after bringing port back. Love it so much
KnightHawkz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Illuminate confirmed!! Although these actually have relevance to each other...
breakone9r ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:00:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By the I started reading about Kevin Bacon, I started expecting Mankind and Undertaker...... I even scrolled back to see who the poster was.....
Not_OneOSRS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:50:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heyyy vsauce here
Carocrazy132 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:35:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk man I kinda lost track of the path around the Kevin bacon system part. I feel like when we started it was nautical terms.
Feels a bit like Batman after the footloose connection.
"Wait a minute! It happened at sea! C for cat woman!"
pm_me_ur_regret ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, when you said that, I was really helping there was Undertaker/Mankind post at the end of that, but, alas, I was disappointed.
noahboddy ยท 199 points ยท Posted at 20:30:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um . . . Are you talking about Susie Bright, who was in Bound with Joe Pantoliano, who was in U.S. Marshals with Tommy Lee Jones, who was in JFK with Kevin Bacon?
Or was that just a coincidence?
Whind_Soull ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 20:34:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow. No, that was just coincidence.
MyGfisaHappyGirl ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:18:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woh shit!!!!! The best coincidence!!!!!
ste3eve ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:47:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nevertellmetheodds
jimboblol ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:29:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is also the closest she gets. I used an online calculator and got 3, but with different movies.
Spoonshape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:26 on December 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well as every actor is supposedly within 6 degrees of Bacon it's not an exactly stunning coincidence....
umrguy42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:00 on January 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I remember once seeing a study that some university types did, oh, a little over a decade ago or so now, that if you used the concept of the "Bacon number" for all actors, and looked to find who had the lowest average number (i.e., the true "center" as it were), Kevin Bacon was actually (at least at the time) outside the top 1000 lowest averages. I forget who was #1, but it was somebody fairly big like John Wayne.
ProfessorWhimsy ยท 3942 points ยท Posted at 18:11:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was terrific! But I confess that the longer it got, the more I worried this was /u/shittymorph.
Evil_Dick_Turder ยท 370 points ยท Posted at 20:10:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I started reading about Kevin Bacon I thought, โthis is an f-in jokeโ, and checked the username.
Kaerell9 ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 23:24:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let it be said that no man bamboozles Evil_Dick_Turder into reading more than 10 paragraphs!
Evil_Dick_Turder ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:03:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha! I live by the motto: โFool me ten times, shame on... shame on you. Fool me... you canโt get fooled again!โ
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:54:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im still not sure if this is a joke or not, but honestly I dont care. It was a nice ride
HeroOfTime_99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly when I checked too lol
margotgo ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:49:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Partway through the meaning of colored lights I started to get that old feeling of "this is too cool and informative to be true" quick scroll to end okay this is all completely true.
Textual_Aberration ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 19:16:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All great lectures should end that way. Imagine the most historically moving speeches each coming to a glorious crescendo with that infamous line.
Maybe Abraham Lincoln's forgotten speech that was so good that nobody wrote it down ended with it, bewildering all in attendance including a row of time travelers in the back of the crowd.
DrFaulkner ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 20:37:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here back in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hะตll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table." - Abraham Lincoln, probably
Textual_Aberration ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:33:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
~ From the logbooks of Traveler Perri, ca. 2843 and 1863.
~ From the logbooks of Traveler Abraham, ca. 3146 and 1863.
lonefeather ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:38:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this from something? Or off the cuff? Either way, where can I get more?
Textual_Aberration ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:11:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From scratch; I had a lot of work to avoid. Technically it can still happen, we'll just have to wait a few hundred years to observe it for the second first time and a few hundred more to set it in motion.
As far as further reading goes, the only time traveling book series I've read from are "The Chronicles of St. Mary's" ("The Very First Damned Thing", "Just One Damned Thing After Another", etc.) and "Oxford Time Travel" ("Doomsday Book", "To Say Nothing of the Dog", etc.). They may not be exactly what you're craving but it's the best I can do.
Or you could post a time traveling theme on the writing prompts sub to see what people come up with.
lonefeather ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that was fantastic, and I hope your work involves writing (or if it doesn't, I hope you consider picking it up!) because you're damn good at it.
notfixedbrakeit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:56 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, my dude. That made my night!
homergonerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/-emFOUHuCYE
ThatMortalGuy ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:26:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just skip to the end and look for the undertaker joke and if it isn't there then I go back to the beginning and read it knowing I'm safe.
SdBolts4 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:52:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of the more recent ones I've seen he adds a paragraph after it to throw you off. I've checked the end and still gotten got
ThatMortalGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta tag him with RES and put a bright pink background on his name, nowadays he only gets me when I'm on mobil
SdBolts4 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:27:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more fun trying to spot them just from the text imo, makes the ones he manages to get me funnier
JubJubWantRubRub ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:40:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was going to be like one of those stories my grandfather used to tell where it was very long and intricate and then at the very end say "I just made all that up, but it made for a great story didn't it?"
crunchthenumbers01 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:09:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Afraid it would morph into Vargas
never0101 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:37:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You misspelled "hoped"
boomerangotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or bozarking
IAmANobodyAMA ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:22:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then Natalie Portman said โI need about tree fiddyโ.
Well it was about this time I noticed that Natalie Portman was about 8 stories tall and was a crustacean from the protozoic era!
dpistachio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is the best part about being a nobody?
IAmANobodyAMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Cyclops can never find me.
dpistachio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lucky. Hate that guy.
6ftspruce ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:32:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MarkBeeblebrox ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:50:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is going to be some great r/prequelmemes copypasta
SurturOfMuspelheim ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 19:59:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, worried I'd have to add another downvote to the list next to his name.
Lord_Voltan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quit posting and go fight Frej already.
SurturOfMuspelheim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Frej is dead. Ragnarok already happened, this is the new world. I transformed into a human.
Lord_Voltan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I heard from three reliable sources his whole antler thing didn't work out to well. Good on ya' though!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:42:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I scrolled up to check, then down to make sure it wasn't a copy cat and I was about to be asked to give a mythological creature three dollars and fifty cents.
Deathbyceiling ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:06:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was half expecting /u/_vargas_ myself
Kim_Jong_OON ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:23:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'll be gore if it's vargas.
6chan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I expected it to end with "all of this was bullshit"
nahfoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's always shorter than that
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking /u/vargas at about halfway in. I had to scroll up to check the username
Fuck-Yo-Couch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:23:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I was in the same boat. I started reading about Kevin Bacon and I stopped to say this better not be shittymorph. I was too enticed to look back up because part of me wished it was.
tdeasyweb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I started reading then got worried then scrolled to the end. Then I saw it wasn't a /u/shittymorph comment. Then I was thinking of commenting on that and scrolled down to see if someone else had already done so, and found your comment. Now I don't care enough about the original comment to go back and read it.
I wonder who else has been on the same, wondrous journey.
curtdammit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:52:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did it too; the entire time I was reading it I kept remembering back to nineteen ninety eight, when the undertaker threw mankind off hะตll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
Roxxorursoxxors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made it all the way to the section about port wine from Portugal before I checked the username.
Skrappyross ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was fully expecting to walk the dinosaur.
DextrosKnight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped twice to scroll back up and make sure it wasn't him.
elpajaroquemamais ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He has a sweet spot. This one was too long.
umagrandepilinha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got really confused by your comment because in my phone it appears like this: [https://imgur.com/a/o6Kjl](like this.)
hrtfthmttr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The key was all the gold. As much as everyone love-hates shittymorph, he never gets the gold.
meghonsolozar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking vargas
Willyjwade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly once we got to Kevin Bacon I assumed we were going straight to hell in the cell by connecting bacon to Cena then Cena to undertaker and then straight to him throwing mankind of the cell but it didn't happen and now I'm sad.
Edit, the rich would probably work better than Cena because he was in the right era and has been in more movies
jebuz23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought the same thing halfway through and went to check the username!
QuarkyIndividual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He does it well enough that by the time you would start thinking that he'd've already gotten you
ITDad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly my thought! I thought he was really getting invested in this one, but Iโve forced myself not to check the name if Iโm ever suspicious. His comments are good, so he deserved to catch me. Ok ok with that.
plasmaspaz37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got to the second paragraph before checking too.
jjconstantine ยท 1290 points ยท Posted at 18:55:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you VSauce?
Little-Helper ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 21:06:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heyyy
Blazing_Shade ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 22:05:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vsauce
walterpeck1 ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 22:10:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Michael here.
ancistrus84 ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 22:24:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what is here?
Blazing_Shade ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 22:32:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And when will it end?!?
flekkie ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 22:46:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if ending รฉnds something, when has something really endรฉd?
Jordaneer ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:04:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/redditwritesvsauce
imarrangingmatches ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:19:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/ofcoursethatsathing
NotThatEasily ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:44:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been happier to find an obscure subreddit.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:14:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But before we get into that, we should start somewhere simple...
Or should we?
[Vsauce music]
ukemi- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, one of my favourite things to do is...
Crackdiver ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:47:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or will it..?
PendragonTheNinja ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:27:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time is important, and I am a clock.
scoops22 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:51:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jordaneer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:04:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/redditwritesvsauce
Pokemoneuro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/ofcoursethatsathing
Tokkemon ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 21:44:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably Dirk from Verblistablium.
SleepyHarry ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:12:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you got his name wrong - it's Drake from Vertigo Asylum.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:11:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Duke from the Vatican?
dupsmckracken ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:47:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Enough with your Timfoolery!
MrWeirdoFace ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 21:09:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vsauce is more of an ideal than a person. We can all be Vsauce! Let's get Vsaustic!
PoopNoodlez ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:41:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm sorry ma'am but I believe your son may be on the Vsaustistic spectrum"
Canvaverbalist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No ketchup. Vsauce.
Cassandra_Complex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh... I'm already deep in my cups, i should go binge watch that channel and get Vsauced.
bardwithoutasong ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:53:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vsauce? You mean the guy that moved his content to YouTube Red so it can't be watched by the rest of the world?
Skithiryx ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:53:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only the Youtube Red series Mind Field. He still posts other videos.
Youtube gives creators grants to make content thatโs specifically made to be Youtube Red exclusive. I canโt really fault him for taking advantage of that.
shrekinator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird. I can still watch his videos, mate.
bardwithoutasong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:28 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YouTube Red is only available in:
shrekinator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:39 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, on regular YouTube. I'm not from any of those countries.
bardwithoutasong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:18 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I realize now I've been a bit vague there - I assumed everyone kinda knew he started producing a show on YouTube Red which is why his content on the regular channel slowed down drastically. It's not that I wouldn't pay to watch stuff - I totally would but I can't even do that. I have a further explanation in another comment but basically I'm just disappointed as a lot of kids here used to watch VSauce when it was more regular and now they're just back to mobile games and Twitch - trends need constant work to stay relevant. Not that he owes anyone anything, but he started something quite grand and watching it fizzle out in terms of interest is kinda saddening. As a non-Muslim in a officially Muslim country, having my friend's kids or nephews/nieces quietly pull me aside to ask me about VSauce Michael almost completely changed my perspective on where this country was heading. For awhile, at least.
jjconstantine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's only 8 videos that are red exclusive but they're also more like a TV show than his typical videos and definitely worth getting a free trial of red to watch. Very quality stuff (as is expected from VSauce.)
bardwithoutasong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:28:44 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I'm just a bit disappointed as his content has almost come to a halt and I'm not sure he really knows how far reaching his show is - I live in a Muslim country that's become increasingly conservative over the past few decades and the amount of kids that started watching VSauce when he first came about was legitimately impressive. We don't even have a functioning science center here for children to expose themselves to that type of information (a recent survey found that more than 50% of high school teachers didn't even have a high school certificate themselves).
By comparison when I was still in school my peers were the type to get their parents to appeal to the school to skip the chapter of evolutionary theory in the textbook as it offended them too much. And they skipped it. And yeah you read that right - it was the kids that felt offended and got their parents involved. But now those same peers have kids of their own and try as they do to keep them in the local curriculum you can't fight technology, and honestly it was VSauce by itself that started this magnificent trend among those children today where they legitimately thought learning stuff is actually fun and entertaining. With that being said, children are children and when something slows down they move on to other things - now I see a lot of those same kids playing p2w mobile games when they used to be glued to YouTube. I guess for a moment I had hope for this country, but you can't make a good broth without a good long simmer - a short blast of heat isn't gonna even make soup. There's just something about his format that works in the way we were totally glued to Bill Nye; these kids are totally glued to VSauce Michael.
dcnairb ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:01:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vsauce... Sauce... Tomatoes.
Tomatoes are often called vegetables, but are actually considered fruits, not vegetables.
Vegetables... Tables... Microsoft Excel is the most used program....
thesirhc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:29:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would watch Michael read that comment.
Crespyl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:31:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or James Burke?
Dlrlcktd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But ships ship cargo..... and cats have hormonal glands on their face, so are we real?
VoltaireChimera ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:05:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what is "here", and how much does it weigh?
ShadyKiller_ed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:41:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DAMN IT! My first thought when finishing it was "This read like a Vsauce video. I should comment that." And what do I see? Someone thought of it!
nwL_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs exactly what I thought while reading.
yeah, and so on.
allie-the-cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My thoughts exactly.
TehRealMrGoogles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read this in Michaelโs voice. Was not disappointed.
Glitsh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:28:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was a better read/listen than like...any Vsauce IMO
BoodGurger ยท 1218 points ยท Posted at 19:12:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I understand what my ADHD sounds like when I talk to people.
Obscu ยท 295 points ยท Posted at 21:21:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely fascinating?
Vousie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yupp.
rhynoplaz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:37:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, I tuned out after the third sentence.
thtgyovrthr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:18:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good. more awesome for the rest of us!
AtomicChocolate ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:15:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Opposite Day, yes.
jojobonobo ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 22:17:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine this level of enthusiasm, but all I talk about is Death Metal and History facts, that's me in a nutshell
RogueLotus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:29:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds fantastic.
VikingDad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:33:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like those things
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:50:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me about the Black Metal War of the 90s between Norway and Sweden. It's been forever since I read about it that I don't remember much anymore except one drummer (I think) murdered a member of a rival band and made a necklace of his teeth.
jojobonobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, that's a long story, and I wouldn't know whose version to tell. If I recall, Varg Vikernes wrote his own account of what happened the day he murdered Oystein Aarseth, but who knows how seriously you can take him, and the documentary "Until the light takes us" tries to tell the other side but its veracity is debatable as well. But yea, the rumor is that before he was murdered, Oystein Aarseth, or Euronymous, found the body of Mayhem's singer, Per Ohlin, after he commit suicide by shotgun, and made a necklace from the skull fragments he collected. Ohlin, who went by the stage name "Dead" likely suffered from Cotard Delusion, the most fitting disorder for a member of a metal band.
1ns3rt_n4m3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you explain to me why Black Metal and White Metal are basically the same thing?
a_bi_polarbear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Subscribe.
PapaverDreaming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Ian Christe?
jojobonobo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:33:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but I should take his path and monetize my skills.
MyParentsAre_Cousins ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 21:31:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if it was like mine I would have either completely stopped talking mid sentence or I would have lost track entirely.
maranble14 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah so if you'll take a look at the figure on page three you can see that the quarterly earnings have.... Oh is that a dog out there?"
ninjaclone ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:08:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is me but with cats
youre_a_burrito_bud ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:29:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah so if you'll take a look at the figure on page three you can see that I have ranked images of kittens from innocent butternups to sassy royalty .... Oh is that a dog out there?"
EdenianRushF212 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely.
MyParentsAre_Cousins ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:00:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except I won't even mention the dog. I'll just look at it, thinking about it and never acknowledge it. Then I forget what I was talking about or that I was even talking.
pumpkinrum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like me.
sharkbaitzero ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:52:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly how stories I tell sound. Tangent after related tangent, for hours if Iโve been drinking. But it always makes its way back to the start to remind everyone why what Iโve been blathering about for the past hour is relevant.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool
RainbowEffingDash ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:04:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats absolutely nothing. For me, it would be something like: Ships used to have rudders fixed to their right side, oh I forgot to mention -----
Recr3tional ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:58:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel personally attacked by this relatable content
KinglyWeevil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me it's that we're going to get to the conversational destination, but we're going to take every side road detour of explanation before coming back to the main road to continue.
Headpuncher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like made up shit and wrong information?
Knappsterbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is much less charming in person
JupiterBrownbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Asperger's...
RonnyMohtar ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
kek
Triquetra4715 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 18:52:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To your aqua vitae point, the term whiskey comes from the Irish for water of life, uisce beatha.
faraway_hotel ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:40:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correspondingly, there is French eau de vie (a kind of fruit brandy), and there's at least a chance that it played into vodka (a diminutive form of 'voda', water) as well.
And for anyone who has read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and remembers the joke about most cultures in the galaxy having a drink with a name that's pronounced "gin and tonic", this is where that comes from.
AlbertR7 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:45:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does the pronunciation of gin and tonic mean?
faraway_hotel ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:57:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the opposite of the real-world thing where these different words and phrases have the same meaning of "water of life".
Instead, there's "jynnan tonyx", "gee-N'N-T'N-ix", "jinond-o-nicks", "chinanto/mnigs", "'tzjin-anthony-ks", and so on, drinks that vary from tepid water to stuff that 'kills cows at a hundred paces'... but the names all sound like "gin and tonics" does in English.
As to why Adams picked gin and tonic in particular, no idea.
Warhawk137 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:27:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He made the choice that any true Englishman would.
Blaizey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:58:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is an any true Englishman the opposite of a no true Scotsman?
zopiac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:10:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel as though they're closer to synonyms, because any true Englishman is no true Scotsman.
Belazriel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:30:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And can bring a corpse back to life if properly spilled over them.
Ginger-saurus-rex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thunderin' jaysus, d'ya think I'm dead?
Triquetra4715 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanum an dhul, do you think Iโm dead?
[deleted] ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 17:55:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are ya, some kind of walking nautical encyclopedia?
Durgulach ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 18:21:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give me a word, annnny word, and I show you how that word is greek
oh_look_a_fist ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 18:55:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OCTOPODES, YOU IGNORANT SLOB!
Piogre ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:57:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Octopodes nuts
ImTheTechn0mancer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:27:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dwight, you ignorant slut.
Ethanlac ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:34:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Circlejerk"
turmacar ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:42:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sushi
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:55:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thing
Hamsternuts98 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:29:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kimono
Durgulach ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:33:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kimono, kimono, kimono. Ha! Of course! Kimono is come from the Greek word himona, is mean winter. So, what do you wear in the wintertime to stay warm? A robe. You see: robe, kimono. There you go!
BattleAnus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Durgulach
sushisection ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Douchebagel
nursingsenpai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dakimakura
bumblebritches57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"dank meme"
zander_2 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 19:42:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very interesting! Quick pedantic note, it isn't technically the ship 'on the right' that has the right of way. It has to do with the direction the wind is coming from. If the wind is blowing from starboard, you are said to be on a 'starboard tack', and similarly for 'port tack'. If two vessels are approaching each other head-on, the one on a starboard tack will have right of way. If they are approaching each other on near-parallel courses, the vessel downwind (leeward) has right-of-way, since the windward boat is basically spoiling the airflow for the leeward boat and making life more difficult for them.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:39:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THANK YOU! I could not make that make sense in my head. Iโm sitting at a (not crowded) bar, and started pushing my wallet and phone around one another on the bar other to help myself visualize how ships passing didnโt both have their port (or starboard) sides facing one another simultaneously.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-- STARBOOOOOOOARD! MY WATER!
-- Tacking!
natepiercy ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 17:54:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
10/10 read.
AltForMyRealOpinion ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:43:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just remember that 'port' is the shorter word compared to 'starboard' just like 'left' is the shorter word compared to 'right'.
If I hear "It's on the port side!", I do a quick unconscious mental check: "Port is the shorter word, and so is left. It's on the left side!"
sir_mrej ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:11:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Port has four letters. So does left. Easy
fivezero_ca ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:52:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I go by alphabetical order, reading from left to right.
MxReLoaDed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got it down by remembering starboard, because stars come out at night, and night rhymes with right.
CheekyMunky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even further: port, left, and red are all shorter than their starboard/right/green counterparts.
TheBellBrah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of port, left, red... when I was getting my boating license, the instructor told us a story of a man named Red and a dog named Port.
One day, Red returned to his boat where Port stayed. He wasn't there. Port left Red.
AltForMyRealOpinion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice!
xorcon1 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:22:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't the word 'right' already have it's own meaning? I.e. "This is my God-given right"
OK_Soda ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:36:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah unfortunately a couple of these seem like folk etymologies. Right of way obviously just means the right to pass, "footloose" refers to feet that are loose,
just_play_one_on_tv ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:46:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well...shit.
Thanks for the lesson!
ritmusic2k ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:45:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Loosely related, and since you did some nice origination research: I'll point out that Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon is itself was jokingly created due to its phonetic similarity to the actual concept of Six Degrees of Separation, which claims that any two humans on earth can be linked within six steps.
Vaulter1 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 18:29:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great writeup
Or you could remember the phrase "Red lights are left in port" which hints at the red-light districts sailors only got to visit when their ships were in port.
krawnight ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:48:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The simple way I learned it in the Navy is green and right have more letters than red and left.
SirNoName ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:20:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Red right returning
robisodd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It goes even one further:
have more letters than
TheChance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Red right returning ---> red = dock = port ----> if you've just left port, the port buoy is on the port side, the left
howdoiland ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:05:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My flight instructor gave me another way to remember this: Communists are Leftists and are usually represented by the color red.
guaranic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except republicans are also represented by red now too.
ClassyPigeon234 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:18:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey VSauce! u/Whind_Soull here.
mruehle ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:45:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Re: โthe devil to payโ Also related, โbetween the devil and the deep blue seaโ is an expression for being in a tight spot.
anormalgeek ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:06:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...go on.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:12:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do you know why fire engines are red? Why, let me tell you...
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:56:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cuz da red wunz go fasta!
RainyRat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/UnexpectedWH40K
floatingwithobrien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why am I afraid of bears, you ask?
GroovingPict ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:40:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still called Styrbord in Norwegian :) (and Babord for the other side)
Oh and Linie Aquavit is called that because it crosses the line of the equator (Linie meaning Line)
SadCena ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:20:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was expecting the undertaker to throw mankind off the crow's nest or something
BakerStreetMassacre ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:28:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mum taught me this; Port has four letters as does the word Left.
brilliantlyInsane ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:29:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Michael from VSauce?
karboy101 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:40:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like you're vsauce. Just a tiny bit.
icanfly_impilot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:31:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good god, man! I like it, thanks! Lol
weatherseed ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:00:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was a hell of a journey.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:33:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Whind_Soull ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:37:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When they're at 90-degree angles to each other. If there's a ship at 6 o'clock and a ship at 3 o'clock, then the 3 o'clock ship has nothing "to its right."
It works like a four-way stop intersection.
The_Slad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:13:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well i have question that you might know the answer to.
I was once told that the origin of the word "posh" was an anagram for "port over, starboard home", referring to europeans vacationing to america. Port on the way over and starboard on the way home would give you a sunrise and sunset views bothways and so those tickets were more expensive. Is that true?
SuspectedApollo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:50:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way I've heard it is Europeans travelling around Africa, so that they would have view of the coast rather than the ocean. However, looking for a source it seems like that's not true
Whind_Soull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly, someone asked the exact same question when I originally wrote that comment 2 years ago. Here's a link to the Snope's article about it.
i-o_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:08:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a folk etymology. "Right of way" refers to a legal right, not the direction.
Black-Muse ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:44:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/bestof
behv ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:10:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โVSauce! Michael here!โ
redrosebluesky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what the fuck did i just read
wine-o-saur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of your jib.
notdonothing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For those interested, this reads (to me) very much like a book by
Mark Forsyth called Etymologicon.
Noble_Flatulence ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By and Large should be added to your spiel. Also, I slightly suspect you're Vsauce Michael.
noejoke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another alcohol that gets its name from aqua vitae is actually whiskey! It was translated to Old Irish as "uisce beatha" which also means "water of life"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uisce_beatha
Baranyk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:34:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LINES you landlubber!
Whind_Soull ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:47:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gah, I know, I know... I was simplifying it to common terminology. I felt like I'd already run plenty goddam long enough, and didn't want to add another tangential clarification on terminology. You are, of course, completely right though.
Baranyk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A man once told me you can avoid the captains mast with two shots. One for Poseidon, and one for you. Perhaps a third for me will do the trick.
Edit: where you at! Penance. https://imgur.com/gallery/Bx6Mm
furushotakeru ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:40:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I admit that about three paragraphs in I had to scroll up and make sure you werenโt u/shittymorph
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
!RedditSilver
oh_look_a_fist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I liked all of this.
80s_Rock_rock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sailor perhaps?
hairjell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An easy way to remember Port is left is they both have four letters.
AndrewZabar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn dog! Great stuff. I wonder if Kip Thorne had a cameo appearance in Interstellar, but if writing team counts as much as actor, then he probably has such a number.
namelessted ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering the influence of sailing on the rules of driving that you pointed out, it seems strange that the UK is the place where they drive on the left side of the road.
quedfoot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should include " the cut of your jib," how the word jib originally was specific type of sail. Nowadays, this phrase isn't so common, but when used like I wrote it, it means: I like your style/look/appearance/attitude.
UnsignedRealityCheck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something that is absolutely fascinating when reading on the Internet, late at night holding your glass of selected beverage and nodding รญn acceptance as you absorb the awesome TIL and can't wait to boast with your new information to somebody you know.
However pity the poor sod unloading this story at a party, everybody around him surreptitiously fading away into the nearby bushes Homer Simpson-style, and will try to avoid the poor bastard for the rest of the evening.
mikkel190 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should go to better parties. :P
NocheOscura ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, as a colorblind person those lights look the exact same. I guess that's one of the many reasons I'm not allowed to be a pilot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Whind_Soull ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been 2 years since I originally wrote that comment, but I'm pretty sure that I was, in fact, drunk at the time. I vaguely recall getting a few sentences in and thinking, "Eh, let's see where she goes..."
overkill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see you are a paid up member of CANOE: Committee to Attribute a Naval Origin to Everything.
Bond4141 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did I just read a Vsauce script?
__Not__the__NSA__ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*And, as always, thanks for watching. *
Devadander ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this
Whind_Soull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome. :)
bangfu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was beginning to suspect that you were gonna wind this up with some reference to a wrestling match that had some dude falling into a table ala /u/shittymorph...
Todo744 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...when the undertaker threw mankind off hะตll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table. Damn you for ruining my trust in the internet u/shittymorph
masterwinning ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn dude, almost as good as /u/shittymorph
NicJames2378 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:09:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You had gold but no updoots, so I dooted your button for you. You're welcome ๐
beermeupscotty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a blog you run or podcast that I can subscribe to? That was awesome!
dvaunr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:50:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I wish this were true, but you claiming Kevin Bacon was in footloose has destroyed all of your credibility.
Whind_Soull ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:53:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure I understand. Are you claiming that Kevin Bacon wasn't in Footloose?
thehotknob ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:22:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/Jmrd1MbNkFs
Whind_Soull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, thanks...good to know that neither of us are losing our minds.
AncientSwordRage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where can I read more things like this?
PointyOintment ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If there's a subreddit I'd guess it's called /r/textsauce.
Edit: I was wrong. Anybody know of such a subreddit?
orphans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should be /r/DepthHub but this comment is better than literally anything I've ever seen there.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you.
DaemonDanton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh My God
pitafred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh
TannenFalconwing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To remember the terms port and starboard I just go with โsecond star to the right.โ Starboard is on the right, port on on the other side.
LeWhisp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a just watched an episode of qi
Arderis1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just remember that the short words (red, port, left) and the long words (green, starboard, right) go together.
roh8880 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! You forgot โI like the cut of your gib.โ as a nautical based saying.
lifelongfreshman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot, to me, the easiest way for an english speaker to remember which side is port: Both port and left have the same number of letters. It's how I've remembered it all this time.
MessrV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is beautiful
chickwad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Jordan Schlansky?
lawparsimoniae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want you on my team for trivia night.
wolf_and_blade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is some serious, serious shit.
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is just fucking fantastic.
muchachomalo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another way to remember Port is left is they have the same number of letters. Then obviously the other one is starboard.
suid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We just found where James Burke has been hanging around.
Patron_Saint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another way to remember. Red, left, port are all shorter words than their counterparts green, right, starboard
lemonLimeBitta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unsubscribe from 'nautical facts'
skywreckdemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is way more interesting than it should be.
Reddithian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stephen Fry? Is that you?
jerkmanj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm too hungover for this shit, but have an up vote and a fave.
Im_Tiny_Rick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remembered it because the letters r and s are next to each other in the alphabet. So our Starboard is Right.
THE_GR8_MIKE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I signed up to this here reddit back in the day.
Im_Lucifer_Not_Evil ยท 928 points ยท Posted at 16:43:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think English is bad then you should look at German. If something new comes around they just combine words from other things.
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 933 points ยท Posted at 17:38:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, small like a mouse, but it has wings. We'll call it a flutter mouse.
TheDangiestSlad ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 20:23:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's a car, but for sick people...sick car!
[deleted] ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 20:33:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personally, Iโm a fan of โsick sisterโ for nurses
fiesewicht ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 21:16:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda correct, but Krankenschwester would rather translate to sister of the sick (people).
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:21:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shhhh, just let me believe my nurses are skate nuns in the off hours
fiesewicht ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:23:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever floats your boat haha
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:33:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be lift-liquid in German
DoomsdayRabbit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:49:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was = lift, ser = liquid?
Asherahs_Daughter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:18:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is the word for nun (and also sister), so you're not wrong
FreeInformation4u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:43:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But Krankenschwester is the correct term for nurses... At the very least, female nurses.
PointyOintment ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 21:16:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"cool closet" for fridge
Omadon1138 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 22:21:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hand shoe" is one of my favorites.
penguinsandbuildings ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:22:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will never not laugh at handschuhe
topCyder ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:48:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that a cell phone is called a "handy" there is the thing that makes me giggle every time.
3226 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:09:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I particularity love Stephen Fry's description of this.
kuchikopi5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:04:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I also like โearth berry.โ
SophisticatedVagrant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:22:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Erdbeere would be translated more like "ground berry". A berry, which grows on the ground.
josiahw ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:23:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about twisted sister?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:25:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No way. Their jeans are too tight.
unicorn-jones ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 19:44:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....seriously?
LightsaberMadeOfBees ยท 392 points ยท Posted at 19:57:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All their animals are like that.
https://www.babbel.com/magazine/static/img/en/FlowchartAnimals7.jpg
Huldra90 ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 20:44:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the chart and got to ink fish (squid), in norwegian that's actually called an ink squirt.
PointyOintment ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 21:14:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The English names for the skunk, armadillo, and sloth also seem to have somewhat literal meanings. Actually, I guess most probably do, if you go back far enough.
PunxsatownyPhil ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:27:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skunk - Algonquin - "urinating fox"
the_fuego ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:15:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, Pete, it is. Actually, it's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land."
TheGodDamnDevil ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:25:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was not aware of that.
DoomsdayRabbit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:44:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Onion city begs to differ.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:17:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does this guy know how to party, or what?!
monstrinhotron ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:22:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anteater has got to be the laziest name for an animal in English.
nuxenolith ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:21:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hippopotamus is Greek for "river horse".
Rhinoceros is Greek for "nose horn".
Platypus is Latin/Greek for "flat foot".
Rick-D-99 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:59:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Thatโs the part of the platypus they focused on? Not duck beaver? Not egg mammal? Not poison milk tears?
frotc914 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:28:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"yak".
random_german_guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ant bear in german
someguy3 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 21:21:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A shield-toad is my new favorite.
But we also do it. Goldfish, swordfish, jellyfish, grizzly bear, black bear, right whale, never even thought about guinea pig until I saw it there.
GardaGetOutOfMeGaff ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:59:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How have I never heard of right whale before now.
3720to1_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:25:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Iโm like I bet they meant โwhite whaleโ... nope
DanYHKim ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:42:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have been told that it was the 'right' whale to hunt. Why it was supposed to be a favored prey is never explained . . .
nevereven ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:27:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Among other desirable qualities, they float when killed. Still endangered today.
rislim-remix ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:15:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, though, goldfish and swordfish are types of fish. Also, black bears and grizzly bears actually are types of bears, and right whales are in fact a type of whale.
Jellyfish and guinea pigs still totally count, though
someguy3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:51:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Catfish, not a cat.
rislim-remix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it is a fish, so it's nowhere near the level of "flutter mouse".
KNO56 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:46:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shield-toad, yeah it's the same in Dutch
kooshipuff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:05:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Swedish! Skรถldpadda.
horseband ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:23:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just looked at the Wikipedia article. Not related to pigs, not even from the same continent as Guinea. Wtf?! My life is a lie. Anyways, I get to this part,
Yes! A culture that truly appreciates the splendor of the Guinea Pig as much as I do. I'll keep reading and see in what amazing ways they worship the loved Guinea Pig
:(. I'm done reading about Guinea Pigs for the day. If the first two paragraphs pretty much shattered my worldview on them, I am guessing the rest of the page details how they tie bombs to them and use them as weapons of war or something.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:33:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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max_adam ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:37:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It must be OP's mom [add german equivalent here]
Grembert ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:28:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Es muss OP's Mutter sein.(or OS for Original Sender/Schreiber)
oz6702 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:32:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or "es muss die Mutti der OP sein" if you want to use genitive case. (I'm terrible at genders of German words so who knows if those are the right ones)
Grembert ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:03:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mutti is a "nickname" like mom but isn't really used outside parts of Germany . "Mutter" is "Mother" and it would be "des OP's" unless OP is female or more than one person.
(I'm a native speaker)
Edit: Just realized that he actually said "OP's mom" and you're correct. Don't want to delete all my hard work though.
oz6702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, the des/der difference always throws me off. But you're saying that if OP is male, it would be der?
Grembert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Articles in German make no sense at all.
No in the genitive it's "Mutter des OP's" if it's male and "Mutter der OP" if it's female.
I know it's confusing because "der" is usually used as a male article (Der Mann, Der Junge,...).
Sadly, even though we have male, female and neutral articles (der,die,das), they've somehow been assigned randomly to all the words. For example: It's "Der Mann" and "Der Junge" and "Die Frau" for man, boy and woman but it's "Das Mรคdchen" for girl.
Objects are the worst because instead of all having "das" since objects are genderless, all three articles are used but with no logic behind it. It's "der Lรถffel" (spoon), "die Gabel" (fork) and "das Messer".
And People think the Germans are efficient.
oz6702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up partially bilingual (English/German) and I took German as my elective language for all four years of HS (because, hey, easy class for me!). Even with all of that, I could never keep word genders straight.
Are there any rules that do apply pretty much universally? I seem to recall that most machines are masculine, e.g. der Staubsauger. Is that correct?
Grembert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, do you know where your German side originates from?
I can't think of any universal rules. I never noticed but you're right that most of machines are masculine but then you have "die Mikrowelle" (microwave) or "die Fernbedienung" (remote) or "die (Sound)Anlage" (like a sound set up).
Unfortunately I don't think you can learn them without checking the article for every single word. There are some words though where two articles can be used as people are a bit divided about which is correct, like "der/das Radio" or "der/das Teller" (plate)
oz6702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually yes! My family on my Mom's side were German Jews who emigrated to the U.S. just a few months before their neighborhood was rounded up and moved to a ghetto. My maternal grandmother was, I think, about 12 or 13 years old at the time. I don't actually know where in Germany they lived though. Now you've got me curious. Guess I'm calling my mom this evening.
Asherahs_Daughter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya, that's correct if OP is female
gorcorps ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:14:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard of how German words are formed like this. Good to see such a nice visual
Flyzo ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 21:43:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fridges are "cooling cabinets", vacuums are "dust suckers", germans are "World Master"
KNO56 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:48:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those examples you gave are literally the same as in Dutch. I believe all Germanic languages work in the way that you can combine words to form new ones.
poptart2nd ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:40:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All languages combine words to make new words, we just don't notice: toothpaste, mouthwash, dishsoap, automobile, all just combinations of words which describe them.
Asherahs_Daughter ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:25:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh! I used to play this game when I moved to Germany where I would try to guess words I didn't know by making compounds out of the ones I did know. The first time I ever got it right? Floss. I was in Apotheke and I said "Where is the tooth rope?" And the guy was like "Tooth rope's on aisle 5." I was so proud!
I think German gets such a reputation for compound words because they have drastically fewer base words that they build from than English, so there's a whole lot more recycling.
umrguy42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:23 on January 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Although funnily enough (maybe even ironic?), from what I heard, this tendency got so bad when trying to come up with the German for "recycling", they supposedly just gave up and went with it as a loan word...
xxxsur ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:37:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Asshole, dickhead, fuckface...
3226 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Channelling Kevin Kline right there...
OptionalGuacamole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean "teethpaste" right?
rnoyfb ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:58:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most languages do to some degree but German is an extreme example of it.
kaihoanguyen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vietnamese language does similiar things, a shark is a fish fat a dolphin is a fish pig, sure there's more I don't know a lot of Vietnamese. Course it's a totally different kind of language but same thing.
rnoyfb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite compound word ever is the Korean word ์์ฝ. It means pill or tablet but it's literally "medicine egg."
crucible299 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:25:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personal favourite: diarrhea is 'Fall through'
SheeEttin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:21:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's from the Greek dia (through) and rhea (flow), so basically the same.
DanYHKim ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:50:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite German word, lately, is "Eierschalensollbruchstellenverursacher". It's a device for breaking a perfect crack on the top of your boiled egg, so you can eat it from an egg cup. Look it up on YouTube!
I think it works out as: Eierschalen (eggshell) stellbruch (breakage) verursacher (thing that makes it happen), or something like that.
blackcatkarma ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:38:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a joke name for the thing, or possibly a technical description. But you might like the usual name for it: "Eierkรถpfer" (egg decapitator).
stevie_wonder_bread ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Egg decapitator sounds pretty badass
ArcticReloaded ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:45:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sollbruchsstelle" is a spot (Stelle as "place", "spot) that is intended (soll from sollen "should") to break (bruch from brechen "break") first in order to save the rest of the equipment or whatever (like a fuse).
So, the device you are describing creates a weakness in an egg's shell where you can break the egg (you can "kรถpf" an egg, i.e. behead it).
Flyzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It gets even better! Sollbruch means "must break" or "has to break", stelle is a place and Verursacher comes from the verb "verursachen" which means to cause something. A Verursacher is literally a 'causer' so to speak. An "egg shell must-break place causer".
escott1981 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any word that you have to take five breaths while saying it is way too long!
SheogorathGaming ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:19:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Friend's house.
Oh okay thank you
letsgocrazy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:21:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit has been slapping itself on the back for calling Raccoons "Trash Pandas" - but the Germans have been calling them "wash bears" for ages, since they always was their food with their greedy little theiving hands.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:58:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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larvyde ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:20:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called...
A "Turkey" in English
A "Hindi" in Turkish
A "Peru" in Hindi
A "Calcutta Fowl" in Dutch
A "Dutch Chicken" in Malay
An "Egyptian Bird" in Greek
A "Roman (Greek) Chicken" in Arabic
An "Indian" in French
A "French Chicken" in Irish
A "Spanish Chicken" in Breton
I might've gotten some wrong, CMIIW
brokenKetchup ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:04:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A โchinese henโ in urdu
Segt-virke ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:09:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A well-traveled bird.
nuxenolith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a "threat-cock" in German.
hainguyenac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A "foreign chicken" in Vietnamese
astralradish ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:34:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Help. Stuck in an infinite loop.
Vexal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:47:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so thatโs where the name for dugong pokรฉmon came from.
salamenceftw ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:39:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, Suddenly Dewgong makes sense in pokemon.
Spiffy87 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:20:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Germans invented the "(thing)-b o y e" meme.
"Hans, I've discovered a new animal! Look at this shieldy-boy!"
pumpkinrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bat is the same in Swedish - fladdermus.
mrcassette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you should post this to /r/coolguides if you haven't (or it hasn't been already).
ruminajaali ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that just expanded my brain in am efficient manner. Thank you for that suggestion.
bellhalla ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 20:44:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs still happens in relatively modern times, too. When German prisoners of war locked up in Texas during World War II encountered armadillos there, they named the previously unknown-to-them creatures โpanzerschweinโ, or โtank pigsโ
PointyOintment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panther pigs?
bellhalla ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:18:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a bit wrong. โPanzerโ doesnโt specifically mean tank, although itโs often used that way. Itโs the German word for โarmoredโ, so they were technically calling the armadillos โarmored pigsโ.
PseudonymIncognito ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:41:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly a safe in German is a "Panzerschrank" or "armored cabinet".
SuperSmith_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:37:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the term Panzer came from Panzerkampfwagen, or roughly armored fighting vehicle.
I may be wrong, but zoologically Panzer means shell.
Grunherz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not really correct. A knight's breastplate for example in German is called a Brustpanzer.
Comes from middle high-German panzier = breastplate, from the old French pancier(e), from the Latin pantex (genitive: panticis) = belly
Same origin as pancetta (pork belly bacon)
SuperSmith_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:04:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's incorrect? I was talking about the shorthand Panzer referring to tanks. Not that the word originated there.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panzer Vor!
SuperSmith_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:37:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Panther in German is Panther.
AwSMO ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 21:14:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, that's how german works.
Words can be compounded to form compound words.
I will from now on follow relevant english words with the german translation in brackets.
Captain (Kapitรคn) of a Ship (Schiff)? Schiffskapitรคn.
Now, lets say there's a girl named Barbara. Barabara really likes to bake rhubarb (Rhabarber) cake and it's absolutely delicious so everyone calls her Rhabarerbarbara. Now Rhaberbabarbara realises that she can open a bar (Bar) so she opens the Rhaberbabarbarabar. Some Barbarians (Barbaren) regularily come to visit her to eat the absolutely amazing cake so everyone calls them the Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbaren. Those Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbaren have some gorgeous beards (Bart), a Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbart. Those beards are shaved by a barber (barbier) who is refered to as the Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbier. That Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbier brews beer (Bier) in his free time, the Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbier which he sells in his bar, the Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar and it is sold by a nice little girl called Bรคrbel, although everyone just calls her Rhaberbabarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbarbรคrbel.
So, that is the story of Barbara to show the elegance and usefulness of compound words!
Buntschatten ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:13:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You fucked up Rhabarber in all the compound words.
AwSMO ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:15:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well fuck me, whoops
TrojanZebra ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:58:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You added an extra a in the second Barbara as well, but the extra letters slowly creeping in is what fucking killed me
BarbarasRabarberBar ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:50:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes?
Muzzy2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did it...
"Redditor for 11 months...."
ReneG8 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:27:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a video somewhere for this.
AwSMO ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:30:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what you are searching for
Ran4 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:31:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Same in Swedish (fladdermus = fladder + mus. Fluttermouse!)
TheLurkingMenace ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:39:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I know this one thanks to The Tick: Der Fledermaus.
sturmhauke ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:02:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was younger, I thought it was Deflater Mouse, which sort of made sense because he had a depressed personality.
AwSMO ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:10:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Die*
PapaSays ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:21:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks to the Tick? I always thought "Die Fledermaus" was the only opera they ever played in the Gotham Opera House.
The_Bobs_of_Mars ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a superhero in The Tick called Die Fledermaus.
Android_Obesity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They changed that character's name to "Batmanuel" in the live-action version. At first I was disappointed because I hate new things but in the end I think that's funnier since they also made him talk like Antonio Banderas.
hettybell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many years ago my great grandmother announced one Christmas that she wanted to watch "Die Fiddlemouse" which was being shown on TV. It's been called Die Fiddlemouse in my family ever since.
SheeEttin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:29:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Die Fiddlermouse on the Roof?
Telinary ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:19:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that was long enough ago that if you ask someone from germany they probably won't know that the Fleder in Fledermaus meant flatter=flutter.
regendo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:17:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is, unless they've read it 5 times on reddit.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:58:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Asherahs_Daughter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That and it's absorbed random words from all the places Britain conquered
Metallkiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask Google for images of a "Fledermaus"
Hexxman007 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:40:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
der fledermaus
poptart2nd ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:17:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Dutch word for "toy" literally translates as "play good!" I fucking love Germanic languages
KNO56 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:52:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but the "good" refers rather to a product/a good, than the positive statement of good
poptart2nd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:17:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THAT'S STILL AMAZING! I've been learning Dutch for like 8 months now and I LOVE finding things like that. My favorite so far is "stofzuiger;" it's literally just "dust sucker!" I've been telling my friends that the Dutch word for "husband" translates back as "really enjoyed" and they think it's just the best thing ever.
Asherahs_Daughter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:37:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love them in German as well. Planes? Fly Things. Tools? Work Things.
KNO56 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey that's pretty good! Took me a minute there to figure it out. I can see where you are coming from, but "really enjoyed" would translate to "echt (van) genoten". "Echtgenoot" would then translate to something closer to "real/formal partner".
JarOfWishes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:52:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming you mean echtgenoot, so I'll tell you the context in which that makes a little bit more sense than "really enjoyed".
In this case, "echt" refers to an old fashioned term for the state of marriage, instead of "really", which is the modern defenition. "Genoot" can be the past tense of "geniet", but here it is a word you can stick onto the end of some other noun to create a term you'd call your companion in regards to the word you linked it to. "Kamergenoot" would mean your roommate, "klasgenoot" would mean your classmate. So a more accurate literal translation of echtgenoot would be like "matrimony mate".
That being said, echtgenoot is dated, and I think the actual modern term we use for husband and wife are funnier and more literal. Usually if someone refers to their husband, it's literally "my man", "mijn man". You could never say that about your boyfriend, in Dutch, it's only for marriage. Same for women, it's "my woman", "mijn vrouw". When people get married, they are "hereby declared man and woman", "hierbij verklaard man en vrouw."
......yeaaaaah we're weird.
poptart2nd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah that was covered too, haha. I guess Duolingo just likes to cover all the bases :)
although while i've got you, why is "boyfriend" the diminutive form of "friend?" I thought that was hilarious that "boyfriend" is written like "little friend"
JarOfWishes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:08:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's definitely hilarious and to be honest, I have no clue why it is like that, I've always found it weird too and never used it myself. I feel like it's the term people use when they're in their early/mid teens, after that it becomes vriend/vriendin. Ugh, same stuff with 'verkering', pls no.
Have fun learning Dutch! (: May you one day find yourself stumbling upon the Hema to buy supplies for boerenkool met worst.
regendo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:19:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So more of a "play thing", like in German? (Spielzeug)
Grunherz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:32:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The German word "Zeug" has come to mean thing only fairly recently. The real meaning of Zeug is rather equiment or means with which to achieve something. Thus, Werkzeug (equipment with which to achieve work), Zaumzeug (equipment for bridling), Flugzeug (equipment with which to achieve flight, or flight equipment as we even call it in English), and Spielzeug (equipment for playing).
AnonymousCoward4223 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:31:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In german its โSpielzeugโ (play thing). Which is only one of the many thing words in German. A few more examples:
coopiecoop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:33:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the word she/he refered to was "Spielware(n)".
(which is why /u/KNO56 pointed out that "good" in this context is meant as in "Ware"/"Produkt", not as in the attribute "good")
Grunherz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:40:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The German word "Zeug" has come to mean thing only fairly recently. The real meaning of Zeug is rather equiment or means with which to achieve something. Thus, Werkzeug (equipment with which to achieve work), Zaumzeug (equipment for bridling), Flugzeug (equipment with which to achieve flight, or flight equipment as we even call it in English), and Spielzeug (equipment for playing).
ShikiRyumaho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could also translate Zeug as the good.
Willdabeast9000 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:22:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Es ist einfach. Wir toten den Fledermausmann."
T0xicati0N ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:26:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yรถu drรถpped sรถmething.
rs2excelsior ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know why this made me giggle uncontrollably...
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:15:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
English has those words, too, but we don't realize it. I can't even think of a good example. But I would have to say it seems like German has many many more of them.
(Actually, here's a funny one: before you're in first grade, in North America, you're in kindergarten. As in the german words kinder and garten. Children garden. What the fuck.)
RFC793 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:45:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, we have compound words, but donโt string 4 or 5 of them together into a single word. Only exception I can think of is antiestablishmentarianism, but that is more prefixes and suffixes than independent words.
Android_Obesity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can toss in another prefix for "antidisestablishmentarianism." Medicine does it with Greek and Latin roots for stuff like "myelomeningocele" and "esophagogastroduodenoscopy."
RFC793 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:40 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can we throw an -ology on there? You know, the study of <too lazy to expand it right now on a cellphone>.
jfarrar19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We must grow the children!
PM_ME_YOUR_VULVA_PIC ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:28:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cough Seahorse cough Butterfly cough
toth42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:28:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in Norwegian, "flaggermus". Literally flapping mouse.
concussedYmir ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:30:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Icelandic: Skin like leather, flaps a lot. Leather flapper. Leรฐurblaka.
Franticfap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FluterMoussen
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:14:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Close. Fledermaus.
Henkersjunge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're an idiot Brian
Franticfap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
im unclear, who is brian?
Henkersjunge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you were referencing comedian Brian Regan.
mikeash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that related to deflator mouse?
kaizervonmaanen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in Norwegian... We also combine flutter and mouse to "Flaggermus"
Butternades ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fledermaus. Good piece by Strauss
FUCKING_HATE_REDDIT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In French we call them bald mice. Apprently some 5th century monk made a typo from cava (howl) to calva (bald).
price101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In French it's a bald mouse
MazzShazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Die Fledermaus!
EvilStevilTheKenevil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, having written a novel-length fanfiction that's full of technobabble and somewhat abstract events, chaining lots of small words together to form new ones (such as somewhen, bareneck, or foxbot) sounds like a lot of fun.
praise_the_s0up ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My personal favorites are Bildwerfer and Fallschirmjรคger
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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HabseligkeitDerLiebe ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:42:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oldtimer (vintage car)
Wellness (spa)
Whirlpool (jacuzzi)
svendub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did honestly not know those words do not have the same meaning in English.
RichardSaunders ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
with the exception of wellness bereich, English speakers will still understand what you mean, but the terms OP mentions are more common
YuNg-BrAtZ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:27:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If someone said Oldtimer in reference to a car, I probably wouldn't know what they mean. I'd think they were talking about an old person.
Whirlpool I might have less of a hard time trying to figure out, but I think I'd still be confused.
My German is shitty though so y'know.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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YuNg-BrAtZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from the US. Used to speak German pretty well, now I don't because I haven't really had a chance to use it, so I don't know how much their adoption of English words has really affected me. I don't think I ever used Oldtimer or Whirlpool, though, so I doubt that has much to do with it.
Eurynom0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least in the US, Whirlpool is a brand of home appliances. If you just said "Whirlpool" to someone in the US they'd probably think of something like a washing machine (for clothing).
HabseligkeitDerLiebe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get Whirlpool brand appliances in Germany, too.
SirBackspace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And most of them are neutral, beginning with das because their foreign.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:53:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Das Handy, Der Pullover, Der Pullunder, Der Smoking, Der Beamer, Das Fitness Studio. Sorry, no.
SirBackspace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fook.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Japanese do this all the time.
KingoftheGinge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pullover is used in English though. In fact, I'd more likely say pullover than sweater. But most likely jumper.
Asherahs_Daughter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In some regions. English is spoken in so many places that it varies wildly. I'm a native speaker and have only ever used the word pullover in German ๐
KingoftheGinge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
English is also my native language... I have used it in English and German. 8)
Asherahs_Daughter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice! Didn't mean to imply you weren't, btw. My apologies!
similar_observation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
German was also once spoken widely in the US.
In fact, we can thank Germany for one of our more famous regions, Texas. If it weren't for Bavarian settlers, we wouldn't have Texas cookouts.
American president Dwight Eisenhower is from this region.
Spiffy87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Germans going to the store to buy a handy...
claudiusbritannicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pullover is used in English too. Smoking is used in many European languages because tuxedo jackets used to be very similiar to smoking jackets.
hawksgirl4life ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:21:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it sure makes for some entertaining long words!
not-scp-1715 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:50:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UBERFRANKENWORDS!
miracleorange ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*รผberfrankenwรถrter
logicalmaniak ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:29:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We mostly just pick another language to say the word in, and it magically means something completely different.
putter-together? Just use Latin! Com-puter! Sees far away? Tele-scope!
spraynpraygod ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:57:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isnt lightbulb "glow pear"?
downquarks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, it is ("Glรผhbirne"). And we sometimes shorten that one to "Birne" (pear) when the context is clear.
DrunkHurricane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that much weirder than the English word...
_yesterdays_jam_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:49:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Barbara's Rhubarb!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA2AG-L0VIs
ADSRelease ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this happens to new everyday words in English too
Im_Lucifer_Not_Evil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah itโs just more prevalent in German is all
therealdilbert ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which is brilliant because if you google something you only get hits on that thing, not a million hits on each of the words making up the thing
TaylorS1986 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:10:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, English forms compound words in much the same way as German does, they're both West Germanic languages, but we just often write the components of compounds as if they separate because of the influence of French writing norms on English.
popisfizzy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Two of my favorite examples of this are "ice cream" and "ice cream truck". Once you know what a compound is in linguistic terms, it's clear that these two are both compounds (and obviously one is a compound of a compound), and most people don't even realize because they aren't written as one word.
TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dang it, now I'm hungry for ice cream!
Alpha_Bit_Poop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of my favorite Grandpa Simpson line "Oh a fax machine is nothing but a waffle iron with a phone attached to it!"
iluvstephenhawking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
May I have some examples?
zetecvan ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:59:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm learning German. Snow + Ball = Snowball In German that is Schneeball Snowball fight is Schneeballschlacht
Glove = Handschuh (hand shoe) Water heater = Wasserkocher Snail = Schnecke Slug = Nacktschnecke (naked snail)
RasperGuy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:52:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is ch pronounced in German, like Church or chute? I guess it depends if it's after an s?
katflace ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:39:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neither, it's a sound that just doesn't exist in modern English. If you want to give it a try: put your mouth into the same position you'd need to make a "k", but instead open a little gap between your tongue and the ridge on the roof of your mouth that it's touching (that's called the velar ridge, by the way) and just exhale.
(It also changes on what kind of vowel is in front of it, but you probably don't need that much detail! Also, the different forms of it are allophones - that is, someone fluent in the language would perceive them as being the same. Using the "wrong" one would sound slightly odd, but it'd still recognisably be the same word.)
<sch> is its own beast entirely. Fluent speakers just recognise it as a whole, not as <s> + <ch>. I guess that's indeed like <ch> in "chute". Or <sh> in "sheep".
johnmedgla ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:12:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still have the voiceless velar fricative in Scotland. Loch is the obvious example.
95DarkFireII ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:23:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically, Loch means hole in German.
Eurynom0s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if the etymology is shared but that's along the same lines of what the Gaelic "loch" means--a hole in the ground with water in it.
katflace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, the one time I decide to simplify, someone else who also knows the thing I simplified away shows up... :P I think it's fair to say that it's not a major feature of the language viewed as a whole, though. And also, I honestly don't know this - are there a lot of words that only get used in Scottish English and have this sound, or is it mostly words that also exist in other varieties and just get pronounced differently?...
johnmedgla ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:00:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's just that the sound survived in Scotland and didn't in much of England (or beyond). Loch is a standard and quite common English word (never Lake), but an English individual would pronounce it lษk instead of lษx.
It crops up Scottish interjections (och, ach), and it's everywhere in place names. These tend to get mutilated when pronounced by people from areas where English has lost /x/.
It also slots neatly into learning German (or Dutch or whatever else) since everyone can pronounce 'Buch' (or Bach for that matter) satisfactorily without having to be corrected fourteen thousand times.
Eurynom0s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those look the same...?
johnmedgla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This might help.
zetecvan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:01:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
It depends where it is in the word and what letter is in front of it. Take a look at this page. for explanations and examples.
miracleorange ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's after an s, it's pronounced like chute. Otherwise, depending on the accent and/or placement in the word, it can either be said like if you said chute with the end of your tongue or like that stereotypical German phlegm sound, like challah bread.
herpaderp234 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my favorite german words: Streichholzschรคchtelchen. A small box of matches
HabseligkeitDerLiebe ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 20:05:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't have newfangled things like "airplanes", "vehicles", "drumsets" or "tools". We like "stuff".
An airplane is stuff that flies, so we call it "Flugzeug" (flight-stuff).
A vehicle is stuff that drives, so we call it "Fahrzeug" (drive-stuff).
A drumset is stuff that you beat, so we call it "Schlagzeug" (beat-stuff).
Tools are stuff you use for work, so we call it "Werkzeug" (work-stuff).
When gloves first came around, we saw what they really were: "Handschuhe" (hand-shoes).
We also like to describe what things do directly. So we call the contraceptive pill "Antibabypille". If that one doesn't work, you'll have a toddler in a few years time. Only that in Germany that would be a "Kleinkind" (little child). When you have one you'll probably need a larger car, with a large trunk. Since you put suitcases in the trunk it's only logical to call it "Kofferraum" (suitcase-space). But maybe you'll still use trams by then, since children cost a lot of money. However in Germany you wouldn't ride a tram, but a "Straรenbahn" (street-train), because that's exactly what it is. But actually the part "Bahn" is shorthand for the full word for train which is "Eisenbahn" (iron-way). And where would you go with the tram? To the zoo, obviously, to see some sloths, only in Germany you'd have to look for the "Faultier" (lazy-animal).
When naming animals, we got lazy, though. We like dogs. Dogs are nice. There should be more dogs in the world.
A fruit bat looks kind of like a dog. And it can fly! Why not call it a "Flughund" (flight-dog)?
And what about the ocean? Seals are almost as cute as dogs! Let's call them "Seehund" (sea-dog)!
And if one dog on land wasn't enough. Tanukis look pretty similar to dogs, but also to martens. They're "Marderhund" (marten-dog)!
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:22:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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HabseligkeitDerLiebe ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:27:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but the literal translation of "glove compartment" being "hand-shoe compartment" isn't really surprising after learning that a glove is a hand-shoe.
Amaroko ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:17:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that "-zeug" as suffix doesn't really mean "-stuff". It's an old word, related to ziehen (to draw, pull), just like Zeugnis (testimony) and Zeuge (witness). As such, it's used for a wide variety of things you "draw on" to perform a task. It can also mean cloth, e.g. "Bettzeug" isn't "bed stuff", but bedclothes.
Anyway, props for not translating "Flug" to "fly", like some people do on occasions like this. Fahren isn't as specific as to drive, but let's not get into that...
RichardSaunders ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:57:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"i drove with the train to work"
didn't know you had a side hussle!
HabseligkeitDerLiebe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Zeug" and "fahren" having more nuance definitely is true. However the translation as "stuff" and "drive" is the one that works best in one word, although "equipment" would also work for most instances of "Zeug". And I wouldn't translate "Zeug" to "cloth" as a general rule. "Bettzeug" is the equipment for the bed and to me also includes the pillow and the blanket, not just the linens, but maybe that's a dialectal difference.
"Fahren" just is very specific. The most fitting translation would be "moving by means of a vehicle, except heavier-than-air aircraft" and that just doesn't roll off the tongue.
Chilaxicle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a big fan of "glaubirne" personally
Directly translates to "glowing pear," it's their word for lightbulb
regendo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Close. It's "Glรผhbirne" (glรผhen - to glow), and if you can't type a "รผ" it's valid to replace it with "ue".
DrunkHurricane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that much weirder than the English word...
Chilaxicle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did I say it was weird?
I was being genuine when I said I was a big fan lol
iluvstephenhawking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's very interesting. I never knew that. Antibabypill is a no nonsense word.
Eurynom0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The tanuki IS a racoon dog.
HD4400 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:12:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Birth control pills - antibabypille
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:50:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although honestly, in practice, Die Pille (just like English).
dogggi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Die baby die!
kordusain ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:58:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/iiiiiiitttttttttttt/comments/7hp5j4/i_speak_german_and_am_used_to_long_words_still/
iluvstephenhawking ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:00:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping more along of the lines of something I would understand.
Metallkiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clothes dryer = Wรคschetrockner
The thingy to clamp clothes in a line to dry = clothes clamp = Wรคscheklammer
Desk = write table = Schreibtisch
Website = website because it's a site on the web, this word actually works like German words.
vjstupid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gloves you say? Ridiculous, these are clearly hand shoes.
xSolitariusx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I got to "Zeug" in German I thought this concept made things really easy but was equally funny.
Krail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
English still does this, it's just that we have a wealth of loan words and word roots from different languages to use as well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its an ancient culture most clearly explained by the lego.
Rex_visible ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
English used to do this until the Anglo Saxons started coming into contact with outsiders be they Norse, Norman or others. I guess they figured it was easier to just use someone else's word for something rather than having to keep coining new compound nouns all the time. The disadvantage of this is that other languages' words don't quite work or convey the meaning quite as well as your own sometimes. Someone, somewhere pointed out the example of "perjury" vs "oath breaking." Perjury sounds and looks cool but there's a chance you might not learn this word until quite late in your schooling. "Oath breaker" is pretty direct and could probably be more readily understood to a wider number of native English speakers.
LHOOQatme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Icelandic is this taken up to eleven
pivazena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I absolutely love that about German. Doubleplus good!
webtwopointno ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:06:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how is this nautical?
Edzell_Blue ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:37:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the name of the top sails on a mast.
elongatedBadger ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:07:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that moonraker?
dmanww ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends how many there are
webtwopointno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or a lantern up there, apparently
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:41:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ewrewr1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Or if you just like good books.
digmyshoes ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:24:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The cut of one's jib is in reference to a sail called a jib.
ScaramouchScaramouch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:13:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favourite is "by and large" to refer to a boat or ship that could sail well both 'by' the wind (sailing close to the direction the wind is coming from) and large (with the wind behind you).
MrMathamagician ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:05:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another one Telltale is the little strings on the mast of a sail boat and used for helping decide how to orient the sail
EVILEMU ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:43:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "Bitter End" is also a nautical term to refer to the end of a rope that the bit was on. I see it is used a lot to mean bitter like the taste.
bradd_pit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from the US, but i recently just realized recently that the term "mates" to refer to friends probably came from "shipmates" because of this reason. Since we don't use the term here, I always thought it was a weird way to say friend, but it makes sense when you think about how important everything nautical has been in the history of the UK.
Ullallulloo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe it's actually the other way around. It's from the Old English word ฤกemetta, which literally meant a sharer of food, like a table-guest. It doesn't seem to have attracted the nautical meaning until its Middle Low German permutation.
bradd_pit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
interesting. thanks for that.
Tiernoon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:02:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stuff like Beyond the Pale. Refers to the area of Ireland not owned by England(At the time obviously) e.g basically not Dublin.
English phrases do certainly have a meaning behind them.
MillenialsSmell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:38:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Luckily this website is full of illiterate fools that keep the nautical term โpayedโ in high usage
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Listless is not nautical.
While a ship listing is a much more recent word and may or may not be related.
waveydavey94 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:58:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Aubrey porn
PeriodicGolden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theatre and film also has some nautical terms (like crew) because as sailing ships became less common, theatres started to become more popular (or so I was told by a guide in an opera house)
emmanuel_blain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also stage crew were often ship's crew who weren't at sea.
RoyalYoshi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, pulling the ropes for the curtains and stuff was similar to what they did for the sails, and the whole lights thing for the ship lights or something. This seems to make sense.
thephantom1492 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shipping some goods.
LitZippo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a bit of shameless promotion I know, but I made a video about some common words and phrases and their nautical origin ages ago and the topic has always fascinated me. Anyway this is the video https://youtu.be/Be59jDY9dRI
KestrelLowing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jury rig as well.
dongasaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:53:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of which is still in use in the original nautical context. Listless isn't because it's not nautical.
FightingPolish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just had this come up today at work, we needed to open a very large door that doesnโt like high winds or it tears itself to pieces and I asked how much the door was rated for before we werenโt supposed to open it and they answered โ35 knotsโ. Then I asked how much is that in American because I donโt know how fast that is because Iโm not in a fucking boat you dipshit.
Austinswill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freeze the balls off a brass monkey- Brass plates with divots called monkeys would hold pyramids of cannon balls. When it got really cold the brass and the cannon balls would contract differently and the pyramid could come tumbling down.
Yardsale420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of your jib
Cessno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slush fund came from nautical slang too
_AlreadyTaken_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Batten down the hatches
felesroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of your jib, mate.
oO0-__-0Oo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all of the nautical exclusive terms in English come from Norse terms (many of which are still used) from thousands of years ago.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good comment by-and-large.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean we still call it "sailing" whenever a ship or boat is travelling.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure skyscraper still makes sense in itโs current context.
Unlikelylikelyhood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of your jib.
crimeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telltale, POSH (debatably, apparently)
dwkfym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yo people still sail boats
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of your jib.
ejambu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
scuttlebutt!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, learning/showing someone the ropes stems from literally showing someone the location and functions of the individual ropes on a sailing vessel.
Obviously it's still somewhat relevant, as sailboats still exist even if they've been outdated for a while now, but it's rarely used in the context of seamanship.
Midnight2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also falconry. Fed up, hoodwincked, haggard, rouse, Under my thumb, and wrapped around my little finger are all originally falconry terms.
Birdmeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same goes for falconry.
Fed up, hoodwinked, cadge, booze, mews, and loads of other phrases and words originate from falconry terminology.
joshsalvi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or if you are British: POSH
"Port Outbound, Starboard Home"
hogger85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was because heading from UK to down Africa you were on the land side of the boat for better views.
Alpha_Bit_Poop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a computer 'network' is a metaphor for how the computers connect like a fishing net!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought skyscraper came from the fact that the building is so tall it "scrapes" the sky.
aBeardOfBees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a bit taken aback to hear this.
c0nfus1on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't words like "shit" and "fuck" considered nautical terminology? I was always told i have the mouth of a sailor when I said them near old people... /s
lasssilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gravy Boat comes from the older English (not old English, just the words have been around for awhile) words "boat" and "gravy" to convey a boat filled with gravy.
goosejuice23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'By and large' is another nautical phrase iirc.
sreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of your jib
monkeyheadme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the greeting for answering the phone was almost ahoy-hoy
Krail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skyscraper is a sailing term?
dmanww ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3 sheets to the wind
loose cannon
learn the ropes
Gneiss1too ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "by and large" comes from the fact that sailing ships were described by how well they sailed "by the wind", i.e. with the wind on their beam, or sailing "large", i.e. with the wind behind them and their sails at their fullest. When a captain was assigned a ship and took it for a shake-down run, if it ran well in all circumstances he would report that "by and large" it was a good ship.
redshift76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hamper
bobcatscratch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made a huge mistake when I went through some of the albums youโve posted.
saichampa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Change tack is another saying from there, although a lot of people incorrectly say "change tact".
CUNTY_LOBSTER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Way late to this one, but โunderwayโ is also a nautical term.
READERmii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what happens when put people on a chain of islands for hundreds of years
okugotme ยท 3758 points ยท Posted at 19:57:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of the opposite thought, but this struck me not too long ago.
I was playing tag with my kids and noticed they'd yell "Pause the game" anytime they needed to stop. Made total sense with video games being a big part of their lives, but it was different enough from the "Time-out" that I grew up with that it stayed with me. Language is not static...
Edit:. Gotta say thanks for the gold, kind stranger! Way more of a lurker than a contributor, but glad that my thought resonated with all of my global, internet pals. You all are awesome and I hope all of you and your people are happy and well. All the best!
SoIdidit ยท 984 points ยท Posted at 22:16:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This opposite one reminds me of that kid who asked a senator why Trump wanted to delete all the parks. Politics aside, his use of 'delete' was interesting.
MusculoskeletalCoven ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:35:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I often say I need to edit something when I need to change it or fix it. I guess this is similar.
aughlord ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:44:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife wants me to commit more to the relationship, but that doesn't check out to me. She even said to merge our bank accounts, but I'll rather use another branch than let her be the master.
mooviies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:59:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just need to pull her to you
RDCAIA ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:29:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use "delete" regularly in that way, and it always strikes me as weird when I do, but my brain cannot come up with the right word.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:16:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'remove'?
DaSaw ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:31:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EXTERMINATE
juice_in_my_shoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ANNIHILATE
woodruff07 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:21:19 on May 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
โGet rid ofโ
RDCAIA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:09 on May 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
See....it took you 5 months to come up with the right word. That's exactly what I'm talking about. ;)
woodruff07 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:35:22 on May 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow haha I dunno how i ended up on such an old thread sorry haha
Pickled_Wizard ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 22:41:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back up...is Trump helping push a bill to reduce park funding or something?
[deleted] ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 22:44:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
National
parksMonumentsEdit: as was pointed out, this effects a couple national monuments, not parks. The article I listed explicitly says national parks cannot be effected. Whoopsie!
Pickled_Wizard ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:56:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
Patjshaz ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:45:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
National monuments...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoops, that's what I get for reading my own source too fast!
homesickexpat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:32:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cannot be affected... effected would mean something different...
GeneralDogsbody ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"...cannot be affected."
neonKow ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:50:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to note that this is not a big difference. Lots of things we treat as national parks are in fact public land in other ways. BLM land, national forest, national monuments, etc.
It changes what can be done on them a little and who manages them, but you wouldn't always be able to walk into a forest or a mountain or a desert and go, "this is definitely a national park!" They all deserve to be protected, however.
thtgyovrthr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the monument got deleted; the parks got defunded.
Locke_Step ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, lots of groups wanted various monuments to be allowed to be torn down in the name of politics. Guess they got their wish for various monuments to be allowed to be torn down in the name of politics, they just should have remembered what they were wishing for was on a Monkey Paw.
lmg00d ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:46:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-orders-dramatic-cuts-to-2-national-monuments-in-utah-1512417014
Pickled_Wizard ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:56:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
outofunity ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:57:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He wanted to logically delete them, not physically delete them. North Korea on the other hand...
pielover928 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:16:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
delete... delete... delete... DELETE... DELETE!
mistergoomba ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brother John, I knew you'd come!
NonaSuomi282 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:02:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clam down, Mikami
WachanIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:10 on January 16, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Sakujo
DaSaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EXTERMINATE
ronconcoca ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:52:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is deleting a park?. I'm not native in English, for me it would be to erase it ๐
annaftw ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 23:55:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โEraseโ still wouldnโt be quite right. Probably most appropriate would be โshut downโ or even โdefundโ.
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:29:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or remove
PM_ME_CODE_CALCS ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:02:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eradicate
SlutRapunzel ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:14:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DESTROYYYYY
Ozzie-111 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:21:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EXTERMINATE
jbsnicket ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:11:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Daleks are the supreme beings!
SlutRapunzel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....DESTROYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
leyebrow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:14:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well remove does have the implication that it's no longer there, so I'm not sure if you can "remove" land.
CLE_BROWNS_32 ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 04:21:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heโs giving the land back to the state. Google federally owned land in the US
DarthRegoria ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:35:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a child with autism who didnโt want to eat the fish on his plate of fish and chips. He didnโt even want the fish on his plate. He said โIโll eat the chips, but can you delete the fish?โ This was at least 10 years ago. Iโll never forget that phrasing.
thtgyovrthr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm sure /r/outside would have thoughts on the matter.
DaSaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just so long as they don't start talking about upgrading people.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:00:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Canyou_Knot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're talking about something a kid said, not Trump.
Not_Cleaver ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 02:26:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edit: Iโm guessing people didnโt click on the link or canโt read sarcasm.
Thatโs because national parks are obsolete.
GoldenWizard ยท -116 points ยท Posted at 23:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like bad parenting if the kid thinks Trump wants to get rid of ALL the parks. Theyโre probably just parroting what their mom or dad told them without learning to think for themselves.
scyth3s ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 23:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or... It's a fucking kid. They can easily hear "he's cancelling these two parks" and think "omg he's cancelling all parks!"
GoldenWizard ยท -101 points ยท Posted at 23:12:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you ever a kid? That isnโt how I ever thought of things. Youโre more likely to take things at face value and not extrapolate wildly when youโre a kid. Dollars to donuts he heard it from someone uninformed.
PepeIsAFrog ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 23:20:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I've never been a kid
PapaverDreaming ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:03:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? Does one ever really regard oneself as a child? I never knew my childhood while I was in it; it was just life,
This is why my philosophy on children is to treat them like the people I hope they will become.
Dong_sniff_inc ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:07:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Preeeeetty sure they were being sarcastic
PapaverDreaming ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:09:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah i know but the sentiment hit a nerve
RDCAIA ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:38:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you. I'm always amazed at how different my perspective on life is once I had a kid. It puts your own experiences of life into perspective. Like there's certain events or things that really stuck with you in your memory during childhood...I have no idea what those things are going to be for my kid, even though I may be witness to or have an integral part of those events...and my own parents really don't know what my special memories/events are. Things that really make you into the person you are.
PapaverDreaming ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in a very hectic house and being an odd child myself definitely impacts how I think about treating others. The experience has resulted in my not having children of my own, but I am definitely a favorite aunt to my seven (!) nieces and nephews.
I can't comprehend your worldview because I'm not following your path by having kids, but I'm delighted that you and I have come together on a philosophy.
Happy holidays, love. <3
Sandslinger_Eve ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:37:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha best answer to a dumbass comment I saw in a long time.
absolutedesignz ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:26:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"great, now he's reducing parks" can easily be extrapolated by a kid.
GoldenWizard ยท -28 points ยท Posted at 00:39:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it wouldnโt be. Kids donโt understand stuff like that. Thatโs how you can get away with telling them that someone who died has โgone away for a long long time,โ etc. They understand basic ideas but wonโt put it together that their countryโs leader is cutting back on federally protected lands. Not to mention that he isnโt actually cutting out all the parks. Where would the kid get that idea without it being misreported? Parents, obviously.
Erityeria ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:16:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have kids, do you?
Charlzalan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:45:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whether a kid extrapolated or took his/her parents words literally, it's possible to misunderstand things either way. Why are you fighting over this?
"Did you hear that Trump is getting rid of park land?"
Would be a totally normal thing to say, but a kid could easily interpret that sentence to mean "all park land" without extrapolating anything.
Or it could just as easily be the case that the kid didn't understand a word. "Trump is cutting parks down (in size)" sounds like another accurate sentence that a kid might not fully understand.
It could even be the case that the kid didn't understand the word "delete." The delete button on a computer doesn't eliminate the entire document. It erases one letter at a time. So, depending on the kids understanding of the word, he could have had the totally right idea about what Trump is doing.
Sandslinger_Eve ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:39:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever seen or read "things children say" if there is something kids most definetily do then it is extrapolate wildly.
Perhaps you just lacked the ability to extrapolate, wildly which might explain why you're trying to catch up now :)
dangereaux ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:00:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably heard it on TV. Be real.
leyebrow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:17:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids definitely misunderstand things, and also come to their own conclusions, often abstractly. All the time. My sister after learning about evolution as a 5-year-old asked if our grandparents were fish when they were younger. It happens.
Arto9 ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 21:36:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well pause isn't really a videogame thing... Didn't it originate from music?
Funnily enough, in Poland, a school break would be called a pause in the past. I've only ever heard it used by the oldest teachers in primary school (and I'm 23 now), we just call them breaks now.
MitoMeister ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:29:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still called pause in the Netherlands
ThePixelCoder ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:49:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but in Dutch, "pauzeren" is much broader than "pausing" in English. Pausing is generally something with music or video, while pauzeren is also used as "having a break".
ps3hubbards ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:18:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I don't think it's uncommon at all to use 'pause' in English to mean 'take a break.' Hearing "Could you pause what you're doing for a moment?" or "Let's just pause that issue and discuss it later" in a meeting. Or when speaking you might pause for effect. I actually think pause is perfectly valid to use in a real life game.
kiradotee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:52:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, you can say in English "let's take a pause".
thattoneman ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:12:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A quick Google search shows that "pause" originated from the Greek word for a halt. So it's probably fair to assume for hundreds of years now every generation found a new use for the word.
RDCAIA ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:28:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can only imagine that kids are using it these days because of the prevalence of DVR and digital media. They're exposed to that from early ages, and maybe only get into video games later. My 7-yr old son plays video games, but most of his friends dont own game systems. They all say pause during games of tag.
perk11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Russia it's still called "change" as in "shift change". Tells a story about who the schools were supposed to prepare.
langlo94 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:45:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call them "friminutt" (free minute) in Norwegian, thoughvthey do last for more than a minute.
datchilla ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 22:45:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or going paintballing and saying "I like this map"
Itchycoo ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:50:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a couple of people from Virginia who called video game levels and maps "boards" instead. Like a board game map I guess? I don't know but it struck me as really strange.
curbside_profit ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:09:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It comes from classic arcade games -- Pac Man, Donkey Kong, etc. Levels were often called boards as they were static images on the screen in which the characters would move around. This usage probably came from actual board games in which a player would move their piece around the static board.
I'm guessing...? I'm talking out of my ass but it sounds good.
Cooperette ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:16:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds about right. Pretty much everyone I knew referred to game levels as 'boards' up until the PS1/N64 era. I still hear it now and then, but usually in reference to more arcade-styled games.
Natdaprat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:04:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit in a nutshell.
Itchycoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha sounds plausible enough to me. I always find it interesting how people say things differently in different regions not too far away in the US. I had never heard that word used like that ever before.
sugardeath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use "board" a lot for stages in fighting games.
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too much Mario Party?
AssossaGpb ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:48:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find myself doing this exact thing. Last time I play airsoft I said multiple times, "Sorry, I don't know this map yet." Everytime I said it I kicked myself, but it was just so natural to call it that.
nyrol ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We used to just say โTโ and put our hands in a T shape, because we were oh so cool.
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:32:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do the T shape with my hands whenever I say "timeout"
V2kt0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We used to do that too, but I'm not from an english speaking country, so I have no idea why. Never thought about it until now.
EverythingsFineHere ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:41:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time out was used, but in Australia we also called "barleys" if we wanted temporarily out of the game but didn't want play to be interrupted. An example is while getting a drink, or being a sneaky bugger and calling "barleys" then saying you're in again right before you tap someone and run like the wind.
Dimbit ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:41:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We used to say bars, probably short for barleys. I never knew why we said it.
EverythingsFineHere ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:50:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Macquarie Dictionary has contributors discussing usage, but origin is more fuzzy. Even from what I know, it didn't originate from actual barley, but rather from bars. Either poles or monkey bars, as you had to touch them when you said it or cross your fingers of you weren't near one.
Ginix ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:36:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, that's a term that I completely forgot about.
Barleys really doesn't get used much anymore (at least in my circles).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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EverythingsFineHere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best I could find on origin and International usage. Looks like it originates from Gaelic.
EverythingsFineHere ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:32:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best I could find on origin and International usage.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:18:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, im australian and this is ringing a bell, but only slightly. Weird
Eirineftis ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:36:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like this.
It's cool to be able to bear witness to that sort of transition.
Jpf123 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:46:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why memes and slang will be ever interesting in the future due to mass media the terms and their meanings change ever more quickly but are also indicative of the times.
Fat_Brando ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:23:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Car!!"
"Car!!"
"Game on!!"
"Game on!!"
RDCAIA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:25:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We lived next to a dead end, so we never got to yell car. โน
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like, a dead end dead end, or a cul-de-sac?
RDCAIA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a cul-de-sac. We had a corner house (the x) where two streets met perpendicular. The one street extended alongside our house to a dead-end guardrail/barricade that we used as a backstop for all street games.
captainshapiro ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:28:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, the pause symbol, "II" comes from when you'd freeze a frame of actual celluloid film, you could see the left and right edge.
eurtoast ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:52:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do they yell resume to continue playing?
Timeouttimein is the best thing to yell while playing tag
Edit: stupid autocorrect
okugotme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, more of a "game on" type response. That being said, Time out/Time in is the Gold standard for how you play tag IMO...
i3aby ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:22:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 9 year old son also tells me to pause the game and I couldnโt figure out why it was annoying me, but youโve figured it out. Thanks!
okugotme ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:48:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Parents got to stay together, pal. It's us against them... ;-)
tolerablycool ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:14:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was wrestling with my 5 year old son when he started getting a bit rough. So, I held him back and said, "Wait, wait, we need a time-out." He collapsed to the floor and started to cry. I was super confused until I realized that he thought I was punishing him by sending him to his room.
Mihir2357 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:24:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used โTime-outโ (โTOโ) as a kid and im 15.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:32:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've caught myself telling people to "delete"stuff off of a whiteboard
KingoftheGinge ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time out isn't used in the same way in sports in Ireland or the UK. It's always been pause for me.
rennez77 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freeze tag was a thing when I was a kid in the 80s. Do they play that, and if so do they yell โPAUSE!โ
tipsana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Noticed this with our kids 8-10 years ago. They would be playing a board game, and I'd call one to do a chore or task, and they'd yell out "Pause" before leaving the room. Cracked me up.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But pause is just the word that means pause... has nothing to do with video games.
KaraStarbuckThrace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:56:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Along a similar note, when my dad was a kid he played cowboys and Indians. When I was a kid I played cops and robbers. The kids in my neighborhood play Navy Seals and terrorists. Culture, man.
hailcthulhu8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember saying both pause and time-out as a kid in the early 2000s. Though I did have a GameCube I used frequently
Capefoulweather ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:16:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my brother first learned to ride a bike on his own, my mother was surprised and asked him how he knew how to stop, since no one that she could recall taught him how to apply the breaks. He replied as though it was frankly obvious "I just pushed pause."
aggressive-cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't find it, but I remember reading a study about how modern kids use their thumbs to press buttons like door bells (in the rare case they leave their rooms) instead of index fingers. This is because they learned to use things like video game controllers where you always press buttons with your thumbs.
edit: might as well throw in that index finger comes from using index cards in a library to find a book before computers and databases.
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thumbs are stronger.
Warpable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still say timeout
SilentRaindrops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do today's kids use an alternative for "do overs?"
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 5YO regularly asks us to "pause".
Chapluqa79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 5 year old says that all the time when she wants a break from her imagine/pretend games.
Lylat_System ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember the Time-Out! As well followed by the hand signs
HeartChees3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:14 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To your point:
If I called out Time Out with my kids in the middle of a game, they'd all break into tears! Then through red, wet eyes and thick sobs, ask what they'd done to deserve the time out corner.
to_the_j_man ยท 870 points ยท Posted at 20:46:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but I find it funny when you get someoneโs voicemail on their cell phone and they say โIโm not here right nowโ or something along those lines.
jfb1337 ยท 382 points ยท Posted at 23:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Believe it or not, George isn't at home...
Jeremy1026 ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 23:53:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where? Could? He? Be?
Believe it or not, Iโm not home!
TylerWolff ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 00:50:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of Seinfeld has been ruined by phones. None of the plots work now.
"Oh there's a quirky misunderstanding, I'm at the wrong restaurant but I'll go to the correct restaurant. What? He just left to go see me at the restaurant I was previously at and we missed each other?"
Fuck all that. Now it'd be "I'm at the wrong restaurant. I texted him that I'll be there in ten, as soon as my uber arrives".
Tiz226 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:40:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had my nephews watch a few episodes and explained that back in the day we had to plan meet times or make a few stops to find our friends because we didn't have the convenience of cells. Then I blew their mind that we memorized our friends phone numbers.
TylerWolff ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:12:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could definitely go for an episode where George thinks his girlfriend is cheating on him and uses findmyphone to keep tabs on her. Jerry tells him it's stalking he says it's not.
Meanwhile Elaine bumps into a man on the street who invites her to get coffee and it turns out he didn't invite her to get coffee. He thought he was already on his way to have coffee with her because someone is catfishing people by pretending to be her on Tinder.
Msktb ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:42:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/redditwritesseinfeld
TylerWolff ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:46:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there any way I can just steal these and make my own hit sitcom?
I would consider giving reddit or even the individual users a writing credit but I keep all the money.
LerrisHarrington ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:54:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phone numbers? I remember we'd just show up and ask parents if our friends were home.
Tiz226 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:26:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the street lights were our alarm to get our asses home.
LerrisHarrington ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:50:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Raise your hand if you got the 'that means be home by the time they come on, not head home when they come on' talk.
Jeremy1026 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:40:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
raises hand, sheepishly
gr1mace02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just think of it as a period piece, like Mad Men or Game of Thrones :P
8hole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the plots arenโt now though?
ThyBoredMan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:16:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where could he beeee-eee-eeee?
I must be out, or I'd pick up the phone
Where could I be?
Believe it or not, I'm not home!
bloodfist ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:03:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the interest of sharing random facts, I think there are a lot of people who don't know that the melody to George's voicemail song is the theme song from Greatest American Hero. Which is still a super fun show.
prince_peacock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve wondered about that, since learning it. I was ranging from not existing to very very young while Seinfeld was on, so obviously I donโt know the culture at that time. But was that show from almost two decades before still very popular at the time (like Seinfeld today, lol)? Would people have gotten the reference? Or was George just being particularly dorky
THE_some_guy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:30:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people would have caught the reference. That episode of Seinfeld aired in 1997, and Greatest American Hero (which I'll call "GAH") was only about 15 years old at that point. The children of the 80's who were the target demographic for GAH when it was on had grown up to be the late 20s- early 30-something target demographic for Seinfeld. Also, most people in the early 80's only had 4 or 5 TV stations available, so even a relatively less popular show still had millions if not tens of millions of viewers each week. Finally, the theme song for GAH was released as a single, and got up to #2 on the pop charts, I think. So even people who didn't watch the show were probably familiar with the song.
bloodfist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:29:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea but that show was pretty popular around the time George would have been a teenager or college age, so I assume that people in that demographic would get it. Just dorky I'd guess.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:17:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please leave a message.... at the beat! I must be out or I'd pick up the phone! Where. Could I. Be?? believe it or not I'm not home! <Beep>
100pc_recycled_words ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 20:47:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That just blew my mind, donโt know why it never occurred to me!
[deleted] ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 23:26:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I can't come to the phone right now."
You never come to the phone anymore. The phone goes with you! You just don't want to talk to someone at that moment.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:17:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm too lazy to make an announcement. I just use the default message.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:32:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Teantis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:13:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If i had voicemail, which I don't, mine would be "wtf are you doing don't leave a voice message. Fucking send me a text message idiot." and then I'd just leave the recording on so the beep is whatever the maximum amount of recording time is for a voicemail answering message.
Jracx ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:32:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey this is John from Important job you just interviewed for Calling today you had the job, but we've decided after listening to that atrocious message that we no longer feel youd fit in here. Thanks
SovietJugernaut ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:00:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure I'm not alone among Millennials in that literally the only time I've ever bothered to set up or change my voicemail is when I was interviewing for jobs for precisely this reason.
Teantis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's fair. Like I said I don't have a voicemail. Also I haven't had to interview for a job more than two degrees of separation in ten years now so I forgot.
GuitarHeroJohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a call center, and when we need to call people back (because all of our agents were on the phone and they left us a message) I hear so many dumb voicemail announcements. The worst one so far was:
"Wassup, you got Brad. SIKE, Brad doesn't wanna talk to you. Leave a message"
I immediately think of situations like the one you just mentioned.
DonLaFontainesGhost ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:09:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite bit from The Newsroom:
"He sent me to voicemail."
"Maybe he just didn't pick up."
"No - four rings and voicemail is not being there. Two rings and voicemail means they sent you there."
"Okay - I have to review my entire life now..."
csl512 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:55:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should do this.
NotThatSerious26 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:39:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I๏ธ love how voicemails say something like lHello, you have reached Bob.โ I have not reached Bob. I have reached Bobโs voicemail. Donโt lie to me.
Angry_Sapphic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What else would you say?
zandyman ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:14:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry I can't take your call right now....
KingTalkieTiki ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:17:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please leave your message and I will surely return your call, thank you!
golden_n00b_1 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:22:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your call is very important to me
KingAdamXVII ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:43:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I make a point of never picking up my phone unless I like the person whoโs calling. I also donโt like when people leave me voicemail. Never call me again.
SilentRaindrops ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Due to heavier than normal call volume..
DontOpenTilXmas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:37:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, take a seat on pappy's lap and I'll explain why.
A lonnnnggg time ago, about twenttyyyyy years ago, we used to have something called answering machines. Because telephones, or as you'd call them "cell phones" used to only be available at home. (Insane, right!?). These "answering machines" were basically what you would call "voice mail". So when we said "We're not here" or "I'm not here" it was because we actually weren't here!
Now, this may sound nutty. But sometimes when people have used certain phrases or words for their entire lives, they don't just magically change them for every new technology that comes along. 30 or 40 years of using an answering machine versus 10 years of using a cell phone, it only makes sense to go with the old vernacular.
Now get off my lap, you fat sack of shit.
ernesthemingwaybing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
?? what do you mean, im always talking directly to the person, they just dont respond so i eventually just hang up, and then they call me back, but usually not for some time, which i find odd
Metatron_Fallen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never take my phone with me so that would be accurate.
Nunbarsegunu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
System standard greeting. Always.
BevansDesign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hi, I'm not answering my phone right now, for at least one of a variety of reasons. Deal with it. You're not my master. I don't need to leap to attention every time someone decides to call me. Also, don't leave a message. What is this, the '80s?"
Actually, come to think of it, thanks to Google Voice, I don't think I've actually listened to a voicemail in years. I just read the transcriptions it sends me.
NonaSuomi282 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking this. And I'm so grateful.
At the same time, it makes me seethe at those insipid people who leave a message which consists entirely of "Hi, this is soandso, call me." Like, motherfucker, you took the time to call my phone so clearly you wanted to communicate; at least give me some idea what's going on so I can properly prioritize calling you back. Is my mother in the hospital? I'll be dropping everything to call back ASAP, so you better fucking say so. Just want to shoot the shit and talk my ear off for an hour and a half? Fuck that, send me an email or text.
corso923 ยท 10517 points ยท Posted at 17:07:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Referring to letters as uppercase or lowercase is terminology from when the printing press was still used. Each letter was a die that had to be placed in a frame, inked, and pressed on the paper. These letter dies were stored in drawers or cases. Capital letters were in the top drawers (upper case) and lower case letters were in the bottom drawers.
Also, a lot of tools in photoshop (burn, dodge, mask) are named for the dark room processes that would have had the same effect.
Edit: A lot of you are asking what lower case letters were called before that. I didnโt include it because I hadnโt heard another term for them before; but a number of comments are saying the terms used to be minuscule and majuscule.
mruehle ยท 3246 points ยท Posted at 19:49:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term โclichรฉโ derived from the practice of pre-setting common phrases in type and sticking them together (clichรฉ en franรงais) so it would speed up the process of setting the page. โPeople say it so often, it has become a clichรฉ.โ
discountErasmus ยท 2472 points ยท Posted at 20:13:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Clichรฉ" was actually onomonopaeic for the sound made when making a stereotype, a block of text set in metal. So, in the original printer's French, clichรฉ and stereotype meant the same thing, but they took on different but related metaphorical meanings and lost the originals.
StrungCheese ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 20:21:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I'm not sure who to believe. It's now up to my own personal biases to choose which origin story fits my narrative better. Yours speaks to the simplicity in humans and our innate ability to misunderstand or even misconstrue words or actions of others we don't fully understand, instead of assuring we have received their message precisely as intended. For that reason, I choose you!
Cato_theElder ยท 186 points ยท Posted at 20:45:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're both right, /u/discountErasmus just elaborated on /u/mruehle 's post. The technical printing term for "pre-setting common phrases in type and sticking them together" was, indeed, "stereotyping."
Here is an article from the Oxford English Dictionary on the subject.
Furthermore, Carthage must be destroyed.
StrungCheese ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 20:51:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And with this, we know the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Would you please enlighten me with a tl;dr on why Cato the Elder would want Carthage destroyed?
Cato_theElder ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 21:09:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fighting in the Punic Wars leaves an impression.
Furthermore, Carthage must be destroyed.
Strongly_O_Platypus ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:06:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two Punic Wars against Carthage, Romans donโt like Carthage very much. Last time, they got damn close to conquering Italy. So, Cato wanted to ensure no more wars against Carthage by removing their capability to exist. Ergo, Carthago delenda est.
blazin_chalice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:30:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hannibal's legacy stands as one of the foremost in generalship to this day. Fortune smiled on Rome, but Hannibal's name invoked fear in the hearts of generations of Romans.
mr_ewe ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:24:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, the first origin story would make "the" the most cliche word in the English language!
StrungCheese ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another valid point! I wonder if u/mruehle can support his claim.
mruehle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:41:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the Wikipedia entryf for โclichรฉโ, under โoriginโ:
โIn printing, "clichรฉ" came to mean a stereotype, electrotype or cast plate or block reproducing words or images that would be used repeatedly.โ
It wouldnโt be used for a three-letter word like โtheโ, which is pretty quick to pull from the case.
I used to hand-set lead type and do letterpress printing on an old hand press in my garage, so old printing terminology is familiar to me. I used to wince a little when I saw โfontโ used to refer to an entire typeface or even a type family, but Iโm mostly over it now. ๐ฌ
StrungCheese ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:02:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate the assumption that I know "font" is not supposed to refer to entire typeface, however I'm unfortunately undereducated when it's comes to historic and obsolete letterpress-printing lingo. What does "font" mean and how do we now use it incorrectly?
mruehle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:14:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A font is a full set of characters of a specific typeface (e.g. Baskerville) in a certain size (e.g. 12 points) and a certain style (e.g. Roman, or Italic, or Condensed). If you were a printer youโd buy a set of metal type sufficient to set a page of text in it. Old newspapers did not have a lot of variation in sizes or styles and rarely had what we would recognize as headlines because it was expensive and bulky to have a lot of fonts on hand.
A recent post I saw bemoaned the way Hollywood movies always show old newspapers with flashy headlines like โJack the Ripper Strikes Againโ in huge type, whereas newspapers back in the day were actually a dense mass of small print, usually with advertisements and notices all over the front page.
Lurkers-gotta-post ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...So, the internet pre-electricity then?
Gars0n ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:23:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it helps the second one is how I've always heard the origin told.
StrungCheese ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:41:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username implies possibility of French heritage, I'm even more convinced. Merci, garรงon.
Volgin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:46:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am french, he is right. Clichรฉ is also a word for picture in in french since it's also the sound the old cameras made.
DanYHKim ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:13:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! You uncovered another 'old use' word! "Snapshot"
of course, digital cameras can make the sound of a shutter snapping, but the original mechanism no longer exists.
niamhish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:38:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The second one was on an episode of QI so I'd go with that one. ๐
lejefferson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to politics in the USA.
AcceptablePariahdom ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:37:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a word-nerd this thread is the best thing to happen to me in like a week
Hyro0o0 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:05:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, word-nerd, did you know that Dr. Seuss invented the word 'nerd'?
DanYHKim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:14:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to look for the podcast "Lexicon Valley". It has several word-origin episodes.
TheElbow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:31:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You, sir/madam, just blew my fucking nerdy mind.
AlexanderTheGrave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: onomatopoeia is actually onomatopoeic because whenever you say it, it makes that sound.
kryonik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's very stereotypical of the French.
Initial_E ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So Clichรฉ == autocomplete in todayโs terms. TIL.
merecido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mind blown. This is why I love Reddit!
mdawson_96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That explains why in French, the term clichรฉ is a synonym of stereotype.
BeepBeeepBeepBeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You and your friend u/mruehle have given me the most interesting thing that TIL. Head them off at the past to you!
paragbhtngr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A fellow fan of QI?
razikh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
onomonopaea..
ayyyylalamamao ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:09:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BS
checkwarrantystatus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:54:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old school ctrl+v!
luke_in_the_sky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with "stereotype". It was a printing plate used to duplicate any typography. Then it became metaphor for an "image perpetuated without change"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype_(printing)
lostfinch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I just have keys for that.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, is this related to the term "boilerplate"?
mruehle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old newspapers would receive entire articles that wer pre-set on a single heavy metal plate that could be dropped into a layout as-is. Subscribing to a syndicated service was a way to fill the page with news cheaply. It was called โboilerplateโ because it looked like a piece of thick, heavy metal from a steam boiler. Originally it meant the actual plate, but later it would be used to describe any piece of text that was standardized and prepared in advance, like a description of a company or a piece of legal text.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:09 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! That is an interesting bit of history. When I first heard the term, I thought it was related to the phrase "set in stone". That is, wording that is impressed into an unchanging format. But this makes much more sense, and relates to an actual business practice.
POGtastic ยท 579 points ยท Posted at 19:39:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Italic type was invented in Venice.
syncsynchalt ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:43:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the alternative to italic is roman. It's all Italian.
Swagmaster_Kyle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:43:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So Times New Roman in italics is Times New Italic?
__rosebud__ ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:13:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's somehow not surprising.
ctilvolover23 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:30:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is it not surprising?
southave ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 20:32:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Venice is in Italy
shadelz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:35:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CESAR IS IN ITALY!!!!!
fuckwatergivemewine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:32:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was cesar salad invented in like rome?
shadelz ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:34:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No the salad was named after the guy who made it. His name? Caesar Cardini
fuckwatergivemewine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:38:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds pretty italian to me
shadelz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he was also Italian. so.. CESAR IS IN ITALLYYYYYY
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but Cardini's restaurant was in Tijuana, Mexico.
AntiChangeling ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:07:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly enough, this was not the case at the time of the invention of Italic type. Venice was its own republic for much of history, and only became part of a unified Italy in 1866 following over half a century of Austrian rule.
MonsterRider80 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:21:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely right! However Venice was always understood to be in the geographic area known as Italy. Itโs a complicated thing, to separate the peninsula of Italy from the nation state of Italy.
HouseFareye ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but historically Venice was never considered part of Italy. It's not on the Italian peninsula and was its own republic until the 1860s. The idea of one unified Italian nation-state is a modern invention. Even now "Italians" will often describe themselves not as Italians but rather from the city or region of the historical city-state they are from (i.e. Milanese, Neopolitan, Venetian, etc).
southave ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:48:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheGreatZarquon ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:26:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Venice is a city in Italy. Italy also has the Leaning Tower of Pisa. Both the Leaning Tower and italic font are at a different angle from everything else around them. Italian writers wanted a way to differentiate important text from regular text, looked at the Leaning Tower and thought, "that'll do."
ctilvolover23 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:39:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh okay. It all makes sense now.
apresmodes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:32:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because italic is close to italy
ctilvolover23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay.
Azrael351 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:58:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bold was invented by Frito-Lay to describe intense Dorito flavors
makoto20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a BOLDfaced truth.
llewkeller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still call it "typeface." Oh, that's right - we call it "font" now.
liontamarin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Font originally meant (and can still mean) the casting of metal: movable metal type, after all.
Plus font and typeface do not always mean the same thing.
pog7776 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice username
Lil-Miss-Anthropy ยท 529 points ยท Posted at 19:53:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And before "uppercase" and "lowercase," letters were referred to as minuscule and majuscule.
DR_Hero ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 20:12:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was wondering about that. It's still that way in Spanish.
sekva ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:14:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Portuguese also!
NeokratosRed ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:47:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Italian too!
epwnym ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:35:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
French as well.
Aururian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:52:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Romanian too!
funkyjunk69 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:48:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess the English just weren't as Romantic
sad_butterfly_tattoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say in latin-based languages, also in French if I remember correctly
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:48:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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sad_butterfly_tattoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:51:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I know. I guess what I actually wanted to write was along the lines of "i think this terms are common to most latin-based languages, which french is an additional example of". But I was damn tired so I make no sense
kalasoittaja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:33 on April 7, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It makes sense! But the second version is ever the clearer.
Valmond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in French.
johnmedgla ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:04:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Minuscule, though I make that mistake all the time. It's still a word you encounter, meaning tiny.
Lil-Miss-Anthropy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:29:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, thank you!! Fixed!
PointyOintment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Miniscule means tiny.
johnmedgla ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:33:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite yet.
I suspect most people hear it on TV before they ever see it written down, and their brain connects it to mini instead of the Latin minus (lesser).
RoboJesus4President ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:18:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still applies in French and Romanian.
BlueRoseImmortal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:29:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Italian too. In all of the Neo Latin languages, I think.
Bendybabe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:51:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally just learned from watching Kirstie's Handmade Christmas that 'Uppercase' and 'Lowercase' came from the cases (ie: the drawers) the printer kept the letters in.
giantJim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:24:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Majuscule and minuscule are still used in french. Didn't know it was also used in english.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The technical term, yes. But in regular conversation the letters were simply referred to as either "big" or "little".
cibina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still the case in portuguese
FreeInformation4u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But which case? Upper or lower?
cibina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
none of them, its maiuscula or minuscula
2Thousand8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Danish, we just call them "big" and "small". I guess that sounds pretty retarded compared to everyone else.
remuladgryta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have the words "versaler" and "gemener" across the pond? In Sweden most people say "stora" and "smรฅ" bokstรคver, but "versaler" and "gemener" is used too.
2Thousand8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If memory serves, those terms do ring a bell from grammar school, but no one actually calls them that.
Michaelis_Maus ยท 181 points ยท Posted at 19:45:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed.
And the die used to stamp the lettering to the paper were made from pieces called sorts, which would get used and worn out over the course of printing, often leaving a printer "out of sorts" by the end of a day.
It was often the more ornate letters that would show this wear-and-tear first, leading to the common advice that one ought to "mind their P's and Q's" in order to properly maintain their printing presses.
T3KN0KRAT ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:29:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understood that "mind your Ps and Qs" referred to a bartender notifying its patrons that the police are arriving: "Mind your Pints and Quarts",... as another way of saying "just keep your mind on your own business"
MikeTheInfidel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:20:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. That makes much more sense; I always thought it meant "keep track of how much you've had to drink." Keeping your nose down and minding your business is very British indeed.
Volaktil ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:27:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Minding the P's and the Q's refers to paying extra attention to those letters when you're lining them on the press since the print will be inverted.
Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:45 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't q's have a tail on them?
Volaktil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:00 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not lowcase...that's why they get mixed up with the p's
Killa-Byte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:31 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lowercase q has a rightward tail on the end of it. At least in my writing.
Volaktil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:48 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which font do you use? I use Aramaic sans-sheriff
Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:57 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm talking about my handwriting, not on fonts. In every font ive seen, q is just a backwards p
mrjawright ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:12:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then why not "mind your b's and d's"? Or "mind your M's and W's"?
Pretty sure the people citing bartenders reminding the servers to mind their pints and quarts is correct.
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:46:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It has been used to "mind your pints and quarts," but the earliest recorded usage of it has to do with the actual letters.
That doesn't mean bartenders don't use it in that manner, it just means that it had a different meaning originally, and was adopted by bartenders to have another.
dongasaurus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:59:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
qpqpqpqpqpqpqpqpqp: That's why
mrjawright ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dbdbdbdbdbdbdbdbdb I fail to see your point
dongasaurus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:45:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is, it is what it is because it is what it was.
mrjawright ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I know I will never have access to a time machine. I wouldn't waste time killing Hitler, I would be travelling through time documenting the hell out of everything so conversations like this would never have happened.
Yesitmatches ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:27:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think P's and Q's is more about running a bar tab, or minding your Pints and Quarts.
chocolate_on_toast ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:19:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought"mind your Ps and Qs" was just because a small child attempting to say Please and Thank you sounds like "peas" and "nkyoo". It's basically telling the kid to remember to be polite.
iluvstephenhawking ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:40:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes a lot of sense.
HEpennypackerNH ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:08:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So uppercase = Capital, but lowercase = what?
dnqboy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:13:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's what i wanted to know
Bendybabe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Posted this above but literally just learned this 10 minutes ago from watching Kirstie's Handmade Christmas that 'Uppercase' and 'Lowercase' comes from the cases(ie: the drawers) the printer kept the letters in. Capital letters were kept in the top drawer (the uppercase) and little letters in the other drawer (the lowercase)
chemical_toilet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:17:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
miniscule and majuscule
imail724 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:21:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So majuscule = Capital, but miniscule = what?
hesitantmaneatingcat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:30:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the opposite of a capital letter is just the name of the letter. So "a" or "capital A". Informally it's "little a" or "small a". I have no idea if that is common, but that's how we spell things out loud round these parts when you're a kid and don't have time for that "upper case" "lower case" mumbo jumbo.
NeokratosRed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
town /s
yepthatguy2 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:18:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computers have made it so much easier to edit photographs. Using a lasso in the darkroom was always quite the adventure.
QuestionAxer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or using the magic wand in a darkroom. the manual tolerance adjustment would've killed me.
badgers_can_be_gay ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:58:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs really useful for artists moving between traditional and digital to use traditional terms for both.
SmuggleCats ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:00:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super interesting about the burn, dodge, etc. I always wondered where that came from, but never looked into it much either. It makes a lot of sense!
discountErasmus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:14:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still dodge and burn! Film still gets sold!
chocolate_on_toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get 'burn' and 'mask' as real-world techniques, but how does one 'dodge'?
discountErasmus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You basically cast a shadow over the appropriate area at the appropriate stage.
natlay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you cover the part of your picture that you want to be lighter by blocking the light being cast on to the photo paper by the enlarger. Since the paper is photosensitive, it becomes darker when exposed to light. If you cover part of the light source for a few seconds out of however long you're exposing your photo paper for, the covered sections will be lighter!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people still use those tools in actual dark rooms?
LT_DANS_ICECREAM ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:12:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Dodging and burning specifically are techniques used when exposing a print. Dodging is when you cover up a section of the print to lessen its exposure and keep that area of the paper lighter, and burning is the opposite effect. You expose that area longer and make it darker.
thesun_alsorises ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:14:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people still do traditional photography with dark rooms for art and stuff.
foreignfishes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes- you can literally just use a piece of cardstock (or anything stiff and opaque) with a hole in it to burn prints under the enlarger. Dodging is the opposite, it's generally done with a shape on a thin stick or wire to block light from the part you're dodging.
webtwopointno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get the Lead out!
Pkron17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, but then if the real word for upper case letters is Capital, what is the real word for lower case letters?
Dogbin005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Commune.
Like capitalism and communism. Ehh, I'm sure there's a joke in that idea somewhere.
Erratic85 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only named, but the icons are shaped after the actual tools or procedures, like burn with the hole in the hand and dodge with the patch in a wire.
Here's a video of them techniques in use, masking too.
QuestionAxer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap, that video was amazing. Thanks for sharing. I never wondered why the burn icon was a hand shielding itself, but they were literally blocking the light from exposing the photograph. DAMN. Same with the feathering technique for a masked selection...jesus that guy was awesome.
unimaginative2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:43:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just learnt this fact at EXACTLY the same time as a guy on the TV explains it to Kirsty Alsop on Kirstys hand made Christmas.. (UK TV show)
agilek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:56:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lettercase: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DATj6_AWAAAkFE3.jpg
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:35:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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thestickystickman ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 20:02:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs wrong. A typewriterโs keys shifted. Still archaic though.
Red580 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:47:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you just blew my mind. Nope, it's still there, nice fact though
indigo121 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 19:59:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's wrong though. It was about shifting the typewriter keys up or down
Burritozi11a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
N-NANIII!?!?
PepsiSheep ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair to Photoshop and similar apps, you use those tools to replicate real world/practical effects so it makes sense for these tools to have those names... I mean the same software has a lasso tool! :)
5EADEDB06749 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL, thanks
Volaktil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still use dark rooms and film
TimothyGonzalez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's lots of terms from typography that stem from the days of letterpress. "Leading", for example, used to be little bits of lead used to space out letters.
moderate-painting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that too. "The press" means newspapers now.
irelayer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap I had no idea! This makes so much sense! Enjoy your gold.
corso923 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, thanks!
BenevolentCheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What were the letters called before the advent of the printing press? Uppercase and lowercase have existed longer than that.
mrssupersheen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well uppercase are also called Capitals.
imail724 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If upper case = capital, then lower case = ???
UserDev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what is the term for lower case? I'll try to incorporate capital letters more often, just need the opposite term.
uppercasewords ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The subservient masses don't deserve titles.
rsn1990 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:35 on January 10, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
papercranium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
minuscule
KeisariFLANAGAN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likewise, a "clichรฉ" was originally an onomatopoeia referring to the sound made by placing blocks of common letters/words/phrases in the press that French printers had formed to save time
ShinyMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mind your p's and q's" also has its roots in printing presses. Since they are mirrors of each other, when you needed a q, it will look to you like a letter p.
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...and those Photoshop tools are often representing real-world physical effects, such as light "burning" an image onto photo paper, or "dodging" the light, or "masking" the paper from the light.
ChiefGraypaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This fact is interesting because even in the example you give, you refer to upper case letters as capital letters, but lower case letters have nothing else to be called. What did they call lower case letters before that?
fritzbitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah typography is full of those old terms.
bellhalla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โUppercaseโ and โlowercaseโ basically supplanted the previous terms of โmajusculeโ and โminusculeโ, respectively.
KittenPics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed that you didn't have another word for lower case. I wonder what it was called before printing.
Chrysoarrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Photoshop is also literally named after the photoshop where photos got processed.
natlay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm proud of myself for actually knowing the photo one, since I still develop film for my photography class and have just recently had to burn and dodge some prints for my final. Also, filters. There's actual contrast filters we put in the enlarger to change the contrast of our prints. Basically, photo filters are actual physical objects, not just instagram effects!
aybabtu88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity, what were the equivalent terms for upper/lower case prior to the printing press?
lxkrycek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Minuscule and majuscule are the french for upper and lower cases.
piemandotcom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Spanish they are called minรบscula and mayรบscula
tattooedBetty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
news flash, PRINTING presses are still used. How do you think they make then newspaper and magazines and labels on cans of food? You meant "typesetting". Edit: a word
MrsHatChief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is also where the phrase "mind your P's and Q's" comes from as obviously backwards they appear like each other so those who printed in this way had to be careful (not sure how common this phrase is internationally but we use it in the UK as a way of saying "mind your language")
Hollra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly the phrase "wrong end of the stick' is from printing and refers to when a type setter would accidentally forget to reverse a line (stick) of lettering they had prepared. When this happened it was because they had literally started at "the wrong end of the stick'"
sicmaggot21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe a term the simpletons called it was small
JerpJerps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And before that they were referred to left pile and right pile letters
toxicgecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Majuscule and minuscule isn't as snappy though
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is minรบsculas and majusculas in Spanish still.
yerlemismyname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Spanish we say minรบscula and mayรบscula
Bearmodulate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a lot like this with printing. Spacing between lines is known to designers as "leading", this word comes from the practice of putting different sizes of lead bars between the lines of type when typesetting
cloud9ineteen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Small letter and capital letter is what we heard growing up.
orbitalfreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine if the trays had been reversed.
THIS WOULD BE LOWERCASE
this would be uppercase.
It just feels...wrong.
danhakimi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? Don't you have to reach the lower case a lot more often?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got to see this sort of thing a long time ago. My ex had an uncle who owned an old printing company but he had retired and simply locked the doors leaving everything just the way it was. It was pretty cool to see all the letters and the press. I have no idea what his intentions were for that business but I'm sure he's dead by now.
Aging_Shower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh neat I've wondered this before. In Sweden we just say small and big letters.
Fraerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a multi-email conversation with a developer trying to explain what I meant by specifying that values in a specific field had to be in uppercase.
alias_smith_jones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leading - or line spacing - was sluggs of lead between lines of type.
price101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
minuscule and majuscule is French
Mantisbog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but I mean it still makes sense because upper case are bigger and reach the upper parts of the line.
equuusferuscaballus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taking a darkroom class made a lot of Photoshops tools, processes, and layouts six hundred percent easier to understand.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. I had no idea. Learned something today.
JoseJimeniz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uppercase and lowercase letters:
Uppercase and lowercase numbers:
https://i.imgur.com/khDBXvQ.png
woodspryte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I didn't know that.
InfiniteBlink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did they call big letters and little letters
tanman334 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I, too, watch Vsauce.
Apollo_Carthage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In other languages (the one im familiar with is french) miniscule and majiscule are still the terms.
CoralineCastell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Portuguese we use "Maiรบscula" and "Minรบscula" for uppercase and lowercase respectively.
ghos_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Minuscule and majuscule is how we call it in Spanish.
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did they call lowercase letters before then? Non-capital?
lntoTheSky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That explanation of upper case/lower case is hella interesting. I always that it was because the letters were simply larger, and therefore were up or above the smaller, lower case letters.
I think the tools of photoshop are named as they are for the early adopters of the first editions of photoshop who almost certainly came from the dark room. Since then, not really any reason to change it if people understand what the tool is/does. Then again, you could say the same thing about every word in this thread!
Sirefly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still call it "typing" when we don't use the printing dies called 'type'.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Peripherally related: There's a great video on the last day of Linotype typesetting at the NY Times (https://aeon.co/videos/the-last-day-of-hot-metal-press-before-computers-come-in-at-the-new-york-times). It's called "Farewell, etaoin shrdlu"
EitSanHurdm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Majuscule and minuscule are the technical terms for upper and lower case glyphs in typesetting btw
LHOOQatme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Portuguese rendering of those are the current words for lower case and upper case in Brazil.
whydog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still called miniscule and majuscule in Spanish
Minรบscula and mayรบscula
DoubleExists ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the english language is so much older than print industry?
HappyHarpy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We also get leading from the strips of lead. Em- (as in em dash) is still used in typography and web design - and comes from the width of the letter M.
RandomlyConsistent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still remember my California job case:
Be Careful Driving Elephants Into Small Foreign Garages
Lice Mice Nice Heist Oh You Pretty Wart Comma
Vampires Use Teeth, 3EM Spaces, And Rifles
...there is more, but those are the three major lines.
AUniquePerspective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling them Capital letters is even older though. Originally it was just an all-caps font that was the standard font in use in Rome, the Capital. It's the one you can still see carved into stuff all the time and there's no V, just a U that looks like a V. You'd never mix a majuscule font with a minuscule one in ancient Rome.
UnexpectedNickelback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Brazil it's still "minusculo" and "maiusculo"
XenoDrake ยท 365 points ยท Posted at 17:16:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People on youtube thanking you for "tuning in"....
[deleted] ยท 233 points ยท Posted at 20:58:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ThePortalsOfFrenzy ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:39:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically it references the nickname of television being "the tube". Of course, that nickname was derived from the picture tube, the main component of a television set, as you've pointed out.
KlingonAdmiral ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:54:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself. I still have a CRT TV.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:08:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My old friend's dad has the CRT he got as a wedding present (early 90s) still running in his garage!
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Korean?
KlingonAdmiral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
German
HardlightCereal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know Germany had many pro gamers.
KlingonAdmiral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just no reason for me to ever upgrade. TV is a dead medium.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first television my family had was one that had tubes in the back. When one burned out you simply went to the local store and bought a new one.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:32:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm not mistaken, the picture tube itself was a large, specialized vacuum tube. That was why they had the 'exaggerated rounded corners' referenced above.
3_14159td ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:59:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rounded corners is from the shape of the tube and manufacturing technology at the time. The actual aspect ratio of the logo comes from the 4:3 ratio of televisions. I have 4:3 CRTs with sharp corners and a 16:9 PVM CRT with rounded corners.
techcaleb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great. I guess I'll have to stop making the "you can tune a radio but you can't tuna fish" joke.
NeedyButtress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related. YouTube is also the replacement for public access tv. These were usually a low channel on cable that was open to public use and people would broadcast all kinds of crazy โshowsโ on that channel. YouTube is basically the internet equivalent.
If my meaning wasnโt very clear watch the movie Wayneโs World. Which is about a show on public access tv.
[deleted] ยท 30835 points ยท Posted at 14:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
ChickenFarmer ยท 16563 points ยท Posted at 15:31:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or to "dial" a number.
silentninja79 ยท 6144 points ยท Posted at 18:29:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My middle daughter (9) insists on using the term "back forward" instead of "rewind". I am thinking of demoting her from second child to third.
Timeworm ยท 3649 points ยท Posted at 20:33:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really weird because there's an actual word for "back forward", backward.
silentninja79 ยท 2379 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know right, she is the one that i fell asleep feeding and dropped her off the side of the bed though, so figures really.
[deleted] ยท 3138 points ยท Posted at 20:40:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just drop her again and it should back forward her to normal
potatan ยท 742 points ยท Posted at 20:41:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean "re-mote her"
DressingRanch ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:03:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He never should have moted her in the first place.
LoneRangerLong ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:18:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mate-mote-maten?
oxygenfrank ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:13:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's the same as pre-rewinding
RDCAIA ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:18:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reboot? Or would that only work if she had been kicked instead of dropped?
sexy_bartender ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap is that what remote means?!
rageak49 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:53:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's just one of those things that proves that the english language makes no sense.
Remote is a regular word that means far away, demote and promote have prefixes. But also the word 'mote' means something entirely different.
useSwordOnTroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back-forward, weve gone through this...
Tauposaurus ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:47:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you know, on the other side this time.
Matt3989 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:57:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
veeeSix ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:03:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Figures, her umbilical cord was unplugged. Brb.
Chifrijos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:11:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, Op should actually throw her from the floor onto the bed.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:01:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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iamjomos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Falls in a well, eyes go crossed. She gets kicked by a mule, they go back to normal.
N0V0w3ls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"iunno..."
Ghstfce ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:59:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just make sure you're on the other side of the bed to correct the issue, don't want to double the damage and make her worse.
LoneRangerLong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is because of you guys that they still have child safety laws.
UnexpectedGollum ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:08:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if percussive maintanence works with children. Have you tried confusing it with a logic bomb you then never explain? That usually reboots its cognitors.
CoachHouseStudio ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:28:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learnt that from the Flintstones. When Fred gets hit on the head by a bowling ball and becomes his 'posh' alter ego 'Frederick' he needs another 'bash to the noggin' to turn back.
It's handy advice. 100% scientifically proven and medically accurate! I've used it many times to restore the personality of my brother.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds logical to me. Do it.
INathanFTW ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:46:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comment made my night one reddit silver to you sir
s6884 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need gold for you
Arsenault185 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Little percussive maintenance oughtta do it!
iamjomos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Falls in a well, eyes go crossed. She gets kicked by a mule, they go back to normal."
Eirineftis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just burst out laughing on the quiet floor of my library. Thanks for that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
CelestialButterflies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't forget to say, "Eyyy"
Chinlc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no no no no. You gotta drop her on the other side. So if you dropped her on the back of the head, drop her on the front to make it even
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it's time to test these theories. Do you have any toddlers?
DharmaCub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure it's on the opposite side you dropped her on originally though
coleyboley25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like hitting the side of the tv to fix it.
Pickled_Wizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hard reboot.
gsfgf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Percussive maintenance
Claxamazoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an ER Nurse.
I can confirm that this is exactly what we would do in a clinical setting.
TuckersMyDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hard reset
BenedickCabbagepatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off the other side of the bed, though, or else she'll just regress further
Alcarinque88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just make sure it's on the other side. That way everything falls back into place instead of farther in the wrong direction.
JCSandt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It has to be the other side of the bed.
LordAmras ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:06:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not your fault you can be careful with the first one, two tops. Then you realize they are actually more resistant than you thought and don't worry as much.
silentninja79 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:12:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best bit was after the initial shock and awe campaign of anger and rage perpetrated by the wife in the immediate aftermath of the "event". I was deemed not trustworthy of night feeds for a week so jackpot!.
LordAmras ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:15:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guilt begins when you start thinking: " if I drop her another Time I could maybe get two weeks off.."
silentninja79 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:19:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No chance i think without doubt that split second of half awake and realisation of what had happend was the single most scary moment of my life and I have been shot at and woken by incoming IDF without a similar level of panic.
awry_lynx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:23:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I know what you mean... I dropped my laptop open face-down once...
OraDr8 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Laughed too hard at this! Just back undrop her.
Hugh_G_Wrekshin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Listen, she's going to have enough of a complex about being a middle child.
alwaysrelephant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:33:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man I'm glad my parents don't/didn't have Reddit accounts.
PierogiD ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:45:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to get her kicked in the head by a mule to uncross those eyes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/UnexpectedChristmasVacation
floatingwithobrien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mom
grumflick ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 23:14:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a disgusting way to talk about someone you love. Even though this is just a joke, it makes me really upset. I hope you treat her better throughout her life than the way you are now - making fun of her intelligence and joking about how you dropped her on her head.
You brought her into this world, she did not ask for you as a mother, so you better start respecting her and act like you love her, not insinuating that sheโs dumb to a bunch of strangers on the internet.
silentninja79 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:41:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't you take your massively judgemental and upset self back under the bridge you must hide under.
dontsmokemytrees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did your baby get knocked out when you dropped her on her head, or did she stay awake?
mrweenus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:04:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if there is "fast forward", why didn't we ever use "fast backward"?
ipodpron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Young son calls chocolate milk 'cold chocolate'. Being that he has had 'hot chocolate' i.e. hot cocoa. Can't argue with that logic, so I've started using it as well.
FrauAway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but it's a portmanteau of fast forward and back
robertah1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:00:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but then the pun doesnโt work.
Sheโs think โfast forwardโ to skip ahead, โback forwardโ to skip behind. Itโs assonance.
lkodl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back words
IdiidDuItt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:37:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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PelagianEmpiricist ยท 613 points ยท Posted at 20:11:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell her you're moving her back forward to third position.
tomatoaway ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:53:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but only after back increasing her allowance
PelagianEmpiricist ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:08:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
okay slow down there Satan
Hypothesis_Null ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And raise her chocolate rations from 35g to 25g while you're at it.
SirRogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just think of it as a reverse promotion.
gt4674b ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:58:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. Mine says fast backwards which actually kind of makes sense since the other direction is fast forward.
andtakeanothername ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:51:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My six year old calls it "fast backwards".
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:42:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's already the middle child, that's punishment enough.
iOwnYourFace ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:19:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son, 5, loves using the term "yesternight", even though neither my wife or I have ever used the word. I was going to correct him but it's such a cool word that we just roll with it.
silentninja79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feel free to own up to any head injury you may have accidentally perpetrated as part of my r/redditusersdoscience research into this phenomenon.
Sethodine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:48:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a very common language learning error called "over-generalization". My favorite is "lasterday", which comes from combining the idea of "last night" with "yesterday".
I actually prefer it over the correct phrase: "the-day-before-yesterday"
nokimochi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My oldest might still call it "yesterday before yesterday"...
JakeSmithsPhone ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:47:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have 17 daughters?!?
macboot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fast backward always worked for me, as opposed to fast forward. Annoys the hell of a lot of people
silentninja79 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As part of my scientific study into this sort of thing, do you remember any head trauma as a baby and if so was it a dad related accident.
macboot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough, yes to both. You think they're related? :D
ohnoitsZombieJake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:59:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My colleague's daughter calls ankles "foot elbows"
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:18:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, they're foot wrists.
ohnoitsZombieJake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:06:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IKR!
Harmageddon87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was about to say "how cute" but then i saw the 9
allyson0217 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter says "zip it back". I've told her it's "rewind". She doesn't care.
CleverNameAndNumbers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sounds like newspeak to me.
Spacemanrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Decelerate is used to mean slowing down, but in physics it's just negative acceleration, so your daughter gets it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SLUnatic85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
when it honestly makes more sense, literally, than re-wind?
But I believe the word she is searching for is backward ;)
Shockrates20xx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Middle child to youngest child would be a promotion, generally. I, proudly, am oldest child.
toth42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kinda backwards.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DimeBagJoe2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what does rewind even mean in this context you guys are all talking about? You guys are confusing the shit out of me lol. Do you mean like rewinding a video?
silentninja79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes mate, she uses the term for the "rewinding" of TV shows, films etc digitally.
DimeBagJoe2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hilarious. Can't imagine hearing that haha
KingNandito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that sheโs nine and about to enter junior high is frightening.
silentninja79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, what is frightning is that her family nickname is "the beast". She is a year off secondary school here in the UK and they should be affraid, very affraid.
tue2day ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is your child a member of INGSOC? That's doublespeak.
Heterosexual_Narwhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you my dad? My sister (12) says the exact same thing and it pisses me off beyond measure.
silentninja79 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:40:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Without DNA evidence i am going to have to say no, but was she dropped on her head as a baby?. There is a scientific link you know!. Well i think there is....well maybe, my highly scientific research via this reddit comments section is still in progress.
Heterosexual_Narwhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She has taken multiple hits to the head as a child, yes.
DatabaseGangsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine says โfast forward in reverseโ
Me_Speak_Good ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me laugh. I'm the oldest of three, but we elected my brother the oldest and I've been demoted (?) to 3d.
wizard7926 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you only have two kids, so ouch
bibblybops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter still does this. She says 'Forward it back.' Such a weird take.
irontan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By the time I was 9 I had 3 jobs and had to walk to school uphill both ways. My dad would've kicked me out had I spoke like your child.
ireallydislikepolice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, my sister says the same thing.
makemeking706 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taffythecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine your daughter reading this.
Paddywhacker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just a lie
PolishWonder79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kids say fast backward.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:13:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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PolishWonder79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol like you have friends
Shantotto11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with โsame differenceโ.
LoneRangerLong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't rewind the clock. She stays at number two.
You need to go on a vacation alone to unwind from all this stress
gsfgf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't that be an upgrade from middle child, though?
Do_trolls_dream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why doesn't she just say backward?
Trick85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naw, just sell her into child slavery. Then you'll have money, less overhead, and your other children will learn that you're not to be trifled with.
Ms_OHara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine says fast backward and I never correct her.
justforkix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was funny! I'm going to use it.
Siduss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to say forward rewind instead of fast forward.
quantumzak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever since Monk said it I use "Picture go back." "Picture go fast." and "Picture go regular."
Dany_Heatley05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But she's already the middle child which is the shittiest position anyway.
Leaislala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's cute!
867530niyain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My step brother says reverse
Dorianselfie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You reminded me of a phrase I hear in Spanish by Cubans when they tell you that they will call you back: โTe llamo pa trasโ instead of โTe devuelvo la llamada.โ โPara atrรกsโ means in back/ to the back. So they are saying they will call you in back/ at the back and it sounds super weird and awkward.
mankiller27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both my younger sisters did this as well. I really don't understand the logic.
Rdubdanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In our house we have the " head kid". Once you are the head kid you get to ride in an open front seat and you are head kid until you do something stupid, and you also get to delegate tasks as long as you do it fairly. At that point you are demoted and a new head kid takes over based on recent behaviors.
30footfall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. We can demote our kids?
0Kysh0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean you want to "back promote" her?
Pinkymouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine prefers โmore back.โ She is 2.
dmbbv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kids say โfast backward.โ Opposite of โfast forward,โ I guess.
watsonad2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the just the age that getting vhs movies was on its last breath, and had dvds for most of my child hood, and rewinding tapes was a thing for watching movies for family gatherings was a thing for me
DontOpenTilXmas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should demote her to foster care.
straydog1980 ยท 5855 points ยท Posted at 15:47:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or that bendy bone thing that symbolises a phone
or a home phone number
cwall1 ยท 575 points ยท Posted at 19:49:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the save icon being a floppy disc.
I have Photoshop open right now, and all the icons for different tools are steeped in deep history and tradition. The dodge and burn tools for instance represent real implements photographers would use when exposing negatives.
Edit: Just scrolled a little further down and someone has said this one already of course
AhoyThereFancypants ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:14:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a lecturer tell me that his younger students referred to it as the "Honda sign". They knew nothing about floppy disks, but had to make an understandable reference to what icon to click when they wanted to save.
The_Quibbler ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:24:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was thinking about this recently, but what other icon would you use? A cloud?
Skithiryx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:06:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At one point I saw it being replaced with an arrow to a hard drive, but as devices move away from PCs thatโs also not a good solution.
Internet_Adventurer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does Honda relate to a picture of a floppy disc?
kamomil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:54:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess the white label and metal shutter, look like the negative space parts of an H
AhoyThereFancypants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It resembles the H of that logo in some applications.
Max_Thunder ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:21:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, there's probably an older thread just like this one where everything that's being said has been said already.
It's like watching a rerun. Wait, do kids even know what a rerun is nowadays?
PoiLethe ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:41:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A rerun is when you marathon a series after your first initial watch, right? S/
BrotherRangale ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:56:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's the word called for this type of symbolism? I forgot
cwall1 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:59:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just say the wrong term and someone will be along in a minute to correct you. That's Poe's Law
Galaxy_Ranger_Bob ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:15:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, I thought that Poe's law was not being able to determine if a comment is made by a conservative, or someone pretending to be a...
Wait a minute! I see what you did there.
cwall1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:)
Still hasn't worked though
BrotherRangale ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:03:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In that case the word is retrosymbolism
f15k13 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:07:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOU'RE WRONG!!! The correct term is retrosymbolism.
BrotherRangale ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn
PointyOintment ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related to skeuomorphism
BrotherRangale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TY
Rubberfootman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:41:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You say that, but photoshop and illustrator feature a scalpel icon, and I never go to work (as a graphic designer) without an actual scalpel.
flargenhargen ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:05:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as a former graphic designer, I know exactly what you mean.
Bitches don't steal my bagels from the breakroom anymore either!
Rubberfootman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:09:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was more worried about the blunt blades I usually encounter - but, er, Iโll agree to whatever you say. Please donโt cut me.
TomasTTEngin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:49:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
related, the fact that the symbol for pressing play is an arrow. (see the youtube logo)
comes from cassette tapes, which could go left or right.
wildgift ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:40:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cassette recorders had only the rightward facing arrow.
Reel-to-reel recorders had left and right arrows.
Both had the double-arrows for fast forward and rewind.
kamomil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pen tool, as a tool to create Bezier curves, is kind of a loose approximation though. A rubber band might have been a better representation.
When I learned Avid editing, all of the tools and menu items, related in some analogous way to physical tape editing. I set in and out points and I was fine. I felt that it was designed for people who were familiar with older technology
cwall1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. In a lot of ways I hope the older tech stays around; at least for photoshop it enhances and enriches my experience to work with the actual tools and mediums while learning the program's functions.
Shadesbane43 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:23:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They didn't use those tools when exposing negatives. You use a camera for that. They used them when developing negatives and making prints.
natural_ac ยท 4029 points ยท Posted at 16:05:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bendy bone thing"....haha. You mean the rotary phone ear piece? Hahaha. That's hilarious. The bendy bone thing is something I, hopefully, will never forget.
PM_Me_Rude_Haiku ยท 1105 points ยท Posted at 16:17:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Call for natural_ac. Please make your way to the nearest red bendy bone thing.
infered5 ยท 919 points ยท Posted at 16:39:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Collect call for Robert Comepickusupfrombillyshouseatnine, will you accept?
AyeYoDisRon ยท 771 points ยท Posted at 18:01:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wehadababyitsaboy!
Ezymandius ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 20:57:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was younger we'd make collect calls to people but use the spanish option for the message, and then state our name as "For English, Dial 1".
"1" was the number to accept, but since it was the only thing in English, they had no idea they were accepting.
Also, great reference.
Why_is_this_so ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:09:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old school /r/madlads shit right here.
Beach_Shoes ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 19:29:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my favorite commercials ever. Thanks for being the other person to remember this one.
Sharpevil ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:40:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other person? I've probably heard it referenced in 3 separate places over the last month.
trixtopherduke ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:47:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is red and bendy will never die.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:54:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SpunkMasterPepe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But mah allegations.
WhiteMike87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friends and I say it quite often.
WcCannons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you my wife?
ChadOhman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, now get back to work hunny.
WcCannons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wife doesnt call me hunny.
You'z an imposter!
boost_poop ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:33:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there are literally TENS of us!
feirnt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make that ELEVENS!
OnlyHunan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew you'd go there.
bipnoodooshup ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:19:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I liked the early cell phone commercial where dude takes his girlfriend to a Mexican restaurant and gets the Mariachi band to sing โAye, aye ya yaye, Susie I want a cellphoneโ
BravoR2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Only 90s kids will remember this."
compwiz1202 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:46:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to love to say the pay phone# then they decline and dial that # and the pay phone would ring :D
WcCannons ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:08:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I referenced this last Saturday to my wife. What a great commercial.
For what? I dont know.
Why_is_this_so ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:08:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was for a long distance service. Sprint, or MCI, or something. Which, in and of itself, is a weirdly antiquated notion in 2017.
bluesox ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:29:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1-800-COLLECT?
Redbird9346 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:51:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're both wrong. It's an ad from GEICO.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:04:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Save money the legal way! Call Geico!
frotc914 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pity the fool that don't use 1800COLLECT!
BTC_Brin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. It was a Geico commercial.
34HoldOn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For an added bonus, that commercial uses stock audio for the hospital PA which was old by the time that commercial was filmed. You can hear it on Queensryche's album "Operation:Mindcrime" on the intro track "I Remember Now"
AtariDump ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:55:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey hun, who was that?
SirRogers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bob. They had a baby. Its a boy.
I_am_Bob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sure did
nats15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bula vinaka seaside
34HoldOn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my buddies in high school introduced himself in the senior video with that.
ass2ass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's ironic is that if they actually took the time to dial up one specific friend and tell them that you had a baby it's probably a lot more personal than you'll get with most people these days.
Kaarsty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just about peed my pants reading that
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex did that when I gave birth to our son. Lol.
Magic_rabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bob?
LK13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who was that dear?
It was Bob, they had a baby... itโs a boy.
iAnimus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*WehadababyEETSaboy
MrCrash ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 17:00:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this guy uses olde tyme telephones.
1mikeg ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:12:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more that sweet spot between when they automated collect call operations and then basically eliminated collect calls. You couldn't get away with this with a live operator.
firelock_ny ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:59:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in high school my parents getting a collect call from one of us kids knew it meant "That kid is where he said he'd be about now and needs you to come pick him up." If the parent wasn't expecting such a call then they'd accept the charges and see what was going on.
vsync ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:23:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would be annoying if you had to let them know of a change to an existing plan. Guess you you could call back again to signal conversation actually required.
undercooked_lasagna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I think that was right before the 10-10 number invasion.
bradfo83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahoy-hoy?
aiasoftelamon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*ye olde thyme thelephones
Ungodlydemon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:31:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember Carrot Top doing collect call commercials in a desperate attempt to save his career?
gunfart ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:41:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but Carrot Top didnโt stick with me through adolescence like how a collect call from โBob Wehadanewbabyitsaboyโ did.
brildenlanch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:05:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually started doing that! "Heyitsmecomepickmeup"
mbz321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mr. t too, who was already fairly irrelevant at that point.
Ungodlydemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooooh shit, that's right. But at lease he didn't look like the physical embodiment of the soul of an orange highlighter.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:44:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna say bobhadababyitsaboy.
CarderSC2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:57:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still had to remind my mom not to accept. "Momsaynopickmeupatschool."
Robski92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:53:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
hearsay_and_rumour ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bob Wehadababyitsaboy
the_fuego ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:22:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright, gimme Ham on 5, Hold the Mayo.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my siblings used to call home collect and when the operator was asking my mom if she would accept the call we would say really quickly when we would be home or where we were then hang up.
PJBthefirst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is really clever
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:13:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone did it
calidn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did this all the time in high school
DontOpenTilXmas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have a collect call from: Momwe'redonecomegetus. Do you accept the charges?
grapesodatoday ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:27:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only way to get out of the matrix
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:45:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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thereisonlyoneme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Give me Hamm on 5 and hold the Mayo."
34HoldOn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Listen Betty, don't start up with this white zone shit again.
GAZAYOUTH93X ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HELLO! VAULT TEC CALLING!
RefrigeratorHaikuGuy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Love your username
Get ready for a PM
Refrigerator
VikingTeddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How rude!
Preparator ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 17:01:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to get technical, the common phone icon represents the specific handset style designed for the Western Electric 500 telephone.
DiscoPanda84 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:36:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also not that different from the handset of the Automatic Electric AE-80 telephone from the same timeframe.
BikerRay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First job was with AE. They still made Strowger switches in 1968.
Denebula ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:01:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing requires it to be a rotary phone, but I get what you're saying.
Edit: Its a receiver
natural_ac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:08:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You right. My first encounter with the bendy bone thing was a rotary phone. I wonder when the symbol was released? With payphones? Or before that.
strobonic ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:03:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first touch tone phones were released in the 60s. Are you saying that your first experience with a handset was before the touch tone phone?
The handset icon probably became popularized with the advent of cordless phones. With corded phones, when you picked up the handset, you immediately got a dial tone in the receiver. With cordless phones, you had to press a button to "pick up" the phone.
macaronisalad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:16:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma still used a beige rotary dial in the 80s when I was a young little shit
Teantis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:01:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf was with the eighties and beige? It's like they just discovered the color and just started using it on fucking everything out of over enthusiasm. So many beige objects in my childhood.
z500 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We used one in my house in the early 90s. That phone is actually still around somewhere I think.
xenomachina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rotary phones didn't disappear the moment touch tone was invented. In the area I grew up, touch tone was an extra service you had to pay for, so my family only had rotary phones when I was younger. Eventually we got phones with buttons, but still used pulse rather than tone dialing. ("Pulse" emulates the way rotary phones dial, which consists of very quickly hanging up and picking up again: once for 1, twice for 2, all the way up to ten times for 0.) I don't think my parents got actual touch tone until the late 90s.
I'm pretty sure pay phones used the handset icon on the side long before cordless phones became popular.
xChris777 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:31:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bendy bone thing? Holy crap there are people on Reddit who have never used a phone like that?
Wow, I'm only 22 but I just had my first "I'm getting old, get off my lawn/bendy home thing" moment.
SeeYouSpaceCowboy--- ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:31:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think most people with jobs use these bendy bones everyday. OP must not yet be in the workforce
frogger2504 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:29:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... I think he's being sarcastic.
spideyjiri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm getting that too, I'm 23, we had a wired phone and I used to play online games through dial-up...
IVVIVIVVI ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 17:40:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a rotary phone, a number pad phone
Fleeetch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:33:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is it not a rotary phone? Have you seen the earpiece of a rotary phone before?
Edit: Looks just like the typical phone icon
barcelonaKIZ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:42:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Number pad phone too, but rotary is the og
Teantis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:02:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are usually called touch tone phones
IVVIVIVVI ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:45:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotcha gotcha, I guess I was associating rotary phones with this style of receiver.
When I was young all the phones I remember using were this style
Fleeetch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:54:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel ya man. Born in the 90's and my parents had one rotary phone in the house, amongst the onslaught of these motherfuckers
randomhero98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It still cracks me up whenever I go to Staples and see like ten of these on a big display, all broken and covered in dust.
junioroverlord ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:49:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A reciever. That's what we called the bendy bone.
BikerRay ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:20:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Handset, actually.
VikingTeddy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:28:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both, actually.
junioroverlord ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. We called them receivers. Albany, NY was where I was born, from where do you hail?
Is this one of those soda vs pop things?
Maskirovka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly it receives and also transmits. Where I'm from we just called it the handle.
BikerRay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe; I'm in Canada. Spent 30-odd years in the telecom industry; a whole bunch in the testing/design of station apparatus (i.e., phones) and their acoustics. Nortel, when it existed.
RefrigeratorHaikuGuy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:50:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a banana
Make sure it's not stored in the
Refrigerator
xaanthar ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:56:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lazy haiku
Write only two of three lines
Refrigerator
Cheesemacher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:35:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's snowing on Mt Fuji
PaintItPurple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would anyone put a banana in the refrigerizer?
jchabotte ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:51:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
handset.
Bladelink ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:13:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LMFAO. I was like "wtf is this guy talking about?" Then I was like "Ohh, he means a phone."
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My oldest daughter (11) asked me why the icon to save something is a house with a garage door.
It then occurred to me that she has never handled a floppy disk in her entire life. I don't think she has even seen a floppy disk except in pictures.
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The other day someone posted about how some millennial saw an old 3.5" floppy disk and said "oh it's so cool how you 3D printed the "save" icon!"
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:33:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sincerely hope they weren't serious with that...
prjindigo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Handset, bitch.
DinerWaitress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone old enough to know what it is forgot the term after they read it :'(
madepopular ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! I thought they were referring to the hand gesture you do when my miming someone to call you.
DrunkenShitposter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Handset.
OathOfFeanor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite. This is the more advanced version where the speaker was combined with the microphone into 1 piece (so it could be held with 1 hand)
Critonurmom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a rotary phone ear piece in a lego set we got, and my 2 year old knew it was a phone. How? No fucking idea. My husband and I are still baffled by that one.
1stLtObvious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or a handset? They're still in regular use.
BaconGenerator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Part of the telephone
nr1988 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they mean the C-shaped phone, not the rotary phone piece but that's funny too
Tie_me_off ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he means the general โmodernโ phone symbol like on your iPhone phone.
leolego2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wait how is the ear piece a "bendy bone thing"? I'm lost on his reasoning
Razzler1973 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cockney rhyming slang for phone is 'dog and bone'
compwiz1202 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it really was a bone or horn thing on the Flintstones :D
CarlosCQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah he meant the Iphone.
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just rotary phones that have that shape, though. Further, the change in shape of the phone was an aesthetic difference, not anything that was functionally required.
Techwood111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Handset. Speaker on one side for your ear, microphone on the other for your mouth. Rotary phones as well as touch-tone phones had these. We aren't talking about the ear cup from older phones.
worrymon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the handset - the earpiece is just one of the bends.
natural_ac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I was near speechless after deciphering what they were talking about. I was struck dumb.
AlienX14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but a lot of phones, especially office phones are still shaped like so how has he not seen a phone like that??
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Receiver.
voip_geek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rotary phone ear piece".... haha. You mean the handset?
The term "ear piece" was more often used for candlestick phones, which weren't even rotary phones originally, and it only goes up to the ear not mouth, and looks like a tall bell shape. The thing that today's icons take their shape from - from traditional rotary and touch-tone phones - is called the "handset".
StinkinFinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rotary was the dial, the piece you held was called the handset.
Coldspark824 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he just means the phone logo which depicts a wide U with fattened ends for locking onto the reciever. Looks like a bone.
Sirefly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rotary phone earpiece is called the receiver.
ThereWereNoPrequels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
handset.
BadSport340 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sad talking banana
hilarymeggin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs the receiver, right?
enigmical ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:58:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're old. You probably will. :(
DarlingBri ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:35:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ. The term for that is a receiver. It has literally never occurred to me that a whole generation has no reason to know that.
FireflyRave ยท 380 points ยท Posted at 16:29:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of people still have a home phone. If for nothing else it's likely going to bundle and make TV/internet less expensive.
Or also in my case, I want a hard line if I ever need to call 911.
shevrolet ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 17:15:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you imagine having a medical emergency and trying to figure out where your cell phone is at the same time? As you get older, that landline is a $15 insurance plan that means that you'll get an ambulance as soon as possible.
gorocz ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 19:05:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
never further than half a meter from my hand to be honest...
shevrolet ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:41:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the same normally, but I would hate to have that odd time where I've left it on the bathroom counter or charging in the bedroom be the time that I need it right away.. especially as you get older and your memory might not be as sharp.
walkclothed ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:22:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my God. I had the worse lower back muscle spasm of my life a few months ago. My fiancรฉe was down in San Diego with her sister and I was at home in the LA area. I had just gotten out of the shower and was naked with a towel. I called her on my cell phone in the living room to ask when she'd be back, and she said about 3 or so hours. I placed my phone down on the counter after the call, and bent down to pick up a piece of paper on the floor. Before I got to it, my back locked up and I crumpled to the ground screaming in pain. I couldn't move at all without excruciating, 10+ pain, effectively paralyzing me. I laid still crying due to the pain for the next two hours when I started panicking. I took my towel and slapped it off the counter so i could reach it on the ground, but it fell the opposite way. I was there for about 4 hours and then my girlfriend came home. However, she had lost her key to the apartment and couldn't get in. Her sister had a spare key in her garage, so she went over there and spent another couple hours looking for it. About 6 hours after the spasm started she finally got in the house. She couldn't help me get up or move me without me screaming like a little girl, so we waited til morning time and we called 911 and the fire department came and helped get me to the car to take me to the ER. I felt so helpless being a few feet from my phone but being unable to reach it for hours. At least I knew it wasn't life threatening.
shevrolet ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:26:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be very intense. I'm glad you were okay! I recognize that in a situation like this where you can't move a landline may not be any more helpful if you can't get to it.
chris1096 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:29:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know that crippling pain very well and feel for you. Luckily when it happened to me my wife was home and was able to call for an ambo after 30 minutes of me being completely incapable of getting up off the floor.
That was the scariest time of my life.
Fuck you, you stupid degenerated discs!
CaptainMudwhistle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I guess this is my life now."
uses towel to slap nachos off the counter
Doogleyboogley ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:45:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No offence but how would going to hospital help? I suppose if I was paying for it yh. In the U.K. That's one of the reasons why our NHS is FUCKED!
walkclothed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:02:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They gave me steroid injections and muscle relaxers and got me able to move again.
TheRealBigLou ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:37:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, an Echo or Google Home would be a better solution. You can call any phone and can do so by yelling out. If you're worried about an emergency, even if you remember where a lan line is, you still may not be able to get to it.
shevrolet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:32:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is probably the best solution to the concern.
mbz321 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:33:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the only functional purpose I see if these devices....elderly or people with medical issues. I can't believe so many people buying them up and putting an open microphone in their home. Yeah, my smartphone is spying on me already, but why add something else to the mix?
TheRealBigLou ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:35:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's demonstrably false that these are actively recording ambient audio. I would not worry about them being used as spying devices as they are so incredibly limited compared to the NSA dream devices called smartphones.
If anything, the more you do with home assistants and less on your smartphone, the less spying can ultimately happen.
frogjg2003 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:47:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's that any different from a landline?
WhiteVenom1993 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:19:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Landlines have a docking station, so they're generally easier to locate.
PhotoJim99 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:09:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Landlines can take wired phones, which are just ... there.
WhiteVenom1993 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly the best way if you're having to worry about it getting lost.
shevrolet ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:18:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't forget where the base for a landline is. I can forget where I set down my cell.
amaezingjew ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:22:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If itโs not a corded phone, you can still just as easily set it down and not remember where. Happened to me loads as a child
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On many, many phones thereโs a button your press on the landline base to make the phone chirp until itโs found
NightGod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A salesman at a company I worked for in the 90s spent four days lying on the floor in a puddle of his own waste because he had a stroke Friday evening and couldn't reach the phone. No family and people didn't get too worried until he didn't show up for work two days in a row.
atzenkatzen ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:46:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate OP's argument. There are lots of medical emergencies that can leave you immobilized. Having a mobile phone on you (nearly) all the time mitigates some of the danger in a way that a landline can't.
walkinthecow ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 20:27:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except he isn't saying to have a landline in lieu of a mobile. Clearly having both gives you the best chance.
resume_ ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:59:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And having three landlines and a mobile phone gives you the best chances ever!
Throw in a pager in there and youโre practically immortal.
Max_Thunder ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:19:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have pager it means that you're a doctor in a hospital so I'd say your odds are really good!
BikerRay ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 20:22:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A landline gives 911 your actual address, a cellphone may not.
masterme120 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can register your address with your cell carrier so 911 can access it. Of course that doesn't help if you're at someone else's house, but there's still GPS which can give a very accurate and quick location.
foxytheterrorterrier ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:27:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats why I like to have both. That way I'm only fucked in the occurance that I am immobilized and my phone is dead/lost.
clario6372 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder - can you call 911 from Google Home/Alexa?
lmnjello ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:42:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the first thing I'll try if I walk into a house that has one of those.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:54:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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elcisitiak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not from Alexa either. Same thing, it can make calls except to emergency numbers
Solid_Freakin_Snake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:24:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The emergency services by my mom's house use a regular local phone number. They say you should call that rather than 911 because it will lead to a faster response time. Now, idk about all that, but it makes me wonder if that number would bypass the Google Home/Alexa restrictions on emergency calls.
Tristan_Gabranth ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:53:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except when you didn't charge it and it died on you and now you're dying, and have to wait for it to recharge so you can call for help...
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:54:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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walkclothed ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:12:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I died once because my phone died too
ChadOhman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was heaven like?
Envowner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're making an awfully big assumption about where /u/walkclothed is going to end up...
ChadOhman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just try to see the best in everyone!
salami_inferno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If my phone has died I've already given up hope and will embrace death warmly.
kindall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also eliminates the need for the "I've fallen and I can't get up" button.
AcclaimNation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just remember to dial your local emergency number and not 911. Because with a cell phone, it dispatches Highway Patrol.
ChadOhman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:37:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in Canada. Your call gets routed to a 911 dispatch center (in Alberta, there's one in Edmonton and Red Deer), they ask the nature of your emergency and then route your call to the correct response.
Official_CIA_Agent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, I one of those people who constantly loses their phone. I just never really got attached to it so I don't really care about where I leave it half the time, and then I'll get distracted and forget where it was.
deptford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and the battery dies or you left it on silent.
FireflyRave ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 17:28:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention that with a landline the operator usually can get an exact address even if you're unable to speak. With a cell phone they just can hope to get into the general area depending which cell tower picked up the call.
uizanfagit ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:11:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I might be wrong but canโt the dispatcher track your phone based on gps when you call? not that they have access to i๏ธt all the time but when you call doesnโt your gps activate? I mean itโs 2017 not 2005
edit: yes I was wrong thank you
ghost_of_James_Brown ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:31:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heck, Uber knows where I am IN MY HOUSE.
uizanfagit ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:01:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
even snapchat does
vsync ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:25:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Playing Ingress or other location-based games will showcase for you that it's not always completely reliable and severe GPS drift is not that rate of an occurrence.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:28:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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uizanfagit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:38:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to me that still seems like a small concern. I donโt really want to pay for a landline in my house when I already pay for a cell phone that does the same thing and more, ya know
Death_By_Penguins ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:12:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think there was a study done where people called 911 from cell phones inside the dispatch center and their tracking system thought they were a block or two away, I'll see if I can find it when I'm not at work.
Whatamuji ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:02:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a news story done by one of the big 3 and I think they said it depends on your dispatch center having the technology to get GPS data from cell phones. Last I knew, it wasn't federally mandated to have such technology in 911 centers.
424f42_424f42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My phone GPS is also inaccurate in places with Lots of tall buildings, as gps doesnt like them.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:16:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of my brotherโs crashed into a pond/lake thing in front a neighborhood 2 or 3 years ago and called 911 on her cell phone. Apparently the call bounced off a tower in a different county so emergency services ended up looking for her in all the wrong places and she drowned. No, I donโt think they can read your GPS.
Either that or my area has outdated shit, which is totally possible.
E: 922 is not emergency services
uizanfagit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in circumstances like that I agree, i๏ธ was just saying that if I was in a situation where I would need a home phone to call 911, my cell phone would probably work just fine instead.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would hope so
mbz321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she should have tried 911 instead?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oops
KingZarkon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, E911 is supposed to be able to automatically pull the GPS from your phone when you call to get you to the correct 911 call center and provide them with your location. The problem is that when you're inside GPS isn't always super accurate. If it can't get a satellite fix it falls back to cell tower triangulation which can have an accuracy as low as a few hundred meters, especially if you don't have good coverage in the area so only one or two towers can see your phone.
evknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately technology has been slow to catch up in this area. Some phone providers and dispatchers having been working to bring the this tech to 911 call someone but it is far from universal.
vsync ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure. Most of the time.
kam0706 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Generally no but thereโs new technology coming through to try to make it more commonplace. The current systems (at least where I live) canโt access that data.
Demetrius3D ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:43:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for this! We've been maintaining our land line even though we all have cell phones now. It's just hard to let it go knowing this has been our "family's phone number" for 30 years! Your comment gives me more justification for keeping it.
Sophrosynic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I moved mine to Voip.ms for like $2/mo. It has my address on file in case 911 needs to be called.
thatG_evanP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:04:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of my wife. Her main argument for keeping the landline is always "But we've had that number for so long". I can't remember the last time I used it. Hell, I sit and listen to it wring all the time because the only "people" that call it are telemarketers or bill collectors.
Mdcastle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:15:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister and I bought our parents house. We still have the telephone number they were assigned when they bought it in 1967.
thatG_evanP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird, because we have kind of the same deal. The phone number we have belonged to my Dad before we got it (only for 10 years or so). My Dad and I were living in an apartment when I turned 18. Then my now-wife moved in and my Dad moved out and left us with the apartment and the phone number. That was like 18 years ago so I guess our phone number is at least 28 years old. You've definitely got us beat there.
Demetrius3D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we moved house, (before cell phones were common) we transferred the land line number. While we were moving, the number worked at both addresses. Since it was the same number, we couldn't call if we needed to ask something of someone at the other location. But... if we picked up the phones at the same time, we could talk like we were on an extension in the other room although we were miles apart! We just planned "pick up the phone on every hour and half-hour" so we could communicate if necessary.
Techwood111 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:13:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) donotcall.org
2) pay your bills ;)
Pro-tip: log the calls, and get the callers to pay you the fine ($1,500 per call, is it?) for calling you when you are listed on the registry, and use THAT to pay your bills.
thatG_evanP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was kinda joking about the bill collector thing. Earlier on in life, maybe not.
Demetrius3D ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's nice when I need to give someone a real phone number, but don't want to give them my cell number. I use my cell phone for business. I expect that there may be calls coming in that I WANT but where I don't recognize the number (new clients!!) So, I generally answer it even when I wouldn't answer my land line. And, I might have clients all across the country. EOD in Washington state or California is well into the evening here. And, a late day there is well into the night. So, I almost never turn my cell phone off. I don't need junk calls coming to my cell phone.
DontTreadOnBigfoot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It just occurred to me that I don't think our house has any landline jacks.
It's an old house that was remodeled right before we bought it, and they must have removed them all...
Scrtcwlvl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:10:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did they at least replace them with Ethernet jacks?
DontTreadOnBigfoot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:14:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course not! That would make far too much sense.
One of those projects I will get to someday...
Scrtcwlvl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course not indeed lol. Hah, the last owners of my house put a bunch of Ethernet ports to all the kids bedrooms from some weird back room where they had the router. Except I don't want the router there, don't have kids, and would rather have an Ethernet jack by the living room and where I put my computer. So I have a bunch of wired Ethernet jacks that are now useless to me and needed to put new ones in anyway. Someday.
DontTreadOnBigfoot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the mean time, I'm planning on giving a set of Powerline adapters a go, and see how they perform in my house.
If it's better than wifi, then that will do a long way toward being able to put off the ethernet project. ;)
Avery3R ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:38:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cell phones have E911. When you call your home address will pop up on the dispatcher's screen, regardless of where the cell tower picks you up at. If the cell tower picks you up close to your home they can pretty safely assume that you are at home
KingZarkon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:08:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
E911 doesn't use your billing address. It uses a location provided by the carrier calculated using the cell towers or, if possible, location data from the handset itself.
Avery3R ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:13:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With t-mobile at least, you can set your e911 address on the website.
KingZarkon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That might be for wifi calling or when using a microcell since those wouldn't be able to use tower triangulation.
Globalscree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the UK your credit score is positively impacted by having a landline. Implies Stability.
Namika ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good finances also improve your credit score, and spending those ~200ยฃ a year from your landline towards investments or paying down debts would probably be more beneficial.
Globalscree ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:06:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to a mortgage advisor.
addakorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
911 has access to your gps location in most cases.
akchick1971 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:58:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My landline is $44/mo. The taxes are more than the service. I live in the sticks and the only reason I keep the landline is because cell service is sometimes spotty.
tabascodinosaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine's similar, but it's a surcharge for my alarm system to not have one anyways, so it's a wash with or without.
tabascodinosaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay Google, call 911?
malarky0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the issue with 911 and finding cell phones isn't for the CALLER, but the RECEIVER of the call. When you call 911 from a cell phone, 99% of the time it gets routed to the Highway Patrol, then from there they transfer to local EMS. Then, they can ask you for an address since they can't get an accurate location through a cell phone. Through a landline, EMS call centers get the physical address instantly, like caller ID.
foxytheterrorterrier ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is the sole reason I have a landline. I lose my phone all the time, and once I thought my dog was having a heart attack and couldnt find my phone to call a vet or figure out where the nearest e vet once (thankfully he was just excited to see me and I was having a panic attack but what if theres a real emergency?)
mbz321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except in a lot of places, landlines are deteriorating and telcos aren't repairing them willingly anymore. The line going into my parents house had issues but Verizon didn't want to fix it, so they dropped the landline for MagicJack.
CrushyOfTheSeas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alexa call 911.
1mikeg ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:13:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most bundled phones are now VOIP phones, so say goodbye to hard line 911 service.
FireflyRave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently switched over my internet/cable/phone to a different company. And no, the phone doesn't go through telephone line. But I do remember a disclaimer when I was looking over the paperwork. They have a system in place that will allow a 911 call center to track where the call is coming from and provide your address. But there are slight chances it might fail occasionally (power outage, ect) so they wanted their customers to be aware of that. No idea if it's as effective as telephone line tracking, but it's something.
Also, my plan would have been more expensive without the phone added on anyway.
1mikeg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:42:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto to all of that. The crazy thing is when I signed up with my phone company I had to "digitally attest" that I wouldn't sue them if I didn't have access to 911 service during an emergency because the power was out or the internet was out. Shortly after that, they sent me an ad to buy the battery backup for the modem they sent me that would ensure it would still work in case of a power outage.
JMV290 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cellphones have this as well though. Both are part of e911
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In most areas cell phones go to a different call center. So it's not that they won't know where you are it's that you could be on hold for a long time. My wife had to call 911 from our house once after a man chased her on the street. She was on hold for like 20-30 minutes on her cell. After that we got a VOIP, be cause those go to the same center as a regular landline. Flowroute can get you a phone line for like $2 a month that's perfect for emergencies.
vsync ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe it sits on a different VLAN with reserved bandwidth and has a backup battery to provide line voltage.
Though mine is Vonage so I can't get smug. Especially since they're obviously going through increasing financial difficulties and nowadays often don't even have trunk lines available.
skrame ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard from a few different sources that the landline will work for 911, even if you don't pay for phone service. Just plug the phone in and it should work.
I haven't tested it, and don't know for sure.
FireflyRave ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:16:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've certainly heard that about cell phones. That it doesn't need a service plan to dial 911 so long as it has a signal. A reason why places like women's shelters ask for old phones to be donated.
Because I have nothing better to do I found a rather old article about landlines. I guess it depends on where you live if you would be able to 911 from an otherwise inactive line.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2009/05/update-about-911-and-disconnected-landlines/index.htm
gorocz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is definitely true - when you remove your SIM, it says "Emergency Calls Only" same as when you're outside of the signal coverage of your provider.
vsync ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a GSM phone you should memorize 112 because it's required by spec to work everywhere regardless of country/region. Even in the USA.
jimicus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah - it isn't as simple as that.
While there IS a mechanism built into GSM to allow phones to connect to the emergency services even if they don't have a SIM card, there isn't an obligation on the part of network operators to make this happen. I'm not aware if there's any way for your phone to check whether or not it can short of actually placing a call.
KingZarkon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:11:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it is actually. FCC requirements state that they have to connect 911 calls regardless of if the device is a subscriber.
gorocz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I can't speak for US operators, I'm pretty sure it is an obligation for all EU operators.
KingZarkon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's also why you shouldn't give old cell phones to little kids to play with. They can end up calling 911 on accident.
Killerhurtz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not if they're not active, I think. Dry lines might work.
On the flipside, think there may be laws making telecoms companies maintain older networks to working spec so that most cellphones you'll ever find, plan or no plan, will be able to call 911 from anywhere that has coverage from a lot of networks (hence why most plan less phones show "emergency calls only")
Champigne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
911 will work on a cell phone regardless of network service, also.
soupersauce ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:16:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just going to get life alert when I turn 40.
jimicus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, one thing I really needed when I jumped on Reddit this evening was a reminder that (at 38) I'm apparently elderly enough to be 2 years off needing a life alert bracelet.
I guess the next thing I'll be looking for is carpet slippers and haemorrhoid ointment.
soupersauce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was much more of a self-deprecating joke about my non-confidence in my ability to take care of myself than it is about 40-year-olds being elderly.
Just think about this: If after discovering there's no more toilet-paper in the bathroom, you can still manage a pants-around-ankles shuffle across the house, you're doing just fine.
jimicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know you're an adult when you check there's sufficient bog roll before dropping your trousers.
The_Great_Mighty_Poo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need a hard line for Life alert. Or at least digital voice from the cable company. My grandparents got one of the cell tower based landline phones and they said that you can't connect home security or Life alert to it.
When I had a home security system, I had to have a landline (or in my case Comcast)
thinkofanamefast ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:17:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My land line is only there to call my cell phone when I lose it in house. Gets a lot of use.
Bobreddit2015 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:10:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many parents of children who employ baby sitters keep home phones for the purpose of 911. With enhanced 911, the panicked baby sitter doesn't have to know the address of the home to summon help.
hazysummersky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would make mine more expensive, haven't had a landline in 10 years.
Not_a_real_ghost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My internet package with phone line rental is about ยฃ37.50. The package without a phone line is ยฃ39. I don't even have a phone connected to the socket. I am also on fiber so this doesn't really make much sense to me.
prjindigo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a couple old cellphones kept charged will do it
Hell, a Samsung Freestyle III will do it if you stand on it for 3 seconds... true hands-free!
servohahn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I have one. My cell reception sucks at my house.
Dodgiestyle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact! In many apartments (and maybe houses, Iโm not sure) you can plug a land line phone into the existing wall port and successfully dial 911, even if you donโt pay for the phone service. I think California has a law that says it must be in place for emergencies.
ILikeFluffyThings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my case I have to get a home phone to get internet, and I have to pay for the phone too.
Max_Thunder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a voip home phone just because it's a shit ton cheaper than having a cell phone plan (we go on prepaid instead). I pay 1 cent a minute for anywhere in North America, and 1-800 numbers and the like are 100% free.
I'd have to pay extra to get 911 though.
white_franklin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use to have it for a bundle deal. Now I keep a landline cause the cell service where I live is shitty at best, and usually non-existant.
StabbyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you don't need service for that
FireflyRave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old article that I had posted in another comment. It depends where you're at if a "soft dial" is required to be left on when service is otherwise turned off.
StabbyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you also don't need cell service to dial 911. keeping a cell phone plugged in with no plan works as well
FranticDisembowel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but I feel like 99% of home phones are wireless now and don't resemble the old style.
PrimozDelux ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 16:28:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually use our home phone number when calling my parents. It's nice to be able to call a number that both my parents are equally likely to answer. I know it's viewed as an anachronism, but I don't think it should be.
yeahokaymaybe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same-- I'm the only person that calls it these days, but at this point it's tradition. It was the first number I ever learned at that last bit of childhood that is still current. So I'll call the house phone until they deactivate it.
LongHorsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same, though in their case, it's almost guaranteed to connect whereas their house doesn't get very good cell service.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Max_Thunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can have a very cheap voip landline if you know how to set it up. About 1 a month to have a number, and 1 cent a minute. I think you can get unlimited minutes for $5. (those prices are voip.ms)
You can also use your voip to call on wifi, which can be useful if travelling internationally.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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phidus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:41:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or using a phone from 1975 in the present.
Publix_Deli ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:25:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Home phones make a lot of sense when you have kids and you want to leave them at home alone, but don't want to give a 12 year-old a cell phone.
Got_no_pants ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:15:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bendy bone, I'm dying.
IveAlreadyWon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:21:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean...my phone at work looks like that.
IAmNotNathaniel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:05:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I was wondering when someone older than 18 would reply to that.
mongcat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:58:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a home phone, I can't get a signal because of the foil-backed insulation in my house
skrame ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:11:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My children (4 and under) have never seen a functional "bendy bone thing", but when they found a play one in my parent's toy box they knew exactly what it was. I'm not sure how; the old receiver looks nothing like the smart phones they knew.
wtfreddithatesme ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:31:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Receiver is the word your looking for.
ashervisalis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:20:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always ridiculous when applying for jobs, and the website requires you to input both your mobile number and your home phone number...
lmnjello ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:35:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The handset is still completely relevant though. Pretty much every phone you will ever use besides your personal cell phone still looks like that. Every business still uses these phones. Any job you ever have or desk you ever sit at will have these phones.
wasit-worthit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:09:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck how young are you?
29100610478021 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just killed myself laughing. I needed that today, thanks.
V1per41 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Office phones still look like this.
montarion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:41:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still have landlines though?
Myotheraltwasurmom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids are now using an open palm instead
MuggedByMonkeys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You dropped this ๐๐ฆ๐ฆ
RainbowPhoenixGirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I have a home phone. I live with my parents though so it's not TOO surprising. I'm honestly not sure WHY we pay for a home phone, given that the only people who ever use it are telemarketers.
SeeYouSpaceCowboy--- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh, someone yet untouched by the working world. Enjoy it for me while you can
TasteTheRaimbow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comment is hilarious
draginator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, some of us still have those.
danhakimi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have one of those. Living with my parents and working from home sucks. This is just one of the reasons -- spammers have the power to make random loud noises appear in my workplace, and I have to get up to stop it.
pslessard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is a home phone number not used anymore. Misty people have home phones
rawbface ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in an office and I'm looking at one of those bone things right now. My building has hundreds of them. They're not obsolete.
totibaba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wow.
wolffangz11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called a handset but I fucking lol'd
StabbyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
allow me to introduce the princess phone
_AlreadyTaken_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly just showing a rectangle isn't a great icon
BrotherRangale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term for this is called retrosymbolism
IAmNotNathaniel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except... this kind of phone is everywhere if you go into any business of almost any kind.
showzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait.. People don't have home phone numbers anymore? We've had the same number for like 25 years
Galaxy_Ranger_Bob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the save icon.
nuadusp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
um have a home phone number, so not dead yet
scubaguy194 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I... I have a home phone number. Use it a lot. It usually works out cheaper.
originalwombat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am currently applying for jobs. 9/10 applications require a home phone number as the primary number. I just put my mobile
tonguepunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still use one of those. Itโs Bluetooth and connects to my iPhone, sure, but as a kid of the 80โs/90โs that grew up around these, thereโs something nice about having one of those wedged between my ear and shoulder to talk to people thatโs more comfortable to me.
Something about the iPhone makes it so uncomfortable to talk on and, even though I donโt talk on the phone much anymore, Iโd much rather use that old style handset than have an iPhone pressed against my head.
ProtoKun7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Home phones are still very much a thing though.
stromm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a home phone.
I even have a trimline phone. Haven't dialed a phone for near 25 years.
millenniumxl-200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was little, my parents' phone was from the future. It had a hashtag 30 years before twitter was invented.
sparkfist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The calculator icon looks more like a phone than the phone icon does.
nitsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โBendy bone.โ Username checks out
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever seen a phone in a movie based in any time before 2005?
KeithMyArthe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hoopy froods refer to it as a Raprod.
RedDogInCan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're really old (and British) if you can recall it being referred to as a 'telling bone'.
Anagoth9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word you're looking for is "handset".
nauset3tt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omfg gold jerry ๐
fight_me_for_it ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A co worker told me a story about a kid who went to make a phone call and he held the phone on top of his head. I thought the kid was joking because this is something maybe a toddler would do. But the kid was serious.
Are you the middle schooler I heard a story about?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Home phone number?
BearAnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm, you mean a handset? Cause those are still widely used for every phone that's not cellular. In a business for example.
toth42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is it called in English? In Norwegian it's name is "the phone pipe" actually, so we say "legge pรฅ rรธret"(lay the pipe on) for hanging up, because that what you did, lay the handheld thingy down on the table-thingy.
Oshunlove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people do still have landlines, so the term "home phone number" is not yet obsolete.
doomfox13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Receiver
Akyrael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Home is where the heart is.
To leave a message, please press 1. To leave a call back number, please press 5. For more options, please press star. To hear these options again, please press 9.
realbigbob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, it's 20 fucking 17 and employers still ask for my "home phone number", like the average 22 year old still has a landline
keef_hernandez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโll just go look into nursing homes.
nukii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most offices still have the bendy phone things.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good lord. Lol. Wow.
Akuzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best thing I've ever read that has made me feel old lol
Joetato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with home phone number? People still have landlines. I have a landline! I've never so much as plugged a phone into it, but I'm paying for it for some reason.
Strange thing is I don't even know the number and have never given it out, yet I'm somehow still getting calls on it. I can see missed calls every month when I go to pay my bill online, as you can apparently see this stuff online now.
epsileth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Retro bendy bone thing for your smartphone? Bluetooth models exist also.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Retro-Classic-Telephone-3-5mm-Retro-Cell-Phone-Handset-Phone-Receiver-for-iPhone/475175306
goodthropbadthrop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, my aunt and uncle bought me an adapter for my old iPhone that was literally just one of those bendy bone things on an old school curly cord that you plug into your mic port. It's probably the worst gift I've ever received.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until recently "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" on NPR offered as the prize for their games "Carl Kasell's voice on your home answering machine."
agoodall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son needed glasses as a child (in 2002). This was before he knew the alphabet, so they used symbols, like cat, car, house, etc. One of the symbols was an old fashioned telephone. He said, "thinking chair!" The optometrist looked at him funny, but I laughed and explained that he was right. It looked vaguely like Steve's easy chair, his "thinking chair", from the kids' show Blue's Clues. The phone handle looked sort of like a chair back and padded arms. He had no other point of reference for the shape.
ask_your_mother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My toddler somehow knows to hold the bendy thing to her ear, and I donโt think sheโs ever seen a dumb phone in her life.
BiggaNiggaPlz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG I just realized the current generation of kids probably has no idea wtf that symbol is. I wonder what things we have no idea about...
SirRogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad will give up his home number when you pry it from his cold, dead hands.
He constantly complains that the only people who call are telemarketers and the like, but will he get rid of it? Nope. Just keep on throwin' money down the drain.
Kylorin113 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The moment when your parents still have a rotary home phone.
henrycharleschester ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:14:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still have a rotary phone.
Scrivener83 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:16:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a magneto crank phone. Before he died, my grandfather re-wired it so that it would work on modern phone lines (now the crank just rings the bell).
It was the very first phone they got on the farm back in the 1920s. My grandfather went on to work for Bell Canada, and actually installed the first automatic dialing switch in Toronto back in the 1940s.
henrycharleschester ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:18:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awesome
brildenlanch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:08:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah we still have them at our family farm between the different houses. They were working up until a few years ago. One ring was Grandma, two was Uncle Clarence.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an old phone where you pick the earpiece up off a cradle and talk into the horn bit on the base that my grandpa rewired to be a lamp. Pick up the earpiece to turn it on
DemenicHand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
get off AOL, your sister need to use the phone Henry
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As part of your antique collection I hope?
manfroze ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:54:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why you "hope"? If it works...
henrycharleschester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
GriffsWorkComputer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my parents got a home phone made of legos lol
shevrolet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd love to have a rotary phone. My in-laws have an antique wall telephone that still works. It's awesome.
henrycharleschester ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:19:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it definitely feeds my nostalgia.
uncountableinfinity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goes well with the typewriter.
henrycharleschester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stop looking through my window!
EntroperZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta remember to use ATDP instead of ATDT for your modem, too, I bet.
henrycharleschester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not relevant now is it.
mudgetheotter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:18:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are things going back in caveman times?
henrycharleschester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, ask your mam.
mudgetheotter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:10:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would, but she's fucking dead.
henrycharleschester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking dead what? Pretty sure that's illegal.
Declanmar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:45:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just got Why itโs called that.
Boxcar_Overkill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or "don't touch that dial" from when TV's had dials on them.
ienjoypoopingstuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... who says this? Never heard it before
Boxcar_Overkill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to hear it on game shows all the time, when people were cutting to commercials. The announcer would say "we'll be back after a message from our sponsor, don't touch that dial."
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:47:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:59:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of cars still have dials for radio frequency control and volume, it's just not analog.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:30:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TinyBreadBigMouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And "rewind" currently means to reverse a recording, whether or not an actual tape is being wound back up. Definitions change. That's what the question was about; words that made sense when they were first used, but have been left behind by changing technology/culture.
The phrase "dial a number" originated from the actual dial that was used to enter the number. It currently just means to enter a number. That's the point.
PurpleMTL ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:09:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or pick up the phone. I guess we still pick it up but that doesn't mean you've answered it.
kbg12ila ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... I still use those with my actual phone. You hang up a call and dial a number. Did those things have another meaning? Am I missing something?
Juniebug9 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:43:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up comes from placing the phone back onto the rack to end a call.
Dial comes from rotary phones where you turn a dial to choose the numbers.
kbg12ila ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:47:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I feel stupid. But thank you.
EatsOnlySpaghetti ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:00:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine how old people feel that the dude up top described the phone icon (a stylized receiver) as "the bendy bone thing".
kbg12ila ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow lol. True.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial is shorter than "press numbers on your phone to call someone."
pmacd00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or having a phone โringโ. I know some still mimic the ringing sound but phones donโt have bells on them like they used to.
Vorxious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would even "the phone is ringing" be incorrect? We don't use bells anymore.
JFeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a teenager at work tell me yesterday when I dialed the work phone to hit send. I said this isn't a cell phone. They just looked confused. They have literally never used a regular phone before.
elee0228 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still dial: https://imgur.com/oAmpkbX
Cuchullion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:10:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For when you want to be hipster but just can't give up your smart phone.
Periclydes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Number pads?
EvitaPuppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And give your finger the free ride back! Good Times!
BenevolentCheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
disc jockey
bag_of_grapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still dial numbers sometimes
rolfraikou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We could simulate a rotary dial on a touchscreen.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still dial a lot of numbers when I'm at work. But, the phone is a program on a desktop and its quicker to remember the phone number than to scroll through the contact list, even with a mouse wheel.
Not sure if that counts here.
Tie_me_off ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you are calling someone you still h e to dial a set of numbers.
gimp150 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I passed an advert on a white van that said, Dinny dilly dally, dial Daily...
Not sure if that means much outside of Scotland.
nangadef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how many Redditors have ever had to use a rotary phone โ๏ธ
tulutollu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, even "call." If somebody yells at me over the phone I'm hanging up
midnight_margherita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have had to teach my kids to dial 911 push 9-1-1-green. It doesn't automatically call on a cell phone and if they are too young they won't realize it...
aerovistae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or to have your phone "ring"
lgm1219 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kids want to press enter when using a landline after dialing the number
formlex7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh shit I'm 24 and I never made that connection that the term originally came from the literal dial in the center of dial phones
raaneholmg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very few sounds make any sort of ringing sound anymore.
wpiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See here, stop The telegraph had many terms, stop. that we still use today, stop...
iki0o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say dialing a number is still relevant, then I remembered that phones were dials back then.
baoparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
English isn't my native tongue but why is dial not legit anymore? I mean, I still dial numbers on my smartphone? Is dial directly linked to a physical action that I am not aware of?
evilcheesypoof ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:10:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dials are surfaces that show numbers/frequencies in a circle, to dial something used to mean to rotate a physical device to select things on that dial.
Pushing buttons isnโt the same thing yet we still say dial.
baoparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaah itโs from those phones! Thanks, gotcha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Growing up my family had a rotary phone on the wall. We also had a party line. It wasn't fun.
dog-pussy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or for the phone to โringโ.
r3dd1t_n00b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or tapp my wires
AlexanderESmith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First I thought because you mean the transition from rotary to touch tone, but then I remember that we don't even really do that anymore.
Fuck I'm old.
future_weasley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or answering machine
Jman15x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or even "pick up"
ThisIsntFunnyAnymor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this.
Joemartucci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL "dial" doesn't mean to simply input a phone number.
YoMommaSez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still "dial" a number! And, have you put anyone on hold lately?
hazmatte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the phone is ringing. As in when they had bells and a mallet.
DeseretRain ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you talking about? We still dial numbers. The definition of dial is โcall (a telephone number) by turning a disk with numbered holes or pressing a set of buttons.โ
We still โpress a set of buttonsโ to call a telephone number. One of the definitions of button is โan element of a graphical user interface which a user can select to perform a particular action.โ
So yeah...we still dial phones. What did you think we were doing to call people if not dialing? Like why would you think pressing the buttons on your smartphone wasnโt dialing?
beatakai ยท 3344 points ยท Posted at 16:20:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend is a pediatrician and she was telling me how kids these days have replaced this (๐ค) with just a flat hand.
ssseltzer ยท 1357 points ยท Posted at 16:46:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep! The kids I nanny &their friends do this. And they pretend to type on their palm to send texts and emails more than they make pretend phonecalls.
chanaleh ยท 993 points ยท Posted at 18:21:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at daycare, I noticed this a few months ago. And the preschoolers will sometimes get a rectangular wooden block to use as a phone.
intelligent_cement ยท 347 points ยท Posted at 20:43:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me laugh as my soon-to-be two year old daughter takes framed pictures off of tables and tries to โswipe left/rightโ with a look of frustration as they donโt โrespondโ to her touch.
AtomicFreeze ยท 159 points ยท Posted at 21:25:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last Christmas we had football on TV on mute while everyone was talking and not really paying attention to the TV. My cousin's one-year-old daughter kept touching the mute ๐ symbol and trying to swipe to get football off the TV. It was adorable.
laz3rman ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:54:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christmas with Football instead of Basketball! The monstrosity!
AtomicFreeze ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:39:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're not a big NBA family, but to be fair it was an extended family Chistmas that wasn't on Christmas Day. It was closer to New Year's.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:03:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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jumpinjezz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:42:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Between? It's left over ham in sandwiches watching the Boxing Day Test. Stuff the yatching, that's for rich folk
waraukaeru ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:59:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd try to swipe it off too...
Smart girl.
IlezAji ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I spent an afternoon with my brother's gf's extended family not too long ago. Her nephew was so accustomed to streaming services that he couldn't comprehend TV channels having a schedule. At first it was a little concerning to my old person brain but then I reflected on how little television I watch these days that's not part of a streaming service.
Silntdoogood ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:53:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was at a rest plaza and this kid kept complaining to her parents the map on the wall was broken. After some confusion they explained it's just a Backlot map, not a computer screen.
I've always wondered what astonishment I'd see if I could take one of today's screens in to the past and trick someone in to thinking it was a photo, then hitting play. I guess I get to experience it backwards, where kids only know screens and look astonished at paper.
Holociraptor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:39:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find this future to be scary.
Moal ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:55:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure past generations felt the same about the younger generation growing up with radios and TV.
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still wouldn't recommend putting your 2 year old in front of a TV for a significant amount of time. TV is terrible because there's no interaction.
ensoul ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:23:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's depressing.
ChineseJoe90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's adorable!
SirRogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny, but also somehow sad.
junesponykeg ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 19:52:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's daughter uses an old audio tape as a pretend phone.
headlighted1 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 20:24:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. My 5yo regularly walks around with a flat rectangular duplo block as his โphoneโ. He makes calls, sends texts and even โvlogsโ with it.
caulfieldrunner ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 21:05:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have to pick it up afterwards to delete the comments from the creeps who were watching your son's block vlog?
SilentRaindrops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't trust those weeble-wobbles.
brahmidia ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:42:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doh porget to likeansusribe!
scientist_tz ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:00:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Show him how bananas used to be used as phones and blow his mind.
pilotsam8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:40 on December 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oof
Kaarsty ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 20:45:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw kids at a spelling bee pretending to write on the palm of their hands or type on a phone on the palm of their hands to remember how to spell a word. That was neat... ONE girl used her foot to draw the letters out on the carpet. Humans are amusing.
boom149 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:46:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did spelling bees in middle school and I would tap my fingers on my thumb as though I was typing a word on a keyboard. I actually still do that, not to remember how to spell words but just to have something to do with my hands when I'm walking or whatever.
atree496 ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 19:39:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too be fair, we did that as kids with the blocks, but that's because it was the closest we has
FierceDeity_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:42:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bananas
QueueWho ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:21:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah there was always a set of plastic fruit at my daycare. I think everyone talked on the banana at least once a week.
Dyvius ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:20:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awesome. I haven't used a non-smart phone in years, but my phone symbol is still the pinky-and-thumb-out against the side of my face method.
Mimicry in our formative years is a big deal.
nerdgirlproblems ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:43:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in daycare too. Do your kids also put their block "phones" in their shirt the way some moms put phones in their bras?
chanaleh ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:41:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah! I have not seen this yet. Well, I've seen a few put down shirts, but it's usually because they need two hands and don't want someone to take their phone.
NextArtemis ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:56:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP banana phone
AerialAmphibian ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:58:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The inventor of the Palm Pilot tested the concept by cutting different sizes of wooden blocks, walking around the office, and pulling them out of his pocket to scribble on them with a pencil.
MemeTroubadour ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:22:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity, do people still use PDAs? What's the advantage compared to a smartphone?
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:26:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The advantage would probably be the PDA having absurdly long battery life since it can be super low power and still fulfill its purpose. I donโt think theyโre really used though anymore.
AerialAmphibian ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:00:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. PDAs mostly disappeared as smartphones got their features, and then some.
I think these days the closest non-phone products used instead of PDAs are small tablets or Internet-connected devices like the iPod Touch (which is basically an iPhone without the phone).
sugardeath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:01:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None really, the smartphone performs all the functions of a PDA.
NextArtemis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:29:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard from a friend they use them where he works for security reasons because internet connections and stuff like that. Not sure if that's true although it seems reasonable.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd still use my iPAQ Pocket PC, if it could still work. The software was very good, compared to phone software. I used to be able to create an SQL relational database, including input forms, on it. Also, using "Graffiti"-type handwriting with a stylus was very fast and accurate. I could write things without having to look at the screen. Because it used a sharp stylus (or a fingernail), the interface was very fine-grained. Buttons could be very small, for instance, and so I could have more options at-hand.
I've used PDAs since the time of the Apple Newton, although I never used the Newton. I used the Casio Z-PDA. It was a DOS/Geos based computer with Graffiti handwriting and a PC-compatible NEC V-30 CPU. It had 1 MB of total RAM, of which 640 k was saved for the system.
It also still works.
jaeisjazz ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:51:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 18 month old son likes to use a large flat piece of Duplo to pretend heโs making a phone call. Heโll bring it over to me like โMummy phoneโs for you!โ Bless him.
gigu67 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 18:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wow that's cool
WastingMyYouthHere ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 19:07:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the block doesn't actually work as a phone...
Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 19:36:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh :(
ThatLexxyFellow ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:12:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you saying about the iPhone 8R1CK?
xorgol ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:33:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta be a Motorola with a name like that.
pilotsam8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:57 on December 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it the one that only takes ID-10-T batteries?
brildenlanch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:10:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You think or you know?
7_EaZyE_7 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:06:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to teach them that the correct way to make a pretend phone call is with a banana
finallyinfinite ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:40:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me uncomfortable.
I'm 22. I'm too young to feel old.
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was feeling old at 16, five years ago.
SmallGrayPets ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
22 here as well. Also feel uncomfortably old after reading this comment thread.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my grandson was just a baby I was playing with him on the floor. I had a plastic thing that had inside, blue colored water and a little boat. The thing was about the size of a phone and sort of shaped like one. The minute he saw it he put it up to his ear.
fishred ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:34:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my four-year-old will use anything as a phone. A couple of years ago he got a pretty cool toy car in the mail from a relative. As soon as he got it out of the box he was running around the room pretending it was a phone and making emergency calls on it.
I thought it was funny because when I was his age I'd've been able to pretend just about anything was a car ...
HatCoffee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:05:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs actually adorable. Do they pretend to talk to each other on their wood blocks?
chanaleh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:39:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, they're usually calling mommy or daddy.
DanYHKim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awwwww
trout9000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:52:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My four year old carries around a domino and calls it her cell phone. It's great
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How big is the domino?
trout9000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just a regular one
SirRogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About 30
dramboxf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My now 8-yo granddaughter, when she was a toddler, used to imitate my wife talking into her cell's speakerphone by walking around, holding a playing card in her hand and babbling into it.
thatJainaGirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 16 month old knows how to tap, scroll, and open apps.
Styrak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost as effective as using an iPhone.
SirRogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit, I was going to make an iPhone joke.
OdeeOh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP banana phone
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:03 on December 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends' 3-year-olds has a flat lego base that she moves blocks around on while telling us she's programming on her tablet. I look forward to having her around to explain future technology to me.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 20:34:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Thrabalen ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:54:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Talk to the hand" indeed.
nolotusnotes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:48:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, you'll get a kick out of these!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2EgfkhC1eo
Cobaltjedi117 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does it feel living in the future?
caff_addict88 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 18:31:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My niece couldn't find the toy phone that was right in front of her (it was on old corded phone) so she used a plastic banana as a phone.
nnneeeerrrrddd ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:36:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's downright fascinating.
I love that my generation's (early millennial) "Uphill Both Ways" might be tales of the struggle with early-ish consumer electronics.
InformationMagpie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've already had to scoff at a younger relative's plight of having to keep a blog with ready-made programs for a college class. In my day, we had to code the damn HTML ourselves!
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm writing html for a class right now. For some reason, it's making horizontal scrolling for one page, even though all the other pages don't do that.
Te-Rex ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:42:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was with a friend's first grade class a few days ago where they were having a concert and saw a little one with a rectangular foam block. She was holding it up, pretending to record the show. It was hilarious.
southernbenz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They should use their thumbs...
frotc914 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh you know, kids these days and their palm pilots.
southernbenz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao
noticethisusername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that hard to hold your phone so as to type with two pointing fingers instead of the thumbs. It's good to have in case you are typing a lot and wanna switch up fingers.
kuenx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Call me hand"? I thought that meant "hang loose".
DontOpenTilXmas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me want to die.
laxt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In fairness, I'm in my late 30s and use my phone for data a hell of a lot more than phone calls. In fact even before smart phones, I always have. Flip phone would be used more as an mp3 player with some internet capabilities, rather than a phone.
igotitb4you ยท 3365 points ยท Posted at 16:38:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shaka, when the calls failed.
Protahgonist ยท 1951 points ยท Posted at 16:44:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Darmok and Jalad on the FaceTime.
pipsdontsqueak ยท 1655 points ยท Posted at 17:07:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Temba, his connection poor.
sandm000 ยท 751 points ยท Posted at 17:38:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kiazi's children, watching vine compilations.
/u/sandm000 his comment edited: Idubbz, his victims roasted.
exatron ยท 443 points ยท Posted at 18:49:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mirab, his call ended.
W00oot ยท 222 points ยท Posted at 20:19:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pai, his wallet unfurled.
deafblindmute ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 21:47:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kiteo, his message left on read.
Simusid ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 23:52:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uzani, his StarTak, with battery dead
kensai8 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:14:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now his call has ended.
omega_pillar ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 17:43:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvotes for all you magnificent ferengis
tdopz ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 18:57:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tamarians!
omega_pillar ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:42:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, but I wanted to reference Ds9, S06E10
ChucksnCheers ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 20:06:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sokath, his eyes open
zgf2022 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:01:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omega_pillar his references wrong
temporalarcheologist ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:24:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't we have a subreddit for this?
sandm000 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:03:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/sandm000 dropping /r/Tenagra references
surfnsound ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:13:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea what is going on here.
[deleted] ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 19:27:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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vonmonologue ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 20:09:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Long story short, they talk in memes.
Like redditors but with culture.
sandm000 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 20:12:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Redditors, their macros fresh.
/u/sandm000, he stands corrected.
ProtoKun7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their.
Jess_than_three ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:10:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think this is a neat idea, BTW, you should definitely read China Miรฉville's book Embassytown. It's excellent, albeit a huge brainfuck.
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:29:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Star Trek: The Next Generation. Episode โDarmokโ. This is a reference to the Tamarian language which uses only references to stories and myths. โDarmok and Jalad on Tanagra.โ - two historical figures work together on an island. โDarmok and Jalad on the ocean.โ - the two sail together after working together. And so on. If you donหt have the knowledge what those people did, you donหt know what the sentence means.
Nothing to do with Klingon.
LichOnABudget ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:01:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/Tenagra
terdsie ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:28:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know I needed this!
LichOnABudget ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:33:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It can be a little bit of a mixed bag, but the good ones are awesome.
DanYHKim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, yeah! It's like reading a particularly great haiku. So full of meaning, with so few words. It's my favorite episode.
ProtoKun7 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:37:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except it's spelt Tanagra...
LichOnABudget ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:46:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. They goofed when they first made it, I think. r/Tanagra redirects to there, iirc.
r0c1nant3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my favorite subs, actually
ranma1_5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:23:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe it's a reference to the
KlingonTamarian (thanks /u/Rylester) language from Star Trek, which is composed entirely of cultural references.PicaTron ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:28:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sokath, his eyes open!
MozemanATX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donnie J.....in winter.
Rylester ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:29:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Close, it's an episode in the Next Generation series. They run into a species called Tamarian. They have no concept of sentences in a formal sense. They speak purely in metaphor. Every metaphor is a person, or people, and an event it's never literal and has to be given context.
ranma1_5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:30:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, got it. Thanks! Fixed
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:30:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, no. Itโs the Tamarian Language from TNG โDarmokโ, see my other comment.
self_of_steam ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:11:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Durak, his data connected
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:05:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you Trekkies, thank you.
RebelWithoutAClue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:29:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Picard his face palmed.
lepusfelix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trump, his Twitter shut down
NariNaraRana ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:09:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The beast at the apple store
noctrnalsymphony ยท 488 points ยท Posted at 17:31:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Temba, his wifi unsecured.
RearEchelon ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 19:09:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
His area network wide
terdsie ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:22:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaand now I want to rename my wifi...
BeTheParadigmShift ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:24:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When the firewall fell. His eyes open!
Jadziyah ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:49:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
!redditsilver
Oracle_at_Delphi ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:09:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/tenagra
katamuro ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:15:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ok I know I recognise this from somewhere but where? What is this a reference to?
Enalon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:24:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/3-wzr74d7TI
katamuro ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:00:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well...now I have to watch TNG again
kstiemsma ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:31:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, what does Shaka mean? I have a great uncle who does the handshake and says Shaka but I never knew what it meant
flaunteneer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:44:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Wikipedia article about the "shaka sign" says that it's "a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii." Its origin is uncertain.
kstiemsma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:52:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the explanation!
lostcosmonaut307 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:11:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SHAKA BRA!
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:49:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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felesroo ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:54:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Screw you, man. That was a GREAT episode.
kstiemsma ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:53:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the explanation!
blackcat122 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:05:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goin' all TNG on us.
PelonMusk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:33:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Renob, his name backwards.
CaptainTibbles003 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:43:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I've only just watched that episode for the first time a few days ago. I never thought I'd hear it here. ๐๐
WardoPo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:02:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my first time at reddit. Reading a reference like this made me drop a tear of joy, but I guess It's a common thing on forums. Dx
Xaccus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gently shakes phone hand after awkward pause Brah?
GlassMeccaNow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Han ma boo-kee, keelee ka-lya dooka.
zzyzxrd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shikaka when it goes through.
AmericanFromAsia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ready for the mosh pit, shaka brah
NX7145 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This entire thread is amazing
Lebagel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:22:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's circa 1 year old step daughter got one of those base flat pieces of lego and held it up to her face saying "blah blah blah" (she was too young to talk).
It was one of those moments for me where I realised there was a big disconnection between me and the younger generations.
QCA_Tommy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love you
Th3R00ST3R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shaka Khan?
bullet4mv92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shikaka?
JesusMaryandJoesph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ned, on an openfield
SteelerSuperFan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chenza at court, the court of silence
NetSysBastard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:16:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shaka bro.
We usually twist the wrist back and forth a few times.
[deleted] ยท 561 points ยท Posted at 17:15:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is just so weird to imagine. Yet I believe you 100%
rustybeancake ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 20:36:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me wonder if people a century ago were like "Call me!" [holds up one fist to their ear and the other in front of their mouth].
caulfieldrunner ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:06:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually think I remember that being something I heard talked about. Like, that being a way that secretaries would motion that there's a call for someone and things like that.
sueca ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:28:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also been asked by a child why I'm holding a phone to my head. He didn't know you can use it to make calls.
Av3ngedAngel ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 20:16:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? When I was a kid in the 90s we had those little plastic candy filled phones... How is this any different?
galacticboy2009 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 20:35:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand your comment at all, or how it's relevant.
Dogtag ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:49:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About twelve minutes to nine.
Av3ngedAngel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:26:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone's saying it's weird that children are embracing new technology. I gave an example of myself as a child embracing new technology, so like to people my parents age it may have seemed odd seeing toddler me play with a fake mobile phone just like some people now find it weird to see a toddler pretending to use a touchscreen. It's all totally normal in my opinion!
I hope that made more sense! :)
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:04:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's not that people are saying it's weird because it's an abnormal for children to do that, but moreso because the idea is so foreign to them. Like waking up in a country where people speak a different language from you - it's not weird for them to be speaking the language they know, but it sure would be a shock to your system, something you might describe as "weird".
ksa10 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:46:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're using the wrong gang signs to convey information. It ain't natural, I tell ya.
somethingmysterious ยท 259 points ยท Posted at 19:07:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Wow, that's very interesting. That's honestly something I never thought about. The flat-hand "call me" sign feels so awkward to me, haha. I never thought I'd experience this form of social gap.
[deleted] ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Stolichnayaaa ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who are these people that hold a phone up to their ear. It's very strange. I can't talk like that for more than about 30 seconds without reaching for the earbuds.
iglidante ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you make phone calls with earbuds in?
nandhp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Either like this, if your earbuds have a microphone, or like this otherwise.
NonaSuomi282 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or like this if you're not a fan of cables yanking on your inner ear with the full weight of a smartphone.
Internet_Adventurer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That feels so unnatural to me. It feels like I'm talking to myself
slicshuter ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 20:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feel like it'd be hard to tell the difference between 'sleep' and 'call me' too.
Aging_Shower ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:04:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you know when you put your hand behind your ear to show someone that you didn't hear. Kinda looks like that too.
ElBiscuit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:02:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eyes open vs eyes closed.
aurorasearching ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:10:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which way does your thumb go? I tried 3 positions and they all felt wrong
RDCAIA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you mean flat palm version or ๐คversion? ๐ค is thumb to ear. Wiggle it a little to replicate a ringing sound.
aurorasearching ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:59:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm talking flat palm version. I can't figure out how to make it not feel super awkward.
RDCAIA ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:04:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, Im confused too. I asked my son and he made a C-shape with his hand like he was holding a cellphone to his ear. The open end of the C would be facing your cheek. Could that be what they mean by palm? I don't know of any reason a flat palm could serve as a phone.
PoisedbutHard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:52:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would confuse the sign for sleep. ๐ด
--Edog-- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:29:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, are you saying kids stick a flat hand up to their ear like a smart phone instead of thumb and pinky?
madmaxine ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:36:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid I'd use my index and pinky as the phone so my thumb could be used as an antenna.
grntplmr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:50:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the point on that page that shaka "does not yet have an emoji representation" and then all the emoji examples of the "call me" hand are totally just shakas.
EatATaco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had no idea it was the call me hand. I was always like "people still use the hang loose hand?"
grntplmr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I've ever used it in text form, but will occasionally employ it physically, generally in a sarcastic manner.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't live around surfers i assume
ocschwar ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:09:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if they will know why grownups point to their left wrists when they get impatient.
Dark_Blade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not, smart watches are a thing now.
sheepboy32785 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:49:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always think of Inspector Gadget using his hand as a phone. He pulls the antenna out of his thumb.
luckyluke193 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:23:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would not have believed you if a friend had not recently told me that his daughter does that. Actually, I still found it hard to believe until I saw her actually doing it.
galacticboy2009 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:41:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still can hardly believe it.
I need to interrogate some of my young cousins at Christmas to get to the bottom of this.
SerBusterHighman ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:09:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the hang 10 hand
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:52:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:38:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been doing the same oops
Teantis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 34 and that emoji means hang ten or hang loose not a phone. You do that in real life but it only means a phone if you put it up to your face or mime putting it down.
Teantis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got confused by the emoji too. "kids have replaced hang ten/hang loose with a flat hand? How does that make sense?"
scrappleking ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think anything's ever made me feel older than that
visrali ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that meant hang loose, dang.
iBewafa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:08:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So...they hold their palm against their ear? That looks like your ear is in pain lol.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:06:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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OnyxPhoenix ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:02:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine doing an eye test with a 4 year old that has that old phone icon. Kid didn't know what it was if his life depended on it, nothing wrong with his eyes though. Wonder how many wrong diagnosis that caused.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:25:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Olly0206 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 16:35:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thumb/pinky sign? In some contexts it's used to symbolize holding a phone up to one's ear/mouth. I don't mean to condescend, but if you were unaware, older phones had a mic and receiver that where shaped in such a way so that when you held it in your hand, each end would be where your thumb and pink are in that gesture. One being at your ear and the other at your mouth. Not too dissimilar from smart phones but without speaker phone capabilities and the mic stretched further out away from the part you held on to.
In another context, in Hawaii it's derived from a guy, who's name I forget, worked for the Railroad company (I think? I forget some details) who had an accident and lost his middle three fingers. Being left with only his thumb and pinky. Instead of letting him go since he could no longer perform his primary function, he was re-purposed as a crossing guard of sorts to keep kids from playing on the train tracks and potentially killed. When he waved he only had the thumb and pinky. So the kids would wave at each other that way to signal to the others that he was or wasn't around and they could cross or play without his interference.
petit_bleu ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:15:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I going crazy or do most people still have home phones like these? I definitely do, as do most (young) people I know. People in this thread are talking about it like it's a rotary phone or something.
shevrolet ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 17:20:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like these threads are full of people who don't have jobs. Like 99% businesses have at least one landline phone. If you work in an office, you probably still have opportunity to use a fax machine.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:24:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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shevrolet ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:51:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in my experience.
Dotjiff ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:00:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Currently at my desk at an office job, I have a corded phone. I'm not going to be using my personal phone for work calls...
SuperKato1K ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:48:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, also sitting at my desk with a corded office phone in front of me. Granted, it has a screen and video-call capability, but still there's the cord. lol
Publix_Deli ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My office doesn't have desk phones any more. We have earpieces that connect wirelessly to a dongle on our computer.
galacticboy2009 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget ur dongle
ledivin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:47:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people I know don't have a home phone, but everyone still knows what it is. They're in businesses, the occasional home, etc.
bienvenueareddit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:51:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am 28 and honestly cannot remember the last time I saw a landline phone in real life (besides when visiting my grandmother).
BoaGirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:43:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother is 30 and they have a landline at their house.
OUTFOXEM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might pay to leave your house once in awhile. Any business you go to will have a landline, and yes, you've seen them.
not_your_parental ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I can think of only one job where we had a landline. Everywhere else phone calls were made through Skype.
bienvenueareddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of the places I regularly go (my home, my friends' homes, my office, my gym, convenience/grocery stores, various bars), the first three categories definitely don't have them, and if the latter three have them they are not in my vision.
Olly0206 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:27:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have one like this anymore. My family got rid of it before I ever moved out 15 or so years ago. We all got cellphones and learned real quick we didn't need a land line anymore.
I'm seeing a variety of things throughout this thread where, presumably, younger people don't know about things that I thought were still very common, like a land line telephone.
galacticboy2009 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My family hasn't had a home phone for about 4 years or so.
We never used it, so, it was kind of useless to us.
At my workplace they are all wireless landline phones with base stations.
But of course I grew up with corded phones being the only phones besides my parent's Nokia 3310 cellphones.
notvirus_exe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I rented a spot in 2001 and the landlord was all quick to appologize for the Rotary phone on the wall. He said he would get it removed asap. I insisted he not. We barely had nokia cell phones, but them days still needed landlines for shit like my AOL dial up. People would love to fool w it when they came over. Often if the cordless was dead or couldn't find it, we'd dive for that wall phone. "Hang on bro I'm stuck to the fkn wall lemme ring u back when i find my cordless." Dialing a number felt like an eternity on that thing but was somehow fun to me. The sound of dialing is what intruiges me. Bzt_bzztztztztztztzt.
Enriquehotpantz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was really hoping you were u/shittymorph
Olly0206 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I get the reference?
Enriquehotpantz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heโs reddit famous for making long, seemingly knowledgeable comments and then seamlessly transitioning it into a sentence about The Undertaker in Hell in a Cell in 1998
Not really โhopingโ more expecting.
Olly0206 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oooooh. Neat.
I think I've seen the user name before. Mentioned I think. Never knew what it was all about though. Now I'm curious to find one of his posts.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:00:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Olly0206 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Will do. Thanks!
424f42_424f42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS is what i associate that emoji with
Olly0206 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's derived from the Hawaiian origin. I believe it transitioned from kids waving it at each other as a sign that it's ok to play on the tracks to surfers waving at each other to signal that the surf is safe/good. That, I believe, is where the added "hang ten" saying came from as well. I'm not real smart and have no experience surfing but I believe "hang ten" has something to do with surfing.
Namika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're imitating talking into one of these
abloblololo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
example
DeusSolaris ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:56:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This...makes me kinda sad :/
simple1689 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Talk to to the hand cause the face ain't listening?...shit that's not how it goes?
A_BOMB2012 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The shaka brah sign?
benjavari ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was the bodacious emoji.
goontzz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
flat hands from my mama use to mean know your role mofo, she use to always show ther backhand
ohh yeaahhh
Whoa_Bundy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:22:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh thatโs interesting. My 5 and 3 year old use the old hand sign but then again my wife is deaf so we use ASL in the house.
Samcian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm teaching drama to 12-13 year olds, so this is actually really interesting to me, as kids of those ages still all, without fail, use the thumb/pinky one, is it just with younger kids that they do the flat hand, or is it ones around 12-13 as well?
NotGmoney5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That just killed me inside
P1h3r1e3d13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In ASL, ๐ค is used for phone and call generally. Cell phone is just the pinkie up, and laid along the side of the face, pointing toward the ear.
At least it was in SoCal 8 or 9 years ago. These things change in ASL, too, and I haven't kept up.
LerrisHarrington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a video, where somebody hand handed their old gameboy (the classic old school grey brick one) to a toddler, and the kid didn't try the controls. She was poking at the screen getting frustrated it wouldn't work.
This kid knew how to use the touch screen, but the d-pad and buttons were not intuitive to her.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:42:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe you
lost_in_thesauce ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:30:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work as a school based therapist for children in grades 4-6 and I have never seen anything like that. I mean, there's still phones other than smart phones out there. This is just someone/reddit blowing shit out of proportion
LukeStarswisher ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:22:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt like this at all
tsoccer93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The banana as a phone is on its way out :(
HysniKapo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get the mental image of a preschooler being utterly baffled by Bananaphone and Raffi having to re-record it as [insert name of cellphone-shaped food here]phone.
TrashMinky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Demonstration?
nahfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Emojipedia...
maxwell600 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So... jazz hands?
dkyguy1995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought that was supposed to be hang ten
penultimate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A good improviser would be doing the flat hand anyway.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the proper term for that is "Bendy Bone thing."
shadelz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No...NOOO IM AN OLD NOW!
Sh_doubleE_ran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So when im trying to get some moron to hang up the phone in traffic it'll just look like i want to karate chop them. (Which i do, sometimes a good chop can knock some sense into someone.)
IsyRivers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's totally tubular duuudes.
ebakerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... banana phone !
6chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does that mean slap me or call me then?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a simple fix, just bring back the N Gage.
COCAINE_ALL_DAY_BABY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry. What? WHAT?
Quinnarm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah geez, I thought this was the Hang Ten hand
occams--chainsaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? We did the hang signal before because we needed to represent a phone. We don't need to do that anymore. We already have our phones. The new signal is to just pull out your phone and point at it.
DiarrheaPocket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a trip recently with the basketball team I coach and the cheerleaders came along. Their coach is much younger than me (I'm 40) and I saw her pantomime to one of her kids to check if she had found her phone. She held her hands out in front of her and mimed texting. It dawned on me that I would have made the hang loose hand and put it to my ear for the same effect. Then I realized I'm old.
midnight_margherita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with sign language! Except they typically sign [letter i] & [flat hand "phone"] because most of the deaf community use iPhones due to FaceTime
interwebbed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh wow thats fucking crazy.
Or I'm just older than I thought fml
BlackLionFilm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL thereโs a website dedicated to explaining emojis
BrantisDank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a pretty big gang sign where I'm from
nzodd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least George Carlin would be happy... sorta.
Bears_Bearing_Arms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what if you're telling someone to hand loose?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this made me hold up a flat hand to my head.. and it did not feel right lol
tinyahjumma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You try to joke with kids by using a banana as a phone, and they donโt get it. Bah!
BlindSpotGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The hand sign for "hang loose?"
sunflowernat13o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Children using a flat hand is so weird to think about! I was talking about this thread with some friends and using a flat hand to show example was so awkward. It makes sense because that's essentially how we pick up and use smart phones for phone calls. This is so interesting.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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snowfeetus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:08 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happy birthday!... I hope. I had a notification on my phone for today all it said was your name.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean waving?
asshole_for_a_reason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I legit thought that was a thumbs up, and I was horrified (in my head I had a visceral reaction) that young kids donโt thumbs up now.
worrymon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then we can finally take it back for "hang loose?"
lphemphill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, does this mean banana phones are going to die? :(
almost_not_terrible ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounded a bit child abuse, but wasn't.
jfoust2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so old, I still use the two-hand one-to-the-ear, one-to-the-mouth candlestick phone pantomime.
LeBouz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it, like a wave? I'm too old for this shit
Excalibur54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I can understand both gestures. But if you think about it, they both still get the message to everyone. I mean, if you made an ok hand ๐ and held it up to your cheek, people would probably equate it to ๐คor โ.
OldTimeyGadget ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Until now I thought that emoji was the "tubular" gesture.
[deleted] ยท 1919 points ยท Posted at 16:13:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1787 points ยท Posted at 16:16:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sell phone systems to all of the minor and major global players in the telemarketing industry.
PM-ME-YOUR-BITCOINS ยท 4262 points ยท Posted at 18:16:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you considered doing something more ethical, like human trafficking?
TheAbyssGazesAlso ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 21:40:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, you mean like an Uber driver?
kingdead42 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:28:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GET OUT OF MY CAR!!!
gleeble ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:27:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just asked you a question in very educated manner.
ifitscool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been to oovoo javer
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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fenstabeemie ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:21:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I watched Ozark and now I don't agree with this anymore.
soapgoat ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:55:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i perform black market abortions for poor people... i like to think im picking up where hitler left off :)
Bombast- ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:38:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, as long as it is sterile and safe, I think you would be having a net-positive impact on people who can't afford the operation normally.
(hypothetical within a hypothetical, can we go deeeeeper?)
jrhiggin ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:16:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if I did wash the staircase before pushing them down it I don't think I could make it any safer.
BowjaDaNinja ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:32:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people are sterile now, does that count?
SubcommanderMarcos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:08:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... Abortions don't make people sterile, dude
Coomb ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:10:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Improperly performed they sure as hell can.
Bombast- ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:16:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if you're REALLY incompetent at performing abortions, the man can become sterile.
SubcommanderMarcos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:17:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well sure I guess. Can make them dead too, but we're straying from the point I think
Coomb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are we? We're talking about black market abortions here.
SubcommanderMarcos ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:06:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, yes. They can doesn't mean they will. We can debate the risks associated with black market abortions, and we'll probably agree on most if not every aspect, but proper abortions, legality aside, don't make one sterile in theory, which is enough to negate what the other guy said about abortion patients being all sterile.
BowjaDaNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The original comment mentions continuing Hitler's work. Sorry, I won't make any more comments that aren't 100% serious.
Ubersupersloth ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:56:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not according to those who believe Abortion is murder which is a not insignificant number of people.
MyHatIsAPigeon ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:11:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Presumably those people are not black market abortion shopping.
ComaVN ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:29:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be amazed
funnyonlinename ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:00:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://nypost.com/2017/10/04/anti-abortion-congressman-reportedly-asked-mistress-to-abort-baby/
Erityeria ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:51:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just their daughters are.
Ubersupersloth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't say they were. I said they'd disagree on it having a net positive impact (since, y'know, they believe it's murder).
no1_vern ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:30:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And take a significant cut in pay? LOL, No, thank you.
sanemaniac ยท 339 points ยท Posted at 16:39:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best possible answer.
Reddits_Worst_Night ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:19:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it's actually OP
graintop ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:58:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Though telemarketers use headsets...
Jaffacakelover ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:32:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...which are plugged into a telephone's base unit, which still comes with a receiver (that barely ever gets lifted from its cradle).
Suburbanturnip ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:13:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily, voip with a head seat and a computer is also very common.
RyudoKills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Work in a customer service call center for a medium-sized company. All I have is my headset, plugs directly into my PC.
outphase84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:30:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily. I'm in the same industry as OP, and the vast majority of inbound and outbound contact centers are either already softphone based, or moving towards softphones.
Roro_Yurboat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
do you remember the old headset setups where a mechanical device would lift the handset from the cradle when you made or answered a call?
smokinbbq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still have those for some phones. The difference between that, and a regular headset is that the one that lifts it up, allows the user to answer the phone remotely.
If you have a regular headset, or even a wireless headset, you need to hit a button on your phone to answer it. You have some buttons on your headset, but they are for volume up/down, mute, and to turn off the headset.
With the model of headsets that actually lift the receiver, you can be 20' from your desk, and if you hear it ring, you hit a button on the headset, and it lifts the receiver, and then answers the call for you.
tampers_w_evidence ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He does a business
MiyamotoKnows ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best possible confirmation.
UndomestlcatedEqulne ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:27:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. I manufacture 83% of all phones sold worldwide and I have to disagree with you.
Colgate2in1 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:56:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must be knackered
penny_eater ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:40:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do they look like bendy bones? I suspect 99% of telemarketing systems are headset based (if its not on your head you arent making money)
hatsarenotfood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have 6 phones on my desk right now and though they are all different they all have traditional handsets.
YellowSucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Company I work with handles calls through a headset but it's still hooked up to an actual phone, we just don't use it often.
Publix_Deli ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:28:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lmao
Idiot_Savant_Tinker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it's YOUR fault.
outphase84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aspect, Genesys, or NICE?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
JOKE
OHIMEMBERTUBS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what your saying is itโs going out of business in the United States?
modom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you sell phones and phone accessories?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nextiva?
southernbenz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nextiva is fine if you can get a good manager. Our Nextiva manager sucked and we eventually complained to his boss enough that we're now assigned a new manager and he's awesome. We like it for our clients though, because that "20 second answer time" (or whatever it is now) for Nextiva tech help is certainly great.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You worked for them? Or still do? I know James Murphy.
P1h3r1e3d13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where it's antiquated not because of cell phones, but headsets.
im_not_a_grill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted The Story of the Hoover Dam
ass2ass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their phones aren't what should be hanged.
210hayden ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:37:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
daaaamn
TeholBedict ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:45:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy Reddits.
daqq ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:15:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So... Avaya?
outphase84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Avaya doesnโt compete in the outbound space. Like, at all.
Zelcron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, most Avaya models I work with have hand sets.
danny0wnz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
!redditsilver
PM_Me_Rude_Haiku ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:18:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My desk phone at work is at a 45 degree angle, so I'm not sure whether I'm hanging up the bendy bone thing or just putting it down. I might tip it up further to see if it will genuinely hang.
throway_nonjw ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:51:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the old phones in the movies, where you held the earpiece in one hand and talked into a little trumpet on the phone itself. When finished, you literally hung the earpiece on the lever which disconnected you.
chumswithcum ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:50:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the phones at my work, there's a little insert in the earpiece cup that you can remove and put in the other way, doing so makes a little piece of plastic stick out that nest in a slot in the earpiece, so that the phone does indeed hang if you elect to mount it on a wall.
Gristlybits ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:40:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most phones that have even a possibility of being hung up have that in some form.
mr-fahrenheit_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:53:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On those desk phones there should be a slot on the bottom of the pocket for the earpiece that a small tab can slide in and out of which allows the handset to hang.
hatsarenotfood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a tab in the cradle that you can pull out to hang the handset on if you mount the set to a wall.
obitrice-kanobi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get to about 70 degrees before it falls off
FerretChrist ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:55:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OP meant that the origin of the expression is from when phones were commonly mounted on the wall, and you would literally "hang the receiver up" to terminate the call.
Whilst I can imagine there's the odd wall-mounted phone still around, I can't imagine it's common enough that it's relevant to the "a huge portion of the population".
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:05:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, i just noticed that the german term is "Auflegen" (Lay down/put down/etc.) because our phones didn't hang on the wall.
FerretChrist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's interesting - in English the phrase "put down the receiver" means the same as to "hang up", but just "put down" on its own doesn't have the same meaning.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MsLotusLane ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:25:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would still take it a little further to say even more recent wall-mounted phones don't exactly "hang" the way the original ones did. Like originally, the mouth piece could sometimes sway by the cord the way it hung on the mount.
rieoskddgka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:10:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I would say almost all places of business still use a land-line. The whole point is that it is a fixed location and not moving around. When you call a Doctors office you specifically want to speak with the person who is sitting at the front desk. When you call a retail store you want to know that they are definitely open for business because a human being picked up the phone at the desk.
CyanideNow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, at the desk. Not on the wall, so the worker still does not literally hang up the phone when the call is complete.
rawbface ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:31:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm looking at a phone with a coiled cable and earpiece right now.... my building has hundreds of them. They're not obsolete.
CyanideNow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it mounted on a wall?
rawbface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them are.
Art_Vandelay_7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a phone at my office, but I connect to it using my computer and use a wireless headset, so i never really pick it up or hang it up.
Sector_Corrupt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in an office as a software developer & while I technically have a work number, it just forwards to my personal cellphone. We don't have physical phones at our desks.
There is a phone room for taking calls, and several meeting rooms have phone systems, but they're all generally all speakerphones, and even then they're used infrequently compared to video calls via our laptops.
ben_neb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not the person you asked, but I work in IT, and the last two places I've worked, we've done a roll-out of IP phones to replace all physical phones.
I'd imagine the existence of "real" phones in the office workplace is not going to be a thing much longer.
EJ2H5Suusu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IP phones are still mostly landlines with traditional handsets you pick up and hang up, they just transmit digital audio instead of analog. That's not going away anytime soon because wired audio quality, especially through a network contained in a building, is better and way more reliable than audio over wireless networks.
ben_neb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should have been more clear, IP Phones with software front-ends only. Cisco IP Communicator, and things like that. I guess you could still say that you are "hanging up" your USB headset when you're done with the call, though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unemployed people
paper_plains ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This still not the original origin of "hang up the phone." What we do now is more place the phone in it's base. The original terminology was created from phones that had a manual ear piece you held in one hand and the microphone you held in the other. The ear piece had a hook you would hang it from when not in use. I'd be hard pressed to ever think you had a job that used these: old timey telephone
If your referring to "dial", the same applies. a dial is actual a disk, which in this case referred to the rotary dial of old phones. See the definition for further clarification. Also hard pressed to think you've had a job with rotary phones.
suckmypenisfukmygoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most modern office phones don't require you to actually hang the phone on a hook when you're done though.
mishasyeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is an example of a second degree semantic shift (I think that's the right term?).
We think of "hanging up a phone" as having shifted from putting a receiver in a cradle to simply any form of ending a call. But it shifted TO putting a receiver in a cradle from literally taking the earpiece and lifting it to a head-level hook of a wall mounted phone. Literally "hanging" the receiver "up". Not to say there aren't still raised, mounted phones, but far far fewer of them than there are receivers.
helix19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you put it down or do you hang it up on the wall? Old phones used to actually hang on the wall.
Buckwild58 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a phone but have a headset.
Neosovereign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are they on the wall? if not, you are not hanging them. You are putting them down.
VDukeIX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But very few phone's still "hang" on the box. Does your workplace have phone's that are mounted to the wall with a hook that the receiver hangs on? They are still out there, but pretty few and far between. Usually you just set the phone down, not hang it up.
Dutchdodo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most home phones I've seen are the portable ones with base stations.
theWyzzerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even then most people just push the end call button to hang up. The receiver on the phone doesn't really hang anywhere. It just rests in its resting place. Plus, ear pieces and headsets; most of the time I don't touch my phone's handset.
experts_never_lie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For years, I've found that few people have phones in my offices. Office landlines appear to be used only by cold-calling recruiters and vendors, and as such wind up being just a liability.
busterbluthOT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Placing the receiver in the dock isn't "hanging up the phone" as the original phrase. On old earpiece phones, you'd literally hang up the earpiece.
Mikuro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't remember the last time I saw a phone where you actually hang the receiver. Some pay phones, I guess, which are exceedingly rare nowadays.
Desk phones don't hang; they rest.
Dont____Panic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the desk I use when Iโm visiting the office, a handset exists. Iโve never once used it. Between the attached headset and my mobile, it just has never left the cradle under my power.
HolySimon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Opening a phone conversation by asking "where are you" is also a new phenomenon, as prior to 2000-ish, you generally had to know where someone was in order to call them.
moderate-painting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son saw one of those and said "Whoa I'm in the Matrix!"
max_p0wer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you actually hang it up? Like the bottom of the phone is dangling? Maybe youโre not really hanging up either.
meukbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://imgur.com/a/hLfGE is a telephone you hang up (the receiver is hanging)
https://imgur.com/a/NxJu6 and everything newer is a telephone that you "put down".
I'm pretty sure you don't hang up the phone, but put it down.
KittyChimera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have worked a lot of businesses where your handset for your phone is replaced with a headset (wireless or not) and you hit a button instead of physically hanging up a phone, so it isn't only mobile phones.
Angdrambor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Software Engineer here. I don't asnwer the phone, but we have a few wireless handset floating around and a positively Ancient polycom on the conference table. All of these thigns have real, physical buttons that you push to dial or hang up.
MisterEvilBreakfast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But if we're talking about kids, they probably aren't working in offices or restaurants.
Ryslin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sort of. We don't actually "hang" the phone anymore. The phone used to hang from (typically) metal bars that were attached to the holder, perpendicularly to the wall. The way the phone rested on those bars was in a hanging position. Now, when using landlines, we typically "lay down the phone" in the holder that's on the desk. Sometimes the holder is on the wall, but even then, the phone doesn't hang from the holder. It's placed securely into a compartment.
HotrodCorvair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. You set the handset down on modern phones. You're not hanging the ear peice "up" onto the switch that literally disconnects the call. You didn't set a handset down back then, you "hung it up".
Semantics, but we are discussing semantics, so I wanted to point that out.
toth42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahem.. You don't literally hang out up, do you? You lay it down, so you actually just used another term fitting the post :)
coherent_days ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a large MNC in nordic Europe, everyone has a company issued mobile phone, no desk phones around. Even at the reception. Although our colleagues in Germany are a bit more old fashioned and still use desk phones. Maybe depends from the country.
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The origin of the expressio actually comes from the very old style of phone which had a separate earpiece and mouthpiece. To end a call, you would hang the earpiece back on the vertical piece. Even with rotary phone or modern landline phones, you're not really "hanging" the receiver, so much as you are just setting it on the base.
The type of phone with the earpiece and mouthpiece integrated into the same handle was already popular by the 1940s, so "hang up" is actually like 70 years out of date.
sonofaresiii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very few phones actually hang anymore. It's not about manual or digital, it's that they don't hang like they used to.
vdthemyk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More and more offices are moving to mobile phones for field people or a phone service through the computer for desk shackled employees.
EJ2H5Suusu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until wireless audio transmission beats wired audio transmission in quality (which I personally believe will be never), wired telephone systems will always have homes in business. Using a standard Cisco internal phone system is an absolute treat compared to the audio quality we've gotten used to on mobile networks. In most cities, there is a fiber network between most buildings and calls between buildings are also very clear. Wired phones aren't going anywhere they're too nice to use.
NDaveT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in an office and my "phone" is a headset that plugs into my computer. The phone software is Skype.
There are VOIP phones that work with our system, but they cost a couple hundred bucks and the headset is like $15, so I get a headset.
formerPhillyguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think about it for a minute. Do you "hang the phone up" or set it down? Original phones hung on the wall. Now, most are counter/desk top and don't hang, so, even though the person you responded to has seemingly never experienced a home/business phone, we don't hang the phone any more.
ritchie70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work for a Fortune 200 company. We're moving to new offices in the spring, and they're going to issue everyone a cell phone rather than have desk phones.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister-in-law still uses a landline. She has a cell phone but never uses it. I got rid of my landline in 2015 and started using my cell phone for all calls. It felt strange to me at first because I am 63 and have always had a landline.
EntroperZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a programmer, I've never understood why my office needs VoIP phones at every desk, in addition to a hardwired ethernet connection. Like, there's already an IP network in place, why do you need two of them? Give me a headset and Skype/Google Voice/whatever.
someoldbroad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I havenโt had an office phone in 7 years! I donโt have any clients who donโt use an online service like Skype or webex, either. I think the last time I used a phone was to order room service in a hotel
shpongleyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have soft phones at work, so hanging up is just clicking the button on Skype.
u8eR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's true for a lot of office and desk jobs. I work in retail and we use cordless phones.
Mythodiir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly the same. Every job I've had we at least have 1 landline. Millenials still know what a landline phone is, and picking up the phone is important in most jobs. They aren't extinct. You just don't need to own one personally.
catsloveart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. But in this economy...
dorky2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never had a job where the phone was mounted on the wall and needed literally to be "hung up" when finished with the call. All of my office phones have been desktop models and my retail and food service jobs have had cordless phones that cradle on a shelf.
llewkeller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do they still call the thing you hang up non-cell phones on - the "hook?" This is from early phones when you actually hung up the separate earpiece on a hook. But by the 1940s, you hung up the combined ear/mouthpiece (receiver) on a flat platform with 2 buttons.
I know we still use the term "off the hook" for crazy.
smartstuff14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telecommunications companies use software to interface with the phones and rarely touch the physical handset. This is because of advanced integration between the systems and phone network but also because they can monitor everything that way. I worked in a call centre for 4 years. Never hung up a phone because you couldn't. You have to click the end call button.
woahhhface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Landlines are still standard for most businesses yet the number of times adults ask me if I can "just text them" their information is astounding.
KyleGG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Big businesses rely on the switch-style telephone system for internal communications. It allows them to create their own distributed telecommunications network and feed it though to the outside world how they see fit. Whether it be encryption, security safeguards, outside access, etc.
NightGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a huge corporation. One of those ones you've definitely heard of. There isn't a single 'real phone' in our entire building outside of the security desk. The rest of us use soft phones.
Eivetsthecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but it's been compartmentalized to be common at work. If I'm not there and I think of hanging up or using a phone, the old school version isn't even a passing thought. If I'm at work it is.
gooniesneversaydye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously... you don't have auto dial for every person in the world. Not serious.
civex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The origin is with this phone, where you literally hang the phone.
May I suggest that with modern office phones, you don't 'hang it up,' you return the phone to its cradle. Even the old dial phones weren't literally hung up -- they were returned to their cradles.
EtherealCelerity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really, and you use one of these? http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MzAwWDMwMA==/z/krcAAOSwR0JUNg6S/$_35.JPG?set_id=2
If not, then it's not really "hanging," is it?
Clbull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in two call centres. I donโt think Iโve seen a proper landline phone in ages. Our telephone sets used cheap Plantronics headsets and not actual curve-shaped receivers.
majinspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a truck dispatcher, I'm on the phone all day. People like us use wireless headsets; we don't actually pick up the phone to call unless we forget to put the headset on it's cradle/charger properly.
livevil999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up was referring to how people would literally hang the phone on the wall back when rotary phones were a thing. The phone would literally hang there, not rest at a 45 degree angle on a desk.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Every office I've worked in has proper desk phones. They're much better for long conversations
sephlington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are your phones on a wall? When you end a call and put the phone down, is it hanging, suspended by the speaker? If not, youโre not hanging up the phone, youโre โhanging upโ.
Atomicrex2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes even in an office, the latest state of the art Voip systems still mostly have a conventional handset.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AStrangeStranger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For last 3 years we haven't had phones on most desks in office - we had VOIP phones that look a bit like a traditional phone, but now if you have a phone it is just a piece of software on your laptop that connects via network to exchange. But almost all verbal communication is done via Business Skype or Webex style meetings so no need for phones for most of us.
mrterrbl ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:26:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As soon as quantum clocks are widely available in cell phones, those "hang up" phones will disappear.
DrunkenShitposter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:35:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, not for a long time...
spyro86 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:40:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until the age of 18 when are kids going to interact with a corded phone with a base? Home phones are almost nonexistent if my friends and family are anything to go by, so even cordless phones are something rare.
SidViciious ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:43:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lot of workplaces have headsets now, because then you can use your hands to do stuff whilst on the phone
jbuck88 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:46:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sell medical sales
instantpancake ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:47:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But many kids and teenagers these days have never worked any of those jobs (yet), so they may in fact be pretty unfamiliar with this type of landline phones.
the_agox ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:54:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More and more people with desk jobs don't have phones on their desks. When 90% of my business communication is via email, a desk phone is a distraction device. The conference rooms have phones for conference calls, but it's easier to ignore the handset and use it as a speaker phone.
yepthatguy2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:59:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work for a company whose IT infrastructure has been upgraded in the past 25 years.
StabbyPants ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:59:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i have a desk phone in my office. i use it monthly. prior job, it was in my desk. because i never used it.
s0rce ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:00:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heh, I work for a bay area start up now, we don't have phones, everyone just uses their personal cell.
gibson_se ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:10:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surprises me... The rest I get: one place where you don't care which of several people you talk to. But offices? Where I live, everyone has a cell phone and no desk phone.
Humaniser ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:06:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in an office. We have very few โrealโ phones in a building with 1000+ employees. Most use Skype for Business or their company provided mobile phones. Even those โrealโ phones around, use speaker phones or are portable, so no real hang up gesture.
someguy3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just made be realize we're going to get kids entering the workforce that have only ever used cell phones. A work phone might be the first time they see a 'normal' phone.
BetYouCantPMNudes ยท 800 points ยท Posted at 15:35:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even calling it a phone is a total misnomer. Now it's a computer with phone capabilities
Canuhandleit ยท 689 points ยท Posted at 16:30:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use the clock feature much more than the phone feature.
BetYouCantPMNudes ยท 286 points ยท Posted at 16:31:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it's a watch?
Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 880 points ยท Posted at 16:58:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More specifically, a pocketwatch.
UGMadness ยท 650 points ยท Posted at 17:29:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only took a hundred years, but we've come full circle.
DontTreadOnBigfoot ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 17:55:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it's about damn time!
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:33:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is possibly the best pun Iโve seen on reddit
drot525 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:40:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Timing is everything.
Saviorofthe_Universe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen THE pun?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:01:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess not
Saviorofthe_Universe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/cfbkx/im_85_certain_that_there_is_an_adult_actress_in/?st=JAU6QGED&sh=422fd33c
GruesomeCola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, time is a flat circle, So....
RearEchelon ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:10:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"They have pay phones now? Thank God, I won't have to carry around this cell phone anymore." throws phone in trash
PelagianEmpiricist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:13:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One day you can probably get disposable 3D printed smartphones from kiosks.
MasteringTheFlames ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:22:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We've come full circle, and now that smart watches are a thing, we're starting round two
Pocket watch -> wrist watch -> cell phone (pocket watch 2.0) -> smart watch
PandaAttacks ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:52:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So next is a smart phone?
Pxzib ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, but where, and on what?
PM_ME_REACTJS ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:47:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my brain, displayed on my eyelids.
telegetoutmyway ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:06:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you have to close your eyes to use it? No thanks. Display it directly to my retinas and turn off the display with its technopathic signal commanding.
PM_ME_REACTJS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously while your eyes are closed, a camera is recording the outside world to display under everything. Like google glass.
Thrabalen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. I want cybernetics. I want a virtual HUD printed over my vision, so I can always see what time it is, or what temperature, or what my blood sugar and pressure are. I want to watch TV with a streaming video connection directly to my optic nerve.
telegetoutmyway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're not as far as you think... with CRISPR maybe we'll live long enough to see it too. And look 20 while we're at it.
Kim_Jong_OON ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Attached to your arm. 3d visual display pops out of it. A few buttons, but that's just the old model.
Pxzib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am gonna wait for the next model. Don't want to dish out money for first-gen.
Kim_Jong_OON ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're taking out the aux cord plug in with that release.
Pxzib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do I need yet another dongle for that? I already have a big one attached to me.
Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But how will you replace it every six months?
Kim_Jong_OON ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's made to come off and on?
Montigue ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:00:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just like a watch :O
-Reddit_Account- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:14:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently saw an actual analogue pocket watch and I was so fucking tempted to buy it.
acolyte_to_jippity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
do it, they're fucking awesome. at least if you get a decent one.
Escritor_Boliviano ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:23:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technology is cyclical
Keepem ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually only takes 60 minutes to go full circle, maybe you should get it checked
ReluctantPost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:35:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So has the "tablet" and the "scroll" for that matter.
Appetite4destruction ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, weโre still on the rectangle.
SSPanzer101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
250+ years.
sweetcuppingcakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if you are dialing 0.
CreamSoda64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Frank9567 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean we've rewound?
Telinary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still waiting for a convenient gold chain connecting it to my breast pocket.
Ucantalas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But theyโre rectangular
Belgand ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:54:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This has always been my response when someone would say that wristwatches are pointless and they just tell time with their phone. The wristwatch was developed and became ubiquitous for a reason. It solved a problem. Having to dig a watch out of your pocket and open it was tedious compared to just glancing down at your wrist. In many cases your hands were busy or it would be a challenge to get a delicate, easily-damaged object out of a pocket. Using your phone is recreating the same situation.
Don't discount something just because you think it's "outdated". Try to understand why it came about in the first place and if your new version still solves the same problems.
Canuhandleit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:35:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wear a Fitbit mostly because it tells time.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed that. Lots of people that treat them more as a somewhat inconvenient (having to press a button vs. just looking at it) watch/trendy accessory than... well, a pedometer.
Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, pressing a button is more convenient than fishing a phone out of your pocket and pressing a button, so the pedometer is still a better-ish watch.
Vague_Discomfort ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:13:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With a $400 wristwatch peripheral.
Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oof
bagboyrebel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/23/samsung-pocket-watch/
Shiranui24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i want a phone that looks like a pocketwatch
Edit: IM GONNA MAKE A PHONE THAT LOOKS LIKE A POCKETWATCH!!
Vneseplayer4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt have a microwave oven, I have a clock that occasionally cooks shit
theathenian11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. A watch. It tells time...and nothing else.
Start time at 30 seconds. Canโt get it to work on mobile
Tasitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dick Tracy finally came true! I cand make phone calls with my pocketwatch.
Brightman42 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:15:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My most dialed number in the 90s was probably to an automation thing that told me the time and current local temperature. Iirc it was a bank.
SHOCK_VALUE_USERNAME ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use the porn feature much more than the clock feature.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably use my Notepad app more than anything else.
necbone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use the weather app the most..
461weavile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, I call it "my watch" more than I call it "my phone."
gu1d3b0t ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:57:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep trying to use the word 'pocket computer' in common language but nobody is having it.
OnyxPhoenix ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:04:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"terminal" is a pretty good term, used in sci fi a lot. If you think about it, most of what we use our phones for is accessing information or resources outside of the device itself, much like computer terminals of old.
experts_never_lie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pocket monster : Pokรฉmon :: pocket computer : Pokรฉcom
Cleave ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just call it the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy s8.
Kruse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pocket computer sounds like something from 1985.
ctilvolover23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since when did my landline become a computer?
Mike_Handers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give it time.
PaperPhoneBox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:47:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What's a computer?"
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:52:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Laptops, tablets, smartphones, desktops.....
PaperPhoneBox ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:59:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was referencing this
I hate that kid
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:51:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow what a dipshit.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:00:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured and I think every time of all computing items we still have.
PaperPhoneBox ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:02:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its a typical pretentious Apple ad.
-sent from my iPhone
Neoncow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in the day, a computer was a job. Literally a person who took mathematical formulas and calculated the answers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_computer
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually what Microsoft is calling their next big thing, the non-mobile, tiny device. If i remember correctly it's being titled an 'Ultraportable PC with telephony capabilities'.
Also, my dad calls smartphones small computers that also call all the time
deepestcreepest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Teleputer, TP. TP Link
alrightwtf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check out Gary Gullman. He's got a great bit about this.
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a phone first though. I got rid of my nexus 5 because the phone wouldnt work without earbuds or speakerphone. Just because it can do a million other things doesnt mean it's lost the original purpose. A swiss army knife is still a knife.
ImTheGuyWithTheGun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, or its a phone with computer capabilities. Goes either way. The "phone" aspect is critical -- that's what makes it different from, say, an Ipad.
theWyzzerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really...
As far as I know every cellular phone (which may also have other capabilities) still does this.
Crater_Escape ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes, no one is saying that smartphones can't make voice calls, but it really isn't their primary function. I would say it's possibly not even their secondary purpose. They are way more frequently used for internet usage and texting than anything else.
They really are just mini computers that give you the option of voice calling someone
BIRDLIFE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That depends on the user. Both my parent's iphones are primarily used for making calls.
Crater_Escape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, naturally some people make more calls than others and usage will vary from user to user and across demographics, but the primary purpose of a smartphone really isn't voice calling.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I overheard some kids describing a phone - "It's like an iPad, only it makes calls."
IsyRivers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then using your mouth hole to make sounds to someone else and they respond with their mouth holes to make sound, until the conversation is over.
Now it's a lot of texts and stuff.
Mage_Enderman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah a phone is the most Personal Computer(PC) for most people(including me my phone is probably more personal than my gaming laptop)
Halvus_I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pocket computer.
xyifer12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's just a phone. I pick up the receiver, hold the cord out of the way, enter the number, and that's it.
Crocodilewithatophat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its the conjunction of 3 equally important devices. The phone, the handheld computer, and the digital camera.
Neoncow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mobile computer.
Kruse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to Apple, it's not a computer.
Speaking-of-segues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what's a computer?
JamesTrendall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If i could run my Steam games on my phone using a wifi keyboard/mouse i seriously would. Running the games on my 4k screen (Whatever my phone has) can't be worse than playing @420p @15FPS
stringdom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suggest we definitely change it to 'terminal'.
LerrisHarrington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have that problem.
I think of it as my phone, but every so often when its acting up I bitch about it to a friend, and they ask if I've rebooted it recently.
I keep forgetting the damn thing is really a tiny computer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A computer with voip capabilities. Wi-fi calling is a thing now =O
AndrewZabar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every phone now is basically VOIP. Even a landline is once it gets from your home to the circuit location.
HilarityEnsuez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, phone calls are actually further down on the list than internet, driving GPS, Facebook messaging, photo taking, music playing and texting.
I personally always hoped another term caught on like "mobile device" or "modev". Smartphone works.
sendmeyourjokes ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 15:44:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean... I still have a phone on my desk at work, with buttons and everything.
violet-waves ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 16:25:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but you fail to recognize that your association of โdialโ with a push button phone is already outdated. Itโs a callback to when we made the adjustment from operator switchboards to automated switching systems and the rotary telephone. The โdial toneโ replaced an operator indicating that you were connected and able to use the dial on your phone to place a call.
THE_LURKER__ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:50:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just like a phreaker in a movie I once used a phone that only had a 0 to push for the operator to make a collect call actually make an outside phone call by tapping the receiver hangup in a series of pushes indicating the number I wanted to call. All that practicing at home as a kid, all those phone demarcation boxes, dicking around with payphones and tone generators, actually causing damage with a brown box... and the culmination of it all was surreptitiously calling my girlfriend from county lockup. I miss the days of pulse dialing, tiny ISPs, and small dial in servers for BBSs and whatnot.
Mithrandir_Earendur ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once found an old phreaker handbook on the darkweb and it made me realize how complicated the phone systems are/were.
THE_LURKER__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:29:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When digital switching started to be implemented everywhere we started to see a lot of old tricks stop working because the infrastructure wasn't simple anymore. Most tricks relied on audible tones, timed voltage drops, or other external means of tricking the system into providing an existing function.
Juicy_Brucesky ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:37:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he wasn't responding to dial, he was responding to the hang up the phone comment. Get your shit together
dacoobob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:39:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase "hang up" a phone is also outdated even for landline phones. It comes from the days when the earpiece literally hung on a hook on the side of the phone. For example
stilesja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when I first used a cell phone and it didn't have a dial tone. I pressed talk to get the dial tone and then I started pressing numbers. That didn't work. Had to have it explained that you entered the numbers first then pressed talk.
MrCrash ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:01:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they just took my phone away. saying "just use Skype"
fool! my desktop machine does not have speakers or a microphone.
runasaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do too, but its not bendy bone shaped... its one of these bricky things
Reddits_Worst_Night ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird. I've always used soft phones or mobile, depending on the job
GodMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep trying to, but being the IT guy it's usually my desk phone that's the first to go when someone breaks one and needs it replaced ASAP. We can't seem to order spares as fast as users can destroy them.
robbzilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't. They took that away and loaded Cisco software on my laptop.
brannana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did up until a few weeks ago. Now I have a set of headphones with a mic, and my desk "phone" is an application on my laptop.
yepthatguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What for?
squiggleslash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But does it hang on the wall? I think the last time I saw a phone that you could realistically say you were "hanging up" and mean it literally was in a hospital. And even that... I'm not sure that actually is where the term comes from, I think it comes from the old "candlestick" phones that used to have a stand, a microphone at the top of the stand, and a hook for a removable ear piece.
Illustrations are better, so example of "Modern, but being phased out" type of phone you'd still "hang up", and an example of a candlestick phone
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but do you hang it up or do you just put it down on its base?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:53:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We just removed ours
cdrt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure it's really a phone and not just a computer shaped like a phone? That's the case with all of the phones in my office.
ZappySnap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because a lot of phones use VoIP doesn't make them not phones.
Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:57:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it hasn't really. Wall phones still exist.
Kobzor ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:33:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you hang up the phone yea or no?
Shakis87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait.
lemontrout85 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:59:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately there is a loss of being able to slam the phone on the hook for effect. Lost form of communication if you ask me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you just scream "GO FUCK YOURSELF!" and press END CALL. It gets the message across.
OutFromUndr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:06:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hang up my work phone every day.
yesanything ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:19:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahhh, but do you really "hang it" UP. Seems to me it has to be a wall mounted phone in order to be "hung UP"
Eat_Penguin_Shit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a wall mounted phone in one of the bathrooms at my office. The phone there gets โhung UPโ.
Damhna ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:55:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the basement of a tech museum my 10yo encountered a wall mounted pay phone and asked if I thought it was part of the exhibit. I told him...'well, check it for a dial tone and see'
Blank Stare.
The very concept of a dial tone was completely alien to him, he literally did not know how to execute the task I asked him to perform. He's never had or used a communication device that needed one.
lustywench99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Won't lie... I don't know the last time I used an actual phone. I don't have an office and when we call parents we are told to use our personal devices so I rarely make phone calls home. (Teacher)
I think it was over a year ago, but the last time I had to dial the phone from the office I had to hit a number and wait for the dial tone. That felt hard for me to understand momentarily.
At my last school we had a phone that you had to actually dial, like the spinny thing. I had to give up on that thing. I have trouble keeping numbers in order and after I'd spin like four numbers I'd forget which number I'd put in or question if I did them right so i had to keep starting over.
All of this makes me feel stupid. I can FaceTime someone in ten seconds. I can tell my car to call someone and it does. And you give me a real phone and I just stare at it. I haven't even had a house phone since my college apartment and that was for dial up internet because that's all we had around here... and I thought I was cool because I had the hook up for free internet then. That was in 2002.
Now I rarely talk on the phone at all. I mostly text. I just use it in the car since its hands free and if I do voice texting my phone comes up with lots of interesting words in place of what I was trying to say.
montrealcowboyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kid was watching some old cartoons, when a phone rang.
He did not understand the sound or the physical device as being a phone.
megapull ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, interesting. This made me realize that in hungary we implemented a new term for hanging up cellphones specifically.
Gunslinger1993 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. It never dawned on me until right now that this meant to hang the phone up literally because most phones were hung on the wall in the 80s. Mind blown...
theplasmasnake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... I hang up the phone all the time at work.
TheJKTurner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this. I told my three year old to 'hang up' the phone the other day and there was a lot of confusion. She is so use to video chats that she can't understand what a regular phone call is and that people can't always see what she is showing the phone. Hell, she doesn't even know cameras and phones are two different things. I gave up trying to explain and just told her to push the red button.
timthetollman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100% wrong considering office/house phones are still a thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of people have already said that, but your comment is my favorite so far.
timthetollman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet.
CaptSmileyPants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:08:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you think people would say these days if you didn't actually have to hang up the phone to end a phone conversation?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"End communication."
CaptSmileyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/totallynotrobots
ctilvolover23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have landlines in my house.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, this obviously doesn't apply to people who live in historical reenactments.
Edit: Anybody who takes issue with this, please go to zipwhip.com and enter promo code IHATEJOKES to get 20% off your first month of text-from-landline service to text me your complaints.
leftcoastsarah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was telling me that one of her students asked what that meant because they didnโt understand the phrase
Bamboozle_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"...and *69 that bitch!"
We used to throw that line about a lot as kids after the trailer for Scary Movie was on TV.
SereneLloydBraun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You used to call me on your rotary phone..." 1950's Drake, probably.
cmit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife still dials into a website. No, we do not have a 56K baud modem.
I_can_pun_anything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhhh, still valid in office environment.
Nomadicminds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thumb and pinkie to symbolise the phone....
MattieShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... but handsets still hang off the base on lots of modern phones... A lot of them still have the weird clip thing you can turn upside down so it can hang vertically like from a wall.
secretlyareddituser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, to "pick up" the phone.
bertbob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And few phones even have a bell to ring these days.
Mrslyguy66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or 'Phone' period. its basically a mobile computer used for everything except phoning people
jenkinsonfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โThis asshole pressed end on meโ doesnโt have the same effect
tssop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or phone in general. A lot of people never place calls on their cell phone. Or even if they do, wouldn't consider it the primary function.
attrujil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your karma almost doubled off 4 words
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it's not 1:1. The more upvotes you get for a comment, the slower the karma accumulates.
attrujil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's shitty. Never knew.
ruok4a69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And โroll up the windowโ.
Kiam79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a corded phone on my desk at work though. That one is not completely outdated.
DayDrmBlvr82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really miss the satisfaction gained from slamming the phone down on someone. Sigh.
MY-HARD-BOILED-EGGS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a theory that one of the reasons people seem so aggressive and/or easily irritable today is that they can't slam their phones after receiving bad news of any caliber. That used to be a wonderful and efficient way to channel one's anger; truly cathartic. Maybe we took it for granted.
scratchfury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it ringing off the hook?
Bloodysneeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not completely lost. I still have a desk phone at work.
But it's still a good example.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that we still call them phones is pretty ridiculous in itself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Young people don't know what satisfaction there is from slamming the phone down in someone's ear.
DrGoverno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best one with roll your windows down
DontMakeMeDownvote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That'll die with us I bet.
afganistanimation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off the hook
fnord_bronco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was the first thing I thought of.
Both of my parents' jobs require them to be "on-call" once in a while, so they still have a regular old copper-pair landline.
My Dad still sometimes calls the phone company "Southern Bell," even though they became South-Central Bell when he was in his teens. They then became BellSouth. Years after AT&T was broken up by the US government, BellSouth bought out AT&T and several former "baby bells" and renamed itself "the new AT&T." So "the new AT&T" is really just "the old Southern Bell."
Gerden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HAHA I ALWAYS CHOOSE TO SAY โEND TRANSMISSIONโ AS A HUMOROUS WAY TO END A CALL. HAHA.
acm2033 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial, ring... operator
DAHTLAEETE2RDH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My school still has rotary dial phones in some classrooms. It's painful watching teachers try to call different classrooms.
I'd hate to think what would happen in an emergency...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came looking for this one.
Nilirai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still get to do this on my corded work phone.
People really do get the message that they pissed you off when you hang up with a slam
nolnisking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, "the phones off the hook."
Ninonskio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you called me!
gmurray81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always said "it's engaged" due to where I grew up. I'm not sure the derivation. Maybe this referred to the operator being engaged with managing other connections? Or perhaps just the recipient being engaged in another call?
RockyMountainRain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like leaving the phone off the hook
kirkbywool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, most homes and offices still use phones that you physically need to hang up
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:54:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
End the call
ohcole ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:34:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
bklyntrsh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:47:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up too
Stmpnksarwall ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:09:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or "hold the phone"
ConcernedEarthling ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:10:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget "checking the answering machine". I still say it, even though I use a voicemail app on a smartphone.
xyifer12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:53:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Answering machines didn't go the way of VHS yet.
ConcernedEarthling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you forgotten answering machines recording messages on casettes? Answering machines have gone the way of the VHS the same way that CDs went the way of the record. Answering machines are definitely a valid comparison.
xyifer12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:19:45 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you forgotten answering machines recording to a memory card?
It's not at all a valid comparison. The answering machine uses a different storage medium and is still around, VHS is completely replaced.
DA_KING_IN_DA_NORF ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention phones don't even look like the "phone" icon anymore
Canuhandleit ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:32:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In offices they do.
jb4334 ยท 459 points ยท Posted at 19:05:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
News organizations are still called the press after the printing press.
DrossSA ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:54:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're called fake news now
stealthdawg ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:17:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And they still advertise as โLate Breakingโ even though they broadcast in real time and 24/7.
vivi33 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:40:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a newspaper company, we still have a printing press, of course, and it still uses thin aluminum sheets for the "plates".
So, we still are the press, and we still use the press...
going_for_a_wank ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:49:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And such a press does literally "press" the ink into the paper, so the name is still accurate.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I refer to them as โthe blogsโ now, haha.
Shaddy_the_guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, there definitely still is printed news media. It is dying out, but it hasn't completely disappeared
El_Cartografo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FAKE NEWS!
rob64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still call them news organizations, too, even though they're actually Twitter aggregators now.
SassyMoron ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:48:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
even "media" is kind of archaic when you think about it (I'm reading it online - no physical medium involved)
Mysterious_Mr_E ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:58:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would still make it a digital medium.
DrossSA ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:54:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
your computer screen is a physical medium
CrumpetMuncher ยท 7442 points ยท Posted at 15:28:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Flashing" the bios, for the geeks among us. It used to mean peeling back a sticker and exposing the chip to light.
lt_dan_zsu ยท 1243 points ยท Posted at 16:16:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did this work?
TriStrange ยท 2797 points ยท Posted at 16:27:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory (EPROM) chips had a window on them that exposed the chip to light. You exposed the chip to UV light to erase it so that it could be reprogrammed.
Now we have Electrically Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory (EEPROM), which is much faster and easier to erase and reprogram.
fanboat ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 18:47:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's Read-Only Memory, but you can write to it!
Then why do you call it 'Read-Only' Memory?
Because you can't write to it.
But you said you could.
That's what makes it so great!
PCKid11 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:56:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
((E)EP)ROM is used for situations where the data won't change much, like firmware, and flash memory is used for situations where it will change a lot, like an SSD or your phones storage
fanboat ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:03:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed, it functions as ROM with a modicum of flexibility. I've always thought it was interesting though how ROM which can be edited by internal means is a misnomer on some level; reading is not the only interaction the memory can have.
Tutush ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:16:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything that's read-only can be written to at some point. Otherwise you wouldn't want to read it.
fanboat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:31:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'at some point' though could easily be an irreversible point of manufacture, as with a DVD (no 'R'), and it's more defined in terms of the system that uses it. An N64 cartridge may have save storage, but the portion containing the game won't ever be overwritten by the N64 itself, even if some other hardware could alter it. EEPROM stands apart to a degree since it may be modified by onboard hardware through its lifetime, by the system in which it resides, as a part of that system's continuing operation.
b0mmer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:04:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I built an 8-bit CPU with a friend in college. For the BIOS we developed on a protoboard covered in dip switches. Once we had our final product we swapped it out for a PCB of a smaller form factor with the traces etched in. We recycled the old card into a program card.
I guess we went backwards from PROM to ROM.
Professor_Hoover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much space did that take?
b0mmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The BIOS was 10"x20" of standard 0.1" protoboard with just shy of 9400 bits of storage. 1.15KB. Could have placed more DIP switches, but needed room for address and data lines.
The entire system was built on cards inserted in a backplane.
It was about 4 feet high, 1 foot wide, and 2 feet deep.
The rest of the programming was done with EEPROM chips after we spent $350 on dip switches for one KB.
Bios rev 2 on etched PCB was 5" x 10" to fit the rails.
Blue2501 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did you make it do after you got it working?
b0mmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calculator, pong, and word processor
playaspec ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:54:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PROM. Programmable Read Only Memory.
fanboat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, if setting a bit to be what you tell it to be isn't writing then I dunno what is. In theory you could even use the controller to program the ROM and use it as makeshift writable memory. It would just be... outside the design scope.
Schnort ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:47:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uh, PROMs are usually write one. Like literally irreversibly burning fuses. Reprogramming isn't an option.
fanboat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about the Electrically Erasable ones?
Schnort ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
those are EEPROMs, not PROMs
Usually they require an external voltage to program them, though, that isn't supplied on the target.
fanboat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any device that can update its own BIOS on an EEPROM is internally able to modify memory which has been designated Read-Only. This is usually through a reserved process or even dedicated (on-board) hardware, but it is fundamentally initiated and set by the OS. I'm just pointing out that 'Read-Only' is not a literally accurate description of memory which contains information that can technically be set by the very system which calls it ROM, even if the term is a meaningful one from an engineering standpoint. You're right that this wouldn't apply to a fixed PROM, but TriStrange only mentioned E/EPROMs.
ockpii ยท 638 points ยท Posted at 17:00:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EPROM, is that a prom for nerds?
spiral6 ยท 838 points ยท Posted at 17:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could say it's a very memorable moment.
Paranoid1123 ยท 315 points ยท Posted at 18:32:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only till the lights came on. ๐ก
ChemicalPleasure ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:12:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quality material right here!
BlueDogXL ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:20:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then it was gone in a flash.
Ball-Blam-Burglerber ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then it was unforgettable!
popsicle_of_meat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:55:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BABY WHEN THE LIGHTS, GO OUT...
MrGoatOnABoat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get out
nytrons ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:04:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Booo
Mile_Wide_Inch_Deep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:43:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn...I'm so happy.. and sad.. that I understood that
DivineLawnmower ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:53:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was explained above to be fair. No need to feel sad.
Judoka229 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just got done with a two month training course in IT for the Air Force. I also understood it. Neat to see it again, though, now that I've seen a lot of the real world uses for it in the military.
clockwork_coder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boo.
Physicsbitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt think about it too much though or you might forget!
quadsbaby ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:41:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stanfordโs EE department does call the yearly dance EEPROM
dangertrap ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:26:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also a pretty rippin bass music producer. If you're into that sort of thing
Ulti ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:53:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eprom is goddamn awesome. I guess bass music producer is a good way to put it, I've always struggled to pin him into a proper genre. He's not trap, despite using a lot of the same noises... but I don't know if I'd be comfortable lumping it in with IDM either, despite it being fairly experimental.
dei8cb ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:55:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Caught him b2b with GJones; That was a killer set!
Ulti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dude, that sounds leeeegit. Last time I was paying attention and he was in town, he was opening for DJ Shadow. Pissed I missed that one D:
dei8cb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went a little out of the way to see it but totally worth it. Probably one of the better shows I've been to. I'm sure he'll be around again!
Ulti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh for sure! Now NEW LP WHEN?!
Jpot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same dude, they melted me. Shit was nuts. This is my favorite pic from their set.
dei8cb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a dope pic! Here is my vid of G Jones' collab with Bassnectar. (Chromatek)
Excuse the, er.. noises. It was a Friday night in Morgantown, West Virginia. Can confirm, was drunk.
Jpot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This is new music I made with BASSNECTAR!"
"YAAAaaaAaaAAAAA"
We could definitely be friends lmao
dei8cb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That yelling definitely wasn't my worst.. shuffles away basscenter videos
Jpot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:37:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've taken to calling it Space Bass. Same for G. Jones, Freddy Todd, Sayer, and Bleep Bloop, to name a few. /r/spacebass
Ulti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Noted!
wendigobass ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:21:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here hoping to find a response like this, was not disappointed!
N2O1138 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can never get enough of this song!
OsimusFlux ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can imagine a gathering of users on Club Penguin (R.I.P.) dressed in their finest black & white tuxedos, awkwardly avoiding chat with the opposite sex.
Sarsoar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually my IEEE chapter renamed our end of year banquet to EE Prom. We are nerds.
gaspitsjesse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the eProm and you're not invited!
pvcpipes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Learning about memory and professor made that exact same joke
compwiz1202 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea you all wear VR at home and see each other at a virtual prom.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Electrical Engineering PROM?
CognitivelyDecent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best bass artist in the game today. Look up his music
MrWeirdoFace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've never attended eProm on your iPhone? What a loser!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its a prom in Second Life
sovamind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than the iProm which is hosted by Apple and everyone has to wear white.
takatori ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's an erasable PROM.
VanFailin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Or at least it was.
_jlouise_ ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:21:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny story about EPROMS. I had a friend who was tech at a factory a couple years back. One of the machines from the late 1970's in an active production line broke down and needed some repair. The company had been around since... the 80's, and have never replaced the machinery as it was cost prohibitive to do so. So the mechanics had a big light shining into the machine as they worked. No big deal right? However, after they were finished they turned the machine on and the OS was blank. My friend cracked open the machine and saw an erasable EPROM that the label had fallen off and the big light the mechanics were using erased the program one the chip! He told owners that unless they had a copy of the binary code that was on that chip, they had a useless piece of scrap metal. They didn't have the code. The company that made the machine was by was long gone. Oh well...
rtft ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:21:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you usually would use black spray paint for these kinds of machines. Stickers came off way too easy especially if the machines generated a lot of heat or humidity.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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incer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:59:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP but I work in automation. What would happen normally is that you would replace all the control electronics with modern parts and with a modern software. Not ideal when done in an emergency, but it's a pretty standard procedure, and unless the machine had some very special functions, the software nowadays can be written much more quickly.
Night_Thastus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:56:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What prevents EEPROM/EPROM from being written to until it's completely erased? What allows is to be written to once it's erased?
SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:55:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually if you've ever heard the term "burning" a disk, it's similar to that.
Each storage location of an EPROM/EEPROM fundamentally consists of a single field-effect transistor. Each transistor has a floating portion connected to its gate. Since the conduction in a transistor is based on the gate voltage, and the gate is floating, our goal is to charge that floating section in order to force each storage location to always on or always off.
Once we turn it on, it is stuck on -- the charge is put on the floating gate portion and can't go anywhere (except leakage over many years). What we can do to release that charge is shoot photons at it (put it under UV light) in the case of EPROM, or we induce an electric field which can make the electrons tunnel out of the floating node.
The reason we "can't write" to an EPROM or EEPROM once they are written is kind of like the "Pin Art" tool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_Art It's not that you "can't write", but you can only write if you can somehow overwrite what is already in the IC and it happens to coincide with what you were trying to write, if that makes sense. Like, if you push your hand through the pinart, then your face, and somehow you can see your face, then it's good. If you can't, then it's no good.
realjd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:52:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesnโt the term โburningโ come from the CD-R era? You were literally using lasers to burn data into the dye layer of a CD.
SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:53:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs applicable in both cases. I think it saw widespread use after CDs but it began with PROM.
RedDogInCan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:00:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can only write 1's to it. Exposing it to light (EPROM) or a special electrical charge (EEPROM) resets everything to 0's.
therealdilbert ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:49:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
usually the other way around, erase to 1, write to 0
playaspec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. By default a 'blank' EPROM is all 1's (0xFF). When you "burn" an EPROM, you're burning 'fuses' (as it was explained to me back in the day).
b0mmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was just PROM that was burned. Basically WORM (Write Once Read Many).
EPROM has the erasable part.
Night_Thastus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While you apparently had it reversed, this still makes it far clearer. Thank you. So you could technically still write to it, but you can't change what's already been written to without writing to it first.
Thanks!
ScatmanDosh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as I remember, most writing software for programming EPROM is proprietary (so there's no easy way to just write to it, so you don't need a write-flag) or you flick a switch on the chip itself. For EPROM, you usually use a secondary programming tool to reprogram it. For EEPROM, you can do this all using a program on your PC. I don't think you could flash more than 10 times or so for a lot of the really old chips.
Edit: remembered something
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:29:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid dad had an EPROM programmer for distributing updates to some industrial equipment. And a box with a UV light that would wipe the eproms.
It was such old tech that the programmer required memory addresses c000-cfff to work, so once we got past cga to more advanced graphics cards, we had to abandon that programmer because they've shared the same memory address space.
It was cool. You could literally go in and write whatever to the EPROM.
IamOzimandias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same tool is a chip holder. It has the program in on-board memory (I think) that it learned from a PC. After you erase the chip with UV light, put the sticker on and upload new program into the chip. The chip can then go into a two way radio, for example, and have frequencies programmed. You can also just copy a master chip exactly.
simjanes2k ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:28:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but the uv bulbs and leds are still handy for epoxy, hurray!
Bunktavious ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:00:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first job out of high school, we sold the electronics for highway scales. We'd write the program in C, pop an EPROM in to the burning machine, upload it, and plug the chip right in to the board. That's how you put the program in to the machine.
If we needed to do an update, the chips came out, the little sticker came off, and they'd get slid in to this little ultraviolet light thingy for an hour. Then you started the whole burning process again.
I miss those days. That was an era where we'd actually diagnose issues on a circuit board and replace the broken components.
CognitivelyDecent ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:22:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EPROM is also the name of an amazing music producer, if you like heavy electronic bass.
DenverCityAce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you in the traffic world, then EPROM everywhere!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:48:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Tired8281 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even the table games? I always thought they were robots, the blackjack dealers, anyways.
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And vintage stand up arcade game.
Parzius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not easier or faster when you're trying to jtag your xbox let me tell you.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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oatscoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're talking about EEPROM (Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory) vs EPROM, which had the windows.
markevens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, TIL!
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God I love learning what acronyms actually mean. I've seen EEPROM so many times and knew it was some kind of chip that ran code, but understanding the context and meaning is so nice. I know I could have googled it, but I think it never actually occurred to me that I cared enough to find out before.
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically it doesn't 'run' it, the microprocessor does. It's the non-volatile memory that's the first thing to run when the power comes on.
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see, thank you for the clarification.
mere_iguana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a really shitty job peeling the stickers off EPROMs and lining them up under UV light boxes to 'flash' them. Used acetone to remove the sticky bits, I think my lungs are still permanently fucked from breathing that shit.
GachiGachiFireBall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i literally learned about this today in digital logic
The_Kadeshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that is fascinating thanks!
darkbreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, Linus.
kindall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And both types of EPROM are different from flash memory.
ajshell1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...if it can be reprogrammed, it's not really read only, right?
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. The distinction is that the computer can't write to it or update it. That's why its read only. To write to it required removing it, erasing it, and reprogramming it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it can't be programmed it isn't too useful is it?
OHyeaaah97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Easier for you. Not me. I hate flashing the bios.
TheCapedMoosesader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Used to have a little easy bake oven sort of thing witj a uv lighy and a timer to throw them in to wipe them
thelittleking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well fuck me, that's cool.
Amon_Rai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with EPROM chips at my job almost on the daily. Incredibly unreliable when it comes to burning the old stuff out and reloading the program onto them.
AshingiiAshuaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Erasable programmable read only? I do not think that means what you think it means.
oatscoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's ROM when it's installed -- whatever system it's in isn't writing to it.
You needed a "high voltage" (12v, vs the 5v or 3.5v it uses in operation) programmer to program the things.
If you want to be anal, there's no such thing as ROM because it's written to at least once.
The_Hunster ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 16:24:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some old memory used to be erased if exposed to light I think.
TheMSensation ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:34:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same reason the raspberry pi's earlier models shut dowb if you took a picture with a Xenon flash. Not sure if they still do or if the shielding has improved, I know mine does.
It's called the photoelectric effect, here's an article if you are curious
HyperspaceCatnip ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:51:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a little window, to let light in. You exposed it to UV to set all the bits to 1 (sorry, previously misstated 0), then popped it into a programmer to reprogram it. If it was an EEPROM the programmer could generally erase it too (similar to modern Flash), since often even for EEPROM the circuit that required the ROM couldn't program it itself. There were also PROMs, which you could only program once, so you had to be pretty sure you wanted to do it.
Often you could also get microcontrollers with such a window, if you flashed them with a camera flash the light would crash the CPU.
playaspec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:06:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, erasing it set it to all 1's (0xFF). You "burned" the bits you wanted to be a '0'. The programming voltage was typically 12V, well beyond the limit of most TTL compatible parts.
HyperspaceCatnip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that's right sorry. Couldn't quite remember the right way round so just went with it.
Deleriant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got down to this comment assuming that erasable programmable meant that you could write and delete things at will. Is that the case? How do you program it again when there is physical damage to the chip from burning or from UV light exposure?
playaspec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't. You toss it and use a new one. You can typically get hundreds of erase/burn cycles out of each one, and few EPROMS see more than 10 cycles.
porkyminch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old school read only memory could be erased using UV light. You'd use a little EPROM eraser box to shine a bright light in there and it lets the stored charge dissipate. It's basically magic. They did it that way on purpose because it was cheaper long-term than using the really cheap one time programmable ROM if they planned on updating the firmware.
[deleted] ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 16:34:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:54:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TechiesOrFeed ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:59:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
????
Double ???????
Triple ?????
Give me ONE source to back that statement up, cuz according to Wikipedia
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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:00:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a dumbass.
[deleted] ยท 6215 points ยท Posted at 16:50:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
::slowly puts shirt back down::
I guess I was doing that wrong.
GodMonster ยท 1019 points ยท Posted at 18:27:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good way to turn the computer on.
The_Real_Jambalaya ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 18:30:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting it ready for a new "input, output" system ๐
phforNZ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:12:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
plugs keyboard into video card
GodMonster ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:12:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong hole!
GaryBettmanSucks ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:14:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hello - Smithers - you're - quite - good - at -turning - me - on!
vecima ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:07:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You probably should ignore that
agentverne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they do need a hard drive....
BlackJackBob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry all I have is this floppy disc
tribbeanie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too
BestCoffeeOnUranus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Push that floppy disk into the tight slot, push the right buttons, and eventually you'll get the hard disk working.
mexus37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, dad.
HaroldSax ยท 1002 points ยท Posted at 17:17:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm white enough that I would probably still be doing it right using your method.
PM_ME_YOUR_BOOB_Es ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:03:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...#whiteprivilege?
cwcollins06 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:21:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit, I am NEVER fast enough...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what your girlfriend says.
HugeLibertarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Burned.
...or should I say cucked?
wardrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
me too, thanks
ASentientBot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
!redditsilver
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This probably isn't what you meant, but I figure it's still relevant. http://assets.amuniversal.com/8e3737805e33012ee3bf00163e41dd5b
masterofthefork ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:38:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as "Flashing the bois".
PM_meyour_closeshave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure the chip appreciated the effort.
kevincox_ca ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:50:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be "flashing the bois"
Trumps_left_bawsack ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:05:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of this t-shirt
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Bios, not the Bois.
SciFISpaceKitten ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:23:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah keep flashing and post pics. I'll tell you if it works.
centersolace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username?
obliviousObservation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tragic-Story::slowly-puts-shirt-back-down
So much class
Madworldz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No no, it's OK! Please carry on as you where.
WhatisH2O4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
::Peels back nipple sticker::
Nah, you were on the right track.
LazerX7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://xkcd.com/649/
TOMdMAK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who's this BIOS you're trying to flash?
ItSoundedBelievable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flashing the bois
TheWiredWorld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is like old person chain mail humor.
callpupper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's flashing the bios not flashing the bois
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hi its me ur computer
yParticle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're supposed to turn your geek OFF first.
ldankishere ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:04:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the cringiest comments i've seen on Reddit yet.
PaulBardes ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 16:33:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like these: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/VariousEPROMS.png
VenetiaMacGyver ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:07:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, TIL! My dad was an IT guy in the 70s-90s and used to have tons of these around; I recall him having some special light he used on them but figured he was just inspecting them really close. I've used "flashing the BIOS" forever but never put two and two together.
PaulBardes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a few today. A strong UV light is used to erase it quickly, but regular light will gradually corrupt data. You may leave them under sunlight for a few hours if you don't have an artificial UV light.
arabianbandit ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 17:54:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
risky click
mattthepianoman ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 19:26:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not where the term "flashing" comes from. It comes from the type of memory used - Flash. Before flash took over EPROMs and EEPROMs were used, and the term used for writing data was "burning".
linotype ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:55:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This needs to he higher. You are 100% correct.
SirDrexl ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:21:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even the term BIOS is anachronistic with today's computers, as the UEFI has technically replaced it. But even manufacturers still refer to it as a BIOS.
overfloaterx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:02:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently had to say "UEFI" out loud for the first time... and realized I didn't know how to say it.
yoo-eff-ee?
yoo-ay-fee?
yoof-ee?
I gave up and went with "you know... the new BIOS thing".
TheGreatNico ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Customer facing tech support here: the third one, though most people still just say BIOS
biznatch11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The 3rd one is how I say it in my head probably because it's the shortest. I've never heard it said out loud or had to say it out loud.
SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:58:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, this is wrong.
While EPROM is cool, it had nothing to do with this.
As another has stated, it's due to the fact the BIOS is written on flash memory. Flash memory was named so by a Toshiba engineer due to the fact that the action reminded the engineer of the flash in a camera.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:17:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read this as flashing the bois
IamOzimandias ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freeballing
mareksoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me, too, then pondered: is that the act of exposing yourself to other males ... or exposing your male bits to anyone?
AkirIkasu ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 16:40:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not really why we call it flashing though. EPROMs need to be exposed to UV light for a while to properly erase them.
We call the act of replacing firmware flashing because you are writing the binary to the device's flash memory.
SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:56:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! It's not a flash at all!
In fact, the name flash doesn't even come from this at all.
According to Toshiba, the name "flash" was suggested by Masuoka's colleague, Shลji Ariizumi, because the erasure process of the memory contents reminded him of the flash of a camera. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory
OP is completely wrong!
GavinMcG ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:08:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My thought process:
What does being a geek have to do with biographies, and why are biographies flashed?
ieilael ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:39:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related: a "core dump" is so named because we used to use magnetic core memory, although it's been obsolete since the 70s.
spilk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is totally wrong, you are thinking of EPROMs. Flash was named for completely different reasons.
Techwood111 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:44:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend, I am dubious of this, I am sorry to say. I'm familiar with UV-EPROMs; believe it or not, they are still commonly used, albeit on older hardware. I have some UV erasers we use, but we never use the term "flash" to erase them. The term we used to use was "burn" to write to one, similar to WORM CDs/CD-RWs, and DVDs. Now, later on, we certainly did start saying "flash" for some things, but as I recall, that was more with EEPROMs.
EDIT: I really think it is from flash memory.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but I do doubt if that origin story is correct. Maybe we could find a good source?
pyro5050 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which was a major pain in the ass sometimes...
thephantom1492 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, the term is actually right again, new bios ain't in eeprom, but in flash memory... So not the same flashing, but still flashing...
As to what /u/CrumpetMuncher refer to is EProm, which is Ereasable Programmable Read Only Memory. They were a chip with a window on top where you can shine UV light and it erase the state of the memory, then you can cover it up and write back data on it. Prom was write once, and EEProm was electronically ereasable PROM... It can be ereased with an electric signal.
As to now, most now use flash memory, which is now cheaper and faster with little downside (most eeprom can be erased on a per byte basis, while flash is per page, and one page can be any number of bytes, like 32 bytes. This is not an issue for the bios application since it just need to erease a big block at once anyway, but could be an issue for a programmable thermostat for example, where you write one byte for the set temp, with flash you write the whole program...)
therealdilbert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then it would have been burning or programming, "flashing" came with flash that is electrically erased not UV erased
DennisNedrey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
software patch is related because they would tape over holes in punch cards.
PterionFracture ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:44:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure it's called "flashing" because the BIOS is stored on flash memory. I would be interested in any source you have for your explanation, though.
DennisNedrey ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called flash memory because originally it was erased with flashes of light. https://www.quora.com/Why-is-flash-memory-called-so
Edit: corrected link
Blrfl ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it isn't. You'll find the actual reason it's called flash further up in the article. (Edit: The original link went here.)
Memory that required light to erase was a specific variety of Erasable Programmable Read-Only Memory or EPROM, and it took a lot more than a flash to erase it. You'd put it into a gadget called an EPROM eraser that exposed the chip to ultraviolet light for 5-10 minutes. Source: Erased a lot of EPROMs while developing firmware.
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, he's correct. It's flashing because of the flash chips.
Blrfl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing in the corrected link supports your assertion.
PterionFracture ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:12:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I must be overlooking something in that link. Where does it say that flashes of light are used to erase memory?
DennisNedrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I copy/pasted the wrong link. facepalm edited my original comment.
PterionFracture ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the link! I deleted my other reply because I hadn't noticed that the relevant part of that article had to be expanded to be viewed.
Cheers!
Catshit-Dogfart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, actually didn't know this one, and I've been working on computer stuff for a long time too.
catdude142 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flashing a PROM is writing the device. BIOS was typically fusible link PROMs, not EEPROMs
p9k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fusible PROMs weren't common for BIOS anywhere because they're not that reliable over time. ROMs in consumer stuff were usually mask ROMs, OTP EPROMs, or windowed EPROMs.
PaulMcGannsShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did not know this. Go fig
captainbruisin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait...that requires possibly going outside? Ew.
neuken_inde_keuken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just using the term BIOS when everything now is technically a UEFI
Arlen_Bales ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh! All these years and I thought the flashing part was only the writing phase, not erasing the chips. I don't even thing we said "flash" back in the EPROM/PROM days. Just erase (EPROM) and program.
ImYaDawg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaah now i know where this comes from :p
gigashadowwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For that matter, Bios has been replaced by UEFI, North Bridge ane South Bridge have been replaced by hub architecture... the list goes on and on.
Cros3n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in the Navy and we have some test equipment that still uses this method.
funnyredditnam3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's awesome
daredaki-sama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cool!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it was soooo much better than soldiering a new BIOS on. Did that once, never !@#$% again.
RottMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you flash the bios foes it actually use light still ?
Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next you're going to tell me burning a CD originally meant literally putting it over a fire.
NotoriousOGP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My last job still uses a lot of eproms for their older machines. I had never even heard of the technology before starting there...it was like stepping into a time machine with some of our projects. Basically the majority of textile plants that make yarn still run on 20 year automated systems.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who doesn't say this for automatic windows? I do still say it if the vehicle has a manual roller... but for auto-windows, I always say something like "Put the window down". It would just sound weird to say "roll down the window" if it had a button control.
teasus_spiced ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I remember EPROMs but I'd never made the connection! It makes sense though..
TeaSwiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EA needs to be
flashedexposed to the light </3alanwashere2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of these outdated terms in IT are not that old. Like how people refer to their desktop background as a "screen saver."
doctor-5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh heh. Used to? My company still uses those little UV window chips as our main micro controllers. ๐
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UV light specifically. I regularly use my eraser and programmer today.
giantJim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an IT guy, I never knew that one. I know the usual patch/bug, but now I'm amazed.
SquirrellyNuckFutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same for flash storage Iโm guessing?
kingfrito_5005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna need a source for this. Not a source that that happened, but a source that that is the origin of the word, because it seems REALLY unlikely.
supafly208 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whooaaa. I had no idea. I always wondered what it was from, but never looked it up for some reason
zsaleeba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a UV EPROM eraser somewhere. It doesn't get much use these days.
mattthewise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I'd never heard of that origin. Neat!
BradC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of that.
twistedsymphony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny but I just flashed some eproms last week, and ordered some more for another project. This task is still very much alive and well among the arcade community as most 90s and older era games store their code on them.
MrPoletski ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:40:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the difference between an EPROM and an EEPROM.
Area51Resident ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EPROM = Erasable Programmable Read-Only memory
EEPROM = Electrically Erasable Programmable Read-Only memory
EPROMS could be written to using a special dedicated chip programmer, EEPROMS could be erased and re-written in the circuit, an example is the updatable BiOS chip on your motherboard.
uvEPROMS, the most common type of EPROM, could be erased with UV light and then rewritten, they have a dome shaped window on the top of the chip.
I'm going from 'memory' on this so there is room for error.
MrPoletski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my point was the 'electrically' difference.
Area51Resident ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes you're correct, I misread your post as "What's the difference...".
survivingLettuce ยท 15108 points ยท Posted at 14:55:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"patch" as in computer patch, was originally a small patch placed on a hole in a punched tape, to correct mistakes
source
๐๏ธ Allen_MacGyverson ยท 1743 points ยท Posted at 15:02:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No matter how often I'm reminded of how far computers have come, I'm always amazed.
DickyButtDix ยท 584 points ยท Posted at 17:30:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know how familiar you are with computer technology already, but when I started learning computer hardware and networking it was like showing up to Hogwarts for the first time. So many advanced and incredibly complicated processes running off of soldered silicon boards and everything just kind of works. Computer and communication technology is mind boggling.
SjettepetJR ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 19:53:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What it really all comes down to is proper documentation. It's so extremely important for every step in the proces to know exactly what it can do.
DickyButtDix ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 20:23:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true, itโs all just a bunch of If/Then processes. But then you get into some crazy stuff like Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiplexing and itโs hard to connect that to the series of 1s and 0s that compose it. I realize wireless networking is itโs own beast, but it just blows my mind that a series of humans made these things possible.
A complicated procedure of Storage/memory/CPUs/GPUs processing data and displaying it onto a screen and sending that data wirelessly through different frequencies that automatically detect the best route, to a server through a series of handoffs and handshakes along a grid of signal towers, to be processed in the server as one of a billion processes per second, then sent back to a device in my hand just so that I can get BMโd by another fucking jade Druid on my lunch break. Weโve come a long way since the 70s.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, I love explaining science concepts to friends and wireless algorithms are the one thing that I ever just hand wave away as being too complex to describe in conversation
nixt26 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We learned how wifi works in college. It was pretty cool tech.
SjettepetJR ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:38:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one thing that I have a very hard time wrapping my head around is computers at the most basic level. The step from 1's and 0's to machine language is what really amazes me. I have played around with games such as TIS100 and Shenzhen I/O and I really struggle with it. Timing is so hard to manage, and keeping a good structure in the system memory is equally difficult.
And all that for a small indie company to continue supplying us with 1000MB updates for the most infuriating mobile-game.
computeraddict ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:08:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The conversion of 1's and 0's to machine language is just the consequence of where the 1's and 0's go. They're meaningless until you feed them into a specific processor that's configured to do things based on which 1's and 0's you give it. That interpretation by the processor is what gives them their meaning, and that's down at the level of logic gates.
spymaster1020 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:03:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I took a digital electronics course in high school that taught me all about logic gates and really sparked my interest in electronics. That was almost 6 years ago now (damn I just realized how long ago that was, feels like yesterday) I'm now studying electrical engineering technology at university.
PyroAvok ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still makes no fucking sense to me.
EnderWiggin07 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:50:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you are interested this quality series lays out in a really linear and graspable way how circuits build up into a working computer
Another layer of abstraction!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:24:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take it you aren't in school for it?
SjettepetJR ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:28:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, not really. I have computer lessons at my school, covering programming, webdeveloping, networking, datastructures and a few more subjects. Everything stays at a very simple level, we've just started to apply some fairly basic algorithms and functions to tour programming. It's all quite easy.
It is not really that I don't understand what is happening, but the complexity is amazing to me. I was more succesful at Human Resource Machine, I completely finished that game, it did take some effort.
I am considering studying CS at university next year, but I am also interested in Electrical Engineering I am currently working on a game with automatically generated mazes as a sort-of final highschool project.
Sr_EE ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:58:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Majority of CS majors never really understand hardware, while it's not completely uncommon for EE majors to help out with coding.
Having said that, there are a ton more CS jobs out there (and a wider variety of those jobs), so if you do consider EE, make sure to learn some programming skills somewhere along the way (either serious home projects, or maybe open source projects, or take classes).
SjettepetJR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the advice. I have definitely gotten better at coding over the past few years. I found that much of it just comes with experience. I also like to do it. The reason I don't want to get into EE is that I am not big fan of uncontrollable factors influencing the thing you make. I know that CS has a lot of job offers, but finding an job with an EE degree isn't hard either.
I was also considering going into game development, as that is apparently a separate study at universities. However, I think CS is a better choice since there is a much broader line-up of jobs available.
spymaster1020 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In high school I wanted to go for EE and CS. I just changed my major this year to Electrical Engineering Technology since it doesent require as advanced math, calculus and trig are not my friends.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To see how 1's and 0's work, watch this video by Matthias Wandell.
SjettepetJR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh, I know how it works at the basic level. but this video is definitely a quite cool visualization, thanks!
flobbley ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:49:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A CPU is just a rock we tricked into thinking
kurashu89 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:22:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In fairness, you have to trap lightning in it first.
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just about had sushi come out my nose! Too funny.
mylilbabythrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What game are you referencing with BM and druid? Genuinely curious.
DickyButtDix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hearthstone. The Jade Druid deck is a current meta and very annoying to play against.
kurashu89 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:21:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at this guy with DoCuMeNtATiOn. Back in my day, we had to decompile binaries by hand and we were happy to have hands.
aqouta ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:18:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Abstraction is a truly impressive thing.
sarcasticbaldguy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:04:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like Hogwarts because it's literally magic
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why "automagically" is a valid programming term hehe
wrathofnero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who is interested in networking, I can attest to this. The basic concepts of switching and routing parcels of information from point A to point B and back in milliseconds is astounding.
TechLaden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computers use binary and can perform calculations only using NAND (not and). NAND memory, like SSDs, are also built upon this principle.
braaaiins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Close, but NAND is just one of the 7 common gates. The NAND memory you mentioned is named because the transistors are connected in a way that resembles a NAND gate.
DanYHKim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:24:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
. . . and when all seven common gates are opened, the Four Horsemen will ride over the land!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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braaaiins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NAND can become all of the gates, but this is more of a novelty as it adds many unneeded steps.
As an example, making a XOR gate out of NANDs takes up to 4 gates, increasing the propagation delay, and making it impractical.
The fact that it's possible is really cool though!
khandaseed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the human anatomy
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just lightning put into a flattened rock
Cobbleking32486 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computers are just rocks we struck with lightning and tricked into thinking.
starcrud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now there are working quantum computers. I just learned they have them working. When I was learning about computer hardware it was just a theory and theoretically it would work but no one at the time knew how to implement it.
Hoeftybag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I started a degree in computer science and consider myself to be really good with computers and understanding software. I still code from time to time in VBA and using SQL (don't know the language) Hardware is still magic to me, It baffles me that electricity stored in certain patterns translates to images on a screen and can affect the images elsewhere through this internet thing.
SilentRaindrops ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am fascinated that they were actually sending images across long distances, even if not very clear, as early as the late 1800's via electricity.
Testboy80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is being really good with computers and understanding software? Does that mean you can fix grandma's computer and know how to install software using the "advanced" function?
Hoeftybag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It means I took classes in computer science in college, worked in a computer lab in college andcode semi-regularly for my job and for fun. Hell video games are my primary hobby. It's hard to convey my level of comfort without sounding like /r/iamverysmart but among people I know my computer knowledge and insight is a step above.
Testboy80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:59 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, something about the way you worded the initial post is strange, why would you say good with software over good with programing? It doesn't make sense.
Hoeftybag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:37 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was trying to encompass all computer functions really, without being too vague.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:24:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We flew the first plane in 1903. We put a person on the moon only 66 years later. It took thousands of years of human development to get to that first flight in 1903. In 66 years we went from first flight to first man on the moon. It's crazy.
magnoliasmanor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:08:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And 48 years later, here we are with fancy computers in our hands, looking at internet frogs.
stfm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:18:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two world wars helped
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:30:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing sparks technological advances like killing one another.
Rob749s ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:52:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear a lot of people say this but I think the real reason is survival. If defeating your enemy is the only way to survive, you work damn hard at it. You use every creative process you have to make sure their guys die more than your guys. That's it. Because in the end, we want to live.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"They are going to kill us, so we have to develop better weapons to kill them first."
Still the same reason.
Rob749s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:23 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily better weapons, often better defences: Moats, Castles, Bunkers, Watch Towers, Radar, Sonar, Warning systems, Missile defence etc. It just so happens that the best defence is a good offence.
The difference lies in wanting to kill and wanting to live. Two very, very different things.
playaspec ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those advancements would have happened without war, and in about as much time if not sooner.
laaanis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly nothing drives innovation like war, it's amazing what you can invent when your life depends on it
concretepigeon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:18:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I see old computer tech that works on magnetic tape or punched paper or whatever, I struggle to believe it actually worked. Yet I have no problem appreciating that ing the tiny transistors inside the phone Iโm typing on works, despite it really understanding how.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:09:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget about "online."
It used to be a word on the power button on electronics: the switch was to activate "line" power (you know, from the powerline). When the electronics were powered up, they were "on line."
AnUnnamedSettler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
term remains accurate even if the context has changed
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The meaning has changed from powered up to connected to the internet. And while the internet does run across communication lines, I think this use makes the meaning a lot more abstract.
stfm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put it "on the line"
Soldierbane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No no, see in my app users instantaneously take a picture and put it on the line. It's totally different.
VindictiveJudge ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:29:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best part is that archaic punch tape and modern blu-rays work on the exact same principles for data storage; it's just a string of alternating 1s and 0s denoted by solid spots and holes in the medium. The only difference is that advancements in technology have allowed us to distinguish finer holes.
Camoral ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. My 1tb hard drive, which is barely 9 inches long, would have been the gargantuan just about 60 years ago. In 1956, a 5mb hard drive IBM developed weighed a literal ton. 20 tons/gb and suddenly my hard drive is 20,000 tons. That's the weight of the giant arch in St. Louis.
Masterjason13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's 5mb per ton then it's actually 200 tons/gb.
VindictiveJudge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which means a terabyte drive would weigh as much as ten Gateway Arches.
sturmhauke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, and I'm a professional developer. When I was a kid, punch cards were still used in some places. A PC/AT came with a 20 megabyte hard drive that was about the size of a large paperback book. By the time I was in high school, Pentiums were available, you could get gigabytes of storage for relatively cheap, and the Web was about to transform the world.
Now I have a device I carry around in my pocket that's more powerful than the first supercomputers by about 3 orders of magnitude. Meanwhile, modern supercomputers can fully simulate a rat brain, or a second or two of an entire supernova in progress.
I've followed this stuff my whole life and made it my career, and it still blows my fucking mind.
playaspec ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:41:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooooh! Look at Mr. Size Queen over here with his 20 megabyte half-height drive! Some of us could only afford a 10MB FULL-HEIGHT drive that ate two 5.25" bays!
Feh! We had the 6502, up hill, BOTH ways!
People are so jaded. They don't appreciate how far it's come in so little time.
sturmhauke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a Commodore 64, it was the shit. I learned Apple Basic too so I could mess around on the school computers, but I didn't like them as much.
One time I had a teacher who didn't know jack shit about computers, and had us write a program to print our names on the screen. Most of the kids dutifully did something like '10 PRINT "Hi I'm Matt"' or whatever. I was bored off my ass so I drew my name with vector graphics instead. The teacher didn't like that and gave me a C for not following directions. Bitch.
RainbowPhoenixGirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many, many people still alive today remember the process of patching cards. It's really not that far away. I'd love to see the look on Turing's face when you showed him a smartphone and told him "this has more power than your machines could even dream of having, and it's only been 70 years, and tbh it could have been 55 if the British hadn't decided to make computation a state secret "for national security reasons"".
eyehate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:20:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first computer was a Vic-20. I had to program my games because my mother could not afford them. My 'hard drive' was a cassette tape and my monitor was a black and white television.
toeonly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember if you ever think what you are doing on the computer is a hack it is a rock that we put lightning in and tricked into thinking.
Shantotto11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taken another when you realize โcomputersโ were originally people who computed information.
mr_hellmonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know how you feel. Watching the whole process of CPU production from sand to chip is amazing. I'm amazed we can manufacture something so small and powerful.
Indie_uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should see how far computers have come
JD-King ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In such a short time too!
bschmidt25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing when you really stop to think about it. I work in IT and can transfer files between our systems at nearly half a GB a second. My first computer had a 750MB hard drive, so I'm transferring the entire contents of that drive in roughly 1.5 seconds. I remember being blown away with desktop computers that had 512MB of memory. Now, most everyone carries around a cell phone in their pocket that has at least 128 times that amount of storage, and it can be stored on a chip that's only 15x11mm. Not even 20 years ago, all of this would be completely mind boggling.
ElmertheAwesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My SO read an article that states we know as much now about Computer Science now as we did about the Physical Sciences 1000 years ago. Not sure how much weight that has, but if it's anywhere near true it's still pretty amazing.
BedSideCabinet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's more computing power on your smartphone than there was on the entire planet in the 60s.
toekneeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And to think computers haven't really been around for more than 100 years! Cars have been around longer! We are like in the infant stages of computers.
ep1939 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Curiousity: if you tried to mine Bitcoin with a supercomputer from the 60s, you'd solve a block in 3 billions years.
DragoonDM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad was in the Navy during Vietnam, and worked with the ship's primative fire control computer. It was fascinating hearing first hand accounts of how they worked with and repaired those monstrosities, like having to basically climb inside the computer and test/replace individual transistors, whereas modern microprocessors have billions of transistors in a chip the size of a fingernail.
DontOpenTilXmas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's crazy that there are now cars smaller than the first computer.
There are also computers smaller than the first car! .. wait
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 18:34:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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thoughtfuldude13 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:05:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is modern tech more crappy compared to 20 years ago?
AnUnnamedSettler ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:58:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Production quality has fallen in terms of longevity due to current business trends of replacing hardware regularly.
My dad's old brick cell phone is two decades old and still rocking.
Mine broke in two years.
aqouta ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:21:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your dads phone doesn't have to perform modern day miracles to function or run billions of lines of code. It was little more than a radio. It's like saying writing utensils have gotten worse since the stone age because chisels are hardier than pencils.
AnUnnamedSettler ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:15:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.
The fact is, we can produce hardware that lasts a lot longer than it does. It's just cheaper for everyone involved to make, sell, and buy cheaper products.
My two year old vacuum cleaner wasn't somehow performing miracles that the twenty year old one that my parents had wasn't capable of when it broke.
PseudonymIncognito ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:20:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is that people don't want the compromises that buying longer lasting or more durable equipment would involve. If people truly wanted to buy a car that would last forever, it basically exists and is called the Toyota Land Cruiser. Pretty much every part in it is specced to a 300,000 mile service life. Downside is that it gets 18mpg on the highway and is the least luxurious vehicle in its price class (starts at about US$84,000).
So sure, a company could build a smartphone with a 10 year service life, but what's the point when it would result in building the bulkiest phone on the market and when the buyers would find it unbearably slow compared to newer models in 3 years.
Edit: And it is absolutely unquestionable that modern cars are better built by pretty much any conceivable metric than anything your grandparents would have had access to. A Ford in 1955 would start at about $1950 (~$18,000 in today's dollars). The 2017 equivalent gets similar horsepower from a much smaller engine and will go 100,000 miles on little more than oil changes in addition to being much safer and better handling. In 1955, getting a car to 100,000 miles in any sort of drivable condition would have been a major achievment requiring extensive mechanical intervention.
AnUnnamedSettler ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:21:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't bother reading past 'the problem is'.
There is no problem.
It's simply an observation that production quality is not the same as it used to be.
PseudonymIncognito ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Longevity is not the only measure of production quality. Lots of that old consumer stuff was overbuilt and inefficient because we didn't have the technology to make it any other way.
AnUnnamedSettler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not a philosophical debate on the meaning of quality.
You asked a question. You got an answer.
fuckthefruit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:53:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are absolutely retarted.
AnUnnamedSettler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huuuuurrr dur dee durrrrrr.
playaspec ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:50:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit. The average 386/486 from 20 years ago didn't last nearly as long as a modern PC.
More bullshit. Analog cell phone networks haven't been a thing longer that that. Maybe it turns on and runs (doubtful since the battery surely has rotted away inside) but there's nothing for it to connect to, and is therefore NOT functional.
That's because you didn't take care of it. The phone I'm typing on came out four years ago, and still gets carrier updates.
firelock_ny ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:06:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heck, a good amount of industry software is exactly the same as it was 20 years ago...you can make a good living if you learn early computer languages like COBOL, because there are Fortune-500 companies still running stuff written in it.
-Reddit_Account- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:27:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck cobol :'(
Sunny_Tater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You no take candle!
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're either delusional, or don't really understand how tech works.
billbapapa ยท 5911 points ยท Posted at 15:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bugs are the same - used to be literal bugs in the machine...
fantom-flower ยท 1607 points ยท Posted at 16:07:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was working with a client's laptop, beetles crawled out of it, had to deal with my coworkers making debugging jokes the rest of the day.
PPRabbitry ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 18:22:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Beetles or roaches?
Roaches love electronics.
fantom-flower ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 18:47:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure they were some kind of beetle, as they were too small and dark to be german roaches but I didn't try to get a close look. I was more focused on getting the laptop out of my office, holding it at arms length as I dashed outside.
Looking up different types of beetles, I'd say they looked a bit like black carpet beetles, but after the first few scuttled away I didn't see any others.
DoverBoys ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 19:16:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they looked like tiny black ladybugs, probably carpet beetles. Harmless things that eat fibers, like literal carpet and old clothes, and dead hair. I had an infestation earlier this summer. Fix it by bombing my room with D. Earth then going on a work trip. Nothing since.
Kim_Jong_OON ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:10:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You bombed room with D Earth?
ArchViles ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:29:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright Kim Jong don't get any ideas
Kim_Jong_OON ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:48:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to bomb, with D Earth now that I know I can.
DoverBoys ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:52:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diatomaceous Earth
fourchickensandacoke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:59:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know right? I would have just nuked it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
fantom-flower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do think that they were carpet beetles, glad the office didn't get infested!
anonajn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harmless... unless you have a lot of animal fiber in your wardrobe, or a lot of wool yarn. They can also cause a rash called carpet beetle dermatitis.
DaSaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be willing to bet the business trip had more to do with their disappearence than the bombing. Carpet beetles stick around exactly as long as it takes for them to exhaust their food supply, which is often a dead mouse or something. Most carpets are made from artificial fibers, thus carpets are rarely the culprit. A consistent population is usually the result of being sloppy at cleaning up the dog hair or something (if there's somewhere it can drift/be shoved into where it can accumulate).
Worst infestations is if you have something like stink bugs, your idiot pest control technician decides to bomb the walls during winter, resulting in a ton of dead bugs in the wall... a veritable feast for dermestid beetles. Proper treatment for stink bugs (and other overwintering pests) is to just put up with them until summer, do some major crack and crevice sealing work during the summer, thus preventing them from using that area the following winter. No pesticide application necessary, or even desirable... not that that will stop the average sales tech who's got a quota to fill.
qu1ckbeam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:31:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, sounds like bedbugs to me.
fantom-flower ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:11:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was my fear at first! I had an infestation of those in a crummy old apartment I lived in 5+ years ago and it was an ordeal to get rid of them.
To this day I am still paranoid every time I see a bug (or piece of lint) that is remotely bed bug shaped.
Still not sure what they were, but as long as nothing comes home with me, I'm happy.
NewtAgain ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:04:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had cockroaches in my one apartment and they crawled into my electric tea kettle (where the switch is to turn it on). My next apartment the first time I turned on the kettle they came running out to avoid the heat. I immediately murdered them and the tea kettle. I ended up throwing out half of my kitchen appliances because I was paranoid the cockroaches would infest this apartment building and it would be my fault. I am forever paranoid about moving into another apartment with cockroaches.
mr_ewe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:21:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The story of how OP met Paul McCartney.
thebeef24 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:41:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a /r/buildapc post recently by a guy who had a dead ant in his monitor screen. Fixing it was quite an ordeal.
sweetcuppingcakes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:17:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They couldn't just Let It Be?
telegetoutmyway ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:31:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well Yesterday I said I'd deal with it tomorrow, and now that's today.
sweetcuppingcakes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:51:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tomorrow Never Knows
tomatoaway ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:09:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
spoopysjw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
bigcountry5064 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:09:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We received a new cable TV box from Charter, hooked it up, and started watching TV. A few minutes later I saw a cockroach, and without thinking much of it, killed it. A few minutes after that I see another cockroach and kill it. Now it has become a little odd, because we had lived in this house for several years and I don't remember many cockroaches, much less two at the same time. Then another. and another. and another. They were all coming from the same source; under the entertainment stand. I am snooping around trying to figure out what is happening until I get to the cable box. I pull the box out and see so many cockroaches moving around inside through the little air vent holes in the frame of the cable box. I unhook and toss the box in the front yard and kill any remaining cockroaches. I wrap the box in saran wrap (It came wrapped in saran wrap from charter) and throw it in the shipping box.
I call Charter and they were so understanding. They offered to send me a new Cable box free of charge.
I no longer have charter.
TL;DR: Cable Company sends me a roach infested cable box and they all flee once the box heated up from use.
fantom-flower ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:20:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good lord that sounds like something directly out of a nightmare! Roaches are just about my least favorite insect to deal with. I hope your electronics remain bug free (literally and figuratively) in the future!
Gunkspargle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:13:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like their warehouse must have a roach problem :/
pumpkinrum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh euw euw euw.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:16:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Working with a clientโs laptop and tiny white translucent bugs started crawling out of the keyboard.
I put it into a garbage bag and advised him to kill it with fire. Then, I drove home very quickly and took a very long shower.
fantom-flower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's terrifying! I've also dealt with a few spiders in machines. shudder
pumpkinrum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you find out what kind of bugs they were?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I generally try not to think about it.
Gunkspargle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I can think of are pinworms/threadworms, but those come crawling out of your butt at night, not laptop keyboards. Unless he was rubbing his asshole all over his keyboard...
Edit: I realize now you most likely meant bugs with actual legs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, they looked like tiny translucent fleas.
LagOutLoud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Day? Dude that would last a month at my office. You got off lucky.
fantom-flower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh they did spend a while poking fun at my reaction (bolting from the room, laptop held as far away from me as possible). But any time debugging was brought up they'd start snickering.
MossyMemory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had Argentine ants infest my laptop before. That was fun.
geekworking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked as a bench tech refurbishing cable boxes for the cable company. "Roach Motel" boxes were the best worse.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve heard this so often, roaches and ants swarming out of PCs. Why is this a thing?
fantom-flower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I looked it up and it seems to be because electrical appliances are warm, dark shelters that bugs tend to like, and some older insulated wires may be composed partially of starch they like to snack on.
Source: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-ants-like-to-live-in-electrical-appliances
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it must be a southern issue as well. In Canada we donโt get some of those bugs as they do in warmer climates. The only time I saw a cockroach was when I was in the Dominican.
fantom-flower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lucky! I'm in the southeast US and they're inescapable.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, people that live like Oscar the grouch on meth, with garbage all over their home will probably attract roaches, but an average house wonโt see them here.
Most common bugs around here are spiders, ants in the summer, June bugs, flies, mosquitoes. Etc.
sleeplessone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had to clean an ant colony out of a laptop. They had taken residence in the space around the hard drive.
opiate46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was updating memory on a client's laptop and it turns out it was full of ants. And cookies. Fucking disgusting.
fantom-flower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh I was working on my sister's laptop and it was full of crumbs. No bugs fortunately, but still gross!
Erit_Of_Eastcris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of when my old DM had a spider living on his motherboard.
[deleted] ยท 2491 points ยท Posted at 15:16:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was about to call bullshit before i googled it. Damn.
Edit: pitchforks at the ready lads. Turns out itโs bullshit.
squigs ยท 1546 points ยท Posted at 16:54:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is some contention over whether this was the origin of the term, or whether the programmers were using the term informally already, and noted it because it amused them.
melissapete24 ยท 262 points ยท Posted at 19:24:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edison use the term "bug", actually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Etymology
CentralHarlem ยท 668 points ยท Posted at 19:32:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And when Grace Hopper famously caught a moth in one of her machines (the incident sometimes cited as the first use of the term 'computer bug'), she annotated the moth in her notebook as "the first actual bug caught in the machine," indicating that the term had been in use previously.
[deleted] ยท 291 points ยท Posted at 19:52:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grace Hopper is the perfect name for that though
melissapete24 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 20:23:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, you're right! Grace Hopper - grasshopper. Never realized that before! O.O
kindall ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:01:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you can snatch the pebble from my hand, Grace Hopper, you will have completed your training.
Tom_Zarek ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:33:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*Throws pocketful of picoseconds in his face.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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kindall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:18:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To explain the joke: Hopper used to hand out approx. foot-long sections of wire to students and refer to them as nanoseconds. So, picoseconds would be about 1/1000 of a foot, or basically metal shavings or dust. If Hopper throws picoseconds, she's throwing sand in the Master's face.
Tom_Zarek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bingo!
Tom_Zarek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember seeing her talk about it on Letterman
Skorpazoid ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:25:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
__RelevantUsername__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is one badass chick if you look at her wiki
"One of the first programmers of the Harvard Mark I computer, she was a pioneer of computer programming who invented one of the first compiler related tools. She popularized the idea of machine-independent programming languages, which led to the development of COBOL, an early high-level programming language still in use today. Hopper had attempted to enlist in the Navy during World War II, but she was rejected by the military because she was 34 years of age and too old to enlist. She instead joined the Navy Reserves. Hopper began her computing career when she worked on the Harvard Mark I team that was led by Howard H. Aiken. In 1949, she joined the EckertโMauchly Computer Corporation and was part of the development team that designed the UNIVAC I computer in 1944. It was at EckertโMauchly that she began developing the compiler. She believed that computer code could be written in English by using a programming language that was based on English words. The compiler would convert that code into machine code that would be understood by computers. By 1952, Hopper finished her compiler, which was written for the A-0 System programming language."
and tons of other legendary stuff when I first discovered her I showed her to my gf and she was like that is like my dream of who to be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper
fellintoadogehole ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:19:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grace Hopper is awesome. I remember doing a research report on her in the third grade. She did a lot of cool things with programming, and is part of why I wanted to be a programmer.
Alx1775 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually got to meet her and hear her speak live, twice. I hope I still have one of her nanoseconds somewhere.
fellintoadogehole ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:42:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats awesome you got the chance to meet and see her. My mom was a programmer at Hughes in the 70s after majoring in math in college, and she was both appreciative of the women before her and helped pave the way herself for women to get into real engineering roles at companies. My mom actually stopped working there to be a stay-at-home mom for a while, and then eventually went back to school for her masters and taught math for the rest of her life.
I think my mom was the one who recommended Grace Hopper as the subject when I told her about the paper I had to do. I'm a guy but I still consider my mom and grace hopper had my greatest influences in why I'm a programmer now. I'm 30 now but I just always knew I wanted to be a programmer, from like when I was 10.
ronatola ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:18:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was a MILLION dollar question in Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
Fmeson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could just mean that people were afraid of bugs getting trapped.
Kim_Jong_OON ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:08:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"actual bug" as if she'd heard of bugs in comps already.
Fmeson ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:08:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point is those bugs could have been in references to computer bugs as we call then today OR in reference to people hypothesizing or joking that bug bugs might get into computers.
E.g. "This is the first time an actual bull has run through a china shop."
Either interpretation is potentially correct without more context.
NoddysShardblade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but engineers used it before the computer era because of actual bugs getting into the stuff they built, so it still comes down to actual bugs.
CortaNalgas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was one of the million dollar questions on Who Wants to Be Millionaire?
dumbshit1111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh I thought she was the one who coined it
Subject1928 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why couldn't it have been a grass hopper in her machine?
capilot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for posting that. Too many people misunderstand the story and think she coined the term.
damianstuart ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None of which actually changes that the bug in 'programming' came from actual insects getting caught in the stacking and unstacking of punch cards, which could cover a hole and change the code.
Fishbus ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:10:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now we're getting into some real entomology etymology.
melissapete24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like you. Have my upvote. :)
mattfloyd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://xkcd.com/1012/
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:51 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahahahaha!!! I laughed way too hard at this! Thanks! :) You take my upvote, too!
jrhoffa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:33:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shouldn't that be in the section about entomology, not etymology?
melissapete24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You people all make me smile. Take my upvotes, the lot of you. :D
Twitchy_throttle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typo in your link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Entymology
melissapete24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahaha. I appreciate your humor as well, good sir/madam. Have this upvote as a token of said appreciation.
gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sdneidich ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the real origin might have been more akin to "stomach bug."
Fumblerful- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:24:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my history buff friends says the bug term originated in world war two. When radios were broken in a certain way, they started developing a cricket sound. He says that is where bug came from.
GALL0WSHUM0R ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:48:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term dates back at least to 1870, so it can't have originated in WW2. Still a cool story though.
Fumblerful- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The radio operators in the Franco Prussian war
GALL0WSHUM0R ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The radio operators in the Hundred Years' War
Fumblerful- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brave Knights Templar radio operators coordianted ballista and acarpult strikes.
_liminal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:40:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a lot of programming terms and commands are used because it's funny. for example, in linux/unix there's a command called 'finger'
Skipper_Blue ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:38:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first person to use the term was admiral hopper, a woman in the US navy who was a mega OG programmer
kindall ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:03:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the positive side, she was an advocate for high-level programming languages and consulted on the design of a popular language that is still in use today.
On the negative side, it is COBOL.
walterpeck1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:05:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the positive side if you are really good with COBOL these days you can make a pile of money for companies that can't or won't move away from it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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walterpeck1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really hard, but really lucrative, from what I've read.
mugdays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was her first name "Grass" :P
SpaceChimera ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:16:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grace, actually. Which I think is even better
Alexschmidt711 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, seems like "bug" just meant something annoying.
depricatedzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a programmer, I often adopt language to describe my code because it amuses me, not because it's literal
Virge23 ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 16:32:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if I'm capable of believing you.
TacticalTruth ยท 292 points ยท Posted at 16:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first bug in computer code, was literally a moth.
MrGMinor ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 17:15:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first few hundred bugs in my friends PS3 were roaches.
TacticalTruth ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:39:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nasty
MrGMinor ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:41:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I found out when I borrowed it and brouggt it home D:
Barcaraptors ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:37:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nastier
MrGMinor ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:53:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thx
MorPhiend316 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nastiest
MrGMinor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay now you're just being mean.
_Lady_Deadpool_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:17:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He found out when he inserted a CD and heard crunching sounds
MrGMinor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nooot too far off. Also when it heated up they came out the back.
megalurkeruygcxrtgbn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:08:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just wanna know how that's so common. Like, what are you doing to your console to have there be an active infestation of bugs?
MrGMinor ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:15:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I found out later when I went inside his house and saw who really ran the place. Imagine you turn on the lights in the kitchen and the carpet scatters and you realize it's not a carpet.
scrivs30 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:59:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just reading this got me anxious
megalurkeruygcxrtgbn ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:16:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ฆ
Thedarkandmysterious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I threw up in my mouth
dontdopugs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:32:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I regret reading your comment, take this upvote.
fourpuns ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:51:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember getting called out to a clients place once to look at a monitor that looked like it had hudnreds of little spiders behind the screen.
It had hundreds of little spiders under the panel. Said it looked like that when they got it which made sense because it was literally the same day they got it.
I assume in the factory a little spider egg got into the thing.
ThetaReactor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:03:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Electronics are warm and dark inside. Perfect place for bugs.
rebuked_nard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You donโt have to do much. Let your place get infested by cockroaches is step 1. And thatโs about it, roaches take stead in the console since itโs warm, and if youโre like me, it runs for hours and hours. Any living creature small enough would find the inside of an Xbox or PS4 very cozy
This is a reason why you should keep your console on an elevated surface, and not the floor
gr8ful123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm now scared to open up an Original Xbox I received while renovating a 100-year old house... the house was filled with drug-abusers... hmm, maybe i'll pay someone else to softmod it...
TacticalTruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Insects love electronics
atomic_cake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why my mother never let me buy electronics second hand.
polarbearrape ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:10:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Protip: don't leave the ashtray near the inlet fan.
fourpuns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy smokes
LiterallyDeadL0L ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gags
SVKCAN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't there a TIFU or grentext about something like this?
gr8ful123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes, about a week or two ago about a PS2
derleth ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:42:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2515435/app-development/moth-in-the-machine--debugging-the-origins-of--bug-.html
IamOzimandias ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:35:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't in the code, it was a hardware problem. It shorted out a board .
TacticalTruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Semantics
IamOzimandias ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a pretty big difference between hardware and software.
TacticalTruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure?
Sully1102 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:12:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the first debugger was a woman, Grace Hopper.
Kirk_Kerman ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:32:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first computer was a woman.
Computer is the job title for someone who crunches numbers repetitively or operates a manual computer. The first electrical computers that could do work without a human operator were known as Automatic Computers.
Sully1102 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:33:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First dishwasher and first computer? They can do everything!
GreyFoxMe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't the first programmer a woman too?
VibeMaster ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:49:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bug story is cute, but it annoys me that this is what Grace Hopper is known for, she invented the compiler for Christ's sake. Without her, modern computing would look completely different, it's possible that we'd still be writing in machine code.
hbgoddard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she didn't invent it someone else inevitably would have.
VibeMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she didn't come up with it, I'm sure someone would have done something similar, but would it be the same? Regardless, it's a huge accomplishment, and one of the most important in computer science history.
derleth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2515435/app-development/moth-in-the-machine--debugging-the-origins-of--bug-.html
rieoskddgka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gracehopper
TheOneTrueTrench ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're thinking of Grace Hopper, who noted it as the "first actual bug". She wouldn't have used the word "actual" if the term wasn't already in use. So no.
semarj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So i've heard this urban legend 100 times and even as a programmer have never really questioned it...until now.
I've decided this is highly highly unlikely to be true. The first bug in computer code coincided with the first line of computer code (or punch holes or whatever) no way in hell an actual physical bug interfered with the operation of software before the stupid programmer's brain did.
(whether or not it was called a bug I dont know)
TacticalTruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the picture I've always seen.
semarj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the usage of the word "actual" proves what I'm saying.
TacticalTruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah
LSC99bolt ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 16:35:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I haven't looked it up either, but I would assume since the computers were so large, insects would easily find their way inside the electronics.
EgotisticalAsshole ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:39:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found a dead spider in my dads computer
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:25:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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theycallhimthestug ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:31:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a video of a baby spider walking around the inside of my monitor. Tripped me out at first when I couldn't wipe it away.
EgotisticalAsshole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you had been the guy that posted that somewhere else like as it was happening i remember this happening.
Smilotron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Deadmau5 got his name because he found a dead mouse in his computer and he became known as the dead mouse guy in an internet chatroom IIRC.
MisterSympa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Least it was dead.
Gioware ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was google crawler
Sweetwill62 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:47:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't remember which one it was, either the 360 or the PS3, but they had a problem with certain spiders getting into the machines and being shipped off. I believe the main culprits were machines produced in Venezuela and I want to say they were funnel web spiders.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:07:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
360 I'm pretty sure.
dot1q ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:18:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It refers to the physical switches that would be thrown for logic. A error occured when a bug was crushed between the switch connect, preventing a connection and giving an unexpected result
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:48:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When running, they were nice, warm, dry & dark environments. Perfect for cockroaches.
I_AM_NOT_A_WOMBAT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found live nymph cockroaches in a subnotebook I bought off eBay. Or RoachBay as I call it now. They were in the battery compartment and in the internals of the machine via the vents. There is now a protocol for incoming eBay shipments here that involves literal debugging.
spaghettibeans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Punch cards, as in real paper cards, the bugs would get onto the cards and mess them up.
Revlis-TK421 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first computers ran off of physical punch cards. If an insect got smushed into a card deck (100s, 1000s of individual cards) and blocked the punch code, the program failed to compile.
Literal bugs in the code.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_programming_in_the_punched_card_era
arkhound ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, they'd crawl in and short the electronics.
Gnivil ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:32:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just googled it, apparently the first time that it could be considered modern usage was in the 1800s to refer to faults in the factory machines, and it comes from the middle English term bugge which is basically a demon. So it was actually saying that the machine was possessed (though most likely wasn't to be taken literally even then).
clumsy_plumsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying it does not compute?
JammeyBee- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:23:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a moth in a vacuum tube. Silly moth.
SonicMaster12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:08:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
source:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug Under "Etymology".
They also have a picture of the log entry with the moth taped to it.
wenasi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actual section shows how that is not the origin of the word though.
derleth ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:41:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is bullshit. Here's the real story:
Vexal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:51:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then that million dollar question for one episode of who wants to be a millionaire asking about the origin of this term was wrong.
frenchchevalierblanc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The joke was that it was an "actual" bug being found
CLearyMcCarthy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep googling man. It's a reference to how small the problems' cause tended to be.
lolzfeminism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs actually definitely false, use of bug to describe issues goes back way farther than computers.
raw031979b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, a moth that shorted out a couple of vacuum tubes circa 1950 with old eniac type machines that required gymnasiums to house
Archteryx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was a million dollar question on "Who wants to be a millionaire" .. but I'm not googling it.
staviq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's neither bullshit nor true, it's just that the first ever written mention of a "bug" in a software was actually a literal bug splashed on a data tape. It's unclear if the term was used before, or if someone dug up this note years later and decided it was funny and continued to use this term and it just caught on.
ktappe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first $1 million given away on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" was on this topic. It asked what type of bug the first computer bug was.
Spoiler: It was a moth.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not even going to google this one. Off you fuck.
aggressive-cat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:19:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
debugging was literally walking around picking dead moths out of the vaccum tubes.
WraithCadmus ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 15:35:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's disputed I thought?
Catshit-Dogfart ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:41:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somewhat - it's certainly true that "bugs in the machine" was used to literally mean insects that had jammed up some precise mechanism causing it to operate incorrectly.
The dispute is the origin of the term, it's unclear if that's the origin of the term of just an inside joke relating to some other incident.
derleth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2515435/app-development/moth-in-the-machine--debugging-the-origins-of--bug-.html
derleth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:42:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.computerworld.com/article/2515435/app-development/moth-in-the-machine--debugging-the-origins-of--bug-.html
SpaceDog777 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:10:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's sort of a fable.
A computer scientist named Grace Hopper once famously discovered that a computer fault was due to a moth in the machine. Here is a picture of an except from her report:
https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2013/12/moth-660x548.jpg
As you can see, she wrote
Twas a pun, and for it to be a pun, the term "bug" must have already been floating around at the time, basically meaning "something going wrong." Think of the phrase "bugging out" - same etymology.
And generally, real bugs were not the cause of software bugs. Hence "first actual case."
In truth nobody knows where the term "bug" came from, but Grace Hopper cemented it in history.
derleth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:41:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is bullshit. Here's the real story:
isotopes_ftw ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:52:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually something that helped make the term popular, but not the origin.
FishyGuyEUW ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:33:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that the term is older, like they used to call little mechanical problems bugs since the 19th century
agm66 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:01:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. "Bug" was used in the sense we mean today by Thomas Edison, and probably before him. Had nothing to do with bugs in the insect sense (or at least there's no evidence of it). When Grace Hopper called a moth found in a relay a "bug" in the system, she was making a joke - after a lifetime of dealing with bugs in electronic equipment and early computers, she (well, a co-worker, really) had finally found a real one.
frenchchevalierblanc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nope, it's a term that existed before computers. Thomas Eddison used it.
Grace Hopper made a joke about it with a case of "actual" bug being found.
TakeOffYourMask ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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melissapete24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:23:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Etymology
I also found other articles stating pretty much the same thing, but this sums it up most concisely.
suicidebylifestyle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a moth wasnโt it?
WorgRider ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did they also get literal viruses as well?
ythl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then what did they call logical bugs not caused by literal bugs?
Wh0rse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The film Brazil depicted this at the beginning which was a plot device .
eddietwang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a feature.
CLearyMcCarthy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ummm.....no?
ZakDerMutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was looking for this comment! Didn't take long haha.
AndrewZabar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it was one major incident that spawned the term. Bug in question was a moth.
Rats_In_Boxes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a vital plot point in the film "Brazil."
314159265358979326 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what to make of this. Edison described problems in development of a product as "bugs" 50 years before computers, but then there's the actual computer bug tale.
busterbluthOT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait really? TIL
wardrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't this just a one-off? Like the very first bug was caused by a moth or something like that? So basically every glitch thereafter was just referred to as a "bug"?
WedgeTurn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in the days when a mouse was an actual mouse
Rockonfoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I thought MIB was being original..
jazzyt98 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grace Hopper was the first to de-bug a computer.
PirateCodingMonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thank you, Grace Hopper for pulling the moth out the circuitry and taping it in the log book.
piddlybeans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FYI, the first computer bug was a moth. The more you know๐ซ
Master_Tallness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A trip to /r/techsupportgore may change your mind.
ExtraSmooth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once took a tube amp in to get repaired, and they told me there was a cricket in there.
ThatIckyGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine still does. It runs on Anthill Inside.
kevie3drinks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why isn't this thing working?
Well, there were lots of bugs, but we got our finest frogs to scour the mainframe and clean things up, no more bugs.... However, now we have a frog problem.
bhardin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because older programmers never had problems in their code. It was perfect when it โshippedโ.
billbapapa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey why you picking on us old guys?
confettifetish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iirc, the term was coined when a librarians computer wasn't working. She opened it up and a moth flew out.
JohnnyThunders ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was one of the original $1 million dollar questions on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
karatetoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It originated with the famous programmer Grace Hopper when she found a moth in the computer and actually saved it
addorchak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First one was a moth, I learned that from Who Wants to be a Millionaire, was the million dollar question if I remember correctly
SirRogers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, do I have a relevant story. In my high school computer engineering class, one kid brought in his computer to work on it with the tools we had. He started out by using compressed air to blow it out.
So many cockroaches came out of that power supply. Like, tons of fucking roaches. It was like a horror movie, but worse because I was there.
The school ended up having to call an exterminator, and needless to say that kid wasn't allowed to bring in anything but his school supplies. He was disgusting anyway, so I shouldn't have been that surprised.
Spudd86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:37:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term came first, that's why the bug is labeled some thing like 'First case of an actual bug in the machine' that label wouldnlt make sense uf the term 'bug' for an error didn't already exist.
Tattered_Colours ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all bugs used to be literal bugs โ itโs not like programmers didnโt make mistakes back then. It just happened one time that a literal bug was causing a computer to malfunction, and the term caught on.
dance_rattle_shake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, no, since the dawn of time there has been shitty, bud-riddled code, they just didn't used to refer to errors as bugs. You can't say it "used to be literal bugs" that's misleading on many levels. You're simply referring to a story where Grace Hopper found an actual bug in her computer and that's supposedly how the term was coined. Even that's debatable.
spingus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper
While she was working on a Mark II Computer at a US Navy research lab in Dahlgren, Virginia in 1947, her associates discovered a moth that was stuck in a relay; the moth impeded the operation of the relay. While neither Hopper nor her crew mentioned the phrase "debugging" in their logs, the case was held as an instance of literal "debugging." For many years, the term bug had been in use in engineering.[35][36] The remains of the moth can be found in the group's log book at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History in Washington, D.C.[37]
kraterface71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iPhone bugs are totally real: https://youtu.be/wNrmujt1yMc?t=1m41s
FlotsamOfThe4Winds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word was already in common use; "debugging" appears in print before the alleged incident.
shaggorama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not, actually. Consider Grace Hopper's famous "first actual case of bug being found (moth in relay)" from 1947. The fact that she titled the log entry the way she did and physically taped the moth into her journal for comedic effect is strongly suggestive that researchers were already using the term "bug" metaphorically.
RainbowPhoenixGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Specifically, it originated from a moth that crawled into an engine compartment.
dragondm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term actually predates computers. Telegraph operators used to attribute connection issues to insects on the wires, thus "bugs" became a term for a electrical glitch you cannot find easily. It became indelibly attached to computers when someone actually found a moth in a relay of an early computer. (the logbook note stated "First case of a bug actually being found")
A_Used_American ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC the first one was a moth.
Walletau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty please correct this post.
wakerxane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think back in those time a man were the Antivirus.
SuperiorHedgehog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Smoke tests' were originally to make sure your computer/device didn't literally start smoking.
Today I hear the term used to mean 'it turns on and looks basically functional.'
billbapapa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny that I knew this one - we did "load tests" of some micro controller bullshit I was programming in university and the Lab Instructor told us that, and of course, mine started smoking (in fairness, it was cause we put it in some way not safe housing but it was hot as a mother fucker)
Indie_uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly when you refer to bad code as a โliteral dumpster fireโ this goes back to the 30s when code was often used to fuel fires in winter due to the materials programs were stored on
billbapapa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like you
Sinjun13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, "smoke test", a final test to make sure everything works under a full load, was initially literal - making sure the computer didn't catch fire when running at full capacity.
jakill101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Learned about this in my computer science class. When digital logic was expressed through vacuum tubes, bugs would find their way into the tubes, causing issues for the person(s) operating the computer
Zeruvi ยท 407 points ยท Posted at 15:22:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Original bugs were literal bugs shorting out a massive board or getting smeared on the tape/card
namakius ยท 389 points ยท Posted at 15:36:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tl;dr
Early engineers were able to come up with excuses for why their stuff broke much easier. :p
bizitmap ยท 325 points ยท Posted at 16:32:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God I can only imagine how elated people were when anything worked at all during the earliest computer era
Like I just about shit my pants with glee when my "hello world" python project doesn't throw an error, can you imagine when you've made something the size of a building out of vaccuum tubes and hope and it actually works?
namakius ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 17:28:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It baffles me to this day still. It's crazy to think how some people were able to build computers. They had all these crazy parts and tubes back then. And read paper for input. Just incredible.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:15:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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jwm3 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:57:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were modified looms. There were already industrial looms that used rolls of paper with punches in them to control the pattern stitched. They used the same tech for early computers.
Hongcouver ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:28:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquard_loom
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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namakius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean computer today are all still run on boolean logic.
What gets me is how they managed to run th original ones and just make all that work. It's crazy. I'm sure if I was in the presence of a working original room sized computer i could get a better understanding.
It's hars to explain the puzzling nature of it I guess. Haha
frenchchevalierblanc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:47:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now imagine you had to punch a set of cards correctly and you had a special time allocated for your small experiment and that two or three other people were involved while you watched your program failed miserably, with your colleagues waiting for their turn and thinking how you waste everybody's time.
AntmanIV ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:06:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse if you didn't number your cards and dropped the stack...
DrunkenShitposter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, there wasn't just ONE programmer; it was a TEAM of programmers, setting the computer using patch cables!
PiercedGeek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:49:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You probably already have, but if you haven't please watch The Imitation Game. It's about Alan Turing. Great movie.
mountrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch "Hidden Figures" and see the installers trying to get the new IBM mainframe to work.
billbapapa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll tell you, once in a while, you run into errors that aren't you, and you pull your hair out. Imagine if your processor couldn't do division properly and gave you the wrong result, you relied on that, and who would believe you that Intel was to blame when your program gave the wrong answer?
mxzf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That happens even now. You start using something from a library and wonder why on earth this weird bug is happening and it turns out that the library is implemented wrong.
Plasma_000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back when debugging was poking around inside with a multimeter
polarbearrape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I briefly worked with a team developing a tunable terahertz source. When things go right you're almost so shocked you assume your instruments must be having problems.
smrtbomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First message on Arpanet (precursor to the internet) actually didn't work the first time. It crashed mid message.
http://thisdayintechhistory.com/10/29/first-message-on-the-internet/
kindall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And trying to figure out which vacuum tube has gone on the fritz when the machine's not working right? But at least the tubes were more reliable than the mechanical relays used previously.
Laogeodritt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a graduate student doing analog and mixed signal IC design.
That still happens. We put in months or a year of research, circuit design, and layout, and then three to eight months later get this tiny 1-5mm2 chip back from the fab and it... works. It does things.
captenplanet90 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"bugs ate my homework"
Mr-Blah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Early engineers had to actually engineer stuff instead of fill spreadsheet.
WatdeeKhrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"blame hardware"
frenchchevalierblanc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:46:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thomas Edison talked about finding bugs in 1889
TorchedBlack ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:42:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, bugs have referred to kinks or errors for a while.
some_random_kaluna ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now they're just called features.
the_real_xuth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the word/usage predates this. But when an actual bug caused a "bug" it was amusing and noteworthy.
jfoust2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. https://www.computerworld.com/article/2515435/app-development/moth-in-the-machine--debugging-the-origins-of--bug-.html
AllwaysHard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This means there was a phase of time where people referred to a computer programming problem as a 'bug' and the person listening probably thought it was a physical bug problem rather than an error in the coding, right?
slnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goes back to when a computer was basically a gym hall filled with electron tubes which occasionally had moths and shit end up inside them to block the flow.
sdneidich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
actually the original supposed case dates back before these inputs, which existed in the world of logic boards and microprocessors. The original bugs dated back to WWII or before, when the unit used for a processor's "switch" was a cathode ray tube. These light-based systems were larger than a lightbulb, and attracted moths. Moths in a tube caused the tube to fire inappropriately, resulting in abberant behavior of the computer.
flycast ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:26:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhh..... What about a patch on fabric? I think people have been doing that a little longer.
TrepanationBy45 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:00:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. Everybody lists the punch tape as "the origin" because of that conveniently sharable text/image, which obviously neglects to consider where that industry got it from - fabric and sewing.
survivingLettuce ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:28:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah hadn't thought that, but maybe it's because patching clothes has nothing to do with computers
st_samples ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, because when they filled the holes of the punch tape and called it a "patch", there was no way they we're referring to the common phrase. /s
NuclearTurtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The punch tape thing was how we got from the "mending clothes" definition to the "fixing computer clothes" definition. Winding something up was a thing before VHS tapes and cassettes, but those are why the term is synonymous with going backwards in a recording
derleth ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:41:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bug story is bullshit. Here's the real story:
POGtastic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:17:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite computer-related one is "solid state drive," which is a contradiction in terms.
A drive is a motor, used to spin a disk. A solid state drive has no moving parts; there's nothing to drive!
And a hard disk is called that to differentiate it from a floppy disk... which no one uses anymore.
Laogeodritt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's also "drive" as a circuit or unit that drives and controls a motor (for speed, torque, load regulation, etc.). A solid-state drive could also be a transistor-based motor drive, as opposed to tube and relay-based one. =P
uzrbin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:23:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think people were patching clothing before patching punch cards.
Belgand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:07:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a similar vein, a "patch" in regards to synthesizers and music production used to refer to the need to use short cables, i.e. "patch cables", to connect various modules. A particular setting would have a "patch diagram" prepared for it.
1stLtObvious ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patch a hole in clothing -> patch a hole in hardware -> patch a hole in software
toadmelon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's a computer?
jseego ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is another good one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kludge
Westnator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save icon is still a floppy disk
LysandersTreason ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma worked with punched-tape computers for 24 years. Now we're attempting to show her how to use a tablet. It's a challenge, but as long as she can get to her bridge game on it, she's happy.
TrepanationBy45 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The actual origin is a fabric patch, sewn over a hole or tear to repair the item. Punch tape patches draw their usage from the fabric term. In looking at how we use the terms patch or to patch, you can see how it went from a kind of colloquialism into regular and established usage as technology developed. From patching fabric to patching a call through, to patching punch tape corrections, to patching with computer code. To find "the origin", you merely go back to the chronological order of the technologies in question - the definition has always been the same.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crud! Cool.
adviceKiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit! I didn't know that one. I knew about the "bug" being a literal bug
moronicgenius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that what they are doing when they say they are fixing memory leaks?
daftpunk34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm an audio engineer and we patch outboard effects (reverb, compressors ect.) into the console and out.
flipping_birds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This also applies to patches when selecting a sound on a synthesizer or keyboard from when they used to use an actual patch cable.
dance_rattle_shake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. You think there's any linguistic relationship with patch cables (which are still used all the time?)
UnretiredGymnast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not really so much outdated as metaphorical.
Nutritionisawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patch is definitely still used in electronic music with the come back of analog synthesizers
potatan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm old enough to remember patching punch tapes in my first computer job. Thanks for reminding me. Have a sweetie
nonegotiation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wizards were originally expert computer users (people) who could install software or help you with your installation. Now they are software assistants (programs) to help with initial tasks of setting something up.
ryanloh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, despite knowing about the history of computing with Punch cards, I never put it together that patches and bugs were literal patches and bugs.
gmnitsua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps the Qwerty arrangement of letters on a keyboard also counts for this. The arrangement was designed to reduce the likelihood that a typerwriter would jam.
HyperManFromSpace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not called a patch these days, it's called a DLC.
BenIncognito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in QA and every morning weโd do a โsmoke testโ to make sure nothing was broken which originates from...testing to see if anything smoked when you turned it on.
SmashBusters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So back then, they'd release patches to software but also holes.
I wish hotfix had as cool an origin.
crimeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's also just a metaphor for patching anything being an ad hoc fix after release. Jeans, upholstery, holes in a boat. Etc. Doesn't seem archaic yet in that sense.
PolyNecropolis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Flashing your memory" back in the day actually meant peeling back it's sticker. This exposed a hole, and UV light would "flash" and erase the ROM.
jason_stanfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first synthesizers were all wall-sized arrays, and a sound signal had to be routed with patch cables through a collection of modules.
Compact synths followed with fixed signal paths inside the chassis of the instrument, and the controls on top. Microprocessors came along and sound settings could be stored instead of dialed in manually. Eventually clips of audio were integrated as sources of sound, and new synthesis techniques were developed.
Computing power increased, memory got cheap, and now everything is fully digital --manipulation of audio clips, virtual oscillators, multiple sound engines, etc. -- yet many people still refer to a single synth sound as a "patch".
scoobysnatcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve heard Apache (computer term) come from โa patch.โ Then again, Iโve also heard that strangers are just friends you havenโt met yet...so always get into their windowless van.
kasahito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother used to program (is that right? Program?) punch tape for my dad's CNC machines back in the late 80's and 90's
A_Used_American ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it had to do with how people would patch their clothes to fix them (my grandmother did this for us, a lot), or how patchwork quilts were made (she, and my great grandmother also did these).
BobT21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, have done this.
Source: 73 y.o. First computer I used was a PDP-8, tape punch on ASR-33 teletype user interface.
baswimmons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for cool fact and a source
fusiletum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow
UnknownPerson69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hence A-pache. There were so many patches they got their name. --Folklore Jim
Laogeodritt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In that vein, is there any precedent for something like leaving blank space, say after branches or subroutine returns, to allow for adding new instructions in case errors are discovered in a program?
skeddles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but the word patch still means to fix a weak spot which still accurately describes what you're doing...
theboomboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, the first computer bug was an actual bug eating the wires
Dark_messengeR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought the term was coined from that famius doctor who "patches" illness with laughter
FortyPercentTitanium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What's a computer?"
hogger85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't a 'bug' also an actual insect clogging the punch reader?
damian314159 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:07:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did not know this. Thanks for that bit of trivia :)
JeffersonOfNewYork ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:28:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I๏ธ work in network informatics and deal with patch panels all day. Itโs a fancy way of saying I๏ธ plug in cat 6 cables all day hahaha
devicer2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:46:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"patch" in another sense has an old origin too - synth patches! Most often nowadays they'll be a group of settings in a file for a soft synth but the origin is in telephone exchanges, then used for plugged modular synths and other audio gear, then we came to the current usage where a synth patch means the entire necessary settings for reproducing a particular sound and often used to mean the sound itself e.g- "I really like the patch used for the pads".
[Edit] I forgot about "patch me through" as well - still occasionally used but totally antiquated.
yougotcooties ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:51:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, this is the best one so far! Wow...wow wow wow. A word I've used for years, nay decades and it's never ocurred to me!
tl;dr; i stupid
MrPythen ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:02:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a bug was originaly an actual bug in the computer messing up the code
lemongrabbers ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a similar vein, "coredump" used to refer to the machine literally dropping the magnetic cores that contained the in-memory state of the program after a crash
p9k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
Core memory is nonvolatile unlike RAM, so when your program crashes and you reset the computer, the core still has the contents of your program and data just before the crash. This is helpful when debugging.
A core dump is a copy made of the core to disk or tape so you could return the (back in the day) expensive machine to service and look through the crash on your own time. The concept is kept around because of RAM volatility and modern OSes tendency to free program memory after a crash.
peekaayfire ยท 3049 points ยท Posted at 17:28:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb, idiot & moron.
We use them as kind of low grade insults but at one point in time they were exclusively medical terms for the mentally disabled/impaired.
T_sardonicus ยท 1933 points ยท Posted at 18:08:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imbecile was one of these, too.
To clarify for everyone: dumb was a synonym for mute; idiot, imbecile, and moron were terms used to describe one's mental capacity. A moron (IQ 51-70) was more mentally capable than an imbecile, and an idiot was the least so (IQ 0-25).
tavianator ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 21:14:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Based on the definition of IQ, there are an expected ~2000 people in the entire world with IQ 25 or lower, and an expected ~0.09 people with IQ 0 or lower.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:12:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are those people even like? Can they communicate?
waywardwoodwork ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 00:20:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're doing just great.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:21:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucken goteeeem
Petrichordates ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:27:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did someone revive you from the vaults of early naughts white urban culture?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:50:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, I had a sub 20 iq from like 2001 to 2017, but I got better though! Sorry about the Trump vote though :(
willengineer4beer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:53:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/murderedbywords
alosercalledsusie ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:32:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably severely mentally handicapped.
Iโm a disability carer and I work with some clients who, while physically are fine, canโt figure out how to dress them self, donโt have any reading comprehension, donโt know what day it is nor do they have any concept of time.
Edit: they can communicate basic things such as if they need to go to the toilet or need help with something. They only really say single words.
tavianator ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:27:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are probably at least 2000 people in a permanent vegetative state. Practically the IQ scale is not useful around this range.
TitaniumDragon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:12:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Well, at least not in a linguistic sense; like most animals, they do have some ability to communicate via body language and suchlike.
T_sardonicus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:45:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I mean, this is from a time when psychology was barbaric as fuck, people thought masturbation could be "cured" through a diet of corn flakes or graham crackers, and IQ was even more useless as a metric than it is today.
Echo127 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you implying that 0 isn't the bottom of the scale?
tavianator ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:35:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. IQ is defined to be normally distributed with a mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15. If you were ~7 or more standard deviations below average, you'd have an IQ below zero.
There are not enough people in the world for anybody to be 7 standard deviations in either direction though. But with a big enough population it could theoretically happen.
cmn3y0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The IQ distribution is sort of bimodal though, specifically because of mental disabilities. So there should be more than that.
Tinfoil_Haberdashery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yeah. But that mean/standard deviation model doesn't take pathalogical conditions into account, and that far out on the bell curve actual numbers will vary wildly.
frolicking_elephants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, is it possible to have an IQ less than 0? Wouldn't that make you basically a rock?
TitaniumDragon ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:14:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It makes you very unintelligent. I don't think anyone has ever gotten an IQ score that low, though, because they're too incapacitated to even take an IQ test.
tavianator ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:26:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if there were 70 billion people in the world, the least smart one would have an IQ of around 0 by definition. In practice the IQ scale becomes useless long before then.
frolicking_elephants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I was thinking. IQ scores are normalized to a median of 100. It shouldn't be possible to have an IQ less than 0.
randomtechguy142857 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:48:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In theory (because that's the only way this whole thing works), IQ is a normal distribution defined to have a mean of 100 and SD of 15, right? Then it should definitely be possible, just very unlikely, to have an IQ of less than 0 or (in theory) any arbitrary number. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
[deleted] ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 19:59:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Petal_Phile ยท 245 points ยท Posted at 21:53:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Retarded actually came into use as a more politically correct word to use instead of moron or imbecile or idiot. Now, it too, is considered politically incorrect.
coontietycoon ยท 218 points ยท Posted at 22:48:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah cause some moronic retard decided we all need to switch the words we use in a never ending cycle of idiocy.
SeeYouSpaceCowboy--- ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 22:50:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, dumb.
scyth3s ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 22:58:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*retarded
Dumb is offensive.
SeeYouSpaceCowboy--- ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, that was retardedly idiotic of me.
Fat_Brando ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:28:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imbecile.
HiImNickOk ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:17:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck
kembervon ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 23:39:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's called the Euphemism Treadmill.
coontietycoon ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:43:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a firm believer that anyone contributing to the Euphenism Treadmill should get a mandatory free ride on the Euthanasia Treadmill.
Ginger-saurus-rex ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:52:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds very Carlin-esque and I love it.
ShinyMet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basically this means in 20 years people will be saying โman, you are fucking special needsโ
HulloHoomans ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:52:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, what are you, differently abled or something?
kembervon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "special" is already a derogatory term where I'm from. My ex-girlfriend's sister's reaction to seeing Futurama for the first time was "Wow...this show looks really...special."
Schnort ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:53:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure we were saying that 40 years ago.
Headycrunchy ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:25:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You slow mentaly handicapped autistic fuck is what the kids are saying now
coontietycoon ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 00:26:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love it
carelessthoughts ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:11:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's logic. It's never been about the word but what the word means.
FuckBigots5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What an imbecile!
DaSaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's totally gay.
danbfree ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:01:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet, mental retardation is the actual medical term used now (Source: I'm a medical admin)... Sure there is developmental disabled, but that could refer to other conditions as well, so retardation is retardation, officially in medical terms.
cobysev ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:31:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when "mentally challenged" was the politically correct term to replace "retarded." Now that, too, is no longer politically correct.
No matter what word you use, it's overuse in the negative will eventually turn it into a bad word.
AliveByLovesGlory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people find mentally impaired to be wrong as well, and want to be referred to as "differently abled".
It's not the word you use, it's the distinction itself that makes the word politically incorrect.
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 21:10:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iirc retard was 60-80, less serious than imbecile or moron
Xaephos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you okay? Should I call an ambulance?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that was typed on moble, oops
Lyndis_Caelin ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 22:25:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And why people are now using "autistic" as the new insult...
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:56:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same reason cuck is. 4chan.
AliveByLovesGlory ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:44:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cuck is a pre-internet insult
DaSaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it was, it only was in the cousinfuckin backcountry or something. I'd never heard it before it emerged on the Internet. I was familiar with the word "cuckold", which was some archaeic word I might see in Shakespeare or something.
nongzhigao ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure "cuck" will never fall off the Euphemism Treadmill due it being offensive to actual cuckolds.
Rohwupet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:16:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also, unfortunately, very phonetically satisfying.
SirPseudonymous ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:07:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That one's actually via Steve Bannon and Breitbart, who used it in reference to the neo-Nazi novel The Camp of the Saints which used it as another way of saying "race traitor" (its literal meaning is something along the lines of "someone who gets off watching their country be raped by nonwhite immigration"). So yeah, whenever you see someone shouting "cuck," that is what they really mean by it; it's neo-Nazi language through and through.
IcedMachiavelli ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:47:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit, itโs short for cuckold.
noun (archaic): The husband of an adulteress, often regarded as an object of derision.
verb: (of a man) make (another man) a cuckold by having a sexual relationship with his wife.
Take from Wikipedia:
โThe word cuckold derives from the cuckoo bird, alluding to its habit of laying its eggs in other birds' nests. The association is common in medieval folklore, literature, and iconography.
English usage first appears about 1250 in the satirical and polemical poem "The Owl and the Nightingale" (l. 1544). The term was clearly regarded as embarrassingly direct, as evident in John Lydgate's "Fall of Princes" (c. 1440). In the late 14th century, the term also appeared in Geoffrey Chaucer's "The Miller's Tale". Shakespeare's poetry often referred to cuckolds, with several of his characters suspecting they had become one.
One often-overlooked subtlety of the word is that it implies that the husband is deceived, that he is unaware of his wife's unfaithfulness and may not know until the arrival or growth of a child plainly not his (as with cuckoo birds).โ
SirPseudonymous ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:42:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its modern use was popularized by Steve Bannon via Breitbart, and it is used exclusively by neo-Nazis and neo-Nazi adjacent groups.
SuperiorExcess ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:01:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess cuckold porn/fetish isn't a thing anymore then. And someone tell the cuckoo birds that they're filthy Neo-Nazis too.
Holociraptor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been in use way longer than that. IIRC even an older Simpsons episode contains a line like that.
lepusfelix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um... It's only neo Nazi language in that context. There's a whole demographic of people who derive actual sexual pleasure from the humiliation of watching their partner with another person. Like... Calling an actual cuckold a cuckold would neither be Nazi nor an insult.
SirPseudonymous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But in the context of its modern usage as a generic insult it is restricted solely to neo-Nazis and neo-Nazi adjacent groups, with the extremely rare exception of someone turning it back on them with a more traditional meaning.
SharqZadegi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:29:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that's even true, I guarantee you 99.9% of the autists using "cuck" on the internet have no clue.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 03:09:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything is Neo Nazi language. Also you're wrong. It started becoming internet slang in 2014 at the beginning of the Gamergate debacle, with 4chan using it to describe Erin Gjoni
King_Of_Regret ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:16:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And steven bannon started gamergate. Sooooooo same thing basically.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 04:38:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bannon had nothing to do with Gamergate. It was a grass roots movement out of the gaming community. Unless the right wing Steve Bannon convinced several left wing video gaming publications to collude for several years beforehand.
Everyone I don't like is breitbart or nazi.
King_Of_Regret ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:47:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look up bannons history with world of warcraft and his comments on gamer culture in general. And look what website broke the most gamergate news. Get back to me.
Lothlorien_Randir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for this information. Also fuck you balloon, you a waste.
SirPseudonymous ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:14:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"It wasn't neo-Nazis, it was neo-Nazis selling anti-Feminist rage to disaffected young men with the stupidest manufactured scandal ever!"
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone is a Neo Nazi. Never mind their were using it to insult the guy whose side Gamergate was on.
SuperiorExcess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dae le 4chan does everythign? xD
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well in this instance they did, though the term had been around for years, it was made popular by 4chan.
lepusfelix ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:06:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm autistic. I'm not a footnote for someone else's insult directed at someone else.
Way I see it, I'm a pretty well balanced and reasonable person, so if someone is getting 'insulted' as being similar to me, it probably isn't very effective. Might as well just denigrate them by calling them 'galactic overlord' or something. Can be good or bad, depending on how much of a twat this overlord is. He'd be rich and powerful, though, so maybe that's a compliment in the end?
In other words, if you get all insulted and butthurt that someone called you autistic, just remember me and realise that you're offended at being compared to me. I figure the only person actively insulting me in that scenario is you. Probably simpler to just be like 'lol is that your best insult?' and then proceed to destroy the fucker.
Lyndis_Caelin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:23:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not insulted when someone calls me autistic. The problem is that people are using autistic as an insult, much like "retarded" was used.
lepusfelix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but I find the best way to fight back is to educate.
'umm you know a lot of autistic people are highly intelligent, don't you? Oh.. you don't? Well you know what kind of person doesn't know what they're talking about don't you? Yes, that's right, fucknuts, nobody. Nobody but you could be so impressively stupid. I hope I'm not using to many long words for you'
Etc, etc... The aim isn't to belittle, as much as it is to highlight the lack of original, or even any, thought in their insult. Though it definitely doesn't hurt to throw in just enough belittling to really discourage further comebacks.
...can you tell I got bullied a lot in school and learned a skill I call 'insult chess'?
Win10cangof--kitself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC, the origin of that is a 4chan thread making fun of a tumblr thread where a few people(kids most likely) were self diagnosing themselves as autistic off some online test or something.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:30:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intelligence-based insults are always going to be like that. How dumb does someone have to be before they stop being a "fucking idiot" and instead are "mentally challenged" and you shouldn't make fun of them for that?
notepad20 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:35:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
retard, literally, means slow or to slow.
A retarded person has a slowed ability to learn.
Its the absolute most apt word to use, and is used in a million other contexts to describe something that is slowed. It shouldn't be offensive at all.
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:25:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, none of these terms should be, in a perfect world. But, people co opt them to use as insults so we change the terminology every once in awhile. It's really treating a symptom instead of the problem, but the problem is that people are dicks, so, y'know.
MrBalloonHand ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:31:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is the most concise and realistic explanation of the euphemism treadmill I've read, and I am someone who spends entirely too much time on the internet.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, I've never heard that term. It's a good one.
turkeyblatwrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
telling someone that they have an inadequate level of intelligence is a bit wordy and not very impactful for an insult though.
Echo127 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:23:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I try to tell people who get hung up on the word. I'm told "disabled" is the proper term now, but "mentally disabled" implies that you are entirely incapable of processing thoughts while "mentally retarded" implies that your mental capacities are merely hindered. Or, more accurately...retarded. Now you tell me which of those two definitions sounds worse.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:02:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point but connotation is a thing, and retarded has a negative connotation now.
ms_rap_man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GOOD point, but it's pretty disabled that that's the way it is.
snopro ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 20:30:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the same kids that get upset when you call someone/thing retarded or gay are that same morons using autistic and aspergers every other sentence.
Pawprintjj ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 20:31:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are these kids communicating with pheromones?
snopro ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 20:39:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking autocorrect literally makes me look like an idiot by fixing properly used words...
The other day it corrected "Ill pull out my SSD and drop in an NVME drive" to "I'll pull out my ass and drop in a penis drive" to my fellow sysadmin...
Pawprintjj ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 20:43:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has your fellow sysadmin stopped laughing yet?
snopro ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 20:44:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It happens both ways, the other day he said he needed to get out of the office for sanitary(sanity) reasons.
I was like wut.
kevie3drinks ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:21:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he shit his pants, and is post hoc blaming autocorrect.
illiteratidomine ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:07:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, did it work?
ouyawei ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:24:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Autocorrect usually tries to guess the words by how common you use them โฆ
snopro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well then autocorrect hit the nail on the head.
AluminiumSandworm ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:26:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
im picturing a bunch of kids sniffing each other silently.
this is starting to make me uncomfortable im going to stop now.
scyth3s ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:00:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine, they don't understand social norms. It's why they get along with dogs so well, though.
HamWatcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found your new fetish?
Saiing ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 20:32:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful who you call a moron there, kid.
sadmanwithabox ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:38:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also
Just saying...someone needs a grammar lesson lol
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:25:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like calling things retarded, but I also don't like making fun of autism. It's just as bad. I really can't stand those that take issue with one thing, but are totally apathetic about the other.
Themeparkmaker ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:43:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a sperg and i really dont mind.
What matters is your intent behind the usage, not the word.
If you are actively trying to degrade me i will be pissed. But if you are just callin your tv retarded for not working properly it doesnt bother me.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:55:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if I call my TV an autist?
Themeparkmaker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:02:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont mind dude
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like "autistic" (and even "sperg") as an insult tends to have a more specific connotation than "retarded", which is more or less synonymous with "dumb". It's more specific to lack of social awareness and general social ineptitude and other stereotypical autism traits, rather than regular ol' stupidity, probably because of the stereotype that many autistic people are actually savants with no social skills (in reality this only applies to a very, very small percentage).
Petrichordates ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would "retarded" bother an autist?
Themeparkmaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because autistic kids on the more severe end are often called retarded
snopro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How hard is it to understand? the literal definition is the deciding factor.
SadGhoster87 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:09:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean no, people who are against one are generally against the other.
DamienWayneIsABitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh no.
TheCouncil1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:42:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, some of us moved on from using disabilities as insults. I apologize for my usage of them from ~2004-2010.
PointyOintment ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And what do you use instead?
scyth3s ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:01:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reprobate.
Dahvood ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:16:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use fruit. โYouโre a fucking apricotโ
It leads to confusion which I find hilarious.
TheCouncil1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:46:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Breakfast-ass bitch" is a favorite of mine.
Xaephos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:10:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Generally I call them by their name - unfortunate I began also using their name to insult other things...
RussianSkunk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:03:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find that having my name used as an insult is more hurtful than anything else they could come up with. Being told that your entire identity is a bad thing is a little harder to fix than an individual attribute.
Das_Mojo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I called my journeyman a discombobulated nincompoop the other day
Fat_Brando ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bureaucracy.
ducklingsaresocool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cretin
PointyOintment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"a dwarfed and deformed idiot"
ducklingsaresocool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, TIL. Thanks, friend!
coontietycoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty gay to get offended about someone saying something's retarded.
Petrichordates ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:22:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever word you choose to use will eventually become offensive.
anandamind ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 20:32:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It may be offensive but they truly are a nuisance on society. JUST SAYING. It's a big fucken deal.
Jack_Krauser ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:55:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a little more complicated than that. Economically, it's a terrible deal paying 6 figures per person per year, but how do you put a price on the peace of mind that comes with knowing everybody in our society will be treated well no matter their circumstance? I wouldn't want to live in a country that murders its own citizens when they stop being useful and the people who are most capable of emigrating (doctors, engineers, etc.) are the ones you most want to keep.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:54:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which is ironic, nobody uses retard to describe the differently abled. We use it exclusively as an insult.We god damn know its offensive janet, that's why we use the word.
ZapActions-dower ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 20:59:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Furthermore, "lame," one of the lamest insults today, meant you had a crippled leg or foot.
rad2themax ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:18:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a crippled leg. I enjoy referring to it or me as lame in the original context.
-Falk- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The danish equivalent "lam" still refers to a crippled limb.
ChickenSun ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:48:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Reminds me of the spastic society here in the UK. They renamed themselves Scope since spastic became a playground insult for being disabled.
spleencheesemonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joey.
Ratiocinor ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:08:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hence the association between "deaf dumb and blind"
eurtoast ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:59:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure plays a mean pinball
I-believe-I-can-die ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:58:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I'm about to do something, I think, "Would an idiot do that?" And if they would, I do not do that thing.
peekaayfire ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:28:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idiots still breathe, yo
I-believe-I-can-die ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's from the Office idiot
scyth3s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pwnt
raptorgeddon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:14:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always reminds me of Buck v. Bell , a Supreme Court case upholding sterilization of mentally handicapped people in which Justice Holmes states, "Three generations of imbeciles are enough."
TitaniumDragon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:11:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb is still a synonym for mute, but its usage in such a manner is infrequent; you will still hear people talk about being struck dumb at times, or someone being deaf and dumb. That said, mute tends to be used instead of dumb a lot more often.
woodruff07 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:27:03 on May 24, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs also a โdumb waiterโ, that thing in a house that can bring food from one floor to another automatically.
Come to think of it, Iโve never seen a dumb waiter either, so I donโt know why I know this word...
T_sardonicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, and I should have said that it's relatively archaic.
flaccomcorangy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:26:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And lame meant crippled or some form of physical disability.
MattGeddon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:07:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure how this fits in, but I have lots of old football (soccer) programmes from the 30s-50s and many of them have adverts for giving money to help โthe spasticsโ. Obviously not okay now but perfectly acceptable then apparently.
Lazek ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:06:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this vein, if someone is "struck dumb" it means they were made speechless, not that they were somehow stupider.
13al42mo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:05:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly, the word idiot is derived from ancient Greek where it means expert.
matthewtheninja ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:34:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, Nimrod was a mighty hunter from the bible but because of Bugs Bunny calling Elmer Fudd 'Nimrod' ironically now most people just use it to mean a dumb or foolish person.
TheVeryMask ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:10:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember, he was alive in the period just after the flood when humans were told to scatter and refill the earth, and then he immediately built the Tower of Babel, concentrating as many people into as narrow a place as possible. So that was pretty dumb.
Mythodiir ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:44:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nimrod was also a God or some sort of figure in most Semitic religions. I think it was the Babylonians who worshipped him.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:26:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Erm... Not so sure about that, bud..
idiot
ORIGIN Middle English (denoting a person of low intelligence): via Old French from Latin idiota โignorant person,โ from Greek idiลtฤs โprivate person, layman, ignorant person,โ from idios โown, private.โ
Snax63 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:31:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't right actually. The Greek word "Idiotes", from which idiot derives, meant a person who doesn't contribute to society and kept to themselves. Like a "loner".
Coincidentally, by ancient Greek terms, I'm a fucking idiot.
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coltwitch ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:36:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just the ancient Greek version of sarcastically calling somebody "Einstein"
13al42mo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:39:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha nah...It was used quite literally.
iamasuitama ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:57:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Idiot meant anybody who was not allowed to vote. In that time, that would have included slaves, all women, people who don't have citizenship in general..
coffee_o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it mostly referred to those who could but didn't.
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iamasuitama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:03:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm talking about ancient greek. Here's some info
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iamasuitama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:46 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I'm responding to someone who's talking about ancient greece. So why don't you keep out of that convo then, or stay on topic.
TaylorS1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It meant a recluse.
coffee_o ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're correct that it comes from ancient Greek, but what it originally meant was a person who didn't participate in Athenian democracy by attending the Assembly (plural form, the only one I know, idiotes). So it's always been derogatory.
gorcorps ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh... I've always felt the word "imbecile" was more insulting than "idiot". Now I just feel dumb...
Serious question: can I call somebody stupid without it being a specific IQ range? I certainly don't want to offend someone by calling them an imbecile if they're really only a moron, so to be safe I'm assuming I can just call them "stupid" until their test results get back and I know for sure.
AEsirTro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can safely use the catch all term "OP".
fuckwatergivemewine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:40:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I read was there are people who are officially morons
toxicgecko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:32:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought dumb was the correct term until at least age 9/10 The pinball wizard greatly misled me.
T_sardonicus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean, correct as in the correct term for unable to speak? It's still a proper term, it's just way out of use.
toxicgecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct as in I thought it was the most used and the polite term
Zingshidu ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:58:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lame is one of these too,
So I guess autistic will be a playground insult in like 50 years
T_sardonicus ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:41:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who says it isn't already?
Petrichordates ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:28:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently it is. I even see it here sometimes.
rad2themax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely is. My dad always used to make fun of me and call me an Autist. But we're both very likely on the spectrum, so I guess it didn't count. (I pitched the idea of having Asperger's to my shrink when I was 12 and she pretty much said, yeah but you're so high functioning it's not worth testing)
coffee_o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It basically is now, which is pretty gross IMO.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, TIL.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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T_sardonicus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phrenology, eugenics, transorbital lobotomy... there was a lot of terrible shit happening then, yeah.
AEsirTro ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:18:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah considering the time and a lack of social security or general care I can't completely disagree with sterilisation being a bad thing. Having two mentally handicapped people fucking like rabbits and creating 10 kids they can't possibly care for may be a worse situation.
scatteredthroughtime ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:59:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, TIL why the phrase goes "deaf and dumb."
Wheream_I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also lame is a medical term meaning not able to walk.
GallowFroot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And idiot comes from the greek, to refer to someone who didn't vote. i- is the prefix for "no", dit- means to speak (or something like that)
Malcolm_TurnbullPM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
spastic too
PM_ME_YOUR_APP_IDEA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, in Dutch dumb (stom) still both means mute and dumb. Now I know why :)
kevie3drinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey there Mister, i'm no Idiot, I'm a moron!"
up-quark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I thought idiot originally referred to someone who was uneducated. Not necessarily low IQ, just someone who hadnโt been taught how to do something.
If someone figured out their own way of doing something, then it would be โidiosyncraticโ.
RocketTrousers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah i remember one of our teachers in middle school called hellen keller dumb, and everyone got mad at her, she explaned it ment mute but i think the people didnt believe her.
jmwhitton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about being donkey brained?
Aqua783 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boy I have a hatred for the word dumb ever since my grade 6 teacher told me to go get the dictionary to look up what the word meant. Apparently I used it wrong and telling her I thought it meant stupid wasnโt enough. She got her satisfaction when the first definition was mute and the second was stupid. Spiteful bitch.
AscensionDay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read this in Groucho Marx's voice
EMPTY_SODA_CAN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
President Trump is an Idiot.
LessMochaJay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So blind, deaf, and dumb in turn is blind, deaf, and mute.
ediblesprysky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually didn't know it was possible to have an IQ of 0. Are there documented cases, or is it just theoretical?
tourqeglare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mildly unrelated but Nimrod was originally a biblical Hunter. It came to become synonymous with idiot because Bugs Bunny was picking on Elmer Fudd, using the name as if it were synonymous with the word idiot.
Wolfboy822 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GnarlsGnarlington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But he sure plays a mean pinball.
carelessthoughts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember learning about Helen Keller when I was in 2nd grade ('92) and our teacher taught us that she was blind deaf and dumb. And I remember being surprised that being a mute was called dumb. However I never heard it used again, not even when Helen Keller came up a few times years later. My teacher must have been pretty old fashioned I'm assuming.
Banshee90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blind deaf and dumb makes more sense now
aardvark34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So technically Trump is a moron and not an idiot or imbecile.
Sendmeloveletters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb was a little different as I learned it. A mute person was biologically unequipped with the required apparatus for speech, and couldnโt produce the sounds needed to talk. A person who is Dumb is biologically capable of speech, but does not know a single language and is thus incapable of doing so for a different reason than the mute.
cate_is_kill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feeewh, cloes one amlost a moron... Im pruod of my iq of 23
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TwatsThat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:33:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're actually close to an imbecile not a moron, you idiot.
GSlayerBrian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought an "idiot" was someone who didn't vote in elections in antiquity.
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[deleted] ยท 390 points ยท Posted at 20:29:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mental Retardation already has its name changed a couple years ago. I don't think intellectual disability, the new name, will become a slur, but autistic already has begun to become one in the past couple years.
PM_ME_YOUR_PM_MEMES ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 20:48:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Intellectually disabled" has too many syllables and contains the word Intellectually which sounds a bit too nice, but I could potentially see "disabled" becoming the new "retarded" given enough time.
Lectricanman ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 21:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever you say In-dee...
DarkInfernoGaming ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:41:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Disabled" is already used as an insult in schools I've been to and am currently attending, it has been for a number of years too.
awesomepawsome ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:59:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but the difference is when it gets to the point where when something bad happens, someone says "That shit's disabled"
Which I don't think we will be at for a while.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:26:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'll move faster than you think.
beardbrazil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:52:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for example, in French people say "handicapรฉ" to call someone a retard, even though it's the politically correct term
Dovakhiins-Dildo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, I refer to someone as disabled if they do something REALLY unintelligent and dangerous, particularly if it's likely to hurt others. I'm careful with its frequency though, and I don't use it around kids.
frolicking_elephants ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:06:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, "disabled" also refers to people of perfectly normal intelligence who are in wheelchairs or blind or have cancer, so that's an even shittier thing to say than normal slurs.
Dovakhiins-Dildo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:01:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and as I said with the other response, I'm taking the other such implications into consideration now as it is a fair point to make, and as I have no justification for it.
frolicking_elephants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I respect that. Good on you, man.
Dovakhiins-Dildo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:20:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks.
mondaymoderate ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:29:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesnโt this degrade the actual use of the word disabled. If youโre going to use a slur might as well use retard instead of tainting the new term.
Dovakhiins-Dildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, in trying to respond to you I have little to excuse it's use other than its more impactful and unexpected than retard or other such terms, so I am certainly reconsidering it's use.
nicht_ernsthaft ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:11 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not just say "hard of thinking"? The point is not to be nasty to people, not necessarily to use some precise diagnosis, one could use any term which isn't too loaded with venom or contempt.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:02:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:15:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might as well call her retarded, because its the same damn thing.
People have been calling each-other stupid probably since the dawn of man. The treadmill effect is pretty dumb.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ShiraCheshire ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:14:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when "gay" was commonly used as a term for something that's bad or stupid. While I was in full support of the push to end that use of the word, I didn't really understand then how it felt to have something that describes you used like that. People would give examples like "What if instead of gay it was your name being used that way," but that doesn't do the feeling justice at all.
Now people are starting to use autistic as an insult. It's a lot more jarring than I thought it would be. Takes me totally out of whatever I'm watching/reading/listening to. I'll get to the end of something and all I can think of is how disheartening it is to see an opinion or person I respected followed by an insult like that.
Robatronic ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 21:20:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually my Ex-wife is a Special Education Teacher for lower functioning students. And they really are starting to keep ahead of the curve on this. What is acceptable to call the students seems to change about every 2 years. I would just get used to the new term and she would say something like "We don't use that term anymore" in a tone as if I being racist. Last I heard they were at "Intellectually challenged"
CWM_93 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:20:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was at school (5-10 year ago), 'special needs', 'special', and 'spesh' were commonly used as insults.
soigneusement ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:46:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We use CI - cognitively impaired.
mordacthedenier ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:51:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, my subscription to Special Education Weekly expired and I keep forgetting to renew it, so I haven't been able to keep up.
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Robatronic ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:19:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she is my ex-wife.....
Pickled_Wizard ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:34:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the name may change, but there will always be kids banging their hand against their chest at an awkward angle and saying "durrr..."
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:39:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Truly an image that transcends time
Sloth_Senpai ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:03:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Autistic will remain an insult for the same reason everything on the internet is cancer. It's a long lasting, common(as in there's a good chance you know someone autistic), and awful thing.
plasmidlifecrisis ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:12:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's fair to say autism is an awful thing, especially not with comparisons to cancer.
xyifer12 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:16:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It makes people require lifelong care, why would it not be awful?
SLUnatic85 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 21:24:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
while on the topic. awful. used to mean full of awe. full of reverential respect mixed with fear or wonder.
LemonJongie23 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:25:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi I'm autistic and I don't need "lifelong care" thank you very much (and I also use autism as an insult)
xyifer12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:35 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your situation isn't the same as every other autistic person and that does nothing to my argument.
Dolthra ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:48:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure your general practitioner disagrees.
Edit: Jesus Christ this was simply supposed to be a joke about how your general practitioner wants you to come in every year, regardless of if you have autism or not.
Kurayamino ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:46:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if there's a term for people that have difficulty recognising subtle social cues like this joke.
LemonJongie23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dont bother with the lonely 13 year old troll
LemonJongie23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow you're an asshole. So every single autistic person ever needs to be looked after like a 5 year old? Even if they're high functioning (like me and a million other people)? Get fucked
que_hora_es ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:22:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit thank you random stranger on the internet. You clearly know what's best for them and they should totally stop being a functioning, successful adult. Because anything you are diagnosed with should always define and hinder you! //s
OffendedPotato ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:23:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't? There are different levels, and lots of people with autism live normal lives and doesn't consider it to be an awful thing
peekaayfire ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:30:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In fact, some of the autists in silicon valley are wildly successful and independently wealthy
Jack_Vermicelli ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:33:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And some people with cancer or missing limbs or blindness do very well for themselves, too.
ritchie70 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:54:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is that autism is also concurrent with intellectual/developmental problems. My sister-in-law, despite always being referred to as "autistic" by her family, was actually described as "mental retardation with autistic tendencies" in her childhood records that I stumbled across while cleaning out her mother's house.
TwatsThat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:38:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are different levels of cancer too, same with AIDS. There's plenty of people who have lived normal lives with both of those just like with autism. However, there are also people with all three where it's completely debilitating and they will never live a normal life.
OffendedPotato ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:35:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except autism is not a disease, its part of who they are as a person. The person i responded to made it seem like every single person with autism require lifelong care, i specified that its not true in every case
doctorocelot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:19:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's not true of cancer either.
TwatsThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:54 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one said autism was a disease, and cancer can sometimes be cured with a quick and simple surgery and thus be less debilitating than even mild autism. I get that you don't like the analogy, but that doesn't make it inaccurate.
Pickled_Wizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But when people use it as an insult, they mean those lower on the spectrum who are unable to function independently, with a lot of stress on acting inappropriately towards other people.
xyifer12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:20 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it does, not everyone with autism can take care of themselves.
OffendedPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:50 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh yeah I know? I was specifying that not everyone requires lifelong care
xyifer12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:13 on December 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and i never said that everyone does, so why do that?
OffendedPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:56 on December 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You made a blanket statement which in no way implied any differences between people.
xyifer12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:35 on December 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"It makes people require lifelong care" My first post.
"No it doesn't?" Your reply.
"Yes it does, not everyone with autism can take care of themselves" My correction of your reply.
For your initial reply to be true, it would have to be that nobody with autism requires lifelong care because of autism.
OffendedPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:29 on December 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why are you still commenting?
xyifer12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:38 on December 24, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because people keep making mistakes like this, and i will correct it whenever i see it in a reply to me.
Sloth_Senpai ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cancer has come a long way from the absolute death sentence it was even 10 years ago, which may help it's use as an insult. Not dying to it means you suffer longer. But autism is an awful affliction to have and I guarantee that any austistic person would be glad to be rid of the disorder.
peekaayfire ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:31:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, I work with and know many aspies and autists. They dont consider their affliction a disability, they just see the world differently. Getting 'rid of the disorder' would be getting rid of themselves and who they are- they dont want that.
Now, severely autistic selfharming and completely care-reliant population probably falls under your claim, but definitely not the entire spectrum
rekcilthis1 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:03:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got strong feelings on this horseshit, do you wanna know what the worst time for me and the effects of my autism was? It was during the time I had these 'carers' during primary school and early highschool, they soften your mind and make you willing to accept mediocrity. Every time someone made a joke about my autism they were the ones that made me retreat further inward by consoling me with "I't's okay, you're perfect and special just the way you are" all the while my mental age is stagnating, and when it all just suddenly stopped at 14 I was left floundering and had to pick up the pieces myself and quite frankly I'm thankful for it because far too many have it stop in their mid twenties and they're stunted for ever. I just wish it had never started. So I'm suspicious of your claim that those autists saying they don't consider it a disability, and I've got a strong feeling they're just parroting their carers. I for one would love to be rid of it, and I'm actively trying to do so. I've even made progress. Crazy the things you can do when you aren't stagnating and allowing yourself to be treated like a child.
peekaayfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasnt a "carer" in the medical sense. I was a camp inclusion counselor and eventually the program director for the integration summer camps at the local Y (we served five towns for summer camps).
My experience with children with special needs started when I was 15yo, I was assigned to help a 6yo nonverbal boy with Downs Syndrome have a successful camp experience. My role varied week to week and I was paired up with many different children with many different challenges. Over the next three years it simply came to be that I had a knack for pairing up with children with autism and really helping them have meaningful experiences as campers.
My "methods" (really, just kind of my personality) revolved around genuinely treating my 'little friends' as regularly as possible. I didnt change the inflection of my voice, I didnt coddle them (beyond being aware of triggers and sensory input they were specifically averse to), and I always spurred organic interactions from the other campers.
Often the question came up what was "wrong" with the kids I was paired with, and I'd typically answer that there was nothing wrong about them and that if they pay attention everyone is a bit different and wants the same thing, to make friends and have fun.
The only time I ever disproportionately defended my campers was against a CIT who called them out in front of the group and said something like "theyre not even really our camper" - and I dragged her to the office and set the director on her.
If anything, I had such success in creating and growing the program because I pushed our campers to excel and positioned them towards things they enjoyed & were good at.
I've worked and been responsible for the full spectrum, and many other challenges, and I did not mean to imply the majority or even a large minority of those on the spectrum would not be rid of it given the chance. My comment was mainly to explain that the closer you get towards the higher functioning end, the less absolute the claim becomes. I have at least two friends with aspergers who have made very strong arguements that they dont want to be "cured"
rekcilthis1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:19:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Non-verbal"..."Nothing wrong"
See, that's my problem. There is something wrong with them, if there wasn't they wouldn't need help.
And of course you didn't want to imply they want to get rid of it, because an implication would mean you didn't outright say it thusly
"Nah, I work with and know many aspies and autists. They dont consider their affliction a disability, they just see the world differently. Getting 'rid of the disorder' would be getting rid of themselves and who they are- they dont want that."
And those aspie friends of yours are the same damn problem, anyone who has had to work against the problem themselves and hasn't been surrounded by enablers (y'know, actually living like everyone else rather than having the illusion of it) hates it. You have to do the same things everyone else has but you work at a disadvantage. It's the same perspective as someone who's wheelchair bound but has carers all the time saying it 'defines' them and it's 'part of who they are' because what defines them is someone that even if they could move would still need a carer. Difference between mental and physical disabilities is that there isn't an actual block. I don't get headaches when I act of my own initiative, and I don't pass out when I socialise with people.
Sloth_Senpai ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:43:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm talking from the experience of my little brother having autism. If he can't tell you what he wants because he can't think of the word almost immediately, he gets so frustrated that he begins crying. Most of the children in the group we joined seem to be the same way. The autistic people I've talked to online say the same thing. Being able to express yourself properly is like a goose with a golden egg. I can't see how being able to properly communicate with people could ever be a good thing.
peekaayfire ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:50:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Teach him sign language, let him make up his own signs and you can learn them. Learn HIS language, dont just force him to use pre-existing ones. I understand the frustration of the inability to communicate, my specialty is non-verbal children <6yo.
There are tools that can be used to grow communication skills and simply being autistic is not a death sentence or guarantee of social segregation by lack of communication abilities.
I'm sorry your experience leads you to believe every single autistic individual would choose to remove their autism given the chance, but it doesnt hold up to a larger view.
Anytime you say "every ___ would ____" when you're talking about humans there are always going to be exceptions and exclusions
Sloth_Senpai ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll talk to our parents about teaching him sign language but usually he points to the general area and we can figure it out by asking him simpler questions. It's just seeing how upset he is that he can't just tell us is heartbreaking.
peekaayfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How old is he?
Depending on his age and his needs, it may be prudent to get him communication cards (almost literally just a flash card with a picture + word on it) to help him get his needs across.
Important ones: Food, Water, Toilet, Outside/Inside, Upset/Sad, Happy, Thank you
Sloth_Senpai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's 8. We've taught him the words you've mentioned, but when he tries to get more complicated than basic words(when we tried to teach him reading to see if he could learn to write what he wants) he just shuts down.
Kaeflaith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're seeing all this from a neurotypical perspective. Yes, we often find it difficult to communicate with neurotypical people, the same as you find it difficult to communicate with us. But 'difficulty communicating' is subjective. When people see me and my other autistic friends together I frequently hear things like "Wow you're really social (for autistic people)" and "You look so normal". That's because we are normal to each other. We're weird to you, but from our side neurotypical people are weird and autistic people are normal. We can communicate just fine with each other; the gap isn't between one person and the rest of the world, it's between neurotypes. We have our own social rules and cues and body language and we know them, the same as neurotypical people know theirs. Sure, there are still autistic people I/we have difficulty with but neurotypical people also have difficulty with other neurotypical people sometimes.
In your brother's case I will agree with another commenter about sign language and letting him make up his own signs etc. Right now it seems like he's trying to make himself understood to you in a way that makes sense to you. But you don't make sense to him either, and communication has to be a two-way street to work. For example, my sister and I mostly communicate with neurotypical speech, but then we also have a series of gestures and sounds for places where we don't have words that fit, sometimes we mime things, we have certain phrases or references that communicate abstract ideas or feelings, and probably lots of other things I don't even consciously think about. It probably helped that she's the youngest so when she was learning to communicate it was with the influence of two autistic siblings and at least one autistic parent.
what_are_the_rules ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:53:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe you mean donkeybrained
i_dream_of_jankz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So happy to find this here.
Aururian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:01:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, in Romanian, calling someone "disabled" (handicapat) is an actual thing and is used as a mild insult. It's not far-fetched to assume that the same will happen with English.
doctorocelot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:23:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Handicapped is actually a word in English that's not used much anymore because it's not PC. Disabled parking spaces used to be called handicapped spaces for example.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Atheist101 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:44:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some places still use the word retard to mean slow, like if a train is going too fast and needs to slow down, the alarm might start yelling Retard! Retard!
bama05 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:13:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve heard โI.D.โ Used as an insult in a school that had an intellectual disabled population.
Pickled_Wizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And they had class in room 10-T.
ritchie70 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:55:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think we had a help desk tech or two severely reprimanded for entering "I-D-10T error" in a ticket.
CutterJohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, its just a PEBKAC error.
schoolzoneBS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in my country. mental retardation is still used in medical files. EDIT: a letter
brickmaster32000 ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 20:39:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it is autistic now. My old roommate used to sling that around as a general insult all the time and you see it plenty of times here on Reddit.
Johnappleseed4 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:02:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm.
13yo cousin called me autistic as an insult. (Iโm almost 30)
lepusfelix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:21:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I met a guy who was way ahead of the trend. He was a pretty well respected psychologist, and he called me autistic way back in '09. Turns out he's been calling people autistic for decades.
So maybe it's not so edgy and new.
brickmaster32000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was he saying that to people who actually showed signs of autism? I am not trying to say autism isn't a thing. What is being pointed out is people love to use these terms as generic insults. Not claiming it is edgy or new, in fact as /u/tirrt was pointing on this has been going on for a long time.
lepusfelix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, considering it was my formal diagnosis.....
BorisBC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Locality makes an appearance too. Eg, in South Australia they're called Mindas after a disability support organisation there.
Seicair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About half of the college professors I've worked with have visible autistic symptoms. I don't entirely understand why it's used as an insult.
canyouhearme ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:12:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They tried it with "special" for "retarded". Guess how long it took for 'you're special' to take on another meaning.
TricksterPriestJace ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:44:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way to get kids to not use the term for mental deficiency as an insult is to have the term so horribly cumbersome that it doesn't roll off the tongue easily.
Then kids will just keep the far better old word exclusively for use as an insult.
Son_of_Kong ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:23:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They tried that with "mental retardation," but kids still managed to get "retard" out of it.
doctorocelot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:24:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We should get the Germans to come up with a word. That'd do the trick. Dehaffaspachpanerdeflackenmensh. Or some shit.
spyfox321 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now instead of retarded, we call them "Deutsch"
TricksterPriestJace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and now they call each other handicapped
TaylorS1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because "to retard", meaning to make slower, was already a word in English before then.
Galaxy_Ranger_Bob ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:51:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
George Carlin has an opinion on the over-complication of language:
sabakasabaka ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 21:05:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know that george carlin is god-king around here, but this is just bad. It was loosely called shell shock because no one had a clue what was happening and just assumed it was a temporary thing that you could get people to snap out of by yelling at them, but as time went on we were able to develop medical terminology as we studied, more accurately diagnosed and treated the problem. If you had "shell shock" then you were not sympathized with as much as someone with PTSD now.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:22:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, this is a nonsense comparison. The idea that veterans with PTSD are receiving worse treatment than those coming back from World War I with "shell shock" is completely bizarre. We're also recognising now that PTSD results not just from combat stress but all types of traumatic stress, so changing the name to reflect that only makes sense. "Shell shock" excludes, for example, rape victims.
That's not to say that veterans are getting the treatment that they need or that things shouldn't be much better, broadly, in terms of mental health treatment, but they have certainly improved since the 1920s. It's also worth noting that a lot of the terms people rail against as euphemisms are the preferred terms of the people affected by the condition in question, and I personally feel that should be paramount.
Jack_Vermicelli ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 21:36:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Catering to feelings over direct, factual language should be paramount?
doctorocelot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:28:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shell shock isn't a direct factual term though so that's a pretty silly thing to say
Jack_Vermicelli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Specifi example notwithstanding, we were talking about the general trend toward euphemism and clinicalization, and the repeated distancing from terms that were well understood.
sabakasabaka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:38:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but euphemisms and clinicalized terms are often completely different, so I don't understand what you're saying.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:40:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, it's not that hard to do both. Listening to people about how they would prefer their condition to be described isn't just compassionate, it also provides some insight into how the condition affects them, which helps in describing the condition accurately.
Also, "shell shock" is not factual. As I have said already, it excludes a huge chunk of sufferers with PTSD including soldiers whose condition is more complicated than simply having been "shocked" by "shells" in battle.
peekaayfire ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:34:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PTSD is not sympathized with whatsoever. People who complain about PTSD are called complainers, fakers, pussies and a whole host of disparaging labels
sabakasabaka ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:17:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree that we're not close to societal-wide acceptance of PTSD, but it's not because we stopped saying "shell shock" though.
fidgetsatbonfire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it is actually sympathized with a great deal.
The problem is certain people started claiming that anything negative toward them 'triggered' them. Then the term got meme'd into the ground.
Angsty_Potatos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soldiers with shell shock in WWI were shot by firing squad for cowardice in so many cases... That doesn't happen to folks with ptsd...
rustybeancake ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:01:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word 'mongoloid' used to be a name for people with Down's Syndrome. This got shortened to the insult 'mongo' and so was dropped as a politely usable term.
Similarly, 'spastic' used to be a term for someone with cerebral palsy, and then became an insult.
peekaayfire ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:36:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never knew where 'mong' came from and I used it for years to just mean like dumb person after someone said something especially daft.
turns out its a double whammy slur against mentally retarded people as well as Mongols
kamon123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which originally came from racial classifications. Mongoloid refered to people of asian descent, negroid for african and caucasoid for caucasian
QuietSci ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:08:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I work in the field of IDD (Intelectual and Developmental Disabilities) and the proper term now is just disabled. But you have to use it in the right context, using what's called "People First" language. So you would say that someone was an "person with a disability" not a "disabled person." They are really pushing this to hopefully remove the slow slide into slurs and insults.
peekaayfire ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:37:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately I've talked to loads of aspies who dont really care for people first language so I'm conflicted because I try to practice person first language but have conflicted messaging from the people I'm trying to advocate for
PanicPixie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:01:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are there any who hate the term "aspie?" I know I wouldn't want to be called that, but my diagnosis was questionable* so I am not sure if I am "allowed" to have an opinion.
*I was actually diagnosed with AS in high school, but I believe my mom convinced my doctor of it by cherry-picking symptoms that sounded like me without fully understanding the condition. I have had doctors say I do and other say I don't. Personally I don't think I do, and that the AS-like behaviors actually stem from a combination of OCD and social anxiety.
peekaayfire ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:05:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably. But theyre probably not diagnosed with aspergers. For the most part its about tone and context, and typically its a self ascribed term. I have some aspie friends who use it as their preferred "label", and I've never had any of them tell me not to use it. In normal verbal speech I dont use the term as much, but its a tonal word and if you use it with respect it is perfectly acceptable.
edit: for example, they appreciate the sort of natural sound of "aspie friend" versus the sterile and somewhat rigid "friend who has Aspergers"
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd tell people to say autistic friend, if my ASD was relevant to the introduction. Aspergers is outdated anyway.
HardlightCereal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Autist here. If a buddhist is a person who practices buddhism, and a racist is guilty of racism, why can't my autism make me an autist?
I even prefer 'sperg' to 'aspie', because it's not a cute disorder and I'm not a cute person. That cute word sounds stupid.
And people first langauge is bullshit.
QuietSci ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose I also have a different view because I work with the very low functioning end of the spectrum both with autism and downs. Most of my clients really can't advocate for themselves in that way, or for most of them even really understand the difference. That being said, I could see the ASD community embracing it much like the Deaf community does. We'll see I suppose.
peekaayfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, if we look at my direct care population its largely an intersect of children with enough function to come to summer camp (with extra resources devoted to them), and also the capital to afford camp. We could only provide two weeks free camp for families in need, while that sounds nice camp is 10 weeks long..so.
But yeah, most of my exposure came with higher functioning kids. Some were still low functioning, but not in terms of considering the wide range of the spectrum. I feel like you probably understand what Im saying, its just hard to type up.
P0sitive_Outlook ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:07:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used the term 'retards' to refer to a bunch of guys who were being mean to a guy with special needs. For me, 'retard' is someone who's perfectly capable of acting appropriately but doesn't, intentionally.
My Canadian friend gave me an earful for it.
I think 'retard' is on it's way out, and that's fine. It's been surpassed by more proper terms.
notepad20 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:37:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spastic is a good one.
They were helped by the 'spastic society' in australia. To get over the negative connectation of the name, the society changed its lable to 'SCOPE'
Now the spatic kids are reffered to as 'scopies'
pacificmint ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:23:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Owww... you're not supposed to call it that anymore.
The preferred term now is 'alternate expression escalation'.
bboymixer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that is why there is this new push in education to make the term for students with intellectual disabilities not fun to say. Our current term for these students is "exceptional learner."
Now that's just a shit insult through and through, no way that'll catch on.
Terry_Pie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in South Australia we have an organisation called Minda which provides support/services etc to people with intellectual disability. Growing up, calling someone a "minda" was the equivalent of "retard".
Angsty_Potatos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:09:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a similar org called "Jerry's Kids". I was on a bar's weekly shuffle board league years back and when you wiffed on a shot we'd all chorus "aw. Jerrys kids" meaning you were too special to make your shot right
doctorocelot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the spectrum is gonna become the next one. Calling it now.
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen it used.
takatori ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never liked the term "retard" since it only implies slowness when in fact they'll never actually catch up.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is why attempting to police language through political correctness is pointless
being unusually dumb is a bad thing --- you have less social status, you are less capable, you're less desirable --- humans are never going to get around that by thinking nice thoughts, it's built into our basic nature
we can rotate the words all we want, but it'll never be disassociated from it's meaning; the word for 'retard' is always going to be an insult, no matter how it's spelled
tirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Totally agree. The more the terms attempt to run away, the more they reinforce the point. People are always going to insult each other by making comparisons to undesirables, and it's never going to be desirable to be mentally impaired or whatever else they start calling it.
You can end the use of something like "gay" as a slur with a change in the society such that gayness is not seen as a negative, and this is part of why I find it so strange to hear the rise of "autistic" at the same time as a better understanding of ASD comes about, but it's never going to be not negative to be less capable of thinking than others, and that's never not going to be an offensive comparison.
whalemingo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:37:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โTimmy, I donโt like that game. Itโs cognitively delayed.โ
It doesnโt have the same ring to it, but as someone who works with that population, I canโt wait for โthe R-wordโ to finally go away.
try_____another ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โSpecialโ seems to be used that way, although only in context.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I too read the older version of that Wikipedia article before they removed that information.
roastbeeftacohat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not everything gets on the euphamism treadmill. African american and first nations people are terms that have mostly died in favor of just saying black or native. Indian is still a slur.
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indian is the dumbest thing ever. Nobody could just accept the fact that Columbus didn't reach india.
CirkuitBreaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's sad to say, but "autistic" is the newest insult used by middle schoolers. And 4channers too.
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like 4chan gets a pass. Like how black people can say the N word.
valiantfreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing seems to happen with references to race.
Offensive terms like the N-word get replaced with words which are more descriptive and less inflammatory. Then the new words get used as slurs and are then also offensive.
eg: 'Coloured people' seems to be an offensive term these days but 'People of colour' is ok.
RimmyDownunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/standupshots/comments/6o1nn7/neat/
DisfunkyMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've already heard kids use the term "aspie" as an insult. "Are you on the spectrum?" as well. It doesn't matter what we do -- every clinical term will become slang if it's catchy enough.
VictorWardJohnson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donkey brained
winndixie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its not mentally impaired, thats too long. Now its "autistic" beng thrown around. Play some league.
tirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
current โ next.
winndixie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(current โ next) โ always_true.
The suggestion here for the not mentally impaired is that autistic has yet to become mainstream, and will become mainstream till it does out.
tirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're trying to claim that current and next are the same thing? Sure, if you want to completely make up your own language, you can declare that the new thing is the current thing is the next thing and something else can't be the next thing because next no longer has meaning. Go wild.
winndixie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never said current trend was "mentally impaired". In fact, I was against that it will ever become a trend. Current trend is and will be "autistic" for a long time, much like yourself. Again, l2r.
tirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that's how you read, then I'm no longer surprised you misuse words when you write as well.
winndixie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If this is how you interpret, I am not surprised at all you are out of touch of what is current.
winndixie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(current โ next) does not disprove statement referred to.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fuck you you mental impaired hunk of shit, go suck a xanyax you depressed, Cretan
tirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's so awful about being from Crete? It's a lovely island.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't actually know I just know Winchester from MASH calls Hawkeye that a lot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh I've been using Cretan as an insult for a while now, thanks .
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wanted to give gold for this but PayPal takes a week to get funds from my account. this is golden
Face_Roll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Terms that sound polite or use euphemisms are already insults, like "are you special?" or "did you forget your medication?" or even just calling someone "psychotic".
As long as there is a stigma around mental illness, whatever terms we choose, no matter how sanitized, will become insults.
Atheist101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like how autistic and autism has become a slur as well. We'll soon need to find a new word to describe a medical disability lol
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah it's cool. Unless we get our own N word that only we can say. Then I'm 100% on board.
thtgyovrthr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the irony being that "retard" is possibly the closest in denotation to its object. it's what happens when we address the letter of the law and neglect the spirit of the law. or term, i guess.
Jellodyne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That will be a relief because we really need a term to describe people with no developmental disabilities and yet still incredibly stupid.
tirrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you mean "stupid"?
Jellodyne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but stupiderer.
2th323 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:19:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nimrod
atimholt ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:33:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That came from Bugs Bunny calling Elmer Fudd โNimrodโ in mockery. Nimrod was a great hunter mentioned in the Bible.
2th323 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:33:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep! Love that one.
MyFirstOtherAccount ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 18:52:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly what happened to "retard." I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years the term "mentally disabled" became a "slur".
Planetsareround ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:51:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intellectually disabled is the newest pc term, and it is almost always initialized, even when spoken.
maneo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:59:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word disabled will definitely be on its way out by next decade
B_J_Bear ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:13:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be replaced with the ultra-PC moniker 'differently-abled'.
FaxCelestis ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:54:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that one I can hear being steeped in a tone of derision and slung around a schoolyard.
"Ohhh it's ok you missed the football Braxxtynn, you're 'differently-abled'."
Sloth_Senpai ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:04:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My school had to ban that word almost the day it was created because people just used that in a sarcastic tone over calling people retarded(which got you detention).
FaxCelestis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:05:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Braxxtynn is a pretty fuckin dumb name, but banning it seems a little extreme.
Sloth_Senpai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair Ole Braxxy was a differently-abled douche.
peekaayfire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:37:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diffability. That was already attempted
washie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:18:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol seriously? 'Cause saying "disability" with a lisp is sure to stop the taunting!
CutterJohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swear I remember george carlin mocking 'differently abled' 20 years ago.
PanicPixie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard "special" (implying "special needs" or "special education") used as an insult.
Planetsareround ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely agree.
GachiGachiFireBall ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:18:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mentally disabled is kinda common as an insult
WarAndGeese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like calling someone mental
MyFirstOtherAccount ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:12:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, I'm just waiting for when it's no longer ok to call someone which a handicap "mentally disabled" because it's "offensive".
CallTheKiteman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:43:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest I think it's weird when people freak out when you say someone is retarded. They are literally retarded. It's a medical term.
That being said, I understand that it now has negative connotations so I don't make a habit of calling retarded people retarded.
G8kpr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:38:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old censusโ also have columns that will be for you to check off โidiotโ. Meaning โmentally handicappedโ
People with mental disabilities always seem to have to reinvent the term for them.
Turn of the century, idiot, moron, imbecile etc. were used at different times.
60s and 70s we had โretardedโ
80s we had mentally handicapped
90s we had mentally challenged
2000s we have โspecial needsโ
I am sure by 2025 we will have yet another term.
peekaayfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I looked it up, and it was actually the term โidioticโ
At the top of this census from 1880 you have columns for โblindโ, โdeaf and dumbโ, โidioticโ, โmaimed, cripples, bedriddled, or otherwise disabledโ
Also for many years they had columns for โcan readโ and โcan writeโ and a large percent of the population was illiterate
brazilliandanny ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:54:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's retarded
4DimensionalToilet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:27:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about โdonkey-brainedโ?
PoleTree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry Froggy, I'll keep you moist!
PeterLemonjellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, ya unzipped me, doc! Ya unzipped me!
aerospacemonkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:15:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of which were superseded by "retard", after they became slurs, which was superseded by "special education", or sped for a short time, then autistic, and now intellectually disabled.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:14:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "cretin" came from French and literally meant 'Christian'. Apparently it was used as a euphemism for people with deformities as a reminder that people with deformities are still people and not monsters or demons. But obviously it became, you know, an insult.
GlideStrife ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm currently completing a Bachelor of Education in a Canadian university, and we've started to phase out the term "special needs." Referring to someone as "special," "special needs," or a "sped" has become a widely used insult, so it's going the way of the words before it. The new term were using is "exceptional," and we're declaring students to have "exceptionalities."
So in 5-8 years time, expect "exceptional" to be an insult while the school board scrambles for a new, inclusive, un-insulting term to use.
peekaayfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We briefly phased out disability for diffability (differing ability)
LemonJongie23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See this is why people need to stop being triggered when someone says retarded. If you're not referring to a disabled person then it's literally the same as using those other words
UnknownStory ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:33:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Well call me Dr. Red because I'm diagnosing you all as morons."
~Something I'm sure Red Forman would say
Claxamazoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US, we've replaced all those terms with a synonymous "Presidential".
Oh..how far we've fallen...
ParticleCannon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:26:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of Bugs Bunny (though more often "maroon".) Anyways, calling someone after the biblical hunter Nimrod would have been a compliment if not for Bugs.
BigDamnHead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb didn't mean mentally disabled exactly. It meant someone who could not speak, for whatever reason.
filbert13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now retarded is in the category and I bet by the time I'm 50 saying someone is autistic will be offensive.
washie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:19:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It already is
filbert13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it isn't. Sure calling someone autistic who isn't is offensive. But so is calling someone anything they are not.
I'm saying in 20-30 years I bet you medically can't call someone autistic. Just as you would never hear a doctor call someone retarded, a moron, or idiot.
Son_of_Kong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is only true of one of those words. "Dumb" used to mean "mute," and "idiot" has been used to refer to ignorant people since antiquity. It comes from an Ancient Greek term for someone who wasn't qualified for public office.
WarAndGeese ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought an idiot ws someone who didn't pay attention to or get involved in their local politics. Basically ignoring democracy.
Son_of_Kong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I've looked up a few etymologies and they tend to conflict on whether it referred to someone who was unqualified or just chose not to participate.
It probably implied both, as someone who avoided politics in general would be considered unqualified for office.
peekaayfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idiot is/was an IQ definition, so is/was moron
Son_of_Kong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but with "idiot" they just reappropriated a word that had already has a broader meaning for thousands of years.
AimingWineSnailz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean idiot comes from Greek and its use has a much bigger history than that.
SunnyLego ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was researching the history of epilepsy medication, and found out their used to be a home called "Asylum for the Epileptic and Feebleminded."
Here in Aus also, the Cerebal Palsy society used to be called "The Spastic Society."
theultimatehero2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More precisely, these terms came from the eugenics movements in early 20th century North America. Few people realize how prevalent eugenics was especially in the western United States and Canada.
Francis Galton proposed the idea in the late 1800s that if we are able to selectively breed livestock and plants we should be able to selectively breed humans in order to strengthen the race and do away with the "feeble-minded" (the idiots, morons, retards, etc). Galton posed the idea that the human species was "trending toward the mean" and essentially degenerating. This movement gained significant popularity as science was becoming mainstream during the 1920s and 30s. This also coincided with the depression and tough times in the west which saw people begin questioning the quality of the people around them. Mass immigration into North America bread further urgency to this cause as Americans considered the immigrants inferior, but race wasn't necessarily the main concern with eugenics.
Eventually government sponsored movements in the 1930s lead to the legalization of sterilization of the feeble-minded in many states/provinces (for example British Columbia in 1933, Canada wide in 1937) The classification of people using the Alfred Binet IQ test became standard to classify people as being worthy of conceiving children or not. Binet had never intended this use for his test and protested against it to no avail.
Eugenicists like Henry H Goddard promoted the concept of separating out deaf, dumb and blind kids and putting them into their own institutions, away from the general public. His book 'The Kallikaks' reveals the way genetics was portrayed at the time. In the book a man of pure, healthy, intelligent lineage with a wife/kids has a child with a "feeble-minded" prostitute, starting a branch of degenerate decedents that are considered to be a scourge on the race. The story was meant to educate people on the decent of human genes if we aren't able to contain the epidemic of feeble-mindedness.
Frightening, yet interesting stuff. I whipped this up in a few minutes while I should be studying, if you want more details on this I suggest you look up Galton, Goddard and the Eugenics movement. Thousands of people Less than 100 years ago were sterilized because a select few people were given the power to decide they were unworthy of having children.
Theres a really interesting documentary about a woman from Alberta, Canada that was sterilized. Honestly hurts to watch.
stygger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what did Republicans and Democrats call each other before those terms weere released to the public?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Retarded is still the official name for someone with an IQ under 40. (People with an IQ of 40 are as rare as people with an IQ of 160, so they're like an inverse Einstein)
3720to1_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โMoronโ was coined in a hospital in my hometown (in NJ). Something Iโll never forget.
redfoot62 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I admit an old movie made me laugh really hard during a scene where a doctor closes a door, looks at two parents, and says sadly and with a straight face,
"Unfortunately...your son's an idiot."
Mother bursts out crying, "OH NO!"
Father, "Is there anything we can do?"
Doctor shakes his head in the negative.
Yes the kid was mentally disabled, and no, sadly I don't remember the movie's name. Just that it was black and white and had no famous actors I recognize.
charonco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Along these same lines, "Nimrod" was originally a mighty hunter from the Bible. It became synonymous with idiot when Bugs Bunny used it sarcastically to refer to Elmer Fudd.
TheShayminex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And retarded
6chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just the way "retard" will be someday.
eyeGunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also maniac.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's only a matter of time before 'retard' stops being an insensitive thing to say and back to being a funny word you'd call your friends.
Obscu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also: "cretin", which referred specifically to someone with cretinism which is developmental problems associated with a particular thyroid disfunction.
dreamwinder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had always been told idiot came from a greek word for someone who unwisely chose not to vote. Or is that just a myth?
puq123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now "Retard"
peekaayfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well "retard" has never been a medical term.
The term is "mental retardation" or "mentally retarded", when its not qualified with the subject 'mental' its hard to know whats being retarded (slowed down), so using 'retard' on its own is actually just a regular old insult.
Note the difference:
"He's a retard"
"He is mentally retarded"
They are leagues different
phrates ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There were some pretty humorous (in the modern context) facilities for such people in my area, like the Ohio Asylum for the Education of Idiotic and Imbecile Youth.
stumblinghunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought idiot was from idiota, someone in ancient Rome that didn't vote
gremalkinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same when "retarded" became an insult when it used to be a medical term. Now I think it's "mentally challeneged" which I'm sure will graduate to an insult and we'll have to get a new medical term.
hsilman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure "idiot" referred to someone with seizures, not having to do with a mental disability. Unless Dostoevsky was yanking my chain.
peekaayfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like you answered your own question lol
hsilman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems you are correct! It was an ironic meaning, as the main character was seen as simple. His seizure disorder was a part of it, but not the reason he was called "an idiot" like I thought.
arthuresque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All these terms were around well before they were codified medically so to say they were exclusively medical terms is misleading and inaccurate.
peekaayfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or its just an inception of the OP and my point still stands as-is
TasteTheRaimbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
History keeps doing this. Retardation or retarded used to be medical. Special-needs isnโt used much anymore. Handicapped or handi is reaching slur-level.
mrsniperrifle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Add Spastic (epilepsy) and mongoloid (Down Syndrome) to that list as well.
coolkid1717 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They go through a phase. First they're a medical term. Then everybody uses them. Through time they gain a negative connotation. So then a new medical term is made. Eventually everybody starts to use it. Then it gains a negative connotation. Rinse and repeat.
ShikiRyumaho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
German word for deaf (doof) just means dumb these days.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lame used to mean someone who couldn't walk
BeeCDN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scope was still called The Spastic Society when I was a child! Weird to think how far we've moved away from the original meanings of these words; I feel strange even typing the word 'spastic' now.
JFeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't retarded a medical term not that long ago?
Minerva89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone posted a TIL some time ago about how there were different grades to these (and imbecile) too. There's no insult that's better than calling someone a third grade imbecile.
Solo_is_my_copliot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going back further, in ancient Greece, an idiot was someone who did not exercise their duty to vote in elections. I still use it that way myself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Narcissist also gets thrown around like itโs nothing when itโs a real term for a real mental disorder
anarchocynicalist1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shut up idiot
archiminos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with retard and spastic (there was a charity called the Spastics Society). And it looks like autist might be going the same direction these days.
BigSmashy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, "Dumbfound" just made a lot more sense all of a sudden.
major84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still are..... just look at the 3 eldest drumpf children.
tympano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My high school psychology teacher used to say that these were medical terms until three amateur psychologists became a part of the popular zeitgeist: Larry, Curly and Moe.
chigonzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/rv3-d98v9zc
Life_outside_PoE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if in 50 years time people will think that being called a fuckhead had something to do with using your head to have sex.
Flater420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This move from "refined" to "coarse" usage happens with many words over time.
English and Dutch have diverged on this for the word "wife".
In Dutch, "wijf" was perfectly okay to refer to your female spouse some 100 odd years ago. It was used by the upper class. But as the lower class started using it, the word fell from grace and today is mostly used as an insult (it's very similar to "woman" in e.g. "get me a beer, woman")
Funnily enough, what word do we use for a female spouse now? Vrouw. Which literally means "woman". In Dutch, "vrouw" is both the opposite of "man" and "husband".
So in Dutch, "woman" is the correct way to refer to a wife, and "wife" is an insult to a woman.
Even though 100 years ago, you could've used either without any offense being taken in either language.
super_aardvark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb meant mute (which is not necessarily a mental disability). Hence, "deaf and dumb" means the person can't hear or speak.
lasagnaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:49 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's where the term dumbwaiter came from. People used to be worried about waiters hearing secrets and spreading gossip, so instead they devised this little elevator contraption thingy that could bring your food without spying on you. A mute waiter, so to speak.
sigilvii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What a maroon, what an ignoranimus!"
Also, 'Looney Tunes' created a new definition for the word nimrod, which was originally the name for a mythological hunter. Bugs Bunny was being ironic by calling Elmer Fudd "Nimrod".
bwana22 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I choose not to use them as some people get offended by on a personal level and there are lots of alternatives to use instead.
I mean dumb means mute, doesn't even refer to intelligence.
E: are ppl getting angry over my own personal choice to not use ableist terms haha
Mkjcaylor ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 22:48:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are many terms English uses that come from falconry.
Under your thumb/under your little pinky: refers to when a falconer holds a bird on the fist, tucking the jesses (dangling strips of leather connected to the birds feet) under their thumb, or wrapped around their pinky
Hoodwinked: refers to using a leather hood to cover a hawk's eyes
Rouse: refers to when a bird shakes and fluffs its feathers. Shakespeare gave it the meaning of "waking up"
Fed up: refers to a falconry bird being completely full, and too full to hunt with
Haggard: a wild adult hawk, used by Shakespeare to refer to women
Bate (from "bated breath"): the term used to describe when a bird attempts to fly off the fist and the falconer holds it back. EDIT: Bated breath may actually come from "abate" meaning "to restrain" and not the falconry term
Booze: from the falconry term "bouse" referring to a bird that has drunk too much water to hunt with
scythefalcon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:19:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt forget โold codgerโ which comes from โcadgerโ, someone whose job was to carry the birds around for the falconer. Cadgering was usually reserved for younger apprentice falconers. Accordingly, an old cadger was a disparaging term for someone who was simple minded and unable to graduate past this fairly novice position
Wierd657 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:25:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Booze referring to alcohol can also be from E.C. Booze, who handed out bottles of whiskey during Lincoln's presidential campaign in the shape of log cabins, connecting Lincoln to the "log cabin, humble beginnings" thing.
super_aardvark ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:30:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'bated breath is short for "abated breath" i.e. a breath you don't let out, because you're holding your breath. When you hold the hawk back you're abating it in the same sense -- the meaning doesn't rely on the other phrase.
Mkjcaylor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:10:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I looked up Shakespeare terms and saw what you say here referenced. Merriam-Webster agrees with you.
However, falconers really want this term! Here is another source attributing both "bated" and "booze" to falconry.
super_aardvark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, okay... you can have it ;)
TBH for some reason I thought you were saying that "bated breath" came first, and I was pointing out that the falconry term is probably short for "abate" on its own and not directly from "bated breath". Now that I've had some sleep I see I got your meaning backwards. The terms could still be independent shortenings of "abate" but I could also believe Shakespeare got the term from Falconry.
LahDeeDah7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This bated breath one is my favorite in this whole topic so far.
SenpaiBeardSama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of birds would try and escape. Which do you think is the best though. I'd say pigeons. They're the rats of the bird Kingdom. I would say they're masters of trying to escape. Pigeons are master baters.
JustABored ยท 5932 points ยท Posted at 16:50:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shotgun
Like in a car, "I call Shotgun"
That dates back to the horse drawn (car)riages and the driver controlling the horse would have a person with a shotgun defending and or shooting anything trying to get on the cart
skelebone ยท 7868 points ยท Posted at 18:20:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my car, passengers call "Shogun" and spend the ride protecting from barbarian invasion and quelling peasant uprisings.
Kijafa ยท 962 points ยท Posted at 19:17:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do the other passengers then spend the entire ride trying to find justification to kill the person in the front seat and replace them with one of their kids?
[deleted] ยท 315 points ยท Posted at 20:38:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only as plan B in case they can't arrange an alliance through marriage.
FrancrieMancrie ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:22:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if they do, make sure that that dynasty has absolutely no ties to other clans. Oda Nobunaga knows this stuff.
fukitol- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the passenger puts the wrong thing on the radio.
walterpeck1 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:18:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they should
๐ตHire a Samurai๐ต
pruwyben ยท 611 points ยท Posted at 19:21:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should hire a samurai.
SilverScimitar ยท 645 points ยท Posted at 20:37:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*Not everyone hired samurai. Poor people who could not afford to hire samurai did not hire samurai.
[deleted] ยท 186 points ยท Posted at 21:33:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ถHow 'bout I do... anyway?๐ถ
MacabreCurve ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 22:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vietnam unconquered itself, Korea just became itself and Japan is so addicted to art the military might have to take over the government....
Dubalubawubwub ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 04:02:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
China is whooooole againnnnn....
... then it broooooke againnnnn...
MacabreCurve ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 05:36:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...Nice going, Genghis...I bet that will last a long TIME...
TurboTristan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:42:24 on May 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Some of the Islamic Turks were unneffected by the Mongol invasions because they were busy invading India.
Alfredo412 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:54:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/accidentalbillwurtz
SpongebobNutella ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:44:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/intentionalbillwurtz
Razgriz2118 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 02:14:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could make a religion out of this!
beywiz ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:53:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, don't
ShotgunCreeper ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:20:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/unexpectedbillwurtz
plasmaspaz37 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:59:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ตJESUUUUS๐ต
two-number-nines ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:57:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How am I supposed to protect my shit? From criminals?
patrikr ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 21:29:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ต Now there's more art ๐ต
Omadon1138 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:41:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about sunrise land...
Milo359 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:52:11 on February 14, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
And sexytimes
meiyoumayo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:52:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you call us something other than dipshit?
NarcolepticLemon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:34:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is something everybody needs to survive
JediGuyB ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:10:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just promise them all the rice they can eat. Might be able to get at least 7 samurai.
fd1Jeff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get hungry samurai. Even bears come out of the woods when they are hungry.
DucksGoQuackQuack ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:44:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely not everyone was kung fu fighting
Zanzabushino ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:51:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But...a shotgun is much more effective. And probably cheaper in the long run.
joegekko ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 20:02:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Samurai only get paid thrice yearly- once each in the spring, summer, and winter.
With any luck, he'll get killed before you have to pay him.
The_OtherHalf ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:10:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's like job security reversed. Employer security?
KeybladeSpirit ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:25:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"How long can I expect to work for you?"
"Well if I'm lucky, the rest of your life!"
ZeroLAN ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:24:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call Shogun!
DaSaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, if you're powerful, you can just borrow his pay from him, and then pay him back when you feel like it.
Lyndis_Caelin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:23:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until Nobunaga rides in with a unit of riflemen trained in a serial formation to be effectively a machine gun~
LabyrinthConvention ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
from now on i'm calling 'smaurai'
TOMdMAK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:31:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Batman?
trreeves ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Suzuki Samurai would make a terrible taxi.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just buy a bow?
vorin ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:51:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"How about Sunrise Land?"
SamuraiRafiki ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:17:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are you going to protect your stuff from criminals?
MattieShoes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:27:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you call them Anjin?
MaceOfBass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anjin-san
compwiz1202 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:52:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slap on that gaudy helm and pauldrons!
balne ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:54:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
peasants are so uppity! should just kill them!
DarthGore ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:34:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice. In my cars they call Chewbacca. They navigate the GPS, while I, Han Solo, pilot.
formlex7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
me and my friends had a similar joke in HS but extended to the whole japanese feudal system. Naturally driver was also emperor, back were samurai and back middle was merchant class
Ltwilk2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As in they control the music?
Obscu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy Shoguns
K4R1MM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my friends call it "Chewie". Because we're all hairy beasts and roar incomprehensibly.
ParagonExample ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my car, passengers call "shagging" and spend the ride, well...
uchihajoeI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my car, passengers call "Logan" and... well... I rather not get into the details..
evilpuke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Mongolians
skelebone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, you know that Mongolia and Japan don't touch, right?
evilpuke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying Mongolians canโt swim.
Dragoon_Pantaloons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird, that used to be the exact rule for my car ages ago.
roastbeeftacohat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to my knowledge japan faced fairly few barbarian invasions, It's one of the reasons they had such a devil of a time invading Korea. Once they landed they had the advantage, but the Korean navy was quite adept at beating them at sea; creating logistical problems. Also the greatest navel commander in the history of the world also didn't help.
Only invasion I'm familiar with was the mongols, which were defeated by the weather.
McBlemmen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you get 2 kids one can call shogun and the other can call emperor. And so the great civil war of 4:30 will begin
Willmono7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you must live in Hull, my condolences
Arthur___Dent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just finished watching the Extra History summary of the Sengoku Jidai (the famous period in Japan), so if anyone wants to learn more about quelling peasant uprisings and peasant shoguns, you should watch it too.
mickeymouse4348 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've needed a reason to buy one of these for a while
Thank you for giving me a reason. The next person to call shotgun is getting handed this to defend us on our journey
Freakychee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was their success rate?
Headycrunchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A shotgun Shogun
Eternity_Incarnate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate it when I have to quell peasant uprisings.
JefftheBaptist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they do a bad job, demand they commit seppuku.
BigFatTomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a Mongolian beef?
meiyoumayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do they let the driver wear very nice clothes and have very nice things, but really, the Shogun is in charge?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird.
Sometimes when I have more than one friend riding with me, generally one calls "shotgun!"
Not long after, another shoves him out of the way, shouts "Rosa Parks!!" Then gets in the front seat and refuses to move.
Rahgahnah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn Mongolians messing with your shitty car.
deathschemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in my car, which doesn't exist, passengers call "Kirisute Gomen", and spend the ride TAKING THEIR FUCKING HEADS
imhoots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anjin-san!
Cuchullion ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 17:44:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean people don't do this anymore?
That... explains why that cop was so upset...
flyingfences ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dunno where you are, but my state's laws require me to get out of the car before I can load the shotgun.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, you live in a shit state.
flyingfences ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Overall it's pretty good - that's one of the very few gripes I have with the gun laws.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try living in MA.
Massholes is a generally good term for so many of the people who live and get elected here.
flyingfences ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would prefer not to. We're quite aware of you Massholes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ค๐คฃ
stuwoo ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:13:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know exactly how true this is but apparently the reason we drive on the left in the UK, is because, back in old horse days, you would then have people coming towards you on your right side which is also the sword arm. Allowing you to fend off attacks from strangers.
PRobinson87 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:24:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in regards to the truthiness of my anecdote, but; In the US we drive on the right because the person riding shotgun sat on the right (most people are right-handed) and it's easier to aim to the left than the right when firing.
Handy_Dandy_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:56:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always hear that I shouldnโt believe everything on the internet but I really wanna believe this.
stuwoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:46:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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meiyoumayo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:53:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I want to sit in the back seat behind the shotgun seat, I yell "Cobain".
JustABored ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ya know what, im gonna have to use this someday
hawkeyecs ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 18:29:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Chicago, still relevant...
tylenol1234 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read air-quality report that the atmosphere in Chicago is 30% bullets.
jseego ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:30:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chicago is actually 28th in the US in violent crime per capita, and 6th in murders, with most of those being clustered in particular gang-infested areas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
gyrorobo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:01:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who lives inbetween the ol' crime trifecta of Detroit, Flint, and Pontiac.. I have to laugh everytime brings up the crime in their parts of the US. Detroit is such a shithole everytime I have to go down there, sorry anyone who lives down there... but I mean you already know how trash it is.
Whenever I go down there to see something cool like DIA or w/e, the worst part of the trip is always just 'existing' in Detroit when having to do it.
TwatsThat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:08:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever anyone brings up how terrible Detroit is it always makes me think of RoboCop. The original movie was made when the city wasn't so bad but portrayed it in the near future as the most violent shit hole you'd ever see and then the 2014 remake was made when Detroit in real life was nearly as bad as it is in the original movie but they depict it as a clean and advanced city.
gyrorobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha funny how that works! Deus Ex:HR also takes place in Detroit and suffers from a lot of societal issues as well.
It seems like sci-fi media portrays Detroit pretty accurately.
mugdays ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:54:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: In 1992, East Palo Alto had a murder rate of 172.7 - nearly three times higher than the highest murder rate on that list (St. Louis).
Shows how far we've come.
JustABored ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ehh, the number varies from place to place, i think the current estimates are 20 with a chance of mugging
PM_ME_YOUR__THIGHS ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:32:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait I still do this. How else are we supposed to get through rush hour traffic?
mugdays ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:51:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is folk etymology. Nobody really knows where calling "shotgun" comes from
dcunited456 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:23:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my car you can also yell "Kurt Cobain". It's the seat behind shotgun.
white_butterfly1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad I'm not the only one!
Th3R00ST3R ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you just blow my mind that Car came from the word Carriage? Holy shit.
EDIT
Never mind, you're not right at all.
JustABored ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh well, 50% is what i usually get with trivia
Sven2774 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:07:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve, in bad taste, called the seat behind shotgun the โKurt cobainโ seat
Spazmoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:00:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was because a shotgun usually has two barrells so driver and passenger were like the two cartridges.
TIL I'm dumb
PATRIOTSRADIOSIGNALS ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:23:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most shotguns do not have two barrels, only some break-actions.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:22:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but I think when the phrase first became popular, side-by-side break-action shotguns were the norm. Over-under and pump-action shotguns are a more recent development.
PATRIOTSRADIOSIGNALS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An over-under shotgun does have 2 barrels and they've been around about as long as the side-by-each.
BTFoundation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying that you don't have your passenger armed and ready?
cheribom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My โ90s teenage brain first assumed it had to do with drive-bys.
pecan_sandies90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, my grandpa's truck always had a shotgun sitting in the shotgun seat
z3dster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
actually this is most likely something from later westerns and not something said during the actual time of stagecoaches
ThorTheMastiff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.shotgunrules.com
shea_the_great ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
anyone else shorten this one to calling "shotty?"
saint_aura ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly in the context of avoiding something, eg โshotty not taking the bins out,โ โshotty not doing the dishes.โ
JustABored ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
playing shooters mainly. "Heyo, got my shotty over here" or "Wheres the shotty on this map?"
PintSizedPinata ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:54:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then you have Kurt Cobain which is the seat behind shotgun.
Taximan20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought shotgun was gunning a beer?
yepthatguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL there's a way to play "shotgun" in a car without needing an actual shotgun!
DonnaGail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! I didn't know this! So cool!
PotentialNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't know this. Now I sort of want to carry a fake shotgun and toss it onto the lap of whoever yells Shotgun and grabs the seat.
Easilycrazyhat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found this explanation in high school. Our English class was going over Westerns I believe and we were watching a bit of a western film with Clint Eastwood in it (can't remember exactly which one).
There was a bit in the scene we watched where Clint's character volunteers to"sit shotgun" to help another main character navigate to some place that had bandits or something along the way. As soon as he said that line, you could hear the whole class let out an audible, "Ooohhh". It was pretty funny.
sicmaggot21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homie must not live in the hood. We still using the literal term for shotgun.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The driver would be on the left because most people's dominant hand was the right, so the driver would have their right hand near the center of the carriage. The reins or the whip in right hand so he could command the left and right horses equally, and use his left hand to steady himself on the outside hand rail.
The passenger on the right would carry the shotgun, and being usually right handed, would shoulder the gun on his right and wouldn't be firing the weapon in the ear of the driver.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coach. Stage coach.
jaxrose9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i learned something new today
sum_gamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father was driving his unmarked police suburban to pick me and a few friends up from a show, when friend 1 called shotgun and slings the front passenger door open to a box sitting in the seat. My dad then jokingly states that the shotgun was under the furthest back seat. Friend 2 then shouts "box". Ever since, when someone hanging out with us calls shotgun, they are then instructed to sit in the back and the person who calls box gets front seat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still relevant in modern day 'murica
TangoMike22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still relevant these days. Person riding shotgun has the responsibility to spot cops. Protecting the driver from a ticket.
Mickface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Riding shotgun" never made sense to me until now. Thank you!
Hoeftybag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair the modern equivalent still exists the phrase has just been popularized.
Darkangel1979 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was walking out to the car with my three daughters and my youngest of the three (9) starts running to the passenger side and yells "gunshot!" ๐๐ We all knew what she meant and got a good laugh out of it. We even let her sit gunshot.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wow, calling shotgun must have been a lot more fun back then
LouispudpullerCK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually have ridden with a shotgun in the passenger seat. You do odd things when you're bored and live far from civilization.
Also, is "can shoot a groundhog while moving 30mph and hanging out the window of a dofge minivan" a marketable skill? If it is, I've found my career path.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those carriages also had a bit where you could strap a trunk full of your stuff.
DontOpenTilXmas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why the hell were people trying to get on a carriage if someone was just going to blow their head off?
TheBossMan5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told it came from the fact that police cruisers, (specifically LAPD in the 80s and 90s) seated their actual shotgun in that seat.
It's probably both, but I would argue that it's use among kids in america, is prob based more on the police visual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNA9wME0t5o
There's an example of how they used to keep it mounted there.
xsvfan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:06:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term was first used in 1919 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_shotgun
jdallen1222 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cue long list of "we still do/need to do this in our town" jokes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, for the kid-friendly version, "Window seat!"
Narzgul85 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You know what's the interesting fact is the fact that you thought that's interesting"
-Pigeon
[deleted] ยท 8213 points ยท Posted at 15:13:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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nonoyesyesyesyes ยท 2049 points ยท Posted at 15:45:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, "we're rolling" when recording video footage
bizitmap ยท 1474 points ยท Posted at 16:33:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it's counterpart, "cut." Absolutely still in use despite nothing to actually cut
Baconchicken42 ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 18:19:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ehh, i don't think that the lack of physical film necessarily makes "cut" obsolete
ot1smile ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 19:06:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what context imo. In the edit we routinely use it in ways that don't really make sense any more (the cutting room, the first cut etc)
PATRIOTSRADIOSIGNALS ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 19:14:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We no longer literally "cut" a filmstrip but we do figuratively cut segments out of the digital recording during editing. Cut sounds a lot better than "separate segments" so I think cutting room is still a valid term for the editing room.
ot1smile ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:35:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you're talking about removing sections it does have a kind of figurative logic but that's stretched further when it's used as a noun to refer to 'the cut', as in a particular version of the edit.
AnUnnamedSettler ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:10:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When someone looks at me and says that I have a nice hair cut, it is also a noun.
Cut, Copy, and Paste are used in editing many more things than just videos.
The context remains valid.
The_Quibbler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:31:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut is still what you'd call a transition between shots, either way. It's not a wipe or a dissolve, it's a hard stop.
littlecolt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:42:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I hate it when people say "cut the lines on" though...
EDIT: I meant "lights" but autocorrect decided otherwise.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:50:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey man, what do you want me to cut the lines on?"
"Just use this DVD case, so we can quickly stash it under the table if we have to".
Matti_Matti_Matti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that is showbiz.
corvusaraneae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, the cursor turns into a little razorblade for Premiere Pro's cut function.
The_Quibbler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or even rolling.
Piratian ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:57:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all films are filmed digitally these days. Most are, but I remember last year around this time someone did a movie on film and requested that theaters play it in a specific format.
Edit: it was hateful eight, and 2 years ago. Still in 70mm film
AetherealPassage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah quite a few directors still choose to shoot on actual film due to the quality it gives the image
SteveGuillerm ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 18:03:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Cut" still works. As in, "cut it out with that acting, we're not 'filming' right now."
asquaredninja ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:07:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The earliest citation I can find for the phrase "cut it out" is 1914, and the etymology is unclear. It is quite possible that the idiom is itself a reference to film making.
Naedlus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:15:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or audio recording.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:22:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filmmaking predates any form of audio recording that involves cutting anything. Audio was originally on little tubes, then on record disks.
Naedlus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true. Recording images on film-stock preceded work on magnetic wire recording by likely ten years, and it took until the early-mid 1900s for recording magnetically to film to advance technologically to the point of being feasible as a consumer product.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They had scissors before the dawn of filmmaking.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:40:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blooper "reel"
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:19:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even when they film on film they donโt cut the film when they say โcutโ. I think this was always a colloquialism. I donโt think it was ever rooted in a physical act.
andybader ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:24:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never understood that, though. You cut in the editing room. Nothing ever got "cut" on set.
JessRoyall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything gets cut on set. Cut the lights, Cut the camera, cut the baby and bring the dog in and lets shoot it.
andybader ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:56:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, I know, but in the spirit of the original post: I've never been aware of anything actually being cut (as opposed to rolling, speeding, etc.).
JessRoyall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:42 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true.
The_Quibbler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just another word for stop. Think their supply lines were cut or he cut me off mid-sentence.
GilZing ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:34:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, a large majority of the older film makers still use old school film.
dance_rattle_shake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a mind game though, how else would you describe the clipping of digital content? I think cut fits perfectly. You're digitally cutting digital data. Anything else like splice or trim isn't any better - there are no dedicated words for operating on digital content like that. Except maybe crop? But I bet that goes from before digital art too.
UmerHasIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crop comes from this picture cropping tool that's represented in the icon
http://www.thegoldenmean.com/images/technique/crop/crop_scale.gif
Sorry for terrible picture, on mobile and when I search for crop tool I can only find the Photoshop one. I remember it being called a cropping L if anyone can find a better pic
onlysquirrel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Use cut in news business too as in "cut the story" or, even worse, "kill the story."
upinthemiddle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You never "cut" film when you were shooting. That only happened in the edit so technically you were never cutting anything when someone said it.
yepthatguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This could explain why my computer stopped working whenever I tried editing the footage.
RickSlimes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And perhaps the "motion picture"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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bizitmap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:23:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not immediately. You would have to cut it up during editing though.
DontOpenTilXmas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You cut out everything including them saying "Cut" from the video.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:25:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling it "footage" is an anachronism when you are not saving measurable feet of anything. Footage is from how many feet long the film was. That carried over to videotape. But now you record mainly on to disks or solid state.
nonoyesyesyesyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow /r/todayilearned
drakeg4 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:51:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're Tarantino, in which he still means that literally.
PeriodicGolden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tarantino rolls video footage?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:53:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, he is a heavy mdma user
The-Beeper-King ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:06:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Speeding" or "speed" is the more professional term to acknowledge your recorder is in fact recording.
andybader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But that's anachronistic, too. It comes from the motors getting up to speed.
The-Beeper-King ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but in modern times "speeding" is a verification that time code is counting, and speeding is a good term for that.
terencebogards ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:37:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or 'speeding', which we still say. Digital Video doesn't take time to speed up, but film did. But still, every time we roll, we yell 'speed!'
precious_hamburgers_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:22:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, the use of "footage" for that matter.
ritmusic2k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, 'footage' - literally referring to the number of feet of film in a canister.
mishasyeed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Check the gate" to make sure you have usable footage before moving on. Though I've heard "check the chip" more and more in a non-jokey way. Which is funny(?), but not what you're actually doing.
goldfire73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also the term "speed" "speeding," or "sound speeds." It's meant to refer to the physical film taking a second to reach full speed, as opposed to "rolling" which just means on. But digital cameras and sound recorders are always at full speed.
instantpancake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or "speed!" from the cam operator, to indicate that the camera motor transporting the film has now powered up, and it's time to call "action!"
Thunder-Squid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We actually say "speeding" now as in, "camera is speeding" but the term "cut" is still common
theantnest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sound recordist also still says "speed" to indicate he's recording. This is an artefact from the days when the tape recorder reels took time to physically stabilize at the recording speed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "we're rolling" at the rave. I mean what.
ajohns95616 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related: Saying "sound speed" or "one speed", "two speed", etc, for audio or video recording. There's no film that needs to get up to speed. You hit record and it's fully working.
EDIT: Just saw someone below mention the same thing.
Beheska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's even more prevalent in French: the literal translation of "to roll" is the main verb for making any film/video that is not a simple holiday/candid video, it's sometime even employed for acting in one. People say "to roll a let's-play" for example.
Bandwidth_Wasted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also video 'footage' itself refers to the length of the recorded tape
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, in live reggae music, which has a strong history of vocalists playing to backing tracks at dance parties, sometimes the singer will say, "WHEEEEL!" and the whole band makes crazy noises and starts the song over.
They are emulating the sound of what used to happen when the MC would call "wheel," meaning "wheel back the spool of audio tape so I can start over".
courageaj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in TV news and we still say weโre rolling on footage when literally itโs just being digitally recorded as a video file.
A lot of tv and film terms are so out of date now with new technology but the language doesnโt go away.
JessRoyall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling refers to sound.
--Edog-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was shooting (video) a tv spot (commercial) a few years ago and the camera guy still said "speed" to the director to let him know they were filming. "Speed" refers to film getting up to speed in a 35mmor 16mm movie camera.
DjTotenkopf ยท 3608 points ยท Posted at 16:02:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like 'movie' is just as archaic. "Oh look darling! Look at these wonderful pictures! They move! Moving pictures, well I never. I shall call them 'movies', what fun...Oh! Oh I do say, look out! A train!"
joshg8 ยท 1827 points ยท Posted at 16:18:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's not forget the genius level of a creative revelation that occurred when someone realized that "movies" in which we could hear the actors talk could be called "talkies!"
DjTotenkopf ยท 2409 points ยท Posted at 16:25:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I must also give kudos to the genius who came up with 'walkie talkies' for that very reason. My rival company Articulate and Perambulate was a financial disaster.
Edit: sp.
Cuchullion ยท 468 points ยท Posted at 17:15:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you didn't offer free monocles with each set of articulate and perambulators.
secamTO ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:26:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean I could have been monocled while using my artie peries?
xrimane ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:13:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pram actually is short for perambulator.
Hypothesis_Null ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I get one to go with my hydrocoptic marzipans?
theycallhimthestug ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:34:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty good thread about that
Samazonison ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:11:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe I missed the best reddy thready ever.
tdt0005 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:41:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too bad the rootie tootie aim and shootie never took off.
ArcadianAgent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:25:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the whammie kablammie...
Gen_GeorgePatton ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:00:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a WWII ad calling them "handie talkies".
Also there was an AskReddit thread about this way of naming and it was great. My favorite was pregnancy tests being called "maybe baby"
Morat242 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:23:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They called them "handie-talkies" because "walkie-talkie" was what they called the more powerful backpack radio. SCR-300, IIRC.
Gen_GeorgePatton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, how were handie talkies used? At what unit level were radios used by the US?
Morat242 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The SCR-536 "handie-talkie" was the standard infantry platoon-level radio for pretty much the whole war. This would be a very short-ranged (like 1/4 mile or 400m average, maybe 4x that max on land) AM handset. One was in each rifle company HQ, one per rifle platoon, and two in the weapons platoon (I think one for the mortar section and one with the machine gun section). I don't remember whether the UK had a platoon radio, but aside from them no one else did. Way too expensive.
The SCR-300 FM "walkie talkie" (it's even called that in the manual!) backpack became the standard infantry company-level radio starting in mid-43 at New Georgia and Salerno. I don't know offhand what preceded it.
Tanks and artillery each used their own radio systems.
Alamander81 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:47:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By that naming and logic a gun should be named a rootie tootie point-and-shootie Credit to Brian Regan
ronnor56 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:38:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ftfy
usernamenottakenwooh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:03:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/113/392/ducreux1.jpg
MattieShoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they just hate people who can't spell perambulate...
DjTotenkopf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:21:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fixed it for you my lord. I do 'ope you can forgive me, my lord.
MattieShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, was in fun. :-) Wasn't trying to be a dick.
sigilvii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr. Totenkopf's Resplendent
ArticulatorโPerambulator
Patents Pending
Now with Vacuum Transistor Bulbs
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Per = around
Ambulate = to walk.
;)
edit: different than "per" meaning "each". Fun language, english!
Wooleyty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A name like "walkie talkie" is so childish but almost everyone says it, I love it.
arundelo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://imgflip.com/i/19m3o4
IsraeliForTrump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're joking, but the word "modem" isn't far from it. It's a portmanteau of "Modulator" and "Demodulator"
TastefulDrapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You did it. You got my funnybone.
ThatLexxyFellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the same makers of the 'Rooty Tooty Point 'n' Shooty'
TheJBW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first walkie talkie, the motorola scr-300 was literally a backpack with a phone handset on it.
The more portable version that could be held in your hand (and looked like later walkie-talkies) was, sensibly, called a handie-talkie. Unsurprisingly, that name did not catch on as well.
This was an natural naming choice, as it came from Motorola -- who changed their corporate name to that from 'Galvin Manufacturing' after their hit product, an early car radio, the motor (car) - ola (like victrola)
Lukeh41 ยท 660 points ยท Posted at 16:22:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When is this "talkies" fad going to end already? It's been 90 years. Enough now. I miss real films.
If I want to hear actors speak, I'll go out to the theater. Jeez
Virge23 ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 16:34:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously though, they had full ochestral pits and shit.
Foef_Yet_Flalf ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:27:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not usually. They used enormous 100-200 stop organs instead, you only need to pay one guy to play it.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:27:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone shit in the pit?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh yeah they still do
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ochestral pits and shit... lol. Its fancy as fuck.
soapgoat ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:04:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
films? ahah, what a fad, along with the theater
if i want to hear a story i go to the nearest cave with my friends and we all grunt and rub red clay on the walls in the shape of things in our stories
Frank9567 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:38:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, would you expect Hollywood to adopt "think-ies"? That's the logical next step.
zywrek ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:51:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reel films?
Lukeh41 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that. Real films are reel films.
thisshortenough ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:59:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright Norma, we're ready for your close up
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to my dad, my grandfather thought that color films were merely a fad that would die out too.
Lukeh41 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:43:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know...
..the first motion picture ever exhibited in public in the United States (@ Koster & Bial's in Herald Square, NYC, April 1896) was in color? It was done by hand-painting each individual frame of film.
Color was always conceptually present in film from the beginning. Just had to wait for the technology for it to become cost-effective.
Tired8281 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds awesome. 15fps, each frame painted by a contemporary modern artist (each could do a different frame, or each artist could do all the frames for each scene).
InformationMagpie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:18:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Up until the mid-1980s switch to videotape and then the mid-1990s switch to digital, most low-budget independent films were still black and white because it was cheaper.
emrducks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:00:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I miss reel films.
CharlieAzzurro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I miss reel films.
TheSunTheMoonNStars ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reel films
cbslinger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Artist_(film)
adairto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I love the speakies
samwys3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tried going to the theater but the CGI was bushleague
Shakemyears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only books for me! None of that magic.
rckymtnrfc ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:05:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny but I don't think porn ever got nick named "fuckies".
TinuvielsHairCloak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be the change you want to see in the world.
not_homestuck ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, yeah, that's kind of funny. "The talkies" sounds so archaic but "the movies" sounds perfectly normal.
SirFredman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the distant year 2000 we will have smellies, can you imagine that!
Scottland83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Andy Warhol would make sustained films of people not moving. He called them โStilliesโ. Because they stood still.
ctmurray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father wrote a diary in college. He wrote that his family all went to the talkies. This was in 1929 when he was 17.
TheBossMan5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
talkin' pichures
unicorn-jones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think about this every time someone disparages the word "selfie."
skonen_blades ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's amazing to me that 'talkies' disappeared when it's relevance ended but 'movies', which predates talkies, is still in common usage.
imail724 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still need to call 'em something
skonen_blades ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah for sure. No better name came along, I guess.
crystalistwo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only watch 3D movies, and pedestrians continue to watch the flatties.
Shakemyears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I'm curious about the archaic phrases that never really took off.
floppylobster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget walkie-talkies.
Not film related, but they're actually handie-talkies, yet everyone calls them walkie-talkies these days.
(the original walkie-talkie was a back mounted model the handheld ones were handie-talkies)
benevolentpotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait until you hear about the fireplace
Saltire_Blue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the silver screen
sgarfio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny to me that the term "talkies" died out after they all became talkies. That term was only in use for a short while when some films were still silent, and then we went back to calling them "movies" when the novelty of hearing the actors talk wore off.
p3ngwin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/11/29/actors-talk/
gsfgf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like a gif with sound!
kevron211 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That man was Al Gross. I made a documentary about him in middle school. It was terrible.
jackmcc99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was under the impression that talkies referred to plays on the radio that you could hear but not see. Anyone know if that's correct?
Oxideist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Continuing the tradition, in Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" they call their version of the movies "feelies" due to the technology allowing them to feel the emotions of the characters on screen through a sort of haptic device.
glider97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I live, some movie theatres are still called talkies.
Patsycoconut ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:02:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow good point I've never thought of it that way. It sounds silly, almost childish.
VenetiaMacGyver ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:10:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Brave New World they'd have "feelies", which were movies that also delivered physical sensations. I thought it was a dumb name for them until it made me realize how silly "movie" sounds.
Pr0Meister ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:11:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are called 'movers'. Duh.
ipu42 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:17:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zhu Li, do the thing!
Olly0206 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:40:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Archaic doesn't necessarily mean it's incorrectly used or misnamed. They are still moving pictures after all.
Although, on the other hand, if you want to be real technical about it, they never were moving pictures. Just multiple still pictures that portrayed a sense of movement.
Film may be outdated (although still used by some producers), digital recordings do the same thing as film, it's just saved in a digital format rather than on actual film. Nevertheless, they're still just taking rapid still pictures in succession then playing them many frames at a time over a single second to produce the illusion of movement.
DjTotenkopf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:50:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you mean the horse in my zoetrope isn't for reals walking? Dang. I thought it was magic :(
Olly0206 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:56:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your joke reminded me of the guy, who's name I forget, discovered film (not actual film but using it to create movies). He was trying to win a bet over whether or not a horse had at least 2 feet on the ground at any given time while running. So he set up something like 25 or 30 cameras along a horse track and had them take pictures of the horse as it ran by. After he developed them he noticed how, when flipping through them, it gave the illusion that the horse was running.
I could have some of the details wrong. It's been a while since I learned this in film school.
DjTotenkopf ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:11:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true: nobody quite knew how horses ran until the invention of photography. Go find any painting of a horse from the seventeenth century, and you'll notice *that's not how horses fucking run. *
Exitiumx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just got off the phone to a customer who spoke exactly like that. Just read that comment in his voice, super weird!
ScoobyDeezy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:31:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel the same way about 'Television.'
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's all call them "flicks" then.
nalon5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same in the legend of Korra but they call them "movers"
neoLibertine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:06:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the UK many still refer to the cinema as the 'pictures'
TheLast_Centurion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:39:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, I think about this sometimes and wonder if there was hate on that word from people, like today on a word "selfie" which is the very same.
DrunkenShitposter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"As I said at the premier of 'The Great Train Robbery', 'AHHH! THE TRAIN'S COMING RIGHT AT ME!!'"
robisodd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the reference was to Arrival of a Train at La Ciotat not The Great Train Robbery, though it seems people actually being scared of the train is more of a joke.
PuffThePed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies use to run at a very low FPS and would flicker a lot. Hence, a flick.
GenuineSmile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, was that a Lumiรจre reference?
strawberry36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understood the historical reference...this made me laugh like an idiot.
rodrick160 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too...
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand film history jokes. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of film history most of the jokes will go over a typical redditorโs head. I'm too lazy to do the rest of it.
SCScanlan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't movie more apt than film with actual film being phased out?
adviceKiwi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically they still are if they are 1080p because they display a frame to produce movement
manets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh... Never knew "movie" came from "moving pictures", though that's quite obious now that I see it.
Lots of TILs on this thread.
lydocia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Video" isn't better, though.
Rahgahnah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NPH's song at the Oscar's (someone could probably use the Oscar's themselves as an entry for this thread) referenced the "moving picture" definition.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Flicks" are archaic too. It refers to the old projectors that would shine through the transparent film to project the image on the screen. A "shutter" was needed to "flick" and block out the image between frames consistently at quick intervals to give the illusion of motion instead of just seeing a blobby mess on the screen in front of you.
SnapeWho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I unintentionally call movies "pictures" a lot of the time like I was born in 1923
CountAardvark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you just blew my mind
peds4x4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the UK we use term "film" a lot more than "movie". Just as archaic. "Shall we go to the cinema ? What films are on"
VictorVentolin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the term movie. Of course it fucking moves. It's not that exciting any more.
AtlUtdGold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God dammit I didnโt know this at all :(
Rlysrh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents still call it โgoing to the picturesโ sometimes rather than โgoing to the cinemaโ and it sounds ridiculously old-school to me
ThePantsThief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What would you rather call them?
DjTotenkopf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking of calling them 2-Hour Audio-Visual Entertainment Experiences. Do you think that'll catch on?
Category3Water ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite is that people who like to see themselves as aficionados of movies like to refer to them as "films," especially when the movie is supposed to be "important." So important in fact, that they refer to it by the outdated tech we used to make a part of the movies with. Calling it a "film" is like calling a car "wheels" or an old person "white-hair."
bellhalla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word โflickโ came from the flickering of all-time movie projectors.
soapgoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and yet you still use language based on latin? how quaint and old fashioned
DjTotenkopf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:13:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Modern English is based quite heavily on Old Norse and Saxon languages, with a healthy boost of Norman and some Celtic mixed in for good measure. A lot of the impact of Latin came substantially post-Rome, by people who thought it more 'proper', around 1500 onwards, which in this context does make Latin kind of a modern addition.
soapgoat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fwoooosh
*your head
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still tell people I'm going to the pictures. It just stuck with me from when I was a nipper. The Saturday morning pictures were a thing back then for me and me chums. Me mum would send us there when she went for the greens and tatties.
TheSchlaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pondering the celluloids.
SLUnatic85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is pretty funny to consider. But really, they are still exactly that, so the term is not out of date.
shoebob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And to see a "flick" or "Netflix" - old films used to flicker.
Dodgiestyle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did did I read that in two very different accents? The first half in a British snobby kind of accent and the second half in a southern belle kind of accent.
DreamWeaver714 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandparents still tell me that they went to go see a picture in the theAtre.
shazarakk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually why it's called a movie.
sonicated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am in my late thirties and only tonight realised, thanks to your comment, what "movies" were.
Euphemismic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jesus fucking christ
movies (move + vies)
fuck that word is forever changed
battraman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies actually was also used to refer to people who worked in early Hollywood. It was used as a slur.
Flickers, Flicks (or flix) comes from the fact that early motion pictures would flicker sometimes depending on the speed of projection.
I prefer the term "pictures" when talking about movies. People think I'm weird but whatever.
coreanavenger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer listening to the radio or the "soundie."
MauveGorilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah! Youโve seen that footage of the audience freaking out at the image of a train coming towards them? From very very early days of movies. Possibly in France.
mugdays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, no, because images still move on screen.
Akuze25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL where the word movies came from
LotusPrince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, "flicks."
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Flicks. Because the shutter needed to block the light so that the film could advance to the next frame. So they actually flickered. Shorten it up and itโs a flick.
domnominico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read this in the voice of pops voice from regular show
Ice-Insignia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plants. You plant plants. This bothers be.
mcslootypants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just realized movie is just a silly version of the verb "to move". I don't know if I can use the word seriously now.
sandm000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What should we replace 'movie' with?
a series of pictures that portrays movement -> Moving pictures -> movie
Noisy Gifs?
DjTotenkopf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:49:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if we can all agree how to pronounce 'gif'. If not, you have a choice between "Long Big TV Show" and "Pre-recorded Theatre".
sandm000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually really really like "Pre-recorded Theatrical Performance"
namelessted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hard G, as in "graphic". Anybody who says otherwise, even the creator of the format, is wrong. :)
mountainsbythesea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe I never made the connection movies - moving pictures
https://i.imgur.com/WrKPhfd.gif
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:11:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DjTotenkopf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cheeky reference to a popular myth
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for answering my question rather than downvoting me.
yesanything ยท 451 points ยท Posted at 16:21:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my mother still literally tapes her favorite soap everyday, she still has a VHS machine and even a CRT type television!
MyShout ยท 778 points ยท Posted at 16:27:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Buy your mother some technology from this century for Christmas.
yesanything ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 16:43:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We, that's my siblings and I, have been offering to do so for years. She wants no part of it!
[deleted] ยท 191 points ยท Posted at 18:31:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dont do it! We did that for my father in law, now my husband is giving him tech support at least twice a week when he mixes up his remotes or cant get Netflix to load. Keep it simple!
pcliv ยท 123 points ยท Posted at 19:36:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - exactly - if it still works for them, don't upgrade until absolutely necessary.
They won't even consider actually trying to pay attention and learn how the new TV works until the old one dies, because they come from a time when everything wasn't "disposable" and "new" every 6 months, and you didn't get something new until you wore the old one slam out.
Once the TV or VCR finally dies - at first, they'll even be more willing to just "stop" watching it than go through the hassle and cost of getting a modern device, and god forbid, having to learn how to use it.
They want everything written down, nice and simple and easy and in-order, and use no more buttons than they had to before. They don't realize that there are a hundred different way to do the same thing, and all depend on the current "mode" the remote is in. You know, the whole "Remember the last time you switched from "SAT" to "AUX" to change the volume on the stereo, and didn't remember to push "SAT" when you finished, then start freaking out and calling customer support and starting a $85 "repair" service ticket, simply because you tried to pause live TV once, but it was in "AUX" mode and didn't do what you wanted it to immediately?" incident.
So, now they call you every time they want to switch an input or change the volume or sometimes even how to turn it on. . . for the 12th time.
Sorry, rant over - My Mom's in her 90's and I go through this at least twice a month, sometimes weekly.
TiaxTheMig1 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:26:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother used to randomly invite me to dinner and every single time I got there she would ask me to look at the TV while she was cooking. It wasn't until after an embarrassing amount of times that I noticed it wasn't really random... the TV or computer needed fixed every time she invited me over. That sly old bird was paying my ramen noodle eating ass for tech support with home cooked meals.
yesanything ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:20:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my niece has to visit to change the remote batteries
ReckoningGotham ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:23:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think she just wants to see her, at that rate.
which is kinda cute.
Skim74 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:23:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was sad when I first went to college my grandparents called me in early October saying they messed up the computer and were looking forward to Thanksgiving when I could fix it for them.
I enlisted my little sister to take over the tech support duties after that.
AlphakirA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happens with my grandparents as well...and my father in law...and my father. Infuriating when all I do is Google it when I don't know what the problem is.
lsguk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:24:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's one thing to just 'google' it (that's amazingly a verb now), it's a totally different thing to both know what to google and understand the results.
If I'm trying to figure out how to do some fancy formula in Excel 1/3 of my time is spent trying to figure it out myself. 1/3 trying to figure out how to explain to Google what I want to do and the remaining 1/3 trying to understand the answer qnd apply it to my spreadsheet.
And then when people ask me how I'm 'so good'at Excel I honestly feel like a fraud because I literally spent and hour farting about trying to make something work.
DaSaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really not a bad deal. You'll think back on it fondly when she ain't there any more.
TiaxTheMig1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right it wasn't. She passed last year. That was me thinking back on it fondly :)
drbluetongue ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No tech support for family members
Jack_Vermicelli ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:19:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's a general inability to follow on-screen menus or to understand that a button has a variable, interactive function. If every single operation had a dedicated button, they'd be annoyed but able to cope.
ZenithSal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:28:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh man now I remember this.. a thing that used to drive me crazy, when display tech changed from using RF single cables to audio-video white-yellow-red cables? whenever any adult in my house wanted to connect any device they call me to "fix" it and I always find the cables just randomly hooked sometimes from and to the same device! I felt like screaming sometimes, how difficult it's to understand that you just connect the cables by color from device to TV?! Additionally, the AV button on the remote was a total mystery that I have to explain every single damn time. This kept happening for years!!
I felt that it isn't that they don't understand, just that they refuse to accept that it changed.
SouffleStevens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of TVs even up to the late 90s didn't have any video inputs other than coaxial cable so you had to have an RF modulator and a switch to go between that and the cable/antenna.
wedontlikespaces ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had this yesterday. They called me to complain that since they got a new DVR it has "broken netflix".
Of course all that had happened is that the new DVR didn't magically log them into netflix because DVR's are not cloud based so don't know what you did on a different device.
pcliv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our neighbor, who's only 57, just switched from DirectTV to DishNetwork last week. We heard for 3 days straight how pissed off she was now that she didn't get the "ID" channel any more (she loves her murder mysteries I guess).
We even heard her from next door, raising hell with the Dish customer service on the phone because she couldn't get the ID channel.
She was given a quick reference channel guide with her new system, she won't wear her glasses to read it, and she never even bothered to check if the channels were on different numbers when she switched providers - so she had been looking for the ID network on DISH on the same channel # as it was on on DirectTV. And she wasn't embarrassed in the slightest - she was angry that it was different.
Then, just this morning, she was over here asking me what a "Joey" was and why her living room TV was telling her something about a "Joey" in another room. She actually thought some guy named Joey was supposed to come fix her bedroom TV, when her joey had just timed out and shut down after hours of inactivity.
Some people just should not be allowed to operate technology.
TangoOscarDD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:51 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the flip side of this, my in-laws, for example, at least try to adopt new technology...that they end up calling me 3-4 times a week to explain or fix for them. Not too bad, for me, but calling me at work, or getting all upset that I didn't answer the phone immediately because I was in the shower/mowing the yard/working on something that makes noise/hunting.
NSA_Chatbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suggest this year getting a universal remote with an LCD. The Logitech 650 has programmable functions that show on the remote when you pick it up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, Ill take a look at it!
NSA_Chatbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome.
My parents (in their 70s) can use it to watch Netflix through my smart TV, which pipes audio through a receiver.
My kids (now 11 and 13, but the remote is a couple of years old) are able to use the remote to do the same, or play XBox, or watch a BR movie.
I've also set it up to control the lights, but I'm the only one that knows that. I just told everyone to go up and press the wall switch.
lsguk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes life is easier when you keep your mouth shut, eh?
wannabesq ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd just buy her replacement model VCRs for when hers inevitably breaks. Maybe even find a backup TV too.
If she's happy, why force her to upgrade?
OlyScott ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:16:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The last company that built new VHS VCRโs stopped making them. Maybe thereโs a business that sells reconditioned ones.
Av3ngedAngel ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:24:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, eBay lol
MinagiV ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:27:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father in law, who owned a local video store, has a few still brand new in package. When he passes (knock on wood it wonโt be for a while), weโre selling those suckers for real. (He also has original, in-wrapper Disney movies on VHS! Dude isnโt exactly a hoarder, but he knows whatโs valuable and wants us to have a nice little nest egg for our kids.)
_Occams-Chainsaw_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:50:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw this link the other day, it might be useful for you: http://www.qpolitical.com/check-house-8-vhs-tapes-can-retire-now/
MinagiV ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:59:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure he has at least half of these, and also the original print of The Little Mermaid with the โpenis tower!โ Damn. My kids are getting an amazing edumacation!
obi1kenobi1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:11:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a garbage article, none of those are selling for more than a few dollars on eBay. For example, they claim $17,000 for a Black Diamond edition of Beauty and the Beast, but there are sealed copies as low as $25. If you have all 8 of those in decent used condition you're probably looking at $20, and most of that will go toward shipping costs.
People need to learn that just because someone is asking a ridiculous amount of money for something on eBay/Amazon/Craigslist it doesn't mean that anyone will buy it at that price. It's not difficult to check "sold" listings on eBay, and when one item does appear to sell at a high price while hundreds of others go for a few dollars it's generally a sign of a prank/scam, something fishy like money laundering, or that it was a "best offer" situation (eBay doesn't publish what an item sells for, only how much the seller asked, so it could be that they listed it at $17,000 but someone offered $10 and they accepted the offer).
deptford ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amen to that. If people are content with older systems, why force an upgrade? CRT tv's and VCR'S still work. Picking up a 2nd hand model will not be hard
CptNoble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because he wants that sweet setup for himself.
jingerninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find after a certain point old technology becomes more expensive. Case in point my sister wants one of those bedside alarm clock/iPod docks but ones that still have a port for an old ass iPod like hers cost more than new ones with a lightning connector.
wannabesq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Supply and demand can be a bitch.
ScaryJelly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like switching to a flat screen is not much of an inconvenience. A DVR might be too much, my parents rarely use their Roku.
Cuchullion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some times you have to push a little.
My mom swore she would never, ever use digital cameras... until I just got her one for Christmas.
Now she can't see going back to actual film.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is your mom Dewey Cox?
yesanything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can assure you she is NOT Dewey Cox
liontamarin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's likely declining because she doesn't want her children to spend money on something she sees as expensive and unnecessary, not because she is a tv luddite.
My grandparents resisted HD and DVDs until the family just bought them some LCD tvs.
They didn't complain.
For Christmas just upgrade for her.
Haltgamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:11 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't upgrade her from a CRT. Then the response time gets a lot lower! Let me guess, next you're gonna "upgrade" her to a Madcatz controller?
MyShout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that sucks. Good on you guys for trying.
yesanything ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:04:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it sucks at all she's happy
MyShout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, my mistake.
yesanything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and she has the basic of basic cable packages. She had never heard of CSPAN and it was quite a challenge trying to explain it to her.
Dotjiff ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:05:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If yesanything's mother is anything like mine, she literally would refuse someone buying her new technology. New technology doesn't mean better quality, ease of use, etc., it just means "another headache" since she has to learn how to use it.
bigsheldy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:15:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, get her a Zune!
Year_of_the_Alpaca ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:28:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I got a DVR, I remember telling my Dad that if you explained what it did to my Mum, she wouldn't want one... but if you actually gave her one and let her use it, she'd love it.
My brother bought one for my parents a year or two later and it turned out I was absolutely right.
Hazakurain ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:51:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use CRT daily because they are nolag.
GrumpyGoomba9 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:09:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the Melee player
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All you casuals are enjoying the nostalgia in Stranger Things, /u/yesanything 's mom is living it!
ImmortanJoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old people have been through it all. My grandmother was always a huge Indian soap opera addict. She lived through the radio days, to black and white TV (rented during special occasions), to a modern 4K Smart TV equipped with all kinds of apps. Still watches the same things.
FierceDeity_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they did, it would just have DRM and delete the recorded episodes after 5 days or be HDCP protected
missionbeach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like a recipe to frustrate your mother. If what she has works for her, go with it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*this millenium
gsfgf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's getting her a cell phone this year!
ryan2point0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Buy yourself a headache for the new year" is all i could read from that
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:28:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
VCR?
AlmanzoWilder ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:05:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soap! You've just given us one. These shows used to be sponsored largely by soap companies. Now it's (probably) mostly pharmaceutical companies.
Duffy1Kit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:50:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So should we call them drug operas now?
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously good idea!
Alamander81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Go away, I'm trying to.watch my anti-depressants"
V13Axel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt still has an old CRT TV with a built-in VCR.
One of my cousins records Game of Thrones from Netflix onto VHS tapes for her every few weeks.
Brawndo91 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:21:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called a VCR.
Malamodon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends what country you grew up in; in the UK we never called it a VCR, was generally called a video player or video recorder depending on what you were doing with it.
Year_of_the_Alpaca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or often just "video" (e.g. "oh, have we got a video?" (mildly NSFW)).
"Video" was also often used to refer to video cassettes, though I don't recall any confusion between the two, so I assume the context must have made it clear.
(Why am I "assuming" that about words I even frequently used myself? Because- like most language you pick up implicitly and which is in common use- I don't think I ever consciously paid attention to it. Also, it's a almost a decade since I last regularly used a video recorder, and I'll have been influenced more by American terms like "VCR" in recent years that- as you say- no-one used at the time).
Driesens ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How else is she going to watch her Night Court reruns?
Alamander81 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
John Larroquette's son has a great podcast called Uhh Yeah Dude.
TakeOffYourMask ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She has a digital converter box connected to her VCR?
socratesaf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I gave my 73 yr old mom a tablet w Netflix, Kindle, and Bluetooth speakers as a backup plan because her old stuff - archaic computer, VCR, DVD player, ancient TV - kept having various probs and of course I'm tech support so it was in my interest too. We play games online now and she's learned about grocery delivery and how to Google things. Now at 75 she is considering cutting the cable cord! I'll believe it when I see it but she's come a long way! Still has a landline and a tape answering machine. ๐
EightsOfClubs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soap. There's another one.
A soap opera's original purpose was to sell soap.
Salsastrength ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet she has a sick melee set up
jjconstantine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the initialism you're looking for is 'VCR'
goalieamd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
soaps are still on?
yesanything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh and does she ever get pissed when her soap gets interrupted for sports
100PercentRudos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother does this as well for "Days of our Lives" every single day at 2 p.m.
yesanything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the one
TheSunTheMoonNStars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom refuses to throw out her VHS as well. They have a DVD and a dvr player, but she loves some of the stuff she has and won't convert it.
Turmoil_Engage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Why are blank VHS tapes getting so expensive? They're so old, they should be cheaper than this".
restlessmonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of very few regrets: not buying my mom a DVR before she died. Suggest you get her one.
/was 15 years ago so not as popular as they are now, but still
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pictured a bar of Dovetm soap on the screen for 2 hours.
Alamander81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet your mom also smokes cigarettes and "needs her coffee"
yesanything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not as cigarette in over 50 years. Pay up!
ockhams-razor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That fail is on you, my friend. What kind of son are you??
OppressedCactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was my mom right up till they cancelled All My Children.
FYF69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do my in-laws. On both counts. Every time I go over to their house and they have the TV on, I wonder how the hell we put up with that garbage for so long.
To be clear, when I was a child, our TV was a 13" B/W.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom is so retro.
laxt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it works..
Axeman517 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With rabbit ears?
DirtySouthRower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who does your mom main in super smash brothers melee for the Nintendo GameCube
Metatron_Fallen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It works.
Ashybuttons ยท 235 points ยท Posted at 15:34:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I rarely hear people say tape in that context anymore, but I still call movies "films" all the time.
IamLuke555 ยท 144 points ยท Posted at 16:47:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a film major, not a movie major. But I say Iโm going to the movies when I go see a movie. The context definitely helps.
dibblah ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 17:50:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the UK, you'd say "Going to see a film at the cinema"
BonnieMacFarlane2 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:19:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Scottish - and plenty of us still say we're going to the 'pictures'.
BONGLISH ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:47:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Northern England it can be the same, any mix of going the cinema/pictures.
Medic_101 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:44:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in Wales, definitely would say 'pictures'.
TheAlmostMadHatter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if this is just my own personal connotation, but I find "film" more the craft of making motion pictures.
Buki1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I'm from we say "go see a movie" when you are going to actually see the movie and "go to the movies" if you are taking date to cinema.
__rosebud__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ex-film major (graduated 2014) here too. I appreciate that you use the word movie. Referring to movies as "films" always sounded so pretentious to me.
E: I let OP know I appreciate him, I get downvoted. OP responds by saying he agrees with what I said, OP gets upvotes. Yโall confuse me sometimes.
IamLuke555 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:27:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I completely agree. Film is a word I use only when speaking about my education. When people ask me what I think about say Interstellar, I tell them itโs my favorite movie. Otherwise Id sound like a pretentious asshole.
FunInStalingrad ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:29:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kino.
Actually, in Russian film and kino are appropriate word for movies.
nolotusnotes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:57:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're an .mp4 major.
IamLuke555 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
yepthatguy2 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're an MPEG major these days.
IamLuke555 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:05:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Screenwriter actually. Any production stuff is secondary and I donโt do well with it.
Michcio694 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 15:56:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't just difference between American and British English?
dsjunior1388 ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 16:02:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, Americans use "films" pretty item too. Not as much as "movie" but it isn't rare.
We won't say "let's go see a film" but will definitely say "that's the best horror film I've seen in years" or "You didn't tell me this movie was a foreign film."
cgspam ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 16:37:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"film" has a more highbrow connotation, like you can see an independent film or a B movie.
NowWaitJustAMinute ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 17:44:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"the Bee Film"
-Reddit_Account- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hoped so much someone would make this joke.
John_Wilkes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's because it comes from British English? It's like how the German word is more vulgar and the Latin word is posher in the English language.
Tattered_Colours ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:35:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs not from British English though. Hollywood used to shoot on film hence the term. I think the reason itโs seen as more โhigh browโ has more to do with the fact that film had a higher picture quality than digital for a very long time, which attracted filmmakers with high standards and a taste for retro technology like when Tarantino shot the Hateful 8. It has the same โanalog > digitalโ hipster appeal as vinyl and Polaroid, and the word itself just sounds more prestigious than โmovie.โ
JMGurgeh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:54:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a thing pre-digital age. Film was still the highbrow version, movie the more common way of referring to them.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My personal view is that "movie" sounds more casual because it's a diminutive.
FredDerf666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, your local art house cinema will always show "foreign films". A "foreign movie" just doesn't sound proper.
StochasticLife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's a little more complicated. "Movies" or "Movie" are used to reference the idea. Like, "Let's go to the movies", or "Did you watch a movie last night".
A 'film' is more specific and tangible. "Lets see a horror film" or "It was the best film I had seen in ages".
ward_bond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. My wife and I describe various motion pictures in that fashion. Out of Africa is a film, Encino Man is a movie.
PhotoJim99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By coincidence, such films are more likely to be shot on motion picture film than via digital capture.
Grizzly_Berry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To me it's about the content of the show. If it's just another blockbuster "give me money," it's a movie (which can still be a great movie, but a movie nonetheless). If it's art, not targeted at everyone that might see it, and not made solely to make money, I consider it a film.
Justice League = movie; Lady Bird = film
Tomatentom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats an interesting definition, just keep in mind that people probably do not share it.
DieFledermausFarce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We use "movie" and "movies" when saying "film" or "theater would sound pretentious but using "film" or "theater" is perfectly fine when used to describe those things.
"We went to the movies."
"What theater did you go to?"
joshi38 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:40:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film's a fairly widely used term. All the festivals are known as "Film Festivals", including in the US.
darthmase ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also movie music and movie score doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely as with film.
standingfierce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, most people in the US have been saying movies for far longer than digital film-making has been around.
JustRuss79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies are pictures that move. Talkies were moving pictures with sound instead of caption cards. Move ie is a very American term... Slang... I totally get why British would call them films, since that is what they were recorded on... but Movie makes more sense to me as a less ambiguous term.
quitepossiblytrue ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:34:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The US has been around longer than digital film making?
draginator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes...?
quitepossiblytrue ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:34:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just joking don't worry
TheBossMan5000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:19:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah people just say "record" now. "Did you record it?"
dezzz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
French is my native language, and im not sure if there is an other word to say "movie" in french.
NuderWorldOrder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason people still say "sex tape" when speaking of celebrities recorded doing the naughty though.
Infobomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in my 40s and I often hear my friends using the verb "tape" to describe what a DVR does.
kindall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A videographer I used to know back in Detroit did lots of candid shooting. People would ask him, "are you filming?" and he'd reply "no," then wait a beat and add, "it's videotape."
instantpancake ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: Films are rarely on film anymore, they're mostly digital projections by now, so "film" is archaic, too.
The same is true for the acquisition (namely shooting on film is on its way out, and the vast majority of cinema cameras are digital today).
Jack_Vermicelli ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that's the entire point of submitting it into this thread.
instantpancake ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:24:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it was also pointed out that calling them "movies" is outdated already, i was just expanding on that.
trackofalljades ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 16:05:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear it a lot, still, with regard to audio...like did you hear what Trump said? They caught it on tape! (no, no tape was involved)
catdude142 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:09:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Professional recording studios still use analog tape.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:54:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all of them have the equipment and those that do rarely use it. Almost every instance I personally know of it being used in the last few years is essentially as an effect in the signal chain to get that sweet sweet tape saturation, with the end of the chain still being a Pro Tools rig.
But yeah, you're right, the equipment is still owned and used.
trackofalljades ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A very, very, small and dwindling number do...and as far as I know only one uses a completely end to end analog workflow. Now tape is still used a lot to back up digital data of course, but nobody ever uses "tape" as a verb regarding that.
TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lordy, I hope there are tapes!
thatserver ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies are still shot on film, are they not?
digisax ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:59:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some are still, a lot are digital now that the quality is there for digital too.
__rosebud__ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:21:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AFAIK the majority of high-budget movies are still shot on film. Commercials and lower-budget productions are almost all shot digitally.
Crash324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't say the majority.
Bribase ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:44:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some, not all.
ot1smile ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hardly any.some, but not most.edit to possibly appease the downvoters
PointyOintment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots.
ot1smile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate that they're both vague and subjective terms but I'd argue that 29 movies shot on film released in 2016 is closer to 'hardly any' than 'lots'. Either way there are definitely fewer movies shot on film than digitally these days. Even Roger Deakins has said that 'it's over'. The very fact that there is lots of attention paid whenever someone like Tarantino makes a point of shooting on film, or that Kodak have a 'Shot on Film' page, is precisely because they are bucking the overall trend.
sources - http://filmmakermagazine.com/101600-27-movies-shot-on-35mm-released-in-2016/#.WicWHUtpEUE
https://stephenfollows.com/film-vs-digital/
Bribase ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also footage of something. It originally meant literal length in feet of videotape or film.
Fingers_9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:32:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say tape something. My dad will often tell me he has videoed something.
gelftheelf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:52:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lordy I hope there are tapes!
Shakis87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Movies" also refers to moving pictures.
Batchagaloop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use the term "DVR" now...if I heard someone say "I taped it" I would look at them kind of funny.
nbd712 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:10:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in TV and we still have tape rooms, tape operators, when we go back to the beginning of a digital playlist, we still call it re-racking. That being said...we still use actual tape for some things.
Backerman5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel as though "film" connotes an artistic endeavor, or else a really snooty taste in movies
flash17k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many movies are still recorded on film, though. It's not totally digital at this point yet.
flash17k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife always asks me to get my cellphone out and "tape" something cute that the kids are doing. I have tried to get her to start saying "record" to no avail.
cshea71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also the term "filming" something, when film is never actually used.
CLearyMcCarthy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling a movie a film isn't uncommon in the US. It's also not quite innacurate yet. Many big budget movies are still shot on literal filmstock (the new Star Wars movies, for example) and many theaters still project on actual reels (though digital is certainly becoming more and more commonplace).
The simple fact is digital technology is not yet at the same level as high end film stock, and a discerning connoisseur/expert can still identify the different. Probably won't be that way by mid-century anymore, though.
Crash324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's close. Ask Steve Yedlin (who, as it happens, just shot The Last Jedi). His DisplayPrepDemo is incredibly telling about the impact of image preparation in both environments (http://yedlin.net/OnColorScience/). He can essentially replicate the look of film with digital cameras. At the high-end color houses are adding grain plates, but they're not always believable. However, what Yedlin does is a much more involved process that yields incredible results. The large majority of audience members would not be able to tell the difference.
Film stock is still improving too, which is great to hear. And digital noise is getting less ugly, look at Atlanta, tons of noise but still looks beautiful.
CLearyMcCarthy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I said, by mid century we'll be at parity.
ocschwar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Hebrew, the word for a video is "ribbon", for obvious reasons.
And the term for a funny anecdote is "clipping." You have to be real old to understand that part. (Back in the day, children's birthday parties would feature a Super-8 movie projector aimed at a bedsheet, with rented 8 mm reels of scenes from full length movies. (for example, just the slapstick scenes from Herbie the Love Bug))
Nightstalker117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've ways known them as films ever since I was born and loved my whole life in england
Cinemaphreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Movie" and "film" are used interchangeably here in the U.S. Especially helpful when writing about them.
Personally, I kind of use "movie" generically and "film" for those that are attempting to be something less about entertainment and more about art. Example: X-Men: Days of Future Past is a movie whereas Logan was tying to be a film.
ctmurray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I decided to keep using "taping" instead of "DVRing" when discussing television recordings.
Cole444Train ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US "film" is still used from time to time.
JeanVanDeVelde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in live television production and still call it a "tape" because it's the most unambiguous term to use to describe a video piece. "Get the tape to playback ASAP" works better than "Get the rendered final piece on a USB stick now"
ot1smile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get the AS11 on SSD now!
FoxandFangs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my town at least we still show a few movies on film a year
AskewPropane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in the U.S
juicelee777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in the same vein mixtapes are no longer cassettes with one song blending into the next song. nor are they a collective of unrelated songs by different artists that convey a similar idea
PeculiarPeter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of movies are still shot on film, so itโs not entirely irrelevant.
dont_touch-me_there ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must be an English thing. Hardly anyone, if anyone says it in Scotland.
JarlofScotland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What, taping something or calling them films? I do both, most people I know say the same. I don't think it's a particularly English thing either.
dont_touch-me_there ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both. Must be an age thing too.
JarlofScotland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe. You don't have to tell me obviously but out of interest, how old are you?
dont_touch-me_there ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
31 and you?
JarlofScotland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dont_touch-me_there ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:40 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty good typing skills for a one year old.
zazathebassist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well there are a ton of movies still being recorded on actual film. Tarantino and Nolan very famously still use actual film. So it's not as archaic as it seems.
mal_wash_jayne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies are still recorded on film so not much of a stretch there.
narnou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not even sure there's a different word than "film" in french tbh
djamp42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't use that any more, I say DVR it.
l5555l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If anything I feel like film is coming back into prominence. Enthusiasts seem to prefer it to movie.
timeslider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I recorded you on tape!" with a smartphone.
madepopular ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And both terms are antiquated when you think about it. โMoviesโ came before โtalkiesโ, even. Really what we watch today are talkies.
oodsigma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well many Hollywood movies are actually still recorded on film.
spi-c-cke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes when I record something with my phone I say "I got that on video" and instantly feel like an old person
pm-me-kittens-n-cats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I run into this problem when I want to say a movie wasn't good enough to see in the theaters but they should see it at home when it comes to.. DVD?
Seems like the wrong word to use. I don't think people even buy/rent movies on DVD anymore. Netflix might never have it. So the solution would be to rent it "off Amazon/iTunes/cable provider".. but that's a lot of words to say.
unbreakablegrantlee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually people say 'I DVRed it'
wolf_and_blade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still refer to movies in casual conversation as a flick.
Sonja_Blu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've switched from movie to film about 90% of the time because that's what my husband says. I think my vocabulary is just super weird now after living in Scotland, marrying a Scottish guy, and then moving back to Canada. Everything is all mixed up. At least I can take comfort in the fact that he says Canadian stuff now too.
Hitlerclone_3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean a lot of movies are still recorded on film, digitally projected though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a lot of movies are shot digitally but I think quiet a few are still shot on film?
colenotphil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I generally refer to artistic pieces as "films" and the rest as just "movies", e.g. Her is a film, whereas Transformers is a movie.
HitlerMoonLanding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone who still says tape will be dead within 20 years. I hardly think this qualifies Uncle Monty you dirty man.
9loabl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am sure some (probably very few by now) movies/films are still recorded using film cameras. You know that celluloid stuff that got replaced by digital.
So the word 'film' is a more recent word than 'movie' which dates back to the 1910s or thereabouts.. The term came from the fact that the images were moving. Like motion pictures.
titaniumjackal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're still using film over there in the U.K.!?
ShiaLaMoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also 'caught on tape', sounds like a duck tape trap caught them.
bcm2578 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 9 year old that sometimes says she โtaped a videoโ when sheโs talking about using an iPhone to take a video. I have no clue where she picked that up from.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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xorgol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or pellicola, but it's not exactly in common usage. I only made the connection between the word film, meaning movie, and the word film meaning pellicule when learning English.
SckidMarcker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a lot of movies are still shot in and projected in film, but it's not an industry standard anymore.
kodemage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TV is also anachronistic. At this point they're all just screens. The difference between a TV and a Monitor is academic at this point.
nels5104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DVR is now a verb which is comical.
โIโm DVRing itโ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cinematography refers to the cinematograph, one of the earliest motion picture cameras invented by the Lumiรจre brothers in the 1890s.
aa2051 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Scotland we also say "We're going to the pictures" instead of going to the cinema, which im sure was a nickname when silent films first came about, as they were essentially just rapidly moving frames (well, they still are!) Never thought about it until now, pretty odd its stuck around after all these years.
RhettS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of movies are still shot or projected on film. Not as many as digital, but still there are some.
Droolings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also on a production of a movie:
"Speeding" and "Sound speed" in reference to the days of recording on film it would take a short moment to get these rolling at the same speed.
Loreen72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every night in our house you can hear someone say "did you set the DVR up to tape xxxx show yet?"!
Chrisrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies are also called "films" everywhere English is spoken, not just the UK.
alexdas77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all movies are shot in digital, film is still used as some directors prefer it.
Salzberger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TV hosts saying "Tune in next week." We still tune our TVs but usually only need to do it once.
crimeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some movies ARE shot on film today
bajsesombarn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Sweden, the only word for movie is โfilmโ
ahecht ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But more and more movies are returning to using actual film these days. The new Star Wars movies (but not Rogue One), the DC movies (Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, Justice League), the new Mummy movie, Murder on the Orient Express, Dunkirk, Hidden Figures, La La Land, Fences, Silence, etc. were all shot on film.
Alpha_Bit_Poop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also I heard that the word 'movie' is an Americanism, and proper Brits say films!
TheKingOfDub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh! Have you got a video?!
ShikiRyumaho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Der Film" is the German word for film.
KingoftheGinge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! I know a good few people who still tape the football - or get the wife to - if they're working. My dad included, and he's still in his early fifties.
your-momm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But movies is slang for "moving pictures." Still a pretty old reference.
ioworegon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies were silent films - talkies were movies!
FuckBigots5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think about how old timey the thought process behind "Movies" is though. "Thats a movie! And thats a Colorie! Look a smellie! And a feelie!"
LynnisaMystery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In American, only the more artsy stuff gets called a film. Iโd guess it has to do with it sounding fancier to us thanks to how indie movies are marketed. A movie by a studio like A24 usually gets called a film, while superhero films are always โmovie of the yearโ or some other cliche line of action packed adventure for the moviegoer.
-notJohnThough- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen that latest Bond film, governah?
MasterWomble ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:42:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eerily accurate.
Fingers_9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dick van Dyke, is that you?
derpado514 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape drives are still widely used in the IT industry.
ot1smile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LTO backup is common in broadcast too.
RenegadeCookie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do a similar thing - "Is that out on video yet?"
The response from some people is like "...noooo?? It's on Blu-Ray" as if I genuinely think someone released it on a fucking VHS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN YOU PEDANTIC ASS.
ot1smile ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not even pedantic, just plain wrong. As I've said elsewhere, the word video doesn't belong to VHS (or DVD). The Blu-rays you get are blu-ray video discs. Video just means visual so in the context you're using it it's obvious that it means 'a digital video format available for home viewing', which could cover DVD, blu-ray or download/streaming services.
ascii122 ยท 791 points ยท Posted at 21:07:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the static at the beginning of an HBO show. Whole generations have no idea why there is static there.
random_fucktuation ยท 350 points ยท Posted at 22:21:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never mind why it's there, they don't know what it is. The HDMI and digital TV age has eliminated ever seeing static.
BobTurnip ยท 274 points ยท Posted at 23:43:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is a shame, because it contains light from the beginning of the universe
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:59:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta love CMBR. Sometimes I wish we could see the microwave spectrum so that when we looked up at night it wouldn't be so dark.
emberaith ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:30:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but then we'd be so overwhelmed with input that we'd go crazy. So there's that.
yParticle ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:43:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is one theory which posits that this Has Already Happened.
emberaith ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:58:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go on..
AreYaEatinThough ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:15:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a Lovecraft story. I'd read it.
derpmcgurt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:21:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a straight male, but Mike Rowe's voice makes me weak in the knees.
Noctis_Lightning ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:53:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure I'm understanding how TV static contains light from these microwaves. Could you (or somebody else) help me understand?
Kurayamino ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:00:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's a radio signal, just an entirely random one.
Of course these days most of the static on your screen is interference from earth, but way back when it wasn't so noisy it really was the case that it was mostly CMBR.
Noctis_Lightning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:46 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the reply, I appreciate the explanation!
ChocolateMonkeyBird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit
Mythodiir ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:12:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My entire childhood was plagued by too much static on the television. I just want to watch cartoons. Work damn you!
JoshwaarBee ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:49:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my pet peeve. When digital TVs in films display the analog 'snow' static. It doesn't make any sense at all.
random_fucktuation ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:40:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya it's used for dramatic effect to show that something's conked out but it's becoming a bit of an anachronism.
Also, 'films', lol!
hallettj ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:40:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until people become more accustomed to the blue screen of "no input".
Euchre ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:43:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny thing about the 'blue screen'...
Choosing blue for a screen lacking signal or not otherwise displaying an image was the worst thing for CRT displays. The phosphors used in CRTs do 'burn out' from use, and guess which color is most vulnerable? Yep, blue. Some folks savvy in such display technology propose that this was to wear out displays on purpose, to push for more frequent replacement purchases.
Of course, LCDs don't suffer such a similar issue, so your choice of 'no signal' screen is inconsequential.
random_fucktuation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OLED screens would burn green faster in case where that's the display tech, however
playaspec ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:36:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not entirely. My 4K smart tv displays a burst of static and the image shrinks vertically like a CRT TV losing power.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:48:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs probably done intentionally
FrauAway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:51:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TVs still show static and make a loud-ass fucking noise if you don't have an input.
For some reason.
Fuck you, LG.
random_fucktuation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only of you ever use it in TV mode. My TV is permanently on HDMI1 for satellite TV or HDMI2 for Chromecast. I don't even have a TV antenna connected to it.
Jellodyne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel. - William Gibson
So it's solid primary blue, right?
random_fucktuation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Awesome. Yeah - definitely 0000FF. For sure.
klarno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get static all the time on HDMI from a crappy laptop I use as an HTPC into my crappy TV
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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random_fucktuation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It must be connected to your cable box over RF and tuned to the signal then. Get yourself and HDMI cable, and enjoy a better quality picture.. And never see static again.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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random_fucktuation ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:07:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh right. Ya not worth it then.
LiTMac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, I just realized it's been years since I saw static on the tv!
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No we do it's a common part of pop culture...
PersianExcurzion ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:55:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like video games and vcr having to be on channel 3
BrandeX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They never did. Virtually every device that had a connection like this had a switch to set it to channel 3 OR 4.
Erityeria ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:03:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Later yes, but not originally. RF modulators didn't have the frequency switch until later either.
horbob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the really old ones. That switch happened about half way through the N64 generation.
ATS_throwaway ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:19:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's inaccurate. I clearly remember my Sega Genesis having a channel selection switch. I went from SNES to PlayStation, then to Xbox 360. SNES also had a switch, but PlayStation was composite.
collin-h ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:25:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not that old (mid-30s) but I still remember TV stations that went off air overnight.
OzNTM ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:32:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ABC3 in Australia still does. I also remember probably about 15-20 years ago kids channels on pay tv here used to as well. Nickelodeon (I think?) used to turn into TCM after a certain time of night.
Winter_Lily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg im 27 and i forgot that happened!!!
dmanww ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:28:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first line of Neuromancer still works, but means something completely different.
"The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel."
ArrakeenSun ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:34:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So a splash screen with "No Signal" in one of the corners?
dmanww ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:48:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something like this
ascii122 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:38:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or Snow Crash .. which I guess was actually named after a memory dump bitmap
jmquinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just started this book earlier this week. Never read it before, for whatever reason. Funny timing seeing a comment referencing it!
BizzleMalaka ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:51:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we were kids(Iโm 32) weโd sometimes get up too early for cartoons and have to watch โblack and white bug fightโ as we called it...
ascii122 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:32:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah ... ant wars
MikeFichera ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rip saturday morning cartoons.
BizzleMalaka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:50:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were definitely more special when they werenโt available on demand. Good times.
MikeFichera ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i used to record them on vhs and watch them during the week, if i got up especially early i remember i'd catch the adams family. trying to remember some of my favorites but honestly can't. i do remember the spider man cartoon being pretty good. gargoyles. the tick was okay. i remember street sharks for some reason too lol.
BizzleMalaka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:11:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also x-men, Batman, tiny-tunes, anamaniacs, tailspin, darkwing duck, biker mice from mars, tmnt, bonkers, freakazoid...
pomegranate2012 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:45:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what very young people think of that stylistic thing were thrillers or 'mysterious' TV shows have subtitles appear as if produced by a a typewriter. I'm explaining this badly but I'm sure you can imagine an episode of the X-Files.
And that appears one letter at a time with a tip - tap - tip - tap sound.
domromer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The X Files ones were silent. Man the ones that made noise on other shows were really annoying though!
IlllIlllI ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:45:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now it's there to show you how badly compressed your torrented HBO show is.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ha ha.. i noticed that
ArrakeenSun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:34:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never mind the fact that kids these days have no idea that "HBO" literally stands for something
ascii122 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:40:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A box office is where gen Xers went to work. Also called 'cube farm'
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:55:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why is it there?
ascii122 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:59:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in ancient times static was what you saw when you tuned (there is another one ...tuned) to a channel with no broadcast on it.
Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt3JxA94ZAI
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:44:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i know that but why is it part of the HBO intro?
ascii122 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:55:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
who knows. It's a nod to the old days maybe. Even when it starts you can see a tube TV effect where the screen pops in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agS6ZXBrcng
nairebis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:39:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you first turned on an old TV, the tubes would have to warm up. So often you'd get that static before it locked into the channel. Note that at the very beginning of the HBO intro, you see it start as a line that grows into the picture. That's what it looked like as the tubes warmed up and got going. And the HBO outro, it shows the TV turning off and a dying signal on the CRT as the capacitors discharged.
In the old days, it could actually take a full minute for a TV to (literally) warm up and start working, though the HBO intro shows a more "modern" TV where it just took a few seconds.
Euchre ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:48:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Forget just the static - I recently had a conversation with a customer who complained that a TV took 13-17 seconds to turn on, due to the boot up process of being a digital, smart TV. You're thinking I'm talking about whiny millennials, right? Nope - old folks, 65+. I had to say it was funny how we've gotten spoiled by technology over time, as CRTs grew capacitors to make them become 'instant on' displays, because before that you had to wait for a CRT to 'warm up' to show a full, bright image. When I was very little, I remember this - and they were old enough to remember it well.
MikeFichera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah i remember how they'd be dark for a bit.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny. Kids these days and their slow TVs WFT?
Cosmic-Engine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know if this is relevant, or honestly even how correct it is, but that static is a binary representation of data - ones and zeroes are whites and blacks, respectively.
When old-as-hell computers would crash, they would perform a binary data-dump and flash the contents of memory on-screen in what was called a โsnow crash.โ
(Static used to be called โsnowโ)
In a book by that name (Snowcrash by Neal Stephenson) the author imagines a future in which programmers have become so familiar with speaking in machine languages, and computer interfaces have become so common and direct into the mind, that a personโs brain can be โhackedโ IRL if theyโre shown a bitmap of static in a certain arrangement inside of what he imagined the internet would be. He conceived of it as being a VR instance which was populated with avatars. (edit - Iโve read somewhere that this was one of, if not the first, instances of the idea of a representation of the user in computational space as an โavatar.โ)
This book is from the late eighties / early nineties, and it is way ahead of its time. I still use a lot of words and concepts from it - the tablet Iโm writing this from is called โinfocalypseโ after another piece of code from the narrative. I felt pretty clever about this because ancient Babylonian tablets figure prominently into the storyline, as he suggests that these tablets contained โcodeโ in the form of a basic, universal human language that was processed below the conscious level.
So, my โtabletโ is something like the tablets that the first writing was recorded on. Full. Fuckinโ. Circle.
Iโm constantly amazed by this kind of thing. Maybe itโs just a childish sense of wonder, but I think itโs really cool.
Anyway, anyone who hasnโt read the book should really give it a look. Itโs lots of fun.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dig all of Neil Stephenson .. some of the books can do your head in though. It is funny that the first line of Snow Crash has 'telephone book' in it https://genius.com/Neal-stephenson-snow-crash-chapter-one-annotated
ereldar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you read the forward in the 20th anniversary edition of Neuromancer, William Gibson describes how he thinks people miss out on his description of the Chiba sky as the color of a TV tuned to an off the air channel. No one sees static anymore. He was worried that his descriptions have lost their effect over time.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's funny. The first line of Snow Crash has a similar archaic reference: telephone books
jacka_poppa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought my family was the coolest because of our โscramblerโ
xiaodown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, over analog it looks fine but when it gets compressed for modern broadcasting it looks blocky and shitty.
shokalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was watching Stranger Things, and there are points in that where they show TVs that are just showing static, but it's clearly an effect. It doesn't look how real TV static should look.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an old tube tv. Maybe i'll fire that thing up and let the static rip
shokalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have two out in my garage a 14 inch and a 24 inch. The idea is, eventually, to get them set up and in use for old gaming. You can't beat vintage console gaming on a TV of the time.
Plus the old light gun games work properly on them.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cool. I have an AC/DC one from way back in the day. it's about 16 inch? It still works even on 12vDC
shokalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did have an really old like five inch maybe black and white one that had a DC input. Unfortunately I don't think it works any more, and even if it did, it only has RF input so it's a bit of a faff to get a modern signal into it.
ascii122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh yeah. I'm so far out in the boonies I don't have over the air signals.. so I'm stuck with satellite or nothing. edit: but it still has coax out so no problemo
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm 20 and I remember that static. The only generation that doesn't is the latest one and even they probably know it from old school TV's.
[deleted] ยท 478 points ยท Posted at 19:45:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Sky_Haussman ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 20:29:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, in the UK the pound (ยฃ) refers to a pound of sterling silver (UK currency is often referred as sterling) but hasn't been related to the value of sterling silver for many years.
LotusPrince ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:32:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's also the expression "penny wise and pound foolish." I live in the United States, so I had no idea what pounds had to do with pennies - I thought they were referring to weight. :-P
pomegranate2012 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:46:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's a 'penny' in America? I sometimes hear Americans talk about 'saving pennies', does it mean one cent?
Jake_Thador ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:40:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We Canadians abolished the penny a few years ago. Our smallest unit of physical money is the nickel (5ยข). Businesses no longer accept pennies (but the bank will exchange them for you).
If you are paying cash and the total comes to $4.63 or $4.64, you pay $4.65. If the total is $4.61 or $4.62, you pay $4.60. It's rounded to the nearest nickel. If you're paying by debit or credit, you pay the exact amount.
brownsquared ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this was thought up to do here in the US as well but was probably held up legally somehow.
LynnisaMystery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe every time they bring it up, the penny fans become extremely vocal and it ends up being unfavorable for congressmen to push for it as it disrupts their voter base.
brownsquared ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured it was copper people funneling funds to Congress
LotusPrince ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:58:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's one cent. A penny is the smallest unit of currency - one hundredth of a dollar.
SheeEttin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:43:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which comes from the Latin "centum", for hundred. From which we also get century and percent (literally per hundred).
LotusPrince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep! I knew that "cent" = 100, but I didn't realize "centum." Thanks for the information. :)
FiggyDiggz ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:00:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Y'all got poutine in Korea?
PoutineFest ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:02:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It ainโt the same, but we do what we can.
FiggyDiggz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:11:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear ya. I live in the desert of Arizona in the american southwest, can't get good fish n' chips anywhere out here.
lumaga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ํธํด? Or is it something different?
Eurynom0s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll give you some poutine for your poon.
caffeine_lights ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:45:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's like a really old currency in Germany was the Thaler. (Precursor BTW to the word dollar). They changed the spelling to Taler before they changed to Deutschmarks, but any small round flat item, particularly confectionery, is commonly referred to as a Taler.
katflace ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:25:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the way that when the Deutsche Mark was still a thing, people would frequently refer to 10 Pfennig coins as a "Groschen". That's the name of a coin that hasn't been around since the 19th century...
PseudonymIncognito ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When Austria still had the Schilling, there were technically 100 Groschen to the Schilling but almost no one ever denominated prices in it (I actually managed to see a 10 Groschen coin when I was there, it was made of aluminum and worth less than a cent).
ky0nshi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:00:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
older people still use Groschen as a word, now for ten cents.
H_C_Sunshine ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 22:43:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask Bill Clinton. He knows where to find some poon.
ps3hubbards ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:34:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the topic of other languages 'konnichiwa' doesn't originally mean 'hello' or 'good day' in Japanese. I recognise it as 'kon' (this), 'nichi' (day), wa (grammar particle marking the topic), but didn't think about it as a cut-off sentence. Japanese friend told me it's short for "Have you eaten your rice this day?" even though people don't expect everyone else to necessarily have eaten rice for breakfast (or maybe lunch). Apparently most Japanese don't realise this so it's funny for me to know as a white dude.
This is as close to literally 'every day' (as stated in the question) that I think anyone could achieve.
brehvgc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're trolling or your friend was trolling you
ps3hubbards ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:13:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Just checked and looks like it could be a variety of phrases, all starting the same. Wikitionary gives examples of "How are you feeling today?" and "Good weather today isn't it?" So okay, rice isn't the full answer but it fits in the 'genre' and the point remains the same; 'konnichiwa' is just a truncated question. Link is in Japanese.
brehvgc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:29:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not denying that it's a cutoff sentence, but neither of those are tied to eating rice.
ps3hubbards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:43:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the point he made to me was that because rice was such a staple food, asking someone whether they'd eaten rice/a meal (gohan) would in the past have given a clear answer as to whether or not the person was okay/well, in the vein of 'How are you?' So in context, they're similar that way. Does that make sense?
Muffin278 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:34:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Korean and Japanese, the word rice often means meal. Have you eaten dinner= have you eaten evening rice
789456123hh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
actually, that person is probably correct, in Cantonese , many chinese people when greeting , will ask "have you eaten rice yet" or ,Sik Cho (Eaten) Fan (Rice) Mei Aa (Yet).
Zenblend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK, time to eat some rice
brehvgc ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:01:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cantonese is not Japanese, but good to know
SassyMoron ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:46:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in English people sometimes use "sou" in this way, which was the old french word for a cent/penny.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:58:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a brass farthing.
InformationMagpie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:37:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mostly only see it in crosswords puzzles now.
dotlinefever3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:46:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in english, 'she didnt give me poon' has a totally different meaning.
Lobstarbudy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
pjjmd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, the poon is still used to describe fractions of a won in the currency exchange market, isn't it?
Alx1775 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sugar, Mr Poon?
So, what kind of a name is Poon, anyway?
Comanche Indian.
BabeRyuth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
์..์๋ฆ..๋ชฐ๋์
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You eat poutine in Korea?
linksfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Japanese, the counter word for birds, ็พฝ, is also used for rabbits, apparently due to at one time the shogun or a lord declaring that rabbits were his, so people started passing off skinned rabbits as plucked birds
Francetto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Germany, and especially Austria, where it was the"cent" until the Euro was introduced, the term "der GROSCHEN ist gefallen", is still heavily used (means, you finally understand something or you sort something out)
to_omoimasu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Won is money in Korea, in Japan itโs the sound a dog makes
beardbrazil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing in Brazil! We say "nem um tostรฃo" to signify the same thing even though a "tostรฃo" was used as currency in the 1800s...
artsytartsy23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my dad's favorite sayings is, "busier than a two bit whore on nickel night."
A bit is an eighth of a dollar, so two bits would be equal to 25ยข.
notmesmerize ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:45:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heh, poon
Irishzombieman ยท 6094 points ยท Posted at 16:30:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still refer to the ENTER key as the RETURN key. My kids' response: "Dad needs to RETURN to the here and now."
brotoes ยท 1171 points ยท Posted at 17:03:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you must return to the future!
[deleted] ยท 622 points ยท Posted at 17:52:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No Marty! It's your kids!
ahaus101m ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 18:03:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great Scott!
Khourieat ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:21:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brad?
axemaster72 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:45:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ASSHOLE
Edit: Guess we're not up and up on Rocky Horror callouts
LoneRangerLong ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who's going to beam me up?
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:28:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? Are they assholes or something?
omart3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:15:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but there is one about to become president!
cowboydirtydan ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:50:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your daughter married a black man Marty!
Gnorris ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:19:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's... I'm not comfortable hanging out with you anymore, Doc.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:14:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Purplociraptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah jeez, Rick. Is.. is she at least... ya know... Is she happy at least? Aw man.
brtt150 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:02:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doc, you're not gonna believe it. We have to go back to 1955!
Jmscrvnts ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:19:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont believe it!
Kidbeast ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:13:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ต๐ต๐ตDuuu dooo duuuuuuu du du duuuu dooo duuuu ๐ต๐ต๐ต
Purplociraptor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:08:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now quickly, get into the time machine or we will be late for something that won't happen for 30 years.
Sambiches ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
your daughter! she marries a black man!
COJamesHetfield ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They get devoured by undead squids!
Rahgahnah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something's gotta be done about your kids!
slipstream42 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:35:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Return to the Future, the shitty Chinese knock off, starring Marty McCoolKid and Doctor Great Scott
coreanavenger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Return the Dragon!
rbsanford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
R-r-r-re-re-turn the m-m-map-p-p!
AfroNinjaNation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Return to the past now.
juanzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, let him give us the meme calendar of 42069 before he goes. We're so close to knowing!
cowboydirtydan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:49:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MAAAARTYYYY
ravenQ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:07:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Return in black, I hit Caps Lock!
It's been too long I'm glad to be back[space],
hardinmathclass ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:11:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Escape*
foomp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:40:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He must back forward to the future!
etihw_retsim ยท 732 points ยท Posted at 17:17:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It still returns the cursor to the beginning of the line; I'd say it's still applicable.
NotClever ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 20:05:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which function in a word processor is still called a "carriage return."
The_Dirty_Carl ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:47:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every line in every Windows file ends in a "carriage return" character followed by a "line feed" character. If you're on Windows, the Enter key is in fact a Carriage Return key.
https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-great-newline-schism/
kurashu89 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:34:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't even get me started on line endings. I'm a Linux guy using a Mac in a Windows shop.
Half my life revolves around "CRLF will be replaced with LF on crying.gif"
Which, ignoring the actual file name is a thing that happened. git changed the line ending in a gif because someone had forced it to commit with CRLFs.
Another fun aspect of my life is Unicode errors because half the applications are in Python 2 and "Fucking unicode, how does it work?"
/grognard
ifly6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How dare you insult Python! Python is the best! Guido can do no wrong! rabble rabble rabble /s
kurashu89 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:03:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like Python, but I'll be the first to throw some stones at it.
Python 2 is a train wreck and the language is lucky to have survived it:
stris bytes and unicode is...well, broken as shit unless you play unicode whackamole withencode/decodeall over because even though you try to be a good dev and decode/encode on IO boundaries, there's always that one library that's just "lol fuk u m8"1 < {} < [] < set() < "" < ()LMFAOclass Foovsclass Foo(object)And then fun stuff like:
Dumb syntax:
except ValueError, e:print >> fh, "stuff"with(although, fixed in 2.7)Now, given all of these were fixed in various 3.X releases, but there are still issues:
Threading is a joke in CPython because of the GIL. People cross their fingers and hope it'll be slain one day but I have no hopes of that. asyncio is a decent replacement, but there's not a good way to do CPU intensive operations in a background thread. You need to use the multiprocessing library (or the
concurrent.futures.ProcessPoolExecutoras an abstration) but that comes with the limitation that objects passing process boundaries needed be pickleable. Or something more heavy weight like Celery that offer different serialization formats but also end up requiring a broker such as redis.I go back and forth on the whole "lambda must be a single expression" thing.
Python's biggest strength is its biggest weakness: Everything is so dynamic that even what type an object thinks it is can change under your feet:
I could go on, but I just feel like I'm an angry husband yelling at my wife because I'm actually mad at some dumb shit someone else did at this point. :(
I'm sorry Python, I love you.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:25:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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kurashu89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what that is like at all. It's:
Except the list comp should have its own, nested scope. It does in Python 3, meaning it ends up looking like:
Which is more in line with what I expect.
gsfgf ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:25:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Word, paragraph (ยถ) and carriage return (โ) are different things. Shift+Enter will go to the next line but not start a new paragraph. This is useful if you're formatting with styles like you should but you need a new line for whatever reason.
DanYHKim ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:31:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's called a "newline" in the old MS Word manual, I think. I use it a lot when I need to insert a blank line in a paragraph formatted for auto-numbering or bullets.
Pro Tip: When you do it, don't tell others how it's done. The others in your office will think you're some kind of wizard.
arbyq5000 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:22:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i vividly recall using a commodore 64 with my grandfather and he would call the button "carriage return" i can hear his voice saying it
bishopsanspants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can hear the bell and carriage sliding in mine.
Alis451 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:11:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
\r\n
Carriage Return, New Line
Carriage Return, just returned to the beginning, not make a new line too, that is still technically a separate key. The key on windows does both.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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The_Dirty_Carl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The order is correct and it does matter.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ouyawei ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:20:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can not erase a line on a typewriter.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Alis451 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:56:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
technically \n is LF -> Line Feed, and that is a printer command
The reason why order matters
Windows In Particular uses CR+LF or \r\n in that order specifically.
ouyawei ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but the carriage return and new line commands originate from the Teletype which would print on actual paper - no way to erase a line there.
Neil_sm ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:50:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It says "Return" on my apple usb keyboard too.
Dungarth ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:36:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In most modern word processing software, hitting [enter] doesn't only imply a carriage return, it also includes a paragraph change (ยถ). If you use [shift+enter], it will act as a regular carriage return (โต) and not count as a new paragraph.
RiceBaker100 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:40:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just made me realize why the enter key symbol is a bent arrow.
pyrrhios ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 19:10:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just because of WYSIWYG being more prevalent in UI development these days.
1-00 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 19:30:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RadarLakeKosh ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:30:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WYSIWYG: What You See Is What You Get.
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:40:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wizzy wig
UmerHasIt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:46:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bless you
SJHillman ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:03:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But unlike typewriters, that's far from its only (or arguably even main) function on computers.
flaunteneer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:01:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did (non-electronic) typewriters even have a return/enter key? They had a line feed handle that could also be used to return the carriage (and both those actions are still part of the control codes in ASCII and UTF-8), but I'm not sure if there ever was a new line key.
yzRPhu ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it moves the paper a line down but you have to move the paper physically to the beginning of the line.
Samazonison ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:28:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as I know, only electric typewriters have a return key. We had one during the 80's, and so I also called the enter button the return key for a long time.
crimeo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I collect mechanical only typewriters, and no, I've never seen a return key. Only for ones where electricity was available to return the carriage without muscle.
DanYHKim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manual typewriters have a lever on the left side that you sweep your hand to push. Watch a video of someone using a typewriter. As you type, you will approach the right edge of the page. You will have to account for your margin, and estimate if you have enough space to type in the next complete word, or if you can fit in a hyphenated word fragment. Your typewriter will have a spring-loaded bell that will chime when you approach the right edge of the paper.
When you have run out of usable space before the margin, you use your hand to push against the lever, which will advance the carriage (giving you a new line to type on) while you push the carriage across to place the strike target at the left margin of the paper.
This resulted in a characteristic sound of typing: the clatter of keys being pressed and typebars striking the inked ribbon, eventually followed by the chime indicating the end of the line, and then the clunk and ratchet sound of the return lever being swept across, followed by the resumption of the typing sound.
Watch Liberace performing Leroy Anderson's "Typewriter Song".
mrs_shrew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:18:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me more!
PM_ME_YOUR_BIG_LOAD ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:54:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use it to go to the next line in a document, or to return to the left side of the document. I use it to input a web search, or to enter my search terms.
I use it as the confirm button on dialogue windows, or to enter my selection. I use it as the confirm key in video games as well. That's already 3 for "enter" and 1 for "return"
brandonhardyy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2012 MacBook Pro's keyboard says "return" in large letters and "enter" is slightly smaller.
-all_hail_britannia- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was a carrage return, no?
5redrb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're editing text it makes sense that way.
READERmii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So THAT'S why it's also called return
masterofthefork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It more often returns the curser than it ever enters into the line, whatever that means.
[deleted] ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 17:33:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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0x564A00 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:12:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
German keyboards have qwertz instead of qwerty. For old software that meant I had to press Z instead of Y when asked for confirmation. Despite very rarely using software that isn't aware of my key layout I somehow press Z when asked to answer with y/n.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 18:56:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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robisodd ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:39:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fire [Z] missiles!
ThatLexxyFellow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:12:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I am le tired
robisodd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, have a nap, then fire z missiles!!!
Eternity_Incarnate ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:00:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
fubo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:51:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keyboards don't directly generate the code for a particular letter, number, or symbol. They generate "scan codes" that indicate when a key is pressed or released. The computer's keyboard driver interprets these according to a particular configured layout.
The Z key on a German-labeled keyboard generates the same scan code as the Y key on an English-labeled keyboard. That's why without a driver that knows about the German layout, you get a Y there.
mrs_shrew ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:19:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Errr mine is still like that so this thread doesn't really make much sense
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:13:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the full mac keyboard is like that, "return" near the keys but if you have the full keyboard with a number pad it has a "enter" key there
Mikuro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Macs still work that way, and the two keys are slightly different. On keyboards without the numpad, fn-Return acts as Enter.
Aqwardturtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean you can still get keyboards like that today. My Das Keyboard has that exact layout.
binaryeye ยท 365 points ยท Posted at 17:25:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mac keyboards still have the button correctly labeled.
[deleted] ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 18:18:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even on my iPhone.
somewhat_funny ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 21:12:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the angry imgur comments on your picture
DavidPH ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 21:58:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol I forget imgur is an actual community. For me it'll always just be where i upload random screenshots.
morehumblethanyou ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:29:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As it should be.
LordOfTheInterweb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:25:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That picture is worth ~60+ upvotes on Reddit and -3 points on Imgur. Interesting.
OhAces ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:07:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My new MBP has both words written on it
musics_smarts_laughs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:25:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My new MBP doesn't. Hmm.
OhAces ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
strange, mine has return in big letter bottom right and enter in small letter top right
musics_smarts_laughs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:14:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Mine's a 2017 and it only has 'return' on the bottom right
TransitRanger_327 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:25:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Pre-C MBPs have both, Post-C ones must not have both.
Bepus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm on a Post-C MBP and it has both. It's not the touch bar model, FWIW.
rumhee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:35:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It varies by country. Some keyboards have it, some donโt.
TransitRanger_327 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:56:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That seems inefficient for them to make two different keys for the same model.
IceMountainWater3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fall 2016 MBP non-touchbar. I have "return" in larger letters than "enter"
OhAces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine is only a month old, but it appears to be a 2016 on further inspection.
PointyOintment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine has that too. Mid-2012. I thought it was only on MacBooks with the number pad layer on the keyboard (like my old white MacBook) where you use either the fn key or the num lock key to get a virtual number pad in the middle of the keyboard, but I guess not.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:17:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I took a quick look at my MacBook keyboard and the key is labelled as both, but enter is in slightly smaller type.
Dude just needs to make his kids Mac-users.
Retbull ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:23:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carriage return line feed.
edit: fail
flaunteneer ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:05:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.
mr_ewe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good ol CRLF.
THAT TAKES ME BACK. ๐
oddark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still the native "new line" on windows today
Retbull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah lol I work all in osx and linux.
ipad_kid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, it's still
\r\non both Linux and macOS (and iOS)Retbull ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's /n
livemau5 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:05:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Incorrectly* labeled.
werewolfbarmitzvah69 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:17:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Return and Enter do two separate functions for typesetters.
Shift+Return is a soft return, meant for line breaks in long paragraphs of text. These are to shift a word to the next line so it reads or flows better.
Return is a hard return, meant to signify the end of a paragraph.
Enter is used to move the text to the next column, or page.
Megatron_McLargeHuge ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:23:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the other hand, Mac uses unix line endings in text files, just a newline "\n", while Windows puts a carriage return and a line feed, "\r\n". The Mac return key doesn't actually create a carriage return character.
Retbull ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:26:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you are using confluence which for SOME FUCKING REASON INSISTS ON BEING THE ONLY PEOPLE ON THE PLANET WHO USE IT "CORRECTLY"
wfaulk ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:51:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prior to Mac OS X, Mac text files' lines ended with just "\r". You'll still occasionally run across such text files.
Kered13 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:53:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In college a friend of mine got an assignment from a professor that he wasn't able to open correctly in any text editor. It was readable but newlines weren't printing correctly. When I looked at it I recognized that it had \r newlines (most editors will handle either Unix or Windows newlines fine, not all of them are written to handle old Mac newlines). This would have been around 2008 or 2009, so OS X had been out for a long time.
wfaulk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:08:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, there were utilities that used old-school Mac text encoding long after Mac OS X came out, including, IIRC, some of the stock Mac OS utilities. I can't think of any that are still like that. (I just checked TextEdit, and it uses bare newlines, even when saving in MacRoman encoding.) FWIW, you can get vim to both save and detect Mac line separators by setting fileformat and fileformats, respectively.
japes28 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:26:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is really interesting because my Mac's key says both:
while it only does one.
Mikuro ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:45:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The top one is the secondary function of the key. So you hit fn-Return to get Enter. It still doesn't do that, though.
SuperSVGA ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:03:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They probably just put it there to prevent people from being told to press enter and not being able to find it.
DrippyWaffler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I was going to say the same thing...
/s
mcaustic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It did, until Steve Jobs took over Apple again and replaced Mac OS with Mac OS X.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ran4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Type
\^mto write ^mNSNick ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:50:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So these two lines are
separated by a soft return?
And this third line is separated by a hard return?
werewolfbarmitzvah69 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:10:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here is a decent example. Problem is it's all in gibberish (lorem ipsum, a typography placeholder).
1 is a hard return (Return key on your keyboard). It's the end of the paragraph. This example has "space after" defined, so it automatically adds some white space after that hard return character, the red backward mark.
2 is a soft return (Shift + Return). The word "nulpute" could easily fit in the line before, but it reads better on the next line, or it squeezes the text too much if justified.
3 is a column break (the enter key on the number pad on your keyboard). It moves the text to the next page or column.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:27:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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werewolfbarmitzvah69 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:29:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All the designers I know call it Lorem ipsum. I haven't heard anyone call it greek text. Isn't it latin-based?
cream-of-cow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:22:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the Mac extended keyboard, the return key is with the letters and the enter key is on the bottom right of the numeric keypad.
causalNondeterminism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but also lack the insert button.
WaffleGsus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, I'm on a late 2011 MBP with a USB keyboard, the one on the laptop has both "enter" and "return" but the USB keyboard only has "return". I wonder what changed
propanololololol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine says both
abusmakk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:06:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve had a macbook for nine years. Never realised this and felt pretty dumb. Had to go and check, as I was on my phone when I read it. Thankfully my macbook didnโt say return. It was just the symbol.
XtremeCookie ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also have the backspace button labeled improperly
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:22:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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XtremeCookie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
However, it still deviates from the standard usage of the "delete" key.
Wikipediea
caper72 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:35:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PC
Backspace: remove the character to the left of the cursor.
Delete: remove the character the cursor is on.
Mac
Delete: acts like the PC backspace.
And that's not even the dumbest thing about a mac keyboard. The power button is right above the
backs...delete key. So, at some point you're going to accidentally hit the power button.... leaving you thinking "why did my laptop just shutdown?"[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:02:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That power button doesnโt automatically shut down the MacBook though. Iโve accidentally hit it a bunch of times.
caper72 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:04:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It shut down for me once. Other times it didn't do anything.
edit: i'm not lying about the shutdown. just fyi. Yes, I've accidentally hit it a bunch of times and it only ever shutdown once. It's still a poor spot to put it.
Aqwardturtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
only if you hold it down for like 10 seconds.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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caper72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That does make sense and good to know. I'm a touch typist and used to keys being in certain spots. So, when something is different it can be annoying. like the internet search is command-option-f whereas in windows/linux it's ctrl-k.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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caper72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is Awesome Bar a thing or are you just referring to the Location Bar? And yes, I realize cmd-L goes to the location bar and will do a search if it's not a url.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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caper72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I may have forgotten about that. i've always just called it the location bar and this is the first time (that I recall) I've heard it referred to as awesome bar. Been browsing the web since mozaic and netscape days.
draginator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The power key, just like the caps lock key, does not engage due to accidental short press unlike windows machines with the same keyboard layout.
dailyqt ยท -33 points ยท Posted at 18:23:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that you're citing Macs makes your case weaker, imho
Edit: Okay but seriously you guys, it was a joke. Also, the only reason most people ever use enter to invoke a carriage return is writing E-mails or posting on social media. URLs, filling out forms, leaving comments, entering information, emulation and coding are all cases in which enter is used to enter a command or information.
binaryeye ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:28:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps you can cite some data on how often the key is used to invoke a carriage return vs. how often the key is used to enter a command.
dailyqt ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:08:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about the rest of the civilized world, but the only time I use the enter key to invoke a carriage return is pretty much when I'm on reddit or possibly posting something on facebook.
For literally everything else, I use it to enter information. Whether I'm filling out forms, creating accounts, typing a URL, sending a message or leaving a comment, hell even when I use it in emulating. Nine times out of ten it's to enter information or a command.
Edit: Please debate instead of downvoting, good lord
SuperSVGA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Google Docs, Microsoft Word, LibreOffice Writer, OpenOffice Writer, Google Slides, Microsoft PowerPoint, Microsoft Outlook, Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Notepad, Notepad++, Atom, Visual Studio, Dreamweaver, Adobe InDesign, VIM, Emacs, Pine...
I could go on.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are all variations of writing tools. I would list all of the apps/programs that involve using it to enter information, but I don't think anyone has that kind of time lmao.
SuperSVGA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What job do you have where you don't write? It's become a basic requirement for every job around here.
dailyqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:35:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've written a single E-mail(Actually now that I think of it I send about a dozen one sentence E-mails a day) since I got hired about 4 months ago. Most of the jobs in my city are with call centers, so here I am.
SuperSVGA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, I guess a call center could get by with one line fields but it sounds a bit odd for most applications. Usually internal notes are paragraph fields.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What jobs, besides creative/freelance, actually do require writing beyond E-mails?
SuperSVGA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only tasks that are coming to my mind at the moment are things like writing notes, writing up a report, making a sign (e.g. I make some instructions or information and staple it to the wall), writing resumes and cover letters (important for getting the job), and probably more that I can't think of at the moment. Depending on the job, some might be things you do frequently and some might be things you don't do very often (writing an incident report for example).
The jobs that involve those kinds of tasks are numerous. The only jobs I know of around here that don't require writing skills are jobs that don't seem to expect or require you to have much communication skills at all (fast food for example).
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I think that every job has those things, but using enter to input information is something that everyone does hundreds of times a day whether or not they even have a job, on nearly every single app/program.
SuperSVGA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but keyboards were based off typewriters and the function of the typewriter was to write, not quite input information. The word is still used although in some cases it has different meaning.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that literally just saying that "return" is outdated? I know it used to be accurate, but it really isn't that accurate anymore.
SuperSVGA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that would be the subject of the main post.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:45:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, I'm usually kind of a stickler, I'm so embarrassed Edit: wait what the fuck, your is correct :P
erik29gamer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, no its not.
ivievine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it is, itโs a gerund.
dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yes. It makes you are case weaker. Looks good!
erik29gamer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:26:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except it was originally posted as:
"The fact that your siting Macs makes your case weaker, imho"
and I was referring to the first "your".
You first fixed the spelling mistake and said that "your" is still correct, made a snarky response, then realized it was still wrong and edited it again.
dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I had no idea that you cared so much about my every move. It's flattering I guess
DrippyWaffler ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it is. "You're" is "you are".
You're wrong.
erik29gamer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:22:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except it was originally posted as:
"The fact that your siting Macs makes your case weaker, imho"
and I (and /u/theniceguytroll ) was referring to the first "your".
DrippyWaffler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah fair enough, you ninja editing trickster /u/dailyqt!
tylenol1234 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:54:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because Macintoshes are "pretend" computers with no industry uses, and people with real jobs use PCs, right?
Maybe consider that you're the one stuck in 2005?
dailyqt ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 19:00:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever actually used a Mac? Granted they're better for things like music/video editing, but for nearly any other purpose they're just not as good. For the price of one you can make your own really good PC. Also, fuck Apple for like, dozens of reasons.
vorpal_username ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:09:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I prefer them to windows for doing any sort of programming (except writing windows desktop applications I guess). The reason is that OSX is actually a flavor of BSD which is basically unix (which is basically linux). This means that if you do any work in the terminal (and if you're writing code you probably want to be) then OSX is going to be more useful.
That being said I totally agree that Apple is a horrible company and fuck them.
theidleidol ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:32:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Small nitpick, OS X/macOS is actually a UNIX, despite BSD and Linux not being so certified.
vorpal_username ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So basically AND actually. :)
Seriously though that's a good point, which I will admit to not knowing.
dailyqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:11:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for being civil haha. I didn't realize that, I've only done coding on a PC.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:38:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dailyqt ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: Computers are literally only used for coding and literally nothing else
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:42:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See it's funny because although I'm not going to claim to be some coding master, I'm definitely not computer illiterate lmfao. I do plan on making my own PC when I'm not poor as fuck.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:21:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God you have a superiority complex. Computer illiterate means, to most people, that you can't make simple fixes on your own computer. Please get off of your high horse before you fall xx
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:29:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dailyqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:46:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup you definitely got that right.
Oops, sorry for not asking you first, because it's too late
tylenol1234 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:43:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh? I've used a Mac for the past five years. I studied computer engineering. Never once was there software I couldn't use. UNIX is just better for programming applications.
name one
dailyqt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:17:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely not browsing the internet, seeing as that's literally all that the Mac users I know do with their glorified laptops lmao.
tylenol1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright, but Chrome and Firefox have 75% of the market share and those are cross platform browsers
You should try to meet more people
I admit that my laptop is a laptop
TBoneTheOriginal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:28:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Macs can literally do anything a Windows machine can do. And I mean "literally" in the literal sense. Including run Windows if you really need it for some reason.
Music/video isn't "better" on a Mac just like nothing else is "better" on Windows. They're just different UIs with some pros and cons mixed in. For example, if swapping parts, having a wider range of choices, or integrating with the Microsoft ecosystem is your thing, get a Windows machine. If never dealing with subsidized software out-of-the-box, not dealing with the higher risk of virus attacks, or integrating into the Apple ecosystem is your thing, get a Mac.
Hell, sometimes it just comes down to people preferring a UI design over the other.
This isn't 2005 anymore. That argument died a long time ago. So I guess I'll ask you the same question. Have you ever actually used a Mac?
dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I've used them a few times. I don't own one, but yeah, I've used them. It just feels like a shitty Windows.
DISCLAIMER: I'm not claiming to be an expert in the area, honestly I only really dislike the operating system. And Apple, but who does like them anyway?
TBoneTheOriginal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:10:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By replacing every pro of a Mac with childish insults, you've essentially agreed with me that it's "personal preference". But of course you did it in the stupidest way you could possibly come up with.
Who likes Apple anyway? Only like hundreds of millions of people. But whatever.
It's pretty clear you're either incredibly immature or just trolling. Maybe both. Later.
dailyqt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know what? You're right. I'm going to convert to Apple. They're such a benevolent company. But yeah, later.
chrismusaf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I missed the part where he told you to convert. Just buy what you want and be happy with it. Don't be a dick about it.
Hdmoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you? By the way "PC" means personal computer, so it's really a silly way to talk about Windows vs MacOS.
Your arguments remind me of myself in junior high, so I'll indulge you. Why are Macs "better" for music/video editing? Is it because of the software, like Garage Band? The truth is, video editing and music production need strong hardware, which every Mac lacks to some degree, up to the Mac Pro.
So with that myth covered, why do people use Macs? There's a few reasons. Most importantly, I suspect, is that it's a unix system! Once you get to know Unix (or variants), you'll understand why it's so much more powerful than Windows NT. Second, we've got the ecosystem. Sync your iPhone, iPad, iWatch, whatever, it "just works". The default apps are really nice. iMessage, FaceTime, Notes, etc, and with all that there's ease of use. And finally for Macbooks, portability/power is king.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While these are all fine and dandy, can I just point out
all for the small price of $4000
Also, while I commend people that actually use it for its pros, the fact is that most people just use them for browsing the internet.
Hdmoney ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're fairly expensive, but that's an extreme exaggeration. The cost of a laptop isn't that much in the grand scheme of things, and if you want to shell out an extra couple hundred for a better user experience, then that's fine. For example, I've put over $150 into just my keyboard, and I couldn't be happier with it. It doesn't have built-in macros, it doesn't have a number pad, and it doesn't have RGB. Despite all that, it's better for me than any similarly priced product with those features.
That's what everyone uses computers for, really. That's a non-argument from the start. Some people do work that needs strong hardware. Some people don't. What's important to both groups, is user experience.
Edit: I realized this point was a bit weak, so I'd like to iterate on that: I'd be willing to bet that that's what you do on your computer most of the time. For some reason though, you're upset that other people do that on Macs, because they're more expensive? Because you could build a better PC for the price? But most people on Macs are on MacBooks, and MacBook Airs at that. And you're right that a lot of people don't need the power that a Mac supplies, but the obvious counter-argument is ecosystem, portability, and UX. There's not a lot of competition there. Whether you like or can appreciate that is your own (albeit baseless) opinion.
I'd like to say at this point that, no, I never have, and likely never will use a Mac. I'm an avid Linux user.
I've since read your other comments, and I'd like to talk about them.
To me, this reads as "it's an operating system and I don't know how to use it." If you want to be "computer literate" like you say you are, you should learn Unix(-like) systems. That's all I really have to say about that.
Please tell me you're not anywhere near code.
So, you really, really don't like Apple. But you're A-OK with Microsoft? I understand a lot of the problems with both companies, so I'd like to ask, what makes Apple worse than Microsoft? In my eyes, MS is the worse of the two, but I could be swayed.
Hit me.
dailyqt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, I've already said, like, dozens of times that I'm not an expert. You really don't need my permission to use a Mac, I promise. Bc I'm on mobile, I'll just respond to the points I can remember(don't really wanna go back and forth, y'know?)
1) For all of the things you listed, $4000 is modest lmao.
2) fuck it you can pay a thousand dollars to browse the internet, I suppose.
3) The computers at my last job we're all Linux. God I hated that job for a million reasons, but I reeaaaally disliked that goddamn operating system. To be fair, the computer in question was also an age-old Compaq, my monitor had to be from 2010, and I was only allowed to use Yahoo search.
4) God I'm so sorry for offending you, but I took a video game design class a while ago. 10/10 would take again if I had money.
5) Honestly, I don't even know that much about Microsoft, except that they're losing relevance, gaming-wise. Not great, not terrible. You might know more about them than I do. Apple is just so obviously immoral as fuck. Their products expire pretty much as soon as the next gen is scheduled to come out, their phones are like five years behind Androids, and the fucking headphone jack? They're like EA but with real life things. I shutter to think of how much debt they have floating over their customers.
Hdmoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then don't tout about the inferiority of products you know nothing about?
I don't use one, nor do I ever plan on it. If I do need to use MacOS, I can use a VM.
And no, I'm not offended. I'm just really not a fan of ignorance and the spread of misinformation.
CrushyOfTheSeas ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:41:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but they have the backspace key mislabeled.
draginator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it's the button I use to delete things, the button I use to go back a space is the left arrow key.
Cuchullion ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:35:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I blew my mom's mind when I explained they were called 'return' on older keyboards because it stood in for the 'carriage return' on typewriters.
And that it found a home again in computer science terminology to refer to basically the same thing (though 'new line' is more common now, so I guess 'carriage return' is going out of style there too)
Rashaya ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:46:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows still uses \r\n rather than just \n, where \r is a carriage return and \n is a newline.
Cuchullion ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:00:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first job involved writing code in a Windows environment (and saving to a Windows file system) but running it on a Unix one.
The difference between /r/n and /n were the stuff of nightmares.
POGtastic ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:25:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank God for
clang-format,dos2unix, and Git's settings of choosing one or the other. The Good Old Days of programming were a dark age.theidleidol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I spent a solid week of my summer sorting out a codebase with mixed line endings and indentation styles. It was such a clusterfuck that git/linters couldnโt even handle it until I manually fixed a bunch of files.
try_____another ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs impressive that it was bad enough that even a prettifier couldnโt make it better but people could still compile the changes.
theidleidol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it wasnโt like prettifiers didnโt work at all, it was that they were fighting each other. There was no style guide before I arrived.
BeardedGingerWonder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh lord dos2unix is an absolute lifesaver. Every grad intake at work there's a wave of broken bash scripts released to production and dos2unix gets its annual field trip.
EverybodyLikesSteak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/bin/bash^M : bad interpreter
XoXFaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
has thrown me for a loop before, usually trying to match regex.
try_____another ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even most windows software happily detects and uses whatever the file uses, though I havenโt experimented with powershellโs utilities.
The most important use of DOS line endings Iโve found is when sending plain text to a HP laser printer, since it would correctly use \n and \r to mean move down and move back, so my Unix-format text file didnโt print properly. On the bright side it meant some old ASCII-art comics which relied on overprinting did print correctly.
techcaleb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The characters are called the carriage return and line feed. The reason is that, to continue on the next line, not only does the carriage head have to return (to the left) but you also have to feed one line of paper (vertically).
AlmanzoWilder ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:50:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Carriage return.
CowFu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:06:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure you scroll the page down when you carriage return.
Anothereternity ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:47:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm feeling old. I still call it a carriage return (even though I grew up with computers.).
AlmanzoWilder ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:52:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computers don't have a bell that rings when you're close. Pity.
DinerWaitress ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:50:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked with a programmer who, just last year, wrote an on screen message for users "depress the carriage return to select." What year is it??
shokalion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a program I use at work that dates from about 1989 and that has a message on it at one point that says "Press [CRET] to continue". So many young ones through our area see that and haven't a clue what it means.
sweetcuppingcakes ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:22:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked down at my keyboard, and that key is just a bent arrow.
Pick a side, keyboard! We're at war!
DaveNay ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:56:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just call it the โ key.
Declanmar ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:47:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How exactly is that pronounced?
imperabo ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:58:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The keystroke formerly known as return.
StandardIssueHuman ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:54:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You pronounce it roughly like "โ" in "โฉ๏ธ" followed by the sound of "โก" in "โซ".
xskipy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Take an upvote..
DaveNay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually the "๐ข" is silent
DaveNay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:21:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With love
itsamamaluigi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โ key
SuitedPair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pronounce it "how my penis looks".
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at my 2016 MacBook Pro, it says "RETURN" in big letters and "enter" in smaller letters above it.
MyFirstOtherAccount ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:30:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ughhhhh, which key is the "any" key!?!?
cardboard-kansio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Return on the alphanumeric part; Enter on the keypad.
NascentBehavior ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:29:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly, my keyboard merely has the "Return Arrow" that simulates the direction the type-writer register would go when you press the button. Similarly, the "Shift" key only has an up arrow, and "Tab" is two arrows going opposite parallel directions. I bet this was more interesting for me to discover for myself than most people reading it, but well - there it is.
PointyOintment ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:02:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The lower arrow on the tab key points right because it indents text to the right, or goes to the next form field, when pressed without shift being held down. The upper arrow points left because it de-indents text to the left (at least in an IDE or word processor's list), or goes to the previous form field, when pressed with shift held down.
linux1970 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even notice that the "enter" key doesn't say "return".
wardrich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OH YEAH YOU LITTLE BRATS? IF IT'S AN ENTER KEY THAN EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE HELL A CARRIAGE ENTER IS.
Then just storm off. You've won that round.
runtimemess ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:43:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember using my C64 as a kid and can still remember how to start a game
L O A D Shift 2 STAR Shift 2 comma 8 comma 1 RETURN
havebananas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, you should return to the store for some cream for that burn pilgrim.
whenrudyardbegan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your kids are already practicing to be dads!
Freadan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carriage Return! CR is also acceptable.
Khaki_Steve ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well my 2012 Macbook says both 'return' and 'enter', with the 'return' being the larger of the two
catdude142 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the old days, the ENTER key was a block mode screen reading function key.
The RETURN key was a carriage return function.
AndrewZabar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it was return short for carriage return which slid the carriage back to the starting position on a typewriter.
Whatโs really even more crazy is the code for ending a line and making a new line in many systems and code bases is called CR LF carriage return line feed. The CR part as a programming term is even based on the metaphor of the typewriter.
xiipaoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Enter" makes less sense than "return". The key inserts a newline and returns the cursor to the start; how is that "entering" anything? It's its other use, as the key to "enter" commands, that makes that name make sense.
That said, Mac keyboards have "return", with "enter" in small type above it to clear up confusion.
TheOtherDonald ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even "return" is short for "carriage return."
Pkron17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It says return on my new macbook so tell your kid to fuck off!
ZapActions-dower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only time I ever refer to it as a return key is when talking about returns. As in: "On reddit, you need to have two returns between lines for a line break to display properly."
generic-user-1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Orangehat13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you tell your kids that you RETURNED their Mother.
thtgyovrthr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's okay. somehow i missed the retirement of the "apple" key on the mac, and i can't unlearn my keyboard shortcuts [apple+c, apple+v, shift+apple+4, etc].
DukeOfChaos92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a haiku
Using a carriage return
I hope you like it.
This is a haiku
My point would be better made in a different font but I'm on mobile right now.
AlexTraner ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:11:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is return on a Mac
TransmissionPlot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Return on a Mac
Return on a Mac
You know that I'll be back
Spear99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a computer running Windows, the Enter/Return key actually enters into the text editor โ\r\nโ or carriage-return new-line to tell the computer the line has ended. So calling it the return key isnโt actually wrong at all and still relevant.
danomite736 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in tech support and I commonly refer to the characters as carriage returns when clarifying the input as opposed to the resulting html break.
Aggropop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They arent exactly the same though. Pressing the "enter" key will cause two things to happen (in most cases): a carriage return command (move to far left of the page) and a line feed (advance to next line below). Computers can still recognise both commands separately and this is still relevant when text is being transmitted serially. RS232 ain't going nowhere quick.
Retsyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I might be talking out my ass, but the "enter" written on it is above the arrow that indicates "carriage return" below. So the button should technically and pedantically hold the name "Return" as "Enter" is it's secondary function, and that is why the word is written above the <CR> arrow.
Can anyone confirm this? Because I'm so lazy I'll make up shit instead of Google it on my mobile.
drw16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's return in big text (and enter in small text) on macs
TheBossMan5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My keyboard actually still says "Return" on the key... and it's less than a year old.
Cal1gula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The invisible character that is created when you push that button is called a "carriage return". Your kids will understand once they are computer programmers.
MaddenMan73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked down at my keyboard and realized it's "ENTER" and not "RETURN" - hrm. TIL
vishtratwork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When did you change what is printed on that key?
sufjams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your kids dad joke'd you. Brutal.
Keabo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember playing computer games when I was a kid and being so confused when they said "Press the Return Key."
twoBrokenThumbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The computers I used in the early 80s had return keys. I can remember when some said return and some said enter. Then that all gradually shifted as time went on.
I still call it the return key myself on occasion. But I also call the $ a "string" symbol because of basic programming from the same time. So my usages are clearly irrelevant.
jetmark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Adobe graphics products, there is a distinction.
Galyndean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tell people they need to put a carriage return in their documents. They have no idea what I mean.
I could understand if they were younger than me. But they're people who tell me about how they had to type their college papers on typewriters. I'm a good 15-30+ years younger than them.
__danjo__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Listen pal you're lucky I ENTER'd your mother or you wouldn't be here."
TinweaselXXIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was about to comment this same thing. On keyboards it used to be Return as in "carriage return" like on a typewriter.
Enter just makes me feel way too old.
10art1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in my day, new line and carriage return were two separate keys! Also you always did carriage return first because it took the longest time.
stormjh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought one of the keys was enter and one was return.
RageCage42 ยท 1909 points ยท Posted at 18:12:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sailing terminology is everywhere:
"Taken aback" - This happens to a ship when the wind shifts and the sails are suddenly blown backward into the sailors' faces. The ship loses forward momentum.
"Learning the ropes" - when a new sailor literally learns which rope is connected to which part of the ship.
"Boarding" - Literally getting onto the boards of another ship. We still use this one to describe getting onto an airplane, when very few of them have any wooden parts.
Keeping things on an "even keel" - The keel is the lowermost part of a ship's hull. It's the part that runs down the middle and cuts through the water. Sailors want an even keel so that the ship stays on a smooth and steady course. Nowadays the term is used for any situation where people want to keep things smooth and steady.
"Limey" - Used as a semi-derogatory nickname for British sailors, who used limes and/or lime juice to prevent scurvy at sea. Nowadays it's a semi-derogatory nickname for all British people.
"groggy" - Grog was a mixture of rum and water that sailors drank. If you were groggy, you were either drunk on grog or hung over from the grog the night before. Nowadays we use it to describe being tired and fuzzy-headed.
"loose cannon" - Literally when a cannon wasn't secured in place and started crashing into things. Cannons were heavy pieces of solid iron with wheels, and if they weren't secured, they could roll/slide across a ship's deck whenever the ship leaned from side to side, and they could do some major damage to the ship and to the sailors. Nowadays this term describes a person who is unpredictable and likely to do damage wherever they go.
Terminology from old horse carriages is everywhere too:
"dashboard" - There was literally a board in front of the carriage driver to protect him from mud and gravel that "dashed" up against it from the horses' hooves. Now we use the word to describe any surface covered in controls, including on computer screens.
"hold your horses" - Self-explanatory, you hold the reins of the horses to slow them down.
Terminology from old machines:
to be "keyed up" or "wound up" - Referring to old clocks and clockwork machines that you sometimes had to wind up with a key.
"hanging up" a phone - Old phones, you had to hang up the earpiece when you were done.
"fired up" - Referring to steam engines, now people use it to refer to people being full of energy or starting up a piece of technology (whether it uses fire or not).
"upper case" and "lower case" - The individual metal letters used in a printing press were kept in cases - smaller letters in the lower case so they were in easy reach, larger letters in the upper case because they weren't used as much.
"stereotype" - This was a word used for identical copies of the same document, from the same printing press. Now we use it when we describe characteristics that we think are identical across whole social groups.
EDIT: Formatting.
EDIT2: Etymology corrections.
EDIT3: More sailing terms.
JaronK ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:10:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's worth noting, on "Limey", that limes don't have all that much vitamin C, and were useless for stopping scurvy. Lemons were what was effective. However, limes were cheaper, and when they were introduced sailing speeds had increased so much that scurvy wasn't really an issue anymore, so nobody noticed that the limes they were using weren't actually getting the job done anymore. Limes have about half the vitamin C of a lemon.
RageCage42 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:15:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very interesting. Something else on the topic of Vitamin C - I learned that sauerkraut is also a good source of Vitamin C, and Captain Cook had a lot of it on his ship, the Endeavor. Apparently raw cabbage has a little bit of Vitamin C, but sauerkraut has significantly more, as a byproduct of the bacteria involved in the fermentation process. A side benefit is that unlike citrus fruit, sauerkraut has a very long shelf life and will stay edible throughout a long sea voyage.
JaronK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, it is, and was a major way that some folks avoided Scurvy. Works a heck of a lot better than grog, that's for sure.
SovietShooter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was always told that because of the predominance of vessels with German-speaking sailors stocking sauerkraut to prevent scurvy, that was where the slur "kraut" originated for Germans.
But since Germany didn't exactly exist until 1870, and they weren't known for their Navy at that point, I'm not sure if this is true.
Car-face ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could have still been used to describe any sailors/people from that region, since the culture (and the foods) of that region, which comprise what is currently known as germany, have existed for centuries if not millenia.
transtranselvania ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What Iโm wondering is if limey is ever used for Scottish people, I thought it only referred to the English.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The story was even stranger than the lemons/limes idea might suggest. In the article "Scott and Scurvy", this was written:
". . . in 1860 . . . , naval authorities switched procurement from Mediterranean lemons to West Indian limes. The motives for this were mainly colonial - it was better to buy from British plantations than to continue importing lemons from Europe." Also, food preservation by heat processing in tin-lined cans had been introduced, but the procedure destroyed nearly all of the (then unknown) vitamin C in any citrus juices so preserved.
Thus, by the late 1800's the concept of citrus juice as a scurvy preventative was lost, and scurvy was thought to be a disease of bacterial contamination!
MisterMetal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it refers to the British and their use of limes in the original โgin and tonicsโ the soldiers would mix their quinine (the bitter pill- used to fight malaria) with gin and lime to make it more palatable.
JaronK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it's definitely their use aboard ships for scurvy. It just wasn't something that worked.
pandahadnap ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:21:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned recently that "pipe down" is also a nautical term. Before the 1MC, they would use a pipe to signal that it was time for sailors to go below deck to go to bed. It also meant silence about the ship.
Unlikelylikelyhood ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:26:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of your jib.
Rimshotsgalore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this, Upvoted instead!
yoooooosolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to Upvote this, Comment instead!
navinohradech ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:51:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol no, this makes about much sense as saying "the word top derives from the nautical term 'topsail'". These are all (formed from) inherited Germanic etymons that apply to whatever stand in these relationships, ship bits only incidentally. Humans obviously have always had to talk about things being before or after other things regardless of whether they are seafaring.
literally no one in this thread can figure out how to google "<WORD> etymology"
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:12:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After reading those three I scrolled down looking for someone to call bullshit. It made no fucking sense at all.
navinohradech ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:16:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah maybe if we all said "select the icon with the larboard mouse button"
fun fact, the German cognate for "after" ="After" meaning "anus", I always think of this when someone says there'll be an after party
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Larboard mouse button..lol
RageCage42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair point, I guess I got carried away with some of these. I should not have suggested that those words originated with sailing, just because they were used in the context of sailing.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:15:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair point? You just made that shit up. You were suggesting that humans had sophisticated seafaring before they had basic concepts of time.
RageCage42 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:19:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I admitted my mistake and I corrected my original post. I removed the incorrect terms and added different ones that fit the parameters of the discussion. I did not mean to imply anything of the sort you suggested. I simply got carried away with that part of the list by mistakenly including terms that, while widely used in a sailing context, did not originate in a sailing context.
navinohradech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, not humans necessarily, just Germanic speakers. And it's not like inconceivable that special nautical terms could have evolved and then replaced the prepositions/conjunctions that already existed. That's just not what actually happened. And this stuff is very easy to double-check.
TheGrammatonCleric ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:35:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the fiddle: ships had square plates with a board around the edge called a fiddle. If you had more than your share, you were on the fiddle.
Cat out of the bag: refers to a punishment device called a cat o nine tails that was kept in a bag. When it was out of the bag, well, shits about to go down.
Tatts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shits about to go down - only if there's room to swing a cat.
Shalterra ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:56:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "Decking someone",
To put someone out/down on the floor, or the deck of a ship.
abcPIPPO ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:45:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I always thought learning the ropes referred to the ropes of a ring, like a boxing ring.
Bernardasaurus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess that makes sense seeing as we use "on the ropes" from that area.
theidleidol ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:11:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre incorrect about โforwardโ, โbeforeโ and โafterโ. The time/location meanings weโre used to are not derived from nautical terms for the front and rear of ships; the older roots (Old English, Danish, and Proto-Germanic) for directions just stayed in use for ships long after they fell out of direct use in other contexts.
For your etymology to work, English (before it was even English) would have had to develop the names of ship parts before developing words for physical and temporal directions.
RageCage42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the feedback - I already removed those when it was pointed out to me that I got a bit carried away.
ArtysFartys ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:36:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bitter end is the very end of the anchor line. You are in trouble if you are trying to set the anchor and you get to the bitter end.
Baboobalou ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:47:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brass monkeys
"The story goes that cannonballs used to be stored aboard ship in piles, on a brass frame or tray called a 'monkey'. In very cold weather the brass would contract, spilling the cannonballs: hence very cold weather is 'cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey'."
RageCage42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard this one before and I really like it...I just wish it were actually true. I looked it up and apparently the cannonball story is just a myth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_monkey_(colloquialism)
Baboobalou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no! Stephen Fry lied to me? (I first heard it on his podcast about how many of the things E day nowadays came from our sea faring forefathers).
VirtualUnicorns ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:10:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like โthree sheets to the windโ - when sailing, if a sail is to the wind it means itโs not been tied down. When all three are loose, youโve completely lost control of the ship
milfordcubicle ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:15:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the sheets are actually the lines that trim the sails. when the sheets are loose or, "to the wind" it means that the sail is no longer tied down to the boat. on a sloop (standard single-mast sailboat with a fore and aft rig) there are three sheets, two jib sheets for the jib sail and one main sheet for the mainsail. if all three are loose, the sails aren't doing anything.
Also, ropes on ships are generally referred to as "lines". the only actual "rope" i can think of on a ship is a bell rope, which is used to ring the bell.
compwiz1202 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
86ing something to mean get rid of is because the Navy bins for waste were 86.
dance_rattle_shake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told the prohibition story. Could be either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_(term)
compwiz1202 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup that's the other one I read about.
busterbluthOT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually named after a person.
Rudderless for another sailing term.
RageCage42 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:03:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very cool, I didn't know that. I just took a trip to Wikipedia and found out a little more:
"Old Grog" was Vice Admiral Edward Vernon. Apparently he introduced the drink into his own naval squadron, and they called him "Old Grog" because his coat was made of grogram cloth.
DanYHKim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Waitaminnit . . . You're going to tell us about the grogram cloth, but not about the rum order itself? โThe daily allowance of half a pint a man is to be mixed with a quart of water, to be mixed in one Scuttled Butt kept for that purpose, . . ."
A 'scuttled butt' is a kind of cask with a lid, I believe. So the term "scuttlebutt", meaning shipboard rumor, relates to the talk between crewmen as they waited for their allotment of grog by the cask.
Brickie78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, as we call it today, "water-cooler talk"
Brickie78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It gets better - one of Vernon's sailors retired to the Colonies, bought a plot of land and named it Mount Vernon in honour of his old Admiral. It was later sold to the Washington family.
And "grogram" cloth is a corruption of the French "grosgrain", a cheap, rough cloth which you wouldn't really expect an admiral to be wearing.
thejom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And also a massive list here.
west_pac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Steady as she goes" and "steady on" are an instruction to maintain course and speed.
"Full to the gunnals" means a ship has been loaded so heavily that the waterline is almost sitting at the gunwale, the uppermost edge of the hull. It can also refer to a load that is level with the gunwale.
"Fluke" is the part of an anchor that grabs the ground, doing so by pure chance.
"Above board" means on the open air top deck, not hiding anything down below.
"Barge in" referring to a barge, a special ship reserved for the Admiral to bring him from his ship to a port.
"By and large" - By means into the wind, while large means with the wind. "By and large" is used to indicate all possible situations "the ship handles well both by and large"
"Clean slate" - At the helm, the watch keeper would record details of speed, distances, headings, etc. on a slate. At the beginning of a new watch the slate would be wiped clean.
"Debunk" is the process of removing fuel from a vessel, stored in "bunkers". So to debunk something is to take fuel out of it, hence debunking an argument.
"Souwester" hat, an oilskin rain hat developed for seafaring which refers to a south westerly storm, the kind of weather that would often necessitate that kind of hat.
"Fetch" means to reach a mark without tacking (zig zagging), so in other words it means go directly to something in a straight line.
"Leeway" is the amount that a ship is blown leeward by the wind.
"Mainstay" is a "stay" (rope) that is analogous to the "cornerstone" of a building.
"No room to swing a cat" comes from the fact that the entire ship's company was expected to witness floggings, assembled on deck. If it was very crowded, the bosun might not have room to swing the "cat o' nine tails" (the whip).
"Overbearing" means to sail downwind directly at another ship, stealing the wind from its sails. See also "knock the wind out of their sails".
"Pipe down" was a signal on the bosun's pipe to signal the end of the day, requiring lights (and smoking pipes) to be extinguished and silence from the crew.
"Rummage sale" refers to rummage, the name for cargo and also the word for it's organization - it was originally done as a way of selling damaged cargo, you had to "rummage" (sort) it yourself.
"Under the weather" is serving a watch on the weather side of the ship, exposed to wind and spray.
andropogon09 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stop making waves!
Dimbit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People in Australia (maybe elsewhere in the world also, I have no idea) use grog to refer to alcohol in general.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grog still exists in Berlin from my experience.
toomanyfuckinguserna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Australia Grog is still used to refer to alcohol
MrDaaark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget "freezing the balls off a brass monkey". A brass monkey is what would hold stacked cannonballs. When it got too cold the metal would condense and the stack would collapse.
RajinKajin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Needs gold but am poor
Mcbride93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I genuinely don't think I have ever heard anyone be called Limey.
ZombieCharltonHeston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another nautical one is scuttlebutt.
AshingiiAshuaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's leave this one off. I remember this IRL and it makes me feel old.
Maggots4brainz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I still wind up my watch so itโs not really irrelevant nowadays
threerocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought learning the ropes had something to do with boxing. Thanks for the info.
TP3NG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You win
CobraPony67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bitter End - The final six fathoms of anchor chain before the point of attachment in the chain locker of modern US naval vessels
Noble_Flatulence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By and Large
Johnappleseed4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody likes a show off
Natcur ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:47:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here, have an upvote
anschelsc ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 21:13:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Romans used piles of pebbles as computation aids: a pebble in this pile means one, a pebble in that pile means ten, and so on. If you've ever used an abacus you can see how this would work. So the word for "pebble" began to be used more generally for any kind of counting or reckoning, and eventually just for computation in general.
So how do you say "pebble" in Latin? Well, the word for limestone was calx, which is the root of English words like "chalk" and "calcium". But if you had only a little bit of limestone--a pebble--you used the diminutive: calculus.
EDIT: Needless(?) to say, by the time what we now call "calculus" was being invented in the 17th century, no one was doing math by counting pebbles anymore. It was just a generic word for "solving a math problem".
random_fucktuation ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 22:17:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calculate
Chalk it up
Figure it out
mjm8218 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:16:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best response in this thread!
RabbitsOnAChalkboard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:37:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have always wondered why I've seen the term calculus to refer to dental plaque! TI finally L!
ajnaazeer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sure this is correct? Calculus was invented in the 18th century if I'm not mistaken. I'm legitimately curious, not saying you are wrong :)
UltravioletFlamingo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:04:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I looked it up. Google and a few websites confirm this.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/calculus
From Google: "mid 17th century: from Latin, literally โsmall pebble (as used on an abacus)โ."
ajnaazeer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool they probably decided to use a Latin word to name it then. The more you know! Thanks
redpandaeater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Given that you're looking at small pieces when it comes to derivatives and integrals, it makes sense.
anschelsc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really a coincidence. By the time derivatives and integral were being thought up no one was imagining literal pebbles, any more than you think of horses kicking mud up at you when you say "dashboard".
anschelsc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:26:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like I said, it meant "computation in general". As late as the mid-19th century Boole was still using still using "a calculus" to mean "a system of calculation". It's only in modern times, as the generic term became less common, that we started to think of "calculus" as meaning specifically what used to be called "the differential and integral calculus".
DonnyTheWalrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are lots of different calculii, not just the one involving derivatives and integrals. The full phrase for this calculus is actually "the calculus of infinitesimals." There's also the predicate calculus, lambda calculus, propositional calculus, and many more.
Demistr ยท 231 points ยท Posted at 22:45:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Czech republic we have a phrase "Dรกvej bacha", which means watch out Originally it was used in 1850s when our country was under Austrian Hungary rule. Bach was actually a persons name. That person was chief of secret police. So when people said "dรกvej Bacha" they would mean watch out for secret police. Today it just means watch out. Didnt lose all relevance but i still find it interesting. Hope someone understands this despite my terrible english.
๐๏ธ Allen_MacGyverson ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:44:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Easily understood, thanks for sharing!
bighootay ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:48:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's fascinating! Also, you're English is great.
jontheboss ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:43:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
~ bighootay
bighootay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:51:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit...
Foxboy73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your*, not you are
bighootay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks....shit.
Science_the_ish_out ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:01:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We need to incorporate davej Trumpa into an English idiom
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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T0xicati0N ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:38:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We Czechs don't use the Cyrillic alphabet, if that's what you're insinuating tho. Just sayin.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:49:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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T0xicati0N ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:52:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright, all chill!
MightyTimelyArrival ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:29:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think this is where Watch Your Back came from.
Watch your Bach...
logicblocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bacha sounds like a Turkish or an Egyptian title for a chief. You think they are related?
Demistr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure, but i dont think so.
IAmNotScottBakula ยท 18171 points ยท Posted at 15:22:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Third World. It emerged during the Cold War to refer to countries that were not allied with the United States (the First World) or the Soviet Union (the Second World). Today, we still use it to refer to less developed countries. It is one of those terms that is politically incorrect in the most literal sense, because it refers to a political situation that has not existed in almost 30 years.
๐๏ธ Allen_MacGyverson ยท 4467 points ยท Posted at 15:26:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very interesting. Glad to get some in here that aren't tech related.
[deleted] ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 18:17:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're interested in cold war, watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI9UrckM-B0
Cold War is a twenty-four episode television documentary series about the Cold War that aired in 1998. It features interviews and footage of the events that shaped the tense relationships between the Soviet Union and the United States.
The series was produced by Pat Mitchell and Jeremy Isaacs, who had earlier in 1973 produced the World War II documentary series The World at War in a similar style.
Flying_Cunnilingus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:33:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bookmarked.
anotheronedown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you so much for this! Iโve been searching for tv shows or podcasts about the Cold War but havenโt really found too much of interest.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad someone found it useful! You are so welcome :))
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't wait to watch this, thank you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are very welcome!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in finals week in law school, where I have to wake up, study, take a test if I have one that day, study, sleep, repeat. So 24 hours of documentaries is just what I needed
rslasheurope ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 19:50:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hijacking your comment to point out that the english version of third world lost the original meaning of the french expression "tiers-monde".
I'm going to simplify a lot but here we go:
Third world is a direct reference to the french "third estate", as in 1/3rd; the society before the revolution was organized in 3 orders: clergy, nobility and "workers", the so-called third state
In times of crisis, there was an extraordinary assembly called "Etats-Generaux" in which each order was represented, and the 1/3rd state only had as many deputies as the clergy and nobility until the revolution, yet it was the very large majority of the populationthey were bourgeois deputies for the most part but politically the equal of mere peasants
Emmanuel Joseph Sieyes thus wrote: โWhat is the Third Estate? Everything. What has it been hitherto in the political order? Nothing. What does it desire to be? Something.โ
The third world was an analogy, that 90% of the worlds population far outweighed the advanced nations in demography yet had no political say or access to wealth much like the third estate
There is no such thing as "first world", since "Third" is not a ranking but rather a fraction, and deliberately misrepresentative.
LabyrinthConvention ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:34:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's some sweet dope
bitter_cynical_angry ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:42:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so by analogy, the developed Western countries are the clergy, and the Soviet bloc was the nobility?
RadicalEucalyptus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, which Third World Country was closest to the UK during The Cold War?
Northern Ireland.
OutFromUndr ยท 1159 points ยท Posted at 16:03:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So by this definition, countries like Ireland and Sweden are considered "Third World".
Obviously they're not with the definition we use today, but still very interesting.
chumswithcum ยท 352 points ยท Posted at 16:54:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, and the second world ceased to exist on 26 December, 1991.
Alpha_Bit_Poop ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:17:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmmm but yeah the term second world just morphed to mean countries in between third and first world. Because I am in China and Chinese people will routinely refer to China as a second world country.
PanKurzcak ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:55:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also was a second world country when the term still made sense, they were allied with the ussr after all.
Alpha_Bit_Poop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmmm up until the 70's and Nixon, when they got all buddy buddy with us.
ediblesprysky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a kid born in 1989, I did wonder why I never heard about "second world countries" on the news. I assumed there was just nothing going on in those places worth talking about, but I figured they were countries less developed than us but more developed than Third World places. Learning this as an adult explained a lot.
dotlinefever3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:21:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as i remember it, second world really wasnt used all that much here in the states. More often then not,soviet aligned nations were referred to as warsaw pact nations.
dotlinefever3 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:18:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and the US became a second world country on 20 Jan 2017
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But China and Cuba still exist
A_Wizzerd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the sixth world began 24 December, 2011.
rbsanford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like the USSR was nuked into nothing.
chumswithcum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:56:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They just overspent on military and went broke. Eventually enough starving citizenry said "we're done" and the band broke up for good.
rbsanford ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, but saying that a country ceased to exist sounds much more sinister.
chumswithcum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Austria-Hungary ceased to exist in 1919 after the Treaty of Versailles.
rbsanford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the context of the Cold War, the USSR ceasing to exist sounds even more sinister than that.
chumswithcum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the twenty sixth day of December, nineteen ninety one, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics ceased to exist.
ILoveMeSomePickles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but that was a good thing.
I_Like_Buildings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that answers a childhood question, I always wondered why things skipped from first world to third world. Is there something similar with the term "third party"? We never really use first party or second party.
chumswithcum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as I know (I may be incorrect)
First party is your interest in a contract
Second party would be the other interests in the contract
Third party would be someone with no stake or interest in the contract
I'm having a hard time wording it in a way that doesn't involve contracts, I guess dispute could also be used.
First party is you
Second party is opponent
Third party is judge
MorgaineMoonstone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way I learned it in school (I live in Bosnia), although Second World doesn't really exist, Bosnia is considered a Second World country because we're still transitioning from socialism to capitalism. Although, Yugoslavia wasn't allied with the US or USSR, so that would technically make us Third World, as an ex-Yugoslavian country.
whenrudyardbegan ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 17:46:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there's still Cuba and Venezuela
lukee910 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:50:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But they arenโt allied with the UDSSR, because it kinda doesnโt exist anymore. The definition of the 2nd world diead in 1991.
whenrudyardbegan ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 18:05:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're the last guardians of that shit ideology
Porrick ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 18:40:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term has less to do with ideology than affiliation to an international sphere of influence. The USA didn't care about the democratic credentials of its allies, and nor did the USSR particularly care about the communist credentials of its ones. Both sides only cared whose team a given country was on.
Agreeing about ideology made team membership more comfortable, but it was a secondary concern.
whenrudyardbegan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canada is at least second world...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://southpark.cc.com/clips/0bv37r/our-countries-better-be-prepared
rand652 ยท 459 points ยท Posted at 16:08:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They moved from third to first world. Such an upgrade.
whenrudyardbegan ยท 123 points ยท Posted at 17:46:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a world of difference
Norrius ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two worlds, in fact.
Criticalmak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:00:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And we won't stop there either.
rand652 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:00:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zero based world numbering :o
Crazy_Melon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
someone deserves a promotion for their efforts
Hust91 ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 19:33:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
US moved from 1st to 2nd for many in terms of living standards.
robdouth ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:54:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not true in any meaningful way. I know being in your country you tend to view your problems as horrible or bigger than they are, but if you visit truly poor countries, you realize that the poor in America are so much better off than the vast majority of the world in every meaningful and measurable way.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't expect more, but the floor of living standards in the US is so much higher than virtually anywhere else. You have to actively avoid the ability to be helped to truly be destitute in the US.
vacuousaptitude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, this might be a shock. Maybe there is a category between the truly advanced developed societies like the wealthier EU countries, Canada etc and the Congo.
Like there are plenty of countries that aren't absolute shit shows for everyone involved, that are really good if you're rich, and really suck if you're poor. Like the US.
We aren't a developing country. We do have an advanced economy. But we are not in the top tier of nations by basically any measure that means anything to real people. We're still in the second tier, don't get me wrong, but we're clearly not in the 1st
robdouth ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:37:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you arbitrarily draw the tiers to put the US in the second tier. Even in the areas we are deficient we are not so deficient as to not be comparable. We would have to provide some kinda evidence other than just saying we are second tier or second world.
vacuousaptitude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All tiers are arbitrary, but we aren't in the top 20 or so nations in the world
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
top 20 in what though? I'm not trying to be a dick to you but we have been discussing generally in terms of "living standards" but what are we discussing? per capita GDP, because we are definitely top 20. Is it some kind of happiness index? Healthcare? if we start using specific numbers I feel like we have to talk about specific measures where we aren't top 20. Also if the difference between 1 and 20 is half a percent, then we also need to clarify the magnitude so we aren't quibbling over a rounding error in difference.
vacuousaptitude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Education. Quality of life. Healthcare outcomes. Paternal leave. Infant mortality. Homicide. Violent crime. Social welfare programs. Minority rights. Human rights in general. Not being militaristic assholes. Rape. Hate crime. Income inequality. Press freedom. Privacy rights. Environmental cleanliness. Safe drinking water. Safe food to eat.
It's a big ass list. We aren't at the top of anything except for military expenditure and aggregate wealth held in a very unequal way.
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Infant mortality I've already explained previously in this sub. It's extremely misleading because the US is the best in caring for infants. If you have a baby born prematurely, you want it born in the US because it will get the best care period. Other countries write off babies born before a certain gestational period as stillborn and don't even bother counting it as "infant mortality" We can save babies born earlier than in any other country and pioneer those field. Healthcare is my background so at least on that one I know that the statistics are at best highly misleading if not outright wrong.
We also generally have better healthcare outcomes that most countries, but it's just not distributed in the same way other countries do it, which is why the WHO rankings ding the US. We would be ranked higher if we had worse outcomes but they were distributed more equally.
Education is clearly a problem, and we spend more in Education per pupil than any other country, so it's not a spending issue, but a standards issue. I've always been critical of the US when it comes to education though so I won't argue with you there.
Most of the rest of those are political issues. Press freedom is still high even if the President is battling with them, because they aren't being restricted. Battling with a politician does not equal no freedom. Safe drinking water is actually a silly one also, unless you are claiming that Flint, Michigan is representative of the entire country. That's a local problem, not a Federal issue.
You'll have to provide some kind of sources on the safe food to eat also, because that is different from people choosing to eat shitty food. Our food is just as safe as the rest of the developed world, and I've never even heard that cited as an issue. Homicide/violent crime/hate crime/rape are all basically the same issue in terms of crime numbers. The US has very different demographics than Europe and Japan though so comparing those is apples and oranges.
Also, for the aggregate wealth in a very unequal way, most people who cite those numbers don't actually explain what the underlying causes of it are. We have record numbers of single parent households. More and more kids are born to single mothers, who don't have the earning potential of dual income households. So by definition as the bottom grows in terms of sheer numbers, the gap between that increasingly large group of single parents and dual income households will grow.
People will incorrectly attribute it to the rich getting rich too quickly, but the facts are that single parent households have a very limited earning potential and we have more of them now than ever across all races. We can't return to the household incomes of the 1960s because we don't have the households of the 1960s. How can anyone expect a single mother with at most a high school degree to earn what two parents with college educations do? Inflation is further eroding that purchasing power, but that again ties to political issues of spending and reducing the power of the dollar.
As to our environment, if you are talking about signing onto environmental treaties, that's a different issue, but our specific environment is not more polluted than other 1st world countries. I understand if you are complaining about our commitment to global efforts, but that's not the same as saying our air quality and water quality are crappy.
http://aqicn.org/map/usa/#@g/18.5898/-31.1977/3z This gives you a real time air quality map, to which the US is much better than most of the civilized world. The same is true of water quality with the problem being highly publicized issues in Flint and in Charleston West Virginia.
Again, we have real problems, but the magnitude of them is extremely overblown.
Ahegaoisreal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:23:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's maybe 15-20 countries with better quality of life than The US. And that's including tax havens like Monaco, San Marino, etc.
The US definitely belongs in the "1st tier".
vacuousaptitude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are 195 recognized countries in the world. We are usually between 20-30 in a lot of rankings. 15-20 in the things were better at. In the 50s and 60s of things we arent. We aren't in the top 10%. How can you consider yourself top tier in that case?
We are tied for last in things like parental leave and legally guaranteed vacation.
We are a 2nd tier nation.
Hust91 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:56:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not from the US, I'm looking in from Scandinavia with a kind of slack-jawed sense of building terror at the regulations, the legalized bribes, the democracy that barely deserves the name (and doesn't, according to that one statistical study of how well the people's wants correlate with what congress does), the way of treating poor and mentally ill and the ubiquitous regulatory capture.
And honestly, the US seems a LOT closer to Russia or China than to Germany or Sweden in terms of social infrastructure (overburdened courts, justice system where your ability to get justice is limited by your wallet, etc) living standards and human rights.
And while I admit my bias, I would argue that those living in the US don't understand how bad they actually have it if they have not lived and worked here for at least a year.
So many issues that people in the US just consider facts of life seem like inhuman conditions that we solved decades ago and they somehow just... didn't.
Like some kind of parallel dimension where noone thought of antibiotics or lightbulbs and still die from infections and go to bed when the sun goes down, except it's in the field of democratic principles, human rights and economic science rather than concrete inventions.
And so many just seem to think that there's nothing that can be done about it and no better alternatives because they for some reason only compare themselves with dictatorships and feudal societies that don't even have industrialized agriculture, as if that makes the lack of antibiotics and light ok.
robdouth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:07:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well we aren't a democracy, but a republic, but a lot of your other concerns are valid. Some of the terrors you listed are a bit overblown and if the information you get about the US is mostly from Reddit, then it will definitely seem worse than it really is. Every problem is screamed at volume 11, but having lived in at least 3 different countries, the differences are much more minimal than people would have you believe. Healthcare is a very serious concern where the problems are not being overplayed, because of the cost of the care and the access problems that people have. However, we are also the country that is on the bleeding edge of this innovation in terms of cost. We spend a ton to advance healthcare/medicine etc, and therefore a lot to access it as well. I agree that European countries have designed a system for healthcare that is superior in many ways. I worry that the US culture would take a good system and bankrupt it because of our over-riding principles of individualism over community.
I've said it elsewhere on this thread, but look at the obesity epidemic and opioid crisis which are not crises in European countries. Look at the number of gun traumas which add to the basic cost of healthcare that European countries don't have to deal with. The US has some unique challenges, and a European style fix for healthcare may not work as well with all the other cultural/political problems we have. I don't know which direction the US will go once we get past this Trump chapter, but I don't have a lot of hope for it, because currently in the US, it's devolved to a pretty sad state and I don't see any reason for optimism in the near future.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I realize much is exaggeration, but the impression that the most crucial parts, that of the political system and how it is financed, is not exaggerated and that part is more terrifying than all the others put together because it is the most powerful nation on earth and its politicians are selected in large part based on who gets the most bribes to fund their reelection with.
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a blunt way of putting it, but the fact is that incumbency is what matters most. If you have the seat, it's hard to lose it due to gerrymandering the districts by both parties to maximize returns and as you said, how much money it takes to run an election campaign now.
This to me is one of the reasons I wish for a slightly more limited gov't. When it's gov't for sale to the highest bidder, the only solution IMO is to remove some of the power and push it back to the states (to make it closer to and therefore more accountable to the people), but neither party is very federalist anymore and they both want to do what they want to do with the national levers of power at the Federal level.
I am not optimistic either, but I think that all of this coming to a head in a Trump presidency can create a silver lining where the pendulum swings so far to one direction that we end up cleaning house as a result of this mess. Just like Hollywood is having to clean house after the sexual abuse scandals. It's ugly and terrifying to go through, but what comes out the other end, may actually be a better product. The real tragedy, however, is the setting back of racial relations and the civil tension in the US which isn't at the levels of the 1960's but probably is the worst it has been since then because civil discourse and bipartisanship wasn't as horrible through the 70s-2000s for the most part. But that was a kind of dรฉtente between two flare ups in the culture war.
Don't be too discouraged though, I still don't think every politician is as bad as their opponents make them out to be. It's easy to paint your political opponents as whores and shills, but inside those caricatures there is a person who I believe loves the country and if push comes to shove, most of them won't completely torpedo the country for their own ambitions alone, no matter what people may think. I am fully prepared to be wrong on that, but it's one of the things I hold onto for hope. Hopefully I'm not wrong, but we'll see. Have a good one brother.
SideFumbling ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 22:08:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are so far up your own ass, it's amazing.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:34:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great rebuttal. I'm glad you used facts and logic to refute his claims. /s
You won't win over anyone if this is your argument against the previous comment. This comment makes it seem like you're incapable of forming logical arguments and resort to ad hominem instead.
SideFumbling ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:39:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He makes a completely subjective """argument""". There's nothing to refute.
try_____another ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The floor of living standards in America is one of the lowest in the developed world, and for a long time America had much cheaper menial labour relative to capital than than the rest of the first world.
It is still better than โmost of the worldโ, but it is worse than countries which ought to be comparable.
q8u0jtfroiaef ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But nobody is comparing US to some shithole in Africa. The comparison is between similar developed countries and economies.
robdouth ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:08:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I'm not, I'm responding directly to the specific comment:
This is just demonstrably not true. We are still comparable with other 1st world countries. We may not compare favorably in every metric, but we still compare with them, not so far below them as to be 2nd world. That was my very narrow point. 2nd/3rd world has a very specific connotation, and when you see it, you understand that even if you think the US needs to improve, we are nowhere near 2nd/3rd world status.
skybluegill ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 20:01:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay but maybe visit some of the more advanced European countries before you claim that the US is the best - being good but second-rate isn't something to be ashamed of, and that's where America is right now
robdouth ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:05:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not claiming the US is the best. You are presenting two separate arguments. Our standard of living basement is higher than the vast majority of the world, with few exceptions. That's a completely different argument than saying that we are the best. I wouldn't argue we are the best, although I would need to see the data behind any meaningful list ranking these things.
For example, as a healthcare professional, we laugh at the WHO rankings of the US in terms of healthcare because it's extremely misleading in terms of infant mortality among other metrics. If you are ranked behind Cuba in infant mortality, you either have truly shitty healthcare, or someone is playing games with the numbers, and given the high quality of NICU services in this country, I can tell you for sure that it's not the former.
girl-lee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a genuine question and I'm not being at all facetious, does everyone have access to those high quality NICU services? Is there a possibility of not being able to afford to go to a hospital with those services available and instead having to go somewhere a bit worse? Or perhaps choosing to avoid a hospital birth altogether because of the prohibitive costs?
I think many of us saw the picture of the hospital bill after the birth of a baby that was on the front page a day or so ago. It just made me wonder.
robdouth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:35:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whether you Can "afford" them or not, you will be provided the service. Hospitals don't turn sick babies away from their ED unless they don't have a pediatric department. The hospital I work for covers tons of cases every year for which we get no reimbursement. Most major children's hospitals in metro areas do.
skybluegill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The hospital not getting reimbursed doesn't mean the service is free for those people - instead, they rack up debts they never will repay
robdouth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:40:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Much of the time, it's written off as bad debt from a hospital perspective and the family files for bankruptcy to get out of that debt. In fact, if your child has a rare disease, you are better off here in AZ, to lose your job and get on AHCCCS than to expect a private insurance to pay for it (if your kid has a rare blood factor disease or extremely expensive genetics infusions, etc.)
This is just another reason why the fee for service model we have is not ideal.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about people outside metro areas?
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they travel to metro areas usually to get that level of specialty care. If you live far from the major cities in California for example, you travel to CHLA, Stanford, UCLA, Rady's for specific children's specialty care. Just as in other countries though the better healthcare services will be provided where there are more patients.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:02 on January 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't seem quite feasible to travel for more than 4 hours if you're going into labor, does it?
robdouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:07 on January 13, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't but women in rural areas do travel that far to have babies. Usually not 4+ hours, but I live in AZ and the people who have babies in Wickenburg drive the hour and a half into Phoenix to have babies. I'd imagine people a little further out have to drive further. You have an OB that is monitoring and they usually do things like induce for convenience also.
The number of babies being born 4+ hours from a metro area or otherwise capable facility are extremely minimal. You can go to a limited service hospital to have a baby also, however, if there are any complications, they will most likely be flown by helicopter to the nearest hospital with a full service NICU and Trauma center.
People find a way to make it work when they live out in the sticks. However, it's even less feasible to set up full service sub-specialty care like that out in the boonies. It would never be financially viable to have those kind of physical and personnel assets in a low volume area, and you wouldn't be able to find the specialized staff to provide those kinds of services out in the rural areas because largely those doctors don't want to live out in those areas.
edit: Changed babies in the first sentence to women for clarity.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:44:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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q8u0jtfroiaef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:01:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans might want to get some perspective on how good the poor in the developed counties in Europe have it.
Hust91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Living in Europe, my perspective is naturally skewed - but the lack of rights and safety in the US puts the stories from it a lot closer in my mind to Russia or China than to Germany or Sweden in very many respects.
er-day ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's not too far off the mark. The United States ranks 1st in first in incarceration, not just per gdp but roughly double the next closest country in gross numbers. We're 14th in education, 2nd in ignorance, 101st in peace, 23rd in gender equality, 33rd in internet download speeds, 46th in freedom of the press, 26th in child well being, 24th in literacy, and 17th in happiness. The United States united states rarely breaks into the top 20 in any desirable trait for a country to have.
Now I understand that that would place us still in the top 10-20% of countries in the world, but when Iran and Russia are hot on our heels for healthcare efficiency and Tuvalu and San Marino (countries I've never heard of) are outpacing us by 7% in number of vaccinated citizens I start questions whether we are a first world country let alone a world leader.
But look on the bright side, we're 1st in olympic figure skating medals, 1st in plastic surgeons, 1st in the number of super rich, and 1st in wine consumption... so go us.
Edit: Changed world power to world leader.
invisible32 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:38:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only part of that I instantly objectively disagree with is saying the US isn't a world power. We have military installations on every continent except antarctica.
er-day ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:50:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I think I meant to say world "leader" not power.
invisible32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even that seem untrue considering that the US is one of only five nations with UN veto power. Might not be the leader but the US is a leader. At least a boss depending on your opinions to that regard.
er-day ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:02:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hardly think that the United State's position at the end of WW2, once the rest of the world was in tatters, and their ability to negotiate for a position in the United Nations that they created and refused to be apart of without veto power is evidence that we are a leader. I would agree that it makes us powerful, but I would like to think a leader is more than just someone who is powerful, in the same respect that I think few consider Donald Trump to be a Leader. He is powerful, yes, but hardly a leader.
invisible32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hence my addendum, we at least can and do boss people around. So if you mean leader like we work with the world to advance everyone, maybe depending on who you ask, but we certainly do have political control over the decisions of many other regions than our own.
lamb_shanks ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:40:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tuvalu and san Marino are both tiny with a combined population of approx 50k, so comparing vaccination rates to the USA is almost entirely meaningless.
er-day ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:59:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Large countries that outrank us: France, South Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Spain, Germany, Russia, Canada, The UK, Vietnam, Argentina... literally every large country besides Brazil. Would it be more helpful to say that the United States is within 1% and 2 places away from North Korea in population vaccinated? We are just shy of being surpassed by North Korea!! They have 25 million people and don't even have the internet!
lamb_shanks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is definitely a more interesting point to make! That is very surprising.
Category3Water ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does one measure ignorance? Would you be measuring the lack of knowledge? Like a literacy test? Not trying to debate you, just curious if that's a real statistic or a joke you slipped in.
er-day ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reading into it myself now, "A survey of people's knowledge about their own country." and "Participants were asked a number of questions about their society, including their country's population, healthcare spending, home ownership and the proportion of Muslims living in their country. The findings were then collated to create the index.
Category3Water ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, ok. That's fair enough. I could see a good portion of the US easily thinking that 20% of our population is somehow illegal Mexican Muslims. It's interesting though. Back in the day, people were ignorant because they couldn't access books or other materials they might need to learn. But in the US, our ignorance seems to be a choice. We have the things we need to in order to not be ignorant, but we choose to be.
er-day ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would argue that makes us even worse. Its a sort of self inflicted censorship much like North Korea. Its the same reason our vaccination rates are abysmal.
Ahegaoisreal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, I live in Poland, a country that was somewhat loosely tied to The USSR compared to Ukraine or Lithuania and even in here the quality of life is levels below The US.
Hust91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:59 on January 12, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
I'm.. Not sure how this applies?
Poland is definitely 2nd world, is it not?
Inusitatus7 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 19:40:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also in terms of being run by Russia
SkierBeard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:01:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trump does have charm
ABCosmos ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:12:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI.. They probably wouldn't have been thought of as third world even at the time.
These terms are generalized and generally the countries you think of as third world today are the countries they meant back then too.
FriendlyWebGuy ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:25:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They weren't allied militarily but they were from an ideological perspective for the most part. In other worlds, part of the "western" world.
-Yngin- ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:09:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweden a third world country? This isn't news to us.
- Love, Norway
Catshit-Dogfart ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:34:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
During the time these terms came to be, the mentality was that the whole world consists of "us" "them" and "everybody else who doesn't matter"
KeisariFLANAGAN ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:30:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now, they weren't part of the non-aligned movement which was founded by the leaders of Indonesia, Yugoslavia, India, and Ghana, so the distinction has Somme value for development purposes.
try_____another ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite: the categorisation was economic and political, as Tito originally used the term, so the neutral developed capitalist nations were still lumped in with America and the PRC was counted alongside the USSR in their โworldโsโ, and each of them took โfirst worldโ to mean โusโ and โsecond worldโ to mean โthemโ.
RussianSkunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tito? As in Josip Broz? I always thought Alfred Sauvy coined the term, though I could be wrong.
zywrek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While neutrality was always our official stance (Sweden), we were working very closely with the US during the cold war (and still are). Mainly due to our competence in SIGINT (electronic and signal surveillance) and underwater ability. The baltic sea has very special characteristics, making it very hard to navigate and probe. Examples are varying salt levels and temperature, dividing the ocean into layers that makes it hard to scout.
Basically, nothing happens in the baltic sea without Swedish intelligence knowing about it. One interesting question though, is how we came to ally with the west, seeing as we are a very socialistic country. Even more so during the cold war..
DrunkHurricane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweden is only really socialistic by US standards. In reality it's just a capitalist country with extensive social welfare.
da_choppa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite joke in Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life" is the reference to Ireland as part of the third world.
GucciGodot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First World was capitalist countries. Second World was communist. Third World referred specifically to the African and Asian nations that attempted to band together to form their own faction during the Cold War that would be outside US and Soviet influences. They even coined the term Third World for themselves. The league was pretty much made up of poor countries, which is why the term became generalized.
bgrimsle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:53:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, of course not. I'm guessing some young people who were not alive at the time are posting here. First World did not mean very close military ties with the US. It referred to all prosperous democracies. Western Europe, the US, Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, maybe a few others. Second World included all Communist dictatorships. All other countries were Third World. In the 70's someone proposed the term Fourth World for very poor Third World countries, but this did not catch on.
OutFromUndr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I was born in 89. I don't know how people actually used the terms at the time.
I just looked up the origin of "first world" and "third world" and applied logic based on how they were originally defined (NATO = First World, BLOC = Second World, All Others = Third World).
GOODFAM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To reinforce what another user said, the alliance was more of a shared ideology. Ireland and Sweden were not considered Third World because they're apart of Western Europe. On the other hand, Romania, Hungary, and all of the other countries that used to be part of the soviet bloc fall under the old definition of "Third World." With the exception of Greece.
This divide in Europe has been a phenomenon pre-dating the Cold War, and it still exists today. The only thing that's changed is how we label the others.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had always wondered what happened to the "Second World"... TIL! This post is a treasure trove of etymology factoids.
LoneRangerLong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and also because there were more Irish brothers and nuns in the Third World than there were in Ireland.
Azrou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly, the nonaligned countries were distinct.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement
EmmetJD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ireland in the fifties and sixties was basically third world in both meanings
flaeskesteg ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 19:57:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweden basically is a Third World country again
Roevhaal ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:03:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're certainly heading that way atleast.
MandolinMagi ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Northern Ireland was pretty third-world what with all the armed conflict, military occupation, psedo-religious war, and terror bombings, but they finally settled down...in the late 1990s.
IngoVals ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:04:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, first world as they are NATO members, and Poland wouldnt be third world either since they were aligned with USSR but the second world countries were often called eastern bloc.
BitterLlama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweden and Ireland arenโt members of NATO.
IngoVals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, that is true, they stayed independent during WW II and I guess that is why the didn't come under US/NATO influence. My bad.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:03:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is Sweden not developed ?
RussianSkunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The archaic 1952 usage, not the modern usage. Sweden was officially neutral, aligning itself with neither NATO nor the Warsaw Pact, therefore it could be considered Third World.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh copy.
DAHFreedom ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Irish were nazis? Wait, seriously?
RussianSkunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who said anything about Nazis? Unless that was a joke I missed...
ijerkofftopcfags ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:29:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweden kinda is third world though with all of the new additions
IguessthatsAname ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 19:28:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, the UK and Sweden were both very anti-Soviet
Scumbag__ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:20:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He said Ireland and Sweden. We were neutral countries.
IguessthatsAname ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not during the cold war, and arguably not today.
Scumbag__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ireland have always maintained neutrality and Sweden did too until 2009 or so.
Zagubadu ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 17:26:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
am I missing something here?
How is america NOT developing? Wouldn't it be 3rd world also?
I mean I live here something tells me if we weren't developing I'd know....maybe a letter in the mail or something.
OutFromUndr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:29:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're responding to the wrong person
Invocus ยท 1789 points ยท Posted at 15:49:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โThird worldโ is definitely still hanging around in the vernacular, but to anyone who might not know, we do have replacement terms:
First world -> โDeveloped countriesโ
Third world -> โDeveloping countriesโ
Edit: my most recent geography class was 11 years ago, so Iโm mainly going off of what I see used in NPR news reports.
Jboycjf05 ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 17:23:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, global north and global south are roughly analogous to developed and developing countries, respectively.
jon909 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 20:36:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australia fucked as usual
billion_dollar_ideas ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:38:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But their maps are upside down so they are in the north on their map. (/s just in case)
Jboycjf05 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, you're technically part of the global north. It isn't as much a geographic term in political science.
jon909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that was the literal joke
sroasa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And New Zealand forgotten.
geekmuseNU ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:28:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is ironic because that's also a term with not a lot of hard geographic basis
-Reddit_Account- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you telling me china is poor?
geekmuseNU ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:13:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of them are in fact poor, peasants even. However, I meant more that Australia and New Zealand are two prominent members of the "global north" and are about as far south as you can get besides Antarctica
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except they are literally the only major exceptions.
Some of South America is fairly well off but not on the same level as Europe and NA
geekmuseNU ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chile and Argentina are both in the "very high" category of the Human Development Index (a UN metric for determining this kind of thing and the closest thing to a quantitative "global north"), same category as the US, Canada, most EU countries, Australia etc so in a literal sense they are on the same level, and they're also the two southernmost countries in South America. Plus Buenos Aires is a pretty globally influential city.
Edit: Don't forget Singapore, South Korea, Brunei, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman and other wealthy Asian and middle eastern states
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chile GDP per capita is 13k, Argentina is 12.5k.
Germany is 40k, the UK is 39k the US is 59k.
They are still a ways behind even if they are catching up.
geekmuseNU ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The question isn't whether they're on par with the US it's whether they're considered part of the "global north". Besides, GDP per capita is only one of many measures the HDI takes into account, including infrastructure, healthcare accessibility, political freedom and other metrics. In fact Chile has a higher score than Saudi Arabia, which is pretty widely accepted as a "developed country" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
__worldpeace ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:18:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is correct. In my graduate school seminar in Demography and my seminar Globalization, I would say that global south/north was the most commonly used term in the literature followed by developed/developing. "Third world" was definitely criticized.
AnotherCupOfTea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard that term used in an economic manner. Is it?
thedrivingcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Global North / South are more in vogue in development circles.
jihadijohnson ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:49:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Developed" and "developing" are outdated as well and puts countries on a scale that typically favors western capitalist countries. High, middle and low income is probably the closest/fairest.
tiny_son ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:47:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. It also creates a misconception that these "developing nations" don't have major cities, technology etc.
PointyOintment ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:47:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that "developed countries" have stopped developing, when they're probably actually developing faster than "developing countries".
ghostunicorn ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:16:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My geography class called it LEDCโs and MEDCโs (less/ more economically developed countries).
pjr10th ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:10:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've changed it to HICs and LICs now (and NEEs - BRIC).
DrGhostfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BRIC MINT Brazil Russia India China, Mexico Indonesia Nigeria Turkey
I think, been a while..
FattySnacks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do those mean though?
pjr10th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
High Income, Low Income and Newly Emerging Economies.
[deleted] ยท 489 points ยท Posted at 16:24:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then what do you call countries that aren't developing? I've always though of it more as:
First World = developed
Second World = developing (as in their economies are making strides towards being developed and standard of living is lower than first world--think Turkey or Brazil)
Third World = undeveloped (sub-saharan Africa)
Coffee-Anon ยท 974 points ยท Posted at 17:03:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
second world doesn't have a modern equivalent any more, and sub-saharan African countries aren't "undeveloped", they are less developed. They still have governments, economies, infrastructure, etc.
StumpyAlex ยท 238 points ยท Posted at 17:10:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Undeveloped would be like those islands islands that no one is allowed to go to, because you'll die like immediately.
Yung_Turbo ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 17:23:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And most of those are inhabited by deadly animals like the lovely Ilha da Queimada Grande.
My favorite bit from the article:
1 snake for every square meter. The island is 430,000 square meters.
Gristlybits ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 17:42:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well found my nightmare for the evening.
jimx117 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:39:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nightmare?
According to Barry White, there's nothing quite as sexy as the slither of a lady snake.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:07:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the lamia lover
Chrisl19 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:37:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also goesnon to say that a more accurate estimate was made and is actually 2000 to 4000 snakes, so unless the island is the size of a mansion it ia not 1 snake per square meter. Still waaayy to many for me to step foot on an island like that though.
ninjahhh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that was just in reference to one of the species that inhabits the island, the golden lancehead viper.
Dcjj ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:25:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the article reads as if the use "the snakes" to refer to the golden lancehead.
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:50:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if you keep reading the very same wiki article you linked you see that the current estimates are much lower than that.
Yung_Turbo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:26:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That paragraph specifically is talking about Golden Lancehead pit vipers which are an endangered species that are only indigenous to that island. However, there are many many other species of snakes as well leading to the estimate i highlighted.
Alaea ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:32:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The article only mentions 1 other species present, in small numbers.
The_Confederate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly donโt understand the continued survival of the snakes on that island. I know itโs an estimate on how many but if it was truly 1 per square meter shouldnโt they have all starved years ago? The rats and birds would die off pretty quick if that many snakes existed and they would starve right?
Can someone tell me if and how Iโm wrong?
NoxBizkit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, besides that current estimates are way lower than that, literally the first sentence states "also known as Snake Island". What do you expect?
FlexualHealing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Ol Greenland Iceland switcheroo.
RyudoKills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, for a rare snake inhabiting an island of death, that specific snake they mentioned is pretty damn boring looking.
KKV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I highly doubt this is possible. How do 430,000 snakes find enough food to survive on that island? There has to be some kind of equilibrium.
shapkaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally just a few sentences down..
xiaodown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, how many snakes is that?
8hole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aye, read the article though. Thereโs maybe 2000 snakes.
Coffee-Anon ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:24:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah something like that. Or those uncontacted tribes that live deep in the Amazon that don't participate in modern society at all... but there isn't a whole country that has that level of seclusion.
cvinion ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:28:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except for sentinel island off of India. The sentineleese people have had no outside contact ever....
Ever, how. C Razy!
AlotOfReading ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:55:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've met foreigners and were reportedly quite friendly towards them until the 2004 tsunami. A large portion of the population was likely killed during that event and they subsequently became quite hostile to outsiders. This prevented the Indian government from officially contacting them, so they remain officially uncontacted.
DrunkHurricane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source? Because from what I've heard they've always been hostile.
ILoveWildlife ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:59:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
north korea is trying...
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:26:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah, australia
RogueHippie ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:48:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So Australia
Nunuyz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:06:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People are allowed to go to Australia...
Purplociraptor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:32:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australia is not a third world country.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's a giant Alcatraz.
Shtinky ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:07:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL lots of Canada would be considered third world
theredpikmin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:41:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the moon.
Actionable_Mango ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australia?
shareef_3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So Bermuda triangle
ChandlerMc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Survivor: End Game
Coming Soon on CBS
Dark_Lotus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ones that throw the spears at the helicopters before they can even land
Khan_Bomb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
North Sentinal Island
ThunderRoad5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:04:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, always love a mention of good ol' Murder The Shit Out Of You Island.
summonblood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he meant to say underdeveloped
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and give them all smallpox.
wordsonascreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, Manhattan?
Zardif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australia?
DoktorSoviet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, there's not really any "undeveloped" nations anymore, just isolated tribes (who often prefer to live that way).
greatchocolatecake ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:30:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a lot of sub-saharan Africa is developing rapidly actually.
CWess14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my A.P. Geography class we call them Less Developed Countries, Well Developed Countries, and Developing Countries
indigo_panther ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term Global South and Global North are also used. As a geographer-in-training I prefer Global South/North because we can also use it when thinking about the United States (I can only talk specifically about this) but probably other countries as well.
strong_schlong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps "Underdeveloped" is better.
thetransportedman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Despite the large spectrum of countries in the world," *draws line in sand * "all of you on this side are first world, and all of you on that side are third world."
interestedplayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or it does, emerging markets...
kiradotee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I guess.... developed/less developed/developing countries then.
Chris_Hoiles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
China
melatonia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Antarctica doesn't really seem to be going anywhere infrastructure-wise.
Of course I cancelled my subscription to 'The South Pole Gazette' because those "Doctor Performs own appendectomy" columns were outnumbered 6,000 to 1 by "Penguin Dad Jokes" columns. So who knows how many Starbucks they've got down there these days.
MrSnazzyHat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was under the impression that the BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) were our modern day equivalent to second world. Is this correct?
hoochyuchy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:01:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're pretty much correct. Second world is basically any country that is industrializing itself without the need for foreign investment.
panameboss ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:15:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Second world isn't really used any more in the literature do to it's strong Cold War association.
undrunkscotsman ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Second world is still around, it's the (mostly) post-communist countries that have functioning, stable governments but aren't as developed as the West.
Coffee-Anon ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:56:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's sort of like saying prussia is still around we just call it something different now. Without the cold war and the soviet union, there's no use for the term "second world", which is also one of the reason they're tying to phase out first and third world.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:04:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also feel like "third world" opens a lot of doors for ignorance, you know? Like suddenly all developing countries are as bad as the least developed countries. Developing implies there's progress being made in some way, while third world has more of a wasteland vibe to it. This is all subjective, but I do feel there's a bit of truth to it.
undrunkscotsman ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:30:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say there's still a use. These countries still lag behind the West in a lot of economic factors.
DrunkonIce ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:51:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Sweden is lagging behind the west.
ILoveWildlife ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sweden isn't 2nd world. It's 1st world.
a better comparison would be Kazakhstan
DrunkonIce ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:29:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweden was neutral in the cold war. It's a third world country.
ILoveWildlife ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweden is a developed country, and has universal health care for its citizens.
It is a first world country.
DrunkonIce ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:27:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweden is a third world country though. Last I checked it's not a member of NATO. Switzerland is also a third world country.
ILoveWildlife ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And as people have said repeatedly on this thread, we don't use the cold war definitions anymore.
DrunkonIce ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:44:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Current terminology for poor nations is "developing". Most non NATO and non PACT countries were poor which is why third world is seen as poor. However Sweden and Switzerland are both third world countries themselves.
ILoveWildlife ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:47:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps the 'politically correct' way to refer to them is with that, however I still use 1/2/3rd world references.
1st - developed.
2nd - mostly developed, still developing.
3rd - undeveloped/developing.
There's also a bunch of other factors at play, like citizen's rights, healthcare/welfare programs, and GDP.
Sweden and Switzerland would both be considered 1st world under this system.
They would certainly not be 3rd world. Unless you're using cold war definitions, where 2nd world is reserved for communists, 1st is for the west, and 3rd is everything else.
_throwaway_throwaway ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:24:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is not so much a matter of being politically correct as much as avoiding confusion that your definition is not used in the circles of politics and academia. If you want to use your defenitions when talking to your neighbours over the fence go ahead and do that, but you can not expect anyone to understand that anyone beside you would understand what you are trying to communicate.
ILoveWildlife ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:25:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're on an askreddit thread. We're not talking about academia.
_throwaway_throwaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet somehow I'm the one with the upvotes in this exchange.
ILoveWildlife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:56 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry? that doesn't really mean anything lol
Sean951 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:45:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're proving the point that you don't know what you're talking about.
ILoveWildlife ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:02:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry you can't follow simple logic.
Sean951 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:20:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What logic? Sweden is literally third world. They did not aligned with NATO, they did not aline with the Warsaw Pact. It's straight up the definition.
Coffee-Anon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:23:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say there's not. Why both with cold war boundaries when trying to describe how developed a country is.
undrunkscotsman ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because the cold war has lasting economic and geopolitical effects?
rtxan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:12:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you say that, but if you lived in a post-communist, now western-leaning country, you might've changed your mind. here, second world is used as a term to describe countries which remained under the Russian influence after the Soviet Union collapsed, as opposed to the countries who turned to west, and joined NATO and/or EU.
guess why we call such countries Second World..
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:38:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Coffee-Anon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that was established in the original comment
ILoveWildlife ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:57:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2nd world is "communistic/russian controlled"
It's a lower quality of life than a 1st world nation, however it's not quite as low as a 3rd world nation.
Many places in eastern europe would be considered "2nd world"
John_Wilkes ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 17:06:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In economics it's generally considered to be:
1) Developed/Advanced economies (USA, UK, Germany etc)
2) Emerging economies (China, Brazil etc)
3) Developing economies (Nigeria, Ghana etc)
The idea that sub-Saharan Africa isn't developing is ridiculous. Places like Ethiopia and Nigeria have very high growth rates. Most of the continent is catching up - only a couple of exceptions like Zimbabwe aren't.
Vaulter1 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:46:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it will be rather interesting to see if this changes in the future. Some people forget that in the early 90's Zim was seen as a shining success story for Africa and was labelled the "bread-basket of Africa" by some economists.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:03:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rhodesia was the bread basket of Africa, Zimbabwe is a different story
John_Wilkes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:50:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually he's right. Zimbabwe continued Rhodesia's economic success for a long period into Mugabe's rule. For a long while the UK provided aid to the country on the unwritten condition it didn't touch the white-owned farms until New Labour stopped the payments after 1997. In addition, Mugabe didn't want to hurt white people in Zimbabwe during South Africa's apartheid period, because it would strengthen the hand of the apartheid government to say "this is what happens when you give into black rule". Of course, after 1994 that wasn't an issue.
anotherMrLizard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:24:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think Nigeria is classed as an emerging economy now, GDP-wise at least.
John_Wilkes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The two metrics that matter for this are typically GDP per capita and export diversity, and Nigeria performs poorly on both.
FerdiadTheRabbit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:48:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is China even in the 2nd bracket anymore?
John_Wilkes ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:50:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - GDP per capita is about $9,000, compared to $20,000+ which is roughly the bracket for developed economies.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 19:58:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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aRVAthrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How so? Please elaborate.
There is a degree at which an economy advances to and above a certain specified level of growth (~$20,000+ GDP per capita for developed countries), and therefore has "advanced to a specified degree"...which is the literal definition of the word "developed".
Coming_Soon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm not sure what the person above is stating but I can share some issues with using the term โdevelopedโ and โdevelopingโ to describe countries- Iโm an econ major so I agree with those terms when discussing states from an economic standpoint but when it comes to policy making and trying to understand the world, it can have a really bad effect, mainly because the terms are so value-laden.
This terms imply that there is a linear progression to the ideal state and that one day we will all live in neoliberal democracies with similar structures, despite the cultural, traditional and structural differences that currently exist. It gives โDevelopedโ states an authority over others because if country X is developed it is obviously better than country Y, country X should thereby teach country Y how to be a better country. You can look up the history of the Structural Adjustment Programs in Africa to see how badly this can backfire.
It also dismisses the autonomy and successes of those states. You can see examples in this thread of unaware people stating there are areas that are completely undeveloped or are slowly developing, however the reality is those states have greater economic growth than many โdevelopedโ states. This idea has carry over, when politicians, NGOs or businesses discuss global relations they can have this in the back of their mind, it results in the perception these states need outside help and outside interference as they are unable to do it themselves; and maybe in some cases this is true. But when the interference ignores the local level of issues it will likely backfire or be less successful as even those trying to help donโt really understand the complexity of each states circumstances. By calling a state under-developed or developing it reinforces the idea that the state is unable and ignorant- and ignores any knowledge it does have.
aRVAthrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the commenter originally didn't refer to state, they referred to economies. They the person above chimed in and said "Referring to first world nations as developed is just silly." It isn't and that's not what was even being said. We're talking about economies, not national maturity.
Coming_Soon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true, I wouldn't say it's silly but I'd still argue 'developed' isn't the best term for describing economies, it implies that developed states are done improving.
Although we are quite literally discussing semantics and I guess the terminology is working for now.
GreenStrong ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:20:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is a mistake to think of sub-Saharan Africa as not developing. Most Sub Saharan Africans have cell phones and the most developed parts have an excellent mobile banking system.
Other essential components of development, like household electricity and safe water, are less widespread, but every area that isn't being actively destroyed by warfare is developing. Development is non- linear, with high tech existing in the midst of abject poverty, but communication can do as much to improve people's lives as anything. In fact, poor people themselves demonstrate how highly they value cell phones by buying them when basic necessities are scarce. They gain economic opportunity greater than the cost of cell service.
Vaulter1 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:47:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anecdotally, it's a damn sight better than it's been in the US until quite recently.
Edril ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:11:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sub-saharan Africa would definitely resent you saying they are not taking strides to become developed.
Kyle700 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:46:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sub Sahara Africa is most certainly not undeveloped. I mean, there are a rather large amount of people living in SSA. there are governments (albeit corrupt), commercial operations, towns etc etc. It's not really correct to say they are undeveloped. Maybe something like the far Canadian north or Antarctica.
iCUman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:42:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's true that even "underdeveloped" and "undeveloped" have given way to new terminology, but SSA is considered "undeveloped", or to use the updated terminology, "least developed country" (LDC). When someone is referring to an undeveloped economy, it doesn't mean that commerce doesn't exist, rather most commerce is centered around the harvesting of basic resources that are then transported to developed nations capable of converting those resources into finished goods.
Kyle700 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont know. I'm not sure I agree with this. SSA is quite big. How can you generalize the whole region like that? Espeically in 2017, I wouldn't consider almost any country "undeveloped", just varying levels of development.
pistolpeteza ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:47:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
South Africa is part of BRICS - 5 Major emerging national economies. Not undeveloped - sorry.
iCUman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:27 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's great and all, but we were discussing Sub-Saharan Africa, not South Africa.
pistolpeteza ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:34:09 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm not sure if you are trolling me or just stupid.
iCUman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:25 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I guess I must be stupid. Last I checked, there were 47 countries in Sub-Saharan Africa. One country being an emerging economy doesn't make the entire fucking continent emerging.
1312_143 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:04:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world_countries.htm
skybluegill ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:03:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nigeria, a subsaharan African country, is developing rapidly and is the 21st largest economy in the world
BeforeTime ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:29:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A term for what you call "undeveloped" used is underdeveloped.
greatchocolatecake ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:32:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a lot of sub-saharan Africa is developing rapidly. They are starting from very far behind but most African economies are growing very quickly.
pipsdontsqueak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Undeveloped would be like a small unsettled island somewhere that no state has claimed. It's all just developing or developed now.
ThereIsBearCum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:36:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sub-Saharan Africa is definitely developing. I don't know why you'd think it isn't.
maran999 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:38:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be surprised at how develloped some places in sub saharan Africa is. I mean of course, you still have slums rampant with disease, war, famine and no electricity, but there are also modern cities with an emerging middle class, even if it is comparatively small. Kenya comes to mind. Pretty much everywhere in Africa we are seeing some improvement, with a lot less people living in poverty.
ma-c ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are no countries not developing in this classification. If a country is not developed, its economy is changing (even if in shambles) hence developing.
Expected_Inquisition ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
almost every non-developed country on earth is experiencing development. There are certainly countries which are experiencing this phenomenon more intensely than others, but North Korea is probably the only country on earth that truly doesn't develop. Maybe a "failed state" like Somalia, but even that isn't truly accurate. Cell phones, cars, automated construction equipment, etc has made its way to almost every corner of the globe. The industry term for countries you're equivocating to the "third world" is "least developed countries" because it isn't accurate to call them undeveloped.
Suburbanturnip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its just developed and developing, with the cut off point between the two being a country having a HDI (Human development index) of 800, which is a quantifiable difference as opposed to a gut feeling of "poor".
sailoorscout1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's ridiculous to call most of sub Saharan Africa underdeveloped. Pure, wilful ignorance.
Neffarias_Bredd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of academics are even moving away from developing and developed. Global North and Global South are two that I hear most often.
FunkMasterE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's more like:
First World = Developed Countries
Second World = Developing Countries
Third World = Developinging Countries
MrCrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well, you'd be incorrect, but language is always evolving. People can legitimately use literally as an intensifier for figurative subjects. Maybe someday you'll be right again.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So people can literally use literally in an non-literal sense? That's literally bananas!
MrCrash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shudders
Gwinbar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bit of an euphemism, really. I believe the term used to be under-developed countries until they changed it to developing.
whirlpool138 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saudi Arabia is a developed country and they are considered part of the classic Third World naming scheming. They are one of the last countries with a monarchy in place.
nipplepotamus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brazil is considered a third world country
Burnt_Salad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think Brazil is classified as "newly industrialized".
MMantis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brazil would be considered a "newly industrialized" developing country, among several others, and that's a way you can make a distinction with the other developing countries that are a lot less developed.
panameboss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly not. They've been industrialised for decades. After all just look at ISI for an example.
MMantis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a technical term. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newly_industrialized_country
panameboss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but it's kind of misleading in Brazil's case due to their high HDI but relatively low GDP per capita.
MMantis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll defer to the experts on this one.
DoYouWant_the_Cheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've took a developmental economics class and the term used was usually "emerging market/economy" for countries like India and developing for countries in sub-saharan Africa
twowaysplit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
first and second can also be referred to as More Developed Countries and Lesser Developed Countries
ChickenInASuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should definitely be the case. There are levels to "developing" - Vietnam, for example, is still a third world/developing country by definition but they are definitely on the up-and-up and are probably going to end First-World in maybe a few decades' time. South Africa is practically on the cusp on being First World, and actually are by some definitions - they have the infrastructure and industry of a first world country but are kept from officially obtaining that status by their overwhelming income inequality. Cambodia, in contrast, is one of the poorest nations on the planet.
All three of these countries are classed as "developing" but are at very different stages if it. The simple, two-option "developing/developed" classification has always struck me as being overly simplistic.
PM_ME_WILD_STUFF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, the modern term developing countries comes from someone wanting people to donate money to help with projects in those countries. When the term third world countries didn't really appeal to investors the term developing countries was coined.
Undeveloped countries is just a spin-off from developing countries and means the same thing. Second world doesn't have a word for it.
DonatedCheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Failed state.
rocky_whoof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some use "developed", "developing" and "under-developed" to distinguish between poor countries with growing economies and what one might call "a complete mess of a country".
But all of these are politically incorrect in their own way.
top_ofthe_morning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MEDC : More Economically Developed Country
LEDC : Less Economically Developed Country
iCUman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a few theories in political science, but I always found the periphery theory to make the most sense. The relevant terms there are core (deveoped) - semi-periphery (underdeveloped) - periphery (undeveloped). The theory is geopolitical in nature (meaning that location is an important factor in political and economic development), so it's rare to have peripheral nations directly border core nations (since the mere proximity to a core would transfer economic benefits that would typically propel a peripheral nation into the semi-periphery).
The exception here is eastern Europe, but it's also a good test for the theory. Most of these economies are only ~30 years old, and their progress over that time has far surpassed what most peripherals are capable of accomplishing in the same period.
yomama500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the case with China and other similar countries. I think the term for it is 'emerging market'
RMS_sAviOr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So a couple of issues: first and foremost, I think there is a strong case to be made that all countries are changing (whether they are "developing" implies a sort of positive movement, and to avoid arguments about what actually is a "positive" change, I would just use the word change). There are very few countries that are sedentary, so the real issue is not that there are "developing countries" that are not developing, but rather so-called "developed countries" that continue to change. The idea that a country is "developed" implies that it has reached some sort of "end goal" and a cease of changes, which I do not think anybody would say about the United States or European countries that are commonly called "developed." They continue to change (for better or for worse), and a better set of terms (better than 1st, 2nd, and 3rd world or the prevailing "Developed vs. Developing") would more adequately reflect those changes.
Secondly and somewhat building off that, both the "1st, 2nd, and 3rd World" and "Developed vs. Developing" nomenclatures have obvious issues that stem from paternalistic and imperialistic sentiments. But the specific names of "1st, 2nd, and 3rd World" come from a (paternalistic and imperialistic) characterization of the world into the U.S. and their allies, the U.S.S.R. and their allies, and the non-white people of the world. The "meaning" of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd World has changed a bit (although I don't think anyone really will use the terms in the way you're describing) and -- as the original comment pointed out -- the "2nd world" has fallen out of favor because the U.S.S.R. and their allies have fallen apart.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there are no losers, only winners who haven't got there yet
now drink your warm milk and go to bed, little Billy
Dick_Butt_Kiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First world = developed Second world = developing Third world = underdeveloped
lobster_conspiracy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody wants to call the large bottom tier "undeveloped", so they are called "developing". At this point in history, there are just a handful in the middle tier, so the tier is called by its collective members: BRICS(+TM).
AutoMoberater ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was deployed we had people working on the base from different middle eastern countries and they were called TCN's which stands for third country national. So while your definition makes sense and is less insulting that's not how the term is used.
RockFourFour ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:19:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the third in TCN was literally referring to them being from an outside country (not Iraq/Afghanistan or part of coalition forces). A third party. Not a third world country.
Unless i totally read your post wrong.
AutoMoberater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe that was the intent but that's definitely not how it's interpreted or explained when we got there.
SuaveTrout ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've literally started having people call them OCNs for Other Country National as a result of people getting upset at the implications of this.
AutoMoberater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense
Curlydeadhead ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:03:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in elementary school I remember Canada was a 2nd world country and only the US and England and maybe one other were 1st world countries. Not sure where Canada stands now.
_throwaway_throwaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where did you go to school?
_throwaway_throwaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where did you go to school?
panameboss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wat
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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panameboss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or correct in general.
Altostratus ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:49:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, from what I understand from my friends who study international development, these terms are now politically incorrect. Developed indicates a hierarchy, as if developed countries 'have it all figured out' and developing countries are just struggling to catch up. I believe 'majority world' is the new term as these countries make up the majority of the world's people and land.
JuniataEagle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eyy, came here to say this. Developed/developing obscures the fact that rich countries stay rich by keeping poor countries poor.
majinspy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:36:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...really. That's it? Inventing electricity, flight, and computers didn't have a damned thing to do with it?
JuniataEagle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get me wrong, those things (and others) absolutely gave us the advantage to begin with. But if rich countries buy all the poor countries' raw materials for a pittance, turn those materials into turbines and aeroplanes and laptops (all of which, as you're right to point out, are important if you want to get rich), and sell those manufactured goods back to them at x10 the price, then they'll always be giving more money to us than they're keeping for themselves to spend on hospitals and schools.
Obviously that's just a tl;dr of a huge body of theory that leaves out a whole bunch of nuances and grey areas, and it doesn't mean that rich countries are evil for taking advantage of the opportunities they've had in the past, but it's hard to deny that when it comes to 'development', the deck is stacked against countries that are already poor.
majinspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not what I see. I see vast wealth of natural resources being far more valuable than the labor of the people.
In such a situation a leader can be outrageously wealthy if they just control that resource. The people, to such a leader, are merely a problem to solve with bread and circuses or military force. The wealth of modern democracies is largely in their people. In many other places, it isn't.
Dakotaequalsyes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:39:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're going over this right now and the three core developmental stages are less developed(third world/Ethiopia/Iran ) newly industrializes(second world/Mexico/China ) and more developed(first world/USA/Sweden)
Cerres ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The in between is called โnewly developed/industrialized countriesโ
StePK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I usually hear "Global North" for developed countries and "Global South" for developing.
majinspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This all feels like attempts to obscure an inescapable truth: Countries that are rich, stable, democratic, mostly free market and generally follow the rule of law, and countries that are poor, corrupt, undemocratic, unstable, and don't have generally free markets.
TechniChara ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:56:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Developing/Developed are too simple though. What happens when a country regresses? Or what if parts of it are not very developed, but other parts are new and modern like India and China?
-Don_Corleone- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard/read "Majority World Country" to refer to "Developing" countries since, as the name implies, most countries fall under that criteria.
Saxon2060 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:41:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In A-level geography (circa 2006-8) we were told:
MEDC (More economically developed countries)
LEDC (Less economically developed countries)
and I think NEDC (newly economically developed countries e.g. China)
Sommanker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:53:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had NIC instead of NEDC, Newly Industrialised country
TheMSensation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GCSE geography was the same thing (c. 2004-05).
ahaus101m ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Second World was the Soviet Bloc.
abcPIPPO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if a country is neither developed nor developing?
SMURGwastaken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally every country is developing by definition. Some are more developed or developing at a different rate but every country is developing to some extent. We aren't sat here in the West thinking 'gee we've reached end-stage civilization let's not develop any new things'.
majinspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So Somalia from 1970-2017 was "developing"?
SMURGwastaken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, just extraordinarily slowly.
majinspy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It went from a peaceful country that was a model of post colonial democracy to the poster child of a failed state.
grenudist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's really no good term. I've heard Global South for Third World, but Afghanistan and Australia would like a word with you.
SMURGwastaken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think developing and developed is worse. It's such bullshit, as if no development is occurring in the West because we've already reached peak development. Yeah fuck it guys, let's not develop any more - let's just stay put and stagnate.
I prefer 'more developed' and 'less developed'.
hawkwings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Developing seems rather optimistic. What if it is not improving? It is better to describe where a country is now instead of trying to predict the future.
godshammgod15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in public health and now our preferred term is low- and middle-income countries as opposed to developing.
Log7152 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow just today I had a geography class on developed and developing countries and my teacher said that those were the replacement terms for first world and third. If there aren't really second world countries anymore then it doesn't make sense to have third ones. What a coincidence.
SWEEETdude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's shifted further too.
We now have high, medium, and low income countries. The Global South isn't fond of being referred to as developing so we try to avoid the term. It's less-developed countries or LDCs if you must.
Vulturuvarnar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:12:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those make no sense though; rich countries are developing.
Coffee-Anon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:00:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're defined terms, they've been assigned new specific meaning so you don't have to use 2 sentences to describe the exact level development the country you're referring to has.
Vulturuvarnar ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:03:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I'm saying is that the terminology is a bit silly.
I don't think you're right that they have specific definitions; I've never heard of such a thing. They're being phased out in a lot of institutions.
Coffee-Anon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:21:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
developed and developing are being phased out? In favor of what? Even if they are, they have specific definitions in relation to countries.
PointyOintment ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of replies to this comment answer that.
Vulturuvarnar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe someone somewhere has a specific definitions, but there's no widely agreed-upon definition. e.g. the UN doesn't have a definition for the terms.
Coffee-Anon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the CIA does. Regardless what were your talking about when you said certain institutions are phasing them out?
Vulturuvarnar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://blogs.worldbank.org/opendata/2016-edition-world-development-indicators-out-three-features-you-won-t-want-miss
Catshit-Dogfart ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/iamverysmart
OutFromUndr ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:17:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. "More developed countries" and "Less developed countries" makes more sense.
Vulturuvarnar ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:19:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, just, yknow 'rich countries' and 'poor countries'
cake_flattener1 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:23:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or even just "Us" and "Them."
SalamandrAttackForce ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:22:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's about infrastructure. Developing nations literally don't have some of the necessary infrastructure that they need, like roads and hospitals and running water in parts of the country
Vulturuvarnar ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:38:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not all about infrastructure.
At the end of the day, a lot of it is about $$$$$
SalamandrAttackForce ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:47:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it kind of is. It's based off of the industrial base and the Human Development Index. Infrastructure and buildings are how you get from A to B. If there was money to make these thing, they'd be made and money would be generated. Development and infrastructure is the physical representation of money
DatDinkelberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I graduated from school in germany two years ago and my teacher actually discussed this topic. She told us about the history of the term and we discussed if it is a term you should use or not.
yakovgolyadkin ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:28:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The more common terms in use now that were made to replace the outdated 1st/3rd world are the Global North (developed countries) and the Global South (developing/undeveloped countries).
Here's a map of the divide.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:39:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, come to think of it I've never even heard anyone refer to a nation as "Second World" before.
splattypus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:35:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard the likes of Brazil or Venezuela, countries that are mostly developed and modernized but plagued with political and economic strife, referred to as 'second world'
TheCatOfWar ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:07:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, Earth is the third world from the sun so aren't all countries third world countries? :D
Scumbag__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the first time I've laughed on reddit in a while. Thanks :)
TheCatOfWar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, thanks :)
hascogrande ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:29:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have changed Maoโs definitions
april9th ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mao's Three Worlds Theory and the west's 'Three Worlds Model' are actually two different things even if they use similar terminology.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I was one of the only people aware of this. It has always irked me when people say "third world" as a more politically-correct version of "poor." Or say some shit like, "Estonia is actually a developed first-world nation!"
But now that I see this as a top comment on a popular r/AskReddit thread, I can rest assured most people will be bringing it up any chance they get in about a year or so. Thank you... sort of.
zuul99 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:50:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Global North and Global South is like an all encompassing terms. In between are the BRIC(S) Brazil, Russia, India, China (disagree btw) a South Africa (Although often left out). These are states who have rapidly growing economies and future world powers but still lack the basic necessities to be part of the Global North.
Although China is a weird one. The Free Economic Zones (I.e. Hong Kong, Macau) are much different than the rest of China. But as a whole, China carries more weight than Brazil. China has veto power, Brazil does not.
PinchYourPennies ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:55:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term is still relevant, its used to described developing countries but also to describe China. China is described among political scientists as a "first world" in cities and "third world" in rural areas. With China having both elements, its politcal culture becomes very complex... And sadly confusing.
Catshit-Dogfart ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:36:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but like /u/IAmNotScottBakula is saying, those terms are being misused, that's not what they mean.
Dr_Adequate ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:50:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. I thought it went 'Old World' = Europe, 'New World' meant North America, and so the remainder were all lumped together as the 'Third World', primarily being those countries not belonging to and benefitting from the western expansion across the Atlantic into the Americas.
Siorac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was my impression, too! Are we definitely wrong?
Dr_Adequate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. To Wikipedia, Batman! We have research to do!
Silaor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:46:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have any proof and I'm probably biased because it's my first language, but I always thought it came from french:
In french, Third World is said "Tiers Monde" instead of "Troisiรจme Monde".
"Tiers" has the same meanings as "Troisiรจme" but is mostly used for fractions : a third = un tiers, two thirds = deux tiers, etc. "Troisiรจme" for position or ordering : Third law of robotics = "Troisiรจme loi de la robotique".
But in old fashioned french, you can find Tiers used to express ordering. One such instance is the French Revolution, where Louis XVI, seeing the country fall apart, called for the "รtats Gรฉnรฉraux" : a call for representatives of all french people to gather. These representatives where divided in three categories : "Noblesse", representing people with titles, "Clergรฉ", representing religious powers, and "Tiers รtat" : the others (from rich merchants to farm hands),those that don't really matter.
So when I heard of third world countries (pays du Tiers Monde), I always took it to mean "Those who are not powerful enough to matter", like the "Tiers รtat" wasn't supposed to.
Imperial-Green ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:04:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt forget there is also a concept of the Fourth World. Peoples or cultures that donโt have a national state. Kurdistan comes to mind and the forth world concept might be applicable for Native Americans.
Scumbag__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would the Catalan people call themselves fourth world?
Imperial-Green ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to this they check one criteria but not all. So I suppose no. But, Iโm no expert in this area. My area of expertise is oversleeping, eating hamburgers and avoiding arduous tasks at work.
Scumbag__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good to meet someone who shares my series of expertise. Thanks for the link :)
Eunitnoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/fifthworldproblems
TeaSeaLancs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a GOOD MANS
asg0noir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was Sweden and Switzerland regarded as third world? Or something else entirely?
nullstring ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No no. They would largely just not be part of the equation.
The OP is wrong about the definition of third world. Third world would be post-colonial countries.... which obviously Sweden and Switzerland are not...
april9th ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Cold_War_alliances_mid-1975.svg
You're confusing two different theories.
One refers to First World West/NATO, Second World Socialist/Warsaw Pact, and Third World Unaligned States. This wasn't just an 'other' category, the 'third world' led by states like Yugoslavia, Sweden, and others did try to forge a path for these states.
The term you're thinking of has more in common with Mao's Three Worlds Theory, which splits the world into a First World of superpowers, a Second World of lesser states, and a Third World of exploited states.
Funnily enough, what we use today in terms of 'third world' is closer to Mao's definition than our own.
Gm_Kaiser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huge pet peeve of mine is when people use "third world" just to refer to poor countries. Like you said, the term never had to do with a country's income.
anus-penis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet the third world is the only one not to have had a war
KilowogTrout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Cold War is making a comeback, so we should be good!
interkin3tic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it had something to do with first person/second person/third person.
First person = "We" = We the western world opposed to communism
Second person = "You" = You the communist world we're stopping
Third person = "They" = We will protect them in the non-allied world from you
I can't immediately find anything to support this online, all the top google hits are just explaining that it came from the cold war era (duh). But it kinda makes sense and I'm not immediately finding any other explanations.
Can anyone out there confirm or deny that's what it came from? Wouldn't be surprised either way.
Targettio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Arguably is still applicable as a means of highlighting the gap between the relative the different nations.
Cinemaphreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow - I grew up & became an adult in what turned out to be the end of the Cold War, yet I did not know this is where "third world" came from. I thought it was entirely about economics, i.e. "third world" were the ones that were still developing their economies.
Cue "The More You Know" logo (which I also grew up with LOL)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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nullstring ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.. As they should. That's not what it means.
LordKutulu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the difference between first and third world was the presence of a nuclear program.
strawberry36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did not know this. This is actually really fascinating!
gigu67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha I want to use politically correct in this context just to piss people off.
"The Canadian province of Yukon is..."
"Excuse me, that's not politically correct....Yukon is a territory"
CaptainAubvious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not being old enough during the 80's and 90's this is interesting.
I was taught that it referred to the economic sector the country fell into; raw material collection / farming (3rd world), production and industrial (2nd world) , and finally service based economies (1st world).
kruimeltje ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "First World" didn't only refer to the United States. But to the Nato which included the United States but also many European countries.
Nekkoru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Scott Bakula?
RedditorLink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered why there aren't any Second World countries. This perfectly explains why.
moistfuss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it's basically a claim of superiority over the 'third-world'; basically a new term for 'savage'.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, from what I recall, second world refers to countries that are under the influence of, or are communist. I think that too is a dated term. China has democratic (ish) city spheres that operate nearer to the US or European countries, in addition to a few others.
I would get into Cuba, but my opinion would be biased, not by origin of myself, but in regards to the immigration interventions and enforcement I have been a part of.
Imperator_Knoedel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lolwut
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not democratic, capitalistic. I'm a dummy
werker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's truly taken on new meaning at this point
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We use the Maoist definitions. Which predate the NATO definitions.
MrSillyDonutHole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered about this, thanks!
JITTERdUdE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also noticed a lot of people use it to differentiate between European nations and everyone else with the exception of a few wealthier countries. Even then, they still tend to exclude Slavic and Balkan countries too from the rest of Europe as being "third-world". So in other words it's just become another way to assert certain Europeans/Americans as "superior".
revkaboose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd argue that the Cold War is still very real but just put on hiatus. Look at the largest psy-ops in the 20th century sitting in the White House.
A_tusken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Chinese coined the terms, basically saying, "I guess we're the Third World, not concerned by the Cold War, and most of the world is with us."
vba7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nowadays it simply changed its meaning.
I_had_lasagna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just like the Left/Right political spectrum harks back to revolutionary France.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer "third world" because "developing" is misleading. Most countries on Earth have been developing forever, and will probably never become "developed" in our lifetime.
KinkyFatMidgets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Model UN we have to refer to third world countries as the "Global South" and first world countries as the "Global North"
Fluent_In_Subtext ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You hinted at it when you said "developed", but I believe the sociological terms becoming more popular are developed, developing, underdeveloped, and oil-rich countries.
Purplociraptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey. I don't know if you know this, but the Cold War is still going on. It's just not with the full USSR anymore.
Lurkerking2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Switzerland is technically a third world country and that cracks me up
yashredy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For example India was 3rd world due it being Non-Aligned to the major powers
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. TIL.
fizzgigmcarthur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recall, in college, using the term โThird Worldโ talking about a documentary on poverty I had seen and one of our professors from the Philippines happened to be walking by and he chewed me out for the term. โWhat world are you talking about?โ
I never really used it again. Itโs probably better to remember we all live in the same world.
photolouis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It kills me that I can't find a reference to this, but before the third world name became popular, it was in comparison to the old world (firmly established nations) and the new world (newly developed nations).
imlow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in the 80s and was taught that the world ranking was based entirely upon how developed a country was, based on a number of criteria such as mortality, access to healthcare, education, etc.
I distinctly recall a table in a Geography textbook listing out countries and how they were classified, based on how many of the criteria they met. All Western European countries, the US, Canada, Australia, etc were First World, the USSR, a number of Central and South American, and some Asian were Second World and virtually all African and most Asian were considered Third World.
nels5104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So North Korea isnโt third world at all!
iCy619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you.
I've wondered for too long, what a "second world country" would be/is.
Too lazy for Google, I figured it would be a TIL eventially.
Ninja edit; removed you
nihonphysics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that there's also the term 4th world. which referred to places that that were semi-countries. territories not controlled by a governing body, or not recognized by other countries. not 100% on this, so don't quote me on it
fleshhook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As many have pointed out, this one definition of a set of terms used by different people in recent history. Our usage is more in line with Mao's references to exploited states.
Collide-O-Scope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find it so bizarre that when I was in elementary and high school (80s to mid-90s), none of my teachers new what the whole First World/Third World thing meant. I remember it getting asked at least a couple of times, and the best response we were given was that the First World represented developed nations like the U.S., Japan, or France (as examples). The Third World, we were told, were poor and undeveloped nations like Ethiopia (at the time). The Second World was considered developing nations, which fell somewhere in the middle.
I honestly believed this explanation for years after I finished high school until I read something in the mid-2000s that actually explained the real meaning.
lumpypotato1797 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah! So Second World does exist!
Chaff5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was always under the impression that first world meant nuclear power and industrial and third world was neither industrial or nuclear. Second world would industrial non- nuclear.
uhlayna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
FancyATitWank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex (from the Netherlands) says that Europe is first world, US is second world. I'd say questionable/localized education but pretty sure it's just assholery.
timthetollman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong. You hear developing counties now instead of third world.
turtlebear787 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually catch myself saying third world some times. It's still used often but is slowly being replaced with "less developed"
rocky_whoof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "developing countries" is the correct term for what people mean when they say "third world". I mean Switzerland is (or rather was) technically part of third world, but that's not what people mean...
RedditSkippy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this. I remember learning about the โsecond worldโ in the 1980s. I was explaining this to some much younger colleagues recently and they had no idea what I was talking about. I think it was somewhat outdated even when I learned it.
limmme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In swedish we use the terms I-country and U-country for industrial (industri) country and development (utvecklings) country. Refering to countrys being pre or post an industrial revolution.
GimmickyBulb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if itโs been said, but that, in fact, dates back to the Third Estate (the breadless) of the French Revolution.
generalbobbajo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember correctly the correct terms now are โglobal northโ and โglobal southโ for developed and undeveloped countries, respectively.
slayer_of_idiots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't true at all. It refers to parts of the world that are not part of the Old World (Europe/Asia/Mediterranean) or the New World (Americas), but the 3rd world.
jn2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know that. Interesting.
toxicgecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IF anyone is curious I believe the official terms now are HIC and LIC (High income country and low income country).
wtfisthat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's ok, it might be coming back.
toeonly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like we may be headed back into a cold war. So this term might come back to its original meaning., or more likely we will come up with a new term for the uninvolved parties.
roastbeeftacohat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard fourth world being used to describe perto states, and fifth to describe nations that arn't part of the industrial/development paragrim.
Unicorns-and-Glitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother always says I live in a third world country, but I always remind her that Kazakhstan is a second world country. It burns her up.
ryanmcstylin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have been trying to tell convince people of this for ages.
Glip-Glops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Russia is working as hard as it can to recreate that same political situation. I think its still appropriate to refer to Russia as 2nd world.. i mean.. they aren't 1st world in terms of economics, politics, or social.
smash-things ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have always wondered about this
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nowadays, its developed and developing nation, right?
Tripplite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Emmanuel Wallersteinโs โWorld System Theoryโ
BonquiquiShiquavius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that makes so much more sense. I grew up during the Cold War, and I somehow never thought to ask what the second world was.
Stimonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The replacement term is emerging market vs. emerged market. It's pretty capitalist.
Aeroncastle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
" it refers to a political situation that has not existed in almost 30 years."
Russia just elected the president of the United States, Russia won the cold war
antediluvian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit. Define something and say it's wrong. That may have been the definition 70 years ago but hasn't been the def. for the last three decades. There are still 3rd world and 4th world countries. Knock the shit out.
coleman57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially now that the POTUS gets his orders from a former KGB Lieutenant Colonel.
FriendsSuggestReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my junior year history teacher where the term 'third world' comes from. He couldn't tell me. Thanks for answering my question 13 years later.
lnig0Montoya ยท 1623 points ยท Posted at 15:17:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filming something.
DA_KING_IN_DA_NORF ยท 361 points ยท Posted at 16:16:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God, I can't remember the last time I've seen a roll of film, let alone used one
LeicaM6guy ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:06:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should see my fridge. I have very little room for, you know, actual food.
Franzj0sef ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:13:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
GonnaEatYourIcecream ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:46:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in a movie theater about 8 years ago and we used film still. It was a bitch to thread but such a cool experience!
Nerdn1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad worked as a projectionist before everything went (mostly) digital. I remember those huge platters. For really popular new releases they had to run the film feeding out of one projector to another one so they could be viewed in multiple theaters at once (I don't recall how many projectors they could put together like this).
liamemsa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:14:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theoretically infinite, or the total number of theaters within the building, if there were the appropriate rollers installed.
Usually, though, this would just be run between the three or four "big screen" theaters (the ones in the middle that housed the best equipment for the newest releases) whereas the other, smaller theaters would be playing the other films.
Films that required multi screen simultaneous plays were once a decade style films. Lord of the Rings, Phantom Menace, etc. There aren't too many of them.
IAMA former 35mm film projectionist.
icannevertell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pirates of the Caribbean on opening night, my friend was a projectionist doing this setup. About 20 minutes in, the film snapped. I and several hundred people had to get refunds. He said it was a nightmare.
liamemsa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's surprising that a brain wrap would have caused a show cancellation. Usually unless there's significant damage it can be repaired in like 5 minutes.
Now, dropping a film, that's a show cancellation (might as well cancel all of the shows for the rest of the day as well).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Passion of the Christ.
DisposableAccount09 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theaters just get hard drives now.
ShoobyDeeDooBopBoo ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:04:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film photography is a growing market these days. Check out /r/analog
DerKeksinator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, Kodak revieved Ektar and Polaroids are back too.
Franzj0sef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, here's a brand new 35mm camera, and another one.
Thebatmann58 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:32:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No its not. Work in a photo lab, had to get rid of our developer machine becuase we were lucky to get one roll a week.
CholentPot ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:46:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We develop at home these days. Or send away.
Back in the bad old days you can get developments and prints for under $5.
If I go to a local lab and want prints it can cost near $20 and that's not counting the scans if I want. I can even go higher!
Lets see, I'd like a roll of slide film developed, pushed a stop, mounted, with prints and scanned. It might come out near $50!
I just buy a kit and do it myself.
MaliciousHH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It depends where you go, I know a place in London that'll do dev+scan on a standard 36 roll of colour negs for <ยฃ4.
Thebatmann58 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I am at we have a send out system now. Get prints and a digital copy of everything on CD for a little less then 20 bucks.
CholentPot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So about 7-8 USD. Not bad.
I can get just the development for $4. Still outpriced for me. I get a kit for about $30 and can crank out about 20 rolls from it. I do the scans myself.
MaliciousHH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like $5, the pound is doing shit atm. Yeah, self-dev is by far the cheapest. My friend is currently converting his shed into a darkroom.
CholentPot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't need a dark room to develop film. Just a small closet or a darkbag for loading film. I have a dark room set up but only for printing.
MaliciousHH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:20:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah I know, but he's going to do a variety of film types and prints. It's always handy to have one.
PeculiarPeter ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:48:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of people still use film! Famous directors, photographers, even hobbyists. Come on over to [r/analog](reddit.com/r/analog) to check out the film photography community!
Cygnus- ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:33:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only use film, I like the vintage quality it has.
novolvere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a gift shop for tourist place where we sell disposable cameras for people that forgot their cameras or whatever.
Sometimes kids come in ask what those are, and I like to ask them if theyโve ever seen one, and approximately 1/20 of them will say yes. The rest will ask me how you use them and how you know if the pictures came out looking good.
Those lucky kids donโt know.
robdouth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the only time I see people handling actual film is in suspenseful movies when it's done by the killer or some creepy weirdo in the movie. It's just an excuse to shoot the creepy character in a red light IMO.
thewaynetrain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:41:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In film school we used some film. Once.
zerocool4221 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still use film in my older camera on slim occasions if that helps. CVS still develops it though it's not 1hr anymore it takes a week because not enough people use it so they got rid of their developing station.
KeybladeSpirit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually worked with a real film reel a few years ago. My grandfather's wife had found some home movies he made on a family vacation and thought my grandmother would want to have them, so they sent the film and projector to us. For some reason my parents thought I'd know how to work the stuff because I'm "real into the technology stuff," so they put me to work on setting it up for my grandmother's birthday party.
csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/analog (I have issues with the name though.)
Now I'm struggling to remember the last time I used a film camera. I know a few pros who use medium format for portrait and wedding work.
vodoun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww, I'll send you a pic of one on the weekend
The theatre where I part-time still has their old projectors/film
RebootTheServer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The film canisters were so useful
pink-pink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure I have ever seen one.
Edit: I was in the projection booth at a cinima once, so there is that.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:47:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for some reason i remember seeing the tubes where you put film a lot but don't remember ever seeing the actual film
ASaucyMonster ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 16:36:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still shoot film. Itโs actually gaining popularity again.
Edit: I also process my own film and print it too.
SpaceTurtle917 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:28:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God Damm not that you mention it I still have 13 rolls of film I haven't developed yet from this summer.
Also r/analogue is pretty cool
Edit: I also develope I just dont print, I scan.
heyitsmecolku ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:05:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if you meant r/analog instead of r/analogue but the former gets a little more traffic. If not then come join us!
ironphan24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:23:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film of what? :D
ahrdelacruz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/analog is also cool!
ASaucyMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a drawer of backlogged rolls. Some are a few years old. Iโll get to them one day.
MrCrash ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:09:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gotta love retro hipsters.
Brawndo91 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:30:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has nothing to do with that. Ever wonder why we have releases of old movies in 1080p and they look fantastic? It's because film has no limitation to its resolution. Compare that to TV, where it's only fairly recently that they're all recorded in HD. Before that, it was all tape. Try to find Everybody Loves Raymond in anything better than 480p. Doesn't exist.
BurritoBooster ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:11:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually this isn't true. There is a chemical resolution. Otherwise you could just film the sky and zoom in until you got a clear shot of a rock on the moon.
ahrdelacruz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:27:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy gets it. An 8mm reel of film won't have the same resolution as a 35mm reel of film, which won't have the same resolution as IMAX or 65mm. Also, saying that old releases of films in 1080p look fantastic is pretty subjective. Not saying I don't like how they look because I do, but they look great because they were shot by professionals and scans of them probably don't look as great as the original prints did when being projected.
TheMSensation ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:43:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://rarbg.to/torrents.php?search=Everybody+loves+Raymond
All seasons at 720p. Unsure if upscaled.
Purple_Haze ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:03:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
35mm movie film is about 5 megapixels while 1080p is 2 megapixels, so it should look good. When they start going to 4K thats 8 megapixels and either we will see grain or they will have to process the noise out.
ahrdelacruz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup! Recently got Starship Troopers on 4K and the grain there is evident. Still, it's aesthetically pleasing and suitable for its time.
Ozzdo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:02:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. TIL. I've always wondered how they could make movies that existed before HD technology look so pristine in HD.
reventlov ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:48:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First: videotape wasn't "digital," and the reason that old TV looks worse than old film is entirely economic: old film was projected at room size, and so filmmakers needed to pay for a reasonable resolution in order for their work to look decent. TV was sent over an analog signal with 480 scanlines, interlaced, and displayed on tiny, fuzzy screens, and so it made no economic sense to shoot at any higher resolution.
(And 1080p and 4k releases of old films have a ton of manual work done to clean up the film -- it's not like they can just scan the film and slap it on a Blu-Ray.)
Second: the grain in film creates a practical "resolution," although the pixel-equivalents are stochastically placed rather than gridded. IIRC, for 35mm film you can get a practical resolution equivalent to 50-80 megapixels. The latest generations of 35mm digital still cameras are edging into that range. (Motion cameras are a bit behind, but the latest RED cameras are close.) We're still a long way away from getting a film-equivalent digital medium or large format camera; IIRC, medium format film gets you around 480 megapixel equivalent, and the highest resolution MF digital camera I know of is Phase One's 100MP.
Incidentally, the latest digital cameras also have better dynamic range than film.
Third: you hit optical limits, hard. I shoot a lot with a 5DS R, and it is really hard to actually get the optics to resolve down to single pixels: if nothing else, the plane of acceptable focus becomes incredibly thin -- like, thin enough that if I'm shooting a hummingbird in profile, in bright sunlight where I can stop the aperture down, I can focus on either his beak or his eye, but not both at the same time. You also need really good optics before you're limited by the plane of focus. Again, for medium and large format, you can still get a much better result from film, and more cheaply.
Basically, claiming 35mm film is "better" than digital isn't quite as inaccurate as claiming that vinyl is "better" than CDs, but in a few more years there won't be any non-hipster reason to shoot 35mm film. Medium format and (especially) large format film are likely to remain "superior" to digital for a long time, but they have fundamental limits as well.
Brawndo91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never said tape was digital, I don't know why you have that in quotes. Or that film was better. I guess I would have been more accurate saying that film scales better? I was just trying to succinctly explain why it wasn't a "retro hipster" thing. I don't know as as you on the subject, but I do know that many directors prefer film over digital formats.
instantpancake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is simply not true. At some point, you'll just get a very detailed image of, well, film grain.
happystamps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw an episode of The Gadget Show (UK) where they took an analogue image and blew it up to the size of a house, and did the same with a super fancy digital camera. Resolution on the film was better... Realistically though, you're unlikely to NEED that level of detail all of the time, and the film is bloody expensive.
jimicus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film does have a resolution, but it's in grain rather than pixels. Grain isn't uniformly square like pixels are, and so tends to look rather better.
snoopybg ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are hipsters unaware 4k cameras exist?
genteelblackhole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SLRs, fair play, but Iโm not sure that you can get a digital point and shoot that performs as well as a film one because of the limitations in sensor size. With film, the sensor is the film itself so a 35mm SLR has the same sensor as a 35mm point and shoot.
jimicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
35mm point and shoots (mostly) had terrible lenses.
snoopybg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you trying to convince me consumer film cameras record a better image than a modern 4k dslr?
genteelblackhole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs not what Iโm saying there. Iโm saying that point and shoots have better โsensorsโ with film because the sensor is the film itself. So itโs the same whether you shoot an SLR or a point and shoot. Whereas with digital you can have a full frame DSLR and a point and shoot with very different sensors. So with digital, point and shoots have shit sensors when compared to DSLRs, but with film itโs all equal across the board.
Pseudoboss11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
4k is 8.3MP. A reasonable prosumer camera is 20.8MP.
snoopybg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're talking video here.
Pseudoboss11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why, film photographers are almost always shooting individual images.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:44:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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coffeewithoutkids ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:27:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love working in a darkroom.
Chazzysnax ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:08:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like vinyl, more expensive and inconvenient than its digital counterpart but can produce a higher quality end result and is more appealing to the hobbyist.
pieman3141 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. Digital is technically better in every way. The problem is in the mixing - digital is often mixed at full volume, which results in clipping. Vinyl is often (but not always) mixed at a lower volume, which means more dynamic range.
The tactile feel of vinyl is something people like, though.
Chazzysnax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're talking about mixing during recording yes? Then why is there a notable difference between analog and digital versions of the same song/album that use the same mix?
pieman3141 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some studios do things differently for each medium. Vinyl is considered more audiophile, so it might get a different mix. In reality, digital has a full 96db range, vs 70-80ish dB for vinyl. Most recording equipment hits 80ish dB max anyhow.
hawksgirl4life ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:14:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awesome that you develop and process your own film. I've always thought it would be an incredibly fulfilling experience to develop your own pictures.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:28:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ASaucyMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a dark bag and my bathroom for most of my processing. About $100 upfront but the. Itโs around $1 a roll to develop. Itโs very satisfying and I can push my ISO to some crazy limits. 6400 tri-x BW. Looks a little grainy but not bad.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ASaucyMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the light is very low it does loose a lot. I usually shoot with street lights and those give me a good range. I donโt expect much from 6400 though.
instantpancake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's be honest though, that "gain in popularity" is a teeny-tiny bump in an otherwise steep decline.
As in, a couple dozen of the several thousand feature films produced all over the world every year are still shot on film, and maybe it was one dozen more in 2017.
Edit: Talking about motion picture film here.
twicemonkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:43:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Including in actual films. The trend moved towards digital for a while, but film is coming back again. For example, Wonder Woman was predominantly shot on 35mm
ASaucyMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of 3D films and IMAX is shot on 70mm.
twicemonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3D less so as it's really tricky to get that to work with film. Much easier in digital. And IMAX do still have their 70mm cameras, but they're mostly used by Nolan. IMAX have a digital camera now, and Arri has one they call Arri65, which is a digital format akin to 65mm film resolution
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So some people are still filmiliar with it
WhiteMex90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The front staff down at the Ritz Camera a few cities away looked at me confused when I asked them where their film was a few months back. They had no clue if they even sold film. At a photography store.
Xyranthis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:17:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure your beard and scarf don't get tangled up in the camera strap. sorry
ASaucyMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually use my beard as a camera strap. I braid it and attach clips to the end. It also works a swing and a dog leash. (jk)
Scaryfood ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:54:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of movies are still shot on film though.
instantpancake ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 20:04:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just no. A couple dozen movies per year are shot on film all over the world, but thousands are shot digitally.
I'm aware that people are saying "film is coming back" all over the place, but put into perspective, that really is just maybe one dozen more this year than last year - again, versus thousands shot digitally.
edit: feel free to prove me wrong if you feel the need to downvote this.
twicemonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the same volume, but the trend was almost entirely digital for a while. Film is starting to come back a little, but, you're right, in that digital is still the predominant format. Especially since the Arri Alexa camera has come such a long way now, including a mini version, which is great for attaching to people, vehicles, etc
instantpancake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no - the transition was obviously not suddenly, but film nosedived quickly after the advent of the Alexa in particular. That never changed; if anything, there was said tiny bump in an otherwise steep downward curve for film, which is now celebrated as "film coming back". It's not coming back, it died a tiny bit slower in 2017 than in 2016.
Scaryfood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It certainly has not lost it's relevance though, saying a movie was filmed.
dantooine1977 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:01:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in video production, and we say "filming" all the time. "Video-ing" is not a suitable replacement, recording could be but it is not universally understood. "Shooting" is format agnostic - could be a film or video shoot. However saying the word "shoot" or "shooting" unfortunately now has negative connotations. If someone walks up to a security guard at a business and says "I am here to shoot the CEO" is may not end well. If the same person says "I am here to film the CEO" that is well-understood. So in this case we use the old-timey word because it has universal understanding, despite being technically incorrect.
DutchShepherdDog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lots of artsy, and even some mainstream, directors still film with film though. The Hateful Eight comes to mind as a recent example.
roomandcoke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And many art house theaters pride themselves on showing films. A local one had a 70mm festival recently. And they always list what format a movie is showing on and usually post online when they add a new film reel to their collection.
jb4334 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a ton from film grandfathered into the digital age: cut, rolling, mark, flick, film, print, highlight reel, trailers (they used to be played after the film).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Got that on film!"
mistrali2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And films, like movies.
0800-Meme-Dealer ยท 23641 points ยท Posted at 15:13:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but the save icon being a floppy disk.
Andromeda321 ยท 2420 points ยท Posted at 16:25:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I volunteer for a teen science program, and last year the instructor asked the students "how many of you have seen a real floppy disk?" One or two excitedly said "I have!" The vast majority never have.
But then, the weird thing about that program is realizing you're having conversations about calculus with someone born after 9/11, so realizing most teens haven't seen a floppy disk is usually the least of it.
enigmical ยท 1750 points ยท Posted at 16:58:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn kids can't even answer "Where were you on 9/11?"
HaroldSax ยท 2193 points ยท Posted at 17:12:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"My dad's balls, probably" - some kid.
galacticdude7 ยท 1237 points ยท Posted at 17:17:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this kid has a pretty weak alibi
[deleted] ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 21:06:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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danklymemedmygoodsir ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:13:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh snap
emberaith ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:46:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States
GooseTheGeek ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:29:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially because I saw that kid in his mom's ovaries.
Terry_Pie ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:01:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Can anyone corroborate that?"
"There were a several million others there."
"How can we get in contact with them?"
"Well, they're dead actually..."
"This really isn't looking good for you, son."
LiterallyDeadL0L ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:01:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say he's gonna... Milk it for all it's worth (can't do little sunglasses guy) YYYYEEEEEEAAAAAHHHH
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:56:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐ Zoop!
PocoCarbs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:56:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐
crimeo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:19:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But sperm can't melt steel beams. Nor eggs for that matter (shame on you poster above this poster)
ryan34ssj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get him!
monetovereverything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did it, Reddit.
ais5174 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would be much more sound if he was in Wisconsin and 12.
rlowens ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:54:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, either in both his dad's balls and his mom's ovaries or just his mom's ovaries: men make sperm from scratch as-needed, women are born with all the eggs they will ever have.
So unless he was born around 9 months after 9/11, he was an egg in his mom's ovaries and a glint in his dad's eye.
EducatedMouse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a fetus
SkierBeard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:59:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't one of your mom's eggs a way more likely answer? Men make sperm but women have a set number of eggs. I guess it's doesn't quite roll off the tongue as well.
Khourieat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:20:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Possibly not, though, since sperm don't last that long.
Also that's only half the kid...
AlmanzoWilder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the teacher whipped it out.
8bhizzel8 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:25:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"My dad's balls" - probably some kid.
YoureNotaClownFish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:46:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More accurately: my mothers ovaries.
desrever1138 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My eldest son particularly, considering he was conceived 3 months after.
nongzhigao ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:56:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a sizable enough gap, I feel bad for parents who conceived right around 9/11 and have the opposite of a cute "World Series Champions Cubs baby" story.
Bears_Bearing_Arms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bet they didn't even wear a flag pin to school like the rest of us.
A girl in my class was smart. She started selling flag pins at school. Bet she made a fortune.
DamienWayneIsABitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's even worse than that: sperm expire and are produced. Many of them didn't even exist in that form on 9/11. However, eggs don't, and you're born with your entire supply. So only 50% of them existed.
HaniiPuppy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The milkman's eye."
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:08:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is irrelevant, but I never understand why people make the joke that we started off as sperm, rather than as an egg. I mean, both are incorrect ,yes, but, they're EGGS. Unfertilized eggs, and yet we joke that we were all semen cells first. I wasn't no damn sperm cell, fuck off.
coloneljdog ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:24:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Half your chromosomes came from a sperm cell and half came from an egg. If you want to be really technical, you started off as a "zygote" or an egg that has been fertilized by a sperm.
radwimp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:37:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mitochondria tip the balance in favor of identifying as the egg imo.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because men really like to talk about their dicks and anything related to them
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! The inaccuracy is so annoying.
ItookAnumber4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weren't you 18 on 9/11?
Beersie_McSlurrp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I was born in 1996
AsperaAstra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of them? Probably not even then, they wouldn't have even been produced yet.
mister_pringle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My oldest was literally conceived the week before 9/11. When she was born they were clearing out the whole wing expecting a huge rush of post 9/11 babies. They had 25 rooms with up to 2 mothers for each room.
SpermWhale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somewhere in my dad - some calf.
Camcamcam753 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in Baghdad, you were in dad's bag
GruesomeCola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While that kid was in his dads bag, Osama was in Baghdad. Coincidence!?
SirRogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, me too! I was seven when it happened.
tiptoe_only ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically it's his mum's ovary, since it's the egg that divides and develops into an embryo.
ModularPersona ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Son Im 38 I wwebsite as on the internet when you were a sperm in your daddys balls and before it was the internet
happypolychaetes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sad no one else seems to get this reference.
nongzhigao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...and you didn't even upvote the guy? (unless you did and someone else downvoted...)
EDIT: Can confirm, interesting reference
happypolychaetes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did, but he was already at 0. I DID MY PART
ModularPersona ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thanks for the welcome to message wurd up
Don_Shetland ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 17:16:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid it was, "Where were you when JFK was assassinated?"
John_T_Conover ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 19:09:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There seems to be one of those moments about every 20 years, at least among people I've talked about this with. For my grandparents in the 40's it was Pearl Harbor. In the 60's it was JFK assassination, my mom and grandma watched it on tv together. In the 80's it was the Challenger disaster. Again my mom watched it happen live on tv but this time in a library with about 100 kids and several other teachers. The majority of school aged kids and teachers in this country probably watched that live. The 2000's was 9/11.
Every country has their own, I'm sure the nightclub terrorist shooting in Paris is on that level for them, but this is roughly the American ones in my opinion.
Cyno01 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:09:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is probably a better generational divide than anything arbitrary. If you remember where you were when X happened, youre part of Y generation. For boomers its probably JFK, for millennials its probably 9/11, whatever before us (gen Y?) the Berlin Wall coming down...
IDK what Gen Xs watershed moment was.
ThisIsntFunnyAnymor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:25:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought Gen X's watershed moment was the Challenger explosion.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:57:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That and the Berlin Wall coming down. I remember it on the news, both of them vividly.
ThisIsntFunnyAnymor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See I was barely old enough to remember the Challenger, but I remember that more vividly than the destruction of the Berlin wall.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The decade that followed the significance of that happening was amazing.
spontaniousthingy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah so millennials are gen Y. Before that is X then baby boomers then greatest generation then lost generation. "Gen z" is people born post 2000. So Berlin wall was Xers. Think about every 20 years.
Edit: ok so i checked out the total list. From oldest to newest it's lost generation(ww1), greatest generation/G.I. generation(came of age in depression, fought in ww2), silent generation(born in g depression, some were in ww2, most on Korean and many in vietnam), baby boomers (post ww2),gen X, millenials, gen z
Gavooon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:38:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait I was born post 2000 and I donโt remember the Berlin Wall
spontaniousthingy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:39:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you're gen z. Gen X is the wall
andrew_D1317 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gen z is probably boston marathon bombing for americans?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Columbine was pretty close to gen z and they certainly felt the after-effect on that... that said the Columbia disaster was 2003, Virginia Tech was 2007, Katrina was 2005 (relevant for some areas), Sandy Hook was 2012... If we're talking wordwide the 2015 Paris Attacks, the Coup in Turkey, North Korean nuclear arming, and Fukushima to name a few.
Bishop_of_the_West ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:54:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2008 election? First black president?
spontaniousthingy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both work, but it starts early 2000 so most don't remember it or aren't born yet. Give it till 2030 thrn we probably got one
CobaltFrost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the death of bin Laden. Or looking forward it could be whatever ends up happening with North Korea or the conclusion of Brexit.
QwertyKeyboard67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it wasnโt really a catastrophe or anything so I it wasnโt that big of a deal besides the obvious. There hasnโt been anything significant for Gen Z to remember yet. Me personally, didnโt even hear about the Orlando shooting until about a week until after it happened.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:36:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, Z is 1995 and onward, because milennial is 80-95
spontaniousthingy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what,i saw the cut off of millenial was 2000beacuse it's supposed to be people wh o were born around the turn of millennium. Also a generation is about 20 years
Gen_GeorgePatton ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:56:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder was there one before Pearl Harbor, like the Lusitania or the Titanic? Maybe not due to the speed of information? Abraham Lincoln? Shot heard round the world?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:27:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Titanic probably wouldn't have worked, it wasn't a real time event and the way news traveled would have taken days to fully circulate across the US.
Japan bombs the USA on the other hand spread like wildfire.
Gen_GeorgePatton ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:39:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it probably has to be after information became instant.
InformationMagpie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:29:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'90s was the OJ Simpson slow-speed chase/trial verdict.
Spiritose157 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:54:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it will soon be "where were you when trump got assassinated?"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that day.
DontOpenTilXmas ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:50:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. How'd you find your way onto a computer, great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandpa?
Thealphastab ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:26:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I cried more than you did on 9/11 and I too had no idea what was going on, I also hadn't started speaking yet.
MySayWTFIWantAccount ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:28:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are kids fighting in Afghanistan who don't remember 9/11.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:07:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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moesif ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:54:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't a college student be at least 1 yr old?
JacobLandes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, however they're typically between 18 and 22.
AnimeLord1016 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone really ask this question? I never hear older people talking to one another and hear this question. I think it's more of a meme than an actual question real people ask.
-Reddit_Account- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was home, probably watching cartoons or some shit.
Chikenwangman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was barely 1....
Brownladesh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked this of a 16 year old recently and he said- โI was at the doctors, because when I was a newborn I had problems pooping so the doctor had to massage the poop out of meโ
TheKMethod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On my couch, while my dad wondered what the hell to do with a tiny baby.
EverythingsFineHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People my age have answers to this, even here in Australia, but I have no idea. I was 8 years old. I was probably off playing Spyro and not interested in watching the news.
VIIIMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We recently hired a deckhand that just turned 18. The other day I hear him talking to one of the other deckhands about something he did "back in the day". I thought to myself, "what the fuck is "back in the day" for this guy? When I think of "back in the day", I'm thinking 1984 to 1988.
socratesismywaifu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use remembering 9/11 as my "get off my lawn" cut-off.
Eurynom0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably because they did it!
jfarrar19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are people that can legally (with an adult in the car) drive who weren't even born when 9/11 happened.
Denebula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like, of course I remember where I was, but I rarely ever think about it. The tragedy fetish is real.
roastbeeftacohat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
first day of high school, wasn't terribly surprised by it either.
Fazzeh ยท 802 points ยท Posted at 17:03:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's weird how sharp the divide is. I'm 20. We were still occasionally using floppies when I started using a computer as a small child.
My sister (17) might maybe have seen an old one lying around at some point
Andromeda321 ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 17:13:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I started college in 2004, and still had a floppy drive in the laptop I got for that which I had until 2008. Though I believe I only used it because I got a floppy disk of games from my cousin at one point that included Tetris!
Fazzeh ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:21:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My school still used floppies in the DT department when I was doing my GCSEs (so like 6 years ago?) but that was less a case of floppies being current and more DT having one piece of ancient tech that was only compatible with floppy disks.
TruIsou ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:22:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was last class in university to use punch cards. Went to PDP-11's after that. Used slide rules in high school.
Fazzeh ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 20:28:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was it hard getting to school with all the dinosaurs blocking the road?
Celdarion ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:08:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did DT, literally every piece of equipment was ancient.
Cyno01 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:10:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If i could find a USB floppy drive i could mount internally i would have one in my rig just cuz.
Divio42 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:16:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found an external floppy drive in the old storage closet at work the other day. It still fucking worked.
evilf23 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:18:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still use floppys at work. one of our CNC machines is running an old DOS based firmware and only accepts 3.5" floppy discs to save Z code programs. We tried to upgrade it to accept a USB 2.0 flash drive but none of the conversion kits i tried worked, so we went and bought a brand new 3.5" floppy drive in 2017. It's really, really difficult to find new 3.5" floppy discs, and they go bad pretty quick due to the environment being full extreme dust and heat.
nolotusnotes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:15:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have hundreds of them.
Including the Windows 95 installation box set.
savagemick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Lone_K ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hot/dusty office?
Just put those floppies in a
Refrigerator
bsbbtnh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:52:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon.
cjandstuff ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:48:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Graduated high school in 2000. We were taught a lot of weird stuff. We all used floppies. Pluto was a planet. We were taught that we had to learn cursive, because no college professor would accept a typed paper.
Heck, my first flash drive was 128 Megabytes, and cost $80.
Zip drives, Jazz Drives, etc.
EvilStevilTheKenevil ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:14:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of my high school work was done on a computer. Also, considering how borderline unreadable cursive can be: WHY?
fart_shaped_box ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:29:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas
Edit: My
kirkom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:18:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
now she only serves nachos, damn economy
fart_shaped_box ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:22:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The housing crisis did happen shortly after Pluto was decommissioned as a planet (2006).
Clearly Pluto being decommissioned threw the economy out of whack. /r/shittyaskscience
GSlayerBrian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ourcury?
fart_shaped_box ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oaybe
Fablemaster44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MVEMJSUNP..... please help me, what are you trying to say here? Is it a reference I'm missing
fart_shaped_box ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:53:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mnemonic for the planets while we counted Pluto as one.
Fablemaster44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thanks
robbzilla ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:27:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I'll bet you never saw a 5.25 floppy. Hell, I'm almost 50 and I've only seen 8" floppies in museums.
Fazzeh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:31:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I have kids they'll probably feel the same way about CDs
robbzilla ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:10:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually skipped Blu Rays, because I felt that we were going post-physical on media. I had an argument about this with a friend when the PS3 came out. He told me that there was no way that Blu Ray was going anywhere. I told him 5-10 years tops, and here we are....
itmakessenseincontex ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:24:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up with VHS and the switch to DVD. My family never got on board with blu-ray and as an adult Ive never had a reason to own a dvd or blu-ray player. Crazy what changes in 22 years.
thecolbra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a laserdisc stashed up in a closet.
SykeSwipe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:39:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was having a conversation with a coworker about movies, and when he offered to let me borrow a couple, I declined because I've never had a blu ray player before and never really wanted one. Except that was a lie because I own an Xbox One... Never even considered that until then, and I bought the thing years ago haha.
FullmentalFiction ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:33:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...still buying blurays every other week because streaming isn't lossless and Comcast can't get their shit together long enough for me to watch more than 10 seconds at a time?
Seriously though, I still buy media all the time. The reason is shit disappears from Netflix, Crunchyroll, Amazon, Hulu, etc., but my discs don't. Said services also almost never tell you the length of their license, so you can't even properly plan out a few dozen series to watch, otherwise before you know it your 100 episode series you decided to watch after the one you're currently watching is going away at the end of the month, and you have no hope of ever watching it all before then.
I can also rip blurays to my PC so physical damage won't be a thing either, then use handbrake to compress them so my entire library fits on one external drive. Then I stream them using Plex which doesn't rely on my shitty ISP to give me good bandwidth as long as I'm in the house...So, yeah I guess I "skipped" bluray by buying them and converting them? IDK.
Elubious ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:55:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even know where we can go from downloading and streaming. What if we started putting movies in some sort of box, we can use some sort of tape moving quickly and light to project that image onto a larger screen.
climbtree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something block chain related
SerpentDrago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do have their uses , Ultra HD Blue Rays with HDR .
that file is MASSIVE if ripped . and streaming can't come CLOSE to that high Q.
When dealing with 4k + HDR . You still need blueray
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it's definitely possible to stream that, but it's costly. And many places can't get internet fast enough for that.
SerpentDrago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes i get you can stream a pure uhd blue ray rip , but NO ONE does . its all compressed garbage with low bit rate they claim to be 4k .
Granted x265 comes close
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Netflix does use x265, or at least they tried since it's named in their benchmarks. Streaming has some constraints that you don't need to worry about when ripping (not that these are also true for BluRays, with the only exception being the bitrate limit that can be higher):
The bitrate can't go over a specific "burst" value, at best averaged over a few seconds. This is because you want to allow cheap devices to play your stream correctly without needing to buffer too much (memory requirement and time requirement)
The average bitrate also needs to be smaller than the transmission speed so you can play it in real time, similar to the previous point.
You want to allow people to jump through the stream easily, which means mostly not requiring to download and decode 10 seconds of content to start playing at a random location. This means you're going to use a smaller GOP (group of pictures), and usually force an I-frame every second, which reduces efficiency. Rips can get away with 10 seconds between I-frames, which is going to make random access slower but you might not care much.
BR and streaming needs to be compatible for hardware players, which imposes additional restrictions, some mentioned above like the bitrate, but also resolution, chroma subsampling, color depth, frame rate, number of reference frames, etc.
Though I want to say this doesn't excuse at all why pirate rips suck so bad lately, obviously the bitrate is to blame but it's surprising that the average 1080p rip size has been divided by 4 instead of like improving the quality of it. You can do a very good stream with 4k and x264, the bitrate will be huge but it is possible (though many hardware players won't play it). x265 can hardly achieve real time HEVC coding for 4k, but it's something to blame on HEVC itself I think. There are things you can't easily parallelize so you lose a lot of efficiency.
SerpentDrago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm well aware . also yes , "typical" common pirated rips are shit .
I don't download from "typical" places though lol .
And modern video cards and the latest Intel and amd cpus and latest mobile SOC's can hardware decode hevc .
But IMHO streaming is just not close yet . The quality and espeicallyt he sound quality that comes from a PHYSICAL blueray is better then netflix's supposed 4k streaming .
meneldal2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:39:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They can hardware decode, but they have limitations (like bitrate and resolution), that software implementations usually don't.
The sound on most blurays is lossless, so obviously it's going to be better than most streaming options.
robbzilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually have a Blue Ray drive in my desktop for burning backups of my photos. 100GB discs are nice
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm disappointed by the supbar encoding on many BluRays, but they are still superior to any streaming option (or even illegal option that isn't the full ISO), though it may change once 4k streaming becomes mainstream. From my own experience BluRay > Netflix > Amazon Prime > ..... > Youtube
robbzilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny... I'm not. Probably because I'm older and grew up with tube TVs and 400 line resolution. I can appreciate a high end sci fi or fantasy movie at really high res, but most other movies are just fine at lower res for me.
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get your point, most stuff I'm not going to mind so much because it's not like the image was great in the first place anyway.
01110001010 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:15:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those were the floppy discs that actually were "floppy," no? I remember seeing a few of those when I was a wee lad. I'm 29.
fart_shaped_box ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
30, and I vaguely remember seeing those at the computer lab at my elementary school in my early years there. Outdated even at the time (circa 1993).
Coomb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, 5.25" and 8" discs were floppy.
01110001010 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoot, come to think of it, I think I remember seeing 8" floppies too. Dad was an engineer and had to use a lot of legacy software from the 70s and 80s (this was in the 90s).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
5.25โ and 8โ are โfloppyโ floppies.
The 1.2 MB 5.25โ was king when I was first into computers. I still have my SQ IV (greatest game) and KQ V sets.
climbtree ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:26:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
8" Floppies weren't ever common in the home though. Like, I doubt they would have ever seen a Zip Disk either
vxicepickxv ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:35:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My computer science teacher had some 8" for show back in the early 90s, and we had 3.5" in high school. I cut my teeth on 5.25" on an Apple 2c as a child.
Anon_suzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
31 here. In the mid 90s, I was playing Ladder and Catchum (Packman wannabe) on our Kaypro 2.
beard_meat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:39:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
35, and I do remember using them in elementary school. You had to lower a small lever on the drive to secure the disk. I never got why 3.5" were called "floppy" because they are rigid and stiff.
I bought an unopened box of 5.25" floppies at a thrift store years ago just to own a piece of mint condition history.
robbzilla ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:43:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because the platter inside was still floppy vs a hard drive which is metal.
tylenol1234 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:43:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember a project in 5th grade where we were required to bring our work to school on floppy disks, but my family had just gotten a brand new PC that didn't have a floppy drive. I think we ended up spending $60 on like a 4 GB thumb drive.
gprime311 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:57:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first USB stick was
256512MB and it was around that price.Edit: It was actually a half gig.
ThreeTo3d ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:08:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to beg my mom for one when I was in high school because it would make carrying files around so much easier. I got one for my birthday and was stoked. Was a 32GB. Was pretty pricey back in the mid-aughts.
Now they give them away for free. Unreal.
Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is going to be our 'back in my day' moment that millenials and gen Z will be telling the next generation about.
beard_meat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a job at Walmart in the electronics department in early 2001. Digital cameras were just starting to become affordable at this point, and they all used either CompactFlash or SmartMedia cards. We sold two sizes, 32MB were $50 and 64MB were $100. Literally thousands of times more expensive than what you can buy today.
LaLaLaLeea ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:15:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first MP3 player was 128 MB and I think it was like $90. It held 33 songs.
fart_shaped_box ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet still was awesome being that it was over a hundred times the storage of a 3.5" floppy and much less prone to corruption.
vesperholly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember paying $125 for a 1GB Compact Flash card in 2003. A GIGABYTE! Massive!
USB sticks would have been amazing in college (98-02). We had ZIP disks (or remember JAZ disks that were larger capacity?). Obnoxious because they were never prevalent enough to be anything but external drives.
craigmontHunter ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:19:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember in high school all the computers had floppy disks, but my dad gave me a 64mb usb key - it was awesome, but windows 98 didn't have a driver, so I first found a universal usb mass storage driver, kept that on a floppy disk and I would install it whenever I wanted to use the USB key. I got in shit every time I went to plug it in because the librarian couldn't understand what I needed at the back of the computer.
rndthrowing ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:08:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, librarians and not knowing technology. Anything you did was "bad" and basically hacking the system.
quentin500000000 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:37:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm 22 but I donโt remember actual floppies but I remember the small hard floppies when I was real young.
robbzilla ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 19:28:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Floppies are why Windows drives start with C:
The A: and B: drives were reserved for floppies.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:49:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But why? I would think the permanent disk would get labeled first
climbtree ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 21:11:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harddrives used to be rarities. Computers first came with no storage at all, the first drives were floppy drives.
I never used cassettes though, I don't know how they were addressed.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:42:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then where is the OS stored? Or was there no OS at all, it would only run whatever floppy was in? The first computer I had ran on DOS, so Iโm not familiar with earlier setups
GSlayerBrian ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:50:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You loaded the Operating System from a floppy.
My first computer, you'd insert the DOS disk while the system was off, press the power button, and the computer would load the operating system from the floppy.
Then, if I planned on using an application that used the mouse, I'd have to load the mouse driver from a floppy, too. So I'd insert that, type
A:\mouse, and that'd load the mouse driver into the Operating System.Then I'd finally have to insert the floppy for the application I wanted to run (usually Carmen Sandiego or Wolfenstein 3D) and launch that the same way.
It was a rush.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:52:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But without a hard drive, where are you loading the mouse driver, etc to? Was it all stored in RAM?
mrcaptncrunch ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:58:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Where it still is.
A CPU canโt
readuse data from a hard disk. It needs to be loaded to RAM.[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:00:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But an OS is installed on the hard drive now?
mrcaptncrunch ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:04:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yewp.
The BIOS/UEFI are in charge of launching the OS. Thereโs a boot loader in a specific location that gets read. That in turn loads the OS and then that executes the boot of the OS and it loads.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok cool. I learned a thing today
mrcaptncrunch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:23:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Swapping is the other thing.
Memory is dealt with in pages. So if you need more data than the available RAM, itโs a little more intricate, but the oldest page of memory gets sent to disk. Then new data is loaded.
Thereโs a threshold and data pages that havenโt been accessed after X time or after Y limit is reached, get dumped.
When you need data that was pages out, a page from RAM is sent to disk and the old page from disk is loaded to RAM where it can be accessed.
That operation is why you ideally donโt want a system to swap and want more RAM.
EvilStevilTheKenevil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The CPU can't use data from ram either. It has to be loaded into the registers first.
meneldal2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but at least it can directly address the RAM and doesn't need to go through a drive controller to get its data. And you have random access.
wildgift ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There wasn't a mouse. There were some hardware devices supported by the BIOS. I think they were they keyboard, floppy disk, hard disk, video card, serial ports, printer port. So the BIOS would bring up enough of the computer to start the boot process, and could load from the MBR on the floppy, or hand off to a card (which could then boot from the hard disk).
I should also add that, early on, many hard disks had specialized controller cards. So even the BIOS support for hard disks was bypassed. Later, IDE drives became popular, and the BIOS booted those directly, like we do today.
MikeFichera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rip ide.(jumpers anyone?!) and probably sata in 2-3 years. dae remember agp or regular pci slots.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the stuff I watched my dad do in the early 90s to get my frog maze game running and it was so mystical to me at that age
climbtree ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On those without any storage the OS was in ROM chips and you would write the program you wanted to run every time you wanted to run it.
Later you would boot an OS from the floppy disk and go from there. It was more common at this time to have two floppy drives and no harddrive.
If you ever deleted DOS or installed a blank harddrive to your computer you would have seen some sort of prompt to boot from a floppy disk.
deathschemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you'd load the OS from floppy, and it'd remain in volatile memory until it wasn't needed anymore
wildgift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cassettes predated the IBM PC. The main systems that used cassettes were Atari 400 and 800, Commodore Pet, Vic 20 and 64, Apple I and II, TI 994/A, Sinclair ZX81, TRS-80 and Color Computer.
climbtree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
?
I know of them... I've just never used them, and I don't know how they were used. As far as I know you set up a terminal to listen and played it through, so you wouldn't address it in a DOS anyway.
robbzilla ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:18:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because the "permanent disk" as you call it, didn't show up in DOS computers until long after the floppy disk. Hard drives were extremely expensive add ons. The first hard drive for PCs was introduced in 1980. In 1979, the first 1GB hard drive was introduced by IBM. It cost $40K and was the size of a refrigerator. In 1980, the first PC hard drive was introduced, and cost $1400 and was 5MB. In 1983, IBM introduced the PET, the first personal computer that came standard with a hard drive. It was $5000 (in 1983 money, which would be about $12,000 today!) and came with a whopping 128K of RAM and a 10MB hard drive!
Allso, DOS, the precursor to windows, was programmed using sensibilities of people who were looking at one of the major computer OSes that preceded it... CP/M.
One more weird tidbit: The first 40MB drives exposed a weird quirk of DOS... 32MB was the maximum partition size. If you had a 40MB drive, you had the choice of either splitting it or losing 8MB. I had an 80MB drive on my Atari ST, and had to split it into 3 drives. I had a 32MB C: a 32MB D: and a 16MB E: drive.
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be more specific the issue comes from FAT, a very simple partition type that was very limited. FAT32 ended up solving most issues, with the main annoyance that started showing up was the 4GB file size limit.
hbk1966 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:12:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because early PC's didn't really have permanent disk drives because they were incredibly expensive. You would insert a floppy with the software you wanted to run. For example the Commodore 64 didn't get a hard disk drive till about 2 years after it launched.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not if they didnโt exist, lol.
Photog77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would guess that it has to do with defaults in your computer's bios selecting which drive to boot from. When the defaults got set computers still had floppy drives and there was a good chance people were still booting from floppies.
I've also encountered software that wouldn't let you install it anywhere not on the c:. Then the industry got to big to make a non-critical change.
I still find it a pain when I want to safe files not on the c:. I like to keep my photos/documnets on a drive not with my OS, apparently that's weird.
fart_shaped_box ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:17:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
30, and I remember A drives but not B drives. I always wondered why the drives go A, C, D and skipped B. Was the B drive another 3.5" floppy drive or was it used for those 5.25" disks I barely remember?
HyperspaceCatnip ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:29:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could plug either type into either floppy port, I had a 286 where A: was 5.25" and B: was 3.5" (as I didn't get that drive until later, so being able to access 3.5" was an amazing novelty). It also had a 20MB MFM hard disk at C:, and later another 20MB hard disk at D: recovered from another machine. At one point I also had a two-slot Bernoulli Box that took 8" cartridges with 20MB capacity, plugged into the parallel port.
fart_shaped_box ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just seems like there was so much more customization that could be done from reading that.
Pretty much any computer I used growing up followed the convention that A: = (3.5") floppy drive, C: = hard drive, D: = CD-ROM drive.
UnattributableEschar ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:07:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was because "c" is the first letter in computer
ujbhnjjooilk ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 20:18:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, your train of thought is interesting, that's for sure.
rollthediceplz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:40:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
TruIsou ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:24:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, had no idea young people didn't know that.
robbzilla ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:33:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's really no reason they would. They've never used an A: drive in their lives. It's second nature to us err.... seasoned computer users... yeah! Seasoned!
mrcaptncrunch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:57:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like that and will keep it in mind.
Cobbleking32486 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:39:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except the few of us that have ventured into Dosbox once or twice.
robbzilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prodigy
King_Of_Regret ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im 23, been working with computers with my dad since i was 4, and i didnt know that. Thats a great piece of history.
Galyndean ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:59:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I started very young with 5 1/4" floppies. We got a 3 1/2" drive around the time I started hearing about hard disks (what we now just call hard drives).
It took a while for me to figure out that 3 1/2" weren't hard disks, even though they started printing 'HD' on them at some point.
Edit: Yes, I know the HD on floppies stands for High Density and I understand the difference between standard density and high density. It was simply irrelevant to my comment so I didn't tack it on.
EatsOnlySpaghetti ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:12:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My buddy found a 5 1/4" drive and hooked it up.
The most shocking part of it was Windows 7 has a fucking 5 1/4" icon and driver.
VindictiveJudge ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:18:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People have panic attacks if anything is removed from Windows, so that doesn't surprise me at all.
MyUshanka ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:39:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over the summer, I had a tech support internship at a local company working on their computers. One of the laptops still had a My Briefcase link on the desktop. It was Windows 10, so the feature was removed and it acted as a regular folder. Still neat to see.
Wiiplay123 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:51:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet nobody had a panic attack when the sampler was removed from the Windows installation disks.
Or when the tour with cool music was removed. :(
And the installation music, the step-by-step tutorial, 3D Pinball, support for 16-bit applications, etc...
climbtree ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think Program Manager was still in Windows until Vista.
Wiiplay123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Program Manager?
climbtree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The default Shell from Windows 3.
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The cool music is arguable, it gets annoying after a bit if you reinstall many computers.
Photog77 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:20:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The 'HD' on the floppies stands for High Density, they store 1.2mb instead of only 512k.
Galyndean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew if I didn't note that in my comment (even though it's pointless to the story) that someone would come along and mention it.
Thanks for not letting me down, Reddit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HD stands for โHigh Densityโ
On a 3 1/2 disc that means itโs 1.44 MB vs 720 KB (standard density).
For 5.25โ floppies the difference between high density and standard density is 1.2 MB vs 360 KB I believe.
Now you know the rest of the story.
johnvvick ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:12:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3.5โ floppy? Or the 5โ floppy thatโs actually floppy?
Fazzeh ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:17:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
are they not all floppy on the inside
monkeyhog ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:48:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're all floppy on the inside
Bitfluxgaming ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:07:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We would all flop without our internal spooky boys
CosmoZombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself.
Photog77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both of those types of disk are floppy. You are confusing the case that the disk comes in with the disk itself.
PseudonymIncognito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
5.25" thank you very much.
johnvvick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the clarification. 5.25โ floppy that isnโt hard vs 3.5โ floppy that is hard and rigid... does size really matter?
PseudonymIncognito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait until some greybeard whips out a floppy old 8-incher right in front of you.
Ultie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:55:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend and I have been rewatching the old Futurama episodes. While the writing is still hilarious, I find myself laughing more at the outdated tech of the year 3000. Super chunky monitors, robots backed up on floppies, ect.
At first I was extremely confused - I watched Futurama in college and I'm not THAT old (27) - but then it hit me. Damn show started in 1999. Zip drives weren't even a thing - big ol' external hard drives were SUPER expensive and had barely any storage by today's standards. Hell, the first digital camera were just hitting the market and were only 1 mega pixel. When my mom bought one, she was specifically told by the camera dealer that digital cameras would not catch on. Now you can't find anyone to develop film.
Jamie_Suzanne ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:00:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 35 and got into tech early (though not nearly as early as children do now). Got our first family computer when I was 8, and it was the top of the line model because it included a whopping 1.44MB 3.5" diskette drive. Before that I had been using Apple IIs with 5.25" diskettes. Never worked actively with the 8" version, although we did have a Commodore and a TI-4/99 that stored their programs on cassette.
I still carry both an external and an internal 3.5" floppy, although most of my diagnostic utilities are WinPE images I have to burn to CD or thumb drive. But sometimes you run across an old systems controller and the only diags that will run on it are on floppy.
Dlj529 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:49:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 19 and I've never seen a floppy. (I don't think)
kirkom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:24:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 21, my brother is 19, and it's like we grew up in totally different worlds. I remember using Netscape Navigator, AskJeeves, and floppy disks - all totally foreign to him.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 22 and I remember having to use floppy disks to put documents and pictures on.. That's really odd lol
herbal-haze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Serious question, but did you grow up in a smaller town? I think that for a while it took smaller/remote towns to "catch up". In 2009 I drove to Anchorage, Alaska and the people I met there were amazed at my Tom Tom GPS.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Trinidadian, so you could say that LOL
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trinidad is in the Caribbean tho =p
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All good haha
efkey189 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 23 and I remember using 3,5" floppy through elementary school grades 1-5. We stored some poems and pictures in there to watch at home. We even had to bring and donate 3 pieces to school every year for our school projects of sorts. That was fun. I guess we were far behind after 1989(Slovakia, Eastern Europe).
otis_the_drunk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:12:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently built a PC for the first time and intentionally installed a 3.5 floppy drive to confuse people.
McDog3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:53:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really just goes to show how rapidly technology evolves. Those three years can make all the difference between tech being commonplace and obsoleted.
KptKrondog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:08:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to turn in homework assignments on floppy disks for a programming class in 2010-2011. The teacher was a bit behind the times.
fart_shaped_box ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. What language did you have to program in, Fortran?
KptKrondog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nah, was an intro Java class.
She let us use flash drives the next semester for the next class. All my other classes used a website to upload our projects to, but for some reason that one teacher wanted the 3 1/2in floppies.
fart_shaped_box ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know there was a famous programmer (I want to say it was Dijkstra?) that said programming should not be taught on computers. Maybe your professor was a less strict relative of his?
EvilStevilTheKenevil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, you can actually fit a Java program on one of those things? /s.
FiliaDei ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:00:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 22 and I remember playing the original Oregon Trail on a floppy with our giant clunker computer (which, at the time, was quite modern). I was already far more used to CDs, though.
Pennwisedom ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:39:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm...older, but in Elementary school we played Oregon trail on a floppy with our Apple IIes.
Cobbleking32486 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oregon trail is universal no matter your age. By the time I was in elementary school, Windows 7 was hitting the market, and we still played it using Dosbox.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:40:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 23, and I remember both the mini floppies and the big floppies. We had some old video games that were on the big ones, and my middle school sold the 3.5" floppies in the library for like 25ยข each through at least 2008.
einTier ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in my twenties when the transition happened. It happened very fast.
The original G3 iMac in 1998 was the first factory PC I'd ever seen that didn't have a floppy drive. I couldn't imagine how that would work. There was too much software that required a floppy drive at least for the initial install, particularly operating systems.
But they had already been largely obsolete for a long time, we just didn't have a better solution. The largest ones could only hold a megabyte and a half and files were routinely exceeding that size, making them difficult to move off one system and onto another. Zip drives and Superdisk and a few others proliferated around this time, but it was CD-Rs and usb keys that eventually sounded the death knell for the old floppy.
I purchased my first home in 2001 and built a custom PC shortly after. I remember putting in the floppy drives and wondering if I was ever going to use them. I never did, other than reading old floppies I had stored. The PC that came after it in 2004 didn't have one at all and I didn't miss it. From the time of "they're everywhere and you have to have them" to "no one is putting them in PCs now" was no more than five or six years. The time between "I use them at least a few times a week" to "I can't remember the last time I used one" was even shorter, maybe three years. In comparison, the ditching of optical media seems very slow.
EvilStevilTheKenevil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because unlike floppies, most of our files still don't need multiple disks, and they're harder to pirate than bits in RAM.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 18. I've never used one, but I saw them about when I was younger.
yeahifuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 22 and we used them through elementary school. My sister, 18, never had to use one
nrdgrl13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah Iโm 20 too, and I vaguely remember using floppies when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade.
VindictiveJudge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 26 and don't think I ever used a floppy myself as anything other than a coaster. The 3.5" floppies make great coasters, btw. I still have a bunch of CDs, but I'm in the process of backing them up to my hard drive. I think most of my old games are free now, though.
IronChariots ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:47:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised at 26 you never used a floppy. I'm 28 and definitely used them as a child.
VindictiveJudge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All the computers at school were set up so that students didn't need to know how to use a floppy (either the systems were prepped before class or the programs were done as a full install so the disk wasn't necessary, I'm not sure) and my dad was an early adopter of CDs.
Elubious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 21 and when I was a child we had some around and used them once in a while. I also remember my parents referring to DVDs as a fad on our way to Blockbuster to get VHS tapes. Oh how times change.
Godzilla2y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our first home computer had Windows 96. My dad had a coworker with a computer hobby that lived nearby, and he cobbled some of his extra parts together for a machine for us.
Windows 96 was installed with stacks of floppy disks.
supernonsense ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:56:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bad news, Windows 96 doesn't exist
Godzilla2y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, you're right. It would have been 95 or 98. It was a long time ago, I can't remember that well. I remember the seemingly endless floppies, though!
supernonsense ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably 95 then? I remember 98 coming on a CD (SE did at least, don't know about vanilla 98).
HyperspaceCatnip ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:38:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows 95 did have a floppy version (13 disks I think), but it was also available on CD, it included the music video for Buddy Holly by Weezer (presumably to demo 'multimedia').
Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows fucking XP even had a floppy edition.
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recall it had a floppy-based boot/recovery, but I haven't seen a full installation from floppies. And I feel your pain if you need to put over 200 floppies in order.
hbk1966 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably Windows ME
fart_shaped_box ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, Windows RG.
Popopopper123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm younger than that, and I've seen plenty of floppy disks.
I haven't used any though, since all the floppy disks I've seen are old ones that my parents never threw out.
I even have a USB floppy drive so I could still use them if I wanted to.
xombae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 26 and not only used floppy disks for games (back when putting a game on your computer took 17 floppy disks and three hours) and saving files, but I also used a DOS computer for many years. It's crazy to me that some kids that are fully drinking age may have no idea what a floppy disk is.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Cobbleking32486 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 14 and my first computer had a floppy drive. No one really used them by then, but I knew what one was.
SuspiciouslyElven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think i've personally seen a floppy floppy. Just the 3.5 inch
Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found one in my attic once. Not as floppy as you'd expect.
h2man ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:21:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm 37 and still get excited when I run across a 5 1/4 inch floppy in the companyโs safe.
It must be interesting to talk with someone that hasnโt experienced the world pre-9/11.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a year older than you and I remember my grade school's computers using the 5 1/4 inch floppies (which, iirc, were literally floppy--as in, it was possible to bend them. I mean, you probably shouldn't, but it was possible).
blackcarpet2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take questions! (jk Iโm not interesting)
Pepper-Fox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was decommissioning and old portable nuclear camera the other day and found a stack of 8" ones! I kept those fuckers.
CorruptMilkshake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find this pre and post 9/11 thing rather odd. I get that it was a horrible thing and must have been awful for anyone involved but did it really have that big of an effect on the average person?
h2man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm not American and did not know anyone that died on that day and felt the overall impact.
Up until that point the western world was fairly peaceful and free. There were terrorist attempts, but always in some remote places. Flying was nicer... granted, there werenโt that many low cost airlines bringing a race to bottom, but it wasnโt the nightmare it is now with security.
After that, a war came on. Which is never nice... particularly when it turned out that it never solved the problem.
The โsecurityโ tightened, and a lot of it feels like a power grab nowadays.
The war turned out to be a personal vendetta from the Bush clan and the result has been morphing into the shit show we have today in the Middle East and radicalization and islamization of western societies.
So there is a difference between pre and post 9/11. It may not affect everyone, but it certainly made a big difference.
Pendaelose ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:14:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A few years back I showed my 6 year old a VHS tape and asked her if she knew what it was. She examined it, pondered for a while, and finally answered "an old fashioned DVD?"
Gristlybits ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:35:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another fun question to ask there is how many of you have actually heard dial tone.
black_stapler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The 3.5s werenโt even all that floppy. Remember the 5.25s? Now those were floppy!
nofear1324 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you could say the term was being used even though it lost its core relevance. TIL in South Africa they called the 3.5 stiffy.
G8kpr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, now I feel old.
I remember working at my high school store in 1992/3 and 3.5โ floppies were the thing to use for many classes, desktop pub. Computer science, accounting, and word processing etc. so we sold a lot of them. Had a girl come down and say she wanted to buy โa hard diskโ (which at the time was another term for hard drive)
I said โI think you mean floppiesโ.
She said annoyed โno, a hard disk. Not a floppy one, a hard oneโ
I said โok, okโ got some floppies from the shelf and she said โyeah, see, hard diskโ
I slid open the window and said โyeah, the plastic is hard, but thatโs just holding this flopping disk inside see?
I think I blew her mind.
Donutsareagirlsbff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow. This made me realise children born straight after 9/11 in 2001 would be 16 now. I can't believe it's been 16 years since it happened...
Go_Habs_Go31 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's still very surreal to me. 9/11 was a such a landmark "where were you when it happened?" moment and I'm not even American. Canada pretty much shut down that day as well.
pjabrony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve seen 3.5s and 5.25s, but I never used 8s.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I've used both but have never even seen an 8".
CptSweetCheeksjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was helping my dad clean out his attic so I could store some of my shit there.
Found a few cases of floppy disks. It's crazy, I remember having them laying around his office growing up, now they're a relic.
obliviousObservation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read this as โteen suicide programโ
plopaplop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And they will say, "they are blue with a metal bit"
OpinionatedLulz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same feeling our parents had about 'Nam and their parents had about WW2 and their parents had about WW1 and when will we stop killing eachother?
ConnerDavis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm in a freshman-level CS Class this semester, and a couple weeks ago my professor asked the whole class who was born after โ84. Then last week he said that he was pretty sure that most of us were born after โ89. I was born in โ96 and Iโm one of the oldest people in the class.
compwiz1202 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hehe and which floppies? I don't think I ever saw the huge floppies in person. Saw the 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 but heard there was even a bigger one.
Tragic_fall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still find floppy disks when I clean out desks in my office. Actually, we just did a round of computer replacements earlier this year, and the computers they took out (good, powerful CAD machines from a few years ago) still had floppy drives.
So floppy disks are still around here and there. That said, I nor anybody I know has actually USED one in quite a few years.
CommitteeOfOne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my 11-year old daughter what object was pictured in the save icon, and she had no idea what it was.
Alis451 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
most hilarious part is the "Floppy" from floppy disk is in reference to the black circle INSIDE the rectangle.
Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At thanksgiving we handed my cousins 18mo old a disney vhs in a case, he opened it exclaiming "book!" and after discarding the cassette he was really frustrated there werent any pages.
Kids probably never even seen a DVD.
Av3ngedAngel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol theres like 3-4 unopened packets of them at my work... They actually still are used (not by us) but I've read an article in the past about it
Thebatmann58 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alot of the people I manage either were not born yet or weren't old enough to remember.
I was I high school. Makes me feel old every time I think about it.
liv_free_or_die ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I teach high school and my car is older than most of them.
My cat is definitely older than all of them, as well.
MakeItSick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn Iโm 21 and I still remember playing civ off like 5 floppies lol
DrHugh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back when there was a Computers merit badge, I used to bring in a 3.5" floppy, a 5.25" floppy, and an 8" floppy. Most of the boys thought an eight inch floppy disk was a novelty item.
moderate-painting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least calculus stays the same!
ImAThiefHelp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, I don't even know what they look like. Are they actually floppy?
MayoFetish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last time I used a floppy was around 9/11. Coincidence?
SLUnatic85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
even those few... did they see an actual "floppy" disk, or was it the 3 1/2" that hung around a bit longer that IMO doesn't do any flopping. I the term was already a misnomer at that point, and those came out in the early 80s.
Yupstillhateme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck kind of freshman is taking calculus.
daredaki-sama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think a real floppy is B drive. I feel like those kids have likely only seen A drive.
Reddragon2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going through a rarely used cupboard at work some months ago cleaning it out and found a set of floppy disks with Windows 97 on it. Took it into the restaurant where teens are and they asked what it was.
csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The AskReddit question of "people who are old enough to remember 9/11..." was a bit mindblowing.
izzy_garcia-shapiro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I teach fifth grade and Iโve never seen a real floppy disc.
sovamind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you are approaching your limit.
crimeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it doesn't count unless it's a 5 or morr inch one where the casing is floppy too, not just the actual disc
TOMdMAK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not even 2 months old and the baby can talk, and know Calculus!
AgnosticTemplar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok, most people our age are likely to have never seen a phonograph cylinder. Not those newfangled disks which became popular with the kids, but the old-school tubes!
jessicattiva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my high school intern if he knew what the save icon was, and he said "yeah, a cd rom!"
Jaybeux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when floppy disks were 5 inches.
reanimate_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask them if they think Harambe was an inside job because jet fuel can't melt steel gorillas.
swizzler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or seen their parents become preppers for a year because of all the Y2K bug fear-churning.
dmanww ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but was it a floppy floppy (8" or 5.25") or one of those hard ones (3.5")
lawrnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So 3.5 or 5.25โ?
NotThatSerious26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโll never forget how stupid I felt when I was in high school (age 15, 2008) and I saved a paper I typed on a floppy disk and I went to put it in the computer and it had some type of formatting error. I asked someone for help and they were like... why are you using a floppy disk? I didnโt even know flash drives existed tbh.
Mindraker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A 5ยผ? ;)
KlingonAdmiral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
9/11 is now closer to the Challenger disaster then to the current day
In 2020 or the Columbia disaster will mark the midpoint between that day and the Challenger disaster
And yet, the Ottoman Empire still existed for more than half the US' current lifetime
redpandaeater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In grad school we still had some 8" floppies lying around, which I doubt many people have seen.
robitj11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was cleaning out old files for my training center and ran across an old floppy disk that read "ACLS Exams 1994." I was so struck by nostalgia that I hung that thing up in my office.
tiptoe_only ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a load of floppies lying around somewhere with stupid teenage bullshit saved on them. If I ever come across hardware I can use them with, that will be a treat.
zap_p25 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:16:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Define a real floppy? 3.5" or 5.25"?
FierceDeity_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:51:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get the "born after 9/11" thing. For me it just doesn't give a shock. I was 10 at 9/11 btw
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
moesif ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:56:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool.
A_Tame_Sketch ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:50:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk where you're from but any teacher asking a bunch of under age girls if they've seen a 3.5 floppy is grounds for being fired/put in jail.
-zimms- ยท 27972 points ยท Posted at 16:02:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like Jesus, the floppy disk died to become our icon of saving.
phthalochar ยท 4100 points ยท Posted at 16:16:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs... poignant...
Poem_for_your_sprog ยท 6656 points ยท Posted at 17:18:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember his symbol,
and never forget -
With daring and courage,
and tears of regret -
He met with his moment,
and rose to the risk -
He perished to save us.
Adieu, floppy disk.
RefrigeratorHaikuGuy ยท 3891 points ยท Posted at 17:25:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poem_for_your_sprog,
Your poems are way too long.
Refrigerator
Poem_for_your_sprog ยท 4735 points ยท Posted at 19:06:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crawling by, it creeps
with salty droplets falling.
One trick pony weeps.
RefrigeratorHaikuGuy ยท 3850 points ยท Posted at 19:08:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's much better, Sprog!
Still could use a sprinkle of
Refrigerator
Poem_for_your_sprog ยท 4118 points ยท Posted at 19:10:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love this response.
Reddit's big enough for two...
Refrigerators.
;)
RefrigeratorHaikuGuy ยท 2877 points ยท Posted at 19:13:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm such a big fan
Near me you'd feel you're in a
Refrigerator
wellatgrammar ยท 880 points ยท Posted at 19:41:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is this, a crossover episode?
corpsestomp ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:16:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs like Shitty Watercolor va A Wild Sketch Appears all over again!
dabauss514 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:44:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticing it has very well grammar.
wellatgrammar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:20:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EyeI likeyou'reyour style.strikt9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than a bottle episode
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. And it is glorious.
And I missed it.
Stjernepus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:52 on December 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one
StrangePineapple ยท 1532 points ยท Posted at 19:20:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY!
UninvitedGhost ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 19:45:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EPPA RAB BAGGLES OFHISTORAYYY!
thegreenrobby ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 19:56:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SBROG!
VARSAS...
FRIBERATERHAIKUGUY!
johnvak01 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:06:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BEGIN!
VerySecretCactus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:15:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHO WON?
VerySecretCactus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:15:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHO'S NEXT?
VerySecretCactus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:15:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOU DECIDE!
VaderFan2187 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORAYYYYY
Shanshan16 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:23:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sick, and having a coughing for because I laughed too hard.
stro-pari24 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:19:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just had to say that this is a perfect written version of the guys voice and actually made me laugh out loud.
wafflepotamus ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 19:28:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHO WON?
WHO'S NEXT?
YOU DECIDE!
StamatopoulosMichael ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 20:28:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
MaFratelli ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:53:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who is it that won?
Who is going to be next?
Refrigerator!
FTFY
Monk_Adrian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:51:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fridge won. Would like him to rap against haikuhitler next.
ScienceQ_A ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:37:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I woke up this morning I didn't realize it would be THIS kind of day!!!!
TheGhizzi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:53:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean an AWESOME day of Refrigerators?
pokelord13 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Part of Reddit history once again. See you guys on /r/bestof
renagadefish ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:16:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just here for that sweet karma
JG1991 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All 4 of it :P
sleeping_buddha ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:49:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit history being made right in front of our eyes. Beautiful.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:36:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RuhfruhguhruhtorHaikuGuy...
VURSHUSH!
MMMMMMMMPOEMFURURSPROOOOOOOG-
BEGIN!
TheyCallMeVinny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHO WON? YOU DECIDE!
fadedadrian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a rapper though...
Merry_Birthday ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
5/12/17
Putting a comment here so I can finally be a part of reddit history
EoTN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was beautiful, one of my earliest sprogs, and what a doozie!
FunkMasterE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something something Mom's Spaghetti
real_nice_guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TOP 5
shart_attacked ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHO WON??? YOU DECIDE!!!
omaca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Epic crap battles of history...
nsgiad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:49 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
read this in the voice.
ThereIsSoMuchMore ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and you fucking ruined it. they stopped because of you.
rothael ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:04:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are not epic nor raps nor historical.
Aytoozee ยท 219 points ยท Posted at 19:25:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fuck is happening
Battlingdragon ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:43:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit magic my friend. Remember this, and tell your children of the time you witnessed history being made.
the_federation ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:33:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like putting Descartes before the whores again
Tuga_Lissabon ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:12:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sprog is an artist with words, and refrigerator - whom I didn't know - is planting his flag next to the master's stall. The two artists are now crossing (s)words in a friendly tit-for-tat.
Pretty cool.
Obscu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The future
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Refrigerator.
iWest625 ยท 522 points ยท Posted at 19:22:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I just witnessed Reddit history.
frodohaskids ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:24:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck. I always see these like 8 hours later. I fuckin love you, Reddit.
1Dive1Breath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:37:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fresh refrigerator!
Jakewakeshake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i wus here
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nine hours later for me.
ghost650 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me rn
coredumperror ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:13:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs like a wordy version of the AWildSketchAppeared / Shitty_Watercolour battle from a few years ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1gzpx9/how_to_introduce_your_sister/capg4gg/
soma16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw it guys, I swear! I saw the unicorn!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the archive.
Marsstriker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:06 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks c:
choochosaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WE'RE A PART OF IT
DrFaustPhD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I just witnesses 2 user profiles make love
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You did. We all did.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You did. We all did.
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We are all blessed this day
Npriley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi future people!
JupiterBrownbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ฑ๐๐
QCA_Tommy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This whole thread is wonderful
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 19:40:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
now kiss
the21stfactor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:04:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TurquoiseFinch ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 19:55:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To the people coming here from the inevitably r/bestof thread this will generate: ๐๐๐ zoop
PocoCarbs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:56:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐
spontaniousthingy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:22:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐ zoop
ohohButternut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pew pew!
Actually found it on /r/defaultgems
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's on there twice.
ohohButternut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pew pew!
PM_CUPS_OF_TEA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:09 on December 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi
puheenix ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:57:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come quick! Morpheus is fighting Neo!
NespreSilver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:29 on January 8, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Pardon the zombie reply, but yours is the most underrated response to this thread.
Encrowpy ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 19:19:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love this, and how it resolved.
crawlerz2468 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 19:49:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am glad I didn't suicide earlier this year so I could witness this.
Bit-Tilly ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:29:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poem_for_your_sprog always brightens my day. Glad you're still with us crawlerz2468. :)
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:17:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, friend.
VerySecretCactus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:14:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The trick is to think this every day.
crawlerz2468 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude being disabled it's getting harder and harder.
VerySecretCactus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:36:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cannot relate, but good luck with your life, friend.
jean_nizzle ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 19:29:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was here!! I saw this happen in real time! This is the highlight of my life!!!
soylent_absinthe ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:55:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[โ๏ธ] The wall coming down
[โ๏ธ] 9/11
[โ๏ธ] This thread
My life is fulfilled. I've seen all the milestones of my lifetime.
yoyoq12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:48:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
almost a haiku. you could have been a contender.
balne ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:48:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
me too!
VerySecretCactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
me too thanks
PM-ME-SQUID ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't milk the legends
jean_nizzle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:50:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโll milk them! Iโll cradle the balls, stroke the shaft, work the pipe, swallow the gravy! Get it over here, buddies. Letโs do this!
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ
DeadMechanic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Posting in epic thread.
Grimsqueaker69 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:45:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Refrigerators
Are a weird choice for Haikus
Why just the last word?
sinnysinsins ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:39:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here to say i witnessed the great 2017 reddit poem-off
ItsSansom ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:57:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was here when worlds
Collided and became one
Refrigerator
Alex1331xela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... you're not u/RefrigeratorHaikuGuy !
LAMBKING ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:58:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This thread was EPIC! I always love finding u/Poem_for_your_sprog in the comments, and now I have the newcomer, u/RefrigeratorHaikuGuy to look for as well! Glorious times to be had!
noveltymoocher ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:30:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Squish, squash, sling that slang I'm always right back at ya like my......BOOMERANG!
jepperten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
upvote for atla reference
StoptheDreamer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:55:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I ship it.
Le_Oken ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:23:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my time to brag to my friends that I was here when history was made.
CookieBossTV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leaving my mark now as a testament of being here when it happened
what_a_shitty_haiku ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:09:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Player three enters
Even if I'm not cool enough
I'll give it a go
noveltymoocher ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:31:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I witness you
hope4ataraxy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...Refrigerator
puffthemagicaldragon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:20:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made it in time
History in the making
Refrigerator
-Theseus- ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:25:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This time on reddit...
We became one, with the true
Refrigerator.
cowboydirtydan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:42:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because you're cozy?
Or super super icy like a
Refrigerator
weeksAskew ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:49:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, can I join in? Or do I have to reply using a haiku?
otis_the_drunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Subtle. Nice.
theThinkingThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It should be haiku. Did you write that on purpose? Syllables check out.
HargrimZA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:32:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To the reddit or of the future
Who came to witness this moment
Hi, how are you?
MicrowaveOvenHaiku ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll turn up the heat,
You'd better believe I will.
Microwave Oven.
zompa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:33:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I finally saw it in time
PSPHAXXOR ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:41:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
D-did I just witness something?
brockhopper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is almost as good as the 'gimmick accounts assemble' thread!
AirRaidJade ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:04:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just here to be in the thread kthxbai
jeebus224 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/bestof
Zanzabushino ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AMAZING. TRULY AND MOST ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
Kluuvdar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worldstar!
epicDcraft ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
History
SrslyGudMango ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, i just witnessed reddit history
tinkerpunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tinkerpunk wuz heer
wellmade-mango ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The hell just happened lol
sunsethacker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/bestof
HELLHOUNDGRIM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love both of you so damn much.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
๐ฉ๐ฉ๐๐๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฆ
Leif-Lennart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool.
FusRoeDah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Commenting to be part of Reddit history
Lastboss42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/awildsketchappeared and /u/shitty_watercolour are embarrassed now.
aurihasroyalblood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And on that day, we all gained a twinkling memory of The Meeting of Sprog and Fridge to settle into our hearts for the winter days of grey and sparing sun. During the clouds and the dimness and the dirty snow, as we pulled our coats tighter to our throats: we remembered.
Wyvern39 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's happening!
MissesYourJokes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:05:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, not every haiku needs to end in "refrigerator". The three lines just need to be 5, 7, and 5 syllables, respectively.
IameAuhSomme ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:58:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
confused
looks at username
no longer confused
calicotrinket ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:53:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look chaps, I was here
PineappleBoots ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:23:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing exchange guys!
Such ludic talent displayed
These elan farceurs
cowboydirtydan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Refrigerator
IameAuhSomme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I might like
Your haikus a bit more if
You diversified
stealthscrape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was here on this glorious day in history.
jojobonobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is seriously the Avengers of Reddit right here
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get someone else to post this to /r/bestof at once
Engineer9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One dry potato,
Not even bread, jam in the
Refrigerator
DownvotesWankers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
U should write a book!
Placenta_Polenta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real shit is always like 5 child comments in
JustGiraffable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I come here.
L_Andrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know that you don't
Have to sign your comments right?
Refrigerator?
Clarity03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:13 on December 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Top 10 anime crossovers
WarriorSushi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:36 on December 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was here.
stickmancee ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:24:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
History in the making
MorteDaSopra ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:53:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a stanza off.
BigBnana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And we were here! Squeee!
ThePowerOfBeard ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:23:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This may not be /u/shitty_watercolour vs. /u/awildsketchappeared levels, but I'm loving every bit of it.
SkyezOpen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:42:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you two gonna make out now?
FrostfirePhoenix ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:22:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.... Guys... The ship sails itself!
HereForTheGang_Bang ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:14:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel so oddly at peace after reading this exchange.
proffitz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:32:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm so glad this happened.
trashmailme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im glad i was here for this
JJRicks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was here
DavidToma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jimmy barnes screaming
Firecracker500 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
D'aww :']
P0sitive_Outlook ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the spirit, Sprog!! :D
smoov22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This fighting must be
Ended in a true fair way
It's snowing on Mt Fuji
9bikes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what about Timmy?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wig flew
DownvotesWankers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
U should write a book!
asharwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now kiss
NicePretender ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:10:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG I'm here to witness one.
Ladyingreypajamas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:13:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! Reddit history being made!
the_blind_gramber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hallelujah!
NiceGuyPreston ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:23:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
top 10 anime battles
spillin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:10:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh DANG!!
paulwhiskie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:15:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
got 'em
DownvotesWankers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
U should write a book!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:35:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck off useless novelty account fuckface.
QueenAlpaca ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:13:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never thought I'd ever say that I witnessed a poem-battle, especially one this savage.
DayVg ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:29:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How long has u/refrigeratorhaikuguy been in the bushes waiting for a fresh sprog? It's like witnessing a shooting star.
Tesseract14 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BEATING HIM AT HIS OWN GAME
PM_ME_YOUR_BIG_LOAD ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:28:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
R O A S T E D
O
A
S
T
E
D
FreedomWaterfall ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:29:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ man. That's cold.
hann-tastic ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:55:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shots fired
DrPibIsBack ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:33:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cold as ice.
kingsandkeys ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:54:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FIGHT FIGT FIGHT FIGHT
GaySwans ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:57:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/murderedbywords
DaBestGnome ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:10:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These fucking bants
myriiad ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:33:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
REKT
_TheSiege_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:34:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Straight savage
Ranvier01 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:13:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oooohhh, snaaaaap.
AirRaidJade ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:03:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin' slayed
Points_out_shit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:00:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haiku_for_your_sprog
Fwendly_Mushwoom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:22:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking savage
lroosemusic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:42:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SHOTS FIRED
altitude_vagabond ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:07:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Daaaaaaaamn! Poetic savagery at it's finest! Also, I love that you still rhymed in the haiku.
alt-fact-checker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:29:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This checks out. sniffles
StamatopoulosMichael ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:37:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, what a burn!
alabamapanda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rekt
hinowisaybye ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:08:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking BURN!
ignis389 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:35:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THESE WOUNDS, THEY WILL NOT HEAL
real_nice_guy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absoluting fucking savage.
ESCALATING_ESCALATES ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rektum
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This poem is the most epic of burns
thtgyovrthr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shots.
fucking.
fired.
StagnantFlux ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SHOTS FUCKING FIRED!
DownvotesWankers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
U should write a book!
redskin7 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:48:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit! Do we have a rivalry on our hands?
Gloryblackjack ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:08:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HE'S CALLING YOU OUT SPRONG, CAN YOU PROVE HE'S WRONG!!!
VaderFan2187 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:53:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gloryblackjack ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:00:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah, I see my phantom n syndrome acted up again my apologies. It's a debilitating disease caused by being exposed to the English language too much. It's very similar to the phantom g and the phantom h syndrome.
VaderFan2187 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, sorry to hear that! I apologize
Leharen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:57:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's snowing on Mt. Fuji.
compwiz1202 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has to be long to pay homage to how long it took to save to a floppy.
penny_eater ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:45:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
slightly disappointed that this didnt turn into a limerick... [twinkle dissolve]
Poem_for_your_sprog,
Your poems are way too long.
You should learn haiku,
Its quite good for you
Now go jump in a bog
im_not_afraid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Color TV
Money for nothing
LavastormSW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You think you're so smart
With your fancy little words.
This is not so hard.
DownvotesWankers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
U should write a book!
yinyang107 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:22:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why that adieu is so funny.
GasTsnk87 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:54:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, that's Sprog, man. Could have used "goodbye" and it still would have worked with the flow, but he gives it that little extra something.
Groovatronic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It hints at bon voyage - which hints at "godspeed". Basically it makes the poem almost nautical, like a sailor's song, which makes it even more epic.
TheDuckSideOfTheMoon ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 17:20:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A fresh sprog!!
The_Guber ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:32:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A fresh "A fresh sprog!" comment!
guest114455 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need a new website
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TwistedSou1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:27:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check the handle. Then go lik bred.
TheDuckSideOfTheMoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A child
theoxandmoon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:36:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are these good every single time? You're supernatural.
Demi_Bob ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:45:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right!? I was impressed the first time I stumbled on one of Sprogs works, but I'm absolutely amazed at the consistency of quality.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:30:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sniff HOW DOES YOU DO THESE? My biggest goal in life is to have a comment answered by His Majesty Sprog
sj3l9q1mnb05s53c2g8x ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:23:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh and you even weaved "adieu" in there. It's beautiful.
Sick0rSan3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:20:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another great work by master Sprog!
PersisPlain ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:26:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sighted fresh in the wild!!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:06:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bon voyage.
Ko0osy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing.
smitywrbnjAgrmanjnsn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rest in spaghetti, never forgety
wiredian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Floppy disk died for your sins.
oldmannew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And who is eight days old must have their disc circumcised,and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and you.
FourStopCrossShot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is probably one of my new favorite sprog (sprogian) poems. Thank you and adieu, sweet floppy disk.
ocean365 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A new high for this account
prog_remix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
remember the symbol yo, remember the sign
keep the moments fresh in your mind
passion and actions, pictures and song
he saved a lot of right things--and a lot of wrong ;-)
defeated the darkness and he knew the risk
but he finally fell to that bastard... SanDisk
zgf2022 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diskette
DownvotesWankers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
U should write a book!
swan-sie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love the smell of sprog in the morning
yours_untruly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is the second poem i read today just after it was posted, i feel like i'm being part of it
jstrydor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*adios
but even with the type this was really good! I'm kidding guys geesh
datapixel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poem_for_your_sprog
May you be short of tooth
And it be years before you grow old
For I hope that you have
Many decades of youth
Left to spend all of your reddit gold.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
0/10
Heathen06 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:53:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so very happy this exists ๐๐๐๐
kind2311 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:21:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shut up
damstraight4 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you
LeviAEthan512 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Use smaller words. Big ones may not fit in a floppy
tezz189 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, how shallow and pedantic...
TheGhizzi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:56:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Get me some Emoryยฎ paper, Boys! Looks like we've got ourselves an edge!"
NewbornMuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now all you need is "eloquent" and "powerful" and you have a /r/bestof submission.
TheBitcher3WildCunt ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 17:11:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironic...
its_a_trapcard ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 18:36:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could save others, but it couldn't save itself.
jdhhdbdh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:46:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth floppy disk the wise?
meee39 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:49:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a story most kids would tell
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
moesif ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what he said, it couldn't save itself. Do you really not know what they're referencing?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:14:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Acrophobe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't believe you ever existed either, young child. But it's okay, we the slightly older generation know of the Floppy and his salvation. He saved my book reports once, a true hero.
circle_square_leaf ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 16:28:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing. I shamelessly saved your comment.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:52:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its an old joke to repost when this topic comes up.
Just-Call-Me-J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saved the comment for the clash of the poets.
marvk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/madlads
overbread ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:47:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the S on Superman stands for 'save'?
-zimms- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:47:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if he's in control.
overbread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You a rapper or something? Mad props
-zimms- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never touched that woman!
overbread ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just the best to you and your family.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sniff HOW DOES YOU DO THESE? Also, wow, a 7 minute old Sprog. YEET
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:30:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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-zimms- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:36:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DiscoPanda84 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:57:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way I remember it is that magnetic (HDD, floppy, Zip) is disk, while optical (CD, DVD, Blu-Ray) is disc.
SkullButtReplica ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is correct. Fuck knows why though.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:58:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always thought "disk" and "disc" were like "color" and "colour", spelled differently between American and British English
jscr01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American and proper English *
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:49:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Except how Brits say just about everything incorrectly.
TwatsThat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:30:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It pretty much is. Popular use is that disk is used for magnetic media and disc is used for optical but it's not a rule, just what most people do.
Dreamcast3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like how you got gilded for copying a Facebook meme from 2013. That's reddit for you.
fangxx456 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This deserves way more up votes
soldier_of_fourchan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You deserved that gold
Colonel_Eliphaz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:16:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And also some frankincense and myrrh.
-zimms- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like your user name. Makes me think you're an old fart, like I am.
soldier_of_fourchan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am almost 30!
hobbykitjr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was a sassy teenager
TeteDeMerde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WWFDD
devraj7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus saves, but does he back up?
djdadi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would actually be hilarious to see a tiny Jesus icon in a program, and when you hover over him it just says "Save you"
kuz_929 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus saves. So should you.
SymphonyInPeril ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still use floppy disks every day at work, interestingly enough.
-zimms- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is working at a museum?
SymphonyInPeril ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Believe it or not, I run embroidery. I use the disks to transfer the logos from the computer to the machines!
-zimms- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds interesting! Didn't know that.
SymphonyInPeril ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even more interesting: Iโve worked at 3 different embroidery places. 2 of them use floppy disks. Iโm amazed every time I have to use it (like 10+ times a day) haha
-zimms- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Embroidery sounds like a wholesome and satisfying job. But I'm sure you also have "those" days, like everyone else. :D
SymphonyInPeril ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do the design work too so itโs definitely fun and doesnโt really feel like a dragging day job. But yes, we all have those days haha
SnootBoooper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You either die a hero or live long enough to see your self become the villain.
CedarCabPark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a savior
LexSenthur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So THAT'S why Jesus died!
nebbono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He could save us, but he could not save himself
ibcj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can I get a little cracker shaped like a floppy disk that I eat whenever I save something to the cloud?
throw_my_phone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While CDs became a symbol for disco
AdmiralAkbar1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only for the Orthodox, though. The other denominations aren't to big on iconography.
nojustlurkingty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Floppy disk icon should be changed to Jesus because he saves.
Told that to my religious manager once. I donโt work there anymore
bogidyboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....nice....
wlane13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying that... The Floppy disk was like Jesus (in that it died to become our icon)? Or were you saying... "Like... JESUS... the floppy disk died to become our icon of saving" As in an exclamation...
Because I can read this sentence either way in my mind and it kind of works.
Schroevendraaier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In floppy I trust (especially when I was writing my thesis)
notquickthrowaway303 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My younger sister keeps thinking the floppy disk icon is a printer, and keeps pressing it to print... then proceeds to ask me why printer isn't working.
Imobviouslydrunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me laugh a little too much.
ReceptiveRaptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He died to save us
Colonel_Eliphaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a devoted Disktian, I always ask myself: What would Floppy do?
GirIsKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
That's enough Reddit for today
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm using this in a sermon sometime.
kabukistar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It died after becoming our icon door saving though. It dying wasn't really required for becoming the icon.
nascentia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but what was Jesus' storage capacity?
TheLurkingMenace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus saves... but Satan backs up to the cloud.
Isilthar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this will be my new religion. I will become floppian. Or floppist?
SkullButtReplica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That may be the best response Iโve ever seen on Reddit. Bravo!
zywrek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, it became an icon long before it died.
Linus696 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The floppy disk.... our drive and savior
FloppyDiskHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never forget.
TheVicePresident ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This user is nowhere near the first person to say this
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It died for our salvation
earthshaker495 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an old floppy disk on my desk. My 14 year old cousin came and asked why I had a model of a save icon. Made me realize how far we've come
ilovemallory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's amazing. Although definitely something I'd totally see on reddit
SergeantRegular ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read an (online) story a few years back. "Ra" by Sam Hughes. A major plot point was a cosmic-level supercomputer. The heroes "saved the world". Literally. Not as in they spared its destruction, it was absolutely destroyed, along with billions of lives. But they literally saved it. Like you save a spreadsheet, they saved the entire population of the planet as data to be restored at a later time.
Great story.
Therearenopeas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I was in a thread the other day when someone said that a younger person thought the floppy disk icon was a refrigerator. When OP asked why he thought that, the kid replied that when you want to save something for later you put it in the refrigerator, duh.
Scharnvirk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironic. They were never really good at saving things.
theBotThatWasMeta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironic, he could save others, but not himself
pac2005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus is an apt metaphor
Acrophobe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is our savior. Worship the savior of our work! Worship Mister Floppy!
VuthaCayosin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's one for /r/Showerthoughts
electricmaster23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like this because it is a triple-layered joke.
buyBitc0in ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brilliant
varkarrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
floppy disk was truly the second coming
Poyo-Poyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. It was already our icon of saving. Its dying had nothing to do with such status, and completely unnecessary.
R34CTz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the floppy disk is still dead.
robbzilla ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:26:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I.... think I love you... just a little.
[deleted] ยท 740 points ยท Posted at 16:03:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Loads of icons have this - thephone icon is an old timey phone, record icon an old fashioned microphone, the paste icon is a clipboard, the recycle bin for deleted files, a letter for emails etc. They're called skeuomorphs iirc
EDIT: I didn't recall correctly skeuomorph is the wrong word
pipsdontsqueak ยท 261 points ยท Posted at 17:05:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know we still use those microphones, clipboards, and recycling bins, right? Those, at least, are not obsolete real world objects.
tylenol1234 ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 18:45:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still use telephones with physical handsets too. I guess OP has never worked in an office....
Tejasgrass ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:11:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, all the registers at my grocery stores have normal phones.
flyingfences ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is Reddit in 2017; you have to assume, unless presented with direct evidence otherwise, that anyone you interact with is too young to have ever held a job in their life.
SkyPork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not, if what I hear about most companies' current hiring status is accurate.
A_BOMB2012 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:25:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still use letters also.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm reading this on a clipboard right now!
calllery ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:51:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reading this on a potato
vanderBoffin ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 20:05:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen a clipboard in years. Would've thought tablets made those obsolete.
h3lme7 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:24:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paper is still extremely popular.
nabrok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bulldog clip on top of the tablet, problem solved!
calllery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use A3 clipboards for marking up drawings on sites!
metallicrooster ยท 298 points ยท Posted at 16:16:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of those make sense except for the recycle bin. Most places still have one.
What else would they use for the symbol?
Edit: and actually, mail is still totally common. Most people get mail. And again, what other symbol would you use for electronic mail?
[deleted] ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 16:35:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Microphones aren't uncommon, but most people outside of broadcasting or podcasting won't likely interact with a mic this shape much, if at all. So it's less that microphones are uncommon and more that that style of microphone is uncommon to most of the people who are using a cell phone.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:04:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:15:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I still see floppy disks in movies, but that's because I love re-watching Hackers...
beirch ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:12:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of streamers use that kind of microphone, I think it's quite recognisable tbh
[deleted] ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 18:14:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That assumes that you watch streamers; lots of people don't watch them. Plenty do, most don't, from a sheer percentage of the total population of cellphone users.
xxtoejamfootballxx ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok...but everyone still knows exactly what a microphone is. It's not like all of a sudden less people are using microphones like that, if anything it's probably more now.
lolmemelol ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:03:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing that has changed is that MORE people are likely to be using a mic shaped like that icon.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddammit, I linked the wrong picture. That microphone, yeah, more modern.
Ones that look more like this with the big vents are the ones I'm thinking of; stylized versions of these sorts of microphones, which are only really used for retro buffs.
hitemlow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With how popular Twitch is and how much dosh some streamers put into their setups, they'd still experience it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
see this post
hitemlow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, a desk mic. You can see those from time to time. Most modern desk mics can also be mounted on a boom arm, and most people do. They can be the same shape and everything, they're just upside down.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am aware of what a desk mic is and I have one. I'm talking about that particular style, with the all-metal exterior with vents, that the other icon is mimicking. That style of microphone hasn't really been around for a while, but some icons mimic it.
Saxon2060 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:37:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, these stand out as still being 100% relevant icons to me. Just because they're figurative and not literal doesn't mean they're obsolete... all icons are figurative. As you said, what else would the bin be??
EmeraldIbis ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:05:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The delete icon should be nothing, blank space. To represent deletion and the ensuing eternal nothingness.
fatpad00 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:39:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But delete doesn't permanently get rid of the file. It tosses it in a place that you have to empty later. Or you can rummage through to fund that thing you accidentally got rid of
GlassMeccaNow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then it should be a picture of a man emptying a rubbish bin with a calendar showing that it is Tuesday, which is when the rubbish gets picked up.
fatpad00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because you'll be dust by Monday... because you'll be pulverized in two seconds. The cleaning lady? She cleans up... dust. She dusts.
So, what's on Monday?
'Cause... it's Friday now, she's the weekends off, so... Monday, right?"
mathcampbell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All except the folders & save icons; As an icon designer, it worries me when designing these things. I did a project where the key demographic was young kids. I mean, sure they'll probably have to learn it at some point anyway...but how do you explain the floppy-disc icon is how you save the file, to someone who has never heard of a floppy disc, and will almost certainly never see one in real life. I've seen it just refer to as the "save icon"...because people have never seen the origin of it.
Folders are the same, to a lesser extent, because some older type places still use manilla folders to store paperwork.
I think this is a limited situation where skeuomorphic designs fail, if the original object has ceased to exist.
minusthedrifter ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:55:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Older type places? Try any business that needs hard copies of documents.
mad0314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/Ol-wwJBVncQ?t=20s
Obi-Tron_Kenobi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:57:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manila folders are still very common. Not just in "older places."
mathcampbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In offices I've worked in, it tends to be ring-binders with poly-pockets now. Secure files are scanned into the network and paper either archived securely or incinerated. I was in local government though, where info-sec is seen as a little more important I guess than a lot of industry...
travis_zs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Did they ever have their IT infrastructure pen tested? Local municipalities are the butt of jokes in the infosec community.
Anyway, you shouldn't worry about icons being inspired by obsolete objects. The icons have come to embody the meaning without the need for a familiarity with the original object. You can just learn the meaning of icons exactly the way you learn the meaning of words. I personally don't see the floppy disk icon and think, "that must be the button for saving my work because that's a floppy disk which I used to save files on in a bygone era."
mathcampbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe to a degree, but my locality was regularly pen-tested, and fairly secure...in Scotland - I've no idea what local authorities over the pond are like. Here, they have to meet the (not amazing, to be fair) standards of UK Government to access shared resources etc. so they are inspected and practices must be in place and proper.
Doesn't mean they're brilliant, but as it happens our IT dept. was headed by some fairly rational folks and it was pretty good. All network access was MAC-address limited etc., only authority-owned devices allowed on (which I always bitched about because I wanted my iPad on the network, dammit!), no user-installed programs, passwords must be rotated on a fortnightly/monthly basis (no reuse either! Had a random generator!)..
Re: icons, eh, I mean, I get where you're coming from, but the trouble is, those icons need to have a meaning based on that original object...if you're not at all familiar, to the point where you don't know WHAT the icon is actually based on...it's different if you recognise it's a a floppy disc, and that means save, even if you don't really know why...and someone who has never sen and will never see the actual thing, so all they have is a pictorial representation to go by, because each icon is different...now it's just a symbol, and as symbols go, a (usually blue) square with a white lined bit at the bottom and a grey shiny bit at the top isn't exactly much to go by...
Saxon2060 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would think folders were still relevant enough. Kids would see folders of some kind in school. They might not recognise a manila folder right away as an object they've seen. But they may have done and putting paperwork in a folder is something they will have done or seen. I hadn't seen specifically a manila folder as a kid in the 90s/00s because they're more associated with grown-up admin and filing cabinets. But I had seen envelopes and rings binders and plastic document wallets so probably being told "that icon is a folder that you put documents in" was enough for me to easily understand both what the icon was for and what object it depicted.
Floppy disks, I suppose there's no reason they would have seen them and explaining that the icon is that was because 'a long time ago' you used to use this object as removable storage but no one uses them any more... seems a bit silly. Perhaps the save icon should have become a hard disk or CD a long time ago. Maybe now it should be an SD card, although obviously these aren't used quite the same way as floppy disks were.
Skipachu ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:12:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A trash can? All kinds of weird stories in IT support. I once helped a lady who would pull Word docs out of the bin, delete all the text inside the file, and then start typing up a whole new thing. ... Because it's a Recycling Bin and she wanted to re-use the files instead of just deleting them. I was called in to help because she couldn't figure out how to re-use a PDF file. She thought the bin had somehow locked or corrupted it.
AnUnnamedSettler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The environmental derpyness of this story makes me smile.
CrackaAssCracka ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:16:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
@
thighmaster69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs for twitter and Instagram now
wokeupquick2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a clipboard.... I use mine at work daily.
nitz__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Electron cloud. Duh.
HoverboardsDontHover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The recycle bin is just Microsoft's copy of the Mac trash can while trying to be cute about it.
i_want_that_boat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And microphones. Plenty of people use microphones and they still look like that. I did last week.
Av3ngedAngel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An envelope enveloped in electricity and lightning?
Boatman666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a clipboard everyday
JustRuss79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
@
stromm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think working in an office.
Before computers, everything was on paper. When you made a mistake or just wanted to get rid of a file (that being a document or set of pages making up a document), you would literally toss them in the trash can.
You could "recover" them up until the cleaning people came along and emptied the trash can into their cart. That almost always happened at night when no workers were around.
As people became more eco-friendly, businesses placed recycle bins alongside trash cans.
Techwood111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A fucking trash can, which is what it was before Microsoft stole Windows. And don't give me that "but Xerox PARC" bullshit; that was a negotiated deal. While we're at it, recall that code from Quicktime was stolen, copied verbatim, and used inside Windows MediaPlayer.
superflippy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC, Windows used the recycle bin symbol instead of the trash can for deleting files because they didnโt want to be seen as ripping off MacOS too literally.
SirDooble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think there is an item that would reflect recycling or e-mail, but the recycle symbol and an @ sign are both effective at conveying the meaning of a recycle bin and an e-mail client.
I do think it more odd that we call it a recycle bin, rather than just a bin, because we're not actually recycling data like we do paper. Maybe a papershredder is a better metaphor for deleting?
alfred725 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:36:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're recycling the hard drive space
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technologically this is apt, because you're not even really changing the contents of the hard disk when you delete things most of the time, you're telling the drive that that space is OK to re-use when it needs to.
minusthedrifter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why we have recovery software that can restore, or at least partially restore deleted data. Also why those who want to scrub a hard drive have to take extra steps beyond just hitting delete.
Noclue55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:07:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An envelope but with RAM
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:42:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a lightning bolt exiting Zeus's anus?
TheCondor07 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:10:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, you need to get with the present! Don't you know that no one recycles anymore! /s
batty3108 ยท 493 points ยท Posted at 16:09:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A note for people who don't know - 'skeuomorph' refers to an icon mimicking a physical object.
For ages I was confused and thought the term referred to icons still portraying obsolete technology.
Siarles ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 16:19:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool. Now how do I pronounce it?
easymoneyshotgun ยท 174 points ยท Posted at 16:28:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like this: skeuomorphs
ToddVonToddson ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 16:43:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thanks, I was pronouncing it like skeuomorphs.
Japlow ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 16:54:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't tell me you say gif too
numberguy9647383673 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:26:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With a silent g
12muffinslater ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:02:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As gif they weren't bad enough already.
Zaron_The_Insane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no its gif
Sentient_Waffle ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:03:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs skeuMORPHs not SKEUOmorphs!
BANDG33K_2009 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:07:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leviosaaaaaaaa
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I feel dumb, I was pronouncing it skeUMORphs
batty3108 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:28:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skyoo-oh-morph, I think.
couldcarelesss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:06:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh
crazyknowscrazy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skew-oh or skew-uh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eu in german sounds like oi as in oil so i was pronouncing it like skoi-oh-morphs. Turns out it is like the eu in europe.
Henkersjunge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Id guess like Scoia'tael
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like this: I-t.
BigUptokes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:55:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a virtual skeuomorph and skeuomorphs are not limited to just icons. It could be anything from electric candles being made in the form of old wax ones or wood-paneling on cars/80's basements that isn't made of wood.
From wiki: "a derivative object that retains ornamental design cues (attributes) from structures that are inherent to the original"
PM_ME_A_STEAM_GIFT ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:30:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just one, but the entire UI. E.g. the Notes app on iOS has a paper texture.
Scott Forstall, who was in charge of iOS until iOS 6, was a huge fan of skeuomorphism. That's why the Calendar app had a leather and stitching texture among other things. Then when he was fired, after Job's death, they removed most of these textures in iOS 7.
beatenangels ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only icons but design as well, such as how many notepad apps are yellow and lined when there's no reason to do that other than familiarity.
batty3108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, you can at least still buy lined yellow notepads.
beatenangels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's a concept that it isn't required in a digital setting. Lines are useful for aligning words when handwriting. This isn't an issue with typing. Designers do it anyways to create a sense of familiarity.
i_want_that_boat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!!! Awesome vocab word!
Dominicsjr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was also one of the main early iOS design philosophies. Itโs why the notepad was yellow and had lines, or why game-center used the green felt background, draws users into the experience with familiarity.
drysart ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:24:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What you're describing isn't skeuomorphism. Skeuomorphism is when a derivative object retains ornamental design cues from the original. For instance, if you had an address book app and its background was made to look like leather, that would be skeuomorphism because an actual address book might have a skin made of leather. A notepad app might have a paper texture as a background to mimic an actual paper notepad; even though in both cases there's no need to have that leather texture or paper texture in an app because there's no leather or paper involved.
Icons aren't an ornamental design cues in this way. There is no physical object that a computer clipboard derives from that the button having a clipboard on it is trying to mimic. It's not pretending to be a physical clipboard, it's just using the imagery of a clipboard to inform to the user what that button is and what it does; it's merely being used as a symbol to represent the meaning of the button.
Basically, the difference is in whether something is trying to look like something else for ornamental purpose. If it is, that's skeuomorphism. If it's not, if it's just using the image of something else for instructional or descriptive purpose, then it's simply symbolic ideography.
monarc ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:06:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, you're right - they're just ideograms. Thank god there's still so much wood paneling out there to prompt me to show off my knowledge of the word "skeuomorph"...
Euchre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But there's a term for when an ideogram uses an obsolete reference object to describe its function. No, I can't find or figure out what that term is, and /u/drysart didn't offer it up, either. However, the bulk of the replies here are about the linguistic version of that idea.
tylenol1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Microsoft Bob was the pinnacle of skeuomorphism
laowai_shuo_shenme ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:59:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old timey phone? We still had phones with receivers that looked like that in the 90s. Get off my lawn!
ZappySnap ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still have phones with receivers now. Does no one actually work at an office?
EmeraldIbis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:06:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, is that like school but for adults? /s
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs exactly like that
laowai_shuo_shenme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Receivers, yes, but they're made by Cisco and they look a bit different from the icon on my phone. The icon itself looks just like the receivers from phones from the 80s and 90s.
ZappySnap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My office phone looks like this
The receiver is pretty close to the current icons.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was born in 99 so...
gaslacktus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So get off their lawn. AND MINE!
yinyang107 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:23:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recycle bins are still relevant.
ReallyHadToFixThat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:33:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not so much old fashioned as professional. You can still buy big chunky stand microphones and the quality is better.
honestFeedback ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whilst youโre not wrong, every single one of those is in fairly common use today. Except for the disk.
Rhea_of_the_Coos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The voicemail button on my office phone shows a cassette tape.
demize95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most voicemail icons are based on reel-to-reel tapes, so a cassette tape is an interesting choice. Are our icons slowly evolving?
Grizzly_Berry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My record icon is actually soundwaves.
MiningdiamondsVIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
h e y v s a u c e m i c h a e l h e r e
KevinCostNerf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old timey as in office phone?
Exodus111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah we still use those.
battles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw something the other day, which I cannot find, but if you ask a child to pretend to talk on a phone they will hold their hand flat up to the side of their head, palm towards their ear.... not the 'hang loose' gesture commonly used.
ssfsx17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Studio microphones still look like that
Recycle bin can still look like that
Clipboards still exist
Floppy disks and telephones are definitely out-of-date though.
aprofondir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are actually still used
cidrei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like that people keep calling the phone "old timey." When I hear that term I think of something like this or this, but most people are clearly describing a rotary style handset.
TrustMeIKnowThisOne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of like the camera icons being digital cameras and the video icon being a camcorder. Kind of strange thought how it used to be camcorders in the audience and reflective housing flashes/clicks from a digital camera or disposable camera. Now it's all on our smart phone.
3423553453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All phone icons are at the very least made after a touch-tone phone. Not that old-timey.
instantpancake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Microphones still look like that.
Proper microphones, that is. And the "just a tiny hole in the surface of the device" type has also been around for decades (my old tape deck in the 80s had one already).
GayFesh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't one of the gold standard professional recording mics like pretty much unchanged for a hundred years and looks like that?
MattieShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also known as a microphone. Like the old rotary bakelite phones don't really exist any more, but microphone shaped microphones definitely do.
OneFinalEffort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People use microphones in music all the time and clipboards are used all the damn time for paperwork.
Also my bills aren't digital and recycling bins are used daily. I think it used to be a trash can before humanity went green.
Wiiplay123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The old timey phone thing is actually a bit of a problem for eye exams that use icons, because kids don't recognize the old timey phone as a phone.
Iksuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not an old microphone, what do you think a new microphone looks like?
314159265358979326 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the record icon was a circle.
smrtbomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The concept for the infamously copied Xerox Alto was an analogy of the physical desktop. All the icons and terminology was meant to mimic real desk items that people would be familiar with (file cabinet, trash bin, etc.)
A lot of the imagery, analogies, and terms created for the Alto are still used today.
Edit: here is a link about the Alto. Really cool piece of computer history http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/input-output/14/347
Poiuy2010_2011 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao all of these things are still widely used.
dutchmasterch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe that's what we will call the iphone icons in a few decades.
hrtfthmttr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok but we use clipboards every day. That's a terrible example.
VectorLightning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, professionals use the classic looking mics. They do waste a lot of space, but the audio quality can't be beat. Less noise, pick up better range, etc.
And mail? Letters aren't extinct yet. Less common, but a lot of things are sent by paper mail, all my bills that aren't for apps are on paper.
And recycle bin? WTF you haven't seen a recycle bin recently???
audaciousterrapin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:29:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I train staff at work at various tasks. Many of them are young. I'll tell them - Just click on that icon to save it. "Oh you mean the tv?" TV - what are you talking about? "The picture of the little tv." That's not a tv - that's a floppy disk. "What's a floppy disk?" Never mind - just click on the tv.
JimmyNuttrin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:33:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironic. It could save others but not itself.
elee0228 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:38:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I can't think of a better symbol to replace it.
runasaur ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:06:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the little cloud with an upload arrow is what I've seen on some platforms.
I don't like it :(
jamener ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:41:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't like the "send to the gods" icon?
effedup ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:37:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That means upload to the cloud.
BobForBananas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:05:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that is specifically for saving to the cloud.
gerusz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:50:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An arrow pointing down towards some grayish flat rectangle or a cloud if that's where the file is on computers. The same, but with a smartphone symbol in landscape on phones. Replace the arrow with one pointing up for loading.
Rabidleopard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:57:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep the symbol but write save on it in tiny letters maybe.
SleepingBlob456 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:32:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the point of a symbol is to represent something without having to use words.
bexar_necessities ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen sd cards being used as symbols sometimes. They're both similar shaped so it won't be that big of a transition.
HoverboardsDontHover ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard kids now think its a picture of fridge and you put your stuff in the fridge to "save" it.
gaspitsjesse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking like a hard drive with an arrow pointing down to it, like, "file will save here!"
2buckburrito ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:50:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My coworker recently referred to the icon as โThe Honda Signโ. I almost quit my job right then and there.
alienfreaks04 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:51:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 20 years, this will be an ELI5
lukemelon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of this
pixiebuhp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the first thing it reminded me of. I'm not even that old and I've used floppy disks.
Springpeen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with the phone icon
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of features in digital technology are like this. There's a word for it, not anachronism, but something else. Somebody please remind me if you know what I'm looking for.
Like how camera apps make the shutter sound. There's no reason for that other than it reminds you of an actual camera. But now fewer and fewer people have actual cameras unless they're photographers, so you associate that sound with the digital technology.
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The shutter sound is also so that people can't take sneaky creepshots of other people as easily.
Voodoosweater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skeuomorphism
erasmause ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! I've been trying to remember that word for days.
Unreal_Banana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isnt save different now? Like -> ]
ridger5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an exit sign showing you the door.
marksolomon32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A floppy disk is now my cup holder.
bidiboop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with snail mail being the icon for email.
TheNessLink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still use those
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the attachment icon being a paper clip
cheesypoofs5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First thing I thought of.
imonlysayinthiscuz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well what else could we use as an icon instead??
raw031979b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ringer on the phone...it used to be an actual bell.
zismahname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, floppy disks were used more often than cdrw or zip discs until the mid 2000's when thumb drives started to become more accessible.
Vague_Discomfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve got 3 of them knocking around in my apartment.
I๏ธ want to make them into coasters, but the guy at the FedEx store said their laminator would break them, so Iโm stuck trying to figure out a way to give them a clear seal.
Iโd actually really appreciate suggestions on this.
LeeColi16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:42 on January 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe use Sellotape or something. Might work, might not.
queenoreo ยท 245 points ยท Posted at 19:55:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The little girl I watch asked me to โcharge the Christmas treeโ. What she wanted was for me to plug it in; but she literally has never plugged anything in, everything she touches gets charged.
xilstudio ยท 200 points ยท Posted at 20:30:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a remarkable skill!
FaxCelestis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:42:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't work out too well for that one guy on X-Files.
HansPaul ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:37:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay there EA
dclaw504 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She has the static touch.
pac2005 ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 23:45:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you not get metaphors?
Iamonreddit ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:09:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...that's not a metaphor
xilstudio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
correct metathree at best....
namesarefunny ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:22:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you not get sarcasm? (Or metaphors lol)
nyrol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you not get jokes?
Alx1775 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theyโre to keep cows in, right?
collin-h ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:26:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when my oldest kid was probably 1-2-ish. She was somewhat familiar with iphones/ipads, enough so that she picked up a magazine and tried to scroll around on the page with her finger, haha.
beerigation ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:49:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just because she's young, not because we don't plug stuff in any more.
Oxideist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:53:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
His point was that she thought the Christmas tree had an internal battery like every other device around today (ie. Phones, laptops.)
So she thought the tree just needed "charged" because it had run out of battery, as she isn't familiar with old school tech that requires constant energy from an outlet.
beerigation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point still stands, it's just because she's young and doesn't understand how electricity works yet or doesn't use certain appliances yet, not because plug in electronics are a thing of the past. Does your TV run on a battery? How about your microwave and oven?
Oxideist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
His original comment was things she had contacted, she's too young to have messed with those appliances
awesome_lamer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:33:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I think it's odd since her chargers would need to be plugged into a wall socket or into a computer to charge her devices. Maybe she thought the Christmas tree was wirelessly lit and that's why it needed charged.
DjTotenkopf ยท 1335 points ยท Posted at 16:18:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The newest example I can think of that might qualify is 'podcast', as a noun or verb.
I imagine there are at least as many people still 'rolling' their windows up and down as using a dedicated iPod.
SirDooble ยท 469 points ยท Posted at 17:21:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there an alternative name for them not related to the iPod? Podcast is a pretty nice name though, and I like that it's not overly descriptive. "Online Digital Radioshow" is perhaps the best I can describe them, without being too specific, but it's an awful name.
DjTotenkopf ยท 920 points ยท Posted at 17:27:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like 'podcast' too. "Digitally Distributed Long-Form Radio-Like Audio Recording For Your Enlightenment Or Entertainment, Brought To You By Squarespace" never really caught on.
Brawndo91 ยท 422 points ยท Posted at 17:53:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I've always called them "Digitally Distributed Long-Form Radio-Like Audio Recording For Your Enlightenment Or Entertainment, Brought To You By Me Undies".
dataisking ยท 193 points ยท Posted at 18:16:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget Stamps.com
SurroundedByMachines ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 19:49:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Audible
the_grand_idiot ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 20:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Casper mattresses are obsessively engineered...
treekid ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 20:32:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grocery shopping can be a thing of the past thanks to Blue Apron!
JacP123 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:54:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get expensive watches for cheap with MVMT Watches. Something something 2 broke college kids.
LittleOrphanPringles ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:21:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're eating yourself into an early and uneducated grave.
Something something peanut butter mom noms.
Nature box.
nolotusnotes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's been a breach! Your data's not safe. Get LifeLock today!
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thread count doesn't matter, it's the material itself. Boll, spelled B-O-L-L, and branch.
BoogsterSU2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:21:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/unexpectedjacksfilms
Also, don't forget hover.com!
JacP123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me more /r/unexpectedrt
LordGalen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Around this time of year, don't forget Omaha Steaks!
SethMarcell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call it BlapeRun.
apetc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:32:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At a polite price.
lmfaodeadass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Skillshare.
whatwouldbuddhadrive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Squarespace.
shootupLWC210 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:05:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zip rrrrrrrrrcrrrewta
Are you hiring? WELL ARE YA?
UniteMachines ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ba do doop. Me undies, me undies....
shootupLWC210 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....why they called podcasts?
Me undies, me undies...
Northcrook ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like a rhinestone ballbag...
bigcountry5064 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This podcast brought to you by Ting!
FrankiePancakes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"And you'll never have to go to the post office... ageeeen".
I hate that guy
bkelley1239 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When your darty turns into a narty, Miller Lite should be your beer of choice
theryman ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:15:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Modaaaaal
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:48:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zip..................................................recruiTAH
arerecyclable ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:33:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LAAAADIESSS
CrossBreedP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I almost thought about browsing the MeUndies selection, but then I listened to an episode of SYMHC where Holly Fry had to read an advert for them and talk about how Me undies cradles your balls so well, and I couldn't.
Brawndo91 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:42:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bill Burr does the best Me undies reads. Somebody took one where he was singing and gave it a piano accompaniment. I never looked into them because I hate the name.
CrossBreedP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it sounds like a 3 year old asking for their undewear? ME UNDIES!
soigneusement ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh goddd haha. I love SYMIHC but Holly has the most nasally voice sometimes.
CrossBreedP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She does. The worst part of her reading that commercial was you could tell how uncomfortable she even though she remained super professional.
soigneusement ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What episode was this do you remember? I only started listening a few months ago and I always skip through the adverts (and feel kind of guilty about it)
CrossBreedP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember sadly. It was months ago and I skip around a lot so I am not always listening to the newest episode.
AllCheeseEverything ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:07:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that last bit as "brought to you by me, Undies."
skybluegill ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:09:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hey it's me ur undies
cubosh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:13:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh you mean DDLFRLARFYEOE's
zazathebassist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Build a better website with Squarespace
Mocorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ba dop dop doo...
dacoobob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I finally gave into the constant barrage of podcast ads and bought some MeUndies a few months ago. Huge waste of money. The McElroys lied to me : (
elwynbrooks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the penguin ones and they're fucking adorable
They are actually pretty comfy but they pill like a motherfucker
dacoobob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:54:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny I had the opposite experience, zero pilling but theyโre not comfortable at all. Maybe I just have weird shaped junk
elwynbrooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe a different style would be better?
I have a vulva so don't really have experience with how they feel with dangly bits involved.
Camstonisland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No more sweaty ballsโข"
angelgeronimo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve got a basketball game tomorrow
alganthe ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:14:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe 'audiocast' would work.
Markarther ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:16:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs for when itโs sponsored by Audible.
_Booker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:46:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
netcast as well
Ghsdkgb ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:54:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use "DDLFRLARFYEOE" all the time! Mostly when I'm eating and I bite my cheek or something.
Alfredo412 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:57:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like half the internet is funded by Squarespace.
ParticleCannon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blog for writing, Blag for blathering?
theSeanO ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS episode of the Rooster Teeth Digitally Distributed Long-Form Radio-Like Audio Recording For Your Enlightenment Or Entertainment is brought to you by Squarespace
mortiphago ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this sounds right out of a "MFW americans call..." meme
PanKurzcak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many people need websites that squarespace still finds it profitable to sponsor every single show i can think of?
Juggernauticall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But "Podcast brought to you by Squarespace" has.
Scourgie1681 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/AccidentalInfiniteJest
wedontlikespaces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's not Squarespace it's Audible.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Squarspace? Ugh, as if!
brought to you by audible
Ulcerlisk ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:27:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radioshow? ๐
Podcast being a play on broadcast is pretty great. Easy to understand and transition into, and now it's taken a life of its own. Probably here to stay just like rewind.
SirDooble ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:33:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, radioshow is a bit of an awkward one! It's the most similar medium, and a lot of radioshows are recorded as podcasts too. But it still doesn't fit the bill.
Even broadcast is iffy because most podcasts have never been broadcasted anywhere, just hosted online.
MyHatIsAPigeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Audioshow
dataisking ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:17:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But they're not radio.
FaxCelestis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radioshow doesn't work since it's not on a radio or distributed via radio waves in realtime.
ccooffee ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:37:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Netcast" possibly, but that doesn't really seem to be catching on. I think we're going to be stuck with Podcast for the long haul.
PointyOintment ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:14:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TWiT used "netcast" in their episode-opening slogan last I checked.
ccooffee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:23:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's where I hear it most, but I think Leo has basically given up and still calls them podcasts within the actual shows.
tatsuyoka ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:15:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Japan uses the phrase "Internet Radio" to describe what we would call a podcast.
PointyOintment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rest of the world uses that term to mean a medium like radio (i.e. real-time) distributed via the Internet.
MonaganX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:15:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If this thread has proved anything it's that it's perfectly cromulent to just stick with podcast. Most people don't know jack about etymology beyond the past few decades. Give it another couple of hundred years and no one but etymologists will even care where the word "podcast", which at that point probably describes holo-novels or something, originally came from.
RockyShea ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:26:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's start calling them ODRs, pronounced like otters. The world needs more reminders about otters.
SirDooble ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:31:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't mind telling people that I listen to otters on my way to work.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:25:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the idea that a podcast is broadcasting not to your iPhone but to your own personal anti-outside world pod. Wherever you are โ overcrowded bus, loud office, gridlocked motorway, or living room โ as soon as you start listening to a podcast, you are in your pod.
SirDooble ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:29:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I like that. That's quite a sweet and cosy way of thinking about it.
I can definitely relate to feeling like I'm in my own little bubble when I'm listening to my podcasts on my way home.
CharlieAzzurro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BBC radio went through a phase of calling them digital downloads but it never really stuck.
SirDooble ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:40:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No surprises for such a vague and unhelpful name lol.
TheMechanic40 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:57:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broadcast?
SirDooble ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:17:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bit too broad. Radio and Television are also broadcasted, and are actually transmitted via radio waves, whereas podcasts on the internet are mostly disseminated via wires.
TheMechanic40 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shows on the radio are sometimes called podcasts though, I don't think the term has to be exclusive to the medium.
PigSlam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:34:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Webcast is one I've seen used, since regardless of the device you use to experience the content, it's disseminated via the internet, or world wide web.
SirDooble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've now seen webcast and netcast as alternatives, and they're both pretty accurate but not too descriptive.
I think I prefer webcast, as it has a nice sound to it. I don't know if I prefer it to podcast as a word, but that might be because I'm very used to the word podcast.
PointyOintment ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:17:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't necessarily use the web to access them, though, whereas you do necessarily use the Internet.
dataisking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cyb3rR@ydii0
__loops__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:30:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first use of the term was in this Guardian article by Ben Hammersley.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/feb/12/broadcasting.digitalmedia
He also suggested AudioBlogging and GuerillaMedia.
Apparently TWIT calls them NetCasts.
zazathebassist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Online Talkshow" would describe most of what I listen to cause I mainly listen to the "two dudes talking" genre of podcasts. But it doesn't come close to describing the NPR/Radiotopia/Freakonomics style podcasts. Those would be "Online Audio Documentaries".
Let's stick with Podcasts.
AnalogOfDwarves ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:01:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zune or Rio or someone like that once tried to convince people "podcast" stood for "Personal On-Demand Broadcast".
CryptoCoinPanhandler ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:11:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ShoutCAST was the WinAmp version of the same thing. Pretty sure Winamp beat iPod by a few years.
AutoDestructo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. Shoutcast was their protocol for multicast streaming audio over WANs. Still is, I guess. A "podcast" was Apple's term for downloading an audio file every so often based on an RSS subscription.
I agree "NetCast" might be the best term, but that people will probably ignore it because they don't don't know or care what they're talking about.
Boltorano ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apple didn't invent the term "podcast". It was around for about a year and a half before Apple added them to iTunes.
CryptoCoinPanhandler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fair enough. thanks for the correction
cheesyvee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:09:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really whipped the llamaโs ass
CanadaJack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how many people use RF to access the internet, to let us keep using "radio" like that (considering the thread we're in).
theidleidol ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:50:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone using WiFi, for one thing.
CanadaJack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct, radio frequencies encompass all microwave frequencies, which encompasses all WiFi frequencies.
nedjeffery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but the term radio doesn't apply as it's not broadcast. How about Online Digital Audio Entertainment.
SirDooble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Much better description, but not a name I'd brand with :P
My only quibble is does 'Audio Entertainment' sound like it could also mean music and/or audiobooks?
nedjeffery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God damn, this is getting tricky.
Online distributed digital audio spoken word entertainment. Or ODDASWE for short.
Iksuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Talk show. This is the category that live podcasts on Twitch are put into IIRC.
servohahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They used to exist before podcasts. I can't remember what they were called. Real Player had a bunch of "radio" stations. I think it was just called internet radio.
Fordyce_Poons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
horcast.
Short for - Hour of rambling broadcast.
ConnerBartle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that was the case then the term radio show would be an answer to this question. Considering they don't use radio waves
DrStephenFalken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well to be fair the Journalist that came up with "podcast" combined broadcast and iPod and it was before Apple iPod supported podcasts. Back in 2004 /5 ish you had to download them from a site that did podcasts and then load them onto your iPod.
Rauldukeoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Digicast? I don't know what else to call them
depricatedzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just use the term "Stream" because that's pretty applicable and generic and generally is how they're viewed any more.
pugh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leo Laporte's TWiT network has called them "Netcasts" for years. I guess it hasn't stuck.
Arcsane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard "netcast" a few times, which I assume is meant to replace podcast - though it doesn't seem to have really caught on.
plazman30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The TWiT Network calls their shows "NetCasts."
mrmdc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But why radio though?
There's no radio involved.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:04:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am still using my 160 gb iPod. Production of such a beast has ceased and I'm sad. Next year is it's 10th birthday.
Hot_Shot_McGee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:40:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use mine as well. There's just so much room!
Jetboy01 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:45:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some generations of iPod still sell for a premium second hand because you can refresh or upgrade the storage with a simple laptop hard drive or compact flash card.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I upgraded mine with hi volume SD cards and a commercial circuit board.
JaxxisR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We can blame streaming for this. I loved mine back in the day.
ThatLexxyFellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would LOVE to still be using mine, I adored it. Had 80GB of music on there. I can manage around 4 on my phone if I jiggle apps around.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I mean, the ipod was the invention I dreamed about in the 70s. In fact, it far exceeded it.
goodvibeswanted2 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:15:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs where podcast came from? iPods? TIL.
cmetz90 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:13:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The idea behind the name is that it is in opposition to broadcast: Broadcast media is impersonal, designed to catch as many listeners as possible so itโs kind of bland and generic. Podcasts are small, close, and personal. You donโt just have to catch whateverโs begins flung out over the radio waves for any Tom, Dick, and Harry. You can pick your own content to your own tastes and carry it with you in our iPod.
Don_Shetland ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:35:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm still using my 160 gig Ipod classic, and i will until it stops working. I have way too much music and I've seen how my phone works when there's a lot photos on it. So, i'm holding out on switching as long as i can.
Nixflyn ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:54:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have a 30GB 4th gen iPod from 2005. Lasts about 15 min off the charger and it's on its 3rd battery and 2nd hard drive. Sounds better playing that over my car's USB port than Bluetooth by a long shot.
Sanders0492 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have my 5.5gen โiPod Videoโ (I think 60GB) that I got in 8th grade. That iPod is still one of the sleekest products Apple created. Thatโs back when Apple innovated by adding features instead of taking them away.
herbreastsaredun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:24:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm hoping to buy a used one when mine breaks.
When it comes to music nothing beats the battery life, storage capacity and general usability of an iPod. When they stopped making iPods Apple was dead to me.
Does anyone have an alternative MP3 player suggestion?
IThinkItsCute ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:32:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit, I drive an old car with crank windows and I use an old iPod. Does that make me old? Or just cheap? I can't be old yet, I'm only in my twenties!
fairysdad ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:50:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly, the term โpodcastโ actually pre-dates the iPod. When I get home and am off the mobile Iโll look up my source.
Edit: Looked up my source - something I wrote a good few years ago now - and turns out I'm wrong; /r/zably links the Wikipedia article that says that the term wasn't coined or indeed used by Apple for a while - I must either have misunderstood it when I first read up about it, or misremembered as the years after reading up about it passed!
zably ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:44:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a source for that? Wikipedia disagrees, and says it does come from "iPod Broadcast," with a few sources that seem to back it up.
As a bit of further evidence, Google trends also doesn't really show any results for podcast before February 2004, which matches the date of the cited article.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:37:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the claim was that it pre-dated the ipod, not that it was an Apple-created term.
explohd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
False, there were a few major digital music players released prior to the iPod. What set the iPod apart was the beautiful sleek and simplistic design; suddenly owning an MP3 player was not seen as being a geeky thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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explohd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The others were widespread as well. Perhaps the word you're looking for is "mainstream"?
doublebass120 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was about to reply to the parent, but you made the point I was going to make - "podcast" = "periodical broadcast", right?
bangonthedrums ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a later coinage to try to distance the term from Apple. But the iPod meaning came first
Edit: https://www.etymonline.com/word/podcast
bangonthedrums ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it comes from iPod. Any other meanings you may hear about are made up later to distance the term from Apple. https://www.etymonline.com/word/podcast
mad_science ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:58:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took me a minute to realize the "pod" referred to iPod, which no one usues anymore.
Come to think of it, iPods (mp3 players in general) are one of few pieces of mainstream technology that came out and went obsolete within my adult life.
KCarriere ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:48:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just bought a iPod nano from the Apple store last week. Fuck you and you iPod Touch, I just wanna play music on a device that syncs with my car.
desdenova- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guess I'm in there...I've got two iPods that I still use regularly (the older one is for on the water) and my car has roll-down windows. My car is a 2014 model though.
car_on_treadmill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:32:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't teenagers the people most likely to still be manually rolling up their windows?
drbudro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iPod + Broadcast = Podcast is interesting because 'broadcast' itself is super archaic. It comes from sowing seeds in farming by literally casting them broadly before being used figuratively in the 20s to mean a widely spread radio signal.
DjTotenkopf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:53:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's amazing! TIL: that thing you said
AlwaysSupport ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:00:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the same vein, I hear a lot of podcast hosts refer to themselves as being "on air" when they're recording. I suppose it's not a completely antiquated term since some people stream podcasts wirelessly, but I'm usually playing them from my phone's internal memory so there's no air involved.
browsingnewisweird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like an apple pie factory for whales.
Jess_than_three ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one's actually incredibly neat to me - it's been divorced from its original sense in just 13 years!
I guess to be fair that's about the same time scale as the floppy disk save icon. Still, the rate of change is impressive, and maybe a little scary.
Space-Robot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea when podcasts diverged from pods. It was probably like this year that I first realized they existed separately.
kryonik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a dedicated ipod in my car :(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing to live in a time when a particular consumer product can completely overturn a multi-billion dollar industry (i.e. the music industry), and then be practically obsolete within 10 years.
viperfan7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend with an old HDD iPod still
Things a beast
BeaglePuppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! I like my iPod.
That way I never have to worry about my phone battery if I want to listen to music.
Fr0gm4n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a second gen iPod Touch to listen to audio books in the car. New enough to have Bluetooth, old enough that no one will want to steal it.
Mythodiir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been into podcasts since I was young, and I've always thought the term "podcast" seems premature. I've never listened to a podcast on an iPod, but I guess the term was coined in the very early days of internet 2.0 when they couldn't see ahead that iPods would be just one of many ways to enjoy online audio shows.
SpCommander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
quickly glances at his video iPod from 2005
Y-yeah who still uses as iPod? Those things are outdated and buggy as can be, now you can use your phone or just stream music...
buyBitc0in ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope Apple never kills the iPod for this specific reason.
EmmetJD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm on an iPod touch right now. I hate using the phone but like easy to use MP3 players
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:14:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That term will be around forever and it is SO BAD
Pretty sure podcast listenership would be about 500% higher were it not for that term.
A person like my Dad will never, ever engage with something called a "podcast," but at the same time there are a lot he would love.
edit: Disclaimer that will perhaps diffuse all the people raging at me: I listen to like 10 podcasts. I like them.
hunteddwumpus ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:26:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds insipid, antiquated, and does not convey the fact that they are simply audio files you listen to at your convenience. It sound's like a radio show you can only get on your iPod. The term is, what, 10 years old, and already completely wrong. Podcasts have nothing to do with either "pods" or "casts."
hoodie92 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:05:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it is a cast. A broadcast.
The pod part... Who cares? It's just a name. You say it's 10 years old and completely wrong? Are you familiar with the English language? It's centuries old and it's full of stupid, useless, "wrong" words. But language doesn't work by what was originally right, it works by how people use it.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fascinating ๐ค
cheeset2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:05:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whats wrong with it sounding like a radio show on my iPod?
Sure, I can get podcasts on other devices now, but whats the big deal? They are still basically radio shows.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:25:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, see, that's the whole problem in a nutshell. With "podcast" being similar to "broadcast," it evokes what you said: "a radio show on my [device]."
It's so insidious because it's kind of accurate and yet nearly the opposite.
I'd argue the two main qualities of a radio show are (1) it's live (or at least ephemeral in nature) (2) it's local to its broadcast area
Whereas a podcast is (1) always pre-recorded, even when recorded before a live audience (2) available on the Internet
Basically opposites.
Now sure, you might argue that "Listening To [Something]" is really the main quality of the mediums. I'd say that's too general to be a defining characteristic. Is a bedtime story, church sermon, or a classroom lecture similar to a Radio Show? In a way yes, but let's be real: Radio is defined by its medium.
Sure, there are things like "This American Life" which are indistinguishable whether Radio or Pod - but I'd argue that's the exception. If you compare Morning "Zoo-Crew" Radio Shows that intersperse local traffic reports with classic rock with 'funny' banter to something like "The worst idea of all time" it becomes pretty clear that certain Radio Shows could never be podcasts and vice versa.
Which leads to the problem: There's a lot of people who like radio and would like podcasts, but think "Podcast? So basically radio for dumb millennials on their phones? No Thanks." They don't get that it's sort of like radio, but really a different thing that has its own unique qualities.
cheeset2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry but I'm just going to have to disagree. I don't see an issue with relating a new medium with a past one to provide those who have no idea what it may be an idea of what it is.
I think it does a perfectly fine job of describing it in terms of what people actually know, and when you become more familiar obviously you learn how they are different.
You're acting like ones a movie while another is a book, and that simply is just not the case. Podcasts share more with a radio show than any other previously existing media.
Do you just want to the name to be completely meaningless until people learn what they are?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you make a good point. I'm really just stretching here.
At the end of the say I don't like "podcast" just because it sounds silly. A lot of the podcasts I listen to (UYD, HDTGM, CTown) make fun of the term 'podcast' pretty often, that's where I got it I guess.
IDontKnowHowToPM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many radio shows are both pre-recorded and syndicated to a national (sometimes even international) audience. Such as literally any NPR show.
TroyAtWork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/iamverysmart
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:52:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The r/iamverysmart part would be if I said that it was a really banal comment and I can only imagine the level of intelligence a person would have to interpret it as an attempt to seem intellectual...
NeonAardvark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree - I've listened to a lot of them for years and still think the term is awful.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, thank you. I totally did not expect to get piled upon lol
TroyAtWork ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:29:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your dad sounds dumb
Mox_Fox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone's dad is dumb
WildPotential ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Podcast doesn't come from iPod. They both come from the same, separate acronym: "Personal On Demand". Which seems perfectly relevant still, even if no one knows that that's what it means.
bangonthedrums ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. That is a later coinage to try to distance the term from Apple. The original meaning came from iPod.
Edit: https://www.etymonline.com/word/podcast
WildPotential ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. TIL. That'll teach me not to dash off a quick reply when I'm working and don't have time to look something up!
[deleted] ยท 2089 points ยท Posted at 15:20:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-Side is still used when talking about CD singles.
E: And yes as everybody is saying, this came from records where the main single track went on the a-side, and the extra ones (typically that didn't make the album) on the b-sidw. That was my point really, that it no longer really makes sense when talking about CDs, should have probably been clearer.
straydog1980 ยท 1042 points ยท Posted at 15:48:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I yeah but what even are CD singles anymore
[deleted] ยท 239 points ยท Posted at 15:50:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not released new, but my point is that we still refer to B-Sides even if they were released on CD.
curtisthayer ยท 553 points ยท Posted at 16:01:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What's a CD?" girl from the Apple commercial
irishdude1212 ยท 791 points ยท Posted at 16:12:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking hate that commercial. Like apple is so arrogant they think that computers won't exist because of the iPad
noydbshield ยท 382 points ยท Posted at 17:25:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. Apples fine, whatever. Use the ecosystem you prefer. But that โwhatโs a computerโ bullshit doesnโt do anyone any good.
karethon ยท 615 points ยท Posted at 18:12:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"A computer is what you have to plug your iPhone/iPad into when the iOS update fails and the device goes into Recovery Mode." -someone that doesn't work for Apple
noydbshield ยท 159 points ยท Posted at 18:25:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh, you mean the itunes?"
[deleted] ยท 215 points ยท Posted at 18:43:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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KingMaharg ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:50:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took me three tries to see that the screaming was external not internal...
FaxCelestis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:43:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apple: External Screaming, But Internalized Hatred. It's Not The Future, It's The iFuture.
ajshell1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going by their recent naming schemes (Apple TV, Apple Watch) , it's probably the "Apple Future" instead of iFuture.
FaxCelestis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True.
Siphyre ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:38:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than them downloading files to their monitor...
SEX_LIES_AUDIOTAPE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The screaming used to be internal but they realised they could sell you a dongle if they off-boarded it.
sadmanwithabox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:39:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, the hard drive. iTunes is an app, you should take a class
/S
noydbshield ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh God. I think I just had an aneurysm. I... I'm dying. Are you happy? Your fucking stupidity has killed me. Now my goddamn cat is homeless. I'm no longer alive. I'm dead.
Gold star if you can tell me what that's from, btw.
sadmanwithabox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll be honest, I have no idea what it's from. But I did some googling, and found This. Is that it? Or is it from something else?
Either way, thank you for helping me find the video I found, it had me laughing my ass off!
noydbshield ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One gold star for you.
That would be the video
FlashbackJon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It has the bigger geebees.
The_Quibbler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw it on the google.
NexusOne99 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:12:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, "A computer is the thing Apple makes you buy if you want to make software for iPads and iPhones."
GlassMeccaNow ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:49:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, you have to buy a "Mac" to do that.
Macs are cosmetically similar to computers and share much functionality, but you have to pay for permission to program them, which is like being able to sound out the Taco Bell menu but unable to express your thoughts in complete sentences.
ThatsRightWeBad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:16:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, "Dongles are things that make those iPads and iPhones compatible with the computer."
Pigspeakers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:05:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then it inexplicably deletes all of your files
GrandmaChicago ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
every time I see the "word" iPad...
It makes me think Steve Jobs went into the Feminine Hygiene business before he bit the dust.
Torvaun ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:35:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is your child a complete moron? Buy an iPad, it's the best she can manage.
_UnderscoreMonty_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm pretty sure that actress who said that even knows wtf a computer is.
oilpit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:04:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that commercial is actually the most rage inducing ad I've ever seen, at least in recent memory.
Fuck off, apple.
GlassMeccaNow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"They're devices used to make those shitty apps tablet users pay too much for."
thtgyovrthr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:53:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...smartphones, tablets, notebooks, watches, and glasses. they compute. you give them input, they produce output. they're self-contained pieces of technology that have more power in them than the computers on which we typed our essays in the late 90s if we were so fortunate.
it's not bullshit.
noydbshield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make to me here. I know they're all computers. That's why the commercial irritates me. Other people ought to understand that too.
crawfin ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 17:26:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My roommate and I lost our collective shits the first time we saw it. The thought that a kid that age would say that either means she's woefully ignorant or just a huge prick.
Not to mention, APPLE SELLS COMPUTERS. It's not like iPads are their only product. They are literally advertising against themselves and don't care because people will buy it anyway.
94358132568746582 ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 18:43:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't sell computers. They sell an exclusive dongle experience.
--__--__---__--___-- ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:57:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't sell computers, they sell a shiny apple logo
lapotronic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:21:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, no, that's next year's innovation!
GlassMeccaNow ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:53:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FaxCelestis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:44:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
man i thought we talked about this
what happens in vegas stays in vegas
kevincrazykid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so does porn hub
Pickselated ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:58:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also like the iPad is a computer same as all their other products
Dick_Lazer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:06:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They used to be a computer company that also sold some products, now they're a product company that also sells some computers. I wouldn't be surprised if they totally phase out the computer division in the next 5-10 years.
avickthur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If those iPads in 5-10 years can be as reliable and do everything my MacBook Pro can do, then I won't really care. I like MacOS too much to switch to Windows
CestMoiIci ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:44:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This right here too...
Like Mac and Windows are the only options.
Seriously, if you are competent with and used to OSX, you could totally install any linux distro you want to name, on any hardware you want really, and be comfortable from a CLI perspective, the rest is all justgraphical tools you can install at any time
quantum_monster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about DirectX?
CestMoiIci ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:29:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't really work on OSX either.
There are sort-of ways to use it on Linux, like Wine or CrossOver
TheOneTrueTrench ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:35:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, iPads ARE FUCKING GOD DAMN COMPUTERS, APPLE, STOP FUCKING SHITTING AND PISSING ALL OVER LANGUAGE WHILE YOU RAPE WHAT'S LEFT OF TECHNOLOGICAL COMPETENCY.
robdouth ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:44:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate how she's able to do so much on the iPad but is so stupid she doesn't know what a computer is. iPad's aren't replacing my dual screen monitor computer at my office job.
I'm glad to find a kindred spirit because that commercial annoys the hell out of me. Probably way more than it should.
--__--__---__--___-- ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, nobody that does any kind of real work is using Apple computers
Owyn_Merrilin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:18:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's plenty of real work being done on apple computers. Just not much on iPads. Macs are still heavily used in things like video and audio editing, and they're actually a great platform to program on if you do multiplatform software; they work with OSX and iOS basically by default, it's a Unix platform so it's halfway to being compatible with Linux, and you can easily run Windows, Linux, and even Android in a VM. You can dual boot at least the first two, for that matter.
You can also do most of this on non-Apple computers, except for the apple compatibility part, because Apple are a bunch of anti-competitive assholes. The unix environment is nice, though; Windows has some official support now, but it's hacky and you're really better off with actual Linux or OSX if you need Unix support.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, programmers seem to be a roughly 50-50 split between Linux and Macs.
GlassMeccaNow ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fuck you on
--__--__---__--___-- ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eat shit
blackcat122 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 17:11:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't she say "what's a computer?" Or is that yet another different, arrogant commercial?
irishdude1212 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:57:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope your thinking of the right one
InjuredSmurf ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:04:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never seen this. Someone link me please??
oilpit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:21:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just a heads up, you should not watch this ad, it is infuriating cancer, don't say I didn't warn you
https://youtu.be/sQB2NjhJHvY
InjuredSmurf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, nope. Nuhuh. Fuck this noise. I don't want to live on this planet anymore
this_is_balls ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:51:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She damn well knows what a computer is. She's just being a little shit.
ATLjoe93 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:39:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her name is fucking Scout?
Like seriously?
commiecomrade ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 16:54:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh your name is from that book, 'To Kill a Mockingbird,' then?"
"What's a book?"
TheMSensation ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:38:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the Kindle advert.
ShoulderNines ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:10:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SPY!
theartificialkid ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:12:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And she lives in a brownstone and goes to the deli and dresses hip and has a gender neutral style (not saying there's anything wrong with being gender neutral, just that this is definitely part of the carefully tuned, cynical image-crafting of the advertisers)
irishdude1212 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:45:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you serious? i didn't even know that. I hate it even more didn't think it was possible
ATLjoe93 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:19:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Listen to the beginning when she's leaving the house. Her mom says it.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:05:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This especially pisses me off because an iPad is a computer!
nx6 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL no. An iPad is not a computer. That's exactly what Apple/Microsoft wants people to think, so they will be more accepting to the tablification of computer interfaces and enclosing people in ecosystems of "approved apps" and not having control of their own machine.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer
"A computer is a device that can be instructed to carry out arbitrary sequences of arithmetic or logical operations automatically. The ability of computers to follow generalized sets of operations, called programs, enables them to perform an extremely wide range of tasks."
An iPad is a computer by definition. It carries out arithmetic and logical operations automatically to follow instructions written by programmers. The methodology of these instructions making it to the computer is irrelevant to its state as a computer.
DaLyricalMiracleWhip ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:12:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially since Apple still MAKES FUCKING COMPUTERS
jseego ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:26:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I loved that commercial, right up until that line.
Um, my kids are growing up with screens, and they both know, more than most adults do, that a smartphones and tablets are actually types of computers.
BearWobez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? That kid is such a brat
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That kid is fine. Would love to have that kid in my neighborhood, just a cool techy kid biking around and taking pictures of bugs, doing homework in the backyard....
The brat is the advertising creative director behind the commercial.
BearWobez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's what I meant. The what's a computer? Line is dripping with bratty sarcasm that I wouldn't expect from any other part of the ad
jseego ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It bothers me every time.
Yet, here we are talking about it.
So I'm not sure it's ineffective, as an ad.
I think it would have been better if the neighbor had said "doing some work on your computer" or whatever, and the kid just gave her a knowing smile.
I guess that's why I don't work in advertising tho. ;)
LeeColi16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:16 on January 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
As a teenager, Iโm afraid to say that quite a lot of people from my generation donโt consider tablets and smartphones to be computers.
In my Year 11 IT class, most of the other students have barely figured out that a mouse is an input, a printer is an output, and a touchscreen is both.
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PATRIOTSRADIOSIGNALS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:21:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
holds up CD "What computers?"
willflameboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she really is that dumb.
Elfish-Phantom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck them for that commercial. They're trying to make it happen like good Gretchen was trying to make fetch happen.
Tostecles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lemme load up 8GB of VRAM worth of Skyrim mods on my iPad real quick
wholeyfrajole ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thank god - thought it was only me! I'm always yelling The damn thing they make you use at school, you ignorant little twatwaffle!
Mr_Xing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think calling it arrogance is a little far-fetched...
Itโs to demonstrate that the overall relevance for your traditional desktop computer has somewhat diminished in the light of the smartphone and tablet market.
Itโs a little distasteful, but I donโt think itโs arrogance that drove them to make the commercial.
AliveByLovesGlory ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And she doesn't even wait for or expect a fucking answer. It did not sound like a rhetorical question but it is presented as one. What the fuck.
CynCity323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i haven't had a computer with an optical drive in like 6 years
nx6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but you still recognize a CD-ROM when people mention it. It's completely stupid to say "what's a computer?" at a time when PCs still outnumber tablet devices (all tablets, not just iPads). Hardly anyone uses floppy disks, but most people still recognize the term.
crystalistwo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's an iPad?
Di0nysus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, my PC has an optical drive but I haven't used it in years. Even when I get physical copies of PC games you can still just download them with the code that comes in the box instead of using the discs. I agree though I hate Apple commercials lol.
QCMBRman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iPads are computers. Just in a different shaped box
MintyTruffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steve Jobs dying was a mistake /s.
UltraChilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well, it's partly true as long as Apple is concerned, because they focused too much on the iPad and the iPhone they don't seem to be able to make decent computers anymore...
(source: been working on a mac for 5 years, was very pleased, wanted to buy a new one last year, noped my way out when I saw the specs and limitations of what they build nowadays)
SLUnatic85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to like the commercial, and it makes me feel old too, but I don't think it's in the wrong. It is a valid point that people are not using CDs. It's damn near the equivalent of VHS tapes which is the conversation that started this entire thread. I know they still sell them in stores, but I am not sure they would be missed if they didn't And apple is one company that absolutely want's this to be the case.
And though I swear I will never not have a desktop. Most people really don't anymore (that I know).
As an aside, I dislike most things Apple as well :)
irishdude1212 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just that there is no way the iPad is going to replace computers so much that you don't know what a computer is
SLUnatic85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well your quoting the marketing. An iPad may not replace a computer.
But the trend most certainly (like over 20 years) is from point A to point B. Point A being a screen attached to a mouse, keyboard, speakers and computer and hard/disk drives (tower) with a specific table or desk... or similar. We used to think of all this when you heard computer or PC. Point B is pretty much just a screen. The screen has the computer/drives inside of it and effectively eliminates the mouse and keyboard and any other buttons really, with a touchscreen, and the need for attached speakers or other peripherals vanishes. You can carry the thing around is so tablet like.
You can argue for laptops, but is it really crazy to call them an intermediate step?
And in Apple's defense, though I've never owned a thing they make since the IIgs, they were the first mainstream all-in-one computers (remember all those cool colors?). They were not first in laptops but became a staple with the macbook. They were certainly the driving force behind commercially eliminating buttons (even on that dumb-ass mouse), keys, popularizing touchscreens, tablets, smartphones... to that commercial, the iPod was HUGE in the demise of physical CDs.
Meh... I am going to stop. The work days over, and I can't believe I am making Apple sound good. But I honestly can see the connection. It is sort of their cup of tea or marketing platform and has been for ~40 years.
FaxCelestis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:42:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I can't remember the last laptop I owned that had an optical drive. Maybe a decade ago?
Worse, I can't remember the last time I used a computer's optical drive at all. Drivers? Just download them. Software? Cloud downloads. Games? Steam. Play a movie? Why when my TV runs Amazon Prime, Vudu, Hulu, Netflix, and has an attached blu-ray player?
liquilife ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:03:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that girl is WAY the fuck too addicted to her iPad. Like, get a life. And it's okay and even preferable to make your stupid bug city map on actual paper and coloring material.
lawre179 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:08:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The commercial in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQB2NjhJHvY
edgartargarien ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:35:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"comments are disabled for this video" I wonder why
lawre179 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the exact same thing. I hadn't seen the commercial before /u/curtisthayer mentioned it, but it seriously made my blood boil.
RKRagan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:11:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worse for me was that this kid was using an iPad Pro. WTF. That is way too expensive for some kid to be carrying all across town just so she can draw something on a picture of a cast with a stylus.
silverglyph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but this is "the future" where kids don't know what computers are anymore. The iPad Pro could be cheaper in that future
TheBigAndy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was a girl?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think Apple did exactly what they wanted. Ton of people I know know this commercial... even if they hate it lol
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least this one is WAY more plausible.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen the Apple commercial where the little boy is laying in the grass looking at his iPad and the neighbor lady asks him what is he doing on his computer. The boy says, "What's a computer?" Duh.
yahthosegirls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B sides refer to cassette tapes!!!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they can also, but it originated with vinyl.
yahthosegirls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
D'oh! You're right!
ukiyoe ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Japan, the land of the future, still sells a ton of CDs, including singles. Idols and boy bands top the charts.
Tired8281 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They allow sales tactics that would be illegal here. Boy bands market to teenage girls that if they buy a certain threshold number of a specific CD single that day, then they release another one or have a concert on TV or release a new promo photo. People buy the singles 10 at a time to be sure they'll 'win'.
Zarmazarma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's much less so teenage girls, and much more so adults with jobs. Kids don't have money. Adults have money, and are still willing to spend thousands of dollars on things like phone games and incentivized merchandise.
Also, what part of that is illegal? The marketing to children part or something to do with having sales bonuses attached to merchandise?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:57:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Promo items for albums. They still get made, I still buy them. You get some extra music to the album and they are rare and will raise in value.
BoodGurger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Singles, EPs and LPs are still common terms for distributing music today.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the 90's they still sold singles on CD. A full size disc capable of holding an entire album but only had the hit and a B-side or two
Purplociraptor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you go to the bank and open a certificate of deposit
FriendlyCraig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can still get CDs of music in the EDM world, at least. DJs prefer to have a high fidelity copy of a song for performance and production, and most home burners and compression just don't cut it.
Outside of that though? I can't think of any other CDs.
SLUnatic85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
on spotify...
I'd say CDs aren't even really a thing anymore. I know they are in stores, but I enjoy vinyl far more than CDs if I need something for the art or hard copy or feel.
FullmentalFiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those iTunes tracks you buy individually because you hate the rest of the music on the album.
ryanson209 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only time I even saw a single released on a CD was like, 2010. Pretty sure it was California Gurls by Katy Perry.
It blew me away because... what? This exists? In a Wal-Mart? Now? I was a 90's kid, I didn't expect to see anything like that in my lifetime.
Germanpunkynerd ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 16:09:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many people here don't know what a B-side is! I have to explain it nearly every time I mention it.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:11:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? I have had to explain it to one or two friends but I thought that said more about them than it did about people in general...
Germanpunkynerd ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:35:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they are not a fan of one special band, they usually don't know it. If I talk to fans of my favourite band, they know what it is, as the b-sides of the band are great. But especially people who his listen to the radio or to nospecial band don't know it
skaterrj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen lyrics online for Blue Oyster Cult's Burning For You that say, "Time to play besides," which doesn't make sense. The first time I read it, it took me a minute to realize the line was, "Time to play B-sides." It makes a LOT more sense that way!
Baconchicken42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it seems like a fairly self-explanatory concept
metalshadow ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:01:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, CDs nowadays never need to be flipped over, and plenty of laptops don't even have cd drives in them anymore. If the concept of flipping the cd doesn't exist then it's harder to make the connection to a b side
mahasattva ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just to add a fun anecdote, in the early 2000's I had a few CD albums that utilized double sided CDs that needed to be flipped over. These were longer albums that opted for a single double sided CD instead of having two separate CDs to accommodate its length.
Oh man, this just reminded me of having to make due with my cheap Diskman that only had a 10 second skip protection while riding in a school bus with no noticeable shock absorbers. On bumpy roads, I was listening to songs in 5 second fragments.
jerdub1993 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It came from vinyls right? Those small (6"?) ones? Those were before my time but I definitely remember having to flip cassette tapes over to side B to hear the end of Adventures in Odyssey.
GrandmaChicago ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
45's. played at 45 rpm, rather than the 33 1/3 rpm albums.
Oshunlove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And when someone said the same thing over and over, we used to say he sounded like a broken record, because a scratch in a record would cause that part to repeat. I guess people don't say it anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Germanpunkynerd ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:34:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't make me mad, it's just a fact that I have to explain it whenever I mention it (to someone who's not fan of a special band, those often know what it is). I like sharing this bit of information and don't care that many people don't know
yusbarrett ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:52:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or calling albums LP and short albums EP.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:54:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True. I mean the terms still make sense with CDs, but EP espeically is still used commonly.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:30:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really pisses me off when a local band releases a 4 song CD that comes to around 15-20 minutes and calls it their "album"
Get fucked guys, it's either an EP or a single.
RedKibble ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:34:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or calling them albums at all, from back when you literally had an album with multiple records in it.
ironwolf56 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:38:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me, in the news industry we still call "random extra footage for the story" B-Roll. There's no long "rolls" of film and everything is on the same device not an A or B.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So is this just a term that is actually used amongst people in the news industry? I have never heard that before!
ironwolf56 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:42:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's most commonly news, but any sort of filming job uses it. A related term is "stock footage." Stock footage is basically a collection of B-Roll people can use, but for news you generally get your own because you want things local and related to the story.
roomandcoke ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:51:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty common in all video production. You hear it a good amount on YouTube now.
ironwolf56 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another good one is "cut" as in cut (stop rolling... hey rolling too since there's no film canister spinning around) or jump cut or any of that. That comes from the days where film editing wasn't "load the editing software" but more "get the scissors and some tape."
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:11:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Time to play B-Sides!"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a reference to something?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:22:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uh 'Burnin for you' by the Blue Oyster Cult.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh OK I don't feel bad for not recognising it then lol
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you sort of should, because its a really badass song.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:28:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there are many 'badass' songs, and so I will feel alright about having never heard of the ones by obscure bands...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
here is the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ55YvPhN3o
They are far from obscure.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relatively obscure, certainly where I am... I have certainly never heard of them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you live?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
England. Most of my friends are into various types of hard rock/heavy metal, never heard them mentioned, and I like to think I would have heard of most major bands anyway.
Neckbeardlol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shows your age then and there is nothing wrong with that. Blue รyster Cult are far from obscure and were decently popular. Their hayday was in the 70's. You will probably be more familiar with Don't Fear the Reaper
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well i guess they are one of those that aren't as famous now as they used to be. Cos I have heard of a lot of bands from that era I have heard of.
But yeah that song is familiar, although I don't know where I have heard it.
Neckbeardlol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was used in several games and movies and is probably the one song most people will know from them or rather know of but not know the band. But I guess you are right saying "obscure" despite them not truly being obscure. But they have had a lot of influence on today's metal and rock.
Though that is kind of the joy of this kind of thread. There are things that are only ~15 years that have had their meanings and uses falling into obscurity purely due to time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well quite, probably more well known within their genre, which I am not a massive fan of. Still, am curious to ask my friends who do like that style of music if they know them.
quedfoot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obscure, Blue Oyster Cult!? My heavens.
BLACKMACH1NE ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:33:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-Sides are usually included as a bonus to CD singles. Regular CDs are all A-sides. B-sides basically now mean "Songs that didnt make the cut". But they still use them to push Singles sales. A-B Sides refer to 2 different sides of a Record or Cassette. A-side songs where all of the good songs and B-side was the lesser liked side or less marketable side. This is because it sucked to fast forward or flip media back in the day.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:38:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they are still effectively the same thing as from my experience record b-sides also tended to be songs that didn't make the cut. Like you say they were physically on the b-side, but I think they still were seen as bonuses, an extra track for added interest, and I guess to make use of the b-side.
Of course another major difference is now maxi singles are quite common because previously you would need a 12'' to hold multiple b-sides I think.
QQQARL666 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:04:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-Side was used for CDs and tapes, but originated with vinyls: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-side_and_B-side
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's what I mean, it made snese with records because it referred to tracks of side b, but now with CDs the term doesn't actually make sense any more.
wootlesthegoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:00:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some cds are double sided. Very few but some
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well quite, I have never had or known of any... In fact, why would they be? Unless for a long album, in which case they wouldn't even have any b-sides on them.
wootlesthegoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a cd single by bsyd3 (a very bad local band from the early 2000s) where they specifically did it for marketing purposes. Given their current outrageous success you can imagine how that turned out.
You're right. There is no reason to do it for anything digital.
gcam_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bon Jovi's slippery when wet remaster is double sided.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK, is that to fit extra tracks on.
But anyway presumably that is an LP anyway, meaning you wouldn't term any of the tracks b-sides.
Clayh5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did people even really do B-sides that much after CDs came around? I know U2 did their CD singles in the 90s as like one or two new songs and then like 3-5 remixes of the main song, but they're the only artist from that era I really listen to. Singles since I've been around (mostly iPod/streaming era) have been mostly just single songs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With digital music, they aren't really a thing, but I am pretty sure the majority of CD singles still have b-sides on, so still a bit of a while ago, pre digital music.
aStarving0rphan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carly Rae Jepsen released some B-sides for her album Emotion under the title, Emotion Side B, about a year after the album came out. This was a year ago, most recent thing I know of that references B Sides
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of bands did tbh, usually bands would record 15-20ish songs for their album and put the best ones on the album and threw the rest on singles.
Every now and again you'd get bands that recorded so many good songs during sessions that people made alternative tracklists for their albums or released compilation albums of B-sides. Hell, Muse even released TWO b-sides albums (Hullabaloo and Random 1-8) and still didn't include every good track.
aew3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:37:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people seem to refer to any rarities as B-sides now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good point! I have noticed it lately when referring to tracks for a potential bonus disc, which I guess in days gone by would have ended up as b-sides.
midnitewarrior ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:50:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just flip the CD over and listen to the other side.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You will probably break either the CD player of the CD... Not sure which, don't wanna find out.
CLearyMcCarthy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With the return of vinyl....
willflameboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EP (extended play) is a good one. People still use that to mean 'mini album'. We still call albums records too. Audio formats were so romanticised once upon a time. And people on TV still call CCTV footage 'the tapes'.
NuderWorldOrder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder why double-sided CDs don't (or barely) exist. Double-sided DVDs are a thing, but it never really caught on for CDs.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the time it isn't really needed I guess. After all, most of the time you buy a CD it fits on one side quite nicely. Plus, I guess one sided ones have more info on the front. Never seen a double.sided DVD before.
thephantom1492 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's even more funny when b-side is used on digital download... It do not even have a single side!
TXDRMST ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still buy plenty of vinyl singles though. I've never met anyone who owns CD singles.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I own loads
BijelaSvejtlost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vinyls are making a comeback, so the term B-side isn't teeeechnically as antiquated/appropriated.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but it survived the coming of the CDs tbf. Like OK maybe not totally obsolete, but it is still used with CD singles, where it makes no sense.
lmpaler86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-sides on tapes were dope though.
ezd73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CDs? Can you still buy those things?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:41:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Och! I have 167!
And anyway, my point really was that they were still used to refer to extra tracks on CD singles, even if obviously they aren't that common now...
gcam_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't go any shops at all? (Walmart, Target)
SassyMoron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "cut" is used by djs to refer to a version of a song, referencing tracks that were "cut" in vinyl (actually, pressed, but cut used to kinda make sense when it was a physical medium). For instance, you call a high dynamic, intense remix a "power cut" - that term used to literally refer to the first track on the B side of a rock album, in the days of "album-oriented rock" radio. The first track on side A is the single, but the first track on side B is the one that the band thinks is the coolest/wants the DJ to notice.
TheScoutPro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, if you're Gorillaz, you release an album called g-sides and just say "fuck names".
neandersthall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you think about it record and album are still used whether it is a CD, tape, digital album, etc. see album.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is record still commonly used? Ik it is still used by older artists tbf, but never heard about a 'Taylor Swift record'.
Gonzostewie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-side being used for CDs when you only listened to one side of the actual disc. A record or a tape had a B-side. CDs, not so much.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's exactly what I mean. I had forgotten about cassettes, but yeah I do often have to explain to people where the term b-side actually comes from.
JamesWjRose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EEENK! Wrong. CD Single had additional tracks, 45s and 12" "Singles" had b-side, the actual reverse side of the "hit" single side. CDs were, generally, only printed on one side.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, that's exactly the point. They are still called b-sides even though they are only printed on one side.
JamesWjRose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah, I get your point now. Thanks for the clarification
oaklander42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-sides are also the community hacker conferences thrown alongside every major security conference...
i_spill_things ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Records. Vinyl.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that is the origin of the term, and my point is that it doesn't actually make sense with CD singles, but it is used regardless.
i_spill_things ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh right. Duh.
turbo_dude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does that other abbreviation on there mean? B/c or b/w...something like that
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't think of any abbreviations like that tbh...
turbo_dude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was b/w http://www.moremusic.co.uk/links/uk_abbr.htm
turbo_dude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basically meaning the B side
FullmentalFiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but vinyl sales have been way up recently, so maybe it's going to be relevant once more?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, certainly has stayed relevant, but all the same it doesn't make sense when referring to a CD single if you see what I mean. Like hanging up the phone still is relevant to some phones, but it is still a weird one when using a mobile.
FullmentalFiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True I suppose.
notsolongdong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't owned or touched a CD in almost 8 years
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, maybe I am living in the past lol.
notsolongdong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might be, I'm not THAT young either... I'm a bit over 30 and that's like 90 in Reddit years
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 18... :/
notsolongdong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol wtf are you doin w CDs at 18?! Man you were born in 1999 when I got my first mp3 player lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I just like collecting them.
Tuaam_Is_Back ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC alot of B - sides were remixes / instrumental pieces.
Some singles had a B side which was a remixed version of the A side. Other B sides were instrumental pieces (See, TFF)
karen41065 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the more common term where Iโm from for the same thing (and equally fits this thread) is the flip-side.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I've never actually heard that before! Where are you from, out of curiosity?
karen41065 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upstate New York
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair play, never heard it used in North West England
lachlanhunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some CDs and DVDs did have two sides. I have a Friends box set and every disc was double sided. I also used to have some double sided CD-RW discs.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but only when there is too much to fit on one disc, surely, so I doubt any actual b-sides are on a reverse side.
VVillyD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything about this comment has been obsolete for almost 2 decades.
carminesscienceoven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B side orginally refers to records. There was an A side and B side.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely my point, but with CDs it doesn't actually seem very logical.
GershBinglander ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:59:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-side comes from the days of records. You would have the main song on the A-side other songs on the B-side.
wheregoodideasgotodi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:08:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They make double sided CDs, I'm sure if someone really wanted to this could be a thing again
DennisNedrey ยท 4525 points ยท Posted at 17:04:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Threshold.
Thresh is the non edible parts of grains and was often used to cover flooring back in ye olden times. There would be a plank of wood at the bottom of the door to hold in the thresh so it wouldn't fly outside every time you opened the door.
Also the tradition of carrying the bride over the threshold was because their dress would get caught on the plank.
Edit: apparently I am wrong. Please disregard this comment.
Martbell ยท 830 points ยท Posted at 18:40:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was unlucky for the bride to trip over the threshold so the groom would carry her over just to be sure she didn't stumble.
loafers_glory ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 21:13:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That seems more likely to result in a stumble
5redrb ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:47:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tripping over anything is unlucky.
TheRarestPepe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:14:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you hit your head and die, well don't even bother trying anything with that kind of luck!
THE_REAL_SLIM_SHADY3 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 20:24:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also relevant: when the Trojans were bringing in the Trojan Horse, it stopped at the threshold of the Trojan gates three times, symbolizing bad luck.
Jeeterhawk007 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:56:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bonus effect: If he stumbles over the threshold today, he could wind up on America's Funniest Home Videos with a chance to win $10,000 dollars.
Balmunder ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:32:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's interesting, I had always heard it as it was bad luck to cross a threshold with your left foot. A woman (being in such a state of emotional stupor after her big day) would be more prone to making such a mistake. So, the mature, levelheaded man would pick her up and carry her across, ensuring a fortunate household and marriage.
Undrallio ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:19:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that's an awful story. I'd never heard that before. Ick.
Rapier_and_Pwnard ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:54:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It reads like exaggerated chauvinism for comedic effect. I wouldn't hold it against him (or her)
gtalley10 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:22:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check out women's marriage guides from the 50's. Chauvinistic ideas like that aren't that exaggerated from what was thought of as normal in the past.
https://www.littlethings.com/1950s-good-housewife-guide/
Tutush ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:18:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Starts off innocently enough. By the end it's... quite disturbing. Especially because if you think about it, it's exactly what you'd expect from that time.
Martbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:37 on December 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw this one on Snopes. It was fabricated by modern writers.
FencingFemmeFatale ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eww.
vacuousaptitude ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:52:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eww
WattP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this seems more a problem than a solution
ozaku7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is where people put some magical meaning behind something so logical.
NuderWorldOrder ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 19:17:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is almost certainly not correct.
So the words are probably related, but not that way. It sounds more like it meant "separate" or something of the sort. Also thresh isn't a noun, the inedible parts are called chaff.
AnonymousFerret ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:35:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this.
The first time I saw 'thresh' used as a noun was in an e-mail chain letter filled with false "fun facts" about the middle ages.
Here's a debunk of the etymology for anyone interested: https://www.thoughtco.com/floors-in-medieval-times-1788705
ParlorSoldier ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:01:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The two meanings for "thresh" being discussed (the act of separating parts of grain, or to โstamp the feet noisilyโ) are not unrelated.
"Threshing" (also called "thrashing") is the act of loosening the grain from its husk (the chaff). One common method of threshing grain was by stomping and scraping it with your feet along the floor (another method was to use a tool called a flail - interesting that in their modern usage, "thrashing" and "flailing" are relatively synonymous).
A "threshold" does refer to a raised boundary at a door intended to keep grain from being blown outside, but it wasn't named because people put "threshes" on the floors of their homes.
Threshing was done either on a stone or earth floor outdoors, or in an area of a barn referred to as a "threshing floor" or simply a "thresh."
Why did you need a raised barrier to keep the grain from blowing outside? Because the next step after threshing is "winnowing," the act of actually separating the "wheat from the chaff." Most traditional methods of winnowing use wind in one way or another to blow away the lighter chaff while leaving behind the heavier grain. Barns are traditionally built with two large sets of doors or openings on opposite walls, which makes it easy to move animals and equipment, and is also a great way to create a draft.
You'd thresh your grain in the barn, then open the barn doors to create a breeze to do your winnowing. But you still have grain all over the floor, so you're going to need some kind of barrier to hold the grain in the thresh while the wind blows through. Some kind of thresh...hold.
felesroo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:03:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although the English, to the disgust of much of the rest of the world, did cover their floors with woven mats of either reeds or thresh. These would invariably become infested with vermin and parasites, especially through the winter when such creatures would seek warmth.
And to this day, the English still have carpeting in their kitchens and bathrooms. Sigh.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:37:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:52:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gross.
kayelles ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:41:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Outdated national stereotypes, sigh.
No one whose house I have been into in my life have had a carpeted bathroom or kitchen.
(I am English, have visited many English houses)
felesroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we were looking at flats in London, we ran into a couple. One of our friends up in the West Midlands had carpet in both kitchen and bathroom. Most don't have them anymore, no, but they are still out there.
drumstyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carpet in the bathroom? What? I mean, those small mats that get washed weekly are alright, but just like...carpeted?
felesroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:35:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Wall-to-wall carpeting.
As others have pointed out, this is far less popular now than it was in the post-War years, but carpeting the bathrooms and kitchens is definitely something the British used to do.
Bearmodulate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quite literally never seen or been in any house where this is the case here.
happy2harris ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:05:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen many houses in England with carpeted bathrooms. Tbh, I dont see whatโs wrong with that, and it keeps the feet warm. Iโve never seen a carpeted kitchen though.
felesroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still exist. Seen them myself. But they are more uncommon now, thank god.
Kazu_the_Kazoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In their bathrooms?? Wtf??
zandyman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I'm not the first pedant. Someone else can take the hit!
(I've argued about the threshold at least twice on reddit.)
MyFirstOtherAccount ยท 656 points ยท Posted at 18:42:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naw dude. Thresh is the guy who's got Lucian's wife's soul.
v_Mystiic ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:49:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rip Senna
walkingcarpet23 ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 19:33:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Threshold is that 1.5 second stun that occurs when he lands his Q
Balmarog ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:32:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still think they shoulda called his ult "The Thresh Hold."
BrodieforPresident ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:17:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shitty TIL?
jaime-the-lion ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:26:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Safe under tower? Not anymore.
Joaoseinha ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:36:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You took the better half of me Thresh, what you left is a dangerous enemy.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:38:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought he was a big black guy in the hunger games?
The_OtherHalf ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:08:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even though I play that game too goddamn much my mind went to Hunger Games first. Panem would never have been liberated if it weren't for his repatriation of Rue. :(
Jazco76 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:54:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And his district harvested grain.
limabone ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:01:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought he was a guy who was really good at Quake
SirBuckeye ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:42:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the only Thresh that I know. But then again, I'm old enough that I also played in the tournament when Thresh won John Carmack's Ferrari.
jcbQL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So good he's in the eSports hall of fame.
vancew28 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:37:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found the league player!!!
Xellith ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:41:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought Thresh was that black kid on hunger games that died a peasants death.
MrGoatOnABoat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:02:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP Senna
snappyj ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:51:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he pay the troll toll?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To get to that boys hole?
bonzaibooty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know what fandom youโre referencing, and at this point Iโm too afraid to ask.
nihlius ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:14:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
League of legends. Thresh is a character who's lore includes that he took another characters wife's soul and doomed it to eternity inside his lantern
bonzaibooty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
skelebone ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:41:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. https://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.asp
Relevant part:
"As stated above, the reeds used on floors were typically changed daily. Besides, who ever heard of calling reeds, rushes, or sheaves of grass โthreshesโ? Oneย threshesย plants to separate stalk from seed, but no part of the plant is called the โthresh.โ
The โthreshโ part ofย thresholdย apparently comes from a prehistoric source that denoted โmaking noiseโ and is related to the Old Church Slavonikย tresku, meaning โcrash.โ By the time it reached Germanic (thresk-), it was probably being used for โstamp the feet noisilyโ (something thatโs a good idea to do in a doorway if youโre wearing muddy boots)."
Also one about brides and thresholds: https://www.snopes.com/weddings/customs/threshold.asp
SUPERSTITION:ย ย The lore and symbolism surrounding the custom of carrying the bride across the threshold.
ORIGINS:ย ย Even the most unsuperstitious and least tradition-bound will stoop to observing the custom of having the groom carry his bride over the threshold.
Nowadays, that threshold has come to mean the doorway into their hotel room, but those who are going to an actual house should play it safe and treat both the main door and the door to the bedroom as important thresholds to hoist the new Mrs. over.
This tradition comes down to us from Roman times when observing it indicated that a bride sacrificed her virginity with appropriate reluctance in that she had to be carried to her deflowering lest she get away if set down. These days, most people just see the practice as a general luck-bringer, one possibly linked to any number of cautions against tripping over a threshold. By carrying the bride over this barrier, she at least is spared the possibility of tripping and thus triggering this particular brand of ill luck.
Merlord ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:45:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds made up
just_a_duderino ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:01:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're all made up.
MsLotusLane ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:39:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to this source, that etymology is incorrect:
"It is true that floors of the period were sometimes covered with a layer of rushes or reeds (known as โthreshโ in the 17th century โ Snopes is wrong on this one point). But โthresholdโ has nothing to do with โthreshesโ on the floor. The word โthresholdโ first appeared in Old English as โtherscoldโ or โthrescold.โ The first part of the word carried the meaning of โto stamp with the feet, to stomp noisily,โ which is, of course, what one does when entering a room with mud or snow on oneโs shoes. The second part of the word is a mystery, but it is fairly certain that it was something other than our modern word โhold,โ and it was transformed into the more familiar โholdโ over time."
morbosidad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:01:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my favourite so far!
gabthebest99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The crazy thing is I know what that word means but I could never explain it to someone.
Trazac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your use of "ye" reminded me of the letter ร, which is pronounced "thorn." It was an old English character which was replaced with "th" and over time became indistinguishable from the letter Y. So "ye" is supposed to be provided as "the."
sverdavbjorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that Y was used in place of thorn for printing purposes (I can't remember of the top of my head why exactly) but was still pronounced as the voiceless dental fricative (th in thought)
Edit: Source from a quick wiki search, though wiki states no citation.
Trazac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The letter deformed over time to resemble Y. You are correct that typsets made use of the Y for double duty however signs and whatnot that came before the use of a typewriter would still use Y in place of a thorn. Around the same time, the digraph th was taking place of the thorn widely. Since the letter was so out of use, there was no real reason to make special type when space was limited and typewriters were pretty good at getting jammed with few characters anyway.
sverdavbjorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. I edited my originally comment from a wiki article including more information. Admittedly, the quotation stated from wiki doesn't have a citation unfortunately.
The English language and its history is quite interesting and always something more to learn about it.
William_Morris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This tradition actually goes all the way back to early Rome and the rape of the Sabine women. The Romans needed some ladies and couldn't get the neighboring tribe to give up their daughters. So they held a big festival, invited the Sabines, and on a certain signal they all grab the nearest young lady and ran off with her. Since the women were taken forcefully, the Romans had to carry their stolen bride into the house, hence the tradition. There are several really amazing sculptures and paintings of this story from the Renaissance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_the_Sabine_Women
EricHart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That first bit comes from that "Life in the 1500s" copypasta that's been floating around the Internet for years and which is almost entirely nonsense. The word first appeared in Old English as "therscold" or "threscold". The first part of that word means "to stamp with the feet; to stomp noisily."
carputt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried carrying my wife over the threshold when we married, buuuut I was too drunk. Luckily my father got pictures of me dropping her!
peanutthewoozle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, you speerate the wheat from the chaff by the action of threshing. If anything was on those floors it would be chaff.
CLearyMcCarthy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:53:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think the wedding dress industry was for commoners back when floors were threshed I'm not quite sure what to tell you.
yepthatguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are many theories for the "carrying the bride" ritual. That's a new one to me.
Houdiniman111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally no more than thirty minutes ago I was wondering if it was "threshold" or "threshhold" because of the way it's pronounced. (At least around here) it's pronounced "thresh-hold".
So the fact that it had to do with thresh makes a ton of sense.
DeltaVZerda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like a terrible flooring. Why?
ParlorSoldier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Insulation, probably.
MainingTheFeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need a source because now thresh name from league makes sense
wardrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always hated that word... It's missing an "h"
It's either the Thres Hold or the Thresh Old. ugh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's one from your comment. Ye old... Ye is actually pronounced The. The "Y" is an archaic letter that we don't use anymore, that makes a th sound.
pedantic_piece_of_sh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds made up but I don't know enough about etymology to dispute it.
P0sitive_Outlook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Ye' isn't a 'Y' and an 'e'; in this context, the 'Y' is used in place of 'ร', which is a 'thorn', and has the 'th' sound. 'Ye' is actually 'รe', pronounced 'the'.
lost_cays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not true. http://www.word-detective.com/2009/03/threshold/
3xc41ibur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading somewhere that it was something to do with a pagan religion and having her appear like she'd been kidnapped to the ancestral gods. Someone that's been kidnapped doesn't walk in willingly. I didn't remember much about it, but it was something along those lines.
Stimonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wonder how many brides had to die from a plank related injury for this to become a tradition.
fusiletum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow
soap__bar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it should actually be "Threshhold"?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They taught me this in architecture
NorthBayEE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like yours better! Can someone have MiniTruth correct this?
__RelevantUsername__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:42 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "ye" the y was pronounced th so pretty much all that all ye ole shit is just the.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I come from we call that a saddle board. I never knew the etymology behind it being a literal thresh hold.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2211 points ยท Posted at 15:25:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still call a remote a clicker because the first one we had actually clicked. It was also connected to the television with a cord.
Hanging up the phone.
People around here still use the term "redd up" when itโs time to clean. It comes from a Scot or Northern English dialect I think. It also shows how isolated my little area of Ohio was.
phillip_u ยท 609 points ยท Posted at 16:01:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting note - some early remotes were called clickers because they actually used metal rods of different lengths to generate ultrasonic tones that the TV listened for and reacted to. Pressing the buttons snapped a small hammer against these rods which produce a clicking noise. No batteries or wires were needed since they were purely mechanical.
The clicking of other ones was simply due to mechanics of the button but they were otherwise electronic and the wired ones existed because IR tech and protocols weren't around yet and existing wireless methods including ultrasound and visible light didn't support enough commands or were too subject to interference from ambient conditions.
pakron ยท 525 points ยท Posted at 16:17:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had one of these tvs and it just so happened that when you spun a ratchet I had around in circles, the tv volume would go down. I showed my friends and they were all convinced I was tricking them somehow but couldn't figure it out. It was no trick.
PM_ME_AMAZON_VOUCHER ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 17:11:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the old person
hardforwork ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:53:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remotes with a ratchet? On the internet this person might as well be a dinosaur.
fizgigtiznalkie ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:50:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of our buttons broke and we found a belt snapped a certain way would work to change the channel.
fingerpointothemoon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:41:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yee Haw!
ThinkToLaugh ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:25:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL! Yep. My father had a giant cabinet CRT television - I think it was either a Zeinith or Magnavox. Either way, that was the first "remote" TV I had seen. It actually had one of those "clickers". If you jangled his key chain the right way, you could turn it on or off, change the channel, and once in a while, change the volume.
oooooooooof ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:23:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am having a hard time visualizing this... can you send a picture? Or a video online? So confused.
Pickselated ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 17:56:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TV picks up a particular frequency sound for each particular remote command. The ratchet he had, when spun, produced the same frequency that the remote would to reduce volume. So when spun, the TV picked up the sounds coming from it and interpreted them as the clicks from the remote.
oooooooooof ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:15:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs so wild. Thanks!
cweis ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:59:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clicker. We had a little sticker that covered the numbers with the network names. The cable company would send us new ones when the lineup changed.
coastal_vocals ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:37:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does that strike me as kind of adorable?
youseeit ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:27:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In high school I had a friend with a TV that would change channels if you jangled your keys in front of it.
kurokoshika ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:43:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actually sounds really fucking cool and Iโd wanna play with that.
Dicky_III_was_framed ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:09:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
check out "phreaking" sometime Equivalent to hacking but using Audio to compromise old telephone networks.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:14:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Lowbacca1977 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:24:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Captain crunch. And it was more like around the early 70s (possibly late 60s)
kabflash ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:51:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had an old payphone in the area around 20-25 years ago that we teens had figured out you could get free calls by holding the '9' button down half way. It produced a tone that for whatever reason allowed us to make free calls.
anna_or_elsa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:45:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could change the channel on some TVs if you used a Slinky just right in front of it. You had to try slower and faster and I guess at some it would hit the right frequency it needed to 'hear'.
bennypapa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keys jingling would also make our tv do random things.
perfectfire ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:42:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The T.V. I had when I was young (around 1986 or so) used an ultrasonic remote. I remember that my parents got me a Star Wars toy ship that when you pushed one of the buttons it would turn off the TV. One night when I was supposed to be in bed I hid behind a rocking chair and used my toy to turn of the TV over and over. When I told my parents how I did it when I was caught (or revealed myself, I don't remember) they returned the toy.
ThompsonBoy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can remember my grandpa changing the channels on his big console tv by jangling his key chain at it.
Brokegunner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad had a friend that had one of those TVs. We were at his house watching TV and he started sneezing and the TV would change 2 or 3 channels with every sneeze. We thought it was a trick but even when we had control of the remote it would happen again when he sneezed.
porncrank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid we had some kind of early light based remote that looked exactly like this. It would activate actual motors in the TV that would physically turn the channel and volume knobs.
We also discovered, by accident, that if you swung one of my mom's pendant necklaces in front of it you could get it to change channels too. I imagine it was some kind of timed/pulsed light reflection that did it, but it looked pretty mystical and freaked some friends out.
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine if the commercials could turn your volume up
ashesall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our TV was a little different. You can do a karate-chop-to-the-neck movement in front of it and you can turn it off. I miss that TV.
valiantfreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had one of those TVs that would change to Channel 1 if I used velcro or clattered plates together.
It was a great TV until it caught fire. RIP 1976 Kriesler 660 StereoTheatre :(
Am0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so ratchet
domromer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs no trick to it. Itโs just a simple trick!
inmyotherpants79 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:08:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is interesting!
Purple_Haze ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:53:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Friend had one of those. His dog learned to shake his dog tags to change the channel when he did not like what we were watching. So either we watched what the dog wanted, or had to turn the TV off.
coastal_vocals ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is delightful.
UnacceptableUse ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:15:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is also why it became a thing to attempt to press it harder when the batteries run out
flacoman954 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:40:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zenith Space Command! No batteries!
h0uz3_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:50:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah! You just solved one of my earliest childhood mysteries!
We had an old TV without the remote that came with it, but I found out that dropping a metal slinky off the table turned the TV off.
I knew there were ultrasonic based remotes, but never thought they were made in a non-electronic way.
jehines57 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It used to be that a 6 penny nail dropped on a tile floor would ccause the sound thatt changed the channel. I used to hide the remote and then throw a nail on the floor during the climatic scene. Drove my parents nuts, and earned me more than one beating.
dragondm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, my parents had one of these when I was growing up. Zenith Space Command. The mechanism in the TV physically turned the knobs. Fun part was the tags on our family dogs collars would emit the same sounds, so if the dog was scratching an itch in the family room, the TV went bananas.
garrisonc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TV's have been listening in on us that long?
bluetrunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had friends when I was a kid (in the 70's) that had a tv with a different type of clicker remote.
It had two metal strips that were curved, and when you pressed one button it pushed on a strip to bend it the other way, and when it did it made a fairly loud click. Kind of like a metal tape measure does if you bend it the wrong way, or a metal lid from a jar when you push in the middle. I think that one changed the channel up one. Press it again and it bends back, making another click to go up another channel. There were only 13 channels.
The other button caused another metal strip to bend and when you let go it snapped back, making two clicks in quick succession. That turned the tv on or off.
phillip_u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Sounds like the same concept yet a different implementation. Cool.
compwiz1202 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap you made me think of that Tonka Truck my uncle got me that was controlled by a clicking remote. I was even able to make the clicking sound myself so I didn't need the remote :D
starmartyr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather had one that was like a squeaky dog toy. You would squeeze it and it would turn the tv on or off.
gorcorps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me get this straight... back in the day we had the technology to input TV commands with nothing but sound. Over time we developed this technology into an IR signal, and eventually into an RF signal. And just recently, one of the quicker growing technology trends involves smart devices that can control your TV and other things via audio commands.
What... what are we doing as a society? Are we even moving forward? What does it all mean? What else don't I know about the old ones? I wonder if having an existential crisis is enough of a reason to skip work, I need to go lie down (you know, after asking Alexa to play something soothing)
Tattered_Colours ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why wasnโt the ultrasonic tones approach also susceptible to ambient conditions just like the visible light spectrum? Is ultrasound just generally uncommon?
phillip_u ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:42:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It totally was but like you say, they're less common. It is because of ambient sounds that I first learned about how such remotes worked. I had a screwdriver set that when I dropped one of the drivers, the channel changed. This spooked me at first but when I realized I could repeat it by dropping the driver on a particular surface, I started looking into how the remote worked.
NavyAnchor03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call it clicker, but I never knew what it meant. Thanks!
9bikes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a TV like that when I was a kid. It was an antique by then (a Muntz!). You could change channels by jingling a ring of keys.
Sutarmekeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandparents had a clicker like this. Or you could rattle the dog's chain and that would work too.
MaskedEngineer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad used to enjoy jangling his keys in front of the TV. Used to make it go haywire.
AmazingJames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a kid, we had a TV with a "clicker" and sometimes the tags on our dogs' collars would make the TV change channels as they walked by clanging tags on their collars
BradC ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 16:19:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We never had a remote that clicked but one of our early VCRs had a corded remote control on it.
The VCR I had hooked up to the TV in my room when I was younger was very much like an audio cassette player. The buttons were ones where you'd have to press the button/lever down to engage (like on a tape player). Big, heavy son of a bitch.
Clarck_Kent ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:41:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We used to get second-hand VCRs from an uncle who worked for a company that recorded television commercials.
They were huge and metal and had similar buttons.
But the most magnificent thing is that they could rewind a two-hour movie in about 15 seconds and it sounded like a plane taking off. On rare occasions, the speed of the spools would rip the tape apart and it would get caught up in the machinery and we'd have to toss the VCR if we couldn't pull it out easily.
But there was always another used VCR to replace it.
I went to visit my uncle at work one day and there was a room with about 500 of these VCRs and we had to wear ear protections because it was so loud.
BradC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd forgotten about the speed of rewind but yeah mine was totally like that too. Very loud.
RockFourFour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:22:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why we bought a separate rewinder. They were marketed as a device to reduce wear and tear on your VCR. That was nonsense, as far as i know, but they did rewind a hell of a lot faster than our vcrs.
BradC ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:25:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in a video store and we had a bank of rewinders behind the counter so that we could rewind the movies that people didn't.
1mikeg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not BS, actually. Rewinding in your primary VCR would eventually wear down the tape heads.
Chrthiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you pressed the square stop button the tape head disengaged
1mikeg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not on all models. There were plenty of VCRs where basically the tape head was always engaged and the stop button simply "turned off" the signal from the tape head.
Banh_mi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:02:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember when you had to manually set all the stations?!
compwiz1202 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember my aunt and uncle has a remote that was wired and you slid the pointer to the channel.
Martinfreekie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had one. It was the Fergerson Videostar. It was a top loader too.
G8kpr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a couple weeks we had one of these. It was our first โremoteโ. Long before we had a vcr, those things were expensive.
So the story went that my a guy at my dad's work was selling it, my dad brought it home for us to try out for a week. My brothers and I loved it. Then one day it was gone.
โWhat happened to the remote????โ I asked, my dad said he returned it to his coworker who sold it to someone else.
WHAAAAAAATTTT?
My dad said โoh, I didnโt think anyone used itโ
Holy shit, at the time it was the greatest invention.
SunshinePumpkin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think our first vcr had buttons like that. We had a camera, too, and you had to carry the whole vcr from a strap over your shoulder with the cameraconnected to it.
fizgigtiznalkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People are probably picturing a USB cable or minijack. Our top load VCR remote cord was about the size of a MIDI cable.
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/122806869230_/SONY-RM-58W-REMOTE-COMMANDER-w-19-CORDED-CABLE.jpg
https://images.bonanzastatic.com/afu/images/2034/4324/50/RCA_Wired_Remote__1_.JPG
Andromeda321 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:27:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We say redd up in Pittsburgh too! But then, we say a lot of weird things in Pittsburgh.
notouchmyserver ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:44:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one cares ya jagoff. /s
steelcityrocker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:53:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a jag, yer a jag.
funkyb ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:16:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yinz is both jags, nah shut yer mauths. I'm tryna listen ta Donnie Iris.
nonegotiation ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone jam a parking chair in it and lets go dahntahn for some Penguinz and Primantis.
steelcityrocker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did yinz hear Sally Wiggins is retirin'? This is the saddest I been since Mario retired the first time arahn.
Anonamyss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:05:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? That's one of the least odd things we say. And it's not just the word choices, it's the pronunciation of certain sounds too. I can instantly pick out a native when I hear them say "McDonald's."
LEIllum ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:07:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs pretty close to the Danish โryd opโ to clean up.
lbelsby ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:04:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in Norwegian "rydd opp", and the Swedish for tidyness(ish) "reda".
Guessing this term is one of those Old Norse origins of English. That or Scandinavian immigrants..
AppleDane ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:38:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's "rydde op" in modern Danish, so it's probably a norse term. Scots is full of those "half-way" Danish words, like "Kirk" ("kirke") and "Bairn" ("barn") and "Ken" ("Kende").
inmyotherpants79 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, itโs old Scots-Norse.
Unsound_M ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:57:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Redd up is still pretty big in Pittsburgh too. You close to the PA border?
inmyotherpants79 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:44:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eastern side of Ohio. We have a massive Amish population.
neverstops ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm from canton and say redd up! My bf thinks itโs odd but Iโve used it my whole life
inmyotherpants79 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:12:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs normal, dammit!
eidas007 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:22:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"redd up" is also frequently used by my Dad. We're from Central PA and I assumed it came from low German.
Anonamyss ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:03:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still say that in western Pennsylvania too. At least the older people still do.
PM_Literally_Anythin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:35:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My high school girlfriend and her family called the remote "the buttons" and it drove me crazy.
"Hand me the buttons."
"Where are the buttons?"
THEY'RE ON THE DAMN REMOTE!
pastel-viper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:42:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex and his family called the remote a "converter", I have no fucking idea why, but it drove me mad.
PM_Literally_Anythin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:08:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're better off without them in our lives.
Kerberos42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems to me early cable boxes were called cable converters, so hence the remote to it was called the converter. I'm having vivid flashbacks to my Grandfathers "boob tube" (his words) setup. (WTF was it called a boob tube anyway?)
freaque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where was your ex from? I live in Toronto and a lot of people here still call a remote a converter.
pastel-viper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely a Toronto area thing then, he was from Mississauga. I'm from Niagara though.
working878787 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:09:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't stand people who call video game controllers "remotes." Drives me crazy
Sommanker ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:52:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about the Wii remote?
working878787 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:54:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...I'll allow it, but watch yourself, McCoy.
RockFourFour ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:22:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be stupid. That's a wiimote.
EarthBoundDom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:15:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only exception.
drakeg4 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:01:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a game controller is quite literally a "remote controller"
inmyotherpants79 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:11:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom does that.
working878787 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:12:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does she also call every console "The Nintendo"?
whisperingsage ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:16:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The playbox 364
gaspitsjesse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super Pretendo.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No! She knows the difference at least.
working878787 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice
ThePadawan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She does!
She also mimes "playing a game" as a mixture between holding a controller and pushing hard onto two smartphones at the same time.
Needless to say, I have not owned a Nintendo console until 3 years after moving out, and that was a Wii. No idea where she got that from.
The kind of stuff old people are picking up from media...
VonCornhole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those moms are grandmas now. Current moms are more likely to call all consoles "playstation"s or "X-box"es than "a Nintendo"
Dom3y ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:56:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know it's just because you're using a different shortening of the same term right? Originally it was "remote controller". Some people shortened that to remote. Which is actually shorter than controller.
working878787 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ehh it sounds clunky.
shevrolet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:25:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds clunky only because you're used to doing it the other way.
working878787 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, exactly
Enzo03 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A streamer I watch calls them "paddles."
working878787 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cringe
werewolfthunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are they middle aged or older? That was a pretty common name for controllers after the home Pong consoles caught on back in the 20th century.
Martipar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:42:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why? it is remote. it isn't directly affixed to the machine.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:30:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from the north-east of Scotland and we say 'redd up / rid up', but use it to mean something that is a mess (as opposed to the act of tidying up).
Jabronee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to say redd up, and I also am from a small town in Ohio. I never thought about it til you said something but I have not heard it anywhere else.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, big question... has she ever called a bell pepper a mango?
Jabronee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha no she has not...
inmyotherpants79 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:24:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's totally a thing.
Again, my husband is from middle Georgia. He looked at me like I was insane when I told him I was making stuffed mangos for dinner. He asked what I was stuffing them with and I said, "ground beef, tomatoes, rice, and garlic."
I think he truly questioned the future of our relationship.
Jabronee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:06:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I just asked my mom and she said when she was young that's what everyone called them!
inmyotherpants79 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs not common anymore with younger kids but I still do it sometimes.
Jabronee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:42:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hilarious. I'm going to ask my wife if she's ever heard that. We're from the middle of Amish country though, I doubt half the Amish even know what a mango is.
drinkscocoaandreads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YES! It took me years to realize that there was a different fruit called a mango.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right?! I didnโt see an actual mango in my area until I was at least 13. Then I found out I have a severe allergy to them. :-(
drinkscocoaandreads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just found out that I don't like either type of mango, lol. It always weirds out my friends when I take them to my favorite mom and pop restaurant for a stromboli and have to request no mango.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! I love mango peppers (thatโs how you distinguish them here) but I canโt eat the green ones. I get heartburn for days.
omgughicanteven ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:12:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now we have iClickers in college!
Hate those overpriced pieces of junk.
techcaleb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See if there is a clicker exchange in your area. If there is, you can pay a deposit, borrow the clicker, and then return it at the end to get your deposit back. If there isn't one, you should start one.
omgughicanteven ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, we don't have one, but I'll look into that! The university co-op has like full control of clickers rn, and even if you buy them used, the registration fee basically makes it the cost of a brand new one. :( It's $50 spent on a glorified remote.
techcaleb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's robbery. Brand new they cost $40-$50
vetlemakt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:20:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As many other words in Britain, this term originated in Norway/Scandinavia I suspect. We say "rydde opp" (well, not the Swedes, but that's because they are Swedish. Swedes are strange).
myrstacken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We do though, reda upp. Oreda is mess. Ordning och reda, pengar pรฅ fredag.
vetlemakt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, I was thinking about "stรคda".
joshi38 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:45:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the clicker. I've heard loads of terms for the remote control, but the one I've never heard outside of my family is "The Button".
No clue why we called it that, it very clearly has more than one button on it, but for some reason that was our word for it and and the term still gets used today.
Anansei33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:01:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Denmark we say "ryd op", or "at rydde" [สyรฐษ] when cleaning. I just looked it up, and apparently it's old west Norse, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse#Old_West_Norse meaning to rob or plunder
inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs fascinating how language migrates.
mightymouse513 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:14:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Western PA uses 'redd up' as well. It's part of Pittsburghese. I never knew the background of it!
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband and family are from middle Georgia. I was living with them and my mother in law asked me what my plan for the day was. I told her I was going to redd up in the living room the read. Oh the looks I got!
basher09 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Norwegian term for "clean up" is "rydd opp". I'm not sure if it's exclusively a Scandinavian term, or if it has origins in other languages.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs old Scots-Norse to be very clear. My tiny part of Ohio is deeply Scottish, Irish, and German and was isolated for a very long time. Old words and terms still mingle into every day language.
tdt0005 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's parents always called the remote "the box" for some reason. My friend now refers to is as such. I'm not sure where that term came from but I always found it amusing.
Blake001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents do too! And do I do as well, having grown up listening to them. Always have to catch myself or people donโt know what Iโm talking about. Maybe itโs a regional thing?
tdt0005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well his parents and grandparents are both local to the same region as me (southeast) and they are the only ones Iโve ever heard say it so Iโm not sure.
Blake001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, New England here so that doesnโt explain it. Oh well!
goldanred ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Controllers had cords? Can corded controllers still be called "remote" controllers?
techcaleb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, because it is a very looooooooong cord.
opopkl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You used to be able to jangle a bunch of keys to make the volume change. It was random if it went up or down though.
Tjerk176197 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i call it a zapper, because when i was young, my parents taught me it zapped when you press the buttons, making it flip through the channels
happystamps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A good friend of mine calls it a "Doofer". What a spanner.
spiff2268 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember tv remote being attached with a cable, but do remember early VCR remotes having one.
MisterSympa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actually gives me a ballpark for how old you are. And for me, I'm old enough to remember when color TVs were an exciting thing.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm in my late 30โs. We were just poor and had an old television.
Horzzo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard 'redd up", but when I joined the ARMY I first heard people say "put something up" to put something away. I never heard the phrase growing up in the north. I think it is a southern thing mostly. That, or no one in Michigan used it.
mgulley08 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:46:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's confusing is when you ask someone to put something up, but the object belongs in a lower cabinet and it's sitting on a table. Children that are painfully literal do not understand this phrase.
new_to_here ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad uses the term โredd upโ. Heโs from the south, not sure where he got it from...
inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I wonder if heโs got Irish family or someone originally from PA or OH.
ohitsyourself ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting stuff "redd up" is really common here in northern ireland. Usually means to get stuff sorted out or cleaned up, but we use it for lots of reasons other cleaning. (E.g I'll be there once I get this work redd up)
Also dont really know how to spell it since its only ever spoken, just using "redd" because you did.
DaysforDays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Redd up actually sounds pretty cool. I might have to start using it.
Juicy_Brucesky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is still a thing though
atomic_redneck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first remote I used (way back when the Earth's crust was still cooling) was a Zenith TV remote that was purely mechanical. It "pinged" aluminum rods to send a signal to the TV.
See http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2023689_2023681_2023586,00.html
JeiSiN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
does anyone else call it a "converter"?
fordshan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Does anyone know the origin of that?
Alex1331xela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another "converter" caller right here. No idea where it stems from, I just know I picked it up from my parents
fangxx456 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Redd up is also used in Pittsburgh and south western PA.
PrincessFig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We are from the same small part of Ohio then! haha
inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coshocton County here.
PrincessFig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Columbiana County - but I know Coshocton well! I've worked a lot over that way.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm sorry but we have an amazing Mexican restaurant.
drinkscocoaandreads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew it. Well, I guess you're not quite SE Ohio, but fairly close. I'm Perry County by birth, but a recent transplant to Zanesville.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Zanesville isnโt that far away... well in terms of this area!
drinkscocoaandreads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it definitely isn't. I'm fairly familiar with Coshocton.
BatBurgh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi neighbor! Yinz guys gonna redd up dahn โer nโat?
Rihsatra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently redd up is used where I'm from in PA, but I've never heard it used at home. We're not quite Amish area but kind of close.
bradfo83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call it the controller - my wife hates that for some reason. She calls it the remote. Both I assume comes from "remote control".
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad had the perfect answer for this, "He who holds the remote/clicker has control."
bradfo83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He who controls the
spiceremote, controls the universe![deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. A small section of Ohio use it as well.
BeachBum2012 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Genie remote for DirecTV makes a rather loud click. Its really annoying, and I'm considering buying a different remote for our tv because of it.
rhinovodka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, have not heard "redd up" in a long time. My mother used to say that. She was from SE Ohio.
veryfascinating ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, that explains why my university calls that thing a clicker! The little remote control thingy you use to give electronic responses during a lecture... That thing didn't even click when you push its buttons...
grenudist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Redd = a salmonid's spawning spot
WhiteyDude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:05:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first TV had a wireless remote, but the TV had just a dial with 2-13 channels on it. The remote had two buttons, on-off and channel. When you pressed the channel button, the dial physically turned, and made a distinct "chathunk" sound, and only went in one direction.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh! Another good one is, "Donโt touch that dial!" at commercial breaks.
We had an old television with actual dials and horrible reception. We would fight over who had to get up and finagle the dial when it was time to change to one of the other three channels we got.
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inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theyโre becoming a rarity.
twoBrokenThumbs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my house we call the remote the "teek teek" because that's the equivalent of clicker from an Arabic speaking family growing up in the 80s. (And I guess I should clarify that isn't an official Arabic slang, just something my wife's family made up)
yepthatguy2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My modern TV remote clicks.
RustenSkurk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. I wonder if it's Scandinavian in origin. In Danish we say "rydde op" for cleaning, meaning literally clearing up.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs definitely Norse in origin but since there isnโt a huge Norse/Scandinavian population here itโs assumed we got it from Scottish, Irish, or English dialect. They stole it from you lot.
RustenSkurk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:22:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it does seem that the more northern parts of the UK has a more Scandinavian loan words. Also "kirk" for church in some parts. I assume those parts were hit harder by the early medieval cross-Northern Sea tourist industry.
lapsedcynic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard of this or anything like that I can think of. Think you might have got it direct from your Scandinavian immigrants.
LateralusYellow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad calls it a "Blooper", I looked into the history of the term and apparently it has something to do with the way old radios worked. I don't think it's a common term even amongst older people, might be a Canadian thing.
cgriboe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Danish itโs โrydde op.โ Some connection?
Source: Am Dane
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Norse. We got it from the Scottish/Irish/English immigrants settling in the area and they got it from you.
cgriboe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool! Thank you.
HisFaithRestored ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alive just long enough to commonly see TVs with dials instead of remotes when I was younger (born 1992) and I've never seen a remote/clicker connected via a cord. Was this common in the past or just for certain brands?
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The earliest television I remember in my house was from the seventies. It had a corded remote. Our next one didnโt even have it... we were stuck fighting over who changed the channel.
goodfridaycarnivore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma said redd up, too! We're from central PA though and I've never heard anyone else aside from my dad say it.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother lives in San Diego now. He called once and just said, "Youโre on speaker, Pants. What do you say when you want your husband to clean up?"
I said, "Would you help me redd up a little before your friends come over?"
He slammed something down and screamed, "I FUCKING TOLD YOU WE SAY IT,,โ
...he was maybe a little drunk.
drinkscocoaandreads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:22:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say "redd" up, too! I was an anomaly in my Linguistics course because I hadn't realized that everyone else says "rid". Southeastern Ohio, perhaps?
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coshocton County!
ShankyTaco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To clarify the "redd up" thing, it is a term used in Doric, which is a Scottish dialect in the North East. Being so close to Norway, we had a lot of Norwegian settlers when Scotland wasn't a thing, so that is likely how we got the term. I guess a bunch of Scots moved to Ohio, which is neat.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huge Scottish and Irish population. Most of the old names from here can be traced back to when Ohio was a territory/colony. Iโd say 90% of them are Scottish or Irish.
GlassTwiceTooBig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an aunt and uncle who call it a beeper. It drives me up the walls every time I hear them say it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents had an ongoing play argument most of my life, mom called it a clicker, dad would reply "you mean the remote?"
Then one day I was reading the comic strip Foxtrot and Paige was fighting with Jason. She yells "Gimme the clicker!" I showed it to mom and she laughed so hard she was nearly in tears.
Ancguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where in Ohio did you use that term? We used "redd off the table" for clearing it after a meal. This was in Northeastern Ohio, but I always thought it was a western PA thing, since that's where my mom's family was from.
inmyotherpants79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coshocton County
Ancguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got it- my family is from Stark County, not far away.
kirkbywool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does every family call it something different. I had a few mates call it the clicker, one who called it the twitcher and for some reason I call it he doobery and I have no idea where that comes from
inmyotherpants79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they must.
My grandma called it the switcher. My grandpa called it the damn thing.
prodevel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually my grandpa had a really old one that would click in certain tiny tones you could barely distinguish. The TV could tell, though.
rostinze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hey Pittsburgh
Real_Srossics ยท 6439 points ยท Posted at 14:59:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window.
JimBroke ยท 3900 points ยท Posted at 15:20:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself, my back windows are still manual
Ashybuttons ยท 1024 points ยท Posted at 15:33:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My back windows don't even go up or down. I drive a two door, but still...
jjhats ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:28:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fun fact, chevy made 4 door sedans in the 80's which had windows that did not move either
Luke_Fletcher ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:01:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My current 4 door car only the front windows go down
jjhats ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:02:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn! What car?
slugo17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My money is on a Jeep or a Pontiac.
Luke_Fletcher ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:26:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its a Citroen DS4
jjhats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he said its a citroen
LoneRangerLong ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:42:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to get one of these, because my dog in the rear seat has learnt that if he hits the knob with his paw, he can open the window to get some fresh air.
Notatumor1990 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:38:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't bother. I have window locks. When I put them on and my dog can't get the window down she farts. She's always excited about car rides which apparently messes with her digestion which leads to eye watering dog farts. Suffice to say, the windows go down anyway.
Luke_Fletcher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:52:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't they are nice to drive just they aren't cheap to run, a service cost me ยฃ160 the other week and I needed 3 tyres which then cost me an extra ยฃ270
FranticDisembowel ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:13:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you imagine windshields that were retractable. That would be so nice on calm summer days.
Until I eat a bug. Or get impaled.
blazingwhale ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:32:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2 very very different scenarios to worry about
AspiringMetallurgist ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:38:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cars used to have fold down widshields, but they went away due to safety concerns.
MyFriendsCallMeTroll ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:36:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's still possible on the Jeep wranglers.
MattcVI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:04 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything is possible with Jeep Wranglers
Xx_QuickScope_69_xX ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:23:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that's a hatchback, the boot/trunk counts as a 3rd door.
Ashybuttons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not.
andersleet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to drive a Honda del Sol. Two door with a power back window :D
theidleidol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess most peopleโs back windows donโt move either by that analysis. I drive a four-door SUV and the rearmost side windows also donโt move (theyโre mostly in the luggage compartment)
Luke_Fletcher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My current 4 door car only the front windows go down
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:09:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Luke_Fletcher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah Citroen DS4 and yeah the back door is shaped weird so the glass is as well so they can't move down or something. Like this
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Luke_Fletcher ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:55:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yep but I sit in the front so its not my issue haha
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My one back window doesn't go up or down sometimes unless I got to the back door, press the window button, and either push down or pull up on the window. the weather stripping folds over and gets caught. I've tried and tried to find some way to keep it from doing that, but the car is all but 25 years old, so there are some things that you just have to accept.
graebot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about the rest of it?
Ashybuttons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rest of what?
Climbers_tunnel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:50:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The car. You know, does it go down? Can you burrow to the center of the Earth with it?
Ashybuttons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never tried, but I'm going to assume yes.
graebot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:24:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The car. Mines got like wheels and seats and a horn.
Ashybuttons ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:52:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, mine has those things too.
graebot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Highfive!
Ashybuttons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
high five
Luke_Fletcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My current 4 door car only the front windows go down
ridger5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even have back windows!
xskipy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Opel Corsa 1997, awesome car, manual locking, manual windows, two door.
Looking forward going on a vacation in summer in this car
l-_l- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even have windows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Alfa Romeo Sprint had wind-up rear quarters for the back passengers.
some-dev ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 15:25:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've still not seen an auto back window, I must have only travelled in trash cars
[deleted] ยท 398 points ยท Posted at 15:42:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Peasant
-zimms- ยท 222 points ยท Posted at 16:01:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of that one. Is it a Ford?
Washappyonetime ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:34:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm just picturing a Ford Peasant. Probably would get decent gas mileage.
isanass ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:54:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just be careful, it might explode when hit due to the gas tank being placed in an impact-prone area.
Bag-o-toys ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:12:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for a dated Pinto reference. You know Ford has made a pile of other shitty vehicles since. I'm thinking the Ford Contour/Mercury Mistake.
TheConboy22 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:00:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chevy cruise comes to mind
Chrthiel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the cheapest feeling car I've ever driven.
Seriously, a happy meal toy uses higher grade plastics than the interior of it.
TheConboy22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The car is soooo bad and they try to lure you in with price. Saying itโs the Chevy version of a Corolla.
Chrthiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything about it just feels cheap and poorly fitted
Bag-o-toys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You had me at Chevy.
Zanzabushino ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pioneers used to ride them for miles.
MTAST ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something like this?
Washappyonetime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:23:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spot on!
quedfoot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:27:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Peugeot, most like.
filthy French
Mash_Ketchum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Peasants canโt a Ford.
theBytemeister ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:06:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a Kia. My POS 99 Crown Vic had automatic windows, but my brothers 2013 Kia doesn't even have automatic locks.
thetallfreak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never think of Crown Vics as a POS. I had a 95 Crown Vic Police Interceptor. I deliberately beat that car to shit and it never died. Granted the body was rusting, and the door panels had all fallen off at least once, but fixed that with some screws straight into the door frame. I still say that was the best car I ever owned. Sold it few years back to upgrade to a newer car..... I still miss it
302HO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had 4 (88 Grand Marquis, 90 Crown Vic, 96 Crown Vic, 08 Grand Marquis) as daily drivers and I don't ever want to be without one. It'll be harder since they stopped making them in 2011 but I'll always have one.
I'll replace it as a daily driver with a truck but I'll always have a full size Ford - It's the only way to drive.
SimpleMoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope those seats are better than the Caprice's were
theBytemeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had mine for about 10 years now. It's a POS but it is my POS. Luckily for me the car is effectively worthless right now, so when I get another car I'm going to keep the Vic and try to rebuild it. I tried to trade it in on the last car I tried to purchase and the vendor told me he'd give me the 500 KBB value (independently verified) not to leave it on his lot!
Bag-o-toys ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:10:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Automatic locks, still waiting for an automatic transmission.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Bag-o-toys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neither are automatic locks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Bag-o-toys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it depends on what you call automatic locks. My last vacation to France I rented a Peugot something or other and so long as you had the key fob with you, the car would unlock when you approached. It would also lock itself as you walked away. Literally brilliant. I'm not thinking that's what we have been talking about though. I was envisioning just remote locks, kind of like OP meant power windows, most likely.
theBytemeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, if he wants to lock his car he has to hit the little tab on each door by hand, if he wants to unlock them he has to go and pull each one up by hand.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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theBytemeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the info, I must admit that my lingo on automotive security features might be a little outdated. XD
ComradeStrange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Volkswagen.
_Hobojoe_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kia
Shittiesthipster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle used to drive a Horunner.
palerthanrice ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:28:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you live in Cuba?
Reddits_Worst_Night ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:22:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen a manual window in years
Juggernauticall ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:21:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Where do you live? I've never seen a car with power windows where not all the windows were powered. They're either all powered or all manual windows.
hrehbfthbrweer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2013 opel has automatic front windows with manual back windows.
It's really common in smaller cars.
Juggernauticall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must be common outside the US because we don't have Opels here.
CorruptMilkshake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You probably do, just under a different badge. They are Vauxhall in the UK and I believe both brands are owned by GM.
Juggernauticall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked up Opel and it turns out they were owned by GM from 1929 until just recently when a French automaker bought them on August 1st, 2017. But yes, Opels are Buicks in the US. They are suppose to be a luxury car brand here but really only grandparents drive Buicks.
Bag-o-toys ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too much time in cop cars?
AlexTraner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All 5 of my windows are fully automatic. Press button and done, no holding down the buttons even.
Juggernauticall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how it should be. I shouldn't have to hold the button for so long. My finger gets tired...
AlexTraner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an old person car. That could be true for some little old lady!
the-crooked-compass ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:52:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a garbage man?
NeverBeenStung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stay away from me
suicidebylifestyle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think most cars post 1999 had the option you just had to pay for it.
DJToastyBuns ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That seems very old...2013 explorers didn't have the option, even when fully loaded. Ironically, fully loaded 2013 focuses did.
snmnky9490 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:45:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What part of the world do you live in? In the US I haven't seen a manual window in many years, and definitely not in any car made after the mid 2000s. Even the absolute lowest base model of every vehicle comes with motorized windows, and manual ones would likely have to be some kind of special custom aftermarket modifications.
DJToastyBuns ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First point: my mom's 2008 Chevy Cobalt had manual windows all around.
I took "auto" to mean "one-touch" when replying about the explorer and focus. I'm in the US, used to work in a Ford factory.
oceandaemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:09 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always laugh a bit when new cars don't have that since my 1984 Subaru GL has one-touch windows.
nickasummers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the US, my 2009 Nissan Versa had manual locks, manual windows, and the stereo could only play uncompressed audio cds (no mp3 cds, also didn't have an aux port). It was admittedly a basic model, but manual windows were definitely a thing in stock models even in the late 2000s.
not-scp-1715 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine are auto and roll almost all the way down :)
Luke_Fletcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My current 4 door car only the front windows go down
some_random_kaluna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Toyota 4 Runners had them as far back as the 1980s. Your mileage may vary.
Drew707 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am unsure if you mean your car has electric front and mechanical back, or you haven't seen auto electric back. My 1999 RX300 has auto up and down on all four doors. That is pretty standard for Lexus since that time.
Publix_Deli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol if it's an electric powered window it's not manual. "Rolling" the window up/down refers to using one of these.
some-dev ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:42:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep that's what I'm talking about. I've still not been in a car that doesn't have those in the back.
Publix_Deli ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:46:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What country are you from? I haven't seen a new car with window cranks for at least 10 years, except for pickup trucks and a base model Hyundai Accent around 2013.
some-dev ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:00:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UK, I mean almost everyone I know drives second hand cars and I don't own a car at all, but I've definitely been in cars built in the last 5 years. My brother has a Mercedes which he got brand new about 3-4 years ago and even that has manual windows in the back.
Saxon2060 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:38:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UK here, too. Not sure I've ever seen electric back windows. Never really been in a very fancy car but my mum's approx. 4yo Audi A1 has manual back windows. My girlfriend's work car is a 17 plate with manual back windows, too.
melissapete24 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:38:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, my '93 Buick has all power windows. Of course, that was more the exception than the rule back then, but I must admit I've literally never seen a car that has electric windows only in the front. I've only ever seen cars that either have all electric windows, or all hand-crank windows, never both. That's just super weird to me.
I'm from central Pennsylvania, USA, btw.
snmnky9490 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:48:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
US here and I don't think any car sold here in the past decade even had the option to have manual windows, even the cheapest of base models.
rob10s2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of base model work trucks still have crank windows
CptDepressing ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:24:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a thing in the US. We refuse to believe that a Mercedes can be an everyman's car, to the point that Daimler designed two new classes, GLA and CLA, to sell here because we wouldn't touch the A-class. "Hatchback" is a dirty word here, and German cars must only be upmarket.
Screw the rest of you, I love my 190, despite it having fewer amenities than the Toyota I had before it.
NormGreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs funny though. Volkswagen is generally seen as cheaper in the US than in Europe. GTIs can be had for ~21000 USD compared to like ~ยฃ29000 I think at the cheapest
CptDepressing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because we won't excuse poor reliability unless it's an "American" manufacturer. VWs are GM quality at Mercedes parts prices.
Thorzaim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaha
melissapete24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hatchback" is a dirty word? Why, though? I love hatchbacks. I never understood why everyone else I know hates them. I think they're convenient; I loved my Spark when I still had it. R.I.P., Blossom. :(
CptDepressing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love hatches, too. Soccer mom's won't touch them, though. America is big-- why would I buy a small car to get Kayden and Aidan to practice if I could get a Tahoe?
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:59 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you only have 2 kids, you don't need some huge monstrosity of a vehicle. I never understood that. My family only ever had me and my little brother, and we never had anything bigger than a regular sedan, except for a few years when we had this really nice van that was almost a camper, but we only ever used that when we went to Canada. A Chevy Sonic or something similar in size is plenty big enough for a family of four, and it comes in hatchback. Let me tell you, just judging from my Spark, the trunk space in hatchbacks are ridiculous. I couldn't believe how much room was in the back of that tiny Spark! And my best friend's Fiesta (a piece of junk, actually, but we won't go there) has more room than she could ever fill up unless she decided to pack up her whole house. So I don't understand why soccer moms would refuse a hatchback. They're extremely convenient, not to mention the gas money saved because they are much more efficient, usually, than a minivan or an SUV. That, and I think they look pretty awesome, too. I'd love to be able to find a cheap, reliable hatchback when I have to look for a new car come the new year. crosses fingers
CptDepressing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:40 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is nothing that a family car needs to do that a Subaru wagon won't do... Except for the head gaskets and timing belt, but that's really just the EJ-series motors.
My suggestions for a cheap, reliable hatch would be a Honda Fit (not first generation), Toyota Yaris, any of the Scions, a Prius, a Civic, or a Corolla hatch if you can find one.
Having worked for "American" car companies, I can't urge you enough to buy Honda or Toyota.
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:39 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahahahaha. You just listed pretty much all the car manufacturers I am not a fan of. My dad has been a mechanic all his life; he owns his own business. He literally works on whatever people bring him, so he's worked on pretty much every make of car you can get in the States. He prefers Chevy, and generally domestic over imported, but he's not averse to non-American vehicles. When I have to look for a new car come the new year, though, I'll only be able to use what I get as a tax refund for it, as my credit is not all that great. It's in the "fair" range, so I'm guessing it will be difficult to find a loan. That, and I really can't afford another monthly bill right now, unfortunately. So, basically, I'll just have to find the best cheap car in the area, under $1500. :/ I had bought a brand-new 2013 Chevy Spark from a local dealership toward the end of 2013; the dealer actually had to order it for me, because they couldn't keep them on the lot. It was, hands down, the BEST car I could have wished for: amazing mileage, small but safe, and I loved how it looked, too. I was planning on keeping it for forever, but literally 1 year and 2 days after I got it, as I was driving to work in the winter, a lady going the opposite direction hit a patch of black ice and skidded, hitting me and slamming me into a road sign. My poor Blossom was totaled. I would love to get another Spark someday, but right now I just can't. :( So, what I would actually like to get, if I can find one, is a Chevy Cobalt. They're reliable and easy to fix, and they're pretty good on gas, which is what I especially need, as I drive 100 miles/day 5 days/week. But I basically have to take what I can get come new year. :/ Oh, well, it is what it is. I don't really want to retire my beloved Bessie, though, but she just needs too much work to pass inspection, and she's not worth more than $500 at this point; she's all but 25 years old.
CptDepressing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:17 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you get a Cobalt, just make sure to get one that's had all the recalls done.
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:56 on December 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I will definitely keep that in mind. I have notice, though, that they're hard to find at decent prices. People seem to always want more for them than they're worth. -_- I honestly have no clue what I'll end up with, though, unfortunately.
Tech_guy3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:01:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uk here as well, I seem to have a quite different experience to some-others here as the majority of cars I have seen have electric back windows. A few don't but most I have seen do.
GunsNMuffins ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:08:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, he bought a base spec Merc, to say he has a Merc. Essentially.
PM_Me_Rude_Haiku ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The audacity!
Cleev ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:23:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought Hyundai made those?
GunsNMuffins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a bastard!
But forreal though, the lowest spec models of German cars is usually pretty poor, you skimp on the day to day niceties to be able to say you own a Merc.
henrycharleschester ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:15:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2015 Fiesta has rear cranks.
andnowmyteaiscold ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
. . . and a transmission issue, most likely.
henrycharleschester ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
andnowmyteaiscold ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The automatic transmission systems that have been used in fiestas and focuses for the past several years are known to have first gear issues. Cars will often shudder or shake when accelerating from a stop; it feels as if the car is going to stall sometimes.
Instead of addressing the issues years ago, Ford has continued to use the faulty transmission in their cars and have "fixed" the problem by allowing people a one time replacement of a transmission part, which helps temporarily, but the shuddering returns.
Here's a class action investigation into the problems. For some it seems to have been an issue with brand new cars, and for others it seems to pop up 60,000 miles in or so.
henrycharleschester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good job I'm in the U.K. with a manual then.
Juggernauticall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Front cranks, too?
henrycharleschester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope
Juggernauticall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crazy. I've never heard of that before.
henrycharleschester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought it was common in most basic models.
Juggernauticall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crank windows, yea, but not powered in the front and crank in the back. Not in the US at least. Most base models even come with power windows all around, too, though.
GimmieMore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's base level Chevy Spark has cranks front and back.
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, what year was that? Even my brand-new, 2013, lowest level Spark had power windows, but it did not have power locks, or even a key fob to open the locks. Still LOVED that car and miss it every single day. (Some person hit me when they hit a patch of black ice, and it totaled my car. :( It was literally 1 year and 2 days old that day.)
GimmieMore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure, but can't be more than a few years old. No power locks or fobs either.
Sucks about yours getting totaled. :(
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Strange. Maybe they started skimping after 2013.... And thanks; it did suck. Hopefully someday I'll be able to get another. I just want another 2013, though, not a brand-new one. :)
uizanfagit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:03:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my 1990 f250 has automatic windows...
LeeTheENTP ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:54:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am ALL manual on this blessed day!
Astrophy058 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:41:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. 90โs car drivers unite! I still have a manual key. I have to press those black knobs to lock my doors and put my key IN the door to unlock it.
namingconventions ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:26:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2007 cars unite?
undreamt_odds ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Word, power locks and power windows are for yuppies.
IronChariots ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 2012 car with all manual windows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Astrophy058 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
99 Ford Ranger here. There must be a sub for us!
Cinemaphreak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Own Jeep, can confirm - they ALL roll up/down.
TheyCallMeStone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jeep owner here, EVERYTHING on my car is manual.
Cinemaphreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully someone told me to get automatic transmission.
Hydropwnicks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:09:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SRT4
xBloBx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neon/sx/srt... damn olโ time
TheseWereThePlaces ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you have me wondering. I've never been in my back seat.
duffman13jws ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone drives an SRT-4
puddyspud ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:44:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$100 says manual windows donโt break down nearly as much as automatic
RockFourFour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:25:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had power windows malfunction. I have had window cranks come off, though.
melissapete24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The motors can get weak. That's what happened in my car, and I kept forgetting and putting the window down and then was never able to put it back up again. So my dad disconnected the window button. According to him, "Now you can push that button all you want, and nothing will happen. Have fun." So, yeah, the motors can get weak, and then you essentially have an immobile window.
RockFourFour ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I realize they can. I've just never seen it happen.
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. I've seen it happen to more than just my car. But, then I again, I live in the land of "if it still gets you from A to B, don't get rid of it yet". It's a regular occurrence to see cars that are probably worth no more than $200-$300 driving around. My car is 25 years old and only worth about $500, and that's being generous. Ahaha!
RockFourFour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's probably it. Around here, due to salt, 15 years is really pushing it for a car. Mine's 10, and starting to rust out.
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:36 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a lot of salt here, too, in the winters, but, surprisingly, only the bumper is rusting out. I'd have to get a new one to pass my next inspection, but there's too much else wrong with her, anyway, so I have to retire her come March 1st. :( I'll miss poor old Bessie.
MightyPenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a mechanic...they break more than you might realize and much more often than a manual crank. Switches go bad, wiring can go bad or get messed up, the motor/regulators can fail...in a manual crank its pretty simple and if it starts getting hard to turn just lube up and clean the mechanism.
A_BOMB2012 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Automatic windows almost never break down anyway. Thatโs like buying a double barreled shotgun because youโre afraid a pump action one will jam. Sure itโs more reliable in theory, but at a certain point it doesnโt matter anymore.
puddyspud ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, our luck has been very different with cars but good on ya mate!
A_BOMB2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I rarely roll them down, so that might be part of it.
Mr_frumpish ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:26:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All my windows are manual. No automatic locks either.
Joey__stalin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought that the manual windows should be up front where you can reach - electric in the back so you don't have to reach.
jaybirdswatcher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am ALL power windows on this blessed day
1mikeg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My front windows are still manual. 2005 Toyota Corolla for life, baby!
knyg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manual for a car is the only way to drive. Manual windows FTW!!
4Corners2Rise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dodge neon? That's the only car I have seen partial power windows on. Tell me there aren't more.
Zedoack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well aren't you lucky... All my windows are manual! And I drive a 2012!
I'm sure it cost the company more to put in manual windows than it would have been to put automatic ones in. It's just that by putting manual windows in, they encourage people to get the higher model car.
lizbia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My front windows are manual!
funkyb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ideal car would have a manual driver's window and the other three automatic.
esterator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
same
soomuchcoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why you gotta judge me like that! My dad never taught me to roll shift.
ibrokethestars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My front ones are still manual, my back ones don't roll down.
WingflameFire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1994 NISSAN MICRA REPRESENT
IronMan883 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mine too!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husbands truck was manufactured as a work utility truck everything is manual (it also has a temp gauge for the transmission which i think is pretty cool)
Nprguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The future is now, Old man"
TheBossMan5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah I drive a 2000 Chevy Truck, manual crank windows and manual locks all day, baby.
desertfox314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good ole neons lol
just4747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol Neon srt-4?
RuafaolGaiscioch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of my windows are still manual.
Suivoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same.
ItsSansom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are things going in the bronze ages?
MrGoatOnABoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait just the back ones? I mean I was only born in the early 90s but I've never seen a car with only the front windows being powered. Either all manual or all power.
newloaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! Seems like this one is never going to die.
Also, brand new cars are being produced today with 4 manually controlled windows.
esoteric_enigma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first car had automatic windows that didn't work well. You had to press the button and push the window up or down yourself.
Camerandom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pronounced hybrid.
Holovoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do know they recalled all 1998 Toyota Corollas, right?
ThePopojijo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oooh look at mister rich guy with front automatic windows
lmpaler86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drive a work truck. Can agree. Manual windows
DingoFixedMyWater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the Dodge Neon owner.
ThankYouVeryMuch2017 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chrysler?
atomiku121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, and I'm glad they are. When buying my truck (used) a lot of owner reviews mentioned the electric motors were specific to that model and year of truck, making them hard to find and expensive, and usually died every 30k miles or so. One reviewer said he just bought a box of em and only swaps out the driver's door and says screw the passengers.
servohahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of my windows are manual. 2001 Honda Civic.
ilovemallory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself, my car doesn't even have electric windows
GatsbytheGr8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no shit i dated a girl who asked me what these little handles on the door were for .
RottMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry
Landshark6710 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if they are manual I would say the term Rolling Up or Rolling Down is probably related to the canvas style coverings. Such as rolling out a canvas tent. Some Jeeps could be argued that they still have to "roll' their windows up or down but even the hand crank isn't really rolling.
bonjones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neon?
futurehead22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2016 truck at work has manual windows. My 1998 car has electric windows front and back and sunroof, and they all close automatically when I lock the car.
[deleted] ยท 414 points ยท Posted at 15:27:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some brand new base model f150s still have the manual windows.
GTE520 ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 16:39:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing stopping me from wanting that trim package is no cruise control.
[deleted] ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 16:40:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live up north so I can't even use cruise control for half the year, the extra $6,000 for cruise control isn't worth it
Imaskeet ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:22:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I must be missing something. What would weather/time of year/location have to do with being able to use cruise control or not?
[deleted] ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 18:24:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't supposed to use cruise control when roads are wet or when they could be icy because if you start to hydroplane/slide the car actually accelerates to maintain the same speed.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:37:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless it has traction control, that will disable cruise.
JT99-FirstBallot ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 19:48:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until your traction control system shits the bed in a less than 7 year old car and it cancels your cruise constantly and FUCK YOU SVC TIRE CONTROL MONITOR. I WANT TO CRUISE DAMNIT. I hate newer cars and their damn electronics so much sometimes.
coredumperror ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:24:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt think itโs fair to blame electronics in general just because your car has shitty electronics.
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:56:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disable tcs. I have a relay in my car that automatically 'presses' the 'tcs off' button so I don't have to do it every time.
Demache ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SVC TIRE MONITOR is a TPMS error, likely because the battery on one of the tire pressure sensors died (7 years actually sounds about right for lifespan). That's an entirely different thing. Generally when your traction control system has issues, ABS will too, since they share wheel speed sensors.
Also, it sounds like you have have a GM. They can make amazingly durable powertrains but lord have mercy when it comes to their electronics, especially if its from the 90s or 00s.
JT99-FirstBallot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned something today. Thank you.
AJRiddle ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:08:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's just exagerrating on the half-the-year.
If you live anywhere where snow doesn't melt during winter you shouldn't use it from late-December to early-March.
So basically the coldest fifth or so of the USA and all of Canada except for BC.
lesonj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How come BC is exempt?
AJRiddle ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because the part where people live in British Columbia is warmer than half of the USA in winter.
Just like Seattle is the northernmost major city in the USA but it rarely snows.
Roevhaal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:08:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't Anchorage count?
AJRiddle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:09:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean major city in the USA generally means top 30-40 largest metropolitan areas.
The Anchorage metro area ranks 133rd in the USA. It would be 11th if it were in Canada though lol.
Roevhaal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, I though they be ~50th
lesonj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just wondering because I live in the interior of BC and our winter months are definitely cold/icy enough to deter the use of cruise control. I'm guessing you're talking about the Vancouver area.
AJRiddle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean what's the population of BC on the coast vs inland...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AJRiddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Appalachians or northern edge of PA? Pretty sure Philly and Pittsburgh doesn't stay cold enough consistantly for it to not melt.
Roevhaal ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:18:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Late december to early march usually have good driving conditions, it's the constant melt and freeze prior and after that which makes the road slippery.
blackcat122 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:07:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time for a road trip.
0bel1sk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't or won't?
FrostyBeav ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:54:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bought a 2016 Nissan Frontier that had manual windows and locks but has A/C and cruise (and, weirdly enough, steering wheel audio controls). Simplicity in a work truck is really nice but I gotta have my cruise control.
Madasiaka ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:08:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL they still make cars without cruise control
Now I have to come up with different things to yell at folks varying their speed ~20mph on the highway
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:49:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2010 Corolla has manual windows, manual locks, no cruise control, no AC. It's as bare bones as you can possibly get.
And I like it that way. At this pace it's going to last me another 7 years. It's just a tank that keeps on going.
johnty123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we have a 1999 corolla LE with auto everything, cruise control AND AC (that still mostly works fine except when over 30 deg C or so where it can't keep up).
two years ago a neighbour backed into it with his ram (talk about poetic justice) on the street when getting out of his spot forgetting he was in reverse, and our insurance company tried to convince us to total it. we fought tooth and nail for it to have it repaired, and now are still driving it.
With only 180k kms, at this pace its probably still gonna last 7 years at least.
the gas mileage sucks however: probably worse or just on par with a modern CRV with CVT... :P
CaseyAndWhatNot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On Chevys you can just buy the buttons and plug them in and bam, you got cruise control. Same with steering wheel audio controls.
TeamJim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My old work truck (2013 f-150) had crank windows and it sucked because it was wide enough that I couldn't reach over and roll the other window down while I was driving, and with only one window down it got the coke bottle effect. So I never used the windows. My new work truck has power windows and it's great.
I love the crank windows on my wrangler though.
Tie_me_off ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:28:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that people actually care for cruise control
puq123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cruise control is fucking great, so people caring for it shouldn't be a surprise
Tie_me_off ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve had it in my vehicles for years and have used it here and there. Iโm not a fan. And this is from someone who drives about 40-50k miles a year.
Yoshi_XD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you're on a road trip with nobody else on the road for miles, it's great. You maintain the same speed, can take your foot off the pedals you give it a chance to relax, fuel economy goes up. I use it any time there's no cars ahead of me when I'm going to be in the interstate for more than 30 minutes.
PimpTrickGangstaClik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was reading this thread wondering if I was the only one who doesn't care about cruise control in the least
CestMoiIci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. The gearing in the doors is clearly meant to have a (relatively) high rpm electric motor, instead of the manual crank, so you turn and turn and turn that crank, and the window barely inches down in them.
Gets suuper annoying
TeamJim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a completely different mechanism. The gearing isn't the same. They put a low gear ratio in them to reduce the amount of force required to move the window.
CestMoiIci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, lower torque, higher rpm.
The ones I've used, are clearly set up with that rather than the "normal" gearing on older crank windows.
GetOffMyBus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about the newer ones, but you could get cruise control with manual windows/locks on 2010 f150 models
ascii42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2006 Mazda B2300 (Same thing as a Ranger) has manual windows and locks and has cruise control. Which is particularly interesting because it also has a manual transmission.
chumswithcum ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:52:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah they're work trucks, it's one more thing to break.
If I was purchasing a fleet of work trucks, I wouldn't get anything more than the base package either.
GetOffMyBus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:12:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manual windows can still break, just a helluva lot cheaper/easier to fix if they do
chumswithcum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh for sure. It's just a crank vs. wiring, fuses, and a motor.
Edit - also at least one switch.
TeamJim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true at all. My company's old work trucks for instance were 2007-2013 F150s. A Motorcraft manual window regulator was about $80. An electric one with the motor was about $8 more. You can get just the motor (the part that usually goes bad) for about $45. Installation is about the same, you just remove a plug instead of the crank.
0OKM9IJN8UHB7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How often does a crank regulator shit the bed? I've replaced a handful of motors, I've never done anything beyond the crank on a manual unit.
mr42ndstblvdlives ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:01:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
when fleet owners sell there old trucks is a good time to get a exspincive truck cheap.
like this company my dad worked for uses 2010 ford f150s in a few years there getting new trucks again. they auction off the old trucks the last time they sold trucks my buddy picked up an 04 that was like new. yea it had 400k miles on it but its fleet they get serviced once a month or more.
plus there cheap as fuck!
chumswithcum ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:52:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having been around guys who drive work trucks, and seeing how they treat those trucks, i tend to avoid fleet trucks like the plague. They're cheap as fuck because they have maybe 10k miles left in them before they throw a connecting rod through the block.
mr42ndstblvdlives ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:40:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
your talking like a song from the lion king stop that!
like a fucking engine is hard to swap or anything haha.
millions of people swap engines everyday you can to no big deal.
chumswithcum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:05:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure man, or you can spend the money from the work truck + New drivetrain you just installed and buy a truck that actually works, and not have to do a drivetrain swap.
It will be a drivetrain swap, too. The transmission won't be far behind the engine in failure since the truck was romped on like it was a sports car.
InsipidCelebrity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eeeeeeh, my work truck technically has some amount of maintenance done to it, but mostly the bare minimum.
The cars that were shared between multiple employees were much worse, though. Those were screaming metal death traps.
Cthulhuman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:51:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend has a 2016 Chevy Spark and she requested them because she's seen too many electric windows break so she prefers the old style roll up windows. You can also roll up your windows when the car is off.
IAmNotNathaniel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. I really like this feature of manual windows.
Also I like being able to just roll the window down an inch or less to get a little circulation. In my stupid van, you touch the thing and it automatically rolls down the entire way, unless you hit the up button. Annoys the hell outta me.
TeamJim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of cars you can roll the windows up and down with the car off until you open the door. Some vehicles (I know VW is one) you can simultaneously roll all of the windows and sunroof open or closed by putting the key in the driver's door, and turning it to lock and holding it to close, or unlock and holding it to open.
ChickenWithATopHat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:47:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And honestly I like them better. They donโt have a motor thatโs gonna break and require you to suction cup your window so it doesnโt fall down.
oO0-__-0Oo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:45:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
quite a few low-end cars do not have motorized windows
_Nicco_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:31:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So many fleet trucks still have roll up windows
DeepSouthTJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure you can get manual windows on every trim with the Jeep Wrangler, except maybe the Sahara. Iโm not even sure if my generation came with power windows, and mines an 06.
TeamJim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No power windows in Wranglers until the JK. I'm pretty sure you can get any trim level wrangler with crank windows still
joey_fatass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brand new base model Chevy Sparks have manual windows and mirrors too
302HO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get a Wrangler Sport with roll-down windows.
Omnifox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much all "Fleet" trucks can be gotten with power nothing.
No power locks, or windows.
OMEGA__AS_FUCK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 2011 Ford, the windows are manual. I prefer that though, less shit to break and have to repair.
I_Like_Buildings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even F-250s and F-350s. My boss's ~2016 F-350 still has manual windows. I think they're more common as fleet vehicles in construction where the company doesn't care at all about the extra comforts, every dollar saved is reason to buy a Truck.
counters14 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:47:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Power windows are still an option in pretty much every model of vehicle I can currently think of.
SonsOfAnarchyMC ยท 341 points ยท Posted at 16:42:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jeep owner here. I roll them up and down every day
Tom_s3rv0 ยท 335 points ยท Posted at 16:54:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Waves while passing
Penny_girl ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:25:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My BF and I both have Wranglers, and he gives me SUCH shit when I miss a wave.
SOMETIMES IโM TOO BUSY NOT KILLING US, LEE.
The_Bald ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:53:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus christ Lee get it together
Omnifox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... Did you die?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:27:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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tylercreatesworlds ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:07:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
must be a jeep thing
The_Bald ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:52:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once saw a total fuck nugget in a silver jeep wrangler drive onto the sidewalk of a street corner so he could yell at the elderly couple in front of him about how "you aren't supposed to go straight in this lane, you're blocking people like me who need to turn" even though this intersection didn't have turn lanes, only 2 lanes going east/west and north/south. He then proceeded to go around the elderly couple's car and merged with the east/west traffic after driving off of the grass/sidewalk.
I think of this man often and how much of a absolute turd that he is and then I think about the kinsmanship I see on the road when two jeep drivers see one another. I think about how I don't think many of them would approve of how he tarnished the Jeep name that day like he no doubtedly does every other day of the year.
This is not a dig on jeep drivers, it's just my observation of how this buttmunch has bought his way into a road club that I do not think actually wants him.
Bionic_Zit-Splitta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was so confused when people kept waving at me when I switched cars for a week with my dad. He had a Jeep.
bandwidthpirate ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:49:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
only recently did i learn how damn slow even the modern jeeps are. walking them in my miata is a guilty pleasure because the only other thing i can do that to is a minivan
ItsLSD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Miata brethren :) Save me from these jeepanderthals
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:49:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also a Jeep owner. Mine slide horizontally
goat_puree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like my slide windows. How quickly they can be opened and, even better, watching people try to figure out how to open them makes up for the fact that they only open half-way.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt mind them. The visibility is kind of a pain sometimes though
goat_puree ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:36:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I notice that the most when I put the top back on and the doors back together. It feels like a cave for just a little bit.
BonkeyKongCountry ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:04:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Used to be zip up/down.
RLMJRJEEP ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:10:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, bought a brand new 97 TJ, soft top with half doors. Zippers for 14 years. Finally traded in for new 13 JK Umlimited with a hard top. I didn't get all fancy with the upgrade; manual windows and locks. ;)
SonsOfAnarchyMC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:05:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, i had those about 5 years ago. Honestly they were easier to get up and down
BonkeyKongCountry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but they sucked when you wanted them anything other than all the way down or up.
SonsOfAnarchyMC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:23:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, or if u wanted them down after it rained and u didnโt have something to dry them off with
BonkeyKongCountry ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:00:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oooh, I forgot about that one. Gotta give it a good punch before you open it and tuck it between you and the seat.
bo14376 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:38:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows on a Jeep? Mine doesn't even have doors
GallifreyanTool ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:58:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at this fancy Jeep driver with windows that go up and down. (โ78 CJ5)
Kylorin113 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:06:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lucky, you have windows
SonsOfAnarchyMC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:07:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well right now the front window is cracked to all hell. Damn vertical windows, why must u look so cool but be totally impractical
hoardac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have plastic zippered windows on my jeep.
NotTheRightAnswer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not cool until you have to open the door to roll the window down because the A-pillar of your roll cage prevents the knob from rotating all the way around. '93 YJ, slightly built.
TheOneTrueTrench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Previous jeep owner here, used to zip them up and down.
Mr_Americas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know if someone's a Jeep owner?
Byaaah1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:42:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually by the fact that they own a Jeep.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Real jeep owners unzip their windows though
/s
parrottail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are your doors on?
SeeYouSpaceCowboy--- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Power windows are literally the only "power" feature on my 95 XJ besides the steering.
I guess I'm living in luxury.
shleppenwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I zip mine.
EvilStevilTheKenevil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well since you can take the doors off (of some Jeeps anyway) it makes sense to not have those wires going from car to door.
Omnifox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean in the winter?
shawn-fff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jeep owner here. But now it's a grand. I miss not having doors sometimes....but then I get on the highway and its just so darn quiet. Also, I'm old now.
mmmmbeeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at Mr Moneybags over here with his full hard doors. How's life up in your Ivory Tower?
SonsOfAnarchyMC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I spent many a year with my old wrangler in college that at zip up windows. Now that graduated i took my spot up on this glorious ivory tower and Iโm not coming down
mmmmbeeer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait a while I kick my 4L into gear, I'll be up there in a few hours.
mikkylock ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:52:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Smart car only has manual windows. :D
VVillyD ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 16:21:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2012 Chevy Silverado work truck has manual windows.
centersolace ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:54:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents 2016 Nissan Sentra has manual windows. And I fucking love them.
VVillyD ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:04:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate my manual windows. I can't roll down the passenger window without stopping, taking off my seatbelt, and leaning way over to reach it.
centersolace ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:23:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love manual windows. If vehicle ownership has taught me anything it's that power windows are the first things to go on any vehicle. Manual windows will outlast power ones always.
That, and I can roll them up and down while the car is off!
I fucking love manual windows.
VVillyD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had power windows go out in any vehicle I've owned. I've seen it in others' vehicles, though.
arcticsandstorm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:09:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like mine because you can roll them up or down without having to turn the car on. Plus it's one less cheap electronic part to break. But you're right, the passenger side window is a pain.
centersolace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahahahhahaha
Myolor ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 15:47:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drive a 2009 Nissan Versa, and I have roller windows, got it during the โcash for clunkersโ government program.... thanks Obama.
Sowhatimdrunk01 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:23:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2012 Nissan Versa: Manual transmission, Manual Windows. The most technologically advanced thing in the car is the air bag system. Do you have issues with your exhaust welds? I noticed my car was LOUD one day so I ended up having to JB weld the fittings on the exhaust pipes. Additionally the skid plate only lasted a year cause I hit a puddle that was up to the bumper and tore all the clips off. had to re-snap the front and rear bumper onto the car. Replaced the clutch after 50k miles. Basically had the worst time with this car so far. I'm at 80K miles now.
triplers120 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf?! Are you secretly driving my car? Exact scenario with my vehicle as well. This vehicle does not do puddles.
Only two things I wish my budget vehicle had:
Sowhatimdrunk01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the trunk. Have to walk outside and use the key to open the trunk
Myolor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I had problems with the exhaust welds, my muffler was left hanging loose some time last year and had to get re-welded on. I have an automatic, currently at 70k miles, still runs great. Do you have ABS? It really sucks in Minnesota not having it.
Sowhatimdrunk01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going to drive the car into the ground
Sonicmansuperb ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:17:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cash for Clunkers was a massive misstep and had a significant negative impact on the lower classes.
Spishal_K ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:48:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reasoning/stats? I never really heard it as being particularly good or bad for the overall economy.
Sonicmansuperb ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:21:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Regardless of the effect on the economy, it incentivized people to destroy vehicles that were capable of being used to commute to jobs that could be afforded by the poor, and ultimately caused a large inflation of cost for the used vehicle market.
Spishal_K ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:23:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stats? It's understandable that a lower supply would lead to inflation but I wanna see the raw numbers.
Sonicmansuperb ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:28:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorzelany/2017/02/24/used-car-buyers-dealers-squeezed-by-a-lack-of-beaters/#337ee8e07118
Spishal_K ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neat, thanks!
Barack_H-Obama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, anytime man.
voteforjello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2015 Nissan Versa has roll down windows. It was the only option if I wanted a manual and I always do.
kdellss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a 2009 vehicle??? With manual windows?? Holy cow
MadamNerd ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:59:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad and his wife recently purchased a 2016 Nissan Versa. Super bare bones: manual transmission, manual locks, and manual windows. But they're happy with it and it was CHEAP for a newer car.
Myolor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep I have manual locks too, mine didnโt even come with a radio, fully wired with speakers but no head unit.
triplers120 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fully wired for front speakers. My 2014 only has speaker sized holes in the rear doors.
voteforjello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I literally paid 16k for my car brand new. I just tell people to lock the doors. It was honestly worth it for me to get a manual transmission. I know it is the price I pay for manual transmissions. They are either is super expensive cars or cheap ones.
pittipat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our 2015 Versa has manual windows...and door locks. Don't mind the windows. the door thing sucks!
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:17:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The mechanism still rolls the window up though
radialhead_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:26:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The funny thing is that this isn't even referring to manual windows, it's referring to wayyyyyyy back when windows were covered in fabric and you would "roll down" the fabric to open the window up.
Drunkintiger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Around 6 weeks ago my 9 year old son was riding in a moving van with me. He asked how to put the window down and I pointed out the rolling mechanism. It was kinda surreal when he said "so that's what that means."
Kondomkalle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used that term to the kids at school (age 6-10). They sat there like question marks wondering what the hell I was talking about.
miracleorange ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My car still has manual windows.
True, my car is older than me because I drive an 87 Volvo, but still.
TeamJim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I briefly had an 86 BMW 325 that had a crank sunroof which was pretty cool
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How else would you say it?
Drunkard_DoE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2017 Jeep Wrangler has hand cranks and I wouldn't have it any other way.
deWaardt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As to people speaking about their modern cars having manual windows, my '97 shitbox Suzuki has electric windows in front AND in back!
Also electric mirrors.
Darkfire25 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My '85 Celica has power windows, power locks, power mirrors, and a power sunroof.
Manual windows should be banned. I can't stand them.
deWaardt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how they're still here. How much more could it cost to put in power windows?
IComplimentVehicles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Power windows are terrible. They don't work half the time, are expensive to replace and they're heavy as well.
nyrol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My fatherโs 1956 thunderbird came stock with power windows. Theyโve been around a while.
TieDyeTilliDyeHigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have manual Windows.. It really sucked when I broke my wrist and had to use the wrong hand to roll it up
HyperboleJoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2013 Kia Rio is all manual. It would supposedly have cost $1500 for the power package. I didnt realize it wasn't standard on all vehicles by then. Saved myself $1500!
Vlarm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Utility" vehicles, such as full size vans, still often have manual windows.
CanadaJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't the mechanism still use rollers? We don't use a hand crank very often anymore, but I think they're still rolling up and down.
Firate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ellen Degeneres has a bit about this in one of her stand ups.
Itโs interesting that we still use the โrollingโ hand gesture when you want someone to lower their carโs window. It would look silly to mimic holding down a button for that request.
adammichaelwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Internally, there is still a spinning mechanism rolling the window up and down.
Lannielief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 2015 peugeot 108 still has roll-up windows. i was shocked, too, when i got it as a lease car from work.
Plettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 07 Dodge Caliber would like a word.
Zchavago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Button down the window.
compwiz1202 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea or the actual pull/push things to lock/unlock the doors.
Luminaria19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband bought a new car a few years ago. Didn't want to pay for all the feature packages the place was pushing. Fully manual window controls and he has to unlock his car using the key instead of a remote!
111uhh1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is turn up/down the window common for anyone else? I don't think we've ever used "roll" as the term here.
_pastandpresent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 2016 Hyundai Accent with roll up windows ๐๐ป
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TeamJim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically they slide
nynedragons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every single damn car Iโve ever had with automatic windows either went out, screwed up on me, or never worked in the first place.
Iโm all for manual windows
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drive a 97 ranger, this applies to me still. My dad's 83 silverado has automatic windows.
Kuli24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely still a thing. 2005 base model matrix here. Rolling windows for extra reliability. :D
Sovann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? What else are we supposed to say in reference to rolling up or down our windows? "Hey Tim, power down your window"??
LedditHiveMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All the windows are still manual on my 2010 carolla
dphizler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My windows are still manual.
Tie_me_off ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, itโs still relevant. My 2012 Econoline work truck still has manual windows.
wardrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, I was actually watching a Christmas Movie the other day from 20+ years ago where they showed a cop rolling down the window in their car. I wonder if kids today even know what the hell they were doing
Skytuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering how old the average car on the road is this term is definitely still used literally.
oO0-__-0Oo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is still quite possible to buy a new car which does not have motorized windows, and therefore requires rolling.
mattwaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what would the alternative even be? just โput the window downโ. itโs not necessarily enough to just say โopen the windowโ because thatโs a different thing.
hmmmm
fishkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These will never go away. Neither will manual door locks. Companies and universities buy them in particular for their vehicle fleets so there is less to break (and then fix) on the car.
bulletv1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 2017 you can still get a Ford Super Duty truck with manually cranked windows. It's a one of the F-250XL chassis cab models. I like calling it my boss is a dick package. No radio, no ac, manual locks, and manual window cranks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it really not "reel"?
hemptations ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i thought this would be the top comment
b3rn13mac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
speak for yourself
gotta have that weight reduction bro
KCarriere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until 2013 I was driving a '94 Civic with manual windows. My nephew got in the car and had absolutely no idea how to open the window. I'm old.
jdehnke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this!! My youngest step brother had no idea how to roll down the window of my 97 jeep, and I was like what?? How do you not know this?!?! He's always had power windows and was confused there was no button. We're 10 years apart.
Darkfire25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I absolutely hate manual windows. Surprisingly, I drive an '85 Celica, but it has power windows.
Who wants to have to reach over to roll up or down the passenger window? Need to roll up your passenger window on the freeway? You technically can, but it's super unsafe. What if you're passing by an area where something smells terrible? What if there is a bunch of a dirt in the air?
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're still selling cars that have manual windows. The Nissan Versa for example.
Pickled_Wizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its just a motor doing the same thing you did with a crank.
FYF69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My truck still has manual windows. Deliberately. Roll-up windows don't break.
Paddywhacker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A motor still rolls like a handle...
NoClueDad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was trying to instruct my son to get the driver next to us to roll down his window. I told him to move his arm like this, and then made it in a circular motion. And he looked confused and asked me "Why would I do that?"
notsolongdong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
09 Silverado WT, still have roll up winders
sipsredpepper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine are all still manual. So are all of my locks.
nc_arklow_branch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A solo commentator on Eurosport was musing about this on Saturday when referring to the arm motion skiers do when they catch some air. He said โif youโre too young to know what means, go ask your mum.โ
Cr4zyCr4ck3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My niece asked me why we say that the other day and I had to explain to her that way back in the 1900's we had to manually roll up the windows with a crank. She called me old :(
shred1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"It was an old limo"
A_Used_American ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a way to make an electric car's windows manual? I'd prefer those in the off case I am ever submerged in some river or pond somewhere.
wolfygirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine zip.
Ninonskio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not dead yet bud, give er another go.
rennez77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend bought a 2015 car that has manual windows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Elbow grease still operates my '08 accent's windows
TheRealClose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve never heard anyone say this in a car with electric windows.
Omni33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still roll mine up and down, while making the bzzzz with my mouth
silk_mitts_top_titts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid and learned how to ice skate we called that arm motion when you were falling and waiving your arms around in a circle "rolling down the windows". Now that I'm older and I use that phrase the young guys on my hockey team don't get it.
mikedufty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid it was really exciting when we got to ride in a car with electric windows. My kids get excited when they find themselves in one with manual winders.
The_Quibbler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you have power windows, I imagine there has to be an actuall mechanical wheel in there somewhere...
Real_Srossics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one sees that though unless youโre the manufacturer or a mechanic.
The_Quibbler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
welp. It's still rolling, is it not?
Jazz_Musician ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drive a 1996 Chevy S10, it has manual windows lol
FrauAway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OH LOOK GUYS WE GOT A FUCKIN ARISTOCRAT IN OUR MIDST
HilariousSpill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I ever bought a new car I would insist on manual windows if I could get them. I've never had a car with electric windows where at least one didn't go bad and I've never seen a manual window fail yet.
NoBeanBean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bought a 2015 Nissan two weekes ago that has windows that you need to roll up and down by hand
Likealittleteapot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My car is 18 years old and has wind up/down windows. I showed my friendโs kids and they were puzzled.
suaveknight ยท 988 points ยท Posted at 19:21:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Referring to song as "tracks." In the vinyl record days, songs were literally recorded on tracks (grooves) in the surface of the record.
anna_or_elsa ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 21:00:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going way back with albums I don't recall a lot of people calling songs tracks. I think it's more likely it came from the usage of the word in recording studios and eventually carried over.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multitrack_recording
do_not_spit ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:29:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Track" makes more sense coming from a tape background using trains as an analogy. I'm imagining the rollers and head of the playback machine as the "track" and the tape as the train. I have absolutely no basis for this comment though, just a thought.
MeEvilBob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more about where on the width of the tape the data is recorded. On a standard audio cassette there are 4 tracks each taking up a quarter of the width of the tape. Two of the tracks are the left and right audio and the other two are left and right for the other side. A 4 track cassette recorder (used for audio mixing) simply uses all 4 tracks as mono audio tracks, thus these cassettes are considered one sided despite being no different than any other audio cassette.
do_not_spit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should have actually written "recording" head instead of playback head, also I was referencing reel to reel tape recording in multitrack productions as opposed to a standard cassette tape.
MeEvilBob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:17:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It works the same way, cassette tape is a bit narrower than the standard 8mm reel to reel tape, but if it's stereo there's still at least 2 tracks.
They went with a cassette for production because they figured that most people (of which I am not) wouldn't enjoy threading the tape through the machine like I do.
Since we're on the subject and I'm drunk and love this kind of stuff, a VHS tape has 4 tracks, 2 for left/right audio, one wide one for the video, then a control track to tell the VCR how much time is left until the end.
On 35mm projection film, there's the image frames that take up the majority of the width of the film, but then there's the optical audio tracks along the edge which appear as waveforms, basically these waveforms define how hard the amplifier needs to push on the speakers. In this case, the waveforms also contain digital data to be processed by a Dolby or THX receiver for surround sound.
In IMAX there are no audio tracks on the film because the audio runs off a computer synced to the frame count from the projector. Before the computer system they used a 35mm reel to reel tape with 6 tracks, one for each speaker, front left, front right, rear left, rear right, center front and center front top (above the regular center speaker). The sub-bass is between the two center speakers and is driven by a mix from all 6 channels. The computer system (called DTAC for Digital Theater Audio Control) drove the system the same way as the tape with 6 separate WAV files playing simultaniously.
Modern IMAX systems are 100% digital with no film likely use a proprietary audio system that I know nothing about but assume is similar, but the old school system is still found in some museum theaters which have yet to go digital, such as the dome at the Mugar Omni Theater at the Museum of Science in Boston.
do_not_spit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what we really need to determine is if the term "track" was being used widely during the decades of mono leading up to the introduction of stereo recordings.
MeEvilBob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term predates magnetic tape and comes from the grooves on a record, as someone else already said.
dotlinefever3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:41:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
when i was doing college radio, frequently played songs and commercials were recorded onto 8 track cartridges and played thru a tape deck built into the mixing board.
wildgift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were probably mono carts. Similar to 8-track cartridges, except they had only one or two audio tracks, and another track with a tone to indicate the end of the audio. That way, you could queue up multiple carts and run them in sequence.
dotlinefever3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we had a combo of mono and 8s.
commercials,psa's station IDs on the eight tracks, music on the mono's.
wildgift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:35 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Music on the monos?
dotlinefever3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:41 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah.
we had single track cartridges.
dont ask me how they worked. All i did was stick them in and hit play.
anna_or_elsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good theory as to why they called it a track.
rujinoblr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely Anna
Hexxman007 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:43:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
youre right now calling them CUTS was definitely due to the cuts in the vinyl. but tracks came from the studio track recording and artists going in to lay down a track.
piss_n_boots ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to beg to disagree strongly. While technically there's only one 'track' on an LP record, if you look at the surface, individual numbers were laid out in "visual" tracks in order to let users choose where to drop the needle -- which track they wanted to play. see image here if you (or any reader) has never really contemplated playing vinyl.
Techwood111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was seriously common DJ talk, though. I'd bet anyone listening to Casey Kasem on satellite radio these days can still hear him say "this is the latest hot track from the Thriller album" or something like that.
MonsterAtEndOfBook ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:34:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. A record only has two tracks - side a and b.
Defavlt ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:47:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is today, still.
JaxxisR ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:01:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if youโre really cool, like us. :)
KZedUK ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:39:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly LP, EP and Single.
Purplociraptor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:36:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Magnetic tape also has parallel tracks. Cassette tapes have four tracks, two for stereo channels on side one and two for stereo channels on side two. You can also use all four tracks in the same direction to record four different mono sources concurrently for mixing later.
Just imaging the possibilities if there were 8-tracks.
sovamind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also when magnetic tape technology advanced to be able to record multiple lines of data onto a single tape, each line was called tracks, called multi-track recording. In some uses each track would contain a separate song/recording and the tape would be used one direction, then reversed for the next song/recording, then continue until out of songs/tracks. When CDs arrived you could instantly jump to individual songs and they kept the term track to differentiate because each track wasn't necessarily a song.
Another later use was to record multiple instruments or microphones on each of the tracks. This could be done simultaneously or have each track done one at a time. This allowed bands or performances to do each part separately and then combined later. This allowed the ability to record songs without all the performers in the same place for a single performance and revolutionized the recording industry. You could also have each part recorded over and over and then select the best one, "taking" if for the final song to be "mixed" on the mixing consoles. We still refer to "takes" and "mixes" today.
maybelying ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:36:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything went downhill once we moved away from 8-track cartridges.
do_not_spit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:24:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They used to refer to this as "cutting a side" because the grooves were literally being cut and you only had enough time on one "side" for a single song (5 mins on a 78? Don't remember)
suaveknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're thinking of a 45 - it held just enough for one pop song. I presume that's why most singles are 3-4 minutes long, even today.
doglks ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:30:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This also has an origin in dance music. When house music was just getting started the songs were referred to as "tracks" because the stripped down nature of the music meant they weren't initially seen as full songs.
LochnessDigital ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure it didn't come from multi-track tape recording?
the_short_viking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:53:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vinyl records have made a massive comeback.
the_television ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still are on CDs
collin-h ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same could be said about "tune" or "tunes" as in iTunes.
Shoenbreaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Laying down some sick bits" or "Check out these hot new 1s and 0s" just doesn't have the same ring to it though.
GnarlsGnarlington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly, there is only ONE track (groove) on a vinyl record.
lachlanhunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CDs, DVDs, Blu-ray and magnetic hard drives all have tracks. Any media with a spinning disk needs to have them.
spunkyenigma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with CDs sort of
CptBrian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These days people just call all music "songs" even when there aren't any lyrics or vocals... they need that to be a "song."
schnoibie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:26:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is also where we get "In a groove" from, as when you were recording, the cutting head was literally in a groove on the record.
Hexxman007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think youre confusing that with in the groove.
schnoibie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Semantics.
_gnasty_ ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 22:01:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With my hipster roommates it still is vinyl record days lol
KZedUK ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:38:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't think that Vinyl is an obscure thing, It's not. It's the primary physical music format now.
Nakatomi2010 ยท 1099 points ยท Posted at 16:34:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drive a Nissan Leaf and talk about how much fuel I still have in the "tank". Battery gauge says 50%? I have a half tank. 75%? 3/4 of a tank.
Slowly trying to change my phrasing to "half a charge" and such.
busty_cannibal ยท 434 points ยท Posted at 17:40:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like this one. Sounds like something kids will make fun of us for in 50 years.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:21:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or they'll just keep tank terms and never really think about it until someone points it out on reddit in 2064
recoculatedspline ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:41:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt they'll use reddit. That will be what old people use
MattcVI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:42 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They'll be back on Digg
Nakatomi2010 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:02:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just find it easier to run with. Makes me giggle a bit too.
pjjmd ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:00:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah kids, yuck it up, grandpa talks about his battery as if it's a bladder filled with concentrated dino juice.
jfarrar19 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:28:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then we explain that we controlled vehicles that were powered by fucking explosions
g0atmeal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be very happy if it only took 50 years.
HamDenNye86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:17:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids should already now be making fun of the Nissan Leaf.
SpookyAdolf44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugliest road car 2016
FelixJamesAKAFeeJay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:23:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If Megaman taught me anything, it's that you always want to have a few spare energy tanks handy for when you get dangerously low.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:07:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get off my digital lawn you punk kids.
Dirty_Old_Town ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like ten years.
mennydrives ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:29:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does that turn "running on fumes" into "running on sparks"?
(heard it on Ride the Lightning)
Nakatomi2010 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:32:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Valid point. I try not to get that low on battery myself to be honest. Lowest I've gone is about 15%
OutsmartBullet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:06:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the driving equivalent of a Sonic water level
Techwood111 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:32:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coward! :)
I have a 2011 with a degraded battery. 15% is, like, half my range :)
ThePortalsOfFrenzy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:33:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not familiar with that particular lyric on Ride the Lightning.
mennydrives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The podcast actually started by using brief Metallica snippets for the transition tunes. I think Ryan's removed them all, though.
scyth3s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Batteries release fumes...
Thealphastab ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:36:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say "put it in sixth" to refer to giving something full effort, manuals are still around but one day that'll sound archaic and make no sense.
Nakatomi2010 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:49:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially in relation to electric cars since they have no gears.
meneldal2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:57:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? It seems highly inefficient. Electrical motors still have speed ranges where they are most efficient, so it would make sense to use those. Especially when the variation can be quite big.
skippygo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's interesting... not that I've never heard that phrase, but to me it seems like would make more sense to be "put it in first".
Thealphastab ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:07:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the idea is that 6th gear is your highest gear, which you do at your highest speed I guess? I've heard put it in first to refer to getting started doing something.
jfb1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manuals are common in the UK but I've never seen one with a 6th gear
Thealphastab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
6 gears is generally for higher performance cars
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the backwards gear. It actually means running away.
Lizardrevenge ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:18:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, it she's still run on fuel, just that the fuel is stored as an electric charge rather than a carbon-based liquid.
Nakatomi2010 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:23:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why I keep referring to it as fuel
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you can't store an electric charge in a tank!
Lizardrevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what you say. Give those weapons designers a few years...
I for one am down with making our kill-machines more Eco friendly
MissThystle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:39:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. It doesn't help that the charge icon and the charge points resemble (though passingly) an old fashioned gas pump.
Nakatomi2010 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:03:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure that's an intentional design choice so people can adjust to the the idea of "Hey, this is your fuel level, and furl port location".
Every now and then someone strike up a conversation with me at the charger. Which I occasionally refer to as a pump.
Techwood111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Electron pump. I'll allow it.
cancerousiguana ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:01:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm under a quarter tank, better be gentle on the gas pedal
Nakatomi2010 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah, yeah, this is a fun one. So counter intuitive. "Shit, I need to slow down or I won't reach my destination"
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it really? Most people can walk casually 5 miles in a day. Many will start throwing up if you try to make them run 5 miles without a rest.
The_MAZZTer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:41:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am going to try and remember to say my phone has "half a tank" to see what sort of reaction I get.
killjah ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:12:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what do they call the accelerator in those? is it a gas pedal or a electric pedal?
PM_ME_YOUR_BIG_LOAD ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:16:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The accelerator.
Techwood111 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:33:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rekt
Nakatomi2010 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:26:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eventually I see these people just calling the gas pedal an Accelerator. Honestly hadn't occurred to me until just now, lol.
Can't give it more gas! Though, I can give it more power. ;)
ALL POWER TO THE ENGINES!
Hehe
killjah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ok, so its still an engine? i thought they were called motors in electric vehicles
to the future!
Techwood111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Engine" is a term that basically means "machine." Think of siege engines, for instance.
Techwood111 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:35:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The brake pedal is also an accelerator pedal. Hell, the steering wheel is an accelerator, too.
MarlinMr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:31:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You realise you are going back to the original term? A battery is a unit of artillery firing units. It has x amount of charge. That is where the electric battery got its words from.
SheeEttin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A battery is any ordered grouping of things, e.g. a test battery. Electric batteries are just a battery of electrolytic cells.
l5555l ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not just say it's 50% battery? Like we do with phones and other devices.
Nakatomi2010 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:24:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cause it's a car, and batteries aren't common in a car.
And after driving a car for over half my life (Shit, I'm old), some habits are hard to break.
Hell, most people I talk to about my Leaf don't realize there's no gas engine. Batteries run dry and I'm stranded.
But, the office Thanksgiving dinner was near a BMW dealer, so I got 30% of my charge back while we ate, so that was nice.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:14:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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jokel7557 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:37:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
old style crank ups.
TonyHoyle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly I've heard people referring to the accelerator as a 'gas pedal'. No gas involved (doubly wierd in the UK as 'gas' means literally gas.. we don't use the term for petrol).
OlafForkbeard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I got a half tank of juice left." is a way to imply you know it's new, but use the old on purpose.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:23:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Fuel reserves are at 50%"
Talk like you're on the bridge of a starship, with your fancy pants space age vehicle
Nakatomi2010 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:00:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah. Nice one.
HoNose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I need to gas-up my car. I mean Gauss-up."
Tommy84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still refer to "topping up" or "topping off" the battery.
It has a "push button ignition", even though nothing ignites.
Nakatomi2010 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I generally just describe my car as a big laptop on wheels. Made a Nissan salesman chuckle one time, cause that's basically what it is.
Push button ignition is just the push button power on found on laptops.
Techwood111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love when new EV drivers get in my Leaf and hold the button in, as they wait for the "wrer-wrer-wrer-wrer" noise.
ukiyoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In an alternate reality, we'd have fuel tanks in our gadgets.
Nakatomi2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad this never happened, lol
fondupot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shouldnโt be that hard. How do you refer to your phone battery? Most likely In percents. Just use percents
Nakatomi2010 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still trips people up. It's about people's interpretation of things. If I tell someone my car is at 67%, they're going to think I have a weird way of tracking fuel use. Might even ask me how I know it so precisely.
If I say I have two thirds if a tank, I don't get follow up questions, it's just generally understand that I have two thirds of travel distance remaining.
TheFallenMessiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tell them how many miles of charge, or drive, I have.
fondupot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean electric cars are not that abstract anymore. If you say I have 67% battery left on my electric car. I think most people will put it together.
thats_handy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would stick with it. That way, weโll have another archaic idiom in the future.
ahecht ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget about your Leaf's "gas pedal".
marishtar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I wouldn't even know what to call it, if I had a car like that. Both sound wrong.
Jeremy1026 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm good with talking in terms of charge, but I still say gas peddle when in conversation.
darkharbor726 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hippie
CalcProgrammer1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a Volt so I say charge for the battery and tank for the gas (since it does both). However, I still refer to the accelerator pedal as "the gas" even when it's on electric only power.
Laserdollarz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been calling gas "juice" for years, I'm excited it could catch on.
Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How long does a tank last?
Nakatomi2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About a 100 miles at 70mph. I can go further if I go slower.
Battery will degrade over time as well, so that range drops a bit as time goes on.
Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why dont you just get a gas powered car then? You live where gas is expensive? Or does it make you feel better about not polluting?
Nakatomi2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife drives a van, so if I need to go far, then we use that. This car is a commuter car. I put a solar array on my roof and reduced my commute fuel costs from a $100 gas bill to an extra 500kWh a month, which equates to about $17 more on my power bill.
The Leaf has a Quick charge port, which gets me 80% of battery in about 30 minutes. Had one get me from 30% to 99% in about 25 minutes.
So, I just add time to longer trips. Charging is free in some areas too, so you save there.
I can get from Tampa to Port Canaveral and only stop to charge twice. Adds an extra hour to the trip, but it let's me stretch my legs and such.
I have no issues with this. But 90% if the car's driving is a single 30 mile, round trip, commute back and forth to my office at sub 60mph speeds.
Leaf also has an 8 year battery warranty, so if the battery drop below 60% of its original capacity I get a new one.
Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense then.
How common are charging stations around the country?
Nakatomi2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:40 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It depends, and it varies. The best source for charging information is Plugshare.com.
But it also depends on the vehicle you own. Teslas, for instance, use Superchargers, and are unique to Tesla. They will work with other chargers, but you need to get an adapter. They have the most compatibility though, technically, once you get the adapter in place.
Other EVs all have J1772 connectors on them, at the very least. J1772 is used for Level 1 and level 2 charging. Level 1 charging is at 120v and charges at 6 miles an hour, while level 2 charging is at 240v and charges at 20 miles an hour.
Then we move on to CHAdeMO and Combined Charging System (CCS). CCS is also referred to as the "Franken plug" as it combines J1772 with DC fast charging. These two standards will charge a vehicle up to 80% in about 30 minutes. But, they're unique to certain vendors. Chevy, for instance, uses CCS on their Bolts, while Nissan Leafs use CHAdeMO.
Now, "How common are charging stations around the country?"
Depends on the type of charging your trying to use. J1772 level 2 charging is what most places put in place, and is relatively common. Tesla's superchargers exist about an average of 100 miles apart. CHAdeMO and CCS chargers are less common, with CCS being the super uncommon ones.
I cannot drive my Nissan Leaf north of Gainesville, or south of Naples, at best. I could conceivable get to Miami, but it'd be a hell of a trip, on back roads at sub 60 miles an hour speeds.
So, "it varies" is the best answer. If you're not buying a Tesla, you're buying an EV with limited range, not because of the batter, but because of the charging infrastructure, which is really where Tesla shines. But, Tesla's chargers only work for Teslas. My Leaf can't use them, sadly.
plugshare.com is really the best resource for where chargers are though. Some areas are barren, while others are not.
Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:51 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you do this to yourself? Is it because gas is too expensive, or do you just feel better about helping the environment?
Nakatomi2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:08 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't drive long distances in the car to begin with. I have owned it since March and had no reason to go beyond Port Canaveral. And that was a fun road trip. Hell, when I stopped to charge at a Nissan dealership, they were selling someone a Leaf and brought me in on the sale as an owner of Leaf. Was fun. Got to speak to the positives of the car and help a sale.
But, yeah. I haven't had a reason to go far. And if I do, just rent a car with the
And it sounds complicated, but I just keep an eye out for J1772 connectors or CHAdeMOs. My biggest challenge will start next month. For three months my commute will be 60-80 miles a day, which will tax my Leaf's range. I have a plan, but it'll chew up some time. But it's temporary, so it won't be an issue for long.
It's a fun car to drive too. And it was cheap. Got it for 15k, used, with 91 miles on it.
TheFallenMessiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I've been driving a Leaf for a few years, I've gotten into the habit of telling people so they understand when I can't go somewhere because I "don't have enough charge" to get there and back, or I have to charge my car for a couple hours, etc. I also say accelerator rather than gas pedal. I've pretty much moved on from gas/fuel and mechanical terms. I just make sure everyone knows my driving situation. Of course, living in the Midwest, my friends frequently tease me about driving a "glorified golf car," but then I remind them I drive for free and win that discussion.
madepopular ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:20:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐ผ me too!
life_is_just_peachy ยท 689 points ยท Posted at 17:27:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but a sound. The camera shutter. smartphones obviously don't have them but we all sure as hell understand what the sound is. (I am aware DSLR's etc and old cameras still exist, but majority of everyday people probably wont use them or not straight away)
xanaxhelps ยท 242 points ยท Posted at 20:58:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had someone at a wedding reception ask me to turn the "sound" off on my DSLR. I then had to explain how a camera works to them. Also, it was the fucking reception. Go somewhere else if I'm annoying you.
csl512 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:50:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Silent'/quiet shutter is pretty great for the ceremony. Shutter lag is a bit longer, IIRC.
Lazerlord10 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:13:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still pretty loud on my camera.
Sometimes I use the slight lag to remove the shake from pressing the button, though!
csl512 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:33:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which camera?
Also do remember that your ears are much closer to the camera, and sound drops off with the square of distance.
Lazerlord10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true, it only seems to get rid of the clacking, but that is what travels.
D3200, btw. Was great for the price.
GrandHunterMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a D3400, not a professional camera by any means, but it allows me to turn the sound off.
csl512 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:51:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more that it actuates the mirror so it doesn't slap so loudly.
I'm pleasantly surprised that Nikon brought that feature through the product line.
yourdamncroissants ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:15:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The version of this on their FX cameras is really convenient. Press shutter down to snap the photo (quieter than usual), then move away to a safe place before releasing to slide the shutter and mirror back to the starting position.
Juniebug9 ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 18:24:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar: "Snap" a photo.
OMG__Ponies ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:54:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention a photo isn't a photograph - a physical picture on film. At best now it is a digital image in memory or up "in the cloud" these days.
wafflepouch ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:31:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A digital photograph is still a photograph.
MotherFuckin-Oedipus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:19:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whether it's reflecting light off of different inks or displaying a combination of millions of colors on a screen, I think it still works.
ArmyOfMemes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar: โChatโ a text
Jess_than_three ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Snapshots. Hell, screenshots! There's nothing being "shot" there (and no screens are involved in monitor anyway!).
zerobeat ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 19:44:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many of the artificial shutter sounds still contain the shutter and the automatic film advance motor sound!
MattieShoes ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:48:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naw, not the film advance sound...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y&t=1m53s
Just the shutter sound.
LochnessDigital ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:25:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The iPhone shutter noise has the motor drive sound.
domromer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly enough the iPhone shutter noise is just reusing the sound designed by Jim Reekes for Mac computersโ screenshot function. I heard him interviewed on a podcast recently saying how weird it was to constantly hear this piece of work of his (carefully recorded from a real camera back in the day) out in the wild.
This is the podcast if anyoneโs interested:
https://www.20k.org/episodes/letitbeep
zerobeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't watch the whole thing, did you?
wedontlikespaces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No their point is that camera shutter is a different "song" from the one with the film advance.
Heroicis ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 21:13:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not-so-fun fact: In Japan, iPhones and most smartphones do not allow you to turn off the shutter sound while taking a picture, in order to deter unwarranted up-skirt photography.
murfflemethis ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:15:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to mention that too. But apparently it's not a law, as many people think - just a convention agreed upon by the manufacturers.
bolotieshark ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:00:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Less manufacturers and more telecoms that sell the phones. You can get same model phones that have the option, or flash to international firmware and get the option back on a lot of phones sold by Japanese telecoms.
SmokePot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoโs got two thumbs and a ticket to ups kit photography town? This guy!
life_is_just_peachy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:15:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well thatโs a big messed up..
jokel7557 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:35:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so do you think its a bit messed up or a big mess up?
MyHatIsAPigeon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:38:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly.
life_is_just_peachy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bit but thank you, was sneaking reddit in a meeting...
MyHatIsAPigeon ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:38:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. It's my phone and I'll do what I want with it.
CorruptMilkshake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's like that in a lot of places.
maybelying ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That became a thing in Japan just shortly after cell phones with cameras hit the market. People were perving long before the iPhone et al.
idosillythings ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:27:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the digital shutter sound. I've never heard a camera make that high pitched obnoxious sound.
Johny_McJonstien ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:31:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Japan itโs impossible to mute the sound due to peoples misuse of phone cameras on trains and the like.
wedontlikespaces ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am pretty sure that it is not limited to Japan though.
Muffin278 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Korea too
LochnessDigital ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That just tells me you never had a film camera with a motor drive.
idosillythings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have, and I recognize that sound. But I'm talking about different sound.
NeverCast ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:08:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When digital cameras first came out, they didn't have this shutter sound (duh). People didn't like it, "How do I know if it captured the photo on film?"... so the digital shutter sound was born.
MyHatIsAPigeon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:40:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It didn't.
On a related and slightly less dickish note, I have a fond memory of when someone gave a presentation at school on analog photography. He started by asking if anybody knows what analog photography means, and someone yelled "Old photography".
desertsidewalks ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:19:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FYI: many digital cameras still have a mechanical shutter. https://www.slrlounge.com/electronic-shutter-vs-mechanical-shutter-pros-cons/
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:32:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think they're confusing mirror slap and shutters. It still amazes me that we haven't really found a better way to properly expose a digital sensor than with a mechanical shutter, but we haven't!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mirrorless cameras have been making their way into the high end camera market as of recent. From what I gather, they're pricier than a comparable DSLR though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, they're not necessarily more expensive, and some like the Sony A7R have excellent image quality.
It's the way forwards, but there are some kinks and ergonomics still to work out. For some styles of photography plus for nostalgia and familiarises sake the DSLR still has its place.
But even mirrorless cameras have mechanical shutters!
JuDGe3690 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, the lack of an optical viewfinder on a mirrorless means battery life tends to be worse than with a DSLR.
LochnessDigital ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An electronic global shutter would be the answer.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:38:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but for some reason no camera I know of uses that.
LochnessDigital ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:53:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Design limitations, really. It's something we're hoping becomes more common in the film industry. Most digital cinema cameras employ a rolling shutter and the motion doesn't look quite right unless the scan-rate is fast enough.
My stills camera actually has a silent electronic shutter mode that also employs a rolling shutter. It can be incredibly useful for dead-silent moments, but if there's any fast motion in frame it gets all wonky.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:54:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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angruss ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:54:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My s6 had that. It's a broken mechanical auto focus. Samsung fixed it under warranty.
beedawg85 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:28:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The (often non-functional) imitation or inclusion of features from older technology within newer forms is known as skeuomorphism. The sound of a shutter clicking on a digital camera is a great example.
Fordyce_Poons ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hate that sound on a phone.
bobbfwed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny story: I was at Hearst Castle taking photos with my DLSR. Someone on the tour with us, in all sincerity, commented on how realistic the shutter sounded on my camera.
I tried to explain it was actually making that sound, but it was lost on him that it was a mechanical sound, rather than an artificial one. I was very surprised by the comment, so I probably wasn't as articulate as I could have been. Even so, it's not even like he was a young kid. This was probably about 10 years ago, and he was likely in his thirties.
macgilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smartphones have the clicker sound by law here in Korea (and Japan I think), to prevent pervs taking upskirt photos. Classy
SilentRaindrops ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:27:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In some countries, it is required that the cell phone camera has an audible shutter sound to help prevent people being unknowingly filmed such as up-skirt pics.
Extempo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Due to an epidemic of upskirt photography in the early days of cellphone cameras, that shutter sound was made mandatory by law in Japan. Fear of getting caught slowed things down for an hour or two
restlessmonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You would like this episode of Twenty Thousand Hertz:
http://traffic.megaphone.fm/TTH2577630495.mp3
akuzin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah they there to make a noise so that those gross upskirt shots are notices by the victim.
KittyChimera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My smart phone came the camera shutter sound turned on.
SLUnatic85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true for most button pushes gone digital/touchscreen. We still need some sort of fake sound or feedback to know that we actually pushed it. It still makes me chuckle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I notice that most generic photo sound effects include not only the click of the shudder, but the brief whine of the film being rolled forward in an automatic camera.
KingTalkieTiki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is like the ATM sound
downquarks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reminds me of that record scratch sound that's used in TV shows and movies for comedic effect or to stop time for a narrator
meiyoumayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that at least in Korea, phone cameras are required to make the shutter sound when they take a photo and you can't disable it, as a way to deter upskirt photos/creepshots.
Likesorangejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the experiment where electric cars were to eery so manufacturers played car noises out of the stereo to make people more comfortable
anotherkeebler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those fake sounds are showing up everywhere. Fancier modern cars play a turn signal sound then you use the signals. In reality they make no noise at all, but they want drivers to know theyโre in use.
PM_ME_YOUR_TATTOO ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:21:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can make DSLRs silent. They don't need to make the shutter noise.
Source: Am professional photog.
life_is_just_peachy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even ones like canon mark 1d? I always thought theirs was mechanical
orlet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 750D is still quite audible even in "silent shutter" mode. All it does, really, is separate the mirror flip-up and shutter activation in time and flips the mirror slower, resulting in longer but quieter activation sound. Still fairly easy to hear.
PM_ME_YOUR_TATTOO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't personally used a 1d Mk ___, but I shoot with 7D, 70D, and 5D mkiv, and you can silence the cameras. They're mechanical, but you have the option to silence.
life_is_just_peachy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've used a friends 1D who is also professional, but never noticed the silencer. As someone that's used up to a 70D I'm very jealous of your 5D mk iv.
PM_ME_YOUR_TATTOO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 5D is my baaaaaby. hahah Plus full frame is where it's at!
life_is_just_peachy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I saw the zoom on that and I was somewhat creeped out, but also like holy shit. I can imagine that itโs a professional photographers dream. And unlike 1D itโs actually possible to carry normally.
archlaw007 ยท 1298 points ยท Posted at 16:25:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Driver. Itโs used when you operate a car, but the term comes from controlling live stock, like being on a cattle drive. Horse drawn carriages had a driver that drove the horse to where they wanted to go. We really only operate vehicles now but the term driver has stuck around for a century past its core relevance.
themuffinmann82 ยท 534 points ยท Posted at 17:30:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A car is just a mechanical horse built by a committee
0x564A00 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:34:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The car has no future, I'm believing in horses. ("Das Auto hat keine Zukunft, ich setze aufs Pferd."-Wilhelm II)
Veylon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:58:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The very moment that he said that, fate set into motion a scheme by which his plans were thwarted by taxi cabs.
Chazzysnax ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:16:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So a mechanical camel then. A mecamel, if you will. A mechamical.
themuffinmann82 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:22:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That works
ThatLexxyFellow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks ants. Thants.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you don't have to feed them as often, but their excretement is much worse.
blackhawksaber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not a committee!
Arod3235 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to say I agree
few23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thirty Helens Agree
firmly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And we still say โhorsepowerโ, which was a convenient conversion factor for marketing the โhorseless carriageโ to those coming from an, umm, horseful carriage and were used to having say 2 or 4 horses worth of power.
LotusPrince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of, it's still measured in horsepower.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With the power of multiple horses.
Scruffylugs ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 18:11:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't the word based on the verb 'to drive' which means to urge something, generally with a force involved. It's core relevance is just as valid for driving cattle as it is for driving cars, or driving screws.
jeegte12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:37:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you don't drive a car anymore than you drive a computer. there is simple mechanical input, no force or coercion required. you don't drive screws, you operate a screwdriver, which drives screws.
MsLotusLane ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:47:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But if I operate a screwdriver, you could say I'm a screwdriver driver. Then you could say my boyfriend is going to screw a screwdriver driver. Now if he's going to have a dom tell him how to fuck me, that person would be a screwer driver driving a screwer screwing a screwdriver driver.
pyreon ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:59:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/wordavalanches
MsLotusLane ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:09:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ooooh...
themuffinmann82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:42 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brilliant! Discombobulating but still brilliant. Where you in the committee that I speak of?
MsLotusLane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:31 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you asking if I design/make cars?
random_fucktuation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call using the computer driving. Like when I'm playing a single player game with a friend and I want to trade off the controls, I'll say "do you want to drive for a bit?"
jeegte12 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's clearly a joke
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:02:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Jess_than_three ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:26:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you urging your car, really? Does it have its own volition?
Autoradiograph ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:31:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The steering wheel used to be called the whip.
SheezusCrites ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:01:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the brakes used to be called the "neigh neigh".
basher09 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:31:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I watch as you steer and brake your car?
themuffinmann82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:00 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the clutch used to be called the"am going to dig my sharp Spurs into your side" The gear box was voice activated"haiyahhh"
PMMeUrHopesNDreams ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:16:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and that's why you can ghost-ride your whip
whirlpool138 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:20:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is kinda more complicated then that. Look at the German words for drive; fahrt, gefahren, auto fahren and so on. It doesn't just mean drive in the sense that you are driving a car, but more along the terms of to lead, propel, ride or move.
Then take a look at a closely related word, fuhrer, like as in Adolf Hitler was the Fuhrer of Nazi Germany. A lot of people just think that this was the term for dictator or tyrant but it actually has more to it. By calling Hitler the Fuhrer, it was almost like literally calling him the driver or moving force behind the country.
I may be a little off on it, but this is how it was explained in my German language courses. The English word driver works in a lot of the same ways and can be applied to more than just "driving a car". You can have a driver for your computer, you can be far beyond driven, you can drive a nail into a board. It works in a lot of the same ways.
pHScale ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:27:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hehe, "fahrt"
wannabesq ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:38:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not driving I'm traveling!
toeonly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:53:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit you said the magic words I will now tear up this ticket and let you speed along in your uninsured unlicensed private coach.
eclecticness ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:24:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but hopping in a car real fast and screaming "Operate!!" just isn't as fun..
Suspense6 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:41:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drivers have also become software components that control hardware devices.
Maxxonry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This gives new meaning to "Baby Driver."
yzRPhu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The drivetrain or the part that DRIVES the wheel
Thebatmann58 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The different hardware Components of your Computer are controlled by software called drivers.
hootyhalla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda like the Teamsters Union. They still exist, even though we don't drive teams of horses anymore and they're all truckers.
adviceKiwi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drivers for your computer?
hallettj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I speculated that that etymology explains why we don't "drive" aircraft, and u/MusicalBlockMadness sent me this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Finnish-horses-tow-bristolblenheim-winterwar.png
Iume ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought someone who drove cattle was a drover and not a driver?
Someoneoldbutnew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The livestock metaphor is an apt one.
TheCatWantsOut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And we still use teamster even though nobody has transported goods with a team of horses in a century
Hexxman007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sounds like a drover
Armadyllo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Admittedly the only 'knowledge' I have of this is from the Hugh Jackman movie 'Australia', but in that movie they call people who drove cattle 'drovers' because the drove the cattle from one place to another. Do you know how this changed to driver/how driver changed to drover?
TheyCallMeStone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the Teamsters union, which now includes a lot of professions, was originally teamsters/truck drivers. They're known as teamsters because they used to drive teams of horses.
Mutoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also for that matter, "pull" in reference to moving a car in or out of a particular spot
civex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drover.
FrauAway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i still beat my car with a switch to make it go
HeirOfHouseReyne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likewise, but perhaps less used in the English language than it is French and Dutch, is 'chauffeur'. It's now used for someone who drives a car but also originated from the time the chauffeur ("the heater") had to manually warm up the car engine before you could drive it.
thegreengumball ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:13:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To add to that calling out "shut gun" today to clam the front seat. Comes from the man next to the driver who actually carried a shot gun. For robbers and bears and other unforeseeable danger. But mostly for native Americans.
d_r_a_p_p_l_e ยท 669 points ยท Posted at 17:37:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and paste. From back when we physically cut up paper with text on it and glued it back down in a new place. Page layout used to be much harder!
MuseHill ยท 178 points ยท Posted at 19:29:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly "clipart" refers to the drawings that came in a book of full of stock images. You'd "clip" them out of the book (cut them out with scissors) and place them onto a page.
theSchmoozer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:20:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even more similarly, 'lightbox' was an actual box of light that illuminated things (usually photos but also sometimes print layout compositions for magazines) from behind.
graptemys ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:45:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I started in newspapers in the mid 90s we were still doing actual cut and paste. When we switched to desktop publishing several of the older editors said, "Yeah, I'm just gonna retire..."
martysthreegirls ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:09:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the mid 90s? I still had to cut and past in the mid 00s.
sufjams ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:10:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. It was fun, actually.
martysthreegirls ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have my roller and xacto handle. I miss the hot wax burns. sometimes.
sufjams ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:18:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked for a small paper, maybe 8000 circulation that reported a few isolated towns. They had their old printing press in the back garage, super cool.
One cool thing about cutting and pasting was everyone involved with editing could draft the layout throughout the week. I miss seeing the paper come together on the wall.
martysthreegirls ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:30:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do too. Ive worked for corporate papers, and Ive worked for small ones.
Actually, as I type this, Im laying out our weekly edition... and sitting where the original press was. Single-sheet printing press. Ahhh... the olden days!
What did you do there?
sufjams ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:45:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Started at 16 typing legals and taking photos of high school sports. But worked my way up to full time reporting until I quit at 21. Intended to study journalism and would go back to my paper in the summers. Buuuuuut started partying and gave up on school, fuck loans.
martysthreegirls ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:47:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fuck loans indeed. I never had a formal education in newspapers. Just a literal lifetime of on the job training. From age 3.
I grew up in a dark room. At a newspaper. Never went to school for it... but Im now an award-winning designer in NY state.
sufjams ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah, good for you. I was on the same path... wish I stuck with it now.
martysthreegirls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I wish I didn't... sometimes... ain't the best paying job... but I do what I want. LOL
someoldbroad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I miss making little wax fingertips and sculptures while bored and waiting for stories to come in
martysthreegirls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Waxing the fingers. I had forgotten about that.
I once made a wax/office supply motorcycle. Paperclips, nickels waxed together for wheels... best way to kill time. I even got one of those little bendy guys to put on it so it looked like it had a rider.
someoldbroad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still got โcamera readyโ ads sometimes in those days. But we scanned โem
martysthreegirls ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:09:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhhh. Those were the days! Ad slicks from companies!
Now camera ready can be anything from perfect to some asshole who thinks making a letter sized poster in PowerPoint is going to work.
JuDGe3690 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me about itโฆ
(I work for an equine breed-organization magazine, and some of our advertisers are less-than-savvy. The ones who are good and make things to spec are my favorite, as all I have to do is open our camera-ready InDesign template, place the file, and export.)
martysthreegirls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Less-than-savvy it putting it nicely!
Yesterday I got 3 "logos" at 72 dpi and 2 inches across. And by logos, I mean the entire ad...
Galaxy_Ranger_Bob ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:57:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you cc someone an email those two letters refer to the phrase carbon copy.
When letters were typewritten, a sheet of carbon stained paper was placed between two pages so that what was typed on top struck through to make a copy on the second page.
pinkfloydchick64 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:34:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember my mom helped design my elementary school yearbook and it was literally her & another mom cutting out pictures of kids and gluing them as collages onto the pages. It's so weird to think that a lot of printed media was made this way.
someoldbroad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My punk daughter does diy zines like this. Cool that it came back
someoldbroad ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:10:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hot wax. Not glue. I used to literally do pasteup on a literal lightboard for a literal newspaper. With older people who had stories about the days of hot lead. And on that note: leading
ParksVS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet you had a ton of Letraset and the other company that did type setting materials but whose name escapes me, too!
someoldbroad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somewhere in my apartment, thereโs a pica pole and a blue pencil. Donโt think I have a proportion when, though
ParksVS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I grew up playing with so much cool (mostly outdated at the time) graphic design stuff. Bankers boxes full of Letraset, those really heavy duty markers, stock photo books, rollers, wax, shears. My mum is a graphic designer and has been since before computers were super prevalent in the industry.
someoldbroad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pantone books are so delicious
jerdub1993 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:09:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unrelated, but the amount of people who refer to copy and pasting as "cut and paste" irks me more than it should. It's quite literally two separate actions, and when you do that action, you actually click on the word cut or copy. How do you click the word "copy" and think "cut"?!?
chocoespressobeans ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:12:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Click? ctrl + v ctrl + x yo
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heathen. Everyone of refinement knows you use the command key
aeroartist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
along with like half of the other items in photoshop
dance_rattle_shake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know what though? It perfectly describes what's happening on your screen. Unlike "hang up the phone" which makes no freaking sense, digital terms tend to make perfect sense. Cut and paste for life baby.
BeefGriller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And modern keyboard shortcuts refer to this mnemonically.
To copy text, highlight said text, and press Control-C. C, of course, is the first letter of Copy.
To cut the highlighted text, press Control-X. X, of course, looks like a pair of scissors, which cut things.
To paste the text, press Control-V. The capital V looks like the shape of the nozzle on a bottle of paste held perpendicular to a sheet of paper.
Why not use Control-P to paste text, since paste begins with the letter P? Because in the olden days of personal computers, Control-P was already used to send the current work to the Printer.
craazyy1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:17:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also x, c, v are right next to each other, which is convenient
DuckSaxaphone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's super interesting. I always thought copy/cut and paste was named that way because people would understand the function by analogy even though I assumed it was never done with actual paper.
lejefferson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom literally had a dictionary sized book full of pictures you would cut out and paste to make fliers and invitations.
kelaar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was how we edited our newspaper in middle school journalism class. And how we edited stories and such in grade school, until our teachers caught up to the times and learned how to use ClarisWorks so we could do it digitally.
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that metaphor was chosen purposly to express the action.
Smileynameface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Elementary schools still use glue and scissors. They need this to develop fine motor control.
meneldal2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember back when I was a kid many teachers were using literal cut and paste and photocopies (or even the manual one where you have to turn it yourself).
A_SKYRIM_GUARD ยท 2111 points ยท Posted at 15:17:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lollygagging.
IamDDT ยท 1371 points ยท Posted at 15:56:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait...I know you...
Tinferbrains ยท 1151 points ยท Posted at 16:02:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never should have come here
holycowrap ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 20:53:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHY! WON'T! YOU! DIE!!!
tomhas10 ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 20:47:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work for Balathor, at the general good store!
OffendedPotato ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 21:27:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EEEEVERYTHING is for sale my friend! Everything. If I had a sister, I'd sell her in a second.
Lasdary ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:10:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some may call this 'junk'... Me, I call them 'treasures'.
BerryBrickle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:00:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Picks something up You treacherous little filcher!
Kevroeques ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:20:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well met, kinsman!
IPlayGamesForFun ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 20:20:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You picked a bad time to get lost, friend!
ODMtesseract ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 16:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the knee.
Tinferbrains ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 16:19:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're here to teach you a lesson
PM_ME_YOUR__THIGHS ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 18:30:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whats the matter! Someone steal your sweetroll?
Dragoncaker ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:42:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard about you and your hunnied words.
ghpkhg ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:45:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard theyโre reforming the Dawngaurd. Vampire hunters or something.
Sombrere ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:43:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll?
Thebatmann58 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:43:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good work general, but another settlement needs your help. Here I'll mark it on your map for you.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:16:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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BOBULANCE ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:22:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good work general, but another settlement needs your help. Here I'll mark it on your map for you.
SciFidelity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I did this one already!
BOBULANCE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GOOD WORK GENERAL, BUT ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP. HERE I'LL MARK IT ON YOUR MAP FOR YOU.
PlatypusOfWallStreet ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:08:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FUS RO DAHH
TheAntiochStallion ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:06:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skys rim is for the nords!
AlbaDdraig ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 16:26:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got to thinking, maybe I'm the Dragonborn.
Dingbatted ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 16:47:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll.
jollyjmach ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 18:11:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You see those warriors from Hammerfell? Theyโve got curved swords. Curved. Swords.
walkingcarpet23 ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 19:34:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be a lot warmer and a lot happier with a belly full of mead.
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 20:02:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So youโre an alchemist then. Brew me an ale?
RKRagan ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 20:13:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin's out fighting dragons and what do I get? Guard duty.
SmoreOfBabylon ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:03:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heard about you and your honeyed words...
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:23:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you can cast a few spells. Am I supposed to be impressed?
RedditDan00 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:57:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a lot of respect for the restoration school. Skyrim could use a few more healers
Rhazior ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:49:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hands to yourself, sneak thief.
Theban_Prince ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
lifelongfreshman ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:01:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered why this line was the one that people knew. I heard the damned curved sword line far more often, and thought it was far better.
uv_searching ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:11:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In one of the patches they made it so the guards didn't (unintentionally) say that line to your PC ALL THE DAMN TIME. :)
robdouth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For King and Country!
GALACTIC-SAUSAGE ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:18:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can't wait to count out your coin!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imperial scum
RapidoMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You n'wahhh!
idonotknowwhototrust ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:47:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ask him what he used to do for a living.
naufalap ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:12:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like gagging lolis
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:35:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found Roy Moore.
balne ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:01:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u pat lolis on the head, not gag them. u...u...u fucking degenerate
exceptionaluser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! What's next, handholding?
idonotknowwhototrust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt you've done that.
kevie3drinks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:14:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't shout at him, you will make people around here nervous.
broadsheetvstabloid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:10:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!
Mekias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a nickname for when someone causes trouble around here. it's "Suicide".
Minidippa ยท 259 points ยท Posted at 18:19:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disrespect the law and you disrespect me.
bkrugby78 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:24:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see your hand in my pocket, I'm going to cut it off!
Minidippa ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:08:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hear they're reforming the dawnguard. Vampire hunters or something.
bkrugby78 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:09:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the old fort near Riften
Minidippa ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:20:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thinking of signing up, myself.
bkrugby78 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:50:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can the thuโum be taught, like any skill?
Minidippa ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:14:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Psst, hail sithis
KingOfTheMeese ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:06:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard of you and your honeyed words.
SheeEttin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:51:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hands to yourself, sneak thief.
Jebediah_Blasts_off ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have committed crimes against skyrim and her people! What say you in your defence?
normanlee ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 17:58:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
username checks out
moostream ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:17:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like gagging on a lollipop would be actively trying to accomplish something much faster than is comfortable.
lollergagging ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:42:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sup
getakickoutofkik ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:44:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen that hentai before
immortalreploid ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:29:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ravioli ravioli
Yurika_BLADE ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:57:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't lewd the human loli
DaBarr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:12:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/cDaFcQJC4z8
Whaty0urname ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:26:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You lollygag around the infield.
You know what that makes you?
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:43:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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physicscat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She may get wooly. Women do get wooly....
FreeInformation4u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What
john_dark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's from the movie Bull Durham
physicscat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lollygaggers!
andrewdski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lollygaggers.
gibsonsg87 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:06:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quit lollygagging and get on the point!
e: spelling
Terry_Pie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:30:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuel? And you're smoking a ciga-fucking-rette?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:30:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess... someone stole your sweet roll.
idontneedmorespace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You n'wah
Watton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're watching you...scum.
The-Asshat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit you're back.
sunny_person ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to say that all the time, I still occasionally use it with my kids. I'm not sure they know what it means...
lolligaggins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey. Come on now.
SikozuShantiShanu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your hands to yourself, sneak thief.
Clever_Mik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
Rocky87109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shooting the shit. Not quite the criteria for this this thread but similar. More of a misplaced saying that applies to the literal act.
HilarityEnsuez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Listen to the "Dragonborn" track on the soundtrack and tell me there isn't a part where they say "both windows up". Cannot unhear.
nelsonbm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comment thread is nostalgic.
Renmauzuo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:38:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still think of Skyrim as "new" even though it's been over 6 years now. We need ES6.
HilarityEnsuez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually on my first playththrough and it's only been about 5 hours since I started enchanting. I was like "holy fuck, yes". Now rides through the countryside swinging soulbound daggers at wolves is pretty therapeutic, hopping off the horse when I see "Ooo, butterflies!".
Very appreciative of the depth to this game beyond hack and slash dungeon raids.
synfulyxinsane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can become a god if you exploit a few small alchemy and enchanting mechanics. I have a set of armor that gives me so much health I can jump from The Throat of the World and not die.
Renmauzuo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's pretty great. I enjoyed gearing myself and my followers in the best gear I could make/enchant.
And when vanilla gets old mods add like 10 games worth of new content.
HilarityEnsuez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PS4. No mods. :(
spideyjiri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought ps4 had mods but only the kind that don't add new assets to the game?
HilarityEnsuez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this. I've never tried them, maybe I will. But no new character models or anything.
nelsonbm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm so ready for it. Sadly we'll have to wait some more years. :(
I remember taking the day off of school on 11/11/11 to get Skyrim and play it all day. Good times.
taon4r5 ยท 276 points ยท Posted at 17:30:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Don't touch that dial! We'll be right back."
PM_ME_YOUR_BIG_LOAD ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:19:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most TV stations will, if anything, say "don't touch that remote." Also, plenty of radios are still operated via dial.
MikeKM ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:43:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is 77 and I always heard the phrase "hand me the dial" as a kid when she wanted to change the channel...this was in the 1980s. We did have a tv with actual dials at one point (VHF/UHF), but that TV wasn't used much and we had others that used a remote. My wife makes fun of me for asking for the dial, sometimes I ask for the clicker too which gets extra chuckles.
TylerWolff ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:54:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just ask for the remotey boat which gets chuckles but for different, stupider reasons.
Mythodiir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call it the "hand operated dimension viewer".
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:22:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Stay tuned"
PointyOintment ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:49:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's still relevant in the context of radio-based radio.
SheeEttin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to what?
TheSchlaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Satellite radio.
SheeEttin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call the other one terrestrial radio.
basrrf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:40:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look behind you. I said look behind you!
rentmaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the reference I was looking for. Thank you. I can't sleep happy now
angelgeronimo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt touch that dial now! Weโre just getting started. BEHIND YOU.
handle702 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They keep you laughing in the afternoon, so donโt touch that dial, donโt leave the room..
techcaleb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't touch that dial! We got it all on UHF
shred1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
K.O.M.E was a radio station in the bay area. They use to say "Don't touch that dial is has kome on it."
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:55:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My car radio isn't very old and still uses a dial. But yeah.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We'll be right back with Bowling For Dollars!"
taon4r5 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol people still say "dollars."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:22 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you call them?
TMStage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Professional esports streaming will usually use "Don't touch that browser!" these days.
AgalychnisCallidryas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say โturnโ the channel.
Ratoara ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 20:45:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know if this fits the mold but โNimrodโ is occasionally used to refer to an unintelligent person. It is a reference to Nimrod the biblical king who was great hunter and who was never considered particularly dumb. The reason it is now used to refer to a dumb person is due to a Looney Toons episode in which Bugs Bunny calls Elmer Fudd โNimrodโ. It was misinterpreted as meaning stupid and the rest is history.
calamarig ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:00:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My children have misinterpreted "genius" (when Woody calls Buzz one at the gas station) and "dictator" (?) as insults. That last one makes me laugh every time I think about it.
beardbrazil ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:08:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To expand on your comment, the show was called "Looney Tunes" and not "Toons" because they initially showcased Warner-owned musical compositions.
Ratoara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet! Thanks for the extra input!
dj_31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jules, you give that fucking Nimrod 15 hundred dollars and Iโll shoot him on general principle.
MossSalamander ยท 216 points ยท Posted at 17:01:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Run out of steam"
Zanzabushino ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:02:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But...the steam sale is still going on...
stealthdawg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:19:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Modern power generation is still all steam based, so still relevant...kinda...
Edit: Most.
MotherFuckin-Oedipus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
~Comcast, in a few weeks
soupbut ยท 11429 points ยท Posted at 16:03:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Car is short for Carriage. Super oldschool.
agentkolter ยท 2804 points ยท Posted at 16:35:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is more widely known in England than in the U.S., where the word carriage is typically only used in the context of a horse-drawn vehicle. In England, for example, they refer to a divided highway as a dual carriageway, and passenger train cars are referred to as carriages.
Autoradiograph ยท 923 points ยท Posted at 17:21:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Signs in buses in the US refer to the bus as a coach.
agentkolter ยท 565 points ยท Posted at 17:30:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing that comes from stagecoach. Same with the economy seats on an airplane. Wonder if they say that in the UK too?
miklovesrum ยท 665 points ยท Posted at 17:34:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my part of the UK at least, a bus and a coach are not the same thing. Coaches are for long distances, often private hired and don't have standing space, whereas buses have lots of standing room and not that many seats, and are used for short journeys.
Pohatu_ ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 18:03:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I'm from in the US, a coach is a specific type of bus like the one you mentioned. Any automobile meant for carrying lots of people is considered a bus. People usually don't make a distinction as to what type of bus unless its necessary. (For example, I get around my college town on a bus but take a coach bus home for the holidays, and my siblings ride a school bus every day.)
Bergymeister ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 18:22:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as I know, everyone around me calls a bus meant for long distance travel a Greyhound, after the company. It's like how Ziplocs are synonymous with zip closed plastic bags.
sodaflare ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:39:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to think everyone in germany calls a coach a Fรผcker bus
HabseligkeitDerLiebe ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:21:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to dissapoint you, but we just call it Reisebus. Literally translated: "travel bus".
The short-distance busses are called Linienbus; "line bus".
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:52:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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HabseligkeitDerLiebe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true. If there's no possibility of confusion everybody would just say "Bus" to a "Reisebus", too. But if a "coach" and a "bus" would stand next to each other, you'd call one "Reisebus" and the other "Linienbus" or "Nahverkehrsbus" or something similar.
Pohatu_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:26:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, my grandpa and his close family does the same thing but its always a Megabus.
fezzuk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never take a mega bus unless you have no choice, turns a 4 hour journey in to a 12 hour journey with a bunch of changes and needless stops, it's painful.
Pohatu_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then what would my grandpa have to complain about?
fezzuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she is anything like mine, everything?
Pohatu_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably would just complain about it being Megabus even if it isn't though, and you've got a good point.
Alx1775 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you are on a direct route, Megabus is awesome and cheap. Favorite way to get to NYC from Baltimore.
fezzuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's america I have no idea, in the UK you are better off building your own plane from scratch, it would take less time.
MattcVI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:54 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Megabus is hit or miss in the US too. Sometimes it's faster than Greyhound (fewer stops) but other times it's painfully slow. It's worth it for the quiet upper seats though, and not as many druggies in the back
bungopony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So kinda like the Spanish "semi-directo" trains? Definitely well named.
Mrmojorisincg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always assumed the greyhound thing was more of a southern U.S. thing because of the dominance of Greyhound coaches. Up in the north east Iโve almost always heard coach used for long distance bussing
HyperspaceCatnip ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:42:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I moved from Scotland to the US 6 years ago, and even now whenever I see a Greyhound coach driving around (around once a year at most) I think "Wow! Just like in the movies!"
Mrmojorisincg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, I never really realize the difference of culture must be so interesting to foreigners and immigrants, being how diverse the world is yet, Hollywood has a dominant spot in world film culture. Like I always find films from the UK to be so interesting for this exact reason
Baboobalou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My (UK) colleagues (USA) were bemused at how excited I was to see a real life 7/11 and other mundane things.
Boris_Ignatievich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
America is a really interesting place as a Brit. It feels so familiar, because of the shared language and how much culture crossover we get, but at the same time almost every day I'm there (I've visited 5 or so times the last 4 years), something happens where it feels totally alien.
Weirdly, Japan gave me the total opposite experience - obvious strange and alien on the surface, yet I kept stumbling across things that just made sense to me despite having no reason to
Mrmojorisincg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always kinda think of like Lane Pryce from Madmen, I think itโs probably similar to if you went to australia, canada, of new Zealand, like our countries have the same origin of the British Empire, I guess itโs just different because how early we became independent, yet how tight knit our nations are,.. like England and U.S. are both from the same father but two rebellious siblings... we get to see how things could have been
SpoopyButtholes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a lifelong New Englander, but from what I've seen they're interchangeable up here. Coach is slightly more common, but no one will bat an eye at Greyhound.
HaniiPuppy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Scotland, we do the same except calling them Stagecoaches, after the company Stagecoach, which itself gets its name from the old fashioned stage coaches.
Mithent ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:25:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are long-distance buses (which I might call coaches?), generally National Express or Megabus, but I'd say that taking the train is more common for long-distance public transport in the UK. Maybe it's just where I live, but when I've considered using one of those other services, they've generally turned out to be significantly slower and often run infrequently at inconvenient times. Makes sense if they're a lot cheaper and you're not in a hurry, but usually I just go straight for the train.
Pohatu_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:30:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trains are fairly common, but not always a feasible form of transportation. There are a lot of really spread out areas not connected to major train lines, and you basically have to take some sort of bus either to your destination or a train station. Of course, this doesn't apply to everywhere. Plenty of places are connected by train here.
girl-lee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:06:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot more places used to be connected by train. I've seen a map of the UK railways around 50 years ago compared to now and it's been decimated.
havingmares ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:17:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking Beeching cuts. Ripped out so much infrastructure. My hometown is slowly trying to rebuild the trainline now, but more as an attraction. We do have a lot of bike paths, though.
TransitRanger_327 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:27:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in america. The Official Guide to the Railways, a book that listed timetables for every passenger train in America and Canada, used to number over 1000 pages. The Amtrak System timetable is at less than 100 pages.
Dodgiestyle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:30:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm still blown away that two people from thousands of miles away from one another just a super interesting casual conversation that changes absolutely nothing about my life. How freaking cool are the times in which we live?
Pohatu_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It absolutely changes something! Broadening your worldview certainly changes something about your life, even if its something as trivial like this.
brearose ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:57:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in Canada. Coaches are more comfortable, for longer distances, everyone gets a seat, usually there's a luggage compartment, and there's a washroom. A bus is only for short distances, lots of standing room, nowhere for luggage, and no washroom
Celdarion ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:06:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Comfortable is not a word I'd associate with a coach. All the ones I've been on have been hideous
kinadian1980 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:21:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When compared to a city bus, they are pretty damn comfortable.
brearose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ones where I am are fairly comfortable, but they're all super expensive. But even if they aren't comfortable in the way your bed or couch is, they're more comfortable than regular buses.
Bjharris1993 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:37:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, coaches have fairly large luggage compartments. Whereas buses have little to no luggage compartments.
StutMoleFeet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:05:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US, we call the long-distance ones "coach buses" and the short-distance ones "city buses"
isthisfunnyenough ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My bus driver mate says that a coach has room underneath for luggage, a bus is focused only on passengers.
rawbface ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have them in the USA, but call them "coach buses". Although typically just "bus" covers both kinds.
What would a school bus be?
TheCruise ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:27:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
School buses don't exist in the UK. At least, those single decker yellow things with stop signs you guys have don't exist over here. School buses here are usually just regular "city" buses travelling a different route.
rawbface ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:32:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hilarious to me that you had to make this distinction.
TheCruise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahahahaha yeah it was probably unnecessary but I just wanted to make sure you guys knew I was talking about the actual vehicle itself not existing over here, rather than the whole concept of school buses
Cymry_Cymraeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bus.
miklovesrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't have the traditional yellow school buses here at all. Most schools either use the public bus services or they hire their own coaches, or occasionally hire an actual bus. Or if the route doesn't get a lot of use then they might use a minibus.
Flying_Cunnilingus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how things are done in my part of Canada.
Psychaotic20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here in the US. People donโt really just say coach though. Itโs a coach bus.
SkierBeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Canada it's pretty similar but all coaches are busses and not all busses are coaches.
chikcaant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, coaches are the ones used for school trips
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a lorry is a truck yeah?
bungopony ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put some derv in the lorry, wouldja, and check under the bonnet, I've got to retrieve my brolly from the boot, it's going to piss down innit?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:51 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I actually understand what you said and I'm not British. Many of my ancestors were though and I am fascinated with the UK.
miklovesrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Although some companies use the word truck, especially hire ones.
DanOfBradford78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other differences- coaches will have a toilet + a large space for suitcases. Also, seatbelts.
BadBoyJH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bus uses a "bus route" a coach will travel between start and end destinations.
bungopony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The oddest signs in Britain might be the "Football Coaches =>" ones - means something totally different from N. America.
peopleskeptic ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My part of the UK you can call a coach a bus but you can't call bus a coach. If that makes sense.
Mithent ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:18:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't generally call economy seats on planes "coach" in the UK, no. I can only really think of the term "economy".
bunneeboo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:30:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the main public bus companies in the UK (including in my city) is called Stagecoach.
They suck.
ExtremelyNormal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:36:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fuck stagecoach
AnalogOfDwarves ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:58:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A coach was any carriage designed to carry more than a couple of people. The first buses were sometimes called "motor coaches", because that was what they were.
Incidentally, the word bus is a shortening of omnibus, meaning "for everyone" in Latin - because the first such omnibus (a horse drawn carriage) was an experiment in transportation completely open to the public. Today, private, for-hire "bus" companies often still refer to themselves as coaches because "bus" traditionally implied anyone could board.
RikMcnulty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:50:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aeroplane
TheCatWantsOut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that word can only make me think of this sketch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1oMhMwUbgc
Suppafly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
motor coach, but yeah, probably to differentiate it from stage coach.
kirkbywool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, though that is the name of one of our bus companies. Buses are what you have for public transport and have bars to hold onto when it is busy.
A coach is usually privately hired, all seated and use more comfortable and it has a toilet in for the extended journey
IridiumForte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait how does 'economy' work?
agentkolter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US, people used to refer to the cheapest seats on an airplane as "flying coach". Airlines don't really use this term any more (at least I haven't seen it in recent memory), but it's still common knowledge and you still occasionally hear people use the phrase.
IridiumForte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yea true, I thought the word economy was some kind of throwback
kalhmera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi, UK here, have stagecoach in my town, long distance only travels
Cymry_Cymraeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Say what?
helpfulhankypanky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a bus company called stagecoach here haha
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bus is short for "omni-bus" which was a type of horse drawn carriage.
HexenHase ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:40:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And bus is short for "omnibus"!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in Rhode Island idk where you live
madaraszvktr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word coach actually comes from the name of a Hungarian town called Kocs (pronounced kind of like coch). The first carriages with dampening springs were produced here, and the Holy Roman Empire used them for postal service. Hungarians called it the "kocsi szekรฉr" meaning carriage from/of Kocs. The name quickly spread through Europe with the vehicle so most European languages use it in some form. Hungarian is no exception but "kocsi" means car instead of a kind of bus. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kocs
hotbowlofsoup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word coach, a large carriage, comes from Kocs, a village in Hungary where it was invented in the 15th century.
See also German Kutsche, Dutch Koets, Spanish Coche.
MattieShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember being confused by the "no football coaches" signs in the UK.
Bearmodulate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Buses and coaches are two different things in the UK
warpus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Canada and when I take greyhound the bus driver uses the term "coach" when referring to bus rules and such. Nobody else seems to use the term anywhere else. English is my 3rd language so maybe I'm way off here but my guess is that Greyhound (the company) forces bus drivers to use the term "coach" because it makes their service seem less shitty somehow
physicscat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Engine power as horsepower.
jaavaaguru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because a road used to be a carriageway. Where horses would pull carriages.
soujasimon ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:14:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the UK didn't know that! Also carriage is not widely used other than the aforementioned "dual carriageway" or "hackney carriage" which is the official name of a licensed taxi/black cab.
Cheekydood ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:23:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also from the UK, I've never heard of Hackney Carriage though, just Hackney Cabs. Have heard of train carriges though
Ionicfold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually it says Hackney carriage somewhere on the car (possibly license plate) as a form of legality.
That is if it's a licensed Hackney Carriage.
jaavaaguru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"black hack". Y'know... rhyming and all that.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:45:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, what do you call train carriages then? I don't think I have heard them called anything else.
soujasimon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:47:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Derp. Forgot about those.... even though im in one.....
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol.
OT, but it's not Northern Rail is it? I bloody hate Northern Rail.
soujasimon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Southwestern rail. Equally as rubbish :/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never tried them. I swear if I ever become famous, I will start a smear campaign against all these crappy train companies!
agentkolter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:28:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard "hackney carriage" before! Do you know if the name hackney comes from the original manufacturer of those black cabs?
marknorman3 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:22:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No - Hackney is a place in East London
kabanaga ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:44:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like this? :)
agentkolter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, back in the days when coaches/carriages and chassis were built separately! I bet there's a way to figure out when the word carriage started dropping out of everyday usage and started being replaced by "car".
glatdos5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:45:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. Studying for a driving test in holland (im american) and the translated book was in english english. Took me a few extra googles to figure out what precisely was going on.
realfoodman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the UK, it rhymes when you park your carriage in your garage.
fakerachel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than finding Nigel Farage in your garage.
APankow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carriage and Car are not horse-drawn. They stem from the Latin "Carrus" for "Ox" and "oxen"... Ox-pulled is your etymology.
Bananafanafofana63 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Passenger train cars are referred to as carriages in the US as well. Most Americans never interact with a passenger train in their life, though, so itโs not terminology they ever need to learn or use.
TheMountainWhoDews ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The opposite almost - Many people in England would refer to train/metro cars as "carriages". Thats just what we call them.
Carriageway is used to refer to roads ocasionally. Dual carriageways are named so because there's a central embankment seperating the two carriageways of traffic.
somersettler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(Fun fact) ...except on the london underground where they are cars, because of charles yerkes' influence
ajehals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a hail-able taxi is a hackney carriage (vs minicab for those you book in advance, or indeed uber).
RadRichTea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weโll also use it on invites to signal the ending time of an event, eg. โcarriages at midnightโ.
colin132 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well motor car is short for motorised carriage and we just shortened it further to โcarโ.
DoubleThick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US we use the term under carriage to refer to the under part of the car.
TomatoWarrior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the Hackney Carriage!
agentkolter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just learned about that today! :)
HouseDownTheStreet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brit here, this isn't the case in the states? What would you call them?
shokalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They tend to use railcar or railroad car. Which is more or less short for carriage anyway.
Here in the UK 'railcar' has a specific definition though, that's a carriage that is self propelled, i.e. it doesn't need a locomotive of some description to pull it along.
capntanaka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also the proper word for a cab is โHackney Carriageโ and appears written on the back of most of them saying โLicensed Hackney Carriageโ.
YevansUK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A taxi is also called a Hackney Carriage (Hackney being a place in London). For a taxi driver to be allowed to drive they need a Hackney Carriage license.
ActivisionBlizzard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am from England and never put those things together. Have definitely heard them both called train cars and carriages. Mind blown.
amazondrone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am in England. Know both of those words (dual carriageway, train carriage). Still had no idea car is short for carriage.
collin-h ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
explain the whole bonnet and boot thing. Was that derived from something in the pre-car era?
ernesthemingwaybing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
where does the term "slip-road" come from?
jaavaaguru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. I'm in Scotland and previously lived in the US. On-ramp and off-ramp. I'm not sure if I've ever said "slip road".
ernesthemingwaybing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:30 on December 25, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the english voice on garmin gps always called it a slip road so i figured thats what the english call it, maybe thats only in england?
GiggleButts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in stupid fucking Boston they call shopping carts โcarriagesโ
jaavaaguru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in the UK we call them trollies.
GiggleButts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs adorable and rolls off the tongue!
MockingDude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In some parts of India taxis are called "Contract Carriages".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Legally in the UK they are "mechanically propelled vehicles". This is one of the reasons freemen (British sovereign citizens) aren't as successful because all the laws refer to "a mechanically propelled vehicle being used or kept on a road" rather than "driven". In addition, legally we don't drive whilst drunk. We are "drunk in charge" or "operated a mechanically propelled vehicle whilst under the influence". It doesn't stop them trying, but it does mean they aren't tolerated as much.
themuffinmann82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also here in Scotland
Dumpster_Fetus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do we drive on the parkway and park in the driveway?...
killit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right about the other examples, but I had never heard that car was short for carriage, and it's never occurred to me!
1stLtObvious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or a shopping carriage.
kevonicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs cause England is gay.
9loabl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that easy. We have 'Motorways' which are, as far as I've seen, always 3 lanes for each side. There is a crash barrier between the 3 lanes going the other way. Motorways have a speedlimit of 70 MPH. And motorways are called things like the M25 or the M6. There are exceptions, see third paragraph.
Dual Carriageway on the other hand are NOT Motorways in that they 'usually' have two lanes on each side. The speed limit on a dual carriageway is 'usually' 60MPH. These are usually the busier A class roads. Examples include the A1.
There are of course exceptions that will blur the boundaries that define the differences between what a motorway is and what a dual carriageway is. You have the A55 that runs along the North Wales coast, it's not a motorway, it's a dual carriageway but it's speed limit is 70 MPH. Then you have the A1(M). That is a motorway after it's a dual carriageway. And you have inner city roads like the A406 in London, it's a busy one so it has 3 lanes like a motorway. But the speed limit is probably something like 40MPH, maybe 50MPH in some parts. The names, class and speed of the roads might be different because of historical or geographical reasons.
aj240 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, but I don't think many people here make the connection between car and carriage despite that. I don't think its a widely known thing.
Houdiniman111 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:19:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why people in England pronounce "garage" like "carriage" but with a "g"? (So "garriage", I guess)
lmpaler86 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:38:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
England says things stupid anyways. Fucking Brits.
Source: American.
Itโs a trunk not a boot! A boot is what you wear on your foot you tea drinking cunts! โค๏ธ
BoredOfCanada ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trunks belong to elephants, though.
lmpaler86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That! ....... is a fair point
drabmaestro ยท 277 points ยท Posted at 19:13:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is super wrong. They come from the same root word, the latin word carrus. "Car" and "Carriage" meant different things, and have both been around since the 14th century.
Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carriage#Overview
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car#Etymology
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/car
boyohboyitsmytimeto ยท 406 points ยท Posted at 17:31:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I looked them up on Oxford Dictionaries. According to it, the two words originated from different words. Are you sure you're not mistaken? Here's the link to the page.
Edit: It appears OP is definitely mistaken. Car most certainly is not short for carriage.
Though, as u/Gars0n points out below, the two words are connected. Car comes straight from the Latin word "carrus" while carriage comes from a French word "carier" which comes from carrus as well. Sources: car: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/car carriage: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/carriage carry: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/carry
drabmaestro ยท 210 points ยท Posted at 19:15:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's mistaken. This is a common factoid that just sounds right.
ckach ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 19:17:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a factoid in the original sense of the word.
drabmaestro ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:28:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was quite conscious of not using "factoid" wrong after commenting on someone else's mistake ;)
ThePortalsOfFrenzy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:06:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I came here to admire the correct usage.
Jess_than_three ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, using it in the modern sense isn't wrong. Language changes. And in this case, it only held the original sense for a minute to begin with - the sense of "a small bit of interesting trivia" gained currency almost immediately, and it's had that ubiquitous mean for far longer than it was predominantly understood to refer to something true-sounding but false.
Gars0n ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:35:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, he's mostly correct. See this comment
drabmaestro ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:44:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean they came from the same root word, but one is not short for the other
Gars0n ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:34:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually according to that link they are connected. Car comes straight from the latin word "carrus" while carriage comes from a French word "carier" which comes from carrus as well.
Sources:
car
carriage see carry
boyohboyitsmytimeto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:55:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. I should have been more thorough when I looked up the words. Thanks for pointing it out. OP's statement is still not correct, I'm afraid. Car doesn't seem to be short for carriage.
(I'll edit my reply to include your comment. It'll be more informative.)
:)
sua_mae ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:56:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually both are based on Latin carrus.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:51:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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boyohboyitsmytimeto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which one?
boyohboyitsmytimeto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean the BBC one?
truwarier14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heโs just trying to get karma
wootlesthegoat ยท 319 points ยท Posted at 17:01:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. Til.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:34:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually you didn't learn, because he's wrong.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:11:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well he learned the WRONG information, but still learning.
karakter222 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:16:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, the word "coach" (as in a cart) is originating from a hungarian town called Kocs, they made their living from making carts and carriages
wrongrrabbit ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:44:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even more also, a truck is short for truckle, a medieval hand cart.
themuffinmann82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Before it was just a chariot
ProgramTheWorld ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:47:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not. The word car didn't come from the word carriage.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rouxbidou ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:17:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And "Taxi" or "Taxicab" is short for "Taximeter Cabriolet"
maynardsd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:29:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it is not. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/4sygrx/is_car_short_for_carriage/
SewerRanger ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:41:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um, not according to every etymology site/book I could find:
Etymology of Car:
Etymology of Carriage:
fsdgfhk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:32:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lots of automotive terms are from horse and carriage days. Coupe, cabriolet, sedan, roadster, even truck- auto manufacturers just borrowed terms from the pre-existing mode of transport.
lollytop ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:16:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dashboard comes from the same place. a board to keep mud from being thrown(dashed) at you from a horses hooves. From a TIL about a week ago.
ACuteMonkeysUncle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:22:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The words are related, but car developed separately from carriage.
kylehampton ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:56:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it isnโt. This is a common misconception.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:37:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't true. Car comes from the latin carrum.
kabanaga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The logo of the Fisher Body division of GM featured a carriage/stagecoach. :)
Charlie_Wallflower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And horses used to kick up "dash" necessitating a "dashboard"
Mr_A ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bus is short for omnibus.
srcarruth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cab, as in taxicab, is short for Cabriolet
Freiling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taxi Cab is short for Taximeter Cabriolet.
The Taximeter is what we now call the "meter."
tormentedpenguin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This blew my mind
danger____zone ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:50:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not correct. The word car has been around for as long as carriage. They both come from the same or similar latin root but car generally referred to any wheeled vehicle while carriage was specifically a wheeled vehicle that carried people.
tormentedpenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'm dissapointed
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What, you donโt have horses under your hood?
AichSmize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And auto is short for automotive. Donโt bother to saddle the horse, today we are taking the automotive carriage.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoah. Cool.
ythl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Italian the word for "car" is "macchina" or "machine"
4152510 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's still accurate though. Carriage just means "a mechanism for carrying"
KevinCostNerf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And cabs.
freeblowjobiffound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Automobile is the best word.
DOW_orks7391 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FINALLY IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!!!!
FuriousDee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mind blown
SilverFirePrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You there! Fill it up with petroleum distillate, and re-vulcanize my tires, post haste!
murppie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tarp is short for tarpaulin. The Simpson's taught me that ๐คฃ
JeF4y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm pretty sure once upon a time a "Glove box" was used for gloves instead of napkins & ketchup.
Rex_Mundi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the "Dashboard" kept the mud off of you that was "dashed" up from the horses.
Beanbomb47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wtf man dont do this to my head
ridik_ulass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
driver too, you drive cattle and horses
ISaidHoratioDies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And bike is short for bichael
cheek_blushener ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's sort of like that in Quebec too: "char" is short for "chariot", while properly it'd be "voiture" (like Automobile I guess).
davidildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cab is short for cabriolet, a type of carriage. Other ones are coupe, landau and limousine.
Sedans go all the way back to the 1600's where they were litters that were carried.
linux1970 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Quebec, people often call their cars "mon char" which translates to my chariot.
navinohradech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, it's not, why not take 2 seconds to look it up rather than just guessing
The_Music ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old model Ts We're basically wooden carriages with an engine.
-ordinary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Quรฉbรฉcois they call it un char short for chariot
Also what they call tanks in French
cchuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mind is sort of blown. It seems so obvious now that you say it but it has never once crossed that a word I use every day derived from a word that I am familiar with and know the origins of.
lutinopat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So people from Boston are pronouncing it correctly?
TheSilverNoble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I always thought it came from Carmobile.
bogidyboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, they do carry us donโt they?
nvrMNDthBLLCKS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Auto (meaning self) will get it meaning back however, as in self driving...
Isord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm undercarriage suddenly seems much more literal.
TurnNburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was short for Carmobile
cdawg145236 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well a car is a motorized-carrage, so I think it still holds up
nlshelton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes much more sense to me when I think about the fact that early cars were often called "motorcars" - to distinguish that you're talking about a motorized carriage instead of a horse-and-buggy
TortureSteak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chevrolet literally translates to "rolling horse"
merryman1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related - Bus is short for Omnibus, latin 'for all'.
tryingtomakeachang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This would explain why in the video game โFableโ at the begging of the game a kid makes mention of a โcarโ..... everything makes more sense now.
roho1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
interesting, that makes total sense but given how the A sound in Car and the A sound in Carriage are so vastly different I never made that connection.
Ima_AMA_AMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so the Bostonians were pronouncing it right the whole time?
RolandTheJabberwocky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just feel stupid now for not realizing this sooner.
overpaid_overworked ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be pedantic, it's actually horseless carriage, or motor carriage.
ymay-editray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually car comes from the Latin word carrus, carri, m. meaning cart. Even more old school than a carriage.
cjandstuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Certain parts of the south still say "get down" when you're getting out of a vehicle. "Are you going to get down?"
This is supposedly a holdover from climbing down out of a carriage, but still fits pretty well with jacked-up pickup trucks.
Alamander81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trunk comes from there being an actual trunk at the back of carraige. I guess the brits would keep their boots back there hardy har har
chemistry_teacher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say this (and some of the daughter comments referring to similar) is still applicable and not lacking in relevance despite being out of date.
EgnlishPro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related, the words taxi and cab (and taxicab) are short for taximeter cabriolet!
kindall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
taxicab is short for taximeter cabriolet. taximeter being the device that tracks the distance and time traveled to calculate the cost, cabriolet referring to a a light carriage drawn by a single horse. taxi and cab are further shortenings of this of course.
PullTogether ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pressing the gas pedal is going to be the same way. I drive an electric car, and pressing the gas pedal doesn't make sense, but it's easier to say then pressing the accelerator.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck. How did I never know this.
paross ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trunk would be just as irrelevant, as it referred to actual trunks strapped to the back of the carriage.
nightlyraider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i love that taxi cab is short for taximeter cabriolet. who uses those anymore with uber tho?
Usakuun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going even further back, the Latin (Roman) word 'carrus' ('kar.rus/sa) is used as the definition of wagon, or cart. You can use the root 'car' in the way we used it today for 'automobile', or something that 'carries' someone from one place to another, or 'moves automatically' or 'autonomously'.
Latin is awesome because once you start looking, you can find bits and pieces of the language in all sorts of words in "Romance Languages", Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and variations of English (actually closer to Germanic) and Eastern European versions of Catalan and Romanian.
Using it to disect different words is like a rabbit hole. Scientific fields of study are classified by a Latin Root and Affix (at the end, opposite of Prefix, 'pre = before' or 'affix/after = post') with the part of -ology or 'study of' on the end.
As far as I know, there is no specific Latin Root for the concept of 'car' in the modern sense. In college, we would use carrus instead, but even keeping that in mind, it still seems strange to say: "Julia took the cart to the mall." Next time, she can take a horse = equus. She just loves equestrian events.
Edit: been awhile since college, but as a dead language, at least that part is consistent.
DonnaGail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! The dash board in a car is a term from the carriage too. When it was muddy, you put up the dash board in the carriage, so the horses wouldn't kick the mud up on you.
ChristoWhat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing we don't have any cars here in Boston..
Lorry_Al ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bus is short for omnibus
venuswasaflytrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, they are carriages still
depricatedzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and van for caravan iirc
liarandathief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bus is short for Omnibus.
suckbothmydicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: When the automobile came to Denmark (danish: automobil) a newspaper made a competition where the readers would compete to name the new thing. Winner was the reader who just took the last part of the word bil. Later it became the official word for the vehicle.
epwnym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Quebec they will use the term โcharโ (derived from chariot) for car. However char in Europe means a tank.
where_to_next3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, come on now. I canโt believe I never noticed this before. My mind is blown.
Rithe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But early cars were motorized carriages. They still are for the most part, so its still mostly correct.
I think
theres_an_i_in_idiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We all drive Horseless Carriages (Hor Car?)
firmly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More specifically for โhorseless carriageโ, which was shortened to โhorseless carโ and then finally โcarโ.
skepticalspectacle1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself youngster.
GeriatricSerialPerv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And van is short for caravan
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By that logic, you could argue a horse-drawn carriage would be considered a muscle car...
Kougeru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was caravan
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why you lying cunt?
Brickie78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the subject, two interesting titbits on coach-related words:
A "coach" is derived from the Hungarian town of Kocs (pronounced roughly as "coach"), which became synonymous with the manufacture/design of a particular light, fast coach with steel suspension in the late middle ages.
In the US, a popular make of heavy wagon was the Conestoga Wagon, whose drivers were said to favour smoking cheap cigars to help keep themselves warm - the cigars became known as "stogies" after the drivers.
kumquat_may ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:46 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bus is short for Omnibus
ConfoditeCornua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And "carriage" comes from "chariot", so, oldest school.
4152510 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't, it comes from the word "carry"
cubosh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:59:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
etymologically they are connected indeed
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:29:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video
Confi07 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:48:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In America down south, I visiting a friend and they call shopping carts carriages as well, crazy when I first heard it.
kcho99 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:57:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word 'plumber' comes from the Latin 'plumbum', so it technically just means someone who works in lead. The word's origins date all the way back to the Roman empire, where the pipes were made of lead.
Of course, we've known since then that lead pipes makes your water give you lead poisoning. Nowadays, plumbers are very specifically not supposed to use lead for drinking water pipes, but we still call them that.
Muffin278 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:41:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, plumbum is the reason the symbol for lead is Pb on the periotic table.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:42:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My chemistry teacher took an inordinate amount of joy in saying the name of the compound plumbus plumbate.
Also, a plumbline is a piece of string with a plumb-bob (traditionally a lead weight) at the end, used as a vertical reference, to ensure things are plumb (vertically in line).
CyberSparks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So totally calling them plumb bums now
mnorri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, thatโs a lead pipe cinch, as my dad would say!!
Defendprivacy ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 17:20:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a number
Rob_T_Firefly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This has survived the act of turning a dial being replaced by pressing down on physical buttons, and then that being replaced by smooshing your finger around on a touchscreen.
Skipinator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And hanging up the phone.
QuinstonChurchill ยท 2067 points ยท Posted at 15:11:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Turn the TV up/down a notch". Hasn't really been relevant since knob TVs but it's still used today!
JDHannan ยท 939 points ยท Posted at 16:11:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The volume frequently still has notches lots of tvs show a thing like | | | |โ| | or a progress bar, which goes up in increments as well
emilydm ยท 1248 points ยท Posted at 16:47:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your TV is way too loud.
| |โ | | | |
That's better.
I_am_very_rude ยท 222 points ยท Posted at 16:57:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One notch = 30Db.
emilydm ยท 441 points ยท Posted at 17:06:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100% volume = 150 dB. One of the selling points of this television was its ability to simulate standing next to a jet engine at full throttle.
TheMSensation ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 17:22:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you tried it out with a YouTube video of a jet engine at full throttle at max volume?
SCScanlan ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 17:28:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
crackle crackle pop
HBunchesOO ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:21:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVE cereal.
SittingInAnAirport ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:44:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happened to Snap?
mrtstew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:37:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He left for a better job with Keebler. Can't blame him with this economy.
righthandoftyr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:05:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh? Speak up sonny, quit yer mumblin'.
L_Keaton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but I was eating Sun Chips at the time so I couldn't hear it.
BlatantConservative ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 18:08:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And thats like 5 feet away from a jet engine.
I think my favorite db fact is that the main guns of a Iowa Class battleship weigh in at 210 db. Meaning they're so loud they kill anyone within 100 feet or so.
Wert688 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:36:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't Iowa landlocked? They must really care about defending the Mississippi.
NZNiknar ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 19:32:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's Iowa Class, it just went to school there.
I_am_very_rude ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:39:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the ship shoots S'mores?
the state snack of Iowa is s'mores.
MattcVI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:06 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brb moving to Iowa
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you are just confusing things, because the Mississippi was a New Mexico class.
umrguy42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:38 on January 18, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. The Iowa AND the Missouri. NOBODY's getting by...
hatsnatcher23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing no one lives in Iowa
TurtleOrgans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey!
hatsnatcher23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hello,
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:15:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? Do you mean they deafen anyone within 100 feet? I tried googling it and can't find any mention of what you're saying.
BlatantConservative ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:25:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually a sound tech so I geek out about this stuff.
Sound is air pushing against other air. There is really no real difference between a sound and the shockwave a bomb makes, except for some super high level fluid dynamics stuff that basically creates a high pressure wave with a vacuum immediately following it.
Basically, the Iowa Class Battleship is the loudest thing humanity has ever made where there would be a chance of people hearing it (rocket motors and stuff like that are on that level too), but it actually hasn't quite reached that level where it creates the vacuum (and technically is not sound but a shockwave).
BUT, the sound is so loud that it would immediately rupture your eardrums and blood vessels. You ever heard of the bends/diving sickness? The air pressure of the sound of the blast would be like that, but in a millisecond.
The actual sound rating of the guns is about 210-220 db. Your eardrums instantly rupture at 160-170 db. Decibels are kind of logarithmic, meaning 90db is roughly double 80 db.
Here is a cool picture of the pure power of the sound.
Kim_Jong_OON ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:30:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. I don't know ow how this cool of a fact isn't widely known.
BlatantConservative ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:37:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people don't even know sound can kill you.
hatsnatcher23 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:08:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the ones that do cant hear you
telionn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:52:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's worse than that where it counts. The energy of the sound wave is 10 times stronger every time you go up 10 dB. Your puny eardrums don't care about perception of loudness.
The maximum OSHA-approved noise level for an 8-hour work day without hearing protection is 85 dB. This means a 215 dB sound is literally 10,000,000,000,000 (ten trillion) times more powerful.
BlatantConservative ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:08:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The loudest sound most people hear in their lives is probably 120-130 decibels, like the Blue Angels flying over or something like that.
215 is roughly, what, 10,000,000,000 more powerful than that.
TitaniumDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gunshots are generally louder than that. Lots of people hear those.
BlatantConservative ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
9mm clocks in at 160db, true, but I might be naively assuming that everyone wears ear protection when firing guns.
Also Iโm a gun owner in a very non gun owner place so that didnโt really occur to me.
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the reply, this is fascinating. But I still require clarification... So this means that people on the ship itself must be 100 feet away from the guns at all times when firing? Because there doesn't seem to be enough room to allow for every crew member to remain a safe distance in that case, given how spread across the surface of the ship the guns are. Does being inside the ship muffle the sound to safe levels and it's just people standing on the surface that are at risk?
I'm sorry for all the questions but I'm just finding it hard to imagine how a technology like this would be in use if it killed every friendly person within 100 feet of it. With something as loud as 220dB I'm not aware of any hearing protection that could even remotely bring the sound down to safe levels, so I assume I'm missing something.
BlatantConservative ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:02:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The USS Iowa is 887 feet long. They very rarely fired all main batteries at once.
But more importantly, the sound is mainly focused forward, and the barrel of the gun is 66 feet long. The main epicenter of the sound is the end of the barrel.
Here's a rough mockup, red is the dead zone and yellow is the hearing loss zone (without hearing protection and/or being inside the ship). I'm eyeballing it pretty hard (and my original 100 feet estimate was based on what I know about jet engines, so it might be a bit off too because frequencies are different, although low frequency sound like guns actually goes farther), but those guns and those ships were fucking massive.
You are correct, being behind the bulkhead of a ship or being below deck would considerably dampen it, although I would still personally wear ear protection.
Cosmic_Ostrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you so much for the explanation. I was going to ask if it was only the area in front of the barrel that was the danger zone. The mockup helps visualize it, and in addition the ship is larger than I realized. I can see now based on the size of the ship and the direction of the sound that there would be safe zones to allow for a technology like this. I also hadn't considered that the image you linked with all the cannons firing simultaneously might not be the most typical use-case.
For what it's worth I upvoted all your comments and wasn't trying to dispute you, I was just genuinely fascinated and dumbfounded by this new information I'd never heard before. I agree with the other guy who asked something like "how is information this amazing not more widely known?".
BlatantConservative ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt worry, I didnโt think you were challenging me. Iโm literally just geeking out here and I love sharing stuff like that with people.
Also, its a pretty unknown side of science so Iโm not gonna blame anyone for not knowing that.
Wawoowoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you were manning an AA gun, would you have suffered permanent hearing loss even with ear protection? That seems like a pretty huge zone.
Viking042900 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theyโll also kill people miles away.
BlatantConservative ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And anywhere in between.
A_Tame_Sketch ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:55:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes the old THX into. Always had to let the neighbors know when we were watching something on laserdisc.
ChrissiTea ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do THX even still exist?
overpaid_overworked ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like its:
1-5: basically inaudible 6: super quiet 7: normal for a room 8: eardrum destroyer 9-10: what my grandmother watches TV at 11: SPINAL TAP
My_Pen_is_out_of_Ink ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HOW ELSE WILL I ENJOY MY AIRPORT SIMULATOR OTHERWISE?
compwiz1202 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eh?
flaunteneer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think /r/JDHannan's line had seven notches, of which one was taller than the rest. That would be 180 dB.
Also, dB by itself is meaningless. You're referring to some scale where dB is based on acoustic pressure relative to 20 micropascals (e.g. dB SPL, dB(A)), but many amplifiers describe electric potential levels or power levels as dB with some arbitrary origin (e.g. dBV, dBu, dBW, dBm).
Override9636 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
150dB, or as my parents would call it "CAN YOU TURN IT UP I CAN'T HEAR WHAT THEY'RE SAYING!"
TheOneTrueTrench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's not how decibels work.
luckyluke193 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that 150 dBA or 150 dBB or 150 dBC or 150 dBm or 150 dBW or ...
Swicket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Top Gun is fucking incredible on this TV. You really feel like youโre there.
Half-Naked_Cowboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one goes up to eleven!
Arianfelou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A jet engine, or one average-sized cockatoo!
Drew707 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I got a TK-421.
Disciple_Of_Tachanka ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:50:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/theydidthemath
im_twelve_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:21:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My TV has pretty normal volume intervals, except when you go all the way down. Volume 2 is too loud in the middle of the night when the baby is falling asleep, but 1 might as well be mute. There's such a big jump between the two; I don't understand it. Lately, we just keep the subtitles on.
Worktime83 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:42:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nope the first 30 notches are .5 db and then the 31st is 200db
narfidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our AMP at home has been in the negatives since we got it when I was 3. It was how I first learned about negatives and positives long before school. It's been 17 years and the tv is routinely at -46db. And if we all watch a movie together we can bump it up to -16 db. 0 is unbearable
JtheNinja ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:35:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many (superior) processors and amps will show the volume has how much they're attenuating the signal before pushing it to the amp. Max volume is letting it go through at full power, thus -0db. To get 10db quieter, you'd pull the power back, so -10db.
narfidy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. TIL
emilydm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this the hard way when I tried to play the beginning of Side B of Pink Floyd's The Final Cut through my aunt's powerful audiophile amplifier, marked thus. I figured the volume knob was just backwards, and 2 or 3 was reasonable.
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"Hey! Get your filthy hands off my desert!"
("What'd he say?")
(JET FLIES INTO LIVING ROOM, ENTIRE HOUSE REDUCED TO RUBBLE)
rawbface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah fucking right. Not a single digital tv I have owned has had linear volume control.
JesusMaryandJoesph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wierd I never realizee the creator of MineCraft was worth 30Dbs
toferdelachris ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:08:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
christian-mann ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit why am I never on time for this
Penguin_Out_Of_A_Zoo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Galaxy_Ranger_Bob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:41:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I've wondered about for a while.
My television volume display is a bar at the bottom of the screen, with a vertical bar at the beginning and end: |------------------|. The volume level is set with another vertical bar: |--|---------------|. In all the time I've had the television, never once has the volume been raised higher than were I've shown it here, not even to the quarter point of the potential volume of the television.
Why is there so much extra "loudness" available? If I turn it up to a quarter of the potential volume, the television is loud enough that I can hear it when I'm outside the house, with all the doors and windows closed, with a lawnmower running. I can't imagine anyone who is so deaf that they'd need to have it heard a few blocks away.
ObidiahWTFJerwalk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:39:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This one goes to 11."
micangelo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your TV is way too loud.
That's better.
theidleidol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents and I have TVs from the same manufacturer purchased less than a year apart. On my TV that first volume would blow out the speakers and your eardrums. On my parentsโ TV the top one is where it becomes audible at 5 ft.
Stalked_Like_Corn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Inlaws, I think they're all deaf or want the neighbors to hear what they're watching. I keep my tv at about 12 at max out of 50. It's at 10 right now. They keep theirs around 40-45 out of 50.
MagnusRune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
depends on tv, i have 2, one of them on 20 is as loud as the other on 100... i think its due to the age of the tv.. its like 20 years old..
evhan55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I needed that smile :)
overlord1305 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Stabfist_Frankenkill ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:28:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that "turn" is the operative word here, more so than "notch."
JDHannan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:45:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, you're not wrong
If you have a good audio system with a good receiver, it probably still has a big knob on it for volume though... but mine doesn't have notches :)
Robotic_Pedant ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:25:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The notches are so much better than the numbers. 37 sounds good, but what kind of monster leaves it on a number like 37?
L_Keaton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only acceptable volume settings are evens and fives.
zulu-bunsen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:58:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FTFY
delorean225 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/lossedits
ThePortalsOfFrenzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Notches are indentations. Many knobs had indentations that you could feel as the knob settled into one of many settings. Lines on the screen are not indentations.
hitemlow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still wish TVs would just tell you the volume in dB and let you adjust it in 0.01 increments.
Sometimes 12 is too quiet, but 13 is too loud...
And don't get me started on the TVs that only have odd numbers.
bluebledthesea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My volume bar needs more notches. I can only set it to even numbers but 12 is often too quiet and 14 is too loud, and there is no way in hell I can bring myself to set it to 13. (My therapist says this is nothing to be terribly concerned about.)
AndyMandalore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but you're not actually turning anything. You used to actually TURN the volume up or down, or turn the channel by turning the dial.
rush22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't literally turn it though
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rotary encoders actually have physical notches which they click into. You are taking the abstraction of that as a synonym for any quantized incrementation.
JDHannan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The question was not "which terms are not abstracted into a synonym for quantized incrementation?"
It was "lost their core relevance"
I'm claiming its still relevant because the notches are just different now
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naw dude, the little bars on TV are not "notches". A rotary encoder has literal notches cut into the surface, which is where the contact will engage and the circuit will close. Your idea of "a notch" as a unit is itself an abstraction of the idea of something with notches cut into it. I'm just pointing out that you're missing the origin, because you associate it as an abstract unit rather than a literal notch cut into something.
BaconReceptacle ยท 267 points ยท Posted at 16:01:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "turn the channels". It was literally a knob you turned to one of the 3 channels you had...at least until the knob broke and you had to use a pair of tweezers or pliers.
QuinstonChurchill ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 16:11:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep! I will never forget the pair of vice grips permanently attached to my TV because the knob broke off. Times were simpler then haha.
LittleComrade ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:34:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather used to have a screwdriver soldered into his (80s) computer for that purpose. The man was an engineer and could have easily replaced the original potentiometer with a new one with a sturdier knob, but I guess the screwdriver was easier. It really was odd, because I know he opened the computer up anyway when he soldered his turbo mode switch in, but the screwdriver stayed.
slnz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:23:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd call the times simpler when you don't have to fetch the toolbox just to turn on the news to be honest
jondough23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a vice grip working as a door knob for years before the door was replaced.
androgenoide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen one used as a steering wheel.
mrcassette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What crazy fool uses a door knob as a steering wheel?
androgenoide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least the vice grip gives a little leverage.
The_Finglonger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why wouldnโt you just 3d print a new one?
potatan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:03:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't just download a knob
sadmadmen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how we turn the temp control on one of older window mounted air conditioners
AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HA HA HA!
sadmanwithabox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how the knob on my parents dryer has been for the past 7 or 8 years, lol.
beenthereonce2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:54:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't flip channels?!
Cuchullion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:19:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I change the channel.
I flipped the channel once and the FCC fined me.
Gottahavemybowl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:15:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes you still hear someone say "don't touch that dial" before a tv or radio commercial break
FrostyBeav ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:05:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a remote control was one of your kids.
BonkeyKongCountry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:08:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first TV when I was a kid had buttons for each of about 13 channels.
brearose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard someone say that in real life. Everyone I've met says "change the channel".
get_N_or_get_out ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, me either. "Turn it up" or down as in volume for sure, but not channels.
stilesja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't have 3 channels. You had 12 on the VHF Dial (2-13) and something like 69 channels on the UHF dial. You would turn the VHF dial to to UHF and then turn the the UHF channel to the one you wanted to watch. I know this because when I was a kid I had to go change the channel for my parents so they didn't have to get up.
BaconReceptacle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course there were more channels on the dial. But most Americans only received 3. The shitty UHF channels weren't even worth looking at in my broadcast area.
Cardo94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this, I still say 'Turn over to something else'
i_want_that_boat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! And when a show was preparing for a commercial break they'd say, "Don't touch that dial!"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents had a tv with a knob until about 2003. Grade school me was so embarrassed when friends came over.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like people say 'change the channels' now though
wwwhistler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or referring to the remote as a "clicker:...the first remotes used sound to change the channel. the sound made by the remote "clicking" when pushed.
this was in the early 60s and was replaced by the IR remote in the 80s. only 20 years but the term is cemented in our collective memories.
oddly enough the remote control was an attempt to come up with something to help the public fight the proliferation of commercials on TV. which in the 60s/50s was 13 to 19 %......in 2017 it is now at 31%
Nodak70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You had three channels!? you must have been rich!!
middleagenotdead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You also had to "adjust the set". or move the antenna until you got a clear picture. Although I hear that antennas are making a comeback.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up watching a b&w TV and I think we only got three channels. It also had rabbit ears.
basquenv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was the remote control until 1983.
Fretfulwaffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad still calls the remote the clicker.
jrhooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
when you watched the tube?
bonus points for "boob tube" (no not a porn reference)
ChickenFarmer ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:30:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the phrase "turn on / off" a light also comes from these type of switches, right? At least that what they looked like here in my country. Don't know about the States.
whydoyoulook ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:45:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your picture gives a 404...
some-dev ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:06:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's no surprise, since if you check the source of his comment he has literally linked to "i.imgur.com/undefined.jpg"
derpado514 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:20:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the undefined ones.
Noice
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is really silly. Its like the picture themselves are running away.
tylerbrainerd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:43:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol why did I click on that link too
KptKrondog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel bad, we all do it. RES just makes us click on every image before we've finished reading the description.
-zimms- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:04:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a turn off.
shponglespore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The words they use in Spanish mean "ignite" and "extinguish", because candles.
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah that's cool.
namelessted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like how they call flashlights "torches" in the UK.
sosbor13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You used to be able to brighten or dim a lamp by turning the valve to it's oil supply. I think that's where "turn the light on/off" comes from.
wwwhistler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"flip the light"
ashwin911 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also some people call tv remotes clickers. Since one of the first remote literally made a clicking sound. When you click the button a spring will hit a rod inside the remote. The rod then vibrates and the TV will listen to its frequency to know which button was pressed. https://youtu.be/LOlBAH3Auis
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had no idea there were wired remotes till I watched The Wall. I had heard about clicking remotes though.
ottyk1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how widespread this is, but around here (Northern England) some people still refer to channels as "sides". I.e. "check the other side" means "see what's on the other channels". I guess this is a throwback to when the UK only had two channels?
brildenlanch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But there's notches on the screen, at the least a bar with an indicator that moves down one notch. So it's still pretty accurate.
generic-user-1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BAM!
rnelsonee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much a year "turn" like "turn your phone off" as well. Of course cell phones never had cranks to turn, but it's neat we just adopted that from either knob TV's or cranks (like old cars).
Seanrps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my amplifier still has a knob that i can turn! i use the remote most of the time but i still can change it with a knob.
MisterSympa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "tune in"! When knobs were used to manually select a broadcast station.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MisterSympa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does it still apply for digital?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MisterSympa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty cool.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MisterSympa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering how little I really understand this process, the oversimplification is very appreciated.
Virus64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My current TV doesn't even have buttons, that I'm aware of. Everything has to be done by remote.
Wyn6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a phrase that came along with radio and transferred to TV. The knob only gave you the "turn" part of the phrase as the knob itself neither went up or down. The up/down comes from the increase/decrease of the volume.
CARNIesada6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you can just be like me and say 'higher it' instead of turn it up
Zchavago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turnt up.
NotClever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure some commercial breaks will still say something like "don't touch that dial," too, but that's probably intentionally anachronistic to be goofy.
MattieShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My car (model year 2017) radio has a knob, with notches.
hawkwings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is up/down any more relevant to a knob than it is to a remote? Knobs go round. I'm confused by air conditioners. Does turning it up make it colder or hotter?
airbreather02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Pass me the clicker." (Remote control)
OFTHEHILLPEOPLE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "Tune In!"
No more tuning with antenna anymore.
Fen_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't really a valid one since "up/down a notch" exists outside of that context anyways. Applying it to TVs would have always been fine even if that tech wasn't used on TVs physically. It's the way people understand interacting with those sorts of systems in general and doesn't have to rely on a knob or dial.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fake news.
NotFromReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radio DJs saying "don't touch that dial".
TasteTheRaimbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not my tv, but our sound system still uses a knob
shokalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a TV with knobs on it when I was a lot younger but they were all smooth adjusting ones without detents. Man it was posh!
SpookyLlama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a good one. A lot of these are things that have gradually become obsolete over 15-20 years.
This one has been gone for nearly a lifetime.
xyifer12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless reddit app is glitching again and showing your comment in the wrong thread, you're wrong.
TVs still have volume notches, and those TVs are still sold.
thatserver ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:41:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who says notch?
QuinstonChurchill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people that I know....
graveybrains ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 17:09:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I head a couple of teenagers on the local high school radio station yesterday talking about videotaping the Halsey concert they just went to with their cellphones.
HugoM ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They probably got it from their parents and they don't even know why.
Drakmanka ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:21:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say filming myself, and I grew up at the very tail end of cassette-based media.
Oxideist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I'm only in my early twenties and I had VHS until I was in middle school.
throwawaybreaks ยท 235 points ยท Posted at 15:48:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humo(u)rous
Relic of a flawed, medieval, medical paradigm. It has nothing to do with being funny.
Originally meant you had a lot of fluids.
jammerjoint ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 18:43:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not actually that far off. People believed that the bodily fluids influenced your mood. In that sense, "humour" was synonymous with "demeanor." It's even used that way today in some cases. Therefore, humorous could very well mean that you were funny, if applied in a certain context.
donkey_tits ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:45:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also believed lunar activity was the reason people were lunatics. And that a woman's uterus was the source of hysteria. Ancient medicine was weird.
Mythodiir ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:24:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were mostly just guessing and having fun, and at the end of the day, isn't that what medicine's about? People these days are too hung up on facts. I say we bring back leeches.
tinybugger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh! Actually, we still use leeches. I work for a large teaching hospital with a special lab that houses our leeches.
PseudonymIncognito ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:05:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the historic treatment for female hysteria was manual stimulation until the woman experienced "hysterical paroxysm" (i.e. orgasm). The vibrator was invented in the 19th century to help automate this treatment because doctors of the era found administering it to be so tedious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:30:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lunacy-and-the-full-moon/
nathanielKay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:40:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow - that is an intersting article- thanks!
donkey_tits ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personally I'm not so quick to dismiss the idea that a full moon affects behavior. The placebo effect is a very real thing. It might not increase the number of X and Y events happening, but that doesn't mean it has no effect whatsoever
Mythodiir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The moon's gravity also effects the tide which effects the wind.
Combine that with its varying brightness on certain nights, and if you sleep outside it can significantly affect your mood. I assume.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are you measuring "effect"?
It's also not being quick to dismiss something if, after a meta-analysis, it is shown not to have any effect. There is no research which supports the idea that the full moon has any effect on human behaviour.
OggiBenDoggy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:10:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or calm if you are phlegmatic or sanguine if you are upbeat.
pjjmd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sanguine is still used today, although generally with a more negative connotation. Someone who is sanguine is incorrectly optimistic. 'I'm not overly sanguine about that bargain being struck' or 'He was sanguine at the opportunities for advancement during the layoffs.'
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also still used as a color for blood red. Since it literally comes from the latin word for blood.
Mythodiir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought of "sanguine" as a synonym for bloody, though it's a quite rare word so I was never exact on its meaning. I just know "sang" is blood in French.
pjjmd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does mean blood, but it's modern use is associated with the 4 humours school of medicine. So Black Bile, Phlegm, Blood, and Yellow Bile, which were thought to control peoples tempermants. Keeping these 4 humors in balance was thought to be optimal. Someone with 'too much blood' was considered 'Sanguine' and had the associated traits.
It's kinda archaic now, and you definitely aren't the only person who mistakes it for meaning 'bloody' in a more literal sense. I've seen some bad fiction writers describe a 'sanguine' crime scene, or a vampire's 'sanguinary lust'.
Mythodiir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Sometimes it just seems to mean "relating to blood".
pjjmd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not going to say folks are wrong to use it that way, but it does cause some confusion. It's an odd word choice if you are just looking to say something is covered in blood. It's archaic and it has a bunch of unrelated connotations. I know some folks do it, but it always smacks as thesaurus abuse, not careful word choice.
Kolaru ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm assuming thatโs the connection to having dry humour
Alis451 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:31:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good Humor actually, "You are Full of Good Humor Today" You look like you are doing well/felling happy
Dry Humor is afterwards describing your Funny joke like a Dry Wine, it is good, but makes your mouth pucker a little bit
iamasuitama ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hacking this thread to tell you in Dutch we have the word humor which means the same, and humeur which means mood.
araxhiel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who speaks Spanish natively, I couldn't help myself to read (and pronounce in my mind) humor as in Spanish and humeur as if it were a French word, so, I'm genuinely curious:
How both words sound in Dutch?
(And considering that a while ago a swedish guy told me how to pronounce a Dutch name (Arjen), I'm must say that in pretty clueless)
iamasuitama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The eu has the same sound as in french. Like รถ in German. So I guess, try to imagine a German pronouncing those words? Maybe like Spanish and French but the h is an actual sound? Sorry don't know how else to explain it. I don't know IPA :)
araxhiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I got what you mean, I mean, I can imagine (more or less) the German pronunciation of those words.
Thanks for the explanation :)
(BTW, I need to learn to read/interpret IPA ๐)
iamasuitama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:51 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Congrats on pronouncing Arjen ;)
araxhiel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:59 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks :) I needed to, as my kiddo has that name ๐ (and also it's the name of someone that I admire so much)
I'm still a little unsure, but while I didn't hear a proper pronunciation from a Dutch person :P I'll stick with the current way haha
araxhiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if the "humerus" is somehow etymological related with "humor"....
jammerjoint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are both Latin words, separate meanings.
MisterSympa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yes, the four humours. Thank you, Shakespeare class in high school.
librlman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because they're just takin' the piss outta ya, mate!
neoslith ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:45:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The funny bone is humorus.
DumbMuscle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See also: Sanguine, phlegmatic, choleric, and melancholic
And now I write those out, it kinda bugs me that it's not "sanguic".
throwawaybreaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never trust Germanic barbarians with romance roots, they borrow them in obliques and apply arbitrary adjectival suffices...suffixes...suffici?
kiranr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'd like to hear him demonstrate this 'beef box' thing."
BTFoundation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fluids can be funny.
Bay1Bri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh baby you're so humorous right now!"
HowIsntBabbyFormed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hysterical.
oldenberg ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 16:38:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your horses.
scribble23 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:12:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was suddenly reminded of the time I said this to my two year old. He ran upstairs and returned riding his hobby horse!
halberdierbowman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dark Horse parody
--Key of Awesome
https://youtu.be/wvYRQ-sFMJw
EntroperZero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must have been chomping at the bit to post that one.
oldenberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah I get it!
hi_im_haze ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:14:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windfall. Originally literal, in reference to wood or fruit blown down by the wind, and thus free to all.
Chardeemacdennis2 ยท 293 points ยท Posted at 15:35:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"i'm going to tape that film/show" talking about recording it on our Sky box.
Declanmar ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:51:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For Americans: Sky box = DVR.
Skeeter_BC ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:20:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over here a sky box is a suite reserved for VIPs at sporting events.
cygodx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:06:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So all those VIPs taping the game with their phones are literally taping it
oin a sky boxZanzabushino ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:56:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imaged the Skybox as a euphemism for The TARDIS.
Then it got me thinking, "Wow, British people REALLY like Doctor Who
raendrop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The TARDIS is awesome. Why would it need a euphemism?
toeonly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that has been replaced by "dvr" as a verb. For example I am dvring that show.
mrschestnyspurplehat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i say tape, too! in regards to recording something on tv, but also "taping" something with my phone, like a video. it's just an old habit.
Merry_Birthday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A fellow Brit, I see?
Chardeemacdennis2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup
jbsgc99 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why call it "film"? It was likely recorded digitally.
Xenasis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Britain, it's just a synonym for movie. Let's not forget that "movie" is also a bit of a silly word these days, of course it moves.
Chardeemacdennis2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most British people call movies films.
jbsgc99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:49 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand, it's just outdated, like the OP is discussing.
alexander_wolf88 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:14:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steam rollers haven't been powered with steam in a long time
Wierd657 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:13:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was because the cylinders are heated with steam to help the asphalt cure.
CrazyJay10 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:50:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always called them steam rollers until I experienced the the more modern name via a 19th century vampire
jaavaaguru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And they've been called road rollers all throughout my lifetime.
zjm555 ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 16:29:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the world of computing:
UGMadness ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:55:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also terminal itself. It used to refer to a dumb end user interface (the "terminal" part, as in terminus) of a shared mainframe. A terminal emulator just emulates that on the same machine you're going to execute the command at.
Also, X.org still uses the server-client paradigm because it was designed with terminals and mainframes in mind. That's why in *nix programs still need an X client (nowadays integrated on the DE like Gnome and Mutter, but there are also standalone clients like i3) to provide a GUI, and the OS needs to run an X server on boot.
dryingsocks ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:33:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i3 is not an X client, but a window manager. Every window's content is its own X client. This is why you don't have to get yourself a whole desktop via the network, but can run a single program remotely, managing it in your local machine's window manager
SheeEttin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can even run X without a window manager if you really really want to. It's not all that useful these days.
DodoDude700 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:36:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still really like X's client/server approach. It's always fun to set DISPLAY to my SGI O2 and launch Firefox so as to have it appear on the IRIX desktop. Much better than the bundled Mozilla/Netscape, or the (buggy) port of Firefox 3.
HowIsntBabbyFormed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:02:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just to be pedantic, the program the user wants to run is an X client, which might be run locally or on a remote host. And the computer displaying the program to the user is running the X server.
It's kind of backwards compared to how we usually think of client-server communications where the client program is running where the end user is and the server is remote.
So the X server that you're running on your local computer might be displaying a mix of programs running locally and on any number of different hosts.
hummusimful ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, it goes a bit further back - to the train system. A terminal is the building at which the train line terminates, i.e. ends.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first computer "bug" was a literal moth that got into the vacuum tubes and caused a short in the computer.
Rubberfootman ยท 1094 points ยท Posted at 16:01:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre all talking about the floppy disk icon, but an icon itself used to be small representation of Jesus or a saint.
Also, I still โdrawโ a bowl of water even though we have neither a pump or a well.
nrith ยท 762 points ยท Posted at 16:26:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that is old-fashioned. I haven't heard that in years.
Threwmeawayyye ยท 360 points ยท Posted at 16:43:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bringing me back to the days when Iโd hear โdraw a bath.โ
Chaost ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 18:40:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's at least still used.
I-baLL ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:41:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, in art classes and architectural firms.
jon_titor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And PBS dramas.
ennui_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Common in England.
Edit: the saying. Unsure of how well PBS dramas are doing there.
I-baLL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do PBS dramas regularly show people drawing?
TheColorsDuke ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:44:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Draw me like one of your French baths"
TinuvielsHairCloak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:41:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's used all the time in the South of the US. At least where I live. In fact "drawing water" is pretty much understood even if it's a bit more uncommon for me to hear someone say they've drawn water for tea or soup or their cattle.
razzdraz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I use that when referring to my toddler's bath. The first time I said this to my partner she was confused...
ie. "Can you draw him a bath while I get dinner ready?"
Threwmeawayyye ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha! My mom said this
I think I remember being old enough to think to myself at some point โwhy is she saying that? We arenโt drawing anything! you canโt even draw in the tub, itโll get wetโ
Marsandtherealgirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw draw a bath. Iโm 33.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:03:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
. . . I still say "draw a bath".
Kazu_the_Kazoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say that but for some reason only when I draw a bath for someone else, which I almost never do but my mom did for me all the time as a kid when I was sick and she always said it that way. But she is from the south so maybe it is just a southern thing as another commenter said and I picked it up from her.
Aspalar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From southeast US... What else do you say when you want someone to draw you a bath?
Threwmeawayyye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From northeast USA we kinda just say โtake a bathโ lol
So, when drawing a bath, it might be referred to as โfill the tubโ
Purplociraptor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:25:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/shittywatercolor
ARealBillsFan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he retired
wootlesthegoat ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:59:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh. I draw a bath. (Not as often as I like)
LordSoren ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:13:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't heard of drawing a bowl, but drawing a bath would be from the same root term?
mainsworth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:46:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear 'draw a bath' but never 'draw a bowl'
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:54:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AnorexicManatee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Loved those books growing up
bradfo83 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:32:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same - the only time I use "draw" in that context is for a bath.
fucklawyers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im 31, I donโt know what else to call filling the bathtub!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:21:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about "filling the bathtub"?
namelessted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mostly still here it fairly frequently about beers. Though, I think it's more recent with the massive resurgence of local craft breweries in the US over the past 5-10 years.
Lessa22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say that. Didnโt occur to me until this moment that it was probably out of common usage.
usofunnie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not a bowl of water, but what about drawing a bath?
nrith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother may have said this, but other than from her and in movies, I haven't heard it in 30 years.
Virge23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing they're from the UK or Australia maybe.
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, English - and Northern too, which might explain things.
[deleted] ยท 382 points ยท Posted at 16:41:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Rubberfootman ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 16:44:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hadnโt thought of that. I say โdraw a bowl of waterโ but really Iโm filling the sink - from the tap. The sink in the bathroom is still called a hand basin.
Maybe I am 95 years old. Shit.
CGB_Zach ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 17:20:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A hand basin? Wtf, I don't think I've ever heard a sink referred to as this. Just curious, where do you live?
Rubberfootman ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 17:31:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Northern England (at least thatโs where I grew up). My mum was very hot on us not calling it a sink, so I guess it was the polite, middle class name for it.
Iโm currently drumming it into my children, so it lives for another generation.
UGMadness ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 17:40:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, the Shire, eh?
Rubberfootman ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:44:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hehe, not far off. A green, pleasant and backward place that was then spoiled by dark satanic mills.
RadarLakeKosh ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:41:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, Satanic Mills? That's the classy new apartment complex isn't it?
Rubberfootman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:47:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldnโt put it past them.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:57:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Rubberfootman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bless her. But they were doomed well before that. My dad worked in a garment mill, he did the sums. He said that towards the end, the only way they could compete with factories from the Far East would be not to pay the workers, or the utilities.
levigu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sheffield?
Rubberfootman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Behave yourself. Burnley.
levigu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coming from deepest, darkest Sunderland, you all might as well be southerners.
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pft! Just cause youโre further up the map doesnโt make you more Northern.
ModerateDanger ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:19:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sinks belong in kitchens. If it's in a bathroom, it's a basin.
Handbasins are for washing your hands. Washbasins are for having a wash. Console basins sit on a console. etc.
Dranharelo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:57:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a bunch of types of sinks.
8hole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre the only family in the north that talks like this.
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Middle class innit. School was fun.
horsenbuggy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:07:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in home building for 14 years. Basin is the technical term for the bowl of a sink. Like you can have a cabinet sink or a pedestal sink. They will both have basins but one will be on a pedestal and one will be recessed into a cabinet. Or in a master bath, it's more common to set the basin in a countertop. But the generic term that regular people use is just sink. It covers all these options.
CGB_Zach ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:33:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh ok, I've heard wash basin before and just thought of those as the deep sinks that we used when I worked in a deli. Didn't know it was more commonly used than that and never would've referred to my bathroom sink as a hand basin. Now I've thought about the word basin so much it doesn't sound real. Thanks for the info though.
minddropstudios ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, wash basin is still really common, even here in the U.S. That's the common term I have heard for any very large sink.
horsenbuggy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:55:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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JohnnyCanuck79 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:06:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mushroom mushroom
mrwillbobs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:39:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also from northern England, also have commonly heard the phrase hand basin, or just basin
ChrissiTea ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:41:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many cardigans do you own? And how many handkerchiefs are in the sleeves?
I would ask about Werthers but any Brit will happily take one when offered.
kilogttam ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:45:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im sure their whole chifferobe is full of cardigans. The one thats in the boudoir.
horsenbuggy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:04:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But did he hire someone to bust up his chifferobe?
Rubberfootman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That way trouble lies.
minddropstudios ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:52:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why wouldn't anyone take a Werthers if offered? I'm not even old or Brittish!
ChrissiTea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't want to assume it was an international thing, it's always felt inherently British to me. My bad!
goodvibeswanted2 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:13:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Draw a bath would sound less awkward and be more common, but still uncommon.
abhikavi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'd use 'draw' exclusively for large amounts (not a glass of water, but a sink or a bath).
In the case of bath I'm not actually sure what else I'd use. Fill the bath? Water the tub?
goodvibeswanted2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:51:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Run a bath? Run water? Fill up the tub?
abhikavi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, run a bath. I guess I blanked on that one.
DaleLaTrend ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:21:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't remember the last time I needed to fill the sink with water.
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Havenโt you run out of clean plates yet?
DaleLaTrend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a dishwasher.
middleagenotdead ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:48:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would you prefer "drawing a bath". I still hear that one used a lot.
pumbaa401 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:20:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a 23 yo guy I still draw a bath and fill up the basin to shave etc
not-scp-1715 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and here i assumed you had a dog or something.....
BaddoBab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only one way to find out: take a saw, cut horizontally and count the rings.
Rubberfootman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brb
Category3Water ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it makes you feel any better, I heard all those terms growing millennially in rural Alabama. Though, we did have well water, so that might be part of it.
KittyChimera ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't people still say "draw a bath" though?
Rubberfootman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at some of my replies, Iโd say yes, but it isnโt too common.
KittyChimera ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird. Maybe I'm also just secretly old.
TomLube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the hell get out of here Dracula
danomite736 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:32:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably more common to say "draw a bath"
scribble23 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:54:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I say drawing a bowl of water of drawing a bath. I'm 41 and in the UK - definitely not 95 yet ;-) My mother would correct me if I said 'run a bath' when I was a kid (a bit like when I'd ask 'can I have' something and she'd say 'Yes, you MAY' have whatever it was.
Rubberfootman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you my brother?
scribble23 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:18:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most definitely not, unless I've forgotten having gender surgery. Suspect our mothers were both members of the Pedants Union though.
Rubberfootman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very much so. Iโm now inflicting it on my children.
scribble23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. Nothing better than when they ask for a 'just a bit' of a drink and you get to hiss 'just a DROP!' at them...
MasteringTheFlames ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:34:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fill a bowl of water for my dog quite often. I don't "draw" a bowl of water though, because I'm a terrible artist
JestaKilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a dog?
Chazzysnax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What, you just let your pets go thirsty?
beepbeep_meow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 34 and I say "draw a bath".
Coffeezilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty common terminology in the south where some houses and communities still get water via well.
Ganjisseur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You clearly donโt own pets.
Or eat cereal with water.
yepthatguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some days I just don't feel like making my oatmeal with a base of Coca-Colaโข.
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently used a bowl of water to encourage a swarm of ants to leave my porch. Buckets are generally more effective though.
Bowls of water are great for soaking rags and also for seeing when that bowl of ice you left out and forgot about has melted.
oO0-__-0Oo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not all that uncommon in some parts of the U.S. to say "draw a bath"
Revorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
when all the cups are dirty.
springloadedgiraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about "draw a bath". I still hear that.
Headpuncher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am dog. Internet thirst work wen type wit paw.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A pet?
MrMeem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A thirsty dog scenario.
ParksVS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We draw water samples all the time. That's about the only time I use the term though.
accionerdfighter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To soak his dentures, probably.
trudat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear it more commonly when referring to a bath.
Mecha-Godzilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For pets
L0sername777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bowl of watet for a visiting doggo?
Butterscotch_007 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:28:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To draw a bath?
Aspalar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:02:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You still draw a bath
simple1689 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:48:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You English mate?
Rubberfootman ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:49:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very.
Private_Hazzard ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:09:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm terribly sorry.
Rubberfootman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:11:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
monocle falls out
Nightstalker117 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:34:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in Birmingham. The fuck you at?
Rubberfootman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nottingham.
Nightstalker117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My history teacher is from Nottingham. Fun guy
Rubberfootman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:43:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is a great city. I came here to go to uni 20-odd years ago and never left.
Nightstalker117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice
TinuvielsHairCloak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't uncommon where I live either. I'm in the Southern US though near Appalachia. Or in it, actually.
Shadowkyzr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:17:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the "save icon" is simply some "save savior" sign?
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:44:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OP is using a super narrow definition of icon here and I'm inclined to say he's wrong. A quick look at my Greek-English lexicon shows that the Greek word for image (eikone) is used in contexts of describing, referring top scribes/copyists, to referring to portrait makers and images in general.
KancerFox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. And icon just means an image that refers to something. An icon of Jesus refers to Jesus. And icon of the save image refers to saving. An icon of Facebook refers to the Facebook app, etc.
Shadowkyzr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homie, I appreciate the research, but it's a joke.
Theban_Prince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you are trying to see what the Greek "Eikona" means, its the equivelent of "image" in english, and in a more strict term means specifically religious paintings.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:24:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point moreso is that the term is quite broad in ancient usage.
Granted, it is contentious as to whether or not compound words can be strictly understood by strictly referring back to their individual components, but image shows up in interesting ways. It seems fair to suggest that it had connotations outside of images.
Added: even in the religious usage elements of this broader usage remains. People who create icons do not "draw" or "paint" icons, the proper terminology is they "write" icons.
Theban_Prince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do not understand what you are trying to day with the "added". In Greek, the modern at least, the words for "to paint" and "to write" are completely different.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A) I did not claim they were, I said that the verb used is to write when it comes to icons, not that to write and to paint are the same
B) In some quick research (including flipping through what little texts I have on Eastern Orthodoxy), it seems that the concept of writing icons is likely an peculiar aspect to the Orthodox as it exists in North America. I have heard from a variety of sources, from within the Orthodox tradition (Greek Orthodox priest) from second-hand (a classmate of mine is good friends with a Greek Orthodox iconographer), that icons are written not drawn. A quick look reveals that Orthodox theologians outside of North America favour the language of painting icons (it is at least more intuitive) while North Americans are more likely to talk of writing icons.
There seems to be some debate on whether this use of the verb is helpful. Some say it's just a bad translation of the Greek, I saw one source that suggested that this is actually a Russian Orthodox influence in North American religious expression, but also saw that this is true to the Koine usage of the term -- namely that there would be a distinction because painting as something non-serious while serious artistic works were written (regardless of whether or not they were text). An iconographer's profession is literally image-writing, but whether or not breaking down compound words like that is helpful is (of course) debatable.
But, the lexicon I'm referring to notes several pre-Christian usages of the use of "grapho" as meaning "caused to be painted" (citing as noteworthy examples Leonidas Tarentinus' and Herodotus) in Middle Greek. My less-than-academic Googling suggests that this usage might have continued into Koine Greek.
Theban_Prince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the confusion stems from miunderstanding the verb "Grapho" witch means "to write" and the similar compound word (probably from the same root) for the guy that makes holy paintings/icons = "Hagiographos" . However that second compound also exists on the Greek word for the normal painter = "Zohgraphos" and ofcourse the verb for "to paint" = "Zohgraphizo" . The ending "-graphos" is used with almost anything that has to do with painting/sketching something, another example, "Hartographos" meaning "Mapmaker".
From that you also get the english word "Graphics".
Rubberfootman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do think โsaveโ is short for?
Shadowkyzr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:28:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Secure
And
Validate
E-stuff
Rubberfootman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:32:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is probably the most torturous backronym Iโve ever seen. Bravo!
mymonstersprotectme ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:45:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard "draw a bath" used before, but I've never heard "draw a bowl of water" before. Mind you, I use "pour", which isn't really accurate to getting it from the sink either.
GodMonster ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:32:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you use the right Windows theme an icon can still be a small representation of Jesus or a saint.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:36:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The usage is MUCH older. While icons in the Christian world have typically meant this, but here's some other words from the ancient Greek world that use the same root (eikone, or image):
All of these usages are ones that predate the New Testament, let alone the Christian practice of icongraphy (which Tradition dates backs to Luke, IIRC).
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
Erityeria ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:17:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a well, and a pump. We draw a bath every time.
credit_questionsss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought draw had the same etymology of draft (draught) and referred to anything coming out of a faucet.
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get your meaning - draught beer, but I think it is older than that: drawing a bow, drawing a carriage, drawing water from a well. A pump draws water up a pipe.
lejefferson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally have never head anyone say that. Draw a bath I have heard but even that is old. Technically you're still "drawing" by the way by pulling it from the pipe. The process is automatic but it still happening.
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was no doubt old when I acquired it. My great grandparents were born in the 1870s - not too long after mains water appeared in the UK.
plaisthos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The German word Ikone still is. Icon is translated to Icon
theolat3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Icon is actually just the greek word for image, so ฮตฮนฮบฯฮฝฮนฯฮผฮฑ (ikonisma) specifically is religious imagery.
MHG73 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:40:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US, you only ever hear people say they're going to "draw a bath" but never anything else.
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is peculiar that is has mostly survived in that context.
MHG73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not really sure why. I never thought much about it, honestly.
TinuvielsHairCloak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard draw a bowl for filling the basin too. I live in southern Appalachia though.
MHG73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was born and raised in New England, and have never heard the expression draw a bowl. I also don't know anyone who calls their sink a basin.
TinuvielsHairCloak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never left Appalachia. Just moved from northern to southern and I actually know we have a lot of odd words. Like referring to the trunk of the car as the boot and calling bathroom sinks basins. It's not even universal here, just more common than apparently it is in the rest of the US.
Reddittrip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah. I used to go to a bar and ask for a draw, which was a beer on tap.
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve never heard that before. Whereabouts?
Reddittrip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Denver
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool. Every dayโs a school day.
timthetollman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit are you like 200?
servohahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard of anyone drawing a bowl of water. In fact, that's a silly example I'm thinking, what do you need a bowl of water for? To freshen the towel on someone's forehead when they have a fever?
I have heard of people "drawing" a bath, though.
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same verb though. Presumably from when people did actually wash at a bowl of water.
servohahn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get it. But why would you draw a bowl of water? That's something you said you still do. For pets or something?
Rubberfootman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, I wasnโt clear. To draw a bowl of water is to fill the bathroom sink with water. The action, and indeed the object has changed, but the intent hasnโt.
TomasTTEngin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
iconoclast, which has come to mean someone who breaks the mould, used to refer to people who would go round smashing moulded icons.
A bit like the video Trump tweeted the other day of the man smashing the statue of Virgin mary.
CAMYGO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โYouโre all talking about the floppy disk icon, but an icon itself used to be small representation of Jesus or a saint. โ
Icons still are important elements in Orthodox Christianity and are very much a part of modern practice.
jaavaaguru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes sense - the floppy disk icon saves, just like Jesus.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 19:15:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Rubberfootman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs not very nice.
[deleted] ยท 260 points ยท Posted at 21:55:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GO AWAY BUZZFEED.
Millerboycls09 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:00:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You won't believe these top 10 outdated terms, and I bet you don't know where they came from!!!
brownsquared ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:24:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? I immediately thought this when reading along - tomorrows buzzfeed headline, then poorly written versions by all the other half a sentence a page list websites like click hole
shleppenwolf ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 18:52:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blueprint. It's an archaic process for reproducing engineering drawings, and it's been almost totally replaced by various computer printer processes.
Even in its heyday, blueprint only meant a copy: the entity that defines a bit of design work is a drawing.
mnorri ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:47:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Blueprints themselves were replaced by Bluelines a long time ago.
agentkolter ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:07:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every once in a while I see architects and engineers in movies act like they're drawing on a blueprint. That's not how it works! Clearly, we've forgotten that a blueprint is a copy.
Tar_alcaran ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:41:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly how it works. You work on a blueprint and when you figure out where the lines go and what crosses where, then you change the original drawing.
Even with modern CAD software, scribbling on a big printout together is amazing to get ideas going.
agentkolter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean you see people in movies writing on a blue sheet with white lines on it, sorry for the confusion.
timthetollman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:57:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea that's exactly how it works.
Himekat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I did theater lighting design in college, we had a blueprint machine that took your pencil-and-tracing-paper plan and made it into a blueprint. I remember being shocked at how it was done.
I donโt know how 18-year-old me used to think blueprints were made, but that sure wasnโt it.
imakenosensetopeople ยท 1314 points ยท Posted at 15:26:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cell phone. Nope, theyโre now just computers that happen to be able to make and receive phone calls.
ChickenFarmer ยท 700 points ยท Posted at 15:32:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember a friend's kid pointing at a "phone" symbol at the airport and asking what it means. When he told him it's a symbol for telephone, the little girl was quite confused, because she had never seen a telephone that looked like that.
[deleted] ยท 497 points ยท Posted at 16:17:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AllCheeseEverything ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:14:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first time my oldest daughter ever saw a telephone toy, she was 2 1/2 and picked up, put it to her ear and said "Hello, Mommy?" And then pointed at my phone to make me answer. I still don't know how she immediately knew what it's purpose was, but it made sense to her.
SonicN ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 16:28:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"regular phones"
Killzark ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:26:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm currently holding and typing this on what we now refer to as a regular phone.
Aellus ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:00:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, kids have old school phones on their toys but they don't know what they are. I have a 1 and a 3 year old. They've never picked up the toy phone handsets on some of their toys and used it like a pretend phone. Usually it's just something to use as a drum stick. But anything rectangular/glassy (baby monitor, remotes, etc) they will hold to their ear and pretend to talk to people.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Mike_Handers ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:49:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
idk, I don't call old black and white silent film regular movies.
PM_ME_YOUR_PM_MEMES ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:12:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're "regular" because they only do the phone thing without anything extra on top. Maybe "basic" would be a better term.
DannyMThompson ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:21:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb Phones
FaceTheTruthBiatch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:40:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that the medical term ?
PseudonymIncognito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda like people who still call a manual transmission a "standard transmission" even though fewer and fewer cars in the US offer them as an option, much less as standard equipment.
xanaxhelps ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:07:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My best friend's toddler has a toy phone. He drags it around by the hand-piece. He plays "phone" with a flat piece of duplo.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:41:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need a very old phone for it to actually look like a telephone symbol. Most landline phones have been cordless for ages, and don't normally have the characteristic bend. The kid might have seen a toy phone but not realized what it's supposed to be.
Roupert2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my kid is 4 and has known since age 2 that regular phones exist and how you hold them up to your ear. Sure, they see cell phones a million times more, but they don't grow up not knowing what an old school phone is. That being said, I could see my 4 year old potentially not recognizing a symbol.
billion_dollar_ideas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah who has never seen a landline phone? Payphone, every single office I've ever been in, etc all have phones. Even kids toys like you said have regular old phones.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Assuming a kid would understand what an old phone is, even though they've never seen one, because they saw an icon of one on some toy is a bit like expecting you to be able to read Greek text of an object that you picked up once, even though you've never seen Greek before.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:33:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not going to argue with you that these toys aren't common, but even if they're available to half of kids, then the other half of kids might not see them (or not see them often enough to be really familiar with them). Searching amazon for "kids kitchen set", lots of these do include phones, but toy cell phones seem just as common as landline phones in them. I have two daughters (the oldest is six), and I don't remember owning a toy landline phone.
Lizardrevenge ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of kids don't see cows in real life, but see them in books or as toys. Why is it unreasonable to assume the same for phones?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:19:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because kids see cows in books about cows where they teach kids that "cows say moo" and that farmers own cows, etc. There are comparatively few picture books about landline phones.
Juicy_Brucesky ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:47:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this might be the worst analogy i've read all day. Good job, you're an idiot
MarlinMr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give a child an old phone toy. What is he going to do? He has no idea what it is. Give him a smart phone toy. What is he going to do? He has no idea what it is. Except, he will se his mommy and daddy using a similar device to talk to and look at videos. He will emulate that.
rawbface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am sitting at my desk at work looking at one right now. My building has hundreds of them.
battraman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter sees these all the time at her grandparents' houses (both sets) and great grandmother's house. Living in rural areas requires the use of landline phones still. Desk phones are still extremely common at offices. I don't think they ever declined much.
1840_NO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im 28 and even though I saw them occasionally growing up, they weren't common enough for me to associate them with the typical look of a phone. By the new millennium, cell phones were affordable and even before them, the shape of home phones had evolved into a more streamlined design.
scruffeius ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 16:37:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's weird. The icon to make a call on a smart phone is just the regular old phone icon.
WinEpic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:35:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but nobody uses them for that.
Nekyn_Alb ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:55:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They may have never used a phone, could just have seen smart phones only so far.
bosco9 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:15:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old school phones are still in use in offices everywhere, it's like fax machines, I doubt they'll completely dissapear anytime soon
UGMadness ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fax machines are so stealthy that people wouldn't notice they're looking at one if you put one in front of their faces.
hawksgirl4life ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:19:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in my late 20s and seriously had to have someone show me how to fax from our multifunctional device at work when I started my job at 23. I obviously knew what a fax was, but had never needed to or known how to send one.
TheCatWantsOut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair, multifunctional devices have a pretty high learning curve
hawksgirl4life ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:47:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but I did already know how to do everything else the thing does! I was legitimately intimidated by figuring out the fax thing...
BornVillain04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if it's an HP.
Mike_Handers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many kids go to offices?
CuvisTheConqueror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's one of the design touches on the Nextbit Robin that I thought was clever - instead of an old-school phone handset, the dialer icon is a picture of the Robin itself.
Sophex_Ekko ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:52:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something somewhat similar. One of my friend's little brothers asked if the 911 emergency number was named after 9/11.
Horzzo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:04:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lost my phone and had to make a call last year. I could NOT find a payphone for the life of me. There are the spots for them at gas stations but none of them have pay phones.
Strange times.
Mike_Handers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't think those existed anymore in America at the very least.
simjanes2k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:29:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my son is 15 months old and he thinks phones are literally just toys
i'm not sure he has ever seen someone put one to their ear and talk on it
who does that anymore
A_BOMB2012 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:40:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But theyโre still used in stores and offices.
shadowgattler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:10:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people not have home or office phones? Every job I've worked at had one
try_____another ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know quite a lot of people who only have cordless phones, or keep the wired phone in their bedroom or home office. My office phone doesnโt look like a traditional phone either.
HalfManHalfCyborg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean the bendy bone thing?
merpancake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Little kids are creative though. Here's a list of what my son has used as a phone: my actual smartphone, the remote for the TV, a toy remote, my lipstick, a sock, and the ripped half of a board book. A phone is whatever he can grab when he wants to play pretend.
Lousy24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that now when kids pretend they are talking on a phone that they just hold their hand flat up to their face, imitating what a smart phone looks like, instead of holding their pinky and thumb out, like the "hang loose" hand symbol.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My niece couldnโt understand why my ancient Nokia didnโt have a touchscreen or colour.
twoBrokenThumbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's also the same symbol on a smart phone for voice calling.
nr1988 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're at the airport just tell her to look at the ticketing desks, there will be a phone like in the symbol there.
nelsonbm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its going to be weird seeing how the new generations grow up.. I was born 1999 and allready these kids' childhoods are so different than mine.
spookyjohnathan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean the red bendy bone thing?
Ekudar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A guy just called the phone icon a "bendy bone" in this same thread
LemonJongie23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/thathappened
LotusPrince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See also: holding your pinky finger to your mouth and your thumb to your ear to indicate talking on a phone. Kids might not understand that anymore.
kingslayerer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time to build a museum of 10 year old stuff.
busty_cannibal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually, kids learn about phones and phone booths from 80s-90s movies. Is your friend not showing his kid the movies he watched as a kid? That's kind of sad.
agentkolter ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 16:38:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet very few people could explain the term cellular. In most other places in the world, they're just called mobile phones.
wootlesthegoat ยท 179 points ยท Posted at 17:03:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In German it's called a 'handy'.
My 13yo hind brain finds this hilarious.
nukjam ยท 161 points ยท Posted at 18:05:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a family friend from Germany visiting. While out on an errand and having forgotten his phone, he said the following to me in English:
Him: "I need a handy." Me: "[Uhhhh] What was that?" Him: "My cell phone. We call them 'handys in German."
His response when I informed him what a 'handy' meant in American English was very German:
"Ah yes, of course."
[deleted] ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 18:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:14:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also you could have been asking for rain boots. Rubbers.
collin-h ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:30:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid we always referred to sandals (specifically the ones that would have that one bit that would go between your big and middle toes) as "thongs". I don't really hear that much anymore.
tyler-daniels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:12:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still called that in Australia but I believe the US uses the term "flip-flops".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:51 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Florida so those shoes are called flip flops. I have heard those sandals though referred to as thongs.
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had an Australian girl in my high school english class. We were talking about movies and I said my favorite movie was a "spoof" of a fameous film. She lost her shit laughing.
Turns out "spoof" is slang for cum
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:58:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spaceballs?
IveAlreadyWon ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:08:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"So about that handy..."
HeirOfHouseReyne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even though I've known a lot more Germans, whenever I read an English phrase spoken by a German, I can't help but imagine it's Schwarzenegger.
Or one of those characters from 'allo' allo.
Phil_Drill ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:22:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an American in Germany and I see billboards saying "FINGER VOM HANDY!" and it has a picture of a crying woman.
My dirty mind didn't even know where to go with that.
FunkyFreshJayPi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Switzerland many people call it 'Natel' which stands for Nationales Autotelefon
Hanabichu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg I haven't heard that term for a while, i vermiss d'schwiz :(
WyclefJean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do call it Natel, and I'll continue to do so until cell phones aren't a thing anymore.
rmeas002 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mommy can I get a handy for my birthday
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your grandfather has one but grandmom says sheโs gonna give him one for his birthday so you can have his. Itโs and older model but if you really want it you can have an old handy from grandpa.
rmeas002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grandpa's handy is too slow and too big for my pockets
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Japanese it's a "Portable". In Chinese it's a "Hand machine." I feel like there's more amusement to be mined here.
destinyofdoors ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:12:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, as one of my students once asked me, "hand chicken". Because 'machine' and 'chicken' are homophobic in Chinese.
DrunkHurricane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
destinyofdoors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:17 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oy vey. Homophones. Autocorrect is relentless.
Martipar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's probably from a similar source to the US army referring to walkie-talkies and handy-talkies
ThatLexxyFellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wo ist mein heeeeeeendy?
xElmentx ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:37:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're called cell phones because each area of coverage supplied by a single transmission tower is called a 'cell'.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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xElmentx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Automatic cell handoff is amazing technology, it always amazes me.
Silntdoogood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm impressed the real answer was in here. Usually reddit tries so say something about battery "cells"
NotRoryWilliams ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:37:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the system is still cellular, so why are we referring to this term as obsolete?
agentkolter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not obsolete, but it's a more technical term that if asked, a majority of people might not be able to explain.
NotRoryWilliams ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:30:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but to OP's actual question, this doesn't meet the criteria. The term has not lost its core relevance. The thing that it referred to in the first place is still the thing that it refers to today, even if people aren't concerned with the technical details. And it still distinguishes the technology; nobody refers to non-cellular devices (satellite phones, wifi only phones, etc) as cell phones.
YouKnowHowIBe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:39:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I visited Holland in 2002, they referred to them as mobiles, of course, and we called them cell phones. My Dutch relatives got a little confused and started calling them self-phones. We still refer to them as self-phones in my family now.
nolotusnotes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cellular refers to the collection of towers that receive the signal. You are always "connected" to one "Cell Tower." As you travel, your connection is switched to the closest tower behind the scenes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have cellular shades on my windows. It's strange to describe them to someone. The shades have 'cells' on them.
SplitArrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cellular refers to how the phone acts as cell in reference to the tower. Towers cover areas called cells. Cell phones get their signal from what ever nearest cell tower provides it.
meiyoumayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I realize that at this point, I just call my cellphone my phone, since it's the only phone I use when I'm not using the landline on my desk at work (which I call my work phone/landline).
I feel like landline phone and "basic"/"feature" phone (i.e. non-smartphone cellphone) are going to join acoustic guitar, black-and-white movie, analog watch, and brick-and-mortar store as new retronyms.
Catshit-Dogfart ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:54:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well sure, but they're still making those calls using "cellular" radio signal.
The term comes from the charts of a broadcast coverage map, which looks like biological cells. The term "cell phone" isn't exactly right though, it's the network that is being described as cellular and not the phone.
thejumpingmouse ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:02:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea. Is it the phone part he's going on about? Cause almost all phones still are cellular.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_network#Concept
JohnnyJordaan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:46:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term cell predates the discovery of the biological cell, coming from the Latin 'cella' meaning small room. Hence cellular radios, prison cells and biological cells are all named after that root word.
the8nizz4 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:00:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"what's a computer?"
Sovann ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:29:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God I hate that commercial
SquaresAre2Triangles ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:40:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Car? Nope it's just a computer that happens to help get you from place to place.
TV? Nope it's just a computer that happens to have a big display and minimal I/O.
You can do that with practically everything electronic now.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:02:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The territories covered by a cell tower, when seen on a map, resemble cells (plant or animal). That's why they're called cellular. I believe this is still very relevant.
atomcrusher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is relevant, I'm not sure why OP thinks it's an outdated term just because we've added stuff on top.
Ella_Spella ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:06:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well in the UK we say 'mobile phone' so we're safe. They're still mobile! For now..
scribble23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet we still have the Carphone Warehouse on every high street. Been a while since carphones were the latest yuppie status symbol.
RsonW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And they still make calls using the cellular networking method, so we're still safe in America, too.
I honestly don't know what OP is talking about.
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:05:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I said this to someone else already, but I'll say it again...
It's still a phone first. Would you carry it around (without a phone) if it had no phone in it? I wouldn't. I know this because I replaced my nexus 5 when calling people required being on speaker or using headphones.
jwaterworth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People carry around tablets.
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually with cellular radio service.
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not instead of phones.
M_C_Hannah ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:51:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 16 year old (much younger) brother was describing an iPod touch to my 3 year old and called it "basically a phone that doesn't do calls"
It made me feel very old that, from his perspective, he could use "phone" to describe something that didn't do the thing that a phone is supposed to do.
NeverCast ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:14:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's.. still a cell phone... It's a phone, that uses a cell network. Is a smart fridge less a fridge because it can find grocery prices?
AutoDestructo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:35:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah so this one is all over the place. They use cell-switched network radios to make calls with 10 digit circuit addresses soooo... still a cell phone.
A computer being anything that does math for you, every cell-phone ever qualified. A programmable digital computer being something that can be given arbitrary instructions to carry out in binary math well... probably every cell phone ever qualifies as that too?
Most of them now would also be considered a "personal computer" because they have an x86 or ARM based processor and run a Unix-based OS. Funny because originally Unix was developed for running phone switching equipment.
The more you think about it, we just make words up and whatever sticks, sticks.
Phil_Drill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cell/cellular describes the network structure, which as far as I know is still accurate.
AllPurposeNerd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:44:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, that's like saying a Swiss Army Knife shouldn't be called a knife anymore because it can do a bunch of other shit. It's pedantic.
rocky_whoof ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:56:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... they connect to the world using a network of cells....
lejefferson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer was first used to described machines that computed complex mathematical and statistical equations.
yesanything ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:24:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only made the jump from flip to smart about 6 months ago.
I almost never call it a cell phone (rather a "smart" phone)
playaspec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:51:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still cellular though.
Nightstalker117 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never forget the games on non touch screen phones.
playaspec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Snake on the Nokia 3390 FTW!
luketerr8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they donโt just โhappenโ to make calls. They were designed that way and slowly evolved.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but it's too long to say it like that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They can do that?!
mr_lab_rat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, they are still connected to the cellular network so that makes them cell phones.
READERmii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PDA would be more accurate
playaspec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:41:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't mean they're not cellular. They most certainly are. The architecture of the networks have remained cellular from the earliest days of analog cell phones to today's 4G networks. Only the modulation and data formats have changed.
Sendmeloveletters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs a cell for your mind.
RalphieRaccoon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless I'm mistaken, the "cell" in cell phone means a phone that uses a cellular wireless network to communicate rather than a wired landline, and that is still true in today's smartphones as it was when they first came out.
AkirIkasu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, basic cell phones without computerized capabilities have not had a significant market share in developed nations for about 3 decades.
mjw09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People look at you funny when you say I'll call you on your cellular device. (Here is where we learn the origin of "device")
wardrich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If only Apple would realize this... their devices would be so much more appealing.
JustRuss79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Cell" is an older technology anyway, the proper term is Mobile Phone, or Mobile Device. If it can make phone calls, it can be called a phone. I wouldn't call Skype or Hangouts a "phone call" even though it uses the phone symbol... its an IP call...or teleconference.
But yeah, Cell should be outdated anyway even if the phone part isn't.
orionsbelt05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What's a computer?"
Iustinianus_I ยท 160 points ยท Posted at 19:53:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a lot of holdovers from typesetting.
Uppercase and Lowercase refer to where the actual letters were stored.
A stereotype is a metal cast of type ready to print that could be used multiple times.
A cliche is similar, but was a commonly used phrase instead of an entire page
Making a good impression refers to pressing the ink onto the paper
Mind your q's and ps', because they look very similar if you flip them around
Out of sorts means that you have run out of a letter
And so on.
geezorious ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:04:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm waiting for kerning to make it into the mainstream.
Iustinianus_I ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:13:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/keming
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:22:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh god why
Fez_Mast-er ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:07:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the term 'dotting your 'i's and crossing your 't's' comes from cursive writing, where you don't actually dot your i's and cross your t's until you're done writing the word, thus dotting i's and crossing t's is putting the finishing touches on something.
jrhooo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also, those dots and crosses are "tit's and tittles".
FaxCelestis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:12:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to use "boilerplate" in this list but I can't think of anyone I know who actually uses the word except myself.
Netrilix ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:14:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's used in software development somewhat uncommonly. Also in writing legal agreements, probably a little more commonly.
Akuuntus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:59:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear it a lot to describe stories or characters in fiction, as just a stand-in for "generic".
justaprimer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same!
FaxCelestis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone I've ever used it with has said something to the tune of, "What? What is that?"
And I always have to explain it as basically a stamp but in a printing press.
Scout6feetup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This word is still used a ton in PR. Every press release needs a boiler plate.
WhoisTylerDurden ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:02:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This refers to Pints and Quarts, as in a bartender telling a patron to behave himself and not get too drunk.
TheRoadHome ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:37:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a competing history, in truth, they don't know where the phrase came from.
Rubberfootman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:42:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve looked into this before, and thereโs no evidence for it. Especially as quarts arenโt normally sold in bars. OPโs pโs and qโs is dubious too.
Again, thereโs no proper evidence, but Iโve always liked the theory that it is an abbreviation for โmind your please and thankyousโ - ie be polite.
jfb1337 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what my family always said it means
Rubberfootman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thereโs no true answer apparently.
https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2012/01/09/origin-to-mind-your-ps-and-qs/
http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/psandqs.htm
Baboobalou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:55:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason I always thought this meant please and thank yous...
dewfairy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
P and Q in language
_gnasty_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always thought that "mind your p's and q's" was from rowdy taverns referring to pints and quarts. Meaning don't spill your drinks. Live and learn!
Iustinianus_I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could very well have been used for both.
LotusPrince ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, I never knew what that was supposed to mean! Thanks!
Disney_World_Native ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought mind your Pโs and Qโs refereed to Pints and Quarts and originated from bars in the sense to tell someone they are drunk or are drinking too much.
evhan55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
omg
FacelessBruh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isnโt that mind your products and quotients? Pโs and Qโs?
BaconReceptacle ยท 768 points ยท Posted at 16:05:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When saying a web address, people still say "WWW" even though it's completely unnecessary. Occassionally I find a website that doesnt have a DNS entry for www though so it's only necessary if you dont know what you're doing.
yesanything ยท 800 points ยท Posted at 16:29:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and saying WWW takes 3 times the effort of just saying World Wide Web.
9 syllables vs 3 syllables
Im_Lucifer_Not_Evil ยท 635 points ยท Posted at 16:41:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WWW might be just 6 syllables if youโre from Texas
[deleted] ยท 719 points ยท Posted at 16:47:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DontTreadOnBigfoot ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 18:21:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Say that in front of a mirror and President Bush II appears.
BJUmholtz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Got any coke, friend? (heh heh heh)"
Sully1102 ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 17:17:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dub-dub-dub
pudniskool ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:43:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UU UU UU
Pickled_Wizard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:48:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And thus, dubstep was born.
A_BOMB2012 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:43:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wubba lubba dub dub!
jimx117 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:45:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
aaw jeez
Sully1102 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:52:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewerโs head. Thereโs also Rickโs nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that theyโre not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldnโt appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rickโs existential catchphrase โWubba Lubba Dub Dub,โ which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenevโs Russian epic Fathers and Sons. Iโm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmonโs genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. ๐
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. Itโs for the ladiesโ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that theyโre within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid ๐
BaconReceptacle ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 21:15:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaaand you had to end it with a typo.
Undrallio ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:22:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woosh.
Sully1102 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next time I copy & paste Iโll fix it
someoldbroad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or wuh-wuh-wuh
pac2005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Waluigi
baileyblackbird ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 17:53:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, if no one pictured 43 chuckling to himself, you're all wrong.
Aiskhulos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:01:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pictured Jon Stewart's impression of Bush chuckling.
baileyblackbird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Acceptable substitution.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:00:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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baileyblackbird ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:28:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet none of us thought we'd ever utter those words.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:22:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:35:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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goosehonker ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:12:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depleted uranium. Drone strikes on civilians.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dubya!
Sophrosynic ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:05:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Outside of Texas it's just dubyou dubyou dubyou.
TheNessLink ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:59:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hear that on the radio all the time
CryptoCoinPanhandler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
always said "wah wah wah" after some radio station said it that way in their bumpers.
Gingercus502 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This aided my understanding.
NariNaraRana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
daht
aaronsweber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also heard people just say "dubdubdub" .... usually the people who pronounce "URL" as "earl" but still.
Erebus77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd also accept "dubba-dubba-dubba".
Korru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad that I can get away with "vee vee vee" in my language :P
KeybladeSpirit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Ohio I'll occasionally hear "dubbiedubbiedubbie" on the radio.
SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does this work the same way as Betelgeuse?
shaed9681 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Australia they just say "dubdubdub"
minotaurbranch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I say something like dubbadubbadubyoo.
hates_poopin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From Texas and I say that.
I also say DUBDUBDUB
Ravster3000 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did not have sexual relations with that womern
diffyqgirl ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 18:08:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.... fuck, I was counting syllables and wondering how /u/yesanything got 9
Not from Texas, but I did grow up in the South.
ReCat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:05:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same, I was so confused ๐
IveAlreadyWon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:07:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or 3 if you have ever had to work in IT. dubdubdub is much easier to say.
AleksiKovalainen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:05:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or veveve if you are Russian
Chazzysnax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or three if you just say triple dubs like the cool kids do.
deFleury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've only ever heard " triple-dub", don't people feel stupid saying all three "dubs " out loud? By the time you've enunciated the second one, surely your audience knows what's coming next and is like "hurry up, get to the point"?
Apatharas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dubayou around here
robbzilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might? Hah! Definitely is!
a_trane13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or about 4.5 if you're from Michigan duya duya duya
Sapanther ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just say dub dub dub dot.
droo46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or if youโre clever, just say dub dub dub.
Menolith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"weeweewee" master race reporting in.
peelen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or 3 when you are from Poland: voo voo voo
ropbop19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from Virginia and it comes out like that from me.
aeroartist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha and of course i had to then say it out loud
avenlanzer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wanted to argue against the stereotype, but then realized that's exactly how I say it.
Angry_Sapphic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3 if you're lazy. wuhwuhwuh.
TheLagDemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comment legitimately made me feel embarrassed about my accent. Iโm a Texan and I was just sitting here trying to figure out where they were getting 9 syllables from. Dammit.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:50:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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whtml ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It most definitely isn't.
Ansonfrog ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:00:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nah, it's dubdubdubdot
ElephantsGerald_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve been trying to get โdouble u double double uโ to catch on for years
TwoFiveOnes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dimsdale dimmadome
Autoradiograph ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:30:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just say, "Wow, wow, wow"
I_am_a_Sad_Fish ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:24:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like Owen Wilson
Cub3h ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In some languages you'd say it as "way way way", which always sounded much better than doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyou.
Autoradiograph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:52 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We should start a petition to have the name of w officially changed to something with one syllable.
sandm000 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:48:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The shortest form of WWW is actually trip-dubs.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You still only saved one syllable.
sandm000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
7 syllables saved. Man. 7 Chipmunks twirlin on a branch eating lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch
UninvitedGhost ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:54:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just go to worldwideweb.google.com
Erik831 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:54:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didnโt get this at first because I kept thinking in my head โdub,dub,dub has 9 syllables?โ Lol
raw031979b ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you mean people dont say "dub dub dub" as in dub dub dub dot google dot com?
Beheska ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just go "wuhwuhwuh".
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:09:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do English speakers actually say "double u double u double u" when referring to WWW?.
We Spanish speakers say "triple doble ve" or "triple doble u".
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:28:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely, yes
GreenFriday ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:37:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None that I've come across. Everyone I know says "dub dub dub".
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:17:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard anyone say that
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading this in The Salmon of Doubt by Douglas Adams, but I don't think it's true. English is not syllable timed, it's stress timed. This means we tend to compress unstressed syllables, so that each stressed syllable appears on a similar beat.
I measured myself saying WWW and World Wide Web 3 times in PRAAT.
The phrase world wide web actually looks longer, this is probably related to the standards I used to measure the b at the end of the phrase, which counts the end of the word as the end of the puff of air from that sound being audible. WWW was measured to the last vocal chord flap.
Regardless, the times for me were very similar. Around 1 second long, with .93 being the shortest measurement and 1.09 being the longest.
Now if you mean something other than time, I can't help you there :).
CP_Creations ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in the day, I tried getting "6 U dot google dot com" to catch on.
Spoiler alert: it didn't.
plankicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually just say, "dub dub dub". It's quick and most people understand instantly.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard people say it as "Just go to dubya dubya dot whatever dot com"
Yes, only saying it twice, not 3 times. Like you said, people know what you mean.
wra1th42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dub dub dub dot....
inkyllama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dub dub dub dot
l3monsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dub dub dub"
javilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or just say VVV, I doubt anyone could mistake that and it is faster than World Wide Web too.
hatsu_kaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"dub dub dub" source: new zealand spoken language, radio or television
Pendaelose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3 syllables with significant articulation involved. The fully pronounced W sound is a mouthfull.
That's why it's so often just called "dub dub dub".
brannana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tri-dub, 2 syllables.
Solesaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just say "dub dub dub dot" :P
RandomRageNet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dubyew" can be said in like one and a half syllables though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you can just say it twice instead of 3 times and people still know what you mean.
"Go to dubyew dubyew dot nintendo dot com"
EDIT: Actually you can leave out the first dot. "Go to dubyew dubyew nintendo dot com" sounds fine.
xiipaoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know Italian, but I've listened to some Italian recordings where websites are mentioned, and they say "vu vu vu". That's smart.
narnou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We abreviated it "WรฉWรฉWรฉ" in french
cheribom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always drove me nuts that Launchpad would use the nickname โDWโ as short for โDarkwingโ.
tydalt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drove me crazy when I worked in the emergency room. GSW versus gunshot woundโฆ It takes longer to say GSW then gunshot wound.
MarlinMr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not for non English superiors. We have a word for W, but everyone said V. Why say WWW, it's not like VVV was taken or anything.
Blackultra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just say "trip-uh-dub-uh-dot"
runtimemess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
triple dubya dot
peanut55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We just say dub dub dub instead of the full double u
iltopop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every tech teacher I had in college just said "dub dub dub". Could be a WI thing where I went to school though.
Galaxy_Ranger_Bob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saying "WTF" take the same amount of effort as saying "What the Fuck," yet people will still use the texting shorthand in place of the actual words.
I've even heard people say "lol" in real life. Not, El-oh-el, but actually saying "lol," the first syllable in lollypop.
KDBA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Lol" has been a word since the late nineties, in my experience. Anyone actually saying the letters individually would get a strange look from me.
TwoFiveOnes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you say world wide web? You're typing www. If people said that you'd get millions of people actually typing it, just like how there's people who can never seem to find the 'any' key
MazeMouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not so much in the Netherlands. (W in Dutch is pronounced like the word "way")
lilthrowaway2285 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in Dutch.. we just say โwayโ for a W.
spacemonkey9786 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just say "Trip Dub".
Not really.
AllPurposeNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time, back when CNet had a show on Discovery or whatever, I heard it pronounced "tripidub."
Obviously, it never stuck.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We" tried for a bit to get people to say "dub dub dub" for this. It didn't take.
abusmakk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used the term world wide web in my native language when talking with my mother the ither day. She gave me a weird look before she asked what it was.
SteinOveAsp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Btw, why donโt you say โdouble-veeโ?
joetromboni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say triple dub dot
Kootsiak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with people who actually say "WW2" instead of World War 2. It only makes sense when writing it.
MotherFuckin-Oedipus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid and dial-up was still new, I started just saying "dub dub dub".
If I'm feeling lazy, I still say that. So far, nobody has been confused; or at least, they never admitted to it.
Himekat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a software developer, everyone I know at work says โdub-dubโ. Like, โsomething wrong with the dub-dub servers?โ if the servers hosting the website are acting up.
jerimiahf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dub dub dub
domromer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A rare case where German is shorter. VeVeVe!
Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dub-yoo?
Kougeru ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:33:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
World wide web is 4 syllables, really. World is two. "wa" and "urld"
SoManyGoblins ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 18:15:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, it's not completely unnecessary, by definition of completely.
stone_henge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was never necessary from a hosting perspective
epwnym ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:43:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically no. Practically yes.
We shouldnโt conflate the Internet and the web.
In the early days those subdomain prefixes help identify to users and clients which type of resource it was. People were already connecting to non-www URIs.
Creshal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:54:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a mere convention, but people are so trained to put www. in front of fucking everything that you have to add it to your DNS because someone will put it in front of a domain even (and especially) if you never told them to. And more often than not that mouth-breathing imbecile will be in charge of seven-figure budgets and threaten to cancel their company's contract because "you broke the internet".
screams into a pillow
BaconReceptacle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:23:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You used to have to enter a dns entry for www. If a website doesnt update the name servers it may be directing www to some page that no longer exists.
Slepnair ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:24:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually have a couple websites I use for work that if you do WWW it won't work, or if you don't put WWW it won't work.
Also a few that you have to make sure you type https:// or else it'll fail to load.
solar_compost ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:28:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't know if you have control over this but that is bad practice for a webserver. it can (and should) be configured to handle with/without www & http/s redirections.
Slepnair ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:48:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, they're internal sites and don't care. Lol I spoke with the head of or infrastructure team about it a while ago.
solar_compost ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:51:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, all of my internal sites and sandboxes are total wrecks as well so I get it.
vegidio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently watched a video on Youtube about a very old TV show in my home country where the host started to say their web address to the audience:
He spelled every single letter of: "h t t p : / / w w w ." before the actual domain and TLD. It was painful to watch.
evilbrent ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can a tv show both be very old and have a reference to the internet on it?
vegidio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right... because the internet was created last week, and not 30+ years ago /s
And I'm considering 30+ years only taking into consideration when it became available to the general public. It's actually much older than that.
ashooner ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then there were those that said 'slash' instead of 'backslash', so on top of being excruciatingly unnecessary, it was also wrong.
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:20:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, you have that reversed. / is a slash, while \ is a backslash.
URLs typically don't contain Windows directory URIs, which do use backslashes.
jwaterworth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/ is a regular slash
ashooner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been browsing MS-DOS this whole time... This is worse than when I was finally corrected for 'intensive purposes'.
making-flippy-floppy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:15:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember back in the 90s when I first saw someone reading a URL on TV. It was like they were reading a phonetic transcription of a foreign language: aitch tee tee pee colon slash slash double-u double-u double-u dot ...
ccooffee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should have used "web." instead. Would have made things a lot easier.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:14:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Web" alone doesn't imply that it's running on the Internet, could be a web on a LAN. "www" implies that it's THE web that's running on THE Internet.
madepopular ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:17:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never say www, though I hear them do it on ads because theyโre appealing to many demographics. Iโve also stopped adding the โ.comโ when verbally giving my email address. Both should be a given.
MattieShoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not strictly true... Whether it's necessary depends on how they've set up DNS.
notjustanymike ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
www. is necessary if you're setting cookies on the domain. A www'less site will share it's cookies among all subdomains, which can result in a large amount of data being included with every request if you have a lot of subdomains. It's an edge case, but a real possibility.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:13:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Plorntus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:56:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do browsers automatically add it? That'd be pretty bad if they did.
Most of the time its the servers enforcing
wwwredirecting the user to a single sub-domain.Braxo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:19:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Browsers don't add it, the web proxy where the site is adds it or removes if they want.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Braxo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't work for Google and I write code to implement
httpsandwwwfor sites. Saying that's not needed?[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Braxo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if the site is in chrome's cache and the site has the
Strict-Transport-Securityheader set up in their web proxy.A site may also set all that up and submit that to Google for review and if Google accepts it will preload the browser's cache to redirect to those endpoints.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Braxo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The
http://- now Chrome may add that automatically if it determines that the string you put in the browser's url bar looks like a web address.But the
https://andwww- would be site specific and saved in the browser's cache for your next visits.gekkobob ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:56:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always hoped saying "triple u" would catch on, instead of three double u's. Like saying "triple u dot altavista dot com". But alas.
skewrr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:24:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Triple Double U
MightyRoops ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:27:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sextuple u.
Catshit-Dogfart ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:08:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is how the letter W came to be named, and "Triple U" wouldn't really be inaccurate.
In medieval Latin, U and V were interchangeable and writing style was distinct to different regions. Depends on who is doing the writing and how they learned to write.
And the letter combination was so common that it kind of became its own letter over time, called a "Double U".
Fuzzyninjaful ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But triple u would be uuu not www
gekkobob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, really?
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always just said "trip dub." It got the point across. "Trip dub dot google dot com"
rrawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear people say "dub dub dub" sometimes.
nvrMNDthBLLCKS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've run into many (also major) websites that don't have a redirect from the base domain (domain.com) to their www url (www.domain.com). Then you get a blanc page or some error. Years ago I thought we should get rid of that stupid www, especially for all you english people, but now I see that it has its purpose, especially for the big websites that need spread traffic over different servers.
Phil_Drill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:19:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes you wonder why www was ever a part of the URL to begin with. Like oh wait, I didn't want the world wide web, I wanted the city-wide web. Silly me.
techcaleb ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:30:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be one of the many other protocols on the internet. The world wide web is just one of the services.
Examples: mail.example.com - Mail
gopher.example.com - Gopher (an early alternative to the world wide web, also hypertext based)
www.example.com - World Wide Web
telnet.example.com - Remote access to computing resources
ftp.example.com - File transfer protocol
blueg3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Host, not protocol. The protocol part of the URL (e.g., http) designates the protocol. (If you're not using a URL, it's the client program and its configuration that designates what protocol you want).
The part before your domain (e.g., www) is the host. By convention, the primary server for a particular high-level service is given the name of that service. So your main Web server is www, your mail server is mail, your gopher server is gopher, etc. This is separate from protocol: mail can run Webmail (http/s), POP, IMAP, and SMTP all at once. You also can host non-primary services on other machines. Say, toaster.domain.com can host the Web site of your toaster. Still HTTP, still Web, but not the primary Website of domain.com.
These days, since most people incorrectly think of the Internet as nothing but the Web, black-box HTTP services, and second-class clients, usually you CNAME your domain to www for better end user usability. Even though it's kind of wrong.
techcaleb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent clarifications. And certainly any host name can be used with any protocol. There were just conventions that people had where you would have a different host name for each common service.
blueg3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. For the primary service of that type. For that domain. Certainly you can -- and even now, do -- have dozens of hosts in a domain that are all serving different Web resources.
Jack_Vermicelli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yeah. The browser needs to know which network you want. You could very well want a page on a local web.
Phil_Drill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what http:// is for?
Jack_Vermicelli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. That only specifies the protocol.
Braxo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
httpwould be the protocol. For example, you can request live updates to reddit using their api and thews://(websocket) protocol.blueg3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None of this is right and it's killing me.
Phil_Drill ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that's weird, when I type http://google.com I get the Google of the world wide web, not my local Google.
HilarityEnsuez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when the internet was first becoming used in the typical home, we typed out the "http" even. Then it was a miracle when we could just put "www".
Progress.
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still type "http://". Well, not exactly, I type "https://" for the occasional website that still serves plain HTTP instead of just redirecting you to the SSL site
NeverCast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please point your www subdomain to your @ root. Thanks
tornado9015 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Strictly speaking that isn't true. www is a subdomain, because www became a defacto standard we assume that www is desired by default, we use it by default for most things, however while we are redirected to www by default we don't have to be. For example, you may have come across a school or company that had it's own email server and provided you an address which you accessed by going to email.(whatever).com. You might also encounter blog.(whatever).com
Most of the time you can leave it off, but that doesn't mean completely unnecessary.
Drew707 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: People who don't use wildcard records.
plazman30 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a carry over from the 90s. Websites all started with www. Ftp servers with ftp. Archie servers with archie. nntp servers with nntp or news. gopher servers with gopher.
A simpler time online. No spam. Just a bunch of geeks and nerds staring at a green screen exchanging ideas and ascii porn. I miss the days when Usenet hosted an amazing array of discussions, and for the most part people were civil to each other.
buckus69 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:05:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still completely necessary from an infrastructure standpoint. But browsers have abstracted that detail away, as if you put in something like reddit.com, it automatically tries www.reddit.com first.
kalmakka ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 19:05:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not correct.
When you enter reddit.com your browser will do a DNS lookup request to find the IP address of reddit.com, then connect to that IP address and send a request. The response from that server tells the browser "This page has moved to www.reddit.com". The browser then does another DNS lookup to find the IP address of www.reddit.com and then connects to that IP address. Two things to note: the browser does not try www.reddit.com first, and the browser only tries www.reddit.com because reddit.com told it so.
At least back in the days, it was common for browsers to try to resolve the IP address of www.[something].[other] if just [something].[other] did not resolve, and automatically redirect the user www.[something].[other] if it found something there.
slnz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:29:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention the zone apex (no www) is annoyingly different from operating within the regular 3 level domains from a DNS infrastructure standpoint (the reason you can't just CNAME and have to redirect).
Ouaouaron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if it were reddit.co.uk? Would you still want a www in the front?
Nulagrithom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 20:10:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Nulagrithom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:19:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol hate dealing with "computer people"?
This is why we hate dealing with shitty users. You're not listening. It's not automatic. It has to be set up right. If the site on the other end isn't set up right, you may have to add/remove the www.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Nulagrithom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine this:
User sends a request for help: website isn't working. Tech goes to their desk and tells them to add www.
U: Why do I have to add www? Isn't it automatic?
T: <Detailed Explanation>
U: But for all intents and purposes it's automatic.
T: No. <Explains again>
U: No wonder people hate dealing with computer people. You guys just want to flex nuts about your IT knowledge.
Rinse and repeat that same fucking conversation 10 times a day every day. Welcome to the help desk. It gets fucking old real fast.
solar_compost ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:34:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except he is wrong and explicitly stated that the browser is doing it. It's not, the DNS server is responsible. If he had written "but DNS servers have abstracted..." it'd be a different story.
Not sure why you thought a technically correct explanation of the process needed a sugar coating using a condescending explanation like "magic internet box" but it's not needed.
MikeTheInfidel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:32:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, they are. It's the DNS system doing it by design, not the browser doing it "automatically." Saying the browser does it automatically would be like saying that your phone automatically dials your area code when you make a local call.
Edit:
The problem isn't how you're being responded to; it's being confidently wrong about things in a condescending way.
solar_compost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hahaha you are an astounding child
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fucking christ, are you fucking serious? Do you have absolutely no self-awareness? You're bitching about "computer people" being rude to you when they're correcting you, but you just started a fucking comment with
while at the same time being completely and totally wrong.
If you don't want people to be snarky when they respond to you, how about you don't start comments in the snarkiest possible way when you're discussing topics that you know nothing about?
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Completely necessary is a stretch. I host all my services on the same domain, no probs. There are some good reasons not to if you have high load concerns, just to be able to have a CNAME record. But for that purpose the domain could as well be whateveryouwant.reddit.com
abcPIPPO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still type www when I type from my computer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if this is anywhere else, but in Finland we say it as if it was "VVV". It's a lot quicker and efficient.
Jack_Vermicelli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And not at all accurate.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but everyone uses it so everyone also knows the meaning.
EdvinM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same in Swedish. W is called "double V", so it's akin to saying "UUU" in English. Still wrong, but it makes more sense.
VAPossum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a colleague who calls me for internet and computer help. He knows I'm quite computer savvy, but when he's reciting a web address to me over the phone, he still starts out by spelling, "h-t-t-p, then the two slashes--I'm not sure if they're right to left or left to right, just try one and see if it works--and then a colon, then w-w-w, then dot, then..."
prodevel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're lucky you weren't around when the Internet first came around. Every radio ad would include the http://www. So annoying because it took 3-5 years for it to go away.
Iksuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only place I see it missing now is Amazon Smile.
H_C_Sunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was listening to an episode of Coast to Coast from the 90s and Art Bell's guest gave the audience her web address thusly: "just go to HTTP colon forward slash forward slash ..."
HenningBerge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually say Http or Https, and www ...
eyeGunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually like it in conversation. It gives a clear indication that what I am about to say is a web address and it starts here and WWW is so distinct it can't be confused with anything you would normally say in conversation.
nedjeffery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have found these days that you actually have to put in an entry for www. It's not the default.
VegasAdventurer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are (very poorly made) websites that still require the www prefix :/
Taleya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a couple of websites that require the www - you can't access them on the A record. I will find out what they're hiding
Fuzzyninjaful ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a while, my school's website took forever to load if you didn't put the 'www'. If you added, it loaded like any other web page. Also, where do you live that people still say 'www'? Even from elderly people, I don't hear it anymore apart from a joke.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than the first days of the web when people used to spell out the whole darned thing. "Visit our website at H-T-T-P colon back-slash back-slash W-W-W dot N B C dot C-O-M."
Techwood111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And do you know why it was WWW in the first place? It was common in the 80s to name computers that served data, "hosts," with the data they served. A DNS host might be named dns.domain.tld. Similarly, the FTP server might have been ftp.domain.tld. But, the hostname could be ANYTHING. Campuses commonly had snoopy.domain.edu and linus.domain.edu, for instance. The "http:" at the front was what declared the desired service; the "www" just became the conventional name for your hypertext transfer protocol computer doing the web serving.
esumike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.yes-www.org/why-use-www/
misterdandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not too long ago, it seemed like some forums required the www to recognize and create a link, and I still sometimes catch myself using it
Mythodiir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned when I was like 8 that you don't need "www" at the start of a web address. I always assumed it's included at the front because it's maybe necessary in rare cases or something. Like certain websites need a "www" at the front, but 95% of websites don't.
downquarks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly, here in Germany they don't say the www in TV or radio ads as it's just implied with the .com or .de
it was quite weird listening to american radio the first time and hear them spell out the www everytime.
MikeFichera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i say http...unsure if i'm weird or antiquated.
ConfusedDuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watching someone not use Ctrl+enter almost causes me to have a stroke
Axtorx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:40:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a designer.
I put companyโs websites on their advertising as: companysname.com
But once, I had a client call me with changes and they said โWhen I go to our website, it has three Ws in front of it, can you add that back?โ
rigel2112 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:23:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of nautical terms are still used today.
Above board
On or above the deck, in plain view, not hiding anything. Pirates would hide their crews below decks, thereby creating the false impression that an encounter with another ship was a casual matter of chance.
Bitter end
The last part or loose end of a rope or cable. The anchor cable is tied to the bitts; when the cable is fully paid out, the bitter end has been reached.
Cut of his jib
The "cut" of a sail refers to its shape. Since this would vary between ships, it could be used both to identify a familiar vessel at a distance, and to judge the possible sailing qualities of an unknown one. Also used figuratively of people.
Jury rig
Both the act of rigging a temporary mast and sails and the name of the resulting rig. A jury rig would be built at sea when the original rig was damaged, then it would be used to sail to a harbor or other safe place for permanent repairs.
Keelhauling
Maritime punishment: to punish by dragging under the keel of a ship.
Know the ropes
A sailor who 'knows the ropes' is familiar with the miles of cordage and ropes involved in running a ship.
Loose cannon
An irresponsible and reckless individual whose behavior (either intended or unintended) endangers the group he or she belongs to. A loose cannon, weighing thousands of pounds, would crush anything and anyone in its path, and possibly even break a hole in the hull, thus endangering the seaworthiness of the whole ship.
Rummage sale
A sale of damaged cargo (from French arrimage).
Shanghaied
Condition of a crewman involuntarily impressed into service on a ship.
Slush fund
The money obtained by the cook selling slush ashore. Used for the benefit of the crew (or the cook).
Square meal
A sufficient quantity of food. Meals on board ship were served to the crew on a square wooden plate in harbor or at sea in good weather. Food in the Royal Navy was invariably better or at least in greater quantity than that available to the average landsman. However, while square wooden plates were indeed used on board ship, there is no established link between them and this particular term. The OED gives the earliest reference from the US in the mid-19th century.
Three sheets to the wind
On a three-masted ship, having the sheets of the three lower courses loose will result in the ship meandering aimlessly downwind. Also, a sailor who has drunk strong spirits beyond his capacity.
Under the weather
Serving a watch on the weather side of the ship, exposed to wind and spray.
arcxjo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an alternative theory that "three sheets to the wind" comes from four-bladed windmills, where if one blade or "sheet" broke off, the other three arms would be weighted off-centre and would wobble as they spun.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is very informative, thank you!
that_motorcycle_guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really not suprising since the age of sail lasted so long.
mambaso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:50 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut of his jib - I used to think this meant how the jib sail angle was cutting the wind for this one but you are correct. Thanks for the education.
๐๏ธ Allen_MacGyverson ยท 275 points ยท Posted at 14:59:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a subway entry will always be a result of a "swipe", no matter what the action.
Edit: Yes, I know alternate forms exist. I mean no matter if Iโm โtappingโ or gaining telepathic entry, I think there will be a guy next to me asking โYo can I get a swipe?โ. Believe the term will stick, at least in NYC.
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 435 points ยท Posted at 15:44:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In NYC, it's the result of swiping multiple times at the same goddamn machine while screaming obscenities as your train pulls away.
๐๏ธ Allen_MacGyverson ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:50:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but I think there are ambitions to allow access via phone tap, or maybe just a card that you tap rather than swipe. Thinking ahead, but "swipe" is so ingrained that I don't think it will go away.
batty3108 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:16:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this not commonplace where you're from?
The 'Oyster' card as an alternative to paper tickets has been around in London for about fourteen years. I think most regional lines in the UK have adopted a smartcard system of some sort.
Funnily enough, the Oyster card itself may well end up going this way, as Apple/Android Pay and Contactless bank card compatibility was added a few years ago, and most people have a Contactless card nowadays.
joechoj ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:02:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans are deeply suspicious of transit, and any changes to transit that approach efficiency, and really any social program that benefits the masses.
Seriously, transit systems here are 20-30 years behind the state of the art. Exceptional, indeed.
romple ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:26:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're not. But we don't exactly have the power to implement efficient mass transit systems. We pretty much all want it. But what people want and what government tries to do and what government actually ends up doing are not nearly as correlated as we'd all like.
joechoj ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:01:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You as a citizen may not be. But car-first transportation policies are baked into funding mechanisms at the federal, state & regional levels. On top of which most of suburbia and a surprising number of city-dwellers would rather give up their first-born child than one of their multiple family cars.
Lots of people like the idea of transit, right up until the point where they personally have to actually make a lifestyle change to make it happen. At that point, political discourse devolves into "Giveaways to the poor!" and "Why should I pay higher taxes?" and "You'll take that parking space out of my cold, dead hand!"
I don't dispute that you really do want better transit, as do many others. But by and large antiquated notions of individualism still guide urban transport policy. The exception that proves the rule is Minneapolis, with its expansive and well-developed transit system and Scandinavian & socialist heritage.
Things are changing a bit, but unfortunately the biggest changes seem to be coming from the private sector (car-share, bike-share, private shuttles) rather than the public sector. As such, the benefit is limited to those private sector interests.
romple ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:10:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was my point. Most citizens are not against public transit we just don't have the power to do anything about it. I live in DC, your choices are a broken transit system or 2 hours of gridlock to commute. We have 2 states and DC worth of politicians to ensure any transit programs are terrible and everything is slowed down by constant arguments about funding. But literally everyone here would kill for better transit and already pays a shitload in taxes for it.
The bigger arguments tend to be "I don't live anywhere near DC, why should my state taxes fund a DC transit system?" from people that live in VA and Maryland but nowhere near DC.
You just can't say "Americans" and imply that the average person commuting to work hates public transit.
I live less than a quarter mile from a metro stop and I work literally on the same corner as one. But if I took the metro it'd take 3 times longer than if I drove. It's faster if I bike to work (I do) than to metro to work. I'd love to not have to drive every day (which is why I bike) but mass transit is a non-option for me, unless I want to pay more to take 3x longer to get to work.
It has nothing to do with some conservative strawman who doesn't want to pay taxes.
And that's DC, every metro area is different.
joechoj ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:51:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With respect, I can and I do.
I don't mean to imply anything of the sort. The root comment was from a non-American querying American transit. From this perspective, 'Americans' is writ large, referring not just to citizens but to our retrograde transit policies ... which Americans do own, whether we like it or not.
Taxes & parking are main points of resistance to transit expansion in every single city around the country. That's hardly a strawman.
Upvote to you - thanks for your local example.
FlexicanAmerican ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:53:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The biggest reason for lack of transit improvements is cost. Just keeping up with maintenance, which all systems in the US struggle with, costs a fortune. Let alone upgrading anything.
joechoj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We seem to find a way to keep shelling out for highways, however.
FlexicanAmerican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You say that as though we shouldn't. Like you could possibly do everything needed via mass transit. And as if the country can't pursue both.
joechoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's to refute the notion that we don't have money to build & maintain transit. We do have that money, we just choose to spend it almost exclusively on car-based infrastructure.
FlexicanAmerican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:48 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's ridiculous. All infrastructure is in bad shape right now. Unless you want to pay a lot more in taxes there simply isn't enough with what things cost. Especially in NYC and similar cities.
joechoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:50 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and it's in bad shape because of the overexpansion of highways in the first place, due to planners' baked-in assumption that transportation = cars. Individual cars have their advantages, but efficiency of user throughput is not among them. It's the system you get when you build for individuals rather than building for a society. The problem is that we as a society end up paying for a system that doesn't meet our transportation needs very well.
FlexicanAmerican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:33 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your perspective on societal needs is just that, your perspective. There is a lot to be said for improvement of public transit in many places but it's hardly as simple as you seem to think it is.
joechoj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:59 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool man
Upnorth4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My town's buses are around 20-30 years old, so your right there. Some towns near me just have those short buses as their form of public transit
SnarfraTheEverliving ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:01:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The train has mobile phone tickets as they're changing the subway to that too http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/10/mta-announces-plan-to-phase-out-metrocard.html
Fritzed ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:30:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The New York Subway system is a time capsule of state of the art transportation from 30 years ago.
I live in the Seattle area and the transit passes have been RFID for nearly a decade.
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:25:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seattle has a total daily ridership of about 390,000 people. In New York itโs 5.7 million just on the subway and another ~2.5 million on buses. New York has an insane number of bus stops, buses, subway stations, and transit options that make it difficult to deploy any new system quickly.
phenorbital ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:21:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For reference I just checked the stats and London is 1.37bn/year, so ~3.8m a day.
Don't have the stats for stops there, but I agree it's gonna be a fair few so it's certainly not impossible to bring in a new payment method. The problem NY has is the lack of will to do so.
meiyoumayo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think in New York it's a lack of political will, money woes, and the fact that the subway system is 24/7, whereas save for a couple of lines, London does shut down for part of the night, which means that there's a little more time to do work. And while I lived there, it seemed like they were much more OK with shutting down large portions of the system for repairs, refurbishment, and expansion. It was annoying, of course, especially when parts of the lines I used shut down, but when I walked through the nice, clean stations and got onto the nice, clean (before you post cynical comments in response, I'm from New York, so my bar is low) Tube cars that went to lots and lots of places, I understood why. A little investment and sacrifice go a long way.
batty3108 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:34:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maths!
London:
270 Stations on the Underground, with 3.8m journeys per day - Approx 14,000 journeys per station.
19,000 bus stops, with 6.5m journeys per day. That's 342 journeys per bus stop.
NYC:
468 stations, 5.7m journeys daily. 12,000 journeys per station.
16,350 bus stops, 2.5m journeys daily. That makes 152 journeys per stop.
So the subway/tube networks deal with broadly the same volume of passengers per station, but the buses in London are dealing with over double the number of passengers per stop. Fittingly, London has around twice as many actual buses as NYC (8,000 vs ~4800).
Overall, I'd say the two systems are broadly comparable, so I'm fully in agreement that if London can have smartcards across the network, so can New York, and that the lack of will is the real barrier.
cake_flattener1 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:29:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans have only just got round to adopting chip-and-PIN. Give them time, they're a little backward.
GraySentinel ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:38:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, technically we still don't. We have chip and sign. Less secure but just as expensive to implement. Also still does not allow us compatibility with the rest of the developed world, as the blank-faced stares from the cashiers in London told me so plainly when their system asked for something so archaic as a 'signature'. Sigh.
lupuscapabilis ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:17:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use my card as chip and pin all the time.
GraySentinel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:20:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Which card? I've got three chip cards and none of them allow for PIN access (except at ATMs, which barely counts).
Fritzed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:32:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Officially, Visa and Mastercard have left it up to individual card issues to choose between preferring PIN or signature in the US. However, they both strongly recommend chip and signature for some reason.
melissapete24 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:32:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? My Visa card strongly recommended chip and PIN. I still don't understand how the chip is more secure, though, honestly. If someone grabbed my card from me and used it, say, online, the purchase would still go through just fine, because they have the entire card's information right there, except for address. How is that more secure?
I am genuinely asking, as Google has been no help, and I have always wondered: Exactly how is a card with a chip more secure than a card without a chip? I could still swipe my mother's card and buy something with it, and she'd still get charged. I truly want to know. Also, for the record, I would never actually use my mother's card unless she first gave me permission to do so.
Fritzed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:32:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As for your personal experience, remember that you don't get your Visa card from Visa, you get it from an independent issuer (someone like capital one or your bank). Visa's official stance is that chip and signature is preferred in the US, but an issuer is fully free to disagree and prefer chip and pin. I'm not aware of any major issuers to have done this, but I'm sure there have been at least a couple of smaller ones.
In regards to chip card security, there are a few things that make it more secure. For chip and PIN, obviously the PIN is validated in real time and serves as an additional means of authentication.
As for the chip card itself (or chip and signature), the primary security advantage is a lack of replayability. That means that if someone were to intercept the card data either in transmission or at the reader, the data is mostly useless to them (for physical purchases). Every time that the card is dipped, the chip generates a one-time signature. Without the actual chip, you can't generate a valid signature.
An important caveat is that the reader does still get access to the card number. So somebody could theoretically get that card number and put it on an old fashioned mag-stripe only card or key it into the internet for an online order. Each of these is protected against in other ways.
For making a physical replica card with only mag-stripe, the card authorization network will recognize that there should be a chip on the card and merchants with chip capable hardware will rightly reject it. (and according to the current rules, merchants without chip capable hardware are nearly defenseless against chargebacks)
For online purchases, every site of any value at all should be validating the Card Code from the back of the card. This value is only physically printed on the card. It does not exist in the chip or the mag stripe, so it isn't available to skimmers.
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:21 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, but let's say I did steal my mother's card. I could still use the chip and sign method with it and make a purchase quite easily and successfully. Then all I'd have to do is toss the card so it's not found on my person, and, depending on where I used the card, if there are no cameras I could get off scot-free. Where I live, it is not uncommon for stores to have chip readers but not necessarily security cameras, not to mention small vendors or people that have a business in their home. I just feel like the chip is only more secure in certain instances, and even so, you can still make fraudulent purchases with them. My friend Laura has had that happen multiple times since she got her chip card. She's on her 3rd or 4th completely new card now.
Fritzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:16 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's correct, but physical card theft is by far the least common type of fraud.
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:59 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even with a chip card, though, if someone manages to get ahold of your card numbers (code on the back included), they can still use that. And then you still have a fraudulent charge that you have to contact the bank/credit card company about. It seems to me it only really offers protection against skimmers, at least, if I'm understanding correctly what you wrote in your original response.
Fritzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:17 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's correct. There really isn't any protection against somebody physically having your card. For the most part, this is considered an acceptable risk in the industry. Large scale skimming and leaks are the bigger problem for most people.
That being said, it is something that chip+pin indirectly protects against because the chip+pin flow requires that the card status in your presence as you enter the pin. At that point, you are really only worrying about having your wallet stolen.
tmiw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:13:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, Amazon definitely doesn't do that--at least on the US site, anyway. They may still be verifying the billing address, however.
phenorbital ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do in the UK for sure.
tmiw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might be legally required there? Since I don't think it is in the US, Amazon probably crunched the numbers and realized they lost more from people abandoning their orders than they saved on fraud.
Of course, this calculation could eventually change at some point.
phenorbital ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might not be a legal requirement, but the card issuers could all require it... I guess either way that's certainly plausible.
Fritzed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been a while since I put a new card in Amazon, but I believe that it does require the card code on the first attempt. I know for certain that they do validate billing address and new customers are restricted to shipping to their billing address.
tmiw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember the latter part but I've had an Amazon account for a while, too. It's also possible the code thing's changed recently.
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:09 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Amazon asked for mine when I first added it to my wallet. I'm most definitely in the US and have always been.
eyeGunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as I know you can't skim a chip. Example of skimmer
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:56 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will have to click this link at home. I can't get on YouTube on our work computers, sadly. We used to be able to when I first started here, but then they blocked it, which is sad, because I used to use YouTube for background music at my desk, so I didn't have to wear down my phone battery. shrugs Oh well; I've got a much newer phone now, and the battery more than holds up, so I really shouldn't complain now. Lol.
But thanks for this information! I was truly curious, and, as I said, when I Googled, all I could find was articles saying that they ARE more secure, but none explained the how or the why.
tmiw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turns out a lot of people extremely dislike stuff like portable card terminals at restaurants that would end up becoming necessary if PIN was common. It's no surprise that mandating PIN on a card could be a hassle for both the cardholder and the bank, or even worse, make it so that restaurants and other merchants simply don't bother with the chip at all.
(I have one of the few cards that require PIN and have had merchants outright reject it before because of that. Others insert my card the wrong way so that their terminal would let them swipe or even just manually enter the card number to get around the PIN prompt. I don't use that card much anymore.)
mathcampbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a portable terminal in restaurants all the time. Never had a problem using it. Never seen anyone else complain either...if it's under ยฃ30, I just use my phone...
tmiw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I have to guess, I bet it's the tipping culture in the US that makes those disliked. It's a lot easier to implement elsewhere when there's no pressure coming from the server standing there while you enter a tip into the terminal.
mathcampbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't see even then why they'd be disliked, but hey ho. I mean, I use them to tip...when they're standing there and tell you the bill, if I feel like they warrant a tip, I'll say ten.; e.g. "OK sir, that will be ยฃ24.30, please" "Sure, thanks, just round it up to ยฃ30" "OK, thank you. Either tap your card, or insert and type your PIN number" "Sure. Thanks" as I mentally regret the tip because it ALREADY SAYS NUMBER IN IT!!!ARRGHHHHHHH... And, breathe...
DontTreadOnBigfoot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debit generally allows for chip and PIN, credit almost always requires chip and sign.
mathcampbell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I've even signed my last few cards...
I get a bit surprised if I have to use my PIN. Usually I just use Apple-pay on my phone, and occasionally because it's over the retailer's limit, I have to use my actual card and type the PIN!
Quite a lot of the time, I leave my wallet at home. Don't need it. Change is in the car if I need coins (rarely, if ever), and I have my phone for card payments...
MasterRonin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in London, whenever I paid with my card, the cashier would actually ask to see my Photo ID to match the signature with the one i wrote on the receipt.
Then I figured out that contactless was everywhere and just used Android pay for everything
lunchbox15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even better at gas stations we have chip + zipcode, because noone that steals you're credit card will ever be able to figure out you're zip code.
kmartin003 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:52:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Boston, our Charlie Cards have been tap for a while too.
Princecoyote ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:21:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Washington, DC has had SmartTrip tap cards for a while as well.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:25:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only place in the US with actual functional public transit is New York (no DC, Boston, Chicago - please sit down - you still own a car and you know it.)
We used tokens on the MTA (NYC Subway) until the early 00's. I moved here right as they were being phased out and I don't really remember the term people used for employing one.
But since the introduction of the MetroCard, people have always said "swipe." They've been talking for years about replacing MetroCards with a system where you can pay with your credit card. But knowing how the MTA operates, I wouldn't hold my breath.
tylenol1234 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Arguing that MTA could add X feature because they already have it in Philadelphia/Miami/Duluth metro is like arguing that the U.S. could adopt universal healthcare because Scandinavian countries have it.
PizzaEatingPanda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apple and Android Pay only works if your phone is on. Sucks when your phone battery dies...
meiyoumayo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've lived in both NYC and London. I LOVE the Oyster card, simply because "touch or hover card on big yellow thing" takes so much less effort and dexterity than swiping a MetroCard. You're only very rarely stuck behind tourists or drunk people (or you're not holding up the line while drunk/tired) who just can't get their card to work.
Though when I came back to NYC, it took me about a month to stop taking my MetroCard out again when I got off the train and was getting ready to leave the subway station.
BorderlineWire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't downloaded it yet, but I see advertised on tele yesterday oyster have released their own top up app. Wonderful really if it works. Where I live all the busses are TFL and the trains are one zone out and there's literally one shop in the whole place that will top up your oyster and If you didn't know the area you'd never find it. I wonder if that'll be something like paying with your phone and you'd be able to tap with the phone not the card, or buy tickets through it.
My home town has no smart card but has an app you can buy tickets on.
batty3108 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:51:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped using my Oyster card about a year before I left London. I used Southern's Key Smartcard for my journey to work, and contactless debit for the tube/buses.
I actually can't believe it took this long for TfL to release an app for topping up Oyster. I had Auto-Top Up on mine, but so many people didn't know that was a thing, and it was really fiddly to set up and manage. I was also in Zone 3, so never far from a station. It would have driven me barmy not being able to top up that easily!
BorderlineWire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is key any good? is it more cost effective than oyster? They take that at my stop but I donโt really know anything about it, I donโt take the train as regularly as I used to. Iโd like to go places more.
batty3108 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs pretty useful if the alternative is a paper ticket - you can manage it online and you donโt need a photo card.
You can either buy specific tickets, or put credit on it. You can do both at the same time.
PAYG only seemed to work at exclusively Southern stations though - if you tried to use it at Balham (where I used to live) and you only had credit and not a ticket, it wouldnโt work.
Prices are the same as regular tickets, so no savings really. Is just easier to use a tap card than fanny about with paper tickets.
Martipar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:48:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, Oyster was an almost complete failure. It was only adopted by the TFL for transport payment when it's original goal was a pre-paid card similar to the current contactless payment systems around now, able to pay for anything anywhere.
meiyoumayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually think it would be kinda nice to have some stored value you could use for other stuff on the Oyster Card. When I lived in London, I'd go running with just my house keys, my phone, and my Oyster Card so I could run as long a distance as I pleased and not have to think about looping back, and I remember thinking it would be so convenient if I could just use my Oyster Card to buy a drink or a snack on my way home, instead of remember to bring my debit card/some cash, or just suck it up until I got home. I think the Beijing transit card (Yikatong) can be used at KFC and a couple of other places.
destinyofdoors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about Beijing, as I only ever used the one-time tickets, but in HK, the number off places that took Octopus was astounding to me.
zontarzontar ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:11:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's kind of comparing apples to oranges, but the Boston subway has a free tap card that feels like a credit card. If Boston can do it, why not NY? Oh right, the absolute massive scale of the system and the urgent need for more essential repairs.
๐๏ธ Allen_MacGyverson ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:15:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotcha, but what I'm saying is that even if I'm using this tap card for for access, there will probably be a guy next to me asking to "swipe him in".
zontarzontar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are absolutely correct, and I'll be standing on the other side of him confused because I thought we were still actually swiping.
SnarfraTheEverliving ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:58:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NYC is discontinuing the metrocard soonish. Apparently it's going to be smartphone based. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/10/mta-announces-plan-to-phase-out-metrocard.html
MrCrash ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair, the boston subway also needs a serious overhaul and systemic repairs. But they prioritized overhauling the system that gets them your fucking money as fast as possible.
Once they have your money, you can sit on the platform while disabled trains go by and the loudspeaker tells you that the track switches are offline. Get ready for adventure!
TwatsThat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If more phones had MST like Samsung phones then they could use that without having to make any changes to hardware in the subway stations.
kloudykat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:33:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is MST?
pooh9911 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:10:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Simulate magnetic card swipe, Samsung Pay exclusive.
TwatsThat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:19:18 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It stands for Magnetic Secure Transmission and as u/pooh9911 said it's what lets Samsung Pay simulate a card swipe.
kloudykat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:07 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
TwatsThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:06 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no problem. It's really convenient tech and it'd be nice if it was more common.
romple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DC is all contactless too (but our tracks literally ignite in flames every now and then so....)
MikeFichera ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bostons subway closes at night. which blew my mind.
Tearakan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have that in Chicago. The tap card is nice.
TransitRanger_327 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also there is cell service in the tunnels.
Wierd657 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MTA has cell and WiFi in most stations now, not in the tunnels however
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was resistant to Ventra at first because I would always lose my CTA passes very quickly and enjoyed being able to get a new one free of charge at any time lol.
terriblymad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In DC, we tap our cards. You don't even have to wait for the gate to close before the next person taps theirs. Our metro may be literally on fire, but at least we don't have to swipe.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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destinyofdoors ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love the system of the Nanjing Metro. The single-ride access medium is a plastic RFID-enabled token that has the value of your chosen ride on it.
TheAppleFreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're planning on beginning integration tests for cardless entry in 2021 or 2022, I believe. It'll support NFC MetroCards, NFC enabled mobile phones, and even mobile payment systems like Apple Pay and Android Pay.
a_trane13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Madrid you just tap your regular state ID (which has a chip for such things) on the thingy and off you go. My friend just sets his wallet on the turnstyle and it works.
George_H_W_Kush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The CTA in Chicago has been switched over to plastic cards you load value on to and tap on the turnstile as you enter. Way more convenient than shoving the old mag stripe paper cards through a card slot
flyingfences ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The PATH has an RFID card.
SouffleStevens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure everywhere else has gone 100% contactless. DC and Chicago and Montreal have. Seems like it's less prone to failure from the card getting demagnetized or bending.
AlbanianDad ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:25:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DFW you're a real New Yorker and get it on the first swipe without breaking walking rhythm.
DFW you can also refill your metrocard in under 8 seconds. Only thing slowing me down is the machine processing.
Ok fine I'm not able to do it every single time...
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:28:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DFW you feel like a real New Yorker and walk at full speed into the locked turnstile because youโre overconfident.
foxymcfox ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:59:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs when you just hop it, run onto the waiting train and realize they are being held by the trainโs dispatcher for another 10 minutes.
AlbanianDad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:01:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's okay sometimes it's nice when it feels like I got punched in the pelvis as a reminder to be humble, right?
MikeFichera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i've done it and bruised myself.
smoove ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:36:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Metrocards are designed to work at walking speed.
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:42:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you've ever slammed your pubic bone into the turnstile when the card reader didn't read your Metrocard, you'll see the flaw in their design.
Vaulter1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:23:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have two choices then:
Approach the turnstile at a walking speed of 3.1 mph and at a distance of approximately 1 ft from the start of the chutes slow your walking pace to approximately 1 mph. Simultaneously extend your right hand, accelerating it to 2.1 mph relative to your body, and swipe your card through the reader. At this point there should be 1.5 ft between your leading foot and the actual turnstile barrier. As you shift your weight on to it, glance over at the card reader to ensure the swipe was valid. This is your go/no-go point where forward motion should be slow enough that you can stop before hitting the turnstile, should the swipe be rejected. If your calculations were correct, the swipe should be valid and you can then accelerate back up to 3.1 mph, casually rotating the barrier and going about your daily commute.
alternatively
Just do what everyone else does and stop right in front of one of the chutes then rummage in your wallet/purse for your metrocard. After you've found it, stand flat footed in front of the turnstile and swipe the card at varying speeds until it accepts the swipe. Don't move yet though - you've got to get back on your phone and finish typing that urgent Facebook post. OK, now you can proceed through the turnstiles at the blistering 1 mph and continue annoying everyone around you.
GothWitchOfBrooklyn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:43:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol yesterday a lady did just that. Starbucks in one hand, rummaging around in her purse with the other, standing IN the turnstile. I have no problem calling these people out though idgaf
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:16:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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GothWitchOfBrooklyn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yuppppppppp
welldressedaccount ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm tall enough that wont happen with me. Instead it lines up perfect with my pockets and I crack my phone screen.
kloudykat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Based on your comment, I'm guessing you have done this exactly twice.
Lamar_Scrodum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:57:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve just factored getting stiff armed by the turnstile into my commute time
Zanzabushino ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In NYC, if you need to swipe more than once THEN YOU FAIL AT BEING A NY-ER. Everyone judges you, they're mad at you, and either secretly or directly call you a tourist.
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:17:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then every New Yorker judges every other New Yorker. Which we already know to be true.
meiyoumayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There really is no shame like PLEASE SWIPE AGAIN AT THIS TURNSTILE.
MikeFichera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
especially in the mornings,
--__--__---__--___-- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only amateurs and tourists need more than one swipe
codewench ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you have some asshole kids who like to stuff shit into the card reader every day, and you have to spend some time pulling gum off your card.
blladnar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today I managed to swipe the card in the right direction every time! I did have to switch turnstiles to get it to actually work though.
madepopular ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True! I just visited for the first time last month and was so proud of myself when by the end of the week I had it down to just one swipe. Legit new yourka here!
Milhouse_is_a_meme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally my morning.
These "Opal" cards we have in Australia for trains and buses are great when they work.
Cue me standing at the gate with my bricked card getting the failure "BLINGBLONG" noise as my train pulls out.
MikeFichera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
only if yous a rookie.
cornichon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:43:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If youโre a rube
4152510 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:15:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hyper local. SF never had a swipe, you either deposited coins or feed the turnstiles a magnetic card. Now it's RFID.
cream-of-cow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I call my Clipper card a slap card, but they're experimenting with putting the payment system on smartphones, so that'll be outdated soon.
sykopoet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I can't wait until they finally put Clipper on smartphones. Then I never have to stand in line at the 1 in 6 BART machines currently working while being hassled for change...
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:03:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh did you even token?
thesurlyengineer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:56:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
did? In philly it's more a do
cheddarcheesie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hey now, we didn't roll out the key for no reason
AlmanzoWilder ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:05:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In NY you just dropped your token. And the tokens never expired. And they always worked. It was a more civilized age.
4152510 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:15:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Philly still does this.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're kidding! I did not know.
ColonelYuri ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:35:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely always been a tap or touch in London - touch sounds kind of creepy to me though, like you're caressing the reader.
infestans ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we kind of cram our charlie tickets into holes here in Boston, or smash your wallet with your charlie card in it against the fucking turnstile until you give up and throw your backpack over the gate.
I miss tokens
SheeEttin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably still have some back at home.
SailedBasilisk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or a "hop"
VAPossum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:25:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find that so weird, since tokens were used 40 years before swipes were, but I don't know what they'd do to replace swipes. Taps, maybe, like tapping a card, phone, or a smart watch thing?
cheddarcheesie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:14:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
philadelphia currently accepts both tokens and taps from key cards. what a place.
runtimemess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My local subway system is actually phasing out "swipes" and replacing them with taps.
End of an era.
mistrali2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve caught myself saying I โswiped inโ (instead of โtapped onโ) several times now.
Car-face ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this applies to credit cards too - we "swipe" credit cards even though they're almost always chip or rfid now.
Sayakai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're living in a civilized area, where you can just walk in.
jerdub1993 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:00:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....what?
clairen ยท 672 points ยท Posted at 15:10:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Record for new albums.
montarion ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 17:51:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they're still recorded aren't they?
clairen ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guess so!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Jack_Vermicelli ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:45:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's irrelevant-- they're still records (n). They're not vinyl LPs, but they're still records.
clairen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. People have made some good points about vinyl and also the origin of the term record and album.
montarion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry? I think I'm missing some background on the word record..
[deleted] ยท 299 points ยท Posted at 15:25:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except if they come out on vinyl.
GodMonster ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:31:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically any physical or digital reproduction of the original is a record, as in a record of the event of the audio being produced.
lfantine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/55AZRDkMZJs
Reminds me of this song.
GodMonster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I was paraphrasing, subconsciously. I knew that I had heard it before but couldn't remember exactly where. I used to listen to "So Much Shouting, So Much Laughter" all the time. I love the drumming on the first disc.
lfantine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool that our minds connected on that!
Hat_in_the_cat19 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 18:13:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be totally wrong here but wasnโt it called a record Iโm the first place because it recorded the sound? In that sense it still is kinda true.
Juicy_Brucesky ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:46:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
honestly that's the case with a lot of the shit in this thread. All these things mostly got their name due to the function, not what they were
SirEarlBigtitsXXVII ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:51:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's polyvinylchloride to you.
servohahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And all the ones that don't come out on vinyl too.
felixfelix ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:30:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's still a record (or archive) of the original music.
some-dev ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 15:26:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey most new releases still come out on vinyl too.
Ashybuttons ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 15:35:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin's band actually sells more vinyl records than they do CDs.
Jettrode ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 16:49:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is likely true for most bands.
Source: buy tons of vinyl records and no CDs
Harborcoat84 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:23:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I have spotify, so buying a CD I'll just rip and listen to digitally is pointless, but vinyl is an experience.
Chazzysnax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody buys cds anymore, they're outdated. Records are outdated as well but they at least have advantages ovet digital music. CDs are already digital but almost as inconvenient as records.
benisimo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:49:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself. My physical collection is literally all CDs, even though I just rip them anyways and put in my ipod. Though I might start collecting vinyl in the near future.
Chazzysnax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but that's your physical collection, not many people need a physical collection of digital music anymore.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:55:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vinyl and Cassette tapes are killing off CDs. Its hilarious.
Ashybuttons ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:57:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm waiting for them to start putting out music on those little wax cylinders.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:59:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know of at least one indie band in the last few years to actually do so.
Ashybuttons ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:00:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol, of course. What band?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:32:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im having trouble finding the band right now. I either saw it in /r/cassetteculture or on this old Nirvana forum I post on
I did find this link though. Apparently a Tiny Tim track had a limited retro release on wax a few years ago.
http://entertainment.time.com/2013/09/09/forget-vinyl-new-recording-is-most-retro-ever/
Medic_101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm waiting for LaserDiscs to make a comeback. ...Any day now.
The-Only-Razor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:51:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least vinyl sounds good. Cassette is the most ludicrous fad, considering their overall inconvenience and objectively poorer sound quality.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cassettes have been back for a few years man, definitely not a fad. With a good stereo they can sound as good as vinyl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVoSQP2yUYA Highly recommend you check this video out.
AveLucifer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It costs me about $6 to buy a cassette, shipped. A CD would cost double, and an LP would be at least 4-5 times that.
The-Only-Razor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it really worth it though? The price inhibit of LP is understandable. But for a few extra bucks for a CD you get a format that sounds better and provides the added benefit of extractable MP3s for infinitely more compatibility options. From what I remember, they jam and get scratchy after many playthroughs. They just seem like a complete headache.
AveLucifer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of cassettes nowadays also come with digital download codes. Regardless, ripping a cassette is very easy. Most problems with cassettes arise due to poor maintenance of playback equipment. You're right in saying that audio quality of often worse, but depending on the nature of the music that may not be an issue.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The advantage of cassette is they're easier to store and a lot cheaper, so they're easier to collect.
temp0557 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Subjective.
Accuracy however isn't subjective. Frankly, I believe you can fake the sound of vinyl by running it through a post process filter.
PS: Got a feeling I'm poking a hornet's nest here. LOL
Edit: Just remembered, I believe a lot of vinyl records nowadays are created from digital masters. ๐คฃ
UGMadness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait for the 8-track to become a fad again.
Chadbraham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Records are just cooler and more fun to collect than CDs.
temp0557 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:48:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quite sure it's MP3s and AAC files that have killed of CDs - for mainstream use.
CDs never had "vintage" appeal like vinyl and cassette tapes as they just aren't old enough - yet.
Ironically, CDs and digital files store music better as they degrade less (if at all) compared to vinyl (physical groves in plastic subjected to wear and tear) and cassette tape (magnetic strips can "wear out" over time).
Bagel_-_Bites ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:02:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes sense. I'm pretty sure vinyl sales are as high or higher now than they have ever been. With Bluetooth and spotify being so prevalent and more convenient than CDs, people that are looking to buy physical most likely prefer a larger, more complete work of art with a vinyl record.
Publix_Deli ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:17:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also those plastic CD jewel cases were THE WORST
do_not_spit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No way are sales "as high or higher now than they have ever been." They are just outselling other mediums, people are still buying music but nowhere near the amount we were buying "pre-file sharing". Music industry used to outperform Hollywood, that power is looooong gone.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:53:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ashybuttons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Love as Laughter
mcgovernor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm curious why you thought of this one specific band without any extra info?
1mikeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only reason to buy a CD was because of the digital format. That format has been replaced with the MP3, so CD's are basically dead at this point. Vinyl is the only source for analog format at this this point.
nachoknuckles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much no one wants cds anymore. A lot of smaller bands use cassette and bigger bands use vinyl. I feel like The only people who buy cds are people who don't have aux ports in their cars
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And cassette tapes are coming back! At least in the rock world. The latest While She Sleeps, Enter Shikari, Nothing But Thieves & Don Broco albums have had limited addition tapes as part of pre-order bundles.
Publix_Deli ยท 266 points ยท Posted at 15:33:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "album" too. It referred to a cardboard booklet that contained records, like a photo album.
2PhatCC ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 16:00:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, the dictionary definition - for musical purposes - is a collection of recordings issued as a single item. So album is usually quite accurate unless everyone's releasing singles.
Publix_Deli ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 16:14:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. That's the definition now. Before vinyl LP records were introduced in the 1940s, records were made of shellac and could only store about five minutes of music on each side. Collections of pop songs, as well as longer classical music pieces, were sold as sets in a printed "record album" which had sleeves for each record and was bound together like a book.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:59:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Chazzysnax ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:20:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And EP is extended play which is confusing to us now since we're used to albums - why would a shorter version be called extended? Because when singles were the norm, having 4-6 songs was an extension.
Boltorano ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sort of like how "Heavy Duty" batteries refer specifically to zinc chloride chemistry and are cheap junk that is worse than alkaline.
hecticengine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An EP was typically a 12" 45 RPM release. Relative to a 7" single it was extended.
Chazzysnax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly.
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're gonna have similar problems when people realize we didn't cover the entire conceivable scale of resolutions when they invented the terms "standard definition" and "high definition", and already have to some point with shit like "Ultra HD". If the societal collapse wasn't imminent, in 20 years we'd have "Hyper mega ultra super makes-ultra-hd-look-like-cave-paintings HD" and people will be sad if their 3000" 5D TV with natural solar reaction backlight only supports Mega ultra super makes-ultra-hd-look-like-cave-paintings HD.
Chazzysnax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point, it really won't be long at all before people are asking why they call it high definition when it's not even 4k.
Techwood111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EPs played at 45RPM though, didn't they? Form factor of LPs, but faster speed, allowing for more data depth.
Chazzysnax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure you're right but you're point doesn't contradict mine. 12" 45rpm EPs play longer than 6" 45 rpm singles but, despite the name, are shorter than 12" 33rpm LPs. Although nowadays you can just do whatever you want, I have a couple 10" 33rpm EPs and a 12" single.
Techwood111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The EPs I used to have were mostly singles, though. That's the whole "dance mix" thing. They were extended play singles.
Maybe I don't understand, but s'ok; my vinyl days are long gone.
Chazzysnax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I usually think of EPs as having more songs than a single, thus the confusion.
Techwood111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, especially looking at the derivation being from an older meaning of "blank tablet" or something. Emphasis on the blank. I always viewed it as being the collection itself, not the container then used for a specific collection. Etymology is fascinating. I'd have fought you on this, but read up on it. I think you are right.
So often, you see things like this that are just flat-out wrong. The belief that a word's origin being one thing is so strong, that it effectively becomes the truth, and the REAL origin is made out to be a myth. I guess you see similar things in religion; just look at Christmas, for instance. "Remember the reason for the season!" Okay, let's remember axial tilt.
AlmanzoWilder ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 17:10:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Wikipedia: An album is a collection of audio recordings issued as a single item on CD, record, audio tape or another medium.
Publix_Deli ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:13:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonograph_record#Record_albums
AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, good show. You are correct.
sadate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you not read your own link? Even for reddit thatโs low.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:31:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for your kind words.
rawbface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see this as using an antiquated term. A music album is supposed to literally be a collection of art, not much differing from a photo album. The album is in the collection, and not the form of media.
Publix_Deli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A photo album is a physical book used for storing photos, not just a collection of photos. A bunch of photos hanging on the wall, or glued into a scrapbook, are not a photo album. A stack of photos sitting on the table is not a photo album. The word was co-opted by software companies because the "albums" in your phone's photo library are the digital equivalent of a physical photo album. It's just like the word "file" used to refer to a physical file drawer full of punch cards, or a bug was a literal insect inside the computer.
Similarly, the phrase "record album" referred to the book with protective sleeves to hold several records. When the format changed and the physical albums weren't required anymore, people kept saying "album" because it was a word people had already been using for decades.
I'm not saying that the word "album" is incorrect. Words change in their meaning over time. The etymological history of the word, though, has nothing to do with something being a collection of anything. The origin of the word is entirely due to the physical format that was used 100 years ago. It's the exact sort of thing that OP was asking for examples of when he/she created this thread.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if he/she will continue to deny it.
badcgi ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:18:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The origin of the term Album for music came about because early records only held a couple of minutes per side. So a collection of recordings were released in a book of sleeves like a photo album.
AlmanzoWilder ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:09:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? A photo album has a bunch of photos presented together. A song album has a group of songs presented together. Doesn't have anything to do with the "booklet" format. Tapes, CDs, are still albums.
Publix_Deli ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:20:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Believe it or not, sometimes the current meaning of words is completely different from their origins. In fact, that's what this entire thread is about!
Brawndo91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if they'll go over this entire thread pointing to the dictionary and insisting that all terms are current.
sadate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone should make a thread about that exact topic!
AlmanzoWilder ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:34:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I maintain that the meaning "collection of songs" was the former AND the current meaning.
badcgi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:16:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You would be 100% wrong.
GroovingPict ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When the medium was 78 rpm 10" shellac records, they were basically all "singles" in that they had one song on each side usually. An artist often still released albums, which were then literally an album of several records, under a common title. Just like the person you are responding to said. That is the origin of the term album in the musical sense. Of course since then the meaning has shifted a little, but only because several songs could be fitted on one record all of a sudden: it is still a collection of several songs grouped together under one title. So in that sense the meaning hasnt changed.
Here's an example of an old shellac album, containing 4 records in that case, or 8 songs total. It would often be more.
roomandcoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that was a term that was already outdated by the time most vinyl records were out.
servohahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah and they had awesome liner notes and whatnot.
LemonJongie23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In kpop CDs are literally called albums and I kinda like it
Drunken-samurai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also while we don't usually say LP, we do still say EP for CD's when referring to a release with only about 4-6 tracks.
(LP - Long Play, EP - Extended play)
stereofailure ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:49:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. The obsolete part of a record was the word vinyl, not record itself. A vinyl record was a recording (or record) that happened to be pressed on vinyl, but to save time people just called them records. But no matter what it's recorded to (tape recorder, for instance, video recorder, digital recorder) it's still a record, so that part never became obsolete, and its usage far predates vinyl records (think a written record of the proceedings).
temp0557 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know ... if I'm right, a lot of vinyl records nowadays are actually created from digital masters. :P
KevinCostNerf ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:25:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean? They were recorded, regardless of media support.
eddietwang ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:34:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? They're still recorded.
MaddenMan73 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:46:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording?
kkehoe5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the Grammys has record of the year and album of the year awards. Record for a single song and album for the whole....album.
IMLOwl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm speculating, but in 1959 when the Grammy's began, most songs were sold as stand-alone singles, so what you think now as a 'record' was originally just the one song and sometimes a b-side. Just like in the original case, I think it's just the vernacular changing.
titaniumjackal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, they are still records. Vinyl discs were only called records because they contained recordings. CDs still contain recordings.
Do you think the Hall of Records used to be full of vinyl? I'm glad record of my birth was done on paper, not a vinyl plate.
jdsizzle1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're still recordings
KZedUK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EP and LP.
ErixTheRed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, each song is called a "track" or if you think you're hip, a "cut".
Tired8281 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You missed the 80's, when it was a 'lick'.
EnergyIsQuantized ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what's the original meaning then?
ChadHahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Albums originally meant a book of 78 records. Each 78 would have a song per side and if the company had a a group of songs they'd put them in an album.
I see that this has already been said numerous times. :(
JohnnyHighGround ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โPeople used to make records, as in a record of an event: the event of people playing music in a room.โ (Thatโs a line from Ani Difrancoโs โFuel.โ)
FindingUsernamesSuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pronounced Rekit.
-Jay-Z
galacticninth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ennhh, I'd say this one is still somewhat accurate. What we used to call a "record" as in a vinyl record was only called that because something was "recorded" on to it. Modern day music even streaming or mp3's are still "recorded". Only now, they are more likely to be recorded on computers.
Willmono7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
didn't the concept of "recording" something exist before vinyls were referred to as records?
civex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Albums. Original albums were containers for collections of things: photograph albums, record albums from when records had two songs on a single 78RPM shellac disc, stamp albums.
When 33 1/3 records came out with maybe 6 songs on each side, the disc was called an album because it had a collection of songs, even though it was still one disc.
bootleg_pants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's true, like saying something is 'hot off the press'
plazman30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A record is the single. There's a Grammy for Record of the Year, which goes to a song, and Album of the Year, which goes to a completed work of multiple songs.
In the late 80s/early 90s, a lot of people started albums "discs" for obvious reasons. I remember my brother telling me about a disc I had to listen to. The trend seemed to die out and album came back into fashion. People used to refer to albums and "tapes" also when the compact cassette was at it's heyday.
mishasyeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Record connotes vinyl, which is a synecdoche for a phonograph, but it started as shorthand because phonographs were for many years the only way to get a recording. Technically, a "record" is still correct for any released music media, regardless of format, and the Grammy's still use "record" in the original sense. That's why there's an Record of the Year (single track) in addition to Album of the Year category.
GoodShitLollypop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh no. There are things called vinyl records that many people called records, but that alone doesn't change the meaning of the word "record" which is just a documenting of something that happened.
noahboddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what he said. "Connotes" means "suggests to many people, but doesn't literally mean." You're thinking of "denotes," which means means.
mishasyeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Connotation is not definition. The definition of record is a document of something that happened. But when discussing music, if someone says "record," most people think of the thing actually named a phonograph.
Tired8281 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about EDM assembled from samples in something like Ableton? It spits out piece of music but nothing actually happened. If I press that to CD, do I have a record?
mishasyeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, of your edit session titled "Why Did I Waste My Time?".
Tired8281 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:55 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice troll, but you gutted your own point in the process. Guess it was more important for you to try to "zing" me than to be right.
mishasyeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:29 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing that happened was the assembly -- whatever maintains that assembly is the record, be it project file or the output file or a CD. I'm too lazy to go check, but I bet the Academy would agree an all sample track would still be a "recording". And it wasn't anyone's point, it was someone else's basis for their point, both of which are correct. And a "zing" is not trolling unless I didn't mean it (I did) and just want to argue (merely a side perk).
jefuchs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Album is another one. I own a couple of antique albums. They're like a photo album, with individual pages for each single record. A collection of singles were stored together in an actual album. Later, the songs were all pressed onto a single record, but the name remained.
smilegirl01 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 21:23:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pound sign (#). Thanks Twitter.
Macblack82 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:31:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs not a pound sign, ยฃ is a pound sign.
smilegirl01 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:53:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are both considered pound signs. Sorry I did not specify for a phone, but it is still referred to as the โpoundโ or โnumberโ sign/key when referring to the symbol on a phone.
Though technically the # symbol is called an octothorp, so the deception and changing of information continues!
Do your research man!
Strummed_Out ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:00:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird, we call it a hash... and itโs just clicked why itโs called hashtag...
smilegirl01 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:08:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hat probably is how Twitter got it then. Where are you from?
Itโs interesting because even my mom uses # to replace lbs when she is talking about weight because it was just customarily called a pound sign or number sign.
Strummed_Out ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:09:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm from Australia, and yeah it basically means number sign.
smilegirl01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs cool. Learn something new everyday!
From what I know in US itโs mostly referred to as a pound sign or number sign, so I wonder how some American programmers in California discovered some Australia slang. It would be interesting to see where else itโs called a hash because Iโve never actually heard that before.
Strummed_Out ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what I can see on Wikipedia, it is used in the UK and Ireland - possibly derived from โhatchโ like hatching shading.
Macblack82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, itโs called hash in the UK. Always known it as the hash key on a phone.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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READERmii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that's why it's called a pound sign- sincerely 19 year old guy
If you had it before the 24 like this: "#24" I would have known it meant "number twenty-four" but I have never heard of it being used that way to denote weight.
FididlyDo12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I've never seen # as 'pound'. I'm from the UK, and # is just 'hash' It iritated me so much when people started calling it 'hashtag'. It's only called tag because it's used to tag things on twitter. The symbol itself is just 'hash'
AlphaQUp_Bish ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 19:06:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My FIL still calls the refrigerator an Ice Box. I have caught myself saying it now a couple of times.
Jollywoman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:32:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother does this too, I thought she was the only one ๐
Emtreidy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:36:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Pop did, too. But then he grew up during the Depression, so he actually had an ice box.
deFleury ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom grew up with a literal ice box too, and milk delivered by a horse.
Emtreidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:37 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, he had the same! Actually, my uncles (my motherโs brothers) stole a Budweiser wagon being pulled by Clydesdales. My Scottish gran had to go get them at the Precinct & the desk sergeant mistook her accent for an Irish brogue. He let them go. Not sure which she felt worse about...them being thieves or her being mistaken for Irish!
arquebus_x ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:11:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs a very New England term these days.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is funny because most freezers don't even make ice any more. I mean like frost on the inside of it.
wildgift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ice boxes were these wooden boxes where you would put a block of ice into a compartment on top. They predate the kind of refrigerators, with compressors, that we use today.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:50 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know what an icebox is sonny.
rennez77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I regularly say this because my parents and grandparents often did/do.
TomasTTEngin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the cold cupboard.
source: my aphasia
jrhooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny enough, even people who don't say "ice box" still say "ice box pie"
bigbigtea ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 17:18:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tman140 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 20:31:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I keep gloves in mine!
csl512 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:54:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a bag with some nitrile gloves in mine.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that's where my gloves are. In my glove box!
brandonhardyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, Ted Mosby
Mediocre__at__Best ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:39:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its inaccurately named. Behind its door, there's nothing to keep my fingers warm.
Farts_McGee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:05:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And all I find are souvenirs from better times
KZedUK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean the potato box
BigFatTomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The glove compartment is inaccurately named. And everybody knows it.
Ask_me_about_my_pug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean the potato compartment?
elchismoso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what came to mind.
hperrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally have two pairs of gloves in my truck's glovebox.
bigbigtea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well look at mr gloves-in-glovebox over here!
hperrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm ready to hide whatever body you need me to, and still drive in style.
bigbigtea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... always a good person to know. ;)
Do you accept cash, grass, ass or bitcoin?
BlindBeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think James May is why I say this
bigbigtea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVE James May.
mrmdc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explain.
bigbigtea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
YakumoYoukai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad would call it a Jockey Box. It annoys my wife, so I still like to call it that.
lfantine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But putting on a pair of ice-cold jockeys is so invigorating!
Reggie222 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:51:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the ancient Romans
Calendar comes from "the kalends", which for the Romans meant the first day of any month. The fifteenth of any month was "the ides". Beware those.
January is named for Janus, the god of new beginnings and transitions.
February is named for the rawhide strips used in a religious festival held that time of year.
March is for Mars, the god of war. This time of year and the honoring of Mars weren't coincidental. This is when the weather permitted the easy movement of troops, hence the launching or continuation of military campaigns.
Skipping to the end, September through December mean Seventh-month through Tenth-month, which is interesting in English today because our last four months are off by two. We're in December now, and "dec" means ten, not twelve. September means seventh month (sept comes from the Latin word for seven, and is the French word for seven today), but it's our ninth month. The shifting is due to Julius Caesar and his adopted son and heir, Augustus. Julius, after becoming dictator, decided to insert a month at his favorite time of year and named it after himself, hence July. Augustus did the same thing after becoming emperor, hence Augustus. The remaining months kept their names because tradition trumped accuracy (another way Romans are just like us).
Testimony -- this is our word for speaking on the record in a court of law. The word's meaning can be seen in its roots -- testes and testicle. This is because in ancient Rome, when you spoke on the record in a court of law, you swore on your balls. This is not a joke!
Saturday is named for Saturn, the the Roman god of wealth, agriculture, and a few other things.
Candidate comes from the clothing of a Roman standing for election, which was an especially white toga called toga candida.
Emperor is our word for the leader of an empire, but that's not what it meant to the Romans of Augustus' world in the first century. In Latin, it's Imperator, which means a person who has been granted imperium by the Roman senate, and imperium meant that you held the legal right to levy and train soldiers and conduct warfare on behalf of Rome. It was perhaps the most powerful honor the senate could bestow on an individual, and it signified immense trust because the Romans were fearful of tyranny. Augustus led the nation of Rome and held imperium, as well as those who came after, and over time, the two meanings blended together, and eventually the "nation of Rome" part fell away to become generic for any large, powerful country with an eye to expansion.
Subjugate -- to us this means to enslave or control. It was the same for Romans, but it was more colorful and symbolic. In Latin it means under (sub) and yoke (jugate); literally, under the yoke. An ox is controlled because he's under the yoke, and if you do that to people, you've conquered them. Welcome to Rome.
Circus -- to a Roman this was a stadium for chariot racing, not a place to exhibit animals (some were multi-purpose, and the meaning changed somewhat over time). The Circus Maximus in the city of Rome could host 150,000 people, and chariot racing for Romans was the equivalent of F1 or NASCAR today. The teams and drivers were famous and there was betting on the races.
Gladiator -- the true meaning had already fallen out of use by the time of Ceasar and Augustus. It originally meant swordsman (gladius = sword), but it came to mean the person who fought in the games, regardless of weapon.
Ring -- we all know what a ring is, but to an ancient roman, the word for ring was anus. Think about that the next time you're ramming home a Michelob bottle. :/
james_biddlestein ยท 139 points ยท Posted at 15:55:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother still uses the term "taping" in reference to recording shows on the DVR.
yesanything ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 16:28:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother still DOES tape her shows (vhs machine), on a CRT television to boot!
Legend017 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 18:18:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean a VCR?
AllAccessAndy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny how few people seem to remember that name. It seems like once DVD players became common, at least younger people started calling them "VHS players" instead.
Legend017 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably because they donโt know what the acronyms VCR and VHS stand for.
AllAccessAndy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:03:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just realized I've gone almost 30 years without knowing what VHS stood for. I knew "videocassette recorder" though.
Legend017 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm pretty sure it was video home system or something close to that.
jaavaaguru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is. I had to look it up though, because in my 37 years on this planet I've never known what it was and didn't care until this discussion. Learning something every day :-)
Tired8281 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could've been a Betamax
mrmdc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean the video cassette recorder?
InsipidCelebrity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you even buy blank VHSes anymore?
O_Apples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Few years ago I saw some at Walmart and Best Buy. I donโt think they are still in stores. Probably on Amazon though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Share it on r/buyitforlife
EgotisticalAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... i could do this
balne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
meh, my house still has a working crt tv. tht we use.
MoreEpicThanYou747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, are you saying you can watch TV on a Melee box?
marlow41 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But can she shield-drop tho?
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of CRT, people still sometimes talk about the "beam" and related terminology like "scanning" "scan rate" etc. when talking about display systems that do no such thing. Too obscure to warrant a top level post IMO, but since you mention CRT...
bizitmap ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:41:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And here's a mom trying to tape Netflix
whimywamwamwozzle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say that and I was barely alive when VHS was a thing
okaymoose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say "tape" and I'm only 22 lol
lejefferson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "record" comes from the french word "to remember" so you're literally using a machine to remember a show. Even the world the french word "recorder" comes from the latin "cor" meaning heart. As in "to take to heart".
All words at their root come from things they weren't originally used for.
GammelGrinebiter ยท 365 points ยท Posted at 15:10:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the flip side: Automobile is slowly becoming a different kind of automatic.
wet-paint ยท 155 points ยท Posted at 16:46:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was never about being automatic, rather automotive.
Pendaelose ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:37:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're still dealing with "auto" meaning self. Like Autobiography or Autoerrotic.
Automotive just means "self moving". It was quite the distinction back when you needed horses to move things for you.
joegekko ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:04:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's only autoerrotic if you do it erryday.
Pendaelose ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:07:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, there are some words I'm glad aren't in my autocorrect.
Purplociraptor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad it's not in my autoerotic either.
leadzor ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:25:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which means it could move by itself without requiring external pulling power, such as horses.
Auto means self. Self evaluation in Portuguese is Autoavaliaรงรฃo for this reason.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Automobile actually, moves by itself.
AllAccessAndy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you think the "motive" part means?
The_Shambler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't question it. It has its own motives.
GiantSizeManThing ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:39:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs two things! Although I suppose โon the flip sideโ is more of an idiom.
Mox_Fox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did that originally refer to?
Emunt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:26:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The other side of a music record.
Purplociraptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See you on the flip side isn't about the Earth rotation? If it's night, then I'll see you on the flip side, i.e. tomorrow morning.
GiantSizeManThing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radio DJโs would say it referring to the B side of a vinyl record.
Protahgonist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still hoping they'll be called 'Autocars' just to fuck with people.
the_weather_man_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AutoBots?
Protahgonist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are the cops of the future.
Terboh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
autoautomobile
the_weather_man_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The new Auto-Automobile - the "Auto-Auto" ... drop a few letters and you get, "AT-AT". I like where this is going.
GillicuttyMcAnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manual transmissions used to be "standard" when automatics came out. Now you have to specify "manual" because if you say standard some people assume an automatic transmission because it is becoming (has been for a while now) the standard equipment.
I wonder if my kids/grandkids will be in the same position with self-driving cars. What we now think of as standard and automatic automobiles, will maybe soon have to be specified as a "manual" car.
Lan777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does "on the flip side" count?
Freevoulous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for the first time ever we actually have real auto-mobiles.
Virge23 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:43:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really hoping that people start calling them autos and not cars. called it a car for so long that we'd forgotten that it was originally shorthand for horseless carriage. Maybe next we could replace the term horsepower with a measurement that actually means something and doesn't fluctuate wildly.
drakeg4 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:59:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower is actually advertised in different measurements depending on your country. The alternatives are Kilowatts and "PS" which is just a weird metric tweak of horsepower that only vaguely relates to the metric system.
AllCheeseEverything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if horsepower fluctuates wildly, but it is advertised different RPMs, is that what you mean?
Vawnn ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:36:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a term but the 3.5 floppy will eternally represent save.
Soukas ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:23:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not that anyone actually does this, but ejecting your usb devices is hardly the appropriate term. It's like we still have floppies or spinning media
ApocryFail ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:15:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do it, u/soukas, I do it.
Soukas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:44:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely, you aren't the hero we deserve but the one we need.
So what type of saddle do you use when mounting drives?
LahDeeDah7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:28:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should ALWAYS properly eject your USBs
[deleted] ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 17:35:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ariadnepyanfar ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 18:42:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid it was a nasty fairy tale creature that lived under a bridge and ocaissionally ate travellers.
Ancguy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:35:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the Billy Goats Gruff
SquirrelHumper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:04:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Volkswagen's https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2643/5733375093_286c8ef0fc_b.jpg
Angry_Sapphic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid, it was the local asshole on a forum.
VANY11A ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid trolling was a technique for fishing. Kind of makes sense. You're fishing for attention.
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid, a troll was looking for something that would attract attention but of no real purpose importance to anyone.
MyFirstOtherAccount ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:56:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought of it as coming from the word "trawl" as in fishing. As in you would be trawling for emotional responses.
royalfarris ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:03:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is the ethymological root of Internet trolling. However, the double meaning of Nasty ugly creature popping its head up all over the place - ended up being to enticing.
Tanduvanwinkle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too
Thelonius16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are correct, except trolling is actually a separate but similar fishing term from trawling.
People used to say they were trolling for newbies or flames or something, meaning hey we're pulling their metaphorical fishing line along and hoping someone would bite (respond).
ThereIsNorWay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:26:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trolling and trawling are actually both fishing terms by different methods. Trawling is with a net, trolling with a baited line. I always assumed that it came from "trolling" for trouble or attention, but then it was convenient that a person doing the act was a "troll" because of it being an ugly unsavory thing to do.
MyFirstOtherAccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK, thanks, I didn't realize that "troll" was a fishing term as well. That definitely makes sense then.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. Ignore the trolling idiots; if you're trolling for fish or if you're on the internet playing juvenile games to elicit impassioned replies, you're "trolling."
random_fucktuation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. It's directly from bridge troll. You can trawl the internet for information. I've actually heard people say they were trolling the internet for information. I think it's a common misconception.
ThereIsNorWay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find it more likely that it's trolling for trouble or a fight and the fact that a "troll" is an ugly unsavory creature is a convenient coincidence. Trolling is dropping a baited line as opposed to trawling with a net. I think I'm right and am trolling for a fight :).
Klaudiapotter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know an older lady who thinks trolling refers to Facebook stalking.
theniceguytroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that's just rude
no_flex ยท 231 points ยท Posted at 15:31:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Punch in and out at work.
IShitOnYourPost ยท 254 points ยท Posted at 15:57:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This still happens.
ephemeral-person ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 16:30:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My workplace had a functional punch clock that I used until a few months ago when we switched to an online timeclock. It's still there, clacking away, I think one employee still uses it.
scroom38 ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 19:15:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My work (4 years ago) used a punch clock so they could shortchange people on hours by rounding.
If you didnt pay attention you lost a few bucks a month.
Speaking of bucks. A buck (deer) skin used to be worth about $1, hence the alternate way of saying dollar.
PedanticPinniped ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:12:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, whatโs the cheapest kind of meat?
Deer balls, theyโre under a buck
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A buck an ear. Must be a pirate.
MotherFuckin-Oedipus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Jeff Bezos is worth 95.5 billion deer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FunkMasterKSilk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My place uses Kronos to clock in or out. We get docked 15 minutes if we're 1 minute late. We don't have to clock in and out for lunch though which I didn't know before now but I am so glad for.
TheBossMan5000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dude, I worked at a place that had one, I loved that thing, it wakes you up in the morning!
Angry_Sapphic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did the noise startle the marbles outta you too (every time), or am I just weird?
dmkicksballs13 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:18:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know people still using punch cards? The fuck?
nrith ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:25:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can still buy punch-card machines at office-supply stores, so I can only assume that means some companies are still using them.
logansowner ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:25:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of mechanic shops do where you use a time punch on individual jobs to show your time on them. Most dealers are computerized but small shops often use cards with many removable stickers.
CyanBlob ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:03:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used one at my previous job not even 6 months ago. It was a software company. I was definitely surprised when I found out that the still used punch cards.
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A punchcard is not a time card. A time card keeps track of hours worked. A punch card (or an IBM card, or Hollerith card if you want to go full retro) contained up to 80 digits of data and were usually a line of code or an element of a file.
Your geek credibility is on pretty shaky ground there!!
rockchurchnavigator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I employ contract workers and temps from time to time. We have a punch clock. Select which in/out function and load the card. It slides in and punches the time in the proper block.
Way easier than trying to setup accounts for every new person or trying to trust their handwriting or "estimated" times.
PrettySureIParty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know you've probably gotten a bunch of responses saying the same thing, but my company still uses punch-cards. Hell, my last job was even more low-tech; the boss just added up our hours in his head.
Disclaimer; before people start telling me I was probably being cheated, I definitely wasn't. I always kept a running tally of my hours, and come payday I was overpaid more often than not.
Ehcksit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My employer uses punch cards.
Decimal-minute 24-hour clock with a lever to punch ink onto a paper time card. I've been trained on changing the ink roll and the time.
dontforgetthelube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in a machine shop. Most of the stuff there (including the owner) was about a century old. The time clock was no exception. Works well enough and it's easy for an old man to wrap his head around.
TheYearOfThe_Rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No we just punch whoever is nearby in their mug.
Warden_Ryker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know people that still work? The fuck?
tavis73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username
IShitOnYourPost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually agree when this is said about me but why on this comment?
tavis73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha well I wasn't being totally serious and more about the parent comment than the post, but he tried to make a point and you pretty much shot it down saying it still happens
Nil_caill_orm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if youโre a boxer.
VPurcell99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worked at a marina two years ago, they still used one, and most likely still do.
R961ROP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally used to be a car that was 'punched' with a mark on entering and exiting
Nutcrackaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We use a thumb print clock at work, guys used to clock each other in and out so they got the thumb print clock..
Now they just show up in the morning leave at lunch and come back to clock out at 5pm.
yepthatguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially at the USPS.
Vivaldaim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the idea is youโre not โpunchingโ anymore, but entering digits.
SirDooble ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:26:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At my work we have a digital machine, and our phrase is to 'clock in/out'. I like that, but I dislike that we call the machine the 'clocking in machine'. It deserves a better name, not just a description of what it does.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a boxing gym tho...
Greflingorax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, but I feel like it's more turning into "clock in/out" these days
Shaomoki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My company makes me punch in and out still, and I'm salaried.
Newfangled machine uses fingerprints
shadowgattler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used punch cards 2 years ago. Im sure they'll still be around
TamLux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or clocking in and clocking out if you feel posh
StardustOasis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still used for temporary workers.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve had two jobs where I had to punch in and out, but the younger ones called it โloggingโ in. But on that note, signing in came from literal signing your name as present in the building as opposed to using an email and password.
mrdude05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People definitely still use punch cards
timthetollman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, digital system here we say clock in/out.
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah this one's still around.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think some companies still have a time clock. At the company that I retired from we didn't punch in and out. All we had to do was sign in on a sheet of paper. When so many people took advantage of it then the company went with the card and slider method.
araxhiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mornin' Sam."
punches in
"Mornin' Ralph."
punches in
Andernerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did that at my second student job 5 years go.
Callilunasa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still clock in / pinch in at our place but it has a printer in now rather than punching holes.
Looneytuni888 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 17:04:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HOLD THE PHONE
StardustOasis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:07:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure phones still have a hold function.
Looneytuni888 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:38 on December 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother said the saying came from cord phones hooked to the wall and needing someone to physically hold the phone until they can get to it-- cord phones are rare at homes now, most are used in work settings. Nonetheless, I shall continue to use this outdated saying with great enthusiasm :) :)
Timeworm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now give the phone to me
HintOfAreola ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:24:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"By the way," was used to tell travelers where they could find food, shelter, or other points of interest along their journey.
Makes sarcastic sentences like, "By the way, you're an asshole," even funnier.
evhan55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why do we use this phrase the way we do now?
HintOfAreola ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same reason sailors love their rum and diesels love their oil.
Nobody knows.
likeytho ยท 195 points ยท Posted at 15:33:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve heard people say โbuzz me inโ for newer buildings with only a click or light to show the door unlock
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 251 points ยท Posted at 15:47:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The buzzing mechanism is still really common in a lot of places though.
Tearakan ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:49:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep been there at both of my places I've lived at in Chicago.
jaime-the-lion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Places I've lived at" proper Chitown syntax right here
Tearakan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:17:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, english isn't my strong suit more math and science.
jaime-the-lion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep saying it that way; you'll fit in! Source: from Chicago
MazeMouse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the same time a lot of places where you nowadays hear a buzz it's a fake sound to give people the audio-cue that something is unlocked.
simple1689 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it ain't broke...
Seanrps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
every apartment building i have ever entered uses a buzz,it is great
DennisNedrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had one on my apartment building in the suburbs.
ColinHalter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have one and sometimes I trigger it as my neighbors are leaving to spook them.
shortyman93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Such as the building I live in. It's still a buzzer that unlocks the door.
ebbomega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Built right into the door strike in most cases.
Lamar_Scrodum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a buzzing thing on my door and I still wish it was more common. I can never hear the door unlocking on these new fancy shmance buildings.
leadzor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The front door of my apartment block still buzzes when you open the door, it's not an old building either.
Sidney_Stratton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hate it when these "concierges" have a silent door unlock without any visual cue. Noisy environment - don't hear the subtle 'click'. Pulling the door does not always release when unlock activates.
ebbomega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if you pull too early it won't unlock. Door strikes need to have no pressure on them in order to unlatch, so if you're pulling on the door while you get buzzed, the door won't actually open.
Patjay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still say "clock-in"/"clock-out" even though all done on computers now
EnergyIsQuantized ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
buzz me mulatto
FiggyDiggz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the buzzer is only an alert for the person looking to go through so they know the lock has disengaged. A light or a click is essentially the same thing so wouldn't the phrase still be appropriate? I still say my phone is ringing even though it's playing the music from the Witcher 3 rather than a bell sound.
firewall245 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 16:56:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One thing many people probably don't realize are relics of the past are the shift key and carriage return on keyboards from typewriters
MachReverb ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 17:56:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can also spot people that learned to type on a typewriter when they send you double-spaced Word documents.
EDIT: I guess it's a little too old to be obvious (which is actually pretty appropriate for this thread), but different from the traditional academic use, "double spacing" when used as typing term used to refer to adding an extra space at the end of each sentence.
Copied from below so I don't have to type it again:
"Not line spacing, two spaces after punctuation marks. The blank space on a typewriter was about half the width of the characters, so you would have to push the space bar twice to make the spacing between sentences look correct. Software has made this unnecessary, but people that learned on typewriters tend to still do it that way."
hawksgirl4life ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 18:24:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned to type on a computer and was still taught this in the early 2000s, although I now follow the accepted one space rule. I work in an office with a lot of people who are my parents' age or older though, and most of them still do it.
Millerboycls09 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:59:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because teachers were people who learned to type on typewriters. I was also taught this as a child in the early 2000s
hawksgirl4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, that makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned to type on a manual typewriter.
GothWitchOfBrooklyn ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:47:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned to type on a pc and i was taught to double space.
However the first time i had to type an essay to hand in i didn't realize that double spaced meant lines. I turned on the character visibility mode and manually counted 2 spaces between each word lol. My teacher cracked up at me when he realized what i'd done. In my defense I was 11 and it was like, 1998
HeirOfHouseReyne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? No Shittymorph?
AlmanzoWilder ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:09:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh heh. I do. Except, on Facebook, it corrects them to single space. Very annoying. I'll format the way I like, Facebook!
NSA_Chatbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Double-spacing makes it much easier to insert emoticons.
canniballibrarian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why that's a thing? I had teachers through high school who demanded that and i thought it was the most ridiculous thing on the planet.
Wierd657 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned on a computer and I was always told by my mom, teachers, and IIRC formatting rules that suggest a double space after a period at the end of a sentence.
And another thing... most virtual keyboards (onscreen/smartphone) insert a period and a space when the space bar is double tapped.
DrumBxyThing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why APA format is double spaced? Cause it dates back to typewriters?
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or they just type with the spacing on "double" at all times. I do this pretty consistently. Makes it easier to read.
Mezmorizor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Double spacing is definitely a thing taught in the 2000s. I don't think my English teachers ever actually checked, but not double spacing was definitely considered improper formatting.
And yes, I mean two spaces after a full stop.
clubby37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned to type on a computer. I have always put two spaces at the end of sentences because it makes the text easier to read. I'm not convinced that typewriters are the source of this convention, but even if they are, the practice still serves a purpose today.
Also, when I learned to type, on a computer, all those years ago "double-space" did not refer to the two spaces after a period, but to leaving blank lines in between each typed line. This is the first time I've ever seen "double-space" (in the context of typing) used to describe horizontal space.
nyrol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was always taught in school to add two spaces after a period when using MS Word and such.
wildhotdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still push the space bar twice. I had no idea....
Indenting paragraphs: We also had to do the 2 (or 3?) finger rule for starting a new written paragraph. Now I just hit the space bar 5 times, because that's what we did on a typewriter. I'm probably doing that wrong too huh? I noticed it'll automatically try to do this for me when I'm starting a new paragraph. But oh no, I'm back spacing to the beginning of the line to MAKE SURE there are 5 space bars. I don't trust "shift" or whatever button it is I'm pushing to indent my paragraph damn it.
xAmerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My god... I always wondered why my mom (60 yo) always double spaced her documents. TIL!
Tired8281 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't buy it. Double space inserts a period in Android and iOS autocorrect. There was a large bit of time for doublespace to die off between the intro of the word processor, the death of the typewriter, and the intro of the smartphone.
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. I've never used a typewriter but I used to write all my papers in double space. Easier to grade with space between the lines, I guess.
MachReverb ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:06:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not line spacing, two spaces after punctuation marks. The blank space on a typewriter was about half the width of the characters, so you would have to push the space bar twice to make the spacing between sentences look correct. Software has made this unnecessary, but people that learned on typewriters tend to still do it that way.
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:17:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gotcha. I always wondered why my mother did that, TIL.
Emtreidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guilty! And yes, people have noticed. Canโt seem to stop, though.
ScifiGirl1986 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:52:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also type really loudly because they're still thinking that they need to press really hard on the key for the letter to register.
Mezmorizor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not why. Using more pressure makes it easier to move quickly without being floaty. eg I was taught to jam the hell out of my saxophone keys whenever I play. Part of that is that extra pressure can stop micro leaks, but it's mostly because it makes your technique less sloppy.
The_MAZZTer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PCs use unprintable characters to represent carriage return and line feed. On Windows, BOTH these characters must be used in the proper sequence to represent a new line, just like on a typewriter. IIRC Linux just uses line feed and Mac just uses carriage return.
jrhoffa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OS X is *nix-like so it uses LF. Older Mac OSes used CR.
The_MAZZTer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yeah, I am probably thinking of old Macs, thanks.
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that they still have use. They "shift" what the key does. For example it "shifts" from small letters to capital letters. Or from a 7 to an ampersand. So you could still make a case for it being a shift key.
ThetaReactor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still serves the same end purpose, yes. But it's not physically moving an element inside the keyboard any more.
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but shift still has the meaning to transform or change, which is what my point is. So it "shifts" what that key does.
pomegranate_rose ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 19:24:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cc on emails. Originally, it was for carbon copy.
DaedalusRaistlin ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:25:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That and basically everything else about email. It's based on the Post Office Protocol, and a lot of terminology is from classic ways of sending and receiving mail.
FaxCelestis ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:21:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
..is that what the POP in POP3 stands for?
KZedUK ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:48:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:00:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dogbin005 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:45:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a printing shop, they are actually called carbonless books now.
Angry_Sapphic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God I hated making real carbon copies. I'd always accidentally move the top paper a little, leaving a huge smear of black across the bottom paper.
try_____another ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs a double one because when the RFC was written the meaning was a backronym from the abbreviation cc, meaning multiple copies not necessarily carbon copies, in the same way that you might use pp to mean pages.
OzNTM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was there ever an actual blind carbon copy? Or is that just an email term?
parkaprep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wikipedia said they would actually pull the ribbon away from the typewritter when typing the name of the second, unknown recipient. It would not leave ink on the top copy, but the impression would be made on ones touched by the carbon paper.
KeevanGoliath ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:22:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom always says "I passed you a note" referring to text messages or emails. I think it's fucking precious.
melance ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 15:40:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Channels on YouTube
OggiBenDoggy ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 20:20:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the โtubeโ part of YouTube referring to a television cathode ray tube. I just realized... people used to call TV the โboob tubeโ which sounds like YouTube. Of course the term โboobโ here was not a breast, but a buffoonish person. So you can see a bunch of โboobsโ on YouTube. Think Keemstar.
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The meaning definitely shifted to meaning breasts for channels that showed soft core porn like Cinemax at like 3 AM
Theungry ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:40:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This hasn't lost it's core relevance. If anything, it's more apropos now than it was for TV/Radio.
Mazer_Rac ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:59:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that a channel refers to the portion of airwave that was designated for that station to broadcast on.
iluvstephenhawking ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:36:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a good one.
KarenK13 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 16:09:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telegraphing a pass in basketball
OSCgal ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 16:27:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Telegraphing" in general: IIRC it's used in a lot of sports.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:41:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And video games as well which is even stranger.
itsamamaluigi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:35:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard it used in a video game context. Does it have roughly the same definition as the sports use? That is, "revealing your ultimate strategy through the actions leading up to it"?
Chieron ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:41:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely. If a boss flashes before a certain attack, he's "telegraphing" that attack.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes if a boss has a slow windup to a powerful attack such as loud sound for a second before firing a huge laser beam. People when discussing how to defeat said boss would say to get behind cover when the boss starts to telegraph his attack by making that sound. So basically yeah.
FadedMaster1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another example I've run into more commonly with video games is using telegraph to refer to the colored marking on the ground in most games like MMOs.
kurokoshika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - and definitely apparent in, say, MOBAs like League or DotA if youโre familiar with. Player characters can have windup animations or need to position in a certain way to pull off moves that can make obvious what their next step is, e.g. Fiddlesticks is sighted standing in the
wraithraptor camp two feet from your team with his team nearby, and very probably is going to come ulting over the wall.anarchyisutopia ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:10:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is one that I think gets better the farther we move from the technology. I mean, if they could see it coming by way of telegraph instead of fax or email, then that pass was SUPER slow.
ThePortalsOfFrenzy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telegraphing a pass doesn't mean it was slow. It means that the defender knew the pass was coming because the passer inadvertently "tipped him off" which allowed him to anticipate the pass. In other words, there was a message from the passer (e.g. body language or a predictive tendency) that the defender noticed.
anarchyisutopia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I worded that wrong. I should've said super obvious.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boxing: When they see that punch coming a mile off. :)
PM_ME_YOUR_BIG_LOAD ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:31:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, last I checked, a mile is still a long distance on the scale of an unaided human
AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um ... okayyy?
TheRationalDove ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 16:07:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While it hasn't completely lost its relevance, the word "computer" technically refers to any device that aids in calculations. An abacus, for example, can be considered a type of computer. Originally, computers were created as a way to reduce time spent doing large amounts of number-crunching. (In fact, people whose job was to do tedious number crunching were called computers.) Nowadays, computers do way more than just computations.
EDIT: Clarification- Yes. I am aware that modern computers are still at their core computational devices. However, most people think of computers as communication devices, gaming devices, vectors for the Internet, ect. first before they think of them as, well, computers. Of course all of those things exist thanks to number crunching.
EDIT: Grammar and word choice. Removed redundancies.
mop-92 ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 16:32:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
at a basic level they are still just doing binary calculations
BurritoBooster ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:23:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try to think of the most complex computer program. Now imagine the mass of math in this mess. And now imagine only beeing capable of adding, substracting and maybe multiply. That's how much the ALU in the CPU in your computer can do. If you get deep into the matter you really start to understand how far computers have come. Jeeze I had to learn assembler in highschool, it scared me away from computer sience. lol
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:07:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's even worse than that. Those ALUs, made up of adders and subtractors, are made up of CMOS. All of the logic in a computer is made up of these guys organized in a novel fashion to enable all of it. Just small electric switches, nanometers small, turning on and off.
BurritoBooster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:12:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, a few hundred electrons can make your server farm shutdown. So powerful and so sensitive.
MikeTheInfidel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:24:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God forbid a stray cosmic ray should hit your RAM.
bromanceisdead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
by basic do you mean the coding language or on a fundamental level?
Arumai12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My binary abacus has a lot of rows
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily
JustSomeGuy556 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:08:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an old dictionary that defines computer as "one who computes".
naufalap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I AM THE COMPUTER
phenorbital ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You jest, but the first ones during the world wars were women not sent to fight.
MightyRoops ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:29:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It even referred to persons. Someone who did calculations for a company had the job title computer.
samwritessometimes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This confused me a little cause that's the main characters job title in Hidden Figures and they have an actual computer. But yeah both were right at one point.
ninbushido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, because technology computers were still a new thing the time in Hidden Figures people had to figure out, so number crunching was still done by hand. Love that movie!
papercranium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you enjoyed the movie, definitely check out the book! There's a ton of amazing history that never made it into the film.
Tar_alcaran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you had really complex maths to do, you'd hire a chief computer to split you maths up into smaller chunks to hand out to a room of computers, and later combine it.
[deleted] ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 16:48:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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0x564A00 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:56:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interpretting conditional jumps, pops, moves, io instructions and so on as only calculating formulas, which is quite a stretch, although an argument could be made for that.
Alaskan_Thunder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:02:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its just a bunch of ANDs, ORs, and NOTs.
brickmaster32000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except they don't really compute formulas. If you are going to be picky at the base level they aren't calculating anything. At most, you can say conditional statements are being evaluated.
KoolaidPhobic ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:44:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Nope."
Ah, the classic response of the "so-desperate-to-be-correct-that-they-lose-sight-of-the-point" Redditor.
Sometimes, you don't need to go out of your way to be technically correct. You, me, and /u/TheRationalDove all know that, at their most basic level, computers are just doing vast amounts of calculations. But that doesn't mean /u/TheRationalDove was incorrect when they said computers "do more than just computations".
In the past, computers were mostly used only to do calculations. Had a big problem that needed working out while you do something else? Have the computer whirr and click for a while until it punches out a result.
Nowadays, they're used for so much more. Entertainment, design, education... you name it. Computers are at the core of modern society. Yes, these functions are, at their core, are all controlled by mathematical computations. No one's arguing that. But you're so concerned with being right on an internet forum that you jump the gun and take everything literally. Might be a sign of lacking social skills.
ThePaSch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:18:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the classic response of the "so-full-of-themselves-that-they-have-to-act-like-they're-above-everyone" redditor.
Adding a completely pointless ad hominem to an already completely pointless comment (because a non-inflammatory comment pointing this out already existed at that time) in order to make some kind of misguided point or seem like you're above it all. Yeah! Look at those sheeple, only caring about being right on the internet! Naturally, I would never fall to such kinds of banality - no, since I only care about looking smart on the internet!
You're so concerned with acting superior on an internet forum that you kick someone who's already down just in order to get a shitty sermon over internet behaviors in. Might be a sign of lacking self-confidence.
AflexPredator ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:31:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatโs a computer?
The_Goondocks ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:44:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An iPad IS a computer, you little shit!
Vaulter1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:24:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm normally ambivalent to their fuzzy feeling advertising but damn if that ad doesn't piss me off.
kalmakka ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:13:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in the days, most computers were female.
csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hidden Figures probably introduced a lot of people to the concept of a computer as a profession.
firelock_ny ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:16:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember some 1930's science fiction (the Lensmen series) where the bad guy attempted to seize control of the computers on the heroes' spaceship - and by that, meant that they were using a hypnosis ray to control the minds of the people who were doing the calculations to steer the ship.
making-flippy-floppy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "computer" itself is actually an example of this. It used to refer to a human job (running numbers through calculations for things like weapon firing tables). Since this is one of the first jobs electronic computers were used to perform, they inherited the name.
TheRationalDove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed! I'd hate to have that job, but human compiters had impressive math skills and patience.
poduszkowiec ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:53:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean way more? Truth is they only do calculations. :P
leadzor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch the movie Hidden Figures to see this. In the 60's, NASA had a computer division which consisted in black ladies doing number crunching.
papercranium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also had white ladies doing number crunching. They just worked on the other side of campus.
leadzor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah. The segregation era.
simple1689 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computers still perform millions of calculations a second. You may not use the calculator function, but there are serious algorithms on your CPU and GPU
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Computer" has been more of a job description throughout the majority of the history of the word. A computer is someone who calculates, and well into the 1900s this usually meant a girl with a spreadsheet doing the work of Excel
ShikiRyumaho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The German word for computer is Rechner, meaning calculator and your calculator ist our "pocket calculator".
einTier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Cranking out the answers" and other similar phrases actually refer to a very specific type of calculator that resembled a pepper grinder.
eqvchris ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:50:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broken record.
OlafForkbeard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broken record.
LeeColi16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:55 on January 3, 2018 ยท (Permalink)
Broken re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-reโฆ
SerKevanLannister ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:28:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AS A MEDIEVALIST I FEEL LIKE IโVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS QUESTION FOR YEARS! OMG I AM SO EXCITED. WE STILL USE MANY TERMS AND PHRASES FROM MEDIEVAL FALCONRY. EVERYONE KNOWS THE TERMS BUT NOT THE 800-900 year old origins in falconry terminology. Sorry for yelling; I am just very excited. Yes I am a total dork.
Some of the terms and phrases we use now that are from falconry are listed below. I think everyone will know the modern meaning. The cool part is discovering that it comes from medieval falconry (and honestly Iโve always been amazed by just how many of these terms have survived into modern English โ Shakespeare used a lot of these terms, and I have no doubt that has something to do with it). I wonโt list all of the original meanings here but I will link to some great pages that list terms and phrases that are still in use.
Iโll link to a few websites that discuss medieval falconry after this list:
โFed-upโ (one gets better results with a hungry raptor not a full one)
โwrapped around my fingerโ (his, her, your finger etc) (falconers held their falcons in check by wrapping their leather leg straps around their finger โ see also โunder my thumbโ)
โwith bated breathโ
hoodwinked
codger (โcodgerโ was a term for aging birds that were kept in their cages/eyries and socialized younger birds โ the birdโs an old cager (codger)โ
to check (as in โto hold in checkโ)
to wind up (Technique used to encircle a training hawk and hold it in place by winding a leather strap around the legs)
to weather
bare-faced
lure
pounce
rouse
to turn tail
haggard
preen
having someone or something โunder thumbโ or โunder my thumbโ (the falcon was controlled by a leather strap that the falconer pressed down with his thumb until release)
โhaving bells onโ (bells were put on the falcon to keep track of its location). We use this phrase in expressions like โIโll be there with bells on.โ
Websites:
Wikipedia has a great page with some very cool manuscript illustrations and a short list of terms still used: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falconry
Short list of certain terms still used in modern English: https://listverse.com/2012/06/09/10-words-of-phrases-derived-from-falconry/
Overall history of falconry: http://wingmasters.net/falconry_history.htm
rarrimali0n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're my favorite redditor today
radio934texas ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:46:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean skeuomorphs?
mishasyeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:50 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skeuomorphos don't have to be references to dead or historical items, just to physical items to help make digital interfaces more welcoming. Many qualify for this thread, but not all.
RobAlter ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:55:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freelance - which means a mercenary/solider who uses a lance to kill. A free lance is available to kill for you. A lance is a pole weapon or spear. So if you are a freelance you are a solider who is not currently with any army and is available for hire.
neihuffda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:08:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good bog, finally a unique reply, and it's something I didn't know to boot! Thanks!
CaptBlondBeard ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 16:52:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Grandma says "light" the oven.
zerbey ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:15:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perfectly valid if she has a gas oven. I still say it too and I've not owned a gas oven in my entire adult life. My Mum does, and I learned to cook on it. Some habits are impossible to break :)
CaptBlondBeard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:39:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just noticed it a few weeks ago and asked her about it. She had a gas oven when she was younger and never got out of the habit when she got a new oven. It's little pieces of history like that, that I want to know about. :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I lived in Montana I cooked on a wood burning stove. It's not bad once you get the hang of it.
CuvisTheConqueror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most modern gas ovens have electric starters, and don't need to be manually lit.
TheKMethod ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:46:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're still lighting a flame.
CuvisTheConqueror ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:48:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. It just strikes me as kind of weird; I mostly had gas stoves growing up, and never really thought of "lighting" them so much as turning them on. Unless, of course, the starter was bad and I had to get the fireplace matches out.
TheKMethod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also just realized that the only times I've said "Light the stove" was when I had to use a lighter for a camp stove whenever I'm cooking at camp.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The oven that used to be in this house (was my family house) was gas and the pilot light had to be lit with a match. I used to love it when my mom would open the oven on cold mornings to warm up the kitchen. The house still has gas but only for the range top. The oven is one of those convention ovens. I hate it.
HorsemanOfWar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about ovens anymore, but I know that at the highschool I took cooking classes in the stove tops are gas (granted not lit by a lighter)
TitanJS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant for barbeques though.
MgFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We also "turn off" the lights, even though we're not turning anything. I know there were switches that turned once, but I'm going to guess the term was in use when most home lighting was done with oil lamps and you "turned up" the wick (actually raising the wick) to make it brighter and "turned it down" to make it dimmer. Gas lighting would have had turning valves to do the same thing.
spazmatazffs ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 16:23:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Return some video-tapes" in regard to having a hooker sex/murder party. Now it's "Netflix and kill" or whatever.
Im_Lucifer_Not_Evil ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 16:46:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man your parties sound awesome
ElBiscuit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, maybe for half the people in attendance, anyway.
talktomeg00se1986 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 18:16:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you like Huey Lewis and the News?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its hip to fuck bees
Jackamatack ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:15:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you like jazz?
iluvstephenhawking ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:40:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have to go to Dorcia tonight. Great sea urchin ceviche.
BasicallyBelle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:04:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try getting a reservation at Dorsia now, YOU FUCKING STUPID BASTARD
anormalgeek ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:10:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you watch the Patty Winters show this morning? It was about a new sport called Dwarf Tossing.
MY-HARD-BOILED-EGGS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Hamilton. Have a holly jolly Christmas.
jackalope_breath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are my hero.
thepurplemermaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you done with the chainsaw I lent you yet?
rudownwiththeop ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:15:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haywire... or Hay wire. "Things are all haywire, The Doctor said, while beating on the Tardis." Meant to mean screwed up. Originally hay wire, or bailing wire, was used often to put things back together, like your tractor, or your muffler. Like Duct Tape now, hay wire, is a term for "wow that things held together with a lot of hay wire, must be not in the greatest of shape."
Also, Block Buster, was a bomb that was capable of blowing up an entire city block. Then it was a Hollywood Movie that was popular.... then a video rental store that was popular... then not popular... and now it means, I guess a big Hollywood Movie again.
Personally I like the original meaning the best.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:19:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Hammand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in the National Guard and activated to big army, I got in an argument with a civilian contractor who insisted that I needed a new bank account despite mine having worked with the payroll system that big army shares with the guard. Eventually she rolled her eyes and said "you're not with the guard right now, and when in Rome..." I asked her if she knew the original meaning of decimation and it's use in the Roman army.
idreamofweenie_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:34:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using the term "click" when talking about smartphones. Like saying click on the download icon, even if it's a touch screen
micromoses ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:51:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mixtape" has been given a weird new meaning lately.
Muffin278 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:43:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I first heard about this it was a rapper I listened to who was releasing a mix tape and everyone was super excited. I thought he was making a compilation of songs he likes and was wondering what the hype was about.
mrmdc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:48:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How so?
The word tape is irrelevant, but the mix part is still perfectly acceptable.
romafa ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 16:36:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-gate. I'm sure a majority of people don't even know where it originated. It just means scandal to them.
TitanJS ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:13:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean wasn't it originally related to the Watergate scandal.
MightyRoops ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 17:35:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean Watergategate?
ShikiRyumaho ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:10:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related!?
etihw_retsim ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:21:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think we all know it originated with watergate-gate.
Martbell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if there was a scandal about water?
romafa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:36:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like Flint, MI?
HeirOfHouseReyne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aquagate?
clocksailor ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:31:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also -palooza. I hear -palooza applied to so many mundane things.
TheFire_Eagle ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:53:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And "stock."
Woodstock is a place. But I've seen local festivals just add "stock" to the end of whatever inconsequential thing they do.
BinaryPi ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:20:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woodstock wasn't even in Woodstock.
alanwpeterson ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:05:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But waynestock was a killer show!
ebbomega ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:59:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be sure to cross your Ts and dot your.... lower-case Js....
beau9292 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:54:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah they had Aerosmith, Pearl Jam, Van Halen, an old man fashioning a kayak from a log, and Rip Taylor!
MattieShoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reddit-palooza-stock-gate?
clocksailor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On steroids!
l3ahamut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Delaware's annual festival opted out of the -stock treatment. They just went with Firefly.
CultureVulture629 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:05:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate this. Come up with something original for your scandal name, please. It's even worse than 'naming' a terrorist attack after the date it happened on.
wannabe_fi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gategate
Jambronius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:06:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is funny as hell, but it's more commonly remembered as the plebgate scandal.
R961ROP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs a conspiracy intended to flood the people with references to watergate so that political scandals hold less weight. The politicians can get away with more and the people care less because the next '-gate' is happening the very next day. People are calling it Watergategate.
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god. This shit drives me fucking insane.
No, there wasn't a bunch of misogynists staying at the GAMERGATE hotel.
And Tom Brady didn't keep his footballs at the INFLATEGATE.
Magnivore703 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 16:43:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vsauce had a very interesting video on this (they're called misnomers).
(Sort of a plug but I'm not affiliated with them in any way so I'm more just pointing it out)
MHG73 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:56:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Misnomers are not always created in this way. For example, Greenland is very icy and Iceland is very green, because the people who named them wanted people to go to Greenland and not Iceland. The names were never accurate.
SirTreeTreeington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We all have watched the Mighty Ducks 2
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny enough, that misnomer is mentioned in the video.
CongrationYouDoneIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think a more accurate term would be "survivals"
Lan777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And here I was thinking the bell in Elizabeth's Tower was called Elizabeth's Bell-End
timberlanes1972 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:20:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of maritime terms like "steamship" or "steam ahead" or "sailing" referring to vessels that are not steam/wind powered anymore.
sonomabob1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:47:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dial a phone number"
knuckles523 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:00:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maverick
A rancher in the early days of cattle drives by the name of Maverick refused to brand his cattle so he could claim any unbranded cattle as his. Any cattle not belonging to a specific herd started being called mavericks. Eventually the term jumped to people who refused to be associated with a group.
deuceice ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:53:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SOOOOO... How long until this is some 30 page Buzzed thingy on Facebook?
zerozingzing ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 16:51:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(in music) a MIXED TAPE used to be a cassette tape that a musician would use to showcase their work in hopes of getting signed to a label.
the term still lingers today
MrCrash ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:26:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still make mix tapes for girls I'm dating.
now it becomes like a fun little mission. they have this object that contains data they want, and they have to go hunt out a place where they can retrieve that data.
WWANormalPersonD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:17:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awesome.
paranoid_70 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:06:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the 80s, I always referred to a mix tape as a cassette you would make (often for a friend or a girlfriend) by recording a mix of different songs from different album and bands. It used to take over an hour to make.
The tape a musician would make of their band was simply called a demo.
stone_henge ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:38:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A mixtape has been a bunch of music you copied from different sources for at least as long as compact cassettes existed. You're talking about a demo tape. Maybe in hip-hop there is some degree of ambiguity here.
DamienWayneIsABitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is, for some reason.
DamienWayneIsABitch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:44:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. That's entirely wrong. A mixtape is a tape featuring multiple, or a mix of artists. For some godforsaken reason it's been repurposed to refer to what you described, which is a demo tape.
zerozingzing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:54 on December 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting enough, we are both correct depending on where you are from and age range. My mind was more angled towards the use of the word TAPE, as in a cassette. Music artist in 2017 do not use cassettes anymore to put out music.
DamienWayneIsABitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:46 on December 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The cassette tapes I just bought from two localish indie bands, one of whom is blowing up and getting attention everywhere from celebrities to NP-fucking-R, Charly Bliss, would disagree.
SassyMoron ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:47:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or demo tape
wildhotdog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:33:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember the time and anticipation that went into making a mixed cassette tape in the 80's.
Sitting there, with your fingers on the record button (wasn't it record and play buttons at once?) so you could hit it the second the song you wanted came on the radio. Sometimes you thought it was the song you wanted and pushed record. But nooooo, then you fucked up, and had to rewind the damn thing to the end of your last song you had, to erase and record the song you wanted.
Very tedious work. It meant a lot to give someone a tape like that. I'd also peel the white sticker off the paper, where I had neatly printed each song, in order, that was on the A and B side of the cassette, and carefully place it on the cassette.
khendron ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:10:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slideshow
gutterpeach ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:51:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am so thankful that we no longer have to sit through an hour of someone elseโs vacation slides at family gatherings.
CoyoteDown ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:51:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now we have to watch someoneโs stupid PowerPoint
wildhotdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now we have to sit there while they swipe through each picture on their phone. At least with a slide show you could space out.
But when someone's sitting there beside you swiping through all those vacation pictures on their phone, you have to look and seem interested. If not, somehow they'll make a post about #rudepeople on FB who don't like looking at your 200+ pictures.
I actually have started printing out all the pictures I take and put them in photo albums. It's such a different experience looking at pictures that way. I love laying in bed and flipping through all the old pictures of family. Especially the super old pictures that have survived and handed down to me. You can't get that feeling from swiping through the pics on a phone or computer.
gutterpeach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:11 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer printed photos, too. Itโs nice to sit back and relax while flipping through pages of memories. I hate swiping through stuff on other peopleโs phones. I donโt want to hold your phone!
DubEnder ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:43:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The concept of 'bookmarking' webpages.
plazman30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a Netscape thing. Microsoft IE called them favorites.
madasser03 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:47:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of a niche one but, some physicians still request radiologists to do a "wet read". Referring back to when there was still film that needed to develop in a Radiology department. Essentially the requesting physician is asking for a STAT read, but the old timers still call it a wet read from time to time.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Car-face ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mind if I ask - where does STAT come from? I hear it on medical shows all the time ("I need 10cc's of xenoephonephodorclahydrazine, Stat!")
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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lfantine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nil per os, the motto of anorexic society.
Car-face ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, TIL. Thanks!
wildhotdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:24 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your welcome :)
slowsuby ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:45:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but we still use the motion of using a hand crank to roll the window down when we want someone to roll their window down in their car.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:34:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll down the window" or "crank the engine"
Donna_Freaking_Noble ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:57:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is kind of funny that we still go to the "movies" even though we actually started going to the "talkies" a long time ago.
thejeffroc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:23:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife still uses the phrase "I'll just MapQuest it" even though she's using Google Maps on her phone. I stopped correcting her a couple of years ago. (I'm aware MapQuest is still used, I just don't know anyone that has in at least 10 years)
BrentOGara ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the first things I did at my new job (2 months ago) was upgrade the company website "driving directions" page from MapQuest to Google!
SirSwede ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 16:56:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally.
Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:10:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ha very funny
kristhebrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Literally" literally does not mean literally anymore
arquebus_x ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It hasnโt for centuries.
rewind2482 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:23:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Really."
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:19:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have it on "film", or video "footage".
tres_chill ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:13:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn the channel
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:49:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That the save icon on computers is usually a floppy disk.
Nora_Oie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:44:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment. Trunk.
Moon-owl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment..boot...parcel shelf..
nyrangers30 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:02:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movie trailers no longer trail movies.
Awit1992 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:18:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but an image. The save icon is still a floppy disc. How many middle schoolers just think it's an obscure image that means "save?"
xcarex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true of a lot of icons! Like, the camera and phone apps have icons with outdated tech.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:17:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To "debug" your software goes back to when computers had vacuum tube transistors. These got quite warm when operating, which attracted bugs. You would literally have to sweep out the dead bugs every once in a while.
VanCanFan75 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:49:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tennis scoring with "love". The score 40 - 0 (said "40 love") is love because a score of zero, or a "goose egg" in French is "eouf" pronounced <<uff>> which over time took on the less harsh, more pleasant sounding "love"
Similar to pilots yelling "mayday". Story goes it was because in French, "help me!" is "m'aide", pronounced "may dee" and between radio static and a panicked pilot, over time i guess it became mayday.
IWasOnceATraveler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just one thing, ยซย mโaidรฉย ยป should have an accent on the "e," because otherwise itโs pronounced ยซย maidย ยป not ยซย mayday.ย ยป
VanCanFan75 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:02:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good call...... see what i did there?
๐๏ธ Allen_MacGyverson ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 15:37:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Electric cars don't have "ignition" mechanisms.
Jettrode ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:57:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You also can't "give it some gas" with an electric car.
TheKMethod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Goose the throttle"
TheKMethod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Goose the throttle"
markymarksjewfro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The funny part is that it isn't really even a throttle.
TheKMethod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goose the rheostat.
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goose the rotary encoder.
flaflashr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neighbors met us at a restaurant for dinner. Started to rain just as we arrived. I ran back to close the sunroof -- had to turn ignition switch (on my gas-powered car) to on position to do so.
Came out to a dead battery. Asked neighbors if they could give me a jump start. However, they had a Prius, which as far as I could tell did not have any 12 volt connectors to jump me.
rnelsonee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:45:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or gas pedals, but I will feel a little weird calling my upcoming EV's pedal the accelerator. I'll probably still say "turn up the volume" as well, despite the fact it's all touchscreen.
Havoksixteen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:34:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in the UK most of us call it the acceleration pedal anyway, no one I know calls it the "gas"
KZedUK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of driving instructors do, but that's mainly because it's easier to shout when the twit you're teaching has stopped in the middle of a roundabout.
TwatsThat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well in the UK they also don't fill cars with gas, they use petrol.
KZedUK ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:46:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
aye we do but that doesn't make it the petrol pedal
TwatsThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:24 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It should be though because when naming things alliteration is always the answer.
jfb1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My driving instructor called it that
Unlnvited ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guesd you can call it the "potentiometer pedal" if you want to have a replacement for "gas pedal".
ZappySnap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife drives a Nissan Leaf, and when I drive it, I try to not refer to it as a gas pedal if something regarding it comes up.
ReallyHadToFixThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We say "turn it on/off" too, I don't think that was ever a dial to start with.
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My car had a rotary key switch. My old car has a rotary key switch and a pull knob to activate the starter motor.
GALACTIC-SAUSAGE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the remix to ignition
Hot and fresh out the kitchen
LukeSkywhopper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mama rollin' that body Got every man in here wishin'
Emorio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not with that attitude, they don't.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TitanJS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he means like in an EV there is no spark to ignite fuel in the piston.
eloderung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My EV has a physical key. It's ironic because it was probably more expensive to create than a push button start.
Olly0206 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More and more cars now days are moving away from actual keys that you'd insert into an ignition to "turn" on. Even many that you do don't actually turn an ignition. Many are just for show. It'll still be a long time before "turn" becomes an outdated use of the word when starting a car but it's already moving that way.
On a similar note, there are more more cars that are moving to a belt driven transmission so the car doesn't actually "shift gears" anymore. Some manufacturers (I know Chrysler did this) even fake shift points because people were so unnerved by the fact that their car didn't shift. They thought something was broken.
yesanything ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 16:26:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
slightly off topic, but virtually 99.9999 % of all vehicles are electric.
Most have combustion engines, but the are all electric.
poduszkowiec ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:51:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have electric components, but the drive is not electric. That being said, most of the engines in the world are electric. Fuel engines are practically only used in transport, most other machines use electric or hydraulic.
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was taught that it was a motor if the energy was produced elsewhere and it was an engine if the energy was produced inside. A jet engine, a gasoline engine, and a diesel engine are internal combustion engines, while rocket, electric and hydraulic motors release energy that was generated outside the confines of the device.
poduszkowiec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not native English speaker, so my terminology might bexpect off.
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a problem! Your point was correct. Fueled systems are pretty much just used for transport and only a few have no electrical systems. A diesel can be run without any wiring, but no modern ones do. Same with steam.
jpterodactyl ยท 173 points ยท Posted at 16:14:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hysteria. "hyster" means uterus, and it was thought women were going crazy because something was wrong with the uterus. The recommended treatment was sex. In medieval times, the this meant they would marry someone off if they were "hysteric"
In the 19th century, doctors would masturbate women. This is actually why vibrators were first invented, because doctors could increase their patient load without wearing out their hands. The thought was that by stimulating the clitoris, they could relieve whatever was wrong with the uterus. The women would shake after a while, and that was a sign that they were cured. Doctors at the time did not consider this a sexual act, and they also believed that women did not orgasm.
Gonzostewie ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 16:54:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hehe... Patient load.
flaflashr ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:28:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gives a whole new meaning to forklifts
TheAlmightyMiguel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ayyyyyyyy
SquirrelHumper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... ? ...
flaflashr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hyster is (was?) a brand of forklifts.
patterson489 ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 17:29:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is completely untrue. Back when the word appeared, it specifically referred to psychological problems of women, and had nothing to do with the modern definition. In the medieval times, sex was certainly not seen as a cure for hysteria, although the companionship of marriage is indeed a cure for depression in both genders.
In the 19th century, hysteria changed definition to signify sexual dysfunctions (such as the inability to orgasm). Although there are anecdotes of doctors inducing orgasms to their patients, it was first certainly not standard or morally approved practice, and secondly those doctors knew what they were doing.
I don't think there has ever been a period in the history of mankind where people thought women unable to experience an orgasm. You can find countless literature about sexuality throughout the ages, including the Victorian era.
gold_medal_muffin ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:24:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which one am I supposed to believe?
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:27:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The second one.
Kartavious ยท -34 points ยท Posted at 18:43:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feminist propaganda. No one cares
slnz ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:32:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one that's not conveniently funny while being somewhat believable at a glance
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:50:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Usgarden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hearing it doesn't make it true. Source the first one then sure
Merlord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somebody google it already!
MikeTheInfidel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:23:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, not 'completely'. 'Hyster' is indeed Greek for 'womb'.
ennadawn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:39:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know countless people who believe women are incapable of experiencing an orgasm..
Jmac0585 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm... it can also be the cause of depression.
ChrissiTea ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:47:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't they also believe that hysteria was the womb going on a random jaunt around the body?
That might be something else...
jpterodactyl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:49:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah. "wandering womb"
Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoah.
l5555l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a hard time believing this one.
brooshkin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:26:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They made a movie all about this. It was called "Hysteria" for some reason I never really understood. Until now. I saw Maggie Gyllenhaal was in it and bailed. It's a 6.7 on IMDB.
scribble23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should watch it, it's really good and also very funny!
brooshkin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Will do. I can see an opportunity for funny stuff. I'm trusting you.
Byxit ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:19:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trump. It used to mean a kind of triumph, now its just a tawdry trumpet.
kurokoshika ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:20:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Playing your trump card suddenly has a whole different meaning. Could be good if youโre playing Cards Against Humanity - otherwise, maybe not so much.
Berlin1960 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:34:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โTrumpโ is a noun and a verb, meaning a fart/to fart. Used commonly in the uk.
The name Trump Tower always sounded utterly ridiculous!
wildhotdog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is awesome.
SittingInAnAirport ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But, is it true?
lfantine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer tawdry strumpets.
I knew a girl who played the strumpet in college.
atworksoonlysfwforme ยท 502 points ยท Posted at 15:49:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Volume: It was originally a word to mean to set the volume of your room to best replicate the original sounds. The thought being you need more sound to fill out a larger room.
supermats ยท 308 points ยท Posted at 17:39:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but I don't believe that. Volume has had the meaning of "amount" for a long time, seems like a very straightforward word to use for this purpose, no further explanation required. See also this discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/etymology/comments/2o848r/use_of_the_word_volume_to_describe_sound/
imperabo ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 19:01:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I've ever rescinded so many upvotes as I have in this thread, with all the contrary information. I don't even know who I am anymore.
SOwED ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:56:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now downvote yourself.
DJToastyBuns ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:51:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit hard mode
taitaofgallala ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their point may be more so referring to the fact that volume as a term to describe loudness is not as technical of terminology as the word amplitude. That's just my take; I'm not disagreeing with your point or arguing the etymological aspects.
lejefferson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't reneg what he said though. The fact that volume was used to describe how much sound it would take to fill up the room is preciesly the thing he is saying.
Yawehg ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 17:25:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...this seems like a lie but I really don't want it to be.
greengravy76 ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 16:36:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is the actual volume of a car or SUV? and what is the equivalent to 1 - 10 scale on a radio/stereo volume? Once these questions are answered I will be able to approach the a-holes who blast their car stereos in my apt's parking lot at midnight.
theNightblade ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:30:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
11
klattmose ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:03:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't you just make 10 louder?
greengravy76 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:15:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's one more.
nelsonmai ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:35:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he's got a point
GeckoDeLimon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A Tahoe is about 110 cubic feet.
StrippingVicar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was about the volume of air being moved by the speakers as they vibrate.
taitaofgallala ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that when you are referring to air displacement, the term is amplitude.
EDIT: The energy that displaces air is amplitude measured in dB.
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using the word volume to describe loudness predates recorded sound
Catshit-Dogfart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm learning a ton of shit in this thread, thought I knew a lot about audio terminology and such.
PM_ME_UR_808_SAMPLES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of audio terminology is left over from the early days. A patch bay in a studio is named after the OG physical patches the operator would make to connect phone calls way back when.
dd543212345 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:16:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Calling" an Uber
MrPhilLashio ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 19:17:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging.
There used to be an actual person who would clean dead bugs out of massive old-school computers.
DrNO811 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL....amazing.
TwatsThat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:20:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today you also learn that the above guys doesn't know what he's talking about. The term bug was used well before computers and can be dated back to at least Thomas Edison in the 1800's. If you even just stop and look at the note from Grace Hopper that is often cited as the origin of that meaning of 'bug' you can tell that's not how it started since Grace's note says this is the first time it was an actual bug, meaning that all previous bugs were just glitches or other problems and not insects.
DrNO811 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:30:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's not nearly as much fun. I had actually googled this after reading the OP comment, and it said the phrase came from someone at Harvard who had found a moth in the computer causing problems back in the early days of computers, and that they coined the term "debugging."
TwatsThat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:39:10 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to this short Wired article the Navy has been promoting the idea that the term originated with Grace Hopper and the moth so they're at least partly to blame for the spread of misinformation.
Grace was far more important than just coining the bug and if they really want to use her to promote the navy they should use the clip of her explaining how long a nanosecond is. That clip will hopefully also restore some of the fun you lost by my killjoy fact checking.
ThePOTUSisCraptastic ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 14:52:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm going to videotape you"
-Jesus-Of-Nazareth- ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:27:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody ever says this
ThePOTUSisCraptastic ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 16:32:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
k
bigredmachinist ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:41:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this was a good exchange. have some upvotes
ArbainHestia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sometimes say โtape itโ when referring to recording something on the PVR
blackpepperjc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100% this.
34HoldOn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still call it taping sometimes. Because I can.
tekjunky75 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:11:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film it
EntroperZero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Videotape" might be less common, but "taping" something is very common, even though it has nothing to do with tape anymore.
OUTFOXEM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I still use "tape" in reference to recording a video with my phone and cringe at myself every time I say it. I've occasionally said "film" as well.
EntroperZero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I got you on tape, motherfucker!"
No you don't, bitch, you got me on flash memory!
Doesn't really have the same ring to it. (And "flash" memory is itself an anachronism...)
DemenicHand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you can still get Radio Shack brand videotape rewinders from Amazon
MissVictoriaE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
came here to say that. "Omg, I'm gonna video tape it on my iphone!"
okay.
Economy_Cactus ยท 202 points ยท Posted at 16:05:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe this has been said yet.
But "Clockwise" and "Counterclockwise" are going to be dying out relatively soon.
From_31st_century ยท 366 points ยท Posted at 16:42:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then what will we use, turnwise and widdershins?
Economy_Cactus ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 16:51:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Righty Tighty and Lefty Loosey
Stabfist_Frankenkill ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 18:34:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a distinct memory of being little (3 or 4 maybe?) and having trouble opening a bottle. I asked an adult which way I had to turn the lid to open it and they said "righty tighty, lefty loosey."
I looked down at the lid for a moment, then back up to them. "Does that mean turn the top side of the lid to the left or the bottom side?"
"Well that's for you to figure out!"
Thanks for the help, dickhead.
pcy623 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a dick.
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk I thought it was pretty funny.
Emtreidy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still get confused about that!
SethQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the short answer is "yes". Pick any point, and make one full rotation. The direction of travel at the end of that rotation is your right/left.
Stabfist_Frankenkill ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:17:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this example, the direction of travel at the end of the full rotation is left. But this would tighten the cap, rendering "righty tighty, lefty loosey" useless without additional information (i.e. top or bottom of the lid, when looking at it from a top view as shown).
SethQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, that's what I get for believing everything I read. I used to have the same problem and that's what someone taught me. I never questioned it. And it always worked for me, but I always started from the top.
I wonder if I mis-remembered what they taught. Either way, good catch.
Ancguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:37:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of mine relates this to politics as well- going to the political right tightens shit down, going left loosens stuff back up again.
markymarksjewfro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a particularly good analogy, though. The right wing is looser on certain things (e.g. regulations on financial institutions) and the left is tighter on them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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GillicuttyMcAnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think of it as what ever side is facing you/the tool. So if you're holding the tool in your hand, looking down (or up) on something, turning it right will tighten and left to loosen.
Unless it's reverse threads.
NoMorePie4U ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rooty Tooty Point-and-Shooty!
graebot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hoity toity i love lucy.
MakingSandwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But is it the top or the bottom moving right?
Nequam_Asinus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Top
GillicuttyMcAnus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or bottom if you're underneath.
Nequam_Asinus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never thought of it that way...
Midwestern_Childhood ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:52:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love the word "widdershins."
MattieShoes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:32:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Terry Pratchett?
batnastard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of those many cool moments where Pratchett alluded to some actual archaic thing from Roundworld.
stereofailure ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shouldn't you know?
From_31st_century ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:20:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is totally breaking interdimensional time travel law but i can tell you that we are still using clockwise/counterclockwise in 3053
GALACTIC-SAUSAGE ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:24:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, do you know John Titor?
From_31st_century ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No
NicoUK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the save icon still a floppy disk?
From_31st_century ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:31:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not really sure. It's like a rectangle with a squiggly line on it. Hard to describe.
JediCJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
widdershins and doisil.
ObidiahWTFJerwalk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:45:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Deosil (But part credit for knowing that there is a bizarre, seldom-used counterpart to widdershins.)
dibetta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Righty and Lefty
Purple_Haze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should be sunwise or diasil/deiseal/deasil/deisal/deisul
dj_blueshift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Izkerda and Espercha
grenudist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunwise and Countersunwise.
Bonus confusion for the Australians.
crushing2013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Top-left, top-right
Sundance91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Swipe left, swipe right.
Lunchbox725 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this made me laugh disproportionately hard
raendrop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Deosil and widdershins.
Shoenbreaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have used widdershins, one of my favorite words once I learned of it, much to the confusion of others.
yepthatguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Liberalwise" and "fasciwise".
JavaRuby2000 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 16:57:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. Any expensive upmarket watch is still going to be Analog.
Even a lot of smart watches still use an Analog face. Expensive cars usually have a clock face instead off the digital one found in cheaper cars.
When people put big clocks on new buildings they tend to be large analog clocks.
Analog clocks are also used a lot more in interior design and as fashion pieces.
DaleLaTrend ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:31:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dashboard of my dad's Mercedes cracked me up the first time I saw it. That's a lot of real estate dedicated to an analogue clock.
FaxCelestis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Should we put a tachometer here?"
"Nah, there's one on the other side. Just put in a clock."
"But what about the fuel gauge?"
"Just put it in a little filly uppy thing on the left, it'll be fine."
thatserver ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 16:42:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clock faces are still in use.
eirereddit ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:49:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So they'll swap out Big Ben for a digital clock soon? Better tell them to stop the restoration works!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better hurry and sell my watch collection before they are all worthless.
Economy_Cactus ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 16:50:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes they are, but they are becoming more and more a thing of the past.
MaddenMan73 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:47:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
?? lolwut? Every office or professional place has a normal clock in it.
Economy_Cactus ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:00:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine doesn't. My last few places of employment didn't.
I'm not trying to say it doesn't exist.
Tearakan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:50:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wrist watches are becoming man jewelry so I think this one might stay around.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:26:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean becoming?
Tearakan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:49:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point lol
nicmos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the point is that the less proficient people get at reading analog clocks, the less useful they will be, up to the point where they really do not have any function. at that point their only purpose will be decorative. hence jewelry.
believe me, there's still a lot of people (including myself) who use analog watches and use them for their intended purpose. so in that sense they are decidedly not jewelry.
ScratchyBits ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clock bracelets?
Economy_Cactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but a lot of them are becoming "smart watches"
etihw_retsim ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:11:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even smartwatches often use an analog face.
dontforgetthelube ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:04:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think smart watches are considered quite as elegant or classy as an old school mechanical watch, though. But the day we get mechanical smart watches that could go out the window.
rn10950 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is this even possible?
dontforgetthelube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like a Curta calculator, but "smart" and small.
duffman13jws ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:53:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Call me when a Rolex is a smart watch.
FaxCelestis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://monochrome-watches.com/rolex-joins-smartwatch-race/
though it is an april fool's joke
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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duffman13jws ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Define good? If we're talking about a luxury watch, I'd say having your own in-house automatic movement is the bar. For mass-market, that means them, Omega, and Breitling. The rest is getting into boutique manufacturers.
When it comes down to it, these things are jewelry that happen to tell time, with an intricate amount of specialized detail going on inside the thing. That's the reason they're expensive.
MisteryWarrior ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolex makes fantastic watches. If they're not a good brand, I don't know what they are.
jai_kasavin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolex isn't a fashion house that buys their movements from ETA. They design and make their own. Also the Submariner is iconic, how many companies have icons like that JLC Reverso etc
BonkeyKongCountry ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 17:18:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. The analog clock is classic and is still preferred in terms of luxury and art. Digital is more efficient, but looks tacky.
battraman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, a digital display is fine for an alarm clock or on the stove or your VCR but my kitchen clock is analog and checking websites like Ikea show a distinct lack of digital clocks.
ajnaazeer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:40:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird, I find analog more efficient. Its totally illogical but I feel like I don't process the time if its digital.
BonkeyKongCountry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Analog is a representation of your whole day (24 hours, doubled up on itself). A digital clock is just a readout of the current time.
Psych0matt ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 16:16:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At first I wanted to disagree as the meaning still works, but then I realized you're right (and I'm getting old), that analog face clocks are getting fewer. However most people still wear wrist watches that aren't digital, at least in my experience, making it fairly easy to understand still
Warden_Ryker ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 16:26:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still common in luxury cars though!
Nicer problems to have... "I can't read the analogue clock in my ยฃ150,000 supercar!"
Beleynn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:24:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not just luxury cars - my 10 year old Ford has one!
baileyblackbird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom made fun of me when I got an Infiniti. Not only did it have an analog clock, but it only had lines and no numbers and I have a lot of trouble with those.
ParadoxalDream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A Honda CR-V isn't a luxury car by any stretch and I have a digital "analog" clock as the default visual on the media center touchscreen.
A lot of smartphones do that too.
yepthatguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those cars have lots of features which are just for show. A GT3 has cool center-lock wheels but I don't think they expect any owner to ever touch them.
Cinemaphreak ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:11:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in my world. Everywhere I go I see new analog clocks all the time. Most Trader Joe's use them and at work every clock on the walls are analog.
You know why? Because they are easier to see from a distance, use less power and they hold up better. Plus, if the power goes out most aren't affected because they run off of batteries.
I was around when "digital" clocks became a thing 35 years ago and people made the same "dying out soon" claim.
JoshvJericho ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:26:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Analog clocks are also much better for "check time" than digital clocks. It takes way longer to glance at a digital clock that reads 4:23 and know you have 22 minutes til your next thing vs. An analog and seeing the spaces and realizing you have plenty of time to jerk off before you leave.
yaminokaabii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, depending on the store layout, those clocks will definitely be affected if the power goes out. The store will be dark :P
FadedMaster1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glow in the dark hands. Boom! Problem solved. :-P
FaxCelestis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:32:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hello, yes, hi, I'm colorblind and can't see glow-in-the-dark materials.
So I guess problem solved for 96% of the population?
Arto9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am pretty sure digital clocks can run off batteries as well, but hey, don't quote me on that.
another-social-freak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I know anyone who regularly wears a watch at all, except for my parents.
Psych0matt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do, but it's digital! My last one was analog and I usually prefer them, but mine get beat up at work so it's usually cheap ones for me
brickmaster32000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do but all the buttons broke off, then daylight savings time hit. The bright side is I only have four more months before I have the correct time.
ajnaazeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think watch wearing is inversely related to smart phone addiction. If you're constantly on your phone you don't need it. But if you only pull out your phone when it rings/you get a notification then a watch serves a very real purpose. I have worn a watch everyday for the last 10 years. But I also only pull out my phone if i need it, never to check social media or what ever.
Economy_Cactus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:21:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even the people I know that are watch lovers have been switching to "smart watches" and fitbits. My father and fiance were the last ones I knew who still had a wrist watches (which were digital) and they both recently changed over to fitbits.
BicubicSquared ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:50:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mechanical watches will not be replaced by digital ones for a very long time yet. Mechanical watches are a status symbol and a fashion statement. The smart watch market doesn't compete with them.
digisax ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:09:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're also an interesting piece of engineering, which is why I like and wear one.
Economy_Cactus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:52:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. They will always be there. But in the sense that Vinyl is still around. It's becoming "niche."
asc6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear this said often and I'm not quite sure if I agree. Just as an iPhone can be a status symbol, an Apple Watch can be too. Especially when it's noticeable that it's cellular and/or ceramic. You know they paid a pretty penny for it. I couldn't tell you the price of any mechanical watch. But maybe that's just because I'm more inclined.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FaxCelestis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...yet.
Must I remind you of the Pimp-Boy 3 Billion?
ajnaazeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even think cost is the most important factor. While I am sure it is one, I think its just a sign of the finer things in life. You can get some really nice well made mechanicals for a few hundred dollars that are just as refined as the big boys. Such as orient. I think mechanical watches are about feel, soul and personality. Sort of like fountain pens.
joegekko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone I work with that bought an Apple watch has stopped wearing them. YMMV, but I don't think the smartwatch, as a gadget, has staying power.
VAPossum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dick Tracy would like to have a word with you.
FaxCelestis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've found the reverse around me in that they're becoming more and more prevalent. But then again I work in a software dev firm in San Francisco.
Lemonlaksen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In any line of work with high prestige an apple watch would be a joke
Jettrode ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:55:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/watches would like to have a word with you.
Economy_Cactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't tell them about me...
Rhodie114 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:06:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That said, most smart watches come preloaded with an analog face, and a lot are specifically designed with analog faces in mind
ZappySnap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a smartwatch now (Gear S3), but I keep an analog face on it 99.9% of the time.
TedTheViking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heresy!
ajnaazeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk if you could call someone who wears a digital watch a watch lover. That's like saying someone is a foodie because they eat at burger king. No offence intended. Just my opinion.
Wilhelm_Amenbreak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know enough people who have analog face clocks on their smart watches to think they they will never completely go away.
yepthatguy2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, you are old!
Psych0matt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
33, so kinda!
Dungaurd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know a single person who wears a watch, digital or analog.
IJzerbaard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We haven't reached the tipping point yet AFAIK, but I expect that somewhere within my lifetime, "telling the time on an analog clock" will stop being a skill taught in elementary school. It has already gone from "absolutely necessary" to "handy just in case".
euphemism_illiterate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even phones have analog watch diaps in the widgets
timsstuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I've gone the opposite direction, I finally retired my old Pebble where I mostly used the digital watch faces for a new Asus Zenwatch 3 and all the really cool watch faces are analog style. It takes me an extra half second to figure out what time it is because I haven't done it in so long, that's a little scary.
Lespaul42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I was going to disagree as well then realized the only analog clock in my house is an old coo-coo clock I have for no other reason then it being cool that it is old... and even then I have only had it up for about a year and before that probably didn't really have an analog clock for a decade maybe... wow...
horsenbuggy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't worn a watch in years, over a decade. And I get annoyed when I see an analog clock now. Sigh.
VAPossum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're still very present, though, especially in collectible watches and public clocks (public buildings, schools, stores, etc.), partly because they're almost always more aesthetically pleasing. "Clockwise" might fade because fewer people will be able to instinctively know what that is (at least without stopping and thinking), but analog clocks aren't going away just yet, and probably won't as long as people value their form over ease of function.
OggiBenDoggy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But weโve come full circle and are back to carrying pocket watches again.
Psych0matt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have yet to see this.
OggiBenDoggy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you check the time now? I pull out my little rectangular pocket watch myself.
Psych0matt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's... ok you win.
Juggernauticall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know anyone under 65 who wears a watch.
NextArtemis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew someone that didn't know how to read is Rolex watch. It was a really sad moment for everyone involved.
ttsb1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think ur right to disagree, because I think its one of those terms that is going to stick around even tho clocks are becoming digital. Simply because its so heavily used. I dont think ive ever used another word to describe rotational direction.
yesanything ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:31:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clockwise and Counter-clockwise most certainly apply perfectly to routes 21 and 22.
RaguInPasta ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:31:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'll always be relevant in polar graphing. And anyway, most "classier" appearing watches are analog. And then there's stuff like tightening screws and wrenching on things.
shifty_coder ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:49:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
arkhound ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about that. I still see it in constant use.
Just last night I was raiding in WoW (a younger raid based on the voices in discord) and we were using clockwise and counterclockwise to determine pathways.
Boatsnbuds ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:49:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Analogue clocks will probably stay around, I think. I mean, there's really no reason for them to exist now, but they do. They're more aesthetically pleasing than digital clocks are.
DennisNedrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will always have analog watches until I die.
LordSoren ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bring back widdershins.
themuffinmann82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not on my watch
busty_cannibal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. The analog wall clock is much cheaper to make than a digital one. As long as that remains true, you will see analog clocks on most walls of this world.
neoslith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone in the healthcare field, analog watches are best.
lupuscapabilis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about that one. I see plenty of analog clocks in everyday life. I like having a big clock on the wall.
gutterpeach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? Do people not wear watches anymore? I...I..I cannot be that old. Also, I think your right foot is on my lawn. Kindly remove it!
HoverboardsDontHover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When do you live? There's several face clocks around in my office and if I click on the time in the corner of my PC it shows me a picture of a face clock. The majority of nice watches still use a face and hands.
BLACKMACH1NE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch lover here. No way in hell.
ridik_ulass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
analogue clocks are like books, sure the digital version is technically better but people prefer the character and style of the original, I don't think they will die out.
Average_human_bean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? No, wristwatches are still very very common, and I don't expect that to change any time soon.
jdallen1222 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It hasn't been said yet because it is speculative and probably wrong.
JestaKilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how many kids can't read an old school clock these days.
SciFISpaceKitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How would you describe the direction an axle turns?
One_And_All_1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, I doubt analog dress watches will be jumping the shark anytime soon
Roarlord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does that mean we can use widdershins?
Horzzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Check your six" will mean what then?
Lizardrevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Things like this are so ingrained in the common culture that even if they do lose context for a lot of newer generations, I don't they'll be done for any time soon
suburban_hyena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clockwise to be changed to mean "ascending numbers"
roh8880 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โFar out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-two million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.โ
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still need to know the time...
GachiGachiFireBall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not necessarily. Although not as practical as digital clocks, analog clocks are preffered for their look.
steve233 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Clockwise' and 'counterclockwise' are still used in mathematics to talk about direction of rotation. I think they have a good chance of sticking around even if analog clocks disappear.
Lemonlaksen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? Analog clocks are still extremely common. They are common now than 10-20 years ago
esoteric_enigma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boss told me to place something down facing 6 o' clock. He looked at me like I was an idiot because I had to motion a clock in the air to figure out what direction he meant. I'm not a damn fighter pilot! No one talks like that. I haven't had to stare at an analog clock since grade school.
DaleLaTrend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.
timthetollman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong. Ever hear of a roundabout?
Economy_Cactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
timthetollman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then welcome to wrongsville lad.
SirTreeTreeington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly this is one thing I believe will never go away.
stone_henge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe in the 80s there was a half-decent reason to believe that circular clock faces would eventually become irrelevant, what with the popularity of digital clocks and wrist watches. But they have been proven relevant, as fashion and as practical representations of the passing of time. Ultimately they are a very natural, low level abstraction that represents the rotation of the earth around its own axis.
aForeigner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But isn't this very thread full of examples of words and phrases that haven't died out even though their origins have?
Economy_Cactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah man. It wasnโt a good example. I get it. I had about 60 messages saying how stupid I am. I should delete it, but maybe Iโm a glutton for punishment
shred1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The buses on the island of Rarotonga go clockwise around the island and "anti" clockwise. http://www.busaboutraro.com/schedule.html
evilbrent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Says you.
The hands on my watch go in the right direction still
Economy_Cactus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a POS I get it
shokalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
D'you think?
Somehow I doubt the analog clock will be going anywhere anytime soon.
SpehlingAirer ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 17:31:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "husband" originally meant a man whose profession was in husbandry. They were often considered ideal partners for a woman to be with, which is why women wanted not just a partner, but a "husband" to marry.
whoAreYouToJudgeME ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:24:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Google dictionary says it came from Old Norse hus (house) and bondi (occupier and tiller of the soil). Together they basically mean master of a house.
SpehlingAirer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True! And the occupation of husbandry involves cultivating crops, so basically a farmer, which goes in hand with tiller of the soil. Husbands were considered ideal because they had land, a house, food, and income. Basically all the necessities.
iluvstephenhawking ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:47:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did I read that word in LaBarbara's voice?
fujicakes ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:45:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You may be in possession of a Manwich
CreamSoda64 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:10:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet sustenance of Providence!
l5555l ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:27:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet potatoes of Barbados!
Paladin_of_Trump ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:42:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet lion of Zion!
GothWitchOfBrooklyn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:49:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet gorilla of Manilla!
shiky556 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just be on the lookout for Barbados Slim
n1ad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I'd wanted a human Adonis for a husband, I'd have stayed married to Barbados Slim.
PikeSquare ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really interesting actually
christurnbull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why she is the "Bride" (bridle?) and he is accompanied by "groomsmen"
gepland ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 15:06:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly a term but the save icon being a floppy disk in video games.
XanatosINC ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:12:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also the added layer that the icon is of a solid, 3.5", so-called "floppy disk," which itself replaced the actually floppy 8" and 5.25" floppy disks.
house_paint ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:15:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked with a guy from South Africa and he said they called the "3.5: stiffies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiffy
XanatosINC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's amazing! I really, really enjoy the Australia/NZ/SA habit of giving nouns an "ee" suffixed nickname (bbq->barbie, sunglasses->sunnies, university->uni, etc.).
Zeruvi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:27:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 20 years when floppy disks are actually forgotten (not just joked about) I wonder if that'll hold up, if kids will wonder where the save symbol came from
BananafishGlass ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:45:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Burnie Burns from Rooster Teeth said on their podcast that he was playing the Lego Movie videogame with his son (who I think was 8ish at the time), and there was a big floppy disk you had to move. His son said, "go grab that giant save button".
I've heard similar stories as that.
UGMadness ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:01:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to remark that in 20 years maybe they will move on to something more modern like a CD for saving but then I realized they're more associated to music CDs.
Then it dawned on me that music CDs are going the way of the dodo also. I'm getting old.
Also, "way of the dodo". Nobody knows what a dodo was anymore either.
melissapete24 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:48:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who has watched Ice Age knows what dodos are, so don't worry, my friend.
queenofgoats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a technology outreach program with kids and they have NO IDEA what the "save button" icon is. Floppy disks are already forgotten.
isaakybd ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:52:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment - when was the last time you ever saw gloves in one much less someone using 'driving gloves' ?
Mazer_Rac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:04:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a pair of driving gloves in my glove compartment. I never use them, but they're there. My dad picked them up on a vacation to Italy.
Chill_Vibes_Brah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually a pretty cool thing to have.
Emtreidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every EMT I know does. Including me. Not just for stopping at accident scenes, but I gotta protect my manicure when I check my engine fluids or add wiper fluid.
Edit: didnโt see the โdriving glovesโ bit.
fcpeterhof ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the desert and I once saw a lady driving in the summer while wearing oven mitts. Kinda genius, really..
Hammand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:36:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep a pair of leather work gloves in the glove box and they're super handy. I also routinely use driving gloves. In the winter when the steering wheel is frigid and sometimes in the summer when the steering wheel is too hot.
This is normal behavior where I live. You seem like the odd one out.
kurokoshika ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wear gloves in my car in the winter cuz my hands freeze on the steering wheel. :โ) But I keep them in my purse so theyโre not icy cold when I get in the car. (Also letโs face it, Iโd be too lazy to do anything with them but toss them in the front seat.)
NegFerret ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:20:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Listening to books on tape. Even though the first one I listened to was actually on CD, and now they are digital. I just can't say "audiobooks" naturally yet.
show_me_ur_fave_rock ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:39:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hearing that phrase makes me think of the read-aloud picture books on tape we'd get to use early in elementary school. When you hear the ~bing~, turn the page.
Iplayamandalynn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:12:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trailer vs previews. "Did you see the preview of the new movie?"
Also, it could just be me, but I say linens instead of sheets.
gutterpeach ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:58:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting observation. I store my sheets in the linen closet.
My grandmother would iron her sheets (I think she called them sheets) after the dried outside on the line. I decided to iron mine, just to see what ironed sheets would feel like. Not nice enough to ever do that again.
Iplayamandalynn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:06:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha! I forgot that ironing still exists.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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gutterpeach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:09 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I missed this reply. There are so many awesome things about this. Youโve raised a good kid if she;s helping a neighbor with laundry like that. Especially ironing her sheets.i would probably do it again but king size sheets were just too much.
Thatโs all just so,sweet. :-)
someoldbroad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom marvels at the fact that my aunt irons her sheets every time she visits her sister. I donโt even iron work blouses
SkyeMac ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:47:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In film/tv, we'll say "rolling", despite a lack of film.
PedanticPinniped ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in audio... Also we โcut a track,โ despite not recording to vinyl in decades
minttyy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:09:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite thing to do is ask young kids if they know why we say "roll up the window". Now that all cars mostly have automatic windows they don't know about the crank.
69ingJamesFranco ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:46:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We say in school that we have to write a paper but we actually type them not write them
waywardwoodwork ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:50:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typesetting: The process of laying out text for print in an appropriate format, spacing, indentation, margin, etc.
All done on computers now, but used to literally be setting lead blocks of type in place to print.
Bikeboy76 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:48:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a common term really, but a movie quote from Star Wars: Admiral Motti: Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes ...
It was weird watching the plot of Rogue One falling over backwards to create a scenario in which the Empire keep all its data on one planet on physical media that could be stolen just to make this line still relevant.
mycelo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:56:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Snapshot it's a hunting term, meaning to shoot something very quickly, like a reflex.
neihuffda ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:24:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Marine (and aeronotical) vessels moving at an amount of "knots".
In the days of sailing ships, the shipmates would throw out a long rope at the stern of the ship, with a hydrobrake at the end of it. This prevented the rope from following along with the ship, so that the ship's movement would cause it to unwind. Now, on this rope, there were knots tied with a set distance between them. Someone would turn an hourglass, and count the number of knots passing through the fingers of the person holding the rope during a set amount of time.
The distance between each knot was 8 fathoms, and the time counted was 30 seconds.
Pretty nifty system!
impermanent_soup ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:44:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term โShit-facedโ and its historical Scottish origin to reference a state of drunkenness. In medieval UK there was no indoor plumbing yet. So naturally people would do their business in chamber pots. When the chamber pot was full one would simply empty it out of their window into the street where (hopefully) the rain would eventually carry it away. There were only certain hours of the day in which it was legal to dump ones chamber pot. Usually between the hours of 10pm and 7 am the next morning. Coincidentally bars/pubs in many cities closed at 10pm. So of course many people made it a game to hit the drunken patrons of the bars with the contents of their chamber pot as they were making their ways home. It was courteous when dumping ones chamber pot to call out the phrase โGardyloo!โ (Which is taken from a French phrase meaning โmind the waterโ) to warn passers-by. Naturally the most drunk of the patrons upon hearing someone shouting from above them would look up to see where the noise is coming from. Only to be met with a face full of shit. They would get home and their wives would scold them for coming home shitfaced again. Hence the term โshitfacedโ
MrCrash ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:30:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: 1/3 of the comments are repeats because no one bothers to read any of the thread before posting the same shit about floppy disks, telephones, and car windows.
r0baj0b ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to reddit
try_____another ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the same as the last few hundred times this question has been asked.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:17:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DOES ANYONE DO A SEARCH BEFORE POSTING?? (video tape. roll down the windows. etc.)
Serious-Mode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you aware that people still "hang up" the phone? Bugs in computer software were originally actual bugs!
McSquee14 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:39:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Can you TiVo last nights Survivor for me?"
"Grandma, we haven't had TiVo for more than a decade."
cleric3648 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:23:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer Bug.
Today, this refers to an unwanted problem with a computer program.
Back in the day, computers were HUGE. They used vacuum tubes, and gave off a lot of heat and light. This was perfect for bugs like moths. They would be attracted to the heat coming from the machine.
The first computer bug was a moth flying into the computer, and creating a circuit when it touched two vacuum tubes at once. This caused an unexpected error in the program. After digging through the code, Dr. Grace Hooper went through the machine inch by inch until she found the bug that caused all of the problems.
BrentOGara ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great story, and almost historically correct... but the moth in fact prevented a relay from closing as opposed to completing a circuit.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 16:42:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...seriously? It's a pretty freaking common phrase.
busty_cannibal ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 17:47:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No they don't. Record sales jumped 25% in 2016, now they're about what they were in 1988. You must know some pretty sheltered kids.
BeeAreNumberOne ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:29:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it not possible that the majority of those resurgent record sales are the same people who were buying them before, resulting in a younger generation that still wouldn't know?
Not to mention, records and record players are being produced with more durability and fidelity, so the idea of a "broken record" might not be intuitive even to someone who is new to vinyls as part of this wave.
dro13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk about that. It seems like the majority of people buying records these days are on the younger side. The recent surge seems to be a hipster-vintage type of trend. If it's someone that's 55+ they've either caught up to digital or still purchase CDs. But I could be wrong.
CrazyJay10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people buy records purely for the collector's value, with no intention of actually using them.
KZedUK ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
okay first off. No, I buy records, my mum and dad don't.
Secondly, modern record players are known to be worse in quality than classic ones.
READERmii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For real, I've seen records in relatively recent movies and I think most people would know about it at least as an example or archaic technology even if they've never seen or used one. I think record player is perhaps the most popular representation of obsolete there is.
SoTotallyToby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard record sales jumped again but I honestly don't know anyone who has a single record. I don't know why you would when you can just use Spotify or iTunes.
Kurayamino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because they're a physical thing. You can collect them.
A friend of mine has been collecting the different pressings of The Living End albums. Done in different colour vinyl and such, so he's got like three or four of some albums because in addition to the regular black there's white or patterned or transparent red or what have you.
But mostly the jump is because hipsters.
Jargen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vinyl is making a comeback
Juniebug9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That surprises me. It's a very common idiom.
flemerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. My 4yo heard a cd โskipโ for the first time the other day. He asked what was wrong with it and I said that itโs just skipping. He had no idea what I was talking about.
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They look confused? I found out scratched records skipped way after I heard that expression.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet they all listen to repetitive dj's.
thelynx42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Angel: It used to mean messenger or courier. Somebody that was hired to deliver something to somebody else. That's why the Bible phrases it as "an angel of The Lord."
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:41:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cop (as in police officers)
From what I understand, police in Britain years ago used to have copper buttons on their jackets. They were called coppers, or cops for short. Might be an old wives tale but it kinda makes sense
Redkirth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:45:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true.
Also they are called "Bobbies" after Robert Peel who remformed the police department into what it is now. The USA based it's entire policing policy on Peelian Reform.
aschwartzy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:12:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bootleg! It originally came from the smugglers' practice of concealing bottles in their boots.
Pretty different from its current usage.
jamin_g ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ring the door Bell.
The shutter sound our cell phones make when taking a picture.
TravelDude14 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:47:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To film something using a smartphone is something I hear quite often. Technically you should say โrecord thisโ.
EndlessOcean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up"
We just push a button. Nowhere near as satisfying as slamming the receiver back into the cradle.
candidly1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have the ubiquitous, 2-line Bell cradle phone on my desk; had to weigh 20 pounds. Holy shit but did it feel good to slam that sucker.
DaddyMike ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:33:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter asked me the other day why we called the house phone a 'cordless'.
She has no concept that phone ever had cords of course.
maddiemoiselle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:57:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Phone ringing off the hook". With cell phones, that's kind of impossible.
Velvis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It kinda was before as well...
maddiemoiselle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was more feasible though when there was an actual hook that a phone went on. There's no hooks on cell phones. Also, even most landline phones don't have a hook either.
READERmii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The expression used now is "blowing up"
superanth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:09:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
papasmurph ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:10:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watermark(ing), still used on digital pictures, with no water in sight.
Scoopski-Potatoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:45:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taping a show
beard_meat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:17:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much everyone owns handheld computing devices we carry around with us everywhere. We choose to refer to these devices, which are capable of performing a million different functions, as telephones, even though vocal communication likely is not the primary, secondary, or even tertiary purpose of these devices for the majority of people.
roastermcgavin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:48:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase "would you like some cheese with that whine" is commonly thought to be a pun for cheese and wine/whine. In fact the phrase was coined by the Wild West photographer Tom McVale. Photographs at that time cost on average of one weeks pay and most customers only had enough funds for one flash. He would give cranky children cheese before a photo in order to stop their crying. Hence why we say cheese before pictures.
GarrisonFjord ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The floppy disk as a save icon.
djbowen87 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:20:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove box in our cars. Was literally a box on the firewall that your gloves went into to get warmed up by the heat of the engine
WzrdSleeve ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:21:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and paste โ Back before computers, when you took your typing to the secretarial pool (I did this), you would literally cut out relevant passages from related documents and paste them to a sheet of paper. You them took this to the secretaries to type up the new document.
KingClam2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:46:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't believe I don't see "redial" anywhere
0ldgrumpy1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upper case. The capital letters were in the top tray on hand set printing.
FalstaffsMind ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 15:14:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Texting is kind of an anachronism already. You do a lot more than just send text messages.
some-dev ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 15:30:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean? Texting is still very much texting isn't it? I mean you can send pictures/videos too, but I would still refer to standard text-only messages as "texting".
standingfierce ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:05:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People do say "text me that picture" though, to mean send by sms/mms.
pilvy ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 16:39:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, who the fuck uses MMS?
Why spend (what used to be 50p) per fucking picture when you could just whatsapp it for free.
Jettrode ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 16:51:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone I know in the US has unlimited sms/mms included in their cell plan.
pilvy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not US, hence the 50p (62cents eqv) per picture.
Jettrode ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand. I was just pointing out why people in the US still uses mms as apposed to whatsapp or some other app.
pilvy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My bad, it was rarely used here by people I knew as it was so relatively expensive just for single and at the time low quality pictures in comparison to now.
O2 is one of our most popular providers and still charges :\ https://www.o2.co.uk/help/account-and-billing/text-and-picture-messaging
KZedUK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
best part is I've literally never had it work even when I've tried.
(Context I'm 18 but I've had probably as many generations of phones as a 25 year old)
etihw_retsim ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:09:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the answer to your question of who uses MMS is people in the US.
pilvy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:10:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I got that now, thanks for jumping in though
phenorbital ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I remember going to the US when that'd have been $1...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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pilvy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Text message (SMS) yeah, picture messages (MMS) no.
metalshadow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah sorry I reread the convo and deleted my comment
John_Wilkes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:10:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use it when I get a network signal but not data coverage. I will differentiate between "texting" and "WhatsApping"
xcrackpotfoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still use whatsapp?
daguito81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over here in Venezuela Whatsapp is so common and basically essential that people will mostly say "Hey I wrote to you" meaning I sent you a Whatsapp message
EntroperZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Texting" is technically SMS, for Short Message Service, and pictures and video don't travel over SMS, they use MMS, the Multimedia Message Service.
SMS actually uses kind of a hack, and sends the message on normal control packets when there isn't any actual control information to send, so it's essentially "free" (and this is also why they're limited to 160 characters). MMS obviously can't do that unless you want it to take hours to send a JPEG, it uses an entirely different system. But your messaging app makes it look the same.
HotRodLincoln ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 15:22:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That leads to an existential question: Are emojis text?
I mean, they're just unicode codepoints, but so is Korean/Hangul.
FalstaffsMind ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 15:26:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say that emojis are glyphs. We are rediscovering an ancient form of communication dating back to the Pharaohs of Egypt.
IsaacTamell ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 16:02:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait until you're getting all smily and winky face with some girl. Next thing you know, your ass gets sucked into the shadow realm and she's dueling the shit out of you.
AkariAkaza ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:22:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh this is good
I like where this is going
Aaand I'm out
cake_flattener1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Catherine?
AkirIkasu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, you know, the majority of Southeast Asia.
Zondartul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a difference between a text emoticon like :P and an emoji that uses a picture?
FalstaffsMind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's just a matter of how sophisticated your glyph is. Text is words, while :P is a pictograph.
๐๏ธ Allen_MacGyverson ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 15:25:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're hieroglyphics.
ThinkingWithPortal ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:58:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know you're being funny but I quite like them sometimes. They're a way of communicating an idea without words which is useful now and again.
Kinda how "lol" acknowledges something was funny/cute/light-hearted without extra working going into explaining that
bizitmap ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:36:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's also interesting is how we've started using grammatical "mistakes" to indicate tone of voice
"No" and "No." mean something different.
ThinkingWithPortal ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:08:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! Or like what I call "Tumblr speak" with run on sentences, no capitalization at the start, and rarely punctuation, with a notable sass like:
ok but how come there aren't more articles about how Bernie can still win he can still win right guys
FaxCelestis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. Like when I'm typing out something I intend to be sarcastic and deadpan I'll say it like:
Instead of:
ThesaGamer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:46:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing I don't like is that emojis don't look the same on all platforms. Like on Samsung phones, a bunch of emojis look absolutely awful while they look good on iPhone or PC or something.
ThinkingWithPortal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OH MY GOD THIS.
There needs to be some sort of a standard, or a more common way to switch them.
FaxCelestis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the Unicode Consortium is working on that.
try_____another ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm just disappointed they didnโt use combining characters to assemble the people emojis. Then there wouldnโt be the demand for separate code points for variants (female, realistic skin, etc) because you could just assemble the parts you wanted. Also, you could combine the hair and clothing โaccentsโ with the emotion ones, to make an angry policeman or whatever.
Olly0206 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"lol" acknowledges something funny because it literally means "laugh out loud."
UGMadness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the correct term is "pictogram".
Some hieroglyphs were pictograms, not just a minority of them. Same with ancient Chinese.
JestaKilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sometimes move.
nagol93 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:19:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how you define text.
From a computer standpoint, yes. As there seen in the same way as letters/numbers/symbols.
From a language stand point, no. Because their not part of a language. Their more of illustrations.
HotRodLincoln ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:23:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then here's the tricky part, what if I use Korean ๋ถ to mean "Cat Sentinel" or ํ as a "man in a hat with a spear".
bizitmap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cat Sentinel, this fall on Toonami
brownsquared ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So one - if you sent me a text with a Korean symbol I wouldn't be like, oh, right, cat sentinel. I'd be super confused why you were typing to me in Korean.
Two - when the heck have you ever needed to say to someone, cat sentinel?
nagol93 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:31:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry? im not frimilar with Korean.
HotRodLincoln ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't need to be. I'm talking about using Korean letters, but using them as emojis when you're a non-Korean speaker.
nagol93 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok? Im still not fully understanding what your saying.
Where are you getting "Cat Sentinel" and "man in a hat with a spear" from? Are those what those symbols/letters mean?
HotRodLincoln ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:19:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's what they look like.
Juniebug9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:20:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, the shape of the letters look like a cat and a guy in a hat holding a spear.
theniceguytroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:53:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're*
On all 3 counts.
Scubatroopa687 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:02:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
send noodles
LENoBOT ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:06:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
GregorF92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still text though, so it doesn't really fit as an answer in this thread.
krimsen ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:34:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This phenomenon has a word:
anachronism - a thing belonging or appropriate to a period other than that in which it exists, especially a thing that is conspicuously old-fashioned.
Lunchbox725 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i dont think is quite right.
Sort of, but not quite.
Hairarse ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 14:58:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
same as wind the window down in a car
vxicepickxv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can still find cars without power windows.
jacob_ewing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "crank"
kurokitsune91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We "roll" down the window. Still implying we're turning something
Wyn6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because there were (and still are) a set of rollers which pressed on either side of the glass, when a handle was cranked, and rolled clockwise or counter-clockwise to raise or lower the window.
XanatosINC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard "wind" down the window before โย may I ask in what anglophone region you use that?
melissapete24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in central Pennsylvania, and we use both "roll" and "wind" pretty equally. I've heard people from all over the place say "wind"; I never knew it wasn't the common thing to say. Fascinating!
XanatosINC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:22:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like it!ย I'm out in LA so either I just never happened to encounter it or it hasn't made it this far West yet.
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who knows? I like learning little tidbits like this, though. I find it so interesting. So thanks! :)
melissapete24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still do wind down my windows, actually. I have a 1974 VW Microbus; they didn't come with a power window option. Lol!!!
alphafire45 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:56:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Punch in/out" as in to put your self on/off the work clock.
I KNOW that it's not completely gone. I had a job only about 15 years ago that used an actual punch clock, but it is becoming more and more rare.
gregortroll ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:15:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: People who can't take 2 seconds to see that "roll the windows (up|down)" has been mentioned two thousand times already.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:18:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm alarmed by the use of "melt" to incorporate the concept of dissolution, e.g. "Put two teaspoons of sugar in the tea and stir until the sugar melts". I've heard this from a couple of different sources, and am hoping it's just coincidental ignorance, and not a US trend.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:20:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:47:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you put sugar in the microwave to melt it, it's going to melt all over the oven. You need to put it on a metal spoon.
Green__lightning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steam explosion aside, a lot of it probably would end up dissolving into the tea.
ArketaMihgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can lazily and often crappily ?temper? sugar in the microwave for various levels of candy (hard being easiest) if you mix it with corn syrup. Or I suppose minimal moisture, since you wouldn't be boiling off the water
I mean good luck getting it out of the container after it's been raised to that temp and hardens, but she could accidentally kind of make candy
It's also not actually that awful (mostly it's wasteful in my experience because of incomplete disso-?lution? idfk words, too tired) compared to making candy on a stovetop if you heat, stir, repeat as advised by Google-able recipes, and then throw in an envelope of your favourite koolaid flavour when it's not so hot it will burn the powder
Again tho, seriously difficult to clean up without some effort, thanks to the need to use glass and it ending up coated with tempered sugar
And useless for tea, but hey - microwave candy!
drakeg4 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:09:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I've never heard anyone use melt in that way.
GothWitchOfBrooklyn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same, i've never heard this
Fingers_9 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:47:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, that is said in the UK too. It's only now you have pointed it out that I realise how wrong it is.
OoooooohSnap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:13:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard anyone say that in the UK, where are you from?
sboyd1989 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard it either. I'm in the north west of England
Fingers_9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wales, but have lived in Devon, Bristol and Leicester. I don't think It is hugely common, but I have heard it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Fingers_9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:49:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Do people realize what the melting point of salt is?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AlmanzoWilder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yep.
its2ez4me24get ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:27:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard that
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:46:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I was you.
its2ez4me24get ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:15:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard that.
virginal_sacrifice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
confused
reads username
still confused
Cuchullion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:38:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But "until the sugar is sufficiently dissolved in the solution so as to not cause an unpleasant texture" doesn't quite have the same kick as 'melt'.
ReallyHadToFixThat ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:50:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dissolves" would do. "Dissolves completely" if you want to cover your bases.
theniceguytroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You ReallyHadToFixThat, didn't you?
ReallyHadToFixThat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:59:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely.
mr-death ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make simple syrup and keep it in the fridge!
Equal parts sugar and (almost) boiling water. Mix the two a little and let stand for a few minutes, then pour into a squueze bottle, and you have a perfect sweetener for iced tea!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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agentkolter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:49:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word album to describe a collection of songs.
Back in the early 20th century, the 78 RPM record was the most popular way to play recorded music. These records only held about 5 minutes of play time per side though. If you wanted to have an entire symphony, for example, you would need several discs. The discs would be sold in "albums" - several record sleeves bound on one edge like a book, similar to a photo album.
SpaceTurtle917 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the clip" refers to the literal roll of film
FlavourFlavius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movie - the term for moving pictures from before the introduction of sound in the cinema.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still moving pictures tho
FlavourFlavius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But now with glorious sound!
Talkies was the term introduced when sound came in to cinema.
Daegog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy
RobotCockRock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:59:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hard disk/disc. In the era of SSD's, most of our devices are going sans-disk.
josiguuh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:25:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or roll your windows up/down
Damasticator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:30:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I got it on tape!"
No you didn't, you recorded it with your phone.
skillfire87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And itโs barely a โphoneโ anymore....!
Migas_de_pan_dulce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jaywalking
It came from the term Jay-driver. This initially referred to a driver of horse-drawn carriage or automobile who refused to follow traffic laws. More specifically driving on the wrong side of the road.
Anchorshag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:46:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A good chunk of English (especially in the UK) is made up of idioms and sayings derivedfrom the age of sail. Chock a block, three sheets to the wind, freeze the balls off a brass monkey, three abreast, keep an even keel, try a different tack... And loads more all have nautical origins.
Tobybrent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:50:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I โread the (news)paperโ on my iPad.
Black_JalapenYo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtape
rawbit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will "tape" that.
zak_on_reddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:01:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What
You guys don't rewind your DVDs before returning them to Netflix or Redbox?
mattzog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's a DVD?
zak_on_reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's similar to a VHS tape.
twoBrokenThumbs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:11:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an avid video gamer, I would say that some people (us old folks) call the analog sticks "joysticks" because that was what Atari called them.
greeneyes822 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your horses
Jedi_Cop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tape" as I'm did you tape over our wedding video
kozlee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trailblazer. Used to mark a trail in the woods by blazing a tree (scraping off bark, would resemble the 'blaze' marking on a horse's face)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SplitArrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically it's an accelerater.
Ofreo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:03 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure the owners' manual will instruct him as to which lever is the velocitator and which one is the deceleratrix
ekvivokk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bit late to the party, but everything that you "turn" on, before, you actually had to turn, as in twist, a wheel to well, turn something on. Now we just push it on really.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:07:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we say someone is in the limelight. It is a reference to a Victorian-era type of stage light that used calcium oxide, aka "lime" to produce a bright light.
GaydolphShitler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:17:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "balls to the wall" or "balls out" comes from the centrifugal governors on steam engines. These worked by attaching a pair of spinning (usually ball-shaped) weights to the throttling mechanism. As the motor speed increased, the centrifugal force would pull the weights apart, partially closing the throttle and slowing the motor down. When running at full speed, the weights would extend to their outermost position, meaning the "balls" would be "out" or "to the walls."
madaraszvktr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word coach actually comes from the name of a Hungarian town called Kocs (pronounced kind of like coch). The first carriages with dampening springs were produced here, and the Holy Roman Empire used them for postal service. Hungarians called it the "kocsi szekรฉr" meaning carriage from/of Kocs. The name quickly spread through Europe with the vehicle so most European languages use it in some form. Hungarian is no exception but "kocsi" means car instead of a kind of bus. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kocs
isarealboy13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still using the term โwipeโ when describing how they finish up after using the toilet.
I canโt believe more of you havenโt switched to digital.
Abbsynth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:29:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Literally"
podestaspassword ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's literally not even the same word anymore
gynoceros ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:52:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a broken record.
Beergelden ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The hand motion used to signal someone to โroll down the car windowโ. My 6 year old thought I was pumping my fist and started doing it back at me.
kaaaaath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up/hang up.
READERmii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up still makes sense if you're not already holding it.
kaaaaath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:46 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I guess, but itโs not the same as when taking it off the hook is what begun the call.
MisogynisticBumsplat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:04:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find it quaint how the universal symbol for "save" is a floppy disk
mikewise ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
scrolling
NC_DE336 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The super obvious one, โhanging upโ on the phone. Thatโs been out of relevance for a long time.
alexrepty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:39:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Havenโt seen this one anywhere yet: the names for our ninth, tenth, eleventh and twelfth month come from the Latin words for seven, eight, nine and ten. Years used to start on quite different dates throughout the history of keeping time.
highyak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling up the windowsโ of your car back when they actually had to be cranked. Now itโs just pushing the button!
GreatKingRat666 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videogame.
C-McCain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cue generic dad: "roll down the windows kids!"
Children press button
Cajun_Sensation_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using the verb โfilmโ interchangeably with the verb โvideoโ
mrclean808 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DJing nowadays not counting DVS and the few that still use vinyl, most DJs dont use actual "discs" anymore.
96cherokee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Caught on tape
Arie_Baller_10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:49:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โDial the phoneโ
MarkMoreland ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-sides. I guess these are still a thing on vinyl singles, but so much of music is distributed on digital formats or CDs these days that it's no longer really a thing.
gnarlin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the tape".
KalebTheKraken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the window down, the save icon, and the call icon.
Brsrkjrk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:57:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surnames representing proffessions, such as Smith, Thatcher, Sawyer, and Hooker.
elhaupto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:02:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hang up"
JonnyHotpockets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Press red button
jake420 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:04:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the car windows.
pedroplaysguitar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but the save symbol is still a floppy disk
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:17:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The phone icon is a wired handset.
Silo_thegreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:25:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone", where once we had phones with 2 miles of coiled chord that would turn into a tangled ball of frustration when you stretched it too far.
notmyrealname86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still have that at work. Pisses me off all day.
Silo_thegreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, damn that sucks. Lol
Room4Jlo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:34:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment in a car. It's been years since I've seen somebody put a pair of gloves in there.
NatNatMcree ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the window down, used to have the handle thing that youโd use to roll the window up and down
RockitDanger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:03:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
chudd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PowerPoint slides and decks. These were originally physical slides you would put into an actual deck to project them.
Next slide please...
leirbagflow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Decimate used to mean 'to destroy one tenth of an army', but now it's come to mean the opposite. The house was decimated = ~90%+ destroyed.
sethrogenssausage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Windows have been electric for a while
gMoneytz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"logging on" to the internet to "surf the web".
leb111 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a term but the disc icon to save a file is pretty cool
lme1125 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:46:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHanging upโ the phone
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:06:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nimrod used to mean a valiant hunter, after a man in the bible. Until Bugs bunny used it sarcastically against Elmer Fudd and now it basisly means idiot
far_outtahere ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:09:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you were going to mention the album by Green Day. Iโm disappointed.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:52:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Based on that new Apple commercial I've been seeing. I'm going to guess "Computer" is slowly being forgotten.
rarrimali0n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey kid ima computa
Pragmatic_Ideation ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:53:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling someone a "pussy" isn't vulgar, though that is the generally understood meaning.
Pussy is shortened form of the word "pusillanimous", meaning cowardly or weak.
mitosis799 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:16:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Dial this number.
ViolentEdWhoopWhoop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:32:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See you on Buzzfeed in 3 days
iambarrelrider ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โDropping dimes.โ To snitch on a person. A person would go to a phone booth and make an anonymous call to the papers or police.
tenchichrono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought dropping dimes is when you make great passes in basketball?
iambarrelrider ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phone calls use to only cost 10 cents.
nico1647 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The return key on a QWERTY keyboard
On manual typewriters, the piece of paper you were typing on physically moved horizontally from right to left after each keystroke. Once the "carriage" (the box that held the paper that moves sideways) reached the far right and near the end of the page, a bell would ding indicating you were reaching the limit to which the carriage could move to the left. Once the bell dinged, you would "return" the carriage by pulling a lever on the left side of the carriage, which would both advance the page upwards and physically move the carriage back to the right side, "returning" it to its original position and starting a new line.
saichampa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboard originally comes from horse buggies where the board at the front was to protect the passengers from dirt dashed up by the horses. When cars came about it's where we stuck a lot of the car controls so now it has come to be synonymous with a control panel.
BoxShapedCat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:31:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Threshold. Back when floors were made of thresh they needed to be held down by a plank of wood under doorways. We no longer use thresh, but the name stuck.
bpaps ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the "film industry" we still use lots of terms like "rolling" but nothing is rolling. It's all digital.
ligamentary ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:46:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang upโ became technically obsolete once the landline died.
needmorekarma777 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:56:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you get that "on tape"?
HerderOfNerfs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:57:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CC: Carbon Copy
Elwalther21 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone, I'm sure this one needs no explanation.
WelcomeMachine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used the term pigeon holed in conversation just today. A coworker looked at me like I was retarded.
wanderingwolfe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood is thicker than water.
Left over from an age when we still made blood oaths, and pretty exclusively used incorrectly.
"The blood of the oath is thicker than the water of the womb."
Meaning contractual relationships are actually to e given priority over birth relations.
jylny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, so it's actually completely reversed in meaning? Interesting!
gRizzletheMagi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:45:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*ahem* "glove compartment" or "glove box"
Aurorabeamblast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hit the lights!"
People literally had to hit light in order for it to spread.
howabunga555 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:31:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put some music (a record) on
Spiral__Lifeform ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:24:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Letting the cat out of the bag" refers to the removal of the cat 'o nine tails from its traditional red carrying bag when a sailor needed to be punished
suaveknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
livvysanti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:55:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone
Dickramboner ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:31:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flatscreen TV. Theyโre all flat now.
MyFirstOtherAccount ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:49:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're
iluvstephenhawking ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:45:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a tube tv thrown in the street the other day. I couldn't just say "there's a tv in the street". I had to specify it was a tube tv because it was big and blocky and much more dangerous than a flat screen laying there.
ToxicSteve13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Curved TVs exist
dubyahudi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where?!
CrazyJay10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still important in retro circles (Retro computers, Super Smash Bros Melee, etc).
Also curved monitors are a thing now, so also important to be distinct from them.
timthetollman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about curved TVs?
Ofreo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:27 on December 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually you are thinking of flat panel TV's. Tube TV's used to be curved. CRT monitors as well. Then they started making flat CRT's, and then TV's, that had better clarity, so many people wanted them for computers, because they were usually the smaller sizes. And those old projection TV's. So when you saw an ad for a flat screen, it meant a tube monitor or tv, and flat panel meant what we think of today.
Now you can't buy a tube TV new, that I know of, so the distinction isn't needed. But now many new TV's are curved. I have a 65" Samsung that is curved, but inward, not bowed out in the middle like CRT's.
screenwriterjohn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:35:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Priming the pump. Trump just invented that term though.
RsLarry ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:38:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Now you just push a button.
Turn off the lights, because initially you would turn the lightbulb out of it's socket. Before light switches.
Hang up the phone. Because you use to place a receiver down. Now you just hit the end button.
12lawliet12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I miss the days of angrily slamming the phone down when you got into an argument. Angrily poking the end button just isn't the same. Even with flip phones, you could at least get a satisfying click when you flipped them closed.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:39:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"God bless you" when you sneeze. People used to say it during the the Black Plague because it meant that Death may be on your door step. It was supposed to mean like a "God help you" type of thing.
Taffythecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't know that. Super cool.
otto_gusti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs funny how many different interpretations this one has. My favourite has to be people who thought โgod bless youโ after sneezing was to stop your soul escaping through your nose.
Not sure where I read that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually heard that one too!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:33:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My younger sister asked me why we "taped" shows and didn't just record them.
mdickw ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:45:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fucking Christ, reddit can be a pile of shit these days. Can't people take five minutes to skim through these before posting about windows and save icons and hanging up the motherfucking phone for the hundredth goddamn time?
Hup234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol! You see this kind of knee-jerk replying all the time. Somebody needs to design a bot or something that filters out all the repetitive comments.
frachris87 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:43:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Carbon copy"
BelmontZiimon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:00:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carbon paper is still widely used.
Ulcerlisk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For sure, but in an E-mail, people have started calling "CC" a Courtesy Copy.
anarwhalinspace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yesterday I had to explain to two of my colleagues what CC and BCC mean, and how one should use them.
MusicIsMedicine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to explain this all the time. Also "reply all" vs "reply".
TinuvielsHairCloak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity, what do they mean? I have used the BCC functionality only once because my bossman asked me to. I call CCing "copying" people to emails.
papercranium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carbon Copy and Blind Carbon Copy.
TinuvielsHairCloak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!
EntroperZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's how you Xerox things.
HolyGigi ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:36:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunset and sunrise. Everyone knows the sun doesn't actually sets or rises in the morning, yet we still use the terms.
simple1689 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:02:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look how beautiful the earth spun this morning.
TacticalTruth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sun sets down behind the horizon. And the it rises up over the horizon.
Treborius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunset even refers to the Egyptian deity Set.
CrazyJay10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relativity makes this a murky one. Relative to us, the sun is "falling" below the horizon.
SplitArrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sets and rises in relation to the horizon. This hasn't changed ever.
SammyMhmm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:24:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
yabucek ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:55:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many cars with manual windows are still around though
SammyMhmm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but not enough for it to be relevant in my mind! I mean we arenโt still manufacturing them, and itโs been a long time since we have, so I think itโs an appropriate candidate! What would we call it now with automatic windows? Click down the windows?
astral-mystic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:30:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:55:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Presidential."
TellurideTeddy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:17:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Presidential"
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:20:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โYou sound like a broken record. โ not sure how many people know what that sounds like
bsd8andahalf_1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i cancelled out the downvote. i still have broken records in my stack of 45s.
Munninnu ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:03:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging a software.
AskMeAboutMyStalker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging software is a current, non antiquated thing.
Debugging "a"software has never been a thing
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say "taped" if I've recorded something on the DVR.
Sleepy_Shy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the car window - Modern cars, more often than not, use an electrical mechanism to close/open windows instead of the manual crank older models, and/or basic versions carry.
lc7926 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If youโve ever entered North Carolina from another state, youโve probably seen the โMotorcycles must burn headlightsโ sign, even though headlights havenโt been burned in quite a while.
ziggrrauglurr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:03:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does it means tough?
DieHardJayhawk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up your windowโ
AichSmize ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut/copy/paste. Editing paper documents involved cutting part of the article out with scissors and pasting it in the new location. Paste as in glue, so it would stay there.
caden728 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have not heard anybody minus my English professor use the term "Dank" for anything other than weed. My professor is also surprised by the term "Salty" coming back. She said it used to be something her grandparents would say, now it's coming back
uncle_stinky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
video tape/tape recording
if it is digital, you have a digital capture
TheCenterOfEnnui ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows (on a car).
Aeri73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
half of photoshop : blend, mask, brush, stamp, all of those where darkroom techniques doing those things chemically or physicly, not digital like now.
your car has a dashboard, that used to be on horse carts for protection from mud
your car has tail lights...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling down" the windows.
GrimWillis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tell my wife to "warm up the tubes". Meaning turn on the TV and let those old timey vacuum tubes warm up so we can watch the old boob-tube. Much more like turn on the tv so it can find the video sources we have hooked in. Haven't had a tv with tubes in like 33yrs.
duckdownup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when my dad would take a bad tube out of our TV and send me to the drugstore on my bicycle to buy a new replacement tube. The drugstore had a tube tester to make sure the tube was bad. There used to be at least one TV repair shop in every town and they sometimes sent a repairman to your house to work on the TV.
Boy have things changed.
zpp1213 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. I recognize that cars stillhave this, but it's starting to become the minority.
Infamous_Shinobi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, askreddit has been on nostalgia/retro kick lately. Still good topic though.
catbirb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The movie industry is full of them. Movies themselves are still occasionally called films, or the "film industry". The act of recording something is still called filming. Saying something is "rolling" to mean the recording has begun, even though there is no film reel to roll. Saying we'll "cut" something to mean we'll take it out even though there's no film to physically cut. The list goes on.
tres_chill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once in a while someone will refer to a TV remote as a โclickerโ
LateralThinkerer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dialing" a phone
BadAnimalDrawing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"wind up" the windows... Still kinda relevant since some people still have windows you roll up but for the most part it is powered windows in cars now
tigersticker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not so much a term, but when you take a photo on your phone, usually you hear the sound that an older camera shutter would make.
rihannawoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shall I tape this programme that's on later?
COMRADEBOOTSTRAP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window, in the car
Taffythecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good one.
iamthewitt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say "roll up" or "roll down" the windows in a car. I haven't been in a car without power windows in forever.
WastelandPioneer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:30:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
soccerburn55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The motion to roll down a window. So many cars have automatic everything now.
GabbySays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone seen that Apple commercial for the new Ipad and the little girl is sitting in her backyard playing with it and the neighbor goes, "What are you doing on your computer?" and the girl responds, "What's a computer?" Like wtf? Is the term computer going to be irrelevant?!
Edit: is switched for in
taeg1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of. People just say things like desktop, PC, or laptop instead of saying computer.
GabbySays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me feel old and irrelevant.
xanhudro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You got that on film? FILM
Rustyvulva ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xerox
butlertd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Uppercase" and "lowercase". Remnants from the moveable type days. The "cases" in question were wooden boxes, like this.
satisfied_cubsfan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll down your window"
PhilosopherJack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still around every day and I've long lost my core relevance
JohnnySolid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window (with the manual hand motion)
upat6am ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Are you filming this?"
squintina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"On tape"
Tim18436572 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down.
cisco54 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:47:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taping tv shows.
Miccles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey can you videotape this for me?"
lazrbeam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being grandfathered in.
Remedeux ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting something on film at the skatepark.
marcove3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the windows of the car.
BangGonePostal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One i haven't seen yet I point out all the time is "Roll down your window" when in a car. I know some cars still have rollers on them but it is a dying term.
Eduki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
W38D0C70R ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape this! I want the video.
kurtvonnegutcobaine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling upโ your car window even though we donโt actually roll it up anymore.
Eth605 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cc in an email means carbon copy.
shahjoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" up/down the window
pgc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:34 on December 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very good observation
shahjoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:24 on December 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow
pgc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:03:47 on December 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The trips great so far btw, its hot, its dry, and there's chileans everywhere
Avindair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Learn the ropes. (Referred to new sailors literally learning the ropes on a sailing vessel.)
tekkaman01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove box.
iamnotbillyjoel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'dial' the phone
Bryaxis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down a car window.
Bryaxis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone number.
Hermit527 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
rasputin777 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Dial'. It didn't even really make sense in the 70s with touch tone.
Dial is called that due to actually rotating the rotary dial on an old timey phone.
sockmess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rotary phones was still being produced in the 80s.
rasputin777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure but I can't imagine they were too popular.
uh72amech ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows in your car.
SonovaBench ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked this months ago... no one really answered. Eff you reddit
Annagramophone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videotape, tape as a verb for recording something.
heanthebean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To film something, when all we're doing is pressing a button on a smartphone.
HipGuide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great question.
yourejustababy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upper case and lower case.
i_want_that_boat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "CC," as in, "I'll emailing my boss and I'll CC you." We no longer make carbon copies.
abbib123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a 90's kid and I still say "video tape that" when I mean record.
zenith1959 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even news anchors still say video tape when referring to a video made on a cell phone.
sailwithgrace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fixed used to mean 'make permanent' the opposite was 'temporary, fleeting, or momentary' now fixed is the opposite of broken. It went from 'I choose my courses and they are fixed in the system' to 'I fixed the cabinet'.
PeterGriffinsChin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down
HenryCurtmantle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film, as in let's film this event.
kc2gng ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A trunk. Used to be a box for cargo in the back of the car...
authentic010 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "save button" on windows.. kids these days don't know what a floppy disc drive is.
plipyplop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. I had to explain that to someone.
DarkLunch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people say "clicker" referring to a TV remote (it varies by region what people call it) but remotes actually used to make a click sound the TV would respond to.
ScorpioSamo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stay โtunedโ to this channel.
rainboughost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy
KumaLumaJuma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've gone through the top page of comments and didn't come across CC/BCC: Carbon Copy/Blind Carbon Copy... honestly shocked.
TrippyWentLucio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window
Kuli24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:22:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go buy some lead for your pencils.
kellymcq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up car windows.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up your windows
rutherfordcraze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typing. The term literally refers to 'movable type', the cast metal letters which were used for printing from about 1450 onwards (in the West, anyway). The typecaster would cast the piece for each letter from the same mould (one mould for 'a', one for 'b', etc.) โ so every 'a' would be the of same 'type'.
Similarly the word 'font' comes from 'fount' (pronounced the same), the name given to a complete set of movable type. The fount would be inked, and, when pressed onto paper, would result in its appearance โ its 'face' โ being printed on the page. That, incidentally, is where we get the term 'typeface', meaning the appearance of a specific set of letters. Technically, 'font' only refers to the method of production: formerly metal type, now digital software. Try telling that to Microsoft Word though.
Originally, upper and lower case letters were referred to as 'majuscule' and 'minuscule'. The terms 'upper case' and 'lower case' come from the physical cases in which the fount would be stored. The more easily-accessible lower one would contain minuscule (small) letters, while the upper case was reserved for majuscules (capitals).
This is all a bit of an oversimplification โ the history of type is nebulous and complicated to say the least โ but I hope it was insightful.
luckytaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"honey, did we tape dancing with the stars last night?"
FunkMasterE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but I'm trying to break the habit of double-spacing after a period in a sentence when typing. My typing teacher drilled this into us (like using home row and not looking at your hands or keyboard when you type) but with today's fonts, it is no longer necessary. Dammit!
MrParisShoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtapes
richtestani ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That problematic computer bug referred to actual bugs in a computer.
Adammorgan710 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove box
papapwnage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saying "bless you" when someone sneezes. Drives me crazy i dont want to have to say thank you every time i sneeze, we have know for a long long time there arnt evil spirits leaving the body
Gnometard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:30:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Racist, sexist, fascist
Renmauzuo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower.
If you're into typography, "leading."
The floppy disc icon for saving a file.
IcyHot1331 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically a phrase and still mildly relevant but fading fast: โroll the window downโ
Sierra331 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Extremely interesting topic. Definitely saving this thread.
waxworm123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tinfoil.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Baby gays" used to mean q-tips but now it just means a baby who is very brave and knows who it is as a person.
judo_panda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "save" symbol is a floppy disk.
Namhaid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"track" as a reference to different songs on a record.
Though, "record" hasn't lost its core relevance, contrary to what someone else on this thread has said. After all, songs are still recorded. The format is just different.
octoberyellow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Odd i don't see "cut and paste" in the top responses. Once upon a time in newspapers, if you wanted to move paragraphs in a typed story, you literally cut the story into pieces and took an uncut piece of paper and pasted the paragraphs in the correct order using glue or rubber cement. Ergo, you would "cut and paste" to move paragraphs around.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was asked by my young nephew why I say "ROLL up your window" while in the car. Many cars don't have the little turny-lever thingy any more.
justdontfreakout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind, rewind.
celbertin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
glove compartment / glovebox. IIRC they were used to store driving gloves back in the day.
WITCHFlNDER-GENERAL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grab a pussy
poopcingonthecake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Solid state drive. This comes from hard drive, where there was a spinning disk or drive. Ssd has no actual drive. Also c:\ is commonly referred to as c drive, but again if it's on an ssd, there's no actual drive.
ekkopop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:40:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your windows
artfulpro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cc. On an email stands for carbon copy. I can't seem to find carbon paper for copying handwritten letters for love nor money!
wendyandlisa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โNails on a chalkboard.โ
I feel like most schools use white boards instead of chalkboards.
itsamamaluigi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Referring to your Facebook page as your "wall" is an interesting one. "Post it to my wall" has mostly given way to "Tag me in it," but not entirely.
Facebook no longer has a wall, yet people still use the term pretty often. This is an example of a term that is very recent and yet is obsolete. We'll see if it sticks around for any length of time.
not_n_there ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โrollโ the window down
Taffythecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup
PirateJohn75 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower
FAHQRudy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crews still talk about filming when all we shoot is video now. Also terms like "check the gate" which doesn't mean what it used to mean, "roll sound," "rolling," etc. The tech has changed, but most of the habits haven't.
NoLongerHere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a few good ones on twitter mere hours ago:
source
thatdudetdub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up or down the window
tinybigballs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ the window up.
FrznDadTired ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A phone ringing. Phones actually had a bell at one time.
theskadudeguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:46:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your phone is ringing
oblio76 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a term, but using the circular "roll down your window" motion when you really don't see those windows cranks anymore.
Rohit_Davis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Posting' this question on/to reddit
Zerovarner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear torch is still used in Britian for flashlight
Moon-owl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Itโs always been torch,
Kirbyderby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Carbon Copy or "CC" feature in your email. In the old days there was this special kind of paper called carbon copy and if you placed it under a document while it was being written on, it would essentially make an exact duplicate of that document. The carbon copy was then used to send the same document to multiple people, hence why we say "CC" / carbon copying now in emails.
akatsukizero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
isn't that the blue paper? isn;t that still used today? I mean we still write checks here with Carbon paper.
throway_nonjw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the top of any word processor - the save icon is a floppy disk.
craftking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer.
Used to be a human who was good at math. First used in the 1640s meaning "one who calculates".
plinythemiddleone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Words like stereotype and clichรฉ originated as printing terms. IIRC, a stereotype is a master printing plate used for the mass production of documents, and โclichรฉโ is old-fashioned French onomatopoeia for the sound an ink roller made as it flew across the metal stereotype. Though printing presses and roller printers are still around, theyโre obviously far less common than digital printers, so I suppose these terms have lost their core relevance.
I think the terms uppercase and lowercase are also old printing speak, as majuscule and minuscule letters were kept in boxes at different heights, depending on how frequently theyโd be needed.
daixso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Net Neutrality
kootrell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down your window."
dallken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phoneโ should be kinda dead.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This whole comment section is just one big mind-fuck, holy shit. The internet did good today.
thetransportedman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glovebox! Where else would you put your driving gloves? I don't think there's even an equivalent word or phrase that's not extensively long. "Passenger storage compartment?"
Zebritz92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mix'tape' for an album that's not on a tape like a cassette.
BYUtka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kids all call "Rewind" "Fast-Back"
We have Fast Forward and "Fast Back"
Yes, I laugh at them every time... but it makes sense. Rewind is, as OP noted, no longer relevant. Fast Back makes sense...
dirtknapp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you program the DVR, but say you're "taping" your shows. There used to be actual tapes.
throwawaynerp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carriage Return (Return) on your keyboard. I suppose it still sort of does what it says, but nowadays it might be more appropriate to name it "next line" (although a lot of keyboards now name it "Enter").
crunchthenumbers01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
EmperorGeek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always referred to a TV Remote as a "Clicker"
I'm also old enough to remember the original Remotes.m when you pushed the buttons a metal bar was truck and it made an audible CLICK.
whiteypoints ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you mean the ones that sat on your coffee table and had a wire going all the way to the cable box? good times.
EmperorGeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, my Grandparents had a HUGE TV with a wireless remote. Controls where Channel Up, Volume Up, Power.
Three buttons. Each with what I remember as a 1 inch throw. There were three metal bars inside that I assume we're the antennas. Keep in mind I'm not "Young", so this was a long long time ago!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โScoreโ - originally comes from making an incision
TheRendingStone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nice. Like, we used to score tallies on a board to indicate.. score
SleepyConscience ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mix tape
SoVeryKerry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โYou sound like a broken record.โ
Obscu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hanging up" the phone.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most modern keyboards label the carriage-return key as "Enter" these days, but the label still persists today; even though keyboards do not "return" the carriage head to the beginning left typing position like typewriters of old did.
SitDownComedyGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trunk of a car
In old times cars actually had trunks tied at the back to hold stuff but not anymore but terminology is still same.
PsyMon93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut + paste used to refer to literally cutting and pasting film tape.
lonemonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or cutting and pasting a segment of a printed/paper item for inclusion in a new creation
NicSal14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lousy is a negative adjective used to describe a bad thing or situation. It originally meant infested with lice (singular: louse).
Griffinpowers88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A season of a TV show is still often referred to as a โboxsetโ even when itโs being streamed.
dawg_eat_dog_world ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy
DanceFighter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spit out my coffee - funny and true. One of the best one word replies in a long time!
dawg_eat_dog_world ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term per se but children born in the 2000's will never know what the Save icon is.
___Aum___ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Public servant my ass
InterruptedI ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pissed I am so late for this but "Running the Gamut" or as some would say "Gambit".
In Medieval music, a gamut is a scale of notes. Due to the lack of paper and whatnot back then, people had to come up with pretty unconventional ways to remember and teach things. Enter Guido of Arezzo.
Now he was a musical theorist who came up mnemonic device using the different parts of the hand to represent different notes. This "Guidonian Hand" as it was called would be used to instruct singers on which notes were to be sung based on the position of the fingers and joints which represented hexachords.
So essentially "running the gamut" just means running the musical scales.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term Broadcasting. Now used in media was originally a term for agricultural means. You would originally broadcast seeds over your land.
douganater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment. Used on steam trains for shovelling coal.
NOT FOR DRIVING TED. LISTEN TO LILLY
baker2015 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" you used to hang up a telephone back onto the receiver, but now you just tap the screen.
DivaJanelle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does "cranking the engine" still count?
lonemonk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless it is electric, engines still 'Crank'
Unlikelylikelyhood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Can you please tape it for me?"
justbrowsing151 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
metaldesign32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phoneโ
sprucay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The floppy disc as a save icon
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Sammy1Am ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And "terrific" inspired terror.
arcxjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Terrible", as in "Ivan the", is similar.
Ketmandu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone
strack94 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought about this a lot. In Film, people use the original industry standard terms for everything. Even though most of the industry has gone digital, people still use terms that date back to actual film. Things like โRolling!โ or โPrint that!โ can be heard constantly. Somethings just never change because they donโt have to.
jimmyjone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunrise/sunset. We've known better for centuries.
AnimeLord1016 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bookmark. Think about it. I'm sure most people using the phrase are talking about digital bookmarks.
Refrith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. People nowadays use a button to end a call.
Sardonnicus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I filmed something with my iPhone or "digital device."
Minecraftfinn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Photoshopping terms like "crop" "burn" "dodge" and many other were taught in my dark room photography class
McCoovy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'rewind' hasn't lost its core relevance, it has lost its original meaning.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ
pillmans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
Opiumoptimistic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โroll down the windowโ
Voyager5555 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind
darthowen77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film, it's all digital now
SwggrBck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
caffeine_lights ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FYI, just in case nobody has mentioned this in the other 7,000 comments I cannot bring myself to scan through, the term for this kind of word (and also for items which retain the appearance/form of something for recognition's sake when the original reason for it being that shape is obsolete) is skeumorph.
ChiefParzival ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are called "Dead Metaphors"
BibliosaurusLex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Broadcast" was originally a term about how seeds were sown in the field. Instead of being sown in rows, they would be widely strewn about the field.
ricpinto79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but the floppy disk image/thumbnail is used to save and is commonly known amongst youngsters for that... Most people these days have know idea how awesome floppy disks were.
despicablehumanoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clicking on something on a screen.
Almost everyone uses smart phones or touchpads now but still refers to interacting with things via a 'click'.
Hitogoroshi80 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but the 3.5" floppy disk as a save icon.
GingerSnapBiscuit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in tech support. I've caught myself telling sites I am "going to connect to your PC to fix an issue, give me a minute while I dial on".
65edaf517 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" the windows down. No hand cranks anymore!
Tasgall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Pull out all the stops", usually used in a, "don't hold anything back" sense, originally came from when an organist would pull all the little handles (stops) by the organ keyboards (manuals) to activate different ranks and sets of pipes.
Pulling all the stops would activate all the pipes, giving the loudest and most intense sound you can make with that organ.
huntersam13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hang up" the phone, "crank" the car
bert93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm late to this but i'm gonna say mixtape, people still make them but they're not tapes.
miki_eitsu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the window.โ
I remember when I was really little, they used to have the cranks on the insides of the doors to open and close windows in cars.
poaks4twenny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Balls to the wall" - originally had something to do with the engine room of the ship you were on. I don't recall the specific names, but apparently feeding the ship more coal caused the engine to work faster, thus spinning a piece of metal that was weighted with two balls on the end. The faster the ship went, the further out these pieces of metal would extend , thus the phrase balls to the wall.
"Ok" originally was military code for "zero kills" with respect to allied troops and was considered good news.
reptiliandude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:53:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same reason the term โatomโ is still used even though technically it means โindivisible.โ
llabtun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down
Lurker220 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
SquishyIshie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone.
kl0wny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tape
1nk3d ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โAre you taping this?โ
discg0lfer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that "Under the Weather" was originally used in reference to somebody who was seasick. The rocking motion of the boat was relatively less if you went below deck to the bottom of the ship. Hence if you were sick you were considered to be "under the weather" because if you were below deck you were out of the elements.
pandy32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still call a remote control a converter and when something is recorded on the pvr, I call it taped.
dollopofwallop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having to actually roll down the window in a car is increasingly rare
Gustaviaable ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
xofix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The little floppy dick icon to save files.
plazman30 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people still say "Turn the channel" or "Turn the TV off" when there was an actual knob you turned to change channels. And the volume knob was turn to left till it clicked to "turn off" the TV or vice versa to "turn on" the TV.
Chrisrus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Werewolf". The Old English word for "man" was "were".
woodowl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Werewolf!" "There wolf"
PerroNuclear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
-Lumos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:10:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
''shooting'' a movie.
warbeats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I watch a lot of 1st amendment audit vids and a lot of people say "Stop filming me!"
snoogins355 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save button in microsoft office software is a floppy disk. No one born after 1993 knows what that is
stoneystone420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows
yaycoasttocoast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer the Manuel system.
GameOfVotes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
hezwat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we still commonly "crucify" people if we give them a very stern public punishment, even though actual crucifixes are very rare due to OSHA.
mylovelyme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Posh: when rich English people went to India for the winter, their ticket was stamped P.O.S.H. meaning Portside Out, Starboard Home. The least sunny sides of the ship.
welniok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
mylovelyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, welnick, youโre a wealth of knowledge. Does this mean it was never used this way? Or that youโre the etymology police?
welniok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:21 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
P.O.S.H. stamped tickets weren't a real thing. Journey to India was so long (at least over 2 weeks one way) that people didn't make reservation for return trips when they were still at home.
Also, it's very unlikely that not a single P.O.S.H. stamped ticket would have not survived to our times - trip to India was a life's trip, people would keep such memorabilia.
The word "posh" probably comes from a gypsy word meaning half-pence from XVII century. Then it changed it's meaning to money -> the thing that costs a lot of money -> someone who can own such things. The story was made up, same goes just SWAG as "secretly we are gay" acronym.
mylovelyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:32 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting! Thanks for the entomology! I appreciate you taking the time to explain. And the bonus w SWAG! Iโm gay, but it isnโt a secret, hahaha!
justking14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rule of thumb
Men used to look for sticks to beat their wife with and would say a good one was the size of their thumb. Too much and they were abusers. Too little and they wouldn't learn their lessons
Now its mostly fists
babyteethstudio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember "dialing" a phone since I was 5
Also, I know it's not a term, but we still use a picture of a floppy disk to symbolize "saving"
kippp3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steam rollers.
LexLuthorJr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try not to giggle, but "boner" used to mean a mistake. If you messed something up, you "made a boner". I think we all know what it refers to these days.
mindtunnel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trunk of a car. Used to be an actual wooden trunk strapped to be back of a automobile.
2stangs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Nose to the grindstone." In old mills, you used your sense of smell to check if you were over-milling the grain (because it would start to burn). You literally had to keep your nose to the grindstone.
Big_Dick_Jones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Copy and paste. When's the last time you pasted anything using actual paste?
IlIIllIIIllIllIllIll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and paste
disgruntled-pigeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most phone call nomenclature.
Ring someone (phones used to have a bell)
Hang up (place the phone handset back on the cradle)
Dial (turn the dial on a rotary phone)
Xjph ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Drive", in the sense of a device for data storage, is actually in progress toward this right now. It originally referred to the physical action of the motor in the device that would drive the disk so that it would spin. (You put a disk in a drive to use it.) Now it's used for all types of storage, which more and more frequently have no moving parts at all.
wrongtim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up a phone
SM60652 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the windows in the car.
jxnfpm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too late to be noticed, but carbon copy.
Carbon paper used to be more regularly used to make a second copy of whatever you were writing. When e-mail messages were sent to someone who wasn't a primary recipient, you were sending them a "carbon copy", or CCing them.
I haven't seen carbon paper regularly used anywhere for a long while, but everyone uses the term CC for including someone as a non-primary recipient on an e-mail.
razzark666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video Footage.
When videos were stored on film the length was measured in feet and the amount of film was referred to as footage.
saranowitz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone number.
Also, telephone icons often looks like the old rotary phones and save icons look like old floppy discs.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
saying bless you after a sneeze
NotJebediahKerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gesundheit
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
donkey shin
eury13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a lot of old-timey railroad holdovers from the steam engine days:
Double header was when two locomotives were needed to pull the cars up a steep grade
Full steam ahead meant opening the throttle to allow the most steam through
On track, off track, side tracked, off the rails, etc...
NotJebediahKerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off track, side tracked, and off the rails describes my life quite well
death-by-paperclip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for graphic designers, "leading" between lines of text. pronounced like the metal, today means "the amount of blank space between lines of text" but back in the day of type setting, it meant how much lead was placed to separate lines of text.
EmoteFromBelandCity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down!
dphung ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down/up
daklew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dodge and burn in photoshop, the terms were used in the darkroom where you would add more or less light on part of a photo but adobe brought the terms to modern photoshop
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. Now we just end the call.
sixthreetwo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man...I'm really not smart because I read rewind as re-wind and thought you were talking about some antiquated term that had to do with refilling hot air balloons or zeppelins! Haha!
confusedash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video tape.
kidcoins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video tape
MildBanana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โClickโ , yes thereโs still mice and computers, but I say click all the time in reference to smart phones. Iโm not clicking anything...
ThePillThePatch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting the 411 on something. Back in the day, we would call 411 (or "information") if we needed a phone number and didn't have a phone book. There was a small fee per call.
Having someone on "speed dial." Better-model house phones had a few buttons that would allow you to save important numbers that you presumably used a lot.
Evostance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uppercase and Lowercase.
Found out this evening they come from the old printing presses where the capital letters were in the Upper 'Case'. The cases were literally stacked cases of letters
tribaltrak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Play the tape all the way through"
Bb21297 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
โHang up the phone.โ
โDialing a phone number.โ
Eppikfinn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The basic definition still stands, the younger generation saw the older generations using it, and adopted it.
bacchic_ritual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window.
Dirty-Freakin-Dan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe gas pedal someday
assumenothing51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang Up the phone.
worldcitizencane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(sounding like a) broken record. From the vinyl times, which I guess is becoming popular among hipsters again so perhaps still relevant.
10lbs_of_foreskin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vinyl outsales cds, not only hipsters buy them
AllPraze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. Where do I hang my android exactly?
minuhmuhlysm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ referred to the hand crank of some carsโ windows. Now with electric cars and automated windows, its no longer necessary but still used.
sar231 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down.
redkarter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:47:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down.
As if we still use hand cranks in most cars these days.
primoslate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows.
Dranharelo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Scrolling through texts" is my favorite phrase because between the age of clerical monks and smartphones it was pretty much useless.
Arie_Baller_10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ
oh_jaimito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"phone home"
we phone everywhere but home
Cuyler1377 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soon "hang up the phone" will be one of those, probably.
XxRollTide68xX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window even though almost all newer cars have buttons
Arie_Baller_10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โTurn the channelโ
Flippindewd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turning on a light switch. Lights used to be controlled by a dial you would turn. Now itโs just a switch, but the term stuck.
pleasebequietkaren ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Firearm! Makes sense where the name comes from, not really relevant now tho
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always hated it when people didn't rewind their DVDs.
coochiegoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blinkers
The_Honest_Owl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term punch out when youโre at work. Maybe itโs just me but every job Iโve had, you โpunch inโ or out in an electronic device.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Avander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the reference frame
mike_the_milkman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down/up the window. I used to have a friend who would point this out every fucking time I said it. "You mean click it down???"
PlankWithANailIn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Backhander.
This was originally from the custom of paying lawyers that represented you at court what you could afford to pay, they had a pocket in the backs of their gowns that you put your payment in. The idea was that because they didn't know how much you paid them they wouldn't be biased in the amount of effort they put in to representing you.
N02AJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
timeforstretchpants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:54:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"you sound like a broken record" I said, only later realizing I have no idea how a broken record sounds. I imagine it should just sound like silence...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A broken record will repeat a certain part of the track over and over again, which is why someone who repeats themselves is called a "broken record."
taifoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind down the window in a car.
Like_a_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Done and dusted. When writing with ink you used to put special powder / dust over the document to soak up excess ink.
ColtAzayaka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally cannot think of an example.
Demistr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows wasnt always operating system. It was a term for hole in your house filled with glass.
Trollstack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
Bravener ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To "get something on tape" when people take digital video.
Gizzard_of_Oz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Did you get that on tape?"
SlowRexx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Covfefe
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is how all words develop.
pk666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With the advent of digital radio listening to the 'wireless' has come full circle.
tr3vorw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When in a car, saying, โRoll up the windows.โ
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the Windows. My windows don't have curtains in them. I don't have a stage coach.
Vittra666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
Carquinez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower
Damarar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must save this thread
BeardandPigtails ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gas pedal in a Tesla.
WeTrudgeOn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape, as in "I hope you got that on tape!" Nope, sorry I didn't.
Angry_Sapphic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Punching in." Closest i've come to that was when I had to take a "class" (aka do free work selling food) and the world's loudest goddamn automatic stamper had to stamp my bigass cardstock sheet when I started and ended my shift. That was in ~'14
banjohusky95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Real McCoy
The actual Real McCoy talks about the McCoy automatic oiler on steam engines. The oiler had a lot of knock offs and look alikes for it. But, the McCoy oiler was always the best. Thus, leading to the real McCoy.
TheMighty200 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:31:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well, a: that's not verifiable, and b: that's an idiom not a verbal skeuomorph.
banjohusky95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who has worked on steam engines, restoring rolling stock, and is a historian. I think I can properly verify it. Google it if you dont believe me. And it's a phrase.
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did google it and wikipedia lists several possible origins. Its fine if your partial to the train related one, it's just that i know there are other possibilities.
SerScronzarelli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window. Bitch there ainโt no cranks no more!
TheMighty200 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:21:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but the window is still being rolled down, just by an electric motor.
SerScronzarelli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is nothing rolling action as if when there was an actual crank.
ablebaker9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time to replace horsepower?
Forcedcontainment ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wireless. My battery powered electric razor is wireless but we don't call it a "wireless razor." Calling something wireless is like calling a car a "horseless carriage."
ColHaberdasher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window" - new cars don't have manual cranks to "roll" down the car windows.
freelittyta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Akin to rewind, I still hear people asking to have shows 'taped' for them.
Meowzahar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not much of a fan of wine, so I remember my ship sides like this: port and left both have 4 letters; right and starboard both have more than 4 letters.
Really cool post though. I learned many things.
Gullyvuhr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say "roll the windows down" in the car and "dial a phone number".
fruitcakee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down your window"
xcarex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My windows still have cranks, haha.
hoss103 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Balls out" used to refer to the mechanical speed governor on steam engines, in which the weights (balls) would be flung outward the faster the steam engine ran.
"Balls to the wall" originally meant full throttle in old multi-engine airplanes. The balls were the throttle handles which were pushed all the way forward against the instrument panel.
magnummentula ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Giving something "the axe".
Referring to killing someone by beheading, I miss the days...
marjerbar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pound sign
UberBostonDriver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A person who sounds like a "broken record".
FiRe_GeNDo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The most interesting thing about this thread, is all the use of these words that still exists from their practical uses back in the day shows how learning English as a language actually makes no sense as half the words are based on what used to happen but are no said for other things.
How the language will change in the next 20 years will be so complex as slang words of slang words of slang words will then be normal speak. All referring to a use of a word in ancient modern English
ContainsTracesOfLies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favourite is 'noon'. It's such a good useful word to use for midday but it wasn't always the case.
Noon comes from the Latin 'nona' meaning 9. Noon was the nineth hour of the Roman day which was measured only daylight hours. The sun comes up at around 6am would place noon at around 3pm.
The church, very Latin focused, would conduct prayers at this time and were known as noon payers. Over time these payers moved to midday and with them so did their name. Noon payers lead to midday being known a noon.
TL;DR Noon meant 9, which was 3pm and is now 12:00 midday
monsters_Cookie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say " roll the window down" my kids say " turn the window down" but that's clearly wrong.
sellursoul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"i'll just tape it and watch it later". My coworker says this all the time when referring to DVRing his shows.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freelance. Referred to a knight without a lord, hence a "free lance" or lance for hire, as a knight's primary use on the battlefield was as heavy cavalry with a lance.
tL1ght ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine calls โtime outโ during every day conversations and I always have to tell her there is no time out.
ronenvelarde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, does she make the hand gesture as well? I think I'd end out friendship for that.
tL1ght ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes yes, depends on the situation and how much alcohol has been drank
Vegetta99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you guys aloud to challenge calls?
tL1ght ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always have and always will
Cherrytop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โIโll fax it over in two minutes.โ
murrieta123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what, who says that?
Cherrytop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me. :(
slane421 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similarly, but talking about taping things, having something taped, having tapes, with reference to digital recordings. It actually really irrationally iritates me
notmyrealname86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't the only one.
Bobbich_89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A more recent one is the floppy disc icon for saving things. It's completely out of date and people now know it as the save icon and don't know what a floppy disc is. I know this as I have to train people to use a hospital computer system
Brachamul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Breakfast ! You probably weren't really fasting, were you ?
Willtolivenotfound ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videotaping
Moidah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spreadsheet.
They used to be paper, and very large to hold all the entries.
So you had to spread them.
Wizzmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the car window. In fact we still use the motion to ask someone to roll it down.
uspeoples ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hang up the phone" and using the "clicker" both come to mind.
bahamanana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video tape. My boyfriend will give me his phone so I can video tape him skating.
Paragonbliss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Decimation
EmielSteerneman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer bug. The first computer bug referred to an actual bug that short circuited one of the components of the computer.
JackGlinsky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. There used to be a crank to lower windows. I wasnโt even alive during that time.
noerrorsfound ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:51:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cars still come with manual windows, so are you telling me you haven't even been born!?
JackGlinsky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, no cars that I know of or have seen
universallybanned ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
Totalnah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about โhang upโ? You used to have to physically place a phone receiver on the disconnect lever to end a call. Now you just press a button.
Tired_Thumb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My phone has been ringing off the hook. Phones don't have hooks any more.
CrazyPaws ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save icon on office and other programs is a 3.5 inch floppy drive.
Bizrrr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Representative Official
basquenv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this counts or not because it is actually the inverse of the question posted: my daughter, she was 7, I was 43 at the time, says โlet me see your flashlightโ. Me: โI donโt have a flashlightโ Daughter: โyes you do, itโs on your phoneโ. I think she lost a bit of confidence in me that day. BTW, is it even a phone anymore, or do we all have a micro-computer that has the ability to send/receive calls? I hate calling anyone because they might actually answer the damned thing.
Kortalh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personally, I very rarely use the telephone app on my Android.
YouRebelScumGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The โCha-chingโ onomatopoeia. The machine that made the sound is nearly non-existent unless you stop at a few gas stations in rural areas.
pbzen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "saved by the bell" was originally used for bells above the buried dead. It used to be hard to determine if people were indeed dead, and mistakes were made, so inventors came up with an idea to connect the inside of the coffin with a tube. If the person, in fact, woke up buried alive then he/she could yank on the string and ring the bell and be saved. I learned this on the first episode of 'Lore' and I'm pretty sure nobody does this anymore.
ffzero58 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtape.
I still get offered one when I walk around the city.
naptastic1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"taping a tv show" nobody has VCR's.
everfordphoto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a phone number. We don't have dials anymore.
Jabari313 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videotape
Retrograde_Lectin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording video with cell phone and calling it taping.
kbrad12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape - to tape a tv show or movie
kimmykam-28 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taping, as in taping a show.
Coordination_nation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watching film is a pretty common sports term. Not film though.
AMLRoss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Japan, kids still say "Cart" (cartridge) when referring to game storage media. (even when its actually a disc).
daydr33mer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:02:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got it on โtapeโ when using a digital camera.
Thundershaft69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always loved that the save icon is a floppy disk. I use 'em for coasters now.
4kitall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vetting. The term was originally used by the horse industry as inspection of a horse by the vet before purchasing.
justmirsk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This may have been said already, but threshold comes to mind. We no longer have thresh on the floors that needs to be kept in place.
Velvis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone said car windows yet? Or taping something? WTF people, why not peruse the comments a little before being the 400th person to say "roll down the windows"
cornbilly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"dial" the phone.
llewkeller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite applicable I guess - but my understanding is that "freeways" on the West Coast got that name because "expressways" on the East Coast were often toll roads, while in the west, they were 'free'...except over major bridges.
Prometheus720 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Scroll" as a verb originally refers to rolling a scroll around two pins as you read it continuously.
"Love" in tennis, which means a score of 0, likely comes from the French "l'ลuf" which means "the egg." Just like how we call a score of 0 a "goose egg" in more modern English.
PhilxBefore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up or down your car window.
franktehtoad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a phone number.
dinghead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being "in the groove" which meant your record player stylus was properly in the LP groove. 33 1/3 rpm....!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hipster (1940s subculture), referring to aficionados of jazz, in particular bebop, which became popular in the early 1940s.
mcarterphoto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videographer. Clients or subjects always say "are you taping this?" No, I'm carding it...
A_Used_American ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard English people still call flashlights torches. I find it kind of quaint =)
Justagreewithme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:16:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โTurn on the tvโ. Tvs donโt have dials that you turn anymore. It applies to a lot of things that are turned on.
electi0neering ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHit the headโ means to go to the bathroom, From the times of old ships people did their business right off the bowsprit right on the figure head. Think pirate ships. This might be my favorite topic.
scherlock79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "save" icon for most applications is still a 3.5" floppy disk, I haven't seen one of those for at least 15 years. My kids have no idea what it represents.
Rynneer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You sound like a broken record" and "Hold your horses" come to mind
LilacEtoile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
Roll down/up the car windows.
Getting something on tape. Like recording something on a phone.
meow_mom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slamming down the phone on someone. Pushing the end call button just isn't satisfying especially when you're pissed off.
connectalllthedots ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a broken record.
DruidOfFail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โI got it on tapeโ when recording a video on your phone.
cheeseburgerwaffles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youtube video of some total fail. Camera guy yells "i got that on tape!"
... no... you used a phone
AcurianHope ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape that show...
SicWik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say clicker, my great grandparents said it, and so did my grandparents so it's still ingrained in my brain
AcedVentura ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Answering machine
I still hear โI left a message on your answering machine โ
all4gibs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โroll up the windowโ
SD_Guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tablet
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Suspenders used to be called 'braces'. Nowadays, braces refer to the things dentists fix to your teeth.
zyphlox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and Paste. Before computer word processing people would physically cut and paste (glue) portions of text to edit manuscripts as it saved having to re-type whole sections.
hapkiman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial. As in dial a phone number.
milerky2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just thinking about this today... get out of my head hivemind!
comfy_socks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are two terms we still use today that originate from medieval millers who would grind flour from grain. Rule of Thumb used to refer to how you would check the coarseness of the flour you were grinding, by rubbing it with your fingers.
And other one is Grind to a Halt, from when mills were wind powered, and the wind would stop blowing, the stone would grind to a halt.
Jaiyk79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down. (When in the car.)
autistofkek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MAGA
jessbrofriendly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "rule of thumb"-It is often claimed that the term rule of thumb is derived from a law that limited the maximum thickness of a stick with which it was permissible for a man to beat his wife
DriftwoodKingdom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didnt pan out. Not like weโre panning for gold much these days
Wierd657 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put the lights out, as if they are still candles/flames.
Turn on. Sorta kinda still perfectly relevant but TVs don't have dials or switches to turn them on. Other things of course still do. However with new cars, they're push button. There's no key to turn, no engine to turn over or crank. Going back farther, the electric starter replaced the hand crank to turn or crank the engine over.
SonofKeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
ButterBridge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CC'ing into emails refers to 'carbon copy', a process that's still used in some places to get multiple copies of a paper form just by pressing hard enough on the top sheet.
florinandrei ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The examples must be very numerous. Here's one of my favorites - a harrowing experience.
The harrow is an agricultural implement consisting of many spikes, tines or discs dragged across the soil. Needless to say, if you happen to be in its path, you'd have a very bad day.
https://i.imgur.com/KrJikto.jpg
Mallardx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ice box
JohanMcdougal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone number, coming from the use of an actual rotary dial. Ain't nobody doin dat no mo.
Superjuyis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typing.... its called โKeyboardingโ now
chintu3003 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Pickup the phone" and "put the phone down"
Phillip_Unya ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YouTube. Televisions used to need vacuum tubes for operation.
simplemerv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Taping" ie recording something with your phone
greenrebate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:53:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
mysty_ryth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:53:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down, most vehicles now don't use the handle to physically roll the window down.
CamaroNoir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please cc me on that e-mail.
cc means carbon copy - a copy of written or typed material made with carbon paper.
seiyonoryuu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought we just said fwd now
pirateninjamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of, but the cc was originally put on emails when it was a comparison and didnt really apply.
CamaroNoir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt understand.
pirateninjamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You never actually had carbon email copies.
CamaroNoir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Riiiiiiight. Thatโs why I submitted this as an example of something thatโs lost itโs core relevance. We used to actually cc each other prior to e-mail. Then we switched to e-mail but, kept using cc even though it was no longer relevant.
Thank you for correcting me.
pirateninjamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't getting it so nevermind.
Mooksayshigh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To tape something with your phone/video camera. No one uses tapes anymore.
dBRenekton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the window down"
You don't roll them anymore. Now it's a button.
WryBones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower.
When the term first came to use, describing the power of a steam engine with how many horses it could replace was a valid marketing strategy and an analogy pretty much anybody could understand.
Nowadays, not so much.
rad2themax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me, I was showing my kindergarten class an extreme dominoes video today (their reward for a good day) and at the end they rewinded the video and it all played in reverse. And blew their damn minds. They couldn't figure out what rewinding was or how it worked. It was magic.
scothc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 8 year old told me I needed to let the CD buffer because it was skipping (it was scratched)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was โtaped.โ
gurkdjur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Photoshop, the shadow and highlighting tools do the exact opposite to what they say: the highlight tool darkens and the shadow tool lightens. I think it can be traced back to the days of polaroid.
xSTSxZerglingOne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"tape it"
"don't touch that dial"
"roll it"
"That's a wrap"
"film" at least most of the time.
I'll edit as I think of more.
TheyCallMeBigD11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollingโ down the window.
โTurningโ up the TV
โHang upโ the phone
joshhorton32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I scrolled way too far looking for "Roll" down the window. I'm disappointed.
adastraperaspera9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone.
itchman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll up the windows.
jakeroxs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows, back when it was an actual turn crank. My first car had them :P
lumberjack_jeff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"dial" and "hang up" a phone.
kelaar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โWatch the tubeโ for when the tv was made with a cathode ray tube, though anymore I only hear people my grandparents age using it, although my parents did use it when I was young.
launchpad59 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:54:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youtube
IchIdiotInMeinerEile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Christian values" by the GOP.
Hebrewsuperman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save icon is still a floppy disk.
Jerrywelfare ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtape
bguy74 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the things we see on a "monitor" aren't "monitoring" anything - they aren't seeing a real thing, they are seeing things that are generated by a computer. The word "display" is an accurate attempt, but "Monitor" is widely utilized.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"click this link" when referring to a link on smartphones (that don't have mice).
Videgraphaphizer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't touch that dial!
faithalor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, my family and I haven't used "rewind" since VCRs. Ever since DVDs came out weve been saying "back it up" or "go back 10 seconds" etc. Especially now that everything we watch is downloaded or streamed... we haven't even bought a DVD in over a decade.
mykilososa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democrat.....republican.....
gloria_monday ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Raising your right hand when being sworn in in court.
Back in the day, establishing one's identity (and thus one's criminal record) wasn't easy. Therefore courts would brand convicts on their right hand with a marker of their crime. Suspects would be asked to raise their right hand so the judge could inspect their criminal record.
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BenedickCabbagepatch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"To get one's wires crossed" dates from when, if you used a telephone, you'd be connected to an operator who'd connect you by physically plugging wires into a switchboard. If you got put on a line with the wrong person, it meant the wires had been mixed up or crossed.
Mheft95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nickelodeon
Hankster15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone number
Krinks1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Half-cocked: originally for flintlock weapons. You would pull back the hammer and get a click...then pull further and get a second click. If you only cocked the hammer half way, it wouldn't be enough to fire the weapon.
Going off half cocked means you do something only half prepared and it would fail.
Flash in the pan: Flintlock weapons had a pan that contains powder that was ignited by the spark from the flint. That powder would then set off the charge in the weapon and fire the ball.
When the ignition failed to set off the charge, you'd get a small flash and smoke, but nothing else.
Now it means something that causes a lot of fuss, but doesn't last or make any significant impact.
Allegiance10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the car windows.
richeeb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CC, as in "carbon copy", which refers to carbon paper. Not my of it around these days. And it's equally inane variant, BBC, for "blind carbon copy".
Bisexual-Bop-It ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Caps lock comes from typewriters literally having a button that would lock the shift key down, locking everything into all caps form.
istarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are older keyboards where the caps lock key does lock down.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up your window" most people have newer cars and all you do is press the button, and the window goes back up :')
Jakpow1991 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows... I know there are still a lot of manual windows but even if it's electric you'll still say "roll the windows down/up"
TheFamousSamWise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โKeep your nose to the grindstoneโ. Pretty old but still neat. Two mill stones would be rotated opposite one another to grind wheat between them. The resulting flower from the grinding is not only the product but also the โlubricantโ for the two stones. If there isnโt enough flour between stones, or if the stones are too close the stones could cause a spark (flour powder can be explosive). To prevent an explosion or fire, the mill worker would regularly have to get his nose down near where the stones meet to smell for something burning.
AFistfulOfSilence ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT people who donโt know that pushing the button to roll up a window is still rolling up the window.
Just because there isnโt a crank to do it manually doesnโt mean the mechanism changed. Hell some cars have a cap over the location that you can take off to see a motor that spins in the same way that manual window cranks spin.
rarrimali0n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you.
compacto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love you
blue_27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:16:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most things to do with a phone.
I know those phrases are all vestigial from when phones actually had those things, but most people don't remember the long, long ago; and even fewer people still have or use these devices.
lordhavepercy99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally used to mean something that is actually happening but now it's more a way of expressing emphasis or strong feeling for something
grilld-cheez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. I met a 14 year that had no clue why we say roll.
StinkyPickle27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
ViolentEdWhoopWhoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filming somethin with your phone. Theres no film in your phone.
dtxfree5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down.....
Sioswing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Silverware is called silverware even though a majority of silverware isnโt made of silver
LHOOQatme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but an universally understood symbol. The floppy diskette meaning โsaveโ.
dante662 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone
xGibs99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window of a car. People still make the motion too.
xZora ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:12:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always used to call our TV remote a 'clicker' because the buttons were audible, not so much anymore.
rarrimali0n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Growing up we did too.
dukerustfield ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is an idiom but pull out all the stops comes from pipe organs. Stops dampen the sound level. If you pull the valves and open them all the organ will be as loud as it can be. Which for a pipe organ tends to be loud enough to deafen a church congregation
Frankengregor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I taped a video or song
Shadrach77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phone.
2% of my battery usage in the last week was for the actual phone functionality of this device I have in my hand.
ThrindellOblinity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Threshold" - originally a barrier placed across the sill of a barn door to stop the threshed grain from falling out (literally "holding the thresh")
PQ858 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boob tube... no more tubes in the TV
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โI got it on tapeโ
superrosie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turbo. Last time I checked there we no turbines inside my Internet connection, CPU or anything else with a 'go faster' feature.
Kurisuchein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh neat. Never connected "turbine" and "turbo" together before.
quick_dry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It comes from "turbocharger", which people would be familiar with from cars
superrosie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turbo is a genus of sea snails from the Cretaceous period that predates the supercharger by 100 million years. So uh, petty sure that's the Turbo everyone talks about.
quick_dry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for sure ;) that's why turbocharger housings look like (and sometimes get called) "snails".
gimmethatgushystuff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
MinzAssiz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you're in the car and you tell someone, or are asked to "roll up the window"
toadiusmaximus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone....
cmndrcrunch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save icon being a floppy disk
spazlam990 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up or down the window. Most cars have buttons to put windows up.
mdickw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but the core mechanism is still rolling. It's just a motor doing the rolling instead of your hand.
TerraAdAstra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say โtapeโ things when I mean take a video.
bradtwo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll up your windows . there is no rolling involved anymore.
Rakhered ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People from Wisconsin use the word "bubbler" (eeugh) for drinking fountains because of a now-defunct model of drinking fountain called the Bubbler
weezin_ed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial the phone
ladykatey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Below the fold" for less prominent front page news stories hidden when the paper was folded in half. "Galley Proof" for the first proof of a book for the authors final edits- in the days of metal type, a few sets of prints could be quickly made by hand with the type on metal "galley trays" instead of setting up the big production press.
bpaps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you "CC" someone in am email, you don't actually make a carbon copy, but the name still sticks.
wiseguy_86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โComputer Bugโ or "bug in the system" used to mean literal bugs were inside the machine back in the days when computer's had vacuum tubes and moving parts!
shishikabuto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pussy (as in, don't be a pussy). Most people today assume it a derogatory connection to female genitalia, but it's not. The word far predates the modern slang use. In fact, there's no clear origin for what the term originally meant. There are three or four possible origins, but none of them are sexual or gendered insults. I'm lazy, so I'll just post a link to where someone else already made a great, succinct list. https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/100990/how-does-pussy-come-to-mean-coward
MrAshh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โPulling out all the stopsโ
Itโs a term from music, pipe organs to be precise. Organs have stops, everytime you pull out a stop, it will turn on a new set of sounds. When you pull out all the stops, you will hear all the available sounds at once, making it really loud.
Shane7678 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the Windowsโ
Chelseaofsirens ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These have probably been mentioned but...
Hanging up the phone by placing it back on the reciever.
Having to manually roll up the car windows. I told my daughter to roll the window up and she had no idea what I meant.
Hup234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, you're the first.
klaehsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canโt believe I havenโt seen it on here yet (maybe I havenโt gone down far enough) but to โroll down a windowโ in a car. Cars not have electric windows and donโt have to be โrolled downโ by hand
cj9jones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Stay tuned for the next episode!" from radio shows where you actually had to tune your radio to different channels using a knob.
Finfunfin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
President?
scottyghost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows.
Most cars nowadays have electric windows
Crackmacs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stay tuned.
os2mac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really word or term but it's related to the sort of Anachronism you are discussing and it's a fun story so here goes:
The Space Shuttle Story:
Back when the Space Shuttle was being designed NASA's had the idea of spreading the manufacturing wealth around to a lot of companies. This is not really a new idea, it's done in DoD procurement quite often to stave off potential cuts by Congress. Nobody will cut a program that causes job losses in their own district.
The job of manufacturing the Solid Rocket Boosters was given to a small firm in Utah. Now the most convenient way for this company to ship the completed boosters to NASA was via railroad. Unfortunately the closest rail line had tunnels on the route leaving town so the design of the rocket boosters was limited by width the of the tunnels.
Here's where it get's interesting. The width of those tunnels was determined by the average width of rail car. The width of the rail car was in turn determined by the width of the tracks. The width of the tracks was determined by the width of wagon wheel ruts. The width of a wagon was determined by the width of two horses.
So therefore, the worlds first reusable space craft was in a small part designed to the specification of the width of two horses asses.
Fini.
TokyoCalling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well reference some time terms.
September, October, November, and December should, of course, be the seventh, eighth, ninth, and tenth months of the year. As they were originally. Their core relevance lost because we tossed in a couple of extra months and rather than put them in at the end of the calendar, we put them at the beginning and didn't bother renaming anything. Silly.
That's all right. We'll soon be to January. Most folks won't bother to even consider the core relevance of that name. A few will get it wrong - thinking it has something to do with the two-faced god Janus looking both forward and backward. That would be poetic. The real meaning is more prosaic: the door month.
Most people associate February with Valentine's Day without considering that the month is named for a purification ritual held at that time of year. The ritual, februum, was held on February 15 and given what often happens on February 14, maybe we should still give it some thought.
March comes in like a lion. And how. It was named for the god of War. As was the planet, Mars. I'd wager far more people know about the Mars-Mars connection than the Mars-March connection, though.
April... Well, we're totally screwed on this one. We're not at all sure what the core relevance was. So, yeah, I guess we forgot about it.
May takes her name from a Greek goddess. Probably. Most folks couldn't even tell you what Maia was goddess of.
June for Juno, a Roman goddess this time. Most likely.
July for Julius Cรฆsar - something more than a few people know. Few know that it's the month of his birth. Which was then called Quintilis because it was the fifth month.
August for Augustus. All right, I think most folks know this one. But do they spare a thought for poor old Sextilis which lost its place on the calendar?
Sure, we know that Sunday is named for the sun and most folks can guess that Monday is named for the moon. American Gods fans know that Wednesday is named for Odin (Woden) but often miss that Odin was considered the Germanic Mercury. So the core relevance slides from one god to another.
Which might give you pause over Thursday (Thor's day) and lead you to remember another god of Thunder. Yeah, Thursday at its core is Jupiter's day.
Call her Frigg or Frija or Frea or Frige, she's the namesake of Friday. But, once again, the day is really referencing another goddess: Venus.
All that one deity standing in for another apparently got to be too much. So Saturday really is just plain old Saturn's day.
Finally, we might just want to hold on a moment and wonder how long a moment is. Gets a bit tricky since a moment references a shadow moving across a sundial. But we can give it a nice average length of about 90 modern seconds. A bit longer than most people think they need to wait when they give you a moment.
LoneRangerLong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow.
BubblyTummy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phone.โ Iโm pretty sure my 81 year old grandmother is the only person who still has a phone on a wall with a 30 foot cord so you can pace around the house in comfort.
Jmich96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flat screen TV. CRT's stopped production about 10 years ago... All TV's are flatscreens (in the terms original meaning).
the_great_philouza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the word โcollectโ the โlectโ comes from the latin โligna,โ which means firewood. So every time someone says โcollectโ when talking about something else, like coupons for example, theyโre really saying โdo to coupons what we used to do to firewood.โ
PlasticCardboard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty late to the party but I didn't see it yet so here it is. "Roll down/up the window". Originally was phrased that way since cars had the crank handle to roll down or up the window. Now most people say it but simply press a button
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ down the window. You just push a button now and donโt have to crank it lol
Liv-dangerously ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know I am late, and this may have already been said, but the origin of the term "saved by the bell" was an expression about people being buried alive. The concept of this term is that if someone were mistakenly pronounced dead while unconscious, then they could ring the bell that was attached to their coffin if they awoke.
LoneRangerLong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was a boxing term. One guy was teetering and then got saved when the bell rang to announce the bout has ended by time.
Liv-dangerously ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have always heard of this in regarding being buried alive. There was a mortician that did an AMA and he had also mentioned this term being related to being buried alive. It could definitely have multiple meanings!
freebeertomorrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
Sergerant_Sarcasm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. You no longer have to put the receiver back down, you just press the red button.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carbon copy, cc:
NewMexiColorado ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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die_liebe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cycle.
Orc-N-Beans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Pretty much every car has power windows now.
die_liebe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cycle.
called_the_stig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone, referring to the original 2 piece phones. Edit: reason it's out dated
Ajj360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Big wigs" goes way back, when the upper class wore powdered wigs. "Nit-picking" Is when they would take the wigs in to be cleaned.
small_goose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:09:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carriage return or "return" key on keyboards (from typewriters).
Also the save icon in Microsoft products. It's a picture of a floppy disk!
AUniquePerspective ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None of the lights in my place are actually bulbs anymore but I'm not going to get anywhere asking my spouse to put diodes on the shopping list.
I took my 3 year old to the optometrist and instead of letters the pediatric vision chart has symbols: Bird, hand, horse and rider, jeep, birthday cake but then one of the symbols is a rotary phone. The last time I saw one was about ten years before the kid was born.
simbacole7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling up the window" in reference to car windows. Used to have to "roll" a manual hand crank to get it to move.
_-TheTruth-_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:32:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pulling out all the stops.
When playing the organ, you would pull out all the stops for the biggest, fullest sound.
stickyricky97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:53:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up/down the windowโ
MaggnessC1223 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The phone is ringing off the hook."
Rebreok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always disappointed that no one mentions "dead center" - its a pointed tube that goes on a lathe, and is specifically set up so that it points right smack at the center of the part being turned. Depending on the lathe and operator, these are usually aligned to within 0.0001", or 0.01 mm
LaBoogar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang-up
lavagninogm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:25:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
emericee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:39:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Did you get that on tape?" When recording on a cell phone.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:43:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sunrise" and "sunset" are how we describe what the sun appeared to be doing before we had instruments to improve upon our naked eye observations
vanceco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:52:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Taped" as in- we taped game of thrones to watch later.
disenfranchisedkitty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:00:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the windows in a car
Jakeob22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:26:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget about rolling down the windows...
rabidroger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:02:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rabbit died
Craigihoward ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hang up
veilofmaya1234 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:19:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Save icon is still a floppy disk.
nilok1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:28:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Photoshop has processes that are based on old darkroom (I guess even that term is dated) terms.
For example 'dodge' and 'burn'. It refers to projecting an image onto photosensitive paper and increasing or decreasing the amount of light hitting it. Even the icon for it resembles the old tools used for doing it.
HyFikz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:58:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When someone says tick tock
dryingsocks ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:38:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wall clocks aren't going anywhere imo, and most of those still tick
madepopular ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents have a clock in their guest bedroom that ticks so loudly I have to move it to another room when I stay there.
TenNinetythree ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:12:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The expression "Vinyl scratch"
batty3108 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:17:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up commenting on reddit like this...
BananafishGlass ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:43:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, vinyls are incredibly popular. That one probably still makes sense.
bizitmap ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:40:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "vinyl record scratching to a stop" sound effect is probably going to endure like an audio version of the save icon
"This sound means the fun is coming to an abrupt halt right now"
commiecomrade ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:00:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SOMETHING HUMOROUS WILL IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW THIS SOUND.
jorgito93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:44:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if you are a brony
BetYouCantPMNudes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:45:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typing.
It used to refer to using literal printing presses (like moveable ones in typewriters), but now documents are written on computers
simple1689 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:00:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do I do on my keyboard? "Just sitting here keystroking"
UGMadness ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:58:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah baby stroke those keys mhmmmm
VelvetDreamers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:45:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The distinction of archiving a document to preserve it for it's historical relevance is too often conflated with the term archive used in computers. As technology becomes more pervasive and prominent in our lives, to archive something from a modern perspective is to consolidate many computer files and compress them into one unit.
Fauchard1520 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:10:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling a new character" in MMOs. Ain't nobody generating stats by rolling 3d6 down the line in Azeroth.
Juniebug9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, come on. 4d6 drop the lowest is clearly the more entertaining system.
EvitaPuppy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:26:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not so much a term, but the icon to Save is a picture of a floppy disk. I'm sure the vast majority of people under 35 have never seen any type of floppy disk IRL.
VirtualUnicorns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm 23 and we used floppy disks in elementary school
Fidel-cashflo17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:50:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A computer "bug"
The first bug was literally a bug that crawled into a computers circuitry.
13Zero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Podcast.
iPods have largely been replaced by smartphones, but the term stuck.
poxymoron1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:49:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Er, no, podcast as opposed to broadcast/narrowcast. A sound recording in a 'pod' (i.e. independent container) which can be accessed or downloaded from the internet at will, not reliant on it being 'sent' by any other means. (Source: BBC engineer) *edit: a rogue letter
AncientJ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:21:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Voting
GonnaQuitSmoking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:39:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I love you."
PirateCodingMonkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"posh" comes from when the wealthy would take steamships for vacation purposes. if you were wealthy enough, you would get a room on the port side on the way to your destination (usually the Mediterranean) and starboard side on the way back. this was because the sun would shine on the starboard side on beginning of the journey, heating up the room, and on the port side on the way back. since the ships didn't have air conditioners but they did have heaters, you could heat up a room but you couldn't cool it off. porters would pencil POSH on the luggage tickets meaning, "Port Outbound, Starboard Home" to signify where the patron was staying on the ship. since only the truly wealthy could afford to be that picky about rooms, it became synonymous with wealth - living the posh life.
bigdon199 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
convincing as it sounds, it doesn't appear to be the case https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/explore/what-is-the-origin-of-the-word-posh
Maasterix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a well known myth unfortunately. It was actually first made up about British passengers wanting to see India on the way in and out of Mumbai. Still not true though :D
Steamjunk88 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:20:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A dashboard is the board at the front of a horse drawn carriage that prevents mud from being dashed on the driver
RanaktheGreen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:47:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The saving icon is a floppy disk.
I don't know about you, but I haven't owned a computer that can read floppy disks in about a decade.
xxxassassin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Electrocute = electrical execution
The right word is shock most of the time.
dingdongdingle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bug.
There was a case where a moth got into a Russian computer and started messing stuff up. Tons of people tried to figure out what the problem was and no one could figure it out. It turns out it was a moth inside the computer. They started looking for โbugsโ to debug computers.
Skrap93 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:03:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word โliterallyโ has literally lost its meaning.
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the other day I heard somebody use "low-key" to emphasize a phrase.
otto_gusti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait until you hear โhigh-keyโโyouโre in for a treat.
LHOOQatme ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:03:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bugs (the programming term) referred to actual bugs who would be attracted by the old computersโ heat and subsequently be squished by a closing relay. Its corpse prevented the circuit from closing when needed and resulted in wrong outputs, so some poor bastard had to check and clean the relays regularly.
TheEpicRedCape ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:39:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Floppy disks are still used as an icon for saving data in quite a bit of modern software.
SoftandChewy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:22:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To "watch TV", even though shows from Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc. aren't "on TV".
Im_Lucifer_Not_Evil ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 16:44:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, TV stands for television, so if youโre watching it on a television set, then it is still โon TVโ.
beenthereonce2 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:01:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Television literally means visual stuff that is transmitted from one place to another, so any video material on TV or the Internet is tele-vision. Old word still works for new meaning.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:46:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SoftandChewy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're correct about that. When I said "on TV", I meant that the shows are aired on TV networks, like ABC, NBC, etc. Movies, after they're in theaters, are also showed "on a TV screen", but we don't usually call them TV shows.
Maybe it doesn't quite fit the OPs question, but I think the notion of "watching TV" is going through a bit of a transition.
simple1689 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:54:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What should I call the big box with moving pictures? I thought it was a TV
SoftandChewy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that's true. But don't people say they're "watching TV" even when they're watching it on their computers, or tablets, or phones?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:12:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people say "watching Netflix" or watching and then the show they're watching
Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:05:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yuppity doodles
Dave2onreddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A "TV set".
EntroperZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video display. Especially if it only has HDMI inputs.
BeesSolveEverything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have cable since I started using online streaming stuff. So instead of saying "I'm watching TV" I say "I'm watching the internet". If there's nothing in particular I want to watch, I say "There's nothing on the internet" instead of "There's nothing on TV"
arkhound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix becomes entirely synonymous with watching shows online.
bambamtx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're on mine...
MilgramHarlow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is because in that context โtvโ is used as a synonym for โtv showโ or โtv broadcast.โ
zachdog6 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:31:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any political insult.
When you call everyone a nazi or a sjw it loses all meaning.
Gnometard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a social Nazi justice warrior
try_____another ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But he really is a gay atheist communist Nazi Muslim whoโs working for the Jews!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:31:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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pancake_sock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It comes full meta because all those products are sold on Amazon. Amazon is killing Amazon.
heymaa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:33:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Punch the clock" or "Punching in" referring to the hole punch/time stamp a machine would press onto your physical timecard. I know some place still use these, but even with new electronic services the term punching in is still used.
xDangeRxDavEx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:58:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DLC. It used to be Downloadable Content. Now half of it is already on the disc locked behind a paywall.
Farsan5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:11:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Psych0matt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:14:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still somewhat relevant as lower end or poorly optioned cars can still have crank windows
Farsan5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:14:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is true I would say that for the most part it is gone
Topco ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:21:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Donald Trump Presidency"
harryballzonu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please "tape" that show for me. instead of recording to DVR.
lupuscapabilis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even DVR at this point sounds ancient to me. Haven't had cable for years and then decided to get Vue last year, which has no specific DVR as most people know it. I haven't DVR'd anything in about 7 years.
Meldrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freedom.
jstehlick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
answering machine
dandaman64 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think 99% of the time I hear the word "binge" it's related to something other than binge-eating and drinking, which was pretty much the original connotation before terms like "binge-watching" came to fruition.
redditorandcheef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two birds with one stone, if you are trying to kill birds with stones you got issues.
blipsman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
referring to a band's group of songs as an album
calling a movie for home viewing as a video
BatBurgh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial the phone
DrNO811 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go on vacation. In the United States, there's no such thing as vacation anymore - you take your work with you or you work your butt off on either side of the "vacation" in order to make up for lost time. (and rarely is there such a thing as relaxing)
illpoet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
riding shotgun. no one has had a guy with a shotgun next to the driver in 120 years.
Mperfect1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radical... I was born in the 80s and that was a popular term thanks to TMNT, The Simpsons and everything else... Now when you hear it... It doesn't quite mean the same thing.
BBQHappyMeal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still use โradโ to refer to something thatโs awesome.
PurpleStripedLizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nowadays when most clocks are digital: Clockwise and counterclockwise
Ganjisseur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up a phone.
zombipuppy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just in case anyone is wondering, there's a term for this called "Skeumorphism":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph
JulianPerry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Microsoft Word we still click a floppy disk icon to save
randarrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
September, October, November and December mean 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th month; respectively.
FarazR90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer/programming "bug". The use of the term bug originated from when computers were the size of an entire room with a lot of wire and buttons and what not. It something didn't work well or malfunctioned, it was most likely due to a physical bug (fly and things like that) that went into the wires and short-circuit or malfunctioned something. Hence the term "it's a bug".
7thMonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dashboard"
It comes from the horse and cart days where it was a literal piece of board that sat between the horse and rider to protect the the rider from being hit by dirt being flung up when the horse "dashed". It was a literal "dash board".
It was then put into cars where various indicators were added to assist the driver. Now "dashboard" is synonymous with those indicators which lead to its use on computer "dashboards".
ragingduck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. We no longer have phone receivers to โhang upโ on the phone cradle that activated the button or lever to end the call. We just press the โendโ button.
ifiwereabravo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Conservative and liberal
DanGodOfWhatever ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but does have everyday use: the save icon is a floppy disk which is obviously not in use anymore.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging code, which derives from the time code was punched on 'paper' which when read by the machine sometimes would read bugs sitting on paper as code, which would have to be manually debugged for the machine to continue.
kirkbywool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saying that you will tape something to watch or listen to later. Can't remember the last time I physically used a tape
Slinkwyde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AT&T stands for "American Telephone & Telegraph."
atlasobscura ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Copy and paste
Franticfap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can anyone tell me where the term, "swing by" (ie: swing by my place") comes from? is it a term we used to use when we were still swinging on vines as monkeys? i think that ones the oldest in that case
hellarar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not words but icons: The save icon in most applications is a 3.25โ floppy disk, the email icon is a stamped envelope, the phone is an old curved handset.
sumuji ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bless you" after someone sneezes. In olden times they said this because they thought the person was expelling demons when they sneezed.
NoseFire777 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In theater, "Break a leg!"
It's used in place of "good luck" due to superstition these days. It used to refer to the mechanisms to open and close the main stage curtain, these cranks/levers were called 'Legs', and to "Break a leg" meant to do a performance so amazing the stagehands would have to open and close the curtains so much (for encores, cheering, etc.) that they would break/snap the Leg from putting that much stress on the curtain cranks.
PvtToonz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window
compguytracy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using the floppy disc icon as the save file in word,or excel. Not a term but a anachronism
Charirner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This always bothered me especially when saving anything over 1.4Mb.
compguytracy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1.44 mb!
sephoralichborn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. So many people don't have landline phones (and a lot have never used one) so they've never literally hung up a phone.
naz1960 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly a term. But the save icon still looks like a good old floppy disk.
clowdstryfe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window
BogeyFest99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still say 'save' which makes sense but the symbol on Microsoft Word is still a floppy disk. I haven't used a floppy disk since the 90's.
badalberts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rocking out. Originally cave man musicians used actual rocks to make music
sslee12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I call shotgun!"
meow_mom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know this term was originally used for stagecoachs, but as long as there are siblings on this earth this term will still be used.
zandyman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:15:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife still seems me to the store for tin foil, which I'm pretty sure hasn't been used for food storage in her lifetime.
DarkBytes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
President of the United States?
Breakfastdestroyer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up. Most people only have smartphone now and not landlines.
AdamsDJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
liberal
oz1sej ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Debugging" used to refer to the physical removal of insects from the inside of large, old computers.
Pbackrider ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:22:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your car window. Even miming it survives.
el_muerte17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:42:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's such a tenuous anachronism that manufacturers are even still making new cars with crank windows!
simple1689 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?
Su_kha_ma_dique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"My favorite celebrity isn't a sexual predator!"
MichaelSwizzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a friend
SirSwede ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go do my banking.
attemptnumbertwo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sounding like a broken record" to describe someone repeating themselves a couple times.
Erik831 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still hear, and am guilty of using the term โmovie trailerโ sometimes.
They used to put previews of upcoming films at the end of a movie, but that was almost immediately recognized as a bad idea since everyone was leaving the theater.
reddit455 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
with 99% of my friends.. "call me" doesn't usually result in anything verbal
euphemism_illiterate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Windows.
Films.
Bookmarks.
Chatting.
YLthrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto
hwf0712 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pokรฉmon Go
CrazyJay10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pokemon Red and Green predate Pokemon Go by a good 20 years...
hwf0712 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is about old things still with relevance. R&G are old. Go isn't.
CrazyJay10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "Ditto" didn't originate with pokemon, but regardless a misunderstanding on my part.
hwf0712 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a yoke anyway
hairyarsewelder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Run VT..
GMPollock24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rewind is actually still used in Aviation. We send out Armatures for rewind.
netheris13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Respect.
antroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youtube
mcternan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word bus, comes from the latin Omnibus which means "to or for everyone"
Drslappybags ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the local bus is available to or it is for everyone.
lazlounderhill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bee's Knees" Thanks to colony collapse disorder, it's lost much of its relevance, and now carries with it tragic ecological undertones.
aGuitarHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
T.V. Shows, even though I imagine most of us stream through our computers.
Djdanny90999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wipe
Salted_One ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freelancer. One of my favorites
Uoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoes. Once meant to "shoe" away the evil spirits in the ground by means of clothes wrapped around your feet. Now it simple is a piece of clothing.
eloderung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A "square" deal--refers to the large parcels of land given to war veterans in young USA, now used for fair or equitable deals.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "going" used to just mean moving physically in a direction. Now it's used to imply future tense.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check out the term "Grammaticalization" on wikipedia.
durgadas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Online is also an interesting problem. No web pages are kept "online". They are DELIVERED on-the-line (an old phone term).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"suck my cock"
AlmanzoWilder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scroll down. Probably came from those rolls of paper.
UppruniTegundanna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunset
Sunrise
Hang up (the phone)
Linguistic skeuomorphism
BarkDocklate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The trope of looking through a keyhole.
g18e7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blueprint.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AlyxVeldin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
E D G Y A S F U C K
pwebster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goodbye - is a contraction of god be with you
pwebster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This post has given me alot of TIL comments
onogur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youโre all talking about the floppy disk icon, but an icon itself used to be small representation of Jesus or a saint.
Also, I still โdrawโ a bowl of water even though we have neither a pump or a well.
Dagonus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering rewind has its first recorded use in the 18th century, I'm not really sure it's fair to say is core use is gone. Rather, its recent use is gone.
mydeadface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Legit.
Dynasty2201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You're a genius".
No, you brought cups when nobody else thought to do so.
EINSTEIN was a genius. You are not. Sorry.
CrazyJay10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:09:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even further, "genius" was a description for an idea in particular, not the individual who thought of it. E=MC2 would be considered "genius", not Einstein himself.
Part of the reason "geniuses" can have stress and anxiety issues: They feel they must constantly put forth intelligent ideas to meet expectations.
hi_im_haze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hearsay. You hear someone say something.
cultofvader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Camera on page where you tap on your phone to take a picture
sixblackgeese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...with the camera
cultofvader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same concept and function but it's got an older style analog camera on it. No one really uses those anymore except specialists or hobbyists because we all have one in our pocket now and don't care about super good quality as much as portability and convenience.
wildwinterwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I rub out the whiteboard with a โdusterโ.
Deere-John ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xerox? They were one of the first companies to be turned into a verb before Google that I know of...
mudcrabmetal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhhh fuck there's a word for this and I forgot what its called. The word basically describes when a symbol used to represent something is no longer actually used, like a floppy disc save icon, a picture of a phone handle for when you make calls even though most children have never used a phone that wasnt a smart phone. Ughhhh what was the word for this.
mudcrabmetal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skueomorph!
Ciliate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flush the chain. When was the last time you saw a toilet with a chain?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A couple months ago, my friend has a toilet in his house that has a chain for flushing
xjackofspaidsx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically most toilets still have chains in the tank to raise the flapper for flushing
EvLmong00se ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If Iโm not mistaken. Itโs when air blows over the same location twice.
gottabelenny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Love.
ferretsarerad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still refer to looking up directions as mapquesting them
L0rdFrieza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling a city bus a trolly
thatspotrightthere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When purchasing something some will say "ring this up" "ring me up". Old cash registers used to have a bell that chimed when the register opened.
Balls to the wall Old cockpits had a ball handle for throttle. Pushing it to the wall gave full speed.
MusicIsMedicine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Stoke the fire", "fan the flames", "scatter the ashes"
Using these when not talking about fire. I grew up with a wood burning fireplace, but many younger people won't have that experience.
rainbowWar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put the kettle on.
Pizzacrusher ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:53:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well, not on the stove, but "put it on" as in "turn it on;" many people have electrical kettles.
rainbowWar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but the term comes from putting it on the stove. You never say "Put on the light", " Put on the tv". And you never say "Turn on the kettle"
Pizzacrusher ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:01:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ok, good points.
maybe in England they say it that way? I dont know...
thedolphinarsenal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lock and Load
Pizzacrusher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
always wondered about that... wouldnt "load and lock" be more appropriate?
Behemothwasagoodshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower.
Doobie-Keebler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not so much. James Watt determined that a horse could turn a mill wheel 144 times in an hour (or 2.4 times a minute). The wheel was 12 feet (3.7 m) in radius; therefore, the horse travelled 2.4 ร 2ฯ ร 12 feet in one minute. Watt judged that the horse could pull with a force of 180 pounds-force (800 N). So:
Watt defined and calculated the horsepower as 32,572 ftยทlbf/min, which was rounded to an even 33,000 ftยทlbf/min.
We have to have a comparative method of evaluating power output from engines, and horsepower is it.
OhHiGCHQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn on the light refers to the days light switches were modelled after gas valves.
Taffythecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nowadays, more appropriately it's "Flick the light".
grifan526 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling W a Double U
In a much older form of English the U looked like a V in todays alphabet, hence W looking like a double U (VV).
SanguinePar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of the opposite of OP, but people used to refer to videotapes as "videos", then when DVDs and BlueRays, etc came along they stopped.
Even though what a DVD/BlueRay does is show video.
paul_aka_paul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carbon copy. I don't know if it is used much anymore outside of cc: on emails. I wonder where the average age cutoff is for remembering the days of carbon paper.
xjackofspaidsx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carbon paper is still widely used today
paul_aka_paul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I never see it anymore. It seems to have been replaced with paper that has some reaction to pressure rather than needing separate carbon paper.
xjackofspaidsx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still see it used a lot with small contractors that we have out to do repairs (but some people in my state can still be a bit behind the times )
paul_aka_paul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see contractors using it. I imagine the mess isn't as big of an issue in that setting as it is in a retail or professional setting.
sonomabob1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smaller subset: I my childhood people still talked about the "ice box" instead of refrigerator. I think that one is totally gone now.
4-alien-blue2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Making that little signing something motion at a waiter across the room to ask for the bill when I have only ever used chip and pin or contactless.
jjconstantine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The words "calculator" and "computer" used to refer to people who computed numbers and complex equations before the invention of the electronic substitutes we use today.
prjindigo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"care"
darwin2500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, like, almost all words?
Kellosian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In movie editing, to cut a scene meant to literally cut it out of a film reel. Scenes left "on the cutting room floor" were left on the floor.
freenarative ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From archery:
keep it under your hat: archers kept their bow strings under their hat to keep em dry and stop others robbing them.
Let loose: to release/un,nock an arrow. (Ever tried to hold a bow drawn for a while? It's HELL!
straight as an arrow: it's supposed to mean "straight" or "direct" but ironically, arrows aren't/don't go straight. Google "archers paradox"
shafted: screwed over. It actually means "to get shot with an arrow"
try_____another ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought โstraight as an arrowโ meant as straight as the actual arrow had to be. Using a bent arrow would not go well.
Pavlovs_Human ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shot gunning weed is when you take a hit, hold it in, and then transfer the smoke from your mouth to another persons mouth, usually by kissing, but it can be done by making your hands into a funnel, or using a toilet paper roll.
Soldiers in Vietnam (maybe earlier wars? I only saw a video of this happening in Vietnam) would turn their shotgun into a makeshift bong where they'd rip the bowl by the ejection port, and then blow down the tube while another soldier sucks the smoke out of the end of the barrel.
That's where that came from apparently, we just don't use weapons anymore :P
Carbonatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Pull the chain' refering to flushing the toilet.
sserium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โI donโt want to be a broken recordโ Meaning someone doesnโt want to keep repeating what theyโre saying, like how a broken record would repeat the same thing.
doublementh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word 'ulterior' in the phrase 'ulterior motive.' Ever notice how the first word is never alone?
ftctkugffquoctngxxh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Giddyap", says Dad when he's getting impatient. But when you look around -- there's no horses.
xsgerry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the sound effect of a needle being scratched off the record as a cinematic short hand to show that someone's expectations have just been thwarted.
clivederekson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Avocado was the Incan name for a testicle
Nocoffeesnob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โEraseโ
Agent_Orange7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the shutter sound when you take a picture with a digital camera.
Wariac_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Northern_rebel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Change the record!" Change the what? asks the millenial
"Change the m4u or something!"
lurker_bee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove box in your car used to actually be where you kept your gloves!
Jahnli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you are off the chain:
Free from work or direct supervision. In reference to slave labor, where workers are chained.
Referring to a spouse as the old ball and chain, where prisons used to chain prisoners to a heavy metal ball.
thegreengumball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling out "shot gun" to get the front seat. Originally riding "shot gun" ment being up next to the driver on the wagon and actually having a shot gun.
MissKitty0405 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling down the windows" in a car. My older model still has the crank but I'm willing to bet in a few years you'd be hard pressed to find a kid that knows where the saying comes from.
BetaBerserker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling" down a car window even though it is powered.
loki143 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboard, it used to be the board to protect driver of a horse drawn carriage from mud and snow being kicked up on them.
devken147 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film. Film, and filming, used to refer to film cameras. Now they're used when discussing movies.
Haynzzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the window"
helenara777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More andmore, sharpening your pencil is less and less used
SoulCaster1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the window up/down.
Ngh21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window is lretty much there. Its been a while since ive seena car or truck that you actually had to roll the window up or down
theTale_ofYoMama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window
Tnamada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
literally
Fuqdawat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
YippyKayYay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll down the window"
There is no "roller" anymore, save for extremely basic cars
BlinkTrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scroll. Like to scroll down a web page.
Joe_Biden_Memes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up windows.
the_blind_gramber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
KiloGex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows.
Xenodad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3/4โ Floppy Disk for โSaveโ icon.
Scooter30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the car window?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Chaosmusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's your dime - I still say that sometimes when someone else initiates a conversation or we're talking on their time.
I still refer to an album from a band as a record, regardless of the actual format it's on.
ImmovableThrone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer
NascentBehavior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I've done some research"
Ralph-King-Griffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To have a quarrel with someone is basically to attack each other with crossbows, quarrel referred to a particular type of bolt head.
Similarly "out of the blue" is an archery term, fairly self explanatory given the context.
As is "keeping it under your hat" when you're aware bow strings were made from dried animal produce and would lose their tension when wet, hence archers would keep a spare under their hats.
My favorite is that one of the origins of the two fingers hand gesgure (similar to Churchill's victory V) comes from archers taunting one another as any captured could be effectively and permanently disarmed by cutting them off.
Phulloshiite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cc carbon copy
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up or down the window.
mennydrives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Analogue" comes from audio recording, where the literal vibrations of the voices going into the mic would be amplified and etched onto vinyl records. (and before that, wax cylinders)
"Digital", on the other hand, comes from watches, where a traditional watch would use the big hand/little hand to display the time on a radial dial, while a digital watch would use, well, numerical digits to display that time.
Basically, the two terms come from entirely different fields.
Also, "air conditioning" comes from "yarn conditioning"; AC originated in the textile industry, as it made it easier to keep cloth production quality independent out the outdoors air quality.
skillfire87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although itโs true that there were โdigitalโ watches in the early 80โs, the origin of โdigitalโ does not come from that.
โIn the late 1930s and early 1940s, the work of mathematicians and engineers led to the development of a new type of computing machine. As opposed to earlier analogue devices, which used a continuous quantity (such as voltage) to compute the desired quantity by analogy, these new machines operated upon data that was represented as a series of discrete digits. For example, in such a system the letter A might be represented as the binary sequence โ01000001โ (as it is in the ASCII encoding scheme).โ
pigbenis369 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll down the car window
Frank7913 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn it up/down
CTeam19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The text messages icon on my phone just changed from an envelope to speech bubbles. So I guess we don't use that anymore.
unique_design ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Spoonsiest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honking your horn. I assume the horn was a reference to the sound produced from blowing through an animalโs horn (like a ram or whatever).
Cnkr97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
wikketcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can you wind up the window?
Jouglet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the car window.
coltsiebenaler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Rolling' down a window in a car
PM_Me_Nudes_or_Puns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
ticklish94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
TheKingsDiddly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rule of thumb
eloquentdevice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your window
bob_oh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up a car window
jplank1983 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hang up the phone
firebolt22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"intelligence quotient": It used to be a quotient, but it's not anymore (quotient = a quantity produced by the division of two numbers).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When sports teams study "film". Come to think of it, the whole film industry, which does a majority of its business without using any actual film whatsoever.
Sysion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we say something was "just a flash in the pan" it related to flint lock firearms. The pan is where the sparks from the flint would land and ignite the charge. Flash in the pan meant the gun had no powder in the barrel and instead of firing, just the priming powder would go off in the pan and nothing would shoot out.
falcoperegrinus82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Filming" something even though you're using a digital camera.
Scrugulus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The name of the "SHIFT" key on your keyboard.
...or "rolling down" a window in a car.
locovelo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a broken record.
frobro441011 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your horses. Was used to tell people to slow down back when carriages were a thing
-Master-Builder- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the car window.
The phone is ringing.
Film a video.
guantanamoslay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down (car).
sexyllama99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Sweetback919 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunrise and sunset, unless you're geocentric
sandscript ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of them, if you take their etymologies back as far as you can.
Magpar88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" down your window.
Crispy_socks241 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"im gonna throw on a porno tape" when really its a DVD
Asyhlt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Troll"
tweedledoodle0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I witnessed history
Verlepte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being online in a lot of cases nowadays doesn't involve a line (wire) especially not on pocket computers.
DocHoladay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the car window.
thenixnerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the window down."
Arkham_Z ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soon "clockwise" won't have any meaning
MaddenMan73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NetFlix - Short for Internet Flick.
Flick is from the "flickering" of light in old school film movies.
technocraft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the regular I hear some host on NPR say "we have tape of so-and-so saying" or "lets listen to the tape".
They could just substitute "audio"...
Awesome2D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Depression"
JMDeutsch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboard
Glovebox
Wheelhouse
Cakewalk
UnbrokenMacaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goodbye. Itโs original meaning was โGod be with yeโ
Snoop_Potato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How soon until I see these on buzzfeed?
mrgeef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey lets TAPE this! Now we just record.
gamblingman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say roll down the window.... but my brother just bought a truck with manual windows.
tasslehof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bug.
Reffered to an actual insect that was in the computer making the valves in the computer malfunction.
the_lucky_cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Airbrushing photos.
turXey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll your window down"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll Down the Window.
AaroniusH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and Paste. You could do that with a typewriter, but I don't think you're supposed to take scissors and paste to a computer screen to get the text right
trickspiration ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shut the front door
cchuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's raining cats and dogs.
EDIT: Sorry, I should have explained where this term derived from. In the 1500 and 1600's London and probably most other cities didn't have animal control. So you had a lot of animals that while not domesticated would live among people and of course be fed by people. In those days, many of the cats and dogs would climb onto the roofs of the buildings and live. In London it rains a lot so when it would rain the cats and dogs would fall off the roof and thus the term was born.
RogerSterlingsFling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those were the good old days
kid_at_the_gym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Molerus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm honoured to be here on this blessed day! :)
azzadruiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down
PeculiarAndLost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freedom
444izme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For TVโs. We used to say. โTurn it over to another channelโ or just โturn itโ because you would have to turn the knob to do so.
legice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go ti the tape, gonna tape it... you get it. Im not a US citizen, yet because of older movies, shows and so on, I use those words when talking to other people in english
rustyjohnson504 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
ericmeek87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows in a car
SquirrelHumper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Newspaper. Back in olden times, when something "new" happened, it was printed on "papers" that used to be delivered to your doorstep every morning. So a collection of new articles or "news" on papers became "newspapers". Also used to line birdcages, and train puppies.
avidsdead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Filming video"
nocturno65 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movies are still referred to as flicks, i.e. Netflix. The term comes from the early machines that had a quick flickering effect because of the way the film past through the projector.
baldeagle86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chill
mrp9034 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
YvYDon_DonutYvY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll down the window!
I_can_pun_anything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Decimate, in roman times it meant drawing lots and 10% of the standing army would be killed off to instill obedience.
Now it's just saying the same thing as your team or something was gravely wounded or damaged.
TheMightyWoofer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy.
DreglingRush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upper and lower case in regards to the printing pressโ cases their held the actual letters.
Axtorx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is anything on a touchscreen actually a โbuttonโ
Am_I_Thirsty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youtube rewind 2017!
say592 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still refer to the accelerator in my electric car as the "gas pedal".
Silverlitmorningstar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This thread has made a major impact on my mental health.
CriesOfBirds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn off the tv. There's nothing left to turn its a button.
LostAndContent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
JITTERdUdE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows.
PhilipJFry3k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up (or down) the windows" my 8 year old asked me why we say this the other day. He's never been in a car that didn't have powered windows.
grimmjoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your window
TNorwhatyouwill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Book" your ticket, meaning pay and reserve a seat. Everything is recorded electronically - no longer a master book where this information is kept.
Speaking of which, "record" is Middle English: from Old French record โremembrance,โ from recorder โbring to remembrance,โ from Latin recordari โremember,โ based on cor, cord- โheart.โ The noun was earliest used in law to denote the fact of being written down as evidence. The verb originally meant โnarrate orally or in writing,โ also โrepeat so as to commit to memory.โ
#themoreyouknow
cowboydirtydan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While driving, checking your blind spot with a "head check." You usually look for the car, not the head. I believe it's because cars used to almost always be open.
PartyLikeIts2007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
PeculiarPeter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cuckold is a shakespearian term.
cryptoengineer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dial/hang up a phone
wind down a car window
tape a conversation
film an event
software plug-ins
Actually_a_Patrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't touch that dial.
Movie.
CincyWstSdr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I got it on tape".
HabadaDoobadaDoobadi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OB64
longboardluv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using the word "click" when interfacing with your phone! Every time I see a review on YouTube of the latest device or app and the person says "click" it drives me nuts! Only a mouse can "click" please use the word "tap"!
senracatokad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To โtapeโ anything
DyscoStick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window has lost much of it's meaning.
Owomaniya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
democracy
CUNTRY-BLUMPKIN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pointing at their wrist for the time.
psychgrad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still hear people refer to audiobooks as books on tape.
Keinichn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a term, but lots of programs still use the image of a floppy for the save button.
RockMeIshmael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All the nautical terms we use, which are many.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Desktop, it's self explanatory.
sandman730 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "footage" as used in film used to refer to the physical length of a reel of film.
mathmitch7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off the hook - > refers to a phone that's ringing a lot
valkyrieone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window.
TheWingedCherryPie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Floppy disk means save.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A mixtape when in reality the closest it'll come will be on a CD. And who really uses CDs anymore?
YeezuzDeezNuts2020 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. No one has hand cranked windows anymore unless your car is 20+ years old
Pojinator89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
Side_FX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cassette
XanderCommander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videotape is the one I always notice
Judgeman2021 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
VeleriumGems ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โLitโ
JiggySockJob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
klousGT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your phone is ringing.
phillywillyhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase roll up your window. Sure windows still go up and down but you used to have to crank the window up like Igor.
LazyCourier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โFilm that!โ โWe got that on tape.โ
Barely anyone uses film or tape anymore.
Corey307 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get it on tape
buttered_peanuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up
MusicShouldGetBetter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pressing play
Fallbback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because of how linguistics evolves. If a term is commonly referred to as something, that becomes its meaning
pfurman69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hit me on the hip - old pager phrase Catch you on the flip side - old 45 singles phrase Cyber - use to mean dirty talk in chat rooms. Now Cyber Monday is all about the sales.
SuicideKingsHigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I video taped it!"
Did you though?
zPieEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
sirian345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down.
ptg33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife thinks it's ridiculous I still call the tv remote a "clicker".
DorothysRedShoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window even when you have electric car windows.
ian_doesnt_reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma calls tv shows โprogramsโ
ottrocity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have neither a cart nor a horse but I still put one before the other, often in the wrong order.
Sarpanitu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
ItsDemiMondaine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cordless phone
h8full8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna make you a mixtape!!
ctilvolover23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still use the VHS player so I still rewind things.
tatricia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hold your horses" is a term used today, but it was originally used for the horse carriage driver that literally had to hold the horses when they needed to stop or hold the journey.
SonOfNod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging. In the original computers bugs would crawl in and cause shorts in the system. Someone would literally have to debug the computer and get the bugs out.
NSFWIssue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all, if not all, words, by virtue of being words in a language, experience this exact phenomenon.
flankie2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broadcast means scatter seeds over a wide range originally
idgelee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I search for DVD release dates even though I'm buying the movie digitally. Realized it's likely my kid won't know what a DVD is.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
Guitaroosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Selling like hotcakes". What even is a hotcakes.
maniaxuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cakes that have just come out of the oven I'd guess
ilovebeermoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pancakes guys, they're pancakes.
maniaxuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess that makes sense as well
Hydrogeology ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like a pancake but made with slightly different ingredients, are usually more dense, thicker, and larger than pancakes.
Aethermancer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im going to write this post in this reddit thread.
wundrwweapon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film. The video you took on your phone is not film. The process of making it is not filming
Ryzasu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A computer bug
SUMmaro400ex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower. Cars arenโt trying to compete against horse and buggy anymore.
VanGoghingSomewhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What youโre referring to is a dead metaphor. google some examples
Jarret6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video taping. My wife gives me shit for it every time
rawbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
going to see a film
lbecka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up
TheConboy22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Role up the window
doubleyouofficial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Records (as in songs)
letsbrocknroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtapes; particular the โfireโ SoundCloud variety.
drgonzoTO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the car window
jfsindel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Snapping" a photo isn't truly correct anymore since everything is digital or on phones. Cameras with film actually made a snapping noise and it's sort of my perception that digital ones only make it that loud because you wouldn't believe the picture took otherwise.
"Ring tone" was an actual "ring" tone but it now has symbolized music or beats that alerts to calls. I don't think kids have heard a real ringtone and maybe you can find a close watch on ringtone downloads.
Same note, we still say "I'll ring him up" or "It's ringing" but truthfully, there's no actually ringing going on. That might be semantics though.
"Really cleaned his clock" I don't hear this outside of boxing anymore but we don't clean clocks or watches anymore (for the youngins, it means someone knocked your ass out flat).
I will say that a friend of mine loves Jim Carrey and we were quoting lines from his movies. The line was "Tone, put on a big ass size 13 and kick it for the homies." A teenage cousin of mine did not understand it at all, even after we explained it so I guess "kicking it with the homies" isn't a phrase anymore?
Jklopper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window in your car
Numarx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wallpaper
Borkton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of computer terminology is ultimately descended from printing terms.
Rapist_Winston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Raining Cats & Dogs!
brush_between_meals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Turning" the volume (or the temperature) up or down, even though many people today perform those tasks without rotary dials or knobs.
jjaoyj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Room and Board" is one that's still here, although one could make a case that the room bit is still relevant. The "board" here refers to an actual board that was used like a dining table. Originally, there weren't dining tables, just a giant board of wood on which the various dishes containing food would be placed. This board would be laid across the thighs of everyone sitting down to eat (the chairs would be arranged to balance the board properly). I personally think this might also be the origin of the rule "keep elbows off the table". If the elbows were on the dining board, then the board itself shakes while people eat, making it hard any individual diner to have a comfortable dinner.
"Lightning in a bottle" is another one. It's used to describe an impossible task, the achievement of which would lead to great renown. But when you think about it, it's really just a fancy, poetic definition for a battery. I suppose a capacitor is probably more technically apt as the item being defined, but either way,the phrase is still not really relevant anymore.
jseego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To ring someone up.
Most cash registers are electronic nowadays, and don't make an actual bell sound when you complete a transaction. Older cash registers had a bell that would ring when the drawer opened to make change.
aagpeng ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down windows
Betypan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โLet me video thatโ
taleofbenji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Save icon is a floppy disk (which used to be called a hard disk until hard drives came along).
JJHall_ID ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went through the transition from 5 1/4" floppy disks to 3 1/2" floppy disks, alongside a hard drive, and I've never heard them called a hard disk other than by people that didn't know better. The term is referring to the media inside, not the outer case.
taleofbenji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying you heard people call them that. Got it.
JJHall_ID ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it was never called that. It was an incorrect term when it was being used by non-savvy people. It's like someone incorrectly identifying a PC tower as a hard drive. That doesn't mean the tower was ever called hard drive in the grand scheme of things. It wasn't a term that was used and lost it's relevance. I was merely pointing out that 3.5" floppies weren't "called a hard disk until hard drives came along." They were always floppy disks from the start. That said, it doesn't affect your comment regarding the save icon being represented by a floppy disk, that part of it is exactly correct.
sadbutfalse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Threshold - it used to be the barrier in the doorways of a house that kept the flooring (grasses/thresh) inside.
TheDeeB11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are still barriers in doorways, but now instead of keeping flooring in, it keeps water out.
phishsamich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down in a car.
eyescoldlemonade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows in your car.
_AlreadyTaken_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filming something
BigMic25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
takethislonging ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are called dead metaphors.
greedymuffcabbage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows up.
sweensolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broken record
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shotgun. Referring to riding in the passenger seat. Back in the days of horse drawn carriages, the person riding next to the driver would carry the shotgun for defense. Hence why the seat next to the driver is called shotgun. Since people who drive do not need defending from bandits or wild animals anymore, the original meaning of the term has lost its core relevance.
nl1004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the midwest. Passengers here still carry shotguns lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But why do they carry shotguns?
xilstudio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fear
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do they wish to instill fear, or are they afraid of something?
xilstudio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
nl1004 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup.
nl1004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you been to the midwest? There's nothing to do here accept shoot road signs.
FightClubLeader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window.
deerl0rd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up/down.
droofe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dash board used to be an actual board that keeps the dirt from horses from flying up on carriages. Now itโs our instrument panel
slappindabass123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. Most cars don't have manual cranks anymore, just buttons..
Aidansturn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Psylent0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep your elbows off the table. It is said to have come from sailors who would use their elbows to stabilize their plates in rough seas, but typically anyone who felt the need to guard their food while eating.
PainfullySynesthetic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For cars, the "trunk" used to be an actual trunk attached to the back
k3dabra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely, all language has obscure origins? Its metaphors built on contracted metaphors all the way back to the stone age....Like the verb "to be" comes from the sanskrit "bhu" meaning "to grow" or "make grow".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find myself saying "I read in the paper" even though I really saw it online....I'm old....
nl1004 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always say "I read somewhere..."
FarazR90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down/up the window
The_Gnar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down
CarelesslyCubedCheez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Genwunner_Zero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Winding the window up in a car
some_random_kaluna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The On and Start buttons on a modern washing and drying machine have the Pause and Play buttons found on audio devices.
I mean, for crying out loud.
Hoff93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I rewind electric motors. Winding technician is my job title
wh27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ down the window
guyguy112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down, now you just press the button
ssgstring ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll the window up.โ
Munoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Love". So much hatred out here fam...
willflameboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower?
gladgoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
dolorespotter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โreelsโ in โ filmโ even though everything is digital.
whitem0nkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn up the window
AnInternetAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window in your car
cyberg007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape it. as in reference to recording something on the DVR,
Stmpnksarwall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Balls out"
Refers to a train traveling at its max speed
nl1004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it still sounds awesome
bag_of_grapes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cellphone.
People just refer to them as phones now.
ZCLoki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll-up the window.
JayMongie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the window down"
tallbigtree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window. Now it's all electronic
donalsaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Moral_Gutpunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cart before the horse
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Podcast. It's crazy how quickly that one aged out.
ReeferMandela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling" your car window up or down.
Phil_Drill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people still refer to photos that were digitally altered as "airbrushed".
"Turning" the volume up or down when there's no knob to turn.
felesroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Miniature.
Today, the word Miniature means something very small, like a dollhouse, but the word derives from pictures painted in medieval manuscripts and, before that, Roman scrolls. These pictures were often illustrative of the text nearby or they showed an author portrait. Regardless, compared to paintings like frescos, which would cover a wall, the paintings in books were very small and hence the word used for a small painting came to mean any very small version of something else.
The word Miniature itself comes from Minium, a mineral used for making red pigment. Paint made from this pigment would be used as a frame around the little pictures in books to separate them from the text, thus giving rise to the word Miniature - a thing within a minium border.
KL1FF0R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up/ down Windows in a car. When we had the hand crank Windows it was accurate. Now we just "switch" up the windows
FiveYearsAgoOnReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cashiers "ringing up" a sale on a cash register which just makes a dull beeping sound.
Oktavius82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down a car window.
RoburLimax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Copper. Police no longer have badges made of copper.
Flick. Movies no longer make a flicking sound whole running through the projector since everything is digital.
whelpineedhelp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the Window
insrsneed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
relevance Don't you mean meaning?
Shalth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bug - In 1946, when Hopper was released from active duty, she joined the Harvard Faculty at the Computation Laboratory where she continued her work on the Mark II and Mark III. Operators traced an error in the Mark II to a moth trapped in a relay, coining the term bug. This bug was carefully removed and taped to the log book. Stemming from the first bug, today we call errors or glitches in a program a bug.[9]
Akyrael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YO MAMMA
ziggypit27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say "video tape" when I record something. Same as a videographer. You're not video taping something, you're digitally recording it.
Lazy_Osprey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The floppy disk is still the save icon on a lot programs.
tldnaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll the windows down.โ Not too many cars with manual windows nowadays
jesuschristismyNlGGA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows.
blurplethenurple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The reverse to this:
"Hi! Were doing a contest where if you take a selfie in front of our banner and post it to social media, we'll put you in the running!"
proceeds to take my picture for me
"Oh nice selfie!"
-.-
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in broadcasting and we still say โSOTโ (โsound on tapeโ) when referring to a prerecorded soundbite.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kick start
splooshnush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down/up the window.
clbeeb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
randallfromnb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going to catch a flick. "Flick" has been outdated for close to a century now. It's from the very first movies that looked like the light was flickering while being played. Because it was. The camera would shut off the light between frames of the movie being played.
overheated11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window... throwback to physically rolling in order to make my window move downward. Now we jusy press a button.
Kevinator3000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back click. Whenever I say to back click, no one knows what I mean.
devraj7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up the phone.
Yellowsubmarines11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clicker referring to the remote of a TV!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is like pretty much standard etymology, but within the last hundred to two hundred years
Bozacke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Very few cars have manual rotary windows, most have power windows. Except roll down the window and let the wind blow back your hair.
armedohiocitizen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. Thereโs no good way to end a call on a cell phone in anger like a regular phone where you can slam it down.
SeraphinaDustyBoots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. Now though, everything is electric.
ckatem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many bars do you have?
tsutts42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
myfault ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word savvy comes from the Spanish Sabe, which is the verb Saber which means To Know conjugated in the third person of the singular.
The word was used by pirates in the Caribbean that introduced the word to the English vocabulary.
311JL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
dblrb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
InturnlDemize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still "tape" stuff on my pvr.
C0LT0GRAPHY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How have I not seen roll the window up/down
Buck_Thorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a broken record.
Or, if you want to go WAY back: It didn't pan out (a gold mining reference)
Jimjamlev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doovde or doovde player
ko_estx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up your car window
FlayThemAll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say I'm going to "tape" a tv show even if I am just setting the DVR to record it.
magica12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term bunk
You pick the definition but prefer to use it as a synonym for defunct
CallMeFifi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Days of the week:
Sunday/Monday are named after the sun/moon
Tuesday-Saturday are named after gods like Woden, Thor, and Saturn
A lot of months are named to celebrate Romans (like July/Julius Cรฆsar)
andropogon09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A broken record, as in, "You sound like a broken record."
N00b451 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taping a show
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always say Iโm โtapingโ a tv show when Iโm really digitally recording it onto my HD on my box.
pitters_patters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a feeling that I donโt know what Iโm saying when I refer to my cupboard
ccmann100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
thegrooviestgravy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tape that show for me."
wenzel32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window in a car.
HolyFruitSalad_98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"rolling down" your car windows.
MrDrPhizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window. No longer do we have to struggle to turn a rusty window crank
SpiderWifey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filming or tape as in โIโm filming a video on my phone.โ or โI just got that on tape!โ
Admiral_Akhibhar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling up/down the windows" in a car
ocschwar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blueprint.
It's an old process for making cheap copies of large schematic drawings. Got that: COPIES. If you use "blueprint" to refer to the original master of a drawing, you're using it wrong.
PuffThePed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Music Album. It was literally an album, like a book, where each page held a Bakelite record that was usually one song.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The C disk on the computer. Didn't occur to me until some kid asked why it wasn't called the A disk.
Lamora-lies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Camera roll. Used to refer to literal rolls of films, now itโs just where your phone keeps your photos.
bgrimsle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the 1800's the most popular form of gambling was a game called 'faro'. Many of its terms are still in use. Poker players will say 'the case Ace' to refer to the last Ace that is not yet in play. It comes from Faro's use of a 'case' that kept track of how many cards of each rank were left as the game played out, which was important to that game. No one plays Faro anymore but its language still lives.
sadphonics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a term, but whenever I pretend to be on a phone I still do the thumb and pinky thing. Also the floppy icon for saving in programs
TheSwobbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up/down the window
Jill-Sanwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling" down the window. Honestly can't remember the last time I was in a car that didn't have a button for that.
NextBestGameDev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows.
No_Skilz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just said this to a girl in the bar the other night. She was blabbering on about something while I was watching the game. I asked her to rewind in my attempt to not be rude.
lymaro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
jespey713 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm going to tape that show.
xowzow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CC = Carbon Copy, a relic from back in the day before email.
Notsodarknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โAre you filming this?โ
Lordquaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently read that "shots", as in alcohol, were dubbed so because they used to buy "shots" with shotgun shells due to the similarity in price.
CyFus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the shutter sound on a phone
clever_clover77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Winding down or rolling up a car window
Krazykid1326 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
turtler19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lit
thebrendanohern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up a window in your car
midudi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
quikniq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The universal hand signal to roll down your window.
ItzYaBoy_Z ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clout
xilstudio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboards were for horse carriages so they didn't spray mud on the riders.
flemerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cartoons - They arenโt the animated short videos that play before the feature at the drive in anymore.
j_B00G ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blow off steam. I haven't been in any functioning steam driven machine in my life.
fresnel-rebop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs unfortunate. They are really fascinating to watch.
houtxguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
doctor_utopia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
eratonysiad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save symbol.
HappyTreesforBob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm late to the party and not sure if โrolling up the windowโ is here
Edit: although some cars do still have the handle, most newer vehicles have the automatic button!
Butterflipstick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
notworking-throwaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Nuke it" as in using a microwave to warm up food.
Mind you, with Kimmy and his crazy North Korea nuclear talk, it may bring back the core relevance...
ziptierocket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your window.
JohnSmithwastaken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pickup the phone. It doesn't make much sense today but it sounds better than swipe the phone :)
CrunkaScrooge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window :)
Slamboni12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
Im_Tiny_Rick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How has rewind lost its relevance?
That word is older than VHS tapes.
NUFCbenARFA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's rare for an average person to actually rewind anything nowadays, especially in the context of a video or a song. They aren't actually rewinding anything even though they'll still say they are.
Preppingmatters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
aerospacemonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A little bit old school, but nigh, as in "the end is nigh". Nigh had comparative and superlative forms (nigher and nighest). These corrupted into "near" and "next".
German still uses all three forms (nach, nacher und nรคchste).
javoss88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He is finally NIGH!
Jake4251 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll" your window down
herb_garden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still call aluminum foil "Tin Foil" for some reason. I'm 24, so it definitely wasn't ever made out of tin in my lifetime
papagino0017 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll downโ your window. Where it use to be a crank and itโs now a push button
YancyFryJunior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
10J18R1A ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Tickle_Fights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows.
orneryandirish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the (car) window down.
porlorlorl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Love.
Plyons72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carriage Return
Used to be for when the typewriter would reset position on a new line, and the carriage holding the paper would reset itself.
xeladoozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Groovy
keyser1884 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mortgage literally means "Death Pledge"
PolybiusHypercube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the windows.
harrynelson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling" down your car window. "Video taping" on your phone.
pertante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is going to get buried but I noticed people often say they will "tape" a show or "film" a band play instead of a more generic "record"....
WillisTheOne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling a car window up or down.
Binky216 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling up" windows in a car.
Hexusnoken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Decimate
zestaog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Ditto"
RedHorseStrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is its context originally?
MableXeno ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:37:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto - is repeating something. Early in paper copying to "ditto" was to copy the paper on a hand cranked machine (duplicator). So the action of making the copy was called ditto, but the copy itself was also referred to as a ditto.
ETA: The duplicator was alongside the mimeograph machine, which worked similarly.
RedHorseStrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never knew that, and I say ditto all the time. Thanks
TheAmethystDragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto machine
Glen_Myers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
coggdawg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window is a classic.
kapxis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll down the window.
mightymouse32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
BrettJr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Should be scroll down the window now I guess
donutnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patch. From back when punch cards were the nuts if you bollocks up a hole you'd stick a bit of tape (the patch) over it.
YourEatingThatWrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term for movies. โFlickโ
โRoll downโ the window
iangunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tin foil... is all aluminium now
cockinstien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dab
gurlpandagurl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The biggest icon would be the save button in Word. Canโt wait for the day my kids ask what it is (for those of you who are youngins, itโs a floppy disk). If you need to know what a floppy disk is, Google it while I go contemplate my impending death from old age.
miserybusiness21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally
jdhall010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's so much easier to say 'I'll video tape it' than to say 'I'll digitally record it.'
salmonngarflukel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll dvr it?
IronyIntended2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fake news
Snos_Of_Anarchy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dial" a phone number.
Haybe711 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down car windows; quickly becoming antiquated.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll upโ your car window
cruse8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
Zappiticas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. While some base model economy cars may still have crank windows. They are very uncommon
upsaesrsnwaomred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
buonaudk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up/down the car window
profpoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm not really sure the word โrewindโ lost its relevance. It still means the same thing and just no longer pertains to vhs tapes.
jiggajake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so what else do you rewind?
Jrrolomon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people refer to writing you a check (or printing a check at a business for a vendor), they still it โcutting a checkโ, or โIโll cut you a checkโ.
hump_please_rupert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
CasualColossus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling" down a window even though many cars now powered windows. There are still cars with manual windows, but there are a good amount of kids out there that never have even seen a window knob...thingy.
traindriver-1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The universal ' roll down your car window sign'
Smittles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the subject of "rewind": "tape it".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
File
haydnc97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"rolling up" the window. Most cars today have power windows, even at the lower base models.
skip_churches ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spreadsheet
Talsa3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm taping this... to mean Iโm recording something
madepopular ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Restroom. The term once referred (in the US) to a place for women to literally withdraw and rest out of the public sphere. They could loosen their corsets, breastfeed, freshen cosmetics, etc without being a โvulgarโ sight to onlookers.
mohavewolfpup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honest Pay for a Honest Days Work
RG9uJ3Qgd2FzdGUgeW91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prerolls used to be the part where you let the tape speed up before writing a commercial or film to digi/tape. Now it's what we call those YouTube ads.
Celdamaged ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows, I haven't had to actually roll up my window for 10 years.
Youre_Clams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window in a car. From when you had to crank a little handle to raise or lower the window.
Archetyp33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Peanut gallery
pavzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youtube
LangerHanSolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Online forms and other types of electronic interfaces often use "radio buttons". They are really hard to describe if you are trying to define them to someone who has never used that old school type of radio
suhayma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hold on, let me tape this." I say it all the time and have to remind myself to use "record" instead.
IAmAlexE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows (except mine are not automatic even though it is a 2008 model. I still roll up the windows and I love it)
Scuba_jim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video game
IamLancaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Shotgun" unless you literally ride with a shotgun in the passenger seat, and you're on a protect from damage mission that you will end up doing 5000 times for a little bit of XP and your companion will just whine the ENTIRE TIME about how life is hard and they never get the time they want and then they need help being boosted up a ledge even though at the beginning the jumped up the tallest ledge in the game solo but now they can't walk up a freaking step without your help and boom you failed.
ohseven1098 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fire plug. The predecessor to the fire hydrant.
JiMbO_TrOn_21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In YouTube rewind
OPengiun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
pleeton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cringe
it has a meaning close to wince. i can't even describe what it's supposed to mean today
fshowcars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Concept of a dial tone...
RunFranks525 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"trailer". Trailers were originally called trailers because they trailed the movie. Now it's pretty much advertisement for the movie
kober321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the windows"
My dad used to drive a Jeep Wrangler with the manual crank to literally roll up the windows. It's all electric now tho
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your horses. Meaning calm your halm, chill out, relax yer cacks and so on
Echo_are_one ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Carriage Return on a typewriter (pushing the barrel backwards to start the next line) has become Return on our modern keyboards.
introvurt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang upโ the phone.
_saltysnacks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows.
skettiwap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling downโ car windows.
ronjohnston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtape
Alerys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
novaquasarsuper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you video taping me!? - Every cop
popeye000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โCallโ an Uber.
kuz_929 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen kids pick up an older corded phone, look at the buttons and flip out when they see a "hashtag" button. They can't fathom that the pound symbol had meaning before Twitter.
night_writer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the flip side of this, my sister and I were talking on the phone and she was getting into her car. She said "hold on, my car is about to pick up". I immediately knew she meant the Bluetooth in her car would transfer from her phone to her car but how odd would that phrase be to hear from someone 10 or 15 years ago??!! "Wait, your car is picking what up??!?"
EngineerPhotog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The phone icon on our smartphones
Northamus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ as in a car window.
SolidEnvy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
Spectrum6205 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down a window (on a car).
Ralakhala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windows.โ
Freedom1015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Punching in and punching out for work.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is with so many people saying rolling of windows, don't they read the new comments??
crestonfunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Filming"
sad_summoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tolerance
girlyswat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get back on the horse.
majaltroute ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window. Only relevant if you still have a really old car.
TheBeardedMarxist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When is the last time you heard or used the word rewind?
nymo80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every day! :-). I wonder if it's an age thing?
TheBeardedMarxist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It what context? I'm older by the the way. Only time I can think of using it anymore is reminiscing about Blockbuster. Maybe watching a dvr, but doesn't come up for me much.
nymo80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use it all the time using Netflix, blu ray..any sort of media really. Anything I watch.
TheBeardedMarxist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I started using "back that up" over of the years without even realizing it. Rewind makes me think of "please be kind and rewind". Looking back it makes me chuckle about how mad we were when a VHS wasn't rewound. It took like 1-2 minutes tops. Lol
nymo80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've no idea why I haven't let it go. Old habits! :-)
Jorgwalther ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" down the window in a car
scirio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about Television? If not already, soon it'll not really be television but just a monitor for whatever computer-like device (or maybe built-in) in connected to it.
Bittah-Commander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rollup the window, you used to have to physically rollup the windows in cars, now you just have to hold a button.
SpazzzMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape, as in VHS
matsklein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down.
NotAConsoleGamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
LaLaLa009 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
EmoBurrito2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows.
proxalfy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
HoppsB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steamrollers (like for flattening pavement) don't use steam any more. They use to but not for a long time but we still call them steam rollers.
Gilgie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is outdated x2. Floppy disk was still used after they werent floppy anymore. The question now is, do you even know what a floppy disk is?
Lord_of_Hydras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your windows
MrLambyLamb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn on the light. When lighting was gas, you would turn the knob to open the gas valve.
TheRealSquiddyG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the window"
lemayzing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"calling" an Uber or Lyft or whatever.
Chucks2ndLogin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window
jraby3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
Riverboarder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
hippocratical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video games.
I'm 40 and it has always sounded weird to me. I've been playing computer games all these years in my mind, whether portable or not.
qoopfeast420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To pull the string = flush the toilet in norwegian. It made sense a long time ago when toilets had a water tank by the ceiling so gravity could flush the water down when you pulled a string. What is weird is that everyone says it, even though most people today dont even know why.
FrankthePug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it's not really so much a term, but just an observation about technology; "swiping" as we know it today.
A few years back my cousins had come to celebrate christmas with us and we got the whole family together at my grandma's house. I was sitting with my cousin's young daughter looking at some pictures on a regular camera (My mom insisted we take pictures both on my phone and with a regular camera that was already outdated) and I was going through the pictures with the directional button. The camera didn't have a touch screen (but still a digital screen on the back to view pictures) and my little cousin reached out to try to "swipe" through the pictures as you'd traditionally do on a phone/tablet.
It still resonates in the back of my mind because of how quick our habits change in the realm of technology. I mean like damn kid i'm only 25 i don't need to feel old yet.
Therealcoolcat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window even though most cars are electric
newmdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the window up"
TheRealFaff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people tell me a funny story or about something funny that happened that they could've recorded, I always ask, "Did you video tape it?"
Godofwarv13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Essexville ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows
KLilac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When someone says "roll down" the window in a car. We all know what it means. But that action is no longer the method
SpaceDog777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Pull the chain" on the toilet to flush it.
nymo80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at the save icon in most programs. It's the 3.5 inch floppy disc.
Lemesplain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling a window in your car up or down
It used to be an actual hand cranked rolling motion. Now it's just a button you press.
lindseybeth14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window
6chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
Dial a number.
Roll down the window
All of these are anachronistic now i guess.
t0f0b0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn up the TV. (No volume knobs anymore)
BensLargeRightMoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pull the chain when referring to flushing a toilet, they used to commonly have the tank high up so the way you would flush the toilet would be by pulling a chain rather than pushing a button or handle. Not sure but this might just be a British thing idk.
pandemik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basically every word that used to have to do with horses, e.g. "drive", "team", etc. http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1874
jdpri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea it turns out that all words have meanings that were formed in the past
BoogieToSomeMarvin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phone,โ my 12 year old cousin was dumbfounded by what I was asking him to do
SunshineShines ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. Roll down the window.
its_all_ive_got ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down.
SeiriusPolaris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Making the โwind down the windowโ sign for cars that use automatic windows.
WhackIsBack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRiding shotgunโ
The term came from horse drawn wagons/carriages in the 1800s where you would have a driver to steer the horses and a person sitting to his other side with an actual shotgun used to protect what they were transporting, whether it was people, valuables, or themselves.
jallesandro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gay
my_pen_name_is ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pump the brakes.
candidly1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dialing" a phone number.
dizzyfangerz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Before radio the term broadcast was an agricultural phrase for sowing seeds.
grwilkes88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can still 'rewind' things....it hasn't lost any relevance.
basiphobe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Treason
aprilrain187 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
mono15591 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down. It's all just a button push now.
chiefboldface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use Rewind the most during Usher's song "yeah"
HybridTheory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows! My kids will never understand the beauty of roll races :'(
skaz1official ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xerox
pantstoaknifefight2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broadcast. Used to mean scatter seeds by hand or machine instead of placing in dug holes or rows.
sues_salads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows.
brownsatin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For any one curious these are called retronyms.
McKeddie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coaches always talk about "looking at tape" of other teams.
paaras97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Whisp1207 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Beer me.
bottombutton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn on and off the lights. We use switches now, not knobs.
chevdecker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just reading about Cranberry Morphemes yesterday, they're interesting. A Cranberry Morpheme is a compound word in which one of the words isn't really used anymore. The 'cran' in cranberry, the 'rasp' in raspberry, the 'cob' in cobweb, the 'twi' in twilight, the 'mit' in permit, commit, transmit, etc., the 'ceive' in receive, perceive, deceive, conceive, etc., the 'luke' in lukewarm, are all examples of cranberry morphemes. Those compound words have a half that isn't in the language.
WolfSkill86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son gets a kick out of "Roll up your window"
ghostytot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the window"
intro_spectacles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the window." Everyone just pushes a button nowadays.
theinfiniteidea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soon, the phrase "drivers side" will become on of those things...
CholentPot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'The fix is in'
An old saying from film days. One the film was in the fixer bath it was unchangeable.
AnjunaIain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
Soda4Matt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Did you tape it so we can watch it later?"
KeithTC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial tone.
vapist420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
blakeyboy5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows
Madredchris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window
kilorat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Page.
This isn't purely on topic, but I felt like sharing in case it was interesting to anyone. I told a coworker to page me the address of a customer, and they're like, "Do you mean texting? Nobody has a pager anymore!". I guess I should be glad that a newer word caught on. To me, page is a synonym for SMS.
Litmusdragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Audit" means "to hear". In medieval times, the totals of the accounts were literally read aloud to the auditor, who wrote them down in the books.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone.
fadedabc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Redhavok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Genius. Used to refer to intelligence, now it just means something you like.
alfalfamale81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtape is the first example that came to mind. I don't even know how that became a term for unofficial albums by rap artists.
RustyTater95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows.
KronicDeath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time to punch out
rickny0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Write - nobody writes anymore. We type, we tap, we text, but we still say weโre writing stuff from notes to novels.
Bear-cano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hang up the phone
mrmoo232 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Track" when talking about music, I.e. "put the next track on". I assume this terminology comes from vinyl records because they utilise a needle which sits inside a track full of microscopic ridges which cause the needle to vibrate thus creating sound.
khast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Multi track recordings, think 8-track. (However in the recording process, each part is recorded independently, then combined in the finishing process.)
jenitelia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People always say "call an Uber" I've caught myself saying it then just give up...yeah i'm gonna call an Uber.
BasenjiMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CC in emails. It stands for Carbon Copy, this was a term for when we used paper.
Info: https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/carbon-copy.html
principled_principal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll downโ your window.
Vivaldaim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I enjoy the floppy disc โsaveโ icon personally. Also, most of the kids in my classes donโt know what a walkman is... thought that was unfortunate.
jolshefsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial (a phone) ... as in to rotate the rotary dial to select digits.
drucurl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clock strikes
Glenn5110 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the windows.
VBA_FTW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Undermine.
iamnotasnook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about "ship" a package?
Onemax1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife (62) still refers to 'the chain being pulled' when she means flushing the cistern in the bathroom. In 40 years of marriage we have never had a cistern that required anyone to pull a chain to flush, but it still sticks from when she a young girl I suspect.
mitch13815 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "epic." It's dropped off pretty hard since the mid 2000s, but it's supposed to mean something that is massive beyond belief in it's length, story-telling, reach, etc...
PM_ME_UR_GALLADE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up for phones. You don't physically hang up a phone like you did when it was on a wall, yet we still say "hang up."
thetannenshatemanure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
beagle701 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. Now all car Windows are electronic.
turbo8891 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down your car window" complete with hand cranking motion.
Somehow, updating the gesture to just aggressively point down doesn't seem right.
georgedubyabush43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
dukesinatra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cell Phones / Cellular Phones The term is a bit of a misnomer, if not obsolete. Cellular technology original referred to the layout of network / relay towers and the corresponding coverage area, that when visualized, resembled an actual cell. The term really has nothing to do with the phone itself, but rather the physical layout of the network towers. Even then, that principle is no longer completely valid.
dnizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Politically correct. At least in the US...
mauriciolazo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
noisyturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meta. It's so far removed from it's original definition it's taken on an entirely different meaning.
ZombiAcademy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down/up a car window (though TECHNICALLY rollers still control it, we don't use cranks anymore) Clicker (for TV remotes)
Damdamfino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
Pointing at your wrist to ask what time it is.
chutzpahinheels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the windows." Today I was chaperoning a six grade field field trip. The 11 and 12 year olds wanted to "roll down the windows" on the bus because it's hot (in Texas). I don't think any of them ever rolled down a window.
slipperypeels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
Jewny24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the window. Iโm surprised no one said it already.
HotPantsRainDance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" up the window
lorellilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window. Not many cars still have the hand crank.
Overload175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Carriage Return." The term had relevance for typewriters, but is still used today
LSD_enthusiast7374 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Play. It used to be something that musicians did and somehow made it onto piece of technology as if you're allowing for improv and performance when really it's just a recording and nobody is contributing the the live nature of intellectual 'playing'.
Somehow 'play' has become some sort of synonym for 'go' or 'start'.
Hell it makes more sense to say I'm going to go play my car, then say go play a CD.
Muchraon415 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
bravom9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Headphones ๐
Edit: headphones instead of saying ear buds. Most phones like Apple or Samsung come with ear buds. It's weird to say ear buds.
I hate them, they always fall out of my right ear specifically.
ReggieStration ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume you mean when people call apple ear buds headphones, right?
bravom9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I was about to edit my comment and got distracted by my husband.
bravom9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the reminder :)
theantnest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Files and folders on a computer
IntensifyEVERYTHING ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. It's mostly all power windows now.
smartytrousers23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tape" ala I'm gonna tape that show.
mauriciolazo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A software bug.
On the beginning there were literally bugs messing around in the transistors of a machine, nowadays, we even have a ladybug icon for a code syntax error ๐ค
oxy160 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind up the window
GershBinglander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To ring someone. Old phones had bells that would ring when someone called.
scrungobeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
scrungobeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Use your turn single
Wood_floors_are_wood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Martin_Luther_King_J ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Avoid like the plague.
SolasLunas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gay.
I'm surprised not to see that one on the top.
It's been around for at least 800yrs and didn't mean "homosexual" until the last century.
TaischiCFM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sound like a broken record. I get nothing but confusion when it slips out.
jacksonco16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B-side is used to refer to artists songs that arenโt as popular, even though b-sides from vinyl havenโt been relevant in over 25 years
Whyyoufart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Fire it up"
FalconTonguePunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"awesome"
notaleclively ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dropping dimes.
ardyzison ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
FightingIrish10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know this one is in the stages of death, but, "roll the window up/roll up the window" referring to the handle in a car used to literally roll the window up or down. Biggest difficulty in the summer without AC trying to reach to all four doors and get each individual window rolled down
SusanxStrange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still call recording "putting it on tape", and sliding faders "pots" (potentiometers). -work in radio
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower. Speaks for itself
kingciuciu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hangup the phone!
RenegadeBS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a broken record!!!
Photodude82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filming, as in "I was filming my cat on my phone."
Taping, as in, "I couldn't watch the show so I taped it."
Padawan22177 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows. I actually had my sister all about this...
GabeDef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
sydneyfrayling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the the window" RIP the crippling arm pain from closing a non-automatic window in your car
IAmA_TheOneWhoKnocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window." Took awhile before I realized its literal meaning.
karusu88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back to the drawing board
beatles910 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Turn on" and "shut off" these are terms that are still used but literally obsolete. When you "shut" off a light you are no longer closing a gas valve.
pistonrings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In movies the criminal always asks "Are you wearing a wire?"
Before tape recorders and radio transmitters were small enough to conceal easily, the only concealable recording device would work by magnetically saving the audio onto a thin strand of wire. The audio quality was terrible because the wire is prone to stretching and corrupting itself. That's why nobody records on wire anymore.
Tiny_cancer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunrise.
AnthonySlips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the window"
kkinnison ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a phone number
OldVMSJunkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Highly recommend "America's Secret Slang". It was on the History Channel and you can probably find it on YouTube. Hours of great stuff.
Fizzlerr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In computer science when a storage device is made visible and accessable to the operation system it is called "mounting" the storage medium. For example your USB drive probably mounts automatically when you insert it.
This is an old term from back when all storage was on heavy tape reels that needed to be physically mounted on the machine to be read and written to.
skymcgowin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about "roll down the window" in your car even though we have had power windows since the 80s
ErroneousJester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over the hill. -ww1 reference. Lots of idioms English speakers say came from the great war
jess__r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window" in a car. Nowadays we have them newfangled buttons that do the hard work for us
laruefrinsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clocks wind and unwind.
thecinnaman123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same reason we say "computer bug" or "hang up the phone". The language developed when our the function the technology performed was new. Then, new tech comes along that replaces it, but the language changes because changing what you call the same feature is more work.
Similar idea behind "sunrise" and other weird language features as well. I doubt we would have come up with that term if we started with the knowledge we have now.
Playamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We use "Roll Tape" every day in video production.
therealkameroonie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down.
Nik_Tesla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uppercase and Lowercase refer to when we used the printing press.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up a window
heresjonnyyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling upโ the window in a car.
ZippoS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked /r/linguistics about this a couple years back. These words are examples of semantic change, or more specifically, semantic expansion
A lot of words follow this, especially those associated with technology are still use today... because they have changed relatively recently.
Taping or filming something, rewind... it's really not that long ago that we used VHS tapes for everything.
We still dial numbers on a phone, despite them no longer having rotary dials.
We copy, cut, and paste on computers, whereas a couple decades ago, you'd physically cut and paste pieces of paper to make an ad or document.
The term font derives from Middle French fonte "[something that has been] melted; a casting". The term refers to the process of casting metal type at a type foundry.
The terms to boot or reboot a computer originates from the early says when the process was likened to an old saying, "picking yourself up by the bootstraps" โ referring to a horseman who lifts himself off the ground by pulling on the straps of his boots. This set of initiating punch cards was called "bootstrap cards". Thus a cold start was called booting the computer up.
Devices are turned on or off, from when we used to physically turn a switch.
Music tracks used to be different physical tracks on recording material.
TheBlueSoap02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll up the window(s)" for cars etc... when is the last time a new vehicle in North America came with roll up windows standard or optional after 2002?
PedanticPinniped ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The audio world is full of them. Now theyโre not necessarily 100% obsolete, since people still roll tape and cut records on vinyl, but even in fully digital studios they still hang around.
Phrases like โWeโre rollingโ obviously refers to tape, and โwe just cut a recordโ goes back to physically cutting vinyl on a cutting lathe. โCuttingโ or โsplicingโ something (in editing) comes from when your edits were actually physically on tape. To โpunch inโ a recording over the top of an already-recorded part is a little more ubiquitous, but it did used to be a matter of having your tape op โpunch inโ and then โpunch outโ the record button on the remote.
Similarly, a lot of the functions in audio software or digital mixing desks just kept the old names from tape machines. The โtransportโ functions (locate/shuttle, rewind, play) just came straight off the tape machine remote, where they โtransportedโ the tape. Any input/output rearranging you do is still a โpatch,โ despite not having a physical patch bay. You still record-arm or record-safe tracks, despite not having to actually engage write heads anymore. Some DAWโs like Pro Tools let you set VCA masters to control groups, despite Pro Tools obviously not even needing a voltage control amplifier.
Canโt tell you everyone calls everyone else โcatโ though... Those cats are odd
garvisdol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I catch myself saying I "taped" something on my DVR.
Boots1303 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โAre you taping this?!โ
garmark_93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spin Up a server.
IndyJones88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
_wrennie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling" down the window. Had a kid ask me why it was called that a while back..
rhwodh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say " tape it " when I want to record something on TV.. !!
FierceDeityLinkk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll down the window"
FaderFiend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โCutting vocalsโ in the recording studio. Referring to tape of course. While still done, itโs quite rare.
colterpierce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"video tape" or to "tape" rather than just record.
milocunis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
DavaLlama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Graveyard shift.
robaq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slideshow. Today it means a powerpoint presentation but when i was really young i remeber my dad shooting and projecting actual slide film.
Beatle_Matt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a lot of my friends still say โI taped itโ when they PVR a show from the night before.
No one uses VCRs anymore, but we all still say that we taped it instead of PVRd it
CommunistRiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
LizLemonSpaceman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Album.
Iโm only 37 but it used to be album, tape, and then CD. Now we have MP3s, downloads, and digital copy. Iโve decided to be stick with album to cover every thing music related.
ReggieStration ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Albums are still used though....am I missing something?
LizLemonSpaceman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโve worked with a number of teens and young adults over the years that laugh when I describe an album. Depending on where some kids grow up, albums just arenโt a part of their lives.
Rawlgnd19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. When you had to crank the car window up or down
pwu1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/TodayILearned anyone?
notsocrazycatlady101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape, as in "tape the show off the tv for me". Don't use tapes anymore, it's all hard drives or DVDs
tolegittoshit2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll your windows up.
call the house.
profpoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Things that Iโve recorded on my DVR. Podcasts. My measuring tape when Iโm done with it. Some string I like to keep in a wound up bundle.
Bo Selecta!!
tenaciousNIKA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tv channel often still use the phrase"don't touch that dial, we'll be right back"
RahBren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turning the channel. Referred to turning the channel knob on old tv's.
DHallahan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up that window
vardx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Knots, as a measurement of speed, literally used to mean knots tied on a length rope dragging behind a ship.
Gtandecki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your window.
Yokai_Alchemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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lonemonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We always called it beige-box but the concept is identical
avroots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and Paste. Similarly if you work in photoshop you may become familiar with terminology like โdodgingโ and โburningโ to lighten or darken areas of an image. Cut and paste refers to literally physically cutting parts of a document and gluing it to new drafts. Dodging (making lighter) and burning (making darker) refer to darkroom techniques used with photo prints with an enlarger where you manipulate the light exposure on your print to change the final image.
DivaJanelle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I miss, sometimes, dodging and burning in the darkroom. Plus locking myself in there for a couple of hours at the paper to get away from the rest of the staff :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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programming_unit_1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โmotor carriageโ (now just โcarโ) as opposed to horse drawn . Not so much a nickname as necessary disambiguation.
Ginkodes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs not really a word, but most people still use the pinky and thumb out thingy handsign for โcall meโ or signaling to use the phone, even tough we donโt have cellphones with antennas anymore
averagejoereddit50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dial"
stravant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Drivers" even for computer hardware that's entirely solid state and doesn't have any motors / other moving parts to drive.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, a lot of computer terminology is meant to be symbolic I think. Same thing with terms like "kernel", "slave" and "master"
Khelek7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the Nautical Terminology post below, there is a whole slew of phrases that refer to how people think that are left over from various ages of technology!
Steam Power: * Steamed up. * Hot headed. * Let off some steam.
Electricity/Early Computing * Short Circuit * Brain fried * Caught in a Loop
There are some others from pre-steam, but at the moment I am blanking on them... (maybe that is one?). Its interesting as these phrases enter our lingo with the technology, and how we map our minds on to the new new thing. Then still use these phrases even though we don't interface with the technology so much anymore.
Dibiddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboard and shotgun for cars
you-cant-twerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hanging up" the phone.
Jarsky2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally literally never means literally anymore, and contrary to the beliefs of grammar snobs, that's okay.
lgm1219 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โDialโ the telephone
JTierney1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โLOLโ used to mean laugh out loud, but now itโs core relevance is just to show that you werenโt too serious about what you said. Lol
brta06 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:23:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're an idiot lol
ostaveisla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape, like "you got that on tape?" when recording something, mostly on digital media.
Loreen72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Books on tape.... I listen to Audible.com books during my daily commute but still tell people I listen to books on tape.
Hang up... we don't hang up the receiver on the hook anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thou-tchou, does the train.
grrl-with-cancer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a director, I say โfade to black, roll cart.โ The technical director then pushes a button to fire off the computer. โCartsโ for commercials havenโt been used for a very very long time.
JRoop1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โI got it on tapeโ
inebriusmaximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clicking on a diskette icon to save to a cloud.
RickAndMorty101Years ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if anyone noted this already, but this concept is related to skeuomorphs.
c3534l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Government documents are no longer bound in red ribbon/tape.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up
oneanddonedaddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dating
zmach1n3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still use rewind all the time, only to 'rewind' motors rather then VHS. Sometimes the coils are so burnt/bad it's the only way to save the motor.
quadrobust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial the phone
gibson_mel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videotape. Video used to be analog media (e.g. video tape, 8-track tape, audio cassette tape, etc.), hence linear, requiring rewinding and fast forwarding. Digital media has eliminated the requirement of fast forwarding and rewinding, as it is non-linear (able go to any point in the media with a click of button, and not having to wait to scroll through to a point on the "tape").
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videotape it.
Waitdev_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โDaddyโ
Chokeadozendonkeys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โI bags thisโ Iโve heard kids still saying this. It was from mid last century. Woman would put their handbag on a chair and that was a way of claiming that seat at a movie, dance, show etc
jbsgc99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" and "film" come to mind.
schumi_f1fan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When someone records something with their phone or dash-cam and shouts triumphantly, "I got that on tape!"
iAmLawBringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "literally" has lost literally all of its meaning ;)
Hardlymd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taping. We still are 'taping' shows on tv.
FogSeeFrank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm gonna film ____. Sweetie, itโs an iPhone not a super 8 ๐โโ๏ธ
Veloci_faptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"To tape." It's a phrase still commonly used in music/audio recording even though tape is hardly ever used nowadays.
Dope_train ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In show calling for events we still say 'go vt' even though it's all digital.
halkyra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to google RECORD after seeing your rewind. I was hoping its origins had to do with rope but...
Middle English: from Old Frenchย recordโremembrance,โ fromย recorderย โbring to remembrance,โ from Latinย recordariย โremember,โ based onย cor,ย cord-ย โheart.โ The noun was earliest used in law to denote the fact of being written down as evidence. The verb originally meant โnarrate orally or in writing,โ also โrepeat so as to commit to memory.โ
PassivelyMassive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โSaved by the bellโ. This term actually originated centuries ago, when we lacked the technology to determine whether someone was dead or not. To prevent folks being buried alive, people would be buried with a bell on the tombstone and a string going through the ground and into their coffin, which would ring if the body moved, letting gravediggers know that the person was still alive. Hence the term, โSaved by the bell.โ
arcxjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people don't realize this, but the heartbeat wasn't invented until 1936.
rixbubblelesstrouble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people "tape" things on their DVR
imtotallyhighritemow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost everything? Etymology is basically one set of humans relating to their environment attempting to find utility in communication and doing anything they can to achieve it.
MgFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Broadcasting" was originally something you did with seeds.
hvyboots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The clock is ticking.
Sconn13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not necessarily a "term", but the floppy disc used as the save button. Kid's just know that icon as the save button, but not what it actually is.
xerker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The print screen key on a keyboard was originally for printing out a copy of everything on screen.
Now it's just for screenshots. It's not a coined term but it certainly has evolved from its original use.
Freeagnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taped
odimus32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
SaltyDashound6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Greg just Greg who uses Greg these days I think only me not a joke donโt @ me
CrissCross98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any streaming device. "Rewind to that last scene."
ancient_mariner63 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial the phone
dvali ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a word but the save icon in almost all software is still a floppy disk even though they haven't been in common usage for well over a decade, and many computer users have never seen one.
b0atFan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A computer bug. We call it this, because sometimes old computers, the room-sized ones, sometimes wouldnโt work properly because bugs would crawl into them.
Sammy1Am ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "bug" actually predates computers, and predates the first recorded instance of an actual bug being found in a computer.
Joemamma75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
HookerofMemoryLane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down
spikebrennan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โDialโ in reference to a phone. Heck, the shape of the phone icon is obsolete.
Toasted_Potooooooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows. With almost all cars having electric windows nowadays, the term is kinda outdated. Some of us still remember having to reach halfway across the car to crank the knob while swerving through traffic to let the bee out of your car
skuzzlebutt123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up your windowsโ makes an appearance here and there still
Gumbercules1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horse power... one HP doesnโt even equal one horse. I just donโt get it
vladtaltos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bless you" when someone sneezes...
PeacekeeperAl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hoist by his own petard
flickerkuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
majol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Romance. Used to mean "in the Roman style".
lipplog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filming.
BrokenSpectr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shutter sound
Xellith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over here we say "Flush the chain".
How can you flush a chain?
There is usually a handle or a button these days!
JocularPig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word broken
judgej2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter mentioned something about our hoover the other day. We don't have a Hoover. We have a Dyson and a Meile. We have never had a Hoover in the house for her entire life, and I've always talked about the vacuum cleaner (yes, fun times) but it's still got that name left over from two generations ago.
ReggieStration ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Riding shotgun"
arcxjo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've never been through Detroit.
slow_reader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a world where donuts cost more than a dollar, the term "dollars to donuts" doesn't make much sense.
Mystic_Crewman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can get at least 1.5 donuts for a dollar at my local donut shop.
slow_reader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are they any good?
Mystic_Crewman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Very.
Burritozi11a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tim Hortons donuts typically cost a dollar
slow_reader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus tax.
R3TROFAN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'GET IN ZE OVEN'
My mom still says this while putting gingerbread people in little pyjamas in the oven.
notPR0Hunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ta-ta(bye-bye)....No one uses it anymore except me
TheRedLayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Checkout. At least for me. I buy 99% of my stuff online.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:32:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...do you think brick and mortar stores just don't exist anymore?
TheRedLayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're losing relevance. They're still here in good quantity, but they'll the way of the blockbuster video rental stores in 5 or so years. It's kind of neat watching it happen.
In current times, you can order pretty much anything online and just have it Brought to you. This is actually fairly significant in the long term. As brick and mortar stores become less and less relevant, it'll have huge impact over things like city planning and land development. There will always be stores, just like how you sometimes see privately operated video stores, but they'll be a novelty.
Think: people can either take out a massive risky business loan to start up a business that'll just get crushed my Walmart or Amazon, or they just sell stuff on eBay, Etsy or even Amazon itself. Physical locations are being allocated to the Internet.
This is important, because we're going to need space to accommodate more and more people as we inch closer to another billion people.
Hell, give it enough years, and the idea of "going to work" will be going down the hallway from your bedroom to your office.
The idea of "checking out" will become obsolete. The shopping cart will go the way of the floppy disk. A universally understood symbol from a bygone era.
That's the way I see it, anyways.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's just a lot of stuff humans use on a daily basis where waiting 2-3 days for shipping just isn't viable though. Like food. Check out is here to stay man
TheRedLayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get the majority of my food online :P
Only time will tell if that becomes dominant.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations
TheRedLayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you.
HeavyMetalCircus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The acronym โDJโ stands for Disc Jockey. The majority of DJโs today use audio mixers, in lieu of actually records or CDโs
Mystic_Crewman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Digital jockey could be the future
MACKSBEE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you rolling when you roll down the window?
jacksawild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The window rollers.
allibaby2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โTurn offโ the light referred to actually turning off the gas that used to be used to light a home. Iโm in a class at my university currently where all we do is explore this sort of thing. Itโs called the power of precedent.
moo4mtn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone. The majority of calls are ended by a button, not physically dropping a phone on its base.
Ggodhsup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang" up the phone.
Bowlamat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up/down the window.โ Very few new vehicles still have a hand crank.
BenLoren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In TV production (UK at least) any part of a live show recorded prior to broadcast is called a VT because the pre-recorded segment used to be on Video Tapes. Now it is, of course, digital but "VT" is still around.
Also, lower thirds or supers can be referred to as Aston / Aston Straps because that used to be the name of the machine that made them.
BigBird36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. With the exception of a few old vehicles that are still on the road, most cars no longer have a manual crank to adjust the height of the window.
LikeASchnook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The media are still often referred to as "the press" even though many organizations don't even print anything on printing presses anymore.
nightmarecrow_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cars today don't have to "roll the windows up"
ObviouslyAvi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang-Up Technically used for corded phones...
LordCrawleysPeehole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Album.
Whats_Up4444 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are called Movies, in the same way they were called Talkies
Offroadkitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window.
FactOrFactorial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window.
Not many hand cranked windows in cars anymore.
encpy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down.
lbutler0000107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down" the car window
geodesic-925 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hanging chads", at least i hope they are gone.
OneAndOnlyJackSchitt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Default"
Literally a setting on a machine which causes it to not "fault".
I've been told that 'default' has French origins and is not a root word 'fault' with the prefix 'de-', but seeing as 'fault' is short for 'falter' and French and English share common Latin origins, I'm disinclined to believe the 'default' doesn't literally me to remove faults from a machine.
Trell3k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Default is the basic setting programmed by the manufacturer de - without, and fault - failure
Callico_m ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Freeze the balls off a brass monkey."
A brass plate was used to hold cannon balls on some ships. It was called the monkey. In colder weather, it would contract, causing cannon balls to fall off.
arcxjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard it only tastes def when you pour it on ice, though.
k3nnyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Paraphernalia" used to mean the property owned by a married woman.
Scoopie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We Still "dial" telephone numbers, even though it's no longer a dial.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window in the car.
BadMrMister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but same neighbourhood: when someone taps their wrist to ask for the time
Trell3k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a wristwatch and my brother uses that handy pocket in his jeans for his pocketwatch
mltv_98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling, cut, check the gate, speeding,
Mr_Rivera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
Chicago_Blackhawks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to cut, when referring to editing a film.
Kinglm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"rolling" the car window down
MoreCowbellllll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say "album" whenever someone comes out with new music.
leejoness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say Iโm going to โtapeโ a tv show even though Iโm 30 and have had DVR for years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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arcxjo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma died about a year and a half ago. Up until the day before, she had a single (once-)blank VHS cassette that she would record Days of Our Lives on every day, then rewind it on Friday and begin taping over on Monday.
The astute reader will notice I never mentioned anything about watching it.
leejoness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember doing this with every episode of Power Rangers.
thepenguinking84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down/ wind down the window.
Pluckt007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but a computer icon. My students do not know what a floppy disk is. The save icon is a square to them...
Eccohawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
jamezmorrell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind up the window. Nowadays you just press a button, rather than hand cranking it.
ColeKeys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I record shows with my digital recorder, I alway say I am taping. I got the tape. The tape shows......
302HO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pump the brakes.
muzikfreakism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window as in literally rolling the window down.
Voyager5555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind
HashtagLootGet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โBugsโ In computer terms. My grandfather used to work with facility-sized computers in the 70s and there would routinely be literal moths nesting in the computers.
GoldieBox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alight: to descend from a horse or vehicle. I dont remember a time when i had to descend from a vehicle, I've always had to step up and out of my car.
unforgiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a telephone number
dnbVice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rewind gets used a lot though in the dnb scene :)
Arrowsend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Press start/pause. There's no button named that on any controller these days. It's plus, menu and menu on the Switch, Xbox One and PS4 respectively.
FormerlyLiarah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" down the window. It's electric now.
iFunnyN00b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the windows
aakib101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To hang up to phone. Now i just press press a red button on the screen angrily.
kurisu7885 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the window down"
I know there are still cars out there with the window crank, but still.
lordandsaviorryzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "savage"
CC_SirFagito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down your window. I havenโt seen a window you have to physically roll down in many many years.
mtarascio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is an Australian one, maybe British too.
But Bonnet is used as the 'Hood' of the car.
A bonnet is a little hat you'd put on a baby.
jpef0704 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
Most people know how the phrase originated but it would be reasonable for someone who has never ridden a car with roll up windows to not know how the term originated.
Grunvagr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tape it". Used like DVR'ing / TIVO/ or recording something to watch later. VHS tapes were used everywhere in the 80s-90s.
"I'm missing Must-See-Tv tonight!!!!! I guess I'll have to tape it."
Source: Am old, apparently.
ithilkir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tape" something off the TV (might be a more British one)
dabauss514 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A computer bug, it was coined when some programmer(I forgot who) found a real bug in their computer which caused it not to work.
Another word - coin, the verb, came from a die, because there was a die used to make coins. This came from a mix of french and English.
mirrormanmirrorme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In recording people still say โrollingโ even though tape isnโt much of a thing anymore
devolvxr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Putting something to tape, like when you record something to your DVR. Most people aren't using analog tape anymore for video i assume.
mtlaw2524 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your car window
ArtworkByJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling down the windowsโ We no longer use a physical crank to put the windows up or down, now we just use a button.
DetroitConcealment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone. As in the old rotary dial.
StoneageRomeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind down the window.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ROLL DOWN THE WINDOWS
bellatesla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my 5 year old what does "rewind" mean? She said it means to go back to the beginning. I thought that was a good answer for someone who has never seen a cassette or VHS. But I also realized in gaming we use "rewind" time as a game mechanic like in Dirt 2 so the concept is still there it just does not refer to tapes anymore.
hashtagmomfail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down your window.โ My daughter asked me to explain that one once already.
Andre625 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window !
the_baked_potato_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Swingbalalala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window..
locks_are_paranoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clockwise, since analog clocks are a thing of the past.
Ethan6304 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queer used to mean weird
Dr_Rosen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
door threshold
lovinglogs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. Yea there are still card with roll up windows but a lot now a days are power
Twisted_Nerve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
leafbreath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone, get on the internet (where always on...)
scamperly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank God
Bananafanafofana63 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your car window.
I havenโt seen a car with a hand-rolled window in a long time.
CageAndBale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling in showbiz, when we're recording.
nevereverreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Logging in originally referred to an actual log.
HLtheWilkinson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check the tape.
drxo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial as in Butt-dial
kompt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a word, but the "save" icon is still a diskette
wmccluskey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told car is short for carriage.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even with cars that have power windows we still say to "roll up / roll down" the window.
katibear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. We dont crank windows down anymore.
Reagonlol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Threshold. It used to be literally a raised portion of the door to prevent the straw floor from being tracked out.
Dead Ringer was someone who was buried alive due to poisoning (Tomatoes were relatively new to Europe, and the pewter dishes got eaten away by the acid in tomatoes. Combined with drinking, this often lead to black out drunk that looked like death. So when they dug up caskets for re-use, they found claw marks on the roof of some of them. This lead them to install a bell when they buried someone, in case it was a false positive. Someone would have to stay all night after burying someone, to listen for the bell. This spawned 2 other phrases, saved by the bell and graveyard shift.
It is also of note that they moved to a better method of checking to see if someone was dead or not - they'd put them on a table and throw a huge party to see if they would wake.
I have more. :)
curtmandu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollingโ down a car window. Granted. A lot of base models still have hand crank windows, but you definitely donโt see them often
da_mootin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up. Unless you actually want one, new vehicles come with electric window motors.
mgmcderm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your horses
daredaki-sama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word counterfeit used to mean a perfect copy.
The_Original_Gronkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your car window. We even have a hand gesture that we still use.
motherwarrior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Down to stems and seeds.
wmccluskey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"cell phones" were short for cellular telephones. Today we really don't use cellular networks (have switched to digital).
jonincalgary ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cellular refers to the antenna infrastructure. As in a specific tower servers a cell shaped area and if you transition to another tower it serves another cell shaped area. As we are not using a single monolithic antenna to serve the entire region, it is still cellular. The frequency and transmission types don't have anything to do with the concept of cellular networks.
wmccluskey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for correcting me!
TIL: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/09/how-the-cellular-phone-got-its-name/245173/
cgi_bin_laden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I bought ___________'s new record today."
AlsionGrace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly the same thing, but the word โbroadcastโ was appropriated for the then new technology, but originally described a way to throw seeds for farming.
youwontevenbelieve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Measurements like feet and hands Theyโre standardised now
RedMapleLeaf67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hanging up" when ending a phone call
pepperonihotdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drugs are bad.
michaelbusterkeaton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Podcast.
williambueti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Scrolling" on computers.
MJJVA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lots young people are not sure what tube means in youtube
ChessyLogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down. If youโre really young you might not know you had to actually roll the window down.
antithesisofnormies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase โpull upโ.
Though we still use the term in the athletic sense, itโs use in colloquial speech has become the norm for the aforementioned phrase.
sirgoofs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pickup trucks with 4 wheels in the back instead of just 2 are still referred to as "one tons", even though they can haul around 4 tons. It's just that when they first came out it was a big deal that with the extra tires they could support the weight of one ton of payload.
nerr0t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โroll down the windowsโ
itโs not so common to manually roll a window down as it is to simply push a button
assblaster69ontime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down window
EvilFerret55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up.
As in 'Hang up the phone.'
We push buttons now.
Moofininja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xeroxing things, the return button on a keyboard, floppy disks... We were just talking about this at work today lol.
Fplata98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In spanish the word "mareo" (motion-sickness) comes from the latin word for sea "Mare". Itยดs belived that is a direct relation of the spanish travels to the new world and the colonies to the spanish society.
Maasterix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this really counts but in my area (UK) most of the names derive from Norse words. However, there hasn't ever been any archaeological proof that they were in the area. SO the only proof we have is the names which are still in use and are very similar to Germanic and Dutch words of today.
emrducks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Play that video."
Town10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Correct weight' in reference to money handling. 'That'll be $7.50, sir.' 'Yep, I've got the correct weight.' It's an old horse racing term. It least that's what the regulars tell me.
lovethemstars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clockwise -- from pre-digital clocks, whose had hands went in a circle. And why in that direction? because that's how time goes around a sundial (in the northern hemisphere).
Log in โ from logbook, a book for recording readings from the chip log, which showed a shipโs speed.
Roll up the window โ from cars with crank handles.
Whet your appetite โ from whetstone, used (when wetted) for sharpening blades.
goodtimesrollon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling up" the windows in your car
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
Jrodguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
" Hey bro! Video-tape me chug this gallon of milk!"
Critical_Mass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
News being 'hot off the press'.
troyzein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When TV shows say "stay tuned" or "don't touch that dial".
raemember ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
Catcatcatmeowdies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
''Pulling'' a shot of espresso. Back in the days they use steam pressure to extract espresso and had to pull an lever. nowadays most machines are automatic with a button.
Spirtwalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows, for when they weren't automatic.
soulkraken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The trunk of a car. Back when, they used to be actual trunks attached to the back of a car, not built in.
five01st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone is one I hear often
Jessee75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something being "beyond the pale" refers to an ancient use of pale as a boundary marker that may date as far back as the ancient Celts but definitely dates to Old English usage.
AUGA3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fax. Most businesses now use a web based service to send a fax, and the receiver usually is too. Itโs just that some industries still see a fax as a secure method of transmission,like for medical docs.
BlackV8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best answer is literally the word "literally"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the save icon
TieWebb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filming
rmeas002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hysterical usually means something was extremely funny now.
But it literally means someone suffering from hysteria, a person suffering from uncontrolled and extreme emotion. Female hysteria was once a medical condition and it comes from "hysterika" which is Greek for uterus. Women would sometimes be admitted to insane asylums and even had hysterectomies performed on them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fill 'er up with unleaded, please.
JulesWallet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Modern cars have power windows where you just press a button. "Press the button down the window" is clunky.
jbsgc99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, but there's no film used as most films are recorded digitally.
damianstuart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being on tenter hooks (usually said as tender hooks now) was a reference to children walking on cloth to stretch it. The cloth was held on hooks over machinery, if it broke the child faced serious injury and so was very worried.
mfg_colour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rolling down the windows
RedditSkippy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a phone.
HanFrodo84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phoneโ and โturn the channelโ
herky21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone at my office says DVD when they are referring to any kind of video.
barneyskywalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Zadaryrox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up. Cell phones don't use receivers to hang up with.
seoulstyle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
Dante521 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โroll upโ the windows
Vaganhope_UAE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
PeteTheLich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: everything about movies
ranting_atheist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shutter. Cameras now, at least ones that don't use film don't have shutters, but a lot do make a shutter clicking noise and have shutter icons. I'm 21 and worked with film cameras in a high school class. I don't think people know how much work went into developing film or how easily you could mess stuff up. I can only imagine being handed an entire roll of vacation photos to develop. Fuck that.
Ikedadogbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many of my peers in the music industry still refer to recording as "cutting a record".
danidexter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial tone. Doesnโt exist anymore.
CitizensOfArkham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window damn it!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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5Skye5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rewind refers to actually winding the tape of a VHS back to where it started... aka โre-windingโ. There is no physical tape to rewind in any of our devices anymore.
russianbae7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
beanaa81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
sullyb103 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but the floppy disk save icon
luckybruinscap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "just desserts." Dessert in this context refers to something someone has earned-- think the same origin as "deserve." It's used exclusively to refer to post-meal treats and not in the literal sense anywhere else.
VirtualDeliverance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're mixing up two words. Although the pronunciation is the same as the word meaning post-meal treats, the expression referring to what someone DESERVEs is "just deserts". Spelled the same as the hot sandy place, but with a different pronunciation.
Instead, "dessert" meaning what you eat after the end of a meal is a calque from French "desservir", meaning "to remove the dishes from a table".
luckybruinscap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL!
coffeeonsunday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a term, but the act of saying "Hello?" when responding to a call. We all pretty much have call display.
violentmoreviolent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I donโt know anyone who answers the phone like that, unless they donโt know the number/itโs blocked. They usually just say โHiโ the way you would in person.
coffeeonsunday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not here! (Canada)
ashenmagpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, I have a good one. Correct this if itโs wrong, I got it from a secondhand source, but the term โnimrodโ originally meant hunter. It was used this way initially in the Bible, and fell out of style for a while. However, in Looney Toons, bugs bunny would call Elmer Fudd a nimrod, ironically, since he was literally a hunter, but it took on the meaning as someone who was an idiot.
barneyskywalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โTapingโ something, in reference to film or analog tape
shutdown924 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Log on." I hear this in commercials all the time. "Log on to www.ilivein1995.com to learn more." No one "logs on," this isn't Prodigy. I'm always connected. Just say "Visit www.iliveinthepresent.com"
TheLobshat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll Down The Window"
SmashnDashnClash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't "Roll Down" our windows anymore
amyria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Hang up the phone
Tacos4Trump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window!
bgoldgrab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film, tape, mixtape, record(noun), tune in/stay tuned(people don't really have a tuner anymore on their radio or tv),
PM_ME_PLANE_PICS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll your window up
FOXDIE1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up or down a car window
Puffessor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up the phone. Pick up as if it's still sitting on a receiver.
VirtualDeliverance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But if you're not currently holding it in your hands, you still need to pick it up to answer.
Puffessor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Ok Google, ignore call."
rebel_l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window!
ninjalinesman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A 'threshold' I believe in super-old houses/huts was a length of timber along the entrance that would literally 'hold' the 'thresh' (straw) that was used as a floor covering for comfort.
VirtualDeliverance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. https://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.asp
GardaGetOutOfMeGaff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This thread is fucking with my head, I don't know what I'm supposed to call things anymore.
SassyMoron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a lot in finance. They say a trade "hit the tape" when it is recorded officially by an exchange, because there used to be literally a ticker tape they were recorded on. There's another - a stock has a "ticker symbol" though of course there are no tickers anymore. Nonstandard trading venues are called "OTC [Over The Counter]" because there used to be store front brokerages where you could put your orders in with the man behind the counter if you weren't entitled to trade at the actual exchange. When you send money between financial institutions it's called "wiring" because they used to be standardized telegraph instructions that went over a wire. Etc.
SilverTrash2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ENHANCE IMAGE
swirly023 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut Copy and Paste
notenoughnamespace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's just groovy.
sigilvii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the other hand, I've noticed everyone decided as a group to begin calling VCRs VHS players, and I missed the memo.
(It's because we now have DVD players and Blu-ray players).
VirtualDeliverance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:40:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
VHS players used to be a thing. They could play video cassettes, but they lacked the electronics for recording.
dannondanforth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To xerox something. Also, Kodak moments.
Styphelus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The saying "You sound like a broken record" - a lot of young people don't know what it's like to listen to a scratched record that keeps repeating itself.
digg_survivor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phone.
justmemike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll down" your windows we don't roll the down anymore
todayismyluckyday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To "video tape" or "film" something.
pomer1436 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a number.
Teflon93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial. Tune in. Appointment. Sick day.
BrokelynNYC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clarify appointment and sick day?
kevvyL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling Down your window
backtolurk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Wait, don't hang on!"
gaporkbbq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phone. Talking is one of the least used functions of a smart phone.
StayBlazed306 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people โhackโ each otherโs Facebook accounts...
Joseluis015x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
mamacyclops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll upโ the window. Most cars have electric windows now and this term refers to rolling the handle that old cars (and few newer cars) have
skettinet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is the word for these kinds of words again? I expected a smartass answer in the comments but you guys disappoint. .+.
Dankiest_Of_Memes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Impeachment"
sisyphusjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down (as in Windows!)
loosemoose7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
OracularLettuce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huge diesel powered tanker ships still set sail despite the fact that the age of sail ended a century and a half ago.
oxygenfrank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"pick up" or "hang up" the phone.
mdgraller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ambulance comes from the French "hopital ambulant" meaning "walking hospital"
LORD_JEW_VANCUNTFUCK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โClickโ while using mobile phones
NarcissistMargarine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Turning off the Lights" being a reference to turning the valve off for gas-powered lamps.
lunal0vebad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Photographs. The word was created in the 1800's, roughly meaning from "drawing with light" (sourced from the Greek language.)
The process at this point in time involved exposing asilver-plated copper sheet to iodine vapor, creating a layer of light-sensitive silver iodide; exposing it in the camera for a few minutes; developing the resulting invisible latent image to visibility with mercury fumes; then bathing the plate in a hot salt solution to remove the remaining silver iodide, making the results light-fast.
We still use "photographs" even though the process and quality has changed so much.
dalenacio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window.
This one is impressive because even to some of the kids too young to have ever sat on a car with lever windows (I know, I feel old too), both the term and the accompanying gesture are universal.
coberst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite is roll the windows down. I told my niece that and she asked what do you mean? I felt old.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling a window up or down
TTallman99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ down the window
Harry-le-Roy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mean," in the sense of being unkind. In its original sense it meant "common" (a definition that sort of persists in math), and meant something indicative of people of lower or "common" social classes.
RylandoS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window
hapsicecreamstand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video tape. We no longer use a tape for our recordings!
CapitanChicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll the window down" while in a car. Very few cars have manual windows anymore.
As well with that, "tuning to a radio station." There's no need anymore when you're just pressing a button.
nosam42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using the verb "tape" instead of "record" is something I've done from time to time
HopeNull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To "hang up" a phone.
Willard2566 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taping. "Did you tape that eith your phone?" I still hear people say "tape" when there's no tape involved.
GiantPretzel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the windows down
Bigboy_nicelegs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wet
standardize_human ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gentleman. Used to mean landowner.
Christian. Used to mean Christ like.
welniok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christian comes from ฮงฯฮนฯฯฮนฮฑฮฝฯฯ which means follower of Christ, so if it really meant someone like a Christ, then it just came back to it's original meaning.
VirtualDeliverance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Christ LIKE? As opposed to Christ WORSHIPPER?
snow-leopards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carbon copy - haven't seen an actual sheet of carbon paper in years.
BehindMySarcasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mixtape".
Avid_Smoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone.
com4tably_dum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Catch you on the flip side." The "flip side" was the B side of a music record
VirtualDeliverance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh... Oooooooh! So THAT is why the parallel dimension in that old trippy cartoon (Kidd Video) is called Flip Side!
smittybuns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone, from when you physically hung the ear piece back on the microphone stand. Just wouldnโt be right to say โdonโt you dare press the red phone button on me!โ
VirtualDeliverance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even saying "button" would be inaccurate.
smittybuns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a strange world we now live in
iCeaI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "CC" for additional mail recipients.
The "carbon copy" was the old way to create an immediate copy of a document and is still used sometimes today.
cool_now_reverse_it ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Free
GrandmaChicago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dial Tone" on your phone.
Phones don't have dials anymore, they have buttons or touch-screens.
TheNASAUnicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
alecraffi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the windows
remymartinia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. I donโt have any bootstraps so that must be my problem.
yaycoasttocoast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know that this expression is actually an oxymoron? It was used to make fun of anyone who thought that government was inefficient, through free-market capitalism alone you could literally pull yourself up by your boots, which doesnโt make sense, and thatโs the point.
demoran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save icon.
whiterook6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Full Steam Ahead
Bound-for-Glory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Threshold - a board of wood placed by the door to 'hold the thresh' in your house, thresh being a common form of flooring in the middle ages comprising of hay/straw/reeds that could be easily replaced once muddied by filthy medieval types
VirtualDeliverance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
False. https://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/1500.asp
Bound-for-Glory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddam, I'll never put my faith in a National Trust tour guide again. I was equally gutted last week to find out Corduroy didn't mean 'the King's cord'.
seredin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cracking up to refer to laughter
spindle_fibers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hanging up the phone, though itโs rarely on a wall anymore.
FERALCATWHISPERER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When football coaches or players say they are going to "watch film" they actually mean watch video. Games aren't shot with film anymore.
WilliamWaters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows. Back when windows had that hand crank
eyehate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videogame.
Lost_Seoul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window in a car.
RobbyKeezles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the windows.
I_Call_Top_Bunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the window down". Also the accompanying fist rolling hand motion.
Vino1980 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"im taping this" "i have it on film" "roll your window down"
aussersein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a number; Hanging up a phone.
Tewtea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
mesoziocera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a phone, Cranking a car, Shooting the bull (people used to actually shoot a bull every time they met for a conversation to appease the hero, Ron Swanson"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine called me out on being old when I said I "taped" something on TV (was actually a DVR recording). I had to remind him that he was the same age as me, along with an obligatory "fuck off".
Harry-le-Roy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Track," to describe a recorded song. This originally referred to the actual physical groove cut into a phonograph recording.
ThatsOkayToo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because "fast-backwards" doesn't sound right.
Teflon93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Appointment came from โat the appointed hourโ. Of course, now it means โsometime between noon and never.โ
Sick day was a whole day. In practice, for many it now means โI went to work sick todayโ.
You could argue โmeetingโ has lost its original relevance as it used to involve all participants being in the same physical space.
โCourtโ is no longer royal.
โFootballโ in the American context has very little to do with the feet.
To call someone used to be to physically visit them.
โRing somebody upโ to our British cousins used to involve an actual bellโ-it was in the telephone.
Television programs are not really for TVs anymore, watched as they are on phones and tablets.
For that matter, we speak of film, where in reality film as a physical media is virtually obsolete.
HairyJo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And knock me up doesn't like mean what it did in my mothers time. (knock on the door to wake me/get me to come)
boofekoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stay tuned...
HairyJo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a mountainous region I still have to cycle through three different, albeit pre set, stations to listen to my radio over an 80km drive. I'd say stay tuned is not yet out of vogue.
shakrbttle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang upโ the phone
SuzanneCascadia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a number.
noonvale12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar, the floppy disc as the Save icon
p3ngwin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"taped it" or "taping" or "got it on tape".
When recording on your mobile.
wpiman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
localalal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
liam1294 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"rolling" up or down the windows. Was relevant in old cars with the handle you would roll. Now all the new cars have electric windows with buttons
mavieo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video tape
VirtualDeliverance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I never used that, aside when talking about actual video cassettes. But there's a friend of mine who used to say "CD" when talking about any optical format, including DVD and Blu-Ray, and at first he didn't believe me when I told him that not every video game on an optical disc was on an actual CD. He also used to call DS cartridges "cassettes". Oh, and he was born in 1995.
mavieo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear it allllll the time. TV, family, etc.
ojoemojo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down/up the windows. We don't roll them down/up anymore, we just push a button and they go.
TheMightyBattleSquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows is an obvious one. Now you push a button.
gremalkinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window. I reme.mber being a little kid and thinking that that phrase woud be obsolete soon, but we still say it even thought now we use a button to roll up the car windows.
Oobinoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video Taping - everything is saved via Cards/HDDs now so saving a video to a tape is kind of dead and gone.
tmanni415 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a word, but a phrase:
"roll the window down/up" in cars with electric windows
Turkish_Farmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ
AlienX14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the window down"
Apollo_O ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
ChartruseShadow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling down the windows in your car" is one I'm going to have fun explaining to my kids eventually
RJ9225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Videotaping" when talking about recording video on a cell phone. I still say it from time to time myself though.
dmoore13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not one that's used "every day", but along the same theme, my German grandmother used to occasionally say "put out the lights". I'm thinking her brain must have been set to use that terminology in a time and place where candles and lamps were a more common source of light.
balls4xx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blow off steam. It's been a while since we routinely used steam engines for anything other than electricity generation.
exempli gratia: "Blow off some steam, Bennet." -John Matrix in Commando
PepperJack386 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because we don't have a better word for it, I would assume.
RemysBoyToy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Online. Most people access the Internet wirelessly, not over a line.
Lettuce-b-lovely ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind down the window. Unless youโre one of the blessed few who still uses a crank
CormacZissou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
kingofgods218 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dial" and "Cellphone"
Teknoman117 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"cellphone" still applies. A cellular radio network is a series of transmitters/receivers each serving a small area called a cell. Sure, modern day smartphones do a hell of a lot more than phone calls, but they still communicate primarily via a cellular network.
kgray1100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rolling up a window
ConsiderTheSource ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
DonRodigan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rewinds will always be relevant. Boh.
EskimoUlu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but there is no longer a physical tape to re-wind.
aaronpppppp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial this number.
Bowjingle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
WhakaWhakaWhaka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Movie Trailers.
Trailers were originally shown AFTER the movie was over. They trailed it.
So why havenโt we changed that shit?
thewarreturns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window
anymanfitness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say I'm going to tape something off TV.
tstorm004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite the same - but many applications still have a floppy disc icon to represent saving.
LexLuthorJr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would argue that the act of pouring someone a drink and saying "Say when" then getting the response "When" is so ingrained in our culture that it is no longer seen as a joke, but as just the common practice for that situation.
NotJebediahKerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I loved that game!
trashymob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Xan_derous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I caught it on tape!"
sykodiesel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video Tape. People still say they are going to Video Tape some shit with their phones.
Teknoman117 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always say record...
wheats_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the car window
luvintheride ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film at 11 Let's roll the Tape
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ the windows up even though theyโre electronic.
FakeGirlfriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window... or at least the international hand motion for 'roll down the window'.
VikingCoder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Despite meaning "distance sound," I did not use any audio at all today on my "telephone".
dhugunin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Randomn355 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'wind the windows down'. Car windows are electric now.
allnewusername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone!
Mabans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videotape. like โomg I got that all on videotapeโ
bbacher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Catch you on the flipside
Don't touch that dial
pass_nthru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tripping the light fantastic
monkey_scandal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "taping" was used for recording a show with a VCR, which made sense because you were putting the show onto a tape. Today I still hear people use it when recording onto a DVR.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ringtone, old phones used to have bells that would "ring". Phones these days just play audio samples (yes, some of them are bells).
lebensglueck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up the phone
winterhawk787 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I constantly live in old person fear that "turn the page" will fade away.
WaffleDogStanley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down a car window.
PlatonicBro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Start and Select buttons on video game controllers. In the past they were often literal functions to the game being played such as scrolling a menu or starting the game.
novachaos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window... are any cars made with a hand crank anymore?
IronicJeremyIrons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hang up for phones, crank the window
namestom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ride in the car.
Iโll sit in a seat and go with you though.
google-it- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll down the window
ericfromspace8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowsโ
Mrwaddlezzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
OuttaTheSideHatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Books on tape.
Robert_Rocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever my godson sees netflix or plex buffer he says it's "skipping" because he was raised on DVDs.
findallthebears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up
gakule ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debug. You don't have to have a team dedicated to picking live or dead insects out of computer components anymore!
crabbyshells ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down" the car window
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
Toadeyes_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window used to mean literally spin the crank to bring the window down and now its just a button but people still say roll then down.
sneakerguy323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
star 69
redditteachmehow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your windows.
Corpsehatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone.
Gullflyinghigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Pull the chain'.
Sure, some chain toilets are still kicking around but you're more likely to encounter a weird motion sensor/button style arrangement now.
Godzira-r32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL everything in this thread.
greg-michaelson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling up" the window.
NotJebediahKerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EA, It's In the Game
(except when it isn't)
work_q31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, Woman.
ButtercupsUncle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
any "your mother" insult. mine is dead.
ninjalinesman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Darn it, that made it into one of Bill Bryson's books!
Masaphotog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FILMING! Those who use this are ignorant.
Taffythecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a load of beeswax.
05fingaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When the DJ drops the big double bass drop during a drum & bass set
iyoussef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Literally" .
trigon_dark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"retirement"
EatyoLegs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nit pick Wig out Have your cake and eat it too Land ho
Capt_Smashnballs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs not really a term but, going through the motion of rolling down your window manually to get someone to open thereโs,
DeadAnthony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a term for this? Like "anachronidiom" or something?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Flatscreen" TV. There are no CRT TVs anymore. They're all flat.
Same for "wide-screen" TV, they're all 16:9 (or the rare 21:9).
atsugnam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of vernacular is from gun technology no longer in use:
Going off half cocked (flintlocks have a half cock for while you pod the pan, it can drop from there and fire while your still loading)
Flash in the pan - when the hammer drops, ignited the primer but fails to ignite the load
btine75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows
Professionalsimracin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most terms. Really. Test it. For a week, look up etymology of any word you can't explain ; which will be most words.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Goodbye" is a word that evolved from the meshing together of three words โ God Be With Ye.
meteoricmarlin1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but a gesture. That rolling arm motion when people want you to lower your car window.
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
most people will just make eye contact and point down.
meteoricmarlin1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've literally never had anyone do that.
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, ive never seen somebody do the arm in crircle thin except on tv.
Alexdykes828 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome and cool.
No offence but Americans these days overuse them way too much. I wouldnโt be surprised if some teenagers canโt speak a single sentence without โawesomeโ or โcool.โ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure words like this in all languages
MCDevoG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Converter instead of remote for your home entertainment devices. It might just be her in Ontario. The first way of switching. Channels from your couch was a device called a converter attached to a cable. It actually converted something to give you 28 channels instead of 13. People still constantly say give me the converter when they mean the remote control.
TheSleepingNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lighting industry - We still occasionally ask our board ops to spin a disk since everything used to use floppies.
monkeycomand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Loose Cannon
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is an idiom and does not fit in the context of this post.
monkeycomand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My deepest apologies!! I will commit my life to washing away this tarnishment of dishonor upon my family.
bows low
Please forgive me!!!!
Also... I was totally going through your comment history... Did you really just go through the this thread and prove people wrong?
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bich you better! Im a leaf on the wind, that floats its pointy stem straight down ya dickhole, baby.
fredandersonsmith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typing used to be printing letters on paper. Then came the type writer which let you print them as you go. Now we type on a keyboard and most of what we write will never get printed.
turbotoaster4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh SHIT?
DeepLunge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Blowing smoke up your arse" used to actually be a thing, not just a term to mean a ruse....
payne747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
sheldon_sa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kids donโt say โrewindโ, they say โforeward it backโ and I have to remind them every time that it doesnโt make any sense
sanchez599 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surfing the net and the World wide web.
Reaganson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Swipe" It used to mean steal.
MpVpRb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once a word becomes popular, it persists..for a long time, even long after the context becomes obsolete
EvlDave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa always told me that "The coast is clear" was a term from the bootlegging days.
Valmond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell-O
Or Fuck (Fornication Under Consent of the King, plates on the doors of bedrooms of some English Kings castle)
And of course , you SUCK( a boat term to describe how much your boat 'sucks' the water when moving forward, making that big hole behind it(on the time of sail ships). Bigger suck equals a slower boat all other parameters the same. You suck = you boat slow AF
lejefferson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much every word in the english language takes it's origin in some action that is no longer relevant.
A "movie" for example refers to a "moving picture" as opposed to a "still picture" because the concept of a picture that moved was so novel.
fifteengetsyoutwenty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
FTLGOD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the windows." Now it's just a button.
L1V1NGABORT1ON ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window. I asked a kid to roll down the window in my car and he didnโt know how to because the windows had the handle and not the button.
told-you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your car window
koolbus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
TheOracle2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taping something, we don't use vhs anymore we just hit the record button.
khaaleesii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rolling a window up or down
emjaysea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shoot video now and then. It's hard to talk about it without using terms that have no basis in modern video work, like rewind, as you mentioned, and footage, b-roll, clip, and no doubt more in not thinking of.
Goldving ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tapes are still used all over the place, rewind is still relevant. They're cheap and hold a ton of data, so they're a popular method of backing up data in a corporate environment.
robertt_g ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When was the last time you physically hung up a phone?
Landlines are still in use, but they're far less common and this term is making less sense with the ubiquity of cell phones.
socks_sandals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flashlight. Original name related to batteries and filament that needed to rest and then flashed.
ccaro41 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window
The_Spectator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bless you
People of all wakes of life use it mindlessly. And is seen as a good manors to use it. I'm sure I won't be possessed by a demon if someone doesn't bless me after I sneeze.
wikileakmypants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I videotaped that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone mentioned rolling your car window up or down?
sixsixeightsix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save icon in many programs, applications, and games is a 3.5 floppy disk. Tell me the last time you used one of those.
Sockratte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dodge and burn in Photoshop are named after a technique used in darkrooms while enlarging on paper.
After the first exposure you would use a piece of paper with a hole in it to expose only certain parts more than the rest - "burning" them made only those parts darker.
"Dodging" is the opposite. During the first exposure you would keep light away from certain spots. Often round pieces of paper attached to a stick were used which still can be seen in the photoshop tools icon.
rshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but the save icon is still a floppy disk.
bananalalagot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window. There's no more handle to physically roll the window down. Now you just push a button. But we still say roll the window down.
rex34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
BogeyFest99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
Bastardjones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish the โroll down the windowโ and โhang up the phoneโ people would read the farking thread before posting the same thing for the 500th time!!!
conrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Film", we don't use film anymore.
jacksonite22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saying โhang upโ a phone. People havenโt hung up telephone receivers since before cell phones became ubiquitous
Savage_112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filming, you're not really using film any more lol.
VeritasWay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
will never be the same
MrJuwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still refer to my refrigerator as an icebox.
DarrowTheTinMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My niece asked me why they call it "rolling up the window" in a car. Made me feel really old. I'm 18.
poloboi84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard people describe the # sign as "hashtag" rather than the"pound sign." It made me feel old.
RyouEmerada ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That one makes me upset. I hate it.
mbene913 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You talking about the octothorpe?
Yeldarbris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yer mom!
IceStar3030 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To film
FabioRodriquez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be kind, rewind
ForensicPathology ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a large number of English terms derived from baseball. While not quite outdated, they may as well be given the number of people who use them compared to knowledge of baseball.
ThaCommittee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still call the TV remote the clicker.
TheMighty200 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cool. fun fact, tv remotes still click.
BlueBedBugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom brought up villain. Apperntly it use to mean something a akin to villager.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. the mechanism has not changed, just the power source.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pushing a button is different than rolling a handle to lower a window.
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you were never rolling the handle. The pully system inside the door was rolling the window down, and that hasnt changed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling: moving by turning over and over on an axis.
What do you say you were doing to the handle if not rolling?
TheMighty200 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:15:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is irrelevant. Whether or not you roll a handle, you are rolling the drive train that lowers the window.
NemTwohands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bugs (As in Computer Bug)
It originates from when Grace Hopper had to remove a bug from her computer causing a problem, hence debugging
Kinslayer2040 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was the bug that Grace Hopper had to remove a Grasshoppper?
bencvm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The version of SAS I learned around 2009 still had you input data as "CARDS"
LotusPrince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In emails, to CC somebody. CC stands for "carbon copy," which used to be a literal thing when people needed to letters written on pieces of paper.
Also, when you get a phone call, the phone "rings." Ringtones still refer to this.
brinazee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard people start using "Courtesy Copy" for CC. Its meaning may change over time. But, yeah, I agree on the "Carbon Copy" being the original.
dave70a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"She hung up on me"
unwise32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carbon Copy (CC) and Blind Carbon Copy (BCC) are holdovers from when carbon paper was used for making duplicates of written or typed (typewriter) text.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSqzmAl8TDU
parkerwoof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I "read" you /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rolling down the window
danitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Making a "cut" in film or audio editing (as in "director's cut") comes from when you would have to physically cut the reels of film and tape them together to create the final product.
iPerfuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hang-up"..
chase_1003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"can you ~roll~ the windows down?"
duffry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, I've gone a fair way down the responses and not seen this so posting it.
Cut and Paste.
I used to work in a pre-press department for the local newspaper between the times of raised letterpress and fully digital. We would print the stories on bromide paper which gave very high contrast and lay out the pages. Sometimes this was a full page at a time as there were basic word processors used (Quark Express iIRC); often it was individual stories in single column widths.
We would then run this bromide paper through a roller machine to apply melted wax to the back of it and apply it to broad sheets of paper that the pages would be laid up on. If the story filled the page we would take out a scalpel, cut under the last line, carry the remainder over to the next page (yes, sometimes on a clipboard) and then paste it to the new sheet with the still tacky wax.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FILM. People say "film a movie" even though most people shoot digital now.
And don't forget the save icon in your word processor. Looks like a 3.5" floppy disk. Only people I know using those still run lighting consoles.
KeenX72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On film sets, when the camera starts recording we say "speed" or "speeding". With old cameras that actually used film you had to wait for the reels to spin up to speed (24fps) before it was actually recording. Now we use digital camera that record instantly.
fsbofplus1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people 'hang up the phone' despite not having to actually hanging up the phone
mikewozere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunrise.
certified_rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "save" button on the computer being a floppy disk
Oxalandrej ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing like a phone , it's no longer a dial. Nor do we "hang up" a phone
evenios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
High Definition, when its now considered a "lower resolution" by many computers ;-)
CorruptionOfTheMind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Now you press a button rather than cranking something
nesfor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saying โcut!โ at the end of a filmed scene (and, for that matter, using the word โfilmedโ). There is no more film to cut.
coZZeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imperial units, only used in few countries.
wylinmitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Most car windows now are automatic, and donโt require the handle to actually spin.
sybau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never hear anyone say rewind tbh.
kirkpatty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone" makes no sense anymore because all of our phones are now wireless, but it still feels so natural to say it
Saran-wrap-scallion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up, when talking about phones. You just hit a button instead of hanging the phone up on its base
ACharest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eject. It used to be used for VHS players, now people use it for USB drives on their laptops
blitterer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โIโm writing a paper on the computer.โ
There is no writing, there is no paper.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
samfabes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Audio clip
Grownass_maam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When us oldies say 'film that!', like on our smart phones. But clearly we don't use film anymore.
feministable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hashtag versus pound sign
mrzutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial the phone. No dials anymore
atomicocobutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Filming." 99% of the time we use digital devices to capture video now.
lupinedawg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โMixtapeโ
(Yes I already saw the one comment about film/tape, but I wanted to mention this one specifically)
Yella_mcfearson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. You used to have to hang the receiver to end the call. Now you just press a button.
Lictorvee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling up the windows" from the older cars where you actually had to physically roll up the windows rather than today's automatic system.
ohitslexii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling your windows down
atheistRN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling" down the window. Hanging up the phone.
singularineet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
somms999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot from falconry: https://knowledgestew.com/2015/03/modern-sayings-that-came-from-falconry.html
JesusIsMyZoloft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a spoken term, but the image of a floppy disc is still used as a "save" button.
00DudeAbides ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Football. For the kids game.
thesuddenkind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"CC" as used in emails comes from an abbreviation for a Carbon Copy (a duplicate made with a sheet of carbon transfer paper)
sammisamantha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing for phone calls.
Once upon a time it was using the rotar.
Now we just tap a screen.
DreamWalker01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down window
Chrys_Cross ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Impybutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having a โbugโ in the software, comes from the times of yore when computers were an entire room filled with vacuum tubes.
Literal insects would get inside the tubes and stuff things up.
AdrianBlack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids today will never know the satisfaction of angrily hanging up the phone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll up the window".
anderson916 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I still refer to going back on streaming videos as "rewinding"
alanmagid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Dial' for making a phone call.
ledhendrix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtape.
JudasCrinitus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lord is a contraction of "Loaf Ward," that is, the one that provided the bread. Lady, as well, is from "Loaf Digger," one that kneads the bread.
[Note: These are modernizations, these contractions happened first in Old English, as Hlafweard and Hleafdige]
Kaynadian1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The expression "hang up" when talking about telephones. It's really not very common anymore to hang a phone back on the wall when you're done talking.
Sonicrelapse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a telephone. A dial is in reference to rotary input. We type our telephones now - even when calling
TheMagicSchoolTruss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window. Now that we have buttons, the phrase doesn't really make sense
karichest938 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window, most cars you only have to push a button!
burdizthewurd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think "bury the hatchet" is beginning to see itself out, but I hear it quite often anyways. I feel like people are more inclined to say "settle the issue" or "put it to rest" but all three are quite common with adults.
VIIIMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window.
ronenvelarde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:27:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just bought a brand new work truck with roll up windows.
VIIIMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No shit? I seriously haven't seen a manual window on a vehicle in years. Not including vintage cars of course. I assumed all new models came with electric.
romanianfuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Education
Dubliminal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtapes.
I can't believe that people call spotify or youtube playlists as mixtapes, but they do.
sigfredo_syrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LMAO wow.
YJCH0I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally literally
iamhotdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mac Machine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Got that on film!"
irvin_e1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool
Puurgery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
katstastegoood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows (in a car)
aRebel85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window
Now you just hit a button
highorderdetonation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tape." Noun and verb.
maswell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoddy was cloth manufactured from scraps. They ground it in a mill and then created new cloth. The quality wasnโt as good as the original cloth, thus clothing made from it wouldnโt last as long. We still refer to things not made well or of lower quality as โshoddyโ.
mong0038 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stating engine power in HP and light in candle strength.
bhardin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fruit โroll-upโ. Most people roll down. Also, not made from fruit.
HouseFareye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this has been mentioned here yet, but the phrase going "over the top" came from WWI and was used to describe the act of charing over the parapet of a trench to launch a wave attack against the enemy lines.
Nobody_Super_Famous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure nobody dials phones anymore, but that's what we still call it.
DoubleT9999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down, referring when you had to turn the knob and manually roll it down.
Olealicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
TheSmohr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows
acm2033 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pull out the stops is an organ reference. Musical instrument, not anatomical organ.
defenceman101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Did you get that on tape"
BitOfAWindUp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have come WAY too late to this, but oh well. I was once told on a tour of Salisbury cathedral that the term โtop-dogโ and โunderdogโ originated there. The โdogโ was a tool used to hold the beams of wood slightly open when they were being chopped lengthways to stop the saw sticking. The saws were a two man affair, one on top, one underneath. Being on top was obviously preferable due to the notable lack of sawdust to the face, hence, top-dog. And vice versa. 85% sure itโs bullshit but who knows!
BustedStuff2021 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
furquizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hang up" the phone
landofschaff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ up the windows even though most cars are made with electronic switches now
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a number.
Inbox.
The phone is ringing.
Gweeb22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your window. Even though you dont have to roll it up anymore, its done for you.
AnthonyGuitar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omnibus and box set.
GiraffeOfTheEndWorld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
sgk_809 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about 'keep me posted'? Does that relate to posting a letter?
OrangeHippo376 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your horses.
Dylanhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at your phone. Symbols for email (envelope), voicemail (tape). Even the call button is usually a silhouette of an old landline telephone. There's loads of stuff we still cling on from the past to illustrate current tech.
paulheaney67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Press office - not all PR /communications departments still call themselves a 'press office's but it's not really 'The press' calling then now. most of us don't work for sonewhere that has a press. Now it's online journalists, broadcast journalists, 'content producers' etc
farenheit40 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youtube Rewind!
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a phrase but: "read the goddamn thread" is a pretty underused technique.
bandgeekchic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"rolling" down the window. more like an arm workout.
superloveshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xerox since the company is gone but people still call copying stuff Xeroxing. I'm a prime offender of saying I'm going to "FedEx Kinkos" even tho I don't think there are any combo fed ex kinkos anymore lmao
CliffCutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Hacking' used to involve physically cutting (hacking) into phone or cable wires. I'm sure that this method is still used in some cases, but most of the time people picture hacking as a guy at a computer.
want_togivekarma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I couldnt find anybody who said it so sorry if repeat, but roll down the window.
neihuffda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CTRL+F, "what you want to check"
It's not hard.
Currently there are about 50 people who said the same thing on this page only.
want_togivekarma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hit search on mobile I know that on computer
BCECVE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Black balled, Getting the Third Degree. Mason terms. To get into a Mason lodge applicants are voted on by putting either a black ball or a white ball into a box. Two black balls is not good. Third degree is a level most Mason attain. Requires rituals and memorization.
sambam180 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soapbox
FNFALC2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window, Hang up to the phone...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in dutch we say dickblack (pik zwart) when describing something really dark but this is because pek (tar) used to be pronounced as pik (current day meaning for dick) the whole dick thing just stuck around (hehe) so we still say dickblack instead of tarblack.
Angsty_Potatos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I've got it on tape". Unless you're shooting film, you do not in fact have it on tape
CTSawxfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling the windows up."
Charroshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if itโs not made out of glass, cups are still referred to as glasses
WaluigiWhitman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk if this counts, but the symbol on the phone app on iOS has lost its relevance, due to no phones being shaped remotely similar to that anymore.
Scollison_6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people say "roll down the windows" while they are in a car, this one blew my mind once when someone actually explained to me that people used to have physically roll down the windows in order to open them
noerrorsfound ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in my 20s and what blows my mind is that some people are too young to have been in a car without power windows. Plenty of old cars are still around without them so I'd figure at least everybody knows a friend who drives an old base model Civic or Mustang or something.
Trout_Slinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
Older generations of cars used to have cranks that you manually rolled down the window with. Nowadays most cars have a button you push to move the side windows up/down.
Ryanbrasher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
JonahOnSaturn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll the window up.โ
You donโt actually have to roll windows up anymore.
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Book on tape.
25 years ago they switched to CDs. Now they're mostly digital files. But I caught myself describing Audible as a "book on tape" just a few weeks ago.
HuecoTanks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up
TheKingOfDub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a term, but I'm incorporating a record scratch in a video to indicate the abrupt halting of a scene
fig623 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phone.โ
clemoh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm shocked that no one has brought up 'my phone is ringing'. Phones used to have bells. Now they don't. Actually, they haven't in decades, well before cell phones. We still use the reference to describe when someone is trying to contact us via voice. I guess I'm old enough to recognize this, even most thirty year-olds might not even connect the reference.
andyinnie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the windows up/down
Asarhaddon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Log in/on originates from a piece of heavy wood, attached to a knotted rope, which was being thrown out of the board to determine the speed of a vessel by its captain, which was subsequently entered into the so-called logbook.
Olealicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn on the tv.
gerryf19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone number. My brother in law was showing his daughter an old Rotary phone. And she slapped her forehead and said that's why they call it dialing.
Prd2bMerican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mechanized units in the military are still referred to as Cavalry
Polymemnetic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xerox. Does anybody actually have a Xerox machine these days?
davewashere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xerox is still one of the leading makers of office copy machines.
Polymemnetic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure they are. But I haven't seen one in over a decade, personally.
SpaceAndAlsoTime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about rolling down the windows. There's not many cars with manual windows around anymore
NUMBerONEisFIRST ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I take a video on my phone I refer to it as getting it on tape, or filming it. There's no tape or film in my phone.
MrBoo843 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up and Picking up phones
mooksimpson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment... Like in a car Dual carriageway... Like on a road Horsepower... Was never really about horses
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I video taped it"
SexBadgersaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" when ending a phone call. When our landlines were screwed into the wall, it made sense but now we touch a screen.
battlebrocade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn I love etymology. :)
neihuffda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, man! I have a Norwegian Etymology Dictionary, even! I mostly google "[word] etymology", but sometimes I actually look it up in the book. It's quite pleasing to read the history of a word.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the window"
FoxOneFire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"camera ready". In print advertising, I believe they used to take a picture of the assembled ad in order to get it ready for the publication. If its 'camera ready', no such assemblage is needed. We still refer to ads that come to us ready to go as 'camera ready'.
kontrast0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
AmConfuzzled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bigger question: is it ree'-wind or reh-wind'
zyonkerz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up the phone.
devilhorns13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone".
AtomicHurricaneBob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drop a dime
NoGoodCoffeeQuaffer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone! You had to hang up the handset on the base to hold down the disconnect button to end your call.
Big_Gifford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll just tape it (record)
Roll down the window (in cars)
SinistarGrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After playing Life Is Strange the word โrewindโ has a whole new meaning.
john_boi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
n_a_d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer!
My mind was blown when I watched Hidden Figures and realized that a โcomputerโ used to be a person whose job it was to compute things.
squirrel_and_moose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down your window
ConanTheLeader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Burning the midnight oil.
Not literally done so much these days.
LiquidYear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got it that on tape!
osirhc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of video terms. "Filming" or even "shooting" when it comes to capturing video. Everything has been digital for quite some time yet these terms relate back to when video was still all film. If you wanted to be nitpicky you would say "recording video" nowadays. Referring to a video as a "clip." Even the blade tool in FCP and the cutting tool in Premiere relate back to when film editing was literally cut and spliced together. While it could be argued that those terms are still relevant to digital video editing, since you are technically still cutting (sometimes) digital assets - interestingly, these terms predate the programs themselves.
BigPickleKAM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Download. Chairlifts you ride down is called downloading. Up uploading.
Trent109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll Down the window
GeorgysaurusRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
BranAllBrans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I ask my students if they watch tv when they are at home they look at me crazy, 'who still watches tv?'. I use it to refer to all types of screen entertainment at home but damn.
neihuffda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And technically, you're right - it's still "television", even if the feed signal stems from the Internet, rather than from the air or land cable (which incidentally is via cable). "Tele-" means from a distance - which is true for stuff on the Internet.
Cookiegetta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sit back and rewind
ribbonofsunshine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pretty sure the expression is "sit back and unwind" as in you've been so wound up, stressed, now you can relax.
one_of_targos_thugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Airbrushed - which should now be - skin smoothing filter applied
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you ask your buddy to "roll down the window" in the car. It is a button now.
llewkeller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are lots of obsolete terms that stay in use. They still make "films" even though their digital. I guess it would be awkward to call movies "hard drivers." We still "tape" our TV shows on our DVRs. I try to remember to say, "I DVDed that show...but its 2 extra syllables, so most still prefer "tape." When you call someone, you still "dial" the phone, even though the rotary phone died a couple decades before the cell phone. The key for connecting the call on my flip-phone about 10 years was labeled "dial."
BaubNull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Don't turn that dial..." referring to the dial on a television to change the channel.
koryface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โWiretappโ
njgura87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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neihuffda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, these computers was often times women! So, coding actually used to be regarded as a job for women.
Joba_Fett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your horses.
Theclash160 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save icon is a floppy disk
ribbonofsunshine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found a box of "brand new" floppy disks in the cupboard above my new desk. I plan to preserve it to show children it's not just a weird icon! It was a real thing!
Johndoe9990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To โfilmโ something
Those images arenโt going onto film
jeefcakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window
I426Hemi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless your an enthusiast or drive an older car for other reaons, you probably have electric car windows, I've always wondered how long it will be till kids don't know why we say "Roll up the windows." Since windows don't really roll anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
when's the last time you hung up after a call
ribbonofsunshine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this afternoon. Many workplaces still have those types of phones with receivers ;)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the hanging refers to the ear piece that hangs on the hook.
ribbonofsunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are right, but I still did the motion of putting the "receiver" down. And not just pressing a button on the phone :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
technicians still refer to that as being "on hook" or "off hook" even though the hook disappeared long ago
neihuffda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but you don't hang up the receiver (also, your "receiver" is both the receiver and the transmitter, in one object) in a vertical fashion on a fork=P
yeahok97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" up the window.
starcrud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watergate, or just adding the suffix -gate to something makes it known as a scandal. Watergate was the name of the complex that blew the lid off of illegal activity in the Nixon administration.
neihuffda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worst "acceptible" suffix in the world: "-holic". Jebus..
starcrud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're an alcoholic
neihuffda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but that's the only exception. "Alcoholic" is a noun made into an adjective by adding the "-ic" suffix. The base word is still "alcohol" - so when people say "workaholic", they forget that the word "workahol" does not exist in any reality (well, we don't know that for sure, but certainly not in our reality).
throwaway199456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Rewind' seems fine to me, to 'tape' something is one I still hear
girl_sexer69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Winding up the window of a car I know some people still have to but soon enough.
RhombusGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bombshell
redrumakm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape as in record as in take video.
Wararoller2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows, just about every car has automatic windows, no one literally rolls them down with a hand crank any more
NakayaTheRed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the window down
jojibwa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its a phrase but, "hang up the phone"
lonestar34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up the phone
MellowOlive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"can you tape my show hunny?"
BangPowBoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my house we still say tape something when we mean record .
sammyjay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboards are no longer are boards that protect against dashings.
Velvis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:03:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meaning things "dashing" in front of your vehicle?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up. They're all electric now!
lank3y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not mine !
ZachMatthews ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"File" "Bookmarks" "Windows"
Pretty much all computer terms.
rezzychic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll upโ the window.
euph31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down.
StellWair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Roll down the windows' is a fairly recent example. Seeing as most people don't actually roll down their windows.
ineedaconfidant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the car windows up/down. I just got rid of my 2001 neon and it had manual windows and door locks. It was amazing how many young people had never seen a manual roll down window.
PrimaryColt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
We donโt roll them down anymore, we just press and switch and they go down
LunkToThePast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling windows down
Hedhunta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too be fair, the internal mechanism that moves the window still performs a rolling function... its just not a crank handle.
Meryhathor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No-one seems to be mentioning SPAM originally a brand ofย canned cooked meat made byย Hormel Foods Corporation, first introduced in 1937.
https://youtu.be/anwy2MPT5RE
MrDurden93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telling someone to wind their car window down. Been a long time since I sat in a car with an actual winder.
hotbuttmuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When a musician puts out a new "album"
Blanco-Montana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the window down"
mwts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shoplifting began in ancient Phoenicia where Thieves would literally lift the corner of a shop in order to snatch the sweet, sweet olives within.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still use the term "tape" in place of record, as in the a TV show. For reference I'm in my early 30's.
Original-PureMaggot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
common sense
Retrograde_Lectin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Recording video with cell phone and calling it taping.
Lockjawtheturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom asks for unleaded gas when itโs called regular pretty much everywhere now.
xxKillerKatexx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of people say โroll the window downโ when referring to a car, even though they are largely automated now.
poopy2poop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
funmire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know they are back, but when a band comes out with something new, I still call it an album.
westernburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I got it on film"!
brentk7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my house it is "I got it on tape." Even worse
iea00769 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
TheMarvelPrincess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowsโ.
I have a 1993 Ford F-150 that still has the window you have to crank down. When I got it, my sister was 7 (thereโs a big age gap). The first time she saw me use it, she gasped and said โOhhhhh. THATโS why itโs called โrollingโ the windows down.โ She thought it was weird.
TheGarp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll up\down the window....' in a car.
I bought a 63 comet and took my kids for their first ride in it, and they had no clue how to get the windows down because we have always had power windows in our cars. I told my daughter to grab the window crank and start turning it, and she was amazed and said... "OH.. THAT'S what you guys mean when you say 'roll down a window' ".
LiftedRetina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the windows
rlconkl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the car window
xxmickeymoorexx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A record or an album. They are rare to have physical copies now much less a record that plays music with a needle.
pjjtlc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial. As in to dial the phone. Phones haven't had dials in quite a while.
shylocxs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going to film it!
dinghead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radio buttons on you GUI are named for car radios which had physical buttons which would move the tuner to a preset position and also un-select the button that was pushed previously (which is the GUI part)
TedsAdventures ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
evelynclairable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โClick on thatโ for touch screens and smart phones.
yesterdayscat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a bit late to the party but I often hear things like "pull the chain" used for flushing the toilet here in the UK.
sockfullofshit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't touch that dial!
Shellshocker711 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the window" in vehicles. We can simply roll the window with a push of a button, instead of turning a manual crank.
InfiniteComrade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. You push a button now.
screwedovernight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Here's my two cents" Back when the term was coined, two cents was actually worth something
Now, though, due to inflation, two cents is just about worthless
a_golden_ruler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
clothesline
not only a Pro wrestling move.
dinghead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being "Dialed In" even though everything is digital these days
jakefcollins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
sonicVroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Beyond- a vestige of yonder, which means neither here nor there. Here indicate where the speaker is and there is the listener's location. Nowadays people use there to encompass both yonder and there. The be in beyond probably came from by. By yonder oak tree --> beyond the oak tree. Hmm the meaning changed somewhat
pumbawithabeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "boner" had a different meaning, used to describe a mistake.
MagicTrashPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ. Most new cars, except the bottom of the line and maybe class 4-6 trucks, have power windows.
Also that 3.5โ floppy disk icon to save files.
tableleg7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHanging upโ the phone. You donโt hang a cell phone on the receiver like in the old days.
taloncard815 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. Even modern-day cell phones show the symbol of a phone receiver that can rarely be found outside of the office environment
rikrcar21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
noble_savage90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โFilmingโโas in โfilmโ me doing a backflip with your iPhone.
Xyoloswag420blazeitX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, I never realized where the word "rewind" came from.
I'm old enough to have grown up with VHS too.
caz- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people have mentioned phone related things like "hang up", "dial", etc., but I think the word "phone" itself is in a similar category. Even though a phone is often used for making a call, it's really a multi-functional miniature personal computer. It's only an accident of history that we call it a phone, and that's because it evolved from something that was only used for making calls. The device we call a phone today, could have just as easily evolved from calculators, pagers, cameras, or any of a number of other small electronic devices.
We could very easily be calling these things "calculators", "cameras", or even "gameboys", if things had gone differently.
q-pa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Cut," "Copy" and "Paste"
lympicita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pulling the chain. Most toilets have a button or handle to flush.
juliusmax1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone" was when land line phones were still a thing where you actually had to hang up the phone to its base to end a call
cdharris99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably been said some other time in this thread, but โrolling down the windowsโ as older cars (and some current cars) had a crank to roll down the window. Now itโs just an electric button
VLPaulieB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window", even though non of these cars have cranks anymore
dream_weaver35 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
mondaymisery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down. Car windows were operated by a kind of handle where you had to turn it into a circular motion to lower the windows. They're still seen today in old cars, but most cars these days have buttons that you press down to lower the windows. We still use the term "roll" even though we don't do the rolling motion anymore, though.
buckfasthero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. Because you used to literally hang the speaker up on the wall
scifi_flute ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having "an ax to grind"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Flatscreen" TV.
majoroutage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because they're all flat now?
merecido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Radio buttons on a web page. Remember old radios where you could only physically have one button pressed in at a time? They're clever mechanical devices but not sure if people <40 get the reference.
Chrisfrd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When a phone user โtapesโ something with their phone. Back when people had moving magnetic tape in their cameras
telepickups ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Analog film tape is still used quite often for its warmth and soft grain. people like Quinten Tarantino swear by it
mnorri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cranking through a math problem - cranking out an answer: the Curta calculator was a mechanical calculator that allowed rapid multiplication and division of large numbers. It looks something like an old pepper mill with a crank on the end. Each turn of the handle would multiply the entered number. Turn it five times and the entered number multiplied by five is displayed.
peningtenorsax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone
hperrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The characters we use in a text file to signify a new line (CR+LF in Windows, LF in Unix) were originally meant to instruct a computer terminal's printer to return the printing carriage to the beginning of the line (Carriage Return) and feed the paper by one line (Line Feed).
Jsg999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone...
RichATF85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape that show on tv.
ocmiami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Over the Top" - It is a World War 1 reference, referring to going over the top of the trench.
BeeCDN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but I spend way longer than I should wondering what young people think the floppy disk icon is every time they save something. Similarly, the mime those of us of a certain age use to denote rolling a car window down must look so weird!
Wolfesbane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most words and idioms. Language.
redjdv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down car windows... itโs all automatic now minus a few older cars that are still rolling
finchinnn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
chickachicka yea fakeid fakeid
jimi_bagadonutss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hang up the phone
hurried-curry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know this doesn't count as a term, but the same idea applies to the "save" icon on almost every piece of software looking like a floppy disk. We have long since dumped magnetic tape yet we still keep that icon
COPCO2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US, we call our measurement system the 'standard' system, despite metric being used almost everywhere. It's a holdover from the British Empire, when our system was the standard for all English speaking people.
The guys in r/Formula1 have been losing their shit at me all day over that one.
luckymonkey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Men" Working Above
tallperson117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rule of Thumb", used to be that you couldn't beat your wife with a switch that was wider than your thumb.
meatloaf505 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up windows, you kinda press them up now
Charliemander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"fast forward"
bradyba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Referring to using the DVR as โtaping a showโ My lovely wife
HEAD_FELLA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You no longer โripโ a CD-Rom. You can now import it.
meow_mom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm going to tape the movie off tv" From the days of recording them on a VHS tape. I still say tape sometimes instead of record.
EllieVader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hanging up"
I haven't hung a phone on a hook in foreverrrrr.
kelburns15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up. It's a button now
hperrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Parkways used to be roads surrounded by parks, connecting larger developed areas. In many places the parks have all been developed, but the road is still called a parkway.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. They donโt hang anywhere anymore.
Cheesenipple7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phoneโ you know from when phones had cords and a hanger.
locotrician ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Hang up the phone' referencing when the early home land-lines had phones that were secured to the wall. You would literally 'hang up' the receiver when done with the call - kids will never know why they say 'hang up' when they press the red 'end' button.
TortoiseSlayer8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up the phoneโ even though now you just touch a red button on screen.
TamaleQueenPin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telephone.
spinklebox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
TheMagnificentPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
workthrowaway2016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your windows
RatherNerdy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Tristanthe9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down, most cars now a days have a button.
jackratko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down your window"
relbaneb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. Phones no longer hang.
mystyry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same reason atheists say "goodbye" (which originally meant "God be with ye"). Language retains the meaning of words beyond their original literal meaning.
kdubstep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
B sides.
claytonfromillinois ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly this is just language. Almost every word is like this.
thatpaperclip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind the window up/down
Anbodio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. At least people still use the term with phones that don't need to be actually hung up on their wall mount.
N413 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โGoing on Strikeโ is from a nautical term for when sailors would โstrike their sailsโ meaning theyโd take down the sails and refuse to work.
mooksimpson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have we done 'literally' yet. My favorite.. keeping mind English language constantly makes words far away from their source
mudbubbles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
leonnoel303 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowsโ even though my 1993 Corolla is still got it.
morwig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window, when you really just push a button now
charmainejs77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Dman2244 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never considered the word ''rewinds'' original meaning until now.
youtubecommercial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll down the window
julieamb1962 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Album
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TITS UP!!!
seiyonoryuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what did that originally mean?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When something has gone very wrong.
seiyonoryuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't it still? I guess I mean what was the relevance.
xXpumpXx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remind me to tape that show
TheMooseIsBlue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up or dial a phone. Tape a show.
TheRealAlecFarq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a little late to the party, but โroll down the windowโ
mirarom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up.
karly_fries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the windows down
BubbleGumLizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a fairly recent one: plug in. I don't usually plug in my phone anymore, I put it on a charger (same with my watch). I still refer to it as "plugging my phone in."
forgotowipe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get โer Done
hperrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone's talking about the save icon. I'm just sitting here bookmarking all these websites. Chrome changed their icon to a star, but they still call them bookmarks.
TheGoodBunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the car windows (and the finger motion along with it).
Most cars nowadays have electric windows and there are people driving cars out there who have never sat in a car with manual windows.
seawolfie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
Roll up the window.
omarhajar84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window
Rp588 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hang up on you"
shildot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video taping something. Still said by many people when video taping something on their phone.
Bonshwananon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Deez Nutz
WhatTimeIsCowboyTime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind down your (car) window
edhardStuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut, in movies, we don't cut film anymore, it's digitally edited.
alphabravoab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down a window in a car. We still say it even if most cars just have buttons.
Reefag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find myself telling my young kids they sound like a broken record which they have no clue what I'm referring to.
skyclood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Film'
JoriQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I might sound like a broken record, but I always say that language is always growing.
Streetdoc10171 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crank the car....
searchboxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Bushywood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhh... You sure you didn't just get that from a movie something
abrachoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up a car window.
mollyboise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if I buy it from iTunes, I still say I bought X Artist's "album". Even new albums are called vinyl.
Superpiri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โDialingโ a phone number refers to the actual dial you used to have to rotate when using a phone.
S7evyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph
kappasaurus_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Online
SemperFiGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "dashboard" of your car. Originally, the word dashboard applied to a barrier of wood or leather fixed at the front of a horse-drawn carriage or sleigh to protect the driver from mud or other debris "dashed up" (thrown up) by the horses' hooves.
Soft-pore-corn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window and also that motion you make for the person to roll down the window when you pulk up next to them
rstetrmbn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The obvious opposite to rewind, โFast forwardโ!
chad78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fast Forward doesn't refer to anything mechanical - when you Fast Forward a video or song - you are still moving the media forward more quickly than normal. It's not archaic.
rstetrmbn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:44:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you would Fast Forward a cassette, which is a mechanical action, and given that cassettes are dated, it makes this term also archaic.
Scoudz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
JessRoyall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows.
772410 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
grade book. it's all digital now
Brunsy89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
mauri11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up
Trogdor_a_Burninator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one is my favorite. My daughter came running out to my car waving her hands up and down, I appointed for her to get in the backseat and when she opened the door she said "I wanted you to roll the window down."
Sh1fty3yedD0g ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial the phone... despite the lack of a rotary dial or even physical keys to press on a touch screen..
ButImNot_Bitter_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know iโm late to the game in this, but the first one that came to mind for me was, โback to the drawing board.โ
We use it now whenever we have to start something over from scratch and/or in a new direction.
But it refers to architects and engineers who hand-drafted everything at a tilting board or table, and when they had to change something, they had to physically return to their drawing board to start again.
If we were being accurate about it today, weโd say โback to our laptops and CAD.โ
Sinsid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK
ZeusimusPrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say Iโm rolling down the window
jeff_the_nurse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video-taping.
-DRAKARUS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Box Office. Back in the 1700s theatre admission monies were collected in a box and then the box was stored in the office so as to keep the cash secure.
AmauryStoudemire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
It always felt like the window took forever to go down when I was a kid.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taping.... still say that all the time when I should say record
Cupcake_eater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down.
astrozombie2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Footage in regards to a recording of something. I prefer the term coverage as opposed to footage, but a lot of people still use footage.
Kilick123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up the phone.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sextape, it still denotes a private recording but it hasn't been on "tape" for quite some time.
luluchick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flipping a cassette from side A to side B
ZombieFrog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still tape shows... with my digital DVR.
Thrgd456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dial" a phone number.
deadcomefebruary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently "roll down the window" has been replaced with "scroll down the window."
CitrusCBR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window.
Buckman117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
xKopp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll upโ the window.
Koala-1991 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up.
Brado11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window
fumanchu247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unleaded gasoline
neandersthall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โSpace ageโ is basically 60s era technology
Amyfelldownthestairs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is one I didn't know already! Thanks for sharing!
chryslmaki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. Roll down the window.
krpink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
ccipriano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down your car window.
TooSoonTurtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anything related to "the bell" in school. New schools use an electronic chime rather than ringing an actual bell. My high school didn't even use an electronic bell sound, it was more like the Windows startup tones.
lammberger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your window
ccricers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Window roll the down
sabre_rider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. No you hang up.
muffinthumper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
bguy74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Record", but not quite in the obvious way. A record was once an actual record of a thing that literally happened - people playing music live. It is no longer a record, but it's still a record.
TaGaDvAnCe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the word you are looking for is Skeuomorph.
Galt42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling down/up" a car window is a term from when there was a physical knob you had to turn to move the window up or down.
dirkblasticus2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using Mapquest
dirkblasticus2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And printing out the directions
olivespecter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still tell my boyfriend to โmapquestโ something while handing him my phone and he never fails to mock me for it....
dirkblasticus2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother prints out mapquest directions still, and owns an iphone.
olivespecter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plot twist: I am your grandmother
bguy74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An ideal password isn't words at all.
WHISKEY_DELTA_6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doorbell.
notunique_notever10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the window" I haven't seen a car without power windows in forever!
goterr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window
Teevusman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn the channel. Turn it up. Turn it on. Turn it off.
restless_and_bored ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
" roll down your window "
Bonus points if you make the motion with you hand.
BackStabbathOG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use the word rewind every time I play Tracer:)
Wicck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Get this on tape."
"Cut me open." Most surgeries no longer require a large incision.
workit88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
rimmy789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHanging upโ the phone despite the fact that most phones no longer hang on a hook on a wall
istarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still sorta works for wall mounted wireless handsets.
rimmy789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats true! Forgot about those
istarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Admittedly they are less common than they used to be.
kanejarrett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Writing an email or a post, the correct term would be typing now but writing is still commonplace.
porcineChemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up windows in cars. We don't use the little crank to literally roll up windows anymore.
venlaren ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i absolutely still have hand crank windows in my truck. Those window motors are typically shit that break and have to be replaced.
porcineChemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:07 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't tell you how many times the window motors in my jeep broke before I got a new car. It makes such an awful sound too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Change the TV channel" / "tune in to the show". (referring to the time when you'd literally capture TV signal with an antenna on the top of your house, and manually dial in the signal to whatever station you wanted).
Lindisfarne793 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flash in the pan. Go off half cocked. Both holdovers from the days of flintlocks.
HDhitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll your window down"
A lot of kids these days have never experienced physically turning a handle to literally roll down their window
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word landlord. Still is used in the same context, but when you think of it's feudal origin, it begins to sound much fancier. LORD OF THE LAND.
Podcaster-Dom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For editors and producers in radio/podcasting, itโs โgetting tapeโ and then โcutting tapeโ.
daingandcrumpets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. Back when phones used to sit in a cradle after use.
ColeRyski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To 'hang up' the phone. You dont hang your cell phone on the wall like you would a land line or pay phone.
JakDanieIs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window. Now we just press a button.
loopynoodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows!
stark0788 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โDonโt film me!โ yelling at a person holding a cell phone ...
AMultitudeofPandas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The clock is ticking." Digital doesn't tick, and a lot of modern clocks don't make the sound anymore
ZurekMorraff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the same line, yelling "on your 6" or "look towards 9 o'clock" are still used, though sparingly, but give it another 5-10 years and outside of the military and movies, i dont think many will understand what you're referring too.
bsrichard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a phone number.
weremound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most film terms, such as film, refer to old film techniques. Yelling โcutโ and โrollingโ refer to literally cutting the film and rolling the camera.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
forcefx2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape me! When using the camera on your cell
ManOfLaBook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a broken record
867530niyain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
that_motorcycle_guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going "balls out' is an old term that was used around steam engines. It meant full power, the governator was made of 2 spinning balls centrifugally operator that would bleed the extra steam when reaching the limit - so it wouldn't explode.
KyleRobinson15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oppressed, people just say it when they feel that someone doesn't agree with them
Covaliant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling down" a car window.
im_mrs_meeseeks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if I saw this or not, but rolling down the window I believe. From when people had to manually roll down windows with the crank.
useyourfacts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Though, I skipped power windows in my Jeep so it still applies in my ride...
Tsquare43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. We really don't hang up phones much any more.
draculinaaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โPick/hang up the phoneโ
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down your window. Even better a friend of mine motioned the rolling of the crank arm to me the other day. It immediately got me that that's not really a thing anymore.
necromike37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Representative Democracy.
Imblindbilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone probably has millenials questioning what life is
hunteqthemighty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iโm a filmmaker and photographer. I constantly say โfootage,โ โfilm,โ etc.. All these terms I use are kind of meaningless as itโs all digital now.
pebrain21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever people are taking videos, they say โIโve got it on tape.โ
cozmic_debris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling down a windowโ
Hugh_Jass_Guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up/ down the windows in a car
hm___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Orientation comes frome a time when maps where directed to Jerusalem instead of north, so the top side of the map was the Orient (on worldmaps jerusalem was in the center)
Killybug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
News
TheFamousSamWise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โKnotsโ as a measurement of speed. Originally mariners would throw a rope with knots at regular intervals in water to see how many were pulled off behind the ship per a fixed amount of time to determine nautical speed.
Braidington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be Kind.
earthboy17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up" the windows
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saying something/someone sounds like a broken record.
Secksiignurd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone"... when phones receivers were nested within their cradles/bases.
Saoirse_Laochra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down/up.
mudrunnerswife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down your window....
literallymagic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a phone, taping a show.
missinglink00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. Like hang up the phone on someone. We used to literally hang the phone up to end a call. Now we just press "end call".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mouse. The mouse was named after the mouse tail that stuck out of it. Now there are wireless ones. It's cool.
Thelemonsfam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somebody probably said it but roll down the window.
mclements63 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Answering machine. Those things used tapes and you had to actually erase the tape not delete the voice mail.
natalerssss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window. We donโt do that anymore. Theyโre all automatic for the most part.
DigestibleAntarctic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A clichรฉ or a stereotype was originally a printing plate containing a ready-made, frequently used phrase or image.
noluckgee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I press Rewind by Akon is a good song
NiCo_running ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up the phone
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bless you"
srettelnet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ when car windows used to be manual. Iโm sure there are plenty around still.
CocaTrooper42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clockwise
Roll down the window
nutnutinthebuttbutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the car window.
timberwolf0122 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:47:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drive a jeep, I still roll my windows
LittleRedditAddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up.
VanCanFan75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save icon in most programs (especially MS Office) is still a floppy. I bet most people using these programs dont get the icon association and just "save by clicking on the weird black and purple rectangle icon"
istarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They probably do get the association, except the association is that symbol means 'save' rather than recognizing it as a floppy disk and the thing you save to.
Lumbers_33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a grime rave, otherwise known as a wheel-up.
rararoryy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
ryl33b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The โsaveโ icon that represents a disc and method that no one under the age of 25 understands.
Claire0000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:12:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being 23 I still remember this.
istarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's disk to you, discs are things like CDs and DVDs (maybe vinyl records to).
ryl33b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:32 on December 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
**too
istarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:35 on December 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. :P
dinos4lyfe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
Remember frantically spinning my arm as it syarted to rain...
bluebull52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the windows
VanCanFan75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cheers!
The first ppl to cheers glasses together were knights protecting the king from poisoned drinks. By hitting glasses together, it ensured a little bit of everyone's liquid would transfer/mix to each others glasses and then they'd yell "cheers to the king" or something like that and all drink at the same time before the king.
We still cheers and hit glasses together, but i doubt we're doing it to test if our ale has been poisoned in an assasination attempt.
Mgmegadog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That seems stupid though. Why would the entire knighthood all drink potentially poisoned drinks instead of just having a dedicated tester?
VanCanFan75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. official poison tester? Ooo that would be a toxic work environment. Like, if there was poison and the kings knights drank, then they'd all die. Why do it? Loyalty, i imagine.
Mgmegadog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then the king's defenseless, cause all his knights are dead. This seriously requires a citation.
VanCanFan75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree that it's hard to figure out a reason they would do this, based on the logic and what I've said. Here's an article that has a few points around the whole "cheers" and giving a "toast". From this source at least, there is no original source regarding my put forth "Cheers" claim. but it is one of a few considered theories. The point this article makes that I neglected to include is that EVERYONE in a room would drink (minus the king) so then there's a higher likelihood your attempt at spiking some drink would end in a suicide mission. Kamikaze shots anyone?
What else I found interesting is the article also speaks to why we call it a "toast", which is totally fitting for this thread. Apparently people used to literally put toast in their drinks before drinking it to soak up some of the high level of acidity that could be commonly present in wine of that time period.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/04/this-is-why-we-toast-each-other-and-clink-our-glasses-before-drinking-5858998/
cue rainbow...cue shooting star
the more you know
EDIT: forgot to originally include the link to the article lol
Mgmegadog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:25 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably best to not post things that aren't supported by evidence. Lead with the toast one in future, it's both a more reasonable possibility and actually a cooler fact.
VanCanFan75 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:36:14 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably best to make sure you show evidence behind the toast being a cooler fact than the cheers thing, not just what your subjective opinion is. Ya know, don't want to come across as suggesting things just for the sake of conversation.
Jloquitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone"
blenneman05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down, back when car windows had handles that you had to roll in a circle to make the window go down or up. Nowadays we just have buttons ๐
Nefarious__Nebula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but the meaning behind the action of pointing at or tapping your wrist to ask what time it is will probably be lost soon.
kristrauma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window of the car.
Majesticmaps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Or making the universal roll the window down circle with you hand
jrhooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"carbon copy" "turn the channel"
Mr_Slops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling" your window up and down. Now you don't really roll it, you press a button.
Hirudin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Pop a cap in yo ass"
Actually from a time when guns still had percussion caps.
troubleshootsback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
HermioneGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm already explaining to kids why we say "hang up" the phone.
Redd-It-Dude2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"...
imonlyanoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
adventfilms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
bigizz20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video tape. Everything's digital.. no tape
Mgmegadog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't everyone just call it video now anyway though?
bigizz20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I'm old school. I still say I'll video tape.
DetroitHustlesHarder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you โfilmโ something. 99% of the time youโre wrong.
FourArm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"parenting"
Maldiem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
RockerElvis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows. My kids have never been in a car without power windows.
dukerustfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isnโt too old but the hard drive is only hard in relation to old floppy or tape or ribbon or card drives and readers. We called them simply drives for a while
savontt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone
Corb1n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "roll" your car window down gesture. Not many hand crank car windows around anymore.
awfully_homesick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
Ihav974rp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally
Invalid_Redditor_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
drunkenwhitehorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Turn it down" like when we had knobs on shit. Also "knob"
darealarms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anachronism
Kevroeques ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โCut to the chase.โ
Mgmegadog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took until now for me to get this one.
Kevroeques ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I donโt think itโs really used much anymore. Iโll always love it because of the time Jerry chided George for using it in Seinfeld.
thereaIbong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DLC or downloadable content. Now it's just shit thats already on the disk that you pay to unlock.
maxnunels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. Nobody uses landlines anymore
WorldOfWells ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Marriage.
No explanation needed.
SilentIntrusion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll (or wind) down the window"
gerLdsmash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window
khahn10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window - back when you literally had to roll down the window with a crank.
And, the clicker (remote) -because they used to click real loud (or so my father says...)
shannonislovely ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say โvideotapeโ when I mean recording video.
HandsomedanNZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โTapeโ or โTapingโ a show on TV...set the DVR
It meant something to those of us who lived through VCR.
fopdoodle-coolio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
L i t e r a l l y
Songslinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
DubskeeInDaSouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up
powderhound109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The concept of hanging up the phone.
two_constellations ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window.
Orion12g ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
stylus2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll camera!
Thopterthallid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find it interesting that many MMO players say they're going to "roll" a new character. Very few MMOs have characters with randomized starting stats anymore.
phillyspliff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โhang up the phoneโ = press the end button
k3dabra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theres more than one way to skin a cat...
soulsoar11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dashboards used to be the bar on the front of the carriage that blocked mud (kicked up by horses) from hitting the driver. The mud would dash on the board. Now it's just the place in your car where your radio is, or an app organization feature on your computer.
NoonThirtyFour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll down the window.
Kougeru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's plenty of cars without powered windows, Mr 1%
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two in the pink, one in the stink.
missrowsdower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Itโs not a phrase, but the little โsaveโ button on Microsoft Word, etc. is a floppy disk! Or like the little hard disk after floppy disks. Itโs so irrelevant now
KingKocheeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window is becoming much less relevant these days.
hipsterraccoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
toshatnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window. Or hang up the phone.
Klaumbaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
when was the last time a Steamroller was powered by steam?
pinkdildos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the windows" when most of us have power windows in our cars.
Rapaciousowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
YoMommaSez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dad used to say "hold the wire" to a caller when handing over the phone to someone else. Also, many folks called their refrigerator a Frigidaire even if they owned a different brand because it was one of the first refrigerator brands.
FallenMoon9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows.
liquidslam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Videotape. Whenever somebody wants to take a video they use words like "film" or "tape" despite the lack of both of those things in the equation.
illimitable1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Snap shot." As in "this is a snapshot of our performance in 2012" or "this backup system takes a snapshot of what the data were like at every hour."
Axeman517 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You sound like a broken record"
ZilGuber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xerox being used for copies...hey did you xerox that?
22bor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a broken record
UN10N ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
weezin_ed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
sweepminja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Game.... you have lost!
cadam43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows. Youโd say this in a car because you had to actually rotate (roll) the handle thingy to move the windows up and down. Do they still make cars with these?
rarrimali0n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes they do
ReleaseTheKraken72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Video"....hardly anything is on video today. Most of it is digital. Yet we still often use the term video, whether we're talking about Netflix, movies at the theatre, a dvd film...
Y6Y1Y9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:49:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean "film" or "tape". "Video" is simply the act of recording visual imagery. Whether it's on film, tape or digital.
blindwuzi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone know where the phrase "smack dab" came from? I've said smack dab in the middle before but haven't really thought what the hell smack dab means until recently.
MashedPotatoesDick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down.
rarrimali0n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly what you're looking for but Trunk of a car was pretty much an actual trunk
Multigrain_Looneybin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/Cassetteculture
ABADHD83WHEE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Use the term "call long distance" or "make a collect call"
swingman792002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DVR used to be thing to watch cartoons and other programs, commercial free. Netflix has made DVR, and cable in general, futile.
pacificsteel22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
lookmaiamonreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I caught myself telling my 3 1/2 year old son to roll his car window up. Practically no car, except certain base models (maybe?) still have the crank windows like every damn car in the universe used to have in the olden days prior to now. I suddenly realized he has no frame of reference to rolling up a window. He's not rolling up anything. He pushes a button and the window goes up. End of story. So now I simply tell him to put his window up.
pitb0ss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"pot calling the kettle black" a phrase used whenever someone is being hypocritical, it makes almost no sense now that just about all kitchen wares are made from stainless steel, which is silver in appearance
warminthestarlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throwing rotten tomatoes.
The phrase is more ubiquitous now than in recent years for obvious reasons but the initial rotten tomato throwing was so long ago and has been preserved for such a long time without being relevant.
SpellDostoyevsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dial a phone number.
PhasedInnout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling downโ your windows, even though all youโre actionably doing is pushing a button. Kids will never know the inconvenience of driving and attempting to roll down a back window at the same time.
Fierceliger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jared has aids.
Scaerii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" because people would literally hang up their landline telephones.
MYsinger79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape it as in dvr it
yourbrotherrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window" signal given to another driver...
wackk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows
derpy9678 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the window down (no hand crank for the window anymore unless your car is severely outdated)
shorst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
LoneWanderer424 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome or literally
hotpants61 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โAll out balls outโ is a term referring to the safety mechanism on a steam engine.
DoubleCake67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up/down
RobinWolfe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
tallglassofmelonade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video Tape: Alright Jim, the Rockets had a triple double tonight, let play back the video tape.
champyonfiyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In email, CC: stands for carbon copy, an old way of copying a document.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll the windows upโ is starting to lose it.
Ozgilead1999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Self-respect.
Ohhhh :(
bostongeek2014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"on film" or "footage" when referring to a video recording.
MrSonic2001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Back when you had to crank it down.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dial it down."
Nobody dials anything anymore.
itsabout_that_time ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't "film" things with our phone's camera, but some still say it.
Ky1girl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother n law still says donโt forget to record our show. Even though itโs on a DVR
largish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
May be a repeat, but I can't find it: dialing the phone. We haven't come up with a replacement word that I know of.
Unlearnypoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the window" i'm willing to bet 95% of cars sold have electric windows so rolling the window up doesn't really apply now
cptnslw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ in any relatively new car
DJSkorge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this is on here already but Jaywalking used to be a derogatory term for people who were seen walking on the streets and didn't own a vehicle themselves.
Phase821 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. You don't actually hang up a phone anymore.
spiral_divergence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still applies in aviation today, but I think it's interesting. 'Pushing the envelope' refers to flying a plane to (or past) the edges of prescribed flight envelopes such as safe operating speed or weight loading. When operated past its determined parameters the plane becomes less controllable.
happyfrolick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the gas pedal in an electric car
itsabout_that_time ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We usually don't hold a "shotgun" when we ride in the passenger seat anymore.
woodchipchipper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fast forward
underworldconnection ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn the volume up, I can't hear it... pushes button on remote
jared2095 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the windows"
bug1348 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
GlitchStudios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:19 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Literally"
That word has lost all meaning
ihaveamonkeyonmyhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone number
Captains_Press ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up/down the window" is a very recent transition into obscurity.
TheRealPascha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Car windows are all automatic now, nobody needs to physically crank the window anymore.
okrelax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window. Gone are the car window cranks.
Arazaha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the window down. At least I still say that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
ScelesticFish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up windows
The_Pwnager ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jinx!
jbirdbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
hyugafan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word โprivacyโ.
The_Pwnager ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/jokes because everything is a repost
Elisheva_Glovzov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still say "rolling" during sound recording (and "tape")even though we are using digital audio.
dalekaup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone and dialing the phone.
Beepbopbopbeepbop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing in for remote access. No one dials anything anymore.
switchfootball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hang up" the phone. They used to be on walls where people would hang them up when they were done with them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone should buy a child a DVD rewinder for Christmas.
brotogeris1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The remote control is โthe clicker.โ I canโt remember the last time I heard a remote control make a clicking sound.
Mlg123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a term, but a noise. The noise of a record scratching when something sudden happens in a movie/TV/commercial.
This sounds: https://youtu.be/676A6VymGCk
appalled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"video games"
MetallicAchu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ, most people born after 2000 will have no idea why you need to roll anything, when you can just press a button
redggit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Google" has replaced the word "search".
LoneRangerLong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In some Asian languages, 'googling' sounds very near to the native word for 'whiling away the time", which ain't entirely wrong.
What are you doing?
Googling.
Why don't ya do some work?
EasternShade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first 'computer bug' was a literal moth in a tape wheel, but now refers to general computer glitches.
summervijx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone" most everyone uses cell phones or some kind of pushbutton keypad to disconnect.
Kandyman_12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down your windows
jewoods ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told that "bugs" in a computer system were called that because they were literally bugs that short-circuited the electrical components by walking on them... We use that all the time in other things and I'm pretty sure they're not bugs in there
ereldar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial the phone. Roll down the window. Reset the game. Watching the tube. Tune the radio. Connect to the internet. Meet online (used to mean meeting someone in a chatroom, now it means through a dating site).
Just to name the ones off he top of my head.
Gig472 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A "bug" in a computer program originally refered to actual bugs getting stuck inside the interworkings of the first computers ever built.
xandergod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down your car window.
Ithen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I gotta go tap mac" this term was used indicate to someone that they were going to withdraw money from the ATM when they were called MAC machines. I still hear the reference today
cubenz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial in, even though we use RDP over a VPN.
Down-Votes-Cats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
nicolascusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up." Phones have no need to be hung up anymore, seeing as they are in our pockets.
xxForeverDeadlyxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind your window down.
tsfd7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
grumpythunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broken record.
lianagolucky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window
lulueight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still sometimes say โtyping paperโ when referring to printer/copy paper.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Filming" when you are shooting with a digital camera
alanahbananah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
pomegranate2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Data 'streaming'.
It used to be the quickest way to send messages was to put them in a bottle and float them down an actual stream.
midwestgal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The new ALBUM is out by xxxx
Alpha_29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When someone says to film something it's not going on film anymore, since everything is digital.
Llamaman117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down.
FeralChapstick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horsepower
LoneRangerLong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A pretty specific unit actually.
doorpaint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:23 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up a window.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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BlackholeZ32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A LOT of djs still spin actual records. Not just timecoded disks controlling computer software.
tickleshizznits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make a Xerox.
ManInKilt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mixtapes
hepahepahepa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Worth your salt" referring to the field pay of Roman soldiers
bobbymac3952 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upper-case and lower-case literally refer to which case of typewriter keys you are using.
FreddyFoFingers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gypped is pretty antiquated
bockfu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cell phone
ajarndaniel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunrise and sunset are the two biggies for me. Unless the flat earth crew turn out to be right, I guess.
What should we call them? Facing, and Facingaway?
ea_sky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ down your car window. Most newer cars have electric windows and so the passenger is not physically rolling the handle to lower their window.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of tangential but quite a lot of people use rhyming slang unknowingly.
Things like 'blowing raspberries' to refer to making fart noises with your mouth, usually in reference to baby noises. Not knowing that 'raspberry' is short for 'raspberry tart' which is rhyming slang for fart.
Or calling someone a 'dropkick', which is short for 'dropkick and punt' - two styles of kicking a rugby ball. That's rhyming slang for something else.
jsh1ne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bookmarking" a page on your internet browser
DassReplending ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This thread is blowing my fucking mind
bitterhipster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:41 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still catch myself telling my wife that I โtapedโ her show for her. That phrase is engrained in my psyche.
Demersus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll your windows upโ
Not many cars still have the โrollingโ mechanism, everything is done automatically now
robral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Album or record. Even if I download it from iTunes, I call it a record or album.
neuroticreasons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To "tape" something rather than "record" something.
jylny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I haven't even heard "Tape" used as a verb in quite some time. Term kinda died with VHS.
fatbastick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows
ThEgPl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"study"
2Tall2Fail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling down" a car window. Even better is the associated hand signal!
IamA-GoldenGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
TurniptheLed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reverse
Return
Decibel
karanmohta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It hasnโt fully lost its core relevance, but will in the near future and will still be used (at least by me) - โroll down the windowโ
PM_ME_MAMMARY_GLANDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone.
daddyfatsac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
cringelien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll up the window?
beauseff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down
SnowflakeTearsFuelMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:46 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I apologize for..."
cwj1978 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pay per view?
csjpsoft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll cc you on my email, if I can find some carbon paper to make a carbon copy.
kingfoodog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
youllbmarced ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
SPACEMANSKRILLA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Cranky" Term comes from those uncooperative, old cars that you'd have crank up before using.
OldCaspian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Knock on wood" or to "touch wood" goes back to Germanic pagan beliefs of spirits, gods or supernatural beings living in trees. Its actual purpose is unclear, but scholars think that either you knocked on the tree to frighten off the spirit and thus escape having your good luck cursed, or you knocked in order to ask for the spirit's blessing.
Personally, I think it's incredible that a term/concept has survived with us relatively unchanged for at least a thousand years.
Also, the plot device known as deus ex machina. Literally, god from the machine. The plot lines of ancient Greek plays often became so convoluted that the only way to resolve everyone's issues was to have a god appear at the very end and untangle everything for them. The actors playing the god often appeared through a trap door on the stage, rising from below, or was lowered from above by a crane. Thus, god from the machine.
LeTheGenD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give someone the cold shoulder.
Back in the day when there was an unwelcomed guest, the host would serve a cold shoulder of mutton to express his upset.
TeslaModelS3XY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep the tape rolling, when filming something digitally.
X3STTU8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. Cars donโt have crank windows anymore/
Miosokie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling" the windows in vehicles down. We used to have to crank them down! Now most vehicles just have a button
Chamapa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window" still gets used everywhere I've been to, despite there being anything to 'roll down' anymore.
ShiaMcBuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
very few people "tape" things anymore
supafly208 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the window up/down.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To turn up the TV, before remote controls you had to turn a knob on the TV set to change the volume settings
WhiteManChrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window in a car. Now you just push a button
deirdredear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll up your window"
okags ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy
Drmcpiggy88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up a window no longer applies due to having automatic windows, not the old school rolly Polly ones
burlybirdgetstheworm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
soap box
Sodadog1900 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'That's like the pot calling the kettle black', is a phrase/term for when you call someone out for something that you also do/are. Back in the olden days both pots and kettles were black, hence this term.
spartan1780 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up your window" doesn't really apply anymore but everyone still says it.
RockmanNeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
BirdsBrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To tape or film something.
Benpie1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up a window.... Back before the 20's cars/carriages used to have fabric for windows
comkiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wait, it isn't about hand cranks?
Benpie1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No think of an old carriage in cowboy movies, above the window youll see cloth "rolled up" and to close the window you would roll it down.
MacKay2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A proper name but kids today likely donโt realize that the name ยซย YouTubeย ยป is referring to tube TVs which are pretty much obsolete these days. Or even just calling the TVย ยซย the tubeย ยป.
hilarymeggin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
English still has three leftover words from German that add -en (instead of -s) to denote plural. Can you guess all three?
Squaghetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oxen, brethren, and ??? Canโt think of a last one. Howโd I do?
hilarymeggin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:45:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2 out of 3 ainโt bad! Children is the third one. Iโm impressed you got brethren. Thatโs the one people canโt usually figure out.
JohnnyMnemo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โDropping the dimeโ on someone refers to the cost and usage of a pay phone.
You wouldnโt want to make an anonymous tip from a land line, you see.
JTfreeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we neither hang up nor dial phones anymore
Throwawayzzz753 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anytime tape is used to record something
alexandrafox89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mind your own beeswax is a SUPER old one
thetotalhermit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still say I "taped" something when I actually recorded it on my DVR.
areyouafraidofthedor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't "Crank the engine" be one of them? As initially cars were started with a hand crank and not the electric starters we use today?
Thecoolbonnie79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2 that I know of...I live in New England and we have a lot of 'cod' here in our waters, a teacher once told us, they were named that because when the settlers came here, they kept catching this one type of fish, they had never seen. They named it cod as in 'Catch of the Day' and the second one is when someone is ripped off, they say you got 'jipped' which is a reference to 'gypsies' as they were stereotypically known as thieves. Kinda racist, but thats where it came from.
hydrus8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Book on tape
ToadLake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saddle up
AlbiTheDargon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
film something
The_Tydar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Common Sense" It isn't a thing anymore
jerryvo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crank down the window. Crank down the volume
RenegadeX28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why so many people I know that played video games over the years would refer to levels in a game as "boards". I remember some of my friends referring to the first level of Super Mario Bros as the first board.
Pixie0422 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window.
condiments95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
dogdogdogsquirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
000xxx000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Film, as in a movie
Amraspalantir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
German. The whole thing is full of comical words like your "sick wagon" (instead of a specific word like ambulance) takes you to a "sick house" and your taken care of by a "sick sister".
PM__Me__UR__Dimples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cell phones. We haven't used cellular technology for phones in years.
logicblocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got it on tape!
head_case_87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
lagueraloca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up" the phone. We don't hang phone on walls anymore, and almost no one has a land line.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
String beans are called string beans because there used to be a string of fiber that ran through the bean, but it was bred out in the late 19th century.
palmfranz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment.
It used to hold your gloves, which were necessary for driving, because there was no power steering.
jdathescore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:40 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
ma-chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a record composer and producer. When recording in the studio, I have started saying, "OK, roll it! Or___ whatever".
duckshoe2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โHang up.โ In the early days of telephones they consisted of a cradle and a handset, connected by a cord; ending the call required placing the handset in the cradle, i.e, hanging it there, thus hanging up. They havenโt made phones that way for thirty years but people still say โhe hung upon meโ!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pick up the phone. It still works but it doesn't mean the same
flarezilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Don't touch that dial"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video or tape or video tape
atomic_explosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Write it down". I think most people "type it up" these days
SimonEvergreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. The first telephones had the speaker that needed to be hung on the hook after you were done. When land line phones were on the wall you had to "hang them up". Now you just press a button.
ShafieeK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bugs! Computer bugs I mean. And debugging.
Pretty sure this knowledge is pretty common, but I'll just put an article here
On September 9, 1945, a Harvard technical team looked at Panel F and found something unusual between points in Relay 70. It was a moth, which they promptly removed and taped in the log book. Grace Hopper added the caption "First actual case of bug being found," and that's the first time anyone used the word bug to describe a computer glitch. Naturally, the term debugging followed.
MinuteMan104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way the phrase โfirst ACTUAL bugโ is used tells me the term โbugโ had been in use before that point.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hangup. When someone ends the phone call. Used to be, you hung the phone on a hook to end the call.
I remember telling a customer I'd release the line of her continued to curse at me. He made fun of me for using s euphemism for hanging up. No, I wasn't going to hang up anything. I was going to click a button on my screen that would release the line.
drcash360-2ndaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Stoldt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment.
krisphoto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone
Hear7breaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up the car window" even though we no longer have to physically crank the window to close it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bless you" when sneezing
meagan8x7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say this all the time, but "tape" instead of film/record. I grew up with a camcorder that you actually had to put the VHS into. Still works too.
archiewaldron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rethink
ninjapantser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling down the window"
edwardianed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Digital is generally (inaccurately) used to mean computer-based, originally it meant something relating to one's fingers and toes (digits); as they were frequently used to aid counting, digit came to mean number, and as all computing is based on binary-numbers, digital now means something relating to computing.
oneamungus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bless you.
the_impossimpable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but I've always been fascinated by the fact that the floppy disk is still the "Save" icon despite essentially being defunct.
charliesangel77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.... We don't hang them up anymore... We just push a button.
PinkCynicism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telephones, mobile phones are more of an advanced personal radio but they serve the same purpose of its landlocked counterpart so we call it as such.
PinochetIsMyHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:15 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Madame President".
SpawnOfSay10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You very rarely have to actually "roll down the window" anymore..
Gnostromo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trust
gablerr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down a car window. We no longer have to strongarm some rickety lever to get some air.
-bucephalus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd throw 'jealous' into the mix. I was taught that to be jealous was to protective of something you own, where to be envious was to covet something someone else owned. Nowadays people seem to use jealous for both and 'envious' has fallen by the wayside. When was the last time you used it?
Degru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I for one will use the correct terms from now on thanks
Kratsas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say Iโm going to tape a show when Iโm recording something on my DVR.
I still sometimes call a hashtag a pound symbol.
banannixx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:03 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Shut up, Rewind." -Blaster.
HQJMVF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Files and folders when referencing digital storage abstractions.
Scarbee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:25 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window. Little late...
mulderforever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window!
Odissus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ESC, the escape button.
GloryJammer4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down
itsjeffreybaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:14 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll your window up"
koukla1994 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Winding down the window." Most cars have electric windows now (mine doesn't tho lol)
OsuPhenom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
HansoloBaron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows.
MHossa81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:12 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically you rewind dvr
KazzleDazzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone.
WarehouseToYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:28 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using your indicators when changing lanes
roboguy88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Wind down the window" (in a car).
Paiger__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll upโ the window!!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A trunk used to be a trunk strapped to your car. Not sure where the British word boot comes from.
funkmastermgee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Manufacture was a noun from the 16th century meaning "something made by hand"
seantubridy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling upโ car windows. When did manual handles for car windows completely disappear- early 90s maybe?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ in a car. Many cars have power windows now.
mcrackin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Balls to the Wall.
I give it a meaning of getting stuff done fast. Apparently the phrase came from a pilots throttle, shaped like a ball, and to increase the speed of the plane you would push it to the firewall as far as it would go. Balls to the Wall.
Mocachino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll up your windows" Cars mostly have electronic windows now, but most who had them before continue the phrase.
somewhat_random ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Teamsters" is a union. It used to be just the truckers union. Before that it was the guys that drive a team of horses pulling a wagon.
Inovindil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging started by removing an actual bug from an early computer
gereedf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blueprint. Back when technical drawings were white on blue colored paper. Literally blue blueprints.
porkytool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
raspberiii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window
Wvreb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:22 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A gaming term that is kinda meaningless is "Rogue-like" because none of those games tend to have more than a fleeting similarity to Rogue. It's like calling CoD an MMORPG because it's multiplayer, massive, and has progression.
DrTenochtitlan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the United States at least, maybe the popularity of the expression "In for a penny, in for a pound"?
TheAmazingAvocado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up, manually with a crank like system
clamchoda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dad still calls Walmart, Woolco... If that counts lol
DANIELG360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same way that we still use a floppy disk as the save symbol. I think floppy disks had just gone out of usage when I was young so I remember them. Must be a funny symbol for kids of today though.
FiftyFootMidget ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They prolly just think its a hard drive
FireTrickle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:45 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Record a video on your phone
thefrostedlightbulb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down windows
HardlightCereal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:56 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever aussies and canadians talk about pennies.
snoutpower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People recording a video and you hear them say "I got that on tape!"
dabenu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a term, but an icon: the save button is always shaped like a floppy disk. I bet most people jounger than ~20 have never seen a real floppy disk, yet they click the icon every day.
anewhopeforchange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:26 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Research. sometimes it means to just to search in the first place
jefuchs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:13 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a late arrival, but looks like nobody said paper trail. Seldom involves paper anymore.
BigOhmTitties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:39 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
Scatropolis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:59 on December 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a word, but the fact that we still use a floppy disc for the "save" icon is pretty outdated. I had to explain it to a student recently and it took way too long.
AndyChamberlain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:07 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Driving a car vs riding a horse: riding a horse is a more active task than driving a car so why is it the one that sounds passive? We say drive a car because cars used to be carriages pulled by horses. The horses wouldnt move on their own so they had to be driven by the driver (the person who whips the horses). So when horseless carriages (cars) came around, they were still "driven"
This one might not make as much sense since we are so used to the word drive meaning driving a car, but the original meaning was to motivate, and that turned into piloting a car because of what I explained above.
mooksimpson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:07 on December 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about the term "literally" it is often used without any reference to it's initial meaning. i.e. it can be used to mean figuratively rather than from the literature.... it's exact opposite.
Laferrari355 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:42 on December 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hue
a_man_hs_no_username ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Psych0matt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To get a video recording of something "on tape"
etihw_retsim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While true a lot of the time, a lot of cameras actually record HD to digital tape.
Psych0matt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true, but I'm speaking more along the lines of daily recording of funny cats and whatnot in a cell phone haha
Toad32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fast forward is still relevant, ergo rewind or go back are still relevant in electronic media.
Gamzee- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:43 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To "roll down" a window. Newer cars don't have an actual crank anymore. They're all automatic.
cornbilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're not all automatic now. That is still an option that everyone pays extra for. Yes, the majority are electric, but not all.
I-skin-campers ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:10:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Conservative
ewrewr1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:58:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And Liberal, too, although that term has stayed closer to its original meaning.
BrooksConrad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "spam", as in spam emails or texts, got its name from that old Monty Python skit with musical Vikings at a restaurant. I doubt anyone eats spam anymore, but here's a word we use almost daily.
simple1689 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People eat spam you rich bastard. :)
BrooksConrad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you need to include the second half of that sentence? Also, why did you add a smiley face to it? The first bit seems needlessly rude, and the second seems insincere. Was that the point?
simple1689 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In other words, why did I comment at all?
boffohijinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still use rewind on my DVR.
Ben_Doon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tune in" and "Stay tuned," from the days when you had to manually tweak a dial to find the right frequency for a broadcast. people even use it on podcasts.
JLink100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sun is going to set. The sun is rising.
Emmm scientifically incorrect.
Iz-kan-reddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's totally correct, depending on your frame of reference.
JLink100 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was refering anyway as that the expression was used when the geocentric model was in place. But actually yes, you are right. Thanks for pointing that one out!
Iz-kan-reddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just think about how your parents were setting you up for failure by making you promise to sit still at the dinner table, when in actuality you're moving along at about 18 miles per second, with no choice in the matter.
Cuchullion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps, but I don't 'move my atoms close enough to my wife until our respective magnetic fields repel each other', I touch her.
I don't 'dissolve the powdered coca in the solution until it reaches saturation', I mix my chocolate milk.
I don't 'engage the pistons through the use of an electronic start to engage the drive shaft of my vehicle', I start my car.
Scientifically inaccurate, maybe, but a good deal clearer for all that.
SailedBasilisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"cut and paste" when using digital documents, not paper.
Scrappy_Larue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nuke it in the microwave.
murph54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the (car) window... hang up the phone...
NotJustAnyFig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
Scortana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up a window
blanesheets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up your windows.
Big_J95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down a car window
SoyAudio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRolling up/downโ the windows on a car.
Louiscipher666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whereโs the clicker. Romote controls no longer click.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some do
EasterCrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Lunacy77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't physically roll up car windows anymore
pillsweedallthatshit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
Now it's like "push the button to make the window go down"
the_planes_walker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up. Not as used anymore, but I still hear younger people with smart phones using the phrase.
To those who don't know, "hang up" means to hang the phone on the wall because a cord was attached to it. I can't wait to explain that to my children.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your windows
uhhhhNahFamIdontwann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down a car window
kthompson902 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:20 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ the window down
Hassled005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
OhSheGlows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
deze_moltisanti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the car window up or down.
Derft-Gerken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling down" the window.
Unco_Slam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" up/down the window
SgtAwesome21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll the window downโ
ruedenpresse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(Re)wind didn't lose its core relevance with the decline of VHS or audio tapes, because that word has existed for thousands of years before the invention of tapes. The Proto-Germanic windanฤ meant "to cover or surround with something coiled about" (and comes in fact from some even older Indo-European word). At some point it was borrowed for winding clocks. Then suddenly tapes came around and it was borrowed again for that new meaning. And afterwards it was borrowed anew for jumping through the timeline of digital media products. In the future it may be borrowed for other purposes as well.
This borrowing of words is true for nearly every other example in this thread and their core relevance almost always was something that is several thousand years old.
DravisBixel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shipping. Almost everything we send is done by truck or air these days. Trying to put a package on an actual boat is incredibly difficult, or at least very expensive.
It is also something that gets used for things that aren't physical. My father worked for a software company that had a subscription service. He told me that they had "shipped" their latest product. I pointed out that his product would never go on a ship as it was an internet download. He replied that it would be going on undersea cables...
shwarma_heaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not term, but the hand motion for rolling down the window loses meaning with every years new car models.
Jusdgr8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartments on cars. I've never met anyone who actually kept gloves in there. Ijs...
possessed_flea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandad does, for some reason he always puts on gloves to drive.
SEND_ME_WHATEVER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"free market"
Golantrevize23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God is real
g767 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's tight...
DumbOfGoldens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CC stands for Carbon Copy. When's the last time you've seen carbon paper?
Pizzacrusher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"can you ring me up?" "Can I cash out?"
when paying my restaurant tab.
VladthePimpaler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could care less. It was initially a sarcastic variant of I couldn't care less.... As in 'I could care less, but then I'd be a rock.'
The world has to calm down about this
_bookleman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For anyone curious, these are called โskeuomorphsโ; icons and words that relate to an antiquated or outdated concept. For example:
-The โsaveโ icon is a floppy disc
-Many smartphone cameras make a shutter sound despite their lack of said shutter
-Recorded movies are still referred to as โvideosโ or โfilmsโ despite not using video tapes or film
willgchurch1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging. It's originally from when Allen Turing would have to take all the actual bugs from the enigma because they came in for warmth overnight.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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BBQHappyMeal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, an โalbumโ refers to a collection of songs. Still applies today.
Record still means โsomething that has been recorded.โ
entreprenew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debugging: Back in the day, when computers were as big as few rooms, they had to get rid of actual bugs eating parts of them.
JJHall_ID ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't the eating of parts, but the bugs getting in the way. For example, a moth's wing getting in between the contacts of a relay, preventing the circuit from completing.
seeingeyegod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"presidential"
UberTwerkerFuhrer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feminism
Shredswithwheat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
My car still has manual windows but thats because its a 13 year old base model civic. Even the cheapest of cheap cars these days come with power windows, barring very few exceptions.
cheezzzeburgers9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rewind existed long before the creation of motion film. Like 200 years before.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is called/related to skeuomorphism for the curious
dissemblinganus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just to be a dick, I will point out that "rewind" has been in the language since the 18th century. I don't think it's lost it's core relevance if you think of it in its literal sense.
But I assume you mean in relationship to magnetic tape.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fascist, Nazi, bigot.
FunkyHoratio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure these all still exist, sadly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They definitely exist but I think they are used in incredibly different circumstances now and don't necessarily mean what they used to
Dong_Hung_lo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CC in emails... stands for carbon Copy.
impact4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rule of thumb, which refers to the width of the instrument one can legally beat their wife with.
OfficialPrower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โLiterallyโ used to actually mean Literally, now it Literally doesnโt mean Literally anymore as itโs used in the wrong context most f the time.
GinjaDiem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know this isn't quite the same but related-----the save button is a floppy disk!
time2fly80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โPrayersโ
Kaoslogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nauseous.
Nauseous originally meant that something/someone was causing nausea or disgust.
โWhen the chemicals were mixed, they emitted a nauseous smell.โ
Nauseated originally used to mean physically affected with nausea.
โI ate some bad food and I am now feeling nauseated.โ
Most people use nauseous interchangeably with nauseated. I think the arbiters of ambiguity should be violently pushed into a vat of noxious chemicals. (At least we can agree on that meaning)
whiteypoints ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
noxiated chemicals
danmur15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term, but the QWERTY keyboard layout was created for typewriters so they wouldn't jam as often, by putting popular keys far apart.
mahon881 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"writing". In almost every case of papers, articles, reports, etc, you're just typing on a keyboard
Peter_Dinkedladge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rule of thumb. Used to refer to being aloud to beat your wife with a stick no thicker than your thumb.
TheOffendingHonda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still make the "roll down your windows" gesture.
Then again, power windows are a luxury I don't have.
kwikileaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window(car window).
devildocjames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
octoberblu3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Epic.
When everything is now "epic", epic just means below average and way too short.
IPmang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democrat
VirtualDeliverance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Democrat" is not the same as "democratIC". Just like "classic" music is not the same as "classicAL".
zenzizi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term per se but I very often aim my Apple TV remote in direction of the TV even though it's Bluetooth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Refugee.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a number!
grahampaige ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its a doosy. it actually refers to an old car manufacturer deusenberg.
wild_stryke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down/up your window. Used to have to hand crank a car window. Dial a phone number. We don't use dials anymore, infact that technology is officially dead because phone lines no longer support rotary dials.
notsopersonal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rolling down the window" Very few cars still have manual windows that you physically roll down while most have an automatic button
mycelo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironing. When the iron was actually a bulky block of iron with hot pieces of coal inside.
Fretfulwaffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sometimes tell my middle school students to press Return instead of Enter on their computers. I forget theyโve probably never seen a typewriter in real life.
Cimiclette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows.
mandiexile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The save button is an image of a floppy disc.
Mistersinister1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking or non smoking?
venialjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"HEY VSAUCE, MICHAEL HERE"
Skeuomorphs bruh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rewind is still used! Please see Fetty Wap
Ex: "She walk past, I press rewind To see that ass one more time"
jojoe0521 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down hand gesture. My basic truck still has manual windows, but i assume they are becoming more rare
hzfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn/crank up/down the volume from when volume was an actual dial
ronnie1014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:16 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saved by the bell. Bells were attached to corpses buried, so that if they were mistakenly buried alive the bells would ring above ground to signal they clearly need to be dug up.
zOSguru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with dead ringer.
laurenbanjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When something is โshippedโ via truck or airplane.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hanging up the phone. I had to to explain it to my niece and I felt super old. I'm only gonna be 26 in February. :'(
IceEye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:57 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You see, the cleverness of this post is that nearly every word in the English language can be traced back to something that's no longer relivent. Latin or English.
Therefore nearly everyone has some novel word entomology they know about yet the topic still seems niche and interesting. OP is a tricksy one.
Ham_Kitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the question was less about words that have changed meaning and more about phrases or words that were once literal references to something but are now idiomatic or metaphorical. You used to literally have footage of things that you had filmed, because it was a certain length of film measured in feet. Now those terms have been transferred to similar technologies but to which they don't apply. That's not really the case with "nearly every word in the English language," especially not our core vocabulary.
nickborrelli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upgrade and downgrade... I was driving through some maintains and saw a sign warning truckers of the downgrade ahead. Iโm not sure if thatโs where it came from, but thatโs what came to mind as soon as I saw it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'sorry, I 'dialed' the wrong number'
LordeMemeington ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:52:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Awesome"
SenorDipstick ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:20:21 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
President of the United States
andrei_grim7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edgy
CosmicSeafarer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
[deleted] ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 20:12:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Shadesmctuba ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:00:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out. Go back to your shelter, Carl.
PsymonRED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:16 on December 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly what I expected. @shadesmctuba is a liberal nut job posting against anyone who they think has conservative values. Who labeled me a bible thumper, when I'm Non-religious, because I said I don't like that people think they can get violent or offended because they think they can change their gender, and the world needs to respect it, and create special bathrooms just for them, and be careful with pronouns around them, because you might offend them. I don't care what others do, or call themselves. If I call you "Sir" it's because you look like a guy. If I call you "Miss" it's because you look like I woman. I'm not going to ask you how you identify first. If you want to be called "Sir" then grow a beard, and I'm pretty sure everyone will call you "Sir".
Shadesmctuba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:26 on December 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda coming off as an obsession here, pal. Iโm flattered, but I doubt Iโm your type.
PsymonRED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:28 on December 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Finally, you got something right.
dhusk ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:17 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Republican Ethics'
mandalang ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Health care
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:25:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ashybuttons ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still have video, though.
BananafishGlass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. The video component is kind of the whole thing with video games.
witwiki50 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:31:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Video games
simple1689 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
?
PhotonHunter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:51:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Film it" "Tape it"
sixpackshaker ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:02:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
luciddaymare ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:06:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using the verb "tape" for taking a video
iFoughtTheFoo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:06:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And also โfilmโ
kiwispouse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:07:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dial.
as in "dial 1 800 xxx xxxx now for this great opportunity..."
adognamedgoose ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:08:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say "let me video tape this" when I ecoen something on my phone.
scifiwoman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:09:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dialling" a telephone number. Also, "filming" something when there's no film involved.
ryanosaurusrex1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:12:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the window. "Shipping" to an extent.
LadyJuse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:13:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cut and Paste
35YOstartingagain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:13:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"tape" a favourite show.
Mizzburns ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:14:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah I have it taped '". Still recorded but no more tapes !
RemarkableRyan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:16:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Footage" refers to the length of film shot on a reel using a motion picture film camera. Depending on your film size (8mm, 16mm, 35mm, 70mm/IMAX) and the diameter of your reel, the amount of time you can film varies greatly.
zerbey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:17:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used the word videotape to mean I recorded something on my phone and the person I was talking to actually got angry with me for using it. I mean yes, it's technically wrong but you understood what I said!
DaBoomBoomer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:18:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. No one has a crank anymore.
BlueCrowNomad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself lol
TheRepenstein ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:18:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Constipated_Cactus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:19:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uppercase and Lowercase which originally got their meaning from the metal letters being kept in two cases the upper one and the lower one back in the times of the printing press
zeemode ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:19:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
AlmanzoWilder ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:47:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DASHBOARD. I learned this on Reddit a few weeks back. It was a wooden BOARD mounted in front of a wagon or open carriage to protect the riders from getting hit my mud that was DASHED up by the horses.
GavinLuhezz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:48:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always say Iโm going to โVideo tapeโ something on say, my phone or something.
AlmanzoWilder ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:52:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upper case and lowercase letters. Typesetters stored the capital letters in the higher compartment and the small letters in the more easily reachable bottom compartment.
aCucking2Remember ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:52:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people still say that they've 'taped' something? We used to say that because we were recording video onto film or tape. Now we record onto our digital video recorders, but I feel like some of us old salts still say taped.
AichSmize ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "save" icon, an image of a 3.5 inch floppy disc.
Llamataboottaboot88 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:04:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always "tape" shows on my DVR
Charlie_Wallflower ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:05:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dash" was debris kicked up by a moving horse. A "dashboard" protected the driver.
Also glovebox I guess.
Howdysf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:06:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Film".
I say stuff like "I got it on film!" when I video something with my phone...
Keilbasa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:11:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word "dashboard" comes from a literal board on the front of a sleigh/carriage to block dirt, snow, rocks etc. that would be thrown or "dashed" up by the horses hooves.
Cinemaphreak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:13:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Are you filming me?" said to someone holding up a cell phone.
chanman996 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:15:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window
fookajew ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:16:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always think of "roll up the windows"
Pretty sure that's about completely outdated now
Panhead09 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:16:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my favorites is the word "dial" when used in reference to a phone.
slyby ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:18:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
Cloak5 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using a floppy disk as an icon for saving
electricdynamite ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:23:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
ihavetwoarmsyay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:24:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll your window down.
PM_ME_YOUR__THIGHS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling the windows down.
alpotap ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bug.
When computers were big like gyms. There was a malfunction in one of them. The issue was caused by a cockroach stuck in the circuitry making it short.
Source: lexicon book (1996 issue) on my desk. Edit: the book is called Jargon File.
Fun fact: the first engineer to discover this "bug" was a woman!
AskMeAboutMyStalker ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact, this story is old bullshit!
chickenfoot4less ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can rewind lots of stuff dude
broadstain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling a car window down/up
Rick_Volcan0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:26:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll the window downโ. I realize there are still cars with roll down windows but itโs becoming outdated.
ehholfman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:27:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRollโ down the window
scorpion180 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:27:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:28:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows.
I_Used_to_Be_the_Man ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:29:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling Up/Down the vehicle windows.
I said this to my 5YO the other day, he gave me the WTF look.
Mermaid_Ribcage ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:30:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the car window.
this_person_tho ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:30:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a term but, an old wall and chord phone used as the phone icon on most smartphones
potter5252 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:31:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the windows in cars because they used to be crank operated
big_shmink ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:32:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer bugs were literal bugs that would get into computers back when they were the size of a room.
gregsonfilm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:34:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tape - as in, tape a show, or use a camera to videotape something
JollyManCan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:35:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The glovebox, Iโve never had gloves in that thing.
ILoveToEatLobster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:36:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't said the word rewind in a long time
TDK716 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:36:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Glove compartment" - technically you can still store gloves, but that's where I keep my stash of receipts if someone should ever try and place me at the scene of a crime.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:37:08 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window, my 5 year old asked me why we say it that way.
actually_a_platypus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:39:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Debug"
CannibalCaramel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:39:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
sunburnedtourist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:40:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
dicemaze ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:41:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โVideotape thatโ
honeyee1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:44:23 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the window
throwaway3921218 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:44:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up.
Infinitejester22 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:45:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window (of a car)
jessegus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:52:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up your car window
Bacxaber ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:53:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window."
Cmacreeper ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:54:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To "film" something
Timedoutsob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:54:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Save disk icon.
MonkeyTitty ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:54:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ
MontanaSD ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:56:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taping things you are recording.
topsecretvcr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:57:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tune a radio
mikeCFNI ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:57:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised I haven't seen this yet, but "Roll down the window". Although I certainly don't miss those old cranks.
Joyce_Hatto ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:58:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glove compartment in your car
Mysteryck_386 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:00:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
reliesonblitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are still around at least on the New Chevy sonics
Treemich ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:04:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โTape itโ for record a tv show onto a hard drive.
sneefo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:06:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down a car window. Cars do not have the crank anymore to physically roll down the car window
catdude142 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:06:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn on the light
Turn up the volume
Don't touch that dial
Wire up a breadboard circuit
TheNotoriousJim15 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:07:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll Down your Window
FLJohnnyBlue ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:12:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you doing that rewind has lost it's relevance??
What else do you call going backwards during a show on dvr or dvd or Netflix or streaming? I'd love to hear why fast forward lost its relevance too...
Xeno_phile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In that the "wind" part of it referred specifically to winding of tape. Could just be called "reverse" nowadays.
FLJohnnyBlue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:23:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rewind has always been used to denote going backwards on a recording to an earlier point. Films used to be rewound into a canister to be watched again.
I like your question but don't think rewind has lost it's core relevance.
Reverse isn't any more accurate. I'd say it more denotes watching backwards instead of going backwards for the purpose of watching from an earlier point.
Xeno_phile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But even in your other examples you're still physically "winding" something. When you're running a digital recording back to an earlier point there's nothing there to be "wound."
FLJohnnyBlue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually that's a good point. I still don't agree!
Hash5lingingSlasher ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:16:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
President
claudekennilol ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:28:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Rewind" is still used every day?
Kelbo5000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but it isnโt used in the same way it once was
The_Obrennan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:40:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean? I still tell my kids to rewind their DVD's.
DarkNightRJ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:43:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How has rewind lost it's core relevance?
RogerSterlingsFling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you rewind a scene in a movie today, rarely is it an actual reel or tape being rewound
DarkNightRJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that is true. I was just thinking rewinding a recording and how that is still done a lot, not the physical act of something rewinding.
Locally_Grown_Egg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:43:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Brush your teeth"
BlueBusDrifter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:46:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The truth.
2spookyskeletons ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:46:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sunrise and sunset.
R00TT00R ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:49:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pause :3
chek4me ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:53:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down (or up) the window
Durka107 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:00:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is rewind lost? Most people have DVRs or NETFLIX
dixadik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do not literally rewind the data carrying medium ( magnetic tape) when you 'rewind' these days.
ToastedFireBomb ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:12:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhhh but we still rewind things, don't we? Just because it's not tape doesn't mean we can't rewind.
Doinkmckenzie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:17:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I catch myself asking the wife where the clicker is often.
Fleenix ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:24:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DJ is short for disk jockey. Most DJs do not use discs anymore. No, the disc-like wheels on some DJ equipment are called "jogs."
nestomanifesto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Call it a "jogg jocky"...done and patent pending
Fleenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then vocals between "tracks" would be "jogg jockey jabber"
teacozyheadedwarrior ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:24:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indicate even though no one uses them.
Zenblend ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:25:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But no one says "rewind that" anymore; they say "go back."
autoposting_system ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:26:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Goodbye"
I don't know about you, but I'm not saying "God be with you" when I'm leaving the party.
UsagiDreams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aye, true, but I'm sure it was also always used in farewells before it was abbreviated.
Agent_Hank_Schrader ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Head. As in "Head in that direction" or "Head back home".
Back when horses were the main mode of transportation, you would place the horses head in the direction you want to go.
javoss88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could also refer to nautical heading
Lined_em_up ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Madden. I think its kind of funny that the biggest sport in the US is football. But, everyone refers to the video game for it as Madden. I'm sure plenty of kids have asked there parents if they can go to a real life Madden game having no idea that Madden refers to a person.
compwiz1202 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:44:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typewriters used to be DVORAK because it was faster, but eventually they started to jam, so they went to QWERTY to purposely slow typists down. They need to bring DVORAK back now that we have electronic typewriters and computers now.
flarmigan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:46:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy
whosahypocrit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:04:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humanity.
G3netic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:04:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democracy
NEOLittle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:08:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
President
TheSchlaf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:09:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window.
azerty1976 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:10:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
turn on (the TV)
hang up
lil_suprises ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:13:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
kates719 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:13:42 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you tape that show for me? Can you roll down the window? Donโt hang up on me! Did you dial the wrong number?
katquinn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:13:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Falcon176 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:13:48 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up/down
liza10155 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:02 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up or rolling down the windows.
Kack_Jelly ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window
whitejosh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:15:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll up" for car windows
iwouldhavesaidhello ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:16:37 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On line. Used to mean up and running. Now itโs all about the internets. :)
Zarana85 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:16:55 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll" up the windows in the car
TheBlindSpaniard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:17:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Computer bugs. Early computers used breaker points, and on occasion an insect or spider would get caught between the points and block the current causing a malfunction.
ChakramAmber ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:17:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your window.
plzdontmakemepick ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:17:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll downโ the window. You used to have to physically roll the window down
Billy1138 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:48:17 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of cars still have that. Same with mirrors.
MrFluxed ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:17:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down a window. No more hand cranks.
TatumV ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:18:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
bom2792 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:18:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowโ
Disco_Drew ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:18:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone. Roll down the window.
RJMav24 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:19:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
k-ooks ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:19:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
gwalistair ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:21:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
nochilljack ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:21:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows down
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Music
fun51ze ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window" even though almost every car has automatic windows. Sorry if this has been said. Huge thread
askburlefot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could be argued that there are still rollers involved in the mechanism, though.
itrelnet ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up a window.
rathemighty ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll down the window"
KeatonMacLeod ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:22:57 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the windows
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:23:10 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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jacksawild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you think the glass goes? The electric motor still rolls the window down.
AKFlyingFish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:23:16 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down or up
Kiam79 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:23:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind up the window. My 6 year old asked me the other day why I said that when I wanted her to close the window in the car.
"It makes no sense Mummy!". She was right,
yuriydee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:23:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ in a car. We just click a button now.
roscoe_lo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:23:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" down the window
porsche76e ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:34:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Dial tone'
Herb Cain famously observed, "OM...the dial tone of the universe..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Caen
WaltGraceLives ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:43:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โI need to get gasโ even though we only drive flying saucers and speeders that are electric now..oh wait I went to far back in Time..I thought it was the year 2120
OMG__Ponies ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:48:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are no longer "pictures" at best it's an digital image.
NWarsenal ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:53:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Integrity, honesty, common sense.
AngryManRichard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:02:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bug in program used to mean a literal bug that had died in a computer and damaged a relay.
PM-ME-YOUR-FAKETITS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:07:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I beg your pardon always baffles me
illistdj ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:30:45 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Male and female.
jaijaikali ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So fucking edgy.
Male and female have most certainly not lost their core relevance. Unless, ya know, you've never gone to or plan to go to a doctor.
IronicJeremyIrons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:51 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
edgy
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:36:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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swordmagic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thatโs a bunch of bullshit that people think is real. Like fortification under consent of the king
Malthus0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is a very old anglo saxon word. Just like many other vulgar English words. Arse, fuck etc.
From the OED
Christopher213360 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:52:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down the window
Still kinda used today but cars back then you literally had to roll the window down
RndmRanger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:53:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll the windows down"
EvasiveJoker425 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:01:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down your window in your car.
pyanes93 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:09:19 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up or down a window
Jedouard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:10:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bite my thumb at you.
ReadItWithSarcasm ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:11:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling down your window
SkywayTraffic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:11:21 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yo man when's the new record coming out?"
Never because it's not 1925.
TheMighty200 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:19:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
did it ever occur to you that the term record is older than vinyl?
SkywayTraffic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
recยทord
noun
noun: record; plural noun: records
a thin plastic disk carrying recorded sound, especially music, in grooves on each surface, for reproduction by a record player.
synonyms: album, vinyl; a piece or collection of music reproduced on a phonographic record or on another medium, such as compact disc. "my favorite record"
TheMighty200 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:27:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The word record is a lot older than plastic.
Kinslayer2040 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
TheMighty200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. A record is a record wheather its in scilicon or plastic.
fart_shaped_box ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:16:50 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, since I didn't Ctrl-F the obvious,
Fast forward
MyDogIsALegendToo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:21:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tune in
MrBubbleCounter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:30:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm Sorry."
kaiserwunderbar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:57:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weekend used to actually means stores were closed on Sundayโs
Rom2814 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:57:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dial a phone number.
BonJonn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:57:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
White Out
ribbonofsunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's brand name!
jimmymystic ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:58:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know i'm late and this will be buried, but anytime someone tells me to "click" something on my phone, I can't help but think about how it should be referred to as "touch".
lostmindz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:02:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cc:
Means carbon copy. When you wanted a copy of the letter you were typing on a typewriter. You would place a sheet of carbon paper and another blank piece of paper underneath the top sheet of paper, like a little sandwich, and insert that in the typewriter. When you typed the strike of the keys was strong enough for the carbon to create an impression of the original on the 2nd sheet of paper.
Later they came up with multi-part carbonless forms. It was an exciting time, lmao.
Londonrat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:14:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bee in your bonnet
Plutonium_man ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:15:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling your windows up in a car. Unless you have an old car, in which case, sorry :(
papiforyou ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:15:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll your window down"
ThatFunkyWhiteBoy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:16:09 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the windows down"
y_o_y_o ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:16:53 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll down the windowsโ always comes to mind in a car.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:17:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
e3crazyb ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:17:44 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the windows. Referring to when you had to physically roll them down yourself instead of simply pressing a button as most modern cars have nowadays.
peepcrusher ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:17:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"roll" up the window, even though you dont have to roll it up anymore
edit: a word
Nigcloptimus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:18:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll" the window down.
puppypoet ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:18:42 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window. I don't think cars come with window rollers anymore.
ItsAbaddonNotAbaddon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:18:59 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Asking someone to โrollโ the car window down.
Randallisms ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:19:01 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window..
UnarmedWarWolf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:19:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll the window down" the invention of electronic windows has made manual windows obsolete.
tamblynmitchell ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:19:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up/down the windows. Originated with hand crank windows in cars but now we just have buttons.
powdered_toast_man_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:19:32 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Food stamps
2_cents ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:21:31 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window up.
abennett310 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:22:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone.
dodbrew ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:23:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hang up the phone". I believe this comes from back in the day when many phones were wall mounted, and you would literally hang up the phone to end the conversation.
Heathens_Cry ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:24:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang up the phone
radicalriver ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:25:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rolling up the windows
brazthemad ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:26:11 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window - most car windows are automatic now.
ILaughAtFunnyShit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:26:27 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the windows up/down.
Now you just press a button.
Talrand01 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:26:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase "roll down your window is still widely used, even though the great majority of current automobiles (I said majority, country boys) have electric operation of windows instead of the roller.
daydreamher ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:26:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll the window down in the car.
ThisDeebosBike ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:27:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window
improbablyonthepot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:27:51 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
12k comments, but I'll throw "tackle" out there- "We need to tackle this problem."
pixi3bitcg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:29:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โRoll up the windowโ. Except for some trucks, just about all cars have electric windows as opposed to the handles you had to roll windows up with.
Mister-Pajamas ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Roll your window down". Do people still say this?
tallFooks ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up that window.
thesolidsnake ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:34 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
Euthyphroswager ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:31:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the window.
foxrider300 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:46:52 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you sneeze and someone says "bless you"
thereal_mc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:48:18 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about "nail him to the wall" or "fall on the sword". Now that's p. old...
lustihead ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:50:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Promiscuous. It hasnโt exactly lost its original meaning (mixed up, out of order), but it has certainly evolved over time.
randum_guy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:41:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Presidential
Revolt189 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:18:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I may be late to the party, but I still refer to certain countries by slightly different names.
For instance: I say โtheโ Ukraine instead of Ukraine.
rivermandan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:17:29 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bumdarts
oneamungus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:26:55 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dialing a phone number.
pancakelife ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:08:37 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awful.
Originally had the same meaning as awesome or just awe inspiring. To be filled with awe was awful.
shortadamlewis ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:51:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are so many of these...
Howdy = shortened how do you do Eating Breakfast= break your fast EA= shortened go #%@ yourself
second_to_fun ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:11:38 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's it like living in the Beetle Bailey universe?
CloudsOverOrion ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 15:43:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Commonly heard on fail army - I got that on video!
No, you got that on memory card.
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:57:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A video refers to any moving visual image, whether it's on tape or stored on digital media. If they say "I got that on tape!" that would be inaccurate and dated, but "I got that on video!" is completely accurate and not dated in any way.
phillip_u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:36 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could see how video tape would be considered outdated as tape is rarely used anymore, but the word video is from the Latin videre "to see" and audio which is from the Latin audire "to hear" and seems to be an ageless term for any form of moving pictures with sound.
Gsgshap ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:48:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure no one says "I got that on memory card!"
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:07 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Album
theDoctorAteMyBaby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
?
thenamesbootsy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of album?
acdigital ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:05 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anal bum Cover
Obleeoh_Yo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:39 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Democratic party
pickled_sandwich ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind down the window.
j3ffro15 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
louierosner ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up the window
Sardalucky ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling the TV remote the clicker. Rolling down the care windows. (including using the hand crank sign language to ask someone to roll down their window)
Alex_Pike ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:41 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll down the car windows.
maburnham2 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:56 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
roll up your window
BrokenEye3 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No suitable alternative
robot_dan ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:33 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll up your window.
Hang up the phone.
Upper case and lower case letters.
I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts.
Filming an event.
Sounding like a broken record.
Ildigrub ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:54 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A computer bug used to literally mean there was an insect on your computer room
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck= Fornication Under the Conscent od the King
You know, when the king could fuck girls right before the got married!!
atheros ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:06 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "web" or "website". Originally web sites had an obligatory links section. There you found hyperlinks to other somewhat related websites. This was how you found information- by bouncing from site to site. The links of sites conceptually formed a large "web". When you were done for the day you would bookmark your place and disconnect.
But the web stopped existing over a decade ago. Although links still exist, we now use a hub and spoke system. We start on Google or Reddit or Facebook, branch out one or maybe two links, and then come back. But "hub-and-spoke site" doesn't have a good ring to it so we still call them websites.
(This is not to be confused with the 'net' or 'network'. That is hardware and protocol software only. The net still exists.)
superblobby ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rule of thumb, it was originally used as a reference point to how big your stick of choice should be when beating your wife.
BradyV20 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pre-heating the oven. You heat the oven before you heat the oven
StillUseLandlines ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Love.
Love is wickedly overused. I LOVED that, I LOVE what you did there. No, love is some deep shit and that is not how you feel about a purse you just saw.
bambamtx ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:14 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feminism, Liberal, Freedom, Sanity.
theSpire ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:59 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You obviously don't know any DJs or go to shows that feature DJs... REWIND!!!!
zappy99299 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My local djs actually played vinyl but the station got sold so there goes that....
theSpire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:00 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typically not a "station" DJ thing. I'm talking more like edm, hiphop DJs. It is still very prominent in the digital age of DJing.
geekworking ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:31 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Laptop "Charger". The first generation portable computers did have an external box that had two power outputs; one to power the computer and one that would monitor and charge the battery. These were chargers. By around 1993 all of the battery charging circuitry was moved inside of the computers and the batteries (smart batteries). Current "chargers" do not contain any charging circuitry. They are AC adapters that only convert the high voltage AC from the wall into a single fixed DC voltage. The circuitry inside of the computer takes care of all of the aspects of charging.
Even the term "Laptop" is not correct in most cases. Portable computers went from luggable (desktop case with a handle and small CRT), to laptop (took up your entire lap from your gut to your knees), to notebook (roughly the size of a 8.5" x 11" paper notebook). The giant gaming notebooks could be considered "laptops", but the vast majority of portable computers are notebooks.
DeebsTundra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:04:33 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really splitting hairs on the laptop statement. It still sits on top of one's lap.
mrglass8 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:49 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I'd say rewind is more relevant in the age of streaming than it was 10+ years ago when more was distributed by disc media
ScottyDntKnow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:17:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't get it do you, it's the term for turning back cassette and tapes to early times. Literally was a mechanical operation that doesn't occur anymore
mrglass8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:35 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Wow, it never occurred to me back in the day that it was called rewind for that reason
leeps011 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:20 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I promise
thwarted_again ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:06 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bitch- It used to mean a female dog- Now it's a slur and I can't even call a female dog a female dog without the wife smacking me upside the head :/ ...but I'm now politically correct which is nice...
ARRRcade ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:08 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Facts.
ilivedownyourroad ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:02 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Suck a duck!"
We no longer suck ducks so it's no longer relevant.
Edit: Apparently in certain American states duck sucking still occurs though it's no longer legal.. so grey area.
gaz_kenz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:07 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FUCK SCHOOL
reverseflash94 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:54 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your gay
CedTruz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:10 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one confused as to how rewind has lost its relevance? Donโt DJs still wind the record in reverse to go back to the beginning when they play a really hot track?
nynokindia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:50 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rewinding was a process that took like 5-10 minutes to get a VHS or cassette tape back to the beginning so that it could be played again. pressing a repeat track button is not rewinding, nor is scratching vinyl.
CedTruz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:30 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you have never heard a proper rewind.
nynokindia ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:18:38 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not listening to 50 minutes of music I dont like to figure out what you mean, so I'm going to assume that it was backmasked like most skilled DJs are able to do.
DontOpenTilXmas ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:05 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one uses rewind.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:43:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turn up the volume
Psych0matt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:18:09 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most stereos still have a dial you turn
yesanything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:46 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sorry I don't get this one.
OhHiThisIsMyName ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:43:34 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Save it to disk.
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:06:00 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Totally accurate unless you have an SSD, and hard disks are still more common than SSDs in modern computers.
Area51Resident ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:28 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but SSD stands for Sold-State Disk so in one sense it is correct, on the other hand it is a rectangle so why is it a '... Disk'
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:12 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't stand for solid state disk. It stands for solid state drive. It's not a disk.
EntroperZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:29 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. Hard disks are abbreviated HDD, Hard Disk Drive, so it's in their name, too.
yesanything ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:31:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, I don't get this on at all!
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 14:53:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:22 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
speak for yourself m8
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:26 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheYearOfThe_Rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:13 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The only people who use that are Jews themselves.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:55:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:01 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Judaism is an ethno-religion, which means that "Jewish atheist" is not an oxymoron.
RudeTurnip ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:39 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goodbye - "God be with ye (thee)"
There is no God.
GyroPyro227 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:32 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Patching" and "Debugging". Patching originally refers to covering up the holes in punch cards for old-school computers. Debugging refers to cleaning out bugs that have started living in the holes in punch cards for old-school computers.
possessed_flea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:24 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'patching' this predates punch cards by quite a few decades, the term 'patching' comes from the 1940s' and the computer known as ENIAC. you would setup your computation using patch leads ( in a similar way to how old telephone exchanges worked to 'patch' calls through. )
and AFAIK the terms 'bug' and 'debug' predate grace hopper ( aka the mother of compilers. ), which again, predates punch cards by quite a few decades.
AskMeAboutMyStalker ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:04:47 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Citation? Pretty old programmer here & that sounds like bullshit
GyroPyro227 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:18:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patching: http://imgur.com/o9eFrIs Debugging: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debugging
AskMeAboutMyStalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:04 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
from the very link you sent me:
"However, the term "bug", in the sense of "technical error", dates back at least to 1878 and Thomas Edison (see software bug for a full discussion). Similarly, the term "debugging" seems to have been used as a term in aeronautics before entering the world of computers. Indeed, in an interview Grace Hopper remarked that she was not coining the term[citation needed]. The moth fit the already existing terminology, so it was saved. "
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:11 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Bluefalcon325 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:15 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
first I thought it was satire, then I thought you were serious.. Now I have to go check your comment history to tell.
jaycaz80 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:49 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โFactsโ and โRealityโ
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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jaijaikali ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:33:25 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, they just lost their balls.
paperscribbel ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:44 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unroll the window
Billy1138 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:47:43 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...... No one says that... We say "roll down"
paperscribbel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:30 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say that? So I guess a few people say it.
ChickerWings ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:27 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fornicate Under Consent of the King.
*meaning monarch sanctioned rape basically.
Ship High In Transit
*to avoid the methane fumes from manure
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:04 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What
ChickerWings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:36 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the first letter of each word. Those acronyms are used pretty frequently
Letty_Whiterock ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 16:26:40 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who still says rewind? No one still says rewind. You don't have to rewind anything anymore so the term is no longer said! It's not a thing anymore!
K4453N ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:44:53 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?
You never need to go back 15 seconds? Or, you think no one in the world ever does any more? What do you call the two left-facing arrows you press to skip backward when you see them on every single remote youโve ever had in your life?
Letty_Whiterock ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:14:52 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I reverse the film.
Unwright ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:24:58 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, so rewinding is outdated but you still use film?
/boggle
Letty_Whiterock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:48 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I said that no one actually says rewind anymore. It has nothing to do with whether the term is outdated. Just that no one actually uses it.
Unwright ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:13 on December 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, then you're just factually wrong.
kungfujohnjon1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:36:35 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to Google Trends, the word "rewind" has increased in popularity over the last 13 years even as VHS has died as a medium. (For anyone wondering, the peaks in 2008 are from the theatrical and home video releases of the movie "Be Kind Rewind".)
Im_Lucifer_Not_Evil ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:48:03 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it is. What do you call it when you are watching something and you want to go back a couple minutes because you missed what happened? I donโt know about you, but I say โHey, rewind that bit. I missed it.โ
Rappin_for_Jegus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:09:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you call it when you move backwards through a program then?
Letty_Whiterock ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:14:24 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reverse it?
theDoctorAteMyBaby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:40:18 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. Well most still say rewind. Therefore your OP is wrong
TriadHero117 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:47 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do.
Cicnapuz ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:34:58 on December 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The earth is flat!"